This episode explores how communities can move beyond dependence on institutions and embrace interdependence to create lasting safety and well-being. Mike, Carol, and Kristin discuss strategies rooted in John McKnight’s asset-based community development model, highlighting the importance of cultivating relationships, building trust, and amplifying neighborhood gifts. Together, they unpack how focusing on goodness, social capital, and shared responsibility transforms both neighborhoods and public safety culture.

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

(03:37) Mike honors John McKnight’s legacy and explains his conviction that neighborhoods themselves can heal when supported with purpose.

(07:11) The importance of listening and understanding when engaging diverse community perspectives.

(09:18) Conversations with city managers and police chiefs about shifting effectiveness metrics from arrests to community self-reliance.

(14:42) Helping neighbors recognize their own gifts, skills, and talents.

(19:57) How initial resistance and frustration from community members can evolve into shared responsibility.

(22:55) Connecting neuroscience to policing

(28:31) How block parties, barbecues, and potlucks build belonging in neighborhoods.

(35:36) Why community engagement and goodness naturally crowd out crime and harmful behaviors.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local...]]>How can communities move from dependence on institutions to interdependence with one another?

This episode explores how communities can move beyond dependence on institutions and embrace interdependence to create lasting safety and well-being. Mike, Carol, and Kristin discuss strategies rooted in John McKnight’s asset-based community development model, highlighting the importance of cultivating relationships, building trust, and amplifying neighborhood gifts. Together, they unpack how focusing on goodness, social capital, and shared responsibility transforms both neighborhoods and public safety culture.

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

(03:37) Mike honors John McKnight’s legacy and explains his conviction that neighborhoods themselves can heal when supported with purpose.

(07:11) The importance of listening and understanding when engaging diverse community perspectives.

(09:18) Conversations with city managers and police chiefs about shifting effectiveness metrics from arrests to community self-reliance.

(14:42) Helping neighbors recognize their own gifts, skills, and talents.

(19:57) How initial resistance and frustration from community members can evolve into shared responsibility.

(22:55) Connecting neuroscience to policing

(28:31) How block parties, barbecues, and potlucks build belonging in neighborhoods.

(35:36) Why community engagement and goodness naturally crowd out crime and harmful behaviors.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx 

Subscribe via Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0abIoZWKrsleU8dYZiMVrc 

Subscribe via YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectPACT-org 

This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co/ 

This episode explores how neighborhoods can move from dependence on police and government toward interdependent, self-reliant models of community safety. Mike, Carol, and Kristin discuss the stewardship mindset, the importance of partnership, and the collective will that transforms neighborhoods. Through lessons from thought leaders and reflections on disasters, the hosts emphasize that lasting safety comes when communities take ownership of their future.

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

(01:00) Redefining Community Safety

* The idea of neighborhoods owning their own safety.

* The shift from patriarchal models of policing to true partnerships with communities.

(10:15) Neighborhoods

* How different neighborhoods evolve at different paces toward self-reliance.

(23:05) From Dependence to Partnership

* Joint accountability, the dangers of unhealthy dependence, and the limits of policing.

(30:01) Disasters and Neighborhood Resilience

* Carol recalls her neighborhood’s experience during a devastating flood and the role of the National Guard.

(41:00) Shared Responsibility

* How collaboration, nurturing, and consistency are the puzzle pieces of lasting safety.

Resources: 

* Abundant Community by Peter Block and John McKnight. 

* Safety in Our Hands by Peter Block and Mike Butler.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect...]]>What does it look like to embrace citizenship by taking responsibility for safety, instead of leaving it to others?

This episode explores how neighborhoods can move from dependence on police and government toward interdependent, self-reliant models of community safety. Mike, Carol, and Kristin discuss the stewardship mindset, the importance of partnership, and the collective will that transforms neighborhoods. Through lessons from thought leaders and reflections on disasters, the hosts emphasize that lasting safety comes when communities take ownership of their future.

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

(01:00) Redefining Community Safety

* The idea of neighborhoods owning their own safety.

* The shift from patriarchal models of policing to true partnerships with communities.

(10:15) Neighborhoods

* How different neighborhoods evolve at different paces toward self-reliance.

(23:05) From Dependence to Partnership

* Joint accountability, the dangers of unhealthy dependence, and the limits of policing.

(30:01) Disasters and Neighborhood Resilience

* Carol recalls her neighborhood’s experience during a devastating flood and the role of the National Guard.

(41:00) Shared Responsibility

* How collaboration, nurturing, and consistency are the puzzle pieces of lasting safety.

Resources: 

* Abundant Community by Peter Block and John McKnight. 

* Safety in Our Hands by Peter Block and Mike Butler.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx 

Subscribe via Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4h8puWm 

Subscribe via YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectPACT-org 

This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co/ 

This episode continues to explore alternatives to the traditional criminal justice system and how communities can take a leading role in creating safety. Mike, Carol, and Kristin discuss programs that transformed neighborhoods, addressed mental health and substance use, and reframed domestic violence as a health issue. 

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

03:20 – Vision for Change

* How deep listening shaped Mike’s leadership in Longmont, moving away from command-and-control policing.

11:59 – Community Conversations 

* Inviting neighborhoods to direct safety efforts. 

29:09 – Co-Responder Models 

* Addressing mental health, substance abuse, and homelessness.

41:22 – Trauma and Healing

* How trauma multiplies within the justice system and how community-wide involvement reduces domestic violence lethality.

47:37 – Building Sustainable Change

* How Longmont reduced gangs and violent crime.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx 

Subscribe via Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4h8puWm 

Subscribe via YouTube: How can neighborhoods take ownership of their safety?

This episode continues to explore alternatives to the traditional criminal justice system and how communities can take a leading role in creating safety. Mike, Carol, and Kristin discuss programs that transformed neighborhoods, addressed mental health and substance use, and reframed domestic violence as a health issue. 

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

03:20 – Vision for Change

* How deep listening shaped Mike’s leadership in Longmont, moving away from command-and-control policing.

11:59 – Community Conversations 

* Inviting neighborhoods to direct safety efforts. 

29:09 – Co-Responder Models 

* Addressing mental health, substance abuse, and homelessness.

41:22 – Trauma and Healing

* How trauma multiplies within the justice system and how community-wide involvement reduces domestic violence lethality.

47:37 – Building Sustainable Change

* How Longmont reduced gangs and violent crime.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx 

Subscribe via Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4h8puWm 

Subscribe via YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectPACT-org 

This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co/

In this episode, we continue to explore what we discussed in the previous episode—what it means for a police department to go beyond arrests and citations. Chief Butler reflects on his time in Longmont, Colorado, describing how acknowledging pain, listening deeply, and experimenting with restorative justice transformed both the police department and the community. Together, we highlight how partnerships, shared accountability, and social connections create a safer and more connected future.

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

03:20 – Acknowledging the Past

* Mike recalls the challenges he faced in Longmont after a tragic incident.

* The importance of recognizing trauma and beginning with deep listening.

11:46 – Listening and Building Trust

* How vulnerability and active listening laid the groundwork for new community relationships.

* How creating safe spaces for dialogue builds trust internally and externally.

* Mike describes holding multiple listening sessions with staff and the community to move conversations from pain toward the future.

21:00 – Planting Seeds of Change

* Connecting the concept of “fertile soil” to the cultural shift away from black-and-white policing.

25:18 – Alternatives to Enforcement

* Restorative justice and how Longmont’s efforts reduced recidivism and improved victim satisfaction.

32:32 – Measuring Success Differently

* Three guiding questions for public safety: community safety, reducing recidivism, and healing victims.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how...]]>Are the police responsible for fixing the social issues of our communities?

In this episode, we continue to explore what we discussed in the previous episode—what it means for a police department to go beyond arrests and citations. Chief Butler reflects on his time in Longmont, Colorado, describing how acknowledging pain, listening deeply, and experimenting with restorative justice transformed both the police department and the community. Together, we highlight how partnerships, shared accountability, and social connections create a safer and more connected future.

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

03:20 – Acknowledging the Past

* Mike recalls the challenges he faced in Longmont after a tragic incident.

* The importance of recognizing trauma and beginning with deep listening.

11:46 – Listening and Building Trust

* How vulnerability and active listening laid the groundwork for new community relationships.

* How creating safe spaces for dialogue builds trust internally and externally.

* Mike describes holding multiple listening sessions with staff and the community to move conversations from pain toward the future.

21:00 – Planting Seeds of Change

* Connecting the concept of “fertile soil” to the cultural shift away from black-and-white policing.

25:18 – Alternatives to Enforcement

* Restorative justice and how Longmont’s efforts reduced recidivism and improved victim satisfaction.

