To Be and Do: Because

Show Notes

In this reflective episode of To Be and Do, Phil Amerson offers a brief meditation on the importance of togetherness, compassion, and the deeply spiritual act of sharing a meal. Rooted in personal experience and theological insight, the episode invites listeners to consider how everyday moments—especially coming together at the table—can become opportunities for healing, connection, and hope in a fractured world.

The episode opens with a poetic introduction from Ken Medema, setting a gentle, contemplative tone: “Clock strikes 10 coffee time again. While the world is rushing to its judgment day. Judgment day.” 00:01 This reflective spirit carries through as Speaker B shares his thoughts on community, inspired by a recent retreat for pastors (the details of which are teased for a future episode).

As we await that story, Amerson turns our attention to a profound image—an oil painting by Kadir Nelson titled After the Storm, depicting a diverse group of people united in hope after times of hardship 00:58. This image becomes a launching point for exploring how we might move past divisions of race, language, and nationality, envisioning a future where empathy and welcome take precedence 01:46.

Drawing on theological themes, Speaker B encourages listeners to see the table—wherever it might be—as a place for Holy Communion and transformation. From Christ’s meals with those on the margins to the post-resurrection story of recognition in the breaking of bread, the episode urges us to make every shared meal a chance for connection and grace 03:17, 03:47.

Three Takeaways

1. The Table as Sacred Space: Amerson emphasizes that ordinary tables, where we share meals, can become powerful places of communion and reconciliation, echoing some of Christianity’s most profound stories 03:06.
2. Radical Inclusion Over Division: The episode calls us to imagine a future beyond divisions—racial, linguistic, or national—and to actively combat indifference and othering by welcoming strangers and breaking bread together 01:46.
3. Hope After Hardship: Inspired by Kadir Nelson’s After the Storm, Speaker B offers hope that after times of conflict and pain, there is the possibility of unity, healing, and new beginnings when we simply choose to be together 01:26.

May every coffee break or shared meal become an invitation to compassion, connection, and holy presence in your daily life.

Guest: Tyler Brinks, Associate Pastor at First Presbyterian Church, Bloomington

Episode Overview

In this episode of To Be and Do, host Phil Amerson sits down with Tyler Brinks, a young pastor whose ministry journey traverses denominational traditions and diverse congregational settings. Together, they explore the changing landscape of mainline Protestantism, the power of hope and creativity in faith communities, and the intersection of contemplation and activism. Tyler Brinks also shares insights on the influence of spiritual mentors and the simple spirituality found in his favorite discipline: running.

Three Key Takeaways

1. Demographic Shifts Spark New Narratives of Hope

Tyler Brinks candidly addresses the statistical decline in mainline denominations such as the PCUSA and Methodists, referencing Ryan Burge’s work forecasting significant membership decreases in coming decades (03:08). Despite the sobering data, Tyler Brinks emphasizes the importance of seeing possibilities where others see scarcity. He encourages holding stories of decline in tension with counter-narratives—highlighting faithfulness and creativity that statistics often overlook. Vibrant ministry, he insists, continues to emerge even within challenging constraints (04:40, 07:40).

2. Diversity of Experience Fuels Ingenuity in Ministry

From large, urban congregations like Second Presbyterian in Indianapolis to rural yoked churches and historically Black congregations such as Witherspoon Presbyterian, Tyler Brinks describes a ministry shaped by diverse contexts (14:03). He notes that whether facing questions of shrinking membership or merging congregations, practitioners continuously honor tradition while creatively discerning the present moment’s needs (16:34). Sharing experiences with peers across the spectrum is vital for fostering both sustainability and transformation.

3. Contemplation and Action: A Rhythmic Balance

The conversation delves into Tyler Brinks’s deep appreciation for both contemplation and activism in spiritual life. Influenced by mentors and spiritual giants like Howard Thurman, he finds that reflective practices can catalyze change and engagement with the world (19:29). His running routine also becomes a spiritual exercise, a time for both clearing the mind and nurturing creativity—sometimes even composing sermons mid-stride (26:40). This balance of being grounded in worship and being propelled into compassionate action defines his pastoral approach.

Listen for thoughtful perspectives on ministry’s future and discover how hope, diversity, and spiritual rhythm can revitalize faith communities.

In this heartfelt "Because" episode of To Be and Do, Phil Amerson invites listeners into a brief meditation on perspective, hope, and resilience through the stories of two friends—Bob and Joe. Set against the everyday backdrop of coffee and morning rituals, Phil reflects on how these two characters embody different approaches to life’s challenges and offers personal insight on navigating the spectrum between complaint and hope.

Three Key Takeaways

1. Your Outlook Shapes Your Experience

The episode contrasts Bob, the habitual pessimist, and Joe, the resilient optimist. Despite facing difficult circumstances, Joe maintains his "sparkle," holding onto hope even in the face of adversity. Phil describes how Bob met each Sunday morning with complaint and negativity, making it clear that focusing on the negative can become a pattern that colors not only your life but the lives of those around you . In contrast, Joe, even after enduring criticism, hardship, and physical decline, refuses to let these things diminish his spirit . The message: We may not have control over what happens to us, but we do have a say in how we respond.

2. The Power of Intentionally Seeking Good News

Rather than letting Bob’s negativity take center stage every Sunday, Phil interrupts the routine by asking, "What good news do you have for me this week?" This simple, intentional question challenges the cycle of complaint and gently nudges toward a different perspective. The takeaway here is that we can intentionally create space for positivity in our conversations and relationships, shifting focus from what’s wrong to what’s good—even when it feels unnatural or surprising.

3. Sparkle in the Face of Adversity

Joe’s story serves as an embodiment of resilience and hope. Even as a bishop subject to criticism and betrayal, and later physically limited, Joe "sparkled" , demonstrating that hope and joy aren’t naive—they are powerful acts of courage. Drawing on Emily Dickinson’s poem, "Hope is the thing with feathers," Phil reminds listeners that hope is always present if we choose to notice. The closing reflection and reference to the gospel song "Leave it There" invite us all to work on sparkling, to lay down our burdens, and embrace a spirit of gratitude and grace, regardless of our circumstances.

Whether you find yourself more like Bob or Joe, this episode encourages you to reclaim your outlook, seek out good news intentionally, and strive to "sparkle" even on tough days.

In this compelling episode of the To Be and Do podcast, host Phil Amerson welcomes Tim Soerens, executive director of the Parish Collective, for an enriching conversation about what it means to be the church in the neighborhood and how that impacts both individual lives and communities. Listeners are taken on a journey that weaves together stories of playful evangelism, real-life examples of neighborhood flourishing, and the deeper meaning of church as a connective force in society.

The episode opens with Amerson reflecting on Soerens’ writing in “The New Parish” and his more recent book, “Everywhere You Look.” Soerens explains the mission of the Parish Collective: to connect people who seek to be and become the church right where they live, emphasizing the importance of reorganizing church life around local relationships that actively pursue the well-being, or “shalom,” of their neighborhoods 01:09.

Conversation Highlights & Takeaways

1. The Power of Place-Based Faith
2. Soerens discusses how focusing on the neighborhood allows the church to ask, “What is God doing here and now, with these people?” rather than simply striving for bigger services or attendance numbers 12:58. This localized approach shifts the conversation from competition among churches to collaboration for the flourishing of the community.
3. Weak Ties and Neighborhood Cohesion
4. The discussion delves into the social science of “weak ties” or “bridging relationships.” Speaker A and Soerens recount how simple, repeated encounters—like seeing a neighbor at the grocery store—can gradually foster connective tissue in a community 16:55. This relational glue is essential for lasting change.
5. Leadership as Convening, Not Controlling
6. The role of leadership is reimagined as “convening” rather than commanding. Drawing on insights from Peter Block and John McKnight, Soerens highlights the radical impact of leaders who focus on connecting people, rather than simply leading them 24:46.
7. The Unique Role of the Church in Society
8. Soerens argues the church, unlike any other institution, is uniquely positioned to serve as the connective tissue among different sectors—business, education, politics, and more—bringing neighbors together for the common good 14:50.

Whether you’re a pastor, layperson, or someone who simply cares about the place you call home, this episode is full of ideas and stories to help you “be and do” in ways that can transform your own neighborhood, one connection at a time.

In this reflective "Because" episode of To Be and Do, Phil Amerson revisits a pivotal period serving as pastor at Broadway United Methodist Church in Indianapolis, sharing personal anecdotes and hard-earned wisdom about building a truly welcoming church community. Weaving together Biblical references, personal stories, and social observations, the episode confronts the realities and aspirations involved in embracing multiculturalism—both in faith communities and society at large.

Key Themes

1. The Challenge and Commitment of Multicultural Community

Phil highlights the ambitious and intentional mission statement adopted by Broadway United Methodist Church in 1986: to become a multicultural Christian community that seeks, welcomes, and values all people. This brings out a theme of aspiration versus lived reality. Despite admitting their naivety in striving for such ideals celebrates the commitment to inclusivity that has endured for 40 years , even as the community grappled with hard lessons and social challenges.

2. Confronting the Power of Fear and Tribalism

The episode does not shy away from acknowledging the forces that undermine multicultural efforts. Speaker B discusses how tribalism, fear, and resentment have historically eroded goodwill—not just within their church, but across society and global alliances . In one vivid example , manifestations of discrimination and bigotry are likened to masked ICE agents in urban America, underscoring the persistent threats to genuine inclusion. Yet, the congregation’s mission remains a countercultural witness to God’s love for all neighbors .

3. The Enduring Value of Hope and Long-Term Faithfulness

Despite setbacks and societal cynicism, Phil questions whether such aspirations are truly naive. Drawing from the teachings of Paul and referencing Eugene Peterson’s phrase, “a long obedience in the same direction” , the episode encourages listeners to persist in the slow work of building loving, inclusive communities. The ultimate message is not to lose hope or retreat into isolation, but to keep striving for the reality of God’s kingdom on earth.

Notable Quotes

• “The gift of knowing others who differed in a community of acceptance could never be erased.” (03:40)
• “Stay at it, good friends. Don’t get stuck in privatism or self pity.” (04:29)

Tune in for a thoughtful meditation on faith, community, and the courage required to love beyond boundaries.

Three Major Takeaways

1. Asset-Based Community Development and Neighborhood Focus
2. The conversation begins by honoring John McKnight and his foundational work in asset-based community development (01:26). Tim shares how McKnight’s belief in uncovering ordinary gifts within every neighborhood profoundly shapes his approach to ministry. Rather than focusing solely on decline or challenges, the episode emphasizes that each community possesses a “multiplicity of gifts” (03:04), ordinary heroes, and untold stories waiting to be discovered and celebrated.
3. Rethinking the Purpose and Model of Church
4. Both speakers reflect on the end of Christendom and the necessity to reimagine what church means today (10:24). Tim discusses his journey: moving from an attractional Sunday-centric model to an incarnational, place-based approach — highlighting the Parish Collective’s core question: “How do we be and become the church in our everyday lives through relationships, pursuing the hopes and dreams of God?” (09:26). They underscore the importance of clarity about the church’s purpose, noting how many institutions (like libraries) have clear functions, whereas the church’s purpose is often ambiguous (14:37).
5. Hope, Joy, and the Necessity of Slowing Down
6. The episode closes with practical wisdom for today’s pastoral leaders. Tim emphasizes that hope springs from asking “What is God up to here?”, a question that transforms perspectives and inspires even in ordinary moments (15:36). He connects this to the search for joy, suggesting it often emerges when leaders slow down, listen deeply, and share meaningfully with others (17:45). The importance of retreat, rest, and interdependence is echoed — reminders that hope and joy are as essential as oxygen in today’s fast-paced world.

Listen in for a timely, thoughtful exploration of what it means to be the church, recover joy, and discover hope in every place and relationship.

In this reflective episode of To Be and Do, the theme of living on the edge—spiritually, emotionally, and within our conflicted world—takes center stage. , Phil Amerson, invites listeners to pause for a meditative moment, weaving together poetry and poignant observations to spark contemplation about faith, paradox, and the spaces we inhabit.

The episode opens with a gentle scene: the clock strikes ten, signaling coffee time—a recurring motif reminding us of the simple, comforting rituals that anchor our days 00:01. But as the aroma of coffee wafts through the air, there’s an awareness that the outside world rushes toward its own “judgment day,” a subtle prompt for listeners to consider both the gravity and moments of grace in daily life.

Phil Amerson, recognizing the transformative power of poetry, shares verses that linger and provoke. He introduces “The Wanderer” by Walter Wangren Jr., a Lutheran pastor and dear friend. The poem reflects on the experience of being a “world rim Walker,” traversing the precipices between night and day, certainty and doubt 00:54. Amerson’s reminiscence about Wangren’s life and the continuing relevance of his work adds a layer of intimacy, bridging the personal and the universal 01:38.

The journey continues with a poem from Christian Wiman, “Hard Night,” capturing the stark landscapes of desert and ice, and questioning the “space between” affirming that our existence unfolds in the paradox—the uncertainty and possibility suspended in those in-between places.

Drawing from current events, Amerson reflects on the crises facing humanity: wars of choice, the devastation in Gaza, Lebanon, Somalia, and Ukraine . Despite this, the message is one of resilience and hope. “We are the walkers at the edge,” he concludes, urging us to live with integrity and intentionality: to “be a person who does what you believe and believes what you do” .

Key Takeaways

1. Reflection Through Poetry: Poetry can provide a valuable mirror for the complexities of life, offering calm contemplation in the face of chaos.
2. Embracing Paradox: Life often unfolds in the liminal spaces between extremes—night and day, faith and doubt, war and peace.
3. Witnessing and Compassion: Acknowledging the suffering in the world stimulates a compassionate response and encourages us to walk thoughtfully and bravely.
4. Living Authentically: There is power in aligning our actions with our beliefs, serving as “edge walkers” who navigate uncertainty with integrity.
5. Everyday Rituals as Anchors: Simple moments—like coffee time—can ground us and create connection, even amidst turmoil

As the episode closes, the invitation remains: pour a cup, sit with an old friend, and live each day with love and laughter.

Key Takeaways:

1. Soul Care through Walking and Pilgrimage:
2. Rachel Metheny shares how walking and hiking have become vital practices for her sanity and spiritual renewal. She recounts preparing for a group pilgrimage on the El Camino in Spain, reflecting on previous hiking adventures—from Machu Picchu to a 9-day trek in the Dolomites—emphasizing the restorative power of physical challenge and nature. These activities help her get out of her head, push boundaries, and reflect on life’s beauty.
3. Sports and Joy as Spiritual Practice:
4. Rooted in Indiana culture, sports like IU football and basketball provide Rachel Metheny with a joyful respite from the negativity saturating news cycles. She describes intentionally fostering an environment of joy and gratitude within her church, recognizing the therapeutic impact of focusing on what brings happiness and what can be celebrated, especially in worship.
5. Family and Community as Anchors:
6. When asked about meaningful objects, Rachel Metheny points to her family as her true “totem.” She speaks lovingly of their unwavering support—her parents have attended every church she’s served—and how their lessons in joy and community shaped her spirit. This emphasis on connection highlights the podcast’s central theme of interdependence over mere independence.
7. Real Stories of Immigration and Resilience:
8. Drawing from time spent in Guatemala and El Salvador, Rachel Metheny offers a personal lens on the realities faced by immigrants and refugees, explaining how those experiences inform her ministry and advocacy. She describes moments of fear and hope, both among her congregants and within families the church has supported through social service initiatives.
9. Redefining Church and Community:
10. The conversation explores what church truly means, moving past mere attendance to embrace wider spiritual and communal bonds. Both Phil Amerson and Rachel Metheny argue that the heart of church is in shared experiences and relationships—not just buildings or Sunday services—invoking powerful imagery of starting afresh with “a table, a loaf of bread, and a bottle of wine.”

Summary:

This episode is a testament to the everyday practices that sustain spiritual leaders, the importance of joy and gratitude, and the power of shared journeys—literal and metaphorical. It also invites listeners to rethink church and community as vibrant, living networks of support and hope.

Tune in for inspiration, practical wisdom, and heartfelt stories that remind us to celebrate what brings us joy, lean into community, and never underestimate the healing power of a good walk.

However, Phillip Amerson challenges the notion that the church’s diminishing numbers are the only story to tell. While acknowledging the accuracy of demographic shifts—such as smaller families and decreasing need for expansive education buildings, a trend that began in the post-war era—he asserts that data doesn’t capture the true essence of what makes faith communities meaningful. Rather than seeing religion as a commodity to be measured, Phillip Amerson urges listeners to view it as a community to be built and nurtured.

He highlights examples of congregations across the country, including one attended by his producer, Brad Miller, where growth might be modest but the ministry and sense of hope remain vibrant. The core message is that faith is best understood not in numbers, but in relationships and the transformative power of community. He invokes the biblical narrative, referencing Paul, John, and Peter, to underscore the importance of offering the intangible gifts—faith, love, and transformation—that Christ offers.

Key Takeaways:

1. Decline Isn’t the Whole Story: While mainline churches are facing real demographic challenges, this decline doesn’t mean the end of meaningful ministry. Many faith communities continue to thrive in non-traditional ways.
2. Faith as Community, Not Commodity: Phillip Amerson emphasizes that true faith can’t be measured solely by numbers; it’s about the strength and nurture of community, where each member is valued.
3. Hope and Growth Persist: Even in places where attendance is shrinking, ministry and hope abound. Small, slow growth is vital and transformative.
4. Offer What Matters: The real gifts a congregation can offer are not material wealth, but faith, love, and support—the essence of the Gospel message.

Listeners are encouraged to seek, nurture, and participate in communities that prioritize offering these gifts, reminding us that the church’s mission is ultimately about transformation, not statistics.

Host: Phil Amerson

Guest: Rachel Metheny, Lead Pastor at Meridian Street United Methodist Church, Indianapolis

Episode Overview:

In this thoughtful and energizing episode, Phil Amerson sits down with longtime friend and colleague Rachel Metheny, lead pastor of Meridian Street United Methodist Church in Indianapolis. Their conversation delves deeply into what it means for churches—and church leaders—to be relevant, vibrant, and true to their mission in a time of rapid cultural and societal change. From the unique struggles facing aging congregations to the surprising resurgence of young families and the craving for authentic community, Rachel Metheny shares stories and insights from her decades in ministry.

Three Key Takeaways:

1. The Power of Tradition Mixed with Relevance

Despite national trends of declining church attendance, Rachel Metheny has witnessed new growth at Meridian Street—especially among younger families. Interestingly, what draws many is not “cool” trends or high-tech worship but rather traditional liturgy and music peppered with honest conversation about relevant issues. Young people expressed appreciation for a worship space that resists screens and bands in favor of classic practices, finding security in ritual while engaging candidly with modern challenges. As Rachel Metheny observes, community members welcomed traditional worship complemented by discussions on justice, inclusion, and contemporary life concerns.

2. Community and Connection Trump the Latest Church Trends

Both speakers reflect on the irony of churches chasing ever-newer strategies—program trends, entertainment, sports leagues—when the true lifeblood of congregational renewal is community. Rachel Metheny shares, “I think there’s a hunger for these young people to be a part of a community... just getting together and eating together.” The simplest acts—sharing meals, supporting one another, showing up—fuel deeper bonds and a spiritual home for many who feel isolated in an increasingly digital world.

3. A Shift from Charity to Justice

A new wave of leaders and congregants, especially among young adults, are less interested in traditional “charity” models and more passionate about systemic justice. Rachel Metheny describes how the congregation responded to national immigration issues, organizing not just to give but to act for change. This move toward direct justice work, catalyzed by new, energetic members, reflects a broader generational shift in what it means to live out faith in the world.

This episode is a compelling listen for anyone interested in the evolving landscape of faith, community, and what makes church truly matter today. Tune in to hear authentic dialogue, wisdom from years in ministry, and hope for the church’s future.

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This "Because" episode of "To Be and Do" features Phil Amerson as he shares deeply personal reflections on life, faith, and ministry in the context of responding to challenging events—both locally and nationally. Drawing on memories of ICE raids in Minneapolis and historical tragedies at Kent State and Jackson State, Phil Amerson connects these large-scale events to a pivotal experience in Evansville, Indiana in the late 1980s, centered around a neighborhood’s encounter with the Ku Klux Klan. Through heartfelt storytelling, Phil explores how a faith community can respond thoughtfully and peacefully to hatred and fear.

Three Key Takeaways:

1. The Power of Listening to Unexpected Voices
2. One of the most impactful moments is when Stella—a neighbor not always regarded as wise—offers the suggestion that the best response to the Klan’s meeting is to attend, pray with those present, and help them reflect quietly. Contrary to more reactive ideas, her approach shifts the atmosphere from confrontation to compassion, demonstrating how powerful it can be to pause and listen to voices that might otherwise be overlooked.
3. Building Relationships and Changing Hearts
4. Instead of protesting loudly, Phil Amerson and his group chose to attend the Klan event, speak calmly, and even sing hymns. This approach led to genuine connections—eventually, Phil befriended one of the Klan members, who began coming to their worship services. Over time, this relationship helped shift the man’s perspective; a year later, he symbolically renounced violence and his Klan membership by placing his revolver and membership card in the offering plate. The story powerfully illustrates that empathy and presence can create openings for transformation in even the most unlikely situations.
5. Faith as a Path to Living Differently
6. The episode ends with a reminder that people of faith have the opportunity to live differently—by choosing love, hope, and gentle actions instead of responding to fear or hatred with anger. Phil Amerson's narrative encourages listeners to move beyond assumptions and embrace the courage to respond with quiet strength, affirming that relational ministry can lead to impactful change.

Tune in to hear how faith, listening, and relationship-building are not just concepts, but practical tools for confronting divisiveness and promoting healing. This episode is a moving story of how ordinary people can make a difference—even in the face of extraordinary challenges.

Takeaway 1: The Global Legacy of Methodist Missions

Philip Wingeier-Rayo shares captivating stories from his recent book, “John Wesley and Methodist Missions,” highlighting/logging the surprising roots of Methodism in the Caribbean before it gained a substantial foothold in the United States. Listeners will learn how laypeople, such as Nathaniel Gilbert in Antigua, played critical roles in starting societies across the Western Hemisphere—often before official missionaries set foot there. These mission stories underscore how Methodism spread via local initiative, community-building, and the courage to cross social boundaries.

Takeaway 2: Education as Core Methodist Identity

Education is woven through the DNA of the Methodist movement. Philip Wingeier-Rayo details how Methodists have established over 1,000 educational institutions worldwide, with a focus on serving underserved populations. The conversation touches on the enduring legacy of Methodist colleges, including historically Black colleges in the U.S. and community-focused schools like Lydia Patterson Institute near the U.S.-Mexico border. Their commitment to accessibility and opportunity, he notes, goes all the way back to John Wesley’s earliest days at Oxford. Methodist efforts in education aren’t just historic—they’re still actively building bridges for students everywhere.

Takeaway 3: DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion)—Not a Trend, but a Tradition

While DEI has recently become a politically charged term, the conversation reveals how diversity, equity, and inclusion are not new concepts for Methodists. Philip Wingeier-Rayo points out that Methodist institutions have championed diversity and equal opportunity since their founding, driven by the belief that all are created in God’s image and worthy of full participation in church and society. Even as universities cut back on official DEI programming, United Methodist campus ministries and chaplaincies are increasingly stepping up to provide safe, welcoming, and inclusive spaces for students from all backgrounds.

Don’t miss this episode if you’re interested in the intersection of faith, history, education, and justice—or if you want to hear stories that inspire and empower. Make sure to check out Philip Wingeier-Rayo ’s book for an even deeper exploration tenets of Methodist missions.

John Wesley and the Origins of Methodist Missions, Nashville: Abingdon Press, 2025.

Listen now and join the movement to live out your faith by being and doing good in the world!

Philip Wingeier-Rayo serves as Executive Director of Education for the General Board of Higher Education & Ministry of the United Methodist Church. He is also Visiting Professor of Missiology, World Christianity, and Methodist Studies at Wesley, where he teaches courses in mission and evangelism, world Christianity, and Methodist history and doctrine. He served as Dean at Wesley from 2018-2022. Wingeier-Rayo was born in Singapore to missionary parents and grew up in Evanston, Illinois. He earned a double major in Human Relations and Spanish from Earlham College, a M.T.S. from Garrett-Evangelical Theological Seminary, and a M.Th. from Seminario Evangélico de Teología in Cuba before earning a Ph.D. in Theology, Ethics and Culture from Chicago Theological Seminary. His teaching and scholarship is informed by 15 years of missionary service where he served with the General Board of Global Ministries in Nicaragua, Cuba, Mexico and the Rio Grande Valley in south Texas. Wingeier-Rayo has published five books, including Where are the Poor? A Comparison of the Ecclesial Base Communities and Pentecostalism—A Case Study in Cuernavaca, Mexico (Pickwick Publications, 2011) and The Bible Through the Eyes of John Wesley (Upper Room/Discipleship Resources, 2019). His most recent publication is John Wesley and the Origins of Methodist Missions (Abingdon Press, 2025). Wingeier-Rayo and his wife, Diana, reside outside of Washington DC and have three adult children and one son-in-law.

Books:

John Wesley and the Origins of Methodist Missions, Nashville: Abingdon Press, 2025.

La Evangelización y la Misión de Dios: Una Teología Bíblica, Nashville, TN: Wesley’s Foundery Books.

2020.

La Biblia a través de los ojos de Juan Wesley: 52 clases de discipulado para pequeños grupos, with

foreword by Justo González, Nashville, TN: Upper Room, 2019.

Where are the Poor? A Comparison of the Ecclesial Base Communities and Pentecostalism—A Case

Study in Cuernavaca, Mexico, Eugene, OR: Pickwick Publications, 2011.

Cuban Methodism: The Untold Story of Survival and Revival, Atlanta, GA: Dolphins and Orchids,

2006.

The episode opens with Philip Amerson expressing dismay at the “overfunding and overindulgence” of Homeland Security and ICE. He questions why ICE agents are often held to different standards than local police, highlighting issues like anonymity (such as covering faces), lack of body cameras, and absence of identification during enforcement actions. He argues that accountability and transparency should be the minimum expectation for such authorities.

Philip Amerson shares sobering stories about ICE’s actions toward faith communities, recounting how agents have detained individuals leaving church and even desecrated sacraments during protests outside detention centers. These narratives, notably involving Christians gathering near detention facilities, make clear his concern that such actions are not only an affront to individual rights but also a direct challenge to the moral and faith-based foundations of these communities.

Grounded in both scripture and the U.S. Constitution, Philip Amerson calls people of faith to action, especially during the reflective season of Lent. Referencing the biblical imperative to “love God and love your neighbor,” he encourages listeners to reject authoritarian behaviors in favor of compassion, justice, and faithful witness.

Key Takeaway Points:

1. Demand for Accountability: Philip Amerson stresses that ICE agents should be subject to the same standards as local law enforcement, including identification and transparency, as part of democratic accountability.
2. Impact on Faith Communities: The episode vividly details how recent ICE actions have directly targeted worshippers and faith-led protests, challenging listeners to stand up whenever sacred rites and human dignity are threatened.
3. Scriptural and Constitutional Grounds: Philip Amerson argues that both religious teachings and the U.S. Constitution demand more humane, transparent, and just practices from authorities.
4. A Call to Faithful Action: In the spirit of Lent, he urges Christians—and all people of faith—to live out their beliefs by actively resisting injustices and embodying love for both God and neighbor.

Join Philip Amerson for an episode that calls us beyond passive concern, stirring empathy and conviction on the pressing issues of justice, accountability, and faith in our public life.

Host: Philip Amerson

Guest: Philip Wingeier-Rayo

In this rich and insightful episode of the To Be and Do podcast, Philip Amerson sits down with noted missions scholar Philip Wingeier-Rayo , who brings his decades of experience as a professor at Wesley Seminary and work with the General Board of Higher Education and Ministry. The episode springs from Philip Wingeier-Rayo ’s new book, "John Wesley and the Origins of Methodist Missions," and takes listeners deep into the historical journey of Methodist missions—exploring how the global movement evolved from John Wesley’s origins to its worldwide presence today.

Here are three key takeaways from the conversation:

1. John Wesley’s Mission Legacy Is More Nuanced Than Many Realize

While John Wesley is credited as a founding missionary figure, Philip Wingeier-Rayo clarifies that Wesley’s role as a missionary was complex, even debated (02:52). During his time in Georgia, Wesley was technically called a missionary by others but did not accept a salary, nor did he self-identify with the title. His disappointing and challenging experience in Georgia shaped his later hesitance about engaging in missionary expansion, which influenced the ethos of early Methodism as initially more focused on renewal within the Anglican Church, rather than outward missionary zeal.

2. The Spread of Methodism Was Often Grassroots and Lay-Led

Contrary to popular belief, the explosive spread of Methodism in its early days wasn’t driven top-down by Wesley or denominational authorities. As Philip Wingeier-Rayo describes, laypeople who had caught the "fire" of Methodist faith carried it across oceans, founding societies and requesting support only after establishing local congregations (09:07). Wesley was hesitant and even declined several times to send clergy to support these fledgling communities, a testament to the organic, spirit-led nature of Methodist expansion.

3. Education and Experiential Faith Are Interwoven in the Methodist DNA

The Methodist tradition, shaped by Wesley’s experiences and Moravian influence, treasures both "knowledge and vital piety." Philip Wingeier-Rayo highlights compelling stories, such as that of Boston King—a formerly enslaved man who became a missionary in Africa due to Methodist educational efforts—to illustrate how the movement integrated heart and mind in spreading faith and social uplift (14:40). This holistic approach remains central to the Methodist ethos worldwide.

Listen in for a truly enlightening conversation about what it means to be and do as part of a global movement shaped by ordinary people, transformative faith, and education.

Philip Wingeier-Rayo serves as Executive Director of Education for the General Board of Higher Education & Ministry of the United Methodist Church. He is also Visiting Professor of Missiology, World Christianity, and Methodist Studies at Wesley, where he teaches courses in mission and evangelism, world Christianity, and Methodist history and doctrine. He served as Dean at Wesley from 2018-2022. Wingeier-Rayo was born in Singapore to missionary parents and grew up in Evanston, Illinois. He earned a double major in Human Relations and Spanish from Earlham College, a M.T.S. from Garrett-Evangelical Theological Seminary, and a M.Th. from Seminario Evangélico de Teología in Cuba before earning a Ph.D. in Theology, Ethics and Culture from Chicago Theological Seminary. His teaching and scholarship is informed by 15 years of missionary service where he served with the General Board of Global Ministries in Nicaragua, Cuba, Mexico and the Rio Grande Valley in south Texas. Wingeier-Rayo has published five books, including Where are the Poor? A Comparison of the Ecclesial Base Communities and Pentecostalism—A Case Study in Cuernavaca, Mexico (Pickwick Publications, 2011) and The Bible Through the Eyes of John Wesley (Upper Room/Discipleship Resources, 2019). His most recent publication is John Wesley and the Origins of Methodist Missions (Abingdon Press, 2025). Wingeier-Rayo and his wife, Diana, reside outside of Washington DC and have three adult children and one son-in-law.

Books:

John Wesley and the Origins of Methodist Missions, Nashville: Abingdon Press, 2025.

La Evangelización y la Misión de Dios: Una Teología Bíblica, Nashville, TN: Wesley’s Foundery Books.

2020.

La Biblia a través de los ojos de Juan Wesley: 52 clases de discipulado para pequeños grupos, with

foreword by Justo González, Nashville, TN: Upper Room, 2019.

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Study in Cuernavaca, Mexico, Eugene, OR: Pickwick Publications, 2011.

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Be sure to check out Philip Wingeier-Rayo 's new book for deeper insights and stay tuned for more inspiring episodes!

Here are three key takeaways from the episode:

1. Universities Aren’t the Sole Keepers of Morality

Philip Amerson explores Kang’s provocative assertion that universities have replaced the church as homes for liberal morality. He clarifies that “liberal” here refers not to politics, but to wide-mindedness and the ability to see the broader picture. Yet, he warns that universities may not be doing enough to truly shape morality, especially in ways that resonate beyond academia. Instead, the detachment from deeper ethical foundations, such as those taught by spiritual traditions, reveals a gap in how values are being passed on.

2. The Church’s Influence Is Alive and Vital

Referencing the often-exaggerated rumors about the church’s decline, Philip Amerson humorously nods to Mark Twain’s famous quip about the rumors of his death. He asserts that mainline, Catholic, and evangelical Christianity are far from lifeless, and that there's “plenty of wiggle in our life.” Faith communities remain active and resilient, offering crucial guidance and support to those seeking moral clarity in today’s uncertain environment.

3. Morality Needs Nurturing—Inside and Outside Institutions

Philip Amerson encourages listeners, especially during Lent, to nurture their spirits both individually and through participation in congregations or parishes. He stresses that our society needs a morality shaped not just by universities (which themselves face threats), but also by communities rooted in faith and the teachings of figures like Jesus of Nazareth. Universities can provide helpful tools and knowledge, but shouldn’t be trusted as the ultimate source of ethical guidance.

Final Thought:

This episode is a call to examine how we form our values, drawing from both educational and spiritual traditions. Philip Amerson reminds us that moral leadership is a shared responsibility—and that faith communities continue to play a crucial role for anyone seeking to live with integrity and purpose.

Tune in for thoughtful reflections on education, morality, and the ongoing impact of faith in society.

Three Key Takeaways from the Episode:

1. Theological Education is Evolving, but its Foundations Remain Vital

Bob Hill and Philip Amerson reminisce about their long involvement in theological education, noting the ever-shifting context and the valuable constancy of scriptural engagement. Bob Hill shares that despite changes in student demographics and interests, there remains a “fascination for the scripture and with and in the scripture.” Faculty at Boston University, both longstanding and new, bring energy and global perspectives, ensuring that students continue to wrestle with pivotal texts and ideas. The episode highlights the importance of not just academic study but also spiritual and pastoral formation for future church leaders.

2. The Gospel of John: Embracing Difference and Depth

A portion of the conversation dives into the uniqueness of the Gospel of John. Bob Hill reveals that the one word he wants his students to remember is “different,” emphasizing the Gospel's mysterious and multi-layered nature. Both speakers reflect on the many “twists and turns” in Johannine literature and encourage new and seasoned readers alike to remain open to the Gospel’s depths, rather than simply seeking quick summaries or easy conclusions. This approach, they argue, mirrors the complexity and wonder at the heart of faith.

3. Reclaiming the ‘Romance’ and Civic Power of Parish Ministry

The episode addresses changing attitudes toward parish ministry, as fewer students pursue traditional parish roles. Yet both Philip Amerson and Bob Hill make a compelling case for the privilege and beauty of local church leadership, describing it as an opportunity to “speak about what we don’t speak enough about in civil society.” They also highlight the role of clergy as “citizen advocates,” nurturing civil society and providing a grounding, hopeful voice in times of change and resistance. The conversation ends with an appreciation for poetry’s power to nourish the soul and sustain hope.

To Be and Do continues to offer thoughtful dialogue for those engaged in ministry, theological study, and the life of the church. This episode is rich with practical wisdom, inspiration, and a spirit of honest, hopeful inquiry.

In this short but meaningful “Because” episode, Phil Amerson invites listeners to reflect on the start of the Lenten season, centering the conversation on what it truly means to be in community, both within a local church and in our personal spiritual journeys. With heartfelt honesty, he shares his personal practices and previews engaging voices for upcoming episodes who will help deepen our understanding of parish life, preaching, and global missions.

Three Takeaways

1. Reimagining Lent and Parish Involvement

Phil Amerson opens up about the temptation many face to simply "watch church" at home and challenges us to engage more deeply with a local congregation or parish. He gently nudges listeners to consider their place within a faith community—not just as observers, but as participants actively involved in ministry and mutual support. This focus sets the tone for the Lenten season as an opportunity to return to foundational experiences of worship, preaching, and collective renewal.

2. Lent as a Time for Spiritual Reflection and Letting Go

A major theme of this episode is intentional reflection and the practice of letting go. Phil Amerson shares his own decision to step away from social media—deactivating his Facebook account—as an act of making space for prayer, reading, and rest. He encourages listeners to consider what they might “put down” during Lent, suggesting that the season is less about arbitrary self-denial and more about carving out time for what matters most: spiritual growth, a renewed relationship with God, and focusing on truly important things.

3. Embracing Grace and Moving Away from Performance-Based Theology

A powerful segment in the episode is Phil Amerson’s call to set aside “lousy theology” that centers on the idea of earning salvation. He reminds listeners that the core of Christian faith is recognizing that God’s love and acceptance are already present—not something to be achieved through our efforts. The real invitation, as Phil puts it, is to “live as if God loves us,” trusting in grace and turning toward renewal and transformation, both individually and as faith communities.

Coming Up Next:

Stay tuned for conversations with future guests, including Dr. Bob Hill (Dean, Marsh Chapel at Boston University), Philip Wengai Ruo (global missions author), Rachel Matheny (pastor at Meridian Street UMC), and Tim Sorens (Executive Director, Parish Collective). Their insights will deepen our exploration of what it means to be and do in faith, ministry, and beyond.

Thanks for listening to “To Be snd Do.” May this Lenten season inspire you to find your place—in church, community, and soul.

Hosts: Philip Amerson

Guest: Bob Hill

In this heartfelt episode of the To Be and Do Podcast, Philip Amerson welcomes Bob Hill, Dean of Marsh Chapel and Professor of New Testament and Pastoral Theology at Boston University School of Theology. The conversation is rich in warmth, humor, and insights, exploring the role of university chaplaincy, the state of mainline Christianity, and the vital importance of honest and hopeful preaching in today’s world.

