<![CDATA[We're not recording]]>fc1d191c-0699-54cd-96a0-f0345307258cThu, 30 Apr 2026 09:30:05 +0000Captivate.fm Roxanne Petraeushttps://artwork.captivate.fm/750afa4f-f049-4cec-bf75-46fb4a1b2398/WNR-Thumbnail-v3.jpgWe're not recording Roxanne Petraeus Roxanne PetraeusI’m Roxanne Petraeus—CEO at Ethena, Army vet, and mom—joined by Melanie Naranjo, our CPO and animal mom. Together, we talk about all things HR: the hiring fails, the leadership wins (and disasters), and the stuff you’d never hear in a corporate training. This is candid, messy, and way too fun to be a boring business podcast.https://ethena.captivate.fmfalseepisodicnopodcastPeople Deserve to Feel Energized by the Work They Do W/ Jeri DorisPeople Deserve to Feel Energized by the Work They Do W/ Jeri DorisWhat if the problem isn’t your job—but that you’ve never stopped to ask what actually gives you energy? In this episode, Jeri Doris shares why so many people settle into work that’s comfortable but unfulfilling, and how that disconnect quietly impacts everything—from performance to well-being. They explore the intersection of what you’re good at and what brings you joy, and why finding that overlap isn’t a luxury—it’s the difference between feeling drained and feeling alive in your work. The conversation also dives into how AI is reshaping the way we work—not just by increasing speed, but by creating an opportunity to remove the mundane and focus on what actually matters. But without intention, it risks becoming more noise, more pressure, and more surface-level output instead of real progress. At its core, this episode is a reminder: people deserve to feel energized by the work they do—and if that energy isn’t there, it’s worth asking why.

]]>What if the problem isn’t your job—but that you’ve never stopped to ask what actually gives you energy? In this episode, Jeri Doris shares why so many people settle into work that’s comfortable but unfulfilling, and how that disconnect quietly impacts everything—from performance to well-being. They explore the intersection of what you’re good at and what brings you joy, and why finding that overlap isn’t a luxury—it’s the difference between feeling drained and feeling alive in your work. The conversation also dives into how AI is reshaping the way we work—not just by increasing speed, but by creating an opportunity to remove the mundane and focus on what actually matters. But without intention, it risks becoming more noise, more pressure, and more surface-level output instead of real progress. At its core, this episode is a reminder: people deserve to feel energized by the work they do—and if that energy isn’t there, it’s worth asking why.

]]>3f240ea1-515b-4678-ad57-a6bccc133960Thu, 30 Apr 2026 05:30:00 -040030:07falsefull219192The Emotional Weight of Helping People Grow W/ Arthur YamamotoThe Emotional Weight of Helping People Grow W/ Arthur YamamotoThis conversation sits inside the quiet, often invisible weight of leadership—where helping people grow isn’t just a responsibility, it’s something you carry with you long after the workday ends.

Arthur and Melanie unpack what it actually feels like to be responsible for someone else’s development: the pressure to have answers you may not have, the tension between surfacing problems and being able to solve them, and the reality that much of this work goes unseen or unrecognized. They explore the emotional cost of caring deeply—losing sleep over your team, holding their uncertainty, and navigating the gap between what employees expect and what managers can realistically provide.

At its core, the episode is about redefining growth as a shared responsibility. Not something managers own alone, but something built through trust, clarity, and honest expectations—where the goal isn’t just to retain people, but to genuinely help them become who they’re meant to be, even if that journey takes them elsewhere.

]]>This conversation sits inside the quiet, often invisible weight of leadership—where helping people grow isn’t just a responsibility, it’s something you carry with you long after the workday ends.

Arthur and Melanie unpack what it actually feels like to be responsible for someone else’s development: the pressure to have answers you may not have, the tension between surfacing problems and being able to solve them, and the reality that much of this work goes unseen or unrecognized. They explore the emotional cost of caring deeply—losing sleep over your team, holding their uncertainty, and navigating the gap between what employees expect and what managers can realistically provide.

At its core, the episode is about redefining growth as a shared responsibility. Not something managers own alone, but something built through trust, clarity, and honest expectations—where the goal isn’t just to retain people, but to genuinely help them become who they’re meant to be, even if that journey takes them elsewhere.

]]>c6846f50-141d-412b-9fe4-31a416e72f95Tue, 28 Apr 2026 05:30:00 -040024:18falsefull218182From Controlling Work to Activating People W/Bala SathyanarayananFrom Controlling Work to Activating People W/Bala SathyanarayananThis episode breaks down the shift from managing work to actually activating people. It explores how real leadership isn’t about control, tracking, or oversight—it’s about creating clarity, building trust, and unlocking the effort people already have inside them. When employees feel connected and developed, they show up differently—and that’s what drives customer experience and business results. It also hits a hard truth: people don’t leave companies, they leave managers. Which makes leadership the difference between engagement and disconnection. And as teams scale and AI replaces more managerial tasks, control stops working. What’s left is leadership. Because at a certain point, the job isn’t to manage work. It’s to activate people.

]]>This episode breaks down the shift from managing work to actually activating people. It explores how real leadership isn’t about control, tracking, or oversight—it’s about creating clarity, building trust, and unlocking the effort people already have inside them. When employees feel connected and developed, they show up differently—and that’s what drives customer experience and business results. It also hits a hard truth: people don’t leave companies, they leave managers. Which makes leadership the difference between engagement and disconnection. And as teams scale and AI replaces more managerial tasks, control stops working. What’s left is leadership. Because at a certain point, the job isn’t to manage work. It’s to activate people.

]]>6227c9ad-065f-4c83-b0e6-9c972b39398eTue, 28 Apr 2026 05:30:00 -040023:26falsefull217172Technology Is Changing Fast & HR Shouldn’t Have to Figure It Out Alone W/Karishma Patel BufordTechnology Is Changing Fast & HR Shouldn’t Have to Figure It Out Alone W/Karishma Patel BufordAs AI rapidly reshapes the workplace, HR leaders are being asked to move fast without losing the human side of work. Karishma Patel Buford joins Melanie to talk about psychological safety, employee fear, burnout, AI and mental health, and why teams need guidance—not just tools—to adapt. This episode explores how great HR leaders help people navigate massive change without making them figure it out alone.

]]>As AI rapidly reshapes the workplace, HR leaders are being asked to move fast without losing the human side of work. Karishma Patel Buford joins Melanie to talk about psychological safety, employee fear, burnout, AI and mental health, and why teams need guidance—not just tools—to adapt. This episode explores how great HR leaders help people navigate massive change without making them figure it out alone.

]]>d6c17f5a-c1e2-4e77-af69-8e570a9700caMon, 27 Apr 2026 05:30:00 -040026:41falsefull211112When Human Leadership Meets Business Velocity W/ Diana BlanconeWhen Human Leadership Meets Business Velocity W/ Diana BlanconeA fast-moving business demands speed, but the real work of leadership happens in how you bring people along with it. In a world of constant velocity—where priorities shift, acquisitions reshape organizations, and no two days look the same—human leadership becomes the anchor. It’s not just about driving strategy and execution, but about creating an employee experience that feels connected, intentional, and worth being part of. At the center of it all is the balance between business needs and human impact—making decisions that optimize performance while ensuring people feel supported, heard, and set up to succeed. Whether it’s integrating cultures, navigating change, or making difficult talent decisions, the most effective leaders stay close to their people: listening, understanding their strengths, and helping them build confidence in what they bring. Because when leadership moves at business speed without losing its humanity, that’s when organizations don’t just operate—they evolve, adapt, and actually work for the people inside them.

]]>A fast-moving business demands speed, but the real work of leadership happens in how you bring people along with it. In a world of constant velocity—where priorities shift, acquisitions reshape organizations, and no two days look the same—human leadership becomes the anchor. It’s not just about driving strategy and execution, but about creating an employee experience that feels connected, intentional, and worth being part of. At the center of it all is the balance between business needs and human impact—making decisions that optimize performance while ensuring people feel supported, heard, and set up to succeed. Whether it’s integrating cultures, navigating change, or making difficult talent decisions, the most effective leaders stay close to their people: listening, understanding their strengths, and helping them build confidence in what they bring. Because when leadership moves at business speed without losing its humanity, that’s when organizations don’t just operate—they evolve, adapt, and actually work for the people inside them.

]]>7268e9e3-cdf3-4cea-8d40-dbc11598ebacThu, 23 Apr 2026 05:30:00 -040025:32falsefull216162The Physical Human Experience Matters W/ John FosterThe Physical Human Experience Matters W/ John FosterEven as AI transforms how work gets done, the real challenges in organizations still come down to people—communication, relationships, and shared direction. This episode explores why understanding how humans think, learn, and connect matters more than ever. AI can optimize workflows, but it can’t replace creativity, judgment, or the human experience. The organizations that thrive won’t just chase new tools—they’ll stay grounded in what actually drives connection and meaningful work.

]]>Even as AI transforms how work gets done, the real challenges in organizations still come down to people—communication, relationships, and shared direction. This episode explores why understanding how humans think, learn, and connect matters more than ever. AI can optimize workflows, but it can’t replace creativity, judgment, or the human experience. The organizations that thrive won’t just chase new tools—they’ll stay grounded in what actually drives connection and meaningful work.

]]>3a970bb6-a318-47d5-93cb-0c13c244dc67Mon, 20 Apr 2026 05:30:00 -040013:54falsefull215152Painting with AI Through a Human-Centered Lens W/ Christine ParkPainting with AI Through a Human-Centered Lens W/ Christine ParkChristine Park brings a deeply human perspective to one of today’s biggest workplace conversations: AI transformation. Drawing on decades of experience leading change through everything from shared computers and paper files to remote work and digital platforms, she reframes AI not as something to fear, but as the next evolution in how people work. Through stories ranging from the rise of the internet to the birth of Impressionist art after photography, Christine explores why the future of work must be built through a human-centered lens — one that elevates creativity, employee experience, and growth rather than simply chasing efficiency.

]]>Christine Park brings a deeply human perspective to one of today’s biggest workplace conversations: AI transformation. Drawing on decades of experience leading change through everything from shared computers and paper files to remote work and digital platforms, she reframes AI not as something to fear, but as the next evolution in how people work. Through stories ranging from the rise of the internet to the birth of Impressionist art after photography, Christine explores why the future of work must be built through a human-centered lens — one that elevates creativity, employee experience, and growth rather than simply chasing efficiency.

