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Hosted by Ashley Makan and Wendy Bruns, this podcast explores how our earliest experiences — from preconception, pregnancy, birth, and infancy — shape the foundations of human life. Grounded in APPPAH’s more than 40 years of research, education, and advocacy, each episode brings forward conversations at the intersection of science, lived experience, somatics, consciousness, and the human condition. Together, we explore how life before and around birth influences our nervous systems, identities, relationships, and capacity for connection — making prenatal and perinatal psychology more accessible for families, professionals, and communities.]]></itunes:summary><image><url>https://artwork.captivate.fm/ca109d13-de50-40fd-9990-8b870a269a8c/The-Birth-Psychology-Podcast-Demystifying-the-Human-Experience-.jpg</url><title>Demystifying Birth Psychology</title><link><![CDATA[https://demystifyingbp.captivate.fm]]></link></image><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/ca109d13-de50-40fd-9990-8b870a269a8c/The-Birth-Psychology-Podcast-Demystifying-the-Human-Experience-.jpg"/><itunes:owner><itunes:name>Ashley Makan</itunes:name></itunes:owner><itunes:author>Ashley Makan</itunes:author><description>Demystifying Birth Psychology is a public education channel for the birth psychology movement, created by APPPAH — the Association for Prenatal and Perinatal Psychology and Health. 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Lauria reflects on her roots in traditional midwifery and explores how fear, over-medicalization, and loss of embodied skill have reshaped modern birth care. The conversation examines autonomy, physiological birth, breech and multiples, provider regulation, relational safety, and the difference between being at higher risk and being labeled high risk. Lauria discusses why women are so often taught to look outside themselves for authority, what it means to be “allowed” to birth, and how coercion and fear can disrupt labor physiology. She also shares the story behind the documentary <em>Allowed to Birth</em>, the importance of preserving traditional midwifery knowledge, and how prenatal and perinatal psychology changed the way she relates to babies and families in the birth space.</p><p></p><p>Learn more about Kristine: <u><a href="https://kristinelauria.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://kristinelauria.com/</a></u></p><p>Learn more about APPPAH: <u><a href="https://www.birthpsychology.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.birthpsychology.com</a></u></p><p></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hosts Ashley Makan and Wendy Bruns welcome global midwife Kristine Lauria, whose decades of experience span home birth, humanitarian settings, breech birth, multiples, and more than 5,000 births across 25+ countries. Lauria reflects on her roots in traditional midwifery and explores how fear, over-medicalization, and loss of embodied skill have reshaped modern birth care. The conversation examines autonomy, physiological birth, breech and multiples, provider regulation, relational safety, and the difference between being at higher risk and being labeled high risk. Lauria discusses why women are so often taught to look outside themselves for authority, what it means to be “allowed” to birth, and how coercion and fear can disrupt labor physiology. She also shares the story behind the documentary <em>Allowed to Birth</em>, the importance of preserving traditional midwifery knowledge, and how prenatal and perinatal psychology changed the way she relates to babies and families in the birth space.</p><p></p><p>Learn more about Kristine: <u><a href="https://kristinelauria.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://kristinelauria.com/</a></u></p><p>Learn more about APPPAH: <u><a href="https://www.birthpsychology.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.birthpsychology.com</a></u></p><p></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://demystifyingbp.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">2e12d92f-156e-473d-bda9-14e513ab6213</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/ca109d13-de50-40fd-9990-8b870a269a8c/The-Birth-Psychology-Podcast-Demystifying-the-Human-Experience-.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2026 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/2e12d92f-156e-473d-bda9-14e513ab6213.mp3" length="75559200" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:18:42</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>3</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Demystifying Birth Psychology | Trailer</title><itunes:title>Demystifying Birth Psychology | Trailer</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Ashley Makan and Wendy Bruns introduce APPPAH's new podcast, Demystifying Birth Psychology. </p><p><strong>Learn more about the Association for Prenatal and Perinatal Psychology and Health (APPPAH):</strong> <a href="www.birthpsychology.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.birthpsychology.com</a></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ashley Makan and Wendy Bruns introduce APPPAH's new podcast, Demystifying Birth Psychology. </p><p><strong>Learn more about the Association for Prenatal and Perinatal Psychology and Health (APPPAH):</strong> <a href="www.birthpsychology.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.birthpsychology.com</a></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://demystifyingbp.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">f06dbf8c-ad4b-4e4d-9234-24f805028550</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/ca109d13-de50-40fd-9990-8b870a269a8c/The-Birth-Psychology-Podcast-Demystifying-the-Human-Experience-.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2026 17:25:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/f06dbf8c-ad4b-4e4d-9234-24f805028550.mp3" length="1737035" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:49</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>trailer</itunes:episodeType><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="video/youtube" title="Demystifying Birth Psychology | Trailer"><podcast:source uri="https://youtu.be/brWAutYOBGw"/></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>Mothers as the Soil: Innate Design, Co-Regulation, and Postpartum Care</title><itunes:title>Mothers as the Soil: Innate Design, Co-Regulation, and Postpartum Care</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Hosts Ashley Makan and Wendy Bruns welcome midwife, mother, and Innate Postpartum Care creator Rachelle Seliga for a wide-ranging conversation about what becomes possible when we understand human development through the lens of relationship, physiology, and early experience.</p><p></p><p>Rachelle shares how her work evolved from a deep attunement to babies into a broader understanding of maternal wellness, describing mothers as the soil from which humanity grows. Together, they explore postpartum as a rite of passage, the role of co-regulation in healthy development, and how touch, sleep, feeding, and connection reflect our innate biological design.</p><p></p><p>The conversation also examines how cultural conditioning can pull families away from physiology, how early experiences from the womb through childhood shape lifelong patterns, and why meaningful change requires support that extends beyond the individual. Rachelle shares how her work with practitioners across disciplines is helping create more integrated, non-hierarchical models of care rooted in relationship, embodiment, and the conditions that allow both mothers and babies to thrive.</p><p></p><p><strong>Learn More About Rochelle: </strong><a href="www.innatetraditions.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.innatetraditions.com</a></p><p><strong>Learn More About APPPAH:</strong> <a href="www.birthpsychology.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.birthpsychology.com</a></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hosts Ashley Makan and Wendy Bruns welcome midwife, mother, and Innate Postpartum Care creator Rachelle Seliga for a wide-ranging conversation about what becomes possible when we understand human development through the lens of relationship, physiology, and early experience.</p><p></p><p>Rachelle shares how her work evolved from a deep attunement to babies into a broader understanding of maternal wellness, describing mothers as the soil from which humanity grows. 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