(Well of course you can because their names are in the title, but indulge us by playing along!)

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Sources/Useful Links

Fanny Cradock

• Fear of Fanny - BBC 2006
• Keep Calm and Fanny On! By Kevin Geddes
• British Food History Podcast Episode
• Fanny Cradock with Kevin Geddes - The British Food History Podcast
• Gwen Troake and Fanny Cradock (1976)
• Fanny Cradock Cooks for Christmas (1975) | BBC

Ann Cook

• Professed Cookery by Ann Cook
• A Cook’s Perspective byClarissa F. Dillon & Deborah J. Peterson
• The Art of Cookery Made Plain & Easy by Hannah Glasse
• Book review of A. Cook’s Perspective by Neil on British Food: a History
• Neil’s disastrous attempt at cooking Hannah Glasse’s Christmas Pie on Neil Cooks Grigson
• Before Mrs Beeton: Elizabeth Raffald, England’s Most Influential Housekeeper by Neil Buttery
• Ivan Day’s 22-stone Yorkshire Christmas Pye

Giacomo Castelvetro

• The Fruit, Herbs & Vegetables of Italy by Giacomo Castelvetro (1614)
• Profitable insructions [sic] for the manuring, sowing, and planting of kitchin gardens Very profitable for the common wealth and greatly for the helpe and comfort of poore people. Gathered by Richard Gardiner of Shrewsberie. (1603)

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Dr Neil Buttery also hosts the British Food History Podcast and is the author of A Dark History of Sugar, Before Mrs Beeton: Elizabeth Raffald Britain’s Most Influential Housekeeper as well as Knead to Know: A History of Baking and The Philosophy of Pudding with another book in progress. You can find him on Instagram and Bluesky

Dr Allie Pino produces and hosts the Curious Appetite Podcast and the Fear Feasts Podcast with Vanessa Baca. She is also the co-author of A Gothic Cookbook and is currently working on a new book. You can find her on Instagram and Bluesky

Sam opens with carbonado, diving into its rich history and cultural associations. Allie follows with carrots, exploring their meanings, myths, and surprising journeys through food history. Neil brings things to a close with cabinet pudding, a comforting and curious dish that rounds the conversation off rather nicely.

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Sources/Useful Links

Carbonado

1. Modern Cookery for Private Families - Eliza Acton (1845)
2. Cooking and Dining in Tudor and Early Stuart England by Peter Brears (2015)
3. Mots de table, mots de bouche: dictionnaire étymologique et historique du vocabulaire classique de la cuisine et de la gastronomie by Claudine Brécourt-Villars (1996)
4. Kettner’s Book of the Table - E. S. Dallas (1877)
5. Gargantua And His Son Pantagruel by Rabelais (1534)

Carrot

1. Vegetable Gardening the Colonial Williamsburg Way: 18th-Century Methods for Today’s Organic Gardeners - Wesley Greene (2012)
2. Do carrots help you see in the dark? - Dr Emma Davies BBC Science Focus Magazine (2026)
3. Step by Step. London: Thornton Butterworth - Churchill, W. S. (1939)
4. Originally published as a collection of Churchill’s newspaper articles and speeches from the late 1930s, including his commentary on Nazi Germany and the use of reward and punishment, encapsulated in his metaphor of “the carrot and the stick.”
5. Good Things - Jane Grigson (2006)
6. The Art of Cookery Made Plain and Easy - Hannah Glasse (1747) Recipe: To Make a Carrot Pudding
7. An Anonymous Andalusian Cookbook of the 13th Century Translated by Charles Perry et al Recipe: Carrot Paste

Cabinet pudding

1. Neil’s Cabinet pudding recipe
2. The Philosophy of Puddings by Neil Buttery (2024)
3. The Pudding Book by Helen Thomas (1980)
4. Pride and Pudding by Regula Ysewijn (2015)
5. Eleanor Fettiplace’s Receipt Book by Hilary Spurling - my Lord Devonshire’s Pudding (1986)
6. Neil’s Spotted Dick recipe from his blog
7. Neil’s How to Steam a Pudding post on his blog
8. Neil on the BBC Travel Show talking about the history of puddings and sugar (UK only)

Things mentioned in this episode

Sam Bilton wins at the Fortum & Mason Awards

Museum of Royal Worcester project wins at the British Library Food Season Awards

Sam’s black pudding episode on Comfortably Hungry

Neil is appearing at the Chalke Festival on 27 June

Follow Serve it Forth History Festival 18 October on Instagram @serveitforthfest

Links & Further Reading

Boiling

Acton, E. (1845). Modern Cookery For Private Families. Quadrille.

