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Mina Kimes & Danny Kelly on the Super Bowl Champion Seahawks

Tue, 10 Feb 2026 22:00:00 -0700

Jacson is joined by the finest analysts ESPN and The Ringer have to offer to break down the Seahawks’ Super Bowl victory!

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Super Bowl LX Preview with Sheil Kapadia

Mon, 02 Feb 2026 20:00:00 -0700

The host of The Ringer NFL Show joins Jacson to break down Seahawks vs. Patriots in the Super Bowl! Listen as they examine every single positional and strategic matchup in this game, telling you which team has the advantages at each — and why.

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Stacy Rost on the NFC Champion Seahawks and their thrilling win over the Rams

Tue, 27 Jan 2026 19:00:00 -0700

710 ESPN's excellent host joins Jacson to discuss the biggest moments of a wild NFC Championship Game, as well as which of their preseason Seahawks predictions they got right, and which ones they were wrong about.

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Michael-Shawn Dugar previews the NFC Championship Game

Tue, 20 Jan 2026 18:30:00 -0700

The Athletic’s reporter sits down with Jacson to discuss the parallels between these Seahawks and the Legion of Boom era, how Seattle’s blowout win over the Niners traces back to August, the spiritual leaders of the team, and what to look for in the conference-tilting clash this Sunday against the Rams.

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Robert Mays previews Seahawks-49ers and the rest of the Divisional Round

Tue, 13 Jan 2026 22:30:00 -0700

The host of The Athletic NFL Show joins Jacson for a far-reaching preview of every Divisional Round game. They break down Seattle’s big game against San Fran, as well as which teams have which advantages in the Rams-Bears, Bills-Broncos, and Texans-Patriots matchups. Plus, Super Bowl picks!

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Mike Golic Jr. on the #1 seed Seahawks and the NFL Playoffs

Wed, 07 Jan 2026 19:30:00 -0700

One of our favorite guests is back, as he and Jacson discuss Seattle's claim to the NFC's top seed and the biggest themes from the 2025 NFL season. They also break down every game in the Wild Card round, rank the biggest threats to the Seahawks, and make their Super Bowl picks.

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Gregg Rosenthal on the Game of the Year and Seattle's Super Bowl chances

Mon, 22 Dec 2025 19:00:00 -0700

The NFL analyst breaks down Seattle’s insane win over the Rams and discusses with Jacson what it means for both teams. The two also rank Sam Darnold among playoff QBs, debate whether the Seahawks defense is the best in the league, and more!

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Jourdan Rodrigue previews the Game of the Year between the Seahawks and Rams

Tue, 16 Dec 2025 19:30:00 -0700

The Senior NFL writer for The Athletic and former Rams beat reporter sits down with Jacson to analyze one of the best matchups on the entire NFL schedule. Listen as the two of them break down which team has which advantages, and how they expect each coaching staff to exploit them Thursday night.

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Brock Huard on the 10-win Seahawks and his level of faith in Sam Darnold

Tue, 09 Dec 2025 15:30:00 -0700

The former quarterback and current analyst chops up the win over the Falcons with Jacson, before giving a QB-on-QB review of Darnold. They also discuss what exactly makes the Seahawks defense elite, the success of their youngest players, and what he needs to see against the Colts this week.

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Danny Kelly on the Seahawks’ performances against the Rams and Titans

Mon, 24 Nov 2025 18:30:00 -0700

The Ringer’s NFL analyst joins Jacson to break down Seattle’s games against arguably the best and worst teams in the NFL over the last two weeks. They discuss the team's strengths and weaknesses, whether the Seahawks are overly reliant on JSN, and what they need to see this week against the Vikings.

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Dave “Softy” Mahler on the ascendant Seahawks and an NFC-tilting showdown vs the Rams

Tue, 11 Nov 2025 20:00:00 -0700

KJR’s gregarious host sits down with Jacson to discuss the biggest takeaways from Seattle’s dominant win over Arizona, what to look for against Los Angeles on Sunday, and potential causes for concern amid the team’s success.

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Sheil Kapadia on the NFL Trade Deadline and Seattle’s Super Bowl Chances

Tue, 04 Nov 2025 12:00:00 -0700

The Ringer NFL Show’s host and analyst joins Jacson to break down the Seahawks’ SNF dominance in DC, what has allowed the team to fire on all cylinders, how sustainable their success is, and where they rank among NFC contenders.

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Jacson recaps Seahawks vs. Bucs and breaks down Sam Darnold’s electric play under center

Tue, 07 Oct 2025 19:00:00 -0700

Jacson goes it alone today to dive into Seattle’s shootout against Tampa Bay, giving both Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold their flowers. He then has an honest conversation about Darnold and how his concerns regarding the acquisition have been assuaged thus far through five weeks.

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Brady Henderson on the 2-1 Seahawks and a dominant win over the Saints

Tue, 23 Sep 2025 20:00:00 -0700

ESPN’s fantastic beat reporter joins the show to review Seattle’s 44-13 win over New Orleans. They dive into Sam Darnold’s fit in Klint Kubiak’s offense, the lagging run game, Jaxon Smith-Njigba’s emergence as one of the game’s great receivers, and a big day for defense and special teams.

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Stacy Rost on Sam Darnold’s debut and Seattle’s Week 1 loss to SF

Mon, 08 Sep 2025 20:00:00 -0700

ESPN Seattle’s excellent host joins Jacson to discuss what went right, went wrong, and how much to read into the Seahawks' opening week loss to the 49ers.

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Michael-Shawn Dugar on Seattle’s dominant preseason win and his new book “The Franchise”

Tue, 19 Aug 2025 19:00:00 -0700

The Athletic’s sensational beat reporter joins the show to break down his new book chronicling the LOB-era Seahawks (2:50) and talk Pete Carroll’s legacy in Seattle through the eyes of those players (17:11). They then dive into Mike Macdonald’s building heading into year two (34:31) and the Seahawks’ emphatic preseason win over the Chiefs (46:52).

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Danny Kelly on Tory Horton, Mike Macdonald & the keys to an A+ fantasy league

Tue, 05 Aug 2025 20:00:00 -0700

The Ringer’s NFL and Fantasy Football expert joins Jacson to recount their appearance on Mina Kimes' live show (2:20), discuss how to level up your fantasy league (7:01), and what to expect from the Seahawks in 2025 (22:22).