32:32 – Measuring Success Differently

* Three guiding questions for public safety: community safety, reducing recidivism, and healing victims.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx 

Subscribe via Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4h8puWm 

Subscribe via YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectPACT-org 

This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co/

In this episode, Mike, Carol, and Kristin challenge the overreliance on arrests and citations as default responses to complex social and health issues. They explore how the criminal justice system’s one-size-fits-all model perpetuates cycles of harm for both offenders and victims. They also highlight the need for upstream solutions, deeper community partnerships, and practical alternatives that prioritize safety and belonging.

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

(0:19) Overrelying on the Criminal Justice System

* How arrests and citations have become default tools for addressing social and health issues.

* Why some elected officials perpetuate the idea that laws and penalties can “fix” complex problems, despite high recidivism rates.

(8:29) Building Trust and Compassion

* Mutual trust, compassion, and resource development are foundations for healthier police-community relationships.

(15:57) Disentangling Police From the Criminal Justice “Hip”

* Challenging police departments to develop alternatives beyond arrests, urging connection with the “heart of the community.”

(22:30) Lack of Options and Systemic Bottlenecks

* Calls for emotional intelligence and active listening training to help officers discern better responses.

* How the lack of practical alternatives leaves officers with few options, feeding into an overwhelmed justice system.

(33:25) Community Partnerships

* The need for community collaboration and victim inclusion in justice processes.

* How restorative justice prioritizes healing for victims while reducing offender recidivism.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): What alternatives to arrests and citations can reduce harm and strengthen safety?

In this episode, Mike, Carol, and Kristin challenge the overreliance on arrests and citations as default responses to complex social and health issues. They explore how the criminal justice system’s one-size-fits-all model perpetuates cycles of harm for both offenders and victims. They also highlight the need for upstream solutions, deeper community partnerships, and practical alternatives that prioritize safety and belonging.

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

(0:19) Overrelying on the Criminal Justice System

* How arrests and citations have become default tools for addressing social and health issues.

* Why some elected officials perpetuate the idea that laws and penalties can “fix” complex problems, despite high recidivism rates.

(8:29) Building Trust and Compassion

* Mutual trust, compassion, and resource development are foundations for healthier police-community relationships.

(15:57) Disentangling Police From the Criminal Justice “Hip”

* Challenging police departments to develop alternatives beyond arrests, urging connection with the “heart of the community.”

(22:30) Lack of Options and Systemic Bottlenecks

* Calls for emotional intelligence and active listening training to help officers discern better responses.

* How the lack of practical alternatives leaves officers with few options, feeding into an overwhelmed justice system.

(33:25) Community Partnerships

* The need for community collaboration and victim inclusion in justice processes.

* How restorative justice prioritizes healing for victims while reducing offender recidivism.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx 

Subscribe via Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4h8puWm 

Subscribe via YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectPACT-org 

This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co/ 

This episode explores the evolving state of policing in America and the cultural shifts necessary for true reform. Mike, Carol, and Kristin reflect on the last decade of public safety, the recurring cycles of tragedy and retreat, and the need for interdependent relationships between police and communities. 

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

(8:30) The Trap of Band-Aid Fixes

* Many police reforms are reactionary, failing to address deeper systemic issues.

* How punitive legislation overlooks community responsibility.

(20:20) Shifting the Power Dynamic

* Why fear-based policies harm both police and community trust.

* How community empowerment is key to healthy public safety.

(28:05) Ending the Tug-of-War

* How alignment and trust build stronger neighborhoods.

* Police departments can be leverage points for broader cultural evolution.

(36:00) The Hope for Sustainable Change

* A vision of citizens as collaborators in safety.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx 

Subscribe via Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4h8puWm 

Subscribe via YouTube: How can we move beyond short-term police reforms and toward lasting cultural change?

This episode explores the evolving state of policing in America and the cultural shifts necessary for true reform. Mike, Carol, and Kristin reflect on the last decade of public safety, the recurring cycles of tragedy and retreat, and the need for interdependent relationships between police and communities. 

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

(8:30) The Trap of Band-Aid Fixes

* Many police reforms are reactionary, failing to address deeper systemic issues.

* How punitive legislation overlooks community responsibility.

(20:20) Shifting the Power Dynamic

* Why fear-based policies harm both police and community trust.

* How community empowerment is key to healthy public safety.

(28:05) Ending the Tug-of-War

* How alignment and trust build stronger neighborhoods.

* Police departments can be leverage points for broader cultural evolution.

(36:00) The Hope for Sustainable Change

* A vision of citizens as collaborators in safety.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx 

Subscribe via Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4h8puWm 

Subscribe via YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectPACT-org 

This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co/

This episode explores Chief Mike Butler’s transformational leadership in Longmont, Colorado, revealing how authentic conversations, strategic vulnerability, and restorative justice reshaped public safety. 

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

(0:44) Reimagining Police Leadership

* How Mike used conversation and curiosity to understand and reshape Longmont’s policing culture.

(8:57) Vulnerability and Transparency in Policing

* Mike discusses the strategic planning process that involved over 1,000 community and staff voices.

* How internal healing allowed police officers to extend trust and vulnerability outward.

(22:01) Restorative Justice and Youth Engagement

* Restorative justice models that address youth crime.

* How co-creating with citizens helped reduce reliance on the criminal justice system.

(29:46) Mental Health and Community-Based Responses

* Longmont’s interventions with addiction.

* The role of community in reducing crime and creating healing.

(35:22) The Role of Training in Cultural Shift

* The importance of training in reshaping officer mindset and skills.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx 

Subscribe via Spotify:...]]>What can happen when a police department invites the community to co-author its mission?

This episode explores Chief Mike Butler’s transformational leadership in Longmont, Colorado, revealing how authentic conversations, strategic vulnerability, and restorative justice reshaped public safety. 

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

(0:44) Reimagining Police Leadership

* How Mike used conversation and curiosity to understand and reshape Longmont’s policing culture.

(8:57) Vulnerability and Transparency in Policing

* Mike discusses the strategic planning process that involved over 1,000 community and staff voices.

* How internal healing allowed police officers to extend trust and vulnerability outward.

(22:01) Restorative Justice and Youth Engagement

* Restorative justice models that address youth crime.

* How co-creating with citizens helped reduce reliance on the criminal justice system.

(29:46) Mental Health and Community-Based Responses

* Longmont’s interventions with addiction.

* The role of community in reducing crime and creating healing.

(35:22) The Role of Training in Cultural Shift

* The importance of training in reshaping officer mindset and skills.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx 

Subscribe via Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4h8puWm 

Subscribe via YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectPACT-org 

This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co/ 

This episode rethinks the selection and development of police leaders, emphasizing the need for transformational individuals who can foster profound community engagement and move beyond traditional law enforcement roles. Hosts Mike, Carol, and Kristin discuss the importance of relational skills, transparency, and a long-term vision for police chiefs to build trust and create a safer, more connected future. 

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

(2:53) Rethinking Police Leadership

* The need for a shift in mindset around leadership development in police departments.

(08:08) Culture and Accountability

* Why transparency and cultural change should be priorities for leaders.

* The lack of relational training in formal education programs.

(14:34) Flaws in the Chief Selection Process

* How many selection panels ignore the qualities that build long-term community trust.

* Mike shares a hiring story to illustrate how being people-oriented is a non-negotiable.

* Leadership must move beyond strategic planning to relational presence and team-building.

(34:48) Advice for Police Chiefs 

* Reflecting on ambition and on your leadership style.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: What qualities truly matter when selecting a future police chief? Also, how can police departments develop leaders who are genuinely transformational? 

This episode rethinks the selection and development of police leaders, emphasizing the need for transformational individuals who can foster profound community engagement and move beyond traditional law enforcement roles. Hosts Mike, Carol, and Kristin discuss the importance of relational skills, transparency, and a long-term vision for police chiefs to build trust and create a safer, more connected future. 

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

(2:53) Rethinking Police Leadership

* The need for a shift in mindset around leadership development in police departments.

(08:08) Culture and Accountability

* Why transparency and cultural change should be priorities for leaders.

* The lack of relational training in formal education programs.

(14:34) Flaws in the Chief Selection Process

* How many selection panels ignore the qualities that build long-term community trust.

* Mike shares a hiring story to illustrate how being people-oriented is a non-negotiable.

* Leadership must move beyond strategic planning to relational presence and team-building.

(34:48) Advice for Police Chiefs 

* Reflecting on ambition and on your leadership style.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx 

Subscribe via Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4h8puWm 

Subscribe via YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectPACT-org 

This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co/

This episode explores what it means to hire the right people for public safety roles in today's world. Mike, Carol, and Kristin examine the traits of a PACT-aligned officer—one who is emotionally intelligent, community-driven, and adaptable. Together, they challenge outdated models of enforcement and offer a hopeful, practical vision for the future of policing.

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

(0:43) The Right Kind of Candidate

* Ideal traits include communication, empathy, and a service mindset.

