<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><?xml-stylesheet href="https://feeds.captivate.fm/style.xsl" type="text/xsl"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:googleplay="http://www.google.com/schemas/play-podcasts/1.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" xmlns:podcast="https://podcastindex.org/namespace/1.0"><channel><atom:link href="https://feeds.captivate.fm/fatedmates/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><title><![CDATA[Fated Mates - Romance Books for Novel People]]></title><podcast:guid>30794a5f-d093-5d86-b9e0-218f09156177</podcast:guid><lastBuildDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2026 12:40:42 +0000</lastBuildDate><generator>Captivate.fm</generator><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><copyright><![CDATA[Copyright 2026 Fated Mates]]></copyright><managingEditor>Fated Mates</managingEditor><itunes:summary><![CDATA[The most listened to romance novel podcast, Fated Mates is co-hosted by bestselling author Sarah MacLean and romance critic Jen Prokop. Weekly episodes include romance novel read-alongs and lively discussions of the work of the genre, highlighting the romance novel as a powerful tool in fighting the patriarchy…with absolutely no kink shaming.]]></itunes:summary><image><url>https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg</url><title>Fated Mates - Romance Books for Novel People</title><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net]]></link></image><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><itunes:owner><itunes:name>Fated Mates</itunes:name></itunes:owner><itunes:author>Fated Mates</itunes:author><description>The most listened to romance novel podcast, Fated Mates is co-hosted by bestselling author Sarah MacLean and romance critic Jen Prokop. Weekly episodes include romance novel read-alongs and lively discussions of the work of the genre, highlighting the romance novel as a powerful tool in fighting the patriarchy…with absolutely no kink shaming.</description><link>https://fatedmates.net</link><atom:link href="https://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com" rel="hub"/><itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[A romance recommendation and read-along podcast.]]></itunes:subtitle><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:type>episodic</itunes:type><itunes:category text="Arts"><itunes:category text="Books"/></itunes:category><itunes:category text="Society &amp; Culture"><itunes:category text="Documentary"/></itunes:category><itunes:category text="Arts"></itunes:category><itunes:new-feed-url>https://feeds.captivate.fm/fatedmates/</itunes:new-feed-url><podcast:locked>yes</podcast:locked><podcast:medium>podcast</podcast:medium><podcast:funding url="https://patreon.com/fatedmates">Join our Patreon for bonus episodes and a lively Discord! </podcast:funding><item><title>S08.28: Spring 2026 Preview</title><itunes:title>Spring 2026 Preview</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It’s time to fill those TBR piles again! April means the start of Spring and also another quarterly upcoming romance episode! We’re talking about romances hitting shelves and ereaders during April, May &amp; June 2026! Whether historical, paranormal, contemporary or Romantasy, we’ve got something for everyone in fifty or so recs across every single genre. As a reminder, we haven’t read most of these, but we have big plans!</p><p>If you want more recommendations and more people with whom you can discuss 2026 romance novels, maybe you want to join our Patreon? You get an extra monthly episode from us and access to the incredible readers and brilliant people on the Fated Mates Discord! Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>.</p><p>Our next read along is <em>The Madness of Lord Ian MacKenzie </em>by Jennifer Ashley. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/4rrBS9o" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-madness-of-lord-ian-mackenzie-jennifer-ashley/1102164290" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-madness-of-lord-ian-mackenzie" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-madness-of-lord-ian-mackenzie/id425059580" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780425244463" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</p><p>AUTHORS: Do you have a book coming out in 2026 that you’d like to make sure we know about? Or, are you a debut romance author who’d like to make sure we know about your debut? Fill out the forms here:</p><ul><li><a href="https://forms.gle/Lkx7YpfUjNrh62iW7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2026/2027 Upcoming Romance Novels</a></li><li><a href="https://forms.gle/czyPffYEjQ9dKMoq7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2026 Debut Romance Novels</a></li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Lavinia K. Darcy</strong>, author of <em>Return to Kingscote</em>, available in print or ebook. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/40QPPmk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/return-to-kingscote-lavinia-k-darcy/1148579421" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/return-to-kingscote?sId=d177a055-5035-4edc-ad5d-6f29a5857515&amp;ssId=waH4e6cvutRa2x8KwozpS&amp;cPos=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/return-to-kingscote/id6754346213" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9783000848001" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Metaltail Press</strong>, publishers of SE McPherson’s <em>A Villain’s Hope</em>, available in print or ebook. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3No6EC9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-villains-hope-s-e-mcpherson/1149608743?ean=9798992254341" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/a-villain-s-hope?sId=bcb7d924-35c4-420a-a802-585bcfd5c753&amp;ssId=urBW4v98LLHEhLgnc4CeZ&amp;cPos=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/a-villains-hope/id6760732502" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9798992254334" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Neyha Liu</strong>, author of <em>Midnight at Soulfield</em>, available in print or ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/41biWkB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s time to fill those TBR piles again! April means the start of Spring and also another quarterly upcoming romance episode! We’re talking about romances hitting shelves and ereaders during April, May &amp; June 2026! Whether historical, paranormal, contemporary or Romantasy, we’ve got something for everyone in fifty or so recs across every single genre. As a reminder, we haven’t read most of these, but we have big plans!</p><p>If you want more recommendations and more people with whom you can discuss 2026 romance novels, maybe you want to join our Patreon? You get an extra monthly episode from us and access to the incredible readers and brilliant people on the Fated Mates Discord! Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>.</p><p>Our next read along is <em>The Madness of Lord Ian MacKenzie </em>by Jennifer Ashley. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/4rrBS9o" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-madness-of-lord-ian-mackenzie-jennifer-ashley/1102164290" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-madness-of-lord-ian-mackenzie" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-madness-of-lord-ian-mackenzie/id425059580" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780425244463" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</p><p>AUTHORS: Do you have a book coming out in 2026 that you’d like to make sure we know about? Or, are you a debut romance author who’d like to make sure we know about your debut? Fill out the forms here:</p><ul><li><a href="https://forms.gle/Lkx7YpfUjNrh62iW7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2026/2027 Upcoming Romance Novels</a></li><li><a href="https://forms.gle/czyPffYEjQ9dKMoq7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2026 Debut Romance Novels</a></li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Lavinia K. Darcy</strong>, author of <em>Return to Kingscote</em>, available in print or ebook. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/40QPPmk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/return-to-kingscote-lavinia-k-darcy/1148579421" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/return-to-kingscote?sId=d177a055-5035-4edc-ad5d-6f29a5857515&amp;ssId=waH4e6cvutRa2x8KwozpS&amp;cPos=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/return-to-kingscote/id6754346213" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9783000848001" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Metaltail Press</strong>, publishers of SE McPherson’s <em>A Villain’s Hope</em>, available in print or ebook. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3No6EC9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-villains-hope-s-e-mcpherson/1149608743?ean=9798992254341" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/a-villain-s-hope?sId=bcb7d924-35c4-420a-a802-585bcfd5c753&amp;ssId=urBW4v98LLHEhLgnc4CeZ&amp;cPos=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/a-villains-hope/id6760732502" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9798992254334" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Neyha Liu</strong>, author of <em>Midnight at Soulfield</em>, available in print or ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/41biWkB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">fd364312-1872-4fce-8d66-78a6eecb437f</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2026 23:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/fd364312-1872-4fce-8d66-78a6eecb437f.mp3" length="93723642" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:37:38</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>8</itunes:season><itunes:episode>28</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>28</podcast:episode><podcast:season>8</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-b9ee4584-40b0-4564-8ca9-970214dd0b8c.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S08.27: Romance Baby: Not the Secret Kind</title><itunes:title>Romance Baby: Not the Secret Kind</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It never fails to surprise us when we realize we’ve never talked about a really classic trope even now…eight years in. This week, we’re talking about kids in romance—which we’ve somehow never done before?! We’re covering Romance Babies, Romance Kids, and Single Parents in Romance — but so sorry to the Secret Baby lovers out there, that one deserves its own episode (someday). We’re talking babies, toddlers and teens, the appeal of the single parent romance novel, and that one Erin St. Claire book that Sarah can’t get out of her head.</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, or you want to talk more about Romance Babies/Kids, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com.</a></p><p>Our next read along is <em>The Madness of Lord Ian MacKenzie </em>by Jennifer Ashley. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/4rrBS9o" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-madness-of-lord-ian-mackenzie-jennifer-ashley/1102164290" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-madness-of-lord-ian-mackenzie" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-madness-of-lord-ian-mackenzie/id425059580" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780425244463" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</p><h2>Notes</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The <u><a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/series/silhouette-intimate-moments~14147.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Silhouette Intimate Moments line</a></u> eventually turned into Harlequin Romantic Suspense. Erin St. Claire is one of Sandra Brown’s <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandra_Brown" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">many pen names</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://www.thoughtco.com/history-and-definition-of-wet-nurse-3534100" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wet nurses</a></u> have been around for a very long time, <u><a href="https://www.alimentarium.org/en/story/history-baby-bottles" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">baby bottles not so much</a></u>. I say this only because Sarah said “Bottle service” and <u><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/vegas/comments/157sfep/can_someone_please_explain_to_me_exactly_what/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">that’s something different.</a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://www.esrf.fr/home/news/general/content-news/general/red-and-black-ink-from-egyptian-papyri-unveil-ancient-writing-practices.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Red ink </a></u>has been around for a long time, actually. So maybe that’s how Sophie had access to it during the Regency?</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>So there’s not a whole lot of evidence that <u><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/biology/comments/18lbdse/how_rare_is_it_for_two_people_to_have_the_same/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">birthmarks are hereditary</a></u>. Shocking, I know.</li></ol><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>The Romantasy Letters</strong>, a new kind of romantic fantasy storytelling, delivered right to your door twice monthly. Use the code FATED to get 20% off your year's subscription. <u><a href="https://romantasyletters.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at </a><a href="http://romantasyletters.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">RomantasyLetters.com</a></u><a href="https://romantasyletters.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">.</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>LJ Andrews</strong>, author of <em>Heir of Twisted Lies</em>, available in print or ebook. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/47kAePC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/heir-of-twisted-lies-lj-andrews/1147717484?ean=9780593818701" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/heir-of-twisted-lies" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/heir-of-twisted-lies/id6747734330" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780593818701" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Neyha Liu</strong>, author of <em>Midnight at Soulfield</em>, available in print or ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/41biWkB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Lucy Score</strong>, author of <em>Mistakes Were Made</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/4taSByZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>. Get it <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781728297064" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li></ol><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It never fails to surprise us when we realize we’ve never talked about a really classic trope even now…eight years in. This week, we’re talking about kids in romance—which we’ve somehow never done before?! We’re covering Romance Babies, Romance Kids, and Single Parents in Romance — but so sorry to the Secret Baby lovers out there, that one deserves its own episode (someday). We’re talking babies, toddlers and teens, the appeal of the single parent romance novel, and that one Erin St. Claire book that Sarah can’t get out of her head.</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, or you want to talk more about Romance Babies/Kids, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com.</a></p><p>Our next read along is <em>The Madness of Lord Ian MacKenzie </em>by Jennifer Ashley. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/4rrBS9o" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-madness-of-lord-ian-mackenzie-jennifer-ashley/1102164290" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-madness-of-lord-ian-mackenzie" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-madness-of-lord-ian-mackenzie/id425059580" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780425244463" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</p><h2>Notes</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The <u><a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/series/silhouette-intimate-moments~14147.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Silhouette Intimate Moments line</a></u> eventually turned into Harlequin Romantic Suspense. Erin St. Claire is one of Sandra Brown’s <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandra_Brown" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">many pen names</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://www.thoughtco.com/history-and-definition-of-wet-nurse-3534100" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wet nurses</a></u> have been around for a very long time, <u><a href="https://www.alimentarium.org/en/story/history-baby-bottles" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">baby bottles not so much</a></u>. I say this only because Sarah said “Bottle service” and <u><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/vegas/comments/157sfep/can_someone_please_explain_to_me_exactly_what/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">that’s something different.</a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://www.esrf.fr/home/news/general/content-news/general/red-and-black-ink-from-egyptian-papyri-unveil-ancient-writing-practices.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Red ink </a></u>has been around for a long time, actually. So maybe that’s how Sophie had access to it during the Regency?</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>So there’s not a whole lot of evidence that <u><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/biology/comments/18lbdse/how_rare_is_it_for_two_people_to_have_the_same/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">birthmarks are hereditary</a></u>. Shocking, I know.</li></ol><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>The Romantasy Letters</strong>, a new kind of romantic fantasy storytelling, delivered right to your door twice monthly. Use the code FATED to get 20% off your year's subscription. <u><a href="https://romantasyletters.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at </a><a href="http://romantasyletters.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">RomantasyLetters.com</a></u><a href="https://romantasyletters.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">.</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>LJ Andrews</strong>, author of <em>Heir of Twisted Lies</em>, available in print or ebook. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/47kAePC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/heir-of-twisted-lies-lj-andrews/1147717484?ean=9780593818701" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/heir-of-twisted-lies" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/heir-of-twisted-lies/id6747734330" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780593818701" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Neyha Liu</strong>, author of <em>Midnight at Soulfield</em>, available in print or ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/41biWkB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Lucy Score</strong>, author of <em>Mistakes Were Made</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/4taSByZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>. Get it <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781728297064" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li></ol><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">99d00135-2d43-4415-9e99-ae6f01097006</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2026 23:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/99d00135-2d43-4415-9e99-ae6f01097006.mp3" length="94045334" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:37:58</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>8</itunes:season><itunes:episode>27</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>27</podcast:episode><podcast:season>8</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-a4c0326d-a07d-4491-b91f-ca3e1ae0669e.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S08.26: Ballet and Opera in Romance</title><itunes:title>Ballet and Opera in Romance</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Someone said something real stupid, and that means we get to hit back in the best way possible — with romance recommendations! Today we’re talking about the Opera and the Ballet in Romance! We’re talking about historicals and contemporaries, about mafia enforcers and exasperated dukes, about football players and yes, of course, our sweet baby Conrad Wroth. You’re going to have a great time. Congratulations to the movie-starrest of movie stars, Michael C. Jordan, on the occasion of his Oscar win.</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, or you want to talk more about Opera and Ballet and romance novels, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com.</a></p><p>Our next read along is <em>The Madness of Lord Ian MacKenzie </em>by Jennifer Ashley. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/4rrBS9o" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-madness-of-lord-ian-mackenzie-jennifer-ashley/1102164290" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-madness-of-lord-ian-mackenzie" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-madness-of-lord-ian-mackenzie/id425059580" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780425244463" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</p><h2>Notes</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://www.detroitnews.com/videos/media/video/2026/03/07/union-city-tornado-rips-past-union-lake/89035732007/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tornadoes are scary</a></u>, but the <u><a href="https://tornadopaths.engin.umich.edu/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">University of Michigan is keeping track of them</a></u> for you. <u><a href="https://www.wbez.org/curious-city/2016/04/25/chicagos-tornado-proof-delusion" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chicagoans think that the city is tornado-proof</a></u>; <u><a href="https://www.weather.gov/lot/sigchitorn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">it’s not.</a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://reporter.rit.edu/6028/views/daylight-saving-time-sucks/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Daylight Savings Time sucks.</a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://www.instagram.com/caradion.author/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cara Dion</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lovettromance/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Robin Lovett</a> are both Opera Singers — Romancelandia remains the coolest.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Thanks <u><a href="https://louisadarling.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Louisa Darling</a></u>, for giving us this episode about <u><a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/2026/03/16/timothee-chalamet-controversy-explained-ballet-opera/89178927007/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Timothee Chalamet and his boneheaded comments</a></u> about ballet and opera a few weeks ago, and then he didn’t win a single Oscar. Are these things related? <u><a href="https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-news/jon-stewart-timothee-chalamet-oscars-loss-ballet-opera-1235532123/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Who can say!</a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://youtu.be/Dd0XPRo4LZQ?si=hnLIBqbQ2Fmzngyr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Magic Mike is the greatest dance movie</a> ever made, or a <a href="https://www.vice.com/en/article/surprise-magic-mike-xxl-was-the-most-important-feminist-movie-of-2015/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">feminist text</a>. Pick your poison.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>A ballet book Jen imprinted on as a teenager was called <u><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/507895.Mariana" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mariana by Karen Strickler Dean</a></u>, and for Sarah it was an opera book called <u><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/307716.Mountain_Laurel?from_search=true&amp;from_srp=true&amp;qid=AAQJF8JxO7&amp;rank=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mountain Laurel by Jude Deveraux</a></u>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://youtu.be/Phzc_ZNBI68?si=wgQwIxVpklPBqZ6L" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kelly Clarkson and Josh Groban do this version of All I Ask of You from Phantom of the Opera</a></u> that’s very beautiful.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://variety.com/2026/film/news/michael-b-jordan-best-actor-oscar-sinners-1236683556/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Michael B Jordan DID win the Academy Award for best actor</a>, and we couldn’t be more happy about it.</li></ol><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>The Monique Fisher Universe</strong>, including The Decadence Series, and the upcoming novella <em>Make Room for Heather</em>, available in print or ebook. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3NcASrE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/s/%22Monique%20Fisher%22?Ntk=P_key_Contributor_List&amp;Ns=P_Sales_Rank&amp;Ntx=mode+matchall" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, or <a href="https://amzn.to/3NcASrE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>The Romantasy Letters</strong>, a new kind of romantic fantasy storytelling, delivered right to your door twice monthly. Use the code FATED to get 20% off your year's subscription. <a href="https://romantasyletters.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at RomantasyLetters.com</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Blue Box Press</strong>, publishers of <strong>Kristin Ashley’s <em>After the Climb</em>, a River Rain novel</strong>. Available in print, ebook or audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/4rJibtH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/after-the-climb-special-edition-kristen-ashley/1139818896" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Lumi Gummies</strong>. Go to <u><a href="http://lumigummies.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lumigummies.com</a></u> and use code FATEDMATES for 30% off your order.</li></ol><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone said something real stupid, and that means we get to hit back in the best way possible — with romance recommendations! Today we’re talking about the Opera and the Ballet in Romance! We’re talking about historicals and contemporaries, about mafia enforcers and exasperated dukes, about football players and yes, of course, our sweet baby Conrad Wroth. You’re going to have a great time. Congratulations to the movie-starrest of movie stars, Michael C. Jordan, on the occasion of his Oscar win.</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, or you want to talk more about Opera and Ballet and romance novels, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com.</a></p><p>Our next read along is <em>The Madness of Lord Ian MacKenzie </em>by Jennifer Ashley. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/4rrBS9o" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-madness-of-lord-ian-mackenzie-jennifer-ashley/1102164290" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-madness-of-lord-ian-mackenzie" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-madness-of-lord-ian-mackenzie/id425059580" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780425244463" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</p><h2>Notes</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://www.detroitnews.com/videos/media/video/2026/03/07/union-city-tornado-rips-past-union-lake/89035732007/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tornadoes are scary</a></u>, but the <u><a href="https://tornadopaths.engin.umich.edu/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">University of Michigan is keeping track of them</a></u> for you. <u><a href="https://www.wbez.org/curious-city/2016/04/25/chicagos-tornado-proof-delusion" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chicagoans think that the city is tornado-proof</a></u>; <u><a href="https://www.weather.gov/lot/sigchitorn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">it’s not.</a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://reporter.rit.edu/6028/views/daylight-saving-time-sucks/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Daylight Savings Time sucks.</a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://www.instagram.com/caradion.author/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cara Dion</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lovettromance/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Robin Lovett</a> are both Opera Singers — Romancelandia remains the coolest.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Thanks <u><a href="https://louisadarling.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Louisa Darling</a></u>, for giving us this episode about <u><a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/2026/03/16/timothee-chalamet-controversy-explained-ballet-opera/89178927007/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Timothee Chalamet and his boneheaded comments</a></u> about ballet and opera a few weeks ago, and then he didn’t win a single Oscar. Are these things related? <u><a href="https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-news/jon-stewart-timothee-chalamet-oscars-loss-ballet-opera-1235532123/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Who can say!</a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://youtu.be/Dd0XPRo4LZQ?si=hnLIBqbQ2Fmzngyr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Magic Mike is the greatest dance movie</a> ever made, or a <a href="https://www.vice.com/en/article/surprise-magic-mike-xxl-was-the-most-important-feminist-movie-of-2015/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">feminist text</a>. Pick your poison.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>A ballet book Jen imprinted on as a teenager was called <u><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/507895.Mariana" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mariana by Karen Strickler Dean</a></u>, and for Sarah it was an opera book called <u><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/307716.Mountain_Laurel?from_search=true&amp;from_srp=true&amp;qid=AAQJF8JxO7&amp;rank=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mountain Laurel by Jude Deveraux</a></u>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://youtu.be/Phzc_ZNBI68?si=wgQwIxVpklPBqZ6L" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kelly Clarkson and Josh Groban do this version of All I Ask of You from Phantom of the Opera</a></u> that’s very beautiful.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://variety.com/2026/film/news/michael-b-jordan-best-actor-oscar-sinners-1236683556/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Michael B Jordan DID win the Academy Award for best actor</a>, and we couldn’t be more happy about it.</li></ol><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>The Monique Fisher Universe</strong>, including The Decadence Series, and the upcoming novella <em>Make Room for Heather</em>, available in print or ebook. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3NcASrE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/s/%22Monique%20Fisher%22?Ntk=P_key_Contributor_List&amp;Ns=P_Sales_Rank&amp;Ntx=mode+matchall" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, or <a href="https://amzn.to/3NcASrE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>The Romantasy Letters</strong>, a new kind of romantic fantasy storytelling, delivered right to your door twice monthly. Use the code FATED to get 20% off your year's subscription. <a href="https://romantasyletters.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at RomantasyLetters.com</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Blue Box Press</strong>, publishers of <strong>Kristin Ashley’s <em>After the Climb</em>, a River Rain novel</strong>. Available in print, ebook or audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/4rJibtH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/after-the-climb-special-edition-kristen-ashley/1139818896" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Lumi Gummies</strong>. Go to <u><a href="http://lumigummies.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lumigummies.com</a></u> and use code FATEDMATES for 30% off your order.</li></ol><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">23eabafe-daa6-4ca5-b641-62f35df05567</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2026 23:15:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/23eabafe-daa6-4ca5-b641-62f35df05567.mp3" length="94944861" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:38:54</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>8</itunes:season><itunes:episode>26</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>26</podcast:episode><podcast:season>8</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-2b64af08-80d6-427d-a9d6-526b025f9ef6.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S08.25: Heated Rivalry Read-Alikes with Christopher Rice</title><itunes:title>Heated Rivalry Read-Alikes with Christopher Rice</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Calling all Loons! You’ve heated and reheated the rivalry, and now it’s time for us to talk about what you should read between now and Season 2. We’re joined by friend and fave of the pod, Christopher Rice, who writes m/m and sometimes m/m/m romance as C. Travis Rice. We talk about our feelings about Heated Rivalry, about the books and their impact, and about the transformational work of the show…and then we fill your to-be-read piles with books we thing deliver the same kind of emotions. We had a great time, and you will, too.</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, or you want to talk more about Heated Rivalry &amp; romance novels, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com.</a></p><p>Our next read along is <em>The Madness of Lord Ian MacKenzie </em>by Jennifer Ashley. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/4rrBS9o" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-madness-of-lord-ian-mackenzie-jennifer-ashley/1102164290" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-madness-of-lord-ian-mackenzie" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-madness-of-lord-ian-mackenzie/id425059580" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780425244463" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</p><h2>Notes</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Welcome back <u><a href="https://www.christopherricebooks.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Christopher Rice</a></u> who writes romance under the name C. Travis Rice. Christopher and his best friend Eric Shaw Quinn host a podcast called <a href="https://thedinnerpartyshow.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Dinner Party Show</a>. You can listen to <u><a href="https://thedinnerpartyshow.com/2026/02/christopher-eric-podcast-episode-323-2/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">their </a></u><em><u><a href="https://thedinnerpartyshow.com/2026/02/christopher-eric-podcast-episode-323-2/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heated Rivalry</a></u></em><u><a href="https://thedinnerpartyshow.com/2026/02/christopher-eric-podcast-episode-323-2/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> episode</a></u> here, and Eric’s tuna melt thoughts start around the 18:30 minute mark. Their <u><a href="https://thedinnerpartyshow.com/2026/03/christopher-eric-podcast-episode-325-2/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">episode with Dateline producer Josh Mankiewicz</a></u> aired on March 1st. You can watch the documentary <u><a href="https://annerice.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Anne Rice: An All Saints’ Day Celebration</a></u> for free at her website.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Wesley Morris’s essay in the New York Times, <u><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/27/arts/television/heated-rivalry-gay-representation-connor-storrie.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">I’m so Used to Gay Tragedies That I Almost Missed Romance. </a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The <em><u><a href="https://www.instagram.com/heatedrivalrycrave/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heated Rivalry</a></u></em><u><a href="https://www.instagram.com/heatedrivalrycrave/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Crave</a></u> social media feed highlighted the power of the adaptation by showing the cast reading from the books, juxtaposing scenes from the show with the text, and loving Rachel Reid!</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/good_will_hunting" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Good Will Hunting</a></u> is 29 years old! Okay, I know that <u><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3363032/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ryan Coogler</a></u> has made a couple of <u><a href="https://youtu.be/xjDjIWPwcPU?si=Sxr86CLp3Ju0Ndnm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Marvel movies</a></u>, but he’s also writing <u><a href="https://youtu.be/bKGxHflevuk?si=zKpX_VEF0npftXP2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">dazzling original films like Sinners</a></u>!</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Olympians in Italy <u><a href="https://www.vice.com/en/article/olympians-rejoice-olympic-village-restocks-free-condoms-after-athletes-use-10000-in-3-days/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ran through 10,000 condoms in 3 days</a></u> and the Village needed to do some restocking. Here’s one athlete’s <u><a href="https://www.buzzfeed.com/elizabethswaney/olympic-history-condoms" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">history of condoms at the Olympics.</a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>To be fair, <u><a href="https://www.ap.org/news-highlights/spotlights/2024/shorter-games-more-running-more-action-two-years-in-mlbs-rule-changes-have-provided-a-jolt/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">adding a pitch clock and changing other MLB baseball rules</a></u> have shortened the running time of most games.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>For more information about gay rodeo, follow <a href="https://www.instagram.com/igrarodeo/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the instagram of the International Gay Rodeo Association</a>. <em><a href="https://amzn.to/3PbatLb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pick Up Men</a></em> is the first book in the Pick Up Men series by LC Chase.</li></ol><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Jayne Ann Krentz</strong>, author of <em>The Shop on Hidden Lane</em>, available in print or ebook. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/4b5KM7C" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-shop-on-hidden-lane-jayne-ann-krentz/1147241816?ean=9798217187355" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dream-of-you-jennifer-l-armentrout/1123249871?ean=2940185128213" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-shop-on-hidden-lane/id6744305820" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9798217187348" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>The Romantasy Letters</strong>, a new kind of romantic fantasy storytelling, delivered right to your door twice monthly. Use the code FATED to get 20% off your year's subscription. <a href="https://romantasyletters.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at RomantasyLetters.com</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Blue Box Press</strong>, publishers of <strong>Jennifer L. Armentrout’s <em>Dream of You</em>, a <em>Wait for You</em> novella</strong>. Available in print, ebook or audiobook from <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Dream-You-Wait-Novella-Nights/dp/1940887399" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dream-of-you-jennifer-l-armentrout/1123249871?ean=2940185128213" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>.</li></ol><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calling all Loons! You’ve heated and reheated the rivalry, and now it’s time for us to talk about what you should read between now and Season 2. We’re joined by friend and fave of the pod, Christopher Rice, who writes m/m and sometimes m/m/m romance as C. Travis Rice. We talk about our feelings about Heated Rivalry, about the books and their impact, and about the transformational work of the show…and then we fill your to-be-read piles with books we thing deliver the same kind of emotions. We had a great time, and you will, too.</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, or you want to talk more about Heated Rivalry &amp; romance novels, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com.</a></p><p>Our next read along is <em>The Madness of Lord Ian MacKenzie </em>by Jennifer Ashley. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/4rrBS9o" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-madness-of-lord-ian-mackenzie-jennifer-ashley/1102164290" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-madness-of-lord-ian-mackenzie" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-madness-of-lord-ian-mackenzie/id425059580" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780425244463" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</p><h2>Notes</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Welcome back <u><a href="https://www.christopherricebooks.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Christopher Rice</a></u> who writes romance under the name C. Travis Rice. Christopher and his best friend Eric Shaw Quinn host a podcast called <a href="https://thedinnerpartyshow.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Dinner Party Show</a>. You can listen to <u><a href="https://thedinnerpartyshow.com/2026/02/christopher-eric-podcast-episode-323-2/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">their </a></u><em><u><a href="https://thedinnerpartyshow.com/2026/02/christopher-eric-podcast-episode-323-2/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heated Rivalry</a></u></em><u><a href="https://thedinnerpartyshow.com/2026/02/christopher-eric-podcast-episode-323-2/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> episode</a></u> here, and Eric’s tuna melt thoughts start around the 18:30 minute mark. Their <u><a href="https://thedinnerpartyshow.com/2026/03/christopher-eric-podcast-episode-325-2/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">episode with Dateline producer Josh Mankiewicz</a></u> aired on March 1st. You can watch the documentary <u><a href="https://annerice.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Anne Rice: An All Saints’ Day Celebration</a></u> for free at her website.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Wesley Morris’s essay in the New York Times, <u><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/27/arts/television/heated-rivalry-gay-representation-connor-storrie.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">I’m so Used to Gay Tragedies That I Almost Missed Romance. </a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The <em><u><a href="https://www.instagram.com/heatedrivalrycrave/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heated Rivalry</a></u></em><u><a href="https://www.instagram.com/heatedrivalrycrave/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Crave</a></u> social media feed highlighted the power of the adaptation by showing the cast reading from the books, juxtaposing scenes from the show with the text, and loving Rachel Reid!</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/good_will_hunting" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Good Will Hunting</a></u> is 29 years old! Okay, I know that <u><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3363032/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ryan Coogler</a></u> has made a couple of <u><a href="https://youtu.be/xjDjIWPwcPU?si=Sxr86CLp3Ju0Ndnm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Marvel movies</a></u>, but he’s also writing <u><a href="https://youtu.be/bKGxHflevuk?si=zKpX_VEF0npftXP2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">dazzling original films like Sinners</a></u>!</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Olympians in Italy <u><a href="https://www.vice.com/en/article/olympians-rejoice-olympic-village-restocks-free-condoms-after-athletes-use-10000-in-3-days/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ran through 10,000 condoms in 3 days</a></u> and the Village needed to do some restocking. Here’s one athlete’s <u><a href="https://www.buzzfeed.com/elizabethswaney/olympic-history-condoms" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">history of condoms at the Olympics.</a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>To be fair, <u><a href="https://www.ap.org/news-highlights/spotlights/2024/shorter-games-more-running-more-action-two-years-in-mlbs-rule-changes-have-provided-a-jolt/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">adding a pitch clock and changing other MLB baseball rules</a></u> have shortened the running time of most games.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>For more information about gay rodeo, follow <a href="https://www.instagram.com/igrarodeo/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the instagram of the International Gay Rodeo Association</a>. <em><a href="https://amzn.to/3PbatLb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pick Up Men</a></em> is the first book in the Pick Up Men series by LC Chase.</li></ol><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Jayne Ann Krentz</strong>, author of <em>The Shop on Hidden Lane</em>, available in print or ebook. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/4b5KM7C" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-shop-on-hidden-lane-jayne-ann-krentz/1147241816?ean=9798217187355" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dream-of-you-jennifer-l-armentrout/1123249871?ean=2940185128213" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-shop-on-hidden-lane/id6744305820" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9798217187348" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>The Romantasy Letters</strong>, a new kind of romantic fantasy storytelling, delivered right to your door twice monthly. Use the code FATED to get 20% off your year's subscription. <a href="https://romantasyletters.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at RomantasyLetters.com</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Blue Box Press</strong>, publishers of <strong>Jennifer L. Armentrout’s <em>Dream of You</em>, a <em>Wait for You</em> novella</strong>. Available in print, ebook or audiobook from <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Dream-You-Wait-Novella-Nights/dp/1940887399" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dream-of-you-jennifer-l-armentrout/1123249871?ean=2940185128213" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>.</li></ol><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">030c4109-17af-42aa-9eea-4bc944b42c13</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2026 23:30:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/030c4109-17af-42aa-9eea-4bc944b42c13.mp3" length="99969148" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:44:08</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>8</itunes:season><itunes:episode>25</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>25</podcast:episode><podcast:season>8</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-2a604a93-9f84-49f9-9e09-7be6b75271b9.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S08.24: Sincerely, Your Inconvenient Wife by Julia Wolf</title><itunes:title>Sincerely, Your Inconvenient Wife by Julia Wolf</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Things are looking very wild out here in the real world so you deserve a deep dive on a book by an author with a big backlist and we are here to give you just that! Today's episode is on <em>Sincerely, Your Inconvenient Wife</em>, a modern day marriage of convenience story from Julia Wolf's The Harder They Fall series. We talk about fake husbands down bad, family drama, and the charm of an author building a big universe for all their characters to live in forever.</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, or you want to talk more about Julia's books, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com.</a></p><p>Read <em>Sincerely, Your Inconvenient Wife</em> in ebook or<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9798397766968" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> paperback</a>, or <a href="https://amzn.to/49YUyGN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</p><h2>Notes</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>How the <u><a href="https://youtu.be/z2XS_NO_AJI?si=zbqt9XxUfd3U-wBb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">great blizzard of 2026 stacked up</a></u> with previous blizzards. Seems like <u><a href="https://www.browndailyherald.com/article/2026/02/record-breaking-blizzard-brings-over-379-inches-of-snow-to-providence" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Providence was a bad place to be</a></u>. The winner of this year’s Chicago’s snowplow naming contest: <u><a href="https://blockclubchicago.org/2026/02/23/chicago-just-named-a-snowplow-abolish-ice-here-are-the-other-winners/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Abolish ICE</a></u>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Everyone loves <u><a href="https://youtu.be/G6FuWd4wNd8?si=JYlLYun__TXK-mwI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bad Bunny</a></u>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://youtu.be/n44HeX9fqqQ?si=7cM7C168nKGXqxn2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ryan Coogler gave a beautiful speech about love</a></u> at the BAFTA awards. Watch <u><a href="https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVU_3J8CfxD/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&amp;igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jayme Lawson from the NAACP Awards</a></u> give a brilliant explanation of why BAFTA and BBC are to blame for the events at this year’s BAFTA awards.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>We have both been reading a lot of Julia Wolf books ever since our <u><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/12/30/s0815-its-new-years-milkin-eve" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">New Year’s Milkin’ Eve episode.</a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Wyoming is <u><a href="https://cowboystatedaily.com/2025/02/02/does-size-matter-evey-county-in-wyoming-is-bigger-than-rhode-island/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a very big state</a></u> with<u><a href="https://youtube.com/shorts/5cTE8SLstEc?si=dQrH7_3a_2MysTwQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> a very small population</a></u>, so small in fact that there are <u><a href="https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fu-s-counties-with-more-people-than-the-state-of-wyoming-v0-ph6yde6zmei91.png%3Fauto%3Dwebp%26s%3D04030a0af2d74209b8b060026cae1e22999191fa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">117 counties that have a bigger population than the entire state.</a></u> You can play around with <u><a href="https://www.slate.com/articles/life/culturebox/2014/10/population_map_use_our_interactive_map_to_figure_out_how_many_flyover_states.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">comparing populations using this map tool</a></u> from Slate.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The other books we mentioned this episode by Julia Wolf: a rock star romance, <u><a href="https://amzn.to/4uso8hp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Built to Fall</a></u>. Saoirse’s brother’s book is<u><a href="https://amzn.to/4biBhSq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Sweet Like Poison</a></u>. Luca’s sister’s book is <u><a href="https://amzn.to/4u6nQw8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">In the Details</a></u>.</li></ol><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Melanie Greene</strong>, author of <em>New Flames</em>, available in print or ebook. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/4snLLWr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/new-flames-melanie-greene/1148270265" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/ww/en/ebook/new-flames?srsltid=AfmBOoozMQjSHiUDpSpNZh8NfYSRKqSX5O5bE6H2YpG2ZpppXCNPei0F" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/new-flames/id6752369923" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781941967539" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>The Romantasy Letters</strong>, a new kind of romantic fantasy storytelling, delivered right to your door twice monthly. Use the code FATED to get 20% off your year's subscription. <a href="https://romantasyletters.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at RomantasyLetters.com</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>The <em>What in the Smut?</em> Podcast</strong>, available <a href="https://rss.com/podcasts/what-in-the-smut-podcast/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your podcasts</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Vedentro</strong>, premium leather accessories. <a href="https://www.vedentro.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Use code FATED at checkout</a> to get an additional 10% off the best offer on the site.</li></ol><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Things are looking very wild out here in the real world so you deserve a deep dive on a book by an author with a big backlist and we are here to give you just that! Today's episode is on <em>Sincerely, Your Inconvenient Wife</em>, a modern day marriage of convenience story from Julia Wolf's The Harder They Fall series. We talk about fake husbands down bad, family drama, and the charm of an author building a big universe for all their characters to live in forever.</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, or you want to talk more about Julia's books, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com.</a></p><p>Read <em>Sincerely, Your Inconvenient Wife</em> in ebook or<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9798397766968" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> paperback</a>, or <a href="https://amzn.to/49YUyGN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</p><h2>Notes</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>How the <u><a href="https://youtu.be/z2XS_NO_AJI?si=zbqt9XxUfd3U-wBb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">great blizzard of 2026 stacked up</a></u> with previous blizzards. Seems like <u><a href="https://www.browndailyherald.com/article/2026/02/record-breaking-blizzard-brings-over-379-inches-of-snow-to-providence" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Providence was a bad place to be</a></u>. The winner of this year’s Chicago’s snowplow naming contest: <u><a href="https://blockclubchicago.org/2026/02/23/chicago-just-named-a-snowplow-abolish-ice-here-are-the-other-winners/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Abolish ICE</a></u>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Everyone loves <u><a href="https://youtu.be/G6FuWd4wNd8?si=JYlLYun__TXK-mwI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bad Bunny</a></u>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://youtu.be/n44HeX9fqqQ?si=7cM7C168nKGXqxn2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ryan Coogler gave a beautiful speech about love</a></u> at the BAFTA awards. Watch <u><a href="https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVU_3J8CfxD/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&amp;igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jayme Lawson from the NAACP Awards</a></u> give a brilliant explanation of why BAFTA and BBC are to blame for the events at this year’s BAFTA awards.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>We have both been reading a lot of Julia Wolf books ever since our <u><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/12/30/s0815-its-new-years-milkin-eve" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">New Year’s Milkin’ Eve episode.</a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Wyoming is <u><a href="https://cowboystatedaily.com/2025/02/02/does-size-matter-evey-county-in-wyoming-is-bigger-than-rhode-island/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a very big state</a></u> with<u><a href="https://youtube.com/shorts/5cTE8SLstEc?si=dQrH7_3a_2MysTwQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> a very small population</a></u>, so small in fact that there are <u><a href="https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fu-s-counties-with-more-people-than-the-state-of-wyoming-v0-ph6yde6zmei91.png%3Fauto%3Dwebp%26s%3D04030a0af2d74209b8b060026cae1e22999191fa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">117 counties that have a bigger population than the entire state.</a></u> You can play around with <u><a href="https://www.slate.com/articles/life/culturebox/2014/10/population_map_use_our_interactive_map_to_figure_out_how_many_flyover_states.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">comparing populations using this map tool</a></u> from Slate.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The other books we mentioned this episode by Julia Wolf: a rock star romance, <u><a href="https://amzn.to/4uso8hp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Built to Fall</a></u>. Saoirse’s brother’s book is<u><a href="https://amzn.to/4biBhSq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Sweet Like Poison</a></u>. Luca’s sister’s book is <u><a href="https://amzn.to/4u6nQw8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">In the Details</a></u>.</li></ol><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Melanie Greene</strong>, author of <em>New Flames</em>, available in print or ebook. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/4snLLWr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/new-flames-melanie-greene/1148270265" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/ww/en/ebook/new-flames?srsltid=AfmBOoozMQjSHiUDpSpNZh8NfYSRKqSX5O5bE6H2YpG2ZpppXCNPei0F" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/new-flames/id6752369923" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781941967539" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>The Romantasy Letters</strong>, a new kind of romantic fantasy storytelling, delivered right to your door twice monthly. Use the code FATED to get 20% off your year's subscription. <a href="https://romantasyletters.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at RomantasyLetters.com</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>The <em>What in the Smut?</em> Podcast</strong>, available <a href="https://rss.com/podcasts/what-in-the-smut-podcast/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your podcasts</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Vedentro</strong>, premium leather accessories. <a href="https://www.vedentro.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Use code FATED at checkout</a> to get an additional 10% off the best offer on the site.</li></ol><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">8314d571-49de-4ad3-9e7a-d1b7fcca64b6</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2026 22:30:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/8314d571-49de-4ad3-9e7a-d1b7fcca64b6.mp3" length="97832960" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:41:55</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>8</itunes:season><itunes:episode>24</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>24</podcast:episode><podcast:season>8</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-b85314c5-8b62-4d04-b5e2-95a24d7f53df.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S08.23: The Chemise Protects You From Boning: Romance Wardrobe</title><itunes:title>The Chemise Protects You From Boning: Romance Wardrobe</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Continuing our series on Romance Vibes, we’re talking about Romance Wardrobe this week! We’re talking corsets and chemises, falls and Hessian boots, Armani suits and underpants that rip right off. We also get to the bottom of the pronunciation of <em>bliaut</em>. Do we recommend books? Not really, but it’s ok, we all deserve a week of goofing off sometime. All that, and Sarah saw “Wuthering Heights.”</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, or more romance lovers who love music, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community (complete with a music channel)! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <u><a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a></u>.</p><p>Next week, our read along is <em><u><a href="https://amzn.to/49YUyGN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sincerely, Your Inconvenient Wife</a></u></em> by Julia Wolf. Find it in ebook or paperback, or <a href="https://amzn.to/4q7sM0x" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</p><h2>Notes</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Sarah went to see <u><a href="https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/wuthering-heights-review-a-romance-in-scare-quotes/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scare Quotes Wuthering Heights</a></u>, but Jen hasn’t seen it yet. According to New York Magazine, <u><a href="https://www.vulture.com/article/dont-read-wuthering-heights-before-seeing-wuthering-heights.html?_gl=1*1i842h*FPAU*MTc3NTY4MTcxOS4xNzY2Njg5NTQz*_ga*MTk5NDg0ODA1Ni4xNzY2Njg5NTIz*_ga_DNE38RK1HX*czE3NzE5MDAwMTckbzYkZzEkdDE3NzE5MDAwMjkkajQ4JGwwJGgyMjQ2NTYzMDc.*_fplc*RyUyRmlid3E3V3RES2FMTVBJVEpHZHoweUhoSVpIY2pVWllKMWZMdTdYRjM0alFUcTB6TGJyUGd5UUclMkZaUTRDTUFQMCUyQm5iT25TakgzUFpValcyUlF1cFZjWTNQQjROMWluUnBCOEt3c3B1YjgxbklsUzJNMHIwaXl6alNodnpnJTNEJTNE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">you don’t have to read Wuthering Heights</a></u> to see <u><a href="https://youtu.be/3fLCdIYShEQ?si=LL_K6pQ9sJSfrNRv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“Wuthering Heights.”</a></u> But the <u><a href="https://www.vogue.co.uk/article/wuthering-heights-costumes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">costumes sure are beautiful.</a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Those <u><a href="https://www.bronte.org.uk/about-the-brontes/the-lives-of-the-brontes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bronte sisters</a></u>!</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Desmond Morris’s <u><a href="https://writersinthestormblog.com/2018/05/using-the-12-stages-of-physical-intimacy-to-build-tension-in-your-fiction/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">12 Steps to Intimacy</a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>All about <u><a href="https://youtu.be/5aX0C-NemlE?si=D1EI4KjvY6-2JSlx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">smelling salts</a></u>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>A woman and her baby stroller were <u><a href="https://abc7.com/post/gust-wind-blows-baby-girl-stroller-lake-michigan-chicago-man-dives-save-child/18620973/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">blown into Lake Michigan last week</a></u>! The <u><a href="https://mccollege.edu/blog/why-is-chicago-called-the-windy-city-a-fascinating-history-for-international-students/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Windy City is no joke! </a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Am I to understand <u><a href="https://amzn.to/3MZNLFa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">these are not historically accurate Kilts</a></u>?</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beau_Brummell" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Beau Brummell was a real person</a></u>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://theweek.com/88750/giorgio-armani-master-of-elegance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Armani suit</a></u> was <u><a href="https://www.gq.com/story/how-giorgio-armani-taught-hollywood-players-to-dress-like-american-gigolos" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a big deal in the 80s</a></u>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>We are not rich enough to do anything but read about <u><a href="https://sociallifemagazine.com/the-archive/old-money-brands-the-12-labels-that-signal-quiet-wealth/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">stealth wealth.</a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/tvandradioblog/2015/aug/14/deadwood-is-the-best-drama-hbo-has-ever-made-it-must-be-revived" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">You should watch Deadwood.</a></u></li></ol><br/><p><strong>All About:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chemise</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reticule_(handbag)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Reticule</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>A beaver hat <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaver_hat" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">is this</a>, <a href="https://i.etsystatic.com/33952247/r/il/4f54b4/5894977692/il_570xN.5894977692_cxjd.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">not that</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bliaut" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bliaut</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirtle" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kirtle</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Button" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Buttons</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://www.samsonhistorical.com/collections/waistcoats?srsltid=AfmBOorpsfDNsbVRU5jGp-NTGXzG4aM60qafE6q-FMChKpJy4owOXx9W" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Waistcoat</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greatcoat" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Greatcoat</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelisse" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pelisse</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_suit" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Union suit</a></li></ol><br/><h2><strong>Sponsors</strong></h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Blue Box Press</strong>, publishers of <strong>Larissa Ione’s Demonica Legacy series</strong> rereleased paperbacks, available in print, ebook or audiobook. Get the redesigned paperbacks at <a href="https://amzn.to/4aOek85" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/s/%22Larissa%20Ione%22?Ntk=P_key_Contributor_List&amp;Ns=P_Sales_Rank&amp;Ntx=mode+matchall" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781970077445" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>The Romantasy Letters</strong>, A new kind of romantic fantasy storytelling, delivered right to your door twice monthly. Use the code FATED to get 20% off your year's subscription. <a href="http://romantasyletters.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at RomantasyLetters.com</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Lumi Labs</strong>, creators of Lumi Gummies. Go to <u><a href="https://lumigummies.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lumigummies.com</a></u> and use code FATEDMATES for 30% off your order.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Amy Spalding</strong>, author of <strong><em>In Her Spotlight</em></strong>, available in print, ebook and audiobook at <a href="https://amzn.to/3OKh8vD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/in-her-spotlight-amy-spalding/1147476877?ean=9781496751171" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/in-her-spotlight" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/in-her-spotlight/id6746661958" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781496751171" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li></ol><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun!...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Continuing our series on Romance Vibes, we’re talking about Romance Wardrobe this week! We’re talking corsets and chemises, falls and Hessian boots, Armani suits and underpants that rip right off. We also get to the bottom of the pronunciation of <em>bliaut</em>. Do we recommend books? Not really, but it’s ok, we all deserve a week of goofing off sometime. All that, and Sarah saw “Wuthering Heights.”</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, or more romance lovers who love music, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community (complete with a music channel)! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <u><a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a></u>.</p><p>Next week, our read along is <em><u><a href="https://amzn.to/49YUyGN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sincerely, Your Inconvenient Wife</a></u></em> by Julia Wolf. Find it in ebook or paperback, or <a href="https://amzn.to/4q7sM0x" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</p><h2>Notes</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Sarah went to see <u><a href="https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/wuthering-heights-review-a-romance-in-scare-quotes/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scare Quotes Wuthering Heights</a></u>, but Jen hasn’t seen it yet. According to New York Magazine, <u><a href="https://www.vulture.com/article/dont-read-wuthering-heights-before-seeing-wuthering-heights.html?_gl=1*1i842h*FPAU*MTc3NTY4MTcxOS4xNzY2Njg5NTQz*_ga*MTk5NDg0ODA1Ni4xNzY2Njg5NTIz*_ga_DNE38RK1HX*czE3NzE5MDAwMTckbzYkZzEkdDE3NzE5MDAwMjkkajQ4JGwwJGgyMjQ2NTYzMDc.*_fplc*RyUyRmlid3E3V3RES2FMTVBJVEpHZHoweUhoSVpIY2pVWllKMWZMdTdYRjM0alFUcTB6TGJyUGd5UUclMkZaUTRDTUFQMCUyQm5iT25TakgzUFpValcyUlF1cFZjWTNQQjROMWluUnBCOEt3c3B1YjgxbklsUzJNMHIwaXl6alNodnpnJTNEJTNE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">you don’t have to read Wuthering Heights</a></u> to see <u><a href="https://youtu.be/3fLCdIYShEQ?si=LL_K6pQ9sJSfrNRv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“Wuthering Heights.”</a></u> But the <u><a href="https://www.vogue.co.uk/article/wuthering-heights-costumes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">costumes sure are beautiful.</a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Those <u><a href="https://www.bronte.org.uk/about-the-brontes/the-lives-of-the-brontes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bronte sisters</a></u>!</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Desmond Morris’s <u><a href="https://writersinthestormblog.com/2018/05/using-the-12-stages-of-physical-intimacy-to-build-tension-in-your-fiction/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">12 Steps to Intimacy</a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>All about <u><a href="https://youtu.be/5aX0C-NemlE?si=D1EI4KjvY6-2JSlx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">smelling salts</a></u>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>A woman and her baby stroller were <u><a href="https://abc7.com/post/gust-wind-blows-baby-girl-stroller-lake-michigan-chicago-man-dives-save-child/18620973/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">blown into Lake Michigan last week</a></u>! The <u><a href="https://mccollege.edu/blog/why-is-chicago-called-the-windy-city-a-fascinating-history-for-international-students/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Windy City is no joke! </a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Am I to understand <u><a href="https://amzn.to/3MZNLFa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">these are not historically accurate Kilts</a></u>?</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beau_Brummell" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Beau Brummell was a real person</a></u>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://theweek.com/88750/giorgio-armani-master-of-elegance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Armani suit</a></u> was <u><a href="https://www.gq.com/story/how-giorgio-armani-taught-hollywood-players-to-dress-like-american-gigolos" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a big deal in the 80s</a></u>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>We are not rich enough to do anything but read about <u><a href="https://sociallifemagazine.com/the-archive/old-money-brands-the-12-labels-that-signal-quiet-wealth/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">stealth wealth.</a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/tvandradioblog/2015/aug/14/deadwood-is-the-best-drama-hbo-has-ever-made-it-must-be-revived" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">You should watch Deadwood.</a></u></li></ol><br/><p><strong>All About:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chemise</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reticule_(handbag)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Reticule</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>A beaver hat <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaver_hat" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">is this</a>, <a href="https://i.etsystatic.com/33952247/r/il/4f54b4/5894977692/il_570xN.5894977692_cxjd.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">not that</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bliaut" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bliaut</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirtle" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kirtle</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Button" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Buttons</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://www.samsonhistorical.com/collections/waistcoats?srsltid=AfmBOorpsfDNsbVRU5jGp-NTGXzG4aM60qafE6q-FMChKpJy4owOXx9W" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Waistcoat</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greatcoat" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Greatcoat</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelisse" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pelisse</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_suit" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Union suit</a></li></ol><br/><h2><strong>Sponsors</strong></h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Blue Box Press</strong>, publishers of <strong>Larissa Ione’s Demonica Legacy series</strong> rereleased paperbacks, available in print, ebook or audiobook. Get the redesigned paperbacks at <a href="https://amzn.to/4aOek85" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/s/%22Larissa%20Ione%22?Ntk=P_key_Contributor_List&amp;Ns=P_Sales_Rank&amp;Ntx=mode+matchall" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781970077445" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>The Romantasy Letters</strong>, A new kind of romantic fantasy storytelling, delivered right to your door twice monthly. Use the code FATED to get 20% off your year's subscription. <a href="http://romantasyletters.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at RomantasyLetters.com</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Lumi Labs</strong>, creators of Lumi Gummies. Go to <u><a href="https://lumigummies.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lumigummies.com</a></u> and use code FATEDMATES for 30% off your order.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Amy Spalding</strong>, author of <strong><em>In Her Spotlight</em></strong>, available in print, ebook and audiobook at <a href="https://amzn.to/3OKh8vD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/in-her-spotlight-amy-spalding/1147476877?ean=9781496751171" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/in-her-spotlight" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/in-her-spotlight/id6746661958" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781496751171" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li></ol><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">1a3df26a-30ff-4ea2-aa52-23f62b5094d8</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2026 23:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/1a3df26a-30ff-4ea2-aa52-23f62b5094d8.mp3" length="84800991" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:28:20</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>8</itunes:season><itunes:episode>23</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>23</podcast:episode><podcast:season>8</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-1f786293-430b-45c3-b670-5b6ff637401d.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S08.22: Chart Topping Songs and Their Perfect Romance Novel Pairings</title><itunes:title>Chart Topping Songs and Their Perfect Romance Novel Pairings</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Our old pal Billy Shakes told us that music is the food of love, and we’re taking that to heart this week! By request from Eric (who’s never requested anything before), we’re looking at songs that charted in February over the years and matching them with romance novels that suit! We’ve got a little bit of something for everyone here, from historicals to paranormals, motorcycles to mafia to magical realism. Eric’s put together a playlist, and you can find links to that and articles about a bunch of these songs in show notes, or you can just head straight to reading the books. We don’t judge!</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, or more romance lovers who love music, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community (complete with a music channel)! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <u><a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a></u>.</p><p>Our next read along (in March) is <em><u><a href="https://amzn.to/49YUyGN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sincerely, Your Inconvenient Wife</a></u></em> by Julia Wolf. Find it in ebook or paperback, or <a href="https://amzn.to/4q7sM0x" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</p><h2>Notes</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>You can listen to the accompanying playlist on <a href="https://music.apple.com/us/playlist/chart-topping-songs-and-their-perfect-romance-novel/pl.u-jVmZgtoMEge" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Music</a> and <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3eXABXtOOUAVBPJfD4X8aj?si=mn_ii6_MS3-ERkkLGn5tGQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>You, too, may want to learn about <a href="https://www.instagram.com/reels/DUmcfJpjEtn/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this mahjong situation</a> brewing in the Midwest with Barbara.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>It’s the Olympics. Defector is covering all the news stories we want to know about, including <u><a href="https://defector.com/the-big-canada-sweden-curling-beef-explained" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Curling Drama between Sweden and Canada</a></u>, the ice dancers are super villains, and <u><a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/strula-holm-laegreid-norway-biathlon-cheating-girlfriend-bronze-olympics/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this Norwegian skier is an idiot</a></u>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Happy <a href="https://asalh.org/about-us/origins-of-black-history-month/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black History Month</a>! Jen did something cool at <u><a href="https://www.newberry.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Newberry Library</a></u>. It was part of the Douglass Day transcribe-a-thon, transcribing information about the Colored Conventions. You can still participate using <u><a href="https://www.zooniverse.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Zooniverse</a></u>, and looking for the <u><a href="https://www.zooniverse.org/projects/douglassday/transcribe-2026" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Douglass Day Project.</a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Sarah enjoyed learning about the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/shorts/gtsmX9z5Gw0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Asking Dumb Questions</a> class at Yale.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://stereogum.com/author/tombreihan" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tom Breihan</a></u> writes a column The<u><a href="https://stereogum.com/category/columns/the-number-ones" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Number Ones at Stereogum</a></u>, and Jen also enjoys a similar Slate podcast called <u><a href="https://slate.com/podcasts/hit-parade" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hit Parade</a></u>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Here’s the spreadsheet of February hits, and a playlist of songs we talked about today! <u><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macarena" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Macarena</a></u> is a song about love triangles! <a href="https://youtu.be/OXm6_v0rMCY?si=8XG8nC2Mft6u-O1R" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bad Romance by Lady Gaga</a> is on this list, but we only talk about books we like.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The DJ book Jen couldn’t remember was <em><a href="https://amzn.to/3MembDZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rival Radio</a></em><a href="https://amzn.to/3MembDZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> by Kathryn Nolan</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://www.vogue.com/article/stud-budz-natisha-hiedeman-courtney-williams" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Stud Budz</a>, WNBA players Courtney Williams &amp; Natisha Hiedeman, did a long livestream during the 2025 All Star Weekend, and they <u><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@iamtoridorsett/video/7529245370325486903" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sang and</a></u> <u><a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/DMVVp_CRsAD/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&amp;igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">danced to Pink Pony Club</a></u>. Check out <u><a href="https://www.instagram.com/babesinchicago/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Babes Sports Bar</a></u> if you’re ever in Chicago. Jen did an event there, cohosted by <u><a href="https://www.instagram.com/831storieshq/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">831 Stories</a></u> &amp; <u><a href="https://www.instagram.com/offthedribble.chi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Off the Dribble Chicago</a></u>, an organization for basketball-playing women and girls in the city.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Prince <u><a href="https://variety.com/2023/music/news/prince-symbol-why-he-changed-his-name-1235635422/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">renamed himself as a symbol</a></u> when fighting with his record label.</li></ol><br/><h2><strong>Sponsors</strong></h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Blue Box Press</strong>, publishers of <strong>Dylan Allen’s <em>Rivers Wilde</em></strong> rereleased paperbacks, available in print, ebook or audiobook. Get the redesigned paperbacks at <a href="https://amzn.to/4rWcyZG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-legacy-dylan-allen/1130240950?ean=9781968707958" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781729007952" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>The Romantasy Letters</strong>, A new kind of romantic fantasy storytelling, delivered right to your door twice monthly. Use the code FATED to get 20% off your year's subscription. <a href="http://romantasyletters.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at RomantasyLetters.com</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>MA Wardell</strong>, author of <strong><em>Peaches &amp; Pucks</em></strong>, available in print, ebook and audiobook at <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/peaches-and-pucks-m-a-wardell/1148705537?ean=9781964146157" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781964146157" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bookshop.org</a> or with <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FX4M28QS/?bestFormat=true&amp;k=peaches%20and%20pucks&amp;crid=XPJPKCU5ZEHN&amp;sprefix=peaches%20and%20pucks" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Jennifer Iacopelli</strong>, author of <strong><em>Game, Set, Match</em></strong>, available in print, ebook and audiobook at <a href="https://amzn.to/3ZNWEEx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/game-set-match-jennifer-iacopelli/1115225895?ean=9780316597906" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/ww/en/ebook/game-set-match-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/gr/book/game-set-match/id6748446893" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://amzn.to/4aThpVI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li></ol><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen"...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our old pal Billy Shakes told us that music is the food of love, and we’re taking that to heart this week! By request from Eric (who’s never requested anything before), we’re looking at songs that charted in February over the years and matching them with romance novels that suit! We’ve got a little bit of something for everyone here, from historicals to paranormals, motorcycles to mafia to magical realism. Eric’s put together a playlist, and you can find links to that and articles about a bunch of these songs in show notes, or you can just head straight to reading the books. We don’t judge!</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, or more romance lovers who love music, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community (complete with a music channel)! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <u><a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a></u>.</p><p>Our next read along (in March) is <em><u><a href="https://amzn.to/49YUyGN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sincerely, Your Inconvenient Wife</a></u></em> by Julia Wolf. Find it in ebook or paperback, or <a href="https://amzn.to/4q7sM0x" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</p><h2>Notes</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>You can listen to the accompanying playlist on <a href="https://music.apple.com/us/playlist/chart-topping-songs-and-their-perfect-romance-novel/pl.u-jVmZgtoMEge" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Music</a> and <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3eXABXtOOUAVBPJfD4X8aj?si=mn_ii6_MS3-ERkkLGn5tGQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>You, too, may want to learn about <a href="https://www.instagram.com/reels/DUmcfJpjEtn/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this mahjong situation</a> brewing in the Midwest with Barbara.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>It’s the Olympics. Defector is covering all the news stories we want to know about, including <u><a href="https://defector.com/the-big-canada-sweden-curling-beef-explained" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Curling Drama between Sweden and Canada</a></u>, the ice dancers are super villains, and <u><a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/strula-holm-laegreid-norway-biathlon-cheating-girlfriend-bronze-olympics/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this Norwegian skier is an idiot</a></u>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Happy <a href="https://asalh.org/about-us/origins-of-black-history-month/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black History Month</a>! Jen did something cool at <u><a href="https://www.newberry.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Newberry Library</a></u>. It was part of the Douglass Day transcribe-a-thon, transcribing information about the Colored Conventions. You can still participate using <u><a href="https://www.zooniverse.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Zooniverse</a></u>, and looking for the <u><a href="https://www.zooniverse.org/projects/douglassday/transcribe-2026" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Douglass Day Project.</a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Sarah enjoyed learning about the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/shorts/gtsmX9z5Gw0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Asking Dumb Questions</a> class at Yale.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://stereogum.com/author/tombreihan" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tom Breihan</a></u> writes a column The<u><a href="https://stereogum.com/category/columns/the-number-ones" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Number Ones at Stereogum</a></u>, and Jen also enjoys a similar Slate podcast called <u><a href="https://slate.com/podcasts/hit-parade" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hit Parade</a></u>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Here’s the spreadsheet of February hits, and a playlist of songs we talked about today! <u><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macarena" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Macarena</a></u> is a song about love triangles! <a href="https://youtu.be/OXm6_v0rMCY?si=8XG8nC2Mft6u-O1R" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bad Romance by Lady Gaga</a> is on this list, but we only talk about books we like.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The DJ book Jen couldn’t remember was <em><a href="https://amzn.to/3MembDZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rival Radio</a></em><a href="https://amzn.to/3MembDZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> by Kathryn Nolan</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://www.vogue.com/article/stud-budz-natisha-hiedeman-courtney-williams" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Stud Budz</a>, WNBA players Courtney Williams &amp; Natisha Hiedeman, did a long livestream during the 2025 All Star Weekend, and they <u><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@iamtoridorsett/video/7529245370325486903" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sang and</a></u> <u><a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/DMVVp_CRsAD/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&amp;igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">danced to Pink Pony Club</a></u>. Check out <u><a href="https://www.instagram.com/babesinchicago/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Babes Sports Bar</a></u> if you’re ever in Chicago. Jen did an event there, cohosted by <u><a href="https://www.instagram.com/831storieshq/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">831 Stories</a></u> &amp; <u><a href="https://www.instagram.com/offthedribble.chi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Off the Dribble Chicago</a></u>, an organization for basketball-playing women and girls in the city.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Prince <u><a href="https://variety.com/2023/music/news/prince-symbol-why-he-changed-his-name-1235635422/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">renamed himself as a symbol</a></u> when fighting with his record label.</li></ol><br/><h2><strong>Sponsors</strong></h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Blue Box Press</strong>, publishers of <strong>Dylan Allen’s <em>Rivers Wilde</em></strong> rereleased paperbacks, available in print, ebook or audiobook. Get the redesigned paperbacks at <a href="https://amzn.to/4rWcyZG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-legacy-dylan-allen/1130240950?ean=9781968707958" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781729007952" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>The Romantasy Letters</strong>, A new kind of romantic fantasy storytelling, delivered right to your door twice monthly. Use the code FATED to get 20% off your year's subscription. <a href="http://romantasyletters.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at RomantasyLetters.com</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>MA Wardell</strong>, author of <strong><em>Peaches &amp; Pucks</em></strong>, available in print, ebook and audiobook at <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/peaches-and-pucks-m-a-wardell/1148705537?ean=9781964146157" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781964146157" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bookshop.org</a> or with <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FX4M28QS/?bestFormat=true&amp;k=peaches%20and%20pucks&amp;crid=XPJPKCU5ZEHN&amp;sprefix=peaches%20and%20pucks" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Jennifer Iacopelli</strong>, author of <strong><em>Game, Set, Match</em></strong>, available in print, ebook and audiobook at <a href="https://amzn.to/3ZNWEEx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/game-set-match-jennifer-iacopelli/1115225895?ean=9780316597906" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/ww/en/ebook/game-set-match-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/gr/book/game-set-match/id6748446893" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://amzn.to/4aThpVI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li></ol><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">53b04821-6611-4b65-819b-adda3cdf83d3</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2026 22:30:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/53b04821-6611-4b65-819b-adda3cdf83d3.mp3" length="116193070" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>02:01:02</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>8</itunes:season><itunes:episode>22</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>22</podcast:episode><podcast:season>8</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-56b35296-bc55-4cdd-a3de-227454e81269.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S08.21: 🌹A Dozen Roses for Valentine’s Day🌹</title><itunes:title>A Dozen Roses for Valentine’s Day</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This weekend, the world is celebrating the second most important romance holiday in February (see last week’s episode for the most important)—Valentine’s Day! To lean into the traditions of the day, we thought we’d offer you a dozen roses this week, in the form of books! We’re taking the topic broadly—from character names, to author names, to rose scented things, to roses on the page — historical, contemporary, mafia and more…there’s something in here for everyone. 🌹</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <u><a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a></u>.</p><p>Our next read along (in March) is <em><u><a href="https://amzn.to/49YUyGN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sincerely, Your Inconvenient Wife</a></u></em> by Julia Wolf. Find it in ebook or paperback, or <a href="https://amzn.to/4q7sM0x" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</p><h2>Notes</h2><p><em><u><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089457/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ladyhawke</a></u></em> is a 1985 movie starring Michelle Pfeiffer, Rutger Hauer, and Matthew Broderick.</p><p>Go see <u><a href="https://youtu.be/3fLCdIYShEQ?si=rw54b0HNR0mcdRsC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“Wuthering Heights”</a></u> if you want! It has Jacob Elordi ( even though <a href="https://www.vulture.com/article/heathcliff-wuthering-heights-white-jacob-elordi-casting.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heathcliff should be a man of color</a>) and Margot Robbie, but mostly it’s about <u><a href="https://www.vulture.com/article/review-finally-a-smooth-brained-wuthering-heights.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">capturing a vibe</a></u>.</p><p><em><u><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinners_(2025_film)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sinners</a></u></em> was terrific, it stars Michael B Jordan <u><a href="https://hunterharris.substack.com/p/michael-b-jordan-plays-one-twin-hotter" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">playing twins</a></u>, was nominated for a <u><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/film/2026/jan/22/sinners-becomes-first-film-in-history-to-earn-16-oscar-nominations" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">record-breaking 16</a></u> Oscars, and includes both an <u><a href="https://youtu.be/S7jo5Cr6WUA?si=bkg6B74fqCp2XHCq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">extraordinary sequence about the history of music</a></u> and a hero who enjoys a meal.</p><p>Well, we actually talked about a bunch of rose adjacent stuff outside of our official dozen roses. Here they are:</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://youtube.com/shorts/iaWi2b-r2lI?si=-GSWfbEjMqpy3nEY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rose DeWitt Bukater</a></u> from Titanic</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Rose Nylund from The Golden Girls <u><a href="https://www.instagram.com/reel/DT_9EYUDkeE/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&amp;igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">defending Minnesota</a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The first book in Lorraine Heath’s Rogues and Roses series is <em><u><a href="https://amzn.to/3MlRexA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Duke of Her Own</a></u></em></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>SJ Tilly (who we think is great) has an epistolary romance called <em><u><a href="https://amzn.to/3ZorZOb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dear Rosie</a></u></em></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://www.fisheries.noaa.gov/species/killer-whale" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Orca</a></u> is the official name of the killer whale</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>We wouldn’t wish <u><a href="https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/12232-hyperemesis-gravidarum" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hyperemesis gravidarum</a></u> on anyone</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Please <u><a href="https://abcnews.go.com/Health/us-sees-733-measles-cases-nationwide-month/story?id=129921325" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">don’t fuck around with measles</a></u>—get your kids vaccinated and your titers checked</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>You should probably read <em><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4ciabLZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Red</a></u></em> before you read <em>The Rose</em></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The covers and/or stepbacks of Sarah’s <u><a href="https://amzn.to/46xUjRZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rules of Scoundrels series</a></u> feature roses, and in <em><u><a href="https://amzn.to/3MgAGqM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">One Good Earl Deserves a Lover</a></u></em>, Pippa is breeding roses</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Lilah Rose is the name of the heroine in <em><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4tlTfKJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Duke Worth Falling For</a></u></em></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>We love author <u><a href="https://amzn.to/4tqLKCj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stephanie Rose</a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Here’s <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/86879.Romance_Novels_with_Rose_in_the_Title_" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a list of romances with rose in the title</a>, and another list of <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/97209._Rose_" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">books with characters named Rose</a>.</li></ol><br/><p>Jen <u><a href="https://luma.com/y8t3l9hy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">will be at Babe’s Sports Bar on Thursday, Feb 12, 2026 to talk about Rooting Interest by Cat Disabato</a></u> and at the <u><a href="https://whiteoak.librarycalendar.com/event/fated-mates-podcast-48752#" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">White Oak Library in Romeoville at 10:30am on Saturday February 21, 2026</a></u>.</p><p>On Saturday, March 7th, Sarah will be at the <u><a href="https://rogersfreelibrary.org/bristolromancecon/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ballrooms and Beyond Conference in Bristol, RI.</a></u> The event is free, but registration is required. Also, there’s a (not free) cocktail party!</p><h2><strong>Sponsors</strong></h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Blue Box Press</strong>, publishers of <strong>Jennifer L. Armentrout’s <em>The Primal of Blood and Bone</em></strong> limited edition paperback, available in print, ebook or audiobook, at <a href="https://amzn.to/4rOA8aN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-primal-of-blood-and-bone-special-edition-jennifer-l-armentrout/1148953991?ean=9781968707019" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781968707019" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Harpercollins</strong>, publishers of <strong>AT Qureshi’s <em>The Baby Dragon Bookshop</em></strong>, available in print, ebook and audiobook at <a href="https://amzn.to/4qt0uOo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-baby-dragon-bookshop-a-t-qureshi/1146506575?ean=9780008742966" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-baby-dragon-bookshop-the-baby-dragon-series-book-3?sId=03accb99-0a41-4060-9eeb-47c79d336ab1&amp;ssId=kIgvm3vZiv-d6cMOVXzuo&amp;cPos=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-baby-dragon-bookshop/id6737715890" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780008742966" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Lyx Books</strong>, publishers of <strong>Brittany Cherry’s <em>Eleanor &amp; Grey</em></strong>, available in print, ebook and audiobook at <a href="https://amzn.to/4akCtTG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/eleanor-grey-brittainy-cherry/1133087574?ean=9798893311105" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/eleanor-grey-1?sId=a45fc02b-d47e-41c9-b3a7-185303b9821c&amp;ssId=8nVO3V8Ta5Z3f2Haa_c2W&amp;cPos=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/eleanor-grey/id6747035996" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9798893311105" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Tarina Deaton</strong>, author of <em>Day in the Knight</em>, available in print, ebook and audiobook at <a href="https://amzn.to/4raWMKB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This weekend, the world is celebrating the second most important romance holiday in February (see last week’s episode for the most important)—Valentine’s Day! To lean into the traditions of the day, we thought we’d offer you a dozen roses this week, in the form of books! We’re taking the topic broadly—from character names, to author names, to rose scented things, to roses on the page — historical, contemporary, mafia and more…there’s something in here for everyone. 🌹</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <u><a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a></u>.</p><p>Our next read along (in March) is <em><u><a href="https://amzn.to/49YUyGN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sincerely, Your Inconvenient Wife</a></u></em> by Julia Wolf. Find it in ebook or paperback, or <a href="https://amzn.to/4q7sM0x" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</p><h2>Notes</h2><p><em><u><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089457/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ladyhawke</a></u></em> is a 1985 movie starring Michelle Pfeiffer, Rutger Hauer, and Matthew Broderick.</p><p>Go see <u><a href="https://youtu.be/3fLCdIYShEQ?si=rw54b0HNR0mcdRsC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“Wuthering Heights”</a></u> if you want! It has Jacob Elordi ( even though <a href="https://www.vulture.com/article/heathcliff-wuthering-heights-white-jacob-elordi-casting.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heathcliff should be a man of color</a>) and Margot Robbie, but mostly it’s about <u><a href="https://www.vulture.com/article/review-finally-a-smooth-brained-wuthering-heights.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">capturing a vibe</a></u>.</p><p><em><u><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinners_(2025_film)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sinners</a></u></em> was terrific, it stars Michael B Jordan <u><a href="https://hunterharris.substack.com/p/michael-b-jordan-plays-one-twin-hotter" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">playing twins</a></u>, was nominated for a <u><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/film/2026/jan/22/sinners-becomes-first-film-in-history-to-earn-16-oscar-nominations" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">record-breaking 16</a></u> Oscars, and includes both an <u><a href="https://youtu.be/S7jo5Cr6WUA?si=bkg6B74fqCp2XHCq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">extraordinary sequence about the history of music</a></u> and a hero who enjoys a meal.</p><p>Well, we actually talked about a bunch of rose adjacent stuff outside of our official dozen roses. Here they are:</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://youtube.com/shorts/iaWi2b-r2lI?si=-GSWfbEjMqpy3nEY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rose DeWitt Bukater</a></u> from Titanic</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Rose Nylund from The Golden Girls <u><a href="https://www.instagram.com/reel/DT_9EYUDkeE/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&amp;igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">defending Minnesota</a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The first book in Lorraine Heath’s Rogues and Roses series is <em><u><a href="https://amzn.to/3MlRexA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Duke of Her Own</a></u></em></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>SJ Tilly (who we think is great) has an epistolary romance called <em><u><a href="https://amzn.to/3ZorZOb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dear Rosie</a></u></em></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://www.fisheries.noaa.gov/species/killer-whale" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Orca</a></u> is the official name of the killer whale</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>We wouldn’t wish <u><a href="https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/12232-hyperemesis-gravidarum" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hyperemesis gravidarum</a></u> on anyone</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Please <u><a href="https://abcnews.go.com/Health/us-sees-733-measles-cases-nationwide-month/story?id=129921325" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">don’t fuck around with measles</a></u>—get your kids vaccinated and your titers checked</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>You should probably read <em><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4ciabLZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Red</a></u></em> before you read <em>The Rose</em></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The covers and/or stepbacks of Sarah’s <u><a href="https://amzn.to/46xUjRZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rules of Scoundrels series</a></u> feature roses, and in <em><u><a href="https://amzn.to/3MgAGqM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">One Good Earl Deserves a Lover</a></u></em>, Pippa is breeding roses</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Lilah Rose is the name of the heroine in <em><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4tlTfKJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Duke Worth Falling For</a></u></em></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>We love author <u><a href="https://amzn.to/4tqLKCj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stephanie Rose</a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Here’s <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/86879.Romance_Novels_with_Rose_in_the_Title_" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a list of romances with rose in the title</a>, and another list of <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/97209._Rose_" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">books with characters named Rose</a>.</li></ol><br/><p>Jen <u><a href="https://luma.com/y8t3l9hy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">will be at Babe’s Sports Bar on Thursday, Feb 12, 2026 to talk about Rooting Interest by Cat Disabato</a></u> and at the <u><a href="https://whiteoak.librarycalendar.com/event/fated-mates-podcast-48752#" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">White Oak Library in Romeoville at 10:30am on Saturday February 21, 2026</a></u>.</p><p>On Saturday, March 7th, Sarah will be at the <u><a href="https://rogersfreelibrary.org/bristolromancecon/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ballrooms and Beyond Conference in Bristol, RI.</a></u> The event is free, but registration is required. Also, there’s a (not free) cocktail party!</p><h2><strong>Sponsors</strong></h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Blue Box Press</strong>, publishers of <strong>Jennifer L. Armentrout’s <em>The Primal of Blood and Bone</em></strong> limited edition paperback, available in print, ebook or audiobook, at <a href="https://amzn.to/4rOA8aN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-primal-of-blood-and-bone-special-edition-jennifer-l-armentrout/1148953991?ean=9781968707019" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781968707019" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Harpercollins</strong>, publishers of <strong>AT Qureshi’s <em>The Baby Dragon Bookshop</em></strong>, available in print, ebook and audiobook at <a href="https://amzn.to/4qt0uOo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-baby-dragon-bookshop-a-t-qureshi/1146506575?ean=9780008742966" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-baby-dragon-bookshop-the-baby-dragon-series-book-3?sId=03accb99-0a41-4060-9eeb-47c79d336ab1&amp;ssId=kIgvm3vZiv-d6cMOVXzuo&amp;cPos=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-baby-dragon-bookshop/id6737715890" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780008742966" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Lyx Books</strong>, publishers of <strong>Brittany Cherry’s <em>Eleanor &amp; Grey</em></strong>, available in print, ebook and audiobook at <a href="https://amzn.to/4akCtTG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/eleanor-grey-brittainy-cherry/1133087574?ean=9798893311105" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/eleanor-grey-1?sId=a45fc02b-d47e-41c9-b3a7-185303b9821c&amp;ssId=8nVO3V8Ta5Z3f2Haa_c2W&amp;cPos=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/eleanor-grey/id6747035996" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9798893311105" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Tarina Deaton</strong>, author of <em>Day in the Knight</em>, available in print, ebook and audiobook at <a href="https://amzn.to/4raWMKB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/day-in-the-knight-tarina-deaton/1148835629?ean=2940185038222" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/day-in-the-knight" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/day-in-the-knight/id6755893240" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781950442171" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>, or <a href="https://libro.fm/audiobooks/9781950442195" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your audiobooks</a>.</li></ol><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">3de5a0e9-2b46-4c0b-910a-82ef7da980d5</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2026 22:30:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/3de5a0e9-2b46-4c0b-910a-82ef7da980d5.mp3" length="121856834" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>02:06:56</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>8</itunes:season><itunes:episode>21</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>21</podcast:episode><podcast:season>8</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-bd8ffc61-e4d6-4f5f-9fe9-f1f438451549.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S08.20: Trailblazer Lisa Kleypas</title><itunes:title>Trailblazer Lisa Kleypas</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It’s finally happened! In a perfect <a href="https://fatedmates.net/derek-craven-day" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Derek Craven Day</a> celebration, our Trailblazer conversations continue this week with thee Lisa Kleypas, historical romance royalty, who changed the game when she brought working class heroes to historicals. We discuss her four decades of work in romance, from historical to contemporary to magical realism and now into historical fiction, touching on the Kleypas hero, the way she builds series, and the ways that she continues to push herself as a storyteller. And yes, she was kind enough to play a round of Derek Craven Would Never.</p><p>We are so grateful to Lisa Kleypas for making time for us, for her amazing books, and for Derek Craven Day.</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <u><a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a></u>.</p><p>Our next read along (in March) is <em><u><a href="https://amzn.to/49YUyGN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sincerely, Your Inconvenient Wife</a></u></em> by Julia Wolf. Find it in ebook or paperback, or <a href="https://amzn.to/4q7sM0x" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</p><h2>Lisa Kleypas Books Mentioned This Episode</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4c7CpsT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Then Came You</a></u> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4btLhsA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dreaming of You</a></u> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4a6Hgb5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chasing Cassandra</a></u> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/693039.Forever_My_Love?scrlybrkr=958e9960" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Forever My Love</a></u> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/3ZeBsaB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Vallerands Series</a></u> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/3ZMgTCB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Wallflowers Series</a></u> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4qVl4rC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Again the Magic</a></u> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/465Te3R" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Devil in Winter</a></u> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/45MB1YO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Marrying Winterborne</a></u> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4tmeYCv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love in the Afternoon</a></u> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/46mUPC7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Devil in Spring</a></u> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4c4PuTI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hello Stranger </a></u> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4qivikW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sugar Daddy</a></u> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4btMksw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Queen of Lombard Street</a></u> by Lisa Kleypas</li></ol><br/><h2>Notes</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://lisakleypas.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Welcome Lisa Kleypas</a></u>. This fall, she’s releasing her first historical fiction novel, <u><a href="https://amzn.to/45Jkyoa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Queen of Lombard Street</a></u>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>People mentioned: editor <u><a href="https://romancehistory.com/2022/03/17/carolyn-nichols/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Carolyn Nichols</a></u>, editor <u><a href="https://robimes.blogspot.com/2020/11/an-index-of-avon-romance-1982-1989.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ellen Edwards</a></u>, author <u><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_Kinsale?scrlybrkr=958e9960" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Laura Kinsale</a></u>, author <u><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebecca_Brandewyne" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rebecca Brandewyne</a></u>, author <u><a href="https://www.stephanielaurens.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stephanie Laurens</a></u>, author <u><a href="https://juliaquinn.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Julia Quinn</a></u>, editor <u><a href="https://stmartinspublishinggroup.com/editorial-team/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen Enderlin</a></u>, editor <u><a href="https://simonandschusterpublishing.com/gallery-books/carrie-feron.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Carrie Feron</a></u>, author <u><a href="https://eloisajames.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Eloisa James</a></u>, author <u><a href="https://jennycrusie.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jennifer Crusie</a></u>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Other notable mentions: <u><a href="https://louisamayalcott.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Louisa May Alcott’s Hous</a></u>e in Concord MA, <u><a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/crockfords-club-how-a-fishmonger-built-a-gambling-hall-and-bankrupted-the-british-aristocracy-148268691/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">William Crockford</a></u> the inspiration for Derek Craven, the <u><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/2/3/0621-derek-craven-day-2024" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">observation about industry vs crime was (of course) made by Sanj</a></u>, and <u><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Garrett_Anderson" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Elizabeth Garrett Anderson</a></u> the inspiration for Dr. Garrett Gibson.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://groundhog-apricot-gbcy.squarespace.com/derek-craven-day" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Keep up with everything Derek Craven!</a></li></ol><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Blue Box Press</strong>, publishers of <strong>Audrey Carlan’s Marriage Auction Series</strong> novellas <em><a href="https://amzn.to/4bzC2qN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Madam Alana</a></em> and <em><a href="https://amzn.to/4c6keDQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Christmas Auction</a></em>. Available in print or ebook, or with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited. Learn more at <a href="https://theblueboxpress.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">TheBlueBoxPress.com</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>The Romantasy Letters</strong>, A new kind of romantic fantasy storytelling, delivered right to your door twice monthly. Use the code FATED to get 20% off your year's subscription. <a href="http://romantasyletters.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at RomantasyLetters.com</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Jennifer Iacopelli</strong>, author of <em>Game, Set, Match</em>, available in print, ebook and audiobook at <a href="https://amzn.to/3ZNWEEx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/game-set-match-jennifer-iacopelli/1115225895?ean=9780316597906" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/ww/en/ebook/game-set-match-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/gr/book/game-set-match/id6748446893" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780316603317" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Lumi Labs</strong>, creators of Lumi Gummies. Go to <u><a href="https://lumigummies.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lumigummies.com</a></u> and use code FATEDMATES for 30% off your order.</li></ol><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2026/2/2/0820-trailblazer-lisa-kleypas </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s finally happened! In a perfect <a href="https://fatedmates.net/derek-craven-day" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Derek Craven Day</a> celebration, our Trailblazer conversations continue this week with thee Lisa Kleypas, historical romance royalty, who changed the game when she brought working class heroes to historicals. We discuss her four decades of work in romance, from historical to contemporary to magical realism and now into historical fiction, touching on the Kleypas hero, the way she builds series, and the ways that she continues to push herself as a storyteller. And yes, she was kind enough to play a round of Derek Craven Would Never.</p><p>We are so grateful to Lisa Kleypas for making time for us, for her amazing books, and for Derek Craven Day.</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <u><a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a></u>.