We begin with light banter—Indiana University colors, snow in Bloomington, and the legacy of great preaching. Philip Amerson shares how he and his wife tune in to hear Bob Hill’s sermons, emphasizing the significant impact that thoughtful preaching has on their Sunday ritual. This sets the stage for a deep dive into the unique challenges and joys of serving as Dean at Marsh Chapel within a multi-faith university environment.

Key Takeaways:

1. The Power of Consistent Preaching:
2. Bob Hill underscores how essential the weekly act of preaching is—a “fine sermon, 22 minutes of hope and honesty,” delivered every seven days, can be transformative for both the preacher and the congregation. He encourages preachers to find strength in this rhythm, knowing their quiet, steady work is deeply valued.
3. Community and Connection Matter:
4. Through a personal story about his sixth-grade teacher visiting him during a difficult time, Bob Hill reveals the restorative power of caring community. The episode reminds us that ministry isn’t just about Sunday sermons but about small acts of presence and kindness, especially around shared grief.
5. Challenges of Mainline Christianity:
6. The decline of mainline church membership and the shift toward management—rather than genuine community—is discussed. Both Philip Amerson and Bob Hill reflect on how excellence in preaching and authentic connection can help restore hope in these traditions.
7. Honesty and Hope in the Pulpit:
8. In a time marked by political and cultural challenges, Bob Hill shares his commitment to combining “brutal honesty” about societal realities with “unflinching hope” in his sermons. He acknowledges the tension between these values but insists the church must hold them in balance.

As the episode wraps, listeners are invited to join Marsh Chapel’s services online, especially if they find themselves snowed in or searching for a word of hope. The episode stands as a testament to the enduring significance of faith, preaching, and community—and the voices who keep these alive.

Links to Bob Hill’s books and work will be shared on the podcast blog.

In this heartfelt "Because" episode of "To Be and Do," Philip Amerson explores the current reality of the American church, drawing insights from books and sociological perspectives while offering a message of hope. The conversation is anchored by reflections on Ryan Burge's newest book, The Vanishing Church, and the shifting role of faith communities in today's society.

Episode Summary:

Philip Amerson opens by sharing two books that have been making an impact in discussions around faith in America—Separation of Church and Hate by John Fugelsang and The Vanishing Church by Ryan Burge. He dives deeper into Burge's analysis, bringing his own critique and optimism to the conversation. While acknowledging the decline in mainline churches and reflecting on changes since the mid-20th century, Philip Amerson offers a counter-narrative grounded in the ongoing, meaningful work of congregations nationwide.

Three Key Takeaways:

1. Changing Demographics Shaped Church Growth and Decline
2. Philip Amerson points out that the rise and fall of mainline church attendance is strongly tied to broader sociological shifts. After World War II, churches flourished due to larger families and increased community focus (01:44). But as family sizes shrank in subsequent decades, the physical and social structures of churches had to adapt—highlighting the importance of context in understanding religious trends.
3. Faith Communities Are More Than Commodities
4. Challenging the tendency to measure church health only through numbers, Philip Amerson urges listeners to see faith as a community to be built rather than a commodity to be counted (02:29). He stresses that the deep, transformative work of congregations isn’t always captured by statistics, and that real growth and hope exist in places where faith is nurtured as a communal experience.
5. A Message of Hope: Slow Growth, Deep Impact
6. Despite data showing decline, Philip Amerson believes there are many churches quietly thriving through small, steady steps. He references the ministry of Rev. Dr. Brad Miller and other congregations as examples of hope and meaningful change (02:43). The episode closes with a reminder that what churches offer—faith, love, and transformation—cannot be measured in gold or silver, but in the value they bring to lives and communities.

Tune in for an uplifting exploration of the complexities facing today’s church, a critical look at statistical analyses, and encouraging stories of faith in action.

The episode dives headlong into the unsettling reality of frequent immigration law changes. Christie Popp points out that nearly 600 modifications to the immigration system have occurred in just over a year, particularly impacting asylum seekers and immigration courts. She highlights how these changes, rarely covered in-depth by mainstream media, are shifting the "rules of the game" even as vulnerable individuals' cases are pending, creating both logistical hurdles and a culture of fear.

A significant portion of the conversation centers on the particular struggles of Afghans, many of whom were allies to U.S. forces and entered the country through both formal and perilous, unofficial routes. Christie Popp details how these individuals—once celebrated—are now viewed with suspicion. Their cases, along with others, are subject to delays and retroactive review, subjecting them to potential loss of status and deportation on tenuous grounds—often for actions they had no real choice but to take.

The discussion broadens to address the chilling effect these policies have on free speech and public protest, especially among immigrants, academics, and their allies. The fear of being detained or targeted for voicing dissent is stifling civic engagement, even among those who are U.S. citizens. Both Philip Amerson and Christie Popp reflect on why these authoritarian patterns haven't sparked more outcry from the public and government leaders.

Despite the weighty subject matter, Christie Popp offers ways to take meaningful action—supporting local organizations, contacting representatives, and lending both time and resources are all encouraged. She also shares her personal strategies for maintaining resilience and hope in such difficult work.

Key Takeaways:

1. Constantly Shifting Laws: The immigration system is changing at an unprecedented pace, making asylum increasingly inaccessible and causing confusion for both immigrants and advocates.
2. Afghan Allies at Risk: Many Afghan asylum seekers, previously welcomed as allies, now face suspicion, paused applications, and retrospective investigations that could result in deportation.
3. Chilling Effect on Free Speech: Fear of detention or deportation is silencing many immigrants and their allies, undermining not only immigrant rights but also America's broader democratic ideals.
4. How to Help: Local and national organizations need support more than ever, and individual advocacy—through donations, volunteering, or political engagement—can have a significant impact.
5. Staying Resilient:
6. Christie Popp
7. emphasizes the importance of self-care and community, encouraging listeners to seek sources of hope and to care for themselves as they work for justice.

This episode is a vital listen for anyone concerned about the state of immigration, human rights, and democracy in the United States.

https://poppbullman.com/christie-popp/contact-christie/

Three Key Takeaways:

1. Gentle Resistance Can Bring Peace:
2. Instead of protesting the Klan’s meeting using loud opposition, the faith group opted for Stella’s simple yet profound suggestion: attend the meeting, pray with people, and respond in quiet kindness. This approach, driven by empathy and faith, diffused tensions in the sanctuary and allowed attendees to see one another more clearly—reminding us that sometimes, the most transformative action is the calmest.
3. Relationships Transform Lives:
4. After reaching out and building relationships—even with those involved in hate groups—Philip Amerson witnessed the power of connection. Inspired by advice from Will Campbell to learn the names of Klan members and treat them as individuals, Philip Amerson eventually saw a young Klan member become a regular attendee at worship. The act of acceptance and understanding paved the way for unexpected transformation.
5. Faith in Action Means Living Differently:
6. The story reaches its emotional climax when the young man drops his revolver and Klan membership card into the offering plate—a symbol of profound personal change. This powerful moment underscores Philip Amerson’s central message: as people of faith, we are called to live differently, building bridges through compassion, prayer, and hope. Small acts of kindness can not only defuse hate but invite healing and redemption.

Memorable Quotes:

1. “Sometimes the message we share is one that is built around building a relationship and touching people gently and quietly…”
2. “God bless you, just because we have the opportunity to live differently as people of faith.”

Tune in for this heartfelt narrative exploring the subtle strength of faith and the capacity for redemption in every human encounter.

In this eye-opening episode of the To Be and Do podcast, hosts Philip Amerson and Phil Emerson sit down with attorney Christie Popp, a founding partner at Popp and Bullman Law Offices, to demystify the realities of immigration law and its intersection with current U.S. judicial practices. Christie Popp offers a candid, accessible overview of how immigration enforcement really works and the everyday injustices faced by immigrants—especially in Indiana and the broader United States. Whether you’re new to these topics or seeking a deeper understanding, this conversation sheds light on critical, often-misunderstood issues within our legal system.

Three Major Takeaways

1. The True Nature of ICE and Immigration Enforcement

Christie Popp breaks down the role of ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement), clarifying that—contrary to common public perception—most immigration violations are civil, not criminal offenses. ICE operates differently from standard law enforcement: they don’t require a judge’s warrant to detain someone suspected of an immigration violation. Instead, a supervising ICE official alone can authorize an arrest, a stark departure from the checks and balances traditional police must follow. This gray area results in practices that skirt constitutional protections and often target individuals based on ethnicity or language.

2. The Problem with Immigration Holds and Local Enforcement

The conversation delves into how local jails interact with ICE through what are called “immigration holds.” Christie Popp underscores that ICE can request local jails to detain individuals—who have already been cleared for release—for up to 48 hours purely on suspicion of a civil immigration violation. This practice leads to unconstitutional detention for civil (not criminal) reasons, trapping many non-violent individuals, often arrested for minor infractions like driving without a license, in a complicated legal web. The system is deeply flawed, as it penalizes people on civil grounds and disproportionately affects Latino communities.

3. Economic Hardships Within the Detention System

Beyond legal injustices, Christie Popp highlights the pervasive economic burdens placed on detained individuals. Many face exorbitant fees for basic necessities—such as phone calls or commissary items—in jail, and those in immigration detention centers often perform mandatory labor despite having committed no crime. These policies not only capitalize on vulnerable populations but also underscore how the criminal and immigration systems have become increasingly punitive, even toward those who are simply seeking a better life.

Key Quote:

“ICE is really supposed to be a civil enforcement agency; they don’t get warrants from the court... The only person who is signing off on the arrest is a supervising official within the agency.” — Christie Popp

Further Resources:

Check the episode’s website for additional materials and YouTube links referenced by Philip Amerson and Christie Popp.

Don’t miss this essential listen if you want to better understand the complexities of immigration law and the often-unseen obstacles faced by immigrants in America today.

https://poppbullman.com/christie-popp/contact-christie/

After opening with a charming story of conversing with statues on the campus of Indiana University, Philip Amerson pivots to a powerful question he’s asked others: “What brings you joy?” This moment sets the tone for the episode, prompting Mark Feldmeir to distinguish between happiness—a fleeting, circumstantial feeling—and joy, which he sees as enduring and deeply rooted in meaningful service.

The journey of the episode travels through stories of "good tired," the type of exhaustion that comes from giving oneself to a purpose larger than the self. Mark Feldmeier shares a vivid memory from a mission trip, where circumstances were less than ideal, yet the experience of serving and persevering fostered an unshakable sense of joy. This leads to a broader reflection on the "tug between joy and exhaustion" that defines much of modern life, especially for those in calling-centered work.

Mark's reading habits offer another window into his approach to growth and inspiration. He discusses maintaining a robust reading practice—even through demanding seasons—and credits mentors and writers for shaping his preaching and language. This episode pays homage to the power of words, poetry, and stories to form us, both in the pulpit and in everyday life.

Near the close, listeners are offered a glimpse into the objects that keep Mark Feldmeier grounded: a labyrinth coaster reminding him that the journey is more important than the endpoint, and a Camino tile symbolizing trust in the next step rather than the entire plan—a perfect metaphor for faith and life.

Key Takeaways:

1. Joy transcends circumstances: Rather than fleeting happiness, lasting joy often emerges from connecting our sense of purpose with service to others.
2. Service and calling sustain us: Even during exhaustion and adversity, being rooted in a mission larger than ourselves offers resilience and hope.
3. Reading shapes language and leadership: Ongoing learning and exposure to great literature deepen the artistry and effectiveness of communication, whether in sermons or in daily life.
4. Symbols help orient our journey: Objects or reminders—a labyrinth, a Camino tile—can anchor us and illustrate that the journey itself is formative.
5. Find meaning in the journey: We don’t need to know every step of the path; faithfully taking the next turn can be enough for progress and growth.

This thoughtful exchange is both grounding and uplifting, inviting listeners to reflect on where joy comes from, how to serve with purpose, and how to walk the journey of faith and life with authenticity and hope.

For more conversations like this, subscribe to To Be and Do and join us on the journey of becoming and doing with joy.

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Philip Amerson opens with heartfelt acknowledgment of pastors—those performing "heavy lifting work" that often goes unseen and underappreciated. He describes clergy as "first responders" in their communities, present at moments of crisis before official authorities: in hospitals, homes, and places of pain or transition. Drawing from personal experience, Philip Amerson observes that, while pastors are constantly offered courses and resources to "improve" their leadership, the core need for many is simply encouragement and collegial support.

A significant point in the episode is Philip Amerson’s critique of contemporary denominational life, specifically within United Methodism. He laments the shift away from networks of mutual support and toward models that inadvertently foster competition—measuring success by church growth and flashy programs rather than by compassionate ministry and care for one another.

As a remedy, Philip Amerson extends a personal invitation to pastors seeking renewal and meaningful connections. He highlights the upcoming We Belong Retreat, a unique three-day gathering in New Harmony, Indiana, designed for pastors and faith leaders to experience true belonging and re-energize for their ministry. The retreat, scheduled for April 13–16, 2026, is offered free of charge for invited guests and promises a supportive environment centered on rest, community, and affirmation.

Key Takeaways:

1. Pastors are “first responders” for emotional, spiritual, and communal crises, sometimes arriving before medical or law enforcement professionals.
2. Faith leaders need encouragement and connection more than constant advice to “improve”—sometimes a simple thank you goes a long way.
3. Denominations have moved away from fostering collegiality and now often pit pastors against one another, focusing on growth and programming over relationship.
4. Opportunities like the “We Belong Retreat” can provide much-needed spaces for rest, renewal, and authentic connection among clergy.
5. Listeners are encouraged to share this invitation with pastors who might benefit and reach out directly to
6. Philip Amerson. philip.amerson@gmail.com
7. for more information.
8. If you know a faith leader who could use a boost of support, or you’re curious about how meaningful connections can transform ministry, this episode is a warm reminder of the enduring importance of community. Reach out to Philip Amerson or pass along the details—let’s help our faith leaders be renewed and well cared for.

philip.amerson@gmail.com

Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s legacy and the courageous act of Rosa Parks inspire this reflective episode of the To Be snd Do podcast, hosted by Philip Amerson. Titled “Because Moments,” this brief yet potent segment dives into themes of civil rights, nonviolent resistance, and the ongoing struggle against society’s “triple evils”: racism, poverty, and militarism. Through historical context and heartfelt storytelling, Philip Amerson calls listeners to action, reminding us of the enduring power found in collective resistance, wisdom, and love.

Key Takeaways:

1. Dr. King’s ‘Triple Evils’ Remain Interconnected Barriers

Philip Amerson revisits Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.’s pivotal address at Riverside Church, which identified racism, poverty, and militarism as the “triple evils” of society. These interconnected issues still shape our communities, standing as formidable obstacles to achieving the “beloved community” where all belong. The episode invites listeners to reflect on how these evils show up today and emphasizes the need for comprehensive responses rooted in justice and compassion.

2. Rosa Parks’ Dignified Defiance Demonstrates Collective Power

The story of Rosa Parks is recounted — not as an isolated moment, but as a catalyst for mass movement. When Parks calmly resisted segregation by asserting, “you may do that,” she shifted the power dynamic via her words and stance. Philip Amerson highlights that she was not alone; her action symbolically carried the strength of her ancestors and was supported by thousands who joined her in defiance. This moment of nonviolent resistance points to the power individuals have when they act in concert with community and history.

3. Nonviolent, Loving Resistance Is Needed Today

Connecting past struggles to current realities, Philip Amerson addresses the ongoing challenges of militarization and brutality, especially at borders and within marginalized communities. He calls listeners to peaceful resistance, inspired by the legacy of Parks and Dr. King—urging us to “stand, and as we’re standing, gently say, ‘you may do that, but we’re not going to follow this nonsense any longer.’” The episode encourages building a beloved community through nonviolent, loving action rooted in solidarity.

Closing Thoughts:

Philip Amerson ends with a blessing and a reminder: each listener is part of God’s beloved community. As we honor those who came before us, we’re called to keep resisting injustice—together, with steadfast love and dignity.

Three Key Takeaways

1. The Tragedy of Unjust Violence and Its Chilling Familiarity

Philip Amerson opens by recounting the killing of Alex Jeffrey Pretti, emphasizing the senselessness and horror that surrounds the event. The choice to help others, as Pretti did, should never carry the risk of violence, yet this episode laments that “something about this is emotionally familiar.” The host links this sadness and outrage to his memories of the Kent State shootings, suggesting that our society remains haunted by cycles of violence against protest and compassionate action.

2. The Value of Loving, Difficult Conversations

A moving portion of the episode describes Philip Amerson’s late-night conversation with his father following Kent State. Though they didn’t persuade one another to change sides, it was the act of staying up, sharing vulnerability and grief, that mattered most. This reflection is a call for connection over confrontation—a plea for more “all night stay ups” to overcome what he calls “this new ice age” of alienation and divisiveness.

3. Hope in Peacemaking and Shared Humanity

The episode closes on a note of hope, drawing on the Beatitudes, “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be known as the children of God.” Citing theologian Walter Brueggemann, Philip Amerson sets an intention for the future: to seek peace, find common ground, and believe in the possibility of reconciliation, even as we acknowledge the depth of our losses.

Summary

Through personal memory and public tragedy, Philip Amerson weaves a narrative of heartbreak, empathy, and hope. This episode invites listeners to engage in difficult conversations, to recognize familiar patterns of injustice, and to recommit themselves to the work of peacemaking in everyday life. In times that seem frozen in conflict, faith in dialogue and humanity lights the way forward.

Mark Feldmeir, known for his insightful preaching and recently published book “Life After Finding Faith, When You Can't Believe Anymore,” shares honest reflections on faith’s deconstruction and reconstruction, the responsibilities of pastoral leadership, and how churches can become beacons of healing for hurting communities.

Three Takeaways:

1. Deconstruction as a Journey, Not a Threat Mark Feldmeir challenges the negative perceptions surrounding faith deconstruction, reframing it as a necessary process for authentic belief. He unpacks how generational images of God—sometimes inherited from classical theology and tainted by concepts of divine aloofness or authoritarianism—can stifle authentic spiritual growth. By reimagining God through more relational, persuasive images, individuals and congregations can find new ways to engage faith meaningfully in a modern world that desperately needs it.

2. Preaching in a Changing World The conversation addresses the evolving nature of preaching in the 21st century—the tension between tradition and innovation. While Mark Feldmeir acknowledges the growing influence of new media and creative formats, he argues that preaching’s “incarnational” quality—showing up, telling the stories, and holding the real-life experiences of congregants—is irreplaceable. Even when sermons take new forms, the fundamental need for honest, present, and dialogical preaching remains as essential as ever.

3. Pastoral Leadership Beyond the Pulpit Perhaps most movingly, Mark Feldmeir describes the importance of pastoral presence during times of communal trauma, like school shootings. The role expands far beyond Sunday sermons—it means being a visible, reliable source of comfort, helping to organize tangible support, and creating safe spaces for healing. He shares firsthand stories from his own experience, including how St. Andrew became a hub for crisis response. In these pivotal moments, faith communities offer not just words, but the empowering gift of presence and belonging.

Don’t Miss:

1. Practical wisdom for anyone re-examining the faith they grew up with
2. Honest insights on preaching’s future
3. Stories of hope, challenge, and communal healing

Check out Mark Feldmeir’s book, revisit past sermons on the St. Andrew United Methodist Church website, and stay tuned for the next episode, where the conversation will turn toward joy and resilience.

Listen in for a conversation that’s both timely and timeless—helping us all learn more fully what it means to be, and to do.

https://www.markfeldmeir.com/

In this thoughtful and timely episode of To Be and Do, Philip Amerson offers a reflection on where we are as a society in January 2026, with particular attention to the legacy and continued relevance of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. As we navigate celebrations of Dr. King’s birthday and confront ongoing social issues, Philip Amerson challenges listeners to consider the depth of our ethical commitments and the collective work still needed around race, community, and justice.

Three Takeaways from the Episode:

1. Dr. King’s Message Is More Relevant Than Ever

Philip Amerson reminds us that Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. called racism an international problem, not just an issue confined to the United States. Citing King’s sobering words from “Where Do We Go From Chaos or Community?”, the episode highlights how progress towards equality requires global awareness, humility, and urgency—before history repeats itself with a cruel, "too late."

2. Ethical Questions for Today’s Leaders

The episode doesn’t shy away from asking tough questions. Philip Amerson calls on political leaders, from governors to the president, to make clear the moral or ethical basis for their policies—especially regarding race, immigration, and distribution of resources. He encourages all of us, regardless of faith tradition, to examine whether our actions are guided by deeper values or shaped by historic biases.

3. Faith and Community Require Collective Action

Drawing on the Lord’s Prayer, Philip Amerson underscores that authentic faith isn’t only personal. The emphasis is on “our Father”—signifying shared responsibility and mutual care. Whether through Christianity, Judaism, Islam, or secular ethics, the call remains the same: to love God and neighbor, dismantling barriers that perpetuate division and injustice.

Final Thoughts:

As we mark Dr. King’s birthday, Philip Amerson leaves us with a reminder that lasting change is a daily commitment, not just an annual occasion. The episode concludes with hope, warmth, and an invitation to community—a “cup of love and laughter” over coffee—urging listeners to continue the work with both conviction and kindness.

Don’t miss this meaningful reflection on justice, faith, and what it means to truly live for others.

Three Key Takeaways:

1. The Complex Journey Away from Evangelicalism Both Philip Amerson and Ed Kilbourne share personal stories of growing up in deeply religious environments, only to find themselves at odds with the evolving spirit of evangelicalism. Philip Amerson notes the increasing authoritarianism and mean-spiritedness he sees today, contrasting it with earlier years that, while exclusionary, seemed less cruel. Ed Kilbourne is open about stepping away from the church for similar reasons, preferring to be called a "believer" but not necessarily a "Christian" by today's standards. The pain of leaving a spiritual home is explored honestly, highlighting the real sense of loss that accompanies such a transition.
2. The Power of Storytelling and Progressive TheologyEd Kilbourne discovered that his true calling lay not in performing for teenagers or leading worship, but in storytelling for senior adults. He describes how sharing honest, nuanced stories in adult vacation Bible schools became a safe space for exploring progressive theology—far more effective than traditional sermons. By embedding challenging ideas within engaging anecdotes, Ed Kilbourne is able to foster meaningful reflection and connection without confrontation.
3. Embracing Authenticity and New Beginnings The episode also shines a light on the importance of authenticity and humility in spiritual leadership. Ed Kilbourne speaks with admiration—and a touch of amusement—about how his wife Kathleen now outshines him at their adult vacation Bible schools with her intimate, unscripted approach. The conversation closes with Ed Kilbourne introducing the song he hopes will be played at his funeral, poignantly reminding listeners that, ultimately, it’s about relationships, kindness, and living truthfully.

Listen in for an honest and often humorous exploration of faith, change, and finding your purpose later in life. And if you’re intrigued by the idea of adult vacation church school, stay tuned for details on how to get involved—and maybe even meet Kathleen!

https://edkilbourne.com/

Here are three key takeaways from the episode:

1. Rethinking the Church as an “Aquarium”Phil Amerson provocatively discusses how many perceive Christianity or church life as an “aquarium”—a closed system where “predator fish” consume the smaller, weaker members. He urges listeners to reject this “backward” approach, insisting that faith is intended to be expansive, welcoming, and interconnected. Citing John Wesley’s famous line, “The world is my parish,” Phil laments how this creed has sometimes been reversed, with people shrinking their worlds down to their local parishes and drawing too many boundaries.

2. The Lost Art of Community Conversations Reflecting on his upbringing in Indiana, Phil Amerson nostalgically recalls the rich, lively conversations that happened after church—in parking lots, over trivial debates about sports and ice cream, but also across political divides. These moments fostered a sense of belonging and openness, illustrating an “ecology” big enough to hold different perspectives without division or hostility.

3. Embracing Difference with Grace A major theme in this episode is the importance of engaging with those whom we disagree. Phil Amerson notes a troubling trend of “predator Christianity”—where difference leads to exclusion. Instead, he invites listeners to have open, gracious conversations with those of divergent views, full of welcome and laughter. He reminds us that “the earth is the Lord’s and the fullness thereof”—including people with whom we might never see eye to eye.

To Be and Do challenges listeners to pursue a larger, holistic faith community, where dialogue and difference are not threats but opportunities for growth. Take time this week to foster one of those open, respectful conversations with someone who sees the world differently than you do. As Phil Amerson says, maybe it’s time to bring back the laughter and curiosity that come with truly listening to one another.

God bless, and thanks for listening!

Phil Amerson starts by sharing the lineup for upcoming episodes, offering a preview of the fascinating individuals who will be joining him. First up is Ed Kilbourne, a beloved storyteller and musician whose recent work focuses on “senior Vacation Church school” programs for older adults—an initiative growing in popularity across the Southeast. Ed’s visits are marked by stories, music, and plenty of joy, so listeners can expect an episode full of heart and laughter.

Following Ed, Phil Amerson will welcome Mark Feldmeier, pastor of St. Andrew United Methodist Church in Highlands Ranch, Colorado. Phil Amerson praises Mark as one of the finest preachers in North America, someone who brings skill and insight to the pulpit week after week. Their conversation will delve into the art of preaching and the ongoing role of faith leaders in today’s world.

Listeners can also look forward to an episode with Christy Popp, a Bloomington-based immigration attorney who works closely with families navigating the country’s ever-changing immigration policies. Phil Amerson acknowledges the unpredictability and challenges faced by documented immigrants, and Christy’s perspective promises to illuminate pressing social justice issues and the human stories behind policy changes.

The show will further explore ministry and leadership with guests such as Rachel Matheny, pastor at Meridian Street United Methodist Church in Indianapolis, and Jim Harnish, a prolific author and former pastor of Hyde Park Church in Tampa. They’ll share their experiences on preaching, church leadership, and service.

Rounding out the upcoming episodes is Tim Sorens from the Parish Collective, an organization focused on creatively engaging clergy and communities, particularly in urban areas.

Takeaways:

1. A Season of Inspiration: The upcoming episodes are packed with knowledgeable, passionate guests from diverse backgrounds in ministry, leadership, and advocacy.
2. Faith in Action: Listeners will gain insights into how faith is lived out both inside and outside the church, especially amid changing societal landscapes.
3. Community and Creativity: The show places a strong emphasis on creative ministry and supporting communities through innovative practices.
4. Awareness and Advocacy: Complex issues such as immigration receive careful attention, emphasizing real-life impact and empathy.
5. Support and Prayer:
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7. calls for listener support—not just as an audience, but as partners in prayer and learning.

Whether you’re a longtime listener or new to “To Be and Do,” this episode is your invitation to join a community seeking wisdom, connection, and hope in the year ahead.

Three Takeaways from the Episode:

1. The Evolution and Future of Church CommunityEd Kilbourne and Philip Amerson explore how church culture has changed dramatically over the past 50 years. They discuss the rise of performance-driven “temporary worship” and the shifting patterns of congregational life, from grand productions to smaller, more authentic gatherings. Ed Kilbourne shares his own journey from leading thousands to finding spiritual depth in an intimate, three-person communion with no formal liturgy—champagne and donut holes included. Their conversation honestly addresses both the decline of institutional religion and the emergence of new, organic expressions of faith.

2. Rethinking and Renewing Faith Traditions The duo reflects on how religious practices are often maintained out of habit, likening the rote recital of creeds to the mysterious traditions of an Elks Club. Ed Kilbourne recounts a story from theologian Marcus Borg, who humorously admits to participating in church rituals “just because that’s what you do.” This sparks a broader conversation about the importance of seeking real meaning behind religious acts and finding new ways to make faith relevant and transformative in today’s complex world.

3. The Power of Storytelling and Song in Spiritual Life Music and storytelling remain at the heart of Ed Kilbourne’s ministry. In a moving segment, he performs a song about hope, waiting, and the eventual lifting of burdens—a piece that may not be explicitly labeled as “sacred,” yet clearly carries spiritual depth. Both speakers agree that the most profound truths often emerge from outside traditional religious genres, and they emphasize the value of honest, creative expression as a path to connection and healing.

Whether you’re nostalgic for the church of your youth or seeking fresh ways to experience and express faith, this episode offers wisdom, laughter, and a gentle nudge toward authenticity on the path of “being” and “doing.”

https://edkilbourne.com/

The episode opens with Phil Amerson candidly reflecting on aging, new beginnings, and the universal yearning to make the next years count. He draws from the second letter to the Corinthians, specifically chapter six, where the Apostle Paul discusses living in the light of God's salvation and liberation. Listeners are treated to a fresh perspective as Phil Amerson recites both familiar and profound words: to be sincere in love, truthful in speech, and steadfast in both highs and lows—"sorrowful, yet always rejoicing," and "poor, yet making many rich."

Building on these spiritual reflections, Phil Amerson introduces the thoughts of his friend Michael Mather, author of Having Nothing, Yet Possessing Everything, who challenges the notion of needing strong leaders, stating, "strong people don't need strong leaders." This thought invites listeners to consider the innate strength within communities and the shared gifts that reside among all people—not just those in traditional leadership roles.

A highlight of the episode comes with Phil Amerson's mention of Clarence Jordan's Cotton Patch Version, which reimagines scripture in authentic, relatable terms. With phrases like "crooks who speak the truth" or "corpses with a lot of wiggle left," Jordan's translation leastens the barriers to connecting with these timeless messages, encouraging listeners to see themselves vibrantly alive and impactful, regardless of age or circumstance.

As Phil Amerson closes, he urges each of us to "go to the top"—to seek out what real, faithful believers are doing and to emulate that spirit in our own ways, echoing Jordan’s playful metaphor to "wiggle on" through the year.

Takeaway Points:

1. Reflection and Renewal: The start of a new year is an opportunity to reflect on the past and look forward with hope and purpose.
2. Inner Strength: True spiritual strength is communal and rooted in sincerity, truth, and steadfastness—not just in leadership.
3. Scripture, Made Real: Fresh translations of scripture, like Clarence Jordan’s, can make ancient wisdom alive and relevant for today.
4. Keep “Wiggling On”: No matter your age or status, there’s always a way to bring energy, joy, and riches to those around us.
5. Learn from Others: Look around at those who live out their faith authentically and draw inspiration from their example.

Tune in to this guided meditation for the new year and set your intentions with thoughtful encouragement from Phil Amerson and his spiritual companions.

Born on January 1st, 1946, at the dawn of a new year and a new era, Phil Amerson shares a charming and vivid account of his arrival. He recalls icy roads in Indiana, the challenge of being born in a different county than where his family lived, and the community dynamics that resulted—stories rich with nostalgia and warmth. It’s a tale that underscores the uniqueness of each birthday and reminds us of how family, history, and place are intertwined.

But this episode is far more than a stroll down memory lane. Phil Amerson turns his own story into a reflection on gratitude, wisdom, and the passage of time. He mentions receiving a book for Christmas and his birthday, “It’s Taken Years to Get This Old,” which serves as a springboard for a deeper meditation on aging, appreciating each day, and the biblical wisdom of numbering our days.

Takeaways from this Episode:

1. Celebrate Your Own Story: Birthdays and the New Year are powerful moments to pause and reflect on our own journeys.
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3. ’s story encourages listeners to honor where you come from and the path you’ve traveled.
4. Gratitude for Each Day: The reminder to “live every day as if it is a great gift” asks us to adopt a posture of gratitude, seeing each moment as a present to be cherished.
5. Wisdom from Time: Citing Psalms,
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7. emphasizes the importance of numbering our days, recognizing that reflection on time can deepen our wisdom and appreciation.
8. Change and Adaptation: The episode reflects on how much the world—and our lives within it—change across decades, urging us to embrace adaptation while treasuring our memories.
9. Blessing for the Year Ahead: With warmth and kindness,
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11. ends with a heartfelt blessing for listeners as we move into the new year.

Whether you’re marking a milestone or simply closing another chapter, this episode offers timeless insights on living fully, aging with grace, and finding wisdom in each passing year.

The episode opens with Philip Amerson introducing his “family” of handmade snowmen—a congregation member’s gift that turns into an annual tradition. These snowmen, dressed even as clergy, bring smiles and serve as reminders of the season’s spirit, especially poignant in the snowy setting of his Indiana home. Beyond decoration, they embody warmth, connection, and the joys found in simple traditions.

As the conversation unfolds, Philip Amerson reveals another powerful ritual: reading Luke’s Gospel and examining Christmas cards reflecting the Nativity scene. He draws attention to the importance of including all characters—wise men, shepherds, angels—even joking that every card needs to portray the full tableau, regardless of scriptural source. Through these practices, his family keeps rooted in both faith and humor, blending scripture with the realities of modern life.

The heart of the episode lies in reflecting on the message of “Fear not”—the angelic proclamation at the Nativity, as detailed in Luke’s Gospel. Philip Amerson lingers on the urgency of this message in today’s turbulent world. He reminds listeners that “despair is a luxury” and “hope is a necessity,” underscoring hope as a discipline that must be actively practiced. Through symbols and traditions, we are called to return to this message and live it out in community.

Closing with gentle advice, Philip Amerson encourages loving connections, even with those who disagree, and extending kindness to neighbors. Wearing a smile even in difficult moments becomes an act of practicing hope and belonging—summed up in the teaching: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”

Takeaway Points:

1. Symbols and traditions—not just objects, but keepers of hope—help anchor us in difficult times.
2. The message of “Fear not!” remains deeply relevant, especially in moments of stress and uncertainty.
3. Hope is a discipline that demands regular practice, not just an emotion to be felt.
4. Acts of kindness, inclusion, and love—towards family, neighbors, and even those we disagree with—carry forward the lessons of the holiday season.
5. Sharing rituals and stories sustains a sense of belonging and growth, offering grounding in both faith and community.

Tune in for thoughtful reflections, gentle humor, and a timeless call to nurture hope.

The episode opens with Philip Amerson introducing “The Belonging Exchange,” and sharing how a poem by Walter Wangren Jr. has been a catalyst for wrestling with questions of power, authority, and belonging in today’s turbulent socio-political climate. There’s candid acknowledgment of the injustices and harmful rhetoric that dominate public discourse—when even national leaders refer to people as “garbage” or when violence is justified by questionable motives. Both speakers invite listeners to resist the numbing effect of these narratives and instead, seek the courage to “live beyond the easy either-or” thinking that divides neighbor from neighbor.

Throughout the episode, Philip Amerson reminds us of Advent’s paradox—the vulnerable infant Christ, born in obscurity, who embodies a love greater than the world’s mightiest powers. This “power of love” is lifted up as more lasting, revolutionary, and transformative than any “love of power” or military-force solution. The conversation calls on believers to claim a complex faith, one that welcomes questioning and does not settle for simplistic worldviews.

Philip Amerson urges us to avoid the trap of binary thinking: we are not to believe that some people are wholly good, others wholly bad, or that God rewards some while rejecting others. “No, there is no garbage in God’s realm,” he asserts, affirming that all are children of God.

Key Takeaways:

1. Resist Simplistic Narratives: Faith and life are complex. Refrain from labeling others as all-good or all-bad, and reject rhetoric that dehumanizes.
2. Choose the Power of Love: True authority lies in love, not in coercion or violence; Jesus’s life and death model the ultimate paradox of powerful humility.
3. Embrace Paradox and Mystery: Faith calls us into the mysteries of paradox—strength in weakness, greatness in service, hope amid darkness.
4. Every Person Has Inherent Value: God’s realm includes everyone. There are no outcasts, no “garbage,” only beloved children of God.
5. Live Beyond Either-Or Thinking: Move past easy divisions and be open to the complexity and diversity of human experience, especially in this season of Advent.

As you journey through Advent and into Christmas, may these reflections inspire you to nurture love, complexity, and belonging—in your life, your community, and the wider world.

Three Key Takeaways:

1. Community Is a Gift, Not Just an EffortPhil Amerson shares insights from his years spent in intentional communities, highlighting how genuine community cannot simply be manufactured—it is fundamentally a gift. However, we can create the context in which this gift is received, such as through diverse gatherings or the annual picnic tradition that has grown over the years. The episode encourages listeners to focus on setting the stage for community rather than trying to force it.
2. Minding the Gap: Addressing Division and Isolation Drawing on a metaphor from European train travel—“Mind the gap”—the hosts discuss the increasing sense of division in society. Ken Medema and Phil Amerson both stress that while division is a reality, much of it is actively created rather than innate. Their ongoing work (including the Belonging Exchange and upcoming retreats for pastors) aims to close these gaps by fostering environments where people can truly connect, feel seen, and be reminded they are loved.
3. Compassionate Action Toward the Marginalized The conversation shifts to the role of community in serving those on the margins, especially people with disabilities and those affected by poverty or incarceration. Ken Medema shares powerful stories from his foundation’s work in Mississippi, highlighting the vulnerable reliance on dwindling resources and the importance of advocating for "nothing about us, without us." Both speakers challenge listeners to not keep such populations "out of sight, out of mind," but instead to create inclusive communities where everyone’s voice matters.

Bonus Moment:

Enjoy Ken Medema’s poignant song on longing for connection, isolation, and the hope of unity—a musical reminder of the episode’s core message.

Connect Further:

Learn more about the Belonging Exchange, retreats for pastors, and Ken’s musical and community-building initiatives at interluderetreats.org.

Final Thought:

“Come on, my friend, let's join together and help nudge the future in a direction toward one that the followers of Jesus all are called to do.”

https://www.kenmedema.com/

Philip Amerson opens with a universal appeal: that we are each children of God, that we all care about the future, and that our unique talents matter in these times. Through a simple, thoughtful question, Philip Amerson prompts us to recall a moment of genuine surprise—an experience so profound it left an indelible mark on our lives. For Philip Amerson, that memory is rooted in meeting Walter Wangerin Jr., a meeting that blossomed into a deep friendship but also fundamentally shaped his spiritual and professional journey.

