<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><?xml-stylesheet href="https://feeds.captivate.fm/style.xsl" type="text/xsl"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:googleplay="http://www.google.com/schemas/play-podcasts/1.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" xmlns:podcast="https://podcastindex.org/namespace/1.0"><channel><atom:link href="https://feeds.captivate.fm/deathwithoutdebt/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><title><![CDATA[Death Without Debt]]></title><podcast:guid>f4c29a95-dce0-570e-a586-b20700251875</podcast:guid><lastBuildDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2025 23:22:19 +0000</lastBuildDate><generator>Captivate.fm</generator><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><copyright><![CDATA[Copyright 2025 Get Flushed Ltd]]></copyright><managingEditor>Get Flushed Ltd</managingEditor><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Death Without Debt NZ is dedicated to creating a future where the cost of dying doesn't add to the burden of grief.

In the current Death, Burial and Cremation review we currently have a 1:60 year opportunity to break the hold the funeral industry has over New Zealanders. This chance must not be wasted.  Together, we can make a difference and ensure that every New Zealander can say goodbye to their loved ones without worrying about debt.

To find out more about the Death Without Debt campaign, please visit https://www.deathwithoutdebt.org]]></itunes:summary><image><url>https://artwork.captivate.fm/afbd4ab9-3ba2-4877-b5a4-acc08e685d83/BlDkqHCvrTa6MVSVxg7_C7N0.jpg</url><title>Death Without Debt</title><link><![CDATA[https://deathwithoutdebt.captivate.fm]]></link></image><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/afbd4ab9-3ba2-4877-b5a4-acc08e685d83/BlDkqHCvrTa6MVSVxg7_C7N0.jpg"/><itunes:owner><itunes:name>Get Flushed Ltd</itunes:name></itunes:owner><itunes:author>Get Flushed Ltd</itunes:author><description>Death Without Debt NZ is dedicated to creating a future where the cost of dying doesn&apos;t add to the burden of grief.

In the current Death, Burial and Cremation review we currently have a 1:60 year opportunity to break the hold the funeral industry has over New Zealanders. This chance must not be wasted.  Together, we can make a difference and ensure that every New Zealander can say goodbye to their loved ones without worrying about debt.

To find out more about the Death Without Debt campaign, please visit https://www.deathwithoutdebt.org</description><link>https://deathwithoutdebt.captivate.fm</link><atom:link href="https://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com" rel="hub"/><itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Making Funerals Affordable]]></itunes:subtitle><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:type>episodic</itunes:type><itunes:category text="Society &amp; Culture"><itunes:category text="Documentary"/></itunes:category><itunes:category text="Business"><itunes:category text="Non-Profit"/></itunes:category><itunes:category text="Education"><itunes:category text="How To"/></itunes:category><podcast:locked>no</podcast:locked><podcast:medium>podcast</podcast:medium><item><title>Te Roopu Moana - Rangiwhanui Tangihanga Services</title><itunes:title>Te Roopu Moana - Rangiwhanui Tangihanga Services</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Pete talks with Te Roopu Moana, a funeral professional who brings a wealth of knowledge from both traditional Māori and contemporary funeral practices.</p><p>Te Roopu reflects on her formative experiences with death and dying, recounting how her childhood was steeped in the customs of Tangihanga, where she witnessed firsthand the intricate ways families grieve and celebrate their loved ones. This background ignited her curiosity about the  funeral industry and the hidden practices that often go unspoken.</p><p>In this episode, Te Roopu describes the  differences between Māori and Pākehā funeral practices and explains how traditional Maori tangihanga  incorporated cultural values such as whānau (family) support, aroha (compassion), and manaakitanga (care for others). She advocates for a DIY approach to funerals, emphasizing the importance of empowering families to engage directly in the care of their loved ones. This empowerment is not just about financial savings; it is also about restoring dignity and personal connection to the process of mourning and remembrance, allowing families to celebrate lives authentically and in accordance with their cultural beliefs.</p><p>The episode takes a critical look at how the funeral industry in New Zealand evolved in the wake of collonisation and commercialization. Te Roopu shares insights from her academic research, revealing the detrimental effects of modern practices on traditional Māori values and the emotional well-being of families. She calls for a revival of traditional death care practices, urging listeners to educate themselves and their communities about their rights and options when it comes to funerals. </p><p>This episode serves as both a reflection on personal experiences and a rallying cry for change, encouraging families to reclaim their narratives around death and dying, fostering a culture of understanding, respect, and empowerment in the face of loss.