Beeton, I. (1861). The Book of Household Management. Lightning Source.

Davidson, A. (1999). The Oxford Companion to Food. Oxford University Press.

Grigson, J. (1992). English Food (Third Edit). Penguin.

McGee, H. (1984). On Food and Cooking: The Science and Lore of the Kitchen (1st ed.). Allen and Unwin.

Smith, D. (1998). Delia’s How to Cook Book 1. BBC Books.

Bayleaf:

Culpeper’s Herbal (I’ll find a link late)

What Is a Bay Leaf, Exactly? – Atlas Obscura https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/what-is-a-bay-leaf

Pliny Natural History iv: Books 12-16 https://archive.org/details/L370PlinyNaturalHistoryIV1216/page/n391/mode/2up?q=laurel

Ovid Metamorphosis https://www.gutenberg.org/files/21765/21765-h/21765-h.htm

Bloody Mary:

Why Is There an Entire Fried Chicken on My Bloody Mary?: An exploration of outrageous garnishes and the drink’s over-the-top evolution. The Spruce Eats

The Tomato in America by Andrew F. Smith (1994): A rich history of the tomato- from suspicion to Bloody Mary staple. Essential reading for any cocktail historian.

James Bond’s Other Drink: Long before Vesper, Bond was sipping Bloody Marys- shaken, not stirred, of course. Bormioli Luigi

Bloody Mina Gothtail: A Gothic twist on the classic- dark, dramatic, and dangerously drinkable. Instagram Recipe

Last episode the theme was Meat, and as usual, the three of us nattered away for a bit too long and some of our conversation was edited out for time. One of these things was the part of Neil’s section on brains and the BSE crisis.

We’re busy behind the scenes getting the listener's choice episode ready for you, but hopefully this little snackette will keep you going.

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Dr Neil Buttery also hosts the British Food History Podcast and is the author of A Dark History of Sugar, Before Mrs Beeton: Elizabeth Raffald Britain’s Most Influential Housekeeper as well as Knead to Know: A History of Baking and The Philosophy of Pudding. You can find him on Instagram and Bluesky

Dr Allie Pino hosts the Fear Feasts Podcast with Vanessa Baca and is the co-author of A Gothic Cookbook. You can find her on Instagram and Bluesky

Don’t forget the next episode is the Listeners’ Choice. Please send your suggestions (with a reason why you’ve chosen it) to aisofrapplepod@gmail.com. Your deadline is 21st May!

Links & Further Reading

• Did Sam win the awards for Best Audio at the Fortnum & Mason Awards?
• Allie will be taking part in the online conference an ONLINE conference on 23rd and 24th August 2025 marking the 100th anniversary of MR James A Warning to the Curious and Other Ghost Stories talking about food and the supernatural: https://romancingthegothic.com/2025/01/06/cfp-for-a-warning-to-the-curious-ghostly-supernatural-and-weird-tales/ 
• Follow Serve it Forth history festival on Instagram @serveitforthfest
• The Leeds Symposium of Food History and Traditions facebook page

Beef Wellington

• Manuale de cuoco e del pasticciere III by Vincenzo Agnoletti (1834) (Italian)
• Paddington Takes The Test by Michael Bond (1999)
• Julia Child cooks beef wellington on The French Chef
• Betty Crocker’s Hostess Cookbook (1967)
• Irish Traditional Food by Theodora Fitzgibbon (1984)
• Fashionable food: seven decades of food fads by Sylvia Lovegren, (1995)
• The French Menu Cookbook by Richard Olney (1970)
• You can read more about the Waterloo banquets on the Apsley House and Wellington Arch blog here and here.
• Lines of Wellington trailer
• Read about how beef wellington was used as a murder weapon in Australia.

