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Bridging the Confidence Gap: Building Guided Outdoor Adventures with Julia Hartley

Wed, 25 Mar 2026 04:00:00 +0000

Sarah interviews Julia Hartley about creating Guided Outdoor Adventures and her “confidence gap” idea: helping people feel safe and supported while getting outdoors with caring professional mountain leaders who keep groups together and make walks more accessible.

Julia traces her motivation to moving to a new area and to childhood experiences on PGL trips where instructors provided security after her parents’ separation, shaping her confidence and adventurous spirit.

She shares her winding career path from early hospitality work to gaining qualifications, becoming a sports therapist, and later feeling restless before returning to her business idea with encouragement from a friend. Julia describes building a two-sided “Airbnb-style” platform for guides and customers, securing lottery-related funding, growing from six to 67 leaders, learning marketing and SEO through mentors and courses, facing competition and critical coaching, and planning gradual expansion while prioritising purpose over profit.

A Question for the Listener

Julia leaves the audience with a couple of powerful prompts for self-reflection.

Links for Guided Outdoor Adventures

Website

Facebook Group

Instagram

References

The Confidence Gap https://guidedoutdooradventures.co.uk/the-confidence-gap-guided-outdoor-adventuring-cic/

HF Holidays https://www.hfholidays.co.uk/

Mike https://cheshire-online.com/

Ilaria Petrucci https://herwildadventures.co.uk/

Meet The Guides https://guidedoutdooradventures.co.uk/meet-the-guides/

Damian Baxter https://www.geogrowthmedia.com/

Steven Bartlett https://stevenbartlett.com/

Final notes

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Give your magic to the right people - career change interview with Allie Bailey

Sun, 08 Feb 2026 06:00:00 +0000

In this raw and deeply personal conversation, Sarah Lister talks with ultra-runner and endurance coach Allie Bailey about the intersection of life, career, and running, shaped by the format of her new book. Allie shares her journey from a high-pressure career in the music industry to hitting rock bottom through alcoholism, and eventually rebuilding a life centered on her core values. This episode is a must-listen for anyone feeling "stuck" in a career or life path that doesn't feel like their own.

Sensitive topics

Alcoholism: Allie speaks candidly about her history as a "raging alcoholic". She describes reaching "the bottom of the barrel," losing her home, partner, and money due to her addiction.

Mental Health Struggles and Depression: Allie talks about her struggle with depression and mentions having post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD).

Suicide: Allie mentions trying to kill herself and talking to her sister about killing herself.

Toxic Work Environments and Exploitation: The conversation touches on the harsh realities of the music industry, where Allie witnessed artists having "nervous breakdowns" and described the culture as one that "exploits you basically for your talent and makes you frightened to leave".

Body Image and Self-Esteem: Allie mentions common insecurities she hears from athletes she coaches, such as "I'm not a real runner," "I'm too big to be a runner," and "I'm not good enough".

Trauma and Difficult Family Dynamics: There is a brief mention of how some women "grow up miserable and pass that trauma down" , and Allie notes that for some people, "family isn't everything".

Strong Language: The whole interview contains frequent swearing throughout the conversation.

Core Content & Key Takeaways

Values are the Compass for Change:

Allie emphasizes that unhappiness often stems from working against your personal values.
She identifies her own core values as kindness, authenticity, and honesty.
Success is redefined not by status or money, but by whether your decisions align with your value system.

Breaking the "Lucky" Narrative:

Allie rejects the idea that her career change was due to luck. Instead, she attributes it to belief, doing the work, and manifestation.
She encourages listeners to stop "giving their magic away" to companies or people that don't deserve it and to start investing that energy in themselves.

Thoughts are Not Facts:

A central theme of Allie’s coaching and her new book is challenging the stories our brains tell us to keep us "safe".
She discusses "fear storyboarding"—taking a fear to its logical conclusion to realise that reality is rarely as catastrophic as our imagination.

The Myth of the Quick Fix:

Real change requires active participation. Allie notes that reading a book or listening to a podcast won't change your life unless you do the work consistently.
She highlights that "confidence comes from doing what you say you’re going to do".

Navigating "The Dip":

Allie discusses the inevitable emotional and physical drop that happens after achieving a major goal (like finishing the 268-mile Spine Race or completing a big project).
The key to surviving the dip is accepting it as a natural human process and setting up a support system of "your people".

A Question for the Listener

Allie leaves the audience with a powerful prompt for self-reflection:

"How do you feel when you wake up every morning going into the job you're doing, and how do you want to feel? Can you make yourself feel that way in your current position? If the answer is no, how are you going to make yourself feel like that?"

Links & Resources Mentioned

References

The Happiness Trap by Russ Harris

The Spine Race

Northern Traverse

Nicky Spinks

Links

31 Days: A zero-bullsh*t mindset masterclass for the modern runner - by Allie Bailey

There is No Wall - by Allie Bailey

Allie’s website

Follow Allie on Instagram

Running Won’t Save You Podcast - by Allie Bailey

Final notes

Visit About The Adventure website to contact Sarah, the podcast host, with your comments, questions or suggestions for future guests. Or email directly: sarah@sarahventurer.com

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The redundancy for me was an opportunity - career change interview with Claire Hunter

Wed, 28 Jan 2026 05:45:00 +0000

In this episode of the About The Adventure podcast, we hear the inspiring story of Claire Hunter, a former HR professional who has embarked on a transformative journey of career change. Claire shares her childhood dream of walking the Pennine Way, and how redundancy and life events led her to take time out for self-reflection and personal growth. She discusses the significance of her 'chrysalis year' in 2025, during which she completed various certifications and assessments, consolidating her skills and rethinking her career path.

Now focused on aiding midlife women navigate change through coaching, leadership development, and mindfulness, Claire offers insights into starting her own business and the importance of nature and mindfulness in her coaching methodology. This episode captures Claire's evolution from a structured HR role to a fulfilling career aligned with her passions and values.

Recording information

This interview was recorded in Grindleford on 29th December 2025.

Links

Elysian Leadership

Follow Claire on LinkedIn

References

My Pennine Way Reflective Journal by Claire Hunter on Amazon.

Final notes

Visit About The Adventure website to contact Sarah, the podcast host, with your comments, questions or suggestions for future guests. Or email directly: sarah@sarahventurer.com

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Podcast music is by Tsarzi and artwork by Tiffany-Francis Baker.

Thanks for listening!

Working outside has been a revelation - career change interview with Martin Swithenbank

Mon, 12 Jan 2026 05:45:00 +0000

Martin Swithenbank, an Outdoor Instructor and climber based in the Yorkshire Pennines, shares his journey from working in art studios and formal education to becoming an outdoor educator.

Initially hesitant to apply for the job at an outdoor centre, Martin has found a new calling working with 10 and 11-year-olds, using outdoor activities to engage and inspire them. During the COVID pandemic, a stint working with at-risk children ignited his passion for making a positive impact outside traditional school settings. Encouraged by his friends and partner, Martin made a significant career shift by apprenticing at an outdoor centre. He reflects on overcoming self-doubt, embracing new opportunities, and the transformative power of outdoor education for both himself and the children he works with.

Conversation topics include challenges in mainstream education, gaining confidence and overcoming imposter syndrome, believing in your abilities, embracing failure as growth and the power of human connection.

Listen all of the way to the end so that Martin can ask you a question that may help you to think about your own potential career change.

Recording information

This interview was recorded in Edale on 17th December 2025.

References

West Yorkshire Police

Carl Rogers

A Mug of Life on Instagram

Final notes

Visit About The Adventure website to contact Sarah, the podcast host, with your comments, questions or suggestions for future guests. Or email directly: sarah@sarahventurer.com

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Podcast music is by Tsarzi and artwork by Tiffany-Francis Baker.

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The calling to follow your life path - career change interview with Irina Kudres

Thu, 11 Dec 2025 05:45:00 +0000

What’s it like moving to a new country and setting up a creative business? Irina Kudres shares her story about moving to Bergamo in Italy with her partner and changing her career path. Previously working in digital marketing and PR, she is now doing portrait, documentary and brand photography.

Irina’s home country is Russia and she has also lived in Malaysia and Germany. She talks about both the positive aspects and challenges of living in different countries, including the mountainous region where she lives in Italy now.

This interview highlights the first steps that Irina took to becoming a freelance photographer and the importance of following your life path when you sense a calling for change.

Recording information

This interview was recorded online on 11th November 2025.

Irina’s Links

Irina’s website

Photo story book Another Odyssey

Studio: Panoramico Studio

Connect with Irina on LinkedIn

Follow Irina on Instagram

Final notes

Visit About The Adventure website to contact Sarah, the podcast host, with your comments, questions or suggestions for future guests. Or email directly: sarah@sarahventurer.com

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Podcast music is by Tsarzi and artwork by Tiffany-Francis Baker.

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Life’s too short to be stuck doing something that you don’t enjoy - career change interview with Emily Taylor

Sun, 26 Oct 2025 16:30:00 +0000

From Classroom to Mountaintops: Emily's Journey of Grief and Career Transformation

[Note: This interview includes sensitive topics about grief, mental health, and suicide. Please consider carefully if it’s a suitable time for you to listen to this content.]

Emily Taylor, also known as Trigs and Teeth, shares her inspiring journey from being a teacher to becoming a prominent outdoor influencer and mountain leader.

During the COVID-19 pandemic, she and a friend started exploring trig points in the Peak District, which eventually led her to create an Instagram page documenting her adventures. The page grew, and Emily continued to build a community around it, eventually becoming an Ordnance Survey Champion and collaborating with major outdoor brands like Rab and Acai Outdoor Wear.