</p><p>Takeaways:</p><ul><li> The funeral industry in New Zealand is increasingly commercialized, often neglecting traditional Maori practices. </li><li> Te Roopu emphasizes the importance of DIY funerals to empower families in their grieving process. </li><li> Many families are unaware they can take control of their loved one's death care. </li><li> Traditional Maori funerals used natural resources and cultural practices for body preservation. </li><li> Te Roopu's research highlights the loss of traditional knowledge due to colonisation and commercialisation. </li></ul><br/><p>Links referenced in this episode:</p><ul><li><a href="https://deathwithoutdebt.org.nz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">deathwithoutdebt.org.nz</a></li><li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61566480125252" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rangiwhanui Tangihanga Services</a></li></ul><br/><p>Contact Te Roopu <a href="mailto:admin@rangiwhanui.co.nz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">admin@rangiwhanui.co.nz</a></p><p><strong>Glossary</strong></p><p><strong>kaiārahi </strong>(noun) guide, escort, counsellor, conductor, escort, leader, mentor, pilot, usher.</p><p><strong>kaumātua</strong> (noun)&nbsp;adult, elder, elderly man, elderly woman, old man - a person of status within the&nbsp;whānau.</p><p><strong>tangihanga</strong> (noun) weeping, crying, funeral, rites for the dead, obsequies - one of the most important institutions in Māori society, with strong cultural imperatives and protocols. Most <em>tangihanga</em> are held on marae. The body is brought onto the marae by the <em>whānau</em> of the deceased and lies in state in an open coffin for about three days in a <em>wharemate</em>. During that time groups of visitors come onto the marae to farewell the deceased with speech making and song. Greenery is the traditional symbol of death, so the women and chief mourners often wear <em>pare kawakawa</em> on their heads. On the night before the burial visitors and locals gather to have a <em>pō mihimihi</em>to]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete talks with Te Roopu Moana, a funeral professional who brings a wealth of knowledge from both traditional Māori and contemporary funeral practices.</p><p>Te Roopu reflects on her formative experiences with death and dying, recounting how her childhood was steeped in the customs of Tangihanga, where she witnessed firsthand the intricate ways families grieve and celebrate their loved ones. This background ignited her curiosity about the  funeral industry and the hidden practices that often go unspoken.</p><p>In this episode, Te Roopu describes the  differences between Māori and Pākehā funeral practices and explains how traditional Maori tangihanga  incorporated cultural values such as whānau (family) support, aroha (compassion), and manaakitanga (care for others). She advocates for a DIY approach to funerals, emphasizing the importance of empowering families to engage directly in the care of their loved ones. This empowerment is not just about financial savings; it is also about restoring dignity and personal connection to the process of mourning and remembrance, allowing families to celebrate lives authentically and in accordance with their cultural beliefs.</p><p>The episode takes a critical look at how the funeral industry in New Zealand evolved in the wake of collonisation and commercialization. Te Roopu shares insights from her academic research, revealing the detrimental effects of modern practices on traditional Māori values and the emotional well-being of families. She calls for a revival of traditional death care practices, urging listeners to educate themselves and their communities about their rights and options when it comes to funerals. </p><p>This episode serves as both a reflection on personal experiences and a rallying cry for change, encouraging families to reclaim their narratives around death and dying, fostering a culture of understanding, respect, and empowerment in the face of loss.</p><p>Takeaways:</p><ul><li> The funeral industry in New Zealand is increasingly commercialized, often neglecting traditional Maori practices. </li><li> Te Roopu emphasizes the importance of DIY funerals to empower families in their grieving process. </li><li> Many families are unaware they can take control of their loved one's death care. </li><li> Traditional Maori funerals used natural resources and cultural practices for body preservation. </li><li> Te Roopu's research highlights the loss of traditional knowledge due to colonisation and commercialisation. </li></ul><br/><p>Links referenced in this episode:</p><ul><li><a href="https://deathwithoutdebt.org.nz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">deathwithoutdebt.org.nz</a></li><li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61566480125252" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rangiwhanui Tangihanga Services</a></li></ul><br/><p>Contact Te Roopu <a href="mailto:admin@rangiwhanui.co.nz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">admin@rangiwhanui.co.nz</a></p><p><strong>Glossary</strong></p><p><strong>kaiārahi </strong>(noun) guide, escort, counsellor, conductor, escort, leader, mentor, pilot, usher.</p><p><strong>kaumātua</strong> (noun)&nbsp;adult, elder, elderly man, elderly woman, old man - a person of status within the&nbsp;whānau.