</p><p>Our next read along (in March) is <em><u><a href="https://amzn.to/49YUyGN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sincerely, Your Inconvenient Wife</a></u></em> by Julia Wolf. Find it in ebook or paperback, or <a href="https://amzn.to/4q7sM0x" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</p><h2>Lisa Kleypas Books Mentioned This Episode</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4c7CpsT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Then Came You</a></u> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4btLhsA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dreaming of You</a></u> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4a6Hgb5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chasing Cassandra</a></u> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/693039.Forever_My_Love?scrlybrkr=958e9960" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Forever My Love</a></u> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/3ZeBsaB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Vallerands Series</a></u> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/3ZMgTCB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Wallflowers Series</a></u> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4qVl4rC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Again the Magic</a></u> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/465Te3R" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Devil in Winter</a></u> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/45MB1YO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Marrying Winterborne</a></u> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4tmeYCv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love in the Afternoon</a></u> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/46mUPC7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Devil in Spring</a></u> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4c4PuTI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hello Stranger </a></u> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4qivikW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sugar Daddy</a></u> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4btMksw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Queen of Lombard Street</a></u> by Lisa Kleypas</li></ol><br/><h2>Notes</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://lisakleypas.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Welcome Lisa Kleypas</a></u>. This fall, she’s releasing her first historical fiction novel, <u><a href="https://amzn.to/45Jkyoa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Queen of Lombard Street</a></u>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>People mentioned: editor <u><a href="https://romancehistory.com/2022/03/17/carolyn-nichols/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Carolyn Nichols</a></u>, editor <u><a href="https://robimes.blogspot.com/2020/11/an-index-of-avon-romance-1982-1989.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ellen Edwards</a></u>, author <u><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_Kinsale?scrlybrkr=958e9960" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Laura Kinsale</a></u>, author <u><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebecca_Brandewyne" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rebecca Brandewyne</a></u>, author <u><a href="https://www.stephanielaurens.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stephanie Laurens</a></u>, author <u><a href="https://juliaquinn.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Julia Quinn</a></u>, editor <u><a href="https://stmartinspublishinggroup.com/editorial-team/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen Enderlin</a></u>, editor <u><a href="https://simonandschusterpublishing.com/gallery-books/carrie-feron.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Carrie Feron</a></u>, author <u><a href="https://eloisajames.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Eloisa James</a></u>, author <u><a href="https://jennycrusie.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jennifer Crusie</a></u>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Other notable mentions: <u><a href="https://louisamayalcott.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Louisa May Alcott’s Hous</a></u>e in Concord MA, <u><a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/crockfords-club-how-a-fishmonger-built-a-gambling-hall-and-bankrupted-the-british-aristocracy-148268691/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">William Crockford</a></u> the inspiration for Derek Craven, the <u><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/2/3/0621-derek-craven-day-2024" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">observation about industry vs crime was (of course) made by Sanj</a></u>, and <u><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Garrett_Anderson" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Elizabeth Garrett Anderson</a></u> the inspiration for Dr. Garrett Gibson.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://groundhog-apricot-gbcy.squarespace.com/derek-craven-day" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Keep up with everything Derek Craven!</a></li></ol><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Blue Box Press</strong>, publishers of <strong>Audrey Carlan’s Marriage Auction Series</strong> novellas <em><a href="https://amzn.to/4bzC2qN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Madam Alana</a></em> and <em><a href="https://amzn.to/4c6keDQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Christmas Auction</a></em>. Available in print or ebook, or with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited. Learn more at <a href="https://theblueboxpress.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">TheBlueBoxPress.com</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>The Romantasy Letters</strong>, A new kind of romantic fantasy storytelling, delivered right to your door twice monthly. Use the code FATED to get 20% off your year's subscription. <a href="http://romantasyletters.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at RomantasyLetters.com</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Jennifer Iacopelli</strong>, author of <em>Game, Set, Match</em>, available in print, ebook and audiobook at <a href="https://amzn.to/3ZNWEEx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/game-set-match-jennifer-iacopelli/1115225895?ean=9780316597906" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/ww/en/ebook/game-set-match-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/gr/book/game-set-match/id6748446893" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780316603317" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Lumi Labs</strong>, creators of Lumi Gummies. Go to <u><a href="https://lumigummies.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lumigummies.com</a></u> and use code FATEDMATES for 30% off your order.</li></ol><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2026/2/2/0820-trailblazer-lisa-kleypas </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2026/2/2/0820-trailblazer-lisa-kleypas]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">45c334ec-d556-4b9e-a68c-c2f22669f6af</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bd275745-9129-473f-a981-472ea3404a6f/RED-trailblazers.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2026 23:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/45c334ec-d556-4b9e-a68c-c2f22669f6af.mp3" length="113441226" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:58:10</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>8</itunes:season><itunes:episode>20</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>20</podcast:episode><podcast:season>8</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-202342f9-3b37-4e1d-958c-12ece6d44506.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S08.19: Ice Planet Barbarians</title><itunes:title>Ice Planet Barbarians</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It’s a snowstorm, Jen’s from Chicago, and we’re feeling extra qualified to talk about Ice Planet Barbarians! It’s the book, and the series that took the world by storm back in 2015, and we’re revisiting the absolute powerhouse it was then, before it launched an entire subgenre of romance and changed the romance landscape. We’re also talking about Ruby Dixon’s clear skill, her obvious love of the genre, and all the ways she makes us both laugh and sigh.</p><p>If you have a favorite IPB book and you want to talk about it, come find us (and other romance lovers) on the Fated Mates Discord, which you can access by joining our patreon. Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>.</p><p>Our next read along (in March) is <em><u><a href="https://amzn.to/49YUyGN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sincerely, Your Inconvenient Wife</a></u></em> by Julia Wolf. Find it in ebook or paperback, or <a href="https://amzn.to/4q7sM0x" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</p><h2>Notes</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://www.thoughtco.com/where-did-the-term-horsepower-come-from-4153171" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Horsepower </a></u>is definitely the same as <u><a href="https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fgolden-retrievers-for-scale-v0-sfnst109r1fg1.png%3Fauto%3Dwebp%26s%3D3e82a79d94913caab667e9e2eb357f1e922f2ed2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">measuring the weight of ice in golden retriever pounds. </a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>There’s lot of ways to support the people of Minnesota right now. A good clearinghouse site is <u><a href="https://www.standwithminnesota.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stand With Minnesota.</a></u> You can also order directly from area bookstores: <u><a href="https://www.tropesandtrifles.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tropes and Trifles</a></u>, <u><a href="https://www.blackgarnetbooks.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Garnet Books</a></u>, or <u><a href="https://birchbarkbooks.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Birchbark Books</a></u>, or use <u><a href="http://bookshop.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.Org</a></u> for any number of Minnesota stores. Monarca If you are looking to support whistle production, You can also support other Romancelandia efforts. Bree (from Kit Rocha) is part of a team of people that <u><a href="https://linktr.ee/3Dwhistles" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">have printed over 150k whistles this month alone</a>!</u> Romancing the Vote will also be back up this summer, so look for information on that. Along with <u><a href="https://monarcamn.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Monarca</a></u>, Indivisible is also holding <u><a href="https://indivisible.org/events/eyes-on-ice-document-and-record-4/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">trainings to teach people how to document and record ICE. </a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Get ready, <a href="https://groundhog-apricot-gbcy.squarespace.com/derek-craven-day" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Derek Craven Day is nigh</a>!</li></ol><br/><p>It’s February, so lots of upcoming romance events to check out!</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Feb 12, 2026</strong>: <a href="https://luma.com/y8t3l9hy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen will be at Babe’s Sports Bar</a> to discuss a WNBA romance, Rooting Interest.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Feb 14, 2026</strong>: the Free Library of Philadelphia will be holding <a href="https://libwww.freelibrary.org/calendar/event/162979" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a </a><em><a href="https://libwww.freelibrary.org/calendar/event/162979" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heated Rivalry Event</a></em> with Xio Axelrod, Rosie Danan &amp; Joanna Shupe.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Feb 21, 2026</strong>: <a href="https://whiteoak.librarycalendar.com/event/fated-mates-podcast-48752#" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen will be in Romeoville</a> to discuss Romance.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Feb 21, 2026</strong>: <a href="https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1440809039666614273/1465527896608084090/bafkreib6jmjrohmyrtejhvzd4na7rt4gnwqqd7hdaaa7thz657gbtwsynijpeg.png?ex=697a1776&amp;is=6978c5f6&amp;hm=dcd7843639102fecf48fdb1c81f86e13d15c0777f7b9f9646d669343ead64e7b&amp;=&amp;format=webp&amp;quality=lossless&amp;width=1050&amp;height=1312" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">An online </a><em><a href="https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1440809039666614273/1465527896608084090/bafkreib6jmjrohmyrtejhvzd4na7rt4gnwqqd7hdaaa7thz657gbtwsynijpeg.png?ex=697a1776&amp;is=6978c5f6&amp;hm=dcd7843639102fecf48fdb1c81f86e13d15c0777f7b9f9646d669343ead64e7b&amp;=&amp;format=webp&amp;quality=lossless&amp;width=1050&amp;height=1312" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heated Rivalry</a></em><a href="https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1440809039666614273/1465527896608084090/bafkreib6jmjrohmyrtejhvzd4na7rt4gnwqqd7hdaaa7thz657gbtwsynijpeg.png?ex=697a1776&amp;is=6978c5f6&amp;hm=dcd7843639102fecf48fdb1c81f86e13d15c0777f7b9f9646d669343ead64e7b&amp;=&amp;format=webp&amp;quality=lossless&amp;width=1050&amp;height=1312" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Trivia event</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>March 7, 2026</strong>: Sarah will join a group of historical romance authors for <a href="https://www.lindenplace.org/romancecon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ballrooms &amp; Beyond</a>, a daylong celebration of historical romance at Linden Place in Bristol, RI.</li></ol><br/><p>Oh, finally, some notes <u><a href="https://www.cnn.com/style/article/ice-planet-barbarians-tiktok-book-ruby-dixon-trnd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">about </a></u><em><u><a href="https://www.cnn.com/style/article/ice-planet-barbarians-tiktok-book-ruby-dixon-trnd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ice Planet Barbarians</a></u></em><u><a href="https://www.cnn.com/style/article/ice-planet-barbarians-tiktok-book-ruby-dixon-trnd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">.</a></u></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Our friend Dani Lacey was the host of <u><a href="https://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/ice-planet-podcast-1198265" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ice Planet Pod</a></u> if you’re looking for read-alongs.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_girl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The final girl</a></u> is a horror trope!</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Our next read along is <em><u><a href="https://amzn.to/49YUyGN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sincerely, Your Inconvenient Wife</a></u></em> by Julia Wolf. Find it in ebook or paperback, or <a href="https://amzn.to/4q7sM0x" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li></ol><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Blue Box Press</strong>, publishers of new special editions of:</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Donna Grant’s <em>Dragon Kings </em>novellas</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Jennifer L. Armentrout’s <em>From Blood and Ash</em>, featuring sprayed edges and embossed and glossy cover design elements; and</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Heather Graham's <em>Krewe of Hunter</em> and <em>Cafferty and Quinn</em> novellas.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Learn more at <a href="https://theblueboxpress.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">TheBlueBoxPress.com</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>RomantasyLetters</strong>, A new kind of romantic fantasy storytelling, delivered right to your door twice monthly. Use the code FATED to get 20% off your year's subscription. <a href="http://romantasyletters.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at RomantasyLetters.com</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Denise Williams</strong>, author of <em>The Re-Do List</em>, available in print, ebook and audiobook at <a href="https://amzn.to/4a4NUPn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-re-do-list-denise-williams/1147398083?ean=9780593641453" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-re-do-list?sId=a63de10e-b93a-48ee-ba44-76f19e44267d&amp;ssId=eJq8wMLGBEtLmpTTj97Lf&amp;cPos=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-black-dagger-brotherhood/id6748412922" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780593641453" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Jennifer Vido</strong>, author of <em>Simplicity by the Sea</em>, available in...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s a snowstorm, Jen’s from Chicago, and we’re feeling extra qualified to talk about Ice Planet Barbarians! It’s the book, and the series that took the world by storm back in 2015, and we’re revisiting the absolute powerhouse it was then, before it launched an entire subgenre of romance and changed the romance landscape. We’re also talking about Ruby Dixon’s clear skill, her obvious love of the genre, and all the ways she makes us both laugh and sigh.</p><p>If you have a favorite IPB book and you want to talk about it, come find us (and other romance lovers) on the Fated Mates Discord, which you can access by joining our patreon. Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>.</p><p>Our next read along (in March) is <em><u><a href="https://amzn.to/49YUyGN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sincerely, Your Inconvenient Wife</a></u></em> by Julia Wolf. Find it in ebook or paperback, or <a href="https://amzn.to/4q7sM0x" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</p><h2>Notes</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://www.thoughtco.com/where-did-the-term-horsepower-come-from-4153171" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Horsepower </a></u>is definitely the same as <u><a href="https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fgolden-retrievers-for-scale-v0-sfnst109r1fg1.png%3Fauto%3Dwebp%26s%3D3e82a79d94913caab667e9e2eb357f1e922f2ed2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">measuring the weight of ice in golden retriever pounds. </a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>There’s lot of ways to support the people of Minnesota right now. A good clearinghouse site is <u><a href="https://www.standwithminnesota.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stand With Minnesota.</a></u> You can also order directly from area bookstores: <u><a href="https://www.tropesandtrifles.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tropes and Trifles</a></u>, <u><a href="https://www.blackgarnetbooks.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Garnet Books</a></u>, or <u><a href="https://birchbarkbooks.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Birchbark Books</a></u>, or use <u><a href="http://bookshop.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.Org</a></u> for any number of Minnesota stores. Monarca If you are looking to support whistle production, You can also support other Romancelandia efforts. Bree (from Kit Rocha) is part of a team of people that <u><a href="https://linktr.ee/3Dwhistles" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">have printed over 150k whistles this month alone</a>!</u> Romancing the Vote will also be back up this summer, so look for information on that. Along with <u><a href="https://monarcamn.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Monarca</a></u>, Indivisible is also holding <u><a href="https://indivisible.org/events/eyes-on-ice-document-and-record-4/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">trainings to teach people how to document and record ICE. </a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Get ready, <a href="https://groundhog-apricot-gbcy.squarespace.com/derek-craven-day" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Derek Craven Day is nigh</a>!</li></ol><br/><p>It’s February, so lots of upcoming romance events to check out!</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Feb 12, 2026</strong>: <a href="https://luma.com/y8t3l9hy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen will be at Babe’s Sports Bar</a> to discuss a WNBA romance, Rooting Interest.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Feb 14, 2026</strong>: the Free Library of Philadelphia will be holding <a href="https://libwww.freelibrary.org/calendar/event/162979" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a </a><em><a href="https://libwww.freelibrary.org/calendar/event/162979" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heated Rivalry Event</a></em> with Xio Axelrod, Rosie Danan &amp; Joanna Shupe.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Feb 21, 2026</strong>: <a href="https://whiteoak.librarycalendar.com/event/fated-mates-podcast-48752#" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen will be in Romeoville</a> to discuss Romance.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Feb 21, 2026</strong>: <a href="https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1440809039666614273/1465527896608084090/bafkreib6jmjrohmyrtejhvzd4na7rt4gnwqqd7hdaaa7thz657gbtwsynijpeg.png?ex=697a1776&amp;is=6978c5f6&amp;hm=dcd7843639102fecf48fdb1c81f86e13d15c0777f7b9f9646d669343ead64e7b&amp;=&amp;format=webp&amp;quality=lossless&amp;width=1050&amp;height=1312" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">An online </a><em><a href="https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1440809039666614273/1465527896608084090/bafkreib6jmjrohmyrtejhvzd4na7rt4gnwqqd7hdaaa7thz657gbtwsynijpeg.png?ex=697a1776&amp;is=6978c5f6&amp;hm=dcd7843639102fecf48fdb1c81f86e13d15c0777f7b9f9646d669343ead64e7b&amp;=&amp;format=webp&amp;quality=lossless&amp;width=1050&amp;height=1312" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heated Rivalry</a></em><a href="https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1440809039666614273/1465527896608084090/bafkreib6jmjrohmyrtejhvzd4na7rt4gnwqqd7hdaaa7thz657gbtwsynijpeg.png?ex=697a1776&amp;is=6978c5f6&amp;hm=dcd7843639102fecf48fdb1c81f86e13d15c0777f7b9f9646d669343ead64e7b&amp;=&amp;format=webp&amp;quality=lossless&amp;width=1050&amp;height=1312" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Trivia event</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>March 7, 2026</strong>: Sarah will join a group of historical romance authors for <a href="https://www.lindenplace.org/romancecon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ballrooms &amp; Beyond</a>, a daylong celebration of historical romance at Linden Place in Bristol, RI.</li></ol><br/><p>Oh, finally, some notes <u><a href="https://www.cnn.com/style/article/ice-planet-barbarians-tiktok-book-ruby-dixon-trnd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">about </a></u><em><u><a href="https://www.cnn.com/style/article/ice-planet-barbarians-tiktok-book-ruby-dixon-trnd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ice Planet Barbarians</a></u></em><u><a href="https://www.cnn.com/style/article/ice-planet-barbarians-tiktok-book-ruby-dixon-trnd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">.</a></u></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Our friend Dani Lacey was the host of <u><a href="https://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/ice-planet-podcast-1198265" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ice Planet Pod</a></u> if you’re looking for read-alongs.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_girl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The final girl</a></u> is a horror trope!</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Our next read along is <em><u><a href="https://amzn.to/49YUyGN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sincerely, Your Inconvenient Wife</a></u></em> by Julia Wolf. Find it in ebook or paperback, or <a href="https://amzn.to/4q7sM0x" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li></ol><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Blue Box Press</strong>, publishers of new special editions of:</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Donna Grant’s <em>Dragon Kings </em>novellas</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Jennifer L. Armentrout’s <em>From Blood and Ash</em>, featuring sprayed edges and embossed and glossy cover design elements; and</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Heather Graham's <em>Krewe of Hunter</em> and <em>Cafferty and Quinn</em> novellas.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Learn more at <a href="https://theblueboxpress.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">TheBlueBoxPress.com</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>RomantasyLetters</strong>, A new kind of romantic fantasy storytelling, delivered right to your door twice monthly. Use the code FATED to get 20% off your year's subscription. <a href="http://romantasyletters.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at RomantasyLetters.com</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Denise Williams</strong>, author of <em>The Re-Do List</em>, available in print, ebook and audiobook at <a href="https://amzn.to/4a4NUPn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-re-do-list-denise-williams/1147398083?ean=9780593641453" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-re-do-list?sId=a63de10e-b93a-48ee-ba44-76f19e44267d&amp;ssId=eJq8wMLGBEtLmpTTj97Lf&amp;cPos=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-black-dagger-brotherhood/id6748412922" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780593641453" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Jennifer Vido</strong>, author of <em>Simplicity by the Sea</em>, available in print or ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/49YaWan" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/simplicity-by-the-sea-jennifer-vido/1148670681?ean=2940185155097" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/simplicity-by-the-sea-1?sId=ffa83f29-991b-43ef-98c4-7a7041c82faf&amp;ssId=IeM_Kc13Nmn0Vo27BGb_i&amp;cPos=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/simplicity-by-the-sea/id6754931854" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781509264216" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li></ol><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2026/1/27/s0819-ice-planet-barbarians </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2026/1/27/s0819-ice-planet-barbarians]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">578120b6-32a6-490d-b6b2-4e30170af4a2</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2026 00:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/578120b6-32a6-490d-b6b2-4e30170af4a2.mp3" length="85970859" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:29:33</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>8</itunes:season><itunes:episode>19</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>19</podcast:episode><podcast:season>8</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-068b1126-a02c-43e0-b8fd-1c674b8f752a.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S08.18: Shotgun Weddings with Jayne Ann Krentz</title><itunes:title>Shotgun Weddings with Jayne Ann Krentz</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>The brilliant Jayne Ann Krentz, romance trailblazer and royalty, joins us this week to talk about one of her favorite tropes--the shotgun wedding! We're talking all things forced marriage...how it differs from marriage of convenience, how it underscores the inherent conflict in romance, and how it often ends up being more like romantic suspense than one would expect! We also talk a bit about how secret babies (and babies in general) play into this trope. Did Jayne also say something that Sarah had to stop the interview to write down? Of course she did!</p><p>If you have favorite forced marriage/shotgun weddings, maybe you want to join the Fated Mates patreon? There, you get an extra monthly episode from us and access to the incredible readers and brilliant people on the FM Discord! Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>.</p><p>Our next read along will be Ruby Dixon’s <em>Ice Planet Barbarians</em> (you’re welcome). Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/4aBDQ1S" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/ice-planet-barbarians-ruby-dixon/1139042949" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780593546024" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>, <a href="https://libro.fm/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">libro.fm</a>, or <a href="https://amzn.to/4aBDQ1S" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</p><h2>The Books</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/49IilKS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Shop on Hidden Lane</a></u> by Jayne Ann Krentz</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4qrlzJN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Into the Storm</a></u> by Rachel Grant</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/49Enq8p" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Kingdom of Dreams</a></u> by Judith McNaught</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/45WhgxN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Broken Whispers</a></u> by Neva Altaj</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/3LSieVa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Duke’s Shotgun Wedding </a></u>by Stacy Reid</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://amzn.to/49GZzVD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Because the Baron Broods</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4quyWsJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stolen Touches</a></u> by Neva Altaj</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/45Sc0eF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mafia Virgin </a></u>by Mila Finelli</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/45l8MAb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The King’s Spinster Bride</a></u> by Ruby Dixon</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/49usoUX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ravished </a></u>by Amanda Quick</li></ol><br/><h2>Notes</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Welcome <u><a href="https://jayneannkrentz.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jayne Ann Krentz</a></u>, who also writes as Jayne Castle and Amanda Quick. Her new book is <em><u><a href="https://amzn.to/3LnEFBx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Shop on Hidden Lane</a></u></em>. Listen to <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/1/2/s0418-jayne-ann-krentz-a-trailblazer-episode" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jayne Ann Krentz's trailblazer interview</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shotgun_weddinghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shotgun_wedding" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“Shotgun wedding”</a></u> is <u><a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/shotgun%20wedding" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">an American phrase dating back to 1929</a></u>, but forcing people to get married because of pregnancy, politics and patriarchy has been around for a long time.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://thedivorceartist.com/2025/08/16/why-every-married-woman-needs-a-bank-account-in-her-own-name/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Get your own bank account</a></u>, women.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>You can listen to <u><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/12/6/s0414-elda-minger-a-trailblazer-episode" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">our trailblazer interview with Elda Minger</a></u> to hear more about the first condom in romance.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>A romantasy that Jen liked a lot (with no pregnancy plot, that’s why it’s in show notes instead of the photo array) is <u><a href="https://amzn.to/4pLyvZS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Silver &amp; Blood</a></u> by Jessie Mihalik.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>When talking about <em>The King’s Spinster Bride</em>, Jen kept saying “epilogue” when she meant “prologue.” I have no excuse for this.</li></ol><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Lexi Davis</strong>, author of <em>Pretty Vicious</em>, available in print and ebook at <a href="https://amzn.to/3NunkaC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a> or with <a href="https://amzn.to/3NunkaC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>The Romantasy Letters</strong>, A new kind of romantic fantasy storytelling, delivered right to your door twice monthly. Use the code FATED to get 20% off your year's subscription. <a href="romantasyletters.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at romantasyletters.com</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Sotto Voce Scents</strong>, candles for the romance lovers in your life. Go to <u><a href="https://sottovocescents.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sottovocescents.com</a></u> and use code FATEDMATES for 10% off your order.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Lee Taylor</strong>, author of <em>A Satchel of Richards</em>, available in print or ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/4b6c3XT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a> or <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-satchel-of-richards-lee-taylor/1148052160?ean=9798992960402" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>.</li></ol><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The brilliant Jayne Ann Krentz, romance trailblazer and royalty, joins us this week to talk about one of her favorite tropes--the shotgun wedding! We're talking all things forced marriage...how it differs from marriage of convenience, how it underscores the inherent conflict in romance, and how it often ends up being more like romantic suspense than one would expect! We also talk a bit about how secret babies (and babies in general) play into this trope. Did Jayne also say something that Sarah had to stop the interview to write down? Of course she did!</p><p>If you have favorite forced marriage/shotgun weddings, maybe you want to join the Fated Mates patreon? There, you get an extra monthly episode from us and access to the incredible readers and brilliant people on the FM Discord! Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>.</p><p>Our next read along will be Ruby Dixon’s <em>Ice Planet Barbarians</em> (you’re welcome). Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/4aBDQ1S" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/ice-planet-barbarians-ruby-dixon/1139042949" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780593546024" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>, <a href="https://libro.fm/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">libro.fm</a>, or <a href="https://amzn.to/4aBDQ1S" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</p><h2>The Books</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/49IilKS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Shop on Hidden Lane</a></u> by Jayne Ann Krentz</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4qrlzJN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Into the Storm</a></u> by Rachel Grant</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/49Enq8p" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Kingdom of Dreams</a></u> by Judith McNaught</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/45WhgxN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Broken Whispers</a></u> by Neva Altaj</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/3LSieVa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Duke’s Shotgun Wedding </a></u>by Stacy Reid</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://amzn.to/49GZzVD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Because the Baron Broods</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4quyWsJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stolen Touches</a></u> by Neva Altaj</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/45Sc0eF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mafia Virgin </a></u>by Mila Finelli</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/45l8MAb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The King’s Spinster Bride</a></u> by Ruby Dixon</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/49usoUX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ravished </a></u>by Amanda Quick</li></ol><br/><h2>Notes</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Welcome <u><a href="https://jayneannkrentz.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jayne Ann Krentz</a></u>, who also writes as Jayne Castle and Amanda Quick. Her new book is <em><u><a href="https://amzn.to/3LnEFBx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Shop on Hidden Lane</a></u></em>. Listen to <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/1/2/s0418-jayne-ann-krentz-a-trailblazer-episode" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jayne Ann Krentz's trailblazer interview</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shotgun_weddinghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shotgun_wedding" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“Shotgun wedding”</a></u> is <u><a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/shotgun%20wedding" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">an American phrase dating back to 1929</a></u>, but forcing people to get married because of pregnancy, politics and patriarchy has been around for a long time.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://thedivorceartist.com/2025/08/16/why-every-married-woman-needs-a-bank-account-in-her-own-name/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Get your own bank account</a></u>, women.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>You can listen to <u><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/12/6/s0414-elda-minger-a-trailblazer-episode" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">our trailblazer interview with Elda Minger</a></u> to hear more about the first condom in romance.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>A romantasy that Jen liked a lot (with no pregnancy plot, that’s why it’s in show notes instead of the photo array) is <u><a href="https://amzn.to/4pLyvZS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Silver &amp; Blood</a></u> by Jessie Mihalik.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>When talking about <em>The King’s Spinster Bride</em>, Jen kept saying “epilogue” when she meant “prologue.” I have no excuse for this.</li></ol><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Lexi Davis</strong>, author of <em>Pretty Vicious</em>, available in print and ebook at <a href="https://amzn.to/3NunkaC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a> or with <a href="https://amzn.to/3NunkaC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>The Romantasy Letters</strong>, A new kind of romantic fantasy storytelling, delivered right to your door twice monthly. Use the code FATED to get 20% off your year's subscription. <a href="romantasyletters.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at romantasyletters.com</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Sotto Voce Scents</strong>, candles for the romance lovers in your life. Go to <u><a href="https://sottovocescents.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sottovocescents.com</a></u> and use code FATEDMATES for 10% off your order.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Lee Taylor</strong>, author of <em>A Satchel of Richards</em>, available in print or ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/4b6c3XT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a> or <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-satchel-of-richards-lee-taylor/1148052160?ean=9798992960402" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>.</li></ol><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2026/1/19/s0818-shotgun-weddings-with-jayne-ann-krentz]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">4be1d6e4-0d99-4a1c-916e-4668997dca77</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2026 00:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/4be1d6e4-0d99-4a1c-916e-4668997dca77.mp3" length="89424874" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:33:09</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>8</itunes:season><itunes:episode>18</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>18</podcast:episode><podcast:season>8</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-4cbb6ce2-47b1-4d83-bc4e-41e02e5077ad.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S08.17: Setting New Year&apos;s Reading Resolutions</title><itunes:title>Setting New Year&apos;s Reading Resolutions</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>As it's the beginning of 2026, we're talking about how we think about our reading years. What kind of strategies does Jen use? How is Sarah attempting to control the chaos? Which books do we already have on our TBR piles for 2026, and how do we structure our reading year to make ourselves happy and prepare for the podcast? We're also talking about some books by romance novelists who are publishing outside the romance genre this year.</p><p>If you want to talk to more people about reading strategies this year, maybe you want to join our Patreon? You get an extra monthly episode from us and access to the incredible readers and brilliant people on the Fated Mates Discord! Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>.</p><p>Our next read along will be Ruby Dixon's <em>Ice Planet Barbarians</em> (you’re welcome). Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/4aBDQ1S" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/ice-planet-barbarians-ruby-dixon/1139042949" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble,</a> your <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780593546024" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">local indie</a>, <a href="https://www.awin1.com/cread.php?awinmid=25361&amp;awinaffid=1785000&amp;ued=https%3A%2F%2Flibro.fm%2Faudiobooks%2F9781541488625" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">libro.fm</a>, or with your monthly subscription to <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780593546024" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kindle Unlimited</a></p><h2>Notes</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Vaccinations are good, actually. In between recording this episode and when it aired, Caroline Kennedy’s daughter <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/contributors/tatiana-schlossberg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tatiana Schlossberg</a>, who <u><a href="https://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-weekend-essay/a-battle-with-my-blood" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wrote about her cancer diagnosis in the New Yorker</a></u>, has sadly died.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>It will shock no one to learn that Jen learned about immunizations from books. In her childhood, the books <em><u><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Brain" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Great Brain</a></u></em> by John Dennis Fitzgerald. We also recommend <em>Everything is Tuberculosis</em> by John Greene and <em>On Immunity</em> by Eula Biss.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Amazon is forcing <u><a href="https://authorsguild.org/news/statement-on-amazon-kindle-ask-this-book-ai-feature/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AI tools into the kindle books themselves,</a></u> and it’s all awful. Use your own brain, we don’t know what else to say.</li></ol><br/><h2>Books</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4qjPiEF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Everything is Tuberculosis</a></u> by John Green</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/45JhiZV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">On Immunity</a></u> by Eula Biss</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/3Ldc2XH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Paris Match</a></u> by Kate Clayborn</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4596XX7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Romance Revival</a></u> by Christina Lauren</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/49zl1KS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">She Fell Away</a></u> by Lenore Nash</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4qjJcUw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">As Far as She Knew</a></u> by Diana Awad</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/3LoDPEz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Duke</a></u> by Anna Cowan</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/49hP7DI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lady X</a></u> by Molly Fader</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/3LfVPRv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Merriam-Webster Collegiate Dictionary,</a></u> 12 Edition</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4jNoSsj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alphabet in Motion</a></u> by Kelli Anderson</li></ol><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Avon Books</strong>, publishers of Emma Alban's <em>Like in Love with You</em>, available in print, ebook and audio at <a href="https://amzn.to/45vVEbJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/like-in-love-with-you-emma-r-alban/1147279926?ean=9780063428775" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/like-in-love-with-you" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/like-in-love-with-you/id6744612120" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063428775" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Lumi Gummies</strong>, microdose gummies available nationwide. Use the code FATEDMATES to get 30% off your first order. <a href="lumigummies.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at LumiGummies.com</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Caroline Linden</strong>, author of <em>How to Get Away with Scandal</em>, available in print, ebook and audio at <a href="https://amzn.to/4qRWHe8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/how-to-get-away-with-scandal-caroline-linden/1148098422?ean=9798986258478" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/search?query=How+to+Get+Away+with+Scandal+%28Caroline+Linden%29&amp;ac=1&amp;acp=how+to+get+away+with+scandal&amp;ac.title=How+to+Get+Away+with+Scandal&amp;ac.author=Caroline+Linden&amp;acpos=b1&amp;fclanguages=en&amp;ssid=JFTNVmx63JVVlEfQEufoB&amp;sid=21d7424d-bdf8-4401-a5cb-1d4bf81dfa4d" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/how-to-get-away-with-scandal/id6751421901" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9798986258478" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Allison Bettes</strong>, author of <em>Red Flag Warning</em>, available in print, ebook and audio at <a href="https://amzn.to/3YDLIZQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a> or with <a href="https://amzn.to/3YDLIZQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li></ol><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2026/1/12/0817-setting-new-years-reading-resolutions </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As it's the beginning of 2026, we're talking about how we think about our reading years. What kind of strategies does Jen use? How is Sarah attempting to control the chaos? Which books do we already have on our TBR piles for 2026, and how do we structure our reading year to make ourselves happy and prepare for the podcast? We're also talking about some books by romance novelists who are publishing outside the romance genre this year.</p><p>If you want to talk to more people about reading strategies this year, maybe you want to join our Patreon? You get an extra monthly episode from us and access to the incredible readers and brilliant people on the Fated Mates Discord! Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>.</p><p>Our next read along will be Ruby Dixon's <em>Ice Planet Barbarians</em> (you’re welcome). Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/4aBDQ1S" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/ice-planet-barbarians-ruby-dixon/1139042949" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble,</a> your <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780593546024" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">local indie</a>, <a href="https://www.awin1.com/cread.php?awinmid=25361&amp;awinaffid=1785000&amp;ued=https%3A%2F%2Flibro.fm%2Faudiobooks%2F9781541488625" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">libro.fm</a>, or with your monthly subscription to <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780593546024" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kindle Unlimited</a></p><h2>Notes</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Vaccinations are good, actually. In between recording this episode and when it aired, Caroline Kennedy’s daughter <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/contributors/tatiana-schlossberg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tatiana Schlossberg</a>, who <u><a href="https://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-weekend-essay/a-battle-with-my-blood" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wrote about her cancer diagnosis in the New Yorker</a></u>, has sadly died.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>It will shock no one to learn that Jen learned about immunizations from books. In her childhood, the books <em><u><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Brain" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Great Brain</a></u></em> by John Dennis Fitzgerald. We also recommend <em>Everything is Tuberculosis</em> by John Greene and <em>On Immunity</em> by Eula Biss.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Amazon is forcing <u><a href="https://authorsguild.org/news/statement-on-amazon-kindle-ask-this-book-ai-feature/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AI tools into the kindle books themselves,</a></u> and it’s all awful. Use your own brain, we don’t know what else to say.</li></ol><br/><h2>Books</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4qjPiEF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Everything is Tuberculosis</a></u> by John Green</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/45JhiZV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">On Immunity</a></u> by Eula Biss</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/3Ldc2XH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Paris Match</a></u> by Kate Clayborn</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4596XX7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Romance Revival</a></u> by Christina Lauren</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/49zl1KS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">She Fell Away</a></u> by Lenore Nash</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4qjJcUw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">As Far as She Knew</a></u> by Diana Awad</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/3LoDPEz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Duke</a></u> by Anna Cowan</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/49hP7DI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lady X</a></u> by Molly Fader</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/3LfVPRv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Merriam-Webster Collegiate Dictionary,</a></u> 12 Edition</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4jNoSsj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alphabet in Motion</a></u> by Kelli Anderson</li></ol><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Avon Books</strong>, publishers of Emma Alban's <em>Like in Love with You</em>, available in print, ebook and audio at <a href="https://amzn.to/45vVEbJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/like-in-love-with-you-emma-r-alban/1147279926?ean=9780063428775" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/like-in-love-with-you" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/like-in-love-with-you/id6744612120" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063428775" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Lumi Gummies</strong>, microdose gummies available nationwide. Use the code FATEDMATES to get 30% off your first order. <a href="lumigummies.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at LumiGummies.com</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Caroline Linden</strong>, author of <em>How to Get Away with Scandal</em>, available in print, ebook and audio at <a href="https://amzn.to/4qRWHe8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/how-to-get-away-with-scandal-caroline-linden/1148098422?ean=9798986258478" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/search?query=How+to+Get+Away+with+Scandal+%28Caroline+Linden%29&amp;ac=1&amp;acp=how+to+get+away+with+scandal&amp;ac.title=How+to+Get+Away+with+Scandal&amp;ac.author=Caroline+Linden&amp;acpos=b1&amp;fclanguages=en&amp;ssid=JFTNVmx63JVVlEfQEufoB&amp;sid=21d7424d-bdf8-4401-a5cb-1d4bf81dfa4d" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/how-to-get-away-with-scandal/id6751421901" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9798986258478" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Allison Bettes</strong>, author of <em>Red Flag Warning</em>, available in print, ebook and audio at <a href="https://amzn.to/3YDLIZQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a> or with <a href="https://amzn.to/3YDLIZQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li></ol><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2026/1/12/0817-setting-new-years-reading-resolutions </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2026/1/12/0817-setting-new-years-reading-resolutions]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">184bf0d1-a01d-4108-9bf8-4f3aa2752e7d</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2026 23:15:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/184bf0d1-a01d-4108-9bf8-4f3aa2752e7d.mp3" length="85569200" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:29:08</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>8</itunes:season><itunes:episode>17</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>17</podcast:episode><podcast:season>8</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-961fa50a-2fe8-49df-8df1-c7f1d7771a03.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>BONUS: Fated Mates All Stars talk Heated Rivalry</title><itunes:title>BONUS: Fated Mates All Stars talk Heated Rivalry</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Sarah's still catching up, but Jen, <a href="https://adrianaherreraromance.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adriana Herrera</a>, and <a href="https://joannashupe.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joanna Shupe</a> have seen it and they have <a href="https://youtu.be/hwikyrRqI7M" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a lot to say</a>.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah's still catching up, but Jen, <a href="https://adrianaherreraromance.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adriana Herrera</a>, and <a href="https://joannashupe.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joanna Shupe</a> have seen it and they have <a href="https://youtu.be/hwikyrRqI7M" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a lot to say</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwikyrRqI7M]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">d12d7452-cd54-432b-8954-74a5648e2b1d</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2026 15:22:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/d12d7452-cd54-432b-8954-74a5648e2b1d.mp3" length="62632854" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:05:15</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>8</itunes:season><itunes:episode>17</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>17</podcast:episode><podcast:season>8</podcast:season><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="video/youtube" title="A Romance Break Down of Heated Rivalry"><podcast:source uri="https://youtu.be/hwikyrRqI7M"/></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>S08.16: Winter 2026 Preview</title><itunes:title>Winter 2026 Preview</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Your discoverabilibuddies are back! It's a new year which means we're dropping our Winter 2026 reads episode, in which we talk about the million trillion 2026 romance books coming out in January, February and March (ok, not a million trillion, but enough that Eric came out of his studio this morning with a thousand-yard stare!). As a reminder, we have not necessarily read all these books, but they are on our TBRs and should be on yours!</p><p>If you want more recommendations and more people with whom you can discuss 2026 romance novels, maybe you want to join our Patreon? You get an extra monthly episode from us and access to the incredible readers and brilliant people on the Fated Mates Discord! Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>.</p><p>Our next read along will be Ruby Dixon's <em>Ice Planet Barbarians </em>(you’re welcome). Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/4aBDQ1S" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/ice-planet-barbarians-ruby-dixon/1139042949" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780593546024" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local indie</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780593546024" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</p><h2>January 2026 New Releases</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4srZo7N" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Champagne Taste on a Bad Boy Budget</a></u> by Zuri Day</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/49m0k4P" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Drive me Crazy</a></u> by Lizzy Dent</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/3Z2SGYc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Silver &amp; Blood</a></u> by Jessie Mihalik</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/49tbHIn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Scandal Changes Everything</a></u> by Josie Johns</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4jv77Om" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dom-Com</a></u> by Adriana Anders</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/45G9acy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Only on Gameday</a></u> by Kristen Callihan</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/45j7HsP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Janae Sanders’ Second Time Around</a></u> by LaQuette</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4aHDDKR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Lust Crusade</a></u> by Jo Segura</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/49ja7Zq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Ex Dilemma</a></u> by Elle Wright</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4snl2tX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wish I May</a></u> by Hannah Murray</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/3N4zKWy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Almost One Night Stand</a></u> by AJ Pine</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4q7o97x" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Re-Do List</a></u> by Denise Williams</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4ssBhpq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Definitely Maybe Not a Detective</a></u> by Sarah Fox</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4aLBCxg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chasing the Ring</a></u> by Lauren Rowe</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4ssOdM5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Last First Kiss</a></u> by Julian Winters</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4pvYaWp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Playing for Keeps</a></u> by Alexandria Bellefleur</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/49LwPtF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Falling for the Fake Lumberjack</a></u> by Sara Ney</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/49pNL8Q" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Into the Midnight Wood</a></u> by Alexandra McCollum</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4ptdGCt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">We Who Have No Gods</a></u> by Liza Anderson</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4qFIbpQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wild Russian Storm</a></u> by Odette Stone</li></ol><br/><h2>February 2026 New Releases</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/3Lx5BP5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Falling for the Rabbi</a></u> by Jennifer Wilck</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/3Nc5c55" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Skate it Till You Make It</a></u> by Rufaro Faith Mazarura</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4aFTrh7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Subatomic Love</a></u> by Shannon Kirk</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/49mW3xV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Over and Over </a></u>by Becky Hunter</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4qdweaY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Whispers and Wildfire</a></u> by Claire Kingsley</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/3N8kcRw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Lovers</a></u> by Kristen Cast</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/45t4vdW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">One and Only</a></u> by Maurene Goo</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4sswe8A" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Only Friends </a></u>by Lydia San Andres</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4sz6tDJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Regency Switch</a></u> by Helen Gaskell</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/3Lg7LCI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">It’s All in Your Head</a></u> by Sabina Nordqvist</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/49HBHks" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Books &amp; Bewitchment</a></u> by Isla Jewell</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/45qBM9G" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Little Buzzed</a></u> by Alys Murray</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/45qBNKM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">In Her Spotlight</a></u> by Amy Spalding</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/49pMfUc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Get over it, April Evans</a></u> by Ashley Herring Blake</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4aLCqlM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Personal Bodyguard</a></u> by Danielle Haas</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4jrtcgw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Free Falling</a></u> by Jill Shalvis</li></ol><br/><h2>March 2026 New Releases</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/45qBUWI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rears &amp; Vices</a></u> by EM Caro</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/3LykkJF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stolen by Her Viking Enemy</a></u> by Roxy Harper</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4qDcDRl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hold Me Like a Grudge</a></u> by Celine Ong</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/496SPQq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sparring Partners</a></u> by Erin Rose</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/498mw3z" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fallen Hero</a></u> by Riley Edwards</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/3MYDCbF" rel="noopener noreferrer"...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your discoverabilibuddies are back! It's a new year which means we're dropping our Winter 2026 reads episode, in which we talk about the million trillion 2026 romance books coming out in January, February and March (ok, not a million trillion, but enough that Eric came out of his studio this morning with a thousand-yard stare!). As a reminder, we have not necessarily read all these books, but they are on our TBRs and should be on yours!</p><p>If you want more recommendations and more people with whom you can discuss 2026 romance novels, maybe you want to join our Patreon? You get an extra monthly episode from us and access to the incredible readers and brilliant people on the Fated Mates Discord! Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>.</p><p>Our next read along will be Ruby Dixon's <em>Ice Planet Barbarians </em>(you’re welcome). Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/4aBDQ1S" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/ice-planet-barbarians-ruby-dixon/1139042949" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780593546024" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local indie</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780593546024" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</p><h2>January 2026 New Releases</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4srZo7N" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Champagne Taste on a Bad Boy Budget</a></u> by Zuri Day</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/49m0k4P" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Drive me Crazy</a></u> by Lizzy Dent</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/3Z2SGYc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Silver &amp; Blood</a></u> by Jessie Mihalik</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/49tbHIn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Scandal Changes Everything</a></u> by Josie Johns</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4jv77Om" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dom-Com</a></u> by Adriana Anders</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/45G9acy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Only on Gameday</a></u> by Kristen Callihan</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/45j7HsP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Janae Sanders’ Second Time Around</a></u> by LaQuette</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4aHDDKR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Lust Crusade</a></u> by Jo Segura</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/49ja7Zq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Ex Dilemma</a></u> by Elle Wright</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4snl2tX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wish I May</a></u> by Hannah Murray</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/3N4zKWy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Almost One Night Stand</a></u> by AJ Pine</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4q7o97x" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Re-Do List</a></u> by Denise Williams</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4ssBhpq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Definitely Maybe Not a Detective</a></u> by Sarah Fox</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4aLBCxg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chasing the Ring</a></u> by Lauren Rowe</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4ssOdM5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Last First Kiss</a></u> by Julian Winters</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4pvYaWp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Playing for Keeps</a></u> by Alexandria Bellefleur</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/49LwPtF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Falling for the Fake Lumberjack</a></u> by Sara Ney</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/49pNL8Q" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Into the Midnight Wood</a></u> by Alexandra McCollum</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4ptdGCt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">We Who Have No Gods</a></u> by Liza Anderson</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4qFIbpQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wild Russian Storm</a></u> by Odette Stone</li></ol><br/><h2>February 2026 New Releases</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/3Lx5BP5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Falling for the Rabbi</a></u> by Jennifer Wilck</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/3Nc5c55" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Skate it Till You Make It</a></u> by Rufaro Faith Mazarura</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4aFTrh7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Subatomic Love</a></u> by Shannon Kirk</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/49mW3xV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Over and Over </a></u>by Becky Hunter</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4qdweaY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Whispers and Wildfire</a></u> by Claire Kingsley</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/3N8kcRw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Lovers</a></u> by Kristen Cast</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/45t4vdW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">One and Only</a></u> by Maurene Goo</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4sswe8A" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Only Friends </a></u>by Lydia San Andres</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4sz6tDJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Regency Switch</a></u> by Helen Gaskell</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/3Lg7LCI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">It’s All in Your Head</a></u> by Sabina Nordqvist</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/49HBHks" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Books &amp; Bewitchment</a></u> by Isla Jewell</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/45qBM9G" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Little Buzzed</a></u> by Alys Murray</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/45qBNKM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">In Her Spotlight</a></u> by Amy Spalding</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/49pMfUc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Get over it, April Evans</a></u> by Ashley Herring Blake</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4aLCqlM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Personal Bodyguard</a></u> by Danielle Haas</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4jrtcgw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Free Falling</a></u> by Jill Shalvis</li></ol><br/><h2>March 2026 New Releases</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/45qBUWI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rears &amp; Vices</a></u> by EM Caro</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/3LykkJF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stolen by Her Viking Enemy</a></u> by Roxy Harper</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4qDcDRl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hold Me Like a Grudge</a></u> by Celine Ong</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/496SPQq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sparring Partners</a></u> by Erin Rose</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/498mw3z" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fallen Hero</a></u> by Riley Edwards</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/3MYDCbF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Starter Ex</a></u> by Mia Sosa</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/3YUHaOG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Change of Pace</a></u> by JA Stevens</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/49GaOgL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Lady for All Seasons</a></u> by TJ Alexander</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/496T26a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Casually Yours</a></u> by Vivian Jia Lac</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/3YXUemp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">In My Tudor Era</a></u> by Kate Bromley</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4po14ME" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Second Chance Duet</a></u> by Ana Holguin</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4pnYoyM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">It Seemed Like a Good Idea</a></u> by Lauren Blakely</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/3N5GWBI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Thirty Love</a></u> by Tom Vellner</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4ssCHjK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Convenient Wife Conditions</a></u> by Rebecca Hunter</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4sq4Lo3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Anderson in Bloom </a></u>by Jennifer Dugan</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4jsh7HZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Things That Break Us</a></u> by Michelle Heard</li></ol><br/><h2><strong>Sponsors</strong></h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>The Steamy Bookworms Box</strong>, a book box, featuring dark and monster romances with special edition covers, original art, stickers and more. <a href="https://www.steamybookworms.com/?srsltid=AfmBOoqLvwPF5AI0qY5v-mPl85TYyKjwYi-FnGwJwM-rJI7hWW5ka2gZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at SteamyBookworms.com</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Lucy Morris</strong>, author of <em>Reclaiming His Viking Queen</em>, available in print, ebook and audio at <a href="https://amzn.to/4aMQNX1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/reclaiming-his-viking-queen-lucy-morris/1147138285?ean=9781335831675" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/ie/en/ebook/reclaiming-his-viking-queen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/au/book/reclaiming-his-viking-queen/id6753186938" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781335831675" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>LYX Books</strong>, publishers of Selina Mae's <em><u><a href="https://amzn.to/3LEsMa7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lessons in Faking</a></u></em>, available in print, ebook and audio at <u><a href="https://amzn.to/3LEsMa7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a></u>, <u><a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/lessons-in-faking-selina-mae/1146489727" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a></u>, <u><a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/lessons-in-faking-3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a></u>, <u><a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/lessons-in-faking/id6745190959" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a></u> or <u><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9798893310696" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a></u>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Eve Silver</strong>, author of <em>Darkest at Dusk</em>, available in print, ebook and audio at <u><a href="https://amzn.to/3LB9PFr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a></u>, or <u><a href="https://amzn.to/3LB9PFr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a></u>.</li></ol><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2026/1/5/0816-2026-winter-preview </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2026/1/5/0816-2026-winter-preview]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">57287199-01eb-4fa3-a619-1d360e3ae0c4</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2026 07:30:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/57287199-01eb-4fa3-a619-1d360e3ae0c4.mp3" length="115777200" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>02:00:36</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>8</itunes:season><itunes:episode>16</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>16</podcast:episode><podcast:season>8</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-40b91a3e-84f5-4f3d-9823-b73feca66031.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S08.15: Jen &amp; Sarah&apos;s New Year&apos;s Milkin&apos; Eve!</title><itunes:title>Jen &amp; Sarah&apos;s New Year&apos;s Milkin&apos; Eve!</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Another year, another chaotic New Year's episode, with one of our favorites, the Lauren half of Christina Lauren! Y'all. When we say <em>headphones in</em>, we mean <em>HEADPHONES IN. </em>This is not for your kids, or your mechanic, or Kate. Today, we're getting into the kink Sarah has been dancing around at Fated Mates Lives for years...the one Sandra Brown and Bertrice Small installed, and Lisa Kleypas and Christina Lauren continued in a grand, noble tradition. Strap in, friends, we're talking lactation kink! You're welcome!</p><p>Happy New Year, pervs. We love you.</p><p>If you want other people to discuss brand new romance authors with, maybe you want to join our Patreon? You get an extra monthly episode from us and access to the incredible readers and brilliant people on the Fated Mates Discord! Support us and learn more at <u><a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a></u>.</p><p>Our next read along will be Ruby Dixon's <em>Ice Planet Barbarians </em>(you’re welcome). Get it at <u><a href="https://amzn.to/4aBDQ1S" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a></u>, <u><a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/ice-planet-barbarians-ruby-dixon/1139042949" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a></u>, <u><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780593546024" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local indie</a></u>, or <u><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780593546024" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a></u>.</p><h2>Books</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4pesYuz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sunny Chandler’s Return</a></u> by Sandra Brown</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/3LrP5jn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Another Dawn</a></u> by Sandra Brown</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/3YfLZSv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">All the Sweet Tomorrows</a></u> by Bertrice Small</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4q4tAEq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dreaming of You</a></u> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/44PkbrR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fresh Cream</a></u> by X Callisto</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4sqp98G" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Milky View</a></u> by Luna Stark</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/49yGRz7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heaven, Texas</a></u> by Susan Elizabeth Phillips</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4pu346s" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Milking the Rabbi</a></u> by Violet Dare</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/44MX4OG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bigger</a></u> by Casey Cane</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/1620047" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Splash of Cream at the Alabaster Cafe</a></u> by Astra Rose</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4jlp168" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Morning Glory Milking Farm</a></u> by CM Nascosta</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/44MZM6O" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Wild One</a></u> by Daisy Jane</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/49fSSbh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Father Knows Best</a></u> by Daisy Jane</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/49i7YgD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mountain Daddy’s Milk &amp; Honey</a></u> by Elena Dawne</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/3Li84wF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Daisy Unchained</a></u> by Elena Dawne</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4jkPz7z" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">PS. You’re Intolerable</a></u> by Julia Wolf</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4qsYFRR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Beautiful Beloved</a></u> by Christina Lauren</li></ol><br/><h2>Notes</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Lauren Billings of <u><a href="https://christinalaurenbooks.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Christina Lauren</a></u> as our special guest this New Year’s Eve, but frankly Christina has way too much sense for tonight’s nonsense. There’s a Twilight fic called <u><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/TwilightFanfic/comments/1f5d1bk/looking_for_old_au_fic_that_was_pwp_bellaedward/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vulturi Dairy. </a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>It’s lactation kink, not adult breastfeeding. The AO3 tag is “ABF” just in case you need to know. But it’s been around for a long time, including in <u><a href="https://bsky.app/profile/katlaronde.bsky.social/post/3mak7r3ggqk2t" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">classics like Dracula.</a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>We are embarrassed not by this episode, but by the fact that we didn’t do any <u><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mpreg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MPreg </a></u>recommendations.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The book Lo mentioned that made her say “Honey are you okay?” is <em><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Money-Lactation-Erotica-Amber-Sunwell-ebook/dp/B00W6PXPFO?th=1&amp;psc=1&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.7bLOJAvEeTXjrOxUuf2xTeW6ftYvLMCWmI_6Jmgtvuzl_xjPA16E5qrGLyPsO9OElN5ZuBcDhUpss7YEOHo09sBq0wUyQS_U9Teg1jl_pGVdoWU3VYAmKx9I69bY2wwvlfnHlKVxvD8US8qx1oKDNDymNEtxZCyRFq5XAfEQWyzf_3Cc3xP27CIWhaSkKcA99SwQcV78p7QmDK6aOT9faQQNYQLBS_y-ht5JMj8NYT4.Gs8M_-j7SR5IuuV3IPZvwzntgI7rfkmAD6N8LwkrnIg&amp;dib_tag=AUTHOR&amp;linkCode=sl1&amp;tag=fatedmates-20&amp;linkId=6c0384693fe6c957b706374bbf6238c4&amp;language=en_US&amp;ref_=as_li_ss_tl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Milk for Money</a></em><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Money-Lactation-Erotica-Amber-Sunwell-ebook/dp/B00W6PXPFO?th=1&amp;psc=1&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.7bLOJAvEeTXjrOxUuf2xTeW6ftYvLMCWmI_6Jmgtvuzl_xjPA16E5qrGLyPsO9OElN5ZuBcDhUpss7YEOHo09sBq0wUyQS_U9Teg1jl_pGVdoWU3VYAmKx9I69bY2wwvlfnHlKVxvD8US8qx1oKDNDymNEtxZCyRFq5XAfEQWyzf_3Cc3xP27CIWhaSkKcA99SwQcV78p7QmDK6aOT9faQQNYQLBS_y-ht5JMj8NYT4.Gs8M_-j7SR5IuuV3IPZvwzntgI7rfkmAD6N8LwkrnIg&amp;dib_tag=AUTHOR&amp;linkCode=sl1&amp;tag=fatedmates-20&amp;linkId=6c0384693fe6c957b706374bbf6238c4&amp;language=en_US&amp;ref_=as_li_ss_tl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> by Amber Sunwell</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Read up on <u><a href="https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/infant-and-toddler-health/expert-answers/induced-lactation/faq-20058403" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">induced lactation</a></u>, which according to the Mayo Clinic “might” be possible.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>You can find out more about the <u><a href="https://alexariley.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alexa Riley AR Taboo pen name at their website</a></u>. Be sure to check your content warnings before diving in over there.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://deadline.com/2025/12/in-a-holidaze-casts-maddie-ziegler-rob-lowe-graham-phillips-1236652534/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rob Lowe!</a></u></li></ol><br/><h2><strong>Sponsors</strong></h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Michelle Dayton</strong>, author of <em>Every Other New Year's Eve</em>, available in print and ebook at <u><a href="https://amzn.to/49ywviG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a></u>, <u><a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/every-other-new-years-eve-michelle-dayton/1148089590?ean=2940184709468" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a></u>, <u><a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/every-other-new-year-s-eve?sId=d82da586-88d8-4fa1-950d-2379aff97778&amp;ssId=i8zzne5W3T3o39jRXXxjD&amp;cPos=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a></u>, or <u><a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/every-other-new-years-eve/id6751351556" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a></u>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Avon Books, </strong>publishers of Stacia Clark's <em>We Who Will Die</em>, available for preorder in print, ebook, audio, or with <a href="https://amzn.to/3MSurJP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>. Get it at <u><a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/we-who-will-die-stacia-stark/1146524251?ean=9780063436718" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a></u>, <u><a...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another year, another chaotic New Year's episode, with one of our favorites, the Lauren half of Christina Lauren! Y'all. When we say <em>headphones in</em>, we mean <em>HEADPHONES IN. </em>This is not for your kids, or your mechanic, or Kate. Today, we're getting into the kink Sarah has been dancing around at Fated Mates Lives for years...the one Sandra Brown and Bertrice Small installed, and Lisa Kleypas and Christina Lauren continued in a grand, noble tradition. Strap in, friends, we're talking lactation kink! You're welcome!</p><p>Happy New Year, pervs. We love you.</p><p>If you want other people to discuss brand new romance authors with, maybe you want to join our Patreon? You get an extra monthly episode from us and access to the incredible readers and brilliant people on the Fated Mates Discord! Support us and learn more at <u><a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a></u>.</p><p>Our next read along will be Ruby Dixon's <em>Ice Planet Barbarians </em>(you’re welcome). Get it at <u><a href="https://amzn.to/4aBDQ1S" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a></u>, <u><a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/ice-planet-barbarians-ruby-dixon/1139042949" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a></u>, <u><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780593546024" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local indie</a></u>, or <u><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780593546024" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a></u>.</p><h2>Books</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4pesYuz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sunny Chandler’s Return</a></u> by Sandra Brown</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/3LrP5jn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Another Dawn</a></u> by Sandra Brown</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/3YfLZSv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">All the Sweet Tomorrows</a></u> by Bertrice Small</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4q4tAEq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dreaming of You</a></u> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/44PkbrR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fresh Cream</a></u> by X Callisto</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4sqp98G" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Milky View</a></u> by Luna Stark</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/49yGRz7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heaven, Texas</a></u> by Susan Elizabeth Phillips</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4pu346s" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Milking the Rabbi</a></u> by Violet Dare</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/44MX4OG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bigger</a></u> by Casey Cane</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/1620047" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Splash of Cream at the Alabaster Cafe</a></u> by Astra Rose</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4jlp168" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Morning Glory Milking Farm</a></u> by CM Nascosta</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/44MZM6O" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Wild One</a></u> by Daisy Jane</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/49fSSbh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Father Knows Best</a></u> by Daisy Jane</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/49i7YgD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mountain Daddy’s Milk &amp; Honey</a></u> by Elena Dawne</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/3Li84wF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Daisy Unchained</a></u> by Elena Dawne</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4jkPz7z" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">PS. You’re Intolerable</a></u> by Julia Wolf</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://amzn.to/4qsYFRR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Beautiful Beloved</a></u> by Christina Lauren</li></ol><br/><h2>Notes</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Lauren Billings of <u><a href="https://christinalaurenbooks.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Christina Lauren</a></u> as our special guest this New Year’s Eve, but frankly Christina has way too much sense for tonight’s nonsense. There’s a Twilight fic called <u><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/TwilightFanfic/comments/1f5d1bk/looking_for_old_au_fic_that_was_pwp_bellaedward/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vulturi Dairy. </a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>It’s lactation kink, not adult breastfeeding. The AO3 tag is “ABF” just in case you need to know. But it’s been around for a long time, including in <u><a href="https://bsky.app/profile/katlaronde.bsky.social/post/3mak7r3ggqk2t" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">classics like Dracula.</a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>We are embarrassed not by this episode, but by the fact that we didn’t do any <u><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mpreg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MPreg </a></u>recommendations.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The book Lo mentioned that made her say “Honey are you okay?” is <em><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Money-Lactation-Erotica-Amber-Sunwell-ebook/dp/B00W6PXPFO?th=1&amp;psc=1&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.7bLOJAvEeTXjrOxUuf2xTeW6ftYvLMCWmI_6Jmgtvuzl_xjPA16E5qrGLyPsO9OElN5ZuBcDhUpss7YEOHo09sBq0wUyQS_U9Teg1jl_pGVdoWU3VYAmKx9I69bY2wwvlfnHlKVxvD8US8qx1oKDNDymNEtxZCyRFq5XAfEQWyzf_3Cc3xP27CIWhaSkKcA99SwQcV78p7QmDK6aOT9faQQNYQLBS_y-ht5JMj8NYT4.Gs8M_-j7SR5IuuV3IPZvwzntgI7rfkmAD6N8LwkrnIg&amp;dib_tag=AUTHOR&amp;linkCode=sl1&amp;tag=fatedmates-20&amp;linkId=6c0384693fe6c957b706374bbf6238c4&amp;language=en_US&amp;ref_=as_li_ss_tl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Milk for Money</a></em><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Money-Lactation-Erotica-Amber-Sunwell-ebook/dp/B00W6PXPFO?th=1&amp;psc=1&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.7bLOJAvEeTXjrOxUuf2xTeW6ftYvLMCWmI_6Jmgtvuzl_xjPA16E5qrGLyPsO9OElN5ZuBcDhUpss7YEOHo09sBq0wUyQS_U9Teg1jl_pGVdoWU3VYAmKx9I69bY2wwvlfnHlKVxvD8US8qx1oKDNDymNEtxZCyRFq5XAfEQWyzf_3Cc3xP27CIWhaSkKcA99SwQcV78p7QmDK6aOT9faQQNYQLBS_y-ht5JMj8NYT4.Gs8M_-j7SR5IuuV3IPZvwzntgI7rfkmAD6N8LwkrnIg&amp;dib_tag=AUTHOR&amp;linkCode=sl1&amp;tag=fatedmates-20&amp;linkId=6c0384693fe6c957b706374bbf6238c4&amp;language=en_US&amp;ref_=as_li_ss_tl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> by Amber Sunwell</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Read up on <u><a href="https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/infant-and-toddler-health/expert-answers/induced-lactation/faq-20058403" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">induced lactation</a></u>, which according to the Mayo Clinic “might” be possible.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>You can find out more about the <u><a href="https://alexariley.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alexa Riley AR Taboo pen name at their website</a></u>. Be sure to check your content warnings before diving in over there.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://deadline.com/2025/12/in-a-holidaze-casts-maddie-ziegler-rob-lowe-graham-phillips-1236652534/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rob Lowe!</a></u></li></ol><br/><h2><strong>Sponsors</strong></h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Michelle Dayton</strong>, author of <em>Every Other New Year's Eve</em>, available in print and ebook at <u><a href="https://amzn.to/49ywviG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a></u>, <u><a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/every-other-new-years-eve-michelle-dayton/1148089590?ean=2940184709468" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a></u>, <u><a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/every-other-new-year-s-eve?sId=d82da586-88d8-4fa1-950d-2379aff97778&amp;ssId=i8zzne5W3T3o39jRXXxjD&amp;cPos=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a></u>, or <u><a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/every-other-new-years-eve/id6751351556" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a></u>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Avon Books, </strong>publishers of Stacia Clark's <em>We Who Will Die</em>, available for preorder in print, ebook, audio, or with <a href="https://amzn.to/3MSurJP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>. Get it at <u><a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/we-who-will-die-stacia-stark/1146524251?ean=9780063436718" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a></u>, <u><a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/we-who-will-die-1?sId=59e7e973-8b23-4dee-bd86-957da98a2935&amp;ssId=TliK4UUuzQqBbtJZWWt4T&amp;cPos=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a></u>, <u><a href="https://books.apple.com/nz/book/we-who-will-die/id6739403729" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a></u> or <u><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063436718" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a></u>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>831 Stories</strong>, publisher of fun, sexy romance novellas available wherever you get your books, or delivered to your door via <em>The Ones</em> membership box. Get more information at <u><a href="http://831stories.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">831stories.com</a></u> where you can use code FATEDMATES to get 10% off your first order on eligible products.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>The Steamy Bookworms Box</strong>, a book box, featuring dark and monster romances with special edition covers, original art, stickers and more. <a href="https://www.steamybookworms.com/?srsltid=AfmBOoqLvwPF5AI0qY5v-mPl85TYyKjwYi-FnGwJwM-rJI7hWW5ka2gZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at SteamyBookworms.com</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Lumi Gummies</strong>, microdose gummies delivered right to your door. Go to <u><a href="https://lumigummies.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lumigummies.com</a></u> and use code FATEDMATES for 30% off your order.</li></ol><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/12/30/s0815-its-new-years-milkin-eve </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/12/30/s0815-its-new-years-milkin-eve]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">bbe7d301-ec59-4db3-b1b6-2000416b5fea</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2025 14:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/bbe7d301-ec59-4db3-b1b6-2000416b5fea.mp3" length="95153004" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:39:07</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>8</itunes:season><itunes:episode>15</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>15</podcast:episode><podcast:season>8</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-9e4ad29f-09df-43ba-9519-3c0a7b452b89.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S08.14: Terrific 2025 Romance Debuts</title><itunes:title>Terrific 2025 Romance Debuts</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It's that time of year, when we highlight some of our favorite new voices in romance! This week, we're talking about eight new writers who are making us excited about what's to come in historical, contemporary, cozy fantasy and more. Here's to reading them all for years to come!</p><p>From horse girls to divorcees, hair stylists to magical tea shop owners, basketball coaches to jewel thieves, there's something in here for everyone. It's going to be great for you!</p><p>Don't forget--you can buy the <a href="https://pocketbooksshop.com/shop/fated-mates-box" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates Best of 2025 Book Pack</a> from our friends at <a href="https://pocketbooksshop.com/shop/fated-mates-box" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pocket Books Shop in Lancaster, PA</a>, and get eight of the books on the list! <em>Scoundrel Take Me Away</em> and <em>Lazarus, Home from War</em> (independently published) are not in the box. As always, you can add additional romances, or one of Sarah's books to your box.</p><p>If you want other people to discuss brand new romance authors with, maybe you want to join our Patreon? You get an extra monthly episode from us and access to the incredible readers and brilliant people on the Fated Mates Discord! Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>. You can also ask for it as a gift, or give it as one at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/gift" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/gift</a>.</p><p>Our next read along will be Ruby Dixon's <em>Ice Planet Barbarians </em>(you’re welcome). Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/4aBDQ1S" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/ice-planet-barbarians-ruby-dixon/1139042949" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780593546024" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local indie</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780593546024" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</p><h2>The Books</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://amzn.to/4s3JXTe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Best Worst Thing</a> by Lauren Okie</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://amzn.to/4pGIPmQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Once Upon a Time in Dollywood</a> by Ashley Jordan</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://amzn.to/4rXhs9F" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cosmic Love at the Multiverse Hair Salon</a> by Annie Mare</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://amzn.to/49iJ0On" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hopelessly Teavoted</a> by Audrey Goldberg Ruoff</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://amzn.to/48WkUZp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Savannah Royals</a> by Lindsay Barrett</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://amzn.to/4qkq0Ww" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Play You For It </a>by Samantha Saldivar</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://amzn.to/3XWJWT7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Trouble with Anna</a> by Rachel Griffiths</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://amzn.to/4q3u3Gy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Celebrity Crush</a> by Christy Swift</li></ol><br/><h2>Notes</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Check out our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/12/9/2024-debuts" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Debuts of 2024 episode here</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>It’s not frod (Friend + rod), it’s <a href="https://www.out.com/sex/frotting-frottage-meanings-differences-definitions#rebelltitem4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">frotting</a>. Here’s <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the wikipedia page.</a> Sarah apologizes for not knowing the proper spelling.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://bsky.app/profile/readingtheend.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jenny Hamilton</a> wrote a terrific piece about <a href="https://readingtheend.com/2025/12/10/anatomy-of-a-sex-scene-heated-rivalry-edition/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sex in Heated Rivalry</a> in this recurring feature on her blog called Anatomy of sex scene.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The non-romance time travel book Jen mentioned was <a href="https://amzn.to/4506mqo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Version Control by Dexter Palmer</a>.</li></ol><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Atria Books</strong>, publishers of Ellis Hunter's <em>Blood Bound</em>, available for preorder in print, ebook, and audio at <a href="https://amzn.to/49e6jK3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/blood-bound-ellis-hunter/1147556539?ean=9781668233139" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/blood-bound-87?sId=43544b8d-daa4-4528-a4b8-470f42ab4bec&amp;ssId=g66itLl-I_xJxUIVFBE-e&amp;cPos=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/blood-bound/id6747035888" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781668233139" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>The Scandals &amp; Swoons Festival</strong>, a new historical romance signing event in Orlando, Florida on January 18, 2026, learn more at <a href="https://www.swoonsfest.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">swoonsfest.com</a>.<strong> </strong></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Mariah Scarpellini</strong>, author of<strong> </strong><em>The Titan's Rose</em>, the first book in the Olympian’s Curse Saga. <a href="https://linktr.ee/mariahscarpellini1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more about the book and help Mariah build a world before her launch</a>.</li></ol><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/S2025/12/15/0814-2025-romance-debuts </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's that time of year, when we highlight some of our favorite new voices in romance! This week, we're talking about eight new writers who are making us excited about what's to come in historical, contemporary, cozy fantasy and more. Here's to reading them all for years to come!</p><p>From horse girls to divorcees, hair stylists to magical tea shop owners, basketball coaches to jewel thieves, there's something in here for everyone. It's going to be great for you!</p><p>Don't forget--you can buy the <a href="https://pocketbooksshop.com/shop/fated-mates-box" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates Best of 2025 Book Pack</a> from our friends at <a href="https://pocketbooksshop.com/shop/fated-mates-box" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pocket Books Shop in Lancaster, PA</a>, and get eight of the books on the list! <em>Scoundrel Take Me Away</em> and <em>Lazarus, Home from War</em> (independently published) are not in the box. As always, you can add additional romances, or one of Sarah's books to your box.</p><p>If you want other people to discuss brand new romance authors with, maybe you want to join our Patreon? You get an extra monthly episode from us and access to the incredible readers and brilliant people on the Fated Mates Discord! Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>. You can also ask for it as a gift, or give it as one at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/gift" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/gift</a>.</p><p>Our next read along will be Ruby Dixon's <em>Ice Planet Barbarians </em>(you’re welcome). Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/4aBDQ1S" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/ice-planet-barbarians-ruby-dixon/1139042949" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780593546024" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local indie</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780593546024" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</p><h2>The Books</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://amzn.to/4s3JXTe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Best Worst Thing</a> by Lauren Okie</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://amzn.to/4pGIPmQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Once Upon a Time in Dollywood</a> by Ashley Jordan</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://amzn.to/4rXhs9F" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cosmic Love at the Multiverse Hair Salon</a> by Annie Mare</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://amzn.to/49iJ0On" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hopelessly Teavoted</a> by Audrey Goldberg Ruoff</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://amzn.to/48WkUZp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Savannah Royals</a> by Lindsay Barrett</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://amzn.to/4qkq0Ww" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Play You For It </a>by Samantha Saldivar</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://amzn.to/3XWJWT7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Trouble with Anna</a> by Rachel Griffiths</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://amzn.to/4q3u3Gy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Celebrity Crush</a> by Christy Swift</li></ol><br/><h2>Notes</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Check out our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/12/9/2024-debuts" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Debuts of 2024 episode here</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>It’s not frod (Friend + rod), it’s <a href="https://www.out.com/sex/frotting-frottage-meanings-differences-definitions#rebelltitem4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">frotting</a>. Here’s <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the wikipedia page.</a> Sarah apologizes for not knowing the proper spelling.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://bsky.app/profile/readingtheend.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jenny Hamilton</a> wrote a terrific piece about <a href="https://readingtheend.com/2025/12/10/anatomy-of-a-sex-scene-heated-rivalry-edition/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sex in Heated Rivalry</a> in this recurring feature on her blog called Anatomy of sex scene.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The non-romance time travel book Jen mentioned was <a href="https://amzn.to/4506mqo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Version Control by Dexter Palmer</a>.</li></ol><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Atria Books</strong>, publishers of Ellis Hunter's <em>Blood Bound</em>, available for preorder in print, ebook, and audio at <a href="https://amzn.to/49e6jK3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/blood-bound-ellis-hunter/1147556539?ean=9781668233139" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/blood-bound-87?sId=43544b8d-daa4-4528-a4b8-470f42ab4bec&amp;ssId=g66itLl-I_xJxUIVFBE-e&amp;cPos=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/blood-bound/id6747035888" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781668233139" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>The Scandals &amp; Swoons Festival</strong>, a new historical romance signing event in Orlando, Florida on January 18, 2026, learn more at <a href="https://www.swoonsfest.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">swoonsfest.com</a>.<strong> </strong></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><strong>Mariah Scarpellini</strong>, author of<strong> </strong><em>The Titan's Rose</em>, the first book in the Olympian’s Curse Saga. <a href="https://linktr.ee/mariahscarpellini1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more about the book and help Mariah build a world before her launch</a>.</li></ol><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/S2025/12/15/0814-2025-romance-debuts </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/S2025/12/15/0814-2025-romance-debuts]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">26cfc90e-a8c7-476b-b494-83724c7530ec</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2025 00:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/26cfc90e-a8c7-476b-b494-83724c7530ec.mp3" length="108697808" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:53:14</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>8</itunes:season><itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>14</podcast:episode><podcast:season>8</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-cf179878-b818-4204-83cc-8850acb3195b.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S08:13 KJ Charles’s The Magpie Lord: We’re Gonna Get to the Tattoos</title><itunes:title>KJ Charles’s The Magpie Lord: We’re Gonna Get to the Tattoos</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We’re so excited for our deep dive of KJ Charles’s <em>The Magpie Lord</em>, first in her magical, gothic series, A Charm of Magpies. We talk about the clear chops displayed in this romance --strong plotting, complex characterization, and a beautiful understanding of what happily ever after looks like. And yes, we get to the tattoos. Obviously.</p><p>Don't forget--you can buy the <a href="https://pocketbooksshop.com/shop/fated-mates-box" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates Best of 2025 Book Pack</a> from our friends at <a href="https://pocketbooksshop.com/shop/fated-mates-box" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pocket Books Shop in Lancaster, PA</a>, and get eight of the books on the list! <em>Scoundrel Take Me Away</em> and <em>Lazarus, Home from War</em> (independently published) are not in the box. As always, you can add additional romances, or one of Sarah's books to your box. </p><p>If you want other people to discuss great romance series, maybe you want to join our Patreon? You get an extra monthly episode from us and access to the incredible readers and brilliant people on the Fated Mates Discord! Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>. You can also ask for it as a gift, or give it as one at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/gift" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/gift</a>.</p><p>Our next read along will be Ruby Dixon's <em>Ice Planet Barbarians</em>. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/4aBDQ1S" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/ice-planet-barbarians-ruby-dixon/1139042949" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, from your local indie, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780593546024" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</p><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>This is our second KJ Charles deep dive. <a href="https://groundhog-apricot-gbcy.squarespace.com/episodes/2022/12/19/s0514-band-sinister-by-kj-charles" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The first was Band Sinister.</a> </li><li>We were lucky enough to speak to KJ Charles about her work and her pathway through romance as part of our Trailblazers series. <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/2/14/s0522-trailblazer-kj-charles" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Listen to that interview here.</a></li><li>It’s been the snowiest start to <a href="https://blockclubchicago.org/2025/12/07/chicago-sees-snowiest-start-to-winter-since-1978-after-weekend-snowstorm/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">winter in Chicago</a> since 1978! <a href="https://www.wpr.org/news/great-lakes-ice-evaporation-new-study-weather" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Great Lakes can freeze</a>, <a href="https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/environment/2025/12/05/the-great-lakes-winter-ice-forecast-is-out-whats-expected/87591527007/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">kind of</a>. Here’s what the <a href="https://usicecenter.gov/current/great_lakes_seasonal_outlook_2025-2026.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Great Lakes ice prediction for this year</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NWnD-6uT4c" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Ice Fishing town hall meeting</a>, as promised.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://heatedrivalry.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heated Rivalry</a> is great and Jen <a href="https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-features/heated-rivalry-hockey-romance-tv-smut-1235476210/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">(and everyone else)</a> thinks you should watch it.&nbsp;</li><li>The Magpie Lord was published in 2013 by Samhain Publishing, which <a href="https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/digital/content-and-e-books/article/69517-samhain-publishing-to-shut-down-operations.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">shut down in 2016.</a></li><li>You can find all of our 80+ deep dive episodes in the <a href="https://groundhog-apricot-gbcy.squarespace.com/book-club" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates Book Club</a>. </li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Zara Doyle</strong>, author of <em>Bianca and Her Wolf</em>, available in print, ebook, audio or <a href="https://amzn.to/48g9znZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Lumi Gummies</strong>. Go to <a href="https://lumigummies.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lumigummies.com</a> and use code FATEDMATES for 30% off your order.</li><li><strong>Alexandra Cait</strong>, author of <em>Storm of Fire</em>, available in ebook or <a href="https://amzn.to/48qLF7X" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>1001 Dark Nights</strong>, publishers of years of delicious romance novellas and collections. The imprint will shutter in 2026, <a href="https://www.1001darknights.com/books/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">so head over and load up on print versions of all your favorites right now</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/12/2/0813-the-magpie-lord </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p><p>00:00 Wintr Bantr</p><p>08:17 Discor Bantr</p><p>14:40 AD: BIANCA AND HER WOLF</p><p>16:43 Best of 2025 Book Box</p><p>20:25 KJ Charles</p><p>28:36 The Samhain Publishing Story</p><p>32:10 AD: STORM OF FIRE</p><p>34:17 The Samhain Publishing Story</p><p>36:24 The Magpie Lord</p><p>43:19 It's Bad Magic</p><p>48:06 AD: 1001 DARK NIGHTS</p><p>50:19 Two For Joy</p><p>59:28 AD: LUMI GUMMIES</p><p>1:01:05 Curses &amp; [in]Fluences</p><p>1:10:53 The Romance Pacing</p><p>1:19:51 Sex and the Ether</p><p>1:31:01 The End</p><p>1:40:42 Outro</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We’re so excited for our deep dive of KJ Charles’s <em>The Magpie Lord</em>, first in her magical, gothic series, A Charm of Magpies. We talk about the clear chops displayed in this romance --strong plotting, complex characterization, and a beautiful understanding of what happily ever after looks like. And yes, we get to the tattoos. Obviously.</p><p>Don't forget--you can buy the <a href="https://pocketbooksshop.com/shop/fated-mates-box" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates Best of 2025 Book Pack</a> from our friends at <a href="https://pocketbooksshop.com/shop/fated-mates-box" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pocket Books Shop in Lancaster, PA</a>, and get eight of the books on the list! <em>Scoundrel Take Me Away</em> and <em>Lazarus, Home from War</em> (independently published) are not in the box. As always, you can add additional romances, or one of Sarah's books to your box. </p><p>If you want other people to discuss great romance series, maybe you want to join our Patreon? You get an extra monthly episode from us and access to the incredible readers and brilliant people on the Fated Mates Discord! Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>. You can also ask for it as a gift, or give it as one at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/gift" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/gift</a>.</p><p>Our next read along will be Ruby Dixon's <em>Ice Planet Barbarians</em>. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/4aBDQ1S" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/ice-planet-barbarians-ruby-dixon/1139042949" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, from your local indie, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780593546024" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</p><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>This is our second KJ Charles deep dive. <a href="https://groundhog-apricot-gbcy.squarespace.com/episodes/2022/12/19/s0514-band-sinister-by-kj-charles" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The first was Band Sinister.</a> </li><li>We were lucky enough to speak to KJ Charles about her work and her pathway through romance as part of our Trailblazers series. <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/2/14/s0522-trailblazer-kj-charles" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Listen to that interview here.</a></li><li>It’s been the snowiest start to <a href="https://blockclubchicago.org/2025/12/07/chicago-sees-snowiest-start-to-winter-since-1978-after-weekend-snowstorm/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">winter in Chicago</a> since 1978! <a href="https://www.wpr.org/news/great-lakes-ice-evaporation-new-study-weather" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Great Lakes can freeze</a>, <a href="https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/environment/2025/12/05/the-great-lakes-winter-ice-forecast-is-out-whats-expected/87591527007/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">kind of</a>. Here’s what the <a href="https://usicecenter.gov/current/great_lakes_seasonal_outlook_2025-2026.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Great Lakes ice prediction for this year</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NWnD-6uT4c" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Ice Fishing town hall meeting</a>, as promised.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://heatedrivalry.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heated Rivalry</a> is great and Jen <a href="https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-features/heated-rivalry-hockey-romance-tv-smut-1235476210/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">(and everyone else)</a> thinks you should watch it.&nbsp;</li><li>The Magpie Lord was published in 2013 by Samhain Publishing, which <a href="https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/digital/content-and-e-books/article/69517-samhain-publishing-to-shut-down-operations.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">shut down in 2016.</a></li><li>You can find all of our 80+ deep dive episodes in the <a href="https://groundhog-apricot-gbcy.squarespace.com/book-club" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates Book Club</a>. </li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Zara Doyle</strong>, author of <em>Bianca and Her Wolf</em>, available in print, ebook, audio or <a href="https://amzn.to/48g9znZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Lumi Gummies</strong>. Go to <a href="https://lumigummies.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lumigummies.com</a> and use code FATEDMATES for 30% off your order.</li><li><strong>Alexandra Cait</strong>, author of <em>Storm of Fire</em>, available in ebook or <a href="https://amzn.to/48qLF7X" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>1001 Dark Nights</strong>, publishers of years of delicious romance novellas and collections. The imprint will shutter in 2026, <a href="https://www.1001darknights.com/books/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">so head over and load up on print versions of all your favorites right now</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/12/2/0813-the-magpie-lord </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p><p>00:00 Wintr Bantr</p><p>08:17 Discor Bantr</p><p>14:40 AD: BIANCA AND HER WOLF</p><p>16:43 Best of 2025 Book Box</p><p>20:25 KJ Charles</p><p>28:36 The Samhain Publishing Story</p><p>32:10 AD: STORM OF FIRE</p><p>34:17 The Samhain Publishing Story</p><p>36:24 The Magpie Lord</p><p>43:19 It's Bad Magic</p><p>48:06 AD: 1001 DARK NIGHTS</p><p>50:19 Two For Joy</p><p>59:28 AD: LUMI GUMMIES</p><p>1:01:05 Curses &amp; [in]Fluences</p><p>1:10:53 The Romance Pacing</p><p>1:19:51 Sex and the Ether</p><p>1:31:01 The End</p><p>1:40:42 Outro</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/12/2/0813-the-magpie-lord]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">1764f797-07d7-4839-9da3-aa124161ee3f</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2025 00:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/1764f797-07d7-4839-9da3-aa124161ee3f.mp3" length="99903840" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:44:04</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>8</itunes:season><itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>13</podcast:episode><podcast:season>8</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-7e90c4af-fb07-40d7-b159-b0f2935db27e.