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Ben Solak on the Anatomy of an NFL Champion

Mon, 28 Jul 2025 20:00:00 -0700

ESPN’s phenomenal analyst sits down with Jacson to discuss whether the 2024 season has set a blueprint for future Super Bowl success and the non-negotiable of NFL excellence (10:53).

They also break down the contender tiers in the league headed into 2025 in terms of which teams, if any, are positioned to dethrone the Eagles (25:38).

Finally, they wrap up with a discussion of the direction of the Seahawks and where they’re at relative to the rest of the NFL’s best teams (35:25).

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Griffin Sturgeon on Nick Emmanwori’s ceiling and which rookies stand out on tape

Tue, 22 Jul 2025 17:00:00 -0700

Seattle Overload’s domestic tape guru Griffin Sturgeon joins the show to talk replacing Geno with Sam Darnold (8:40), what to expect from Klint Kubiak as OC (23:31), how good the Seahawks defense can be in 2025 (48:07), and a healthy debate on Nick Emmanwori as a prospect (1:17:48).

Griffin and Jacson also dive into the rest of Seattle’s draft class and what Noah Fant’s release might say about Elijah Arroyo (1:40:07).

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Gregg Bell's top 3 training camp storylines for Seattle

Mon, 30 Jun 2025 19:30:00 -0700

The News Tribune’s Seahawks beat reporter sits down with Jacson to give his reaction to the trades involving Geno Smith and DK Metcalf (2:53) before giving us the three things he’s looking for most closely in training camp (22:34).

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Gregg Rosenthal on the 2025 Seahawks Draft Class

Wed, 07 May 2025 20:30:00 -0700

NFL Network’s offseason guru breaks down the Seahawks draft with Jacson, giving his thoughts on Grey Zabel, Nick Emmanwori, Elijah Arroyo, and Jalen Milroe among others (14:38).

The two also discuss whether Seattle’s draft class changes their place among the NFL’s would-be contenders (43:07).

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Charles McDonald on Seattle's mercurial offseason and 2025 NFL contenders

Tue, 25 Mar 2025 18:00:00 -0700

Yahoo’s excellent analyst sits down with Jacson to discuss which teams have had the best and worst offseasons so far (6:48), pinpoint 2025’s legit contenders (46:02), and review the Seahawks’ headline-making last few weeks (1:01:08).

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Robert Mays on Sam Darnold, Cooper Kupp & the NFL’s best front offices

Tue, 18 Mar 2025 20:00:00 -0700

The Athletic’s leading man Robert Mays sits down with Jacson to discuss the best front offices in the NFL and what sets them apart (3:24), the ideal amount of cap space to have (23:06), and John Schneider’s overall track record (26:46).

They also examine the Seahawks’ wild offseason and what it means for their future (35:44).

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Shakeup in Seattle: Sam Darnold in, Geno Smith and DK Metcalf out

Mon, 10 Mar 2025 18:30:00 -0700

Seahawks insider Corbin Smith joins Jacson to discuss swapping out Geno Smith for Sam Darnold(4:35), the DK Metcalf trade (22:36), Ernest Jones / Jarran Reed extensions (29:59), and Seattle’s direction as NFL free agency kicks off (33:20).

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Brock Huard on the NFL Combine and Seattle's QB of the Future

Mon, 03 Mar 2025 16:40:00 -0700

The former quarterback and current Seattle radio mainstay joins to talk NFL Combine (4:22), where the Seahawks rank in NFLPA report cards (19:40), and his feelings on how the franchise is positioned heading into the 2025 season (25:30).

Jacson and Brock also discuss what Seattle can do to plan for life after Geno Smith (30:35) and whether the team should actually consider trading DK Metcalf (34:04).

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Jacson recaps the Super Bowl and breaks down Seattle hiring Klint Kubiak as OC

Wed, 12 Feb 2025 18:30:00 -0700

Jacson flies solo today, breaking down the Eagles' domination of the Chiefs, the Philadelphia blueprint, and gives love to Jalen Hurts (2:47). He also revisits his Super Bowl bets (13:53) and gives his thoughts on new Seahawks OC Klint Kubiak (18:49).

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Super Bowl Prop Bets with Dave "Softy" Mahler

Wed, 05 Feb 2025 19:00:00 -0700

KJR’s bombastic radio host and fellow degenerate joins Jacson to discuss their favorite prop bets for Sunday’s big game (3:33), including total field goal yardage, jersey number of touchdown scorers, 4th down bets, the color of the winning team’s Gatorade, and Super Bowl MVP.

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Mike Golic Jr. on the NFL’s Final Four and what the Seahawks can learn from them

Wed, 22 Jan 2025 20:00:00 -0700

DraftKings’ brilliant analyst and former All-American OL breaks down the Divisional Round games with Jacson (7:10) and details how each of the four remaining teams can win on Sunday (31:43).

Plus, what does Seattle need to do to reach the level of the remaining teams in the playoffs (1:03:04).

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Danny Heifetz on NFL Divisional Weekend, Geno Smith, and the true cost of tanking

Wed, 15 Jan 2025 19:30:00 -0700

The Ringer’s inimitable genius discusses the realities of tanking in the NFL with Jacson (4:21), gives his thoughts on Geno Smith (16:00), and ranks the remaining playoff trend in terms of who he’d risk it all on (36:51). Plus, who he’d give his MVP vote to (1:00:19).

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Season Recap with Michael-Shawn Dugar: Should 2024 be considered a success for the Seahawks?

Wed, 08 Jan 2025 20:30:00 -0700

The Athletic’s award-winning beat reporter debates Jacson on whether the 2024 Seahawks season was successful (4:44), and the two take a magnifying glass to John Schneider’s performance as GM (22:02).

They also discuss offseason priorities, reasons why Ryan Grubb got canned, and the steps Seattle needs to take to become a true contender (41:56). Plus — how much is too much to pay Geno Smith and DK Metcalf (1:11:57)?

Finally, hear who the pair thinks should be MVP and who will beat whom in the Super Bowl (1:43:13).