</p><p><strong>tangihanga</strong> (noun) weeping, crying, funeral, rites for the dead, obsequies - one of the most important institutions in Māori society, with strong cultural imperatives and protocols. Most <em>tangihanga</em> are held on marae. The body is brought onto the marae by the <em>whānau</em> of the deceased and lies in state in an open coffin for about three days in a <em>wharemate</em>. During that time groups of visitors come onto the marae to farewell the deceased with speech making and song. Greenery is the traditional symbol of death, so the women and chief mourners often wear <em>pare kawakawa</em> on their heads. On the night before the burial visitors and locals gather to have a <em>pō mihimihi</em>to celebrate the person's life with informal speeches and song. In modern times, on the final day the coffin is closed and a church service is held before the body is taken to the cemetery for burial. A <em>takahi whare</em> ritual is held at the decease's home and a <em>hākari</em> concludes the <em>tangihanga</em>.</p><p><strong>tikanga </strong>(noun)&nbsp;correct procedure, custom, habit, lore, method, manner, rule, way, code, meaning, plan, practice, convention, protocol - the customary system of values and practices that have developed over time and are deeply embedded in the social context&nbsp;</p><p><strong>tūpāpaku</strong> (noun) corpse, deceased, cadaver, deceased person's body.</p><p><strong>whakapapa </strong>(noun) genealogy, genealogical table, lineage, descent - reciting <em>whakapapa</em> was, and is, an important skill and reflected the importance of genealogies in Māori society in terms of leadership, land and fishing rights, kinship and status. It is central to all Māori institutions. There are different terms for the types of <em>whakapapa</em>and the different ways of reciting them including: <em>tāhū</em> (recite a direct line of ancestry through only the senior line); <em>whakamoe</em> (recite a genealogy including males and their spouses); <em>taotahi</em> (recite genealogy in a single line of descent); <em>hikohiko</em> (recite genealogy in a selective way by not following a single line of descent); <em>ure tārewa</em> (male line of descent through the first-born male in each generation)</p><p><strong>whānau</strong> (noun)&nbsp;extended family, family group, a familiar term of address to a number of people - the primary economic unit of traditional Māori society. In the modern context the term is sometimes used to include friends who may not have any kinship ties to other members.</p><p><strong>whare</strong> (noun) house, building, residence, dwelling, shed, hut, habitation.</p><p>(From https://www.maoridictionary.co.nz/)</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://deathwithoutdebt.captivate.fm/episode/te-roopu-moana]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">d3e2e5ae-6d74-4333-8447-2a16f18940d8</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/10c5db82-34d1-4560-9c8b-e674bd8b1155/15fO7TDR9EqxrZSYOYDDmJ_B.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Get Flushed Ltd]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 08 Oct 2024 09:00:00 +1300</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/27c138c6-abe9-4e9a-a948-0718dd624407/DWD2-3.mp3" length="34597120" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>36:02</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>2</podcast:episode><itunes:author>Get Flushed Ltd</itunes:author><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/7d467d73-480a-489f-be94-ac71404848c1/transcript.json" type="application/json"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/7d467d73-480a-489f-be94-ac71404848c1/transcript.srt" type="application/srt" rel="captions"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/7d467d73-480a-489f-be94-ac71404848c1/index.html" type="text/html"/><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-27c138c6-abe9-4e9a-a948-0718dd624407.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>The True Cost of Dying with Fergus Wheeler</title><itunes:title>The True Cost of Dying with Fergus Wheeler</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Death Without debt is a new podcast from the Get Flushed studio.</p><p>In 2023, the average cost of a basic funeral or cremation in New Zealand was between $8,000 and $15,000.  That same year, 64% of funerals and cremations in New Zealand were not pre-planned.  </p><p>Those high costs and lack of planning often leaves bereaved families with a huge bill that compounds the grief of those left behind.</p><p>Death Without Debt is a social movement dedicated to: exposing the reasons why funeral costs are so high; and changing the law to make funerals and cremations more affordable for all New Zealanders.</p><p>In this episode, host Pete is joined by Fergus Wheeler from the Death Without Debt campaign.  Fergus describes the New Zealand funeral industry, shares how organising funerals for his parents led him to believe that something is seriously wrong with the funeral system in New Zealand and explains the issues that prevent families managing the funeral or cremation process themselves.</p><p>To learn more about the Death Without Debt campaign, please visit <a href="https://www.deathwithoutdebt.org.nz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.deathwithoutdebt.org.nz </a>or look for Death Without Debt on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/DeathWithoutDebtNZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FaceBook.