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S08.12: Fantastic Romance Series</title><itunes:title>Fantastic Romance Series</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It's winter, which means that it's time to get cozy, build a blanket nest on the couch, and read a million books one right after the other in the great tradition of our ancient forbears. Today, we're talking about series that deliver one banger after another and, yes, that also bang. We'll talk historicals, contemporaries, and of course, the paranormal series that started it all for us. </p><p>Don't forget--you can buy the <a href="https://pocketbooksshop.com/shop/fated-mates-box" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates Best of 2025 Book Pack</a> from our friends at <a href="https://pocketbooksshop.com/shop/fated-mates-box" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pocket Books Shop in Lancaster, PA</a>, and get eight of the books on the list! <em>Scoundrel Take Me Away</em> and <em>Lazarus, Home from War</em> (independently published) are not in the box. As always, you can add additional romances, or one of Sarah's books to your box. </p><p>If you want other people to discuss great romance series, maybe you want to join our Patreon? You get an extra monthly episode from us and access to the incredible readers and brilliant people on the Fated Mates Discord! Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>. You can also ask for it as a gift, or give it as one at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/gift" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/gift</a>.</p><p>Our next read along will be KJ Charles's <em>The Magpie Lord</em>. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/47A8pSx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-magpie-lord-kj-charles/1115084899?ean=9781999784614" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-magpie-lord-2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-magpie-lord/id1310204196" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781999784614" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</p><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>Go to Sarah’s site to <a href="https://www.sarahmaclean.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sign up for her newsletter</a>. Apparently, it’s going to be a snowy winter <a href="https://unofficialnetworks.com/2025/09/07/squirrels-forecast-winter-old-farmers/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">because of squirrels</a>, <a href="https://www.farmersalmanac.com/fond-farewell-from-farmers-almanac" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Farmer’s Almanac is over</a>, and <a href="https://med.stanford.edu/news/insights/2021/10/addictive-potential-of-social-media-explained.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">social media is ruining your life and your brain</a>, or maybe it’s just <a href="https://thecycle.substack.com/p/the-whole-world-is-getting-dumber?r=digbq&amp;utm_campaign=post&amp;utm_medium=web&amp;triedRedirect=true" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your whole damn phone.</a>&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.thecut.com/article/heated-rivalry-gay-hockey-smut-show-tv-hbo-max-crave-canada-season-1-review.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Heated Rivalry</em>, baby</a>. Also this fall, <a href="https://parade.com/tv/the-cw-harlequin-romance-movies" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the CW has unveiled a bunch of movies based on Harlequin books, including <em>Savvy Sheldon Feels Good as Hell</em></a>, Mason Deaver’s YA romance <a href="https://www.lionsgate.com/movies/i-wish-you-all-the-best" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>I Wish You All the Best</em></a> and in January we get Season 4 of Bridgerton, and Netflix's adaptation of Emily Henry's <a href="https://youtu.be/19Dyv7Kpmx8?si=R9ji-pQYaw4cn0Fs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>People We Meet on Vacation</em>.</a>&nbsp;</li><li>Graphic Audio has adapted a bunch of your favorite books, <a href="https://www.graphicaudio.net/kate-daniels-series-set.html?srsltid=AfmBOoqaoNmv5Aqo8mfeWNwxY8KoXnMiFy0XyFkrf105YNjGwJjUy9Bb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">not just Kate Daniels.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fbeverly-jenkins-reading-order-graphic-help-v0-zme5o1rjlqgd1.jpg%3Fwidth%3D12500%26format%3Dpjpg%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D24743978276e6c8afd30a3d10a0a23e7587272e2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A graphic of the Beverly Jenkins universe</a>.</li><li>Here’s a cool way to look at the <a href="https://www.lorraineheath.com/st-james-character-guide" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">connections from Lorraine Heath’s Scoundrels of St. James series</a>.</li><li>Sarah misses <a href="https://romantictimesindex.weebly.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Romantic Times magazine.</a> </li></ul><br/><h2>Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/442FLJ3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Immortals After Dark</a> by Kresley Cole</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XqPaX9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Game Maker Series</a> by Kresley Cole</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/48MzZOg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kate Daniels</a> by Ilona Andrews</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4iwDkUM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Cynster Family</a> by Stephanie Laurens</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4415zoT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pennyroyal Green</a> by Julie Anne Long</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4iCP7Bm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Beverly Jenkins Universe</a></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3M83XUd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Game Changer Series</a> by Rachel Reid</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/48aBJkc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Irish Shifters</a> by Theodora Taylor</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/48uMjkQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Temperance Falls</a> by London Hale</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XumBbk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">His Duchess’s Lovers</a> by Elizabeth Roubaix</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4pn51SL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scoundrels of St. James</a> by Lorraine Heath</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Kr7UCI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Toronto Series</a> by Farrah Heron</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4rwsBhf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ice Planet Barbarians</a> by Ruby Dixon</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/48orLuo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Undone series</a> by Payton Corinne</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4pw6fLL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fast Track Billionaires</a> by Amanda Cinelli</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4iuQnX7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bourbon Brothers</a> by Reese Ryan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4iCPwUo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Shieldmaiden Sisters</a> by Lucy Morris</li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Zara Doyle</strong>, author of <em>Tanya and Her Wolf</em>, available in print, ebook, audio or <a href="https://amzn.to/4rQTYmH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Jenny Alexandra</strong>, authors of <em>Santa Cutie</em>, available in print, ebook or <a href="https://amzn.to/48BJQ9y" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Bailey Seaborn</strong>, author of<strong> </strong><em>Peppermint Bark, No Bite</em>, available in ebook or <a href="https://amzn.to/48faXan" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Blue Box Press</strong>, publishers of JR Ward's <em>Black Dagger Brotherhood: 20th Anniversary Insider's Guide</em>, available in hardcover, ebook and audiobook at <a href="https://amzn.to/4pbWiTh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-black-dagger-brotherhood-j-r-ward/1147802863" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-black-dagger-brotherhood-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-black-dagger-brotherhood/id6748412922" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781963135794" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/12/1/0812-bingeable-romance-series-update </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer"...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's winter, which means that it's time to get cozy, build a blanket nest on the couch, and read a million books one right after the other in the great tradition of our ancient forbears. Today, we're talking about series that deliver one banger after another and, yes, that also bang. We'll talk historicals, contemporaries, and of course, the paranormal series that started it all for us. </p><p>Don't forget--you can buy the <a href="https://pocketbooksshop.com/shop/fated-mates-box" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates Best of 2025 Book Pack</a> from our friends at <a href="https://pocketbooksshop.com/shop/fated-mates-box" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pocket Books Shop in Lancaster, PA</a>, and get eight of the books on the list! <em>Scoundrel Take Me Away</em> and <em>Lazarus, Home from War</em> (independently published) are not in the box. As always, you can add additional romances, or one of Sarah's books to your box. </p><p>If you want other people to discuss great romance series, maybe you want to join our Patreon? You get an extra monthly episode from us and access to the incredible readers and brilliant people on the Fated Mates Discord! Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>. You can also ask for it as a gift, or give it as one at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/gift" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/gift</a>.</p><p>Our next read along will be KJ Charles's <em>The Magpie Lord</em>. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/47A8pSx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-magpie-lord-kj-charles/1115084899?ean=9781999784614" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-magpie-lord-2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-magpie-lord/id1310204196" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781999784614" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</p><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>Go to Sarah’s site to <a href="https://www.sarahmaclean.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sign up for her newsletter</a>. Apparently, it’s going to be a snowy winter <a href="https://unofficialnetworks.com/2025/09/07/squirrels-forecast-winter-old-farmers/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">because of squirrels</a>, <a href="https://www.farmersalmanac.com/fond-farewell-from-farmers-almanac" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Farmer’s Almanac is over</a>, and <a href="https://med.stanford.edu/news/insights/2021/10/addictive-potential-of-social-media-explained.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">social media is ruining your life and your brain</a>, or maybe it’s just <a href="https://thecycle.substack.com/p/the-whole-world-is-getting-dumber?r=digbq&amp;utm_campaign=post&amp;utm_medium=web&amp;triedRedirect=true" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your whole damn phone.</a>&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.thecut.com/article/heated-rivalry-gay-hockey-smut-show-tv-hbo-max-crave-canada-season-1-review.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Heated Rivalry</em>, baby</a>. Also this fall, <a href="https://parade.com/tv/the-cw-harlequin-romance-movies" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the CW has unveiled a bunch of movies based on Harlequin books, including <em>Savvy Sheldon Feels Good as Hell</em></a>, Mason Deaver’s YA romance <a href="https://www.lionsgate.com/movies/i-wish-you-all-the-best" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>I Wish You All the Best</em></a> and in January we get Season 4 of Bridgerton, and Netflix's adaptation of Emily Henry's <a href="https://youtu.be/19Dyv7Kpmx8?si=R9ji-pQYaw4cn0Fs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>People We Meet on Vacation</em>.</a>&nbsp;</li><li>Graphic Audio has adapted a bunch of your favorite books, <a href="https://www.graphicaudio.net/kate-daniels-series-set.html?srsltid=AfmBOoqaoNmv5Aqo8mfeWNwxY8KoXnMiFy0XyFkrf105YNjGwJjUy9Bb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">not just Kate Daniels.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fbeverly-jenkins-reading-order-graphic-help-v0-zme5o1rjlqgd1.jpg%3Fwidth%3D12500%26format%3Dpjpg%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D24743978276e6c8afd30a3d10a0a23e7587272e2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A graphic of the Beverly Jenkins universe</a>.</li><li>Here’s a cool way to look at the <a href="https://www.lorraineheath.com/st-james-character-guide" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">connections from Lorraine Heath’s Scoundrels of St. James series</a>.</li><li>Sarah misses <a href="https://romantictimesindex.weebly.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Romantic Times magazine.</a> </li></ul><br/><h2>Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/442FLJ3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Immortals After Dark</a> by Kresley Cole</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XqPaX9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Game Maker Series</a> by Kresley Cole</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/48MzZOg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kate Daniels</a> by Ilona Andrews</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4iwDkUM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Cynster Family</a> by Stephanie Laurens</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4415zoT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pennyroyal Green</a> by Julie Anne Long</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4iCP7Bm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Beverly Jenkins Universe</a></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3M83XUd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Game Changer Series</a> by Rachel Reid</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/48aBJkc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Irish Shifters</a> by Theodora Taylor</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/48uMjkQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Temperance Falls</a> by London Hale</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XumBbk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">His Duchess’s Lovers</a> by Elizabeth Roubaix</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4pn51SL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scoundrels of St. James</a> by Lorraine Heath</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Kr7UCI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Toronto Series</a> by Farrah Heron</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4rwsBhf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ice Planet Barbarians</a> by Ruby Dixon</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/48orLuo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Undone series</a> by Payton Corinne</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4pw6fLL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fast Track Billionaires</a> by Amanda Cinelli</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4iuQnX7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bourbon Brothers</a> by Reese Ryan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4iCPwUo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Shieldmaiden Sisters</a> by Lucy Morris</li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Zara Doyle</strong>, author of <em>Tanya and Her Wolf</em>, available in print, ebook, audio or <a href="https://amzn.to/4rQTYmH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Jenny Alexandra</strong>, authors of <em>Santa Cutie</em>, available in print, ebook or <a href="https://amzn.to/48BJQ9y" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Bailey Seaborn</strong>, author of<strong> </strong><em>Peppermint Bark, No Bite</em>, available in ebook or <a href="https://amzn.to/48faXan" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Blue Box Press</strong>, publishers of JR Ward's <em>Black Dagger Brotherhood: 20th Anniversary Insider's Guide</em>, available in hardcover, ebook and audiobook at <a href="https://amzn.to/4pbWiTh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-black-dagger-brotherhood-j-r-ward/1147802863" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-black-dagger-brotherhood-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-black-dagger-brotherhood/id6748412922" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781963135794" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/12/1/0812-bingeable-romance-series-update </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/12/1/0812-bingeable-romance-series-update]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">9a0ed8c8-7500-46b5-b9bd-88e5caa042cd</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2025 01:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/9a0ed8c8-7500-46b5-b9bd-88e5caa042cd.mp3" length="95234375" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:30:25</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>8</itunes:season><itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>12</podcast:episode><podcast:season>8</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-4cfc389f-847d-4def-a371-f8708eae7641.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S08.11: Holiday Romance 2025</title><itunes:title>Holiday Romance 2025</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>The end of the year is nigh, and it's our holiday romance novel episode! We're talking about a collection of romances that are entirely new to us (except for the one moment where Sarah talks about that old McNaught short story that installed all her cold-weather romance buttons). We've got Austen retellings, Regency cats, characters playing with holiday toys, CIA agents and, of course, some sexy Santas. You deserve nice things. </p><p>Don't forget--you can buy the <a href="https://pocketbooksshop.com/shop/fated-mates-box" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates Best of 2025 Book Pack</a> from our friends at <a href="https://pocketbooksshop.com/shop/fated-mates-box" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pocket Books Shop in Lancaster, PA</a>, and get eight of the books on the list! <em>Scoundrel Take Me Away</em> and <em>Lazarus, Home from War</em> (independently published) are not in the box. As always, you can add additional romances, or one of Sarah's books to your box. </p><p>If you want other people to discuss holiday (or other) romances, maybe you want to join our Patreon? You get an extra monthly episode from us and access to the incredible readers and brilliant people on the Fated Mates Discord! Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>. </p><p>Our next read along will be KJ Charles's <em>The Magpie Lord</em>. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/47A8pSx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-magpie-lord-kj-charles/1115084899?ean=9781999784614" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-magpie-lord-2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-magpie-lord/id1310204196" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781999784614" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</p><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>There are several accounts as to where Irving Berlin wrote <em>White Christmas</em>. Sarah stayed at the Arizona <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona_Biltmore_Hotel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Biltmore Hotel</a>, which claims it inspired the song (by being the opposite of snowy), but there's also an account that he wrote it in La Quinta, CA at the La Quinta Hotel (not to be confused with just any LaQuinta). </li><li>Check out our prior holiday romance episodes:</li><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/12/16/0715-holiday-romances-for-2024-put-it-in-the-lilly-library" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2024, including Sara Raasch, Vivian Mae, Evie Rose, Timothy Janovsky &amp; more</a></li><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/12/19/0615-holiday-romance-novels-mostly-christmas" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2023, including Holly June Smith, Oona Grace, Kayla Grosse, Tracey Livesay &amp; more</a></li><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/12/12/s0513-here-comes-santa-claus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2022: Here Comes Santa Claus</a></li><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/12/23/0416-short-and-sexy-christmas-recs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2021: Short &amp; Sexy Christmas Recs</a></li><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/12/19/s0216-christmas-romance-recommendations" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2019, including Adriana Herrera, Delilah Peters, and several anthologies</a></li><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/35-holiday-romances-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2018, including Therese Beharrie, a Chanukah anthology, Cecilia Grant, Tiffany Reisz &amp; more</a></li></ul><br/><h2>Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/48884Ix" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Anne of Avenue A</a> by Audrey Bellezza and Emily Harding</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3JVbSn8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Christmas in Coconut Creek</a> by Karissa Kinword</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/48a6N27" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mistletoe and Mishigas</a> by MA Wardell</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4aajpJg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Yours for the Season</a> by Uzma Jalaluddin</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ocHSks" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Holiday Hookup List</a> by Alexis Daria</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4pokm51" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Make My Wish Come True</a> by Caroline Linden</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4pr4AGB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Claiming His Christmas Wife</a> by Dani Collins</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4oij2zU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">An Heir for Christmas</a> by Caitlin Crews</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3LUyW64" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Rescue</a> by Julie Weaver</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43Pa5GV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Christmas in Spite of You</a> by KC Mills</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/44s4GWi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Saint and the Queen</a> by Desiree</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4pnfRru" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Date Night in December</a> by Jaqueline Snowe</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3K6gOpe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Santa’s Baby</a> by Lacey Hawthorne </li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Jenny Alexandra</strong>, authors of <em>Santa Cutie</em>, available in print, ebook or <a href="https://amzn.to/48BJQ9y" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>LaQuette</strong>, author of <em>The King's Pregnancy Proposition</em>, available in print, ebook and audio at <a href="https://amzn.to/43PYF5H" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-kings-pregnancy-proposition-laquette/1146976546?ean=9781335213365" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-king-s-pregnancy-proposition-crowning-a-devereaux-book-2-mills-boon-modern?srsltid=AfmBOor5hMqS57CqLLrR7Fa9VYzkLCj4vLQleQcYEECBbyoE20UvhrDl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/au/book/the-kings-pregnancy-proposition/id6752576667" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781335213365" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Ginny B Moore</strong>, author of<strong> </strong><em>How the Rogue Stole Christmas</em>, available in print, ebook or <a href="https://amzn.to/3KoQA1e" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>William Morrow Books</strong>, publishers of Olivia Dade's <em>Second Chance Romance</em>, available in print, ebook and audio at <a href="https://amzn.to/4rkV5dR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/second-chance-romance-olivia-dade/1147048332?ean=9780063215979" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/second-chance-romance-23?sId=bda53945-729a-4c56-9c41-d1308ab0ba96&amp;ssId=xtdZZiSz3hK6x6GoG5IOj&amp;cPos=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/second-chance-romance/id6742449067" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063215979" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/11/23/0811-holiday-romances </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The end of the year is nigh, and it's our holiday romance novel episode! We're talking about a collection of romances that are entirely new to us (except for the one moment where Sarah talks about that old McNaught short story that installed all her cold-weather romance buttons). We've got Austen retellings, Regency cats, characters playing with holiday toys, CIA agents and, of course, some sexy Santas. You deserve nice things. </p><p>Don't forget--you can buy the <a href="https://pocketbooksshop.com/shop/fated-mates-box" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates Best of 2025 Book Pack</a> from our friends at <a href="https://pocketbooksshop.com/shop/fated-mates-box" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pocket Books Shop in Lancaster, PA</a>, and get eight of the books on the list! <em>Scoundrel Take Me Away</em> and <em>Lazarus, Home from War</em> (independently published) are not in the box. As always, you can add additional romances, or one of Sarah's books to your box. </p><p>If you want other people to discuss holiday (or other) romances, maybe you want to join our Patreon? You get an extra monthly episode from us and access to the incredible readers and brilliant people on the Fated Mates Discord! Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>. </p><p>Our next read along will be KJ Charles's <em>The Magpie Lord</em>. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/47A8pSx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-magpie-lord-kj-charles/1115084899?ean=9781999784614" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-magpie-lord-2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-magpie-lord/id1310204196" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781999784614" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</p><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>There are several accounts as to where Irving Berlin wrote <em>White Christmas</em>. Sarah stayed at the Arizona <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona_Biltmore_Hotel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Biltmore Hotel</a>, which claims it inspired the song (by being the opposite of snowy), but there's also an account that he wrote it in La Quinta, CA at the La Quinta Hotel (not to be confused with just any LaQuinta). </li><li>Check out our prior holiday romance episodes:</li><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/12/16/0715-holiday-romances-for-2024-put-it-in-the-lilly-library" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2024, including Sara Raasch, Vivian Mae, Evie Rose, Timothy Janovsky &amp; more</a></li><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/12/19/0615-holiday-romance-novels-mostly-christmas" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2023, including Holly June Smith, Oona Grace, Kayla Grosse, Tracey Livesay &amp; more</a></li><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/12/12/s0513-here-comes-santa-claus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2022: Here Comes Santa Claus</a></li><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/12/23/0416-short-and-sexy-christmas-recs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2021: Short &amp; Sexy Christmas Recs</a></li><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/12/19/s0216-christmas-romance-recommendations" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2019, including Adriana Herrera, Delilah Peters, and several anthologies</a></li><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/35-holiday-romances-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2018, including Therese Beharrie, a Chanukah anthology, Cecilia Grant, Tiffany Reisz &amp; more</a></li></ul><br/><h2>Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/48884Ix" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Anne of Avenue A</a> by Audrey Bellezza and Emily Harding</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3JVbSn8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Christmas in Coconut Creek</a> by Karissa Kinword</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/48a6N27" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mistletoe and Mishigas</a> by MA Wardell</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4aajpJg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Yours for the Season</a> by Uzma Jalaluddin</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ocHSks" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Holiday Hookup List</a> by Alexis Daria</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4pokm51" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Make My Wish Come True</a> by Caroline Linden</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4pr4AGB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Claiming His Christmas Wife</a> by Dani Collins</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4oij2zU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">An Heir for Christmas</a> by Caitlin Crews</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3LUyW64" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Rescue</a> by Julie Weaver</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43Pa5GV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Christmas in Spite of You</a> by KC Mills</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/44s4GWi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Saint and the Queen</a> by Desiree</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4pnfRru" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Date Night in December</a> by Jaqueline Snowe</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3K6gOpe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Santa’s Baby</a> by Lacey Hawthorne </li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Jenny Alexandra</strong>, authors of <em>Santa Cutie</em>, available in print, ebook or <a href="https://amzn.to/48BJQ9y" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>LaQuette</strong>, author of <em>The King's Pregnancy Proposition</em>, available in print, ebook and audio at <a href="https://amzn.to/43PYF5H" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-kings-pregnancy-proposition-laquette/1146976546?ean=9781335213365" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-king-s-pregnancy-proposition-crowning-a-devereaux-book-2-mills-boon-modern?srsltid=AfmBOor5hMqS57CqLLrR7Fa9VYzkLCj4vLQleQcYEECBbyoE20UvhrDl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/au/book/the-kings-pregnancy-proposition/id6752576667" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781335213365" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Ginny B Moore</strong>, author of<strong> </strong><em>How the Rogue Stole Christmas</em>, available in print, ebook or <a href="https://amzn.to/3KoQA1e" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>William Morrow Books</strong>, publishers of Olivia Dade's <em>Second Chance Romance</em>, available in print, ebook and audio at <a href="https://amzn.to/4rkV5dR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/second-chance-romance-olivia-dade/1147048332?ean=9780063215979" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/second-chance-romance-23?sId=bda53945-729a-4c56-9c41-d1308ab0ba96&amp;ssId=xtdZZiSz3hK6x6GoG5IOj&amp;cPos=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/second-chance-romance/id6742449067" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063215979" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/11/23/0811-holiday-romances </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/11/23/0811-holiday-romances]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5466006c-a38d-4c4f-b6ec-d3e64a5b53dd</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2025 23:15:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/5466006c-a38d-4c4f-b6ec-d3e64a5b53dd.mp3" length="97487563" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:41:07</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>8</itunes:season><itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>11</podcast:episode><podcast:season>8</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-9e590a6e-63b3-4d5f-b4b0-c63109683aa0.json" type="application/json+chapters"/><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="video/youtube" title="S08.11: Holiday Romance 2025"><podcast:source uri="https://youtu.be/WvYM4yNKYB8"/></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>S08.10: The Best Romance Novels of 2025</title><itunes:title>The Best Romance Novels of 2025</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It's that time of year! We're talking about the Best Romance Novels of 2025. We've chosen ten books that we love and that cover a range of historical, contemporary and paranormal, featuring romance with werewolves and cowboys, vaudeville actresses and vikings, Dukes and the actual Devil. </p><p>This year, you can buy the <a href="https://pocketbooksshop.com/shop/fated-mates-box" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates Best of 2025 Book Pack</a> from our friends at <a href="https://www.pocketbooksshop.com/fated-mates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pocket Books Shop in Lancaster, PA</a>, and get eight of the books on the list! <em>Scoundrel Take Me Away</em> and <em>Lazarus, Home from War</em> (independently published) are not available. As always, you can add additional romances, or one of Sarah's books to your box. </p><p>We love the idea of you gifting yourself this box (you deserve it!), but maybe you’d like to slide into someone’s text messages with the link as a very excellent gift for you! Or…you can do what Sarah does, and buy the box and spread the love around—sending each of the books to someone on your list or wrapping them up and popping them in your local Little Free Library. Let us know what you end up doing with these fabulous books, and don’t forget to tag us on Instagram or Threads or Bluesky when you unbox!  </p><p>Check out our “Best Romance Novels” lists from previous years: <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/11/17/0711-the-best-romance-novels-of-2024" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2024</a>, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/11/27/0612-best-romance-novels-of-2023" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2023</a>, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/11/27/s0511-the-best-romance-novels-of-2022" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2022</a>, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/11/8/s0409-best-romance-novels-of-2021" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2021</a>, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/11/23/s0316-best-romance-novels-of-2020" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2020</a>, and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/12/1/s0213-sarah-and-jens-best-romance-novels-of-2019" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2019</a>. (We were 5 minutes old in 2018 and didn’t do a list that year), and please tell us what your favorite books of 2025 were!</p><p>If you want other people to discuss this list with, maybe you want to join our Patreon? You get an extra monthly episode from us and access to the incredible readers and brilliant people on the Fated Mates Discord! Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>. </p><p>Our next read along will be KJ Charles's <em>The Magpie Lord</em>. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/47A8pSx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-magpie-lord-kj-charles/1115084899?ean=9781999784614" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-magpie-lord-2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-magpie-lord/id1310204196" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781999784614" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</p><h2>The Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/48hIRLw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fan Service</a> by Rosie Danan&nbsp;&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4873WqZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scoundrel, Take Me Away</a> by Louisa Darling </li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43xbG3Z" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Son Of The Morning</a> by Akwaeke Emezi&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Xz4Asd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tempest Of Desire</a> by Lorraine Heath </li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4r50J3z" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Into The Woods</a> by Jenny Holiday&nbsp;&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/44i34yn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lazarus, Home from the War</a> by E.H. Lupton&nbsp;&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/49Y79eO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Showgirl’s Rules For Falling In Love</a> by Alice Murphy&nbsp;&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4o0mGhG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Bone King And The Starling</a> by Elisabeth Stephens&nbsp;&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4r6QkEu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Some Kind Of Famous</a> by Ava Wilder&nbsp;</li><li>&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/4o0uWhs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cowboy It’s Cold Outside</a> by Maisey Yates </li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Lyx Books</strong>, publishers of Selina Mae's <a href="https://amzn.to/3LEsMa7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Lessons in Faking</em></a>, available in print, ebook and audio at <a href="https://amzn.to/3LEsMa7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/lessons-in-faking-selina-mae/1146489727" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/lessons-in-faking-3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/lessons-in-faking/id6745190959" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9798893310696" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.  (We mistakenly called this <em>YA</em> in the ad read. It is <em>New Adult</em>.)</li><li><strong>Lumi Gummies</strong>. Go to <a href="https://lumigummies.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lumigummies.com</a> and use code FATEDMATES for 30% off your order.</li><li><strong>Darcy Green</strong>, author of<strong> </strong><em>After the Siren</em>, available in print or ebook at <a href="https://amzn.to/4oWVce3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/after-the-siren-1?sId=15ba3d0b-3406-4cf3-b952-48363b2a90b3&amp;ssId=UcZsUWb9mtdCVMebWL0j8&amp;cPos=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, and <a href="https://books.apple.com/gb/book/after-the-siren/id6744940212" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>.</li><li><strong>Zara Doyle</strong>, author of <em>Emma and Her Wolf</em>, available in print, ebook and audio at <a href="https://amzn.to/4nQrje6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, or <a href="https://amzn.to/3X3uVOU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/11/17/best-romance-novels-of-2025 </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's that time of year! We're talking about the Best Romance Novels of 2025. We've chosen ten books that we love and that cover a range of historical, contemporary and paranormal, featuring romance with werewolves and cowboys, vaudeville actresses and vikings, Dukes and the actual Devil. </p><p>This year, you can buy the <a href="https://pocketbooksshop.com/shop/fated-mates-box" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates Best of 2025 Book Pack</a> from our friends at <a href="https://www.pocketbooksshop.com/fated-mates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pocket Books Shop in Lancaster, PA</a>, and get eight of the books on the list! <em>Scoundrel Take Me Away</em> and <em>Lazarus, Home from War</em> (independently published) are not available. As always, you can add additional romances, or one of Sarah's books to your box. </p><p>We love the idea of you gifting yourself this box (you deserve it!), but maybe you’d like to slide into someone’s text messages with the link as a very excellent gift for you! Or…you can do what Sarah does, and buy the box and spread the love around—sending each of the books to someone on your list or wrapping them up and popping them in your local Little Free Library. Let us know what you end up doing with these fabulous books, and don’t forget to tag us on Instagram or Threads or Bluesky when you unbox!  </p><p>Check out our “Best Romance Novels” lists from previous years: <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/11/17/0711-the-best-romance-novels-of-2024" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2024</a>, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/11/27/0612-best-romance-novels-of-2023" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2023</a>, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/11/27/s0511-the-best-romance-novels-of-2022" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2022</a>, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/11/8/s0409-best-romance-novels-of-2021" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2021</a>, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/11/23/s0316-best-romance-novels-of-2020" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2020</a>, and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/12/1/s0213-sarah-and-jens-best-romance-novels-of-2019" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2019</a>. (We were 5 minutes old in 2018 and didn’t do a list that year), and please tell us what your favorite books of 2025 were!</p><p>If you want other people to discuss this list with, maybe you want to join our Patreon? You get an extra monthly episode from us and access to the incredible readers and brilliant people on the Fated Mates Discord! Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>. </p><p>Our next read along will be KJ Charles's <em>The Magpie Lord</em>. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/47A8pSx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-magpie-lord-kj-charles/1115084899?ean=9781999784614" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-magpie-lord-2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-magpie-lord/id1310204196" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781999784614" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</p><h2>The Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/48hIRLw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fan Service</a> by Rosie Danan&nbsp;&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4873WqZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scoundrel, Take Me Away</a> by Louisa Darling </li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43xbG3Z" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Son Of The Morning</a> by Akwaeke Emezi&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Xz4Asd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tempest Of Desire</a> by Lorraine Heath </li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4r50J3z" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Into The Woods</a> by Jenny Holiday&nbsp;&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/44i34yn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lazarus, Home from the War</a> by E.H. Lupton&nbsp;&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/49Y79eO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Showgirl’s Rules For Falling In Love</a> by Alice Murphy&nbsp;&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4o0mGhG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Bone King And The Starling</a> by Elisabeth Stephens&nbsp;&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4r6QkEu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Some Kind Of Famous</a> by Ava Wilder&nbsp;</li><li>&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/4o0uWhs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cowboy It’s Cold Outside</a> by Maisey Yates </li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Lyx Books</strong>, publishers of Selina Mae's <a href="https://amzn.to/3LEsMa7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Lessons in Faking</em></a>, available in print, ebook and audio at <a href="https://amzn.to/3LEsMa7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/lessons-in-faking-selina-mae/1146489727" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/lessons-in-faking-3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/lessons-in-faking/id6745190959" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9798893310696" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.  (We mistakenly called this <em>YA</em> in the ad read. It is <em>New Adult</em>.)</li><li><strong>Lumi Gummies</strong>. Go to <a href="https://lumigummies.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lumigummies.com</a> and use code FATEDMATES for 30% off your order.</li><li><strong>Darcy Green</strong>, author of<strong> </strong><em>After the Siren</em>, available in print or ebook at <a href="https://amzn.to/4oWVce3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/after-the-siren-1?sId=15ba3d0b-3406-4cf3-b952-48363b2a90b3&amp;ssId=UcZsUWb9mtdCVMebWL0j8&amp;cPos=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, and <a href="https://books.apple.com/gb/book/after-the-siren/id6744940212" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>.</li><li><strong>Zara Doyle</strong>, author of <em>Emma and Her Wolf</em>, available in print, ebook and audio at <a href="https://amzn.to/4nQrje6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, or <a href="https://amzn.to/3X3uVOU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/11/17/best-romance-novels-of-2025 </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/11/17/best-romance-novels-of-2025]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">13cc45c2-1f65-445f-be35-df5e2f8ac42d</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/0b4572b6-0f09-453b-beef-6bbdb79d6b87/promo-template.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2025 00:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/13cc45c2-1f65-445f-be35-df5e2f8ac42d.mp3" length="107037660" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:51:30</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>8</itunes:season><itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>10</podcast:episode><podcast:season>8</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-04470782-b239-4fa7-910d-d23bd297d978.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S08.09: Our Favorite Romance Microtropes</title><itunes:title>Our Favorite Romance Microtropes</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We had a great week, and so we decided we all need nice things, which means it's time to just talk about the stuff we love in romance. We're talking about our favorite microtropes in romance novels--the things that give us pure shots of joy. There's all sorts of stuff in here: contemporaries, historicals, paranormals, mafia, hockey, tattoos, piercings, kilts, families getting their comeuppance, and much much more. </p><p>If you'd like more romance chat in your life, please consider joining our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! There, magnificent firebirds hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>Our next read along will be KJ Charles's <em>The Magpie Lord</em>. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/47A8pSx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-magpie-lord-kj-charles/1115084899?ean=9781999784614" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-magpie-lord-2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-magpie-lord/id1310204196" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781999784614" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</p><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>It’s not too early to donate to our <a href="https://www.grapevine.org/giving-circle/wj6hgjQ/Fated-States" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated States Giving Circle</a>, or maybe you want to <a href="https://runforsomething.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Run for Something</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>You can check out <a href="https://fatedmates.net/discover-great-romance-books-curated-by-expert-humans" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Collections page for more great book lists</a> (made by humans!), and we also talked about <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/12/31/s0616-happy-new-year-breeding-kink-with-mila-finelli" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the breeding kink episode</a> in case you want to see just how unhinged we get on New Year’s Eve.</li><li><a href="https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/entertainment/g28438966/mandela-effect-examples/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Mandela Effect</a> is in fact named after <a href="https://youtu.be/AgcTvoWjZJU?si=wn-Eusc0iA-ap0mE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nelson Mandela</a>.&nbsp;&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.ted.com/podcasts/rethinking-with-adam-grant/the-psychology-of-fiction-with-jennifer-lynn-barnes-transcript" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jennifer Lynn Barnes is a researcher</a> who has described <a href="https://www.writersdigest.com/write-better-fiction/jennifer-lynn-barnes-offering-readers-a-world-to-sink-into" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">universal pleasure</a> centers.</li><li><a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cayo-santiago-rhesus-macaque-monkeys-study-60-minutes-transcript/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Monkey Island is a real place called Cayo</a> off the coast of Puerto Rico&nbsp; or <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_Island" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a video game</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Here’s an amazing dissection of a microtrope beloved by Mary Balogh: <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/RomanceBooks/comments/1iz47s6/stern_men_who_cant_stop_skinny_dipping_an/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">stern men who can’t stop skinny dipping.</a></li><li>If you are in Brooklyn this week, <a href="https://www.therippedbodice.com/brooklyn-events" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">stop by on Thursday November 13, 2025 to see Sarah and several other authors from the Ladies in Waiting collection.&nbsp;</a></li></ul><br/><h2>Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4nLle2t" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Her Naughty Holiday</a> by Tiffany Reisz</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4qVqnYG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Billionaire’s Bargain</a> by Naima Simone</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47CO7cx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Beast Prince</a> by Marian Perera</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4qV6pNy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lothaire</a> by Kresley Cole</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4p5eFJh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lord of Scoundrels</a> by Loretta Chase</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4nRpBci" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Bride</a> by Julie Garwood</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43mnYw6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mafia Mistress</a> by Mila Finelli</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3WSqE0J" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mister O</a> by Lauren Blakeley</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4oYrdSy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Son of the Morning</a> by Akwaeke Emezi</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3JOWSXC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gentle Rogue</a> by Johanna Lindsey</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/49fhOlc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Redemption</a> by Nikki Sloane</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4p334u5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Funny Feelings</a> by Tarah DeWitt</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4i0bJLM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hellfire Riders: Jack and Lily</a> by Kati Wilde</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/49NLbuV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tempest</a> by Beverly Jenkins</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4oX06qU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mountain Boss</a> by SJ Tilly</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3JJbzvy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Beautiful Sinner</a> by Sophie Jordan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43UQmFE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Hostage Bargain</a> by Annika Martin</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4p8u6jZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hans</a> by SJ Tilly</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43Z37Pp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Streams and Schemes</a> by Rebecca Kinkade</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hUavRS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Puck Me Secretly</a> by Odette Stone</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/49f5KAm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kiss an Angel</a> by Susan Elizabeth Phillips</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4oDILDU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heated Rivalry</a> by Rachel Reid</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3LrGUDx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lead</a> by Kylie Scott</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47KWjaN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Oops Baby for the Mafia Boss</a> by Evie Rose</li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Lily Riley</strong>, author of <em>Phoenix's Last Heist</em>, available in print and ebook at <a href="https://amzn.to/3LVfYvP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a> or with <a href="https://amzn.to/4nP5kEo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Lumi Gummies</strong>. Go to <a href="https://lumigummies.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lumigummies.com</a> and use code FATEDMATES for 30% off your order.</li><li><strong>Kylie Scott</strong>, author of<strong> </strong><em>So My Ex-Boyfriend is a Serial Killer</em>, available in print, ebook and audio at <a href="https://amzn.to/4nQrje6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/so-my-ex-boyfriend-is-a-serial-killer-kylie-scott/1147362519?ean=2940184587004" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/so-my-ex-boyfriend-is-a-serial-killer?sId=178f3ba5-8a96-4326-882f-3561960048b1&amp;ssId=G6nKo0lURndtOgu0OBpcT&amp;cPos=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/so-my-ex-boyfriend-is-a-serial-killer/id6745310701" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780648457411" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/11/10/s0809-our-favorite-romance-microtropes </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We had a great week, and so we decided we all need nice things, which means it's time to just talk about the stuff we love in romance. We're talking about our favorite microtropes in romance novels--the things that give us pure shots of joy. There's all sorts of stuff in here: contemporaries, historicals, paranormals, mafia, hockey, tattoos, piercings, kilts, families getting their comeuppance, and much much more. </p><p>If you'd like more romance chat in your life, please consider joining our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! There, magnificent firebirds hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>Our next read along will be KJ Charles's <em>The Magpie Lord</em>. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/47A8pSx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-magpie-lord-kj-charles/1115084899?ean=9781999784614" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-magpie-lord-2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-magpie-lord/id1310204196" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781999784614" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</p><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>It’s not too early to donate to our <a href="https://www.grapevine.org/giving-circle/wj6hgjQ/Fated-States" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated States Giving Circle</a>, or maybe you want to <a href="https://runforsomething.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Run for Something</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>You can check out <a href="https://fatedmates.net/discover-great-romance-books-curated-by-expert-humans" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Collections page for more great book lists</a> (made by humans!), and we also talked about <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/12/31/s0616-happy-new-year-breeding-kink-with-mila-finelli" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the breeding kink episode</a> in case you want to see just how unhinged we get on New Year’s Eve.</li><li><a href="https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/entertainment/g28438966/mandela-effect-examples/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Mandela Effect</a> is in fact named after <a href="https://youtu.be/AgcTvoWjZJU?si=wn-Eusc0iA-ap0mE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nelson Mandela</a>.&nbsp;&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.ted.com/podcasts/rethinking-with-adam-grant/the-psychology-of-fiction-with-jennifer-lynn-barnes-transcript" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jennifer Lynn Barnes is a researcher</a> who has described <a href="https://www.writersdigest.com/write-better-fiction/jennifer-lynn-barnes-offering-readers-a-world-to-sink-into" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">universal pleasure</a> centers.</li><li><a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cayo-santiago-rhesus-macaque-monkeys-study-60-minutes-transcript/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Monkey Island is a real place called Cayo</a> off the coast of Puerto Rico&nbsp; or <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_Island" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a video game</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Here’s an amazing dissection of a microtrope beloved by Mary Balogh: <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/RomanceBooks/comments/1iz47s6/stern_men_who_cant_stop_skinny_dipping_an/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">stern men who can’t stop skinny dipping.</a></li><li>If you are in Brooklyn this week, <a href="https://www.therippedbodice.com/brooklyn-events" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">stop by on Thursday November 13, 2025 to see Sarah and several other authors from the Ladies in Waiting collection.&nbsp;</a></li></ul><br/><h2>Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4nLle2t" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Her Naughty Holiday</a> by Tiffany Reisz</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4qVqnYG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Billionaire’s Bargain</a> by Naima Simone</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47CO7cx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Beast Prince</a> by Marian Perera</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4qV6pNy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lothaire</a> by Kresley Cole</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4p5eFJh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lord of Scoundrels</a> by Loretta Chase</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4nRpBci" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Bride</a> by Julie Garwood</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43mnYw6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mafia Mistress</a> by Mila Finelli</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3WSqE0J" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mister O</a> by Lauren Blakeley</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4oYrdSy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Son of the Morning</a> by Akwaeke Emezi</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3JOWSXC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gentle Rogue</a> by Johanna Lindsey</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/49fhOlc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Redemption</a> by Nikki Sloane</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4p334u5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Funny Feelings</a> by Tarah DeWitt</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4i0bJLM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hellfire Riders: Jack and Lily</a> by Kati Wilde</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/49NLbuV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tempest</a> by Beverly Jenkins</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4oX06qU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mountain Boss</a> by SJ Tilly</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3JJbzvy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Beautiful Sinner</a> by Sophie Jordan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43UQmFE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Hostage Bargain</a> by Annika Martin</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4p8u6jZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hans</a> by SJ Tilly</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43Z37Pp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Streams and Schemes</a> by Rebecca Kinkade</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hUavRS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Puck Me Secretly</a> by Odette Stone</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/49f5KAm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kiss an Angel</a> by Susan Elizabeth Phillips</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4oDILDU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heated Rivalry</a> by Rachel Reid</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3LrGUDx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lead</a> by Kylie Scott</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47KWjaN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Oops Baby for the Mafia Boss</a> by Evie Rose</li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Lily Riley</strong>, author of <em>Phoenix's Last Heist</em>, available in print and ebook at <a href="https://amzn.to/3LVfYvP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a> or with <a href="https://amzn.to/4nP5kEo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Lumi Gummies</strong>. Go to <a href="https://lumigummies.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lumigummies.com</a> and use code FATEDMATES for 30% off your order.</li><li><strong>Kylie Scott</strong>, author of<strong> </strong><em>So My Ex-Boyfriend is a Serial Killer</em>, available in print, ebook and audio at <a href="https://amzn.to/4nQrje6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/so-my-ex-boyfriend-is-a-serial-killer-kylie-scott/1147362519?ean=2940184587004" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/so-my-ex-boyfriend-is-a-serial-killer?sId=178f3ba5-8a96-4326-882f-3561960048b1&amp;ssId=G6nKo0lURndtOgu0OBpcT&amp;cPos=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/so-my-ex-boyfriend-is-a-serial-killer/id6745310701" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780648457411" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/11/10/s0809-our-favorite-romance-microtropes </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/11/10/s0809-our-favorite-romance-microtropes]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">b589eff2-5f95-421c-968c-9cf923d17ab7</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2025 00:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/b589eff2-5f95-421c-968c-9cf923d17ab7.mp3" length="84246635" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:27:03</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>8</itunes:season><itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>9</podcast:episode><podcast:season>8</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-b17f66e4-05d6-494b-8f97-1702d4928af7.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S08.08: Romance Short Stories and the Ladies in Waiting Anthology</title><itunes:title>Romance Short Stories and the Ladies in Waiting Anthology</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We definitely have a hope became reality hangover this morning, but we also have a very fun episode for you today! We're talking romance shorts -- not novellas, not short novels, but actual short stories under 15,000 words (or about 50 pages). We talk about why this is such a difficult goal to hit, about why romance lends itself to longer formats, and about why short fiction is a really great way to keep reading when things feel chaotic.</p><p>We also chat about Sarah's new short story, a part of the <em>Ladies in Waiting</em> anthology, out this week and providing minor characters from Jane Austen their own happily ever afters. Sarah is joined by romance greats Diana Quincy, Nikki Payne and Eloisa James, among others. Get the collection at <a href="https://amzn.to/43TAAe5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/ladies-in-waiting-adriana-trigiani/1147742359" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/ladies-in-waiting-23?sId=a2423559-3cef-497c-890e-6e18c7a99281&amp;ssId=W2Ih2GkYV-TyxWq_pcZE9&amp;cPos=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/ladies-in-waiting/id6741777178" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781668204177" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>. </p><p>Also, we want to take a moment to send enormous thanks to everyone who donated to the <a href="https://www.fatedmates.net/givingcircle" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated States Giving Circle</a> at The States Project this year — those donations were gamechangers — last night we expanded our majority in the VA House, and secured a Democratic Trifecta in Virginia! As ever, we’re so proud to stand and fight with you!</p><p>If you'd like more romance chat in your life, please consider joining our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! There, magnificent firebirds hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>Our next read along will be KJ Charles's <em>The Magpie Lord</em>. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/47A8pSx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-magpie-lord-kj-charles/1115084899?ean=9781999784614" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-magpie-lord-2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-magpie-lord/id1310204196" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781999784614" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</p><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>The <em>Ladies in Waiting</em> anthology was released this week, and in the anthology, authors wrote HEAs for minor Austen characters. Sarah wrote about Miss Bates from <em>Emma</em>. Sarah has a few short stories: <a href="https://amzn.to/49zkU3h" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Bladesmith Queen</em></a><em>, </em>a Medieval short available with her newsletter signup; "Fire That Lasts," and a YA short  in the <a href="https://amzn.to/47A5GbS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Generation Wonder</em></a> anthology. The duke who has a sheep is in a novella called <a href="https://amzn.to/47GBbB0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>A Duke Worth Falling For</em></a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Sarah <a href="https://www.threads.com/@sarahmaclean/post/DODMm2-DmzE?xmt=AQF0iGQrlgyEeqcvKC0X6jrtDaQm-kdEdnyEgn8vYgJXjA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">asked Threads for recs of romance short stories</a> and that’s where many of these stories came from, but there are many more we didn’t get to. <a href="https://www.threads.com/@sarahmaclean/post/DODMm2-DmzE?xmt=AQF0iGQrlgyEeqcvKC0X6jrtDaQm-kdEdnyEgn8vYgJXjA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">So check it out.</a></li><li>There are lots of news articles and <a href="https://musgrave.substack.com/p/a-post-literate-society-is-a-too" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">independent essays</a> about why <a href="https://www.npr.org/2025/02/20/nx-s1-5298185/americans-are-reading-fewer-books-for-less-time-people-want-to-know-why" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">people are reading less</a>, <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2024/11/the-elite-college-students-who-cant-read-books/679945/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">college kids are reading less</a>, and <a href="https://slate.com/culture/2024/05/kids-reading-fun-books-decline-by-nine-crisis.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">children are reading less</a>, But also, the decline of reading has been something <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/why-we-dont-read-revisited" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">we’ve been talking about for years</a>.</li><li>Check out the <a href="https://readmeromance.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Read Me Romance podcast</a> and Audible Originals for other pieces of original short fiction. </li></ul><br/><h2>Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/493Jlps" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ladies in Waiting: Jane Austen’s Unsung Characters</a></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3LouoV8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">No Taste Like Home</a>  by Nisha Sharma&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4onArI6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Falling for Nola</a> by Katie Reus</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4op8Zdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">His Duchess’s Lovers</a> series by Elizabeth Roubaix</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4qJdIYG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Give it To Me</a> by Angelina M Lopez</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4oOlBdt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hands on Learning</a> by Maggie Eliot&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4oHD5c9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Remedy for a Rake</a> by Ginny Moore</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4oHD5c9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Worst Possible Thing</a> by Melissa Kendall</li><li><a href="https://www.caradion.com/bonus-content" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">While it Was Storming</a> by Cara Dion</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3WF5uTB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Greymere Cliffs</a> by Anne Knight</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47UHuSO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Books &amp; Broadswords</a> by Jessie Mihalik</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4qFYJ1w" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cynders &amp; Ashe</a> by Elizabeth Boyle&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47WxRmG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Splash Me</a> by Laura Lovely</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4nC2jqE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Whispers of Love</a> by Jayashree Gopal</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4nC2jqE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ten Things I Loathe About You</a> by Leslie Vollard</li><li>The <a href="https://amzn.to/3Xd35Qd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spicy Bites</a> anthologies</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ovi6ZY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Bladesmith Queen </a>by Sarah MacLean</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hJgj0J" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fire that Lasts</a> by Sarah MacLean</li></ul><br/><h2><strong>Sponsors</strong></h2><ul><li><strong>Blue Box Press, publishers of Jennifer L. Armentrout's</strong> <em>Official Blood and Ash Coloring Book</em>, available in print at <a href="https://amzn.to/47qgUku" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-official-blood-and-ash-coloring-book-jennifer-l-armentrout/1147836792?ean=9781963135749" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781963135749" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Avon Books, publishers of Sasha Laurens's </strong><em>When I Picture You</em>, available in print, ebook and audio at <a href="https://amzn.to/4nGH0o9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/when-i-picture-you-sasha-laurens/1146465819?ean=9780063429116" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/when-i-picture-you-1?sId=b5624829-2540-4d77-9f2a-4f1b4464d8e9&amp;ssId=eLIiEeYs4xOgSzYhtRRBH&amp;cPos=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/when-i-picture-you/id6741103668" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063429116" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>William Morrow, publishers of Akwaeke Emezi's </strong><em>Son of the Morning</em>, available in print, ebook and audio at <a href="https://amzn.to/3XdqTU6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/son-of-the-morning-akwaeke-emezi/1146925307?ean=9780063323186" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/son-of-the-morning-13?sId=db1d83fe-36c1-4b59-ad35-1de1f2dac200&amp;ssId=gkrc_1x4o827qWhqsOpLh&amp;cPos=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/son-of-the-morning/id6741470628" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, with your <a href="https://amzn.to/4nKaFwF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">monthly...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We definitely have a hope became reality hangover this morning, but we also have a very fun episode for you today! We're talking romance shorts -- not novellas, not short novels, but actual short stories under 15,000 words (or about 50 pages). We talk about why this is such a difficult goal to hit, about why romance lends itself to longer formats, and about why short fiction is a really great way to keep reading when things feel chaotic.</p><p>We also chat about Sarah's new short story, a part of the <em>Ladies in Waiting</em> anthology, out this week and providing minor characters from Jane Austen their own happily ever afters. Sarah is joined by romance greats Diana Quincy, Nikki Payne and Eloisa James, among others. Get the collection at <a href="https://amzn.to/43TAAe5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/ladies-in-waiting-adriana-trigiani/1147742359" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/ladies-in-waiting-23?sId=a2423559-3cef-497c-890e-6e18c7a99281&amp;ssId=W2Ih2GkYV-TyxWq_pcZE9&amp;cPos=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/ladies-in-waiting/id6741777178" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781668204177" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>. </p><p>Also, we want to take a moment to send enormous thanks to everyone who donated to the <a href="https://www.fatedmates.net/givingcircle" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated States Giving Circle</a> at The States Project this year — those donations were gamechangers — last night we expanded our majority in the VA House, and secured a Democratic Trifecta in Virginia! As ever, we’re so proud to stand and fight with you!</p><p>If you'd like more romance chat in your life, please consider joining our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! There, magnificent firebirds hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>Our next read along will be KJ Charles's <em>The Magpie Lord</em>. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/47A8pSx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-magpie-lord-kj-charles/1115084899?ean=9781999784614" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-magpie-lord-2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-magpie-lord/id1310204196" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781999784614" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</p><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>The <em>Ladies in Waiting</em> anthology was released this week, and in the anthology, authors wrote HEAs for minor Austen characters. Sarah wrote about Miss Bates from <em>Emma</em>. Sarah has a few short stories: <a href="https://amzn.to/49zkU3h" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Bladesmith Queen</em></a><em>, </em>a Medieval short available with her newsletter signup; "Fire That Lasts," and a YA short  in the <a href="https://amzn.to/47A5GbS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Generation Wonder</em></a> anthology. The duke who has a sheep is in a novella called <a href="https://amzn.to/47GBbB0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>A Duke Worth Falling For</em></a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Sarah <a href="https://www.threads.com/@sarahmaclean/post/DODMm2-DmzE?xmt=AQF0iGQrlgyEeqcvKC0X6jrtDaQm-kdEdnyEgn8vYgJXjA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">asked Threads for recs of romance short stories</a> and that’s where many of these stories came from, but there are many more we didn’t get to. <a href="https://www.threads.com/@sarahmaclean/post/DODMm2-DmzE?xmt=AQF0iGQrlgyEeqcvKC0X6jrtDaQm-kdEdnyEgn8vYgJXjA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">So check it out.</a></li><li>There are lots of news articles and <a href="https://musgrave.substack.com/p/a-post-literate-society-is-a-too" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">independent essays</a> about why <a href="https://www.npr.org/2025/02/20/nx-s1-5298185/americans-are-reading-fewer-books-for-less-time-people-want-to-know-why" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">people are reading less</a>, <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2024/11/the-elite-college-students-who-cant-read-books/679945/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">college kids are reading less</a>, and <a href="https://slate.com/culture/2024/05/kids-reading-fun-books-decline-by-nine-crisis.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">children are reading less</a>, But also, the decline of reading has been something <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/why-we-dont-read-revisited" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">we’ve been talking about for years</a>.</li><li>Check out the <a href="https://readmeromance.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Read Me Romance podcast</a> and Audible Originals for other pieces of original short fiction. </li></ul><br/><h2>Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/493Jlps" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ladies in Waiting: Jane Austen’s Unsung Characters</a></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3LouoV8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">No Taste Like Home</a>  by Nisha Sharma&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4onArI6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Falling for Nola</a> by Katie Reus</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4op8Zdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">His Duchess’s Lovers</a> series by Elizabeth Roubaix</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4qJdIYG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Give it To Me</a> by Angelina M Lopez</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4oOlBdt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hands on Learning</a> by Maggie Eliot&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4oHD5c9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Remedy for a Rake</a> by Ginny Moore</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4oHD5c9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Worst Possible Thing</a> by Melissa Kendall</li><li><a href="https://www.caradion.com/bonus-content" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">While it Was Storming</a> by Cara Dion</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3WF5uTB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Greymere Cliffs</a> by Anne Knight</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47UHuSO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Books &amp; Broadswords</a> by Jessie Mihalik</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4qFYJ1w" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cynders &amp; Ashe</a> by Elizabeth Boyle&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47WxRmG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Splash Me</a> by Laura Lovely</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4nC2jqE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Whispers of Love</a> by Jayashree Gopal</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4nC2jqE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ten Things I Loathe About You</a> by Leslie Vollard</li><li>The <a href="https://amzn.to/3Xd35Qd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spicy Bites</a> anthologies</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ovi6ZY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Bladesmith Queen </a>by Sarah MacLean</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hJgj0J" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fire that Lasts</a> by Sarah MacLean</li></ul><br/><h2><strong>Sponsors</strong></h2><ul><li><strong>Blue Box Press, publishers of Jennifer L. Armentrout's</strong> <em>Official Blood and Ash Coloring Book</em>, available in print at <a href="https://amzn.to/47qgUku" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-official-blood-and-ash-coloring-book-jennifer-l-armentrout/1147836792?ean=9781963135749" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781963135749" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Avon Books, publishers of Sasha Laurens's </strong><em>When I Picture You</em>, available in print, ebook and audio at <a href="https://amzn.to/4nGH0o9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/when-i-picture-you-sasha-laurens/1146465819?ean=9780063429116" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/when-i-picture-you-1?sId=b5624829-2540-4d77-9f2a-4f1b4464d8e9&amp;ssId=eLIiEeYs4xOgSzYhtRRBH&amp;cPos=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/when-i-picture-you/id6741103668" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063429116" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>William Morrow, publishers of Akwaeke Emezi's </strong><em>Son of the Morning</em>, available in print, ebook and audio at <a href="https://amzn.to/3XdqTU6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/son-of-the-morning-akwaeke-emezi/1146925307?ean=9780063323186" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/son-of-the-morning-13?sId=db1d83fe-36c1-4b59-ad35-1de1f2dac200&amp;ssId=gkrc_1x4o827qWhqsOpLh&amp;cPos=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/son-of-the-morning/id6741470628" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, with your <a href="https://amzn.to/4nKaFwF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063323186" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>The What in the Smut Podcast</strong>, <a href="https://rss.com/podcasts/what-in-the-smut-podcast/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">available wherever you get your podcasts</a>. </li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/11/4/0808-the-ladies-in-waiting-anthology-and-other-romance-short-stories </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/11/4/0808-the-ladies-in-waiting-anthology-and-other-romance-short-stories]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5858dccb-b1ae-44e0-b7e1-69b408d5d2a8</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2025 00:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/5858dccb-b1ae-44e0-b7e1-69b408d5d2a8.mp3" length="125234613" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>02:10:01</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>8</itunes:season><itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>8</podcast:episode><podcast:season>8</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-fd679756-a1ce-4107-b706-7601a0140b84.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S08.07: Romance Demons: Problématique (Italics)</title><itunes:title>Romance Demons: Problématique (Italics)</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It's Halloween which means we're talking about monsters (complimentary)! We've done devils and witches and an entire season on monsters of all ilk, but we haven't done demons yet, and so here we are! Come one come all as Sarah confesses one of her weirdest (charming) kinks and we discuss the age-old adage: "If a demon's horns aren't sexual organs, why are they even there?" We're heading back to the early 00s on this one, so headphones in because who knows what we're going to talk about?! Definitely not us! </p><p>This week also marks our 7th anniversary, so we're feeling just a little emotional (grateful). Thank you for being with us, whether this is your first episode or your almost four hundredth. We love you. </p><p>If you'd like more romance chat in your life, please consider joining our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! There, magnificent firebirds hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.&nbsp;</p><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>We’ve done <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/10/26/s0708-i-see-dead-people-grief-amp-the-pandemic-in-romance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">some serious Halloween episodes</a> and also <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/10/24/s0607-happy-halloween-devils-in-romance-novels" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">some silly ones</a>. And all of season one was the Immortals After Dark series.&nbsp;</li><li>The <a href="https://www.thecollector.com/who-are-the-most-important-demons-in-the-bible/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">devil is just the most powerful demon in Christian mythology</a>, and apparently so are <a href="https://www.ancient-origins.net/myths-legends/incubi-and-succubi-crushing-nightmares-and-sex-craving-demons-part-i-006157" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">incubi and succubi</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/ng-interactive/2025/oct/14/risky-is-the-best-way-to-be-tim-curry-sexuality-surviving-stroke-50-years-stardom" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tim Curry</a> in <a href="https://admitonefilmaddict.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/wpid-legend2-1.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Legend</a> is actually nothing at all like <a href="https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5a70fa14e45a7c7dd2fadad0/1623374681633-T7NUGMF89F40TE3YVRVX/2021_labyrinth_4k_insta01_1080sq.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">David Bowie in Labyrinth</a>. </li></ul><br/><h2>Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/49kKuZN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sweet Ruin</a> by Kresley Cole</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47APvey" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hot as Hades</a> by Alisha Rai</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3J9ffXc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Succubus Blues</a> by Richelle Meade</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4qD0fBN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dealing with a Desperate Demon</a> by Charlotte Stein</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47sdxZ4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pleasure Unbound</a> by Larissa Ione</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42Zc3UF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">I Accidentally Summoned a Demon Boyfriend</a> by Jessica Cage</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/49qfN5r" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kiss of a Demon King</a> by Kresley Cole</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4htiS6O" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MacRieve</a> by Kresley Cole</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4nomAQw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Demon from the Dark</a> by Kresley Cole</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47L1S8M" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Rogue’s Proposal</a> by Stephanie Laurens</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3J87oJr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Witch’s Guide to Fake Dating a Demon</a> by Sarah Hawley</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3JpmaeS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Devil She Knows</a> by Alexandria Bellefleur</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47pFbFY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Demon Lover</a> by Heather Guerre</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4qt9VP2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dionysus in Wisconsin</a> by EH Lupton</li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>HarperCollins</strong>, publishers of N.E. Davenport's <em>Our Vicious Oaths</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook at <a href="https://amzn.to/47tGR1k" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/our-vicious-oaths-ne-davenport/1146896005" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/our-vicious-oaths-1?sId=7307b44c-cb31-44a9-8ee0-a6b7e6082a32&amp;ssId=Dbc7SRsmfKtw7rqQTwlyj&amp;cPos=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/our-vicious-oaths/id6741103609" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, with your <a href="https://amzn.to/47tGR1k" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063397781" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Rachel Runya Katz</strong>, author of <em>Isn't it Obvious</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook<em> </em>at <a href="https://amzn.to/3LykQqz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/isnt-it-obvious-rachel-runya-katz/1146657237?ean=9781250369970" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/isn-t-it-obvious-3?sId=8fa6c633-e6dd-4b63-b5eb-07da6d62a810&amp;ssId=_T0z9W3DSV_QSKe0IrILx&amp;cPos=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/isnt-it-obvious/id6741430529" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781250369970" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Zara Doyle</strong>, author of <em>Tori and her Wolf</em>, available in print, ebook, audiobook or with <a href="https://amzn.to/47duiIt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>. </li><li><strong>Jessica Thomas</strong>, author of <em>Dare Me, Ellie, </em>available in print, ebook or <a href="https://amzn.to/47L1dnY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's Halloween which means we're talking about monsters (complimentary)! We've done devils and witches and an entire season on monsters of all ilk, but we haven't done demons yet, and so here we are! Come one come all as Sarah confesses one of her weirdest (charming) kinks and we discuss the age-old adage: "If a demon's horns aren't sexual organs, why are they even there?" We're heading back to the early 00s on this one, so headphones in because who knows what we're going to talk about?! Definitely not us! </p><p>This week also marks our 7th anniversary, so we're feeling just a little emotional (grateful). Thank you for being with us, whether this is your first episode or your almost four hundredth. We love you. </p><p>If you'd like more romance chat in your life, please consider joining our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! There, magnificent firebirds hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.&nbsp;</p><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>We’ve done <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/10/26/s0708-i-see-dead-people-grief-amp-the-pandemic-in-romance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">some serious Halloween episodes</a> and also <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/10/24/s0607-happy-halloween-devils-in-romance-novels" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">some silly ones</a>. And all of season one was the Immortals After Dark series.&nbsp;</li><li>The <a href="https://www.thecollector.com/who-are-the-most-important-demons-in-the-bible/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">devil is just the most powerful demon in Christian mythology</a>, and apparently so are <a href="https://www.ancient-origins.net/myths-legends/incubi-and-succubi-crushing-nightmares-and-sex-craving-demons-part-i-006157" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">incubi and succubi</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/ng-interactive/2025/oct/14/risky-is-the-best-way-to-be-tim-curry-sexuality-surviving-stroke-50-years-stardom" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tim Curry</a> in <a href="https://admitonefilmaddict.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/wpid-legend2-1.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Legend</a> is actually nothing at all like <a href="https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5a70fa14e45a7c7dd2fadad0/1623374681633-T7NUGMF89F40TE3YVRVX/2021_labyrinth_4k_insta01_1080sq.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">David Bowie in Labyrinth</a>. </li></ul><br/><h2>Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/49kKuZN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sweet Ruin</a> by Kresley Cole</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47APvey" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hot as Hades</a> by Alisha Rai</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3J9ffXc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Succubus Blues</a> by Richelle Meade</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4qD0fBN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dealing with a Desperate Demon</a> by Charlotte Stein</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47sdxZ4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pleasure Unbound</a> by Larissa Ione</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42Zc3UF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">I Accidentally Summoned a Demon Boyfriend</a> by Jessica Cage</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/49qfN5r" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kiss of a Demon King</a> by Kresley Cole</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4htiS6O" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MacRieve</a> by Kresley Cole</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4nomAQw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Demon from the Dark</a> by Kresley Cole</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47L1S8M" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Rogue’s Proposal</a> by Stephanie Laurens</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3J87oJr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Witch’s Guide to Fake Dating a Demon</a> by Sarah Hawley</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3JpmaeS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Devil She Knows</a> by Alexandria Bellefleur</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47pFbFY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Demon Lover</a> by Heather Guerre</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4qt9VP2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dionysus in Wisconsin</a> by EH Lupton</li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>HarperCollins</strong>, publishers of N.E. Davenport's <em>Our Vicious Oaths</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook at <a href="https://amzn.to/47tGR1k" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/our-vicious-oaths-ne-davenport/1146896005" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/our-vicious-oaths-1?sId=7307b44c-cb31-44a9-8ee0-a6b7e6082a32&amp;ssId=Dbc7SRsmfKtw7rqQTwlyj&amp;cPos=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/our-vicious-oaths/id6741103609" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, with your <a href="https://amzn.to/47tGR1k" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063397781" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Rachel Runya Katz</strong>, author of <em>Isn't it Obvious</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook<em> </em>at <a href="https://amzn.to/3LykQqz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/isnt-it-obvious-rachel-runya-katz/1146657237?ean=9781250369970" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/isn-t-it-obvious-3?sId=8fa6c633-e6dd-4b63-b5eb-07da6d62a810&amp;ssId=_T0z9W3DSV_QSKe0IrILx&amp;cPos=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/isnt-it-obvious/id6741430529" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781250369970" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Zara Doyle</strong>, author of <em>Tori and her Wolf</em>, available in print, ebook, audiobook or with <a href="https://amzn.to/47duiIt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>. </li><li><strong>Jessica Thomas</strong>, author of <em>Dare Me, Ellie, </em>available in print, ebook or <a href="https://amzn.to/47L1dnY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/10/27/s0807-romance-demons-problmatique]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">c019a7fb-1755-4e13-affd-a3c6a3a935fd</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2025 00:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/c019a7fb-1755-4e13-affd-a3c6a3a935fd.mp3" length="79892979" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:23:13</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>8</itunes:season><itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>7</podcast:episode><podcast:season>8</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-a18c20fc-87dd-482c-86a2-784ffd799672.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S08.06: Gorilla Twins! The Earl Takes All by Lorraine Heath</title><itunes:title>Gorilla Twins! The Earl Takes All by Lorraine Heath</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It's Gorilla Twins Week! We couldn't be happier to be talking about <em>The Earl Takes All</em>, a book we love so much we gave it a nickname that all of Romancelandia uses now. Whether you're reading it for the first time or the fiftieth, we're so happy to have you. We talk about Jane Goodall, Romance Gorillas, Lorraine Heath's brilliant mind, how she's easily a top-five romance novelist and possibly the best of them when it comes to writing conflict, and just how much we love a bonkers historical. </p><p>If you'd like more romance chat in your life, please consider joining our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! There, magnificent firebirds hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.&nbsp; </p><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>It’s not too late to join the <a href="https://www.grapevine.org/giving-circle/wj6hgjQ/Fated-States" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Fated States Giving Circle</a>, 25 people who give in October will receive a copy of <a href="https://amzn.to/4nVtnCk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ladies in Waiting: Jane Austen's Unsung Characters</a>, featuring Sarah's novella about <em>Emma</em>'s Miss Bates.</li><li>This is our second Lorraine Heath deep dive episode, because she writes a banger. Listen to our deep dive of <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/2/11/s0223-waking-up-with-the-duke" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Waking Up With the Duke</a>. According to search, we’ve mentioned Gorilla Twins (aka <em>The Earl Takes All</em>) at least 34 times on the podcast. Sorry not sorry.</li><li>The hallmark movie <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt36789088/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adventures in Love &amp; Birding</a> is based on <a href="https://amzn.to/4nhrDlR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Birding with Benefits</a> by Sarah Dubb. Apparently the birding community has some feedback on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPrHwN1kXDe/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the bird situation</a> of the movie.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4nhrDlR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">It’s Romance Bird</a>! <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/5/9/s0338-ravishing-the-heiress-by-sherry-thomas" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">It’s Romance dormouse</a>! <a href="https://amzn.to/4o4owyX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">It’s Romance Pig</a>!&nbsp;</li><li>Rest in Peace <a href="https://youtu.be/lfLKHY52ERc?si=wH3S6ZboWhYP_gg7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jane Goodall</a>. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famous_Last_Words_(TV_series)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Famous Last Words</a> is a show where you get to leave your burn book, and Jane Goodall’s was the first episode. Our episodes will be 100 hours each, so plan accordingly.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.si.edu/spotlight/antibody-initiative/influenza" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The history of influenza</a>. <a href="https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vaccines work</a>. <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/health/cold-and-flu/flu-season-us-vaccine-2025-cdc-influenza-shot-what-know-rcna238255" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Go get a flu shot</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Some <a href="https://amzn.to/3WgwuZq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">more information about mountain gorillas</a>. <a href="https://gorillas.org/about-gorillas/mountain-gorilla/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">JK.</a>&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://groundhog-apricot-gbcy.squarespace.com/episodes/2019/6/27/16-sweet-ruin" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">It’s Rune Week!</a> </li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Charis Michaels,</strong> author of <em>Claiming the Princess</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook at <a href="https://amzn.to/3LnfdeL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/claiming-the-princess-charis-michaels/1146602464" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/claiming-the-princess-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/claiming-the-princess/id6738694284" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063280175" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Elizabeth Roubaix</strong>, author of the <em>His Duchess's Lovers</em> collection, available in ebook or<em> </em><a href="https://amzn.to/4ncUmZ7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Sotto Voce Scents</strong>. Go to <a href="https://sottovocescents.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sottovocescents.com</a> and use code FATEDMATES2025 for 25% off your order.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/10/21/0806-the-earl-takes-all-by-lorraine-heath-gorilla-twins </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's Gorilla Twins Week! We couldn't be happier to be talking about <em>The Earl Takes All</em>, a book we love so much we gave it a nickname that all of Romancelandia uses now. Whether you're reading it for the first time or the fiftieth, we're so happy to have you. We talk about Jane Goodall, Romance Gorillas, Lorraine Heath's brilliant mind, how she's easily a top-five romance novelist and possibly the best of them when it comes to writing conflict, and just how much we love a bonkers historical. </p><p>If you'd like more romance chat in your life, please consider joining our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! There, magnificent firebirds hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.&nbsp; </p><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>It’s not too late to join the <a href="https://www.grapevine.org/giving-circle/wj6hgjQ/Fated-States" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Fated States Giving Circle</a>, 25 people who give in October will receive a copy of <a href="https://amzn.to/4nVtnCk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ladies in Waiting: Jane Austen's Unsung Characters</a>, featuring Sarah's novella about <em>Emma</em>'s Miss Bates.</li><li>This is our second Lorraine Heath deep dive episode, because she writes a banger. Listen to our deep dive of <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/2/11/s0223-waking-up-with-the-duke" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Waking Up With the Duke</a>. According to search, we’ve mentioned Gorilla Twins (aka <em>The Earl Takes All</em>) at least 34 times on the podcast. Sorry not sorry.</li><li>The hallmark movie <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt36789088/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adventures in Love &amp; Birding</a> is based on <a href="https://amzn.to/4nhrDlR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Birding with Benefits</a> by Sarah Dubb. Apparently the birding community has some feedback on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPrHwN1kXDe/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the bird situation</a> of the movie.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4nhrDlR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">It’s Romance Bird</a>! <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/5/9/s0338-ravishing-the-heiress-by-sherry-thomas" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">It’s Romance dormouse</a>! <a href="https://amzn.to/4o4owyX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">It’s Romance Pig</a>!&nbsp;</li><li>Rest in Peace <a href="https://youtu.be/lfLKHY52ERc?si=wH3S6ZboWhYP_gg7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jane Goodall</a>. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famous_Last_Words_(TV_series)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Famous Last Words</a> is a show where you get to leave your burn book, and Jane Goodall’s was the first episode. Our episodes will be 100 hours each, so plan accordingly.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.si.edu/spotlight/antibody-initiative/influenza" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The history of influenza</a>. <a href="https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vaccines work</a>. <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/health/cold-and-flu/flu-season-us-vaccine-2025-cdc-influenza-shot-what-know-rcna238255" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Go get a flu shot</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Some <a href="https://amzn.to/3WgwuZq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">more information about mountain gorillas</a>. <a href="https://gorillas.org/about-gorillas/mountain-gorilla/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">JK.</a>&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://groundhog-apricot-gbcy.squarespace.com/episodes/2019/6/27/16-sweet-ruin" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">It’s Rune Week!</a> </li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Charis Michaels,</strong> author of <em>Claiming the Princess</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook at <a href="https://amzn.to/3LnfdeL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/claiming-the-princess-charis-michaels/1146602464" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/claiming-the-princess-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/claiming-the-princess/id6738694284" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063280175" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Elizabeth Roubaix</strong>, author of the <em>His Duchess's Lovers</em> collection, available in ebook or<em> </em><a href="https://amzn.to/4ncUmZ7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Sotto Voce Scents</strong>. Go to <a href="https://sottovocescents.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sottovocescents.com</a> and use code FATEDMATES2025 for 25% off your order.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/10/21/0806-the-earl-takes-all-by-lorraine-heath-gorilla-twins </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/10/21/0806-the-earl-takes-all-by-lorraine-heath-gorilla-twins]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">820d3a2e-f88d-463c-9564-7258d9ed517f</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2025 00:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/820d3a2e-f88d-463c-9564-7258d9ed517f.mp3" length="79420578" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:22:44</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>8</itunes:season><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>6</podcast:episode><podcast:season>8</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-44dd37fb-1c54-47d3-bbbf-e7c657d99762.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S08.05: Governesses with Louisa Darling</title><itunes:title>Governesses with Louisa Darling</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>How is it possible we've never done a governess episode? And how is it possible Louisa Darling hasn't been a guest on the pod yet? We're rectifying both of these injustices this week. We talk about Jane Eyre, The Sound of Music and other primordial governesses, and discuss exactly what kind of buttons these books installed--almost entirely thanks to old school historicals. We also talk about how governess books are some of the only books in which we will suffer a child, and yes, we shout out the nannies, too!</p><p>Louisa Darling is the pen name of Louisa Edwards and Lily Everett, and the author of <a href="https://amzn.to/495phCZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Don’t Let Your Dukes Grow Up to be Scoundrels</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/4h9f9eJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Where Have All the Scoundrels Gone</a>,  and <a href="https://amzn.to/47o27q9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scoundrel, Take Me Away</a>.</p><p>Our next read along is Gorilla Twins, AKA Lorraine Heath's <em>The Earl Takes All</em>. Find it at <a href="https://amzn.to/4nGdIqk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-earl-takes-all-lorraine-heath/1122449719" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-earl-takes-all?srsltid=AfmBOop2BTwKi5j-_bd6OFY1DYvyq9bDFW2d7gkBml-9hKxI06mFjeJr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-earl-takes-all/id1027502882" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780062391032" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>. </p><p>If you'd like more romance chat in your life, please consider joining our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! There, magnificent firebirds hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.&nbsp;</p><p><span class="ql-size-small">(Apologies for the subpar audio quality.)</span></p><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>Learn more about The States Project and <a href="https://www.grapevine.org/giving-circle/wj6hgjQ/Fated-Mates-Giving-Circle" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">donate to the Fated States Giving Circle</a> to keep Virginia blue this November.</li><li>Welcome historical author <a href="https://louisadarling.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Louisa Darling</a>. She’s written contemporary romance as Louisa Edwards and women’s fiction as Lily Everett. She imprinted on Jayne Eyre and worked as an editorial assistant for <a href="https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/newsbrief/index.html?record=802" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Leslie Gelbman at Berkley</a>, who edited Nora Roberts and Jayne Ann Krentz.</li><li>Maybe all those early governess books were really about <a href="https://youtu.be/ekyURclrK60?si=HeUmjduVY06qOvXD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Sound of Music</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>We talked about <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/10/14/s0706-the-truth-about-him-duology" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Molly O’Keefe series that included Wait For It</a> in season 7, and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/7/6/s0244-freewheeling-with-kennedy-ryan" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">about Vanessa Riley and wet nurses when we had Kennedy Ryan on</a> in season 2.&nbsp;</li><li>Finally, <a href="https://amzn.to/48eBBOQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">our next deep dive will be Gorilla Twins</a>. The actual title, of course, is The Earl Takes All by Lorraine Heath.</li></ul><br/><h2>The Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/495phCZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Don’t Let Your Dukes Grow Up to be Scoundrels</a> by Louisa Darling</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4h9f9eJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Where Have All the Scoundrels Gone</a> by Louisa Darling</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47o27q9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scoundrel, Take Me Away</a> by Louisa Darling</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43giSRG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rules for a Proper Governess</a> by Jennifer Ashley</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46RDD8N" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Duke, the Lady, and a Baby</a> by Vanessa Riley</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42D03YK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Duke Who Ravished Me</a> by Diana Quincy</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4nLHNov" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Deception</a> by Amanda Quick</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3IWzJ5k" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Snowed In with the Viking</a> by Lucy Morris</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4olDlwF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sins of a Wicked Duke</a> by Sophie Jordan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/48nUukF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Game and the Governess</a> By Kate Noble</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3KQaja0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Lie and the Lady</a> by Kate Noble</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4nZ0pS7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Shadow and the Star</a> by Laura Kinsale&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hf708C" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Married by Morning</a> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3KMhGiN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">It Takes Two to Tumble</a> by Cat Sebastian</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/471JAPa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Nanny is Off Limits</a> by QB Tyler</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4omx83K" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rafe</a> by Rebekah Weatherspoon</li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Harpercollins,</strong> publishers of Lindsay Kelk's <em>Christmas Fling</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook at <a href="https://amzn.to/4npihVn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/christmas-fling-lindsey-kelk/1146536828?ean=9780008758745" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/christmas-fling-2?sId=548167ae-4307-4792-95e4-95b16aa05f93&amp;ssId=liQppU47dZ7Dlp6YxbORc&amp;cPos=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/gb/book/christmas-fling/id6738833973" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780008758745" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Andie J. Christopher</strong>, author of <em>Faster</em>, available in print, ebook, audiobook,<em> </em><a href="https://amzn.to/3KT1fRG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781662533211" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Lumi Labs</strong>, creators of Lumi Gummies. Go to <a href="https://lumigummies.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lumigummies.com</a> and use code FATEDMATES for 30% off your order.</li><li><strong>Katherine Grant</strong>, author of <em>The Widower Without a Will</em>, available at <a href="https://amzn.to/3KT1kEY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-widower-without-a-will-katherine-grant/1148117196?ean=2940184337951" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-widower-without-a-will?sId=e57142e8-9b48-4106-9d46-09e8ce681802&amp;ssId=jpq-1kx6Vh-hBkDFvOXhb&amp;cPos=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-widower-without-a-will/id6751550540" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9798990252288" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/10/14/s0805-governesses-with-louisa-darling </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is it possible we've never done a governess episode? And how is it possible Louisa Darling hasn't been a guest on the pod yet? We're rectifying both of these injustices this week. We talk about Jane Eyre, The Sound of Music and other primordial governesses, and discuss exactly what kind of buttons these books installed--almost entirely thanks to old school historicals. We also talk about how governess books are some of the only books in which we will suffer a child, and yes, we shout out the nannies, too!</p><p>Louisa Darling is the pen name of Louisa Edwards and Lily Everett, and the author of <a href="https://amzn.to/495phCZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Don’t Let Your Dukes Grow Up to be Scoundrels</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/4h9f9eJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Where Have All the Scoundrels Gone</a>,  and <a href="https://amzn.to/47o27q9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scoundrel, Take Me Away</a>.</p><p>Our next read along is Gorilla Twins, AKA Lorraine Heath's <em>The Earl Takes All</em>. Find it at <a href="https://amzn.to/4nGdIqk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-earl-takes-all-lorraine-heath/1122449719" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-earl-takes-all?srsltid=AfmBOop2BTwKi5j-_bd6OFY1DYvyq9bDFW2d7gkBml-9hKxI06mFjeJr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-earl-takes-all/id1027502882" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780062391032" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>. </p><p>If you'd like more romance chat in your life, please consider joining our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! There, magnificent firebirds hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.&nbsp;</p><p><span class="ql-size-small">(Apologies for the subpar audio quality.)