The episode’s centerpiece is Wangerin’s poem, “The Carol of Warm and Cold,” a luminous rendering of the Nativity scene. As Philip Amerson recites the poem, listeners are drawn into the cold, humble space of the stable, feeling the chill of the air, the tenderness of Mary, the resourcefulness of Joseph, and the steadfastness of their animal companions. The poem beautifully underscores themes of vulnerability, shared humanity, and the mystery at the heart of Advent and Christmas.

Key Takeaways from This Episode:

1. Surprising Encounters Shape Us: Philip Amerson reminds us that unexpected meetings—like his with Wangerin—can bring surprising lifelong blessings and open us to new purpose.
2. The Power of Community and Memory: The episode reflects on how belonging and shared experiences, especially during challenging times, deepen our faith and connect us across generations.
3. Embodying Advent’s Spirit: Through Wangerin’s poetry, Philip Amerson encourages us to embrace both warmth and vulnerability, seeing the Nativity not as an abstract story but as an experience rich with human emotion, resilience, and hope.
4. A Call to Mindfulness This Season: Closing with a heartfelt Advent and Christmas blessing, Philip Amerson leaves listeners with a gentle nudge to enter this season with humility, wonder, and gratitude for those who walk alongside us.

Tune in for a beautifully crafted meditation that invites you to find meaning in simplicity, to remember the value of friendship, and to rediscover the soul of Advent.

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In this heartfelt Advent-themed episode, host Philip Amerson invites listeners to pause and reflect during the December season, connecting the journey of Advent to wisdom found in the writings of Howard Thurman. As the world starts to buzz with Christmas preparations, Philip Amerson gently directs our attention towards deeper, more meaningful reflections on what it means for “Christmas to be waiting to be born” not only in history, but within each of us and across humankind.

The episode opens with personal memories and literary reverence for Howard Thurman—a profound theologian, spiritual leader, and former dean at Boston University’s Marsh Chapel. Quoting Thurman’s influential book Jesus and the Disinherited, Philip Amerson encourages listeners to explore this text for its ongoing relevance and transformative perspective on faith, justice, and compassion.

Drawing listeners closer, Philip Amerson recites Thurman's poem, "Christmas is Waiting to be Born," published in 1985. With vivid imagery, the poem highlights places and people in our world where hope seems distant: refugees seeking deliverance, children who lose their innocence too soon, the elderly facing loneliness, and everyday struggles marked by fear or longing. In these scenes, Thurman locates the spirit of Christmas—not in glitter or gift-giving, but in acts and moments where hope, love, and justice are desperately needed.

Throughout the episode, Philip Amerson blends personal anecdote with homage, sharing a story about Joe Emerson, a student of Thurman, who fondly recalled Thurman’s slow, deliberate speaking style that made his pearls of wisdom all the more memorable. This recollection underscores the enduring presence and impact of Thurman's voice—which, much like the message of Advent, continues to call us into deeper awareness and compassionate action.

Takeaway Points:

1. The Spirit of Christmas is Found in Hard Places: “Christmas is waiting to be born” not amid comfort and plenty, but in the hearts of refugees, children, the elderly, and all who yearn for hope.
2. Howard Thurman's Wisdom Remains Vital: His poetry and books, especially Jesus and the Disinherited, challenge us to ask what makes us come alive—and to pursue it for the world's sake.
3. Advent is a Call to Deep Personal Renewal: The episode invites us to let the transformative spirit of Christmas be “born” within ourselves, becoming a source of hope and love for others.
4. Remember the Power of Slow Wisdom: Taking time to absorb thoughtful words—like Thurman’s—can shape us in profound ways as we move into the season ahead.

As you move through Advent, may Thurman’s wisdom and Philip Amerson’s reflections inspire deep hope and renewal in your own life and community.

In this reflective episode of the "To Be snd Do" podcast, Philip Amerson invites us into a moment of meditation centered around Ted Kooser’s evocative poem, "The Red Wing Church." Through poetic imagery and personal contemplation, Philip Amerson shares insights into the ever-evolving nature of churches and their role in communities, reminding us that meaning and sacredness can persist even amidst change and apparent decline.

Three Takeaways from the Episode:

1. Transformation Does Not Mean Loss
2. Philip Amerson uses Kooser’s poem to highlight how the physical transformation of a church building—becoming a barn, a hen house, or providing materials for homes and public buildings—does not erase its sacred influence. The scattered pieces of the church, from stained glass to pews, continue serving the community in new and meaningful ways. The steeple, cross, and bells are repurposed but maintain their connection to shared history and faith.
3. Redemption Lives in Unexpected Places
4. The imagery of the cross being “only God knows where” becomes a metaphor for the idea that redemption and acts of kindness are not confined within traditional church walls. Philip Amerson reflects that true spiritual work often occurs in the overlooked and ordinary corners of life—where suffering exists, but so do compassion and community supports. The message is clear: even when conventional structures fade, the spirit of good works endures.
5. Small Churches, Big Impact
6. Contrary to narratives of decline, Philip Amerson passionately contends that many small, seemingly insignificant churches remain at the heart of what matters most. These gatherings—despite changes and challenges—act as centers of deep spiritual and communal life. They remain vibrant places of connection, hope, and transformation, often quietly anchoring their communities through service and care.

Final Thoughts:

This episode asks listeners to look beyond appearances and reconsider what it means for something to be sacred or valuable. The church, in its many forms and fragments, symbolizes the resilience of faith, the enduring presence of community, and the ongoing potential for transformation and renewal. Through poetry and thoughtful reflection, Philip Amerson encourages us to find grace in change and trust in the “good works of the Lord” all around us.

The episode begins with Phil Amerson highlighting the many hats worn by Ken Medema—artist, composer, performer, and advocate for justice. Ken Medema describes his multifaceted work, from performing concerts in churches and fundraising for nonprofits, to nurturing a unique house church for Broadway entertainers who have felt alienated by traditional church environments. Through his Interlude foundation, Ken Medema not only brings music to diverse communities, but also creates spaces of belonging and support, especially for artists who often find themselves on the fringes.

A touching centerpiece of this episode comes when Phil Amerson shares an experience involving a homeless woman on a cold Midwestern morning and the simple but profound offer of a cup of coffee from a stranger. Ken Medema, with his signature improvisational brilliance, turns this story into a heartfelt song, capturing the human longing to be seen and the transformative power of small acts of kindness.

Throughout their conversation, Ken Medema and Phil Amerson reflect on the importance of community and interdependence, especially through music. They discuss the unique, holy moments shared by choir members breathing in unison before singing—a metaphor for working together towards something none could achieve alone. Ken Medema expresses his passion for choirs, both in church and the wider community, noting how these gatherings foster support and leadership beyond their musical contributions.

Key Takeaways:

1. Small Acts, Big Impact: Simple gestures—like offering coffee to someone in need—carry profound meaning and are opportunities for connection and compassion.
2. Music as Community: Choirs and communal singing create deep bonds, offering not just harmony in music but also support and togetherness, especially important as church choirs wane and community choirs rise.
3. Inclusive Spiritual Spaces:
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5. 's work with the Interlude foundation shows the power of creating alternative spiritual communities where everyone, especially those who feel marginalized, can belong.
6. The Power of Story and Song:
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8. demonstrates how stories, when set to music, can help us see one another more clearly and honor the sacredness in everyday encounters.

Listeners are left inspired by the gentle wisdom and creative spirit that define both this episode and the enduring friendship at its core.

Show Notes

In this thoughtful Advent episode, host Philip Amerson invites listeners to pause and reflect on the depth of the season through the wisdom of theologian and poet Howard Thurman. Sharing both the inspiration and the resonance of Thurman's poem "Christmas is Waiting to be Born," Philip Amerson weaves together history, personal story, and a call to inward transformation at the holidays. This episode is a gentle, stirring reminder that the truest meaning of Christmas is not just in festivities, but in a renewal that starts within us and echoes through our world.

Three Key Takeaways

1. Howard Thurman’s Wisdom Remains Profoundly Relevant
2. Philip Amerson brings Thurman’s legacy to the forefront, specifically his classic book Jesus and the Disinherited and the oft-quoted challenge to “ask yourself what makes you come alive, and go and do that. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive.” The episode underscores how Thurman’s voice is still a needed guide for navigating modern struggles, injustice, and hope.
3. "Christmas is Waiting to Be Born" in Us All
4. The heart of this episode is a moving reading of Thurman’s 1985 poem, "Christmas is Waiting to be Born." Lines about refugees seeking deliverance, aging before one’s time, and fear accompanying daily life, fit today’s realities as much as they did decades ago. Philip Amerson encourages listeners to let the poem’s message take root: the birth of Christmas—the arrival of hope, peace, and love—happens within us, not just as a historical event, but as a present, personal transformation.
5. Advent is a Time for Inner Renewal and Action
6. Philip Amerson gently reminds us that Advent is not just about anticipating an external celebration, but about becoming active agents for new life and compassion every day. Recalling memories of Thurman’s slow, resonant teaching, and linking the poem to the struggles of today—refugees, children left behind, seniors facing hardship—he calls each listener to carry the spirit of Christmas forward: “in you, in me, and in all humankind.” This is both comforting and challenging, urging us to seek both inward renewal and outward action as the holiday approaches.

Whether you're wrestling with Advent’s meaning or seeking encouragement in difficult times, this episode is an invitation to pause, receive, and let the work of hope begin again—right where you are.

In this heartfelt episode of the “To Be and Do” podcast, host Phil Amerson reconnects with Calvin Kimbrough and Nelia Kimbrough, two extraordinary artists and community builders whose creative journeys have shaped not only their own lives, but entire neighborhoods and faith communities. Together, they explore the transformative power of art, the resilience of faith communities, and finding joy—even in tough times.

Three Takeaways from the Episode:

1. Creativity as Freedom and Transformation

Nelia Kimbrough shares how her creative life began with humble adult education art classes and evolved into running a studio and gallery in her neighborhood. Her story is a testament to the freedom and possibility that art offers—even when resources are limited. Whether making paper baskets from recycled church bulletins or experimenting with new materials, Nelia highlights how creativity can turn the everyday and even the discarded into something meaningful. For her, working with her hands is not just a pastime—it’s a source of grounding and hope, especially in difficult seasons.

2. Art as Witness and Relationship

Calvin Kimbrough delves into his decades of documenting community life, especially among vulnerable populations. His photography and portraiture at Patchwork and the Open Door Community not only preserve memories but create opportunities for connection and affirmation. Calvin shares a powerful moment when a homeless man asks him, “What are you looking for when you take our picture?” This leads to a discussion about the give-and-take of meaningful human encounters, and how art can help us see each other more fully.

3. Building Community and Resistance in Troubled Times

As the conversation shifts to the future, both Kimbroughs reflect on how faith and creativity are essential tools for building nurturing, inclusive, and resistant communities. Drawing on scriptural themes, Nelia Kimbrough encourages listeners to persist in forming “communities of love and nurture and resistance” even amidst societal exile or upheaval. Calvin Kimbrough voices hope in the rising generation of activists and leaders relentlessly working for justice in areas like housing, LGBTQIA+ rights, and gun control.

The episode wraps with reflections on the small joys—from women’s basketball to crafting—reminding us that the connection between what we see, create, and share with our hands is a powerful source of meaning and resilience.

Tune in for this inspiring conversation about the intersection of art, faith, and action, and discover ways creativity can help us all belong and build a better world.

Host: Phil Amerson

Show Notes

In this short yet heartwarming episode of "To Be snd Do," Phil Amerson invites us into a gathering of retired friends wrestling with the world's problems but choosing, just this once, to focus on joy. Through personal stories and the power of poetry, Phil Amerson reminds listeners to pause and reflect on what truly brings them happiness in life.

Episode Summary

Phil Amerson begins by recounting a recent meeting with a group of retired men. Typically, their conversations drift toward the struggles and issues facing the world. However, their most recent gathering took a different turn when someone asked, “What brings you joy?” The answers were as diverse as the men themselves: sports, grandchildren, travel, the simple pleasure of a meal, and gratitude for the ability to help others.

For Phil Amerson, poetry is a source of joy. He shares his ongoing quest to learn new poems even in retirement. This leads him to recite "Our Real Work" by Wendell Berry, a revered poet and novelist from Kentucky. The poem explores themes of uncertainty, work, and the beauty of challenges—summed up in the striking line, “It is the impeded stream that sings.”

Three Key Takeaways

1. Joy Can Be Found in Everyday Life
2. The conversation among Phil Amerson and his friends highlights how joy arises from both ordinary and extraordinary moments—whether it's a football game, family, good food, or helping others. It’s a reminder to look for happiness in everyday experiences.
3. Poetry as a Gateway to Reflection
4. For Phil Amerson, poetry offers solace, inspiration, and joy. Sharing and memorizing poems—like Berry’s “Our Real Work”—can be a meaningful way to process life’s uncertainties and celebrate its mysteries. Poetry invites us to pause, listen, and find wisdom in artful words.
5. Embracing Uncertainty Is Part of Our ‘Real Work’
6. Berry’s poem suggests that not knowing exactly what to do or which way to go is not a failing but a beginning. When our minds are “baffled,” we are truly engaged, and life’s obstacles can help us find our unique song—the very challenges that impede us also shape us and inspire growth.

Whether you’re facing uncertainty or searching for joy, this episode encourages you to embrace both with openness and curiosity.

In this heartfelt episode of To Be and Do, Phil Amerson welcomes longtime friends and collaborators, Calvin Kimbrough and Nelia Kimbrough, for a reflective and inspiring conversation about a lifetime of ministry, community building, and joyful, radical hospitality. With decades of collective experience as educators, artists, activists, and spiritual leaders, the Kimbroughs share vibrant stories from their journeys in places like Nashville, Atlanta, and Evansville.

Listeners are treated to personal narratives that reveal how childhood experiences—like Nelia Kimbrough’s memories of a “hole in the hedge” connecting separate communities, and Calvin Kimbrough’s time with his grandfather in a segregated Nashville—formed a foundation for their lifelong commitment to bridging divides. The couple recounts how formative relationships and transformative experiences led them to co-found Patchwork Central and later join the Open Door Community, always centering their work on proximity to the marginalized.

Phil Amerson, himself a participant in this shared history, draws out reflections on legacy and the evolving work of Patchwork Central. The Kimbroughs express deep joy seeing a new generation, represented by Amy and John Rich, expand and reimagine the mission. The conversation highlights how vital it is to keep ministries open to renewal, always responding dynamically to changing needs.

Takeaways from the Episode:

1. Bridging Divides: Whether through literal holes in hedges or inclusive worship services, true community is built by finding—then widening—connections between different groups. For the Kimbroughs, lasting joy comes from these small but transformative acts of bridging.
2. Legacy and Adaptation: The Kimbroughs’ pride in Patchwork Central’s evolution, particularly the new initiatives after their leadership, underscores the importance of building institutions that outlast individuals and adapt to the times.
3. Power of “Weak Ties” or Bridging Relationships: Communities flourish when they foster not only strong personal bonds but also many “bridging” relationships—expanding circles that renew and diversify participation.
4. Learning from Proximity: Being close to suffering and need, as described in experiences at Open Door, is challenging but essential to authentic service. This proximity not only transforms those who serve but honors the dignity of those served.
5. Supporting Evolving Work: The Kimbroughs encourage listeners to support organizations like Patchwork Central, reminding us all that lasting community work relies on ongoing engagement and generosity.

This episode is a beautiful testament to a life dedicated to weaving relationships and creating spaces of belonging—a must-listen for anyone interested in community, faith, and the art of making connections that endure.

On this heartfelt episode of To Be snd Do, Phil Amerson invites us into a quiet yet profound moment from his everyday life, guiding listeners to become more alert to the subtle intersections of the sacred in the seemingly mundane. This short reflection, rooted in a chance encounter on Walnut Street, is a gentle reminder that what many spiritual traditions call "thin moments" — those rare times when the distance between the ordinary and the divine feels especially slight — can happen when we least expect them.

A Story of Warmth on a Cold Morning

Phil Amerson recounts meeting "Emma," a woman experiencing homelessness and mental health challenges, whom he had seen sleeping beneath layers of blankets on a brisk morning in Bloomington. After his breakfast, he found Emma awake, gathering her things, and speaking with a local shop owner. Bracing for confrontation typically faced by many unhoused neighbors, Phil Amerson was instead moved by compassion in action: the shop owner simply asked Emma if she would prefer coffee or hot chocolate.

This small act of kindness became a “thin moment” — a flash of grace where, as Phil Amerson describes, God's presence and mercies become visible in, and through, ordinary people and actions.

Three Key Takeaways from the Episode

1. Thin Moments Are Everywhere, If We Notice
2. Phil Amerson introduces and demystifies the notion of "thin moments," times when the sacred pierces through the everyday. He reminds us that these are not reserved for the saints or the spiritually elite, but can sneak up on anyone open to seeing grace in action — even over something as simple as a cup of hot chocolate.
3. Small Gestures Hold Profound Meaning
4. The episode challenges listeners not to underestimate small acts of kindness. Drawing from scripture, Phil Amerson parallels the shop owner's offer to Emma with the biblical "cup of cold water" — a symbol of hospitality and care, regardless of its simplicity. He emphasizes that while grand gestures (like building irrigation systems) are valuable, we should not neglect the power of a single meaningful act.
5. Learn (and Remember) to See the People Around Us
6. The story is a gentle challenge to know — at least by name or presence — the people we often pass by. Phil Amerson candidly shares that he, too, can miss God’s grace at work in day-to-day interactions, but calls listeners to open their eyes and hearts to those around them, especially the most vulnerable in our communities.

Final Thoughts

In closing, Phil Amerson leaves listeners with a blessing and an encouragement to look out for thin places — and to be present and generous enough to offer a cup of cold water, hot chocolate, or coffee when the opportunity comes. This episode is a timely, gentle nudge to notice—and become—the grace that sustains and warms our world.

May we all, as Phil Amerson says, find and create those thin moments in our days ahead.

Guest: Dr. Javon Caldwell Gross

Dr. Gross’s book

"Not Just Sunday: Reimagine the Reach and Rhythms of Your Church"

The Rev. Dr. Jevon Caldwell-Gross has been a transformational ministry thought leader for 2 decades. Serving in diverse contexts, from urban neighborhoods to multicultural suburban communities. Dr. J is known for his unique ability to connect with a wide range of audiences and make the gospel both accessible and practical for everyday life.

His journey has included serving at one of the largest United Methodist churches in the country, St. Luke’s United Methodist Church in Indianapolis, IN, where he led as Teaching and Online Community Pastor, helping to redefine and expand the church’s digital footprint to reach people around the world.

Dr. J now serves as the Director of Church Revitalization and New Developments for the Indiana Conference of the United Methodist Church, where he resources and supports more than 640 congregations across the state. In this role, he partners with pastors, leaders, and communities to help churches navigate a rapidly changing ministry landscape with clarity, courage, and innovation. His work includes developing strategies for revitalization, fostering new church developments, and equipping churches for effective ministry in both physical and digital spaces.

An ordained pastor, author, and professor, he is driven by a clear mission: to equip churches and congregational leaders for relevant, sustainable, and transformative ministry. He holds an M.Div. from Princeton Theological Seminary and a D.Min. from Wesley Theological Seminary, where he focused on transformational leadership. 

When he’s not filming a mobile message or developing the next online sermon series, Dr. J is often designing new training materials for clergy and laity, coaching pastors through revitalization challenges, or sitting across from a leader at a local coffee shop with something hot in hand, dreaming, discerning, and imagining what God might be calling the church to do next.

Show Notes:

To Be and Do Podcast

Guest: Dr. Javon Caldwell Gross

Host: Philip Amerson

Welcome to another inspiring episode of the To Be and Do podcast! In this heartfelt conversation, Philip Amerson sits down with Dr. Javon Caldwell Gross (Dr. Javon Caldwell Gross), an insightful leader and author, to explore what church revitalization looks like as we approach 2025 and beyond. As they share wisdom, stories, and practical insights, listeners are invited to reflect on faith, ministry, and what it means to be a church in today’s rapidly changing world.

Three Key Takeaways:

1. Revitalization Begins with Identity, Not Activity
2. Dr. Javon Caldwell Gross reframes the conversation around church revitalization, urging churches to start not with “what they do,” but with “who they are called to be.” He emphasizes that the landscapes of ministry have shifted dramatically since 2019, and churches must discover their unique identity before planning activities. Asking foundational questions like “Who is God calling us to be?” creates a compass for navigating new challenges and opportunities, making revitalization about formation and transformation, not merely survival.
3. Faith Requires Rethinking and Equipping for Today’s Challenges
4. Through personal stories from both Philip Amerson and Dr. Javon Caldwell Gross, listeners hear how the essence of ministry remains steady despite dramatic changes in scale, context, and community. Dr. Javon Caldwell Gross underscores the responsibility to develop leaders and equip congregations with the skills needed for modern ministry. Whether pastoring 27 or 3,500, the call to make disciples is constant—and it takes intentional development, adaptability, and a willingness to ask, “How do we sing the Lord’s song in a strange land?”
5. Stories and Scripture as Sources of Hope and Guidance
6. One vital takeaway is the role of storytelling and scripture in fueling hope, imagination, and courage for church leaders. Philip Amerson and Dr. Javon Caldwell Gross share powerful anecdotes about unlikely moments of growth and renewal in congregations and communities. Dr. Caldwell Gross encourages listeners to share their stories, reminding us that these narratives are the “currency of the faith.” By engaging scripture—such as Psalm 139 and passages about caring for one’s place—churches find wisdom for navigating a “strange land” and are called to live out the gospel in practical, justice-oriented ways.

Final Thoughts:

This episode offers encouragement for clergy, laity, and anyone passionate about church vitality. The journey begins with honest discernment of identity, the courage to equip and adapt, and the sharing of transformative stories rooted in faith. Be sure to check the links to Dr. Caldwell Gross’s work, and, above all, continue reflecting on who God is calling you to be in this moment.

Dr. Gross’s book

"Not Just Sunday: Reimagine the Reach and Rhythms of Your Church"

Three Key Takeaways:

1. Listening Matters—True Leadership ConnectsPhil Amerson opens the episode explaining why he visits the statue of Dr. Wells: it’s a symbol of leadership that listens. He shares with his grandsons that, unlike current university officials who seem distant and unresponsive, Dr. Wells represented a kind of leadership committed to genuine engagement and care. This sets up an insightful critique of the current administration, contrasted with memories of a time when relationships and accessibility were priorities on campus.
2. Spiritual Drought and the Value of Faith Reflecting on shifts within the university and wider society, Phil Amerson notes a "spiritual drought," where faith is often misused as ideology rather than practiced as compassion. He remembers Dr. Wells’ United Methodist roots and underscores the need for humility, moral grounding, and shared spiritual awareness—qualities he finds lacking today in many academic leaders. The conversation calls for both faculty and administrators to reflect and reconnect with deeper community values.
3. Asset Stripping and the Changing Face of AcademiaPhil Amerson and IU Dad touch on the transformation sweeping through IU, especially the shift of resources away from arts and sciences toward sports and business interests. Phil Amerson expresses concern over what he terms "asset stripping," comparing it to hostile takeovers in business. He worries about the loss of relationship-building and the diminishing role of social justice and racial inclusion, urging the university to balance its investments and to foster a climate of hope and joy instead of fear.

Episode Highlights:

• Nostalgic stories of Dr. Wells’ leadership and the beauty of the IU campus.
• IU Dad
• shares the joy of time with his daughter, emphasizing the personal side of campus visits.
• Reflections on joy, family, sports, and the need for hope amidst challenging times.

Tune in for a moving conversation that bridges the past and present, and invites listeners to consider what it truly means to belong and lead in a university community.

Guest: Dr. Javon Caldwell Gross

Dr. Gross’s book

"Not Just Sunday: Reimagine the Reach and Rhythms of Your Church"

The Rev. Dr. Jevon Caldwell-Gross has been a transformational ministry thought leader for 2 decades. Serving in diverse contexts, from urban neighborhoods to multicultural suburban communities. Dr. J is known for his unique ability to connect with a wide range of audiences and make the gospel both accessible and practical for everyday life.

His journey has included serving at one of the largest United Methodist churches in the country, St. Luke’s United Methodist Church in Indianapolis, IN, where he led as Teaching and Online Community Pastor, helping to redefine and expand the church’s digital footprint to reach people around the world.

Dr. J now serves as the Director of Church Revitalization and New Developments for the Indiana Conference of the United Methodist Church, where he resources and supports more than 640 congregations across the state. In this role, he partners with pastors, leaders, and communities to help churches navigate a rapidly changing ministry landscape with clarity, courage, and innovation. His work includes developing strategies for revitalization, fostering new church developments, and equipping churches for effective ministry in both physical and digital spaces.

An ordained pastor, author, and professor, he is driven by a clear mission: to equip churches and congregational leaders for relevant, sustainable, and transformative ministry. He holds an M.Div. from Princeton Theological Seminary and a D.Min. from Wesley Theological Seminary, where he focused on transformational leadership. 

When he’s not filming a mobile message or developing the next online sermon series, Dr. J is often designing new training materials for clergy and laity, coaching pastors through revitalization challenges, or sitting across from a leader at a local coffee shop with something hot in hand, dreaming, discerning, and imagining what God might be calling the church to do next.

Host: Phil Amerson

Show Notes

Welcome back to the To Be and Do podcast, where host Phil Amerson explores how authentic connections, interdependence, and transformational leadership shape communities and faith. In this inspiring episode, Dr. Javon Caldwell Gross joins Phil to share his personal journey from pastoral work to academic leadership, and unpack his insights on creating more inclusive, engaged, and evolving communities.

Dr. Gross, currently the Director of Revitalization and Church Development for the Indiana Annual Conference of the United Methodist Church, reflects on his experiences—from his formative years at Kalamazoo College, to innovative ministry roles, and his approach to storytelling through video and writing. Whether you lead in a faith setting or simply care about belonging, growth, and genuine community, this episode is packed with wisdom.

Three Major Takeaways:

1. Transformational Leadership Fosters True Diversity

Dr. Gross shares a powerful story from his time at Kalamazoo College, describing how visionary leadership fundamentally changed the institution. Through the efforts of President Dr. Wilson Oyelaran, the college reinvented itself—transforming recruitment, faculty tenure, and campus culture—not only to look diverse, but to live diversity as an essential part of academic and personal growth. The process didn’t diminish excellence, it elevated it. This model demonstrates that organizations (including churches) thrive by embracing evolution, not fearing change.

2. The Most Meaningful Faith Experiences Happen Beyond Sunday Morning

Drawing from ministry research and personal observation, Dr. Gross explains how transformative and formative spiritual moments often occur outside the traditional Sunday worship setting. Whether connecting at a soccer field or in everyday life, churches—and any caring community—should focus resources on meeting people in the places where life truly unfolds. His new book, It’s Not Just Sunday, encourages leaders and congregations to see discipleship as a daily, relational journey, rather than a single weekly event.

3. Storytelling Bridges Gaps and Sparks Change

Dr. Gross highlights his passion for storytelling—through preaching, video, and writing—as a key method for communicating faith and building bridges. Sharing authentic stories, including difficult ones like his reflection on being a Black leader after the murder of George Floyd, invites broader connection and healing. These stories offer pathways for church and society to become more present, relevant, and responsive to real human experiences.

Join Phil and Dr. Gross in this episode for an authentic conversation on leadership, change, and belonging. Don’t forget to check out Dr. Gross’s book

"Not Just Sunday: Reimagine the Reach and Rhythms of Your Church"

and his video reels for more stories and insights!

In this heartfelt "Because" episode of "To Be and Do," we welcome Phil Amerson as he reflects on recent changes at the university, the shifting landscape of academic freedom, and the enduring legacy of Dr. Wells. Through personal storytelling and sharp observations, Phil Amerson highlights the deep connections between faith, the academic community, and the ongoing struggle for racial justice.

Below are three key takeaways from this episode:

1. Shifting University Governance and Its ImpactsPhil Amerson shares concerns over significant changes at the university, particularly regarding governance. He notes the recent legislative decision to transfer the selection of board members from alumni to gubernatorial appointment. This change, coupled with large investments in sports, signals a move away from tradition and increases centralized control. These developments pose potential risks to long-valued academic freedoms and autonomy, echoing broader national trends.

2. The Legacy of Racial Justice and Faith The episode deeply explores Dr. Wells’ commitment to racial justice, illustrating how it was fundamentally rooted not just in academic philosophy but in his faith traditions. Phil Amerson recounts Dr. Wells’ mentorship and his pivotal role in inviting progressive faith leaders, like Merrill McFall, into key positions. The conversation is a tribute to the way personal history and relationships—especially those formed through faith communities—can inspire and reinforce a lifelong dedication to justice and inclusion.

3. Challenges to Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion InitiativesPhil Amerson laments the dismantling of programs designed to support minority students, reflecting on how diversity, equity, and inclusion are increasingly framed as negative ideas in the broader societal discourse. He expresses sorrow at the loss of these foundational efforts and the troubling direction in which current attitudes seem to be headed. The plea to "keep trying to share your great legacy" serves as both a call to action and a moment of gratitude for the progress already accomplished.

Summary This episode is a moving blend of personal memory, social critique, and a call for continued vigilance. Phil Amerson’s reflections on leadership, racial justice, and the power of faith will be inspiring for listeners who care deeply about the future of academic communities and equitable opportunity.

Be sure to listen to the full episode for a powerful reminder of why advocacy and remembrance matter more than ever.

Host: Philip Amerson

Guest: De'Amon Harges

Welcome back to the To Be and Do podcast, where community, creativity, and connection are at the heart of each conversation. In this episode, Philip Amerson catches up with De'Amon Harges—the “original roving listener”—for a candid discussion about his family history, the creation and impact of the Learning Tree, and the ongoing journey to cultivate communities built on gifts, dignity, and abundance.

Three Takeaways from this Episode:

1. The Power of Story in Community Formation

De'Amon Harges traces his roots back through stories shared by his grandparents, who escaped the South’s brutality but faced fresh challenges in the North. His grandfather’s tradition of planting a tree at each child’s birth became a neighborhood gathering spot—a symbol for honoring everyone’s gifts. For De'Amon Harges, learning and retelling these stories shaped his understanding of how communities are formed: around dignity, shared experience, and the belief that “no gift goes unused here.”

2. Shifting Philanthropy: From Needs to Gifts

The Learning Tree, founded by De'Amon Harges and his neighbors, challenges traditional philanthropy. Instead of focusing on deficits and needs, they deliberately seek out gifts, talents, and passions in the community. Grants aren’t distributed through proposals but by finding people already doing valuable work, with requirements that initiatives are collaborative and that failure is allowed and even welcomed as part of the creative process. This model brings resources directly to those who need them and recognizes community members as “genuine philanthropists.”

3. Becoming Good Neighbors—Inside and Outside Institutions

Philip Amerson and De'Amon Harges reflect on what it means for institutions—especially churches—to be good neighbors. At Broadway Methodist in Indianapolis, De'Amon Harges worked with leadership to flip the narrative from charity to asset-based community development. The Learning Tree now consults with organizations, helping them invest in and amplify the gifts present in their neighborhoods.

Final Thoughts:

This episode is a profound reminder that communities thrive when the gifts of every member are seen, valued, and put to use. Instead of perpetuating cycles where only those at the top receive resources, De'Amon Harges and his collaborators are building systems that spread abundance, honor histories, and encourage imaginative risk-taking.

Tune in for more conversations on how to build communities where everyone is needed—and every gift is sacred.

BECAUSE

In this thought-provoking episode, host Philip Amerson reflects on the challenges facing church communities today, especially around the concept of “open doors.” Drawing upon personal experiences, urban insights, and the wisdom of Jane Jacobs, Philip Amerson invites listeners to consider the deeper implications behind hospitality, security, and belonging in religious spaces. Here are three key takeaways:

1. Rethinking Security in Sacred Spaces

Philip Amerson opens the conversation with an honest observation about how churches—once proudly defined by “open hearts, open minds, open doors”—have, in response to modern anxieties and the impacts of COVID, increasingly locked their doors and prioritized visible security. He describes the dissonance of being greeted by security personnel at church and wonders if a T-shirt reading “hospitality” or “welcome” might be a better fit. This prompts a crucial reflection on the tension between safety and genuine openness. Listeners are challenged to think about how their own faith communities balance caution with the call to be welcoming.

2. Community Eyes as the Ultimate Safeguard

Referencing Jane Jacobs’ urban theory from “The Life and Death of Great American Cities,” Philip Amerson explores the idea that neighborhoods experience less crime when more people are present and actively watching out for one another. He shares a powerful story from his time working in Harlem, where community members—uncles, grandmothers, neighbors—provided a web of protection simply by being aware and involved. This real-life example illustrates how churches can be safer and more vibrant by encouraging genuine community interaction, rather than relying solely on formal security measures.

3. Small Steps Toward Belonging and Openness

The episode closes with an encouragement to take practical steps toward unlocking the church—literally and figuratively. Philip Amerson suggests that transformation doesn’t have to be drastic; even opening the church on certain days or hosting community events can slowly foster a sense of belonging. He highlights the importance of overcoming fear and behavioral patterns that make churches exclusive, advocating instead for churches to become true centers of community. The concept of the “belonging exchange” underscores the power of joy, laughter, and welcome in shaping a healthier, safer spiritual environment.

Final Reflections

This episode is an invitation to reconsider what it means for a church to have open doors—not just symbolically, but in practice. By weaving together stories, urban theory, and practical advice, Philip Amerson challenges us all to create spaces where people truly feel seen, welcomed, and safe.

Host: Philip Amerson | Guest: DeAmon Harges

In this transformative episode, host Philip Amerson welcomes DeAmon Harges—known as the “original roving listener” and a pioneering social banker—onto the To Be and Do podcast. DeAmon shares his experiences and insights on interdependence, social capital, and the power of community resources, shifting the conversation from scarcity to abundance.

DeAmon describes his work in Alberta, speaking at the Aging Alberta Summit about the vital importance of interconnectedness across generations and backgrounds. Drawing from his work in Indianapolis, especially on the city's west side, he unpacks his role as a social banker, an archetype rooted in building relationships, trust, and imagination within neighborhoods. The episode is a deep dive into practical community-building fueled by art, story, and celebration.

Here are three key takeaways from this inspiring discussion:

1. Social Capital is Built Through Relationships and Trust

DeAmon redefines the concept of currency, emphasizing that the most valuable resources in a community aren’t found in bank accounts—they’re found in relationships. The “social banker” archetype cultivates intangible assets like trust, networks, and imagination. These elements empower communities to identify and celebrate their gifts, building abundant, beloved communities.

2. Shifting from Scarcity to Abundance Mindsets

A recurring theme is how people are “schooled in scarcity”—often blind to their own talents and resources. DeAmon insists that true community transformation begins by recognizing neighbors as the biggest resource. He shares powerful examples from Indianapolis, where storytelling, art projects like the Doors Project, and neighborhood celebrations helped residents see themselves in a new, empowered light, control their narratives, and challenge external deficit-driven perspectives.

3. Celebrating Community Gifts Through Art and Storytelling

DeAmon explains that parties, storytelling, and the arts are crucial tools for nurturing social capital. Art projects and public celebrations aren’t just entertainment—they’re essential practices for making the invisible resources in a neighborhood visible, fostering pride and connection. Through these practices, his work has led to tangible achievements, like a resident-led live/work corridor featuring affordable housing, an art gallery, and a social credit union—all anchored in relationships and trust.

Don’t miss this episode if you’re interested in how interdependence, imagination, and celebration can transform neighborhoods. DeAmon’s stories and insights offer a refreshing antidote to scarcity thinking and a roadmap for building thriving, resilient communities.

Listen to more episodes and join the movement for abundant communities!

On this reflective episode of "To Be snd Do," host Philip Amerson invites us back to “coffee time” for a warm but honest conversation about hospitality, belonging, and the symbolic (and literal) locked doors of today’s churches and faith communities. With humor, storytelling, and gentle wisdom, Phil challenges us to reimagine what it means to be welcoming—both as individuals and as congregations—and asks how we might shift from insularity to radical interdependence.

Travel with Phil through amusing and poignant stories of visiting churches and denominational headquarters, only to find himself blocked by locked doors and complicated entry systems. Using these real-life moments as metaphors, he explores how our physical spaces reflect deeper patterns of exclusion or openness, and considers what small acts could revolutionize connection in our communities.

Three Takeaways from the Episode:

1. Locked Doors Are More Than Just Practical Barriers

Phil shares relatable stories of being literally locked out of churches and denominational offices, sparking a deeper reflection on how these locked doors symbolize the ways faith communities can become isolated and insular. The irony is poignant, especially for denominations that promote “open hearts, open minds, and open doors.” This episode invites listeners to consider how traditions, fears, or convenience may unintentionally block genuine connection and hospitality.

2. The Power and Importance of Hospitality

Through both his own experiences and those of his colleagues, Phil underscores the importance of joyful, practical hospitality in all corners of church life. He paints a vision of laypeople reclaiming the role of welcoming others—volunteering at front desks or offering coffee and conversation. Phil argues this hospitality does more than just greet newcomers; it creates opportunities for growth, new relationships, and the weaving together of a richer, more inclusive body of faith.

3. Moving from Independence to Interdependence

Phil’s core message is a call to move beyond rugged individualism to embrace the importance of community and interdependence. He eloquently describes the need for the church to unlock not just its doors, but also its mindset—inviting diversity, connection, and shared joy, much like a choir breathing together before singing. By seeking ways to involve others and be involved ourselves, we nurture the body of Christ and embody what it means to truly belong.

Final Thoughts:

With warmth and insight, this episode of "To Be snd Do" challenges us to pause, reflect, and take action. How might you help unlock the doors in your life, your faith community, or your neighborhood? Grab your coffee and listen in—there’s always a seat at the table.