Emily opens up about her struggles with mental health, her father's tragic death, and how reconnecting with nature became a crucial coping mechanism.

She describes her career transition from teaching, a profession she once thought she'd retire from, to leading walks, teaching navigation courses, and creating content for brands.

Her story emphasises the importance of following one's passion, the power of nature in working through emotions, and the significance of a supportive network in making such a transformative career change.

This episode contains sensitive discussions about mental health, grief, and suicide. Emily’s experiences highlight the critical need for self-care and the courage required to make significant life changes. Listen to the end for her thoughtful question that might help you evaluate your own career path.

Recording information

This interview was recorded outdoors in Edale beside Crowden Brook on 7th October 2025.

Emily's Links

Emily's outdoor events for women on eventbrite

Emily’s outdoor adventures: Trigsandteeth

Confidence building for outdoor women: peakoutdoorcoaching

References

Suzanne Hill

Acai Outdoorwear website

Rab website

Tog24 website

Blacks online website

Yoga teacher Emily in the Outdoors Instagram account

Final notes

Visit About The Adventure website to contact Sarah, the podcast host, with your comments, questions or suggestions for future guests. Or email directly: sarah@sarahventurer.com

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Podcast music is by Tsarzi and artwork by Tiffany-Francis Baker.

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I think it’s ok for your dreams to change - career change interview with Ceri Jones

Mon, 15 Sep 2025 05:30:00 +0000

This episode delves into the transformative career change journey of Ceri Jones, a former orchestral manager who shifted her path to become a food educator and cookbook author.

Following the loss of her parents and a realisation of unfulfillment in her job, she found solace and passion in writing a recipe blog that led her to pursue culinary arts. The story covers her pivotal decisions that eventually lead her to fulfilling her dream of writing a cook book, published in 2024.

She now enjoys a diverse career combining food education, content creation, and recipe writing. Emphasising the importance of discovering and pursuing one's passion, the episode offers insights into overcoming challenges and redefining personal and professional fulfillment.

Don't miss the closing question that encourages reflection on pursuing career changes without regrets.

Ceri's first cookbook ‘It Starts with Veg : 100 Seasonal Suppers and Sides‘ was published by Pavilion Books in June 2024.

She trained over 10 years ago as a ‘Natural Chef’ in Berkeley California and since then has been building her online platform as a recipe writer, honing her skills as a chef by cooking for over 70 yoga and wellbeing retreats around the world, and teaching hundreds of cookery classes to a wide range of communities. For 3 days a week she is the sole Food Educator at the Garden Museum in London where you can find her leading cookery workshops for kids, families, community groups and the general public.

Working in food is her second career. She previously worked in the world of music, project managing concerts and tours for a London based international orchestra, and before that a music degree specialising in clarinet performance. She still enjoys playing the clarinet and singing in her spare time and regularly performs with two ensembles in South London where she lives.

Recording information

This interview was recorded online on 5th June 2025.

Links

Ceri's website

Simple and Seasonal Substack

Follow Ceri on Instagram

Final notes

Visit About The Adventure website to contact Sarah, the podcast host, with your comments, questions or suggestions for future guests. Or email directly: sarah@sarahventurer.com

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Podcast music is by Tsarzi and artwork by Tiffany-Francis Baker.

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The change I needed to make was to get out of that job - career change interview with Jenna Maryniak

Mon, 23 Jun 2025 05:45:00 +0000

Jenna’s interview captures a personal journey, documenting her career path from an academic beginning in literature and journalism to a fulfilling career as a counsellor.

After working in veterinary publishing for nine years, she knew she wanted to do something that felt more meaningful with her career. She wanted to help people and not be stuck behind a desk, so she joined the police.

Later she trained as a detective and joined the child abuse unit. These intense experiences rekindled her intrinsic desire to connect and help people, ultimately leading her to pursue counselling.

Her career change was driven by the realisation of the importance of mental health, empathy, and the need for professional fulfillment. Alongside battling personal challenges like anxiety and burnout, she embarked on counselling training while managing a full-time job as Deputy Editor at Trail Magazine, which gave her the opportunity to reconnect with the mountains and to push herself out of her comfort zone in a restorative way.

With the support of her family and loved ones, she set up her private counselling practice, aiming to integrate nature and human connection in a peaceful space. The story highlights the significance of following one’s passion, the necessity of self-care, and the value of supportive networks in making significant career transitions.

Make sure you listen until the end to answer Jenna’s question, which might just help you take the next step in your career.

Recording information

This interview was recorded online on 9th May 2025.

Links

Jenna’s counselling website

Follow Jenna on Instagram

References

Trail Magazine

Will4Adventure

Mind Over Mountains

Final notes

Visit About The Adventure website to contact Sarah, the podcast host, with your comments, questions or suggestions for future guests. Or email directly: sarah@sarahventurer.com

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Podcast music is by Tsarzi and artwork by Tiffany-Francis Baker.

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Change is hard but it’s possible - career change interview with Julia Hames

Fri, 21 Mar 2025 10:58:00 +0000

The key message in this episode with Julia Hames is about figuring out what it is you want and then taking the baby steps to get there, because sometimes the path in the middle isn’t always clear.

Julia tells us about her move from living in a big town to rural life in South Wales, and about her career change from working 12-hour shifts to running a B&B alongside her Smallholding and developing Wordpress websites.

She talks about the challenges of running a B&B, particularly during the Covid pandemic, and tells us why she decided to give that up for a more balanced lifestyle and to do a part-time degree.

Julia tells her story with a great positive spirit, which has obviously helped her to get through some really tough times, alongside the accountability network that has supported her in the local community.

By listening to this episode you’ll also find out what it’s like having a Smallholding around self-employment, why she has put her travel dreams on hold, and why you should give something a go if you really want to do it!

Keep going until the end to answer Julia’s question, which might just help you take the next step in your career.

Recording information

This interview was recorded online on 18th February 2025.

Links

Julia Hames on LinkedIn

Julia’s website: Coding Cottage

Coding Cottage in Instagram and Facebook

Final notes

Visit About The Adventure website to contact Sarah, the podcast host, with your comments, questions or suggestions for future guests. Or email directly: sarah@sarahventurer.com

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Podcast music is by Tsarzi and artwork by Tiffany-Francis Baker.

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Learning the craft of writing with author of The Search - Paul Besley

Sat, 28 Dec 2024 18:58:00 +0000

This episode is about choosing to live happily by dreaming your way there and making new decisions to steer the direction.

Author Paul Besley talks about some of the challenges he has faced throughout his life, including alcoholism, bullying, a severe mountain accident, working in a high-pressure job as a salesman, and living with asbestosis disease. He shares what he has learned along the way and how he manages to find contentment through life’s challenges. Paul imparts his wisdom and advice in ways that feel relatable and attainable.

By listening to this episode you’ll also find out how Paul turned his career around to becoming a published author, which started with writing guidebooks, and later on his memoir- The Search by Vertebrate Publishing.

Keep going until the end to hear Paul’s powerful question for you to answer. It’s a really good one (once he remembers it!).

Recording information

This interview was recorded online on 11th November 2024.

Links

The Search - Paul's published memoir

Blog - Monthly Happenings by Paul Besley

Published works - by Paul Besley

Instagram

References

The Search - book by Paul Besley

Wild About Kinder - podcast episode interviewing Paul

Mark Richards - Author

Vertebrate Publishing

Mountain Rescue

Final notes

Visit About The Adventure website to contact Sarah, the podcast host, with your comments, questions or suggestions for future guests. Or email directly: sarah@sarahventurer.com

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Podcast music is by Tsarzi and artwork by Tiffany-Francis Baker.

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Jessica Sinclair - I’m definitely someone who has meandered a lot in my career

Sun, 08 Sep 2024 19:21:00 +0000

Can tarot help with making changes in your life? Jessica says tarot is for anyone who is interested in their personal development, open to something a bit different and just wants to learn more about themselves.

This interview is about a meandering career that has led Jessica towards becoming a tarot reader. Her work includes 1:1 readings in person in Sheffield & online, as well as at markets, festivals, and private events, and workshops teaching people how to read tarot.

As well as sharing her journey and how tarot can help people, Jessica talks about the challenges and fears she has worked through along the way. At the end she does a live tarot reading for me and offers you a question to explore.

Recording information

This interview was recorded at Paradise bench in Edale on 28th August 2024.

References

Sheffield Creative Guild

Marie Kondo

Links

Visit Patterns and Synchronicities website

Follow @jessica_sync on Instagram

Connect with Jessica on LinkedIn

Subscribe to Jessica’s newsletter

Attend Jessica’s Tarot 101 Workshop

Support My Podcast

About The Adventure has a patreon community where you can contribute £5 monthly to the show. This supports the cost of making the podcast and in return offers you a 10% discount on coaching sessions with Sarah and events by About The Adventure.

Final notes

Visit About The Adventure website to contact Sarah, the podcast host, with your comments, questions or suggestions for future guests. Or email directly: sarah@sarahventurer.com

Subscribe to Sarah's newsletter to receive episodes in your inbox, along with career change interviews and career coaching questions.

Podcast music is by Tsarzi and artwork by Tiffany-Francis Baker.

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Ranaa Farooq - I couldn’t envisage a way out of where I was

Sun, 09 Jun 2024 16:29:00 +0000

Are you prepared to sacrifice your life for your job? Ranaa Farooq says that she’s not willing to, despite her fear of judgement the guilt she has felt about leaving the NHS and medicine in general.