</span></p><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>Learn more about The States Project and <a href="https://www.grapevine.org/giving-circle/wj6hgjQ/Fated-Mates-Giving-Circle" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">donate to the Fated States Giving Circle</a> to keep Virginia blue this November.</li><li>Welcome historical author <a href="https://louisadarling.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Louisa Darling</a>. She’s written contemporary romance as Louisa Edwards and women’s fiction as Lily Everett. She imprinted on Jayne Eyre and worked as an editorial assistant for <a href="https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/newsbrief/index.html?record=802" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Leslie Gelbman at Berkley</a>, who edited Nora Roberts and Jayne Ann Krentz.</li><li>Maybe all those early governess books were really about <a href="https://youtu.be/ekyURclrK60?si=HeUmjduVY06qOvXD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Sound of Music</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>We talked about <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/10/14/s0706-the-truth-about-him-duology" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Molly O’Keefe series that included Wait For It</a> in season 7, and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/7/6/s0244-freewheeling-with-kennedy-ryan" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">about Vanessa Riley and wet nurses when we had Kennedy Ryan on</a> in season 2.&nbsp;</li><li>Finally, <a href="https://amzn.to/48eBBOQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">our next deep dive will be Gorilla Twins</a>. The actual title, of course, is The Earl Takes All by Lorraine Heath.</li></ul><br/><h2>The Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/495phCZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Don’t Let Your Dukes Grow Up to be Scoundrels</a> by Louisa Darling</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4h9f9eJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Where Have All the Scoundrels Gone</a> by Louisa Darling</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47o27q9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scoundrel, Take Me Away</a> by Louisa Darling</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43giSRG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rules for a Proper Governess</a> by Jennifer Ashley</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46RDD8N" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Duke, the Lady, and a Baby</a> by Vanessa Riley</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42D03YK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Duke Who Ravished Me</a> by Diana Quincy</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4nLHNov" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Deception</a> by Amanda Quick</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3IWzJ5k" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Snowed In with the Viking</a> by Lucy Morris</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4olDlwF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sins of a Wicked Duke</a> by Sophie Jordan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/48nUukF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Game and the Governess</a> By Kate Noble</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3KQaja0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Lie and the Lady</a> by Kate Noble</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4nZ0pS7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Shadow and the Star</a> by Laura Kinsale&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hf708C" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Married by Morning</a> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3KMhGiN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">It Takes Two to Tumble</a> by Cat Sebastian</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/471JAPa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Nanny is Off Limits</a> by QB Tyler</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4omx83K" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rafe</a> by Rebekah Weatherspoon</li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Harpercollins,</strong> publishers of Lindsay Kelk's <em>Christmas Fling</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook at <a href="https://amzn.to/4npihVn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/christmas-fling-lindsey-kelk/1146536828?ean=9780008758745" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/christmas-fling-2?sId=548167ae-4307-4792-95e4-95b16aa05f93&amp;ssId=liQppU47dZ7Dlp6YxbORc&amp;cPos=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/gb/book/christmas-fling/id6738833973" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780008758745" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Andie J. Christopher</strong>, author of <em>Faster</em>, available in print, ebook, audiobook,<em> </em><a href="https://amzn.to/3KT1fRG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781662533211" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Lumi Labs</strong>, creators of Lumi Gummies. Go to <a href="https://lumigummies.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lumigummies.com</a> and use code FATEDMATES for 30% off your order.</li><li><strong>Katherine Grant</strong>, author of <em>The Widower Without a Will</em>, available at <a href="https://amzn.to/3KT1kEY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-widower-without-a-will-katherine-grant/1148117196?ean=2940184337951" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-widower-without-a-will?sId=e57142e8-9b48-4106-9d46-09e8ce681802&amp;ssId=jpq-1kx6Vh-hBkDFvOXhb&amp;cPos=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-widower-without-a-will/id6751550540" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9798990252288" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/10/14/s0805-governesses-with-louisa-darling </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/10/14/s0805-governesses-with-louisa-darling]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">524af776-ad54-4c46-a9fc-b2475a738a54</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2025 00:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/524af776-ad54-4c46-a9fc-b2475a738a54.mp3" length="99455740" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:43:36</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>8</itunes:season><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>5</podcast:episode><podcast:season>8</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-2acd535c-d09a-4c5d-8747-aa43e11128ad.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S08.04 We love you Chicago, DC and LA</title><itunes:title>We love you Chicago, DC and LA</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We're thinking about Chicago, DC, and LA this week, and standing in solidarity with the people living and resisting in those cities. While reading isn't action, it can supplement it, and keep us joyful as we do the hard work of standing up. To that end, this week, we're recommending books that feature Chicago, Washington, DC &amp; Los Angeles as settings. We're also sharing resources and ways you can stay informed, help communities of immigrants, and get involved in whatever way possible. </p><p>Note: We recorded this episode just as the National Guard was sent to Portland, Oregon, which is why Portland-set romances are not included in this episode. Please feel free to share your favorite romances set there in comments or on social media. Tag us so we can share!</p><p>Our next read along is Gorilla Twins, AKA Lorraine Heath's <em>The Earl Takes All</em>. Find it at <a href="https://amzn.to/4nGdIqk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-earl-takes-all-lorraine-heath/1122449719" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-earl-takes-all?srsltid=AfmBOop2BTwKi5j-_bd6OFY1DYvyq9bDFW2d7gkBml-9hKxI06mFjeJr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-earl-takes-all/id1027502882" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780062391032" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>. </p><p>If you'd like more romance chat in your life, please consider joining our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! There, magnificent firebirds hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.&nbsp;</p><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li>Learn more about <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20230725130539/https://www.texasmonthly.com/arts-entertainment/ramon-ayala-accordion-king/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ramón Ayala, the King of the Accordion.</a></li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/gBramuE01N0?si=EZBnGSKzezxckTJp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">There goes your social life.&nbsp;</a></li><li>It's too late to go to <a href="https://goteborg-bookfair.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Gothenburg Book Festival</a> this year, but there’s always next year. One of the first internationally known Swedish romance writers is <a href="https://www.salomonssonagency.se/simona-ahrnstedt/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Simona Ahrnstedt.</a> <a href="https://www.scandinaviastandard.com/scandi-six-crime-writers-of-scandinavia/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Crime fiction is a big deal in Sweden</a>, and Sarah met <a href="https://camillalackberg.se/en/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Camilla Läckberg</a> and <a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/authors/Anders-de-la-Motte/408080958" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Anders de la Motte</a>.</li><li><a href="https://truthout.org/articles/trump-is-releasing-the-full-force-of-federal-police-on-chicago/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Terrible awful things</a> happening <a href="https://chicago.suntimes.com/immigration/2025/10/01/massive-immigration-raid-on-chicago-apartment-building-leaves-residents-reeling-i-feel-defeated" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">in Chicago</a>, <a href="https://calmatters.org/justice/2025/08/la-immigration-raids-empty-spaces/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Los Angeles</a>, <a href="https://19thnews.org/2025/09/child-care-workers-ice-dc-immigration/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Washington DC</a>, and <a href="https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/protests/protest-portland-trump-national-guard-deployment/283-a833a647-1631-4e40-ba34-82b58ee72086" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Portland</a>. Many of these raids are apparently being filmed to make propaganda for the regime.&nbsp;</li><li>Support local, independent news organizations in your town. This is how you can find out information about what is going on across the country. You might start by checking out: <a href="https://unraveledpress.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Unraveled Press</a>, <a href="https://blockclubchicago.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Block Club Chicago</a>, <a href="https://thetriibe.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Triibe</a>, <a href="https://lataco.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LA Taco,</a> <a href="https://www.wbez.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">WBEZ chicago</a> or your local NPR station, The <a href="https://chicago.suntimes.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chicago Sun-Times</a>. </li><li>You should also find local organizations that do work you care about and find a way to support them. In Chicago, for example, two vital organizations are <a href="https://www.bravespacealliance.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Brave Space Alliance</a> and <a href="https://www.thelovefridge.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Love Fridge</a>. And, find out who is supporting immigrants where you live and find out what they need and how you can support their work. For example, <a href="https://www.icirr.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Illinois Coalition for Immigrant and Refugee Rights</a> in Illinois, and <a href="https://www.chirla.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CHIRLA, The Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights in LA.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/DA1LrwySawD/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&amp;igsh=MWpxdHM2cHFzZTVzZw==" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Find a local Latinx-owned bookstore</a> near you by using this list from the Latinos In Publishing account.&nbsp; Here's <a href="https://www.latimes.com/delos/list/10-latino-owned-bookstores-and-comic-shops" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a list of Latinx bookstores in LA</a> if you're looking there.</li><li>The <a href="https://www.chicagonorthromancewriters.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chicago North Romance Writers</a> hosts a writing conference called Spring Fling, it’s happening in April of 2026. Some of the great people Jen has met from the group or around town at local romance events: Pamala Knight, Shannyn Schroeder, Kelly Farmer, Victoria Hamel, Kathy Douglass, and Chandra Blumberg.&nbsp;</li><li>Find other people in your community who are working to fight authoritarianism and tyranny at <a href="https://mobilize.us" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mobilize</a>. </li><li>Not sure how to contact your reps? Try using <a href="https://5calls.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">5 Calls</a> and <a href="https://resist.bot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Resistbot</a>. You, too, can <a href="https://runforsomething.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Run for Something</a>. It’s not too late to <a href="https://www.grapevine.org/giving-circle/wj6hgjQ/Fated-States" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">donate money to our Giving Circle</a> for the upcoming election in Virginia.</li><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/3/10/0726-romance-novels-with-a-ticking-clock" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Listen to Amanda Litman from Run For Something on Fated Mates</a></li><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/9/3/stop-book-banning-2024" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Listen to Melissa Walker from The States Project on Fated Mates</a></li></ul><br/><h2>Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46EGeTh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Noelle the First</a> by Nicole Falls</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46EzBAp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">I’ll Get Back to You</a> by Becca Grischow</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gXVJJz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Matched to Perfection Series</a> by Priscilla Oliveras</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4o5QcTs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Vega Family Love Stories</a> by Natalie Caña</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4nFxeDy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Crowne Legacy Series</a> by Sherelle Green</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46LsSDq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Bollywood Bride</a> by Sonali Dev</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46ZOQD2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Curse Bearer Series</a> by Veronica Roth</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3WozbYP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stars in Your Eyes</a> by Kacen Callender</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4odjpfz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Eastside Brewery Series</a> by Mia Hopkins</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4h0rz8r" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Way You Make Me Feel</a> by Maurene Goo</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gYCgZi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Girl Who Knew Too Much</a> by Jayne Ann Krentz</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4nDEHmt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">His Girl Hollywood</a> by Maureen Lee Lenker</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46GzAMt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Sapphire Cove Series</a> by C. Travis Rice</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4nBJepo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love Will Always Remember</a> by Tracey Livesay</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46WkAsM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Something Cheeky</a> by Thien-Kim Lam</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3IRwCLU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Streams and Schemes</a> by Rebecca Kincade</li><li><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We're thinking about Chicago, DC, and LA this week, and standing in solidarity with the people living and resisting in those cities. While reading isn't action, it can supplement it, and keep us joyful as we do the hard work of standing up. To that end, this week, we're recommending books that feature Chicago, Washington, DC &amp; Los Angeles as settings. We're also sharing resources and ways you can stay informed, help communities of immigrants, and get involved in whatever way possible. </p><p>Note: We recorded this episode just as the National Guard was sent to Portland, Oregon, which is why Portland-set romances are not included in this episode. Please feel free to share your favorite romances set there in comments or on social media. Tag us so we can share!</p><p>Our next read along is Gorilla Twins, AKA Lorraine Heath's <em>The Earl Takes All</em>. Find it at <a href="https://amzn.to/4nGdIqk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-earl-takes-all-lorraine-heath/1122449719" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-earl-takes-all?srsltid=AfmBOop2BTwKi5j-_bd6OFY1DYvyq9bDFW2d7gkBml-9hKxI06mFjeJr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-earl-takes-all/id1027502882" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780062391032" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>. </p><p>If you'd like more romance chat in your life, please consider joining our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! There, magnificent firebirds hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.&nbsp;</p><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li>Learn more about <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20230725130539/https://www.texasmonthly.com/arts-entertainment/ramon-ayala-accordion-king/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ramón Ayala, the King of the Accordion.</a></li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/gBramuE01N0?si=EZBnGSKzezxckTJp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">There goes your social life.&nbsp;</a></li><li>It's too late to go to <a href="https://goteborg-bookfair.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Gothenburg Book Festival</a> this year, but there’s always next year. One of the first internationally known Swedish romance writers is <a href="https://www.salomonssonagency.se/simona-ahrnstedt/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Simona Ahrnstedt.</a> <a href="https://www.scandinaviastandard.com/scandi-six-crime-writers-of-scandinavia/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Crime fiction is a big deal in Sweden</a>, and Sarah met <a href="https://camillalackberg.se/en/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Camilla Läckberg</a> and <a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/authors/Anders-de-la-Motte/408080958" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Anders de la Motte</a>.</li><li><a href="https://truthout.org/articles/trump-is-releasing-the-full-force-of-federal-police-on-chicago/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Terrible awful things</a> happening <a href="https://chicago.suntimes.com/immigration/2025/10/01/massive-immigration-raid-on-chicago-apartment-building-leaves-residents-reeling-i-feel-defeated" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">in Chicago</a>, <a href="https://calmatters.org/justice/2025/08/la-immigration-raids-empty-spaces/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Los Angeles</a>, <a href="https://19thnews.org/2025/09/child-care-workers-ice-dc-immigration/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Washington DC</a>, and <a href="https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/protests/protest-portland-trump-national-guard-deployment/283-a833a647-1631-4e40-ba34-82b58ee72086" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Portland</a>. Many of these raids are apparently being filmed to make propaganda for the regime.&nbsp;</li><li>Support local, independent news organizations in your town. This is how you can find out information about what is going on across the country. You might start by checking out: <a href="https://unraveledpress.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Unraveled Press</a>, <a href="https://blockclubchicago.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Block Club Chicago</a>, <a href="https://thetriibe.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Triibe</a>, <a href="https://lataco.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LA Taco,</a> <a href="https://www.wbez.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">WBEZ chicago</a> or your local NPR station, The <a href="https://chicago.suntimes.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chicago Sun-Times</a>. </li><li>You should also find local organizations that do work you care about and find a way to support them. In Chicago, for example, two vital organizations are <a href="https://www.bravespacealliance.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Brave Space Alliance</a> and <a href="https://www.thelovefridge.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Love Fridge</a>. And, find out who is supporting immigrants where you live and find out what they need and how you can support their work. For example, <a href="https://www.icirr.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Illinois Coalition for Immigrant and Refugee Rights</a> in Illinois, and <a href="https://www.chirla.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CHIRLA, The Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights in LA.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/DA1LrwySawD/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&amp;igsh=MWpxdHM2cHFzZTVzZw==" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Find a local Latinx-owned bookstore</a> near you by using this list from the Latinos In Publishing account.&nbsp; Here's <a href="https://www.latimes.com/delos/list/10-latino-owned-bookstores-and-comic-shops" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a list of Latinx bookstores in LA</a> if you're looking there.</li><li>The <a href="https://www.chicagonorthromancewriters.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chicago North Romance Writers</a> hosts a writing conference called Spring Fling, it’s happening in April of 2026. Some of the great people Jen has met from the group or around town at local romance events: Pamala Knight, Shannyn Schroeder, Kelly Farmer, Victoria Hamel, Kathy Douglass, and Chandra Blumberg.&nbsp;</li><li>Find other people in your community who are working to fight authoritarianism and tyranny at <a href="https://mobilize.us" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mobilize</a>. </li><li>Not sure how to contact your reps? Try using <a href="https://5calls.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">5 Calls</a> and <a href="https://resist.bot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Resistbot</a>. You, too, can <a href="https://runforsomething.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Run for Something</a>. It’s not too late to <a href="https://www.grapevine.org/giving-circle/wj6hgjQ/Fated-States" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">donate money to our Giving Circle</a> for the upcoming election in Virginia.</li><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/3/10/0726-romance-novels-with-a-ticking-clock" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Listen to Amanda Litman from Run For Something on Fated Mates</a></li><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/9/3/stop-book-banning-2024" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Listen to Melissa Walker from The States Project on Fated Mates</a></li></ul><br/><h2>Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46EGeTh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Noelle the First</a> by Nicole Falls</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46EzBAp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">I’ll Get Back to You</a> by Becca Grischow</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gXVJJz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Matched to Perfection Series</a> by Priscilla Oliveras</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4o5QcTs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Vega Family Love Stories</a> by Natalie Caña</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4nFxeDy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Crowne Legacy Series</a> by Sherelle Green</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46LsSDq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Bollywood Bride</a> by Sonali Dev</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46ZOQD2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Curse Bearer Series</a> by Veronica Roth</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3WozbYP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stars in Your Eyes</a> by Kacen Callender</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4odjpfz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Eastside Brewery Series</a> by Mia Hopkins</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4h0rz8r" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Way You Make Me Feel</a> by Maurene Goo</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gYCgZi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Girl Who Knew Too Much</a> by Jayne Ann Krentz</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4nDEHmt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">His Girl Hollywood</a> by Maureen Lee Lenker</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46GzAMt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Sapphire Cove Series</a> by C. Travis Rice</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4nBJepo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love Will Always Remember</a> by Tracey Livesay</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46WkAsM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Something Cheeky</a> by Thien-Kim Lam</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3IRwCLU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Streams and Schemes</a> by Rebecca Kincade</li><li><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/10/6/0804-we-love-you-chicago-dc-and-la </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> <a href="https://amzn.to/4pXF8cX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Feral Warriors Series</a> by Pamela Palmer</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3J18pTn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pride &amp; Protest</a> by Nikki Payne</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gYDCTT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Worst Best Man</a> by Mia Sosa</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3KHNYLD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Blackout Billionaire Series</a> by Naima Simone</li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Lindsay Barrett,</strong> author of <em>Savannah Royals</em> series, available at in print or ebook<a href="https://amzn.to/3IXyh2x" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">, or with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Vedentro</strong>, premium leather accessories. <a href="https://www.vedentro.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Use code FATED at checkout</a> to get 30% off.</li><li><strong>Jamie Varon</strong>, author of <em>Charlie Quinn Lets Go</em>, available at <a href="https://amzn.to/46emqGi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/charlie-quinn-lets-go-jamie-varon/1146709760" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/audiobook/charlie-quinn-lets-go-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/charlie-quinn-lets-go/id6739534375" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780778368410" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/10/6/0804-we-love-you-chicago-dc-and-la]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">7eb41a55-e295-48b7-aff2-75f31fe72592</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2025 00:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/7eb41a55-e295-48b7-aff2-75f31fe72592.mp3" length="115651333" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>02:00:28</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>8</itunes:season><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>4</podcast:episode><podcast:season>8</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-92f60b0b-c8d9-44c2-8fac-5f7352f89ba0.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>08.03: Fall 2025 Preview</title><itunes:title>Fall 2025 Preview</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It's October, which means we're thinking about fall, which comes with spice, heat and hanging out under the blankets! Today, our Fall 2025 romance novel preview, guaranteed to fill your TBR pile. There’s something here for everyone — historicals, contemporaries, a splash of magic, princesses, superheroes, time-travel, widows, F1 drivers...a real ideal dinner party roster.</p><p>If you'd like more romance chat in your life, please consider joining our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! There, magnificent firebirds hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.&nbsp;</p><h2>Books</h2><p><strong>September Releases</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3VItx3v" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Faster</a> by Andie J. Christopher</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/487ZkSU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Earl That Got Away</a> by Diana Quincy</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4pnzIYw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Resisting the Forbidden Widow</a> by Maggie Weston</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3JQaKRk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Scot's Seduction</a> Megan Frampton</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/488mgRV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Dreamer and the Deep Space Warrior</a> by TK Tucker</li></ul><br/><p><strong>October Releases</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46prHcT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hell's Heresies</a> by Kat D. Coffin</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42k1jQk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Female Fantasy</a> by Iman Hariri-Kia</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4n1eQEP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wrecking Caine</a> by Amelia Shea</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46z6DSl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Scar in the Bone</a> by Sophie Jordan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/460WFci" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cowboy, It's Cold Outside</a> by Maisey Yates</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46ARqQI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Strings Attached</a> by Noel Bailey</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3VhJxcD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Pack for Winter</a> by Eliana Lee</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4pnp2cm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Isn’t It Obvious</a> by Rachel Runya Katz</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4nuA6CL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">London Calling</a> by Rita Gordon</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3VhxhsF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Backslide</a> by Nora Dahlia</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/469O5GQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Play You For It</a> by Samantha Saldivar</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46i1Wex" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Devil She Knows</a> by Alexandria Bellefleur</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47BdJXz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">All of us Murderers</a> by KJ Charles</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46hxpxb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Only Rakes Need Apply</a> by Kate Pearce</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47HONO6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Julia Song Is Undateable</a> by Susan Lee</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4maHL8h" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Some Kind of Famous</a> by Ava Wilder</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3K1DAhw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Star Is Scorned</a> by Maureen Lee Lenker</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4mfQKVw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Collar Billionaire</a> by Amy Andrews</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4mi3pY6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Once Upon a Courtesan</a> by Jess Michaels</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47CkdFC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Claiming the Princess</a> by Charis Michaels&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3VMXLSV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heartsick</a> by Kristina Forrest</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46o3dAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Reel Love</a> by Addie Woolridge</li></ul><br/><p><strong>November Releases</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gkRAzb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Dramatic Life of Jonah Penrose</a> Robyn Green</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4pczEKW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Not You Again</a> by Erin La Rosa</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47HP4R8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">These Violet Delights</a> by Madeleine Roux</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46rRhOy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">All Superheroes Need Photos Ops</a> by Elizabeth Stephens</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/48dsW15" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Violet Thistlewaite Is Not a Villain Anymore</a> by Emily Krempholtz</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46hjtTZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Call Me Anytime</a> by Max Monroe</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47HRijE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Maid of Sherwood Forest</a> by Sian Ann Bessey</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46isEUh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pick Me</a> by Victoria Schade</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46nRVwh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ellie Hayes and the Himbos</a> by Vanessa King</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ntbIRW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Next Time Will be our Turn</a> by Jesse Q Sutanto</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3VNnaMk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Son of the Morning</a> by Akwaeke Emezi</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3VJGeeq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ladies in Waiting: Jane Austen’s Unsung Characters</a>&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4meMVQE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Big Sky Safe House</a> by Juno Rushdan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4mYwAQZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Snowbound and Royally Forbidden</a> by Maya Blake</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3JYH0lg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Reluctant Reaper</a> by MaryJanice Davidson</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4nbDORV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Midnight Book Club</a> by E.W. Anderson</li></ul><br/><p><strong>December Releases</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46iZQLs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bodyguard Affair</a> by Amy Lee</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4pjsg0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Audrey Lane Stirs the Pot</a> by Alexis Hall</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gmenKE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Something Wicked</a> by Falon Ballard</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3I62M61" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Her Time Traveling Duke</a> by Bryn Donovan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3VfkpTP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">How to Grieve like a Victorian</a> by Amy Carol Reeves</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3IkZGeo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Most Worthy Husband</a> by Faye Delacour</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46l3YdV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love letters for Other People</a> by Shaylin Gandhi</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Iiyz3x" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sparks Fly</a> by Zakiya N. Jamal</li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Jaylee Austin, BL Lucas, Tegan Lleuad, Brie Blackmore, RM Fire, &amp; Natasha Wilco,</strong> authors of <em>Monsters in Moonlight</em> series, six books available at <a href="https://amzn.to/3It68A9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon, or with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>HarperCollins</strong>, publishers of Diana Quincy's <em>The Earl That Got Away</em>, available at <a href="https://amzn.to/3VUMbVY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-earl-that-got-away-diana-quincy/1146761414" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/ca/en/audiobook/the-earl-that-got-away" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/audiobook/the-earl-that-got-away/id1788109548" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063247567" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Pippa Grant</strong>, author of <em>The Spite Date</em>, available at <a href="https://amzn.to/46nmXWx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon, or with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Jamie Varon</strong>, author of <em>Charlie Quinn Lets Go</em>, available at <a href="https://amzn.to/46emqGi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/charlie-quinn-lets-go-jamie-varon/1146709760" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/audiobook/charlie-quinn-lets-go-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/charlie-quinn-lets-go/id6739534375" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780778368410" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/9/12/0803-fall-2025-preview </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's October, which means we're thinking about fall, which comes with spice, heat and hanging out under the blankets! Today, our Fall 2025 romance novel preview, guaranteed to fill your TBR pile. There’s something here for everyone — historicals, contemporaries, a splash of magic, princesses, superheroes, time-travel, widows, F1 drivers...a real ideal dinner party roster.</p><p>If you'd like more romance chat in your life, please consider joining our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! There, magnificent firebirds hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.&nbsp;</p><h2>Books</h2><p><strong>September Releases</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3VItx3v" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Faster</a> by Andie J. Christopher</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/487ZkSU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Earl That Got Away</a> by Diana Quincy</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4pnzIYw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Resisting the Forbidden Widow</a> by Maggie Weston</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3JQaKRk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Scot's Seduction</a> Megan Frampton</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/488mgRV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Dreamer and the Deep Space Warrior</a> by TK Tucker</li></ul><br/><p><strong>October Releases</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46prHcT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hell's Heresies</a> by Kat D. Coffin</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42k1jQk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Female Fantasy</a> by Iman Hariri-Kia</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4n1eQEP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wrecking Caine</a> by Amelia Shea</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46z6DSl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Scar in the Bone</a> by Sophie Jordan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/460WFci" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cowboy, It's Cold Outside</a> by Maisey Yates</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46ARqQI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Strings Attached</a> by Noel Bailey</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3VhJxcD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Pack for Winter</a> by Eliana Lee</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4pnp2cm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Isn’t It Obvious</a> by Rachel Runya Katz</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4nuA6CL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">London Calling</a> by Rita Gordon</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3VhxhsF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Backslide</a> by Nora Dahlia</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/469O5GQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Play You For It</a> by Samantha Saldivar</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46i1Wex" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Devil She Knows</a> by Alexandria Bellefleur</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47BdJXz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">All of us Murderers</a> by KJ Charles</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46hxpxb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Only Rakes Need Apply</a> by Kate Pearce</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47HONO6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Julia Song Is Undateable</a> by Susan Lee</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4maHL8h" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Some Kind of Famous</a> by Ava Wilder</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3K1DAhw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Star Is Scorned</a> by Maureen Lee Lenker</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4mfQKVw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Collar Billionaire</a> by Amy Andrews</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4mi3pY6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Once Upon a Courtesan</a> by Jess Michaels</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47CkdFC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Claiming the Princess</a> by Charis Michaels&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3VMXLSV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heartsick</a> by Kristina Forrest</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46o3dAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Reel Love</a> by Addie Woolridge</li></ul><br/><p><strong>November Releases</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gkRAzb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Dramatic Life of Jonah Penrose</a> Robyn Green</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4pczEKW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Not You Again</a> by Erin La Rosa</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47HP4R8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">These Violet Delights</a> by Madeleine Roux</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46rRhOy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">All Superheroes Need Photos Ops</a> by Elizabeth Stephens</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/48dsW15" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Violet Thistlewaite Is Not a Villain Anymore</a> by Emily Krempholtz</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46hjtTZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Call Me Anytime</a> by Max Monroe</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47HRijE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Maid of Sherwood Forest</a> by Sian Ann Bessey</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46isEUh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pick Me</a> by Victoria Schade</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46nRVwh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ellie Hayes and the Himbos</a> by Vanessa King</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ntbIRW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Next Time Will be our Turn</a> by Jesse Q Sutanto</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3VNnaMk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Son of the Morning</a> by Akwaeke Emezi</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3VJGeeq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ladies in Waiting: Jane Austen’s Unsung Characters</a>&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4meMVQE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Big Sky Safe House</a> by Juno Rushdan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4mYwAQZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Snowbound and Royally Forbidden</a> by Maya Blake</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3JYH0lg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Reluctant Reaper</a> by MaryJanice Davidson</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4nbDORV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Midnight Book Club</a> by E.W. Anderson</li></ul><br/><p><strong>December Releases</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46iZQLs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bodyguard Affair</a> by Amy Lee</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4pjsg0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Audrey Lane Stirs the Pot</a> by Alexis Hall</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gmenKE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Something Wicked</a> by Falon Ballard</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3I62M61" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Her Time Traveling Duke</a> by Bryn Donovan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3VfkpTP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">How to Grieve like a Victorian</a> by Amy Carol Reeves</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3IkZGeo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Most Worthy Husband</a> by Faye Delacour</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46l3YdV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love letters for Other People</a> by Shaylin Gandhi</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Iiyz3x" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sparks Fly</a> by Zakiya N. Jamal</li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Jaylee Austin, BL Lucas, Tegan Lleuad, Brie Blackmore, RM Fire, &amp; Natasha Wilco,</strong> authors of <em>Monsters in Moonlight</em> series, six books available at <a href="https://amzn.to/3It68A9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon, or with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>HarperCollins</strong>, publishers of Diana Quincy's <em>The Earl That Got Away</em>, available at <a href="https://amzn.to/3VUMbVY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-earl-that-got-away-diana-quincy/1146761414" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/ca/en/audiobook/the-earl-that-got-away" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/audiobook/the-earl-that-got-away/id1788109548" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063247567" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Pippa Grant</strong>, author of <em>The Spite Date</em>, available at <a href="https://amzn.to/46nmXWx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon, or with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Jamie Varon</strong>, author of <em>Charlie Quinn Lets Go</em>, available at <a href="https://amzn.to/46emqGi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/charlie-quinn-lets-go-jamie-varon/1146709760" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/audiobook/charlie-quinn-lets-go-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/charlie-quinn-lets-go/id6739534375" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780778368410" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/9/12/0803-fall-2025-preview </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/9/12/0803-fall-2025-preview]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">359b9fe2-d57e-4779-8418-649a5e936a6c</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2025 23:45:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/359b9fe2-d57e-4779-8418-649a5e936a6c.mp3" length="107422644" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:51:54</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>8</itunes:season><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>3</podcast:episode><podcast:season>8</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-f6fbd4cd-b8ba-4d9f-afac-91243a105215.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S08.02: Feminism in Romance with Adriana Herrera</title><itunes:title>Feminism in Romance with Adriana Herrera</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Our fave, Adriana Herrera, is with us this week to talk about feminism, romance, and how the two intersect. We talk about the history of the genre, about the evolution of feminism within it, and about what we want from the texts we're reading now, as the world does whatever it is it's doing. Oh, and we recommend some feminist romance, because of course we do.</p><p>If you'd like more romance chat in your life, please consider joining our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! There, magnificent firebirds hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.&nbsp;</p><h2>Notes</h2><p>Welcome back to the podcast, <a href="https://adrianaherreraromance.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adriana Herrera</a>. Her first time on the podcast was way back in Season One, talking about <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/3-something-we-said-wicked-deeds-on-a-winters-night" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bowen and Mariketa</a>, and then there were all these other times <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/tag/Adriana+Herrera" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">we’ve talked with her or about her books</a>. Her latest project is the <a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ahpublishing/after-the-end-a-dystopian-romance-collection/description" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">After the End kickstarter</a>, which was just ending as this podcast aired. But you might be able to get in on it for a few more days if you act fast.&nbsp;</p><p><a href="https://theconversation.com/no-feminism-is-not-about-choice-40896" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Choice feminism</a> <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/DIgbRC6Rq7k/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">isn’t the way</a>, even if you’r<a href="https://sfonline.barnard.edu/hbo/printbmo.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">e Charlotte from Sex in the City</a>… <a href="https://youtu.be/2hNqB4PDAoY?si=cnkJWuwOiztH672b" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">why did Jen think it was Samantha?</a> Because memory is weird, okay.&nbsp;</p><p>In 2025, the New York Times reports that <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/31/us/politics/trump-federal-work-force-black-women.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">350k Black women have lost their jobs</a> and the goal of the administration broadly seems to be <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/02/trump-attacks-dei/681772/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">resegregation</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>We recommend books about feminism below, from beginner to advanced. But we’ve also collected some web-based resources you might want to check out:&nbsp;</p><ul><li>The Race to Innocence: <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@professorneil/video/7531036590454492417" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">watch this TikTok</a> or read <a href="https://scholarship.law.umn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1278&amp;context=faculty_articles" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this 1998 paper by Fellows &amp; Razack which first defined the phenomenon.</a></li><li>Intersectionality: This idea was first defined by Kimberlé Crenshaw in 1989. You can read more about the basics of intersectionality <a href="https://www.aaup.org/academe/issues/104-4/what-intersectionality-and-why-it-important" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here</a>, <a href="https://www.law.columbia.edu/news/archive/kimberle-crenshaw-intersectionality-more-two-decades-later" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here,</a> or <a href="https://iwda.org.au/what-does-intersectional-feminism-actually-mean/?gad_source=1&amp;gad_campaignid=20363018873&amp;gbraid=0AAAAADwVuS7CaeBScqZjgnCc_WvhbtZLQ&amp;gclid=Cj0KCQjw58PGBhCkARIsADbDilzVHuUg_UnTbHaQxDUG7BHA_vEuLDfJ-c0KCbK0HwxOMPXVBYEqtPcaAstiEALw_wcB&amp;scrlybrkr=958e9960" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here</a>.</li><li>Feminist Theory: <a href="https://www.vox.com/2018/3/20/16955588/feminism-waves-explained-first-second-third-fourth" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Four Waves of Feminism</a> explained; <a href="https://uk.sagepub.com/sites/default/files/upm-binaries/11881_Chapter_5.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Uses of the Erotic: the Erotic as Power</a> by Audre Lorde; <a href="https://www.jezebel.com/no-offense-1749221642" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">No Offense</a> by Jia Tolentino.</li><li>Transmisogyny: <a href="https://rcsgd.sa.ucsb.edu/resources/lgbtqia-informational-resources/transmisogyny" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Transmisogyny</a> defined; why <a href="https://www.gladlaw.org/the-fight-for-transgender-rights-is-a-fight-for-democracy/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">trans rights are human rights</a>, and <a href="https://righttoequality.org/why-trans-rights-are-human-rights-and-why-the-feminist-movement-should-support-trans-people/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">why feminism must support trans people</a>. </li></ul><br/><h2>Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46hV55X" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wicked Deeds on a Winter’s Night</a> by Kresley Cole</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/425pORe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hold</a> by Claire Kent</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3IAoUpi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fanta C</a> by Sandra Brown</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Iy5e5r" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Darling Obstacles</a> by Barbara Boswell</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/48qsc96" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Tropical Rebel Gets the Duke</a> by Adriana Herrera</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4nskq32" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dangerous Men and Adventurous Women</a></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42BNhJY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Careless Whispers</a> by Synithia Williams</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/48sT4oP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Bone King and the Starling</a> by Elizabeth Stephens</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3IoZtqK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heart of Blood and Ashes</a> by Milla Vane</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46LG7Fv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spark of the Everflame</a> by Penn Cole&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46WiOIb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Only Lovers in the Building</a> by Nadine Gonzales</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46kGfeY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ain’t She Sweet</a> by Susan Elizabeth Phillips</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gFcjxG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Bright Falls series</a> by Ashley Herring Blake</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4nI4aL7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ten Ways to be Adored When Landing a Lord</a> by Sarah MacLean</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Ki1zsU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Preferential Treatment</a> by Heather Guerre</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42LJfib" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Streams and Schemes</a> by Rebecca Kinkade</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4nhO2QX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">All About Love</a> by bell hooks</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4mOn8iB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Feminism, Interrupted</a> by Lola Olufemi</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/425mwxt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Portable Feminist Reader</a></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4nskK1K" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Trouble with White Women</a> by Kyla Schuller</li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li>Melody Beckett, author of <em>Alien Desire</em>, available at <a href="https://amzn.to/4n8DL9p" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon, or with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li>HarperCollins, publishers of A. T. Qureshi's <em>The Baby Dragon Bakery</em>, available at <a href="https://amzn.to/4n8DL9p" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-baby-dragon-bakery-a-t-qureshi/1146397778?ean=9780008742935" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-baby-dragon-bakery-the-baby-dragon-series-book-2-1?sId=9ca409a1-ca5e-482c-8c6b-44a784ac8a5d&amp;ssId=krG5VnT_aw-JSFW2UHxfC&amp;cPos=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-baby-dragon-bakery/id6736856280" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780008742935" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li>Pippa Grant, author of <em>The Spite Date</em>, available at <a href="https://amzn.to/46nmXWx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon, or with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/feminism-in-romance </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our fave, Adriana Herrera, is with us this week to talk about feminism, romance, and how the two intersect. We talk about the history of the genre, about the evolution of feminism within it, and about what we want from the texts we're reading now, as the world does whatever it is it's doing. Oh, and we recommend some feminist romance, because of course we do.</p><p>If you'd like more romance chat in your life, please consider joining our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! There, magnificent firebirds hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.&nbsp;</p><h2>Notes</h2><p>Welcome back to the podcast, <a href="https://adrianaherreraromance.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adriana Herrera</a>. Her first time on the podcast was way back in Season One, talking about <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/3-something-we-said-wicked-deeds-on-a-winters-night" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bowen and Mariketa</a>, and then there were all these other times <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/tag/Adriana+Herrera" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">we’ve talked with her or about her books</a>. Her latest project is the <a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ahpublishing/after-the-end-a-dystopian-romance-collection/description" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">After the End kickstarter</a>, which was just ending as this podcast aired. But you might be able to get in on it for a few more days if you act fast.&nbsp;</p><p><a href="https://theconversation.com/no-feminism-is-not-about-choice-40896" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Choice feminism</a> <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/DIgbRC6Rq7k/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">isn’t the way</a>, even if you’r<a href="https://sfonline.barnard.edu/hbo/printbmo.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">e Charlotte from Sex in the City</a>… <a href="https://youtu.be/2hNqB4PDAoY?si=cnkJWuwOiztH672b" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">why did Jen think it was Samantha?</a> Because memory is weird, okay.&nbsp;</p><p>In 2025, the New York Times reports that <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/31/us/politics/trump-federal-work-force-black-women.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">350k Black women have lost their jobs</a> and the goal of the administration broadly seems to be <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/02/trump-attacks-dei/681772/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">resegregation</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>We recommend books about feminism below, from beginner to advanced. But we’ve also collected some web-based resources you might want to check out:&nbsp;</p><ul><li>The Race to Innocence: <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@professorneil/video/7531036590454492417" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">watch this TikTok</a> or read <a href="https://scholarship.law.umn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1278&amp;context=faculty_articles" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this 1998 paper by Fellows &amp; Razack which first defined the phenomenon.</a></li><li>Intersectionality: This idea was first defined by Kimberlé Crenshaw in 1989. You can read more about the basics of intersectionality <a href="https://www.aaup.org/academe/issues/104-4/what-intersectionality-and-why-it-important" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here</a>, <a href="https://www.law.columbia.edu/news/archive/kimberle-crenshaw-intersectionality-more-two-decades-later" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here,</a> or <a href="https://iwda.org.au/what-does-intersectional-feminism-actually-mean/?gad_source=1&amp;gad_campaignid=20363018873&amp;gbraid=0AAAAADwVuS7CaeBScqZjgnCc_WvhbtZLQ&amp;gclid=Cj0KCQjw58PGBhCkARIsADbDilzVHuUg_UnTbHaQxDUG7BHA_vEuLDfJ-c0KCbK0HwxOMPXVBYEqtPcaAstiEALw_wcB&amp;scrlybrkr=958e9960" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here</a>.</li><li>Feminist Theory: <a href="https://www.vox.com/2018/3/20/16955588/feminism-waves-explained-first-second-third-fourth" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Four Waves of Feminism</a> explained; <a href="https://uk.sagepub.com/sites/default/files/upm-binaries/11881_Chapter_5.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Uses of the Erotic: the Erotic as Power</a> by Audre Lorde; <a href="https://www.jezebel.com/no-offense-1749221642" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">No Offense</a> by Jia Tolentino.</li><li>Transmisogyny: <a href="https://rcsgd.sa.ucsb.edu/resources/lgbtqia-informational-resources/transmisogyny" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Transmisogyny</a> defined; why <a href="https://www.gladlaw.org/the-fight-for-transgender-rights-is-a-fight-for-democracy/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">trans rights are human rights</a>, and <a href="https://righttoequality.org/why-trans-rights-are-human-rights-and-why-the-feminist-movement-should-support-trans-people/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">why feminism must support trans people</a>. </li></ul><br/><h2>Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46hV55X" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wicked Deeds on a Winter’s Night</a> by Kresley Cole</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/425pORe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hold</a> by Claire Kent</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3IAoUpi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fanta C</a> by Sandra Brown</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Iy5e5r" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Darling Obstacles</a> by Barbara Boswell</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/48qsc96" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Tropical Rebel Gets the Duke</a> by Adriana Herrera</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4nskq32" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dangerous Men and Adventurous Women</a></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42BNhJY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Careless Whispers</a> by Synithia Williams</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/48sT4oP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Bone King and the Starling</a> by Elizabeth Stephens</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3IoZtqK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heart of Blood and Ashes</a> by Milla Vane</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46LG7Fv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spark of the Everflame</a> by Penn Cole&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46WiOIb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Only Lovers in the Building</a> by Nadine Gonzales</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46kGfeY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ain’t She Sweet</a> by Susan Elizabeth Phillips</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gFcjxG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Bright Falls series</a> by Ashley Herring Blake</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4nI4aL7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ten Ways to be Adored When Landing a Lord</a> by Sarah MacLean</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Ki1zsU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Preferential Treatment</a> by Heather Guerre</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42LJfib" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Streams and Schemes</a> by Rebecca Kinkade</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4nhO2QX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">All About Love</a> by bell hooks</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4mOn8iB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Feminism, Interrupted</a> by Lola Olufemi</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/425mwxt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Portable Feminist Reader</a></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4nskK1K" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Trouble with White Women</a> by Kyla Schuller</li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li>Melody Beckett, author of <em>Alien Desire</em>, available at <a href="https://amzn.to/4n8DL9p" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon, or with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li>HarperCollins, publishers of A. T. Qureshi's <em>The Baby Dragon Bakery</em>, available at <a href="https://amzn.to/4n8DL9p" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-baby-dragon-bakery-a-t-qureshi/1146397778?ean=9780008742935" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-baby-dragon-bakery-the-baby-dragon-series-book-2-1?sId=9ca409a1-ca5e-482c-8c6b-44a784ac8a5d&amp;ssId=krG5VnT_aw-JSFW2UHxfC&amp;cPos=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-baby-dragon-bakery/id6736856280" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780008742935" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li>Pippa Grant, author of <em>The Spite Date</em>, available at <a href="https://amzn.to/46nmXWx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon, or with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/feminism-in-romance </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/feminism-in-romance]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">9620c00e-aa79-4a46-926b-4e54cb2e9854</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2025 00:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/9620c00e-aa79-4a46-926b-4e54cb2e9854.mp3" length="108773400" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:53:18</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>8</itunes:season><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>2</podcast:episode><podcast:season>8</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-009c78a4-057a-4b05-8964-08af67cd28ab.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S08.01: Cold Open: Craft, Criticism, and Summer Vacation</title><itunes:title>Cold Open: Craft, Criticism, and Summer Vacation</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Season Eight! How is it possible you're all still here?! We're so incredibly thrilled to have you all with us for another season. We've got big plans for talking to your favorite people, getting under the hood of your favorite tropes, and filling your TBR pile with your new favorite books. We quickly find ourselves in the deep end, talking about craft, criticism, and romance’s place in 2025. But first, we share what we did on our summer vacations. </p><p>Season Eight. Wowzer. Honestly, we love knowing you're out there. Thank you so much for listening.</p><p>If you'd like more romance chat in your life, please consider joining our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! There, magnificent firebirds hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.&nbsp;</p><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>If you’re a writer looking to learn more about in person events for romance craft, check out <a href="https://romancingthecraft.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Romancing the Craft in Anaheim this fall</a> or <a href="https://chicagospringfling.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spring Fling</a> which will be hosted by Chicago North Romance Writers in spring of 2026.&nbsp;</li><li>Australia is not actually a <a href="https://www.nma.gov.au/defining-moments/resources/convict-transportation-peaks" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">land of criminals</a>, but Tasmania is a dark place…the sky we mean. On the <a href="https://thisislovepodcast.com/episode-92-to-know-the-dark/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">This is Love podcast, there was an episode about it!</a> Check out <a href="https://apps.apple.com/app/id475772902" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Night Sky app</a>, which will help you identify the stars you are seeing in the night sky.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.mvy.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Martha’s Vineyard</a> is great, actually. But watch out for <a href="https://mvmagazine.com/news/2025/06/06/island-epidemic" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ticks</a> and <a href="https://youtu.be/lL_3DOFBK8g?si=zYyh_V4CqNX4hLTr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sharks</a>. Speaking of Jaws, it’s a different vibe <a href="https://youtu.be/ytl0jzV3lCQ?si=RSwDClufOobNI2kX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">without that music</a> and here’s more about John Williams and <a href="https://youtu.be/iSYDsrx65m0?si=DfTqhuQ5w-w_VQwe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the power of the score.</a></li><li><a href="https://lithub.com/the-associated-press-is-ending-its-regular-book-coverage/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AP isn’t doing book reviews anymore</a>, and that means that there will be less book news in papers across America. We talked about the decline of cultural criticism this week. Read more about <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2025/09/01/how-music-criticism-lost-its-edge" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">music criticism</a> and <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2025/aug/26/movie-reviews-cultural-criticism-erasure" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">film criticism</a>. This goes hand in hand with news that <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/20/well/reading-pleasure-decline-study.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">less Americans are reading for pleasure.</a> </li><li>Across storytelling mediums, people are noticing a breakdown in the ability to tell a story. Here’s a great essay about <a href="https://goodones.beehiiv.com/p/the-shit-happens-cinematic-universe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the difference between premise and narrative</a> in film. Here’s a really interesting thread from Blue Sky wondering if <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/matthewclaxton.bsky.social/post/3lxkri5p4xc27" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sci-Fi is a genre that’s dying.</a></li><li>Ten years ago <a href="https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/photos-and-video/video/2015/11/03/time-lapse-white-house-june-26th-2015" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">gay marriage passed and it felt like the world had changed</a>, but they’re determined to roll them back. <a href="https://youtu.be/8W-lVRQQGtI?si=LF0mByU3LJVHCtlY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Keep fighting.</a></li></ul><br/><p>--</p><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Blue Box Press</strong>, publishers of Kristen Ashley's <em>Finding the One</em>, available at <a href="https://amzn.to/4gB28dC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/finding-the-one-kristen-ashley/1147460263" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/finding-the-one-16?sId=38fd915b-bb57-468d-9085-f9779f2213c9&amp;ssId=og_9H9hw5uDW0nopBX8Zu&amp;cPos=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/finding-the-one/id6746235544" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781963135947" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>HarperCollins</strong>, publishers of Laurie Gilmore's <em>The Gingerbread Bakery</em>, available at <a href="https://amzn.to/4gsZLJM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-gingerbread-bakery-laurie-gilmore/1146412383?ean=9780008773199" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-gingerbread-bakery-dream-harbor-book-5?sId=9c40050e-6f6d-4139-bf34-a0ed31329dd4&amp;ssId=PZ4L51NjqpDrUmzp0ZCuz&amp;cPos=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-gingerbread-bakery/id6736856377" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780008728090" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Vasilisa Drake</strong>, author of <em>A Bargain So Bloody</em>, available at <a href="https://amzn.to/46ni1PT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-bargain-so-bloody-vasilisa-drake/1147575867?ean=9781966921103" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/audiobook/a-bargain-so-bloody-1?sId=6daf47f3-a3f3-4027-b5b2-0b68944787f0&amp;ssId=v6rQ9CU70ucM759kk270C&amp;cPos=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/audiobook/a-bargain-so-bloody-a-dark-fantasy-romance/id1818306928" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781966921103" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>. Get the <a href="https://amzn.to/48jKqsI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">audiobook</a> wherever you listen.</li><li><strong>Lumi Gummies,</strong> THC gummies available nationwide. Go to <a href="https://lumigummies.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lumigummies.com</a> and use code FATEDMATES for 30% off.&nbsp;</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/9/10/0801-season-eight-the-state-of-the-romance-union </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Season Eight! How is it possible you're all still here?! We're so incredibly thrilled to have you all with us for another season. We've got big plans for talking to your favorite people, getting under the hood of your favorite tropes, and filling your TBR pile with your new favorite books. We quickly find ourselves in the deep end, talking about craft, criticism, and romance’s place in 2025. But first, we share what we did on our summer vacations. </p><p>Season Eight. Wowzer. Honestly, we love knowing you're out there. Thank you so much for listening.</p><p>If you'd like more romance chat in your life, please consider joining our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! There, magnificent firebirds hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.&nbsp;</p><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>If you’re a writer looking to learn more about in person events for romance craft, check out <a href="https://romancingthecraft.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Romancing the Craft in Anaheim this fall</a> or <a href="https://chicagospringfling.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spring Fling</a> which will be hosted by Chicago North Romance Writers in spring of 2026.&nbsp;</li><li>Australia is not actually a <a href="https://www.nma.gov.au/defining-moments/resources/convict-transportation-peaks" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">land of criminals</a>, but Tasmania is a dark place…the sky we mean. On the <a href="https://thisislovepodcast.com/episode-92-to-know-the-dark/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">This is Love podcast, there was an episode about it!</a> Check out <a href="https://apps.apple.com/app/id475772902" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Night Sky app</a>, which will help you identify the stars you are seeing in the night sky.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.mvy.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Martha’s Vineyard</a> is great, actually. But watch out for <a href="https://mvmagazine.com/news/2025/06/06/island-epidemic" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ticks</a> and <a href="https://youtu.be/lL_3DOFBK8g?si=zYyh_V4CqNX4hLTr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sharks</a>. Speaking of Jaws, it’s a different vibe <a href="https://youtu.be/ytl0jzV3lCQ?si=RSwDClufOobNI2kX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">without that music</a> and here’s more about John Williams and <a href="https://youtu.be/iSYDsrx65m0?si=DfTqhuQ5w-w_VQwe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the power of the score.</a></li><li><a href="https://lithub.com/the-associated-press-is-ending-its-regular-book-coverage/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AP isn’t doing book reviews anymore</a>, and that means that there will be less book news in papers across America. We talked about the decline of cultural criticism this week. Read more about <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2025/09/01/how-music-criticism-lost-its-edge" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">music criticism</a> and <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2025/aug/26/movie-reviews-cultural-criticism-erasure" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">film criticism</a>. This goes hand in hand with news that <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/20/well/reading-pleasure-decline-study.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">less Americans are reading for pleasure.</a> </li><li>Across storytelling mediums, people are noticing a breakdown in the ability to tell a story. Here’s a great essay about <a href="https://goodones.beehiiv.com/p/the-shit-happens-cinematic-universe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the difference between premise and narrative</a> in film. Here’s a really interesting thread from Blue Sky wondering if <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/matthewclaxton.bsky.social/post/3lxkri5p4xc27" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sci-Fi is a genre that’s dying.</a></li><li>Ten years ago <a href="https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/photos-and-video/video/2015/11/03/time-lapse-white-house-june-26th-2015" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">gay marriage passed and it felt like the world had changed</a>, but they’re determined to roll them back. <a href="https://youtu.be/8W-lVRQQGtI?si=LF0mByU3LJVHCtlY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Keep fighting.</a></li></ul><br/><p>--</p><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Blue Box Press</strong>, publishers of Kristen Ashley's <em>Finding the One</em>, available at <a href="https://amzn.to/4gB28dC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/finding-the-one-kristen-ashley/1147460263" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/finding-the-one-16?sId=38fd915b-bb57-468d-9085-f9779f2213c9&amp;ssId=og_9H9hw5uDW0nopBX8Zu&amp;cPos=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/finding-the-one/id6746235544" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781963135947" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>HarperCollins</strong>, publishers of Laurie Gilmore's <em>The Gingerbread Bakery</em>, available at <a href="https://amzn.to/4gsZLJM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-gingerbread-bakery-laurie-gilmore/1146412383?ean=9780008773199" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-gingerbread-bakery-dream-harbor-book-5?sId=9c40050e-6f6d-4139-bf34-a0ed31329dd4&amp;ssId=PZ4L51NjqpDrUmzp0ZCuz&amp;cPos=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-gingerbread-bakery/id6736856377" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780008728090" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Vasilisa Drake</strong>, author of <em>A Bargain So Bloody</em>, available at <a href="https://amzn.to/46ni1PT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-bargain-so-bloody-vasilisa-drake/1147575867?ean=9781966921103" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/audiobook/a-bargain-so-bloody-1?sId=6daf47f3-a3f3-4027-b5b2-0b68944787f0&amp;ssId=v6rQ9CU70ucM759kk270C&amp;cPos=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/audiobook/a-bargain-so-bloody-a-dark-fantasy-romance/id1818306928" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781966921103" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>. Get the <a href="https://amzn.to/48jKqsI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">audiobook</a> wherever you listen.</li><li><strong>Lumi Gummies,</strong> THC gummies available nationwide. Go to <a href="https://lumigummies.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lumigummies.com</a> and use code FATEDMATES for 30% off.&nbsp;</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/9/10/0801-season-eight-the-state-of-the-romance-union </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/9/10/0801-season-eight-the-state-of-the-romance-union]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">57c5112a-56b6-4642-8a33-4df15f9f71b8</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2025 23:15:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/57c5112a-56b6-4642-8a33-4df15f9f71b8.mp3" length="96787431" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:40:17</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>8</itunes:season><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>1</podcast:episode><podcast:season>8</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-542c8596-4fa5-4b59-984b-8e7a6dc3813b.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>Between Seasons Palate Cleanser: Fated Mates Live St. Louis!</title><itunes:title>Between Seasons Palate Cleanser: Fated Mates Live St. Louis!</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This year's Fated Mates Live was a little different than those we've hosted before, as it was also launch day for Sarah's These Summer Storms! We celebrated in style in the Midwest, hosted by the fabulous team at indie bookstore (and romance lovers), Novel Neighbor and joined by our absolute favorite, Kate Clayborn. </p><p>So many Firebirds turned out to celebrate with us from across the midwest to help Sarah learn the intricacies of Midwestern Romance Heroes™️, to talk about Derek Craven and others, and to celebrate Storms in style. The audience was, unfortunately, without microphones, so some of the event has been edited from this recording, but we hope you'll get the vibes -- and learn a little about the midwest! (We apologize for the Indiana and Connecticut shade within.) </p><p>Thanks to everyone who came out to celebrate with us -- we couldn't have asked for a better event, or a better launch day for <em>These Summer Storms</em>. Thank you for reading, for hanging, and for standing in an endless line to meet us and spend a little of your rainy Tuesday with us! </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This year's Fated Mates Live was a little different than those we've hosted before, as it was also launch day for Sarah's These Summer Storms! We celebrated in style in the Midwest, hosted by the fabulous team at indie bookstore (and romance lovers), Novel Neighbor and joined by our absolute favorite, Kate Clayborn. </p><p>So many Firebirds turned out to celebrate with us from across the midwest to help Sarah learn the intricacies of Midwestern Romance Heroes™️, to talk about Derek Craven and others, and to celebrate Storms in style. The audience was, unfortunately, without microphones, so some of the event has been edited from this recording, but we hope you'll get the vibes -- and learn a little about the midwest! (We apologize for the Indiana and Connecticut shade within.) </p><p>Thanks to everyone who came out to celebrate with us -- we couldn't have asked for a better event, or a better launch day for <em>These Summer Storms</em>. Thank you for reading, for hanging, and for standing in an endless line to meet us and spend a little of your rainy Tuesday with us! </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/9/3/between-seasons-palate-cleanser-fated-mates-live-st-louis]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">6ecfdce2-4ebe-4405-9a20-ad58fcdd33da</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/affa47f1-6f52-400b-93ed-4c8fdb424a18/blahgq3e.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2025 12:30:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/6ecfdce2-4ebe-4405-9a20-ad58fcdd33da.mp3" length="73877559" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:16:57</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>56</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>56</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season></item><item><title>07.49: Season Seven Ends Not With a Bang, but With a Kombucha Girl</title><itunes:title>Season Seven Ends Not With a Bang, but With a Kombucha Girl</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We’re wrapping up season seven by asking ourselves a simple question. Do we like this stuff? Yes? No? Maybe so?&nbsp;</p><p>We’ll be back in two weeks for the start of Season Eight of the podcast. Honestly, we remain amazed that y’all are with us on this journey. In a world full of madness, you bring us calm, joy and purpose, and we couldn’t be more grateful for you. Thank you so much for listening.</p><p>While you’re waiting for Season Eight, you’re welcome to join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.&nbsp;</p><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/20/style/kombucha-internet-viral.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Komboucha Girl was sick of seeing her face back in 2019</a>, and yet here we are.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hozier" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hozier</a> in concert was great, even if his parents were not stars on the NBC soap, Days of Our Lives. That was <a href="https://youtu.be/um5E8vMhlmI?si=yKBSNEkmzTiTm4uC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">John and Marlena.</a> The visuals on <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@kaileeheller/video/7513785977333239082" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Eat Your Young</a> and <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@ecbasha/video/7514006571702177070?is_from_webapp=1&amp;sender_device=pc&amp;web_id=7441414125622674990" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nina Cried Power</a> were especially moving and inspiring. Someone made<a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4CGhrCK78DIi7EjpBi6IGu?si=00ebda9df585464a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> a playlist of the Nina Cried power songs</a>, and now is a great time to listen to protest music.&nbsp;</li><li>The impact 50 Shades had on the sales of<a href="https://nypost.com/2012/06/07/fifty-shades-of-grey-spurs-sales-of-sex-accessories-bondage-material/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> ties (and other things) was real.&nbsp;</a></li><li>An article from MEL about <a href="https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/super-wet-blow-jobs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the wet problem, not just in romance, I guess.</a> (that’s a NSFW link based on the headline and content, okay.) Butts tie these two clips together: Miranda on SATC on <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@cosmopolitansandclouds/video/7231349494946762026" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“are we doing this now?”</a>&nbsp; and Tom Hanks in Sleepless in Seattle thinking&nbsp; <a href="https://youtu.be/ohCyNhm522s?si=Jn3OBrT05OVHmd_n" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“some lady is going to want to do it her.” </a>But overall, <a href="https://healthsciences.arizona.edu/news/blog/why-our-spit-important" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">spit is important.&nbsp;</a></li><li>Fucking her ass, saving her life is <a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/reviews/decadent_by_shayla_black/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a quote from a Shayla Black book and this amazing review from Smart Bitches, Trashy Books.</a> Truly a Romancelandia classic.&nbsp;</li><li>EM Forester described <a href="https://fictioneditorsopinions.com/2018/flat-and-round-characters/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">flat and round characters in Aspects of the Novel (1927).</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Second_Shift" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“The second shift”</a> is a phrase used by author Arlie Russell Hochschild to describe the housework and childrearing responsibilities faced by women after coming home from their day jobs.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</li><li>Commuting is really <a href="https://www.urban-transport-magazine.com/en/cost-of-commuting-in-the-us-a-comparison/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bad for your wallet</a> and <a href="https://youtu.be/kfPNxNIDHrA?si=O_9ekSa5GEFoe593" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bad for your health.&nbsp;</a></li><li><a href="https://farmersmarketcoalition.org/education/state-map/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Go to a farmer’s market</a> if you must. </li></ul><br/><h2>Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/45s3m6Y" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fifty Shades of Grey</a> by EL James</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/41WdOBl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What I Did for Love</a> by Susan Elizabeth Phillips</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4fKe24a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">These Summer Storms</a> by Sarah MacLean</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3HqmKIp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Never Judge a Lady by Her Cover</a> by Sarah MacLean</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/45MmZWa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Devil of Downtown</a> by Joanna Shupe</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4lG3Vie" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hans</a> by SJ Tilly</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3VjnsKx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Club</a> by Lauren Rowe</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/45G0Fxn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Merrily Ever After</a> by Jenny Holiday&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3HyLeiH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lothaire</a> by Kresley Cole</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4nf3qx5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ride Steady</a> by Kristen Ashley</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4mNpRsK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stuck Up Suit</a> by Vi Keeland and Penelope Ward</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/41kZUsq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Opposite of You</a> by Rachel Higginson</li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Blue Box Press</strong>, publishers of the <em>Hearts and Hidden Secrets: A Family Romance Collection</em> featuring Devney Perry, Helena Hunting, Lauren Blakely and Tijan, available at <a href="https://amzn.to/3Jch1X1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.</li><li><strong>Rose Prendeville</strong>, author of <em>Grace on the Rocks</em>, available at <a href="https://amzn.to/46SRmN0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/grace-on-the-rocks-rose-prendeville/1147013949?ean=9781955643153" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/grace-on-the-rocks-1?sId=83e8eecc-8cb3-4973-a63f-ac16235bdec6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/grace-on-the-rocks/id6742160611" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781955643153" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Avery Flynn</strong>, author of <em>Head Witch in Charge</em>, available at <a href="https://amzn.to/45dmS71" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/head-witch-in-charge-avery-flynn/1146625907?ean=9780593335239" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/head-witch-in-charge?sId=082767aa-5a0e-4b90-be97-30104731165d" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/head-witch-in-charge/id6738938274" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780593335239" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/8/21/0749-season-seven-ends-with-the-kombucha-gif </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We’re wrapping up season seven by asking ourselves a simple question. Do we like this stuff? Yes? No? Maybe so?&nbsp;</p><p>We’ll be back in two weeks for the start of Season Eight of the podcast. Honestly, we remain amazed that y’all are with us on this journey. In a world full of madness, you bring us calm, joy and purpose, and we couldn’t be more grateful for you. Thank you so much for listening.</p><p>While you’re waiting for Season Eight, you’re welcome to join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.&nbsp;</p><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/20/style/kombucha-internet-viral.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Komboucha Girl was sick of seeing her face back in 2019</a>, and yet here we are.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hozier" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hozier</a> in concert was great, even if his parents were not stars on the NBC soap, Days of Our Lives. That was <a href="https://youtu.be/um5E8vMhlmI?si=yKBSNEkmzTiTm4uC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">John and Marlena.</a> The visuals on <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@kaileeheller/video/7513785977333239082" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Eat Your Young</a> and <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@ecbasha/video/7514006571702177070?is_from_webapp=1&amp;sender_device=pc&amp;web_id=7441414125622674990" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nina Cried Power</a> were especially moving and inspiring. Someone made<a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4CGhrCK78DIi7EjpBi6IGu?si=00ebda9df585464a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> a playlist of the Nina Cried power songs</a>, and now is a great time to listen to protest music.&nbsp;</li><li>The impact 50 Shades had on the sales of<a href="https://nypost.com/2012/06/07/fifty-shades-of-grey-spurs-sales-of-sex-accessories-bondage-material/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> ties (and other things) was real.&nbsp;</a></li><li>An article from MEL about <a href="https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/super-wet-blow-jobs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the wet problem, not just in romance, I guess.</a> (that’s a NSFW link based on the headline and content, okay.) Butts tie these two clips together: Miranda on SATC on <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@cosmopolitansandclouds/video/7231349494946762026" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“are we doing this now?”</a>&nbsp; and Tom Hanks in Sleepless in Seattle thinking&nbsp; <a href="https://youtu.be/ohCyNhm522s?si=Jn3OBrT05OVHmd_n" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“some lady is going to want to do it her.” </a>But overall, <a href="https://healthsciences.arizona.edu/news/blog/why-our-spit-important" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">spit is important.&nbsp;</a></li><li>Fucking her ass, saving her life is <a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/reviews/decadent_by_shayla_black/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a quote from a Shayla Black book and this amazing review from Smart Bitches, Trashy Books.</a> Truly a Romancelandia classic.&nbsp;</li><li>EM Forester described <a href="https://fictioneditorsopinions.com/2018/flat-and-round-characters/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">flat and round characters in Aspects of the Novel (1927).</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Second_Shift" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“The second shift”</a> is a phrase used by author Arlie Russell Hochschild to describe the housework and childrearing responsibilities faced by women after coming home from their day jobs.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</li><li>Commuting is really <a href="https://www.urban-transport-magazine.com/en/cost-of-commuting-in-the-us-a-comparison/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bad for your wallet</a> and <a href="https://youtu.be/kfPNxNIDHrA?si=O_9ekSa5GEFoe593" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bad for your health.&nbsp;</a></li><li><a href="https://farmersmarketcoalition.org/education/state-map/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Go to a farmer’s market</a> if you must. </li></ul><br/><h2>Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/45s3m6Y" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fifty Shades of Grey</a> by EL James</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/41WdOBl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What I Did for Love</a> by Susan Elizabeth Phillips</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4fKe24a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">These Summer Storms</a> by Sarah MacLean</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3HqmKIp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Never Judge a Lady by Her Cover</a> by Sarah MacLean</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/45MmZWa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Devil of Downtown</a> by Joanna Shupe</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4lG3Vie" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hans</a> by SJ Tilly</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3VjnsKx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Club</a> by Lauren Rowe</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/45G0Fxn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Merrily Ever After</a> by Jenny Holiday&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3HyLeiH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lothaire</a> by Kresley Cole</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4nf3qx5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ride Steady</a> by Kristen Ashley</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4mNpRsK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stuck Up Suit</a> by Vi Keeland and Penelope Ward</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/41kZUsq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Opposite of You</a> by Rachel Higginson</li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Blue Box Press</strong>, publishers of the <em>Hearts and Hidden Secrets: A Family Romance Collection</em> featuring Devney Perry, Helena Hunting, Lauren Blakely and Tijan, available at <a href="https://amzn.to/3Jch1X1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.</li><li><strong>Rose Prendeville</strong>, author of <em>Grace on the Rocks</em>, available at <a href="https://amzn.to/46SRmN0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/grace-on-the-rocks-rose-prendeville/1147013949?ean=9781955643153" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/grace-on-the-rocks-1?sId=83e8eecc-8cb3-4973-a63f-ac16235bdec6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/grace-on-the-rocks/id6742160611" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781955643153" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Avery Flynn</strong>, author of <em>Head Witch in Charge</em>, available at <a href="https://amzn.to/45dmS71" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/head-witch-in-charge-avery-flynn/1146625907?ean=9780593335239" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/head-witch-in-charge?sId=082767aa-5a0e-4b90-be97-30104731165d" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/head-witch-in-charge/id6738938274" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780593335239" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/8/21/0749-season-seven-ends-with-the-kombucha-gif </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/8/21/0749-season-seven-ends-with-the-kombucha-gif]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">b0165e82-035c-4b70-91f6-8bac66df13f9</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2025 22:30:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/b0165e82-035c-4b70-91f6-8bac66df13f9.mp3" length="71852636" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:14:51</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>55</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>55</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-cef8e3f9-da62-4d2a-9e65-bb4d4c047cce.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S07.48: Con Artists &amp; Criminals With Joanna Shupe</title><itunes:title>Con Artists &amp; Criminals With Joanna Shupe</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Joanna Shupe joins us this week to celebrate her new book, The Gilded Heiress, and talk about one of our favorite things—baddies with a heart of gold! We talk about the book, about our mutual love of criminals, of noble scoundrels, of con artists and basically anyone willing to do crime in the name of love. We also talk about how everything Gilded Age is back again, which…ugh. We love Joanna and her book – come see us with her <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/qa-and-book-signing-with-joanna-shupe-tickets-1384555876899?aff=ebdsoporgprofile" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">in Chicago on August 28th</a> and in <a href="https://www.therippedbodice.com/brooklyn-events" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brooklyn on September 9th</a>.</p><p>You can get The Gilded Heiress right now in print, ebook or audio at <a href="https://amzn.to/4loi0AY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-gilded-heiress-joanna-shupe/1144082969?ean=9780063310322" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-gilded-heiress-1?sId=c35c7459-40df-4174-862c-642601e5129d" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-gilded-heiress/id6466823110" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063310315" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.&nbsp;</p><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome <a href="https://joannashupe.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joanna Shupe</a>, who writes mafia romance <a href="https://milafinelli.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">as Mila Finelli.</a> Next week, her historical <a href="https://amzn.to/4oGHaO3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Gilded Heiress</a> comes out next week. Earlier this summer, she released her latest in the New York State of Mafia series, <a href="https://amzn.to/4fR7oJK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Empire of Seduction</a>. You can see her on <a href="https://joannashupe.com/tgh-tour/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">book tour starting the week of August 26th</a>, including <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/qa-and-book-signing-with-joanna-shupe-tickets-1384555876899?aff=oddtdtcreator" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with Jen in Chicago on August 28th</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinkerton_(detective_agency)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pinkertons</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofBritain/Bow-Street-Runners/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bow Street Runners</a> were early cops and private investigators.&nbsp;</li><li>Check out <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@joannashupeauthor" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joanna’s TikTok</a>, which explores how the history of the Gilded Age is very relevant again: <a href="https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/the-art-of-the-really-stupid-deal" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tariffs</a> are pretty bad, actually; the attempt to build an <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/video/shorts/inside-a-whites-only-community-in-arkansas-243787333559" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">all white town in Arkansas</a>, inspired by <a href="https://www.britannica.com/topic/apartheid" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apartheid South Africa</a>, you can learn about <a href="https://justice.tougaloo.edu/sundown-towns/using-the-sundown-towns-database/state-map/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sundown Towns</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redlining" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Redlining</a>, and <a href="https://mappingprejudice.umn.edu/racial-covenants/what-is-a-covenant" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">racist housing covenants.&nbsp;</a></li><li><a href="https://www.hbomax.com/shows/deadwood/065d80dc-68c4-4770-8f7b-00279f91c6da/cast-and-crew/al-swearengen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Al Swearengen</a> is a character on the show Deadwood <a href="https://biographics.org/al-swearengen-the-devil-of-deadwood/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">based on a real person.</a></li><li>The Gilded Heiress pays homage to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anastasia_(1997_film)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Anastasia the Disney movie</a>, which is itself a retelling of the story of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Duchess_Anastasia_Nikolaevna_of_Russia" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Anastasia Romanov</a>. The novel also explores the famous crime of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindbergh_kidnapping" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the kidnapped Lindbergh Baby</a>.</li></ul><br/><h2>Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/45olPRT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gilded Heiress</a> by Joanna Shupe</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4fR7oJK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Empire of Seduction</a> by Mila Finelli</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3UDo4um" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Devil of Downtown</a> by Joanna Shupe</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3UzJt7G" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Any Old Diamonds</a> by KJ Charles</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46Yms5R" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Player</a> by Kresley Cole</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4mqo1hM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scoundrel, Take Me Away</a> by Louisa Darling</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3JFKoB9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Faking It</a> by Jennifer Crusie</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/45FQtVw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Highwayman</a> by Kerrigan Byrne</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4mvpIL2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Duke of Sin</a> by Elizabeth Hoyt</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4lEQP51" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Baron</a> by Joanna Shupe&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3UwkLFl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Good Rogue is Hard to Find</a> by Kelly Bowen</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4mHo6gO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Perfect Crimes of Marian Hayes</a> by Cat Sebastian</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/45rf2Xy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hidden Sins</a> by Selena Montgomery</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4lEQRd9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Unwanted Wife</a> by Natasha Anders</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4mOucvF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Private Arrangements</a> by Sherry Thomas</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4mrP10k" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Windflower</a> by Laura London</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Js4gYt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Something Wilder</a> by Christina Lauren</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4mN7RPh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Destiny’s Captive</a> by Beverly Jenkins</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/41O3GdM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Captured</a> by Beverly Jenkins</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4mHoeNk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">To Catch a Raven</a> by Beverly Jenkins</li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors:&nbsp;</h2><ul><li><strong>Amy Andrews, Pippa Roscoe, Rachael Stewart </strong>and<strong> Clare Connelly</strong>, authors of <em>The Karma Club </em>series, available in print or ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/45K3ley" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Maureen Lee Lenker</strong>, author of <em>His Girl Hollywood</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/3WsAMNW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/his-girl-hollywood-maureen-lee-lenker/1143940799?ean=9781728267913" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/his-girl-hollywood" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/his-girl-hollywood/id6462336560" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781728267913" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Lumi Gummies,</strong> THC gummies available nationwide. Go to <a href="https://lumigummies.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lumigummies.com</a> and use code FATEDMATES for 30% off.&nbsp;</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/8/18/0748-criminals-and-noble-scoundrels-with-joanna-shupe </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joanna Shupe joins us this week to celebrate her new book, The Gilded Heiress, and talk about one of our favorite things—baddies with a heart of gold! We talk about the book, about our mutual love of criminals, of noble scoundrels, of con artists and basically anyone willing to do crime in the name of love. We also talk about how everything Gilded Age is back again, which…ugh. We love Joanna and her book – come see us with her <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/qa-and-book-signing-with-joanna-shupe-tickets-1384555876899?aff=ebdsoporgprofile" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">in Chicago on August 28th</a> and in <a href="https://www.therippedbodice.com/brooklyn-events" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brooklyn on September 9th</a>.</p><p>You can get The Gilded Heiress right now in print, ebook or audio at <a href="https://amzn.to/4loi0AY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-gilded-heiress-joanna-shupe/1144082969?ean=9780063310322" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-gilded-heiress-1?sId=c35c7459-40df-4174-862c-642601e5129d" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-gilded-heiress/id6466823110" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063310315" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.&nbsp;</p><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome <a href="https://joannashupe.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joanna Shupe</a>, who writes mafia romance <a href="https://milafinelli.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">as Mila Finelli.</a> Next week, her historical <a href="https://amzn.to/4oGHaO3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Gilded Heiress</a> comes out next week. Earlier this summer, she released her latest in the New York State of Mafia series, <a href="https://amzn.to/4fR7oJK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Empire of Seduction</a>. You can see her on <a href="https://joannashupe.com/tgh-tour/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">book tour starting the week of August 26th</a>, including <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/qa-and-book-signing-with-joanna-shupe-tickets-1384555876899?aff=oddtdtcreator" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with Jen in Chicago on August 28th</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinkerton_(detective_agency)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pinkertons</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofBritain/Bow-Street-Runners/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bow Street Runners</a> were early cops and private investigators.&nbsp;</li><li>Check out <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@joannashupeauthor" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joanna’s TikTok</a>, which explores how the history of the Gilded Age is very relevant again: <a href="https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/the-art-of-the-really-stupid-deal" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tariffs</a> are pretty bad, actually; the attempt to build an <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/video/shorts/inside-a-whites-only-community-in-arkansas-243787333559" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">all white town in Arkansas</a>, inspired by <a href="https://www.britannica.com/topic/apartheid" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apartheid South Africa</a>, you can learn about <a href="https://justice.tougaloo.edu/sundown-towns/using-the-sundown-towns-database/state-map/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sundown Towns</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redlining" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Redlining</a>, and <a href="https://mappingprejudice.umn.edu/racial-covenants/what-is-a-covenant" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">racist housing covenants.&nbsp;</a></li><li><a href="https://www.hbomax.com/shows/deadwood/065d80dc-68c4-4770-8f7b-00279f91c6da/cast-and-crew/al-swearengen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Al Swearengen</a> is a character on the show Deadwood <a href="https://biographics.org/al-swearengen-the-devil-of-deadwood/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">based on a real person.</a></li><li>The Gilded Heiress pays homage to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anastasia_(1997_film)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Anastasia the Disney movie</a>, which is itself a retelling of the story of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Duchess_Anastasia_Nikolaevna_of_Russia" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Anastasia Romanov</a>. The novel also explores the famous crime of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindbergh_kidnapping" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the kidnapped Lindbergh Baby</a>.</li></ul><br/><h2>Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/45olPRT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gilded Heiress</a> by Joanna Shupe</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4fR7oJK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Empire of Seduction</a> by Mila Finelli</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3UDo4um" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Devil of Downtown</a> by Joanna Shupe</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3UzJt7G" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Any Old Diamonds</a> by KJ Charles</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46Yms5R" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Player</a> by Kresley Cole</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4mqo1hM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scoundrel, Take Me Away</a> by Louisa Darling</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3JFKoB9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Faking It</a> by Jennifer Crusie</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/45FQtVw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Highwayman</a> by Kerrigan Byrne</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4mvpIL2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Duke of Sin</a> by Elizabeth Hoyt</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4lEQP51" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Baron</a> by Joanna Shupe&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3UwkLFl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Good Rogue is Hard to Find</a> by Kelly Bowen</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4mHo6gO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Perfect Crimes of Marian Hayes</a> by Cat Sebastian</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/45rf2Xy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hidden Sins</a> by Selena Montgomery</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4lEQRd9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Unwanted Wife</a> by Natasha Anders</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4mOucvF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Private Arrangements</a> by Sherry Thomas</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4mrP10k" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Windflower</a> by Laura London</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Js4gYt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Something Wilder</a> by Christina Lauren</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4mN7RPh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Destiny’s Captive</a> by Beverly Jenkins</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/41O3GdM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Captured</a> by Beverly Jenkins</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4mHoeNk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">To Catch a Raven</a> by Beverly Jenkins</li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors:&nbsp;</h2><ul><li><strong>Amy Andrews, Pippa Roscoe, Rachael Stewart </strong>and<strong> Clare Connelly</strong>, authors of <em>The Karma Club </em>series, available in print or ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/45K3ley" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Maureen Lee Lenker</strong>, author of <em>His Girl Hollywood</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/3WsAMNW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/his-girl-hollywood-maureen-lee-lenker/1143940799?ean=9781728267913" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/his-girl-hollywood" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/his-girl-hollywood/id6462336560" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781728267913" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Lumi Gummies,</strong> THC gummies available nationwide. Go to <a href="https://lumigummies.