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Brady Henderson on Seattle's loss to Green Bay, Geno Smith's injury, and Sam Howell's debut

Mon, 16 Dec 2024 20:00:00 -0700

ESPN’s Seahawks beat reporter sits down with Jacson to dissect what went wrong in Seattle’s loss to Green Bay (3:28), discuss the updated playoff possibilities (6:29), talk through Geno Smith’s injury (36:44), and peek ahead to the big decisions awaiting the team this offseason (55:27).

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Sheil Kapadia on Seattle sweeping Arizona and the ferocious NFC West stretch run

Wed, 11 Dec 2024 18:30:00 -0700

The NFL analyst and host of the Ringer NFL Show sits down with Jacson to discuss the Seahawks’ four-game win streak (3:28), whether the defense is for real (7:35), and tell us who Seattle’s best wide receiver (17:12) and running back are (28:06).

They also power-rank the NFC West, place the Seahawks within the NFC landscape, and make Super Bowl predictions (40:13).

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Ben Solak on Seattle's colossal win in SF and the NFC West race

Wed, 20 Nov 2024 09:00:00 -0700

ESPN’s brilliant analyst joins Jacson to break down the Seahawks’ huge win over the 49ers (2:38), offer his prognosis for the NFC West (23:02), give a confidence rating for Seattle’s GM (57:20), and handicap the NFL’s true contenders (1:01:52).

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Gregg Rosenthal on a gunslingin’ Geno Smith, JSN's big day, and a midseason Seahawks vibe check

Wed, 06 Nov 2024 20:00:00 -0700

NFL Network’s senior reporter and the host of NFL Daily joined Jacson to break down the Seahawks-Rams game (4:19), and rank Mike Macdonald, Ryan Grubb, Geno Smith, DK Metcalf, and John Schneider on the Worry-Meter (23:50).

They also analyze Gregg’s QB Island (44:53), which coaches are on the hottest seats (56:00), and discuss the state of the NFC West (1:02:51). The duo closes out with Super Bowl and MVP projections (1:11:33).

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Mina Kimes on the state of the NFC West and previewing Seahawks-Rams

Wed, 30 Oct 2024 19:00:00 -0700

ESPN’s star analyst joins Jacson to break down what went wrong for the Seahawks against the Bills (3:59), whether their shortcomings are fixable (6:36), and the impact of DK Metcalf’s absence (19:18).

They also discuss the biggest surprises in the NFL this season (32:04) and what the Seahawks need to do to beat the Rams on Sunday (47:51).

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Stacy Rost on the Ernest Jones trade and Seattle's convincing win in Atlanta

Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:00:00 -0700

The Seattle Sports 710 radio host joins Jacson to break down the Seahawks big win in Atlanta (11:30), analyze the process behind the Ernest Jones trade (43:47), and preview Seattle’s showdown with the Bills (53:56). Plus, how realistic are the Seahawks chances of winning the NFC West (1:04:31)?

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Bomani Jones on the dichotomy of DK Metcalf, extending Geno Smith, and NFL contenders

Tue, 15 Oct 2024 10:15:00 -0700

The brilliant commentator joins Jacson to weigh in on 2024 NFL trends like whether player-protection rules are actually protecting players (7:28), as well as which teams are contenders or pretenders (14:10). Then, the two of them examine the direction of the Seahawks and to what degree Geno Smith and DK Metcalf should be a part of their future (50:57).

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Jacson on Seattle’s prime-time loss in Detroit and looking forward to the Giants

Tue, 01 Oct 2024 20:00:00 -0700

Jacson flew solo for this one, breaking down every aspect of the Seahawks’ wild loss to the Lions Monday night. Join him as he evaluates Seattle’s defensive struggles (3:54), talks through what’s allowing the Seahawks offense to be so successful (14:31), and gives his thoughts on the officiating down the stretch (37:45). Plus, what has stood out to him the most about Mike Macdonald’s in-game management (43:01).

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Danny Kelly on another Seahawks win, their early NFC West lead, and MNF in Detroit

Mon, 23 Sep 2024 19:00:00 -0700

The Ringer’s gridiron ace and longtime friend of the show joins Jacson to break down what has been a defense-forward start to the NFL season (9:46), how real the Seahawks’ undefeated record really is (19:00), an upcoming primetime bout in Detroit (53:10), and Seattle’s early lead in the NFC West race (1:05:09).

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Mitch Levy on the undefeated Seahawks, their lackluster o-line, and previewing the Dolphins

Tue, 17 Sep 2024 20:00:00 -0700

Seattle radio legend and host of the Mitch Unfiltered podcast joins the show to chop up the Seahawks’ victory over the Patriots (8:46), how he's feeling about Mike Macdonald’s defense (19:35), and the state of the team’s offensive line (26:33), before breaking down an upcoming showdown with the Dolphins (48:09) and the updated NFC West landscape (59:40).

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Mike Golic Jr. on a great start to the Mike Macdonald era

Tue, 10 Sep 2024 20:00:00 -0700

The All-American guard, NFL analyst, and host of the Gojo + Golic podcast joins Jacson and Mike to break down the first week of the NFL season.

They cover whether the things we saw league-wide are outliers or trends (6:55), whether Seattle’s defense is actually as good as they looked or if they benefited from playing a bad team (28:01), and Golic’s opinion of both Geno Smith and Mike Macdonald (50:40). Plus, are the Seahawks contenders or pretenders (1:01:08)?

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Mailbag: Predicting breakout Seahawks, Mike Macdonald’s impact, and much more heading into Week 1

Wed, 04 Sep 2024 20:00:00 -0700

The 2024 NFL season is about to kick off, and we turned to YOU the listeners to answer your most pressing questions about the Seahawks. Jacson and Mike tell you what they think about Seattle’s anticipated target distribution (11:28), who the biggest surprises and disappointments will be (14:50), a baseline for success in Macdonald’s first season (33:30), and how much (if anything) Seattle should pay to extend Geno Smith (39:21). Plus a whole lot more!

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NFC West Preview with Jourdan Rodrigue

Tue, 27 Aug 2024 20:00:00 -0700

The 150th episode of Cigar Thoughts sees The Athletic’s sensational Jourdan Rodrigue sit down with Jacson to discuss the NFC West.