Brains

• English Food (Third Edition) by Jane Grigson (1992
• The Complete Nose to Tail: A Kind of British Cooking by Fergus Henderson (2012)
• Jane Grigson’s Brains in Black Butter recipe on Neil Cooks Grigson
• Good Food by Ambrose Heath (1932; contains brain and tongue pudding recipe)
• Neil’s blog post about cooking snipe with recipe

Bovril

• Vril: The Coming Race by Edward Bulwer-Lytton (1871)
• Shackleton Bovril advert: http://www.tommyspackfillers.com/gallery/medpopup.php?imageNo=1085
• How the British empire spells Bovril: https://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O828155/how-the-british-empire-spells-print-dolman-ernest/
• My Bones and My Flute by Edgar Mittelholzer (1955)

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Dr Neil Buttery also hosts the British Food History Podcast and is the author of A Dark History of Sugar, Before Mrs Beeton: Elizabeth Raffald Britain’s Most Influential Housekeeper as well as Knead to Know: A History of Baking and The Philosophy of Pudding. You can find him on Instagram and Bluesky

Dr Allie Pino hosts the Fear Feasts Podcast with Vanessa Baca and is the co-author of A Gothic Cookbook. You can find her on Instagram and Bluesky

Last episode had the blue theme, and Neil chose to look at blue cheese, in particular Stichelton, which is made on the beautiful Welbeck Estate in rural Nottinghamshire. Neil spoke to Joe Schneider, who makes this delicious, unique farmhouse cheese. Neil cut the interview down to 6 minutes or so, but here it is in full.

They talk about how one gets into farmhouse cheesemaking, the importance of consistency and the best places to buy Stichelton as well as many other things.

A big thank you to Thomas Ntinas for his sound engineering support.

Things mentioned in today’s episode:

Stichelton website

The Welbeck Estate

Welbeck Farm Shop

Neal’s Yard Dairy

Chorlton Cheesemongers

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Dr Neil Buttery also hosts the British Food History Podcast and is the author of A Dark History of Sugar, Before Mrs Beeton: Elizabeth Raffald Britain’s Most Influential Housekeeper as well as Knead to Know: A History of Baking and The Philosophy of Pudding. You can find him on Instagram and Bluesky

Dr Allie Pino hosts the Fear Feasts Podcast with Vanessa Baca and is the co-author of A Gothic Cookbook. You can find her on Instagram and Bluesky

Useful Links and Further Reading:

Blue Cheese

• Stichelton Dairy
• Neal’s Yard Dairy
• Eau de Stilton
• Harold McGee, On Food & Cooking (1984)
• Val Cheke, The Story of Cheese-Making in Britain (1959)

Blue Corn

• Flour: A Comprehensive Guide by Christine McFadden, 2018
• Hopi Culture - https://itcaonline.com/member-tribes/hopi-tribe/
• The Corn Maiden in Hopi Tradition: https://blog.kachinahouse.com/the-corn-maiden-unveiling-the-harvest-and-fertility-symbolism-among-the-hopi/

Borage

• ‘Borage – A Star Of Nature’ on Stories From The Museum Floor , 25 August 2017
• Robert Tyas, The sentiment of flowers; or, Language of flora (1841)
• John Gerard, The Herbal, or a Generall historie of plantes (1636)
• Pliny, Natural Histories VII
• Anon, A Proper New Booke of Cookery (1575)

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Dr Neil Buttery also hosts the British Food History Podcast and is the author of A Dark History of Sugar, Before Mrs Beeton: Elizabeth Raffald Britain’s Most Influential Housekeeper as well as Knead to Know: A History of Baking and The Philosophy of Pudding. You can find him on Instagram and Bluesky

Dr Allie Pino hosts the Fear Feasts Podcast with Vanessa Baca and is the co-author of A Gothic Cookbook. You can find her on Instagram and Bluesky

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-delicious-legacy/id1494707127

Watch Thom smoke pork and mutton over a charcoal fire like an ancient Greek:

https://youtu.be/u7JN1pl_JVs?si=k-j6dZGYVne_0zUa

The Odyssey by Homer:

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1727/1727-h/1727-h.htm

Useful Links

• Ciudad de México: Recipes and Stories from the Heart of Mexico City by Edson Diaz Fuentes (2021)
• Edson and Natalie Feary have three restaurants in London- find out more here: https://www.santoremedio.co.uk/ 

Useful Links

Neil’s recipes:

• https://britishfoodhistory.com/2012/02/21/pancake-day/
• https://britishfoodhistory.com/2020/12/03/to-make-crumpets/
• https://britishfoodhistory.com/2024/10/29/singin-hinnies/
• https://neilcooksgrigson.com/2015/07/13/411-brains-with-curry-and-grape-sauce/
• Delicious Legacy Podcast- A Short History of Barbecue
• Motherland Pig Episode: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p07rsphm
• The Cook, the Thief, His Wife & Her Lover - Peter Greenaway (1989)
• Goodfellas BBQ Scene
• Saint Lawrence Patron Saint of Cooks
• First Catch Your Gingerbread - Sam Bilton (2020) Perkins recipe
• Mark Meltonville - https://www.meltonville.uk/
• The Culinary Triangle Claude Lévi-Strauss (1966)
• Sumario de la historia general de las indias - Gonzalo Fernández de Oviedo y Valdés (1526)
• A New Voyage Round the World - William Dampier(1697)
• Dictionary of the English Language - Samuel Johnson (1755)

Suggested Reading

• French cookery: comprising L'art de la cuisine francaise, Le patissier royal, Le cuisinier parisien - Marie Antoine Carême (1836 edition)
• Kettner’s Book of Table - E. S. Dallas (1877)
• English Bread and Yeast Cookery - Elizabeth David (1977)
• A Book of Bakestone Cookery - Bobby Freeman (1984)
• The Scots Kitchen: It’s Lore and Recipes - F Marian McNeill (1929)
• Cooked - Michael Pollan (2013)
• The Saucier’s Apprentice - Raymond Sokolov (1976)
• Le cuisinier françois - François Pierre de la Varenne (1651)
• Food & Cooking in Sixteenth-Century Britain: History and Recipes - Peter Brears (1985) 

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Dr Neil Buttery also hosts the British Food History Podcast and is the author of A Dark History of Sugar, Before Mrs Beeton: Elizabeth Raffald Britain’s Most Influential Housekeeperas well as Knead to Know: A History of Baking and The Philosophy of Pudding. You can find him on Instagram and Bluesky

Dr Allie Pino hosts the Fear Feasts Podcast with Vanessa Baca and is the co-author of A Gothic Cookbook. You can find her on Instagram and Bluesky

In this episode:

• Discover how bagels earned a place in Good Housekeeping's 2024 best street party food list
• Learn about bagels' links to Queen Elizabeth’s Silver Jubilee and William and Kate's visit to Brick Lane's famous Beigel Bake
• Explore inventive modern bagel fillings, from peanut butter and strawberries to chicken katsu
• Hear from Debs Rinkoff of the iconic Rinkoff Bakery, who reveals their all-time best-selling bagel fillings - salmon and cream cheese, and salt beef with gherkins and mustard - and shares her thoughts on bagels' growing popularity

Please note: This episode was recorded on location at Rinkoff Bakery, so the audio may be less polished than usual, but the insights (and bagel talk) are well worth it.

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Enjoy this tasty bonus bite of food history!

Useful links, references and things mentioned in the episode:

Baked Beans

Beans: A History by Ken Albala (2007)

The Frugal Housewife by Lydia Maria Child (1829)

The Boston Cooking-School Cookbook by Fannie Merrit Farmer (1896) - (this is a link to the 1910 version)

The Truth about Baked Beans by Megan Muckenhoupt  (2015)

America’s Founding Food: The Story of New England Cooking by Keith Stavely & Kathleen Fitzgerald (2004)

A shilling cookery for the people : embracing an entirely new system of plain cookery and domestic economy by Alexis Soyer (1854)

Britain’s obsession with baked beans

What’s For Tea, Mum? Beanz Meanz The Who!

Martha Stewart’s Boston Baked Beans

Bath Buns

English Bread & Yeast Cookery by Elizabeth David (1977)

English Food by Jane Grigson (3rd edition, 1992)

The Taste of Britain by Laura Mason and Catherine Brown (1999)

Neil’s recipe for seed cake

Neil’s recipe for wigs

Cobb’s Bath Buns recipe on Neil Cooks Grigson

The Bath Bun Teashoppe

Bagels

https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/uk/food/recipes/g43212153/street-party-food-ideas-recipes/

https://www.vice.com/en/article/these-black-bagels-are-the-anti-rainbow-bagel/

The Bagel: The Surprising History of a Modest Bread by Maria Balinska 

https://fairmountbagel.com/bagels-in-space/

Prince William and Kate Make Bagels in East London: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhhDQeLWMfY 

https://www.hackneycitizen.co.uk/2014/06/17/curious-history-bagel/ 

https://www.thejc.com/lets-eat/bagels-can-change-your-perspective-on-history-by77e9sr

https://www.vice.com/en/article/these-black-bagels-are-the-anti-rainbow-bagel/

https://www.eastlondonlines.co.uk/2024/03/meet-the-trader-a-jewish-bakery-founded-by-a-ukranian-refugee-serving-the-local-muslim-community/ 