Ranaa Farooq is an abstract painter and life coach living in Sheffield, who describes the process of painting itself as therapy. In this interview she talks about her artistic journey and realisation that there’s more than one way of helping people.

Some of the themes that we discuss include her dreams about being an artist while growing up, how she gets into a meditative space and lets herself be guided how she feels while painting, what it’s like having her own art studio, and the importance of taking a break. At the end she has a question for you that may prompt a new way of thinking about any changes you want to make in your own life.

Ranaa’s Links

Ranaa's coaching website

Ranaa.farooq.art on Instagram

Ranaa Farooq Art on Facebook

References

Recording information

This episode was recorded in the foothills of Edale Valley on 24th April 2024.

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Final notes

Visit About The Adventure website to contact Sarah, the podcast host, with your comments, questions or suggestions for future guests. Or email directly: sarah@sarahventurer.com

Subscribe to Sarah's newsletter to receive episodes in your inbox, along with career change interviews and career coaching questions.

Podcast music is by Tsarzi and artwork by Tiffany-Francis Baker.

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Andy Mort - The small things are the big things

Sun, 28 Apr 2024 10:28:00 +0000

Can slowing down enable us to get to where we ultimately want to go more efficiently? ‘Slow Coach’ Andy Mort shares his unique approach to coaching and creating community in this enlightening interview. He tells us that he became a coach accidentally after people had directly approached him about it, prompting him to take up training and blend this with his work as a sound artist.

Before taking up coaching, Andy was an Undertaker. As you can imagine, this provides a unique career change story. He shares compelling insights into his experience and how this influenced his perspective on life.

Andy shares why he chooses to live between friends’ homes rather than settle in a place of his own, and why he has set up an online community for gentle rebels. Other topics include the challenges he faced while training as a coach, being an introverted performer, how ambient sound and meditative narratives can help people, and the value of podcasting.

This interview has a lovely steady pace and really valuable coaching questions at the end, so please take the opportunity to make yourself comfortable and give yourself the time and space to listen.

References

The Coaching Academy

Late Bloomers: The Hidden Strengths of Learning and Succeeding at Your Own Pace - by Rich Karlgaard

Look Again: The Power of Noticing What was Always There - by Tali Sharot, Cass R. Sunstein

Links

Andy’s website

The Haven online community

Gentle Rebel Podcast

Andy's music on Spotify

Follow Andy on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook and LinkedIn

Recording information

This episode was recorded online on 4th April 2024.

Support My Podcast

About The Adventure has a patreon community where you can contribute £5 monthly to the show. This supports the cost of making the podcast and in return offers you a 10% discount on coaching sessions with Sarah and events by About The Adventure.

Final notes

Visit About The Adventure website to contact Sarah, the podcast host, with your comments, questions or suggestions for future guests. Or email directly: sarah@sarahventurer.com

Subscribe to Sarah's newsletter to receive episodes in your inbox, along with career change interviews and career coaching questions.

Podcast music is by Tsarzi and artwork by Tiffany-Francis Baker.

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Peter Morton - I don’t think I’ve ever really had a map of what I’m going to do

Thu, 22 Feb 2024 20:02:00 +0000

Does it take a lot of courage to change your career path? Peter Morton thinks it does, and it was his own boss who gave him the nudge to do so! In 2006 he left his job in IT to pursue a career in outdoor education as a freelance instructor. This led on to the creation of RedOakBushcrafts, a family run business in the Peak District.

RedOakBushcrafts offers bushcraft, wilderness and survival skills courses in the Peak District and canoe expeditions in Scotland.

Here are the questions I ask Peter during this interview:

Do you find it challenging to do people-facing work?
What do you see is the impact on the people that come on your courses?
What was it that reignited your passion for the outdoors?
Did you feel impatient about your career progression when you left your IT job?
Did something trigger your decision to leave?
How did it feel for you to be making such a big change?
Do you think you would’ve stayed longer if your boss hadn’t given you the nudge?
Are you pleased you’ve taken these steps towards what you’re doing now?
Do you feel like it takes a lot of courage to leave things behind?
Which parts of your work do you absolutely love?
Do people really bond on your canoe trips?
What aspects of your work do you really not like?
What have you learnt along the way?
Has your work/lifestyle turned out as you expected?
How do people react to the type of work that you do?
Do you feel that your work is meaningful when comparing it to your previous job?
What were the first steps that you took with setting up RedOak?
What do you think your friends and family think of what you do?
Do you think you need an outdoorsy background to pursue an outdoors career?
Do you train people to do what you do?
Do you feel like you have a good standard of living?
Do you create as much free time as you can?
What question would you ask somebody who is thinking about a career change?

RedOakBushcrafts Links

Website

Instagram

Facebook

Recording information

This episode was recorded on the slopes of the Great Ridge in Edale, underneath a tarp, on 9th February 2024.

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Final notes

Visi About The Adventure website to email Sarah, the podcast host, with your comments, questions or suggestions for future guests. Subscribe to Sarah's newsletter to receive episodes in your inbox, along with career change interviews and career coaching questions.

Podcast music is by Tsarzi and artwork by Tiffany-Francis Baker.

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Jessica Snape-Burns - I love my job so much

Sun, 28 Jan 2024 17:00:00 +0000

**Please note that during this episode Jess talks about chronic health issues and grief.**

How important is support throughout a career change? This is the thread that runs through this interview with Jessica Snape-Burns, who shares her 10-year journey with Amerron Acres - a Community Interest Company (CIC) in Edale that provides a tranquil, safe and nurturing environment for therapeutic healing to take place. Jess offers Equine Facilitated Learning (EFL), family visits, retreats and wellbeing workshops.

Jess had a strong draw to animal welfare from a young age, choosing to volunteer with injured and sick animals at a sanctuary as a way to spend time with equines. She has always found comfort in the company of horses and set up Amerron Acres so she could share her special herd to help others on their healing journey.

Experiencing her own health struggles, with debilitating and disabling neurological symptoms causing years of wrong diagnoses and deteriorating mental health, she was eventually diagnosed with a chronic spinal CSF leak. Although mostly better now, she knows the value of self-care, resting and taking care of our mental health as a priority.

You can read more about Jess, Director & Practitioner at Amerron Acres, on her website from which these notes have been adapted.

At the end of the interview, Jess asks you a question and offers really helpful advice too.

Here’s the list of questions that I asked Jess:

How did horses first come into your life?
How do you get to know a horse?
Do the horses look to you for guidance?
How can you describe each of their personalities?
Was this building already here for you to use?
Have the other horses had a more challenging past?
Where were the seeds of this idea to set up Amerron Acres?
What work were you doing before?
What’s helped you through all of the challenges?
Did you come to Edale with this idea to set up Amerron Acres?
What’s involved in the logistics of getting the horses here?
Can you tell us about your illness?
What are your foundations for self-care?
Who can you best help through your facilitation here?
How do you facilitate a session with somebody who fears horses?
Do you still get surprised by the results of your work?
What role do the goats play?
How can people work with you? What do you offer?
How do you look after yourself in between sessions?
Do you have a vision for what you move towards in the future?
What’s the training you’ve done?
What question would you ask somebody thinking about a new career direction?
What’s the significance of 'Amerron'?

Amerron Acres links

References

Andrew Critchlow - interview on Wild About Kinder podcast

Recording information

This episode was recorded at Amerron Acres in Edale on 12th January 2024.

Correction

The name “Amerron” came from a very special horse named Amerron Rhia who inspired Jess to train in equine therapies and learning.

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Final notes

Visit About The Adventure website to email Sarah, the podcast host, with your comments, questions or suggestions for future guests. Subscribe to Sarah's newsletter to receive episodes in your inbox, along with career change interviews and career coaching questions.

Podcast music is by Tsarzi and artwork by Tiffany-Francis Baker.

Thanks for listening!

Stephen Reid - You can make a video and literally change someone’s life

Mon, 08 Jan 2024 06:00:00 +0000

In what ways can making videos feel meaningful? This is what Stephen explains at the beginning of his interview while sharing the reasons why he started a YouTube channel. In addition to making YouTube videos, Stephen also uses creative filmmaking to grow brands. He specialises in outdoors/tourism and also covers promos, events, online advertising for a range of industries. His business, Grafters Media has helped clients gain customers, win awards and gain multi-million investments. He talks about the aspects of commercial work that he finds most challenging and how he is trying to establish more balance in his life so that he doesn’t feel so stressed and get sick.

Themes during Stephen’s interview include the pressure he puts on himself to do a good job, his thoughts on nerves being a part of life, what it’s like to combine personal hobbies with work, the importance of keeping active, how he got into making commercial videos, and why he started trailrunning.

At the end of the interview, Stephen asks you a question that might help you to open up your thinking about taking a different career path that will give you more creative freedom and time outside.

Here’s the list of questions that I asked Stephen:

Why did you start a YouTube channel?
Did you feel nervous about speaking to the camera and sharing your videos when you started?
Why is it that you still show up and do it?
Do you want to spend time outdoors without being on camera?
What’s it like doing what you do?
Where do you think your stress is coming from?
How has it been to get yourself to this place?
Did you already know how to use cameras before you started the YouTube channel?
Do you think this is what you’ll continue to do as your line of work?
Do you believe that you could still find the thing you will stick with?
How long have you been doing this type of commercial work?
How proactive are you with finding client work?
Have you accepted nerves as part of the experience?
What question would you like to ask your listeners?

Links

Stephen’s YouTube channel

Stephen's video of us running on Kinder Scout

Stephen’s instagram

Stephen’s twitter

Stephen’s LinkedIn

References

Jacob Tonkin on Instagram

Fell Running with Jacob Tonkin video on Stephen’s YouTube channel

Runkeeper

Recording information

This episode was recorded at my house in Edale on 2nd November 2023.