]]>e98e781e-ad79-4612-9893-92cb0efacfb5Wed, 15 Apr 2026 05:30:00 -040027:31falsefull214142Teams Earn the Right to Win W/Tiffany StevensonTeams Earn the Right to Win W/Tiffany StevensonWhen teams earn the right to win, it starts long before execution. Tiffany Stevenson shares why the first 90 days in leadership should be spent learning the business deeply, building trust across teams, and understanding what truly moves the organization forward. From career pathing and enablement to designing initiatives that actually fit how teams work, this conversation explores why the best people strategies are built inside the realities of the business—not outside of them. It’s a conversation about trust, flexibility, thoughtful design, and why great teams don’t just execute well—they are intentionally set up to succeed.

]]>When teams earn the right to win, it starts long before execution. Tiffany Stevenson shares why the first 90 days in leadership should be spent learning the business deeply, building trust across teams, and understanding what truly moves the organization forward. From career pathing and enablement to designing initiatives that actually fit how teams work, this conversation explores why the best people strategies are built inside the realities of the business—not outside of them. It’s a conversation about trust, flexibility, thoughtful design, and why great teams don’t just execute well—they are intentionally set up to succeed.

]]>13409f25-e070-441a-9037-7d1a485808a2Thu, 09 Apr 2026 05:30:00 -040027:58falsefull213132From Managing Teams to Measuring Impact W/ Brad WilkinsFrom Managing Teams to Measuring Impact W/ Brad WilkinsBrad Wilkins joins Melanie to unpack what it really means to lead people through change when the way we work is being rewritten in real time. From how AI is reshaping job levels, promotions, and team structures to why measuring impact matters more than managing headcount, this conversation goes deep on the future of work. Brad shares a powerful four-part framework for understanding why people succeed or struggle in a role, how to lead difficult performance conversations with empathy and clarity, and why directness—not PIPs—often creates better outcomes. It’s a candid conversation about scale, leadership credibility, and helping people understand whether they can grow with the business or whether it’s time to move on.

]]>Brad Wilkins joins Melanie to unpack what it really means to lead people through change when the way we work is being rewritten in real time. From how AI is reshaping job levels, promotions, and team structures to why measuring impact matters more than managing headcount, this conversation goes deep on the future of work. Brad shares a powerful four-part framework for understanding why people succeed or struggle in a role, how to lead difficult performance conversations with empathy and clarity, and why directness—not PIPs—often creates better outcomes. It’s a candid conversation about scale, leadership credibility, and helping people understand whether they can grow with the business or whether it’s time to move on.

]]>d01a76fc-d70a-4983-83b2-2608d8f479b1Wed, 08 Apr 2026 05:30:00 -040023:56falsefull212122AI Just Gave You a Promotion W/Ben LagnerAI Just Gave You a Promotion W/Ben LagnerAI isn’t just making work faster—it’s changing what your job actually is. The work that used to take hours—writing, building decks, creating training—now happens in seconds, which forces a bigger question: if execution is easy, where does your value really come from? The shift isn’t about becoming technical or mastering complex prompts—it’s about thinking differently, using AI as a partner, and focusing on judgment, strategy, and relationships. The people who lean in, experiment, and apply it to real, everyday problems aren’t just keeping up—they’re stepping into a bigger role than they had before.

]]>AI isn’t just making work faster—it’s changing what your job actually is. The work that used to take hours—writing, building decks, creating training—now happens in seconds, which forces a bigger question: if execution is easy, where does your value really come from? The shift isn’t about becoming technical or mastering complex prompts—it’s about thinking differently, using AI as a partner, and focusing on judgment, strategy, and relationships. The people who lean in, experiment, and apply it to real, everyday problems aren’t just keeping up—they’re stepping into a bigger role than they had before.

]]>f7b4e19e-382c-4b5f-9fcc-0aa5fce129a4Wed, 25 Mar 2026 09:00:00 -040022:33falsefull210102No One Leads Through Change Without Being Changed by It W/ StephenNo One Leads Through Change Without Being Changed by It W/ StephenStephen Childs has spent decades leading through constant change—and what he’s learned is that change doesn’t just test leaders, it reshapes them. From sharing his own weaknesses openly with his team to building cultures rooted in authenticity and trust, he explains why vulnerability becomes a turning point in leadership, not a liability. This conversation explores why people resist change—even when it could save their lives—and what that means for leading teams through transformation. Stephen breaks down the science behind behavior change, why most change efforts fail, and how leaders can actually make change stick through clarity, repetition, and habit-building. At its core, this episode is about a shift in perspective: leadership isn’t about controlling change—it’s about being changed by it, and using that transformation to build stronger teams, deeper trust, and more resilient organizations.

]]>Stephen Childs has spent decades leading through constant change—and what he’s learned is that change doesn’t just test leaders, it reshapes them. From sharing his own weaknesses openly with his team to building cultures rooted in authenticity and trust, he explains why vulnerability becomes a turning point in leadership, not a liability. This conversation explores why people resist change—even when it could save their lives—and what that means for leading teams through transformation. Stephen breaks down the science behind behavior change, why most change efforts fail, and how leaders can actually make change stick through clarity, repetition, and habit-building. At its core, this episode is about a shift in perspective: leadership isn’t about controlling change—it’s about being changed by it, and using that transformation to build stronger teams, deeper trust, and more resilient organizations.

]]>75780d14-be9f-43cd-9ced-56d5e2f2bd62Wed, 25 Mar 2026 09:00:00 -040029:54falsefull2992The AI Era Might Reward the Most Human Leaders W/David HanrahanThe AI Era Might Reward the Most Human Leaders W/David HanrahanAs AI reshapes the workplace, many leaders feel pressure to become technical experts overnight. But in this conversation with David Hanrahan, SVP of People Success at SolarWinds, the focus shifts to a different idea: the leaders who succeed in the AI era may simply be the most human. David reflects on moving from needing to be heard in every meeting to listening more, asking better questions, and amplifying others’ ideas. He also pushes back on AI doomerism—arguing that while technology will change how we work, it won’t eliminate the need for curiosity, judgment, and human leadership. Most importantly, he shares the leadership skill he’s trying to level up right now: not AI expertise, but becoming a better human outside of work—because how we show up in life ultimately shapes how we lead.

]]>As AI reshapes the workplace, many leaders feel pressure to become technical experts overnight. But in this conversation with David Hanrahan, SVP of People Success at SolarWinds, the focus shifts to a different idea: the leaders who succeed in the AI era may simply be the most human. David reflects on moving from needing to be heard in every meeting to listening more, asking better questions, and amplifying others’ ideas. He also pushes back on AI doomerism—arguing that while technology will change how we work, it won’t eliminate the need for curiosity, judgment, and human leadership. Most importantly, he shares the leadership skill he’s trying to level up right now: not AI expertise, but becoming a better human outside of work—because how we show up in life ultimately shapes how we lead.

]]>8e9ade3b-a8d6-486b-8868-3345a0a3a218Thu, 19 Mar 2026 05:30:00 -040025:16falsefull2882When trust is missing at the top, HR feels like climbing Everest without oxygen W/Angela KiniryWhen trust is missing at the top, HR feels like climbing Everest without oxygen W/Angela KiniryWhen trust is missing at the top, HR doesn’t just feel hard — it feels like “hiking Mount Everest without oxygen”. In this episode of We’re Not Recording, Angela Kiniry, Chief People Officer at Articulate, shares how a lack of trust between HR and executive leadership makes it nearly impossible to lead authentically — and how that absence ripples down through teams and culture. Angela opens up about resilience, empathy shaped by motherhood, balancing accountability with humanity in performance conversations, and why building trust at the top is essential for creating safety throughout an organization. An honest conversation about fulfillment, growth, and what it really takes to lead in HR.

]]>When trust is missing at the top, HR doesn’t just feel hard — it feels like “hiking Mount Everest without oxygen”. In this episode of We’re Not Recording, Angela Kiniry, Chief People Officer at Articulate, shares how a lack of trust between HR and executive leadership makes it nearly impossible to lead authentically — and how that absence ripples down through teams and culture. Angela opens up about resilience, empathy shaped by motherhood, balancing accountability with humanity in performance conversations, and why building trust at the top is essential for creating safety throughout an organization. An honest conversation about fulfillment, growth, and what it really takes to lead in HR.

]]>0e7b3992-e3c7-4a59-b358-20ad4a866061Thu, 05 Mar 2026 05:30:00 -040023:16falsefull2772How an HR Leader Decides When Change Is the Right Move W/ Jeff BettingerHow an HR Leader Decides When Change Is the Right Move W/ Jeff BettingerWhat does it really take for an HR leader to decide that change is the right move? In this episode, Jeff Bettinger shares the real story behind multiple corporate relocations, career pivots, and the hard-earned lessons that shaped how he evaluates opportunity. From moving his family across states to weighing financial growth against personal trade-offs, Jeff pulls back the curtain on what those decisions actually look like — not just on paper, but around the dinner table. He talks about knowing yourself first, recognizing when growth requires discomfort, and understanding when staying put is the right call. Jeff also reflects candidly on a role he regrets taking — and the red flags he missed because he was distracted by the upside. For HR leaders considering a change, he offers practical guidance on how to interview the company as rigorously as they interview you — including asking about unwritten rules, power dynamics, turnover patterns, and the conversations no one wants to have. Because deciding when to change roles isn’t just about compensation or title. It’s about fit, growth, timing, family, and the courage to ask the questions that reveal what’s really going on beneath the surface.

]]>What does it really take for an HR leader to decide that change is the right move? In this episode, Jeff Bettinger shares the real story behind multiple corporate relocations, career pivots, and the hard-earned lessons that shaped how he evaluates opportunity. From moving his family across states to weighing financial growth against personal trade-offs, Jeff pulls back the curtain on what those decisions actually look like — not just on paper, but around the dinner table. He talks about knowing yourself first, recognizing when growth requires discomfort, and understanding when staying put is the right call. Jeff also reflects candidly on a role he regrets taking — and the red flags he missed because he was distracted by the upside. For HR leaders considering a change, he offers practical guidance on how to interview the company as rigorously as they interview you — including asking about unwritten rules, power dynamics, turnover patterns, and the conversations no one wants to have. Because deciding when to change roles isn’t just about compensation or title. It’s about fit, growth, timing, family, and the courage to ask the questions that reveal what’s really going on beneath the surface.