* How policing needs both physical readiness and emotional range.

(6:15) Police and Culture

* Mike recounts his early career and the shift from enforcement to approachability.

* The impact of support systems on officer well-being.

* Emotional maturity, curiosity, and resilience are highlighted as key traits.

(17:42) How to Evaluate a Police Department

* Questions new hires could ask.

(23:30) Innovation and Adaptability in Policing

* Generational traits and collective innovation.

* The importance of adaptable police officers.

* The role of lifelong learning and curiosity is unpacked.

* How negligent hiring harms communities and police departments.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via...]]>What kind of person is truly fit to serve as a public safety officer today? And how can police departments attract individuals focused on public service and community well-being?

This episode explores what it means to hire the right people for public safety roles in today's world. Mike, Carol, and Kristin examine the traits of a PACT-aligned officer—one who is emotionally intelligent, community-driven, and adaptable. Together, they challenge outdated models of enforcement and offer a hopeful, practical vision for the future of policing.

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

(0:43) The Right Kind of Candidate

* Ideal traits include communication, empathy, and a service mindset.

* How policing needs both physical readiness and emotional range.

(6:15) Police and Culture

* Mike recounts his early career and the shift from enforcement to approachability.

* The impact of support systems on officer well-being.

* Emotional maturity, curiosity, and resilience are highlighted as key traits.

(17:42) How to Evaluate a Police Department

* Questions new hires could ask.

(23:30) Innovation and Adaptability in Policing

* Generational traits and collective innovation.

* The importance of adaptable police officers.

* The role of lifelong learning and curiosity is unpacked.

* How negligent hiring harms communities and police departments.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx 

Subscribe via Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4h8puWm 

Subscribe via YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectPACT-org 

This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co/ 

This episode explores what it really means to take ownership—within a police department, an organization, or a community. Mike, Carol, and Kristin discuss the cultural shifts required to move away from entitlement and toward responsibility and empowerment. With practical stories and honest insights, they offer tips for building systems where trust, collaboration, and innovation thrive.

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

(0:00) Defining Ownership in Organizations

* How ownership connects to outcomes and organizational vision.

* Reframing ownership as a responsibility to people and culture.

(6:37) Leadership, Fear, and Entitlement

* How entitlement stems from disconnection and blame.

* The need for leaders to confront fear and create safe environments.

* Henry Ford’s quote: “'Why is it every time I ask for a pair of hands, they come with a brain attached?”

(13:18) Creating Cultures of Safety and Risk

* What leaders can do to support new ideas.

* How organizational structures squash creativity.

(16:49) Real Stories of Ownership 

* Police officers redesigned the master officer program based on impact, not paperwork.

* Community members launched a citizen patrol program with police support.

(24:57) The Benefits of Ownership

* How ownership leads to trust, innovation, and community safety.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose...]]>How can police and community leaders cultivate a culture where ownership is safe and encouraged?

This episode explores what it really means to take ownership—within a police department, an organization, or a community. Mike, Carol, and Kristin discuss the cultural shifts required to move away from entitlement and toward responsibility and empowerment. With practical stories and honest insights, they offer tips for building systems where trust, collaboration, and innovation thrive.

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

(0:00) Defining Ownership in Organizations

* How ownership connects to outcomes and organizational vision.

* Reframing ownership as a responsibility to people and culture.

(6:37) Leadership, Fear, and Entitlement

* How entitlement stems from disconnection and blame.

* The need for leaders to confront fear and create safe environments.

* Henry Ford’s quote: “'Why is it every time I ask for a pair of hands, they come with a brain attached?”

(13:18) Creating Cultures of Safety and Risk

* What leaders can do to support new ideas.

* How organizational structures squash creativity.

(16:49) Real Stories of Ownership 

* Police officers redesigned the master officer program based on impact, not paperwork.

* Community members launched a citizen patrol program with police support.

(24:57) The Benefits of Ownership

* How ownership leads to trust, innovation, and community safety.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx 

Subscribe via Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4h8puWm 

Subscribe via YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectPACT-org 

This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co/ 

In this episode, Mike, Carol, and Kristin explore the transformational concept of stewardship—moving from patriarchal control to shared community ownership. They discuss how stewarding people, not managing them, fosters deeper accountability, creativity, and connection. 

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

(0:41) Defining Stewardship

* Stewardship means honoring people, not controlling them.

(5:57) Building Culture Through Literacy and Dialogue

* Mike describes launching "Our Town" conferences with Peter Block.

(11:46) From Citizen to Steward 

* How civic engagement starts in your own neighborhood.

* Progress takes time, conversation, and perseverance.

(18:05) Skills for Stewardship and Shared Responsibility

* The skills needed to shift culture.

* The importance of asking good questions.

* How training can change the relationship between citizens and institutions.

Mentioned in this episode: “Stewardship: Choosing Service Over Self Interest,” a book by Peter Block.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx 

Subscribe via Spotify: What does it mean to choose service over self-interest in your professional and community roles? Also, how can we redefine leadership through stewardship instead of control?

In this episode, Mike, Carol, and Kristin explore the transformational concept of stewardship—moving from patriarchal control to shared community ownership. They discuss how stewarding people, not managing them, fosters deeper accountability, creativity, and connection. 

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

(0:41) Defining Stewardship

* Stewardship means honoring people, not controlling them.

(5:57) Building Culture Through Literacy and Dialogue

* Mike describes launching "Our Town" conferences with Peter Block.

(11:46) From Citizen to Steward 

* How civic engagement starts in your own neighborhood.

* Progress takes time, conversation, and perseverance.

(18:05) Skills for Stewardship and Shared Responsibility

* The skills needed to shift culture.

* The importance of asking good questions.

* How training can change the relationship between citizens and institutions.

Mentioned in this episode: “Stewardship: Choosing Service Over Self Interest,” a book by Peter Block.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx 

Subscribe via Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4h8puWm 

Subscribe via YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectPACT-org 

This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co/

This episode dives into the foundational principles of authentic partnerships within policing. The hosts explore transparency, shared accountability, and leadership that values every voice. Real-world examples show how shifting culture fosters trust, creativity, and sustainable public safety outcomes.

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

(1:25) Authentic Partnerships

* Partnerships should emphasize joint accountability, the right to express reservations, and honesty.

(4:57) Cultivating Trust and Openness

* How transparency is essential for mutual trust. 

* The importance of partners being equal. 

(11:46) Leadership and Generational Perspectives

* An open mind is often more important than an open door for leaders.

* How seniority brings wisdom but also a different worldview. 

* Treating people with respect. 

(21:18) Collaborative Culture 

* How new police officers receive training to understand that their role is to help people help themselves, rather than simply being the answer.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx 

Subscribe via Spotify: How can police departments foster genuine partnerships both internally and with the communities they serve?

This episode dives into the foundational principles of authentic partnerships within policing. The hosts explore transparency, shared accountability, and leadership that values every voice. Real-world examples show how shifting culture fosters trust, creativity, and sustainable public safety outcomes.

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

(1:25) Authentic Partnerships

* Partnerships should emphasize joint accountability, the right to express reservations, and honesty.

(4:57) Cultivating Trust and Openness

* How transparency is essential for mutual trust. 

* The importance of partners being equal. 

(11:46) Leadership and Generational Perspectives

* An open mind is often more important than an open door for leaders.

* How seniority brings wisdom but also a different worldview. 

* Treating people with respect. 

(21:18) Collaborative Culture 

* How new police officers receive training to understand that their role is to help people help themselves, rather than simply being the answer.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

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Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx 

Subscribe via Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4h8puWm 

Subscribe via YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectPACT-org 

This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co/ 

This episode explores how communities can thrive and create meaningful change even as federal funding for social and health programs is being cut. The hosts emphasize a shift from dependency on outside sources to leveraging the social capital within our communities. They share examples of successful initiatives where local resources, volunteers, and partnerships were galvanized to address issues like domestic violence and addiction, thus healing their own wounds.

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

(0:22) Rethinking Federal Dependency

* The growing concern about disappearing federal funding for community-police initiatives.

* Why some police departments chose not to rely on ongoing federal support.

(10:28) Community Solutions in Action

* Initiatives to reduce domestic violence without using federal money.

* The power of galvanizing neighborhoods, churches, and businesses.

(25:40) Addiction and the Angel Initiative

* Addressing substance abuse and offering care as part of a community-wide commitment.

* Helping people recover and reenter society.

(33:58) Self-Reliant Neighborhoods 

* How to identify “connectors” in neighborhoods and empower them to lead.

* Neighborhoods thrive when they coalesce around trust, safety, and mutual care.

(42:42) Neuroscience and Healing

* Curiosity, not suspicion, is key to changing brains and communities.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): How can your community or city leverage social capital to fill the gaps left by lost federal grants?