The two of them break down the Cardinals’ feist (16:12), the Rams’ resurgence (28:52), the 49ers’ financial crisis (47:40), and how the rest of the league views the Seahawks’ new look (1:03:40).

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Gregg Bell on Devon Witherspoon’s growth, Seattle’s offensive line, and other training camp insights

Tue, 06 Aug 2024 11:30:00 -0700

The News Tribune’s excellent beat reporter is back to discuss everything he’s seen — good and bad — from Mike Macdonald’s first training camp in Seattle. He and Jacson break down the best players in camp (12:22), where Mike Macdonald’s defense stands as of now (21:49), and what needs to happen in order for the Seahawks to have a successful 2024 season (51:13).

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Dave “Softy” Mahler on Ryan Grubb, Scott Huff, and DK Metcalf’s ceiling

Wed, 31 Jul 2024 12:30:00 -0700

One of the preeminent voices in Seattle sports media joins Jacson and Mike to talk about the vibe-switch in Seahawks training camp (13:15), favorite and least favorite offseason moves (35:01), and expectations for the 2024 season (44:19).

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Michael-Shawn Dugar grades the 2023 Seahawks and evaluates where they’ve improved

Mon, 22 Jul 2024 13:00:00 -0700

The award-winning beat reporter for the Seahawks sits down with Jacson and Mike to answer the biggest questions facing the team as they get ready for the 2024 season (9:26). He also grades various aspects of the team’s performance last year (25:44), and gives his predictions for the upcoming campaign (1:12:12).

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Corbin Smith on a first glimpse of Mike Macdonald’s Seahawks and Jamal Adams in Tennessee

Mon, 15 Jul 2024 20:00:00 -0700

The Seahawks beat reporter and host of the Locked On Seahawks podcast sits down with Jacson and Mike to give his thoughts on Seattle’s offseason thus far. Listen in as the fellas discuss the vibe switch with the new coaches (6:49), the biggest additions and subtractions in free agency (24:34), the Seahawks draft class (39:19), and predictions for the 2024 season (1:00:44).

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Matty Brown on the state of the Seahawks and every pick from their 2024 draft class

Tue, 21 May 2024 18:00:00 -0700

The coach, analyst, and film guru joins Jacson and Mike to break down Seattle’s offseason including whether or not Seattle regressed during free agency (8:06), how the new additions fit (12:18), the disconnect with Jamal Adams (21:42), and a deep dive into their 2024 draft class:

What grade does Matty give the selections of Byron Murphy and Christian Haynes (45:39)? Which Day 3 guys profile as contributors (57:54)?

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Brady Henderson on Byron Murphy's selection, rookie minicamp & Seattle's standing in the NFL

Mon, 13 May 2024 17:00:00 -0700

ESPN’s beat reporter sits down with Jacson and Mike to dig into his behind-the-scenes article on the Seahawks draft process (4:49), whether Seattle is closer to contending than they were last year (28:38), and where they rank among all 32 NFL teams (31:18).

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Sean Clement provides an analytical look into the 2024 NFL Draft

Tue, 07 May 2024 17:00:00 -0700

The former NFL consultant and current VP of Football Analytics for Sumer Sports joins Jacson and Mike to give a peek behind the curtain at how front offices do business. The fellas break down the Seahawks draft (8:35), whether the league's emphasis on rookie QBs has gone too far (24:10), and the philosophical battle between Best Player Available and Positional Value (57:36).

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Nate Tice on Byron Murphy II and the depth of Seattle's draft class

Mon, 29 Apr 2024 17:00:00 -0700

The Athletic’s brilliant NFL analyst joins Jacson and Mike to give his overall thoughts on the 2024 NFL Draft. The fellas break down the quarterback market (6:06), analyze the Seahawks’ draft class (41:18), continue the Adonai Mitchell versus Xavier Worthy debate (59:09), and identify this years winners and losers (1:08:08).

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NFL Draft Spectacular Day 2 with Gregg Rosenthal, Michael Bumpus & Rob Staton

Sat, 27 Apr 2024 01:00:00 -0700

Jacson and Mike are joined by NFL Network’s Gregg Rosenthal, Seahawks Draft Blog’s Rob Staton, and 710 ESPN’s Michael Bumpus to rehash the first round, break down Day 2 picks, and analyze Seattle’s selection of UConn guard Christian Haynes.

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NFL Draft Spectacular with Stacy Rost and Danny O'Neil

Fri, 26 Apr 2024 01:00:00 -0700

Round 1 of the NFL Draft is a wrap! On a night full of surprises, one of the most unique first days in NFL Draft history is in the books. Jacson and Mike were there every step of the way, reacting in real time and breaking everything down with Seattle sports media stars Danny O’Neil and Stacy Rost.

14 straight offensive players! Penix to Atlanta! Six QBs in the first 12 picks! And of course, the Seahawks snagging DL extraordinaire Byron Murphy II.

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Whitewater Drafting: Rome Odunze’s ceiling, Mitchell vs. Worthy, and final pre-draft thoughts

Tue, 23 Apr 2024 19:00:00 -0700

The final installment of the Cigar Thoughts x KJR Whitewater Drafting series features a scintillating mock draft from Chuck (2:06), as well as his and Jacson’s takes on this year’s WR class (29:18). Find out who comes out on top between Marvin Harrison Jr, Malik Nabers, and Rome Odunze and listen to Jacson and Mike debate Xavier Worthy versus Adonai Mitchell. Plus, the #1 thing to keep in mind heading into the 2024 NFL Draft (1:17:27).

PLUS, Jacson and Chuck answer YOUR questions about the draft (1:07:32)!

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Whitewater Drafting: Cooper DeJean in Seattle, the entire QB class in DC, and Kiper’s latest mock draft

Tue, 16 Apr 2024 19:30:00 -0700

Jacson and Chuck break down the latest NFL Draft news (2:53), examine the 2024 class of defensive backs (19:04), and react to the latest mock draft from Mel Kiper and Field Yates (33:03) including what the Seahawks might and should do at 16 (52:32).

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Whitewater Drafting: Spencer Rattler vs. Bo Nix, Junior Colson’s ties to Mike Macdonald, and the 2024 LB class

Wed, 10 Apr 2024 18:30:00 -0700

Jacson and Chuck are back to break down the Spencer Rattler hype (1:54), whether he or Sam Howell are a better fit for the Seahawks (8:54), and which off-ball linebackers Seattle might have their eye on (33:45). Plus, the latest predictions on what the ‘Hawks will do at #16 overall (53:18).