]]>b5744f91-5a2a-4ea1-9a9e-1e9685b9ce21Thu, 12 Feb 2026 05:30:00 -040019:03falsefull2662Staying Curious as an HR Leader While Navigating Complexity W/Matt TaylorStaying Curious as an HR Leader While Navigating Complexity W/Matt TaylorIn this episode of We’re Not Recording, Matt Taylor, VP of Global HR at Endpoint Clinical, reflects on what it really means to stay curious as an HR leader in the middle of complexity. From earning a pilot’s license to navigating global people strategy, Matt shares how curiosity—not titles or promotions—has shaped his leadership journey. He explores why the best HR leaders learn to sit in the tension between empathy and accountability, how leadership is less about pleasing people and more about guiding them through ambiguity, and why holding complexity without losing compassion is the real work. Along the way, Matt unpacks lessons from commission-based recruiting, boundary-setting, lifelong learning, and why HR ultimately teaches you more about leadership than people. This conversation is a grounded, honest look at leading through uncertainty—by asking better questions, staying human, and never stopping the learning process.

]]>In this episode of We’re Not Recording, Matt Taylor, VP of Global HR at Endpoint Clinical, reflects on what it really means to stay curious as an HR leader in the middle of complexity. From earning a pilot’s license to navigating global people strategy, Matt shares how curiosity—not titles or promotions—has shaped his leadership journey. He explores why the best HR leaders learn to sit in the tension between empathy and accountability, how leadership is less about pleasing people and more about guiding them through ambiguity, and why holding complexity without losing compassion is the real work. Along the way, Matt unpacks lessons from commission-based recruiting, boundary-setting, lifelong learning, and why HR ultimately teaches you more about leadership than people. This conversation is a grounded, honest look at leading through uncertainty—by asking better questions, staying human, and never stopping the learning process.

]]>bc4d6237-16aa-44a6-9379-9cc6a4449287Thu, 29 Jan 2026 05:30:00 -040025:11falsefull2552Integrity Opens the Door and Courage Takes the Wheel W/ Valerie WorkmanIntegrity Opens the Door and Courage Takes the Wheel W/ Valerie WorkmanIntegrity isn’t a slogan in this conversation—it’s a decision that comes with real risk. In this episode, Valerie Workman recounts the moment she walked into a meeting with Elon Musk fully expecting to be fired—and walked out leading Tesla’s 700-person HR organization. What began as speaking up about what the company needed turned into a defining leadership moment: when integrity opened the door, courage demanded she step through it. Valerie and Melanie unpack the invisible leadership calls no one prepares you for—taking responsibility instead of seeking permission, choosing the work over the title, and leading without a playbook during moments of real uncertainty. Valerie reflects on resisting the need to be liked, building the right team before crisis hits, and why excellence—not roles—is what actually transfers across careers. This conversation goes beyond career advice. It’s about what happens when you tell the truth in the room where decisions are made—and are brave enough to take the wheel when the road suddenly becomes yours to drive.

]]>Integrity isn’t a slogan in this conversation—it’s a decision that comes with real risk. In this episode, Valerie Workman recounts the moment she walked into a meeting with Elon Musk fully expecting to be fired—and walked out leading Tesla’s 700-person HR organization. What began as speaking up about what the company needed turned into a defining leadership moment: when integrity opened the door, courage demanded she step through it. Valerie and Melanie unpack the invisible leadership calls no one prepares you for—taking responsibility instead of seeking permission, choosing the work over the title, and leading without a playbook during moments of real uncertainty. Valerie reflects on resisting the need to be liked, building the right team before crisis hits, and why excellence—not roles—is what actually transfers across careers. This conversation goes beyond career advice. It’s about what happens when you tell the truth in the room where decisions are made—and are brave enough to take the wheel when the road suddenly becomes yours to drive.

]]>0584eb3f-955f-4de8-9a69-3638fa1b6511Thu, 22 Jan 2026 05:30:00 -040024:11falsefull2442Your Employee Has Two Full-Time Jobs? W/Tracy SimekYour Employee Has Two Full-Time Jobs? W/Tracy SimekWhen remote work took off during the pandemic, so did a risky new trend: people secretly working two full-time jobs at once.

In this episode of We’re Not Recording, Melanie Naranjo talks with Tracy Simek, Chief People Officer at Locus Robotics, about why this isn’t just a hustle issue — it’s a trust, culture, and mission issue.

Both leaders are clear: side hustles are fine. Entrepreneurship is encouraged. But representing yourself as fully committed to two companies at the same time crosses a line — because it puts company values, team trust, and even confidential information at risk

Tracy explains why at a fast-growing, mission-driven company like Locus, no one can build something truly meaningful while splitting their loyalty across multiple employers.

]]>When remote work took off during the pandemic, so did a risky new trend: people secretly working two full-time jobs at once.

In this episode of We’re Not Recording, Melanie Naranjo talks with Tracy Simek, Chief People Officer at Locus Robotics, about why this isn’t just a hustle issue — it’s a trust, culture, and mission issue.

Both leaders are clear: side hustles are fine. Entrepreneurship is encouraged. But representing yourself as fully committed to two companies at the same time crosses a line — because it puts company values, team trust, and even confidential information at risk

Tracy explains why at a fast-growing, mission-driven company like Locus, no one can build something truly meaningful while splitting their loyalty across multiple employers.

]]>22ceeee6-aba9-411b-9d39-89abb0393375Thu, 15 Jan 2026 05:30:00 -040023:03falsefull2332Leaving the Safety Net of a Big Company to Bet on Yourself W/Andrea CooperLeaving the Safety Net of a Big Company to Bet on Yourself W/Andrea CooperIn this episode of We’re Not Recording, Melanie Naranjo sits down with Andrea Cooper, Chief People Officer at Talkspace, to unpack her winding career journey — from working on the retail floor at Walmart, to spending over 20 years inside one of the world’s largest organizations, to stepping into the uncertainty of consulting and ultimately finding alignment in smaller, mission-driven companies. Andrea reflects on the fear and freedom that came with leaving the “safety of familiarity,” the steep learning curve of working for herself, and the confidence that comes from having to pitch your own value, set your own rates, and risk rejection. She shares candid lessons on building a consulting network, negotiating pricing without underselling yourself, and why relationship-based, authentic networking mattered more to her than personal branding or social media hustle. The conversation also explores the differences between large enterprises and lean teams, why smaller companies force deeper business understanding, and how retail experience shaped Andrea’s people-first but business-grounded leadership style. Throughout, Andrea emphasizes growth, resilience, and the power of discomfort as a catalyst for long-term confidence and clarity. This episode is especially valuable for HR leaders, consultants, and professionals considering a leap away from traditional career paths — or anyone questioning whether staying comfortable is holding them back from their next chapter.

]]>In this episode of We’re Not Recording, Melanie Naranjo sits down with Andrea Cooper, Chief People Officer at Talkspace, to unpack her winding career journey — from working on the retail floor at Walmart, to spending over 20 years inside one of the world’s largest organizations, to stepping into the uncertainty of consulting and ultimately finding alignment in smaller, mission-driven companies. Andrea reflects on the fear and freedom that came with leaving the “safety of familiarity,” the steep learning curve of working for herself, and the confidence that comes from having to pitch your own value, set your own rates, and risk rejection. She shares candid lessons on building a consulting network, negotiating pricing without underselling yourself, and why relationship-based, authentic networking mattered more to her than personal branding or social media hustle. The conversation also explores the differences between large enterprises and lean teams, why smaller companies force deeper business understanding, and how retail experience shaped Andrea’s people-first but business-grounded leadership style. Throughout, Andrea emphasizes growth, resilience, and the power of discomfort as a catalyst for long-term confidence and clarity. This episode is especially valuable for HR leaders, consultants, and professionals considering a leap away from traditional career paths — or anyone questioning whether staying comfortable is holding them back from their next chapter.

]]>bc2cc47d-798b-48dc-b5b4-2dea9effcb5dThu, 08 Jan 2026 05:30:00 -040023:01falsefull2222When Personal Reinvention Becomes your Next JobWhen Personal Reinvention Becomes your Next JobIn this episode of We’re Not Recording, Melanie Naranjo sits down with Carey Albertine, SVP of People & Culture at Voltus, Inc., to talk about what happens when the job you love suddenly becomes the one you can’t stand.

Carey reflects on how a leadership change transformed her work overnight—and how that moment reshaped her views on management, culture, and what truly drives engagement at work. The conversation explores her unconventional path into HR, the humility required to admit what you don’t know, and why personal reinvention isn’t a failure—it’s often the work itself.

This is an honest conversation about leadership misalignment, growth through discomfort, and finding purpose again when your career takes an unexpected turn.

]]>In this episode of We’re Not Recording, Melanie Naranjo sits down with Carey Albertine, SVP of People & Culture at Voltus, Inc., to talk about what happens when the job you love suddenly becomes the one you can’t stand.

Carey reflects on how a leadership change transformed her work overnight—and how that moment reshaped her views on management, culture, and what truly drives engagement at work. The conversation explores her unconventional path into HR, the humility required to admit what you don’t know, and why personal reinvention isn’t a failure—it’s often the work itself.

This is an honest conversation about leadership misalignment, growth through discomfort, and finding purpose again when your career takes an unexpected turn.

]]>5896bf19-c718-4f3a-9fd6-eb1645e9d76fThu, 18 Dec 2025 05:30:00 -040021:06falsefull2112When Your Résumé Feeds Imposter Syndrome W/Jevan LenoxWhen Your Résumé Feeds Imposter Syndrome W/Jevan LenoxIn this candid conversation, Chief People Officer Jevan Lenox reveals how an impressive résumé can actually intensify imposter syndrome — especially when you’re expected to have all the answers on day one.

Jevan shares how a rocky first year at Square shook his confidence, why starting over in sales ops (a field he knew nothing about) became a turning point, and how leading through curiosity instead of expertise reshaped his entire approach to leadership.


He and Melanie dive into navigating new executive roles, interrogating your own experience, resisting over-engineered HR processes, and choosing the highest-ROI path even when it’s not the most familiar.


A sharp, honest look at what happens when expectations collide with reality — and how not knowing can become your greatest strength.

]]>In this candid conversation, Chief People Officer Jevan Lenox reveals how an impressive résumé can actually intensify imposter syndrome — especially when you’re expected to have all the answers on day one.