Episode Summary:

In this insightful episode of To Be snd Do, Dr. Steven Curtis unpacks the science behind stress, trauma, and addiction, drawing on both clinical experience and neuroscience. Through compelling stories and clear explanations, Dr. Curtis offers a compassionate look at why addiction often stems from our attempts to manage chronic anxiety—and how brain plasticity plays a key role in healing. He also shares actionable strategies from his new book, designed to help anyone seeking a calmer mind and improved quality of life.

Three Takeaways:

1. Addictions Are Attempts to Soothe Chronic Anxiety

Dr. Curtis explains that addiction—whether to substances, behaviors like sermon-listening, or even worrying—often arises from a need to calm heightened baseline anxiety. As stress hormones flood the body and the emotion-focused regions of the brain become overactive, people increasingly turn to addictive behaviors for brief relief. Over time, this process creates a semi-permanent change in brain structure, making the addiction self-perpetuating unless the underlying stress is addressed.

2. “Chronic Calm” is Essential for Brain Healing

To rebalance the brain’s “teeter totter” between the emotional and rational centers, Dr. Curtis advocates for a sustained period of “chronic calm.” He likens this to putting a cast on a broken arm: just as a bone needs rest to heal, the brain requires daily stress reduction to shrink the overactive emotion centers and regrow the prefrontal cortex. Chapter Four of his book offers fourteen practical strategies—including meditation, mindful walks, and group relaxation exercises—to help integrate calm into everyday life.

3. Lasting Change Requires Overcoming Resistance to the New

Dr. Curtis acknowledges that knowing what to do isn’t enough—most people struggle to implement lasting change because the brain is wired to prefer the familiar, even if it’s unhealthy. He offers guidance for working through this natural resistance, emphasizing that creating new habits (like regular meditation or joining community groups) is critical for long-term recovery. Ultimately, fostering calm isn’t just about personal wellness—it’s essential for rebuilding community and improving collective life quality.

For more insights and practical steps drawn from neuroscience and performance psychology, be sure to listen to the full episode and check out Dr. Curtis’s book, “Rebalancing After Stress, Trauma, and Addiction.”

Phil begins by recounting a memorable experience early in his career: accidentally getting locked in the yard of a synagogue after showing up for a meeting on the wrong week. The story, both funny and revealing, finds Phil anxiously climbing a six-foot fence and imagining headlines about a "Seminary President caught escaping from a Synagogue." His self-aware humor sets the tone for a deeper exploration of how locked doors, though sometimes necessary, can have broader implications for our communities.

He notices that even in small, low-risk towns, churches and synagogues are increasingly locking their doors — a marked shift from the past. Phil highlights the United Methodist Church’s longtime motto, "Open hearts, open minds, open doors," and wonders aloud whether this ideal remains true today.

Phil invites listeners to reflect on their own places of worship or community gathering: Do they exude hospitality, or are they becoming more closed-off and insular? He leaves us pondering whether the trend toward locked doors, both physical and metaphorical, is leading us toward limited connections and narrower communities.

Top Three Takeaways:

1. Physical Barriers Reflect Societal Shifts:
2. Phil’s story highlights how the necessity for locked doors, even in houses of worship, symbolizes a larger move toward caution and reduced communal trust. This shift prompts important questions about how we demonstrate hospitality in our spaces today.
3. Humor Eases Difficult Reflections:
4. By sharing his own embarrassing and lighthearted story of getting locked in and scaling a fence, Phil creates a welcoming space for listeners to consider serious topics — reminding us that vulnerability and laughter can open doors to deeper conversations.
5. Questioning the State of our Communities:
6. The episode ends with an open invitation: reflect on your congregation’s (or community’s) posture toward newcomers. Are we intentionally welcoming, or have locked doors — literal and figurative — become the norm? Phil challenges us to consider what kind of society we want to create moving forward.

Stay tuned for the next episode featuring guest musician Ken Medema, and join Phil as he continues to explore belonging, hospitality, and the spaces that shape us all.

Host: Phillip Amerson

Guest: Dr. Steven Curtis

Welcome to another thought-provoking episode of the To Be and Do podcast with Philip Amerson! In this conversation, Phil welcomes Dr. Steven Curtis, a neuroscience-trained clinical psychologist and author with over three decades of experience in performance psychology. The discussion centers on Dr. Curtis’s forthcoming book, Rebalancing After Stress, Trauma and Addiction, and dives deep into the ways stress, trauma, and addiction impact our brains, our relationships, and the social fabric around us.

Here are three key takeaways from the episode:

1. The Pervasive Impact of Chronic Stress Post-COVID

Dr. Curtis highlights how the COVID pandemic fundamentally shifted our baseline for anxiety and stress, with lingering effects that continue to shape daily life. He shares that 75% of people now feel physically or mentally harmed by stress—a dramatic increase exacerbated by public health crises and societal change. The episode underscores how chronic stress damages our ability to connect with others, leading individuals to become more self-focused and less empathetic, which in turn harms community relationships and wider social order.

2. Understanding Brain Imbalances and Performance Impairment

Dr. Curtis explains the neuroscience behind chronic stress, trauma, and addiction with the metaphor of a teeter-totter: when the emotional region of the brain (driven by fear) grows stronger, it inhibits our rational or prefrontal skills. Over time, this leads to measurable cognitive impairment, including memory issues and decreased intellectual functioning. Dr. Curtis notes that many people, especially seniors, fear dementia, but frequently the real issue stems from anxiety and stress rather than neurodegenerative disease. He debunks common misconceptions and emphasizes hope—most memory problems can be addressed and do not signal inevitable decline.

3. Modern Challenges: Screen Addiction and Youth Mental Health

The conversation raises alarm over the rise of screen and cell phone addiction, especially among young people. Since smartphones became commonplace, rates of depression and anxiety have skyrocketed, with Dr. Curtis referencing university statistics that show nearly half of incoming freshmen now struggle with diagnosable mental health issues. This screen-driven stress isn’t just an individual problem but a “public health tsunami” with global implications affecting decision-making, relationships, and personal well-being.

Stay tuned for the next episode, where Dr. Curtis will share practical strategies for rebalancing our brains and lives, fostering healthier self-motivation, and rebuilding community resilience in the face of modern stressors.

Thank you for joining us on To Be and Do!

Theme: Experiencing Angelus Moments in Everyday Life

In this heartfelt mini-episode, Philip Amerson explores the idea of “Angelus moments”—those rare, holy instances when the world seems to pause and invite us into a state of reflection and prayer. Drawing from personal memories and reflections, Phil encourages listeners to consider where they might encounter such sacred pauses in their own lives.

Three Memorable Takeaways:

1. Angelus as a Universal Call to Prayer
2. Phil shares his experience in a Catholic monastic community, describing how the ringing of the Angelus bells serves as a collective invitation to prayer. These bells, echoing morning, noon, and night, are reminders that prayer is a continuous act—linking individuals around the globe in both solitude and community. Phil beautifully references the songwriter Carrie Newcomer, who found inspiration for her song “Singing in the Dark” at Gethsemane Monastery. The refrain, “there is someone somewhere praying through the darkness,” reinforces the idea that this spiritual practice transcends walls and time zones.
3. Personal ‘Angelus’ Moments as Everyday Acts of Compassion
4. Moving from the monastery to childhood memories, Phil recounts the small but profound sound of his father’s car keys at night. His father, a pastor, would often respond to distressed and angry men in their town—many of whom were struggling with trauma from war. Despite the fear or ugliness of the encounters, Phil’s father would climb out of bed, put on slippers and a robe, and go outside to help. The jingle of keys became, for Phil, his own Angelus—a symbol of tangible care expressed in the darkness. These moments serve as a reminder that “angels” can appear in the form of everyday people choosing kindness.
5. Invitation to Find Your Own Angelus
6. Phil closes the episode with a gentle challenge: What are the Angelus moments in your life? Where have you experienced unexpected calls to compassion, prayer, or silent reflection? Perhaps they’re found in small rituals, simple acts of kindness, or the memory of someone who showed up for others in times of need. Phil’s message encourages listeners to notice and honor these moments—and maybe, to become “angelic” messengers in someone else’s life.

Listen to this episode for a thoughtful meditation on the sacred echoes in our routines, relationships, and the songs that remind us of hope in the dark.

Guests: Amy Rich, John Rich

Host: Philip Amerson

Location: Patchwork Central, Evansville, Indiana

In this episode, host Philip Amerson welcomes back Amy and John Rich, co-directors of Patchwork Central, for the second conversation about their work and vision for building community in Evansville, Indiana. The discussion takes a heartfelt look at the challenges and hopes surrounding Patchwork Central, with an emphasis on the future of social programming, the impact of Medicaid changes, and the spiritual and practical realities of serving a diverse neighborhood.

Three Key Takeaways:

1. Navigating Uncertainty and Gathering Storms

Amy and John express both a deep commitment to their work and significant concern about the future amid systemic funding cuts and increasing barriers for vulnerable populations. Amy describes the environment as being in “Flex,” with so many unknowns affecting the sustainability of Patchwork’s programs—not only due to direct funding but also ripple effects impacting collaborating organizations. John highlights the practical consequences of health policy changes, especially around Medicaid cuts and new work requirements, and foresees an overwhelming surge in need for basic care that may exceed the organization’s capacity.

2. Theological and Cultural Reflections on Poverty

The conversation goes beyond policy to grapple with deeper societal questions. Phillip probes the recurring tendency in American society to blame the poor for their circumstances. John reflects on this issue through a lens combining psychology, cultural history, and theology. He names the ways tribalism, class dynamics, and even church culture can reinforce “us vs. them” mentalities, noting that compassion fatigue and overwhelming societal challenges are causing some faith communities to retreat from active engagement with social justice.

3. Symbols of Resilience and Hope

Asked about the symbols or stories that sustain them, John shares a touching story about a stole pieced together from meaningful fabrics—a reminder of both his calling and his partnership with Amy. He humorously recounts his “Mountain Dew epiphany,” a formative, vision-filled night powered by caffeine and youthful desperation. Amy finds inspiration in Patchwork’s eclectic mix of objects, donated goods, and the unexpected treasures that embody the organization’s resourcefulness and diversity. Together, these symbols represent the unpredictability, creativity, and profound connections at the heart of Patchwork.

Listen in for a candid, thoughtful exploration of what it means to “be and do” in a changing world, and discover why Patchwork Central continues to be a beacon of hope amid uncertainty.

Find out more or donate: https://patchwork.org

In this insightful and reflective episode of To Be and Do, host Philip Amerson invites us into a “because moment,” where he explores the question: Why do we live as people of faith? This week’s focus is on how we approach and interpret scriptures—a subject close to Philip’s heart and crucial for anyone on a spiritual journey.

Philip opens the episode by acknowledging his own spiritual practice: reading a chapter of scripture each morning, recently starting (somewhat unintentionally) with the Gospel of John. He encourages listeners to do the same, but not just as a routine or checklist item. Instead, he challenges us to dive into the diversity and depth found within the sacred texts.

Using relatable stories and examples, Philip explains that scripture is far more than a rule book or a collection of spiritual remedies. It’s a library—a gathering of poetry, history, songs, sermons, prophecy, and even the cryptic symbolism of apocalyptic visions. This richness, he notes, is sometimes lost when people misquote or misinterpret familiar verses.

A particularly enlightening moment in the episode comes when Philip recounts hearing a young man on television use the phrase “turn the other cheek” incorrectly, framing it as a form of retribution or cosmic payback. Philip gently corrects this misunderstanding, reminding us that Jesus’s call to turn the other cheek is about responding to insult or betrayal not with retaliation, but with radical grace—a genuinely difficult but powerful practice for people of faith.

He points out another common misreading: “the rain falls on the just and the unjust.” Rather than a cynical comment on suffering, Phillip clarifies that, in the arid Middle East, rain is a blessing. The verse is about God’s grace being poured out universally, not indiscriminately distributed hardship.

Philip encourages listeners to actively engage with scripture—struggling with the text, questioning, and seeking to understand what’s truly being said, rather than accepting easy or mistaken interpretations.

He ends by inviting us to read the second chapter of John, reflecting especially on the story of Jesus turning water into wine, promising to return to discuss its deeper meanings in future episodes.

Key Takeaways:

1. Scripture is not just a rule book—it’s a diverse library meant to be read thoughtfully and deeply.
2. Misusing scripture can lead to missing its core, often counterintuitive, messages.
3. Familiar verses like “turn the other cheek” or “the rain falls on the just and the unjust” are often misunderstood—context and cultural background matter.
4. Engage actively with scripture: read, question, and wrestle with its meaning as part of living a life of faith.
5. Begin with a chapter a day—Phillip suggests the Gospel of John—and allow its stories to spark deeper reflection.

Join us next time for more thoughtful, faith-filled conversation. God bless!

Host: Philip Amerson

In this inspiring episode of To Be and Do, host Philip Amerson sits down with Amy and John Rich, the dedicated co-directors at Patchwork Central—a vibrant outreach hub in Evansville, Indiana. Together, they share stories, insights, and the ethos behind Patchwork’s unique approach to nurturing a thriving, supportive community.

From their daily routines to life-changing ministry work, Amy and John offer a glimpse into the “meandering discipleship” that defines their service. Through personal reflections and practical details, listeners gain a deeper understanding of the joys and challenges of sustaining grassroots community action.

Three Key Takeaways:

1. Holistic Community Engagement Matters:
2. Patchwork Central is not just a collection of ministries—it's a living, breathing network that addresses a wide spectrum of community needs. Each day, Patchwork opens its doors to anyone in need, offering everything from hospitality and hot coffee to showers, hygiene supplies, bike repairs, and food assistance. In the afternoons, energy shifts to arts-focused after-school programs for children—emphasizing that service doesn’t silo people or issues, but embraces the whole person.
3. Adaptability is a Strength:
4. Both Amy and John describe Patchwork’s approach as “open-ended” and “meandering,” a testament to their adaptability. Each day brings new, often unexpected challenges, and Patchwork responds by evolving its ministries to match current needs. Whether it's partnering with local First Friday arts events or dealing with the realities of gentrification and institutional changes in the neighborhood, flexibility remains their hallmark.
5. Integrating Calling and Skill:
6. John’s journey from being inspired by social justice movements to simultaneously pursuing ministry and nursing showcases the value of blending personal calling with professional skills. His creation of the Sozo Health Ministry at Patchwork—a hybrid role between neighborhood nurse and street chaplain—exemplifies how meaningful change can arise from integrating diverse passions. Patchwork’s holistic framework empowers individuals to bring their whole selves to the community, creating ripple effects far beyond what’s written in any organizational mission statement.

Final Thoughts:

This episode beautifully illustrates that genuine, transformative community work is messy, joyful, and always evolving. Patchwork Central’s story is a testament to the power of collective vision, rooted in trust, flexibility, and the embrace of everyone’s humanity. Tune in for heartfelt dialogue and practical examples of what it means “to be and to do”—together.

Learn more about Patchwork Central and stay tuned for part two of this conversation, where we look toward the future and the symbols that keep hope alive.

www.patchwork.org

Episode Summary: In this brief yet profound "Because" episode of To Be and Do, host Philip Amerson offers listeners one of his signature “because moments,” centering this reflection on the wisdom of Rabbi Abraham Joshua Heschel. Amerson delves into Heschel’s teachings about the journey toward healthy righteousness and what it means to live more faithfully. Drawing from Heschel’s thoughts, this episode invites us to consider the role of embarrassment—not as shame, but as an essential first step toward personal and spiritual growth.

Three Key Takeaways:

1. The Transformational Power of Embarrassment

Phillip Amerson highlights Heschel's belief that "the cure of the soul begins with a sense of embarrassment." This essential insight reframes embarrassment—not as a negative feeling to be avoided, but as a catalyst for deeper self-awareness and change. When we’re confronted by our own pettiness, prejudices, envies, and conceits, Amerson suggests, it’s that very discomfort that can awaken our desire for personal transformation and encourage us to move in healthier, more faithful directions.

2. Recognizing Life’s Grandeur Amidst Pettiness

Amerson borrows Heschel’s striking imagery, reminding us that we live in “a world that is full of grandeur," and yet how often we miss appreciating its goodness. Too frequently, we fall into patterns of negativity and reduce life to a mere carnival, forgetting to rejoice in all that is good. The invitation here is both simple and powerful: cultivate awareness and humility to recognize and celebrate the holiness and beauty around us, rather than taking it for granted or succumbing to cynicism.

3. Embarrassment as an Invitation to Greater Compassion

The episode closes with a reminder that our moments of embarrassment—when we fall short, act small, or forget divine care—is not a cause for despair, but a chance to reorient ourselves toward compassion for others and ourselves. Recognizing when we miss the mark should lead us not only to self-improvement, but also to understanding the shared human condition. Amerson leaves listeners with a blessing: may we all become more attuned to the sacred, realizing that God's care reaches everyone, always.

Final Thought:

This episode encourages us to embrace those uncomfortable moments as the beginning of growth, to let smallness lead us to greater kindness, and to return again and again to the awareness of divine presence in all things. If you’re seeking a reflective push toward personal and spiritual renewal, let Heschel’s wisdom—delivered through Amerson’s thoughtful words—guide your way.

Three Key Takeaways from the Episode:

1. Building Community Starts at the Grassroots Level

Phil reflects on a recent group chat about building a new hospital and how the conversation quickly centered on competition, costs, and staffing. Instead of merely expanding infrastructure and professions, he invites us to consider: What if investment focused on building community rather than just buildings or professional expertise? He shares the wisdom of Dr. John Rich, who urges communities to identify their "natural healers" and empower local community health workers. This grassroots approach leverages existing relationships and neighborhood strengths to boost health outcomes and creates environments where people support each other beyond professional roles.

2. Congregations (and Other Institutions) Must Reclaim Their Communal Role

Drawing from sociologist Brian Wilson, Phil discusses how American churches have shifted over time, emphasizing individualized experiences instead of facilitating true community. He notes that institutions like churches and hospitals often become "objects" for self-fulfillment or professional service, losing sight of their broader communal purpose. The healthiest congregations help people wrestle with important questions—“Who is my neighbor?” and “Who am I?”—while embracing the value of confession, self-awareness, and shared frailty. Real transformation, he argues, happens not through programs and expertise alone, but through meaningful presence and authentic connection.

3. Self-Care Begins With Self-Awareness—And Is Rooted in Community

Phil cautions against the current emphasis on self-care without first practicing self-awareness. Recognizing our limitations, frailties, and blind spots isn’t just an individual exercise but one that flourishes within supportive, honest communities. By engaging with others—asking questions, offering small acts of kindness, or simply giving a word of encouragement—we weave stronger bonds that benefit everyone. In both spiritual and secular spaces, being part of a community where people notice, listen, and genuinely care is essential for individual and collective health.

In Closing:

Phillip encourages listeners to "create good trouble" by reaching out, being more present, and valuing relationships over professionalism. Whether through a simple greeting at the hospital or by participating in a congregation, we can all foster spaces of belonging and healing. As he beautifully reminds us, "the love of God is the basis for everything"—and it is realized most deeply whenever we intentionally build up the communities we inhabit.

Thank you for listening to the To Be and Do podcast. May you be inspired to nurture both yourself and the world around you.

Three Takeaways from the Episode:

1. Life and Grace Are Already Present

Philip Amerson encourages listeners to consider that the life and grace described in the Gospel of John aren’t distant promises but realities already present and available to each of us. He highlights, "The Word already was," underscoring the deep idea that connection with the divine doesn’t have to be earned or awaited—it’s a gift that exists now. This perspective calls for trust that God’s love and grace are constants, not variables.

2. Grace Often Appears When We Feel Lost

Through a personal story about his friend, Methodist pastor Emory Purcell, who became lost with his son while hiking in Colorado, Phillip illustrates how moments of deep need can reveal the true nature of grace. Seeing a park ranger searching for them from across the valley, Emory redefined grace "as being found in the wilderness." This story serves as a metaphor for all listeners: even when we feel most disoriented or alone, we may discover unexpected help and compassion—signs of grace waiting just beyond view.

3. Daily Practices Nurture Spiritual Connection

As the episode closes, Philip Amerson offers practical advice: begin each morning by reading a scripture passage, praying for others, and fostering new friendships. These small but intentional actions allow listeners to “learn to be friends in new ways” and experience God’s presence throughout the day. The hosts wrap with a note of encouragement—reframing morning coffee time as a moment to taste "a cup of love and laughter."

Final Thoughts:

Tune in to strengthen your sense of presence and gratitude, and to remember that—no matter what wilderness you may find yourself in—grace is always near. "To Be snd Do" invites us all to wake up to these truths, one cup and one day at a time.

Three Key Takeaways:

1. Resilience and Revival in the Face of Change
2. Bishop Malone addresses the difficult journey of disaffiliation within the United Methodist Church—a process that intensified after the 2019 General Conference. While acknowledging the pain of some churches leaving, she reframes the narrative: instead of a “split,” she describes what has happened as a “splintering,” emphasizing that the church remains a diverse and unified body. She celebrates the enduring commitment of congregations who have chosen to stay, remain mission-focused, and embody a church where all are beloved and belong, amplifying that their collective task is now to carry forward the mission and not dwell on who has left.
3. Stories of Faithfulness and Community Impact in Indiana
4. Since arriving in Indiana a year ago, Bishop Malone has intentionally visited all parts of the state to listen, learn, and witness ministry at every level. She’s been inspired by the resilience, creativity, and faithfulness she’s encountered—from small congregations feeding the hungry and nurturing young leaders, to groups uniting around issues of justice like advocating against new detention centers. Bishop Malone’s deep engagement underscores her conviction that Indiana’s churches are vital, adaptable, and eager to discover new forms of ministry that meet emerging needs.
5. Rooted in Legacy and Sustained by Prayer
6. Both Phil and Bishop Malone reflect on how their own spiritual journeys are shaped by mentors, family, and sacred memories. For Bishop Malone, a cherished photo of her late mother, April Smith, serves as a reminder of unwavering faith and joy even amid hardship. She invites listeners to join her in prayer for the revitalization of churches in Indiana and across the world, trusting that renewed congregation life leads to renewed communities. Her story is an invitation to hold on to joy, seek God’s guidance, and remember the cloud of witnesses—both past and present—who empower us to move forward.

Tune in to be inspired by the stories, wisdom, and prayers that shape the movement of God’s people in Indiana and beyond.

Episode Summary:

Phil opens the episode by inviting listeners into a “coffee time moment.” He reflects on the joy of being present with friends and the spiritual sparks that seemingly ordinary occasions can ignite. Drawing from the Gospel of John, Phil highlights the transformative words of Jesus: “I no longer call you servants, but I call you friends.” This scripture forms the basis for a deeper reflection on the value of friendship and the challenge to move beyond mere roles or titles in our relationships.

To illustrate friendship’s transformative potential, Phil recounts a moving story from Spain during the Inquisition, where a rabbi and an imam—once strangers and presumed enemies—become friends through simple, honest conversation. This, he suggests, is the spirit we’re all invited to embody through intentional acts of befriending.

Phil concludes by encouraging listeners to share a “coffee time” with another, reminding us that every moment can become a cup of “love and laughter.”

Three Key Takeaways:

1. Scriptures Can Spark Spiritual Awakening
2. Phil encourages listeners not just to read, but to experience the Bible as a living document. Scripture, he suggests, is filled with “time bombs of spirituality”—moments that can surprise us with relevance and power, especially when we slow down and listen for deeper meaning.
3. From Servants to Friends: The Power of Redefining Relationships
4. Drawing from Jesus’s invitation in John 15, Phil emphasizes the shift from mere servanthood to authentic friendship. He invites us to consider: Who in our lives do we view from a hierarchical lens, and how might we foster genuine friendship instead? This shift can transform not only our relationships but our communities.
5. Coffee Time: Making Space for Connection and Understanding
6. The episode spotlights the simple, sacred act of gathering with others. Through the story of the rabbi and imam, Phil demonstrates how sharing conversation—even (and especially) across lines of difference—fosters connection, breaks down barriers, and turns strangers into friends.

Final Thought:

As Ken Medema’s lyrics suggest, every day offers a new chance for “a cup of love and laughter.” Whom will you invite for coffee time today?

Episode: Global United Methodism: Bishop Malone’s Insights on Vibrancy Across Continents

Guest: Bishop Tracy Smith Malone | Host: Philip Amerson

In this warm and inspiring episode of "To Be and Do," host Philip Amerson sits down with Bishop Tracy Smith Malone, the area bishop for Indiana and the President of the United Methodist Church’s Council of Bishops. Friends since 1990, Phil and Bishop Malone reflect on family, faith, global ministry, and the evolving role of women and international leaders in the United Methodist Church.

Here are three powerful takeaways from their conversation:

1. Celebrating a History-Making Leader

Bishop Tracy Smith Malone shares her journey as the first female Episcopal leader in Indiana—a landmark in the state’s religious history. As both men and women, especially young women, in Indiana celebrate her trailblazing role, Bishop Malone humbly emphasizes that her leadership isn't just a personal victory but a milestone for women and the wider church community. She stands on the shoulders of pioneering bishops like Marjorie Matthews and Leontine Kelly, and highlights how representation at the highest levels of the church continues to matter, inspiring new generations of leaders.

2. A Vibrant and Growing Global Church

Bishop Malone, in her role as president of the Council of Bishops, frequently travels internationally and offers listeners a firsthand look at United Methodism’s global impact. She describes the extraordinary growth and dynamic vitality of the church in Africa, the Caribbean, Latin America, the Philippines, and Europe. These churches are not just surviving—they’re thriving, often in the face of adversity. She speaks of vibrant worship, deep discipleship, and a radical hospitality that demonstrates what it means to depend on God’s grace. The episode reminds us that international churches are subjects and partners in ministry, not simply recipients of mission work.

3. True Connectionalism and Mutual Learning

The conversation underscores the United Methodist Church's truly connectional nature, with clergy and lay leadership moving and serving around the globe. Indiana, for example, now welcomes clergy from Africa, Latin America, and beyond, infusing local congregations with renewed vitality, wisdom, and experience. Bishop Malone and Phil Amerson reflect on the importance of “guest-ability”—the humility to be present, to learn, and to be transformed by the church in other cultures, rather than always assuming a position of helping or teaching.

Listen in for stories of faith, leadership, and community that bridge continents, challenge traditions, and invite us all to a deeper, global understanding of church.

Today’s installment is the third in Phil’s “Because” series—short, insightful thought experiments that challenge us to examine our inner lives beyond the surface. Phil raises a fundamental question: How do we know ourselves, and where do we draw our strength and hope each day? He gently nudges listeners to consider their morning routines, observing how easy it is for faith—especially Christianity—to become just an “outer garment,” a thin veneer that doesn’t truly shape who we are.

Phil expresses concern that the practice of starting the day with prayer and scripture reading is fading among many Christians. He notes that for too many, faith can become a superficial label rather than a source of authentic guidance and identity. To counter this trend, Phil proposes a simple experiment: For the next week—or, if you are up for it, the next month—begin each morning with a time of prayer, followed by reading a chapter from the New Testament, especially the Gospels. He recommends starting with the Gospel of John, inviting listeners to engage more deeply with their spiritual roots.

Throughout the episode, Phil emphasizes the desire to be more than “shallow Christians,” urging all people of faith to build practices that cultivate inner depth and genuine presence. The goal is to let faith sink beneath the surface—to become the foundation of who we are and how we move through the world.

Key Takeaways:

1. Examine Your Routine: Reflect on how your morning habits influence your spiritual and personal identity.
2. Go Beyond the Surface: Avoid letting your faith—or core values—become a mere outward label; let them inform and transform your inner life.
3. Daily Devotion: Consider the power of starting each day with prayer and reading a chapter from the Gospels, nurturing a habit of intentional reflection.
4. Cultivate Depth: Strive to be more than a “shallow” practitioner by cultivating substantive, daily spiritual practices that shape your character and actions.
5. Ongoing Challenge: Phil encourages listeners to make this a lasting change, checking in on their spiritual progress and allowing these practices to lead to lasting growth.

Ending with a warm benediction—“From now till ever after, it’s a cup of love and laughter. So come on, old friend, it’s coffee time again”—Phil leaves us with both comfort and a gentle challenge: Let’s make every morning a little more meaningful.

Guest: Seana Murphy | Host: Philip Amerson

In this special encore episode of the To Be and Do podcast, host Philip Amerson welcomes back Seana Murphy, the newly appointed Executive Director of the Martin Luther King Jr. Center in Indianapolis. Seana's return is cause for celebration, and her wisdom is as timely as ever. Drawing on her lived experience growing up in Indianapolis, serving in community organizations, and raising her son, Seana shares lessons on resilience, abundance, and seeing the unseen strengths of community life.

Three Key Takeaways:

1. The Invisible Economies of Community

Seana reflects on her upbringing in a so-called "low wealth" neighborhood, challenging perceptions of scarcity by highlighting the "invisible economies" that exist when communities rally around each other. Whether it was the neighbor who helped save a trapped bird or the man who taught neighborhood kids about lawn care, Seana reminds us that resources aren't always monetary – they're rooted in skills, care, and support exchanged daily. These invisible support networks, often overlooked by outsiders and traditional social services, are vital to the fabric of healthy communities.

2. Resilience Is Born of Both Challenge and Connection

As someone who experienced desegregation firsthand, Seana shares the toll it took on children, emphasizing that “being poor is not romantic,” and yet, there was always a safety net in the unity of her neighbors. She points out the unfair burden of resilience that marginalized kids carry—the kind that isn’t always recognized or rewarded by mainstream society. Despite this, that same resilience, coupled with a strong faith tradition, has powered her professional life and ongoing advocacy.

3. Reframing Abundance: Asking Better Questions

A recurring thread in the conversation is how abundance often goes unnoticed unless we intentionally look for it. Seana tells a story of helping a doctor shift her approach with patients by encouraging her to ask about their lives beyond medical histories—discovering joys, routines, and relationships that shape well-being. This reorientation toward curiosity, play, and connection not only improves care but also amplifies the strengths already present in any community.

Links:

• Listen to Seana’s previous appearance on the podcast https://www.belongingexchange.org/love-risk-and-community-lessons-in-belonging-with-seana-murphy/.
• Learn more about the Martin Luther King Jr. Center [organization link].

Tune in for a powerful reminder that our communities hold more than meets the eye—and it’s up to all of us to look, listen, and learn from the abundance around us.

Welcome back to “To Be and Do” and our special mini-series, the “Because” podcast! In this concise and heartfelt second installment, host Philip Amerson turns his focus to a universal need—encouragement. Drawing inspiration from both ancient scripture and a captivating modern parable, Phil unpacks why, how, and where we find the courage to push forward, especially during challenging times.

Phil opens by inviting us into a reflective moment: Where do you find courage? Where do you feel discouraged? He reminds us that encouragement often flourishes in community—through the support and presence of others. Quoting the Apostle Paul’s letter to the Thessalonians, Phil emphasizes the importance of continually lifting one another up: “Encourage one another as you have been doing, for this is the work of God.”

He brings the message home with a poignant reminder from the classroom. First grade teachers, he shares, open their doors each fall, hoping their students arrive knowing basics like the alphabet, numbers, or even just their names. Heartbreakingly, some children don’t even know their own true names—sometimes only nicknames, or names that carry the sting of teasing. It’s a gentle but powerful illustration of how vital encouragement and true recognition can be for young hearts (and adults, too).

Phil’s episode crescendos with a remarkable story about Greek scholar Alexander Papandreas. When jokingly asked about the meaning of life, Papandreas offers a deeply visual answer. He produces a small mirror he’s carried since childhood—a fragment salvaged from a World War II wreck, shaped and polished over years. With this mirror, Papandreas explains, he learned to reflect light into dark places, even if he was not the source of the light. His life’s purpose, he shares, is to aim that light wherever there is darkness.

Phil closes with a call to action: Let each of us shine a bit of light for others—remind every child and adult they are, above all, a Beloved Child of God.

Key Takeaways:

1. Encouragement is Essential: We all need support, and sharing encouragement is part of our collective work.
2. Recognition Matters: Sometimes, positive words and simply knowing one’s name can change a life, especially for children.
3. Be a Reflector of Light: Even if we’re not the source, we can help illuminate others’ paths in dark times.
4. Everyone Deserves to be Called ‘Beloved’: Affirming others’ worth can be a simple but profound gift.

Tune in for this warm reminder that we’re all connected by our ability—and calling—to lift one another up.

The episode opens with a powerful “Heart Felt” segment, where Philip Amerson highlights research showing that while basic financial security greatly enhances wellbeing, ever-increasing wealth doesn't correlate with increased happiness. This serves as a poignant backdrop for the episode's central themes of justice, action, and what it truly means to make a difference.

Key Takeaways from this Episode:

1. The Power of Understanding History:
2. Dr. Nelms stresses that genuinely striving for positive change begins with grasping the lessons of history. He reminds listeners that society’s challenges are rarely new, and historical context is essential for wise action and deeper empathy.
3. Personal Responsibility Is Essential:
4. A recurring message in the conversation is summed up by Dr. Nelms’s reminder, “We are they.” He argues that passively waiting for others to solve societal problems is futile; change starts with each of us choosing to act, even in small but meaningful ways.
5. Embrace Discomfort and Direct Involvement:
6. Sharing personal stories, both Amerson and Nelms talk about stepping out of comfort zones—whether by physically helping at a winter shelter or directly supporting someone in need. Dr. Nelms believes that these tangible acts not only aid others but also cultivate gratitude and humility within ourselves.
7. Start Small, But Start Now:
8. Echoing the wisdom that “the best time to plant a tree was 50 years ago, [but] the second best time is right now,” the episode encourages listeners to begin with whatever is within their reach. Rather than aiming for dozens of actions, even one or two authentic efforts, done consistently, can make a profound impact.
9. A Reminder of Transformation Through Education:
10. In a moving heartwarming story, Dr. Nelms talks about the bowl of cotton he keeps on his desk—a symbol of his journey from the fields to educational leadership. He reflects on how education changed the trajectory of his life, reminding us all of the transformative power of opportunity.

As the episode concludes, listeners are left with an inspiring nudge: Don’t just talk about change—be the hands and heart of a stronger, more connected community. For more stories, resources, and to catch previous episodes, visit belongingexchange.org.

Share the episode, spark a conversation, and start your own journey from being to doing.

Host: Philip Amerson (he/him)

Episode Theme: Preventing “Truth Decay” in Our Everyday Lives

In this thoughtful and concise episode of To Be and Do, host Philip Amerson reflects on the importance of truthfulness in everyday life, drawing on personal anecdotes, biblical references, and a bit of humor. Responding to listener requests for shorter “thought for the day” segments, Philip offers insights into how we can all work to “prevent truth decay” in a world often clouded by misinformation.

Three Key Takeaways:

1. Mindful Communication: The Power of Words

• Philip underscores how easily gossip can take the place of truth in our conversations, even admitting his own missteps in spreading unverified information. He humorously notes the similarity between the words “gospel” and “gossip,” encouraging listeners to pause and check facts before passing information along. This reminder rings especially true in today's fast-paced, rumor-driven culture.

1. The Timeless Search for Truth

• Referencing John’s Gospel and the story of Pilate’s question, “What is truth?”, Philip illustrates how the quest for truth is not just an ancient concern, but one that persists in our modern lives. He highlights how moments from history and scripture still challenge us to examine our relationship with honesty and authenticity.

1. Truth as a Core Value—Spiritually and Socially

• Drawing from the Ten Commandments, Philip points out that “thou shalt not steal” can apply not only to material possessions but also to stealing truth itself. He urges listeners to guard against “truth decay” just as diligently as they would protect their own property. Living truthfully is presented not just as a personal responsibility, but as a moral and spiritual imperative.

Memorable Quote:

“Learn the lessons I’ve learned over my many years that truth decay is something we need to prevent.”

Final Thought:

With signature warmth and a cup of coffee in hand, Philip wraps up this mini-episode by inviting listeners to reflect on the role of truth in their lives and relationships. His humor, humility, and wisdom set the tone for more short-form reflections to come.

Tune in next week for another shot of inspiration with your coffee!

The episode begins with the Heartfelt segment, where Philip Amerson reflects on the power of place and memory. Crossing the Ohio River, he’s reminded of childhood lessons from Ms. Stella Newhouse under the sycamore trees of Scribner Park—stories of kindness and learning, shaping him into the person he is today. Philip challenges listeners to recall the places and moments that helped them to see the world through compassionate eyes, encouraging everyone to notice how everyday places can shape our journeys.

The heart of the episode is a rich conversation with Dr. Charlie Nelms, esteemed educator and long-term advocate for equity, access, and opportunity. Dr. Nelms shares wisdom from a life spent advancing educational opportunities for marginalized communities, from his roots in the Arkansas Delta to roles as university chancellor and a mentor for aspiring leaders. He brings a message of perseverance and hope, even as current challenges threaten progress in diversity and equity.

Dr. Nelms urges listeners not to be discouraged, drawing on the resilience of African American history and the ongoing fight for justice from 1619 through the present. He distinguishes between the structure of DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) initiatives and the enduring substance of equity work—a crucial reminder that while policies and language may shift, the commitment to the core values must remain strong.

A particularly moving moment comes when Dr. Nelms shares a personal artifact: a recording of his mother’s voice, offering wisdom and inspiration. He details how replaying her words carried him through times of discouragement, reinforcing the importance of heritage, family, and self-belief.

The show closes with Dr. Nelms’ heartwarming story of standing in the footsteps of giants at Lincoln University, underscoring the power of legacy, history, and community action.

Key Takeaways:

1. The Power of Place and Memory: The spaces and people from our past shape us and can inspire compassion and purpose today.
2. History as Support and Guidance: Understanding and drawing strength from our history is vital—especially in challenging times.
3. Education is the Engine of Opportunity: Education remains the greatest equalizer and pathway to equity and democracy.
4. Resilient Commitment: Despite obstacles, staying committed to the substance of equity and justice work is essential.
5. Personal Legacy and Encouragement: Leaning on the wisdom and love from those who came before us can sustain us in tough times.