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Whitewater Drafting: Michael Penix’s first round buzz, the 2024 DL class, and Stefon Diggs heading to Houston

Thu, 04 Apr 2024 20:00:00 -0700

Jacson and Chuck discuss the philosophy behind the Stefon Diggs trade (7:56) and Michael Penix Jr’s recent rise (23:37). They also dive into this year’s D-line class (35:28) and break down the Seahawks’ multitude of options at #16 overall (51:53).

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Whitewater Drafting: JJ McCarthy's surge, an historic OL class, and Daniel Jeremiah's latest mock draft

Tue, 26 Mar 2024 19:00:00 -0700

Chuck Powell and Jacson discuss the NFL’s newest rule changes (1:53), how real the JJ McCarthy momentum is (13:30), and whether this O-line class is truly historic (25:54), before reacting pick-by-pick to Daniel Jeremiah’s latest mock draft (34:46).

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Whitewater Drafting: Caleb Williams' majesty, Blake Corum's NFL projection, and the 2024 RB class

Tue, 19 Mar 2024 20:30:00 -0700

Jacson and KJR’s Chuck Powell kick off their NFL Draft miniseries discussing the craziness of the QB market (4:44) and rank the signal callers in the 2024 class (25:05). They also go deep on the shifting RB landscape (44:23), which prospects will be difference makers (54:03), and who they think the Seahawks might draft (1:09:06).

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Free Agency Frenzy: Leonard Williams stays, Jordyn Brooks departs, and the QB carousel continues

Wed, 13 Mar 2024 19:30:00 -0700

Jacson and Mike examine the splashy moves from around the league, including the QB carousel (3:51). They also break down Seattle’s moves in free agency so far (26:19) and dig into exactly how concerned Seahawks fans should be with their relative inactivity thus far (38:06).

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Danny Kelly on Quandre Diggs’ release, the NFL Combine, and potential fits for the Seahawks in the draft

Thu, 07 Mar 2024 15:30:00 -0700

The Ringer’s NFL Draft expert sits down with Jacson and Mike to discuss his experience at the NFL Combine (6:39) as well as Seattle cutting Quandre Diggs and Jamal Adams (27:31). Also, the fellas rap about how the draft is shaping up and the Seahawks’ approach as they enter a new era (33:42).

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Corbin Smith on Seattle's new coaching staff, the Combine, and NFLPA Report Cards

Wed, 28 Feb 2024 19:00:00 -0700

The intrepid Seahawks beat reporter joins Jacson and Mike from the NFL Combine to discuss Seattle’s NFLPA report card (8:36), their new coaching staff (18:56), whether Geno Smith is still the guy (44:23), offseason priorities (56:54), and more.

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Steven Ruiz on Super Bowl LVIII, Ryan Grubb, and Geno Smith’s future in Seattle

Tue, 13 Feb 2024 19:30:00 -0700

The Ringer’s NFL guru is back to break down the minutiae that decided Super Bowl 58 (19:04) and the effect it had on the legacies of those involved (26:36). He also gives us his thoughts on the Seahawks hiring Mike Macdonald (40:18), the potential of offensive coordinator Ryan Grubb (43:05), and where Geno Smith ranks in his pantheon of quarterbacks (51:41). All that and more in the season finale of Cigar Thoughts.

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Bob Condotta on the Mike Macdonald hire, OC candidates, and a Super Bowl preview

Tue, 06 Feb 2024 18:30:00 -0700

The Godfather of the Seahawks beat sits down with Jacson and Mike to break down what Mike Macdonald’s impact on the Seahawks future is (8:03), forecast who their offensive coordinator might be (28:23), and chop up the Super Bowl matchup between the Chiefs and 49ers (54:10).

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Emergency Show: Mike Macdonald hired as head coach of the Seattle Seahawks

Wed, 31 Jan 2024 22:30:00 -0700

Jacson and Mike break down the hiring of Mike Macdonald, his path to Seahawks head coach (2:16), what it means for Seattle moving forward (10:51), and who may join the staff as offensive coordinator (29:44).

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Brady Henderson on Seattle’s coaching search and how Geno Smith stacks up against NFC quarterbacks

Wed, 24 Jan 2024 18:00:00 -0700

ESPN’s Seahawks beat reporter goes deep with Jacson and Mike on an underwhelming 2023 season in Seattle (7:27), how Geno stacks up against other QBs in the conference (16:15), the team’s coaching search (26:55), and how the NFL playoffs are reinforcing what’s necessary for the Seahawks to regain the status of a true contender (33:51).

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Mina Kimes on Pete Carroll's legacy and what comes next for the Seahawks

Thu, 11 Jan 2024 17:15:00 -0700

ESPN’s fantastic analyst stops by to talk through the shocking end of Pete Carroll’s tenure in Seattle (16:31), who might be next in line (25:34), what John Schneider and the Seahawks should prioritize this offseason (41:22), and how she as a fan is feeling during tumultuous times such as these (49:03).

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Cigar Thoughts, Game 17: Seahawks win, Seahawks lose

Tue, 09 Jan 2024 20:00:00 -0700

The Seattle Seahawks won a thrilling game against the Arizona Cardinals to finish 9-8, but miss the playoffs in the process.

Jacson recounts the season-ending victory, evaluates the performance of Seattle's stars, and parses what will be a fascinating offseason for the Seahawks.

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Griffin Sturgeon on Geno Smith’s clutch factor, Shane Waldron’s performance, and Mike Tomlin’s Steelers

Tue, 26 Dec 2023 12:30:00 -0700

The scheme guru and Seattle Overload football analyst breaks down the Seahawks’ heart-stopping win over the Titans (7:10) and engages in a deep dive into Seattle’s offensive coordinator Shane Waldron (27:04). He and Jacson also break down the upcoming game against the Steelers (58:06), and how the ‘Hawks match up with the NFC’s playoff contenders (1:10:19).