Jevan shares how a rocky first year at Square shook his confidence, why starting over in sales ops (a field he knew nothing about) became a turning point, and how leading through curiosity instead of expertise reshaped his entire approach to leadership.


He and Melanie dive into navigating new executive roles, interrogating your own experience, resisting over-engineered HR processes, and choosing the highest-ROI path even when it’s not the most familiar.


A sharp, honest look at what happens when expectations collide with reality — and how not knowing can become your greatest strength.

]]>5439b2b6-b940-4959-a72e-bc69f22d13a7Thu, 04 Dec 2025 05:30:00 -040038:24falsefull4848The Perfect Match When a Legal Mind Meets a Human HeartThe Perfect Match When a Legal Mind Meets a Human HeartWhen a legal mind meets a human heart, the gray areas of work and life start to make a lot more sense. In this episode, Match Group’s Vice President of Global Employment Law and Ethics & Compliance, Katie Dugan, joins hosts Roxanne Petraeus and Melanie Naranjo to explore how love, law, and leadership collide. From the do’s and don’ts of dating at work to what really defines a “hostile” environment, Katie shares how empathy, judgment, and accountability can coexist—even in the most complex workplace situations. The trio dives into real-world workplace dilemmas, generational shifts in expectations, and the delicate art of handling the gray with both heart and integrity.

]]>When a legal mind meets a human heart, the gray areas of work and life start to make a lot more sense. In this episode, Match Group’s Vice President of Global Employment Law and Ethics & Compliance, Katie Dugan, joins hosts Roxanne Petraeus and Melanie Naranjo to explore how love, law, and leadership collide. From the do’s and don’ts of dating at work to what really defines a “hostile” environment, Katie shares how empathy, judgment, and accountability can coexist—even in the most complex workplace situations. The trio dives into real-world workplace dilemmas, generational shifts in expectations, and the delicate art of handling the gray with both heart and integrity.

]]>f536790e-6e8c-4fea-b475-9ed222b64236Thu, 13 Nov 2025 05:30:00 -040035:56falsefull4747Diversify Your Happiness: Stop Putting All Your Happiness in One BasketDiversify Your Happiness: Stop Putting All Your Happiness in One BasketIn this Halloween-themed episode of We’re Not Recording, Melanie Naranjo sits down with Lamari Brayboy III, Head of HR and People Operations at ThoughtWorks, to unpack a concept he calls “diversifying your happiness.” Drawing from his grandmother’s wisdom about not putting all your eggs in one basket, Lamari shares why tying your identity—or joy—to a single role, relationship, or achievement can be risky. He and Melanie explore how professionals, especially in HR, can rediscover fulfillment by building purpose across multiple “buckets” of life: work, family, community, hobbies, and self-growth. Along the way, Lamari reflects on his journey from law school to HR leadership, offers practical advice for reclaiming agency at work, and explains how learning the “language of business” helps HR earn a real seat at the table. This episode is an honest, energizing reminder to nurture different parts of yourself—so your happiness doesn’t depend on just one.

]]>In this Halloween-themed episode of We’re Not Recording, Melanie Naranjo sits down with Lamari Brayboy III, Head of HR and People Operations at ThoughtWorks, to unpack a concept he calls “diversifying your happiness.” Drawing from his grandmother’s wisdom about not putting all your eggs in one basket, Lamari shares why tying your identity—or joy—to a single role, relationship, or achievement can be risky. He and Melanie explore how professionals, especially in HR, can rediscover fulfillment by building purpose across multiple “buckets” of life: work, family, community, hobbies, and self-growth. Along the way, Lamari reflects on his journey from law school to HR leadership, offers practical advice for reclaiming agency at work, and explains how learning the “language of business” helps HR earn a real seat at the table. This episode is an honest, energizing reminder to nurture different parts of yourself—so your happiness doesn’t depend on just one.

]]>a3d6045d-7c38-4c10-b5c0-cdab4390c163Thu, 06 Nov 2025 05:30:00 -040022:44falsefull4646Strategic Parental Leave — and the Conversations Leaders AvoidStrategic Parental Leave — and the Conversations Leaders AvoidIn this candid episode of We’re Not Recording, Roxanne Petraeus—Ethena’s CEO and an expectant mom—joins VP of People Melanie Naranjo to unpack the real, often avoided conversations around parental leave. Together they explore the tension between business needs and human realities, from the fear of announcing a pregnancy to the unspoken pressure on women to “do it all.” They question toxic positivity around maternity leave, challenge outdated assumptions about ambition, and share what it actually looks like to build fair, flexible policies without losing honesty or empathy. It’s a grounded, funny, and refreshingly real look at what leaders and employees both wish they could say about balancing work, family, and ambition.

]]>In this candid episode of We’re Not Recording, Roxanne Petraeus—Ethena’s CEO and an expectant mom—joins VP of People Melanie Naranjo to unpack the real, often avoided conversations around parental leave. Together they explore the tension between business needs and human realities, from the fear of announcing a pregnancy to the unspoken pressure on women to “do it all.” They question toxic positivity around maternity leave, challenge outdated assumptions about ambition, and share what it actually looks like to build fair, flexible policies without losing honesty or empathy. It’s a grounded, funny, and refreshingly real look at what leaders and employees both wish they could say about balancing work, family, and ambition.

]]>5be18541-27c5-46a3-8720-d485a1b5c98eThu, 30 Oct 2025 05:30:00 -040034:44falsefull4545Everyone Needs an Executive Coach — and Maybe a Policy on Protests?Everyone Needs an Executive Coach — and Maybe a Policy on Protests?In this episode of We’re Not Recording, Roxanne Petraeus and Melanie Naranjo dive into the surprising parallels between executive coaching and leadership therapy—and why every founder should probably have one. Roxanne reflects on how bringing in a coach early helped her and her co-founder navigate growing pains, communication gaps, and the emotional turbulence of scaling a company through big transitions like AI. From there, the conversation takes a sharp turn into modern workplace ethics: how should companies handle employees who attend protests or post activism on LinkedIn? The hosts debate where free expression ends and company values begin, exploring real examples of when social media behavior crossed the line. It’s candid, nuanced, and a little spicy—exactly what you’d expect when compliance meets real life.

]]>In this episode of We’re Not Recording, Roxanne Petraeus and Melanie Naranjo dive into the surprising parallels between executive coaching and leadership therapy—and why every founder should probably have one. Roxanne reflects on how bringing in a coach early helped her and her co-founder navigate growing pains, communication gaps, and the emotional turbulence of scaling a company through big transitions like AI. From there, the conversation takes a sharp turn into modern workplace ethics: how should companies handle employees who attend protests or post activism on LinkedIn? The hosts debate where free expression ends and company values begin, exploring real examples of when social media behavior crossed the line. It’s candid, nuanced, and a little spicy—exactly what you’d expect when compliance meets real life.

]]>ee1ba86e-20b9-4ad3-b856-10e8cf10698aFri, 24 Oct 2025 09:00:00 -040027:55falsefull4444Company Culture Alignment Over Culture Optics w/ Ian WhiteCompany Culture Alignment Over Culture Optics w/ Ian WhiteIn this episode of We’re Not Recording, hosts Roxanne Petraeus (CEO @ Ethena) and Melanie Naranjo (VP of People @ Ethena) sit down with Ian White, Founder & CEO/CTO of ChartHop — and former actor turned tech leader — to unpack what truly drives healthy, high-performing organizations.

They dive into:


Why CEO–CPO alignment matters more than ping-pong perks or culture slogans


How long-term people strategies compound like investments (even when short-term wins tempt you)


The fine line between transparency and overexposure inside a company


Why team offsites often miss the point — and how to build real alignment instead


How improv, acting, and vulnerability translate into better leadership


From offsites and org design to accountability and trust, this conversation is a masterclass in building culture that lasts — not one that just looks good on paper.


And yes, they debate possum cafés, rabies myths, and the eternal question: Should everyone at work really take an improv class?

]]>In this episode of We’re Not Recording, hosts Roxanne Petraeus (CEO @ Ethena) and Melanie Naranjo (VP of People @ Ethena) sit down with Ian White, Founder & CEO/CTO of ChartHop — and former actor turned tech leader — to unpack what truly drives healthy, high-performing organizations.

They dive into:


Why CEO–CPO alignment matters more than ping-pong perks or culture slogans


How long-term people strategies compound like investments (even when short-term wins tempt you)


The fine line between transparency and overexposure inside a company


Why team offsites often miss the point — and how to build real alignment instead


How improv, acting, and vulnerability translate into better leadership


From offsites and org design to accountability and trust, this conversation is a masterclass in building culture that lasts — not one that just looks good on paper.


And yes, they debate possum cafés, rabies myths, and the eternal question: Should everyone at work really take an improv class?

]]>c6a4a43f-5146-43cc-9207-3019c1f7d5c4Thu, 23 Oct 2025 05:30:00 -040033:50falsefull4343Leading Change Without Losing TrustLeading Change Without Losing TrustWhat does it really take to lead through change without breaking the trust that makes leadership work? Roxanne Petraeus (CEO @ Ethena) and Melanie Naranjo (VP of People) get personal about tough feedback, cultural transformation, and the messy balance between honesty and empathy.

From HR messages that accidentally sound like resistance to leadership offsites built around connection—not KPIs—this episode dives into what happens when growth demands vulnerability. Expect candid moments, self-deprecating humor, and a few brilliant insights on how to keep trust intact when everything’s shifting under your feet.


Topics: feedback that lands, psychological safety, leadership dynamics, HR perception, motivating leaders, AI in HR, and the emotional side of organizational change.

]]>What does it really take to lead through change without breaking the trust that makes leadership work? Roxanne Petraeus (CEO @ Ethena) and Melanie Naranjo (VP of People) get personal about tough feedback, cultural transformation, and the messy balance between honesty and empathy.

From HR messages that accidentally sound like resistance to leadership offsites built around connection—not KPIs—this episode dives into what happens when growth demands vulnerability. Expect candid moments, self-deprecating humor, and a few brilliant insights on how to keep trust intact when everything’s shifting under your feet.


Topics: feedback that lands, psychological safety, leadership dynamics, HR perception, motivating leaders, AI in HR, and the emotional side of organizational change.

