When legal advice reaches the C-suite, it often arrives in the wrong form. Too much detail and not enough focus on what the CEO actually needs to hear.

In this episode, I’m joined by Nick Jain, Partner at Eagle Rock and former CEO of IdeaScale (amongst other organisations). Nick is a growth architect and $100M+ operator who has spent years scaling companies, working directly with leadership teams and seeing first hand how legal advice lands in the laps of leaders.

We unpack how CEOs and CFOs triage risk, how lawyers can communicate in numbers and choices rather than legal language and the habits that help legal professionals build credibility with leadership.

If you’ve ever wondered how to get your advice heard (not just delivered) this conversation offers a view from the other side of the table.

Covered in this episode:

1. How CEOs and CFOs evaluate risk.
2. What executives actually want to hear from legal teams.
3. The categories of legal risk that matter most to leadership.
4. Explaining legal issues without drowning executives in detail.
5. The questions in-house counsel should ask themselves before escalating an issue to the CEO.
6. When a “risk” isn’t actually a risk.
7. Where small risks can grow into major problems.
8. How AI is reshaping white-collar work.
9. And more...

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And in this episode, we’re cutting through the hype, the panic, and the broken promises that are leading businesses into AI chaos and liability.

I’m joined by Allen Martinez, Chief AI Architect/Growth Strategist and Creator of BXAIOS. Allen has had an interesting career path, from directing for Quentin Tarantino’s commercial division to helping scale a Shark Tank-funded company to a $300m exit, Allen now designs AI governance frameworks that stop AI systems from improvising their own dialogue and potentially destroying your brand in the process.

We separate reality from fantasy when it comes to AI heading into 2026 and discuss how legal teams can build guardrails that protect both business growth and their brand trust.

If you want to know how to make AI work for organisations while minimising the risk and legal headaches, this episode is for you (and you don’t need a computer science degree to follow along).

Covered in this episode:

1. What’s real about AI in 2026 and what’s pure fantasy.
2. The “plug and play” AI myth leading businesses into chaos.
3. Why AI collisions can be an even bigger risk than hallucinations.
4. What constraints companies should be placing on AI systems.
5. Defending AI-driven decisions in court.
6. Where to start with AI implementation.
7. Why legal teams need to care about brand as much as the marketing department.
8. When AI “time savings” aren’t really savings
9. And more…

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Deepfakes are becoming more than just internet pranks and slop content. They’re becoming industrialised deception. And with millions of deepfakes now circulating, and most people being unable to reliably detect them, the line between what’s real and fake is wearing thin. And the law is struggling to keep up with its pace.

In this episode, I’m joined by Dina Ovsepian, Senior Associate at Gavrilov & Brooks and a leading business litigator working on deepfake cases in Los Angeles. Dina is helping clients protect their likeness and their careers.

We unpack how deepfakes have evolved and the risks that they now pose, not just to celebrities, but to just about anyone. We take a look at the real-world harm already happening, and the legal landscape across the US, UK, and EU.

This conversation explores what lawyers and in-house legal teams need to do to prepare for these challenges in 2026 and beyond.

Covered in this episode:

1. The explosion of deepfakes in recent years.
2. Why modern deepfakes are more dangerous.
3. How scammers are using deepfakes in new ways which you might never expect.
4. The legal protections under review and the gaps that still exist.
5. Can the law keep up with AI’s rapid expansion?
6. What lawyers and in-house teams must prepare for in 2026.
7. Finding opportunity inside the emerging AI risks.
8. And more…

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But there’s usually a human in the middle of it all. And that’s where the risk usually sits.

I know I’ve clicked on things I shouldn’t have before…

And that’s why, in this episode, we’re joined by Robert Siciliano - security analyst, author, media voice, and one of the most recognisable educators in personal and corporate cyber security protection.

Robert has appeared on CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, CNBC, The Today Show, and is quoted in outlets like USA Today and Forbes. He also delivers security awareness training to organisations to help them to get their people to care about security.

We explore why typical workplace security training often fails, how to build what Robert calls a “strategic human firewall” and how to move employees from reluctant compliance to personal investment.

If you want to protect your own and build a culture that protects the people who you work with and your operations, this episode is essential.