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Ben Solak on Drew Lock’s moment, the magic of Pete Carroll, and a crowded NFC race

Wed, 20 Dec 2023 13:30:00 -0700

The Ringer’s NFL writer and savant sits down with Jacson and Mike to discuss the Seahawks’ wild win over the Eagles (10:53), whether Drew Lock or Geno Smith should be the starter moving forward (15:09), and Pete Carroll’s impact on ending Seattle’s four-game losing streak (40:28). The fellas also break down the Seahawks’ upcoming matchup with the Titans (46:17), and try to make sense of a confusing NFC playoff picture (55:37).

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Cigar Thoughts, Game 14: A Monday Night Miracle

Tue, 19 Dec 2023 15:00:00 -0700

The Seattle Seahawks stunned the Philadelphia Eagles with a 92-yard, game-winning touchdown drive in the final minute.

Jacson talks through Seattle's down-to-the-wire victory, a clutch evening from the wide receivers, a bounce-back performance from the defense, and much more.

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Sheil Kapadia on Seahawks-Eagles and the DROY race between Devon Witherspoon and Jalen Carter

Tue, 12 Dec 2023 19:00:00 -0700

The former Seahawks beat reporter, current Ringer NFL dynamo, and Philly native joins the fellas to break down Seattle’s loss to the 49ers (7:12). They also dive into how fixable the Seahawks’ issues are (9:02), how Seattle can beat the Eagles on Monday (32:25), and whether Devon Witherspoon or Jalen Carter should win Defensive Rookie of the Year (41:01).

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Cigar Thoughts, Game 13: Seahawks heroically cover spread against 49ers

Mon, 11 Dec 2023 22:00:00 -0700

The San Francisco 49ers outlasted the Seattle Seahawks, winning 28-16.

Jacson breaks down Seattle's fourth consecutive loss, what it means for the rest of 2023, and how we should be viewing the franchise in the grand scheme of things.

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Tell the Truth Monday with Gregg Bell

Mon, 04 Dec 2023 16:00:00 -0700

The hard-hitting beat reporter breaks down Seattle's loss to the Cowboys (6:56) and rates the Seahawks 1-10 in terms of play-calling, QB, blocking, defense, and coaching (32:53) in a much needed vibe-check episode.

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Cigar Thoughts, Game 12: thisclose

Sun, 03 Dec 2023 09:00:00 -0700

The Seattle Seahawks dropped a wild one in Dallas, losing 41-35 to the Cowboys and falling to 6-6 in the process.

Jacson parses the Thursday night particulars including big nights from Geno Smith and DK Metcalf, the return of Abraham Lucas, and a whole bunch of what-ifs.

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Cigar Thoughts, Game 11: Juiceless

Fri, 24 Nov 2023 15:30:00 -0700

The Seattle Seahawks got their butts whooped by the 49ers in front of friends, family, and the entire country.

Jacson breaks out of his tryptophanic coma to break down the primetime no-show by the Seahawks.

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Mailbag: Jacson and Mike talk Shane Waldron and look ahead to hosting the 49ers on Thanksgiving

Mon, 20 Nov 2023 15:45:00 -0700

Mike and Jacson respond to your questions and concerns about the Seahawks, including Geno Smith vs Drew Lock (7:43), late defensive lapses (22:14), Shane Waldron (37:24), and Seattle’s chances against the Niners on Thanksgiving (52:16).

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Cigar Thoughts, Game 10: Seahawks’ lack of discipline finally costs them

Mon, 20 Nov 2023 11:30:00 -0700

Self-inflicted wounds, from coaches and players, cripple the Seattle Seahawks in a 17-16 loss to the Los Angeles Rams.

Jacson makes sense of the baffling loss and each moment that led to such a deflating outcome in his latest recap and analysis.

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Michael Bumpus on beating the Commanders, Geno Smith and DK Metcalf bouncing back, and the looming Rams

Mon, 13 Nov 2023 18:00:00 -0700

The former NFL WR and current analyst sits down in the Lounge to chop up the Seahawks’ close win over the Commanders, and whether Geno Smith and the offense have turned the corner (6:56). Also, is Seattle’s defense good enough (27:46)? How likely is it that they beat the Rams on Sunday (35:20)? And what can we expect from this team moving forward (44:20)?

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Cigar Thoughts, Game 9: Seahawks land the final punch in brawl with Commanders

Mon, 13 Nov 2023 13:00:00 -0700

The Seattle Seahawks beat the Commanders 29-26 on a last-second field goal, moving to 6-3 and staying tied for first in the NFC West.

Jacson breaks down Seattle's last-second victory, a bounceback day from Geno and DK, as well as much more.

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Brock Huard on the beatdown in Baltimore, Geno Smith's recent play, and a look at Seahawks-Commanders

Mon, 06 Nov 2023 14:30:00 -0700

The former NFL QB and current analyst enters the lounge to make sense of Seattle’s one-sided loss to Baltimore. They break down what went wrong (4:45), whether Geno Smith can turn his recent play around (14:08), the issues with the defense (21:49), and more. Plus, they look ahead to this week’s game against the Commanders (27:32) and what Seattle’s season outlook is after the loss (37:31).

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Cigar Thoughts, Game 8: Ravens CTRL+ALT+DELETE the Seahawks

Sun, 05 Nov 2023 22:30:00 -0700

The Baltimore Ravens outplayed the Seattle Seahawks in every facet of the game, handing Seattle their worst loss in the Pete Carroll era.

Jacson processes the team's demolition and what can be gleaned from it that is predictive of the rest of 2023.

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Corbin Smith on the NFC West arms race, JSN’s game-winner, and a heavyweight bout with the Ravens

Tue, 31 Oct 2023 18:45:00 -0700

The Seahawks beat reporter breaks down the mammoth trade for Leonard Williams (6:06), Seattle’s thrilling win over the Browns on Throwback Day (21:17), what’s clicking on defense (40:56), and what to expect from this week’s showdown with the Ravens (54:41).

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Cigar Thoughts, Game 7: Seahawks honor their heritage with heart-stopping victory on Throwback Day

Mon, 30 Oct 2023 01:00:00 -0700

The Seattle Seahawks scored the game-winning touchdown with less than a minute left to beat the Cleveland Browns 24-20, moving into first place in the NFC West.