]]>39f26929-0e32-43d0-9e0e-6855e03ee3beThu, 16 Oct 2025 05:30:00 -040031:12falsefull4242Brex: From Scaling Fast to Recalibrating Deep W/ Heather DunnBrex: From Scaling Fast to Recalibrating Deep W/ Heather DunnBrex grew fast — maybe too fast. When Heather Dunn stepped in as Chief People Officer, the company was fresh off hypergrowth, layoffs, and a complete rebuild of its operating model. In this episode, Heather opens up about what it takes to lead through turbulence, rebuild trust after hard decisions, and recalibrate a culture that once prized speed above all else.

From interviewing founders for values alignment to handling executive scandals and rethinking performance reviews, Heather shares how Brex went from scaling fast to scaling intentionally — and what it taught her about leadership, resilience, and the art of transparency.


If you’ve ever wondered how to balance ambition with stability, or how to rebuild employee trust after big change, this one’s for you.

]]>Brex grew fast — maybe too fast. When Heather Dunn stepped in as Chief People Officer, the company was fresh off hypergrowth, layoffs, and a complete rebuild of its operating model. In this episode, Heather opens up about what it takes to lead through turbulence, rebuild trust after hard decisions, and recalibrate a culture that once prized speed above all else.

From interviewing founders for values alignment to handling executive scandals and rethinking performance reviews, Heather shares how Brex went from scaling fast to scaling intentionally — and what it taught her about leadership, resilience, and the art of transparency.


If you’ve ever wondered how to balance ambition with stability, or how to rebuild employee trust after big change, this one’s for you.

]]>96ba2cb7-904b-44b7-98c7-b2dff0a1b228Thu, 09 Oct 2025 05:30:00 -040038:18falsefull4141How the CEO ‘Roxanne’ Does Her Own Performance ReviewHow the CEO ‘Roxanne’ Does Her Own Performance ReviewMost CEOs would rather eat tax forms than fill out a performance review. Roxanne Petraeus is no exception. In this episode, Melanie corners Roxanne into doing the one thing she dreads most: completing her own self-assessment live, on mic.

What follows is equal parts therapy session, leadership masterclass, and roast. Roxanne reveals why structured processes feel like her kryptonite, how she balances vision with chaos, and why reacting fast might be her real superpower. Melanie doesn’t hold back either—pushing, prodding, and pointing out the blind spots only your Chief People Officer would dare mention.

]]>Most CEOs would rather eat tax forms than fill out a performance review. Roxanne Petraeus is no exception. In this episode, Melanie corners Roxanne into doing the one thing she dreads most: completing her own self-assessment live, on mic.

What follows is equal parts therapy session, leadership masterclass, and roast. Roxanne reveals why structured processes feel like her kryptonite, how she balances vision with chaos, and why reacting fast might be her real superpower. Melanie doesn’t hold back either—pushing, prodding, and pointing out the blind spots only your Chief People Officer would dare mention.

]]>173f5dea-20b9-486a-9d47-19e770d118d4Thu, 02 Oct 2025 05:30:00 -040025:55falsefull4040Posting Through the Fear: HR, Grief & Going Viral W/Justin CliffordPosting Through the Fear: HR, Grief & Going Viral W/Justin CliffordRoxanne and Melanie sit down with Justin Clifford (CEO @ Bereave) to unpack what happens when the personal smashes into the professional. From six weeks of bereavement leave for a pet, to the impossible art of firing “well,” to the chaos of going viral on LinkedIn—this episode dives into HR’s messiest gray areas. Expect laughs, discomfort, and maybe a few “did they just say that?” moments as we talk grief, culture, and why posting through the fear might be the only way forward.

]]>Roxanne and Melanie sit down with Justin Clifford (CEO @ Bereave) to unpack what happens when the personal smashes into the professional. From six weeks of bereavement leave for a pet, to the impossible art of firing “well,” to the chaos of going viral on LinkedIn—this episode dives into HR’s messiest gray areas. Expect laughs, discomfort, and maybe a few “did they just say that?” moments as we talk grief, culture, and why posting through the fear might be the only way forward.

]]>db8c1c01-e465-47f0-9fd5-30ea3a310b3bThu, 25 Sep 2025 05:30:00 -040039:30falsefull3939Spicy Takes: College, Unlimited PTO, and Work Conversations Gone Off the RailsSpicy Takes: College, Unlimited PTO, and Work Conversations Gone Off the RailsAre college degrees even still relevant to get a job? Unlimited PTO might actually work. And the way we talk at work? Let’s just say disagreements escalate a lot faster than they used to. From clashing opinions online to tension creeping into team meetings, it feels like workplace conversations have a new edge. We unpack it all—unfiltered and a little messy.

]]>Are college degrees even still relevant to get a job? Unlimited PTO might actually work. And the way we talk at work? Let’s just say disagreements escalate a lot faster than they used to. From clashing opinions online to tension creeping into team meetings, it feels like workplace conversations have a new edge. We unpack it all—unfiltered and a little messy.

]]>d42566d9-8649-448b-bb81-f5ef63dcd7d6Thu, 18 Sep 2025 05:30:00 -040023:22falsefull3838How a People-First CEO Hires, Handles Crises, And Owns Mistakes W/Ben SesserHow a People-First CEO Hires, Handles Crises, And Owns Mistakes W/Ben SesserWhat does it really look like when a CEO leads with people first?

In this episode, Ben Sesser — CEO & co-founder of BrightHire — sits down with Roxanne Petraeus and Melanie Naranjo to unpack the realities of modern leadership. From navigating PR crises and taking ownership of mistakes, to staying calm under pressure and hiring with intention, Ben shares candid insights from building a company used by 600+ organizations worldwide.

The conversation touches on vulnerability, accountability, and the hidden weight of being a CEO — while also digging into practical hiring strategies, structured interviews, and the future of AI in recruiting. Whether you’re scaling a startup or leading a team through uncertainty, this episode delivers both human perspective and tactical takeaways.

]]>What does it really look like when a CEO leads with people first?

In this episode, Ben Sesser — CEO & co-founder of BrightHire — sits down with Roxanne Petraeus and Melanie Naranjo to unpack the realities of modern leadership. From navigating PR crises and taking ownership of mistakes, to staying calm under pressure and hiring with intention, Ben shares candid insights from building a company used by 600+ organizations worldwide.

The conversation touches on vulnerability, accountability, and the hidden weight of being a CEO — while also digging into practical hiring strategies, structured interviews, and the future of AI in recruiting. Whether you’re scaling a startup or leading a team through uncertainty, this episode delivers both human perspective and tactical takeaways.

]]>8f940378-a656-404b-a5d9-2d3430cfb105Thu, 11 Sep 2025 05:30:00 -040038:05falsefull3737Why HR Belongs in the Boardroom W/Katelin HollowayWhy HR Belongs in the Boardroom W/Katelin HollowayIn this episode of We’re not recording, Roxanne Petraeus and Melanie Naranjo explore why HR leaders deserve a permanent seat in the boardroom. With guest Katelin Holloway (Founding Partner at 776, former Reddit HR exec), the conversation unpacks how people strategy drives business outcomes, why culture clarity matters more than perks, and how HR’s influence expands when leaders move beyond compliance into performance.

From the myth of “People Ops rebrands” to the real lessons of the Netflix culture deck, Katelin makes the case for why HR leaders can’t just track payroll—they should be shaping company strategy. And she explains how that boardroom perspective inspired her pivot into investing, where she’s backing the next generation of founders and making the case for funding women.

]]>In this episode of We’re not recording, Roxanne Petraeus and Melanie Naranjo explore why HR leaders deserve a permanent seat in the boardroom. With guest Katelin Holloway (Founding Partner at 776, former Reddit HR exec), the conversation unpacks how people strategy drives business outcomes, why culture clarity matters more than perks, and how HR’s influence expands when leaders move beyond compliance into performance.

From the myth of “People Ops rebrands” to the real lessons of the Netflix culture deck, Katelin makes the case for why HR leaders can’t just track payroll—they should be shaping company strategy. And she explains how that boardroom perspective inspired her pivot into investing, where she’s backing the next generation of founders and making the case for funding women.

]]>b0e8a7fe-3466-4b86-a459-c49e759edc3fThu, 04 Sep 2025 05:30:00 -040030:28falsefull3636Perks, Paychecks, and Pissed-Off Employees W/Kelli DragovichPerks, Paychecks, and Pissed-Off Employees W/Kelli DragovichRoxanne Petraeus and Melanie Naranjo sit down with Kelli Dragovich, four-time CPO and co-creator of HR Heretics, for a candid conversation about today’s toughest workplace challenges.

They unpack:


Why traditional benefits often backfire (and what actually matters most to employees).


The rise in hostility between workers and leaders—from viral CEO takedowns to candidate feedback.


How LinkedIn can turn into a battleground (even over treadmill desks).


Why younger generations won’t tolerate toxic workplaces—no matter the paycheck.


From plain-speak communication to the “ultimate benefit” of working with great people, this episode gets real about how companies and employees can find common ground in a tense environment.

]]>Roxanne Petraeus and Melanie Naranjo sit down with Kelli Dragovich, four-time CPO and co-creator of HR Heretics, for a candid conversation about today’s toughest workplace challenges.

They unpack:


Why traditional benefits often backfire (and what actually matters most to employees).


The rise in hostility between workers and leaders—from viral CEO takedowns to candidate feedback.


How LinkedIn can turn into a battleground (even over treadmill desks).


Why younger generations won’t tolerate toxic workplaces—no matter the paycheck.


From plain-speak communication to the “ultimate benefit” of working with great people, this episode gets real about how companies and employees can find common ground in a tense environment.

]]>88b6e713-cef7-45f0-bed1-791bbb2d73e0Thu, 28 Aug 2025 05:30:00 -040015:41falsefull3535The Wildest HR “Oops” Moments from LinkedInThe Wildest HR “Oops” Moments from LinkedInLayoffs announced to the wrong people. A CEO’s very personal voicemail sent company-wide. Salary spreadsheets dropped in Slack for all to see. Roxanne Petraeus and Melanie Naranjo react to LinkedIn’s juiciest workplace horror stories — the kind you can’t unhear.

]]>Layoffs announced to the wrong people. A CEO’s very personal voicemail sent company-wide. Salary spreadsheets dropped in Slack for all to see. Roxanne Petraeus and Melanie Naranjo react to LinkedIn’s juiciest workplace horror stories — the kind you can’t unhear.