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lumigummies.com</a> and use code FATEDMATES for 30% off.&nbsp;</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/8/18/0748-criminals-and-noble-scoundrels-with-joanna-shupe </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/8/18/0748-criminals-and-noble-scoundrels-with-joanna-shupe]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">7e7e42fd-5678-4361-9420-abae8baefad6</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2025 22:30:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/7e7e42fd-5678-4361-9420-abae8baefad6.mp3" length="85342934" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:28:54</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>54</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>54</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-4c8f29da-9fe2-474d-a96c-7bb12b41c993.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S07.47: Bodyguards</title><itunes:title>Bodyguards</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It’s Bodyguard Romance week, which feels impossible, honestly, considering we’ve definitely done this before, haven’t we? According to Eric and also the internet, we haven’t, which means we get to talk for the first time in seven seasons about why Bodyguards work so well for so many romance readers, including us! We talk about the basics – the innate joy of having an Exasperated Man™️ willing to put himself in front of a bullet for you, the absolute delight of the books that turn the whole thing on its head and make the protector the protected, and yes, Whitney Houston. Also, Jen makes a brilliant observation on surveillance culture and how it’s impacting romance. We’re keeping you safe from the baddies this week.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>In a recent interview <a href="https://www.digitalspy.com/showbiz/a366569/kevin-costner-on-whitney-houston-death-i-should-have-saved-her/?imdb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kevin Costner talked about his feelings about Whitney Houston</a>. <a href="https://youtu.be/lKsQR72HY0s?si=msCANh-jcJauyeSv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dolly Parton</a> and <a href="https://youtu.be/3JWTaaS7LdU?si=gQnPXgWK2Z1qjZqc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Whitney Houston</a>’s versions of <a href="https://www.stereogum.com/2174149/the-number-ones-whitney-houstons-i-will-always-love-you/columns/the-number-ones/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">I Will Always Love You</a>, Whitney’s <a href="https://youtu.be/JZGVUpXQHV4?si=JxESWAWAisi9vqS4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">isolated vocals on How Will I Know</a>, and Whitney sang <a href="https://youtu.be/_n9bxfxE25Y?si=bzFz1N3_pPSaBnwn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Star Spangled Banner at the Super Bowl in 1991</a> and <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/anthem-of-freedom-how-whitney-houston-remade-the-star-spangled-banner" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the New Yorker article about it.</a>&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/difficultwomanreads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Caroline</a> has created <a href="https://fatedmates.net/i-can-be-your-bodyguard-romance-recs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a bodyguard collection</a> featuring books across subgenres.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Big_Easy_(film)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Big Easy</a> is a movie with Dennis Quaid <a href="https://www.vanityfair.com/style/story/dennis-quaid-donald-trump-rally-coachella?srsltid=AfmBOoqzxvnoqScbrwctLDUrbpil_Exjc6QgEfmdErQonvt2GOW82HgH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">(he’s crazy now)</a> and Ellen Barkin where he is a cop who uncovers corruption on the force.&nbsp;</li><li>Everyone, it looks like this thing about <a href="https://wyomingdci.wyo.gov/operations/pi-faqs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">not needing a PI license in the state of Wyomin</a>g is legit, go forth and spread the news. </li></ul><br/><h2>Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46TNNGf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Princess</a> by Galen Foley</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4mcnAaC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hans</a> by SJ Tilly</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3UYWjwk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wyoming Bodyguard</a> by Danielle Haas</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46OyGxO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Wilde Ways Series</a> by Cynthia Eden</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4owwm4T" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tough Luck</a> by Annabeth Albert</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4fSoJ57" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Billionaire’s Bodyguard</a> by Emma Holly</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4mgdN3x" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sexy/Dangerous</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/3HxHaiz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rare Danger</a> by Beverly Jenkins</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46VaUAo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Burned Dreams</a> by Neva Altaj</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/41GlTKj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Duke to Remember</a> by Kelly Bowen</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4fx0Srr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ace of Hearts</a> by Renee Rose</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/45uy6CT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Keep Her Safe</a> QB Tyler</li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors:&nbsp;&nbsp;</h2><ul><li><strong>Blue Box Press</strong>, publishers of the <em>Duty and Desire: A Uniformed Heroes &amp; Bodyguard </em>anthology featuring Aurora Rose Reynolds, Kristen Ashley, Kylie Scott &amp; Rebecca Zanetti available at <a href="https://amzn.to/4mn4uyw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><strong>Hunter Snow</strong>, author of <em>Gone Country</em>, available at <a href="https://amzn.to/3UqKMWv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/gone-country-hunter-snow/1147454431?ean=9781739047641" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781739047641" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><strong>Lumi Gummies,</strong> THC gummies available nationwide. Go to <a href="https://lumigummies.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lumigummies.com</a> and use code FATEDMATES for 30% off.&nbsp;</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/8/12/0747-bodyguards </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p><p>&nbsp;</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s Bodyguard Romance week, which feels impossible, honestly, considering we’ve definitely done this before, haven’t we? According to Eric and also the internet, we haven’t, which means we get to talk for the first time in seven seasons about why Bodyguards work so well for so many romance readers, including us! We talk about the basics – the innate joy of having an Exasperated Man™️ willing to put himself in front of a bullet for you, the absolute delight of the books that turn the whole thing on its head and make the protector the protected, and yes, Whitney Houston. Also, Jen makes a brilliant observation on surveillance culture and how it’s impacting romance. We’re keeping you safe from the baddies this week.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>In a recent interview <a href="https://www.digitalspy.com/showbiz/a366569/kevin-costner-on-whitney-houston-death-i-should-have-saved-her/?imdb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kevin Costner talked about his feelings about Whitney Houston</a>. <a href="https://youtu.be/lKsQR72HY0s?si=msCANh-jcJauyeSv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dolly Parton</a> and <a href="https://youtu.be/3JWTaaS7LdU?si=gQnPXgWK2Z1qjZqc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Whitney Houston</a>’s versions of <a href="https://www.stereogum.com/2174149/the-number-ones-whitney-houstons-i-will-always-love-you/columns/the-number-ones/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">I Will Always Love You</a>, Whitney’s <a href="https://youtu.be/JZGVUpXQHV4?si=JxESWAWAisi9vqS4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">isolated vocals on How Will I Know</a>, and Whitney sang <a href="https://youtu.be/_n9bxfxE25Y?si=bzFz1N3_pPSaBnwn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Star Spangled Banner at the Super Bowl in 1991</a> and <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/anthem-of-freedom-how-whitney-houston-remade-the-star-spangled-banner" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the New Yorker article about it.</a>&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/difficultwomanreads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Caroline</a> has created <a href="https://fatedmates.net/i-can-be-your-bodyguard-romance-recs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a bodyguard collection</a> featuring books across subgenres.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Big_Easy_(film)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Big Easy</a> is a movie with Dennis Quaid <a href="https://www.vanityfair.com/style/story/dennis-quaid-donald-trump-rally-coachella?srsltid=AfmBOoqzxvnoqScbrwctLDUrbpil_Exjc6QgEfmdErQonvt2GOW82HgH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">(he’s crazy now)</a> and Ellen Barkin where he is a cop who uncovers corruption on the force.&nbsp;</li><li>Everyone, it looks like this thing about <a href="https://wyomingdci.wyo.gov/operations/pi-faqs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">not needing a PI license in the state of Wyomin</a>g is legit, go forth and spread the news. </li></ul><br/><h2>Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46TNNGf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Princess</a> by Galen Foley</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4mcnAaC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hans</a> by SJ Tilly</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3UYWjwk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wyoming Bodyguard</a> by Danielle Haas</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46OyGxO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Wilde Ways Series</a> by Cynthia Eden</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4owwm4T" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tough Luck</a> by Annabeth Albert</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4fSoJ57" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Billionaire’s Bodyguard</a> by Emma Holly</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4mgdN3x" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sexy/Dangerous</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/3HxHaiz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rare Danger</a> by Beverly Jenkins</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46VaUAo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Burned Dreams</a> by Neva Altaj</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/41GlTKj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Duke to Remember</a> by Kelly Bowen</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4fx0Srr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ace of Hearts</a> by Renee Rose</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/45uy6CT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Keep Her Safe</a> QB Tyler</li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors:&nbsp;&nbsp;</h2><ul><li><strong>Blue Box Press</strong>, publishers of the <em>Duty and Desire: A Uniformed Heroes &amp; Bodyguard </em>anthology featuring Aurora Rose Reynolds, Kristen Ashley, Kylie Scott &amp; Rebecca Zanetti available at <a href="https://amzn.to/4mn4uyw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><strong>Hunter Snow</strong>, author of <em>Gone Country</em>, available at <a href="https://amzn.to/3UqKMWv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/gone-country-hunter-snow/1147454431?ean=9781739047641" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781739047641" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><strong>Lumi Gummies,</strong> THC gummies available nationwide. Go to <a href="https://lumigummies.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lumigummies.com</a> and use code FATEDMATES for 30% off.&nbsp;</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/8/12/0747-bodyguards </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p><p>&nbsp;</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/8/12/0747-bodyguards]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">db4ce616-3c98-4d87-ac8d-2cc5721c88e6</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2025 23:45:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/db4ce616-3c98-4d87-ac8d-2cc5721c88e6.mp3" length="86763200" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:30:23</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>53</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>53</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-90db5221-c079-4876-ab58-16afcb5cf700.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>07.46: Natural Born Charmer by Susan Elizabeth Phillips</title><itunes:title>Natural Born Charmer by Susan Elizabeth Phillips</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We're back with a deep dive episode on one of our favorite Susan Elizabeth Phillips books, <em>Natural Born Charmer</em>. Jen thinks this one marks SEP's Imperial Period, and Sarah looks askance at the term romcom to describe romance novels. We're back on our bullsh*t, is what we're saying. We're talking plot, character, risk-taking, and how romances can feel wildly expansive.</p><p>This is our last deep dive of Season 7 -- more in Season 8, which begins in September. If you want to talk in depth about specific books, though, maybe you'd enjoy being a member of our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.   </p><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>You can get Susan Elizabeth Phillips's <em>Natural Born Charmer</em> at <a href="https://amzn.to/4lGNfbc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/natural-born-charmer-susan-elizabeth-phillips/1100554753" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/natural-born-charmer" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/natural-born-charmer/id360606457" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780060734589" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li>In season 2, we did a deep dive of an earlier Chicago Stars book, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/3/30/s0230-nobodys-baby-but-mine-by-susan-elizabeth-phillips-" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nobody’s Baby But Mine</a>. We also did <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/7/6/s0346-susan-elizabeth-phillips" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">an episode with Susan in season 3</a>. It’s the interview that made us realize we should keep interviewing romance trailblazers. <a href="https://learningthetropes.podbean.com/e/kiss-an-angel-by-susan-elizabeth-phillips-wjen-prokop-episode-99/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen was on Learning the Tropes to talk about another SEP book, Kiss an Angel.&nbsp;</a></li><li>In 2003, <a href="https://youtu.be/PWgvGjAhvIw?si=9_CwU7KJ41hbIckj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the song Hey Ya by Outkast</a> was number 1 for 9 weeks at the end of that year and into early 2004. In 2018, Rolling Stone ranked <a href="https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/the-100-greatest-songs-of-the-century-so-far-666874/the-scientist-coldplay-666809/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the song #4 in the top 100 songs of the 21st Century So Far</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>This article from Spin describes what it means when an artist is <a href="https://pitchfork.com/features/poptimist/7811-poptimist-29/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">in their imperial period.</a>&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.gq.com/story/burt-reynolds-regrets-bearskin-rug-picture" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sleazy Burt Reynolds guy.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.npr.org/2025/06/12/1254056486/revisiting-almost-famous-25-years-later" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Almost Famous (2000) is amazing movie</a> about the rise and fall of a 70s rock band. </li><li><a href="https://people.com/baby-girl-takes-her-first-steps-ever-as-she-competes-in-crawling-race-11784418" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A great thing happened during the baby races halftime show</a> last week at a Las Vegas Aces game last week. Also at the <a href="https://www.instagram.com/reel/DMxoT3mhfHK/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Indiana Fever</a> game. </li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Scarlett Xavier</strong>, author of <em>Irish Fire and Forbidden Love</em>, available in print or ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/41sPpmL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Avon Books</strong>, publishers of Mason Deaver's <em>The Build-a-Boyfriend Project</em>, available at <a href="https://amzn.to/45ml0aK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-build-a-boyfriend-project-mason-deaver/1146515194?ean=9780063394308" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-build-a-boyfriend-project?sId=eef13d76-e5f5-41c5-8b49-6070f81e6caf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-build-a-boyfriend-project/id6737802269" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063394308" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Claire Trella Hill</strong>, author of <em>Black and Deep Desires</em>, available at <a href="https://amzn.to/3UKRlDl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/black-and-deep-desires-claire-trella-hill/1143977019?ean=2940167379916" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/black-and-deep-desires-1?sId=64e97a64-3354-4799-a957-ba7db18f0085" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://books.apple.com/gb/book/black-and-deep-desires/id6463138692" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9798988346302" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Avon Books</strong>, publishers of Holly Michelle's <em>Last Night Was Fun</em>, available in print, ebook or audio from <a href="https://amzn.to/3SM7XK4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/last-night-was-fun/id6670788917" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/last-night-was-fun-holly-michelle/1146276771" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/last-night-was-fun" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063420366" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/8/4/0746-natural-born-charmer-by-susan-elizabeth-phillips </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We're back with a deep dive episode on one of our favorite Susan Elizabeth Phillips books, <em>Natural Born Charmer</em>. Jen thinks this one marks SEP's Imperial Period, and Sarah looks askance at the term romcom to describe romance novels. We're back on our bullsh*t, is what we're saying. We're talking plot, character, risk-taking, and how romances can feel wildly expansive.</p><p>This is our last deep dive of Season 7 -- more in Season 8, which begins in September. If you want to talk in depth about specific books, though, maybe you'd enjoy being a member of our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.   </p><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>You can get Susan Elizabeth Phillips's <em>Natural Born Charmer</em> at <a href="https://amzn.to/4lGNfbc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/natural-born-charmer-susan-elizabeth-phillips/1100554753" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/natural-born-charmer" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/natural-born-charmer/id360606457" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780060734589" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li>In season 2, we did a deep dive of an earlier Chicago Stars book, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/3/30/s0230-nobodys-baby-but-mine-by-susan-elizabeth-phillips-" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nobody’s Baby But Mine</a>. We also did <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/7/6/s0346-susan-elizabeth-phillips" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">an episode with Susan in season 3</a>. It’s the interview that made us realize we should keep interviewing romance trailblazers. <a href="https://learningthetropes.podbean.com/e/kiss-an-angel-by-susan-elizabeth-phillips-wjen-prokop-episode-99/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen was on Learning the Tropes to talk about another SEP book, Kiss an Angel.&nbsp;</a></li><li>In 2003, <a href="https://youtu.be/PWgvGjAhvIw?si=9_CwU7KJ41hbIckj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the song Hey Ya by Outkast</a> was number 1 for 9 weeks at the end of that year and into early 2004. In 2018, Rolling Stone ranked <a href="https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/the-100-greatest-songs-of-the-century-so-far-666874/the-scientist-coldplay-666809/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the song #4 in the top 100 songs of the 21st Century So Far</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>This article from Spin describes what it means when an artist is <a href="https://pitchfork.com/features/poptimist/7811-poptimist-29/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">in their imperial period.</a>&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.gq.com/story/burt-reynolds-regrets-bearskin-rug-picture" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sleazy Burt Reynolds guy.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.npr.org/2025/06/12/1254056486/revisiting-almost-famous-25-years-later" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Almost Famous (2000) is amazing movie</a> about the rise and fall of a 70s rock band. </li><li><a href="https://people.com/baby-girl-takes-her-first-steps-ever-as-she-competes-in-crawling-race-11784418" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A great thing happened during the baby races halftime show</a> last week at a Las Vegas Aces game last week. Also at the <a href="https://www.instagram.com/reel/DMxoT3mhfHK/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Indiana Fever</a> game. </li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Scarlett Xavier</strong>, author of <em>Irish Fire and Forbidden Love</em>, available in print or ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/41sPpmL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Avon Books</strong>, publishers of Mason Deaver's <em>The Build-a-Boyfriend Project</em>, available at <a href="https://amzn.to/45ml0aK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-build-a-boyfriend-project-mason-deaver/1146515194?ean=9780063394308" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-build-a-boyfriend-project?sId=eef13d76-e5f5-41c5-8b49-6070f81e6caf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-build-a-boyfriend-project/id6737802269" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063394308" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Claire Trella Hill</strong>, author of <em>Black and Deep Desires</em>, available at <a href="https://amzn.to/3UKRlDl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/black-and-deep-desires-claire-trella-hill/1143977019?ean=2940167379916" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/black-and-deep-desires-1?sId=64e97a64-3354-4799-a957-ba7db18f0085" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://books.apple.com/gb/book/black-and-deep-desires/id6463138692" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9798988346302" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Avon Books</strong>, publishers of Holly Michelle's <em>Last Night Was Fun</em>, available in print, ebook or audio from <a href="https://amzn.to/3SM7XK4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/last-night-was-fun/id6670788917" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/last-night-was-fun-holly-michelle/1146276771" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/last-night-was-fun" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063420366" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/8/4/0746-natural-born-charmer-by-susan-elizabeth-phillips </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/8/4/0746-natural-born-charmer-by-susan-elizabeth-phillips]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">07e1e825-4380-4d69-8b68-65f1f8670baf</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2025 23:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/07e1e825-4380-4d69-8b68-65f1f8670baf.mp3" length="85070473" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:28:37</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>51</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>51</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-5c026e31-012a-4b0e-b036-c4b1c6712cb4.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S07.45: Reading Down Under: Australian Romance Novelists</title><itunes:title>Reading Down Under: Australian Romance Novelists</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>By request (and because Sarah needed books for her upcoming trip), we're talking about romance novels by Australian authors this week, with a nod to some New Zealanders as well. We discuss how historical romance has much maligned Australia, recommend some absolutely terrific books, many of which we've actually done deep dives on, and we talk about why so many Australian romances hit the spot with American readers. </p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.  </p><p>Our next read along (next week!) is Susan Elizabeth Phillips's <em>Natural Born Charmer</em>. You can get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/4lGNfbc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/natural-born-charmer-susan-elizabeth-phillips/1100554753" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/natural-born-charmer" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/natural-born-charmer/id360606457" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780060734589" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</p><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Kiss_(1995_film)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">French Kiss</a> is not available on streamers and it's very upsetting for those of us who know the deep magic of Kevin Kline &amp; Meg Ryan.</li><li>Australia is not&nbsp;the nation of criminals historical romance novels would like you to believe, <a href="https://www.nma.gov.au/defining-moments/resources/convict-transportation-peaks" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">but a lot of criminals did get sent there over an 80 year period from 1788-1868.</a></li><li>Sarah is going to talk to the <a href="https://romanceaustralia.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Romance Writers of Australia</a> and the&nbsp; <a href="https://www.romancewriters.co.nz/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Romance Writers of New Zealand</a> next month. Yes, she'll be going to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Arthur,_Tasmania" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Port Arthur</a> in Tasmania to check out the place where all those criminals were sent.</li><li><a href="https://fineartamerica.com/featured/dream-fever-victor-gadino.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Victor Gadino illustrated the stepback</a> for <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7149884-dream-fever" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dream Fever by Katherine Sutcliffe</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mills_%26_Boon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mills &amp; Boon </a>is a British romance imprint, in North America these books are published under the name Harlequin. </li><li>When Sarah talked about The Australians in the early years of Mills &amp; Boon, she was wrong, and likely thinking of <a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/title/the-australian~diana-palmer~29268.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Diana Palmer's 1985 <em>The Australian</em></a>. <a href="https://www.harlequin.com/shop/miniseries/the-australians.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Australians series</a> was a 12 book series in the early 2010s from Harlequin Presents. </li><li>The book <em>Raising the Stakes</em> by Jess Dee is no longer available in Kindle, but maybe it is in other countries or maybe you downloaded it in the past? <a href="https://amzn.to/41gLeub" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Check out her available titles here.</a> </li></ul><br/><h2>Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/476ZGZn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dream Fever</a> by Katherine Sutcliffe</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/45f7uWJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Sydney Smoke Series</a> by Amy Andrews</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3UySEVN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Claiming the Courtesan</a> by Anna Campbell</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4miFus3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Devil’s Bride</a> and the Cynster family by Stephanie Laurens (<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/3/17/s0228-devils-bride-by-stephanie-laurens" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">listen to the deep dive</a>)</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/45bnEQG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wildflowers</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/3IRdcX5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lies</a>, and <a href="https://amzn.to/3GXoo3Z" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">It Seemed Like a Good Idea at the Time</a> by Kylie Scott (<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/12/8/s0415-caressed-by-ice-by-nalini-singh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">listen to the deep dive</a> of Kylie's Stage Dive series)</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40J9y7U" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Captivated</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/4o96wng" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Act Your Age</a> by Eve Dangerfield</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/45rVqSY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Office Affair</a> by Jess Dee</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/44QQ4R8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Milvus Files</a> by NR Walker</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3H85RSo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Last Binding Series</a> by Freya Marske</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4o7nL8N" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Baby in his In-Tray</a> by Michelle Douglas</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46y9wDt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Autumn Bride</a> by Anne Gracie</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Hb95Vf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Return of Her Billionaire Husband</a> by Melanie Milburne</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4obrcev" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fugitive Bride</a> by Miranda Lee&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/45aBUcm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Home</a> by Jezz De Silva</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/474lFjG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Caressed by Ice</a> by Nalini Singh (<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/12/8/s0415-caressed-by-ice-by-nalini-singh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">listen to the deep dive</a>)</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4l5CXQZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Devil’s Submission</a> by Nicola Davidson</li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>World Gone Wrong: A fictional chat show about friendship at the end of the world</strong>, available at <a href="https://www.audaciousmachinecreative.com/world-gone-wrong" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">audaciousmachinecreative.com</a> and <a href="https://pod.link/1733343393" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you listen to podcasts</a>.</li><li><strong>Sophie Morgan</strong>, author of <em>Season of the Witch</em>, available at <a href="https://amzn.to/4lPissJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/season-of-the-witch-sophie-h-morgan/1146612484?ean=9780369764287" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/season-of-the-witch-32?sId=3561194d-4618-4372-941a-133b357e2101" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/season-of-the-witch/id6738783016" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781335016386" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>. </li><li><strong>Louisa Darling</strong>, author of <em>Scoundrel Take Me Away</em>, available at <a href="https://amzn.to/40GBrgK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/scoundrel-take-me-away-louisa-darling/1147900634?ean=2940181354593" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/scoundrel-take-me-away" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/scoundrel-take-me-away/id6749157952" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>. </li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/7/29/0745-australian-romance-authors </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By request (and because Sarah needed books for her upcoming trip), we're talking about romance novels by Australian authors this week, with a nod to some New Zealanders as well. We discuss how historical romance has much maligned Australia, recommend some absolutely terrific books, many of which we've actually done deep dives on, and we talk about why so many Australian romances hit the spot with American readers. </p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.  </p><p>Our next read along (next week!) is Susan Elizabeth Phillips's <em>Natural Born Charmer</em>. You can get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/4lGNfbc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/natural-born-charmer-susan-elizabeth-phillips/1100554753" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/natural-born-charmer" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/natural-born-charmer/id360606457" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780060734589" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</p><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Kiss_(1995_film)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">French Kiss</a> is not available on streamers and it's very upsetting for those of us who know the deep magic of Kevin Kline &amp; Meg Ryan.</li><li>Australia is not&nbsp;the nation of criminals historical romance novels would like you to believe, <a href="https://www.nma.gov.au/defining-moments/resources/convict-transportation-peaks" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">but a lot of criminals did get sent there over an 80 year period from 1788-1868.</a></li><li>Sarah is going to talk to the <a href="https://romanceaustralia.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Romance Writers of Australia</a> and the&nbsp; <a href="https://www.romancewriters.co.nz/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Romance Writers of New Zealand</a> next month. Yes, she'll be going to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Arthur,_Tasmania" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Port Arthur</a> in Tasmania to check out the place where all those criminals were sent.</li><li><a href="https://fineartamerica.com/featured/dream-fever-victor-gadino.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Victor Gadino illustrated the stepback</a> for <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7149884-dream-fever" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dream Fever by Katherine Sutcliffe</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mills_%26_Boon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mills &amp; Boon </a>is a British romance imprint, in North America these books are published under the name Harlequin. </li><li>When Sarah talked about The Australians in the early years of Mills &amp; Boon, she was wrong, and likely thinking of <a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/title/the-australian~diana-palmer~29268.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Diana Palmer's 1985 <em>The Australian</em></a>. <a href="https://www.harlequin.com/shop/miniseries/the-australians.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Australians series</a> was a 12 book series in the early 2010s from Harlequin Presents. </li><li>The book <em>Raising the Stakes</em> by Jess Dee is no longer available in Kindle, but maybe it is in other countries or maybe you downloaded it in the past? <a href="https://amzn.to/41gLeub" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Check out her available titles here.</a> </li></ul><br/><h2>Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/476ZGZn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dream Fever</a> by Katherine Sutcliffe</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/45f7uWJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Sydney Smoke Series</a> by Amy Andrews</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3UySEVN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Claiming the Courtesan</a> by Anna Campbell</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4miFus3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Devil’s Bride</a> and the Cynster family by Stephanie Laurens (<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/3/17/s0228-devils-bride-by-stephanie-laurens" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">listen to the deep dive</a>)</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/45bnEQG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wildflowers</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/3IRdcX5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lies</a>, and <a href="https://amzn.to/3GXoo3Z" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">It Seemed Like a Good Idea at the Time</a> by Kylie Scott (<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/12/8/s0415-caressed-by-ice-by-nalini-singh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">listen to the deep dive</a> of Kylie's Stage Dive series)</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40J9y7U" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Captivated</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/4o96wng" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Act Your Age</a> by Eve Dangerfield</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/45rVqSY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Office Affair</a> by Jess Dee</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/44QQ4R8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Milvus Files</a> by NR Walker</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3H85RSo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Last Binding Series</a> by Freya Marske</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4o7nL8N" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Baby in his In-Tray</a> by Michelle Douglas</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46y9wDt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Autumn Bride</a> by Anne Gracie</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Hb95Vf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Return of Her Billionaire Husband</a> by Melanie Milburne</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4obrcev" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fugitive Bride</a> by Miranda Lee&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/45aBUcm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Home</a> by Jezz De Silva</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/474lFjG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Caressed by Ice</a> by Nalini Singh (<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/12/8/s0415-caressed-by-ice-by-nalini-singh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">listen to the deep dive</a>)</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4l5CXQZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Devil’s Submission</a> by Nicola Davidson</li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>World Gone Wrong: A fictional chat show about friendship at the end of the world</strong>, available at <a href="https://www.audaciousmachinecreative.com/world-gone-wrong" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">audaciousmachinecreative.com</a> and <a href="https://pod.link/1733343393" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you listen to podcasts</a>.</li><li><strong>Sophie Morgan</strong>, author of <em>Season of the Witch</em>, available at <a href="https://amzn.to/4lPissJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/season-of-the-witch-sophie-h-morgan/1146612484?ean=9780369764287" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/season-of-the-witch-32?sId=3561194d-4618-4372-941a-133b357e2101" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/season-of-the-witch/id6738783016" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781335016386" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>. </li><li><strong>Louisa Darling</strong>, author of <em>Scoundrel Take Me Away</em>, available at <a href="https://amzn.to/40GBrgK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/scoundrel-take-me-away-louisa-darling/1147900634?ean=2940181354593" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/scoundrel-take-me-away" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/scoundrel-take-me-away/id6749157952" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>. </li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/7/29/0745-australian-romance-authors </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/7/29/0745-australian-romance-authors]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">fbdf7b6f-4026-453a-83c0-107d6407cdff</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2025 11:26:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/fbdf7b6f-4026-453a-83c0-107d6407cdff.mp3" length="94674334" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:38:37</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>50</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>50</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-37d24e75-6547-43bf-befb-51220a7c820a.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S07.44: Relentless Competence &amp; Fixers in Romance</title><itunes:title>Relentless Competence &amp; Fixers in Romance</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It's been several years since the last time we talked about the allure of competency in romance, but it's a topic we adore, so here we are again, talking about characters with relentless competence and the characters who love them beyond measure. If you're new here, welcome! We're happy to have you!</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.  </p><p>Our next read along is Susan Elizabeth Phillips's <em>Natural Born Charmer</em>. You can get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/4lGNfbc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/natural-born-charmer-susan-elizabeth-phillips/1100554753" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/natural-born-charmer" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/natural-born-charmer/id360606457" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780060734589" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</p><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>The <a href="https://amzn.to/45gWtoL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">These Summer Storms</a> tour is a wrap, ending with Sarah in conversation with&nbsp; Rebecca Baumann from <a href="https://youtu.be/Ctf2ty08mK8?si=1U1eGmPsQUFKkwRB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Lilly Library</a> at <a href="https://www.mallowrun.com/wines/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Mallow Run vineyard</a>. </li><li>That one movie with Keanu Reeves and a vineyard is called <a href="https://youtu.be/N_EHFohIfRg?si=5v5UPk0f6g_WFfYR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Walk in the Clouds</a> (1995). </li><li>You can’t grow grapes anywhere, but <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wine-producing_regions#" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">you can grow them in a lot more places than you’d think.</a>&nbsp;</li><li>The Nora Roberts book about fossils called <a href="https://amzn.to/4kYpz0V" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Birthright</a>, and here’s the <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/RomanceBooks/comments/z18o2q/lisa_kleypas_romance_books_as_manga_comics_title/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">manga Dreaming of Yo</a>u. Look at all these editions of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/theheightsbookshelf/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wuthering Heights</a>.</li><li><a href="https://robimes.blogspot.com/2020/01/a-guide-to-category-romance-series-1965.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Airmont career series</a>. </li><li>Here’s a recent <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/researchers-announce-new-effort-find-amelia-earharts-plane-rcna216286" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">update on the search for Amelia Earhart’s plane</a> from just a few weeks ago. </li><li>Watch the <a href="https://news.delta.com/hundred-years-safety-delta-debuts-new-onboard-safety-video-featuring-pieces-its-history" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">video of Delta’s flight crew uniforms</a> over time. </li><li>Jen was interviewed by Lauren Sarner from the New York Post for <a href="https://nypost.com/2025/07/16/entertainment/why-do-love-triangles-endure-in-pop-culture-summer-i-turned-pretty-and-more/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">an article about love triangles in pop culture</a> because of the return of The Summer I Turned Pretty. </li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4kP0Dch" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ranger vs Morelli</a> has been going on for far too long, or maybe it’s over?</li><li>We last officially <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/10/29/s028-competence-amp-careers-in-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">talked about careers back in Season 2, episode 8.</a></li><li>Speaking of fixers, you might enjoy the movie <a href="https://youtu.be/5kJRYBhG43Q?si=-XCSRUdb6Q2JsE9P" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Michael Clayton.</a></li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/D5Df191WJ3o?si=c_OlKWjbfZtSAdBH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Our next deep dive is <a href="https://amzn.to/40z8rHP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Natural Born Charmer</a> by Susan Elizabeth Phillips.</li></ul><br/><h2>Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/44ZkoYK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Georgie All Along</a> by Kate Clayborn</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4o2vtRn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Out with Lanterns</a> by Hillary Bowen</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/45f1LkF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Tropical Rebel Gets the Duke </a>by Adriana Herrera&nbsp;&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4f04FwW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Single Player</a> by Tara Tai</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4mrUcx5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Duke of My Heart</a> by Kelly Bowen</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/44GtfzA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pugs &amp; Kisses</a> by Farrah Rochon</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/44LWsJy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wanted, A Gentleman</a> by KJ Charles</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40uCpwD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cowboy, It’s Cold Outside</a> by Maisey Yates</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4kTphZd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Evernight</a> by Kristen Callihan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/416Ystg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Queen Move</a> by Kennedy Ryan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4kSgqXO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Fixer</a> by Helenkay Dimon</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3TO31F4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">King</a> by SJ Tilly</li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Hillary Bowen</strong>, author of Out With Lanterns<em>, </em>available in print and ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/4kQ4CFm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/out-with-lanterns-hillary-bowen/1147520735?ean=9781069303417" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/out-with-lanterns?sId=bc862e4b-ba98-45df-86aa-2dc9f6bcf9db" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/out-with-lanterns/id6746734609" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, and <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781069303400" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>.</li><li><strong>Wattpad Books</strong>, publisher of Z.W. Taylor's <em>The Pack</em>, available in print, ebook and audio from <a href="https://amzn.to/44VdW4U" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-pack-zw-taylor/1146455296?ean=9781998341115" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-pack-45?sId=82f87cf1-46c0-4b2b-babb-b3ffede682fe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-pack/id6747301394" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, and <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781998341108" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>.</li><li><strong>Lumi Gummies,</strong> THC gummies available nationwide. Go to <a href="https://lumigummies.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lumigummies.com</a> and use code FATEDMATES for 30% off.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/7/22/0744-jobs-careers-and-fixers-in-romance </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's been several years since the last time we talked about the allure of competency in romance, but it's a topic we adore, so here we are again, talking about characters with relentless competence and the characters who love them beyond measure. If you're new here, welcome! We're happy to have you!</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.  </p><p>Our next read along is Susan Elizabeth Phillips's <em>Natural Born Charmer</em>. You can get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/4lGNfbc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/natural-born-charmer-susan-elizabeth-phillips/1100554753" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/natural-born-charmer" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/natural-born-charmer/id360606457" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780060734589" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</p><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>The <a href="https://amzn.to/45gWtoL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">These Summer Storms</a> tour is a wrap, ending with Sarah in conversation with&nbsp; Rebecca Baumann from <a href="https://youtu.be/Ctf2ty08mK8?si=1U1eGmPsQUFKkwRB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Lilly Library</a> at <a href="https://www.mallowrun.com/wines/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Mallow Run vineyard</a>. </li><li>That one movie with Keanu Reeves and a vineyard is called <a href="https://youtu.be/N_EHFohIfRg?si=5v5UPk0f6g_WFfYR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Walk in the Clouds</a> (1995). </li><li>You can’t grow grapes anywhere, but <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wine-producing_regions#" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">you can grow them in a lot more places than you’d think.</a>&nbsp;</li><li>The Nora Roberts book about fossils called <a href="https://amzn.to/4kYpz0V" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Birthright</a>, and here’s the <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/RomanceBooks/comments/z18o2q/lisa_kleypas_romance_books_as_manga_comics_title/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">manga Dreaming of Yo</a>u. Look at all these editions of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/theheightsbookshelf/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wuthering Heights</a>.</li><li><a href="https://robimes.blogspot.com/2020/01/a-guide-to-category-romance-series-1965.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Airmont career series</a>. </li><li>Here’s a recent <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/researchers-announce-new-effort-find-amelia-earharts-plane-rcna216286" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">update on the search for Amelia Earhart’s plane</a> from just a few weeks ago. </li><li>Watch the <a href="https://news.delta.com/hundred-years-safety-delta-debuts-new-onboard-safety-video-featuring-pieces-its-history" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">video of Delta’s flight crew uniforms</a> over time. </li><li>Jen was interviewed by Lauren Sarner from the New York Post for <a href="https://nypost.com/2025/07/16/entertainment/why-do-love-triangles-endure-in-pop-culture-summer-i-turned-pretty-and-more/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">an article about love triangles in pop culture</a> because of the return of The Summer I Turned Pretty. </li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4kP0Dch" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ranger vs Morelli</a> has been going on for far too long, or maybe it’s over?</li><li>We last officially <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/10/29/s028-competence-amp-careers-in-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">talked about careers back in Season 2, episode 8.</a></li><li>Speaking of fixers, you might enjoy the movie <a href="https://youtu.be/5kJRYBhG43Q?si=-XCSRUdb6Q2JsE9P" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Michael Clayton.</a></li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/D5Df191WJ3o?si=c_OlKWjbfZtSAdBH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Our next deep dive is <a href="https://amzn.to/40z8rHP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Natural Born Charmer</a> by Susan Elizabeth Phillips.</li></ul><br/><h2>Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/44ZkoYK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Georgie All Along</a> by Kate Clayborn</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4o2vtRn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Out with Lanterns</a> by Hillary Bowen</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/45f1LkF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Tropical Rebel Gets the Duke </a>by Adriana Herrera&nbsp;&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4f04FwW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Single Player</a> by Tara Tai</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4mrUcx5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Duke of My Heart</a> by Kelly Bowen</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/44GtfzA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pugs &amp; Kisses</a> by Farrah Rochon</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/44LWsJy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wanted, A Gentleman</a> by KJ Charles</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40uCpwD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cowboy, It’s Cold Outside</a> by Maisey Yates</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4kTphZd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Evernight</a> by Kristen Callihan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/416Ystg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Queen Move</a> by Kennedy Ryan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4kSgqXO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Fixer</a> by Helenkay Dimon</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3TO31F4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">King</a> by SJ Tilly</li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Hillary Bowen</strong>, author of Out With Lanterns<em>, </em>available in print and ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/4kQ4CFm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/out-with-lanterns-hillary-bowen/1147520735?ean=9781069303417" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/out-with-lanterns?sId=bc862e4b-ba98-45df-86aa-2dc9f6bcf9db" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/out-with-lanterns/id6746734609" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, and <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781069303400" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>.</li><li><strong>Wattpad Books</strong>, publisher of Z.W. Taylor's <em>The Pack</em>, available in print, ebook and audio from <a href="https://amzn.to/44VdW4U" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-pack-zw-taylor/1146455296?ean=9781998341115" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-pack-45?sId=82f87cf1-46c0-4b2b-babb-b3ffede682fe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-pack/id6747301394" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, and <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781998341108" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>.</li><li><strong>Lumi Gummies,</strong> THC gummies available nationwide. Go to <a href="https://lumigummies.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lumigummies.com</a> and use code FATEDMATES for 30% off.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/7/22/0744-jobs-careers-and-fixers-in-romance </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/7/22/0744-jobs-careers-and-fixers-in-romance]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">e86d2176-3459-454e-a794-f2fc3720d157</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2025 11:30:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/e86d2176-3459-454e-a794-f2fc3720d157.mp3" length="86686243" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:30:18</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>49</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>49</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-61469618-55b0-47fb-ab29-2025c4c84f14.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>07.43: Trailblazer Pamela Sanderson</title><itunes:title>Trailblazer Pamela Sanderson</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Our Trailblazer series continues with Pamela Sanderson, the first Native American author to write contemporary romance about Native characters in Native community. Pamela joins us to talk about her writing journey, about her decision to write and independently publish romance, about the need for more Native American romance in the world. We so enjoyed this conversation, and we’re grateful to Pamela for joining us to tell her story.</p><p><a href="https://fatedmates.net/trailblazers" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Listen to all the Trailblazer episodes</a>.</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.  </p><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li><a href="https://www.pamelasanderson.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pamela Sanderson</a> is an enrolled citizen of the <a href="https://www.karuk.us/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Karuk Tribe</a>, located in northwest California on the Klamath River. <a href="https://www.pamrentz.com/pampage/bio.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pamela also publishes in other genres as Pamela Rentz</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>People Mentioned this Episode: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louise_Erdrich" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Louise Erdrich</a>, <a href="https://www.arts.gov/honors/medals/n-scott-momaday" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">N. Scott Momaday</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johanna_Lindsey" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Johanna Lindsay</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_E._Woodiwiss" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kathleen E. Woodiwiss</a>, <a href="https://stephenking.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stephen King</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Rice" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Anne Rice</a>, On the Island by Tracey Garvis Graves, <a href="https://www.courtneymilan.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Courntey Milan</a>, <a href="https://sarinabowen.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarina Bowen</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/4lxGBnL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love is a War Song</a> by <a href="https://www.danicanavabooks.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Danica Nava</a>, <a href="https://alihazelwood.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ali Hazelwood</a>, <a href="https://tessadare.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tessa Dare</a>, <a href="https://quicunquevult.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alexis Hall</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/4eM8BkM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Theory of Bastards</a> by Audrey Schulman, the TV show North of North, <a href="https://amzn.to/44Himh3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Only Good Indians</a> by <a href="https://www.demontheory.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stephen Graham Jones</a>, and <a href="https://rebeccaroanhorse.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rebecca Roanhorse</a>.</li><li>Writing Workshops: <a href="https://www.clarionwest.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Clarion West</a> and <a href="https://romancingthecraft.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Romancing the Craft</a></li><li><a href="https://dearauthor.com/book-reviews/overall-a-reviews/a-reviews/review-heartbeat-braves-by-pamela-sanderson/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Dear Author blog</a> was an early, vocal fan of Pamela’s work. If you are interested in KidLit or have children, you should be familiar with Debbie Reese and her blog, <a href="https://americanindiansinchildrensliterature.blogspot.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">American Indians in Children’s Literature</a>. </li></ul><br/><h2>Pamela's Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40WKCJY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heartbeat Braves</a></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/44P1p2M" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lovesick Braves</a></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3UbED02" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sweetheart Braves</a></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4eWD2VM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Crooked Rock Braves</a></li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Blue Box Press</strong>, publishers of Jennifer Probst's <em>The Reluctant Flirt, </em>available in print and ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/3GEqLIO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-reluctant-flirt-jennifer-probst/1146256823?ean=2940186032564" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-reluctant-flirt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-reluctant-flirt/id6670582512" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, and <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9781963135404" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>. </li><li><strong>Kylie Scott</strong>, author of <em>Wildflowers: An End of the World romance</em>, available in print and ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/44KoYty" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/wildflowers-kylie-scott/1147399892?ean=2940184327518" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/wildflowers-39?sId=2fd12717-aa40-419e-b6d0-a08c881b57d1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/wildflowers/id6745645289" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, and <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780648457435" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>.</li><li><strong>World Gone Wrong: A fictional chat show about friendship at the end of the world</strong>, available at <a href="https://Audaciousmachinecreative.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">audaciousmachinecreative.com</a> and wherever you listen to podcasts. </li><li><strong>Renée Ahdieh</strong>, author of <em>Park Avenue</em>, available in print, ebook, and audio at <a href="https://amzn.to/40QxYvZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/park-avenue-renee-ahdieh/1146163854?ean=9781250897954" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/park-avenue-8?sId=82cbe930-c7b9-46e6-87df-6d890d52642c" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/park-avenue/id6711353083" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, and <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9781250897961" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>. </li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/7/15/0743-trailblazer-pamela-sanderson </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our Trailblazer series continues with Pamela Sanderson, the first Native American author to write contemporary romance about Native characters in Native community. Pamela joins us to talk about her writing journey, about her decision to write and independently publish romance, about the need for more Native American romance in the world. We so enjoyed this conversation, and we’re grateful to Pamela for joining us to tell her story.</p><p><a href="https://fatedmates.net/trailblazers" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Listen to all the Trailblazer episodes</a>.</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.  </p><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li><a href="https://www.pamelasanderson.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pamela Sanderson</a> is an enrolled citizen of the <a href="https://www.karuk.us/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Karuk Tribe</a>, located in northwest California on the Klamath River. <a href="https://www.pamrentz.com/pampage/bio.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pamela also publishes in other genres as Pamela Rentz</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>People Mentioned this Episode: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louise_Erdrich" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Louise Erdrich</a>, <a href="https://www.arts.gov/honors/medals/n-scott-momaday" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">N. Scott Momaday</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johanna_Lindsey" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Johanna Lindsay</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_E._Woodiwiss" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kathleen E. Woodiwiss</a>, <a href="https://stephenking.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stephen King</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Rice" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Anne Rice</a>, On the Island by Tracey Garvis Graves, <a href="https://www.courtneymilan.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Courntey Milan</a>, <a href="https://sarinabowen.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarina Bowen</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/4lxGBnL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love is a War Song</a> by <a href="https://www.danicanavabooks.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Danica Nava</a>, <a href="https://alihazelwood.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ali Hazelwood</a>, <a href="https://tessadare.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tessa Dare</a>, <a href="https://quicunquevult.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alexis Hall</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/4eM8BkM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Theory of Bastards</a> by Audrey Schulman, the TV show North of North, <a href="https://amzn.to/44Himh3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Only Good Indians</a> by <a href="https://www.demontheory.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stephen Graham Jones</a>, and <a href="https://rebeccaroanhorse.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rebecca Roanhorse</a>.</li><li>Writing Workshops: <a href="https://www.clarionwest.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Clarion West</a> and <a href="https://romancingthecraft.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Romancing the Craft</a></li><li><a href="https://dearauthor.com/book-reviews/overall-a-reviews/a-reviews/review-heartbeat-braves-by-pamela-sanderson/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Dear Author blog</a> was an early, vocal fan of Pamela’s work. If you are interested in KidLit or have children, you should be familiar with Debbie Reese and her blog, <a href="https://americanindiansinchildrensliterature.blogspot.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">American Indians in Children’s Literature</a>. </li></ul><br/><h2>Pamela's Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40WKCJY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heartbeat Braves</a></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/44P1p2M" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lovesick Braves</a></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3UbED02" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sweetheart Braves</a></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4eWD2VM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Crooked Rock Braves</a></li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Blue Box Press</strong>, publishers of Jennifer Probst's <em>The Reluctant Flirt, </em>available in print and ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/3GEqLIO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-reluctant-flirt-jennifer-probst/1146256823?ean=2940186032564" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-reluctant-flirt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-reluctant-flirt/id6670582512" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, and <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9781963135404" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>. </li><li><strong>Kylie Scott</strong>, author of <em>Wildflowers: An End of the World romance</em>, available in print and ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/44KoYty" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/wildflowers-kylie-scott/1147399892?ean=2940184327518" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/wildflowers-39?sId=2fd12717-aa40-419e-b6d0-a08c881b57d1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/wildflowers/id6745645289" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, and <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780648457435" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>.</li><li><strong>World Gone Wrong: A fictional chat show about friendship at the end of the world</strong>, available at <a href="https://Audaciousmachinecreative.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">audaciousmachinecreative.com</a> and wherever you listen to podcasts. </li><li><strong>Renée Ahdieh</strong>, author of <em>Park Avenue</em>, available in print, ebook, and audio at <a href="https://amzn.to/40QxYvZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/park-avenue-renee-ahdieh/1146163854?ean=9781250897954" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/park-avenue-8?sId=82cbe930-c7b9-46e6-87df-6d890d52642c" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/park-avenue/id6711353083" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, and <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9781250897961" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>. </li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/7/15/0743-trailblazer-pamela-sanderson </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/7/15/0743-trailblazer-pamela-sanderson]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">dc473c7d-9b0f-42fc-9c17-a22f03ebc1a6</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/5a5486eb-3103-459b-a23b-9716377263f3/-lrBHiSvghnhsXGEYEH8Hc7s.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2025 00:30:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/dc473c7d-9b0f-42fc-9c17-a22f03ebc1a6.mp3" length="92864034" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:36:44</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>48</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>48</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-1df3f39b-26b6-4a78-9aaf-c74c0387a10b.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S07.42: Jen &amp; Sarah and These Summer Storms</title><itunes:title>Jen &amp; Sarah and These Summer Storms</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Last night’s Fated Mates Live was <em>so much fun</em>, but now we’re back in your earholes. It’s time again for our annual Sarah MacLean deep dive (with no spoilers!). As per tradition, Jen asks Sarah a bunch of fun questions and forces Sarah to talk about her book. And it all ends with Julia Whalen reading two chapters of These Summer Storms! </p><p>It was a delight to see so many of you in St. Louis yesterday, and to everyone else, we’re just as glad you’re here with us today. </p><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>It’s finally time for <em>These Summer Storms</em>! And it <a href="https://www.sarahmaclean.net/tour" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">might not be too late to see Sarah on book tour!</a> <a href="https://www.instagram.com/marykayandrews/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mary Kay Andrews</a> is very fierce on Instagram, and we love her for it. You can also see her with Renee Adiah, author of the forthcoming <a href="https://amzn.to/3I9nRw9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Park Avenue</a>, which she mentions at the end of the show.</li><li>When the New York Times published their Best Books of the 21st Century so far, <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/books/authors-top-books-21st-century.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah shared her ballot.&nbsp;</a></li><li>Rhode Island has <a href="https://smallstatebighistory.com/rhode-islands-millionaires-in-1892-and-how-they-made-their-money/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a long history of being associated with big money.</a></li><li>On Inside the Actors Studio, the host James Lipton always <a href="https://the-avocado.org/2018/11/13/the-pivot-questionnaire-inside-the-actors-studio-questions/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ended with the same list of questions</a>, known as the Pivot questions after their originator Bernard Pivot. Similarly, the New York Times column By the Book (Jen called it Get Booked, sorry for any confusion!) has a rotating list of questions, but some are very common. If you are interested in reading some of these columns, check out <a href="https://amzn.to/44PXYtW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">By The Book: Writers on Literature and the Literary Life</a>, published in 2015. The books on Sarah’s nightstand were: <a href="https://amzn.to/45XTFxS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Second Coming</a> by Carter Sherman, <a href="https://amzn.to/3Tqb76E" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">It’s a Love Story</a> by Annabel Monaghan, <a href="https://amzn.to/4ko36Ks" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Can’t Get Enough</a> by Kennedy Ryan, and <a href="https://amzn.to/4eLA6Lp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Full Bloom</a> by Francesca Serritella.&nbsp; </li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Kylie Scott</strong>, author of <em>Wildflowers: An End of the World romance</em>, available in print and ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/44KoYty" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/wildflowers-kylie-scott/1147399892?ean=2940184327518" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/wildflowers-39?sId=2fd12717-aa40-419e-b6d0-a08c881b57d1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/wildflowers/id6745645289" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, and <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780648457435" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>.</li><li><strong>1001 Dark Nights</strong>, publisher of <em>Midnight Myths and Magic</em>, available in print and ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/4nB3cky" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>. </li><li><strong>Mina Brower</strong>, author of <em>A God of Moonlight and Stardust</em>, available in print, ebook, and with your monthly subscription to <a href="https://amzn.to/3U3nBRK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kindle Unlimited</a>. </li><li><strong>Avon Books</strong>, publisher of <em>Scotch on the Rocks</em>, available in print, ebook, and audio from <a href="https://amzn.to/44Sqpaz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/scotch-on-the-rocks-elliot-fletcher/1145434997?ean=9780063386778" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/scotch-on-the-rocks-3?sId=ee9b81be-47af-40c5-b1b9-a9dcd20c5eac" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/scotch-on-the-rocks/id6692622473" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, and <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780063386778" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>. </li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last night’s Fated Mates Live was <em>so much fun</em>, but now we’re back in your earholes. It’s time again for our annual Sarah MacLean deep dive (with no spoilers!). As per tradition, Jen asks Sarah a bunch of fun questions and forces Sarah to talk about her book. And it all ends with Julia Whalen reading two chapters of These Summer Storms! </p><p>It was a delight to see so many of you in St. Louis yesterday, and to everyone else, we’re just as glad you’re here with us today. </p><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>It’s finally time for <em>These Summer Storms</em>! And it <a href="https://www.sarahmaclean.net/tour" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">might not be too late to see Sarah on book tour!</a> <a href="https://www.instagram.com/marykayandrews/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mary Kay Andrews</a> is very fierce on Instagram, and we love her for it. You can also see her with Renee Adiah, author of the forthcoming <a href="https://amzn.to/3I9nRw9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Park Avenue</a>, which she mentions at the end of the show.</li><li>When the New York Times published their Best Books of the 21st Century so far, <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/books/authors-top-books-21st-century.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah shared her ballot.&nbsp;</a></li><li>Rhode Island has <a href="https://smallstatebighistory.com/rhode-islands-millionaires-in-1892-and-how-they-made-their-money/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a long history of being associated with big money.</a></li><li>On Inside the Actors Studio, the host James Lipton always <a href="https://the-avocado.org/2018/11/13/the-pivot-questionnaire-inside-the-actors-studio-questions/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ended with the same list of questions</a>, known as the Pivot questions after their originator Bernard Pivot. Similarly, the New York Times column By the Book (Jen called it Get Booked, sorry for any confusion!) has a rotating list of questions, but some are very common. If you are interested in reading some of these columns, check out <a href="https://amzn.to/44PXYtW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">By The Book: Writers on Literature and the Literary Life</a>, published in 2015. The books on Sarah’s nightstand were: <a href="https://amzn.to/45XTFxS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Second Coming</a> by Carter Sherman, <a href="https://amzn.to/3Tqb76E" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">It’s a Love Story</a> by Annabel Monaghan, <a href="https://amzn.to/4ko36Ks" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Can’t Get Enough</a> by Kennedy Ryan, and <a href="https://amzn.to/4eLA6Lp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Full Bloom</a> by Francesca Serritella.&nbsp; </li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Kylie Scott</strong>, author of <em>Wildflowers: An End of the World romance</em>, available in print and ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/44KoYty" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/wildflowers-kylie-scott/1147399892?ean=2940184327518" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/wildflowers-39?sId=2fd12717-aa40-419e-b6d0-a08c881b57d1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/wildflowers/id6745645289" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, and <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780648457435" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>.</li><li><strong>1001 Dark Nights</strong>, publisher of <em>Midnight Myths and Magic</em>, available in print and ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/4nB3cky" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>. </li><li><strong>Mina Brower</strong>, author of <em>A God of Moonlight and Stardust</em>, available in print, ebook, and with your monthly subscription to <a href="https://amzn.to/3U3nBRK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kindle Unlimited</a>. </li><li><strong>Avon Books</strong>, publisher of <em>Scotch on the Rocks</em>, available in print, ebook, and audio from <a href="https://amzn.to/44Sqpaz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/scotch-on-the-rocks-elliot-fletcher/1145434997?ean=9780063386778" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/scotch-on-the-rocks-3?sId=ee9b81be-47af-40c5-b1b9-a9dcd20c5eac" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/scotch-on-the-rocks/id6692622473" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, and <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780063386778" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>. </li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">6d4f7d56-3846-4b14-a984-ce3fd79c09eb</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2025 18:32:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/6d4f7d56-3846-4b14-a984-ce3fd79c09eb.mp3" length="117283882" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>02:01:44</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>47</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>47</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-5ab2d6a1-ccae-4e00-ab3c-e3727eba7753.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S07.41: Audiobooks with Julia Whelan</title><itunes:title>Audiobooks with Julia Whelan</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We're thrilled to have audiobook queen and Voice of the Summer (<a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/books/2025/06/29/julia-whelan-audiobooks-interview/84353674007/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">USA Today</a>), Julia Whelan with us today! Aside from being the voice of Emily Henry, Taylor Jenkins Reid, VE Schwab and Kristen Hannah, she's also an author of her own delicious books and the founder of Audiobrary, an audio book company that pays narrators on a royalty structure. She's here to talk about her journey to writing and to narrating, about the way she thinks about her work, her advocacy, and the world of audiobooks. We are so incredibly thrilled to have her!</p><p>Julia is also the narrator for Sarah's book, These Summer Storms, available next week wherever books are sold. The audiobook is perfection, and you can read it on <a href="https://amzn.to/44zbhxF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Audible</a>, <a href="https://libro.fm/audiobooks/9798217073351-these-summer-storms?srsltid=AfmBOooQ2Hn90l5zS2GghFQqF49P7eBtedjnkyQeARQ6JVM3NrFCvoos" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LibroFM</a> or <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/audiobook/these-summer-storms-a-novel-unabridged/id1779644470" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Music</a>...or wherever you get your audiobooks. </p><p>There are still tickets to see Sarah on tour in <a href="https://stores.barnesandnoble.com/event/9780062184280-0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">NYC</a>, <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/offsite-these-summer-storms-by-sarah-maclean-at-wilson-abbey-tickets-1341003580809?aff=oddtdtcreator" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chicago</a>, <a href="https://bookmarksnc.org/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Winston-Salem, NC</a>, <a href="https://charterbookstore.com/event/2025-07-14/sarah-maclean-these-summer-storms" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Newport, RI</a>, <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/these-summer-storms-release-celebration-with-sarah-maclean-tickets-1330284309179?aff=oddtdtcreator" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cambridge, MA</a>, <a href="https://eagleeyebooks.com/event/2025-07-16/sarah-maclean-mary-kay-andrews-these-summer-storms" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Decatur, GA</a>, or <a href="https://wildgeesebookshop.com/event-tickets/sarah-maclean-at-the-sycamore-at-mallow-run" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Franklin, IN</a>. There are a handful of tickets still available for <a href="https://thenovelneighbor.com/events/2634920250708" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates Live in St. Louis, MO</a> on July 8th! Join us!</p><p>If you can't make the tour, you can <a href="https://www.therippedbodice.com/product/these-summer-storms-sarah-maclean-signed" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">preorder&nbsp;<em>These Summer Storms&nbsp;</em>signed with a special romance dust jacket</a> from The Ripped Bodice. </p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome Julia Whelan, <a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/books/2025/06/29/julia-whelan-audiobooks-interview/84353674007/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">USA Today's voice of the summer</a>, <a href="https://www.audiofilemagazine.com/narrators/julia-whelan/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">audiobook narrator extraordinaire</a> and the founder of <a href="https://audiobrary.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Audiobrary</a>.&nbsp; A Netflix movie of her book <a href="https://youtu.be/EKQPCiUSRAo?si=mBsM3XSmGprJB_lF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">My Oxford Year</a> is coming soon.</li><li>Sarah wants you to know that she realized later that she was remembering the plot of <a href="https://amzn.to/44uq7Wg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Girl on the Train</em></a> when she was talking about the audiobook <a href="https://amzn.to/44zaZa3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Gone Girl</em></a>, but that they're both bangers. </li><li>Like everything, <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/books/2025/may/13/audible-unveils-plans-to-use-ai-voices-to-narrate-audiobooks" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AI is creeping into the audiobook world</a>.</li><li>An audiobook Julia recommends is <a href="https://amzn.to/46pla3j" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jess Walters’s Beautiful Ruins, narrated by Edoardo Ballerini.</a> </li></ul><br/><h2>Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4nz5KQo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">These Summer Storms</a> by Sarah MacLean</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/44bQHV9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Thank You for Listening</a> by Julia Whelan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4lDWkBn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">My Oxford Year</a> by Julia Whelan</li><li><a href="https://audiobrary.com/products/casanova-llc-2-0?variant=47343186575638" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Casanova LLC</a> by Julia Whelan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46pmfIp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gone Girl</a> by Gillian Flynn</li><li><a href="https://audiobrary.com/products/animal-bodies-on-death-desire-and-other-difficulties?variant=49854733484310" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Animal Bodies</a> by Suzanne Roberts</li><li><a href="https://audiobrary.com/products/heroine?variant=50053994316054" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heroine</a> by Mary Jane Wells</li><li><a href="https://audiobrary.com/collections/fiction/products/american-queen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">American Queen</a> by Sierra Simone</li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Avon Books</strong>, publishers of Alexandra Paige's <em>An Irish Summer</em>, available in print, ebook or audio from <a href="https://amzn.to/4kkXQXZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/an-irish-summer-alexandra-paige/1146358361?ean=9780063316577" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/an-irish-summer?sId=80d5b06f-4a68-4643-ac31-609a4b551226" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/gr/book/an-irish-summer/id6736360832" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063316560" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Chelsea Fagan</strong>, author of <em>The High Dive</em>, available in print, ebook or audio from <a href="https://amzn.to/40rsdVu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-high-dive-chelsea-fagan/1147081241?ean=2940184364025" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-high-dive/id6743088073" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-high-dive-1?sId=d97b0808-7c68-4a26-815e-f3936e786f8c" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781662961182" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Alyxandra Harvey</strong>, author of <em>A Deal with the Devil</em>, available in print, ebook or <a href="https://amzn.to/4eypS11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>MA Wardell</strong>, author of <em>Stirring Spurs</em>, available in print, ebook or <a href="https://amzn.to/45LgTqN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/7/1/0741-a-conversation-with-audiobook-narrator-julia-whelan </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We're thrilled to have audiobook queen and Voice of the Summer (<a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/books/2025/06/29/julia-whelan-audiobooks-interview/84353674007/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">USA Today</a>), Julia Whelan with us today! Aside from being the voice of Emily Henry, Taylor Jenkins Reid, VE Schwab and Kristen Hannah, she's also an author of her own delicious books and the founder of Audiobrary, an audio book company that pays narrators on a royalty structure. She's here to talk about her journey to writing and to narrating, about the way she thinks about her work, her advocacy, and the world of audiobooks. We are so incredibly thrilled to have her!</p><p>Julia is also the narrator for Sarah's book, These Summer Storms, available next week wherever books are sold. The audiobook is perfection, and you can read it on <a href="https://amzn.to/44zbhxF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Audible</a>, <a href="https://libro.fm/audiobooks/9798217073351-these-summer-storms?srsltid=AfmBOooQ2Hn90l5zS2GghFQqF49P7eBtedjnkyQeARQ6JVM3NrFCvoos" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LibroFM</a> or <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/audiobook/these-summer-storms-a-novel-unabridged/id1779644470" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Music</a>...or wherever you get your audiobooks. </p><p>There are still tickets to see Sarah on tour in <a href="https://stores.barnesandnoble.com/event/9780062184280-0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">NYC</a>, <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/offsite-these-summer-storms-by-sarah-maclean-at-wilson-abbey-tickets-1341003580809?aff=oddtdtcreator" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chicago</a>, <a href="https://bookmarksnc.org/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Winston-Salem, NC</a>, <a href="https://charterbookstore.com/event/2025-07-14/sarah-maclean-these-summer-storms" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Newport, RI</a>, <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/these-summer-storms-release-celebration-with-sarah-maclean-tickets-1330284309179?aff=oddtdtcreator" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cambridge, MA</a>, <a href="https://eagleeyebooks.com/event/2025-07-16/sarah-maclean-mary-kay-andrews-these-summer-storms" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Decatur, GA</a>, or <a href="https://wildgeesebookshop.com/event-tickets/sarah-maclean-at-the-sycamore-at-mallow-run" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Franklin, IN</a>. There are a handful of tickets still available for <a href="https://thenovelneighbor.com/events/2634920250708" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates Live in St. Louis, MO</a> on July 8th! Join us!</p><p>If you can't make the tour, you can <a href="https://www.therippedbodice.com/product/these-summer-storms-sarah-maclean-signed" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">preorder&nbsp;<em>These Summer Storms&nbsp;</em>signed with a special romance dust jacket</a> from The Ripped Bodice. </p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome Julia Whelan, <a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/books/2025/06/29/julia-whelan-audiobooks-interview/84353674007/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">USA Today's voice of the summer</a>, <a href="https://www.audiofilemagazine.com/narrators/julia-whelan/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">audiobook narrator extraordinaire</a> and the founder of <a href="https://audiobrary.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Audiobrary</a>.&nbsp; A Netflix movie of her book <a href="https://youtu.be/EKQPCiUSRAo?si=mBsM3XSmGprJB_lF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">My Oxford Year</a> is coming soon.</li><li>Sarah wants you to know that she realized later that she was remembering the plot of <a href="https://amzn.to/44uq7Wg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Girl on the Train</em></a> when she was talking about the audiobook <a href="https://amzn.to/44zaZa3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Gone Girl</em></a>, but that they're both bangers. </li><li>Like everything, <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/books/2025/may/13/audible-unveils-plans-to-use-ai-voices-to-narrate-audiobooks" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AI is creeping into the audiobook world</a>.</li><li>An audiobook Julia recommends is <a href="https://amzn.to/46pla3j" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jess Walters’s Beautiful Ruins, narrated by Edoardo Ballerini.</a> </li></ul><br/><h2>Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4nz5KQo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">These Summer Storms</a> by Sarah MacLean</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/44bQHV9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Thank You for Listening</a> by Julia Whelan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4lDWkBn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">My Oxford Year</a> by Julia Whelan</li><li><a href="https://audiobrary.com/products/casanova-llc-2-0?variant=47343186575638" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Casanova LLC</a> by Julia Whelan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46pmfIp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gone Girl</a> by Gillian Flynn</li><li><a href="https://audiobrary.com/products/animal-bodies-on-death-desire-and-other-difficulties?variant=49854733484310" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Animal Bodies</a> by Suzanne Roberts</li><li><a href="https://audiobrary.com/products/heroine?variant=50053994316054" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heroine</a> by Mary Jane Wells</li><li><a href="https://audiobrary.com/collections/fiction/products/american-queen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">American Queen</a> by Sierra Simone</li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Avon Books</strong>, publishers of Alexandra Paige's <em>An Irish Summer</em>, available in print, ebook or audio from <a href="https://amzn.to/4kkXQXZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/an-irish-summer-alexandra-paige/1146358361?ean=9780063316577" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/an-irish-summer?sId=80d5b06f-4a68-4643-ac31-609a4b551226" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/gr/book/an-irish-summer/id6736360832" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063316560" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Chelsea Fagan</strong>, author of <em>The High Dive</em>, available in print, ebook or audio from <a href="https://amzn.to/40rsdVu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-high-dive-chelsea-fagan/1147081241?ean=2940184364025" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-high-dive/id6743088073" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-high-dive-1?sId=d97b0808-7c68-4a26-815e-f3936e786f8c" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781662961182" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Alyxandra Harvey</strong>, author of <em>A Deal with the Devil</em>, available in print, ebook or <a href="https://amzn.to/4eypS11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>MA Wardell</strong>, author of <em>Stirring Spurs</em>, available in print, ebook or <a href="https://amzn.to/45LgTqN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/7/1/0741-a-conversation-with-audiobook-narrator-julia-whelan </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/7/1/0741-a-conversation-with-audiobook-narrator-julia-whelan]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">ef1e8023-c84d-4b25-b1cd-7487381b55d6</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2025 15:33:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/ef1e8023-c84d-4b25-b1cd-7487381b55d6.mp3" length="133053724" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>02:18:10</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>46</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>46</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-318a0184-6873-422c-9cb8-0424c5a2808f.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S07.40: Hot 2025 Summer Reads</title><itunes:title>Hot 2025 Summer Reads</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We're both staying very still in front of air conditioners this week, so that means we're very very happy to have a pile of summer reads at the ready! We're teeing up your piles of summer reads this week with our quarterly romance roundup! As a reminder, we haven't read most of these books -- but they're the ones toppling our TBR! As a reminder, preorders mean a lot more than they should these days, so if there's anything on this list that makes you go "oh, yes. that's for me," and you're able to preorder from your local bookstore (or from <a href="https://pocketbooksshop.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pocket Books Bookshop</a> with the code PREORDER) or reserve at your local library. The authors on this list thank you.</p><p>As a reminder, Sarah has a new book out on July 8th -- go see her on tour in <a href="https://stores.barnesandnoble.com/event/9780062184280-0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">NYC</a>, <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/offsite-these-summer-storms-by-sarah-maclean-at-wilson-abbey-tickets-1341003580809?aff=oddtdtcreator" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chicago</a>, <a href="https://bookmarksnc.org/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Winston-Salem, NC</a>, <a href="https://charterbookstore.com/event/2025-07-14/sarah-maclean-these-summer-storms" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Newport, RI</a>, <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/these-summer-storms-release-celebration-with-sarah-maclean-tickets-1330284309179?aff=oddtdtcreator" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cambridge, MA</a>, <a href="https://eagleeyebooks.com/event/2025-07-16/sarah-maclean-mary-kay-andrews-these-summer-storms" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Decatur, GA</a>, or <a href="https://wildgeesebookshop.com/event-tickets/sarah-maclean-at-the-sycamore-at-mallow-run" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Franklin, IN</a>. There are a handful of tickets still available for <a href="https://thenovelneighbor.com/events/2634920250708" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates Live in St. Louis, MO</a> on July 8th! Join us!</p><p>If you can't make the tour, you can <a href="https://www.therippedbodice.com/product/these-summer-storms-sarah-maclean-signed" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">preorder&nbsp;<em>These Summer Storms&nbsp;</em>signed with a special romance dust jacket</a> from The Ripped Bodice. </p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><h2>The Books</h2><p><strong>June</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/44dd3nV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">When Javi Dumped Mari</a> by Mia Sosa</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3FOUgY5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Best Summer Ever</a> by Jessica Cunsolo</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4lgHws7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Keeping the Countess</a> by Lille Moore</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/45yICLl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">An Ancient Witch’s Guide to Modern Dating</a> by Ceclia Edwards</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4kRZnpr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sunny Side Up</a> by Katie Sturino</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/45yIDin" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Party of Three</a> by C. Travis Rice</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ldatVH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Eliza and the Duke</a> by Harper St. George</li><li><a href="https://cherterais.com/steel-horses-leather-roads" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Steel Horses &amp; Leather Roads</a> by Cher Terais</li></ul><br/><p><strong>July&nbsp;</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4lbuhJa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">These Summer Storms</a> by Sarah MacLean</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4naevjs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Enemies with an Earl</a> by Lizzie C. Koz</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ned4jY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Summer You Were Mine</a> by Jill Francis</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/464ZwBg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Give Me a Reason</a> by Jayci Lee</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3ZFTWS1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Behind Frenemy Lines</a> by Zen Cho</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3T5zNB8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">How Freaking Romantic</a> by Emily Harding</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ek41KC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">One More Time</a> by Emily S. Morris</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43UYQNF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Totally and Completely Fine</a> by Elissa Sussman</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43WOtsF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love is a War Song</a> by Danica Nava</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4eiRBm6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">August Lane</a> by Regina Black</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3ZJODRD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Only Lovers in the Building</a> by Nadine Gonzalez</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3I6ykbm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sweet Thing</a> by Kate Meader</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4lo30U9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bad Luck Bride</a> by Laura Lee Guhrke</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40hRC3L" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scotch on the Rocks</a> by Elliot Fletcher</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ecJW8Z" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Roll for Romance</a> by Lenora Woods</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3G6yQFM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Not Part of the Plan</a> by Lucy Score</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40jqYrh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Soulgazer</a> by Maggie Rapier</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/45AzsOu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Great Misfortune of Stella Sedgwick</a> by S. Isabelle</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3HTzuXK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coffeeshop in an Alternate Universe</a> by CB Lee</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/44iaZer" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Forbidden Alchemy</a> by Stacey McEwan&nbsp;</li></ul><br/><p><strong>August</strong>&nbsp;</p><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3I6JBbD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heart Strings</a> by Ivy Fairbanks</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3TBpVzc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Promise of Forever </a>by Sheryl Lister</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3T4LbgD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Sea Witch</a> by Eva Leigh</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4k7IwOh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">His Forgotten Wife</a> by Tara Pammi</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3G8fqQU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">You’ve Got a Place Here, Too: An Anthology of Black Love Stories Set at HBCUs</a></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4lfE3tN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Fortune Hunter’s Guide to Love</a> by Emma-Claire Sunday</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4nbjMHt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">My Big Fat Vampire Wedding</a>&nbsp; by Jessica Gadziala</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/44rvoif" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Zom Romcom</a> by Olivia Dade</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3T5zqGN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kiss &amp; Collide</a> by Amanda Weaver</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3HPUYF3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Gilded Heiress</a> by Joanna Shupe</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/466Bgid" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Here For a Good Time</a> by Pyae Moe Thet War</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4kRfGmj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Entanglement of Rival Wizards</a> by Sara Raasch</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40hVT7p" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love is an Open Book</a> by Chandra Blumberg</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4kRraGu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gabriela and His Grace</a> by Liana De La Rosa</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/465LgIw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Once Upon a Time in Dollywood</a> by Ashley Jordan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/45A8JkX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Waltz on the Wide Side</a> by Erica Ridley</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3FOKCEP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">My Best Friend’s Earl</a> by Bethany Bennett</li></ul><br/><p><strong>September</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3HUR51r" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Time for You</a> by Elizabeth Davis</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/446s2A0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">By the Horns</a> by Ruby Dixon</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3HQaUXG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">It Had to be Him</a> by Adib Khorram</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4llf0pf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dead Poet Sorority</a> by Sofia Shelley</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3G6KgJI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Haunting of William Thorn</a> by Ben Alderson&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4lgIcxF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Princess and the P.I.</a> by Nikki Payne&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3G8mU6n" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tracing Her Stolen Identity</a> by Katie Mettner</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4lbbDBP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">To Heist and to Hold</a> by Christina Britton</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3TENMhm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Honey and Heat</a> by Aurora Palit</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4n7XLJH" rel="noopener noreferrer"...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We're both staying very still in front of air conditioners this week, so that means we're very very happy to have a pile of summer reads at the ready! We're teeing up your piles of summer reads this week with our quarterly romance roundup! As a reminder, we haven't read most of these books -- but they're the ones toppling our TBR! As a reminder, preorders mean a lot more than they should these days, so if there's anything on this list that makes you go "oh, yes. that's for me," and you're able to preorder from your local bookstore (or from <a href="https://pocketbooksshop.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pocket Books Bookshop</a> with the code PREORDER) or reserve at your local library. The authors on this list thank you.</p><p>As a reminder, Sarah has a new book out on July 8th -- go see her on tour in <a href="https://stores.barnesandnoble.com/event/9780062184280-0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">NYC</a>, <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/offsite-these-summer-storms-by-sarah-maclean-at-wilson-abbey-tickets-1341003580809?aff=oddtdtcreator" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chicago</a>, <a href="https://bookmarksnc.org/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Winston-Salem, NC</a>, <a href="https://charterbookstore.com/event/2025-07-14/sarah-maclean-these-summer-storms" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Newport, RI</a>, <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/these-summer-storms-release-celebration-with-sarah-maclean-tickets-1330284309179?aff=oddtdtcreator" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cambridge, MA</a>, <a href="https://eagleeyebooks.com/event/2025-07-16/sarah-maclean-mary-kay-andrews-these-summer-storms" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Decatur, GA</a>, or <a href="https://wildgeesebookshop.com/event-tickets/sarah-maclean-at-the-sycamore-at-mallow-run" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Franklin, IN</a>. There are a handful of tickets still available for <a href="https://thenovelneighbor.com/events/2634920250708" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates Live in St. Louis, MO</a> on July 8th! Join us!</p><p>If you can't make the tour, you can <a href="https://www.therippedbodice.com/product/these-summer-storms-sarah-maclean-signed" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">preorder&nbsp;<em>These Summer Storms&nbsp;</em>signed with a special romance dust jacket</a> from The Ripped Bodice. </p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><h2>The Books</h2><p><strong>June</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/44dd3nV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">When Javi Dumped Mari</a> by Mia Sosa</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3FOUgY5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Best Summer Ever</a> by Jessica Cunsolo</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4lgHws7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Keeping the Countess</a> by Lille Moore</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/45yICLl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">An Ancient Witch’s Guide to Modern Dating</a> by Ceclia Edwards</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4kRZnpr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sunny Side Up</a> by Katie Sturino</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/45yIDin" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Party of Three</a> by C. Travis Rice</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ldatVH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Eliza and the Duke</a> by Harper St. George</li><li><a href="https://cherterais.com/steel-horses-leather-roads" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Steel Horses &amp; Leather Roads</a> by Cher Terais</li></ul><br/><p><strong>July&nbsp;</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4lbuhJa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">These Summer Storms</a> by Sarah MacLean</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4naevjs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Enemies with an Earl</a> by Lizzie C. Koz</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ned4jY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Summer You Were Mine</a> by Jill Francis</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/464ZwBg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Give Me a Reason</a> by Jayci Lee</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3ZFTWS1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Behind Frenemy Lines</a> by Zen Cho</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3T5zNB8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">How Freaking Romantic</a> by Emily Harding</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ek41KC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">One More Time</a> by Emily S. Morris</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43UYQNF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Totally and Completely Fine</a> by Elissa Sussman</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43WOtsF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love is a War Song</a> by Danica Nava</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4eiRBm6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">August Lane</a> by Regina Black</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3ZJODRD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Only Lovers in the Building</a> by Nadine Gonzalez</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3I6ykbm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sweet Thing</a> by Kate Meader</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4lo30U9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bad Luck Bride</a> by Laura Lee Guhrke</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40hRC3L" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scotch on the Rocks</a> by Elliot Fletcher</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ecJW8Z" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Roll for Romance</a> by Lenora Woods</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3G6yQFM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Not Part of the Plan</a> by Lucy Score</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40jqYrh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Soulgazer</a> by Maggie Rapier</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/45AzsOu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Great Misfortune of Stella Sedgwick</a> by S. Isabelle</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3HTzuXK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coffeeshop in an Alternate Universe</a> by CB Lee</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/44iaZer" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Forbidden Alchemy</a> by Stacey McEwan&nbsp;</li></ul><br/><p><strong>August</strong>&nbsp;</p><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3I6JBbD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heart Strings</a> by Ivy Fairbanks</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3TBpVzc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Promise of Forever </a>by Sheryl Lister</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3T4LbgD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Sea Witch</a> by Eva Leigh</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4k7IwOh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">His Forgotten Wife</a> by Tara Pammi</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3G8fqQU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">You’ve Got a Place Here, Too: An Anthology of Black Love Stories Set at HBCUs</a></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4lfE3tN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Fortune Hunter’s Guide to Love</a> by Emma-Claire Sunday</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4nbjMHt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">My Big Fat Vampire Wedding</a>&nbsp; by Jessica Gadziala</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/44rvoif" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Zom Romcom</a> by Olivia Dade</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3T5zqGN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kiss &amp; Collide</a> by Amanda Weaver</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3HPUYF3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Gilded Heiress</a> by Joanna Shupe</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/466Bgid" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Here For a Good Time</a> by Pyae Moe Thet War</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4kRfGmj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Entanglement of Rival Wizards</a> by Sara Raasch</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40hVT7p" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love is an Open Book</a> by Chandra Blumberg</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4kRraGu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gabriela and His Grace</a> by Liana De La Rosa</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/465LgIw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Once Upon a Time in Dollywood</a> by Ashley Jordan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/45A8JkX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Waltz on the Wide Side</a> by Erica Ridley</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3FOKCEP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">My Best Friend’s Earl</a> by Bethany Bennett</li></ul><br/><p><strong>September</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3HUR51r" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Time for You</a> by Elizabeth Davis</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/446s2A0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">By the Horns</a> by Ruby Dixon</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3HQaUXG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">It Had to be Him</a> by Adib Khorram</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4llf0pf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dead Poet Sorority</a> by Sofia Shelley</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3G6KgJI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Haunting of William Thorn</a> by Ben Alderson&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4lgIcxF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Princess and the P.I.