This episode explores how communities can thrive and create meaningful change even as federal funding for social and health programs is being cut. The hosts emphasize a shift from dependency on outside sources to leveraging the social capital within our communities. They share examples of successful initiatives where local resources, volunteers, and partnerships were galvanized to address issues like domestic violence and addiction, thus healing their own wounds.

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

(0:22) Rethinking Federal Dependency

* The growing concern about disappearing federal funding for community-police initiatives.

* Why some police departments chose not to rely on ongoing federal support.

(10:28) Community Solutions in Action

* Initiatives to reduce domestic violence without using federal money.

* The power of galvanizing neighborhoods, churches, and businesses.

(25:40) Addiction and the Angel Initiative

* Addressing substance abuse and offering care as part of a community-wide commitment.

* Helping people recover and reenter society.

(33:58) Self-Reliant Neighborhoods 

* How to identify “connectors” in neighborhoods and empower them to lead.

* Neighborhoods thrive when they coalesce around trust, safety, and mutual care.

(42:42) Neuroscience and Healing

* Curiosity, not suspicion, is key to changing brains and communities.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx 

Subscribe via Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4h8puWm 

Subscribe via YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectPACT-org 

This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co/

In this episode, retired law enforcement leader Neill Franklin joins our co-hosts to explore how police culture can shift toward trust, accountability, and real connection with communities. 

Neill Franklin spent decades in policing, from narcotics to academy leadership—and he's still not done. A former executive director of LEAP, a former Chief of Human Resources of the Baltimore Police Department, and a former Major of the Maryland State Police, Neill is known for challenging the status quo and building bold, community-focused alternatives to the way policing works.

Topics that co-hosts Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley, and their guest, Neill Franklin, explore in this episode: 

(02:25) Neill’s Early Policing Experience 

* Neill reflects on his time with the Maryland State Police.

(9:59) Drug Policy and Field Training

* The racial disparities in drug enforcement and the violence it fuels.

* How field training can be reconnected with academy ideals.

(24:14) Building Trust 

* How trust starts with simple, respectful communication.

* Avoiding over-policing victims.

(36:01) First-Line Supervisors

* Supervisors need to be hands-on coaches, not buried in admin tasks.

(47:52) Leading a Department by Vision and Relationship

* Ethical Policing Is Courageous (EPIC), an initiative launched by Baltimore Police Commissioner Mike Harrison. 

* Neill lays out what he'd do as a police chief—starting with direct, personal communication.

Thanks to Neill Franklin for being on the show! 

Learn more about Neill: https://neillfranklin.com/

Connect with Neill: https://www.linkedin.com/in/neill-franklin/ 

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): What can police leadership do to preserve the idealism of new police recruits and to promote communication and accountability in their departments? 

In this episode, retired law enforcement leader Neill Franklin joins our co-hosts to explore how police culture can shift toward trust, accountability, and real connection with communities. 

Neill Franklin spent decades in policing, from narcotics to academy leadership—and he's still not done. A former executive director of LEAP, a former Chief of Human Resources of the Baltimore Police Department, and a former Major of the Maryland State Police, Neill is known for challenging the status quo and building bold, community-focused alternatives to the way policing works.

Topics that co-hosts Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley, and their guest, Neill Franklin, explore in this episode: 

(02:25) Neill’s Early Policing Experience 

* Neill reflects on his time with the Maryland State Police.

(9:59) Drug Policy and Field Training

* The racial disparities in drug enforcement and the violence it fuels.

* How field training can be reconnected with academy ideals.

(24:14) Building Trust 

* How trust starts with simple, respectful communication.

* Avoiding over-policing victims.

(36:01) First-Line Supervisors

* Supervisors need to be hands-on coaches, not buried in admin tasks.

(47:52) Leading a Department by Vision and Relationship

* Ethical Policing Is Courageous (EPIC), an initiative launched by Baltimore Police Commissioner Mike Harrison. 

* Neill lays out what he'd do as a police chief—starting with direct, personal communication.

Thanks to Neill Franklin for being on the show! 

Learn more about Neill: https://neillfranklin.com/

Connect with Neill: https://www.linkedin.com/in/neill-franklin/ 

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx 

Subscribe via Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4h8puWm 

Subscribe via YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectPACT-org 

This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co/ 

This episode explores the attributes of genuine police-community partnerships, moving beyond traditional, patriarchal approaches to public safety. The hosts discuss how joint accountability, shared vision, and authentic relationships are crucial for creating healthy communities and fostering a sense of belonging. They also emphasize that true safety emerges when both police and citizens actively participate and take responsibility for their collective well-being. 

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

(1:18) Building Real Partnership

* How true public safety requires shared responsibility.

* The cultural overhaul needed inside departments before change can happen outside.

(10:11) The Power of Curiosity and Listening

* Using vulnerability and listening as tools for trust-building.

* How inviting community members into ownership transforms neighborhoods.

(27:17) Creating Points of Entry for Citizens

* How everyday people can get involved with police and city governance.

* The role of associations in driving community wellness.

(36:36) From Culture Shift to Cultural Leadership

* The role of trust and relationship repair in justice work.

Resources mentioned in this episode: 

* The Answer To How Is Yes, a book by Peter Block. 

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose...]]>What does authentic community-police partnership look like in practice? And what steps can community members and police officers take to shift our culture?

This episode explores the attributes of genuine police-community partnerships, moving beyond traditional, patriarchal approaches to public safety. The hosts discuss how joint accountability, shared vision, and authentic relationships are crucial for creating healthy communities and fostering a sense of belonging. They also emphasize that true safety emerges when both police and citizens actively participate and take responsibility for their collective well-being. 

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

(1:18) Building Real Partnership

* How true public safety requires shared responsibility.

* The cultural overhaul needed inside departments before change can happen outside.

(10:11) The Power of Curiosity and Listening

* Using vulnerability and listening as tools for trust-building.

* How inviting community members into ownership transforms neighborhoods.

(27:17) Creating Points of Entry for Citizens

* How everyday people can get involved with police and city governance.

* The role of associations in driving community wellness.

(36:36) From Culture Shift to Cultural Leadership

* The role of trust and relationship repair in justice work.

Resources mentioned in this episode: 

* The Answer To How Is Yes, a book by Peter Block. 

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx 

Subscribe via Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4h8puWm 

Subscribe via YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectPACT-org 

This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co/ 

This episode explores what a healthy, interdependent community looks like when public safety isn’t just the job of police, but of every citizen. Hosts Carol, Mike, and Kristin share personal stories and strategies for shifting from fear-based systems to collaborative, citizen-led solutions. Together, they reveal how mutual trust, shared vision, and co-creation can drive real, lasting change.

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

(9:40) Overcoming Fear and Building Trust

* How fear can stall progress on both sides of public safety.

* How internal organizational change at Mike’s department enabled external community trust.

* Creating a safe environment through trial, error, and learning.

(22:27) Co-Creation in Action

* How police officers and citizens can co-create solutions, including restorative justice courts and cultural awareness training.

* The need for a shared vision and mutual design of safety systems.

(27:54) Community Engagement

* How active citizen participation can reshape systems.

(45:05) How You Can Make a Difference

* Actionable tips for everyday citizens.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/project-pact-police-and-community-together/about/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/project.pact/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond...]]>What does a truly healthy and interdependent community look like in practice, and how can individuals contribute to its creation?

This episode explores what a healthy, interdependent community looks like when public safety isn’t just the job of police, but of every citizen. Hosts Carol, Mike, and Kristin share personal stories and strategies for shifting from fear-based systems to collaborative, citizen-led solutions. Together, they reveal how mutual trust, shared vision, and co-creation can drive real, lasting change.

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

(9:40) Overcoming Fear and Building Trust

* How fear can stall progress on both sides of public safety.

* How internal organizational change at Mike’s department enabled external community trust.

* Creating a safe environment through trial, error, and learning.

(22:27) Co-Creation in Action

* How police officers and citizens can co-create solutions, including restorative justice courts and cultural awareness training.

* The need for a shared vision and mutual design of safety systems.

(27:54) Community Engagement

* How active citizen participation can reshape systems.

(45:05) How You Can Make a Difference

* Actionable tips for everyday citizens.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/project-pact-police-and-community-together/about/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/project.pact/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx 

Subscribe via Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4h8puWm 

Subscribe via YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectPACT-org 

This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co/ 

In this episode, guest Neil Gross and your hosts discuss police culture and the challenges of reform. Neil shares insights from his book Walk the Walk, which examines how three police departments have successfully shifted their approaches to policing. 

Today’s guest didn’t just study policing—he lived it. A former officer turned sociologist, Neil now teaches at Colby College, researching how police culture can change for the better. 

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, Kristin Daley, and Neil Gross explore in this episode: 

(01:00) The Origins of Walk the Walk

* Why Neil decided to write about police culture and reform.