]]>614aec7d-8941-499a-a412-af2b0034f8b8Thu, 21 Aug 2025 05:30:00 -040027:30falsefull3434Your AI Just Took Compliance TrainingYour AI Just Took Compliance TrainingRoxanne and Melanie go down the rabbit hole of AI Agent Mode—yes, the one that can take your compliance training for you. What starts as a conversation about fake receipts turns into a bigger question: when tech makes it easier to cheat, do more people cheat? They swap McKinsey expense horror stories, debate Netflix vs. Army-style trust models, and wonder if the real fix isn’t more controls, but better culture. Plus, a detour into teenage fanfiction ethics and why sometimes the “solution” in compliance is just having the uncomfortable conversation.

]]>Roxanne and Melanie go down the rabbit hole of AI Agent Mode—yes, the one that can take your compliance training for you. What starts as a conversation about fake receipts turns into a bigger question: when tech makes it easier to cheat, do more people cheat? They swap McKinsey expense horror stories, debate Netflix vs. Army-style trust models, and wonder if the real fix isn’t more controls, but better culture. Plus, a detour into teenage fanfiction ethics and why sometimes the “solution” in compliance is just having the uncomfortable conversation.

]]>79306deb-0872-4398-998f-e7e6f01c8f06Thu, 14 Aug 2025 08:00:00 -040025:00falsefull3333Managers Revolt Over AI in Performance Reviews W/Ashley HerdManagers Revolt Over AI in Performance Reviews W/Ashley HerdWhen Ethena announced it would start including “AI fluency” in performance reviews, half the managers pushed back—hard. Roxanne Petraeus and Melanie Naranjo, joined by Ashley Herd of Manager Method, unpack why leadership thought AI adoption was on track while managers felt blindsided.

They dig into the disconnect between CEOs, managers, and employees, the psychology behind AI resistance, and how to bridge the gap with specifics, motivation, and real-world wins. Whether you’re in HR, management, or just AI-curious, this candid conversation is packed with lessons on change management in the age of AI.

]]>When Ethena announced it would start including “AI fluency” in performance reviews, half the managers pushed back—hard. Roxanne Petraeus and Melanie Naranjo, joined by Ashley Herd of Manager Method, unpack why leadership thought AI adoption was on track while managers felt blindsided.

They dig into the disconnect between CEOs, managers, and employees, the psychology behind AI resistance, and how to bridge the gap with specifics, motivation, and real-world wins. Whether you’re in HR, management, or just AI-curious, this candid conversation is packed with lessons on change management in the age of AI.

]]>24bd04d4-65c4-41bc-b9f7-06ed17b15bd4Thu, 14 Aug 2025 05:30:00 -040029:17falsefull3232What Could Possibly Go Wrong? Ditch the Managers, Skip a Generation, Almost Hire Spies. W/ Heather DoshayWhat Could Possibly Go Wrong? Ditch the Managers, Skip a Generation, Almost Hire Spies. W/ Heather DoshayIn this spicy episode, Roxanne and Melanie sit down with Heather Doshay, Partner and Head of Talent at SignalFire, to unpack the most chaotic headlines in hiring today. Should you really fire all your middle managers? Is Gen Z being unfairly iced out—or just caught in an economic squeeze? And how close did one company come to hiring a North Korean spy? From AI deepfakes to communication breakdowns, Heather brings real talk, real stories, and real solutions. If you’re hiring—or hoping to get hired—you’ll want to listen closely.

]]>In this spicy episode, Roxanne and Melanie sit down with Heather Doshay, Partner and Head of Talent at SignalFire, to unpack the most chaotic headlines in hiring today. Should you really fire all your middle managers? Is Gen Z being unfairly iced out—or just caught in an economic squeeze? And how close did one company come to hiring a North Korean spy? From AI deepfakes to communication breakdowns, Heather brings real talk, real stories, and real solutions. If you’re hiring—or hoping to get hired—you’ll want to listen closely.

]]>5a679dbe-cbd6-4414-8cb8-a25252938d10Thu, 07 Aug 2025 05:30:00 -040030:22falsefull3131Not Another AI Hype Episode: Just Tools That Actually Work w/Emily Mabie from @ZapierNot Another AI Hype Episode: Just Tools That Actually Work w/Emily Mabie from @ZapierNo buzzwords. No “AI will change everything” monologues. Just three people—Roxanne, Melanie, and Emily—talking about the actual AI tools they use to save time (and sanity). Emily Mabie from Zapier shares how she automated Slack reminders, built 56 bots (casually), and uses GPTs to make workflows smoother—not weirder. Melanie admits where she’s still stuck. Roxanne finds out that even she might need a bot or two. If you’ve ever thought, I should be automating this, this episode is your starting line.

]]>No buzzwords. No “AI will change everything” monologues. Just three people—Roxanne, Melanie, and Emily—talking about the actual AI tools they use to save time (and sanity). Emily Mabie from Zapier shares how she automated Slack reminders, built 56 bots (casually), and uses GPTs to make workflows smoother—not weirder. Melanie admits where she’s still stuck. Roxanne finds out that even she might need a bot or two. If you’ve ever thought, I should be automating this, this episode is your starting line.

]]>a4c2c114-ac4e-4e3e-b60f-ebd574574199Thu, 31 Jul 2025 05:30:00 -040029:32falsefull3030Psychological Safety, Feedback Drama, and Other Leadership Nightmares w/Gina des CognetsPsychological Safety, Feedback Drama, and Other Leadership Nightmares w/Gina des CognetsRoxanne and Melanie sit down with Gina des Cognets to unpack why feedback can feel like a landmine—and what to do when it is. They get into fear on leadership teams, the curse of perfectionism, how to spot when the bar is set too high (or too low), and what happens when psychological safety isn't what you think it is. Also: red-yellow-green performance flags, agency vs. victim mindset.

]]>Roxanne and Melanie sit down with Gina des Cognets to unpack why feedback can feel like a landmine—and what to do when it is. They get into fear on leadership teams, the curse of perfectionism, how to spot when the bar is set too high (or too low), and what happens when psychological safety isn't what you think it is. Also: red-yellow-green performance flags, agency vs. victim mindset.

]]>e54b4e4f-e297-413b-88c2-646817118bf7Thu, 24 Jul 2025 05:30:00 -040029:05falsefull2929We Really Didn’t Want to Talk About the Coldplay ThingWe Really Didn’t Want to Talk About the Coldplay ThingThis isn’t the episode we wanted to record, but the Coldplay CEO-CPO news took over our feeds—and apparently everyone else's too. So here we are. Roxanne and Melanie talk about why these kinds of stories hit a nerve, how power and gender dynamics show up at work, and what makes this moment feel especially complicated. Not a takedown, not a think piece—just two people trying to process something uncomfortable, out loud.

]]>This isn’t the episode we wanted to record, but the Coldplay CEO-CPO news took over our feeds—and apparently everyone else's too. So here we are. Roxanne and Melanie talk about why these kinds of stories hit a nerve, how power and gender dynamics show up at work, and what makes this moment feel especially complicated. Not a takedown, not a think piece—just two people trying to process something uncomfortable, out loud.

]]>a72e1082-28c5-45ab-986e-cf6770a88118Tue, 22 Jul 2025 09:00:00 -040030:37falsefull2828Can a leader be too authentic? W/ Christina LuconiCan a leader be too authentic? W/ Christina LuconiIn this episode, Roxanne chats with Christina Luconi — former Chief People Officer at Rapid7 and current startup whisperer — about entitlement in the workplace, what authenticity actually looks like, and why being liked is overrated when you’re trying to build real culture. Christina shares war stories from decades in tech, including the infamous “mom called me” moment, her journey toward radical openness, and what people leaders get wrong about influence and impact.

]]>In this episode, Roxanne chats with Christina Luconi — former Chief People Officer at Rapid7 and current startup whisperer — about entitlement in the workplace, what authenticity actually looks like, and why being liked is overrated when you’re trying to build real culture. Christina shares war stories from decades in tech, including the infamous “mom called me” moment, her journey toward radical openness, and what people leaders get wrong about influence and impact.

]]>975d833c-ba4f-4f21-871c-a750b679f965Thu, 17 Jul 2025 05:30:00 -040025:03falsefull2727What to do when facing an incompetent managerWhat to do when facing an incompetent managerIn this podcast episode, Roxanne and Melanie explore workplace dynamics, focusing on disagreements between employees and managers, as well as differing work philosophies. But, in the case where a manager is truly incompetent, what should you do? Should you approach their manager directly? Confront them? Or should you simply quit and leave? Tune in to find out!

]]>In this podcast episode, Roxanne and Melanie explore workplace dynamics, focusing on disagreements between employees and managers, as well as differing work philosophies. But, in the case where a manager is truly incompetent, what should you do? Should you approach their manager directly? Confront them? Or should you simply quit and leave? Tune in to find out!

]]>283ab2fd-a4cc-4b44-88f7-e79fb2dd20e4Thu, 10 Jul 2025 05:30:00 -040024:36falsefull2626Short employment stintsShort employment stintsIn this conversation, Roxanne and Melanie discuss short employment stints, sharing their experiences and examining societal judgments. They explore the implications of hiring candidates with brief job histories and the risks involved, emphasizing the need for a good fit between employers and employees. The discussion also touches on a recent LinkedIn controversy involving Roxanne, highlighting challenges in public discourse and the importance of empathy in professional interactions.

]]>In this conversation, Roxanne and Melanie discuss short employment stints, sharing their experiences and examining societal judgments. They explore the implications of hiring candidates with brief job histories and the risks involved, emphasizing the need for a good fit between employers and employees. The discussion also touches on a recent LinkedIn controversy involving Roxanne, highlighting challenges in public discourse and the importance of empathy in professional interactions.

]]>17948b2d-07c9-4320-a8c3-d3e5d3a80406Thu, 03 Jul 2025 05:30:00 -040025:26falsefull2525A hiring process gone wrongA hiring process gone wrongIn this conversation, Roxanne and Melanie discuss a hiring process that went awry. It seemed as though a candidate was on track to be hired, but over the weekend, some back-channel information reached Roxanne that changed everything. They talk about the excitement of potentially moving forward with the hire and the disappointment of having to retract that decision when new, startling information became available. They also reflect on what could have been done differently.