Covered in this episode:

1. The biggest risk to cyber security.
2. Why most cyber security training doesn’t stick.
3. What needs to change to get employees to care about cyber security.
4. The risks AI introduces to organisational security.
5. Why companies resist investing in security training.
6. The one security habit everyone needs.
7. And more…

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In this episode, we’re joined by Merlin Beyts, Content Director at LegalTechTalk, one of the biggest legal tech conferences around. Merlin sits at the intersection of legal and technology, asking the blunt questions lawyers often avoid. 

We unpack the real reason why so many digital transformations fail, and how to ensure your tech implementations aren’t a wasted endeavour. Merlin uncovers the hidden signals that a team isn’t ready for more tech and the specific questions every legal leader should ask before rolling out AI.

If you're about to pull the trigger on another tool, listen to this first - it might just save you a lot of time and money.

Covered in this episode:

• How to avoid ‘shiny object syndrome’.
• When not to implement new tech.
• What sets successful tech rollouts apart from the flops.
• How to actually get ROI from a digital transformation.
• Why in-house teams experience buyers’ remorse after implementing tech solutions.
• The questions legal teams must answer before adopting AI.
• The truth about whether AI is coming for legal jobs.
• And more…

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Most legal teams are fighting a similar battle. They want influence, they want trust, and they want a seat at the strategy table. But siloed cultures and broken communication keep pulling them back.

In this episode, we’re joined by Dr. Heidi Gardner, a force in the world of collaboration and leadership. Heidi is a Distinguished Fellow at Harvard Law School and CEO of research/advisory firm, Gardner & Co. Heidi also has had two Washington Post best sellers, just to name a few things that make this conversation not to be missed…

When it comes to understanding how professionals can stop tripping over silos and start working smarter, together, Heidi is the real deal.

So if you want to step into the role of strategic collaborator, who shapes the direction of the business, don’t miss this episode.

Covered in this episode:

• How in-house lawyers can flip the narrative and become growth enablers.
• The causes behind mistrust between legal departments and the rest of the business.
• Turning “no” into a tool for alignment rather than friction.
• Communicating legal advice in a way that influences decisions.
• Translating legal risks into strategic value.
• Building trust across departments.
• Future-proofing legal teams.
• The surprising way AI can strengthen collaboration inside legal teams.
• And more…

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In this episode, we’re joined by Sarah Derbyshire, General Counsel at Baringa. Sarah is a calm and collected, yet fiercely driven legal leader who’s built legal functions from scratch, helped pilot AI effectively, and co-founded a career-shaping network for in-house lawyers.

Sarah’s career looks more squiggly than a game of snakes and ladders, and that’s part of what makes her so effective.

We dig deep into how Sarah was able to cut contract cycle time by 40% in her first year at Baringa, the approach she uses to turn resistance into applause, and the key to implementing change without causing chaos.

This is for anyone working within a legal department who wants to have more of an impact and keep up, without burning out.

Covered in this episode:

• How Sarah reduced contract cycle time at Baringa by 40%.
• How to implement change in a way that creates minimum chaos.
• The one thing every lawyer needs to do with regards to AI.
• Understanding needs vs wants with AI.
• The benefits of a squiggly career.
• How Sarah went from hating networking to co-founding a thriving network.
• What makes a leader in modern legal teams?
• Why compliance isn’t only legal’s responsibility.
• And more…

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Out-of-home advertising is evolving quickly, with head-turning billboards, bus stops and spectacular stunts taking over headlines, as organisations seek to stand out in a crowded marketplace.

But the legal questions behind those dazzling digital displays are just as complex as the technology powering them.

In this episode, I’m joined by Yvonne Fern, General Counsel at Talon, who’s steering legal strategy in one of the most dynamic corners of advertising.

With experience at BBC and Deutsche Telekom, Yvonne brings a sharp legal and commercial lens to everything from AI liability to ESG compliance.

For in-house lawyers, this conversation is packed with insight on balancing priorities, building boundaries and keeping pace with a rapidly changing industry.