(10:30) Finding Models of Police Reform

* How Neil identified departments making positive changes.

* The key elements that made the police departments in Stockton (California), Longmont (Colorado), and LaGrange (Georgia) stand out.

(20:45) The Role of Training and Mindset

* The impact of traditional police training on officers’ mentalities.

* The balance between officer safety and community trust.

(30:20) Changing Police Culture from the Inside

* The importance of leadership in shaping department culture.

* What’s next for police reform efforts?

* How communities and officers can work together to create safer cities.

Thanks to Neil Gross for coming on the show. Learn more about Neil: https://neilgross.com/ 

Get Neil’s book, Walk the Walk: How Three Police Chiefs Defied the Odds and Changed Cop Culture: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1250777526 

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/project-pact-police-and-community-together/about/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/project.pact/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and...]]>What lessons can be learned from cities that have successfully reformed their police cultures?

In this episode, guest Neil Gross and your hosts discuss police culture and the challenges of reform. Neil shares insights from his book Walk the Walk, which examines how three police departments have successfully shifted their approaches to policing. 

Today’s guest didn’t just study policing—he lived it. A former officer turned sociologist, Neil now teaches at Colby College, researching how police culture can change for the better. 

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, Kristin Daley, and Neil Gross explore in this episode: 

(01:00) The Origins of Walk the Walk

* Why Neil decided to write about police culture and reform.

(10:30) Finding Models of Police Reform

* How Neil identified departments making positive changes.

* The key elements that made the police departments in Stockton (California), Longmont (Colorado), and LaGrange (Georgia) stand out.

(20:45) The Role of Training and Mindset

* The impact of traditional police training on officers’ mentalities.

* The balance between officer safety and community trust.

(30:20) Changing Police Culture from the Inside

* The importance of leadership in shaping department culture.

* What’s next for police reform efforts?

* How communities and officers can work together to create safer cities.

Thanks to Neil Gross for coming on the show. Learn more about Neil: https://neilgross.com/ 

Get Neil’s book, Walk the Walk: How Three Police Chiefs Defied the Odds and Changed Cop Culture: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1250777526 

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/project-pact-police-and-community-together/about/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/project.pact/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx 

Subscribe via Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4h8puWm 

Subscribe via YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectPACT-org 

This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co/ 

In this episode, Mike Butler, Carol, and Kristin discuss the evolution of community policing and the importance of leadership in law enforcement. They also explore collaborative initiatives like Project PACT and LEAP that aim to bridge gaps between police and communities.

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

(02:00) Community Policing

* The evolution of community policing.

* The significance of community engagement in law enforcement.

(12:15) Leadership Development in Law Enforcement

* The role of leadership programs in shaping effective police officers.

* Why officers need to feel ownership over their work and department.

(24:30) Collaborative Initiatives

* Overview of Project PACT's mission and impact.

* The contributions of the Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP) to policy reform.

(36:45) Challenges and Solutions in Modern Policing

* Addressing contemporary issues faced by law enforcement agencies.

* Implementing innovative strategies to improve public safety.

* The importance of adaptability and continuous learning in policing.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/project-pact-police-and-community-together/about/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/project.pact/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers,...]]>What are some of the key components of a successful community policing model?

In this episode, Mike Butler, Carol, and Kristin discuss the evolution of community policing and the importance of leadership in law enforcement. They also explore collaborative initiatives like Project PACT and LEAP that aim to bridge gaps between police and communities.

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

(02:00) Community Policing

* The evolution of community policing.

* The significance of community engagement in law enforcement.

(12:15) Leadership Development in Law Enforcement

* The role of leadership programs in shaping effective police officers.

* Why officers need to feel ownership over their work and department.

(24:30) Collaborative Initiatives

* Overview of Project PACT's mission and impact.

* The contributions of the Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP) to policy reform.

(36:45) Challenges and Solutions in Modern Policing

* Addressing contemporary issues faced by law enforcement agencies.

* Implementing innovative strategies to improve public safety.

* The importance of adaptability and continuous learning in policing.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/project-pact-police-and-community-together/about/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/project.pact/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx 

Subscribe via Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4h8puWm 

Subscribe via YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectPACT-org 

This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.successwithstories.com 

This episode explores how seeing through the lens of goodness can transform public safety and community relationships. Mike, Carol, and Kristin share real-life examples of neighborhoods that became safer through engagement, trust, and collaboration rather than increased enforcement. 

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

(05:26) Building a Strength-Based Police Department

* The importance of compassion over punishment in law enforcement training.

* How traditional policing often reinforces negative cycles. 

(17:06) Finding and Supporting Community Champions

* How change agents emerge in both police departments and neighborhoods.

* How New Blue identifies and supports forward-thinking officers who seek systemic change.

(28:27) Transforming a High-Crime Neighborhood

* A story of a gang-infested neighborhood that went from 150+ calls per month to fewer than five, through community-led initiatives.

* The role of shared vision and persistence.

(44:00) When Communities Bring Goodness into Policing

* How an activist leader helped transform police-community relations by focusing on gifts instead of grievances.

* How meaningful engagement changes officers’ perspectives and builds trust.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/project-pact-police-and-community-together/about/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/project.pact/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): How can shifting from a problem-solving mindset to a possibility-focused mindset transform policing and communities?

This episode explores how seeing through the lens of goodness can transform public safety and community relationships. Mike, Carol, and Kristin share real-life examples of neighborhoods that became safer through engagement, trust, and collaboration rather than increased enforcement. 

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

(05:26) Building a Strength-Based Police Department

* The importance of compassion over punishment in law enforcement training.

* How traditional policing often reinforces negative cycles. 

(17:06) Finding and Supporting Community Champions

* How change agents emerge in both police departments and neighborhoods.

* How New Blue identifies and supports forward-thinking officers who seek systemic change.

(28:27) Transforming a High-Crime Neighborhood

* A story of a gang-infested neighborhood that went from 150+ calls per month to fewer than five, through community-led initiatives.

* The role of shared vision and persistence.

(44:00) When Communities Bring Goodness into Policing

* How an activist leader helped transform police-community relations by focusing on gifts instead of grievances.

* How meaningful engagement changes officers’ perspectives and builds trust.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/project-pact-police-and-community-together/about/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/project.pact/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx 

Subscribe via Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4h8puWm 

Subscribe via YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectPACT-org 

This episode was produced by Story On Media & Marketing: https://www.successwithstories.com 

This episode explores how police roles have evolved from peace officers to law enforcement agents. Hosts Mike, Carol, and Kristin also discuss the challenges of police overload, the importance of community partnerships, and ways to create safer, more connected neighborhoods. 

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

* The unhealthy over-dependence on police for non-criminal social and health issues.

* How neighborhood self-sufficiency can drastically reduce calls for police service.

* Shifting from punitive enforcement to community-centered safety approaches.

* Addressing recidivism and the limitations of the current criminal justice system.

* Challenges of police cultural norms.

* Practical steps neighborhoods can take to improve safety without heavy police reliance.

* How transparency and open communication can rebuild community trust in police.

Chapters: 

(02:46) Historical Context: How Police Roles Have Evolved

(09:01) Present-Day Challenges 

(18:54) Legislative Impact on Police Responsibilities

(26:57) Neighborhood Self-Sufficiency

(35:21) Building Social Capital 

(42:35) Shifting Police Culture

A resource mentioned in this episode: Safety in Our Hands, a book by Mike Butler and Peter Block.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/project-pact-police-and-community-together/about/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/project.pact/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): How have police roles evolved from the 1800s to the present day?

This episode explores how police roles have evolved from peace officers to law enforcement agents. Hosts Mike, Carol, and Kristin also discuss the challenges of police overload, the importance of community partnerships, and ways to create safer, more connected neighborhoods. 

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

* The unhealthy over-dependence on police for non-criminal social and health issues.

* How neighborhood self-sufficiency can drastically reduce calls for police service.

* Shifting from punitive enforcement to community-centered safety approaches.

* Addressing recidivism and the limitations of the current criminal justice system.

* Challenges of police cultural norms.

* Practical steps neighborhoods can take to improve safety without heavy police reliance.

* How transparency and open communication can rebuild community trust in police.

Chapters: 

(02:46) Historical Context: How Police Roles Have Evolved

(09:01) Present-Day Challenges 

(18:54) Legislative Impact on Police Responsibilities

(26:57) Neighborhood Self-Sufficiency

(35:21) Building Social Capital 

(42:35) Shifting Police Culture

A resource mentioned in this episode: Safety in Our Hands, a book by Mike Butler and Peter Block.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/project-pact-police-and-community-together/about/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/project.pact/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx 

Subscribe via Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4h8puWm 

Subscribe via YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectPACT-org  

This episode was produced by Story On Media & Marketing: https://www.successwithstories.com 

This episode explores a different philosophy of justice that emphasizes healing, accountability, and community engagement. Hosts Mike, Carol, and Kristin discuss why traditional punitive systems fail and how restorative approaches can build safer, more connected communities. Together, they highlight solutions that promote responsibility, reduce recidivism, and foster genuine public safety.