For more stories, resources, and a sense of community, visit belongingexchange.org.

The episode opens with Ken Medema’s evocative lyrics about the world rushing toward “judgment day,” providing a poignant backdrop for the episode’s exploration of how we encounter others—especially strangers—and how we sometimes unwittingly build barriers rather than bridges.

Learning from Strangers

The conversation takes us through personal anecdotes, beginning with Phil recalling a pivotal lesson from Will Campbell, a Southern Baptist minister and civil rights activist. When faced with Ku Klux Klan activity in Evansville, Indiana, Campbell advised Phil not to view Klan members simply as outsiders or enemies, but to ask their names—to see their humanity rather than their role as threats.” This profound insight shapes the discussion on how “the stranger” can sometimes become the host, opening doors to new ways of seeing the world and to unexpected gifts.

Rethinking Safety and Relationships

Jonathan Massimi reflects on how our early education, with its “stranger danger” warnings, teaches us to fear difference and to locate safety in institutional figures rather than genuine relationships. As a priest and community leader, Jonathan warns of the pitfalls of entering communities with a “fixer” mentality or as an “invasive species,” bringing supposed solutions without building reciprocal, authentic connections.

Backpacks, Coffee, and Mutual Exchange

The conversation sharply critiques well-intentioned charity, using church “backpack drives” and community events as examples. Jonathan and Phil challenge listeners to move beyond one-directional giving—where “help” is offered without relationship or mutuality. They share stories where coffee, conversation, and even vulnerability lead to authentic belonging. Jonathan introduces his “belonging APGAR” checklist, emphasizing: knowing names, exchanging gifts, social standing, and being missed when absent.

Key Takeaways:

1. See the Stranger as Host: True belonging happens when we are open to seeing those different from us not as “others,” but as potential friends — even as teachers or hosts.
2. Move Beyond Transaction: Charity becomes transformative when it shifts from transactional (giving things away) to relational and reciprocal (exchanging presence, gifts, and stories).
3. Cultivate Mutuality: Enter communities gently, like tending a garden, and avoid being the “invasive species” who assumes to know what’s best.
4. Practice True Hospitality: Belonging is more than service projects; it is knowing and being known, creating spaces where presence matters and absence is felt.
5. Question Institutional "Helping": Institutions and roles don’t guarantee trust. Real relationships are built in neutral places—over coffee, through conversation, and patient presence.

For more resources and to join the conversation, visit belongingexchange.org—and remember, “it’s coffee time again!”

At the core of this dialogue is the concept of asset-based community development (ABCD). Jonathan Massimi reflects on how, too often, communities and individuals are viewed through a lens of scarcity—a framework that emphasizes problems rather than potential. Instead, he advocates for shifting the narrative toward recognizing and celebrating the inherent gifts that people bring, often expressed through their stories and lived experiences.

Philip Amerson connects this idea to the spiritual practice of the Eucharist, describing it as not just a ritual, but a full-bodied experience that offers a "grammar" for how we live and interact. Through liturgy and storytelling, he explains, we cultivate ways of seeing ourselves and others that are grounded in abundance and mutual gratitude, rather than deficiency.

Listeners are treated to heartfelt anecdotes from the hosts’ own ministries, such as stories of healing circles where vulnerability leads to laughter and real transformation, and tales of building trust with those often labeled as outsiders. Whether it’s sharing a humble meal or receiving hospitality from someone society might overlook, these experiences illuminate the radical value and belonging every person offers.

Ultimately, the episode circles back to the importance of interdependence over independence. By learning to approach others as guests—embracing humility and curiosity—we open ourselves to new ways of seeing and being, finding strength and faith not just in ourselves, but through our neighbors.

Key Takeaways:

1. Focus on Gifts, Not Deficits: Asset-based community development transforms how we see people and communities, emphasizing strengths over shortcomings.
2. The Power of Story: Stories are the “currency of the streets,” holding deep value for connecting people and fostering belonging.
3. Hospitality as a Spiritual Practice: True belonging often comes when we position ourselves as guests, open to receive the gifts of those around us.
4. Interdependence Matters: Genuine community thrives when we cherish interdependence over rugged independence.
5. Surprise and Transformation: By peeling back the “labels” placed on others, we discover unexpected gifts and new perspectives that challenge and enrich us.

For more on fostering belonging in your community, visit belongingexchange.org. Listen in and start your own journey toward seeing abundance and connection in the world around you.

Jonathan is the director of Civic Bloom, a social enterprise actively nurturing community engagement and flourishing. Through his unique perspective—blending neighborhood activism with spiritual formation—Jonathan illustrates how asset-based community development can inspire lasting, positive change both within and beyond faith communities. Listeners are taken on his journey from reading John McKnight’s influential work, “The Abundant Community,” to forming a personal mentorship with McKnight himself, whose legacy and curiosity continue to ripple through Jonathan’s practice and purpose.

Here are a few key takeaways from this thought-provoking conversation:

1. The Power of Asset-Based Community Development:

Jonathan shares how focusing on the unique gifts and assets within a community unlocks avenues for growth and belonging. Drawing from his church-planting experiences, he underscores how celebrating abundance—rather than dwelling on scarcity—changes everything.

2. Spiritual Formation and Community Building Go Hand-in-Hand:

As an Anglican priest, Jonathan reflects on liturgy and Eucharist not just as rituals, but as formative community practices. He likens the Eucharist to a gift exchange, symbolizing abundance and reciprocity, shaping participants to “taste God in the world” and recognize everyday opportunities for connection.

3. The Legacy of John McKnight and Curiosity as Community Practice:

Jonathan recounts his regular conversations with the late John McKnight, whose work in asset-based community development emphasized generous curiosity and connection over prescriptive solutions. This relational approach fosters networks where practitioners support and learn from one another.

4. Institutions, Faith, and Healthy Skepticism:

Drawing upon Ivan Illich’s influence on McKnight, Jonathan explores a “healthy suspicion of institutions.” Keeping institutions accountable and grounded in community realities ensures they serve rather than dominate.

Whether you’re a community organizer, faith leader, or someone passionate about belonging, this episode invites you to reflect on how your beliefs translate into action, and how honoring abundance can transform both congregations and neighborhoods.

For more insights and to connect, visit belongingexchange.org.

Join us next time as we continue our journey into nurturing vibrant, interconnected communities—one relationship at a time.

Three Key Takeaways

1. The “Gospel Conspiracy” Is a Call to Wholeness

Phil introduces the idea that being both “to be” and “to do” serves as a foundation for holistic living. This form of wholeness means not pretending to be something you’re not or acting inauthentically—it’s about striving for integrity, especially as a person of faith. He acknowledges that throughout history, followers of Jesus and people of faith have faced difficult political regimes and social upheaval, but a core of genuine faith and practice endures and guides us toward something whole and true.

2. Faith Transcends Nationalism—It’s About Kinship and Justice

Challenging narrow patriotism, Phil proclaims that belonging to the “kingdom (or kinship) of God” is ultimately a higher allegiance than any country or political slogan. He critiques Christian nationalism and the historical injustices within America, advocating for a vision of faith that prioritizes justice, equality, and community over exclusion or individualistic salvation. Faithful living requires naming and resisting racism, bigotry, and any form of oppression masquerading as righteousness.

3. Practicing the Gospel Conspiracy Is an Ongoing, Communal Cycle

Phil shares a practical framework for living out the Gospel Conspiracy—a cycle that includes:

• Praying and meditating
• Observing and listening
• Studying and learning
• Repenting and reconciling
• Joining with others in community
• Singing, dancing, and celebrating
• Raising your voice and taking direct action
• Returning to prayer and reflection

This is not a one-time checklist, but a repeating process that deepens one’s commitment to justice and connection. Phil encourages listeners to reach out for additional resources, engage in conversation—even disagreement—and, above all, to join the ongoing journey toward a more just and loving world.

Like what you heard?

Get more content and request the resources mentioned by reaching out at belongingexchange.org. Phil welcomes your questions, feedback, and participation in this transformative conversation.

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In this powerful and timely episode of To Be and Do, host Phil Amerson delves into the deeply rooted challenges of racism in America, particularly in light of recent events and ongoing debates around DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion). Drawing from his personal journey, decades of academic research, and lived experience, Phil unpacks what it will take for both faith communities and the wider society to confront and interrupt the cycles of bigotry and exclusion that persist today.

Phil begins by reflecting on recent public statements that scapegoat diversity initiatives and perpetuate harmful stereotypes. He reminds listeners that the U.S. is inherently a multicultural nation, and that living into this reality is not just a societal challenge but also a profound opportunity—one that resounds deeply with both constitutional and Christian principles of equality.

Three Key Takeaways:

1. Racism is More than an Attitude—it’s Institutional and Cultural Phil moves beyond the common notion that racism is simply a matter of personal prejudice. Instead, he outlines four dimensions: attitudinal, behavioral, institutional, and cultural. Attitudes and behaviors are only part of the problem; structural and cultural systems often perpetuate discrimination regardless of individuals' intentions. Historical examples, such as resistance to school integration, demonstrate how deeply racism can be embedded in organizational practices and community norms.

2. Real Change Requires Action and Relationship, Not Just Talk Phil’s research, funded by the Project Understanding initiative, revealed that sermons and classroom learning about racism, while important, are not sufficient to change attitudes or dismantle prejudices. The most meaningful transformation happened when people from different racial backgrounds engaged in shared tasks—like apartment-hunting together or volunteering side-by-side—allowing them to witness discrimination firsthand and develop real relationships. Experiencing and discussing these realities together fosters empathy and sparks genuine change.

3. The Church Must Move Beyond Words to Meaningful Inclusion Despite lofty rhetoric about love and inclusivity, Phil acknowledges that many faith communities have fallen short, sometimes harboring fewer racial minorities today than decades ago. He calls for congregations to step into deeper engagement with people unlike themselves—not to merely “preach another sermon” or host a webinar, but to walk alongside neighbors and listen to stories that challenge their perspectives. Only through honest encounters and sustained commitment can institutions model the harmony and justice that both society and scripture demand.

Resources & Further Listening:

• Learn more about the Belonging Exchange at [insert link]
• Related episode: “Walking in Each Other’s Shoes: Stories of Real Connection”

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Philip opens by contextualizing the sense of “vertigo” many feel during these turbulent times—social, emotional, and political. He quickly narrows in on his alma mater, sharing grave concerns over the abrupt elimination of hundreds of courses and degree programs, including those in the humanities and social sciences. Citing a failure in shared governance, he describes how faculty, alumni, and students were left out of critical decision-making processes, setting a troubling precedent.

The episode then explores recent actions taken by the Indiana state legislature and university administration, which include the elimination of trustee elections and a mounting assault on diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) initiatives. Philip discusses how these moves have not only weakened representation and support for underrepresented groups but have also led to a chilling rollback of scholarships, campus programs, and visible commitments to creating an inclusive campus community.

Key Takeaway Points:

1. Shared Governance Under Threat: Decision-making at IU has shifted away from an inclusive model to one dominated by top-down directives, bypassing the input of those most affected—students, faculty, and community members.
2. Racial and Social Retrenchment: A series of actions at IU highlights a resurgence of exclusionary practices—from paused scholarships for minority students to the removal of DEI language and support structures—reflecting deeper systemic issues of racism.
3. Christian Nationalism and Political Overreach: Philip draws connections between IU’s struggles and the rise of Christian nationalism, as promoted by projects such as the Heritage Foundation’s Project Esther and Project 2025, warning of their real-time impacts on education, religious freedom, and democracy.
4. Hope and the Power of Community Action: Despite overwhelming challenges, Philip ends on a note of hope, inviting listeners to sign a petition supporting inclusion and academic freedom, and encouraging ongoing dialogue and resistance to fear-driven policies.

Listeners will come away with a better understanding of not only the crisis at IU but also how local events tie into national and global currents. Philip’s call to action is clear: only through collective awareness and engaged participation can we push back against forces that threaten pluralism, education, and democracy.

For links to the petition, resources, and related events at Candler School of Theology, visit our episode page.

Petition Opposing Racist Policies at Indiana University

Candler School of Theology Event Opposing Christian Nationalism

John shares powerful stories from his time visiting Palestinian villages in the West Bank, where he encountered Israeli Jews risking their own safety to offer “protective presence” for Palestinians under threat. He draws parallels to historic peace movements and highlights the inspirational work of organizations like Jewish Voice for Peace and Breaking the Silence. John’s message is clear: not all Jews support or identify with nationalist or colonizing projects; many are actively speaking out for justice and an end to occupation, often at personal cost.

Phil and John also explore the role of those outside the conflict. Whether Christian, Jewish, Muslim, or nonbeliever, John encourages everyone to get educated, take genuine action, and move beyond indifference. From supporting boycott, divestment, and sanctions (BDS) initiatives to participating in local protests or encouraging clergy to speak out, there are meaningful steps everyone can take. John reminds us that even small acts—like joining a weekly protest or writing a letter—can nourish our spirits and contribute to the greater effort for justice.

The episode concludes with John reflecting on the spiritual rewards of solidarity. He describes receiving an award from the local Arab American forum, a meaningful artifact symbolizing the “holiness” he experiences when standing with people on the margins. Despite acknowledging the risk of “white saviorism,” John finds deep spiritual peace and connection in these acts of solidarity and encourages others to embrace risk, discomfort, and the courage needed to reach across boundaries.

Takeaway Points:

1. Solidarity takes many forms: Individuals can show support in both large and small ways—including education, protest, advocacy, and encouraging religious leaders to be bold voices for justice.
2. Intersection of faith and activism: Faith communities, clergy, and organizations like Jewish Voice for Peace play vital roles in challenging injustice and offering hope.
3. Small steps matter: Engaging locally, even with just a handful of people, can be spiritually nourishing and impactful.
4. Spiritual enrichment from action: Acting in solidarity with oppressed communities not only benefits others but also deepens one’s own sense of calling and faith.
5. Risk is necessary: Real change and belonging come from stepping out of comfort zones, risking misunderstanding or criticism, and being open to transformation.

Resources Mentioned:

• Kairos Response
• Jewish Voice for Peace
• Breaking the Silence

Here are some links recommend: 

United Methodists for Kairos Response - https://www.kairosresponse.org/ UMKR was founded in 2010 in Chicago. We've helped most annual conferences in the United States to consider legislation aimed at bringing peace with justice to the Holy Land, and we've been active at every General Conference since 2012. (It's important to note that United Methodists have been addressing the injustices they've seen in the Holy Land for many years prior to the formation of UMKR.)

Kairos Palestine - https://www.kairospalestine.ps/ This organization represents Christian leaders in the West Bank and Gaza. They've issued many calls to Western churches to stand with them in opposing oppression. The "Kairos Document" is particularly important. 

Friends of Sabeel, North America (FOSNA) - https://www.fosna.org/ - FOSNA works with Sabeel ("The Way" in Arabic), one of the main Christian activist groups in Israel and Palestine. If you want to go on a solidarity trip please contact the folks at FOSNA. 

I recommend this website on Christian Zionism: https://www.christianzionism.org/ It was created by Evangelicals for Evangelicals. Christian Zionism pushes for Israeli control of all the Holy Land, claiming it's a biblical mandate. This website makes it clear this is not the case. 

I would hope people would read this article I wrote last September: https://thehill.com/opinion/education/4871480-college-students-israel-protest/ The most important part is in the first few paragraphs where I provide links to actions taken by Christian denominations to oppose the occupation of Palestine. There have been quite a few. 

I believe this video created by United Methodist missionaries is even more important than it was when it came out ten years ago - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKb8SYVB8KQ When people ask "Well, what about Hamas?" it's helpful to let them know that as non-violent solutions like boycotts and divestments were rejected, those advocating violence were given a greater voice. Our United Methodist missionaries, past and present, plead for United Methodists and all Christians to advocate for a just peace. "Time is running out," they say over and over. 

John Wagner is a pastor in the West Ohio annual conference of the United Methodist Church. He first visited Israel and Palestine in 2008 and was moved and shaken by what he'd seen. He was the first convenor and one of the founders of United Methodists for Kairos Response (UMKR), and also served as co-chair of its steering committee. After letting go of leadership in UMKR he continues to work for a just peace through a number of other Christian and interfaith organizations. He was part of an interfaith solidarity delegation to the Holy Land in late 2024. 

John has served as pastor to congregations in Indiana and Ohio for the last 43 years. He's married to JoAnn and together they have 3 daughters and two grandchildren. 

John takes us back to his first eye-opening trip to Israel-Palestine in 2008, when he joined a United Methodist delegation to witness the complexities of the conflict firsthand. Profoundly moved by what he saw, John returned home determined to address the role that US-based organizations—including the United Methodist Church—play through their investment choices. Key to this effort is UMKR’s divestment campaign, which seeks to pull church funds from companies that profit from the occupation and from Israel bonds that directly fund military operations in Gaza.

Phil and John weigh the profound disconnect many US Christians experience regarding Palestinian Christians—descendants of the earliest followers of Christianity, now dwindling under immense pressures. John reflects on how often their presence is unknown or dismissed, and how Palestinian Christian leaders like Alex Awad embody a vital, 2,000-year-old heritage connected to the biblical land.

From his recent journey with an interfaith delegation, John offers a nuanced look at Israeli society, meeting Rabbi Avi Dabush—himself a survivor of the October 7, 2023 attack and a voice for ceasefire and human rights within Israel. These conversations emphasize the diversity and courageous moral stands among both Israelis and Palestinians working for peace.

John and Phil do not shy away from the harsh realities on the ground: restricted access to water, movement limitations, routine harassment of Palestinian communities, and the often-invisible suffering caused by occupation. They stress the need for firsthand engagement and advocacy, pointing out that real change will require more than awareness—it demands action from all who believe in justice.

Three to Five Major Takeaways:

1. The power of firsthand experience: Visiting Israel and Palestine is transformational; seeing the situation directly can spark lifelong activism.
2. Hidden stories of faith: Palestinian Christians are a significant, historic, yet marginalized group whose voices are often ignored in Western narratives.
3. The role of institutions: Churches and faith-based investors hold real power to affect change through ethical investment and divestment strategies.
4. Everyday realities of occupation: The struggle for basic rights—like water and freedom of movement—is central to understanding the conflict’s impact.
5. Interfaith solidarity and hope: Amid tragedy, courageous voices across religious divides are calling for peace, justice, and creative action.

Tune in for a moving exploration of faith, history, and the call to be and do what matters most.

John Wagner's recommended resources and links:

John Wagner bio and links:

Here are some links I recommend: 

United Methodists for Kairos Response - https://www.kairosresponse.org/ UMKR was founded in 2010 in Chicago. We've helped most annual conferences in the United States to consider legislation aimed at bringing peace with justice to the Holy Land, and we've been active at every General Conference since 2012. (It's important to note that United Methodists have been addressing the injustices they've seen in the Holy Land for many years prior to the formation of UMKR.)

Kairos Palestine - https://www.kairospalestine.ps/ This organization represents Christian leaders in the West Bank and Gaza. They've issued many calls to Western churches to stand with them in opposing oppression. The "Kairos Document" is particularly important. 

Friends of Sabeel, North America (FOSNA) - https://www.fosna.org/ - FOSNA works with Sabeel ("The Way" in Arabic), one of the main Christian activist groups in Israel and Palestine. If you want to go on a solidarity trip please contact the folks at FOSNA. 

I recommend this website on Christian Zionism: https://www.christianzionism.org/ It was created by Evangelicals for Evangelicals. Christian Zionism pushes for Israeli control of all the Holy Land, claiming it's a biblical mandate. This website makes it clear this is not the case. 

I would hope people would read this article I wrote last September: https://thehill.com/opinion/education/4871480-college-students-israel-protest/ The most important part is in the first few paragraphs where I provide links to actions taken by Christian denominations to oppose the occupation of Palestine. There have been quite a few. 

I believe this video created by United Methodist missionaries is even more important than it was when it came out ten years ago - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKb8SYVB8KQ When people ask "Well, what about Hamas?" it's helpful to let them know that as non-violent solutions like boycotts and divestments were rejected, those advocating violence were given a greater voice. Our United Methodist missionaries, past and present, plead for United Methodists and all Christians to advocate for a just peace. "Time is running out," they say over and over. 

John Wagner is a pastor in the West Ohio annual conference of the United Methodist Church. He first visited Israel and Palestine in 2008 and was moved and shaken by what he'd seen. He was the first convenor and one of the founders of United Methodists for Kairos Response (UMKR), and also served as co-chair of its steering committee. After letting go of leadership in UMKR he continues to work for a just peace through a number of other Christian and interfaith organizations. He was part of an interfaith solidarity delegation to the Holy Land in late 2024. 

John has served as pastor to congregations in Indiana and Ohio for the last 43 years. He's married to JoAnn and together they have 3 daughters and two grandchildren. 

Who is Jacaiya Gross?

Phil introduces Jacaiya as someone he truly enjoys getting to know. Jacaiya opens up about her academic journey, sharing that she’s currently in the BFA photography program, while minoring in criminal justice. Her path isn’t just shaped by artistic passion, but by a deeper calling: she hopes to become a crime scene photographer, bridging her love for true crime and her desire to contribute meaningfully to the world.

Facing the Future with Determination

As Phil prompts her to look ahead, Jacaiya honestly admits she foresees many “restless nights.” She’s keenly aware of the emotional and psychological demands of crime scene work, but is equally energized by the prospect of making an impact. Her immediate goal? Securing an internship with a police department—whether in Bloomington, Indianapolis, or maybe even Chicago. Jacaiya embraces the challenges ahead, confident that her work can lead to a career filled with both growth and purpose.

Driven by Justice and Curiosity

Jacaiya’s intrigue with crime scene photography is closely tied to her fascination with true crime series like "Criminal Minds." Far from being just a fan, Jacaiya sees this passion as a springboard toward a meaningful career, aiming to use her skills in environments where justice and truth matter most.

Hopes for a Just and Inclusive World

The conversation shifts seamlessly from the personal to the global, as Jacaiya shares her hopes for justice, equality, and safety for all. She envisions a world where DEI (diversity, equity, and inclusion) is not just an academic or corporate buzzword, but a lived reality—an environment where everyone belongs.

Key Takeaways:

1. Passion with Purpose: Jacaiya’s blend of creativity and ambition shows the power of aligning one’s talents with meaningful goals.
2. Facing Hard Truths: Crime scene photography isn’t for the faint of heart, but Jakaya’s courage and determination set her apart.
3. Championing DEI Values: Jacaiya and Phil’s discussion reminds us that the pursuit of diversity, equity, and inclusion is foundational to a just society.
4. Resilience and Hope: Despite the challenges ahead, Jacaiya’s vision for a better future is unwavering and inspiring.

Join us for this episode as Jacaiya Gross lights the way for young leaders everywhere who strive to be part of the solution—to be and do more.

In this compelling episode of the To Be and Do podcast, host Phil Amerson continues his conversation with Dr. Gloria Howell, director of the Neal-Marshall Black Culture Center at Indiana University. Building on their prior discussion about her upbringing in New Albany, Mississippi, and her early influences, Gloria now reflects on her role as a leader, mentor, and change-maker in the Bloomington, Indiana community.

Phil and Gloria delve into the importance of acknowledging and honoring the “ancestors”—the generations of Black IU students, staff, and community leaders whose effort, resilience, and vision helped shape Indiana University’s Black community today. Gloria shares the story behind her favorite “acknowledging our ancestors” shirt, highlighting key figures like Herman Hudson, James Mumford, Jimmy Ross, and the Center’s namesakes, Marcellus Neal and Frances Marshall. These icons, she explains, not only built a foundation for today’s Black students but also remind the current generation of the deep legacy they are a part of.

The episode also explores the reality faced by students today amid societal tension and political unrest. Gloria candidly discusses the pressures on student activists and leaders, emphasizing the importance of self-care, avoiding burnout, and focusing on their academic journeys. She shares wisdom from her mentors—especially Charlie Nelms—and underscores the balance between activism and personal well-being. Mental health, wellness resources such as embedded counseling, and honest conversations about setting boundaries are central in how she supports students through challenging times.

A significant part of their discussion is Gloria’s dedication to civic engagement and the arts in Bloomington. She describes her upbringing with the belief that “community is ministry,” guiding her commitment to service through involvement with organizations such as the City of Bloomington’s MLK Commission, NAACP, and Constellation Stage and Screen. Gloria highlights the ongoing need to assess local needs, ensure marginalized voices are included in the arts and civic life, and build bridges across diverse groups for meaningful impact.

Key Takeaways:

1. Honoring the Past: Acknowledging the ancestors and trailblazers of Black IU is key to understanding and shaping the present and future for Black students and the wider community.
2. Student Well-being: Balancing activism and academic focus, supporting mental health, and encouraging boundary-setting are vital for empowering resilient student leaders.
3. Civic Engagement as Ministry: Deep community involvement—especially in areas of justice, inclusion, and the arts—serves as a form of living out one’s values and bridging divides.
4. Legacy and Responsibility: Living and serving with awareness of those who came before inspires intentional, effective community leadership.

Tune in for a heartfelt, insightful conversation with Dr. Gloria Howell—an inspiring reminder of the importance of history, healing, leadership, and joy in doing the work that matters.

Jaciaya discusses the value of Indiana University's community and the many opportunities she's embraced, from learning new hobbies to taking on leadership roles as a student ambassador and participating in the photography club. Juggling two campus jobs, club involvement, and a full academic schedule, Jaciaya exemplifies commitment and determination—qualities that shine through as she talks about the importance of making meaningful connections on campus.

The conversation turns to the growing uncertainties and pressures facing students today. Jaciaya voices her concerns about proposed changes to scholarships and the potential removal of Board of Education support, particularly as these shifts threaten the very programs that make college accessible for countless students, herself included. She highlights the widespread worry among her peers, many of whom rely on scholarships and struggle to balance work and school in a landscape where educational censorship is also on the rise.

Amidst these difficulties, Jaciaya reveals the source of her enduring motivation: a charm bracelet gifted by her family, marked by a message of unwavering support and love. This personal memento serves as a daily reminder to persevere, even when challenges seem overwhelming.

Key Takeaways:

1. Community Support is Vital: Jaciaya’s story underscores the importance of programs like IU’s Groups and DEI scholarships in helping students transition to—and succeed in—college life.
2. Students Face Heightened Uncertainty: Many students, including Jaciaya and her friends, are dealing with anxiety over scholarship changes and educational censorship, making college both financially and emotionally challenging.
3. Resilience and Balance: Jaciaya’s ability to manage multiple jobs, academics, and leadership roles reflects the grit of today’s students—but also highlights the need for accessible support systems.
4. Personal Connection Fuels Perseverance: The sentimental value of Jaciaya’s charm bracelet from her family exemplifies how personal symbols of support can inspire hope and strength in tough times.
5. Building Connections Matters: The chance to meet people of diverse backgrounds and personalities is one of IU’s greatest strengths—a sentiment echoed by Jaciaya as a defining joy of her college experience.

Listen in to hear Jaciaya’s thoughtful perspective on the evolving landscape of higher education, and be inspired by her commitment to “keep flying high,” no matter the obstacles.

For more episodes and updates, visit thebelongingexchange.org.

Narrative Overview:

Following an introduction by Phil, listeners are invited into Mike’s journey—one marked not by prescribed programs or top-down charity, but by listening, relationship, and a willingness to let ministry evolve. Mike speaks with humility about moving beyond “ministry to” and embracing “ministry with.” He tells the story of Boulder’s church patio unexpectedly becoming a gathering place for those experiencing homelessness during the pandemic and how meeting, naming, and understanding one another changed everything.

Rather than seeing people as clients or problems to fix, Mike challenges his congregation (and us all) to instead see everyone’s gifts, dreams, and what brings them joy. Whether discussing an accidental community meeting, the success story of neighbor Adel Almaguer turning her love for cooking into a thriving business, or the courage to celebrate both successes and failures in church ministries, Mike’s wisdom is hands-on, practical, and deeply relational.

Ultimately, the episode is a call away from paternalism and scarcity thinking, and toward a vision of church as a space where everyone’s story, gifts, and relationships matter.

Key Takeaways:

1. Ask Different Questions: Mike advocates for shifting the focus from what people lack (“how poor are you?”) to what they have to offer (“what are your gifts, dreams, and talents?”). This change in questioning opens doors to dignity, agency, and surprising possibilities.
2. The Power of Relationship: The episode demonstrates that real transformation begins with knowing names and stories, not just providing services. Community is built not by programs, but through genuine human connection.
3. Embracing and Learning from Failure: Mike urges churches to recognize, honor, and even celebrate ministries and programs that have ended, understanding that failure is integral to growth and new life.
4. Everyone Has Something to Give: The stories shared reinforce that every person, regardless of circumstance, has skills, stories, and joys worth celebrating and sharing.
5. Ministry is a Journey, Not a Destination: Mike reminds us there’s no one-size-fits-all formula—ministry is ongoing, evolving work that requires openness to learning, change, and the unexpected.

Listen in for an honest, hope-filled conversation on how the church can become a truly welcoming and transformative community—one relationship, one story at a time.

Dr. Howell begins by reflecting on her upbringing in New Albany, Mississippi, emphasizing the pivotal role of a loving, supportive village of Black women—her mother, grandmother, and aunts—who instilled in her a profound sense of resilience. Growing up in a predominantly white, rural town, Gloria’s connection to her Blackness was continuously reinforced through her close-knit community, specifically through the Black church. These early experiences laid the groundwork for her enduring commitment to creating spaces of love and acceptance for others.

Listeners discover how Gloria’s ambitions evolved during her time at the University of Mississippi, where her initial dreams of becoming “the next Oprah” transformed into an appreciation for storytelling and advocacy. Her pivot from broadcast journalism to higher education was inspired by a mentor who recognized her passion for student engagement and helping others, ultimately leading her to Indiana University for doctoral studies.

The conversation delves deeply into Dr. Howell’s culture shock upon arriving in Indiana, especially her startling experience in a Bloomington Walmart, where a simple Southern courtesy of saying “yes, ma’am” was harshly rebuffed. She candidly discusses the importance of hospitality and how just one person’s kindness—a stranger who reached out after the uncomfortable incident—helped restore her sense of belonging. This moment underscored for her the urgent need for intentional community-building, especially for people of color in majority-white spaces.

Together, Phil and Dr. Howell explore how fostering true belonging isn’t an official title but a calling. They highlight the critical importance of making newcomers feel welcome—not just for their retention, but for the health of the entire community.

Key Takeaways:

1. Community and Belonging: Dr. Howell’s story illustrates the life-changing power of feeling welcomed and valued, and how community bonds can sustain us, even far from home.
2. The Power of Mentorship: Supportive mentors guided Gloria through pivotal choices, demonstrating just how impactful encouragement and practical advice can be.
3. Small Gestures Matter: Both negative and positive interactions—like the confrontation at Walmart and the following act of compassion—can significantly affect someone’s sense of place.
4. Lifelong Commitment to Inclusion: Gloria and Phil agree to intentionally cultivate a more welcoming environment, reminding listeners that building inclusive communities is everyone’s responsibility.

Tune in for a conversation brimming with wisdom, warmth, and an inspiring call to sow seeds of love and mutual care wherever you are.

Here are more details about Dr. Gloria Howell

• Gloria Howell is a Mississippi native who arrived in Bloomington in 2013. She currently serves as Director of the Neal-Marshall Black Culture Center at Indiana University Bloomington where she works alongside a dynamic team to create and execute programs and initiatives to support Black students, faculty, staff, alumni, and the broader community. She is also an adjunct faculty member in the IU School of Education. Gloria considers herself a community curator whose life work centers around service and advocacy. She is active in the local community and serves as Chair of the Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Birthday Commission, Chair of the Monroe County NAACP Scholarship Committee, and Board Member of Middle Way House and Constellation Stage and Screen. She also serves as a guest co-anchor of the Bring it On! Radio broadcast on WFHB.  Gloria earned her doctoral degree from the IU School of Education and her master's and bachelor's from the University of Mississippi in higher education/student personnel and broadcast journalism, respectively. Gloria is a proud member of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Incorporated. A self-proclaimed creative spacemaker, Gloria enjoys advocating for artists and arts organizations and participating in karaoke as a favorite pastime.

In this uplifting episode of the To Be and Do podcast, host Phil Amerson brings a gentle reminder about the power of community, laughter, and togetherness, all centered around the tradition of picnics. Drawing from years of experience holding the beloved Trifling Picnic, Phil takes us on a brief journey through the roots of this event, its whimsical connection to John Wesley, and the important changes coming this year.

For over a decade, the Trifling Picnic has served as a space for friends, families, and new acquaintances to relax, laugh, and connect. Phil playfully revisits Wesley’s admonition against clergy being “triflingly employed,” and invites listeners to reclaim trifling in today’s fast-moving world—not as something wasteful, but as essential nourishment for the human spirit.

This year brings a new twist. Instead of gathering everyone in Bloomington for one large event, Phil and the Belonging Exchange encourage listeners to host their own small picnics in their communities. He suggests that these gatherings can be especially meaningful if they bring together not only old friends and family, but also people we may not know as well—especially those of different backgrounds, faiths, or experiences. The hope is that these micro-picnics can foster new connections and encourage a genuine exchange of belonging, bridging societal gaps and building friendship across divides.

Listeners are invited to share their own picnic stories and photos with the Belonging Exchange. In fact, Phil shares that some listeners are already planning their gatherings—an exciting sign of momentum. Submissions will be shared on the Belonging Exchange website, spreading the encouragement and bringing even more communities into this growing tapestry of togetherness.

As the spirit of the Trifling Picnic spreads, Phil imagines dozens of joyful gatherings from the Midwest to Virginia, California, and beyond—each one a small act of community-building.

Key Takeaways:

1. Redefining “Trifling”: Relaxation and play are vital for healthy community, and taking time to enjoy one another is never wasted.
2. Smaller Gatherings, Broader Impact: By encouraging listeners to host their own picnics, the movement can reach more communities and create deeper, more personal connections.
3. Embracing Diversity: Phil encourages inclusivity by inviting guests from different backgrounds, highlighting the value of diverse relationships.
4. Sharing Our Stories: Community is strengthened when we share our experiences—photos and stories from these picnics will inspire others and create a shared sense of belonging.
5. A Movement, Not Just an Event: The trifling picnic tradition is evolving into a wider movement of community, stretching across states and bringing people together everywhere.

To join in or learn more, visit belongingexchange.org. Share your story, make new connections, and be part of a wider circle of encouragement!

Seana shares moving stories from her own upbringing, painting a vivid picture of neighbors supporting each other not just with material goods, but with acts of love that required true sacrifice. From sharing government-issued beans to caring for neighbors in crisis, she highlights how love in community is about collective resilience and generosity—far beyond simple charity or transactional help.

As the conversation unfolds, Phil and Shauna discuss how authentic love is inherently risky and uncomfortable. They share honest reflections on how well-meaning efforts can sometimes unintentionally impose power rather than foster caring, urging listeners to continuously self-reflect on their motivations when serving others. Shauna insightfully notes that true love is transformative, often asks us to let go, and is rooted not in seeking recognition, but in deep commitment to one another.

The podcast also delves into the challenge—and necessity—of rekindling imagination in the face of injustice and loss. While both Phil and Seana recognize the cruelty present in today’s systems, they express hope that the next generation, unburdened by the baggage of old institutions, can imagine new paths forward. They stress the importance of elders supporting young people not by directing them, but by saying “yes” and making space for their leadership.

Key Takeaways:

1. Love is Action, Not Sentiment: True community love is about self-sacrifice, risk, and showing up for one another—even, and especially, when it’s uncomfortable.
2. Abundance is Already Present: Communities have inherent gifts, skills, and wisdom—such as the example of a neighborhood violin teacher or resourceful residents—if we have the eyes to see them.
3. Power vs. Love: Well-intentioned acts can sometimes become exercises in control or power. Regular self-reflection is necessary to ensure our actions foster genuine care.
4. Imagination Fuels Change: Even in dark times, hope remains when communities—especially young people—are encouraged to imagine boldly, rather than replicate broken systems.
5. Elders’ Role is to Support, Not Direct: Lasting change comes when older generations make room for youth to lead and innovate, investing trust in their visions for the future.

Join Phil and Seana for this thoughtful episode—a testament to the enduring strength of community, the transformative nature of love, and the vital importance of passing the torch of imagination to those who follow.

Host: Phil Amerson | Guest: Seana Murphy

In this deeply engaging episode of the To Be and Do podcast, host Phil Amerson welcomes Seana Murphy, a proud parent, experienced professional, and lifelong learner, for a conversation full of wisdom, reflection, and encouragement. Phil, ever grateful to his many "teachers," counts Seana among them—though she reminds us that the lessons go both ways, especially when it comes to building community and finding abundance in unexpected places.

Seana invites listeners to reconsider preconceived ideas about poverty and resilience, drawing from her own experiences growing up in a so-called “low wealth neighborhood.” While acknowledging that material poverty offers little romance in the day-to-day, she highlights the essential “invisible economies” that often exist in such communities—networks of support, food, stories, and skill-sharing that sustain neighbors even when outside institutions close their doors. Phil and Seana reminisce about local figures like Mister Danner, who hired kids and taught practical life skills, or community members who shared meals and gardens, emphasizing the wealth of gifts and talents already present if only we pause to look.

Their conversation explores the challenges and unintended consequences of well-meaning but sometimes poorly executed interventions, such as school desegregation and external social programs. Seana raises critical questions around who defines what help is needed, and who is consulted in the process, urging an asset-based approach that recognizes and uplifts those existing sources of abundance.

As the episode transitions to issues like healthcare and education, Seana shares practical ways abundance shows up—and can be tapped—in the everyday lives of families and communities. Whether it’s encouraging doctors to ask about their patients’ lives beyond medical charts or joining GirlTrek walking groups to overcome isolation, Seana’s stories offer practical wisdom for finding connection and healing.