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Final notes

Visit About The Adventure website to email Sarah, the podcast host, with your comments, questions or suggestions for future guests. Subscribe to Sarah's newsletter to receive episodes in your inbox, along with career change interviews and career coaching questions.

Podcast music is by Tsarzi and artwork by Tiffany-Francis Baker.

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Louise Earnshaw - I feel like I’ve become more of me again

Mon, 23 Oct 2023 07:45:00 +0000

What if there’s life outside of a classroom? This is one of the things that Louise Earnshaw kept considering before she made the decision to leave her job as a teacher after 20 years. Dismayed by the pressure and toxic environment, she left teaching in April 2023 to be a freelance outdoor instructor and artist. She says she feels so much happier managing her own time and pursuing the things she loves.

Themes during Louise’s interview include her concerns about finances, imposter syndrome, feelings of inadequacy during her early education years, the positive impact of outdoor pursuits, and managing her time now that she has more freedom and flexibility.

At the end of the interview, Louise gives you a simple creative task that might help you to take a step towards making a change in your life.

Here’s the list of questions that I asked Louise:

What does it feel like being sat here on a Wednesday morning when just a few months ago you would’ve been doing your job as a teacher?
Is the outdoors instructing something that you did alongside teaching?
How do you balance all of the different elements of your work?
What was it about Ali Foxon’s training that made you fly with it?
How long had you been thinking about leaving teaching?
Did you feel powerless to be able to do anything about it in the educational system?
Have you taken a big hit financially?
What would you say are the unmet needs that you experienced as a teacher that you’re discovering about yourself now?
Is there anything that unsettles you now that you have more freedom?
Why do you think you doubt yourself?
Did you go into teaching because you had a challenging experience at school?
What question would you like to leave us with?

Links to Louise’s work

Louise Earnshaw Artist website

Instagram

Facebook page

References

Duke of Edinburgh’s Award

The Adventure Element website

Dr Ali Foxon website

Dr Ali Foxon on About the Adventure Podcast

Sam Marshall - Artist and Printmaker website

Recording information

This episode was recorded in a Peak District woodland on 5th July 2023.

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Final notes

Podcast music is by Tsarzi and artwork by Tiffany-Francis Baker.

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Jen Scotney - I’ve spent way too long paralysed by fear

Wed, 02 Aug 2023 08:06:00 +0000

What makes you feel energised and alive? Jen Scotney says that she is still finding her way since she stopped working as a human rights lawyer. She feels like she is forging a unique path which is scary, but she has faith that if she does what she enjoys she can’t go wrong.

Themes during Jen’s interview include running, burnout, chronic fatigue, bereavement, the shame of not being able to cope with work, self-employment and career change. She also talks about the importance of flexibility to allow for time in nature, deep rest, and authentic connection.

At the end of the interview, Jen asks you a really powerful question that might help you to take a step towards making a change in your life.

The first 20 minutes of the episode is focused on running, Jen’s work as a coach, and how osteoarthritis has affected her. In the second part of the interview Jen talks about her career as a lawyer, the effects of burnout and chronic fatigue, and the steps she has taken since she decided to stop working as a lawyer.

Here’s the list of the questions I asked Jen:

How do you work with people as a running coach?
How has not running anymore had an impact on your work as a running coach?
How do you handle stressful times without running?
Do you give yourself permission to give yourself time off?
How difficult was it to make the decision to not enter the winter spine race?
Does choosing yourself and your health apply to your career decisions as well?
Did the profession disappoint you?
How did it feel making the decision to step away from your career as a lawyer?
When you were initially considering a career change, how do you think you got to where you are now and how is that going to guide you?
Do you ever feel like it can be lonely if most other people are in office jobs?
Question sent in from Angie: What do you do to stop yourself from spiralling when you’re having a bad day?
How do these things apply now with your podcast and writing a book?
Is your relationship with your husband better since you became happier with the work that you’re doing?
Are there some areas in your life now that you feel resistance towards?
What’s the motivation to share your story?
What are you working towards?

Links to Jen’s work:

Buy Jen’s book - Running Through the Dark

Read Jen’s substack and subscribe for a small monthly fee

Listen to Resilience Rising Podcast

See her upcoming events

Follow Jen on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook

Follow Resilience Rising Podcast on Instagram

References:

Montane Winter Spine

Marcus Scotney

James Reeves

Recording information

This episode was recorded inside a Peak District bothy on 30th June 2023.

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Final notes

Podcast music is by Tsarzi and artwork by Tiffany-Francis Baker.

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Anna Danby - Whatever path you take in life there will be what ifs and maybes

Sat, 15 Jul 2023 18:15:00 +0000

Why is it important for humans to reconnect with nature? Anna Danby says it is essential if we ever want to move towards a more sustainable way of being on planet earth and when thinking about our impact on this place that we call home.

This ethos has shaped her career from doing a Post Grad course at the University of Edinburgh in ‘Outdoor Environmental and Sustainability Education’, to taking up a position within the Learning Team at Dynamic Earth in Edinburgh, and what she does now as the Founder of Wild Roots Highland Guiding.

Themes during Anna’s interview include moving to live in the Scottish mountains, training as a Mountain Leader during her pregnancy, starting a company during the covid pandemic, resilience, collaboration, outdoor leadership and wild roots.

At the end of the interview, Anna asks you a question that might help you to break out of thinking that it’s too late or too challenging for a career change.

Here’s the list of the questions I asked Anna:

How would you describe the mountains in Scotland?
What’s your preferred time of year in the mountains?
How did you get to where you are now?
What was it like doing your Mountain Leader training when you were pregnant?
Has it taken a lot of courage to take the steps in your career?
Have you had times in the mountains when you’ve felt really vulnerable or fearful?
How do you facilitate connection with the landscape through your offerings?
Is it tricky to do because people want to chat?
What transitions do you witness in people?
What’s it like collaborating in your work?
What’s the most effective way that attracts people to your offerings?
Do you worry about the weather when you’re leading an experience?
Has your outdoor work affected your personal adventures and family life?
Where do your wild roots lie?
What’s the impact that you want to make through your work and in your life?
Do you think that most things can be resolved and worked through?

Wild Roots Highland Guiding

Take a look at Anna’s website to find out more about her work, and follow Wild Roots Guiding on Instagram and Facebook. You can also connect with Anna on LinkedIn.

Recording information

This episode was recorded online on 15th June 2023.

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References

Shona Macpherson - Counselling and life coaching website
Shona Macpherson on Instagram
Lindsay Warrack - massage, yoga and wellbeing website
Jon Fearne - endurance and adventure sports coaching website

Final notes

Podcast music is by Tsarzi and artwork by Tiffany-Francis Baker.

Thanks for listening!

Sarah Manning-Ball - Listen to what your dreams are telling you

Sun, 25 Jun 2023 18:00:00 +0000

What have you got to lose? Sarah Manning-Ball asked herself this question before setting up Glorious Grazes and Posh Picnics. In this episode, she tells us her career change story from working in the corporate world to following her dream of opening her own food business. At the end of the interview, Sarah asks a question for you to explore if you are thinking about a career change.

Themes during Sarah’s interview include mental health, imposter syndrome, career coaching, and practical steps towards making dreams happen. It carries a content warning because Sarah talks about suicidal thoughts, anxiety and depression at several points during the episode.

We recorded this approximately one year after our coaching session together, on 8th June 2023 while sitting next to a waterfall along a beautiful brook in the Peak District National Park.

Here’s the list of the questions I asked Sarah:

What makes your picnics glorious and posh?
Where did the perspective that food is glorious come from?
What made you decide to create a business around this love of yours?
How are you feeling now compared to how you were feeling in the corporate world?
What made you suddenly see things so clearly?
Do you think part of it was about giving yourself permission to follow something you really enjoy?
What were the first few steps you took to make it happen?
What grew out of that?
What role has nature played in your journey so far?
How does that compare to how you would deal with anxiety beforehand?
What sort of environments do you work in now?
How do you manage the challenges of working with people now?
Have you needed to set boundaries with people?
What’s it like between the excitement of getting a booking and the commitment involved with that?
Have you had any wobbles since you started the food business?
What’s one of the highlights that you’d like to share?
What would you say to your younger self now knowing this information?
Do you believe in there being the perfect time to make a change like this?
What’s your method of working through your fears?
What question would you like to ask people who are in a similar headspace as you were just a few months ago?

Glorious Grazes and Posh Picnics

Take a look at Sarah’s website to find out more about her work, and follow Glorious Grazes and Posh Picnics on Facebook, Instagram and LinkedIn.

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Final notes

Podcast music is by Tsarzi and artwork by Tiffany-Francis Baker.

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Ali Foxon - It opened my eyes to what was missing

Mon, 14 Nov 2022 06:00:00 +0000

How can the power of observation shift your perspective? In this episode, Ali Foxon shares how sketching outdoors transformed her life, career, and her mental health.

She talks about the incredible benefits of sketching nature and making it more accessible, where the idea for green sketching began, what it’s been like to leave previous jobs behind, her experience of becoming an author, and how she delivers workshops despite anxiety about public speaking.

At the end of the interview, Ali asks a question for you to explore if you are thinking about a career change.