Jacson talks through an up-and-down day from Geno Smith, a superhuman effort from the o-line, and Jaxon Smith-Njigba’s big moment.

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Steve Raible on Seahawks history, a big game from JSN and Bobo, and how Seattle can beat Cleveland

Tue, 24 Oct 2023 18:30:00 -0700

Perhaps no man has been more closely aligned with the full history of the Seahawks franchise than Steve Raible. The former Seattle receiver and current play-by-play man joins Jacson and Mike to talk about the evolution of the game (4:34), the team’s win against Arizona (13:48), the strengths of the offense (19:06) and defense (42:29), and preview the upcoming showdown with the Browns (54:08).

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Cigar Thoughts, Game 6: Big beaks > tiny beaks

Mon, 23 Oct 2023 07:00:00 -0700

The Seahawks defense has been elite for a month and it carried the team to its fourth win on Sunday, besting a scrappy Cardinals team 20-10. Jacson dives into the unit's resurgence, another dominant performance from Devon Witherspoon, the emergence of Jaxon Smith-Njigba and Jake Bobo, and what Seattle needs to do to compete with the NFC's best.

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Michael-Shawn Dugar on Seattle’s close loss in Cincinnati, how Geno Smith really played, and the upcoming battle with the Cardinals

Wed, 18 Oct 2023 20:45:00 -0700

The Athletic’s stellar reporter joins the fellas to break down what went wrong against the Bengals (8:01), the two sides of the DK Metcalf coin (25:47), whether Geno Smith is still the guy (39:13), a defensive resurgence (47:12), and an inbound game against the Cardinals (59:28). Also, do we need to adjust our expectations for the rest of the season (1:07:48)?

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John Boyle on Seattle’s bye week, the intangible impact of Bobby Wagner’s return, and the remarkable energy surrounding the team

Mon, 09 Oct 2023 12:00:00 -0700

The Seahawks senior reporter sits down with the fellas to discuss how the team handles the bye week (4:29), update us on Seattle’s injuries (6:05), and break down the effect certain players are having on the team’s success (15:36). Plus, a preview of the showdown with the Bengals (38:56) and how the Seahawks matchup with the rest of the NFC (47:59).

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Dick Fain on Devon Witherspoon’s prime-time rampage, the Seahawks' suddenly dominant defense, and a blowout win over the Giants

Tue, 03 Oct 2023 13:15:00 -0700

KJR’s sports talk radio host sits down with Jacson and Mike to chop up Seattle’s huge Monday night victory in New York (4:10), defensive studs stepping up (15:37), the offense’s identity and adaptability (33:55), and where the Seahawks slot in compared to the NFL’s best teams (58:51).

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Cigar Thoughts, Game 4: Seahawks defense serves up a beatdown with their spoon

Tue, 03 Oct 2023 07:45:00 -0700

The Seahawks must really love playing in New York. On Monday Night Football, Pete Carroll and company beat down a hapless Giants team 24-3 that saw rookie dynamo Devon Witherspoon emphatically announce his arrival and the defense rack up 11 total sacks. Through the first quartile of the season, Seattle sits at 3-1 with a chance to ride the vibes and finally get healthy. Jacson breaks all of this down and more in his first primetime recap of the year.

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Stacy Rost on the 2013 championship team, the Seahawks’ win over the Panthers, and how they can beat the Giants

Tue, 26 Sep 2023 20:30:00 -0700

Seattle Sports 710’s radio host and one of our very favorite people joins Jacson and Mike to discuss the return of the 2013 Super Bowl champions (3:51), Seattle’s defensive evolution (11:15), offensive outlook (33:30), and what to look forward to on Monday night against the Giants (1:00:51).

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Cigar Thoughts, Game 3: Seahawks play with their food before devouring Panthers

Mon, 25 Sep 2023 19:30:00 -0700

Another week, another win for the Seahawks. With Andy Dalton spelling Carolina's #1 overall pick under center, Seattle dominated the trenches on their way to a 2-1 record. Jacson breaks down a promising showing from Seattle's running game, pass rush, and rookie stud Devon Witherspoon in a second consecutive victory recap.

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Danny Kelly on the Seahawks’ thrilling win in Detroit, Devon Witherspoon's debut, and previewing the Panthers

Thu, 21 Sep 2023 12:00:00 -0700

The Ringer’s NFL writer celebrates Cigar Thoughts’ 100th episode with the fellas by recapping Seattle’s wild win against the Lions (3:43). They also take a look at how the offense has evolved, including the contributions from Geno (11:48), the receivers (17:32), and Ken Walker (28:24). They also discuss Devon Witherspoon’s debut (37:56), Tre Brown’s incredible performance (44:17), and preview the matchup with the Carolina Panthers (52:03).

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Cigar Thoughts, Game 2: Seahawks kick doubters in the nuts, beat Lions in OT thriller

Mon, 18 Sep 2023 15:00:00 -0700

After a Week 1 dud, the Seahawks are officially in the win column. Traveling to Detroit shorthanded, Seattle put together a monstrous overtime dub against a stout Lions team that had rest and vibes on their side. Jacson breaks down performances from Geno Smith, Tyler Lockett, and many others in the first victory column of the season.

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Kevin Burkhardt on the Seahawks' loss to the Rams, an upcoming clash with the Lions, and expectations for the rest of the season

Wed, 13 Sep 2023 18:00:00 -0700

The lead play-by-play man for the NFL on Fox joins the fellas to discuss how much stock he puts into a Week 1 loss to LA (5:22), what the Seahawks have to do to earn a win in Detroit (10:40), and what the expectations for Seattle should be the rest of the way (22:20). Plus Jacson and Mike break down the Seahawks' injuries , performance , and vibes (24:12).

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2023 Season Preview with Danny O’Neil

Tue, 05 Sep 2023 16:30:00 -0700

The Seattle sports media stalwart joins Jacson and Mike to break down the Seahawks’ offense (4:57), defense (37:20), and chances at winning the NFC West (53:03). They also give their predictions (59:53) for every division winner, Super Bowl, MVP, and more!