Top Takeaways:

1. Abundance Exists All Around Us. Even in under-resourced neighborhoods, networks of support, knowledge, and skill abound. The key is learning to “strain your eyes” to see it.
2. Ask Different Questions. Real connection begins when we ask about the whole person: their joys, their stories, and what makes them dance—not just statistics or symptoms.
3. Resilience Is a Community Virtue. Seana’s story illustrates how resilience is forged through both challenge and support, and how demanding too much of it—especially from children—is an injustice.
4. Health and Healing Are Community Matters. Trust and wellness aren’t built in institutions alone, but in relationships—among neighbors, caregivers, and longstanding community “healers.”
5. Interdependence Is Strength. Echoing the podcast’s core, Seana and Phil remind us that belonging and mutual support are more powerful than any single hero’s journey.

Tune in to be encouraged—and inspired to look again at the hidden abundance that surrounds us every day.

In this powerful episode of the To Be and Do podcast, host Phil Amerson addresses the mounting anxiety and despair many feel in the face of sweeping social and political changes across the nation and Indiana. Drawing inspiration from the 19th-century philosopher Soren Kierkegaard and his book Sickness Unto Death, Phil challenges listeners to recognize despair as not only a natural response to crisis but, as Kierkegaard argues, a sin even worse than death if it leads to immobility and surrender.

Phil delves deeply into current legislative changes in Indiana, spotlighting controversial policies that threaten the poor, restrict health care access through proposed Medicaid cuts, censor educational curricula, and punish marginalized communities. Through both passionate commentary and personal reflection, he draws stark connections between these policies and broader autocratic strategies. He also highlights how misinformation and outright distortion of historical reality—such as misrepresenting the three-fifths compromise—fuel division, racism, and the erosion of mutual respect, the key ingredient for a healthy democracy.

But this is not a message of defeat. Phil emphasizes agency and hope, encouraging small but meaningful acts each day to combat bigotry, discrimination, and despair. Drawing from the story of Lazarus and the words of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., he reminds us that we are all part of an inescapable network of mutuality, and that action, no matter how incremental, is essential.

Key Takeaways:

1. Despair is a Spiritual and Civic Danger: Inspired by Kierkegaard, Phil urges listeners to recognize that despair, especially when it leads to surrender, is the true enemy—not just for the individual but for society as a whole. Hope, paired with mutual respect, is the lifeblood of democracy.
2. Recognize and Resist Autocratic Playbooks: Current state and national policies in Indiana—including attacks on academic freedom, health care, and public institutions—mirror tactics seen in other nations where democracy is under threat. Awareness and vigilance are vital.
3. Small Actions Matter: Whether it’s gently calling out disrespect, supporting public servants, or reaching out to build new friendships, incremental steps can combat intolerance and promote belonging.
4. Challenge Misinformation and Demand Accountability: Phil recommends writing representatives, supporting local institutions, and holding leaders accountable, stressing the power of individual and collective voices.
5. Community Support is Crucial: Phil highlights local organizations and actions—from supporting refugee programs to advocating for affordable housing—as ways to tangibly create more just, inclusive communities.

Tune in to gain encouragement, practical ideas, and the reassurance that while these are unsettling times, everyday actions grounded in hope really can shift the tide.

Kenton shares a poignant poem written for a memorial run commemorating the fifth anniversary of Ahmaud Arbery’s assassination. The poem, performed before an audience of runners, speaks to the intersection of race, justice, and resilience, culminating in a powerful call for solidarity and grace beyond divisive lines. His words resonate with a deep energy, reflecting the shared fears and hopes of communities often in the crosshairs of racial profiling and violence.

Another striking piece, “The Face of War,” paints a vivid portrait of the universal tragedy and impartiality of war. Through gripping imagery, Kenton explores the senselessness and enduring impact of conflict, capturing the haunting void left by both love and hate in its aftermath.

Further, Kenton’s poetry shines a light on the personal stories of immigrants, particularly focusing on day laborers and children separated from parents due to border issues. Poems illustrating the harsh realities faced by individuals seeking a better life underscore the human cost of migration. Yet, amidst these challenges, a medley of poems captures acts of love, connection, and hope that transcend hardship, showcasing how shared humanity can offer solace and joy, even in the face of adversity.

Here are five key takeaways from this emotional and enlightening episode:

1. The Power of Words: Kenton Hundley’s poetry exemplifies how art can speak truth to power, capturing complex emotions and societal issues in a profound way.
2. Resilience and Hope: Through his poetic narratives, Kenton highlights how individuals and communities find strength and hope amidst diverse challenges, from racial injustices to the plight of immigrants.
3. Interconnected Struggles: The poems reveal a shared thread across different demographics and struggles, fostering a sense of interconnectedness in the fight for justice and equality.
4. Reflection of Society: Art as a mirror to society is a recurring theme, illustrating the need for artists to hold a reflective lens to societal issues.
5. Love in Action: Kenton’s closing thoughts focus on acts of love, underscoring the importance of empathy, unity, and support during times of division and isolation.
6. This episode artfully reminds us of the transformative power of poetry and relationships, urging us to seek connection, understanding, and love in a world often fraught with division and isolation.

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KENTON REAVES HUNDLEY is an inspirational, creative, and passionate educator who’s worked with young people for years to empower them with the expectation of success, compassion, and the cultivation of faith. He has created deep and constantly evolving partnerships with a diverse array of community leaders including clergy, activists, athletes, artists, and educators throughout the San Diego region. For nearly 15 years he lent his expertise to curriculum design and supervision of the day-to-day instruction for unaccompanied minors from multiple educational and cultural backgrounds.

Kenton holds a strong belief that all children, adolescents, and young adults have the capacity to learn through collaboration, leadership development, and honest discussion and partnerships in safe spaces where all those present find themselves willing to learn, share, and grow.

As an artist, Kenton has won many awards for his socially conscious, hip hop and jazz-influenced poetry. He has been a guest lecturer/featured poet at San Diego State University, UCSD, USD, Miramar College, SD City College as well as at local schools. He’s a part of the Via International Global Education Team where he shares his Say It! Spray It! Speak Up. Be Heard. spoken word workshop for community activists. 

Kenton Reaves Hundley

Executive Director

Dream School of the Arts

khundley@dsoasd.org

www.dsoasd.org

Kenton recounts his journey before starting the Dream School of the Arts, sharing how his background as an educator and spoken word artist melded with his vision for creating a nurturing space for children. The Dream School of the Arts, Kenton explains, is not just a place for academic support, but a holistic after-school program centered around the arts, healthy living, and fostering a creative environment for fourth and fifth graders in the Normal Heights community of San Diego.

Throughout the conversation, Kenton passionately describes the various components that make the Dream School unique. From art and music sessions with local and international artists to mental health workshops and academic tutoring, the program aims to empower and inspire young minds. Kenton also explains the significance of the healthy living component, where children are encouraged to make better dietary choices and engage in physical activities, developing a balanced lifestyle that impacts not just their health but also their ability to learn and grow.

Phil and Kenton discuss the vital role of interdependence and relational engagement in creating thriving communities, emphasizing the theme of interconnectedness that underpins the core of the podcast’s message. Drawing from personal anecdotes, Phil inquires about Kenton’s sources of inspiration, leading to a touching exploration of family legacy and the symbolic power of cherished family photographs.

Key Takeaways:

1. Holistic Approach to Education: The Dream School of the Arts integrates arts, healthy living, and academic support, offering a comprehensive program that nurtures all aspects of a child's growth.
2. Community and Connection: The importance of building relationships and community interdependence stands out as a pivotal theme, reinforcing the idea that collaboration and shared support lead to healthier, more resilient communities.
3. Inspiration and Resilience: Kenton reflects on the source of his inspiration, drawing strength from his parents' unwavering belief in his potential and their enduring impact on his life journey.

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KENTON REAVES HUNDLEY is an inspirational, creative, and passionate educator who’s worked with young people for years to empower them with the expectation of success, compassion, and the cultivation of faith. He has created deep and constantly evolving partnerships with a diverse array of community leaders including clergy, activists, athletes, artists, and educators throughout the San Diego region. For nearly 15 years he lent his expertise to curriculum design and supervision of the day-to-day instruction for unaccompanied minors from multiple educational and cultural backgrounds.

Kenton holds a strong belief that all children, adolescents, and young adults have the capacity to learn through collaboration, leadership development, and honest discussion and partnerships in safe spaces where all those present find themselves willing to learn, share, and grow.

As an artist, Kenton has won many awards for his socially conscious, hip hop and jazz-influenced poetry. He has been a guest lecturer/featured poet at San Diego State University, UCSD, USD, Miramar College, SD City College as well as at local schools. He’s a part of the Via International Global Education Team where he shares his Say It! Spray It! Speak Up. Be Heard. spoken word workshop for community activists. 

Kenton Reaves Hundley

Executive Director

Dream School of the Arts

khundley@dsoasd.org

www.dsoasd.org

Pat, who lived in a repurposed train station and hailed from an exceptionally humble background, epitomized resilience and brilliance, majoring in Russian and economics at Indiana University despite dire financial constraints. The bond Bud formed with Pat was transformative, challenging his understanding of poverty and altruism. One poignant story that stands out involves Bud visiting Pat's home, experiencing firsthand the environment Pat was initially embarrassed to reveal. That visit, combined with Pat's views on altruism, left a mark on Bud's philosophy of giving and community engagement.

Here are a few key takeaways from this episode:

1. Understanding Poverty Through Personal Connections: Bud's friendship with Pat deepened his empathy and understanding of economic hardship beyond his own experiences. It illustrates the importance of genuine human connection in understanding different life circumstances.
2. Altruism with Integrity: Pat Patterson’s belief that true altruism doesn't seek payment in the form of public acknowledgment or personal satisfaction challenges listeners to examine their motives in giving.
3. Empathy in Redevelopment: Pat’s success as the redevelopment director for Bloomington's Pigeon Hill area was rooted in his deep empathy and personal relationships with residents, emphasizing the pivotal role of knowing and caring for the people served.
4. The Ripple Effect of Support: The episode highlights the powerful ripple effect of support as seen in Pat’s efforts to help his brothers and mother improve their lives, creating a broader impact than initially visible.
5. Community and Belonging: Through shared stories and support, Bud and Phil highlight that building genuine community connections fosters lasting change and personal growth.

Join Phil Amerson and Bud Herron as they explore these life lessons, inviting listeners to reflect on the depth of their impact within their communities through personal connections and authentic giving.

Bud shares anecdotes from his early days at the Franklin Journal, highlighting the importance of local newspapers as the glue that binds communities. His decision to initially discontinue the traditional columns written by elderly correspondents led to a pivotal lesson about community ties and the essential role of these columns in maintaining local connections. After receiving passionate feedback, Herron wisely reinstated them, mirroring the larger theme of connection and belonging emphasized throughout the episode.

The conversation also delves into the challenges facing modern journalism, particularly the impacts of social media on local news. While technology provides new avenues for information sharing, Bud argues that it fails to replace the trusted, common information base that newspapers once offered. This transition has created an environment where misinformation can flourish, making the accountability that local journalism once provided all the more critical.

Takeaway Points:

1. Community Connection: Local newspapers serve as the backbone for communities, offering a common source of information that helps maintain the social fabric. Bud’s experience with the Franklin Journal showcases how even seemingly small contributions can have a significant impact on community morale.
2. The Evolution of Journalism: The shift from traditional printed newspapers to digital media has introduced challenges in maintaining reliable and consistent community-focused journalism. Bud forecasts a troubling future for printed news if significant changes aren't made.
3. Social Media's Role and Challenges: While social media offers new platforms for information dissemination, Bud and Phil discuss its inability to fully replace the depth and reliability of local newspapers, stressing the need for validated and accurate reporting.
4. Importance of Local Institutions: Both Bud and Phil emphasize the need to support local institutions like churches, schools, and social clubs as they become increasingly responsible for upholding the community exchange of truthful and beneficial information.

Through engaging storytelling, Bud Herron provides a poignant reminder of the role of local journalism in fostering informed and connected communities, illustrating both the challenges faced and the enduring importance of these age-old institutions in today’s rapidly changing media landscape.

Here are three key takeaways from this captivating episode:

1. The Power of Courage and Love: Throughout the Lenten season, the focus of First Church has been on courage, specifically the courage to love—an idea beautifully illustrated by Reverend Dr. Philip Amerson’s reflections. Pastor Michael Mather shares a touching story of a memory care unit where communication barriers were transcended through simple acts of love, such as a hug, reiterating the church's message that everyone is welcome and valued. This concept of courage is further amplified by reimagining the biblical tale of Mary anointing Jesus with perfume, revealing acts of love as both 'holy wastefulness' and essential expressions of faith.
2. Experiencing the Overwhelming Gifts of Life: Dr. Amerson challenges the notion of living in an underwhelmed state by reminding us of the overwhelming aspects of God's grace and the world's inherent beauty. He shares personal anecdotes and biblical stories that illustrate the importance of sensing these gifts in everyday life. A sense of enchantment, or a "convergence of overwhelmings," as described by theologian David Ford, encourages us to appreciate the connections around us, whether it’s through shared laughter or community gatherings.
3. The Transformative Power of Community: Central to the episode is the recognition of powerful community bonds, embodied by the First Church congregation and their shared spiritual journey. Dr. Amerson recounts an inspiring story about a group of elderly women, affectionately termed the "Crone Brigade," whose prayerful presence in an urban church became a catalytic force for healing and grace within their community. Their efforts, including the symbolic act of anointing a parking lot, emphasize that community and collective actions truly enrich spiritual life, embodying church as a space not just of ritual, but of genuine emotional and spiritual resonance.

This episode is an invitation to reflect on one's own spiritual journey, calling listeners to embrace the courage to love expansively and to be active participants in their communities. It's a reminder that while individual actions and experiences are deeply meaningful, the power of collective faith and engagement can be transformative, echoing Phillip Amerson's closing affirmation that there is indeed enough oil to anoint the whole creation.

As you listen to this episode, consider the sensory elements that shape your spiritual journey. What experiences fill your life with fragrance, marking your own path of faith and courage? In its blend of storytelling, scripture, and personal reflection, ""Houses of Fragrances" Sermon at First United Methodist Church, Boulder Colorado by Rev. Dr. Philip Amerson" illustrates the beauty and depth found in the everyday acts of courage and community.

Bud’s love for writing began in his youth, manifesting as early experiences contributing to the local newspaper, the Hope Star Journal Weekly, at just 14. His rebellious spirit shone through in high school, particularly when he started an underground newspaper, "The Protester," after facing opposition from a teacher. This tenacity set the stage for a career marked by boldness and an unyielding quest for truth and storytelling.

Although Bud faced academic challenges at Indiana University, he leveraged hands-on experiences to hone his craft, working summers at professional newspapers and even writing for the Indiana Daily Student. His non-traditional education journey underscores a critical takeaway: formal education isn't the only path to success—practical experience is equally invaluable.

Bud's stint in Sierra Leone with the United Methodist Church’s mission board added another layer to his life’s tapestry, reinforcing the importance of interdependence in a global context. His time there was cut short due to his son’s health issues, but the experience taught him, and listeners, about humility and the necessity of listening and understanding in building connections—a crucial aspect of belonging.

Here are the key takeaways from the episode:

1. Pursue Passion With Boldness: Bud’s early challenges and rebellious streak show how staying true to one's passion can carve a unique path, even in the face of setbacks.
2. Education Comes in Many Forms: Bud’s story highlights that valuable learning often comes from real-world experiences rather than traditional educational environments.
3. Listening as a Bridge to Belonging: His international experiences taught Bud the importance of listening as a foundation for respectful and meaningful community interactions.
4. Challenge Authority Thoughtfully: Encouraged by his father, Bud embraced questioning authority—a mindset that fueled his investigative spirit and contributed to personal growth.
5. Navigate Life’s Unpredictability: The unexpected move from Sierra Leone underscores life's unpredictability and the resilience needed to adapt to new situations.

Join Phil and Bud for more enlightening stories in the next episode of "To Be And Do," where storytelling meets the human experience. For more, check out belongingexchange.org.

Seven Tribulations of Higher Education

Indiana University, Bloomington

Like the Ten Plagues visited on the ancient Egyptian Pharoah, today American universities struggle with the Seven Tribulations of Higher Education.  Sadly, great flagship universities, like Indiana University, Bloomington, suffer from these tribulations. Actually, there are more than 7 or 10 tribulations. These tribulations involve dozens of intermingling jetties of mean-spirited national and state bigotries posing as populist politics. They are often cover for greedy efforts by the wealthy to lower their own taxes and undermine basic benefits for the poor in our nation and world. Birthed in ignorance of history and implemented with arrogance, they also, sadly, undercut educational opportunities for future generations of our children and youth.

These seven tribulations are mentioned in a series of four brief video recordings. These recordings were made alongside four of the remarkable leaders in the history of Indiana University. The video featuring Herman B Wells speaks of Academic Freedom, Equity and Racial Justice, Strong Community Relationships, and the right to Peaceful Protest. The video featuring Ernie Pyle speaks to the Freedom of the Press. The video featuring Alfred Kinsey speaks of the significance of scientific research. Finally, the video featuring Elinor Ostrom, speaks to the value of an Economic and Environmental Commons. 

Here is more background to accompany the Seven Tribulations of Higher Education videos:

1)  Academic Freedom: In recent years professors have been suspended, censured, or threatened for holding unpopular views; graduate student worker requests for better pay are ignored; a long-scheduled art exhibit was cancelled at the last minute; support for academic centers like the Kinsey Institute has been withheld; and, attacks on faculty from members of the state legislature pertaining to course content, faculty hiring and evaluation processes have been met with complicit silence. In April 2024, by large majorities, the faculty voted “no confidence” in the president, provost and vice provost. The “no confidence” vote on the president was over 93%. Following this, the board of trustees indicated “full support” for the president and offered scant attention to attacks on academic freedom.  (#1 video is at the statue with former president and chancellor, Herman B Wells)

2)  Equity and Racial Justice: The university commitment to an equal and accessible education for all has been attacked, undercut and greatly diminished. Again, this has been led by state house crafted legislative attacks on programs and funds designed to provide equal access to education for ALL students. The current national administration joins in a racist commitment to end all programming that is said to fall under the rubric of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion or DEI. The irony, of course, is that this hurts ALL students, including white students from low-wealth communities. I.U. has removed all DEI language from the university website. Posters on campus reading “Build a community where all belong” are being removed. The extent of the DEI cleansing is outlined in this article from the Indiana Daily Student: https://www.idsnews.com/article/2025/03/iu-dei-removed-diversity-language-website-posters. Addressing bigotry and discrimination based on race or wealth was once a core value of the university’s mission. As a Christian pastor, let me clearly name this as unbridled RACISM and an attack on the poor. (#2 Dr. Herman B Wells represented the idea in his actions and leadership that ALL students, no matter race, or wealth, should be afforded an opportunity for higher education.)

3)  Strong Community and International Relationships. As the flagship campus, I.U. Bloomington, has historically modeled a collaborative approach to the quality of life and environmental well-being of Monroe County and surrounding communities. This model has been replicated in other I. U. campus communities. Today the university offers few such cooperative efforts. I.U. Bloomington has increased enrollments without providing additional dormitory or apartment space, with little or no consultation with the city. As a result, Bloomington is among the most expensive cities in Indiana in terms of housing expenses and is below average income in the state for its workers. I.U. Bloomington has failed to lead in efforts to assist in planning that would welcome a racially and economically diverse citizenry, improve low-income housing options and provide stronger wages. There is little long-range cooperative planning efforts with the City of Bloomington or Monroe County. Other cities where Big Ten university flagship campuses are located have demonstrated the value of such cooperation. Administrative leaders are largely absent from social service, artistic, religious, economic development, housing, philanthropic and public boards or community celebrations. At the international level I.U. has been a center for language studies and efforts to build civil societies around the world. I.U. has also been a place where international students are welcomed and valued. Academic centers like the Hamilton Lugar School of Global and International Studies or the Kelley School of Business face new challenges to a core mission of building international practices of democratic civic and commercial engagement. Anti-immigrant activities in our nation and endorsed by the current Indiana governor serve to threaten this long-practiced hospitality. (#3 Herman B Wells understood that building strong human relationships was as essential to a successful university as the garnering of power and control though political or judicial alliances. Dr. Wells work served as an underpinning for the educational and cultural programs of the Marshall Plan following World War II).

4)   The Right to Peaceful Protest. Freedom to demonstrate and offer alternative perspectives is being denied at Indiana University. In early 2024 The Council on American Islamic Relations cited “Indiana University a ‘hostile campus’ for Muslim, Palestinian and Arab students.” The attacks on innocent Israelis on October 6th, 2023, resulted in 1,200 murders and more than 250 captives taken into Gaza by Hamas. This remains a horrific event. The response of Israeli government has resulted in the deaths of more than 50,000 persons in Gaza. Should not the university be a place where all sides to this ongoing tragedy be offered a hearing? Yes. Isn’t the work of a university to prepare students to dialogue respectfully with others who differ. One wonders why the heavy-handed behaviors of the administration with last minute “Expressive Activity Policy” changes, the denial of space for meetings, the involvement of state police in clearing out protestors, the placing of snipers on the roof of the Memorial Union and the arrest of 45 students and faculty was more a signal that intimidation and reactive control as the chosen option over seeking and providing a place for respectful dissent and dialogue. (#4 Herman B Wells knew the importance of civil dialogue and the place for dissent as he was engaged with students over multiple national and international crises.)

5)  Press freedom. The Indiana Daily Student newspaper, the I.U. Media School and the PBS television and radio stations (WTIU and WFIU) are in jeopardy of financial loss and the claim reporting is “misinformation.” Members of the House of Representatives Subcommittee known as DOGE (Department on Government Efficiency) continued demands to defund all public media. Indiana Lieutenant Governor Micah Beckwith threatened the Indiana Daily Student saying it promoted “WOKE propaganda” and that higher education centers like I.U. are “a complete jokes and indoctrination centers.” (#5 I.U. graduate Ernie Pyle, died covering WWII in the battle for Okinawa. He was a strong advocate for telling “the full story’ that involved features on the often overlooked “little guy.”)

6)  Support for Scientific Research. The tribulation surrounding support for scientific research comes from both the White House and the Indiana Legislature. There have been mass firings at the Center for Disease Control, the National Institute for Health, USAID, and environmental protection programs related to EPA, NOAH and NASA. Such bodies support tens of millions of dollars in research initiatives at I.U. Universities across the nation are threatened, as was Columbia University with the loss of research funds in March 2025. In February of 2025 a town hall meeting “Stand up for Science” was held with more than 150 participants of gathered faculty “Concerned Scientists at I.U.” and students, “Advocates for Science at I.U.”, on the Bloomington campus. The goal is to counter the “broad-side attack on the sciences and on universities as a whole.” One clear anti-science initiative passed by the Indiana House in 2023 was an attack on the work of the Kinsey Institute. In 2023, the Indiana General Assembly passed Act 1001 stating that “Indiana appropriations may not be used to pay for the administration, operation, or programs of the Kinsey Institute.” (#6 Kinsey)

7)  Value of Economic and Environmental Commons.  The...]]>A Conversation with Elinor Ostrom:: Seven Tribulations of Higher Education

Seven Tribulations of Higher Education

Indiana University, Bloomington

Like the Ten Plagues visited on the ancient Egyptian Pharoah, today American universities struggle with the Seven Tribulations of Higher Education.  Sadly, great flagship universities, like Indiana University, Bloomington, suffer from these tribulations. Actually, there are more than 7 or 10 tribulations. These tribulations involve dozens of intermingling jetties of mean-spirited national and state bigotries posing as populist politics. They are often cover for greedy efforts by the wealthy to lower their own taxes and undermine basic benefits for the poor in our nation and world. Birthed in ignorance of history and implemented with arrogance, they also, sadly, undercut educational opportunities for future generations of our children and youth.

These seven tribulations are mentioned in a series of four brief video recordings. These recordings were made alongside four of the remarkable leaders in the history of Indiana University. The video featuring Herman B Wells speaks of Academic Freedom, Equity and Racial Justice, Strong Community Relationships, and the right to Peaceful Protest. The video featuring Ernie Pyle speaks to the Freedom of the Press. The video featuring Alfred Kinsey speaks of the significance of scientific research. Finally, the video featuring Elinor Ostrom, speaks to the value of an Economic and Environmental Commons. 

Here is more background to accompany the Seven Tribulations of Higher Education videos:

1)  Academic Freedom: In recent years professors have been suspended, censured, or threatened for holding unpopular views; graduate student worker requests for better pay are ignored; a long-scheduled art exhibit was cancelled at the last minute; support for academic centers like the Kinsey Institute has been withheld; and, attacks on faculty from members of the state legislature pertaining to course content, faculty hiring and evaluation processes have been met with complicit silence. In April 2024, by large majorities, the faculty voted “no confidence” in the president, provost and vice provost. The “no confidence” vote on the president was over 93%. Following this, the board of trustees indicated “full support” for the president and offered scant attention to attacks on academic freedom.  (#1 video is at the statue with former president and chancellor, Herman B Wells)

2)  Equity and Racial Justice: The university commitment to an equal and accessible education for all has been attacked, undercut and greatly diminished. Again, this has been led by state house crafted legislative attacks on programs and funds designed to provide equal access to education for ALL students. The current national administration joins in a racist commitment to end all programming that is said to fall under the rubric of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion or DEI. The irony, of course, is that this hurts ALL students, including white students from low-wealth communities. I.U. has removed all DEI language from the university website. Posters on campus reading “Build a community where all belong” are being removed. The extent of the DEI cleansing is outlined in this article from the Indiana Daily Student: https://www.idsnews.com/article/2025/03/iu-dei-removed-diversity-language-website-posters. Addressing bigotry and discrimination based on race or wealth was once a core value of the university’s mission. As a Christian pastor, let me clearly name this as unbridled RACISM and an attack on the poor. (#2 Dr. Herman B Wells represented the idea in his actions and leadership that ALL students, no matter race, or wealth, should be afforded an opportunity for higher education.)

3)  Strong Community and International Relationships. As the flagship campus, I.U. Bloomington, has historically modeled a collaborative approach to the quality of life and environmental well-being of Monroe County and surrounding communities. This model has been replicated in other I. U. campus communities. Today the university offers few such cooperative efforts. I.U. Bloomington has increased enrollments without providing additional dormitory or apartment space, with little or no consultation with the city. As a result, Bloomington is among the most expensive cities in Indiana in terms of housing expenses and is below average income in the state for its workers. I.U. Bloomington has failed to lead in efforts to assist in planning that would welcome a racially and economically diverse citizenry, improve low-income housing options and provide stronger wages. There is little long-range cooperative planning efforts with the City of Bloomington or Monroe County. Other cities where Big Ten university flagship campuses are located have demonstrated the value of such cooperation. Administrative leaders are largely absent from social service, artistic, religious, economic development, housing, philanthropic and public boards or community celebrations. At the international level I.U. has been a center for language studies and efforts to build civil societies around the world. I.U. has also been a place where international students are welcomed and valued. Academic centers like the Hamilton Lugar School of Global and International Studies or the Kelley School of Business face new challenges to a core mission of building international practices of democratic civic and commercial engagement. Anti-immigrant activities in our nation and endorsed by the current Indiana governor serve to threaten this long-practiced hospitality. (#3 Herman B Wells understood that building strong human relationships was as essential to a successful university as the garnering of power and control though political or judicial alliances. Dr. Wells work served as an underpinning for the educational and cultural programs of the Marshall Plan following World War II).

4)   The Right to Peaceful Protest. Freedom to demonstrate and offer alternative perspectives is being denied at Indiana University. In early 2024 The Council on American Islamic Relations cited “Indiana University a ‘hostile campus’ for Muslim, Palestinian and Arab students.” The attacks on innocent Israelis on October 6th, 2023, resulted in 1,200 murders and more than 250 captives taken into Gaza by Hamas. This remains a horrific event. The response of Israeli government has resulted in the deaths of more than 50,000 persons in Gaza. Should not the university be a place where all sides to this ongoing tragedy be offered a hearing? Yes. Isn’t the work of a university to prepare students to dialogue respectfully with others who differ. One wonders why the heavy-handed behaviors of the administration with last minute “Expressive Activity Policy” changes, the denial of space for meetings, the involvement of state police in clearing out protestors, the placing of snipers on the roof of the Memorial Union and the arrest of 45 students and faculty was more a signal that intimidation and reactive control as the chosen option over seeking and providing a place for respectful dissent and dialogue. (#4 Herman B Wells knew the importance of civil dialogue and the place for dissent as he was engaged with students over multiple national and international crises.)

5)  Press freedom. The Indiana Daily Student newspaper, the I.U. Media School and the PBS television and radio stations (WTIU and WFIU) are in jeopardy of financial loss and the claim reporting is “misinformation.” Members of the House of Representatives Subcommittee known as DOGE (Department on Government Efficiency) continued demands to defund all public media. Indiana Lieutenant Governor Micah Beckwith threatened the Indiana Daily Student saying it promoted “WOKE propaganda” and that higher education centers like I.U. are “a complete jokes and indoctrination centers.” (#5 I.U. graduate Ernie Pyle, died covering WWII in the battle for Okinawa. He was a strong advocate for telling “the full story’ that involved features on the often overlooked “little guy.”)

6)  Support for Scientific Research. The tribulation surrounding support for scientific research comes from both the White House and the Indiana Legislature. There have been mass firings at the Center for Disease Control, the National Institute for Health, USAID, and environmental protection programs related to EPA, NOAH and NASA. Such bodies support tens of millions of dollars in research initiatives at I.U. Universities across the nation are threatened, as was Columbia University with the loss of research funds in March 2025. In February of 2025 a town hall meeting “Stand up for Science” was held with more than 150 participants of gathered faculty “Concerned Scientists at I.U.” and students, “Advocates for Science at I.U.”, on the Bloomington campus. The goal is to counter the “broad-side attack on the sciences and on universities as a whole.” One clear anti-science initiative passed by the Indiana House in 2023 was an attack on the work of the Kinsey Institute. In 2023, the Indiana General Assembly passed Act 1001 stating that “Indiana appropriations may not be used to pay for the administration, operation, or programs of the Kinsey Institute.” (#6 Kinsey)

7)  Value of Economic and Environmental Commons.  The massive layoffs underway slowing or shuttering local and international government activities threaten future opportunities for I.U. graduates to find meaningful employment and diminish the current and future research options for faculty. Cuts to USAID, FEMA, EPA, Medicaid, local community health initiatives (WIC – women and infant children), and feeding activities thought efforts like SNAP undermine future economic, environmental and health options for hundreds of millions in our world. I.U. Political Economist Professor Elinor Olstrom, winner of the Noble Prize in 2009, offered an approach to improve governance, economic and environmental practice – it was known as polycentric engagement. Her research demonstrated the value of persons working as part of a Commons – where polycentric engagement valued the diversity within communities and economic regions and offered ways to move to stronger governance that would benefit all. (#7 Olstrom)

Seven Tribulations of Higher Education

Indiana University, Bloomington

Like the Ten Plagues visited on the ancient Egyptian Pharoah, today American universities struggle with the Seven Tribulations of Higher Education.  Sadly, great flagship universities, like Indiana University, Bloomington, suffer from these tribulations. Actually, there are more than 7 or 10 tribulations. These tribulations involve dozens of intermingling jetties of mean-spirited national and state bigotries posing as populist politics. They are often cover for greedy efforts by the wealthy to lower their own taxes and undermine basic benefits for the poor in our nation and world. Birthed in ignorance of history and implemented with arrogance, they also, sadly, undercut educational opportunities for future generations of our children and youth.

These seven tribulations are mentioned in a series of four brief video recordings. These recordings were made alongside four of the remarkable leaders in the history of Indiana University. The video featuring Herman B Wells speaks of Academic Freedom, Equity and Racial Justice, Strong Community Relationships, and the right to Peaceful Protest. The video featuring Ernie Pyle speaks to the Freedom of the Press. The video featuring Alfred Kinsey speaks of the significance of scientific research. Finally, the video featuring Elinor Ostrom, speaks to the value of an Economic and Environmental Commons. 

Here is more background to accompany the Seven Tribulations of Higher Education videos:

1)  Academic Freedom: In recent years professors have been suspended, censured, or threatened for holding unpopular views; graduate student worker requests for better pay are ignored; a long-scheduled art exhibit was cancelled at the last minute; support for academic centers like the Kinsey Institute has been withheld; and, attacks on faculty from members of the state legislature pertaining to course content, faculty hiring and evaluation processes have been met with complicit silence. In April 2024, by large majorities, the faculty voted “no confidence” in the president, provost and vice provost. The “no confidence” vote on the president was over 93%. Following this, the board of trustees indicated “full support” for the president and offered scant attention to attacks on academic freedom.  (#1 video is at the statue with former president and chancellor, Herman B Wells)

2)  Equity and Racial Justice: The university commitment to an equal and accessible education for all has been attacked, undercut and greatly diminished. Again, this has been led by state house crafted legislative attacks on programs and funds designed to provide equal access to education for ALL students. The current national administration joins in a racist commitment to end all programming that is said to fall under the rubric of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion or DEI. The irony, of course, is that this hurts ALL students, including white students from low-wealth communities. I.U. has removed all DEI language from the university website. Posters on campus reading “Build a community where all belong” are being removed. The extent of the DEI cleansing is outlined in this article from the Indiana Daily Student: https://www.idsnews.com/article/2025/03/iu-dei-removed-diversity-language-website-posters. Addressing bigotry and discrimination based on race or wealth was once a core value of the university’s mission. As a Christian pastor, let me clearly name this as unbridled RACISM and an attack on the poor. (#2 Dr. Herman B Wells represented the idea in his actions and leadership that ALL students, no matter race, or wealth, should be afforded an opportunity for higher education.)

3)  Strong Community and International Relationships. As the flagship campus, I.U. Bloomington, has historically modeled a collaborative approach to the quality of life and environmental well-being of Monroe County and surrounding communities. This model has been replicated in other I. U. campus communities. Today the university offers few such cooperative efforts. I.U. Bloomington has increased enrollments without providing additional dormitory or apartment space, with little or no consultation with the city. As a result, Bloomington is among the most expensive cities in Indiana in terms of housing expenses and is below average income in the state for its workers. I.U. Bloomington has failed to lead in efforts to assist in planning that would welcome a racially and economically diverse citizenry, improve low-income housing options and provide stronger wages. There is little long-range cooperative planning efforts with the City of Bloomington or Monroe County. Other cities where Big Ten university flagship campuses are located have demonstrated the value of such cooperation. Administrative leaders are largely absent from social service, artistic, religious, economic development, housing, philanthropic and public boards or community celebrations. At the international level I.U. has been a center for language studies and efforts to build civil societies around the world. I.U. has also been a place where international students are welcomed and valued. Academic centers like the Hamilton Lugar School of Global and International Studies or the Kelley School of Business face new challenges to a core mission of building international practices of democratic civic and commercial engagement. Anti-immigrant activities in our nation and endorsed by the current Indiana governor serve to threaten this long-practiced hospitality. (#3 Herman B Wells understood that building strong human relationships was as essential to a successful university as the garnering of power and control though political or judicial alliances. Dr. Wells work served as an underpinning for the educational and cultural programs of the Marshall Plan following World War II).

4)   The Right to Peaceful Protest. Freedom to demonstrate and offer alternative perspectives is being denied at Indiana University. In early 2024 The Council on American Islamic Relations cited “Indiana University a ‘hostile campus’ for Muslim, Palestinian and Arab students.” The attacks on innocent Israelis on October 6th, 2023, resulted in 1,200 murders and more than 250 captives taken into Gaza by Hamas. This remains a horrific event. The response of Israeli government has resulted in the deaths of more than 50,000 persons in Gaza. Should not the university be a place where all sides to this ongoing tragedy be offered a hearing? Yes. Isn’t the work of a university to prepare students to dialogue respectfully with others who differ. One wonders why the heavy-handed behaviors of the administration with last minute “Expressive Activity Policy” changes, the denial of space for meetings, the involvement of state police in clearing out protestors, the placing of snipers on the roof of the Memorial Union and the arrest of 45 students and faculty was more a signal that intimidation and reactive control as the chosen option over seeking and providing a place for respectful dissent and dialogue. (#4 Herman B Wells knew the importance of civil dialogue and the place for dissent as he was engaged with students over multiple national and international crises.)

5)  Press freedom. The Indiana Daily Student newspaper, the I.U. Media School and the PBS television and radio stations (WTIU and WFIU) are in jeopardy of financial loss and the claim reporting is “misinformation.” Members of the House of Representatives Subcommittee known as DOGE (Department on Government Efficiency) continued demands to defund all public media. Indiana Lieutenant Governor Micah Beckwith threatened the Indiana Daily Student saying it promoted “WOKE propaganda” and that higher education centers like I.U. are “a complete jokes and indoctrination centers.” (#5 I.U. graduate Ernie Pyle, died covering WWII in the battle for Okinawa. He was a strong advocate for telling “the full story’ that involved features on the often overlooked “little guy.”)