Here’s the list of that questions that Sarah asked Ali:

If you had your sketchbook with you now, what would you choose to draw first?
When you're sketching, what does it do to you and your state of energy?
How do you encourage people to start sketching?
Have you seen people break through their worries, barriers or resistance about spending time sketching?
Where did green sketching all begin for you?
What was your first experience of sketching like?
How did you come up with the idea of “green sketching” and how has your career evolved?
What has worked really well in terms of engaging people with your work?
What will people experience from your book?
What was your experience of writing the book like?
What does your son think about what you do?
Did you take your decision to change your career lightly?
How do you feel now about stepping away from your previous career?
What’s helped you most along the way?
What are some of the skills you’ve learnt?
How do you deliver workshops when you’re anxious about public speaking?
Where would you like things to go from here?
How would you describe your experience of making a living from your work?
Do you feel like it’s given you more freedom in terms of how you spend your time?
Do you feel like your priorities have changed?
What question would you ask somebody who is thinking about a career change that allows them more time to connect with nature?

This episode was recorded while sitting in a woodland along the start of the Pennine Way in the Peak District, by Sarah Lister on 7th October 2022.

Take a look at Ali Foxon’s website to find out more about her work, watch her Tedx Talk on YouTube - Drawn to love nature, and follow her on Instagram.

Final notes

About The Adventure has a patreon community where you receive support with your own career change. Sarah is in the process of starting a career change support network to include both online and in-person events. You can support the podcast and get involved with the community for £5 per month.

Podcast music is by Tsarzi and artwork by Tiffany-Francis Baker.

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Andy Darnton - I had no idea what else I wanted to do

Tue, 09 Aug 2022 06:00:00 +0000

What happens in the space between starting to think about a career change and actually making it happen? In this episode, Andy Darnton shares his story about leaving a career as a commercial lawyer.

He talks about the need for change, his concerns about what other people might think, how he started to explore alternative options, why Legal Tech appeals to him, and his experience of getting back into the mountains and becoming a Mountain Leader.

At the end of the interview, Andy asks a question for you to explore if you are thinking about a career change.

Here’s the full list of questions that Sarah asked Andy:

Can you start by describing what you were going through when you started to think about a change in direction?
What was on your mind while you were at work? What types of questions were you asking yourself?
How did you start to explore and find your answers?
What have been the highs and lows for you so far?
Do you think that the culture of work can change?
Do you think that having a purpose is an important part of your career change story?
Has freelancing given you the freedom that you wanted to spend more time in the mountains?
Have your stress and anxiety levels changed since you became self-employed?
Which aspects of the course have you found the most challenging and how did you approach them?
Why is having the ML qualification important to you?
As a leader, what do you think is unique about you and the experiences you’re offering to people?
How has the transition into a leadership position been for you so far?
Do you think it comes down to exploring different elements of your personality and what you enjoy?
What question would you like to ask, to help people think creatively about making a change in their own lives?

This episode was recorded while sitting on Kinder Scout by Sarah Lister on 29th July 2022.

Take a look at Andy’s website to see the adventures he has planned, his blog Highs and Lows, and follow him on Twitter and Instagram.

References

Alastair Humphreys

Final notes

About The Adventure has a patreon community where you can support this podcast and receive support with your own career change through a Facebook group and outdoor events in the Peak District.

Podcast music is by Tsarzi and artwork by Tiffany-Francis Baker.

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Stella Bolam - I was scared and excited at the same time

Sat, 07 May 2022 13:00:00 +0000

In this episode, Sarah interviews Stella Bolam, who has switched from a long-term career in communications and writing to join the wonderful world of tree care and science, working in Community Forestry.

Stella shares why she began reflecting on what to do with the rest of her career, how she found the courage to explore a new path, and what life has been like since she started taking the first steps.

Here’s the full list of questions that Sarah asked Stella:

Why did you start reflecting on what you want to do with the rest of your career?
Questions from Milly on twitter - What gave you the courage to make the final step out of your previous career? Was it a gentle bit by bit shift or was it a down tools and step completely into the unknown?
What does your work involve as a volunteer street warden? What are the sorts of issues that you look out for?
Through talking to people, what did you find out about their relationships with the trees?
How would you best describe your personal connection with trees and how has that evolved over time?
Is there a type of tree or woodland that you particularly like?
Were there any aspects of your previous work that you found difficult to let go of?
How did you find out that you were really drawn to this work? Did anything make the decision really clear in your mind?
Is the certificate you’ve got an expensive course to pursue?
Are you still spending a lot of time at your desk?
Do you feel like it is an accessible sector for people to enter?
Is there anything that you’ve learnt or experienced so far that has really amazed you?
Has this change in career had an impact on other areas of your life?
Do you feel like there’s been any shift in your identity?
How has it felt to reconnect with your interest in trees and nature?
How has it been for you to learn new skills?
Have you noticed a change in your energy and motivation?
Do you feel like your work now is more meaningful?
What’s the experience you can get from touching nature?
Do you have a particular approach that you want to take with this new career path?
Do you have an idea about when you’re going to finish your diploma?
What question would you ask people that might help them get beyond the block of thinking it’s too late for a career change?
How can people start to explore outside of their current world?

This episode was recorded while sitting in the beautiful Bolehill Wood in Grindleford, by Sarah Lister on 14th March 2022, and edited by Gabby Wolstenholme.

You can follow Stella's journey on LinkedIn, Instagram, and Twitter. Read her article: 'Why I chose arboriculture as a career' which was submitted to the Arboricultural Association's Student Book Prize Award 2021 and won first place in the written category in March 2021.

References

Arboricultural Association

Professor Lynne Boddy - Professor of Fungal Ecology at Cardiff University UK

Sheffield City Council

Sheffield Food Partnership

About The Adventure has a patreon community where you can support this podcast and receive support with your own career change through a Facebook group and outdoor events in the Peak District.

Podcast music is by Tsarzi and artwork by Tiffany-Francis Baker.

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Jon Hyde - I needed a shift so I forced that to happen

Thu, 03 Feb 2022 18:20:00 +0000

In this episode, Sarah interviews her friend Jon Hyde about his leather goods business based in Sheffield. Prior to this he was a photographer and ran a queer film programme at a cinema in Brighton.

Jon shares why he started making leather goods, how earlier aspects of his life and career have played a part in running his business, and what it's been like moving up north. He also talks about his love of nature and learning about geography, and some of the challenges that he has faced throughout his life. Please note that he briefly talks about death and grief.

Here’s the full list of questions that Sarah asked Jon:

Why did you start making things from leather?
How do you get through the challenges of picking up a new craft?
How have you learned this craft?
Do you think it requires a certain level of patience?
How long did it take you to start selling your goods?
Have you had customers from all over the world?
What’s the process that you go through from designing to selling a product?
Do you have help with any parts of the business?
What lifestyle does this work facilitate for you?
How did you arrive at the point where you feel comfortable with what you’re earning?
Do you feel like you value money in a different way now?
Where do you think that your love of the outdoors is rooted?
What prompted you to move to Sheffield?
How has it been moving into a new city and away from a place where you had friends and you felt quite established?
What’s gone on behind the scenes?
Why do you think it can feel so hard to step out of societal norms and pressures?
Do you have particular values that you stand by and hold close within your business as well?
What question would you ask someone who is thinking about designing, making, and selling their craft, but they are perhaps feeling overwhelmed by all the different aspects of setting up a small business?

This episode was recorded while sitting on a hillside of Kinder Scout in Edale, by Sarah Lister on 16th December 2021, and edited by Gabby Wolstenholme.

You can visit Jon's website Hyde Wares, visit his Etsy shop, and follow him on Instagram. Find out more about his work in this beautiful short documentary by Sam Binstead which celebrates small makers.

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Podcast music is by Tsarzi and artwork by Tiffany-Francis Baker.

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Karen Weir - Somewhere deep in my soul I needed to be somewhere else

Sun, 31 Oct 2021 14:00:00 +0000

In this episode, Sarah interviews Karen Weir, who changed career from working as a management consultant in London to becoming a running and triathlon coach and personal trainer.

Karen shares how running has made a difference to her life, why her approach to work hasn’t changed since she left her job in London, what learning curves she has noted along the way, and about her involvement with parkrun and RunWell.

She also tells us about how her Masters in Coaching Science is going, the proposed topic for her dissertation, and about the transition from city life to living in the Peak District.

Here’s the full list of questions that Sarah asked Karen:

How has running made a difference to your life?
What transformations do you see in the people that you coach and train?
How has your approach to work changed since you left your job in London?
What do you think have been the biggest learning curves for you since you started offering your coaching and training services?
Where did you discover your passion for running?
How do you separate your own training and running from working with other people?
What’s your experience of being involved with Park Run?
Why did you set up RunWell and what’s your involvement with it now?
Where do you hope that your Masters in Coaching Science will lead?
What are you enjoying and finding challenging about the course?
Do you feel a sense of adventure living here in the Peak District?
How would you approach working with somebody who wants to run but worries it’s too late in life to make a start?
What question would you ask someone who is thinking about a career change into sport coaching or training?

This episode was recorded at The Bothy, Cafe Adventure in Hope by Sarah Lister on 26th August 2021 and edited by Gabby Wolstenholme.

You can visit Karen’s website and follow her on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter.

References during this episode include:

Parkrun

RunWell Club

About The Adventure has a patreon community where you can support this podcast and receive support with your own career change. By getting involved with the community you can put forward your own questions for guests, suggest the types of work that you'd like to hear more about, and get invited to events. With your contributions I can make episodes more regularly and create a community that focuses on values, creativity and connection as a more inspiring approach to career change. I hope to see you there!

Visit About The Adventure website to email Sarah, the podcast host, with your comments, questions or suggestions for future guests. Subscribe to Sarah's newsletter to receive episodes in your inbox, along with career change interviews and career coaching questions.