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Useful links and things mentioned in the episode

• Good Food by Ambrose Heath (1932)
• What the butler saw : two hundred and fifty years of the servant problem by E. S. Turner (2001) 
• Cooking & Dining in Tudor & Early Stuart England by Peter Brears (2015)
• Cooking & Dining in Medieval England by Peter Brears (2012)
• What’s in a Name?: Buttery by Neil Buttery (2016) British Food: A History blog
• The Invention of the Restaurant: Paris and Modern Gastronomic Culture by Rebecca L Spang (2000)
• A Bite Sized History of France: Gastronomic Tales of Revolution, War and Enlightenment by Stéphane Henaut and Jeni Mittchell (2018)
• The Bistro: French Food and the Culture of Place by Bertrand Auboyneau and François Simon (2018)
• French Provincial Cooking by Elizabeth David (1960)
• What is Olla Podrida? 
• A Siege of Paris ‘Menu’ 
• Cadbury World
• Bournville Village Trust
• Bournville Village Heritage Tour
• A Brief History of Birmingham 
• You can visit some examples of the city's Back-to-Backs run by the National Trust. 
• Sociable Cities: The Legacy of Ebenezer Howard by Peter Hall and Colin Ward (1998) Amb
• Ninety Years On: An Account of the Bournville Village Trust by Philip Henslowe (1984)
• To-morrow: A Peaceful Path to Real Reform by Ebenezer Howard (1898)

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In this episode our team take a healthful approach to the start of the season. Allie goes bananas, Sam explores a once popular low-carb diet and Neil discovers why some fruits are only masquerading berries despite their names.

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Dr Neil Buttery also hosts the British Food History Podcast and is the author of A Dark History of Sugar,  Before Mrs Beeton: Elizabeth Raffald Britain’s Most Influential Housekeeper as well as Knead to Know: A History of Baking and The Philosophy of Pudding. You can find him on Instagram and Bluesky

Dr Allie Pino hosts the Fear Feasts Podcast with Vanessa Baca and is the co-author of A Gothic Cookbook. You can find her on Instagram and Bluesky

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Useful links and things mentioned in the episode

• Neil Buttery, Knead to Know, Icon Books, out this September 2024!
• Fresh, (2022)
• Food Standard Agency Food additives 
• British Food: a History, Scotch woodcock
• Marine Conservation Society
• Neil Cooks Grigson, To Make a Nice Whet Before Dinner
• Ortiz anchovies 
• Sally Granger , The Story of Garum (2020)
• The Epic of Gilgamesh  (c.2150-1400 BCE)
• William Shakespeare,  The Taming of the Shrew  (1594)
• Women in Beer
• Elaine Dundy, The Dud Avocado (1958)
• Bee Wilson, Swindled: From Poison Sweets to Counterfeit Coffee (2008)
• Hannah Glasse, The Art of Cookery (1747) 
• Elizabeth Raffald, The Experienced English Housekeeper (1769)
• Judith M Bennett, Ale, Beer and Brewsters in England (1996)
• William Langland, Piers the Plowman (1887)
• Charlie Taverner, Street Food: Hawkers and the History of London (2023)
• The Tale of Beryn
• Louise Gray,  Avocado Anxiety (2023)
• The A-Z of avocado types
• Avocado hand 
• Rotten: The Avocado War, Rotten (2018-2019)
• Angela Carter, The Bloody Chamber (1979)
• Jeff Miller, Avocado – A Global History (2020)
• Sylvia Plath, The Bell Jar (1963)

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Dr Neil Buttery also hosts the British Food History Podcast and is the author of A Dark History of Sugar and Before Mrs Beeton: Elizabeth Raffald Britain’s Most Influential Housekeeper. You can find him on Instagram and X.

Dr Alessandra Pino also co-hosts the Fear Feasts Podcast and is the co-author of A Gothic Cookbook. You can find her on Instagram and X.