6)  Support for Scientific Research. The tribulation surrounding support for scientific research comes from both the White House and the Indiana Legislature. There have been mass firings at the Center for Disease Control, the National Institute for Health, USAID, and environmental protection programs related to EPA, NOAH and NASA. Such bodies support tens of millions of dollars in research initiatives at I.U. Universities across the nation are threatened, as was Columbia University with the loss of research funds in March 2025. In February of 2025 a town hall meeting “Stand up for Science” was held with more than 150 participants of gathered faculty “Concerned Scientists at I.U.” and students, “Advocates for Science at I.U.”, on the Bloomington campus. The goal is to counter the “broad-side attack on the sciences and on universities as a whole.” One clear anti-science initiative passed by the Indiana House in 2023 was an attack on the work of the Kinsey Institute. In 2023, the Indiana General Assembly passed Act 1001 stating that “Indiana appropriations may not be used to pay for the administration, operation, or programs of the Kinsey Institute.” (#6 Kinsey)

7)  Value of Economic and Environmental Commons.  The...]]>A Conversation with Alfred Kinsey: Seven Tribulations of Higher Education

Seven Tribulations of Higher Education

Indiana University, Bloomington

Like the Ten Plagues visited on the ancient Egyptian Pharoah, today American universities struggle with the Seven Tribulations of Higher Education.  Sadly, great flagship universities, like Indiana University, Bloomington, suffer from these tribulations. Actually, there are more than 7 or 10 tribulations. These tribulations involve dozens of intermingling jetties of mean-spirited national and state bigotries posing as populist politics. They are often cover for greedy efforts by the wealthy to lower their own taxes and undermine basic benefits for the poor in our nation and world. Birthed in ignorance of history and implemented with arrogance, they also, sadly, undercut educational opportunities for future generations of our children and youth.

These seven tribulations are mentioned in a series of four brief video recordings. These recordings were made alongside four of the remarkable leaders in the history of Indiana University. The video featuring Herman B Wells speaks of Academic Freedom, Equity and Racial Justice, Strong Community Relationships, and the right to Peaceful Protest. The video featuring Ernie Pyle speaks to the Freedom of the Press. The video featuring Alfred Kinsey speaks of the significance of scientific research. Finally, the video featuring Elinor Ostrom, speaks to the value of an Economic and Environmental Commons. 

Here is more background to accompany the Seven Tribulations of Higher Education videos:

1)  Academic Freedom: In recent years professors have been suspended, censured, or threatened for holding unpopular views; graduate student worker requests for better pay are ignored; a long-scheduled art exhibit was cancelled at the last minute; support for academic centers like the Kinsey Institute has been withheld; and, attacks on faculty from members of the state legislature pertaining to course content, faculty hiring and evaluation processes have been met with complicit silence. In April 2024, by large majorities, the faculty voted “no confidence” in the president, provost and vice provost. The “no confidence” vote on the president was over 93%. Following this, the board of trustees indicated “full support” for the president and offered scant attention to attacks on academic freedom.  (#1 video is at the statue with former president and chancellor, Herman B Wells)

2)  Equity and Racial Justice: The university commitment to an equal and accessible education for all has been attacked, undercut and greatly diminished. Again, this has been led by state house crafted legislative attacks on programs and funds designed to provide equal access to education for ALL students. The current national administration joins in a racist commitment to end all programming that is said to fall under the rubric of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion or DEI. The irony, of course, is that this hurts ALL students, including white students from low-wealth communities. I.U. has removed all DEI language from the university website. Posters on campus reading “Build a community where all belong” are being removed. The extent of the DEI cleansing is outlined in this article from the Indiana Daily Student: https://www.idsnews.com/article/2025/03/iu-dei-removed-diversity-language-website-posters. Addressing bigotry and discrimination based on race or wealth was once a core value of the university’s mission. As a Christian pastor, let me clearly name this as unbridled RACISM and an attack on the poor. (#2 Dr. Herman B Wells represented the idea in his actions and leadership that ALL students, no matter race, or wealth, should be afforded an opportunity for higher education.)

3)  Strong Community and International Relationships. As the flagship campus, I.U. Bloomington, has historically modeled a collaborative approach to the quality of life and environmental well-being of Monroe County and surrounding communities. This model has been replicated in other I. U. campus communities. Today the university offers few such cooperative efforts. I.U. Bloomington has increased enrollments without providing additional dormitory or apartment space, with little or no consultation with the city. As a result, Bloomington is among the most expensive cities in Indiana in terms of housing expenses and is below average income in the state for its workers. I.U. Bloomington has failed to lead in efforts to assist in planning that would welcome a racially and economically diverse citizenry, improve low-income housing options and provide stronger wages. There is little long-range cooperative planning efforts with the City of Bloomington or Monroe County. Other cities where Big Ten university flagship campuses are located have demonstrated the value of such cooperation. Administrative leaders are largely absent from social service, artistic, religious, economic development, housing, philanthropic and public boards or community celebrations. At the international level I.U. has been a center for language studies and efforts to build civil societies around the world. I.U. has also been a place where international students are welcomed and valued. Academic centers like the Hamilton Lugar School of Global and International Studies or the Kelley School of Business face new challenges to a core mission of building international practices of democratic civic and commercial engagement. Anti-immigrant activities in our nation and endorsed by the current Indiana governor serve to threaten this long-practiced hospitality. (#3 Herman B Wells understood that building strong human relationships was as essential to a successful university as the garnering of power and control though political or judicial alliances. Dr. Wells work served as an underpinning for the educational and cultural programs of the Marshall Plan following World War II).

4)   The Right to Peaceful Protest. Freedom to demonstrate and offer alternative perspectives is being denied at Indiana University. In early 2024 The Council on American Islamic Relations cited “Indiana University a ‘hostile campus’ for Muslim, Palestinian and Arab students.” The attacks on innocent Israelis on October 6th, 2023, resulted in 1,200 murders and more than 250 captives taken into Gaza by Hamas. This remains a horrific event. The response of Israeli government has resulted in the deaths of more than 50,000 persons in Gaza. Should not the university be a place where all sides to this ongoing tragedy be offered a hearing? Yes. Isn’t the work of a university to prepare students to dialogue respectfully with others who differ. One wonders why the heavy-handed behaviors of the administration with last minute “Expressive Activity Policy” changes, the denial of space for meetings, the involvement of state police in clearing out protestors, the placing of snipers on the roof of the Memorial Union and the arrest of 45 students and faculty was more a signal that intimidation and reactive control as the chosen option over seeking and providing a place for respectful dissent and dialogue. (#4 Herman B Wells knew the importance of civil dialogue and the place for dissent as he was engaged with students over multiple national and international crises.)

5)  Press freedom. The Indiana Daily Student newspaper, the I.U. Media School and the PBS television and radio stations (WTIU and WFIU) are in jeopardy of financial loss and the claim reporting is “misinformation.” Members of the House of Representatives Subcommittee known as DOGE (Department on Government Efficiency) continued demands to defund all public media. Indiana Lieutenant Governor Micah Beckwith threatened the Indiana Daily Student saying it promoted “WOKE propaganda” and that higher education centers like I.U. are “a complete jokes and indoctrination centers.” (#5 I.U. graduate Ernie Pyle, died covering WWII in the battle for Okinawa. He was a strong advocate for telling “the full story’ that involved features on the often overlooked “little guy.”)

6)  Support for Scientific Research. The tribulation surrounding support for scientific research comes from both the White House and the Indiana Legislature. There have been mass firings at the Center for Disease Control, the National Institute for Health, USAID, and environmental protection programs related to EPA, NOAH and NASA. Such bodies support tens of millions of dollars in research initiatives at I.U. Universities across the nation are threatened, as was Columbia University with the loss of research funds in March 2025. In February of 2025 a town hall meeting “Stand up for Science” was held with more than 150 participants of gathered faculty “Concerned Scientists at I.U.” and students, “Advocates for Science at I.U.”, on the Bloomington campus. The goal is to counter the “broad-side attack on the sciences and on universities as a whole.” One clear anti-science initiative passed by the Indiana House in 2023 was an attack on the work of the Kinsey Institute. In 2023, the Indiana General Assembly passed Act 1001 stating that “Indiana appropriations may not be used to pay for the administration, operation, or programs of the Kinsey Institute.” (#6 Kinsey)

7)  Value of Economic and Environmental Commons.  The massive layoffs underway slowing or shuttering local and international government activities threaten future opportunities for I.U. graduates to find meaningful employment and diminish the current and future research options for faculty. Cuts to USAID, FEMA, EPA, Medicaid, local community health initiatives (WIC – women and infant children), and feeding activities thought efforts like SNAP undermine future economic, environmental and health options for hundreds of millions in our world. I.U. Political Economist Professor Elinor Olstrom, winner of the Noble Prize in 2009, offered an approach to improve governance, economic and environmental practice – it was known as polycentric engagement. Her research demonstrated the value of persons working as part of a Commons – where polycentric engagement valued the diversity within communities and economic regions and offered ways to move to stronger governance that would benefit all. (#7 Olstrom)

Seven Tribulations of Higher Education

Indiana University, Bloomington

Like the Ten Plagues visited on the ancient Egyptian Pharoah, today American universities struggle with the Seven Tribulations of Higher Education.  Sadly, great flagship universities, like Indiana University, Bloomington, suffer from these tribulations. Actually, there are more than 7 or 10 tribulations. These tribulations involve dozens of intermingling jetties of mean-spirited national and state bigotries posing as populist politics. They are often cover for greedy efforts by the wealthy to lower their own taxes and undermine basic benefits for the poor in our nation and world. Birthed in ignorance of history and implemented with arrogance, they also, sadly, undercut educational opportunities for future generations of our children and youth.

These seven tribulations are mentioned in a series of four brief video recordings. These recordings were made alongside four of the remarkable leaders in the history of Indiana University. The video featuring Herman B Wells speaks of Academic Freedom, Equity and Racial Justice, Strong Community Relationships, and the right to Peaceful Protest. The video featuring Ernie Pyle speaks to the Freedom of the Press. The video featuring Alfred Kinsey speaks of the significance of scientific research. Finally, the video featuring Elinor Ostrom, speaks to the value of an Economic and Environmental Commons. 

Here is more background to accompany the Seven Tribulations of Higher Education videos:

1)  Academic Freedom: In recent years professors have been suspended, censured, or threatened for holding unpopular views; graduate student worker requests for better pay are ignored; a long-scheduled art exhibit was cancelled at the last minute; support for academic centers like the Kinsey Institute has been withheld; and, attacks on faculty from members of the state legislature pertaining to course content, faculty hiring and evaluation processes have been met with complicit silence. In April 2024, by large majorities, the faculty voted “no confidence” in the president, provost and vice provost. The “no confidence” vote on the president was over 93%. Following this, the board of trustees indicated “full support” for the president and offered scant attention to attacks on academic freedom.  (#1 video is at the statue with former president and chancellor, Herman B Wells)

2)  Equity and Racial Justice: The university commitment to an equal and accessible education for all has been attacked, undercut and greatly diminished. Again, this has been led by state house crafted legislative attacks on programs and funds designed to provide equal access to education for ALL students. The current national administration joins in a racist commitment to end all programming that is said to fall under the rubric of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion or DEI. The irony, of course, is that this hurts ALL students, including white students from low-wealth communities. I.U. has removed all DEI language from the university website. Posters on campus reading “Build a community where all belong” are being removed. The extent of the DEI cleansing is outlined in this article from the Indiana Daily Student: https://www.idsnews.com/article/2025/03/iu-dei-removed-diversity-language-website-posters. Addressing bigotry and discrimination based on race or wealth was once a core value of the university’s mission. As a Christian pastor, let me clearly name this as unbridled RACISM and an attack on the poor. (#2 Dr. Herman B Wells represented the idea in his actions and leadership that ALL students, no matter race, or wealth, should be afforded an opportunity for higher education.)

3)  Strong Community and International Relationships. As the flagship campus, I.U. Bloomington, has historically modeled a collaborative approach to the quality of life and environmental well-being of Monroe County and surrounding communities. This model has been replicated in other I. U. campus communities. Today the university offers few such cooperative efforts. I.U. Bloomington has increased enrollments without providing additional dormitory or apartment space, with little or no consultation with the city. As a result, Bloomington is among the most expensive cities in Indiana in terms of housing expenses and is below average income in the state for its workers. I.U. Bloomington has failed to lead in efforts to assist in planning that would welcome a racially and economically diverse citizenry, improve low-income housing options and provide stronger wages. There is little long-range cooperative planning efforts with the City of Bloomington or Monroe County. Other cities where Big Ten university flagship campuses are located have demonstrated the value of such cooperation. Administrative leaders are largely absent from social service, artistic, religious, economic development, housing, philanthropic and public boards or community celebrations. At the international level I.U. has been a center for language studies and efforts to build civil societies around the world. I.U. has also been a place where international students are welcomed and valued. Academic centers like the Hamilton Lugar School of Global and International Studies or the Kelley School of Business face new challenges to a core mission of building international practices of democratic civic and commercial engagement. Anti-immigrant activities in our nation and endorsed by the current Indiana governor serve to threaten this long-practiced hospitality. (#3 Herman B Wells understood that building strong human relationships was as essential to a successful university as the garnering of power and control though political or judicial alliances. Dr. Wells work served as an underpinning for the educational and cultural programs of the Marshall Plan following World War II).

4)   The Right to Peaceful Protest. Freedom to demonstrate and offer alternative perspectives is being denied at Indiana University. In early 2024 The Council on American Islamic Relations cited “Indiana University a ‘hostile campus’ for Muslim, Palestinian and Arab students.” The attacks on innocent Israelis on October 6th, 2023, resulted in 1,200 murders and more than 250 captives taken into Gaza by Hamas. This remains a horrific event. The response of Israeli government has resulted in the deaths of more than 50,000 persons in Gaza. Should not the university be a place where all sides to this ongoing tragedy be offered a hearing? Yes. Isn’t the work of a university to prepare students to dialogue respectfully with others who differ. One wonders why the heavy-handed behaviors of the administration with last minute “Expressive Activity Policy” changes, the denial of space for meetings, the involvement of state police in clearing out protestors, the placing of snipers on the roof of the Memorial Union and the arrest of 45 students and faculty was more a signal that intimidation and reactive control as the chosen option over seeking and providing a place for respectful dissent and dialogue. (#4 Herman B Wells knew the importance of civil dialogue and the place for dissent as he was engaged with students over multiple national and international crises.)

5)  Press freedom. The Indiana Daily Student newspaper, the I.U. Media School and the PBS television and radio stations (WTIU and WFIU) are in jeopardy of financial loss and the claim reporting is “misinformation.” Members of the House of Representatives Subcommittee known as DOGE (Department on Government Efficiency) continued demands to defund all public media. Indiana Lieutenant Governor Micah Beckwith threatened the Indiana Daily Student saying it promoted “WOKE propaganda” and that higher education centers like I.U. are “a complete jokes and indoctrination centers.” (#5 I.U. graduate Ernie Pyle, died covering WWII in the battle for Okinawa. He was a strong advocate for telling “the full story’ that involved features on the often overlooked “little guy.”)

6)  Support for Scientific Research. The tribulation surrounding support for scientific research comes from both the White House and the Indiana Legislature. There have been mass firings at the Center for Disease Control, the National Institute for Health, USAID, and environmental protection programs related to EPA, NOAH and NASA. Such bodies support tens of millions of dollars in research initiatives at I.U. Universities across the nation are threatened, as was Columbia University with the loss of research funds in March 2025. In February of 2025 a town hall meeting “Stand up for Science” was held with more than 150 participants of gathered faculty “Concerned Scientists at I.U.” and students, “Advocates for Science at I.U.”, on the Bloomington campus. The goal is to counter the “broad-side attack on the sciences and on universities as a whole.” One clear anti-science initiative passed by the Indiana House in 2023 was an attack on the work of the Kinsey Institute. In 2023, the Indiana General Assembly passed Act 1001 stating that “Indiana appropriations may not be used to pay for the administration, operation, or programs of the Kinsey Institute.” (#6 Kinsey)

7)  Value of Economic and...]]>A Conversation with Ernie Pyle: The Seven Tribulations of Higher Education at Indiana University

Seven Tribulations of Higher Education

Indiana University, Bloomington

Like the Ten Plagues visited on the ancient Egyptian Pharoah, today American universities struggle with the Seven Tribulations of Higher Education.  Sadly, great flagship universities, like Indiana University, Bloomington, suffer from these tribulations. Actually, there are more than 7 or 10 tribulations. These tribulations involve dozens of intermingling jetties of mean-spirited national and state bigotries posing as populist politics. They are often cover for greedy efforts by the wealthy to lower their own taxes and undermine basic benefits for the poor in our nation and world. Birthed in ignorance of history and implemented with arrogance, they also, sadly, undercut educational opportunities for future generations of our children and youth.

These seven tribulations are mentioned in a series of four brief video recordings. These recordings were made alongside four of the remarkable leaders in the history of Indiana University. The video featuring Herman B Wells speaks of Academic Freedom, Equity and Racial Justice, Strong Community Relationships, and the right to Peaceful Protest. The video featuring Ernie Pyle speaks to the Freedom of the Press. The video featuring Alfred Kinsey speaks of the significance of scientific research. Finally, the video featuring Elinor Ostrom, speaks to the value of an Economic and Environmental Commons. 

Here is more background to accompany the Seven Tribulations of Higher Education videos:

1)  Academic Freedom: In recent years professors have been suspended, censured, or threatened for holding unpopular views; graduate student worker requests for better pay are ignored; a long-scheduled art exhibit was cancelled at the last minute; support for academic centers like the Kinsey Institute has been withheld; and, attacks on faculty from members of the state legislature pertaining to course content, faculty hiring and evaluation processes have been met with complicit silence. In April 2024, by large majorities, the faculty voted “no confidence” in the president, provost and vice provost. The “no confidence” vote on the president was over 93%. Following this, the board of trustees indicated “full support” for the president and offered scant attention to attacks on academic freedom.  (#1 video is at the statue with former president and chancellor, Herman B Wells)

2)  Equity and Racial Justice: The university commitment to an equal and accessible education for all has been attacked, undercut and greatly diminished. Again, this has been led by state house crafted legislative attacks on programs and funds designed to provide equal access to education for ALL students. The current national administration joins in a racist commitment to end all programming that is said to fall under the rubric of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion or DEI. The irony, of course, is that this hurts ALL students, including white students from low-wealth communities. I.U. has removed all DEI language from the university website. Posters on campus reading “Build a community where all belong” are being removed. The extent of the DEI cleansing is outlined in this article from the Indiana Daily Student: https://www.idsnews.com/article/2025/03/iu-dei-removed-diversity-language-website-posters. Addressing bigotry and discrimination based on race or wealth was once a core value of the university’s mission. As a Christian pastor, let me clearly name this as unbridled RACISM and an attack on the poor. (#2 Dr. Herman B Wells represented the idea in his actions and leadership that ALL students, no matter race, or wealth, should be afforded an opportunity for higher education.)

3)  Strong Community and International Relationships. As the flagship campus, I.U. Bloomington, has historically modeled a collaborative approach to the quality of life and environmental well-being of Monroe County and surrounding communities. This model has been replicated in other I. U. campus communities. Today the university offers few such cooperative efforts. I.U. Bloomington has increased enrollments without providing additional dormitory or apartment space, with little or no consultation with the city. As a result, Bloomington is among the most expensive cities in Indiana in terms of housing expenses and is below average income in the state for its workers. I.U. Bloomington has failed to lead in efforts to assist in planning that would welcome a racially and economically diverse citizenry, improve low-income housing options and provide stronger wages. There is little long-range cooperative planning efforts with the City of Bloomington or Monroe County. Other cities where Big Ten university flagship campuses are located have demonstrated the value of such cooperation. Administrative leaders are largely absent from social service, artistic, religious, economic development, housing, philanthropic and public boards or community celebrations. At the international level I.U. has been a center for language studies and efforts to build civil societies around the world. I.U. has also been a place where international students are welcomed and valued. Academic centers like the Hamilton Lugar School of Global and International Studies or the Kelley School of Business face new challenges to a core mission of building international practices of democratic civic and commercial engagement. Anti-immigrant activities in our nation and endorsed by the current Indiana governor serve to threaten this long-practiced hospitality. (#3 Herman B Wells understood that building strong human relationships was as essential to a successful university as the garnering of power and control though political or judicial alliances. Dr. Wells work served as an underpinning for the educational and cultural programs of the Marshall Plan following World War II).

4)   The Right to Peaceful Protest. Freedom to demonstrate and offer alternative perspectives is being denied at Indiana University. In early 2024 The Council on American Islamic Relations cited “Indiana University a ‘hostile campus’ for Muslim, Palestinian and Arab students.” The attacks on innocent Israelis on October 6th, 2023, resulted in 1,200 murders and more than 250 captives taken into Gaza by Hamas. This remains a horrific event. The response of Israeli government has resulted in the deaths of more than 50,000 persons in Gaza. Should not the university be a place where all sides to this ongoing tragedy be offered a hearing? Yes. Isn’t the work of a university to prepare students to dialogue respectfully with others who differ. One wonders why the heavy-handed behaviors of the administration with last minute “Expressive Activity Policy” changes, the denial of space for meetings, the involvement of state police in clearing out protestors, the placing of snipers on the roof of the Memorial Union and the arrest of 45 students and faculty was more a signal that intimidation and reactive control as the chosen option over seeking and providing a place for respectful dissent and dialogue. (#4 Herman B Wells knew the importance of civil dialogue and the place for dissent as he was engaged with students over multiple national and international crises.)

5)  Press freedom. The Indiana Daily Student newspaper, the I.U. Media School and the PBS television and radio stations (WTIU and WFIU) are in jeopardy of financial loss and the claim reporting is “misinformation.” Members of the House of Representatives Subcommittee known as DOGE (Department on Government Efficiency) continued demands to defund all public media. Indiana Lieutenant Governor Micah Beckwith threatened the Indiana Daily Student saying it promoted “WOKE propaganda” and that higher education centers like I.U. are “a complete jokes and indoctrination centers.” (#5 I.U. graduate Ernie Pyle, died covering WWII in the battle for Okinawa. He was a strong advocate for telling “the full story’ that involved features on the often overlooked “little guy.”)

6)  Support for Scientific Research. The tribulation surrounding support for scientific research comes from both the White House and the Indiana Legislature. There have been mass firings at the Center for Disease Control, the National Institute for Health, USAID, and environmental protection programs related to EPA, NOAH and NASA. Such bodies support tens of millions of dollars in research initiatives at I.U. Universities across the nation are threatened, as was Columbia University with the loss of research funds in March 2025. In February of 2025 a town hall meeting “Stand up for Science” was held with more than 150 participants of gathered faculty “Concerned Scientists at I.U.” and students, “Advocates for Science at I.U.”, on the Bloomington campus. The goal is to counter the “broad-side attack on the sciences and on universities as a whole.” One clear anti-science initiative passed by the Indiana House in 2023 was an attack on the work of the Kinsey Institute. In 2023, the Indiana General Assembly passed Act 1001 stating that “Indiana appropriations may not be used to pay for the administration, operation, or programs of the Kinsey Institute.” (#6 Kinsey)

7)  Value of Economic and Environmental Commons.  The massive layoffs underway slowing or shuttering local and international government activities threaten future opportunities for I.U. graduates to find meaningful employment and diminish the current and future research options for faculty. Cuts to USAID, FEMA, EPA, Medicaid, local community health initiatives (WIC – women and infant children), and feeding activities thought efforts like SNAP undermine future economic, environmental and health options for hundreds of millions in our world. I.U. Political Economist Professor Elinor Olstrom, winner of the Noble Prize in 2009, offered an approach to improve governance, economic and environmental practice – it was known as polycentric engagement. Her research demonstrated the value of persons working as part of a Commons – where polycentric engagement valued the diversity within communities and economic regions and offered ways to move to stronger governance that would benefit all. (#7 Olstrom)

Indiana University, Bloomington

Like the Ten Plagues visited on the ancient Egyptian Pharoah, today American universities struggle with the Seven Tribulations of Higher Education.  Sadly, great flagship universities, like Indiana University, Bloomington, suffer from these tribulations. Actually, there are more than 7 or 10 tribulations. These tribulations involve dozens of intermingling jetties of mean-spirited national and state bigotries posing as populist politics. They are often cover for greedy efforts by the wealthy to lower their own taxes and undermine basic benefits for the poor in our nation and world. Birthed in ignorance of history and implemented with arrogance, they also, sadly, undercut educational opportunities for future generations of our children and youth.

These seven tribulations are mentioned in a series of four brief video recordings. These recordings were made alongside four of the remarkable leaders in the history of Indiana University. The video featuring Herman B Wells speaks of Academic Freedom, Equity and Racial Justice, Strong Community Relationships, and the right to Peaceful Protest. The video featuring Ernie Pyle speaks to the Freedom of the Press. The video featuring Alfred Kinsey speaks of the significance of scientific research. Finally, the video featuring Elinor Ostrom, speaks to the value of an Economic and Environmental Commons. 

Here is more background to accompany the Seven Tribulations of Higher Education videos:

1)  Academic Freedom: In recent years professors have been suspended, censured, or threatened for holding unpopular views; graduate student worker requests for better pay are ignored; a long-scheduled art exhibit was cancelled at the last minute; support for academic centers like the Kinsey Institute has been withheld; and, attacks on faculty from members of the state legislature pertaining to course content, faculty hiring and evaluation processes have been met with complicit silence. In April 2024, by large majorities, the faculty voted “no confidence” in the president, provost and vice provost. The “no confidence” vote on the president was over 93%. Following this, the board of trustees indicated “full support” for the president and offered scant attention to attacks on academic freedom.  (#1 video is at the statue with former president and chancellor, Herman B Wells)

2)  Equity and Racial Justice: The university commitment to an equal and accessible education for all has been attacked, undercut and greatly diminished. Again, this has been led by state house crafted legislative attacks on programs and funds designed to provide equal access to education for ALL students. The current national administration joins in a racist commitment to end all programming that is said to fall under the rubric of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion or DEI. The irony, of course, is that this hurts ALL students, including white students from low-wealth communities. I.U. has removed all DEI language from the university website. Posters on campus reading “Build a community where all belong” are being removed. The extent of the DEI cleansing is outlined in this article from the Indiana Daily Student: https://www.idsnews.com/article/2025/03/iu-dei-removed-diversity-language-website-posters. Addressing bigotry and discrimination based on race or wealth was once a core value of the university’s mission. As a Christian pastor, let me clearly name this as unbridled RACISM and an attack on the poor. (#2 Dr. Herman B Wells represented the idea in his actions and leadership that ALL students, no matter race, or wealth, should be afforded an opportunity for higher education.)

3)  Strong Community and International Relationships. As the flagship campus, I.U. Bloomington, has historically modeled a collaborative approach to the quality of life and environmental well-being of Monroe County and surrounding communities. This model has been replicated in other I. U. campus communities. Today the university offers few such cooperative efforts. I.U. Bloomington has increased enrollments without providing additional dormitory or apartment space, with little or no consultation with the city. As a result, Bloomington is among the most expensive cities in Indiana in terms of housing expenses and is below average income in the state for its workers. I.U. Bloomington has failed to lead in efforts to assist in planning that would welcome a racially and economically diverse citizenry, improve low-income housing options and provide stronger wages. There is little long-range cooperative planning efforts with the City of Bloomington or Monroe County. Other cities where Big Ten university flagship campuses are located have demonstrated the value of such cooperation. Administrative leaders are largely absent from social service, artistic, religious, economic development, housing, philanthropic and public boards or community celebrations. At the international level I.U. has been a center for language studies and efforts to build civil societies around the world. I.U. has also been a place where international students are welcomed and valued. Academic centers like the Hamilton Lugar School of Global and International Studies or the Kelley School of Business face new challenges to a core mission of building international practices of democratic civic and commercial engagement. Anti-immigrant activities in our nation and endorsed by the current Indiana governor serve to threaten this long-practiced hospitality. (#3 Herman B Wells understood that building strong human relationships was as essential to a successful university as the garnering of power and control though political or judicial alliances. Dr. Wells work served as an underpinning for the educational and cultural programs of the Marshall Plan following World War II).

4)   The Right to Peaceful Protest. Freedom to demonstrate and offer alternative perspectives is being denied at Indiana University. In early 2024 The Council on American Islamic Relations cited “Indiana University a ‘hostile campus’ for Muslim, Palestinian and Arab students.” The attacks on innocent Israelis on October 6th, 2023, resulted in 1,200 murders and more than 250 captives taken into Gaza by Hamas. This remains a horrific event. The response of Israeli government has resulted in the deaths of more than 50,000 persons in Gaza. Should not the university be a place where all sides to this ongoing tragedy be offered a hearing? Yes. Isn’t the work of a university to prepare students to dialogue respectfully with others who differ. One wonders why the heavy-handed behaviors of the administration with last minute “Expressive Activity Policy” changes, the denial of space for meetings, the involvement of state police in clearing out protestors, the placing of snipers on the roof of the Memorial Union and the arrest of 45 students and faculty was more a signal that intimidation and reactive control as the chosen option over seeking and providing a place for respectful dissent and dialogue. (#4 Herman B Wells knew the importance of civil dialogue and the place for dissent as he was engaged with students over multiple national and international crises.)

5)  Press freedom. The Indiana Daily Student newspaper, the I.U. Media School and the PBS television and radio stations (WTIU and WFIU) are in jeopardy of financial loss and the claim reporting is “misinformation.” Members of the House of Representatives Subcommittee known as DOGE (Department on Government Efficiency) continued demands to defund all public media. Indiana Lieutenant Governor Micah Beckwith threatened the Indiana Daily Student saying it promoted “WOKE propaganda” and that higher education centers like I.U. are “a complete jokes and indoctrination centers.” (#5 I.U. graduate Ernie Pyle, died covering WWII in the battle for Okinawa. He was a strong advocate for telling “the full story’ that involved features on the often overlooked “little guy.”)

6)  Support for Scientific Research. The tribulation surrounding support for scientific research comes from both the White House and the Indiana Legislature. There have been mass firings at the Center for Disease Control, the National Institute for Health, USAID, and environmental protection programs related to EPA, NOAH and NASA. Such bodies support tens of millions of dollars in research initiatives at I.U. Universities across the nation are threatened, as was Columbia University with the loss of research funds in March 2025. In February of 2025 a town hall meeting “Stand up for Science” was held with more than 150 participants of gathered faculty “Concerned Scientists at I.U.” and students, “Advocates for Science at I.U.”, on the Bloomington campus. The goal is to counter the “broad-side attack on the sciences and on universities as a whole.” One clear anti-science initiative passed by the Indiana House in 2023 was an attack on the work of the Kinsey Institute. In 2023, the Indiana General Assembly passed Act 1001 stating that “Indiana appropriations may not be used to pay for the administration, operation, or programs of the Kinsey Institute.” (#6...]]>Seven Tribulations of Higher Education

Indiana University, Bloomington

Like the Ten Plagues visited on the ancient Egyptian Pharoah, today American universities struggle with the Seven Tribulations of Higher Education.  Sadly, great flagship universities, like Indiana University, Bloomington, suffer from these tribulations. Actually, there are more than 7 or 10 tribulations. These tribulations involve dozens of intermingling jetties of mean-spirited national and state bigotries posing as populist politics. They are often cover for greedy efforts by the wealthy to lower their own taxes and undermine basic benefits for the poor in our nation and world. Birthed in ignorance of history and implemented with arrogance, they also, sadly, undercut educational opportunities for future generations of our children and youth.

These seven tribulations are mentioned in a series of four brief video recordings. These recordings were made alongside four of the remarkable leaders in the history of Indiana University. The video featuring Herman B Wells speaks of Academic Freedom, Equity and Racial Justice, Strong Community Relationships, and the right to Peaceful Protest. The video featuring Ernie Pyle speaks to the Freedom of the Press. The video featuring Alfred Kinsey speaks of the significance of scientific research. Finally, the video featuring Elinor Ostrom, speaks to the value of an Economic and Environmental Commons. 

Here is more background to accompany the Seven Tribulations of Higher Education videos:

1)  Academic Freedom: In recent years professors have been suspended, censured, or threatened for holding unpopular views; graduate student worker requests for better pay are ignored; a long-scheduled art exhibit was cancelled at the last minute; support for academic centers like the Kinsey Institute has been withheld; and, attacks on faculty from members of the state legislature pertaining to course content, faculty hiring and evaluation processes have been met with complicit silence. In April 2024, by large majorities, the faculty voted “no confidence” in the president, provost and vice provost. The “no confidence” vote on the president was over 93%. Following this, the board of trustees indicated “full support” for the president and offered scant attention to attacks on academic freedom.  (#1 video is at the statue with former president and chancellor, Herman B Wells)

2)  Equity and Racial Justice: The university commitment to an equal and accessible education for all has been attacked, undercut and greatly diminished. Again, this has been led by state house crafted legislative attacks on programs and funds designed to provide equal access to education for ALL students. The current national administration joins in a racist commitment to end all programming that is said to fall under the rubric of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion or DEI. The irony, of course, is that this hurts ALL students, including white students from low-wealth communities. I.U. has removed all DEI language from the university website. Posters on campus reading “Build a community where all belong” are being removed. The extent of the DEI cleansing is outlined in this article from the Indiana Daily Student: https://www.idsnews.com/article/2025/03/iu-dei-removed-diversity-language-website-posters. Addressing bigotry and discrimination based on race or wealth was once a core value of the university’s mission. As a Christian pastor, let me clearly name this as unbridled RACISM and an attack on the poor. (#2 Dr. Herman B Wells represented the idea in his actions and leadership that ALL students, no matter race, or wealth, should be afforded an opportunity for higher education.)

3)  Strong Community and International Relationships. As the flagship campus, I.U. Bloomington, has historically modeled a collaborative approach to the quality of life and environmental well-being of Monroe County and surrounding communities. This model has been replicated in other I. U. campus communities. Today the university offers few such cooperative efforts. I.U. Bloomington has increased enrollments without providing additional dormitory or apartment space, with little or no consultation with the city. As a result, Bloomington is among the most expensive cities in Indiana in terms of housing expenses and is below average income in the state for its workers. I.U. Bloomington has failed to lead in efforts to assist in planning that would welcome a racially and economically diverse citizenry, improve low-income housing options and provide stronger wages. There is little long-range cooperative planning efforts with the City of Bloomington or Monroe County. Other cities where Big Ten university flagship campuses are located have demonstrated the value of such cooperation. Administrative leaders are largely absent from social service, artistic, religious, economic development, housing, philanthropic and public boards or community celebrations. At the international level I.U. has been a center for language studies and efforts to build civil societies around the world. I.U. has also been a place where international students are welcomed and valued. Academic centers like the Hamilton Lugar School of Global and International Studies or the Kelley School of Business face new challenges to a core mission of building international practices of democratic civic and commercial engagement. Anti-immigrant activities in our nation and endorsed by the current Indiana governor serve to threaten this long-practiced hospitality. (#3 Herman B Wells understood that building strong human relationships was as essential to a successful university as the garnering of power and control though political or judicial alliances. Dr. Wells work served as an underpinning for the educational and cultural programs of the Marshall Plan following World War II).

4)   The Right to Peaceful Protest. Freedom to demonstrate and offer alternative perspectives is being denied at Indiana University. In early 2024 The Council on American Islamic Relations cited “Indiana University a ‘hostile campus’ for Muslim, Palestinian and Arab students.” The attacks on innocent Israelis on October 6th, 2023, resulted in 1,200 murders and more than 250 captives taken into Gaza by Hamas. This remains a horrific event. The response of Israeli government has resulted in the deaths of more than 50,000 persons in Gaza. Should not the university be a place where all sides to this ongoing tragedy be offered a hearing? Yes. Isn’t the work of a university to prepare students to dialogue respectfully with others who differ. One wonders why the heavy-handed behaviors of the administration with last minute “Expressive Activity Policy” changes, the denial of space for meetings, the involvement of state police in clearing out protestors, the placing of snipers on the roof of the Memorial Union and the arrest of 45 students and faculty was more a signal that intimidation and reactive control as the chosen option over seeking and providing a place for respectful dissent and dialogue. (#4 Herman B Wells knew the importance of civil dialogue and the place for dissent as he was engaged with students over multiple national and international crises.)

5)  Press freedom. The Indiana Daily Student newspaper, the I.U. Media School and the PBS television and radio stations (WTIU and WFIU) are in jeopardy of financial loss and the claim reporting is “misinformation.” Members of the House of Representatives Subcommittee known as DOGE (Department on Government Efficiency) continued demands to defund all public media. Indiana Lieutenant Governor Micah Beckwith threatened the Indiana Daily Student saying it promoted “WOKE propaganda” and that higher education centers like I.U. are “a complete jokes and indoctrination centers.” (#5 I.U. graduate Ernie Pyle, died covering WWII in the battle for Okinawa. He was a strong advocate for telling “the full story’ that involved features on the often overlooked “little guy.”)

6)  Support for Scientific Research. The tribulation surrounding support for scientific research comes from both the White House and the Indiana Legislature. There have been mass firings at the Center for Disease Control, the National Institute for Health, USAID, and environmental protection programs related to EPA, NOAH and NASA. Such bodies support tens of millions of dollars in research initiatives at I.U. Universities across the nation are threatened, as was Columbia University with the loss of research funds in March 2025. In February of 2025 a town hall meeting “Stand up for Science” was held with more than 150 participants of gathered faculty “Concerned Scientists at I.U.” and students, “Advocates for Science at I.U.”, on the Bloomington campus. The goal is to counter the “broad-side attack on the sciences and on universities as a whole.” One clear anti-science initiative passed by the Indiana House in 2023 was an attack on the work of the Kinsey Institute. In 2023, the Indiana General Assembly passed Act 1001 stating that “Indiana appropriations may not be used to pay for the administration, operation, or programs of the Kinsey Institute.” (#6 Kinsey)

7)  Value of Economic and Environmental Commons.  The massive layoffs underway slowing or shuttering local and international government activities threaten future opportunities for I.U. graduates to find meaningful employment and diminish the current and future research options for faculty. Cuts to USAID, FEMA, EPA, Medicaid, local community health initiatives (WIC – women and infant children), and feeding activities thought efforts like SNAP undermine future economic, environmental and health options for hundreds of millions in our world. I.U. Political Economist Professor Elinor Olstrom, winner of the Noble Prize in 2009, offered an approach to improve governance, economic and environmental practice – it was known as polycentric engagement. Her research demonstrated the value of persons working as part of a Commons – where polycentric engagement valued the diversity within communities and economic regions and offered ways to move to stronger governance that would benefit all. (#7 Olstrom)

Will Campbell, a renowned advocate for civil rights and a man who bridged cultural gaps, humorously called Ken "Bubba" during a farewell service in Nashville. At first glance, the nickname might seem casual or even informal, but as Ken explains, it was a compliment that spoke to his continued connection with his roots and the "Bubbas of the world." This term of endearment reminded Ken that he hadn't lost touch with his upbringing and the working class people who influenced him.