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

* The limitations of "bandaid" solutions in public safety and policing.

* Why changing police chiefs or adding body cameras isn’t enough.

* The importance of community engagement in public safety solutions.

* How restorative justice offers an alternative to punitive models.

* Why traditional systems struggle to lower recidivism rates.

* The role of neuroscience in justice reform.

* How victims' voices are often missing from the justice process.

* Examples of successful community-police partnerships, like Evanston’s Care Card program.

Chapters: 

(01:03) What Does a "Bandaid" Solution Look Like?

(06:33) Historical Perspectives on Justice and Recidivism

(15:28) The Current Criminal Justice System

(23:05) Choosing Accountability vs. Forced Accountability

(30:29) Victim Healing and Community Voice

(38:42) Alternatives to Traditional Justice Approaches

(46:45) Proactive Community Engagement

Resources mentioned in this episode: 

* Care Card Program, Evanston, Illinois.

* Viktor Frankl’s book, Man’s Search for Meaning.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/project-pact-police-and-community-together/about/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/project.pact/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): How can communities and police departments work together to move beyond quick-fix solutions in public safety?

This episode explores a different philosophy of justice that emphasizes healing, accountability, and community engagement. Hosts Mike, Carol, and Kristin discuss why traditional punitive systems fail and how restorative approaches can build safer, more connected communities. Together, they highlight solutions that promote responsibility, reduce recidivism, and foster genuine public safety.

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

* The limitations of "bandaid" solutions in public safety and policing.

* Why changing police chiefs or adding body cameras isn’t enough.

* The importance of community engagement in public safety solutions.

* How restorative justice offers an alternative to punitive models.

* Why traditional systems struggle to lower recidivism rates.

* The role of neuroscience in justice reform.

* How victims' voices are often missing from the justice process.

* Examples of successful community-police partnerships, like Evanston’s Care Card program.

Chapters: 

(01:03) What Does a "Bandaid" Solution Look Like?

(06:33) Historical Perspectives on Justice and Recidivism

(15:28) The Current Criminal Justice System

(23:05) Choosing Accountability vs. Forced Accountability

(30:29) Victim Healing and Community Voice

(38:42) Alternatives to Traditional Justice Approaches

(46:45) Proactive Community Engagement

Resources mentioned in this episode: 

* Care Card Program, Evanston, Illinois.

* Viktor Frankl’s book, Man’s Search for Meaning.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/project-pact-police-and-community-together/about/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/project.pact/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx 

Subscribe via Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4h8puWm 

Subscribe via YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectPACT-org 

This episode was produced by Story On Media & Marketing: https://www.successwithstories.com 

This episode explores how police departments and communities can create a sustainable culture of accountability. Hosts Mike, Carol, and Kristin discuss the importance of vulnerability, transparency, and shared responsibility in transforming public safety. 

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

* The distinctions between legislated, demanded, purchased, and chosen accountability.

* How flattening organizational structures promotes responsibility at all levels.

* Why peer accountability is often more effective than top-down enforcement.

* The role of community engagement in fostering trust and shared responsibility.

* Listening as the first step in creating solutions that work for both police and the public.

* How early intervention and reporting improve community safety.

* Using technology, like body-worn cameras, to highlight positive community interactions.

* Metrics that measure progress beyond crime statistics.

Chapters: 

(02:15) Defining Accountability in Policing and Communities

(10:47) Mike on Chosen Accountability

(14:46) Building Internal Organizational Culture

(24:18) Community Engagement 

(34:51) Vulnerability and Listening

(39:11) Technology and Metrics

(47:36) Taking Action

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/project-pact-police-and-community-together/about/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/project.pact/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: How can police departments foster a culture where accountability is chosen rather than imposed?

This episode explores how police departments and communities can create a sustainable culture of accountability. Hosts Mike, Carol, and Kristin discuss the importance of vulnerability, transparency, and shared responsibility in transforming public safety. 

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

* The distinctions between legislated, demanded, purchased, and chosen accountability.

* How flattening organizational structures promotes responsibility at all levels.

* Why peer accountability is often more effective than top-down enforcement.

* The role of community engagement in fostering trust and shared responsibility.

* Listening as the first step in creating solutions that work for both police and the public.

* How early intervention and reporting improve community safety.

* Using technology, like body-worn cameras, to highlight positive community interactions.

* Metrics that measure progress beyond crime statistics.

Chapters: 

(02:15) Defining Accountability in Policing and Communities

(10:47) Mike on Chosen Accountability

(14:46) Building Internal Organizational Culture

(24:18) Community Engagement 

(34:51) Vulnerability and Listening

(39:11) Technology and Metrics

(47:36) Taking Action

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/project-pact-police-and-community-together/about/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/project.pact/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx 

Subscribe via Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4h8puWm 

Subscribe via YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectPACT-org 

This episode was produced by Story On Media & Marketing: https://www.successwithstories.com

This episode explores the evolving role of law enforcement and its impact on communities. Hosts Mike, Carol, and Kristin discuss the importance of community relationships, trauma-informed practices, and systemic policy changes to bridge the gap between police and the public. 

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

* The historical context of law enforcement’s role in American society.

* The evolution of policing from punitive measures to community-focused practices.

* The impact of community isolation and the loss of social capital on public safety.

* The role of trauma in law enforcement and its effects on officers and citizens.

* The importance of transparent and authentic conversations between police and communities.

* Shifting police culture from patriarchal to partnership-oriented models.

* Hiring relationship-centered officers.

* How organizations like Project PACT, LEAP, and New Blue are driving policy and cultural change.

Chapters: 

(03:39) Defining Law Enforcement and Its Role

(07:25) The Purpose of Policing

(12:14) Morality and the Justice System

(20:06) The Evolution of Policing and Community Trust

(31:09) The Role of Social Capital in Public Safety

(37:54) Systemic Policies and Community Collaboration

(45:50) A Vision for the Future

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/project-pact-police-and-community-together/about/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/project.pact/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: What changes can we make to improve trust and collaboration between law enforcement and communities? 

This episode explores the evolving role of law enforcement and its impact on communities. Hosts Mike, Carol, and Kristin discuss the importance of community relationships, trauma-informed practices, and systemic policy changes to bridge the gap between police and the public. 

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

* The historical context of law enforcement’s role in American society.

* The evolution of policing from punitive measures to community-focused practices.

* The impact of community isolation and the loss of social capital on public safety.

* The role of trauma in law enforcement and its effects on officers and citizens.

* The importance of transparent and authentic conversations between police and communities.

* Shifting police culture from patriarchal to partnership-oriented models.

* Hiring relationship-centered officers.

* How organizations like Project PACT, LEAP, and New Blue are driving policy and cultural change.

Chapters: 

(03:39) Defining Law Enforcement and Its Role

(07:25) The Purpose of Policing

(12:14) Morality and the Justice System

(20:06) The Evolution of Policing and Community Trust

(31:09) The Role of Social Capital in Public Safety

(37:54) Systemic Policies and Community Collaboration

(45:50) A Vision for the Future

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/project-pact-police-and-community-together/about/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/project.pact/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx 

Subscribe via Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4h8puWm 

Subscribe via YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectPACT-org 

This episode was produced by Story On Media & Marketing: https://www.successwithstories.com 

This episode explores the urgent need to rethink policing and community relationships. Hosts Mike, Carol, and Kristin discuss actionable strategies to shift police culture, amplify community strengths, and promote mutual understanding. 

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

* The limitations of traditional "band-aid" solutions in addressing systemic issues in policing.

* Fostering belonging within both police departments and the communities they serve.

* How Project PACT leverages collaboration to build trust and mutual understanding.

* The role of restorative justice and community-led initiatives in reimagining public safety.

* Strategies for creating cultures of empathy, compassion, and active listening within police departments.

* The concept of "amplifying the good" to crowd out negative patterns in both communities and law enforcement.

* Real-life examples of police departments empowering communities to become self-reliant.

* The need for systemic reform alongside community transformation.

* Training programs offered by Project PACT to equip police and community leaders with essential skills.

Chapters: 

(03:50) Why Policing Feels "Stuck"

(07:17) The Role of Idealism in Policing

(10:02) Amplifying the Good Within Communities

(14:40) Collaboration Between Police and Community Members

(18:10) The Role of Police in Healing Trauma

(25:17) Essential Skills for Reimagining Policing

(36:38) Shifting Police and Community Cultures Together

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/project-pact-police-and-community-together/about/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/project.pact/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): How can communities and police departments work together to foster trust and well-being?