]]>In this conversation, Roxanne and Melanie discuss a hiring process that went awry. It seemed as though a candidate was on track to be hired, but over the weekend, some back-channel information reached Roxanne that changed everything. They talk about the excitement of potentially moving forward with the hire and the disappointment of having to retract that decision when new, startling information became available. They also reflect on what could have been done differently.

]]>39ab85f7-47ca-451e-a067-4905ab961ed3Thu, 26 Jun 2025 05:30:00 -040021:13falsefull2424What a scathing Glassdoor review says about your company culture w/Ashley HerdWhat a scathing Glassdoor review says about your company culture w/Ashley HerdAshley Herd, Melanie Naranjo, and Roxanne begin a discussion on leadership, empathy, and employee relations. They explore the balance between employee perks and performance, as well as what happens when a company needs to retract those perks. The conversation then shifts to a Glassdoor review criticizing a candidate's interview experience, which took place while Roxanne was conducting the interview on a treadmill.

]]>Ashley Herd, Melanie Naranjo, and Roxanne begin a discussion on leadership, empathy, and employee relations. They explore the balance between employee perks and performance, as well as what happens when a company needs to retract those perks. The conversation then shifts to a Glassdoor review criticizing a candidate's interview experience, which took place while Roxanne was conducting the interview on a treadmill.

]]>4dbb1b7c-7025-4d17-9d6c-101ae3b2362fThu, 19 Jun 2025 05:30:00 -040029:55falsefull2323Influencing leaders w/ Carrie Berg from @TeladocInfluencing leaders w/ Carrie Berg from @TeladocCarrie Berg from Teladoc Health discusses leadership, growth mindset, and gender dynamics in the workplace. She emphasizes the need for empathy in leadership and how men's and women's approaches to influence differ. The discussion highlights the challenges women face in leadership roles, the importance of emotional intelligence, self-awareness, and effective communication. Roxanne, Melanie, and Carrie share practical tips for improving leadership skills and promoting a supportive corporate culture, while stressing the value of feedback and accountability.

]]>Carrie Berg from Teladoc Health discusses leadership, growth mindset, and gender dynamics in the workplace. She emphasizes the need for empathy in leadership and how men's and women's approaches to influence differ. The discussion highlights the challenges women face in leadership roles, the importance of emotional intelligence, self-awareness, and effective communication. Roxanne, Melanie, and Carrie share practical tips for improving leadership skills and promoting a supportive corporate culture, while stressing the value of feedback and accountability.

]]>5a60e820-0d17-4170-b1d6-81c9640dd87bThu, 12 Jun 2025 05:30:00 -040028:26falsefull2222Should you have AI requirements when hiring? w/ Anna Binder from AsanaShould you have AI requirements when hiring? w/ Anna Binder from AsanaRoxanne, Anna, and Melanie discuss HR, leadership, and AI's role in the workplace, who could it potentially replace and how can employees prepare themselves to get hired. They talk about the increasing importance of AI for career advancement, aligning with business objectives, and what role AI curiosity plays in getting hired or promoted.

]]>Roxanne, Anna, and Melanie discuss HR, leadership, and AI's role in the workplace, who could it potentially replace and how can employees prepare themselves to get hired. They talk about the increasing importance of AI for career advancement, aligning with business objectives, and what role AI curiosity plays in getting hired or promoted.

]]>c65f36aa-c58c-43a6-99f2-a1eedbe8db0bThu, 05 Jun 2025 05:30:00 -040029:14falsefull2121Culture problem - When an AI screenshot goes viralCulture problem - When an AI screenshot goes viralIn this conversation, Roxanne and Melanie discuss various themes related to leadership and company culture, as well as the impact of AI on job security. Their discussion begins with an analysis of a hypothetical case study involving a VP of Marketing who accidentally shares a post about AI taking over jobs during a screen-sharing session while addressing employees at his university.

]]>In this conversation, Roxanne and Melanie discuss various themes related to leadership and company culture, as well as the impact of AI on job security. Their discussion begins with an analysis of a hypothetical case study involving a VP of Marketing who accidentally shares a post about AI taking over jobs during a screen-sharing session while addressing employees at his university.

]]>1a37113b-2131-474c-9589-75dea9be462cThu, 29 May 2025 05:30:00 -040023:19falsefull2020An ethical revolution w/ Rob ChesnutAn ethical revolution w/ Rob ChesnutRoxanne and Rob Chesnut discuss the complexities of business ethics, emphasizing integrity, the challenges of ethical decision-making, and the importance of leadership in setting ethical standards. They share real-world examples, including an incident at eBay, and explore the impact of external events on company culture. The conversation highlights the need for clear expectations, the role of artificial intelligence in the workplace, and the necessity for leaders to model ethical behavior and address concerns effectively.

]]>Roxanne and Rob Chesnut discuss the complexities of business ethics, emphasizing integrity, the challenges of ethical decision-making, and the importance of leadership in setting ethical standards. They share real-world examples, including an incident at eBay, and explore the impact of external events on company culture. The conversation highlights the need for clear expectations, the role of artificial intelligence in the workplace, and the necessity for leaders to model ethical behavior and address concerns effectively.

]]>e951308e-b48b-4505-a181-f1e241b7810fThu, 22 May 2025 05:30:00 -040030:54falsefull1919The position of people leadersThe position of people leadersMelanie and Roxanne discuss the evolving role of Human Resources, particularly the Chief People Officer. They emphasize the need for alignment between people and business strategies, clear roles, collaboration, productive feedback, and the importance of trust and proactive problem-solving in leadership.

]]>Melanie and Roxanne discuss the evolving role of Human Resources, particularly the Chief People Officer. They emphasize the need for alignment between people and business strategies, clear roles, collaboration, productive feedback, and the importance of trust and proactive problem-solving in leadership.

]]>8f20aff3-6f08-42b8-bf38-30805eeb6428Thu, 15 May 2025 05:30:00 -040025:11falsefull1818Work/Life balance?Work/Life balance?Melanie and Roxanne discuss the concept of work-life balance. They explore how much emphasis should be placed on work compared to personal life. Is it necessary to establish clear boundaries, or should the balance be more fluid and flexible? Different individuals and generations define work-life balance in various ways. Therefore, the question is: how can we clearly define and communicate our expectations regarding this balance?

]]>Melanie and Roxanne discuss the concept of work-life balance. They explore how much emphasis should be placed on work compared to personal life. Is it necessary to establish clear boundaries, or should the balance be more fluid and flexible? Different individuals and generations define work-life balance in various ways. Therefore, the question is: how can we clearly define and communicate our expectations regarding this balance?

]]>7177b9aa-bb44-4296-a831-4a4b8592455eThu, 08 May 2025 05:30:00 -040021:22falsefull1717Onboarding talent and investing in their future w/ Ali PartoviOnboarding talent and investing in their future w/ Ali PartoviAli Partovi is a long-time investor in Ethena and an early backer of companies such as Uber, Airbnb, Facebook, Zappos, and Dropbox. He talks about how he identifies and invests in talent, emphasizing the importance of gender and racial diversity in tech. He believes that early-age computer science education can help address the gender diversity pipeline issue. Ali also shares a personal experience as a founder of a tech company, telling us about a significant mistake he made when trying to sell his company to Steve Jobs.

]]>Ali Partovi is a long-time investor in Ethena and an early backer of companies such as Uber, Airbnb, Facebook, Zappos, and Dropbox. He talks about how he identifies and invests in talent, emphasizing the importance of gender and racial diversity in tech. He believes that early-age computer science education can help address the gender diversity pipeline issue. Ali also shares a personal experience as a founder of a tech company, telling us about a significant mistake he made when trying to sell his company to Steve Jobs.

]]>fa621083-a8c1-4229-a4b0-084b1449be35Thu, 01 May 2025 05:30:00 -040032:07falsefull1616A forced happy workplaceA forced happy workplaceMelanie and Roxanne discuss employee engagement in corporate culture and 'forced fun.' Instead, aligning employee satisfaction with performance metrics, emphasizing that genuine employee engagement reflects in high performance, not just happiness.

]]>Melanie and Roxanne discuss employee engagement in corporate culture and 'forced fun.' Instead, aligning employee satisfaction with performance metrics, emphasizing that genuine employee engagement reflects in high performance, not just happiness.

]]>2c282bf0-aea5-4a5e-a528-86d54cef5f40Thu, 24 Apr 2025 05:30:00 -040014:29falsefull1515Reducing barriers of communication w/ Amy JinReducing barriers of communication w/ Amy JinRoxanne and Amy discuss effective team communication and leadership, sharing strategies like visual cues. And utilizing the six thinking hats method for balanced leadership.

]]>Roxanne and Amy discuss effective team communication and leadership, sharing strategies like visual cues. And utilizing the six thinking hats method for balanced leadership.

]]>3f695775-4f36-4b70-9c2c-cddf39024bf6Thu, 17 Apr 2025 05:30:00 -040021:59falsefull1414AI’s effect on managersAI’s effect on managersRoxanne and Melanie discuss how artificial intelligence (AI) is transforming workplace dynamics by raising expectations for new employees and changing managers' roles from trainers to coaches.

]]>Roxanne and Melanie discuss how artificial intelligence (AI) is transforming workplace dynamics by raising expectations for new employees and changing managers' roles from trainers to coaches.

]]>1b4fc812-7d56-4a4c-b32a-eb33f010ced3Fri, 11 Apr 2025 05:30:00 -040020:25falsefull1313Meta communication & intent w/ Amy JinMeta communication & intent w/ Amy JinRoxanne and Amy discuss the importance of different personality types within a team, the value of naming emotions to facilitate better communication, and practical tools for improving interpersonal interactions, being mindful with emotional intelligence in navigating communication challenges you may not even know exist in your work interactions.

]]>Roxanne and Amy discuss the importance of different personality types within a team, the value of naming emotions to facilitate better communication, and practical tools for improving interpersonal interactions, being mindful with emotional intelligence in navigating communication challenges you may not even know exist in your work interactions.

]]>77f9a699-e686-4cda-baf2-1788e28e894eThu, 10 Apr 2025 05:30:00 -040022:35falsefull1212Making AI work for you w/ Robin & John HortonMaking AI work for you w/ Robin & John HortonRoxanne joins husband-and-wife team John and Robin Horton to discuss AI technology use cases, what's useful, and what's a waste of time. Expected Parrot, an AI research company created by John and Robin, has a unique approach to utilizing AI as a research tool for testing experiments.