Takeaway Points:

1. Embrace Your Roots: The episode underscores the significance of staying connected to one's background, no matter where life's journey may lead. Ken Carder's pride in being called "Bubba" resonates as a testament to honoring one's history and the people who shape it.
2. Understanding Through Names: A powerful moment arises when Ken Carter recalls an encounter with Will Campbell relating to the KKK. Will's insistence on knowing the names of individuals highlights the importance of seeing people beyond labels, fostering deeper understanding and compassion.
3. Beyond Belief and Actions: Ken Carder reflects that true Christian discipleship is more about being than simply believing or doing. This echoes the podcast's central theme of "be and do," encouraging listeners to embrace their authentic selves in their spiritual journey.
4. The Dance of Love: The conversation beautifully explores the concept of participating in God's triune dance of love. Ken shares how his late wife, Linda, despite her battle with dementia, drew love from him and others, reminding us that being present and open to receiving love is as crucial as giving it.

Tune in to hear more about the profound impacts of empathy, connection, and staying true to oneself in this warm and insightful episode with Bishop Ken Carder. For a deeper dive, listeners are encouraged to explore Ken's books, which offer further reflections on community, identity, and love.

Ken Carder reflects on the theme of "shifting margins," a concept inspired by the work of John Swinton from Scotland's Saint Andrews. This idea, which suggests that Jesus shifts the margins to place the marginalized at the center, has guided Carder's personal and professional journey. From his upbringing in Southern Appalachia to his pastoral roles, Carder's life reflects a continuous broadening of understanding and inclusivity.

Key takeaway points include:

1. Shifting Margins and Expanding Horizons: Carder shares how his life's journey has been a constant evolution of shifting margins, moving from limitations of poverty and rigid beliefs to a more inclusive understanding of belonging and love. This growth is seen not just in personal relationships but in the broadening of theological perspectives, highlighting the ever-expanding nature of understanding God.
2. Institutional Influence and Personal Responsibility: Carder candidly discusses the dual nature of institutions that shape us, noting that while they are necessary, they can also perpetuate societal sins like racism and privilege. He emphasizes the importance of not allowing institutions to bear the burden of our sins, thereby shirking personal responsibility.
3. Moments of Conversion and Recognition: Throughout his narrative, Carder identifies pivotal life moments as conversions, times when his perspectives were realigned. One notable story is of learning the disparity in salaries with fellow pastor Tom Barrington, highlighting systemic racial inequities within the church and awakening Carder to his inherent privilege.
4. Reconciliation through Second Corinthians 5: Carder discusses how the passage "God was in Christ reconciling the world to himself" has been a guiding light in his ministry, reinforcing the call to live into reconciliation in a world marked by division.
5. Symbolic Relics and Personal Heritage: The episode touches on the power of tangible objects, like Carder's grandfather's pocketknife, which serves as a reminder of the wisdom in simplicity and the value retained beyond functional capacities.

As you listen to this heartfelt dialogue, you'll find inspiration in Carder's journey of recognizing and embracing change, weaving a narrative of personal growth towards a more inclusive understanding of humanity and God.

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Jerre Stead shares the roots of his and his wife Mary Jo's philanthropic endeavors, recounting their early days of marriage when they lived modestly yet prioritized giving. Despite limited resources during their undergraduate years, the Steads tithed and contributed $250 annually to their local Methodist church, reflecting their deeply ingrained belief in the joy of giving. Stead emphasizes the importance of devoting time, talent, and treasure, showcasing how their unwavering commitment has left a profound impact across various sectors.

One significant takeaway from the discussion is the notion of "investing" instead of mere giving. Stead approaches his contributions with a strategic mindset, setting measurable goals and engaging actively with the projects he supports. This philosophy ensures that his philanthropic efforts lead to tangible, sustainable outcomes.

The conversation also touches upon the Stead family's focus areas for philanthropy, including education, business, research, and religious leadership. Notably, the Steads have expanded their vision to address urgent issues like Alzheimer's, child obesity, and mental illness, demonstrating their adaptability and forward-thinking approach to philanthropy.

Another key highlight is Stead's advocacy for unity and civil discourse within communities. He emphasizes the importance of bridging differences in a productive manner, promoting a vision of a "red, white, and blue country" that celebrates diversity and unity simultaneously.

Throughout the episode, the guests reflect on the increasing re-engagement with faith communities post-COVID-19, suggesting a revived interest in spiritual connection and communal belonging. This observation underscores the broader theme of interconnectedness and the pivotal role faith communities play in nurturing civic life.

In closing, Philip Amerson appreciates Jerre Stead's unwavering dedication to making the world a better place through thoughtful, intentional giving. He invites listeners to reflect on their own potential to contribute meaningfully to society, drawing inspiration from Stead's journey of generosity and service.

Listeners are encouraged to share this insightful episode, packed with wisdom on philanthropy, leadership, and faith, as it provides valuable lessons on how individual actions can collectively create a profound impact.

Throughout the conversation, Jerre emphasizes the value of setting aggressive yet achievable goals, highlighting the importance of stretching the "rubber band of change" to discover the true potential of a team. By setting these aspirational targets, organizations can push beyond perceived limits and achieve remarkable outcomes.

A key takeaway from Jerre's leadership philosophy is the emphasis on treating every individual with equal dignity and respect. He shares how this principle, rooted in his faith, has been a cornerstone in creating successful and harmonious environments across both for-profit and non-profit organizations. By fostering a culture of 100% trust and ensuring clear, measurable goals, Jerre has consistently empowered his teams to succeed and grow.

Jerre introduces the concept of "Power, Permission, and Protection," which underscores the importance of granting team members the autonomy to pursue their goals while providing the necessary support and safety. This framework enables employees to take ownership of their work, fostering innovation and engagement.

Another significant aspect of Jerre's approach is the regular use of colleague engagement surveys. These anonymous surveys allow employees to share their candid feedback, providing invaluable insights for continuous improvement. Jerre's commitment to reading each comment highlights his dedication to understanding and addressing the needs of his team.

Finally, the episode touches on Jerre's disdain for perks that create divisions within an organization. By eliminating unnecessary perks, Jerre has consistently fostered an egalitarian environment where everyone feels valued and included.

Listeners are encouraged to explore more about Jerre Stead's remarkable journey and leadership philosophy in his published works, where his wisdom as a manager and his grace as a Christian shine through.

Key Takeaways:

1. Setting ambitious, achievable goals is crucial for discovering an organization's true potential.
2. Treating every person with equal dignity and respect fosters a harmonious and effective workplace.
3. Empowering teams through "Power, Permission, and Protection" encourages ownership and innovation.
4. Regular engagement surveys provide essential insights for organizational growth.
5. Eliminating perks that create divisions promotes an inclusive and egalitarian culture.

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Phil begins by addressing the rise of Christian nationalism in Indiana, where figures like Lt. Gov. Micah Beckwith publicly endorse the ideology. He identifies a growing movement that seeks to eliminate funding for diversity, equity, and inclusion based on the notion that this aligns with "what God intended for America."

Phil highlights the works of authors like Andrew Whitehead and Tim Alberta, who provide valuable perspectives on Christian nationalism's roots. He explains that this ideology is not new, referencing historical debates in Britain and introducing the term "antidisestablishmentarianism" to explain the historical push for religious influence in government affairs.

The narrative continues by challenging the misconception that America was founded as a solely Christian nation. Phil underscores the diversity in religious and cultural expressions at the nation's founding, illustrated by references to the first amendment's establishment clause.

Evangelical scholar Kevin DeYoung's analysis is brought into focus, revealing that while there's an understandable hunger for Christian nationalism among some, it fails the "biblical smell test," lacking a true alignment with Christian teachings.

Phil reflects on his own experiences, recalling sermons from the 1960s that warned against a Catholic America under JFK's presidency. He also recounts insights from African American evangelist Tom Skinner, who criticized the whitewashed representation of Jesus prevalent in American churches.

Throughout the episode, Phil stresses the importance of confronting the fraudulent portrayal of Christ promoted by Christian nationalism, highlighting its underlying racism and antisemitism, as seen during events like the 2017 Charlottesville rally.

The episode concludes with a powerful call to action, inspired by British Methodist preacher Donald English's notion of providing "free samples" rather than being mere salesmen of the gospel. Phil urges listeners to embody the true essence of Christianity, which is welcoming and inclusive, fostering a space where diverse voices are valued.

Key Takeaways:

1. Christian nationalism is gaining traction but conflicts with foundational US principles and Christian teachings.
2. Historical contexts, like Britain's religious debates, offer insight into the recurring nature of these ideologies.
3. The US Constitution's establishment clause historically supports religious diversity and freedom.
4. Misinterpretations of America's religious foundations can lead to exclusionary and harmful ideologies.
5. True Christianity should focus on inclusivity and embodying Christ’s teachings, not nationalism.

Dr. Nelms emphasizes understanding history as a crucial first step in making a difference. According to him, comprehending the historical context of present issues enables us to appreciate the complexities of the current world and dispel the belief that we've never faced similar circumstances before. He advocates for taking ownership of solutions, urging listeners to see themselves as part of the answer to societal problems rather than simply discussing them.

A key takeaway from Dr. Nelms is the concept of "we are they," highlighting the necessity for individuals to stop waiting for others to effect change and instead take personal responsibility. Whether through small or significant actions, he encourages listeners to be authentic and proactive in their efforts. Phil echoes this sentiment by sharing his involvement with addressing homelessness in his community, demonstrating the impact of taking tangible steps.

Phil and Charlie discuss the transformative power of action over thought, referencing Phil's friend Parker Palmer’s idea that acting can lead to new ways of thinking. Dr. Nelms reflects on the challenges of stepping out of comfort zones to engage meaningfully with issues like homelessness, underscoring how such interactions can enrich the soul and foster gratitude for personal circumstances.

Another highlight of the episode is Dr. Nelms' recent heartwarming experience at Lincoln University, where he witnessed a significant gift announcement from the Lily Endowment to the Thurgood Marshall College Fund. This visit served as a powerful reminder of historical achievements in the face of adversity and the ongoing importance of supporting educational institutions.

Five Takeaways:

1. Understanding history is vital for recognizing and addressing today’s challenges.
2. Take personal responsibility for contributing to solutions instead of relying on others.
3. Engage in actions, big or small, as they can reshape our perspectives and drive change.
4. Step out of comfort zones to connect with societal issues, fostering personal growth and gratitude.
5. Honoring and supporting educational institutions is crucial for empowering future generations.

This inspiring conversation encourages listeners to reflect deeply on their roles in the world and to actively participate in creating a better, more informed, and empathetic society.

Here are three key takeaways from the episode:

1. The Power of Place and Memory: Philip Amerson recounts a heartwarming experience crossing the Ohio River, which triggers memories of learning life-changing lessons at Scribner Park, particularly the story of the Good Samaritan shared by Miss Stella Newhouse. This evocation emphasizes the importance of places and experiences that shape our understanding of kindness and community. Dr. Nelms builds on this idea, encouraging listeners to reflect on personal landmarks and the lessons of compassion and service ingrained in those spaces.
2. Education as the Engine of Opportunity: Dr. Nelms passionately speaks about the pivotal role of education as a means of transformation and progress, especially for those not born into privilege. Growing up in the Arkansas Delta, his education opened doors, allowing him to impact countless lives positively. He critiques recent challenges to DEI (Diversity, Equity, Inclusion) initiatives, stressing the importance of remaining committed to equity beyond structural constructs. Dr. Nelms calls for continued investment in education across all levels (P-16) to foster social mobility, economic opportunity, and a stronger democracy.
3. Perseverance Through Historical Context: One of Dr. Nelms’ profound messages is to avoid discouragement amid societal setbacks, instead drawing strength from the long history of struggle and progress dating back to 1619. By recounting personal anecdotes, including the impactful influence of his mother, Dr. Nelms underscores the resilience needed to face today's challenges. His narrative serves as a reminder that history provides essential lessons for navigating contemporary issues and sustaining hope.

Join us on this journey of encouragement, empowerment, and belonging as we weave connections among people and promote a flourishing society. To learn more and engage with our community, visit belongingexchange.org. Be inspired to "Be" and "Do" within your community today.

1. Embracing Local Resources and Gifts

Philip and Mike discovered the abundant talents and resources already present in their neighborhood. From health care workers and teachers to gardeners and entrepreneurs, the church learned to recognize and celebrate the gifts within their community. This shift from a needs-based to an asset-based approach allowed them to engage more deeply and meaningfully with their neighbors .

2. Reimagining Community Support and Engagement

A significant turning point was the transformation of the traditional charity model. Rather than distributing pre-selected items to people queuing in the cold, the ministry developed more inclusive and dignified ways of support. Initiatives like the Jubilee Christmas Store enabled families to choose gifts for their loved ones, fostering a community-centric environment where recipients were treated with respect and given agency (15:56 - 18:28).

3. Building Deep, Sustainable Relationships

A key theme in the discussion was the importance of building genuine relationships within the community. Through interactions and collaborative efforts, the church not only provided material support but also cultivated deep, sustainable relationships. This shift emphasized long-term well-being and mutual growth, moving away from merely transactional engagements .

This episode is a profound reminder of the power inherent in community engagement that focuses on recognizing and uplifting the existing strengths and gifts within a neighborhood. Tune in to gain more insights from Mike and Philip's transformative journey in ministry.

First United Methodist Church-Boulder, Colorado

The discussion begins with a nostalgic look back at the concept of “advocates of the word”—a practice inspired by Philip's experiences with liberation theologians in Latin America. These local leaders, originally known as “delegates of the word,” played a pivotal role in their communities by leading Bible studies and Eucharistic celebrations. Adapting this idea upon his return to the United States, Philip envisioned a similar model that he called "advocates of the word."

Michael recalls his time in Evansville, Indiana, where he served in a low-income neighborhood populated by vibrant individuals who would become his greatest teachers. One poignant story he shares is of a senior citizen who welcomed him with government surplus cheese and crackers. This interaction, among many others, underscored the importance of mutual learning and genuine human connection in ministry.

Throughout the episode, Michael and Philip address the broader implications of ministry work, challenging the traditional top-down approach often associated with church leadership. They argue that instead of viewing ministry as something done "to" the community, it should be about recognizing and amplifying the ways God is already at work among the people. This paradigm shift encourages ministers to listen actively and seek wisdom from those they serve.

Five Takeaways:

1. Grassroots Ministry: The concept of “advocates of the word” promotes a bottom-up approach to ministry, empowering laypeople to take active roles in spiritual leadership and community engagement.
2. Learning from the Community: Michael’s experiences in Evansville highlight the invaluable lessons that can be learned by immersing oneself in the community. Genuine connection and humility can lead to profound teaching moments and mutual growth.
3. Challenging Traditional Hierarchies: Both Michael and Philip emphasize that effective ministry involves listening to and valuing the insights of the community, rather than imposing top-down directives.
4. Unexpected Places for Faith: The episode includes anecdotes of finding faith and conducting Bible studies in unconventional places, such as bars and strip clubs, demonstrating that spiritual conversations can happen anywhere.
5. Transformative Encounters: Personal stories about interactions with community members reveal the transformative power of simply being present, kind, and open to learning from those we meet.

As the episode concludes, Philip hints at future discussions focused on Michael’s ministry in Indianapolis, South Bend, and beyond, promising more enriching stories and insights.

Tune in to "To Be and Do" for an inspiring exploration of how true ministry transcends the walls of the church and finds its home in the hearts of the community.

First United Methodist Church-Boulder, Colorado

The podcast takes an amusing turn when Philip mentions receiving a T-shirt from Michael that says, "Always be yourself unless you can be a penguin, then always be a penguin." This whimsical statement serves as a prelude to a deeper conversation about the importance of embracing life’s absurdities with gentleness, whimsy, and joy—a philosophy that has evidently underpinned their enduring friendship.

Here are some key takeaways from this episode:

1. Embrace Whimsy in Life: Philip and Michael’s discussion about the penguin T-shirt underscores an important message: life can be absurd and unpredictable, and it’s crucial to handle it with a sense of humor and lightheartedness. This approach not only makes challenges more manageable but also enriches our relationships.
2. The Power of Imagination in Ministry: Michael’s journey from a seminary student to a lead pastor is filled with creative and imaginative approaches to ministry. His story about wanting to serve at Patchwork Central in Evansville, Indiana, highlights how thinking outside the box can redefine religious and community engagement.
3. Learning from Engagements Outside Traditional Church Settings: The stories of Michael’s early ministry experiences, such as his encounter with the Trimble study group, offer invaluable lessons. These interactions, often with individuals not traditionally associated with church, provided profound insights into what it means to serve and lead—a lesson emphasizing the importance of stepping outside conventional boundaries.
4. Importance of Lifelong Friendships and Mentorships: The episode beautifully illustrates how lifelong friendships, like that between Philip and Michael, and mentorships can provide both personal and professional growth. Their shared history and mutual respect highlight the importance of having a support system that understands and challenges you.
5. Engaging with the Community: Michael’s anecdote about a woman named Stella and her candidacy for precinct chairperson reveals the deep connections between ministry and community activism. It stresses the need for religious leaders to be actively engaged within their communities, understanding and supporting local challenges and aspirations.

Philip closes the episode with a call to listeners for guest suggestions, promising more enriching conversations in future episodes. This initial episode with Michael Mather sets a reflective yet dynamic tone, offering listeners not just encouragement but practical insights into the complexities and joys of ministry and friendship.

Stay tuned for more episodes where Philip and Michael dive deeper into these themes, exploring the romance of parish ministry and much more.

First United Methodist Church-Boulder, Colorado

In this thought-provoking episode of "To Be Do," join Phil Amerson, as he delves into the profound topic of embracing and understanding our ignorance. Phil, with his extensive experience as a pastor and community leader, shares insights that resonate deeply with the essence of human connection and the importance of acknowledging our limitations.

The episode begins with Phil recalling past podcast episodes, specifically mentioning his conversation with Jonathan Massimi on asset-based community development, underscoring the broad array of enlightening discussions the podcast aims to offer. He extends an invitation to listeners to suggest future guests, emphasizing the value of continuous learning and diverse perspectives.

Phil takes listeners on a journey through his personal experiences, illustrating that an essential aspect of life is coming to terms with one's ignorance. He stresses that the more one learns, the more one realizes how much there is yet to know. This realization is not a mark of failure but a cornerstone of growth and humility. Phil's reflections are peppered with poignant cultural anecdotes from Korea and South Africa, where greetings such as "Have you eaten today?" and "I see you" highlight the depth of empathy and understanding in societies that have faced significant hardships.

Drawing from his years as a pastor, Phil shares heartfelt stories that reveal the unseen struggles of individuals he has met, underscoring the importance of truly seeing and listening to people. His insights into these personal encounters emphasize the need for patience and the willingness to let others reveal their stories in their own time.

Phil also recounts his leadership of a pastoral program that paired apprentice pastors with experienced mentors. He discovered that those who had served their communities with grace for eight or more years had a profound understanding of their own limitations and brokenness. This "brokenness," Phil suggests, is a testament to their wisdom and capacity for empathy.

Takeaway Points:

1. Embrace Ignorance
2. : Acknowledging what we don't know is essential for personal growth and understanding the struggles of others.
3. Cultural Sensitivity
4. : Simple greetings can carry profound significance, reflecting a society's history and collective experiences.
5. Deep Listening
6. : Truly seeing and listening to others requires patience and a willingness to understand their unspoken challenges.
7. Value of Experience
8. : Wisdom often comes from years of service and the acknowledgment of one's brokenness and limitations.
9. Continuous Learning
10. : Engaging with diverse perspectives and seeking new knowledge keeps us humble and open-minded.

Join us as Phil Amerson inspires us to celebrate and acknowledge our ignorance as a crucial step towards deeper human connection and understanding.

In this heartwarming and inspirational episode of "To Be Do," host Philip Amerson takes us on a journey that transcends time and geography, recounting his extraordinary 50-year friendship with Clarence Smart. Titled "A Legacy of Friendship and Determination," this episode serves as a testament to the enduring power of human connection, resilience, and the transformative potential of education.

Philip begins by recalling a delightful surprise phone call from Clarence, an old friend he met in the Republic of Panama in the late 1960s. Clarence was working as a janitor at the Methodist School, Instituto Panamericano, living in a small cubby space beneath the swimming pool's machinery. The serendipitous encounter led to a lifelong bond. Philip shares how Clarence, born on Christmas Day in 1945, was just one week older than him. Despite limited educational opportunities in his hometown of Bocas, Clarence was deeply committed to furthering his education. Remarkably, at age 11 or 12, Clarence trekked over 50 miles across the Panamanian mountains to the city of David, seeking a chance to pursue high school.

Clarence's determination paid off when he found hospitality and education at a student home run by Methodist missionaries,. This episode exquisitely captures Clarence's unyielding spirit and highlights the pivotal moment when Philip offered to help him finish his university education in the United States. Clarence's response to Philip's well-meaning but slightly paternalistic request for a promise to return to Panama reveals his deep sense of autonomy and agency.

Key Takeaway Points:

1. The Power of Determination: Clarence's story exemplifies the lengths to which one can go to pursue education and self-improvement. From walking miles across mountains to the intention to live in a refrigerator box, his relentless pursuit is awe-inspiring.
2. Importance of Supportive Networks: The role of Ken and Madia Darg, the missionaries who provided Clarence with shelter and schooling, underscores the impact of supportive communities in one's journey toward achieving dreams.
3. Respecting Individual Agency: Philip’s reflection on his interaction with Clarence sheds light on the importance of respecting others' autonomy and choices. Clarence’s insistence on taking charge of his own future became a profound learning moment for Philip.
4. Ripple Effects of Education and Giving: Clarence not only achieved his academic and professional goals but also paid it forward by helping more than a dozen of his nieces and nephews in Panama attend university. This illustrates how the benefits of education can extend beyond the individual to impact entire communities.
5. Value of Long-term Friendships: The episode celebrates the enduring friendship between Philip and Clarence, filled with laughter, mutual respect, and lifelong learning. It reminds listeners of the joy and wisdom that comes from deep, long-lasting relationships.

Philip leaves listeners with a heartfelt message to be open to new connections, embrace the gifts within others, and find ways to contribute positively to the lives around them. This moving episode is a beautiful blend of narrative storytelling and powerful life lessons, sure to leave you feeling motivated and encouraged.

Three Key Takeaways:

1. The Eucharist as a Full-Body Experience: Jonathan Massimi passionately discusses the Eucharist, emphasizing it as an immersive, full-body spiritual practice. He explains how participating in the Eucharist shapes our entire being—mind, body, soul, and spirit. This sacred ritual provides us with a narrative that aligns deeply with the principles of asset-based community development. By educating our palates and reshaping our perspectives, the Eucharist allows us to see God's abundance in everyday life, transforming our language from one of scarcity and problems to a language that recognizes and celebrates the gifts and talents within our communities.
2. Surprise and Discovery in ABCD: Jonathan shares insightful anecdotes about the surprises and discoveries inherent to asset-based community development. He recalls an inspiring relationship with a man who was often labeled as troublesome by various churches. Through trust and relationship-building, Jonathan discovered the man's invaluable gifts and perspectives. This story illustrates how peeling back societal labels can reveal the true value and potential within individuals, demonstrating the profound impact of seeing people as bearers of gifts rather than problems to be fixed.
3. Viewing Ourselves as Guests, Not Givers: Both Philip and Jonathan explore the transformative concept of regarding ourselves as guests rather than powerful givers or caregivers in the communities we engage with. Jonathan highlights the theological perspective of being a guest, drawing parallels from the life of Christ who was a guest at many tables and ultimately prepares a place for us as guests in the Father's house. This perspective fosters a sense of humility and receptivity, encouraging us to enter communal spaces with a mindset of learning and receiving. This shift in perspective can lead to richer, more authentic interactions and a deeper appreciation for the gifts present in others.

Tune into this episode for a fresh, inspirational perspective on faith, community, and the importance of interdependence in spiritual and communal practices. Jonathan Massimi’s insights will provoke thoughtful reflection and encourage a more inclusive and empowering approach to community engagement.

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Jonathan Massimi

hello@civicbloom.ca

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Episode Title: To Be Do From the Belonging Exchange

Host: Philip Amerson

Guest: Jonathan Massimi (he/him), Anglican Priest from Kitchener, Ontario

In this thought-provoking episode of To Be and Do, host Philip Amerson engages in a deep and reflective conversation with Jonathan Massimi about linking faith with work, the importance of recognizing the stranger, and the complexities of offering help. Their dialogue touches on themes of belonging, mutual relationships, and the unintended consequences of well-meaning actions. Below are three key takeaways from their enriching discussion:

1. The Importance of Knowing the Stranger:

One of the core insights shared by Jonathan centers on the notion of "stranger danger" instilled in children from a very young age. This societal norm often encourages fear and avoidance of the unknown. Jonathan challenges this framework by highlighting the Christian tradition, which teaches that the stranger could be a divine messenger. The conversation underscores the potential richness and new perspectives that can emerge from interacting with those we consider "different." In practice, this means moving beyond stereotypes and fostering genuine relationships with people from diverse backgrounds.

2. Reciprocity Over Charity:

Philip and Jonathan delve into the problematic nature of one-sided charitable actions, which can create dependency and reinforce power imbalances. They critically examine common church activities, like distributing backpacks filled with school supplies, that often fail to establish real relationships. Jonathan argues for a reciprocal model of engagement where giving and receiving are mutual acts. He stresses the importance of truly knowing the names, stories, and needs of individuals rather than merely addressing perceived problems through unilateral aid.

3. Building a Sense of Belonging:

The discussion introduces the concept of a "belonging Apgar" to assess community integration. True belonging, according to Jonathan, involves more than just physical presence; it requires that individuals know each other’s names, exchange gifts, and achieve a recognized social standing where they are missed when absent. This framework can be used by churches and organizations to evaluate and improve their engagement strategies, ensuring that actions taken foster a genuine sense of community and connection rather than just providing temporary solutions.

Join us for an episode filled with profound insights and practical wisdom, challenging listeners to rethink how they interact with and support their communities deeply and meaningfully.

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In this compelling episode of Be and Do from the Belonging Exchange, host Philip Amerson welcomes Jonathan Massimi, the dynamic director of Civic Bloom, onto the show. Together, they delve into how community organizing can be harmoniously blended with spirituality and principles of faith, creating vibrant and connected communities. From Jonathan’s unique background as an Italian Anglican priest in Mennonite country to his deep relationship with the late community organizer John McKnight, this episode is filled with profound insights and transformative ideas.

Key Takeaways:

1. The Power of Asset-Based Community Development (ABCD): Jonathan Massimi explains the concept of Asset-Based Community Development (ABCD), which focuses on leveraging individual and community assets to drive positive change. Jonathan delves into how ABCD can be more impactful than traditional needs-based models that often emphasize scarcity and deficits. Through his work with Civic Bloom, he illustrates real-world examples of how communities can flourish when they recognize and build upon their inherent strengths and resources. This empowers individuals and organizations alike, creating a ripple effect of abundance and resilience.
2. Interweaving Faith and Community Practices: As an Anglican priest, Jonathan offers a unique perspective on how faith practices and community engagement can be interwoven. He describes using liturgy, particularly the Eucharist, as a formative practice that can align with ABCD principles. Jonathan elaborates on the Eucharistic themes of reciprocity and abundance, highlighting how the act of sharing bread and wine can symbolize the sharing of community gifts and resources. This spiritual practice not only nurtures personal faith but also fosters a broader sense of community belonging and mutual support.
3. Mentorship and Learning from John McKnight: The episode pays tribute to the late John McKnight, a renowned community organizer whose work has profoundly influenced Jonathan. Jonathan recounts his personal journey and mentorship under McKnight, sharing how McKnight’s philosophy and methodologies shaped his own approach to community development. From their regular discussions to McKnight's curiosity-driven mentorship style, listeners get a glimpse into the foundational principles that continue to inspire and guide Jonathan's mission. This segment underscores the importance of mentorship, ongoing learning, and connecting with like-minded individuals in the pursuit of community well-being.

Join us for this enlightening conversation as we explore how aligning belief with action can lead to transformative community engagement. Tune in to To Be and Do and discover how relationships and interdependence are key to nurturing resilient and thriving communities.

Listen to the full episode now and be inspired to take action in your own community!

Jonathan Massimi

hello@civicbloom.ca

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1. The Healing Power of Laughter: Phil Amerson shares his extensive experience of being present in hospital rooms, observing the incredible effect of laughter even in the face of illness and death. He vividly recounts how laughter has the power to uplift spirits, bring comfort, and foster connection among individuals during life's most challenging moments. This exploration of laughter as "liquid sunshine" reveals its profound ability to heal emotional wounds and bridge gaps between people.

2. The Exercise - Opening to Joy: The heart of this episode is an innovative exercise designed by Phil called "Opening to Joy." This exercise involves engaging with a series of quotes about laughter and joy, and then reflecting on these quotes in a meaningful way. Participants are encouraged to select a favorite quote, write a prayer based on it, and incorporate this prayer into their daily routines, both morning and night. Phil offers several thought-provoking quotes, such as, "Laughter is hope's last weapon" by Harvey Cox and, "Rest and laughter are the most spiritual and subversive acts of all" by Anne Lamott. By integrating these reflections into daily life, listeners can cultivate a deeper sense of joy and connection.

3. Laughter and Faith: A significant theme in this episode is the intersection of laughter, faith, and personal growth. Phil emphasizes that people of faith can deliberately choose to use laughter as a tool for wholeness and health. He discusses the importance of finding joy in everyday moments and recognizing that humor can be a divine gift that helps us navigate life's complexities. Drawing from various anecdotes and quotes, Phil illustrates how joy and laughter can enhance our understanding of God, deepen our relationships with others, and promote overall well-being.

Tune in to this heartwarming episode to explore how joy and laughter can transform your life and faith. Don’t forget to sign up for a copy of the "Opening to Joy" exercise to embark on your own journey of laughter and healing. Join us next time for more enriching conversations on the Belonging Exchange podcast with Phil Amerson.

Guest Speakers:

• Dr. Dakeer Abdullah
• Shawna Murphy
• Tom True
• Jan True
• Mary Dickin
• Mark Dickin
• Sherry Clay
• Mary Ann Moman
• Linda Allen
• Brandon Allen

Host: Rev. Dr. Brad Miller

In this enriching episode of "To Be Encouraged," we dive into the power of community building, shared experiences, and fostering connections across diverse backgrounds. Recorded at the Trifling Picnic, an event designed to bring individuals together, our guests highlight the underlying importance of harmony, belonging, and mutual support.

Key Takeaways:

1. The Value of Diverse Perspectives: Dr. Dakeer Abdullah emphasizes the importance of bringing together individuals from various ethnic, socio-economic, and spiritual backgrounds. He argues that such gatherings enable people to share unique viewpoints, fostering a more harmonious society. As he points out, ignorance often stems from a lack of interaction with diverse people, making events like the Trifling Picnic essential for breaking down these barriers and promoting understanding.
2. Overcoming Willful Blindness: Shawna Murphy introduces the term "willful blindness" to describe how people often overlook the talents and contributions of those around them. She poignantly discusses the courage it takes to acknowledge these oversights and the transformative potential of removing such 'scales'. Shawna believes that creating connections can combat loneliness—an epidemic in today's society—and that events like the Trifling Picnic are vital for initiating these valuable, transformative interactions.
3. Community and Mutual Support: Guests like Jan and Tom True, and Linda Allen highlight how events that promote belonging and exchange can lead to meaningful collaborations and friendships. Tom True discusses how a bottom-up approach to community building, as opposed to a top-down one, is more effective in uncovering hidden talents and fostering genuine connections. Linda Allen, a recipient of communal support through Habitat for Humanity, underscores the importance of giving back to the community, creating a cycle of reciprocity that sustains community development.

Throughout the episode, Rev. Dr. Brad Miller expertly guides these conversations, drawing connections between personal stories and broader social themes. The episode illustrates how grassroots efforts in community building can lead to educational opportunities, enhanced social services, and an overall improvement in the quality of life for everyone involved.

Join us as we explore these profound insights and discover how to bring more harmony, belonging, and mutual support into your own community. Don't forget to connect with us on social media and share your thoughts and experiences with building community in your area.

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In this second installment of our three-part series introducing the enriching work of the Belonging Exchange, we delve into the conversations and experiences from the Trifling Picnic held in Bloomington, Indiana. Hosted by Phil and Elaine Amerson. This episode (02) features an illuminating discussion with an eclectic array of guests.

**Event Overview:**

The Trifling Picnic, organized by Phil and Elaine Amerson, brought together individuals from vastly diverse backgrounds and faith-based communities for an afternoon of genuine fellowship and interaction. The event's main focus was to create an environment where people could connect, share their stories, and exchange ideas to foster a sense of community and collective growth. The Belonging Exchange aspires to make everyone feel that they belong and can contribute meaningfully to society.

**Key Takeaways:**

1. **Value of Diverse Communities:**

  The gathering showcased beautifully how bringing together people from different walks of life can lead to meaningful conversations and collaborations. A Bloomington city council member emphasized that diversity, coupled with fearlessness, is crucial for community progress. By sharing various perspectives, participants gained a deeper understanding of communal problems and the potential for collective action.

2. **Music as a Unifying Force:**

  Vince Matthew graced the event with his musical compositions, embodying the spirit of collaboration and harmony. Music, in this context, served as a powerful medium to symbolize and foster unity among the diverse attendees.

3. **Intentional Community Building:**

  The conversations stressed the importance of building intentional communities to address pressing issues like food deserts in urban settings. By aligning love and action, communities can overcome fear and nurture a harmonious environment where everyone thrives.

4. **Importance of Individual Gifts:**

  The guests highlighted how every individual has unique talents and perspectives that can contribute to the greater good. Breaking out of segregated communities to form creative and inclusive networks was discussed as a vital step towards societal betterment. Many guests touched on the need for understanding and leveraging different perspectives to solve community problems effectively.

5. **Impact on Family and City Dynamics:**

  The conversations revealed how events like the Trifling Picnic significantly impact family dynamics and the community at large. The inclusion of missionaries, political candidates, council persons, and long-term residents of Bloomington underscored the multifaceted approach needed to promote holistic community welfare.

**Conclusion:**

The episode is a heartfelt reminder of the power of human connection and the positive ripple effect such gatherings can have on the community. 

listeners are invited explore the work of the Belonging Exchange via their website.

https://belongingexchange.org/

This was episode two of a three part limited series “Belonging Exchange Conversations”

Part 01 was an introduction to the vision that Phil and Elaine Amerson have for the the Belonging Exchange

Please tune into Ep.03 the final part of this limited series as Belonging Exchange Conversations will conclude with interviews with an Indiana University Professor and a Habitat for Humanity Home recipient among others.

In this captivating trailer episode of the Belonging Exchange podcast, your host Philip Amerson introduces listeners to a transformative journey through everyday life, challenging the conventional perspectives of interaction and communication. Philip delves into the importance of shifting viewpoints to foster a sense of community and shared understanding. This episode sets the stage for the meaningful conversations and enlightening insights that future episodes promise. Join Phil as he invites listeners to see the world in new ways that emphasize interdependence, relational thinking, and shared citizenship.

Three Key Takeaways:

1. Shifting from Host to Guest in Conversations: Philip Amerson presents a compelling perspective that can revolutionize our everyday interactions. Instead of approaching conversations as the dominant figure or 'host', Phil suggests that we consider ourselves as 'guests' in every interaction. This mindset encourages us to truly listen and engage with others from their point of view, fostering deeper connections and understanding. Whether we're chatting with acquaintances in the grocery store or engaging in discussions at social events, viewing the conversation from the other person’s perspective can enrich and transform our interactions.
2. Embracing Interdependence Alongside Independence: One of the core messages Philip emphasizes is the need to balance independence with interdependence. While personal independence is valuable, recognizing our interconnectedness with others can lead to a more supportive and cohesive community. Phil advocates for a cultural shift where we appreciate and cultivate relationships that celebrate both self-sufficiency and mutual support. This balance can enhance our societal framework, making us more resilient and compassionate as a collective.
3. Moving from Rational to Relational Thinking: In a world that often prioritizes rationality and logic, Phil underscores the significance of relational thinking, which harmonizes the mind and heart. He encourages us to move beyond solely intellectual engagements and incorporate empathy, compassion, and emotional intelligence into our interactions. By blending rational thought with heartfelt understanding, we create more meaningful and authentic connections. This approach also redefines how we view caring for others—not as clients or objects, but as fellow citizens sharing a common bond.

Conclusion: Philip Amerson’s introductory episode of the Belonging Exchange podcast is a call to action for listeners to fundamentally change how they engage in their daily interactions. By adopting a guest’s perspective, striving for interdependence, and incorporating relational thinking, listeners are invited to join Philip on this transformative journey. This podcast promises to be a valuable resource for anyone looking to deepen their understanding of human connections and foster a community built on mutual respect and empathy.

Join Us: Don’t miss out on this enlightening adventure. Subscribe to the Belonging Exchange podcast and be part of the conversation that aims to reshape how we see and relate to the world around us.