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Mailbag: Jacson and Mike talk Jake Bobo, Jonathan Taylor, Seahawks sack leaders, and much more

Wed, 23 Aug 2023 17:00:00 -0700

Jacson and Mike discuss Seattle’s preseason game against the Cowboys (2:32) and Richard Sherman’s candid conversation with Pete Carroll (10:54) before answering your burning questions. Topics include Bobo Mania (19:35), a potential trade target (22:19), what to do with the secondary depth (30:17), the pass rushers and Levi Bell (43:22), whether Drew Lock is the QBotF-in-waiting (49:40), which Seahawks are poised to make “the leap” (58:32), and a whole lot more!

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Matty Brown on Seattle’s first preseason game and what it tells us about the 2023 Seahawks

Tue, 15 Aug 2023 19:30:00 -0700

The Xs and Os guru joins Jacson and Mike to discuss key takeaways from Seattle’s first preseason game including the evolution of the defensive scheme (8:14), players who stood out (15:24), and lingering concerns (35:31). We also recap the Seahawks offseason with thoughts on free agent additions and departures (45:40), plus the early returns on this year’s draft class (1:05:42).

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Positional Breakdowns - Antonio Cromartie on Seattle's DBs

Tue, 08 Aug 2023 15:30:00 -0700

The All Pro defensive back lights up and sits down with Jacson and Mike to discuss what makes a DB successful in the NFL (3:35), his love for Riq Woolen (19:32), and the depth of Seattle’s secondary including Devon Witherspoon (27:10), Quandre Diggs (36:08), and Jamal Adams (40:41). Plus, why Cro thinks this year’s Seahawks team will be even better (53:04).

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Positional Breakdowns - Dave Wyman on Seattle's LBs

Wed, 02 Aug 2023 14:30:00 -0700

The former Seahawks linebacker and current sports talk host digs into Seattle’s defense, focusing on the linebacker position. He and Jacson talk about the way the game has changed over the years (3:00), the impact of Bobby Wagner’s return (18:51), Jordyn Brooks’ ceiling (26:15), the addition of Devin Bush (37:00), and what the Seattle defensive scheme could look like in 2023 (44:52).

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Positional Breakdowns - Charles McDonald on Seattle's DL

Wed, 19 Jul 2023 16:00:00 -0700

The former collegiate defensive lineman and current NFL writer for Yahoo gets into the weeds on the Seahawks’ DL, including misconceptions about the position (12:24), the impact of Dre’mont Jones on guys like Darrell Taylor and Uchenna Nwosu (33:15), the rest of the depth chart (45:58), and which scheme best suits Seattle’s personnel (52:04).

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Positional Breakdowns - Michael-Shawn Dugar on Seattle's RBs

Tue, 11 Jul 2023 14:30:00 -0700

The Athletic’s beat reporter sits down with Jacson and Mike to chop up the Seahawks backfield, including the rationale behind drafting Zach Charbonnet (8:55), how he sees that impacting Ken Walker's usage (25:37), what it means for Seattle’s offensive philosophy (40:51), and how Deejay Dallas and Kenny McIntosh fit into the picture (59:13).

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Positional Breakdowns - Colby Parkinson on Seattle's TEs

Wed, 28 Jun 2023 17:00:00 -0700

The Seahawks tight end and cigar enthusiast joins Jacson and Mike to discuss his “welcome to the NFL” moment (8:09), the intricacies of the position (9:20), and the unique strengths that he, Noah Fant, and Will Dissly offer (13:31). Plus, Colby breaks down his game-winning TD against the Broncos in the 2022 season opener (28:50).

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Positional Breakdowns - Michael Bumpus on Seattle's WRs

Wed, 21 Jun 2023 19:00:00 -0700

The former NFL wideout and current sports talk show host dives into the Seahawks receiving group with Jacson and Mike. They chop up the intricacies of receiver play (4:59) and take in-depth looks at Tyler Lockett (13:15), DK Metcalf (21:21), Jaxon Smith-Njigba (29:02), and the rest of Seattle’s receiver room (41:37). Plus, Bump tells us where the Seahawks WR corps ranks in the NFL (50:36).

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Positional Breakdowns - Mina Kimes on Seattle's QBs

Wed, 14 Jun 2023 18:00:00 -0700

ESPN’s brilliant analyst chops up the evolution of the quarterback position (3:37), debates her QB rankings with Jacson (11:34), discusses Drew Lock (33:17), goes deep on Geno Smith (37:01), and previews the 2024 quarterback class (46:10).

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Positional Breakdowns - Walter Jones on Seattle’s OL

Wed, 07 Jun 2023 13:30:00 -0700

The Hall of Fame left tackle joins Jacson and Mike to discuss the keys to his success (3:23), the evolution of football since his playing days (5:28), his thoughts on Charles Cross and Abraham Lucas (11:49), how Seattle’s interior line can improve (16:24), and his expectations for the Seahawks in 2023 (27:52).

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Mailbag: Jacson and Mike talk rookie class, future captaincy, fantasy impact, and the ceiling for the 2023 Seahawks

Tue, 23 May 2023 20:30:00 -0700

The fellas respond to listener questions regarding the future of the QB position in Seattle (2:45), NFC West win totals (22:29), which young players are most likely to eventually become captains (33:59), which Seahawks are the best bets in fantasy (37:05), how far this team can go in the playoffs (43:19), and more!

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Bob Condotta on a Seahawks offseason vibe check and impressions from rookie minicamp

Wed, 17 May 2023 15:30:00 -0700

The Seahawks reporter for the Seattle Times enters the lounge to discuss how Seattle’s approach to the draft was different this time around (2:54), where things stand after rookie minicamp (16:31), what the defense may look like in 2023 (40:04), and who are stepping up as leaders in the locker room (45:43). Plus, a big prediction from Bob (52:21)!

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Doug Farrar breaks down the 2023 Seahawks draft class

Thu, 04 May 2023 15:00:00 -0700

USA Today’s NFL editor and draft guru analyzes each of Seattle’s draft picks including whether Devin Witherspoon is the best defensive player in the draft (8:53) and how Jaxon Smith-Njigba can unlock the Seahawks offense (18:38). Plus, a stunning Zach Charbonnet comp (36:37).

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Official Cigar Release Show!

Mon, 01 May 2023 21:00:00 -0700

Following a thrilling Seahawks draft over the weekend, Jacson and Mike announce the exclusive launch of official Cigar Thoughts cigars.

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