This episode explores the urgent need to rethink policing and community relationships. Hosts Mike, Carol, and Kristin discuss actionable strategies to shift police culture, amplify community strengths, and promote mutual understanding. 

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

* The limitations of traditional "band-aid" solutions in addressing systemic issues in policing.

* Fostering belonging within both police departments and the communities they serve.

* How Project PACT leverages collaboration to build trust and mutual understanding.

* The role of restorative justice and community-led initiatives in reimagining public safety.

* Strategies for creating cultures of empathy, compassion, and active listening within police departments.

* The concept of "amplifying the good" to crowd out negative patterns in both communities and law enforcement.

* Real-life examples of police departments empowering communities to become self-reliant.

* The need for systemic reform alongside community transformation.

* Training programs offered by Project PACT to equip police and community leaders with essential skills.

Chapters: 

(03:50) Why Policing Feels "Stuck"

(07:17) The Role of Idealism in Policing

(10:02) Amplifying the Good Within Communities

(14:40) Collaboration Between Police and Community Members

(18:10) The Role of Police in Healing Trauma

(25:17) Essential Skills for Reimagining Policing

(36:38) Shifting Police and Community Cultures Together

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/project-pact-police-and-community-together/about/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/project.pact/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx 

Subscribe via Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4h8puWm 

Subscribe via YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectPACT-org 

This episode was produced by Story On Media & Marketing: https://www.successwithstories.com

In this episode, Mike, Carol, and Kristin discuss innovative approaches to community and police collaboration. They explore the importance of shared accountability, belonging, and proactive engagement to create safer, more connected neighborhoods. With real-life examples and practical insights, the hosts demonstrate how communities can take ownership of their well-being and transform public safety.

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

* The concept of shared accountability in creating safer communities.

* Why a sense of belonging is essential for community health and safety.

* Shifting from a reactive to a proactive approach in public safety.

* How police can transition from a paternalistic model to a partnership model.

* Strategies for engaging youth and empowering them as community leaders.

* Real-life examples of successful community-police collaboration.

* Redefining public safety metrics. 

* Addressing the cultural and systemic barriers to police-community cooperation.

Chapters: 

(02:00) Redefining Community and Police Roles

(09:00) Building Trust Through Belonging

(16:30) Shifting to a Shared Model of Accountability

(24:00) Engaging Youth in Public Safety

(32:15) Examples of Community Empowerment

(42:00) Overcoming Barriers to Cooperation

Resources mentioned in this episode: 

* Safety in Our Hands, a book by Mike Butler and Peter Block: https://projectpact.org/resources/ 

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/project-pact-police-and-community-together/about/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/project.pact/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement]]>How can communities and police redefine their roles in ensuring public safety?

In this episode, Mike, Carol, and Kristin discuss innovative approaches to community and police collaboration. They explore the importance of shared accountability, belonging, and proactive engagement to create safer, more connected neighborhoods. With real-life examples and practical insights, the hosts demonstrate how communities can take ownership of their well-being and transform public safety.

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

* The concept of shared accountability in creating safer communities.

* Why a sense of belonging is essential for community health and safety.

* Shifting from a reactive to a proactive approach in public safety.

* How police can transition from a paternalistic model to a partnership model.

* Strategies for engaging youth and empowering them as community leaders.

* Real-life examples of successful community-police collaboration.

* Redefining public safety metrics. 

* Addressing the cultural and systemic barriers to police-community cooperation.

Chapters: 

(02:00) Redefining Community and Police Roles

(09:00) Building Trust Through Belonging

(16:30) Shifting to a Shared Model of Accountability

(24:00) Engaging Youth in Public Safety

(32:15) Examples of Community Empowerment

(42:00) Overcoming Barriers to Cooperation

Resources mentioned in this episode: 

* Safety in Our Hands, a book by Mike Butler and Peter Block: https://projectpact.org/resources/ 

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/project-pact-police-and-community-together/about/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/project.pact/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx 

Subscribe via Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4h8puWm 

Subscribe via YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectPACT-org 

This episode was produced by Story On Media & Marketing: https://www.successwithstories.com 

This episode dives into the transformative potential of reimagining public safety through collaboration between police and communities. Hosts Mike, Carol, and Kristin explore the importance of shared responsibility, trust-building, and community engagement in creating safer, more connected neighborhoods. With insights from decades of leadership and innovative projects, they discuss actionable ways to redefine policing as a partnership rather than a hierarchy.

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode:

* The distinction between solving problems and creating possibilities in public safety.

* Historical and cultural challenges in police-community relationships.

* The importance of police idealism and strategies to sustain it.

* The role of community voices in shaping policing policies and practices.

* Insights from Longmont’s strategic plan, involving 1,000 participants.

* Empowering communities to take shared responsibility for safety.

* Practical frameworks like the New Blue program for co-producing solutions.

* The role of conversations, dissent, and invitations in fostering collaboration.

* Building a culture of belonging and ownership within communities and police departments.

Chapters:

(02:19) Exploring the Vision of Project PACT

(07:46) Historical Challenges in Policing

(11:54) Shifting Power Dynamics in Police-Community Relationships

(18:32) Frameworks for Co-Producing Solutions

(22:27) Longmont’s Strategic Planning Journey

(32:02) Conversations on Possibility and Partnership

(42:28) Building Trust and Belonging

Resources mentioned in this episode:

* Community: The Structure of Belonging, a book by Peter Block.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/project-pact-police-and-community-together/about/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/project.pact/

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT.

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/

New Blue: https://newblue.org/

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx

Subscribe via Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4h8puWm

Subscribe via YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectPACT-org

This episode was produced by Story On Media & Marketing:...]]>How can police departments and communities shift from problem-solving to creating possibilities? Also, what does a shared model of public safety look like, and how can it be achieved?

This episode dives into the transformative potential of reimagining public safety through collaboration between police and communities. Hosts Mike, Carol, and Kristin explore the importance of shared responsibility, trust-building, and community engagement in creating safer, more connected neighborhoods. With insights from decades of leadership and innovative projects, they discuss actionable ways to redefine policing as a partnership rather than a hierarchy.

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode:

* The distinction between solving problems and creating possibilities in public safety.

* Historical and cultural challenges in police-community relationships.

* The importance of police idealism and strategies to sustain it.

* The role of community voices in shaping policing policies and practices.

* Insights from Longmont’s strategic plan, involving 1,000 participants.

* Empowering communities to take shared responsibility for safety.

* Practical frameworks like the New Blue program for co-producing solutions.

* The role of conversations, dissent, and invitations in fostering collaboration.

* Building a culture of belonging and ownership within communities and police departments.

Chapters:

(02:19) Exploring the Vision of Project PACT

(07:46) Historical Challenges in Policing

(11:54) Shifting Power Dynamics in Police-Community Relationships

(18:32) Frameworks for Co-Producing Solutions

(22:27) Longmont’s Strategic Planning Journey

(32:02) Conversations on Possibility and Partnership

(42:28) Building Trust and Belonging

Resources mentioned in this episode:

* Community: The Structure of Belonging, a book by Peter Block.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/project-pact-police-and-community-together/about/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/project.pact/

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT.

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/

New Blue: https://newblue.org/

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx

Subscribe via Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4h8puWm

Subscribe via YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectPACT-org

This episode was produced by Story On Media & Marketing: https://www.successwithstories.com

In this episode, your hosts delve into innovative approaches to community policing and the need to move beyond traditional enforcement models. Mike, Carol, and Kristin discuss restorative practices, social capital, and the power of neuroscience in transforming public safety. Together, they explore how reimagining and repurposing police roles can lead to stronger, safer, and more connected communities.

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

* The meaning behind the podcast’s title, Beyond the Bandaids.

* Recidivism rates and how restorative practices can break the cycle.

* The Care Card program in Evanston, Illinois, as a model of community engagement.

* The impact of police officers experiencing trauma and ways to address it.

* Examples of community collaboration transforming individual lives.

* Neuroscientist Dr. Bruce Perry's findings on trauma and healing.

* Challenges and cycles of "defund" versus "refund" narratives in policing.

* How reallocating police budgets can strengthen community resources.

* The importance of transcending traditional roles to redefine public safety.

Chapters: 

(02:00) Exploring Gratitude and Possibilities in Policing

(09:00) Community Programs 

(15:00) Understanding and Addressing Recidivism

(25:00) Transcending the Law and Order Mindset

(35:00) Neuroscience, Trauma, and Healing in Communities

(45:00) Reallocating Resources for Public Safety

Resources mentioned in this episode: 

* The Boy Who Was Raised as a Dog, a book by Dr. Bruce Perry. 

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/project-pact-police-and-community-together/about/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/project.pact/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project...]]>How can communities and police departments work together to move beyond the defund/refund binary?