If you enjoy my podcast I'd really appreciate it if you could please write a quick review on Apple podcasts or Podchaser, this will help more people to find the show.

Podcast music is by Tsarzi and artwork by Tiffany-Francis Baker.

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Rachael Shaw - I’m still struggling with workaholism

Wed, 01 Sep 2021 13:15:00 +0000

“If I ever feel overwhelmed by the world, I do this thing where I just zoom out.”

In this episode, Sarah interviews Rachael Shaw, a self-employed Business Consultant who previously worked in a high level job in the travel industry.

Rachael shares the personal experiences that led towards her career change, how working with a coach helped, why running has an important role in her life, what things have changed since she left her full-time job, and how she enjoys spending time in nature.

Here is the full list of questions that Sarah asked Rachael:

What personal experiences led you towards your career change?
How did you start to open up other options for yourself?
What was it that made you go towards the business consultancy work rather than pursuing the trail running coach route?
What approaches did you try when you started looking for a new job and did any of these work for you?
How has coaching helped you along the way?
How did you come across the coach that you worked with?
Are there any tools or experiences that you took away from your experience of being coached?
Why does business consultancy appeal to you?
Is there anything that you’ve brought from your previous work working in the travel industry into the self-employed work that you’re doing now?
Is it mainly small businesses and startups that you want to work with?
How did you discover your values and match these up with the work that you do now?
How have things changed since you left your job?
Why do you think it was that you were so focused on work?
Do you think you lost any parts of yourself while working in the travel industry?
How do people you work with usually discover you?
Have there been any resources that have helped you to create your business and to guide you on how much to charge?
Is there anything that you’ve struggled to adjust to?
Why do you think it’s so hard for people to give themselves the permission to have a bit more freedom with how they spend their time?
How have your family, friends and husband responded to your career change?
Where would you like your work and lifestyle to move towards from here?
How did you get into trailrunning?
What are you like when you’re out running compared to when you’re sitting in front of your laptop?
What do you think it was that gave you the motivation to start running?
How do you enjoy spending time in nature, and why is this important to you?
Do you think that there is anything that stops people from spending more time outside?
What powerful question would you ask somebody who is thinking about changing their career, but concerned about leaving a secure and well-regarded position - that might help them in taking a step towards a new decision?

This episode was recorded outdoors in the Peak District by Sarah Lister on 26th July 2021 and edited by Gabby Wolstenholme. We were sat in the sunshine, with the slopes of Mam Tor towering above us and bees buzzing around us. After the interview we enjoyed a trailrun together, picked up some litter along the way, and cooled off for a quick dip in Grindsbrook.

Since recording this interview, Rachael has decided to pause her consultancy work and has started a part-time job at Mind, a mental healthy charity. Mind is an organisation where she was keeping an eye on roles for around 5 years and this felt like the right place, right time, and right role for her. She still isn't quite over the burnout that she's been going through, and running a consultancy was too much too soon.

You can visit Rachael's website here and connect with her on LinkedIn.

References during this episode include:

The Little Chapters Podcast

Rachael’s Professional Development Coach

Oprah’s Soul Sunday

Careershifters

Escape the City

Sustainability Theorem

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Podcast music is by Tsarzi and podcast artwork by Tiffany-Francis Baker.

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Simon Maillet - Working full time on your craft is really liberating

Tue, 27 Jul 2021 16:39:00 +0000

“When it’s your true passion it’s not hard to do it.”

In this episode, Sarah interviews Simon Maillet, a French knifemaker in Sheffield. Before taking up his current craft, his background was in urban ecology and landscape design.

Simon shares some stories about his bike trip from France to Iran, some insight into the challenges he faces with speaking English and living away from his family in France, and his thoughts on how he found what had been missing from his life.

Here is the full list of questions that Sarah asked Simon:

Who inspired you to take a different path?
Was there a particular turning point that made you realise that you could make a change?
What made you go on the cycling trip from France to Iran?
How important is it to you now to travel?
Do you think meeting the blacksmith had a big influence on you?
What were the first steps that you took towards making significant changes?
What were the other jobs you were doing in the early stages to support your craft?
Do you have moments when you worry and think you need to look for other work?
Have there been any bumps in the road along the way?
Where did you learn your skills as a bladesmith?
How have you developed your technique since you started making knives?
How do you feel when you go into your workshop?
What is your approach to finding locally-sourced materials?
Who buys the knives that you make and are they the people that you’re aiming for?
How do you sell your knives?
Is photography a skill that you’ve taught yourself?
Does anyone else support you with your business?
What’s it like living and working in Sheffield for you?
Do people take the opportunity to visit your workshop?
What standard of living are you working towards?
Do you still have an appetite for travel?
Is there anywhere in particular that you would love to go to?
Do you still feel a connection with your background in urban ecology and landscape design?
How do you most like to spend your time when you’re not working?
Is it important to you to take a break from thinking about your craft?
What question would you like to ask our listeners, who are perhaps considering a career change into work as a craftsperson, that might help them to make a start?

This episode was recorded outdoors in the Peak District by Sarah Lister on 2nd June 2021 and edited by Gabby Wolstenholme. There was a brief interruption when a helicopter flew right over us. We were sat in a woodland surrounded by bluebells during the interview, and then went for a walk together. During the walk he taught me how to identify some trees which was really interesting, and he gave me a wonderful gift of homemade pear jam which is absolutely delicious!

You can visit Simon's website here and follow him on Instagram and Facebook.

References during this episode include:

Freeman College: https://www.rmt.org/freeman/

Sheffield Knife Sharpening: https://www.sheffieldknifesharpening.com/

About The Adventure now has a patreon community where you can support this podcast and receive support with your own career change. By getting involved with the community you can put forward your own questions for guests, suggest the types of work that you'd like to hear more about, and get invited to exclusive events. With your contributions I can make episodes more regularly and create a community that focuses on values, creativity and connection as a more inspiring approach to career change. I hope to see you there!

If you enjoy my podcast I'd really appreciate it if you could please write a quick review on Apple podcasts or Podchaser, this will help me to reach more people.

Podcast music is by Tsarzi and podcast artwork by Tiffany-Francis Baker.

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Simon Stokes - State of mind is the most important thing

Fri, 11 Jun 2021 05:30:00 +0000

“The outdoors is a good analogy for business because you realise you’re capable of more than you think.”

In this episode Sarah interviews Simon Stokes, a qualified Mountain Leader & Rock Climbing Instructor for his business Peak Outdoor, based in the Peak District. He changed career from CEO of a fire and security company to the work he does now as an outdoor instructor.

Simon also does some freelance outdoors work and volunteers with Edale Mountain Rescue. He has climbed and trekked in all mountainous areas in the UK, The Alps, Borneo & The Himalayas. Each year he leads a Torridon Adventure in Scotland which is a 5-day trip that includes walking, scrambling, and accommodation at a bunkhouse.

During this episode, Sarah asks Simon:

Question from Suzanne Hill: At what point did you decide to take the leap to create Peak Outdoor, and how did you combat the fear?
Question from Charlotte Holroyd: How did such a radical change feel and how did you know when you were experienced enough to make the leap?
What are the biggest challenges that you’ve encountered along the way?
Have you made any changes to the way that you run Peak Outdoor as a result of any challenges that you’ve faced?
Did you ever struggle with the change in status?
Who joins your activities?
What do you spend most of your time doing?
How does your business stand out from others that offer similar types of activities?
What is your technique when somebody is really nervous about taking part in the activities that you offer?
Is there anything new that you are learning or working towards at the moment?
Which direction do you expect Peak Outdoor to move towards?
What do you think is the best way to reach people and encourage them to join your activities and courses?
How much money have you invested in learning, qualifications, and in your business since you started out?
What’s valuable to you, in life and business?
What do you say to people who might say that you have a lucky life?
Would you say that you’re a natural leader?
Question from Jennie at Intuitive Wellbeing: where did you start with courses?
Why is it important to you to spend time outdoors on trails, boulders, mountains and rocks?
What question would you like to ask our listeners who are considering a career change into providing outdoor activities, but they perhaps feel overwhelmed to make a start or unsure if they can make a living from this type of work?

This episode was recorded outdoors in the Peak District by Sarah Lister on 11th May 2021 and edited by Gabby Wolstenholme. Simon suggested Stanage Edge as our location for the interview, which was a beautiful setting. We scrambled up to a cave, and after the interview we walked to High Neb and looped back round to scramble down. It was great to experience his coaching skills first-hand during the scrambles and I really appreciated his encouragement and patience.

You can visit Simon's website Peak Outdoor to see what activities he has coming up, and follow him on Instagram and Facebook for useful outdoors tips.

References during this episode include:

Mountain Training - https://www.mountain-training.org/

Alpkit - https://alpkit.com/

Edale Mountain Rescue - https://edalemrt.co.uk/

Dan McKinlay - http://www.mckinlaymountaineering.com/

Mountains for the mind - https://www.mountainsforthemind.co.uk/

Graham Uney - https://www.grahamuneymountaineering.co.uk/

About The Adventure now has a patreon community where you can support this podcast and receive support with your own career change. With your contributions I can make episodes more regularly and create a community that focuses on values, creativity and connection as a more inspiring approach to career change. By getting involved with the community you can put forward your own questions for guests and suggest the types of work that you'd like to hear more about. I hope to see you there!

If you enjoy my podcast I'd really appreciate it if you could please write a quick review on Apple podcasts or Podchaser, this will help me to reach more people.

Podcast music is by Tsarzi and podcast artwork by Tiffany-Francis Baker.