Covered in this episode:

• The legal and ethical challenges in ad tech and out-of-home advertising.
• Navigating AI liability.
• The rise of ESG compliance and how critical it will become.
• Setting boundaries as an in-house lawyer.
• The secret to smoother negotiations.
• Is AI a legal lifeline or a liability?
• And more…

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In this episode, we’re joined by Professor Richard Ashcroft, Executive Dean at City Law School, City St George's, University of London, a bioethicist, and former Alan Turing Fellow.

Richard has spent his career navigating the crossroads of law, ethics, and technology, and now he’s helping shape how tomorrow’s lawyers are trained to lead and judge.

With AI tools taking root within universities, opportunities and risks both come with it. Richard has a unique perspective as an academic leader, which he shares with us.

We dive deep into what ethical leadership looks like in the age of AI and whether legal education is evolving fast enough to keep pace with disruption.

This conversation might just make you rethink how we train and trust legal minds…

Covered in this episode:

• Is legal education keeping pace with AI disruption?
• Is AI doing more harm or good for the legal profession?
• The mindset lawyers need to thrive in an AI-powered world.
• How law students are actually using AI tools today.
• Why the law’s fluid nature clashes with the rigidity of LLMs.
• Why human creativity in law can’t be automated.
• Building the future legal workforce.
• And more…

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For many lawyers, redundancy (or other kinds of career shifts) can feel like losing a part of yourself. But leadership coach, Daryl Seager, who joins me on this episode tells a different story.

Daryl has helped over 2500 leaders across 20 countries reclaim their confidence, clarity and voice. And he brings us a reminder that what we do isn’t who we are.

If you’re facing a redundancy, or career panic of any sort, this episode will help you to start taking the right steps towards discovering what really matters to you, and how to many is a part of your life.

Covered in this episode:

• How to rebuild your identity after losing a role.
• The ‘three lists’ strategy for figuring out who you are beyond your job.
• The impact of AI and tech advancements on finding a new path.
• The ‘small steps’ approach to start moving forward today.
• How to hold yourself accountable when starting over.
• Why your title doesn’t define your worth.
• And more…

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In-house teams are facing a compliance crunch with AML reforms, AI regulations, ESG mandates and more, and piling on a plethora of platforms to peruse (and finding one that’s within budget), is a mighty task in itself.

That’s why, in this episode, we’re joined by Jon Bartman, Co-Founder of The Law Tech Consultancy.

Jon has made a career of cutting through the noise by helping legal teams avoid pitfalls, stretch their budgets, and choose tech that actually works and scales.

If you’re drowning in tech options to implement into your in-house team, this conversation will help you separate hype from what actually works, and how to keep your head while doing so.

Covered in this episode:

• How to evaluate legal tech without falling for marketing hype.
• The blind spots most in-house teams miss when implementing new systems.
• What makes a legal tech stack scalable?
• How to stretch your budget and punch above your weight.
• Where AI should and shouldn’t fit into your legal tech stack.
• The qualities lawyers need today to thrive.
• And more…

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And for in-house legal teams that aren’t using AI, the challenge generally isn’t around resistance, it’s time, budgets and knowing where to begin.

That’s why in this episode of Beyond The Fine Print, I’m joined by Henry Goodwin, Partner at Leo Capital, and Ravi Tandon, Co-Founder & CEO of legal intelligence platform, DecoverAI.

We dive into how AI is reshaping the legal profession today and we can expect it to evolve going forward.

If you’re an in-house lawyer under pressure to deliver more with less time and resources, this episode will help you cut through the hype and get clear on how AI can help you, while avoiding the potential risks that AI comes with.

Covered in this episode:

• The biggest challenges legal teams face when implementing AI.
• Why trust remains the number one barrier to adoption.
• How to build client confidence in AI solutions.
• Where AI can help lean functions compete with the big players.
• Should AI ever be allowed to approve a contract?
• Tactical ways to deploy AI that empower lawyers instead of replacing them.
• And more…

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In this episode, I sit down with the 177th President of the Law Society of England and Wales and the first person of colour to take on the role.

Stephanie Boyce grew up on a council estate in England, then moved to the US, before moving back to the UK to study law. And since then, Stephanie has become a defining voice in law.

For many lawyers, the profession still feels like a game where the rules are written by someone else. With the doors only opening to those with the right network and background. Add AI into the mix, and the future feels even more uncertain.