</a> by Nikki Payne&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3G8mU6n" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tracing Her Stolen Identity</a> by Katie Mettner</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4lbbDBP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">To Heist and to Hold</a> by Christina Britton</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3TENMhm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Honey and Heat</a> by Aurora Palit</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4n7XLJH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">We Met Like This</a> by Kasie West</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3HSCR14" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scoundrel, Take Me Away</a> by Louisa Darling</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Ty5y5U" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Charlie Quinn Lets Go</a> by Jamie Varon</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4n8YE4V" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mourner for Hire</a> by Caitlin Moss</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3I8jUYf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sweet Heat </a>by Bolu Babalola</li></ul><br/><h2><strong>Sponsors</strong></h2><ul><li><strong>Pocket Books Bookshop</strong>, a feminist, antiracist, queer owned bookshop in Lancaster, PA. <a href="https://pocketbooksshop.com/current-preorder-campaigns" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Preorder any upcoming book from their website and use the code PREORDER for 15% off!</a> <a href="https://pocketbooksshop.com/item/BQmk5nUNoKH847fEkHi55g" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Get <em>These Summer Storms</em> signed by Sarah from them</a>.</li><li><strong>Kay K. Denner</strong>, author of <em>Again, Scoundrel</em>, available in ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/45Dze9h" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.</li><li><strong>Kara Kentley</strong>, author of <em>Another Summer</em>, available in print or ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/4lnqZ5N" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/another-summer-kara-kentley/1147326726?ean=9798992805413" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/another-summer-6?sId=de95565f-ca16-442a-ae60-79f5e82ee272" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/another-summer/id6744948260" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9798992805406" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Lumi Gummies</strong>, THC gummies available nationwide. Go to <a href="https://Lumigummies.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lumigummies.com</a> and use code FATEDMATES for 30% off your order.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/6/21/0740-hot-summer-reads </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p><p>00:00 Opening the Book Hydrant</p><p>11:33 June</p><p>21:24 AD: ANOTHER SUMMER</p><p>23:38 July</p><p>42:34 AD: POCKET BOOKS</p><p>44:41 More July! </p><p>55:31 AD: AGAIN SCOUNDREL</p><p>57:36 August</p><p>1:20:03 AD: LUMI GUMMIES</p><p>1:22:08 More August! </p><p>1:32:07 September</p><p>1:58:16 undefined</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/6/21/0740-hot-summer-reads]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">6e91ff55-d878-4be9-817c-c347f6d6922f</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2025 14:14:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/6e91ff55-d878-4be9-817c-c347f6d6922f.mp3" length="115226890" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:59:36</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>45</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>45</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-d7907fe8-38d9-4cda-bf4a-7fcf39b7aea2.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S07.39: Dysfunctional Families (The Fun Kind)</title><itunes:title>Romance&apos;s Dysfunctional Families (The Fun Kind)</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This week, we're talking about romance's most common family: the dysfunctional one! Sarah wrote a book about one, so we're thinking about what makes them special to romance, and what sets the romantic dysfunctional family apart from the ones that live outside of the genre. Jen has five categories. There's a game involved. You can play along at home! </p><p>If you love this one, you can listen to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/8/20/s0650-daddy-issues-with-chris-rice" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Daddy Issues (not the fun kind) episode</a> with C. Travis Rice. And if you just want to listen to an episode about Daddies (the fun kind), <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/7/13/s0444-daddy-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">we've got you</a>. </p><p>Sarah's book, <em>These Summer Storms </em>is out in three weeks and she is going on tour! What's more, there is a real deal Fated Mates LIVE planned for July 8th in St. Louis, MO! Get tickets to any of these events (Jen will be at a bunch of them, and other pod friends will be popping up along the way) at <a href="https://sarahmaclean.net/tour" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sarahmaclean.net/tour</a>! If you can't make the tour, you can <a href="https://www.therippedbodice.com/product/these-summer-storms-sarah-maclean-signed" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">preorder&nbsp;<em>These Summer Storms&nbsp;</em>signed with a special romance dust jacket</a> from The Ripped Bodice. </p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><h2>The Books </h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4kKL2v1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Filthy Rich Americans</a> series by Nikki Sloan&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4kKqJxH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Uptown Girls Series</a> by Joanna Shupe</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3HLc1Ia" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Dukes in Disguise Series</a> by Louisa Darling</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/45XyprM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">American Royalty</a> by Tracey Livesay</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4e67vQF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Along Came Amor</a> by Alexis Daria&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/402IgsE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">One and Only</a> by Jenny Holiday</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/45tf8yu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Billionaire’s Bargain</a> by Naima Simone</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/44k3qVB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lead</a> by Kylie Scott</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/45sSoOX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">After Hours on Milagro Street</a> by Angelina M. Lopez</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4446nIJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dark Needs at Night’s Edge</a> by Kresley Cole</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3TqFZUj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Player</a> by Kresley Cole</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3ZvXrdO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Preferential Treatment</a> by Heather Guerre</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43MBjhL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Darkest Sins</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/43KN8oG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sweet Prison</a> by Neva Altaj</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43XI0Od" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Dangerous Royals Series</a> by Annika Martin</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4l9IRAL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Natural Born Charmer</a> by Susan Elizabeth Phillips</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/445yEOY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dream a Dream</a> by Susan Elizabeth Phillips</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4l7zzFo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Kingdom of Dreams</a> by Judith McNaught</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43NJv1l" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Beautiful Beast</a> by Neva Altaj</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3ZCQB6i" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Welcome to Temptation</a> by Jennifer Crusie</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4kIQRca" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Scandal and Scoundrel Series</a> by Sarah MacLean</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/44lIwpa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Proposition</a> by Judith Ivory</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3G33wrr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Blue Cedar Falls Series</a> by Jeanne Chin</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/44k4HvR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Just for the Summer</a> by Abby Jimenez</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40bZ2FJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Takeover Effect</a> by Nisha Sharma</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43UM4x6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Vega Family Love Stories Series</a> by Natalie Cana</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jRF1va" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mistakes Were Made</a> by Meryl Wilsner</li></ul><br/><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>If you love Derek Craven, check out&nbsp; the newest entry at the Fated Mates Collections Department, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/spectacular-spectacles" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spectacular Spectacles</a> courtesy of <a href="https://www.threads.com/@baskinsuns" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sanj</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>You can listen to <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/7/6/s0346-susan-elizabeth-phillips" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">our Susan Elizabeth Phillips episode</a> as you do your “one a days.” (When we recorded all the eBooks were on sale, but they aren’t anymore. SORRY.)</li><li>According to Psychology Today, there are <a href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/invisible-bruises/202304/5-types-of-dysfunctional-families" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">5 specific types of dysfunctional families.</a></li><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/5/5/s0235-freewheeling-with-sophie-jordan-a-taking-the-finger-explainer-episode-W1FeR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Taking the Finger, explained&nbsp;</a></li><li>Jen called it a Drive-Thru in Dream a Little Dream, but she meant <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/22/travel/drive-in-theaters-america.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a DRIVE-IN</a>. Maybe <a href="https://daily.jstor.org/the-enduring-drive-in-theater/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">go to one</a> if you want and report back, idk! Or the new version is <a href="https://rooftopcinemaclub.com/chicago/venue/fulton-market/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this Rooftop Cinema Club</a>, where you sit together with bluetooth headphones.</li><li>A great discussion of why it’s problematic or damaging to always redeem the family, <a href="https://apostrophen.wordpress.com/2017/01/30/blood-and-water/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">read this powerful essay about why queer people have the right to leave their harmful family members behind by Nathan Burgoine.&nbsp;</a></li></ul><br/><p>Sponsors</p><ul><li><strong>Kristen Jennings</strong>, author of <em>Lessons From a Tour Guide</em>, available in print, ebook, audiobook or <a href="https://amzn.to/4n6fW2z" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Amy James</strong>, author of <em>Crash Test</em>, available in print, ebook, or audio from <a href="https://amzn.to/4n5ecX5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/crash-test-amy-james/1146358365" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/crash-test-6?sId=7332a115-b243-4622-92d4-8a6e99ced6cc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/ro/book/crash-test/id6736360716" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063399051" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>JL Birchwood</strong>, author of <em>Power Ballad</em>, available in print, ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/445pulH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/6/17/0739-romances-dysfunctional-families </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, we're talking about romance's most common family: the dysfunctional one! Sarah wrote a book about one, so we're thinking about what makes them special to romance, and what sets the romantic dysfunctional family apart from the ones that live outside of the genre. Jen has five categories. There's a game involved. You can play along at home! </p><p>If you love this one, you can listen to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/8/20/s0650-daddy-issues-with-chris-rice" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Daddy Issues (not the fun kind) episode</a> with C. Travis Rice. And if you just want to listen to an episode about Daddies (the fun kind), <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/7/13/s0444-daddy-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">we've got you</a>. </p><p>Sarah's book, <em>These Summer Storms </em>is out in three weeks and she is going on tour! What's more, there is a real deal Fated Mates LIVE planned for July 8th in St. Louis, MO! Get tickets to any of these events (Jen will be at a bunch of them, and other pod friends will be popping up along the way) at <a href="https://sarahmaclean.net/tour" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sarahmaclean.net/tour</a>! If you can't make the tour, you can <a href="https://www.therippedbodice.com/product/these-summer-storms-sarah-maclean-signed" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">preorder&nbsp;<em>These Summer Storms&nbsp;</em>signed with a special romance dust jacket</a> from The Ripped Bodice. </p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><h2>The Books </h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4kKL2v1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Filthy Rich Americans</a> series by Nikki Sloan&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4kKqJxH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Uptown Girls Series</a> by Joanna Shupe</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3HLc1Ia" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Dukes in Disguise Series</a> by Louisa Darling</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/45XyprM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">American Royalty</a> by Tracey Livesay</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4e67vQF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Along Came Amor</a> by Alexis Daria&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/402IgsE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">One and Only</a> by Jenny Holiday</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/45tf8yu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Billionaire’s Bargain</a> by Naima Simone</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/44k3qVB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lead</a> by Kylie Scott</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/45sSoOX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">After Hours on Milagro Street</a> by Angelina M. Lopez</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4446nIJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dark Needs at Night’s Edge</a> by Kresley Cole</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3TqFZUj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Player</a> by Kresley Cole</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3ZvXrdO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Preferential Treatment</a> by Heather Guerre</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43MBjhL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Darkest Sins</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/43KN8oG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sweet Prison</a> by Neva Altaj</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43XI0Od" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Dangerous Royals Series</a> by Annika Martin</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4l9IRAL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Natural Born Charmer</a> by Susan Elizabeth Phillips</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/445yEOY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dream a Dream</a> by Susan Elizabeth Phillips</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4l7zzFo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Kingdom of Dreams</a> by Judith McNaught</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43NJv1l" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Beautiful Beast</a> by Neva Altaj</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3ZCQB6i" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Welcome to Temptation</a> by Jennifer Crusie</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4kIQRca" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Scandal and Scoundrel Series</a> by Sarah MacLean</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/44lIwpa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Proposition</a> by Judith Ivory</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3G33wrr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Blue Cedar Falls Series</a> by Jeanne Chin</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/44k4HvR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Just for the Summer</a> by Abby Jimenez</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40bZ2FJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Takeover Effect</a> by Nisha Sharma</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43UM4x6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Vega Family Love Stories Series</a> by Natalie Cana</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jRF1va" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mistakes Were Made</a> by Meryl Wilsner</li></ul><br/><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>If you love Derek Craven, check out&nbsp; the newest entry at the Fated Mates Collections Department, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/spectacular-spectacles" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spectacular Spectacles</a> courtesy of <a href="https://www.threads.com/@baskinsuns" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sanj</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>You can listen to <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/7/6/s0346-susan-elizabeth-phillips" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">our Susan Elizabeth Phillips episode</a> as you do your “one a days.” (When we recorded all the eBooks were on sale, but they aren’t anymore. SORRY.)</li><li>According to Psychology Today, there are <a href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/invisible-bruises/202304/5-types-of-dysfunctional-families" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">5 specific types of dysfunctional families.</a></li><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/5/5/s0235-freewheeling-with-sophie-jordan-a-taking-the-finger-explainer-episode-W1FeR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Taking the Finger, explained&nbsp;</a></li><li>Jen called it a Drive-Thru in Dream a Little Dream, but she meant <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/22/travel/drive-in-theaters-america.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a DRIVE-IN</a>. Maybe <a href="https://daily.jstor.org/the-enduring-drive-in-theater/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">go to one</a> if you want and report back, idk! Or the new version is <a href="https://rooftopcinemaclub.com/chicago/venue/fulton-market/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this Rooftop Cinema Club</a>, where you sit together with bluetooth headphones.</li><li>A great discussion of why it’s problematic or damaging to always redeem the family, <a href="https://apostrophen.wordpress.com/2017/01/30/blood-and-water/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">read this powerful essay about why queer people have the right to leave their harmful family members behind by Nathan Burgoine.&nbsp;</a></li></ul><br/><p>Sponsors</p><ul><li><strong>Kristen Jennings</strong>, author of <em>Lessons From a Tour Guide</em>, available in print, ebook, audiobook or <a href="https://amzn.to/4n6fW2z" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Amy James</strong>, author of <em>Crash Test</em>, available in print, ebook, or audio from <a href="https://amzn.to/4n5ecX5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/crash-test-amy-james/1146358365" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/crash-test-6?sId=7332a115-b243-4622-92d4-8a6e99ced6cc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/ro/book/crash-test/id6736360716" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063399051" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>JL Birchwood</strong>, author of <em>Power Ballad</em>, available in print, ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/445pulH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/6/17/0739-romances-dysfunctional-families </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/6/17/0739-romances-dysfunctional-families]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">d1b15e9e-e5a4-4478-9bf7-8d54c8827fe2</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2025 11:57:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/d1b15e9e-e5a4-4478-9bf7-8d54c8827fe2.mp3" length="82443505" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:25:27</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>44</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>44</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-b2da603b-7162-4a22-8855-8393a13ce24c.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S07.38: Second Chance Romance Redux</title><itunes:title>Second Chance Romance Redux</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																									We're taking a second run at second chance romance this week, and while we intended to recommend a million books, we ended up talking about all the ways this trope really works and really doesn't work for us! We're talking about rekindling love, unrequited love, resurrecting old wounds, the unforgivable stuff and of course, <em>pining. </em>It's a long one, and yes, Jen is talking about present tense. </p><p>If you love this one, you can listen to our first <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/4/19/s0335-second-chance-romance-interstitial-with-priscilla-oliveras" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Second Chance Romance episode</a> with Priscilla Oliveras here. </p><p>It's that time of year again--Sarah's next book, <em>These Summer Storms </em>is out in July and she is going on tour! What's more, there is a real deal Fated Mates LIVE planned for July 8th in St. Louis, MO! Get tickets to any of these events (Jen will be at a bunch of them, and other pod friends will be popping up along the way) at <a href="https://sarahmaclean.net/tour" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sarahmaclean.net/tour</a>! If you can't make the tour, you can <a href="https://www.therippedbodice.com/product/these-summer-storms-sarah-maclean-signed" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">preorder&nbsp;<em>These Summer Storms&nbsp;</em>signed with a special romance dust jacket</a> from The Ripped Bodice. </p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><h2>The Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43Ewabq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love’s Encore</a> by Rachel Ryan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43YCZDD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Queen Move</a> by Kennedy Ryan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43YCWYt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ravishing the Heiress</a> by Sherry Thomas</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43TdG5L" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Day of the Duchess</a> by Sarah MacLean</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3FwRnLn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Daring and the Duke</a> by Sarah MacLean</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3FRXn1b" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Before I Let Go</a> by Kennedy Ryan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jMYk99" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">If I Told You, I’d Have to Kiss You</a> by Mae Marvel</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4mQVTVL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Left of Forever</a> by Tarah DeWitt</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3HzA9gK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Designing his Duchess</a> by Gabrielle Carr</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3TeNpdk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Lot Like Adios</a> by Alexis Daria</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4l2Deo5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Broken by the Horde King</a> by Zoey Draven</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Zoc6rg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">It Seemed Like a Good Idea at the Time</a> by Kylie Scott</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ku57FG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Make Me Hate You</a> by Kandi Steiner</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3FvhClm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dreams of Dark Warrior</a> by Kresley Cole</li></ul><br/><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li><a href="https://www.togethxr.com/collections/all?srsltid=AfmBOoq_XhrX-OLJHXwGHuo6jPvF3x-VSC3meu8BeacrirZTGbFxOHe6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Everyone watches women’s sports. </a>You can watch <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/06/opinion/basketball-pay-disparity-men-women.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">basketball</a>, women’s <a href="https://www.uslsuperleague.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">soccer</a>a, and the new <a href="https://theausl.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">softball league</a>. Get out there, go do stuff in your town!&nbsp;</li><li>We had a second chance romance episode <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/4/19/s0335-second-chance-romance-interstitial-with-priscilla-oliveras" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">back in season 3 with Priscilla Oliveras</a>. </li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>1001 Dark Nights</strong>, publishers of <a href="https://amzn.to/3HDXGND" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Dark Clouds and Bright Skies: A Grumpy Sunshine Collection</em></a>, with novellas by Joanna Wylde, Kristen Proby, Larissa Ione and Laura Kaye, available in ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/3HDXGND" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Ava Miles</strong>, author of <em>The Hockey Experiment</em>, available in print, ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/4jQDxRX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Meghan Quinn</strong>, author of <em>Till Summer Do Us Part</em>, available in print, ebook, or audiobook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/3HAIsZW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Avon Books</strong>, publishers of Holly Michelle's <em>Last Night Was Fun</em>, available in print, ebook or audio from <a href="https://amzn.to/3SM7XK4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/last-night-was-fun/id6670788917" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/last-night-was-fun-holly-michelle/1146276771" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/last-night-was-fun" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063420366" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/6/9/0738-a-second-chance-on-second-chance-romance </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																																									We're taking a second run at second chance romance this week, and while we intended to recommend a million books, we ended up talking about all the ways this trope really works and really doesn't work for us! We're talking about rekindling love, unrequited love, resurrecting old wounds, the unforgivable stuff and of course, <em>pining. </em>It's a long one, and yes, Jen is talking about present tense. </p><p>If you love this one, you can listen to our first <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/4/19/s0335-second-chance-romance-interstitial-with-priscilla-oliveras" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Second Chance Romance episode</a> with Priscilla Oliveras here. </p><p>It's that time of year again--Sarah's next book, <em>These Summer Storms </em>is out in July and she is going on tour! What's more, there is a real deal Fated Mates LIVE planned for July 8th in St. Louis, MO! Get tickets to any of these events (Jen will be at a bunch of them, and other pod friends will be popping up along the way) at <a href="https://sarahmaclean.net/tour" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sarahmaclean.net/tour</a>! If you can't make the tour, you can <a href="https://www.therippedbodice.com/product/these-summer-storms-sarah-maclean-signed" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">preorder&nbsp;<em>These Summer Storms&nbsp;</em>signed with a special romance dust jacket</a> from The Ripped Bodice. </p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><h2>The Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43Ewabq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love’s Encore</a> by Rachel Ryan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43YCZDD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Queen Move</a> by Kennedy Ryan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43YCWYt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ravishing the Heiress</a> by Sherry Thomas</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43TdG5L" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Day of the Duchess</a> by Sarah MacLean</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3FwRnLn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Daring and the Duke</a> by Sarah MacLean</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3FRXn1b" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Before I Let Go</a> by Kennedy Ryan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jMYk99" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">If I Told You, I’d Have to Kiss You</a> by Mae Marvel</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4mQVTVL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Left of Forever</a> by Tarah DeWitt</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3HzA9gK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Designing his Duchess</a> by Gabrielle Carr</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3TeNpdk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Lot Like Adios</a> by Alexis Daria</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4l2Deo5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Broken by the Horde King</a> by Zoey Draven</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Zoc6rg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">It Seemed Like a Good Idea at the Time</a> by Kylie Scott</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ku57FG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Make Me Hate You</a> by Kandi Steiner</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3FvhClm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dreams of Dark Warrior</a> by Kresley Cole</li></ul><br/><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li><a href="https://www.togethxr.com/collections/all?srsltid=AfmBOoq_XhrX-OLJHXwGHuo6jPvF3x-VSC3meu8BeacrirZTGbFxOHe6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Everyone watches women’s sports. </a>You can watch <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/06/opinion/basketball-pay-disparity-men-women.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">basketball</a>, women’s <a href="https://www.uslsuperleague.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">soccer</a>a, and the new <a href="https://theausl.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">softball league</a>. Get out there, go do stuff in your town!&nbsp;</li><li>We had a second chance romance episode <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/4/19/s0335-second-chance-romance-interstitial-with-priscilla-oliveras" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">back in season 3 with Priscilla Oliveras</a>. </li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>1001 Dark Nights</strong>, publishers of <a href="https://amzn.to/3HDXGND" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Dark Clouds and Bright Skies: A Grumpy Sunshine Collection</em></a>, with novellas by Joanna Wylde, Kristen Proby, Larissa Ione and Laura Kaye, available in ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/3HDXGND" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Ava Miles</strong>, author of <em>The Hockey Experiment</em>, available in print, ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/4jQDxRX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Meghan Quinn</strong>, author of <em>Till Summer Do Us Part</em>, available in print, ebook, or audiobook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/3HAIsZW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Avon Books</strong>, publishers of Holly Michelle's <em>Last Night Was Fun</em>, available in print, ebook or audio from <a href="https://amzn.to/3SM7XK4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/last-night-was-fun/id6670788917" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/last-night-was-fun-holly-michelle/1146276771" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/last-night-was-fun" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063420366" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/6/9/0738-a-second-chance-on-second-chance-romance </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/6/9/0738-a-second-chance-on-second-chance-romance]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">a3366f54-4419-4c1c-bf43-0ecd90139ab8</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2025 22:18:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/a3366f54-4419-4c1c-bf43-0ecd90139ab8.mp3" length="95603160" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:39:09</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>43</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>43</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-508d6e9e-40ee-4b86-807d-00dab4ef8229.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S07.37: Run Posy Run by Cate C. Wells</title><itunes:title>Run Posy Run by Cate C. Wells</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Another deep dive episode, and this one feels like it shouldn't have taken so long! We're reading Run Posy Run, talking about the way Cate C. Wells walks a fine line of mafia romance while keeping the book on the morality chain side of the line from dark romance. We talk about heroines against the wall, heroes who have to suffer, the way violence fits into these romances, and about sex and how it's deployed in these books to enormous effect. </p><p>We love this one (as you all know), and we were so excited to go back to it and give it the deep read it deserved. You can find all of our deep dives at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/book-club" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Fated Mates Book Club</a>. </p><p>It's that time of year again--Sarah's next book, <em>These Summer Storms</em> (complete with sexy, silent, deeply competent hero) is out in July and she is going on tour! What's more, there is a real deal Fated Mates LIVE planned for July 8th in St. Louis, MO! Get tickets to any of these events (Jen will be at a bunch of them, and other pod friends will be popping up along the way) at <a href="https://sarahmaclean.net/tour" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sarahmaclean.net/tour</a>! If you can't make the tour, you can <a href="https://www.therippedbodice.com/product/these-summer-storms-sarah-maclean-signed" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">preorder&nbsp;<em>These Summer Storms&nbsp;</em>signed with a special romance dust jacket</a> from The Ripped Bodice. </p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><h2>The Book</h2><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3FHAGN9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Run Posy Run</a> by Cate C. Wells</p><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>A boat, ship whatever, <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c991n8p4pdyo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ran into the Brooklyn Bridge</a>, and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/reel/DJzfxjrPsZg/?igsh=ODQ5OXhjd2NydWI5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here’s a video of a woman who is a mariner explaining what might have happened</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>The Chicago River is an engineering marvel.<a href="https://www.wttw.com/chicago-river-tour/how-chicago-reversed-river-animated" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> In 1887, they reversed the river</a> and sent it out to the Mississippi rather than having it flow into Lake Michigan. They were moving rivers around in Rhode Island because of Mayor SOMEBODY and his desire to turn Providence into the Venice of the United States. <a href="https://waterfire.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Waterfire is a Providence thing</a>, but it isn’t the same as <a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/cuyahoga-river-caught-fire-least-dozen-times-no-one-cared-until-1969-180972444/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the water fire[s] in Cleveland</a>. The greatest of <a href="https://www.glslcompactcouncil.org/about/about-the-great-lakes-st-lawrence-basin/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Great Lakes</a> is <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/lakesuperior.bsky.social/post/3lqnxndmxfc2f" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lake Superior, to be honest, and it’s not afraid to tell everyone about it.</a> Station Eleven is a great book set in and around the Great Lakes. No one ever talks about Lake Huron <a href="https://amzn.to/4kQdNGk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">except for Jenny Holiday</a>. <a href="https://www.jupmode.com/products/great-lakes-great-times-shirt?srsltid=AfmBOooogOkpk-9R6kyK8P6PziglF5KXQmveLb4d8BsqC3s5QKXgI72i" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Great Lakes, Great Times!</a></li><li>The New Jersey mob <a href="https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2012/04/sopranos-oral-history" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">loved The Sopranos</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>There is a short story now available about Dario &amp; Posy’s daughter called <a href="https://amzn.to/43XwBOa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Made Man</a>.</li><li><a href="https://theconversation.com/whats-the-difference-between-a-psychopath-and-a-sociopath-less-than-you-might-think-226714" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The psychopath vs. sociopath continuum.</a>&nbsp; </li><li>You can listen to our previous episodes for more about the difference between <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/3/23/s0331-morality-chain-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">morality chain</a> and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/6/19/s0345-dark-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">dark romance</a>.&nbsp; </li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Patricia Grayhall</strong>, author of <em>A Place for Us</em>, available in print and ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/3SBZdWW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-place-for-us-patricia-grayhall/1146445984?ean=9781647429133" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/a-place-for-us-19?sId=9d98646c-a984-4b75-bbf9-880163bf13d5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/ca/book/a-place-for-us/id6737196630" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781647429126" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Underlined: Where Books Are Life</strong>, a place for young readers to explore find their next book obsession along with quizzes, reading lists, book trailers and more. Visit <a href="https://getunderlined.com/podcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">getunderlined.com</a>.</li><li><strong>Darci St. John</strong>, author of <em>Racing Heart</em>, available in print, ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/3Hn8XSk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Avon Books</strong>, publishers of Alexis Daria's <em>Along Came Amor</em>, available in print, ebook or audio from <a href="https://amzn.to/4kIvnMg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/along-came-amor/id6444945034" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/along-came-amor-alexis-daria/1142795391?ean=9780062960009" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/along-came-amor-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780062960009" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/6/3/0737-run-posy-run-by-cate-c-wells </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another deep dive episode, and this one feels like it shouldn't have taken so long! We're reading Run Posy Run, talking about the way Cate C. Wells walks a fine line of mafia romance while keeping the book on the morality chain side of the line from dark romance. We talk about heroines against the wall, heroes who have to suffer, the way violence fits into these romances, and about sex and how it's deployed in these books to enormous effect. </p><p>We love this one (as you all know), and we were so excited to go back to it and give it the deep read it deserved. You can find all of our deep dives at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/book-club" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Fated Mates Book Club</a>. </p><p>It's that time of year again--Sarah's next book, <em>These Summer Storms</em> (complete with sexy, silent, deeply competent hero) is out in July and she is going on tour! What's more, there is a real deal Fated Mates LIVE planned for July 8th in St. Louis, MO! Get tickets to any of these events (Jen will be at a bunch of them, and other pod friends will be popping up along the way) at <a href="https://sarahmaclean.net/tour" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sarahmaclean.net/tour</a>! If you can't make the tour, you can <a href="https://www.therippedbodice.com/product/these-summer-storms-sarah-maclean-signed" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">preorder&nbsp;<em>These Summer Storms&nbsp;</em>signed with a special romance dust jacket</a> from The Ripped Bodice. </p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><h2>The Book</h2><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3FHAGN9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Run Posy Run</a> by Cate C. Wells</p><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>A boat, ship whatever, <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c991n8p4pdyo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ran into the Brooklyn Bridge</a>, and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/reel/DJzfxjrPsZg/?igsh=ODQ5OXhjd2NydWI5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here’s a video of a woman who is a mariner explaining what might have happened</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>The Chicago River is an engineering marvel.<a href="https://www.wttw.com/chicago-river-tour/how-chicago-reversed-river-animated" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> In 1887, they reversed the river</a> and sent it out to the Mississippi rather than having it flow into Lake Michigan. They were moving rivers around in Rhode Island because of Mayor SOMEBODY and his desire to turn Providence into the Venice of the United States. <a href="https://waterfire.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Waterfire is a Providence thing</a>, but it isn’t the same as <a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/cuyahoga-river-caught-fire-least-dozen-times-no-one-cared-until-1969-180972444/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the water fire[s] in Cleveland</a>. The greatest of <a href="https://www.glslcompactcouncil.org/about/about-the-great-lakes-st-lawrence-basin/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Great Lakes</a> is <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/lakesuperior.bsky.social/post/3lqnxndmxfc2f" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lake Superior, to be honest, and it’s not afraid to tell everyone about it.</a> Station Eleven is a great book set in and around the Great Lakes. No one ever talks about Lake Huron <a href="https://amzn.to/4kQdNGk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">except for Jenny Holiday</a>. <a href="https://www.jupmode.com/products/great-lakes-great-times-shirt?srsltid=AfmBOooogOkpk-9R6kyK8P6PziglF5KXQmveLb4d8BsqC3s5QKXgI72i" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Great Lakes, Great Times!</a></li><li>The New Jersey mob <a href="https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2012/04/sopranos-oral-history" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">loved The Sopranos</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>There is a short story now available about Dario &amp; Posy’s daughter called <a href="https://amzn.to/43XwBOa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Made Man</a>.</li><li><a href="https://theconversation.com/whats-the-difference-between-a-psychopath-and-a-sociopath-less-than-you-might-think-226714" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The psychopath vs. sociopath continuum.</a>&nbsp; </li><li>You can listen to our previous episodes for more about the difference between <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/3/23/s0331-morality-chain-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">morality chain</a> and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/6/19/s0345-dark-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">dark romance</a>.&nbsp; </li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Patricia Grayhall</strong>, author of <em>A Place for Us</em>, available in print and ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/3SBZdWW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-place-for-us-patricia-grayhall/1146445984?ean=9781647429133" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/a-place-for-us-19?sId=9d98646c-a984-4b75-bbf9-880163bf13d5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/ca/book/a-place-for-us/id6737196630" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781647429126" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Underlined: Where Books Are Life</strong>, a place for young readers to explore find their next book obsession along with quizzes, reading lists, book trailers and more. Visit <a href="https://getunderlined.com/podcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">getunderlined.com</a>.</li><li><strong>Darci St. John</strong>, author of <em>Racing Heart</em>, available in print, ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/3Hn8XSk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Avon Books</strong>, publishers of Alexis Daria's <em>Along Came Amor</em>, available in print, ebook or audio from <a href="https://amzn.to/4kIvnMg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/along-came-amor/id6444945034" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/along-came-amor-alexis-daria/1142795391?ean=9780062960009" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/along-came-amor-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780062960009" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/6/3/0737-run-posy-run-by-cate-c-wells </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/6/3/0737-run-posy-run-by-cate-c-wells]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">48edc6c6-6123-416b-825d-497441eb0ccd</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2025 22:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/48edc6c6-6123-416b-825d-497441eb0ccd.mp3" length="156354499" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>02:42:26</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>42</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>42</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-ef75722e-8fd8-4210-b1f6-22e03841b99e.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S07.36: Celebrity + Normie Romance</title><itunes:title>Celebrity + Normie Romance</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Sarah is over the moon that we're talking about celebrities again, especially because we're keeping it tight this time around and limiting it to celebrity/normal person romance (mostly -- Jen is ungovernable)! Yes, Sarah is going to talk about <em>Perfect</em>, but also we're going to talk about celebrities who fall for stranger normies, for normies they knew before they were celebrities, for normies who work with them, and for normies who protect them. The episode is 1200 books long and honestly, we're not sorry. </p><p>In case you wondered why Sarah is breaking her rule about talking about her own books, it's that time of year again! Her next book, <em>These Summer Storms</em> (complete with sexy, silent, deeply competent hero) is out in July and is going on tour, and there is a real deal Fated Mates LIVE planned for July 8th in St. Louis, MO! Get tickets to any of these events (Jen will be at a bunch of them, and other pod friends will be popping up along the way) at <a href="https://sarahmaclean.net/tour" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sarahmaclean.net/tour</a>! If you can't make the tour, you can <a href="https://www.therippedbodice.com/product/these-summer-storms-sarah-maclean-signed" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">preorder <em>These Summer Storms </em>signed with a special romance dust jacket</a> from The Ripped Bodice. </p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p>Our next read along is Cate C Wells's <em>Run Posy Run</em>, available right now in print or ebook, or with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited at <a href="https://amzn.to/44HX8A1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/gb/audiobook/run-posy-run-unabridged/id1641752042" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, and <a href="https://www.awin1.com/cread.php?awinmid=25361&amp;awinaffid=1785000&amp;ued=https%3A%2F%2Flibro.fm%2Faudiobooks%2F9781960486417" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Libro.fm</a>.</p><h2>The Books </h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3SJzPP7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Perfect</a> by Judith McNaught</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43y5xUc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">All The Feels</a> by Olivia Dade</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jq668G" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Hollywood Jinx</a> by Sariah Wilson</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3SiZv4R" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fan Service</a> by Rosie Danan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3HuhTVW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Not a Bad Boy</a> by Louisa Edwards</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4kHAUmt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LOL</a> by Lucy Lennox &amp; Molly Maddox</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3ZCKr5U" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Mechanic</a> by Reina Torres</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43tdERV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Stand-In</a> by Lily Chu</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/45r3iVi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Decoy Girlfriend</a> by Lillie Vale</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4kBhPlC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">32 Days in May</a> by Betty Corrello</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3SZMihn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Bollywood Bride</a> by Sonali Dev</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jlS2gj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ghosted </a>by JM Darhower</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Frm8kH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Small Town Swoon</a> by Melanie Harlow</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43rA2et" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Just Playing House</a> by Farah Heron</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/44VFVmD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Just for the Holidays</a> by Adriana Herrera</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3SjWjWC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">When I Think of You</a> by Myah Ariel</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4dC8KXt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What I Did for Love</a> by Susan Elizabeth Phillips</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3FzQbXg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Just the Sexiest Man Alive</a> by Julie James</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/45qbxRs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Into the Woods</a> by Jenny Holiday</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43dLrji" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nora Goes Off Script</a> by Annabel Monaghan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jk1YqI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Set Piece</a> by Lana Schwartz</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3H6GT5N" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Funny You Should Ask</a> by Elissa Sussman</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jitSmU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Mixtape</a> by Brittainy Cherry</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3HcRL1L" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Bodyguard</a> by Katherine Center</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Spzn8p" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Keep Her Safe</a> by QB Tyler</li></ul><br/><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li>Pilsen is a great Chicago neighborhood that has historically been home to Mexican-Americans, including <a href="https://nationalmuseumofmexicanart.org/resources/neighborhood-mural-walk-guide-2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">stunning murals throughout the neighborhood</a>. But also, that <a href="https://youtu.be/ZUvbcDXM5RA?si=KBgrH_SES_E7fPkU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chicago dust bowl of 2025</a> was not so great!&nbsp;&nbsp;</li><li>Summer book tour is upon us. Check out Sarah’s book tour, including dates for Fated Mates Live. In Chicago, Jen will be at <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.ca/events/32648384/last-chapter-bookshop" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Last Chapter with Mia Sosa</a> for her book When Javie Dumped Mari on June 30th and <a href="https://www.chicagobooksinbloom.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Books in Bloom Event</a> hosted by the Chicago North Romance Writers in July.</li><li>Jen went out for <a href="https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/romance-author-kennedy-ryan-new-book-cant-get-enough-1235336985/?scrlybrkr=958e9960" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kennedy Ryan’s tour</a> for her new book, <em>Can’t Get Enough</em>.</li><li>We’ve had versions of the celebrity romance in previous seasons: the <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/5/8/s0434-celebrity-romance-novels" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">celebrity romance in season 4</a>, way back in <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/5/rock-star-romance-interstitial-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">season 1 we did an episode on rock star romance</a>, and sports romance with <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/4/23/115-sports-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jenny Nordbak in season 1</a>, with <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/8/17/s0353-sports-romance-interstitial-with-farrah-rochon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Farrah Rochon in season 3</a>, and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/11/6/s0609-sports-romance-with-jessica-luther" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jessica Luther in season 6</a>.&nbsp;And no, we haven't done a bodyguard episode, but check out Caroline's <a href="https://fatedmates.net/i-can-be-your-bodyguard-romance-recs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"I Can Be Your Bodyguard" collection</a>! </li><li>The primordial celebrity/normie romance for Jen is the movie <a href="https://youtu.be/4RI0QvaGoiI?si=fLiDfGCK6mTXr9NN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Notting Hill with Hugh Grant and Julia Roberts</a>. For Sarah, the primordial celebrity normie book was <a href="https://amzn.to/3SJzPP7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Perfect</em> by Judith McNaught</a>. As it turns out, <a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000424/?scrlybrkr=958e9960" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hugh Grant</a> and <a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0413168/bio/?ref_=nm_ov_ql_1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hugh Jackman</a> are not the same person. </li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Alice Murphy</strong>, author of <em>A Showgirl's Rules for Falling in Love</em>, available in print and ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/3HrC1Ik" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-showgirls-rules-for-falling-in-love-alice-murphy/1146493830?ean=9781454959465" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/a-showgirl-s-rules-for-falling-in-love?sId=ffc0777e-68ce-4b2e-befb-fc1dff576a15" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/a-showgirls-rules-for-falling-in-love/id6743615721" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781454959465" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>. </li><li><strong>Blue Box Press</strong>, publishers of Lexi Blake's <em>Built to Last</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/3Sofrmh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/built-to-last-lexi-blake/1145654325?ean=2940185881439" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/built-to-last/id6503259309" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a>, <a...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah is over the moon that we're talking about celebrities again, especially because we're keeping it tight this time around and limiting it to celebrity/normal person romance (mostly -- Jen is ungovernable)! Yes, Sarah is going to talk about <em>Perfect</em>, but also we're going to talk about celebrities who fall for stranger normies, for normies they knew before they were celebrities, for normies who work with them, and for normies who protect them. The episode is 1200 books long and honestly, we're not sorry. </p><p>In case you wondered why Sarah is breaking her rule about talking about her own books, it's that time of year again! Her next book, <em>These Summer Storms</em> (complete with sexy, silent, deeply competent hero) is out in July and is going on tour, and there is a real deal Fated Mates LIVE planned for July 8th in St. Louis, MO! Get tickets to any of these events (Jen will be at a bunch of them, and other pod friends will be popping up along the way) at <a href="https://sarahmaclean.net/tour" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sarahmaclean.net/tour</a>! If you can't make the tour, you can <a href="https://www.therippedbodice.com/product/these-summer-storms-sarah-maclean-signed" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">preorder <em>These Summer Storms </em>signed with a special romance dust jacket</a> from The Ripped Bodice. </p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p>Our next read along is Cate C Wells's <em>Run Posy Run</em>, available right now in print or ebook, or with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited at <a href="https://amzn.to/44HX8A1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/gb/audiobook/run-posy-run-unabridged/id1641752042" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, and <a href="https://www.awin1.com/cread.php?awinmid=25361&amp;awinaffid=1785000&amp;ued=https%3A%2F%2Flibro.fm%2Faudiobooks%2F9781960486417" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Libro.fm</a>.</p><h2>The Books </h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3SJzPP7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Perfect</a> by Judith McNaught</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43y5xUc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">All The Feels</a> by Olivia Dade</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jq668G" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Hollywood Jinx</a> by Sariah Wilson</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3SiZv4R" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fan Service</a> by Rosie Danan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3HuhTVW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Not a Bad Boy</a> by Louisa Edwards</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4kHAUmt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LOL</a> by Lucy Lennox &amp; Molly Maddox</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3ZCKr5U" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Mechanic</a> by Reina Torres</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43tdERV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Stand-In</a> by Lily Chu</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/45r3iVi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Decoy Girlfriend</a> by Lillie Vale</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4kBhPlC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">32 Days in May</a> by Betty Corrello</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3SZMihn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Bollywood Bride</a> by Sonali Dev</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jlS2gj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ghosted </a>by JM Darhower</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Frm8kH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Small Town Swoon</a> by Melanie Harlow</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43rA2et" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Just Playing House</a> by Farah Heron</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/44VFVmD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Just for the Holidays</a> by Adriana Herrera</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3SjWjWC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">When I Think of You</a> by Myah Ariel</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4dC8KXt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What I Did for Love</a> by Susan Elizabeth Phillips</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3FzQbXg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Just the Sexiest Man Alive</a> by Julie James</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/45qbxRs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Into the Woods</a> by Jenny Holiday</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43dLrji" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nora Goes Off Script</a> by Annabel Monaghan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jk1YqI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Set Piece</a> by Lana Schwartz</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3H6GT5N" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Funny You Should Ask</a> by Elissa Sussman</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jitSmU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Mixtape</a> by Brittainy Cherry</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3HcRL1L" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Bodyguard</a> by Katherine Center</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Spzn8p" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Keep Her Safe</a> by QB Tyler</li></ul><br/><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li>Pilsen is a great Chicago neighborhood that has historically been home to Mexican-Americans, including <a href="https://nationalmuseumofmexicanart.org/resources/neighborhood-mural-walk-guide-2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">stunning murals throughout the neighborhood</a>. But also, that <a href="https://youtu.be/ZUvbcDXM5RA?si=KBgrH_SES_E7fPkU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chicago dust bowl of 2025</a> was not so great!&nbsp;&nbsp;</li><li>Summer book tour is upon us. Check out Sarah’s book tour, including dates for Fated Mates Live. In Chicago, Jen will be at <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.ca/events/32648384/last-chapter-bookshop" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Last Chapter with Mia Sosa</a> for her book When Javie Dumped Mari on June 30th and <a href="https://www.chicagobooksinbloom.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Books in Bloom Event</a> hosted by the Chicago North Romance Writers in July.</li><li>Jen went out for <a href="https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/romance-author-kennedy-ryan-new-book-cant-get-enough-1235336985/?scrlybrkr=958e9960" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kennedy Ryan’s tour</a> for her new book, <em>Can’t Get Enough</em>.</li><li>We’ve had versions of the celebrity romance in previous seasons: the <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/5/8/s0434-celebrity-romance-novels" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">celebrity romance in season 4</a>, way back in <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/5/rock-star-romance-interstitial-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">season 1 we did an episode on rock star romance</a>, and sports romance with <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/4/23/115-sports-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jenny Nordbak in season 1</a>, with <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/8/17/s0353-sports-romance-interstitial-with-farrah-rochon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Farrah Rochon in season 3</a>, and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/11/6/s0609-sports-romance-with-jessica-luther" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jessica Luther in season 6</a>.&nbsp;And no, we haven't done a bodyguard episode, but check out Caroline's <a href="https://fatedmates.net/i-can-be-your-bodyguard-romance-recs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"I Can Be Your Bodyguard" collection</a>! </li><li>The primordial celebrity/normie romance for Jen is the movie <a href="https://youtu.be/4RI0QvaGoiI?si=fLiDfGCK6mTXr9NN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Notting Hill with Hugh Grant and Julia Roberts</a>. For Sarah, the primordial celebrity normie book was <a href="https://amzn.to/3SJzPP7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Perfect</em> by Judith McNaught</a>. As it turns out, <a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000424/?scrlybrkr=958e9960" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hugh Grant</a> and <a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0413168/bio/?ref_=nm_ov_ql_1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hugh Jackman</a> are not the same person. </li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Alice Murphy</strong>, author of <em>A Showgirl's Rules for Falling in Love</em>, available in print and ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/3HrC1Ik" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-showgirls-rules-for-falling-in-love-alice-murphy/1146493830?ean=9781454959465" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/a-showgirl-s-rules-for-falling-in-love?sId=ffc0777e-68ce-4b2e-befb-fc1dff576a15" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/a-showgirls-rules-for-falling-in-love/id6743615721" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781454959465" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>. </li><li><strong>Blue Box Press</strong>, publishers of Lexi Blake's <em>Built to Last</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/3Sofrmh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/built-to-last-lexi-blake/1145654325?ean=2940185881439" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/built-to-last/id6503259309" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/built-to-last-53?sId=36f55341-860f-4318-9702-5b5b24ea3f98" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781963135213" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>. </li><li><strong>Bailey Seaborn</strong>, author of <em>All Twerk, No Play</em>, available in print, ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/45vgVCW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Avery Maxwell</strong>, author of <em>Heart Strings and Hotlines</em>, available in print or ebook, from <a href="https://amzn.to/4mRS7eT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/heart-strings-hotlines-avery-maxwell/1147417865?ean=9798886438994" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9798886438994" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>.</li><li><strong>Vedentro</strong>, premium leather accessories. Use code FATHER at checkout to get $25 off. If you sign-up on the website you will receive an email with an additional $45 off, for a total savings of $70. Visit <a href="https://vedentro.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">vedentro.com</a> for more info.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/5/26/0735-celebrity-normie </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/5/26/0735-celebrity-normie]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">282ea58d-d8b3-4176-9ac6-ab84698d212d</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2025 00:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/282ea58d-d8b3-4176-9ac6-ab84698d212d.mp3" length="112094349" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:56:20</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>41</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>41</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-75a5a34d-b3df-49c1-bd1a-3d5cadf02e9b.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S07.35: On the Shelf with Spinsters and Wallflowers</title><itunes:title>On the Shelf with Spinsters and Wallflowers</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>One of the og romance tropes is on the table today -- we're talking about heroines who are on the shelf! It's not quite wallflowers, not quite ruined, not quite spinsters...it's a very particular flavor of unmarried woman, and one we basically only find in historicals (can you tell Sarah is writing?). We're talking about the subtle nuances of heroines on the shelf and honoring some of the classics...but Sarah's got a batch of books we've never talked about before! </p><p>Also! It's that time of year again! Sarah has a new book out in July and is going on tour, and there is a real deal Fated Mates LIVE planned for July 8th in St. Louis, MO! Get tickets to any of these events (Jen will be at a bunch of them, and other pod friends will be popping up along the way) at <a href="https://sarahmaclean.net/tour" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sarahmaclean.net/tour</a>!</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p>Our next read along is Cate C Wells's <em>Run Posy Run</em>, available right now in print or ebook, or with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited at <a href="https://amzn.to/44HX8A1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/gb/audiobook/run-posy-run-unabridged/id1641752042" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, and <a href="https://www.awin1.com/cread.php?awinmid=25361&amp;awinaffid=1785000&amp;ued=https%3A%2F%2Flibro.fm%2Faudiobooks%2F9781960486417" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Libro.fm</a>.</p><h2>Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4kkXxwS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nine Rules to Break When Romancing a Rake</a> by Sarah MacLean</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/44zYufX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Proposition</a> by Judith Ivory</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4db6rui" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Viscount Who Loved Me</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/3YGaV6m" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Romancing Mr. Bridgerton</a> by Julia Quinn</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43lMwoa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Night to Surrender</a> by Tessa Dare</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/44zYA7j" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">An Earl Like You</a> by Caroline Linden</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3SCGIkQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Along Came a Duke</a> by Elizabeth Boyle</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3GT76o8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">One for the Rogue</a> by Manda Collins</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3EYpkEd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">His Wicked Reputation</a> by Madeline Hunter</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3SxUmFX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love is a Rogue</a> by Lenora Bell</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43eHj1l" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Taming His Viking Woman</a> by Michelle Styles</li></ul><br/><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>Check out the <a href="https://fatedmates.net/discover-great-romance-books-curated-by-expert-humans" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Collections Department</a> for fun groups of books, organized by real people.&nbsp;</li><li>On the shelf, wallflowers, and <a href="https://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/love-sex/relationships/a30868873/spinster/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">spinsters</a>.</li><li>What does being a spinster look like now? </li><li>- <a href="https://louisadarling.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Louisa Darling</a> suggested <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@gettothepointbro/video/7495548922002165022" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the French Guy who made a TikTok about “dating a girl who is used to being alone.”</a></li><li>- A contemporary example (other than <a href="https://amzn.to/43iXdrt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bridget Jones</a>) is <a href="https://amzn.to/458LspT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gracie from Heaven, Texas</a> by Susan Elizabeth Phillips.&nbsp;</li><li>Author <a href="https://www.madelinehunter.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Madeline Hunter</a> died in April and was an important member of the romance community. A professor and historian, for many years, Madeline was chair of the RWA Academic Grant Committee, ensuring that researchers and academics had access to funds to research and write about romance. She wrote <a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/happyeverafter/2015/02/11/romance-unlaced-madeline-hunter-spinster-heroines/23186529/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this piece</a> about spinsters for <em>USA Today</em> in 2015. Our thoughts are with her family, friends and readers.</li></ul><br/><h2>SPONSORS</h2><ul><li><strong>Ava Rani</strong>, author of <em>The Charmer</em>, available in print, ebook, and audio from <a href="https://amzn.to/3F2l6vk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-charmer-ava-rani/1146170611?ean=9780063413689" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-charmer-25?sId=47db167e-fdff-4377-a495-ef19f3ca26e7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-charmer/id6633432521" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780063413689" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>, and <a href="https://www.awin1.com/cread.php?awinmid=25361&amp;awinaffid=1785000&amp;ued=https%3A%2F%2Flibro.fm%2Faudiobooks%2F9780063413696" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Libro.fm</a>. </li><li><strong>1001 Dark Nights</strong>, publishers of <em>Sparks and Surrender: An Enemies-To-Lovers Collection</em>, available in print or ebook or with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited from <a href="https://amzn.to/44ycmHH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>. </li><li><strong>Susan Lee</strong>, author of T<em>he Romance Rivalry</em>, available in print, ebook, or audio, from <a href="https://amzn.to/3S4lwnN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-romance-rivalry-susan-lee/1147404833?ean=9781335012876" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-romance-rivalry-1?sId=d72253dd-dba5-455b-aeeb-cf97c7ca5a53" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-romance-rivalry/id6745697626" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780369761453" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>, and <a href="https://www.awin1.com/cread.php?awinmid=25361&amp;awinaffid=1785000&amp;ued=https%3A%2F%2Flibro.fm%2Faudiobooks%2F9781488234569" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Libro.fm</a>.</li><li><strong>Stephanie Rose</strong>, author of <em>A Whole New Ball Game</em>, available in print or ebook, from <a href="https://amzn.to/3GT6sXD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-whole-new-ball-game-stephanie-rose/1118166844?ean=9798886439656" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9798886439656" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/5/12/s0735-on-the-shelf-with-spinsters-amp-wallflowers </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the og romance tropes is on the table today -- we're talking about heroines who are on the shelf! It's not quite wallflowers, not quite ruined, not quite spinsters...it's a very particular flavor of unmarried woman, and one we basically only find in historicals (can you tell Sarah is writing?). We're talking about the subtle nuances of heroines on the shelf and honoring some of the classics...but Sarah's got a batch of books we've never talked about before! </p><p>Also! It's that time of year again! Sarah has a new book out in July and is going on tour, and there is a real deal Fated Mates LIVE planned for July 8th in St. Louis, MO! Get tickets to any of these events (Jen will be at a bunch of them, and other pod friends will be popping up along the way) at <a href="https://sarahmaclean.net/tour" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sarahmaclean.net/tour</a>!</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p>Our next read along is Cate C Wells's <em>Run Posy Run</em>, available right now in print or ebook, or with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited at <a href="https://amzn.to/44HX8A1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/gb/audiobook/run-posy-run-unabridged/id1641752042" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, and <a href="https://www.awin1.com/cread.php?awinmid=25361&amp;awinaffid=1785000&amp;ued=https%3A%2F%2Flibro.fm%2Faudiobooks%2F9781960486417" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Libro.fm</a>.</p><h2>Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4kkXxwS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nine Rules to Break When Romancing a Rake</a> by Sarah MacLean</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/44zYufX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Proposition</a> by Judith Ivory</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4db6rui" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Viscount Who Loved Me</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/3YGaV6m" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Romancing Mr. Bridgerton</a> by Julia Quinn</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43lMwoa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Night to Surrender</a> by Tessa Dare</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/44zYA7j" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">An Earl Like You</a> by Caroline Linden</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3SCGIkQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Along Came a Duke</a> by Elizabeth Boyle</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3GT76o8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">One for the Rogue</a> by Manda Collins</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3EYpkEd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">His Wicked Reputation</a> by Madeline Hunter</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3SxUmFX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love is a Rogue</a> by Lenora Bell</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43eHj1l" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Taming His Viking Woman</a> by Michelle Styles</li></ul><br/><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>Check out the <a href="https://fatedmates.net/discover-great-romance-books-curated-by-expert-humans" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Collections Department</a> for fun groups of books, organized by real people.&nbsp;</li><li>On the shelf, wallflowers, and <a href="https://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/love-sex/relationships/a30868873/spinster/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">spinsters</a>.</li><li>What does being a spinster look like now? </li><li>- <a href="https://louisadarling.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Louisa Darling</a> suggested <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@gettothepointbro/video/7495548922002165022" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the French Guy who made a TikTok about “dating a girl who is used to being alone.”</a></li><li>- A contemporary example (other than <a href="https://amzn.to/43iXdrt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bridget Jones</a>) is <a href="https://amzn.to/458LspT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gracie from Heaven, Texas</a> by Susan Elizabeth Phillips.&nbsp;</li><li>Author <a href="https://www.madelinehunter.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Madeline Hunter</a> died in April and was an important member of the romance community. A professor and historian, for many years, Madeline was chair of the RWA Academic Grant Committee, ensuring that researchers and academics had access to funds to research and write about romance. She wrote <a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/happyeverafter/2015/02/11/romance-unlaced-madeline-hunter-spinster-heroines/23186529/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this piece</a> about spinsters for <em>USA Today</em> in 2015. Our thoughts are with her family, friends and readers.</li></ul><br/><h2>SPONSORS</h2><ul><li><strong>Ava Rani</strong>, author of <em>The Charmer</em>, available in print, ebook, and audio from <a href="https://amzn.to/3F2l6vk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-charmer-ava-rani/1146170611?ean=9780063413689" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-charmer-25?sId=47db167e-fdff-4377-a495-ef19f3ca26e7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-charmer/id6633432521" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780063413689" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>, and <a href="https://www.awin1.com/cread.php?awinmid=25361&amp;awinaffid=1785000&amp;ued=https%3A%2F%2Flibro.fm%2Faudiobooks%2F9780063413696" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Libro.fm</a>. </li><li><strong>1001 Dark Nights</strong>, publishers of <em>Sparks and Surrender: An Enemies-To-Lovers Collection</em>, available in print or ebook or with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited from <a href="https://amzn.to/44ycmHH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>. </li><li><strong>Susan Lee</strong>, author of T<em>he Romance Rivalry</em>, available in print, ebook, or audio, from <a href="https://amzn.to/3S4lwnN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-romance-rivalry-susan-lee/1147404833?ean=9781335012876" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-romance-rivalry-1?sId=d72253dd-dba5-455b-aeeb-cf97c7ca5a53" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-romance-rivalry/id6745697626" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780369761453" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>, and <a href="https://www.awin1.com/cread.php?awinmid=25361&amp;awinaffid=1785000&amp;ued=https%3A%2F%2Flibro.fm%2Faudiobooks%2F9781488234569" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Libro.fm</a>.</li><li><strong>Stephanie Rose</strong>, author of <em>A Whole New Ball Game</em>, available in print or ebook, from <a href="https://amzn.to/3GT6sXD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-whole-new-ball-game-stephanie-rose/1118166844?ean=9798886439656" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9798886439656" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/5/12/s0735-on-the-shelf-with-spinsters-amp-wallflowers </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/5/12/s0735-on-the-shelf-with-spinsters-amp-wallflowers]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">a64b0b5f-096d-4386-b44e-c0ba7117eac5</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/0cf35e2e-1c2a-45d6-a3bd-14448ef3c218/l6NHGSUqYvUdsKfiRdJ5YTOW.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2025 21:30:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/a64b0b5f-096d-4386-b44e-c0ba7117eac5.mp3" length="77467603" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:20:10</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>39</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>39</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-a4c7a0c2-a48b-40ad-af61-bfa1d0d1ba41.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S07.34: The Third Act Break-Up (Complimentary)</title><itunes:title>The Third Act Break-Up (Complimentary)</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We're gonna get people excited with this one (it's us. we're the ones who are getting excited). Back by popular demand, we're talking craft this week--digging deep into the third-act breakup, what it really means, why it's misunderstood, and why it really is essential to romance. Sarah suggests that every romance has one whether people like to admit it or not, Jen is, as always, ready to fight. Strap in! </p><p>Also! It's that time of year again! Sarah has a new book out in July and is going on tour, and there is a real deal Fated Mates LIVE planned for July 8th in St. Louis, MO! Get tickets to any of these events (Jen will be at a bunch of them, and other pod friends will be popping up along the way) at <a href="https://sarahmaclean.net/tour" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sarahmaclean.net/tour</a>!</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><h2>The Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3GEqHIB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dreaming of You</a> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3F4mDAO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Something Wilder</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/3GIg8Eo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Beautiful Stranger</a> by Christina Lauren</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42Ja9I1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hidden Truths</a> by Neva Altaj</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3EFaQcl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Marrying Winterborne</a> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/437bRSF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Forbidden</a> by Beverly Jenkins</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/431CBUt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Duke Who Didn’t</a> by Courtney Milan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/436J8NK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lead </a>by Kylie Scott</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3SoRBGU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kiss an Angel</a> by Susan Elizabeth Phillips</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jQQsnJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">How to End a Love Story</a> by Yulin Kang</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3RQkNqk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Painted Scars</a> by Neva Altaj</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4m3D551" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MacRieve</a> by Kresley Cole</li></ul><br/><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>We love Sephora and Ulta, and Sarah has some faves from Dermatology Instagram, like <a href="https://www.instagram.com/dermangelo?igsh=anBkY2VuNmIycHk2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">dermangelo</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/drdrayzday?igsh=YTVzMGNvbm0wYzk0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">drdrayzday</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.sarahmaclean.net/tour" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah’s on tour for These Summer Storms</a> in July, and<a href="https://thenovelneighbor.com/events/2634920250708" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Fated Mates Live will be in St. Louis</a>!!&nbsp;</li><li>Sarah recommends the audio of <a href="https://amzn.to/430Liy9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Hero’s 2 Journeys</a> by Michael Hauge</li><li>In our discussion, we identified several types of third act break-ups: Going Home Again, Self-Sacrifice, Who am I?, and You Fucked All the Way Up.&nbsp;</li><li>An <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SD_card" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">SD card</a>, for you youths.</li></ul><br/><h2><strong>Sponsors</strong></h2><ul><li><strong>Dani Francis</strong>, author of <em>Silver Elite</em>, available in print or ebook, from <a href="https://amzn.to/4jH3QdU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/silver-elite-dani-francis/1146138300?ean=9780593875469" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/silver-elite?srsltid=AfmBOoqF7mXLdKEiM0Px8-PVFEYLp5NbLOur6X0TAXHbcdnotSjCKIA-" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/silver-elite/id6615084037" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780593875469" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Cara Dion</strong>, author of <em>Claim to Fame</em>, available in print or ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/3GUknwy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.</li><li><strong>Rachel Griffiths</strong>, author of <em>The Trouble with Anna</em>, available in print, ebook, audio, from <a href="https://amzn.to/4ctdRZB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-trouble-with-anna-rachel-griffiths/1145682355?ean=9781668052945" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-trouble-with-anna?sId=233e01cc-e651-47bd-a6b2-e8eb97a8715a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-trouble-with-anna/id6503704202" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-trouble-with-anna-rachel-griffiths/21534187?ean=9781668052945&amp;next=t" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Anna Todd</strong>, author of <em>The Last Sunrise, </em>available in print or ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/3Z3YAZC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-last-sunrise-anna-todd/1146385204" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-last-sunrise-17?sId=774a9882-ed54-48f2-abfb-3db0a615d97f" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-last-sunrise/id6736625189" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781668079539" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/5/5/0734-the-third-act-break-up-complimentary </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We're gonna get people excited with this one (it's us. we're the ones who are getting excited). Back by popular demand, we're talking craft this week--digging deep into the third-act breakup, what it really means, why it's misunderstood, and why it really is essential to romance. Sarah suggests that every romance has one whether people like to admit it or not, Jen is, as always, ready to fight. Strap in! </p><p>Also! It's that time of year again! Sarah has a new book out in July and is going on tour, and there is a real deal Fated Mates LIVE planned for July 8th in St. Louis, MO! Get tickets to any of these events (Jen will be at a bunch of them, and other pod friends will be popping up along the way) at <a href="https://sarahmaclean.net/tour" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sarahmaclean.net/tour</a>!</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><h2>The Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3GEqHIB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dreaming of You</a> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3F4mDAO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Something Wilder</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/3GIg8Eo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Beautiful Stranger</a> by Christina Lauren</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42Ja9I1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hidden Truths</a> by Neva Altaj</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3EFaQcl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Marrying Winterborne</a> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/437bRSF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Forbidden</a> by Beverly Jenkins</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/431CBUt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Duke Who Didn’t</a> by Courtney Milan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/436J8NK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lead </a>by Kylie Scott</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3SoRBGU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kiss an Angel</a> by Susan Elizabeth Phillips</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jQQsnJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">How to End a Love Story</a> by Yulin Kang</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3RQkNqk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Painted Scars</a> by Neva Altaj</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4m3D551" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MacRieve</a> by Kresley Cole</li></ul><br/><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>We love Sephora and Ulta, and Sarah has some faves from Dermatology Instagram, like <a href="https://www.instagram.com/dermangelo?igsh=anBkY2VuNmIycHk2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">dermangelo</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/drdrayzday?igsh=YTVzMGNvbm0wYzk0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">drdrayzday</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.sarahmaclean.net/tour" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah’s on tour for These Summer Storms</a> in July, and<a href="https://thenovelneighbor.com/events/2634920250708" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Fated Mates Live will be in St. Louis</a>!!&nbsp;</li><li>Sarah recommends the audio of <a href="https://amzn.to/430Liy9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Hero’s 2 Journeys</a> by Michael Hauge</li><li>In our discussion, we identified several types of third act break-ups: Going Home Again, Self-Sacrifice, Who am I?, and You Fucked All the Way Up.&nbsp;</li><li>An <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SD_card" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">SD card</a>, for you youths.</li></ul><br/><h2><strong>Sponsors</strong></h2><ul><li><strong>Dani Francis</strong>, author of <em>Silver Elite</em>, available in print or ebook, from <a href="https://amzn.to/4jH3QdU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/silver-elite-dani-francis/1146138300?ean=9780593875469" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/silver-elite?srsltid=AfmBOoqF7mXLdKEiM0Px8-PVFEYLp5NbLOur6X0TAXHbcdnotSjCKIA-" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/silver-elite/id6615084037" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780593875469" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Cara Dion</strong>, author of <em>Claim to Fame</em>, available in print or ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/3GUknwy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.</li><li><strong>Rachel Griffiths</strong>, author of <em>The Trouble with Anna</em>, available in print, ebook, audio, from <a href="https://amzn.to/4ctdRZB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-trouble-with-anna-rachel-griffiths/1145682355?ean=9781668052945" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-trouble-with-anna?sId=233e01cc-e651-47bd-a6b2-e8eb97a8715a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-trouble-with-anna/id6503704202" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-trouble-with-anna-rachel-griffiths/21534187?ean=9781668052945&amp;next=t" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Anna Todd</strong>, author of <em>The Last Sunrise, </em>available in print or ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/3Z3YAZC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-last-sunrise-anna-todd/1146385204" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-last-sunrise-17?sId=774a9882-ed54-48f2-abfb-3db0a615d97f" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-last-sunrise/id6736625189" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781668079539" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/5/5/0734-the-third-act-break-up-complimentary </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/5/5/0734-the-third-act-break-up-complimentary]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">91e79be1-e893-4ba5-8eb0-98efab29cf74</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2025 23:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/91e79be1-e893-4ba5-8eb0-98efab29cf74.mp3" length="85083412" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:28:12</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>38</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>38</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-5b037aa8-ce59-4fa8-904e-c1eee717b8d1.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S07.33: Heated Rivalry by Rachel Reid</title><itunes:title>Heated Rivalry by Rachel Reid</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Today we're headed back in the time machine to before the pandemic when everyone but us read this one m/m hockey book and lost their collective minds! <em>Heated Rivalry</em> is one of those books that romance lovers place high up on their keeper shelf, and we're talking about why, about how it really knocks sports romance out of the park (yes, we're aware that there is no knocking out of parks in hockey), and how it might be one of the books that launched a thousand hockey ships. </p><p>We're talking about erotica vs. erotic romance vs. romance, about sexy secrets, about first names and about why it's always sexy when people say "I love you" in a foreign language. </p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><h2>The Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4keu7R1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heated Rivalry</a></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4keu7R1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Long Game</a></li></ul><br/><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>Visit the Fated Mates <a href="https://fatedmates.net/discover-great-romance-books-curated-by-expert-humans" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Collections Department</a> for great romance recommendations organized by micro tropes, characteristics, subgenres, or things like <a href="https://fatedmates.net/virgin-heroes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Virgin Heroes</a>. Check out Jen’s collection <a href="https://fatedmates.net/basketball-romance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hoop! (There It Is)</a> and listen to the 1993 hit song, <a href="https://youtu.be/Z-FPimCmbX8?si=9NvhXlaOr0_2k_t_" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Whoomp! (There It Is)</a> by <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-hit_wonder?scrlybrkr=958e9960" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tag Team</a>.</li><li>Barnes &amp; Noble and <a href="https://www.fastcompany.com/91323620/independent-bookstore-day-amazon-book-sale-sparks-backlash" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon holding sales</a> during <a href="https://lithub.com/something-good-in-the-world-lets-celebrate-independent-bookstore-day-this-weekend/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Independent Bookstore day</a> felt super icky. If you missed it this year, maybe you can find a great indie to visit next year. It’s always the last Saturday in April. </li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2024927/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alan Ritchson</a> is Jack Reacher, <a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000614/?scrlybrkr=958e9960&amp;ref_=ext_shr_lnk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alan Rickman</a> is not.</li><li>On the road to the NHL, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IIHF_World_Junior_Championship?scrlybrkr=958e9960" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the World Juniors</a> is pretty important.&nbsp;</li><li>Professional sports <a href="https://outonthefields.com/media/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">are notably homophobic</a>, <a href="https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/longform/hockeys-homophobic-language-problem-putting-kids-lives-risk/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">especially</a> <a href="https://www.npr.org/2023/10/12/1205476006/nhl-bans-pride-tape-backlash" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the NHL</a> despite its <a href="https://www.broadstreethockey.com/post/why-flyers-pride-nights-truly-matter/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">history of hosting</a> <a href="https://victorypress.org/2023/03/17/lets-be-honest-about-what-nhl-pride-nights-actually-are/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">pride nights</a>. <a href="https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/whl-alumni-luke-prokop-releases-160330588.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Luke Prokop is the only openly gay professional hockey player</a>, but he does not play in the NHL at this time.&nbsp; The professional sports league with <a href="https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/wnba-players-queer-fandom" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the most openly queer players is the WNBA</a>, which also has <a href="https://youtu.be/o7QHDO4D8Bs?si=FaBLR2F_0eSJJDjw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a past history of enforcing certain gender norms and gender presentation for its players.</a></li><li>Leagues create rivalries between players and teams in order to promote their brand and ratings. A WNBA case study is <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clark%E2%80%93Reese_rivalry" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Angel Reese &amp; Caitlin Clark</a>.</li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Measured &amp; Slow</strong>, purveyors of unique crafted products for people who love books and whimsy. Visit the shop at <a href="https://measuredandslow.studio" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">measuredandslow.studio</a>.</li><li><strong>Jillian David</strong>, author of <em>Paging Dr. Breakup</em>, available in print or ebook, from <a href="https://amzn.to/3RFznko" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/paging-dr-breakup-jillian-david/1146553229?ean=2940184573625" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/paging-dr-breakup?sId=d4aa69ba-ee12-4702-9edd-abbd6fb1e0d0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/au/book/paging-dr-breakup/id6738290278" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or wherever you get your books.</li><li><strong>LaQuette</strong>, author of <em>Royal Bride Demand, </em>available in print or ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/4lSil03" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/royal-bride-demand-laquette/1145949213" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/royal-bride-demand?sId=ea95e006-3dca-4220-a565-3ec45b8dc264" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/royal-bride-demand/id6506429786" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781335939753" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/4/28/0733-heated-rivalry-by-rachel-reid </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today we're headed back in the time machine to before the pandemic when everyone but us read this one m/m hockey book and lost their collective minds! <em>Heated Rivalry</em> is one of those books that romance lovers place high up on their keeper shelf, and we're talking about why, about how it really knocks sports romance out of the park (yes, we're aware that there is no knocking out of parks in hockey), and how it might be one of the books that launched a thousand hockey ships. </p><p>We're talking about erotica vs. erotic romance vs. romance, about sexy secrets, about first names and about why it's always sexy when people say "I love you" in a foreign language. </p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><h2>The Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4keu7R1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heated Rivalry</a></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4keu7R1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Long Game</a></li></ul><br/><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>Visit the Fated Mates <a href="https://fatedmates.net/discover-great-romance-books-curated-by-expert-humans" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Collections Department</a> for great romance recommendations organized by micro tropes, characteristics, subgenres, or things like <a href="https://fatedmates.net/virgin-heroes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Virgin Heroes</a>. Check out Jen’s collection <a href="https://fatedmates.net/basketball-romance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hoop! (There It Is)</a> and listen to the 1993 hit song, <a href="https://youtu.be/Z-FPimCmbX8?si=9NvhXlaOr0_2k_t_" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Whoomp! (There It Is)</a> by <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-hit_wonder?scrlybrkr=958e9960" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tag Team</a>.</li><li>Barnes &amp; Noble and <a href="https://www.fastcompany.com/91323620/independent-bookstore-day-amazon-book-sale-sparks-backlash" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon holding sales</a> during <a href="https://lithub.com/something-good-in-the-world-lets-celebrate-independent-bookstore-day-this-weekend/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Independent Bookstore day</a> felt super icky. If you missed it this year, maybe you can find a great indie to visit next year. It’s always the last Saturday in April. </li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2024927/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alan Ritchson</a> is Jack Reacher, <a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000614/?scrlybrkr=958e9960&amp;ref_=ext_shr_lnk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alan Rickman</a> is not.</li><li>On the road to the NHL, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IIHF_World_Junior_Championship?scrlybrkr=958e9960" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the World Juniors</a> is pretty important.&nbsp;</li><li>Professional sports <a href="https://outonthefields.com/media/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">are notably homophobic</a>, <a href="https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/longform/hockeys-homophobic-language-problem-putting-kids-lives-risk/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">especially</a> <a href="https://www.npr.org/2023/10/12/1205476006/nhl-bans-pride-tape-backlash" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the NHL</a> despite its <a href="https://www.broadstreethockey.com/post/why-flyers-pride-nights-truly-matter/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">history of hosting</a> <a href="https://victorypress.org/2023/03/17/lets-be-honest-about-what-nhl-pride-nights-actually-are/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">pride nights</a>. <a href="https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/whl-alumni-luke-prokop-releases-160330588.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Luke Prokop is the only openly gay professional hockey player</a>, but he does not play in the NHL at this time.&nbsp; The professional sports league with <a href="https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/wnba-players-queer-fandom" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the most openly queer players is the WNBA</a>, which also has <a href="https://youtu.be/o7QHDO4D8Bs?si=FaBLR2F_0eSJJDjw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a past history of enforcing certain gender norms and gender presentation for its players.</a></li><li>Leagues create rivalries between players and teams in order to promote their brand and ratings. A WNBA case study is <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clark%E2%80%93Reese_rivalry" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Angel Reese &amp; Caitlin Clark</a>.</li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Measured &amp; Slow</strong>, purveyors of unique crafted products for people who love books and whimsy. Visit the shop at <a href="https://measuredandslow.studio" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">measuredandslow.studio</a>.</li><li><strong>Jillian David</strong>, author of <em>Paging Dr. Breakup</em>, available in print or ebook, from <a href="https://amzn.to/3RFznko" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/paging-dr-breakup-jillian-david/1146553229?ean=2940184573625" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/paging-dr-breakup?sId=d4aa69ba-ee12-4702-9edd-abbd6fb1e0d0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/au/book/paging-dr-breakup/id6738290278" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or wherever you get your books.</li><li><strong>LaQuette</strong>, author of <em>Royal Bride Demand, </em>available in print or ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/4lSil03" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/royal-bride-demand-laquette/1145949213" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/royal-bride-demand?sId=ea95e006-3dca-4220-a565-3ec45b8dc264" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/royal-bride-demand/id6506429786" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781335939753" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/4/28/0733-heated-rivalry-by-rachel-reid </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/4/28/0733-heated-rivalry-by-rachel-reid]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">e4cb17ea-8265-403a-a7bf-031a77a931d0</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2025 23:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/e95cef10-70bd-4b95-b18f-d6129270d0dc/fated-mates-heated-rivalry.mp3" length="90822610" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:34:10</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>37</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>37</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-e95cef10-70bd-4b95-b18f-d6129270d0dc.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S07.32: Ruination!</title><itunes:title>Ruination!</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We're talking about the worst possible thing that can happen to a romance heroine today (it's always the heroines) -- ruination! Whether the hero did it, another man did it, or society simply decided that she's ruined, there's simply nothing to be done about it...except revenge, a triumphant return, or the crowning of a new reigning queen. We cover all three here, with almost entirely new to the pod books, and even get some contemporaries into the mix!</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p>Our next read along is Rachel Reid's Heated Rivalry, which you can get in print, ebook, audiobook or <a href="https://amzn.to/41VOD2k" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>. Find it at <a href="https://amzn.to/41VOD2k" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/heated-rivalry-rachel-reid/1129486546" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/heated-rivalry-4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/heated-rivalry/id6446993012" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/heated-rivalry-original-rachel-reid/18611721?ean=9781335468437&amp;next=t" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.  </p><h2>Books Mentioned In This Episode</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3YIZXwC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chasing Cassandra</a> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42PfA7g" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Duchess Hunt</a> by Lorraine Heath</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jBNqTO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Scot in the Dark</a> by Sarah MacLean</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Y88oBv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wicked &amp; The Wallflower</a> by Sarah MacLean</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3RpBjgJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Marrying Winterborne</a> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4it4fPM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Magic of You</a> by Joanna Lindsay</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42UcfVp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Little Bit Wild</a> by Victoria Dahl</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4cRBbAw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Harlot Countess</a> by Joanna Shupe</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3YcjYvn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Again the Magic</a> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3YETQJG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tempt Me at Twilight</a> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4cDHreO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wild Rain</a> by Beverly Jenkins</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3YcP2LE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Rake</a> by Suzanne Enoch</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jl22HF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Compromised</a> by Kate Noble</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42L2AQ1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ride Steady</a> by Kristen Ashley</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jNRLnb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">After Hours on Milagro Street</a> by Angelina M Lopez</li></ul><br/><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>The <a href="https://collider.com/katy-perry-was-just-buried-on-social-media-for-her-space-trip-and-heres-why/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">space domination of Katy Perry</a> is depressing compared to the <a href="https://futurism.com/katy-perry-rocket-nasa-scrubbing-women" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">space demotion happening to real women scientists.&nbsp;&nbsp;</a></li><li>In terms of plotting and the hero, Anne Stuart’s <a href="https://amzn.to/4io5AY8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Breathless</a> (2010) might be a good precursor to what we call dark romance today.</li><li>Actually, you say ratafia <a href="https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/pronunciation/english/ratafia" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">like this</a>.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</li><li>Check out the <a href="https://event.auctria.com/33e28a8d-b461-4bb6-83c6-d39afc2a11d8/aa6cd270-8751-11e9-a741-3fcfcb35cbb0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2025 Lift for Autism auction</a>, sponsored by Kennedy Ryan.</li><li>Stay tuned at the end of the episode for a sneak peek of <a href="https://amzn.to/3ECtt0j" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the audiobook of Piper Rayne's <em>The One I Didn't See Coming</em></a>. </li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>1001 Dark Nights</strong>, publishers of <em>Pride and Passion: A LGBTQIA+ Love Collection</em>, available in print or ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/44aJvsR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Jess K Hardy</strong>, author of <em>Wish You Were Here</em>, available in print or ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/44FmZZ9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Mara Moody</strong>, author of <em>The Reunion Recipe, </em>available in print or ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/4cJl7jX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-reunion-recipe-mara-moody/1146168140" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9798991123402" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Piper Rayne</strong>, author of <em>The One I Didn't See Coming, </em>available in print, audiobook or ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/3RvNbxF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>. </li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/4/21/0732-ruination </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We're talking about the worst possible thing that can happen to a romance heroine today (it's always the heroines) -- ruination! Whether the hero did it, another man did it, or society simply decided that she's ruined, there's simply nothing to be done about it...except revenge, a triumphant return, or the crowning of a new reigning queen. We cover all three here, with almost entirely new to the pod books, and even get some contemporaries into the mix!</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p>Our next read along is Rachel Reid's Heated Rivalry, which you can get in print, ebook, audiobook or <a href="https://amzn.to/41VOD2k" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>. Find it at <a href="https://amzn.to/41VOD2k" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/heated-rivalry-rachel-reid/1129486546" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/heated-rivalry-4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/heated-rivalry/id6446993012" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/heated-rivalry-original-rachel-reid/18611721?ean=9781335468437&amp;next=t" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.  </p><h2>Books Mentioned In This Episode</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3YIZXwC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chasing Cassandra</a> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42PfA7g" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Duchess Hunt</a> by Lorraine Heath</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jBNqTO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Scot in the Dark</a> by Sarah MacLean</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Y88oBv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wicked &amp; The Wallflower</a> by Sarah MacLean</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3RpBjgJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Marrying Winterborne</a> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4it4fPM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Magic of You</a> by Joanna Lindsay</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42UcfVp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Little Bit Wild</a> by Victoria Dahl</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4cRBbAw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Harlot Countess</a> by Joanna Shupe</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3YcjYvn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Again the Magic</a> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3YETQJG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tempt Me at Twilight</a> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4cDHreO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wild Rain</a> by Beverly Jenkins</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3YcP2LE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Rake</a> by Suzanne Enoch</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jl22HF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Compromised</a> by Kate Noble</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42L2AQ1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ride Steady</a> by Kristen Ashley</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jNRLnb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">After Hours on Milagro Street</a> by Angelina M Lopez</li></ul><br/><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>The <a href="https://collider.com/katy-perry-was-just-buried-on-social-media-for-her-space-trip-and-heres-why/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">space domination of Katy Perry</a> is depressing compared to the <a href="https://futurism.com/katy-perry-rocket-nasa-scrubbing-women" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">space demotion happening to real women scientists.&nbsp;&nbsp;</a></li><li>In terms of plotting and the hero, Anne Stuart’s <a href="https://amzn.to/4io5AY8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Breathless</a> (2010) might be a good precursor to what we call dark romance today.</li><li>Actually, you say ratafia <a href="https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/pronunciation/english/ratafia" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">like this</a>.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</li><li>Check out the <a href="https://event.auctria.com/33e28a8d-b461-4bb6-83c6-d39afc2a11d8/aa6cd270-8751-11e9-a741-3fcfcb35cbb0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2025 Lift for Autism auction</a>, sponsored by Kennedy Ryan.</li><li>Stay tuned at the end of the episode for a sneak peek of <a href="https://amzn.to/3ECtt0j" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the audiobook of Piper Rayne's <em>The One I Didn't See Coming</em></a>. </li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>1001 Dark Nights</strong>, publishers of <em>Pride and Passion: A LGBTQIA+ Love Collection</em>, available in print or ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/44aJvsR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Jess K Hardy</strong>, author of <em>Wish You Were Here</em>, available in print or ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/44FmZZ9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Mara Moody</strong>, author of <em>The Reunion Recipe, </em>available in print or ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/4cJl7jX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-reunion-recipe-mara-moody/1146168140" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9798991123402" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Piper Rayne</strong>, author of <em>The One I Didn't See Coming, </em>available in print, audiobook or ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/3RvNbxF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>. </li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/4/21/0732-ruination </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/4/21/0732-ruination]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">3c64cfcb-fd2c-4c1f-b9a0-c5e8a5bc616e</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2025 22:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/47d8f7b1-c887-4298-9ea9-510da0877d9d/fated-mates-ruination.mp3" length="109263153" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:53:23</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>36</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>36</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-47d8f7b1-c887-4298-9ea9-510da0877d9d.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S07.31: Romance on the Run</title><itunes:title>Romance on the Run</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Sarah has a longtime fantasy of being on the lam, but let's be honest, she'd be caught reading a book in the nearest diner as soon as anyone got serious about looking for her. This week, we're talking about books in which characters are much more serious about being on the run! We break the category into people on the move and people in hiding, but also talk about secrets, about lies, and about how love really is about telling something all the truths you've got. </p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p>Our next read along is Rachel Reid's Heated Rivalry, which you can get in print, ebook, audiobook or <a href="https://amzn.to/41VOD2k" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>. Find it at <a href="https://amzn.to/41VOD2k" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/heated-rivalry-rachel-reid/1129486546" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/heated-rivalry-4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/heated-rivalry/id6446993012" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/heated-rivalry-original-rachel-reid/18611721?ean=9781335468437&amp;next=t" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.  </p><h2>The Books </h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4cC3W46" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Master</a> by Kresley Cole</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4igakiq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Run Posy Run</a> by Cate Wells</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3EkDsY8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Claiming the Courtesan</a> by Anna Campbell</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3E58hju" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Burn Down the Night</a> by M. O’Keefe</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4lvkEGi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dragon Bound</a> by Thea Harrison</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42IcLFV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tycoon</a> by Joanna Shupe</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ltQqDz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Something Wilder</a> by Christina Lauren</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/428UqSi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">If I Told You, I’d Have to Kiss You</a> by Mae Marvel</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3G8tYzK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hunter</a> by Emmy Chandler</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/429aGTo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stranded</a> by Jennifer D. Bokal</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42cLUSn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Harpy and the Dragon</a> by Marie Liscomb</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ibFV4U" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wyoming Double Jeopardy</a> by Juno Rushdan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3G7cDHm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bourbon and Lies</a> by Victoria Wilder</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42bDM4x" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hunted Through Italy</a> by Delaney Diamond</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jv76sj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dalliances &amp; Devotion</a> by Felicia Grossman</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3G5Vk9r" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kiss the Girl</a> by Zoraida Cordova</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jtqsy5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Under Her Skin</a> by Adriana Anders</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42t1A2v" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Whiteout</a> by Adriana Anders</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4lscsqc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kink Camp: Hunted</a> by Adriana Anders</li></ul><br/><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/survey" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fill out the survey</a>, check out <a href="https://pagebound.co/quests/80c93f44-887b-43a2-a67b-8d73e2289611" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">our quests on Pagebound</a>, and the <a href="https://fatedmates.net/discover-great-romance-books-curated-by-expert-humans" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates Collections Department.</a></li><li>Thanks <a href="https://www.threads.net/@kimonlyreadsromance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@kimonlyreadsromance</a> from Threads for coming up with the name “discoverabilitybuddies” -- and for submitting a Collection for <a href="https://fatedmates.net/secret-tattoo-romance-books" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Books with Secret Tattoos</a>!</li><li>We’ve done deep dives of <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/17/15-the-master" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Master</a> and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/12/11/0614-dragon-bound-by-thea-harrison" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dragon Bound</a>. Run Posy Run and Whiteout have both appeared on <a href="https://fatedmates.net/best-romance-books-of-the-year" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">one of our year end “Best of” Lists</a>.</li><li>Mr. and Mrs Smith is <a href="https://youtu.be/CZ0B22z22pI?si=PKj-CIwPnJZ22dOs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a great movie</a> and <a href="https://youtu.be/AsaMWxppznk?si=MtHYGPrke3hIUIUw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a great tv show</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Just make some time to read <a href="https://www.sparknotes.com/short-stories/the-most-dangerous-game/full-text/the-most-dangerous-game/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Most Dangerous Game</a> by Richard Connell.</li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Michelle McCraw</strong>, author of <em>Conspiracies and Chemistry</em>, available in print or ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/42giByj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/conspiracies-and-chemistry-michelle-mccraw/1146113245?ean=9798317623784" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/conspiracies-and-chemistry-a-workplace-age-gap/id6602884412" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/conspiracies-and-chemistry?sId=79497647-5ac5-4af7-b3f6-b83db4bb65e6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781961373082" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>SE McPherson</strong>, author of <em>A King's Trust, </em>available in print or ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/4ltiA1D" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-kings-trust-se-mcpherson/1147077769?ean=9798992254310" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/a-kings-trust/id6742727644" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/a-king-s-trust?sId=fe3f8ece-b896-4b63-9b36-83bc2df8b6a6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9798992254310" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Lumi Gummies,</strong> THC gummies available nationwide. Go to <a href="https://lumigummies.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lumigummies.com</a> and use code FATEDMATES for 30% off your order.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/4/13/0731-romance-on-the-run </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Sarah has a longtime fantasy of being on the lam, but let's be honest, she'd be caught reading a book in the nearest diner as soon as anyone got serious about looking for her. This week, we're talking about books in which characters are much more serious about being on the run! We break the category into people on the move and people in hiding, but also talk about secrets, about lies, and about how love really is about telling something all the truths you've got. </p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p>Our next read along is Rachel Reid's Heated Rivalry, which you can get in print, ebook, audiobook or <a href="https://amzn.to/41VOD2k" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>. Find it at <a href="https://amzn.to/41VOD2k" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/heated-rivalry-rachel-reid/1129486546" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/heated-rivalry-4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/heated-rivalry/id6446993012" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/heated-rivalry-original-rachel-reid/18611721?ean=9781335468437&amp;next=t" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.  </p><h2>The Books </h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4cC3W46" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Master</a> by Kresley Cole</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4igakiq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Run Posy Run</a> by Cate Wells</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3EkDsY8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Claiming the Courtesan</a> by Anna Campbell</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3E58hju" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Burn Down the Night</a> by M. O’Keefe</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4lvkEGi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dragon Bound</a> by Thea Harrison</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42IcLFV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tycoon</a> by Joanna Shupe</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ltQqDz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Something Wilder</a> by Christina Lauren</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/428UqSi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">If I Told You, I’d Have to Kiss You</a> by Mae Marvel</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3G8tYzK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hunter</a> by Emmy Chandler</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/429aGTo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stranded</a> by Jennifer D. Bokal</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42cLUSn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Harpy and the Dragon</a> by Marie Liscomb</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ibFV4U" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wyoming Double Jeopardy</a> by Juno Rushdan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3G7cDHm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bourbon and Lies</a> by Victoria Wilder</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42bDM4x" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hunted Through Italy</a> by Delaney Diamond</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jv76sj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dalliances &amp; Devotion</a> by Felicia Grossman</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3G5Vk9r" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kiss the Girl</a> by Zoraida Cordova</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jtqsy5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Under Her Skin</a> by Adriana Anders</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42t1A2v" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Whiteout</a> by Adriana Anders</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4lscsqc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kink Camp: Hunted</a> by Adriana Anders</li></ul><br/><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/survey" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fill out the survey</a>, check out <a href="https://pagebound.co/quests/80c93f44-887b-43a2-a67b-8d73e2289611" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">our quests on Pagebound</a>, and the <a href="https://fatedmates.net/discover-great-romance-books-curated-by-expert-humans" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates Collections Department.</a></li><li>Thanks <a href="https://www.threads.net/@kimonlyreadsromance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@kimonlyreadsromance</a> from Threads for coming up with the name “discoverabilitybuddies” -- and for submitting a Collection for <a href="https://fatedmates.net/secret-tattoo-romance-books" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Books with Secret Tattoos</a>!</li><li>We’ve done deep dives of <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/17/15-the-master" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Master</a> and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/12/11/0614-dragon-bound-by-thea-harrison" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dragon Bound</a>. Run Posy Run and Whiteout have both appeared on <a href="https://fatedmates.net/best-romance-books-of-the-year" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">one of our year end “Best of” Lists</a>.</li><li>Mr. and Mrs Smith is <a href="https://youtu.be/CZ0B22z22pI?si=PKj-CIwPnJZ22dOs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a great movie</a> and <a href="https://youtu.be/AsaMWxppznk?si=MtHYGPrke3hIUIUw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a great tv show</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Just make some time to read <a href="https://www.sparknotes.com/short-stories/the-most-dangerous-game/full-text/the-most-dangerous-game/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Most Dangerous Game</a> by Richard Connell.</li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Michelle McCraw</strong>, author of <em>Conspiracies and Chemistry</em>, available in print or ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/42giByj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/conspiracies-and-chemistry-michelle-mccraw/1146113245?ean=9798317623784" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/conspiracies-and-chemistry-a-workplace-age-gap/id6602884412" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/conspiracies-and-chemistry?sId=79497647-5ac5-4af7-b3f6-b83db4bb65e6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781961373082" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>SE McPherson</strong>, author of <em>A King's Trust, </em>available in print or ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/4ltiA1D" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-kings-trust-se-mcpherson/1147077769?ean=9798992254310" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/a-kings-trust/id6742727644" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/a-king-s-trust?sId=fe3f8ece-b896-4b63-9b36-83bc2df8b6a6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9798992254310" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Lumi Gummies,</strong> THC gummies available nationwide. Go to <a href="https://lumigummies.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lumigummies.com</a> and use code FATEDMATES for 30% off your order.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/4/13/0731-romance-on-the-run </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/4/13/0731-romance-on-the-run]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">7922ed17-3410-46be-b491-ddf57713a791</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2025 23:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/b6ac053e-c45a-4ae8-a04b-4ea53e9cbc3a/fated-mates-on-the-run-revA.mp3" length="91262953" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:34:38</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>35</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>35</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-b6ac053e-c45a-4ae8-a04b-4ea53e9cbc3a.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S07.30:  Getting Things Done (to them): Romance with Lists</title><itunes:title>Getting Things Done (to them): Romance with Lists</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We're crossing off a classic romance novel structure this week -- the list! Whether life changing to-do lists, bucket lists, or lists for kinky exploration, these romances take characters and readers on remarkable rides, reminding us all that sometimes it really does pay to be organized. </p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p>Our next read along is Rachel Reid's Heated Rivalry, which you can get in print, ebook, audiobook or <a href="https://amzn.to/41VOD2k" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>. Find it at <a href="https://amzn.to/41VOD2k" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/heated-rivalry-rachel-reid/1129486546" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/heated-rivalry-4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/heated-rivalry/id6446993012" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/heated-rivalry-original-rachel-reid/18611721?ean=9781335468437&amp;next=t" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>. </p><h2>The Books </h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4lhGWeB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nine Rules to Break when Romancing a Rake</a> by Sarah MacLean</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Efvqj3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Get A Life, Chloe Brown</a> by Talia Hibbert</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3RDPPkV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Last Days of Lilah Goodluck</a> by Kylie Scott</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ip8Ket" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wicked Nights with a Lover</a> by Sophie Jordan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4llcWOJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What Heals Us</a> by Maggie Gates</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42yQJ8u" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Ending I Want</a> by Samantha Towle</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42zTEOg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Camera Chemistry</a> by Chelsea Curto</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42yIIjT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">30 Days</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/423zkVr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">30 Nights</a> by Christine d’Abo</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ji73jv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Seal’s Rebel Librarian</a> by Anne Calhoun</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4iSrQui" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">How to Fail at Flirting</a> by Denise Williams</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43KfkID" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rockaway Bride</a> by Pippa Grant</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ljWb6E" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mr. Swoony</a> by Piper Rayne</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4i9KSuR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Three Little Mistakes</a> by Nikki Sloan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4lk8VKn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">All Played Out </a>by Cora Carmack</li></ul><br/><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>We’re excited about these author and listener created lists at the <a href="/discover-great-romance-books-curated-by-expert-humans" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates Collections Department</a>. And in case you want to see the one from Competitive Yam about <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/RomanceBooks/comments/1iz47s6/stern_men_who_cant_stop_skinny_dipping_an/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Skinny dipping, here it is</a>.</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/Rxfkebdm5sM?si=kCuW81qeUNxqecOR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kelsey Plum’s cigar photos</a> <a href="https://www.cigaraficionado.com/article/my-favorite-cigar-fc5c17?scrlybrkr=958e9960" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">went viral</a> and now <a href="https://kingmakerscigars.com/kelseyplum" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">she models for a cigar company</a>. We love this for her.</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/vc3mkG21ob4?si=RJytH0tAGaCXmrtu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Bucket List</a> (2007) stars two terminally ill men, Morgan Freeman and Jack Nicholson. They are out checking items off their list before the “kick the bucket.”&nbsp;&nbsp;</li><li>We’ve done deep dives of several of the books on this episode: <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/3/19/s0427-nine-questions-about-nine-rules" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nine Rules</a>, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/7/26/s0445-get-a-life-chloe-brown-by-talia-hibbert" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chloe Brown</a>, and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/5/26/s0238-three-little-mistakes-by-nikki-sloane" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Three Little Mistakes.</a></li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>1001 Dark Nights</strong>, publishers of <em>Vows &amp; Veils: A Celebration of Love</em>, available in print or ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/42DYGt2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Elizabeth Bright</strong>, author of <em>Wild, Wild Cowboy, </em>available in print, or ebook, <a href="https://amzn.to/4jowcJq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">or with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Rachel Griffiths</strong>, author of <em>The Trouble with Anna</em>, available in print, ebook, audio, from <a href="https://amzn.to/4ctdRZB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-trouble-with-anna-rachel-griffiths/1145682355?ean=9781668052945" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-trouble-with-anna?sId=233e01cc-e651-47bd-a6b2-e8eb97a8715a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-trouble-with-anna/id6503704202" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-trouble-with-anna-rachel-griffiths/21534187?ean=9781668052945&amp;next=t" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Andrea Jenelle</strong>, author of <em>Spine of Steel</em>, available in print or ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/4jughcN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/4/7/0730-romances-with-a-bucket-list </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We're crossing off a classic romance novel structure this week -- the list! Whether life changing to-do lists, bucket lists, or lists for kinky exploration, these romances take characters and readers on remarkable rides, reminding us all that sometimes it really does pay to be organized. </p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p>Our next read along is Rachel Reid's Heated Rivalry, which you can get in print, ebook, audiobook or <a href="https://amzn.to/41VOD2k" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>. Find it at <a href="https://amzn.to/41VOD2k" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/heated-rivalry-rachel-reid/1129486546" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/heated-rivalry-4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/heated-rivalry/id6446993012" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/heated-rivalry-original-rachel-reid/18611721?ean=9781335468437&amp;next=t" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>. </p><h2>The Books </h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4lhGWeB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nine Rules to Break when Romancing a Rake</a> by Sarah MacLean</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Efvqj3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Get A Life, Chloe Brown</a> by Talia Hibbert</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3RDPPkV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Last Days of Lilah Goodluck</a> by Kylie Scott</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ip8Ket" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wicked Nights with a Lover</a> by Sophie Jordan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4llcWOJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What Heals Us</a> by Maggie Gates</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42yQJ8u" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Ending I Want</a> by Samantha Towle</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42zTEOg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Camera Chemistry</a> by Chelsea Curto</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42yIIjT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">30 Days</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/423zkVr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">30 Nights</a> by Christine d’Abo</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ji73jv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Seal’s Rebel Librarian</a> by Anne Calhoun</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4iSrQui" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">How to Fail at Flirting</a> by Denise Williams</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43KfkID" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rockaway Bride</a> by Pippa Grant</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ljWb6E" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mr. Swoony</a> by Piper Rayne</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4i9KSuR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Three Little Mistakes</a> by Nikki Sloan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4lk8VKn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">All Played Out </a>by Cora Carmack</li></ul><br/><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>We’re excited about these author and listener created lists at the <a href="/discover-great-romance-books-curated-by-expert-humans" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates Collections Department</a>. And in case you want to see the one from Competitive Yam about <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/RomanceBooks/comments/1iz47s6/stern_men_who_cant_stop_skinny_dipping_an/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Skinny dipping, here it is</a>.</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/Rxfkebdm5sM?si=kCuW81qeUNxqecOR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kelsey Plum’s cigar photos</a> <a href="https://www.cigaraficionado.com/article/my-favorite-cigar-fc5c17?scrlybrkr=958e9960" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">went viral</a> and now <a href="https://kingmakerscigars.com/kelseyplum" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">she models for a cigar company</a>. We love this for her.</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/vc3mkG21ob4?si=RJytH0tAGaCXmrtu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Bucket List</a> (2007) stars two terminally ill men, Morgan Freeman and Jack Nicholson. They are out checking items off their list before the “kick the bucket.”&nbsp;&nbsp;</li><li>We’ve done deep dives of several of the books on this episode: <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/3/19/s0427-nine-questions-about-nine-rules" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nine Rules</a>, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/7/26/s0445-get-a-life-chloe-brown-by-talia-hibbert" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chloe Brown</a>, and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/5/26/s0238-three-little-mistakes-by-nikki-sloane" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Three Little Mistakes.</a></li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>1001 Dark Nights</strong>, publishers of <em>Vows &amp; Veils: A Celebration of Love</em>, available in print or ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/42DYGt2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Elizabeth Bright</strong>, author of <em>Wild, Wild Cowboy, </em>available in print, or ebook, <a href="https://amzn.to/4jowcJq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">or with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Rachel Griffiths</strong>, author of <em>The Trouble with Anna</em>, available in print, ebook, audio, from <a href="https://amzn.to/4ctdRZB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-trouble-with-anna-rachel-griffiths/1145682355?ean=9781668052945" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-trouble-with-anna?sId=233e01cc-e651-47bd-a6b2-e8eb97a8715a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-trouble-with-anna/id6503704202" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-trouble-with-anna-rachel-griffiths/21534187?ean=9781668052945&amp;next=t" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Andrea Jenelle</strong>, author of <em>Spine of Steel</em>, available in print or ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/4jughcN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/4/7/0730-romances-with-a-bucket-list </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/4/7/0730-romances-with-a-bucket-list]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">3d4b7e46-8028-4fbb-87f0-36fcfe8149fb</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2025 22:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/c3bdd185-b57a-4e7c-83a9-519d409416ea/fated-mates-romance-with-lists.mp3" length="89354558" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:32:42</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>34</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>34</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-c3bdd185-b57a-4e7c-83a9-519d409416ea.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S07.29: Spring 2025 New Releases: Teasing Your TBR</title><itunes:title>Spring 2025 New Releases:  Teasing Your TBR</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It's our quarterly discoverabilibuddy episode! Get your TBR piles structurally sound and exercise that preorder clicking finger, because here are nearly 50 books coming out in the next three months that we're excited to read! Eric said next time we have to split it into two if we're going to keep talking about what's coming for hours... In the meantime, we're ungovernable! Tell us about the books you're waiting for...and if you're a romance novelist and have a book coming this year, please head over and <a href="https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScExMU79EvI0oWzQtKmBEcQbFow0SoZ2TxXk67NNyI3DWFHxA/viewform?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fill out our handy Google form</a> to let us know!</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p>Our next read along is Rachel Reid's Heated Rivalry, which you can get in print, ebook, audiobook or <a href="https://amzn.to/41VOD2k" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>. Find it at <a href="https://amzn.to/41VOD2k" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/heated-rivalry-rachel-reid/1129486546" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/heated-rivalry-4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/heated-rivalry/id6446993012" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/heated-rivalry-original-rachel-reid/18611721?ean=9781335468437&amp;next=t" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>. </p><h2>The Books </h2><p><strong>MARCH</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/426ncli" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Witch of Wall Street</a> by MJ Etkind</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3QY2cIj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Wager at Midnight</a> by Vanessa Riley</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3FKFYXO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lush</a> by Tinia Montford</li></ul><br/><p><strong>APRIL&nbsp;</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XB7ux9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Royal Bride Demand</a> by LaQuette</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3EaLuT5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wyoming Double Jeopardy</a> by Juno Rushdan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/423XKOJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Any Trope but You</a> by Victoria Lavine</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3QVO4iI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Whisk Me Away</a> by Georgia Beers</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4lthpPN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Playing for Keeps</a> by Lainey Davis</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43AgUge" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Nanny is Off Limits</a> by QB Tyler</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3FJIuxI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Marriage Bargain with the Comte</a> by Parker J. Cole&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jgWZYj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Lady’s Guide to London</a> by Faye Delecour</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jhKICV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Duke and the Widow</a> by Christina Diane</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4iQFG0o" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Naked in Naknek</a> by Lolu Sinclair</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jxh9xp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fly by Night</a> by Kelly Cain</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3QTUZJn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Matchmaker</a> by Aisha Saeed</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4cbviOh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Anywhere You Go</a> by Bridget Morrissey</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/41SxW7V" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Once Upon You &amp; Me</a> by Timothy Janovsky</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4cjU130" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gold Coast Dilemma</a> by Nana Malone</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hSSTEF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Last Guy You Kiss</a> by Carla de Guzman</li></ul><br/><p><strong>MAY</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ccCYQd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Left of Forever</a> by Tarah deWitt</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4cnga0k" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Time Loops &amp; Meet Cutes</a> by Jackie Lau</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42fUApL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Singular Life of Aria Patel</a> By Samira Ahmed</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4cdl9QR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bad Publicity</a> by Bianca Gillam</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hYUNDA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Showgirl’s Rules for Falling in Love</a> by Alice Murphy</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/428zPfE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love in Focus</a> by Lyla Lee</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4iNVlgG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Simple Twist of Fate</a> by April Asher</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3E1uZZA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">His Dark Vendetta</a> by Katelyn Brehm</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3E5gO5N" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Digging Dr. Jones</a> by Olivia Jackson</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hYV1dU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">All Superheroes Need PR</a> by Elizabeth Stephens</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4lc1KnE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Romance Rivalry</a> by Susan Lee</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4iOYNHY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Slipstream</a> by Madge Maril</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3FN5SKt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Katheryn</a> by SM LaViolette</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XI2jeW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Along Came Amor</a> by Alexis Daria</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/41R6eZh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hunted through Italy</a> by Delaney Diamond</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4caUc0e" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Marked by Moonlight</a> by Sophie Jordan</li></ul><br/><p><strong>JUNE</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3FPaRup" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Worth Fighting For</a> by Jesse Q. Sutanto</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3E2Vuhc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Empire of Seduction</a> by Milla Finelli&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3DPOVi9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Never been Shipped</a> by Alicia Thompson</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hZ6ry9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Writing Mr. Right</a> by Alina Khawaja</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/423YCTv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Party of Three</a> by C. Travis Rice</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42dffuM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Plus Sized Player</a> by Danielle Allen</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3E2VBcC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">When Javi Dumped Mari</a> by Mia Sosa</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4iW9poK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cruel Summer</a> by Maisy Yates</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Y9DAQE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Rare Find</a> by Joanna Lowell</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3QUhQ7B" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gloves Off</a> by Stephanie Archer</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XFODB1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Savannah Royals</a> by Lindsey Barrett</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jgXQbt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">He’s to Die For</a> by Erin Dunn</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jhLBvf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sounds like Love</a> By Ashely Poston</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4l9TK6r" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Writing Mr. Wrong</a> by Kelley Armstrong</li></ul><br/><h2>Bits and Pieces</h2><ul><li>We’ve collected our 76 (and counting!) deep dives at <a href="http://fatedmates.net/book-club" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/bookclub</a>, making it a fine place to discover your next great romance read. </li><li>And if you’re the type of person who’s always believed you deserve a medal for your reading prowess, you can <a href="https://pagebound.co/quests/80c93f44-887b-43a2-a67b-8d73e2289611" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">visit our friends at Pagebound.co</a>, where you can join our Fated Mates Book Club Challenge. </li><li>Don’t forget to tell us what you think of us in via our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/survey" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">annual survey</a>. We’re dying to know what you think. </li><li>The <a href="https://arc.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Arc browser</a> is almost a religion for Eric, but you should feel comforted by the fact that a normie like Sarah likes, too. </li><li>We love these great indie bookstores: <a href="https://www.montgomeryandtaggert.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Montgomery &amp; Taggert</a> (in our new favorite small town, Chester CT) and <a href="https://heartleafbooks.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heartleaf Books</a> in Providence, RI. </li><li>Nearly all of these titles are available at Bookshop.org. We <a href="https://bookshop.org/lists/spring-2025-romance-releases" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">created a collection</a> to make it easy for you. </li><li>We shared the <a href="https://pagebound.co/lists/8002d341-404d-4967-99b3-4dff101dd977" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">full...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's our quarterly discoverabilibuddy episode! Get your TBR piles structurally sound and exercise that preorder clicking finger, because here are nearly 50 books coming out in the next three months that we're excited to read! Eric said next time we have to split it into two if we're going to keep talking about what's coming for hours... In the meantime, we're ungovernable! Tell us about the books you're waiting for...and if you're a romance novelist and have a book coming this year, please head over and <a href="https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScExMU79EvI0oWzQtKmBEcQbFow0SoZ2TxXk67NNyI3DWFHxA/viewform?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fill out our handy Google form</a> to let us know!</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p>Our next read along is Rachel Reid's Heated Rivalry, which you can get in print, ebook, audiobook or <a href="https://amzn.to/41VOD2k" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>. Find it at <a href="https://amzn.to/41VOD2k" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/heated-rivalry-rachel-reid/1129486546" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/heated-rivalry-4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/heated-rivalry/id6446993012" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/heated-rivalry-original-rachel-reid/18611721?ean=9781335468437&amp;next=t" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>. </p><h2>The Books </h2><p><strong>MARCH</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/426ncli" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Witch of Wall Street</a> by MJ Etkind</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3QY2cIj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Wager at Midnight</a> by Vanessa Riley</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3FKFYXO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lush</a> by Tinia Montford</li></ul><br/><p><strong>APRIL&nbsp;</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XB7ux9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Royal Bride Demand</a> by LaQuette</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3EaLuT5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wyoming Double Jeopardy</a> by Juno Rushdan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/423XKOJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Any Trope but You</a> by Victoria Lavine</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3QVO4iI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Whisk Me Away</a> by Georgia Beers</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4lthpPN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Playing for Keeps</a> by Lainey Davis</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43AgUge" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Nanny is Off Limits</a> by QB Tyler</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3FJIuxI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Marriage Bargain with the Comte</a> by Parker J. Cole&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jgWZYj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Lady’s Guide to London</a> by Faye Delecour</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jhKICV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Duke and the Widow</a> by Christina Diane</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4iQFG0o" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Naked in Naknek</a> by Lolu Sinclair</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jxh9xp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fly by Night</a> by Kelly Cain</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3QTUZJn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Matchmaker</a> by Aisha Saeed</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4cbviOh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Anywhere You Go</a> by Bridget Morrissey</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/41SxW7V" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Once Upon You &amp; Me</a> by Timothy Janovsky</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4cjU130" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gold Coast Dilemma</a> by Nana Malone</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hSSTEF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Last Guy You Kiss</a> by Carla de Guzman</li></ul><br/><p><strong>MAY</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ccCYQd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Left of Forever</a> by Tarah deWitt</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4cnga0k" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Time Loops &amp; Meet Cutes</a> by Jackie Lau</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42fUApL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Singular Life of Aria Patel</a> By Samira Ahmed</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4cdl9QR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bad Publicity</a> by Bianca Gillam</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hYUNDA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Showgirl’s Rules for Falling in Love</a> by Alice Murphy</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/428zPfE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love in Focus</a> by Lyla Lee</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4iNVlgG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Simple Twist of Fate</a> by April Asher</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3E1uZZA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">His Dark Vendetta</a> by Katelyn Brehm</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3E5gO5N" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Digging Dr. Jones</a> by Olivia Jackson</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hYV1dU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">All Superheroes Need PR</a> by Elizabeth Stephens</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4lc1KnE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Romance Rivalry</a> by Susan Lee</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4iOYNHY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Slipstream</a> by Madge Maril</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3FN5SKt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Katheryn</a> by SM LaViolette</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XI2jeW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Along Came Amor</a> by Alexis Daria</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/41R6eZh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hunted through Italy</a> by Delaney Diamond</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4caUc0e" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Marked by Moonlight</a> by Sophie Jordan</li></ul><br/><p><strong>JUNE</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3FPaRup" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Worth Fighting For</a> by Jesse Q. Sutanto</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3E2Vuhc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Empire of Seduction</a> by Milla Finelli&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3DPOVi9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Never been Shipped</a> by Alicia Thompson</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hZ6ry9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Writing Mr. Right</a> by Alina Khawaja</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/423YCTv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Party of Three</a> by C. Travis Rice</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42dffuM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Plus Sized Player</a> by Danielle Allen</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3E2VBcC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">When Javi Dumped Mari</a> by Mia Sosa</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4iW9poK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cruel Summer</a> by Maisy Yates</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Y9DAQE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Rare Find</a> by Joanna Lowell</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3QUhQ7B" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gloves Off</a> by Stephanie Archer</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XFODB1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Savannah Royals</a> by Lindsey Barrett</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jgXQbt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">He’s to Die For</a> by Erin Dunn</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jhLBvf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sounds like Love</a> By Ashely Poston</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4l9TK6r" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Writing Mr. Wrong</a> by Kelley Armstrong</li></ul><br/><h2>Bits and Pieces</h2><ul><li>We’ve collected our 76 (and counting!) deep dives at <a href="http://fatedmates.net/book-club" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/bookclub</a>, making it a fine place to discover your next great romance read. </li><li>And if you’re the type of person who’s always believed you deserve a medal for your reading prowess, you can <a href="https://pagebound.co/quests/80c93f44-887b-43a2-a67b-8d73e2289611" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">visit our friends at Pagebound.co</a>, where you can join our Fated Mates Book Club Challenge. </li><li>Don’t forget to tell us what you think of us in via our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/survey" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">annual survey</a>. We’re dying to know what you think. </li><li>The <a href="https://arc.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Arc browser</a> is almost a religion for Eric, but you should feel comforted by the fact that a normie like Sarah likes, too. </li><li>We love these great indie bookstores: <a href="https://www.montgomeryandtaggert.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Montgomery &amp; Taggert</a> (in our new favorite small town, Chester CT) and <a href="https://heartleafbooks.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heartleaf Books</a> in Providence, RI. </li><li>Nearly all of these titles are available at Bookshop.org. We <a href="https://bookshop.org/lists/spring-2025-romance-releases" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">created a collection</a> to make it easy for you. </li><li>We shared the <a href="https://pagebound.co/lists/8002d341-404d-4967-99b3-4dff101dd977" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">full list</a> at Pagebound, as well. </li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Lotte James</strong>, author of <em>A Governess to Redeem Him</em>, available in print, ebook, audio, from <a href="https://amzn.to/4jdFxDO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-governess-to-redeem-him-lotte-r-james/1145819407?ean=9781335540065" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/a-governess-to-redeem-him?sId=b1e31e42-f229-4ed6-b2e4-df7206bb4810" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/au/book/a-governess-to-redeem-him/id6741169698" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781335540065" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Avon Books</strong>, publishers of Annie McQuaid's <em>Crash Landing, </em>available in print, ebook, audio, from <a href="https://amzn.to/42tssRa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/crash-landing-annie-mcquaid/1145948953?ean=9780063374867" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/crash-landing-38?sId=84aa1b5a-75f0-415d-a4b7-ec2f17426816" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/crash-landing/id6526484071" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063374867" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Stephanie Rose</strong>, author of <em>Just One Favor</em>, available in print, ebook, audio, or with <a href="https://amzn.to/43AaT39" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/3/30/0729-spring-2025-new-releases </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/3/30/0729-spring-2025-new-releases]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">c5395e9b-d2f1-411c-9652-e24753767a6a</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2025 00:15:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/bb8525e2-556c-4fa1-a215-af1e3d8cf77a/fated-mates-spring-2025-new-releases.mp3" length="112576559" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:56:44</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>33</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>33</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-bb8525e2-556c-4fa1-a215-af1e3d8cf77a.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S07.28: Everything We Know About Horses Comes From Romance</title><itunes:title>Everything We Know About Horses Comes From Romance</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This week, for some reason, we're talking about romance novels with horses in them! Do we know anything about horses? Of course not! Do we let that stop us? It never has before! We're talking about the ones where the horse dies, the ones where they do it on a horse, the ones where she's a horse whisperer, and the ones where she just really likes horses. Giddyup! </p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p>Take the Fated Mates Season 7 listener survey at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/survey" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/survey</a></p><h2>The Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4j455mV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Kingdom of Dreams</a> by Judith McNaught</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4c2iz0h" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Very Private Love</a> by Melinda Cross</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4iJ7RhH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">This Fierce Splendor</a> by Iris Johansen</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4c9VvNe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Secret</a> by Julie Garwood</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4l6Nvk8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Lyon</a> by Jude Deveraux</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4c7F7g0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Montana Sky</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/421VYMF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Irish Thoroughbred</a> by Nora Roberts</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Y4SkAj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Siren of Sussex</a> by Mimi Matthews</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4cecwpu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Trouble with Anna</a> by Rachel Griffiths</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4iMLIPE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cold-Hearted Rake</a> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3FQquBy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Legends Lake</a> by JoAnn Ross</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4lk18fZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">All Night Long with a Cowboy</a> by Caitlin Crews</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4j2KrmX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Wildest Ride</a> by Marcella Bell&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4c9Wxc4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Thorn in the Saddle</a> by Rebekah Weatherspoon</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4iOfEeg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sanctuary Island</a> by Lily Everett</li></ul><br/><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li>Who Did it Better… <a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2018/01/who-did-it-better-on-horse.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">on a Horse?</a> <a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2018/01/who-did-it-better-in-elevator.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">In an elevator?</a> <a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2017/10/who-did-it-better-in-library.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">In the library?</a> <a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2017/11/who-did-it-better-on-thanksgiving.html#more" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">At Thanksgiving?</a> And <a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2019/06/who-did-it-better-on-pool-table.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">on a pool table?&nbsp;</a></li><li>“It’s a fun book, there’s no sex in it,” is something Sarah said about Pride and Prejudice, which is just funny. In honor of the 20th Anniversary of the MacFayden/Knightly version of Pride and Prejudice, <a href="https://www.fandango.com/pride-and-prejudice-20th-anniversary-re-release-2025-239700/movie-overview" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">they are releasing it again in theaters the weekend of April 20th.</a>&nbsp;</li><li>Horses get stressed out on&nbsp; movie sets, and that’s why <a href="https://humanehollywood.org/guideline/horse-equine-and-livestock-guidelines/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">there are so many regulations</a> about how to care for them. There was <a href="https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/hbo-cancels-luck-horse-death-peta-dustin-hoffman-300201/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">an HBO show that got cancelled</a> because so many horses died! <a href="https://animals.howstuffworks.com/mammals/broken-leg-horse.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Why horses have to be put down when they break a leg</a>. </li><li>Based on some research, it was clear that Jen’s friend Bridget said that <a href="https://youtu.be/2OAF9_lUryk?si=N-Vv1dPur5M2XjuV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lou Diamond Phillips DID know how to ride a horse</a> in Young Guns. But, here’s <a href="https://youtu.be/E6e7igxM5cI?si=6Zfbdp7UqQhd4tDW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">an interview of him talking about a horse accident</a> on the set of Young Guns 2! <a href="https://screencrush.com/young-guns-then-and-now/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LDP, still hot, by the way!</a>&nbsp;</li><li>We did an episode on <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/6/9/s0240-a-kingdom-of-dreams" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Kingdom of Dreams</a> if you want to listen.&nbsp;</li><li>In <em>A Very Private Love</em>, the horse <a href="https://www.racingmuseum.org/hall-of-fame/horse/secretariat-va" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">is like Secretariat</a> or some shit like that.</li><li>The Budweiser Clydesdales are real horses, and I’m just gonna say, <a href="https://www.npr.org/2023/09/21/1200817549/anheuser-busch-budweiser-clydesdale-horses-tail-amputation" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">you come across some weird information about the world</a> when you write show notes.&nbsp;<a href="https://brooklyneagle.com/articles/2017/12/12/budweiser-clydesdale-team-makes-very-special-stop-in-brooklyn/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Here's an article</a> about them being at the bar near Sarah's house.</li><li>Fetlock are<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetlock" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> this</a>, not <a href="https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/yl8AAOSw55ZjRhpz/s-l1600.webp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.unboundpod.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The entire first season of Unbound Pod</a> with Adriana Herrera and Nikki Payne is about Western romance.</li></ul><br/><p>The Sponsors</p><ul><li><strong>Avery Maxwell</strong>, author of <em>Cross My Heart</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/4c63ZF0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>1001 Dark Nights</strong>, publishers of <em>Crowns and Courtships: A Royal Romance Collection</em>, with novellas by Claire Contreras, Jennifer L. Armentrout, Lexi Blake and Skye Warren, available in print or ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/3QMvJoc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Piper Rayne</strong>, authors of <em>Mr. Swoony</em>, available in print, ebook, audio, from <a href="https://amzn.to/41XKoSB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/mr-swoony-piper-rayne/1146727603" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/mr-swoony-1?srsltid=AfmBOopcD7uKJPBr_D1WHo_SiYadBa7K7aMfUQ8pPSxRoOWgiIWuHPDo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/mr-swoony/id6667993189" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9798887143743" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>. Stay tuned after the podcast for a sneak peek of the audiobook!</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/3/24/0728-horses </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, for some reason, we're talking about romance novels with horses in them! Do we know anything about horses? Of course not! Do we let that stop us? It never has before! We're talking about the ones where the horse dies, the ones where they do it on a horse, the ones where she's a horse whisperer, and the ones where she just really likes horses. Giddyup! </p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p>Take the Fated Mates Season 7 listener survey at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/survey" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/survey</a></p><h2>The Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4j455mV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Kingdom of Dreams</a> by Judith McNaught</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4c2iz0h" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Very Private Love</a> by Melinda Cross</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4iJ7RhH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">This Fierce Splendor</a> by Iris Johansen</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4c9VvNe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Secret</a> by Julie Garwood</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4l6Nvk8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Lyon</a> by Jude Deveraux</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4c7F7g0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Montana Sky</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/421VYMF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Irish Thoroughbred</a> by Nora Roberts</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Y4SkAj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Siren of Sussex</a> by Mimi Matthews</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4cecwpu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Trouble with Anna</a> by Rachel Griffiths</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4iMLIPE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cold-Hearted Rake</a> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3FQquBy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Legends Lake</a> by JoAnn Ross</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4lk18fZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">All Night Long with a Cowboy</a> by Caitlin Crews</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4j2KrmX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Wildest Ride</a> by Marcella Bell&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4c9Wxc4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Thorn in the Saddle</a> by Rebekah Weatherspoon</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4iOfEeg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sanctuary Island</a> by Lily Everett</li></ul><br/><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li>Who Did it Better… <a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2018/01/who-did-it-better-on-horse.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">on a Horse?</a> <a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2018/01/who-did-it-better-in-elevator.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">In an elevator?</a> <a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2017/10/who-did-it-better-in-library.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">In the library?</a> <a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2017/11/who-did-it-better-on-thanksgiving.html#more" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">At Thanksgiving?</a> And <a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2019/06/who-did-it-better-on-pool-table.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">on a pool table?&nbsp;</a></li><li>“It’s a fun book, there’s no sex in it,” is something Sarah said about Pride and Prejudice, which is just funny. In honor of the 20th Anniversary of the MacFayden/Knightly version of Pride and Prejudice, <a href="https://www.fandango.com/pride-and-prejudice-20th-anniversary-re-release-2025-239700/movie-overview" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">they are releasing it again in theaters the weekend of April 20th.</a>&nbsp;</li><li>Horses get stressed out on&nbsp; movie sets, and that’s why <a href="https://humanehollywood.org/guideline/horse-equine-and-livestock-guidelines/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">there are so many regulations</a> about how to care for them. There was <a href="https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/hbo-cancels-luck-horse-death-peta-dustin-hoffman-300201/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">an HBO show that got cancelled</a> because so many horses died! <a href="https://animals.howstuffworks.com/mammals/broken-leg-horse.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Why horses have to be put down when they break a leg</a>. </li><li>Based on some research, it was clear that Jen’s friend Bridget said that <a href="https://youtu.be/2OAF9_lUryk?si=N-Vv1dPur5M2XjuV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lou Diamond Phillips DID know how to ride a horse</a> in Young Guns. But, here’s <a href="https://youtu.be/E6e7igxM5cI?si=6Zfbdp7UqQhd4tDW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">an interview of him talking about a horse accident</a> on the set of Young Guns 2! <a href="https://screencrush.com/young-guns-then-and-now/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LDP, still hot, by the way!</a>&nbsp;</li><li>We did an episode on <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/6/9/s0240-a-kingdom-of-dreams" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Kingdom of Dreams</a> if you want to listen.&nbsp;</li><li>In <em>A Very Private Love</em>, the horse <a href="https://www.racingmuseum.org/hall-of-fame/horse/secretariat-va" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">is like Secretariat</a> or some shit like that.</li><li>The Budweiser Clydesdales are real horses, and I’m just gonna say, <a href="https://www.npr.org/2023/09/21/1200817549/anheuser-busch-budweiser-clydesdale-horses-tail-amputation" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">you come across some weird information about the world</a> when you write show notes.&nbsp;<a href="https://brooklyneagle.com/articles/2017/12/12/budweiser-clydesdale-team-makes-very-special-stop-in-brooklyn/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Here's an article</a> about them being at the bar near Sarah's house.</li><li>Fetlock are<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetlock" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> this</a>, not <a href="https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/yl8AAOSw55ZjRhpz/s-l1600.webp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.unboundpod.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The entire first season of Unbound Pod</a> with Adriana Herrera and Nikki Payne is about Western romance.</li></ul><br/><p>The Sponsors</p><ul><li><strong>Avery Maxwell</strong>, author of <em>Cross My Heart</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/4c63ZF0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>1001 Dark Nights</strong>, publishers of <em>Crowns and Courtships: A Royal Romance Collection</em>, with novellas by Claire Contreras, Jennifer L. Armentrout, Lexi Blake and Skye Warren, available in print or ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/3QMvJoc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Piper Rayne</strong>, authors of <em>Mr. Swoony</em>, available in print, ebook, audio, from <a href="https://amzn.to/41XKoSB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/mr-swoony-piper-rayne/1146727603" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/mr-swoony-1?srsltid=AfmBOopcD7uKJPBr_D1WHo_SiYadBa7K7aMfUQ8pPSxRoOWgiIWuHPDo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/mr-swoony/id6667993189" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9798887143743" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>. Stay tuned after the podcast for a sneak peek of the audiobook!</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/3/24/0728-horses </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/3/24/0728-horses]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">ba52f4e5-e0e8-4dd4-9a15-2b8cd55aedaf</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2025 16:11:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/994503cf-19fb-4b1c-a7db-c4ff40aae49d/fated-mates-horses.mp3" length="131873906" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>02:16:59</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>32</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>32</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-994503cf-19fb-4b1c-a7db-c4ff40aae49d.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S07.27: What I Did for a Duke: This Gentleman is Completely Composed of Revenge Molecules</title><itunes:title>What I Did for a Duke: This Gentleman is Completely Composed of Revenge Molecules</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It's deep dive day here at Fated Mates and we're reading an absolute banger of a historical -- Julie Anne Long's fifth Pennyroyal Green book, <em>What I Did for a Duke</em>. We talk about great romance kisses, about age gaps and how they operate in books, about house parties and art and sacrifice and how sexy it is when someone actually sees you for who you are. If you haven't read this one yet, do yourself a favor and do it right now. It's so great.</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><h2>The Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3FCGZRT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What I Did for a Duke</a> by Julie Anne Long </li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ielmWp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Pennyroyal Green Series</a></li></ul><br/><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>The main building you think of when you think of the New York Public Library with the lions is officially called <a href="https://www.nypl.org/about/locations/schwarzman/facts" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Stephen A. Schwarzman Building</a>. From what I can tell, it didn’t actually have anything to do with Andrew Carnegie, but he did donate $5 million to ensure that the New York Public Library <a href="https://www.nypl.org/events/exhibitions/celebrating-carnegies-gift-new-yorkers" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">had branch libraries in communities around the city</a>. He also <a href="https://library.columbia.edu/libraries/rbml/units/carnegie/andrew.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">donated a lot of money to other things</a>, that’s a fun thing billionaires used to do. Read more about doing <a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2017/10/who-did-it-better-in-library.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the forbidden kind of “romance stuff”</a> in the library. Jen talked to the<a href="https://www.nypl.org/books-more/recommendations/romance-2025/adults" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> New York Public Library's Best New Romance List</a> Committee Co-Chairs Kate Fais and Grace Loiacon <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/2/10/new-york-public-library-best-new-romance-list" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">back in February</a>.</li><li>In 2022, we recorded our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/1/17/s0420-the-break-in-case-of-emergency-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“Break in case of emergency” episode,</a> and it was in fact two sisters, Cait and Kara who requested the episode. PS: We are in emergency. Feel free to break those out&nbsp; now.</li><li>Julie Anne Long’s <em>The Beast Takes a Bride</em> was on our Best of 2024 episode. <em>What I Did for a Duke</em> is the 5th book in her Pennyroyal Green series.&nbsp;</li><li>“It must have been a lie,” is what Jen’s grandma Betty used to say if you lost your train of thought and couldn’t remember what you were saying.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/mn5crhTusSA?si=gEXbEeJYsPocmiFw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">This is a good speech from Crash Davis</a>, the pitcher played by Kevin Costner in the 1988 movie Bull Durham (also, Nuke says “what’s all that molecule stuff?” which is pretty funny considering the title of this episode).</li><li>The Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum in Boston had <a href="https://www.gardnermuseum.org/calendar/exhibition/women-myth-power" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a Titian exhibition back in 2022 called Women, Myth and Power</a>, and it seems like a thing Genevive would have liked it a lot. <a href="https://www.uffizi.it/en/artworks/venus-urbino-titian" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Titian’s Venus of Urbino</a> is currently on display at The Uffizi Galleries in Italy.&nbsp;</li><li>If you’re in <a href="https://www.astoriabookshop.com/events/1601520250331" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">New York on March 31st, head over to the Astoria Bookshop</a> to see Historical Romance authors TJ Alexander and Joanna Lowell in conversation, moderated by Sarah, in honor of <a href="https://glaad.org/tdov/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Transgender Day of Visibility</a>.</li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Avery Flynn</strong>, author of Airhead: A Hartigans Totally '80s Hot RomCom, available in ebook or <a href="https://amzn.to/3Y1dJKG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Lumi Gummies</strong>,. Go to <a href="https://lumigummies.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lumigummies.com</a> and use code FATEDMATES for 30% off your order.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/3/18/0727-what-i-did-for-a-duke-this-gentleman-is-completely-composed-of-revenge-molecules </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's deep dive day here at Fated Mates and we're reading an absolute banger of a historical -- Julie Anne Long's fifth Pennyroyal Green book, <em>What I Did for a Duke</em>. We talk about great romance kisses, about age gaps and how they operate in books, about house parties and art and sacrifice and how sexy it is when someone actually sees you for who you are. If you haven't read this one yet, do yourself a favor and do it right now. It's so great.</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><h2>The Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3FCGZRT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What I Did for a Duke</a> by Julie Anne Long </li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ielmWp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Pennyroyal Green Series</a></li></ul><br/><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>The main building you think of when you think of the New York Public Library with the lions is officially called <a href="https://www.nypl.org/about/locations/schwarzman/facts" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Stephen A. Schwarzman Building</a>. From what I can tell, it didn’t actually have anything to do with Andrew Carnegie, but he did donate $5 million to ensure that the New York Public Library <a href="https://www.nypl.org/events/exhibitions/celebrating-carnegies-gift-new-yorkers" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">had branch libraries in communities around the city</a>. He also <a href="https://library.columbia.edu/libraries/rbml/units/carnegie/andrew.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">donated a lot of money to other things</a>, that’s a fun thing billionaires used to do. Read more about doing <a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2017/10/who-did-it-better-in-library.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the forbidden kind of “romance stuff”</a> in the library. Jen talked to the<a href="https://www.nypl.org/books-more/recommendations/romance-2025/adults" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> New York Public Library's Best New Romance List</a> Committee Co-Chairs Kate Fais and Grace Loiacon <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/2/10/new-york-public-library-best-new-romance-list" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">back in February</a>.</li><li>In 2022, we recorded our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/1/17/s0420-the-break-in-case-of-emergency-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“Break in case of emergency” episode,</a> and it was in fact two sisters, Cait and Kara who requested the episode. PS: We are in emergency. Feel free to break those out&nbsp; now.</li><li>Julie Anne Long’s <em>The Beast Takes a Bride</em> was on our Best of 2024 episode. <em>What I Did for a Duke</em> is the 5th book in her Pennyroyal Green series.&nbsp;</li><li>“It must have been a lie,” is what Jen’s grandma Betty used to say if you lost your train of thought and couldn’t remember what you were saying.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/mn5crhTusSA?si=gEXbEeJYsPocmiFw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">This is a good speech from Crash Davis</a>, the pitcher played by Kevin Costner in the 1988 movie Bull Durham (also, Nuke says “what’s all that molecule stuff?” which is pretty funny considering the title of this episode).</li><li>The Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum in Boston had <a href="https://www.gardnermuseum.org/calendar/exhibition/women-myth-power" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a Titian exhibition back in 2022 called Women, Myth and Power</a>, and it seems like a thing Genevive would have liked it a lot. <a href="https://www.uffizi.it/en/artworks/venus-urbino-titian" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Titian’s Venus of Urbino</a> is currently on display at The Uffizi Galleries in Italy.&nbsp;</li><li>If you’re in <a href="https://www.astoriabookshop.com/events/1601520250331" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">New York on March 31st, head over to the Astoria Bookshop</a> to see Historical Romance authors TJ Alexander and Joanna Lowell in conversation, moderated by Sarah, in honor of <a href="https://glaad.org/tdov/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Transgender Day of Visibility</a>.</li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Avery Flynn</strong>, author of Airhead: A Hartigans Totally '80s Hot RomCom, available in ebook or <a href="https://amzn.to/3Y1dJKG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Lumi Gummies</strong>,. Go to <a href="https://lumigummies.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lumigummies.com</a> and use code FATEDMATES for 30% off your order.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/3/18/0727-what-i-did-for-a-duke-this-gentleman-is-completely-composed-of-revenge-molecules </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/3/18/0727-what-i-did-for-a-duke-this-gentleman-is-completely-composed-of-revenge-molecules]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">4c9309dd-61d0-4f5b-8e49-94d9c0650c01</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2025 23:30:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/16842ced-0279-4792-8c30-0ef81ca7863a/fated-mates-what-i-did-for-a-duke.mp3" length="83866602" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:26:56</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>31</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>31</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-16842ced-0279-4792-8c30-0ef81ca7863a.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S07.26: Romance Novels With a Ticking Clock</title><itunes:title>Romance Novels With a Ticking Clock</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This one's for those of you who've been asking us to talk more about craft on the podcast! We're talking romances with ticking clocks and clear time frames, about how this impacts conflict and makes books more breathless, and of course about the books that deploy this strategy perfectly. Inside, you'll find road trips and adventures, vacation romances and romantic suspense, house parties and that classic romance chestnut: "I have 30 days to get pregnant." It's going to be fun.</p><p>But first, we're talking to Amanda Litman, <a href="https://runforsomething.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">founder of Run For Something</a>, an organization filling the back bench of the Democratic party, helping people run for local office and make sure that we're holding the line at all levels of government. Tell us if you are running for school board, and we'll proudly donate to your campaign!</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p>Next week, we're reading Julie Anne Long's <em>What I Did For a Duke</em>, available in print, ebook, and audio at <a href="https://amzn.to/3WuoeWi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/what-i-did-for-a-duke-julie-anne-long/1102006654" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/what-i-did-for-a-duke-pennyroyal-green-series" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/what-i-did-for-a-duke/id400622054" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780061885686" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>. </p><h2>The Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4bE3PUY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">It Had to Be You</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/41GEHbA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heaven, Texas</a> by Susan Elizabeth Phillips</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3DnHPRN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hot Touch</a> by Deborah Smith</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ifCmLL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Whiteout </a>by Adriana Anders</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3DxIeRA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Waking up with the Duke</a> by Lorraine Heath</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43zzpB9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Perfect</a> by Judith McNaught</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43BaQDX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fiasco</a> by Constance Fay</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hlwIXd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">One Good Earl Deserves a Lover</a> by Sarah MacLean</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hlnvy8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Her Night with the Duke</a> by Diana Quincy</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3DH4Lvb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Along Came Amor</a> by Alexis Daria</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3DytZff" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Curvy Girl Summer</a> by Danielle Allen</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Dwa3cT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sexy in Stilettos</a> by Nana Malone</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4bDJYFs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fan Service</a> by Rosie Danan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3QXb6Wo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Again the Magic</a> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3FfCn41" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">One Last Night</a> by Lauren Ford</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3FfCrAN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tycoon</a> by Joanna Shupe</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4bH1Pv2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Into the Woods</a> by Jenny Holiday</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Dw30B2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">One Stormy Night</a> by Jules Bennett</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3QWh35V" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sins of a Wicked Duke</a> by Sophie Jordan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3DkZ8D0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">To Catch a Raven</a> by Beverly Jenkins</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/41SzkHw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pleasure of a Dark Prince</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/3DDPr2o" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lothaire</a> by Kresley Cole</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3FfCBYV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Something Wilder</a> by Christina Lauren</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/41Db375" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Luck of the Draw</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/3Ftmyq9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Other Side of Disappearing</a> by Kate Clayborn</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ihn9K6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dionysus in Wisconsin</a> by E.H. Lupton</li></ul><br/><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li>Join <a href="https://astoriabookshop.com/events/1601520250331" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">TJ Alexander and Joanna Lowell in a conversation at Astoria Bookshop in Queens, NY</a> on March 31st for a conversation about trans rep in romance, moderated by Sarah. </li><li>Learn more about <a href="https://runforsomething.net/run/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Run for Something</a> and <a href="https://wherecanirun.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What You Can Run For</a> in 2026 (don't forget to tell us you're running!), and preorder Amanda Litman's book, <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781638931928" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>When We're in Charge: The Next Generation’s Guide to Leadership</em></a> wherever you get your books.</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/aAQZPBwz2CI?si=rU6oybJX5y_s5CH2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Four Minutes</a> is a very shallow cut, actually.</li><li>This is the good stuff: <a href="https://www.radiohalloffame.com/casey-kasem" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Casey Kasem</a>’s Top 40 and <a href="https://youtu.be/lcb8Wyt-aPA?si=TH3kDbKGQYLmxtbX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Friday Night Videos</a>, <a href="https://www.bose.com/stories/what-is-a-boombox?srsltid=AfmBOorw8-Rx77D6hUTvfj2mbVg9X5YPg4muW6tZi-QAax9ohScnOXR8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">boom boxes</a>, and <a href="https://seatup.com/blog/history-of-cable/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">cable TV</a>. Also, <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/film/2025/mar/02/the-sound-of-music-movie-1965" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Sound of Music</a> on has an actual running time of 2 hours and 52 minutes and an “on-TV- with-commercials" running time of 200 hours and 52 minutes. The best scene is <a href="https://youtu.be/U9v85Bc1fR0?si=AioSSEPSpbbqrCyU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the curtains one</a>, the <a href="https://youtu.be/qUfWRBGQkz0?si=lqvqpsLhbBZ2SmEk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">dancing one</a>, or the <a href="https://youtu.be/X9e9CVtFCwU?si=isN6hjw2AGW7Xv7U" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tearing down the flag one</a>.</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/F-Vz67p5kLQ?si=91ihQ4X1ALxR5FZA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">That leg lamp</a> is a reference to the movie A Christmas Story.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://liberalarts.oregonstate.edu/wlf/what-conflict" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Conflict defined</a>. Or, next time Sarah gives it in October 2025, attend <a href="https://www.sarahmaclean.net/writing-romance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">her conflict workshop</a>. Speaking of tension, how about that moment in Toy Story 3 when they are headed to the incinerator.&nbsp;</li><li>We’ve talked about <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/7/18/s0348-is-roy-kent-a-romance-hero-the-ted-lasso-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ted Lasso season 1</a> and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/11/12/s0510-the-diamond-dogs-book-club" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">season 2</a>. Sarah wasn’t the only one <a href="https://www.tomsguide.com/opinion/ted-lasso-season-3-is-my-biggest-tv-show-disappointment-in-years-heres-why" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">disappointed with season 3</a>, Jen felt the ship going down and bailed right out of it.&nbsp;</li><li>In the book <em>Techniques of a Selling Writer</em>, <a href="https://www.septembercfawkes.com/2021/09/scene-structure-according-to-dwight-v.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dwight Swain described his scene and sequel theory</a>.</li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>1001 Dark Nights</strong>, publishers of <a href="https://amzn.to/41WXEIi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Office Sparks: A Workplace Romance Collection</em></a>, with novellas by C.D. Reiss, K. Bromberg, Laurelin Paige, and Heather Graham, available in ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/41WXEIi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Lumi Labs</strong>, creators of Lumi Gummies. Go to <a href="https://lumigummies.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lumigummies.com</a> and use code FATEDMATES for 30% off your order.</li><li><strong>Lucy Score</strong>, author of <em>Story of My Life</em>, available in print, ebook, audio, from <a href="https://amzn.to/3XiTxnv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/story-of-my-life-lucy-score/1145987770?ean=9781464246470" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This one's for those of you who've been asking us to talk more about craft on the podcast! We're talking romances with ticking clocks and clear time frames, about how this impacts conflict and makes books more breathless, and of course about the books that deploy this strategy perfectly. Inside, you'll find road trips and adventures, vacation romances and romantic suspense, house parties and that classic romance chestnut: "I have 30 days to get pregnant." It's going to be fun.</p><p>But first, we're talking to Amanda Litman, <a href="https://runforsomething.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">founder of Run For Something</a>, an organization filling the back bench of the Democratic party, helping people run for local office and make sure that we're holding the line at all levels of government. Tell us if you are running for school board, and we'll proudly donate to your campaign!</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p>Next week, we're reading Julie Anne Long's <em>What I Did For a Duke</em>, available in print, ebook, and audio at <a href="https://amzn.to/3WuoeWi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/what-i-did-for-a-duke-julie-anne-long/1102006654" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/what-i-did-for-a-duke-pennyroyal-green-series" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/what-i-did-for-a-duke/id400622054" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780061885686" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>. </p><h2>The Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4bE3PUY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">It Had to Be You</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/41GEHbA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heaven, Texas</a> by Susan Elizabeth Phillips</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3DnHPRN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hot Touch</a> by Deborah Smith</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ifCmLL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Whiteout </a>by Adriana Anders</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3DxIeRA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Waking up with the Duke</a> by Lorraine Heath</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43zzpB9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Perfect</a> by Judith McNaught</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43BaQDX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fiasco</a> by Constance Fay</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hlwIXd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">One Good Earl Deserves a Lover</a> by Sarah MacLean</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hlnvy8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Her Night with the Duke</a> by Diana Quincy</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3DH4Lvb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Along Came Amor</a> by Alexis Daria</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3DytZff" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Curvy Girl Summer</a> by Danielle Allen</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Dwa3cT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sexy in Stilettos</a> by Nana Malone</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4bDJYFs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fan Service</a> by Rosie Danan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3QXb6Wo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Again the Magic</a> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3FfCn41" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">One Last Night</a> by Lauren Ford</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3FfCrAN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tycoon</a> by Joanna Shupe</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4bH1Pv2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Into the Woods</a> by Jenny Holiday</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Dw30B2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">One Stormy Night</a> by Jules Bennett</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3QWh35V" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sins of a Wicked Duke</a> by Sophie Jordan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3DkZ8D0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">To Catch a Raven</a> by Beverly Jenkins</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/41SzkHw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pleasure of a Dark Prince</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/3DDPr2o" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lothaire</a> by Kresley Cole</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3FfCBYV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Something Wilder</a> by Christina Lauren</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/41Db375" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Luck of the Draw</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/3Ftmyq9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Other Side of Disappearing</a> by Kate Clayborn</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ihn9K6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dionysus in Wisconsin</a> by E.H. Lupton</li></ul><br/><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li>Join <a href="https://astoriabookshop.com/events/1601520250331" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">TJ Alexander and Joanna Lowell in a conversation at Astoria Bookshop in Queens, NY</a> on March 31st for a conversation about trans rep in romance, moderated by Sarah. </li><li>Learn more about <a href="https://runforsomething.net/run/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Run for Something</a> and <a href="https://wherecanirun.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What You Can Run For</a> in 2026 (don't forget to tell us you're running!), and preorder Amanda Litman's book, <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781638931928" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>When We're in Charge: The Next Generation’s Guide to Leadership</em></a> wherever you get your books.</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/aAQZPBwz2CI?si=rU6oybJX5y_s5CH2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Four Minutes</a> is a very shallow cut, actually.</li><li>This is the good stuff: <a href="https://www.radiohalloffame.com/casey-kasem" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Casey Kasem</a>’s Top 40 and <a href="https://youtu.be/lcb8Wyt-aPA?si=TH3kDbKGQYLmxtbX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Friday Night Videos</a>, <a href="https://www.bose.com/stories/what-is-a-boombox?srsltid=AfmBOorw8-Rx77D6hUTvfj2mbVg9X5YPg4muW6tZi-QAax9ohScnOXR8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">boom boxes</a>, and <a href="https://seatup.com/blog/history-of-cable/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">cable TV</a>. Also, <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/film/2025/mar/02/the-sound-of-music-movie-1965" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Sound of Music</a> on has an actual running time of 2 hours and 52 minutes and an “on-TV- with-commercials" running time of 200 hours and 52 minutes. The best scene is <a href="https://youtu.be/U9v85Bc1fR0?si=AioSSEPSpbbqrCyU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the curtains one</a>, the <a href="https://youtu.be/qUfWRBGQkz0?si=lqvqpsLhbBZ2SmEk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">dancing one</a>, or the <a href="https://youtu.be/X9e9CVtFCwU?si=isN6hjw2AGW7Xv7U" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tearing down the flag one</a>.</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/F-Vz67p5kLQ?si=91ihQ4X1ALxR5FZA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">That leg lamp</a> is a reference to the movie A Christmas Story.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://liberalarts.oregonstate.edu/wlf/what-conflict" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Conflict defined</a>. Or, next time Sarah gives it in October 2025, attend <a href="https://www.sarahmaclean.net/writing-romance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">her conflict workshop</a>. Speaking of tension, how about that moment in Toy Story 3 when they are headed to the incinerator.&nbsp;</li><li>We’ve talked about <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/7/18/s0348-is-roy-kent-a-romance-hero-the-ted-lasso-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ted Lasso season 1</a> and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/11/12/s0510-the-diamond-dogs-book-club" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">season 2</a>. Sarah wasn’t the only one <a href="https://www.tomsguide.com/opinion/ted-lasso-season-3-is-my-biggest-tv-show-disappointment-in-years-heres-why" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">disappointed with season 3</a>, Jen felt the ship going down and bailed right out of it.&nbsp;</li><li>In the book <em>Techniques of a Selling Writer</em>, <a href="https://www.septembercfawkes.com/2021/09/scene-structure-according-to-dwight-v.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dwight Swain described his scene and sequel theory</a>.</li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>1001 Dark Nights</strong>, publishers of <a href="https://amzn.to/41WXEIi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Office Sparks: A Workplace Romance Collection</em></a>, with novellas by C.D. Reiss, K. Bromberg, Laurelin Paige, and Heather Graham, available in ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/41WXEIi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Lumi Labs</strong>, creators of Lumi Gummies. Go to <a href="https://lumigummies.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lumigummies.com</a> and use code FATEDMATES for 30% off your order.</li><li><strong>Lucy Score</strong>, author of <em>Story of My Life</em>, available in print, ebook, audio, from <a href="https://amzn.to/3XiTxnv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/story-of-my-life-lucy-score/1145987770?ean=9781464246470" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/lu/book/story-of-my-life/id6526475639" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781728297057" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>TJ Alexander</strong>, author of <em>A Gentleman's Gentleman</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook, at <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-gentlemans-gentleman-tj-alexander/1145791083?ean=9780593686201" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/a-gentleman-s-gentleman-18" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/a-gentlemans-gentleman/id6504264731" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/3FjEKCC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780593686201" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/3/10/0726-romance-novels-with-a-ticking-clock </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/3/10/0726-romance-novels-with-a-ticking-clock]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">7809a084-4c34-4b84-965e-95e57ff4d127</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2025 00:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/924fe03a-abcc-4c4d-a3ec-ddea374d4566/fated-mates-ticking-clock.mp3" length="101077380" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:45:17</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>30</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>30</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-924fe03a-abcc-4c4d-a3ec-ddea374d4566.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S07.25: Sci-Fi Romance: There&apos;s No Book Banning in Space</title><itunes:title>Sci-Fi Romance: There&apos;s No Book Banning in Space</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Maybe you're rooting for the asteroid, but you gotta have a plan! To help, this week, we're keeping track of what romance is looking like off-planet--it's <strong>Romance! In! Space!</strong> (Part 2, but the first episode we did was six years ago, so we figured it's time.) Headphones in, loves, this one covers space scavengers, aliens, anatomy, crash landings, abductions, talking lions and people in Space Army (what happens in Space Army stays there, unless it's here). </p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p>Our next read along is Julie Anne Long's <em>What I Did For a Duke</em>, available in print, ebook, and audio at <a href="https://amzn.to/3WuoeWi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/what-i-did-for-a-duke-julie-anne-long/1102006654" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/what-i-did-for-a-duke-pennyroyal-green-series" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/what-i-did-for-a-duke/id400622054" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780061885686" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>. </p><h2>The Books </h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3EYbVeN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fiasco</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/4il45dB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chaos</a> by Constance Fay</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/41CcDqY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Full Speed to a Crash Landing</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/3F2wiI0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">How to Steal a Galaxy</a> by Beth Revis&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3DhyRoX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Space Deputy</a> by Jenny Schwartz</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4i1eiMB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">I Got Abducted By Aliens and Now I’m Trapped in a Rom-Com</a> by Kimberly Lemming</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/41j7McV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Winter’s Orbit</a> by Everina Maxwell</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4imoPlq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heart Song</a> by Heather Guerre</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4kxk6PM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ruling Sikthand</a>&nbsp; by Victoria Aveline</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hZC5fY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stranded</a> by Heather Fox&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43cV3v4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Raw Desires</a> by Cynthia Sax</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/41DQloQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cathian</a> by Laurann Dohner</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43i4rgM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Space Army Recruits</a> by Kinley Grey</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ilgFtp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Murderbot Diaries</a> by Martha Wells</li></ul><br/><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li>Bad news: <a href="https://skyandtelescope.org/astronomy-news/asteroid-wont-hit-earth-but-might-hit-moon-a-potential-science-bonanza/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the asteroid can’t save us</a>, so we’ll just have to <a href="https://www.aclu.org/news/civil-liberties/state-and-local-governments-are-saying-no-to-trumps-radical-agenda" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">save ourselves</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>You can <a href="https://jennifers-newsletter-9cb7e2.beehiiv.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">read Jen’s newsletter here</a>, she’ll be writing about the grand gesture in <a href="https://amzn.to/3EYbVeN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fiasco</a> next.</li><li>We did <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/10/145-romance-in-space-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">space romance</a> back in season 1, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/11/8/s0509-hold-by-claire-kent" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Claire Kent’s Hold</a> back in season 5. And speaking of Claire Kent, she’s been <a href="https://amzn.to/3F0ITv3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">writing dystopian books lately</a> that you might want to check out.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.westernstandard.news/news/trump-dhs-sec-straddles-border-while-declaring-canada-the-51st-state/62697" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Insane colonialist fantasies</a> are <a href="https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/03/climate-change-disruption-trump-greenland-fossil-fuels-development-risks-insurance/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">running rampant</a> in the USA right now, so we don’t really need them in our romance, now do we.&nbsp;</li><li>You’re <a href="https://youtu.be/oweYva96e2g?si=NYQWsG3dhHPJqWxT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a virgin who can’t drive.</a></li><li>All about the legendary imprint <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellora%27s_Cave" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ellora’s Cave</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Our next read along is <a href="https://amzn.to/41BbZdn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What I Did for a Duke</a> by Julie Anne Long.</li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li>Chandra Wicke, creator of <em>The Happily Ever After Sociey: A Book About Romance Novels. </em><a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/chandrawicke/the-happily-ever-after-society-a-book-about-romance-novels" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Back the Kickstarter.</a></li><li>Yvette de Oro, author of <em>Mine to Match</em>, available in print or ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/4btxobL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>. Enter to win <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/DF-r5fQh5Lz/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Mine to Match giveaway on Yvette’s Instagram</a> by making a donation to your local foodbank — winners will win a copy of her book and a matching gift to the foodbank of their choice!</li><li>Amy Spalding, author of <em>On Her Terms, </em>available in print, ebook, audio, from <a href="https://amzn.to/4i21wgN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/on-her-terms-amy-spalding/1145649357?ean=9781496751157" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/on-her-terms/id6503632464" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781496751157" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li>Elle Kennedy, author of <em>The Charlie Method</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/3D6WX5T" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/3/1/0725-sci-fi-romance-theres-no-book-banning-in-space </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe you're rooting for the asteroid, but you gotta have a plan! To help, this week, we're keeping track of what romance is looking like off-planet--it's <strong>Romance! In! Space!</strong> (Part 2, but the first episode we did was six years ago, so we figured it's time.) Headphones in, loves, this one covers space scavengers, aliens, anatomy, crash landings, abductions, talking lions and people in Space Army (what happens in Space Army stays there, unless it's here). </p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p>Our next read along is Julie Anne Long's <em>What I Did For a Duke</em>, available in print, ebook, and audio at <a href="https://amzn.to/3WuoeWi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/what-i-did-for-a-duke-julie-anne-long/1102006654" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/what-i-did-for-a-duke-pennyroyal-green-series" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/what-i-did-for-a-duke/id400622054" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780061885686" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>. </p><h2>The Books </h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3EYbVeN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fiasco</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/4il45dB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chaos</a> by Constance Fay</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/41CcDqY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Full Speed to a Crash Landing</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/3F2wiI0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">How to Steal a Galaxy</a> by Beth Revis&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3DhyRoX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Space Deputy</a> by Jenny Schwartz</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4i1eiMB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">I Got Abducted By Aliens and Now I’m Trapped in a Rom-Com</a> by Kimberly Lemming</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/41j7McV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Winter’s Orbit</a> by Everina Maxwell</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4imoPlq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heart Song</a> by Heather Guerre</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4kxk6PM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ruling Sikthand</a>&nbsp; by Victoria Aveline</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hZC5fY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stranded</a> by Heather Fox&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43cV3v4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Raw Desires</a> by Cynthia Sax</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/41DQloQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cathian</a> by Laurann Dohner</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/43i4rgM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Space Army Recruits</a> by Kinley Grey</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ilgFtp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Murderbot Diaries</a> by Martha Wells</li></ul><br/><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li>Bad news: <a href="https://skyandtelescope.org/astronomy-news/asteroid-wont-hit-earth-but-might-hit-moon-a-potential-science-bonanza/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the asteroid can’t save us</a>, so we’ll just have to <a href="https://www.aclu.org/news/civil-liberties/state-and-local-governments-are-saying-no-to-trumps-radical-agenda" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">save ourselves</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>You can <a href="https://jennifers-newsletter-9cb7e2.beehiiv.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">read Jen’s newsletter here</a>, she’ll be writing about the grand gesture in <a href="https://amzn.to/3EYbVeN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fiasco</a> next.</li><li>We did <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/10/145-romance-in-space-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">space romance</a> back in season 1, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/11/8/s0509-hold-by-claire-kent" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Claire Kent’s Hold</a> back in season 5. And speaking of Claire Kent, she’s been <a href="https://amzn.to/3F0ITv3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">writing dystopian books lately</a> that you might want to check out.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.westernstandard.news/news/trump-dhs-sec-straddles-border-while-declaring-canada-the-51st-state/62697" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Insane colonialist fantasies</a> are <a href="https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/03/climate-change-disruption-trump-greenland-fossil-fuels-development-risks-insurance/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">running rampant</a> in the USA right now, so we don’t really need them in our romance, now do we.&nbsp;</li><li>You’re <a href="https://youtu.be/oweYva96e2g?si=NYQWsG3dhHPJqWxT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a virgin who can’t drive.</a></li><li>All about the legendary imprint <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellora%27s_Cave" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ellora’s Cave</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Our next read along is <a href="https://amzn.to/41BbZdn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What I Did for a Duke</a> by Julie Anne Long.</li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li>Chandra Wicke, creator of <em>The Happily Ever After Sociey: A Book About Romance Novels. </em><a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/chandrawicke/the-happily-ever-after-society-a-book-about-romance-novels" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Back the Kickstarter.</a></li><li>Yvette de Oro, author of <em>Mine to Match</em>, available in print or ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/4btxobL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>. Enter to win <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/DF-r5fQh5Lz/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Mine to Match giveaway on Yvette’s Instagram</a> by making a donation to your local foodbank — winners will win a copy of her book and a matching gift to the foodbank of their choice!