Steve Wharton - Storytelling runs through everything that we do

Mon, 03 May 2021 13:15:00 +0000

"Different people work in different ways, but for me, I have to really inhabit that world to get the most out of it."

In this episode Sarah interviews Steve Wharton, a Lake District performer, presenter and media producer with a passion for his native Cumbria. Steve put himself forward as a guest on the show to tell us about why he decided to train as an early years teacher at the age of 43.

You might recognise Steve’s voice from Terry Abraham’s film that was aired on the BBC “A Year on Helvellyn” which I highly recommend watching if you haven’t already, or perhaps you’ll recognise him from his collaborative podcast “28 Dales Later” in which he tells fascinating stories about the landscapes and heritage of northern England.

During this episode, Sarah asks Steve:

Why did you decide to arrange a place on an Early Years Initial Teacher Training course?
What commitment does the course involve?
Has the course placement had much of an impact on your family life and creative projects?
Which direction would you like to see your career move towards from this point?
What sort of performing were you doing previously and can you imagine going back to that?
How do you make time for your creative work as a storyteller, musician and podcast host?
What is it that inspires your creative imagination?
Can you see these continuing and developing alongside your work as a teacher?
How did it come about that you featured in Terry Abraham’s documentary film?
What role does storytelling play in your life?
What place do you think it should hold in society, and to what extent do you think this is happening at the moment?
Is it a skill you are using in your teacher training course?
How did you become a storyteller?
How did you get your first gigs?
How has your confidence developed throughout your career?
Can you transfer that confidence over to your teacher training?
Have there been any particularly notable challenges that you’ve come across as a performer?
What changes would you like to see for performers, or for artists in general?
Can you share with us some of the projects that you’re working on at the moment?
Who do you want to reach and inspire through these projects?
How have the places you’ve lived and travelled influenced your work?
Where feels like home to you?
What is important to you when choosing a place to live and work?
Where do you spend time for creative thinking?
What question would you ask somebody who is thinking about a change in direction with their career, but is perhaps concerned about their creative talents getting left behind?

This episode was recorded online by Sarah Lister on 11th March 2021 and edited by Gabby Wolstenholme.

Visit Steve's website: Cumbrian Songs

Check out the 28 Dales Later and Lyre Lyre podcasts as well as his latest album, which features songs written in 5 different countries.

In 2021, Steve is directing At Home In The Steep Places, a biography of Maryport-born miner, climber and artist Bill Peascod. The film will feature landscapes of the English Lake District and Wollongong in Australia. This is a 28 Dales Later production for The Settlement at Castle Hill, Maryport. Visit the 28 Dales Later Facebook page.

Follow Steve on Twitter: @28Dales and @lakestoryteller.

Please note that this episode was recorded remotely so may sound different to other episodes.

If you enjoy my podcast I'd really appreciate it if you could please write a quick review on Apple podcasts or Podchaser, this will help me to reach more people.

Podcast music is by Tsarzi and podcast artwork by Tiffany-Francis Baker.

Charlotte Holroyd - A calling to do something different

Mon, 15 Feb 2021 11:00:00 +0000

"Having my own business has given me that massive flexibility to reimagine a working day."

In this episode, Sarah interviews Charlotte Holroyd, the founder of Creative Wilderness, an ethical branding design agency in Greater Manchester. Charlotte provides intuitive creative design, brand identity, web design and print to independent businesses across Stockport, Cheshire, Manchester, and around the world. In addition to this she has created The Brand Builder online branding course for soulful business owners or designers who want to learn how to build a brand that has purpose, WOW and positive impact. Charlotte also co-hosts a monthly "Conscious Entrepreneurs" meet-up that brings people together in a small group to talk about business ideas, to share wisdom and to help each other.

Charlotte has over 10 years of experience in the design industry working at big agencies on brands. Her first job was at an advertising agency after setting up an indie online zine called ‘Geeek’ which focused on Manchester culture and bought together illustrators and writers around the city. Before jumping into design she dreamed of being a musician and studied music at Paul McCartneys music school ‘The Liverpool Institute of Performing Arts’. She spent a few years as a pro musician, and still loves to play the saxophone.

All of Charlotte's work is guided by her values which are all about nature, calmness and an organic style. She draws inspiration from her walks, wildswims and campervan adventures. During this episode, Sarah asks Charlotte:

How has setting up your own company enabled you to create more time to spend outside?
Why has that become a priority in your life?
How has your appreciation of nature and outdoor experiences inspired your graphic branding design agency?
Has it also guided who you choose to work with?
Has ethical branding and sustainability always been important to you, or was there a particular turning point?
What have you noticed happens if you don’t make time to get out?
What led you to create your brand builder course?
What’s the journey that you take people on with your course?
Can you give us an idea of what went on behind the scenes? (the highs, lows, frustrations, challenges etc)
How are you reaching the people who you want to share your knowledge with?
Who has helped or supported you along the way?
How important do you think it is to feel part of a community when you’re freelancing or working alone from home?
What steps have you taken to create a sense of community for yourself and for others?
How do your Conscious Entrepreneurs meet-ups work?
Reflecting back on your career, how have you found your way through some of the main challenges?
Question from The Intrepid Creative: How did you attract clients to work with you when you started freelancing as a graphic designer?
They also ask: Is it difficult to push away the doubts about success and financial stability and did you prepare financially prior to starting your business?
How does your lifestyle now compare to your previous work experiences?
Have you had any moments where you’ve thought that you can’t run your own business any more?
What’s helped you to get through the difficult times?
What helped your decisions towards creating a unique branding agency that is grounded in your values?
Is there one thing that has really helped you to define your brand?
How do you know what your values are?
We have another couple of questions that have been sent in by Jessica Sinclair, a creative designer and illustrator. Firstly: Where do you look for clients that are in line with your values?
Has there been a particular platform that you’ve found to be organic in attracting people to work with you?
Secondly from Jessica: What’s your process for ensuring the work that you’re taking on is in line with who you are and want to be?
Can you select three core things that have been essential to your work and lifestyle becoming more enjoyable and flexible for you?
What powerful question would you ask people to encourage them to start taking steps towards a career change?

This episode was recorded online by Sarah Lister on 2nd February 2021 and edited by Gabby Wolstenholme.

Visit Charlotte's website: Creative Wilderness and see The Brand Builder Course.

Follow Charlotte on Instagram, Pinterest & LinkedIn.

Check out the Conscious Entrepreneurs meet-up on Instagram.

During the show, Charlotte mentions Daria, founder of High on Yoga, who co-hosts Conscious Entrepreneurs. She also mentions Paul Jardine, a creative independent website designer, developer and consultant.

Please note that this episode was recorded remotely so may sound different to other episodes.

Visit About The Adventure website to email Sarah, your podcast host, with your comments, questions or suggestions for future guests. Subscribe to Sarah's newsletter to receive episodes in your inbox, along with career change interviews and career coaching questions.

Podcast music is by Tsarzi and podcast artwork by Tiffany-Francis Baker.

Sam Devito - Being able to think creatively

Wed, 09 Dec 2020 08:08:00 +0000

“I have so much to learn and so many new friends to make and that’s not something I ever want to stop doing."

In this episode, Sarah interviews Sam Devito - photographer, filmmaker and co-owner of Edale General Store. After six weeks of lockdown and losing a lot of pre-booked work, Sam and his partner Laurel were out on a limb and without any real purpose. They agreed they needed a project, and Edale village, where they live, needed a shop - so they decided to give it a go. By July 2020, Edale General Store opened its doors as soon as the first lockdown in England lifted.

Sarah asked Sam to be a guest on the show because of the inspirational way that he adapted to his circumstances during a pandemic, and because of his approach towards taking an idea and making it happen. Sarah wanted to capture how they got everything together in such a short amount of time, who helped them along the way, and what it is that they want people to experience by entering a village shop that serves both locals and visitors. It was also a great opportunity to find out about his future career plans, and how moving from London to a Peak District village has made an impact on his perspective towards life. During the show, Sarah asks Sam:

Why did you decide to open your own shop here in Edale?
How did you bring your idea to life?
How did you decide on your first steps & did you receive any guidance?
What creative skills and experience have really helped you to make it happen?
What steps do you think have been integral to your business?
Who comes into your shop?
What experience do you want people to have when they enter?
Has it worked out how you imagined it to be?
How do you integrate your values into your business?
Who has helped you along the way?
What are you working towards at the moment?
What’s the most challenging aspect of your work?
When do you stop to take a break?
What do you notice happens if you don’t take time out?
Does it impact other areas of your life as well as work?
Why do you care about your work so much that you dedicate so much time and energy towards it?
Which direction would you most like your career to move towards from here?
How has your perspective on life changed since you moved to Edale from London?
What question would you ask somebody who is thinking about trying out a new project during this pandemic, but have concerns about going off-track from their longer-term career?

This episode was recorded outdoors by Sarah Lister in the Peak District on 19th November 2020 and edited by Gabby Wolstenholme.

You can see some of Sam's photography and short films on his website. Follow what's happening at Edale General Store on Instagram or drop in before/after your Peak District adventures.

The runner mentioned during the show is Damian Hall who has completed a hat trick of record-breaking trail running rounds during 2020.

Podcast music is by Tsarzi and podcast artwork by Tiffany-Francis Baker.

Helen Turton - Life is happening now, live it!

Wed, 11 Nov 2020 19:40:00 +0000

"Something inside me was saying it's the right time and the right opportunity to move on to something else."

In this episode, Sarah interviews "polar girl" Helen Turton - Newland Expeditions manager, specialising in guided ski expeditions. Helen's passion is for taking part and guiding on expeditions, including skiing over Greenland, Svalbard, Iceland, many locations in Norway, and to both the North and South Poles. On return, she loves to share her experiences, delivering presentations and workshops, inspiring other people to believe in their dreams.