Useful Links and things mentioned in the episode

Neil cooks Jane Grigson’s recipe for Guards of Honour

Eating Ortolans - Gastro Obscura

Neil’s woodcock recipe

Neil’s snipe recipe

Alouette, Gentile Alouette

Neil’s recipe for Seftons (savoury custards)

Neil cooks Jane Grigson’s recipe for Hindle Wakes

Jurassic Park Lysine Scene

What Should We Call Frankenmeat? The Cut by Edith Zimmerman (2018)

Carry on Screaming Reel (sadly this doesn’t show the ‘victims’ getting encased in wax but it gives you an idea)

Han Solo frozen in Carbonite

Suggested Reading

The Inferno (1265-1321), by Dante Alighieri

Forme of Cury (c.1380)

Fool’s Gold: A History of British Saffron (2023) by Sam Bilton

‘The Sit Down’ in Medium Raw by Anthony Bourdain (2010) for the description of eating Ortolans

A Gothic Cookbook (2024) by Ella Buchan and Dr Alessandra Pino

Before Mrs Beeton: Elizabeth Raffald, England’s Most influential Housekeeper (2023) Neil Buttery

The Constance Spry Cookery Book (1956) by Rosemary Hume and Constance Spry

Mrs Beeton and Mrs Marshall (2023) by Emma Kay

Rebecca (1938) by Daphne du Maurier

The Accomplisht Cook (1660) by Robert May

McGee on Food and Cooking: An Encyclopedia of Kitchen Science, History and Culture (2004) by Harold McGee

Sweetness and Power (1986) by Sidney Mintz

The Experienced English Housekeeper, 1784 edition, by Elizabeth Raffald 

Le viandier de Taillevent (c. 1300 in French. You see some of the recipes translated into English on this website)

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Dr Neil Buttery also hosts the British Food History Podcast and is the author of A Dark History of Sugar and Before Mrs Beeton: Elizabeth Raffald Britain’s Most Influential Housekeeper. You can find him on Instagram and X.

Dr Allie Pino hosts the Fear Feasts Podcast with Vanessa Baca and is the co-author of A Gothic Cookbook. You can find her on Instagram and X.

As ever Allie, Neil and I talked for ages about our vegetal A’s and inevitably we strayed onto our pet subjects of aphrodisiacs and sex. So here are the saucy bits we couldn’t fit into the previous episode on vegetables. But we start by continuing our discussion on the perils of recipe testing. 

Suggested Reading

English Food (1998) by Jane Grigson

Good Savouries (1934) by Ambrose Heath

Royal Cookery or the Compleat Court Cook by Patrick Lamb (1726)

Put Out More Flags (1942) by Evelyn Waugh

Useful Links

Sam’s Recipe for William Verrall’s Sweetbreads With Asparagus (1759)

Sam’s interpretation of Hannah Glasse’s Asparagus in a French Role (sic) on Instagram (essentially a quiche in a loaf of bread)

Neil’s Butter Sauce (a classic accompaniment to asparagus)

You can also find Neil’s talk on 'Navigating 19th Century English meals through Worcester porcelain' for the Museum of Royal Worcester onYouTube

Lindsay Middleton’s project Dishes for the Sickroom examines the links between food, health, education and international ingredients in the culinary collections of the Glasgow Caledonian University (GCU) Archive Centre.  

Suggested Reading

Emma by Jane Austen (1815)

The Diner’s Dictionary by John Ayto (1993)

Mrs Beeton’s Book of Household Management by Isabella Beeton (1861)

The Bloody Chamber by Angela Carter (1993)

The Fruit, Herbs and Vegetables of Italy by Giacomo Castelvetro (1614)

‘Crumbs! A history of biscuits in 15 fantastic facts – from flatulence cure to phenomenal fuel’ by Lizzie Collingham in The Guardian, 18 October 2020

The Art of the Asparagus by Daisy Dunn in the Spectator, 15 May 2021

Acetaria. A discourse of sallets by John Evelyn (1706)

 Meat: A Natural Symbol by Nick Fiddes (2015)

A Plain Cookery Book for the Working Classes by Charles Elmé Francatelli (1852)

Giovanna Garzoni

English Food (1998) by Jane Grigson

A Treatise of All Sorts of Food Louis Lémery (1745)

Caravaggio’s Artichokes by Jesse Locker in Gastronomica, Vol. 19, No. 4 (Winter 2019), pp. 20-27

Scots kitchen, its traditions and lore with old-time recipes by F. Marian McNeill (1935)

Notes on Nursing by Florence Nightingale (1859)

In Search of Lost Time by Marcel Proust (1913)

The Experienced English Housekeeper by Elizabeth Raffald (1769)

Food in Art by Gillian Riley (Reaktion Books, 2015)

Caravaggio: fury, food and fine art by Gilian Riley on artuk.org 29 September 2017

La Varenne's Cookery. The French Cook; The French Pastry Chef; The French Confectioner. A modern English translation and commentary by Terence Scully. (Prospect Books, 2006)

Le cuisinier françois by François Pierre de la Varenne (1680)

You can follow the A is for Apple Podcast on Instagram and X (Twitter).