This conversation is about what we need to do to keep the profession equitable for all.

Covered in this episode:

• Stephanie’s journey from council estate to President of the Law Society of England and Wales.
• What equity really means.
• Why meritocracy doesn’t always work.
• The hidden ways society is becoming less accessible.
• The rollback of DEI initiatives in law firms and what it means for our future.
• The antidote to the risks AI presents.
• The playbook for the next generation of lawyers stepping into leadership.
• The attributes that define great leaders in turbulent times
• And more…

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The relationships and trust that make legal work effective are built on making connections.

And that’s why we’ve invited Patricia Gannon onto this episode. Patricia is the Founder & CEO at Platforum9, a tech platform that connects legal minds through audio conversations.

Patricia also built the biggest law firm in the Balkans, and has a ton of insights on scaling businesses and embracing change.

If you’re a lawyer who wants to stay ahead of AI-driven change, this episode is packed with guidance and actionable takeaways.

Covered in this episode:

• Why human connection still matters in an AI-driven world and how to make sure we don’t lose it.
• Patricia’s international journey to building the largest law firm in the Balkans.
• The challenges of being the only woman at the table in legal environments.
• The biggest blind spot in law firms today.
• How Patricia identified a gap in the market and launched Platforum9.
• Practical ways in-house teams can get better results from outside counsel.
• How to reframe “friction conversations” into value conversations.
• What’s essential to growth in 2025?
• And more…

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According to our guest in this episode, more than you might think.

Legal ops whisperer, Tom Fleuriot, joins us to decode the Five "Beasts" that in-house lawyer must tame in order to thrive in today's complex legal and business environments.

Tom is the founder of Flocsam, and brings a huge amount of tactical insight into how in-house legal teams can execute impactful change.

So, if you want to simplify operations, influence stakeholders the right way, and bridge the gap between legal expertise and commercial fluency this episode is for you.

Covered in this episode:

• The 5 beasts of an inhouse lawyer and how to tame them.
• How to know which “beast” to deploy and when to back off.
• How in-house lawyers can build trust and simplify risk management.
• The real role of lawyers inside a business.
• Why lifelong learning isn’t optional for lawyers.
• Bridging the gap between legal knowledge and commercial fluency.
• Common legal risk assessment pitfalls for lawyers.
• A simple test to check if you're articulating risk effectively.
• How emerging tech is reshaping (and complicating) legal ops.
• And more…

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A caped crusader defending the multiverse?

Or maybe just a really expensive calculator that no one actually understands?

If you're not up to scratch on all things quantum - you’d better listen to this episode…

Our guest is Rebecca Keating, Barrister at 4 Pump Court and co-author of The Law of Quantum Computing. She unpacks what quantum computing really means for lawyers and regulators.

We’ve already had to deal with AI, but with quantum around the corner - and even ‘quantum AI’(?!), there’s no time to slow down.

We break down the basics in this episode - simplifying the tech - before diving into the real legal implications, from encryption risks to regulatory frameworks, ESG angles, and IP considerations.

Consider this episode is your legal heads-up for all things quantum - before it’s too late.

In this episode, you’ll discover:

• What every lawyer needs to know about quantum computing.
• What is a qubit and why does it matter to legal teams?
• Which industries will quantum computing transform first?
• How quantum could make today’s encryption obsolete.
• The legal blind spots in quantum-related contracts.
• Regulate first vs. regulate after go-to-market.
• ESG and IP considerations around quantum computing.
• And more…

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Managing high-stakes decisions on tight deadlines leads to stress and burnout, and keeping up with what’s coming next in law and the world of tech can feel like a full-time job in itself.

Beyond The Fine Print cuts through the noise, delivering digestible insights on legal trends and developments in tech while breaking through the jargon.

I’m your host, Rory O’Keeffe and each episode I’ll be bringing you a conversation with a thought leader in the space.

This is the law podcast designed for in-house legal counsel in tech and commercial sectors, bringing you clarity on UK and European regulations, helping you feel more informed, effective and just a bit less stressed.

This isn’t a legal seminar. If you want to gain real value without falling asleep, subscribe to Beyond The Fine Print on your favourite podcast platform now.