]]>Roxanne joins husband-and-wife team John and Robin Horton to discuss AI technology use cases, what's useful, and what's a waste of time. Expected Parrot, an AI research company created by John and Robin, has a unique approach to utilizing AI as a research tool for testing experiments.

]]>95e8b7c2-9786-4094-b939-51c51d6614e1Fri, 04 Apr 2025 05:30:00 -040024:19falsefull1111Company Got your Back?Company Got your Back?Melanie and Roxanne discuss employee support - what it means to "have your back", workplace dynamics, and generational expectations. They highlight challenges for women founders, the needs of Gen Z employees, and the importance of clear communication and alignment between company culture and values.

]]>Melanie and Roxanne discuss employee support - what it means to "have your back", workplace dynamics, and generational expectations. They highlight challenges for women founders, the needs of Gen Z employees, and the importance of clear communication and alignment between company culture and values.

]]>6bd924af-9eb3-4a10-8473-492a3febe5bdThu, 03 Apr 2025 05:30:00 -040015:33falsefull1010No salary negotiationsNo salary negotiationsTurning away a rockstar candidate over $5,000 isn’t easy—but those are the stakes with a no-negotiation salary approach. What started as a test quickly became the standard at Ethena, but sticking to it takes conviction. In this episode, Melanie shares how she convinced Roxanne to hold the line, why most companies would cave, and how to maintain the integrity of the program while still attracting top talent.

]]>Turning away a rockstar candidate over $5,000 isn’t easy—but those are the stakes with a no-negotiation salary approach. What started as a test quickly became the standard at Ethena, but sticking to it takes conviction. In this episode, Melanie shares how she convinced Roxanne to hold the line, why most companies would cave, and how to maintain the integrity of the program while still attracting top talent.

]]>db5d167a-aa19-4acf-b9bf-1a854dad1c06Fri, 28 Mar 2025 05:30:00 -040020:15falsefull99Over complicating performanceOver complicating performanceWhat should your management do when an employee is underperforming? What is the process of employee termination? Are there ways to get an underperforming employee on track without demoralizing everyone involved? In this episode, Roxanne & Melanie discuss how to solve how to handle this very delicate and complicated situation.

]]>What should your management do when an employee is underperforming? What is the process of employee termination? Are there ways to get an underperforming employee on track without demoralizing everyone involved? In this episode, Roxanne & Melanie discuss how to solve how to handle this very delicate and complicated situation.

]]>c9052a91-49af-4a27-88c6-fd2d27057f95Thu, 27 Mar 2025 05:30:00 -040029:26falsefull88Ex-Salesforce EVP Leyla Seka’s leadership wisdom.Ex-Salesforce EVP Leyla Seka’s leadership wisdom.It’s an interesting time to be a woman in tech. Whether as a leader or investor, women still face systemic challenges—whether it's being unfairly treated, denied opportunities, or significantly outnumbered. Leyla Seka’s perspective? Fight, work hard, and adapt to the realities of the world—because that’s how real change happens.

During her time at Salesforce, she helped lead the charge for equal pay, laying the foundation for real equity and inclusion in compensation. But progress isn’t just about policy—it’s about being in the room where decisions happen. In this episode, Leyla shares how to get there, why it matters, and the lasting impact of having a seat at the table.

]]>It’s an interesting time to be a woman in tech. Whether as a leader or investor, women still face systemic challenges—whether it's being unfairly treated, denied opportunities, or significantly outnumbered. Leyla Seka’s perspective? Fight, work hard, and adapt to the realities of the world—because that’s how real change happens.

During her time at Salesforce, she helped lead the charge for equal pay, laying the foundation for real equity and inclusion in compensation. But progress isn’t just about policy—it’s about being in the room where decisions happen. In this episode, Leyla shares how to get there, why it matters, and the lasting impact of having a seat at the table.

]]>be7c7eb9-4de3-4c3a-a4cd-e2c896d9d729Thu, 20 Mar 2025 05:30:00 -040025:25falsefull77LinkedIn drama at workLinkedIn drama at workWho knew a post about resume typos could stir up so much drama on LinkedIn? In this episode, Melanie and Roxanne dive into the debate, exploring how typos, presentation, and first impressions shape hiring decisions.

]]>Who knew a post about resume typos could stir up so much drama on LinkedIn? In this episode, Melanie and Roxanne dive into the debate, exploring how typos, presentation, and first impressions shape hiring decisions.

]]>20c56b76-a177-48e3-a7cc-fe37e50a9992Wed, 19 Mar 2025 05:30:00 -040021:56falsefull66Stupid DEI?Stupid DEI?In today’s episode, Melanie and Roxanne unpack the viral headlines around DEI (did Jamie Dimon really call DEI initiatives ‘stupid’?), the real data behind DEI spending, and why talking about its effectiveness shouldn’t be taboo. They also dive into a bigger shift happening in the workplace — and what it means for measuring impact. With automation taking over admin-heavy tasks, are mediocre managers at risk? Will superstar managers handle more direct reports? And what happens when AI raises the bar for entry-level employees?

]]>In today’s episode, Melanie and Roxanne unpack the viral headlines around DEI (did Jamie Dimon really call DEI initiatives ‘stupid’?), the real data behind DEI spending, and why talking about its effectiveness shouldn’t be taboo. They also dive into a bigger shift happening in the workplace — and what it means for measuring impact. With automation taking over admin-heavy tasks, are mediocre managers at risk? Will superstar managers handle more direct reports? And what happens when AI raises the bar for entry-level employees?

]]>c1cda768-e389-4545-8d04-2bf230224607Mon, 17 Mar 2025 05:30:00 -040015:16falsefull55Culture & IRL social connections. w/ Andy Dunn from PieCulture & IRL social connections. w/ Andy Dunn from PieSadness, loneliness, and culture—each deeply shaped by relationships and connections, or lack thereof. Today’s guest, Andy Dunn, co-founder of Bonobos (acquired by Walmart) and author of Burn Rate, shares his journey of entrepreneurship while navigating mental health challenges. The conversation explores loneliness through the lens of modern social dynamics and workplace culture—and how Andy’s latest venture, Pie App, aims to bring real-life connection back into the digital age.

]]>Sadness, loneliness, and culture—each deeply shaped by relationships and connections, or lack thereof. Today’s guest, Andy Dunn, co-founder of Bonobos (acquired by Walmart) and author of Burn Rate, shares his journey of entrepreneurship while navigating mental health challenges. The conversation explores loneliness through the lens of modern social dynamics and workplace culture—and how Andy’s latest venture, Pie App, aims to bring real-life connection back into the digital age.

]]>891fc088-51f2-4268-a8bd-c9c1cec1505cThu, 13 Mar 2025 05:30:00 -040031:24falsefull44Backchanneling & LinkedIn dramaBackchanneling & LinkedIn dramaIs backchanneling a dirty word? In this candid conversation about a common yet controversial pre-hiring practice — backchanneling — Roxanne and Melanie dive into a viral LinkedIn post that sparked debate in the HR community. Does backchanneling signal a lack of trust in a candidate? Speaking from a Qigong retreat, where they’re exploring their own self-awareness, they discuss the best and worst aspects of backchanneling — and whether candidates should do the same.

]]>Is backchanneling a dirty word? In this candid conversation about a common yet controversial pre-hiring practice — backchanneling — Roxanne and Melanie dive into a viral LinkedIn post that sparked debate in the HR community. Does backchanneling signal a lack of trust in a candidate? Speaking from a Qigong retreat, where they’re exploring their own self-awareness, they discuss the best and worst aspects of backchanneling — and whether candidates should do the same.

]]>eb17168c-04f4-4e34-b3ec-69c981c84fefFri, 07 Mar 2025 05:30:00 -040023:55falsefull33To pitch sizzle or steak? w/ Hunter Walk from HomebrewTo pitch sizzle or steak? w/ Hunter Walk from HomebrewIn this candid conversation about what makes a successful founder, Roxanne sits down with prolific early-stage investor, Hunter Walk of Homebrew. Hunter shares that unlike many other VCs, he looks for more “steak” than “sizzle” when being pitched by founders. They discuss how both are important – and it’s crucial that a founder learns how to sell themselves and their company – but humility and substance are often underrated at the early stage. Tune-in and learn what makes a founder irresistible to an investor like Hunter, and why self-awareness and resilience are what take a founder from underdog to incumbent.

]]>In this candid conversation about what makes a successful founder, Roxanne sits down with prolific early-stage investor, Hunter Walk of Homebrew. Hunter shares that unlike many other VCs, he looks for more “steak” than “sizzle” when being pitched by founders. They discuss how both are important – and it’s crucial that a founder learns how to sell themselves and their company – but humility and substance are often underrated at the early stage. Tune-in and learn what makes a founder irresistible to an investor like Hunter, and why self-awareness and resilience are what take a founder from underdog to incumbent.

]]>1496aaf4-b132-4e5a-87d4-b347da769bb4Thu, 06 Mar 2025 05:30:00 -040025:55falsefull22A spicy take on DEIA spicy take on DEIIn this first of many candid conversations, Roxanne and Melanie tackle the topic of DEI training in the workplace...starting with the question, "has DEI training actually worked? "They examine the original goals of DEI and how perception has shifted over time, leading to the backlash we're seeing today. They explore how the overarching aim of DEI and meritocracy is actually one and the same, but operating DEI in a silo has prevented many companies from seeing real change enacted that leads to better business outcomes. Roxanne and Melanie then dive into whether every company truly has a business case for diversity. Finally, they discuss what an effective DEI training should cover and how ultimately, inclusive leadership enables companies to maximize potential and value across their teams.

]]>In this first of many candid conversations, Roxanne and Melanie tackle the topic of DEI training in the workplace...starting with the question, "has DEI training actually worked? "They examine the original goals of DEI and how perception has shifted over time, leading to the backlash we're seeing today. They explore how the overarching aim of DEI and meritocracy is actually one and the same, but operating DEI in a silo has prevented many companies from seeing real change enacted that leads to better business outcomes. Roxanne and Melanie then dive into whether every company truly has a business case for diversity. Finally, they discuss what an effective DEI training should cover and how ultimately, inclusive leadership enables companies to maximize potential and value across their teams.

]]>19deba34-158e-4419-b3f5-b9a4f623401bFri, 28 Feb 2025 09:00:00 -040035:36falsefull11