Sam Bilton also hosts the Comfortably Hungry Podcast and is the author of First Catch Your Gingerbread, Fool’s Gold: A History of British Saffron and The Philosophy of Chocolate. You can find her on Instagram and X.

Dr Neil Buttery also hosts the British Food History Podcast and is the author of A Dark History of Sugar and Before Mrs Beeton: Elizabeth Raffald Britain’s Most Influential Housekeeper. You can find him on Instagram and X.

Dr Allie Pino hosts the Fear Feasts Podcast with Vanessa Baca and is the co-author of A...]]>In today’s episode we will be discussing what many a child dreads encountering on their dinner plate. So prepare yourself for a wrinkled nose or two, an impromptu visit to the sick room and a few prickly surprises as Allie, Neil and I explore the verdant world of vegetables. 

Useful Links

Sam’s Recipe for William Verrall’s Sweetbreads With Asparagus (1759)

Sam’s interpretation of Hannah Glasse’s Asparagus in a French Role (sic) on Instagram (essentially a quiche in a loaf of bread)

Neil’s Butter Sauce (a classic accompaniment to asparagus)

You can also find Neil’s talk on 'Navigating 19th Century English meals through Worcester porcelain' for the Museum of Royal Worcester onYouTube

Lindsay Middleton’s project Dishes for the Sickroom examines the links between food, health, education and international ingredients in the culinary collections of the Glasgow Caledonian University (GCU) Archive Centre.  

Suggested Reading

Emma by Jane Austen (1815)

The Diner’s Dictionary by John Ayto (1993)

Mrs Beeton’s Book of Household Management by Isabella Beeton (1861)

The Bloody Chamber by Angela Carter (1993)

The Fruit, Herbs and Vegetables of Italy by Giacomo Castelvetro (1614)

‘Crumbs! A history of biscuits in 15 fantastic facts – from flatulence cure to phenomenal fuel’ by Lizzie Collingham in The Guardian, 18 October 2020

The Art of the Asparagus by Daisy Dunn in the Spectator, 15 May 2021

Acetaria. A discourse of sallets by John Evelyn (1706)

 Meat: A Natural Symbol by Nick Fiddes (2015)

A Plain Cookery Book for the Working Classes by Charles Elmé Francatelli (1852)

Giovanna Garzoni

English Food (1998) by Jane Grigson

A Treatise of All Sorts of Food Louis Lémery (1745)

Caravaggio’s Artichokes by Jesse Locker in Gastronomica, Vol. 19, No. 4 (Winter 2019), pp. 20-27

Scots kitchen, its traditions and lore with old-time recipes by F. Marian McNeill (1935)

Notes on Nursing by Florence Nightingale (1859)

In Search of Lost Time by Marcel Proust (1913)

The Experienced English Housekeeper by Elizabeth Raffald (1769)

Food in Art by Gillian Riley (Reaktion Books, 2015)

Caravaggio: fury, food and fine art by Gilian Riley on artuk.org 29 September 2017

La Varenne's Cookery. The French Cook; The French Pastry Chef; The French Confectioner. A modern English translation and commentary by Terence Scully. (Prospect Books, 2006)

Le cuisinier françois by François Pierre de la Varenne (1680)

You can follow the A is for Apple Podcast on Instagram and X (Twitter).

Sam Bilton also hosts the Comfortably Hungry Podcast and is the author of First Catch Your Gingerbread, Fool’s Gold: A History of British Saffron and The Philosophy of Chocolate. You can find her on Instagram and X.

Dr Neil Buttery also hosts the British Food History Podcast and is the author of A Dark History of Sugar and Before Mrs Beeton: Elizabeth Raffald Britain’s Most Influential Housekeeper. You can find him on Instagram and X.

Dr Allie Pino hosts the Fear Feasts Podcast with Vanessa Baca and is the co-author of A Gothic Cookbook. You can find her on Instagram and X.