</a></p><p>If you would like to appear on this podcast, please email <a href="mailto:deathwithoutdebt@proton.me" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">deathwithoutdebt@proton.me</a></p><p>Alternatively, email <a href="https://mailto:pete@getflushed.online" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">pete@getflushed.online </a></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Death Without debt is a new podcast from the Get Flushed studio.</p><p>In 2023, the average cost of a basic funeral or cremation in New Zealand was between $8,000 and $15,000.  That same year, 64% of funerals and cremations in New Zealand were not pre-planned.  </p><p>Those high costs and lack of planning often leaves bereaved families with a huge bill that compounds the grief of those left behind.</p><p>Death Without Debt is a social movement dedicated to: exposing the reasons why funeral costs are so high; and changing the law to make funerals and cremations more affordable for all New Zealanders.</p><p>In this episode, host Pete is joined by Fergus Wheeler from the Death Without Debt campaign.  Fergus describes the New Zealand funeral industry, shares how organising funerals for his parents led him to believe that something is seriously wrong with the funeral system in New Zealand and explains the issues that prevent families managing the funeral or cremation process themselves.</p><p>To learn more about the Death Without Debt campaign, please visit <a href="https://www.deathwithoutdebt.org.nz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.deathwithoutdebt.org.nz </a>or look for Death Without Debt on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/DeathWithoutDebtNZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FaceBook.</a></p><p>If you would like to appear on this podcast, please email <a href="mailto:deathwithoutdebt@proton.me" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">deathwithoutdebt@proton.me</a></p><p>Alternatively, email <a href="https://mailto:pete@getflushed.online" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">pete@getflushed.online </a></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://deathwithoutdebt.captivate.fm/episode/death-without-debt]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">b6512f0c-9476-424e-a06a-c7fe4cc8e97f</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/afbd4ab9-3ba2-4877-b5a4-acc08e685d83/BlDkqHCvrTa6MVSVxg7_C7N0.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Get Flushed Ltd]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 09 Sep 2024 06:00:00 +1300</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/95a87fa3-82fc-44eb-abce-62fc0b687042/DWD-1-3.mp3" length="36517120" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>38:02</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>1</podcast:episode><itunes:author>Get Flushed Ltd</itunes:author><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/581adee3-f2e4-440b-b76b-4faf688cac39/transcript.json" type="application/json"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/581adee3-f2e4-440b-b76b-4faf688cac39/transcript.srt" type="application/srt" rel="captions"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/581adee3-f2e4-440b-b76b-4faf688cac39/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>Understanding Death Without Debt: A Journey into Affordable Funerals</title><itunes:title>Understanding Death Without Debt: A Journey into Affordable Funerals</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Host Pete introduces Death Without Debt, a new podcast dedicated to making affordable funerals and cremations more accessible to all.</p><p>To find out more about the Death Without Debt campaign, please visit <a href="https://www.deathwithoutdebt.org.nz/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.deathwithoutdebt.org.nz</a></p><p>At a workshop in Christchurch, Pete discovered the staggering average costs of funerals and cremations in New Zealand, which can reach between $8,000 and $15,000. This eye-opening experience prompted him to delve deeper into the financial implications of death, particularly when he learned that a significant majority of funerals—64%—are not pre-planned. Such statistics underscore the urgent need for families to engage in discussions about end-of-life planning, which can prevent added financial stress during moments of grief.</p><p>The podcast serves as an exploration of the complexities surrounding funeral costs, the societal norms that inhibit open discussions about death, and the initiatives designed to create a more informed public. Pete acknowledges his own unfamiliarity with the topic, which positions him uniquely to ask the questions many listeners might have. Throughout the series, he plans to interview experts involved in the Death Without Debt campaign who can provide insights into the history, terminology, and practices surrounding funeral planning. By demystifying these processes, the podcast aims to equip listeners with knowledge that can aid in making informed decisions for themselves and their loved ones.