Sarah invited Helen to be a guest on the show because of her dynamic personality, inspiring stories, and positive outlook towards life. She really lives by her company motto "Life is happening now....live it!" Even through a pandemic, she continues to work, stay connected with colleagues and clients, and to prepare for future trips. During the show, Sarah asks Helen:

Why do you choose to manage an expedition company and lead expeditions as your main source of work?
As an adventurer, what's it been like spending the last few months in the Peak District?
How did you make the transition from working for Nottingham County Council to becoming an expedition leader?
Did any initial worries or concerns about making a career change actually happen during your experience?
Which of your qualifications have been the most useful to you throughout your career so far?
How did you feel before you took on the courses that you've done?
What have you pushed yourself to do as a way of pursuing your career path?
Do you think that what you're doing now connects with what you imagined you would go on to do when you were really young?
What would you say to people who haven't discovered their true passion yet?
Have you had to make any sacrifices in your life because of work and travel?
What’s your approach to solving problems and handling tricky situations?
Who do you work with at Newland Expeditions?
How have you been staying in touch with your colleagues and clients this year?
How do you take time out for yourself?
Where do you think that your appetite for adventure comes from?
What powerful question would ask somebody who is thinking about planning a new adventure challenge or becoming an expedition leader?
What trips are you planning for 2021?

This episode was recorded outdoors by Sarah Lister in the Peak District on 4th November 2020 and edited by Gabby Wolstenholme.

You can follow Newland Expeditions on Instagram and Facebook, or visit their website for more information and to get in touch.

Visit About The Adventure website to email Sarah, your podcast host, with your comments, questions or suggestions. Subscribe to Sarah's newsletter to receive episodes in your inbox, along with career change interviews and career coaching questions.

Podcast music is by Tsarzi and podcast artwork by Tiffany-Francis Baker.

Gabby Wolstenholme - Being kind is the best way to find work

Sat, 17 Oct 2020 09:00:00 +0000

"Just try and do your best, whatever it means that day."

In this episode, Sarah interviews Gabby Wolstenholme - a filmmaker, theatremaker, musician, collective owner and a director. Her passion lies in creating and this has always been the case for her. She graduated from York St John University in 2020 with a 1st class degree in drama and theatre. Now living back in Edale in the Peak District where she grew up, Gabby has a variety of work in the village which includes serving customers at Edale General Store, supporting outdoor lifestyle brand Jam Cycling, and editing this podcast!

Sarah asked Gabby to be a guest on the show because of her unconventional route to finding new work opportunities. Rather than spending months sending off job applications and curating a CV, she has been offered new opportunities by meeting people and being open to work. As a recent graduate, Sarah also wanted to capture her perspective on University life and how important she thinks it is to get a degree. During the show, Sarah asks Gabby:

How has living here had an impact on your creativity?
Why did you decide to study drama and theatre at York St John University?
Was your experience of University how you expected it to be?
Do you think that going to University is important for your career?
Do you think it’s important for any other reasons?
What valuable things did you learn about yourself throughout your three years at Uni?
How do you approach finding new work opportunities?
What is it that makes you say yes to a new job or project?
When have you been challenged to do something that you’d usually shy away from?
How do you handle the challenges that you face?
What question would you ask somebody who is thinking about going to University?
What question would you ask somebody who is looking for a new approach to thinking about their career?

This episode was recorded outdoors by Sarah Lister in the Peak District on 7th October 2020 and edited by Gabby Wolstenholme.

You can follow Gabby on Instagram and check out her artist portfolio here.

Anna Caig Communications - Finding the sweet spot where creativity and marketing meet

Sat, 15 Aug 2020 14:00:00 +0000

“There’s no better place to think and see the world clearly than on a really good walk with a friend.”

Sarah interviews Anna Caig who has worked in communications for 17 years, specialising in media relations, reputation management and strategic marketing campaigns. She has trained media spokespeople to deliver information in the most challenging and high pressure situations. She began her training business to help writers to build their brand and reach more readers. Anna now works with traditionally, indie and self-published writers, as well as helping creatives in any discipline.

She tutors on the MA Journalism course at The University of Sheffield and writes crime fiction. Her current work in progress has been shortlisted for the CWA Debut Dagger prize. Sarah asks Anna:

After 17 years of working in communications, what made you decide to start your own business?
What steps did you take to move from full-time employment towards doing freelance work?
How did you imagine it would be to start your own business and how close is it to your experience so far?
What are the biggest challenges you’ve come across that you didn’t expect?
Where does your interest in communications stem from?
What gap can you fill for writers and other creatives?
Who do you most enjoy working with when you’re training people?
Why do you think some people find it challenging to promote their own work?
How do you make time for reading, blogging, and writing novels around your new business?
Where do you go for creative inspiration?
What question would you like to ask our listeners?

This episode was recorded by Joe Willis online via zoom on 3rd July 2020. You can say hello to Anna on twitter @AnnaCaig or on her website www.annacaigcomms.co.uk and read her book reviews here: https://murderundergroundbrokethecamel.wordpress.com/

During the show Anna mentions crime writers Clare Mackintosh and Katherine Stansfield.

Rachel Fletcher - Sometimes things change and you take a different path.

Mon, 20 Jul 2020 16:20:00 +0000

“I knew if I didn’t do it I’d regret it.”

Sarah interviews her friend & previous mentee Rachel Fletcher who has just completed her second year studying an AfN accredited BSc Nutrition, Diet and Lifestyle degree at Sheffield Hallam University. Sarah asks Rachel:

What are you feeling really positive about this year?
How has your outlook on life changed since you started your degree?
Are there any skills or experiences from working in the police that you think are valuable in your life now?
Have you made any changes in your lifestyle since you started to study your degree in Nutrition, Diet and Lifestyle?
Do you feel now that you’re not working full time that you have more balance in your life?
Is there anything that you miss from working in the police?
Was it something that you always wanted to do when you were a child?
When did you make the decision to leave your job as a Detective Inspector and to start your degree?
How did you actually make the decision? Did you talk to people?
How did your friends and family react to your change of career? (Question from Joe on Twitter)
Did it matter to you what other people thought?
What fears, worries or challenges have you faced along your path so far?
How do you handle those fears when they come up?
How are you supporting yourself financially while you’re studying?
What’s it like living in Derby?
Why is it that you’ve chosen to study Nutrition, Diet and Lifetsyle?
Are there any modules that you’ve learnt something completely new, or that you’ve been surprised by?
Do you find it challenging to choose the modules that you take for the year?
What work would you most like to do after you’ve graduated?
Do you know what sort of people you would like to work with?
Do you know where you might like to set up your business?
Where do you think people can find reliable information about Nutrition, Diet and Lifestyle?
What makes you feel really healthy?
How do you make time for your other interests?
What are some of your interests that you would like to have more time to explore?
How does starting your own business sound to you now, when you’re half way through your degree?
When do you completely relax?
What would you like to ask people who are considering a career change?

This episode was recorded in Sheffield at Kurious Arts podcast studio on 25th February 2020. The best place to find Rachel is on Instagram where she posts tempting recipes and nutrition information along with her lovely photography. You can also read an interview with Rachel on my website.

Panjango - Exciting journeys through the world of work

Wed, 01 Jul 2020 09:00:00 +0000

"I feel like going on adventures myself has led me to be more adventurous within the business world as well."

Sarah interviews her friend Jon Maiden, Co-founder & CEO of Panjango. Sarah asks Jon:

Why did you decide to change your career?
Have there been any fears that you've pushed yourself to face?
What's it like running your own business?
How do you think that careers education, information and advice can be better for people?
How do you define your life and your purpose?
Who do you think can have the greatest influence on helping people to find careers with meaning and purpose?
Is there anyone in your life who really inspires or influences you?
When do you feel that your work is really making a difference?
Do you think that there's an ideal age to start thinking about careers?
What happens behind the scenes of running your business?
Where are you spending your time when you're not working?
How has your passion for adventure influenced your career path and decisions in life?
Where does your adventurous spirit come from?
Why do think it's important to spend time in wild places?
How do you find time for that now you're running a business?
What happens to you and your work if you don't get away from it all?
Is there a particular environment that you need to be in to come up with new ideas for your business?

At the end of the episode Jon asks you a question to take away and think about, as well as offering some advice and adventure inspiration!

This episode was recorded in Sheffield at Kurious Arts podcast studio on 13th February 2020. Please see link below to find out more about Panjango.

Panjango website

Her on a Hill - Navigating career change as a Mountain Leader

Fri, 12 Jun 2020 18:18:00 +0000

"It's about pushing yourself a bit and getting out of your comfort zone and the more you do that, the wider that comfort zone becomes."

Sarah interviews her friend and navigation teacher Clare Kelly who started her own women's walking company, Her on a Hill, in Spring 2019. Sarah asks Clare:

How has walking impacted your life and career?
How do you think that walking can change people's lives?
What happens to you if you don't get out for a walk?
Why have you created a women's walking company?
Why do you choose to create events that combine creativity, history, and learning while walking?
What challenges have you come across during your first year of running Her on a Hill?
How can you help people to get outside more and detach from busy lifestyles?
Who is your support network?
What do you want to happen with Her on a Hill?
What question would you ask people who want to explore a new career path?

This episode was recorded in Sheffield at Kurious Arts podcast studio on 21st January 2020. Please check to see if the information discussed is still up to date when you listen. Please see links below to find out more about Her on a Hill.

Her on a Hill

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