In this episode, your hosts delve into innovative approaches to community policing and the need to move beyond traditional enforcement models. Mike, Carol, and Kristin discuss restorative practices, social capital, and the power of neuroscience in transforming public safety. Together, they explore how reimagining and repurposing police roles can lead to stronger, safer, and more connected communities.

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

* The meaning behind the podcast’s title, Beyond the Bandaids.

* Recidivism rates and how restorative practices can break the cycle.

* The Care Card program in Evanston, Illinois, as a model of community engagement.

* The impact of police officers experiencing trauma and ways to address it.

* Examples of community collaboration transforming individual lives.

* Neuroscientist Dr. Bruce Perry's findings on trauma and healing.

* Challenges and cycles of "defund" versus "refund" narratives in policing.

* How reallocating police budgets can strengthen community resources.

* The importance of transcending traditional roles to redefine public safety.

Chapters: 

(02:00) Exploring Gratitude and Possibilities in Policing

(09:00) Community Programs 

(15:00) Understanding and Addressing Recidivism

(25:00) Transcending the Law and Order Mindset

(35:00) Neuroscience, Trauma, and Healing in Communities

(45:00) Reallocating Resources for Public Safety

Resources mentioned in this episode: 

* The Boy Who Was Raised as a Dog, a book by Dr. Bruce Perry. 

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/project-pact-police-and-community-together/about/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/project.pact/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx 

Subscribe via Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4h8puWm 

Subscribe via YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectPACT-org 

This episode was produced by Story On Media & Marketing: https://www.successwithstories.com 

In this episode, the hosts explore the history and evolution of policing in the U.S. and its implications for public safety and community trust. Mike, Carol, and Kristin discuss how patriarchal models of policing have contributed to unhealthy dependencies. Through the lens of Project PACT, the conversation centers on fostering trust, redefining public service, and envisioning a future where communities and police work together to create lasting change.

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

* The unintended consequences of over-reliance on police to solve community problems.

* How fear-based narratives in the media contribute to a culture of dependency on policing.

* The importance of moving from caretaking (a patriarchal model) to caring for communities.

* Redefining justice to include community voices and victim needs.

* Strategies for preserving the idealism of police officers entering the profession.

* How Project PACT aims to help communities and police transcend traditional models.

Chapters: 

(01:00) Historical Context of Policing

(07:00) The Pitfalls of Fear-Based Policies

(14:00) Shifting from Dependency to Collaboration

(20:45) Rebuilding Trust 

(29:00) The Role of Social Capital

(42:00) Rethinking Justice and Public Safety

(54:00) Looking Ahead with Project PACT

Resources mentioned in this episode: 

* Stewardship: Choosing Service Over Self-Interest, a book by Peter Block. 

* Community: The Structure of Belonging, a book by Peter Block. 

* "Safety in Our Hands," a pamphlet by Mike Butler and Peter Block. 

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/project-pact-police-and-community-together/about/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/project.pact/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to...]]>How has the history of policing shaped its current challenges and public perception?

In this episode, the hosts explore the history and evolution of policing in the U.S. and its implications for public safety and community trust. Mike, Carol, and Kristin discuss how patriarchal models of policing have contributed to unhealthy dependencies. Through the lens of Project PACT, the conversation centers on fostering trust, redefining public service, and envisioning a future where communities and police work together to create lasting change.

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

* The unintended consequences of over-reliance on police to solve community problems.

* How fear-based narratives in the media contribute to a culture of dependency on policing.

* The importance of moving from caretaking (a patriarchal model) to caring for communities.

* Redefining justice to include community voices and victim needs.

* Strategies for preserving the idealism of police officers entering the profession.

* How Project PACT aims to help communities and police transcend traditional models.

Chapters: 

(01:00) Historical Context of Policing

(07:00) The Pitfalls of Fear-Based Policies

(14:00) Shifting from Dependency to Collaboration

(20:45) Rebuilding Trust 

(29:00) The Role of Social Capital

(42:00) Rethinking Justice and Public Safety

(54:00) Looking Ahead with Project PACT

Resources mentioned in this episode: 

* Stewardship: Choosing Service Over Self-Interest, a book by Peter Block. 

* Community: The Structure of Belonging, a book by Peter Block. 

* "Safety in Our Hands," a pamphlet by Mike Butler and Peter Block. 

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/project-pact-police-and-community-together/about/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/project.pact/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx 

Subscribe via Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4h8puWm 

Subscribe via YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectPACT-org 

This episode was produced by Story On Media & Marketing: https://www.successwithstories.com 

This debut episode explores the concept of moving beyond Band-Aid solutions to address the root causes of problems in our communities and create a safer, more connected future. Your hosts Mike, Carol, and Kristin discuss the importance of community engagement, restorative practices, and social capital in building trust and collaboration between the police and the community. They also emphasize the need to see people, organizations, and communities through the lens of goodness and possibility. 

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

* The need to move beyond bandaid solutions and address the root causes of problems in our communities. 

* The importance of community engagement in public safety. 

* The role of restorative practices in building trust and collaboration between the police and the community. 

* The concept of social capital and its importance in addressing social and health issues. 

* Seeing people, organizations, and communities through the lens of goodness and possibility. 

* The importance of compassion and understanding in creating a shared vision for public safety. 

* The role of the police in meeting community needs and facilitating community engagement. 

* Looking at what's working well and expanding on it. 

* The need for a new model of policing that is more connected to the heart of the community. 

Chapters: 

(0:59) The Vision of Project PACT (Police And Community Together) 

(2:02) Beyond the Bandaids: Addressing the Root Causes of Problems 

(5:15) Carol’s Background in Social Responsibility and Social Sustainability 

(11:32) Kristin's Background in Justice System Work

(15:25) Mike's Background in Public Service and Community Partnerships 

(18:55) The Power of Social Capital: Addressing Social and Health Issues 

(25:55) Creating a Shared Vision for Public Safety 

Resources mentioned in this episode: 

* Safety In Our Hands, a booklet by Mike Butler and Peter Block.  

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

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Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: How can we improve the trust and collaboration between the police and the community? 

This debut episode explores the concept of moving beyond Band-Aid solutions to address the root causes of problems in our communities and create a safer, more connected future. Your hosts Mike, Carol, and Kristin discuss the importance of community engagement, restorative practices, and social capital in building trust and collaboration between the police and the community. They also emphasize the need to see people, organizations, and communities through the lens of goodness and possibility. 

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

* The need to move beyond bandaid solutions and address the root causes of problems in our communities. 

* The importance of community engagement in public safety. 

* The role of restorative practices in building trust and collaboration between the police and the community. 

* The concept of social capital and its importance in addressing social and health issues. 

* Seeing people, organizations, and communities through the lens of goodness and possibility. 

* The importance of compassion and understanding in creating a shared vision for public safety. 

* The role of the police in meeting community needs and facilitating community engagement. 

* Looking at what's working well and expanding on it. 

* The need for a new model of policing that is more connected to the heart of the community. 

Chapters: 

(0:59) The Vision of Project PACT (Police And Community Together) 

(2:02) Beyond the Bandaids: Addressing the Root Causes of Problems 

(5:15) Carol’s Background in Social Responsibility and Social Sustainability 

(11:32) Kristin's Background in Justice System Work

(15:25) Mike's Background in Public Service and Community Partnerships 

(18:55) The Power of Social Capital: Addressing Social and Health Issues 

(25:55) Creating a Shared Vision for Public Safety 

Resources mentioned in this episode: 

* Safety In Our Hands, a booklet by Mike Butler and Peter Block.  

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/project-pact-police-and-community-together/about/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/project.pact/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

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This episode was produced by Story On Media & Marketing: https://www.successwithstories.com

Each week, hosts Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, Kristin Daley, and Chief Mike Butler talk with experts and visionaries who are transforming public service. Discover how innovative leadership, compassion, and restorative practices can bridge gaps and build stronger connections between community stakeholders and police officials.

If you're ready to rediscover your purpose within your community, enhance your leadership, and make a lasting impact, Beyond the Bandaids with Project PACT is the podcast for you. Whether you're a police officer, city leader, or committed community member, join us to unlock new possibilities for a safer, more connected future. 

Here is a selection of just a few of the important topics that Mike, Carol, and Kristin will explore in coming episodes: 

* The evolution of policing and how our hosts’ experiences shape their perspectives on justice and reform.

* Why the endless tug-of-war over police funding misses the real conversation about safety, accountability, and community well-being.

* A fresh perspective on whether police and communities are at odds—or if they can build something better together.

* How shifting from reliance on law enforcement to shared community responsibility can create lasting safety and resilience.

* What if public safety was built on trust, equity, and collaboration rather than outdated models of enforcement?

* A critical look at how law enforcement interprets and applies the law—and whether it truly serves justice for all.

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