</p><p>As Pete emphasizes the importance of breaking the silence surrounding death, he invites listeners to subscribe and participate in this critical conversation. The podcast not only aims to educate but also to empower individuals to take charge of their end-of-life arrangements proactively. Through open dialogue and expert advice, Pete hopes to foster a cultural shift towards recognizing that while death is inevitable, the financial burdens associated with it do not have to be. This proactive approach encourages families to engage in discussions about death, ensuring their loved ones are not left grappling with unexpected expenses during a time of mourning.</p><p>Takeaways:</p><ul><li> The average cost of a basic funeral or cremation in New Zealand ranges from $8,000 to $15,000. </li><li> 64% of funerals and cremations in 2023 were not pre-planned or prepaid, leading to financial stress. </li><li> Death Without Debt aims to educate people about funeral processes to ease financial burdens on families. </li><li> The podcast will feature experts who will discuss affordable funeral options and planning strategies. </li><li> Understanding funeral costs is essential as it can significantly impact grieving families financially. </li><li> Society often avoids discussing death, which can lead to unexpected challenges when it occurs. </li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Host Pete introduces Death Without Debt, a new podcast dedicated to making affordable funerals and cremations more accessible to all.</p><p>To find out more about the Death Without Debt campaign, please visit <a href="https://www.deathwithoutdebt.org.nz/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.deathwithoutdebt.org.nz</a></p><p>At a workshop in Christchurch, Pete discovered the staggering average costs of funerals and cremations in New Zealand, which can reach between $8,000 and $15,000. This eye-opening experience prompted him to delve deeper into the financial implications of death, particularly when he learned that a significant majority of funerals—64%—are not pre-planned. Such statistics underscore the urgent need for families to engage in discussions about end-of-life planning, which can prevent added financial stress during moments of grief.</p><p>The podcast serves as an exploration of the complexities surrounding funeral costs, the societal norms that inhibit open discussions about death, and the initiatives designed to create a more informed public. Pete acknowledges his own unfamiliarity with the topic, which positions him uniquely to ask the questions many listeners might have. Throughout the series, he plans to interview experts involved in the Death Without Debt campaign who can provide insights into the history, terminology, and practices surrounding funeral planning. By demystifying these processes, the podcast aims to equip listeners with knowledge that can aid in making informed decisions for themselves and their loved ones.</p><p>As Pete emphasizes the importance of breaking the silence surrounding death, he invites listeners to subscribe and participate in this critical conversation. The podcast not only aims to educate but also to empower individuals to take charge of their end-of-life arrangements proactively. Through open dialogue and expert advice, Pete hopes to foster a cultural shift towards recognizing that while death is inevitable, the financial burdens associated with it do not have to be. This proactive approach encourages families to engage in discussions about death, ensuring their loved ones are not left grappling with unexpected expenses during a time of mourning.</p><p>Takeaways:</p><ul><li> The average cost of a basic funeral or cremation in New Zealand ranges from $8,000 to $15,000. </li><li> 64% of funerals and cremations in 2023 were not pre-planned or prepaid, leading to financial stress. </li><li> Death Without Debt aims to educate people about funeral processes to ease financial burdens on families. </li><li> The podcast will feature experts who will discuss affordable funeral options and planning strategies. </li><li> Understanding funeral costs is essential as it can significantly impact grieving families financially. </li><li> Society often avoids discussing death, which can lead to unexpected challenges when it occurs. </li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://deathwithoutdebt.captivate.fm/episode/introducing-death-without-debt]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">bab27499-12a7-4b74-b365-04c9ac82e5e1</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/afbd4ab9-3ba2-4877-b5a4-acc08e685d83/BlDkqHCvrTa6MVSVxg7_C7N0.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Get Flushed Ltd]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 08 Aug 2024 09:00:00 +1300</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/3d4e79a8-1920-4e75-accb-9db338717646/Death-Without-Debt-Trailer.mp3" length="2468992" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>02:34</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>trailer</itunes:episodeType><itunes:author>Get Flushed Ltd</itunes:author><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/aae6c624-9c5f-4300-b8dc-22d092d80021/transcript.json" type="application/json"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/aae6c624-9c5f-4300-b8dc-22d092d80021/transcript.srt" type="application/srt" rel="captions"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/aae6c624-9c5f-4300-b8dc-22d092d80021/index.html" type="text/html"/><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-3d4e79a8-1920-4e75-accb-9db338717646.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item></channel></rss>