</li><li>Amy Spalding, author of <em>On Her Terms, </em>available in print, ebook, audio, from <a href="https://amzn.to/4i21wgN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/on-her-terms-amy-spalding/1145649357?ean=9781496751157" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/on-her-terms/id6503632464" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781496751157" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li>Elle Kennedy, author of <em>The Charlie Method</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/3D6WX5T" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/3/1/0725-sci-fi-romance-theres-no-book-banning-in-space </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/3/1/0725-sci-fi-romance-theres-no-book-banning-in-space]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">25eb59e3-b8ab-4795-b6b6-e2af89fc4a3b</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2025 22:30:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/65c4dc57-6892-446d-97cd-22cc59481171/fated-mates-scifi-romance.mp3" length="95232119" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:39:12</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>29</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>29</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-65c4dc57-6892-446d-97cd-22cc59481171.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S07.24: He&apos;s *NOT* a Billionaire</title><itunes:title>He&apos;s *NOT* a Billionaire</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It's been the longest month of our lives and as self-care, we're not thinking about billionaires this week (or at least for the duration of this episode). Instead, we're talking about those men who are rich in other ways, in throwing a punch, chasing a tornado, camping, playing an instrument, you get it. We've got a bunch of books we love and not a ten-figure bank account to be seen!</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p><a href="https://read.macmillan.com/promo/mybigfatfakemarriageaudiosweeps" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Enter the Macmillan Audio sweepstakes</a> to win one of five free copies of the audiobook of Charlotte Stein's <em>My Big Fat Fake Marriage</em>.</p><p>Our next read along is Julie Anne Long's <em>What I Did For a Duke</em>, available in print, ebook, and audio at <a href="https://amzn.to/3WuoeWi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/what-i-did-for-a-duke-julie-anne-long/1102006654" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/what-i-did-for-a-duke-pennyroyal-green-series" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/what-i-did-for-a-duke/id400622054" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780061885686" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</p><h2>The Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hQCYqV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Forbidden</a> by Beverly Jenkins</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gXVtZB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Thirsty</a> by Mia Hopkins&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3D62DwO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stealing the Rogue’s Heart</a> by Erica Monroe</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/41kT3hU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Substitute Wife for the Prizefighter</a> by Alice Coldbreath</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ibga5a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">In the Morning Sun</a> by Lena Hart</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4kbA5mi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">An Unseen Attraction</a> by KJ Charles</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4idw2nw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Whirlwind</a> by Kayla Gross</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3EOMD2W" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gone Too Deep</a> by Katie Ruggle</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4kfuew9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Take Me Home Tonight</a> by Erika Kelly</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3CSsDMg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Into the Woods</a> by Jenny Holiday</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/436omPV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Drilled</a> by Brill Harper</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3CUHUw3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sinner</a> (was Sinful Temptation) by London Hale&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ifLX4L" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pardon my Frenchie</a> by Farrah Rochon</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ie30UV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sleeping With the Frenemy</a> by Natalie Caña</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/41uAPLS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Common Ground</a> by Melanie Greene</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4i9CGeH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Demon from the Dark</a> by Kresley Cole</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3D1Lvs9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Morning Glory Milking Farm</a> by CM Nascosta</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Xhbkvj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rock and Soul</a> by Lauren Sattersby</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3QziRlq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Losing Sight</a> by Tati Richardson</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3D74qBO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Unloved</a> by Payton Corinne</li></ul><br/><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li>There have always been rich people in romance, but we think it could be argued that <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/9/1/s0303-fifty-shades-of-grey-by-el-james" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Christian Grey and 50 Shades</a> invented the billionaire romance genre.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://jennifers-newsletter-9cb7e2.beehiiv.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen started writing a newsletter</a>, leaning back into the romance reader “and critic” part of the job.&nbsp; You can check it out here. It’s free and who knows how long it will last.&nbsp;</li><li>Bobby Tom is the hero of <a href="https://amzn.to/4igOGLz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heaven, Texas by Susan Elizabeth Phillips.</a>&nbsp;</li><li>If Jen refers to something being “a basic” please know she is referring to <a href="https://youtu.be/clTCMhEEzqk?si=IaKJwLV_9qOFBZvA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a line from Strictly Ballroom</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Maybe you want to learn about <a href="https://landmarksinlondonhistory.wordpress.com/2017/12/06/st-giles-rookery-the-lost-london-landmark/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a rookery</a>.&nbsp;&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://jimcrowmuseum.ferris.edu/question/2010/may.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Anti-miscegnation laws</a> in the United States prevented people from marrying someone of a different race.</li><li><a href="https://go.discovery.com/show/storm-chasers-discovery" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Storm chasing</a> seems honestly like a very dangerous activity. There is no evidence that I could find that a tornado can rip your clothes right off your body, but Kayla Grosse <a href="https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/has-anyone-survived-a-tornado-by-laying-in-a-ditch.2316775/page-2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">probably read this webpage for research.</a> (lol)</li><li><a href="https://ldaamerica.org/what-is-dyscalculia/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dyscalculia</a> is a learning disability rooted in math and number.</li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Piper Rayne</strong>, authors of <em>Mr. Heartbreaker</em>, available in print, ebook, audio, from <a href="https://amzn.to/436WJGq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/mr-heartbreaker-piper-rayne/1145416844?ean=9798887143491" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/mr-heartbreaker-4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/mr-heartbreaker/id6475649594" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9798887143491" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>. </li><li><strong>Megan Frampton</strong>, author of <em>The Devil's Charm</em>, available in print, ebook, audio, from <a href="https://amzn.to/4i9fVIp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-devils-charm-megan-frampton/1145657441?ean=9780063389212" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-devil-s-charm-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-devils-charm/id6503873311" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063389205" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>. </li><li><strong>1001 Dark Nights</strong>, publishers of <em>Riches and Romance: A Billionaire Romance Anthology </em>from Dylan Allen, Kendall Ryan, Lexi Blake and Melissa Foster, available with <a href="https://amzn.to/3D3rhhH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>. </li><li><strong>Charlotte Stein</strong>, author of <em>My Big Fat Fake Marriage</em>, read by Imogen Wilde, available from <a href="https://amzn.to/4khchNL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Audible</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/audiobook/my-big-fat-fake-marriage-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, Apple Books, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/my-big-fat-fake-marriage-charlotte-stein/1145317611?ean=2940192499023" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://libro.fm/audiobooks/9781250386892-my-big-fat-fake-marriage?bookstore=bookshoporg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Libro.fm</a>, or wherever you get your audiobooks. <a href="https://read.macmillan.com/promo/mybigfatfakemarriageaudiosweeps" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Enter the Macmillan Audio sweepstakes</strong></a><strong> to win one of five free copies of the audiobook.</strong>  </li><li><strong>Lucy Score</strong>, author of <em>Story of My Life</em>, available in print, ebook, audio, from <a href="https://amzn.to/3XiTxnv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/story-of-my-life-lucy-score/1145987770?ean=9781464246470" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/lu/book/story-of-my-life/id6526475639" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781728297057" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>. </li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's been the longest month of our lives and as self-care, we're not thinking about billionaires this week (or at least for the duration of this episode). Instead, we're talking about those men who are rich in other ways, in throwing a punch, chasing a tornado, camping, playing an instrument, you get it. We've got a bunch of books we love and not a ten-figure bank account to be seen!</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p><a href="https://read.macmillan.com/promo/mybigfatfakemarriageaudiosweeps" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Enter the Macmillan Audio sweepstakes</a> to win one of five free copies of the audiobook of Charlotte Stein's <em>My Big Fat Fake Marriage</em>.</p><p>Our next read along is Julie Anne Long's <em>What I Did For a Duke</em>, available in print, ebook, and audio at <a href="https://amzn.to/3WuoeWi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/what-i-did-for-a-duke-julie-anne-long/1102006654" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/what-i-did-for-a-duke-pennyroyal-green-series" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/what-i-did-for-a-duke/id400622054" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780061885686" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</p><h2>The Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hQCYqV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Forbidden</a> by Beverly Jenkins</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gXVtZB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Thirsty</a> by Mia Hopkins&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3D62DwO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stealing the Rogue’s Heart</a> by Erica Monroe</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/41kT3hU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Substitute Wife for the Prizefighter</a> by Alice Coldbreath</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ibga5a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">In the Morning Sun</a> by Lena Hart</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4kbA5mi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">An Unseen Attraction</a> by KJ Charles</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4idw2nw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Whirlwind</a> by Kayla Gross</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3EOMD2W" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gone Too Deep</a> by Katie Ruggle</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4kfuew9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Take Me Home Tonight</a> by Erika Kelly</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3CSsDMg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Into the Woods</a> by Jenny Holiday</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/436omPV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Drilled</a> by Brill Harper</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3CUHUw3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sinner</a> (was Sinful Temptation) by London Hale&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ifLX4L" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pardon my Frenchie</a> by Farrah Rochon</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ie30UV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sleeping With the Frenemy</a> by Natalie Caña</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/41uAPLS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Common Ground</a> by Melanie Greene</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4i9CGeH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Demon from the Dark</a> by Kresley Cole</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3D1Lvs9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Morning Glory Milking Farm</a> by CM Nascosta</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Xhbkvj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rock and Soul</a> by Lauren Sattersby</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3QziRlq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Losing Sight</a> by Tati Richardson</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3D74qBO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Unloved</a> by Payton Corinne</li></ul><br/><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li>There have always been rich people in romance, but we think it could be argued that <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/9/1/s0303-fifty-shades-of-grey-by-el-james" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Christian Grey and 50 Shades</a> invented the billionaire romance genre.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://jennifers-newsletter-9cb7e2.beehiiv.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen started writing a newsletter</a>, leaning back into the romance reader “and critic” part of the job.&nbsp; You can check it out here. It’s free and who knows how long it will last.&nbsp;</li><li>Bobby Tom is the hero of <a href="https://amzn.to/4igOGLz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heaven, Texas by Susan Elizabeth Phillips.</a>&nbsp;</li><li>If Jen refers to something being “a basic” please know she is referring to <a href="https://youtu.be/clTCMhEEzqk?si=IaKJwLV_9qOFBZvA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a line from Strictly Ballroom</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Maybe you want to learn about <a href="https://landmarksinlondonhistory.wordpress.com/2017/12/06/st-giles-rookery-the-lost-london-landmark/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a rookery</a>.&nbsp;&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://jimcrowmuseum.ferris.edu/question/2010/may.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Anti-miscegnation laws</a> in the United States prevented people from marrying someone of a different race.</li><li><a href="https://go.discovery.com/show/storm-chasers-discovery" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Storm chasing</a> seems honestly like a very dangerous activity. There is no evidence that I could find that a tornado can rip your clothes right off your body, but Kayla Grosse <a href="https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/has-anyone-survived-a-tornado-by-laying-in-a-ditch.2316775/page-2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">probably read this webpage for research.</a> (lol)</li><li><a href="https://ldaamerica.org/what-is-dyscalculia/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dyscalculia</a> is a learning disability rooted in math and number.</li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Piper Rayne</strong>, authors of <em>Mr. Heartbreaker</em>, available in print, ebook, audio, from <a href="https://amzn.to/436WJGq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/mr-heartbreaker-piper-rayne/1145416844?ean=9798887143491" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/mr-heartbreaker-4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/mr-heartbreaker/id6475649594" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9798887143491" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>. </li><li><strong>Megan Frampton</strong>, author of <em>The Devil's Charm</em>, available in print, ebook, audio, from <a href="https://amzn.to/4i9fVIp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-devils-charm-megan-frampton/1145657441?ean=9780063389212" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-devil-s-charm-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-devils-charm/id6503873311" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063389205" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>. </li><li><strong>1001 Dark Nights</strong>, publishers of <em>Riches and Romance: A Billionaire Romance Anthology </em>from Dylan Allen, Kendall Ryan, Lexi Blake and Melissa Foster, available with <a href="https://amzn.to/3D3rhhH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>. </li><li><strong>Charlotte Stein</strong>, author of <em>My Big Fat Fake Marriage</em>, read by Imogen Wilde, available from <a href="https://amzn.to/4khchNL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Audible</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/audiobook/my-big-fat-fake-marriage-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, Apple Books, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/my-big-fat-fake-marriage-charlotte-stein/1145317611?ean=2940192499023" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://libro.fm/audiobooks/9781250386892-my-big-fat-fake-marriage?bookstore=bookshoporg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Libro.fm</a>, or wherever you get your audiobooks. <a href="https://read.macmillan.com/promo/mybigfatfakemarriageaudiosweeps" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Enter the Macmillan Audio sweepstakes</strong></a><strong> to win one of five free copies of the audiobook.</strong>  </li><li><strong>Lucy Score</strong>, author of <em>Story of My Life</em>, available in print, ebook, audio, from <a href="https://amzn.to/3XiTxnv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/story-of-my-life-lucy-score/1145987770?ean=9781464246470" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/lu/book/story-of-my-life/id6526475639" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781728297057" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>. </li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/2/24/0724-hes-not-a-billionaire </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/2/24/0724-hes-not-a-billionaire]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">86dc779a-1ec9-4bab-8346-ec0822fe8d8c</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 24 Feb 2025 20:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/b42dde41-a120-48f5-9174-03d924c76e74/fated-mates-not-a-billionaire.mp3" length="110747125" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:54:50</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>28</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>28</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-b42dde41-a120-48f5-9174-03d924c76e74.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S07.23: Long Live Historicals!</title><itunes:title>Long Live Historicals!</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Historicals are dead! Long live historicals! This week, we're talking about fourteen (and change) historical romances that we've never talked about before -- all published recently, some already this year. Every book we talk about is available right now for download and reading pleasure--and we have a stack of them ready to talk about in future episodes! We're so excited to be your discoverabilibuddies on this one! </p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p><a href="https://read.macmillan.com/promo/wooingthewitchqueenaudiosweeps" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Enter the Macmillan Audio sweepsteakes</a> to win one of five free copies of the audiobook of Stephanie Burgis's <em>Wooing the Witch Queen</em>.</p><p>Our next read along is Julie Anne Long's <em>What I Did For a Duke</em>, available in print, ebook, and audio at <a href="https://amzn.to/3WuoeWi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/what-i-did-for-a-duke-julie-anne-long/1102006654" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/what-i-did-for-a-duke-pennyroyal-green-series" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/what-i-did-for-a-duke/id400622054" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780061885686" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</p><h2>The Books </h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4aL14kb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lyon’s Lover</a> Maggie Sims</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gkj5qJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Sapphire Heiress</a> by Ella Leon</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gmafsB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Shore Thing</a> by Joanna Lowell</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3WHO8pq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Duke’s Bartered Mistress</a> by Caroline Lee</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hDysvA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Villain</a> by Victoria Vale</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3CC8QAr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Exit, Pursued by a Baron</a> by Aydra Richards</li><li><a href="https://www.royalinesing.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Seduced in a Storm</a> By Royaline Sing</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40IAeVf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Bloomy Head</a> by J. Winifred Butterworth</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40Yq8ky" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Never Woo the Wrong Lady</a> by Charlie Lane</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4go3nLw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dionysus in Wisconsin</a> by EH Lupton</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3CnWLPn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">All About That Duke</a> by Merry Farmer</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jIoQBx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Wayward Duke</a> by Katrina Kendrick</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40G8uAL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Where Have All the Scoundrels Gone</a> by Louisa Darling</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4aKTFRS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Winnie West has an Agenda</a> by Kat Sterling</li></ul><br/><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li>Check out Bookshop’s <a href="https://bookshop.org/lists/black-romance-novels" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Romance List</a> and you might want to use <a href="https://www.theverge.com/decoder-podcast-with-nilay-patel/605013/bookshop-org-andy-hunter-amazon-ebooks-monopoly-books" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">their new digital books app</a> to read The Co-Op by Tarah DeWitt or any other eBook on a<a href="https://www.theverge.com/24184777/boox-palma-e-ink-smartphone-reader" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Boox Palma 2</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.lovebudleigh.co.uk/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Budleigh Salterton</a> seems nice next time you’re going to England.</li><li>A bike with a big front wheel is called <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penny-farthing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a penny-farthing</a>.</li><li>Bicycle jousting sounds like that whole scene in Footloose.&nbsp;</li><li>Endymion is <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endymion_(mythology)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a myth,</a> <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/44469/endymion-56d2239287ca5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a poem</a>, and also a burly, grouchy Scot.</li><li><a href="https://obviousstate.com/blogs/journal/exit-pursued-by-a-bear?srsltid=AfmBOooy9f8ozhbl7UXCmZoN7Vn9Ejr_uFBP2LI4klnKOCFI7vzvZH9c" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Exit, Pursued by a Bear</a> is a stage direction from a Winter’s Tale.&nbsp;</li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Rien Gray</strong>, author of <em>Double Exposure</em>, available in <a href="https://amzn.to/4hzHJVT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">print</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/4hzHJVT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ebook</a>, or with your <a href="https://amzn.to/4hzHJVT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>. </li><li><strong>Stephanie Rose</strong>, author of <em>Just One Favor</em>, available in <a href="https://amzn.to/3X9Pz07" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">print</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/3X9Pz07" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ebook</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/3X9Pz07" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">audio</a>, or with your <a href="https://amzn.to/3X9Pz07" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>. </li><li><strong>Stephanie Burgis</strong>, author of <em>Wooing the Witch Queen</em>, read by Amanda Leigh Cobb, available form <a href="https://amzn.to/3X6K9TK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Audible</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/audiobook/wooing-the-witch-queen-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/audiobook/wooing-the-witch-queen/id1743795168" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/wooing-the-witch-queen-stephanie-burgis/1145317537?ean=2940192401651" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.awin1.com/cread.php?awinmid=25361&amp;awinaffid=1785000&amp;ued=https%3A%2F%2Flibro.fm%2Faudiobooks%2F9781250385727" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Libro.fm</a>, or wherever you get your audiobooks. <a href="https://read.macmillan.com/promo/wooingthewitchqueenaudiosweeps" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Enter the Macmillan Audio sweepsteakes</strong></a><strong> to win one of five free copies of the audiobook.</strong>  </li><li><strong>Lumi Labs</strong>, creators of Lumi Gummies. Go to <a href="https://lumigummies.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lumigummies.com</a> and use code FATEDMATES for 30% off.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/2/13/0723-the-new-historicals </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p><p>00:00.000 Heavy is the DiscoverabilityBuddy Crown</p><p>11:09.500 Upstairs Downstairs Reading</p><p>14:37.500 The New Historicals</p><p>18:56.000 AD: DOUBLE EXPOSURE</p><p>21:03.000 Lyon's Lover</p><p>27:38.000 The Sapphire Heiress</p><p>33:15.000 AD: WOOING THE WITCH QUEEN</p><p>35:50.000 A Shore Thing</p><p>43:48.500 The Duke's Bartered Mistress</p><p>49:36.500 AD: JUST ONE FAVOR</p><p>51:31.500 The Villain</p><p>59:14.000 Exit, Pursued by a Baron</p><p>01:04:12.000 AD: LUMI GUMMIES</p><p>01:06:30.500 Seduced in a Storm</p><p>01:11:56.000 A Bloomy Head</p><p>01:19:19.000 Never Woo the Wrong Lady</p><p>01:27:07.500 Dionysus in Wisconsin</p><p>01:32:52.000 All About that Duke</p><p>01:40:48.000 The Wayward Duke</p><p>01:45:59.500 Where Have all the Scoundrels Gone</p><p>01:52:13.000 Winnie West Has an Agenda</p><p>02:03:22.000 AD: WOOING THE WITCH QUEEN</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Historicals are dead! Long live historicals! This week, we're talking about fourteen (and change) historical romances that we've never talked about before -- all published recently, some already this year. Every book we talk about is available right now for download and reading pleasure--and we have a stack of them ready to talk about in future episodes! We're so excited to be your discoverabilibuddies on this one! </p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p><a href="https://read.macmillan.com/promo/wooingthewitchqueenaudiosweeps" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Enter the Macmillan Audio sweepsteakes</a> to win one of five free copies of the audiobook of Stephanie Burgis's <em>Wooing the Witch Queen</em>.</p><p>Our next read along is Julie Anne Long's <em>What I Did For a Duke</em>, available in print, ebook, and audio at <a href="https://amzn.to/3WuoeWi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/what-i-did-for-a-duke-julie-anne-long/1102006654" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/what-i-did-for-a-duke-pennyroyal-green-series" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/what-i-did-for-a-duke/id400622054" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780061885686" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</p><h2>The Books </h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4aL14kb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lyon’s Lover</a> Maggie Sims</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gkj5qJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Sapphire Heiress</a> by Ella Leon</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gmafsB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Shore Thing</a> by Joanna Lowell</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3WHO8pq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Duke’s Bartered Mistress</a> by Caroline Lee</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hDysvA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Villain</a> by Victoria Vale</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3CC8QAr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Exit, Pursued by a Baron</a> by Aydra Richards</li><li><a href="https://www.royalinesing.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Seduced in a Storm</a> By Royaline Sing</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40IAeVf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Bloomy Head</a> by J. Winifred Butterworth</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40Yq8ky" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Never Woo the Wrong Lady</a> by Charlie Lane</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4go3nLw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dionysus in Wisconsin</a> by EH Lupton</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3CnWLPn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">All About That Duke</a> by Merry Farmer</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jIoQBx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Wayward Duke</a> by Katrina Kendrick</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40G8uAL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Where Have All the Scoundrels Gone</a> by Louisa Darling</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4aKTFRS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Winnie West has an Agenda</a> by Kat Sterling</li></ul><br/><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li>Check out Bookshop’s <a href="https://bookshop.org/lists/black-romance-novels" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Romance List</a> and you might want to use <a href="https://www.theverge.com/decoder-podcast-with-nilay-patel/605013/bookshop-org-andy-hunter-amazon-ebooks-monopoly-books" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">their new digital books app</a> to read The Co-Op by Tarah DeWitt or any other eBook on a<a href="https://www.theverge.com/24184777/boox-palma-e-ink-smartphone-reader" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Boox Palma 2</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.lovebudleigh.co.uk/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Budleigh Salterton</a> seems nice next time you’re going to England.</li><li>A bike with a big front wheel is called <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penny-farthing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a penny-farthing</a>.</li><li>Bicycle jousting sounds like that whole scene in Footloose.&nbsp;</li><li>Endymion is <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endymion_(mythology)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a myth,</a> <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/44469/endymion-56d2239287ca5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a poem</a>, and also a burly, grouchy Scot.</li><li><a href="https://obviousstate.com/blogs/journal/exit-pursued-by-a-bear?srsltid=AfmBOooy9f8ozhbl7UXCmZoN7Vn9Ejr_uFBP2LI4klnKOCFI7vzvZH9c" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Exit, Pursued by a Bear</a> is a stage direction from a Winter’s Tale.&nbsp;</li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Rien Gray</strong>, author of <em>Double Exposure</em>, available in <a href="https://amzn.to/4hzHJVT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">print</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/4hzHJVT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ebook</a>, or with your <a href="https://amzn.to/4hzHJVT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>. </li><li><strong>Stephanie Rose</strong>, author of <em>Just One Favor</em>, available in <a href="https://amzn.to/3X9Pz07" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">print</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/3X9Pz07" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ebook</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/3X9Pz07" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">audio</a>, or with your <a href="https://amzn.to/3X9Pz07" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>. </li><li><strong>Stephanie Burgis</strong>, author of <em>Wooing the Witch Queen</em>, read by Amanda Leigh Cobb, available form <a href="https://amzn.to/3X6K9TK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Audible</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/audiobook/wooing-the-witch-queen-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/audiobook/wooing-the-witch-queen/id1743795168" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/wooing-the-witch-queen-stephanie-burgis/1145317537?ean=2940192401651" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.awin1.com/cread.php?awinmid=25361&amp;awinaffid=1785000&amp;ued=https%3A%2F%2Flibro.fm%2Faudiobooks%2F9781250385727" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Libro.fm</a>, or wherever you get your audiobooks. <a href="https://read.macmillan.com/promo/wooingthewitchqueenaudiosweeps" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Enter the Macmillan Audio sweepsteakes</strong></a><strong> to win one of five free copies of the audiobook.</strong>  </li><li><strong>Lumi Labs</strong>, creators of Lumi Gummies. Go to <a href="https://lumigummies.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lumigummies.com</a> and use code FATEDMATES for 30% off.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/2/13/0723-the-new-historicals </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p><p>00:00.000 Heavy is the DiscoverabilityBuddy Crown</p><p>11:09.500 Upstairs Downstairs Reading</p><p>14:37.500 The New Historicals</p><p>18:56.000 AD: DOUBLE EXPOSURE</p><p>21:03.000 Lyon's Lover</p><p>27:38.000 The Sapphire Heiress</p><p>33:15.000 AD: WOOING THE WITCH QUEEN</p><p>35:50.000 A Shore Thing</p><p>43:48.500 The Duke's Bartered Mistress</p><p>49:36.500 AD: JUST ONE FAVOR</p><p>51:31.500 The Villain</p><p>59:14.000 Exit, Pursued by a Baron</p><p>01:04:12.000 AD: LUMI GUMMIES</p><p>01:06:30.500 Seduced in a Storm</p><p>01:11:56.000 A Bloomy Head</p><p>01:19:19.000 Never Woo the Wrong Lady</p><p>01:27:07.500 Dionysus in Wisconsin</p><p>01:32:52.000 All About that Duke</p><p>01:40:48.000 The Wayward Duke</p><p>01:45:59.500 Where Have all the Scoundrels Gone</p><p>01:52:13.000 Winnie West Has an Agenda</p><p>02:03:22.000 AD: WOOING THE WITCH QUEEN</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/2/13/0723-the-new-historicals]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">d19758c6-f546-4a9b-b93c-ac1b3aaf7579</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Sun, 16 Feb 2025 07:32:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/f121b550-fa0e-4ac2-ae5e-94db5d1ca308/fated-mates-long-live-historicals.mp3" length="123775867" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>02:08:24</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>27</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>27</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-f121b550-fa0e-4ac2-ae5e-94db5d1ca308.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S07.22: Adriana Herrera on the Power of Historical Romance: When We’re Up Against a Corner, Baby, Let’s Fight.</title><itunes:title>Adriana Herrera on the Power of Historical Romance: When We’re Up Against a Corner, Baby, Let’s Fight.</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>There's a new Adriana Herrera book out this month, so that means we get to have one of our very favorites back on the pod to talk about not only her banger of a book, <em>A Tropical Rebel Gets the Duke</em>, but also about historical in general! This week, we talk about historicals, in general, about why everyone seems to think they're dying (spoiler: they're not!), and do some myth busting on perceptions of the historical romance. We're extremely grateful to friend of the pod Alexandria Bellefleur for offering up her collected data on historical romance and readers -- check out her books (listed below), as well, and come back next week for more historical recs!</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p>Our next read along is Julie Anne Long's <em>What I Did For a Duke</em>, available in print, ebook, and audio at <a href="https://amzn.to/3WuoeWi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/what-i-did-for-a-duke-julie-anne-long/1102006654" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/what-i-did-for-a-duke-pennyroyal-green-series" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/what-i-did-for-a-duke/id400622054" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780061885686" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</p><p>Enter the Macmillan Audio sweepstakes to win one of five free audiobook copies of Chloe C. Peñaranda's <em>The Night is Defying</em>. </p><h2>The Books </h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jPixfB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Tropical Rebel Gets the Duke</a> by Adriana Herrera</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3CLLKav" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Perks of Loving a Wallflower</a> by Erica Ridley&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gA6eRp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Proper English</a> by KJ Charles</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3EyxrXp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">My Lady’s Lover</a> by Nicola Davidson&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hyeRNK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Duchess Hunt</a> by Lorraine Heath</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42X3k5Y" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Gilded Heiress</a> by Joanna Shupe</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hSqHlz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Duke Gets Desperate</a> by Diana Quincy</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jPAY3R" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love, Death, and Lanterns</a> by Jeanne Lin</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3COjuUJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Duke, the Lady, and a Baby</a> by Vanessa Riley&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/416BOBU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Duke Gets Even</a> by Joanna Shupe</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3CIfO72" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Magpie Lord</a> by KJ Charles</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3QcjHUR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wicked and the Wallflower</a> by Sarah MacLean</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3WUWNFi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Luckiest Lady in London</a> by Sherry Thomas</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gzS6b4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Prince of Broadway</a> by Joanna Shupe</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hPUU4P" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Bride</a> by Julie Garwood</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3WPCbOv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Let Us Dream</a> by Alyssa Cole</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/41br1WU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">An Extraordinary Union</a> by Alyssa Cole</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/417SBo9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Night Hawk</a> by Beverly Jenkins</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hBsig4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Forbidden</a> by Beverly Jenkins</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hvl6Sn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">To Catch a Raven</a> by Beverly Jenkins</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40MWCgm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Earl Takes All</a> by Lorraine Heath</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42RKMEm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Any Old Diamonds</a> by KJ Charles</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42X3IRY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Raven Prince</a> by Elizabeth Hoyt</li></ul><br/><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome <a href="https://adrianaherreraromance.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adriana Herrera</a>, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/4jPixfB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Tropical Rebel Gets the Duke</a>, the third in the Las Leonas series set during <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exposition_Universelle_(1889)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Exposition Universelle in 1889 Paris.</a>&nbsp;</li><li>In this book, Aurora is running a women’s health clinic and the text is a fierce call for reproductive justice, and we’re back there. If you’re interested in checking out some of the books she used to do her research, try <a href="https://amzn.to/4aTFkmh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sex, Herbs, and Birth Control: Women and Fertility Regulation Through the Ages</a> by Ann Hibner Koblitz and <a href="https://amzn.to/3CLMcFJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Story of Jane: The Legendary Underground Feminist Abortion Service</a> by Laura Kaplan. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comstock_Act_of_1873" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Comstock Act of 1873</a> was a problem then, and sooner or later, <a href="https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2024/how-the-comstock-act-threatens-abortion-rights" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">they’ll be a problem again.</a></li><li>Thanks to <a href="https://www.alexandriabellefleur.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alexandria Bellefleur</a> for sharing the results of her poll about historical romance. You can check out her latest contemporary romance, <a href="https://amzn.to/4jVh2wk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Truly, Madly, Deeply</a>.</li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Jenn Bouchard</strong>, author of <em>Considering Us, </em>available in print or ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/4gHjNyy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>1001 Dark Nights</strong>, publishers of <em>From Friends to Forever: A Love Grows Collection</em> <em>, </em>available in print or ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/4hTjMsl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Chloe C. Peñaranda</strong>, author of <em>The Night is Defying</em> audiobook, read by Corvin King and Jacci Prior, available from <a href="https://amzn.to/4jQvh5J" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Audible</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/audiobook/the-night-is-defying-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/audiobook/the-night-is-defying/id1743795103" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-night-is-defying-chloe-c-penaranda/1145920160?ean=2940192558218" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://libro.fm/audiobooks/9781250385710-the-night-is-defying?bookstore=bookshoporg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Libro.fm</a> or wherever you get your audiobooks. <a href="https://read.macmillan.com/promo/thenightisdefyingaudiosweeps" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Enter the Macmillan Audio sweepstakes</strong></a><strong> to win one of five free copies of this audiobook.</strong></li><li><strong>Sophie Lark</strong>, author of <em>Kingmakers: Year One</em>, available in print or ebook from Amazon, or <a href="https://amzn.to/4b2wrHm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Annabelle Slator</strong>, author of <em>The Launch Date</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/4aWKhuT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-launch-date-annabelle-slator/1145591646?ean=9780063383623" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-launch-date-2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/au/book/the-launch-date/id6502622200" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063383623" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p>00:00 Welcome Adrianna Herrera</p><p>01:34 A Tropical Rebel Gets the Duke</p><p>07:41 The Political Realities</p><p>11:24 What Historical Can Do</p><p>14:54 AD: FROM FRIENDS TO FOREVER</p><p>16:41 Romance and Feminism</p><p>29:26 AD: CONSIDERING US</p><p>31:17 More of What Historicals Can Do</p><p>43:29 AD: KINGMAKERS: YEAR ONE</p><p>45:39 The Future (and Present) of Historical Romance</p><p>57:38 Myth: There Aren't Sapphic Historicals </p><p>59:54 ADL THE NIGHT IS DEFYING</p><p>1:07:07 Myth: The Writing isn't for Me</p><p>1:09:56 Myth: I Can't Relate</p><p>1:15:10 AD: THE LAUNCH DATE</p><p>1:16:56 Myth: History is a Problem</p><p>1:25:52 Foolproof...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There's a new Adriana Herrera book out this month, so that means we get to have one of our very favorites back on the pod to talk about not only her banger of a book, <em>A Tropical Rebel Gets the Duke</em>, but also about historical in general! This week, we talk about historicals, in general, about why everyone seems to think they're dying (spoiler: they're not!), and do some myth busting on perceptions of the historical romance. We're extremely grateful to friend of the pod Alexandria Bellefleur for offering up her collected data on historical romance and readers -- check out her books (listed below), as well, and come back next week for more historical recs!</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p>Our next read along is Julie Anne Long's <em>What I Did For a Duke</em>, available in print, ebook, and audio at <a href="https://amzn.to/3WuoeWi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/what-i-did-for-a-duke-julie-anne-long/1102006654" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/what-i-did-for-a-duke-pennyroyal-green-series" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/what-i-did-for-a-duke/id400622054" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780061885686" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</p><p>Enter the Macmillan Audio sweepstakes to win one of five free audiobook copies of Chloe C. Peñaranda's <em>The Night is Defying</em>. </p><h2>The Books </h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jPixfB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Tropical Rebel Gets the Duke</a> by Adriana Herrera</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3CLLKav" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Perks of Loving a Wallflower</a> by Erica Ridley&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gA6eRp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Proper English</a> by KJ Charles</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3EyxrXp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">My Lady’s Lover</a> by Nicola Davidson&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hyeRNK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Duchess Hunt</a> by Lorraine Heath</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42X3k5Y" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Gilded Heiress</a> by Joanna Shupe</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hSqHlz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Duke Gets Desperate</a> by Diana Quincy</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jPAY3R" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love, Death, and Lanterns</a> by Jeanne Lin</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3COjuUJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Duke, the Lady, and a Baby</a> by Vanessa Riley&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/416BOBU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Duke Gets Even</a> by Joanna Shupe</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3CIfO72" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Magpie Lord</a> by KJ Charles</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3QcjHUR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wicked and the Wallflower</a> by Sarah MacLean</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3WUWNFi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Luckiest Lady in London</a> by Sherry Thomas</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gzS6b4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Prince of Broadway</a> by Joanna Shupe</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hPUU4P" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Bride</a> by Julie Garwood</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3WPCbOv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Let Us Dream</a> by Alyssa Cole</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/41br1WU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">An Extraordinary Union</a> by Alyssa Cole</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/417SBo9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Night Hawk</a> by Beverly Jenkins</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hBsig4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Forbidden</a> by Beverly Jenkins</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hvl6Sn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">To Catch a Raven</a> by Beverly Jenkins</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40MWCgm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Earl Takes All</a> by Lorraine Heath</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42RKMEm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Any Old Diamonds</a> by KJ Charles</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42X3IRY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Raven Prince</a> by Elizabeth Hoyt</li></ul><br/><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome <a href="https://adrianaherreraromance.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adriana Herrera</a>, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/4jPixfB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Tropical Rebel Gets the Duke</a>, the third in the Las Leonas series set during <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exposition_Universelle_(1889)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Exposition Universelle in 1889 Paris.</a>&nbsp;</li><li>In this book, Aurora is running a women’s health clinic and the text is a fierce call for reproductive justice, and we’re back there. If you’re interested in checking out some of the books she used to do her research, try <a href="https://amzn.to/4aTFkmh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sex, Herbs, and Birth Control: Women and Fertility Regulation Through the Ages</a> by Ann Hibner Koblitz and <a href="https://amzn.to/3CLMcFJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Story of Jane: The Legendary Underground Feminist Abortion Service</a> by Laura Kaplan. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comstock_Act_of_1873" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Comstock Act of 1873</a> was a problem then, and sooner or later, <a href="https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2024/how-the-comstock-act-threatens-abortion-rights" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">they’ll be a problem again.</a></li><li>Thanks to <a href="https://www.alexandriabellefleur.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alexandria Bellefleur</a> for sharing the results of her poll about historical romance. You can check out her latest contemporary romance, <a href="https://amzn.to/4jVh2wk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Truly, Madly, Deeply</a>.</li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Jenn Bouchard</strong>, author of <em>Considering Us, </em>available in print or ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/4gHjNyy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>1001 Dark Nights</strong>, publishers of <em>From Friends to Forever: A Love Grows Collection</em> <em>, </em>available in print or ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/4hTjMsl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Chloe C. Peñaranda</strong>, author of <em>The Night is Defying</em> audiobook, read by Corvin King and Jacci Prior, available from <a href="https://amzn.to/4jQvh5J" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Audible</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/audiobook/the-night-is-defying-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/audiobook/the-night-is-defying/id1743795103" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-night-is-defying-chloe-c-penaranda/1145920160?ean=2940192558218" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://libro.fm/audiobooks/9781250385710-the-night-is-defying?bookstore=bookshoporg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Libro.fm</a> or wherever you get your audiobooks. <a href="https://read.macmillan.com/promo/thenightisdefyingaudiosweeps" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Enter the Macmillan Audio sweepstakes</strong></a><strong> to win one of five free copies of this audiobook.</strong></li><li><strong>Sophie Lark</strong>, author of <em>Kingmakers: Year One</em>, available in print or ebook from Amazon, or <a href="https://amzn.to/4b2wrHm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Annabelle Slator</strong>, author of <em>The Launch Date</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/4aWKhuT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-launch-date-annabelle-slator/1145591646?ean=9780063383623" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-launch-date-2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/au/book/the-launch-date/id6502622200" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063383623" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p>00:00 Welcome Adrianna Herrera</p><p>01:34 A Tropical Rebel Gets the Duke</p><p>07:41 The Political Realities</p><p>11:24 What Historical Can Do</p><p>14:54 AD: FROM FRIENDS TO FOREVER</p><p>16:41 Romance and Feminism</p><p>29:26 AD: CONSIDERING US</p><p>31:17 More of What Historicals Can Do</p><p>43:29 AD: KINGMAKERS: YEAR ONE</p><p>45:39 The Future (and Present) of Historical Romance</p><p>57:38 Myth: There Aren't Sapphic Historicals </p><p>59:54 ADL THE NIGHT IS DEFYING</p><p>1:07:07 Myth: The Writing isn't for Me</p><p>1:09:56 Myth: I Can't Relate</p><p>1:15:10 AD: THE LAUNCH DATE</p><p>1:16:56 Myth: History is a Problem</p><p>1:25:52 Foolproof Recs</p><p>1:43:22 Beverly Jenkins Recommendations</p><p>1:47:24 The "Wettest" Historical Romance</p><p>1:59:19 Outro</p><p>2:01:01 ADL THE NIGHT IS DEFYING</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/2/10/0722-adriana-herrera-and-the-power-of-historical-romance-when-were-up-against-a-corner-baby-lets-fight]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">60e4f8f4-8875-44fa-9b8a-bcfa997efa99</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 11 Feb 2025 14:15:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/2b554d01-049f-4d74-aa89-431506d904fa/fated-mates-adriana-7000.mp3" length="121312196" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>02:05:50</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>26</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>26</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-2b554d01-049f-4d74-aa89-431506d904fa.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>New York Public Library Best New Romance List</title><itunes:title>New York Public Library Best New Romance List</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Jen had a great time chatting with the <a href="https://www.nypl.org/books-more/recommendations/romance-2025/adults" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">New York Public Library's Best New Romance List</a> Committee&nbsp;Co-Chairs Kate Fais and Grace Loiacono this week. They talk about the list and how they built it, about the power of libraries, and, as always, about joy.  </p><ul><li>See <a href="https://www.nypl.org/books-more/recommendations/romance-2025/adults" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the full list</a></li><li>Visit the <a href="https://nypl.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">New York Public Library</a></li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jen had a great time chatting with the <a href="https://www.nypl.org/books-more/recommendations/romance-2025/adults" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">New York Public Library's Best New Romance List</a> Committee&nbsp;Co-Chairs Kate Fais and Grace Loiacono this week. They talk about the list and how they built it, about the power of libraries, and, as always, about joy.  </p><ul><li>See <a href="https://www.nypl.org/books-more/recommendations/romance-2025/adults" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the full list</a></li><li>Visit the <a href="https://nypl.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">New York Public Library</a></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/2/10/new-york-public-library-best-new-romance-list]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">e0aa0b25-c2f4-448c-83d3-e69ac86cfae4</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 11 Feb 2025 10:53:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/c0886978-6dba-4c11-ace1-3c6fa3d08f6b/fated-mates-nypl-best-new-romance.mp3" length="22378993" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>22:47</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>25</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>25</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season></item><item><title>S07.21: Meet My Vibe Criteria: V.E. Schwab on writing, obsession, and romance outside of Romance</title><itunes:title>Meet My Vibe Criteria: V.E. Schwab on writing, obsession, and romance outside of Romance</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We're mixing it up today with a fabulous special guest! The brilliant V.E. Schwab joins us for a far-reaching chat about writing romance outside of romance novels™️, about the difference between obsession and love, about the way we can't help but ship characters who will never get together, and about writing in general...and how we tackle character, conflict, and power in storytelling. We had a great time, and you will, too. </p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p>Our next read along is Julie Anne Long's <em>What I Did For a Duke</em>, available in print, ebook, and audio at <a href="https://amzn.to/3WuoeWi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/what-i-did-for-a-duke-julie-anne-long/1102006654" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/what-i-did-for-a-duke-pennyroyal-green-series" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/what-i-did-for-a-duke/id400622054" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780061885686" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</p><p>Enter the <a href="https://read.macmillan.com/promo/therivalsweeptakes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Macmillan Audio sweepstakes</a> to win one of five free audiobook copies of Emma Lord's <em>The Rival</em>. </p><h2>The Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3EpjqeE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bury Our Bones in the Midnight Soil</a> by V.E. Schwab</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4aLnUYZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Invisible Life of Addie LaRue</a> by V.E. Schwab</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hnSfiW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vicious</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/3Q3mOhO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vengeful</a> by V.E. Schwab</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/410psuV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Darker Shade of Magic</a> by V.E. Schwab</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3WNiG9g" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Fragile Threads of Power</a> by V.E. Schwab</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Q3n1S8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">This is How You Lose the Time War</a> by Amal El-Mohtar and Max Gladstone</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/415gQDC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Ministry of Time</a> by Kaliane Bradley</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Cp3Kri" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Babel</a> by RF Kuang</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gtQ4t1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Midnight Line</a> by Lee Child</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42Dbwsb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Six of Crows</a> by Leigh Bardugo</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hHxTkv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">When Among Crows</a> by Veronica Roth&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4i2lvfd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Heart of Blood and Ashes</a> by Milla Vane</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hJlBrF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chaos</a> by Constance Fay</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jVKLWa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Murderbot Diaries</a> by Martha Wells</li></ul><br/><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome V.E. Schwab to the podcast! You can check out her podcast about writing called <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-write-way-with-v-e-schwab/id1738545065" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">No Write Way</a>, and you can click her to <a href="https://www.veschwab.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sign up for her newsletter</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Sarah has <a href="https://order.wbu.com/shop/bird-feeders/window-feeders/window-feeder" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a new birdfeeder</a> for her office.&nbsp;</li><li>You, too, can watch <a href="https://youtu.be/JBXyrRF8Xqs?si=a3P1C4_8ypUNMoVI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lee Child playing chess.</a>&nbsp;</li><li>Philip Larkin wrote a great poem about parents, <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/48419/this-be-the-verse" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">This Be the Verse.</a></li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Max Monroe</strong>, author of <em>Playing Games, </em>available in print or ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/4jHVYcF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.</li><li><strong>Adriana Herrera</strong>, author of <em>A Tropical Rebel Gets the Duke, </em>available in print or ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/42LGLBh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-tropical-rebel-gets-the-duke-adriana-herrera/1144565260?ean=9781335476968" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/a-tropical-rebel-gets-the-duke" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/a-tropical-rebel-gets-the-duke/id6475586031" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781335476968" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Macmilllan Audio</strong>, publishers of <em>The Rival</em> by Emma Lord, read by Jesse Vilinsky, available from <a href="https://amzn.to/3EpdsdD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Audible</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/audiobook/the-rival-19" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/audiobook/the-rival/id1743794750" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-rival-emma-lord/1145317456?ean=2940192558157" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://libro.fm/audiobooks/9781250381507-the-rival?bookstore=bookshoporg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Libro.fm</a> or wherever you get your audiobooks. <strong>Enter the </strong><a href="https://read.macmillan.com/promo/therivalsweeptakes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Macmillan Audio sweepstakes</strong></a><strong> to win one of five free copies of this audiobook.</strong></li><li><strong>Allison A. Andrews</strong>, author of <em>The Winning Ticket</em>, available in print or ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/4jNc1py" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, or with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited.</li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>00:00 Bantr</p><p>07:54 Welcome VE Schwab</p><p>15:15 AD: THE WINNING TICKET</p><p>21:37 Writing Relationship</p><p>32:29 The Marketing Problem</p><p>34:24 AD: THE RIVAL</p><p>44:47 Characters and Genres Evolve</p><p>49:10 AD: PLAYING GAMES</p><p>57:35 Judgement &amp; Labels</p><p>1:03:56 AD: A TROPICAL REBEL GETS THE DUKE</p><p>1:12:32 The Minions Complex</p><p>1:20:02 Recommendations </p><p>1:31:25 Outro</p><p>1:33:44 AD: THE RIVAL</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We're mixing it up today with a fabulous special guest! The brilliant V.E. Schwab joins us for a far-reaching chat about writing romance outside of romance novels™️, about the difference between obsession and love, about the way we can't help but ship characters who will never get together, and about writing in general...and how we tackle character, conflict, and power in storytelling. We had a great time, and you will, too. </p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p>Our next read along is Julie Anne Long's <em>What I Did For a Duke</em>, available in print, ebook, and audio at <a href="https://amzn.to/3WuoeWi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/what-i-did-for-a-duke-julie-anne-long/1102006654" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/what-i-did-for-a-duke-pennyroyal-green-series" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/what-i-did-for-a-duke/id400622054" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780061885686" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</p><p>Enter the <a href="https://read.macmillan.com/promo/therivalsweeptakes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Macmillan Audio sweepstakes</a> to win one of five free audiobook copies of Emma Lord's <em>The Rival</em>. </p><h2>The Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3EpjqeE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bury Our Bones in the Midnight Soil</a> by V.E. Schwab</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4aLnUYZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Invisible Life of Addie LaRue</a> by V.E. Schwab</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hnSfiW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vicious</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/3Q3mOhO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vengeful</a> by V.E. Schwab</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/410psuV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Darker Shade of Magic</a> by V.E. Schwab</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3WNiG9g" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Fragile Threads of Power</a> by V.E. Schwab</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Q3n1S8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">This is How You Lose the Time War</a> by Amal El-Mohtar and Max Gladstone</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/415gQDC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Ministry of Time</a> by Kaliane Bradley</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Cp3Kri" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Babel</a> by RF Kuang</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gtQ4t1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Midnight Line</a> by Lee Child</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42Dbwsb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Six of Crows</a> by Leigh Bardugo</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hHxTkv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">When Among Crows</a> by Veronica Roth&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4i2lvfd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Heart of Blood and Ashes</a> by Milla Vane</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hJlBrF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chaos</a> by Constance Fay</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jVKLWa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Murderbot Diaries</a> by Martha Wells</li></ul><br/><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome V.E. Schwab to the podcast! You can check out her podcast about writing called <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-write-way-with-v-e-schwab/id1738545065" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">No Write Way</a>, and you can click her to <a href="https://www.veschwab.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sign up for her newsletter</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Sarah has <a href="https://order.wbu.com/shop/bird-feeders/window-feeders/window-feeder" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a new birdfeeder</a> for her office.&nbsp;</li><li>You, too, can watch <a href="https://youtu.be/JBXyrRF8Xqs?si=a3P1C4_8ypUNMoVI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lee Child playing chess.</a>&nbsp;</li><li>Philip Larkin wrote a great poem about parents, <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/48419/this-be-the-verse" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">This Be the Verse.</a></li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Max Monroe</strong>, author of <em>Playing Games, </em>available in print or ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/4jHVYcF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.</li><li><strong>Adriana Herrera</strong>, author of <em>A Tropical Rebel Gets the Duke, </em>available in print or ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/42LGLBh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-tropical-rebel-gets-the-duke-adriana-herrera/1144565260?ean=9781335476968" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/a-tropical-rebel-gets-the-duke" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/a-tropical-rebel-gets-the-duke/id6475586031" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781335476968" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Macmilllan Audio</strong>, publishers of <em>The Rival</em> by Emma Lord, read by Jesse Vilinsky, available from <a href="https://amzn.to/3EpdsdD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Audible</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/audiobook/the-rival-19" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/audiobook/the-rival/id1743794750" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-rival-emma-lord/1145317456?ean=2940192558157" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://libro.fm/audiobooks/9781250381507-the-rival?bookstore=bookshoporg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Libro.fm</a> or wherever you get your audiobooks. <strong>Enter the </strong><a href="https://read.macmillan.com/promo/therivalsweeptakes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Macmillan Audio sweepstakes</strong></a><strong> to win one of five free copies of this audiobook.</strong></li><li><strong>Allison A. Andrews</strong>, author of <em>The Winning Ticket</em>, available in print or ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/4jNc1py" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, or with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited.</li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>00:00 Bantr</p><p>07:54 Welcome VE Schwab</p><p>15:15 AD: THE WINNING TICKET</p><p>21:37 Writing Relationship</p><p>32:29 The Marketing Problem</p><p>34:24 AD: THE RIVAL</p><p>44:47 Characters and Genres Evolve</p><p>49:10 AD: PLAYING GAMES</p><p>57:35 Judgement &amp; Labels</p><p>1:03:56 AD: A TROPICAL REBEL GETS THE DUKE</p><p>1:12:32 The Minions Complex</p><p>1:20:02 Recommendations </p><p>1:31:25 Outro</p><p>1:33:44 AD: THE RIVAL</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/2/4/0721-a-conversation-with-ve-schwab]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">9b5c7238-4bc4-43da-9a03-9b85d8cd12f5</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 04 Feb 2025 17:44:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/aef6eea7-70a4-4212-b32a-ca3a84f799ab/fated-mates-ve-schwab.mp3" length="93979838" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:37:28</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>24</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>24</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season></item><item><title>A Taste of Craven</title><itunes:title>A Taste of Craven</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It's February 4th, the most important romance holiday in February: Derek Craven Day! We're celebrating this year with a little reminiscing of the past years' episodes, and a close reading of the first chapter of that classic, Lisa Kleypas's <em>Dreaming of You. </em></p><p>Read <em>Dreaming of You</em> at: <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780380773527" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/2MTMQXm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dreaming-of-you-lisa-kleypas/1100214939" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/dreaming-of-you-3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/dreaming-of-you/id360607873?ct=books_dreaming_of_you&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_toolbox&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or wherever you get your books. </p><p>Learn more about the holiday, and the man who inspired it, and listen to past Derek Craven Day episodes <a href="https://fatedmates.net/derek-craven-day" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">on the Fated Mates website</a>. </p><p>If you want more discussion of Derek Craven in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's February 4th, the most important romance holiday in February: Derek Craven Day! We're celebrating this year with a little reminiscing of the past years' episodes, and a close reading of the first chapter of that classic, Lisa Kleypas's <em>Dreaming of You. </em></p><p>Read <em>Dreaming of You</em> at: <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780380773527" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/2MTMQXm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dreaming-of-you-lisa-kleypas/1100214939" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/dreaming-of-you-3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/dreaming-of-you/id360607873?ct=books_dreaming_of_you&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_toolbox&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or wherever you get your books. </p><p>Learn more about the holiday, and the man who inspired it, and listen to past Derek Craven Day episodes <a href="https://fatedmates.net/derek-craven-day" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">on the Fated Mates website</a>. </p><p>If you want more discussion of Derek Craven in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/2/3/a-taste-of-craven-happy-derek-craven-day]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">77849294-ec8b-4333-954d-8df2459ea7c9</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/2833a85a-eda6-4cfb-9161-e0599afb09f1/O_u_0wFsHkpCxz0iETXebKLM.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 03 Feb 2025 23:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/827178e2-ab84-41ad-8e3c-a80473916e1b/a-taste-of-craven.mp3" length="21888047" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>22:36</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>23</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>23</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-827178e2-ab84-41ad-8e3c-a80473916e1b.json" type="application/json+chapters"/><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="video/youtube" title="A Taste of Craven"><podcast:source uri="https://youtu.be/S9kGpjl7vIw"/></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>S07.20 Tarot, Astrology, and Psychics in Romance</title><itunes:title>Tarot, Astrology, and Psychics in Romance</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We'll be honest, we don't know what the heck is going on, either. If we could find someone or something to make all this chaos make sense, we'd be very very happy. And so, we're reading books this week about people and things that make sense of chaos--that realign the universe. It's tarot, astrology and psychics this week!</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p>Our next read along is Julie Anne Long's <em>What I Did For a Duke</em>, available in print, ebook and audio at <a href="https://amzn.to/3WuoeWi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/what-i-did-for-a-duke-julie-anne-long/1102006654" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/what-i-did-for-a-duke-pennyroyal-green-series" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/what-i-did-for-a-duke/id400622054" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780061885686" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</p><p>Enter the <a href="https://read.macmillan.com/promo/fatedmatesletscallatruceaudiosweeps" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Macmillan Audio sweepstakes</a> to win one of five free audiobook copies of Jenny Elder Moke's <em>She Doesn't Have a Clue</em>.</p><h2>The Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3PT8b0k" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Temperance</a> by Cassia Leo&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40PnY6I" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Queen of Wands</a> by Suzanne Halliday</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4h9z8cb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Five of Cups</a> by TriciaWolf&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3E9O4st" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Outsider</a> by Cora Brent</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Ed95Cm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Lovers</a> by Rebekah Faubian</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3WBaZTA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">In on the Action</a> by Elle Diaz</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3CbSgaw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Arcana Chronicles</a> by Kresley Cole</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42vKe6N" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lord Lightning</a> by Jenny Brown</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42ugyqN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lunar Love</a> Laura Kung Jessen</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ay4Ayh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Seducing The Colonel’s Daughter</a> by Amy Andrews</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4aABn5T" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Written in the Stars</a> by Alexandria Bellefleur</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42w0gxD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Kismat Connection</a> by Ananya Devarajan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3WBDEYF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Baron</a> by Joanna Shupe</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40BZooq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Wicked Deeds of Daniel Mackenzie</a> by Jennifer Ashley</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40CxFUT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Proof by Seduction</a> by Courtney Milan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42tWGEk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sensing Danger</a> by Wendy Vella</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4awNyR4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Carolina Moon</a> by Nora Roberts</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3CpBrZy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Third Circle</a> By Amanda Quick</li></ul><br/><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li>Eric listens to the ATP (Accidental Tech Podcast) and this week, <a href="https://atp.fm/623" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">they gave a little pep talk</a>. It helped us to remember we aren’t alone. It’s not going to be easy and lots of people are going to be hurt. But we are a community and we love you.&nbsp;</li><li>BTW, that's Marco Arment doing most of the talking at the beginning of the ATP episode. He's the creator of our favorite podcast app, <a href="https://overcast.fm/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Overcast</a>. </li><li>We did <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/6/24/s0642-witchy-romances-are-not-just-for-halloween" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a witchy episode</a> this past summer.&nbsp;</li><li>Maybe you want to <a href="https://www.thecut.com/article/tarot-cards.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">learn about tarot. </a>The <a href="https://www.cardsofloveromance.com/choose-your-card-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cards of Love series</a> has a very nice website that is still functioning. </li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Jillian David</strong>, author of <em>Dr. Alaska, </em>available in print or ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/4aAXoBI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dr-alaska-jillian-david/1146391751?ean=9781965640678" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/dr-alaska" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/dr-alaska/id6736961084" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781965640678" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Macmilllan Audio</strong>, publishers of <em>She Doesn't Have a Clue</em> by Jenny Elder Moke, read by Sarah Mollo-Christensen, available from <a href="https://amzn.to/42uTCrl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Audible</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/she-doesn-t-have-a-clue" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/she-doesnt-have-a-clue/id6497335209" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/she-doesnt-have-a-clue-jenny-elder-moke/1145594189?ean=2940192564707" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://libro.fm/audiobooks/9781250388346-she-doesn-t-have-a-clue" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Libro.fm</a> or wherever you get your audiobooks. <strong>Enter the </strong><a href="https://read.macmillan.com/promo/shedoesnthaveaclueaudiosweeps" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Macmillan Audio sweepstakes</strong></a><strong> to win one of five free copies of this audiobook.</strong></li><li><strong>Avery Maxwell</strong>, author of <em>The Renegade Billionaire</em>, available in print or ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/4hdDRK6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We'll be honest, we don't know what the heck is going on, either. If we could find someone or something to make all this chaos make sense, we'd be very very happy. And so, we're reading books this week about people and things that make sense of chaos--that realign the universe. It's tarot, astrology and psychics this week!</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p>Our next read along is Julie Anne Long's <em>What I Did For a Duke</em>, available in print, ebook and audio at <a href="https://amzn.to/3WuoeWi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/what-i-did-for-a-duke-julie-anne-long/1102006654" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/what-i-did-for-a-duke-pennyroyal-green-series" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/what-i-did-for-a-duke/id400622054" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780061885686" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</p><p>Enter the <a href="https://read.macmillan.com/promo/fatedmatesletscallatruceaudiosweeps" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Macmillan Audio sweepstakes</a> to win one of five free audiobook copies of Jenny Elder Moke's <em>She Doesn't Have a Clue</em>.</p><h2>The Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3PT8b0k" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Temperance</a> by Cassia Leo&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40PnY6I" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Queen of Wands</a> by Suzanne Halliday</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4h9z8cb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Five of Cups</a> by TriciaWolf&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3E9O4st" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Outsider</a> by Cora Brent</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Ed95Cm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Lovers</a> by Rebekah Faubian</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3WBaZTA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">In on the Action</a> by Elle Diaz</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3CbSgaw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Arcana Chronicles</a> by Kresley Cole</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42vKe6N" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lord Lightning</a> by Jenny Brown</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42ugyqN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lunar Love</a> Laura Kung Jessen</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ay4Ayh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Seducing The Colonel’s Daughter</a> by Amy Andrews</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4aABn5T" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Written in the Stars</a> by Alexandria Bellefleur</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42w0gxD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Kismat Connection</a> by Ananya Devarajan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3WBDEYF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Baron</a> by Joanna Shupe</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40BZooq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Wicked Deeds of Daniel Mackenzie</a> by Jennifer Ashley</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40CxFUT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Proof by Seduction</a> by Courtney Milan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42tWGEk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sensing Danger</a> by Wendy Vella</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4awNyR4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Carolina Moon</a> by Nora Roberts</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3CpBrZy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Third Circle</a> By Amanda Quick</li></ul><br/><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li>Eric listens to the ATP (Accidental Tech Podcast) and this week, <a href="https://atp.fm/623" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">they gave a little pep talk</a>. It helped us to remember we aren’t alone. It’s not going to be easy and lots of people are going to be hurt. But we are a community and we love you.&nbsp;</li><li>BTW, that's Marco Arment doing most of the talking at the beginning of the ATP episode. He's the creator of our favorite podcast app, <a href="https://overcast.fm/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Overcast</a>. </li><li>We did <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/6/24/s0642-witchy-romances-are-not-just-for-halloween" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a witchy episode</a> this past summer.&nbsp;</li><li>Maybe you want to <a href="https://www.thecut.com/article/tarot-cards.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">learn about tarot. </a>The <a href="https://www.cardsofloveromance.com/choose-your-card-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cards of Love series</a> has a very nice website that is still functioning. </li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Jillian David</strong>, author of <em>Dr. Alaska, </em>available in print or ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/4aAXoBI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dr-alaska-jillian-david/1146391751?ean=9781965640678" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/dr-alaska" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/dr-alaska/id6736961084" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781965640678" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Macmilllan Audio</strong>, publishers of <em>She Doesn't Have a Clue</em> by Jenny Elder Moke, read by Sarah Mollo-Christensen, available from <a href="https://amzn.to/42uTCrl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Audible</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/she-doesn-t-have-a-clue" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/she-doesnt-have-a-clue/id6497335209" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/she-doesnt-have-a-clue-jenny-elder-moke/1145594189?ean=2940192564707" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://libro.fm/audiobooks/9781250388346-she-doesn-t-have-a-clue" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Libro.fm</a> or wherever you get your audiobooks. <strong>Enter the </strong><a href="https://read.macmillan.com/promo/shedoesnthaveaclueaudiosweeps" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Macmillan Audio sweepstakes</strong></a><strong> to win one of five free copies of this audiobook.</strong></li><li><strong>Avery Maxwell</strong>, author of <em>The Renegade Billionaire</em>, available in print or ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/4hdDRK6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/1/27/i9qkz335n954q434vzzdgolgoi31na]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">ad13d338-3e86-4b4a-a295-8efa57b733c4</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 27 Jan 2025 07:31:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/9b29d6e5-4833-4d25-8239-6189206c09be/FATED-MATES-TAROT.mp3" length="93220946" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:36:40</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>22</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>22</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-9b29d6e5-4833-4d25-8239-6189206c09be.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S07:19 Back in Time with Harlequin Blaze</title><itunes:title>Back in Time with Harlequin Blaze</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We're getting into the romance time machine and setting the course for 2001, when Harlequin decided that those Temptations could get scorching hot and become a <em>Blaze</em>. We scoured ebay for boxes and boxes of old Blazes, dug deep into the back catalogues of our Kindles, and are celebrating the OG one-handed read, the Harlequin Blaze. We had a great time, but we knew what to expect -- if you need content warnings, make sure you check them. And let us know if you want us to explore some other category lines!</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p>Our next read along is Julie Anne Long's <em>What I Did For a Duke</em>, available in print, ebook and audio at <a href="https://amzn.to/3WuoeWi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/what-i-did-for-a-duke-julie-anne-long/1102006654" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/what-i-did-for-a-duke-pennyroyal-green-series" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/what-i-did-for-a-duke/id400622054" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780061885686" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</p><h2>The Books </h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jiqg5w" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Her Naughty Holiday</a> by Tiffany Reisz</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40Jc7XG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Getting Physical</a> by Jade Lee&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42jghqH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Just Watch Me</a> Julie Leto</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4arJSA6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Too Wicked to Keep</a> by Julie Leto</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hgfhYM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Anything Goes</a> by Debbi Rawlins</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3WtaSJH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Fantasy Factor</a> by Kimberly Raye</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4h2OgIs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Whisper</a> by Nancy Warren</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3PKcN9e" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shameless</a> by Toni Carrington</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4h3Nsmq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What a Girl Wants</a> by Jamie Sobrato</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3C81ynT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Silent Desires</a> by Julie Kenner</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40pj4Mn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Certified Male</a> by Kristin Hardy</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3CqQfXO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hot Island Nights</a> by Sarah Mayberry</li></ul><br/><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li>Sarah is teaching her beginner <a href="https://sarahmaclean.net/writing-romance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Start Your Romance Today class</a> virtually on February 23rd at 1pm eastern.</li><li>What is a category romance? Maybe <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/1/17/518-harlequin-category-romance-interstitialto" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">listen to our episode from season 5</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/series/harlequin-blaze~14033.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Blaze line</a>, from 2001-2017, was a spin off from <a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/series/harlequin-temptation~14072.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Harlequin Temptation</a> line. <a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/series/harlequin-kimani-romance~14051.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Kimani romance line</a> ran from 2006 to 2019.</li><li>We had an episode about <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/11/19/s0412-the-men-at-work-trilogy-by-tiffany-reisz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tiffany Reisz’s Men at Work trilogy,</a> a 2016 Blaze series, back in season 4.</li><li><a href="https://www.strandbooks.com/events/event21825" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Join Sarah with Rebecca Romney at The Strand’s rare book room on Feb 18, 2025</a> to celebrate the release of Rebecca’s book, <em>Jane Austen’s Bookshelf</em>. </li><li>Jen is SCREAMING because the sequel to <em>Certified Male</em>? <a href="https://amzn.to/4jpUtja" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">You guessed it.</a>&nbsp;</li><li>If you read <em>Hot Island Nights</em> first, go back and check out <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/5/8/s0534-her-best-worst-mistake-by-sarah-mayberry" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Her Best Worst Mistake.</a> </li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>J. Winifred Butterworth</strong>, author of <em>A Bloomy Head</em>, available in ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/4jqePbV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-bloomy-head-j-winifred-butterworth/1146662132?ean=2940184537818" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/a-bloomy-head" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/a-bloomy-head/id6739261078" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or wherever you get your books.</li><li><strong>Jill Shalvis</strong>, author of <em>Better than Friends, </em>available in print, ebook or audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/3C878Xn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/better-than-friends-jill-shalvis/1145513886?ean=9780063353381" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/better-than-friends-6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/better-than-friends/id6499494813" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063353435" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Macmilllan Audio</strong>, publishers of <em>Let's Call A Truce</em>, by Amy Buchanan, and read by Charlotte North, available from <a href="https://amzn.to/4g6ZPwX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Audible</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/audiobook/let-s-call-a-truce-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/audiobook/lets-call-a-truce/id1748597089" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/lets-call-a-truce-amy-buchanan/1145317554?ean=2940192754900" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://libro.fm/audiobooks/9781250388650-let-s-call-a-truce" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Libro.fm</a> or wherever you get your audiobooks. Enter the <a href="https://read.macmillan.com/promo/fatedmatesletscallatruceaudiosweeps" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Macmillan Audio sweepstakes</a> to win one of five free copies of this audiobook.</li><li><strong>Maureen Lee Lenker</strong>, author of <em>His Girl Hollywood</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/3WsAMNW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/his-girl-hollywood-maureen-lee-lenker/1143940799?ean=9781728267913" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/his-girl-hollywood" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/his-girl-hollywood/id6462336560" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781728267913" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li></ul><br/><p>00:01 Sarah's Romance Class</p><p>01:31 Bantr</p><p>06:25 Pour One Out for Harlequin Blaze</p><p>15:12 AD: LET’S CALL A TRUCE</p><p>17:51 The Segregation of Harlequin Lines</p><p>27:11 Sex in Harlequin Blaze</p><p>33:19 Plot, Character, and Tropes</p><p>36:45 AD: HIS GIRL HOLLYWOOD</p><p>38:52 Just Watch Me</p><p>42:26 Too Wicked to Keep</p><p>47:58 Up to No Good</p><p>50:35 Anything Goes &amp; the Fantasy Factor</p><p>53:17 Gender Essentialism &amp; Consent</p><p>55:55 Whisper</p><p>1:00:23 AD: A BLOOMY HEAD</p><p>1:03:06 Shameless</p><p>1:07:20 What a Girl Wants</p><p>1:12:16 Play With Me</p><p>1:17:24 AD: BETTER THAN FRIENDS</p><p>1:19:22 Guess the Title!</p><p>1:27:36 Hot Island Nights</p><p>1:37:33 Outro</p><p>1:39:02 AD: LET’S CALL A TRUCE</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We're getting into the romance time machine and setting the course for 2001, when Harlequin decided that those Temptations could get scorching hot and become a <em>Blaze</em>. We scoured ebay for boxes and boxes of old Blazes, dug deep into the back catalogues of our Kindles, and are celebrating the OG one-handed read, the Harlequin Blaze. We had a great time, but we knew what to expect -- if you need content warnings, make sure you check them. And let us know if you want us to explore some other category lines!</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p>Our next read along is Julie Anne Long's <em>What I Did For a Duke</em>, available in print, ebook and audio at <a href="https://amzn.to/3WuoeWi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/what-i-did-for-a-duke-julie-anne-long/1102006654" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/what-i-did-for-a-duke-pennyroyal-green-series" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/what-i-did-for-a-duke/id400622054" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780061885686" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</p><h2>The Books </h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jiqg5w" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Her Naughty Holiday</a> by Tiffany Reisz</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40Jc7XG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Getting Physical</a> by Jade Lee&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42jghqH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Just Watch Me</a> Julie Leto</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4arJSA6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Too Wicked to Keep</a> by Julie Leto</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hgfhYM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Anything Goes</a> by Debbi Rawlins</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3WtaSJH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Fantasy Factor</a> by Kimberly Raye</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4h2OgIs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Whisper</a> by Nancy Warren</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3PKcN9e" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shameless</a> by Toni Carrington</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4h3Nsmq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What a Girl Wants</a> by Jamie Sobrato</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3C81ynT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Silent Desires</a> by Julie Kenner</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40pj4Mn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Certified Male</a> by Kristin Hardy</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3CqQfXO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hot Island Nights</a> by Sarah Mayberry</li></ul><br/><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li>Sarah is teaching her beginner <a href="https://sarahmaclean.net/writing-romance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Start Your Romance Today class</a> virtually on February 23rd at 1pm eastern.</li><li>What is a category romance? Maybe <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/1/17/518-harlequin-category-romance-interstitialto" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">listen to our episode from season 5</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/series/harlequin-blaze~14033.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Blaze line</a>, from 2001-2017, was a spin off from <a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/series/harlequin-temptation~14072.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Harlequin Temptation</a> line. <a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/series/harlequin-kimani-romance~14051.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Kimani romance line</a> ran from 2006 to 2019.</li><li>We had an episode about <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/11/19/s0412-the-men-at-work-trilogy-by-tiffany-reisz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tiffany Reisz’s Men at Work trilogy,</a> a 2016 Blaze series, back in season 4.</li><li><a href="https://www.strandbooks.com/events/event21825" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Join Sarah with Rebecca Romney at The Strand’s rare book room on Feb 18, 2025</a> to celebrate the release of Rebecca’s book, <em>Jane Austen’s Bookshelf</em>. </li><li>Jen is SCREAMING because the sequel to <em>Certified Male</em>? <a href="https://amzn.to/4jpUtja" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">You guessed it.</a>&nbsp;</li><li>If you read <em>Hot Island Nights</em> first, go back and check out <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/5/8/s0534-her-best-worst-mistake-by-sarah-mayberry" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Her Best Worst Mistake.</a> </li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>J. Winifred Butterworth</strong>, author of <em>A Bloomy Head</em>, available in ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/4jqePbV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-bloomy-head-j-winifred-butterworth/1146662132?ean=2940184537818" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/a-bloomy-head" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/a-bloomy-head/id6739261078" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or wherever you get your books.</li><li><strong>Jill Shalvis</strong>, author of <em>Better than Friends, </em>available in print, ebook or audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/3C878Xn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/better-than-friends-jill-shalvis/1145513886?ean=9780063353381" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/better-than-friends-6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/better-than-friends/id6499494813" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063353435" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Macmilllan Audio</strong>, publishers of <em>Let's Call A Truce</em>, by Amy Buchanan, and read by Charlotte North, available from <a href="https://amzn.to/4g6ZPwX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Audible</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/audiobook/let-s-call-a-truce-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/audiobook/lets-call-a-truce/id1748597089" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/lets-call-a-truce-amy-buchanan/1145317554?ean=2940192754900" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://libro.fm/audiobooks/9781250388650-let-s-call-a-truce" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Libro.fm</a> or wherever you get your audiobooks. Enter the <a href="https://read.macmillan.com/promo/fatedmatesletscallatruceaudiosweeps" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Macmillan Audio sweepstakes</a> to win one of five free copies of this audiobook.</li><li><strong>Maureen Lee Lenker</strong>, author of <em>His Girl Hollywood</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/3WsAMNW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/his-girl-hollywood-maureen-lee-lenker/1143940799?ean=9781728267913" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/his-girl-hollywood" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/his-girl-hollywood/id6462336560" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781728267913" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li></ul><br/><p>00:01 Sarah's Romance Class</p><p>01:31 Bantr</p><p>06:25 Pour One Out for Harlequin Blaze</p><p>15:12 AD: LET’S CALL A TRUCE</p><p>17:51 The Segregation of Harlequin Lines</p><p>27:11 Sex in Harlequin Blaze</p><p>33:19 Plot, Character, and Tropes</p><p>36:45 AD: HIS GIRL HOLLYWOOD</p><p>38:52 Just Watch Me</p><p>42:26 Too Wicked to Keep</p><p>47:58 Up to No Good</p><p>50:35 Anything Goes &amp; the Fantasy Factor</p><p>53:17 Gender Essentialism &amp; Consent</p><p>55:55 Whisper</p><p>1:00:23 AD: A BLOOMY HEAD</p><p>1:03:06 Shameless</p><p>1:07:20 What a Girl Wants</p><p>1:12:16 Play With Me</p><p>1:17:24 AD: BETTER THAN FRIENDS</p><p>1:19:22 Guess the Title!</p><p>1:27:36 Hot Island Nights</p><p>1:37:33 Outro</p><p>1:39:02 AD: LET’S CALL A TRUCE</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/1/21/s0719-back-in-time-with-harlequin-blaze]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">8f770bf7-3dc1-4300-b537-14b4795c5c1e</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 21 Jan 2025 12:45:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/babc7182-e531-4634-b331-2a9cfa8bd1d4/fated-mates-back-in-time-with-blaze.mp3" length="100061862" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:43:48</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>21</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>21</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-babc7182-e531-4634-b331-2a9cfa8bd1d4.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S07:18 Winter 2025 New Releases: The Quarterly Edging Episode</title><itunes:title>Winter 2025 New Releases: The Quarterly Edging Episode</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We're toppling TBR piles and preorder lists today with our quarterly "Books we're excited to read" list! We're name-checking more than 50 romance novels we're looking forward to, and looking forward to hearing about the ones you're waiting for, too! If you're a romance novelist and have a book coming this year, please head over and <a href="https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScExMU79EvI0oWzQtKmBEcQbFow0SoZ2TxXk67NNyI3DWFHxA/viewform?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fill out this Google form</a> to let us know!</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><h1>The Notes</h1><ul><li>Los Angeles, we are thinking of you. </li><li>After our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/1/15/s0618-firefighter-romance-novels" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">very silly firefighter episode</a>, we chatted with magnificent firebird and wildland firefighter, Emma, who gave us the lay of the land as a woman firefighter. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elfG4z8eq6s" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">You can listen to that conversation on YouTube</a>.  </li><li>Emma recommends the following resources: the <a href="https://www.instagram.com/grassrootswildlandfirefighters/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Grassroots Wildland Firefighters</a> account on Instagram, and you can make donations to the <a href="https://wffoundation.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wildland Firefighter Foundation</a>. If you are looking for factual, reliable information, check out the website of the <a href="https://www.nifc.gov/fire-information" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">National Interagency Fire Center</a>, inciweb is the <a href="https://inciweb.wildfire.gov/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">national situation report</a> with information from wildland firefighters. If you are looking to make donations to aid those impacted by the fires, we recommend <a href="https://wck.org/news/meal-locations-ca" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">World Central Kitchen</a>, <a href="https://donate.baby2baby.org/give/648067/#!/donation/checkout" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Baby2Baby</a>, the <a href="https://give.pasadenahumane.org/give/654134/#!/donation/checkout" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pasadena Humane Society</a>, and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/octavias_bookshelf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Octavia’s Bookshelf</a> which has details mutual aid collection efforts on their Instagram. <a href="https://www.instagram.com/therippedbodice/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Ripped Bodice </a>has free wifi and period products .</li><li>If you have a 2025 release you have written or you are a reader looking forward to something this year, please <a href="https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScExMU79EvI0oWzQtKmBEcQbFow0SoZ2TxXk67NNyI3DWFHxA/viewform?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">use our handy form to submit books for upcoming episodes</a> in spring, summer, and fall.</li><li>For more Romantasy recs, follow Jen’s friend <a href="https://www.instagram.com/gabriella.guava?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&amp;igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw==" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gabriella Guava on Instagram.</a></li></ul><br/><h1>The Books</h1><h2>January </h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3PwaCGb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Empire of Temptation</a> by Mila Finelli&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4fTtREd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Beg, Borrow, or Steal</a> by Sarah Adams</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jcVkni" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Flirting with Disaster</a> by Naina Kumar&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3C8oeEi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Let’s Call a Truce</a> by Amy Buchanan&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gOEUjp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book People</a> by Jackie Ashenden</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40vA5FO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">His Girl Hollywood</a> by Maureen Lee Lenker</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42bBAdu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Relationship Mechanic</a> by Karmen Lee</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3PzbCZX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shifting Gears</a> by Jazz Forrester</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4fRcMec" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">She Doesn’t Have a Clue</a> Jenny Elder Moke</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ahuqqi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Better than Friends</a> by Jill Shalvis</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3PTVu5L" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Naked Truth</a> by Sandy Lowe&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4aeNdm2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Yin Yang Love Song</a> by Lauren Kung Jessen</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3PzVYxs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Best Mistake Ever</a> by Christy McKellan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4fR29YV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fighting for Berlin</a> by Katie Reus</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3E3cnYF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Immortal</a> by Sue Lynn Tan</li><li><a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/malcolm-45?srsltid=AfmBOopHv4KlAzOaayM5T_bxaCNI2FD7Rz_1JCqDWMVSE5g1zymljSI5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Malcolm</a> by Margot Bond Collins</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gR9k4A" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Unromance</a> by Erin Connor</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gRPjuG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">My Inconvenient Duke</a> by Loretta Chase</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40uKj9o" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">3000 Reasons to Stay</a> by Jaime P. Bradley</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40lz1Ds" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Strike and Burn</a> by Taylor Hutton</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jiDvmX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Into the Woods</a> by Jenny Holiday</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hfQG5Z" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Duke’s Guide to Fake Courtship</a> by Jade Lee</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ag5pM2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Broposal</a> by Sonora Reyes</li></ul><br/><h2>February</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3WbRL6L" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Tropical Rebel gets the Duke</a> by Adriana Herrera</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42c0JF3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Deep End</a> by Ali Hazelwood</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40GNj2V" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Never Gamble Your Heart </a>by Lindsay Lovise</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4adWcnq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Mafia King’s Sister</a> by P Rayne</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jgYMgw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Frenemies with Benefits</a> by Synithia Williams</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4j7d5o9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Unloved</a> by Peyton Corinne</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4h4hBBU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">First Time Caller</a> by BK Borrison</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42c0TMF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">On Screen and Off Again</a> by Caitlin Cross</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3DUoYNU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">I Got Abducted by Aliens and Now I’m Trapped in a Romcom</a> by Kimberly Lemming</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gOiVJi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wooing the Witch Queen</a> by Stephanie Burgis</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gRZXSf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">No Saint</a> by Donna Alam</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3WfYRY2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Devils Charm</a> by Megan Frampton</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4akcrQa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Love Lyric</a> by Kristina Forest</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Wig9DZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Break Point</a> by Yahrah St. John</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42bSOYb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Losing Sight</a> by Tati Richardson</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42eq8Om" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rebel Witch</a> by Kristen Ciccarelli</li></ul><br/><h2>March</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42g9NJ1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Trouble with Anna</a> by Rachel Griffiths</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4fRhXe8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Take a Chance on Me</a> by Elizabeth Eulbert</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hdLnUJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Gentleman’s Gentleman</a> by TJ Alexander</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4fU7u1t" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Shots You Take</a> by Rachel Reid</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40wCiRu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">One in a Million</a> Beverly Kendall</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40fNRLv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">And They Had a Great Fall</a> by Shelby Saville</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4fYWy2L" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Unlikely Story</a> by Ali Rosen&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4fVh04v" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fan Service</a> by Rosie Danan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3CgceAD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Big Fix</a> by Holly James</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40ifDqG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jane and Dan at the End of the World</a> by Colleen Oakley</li><li><a...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We're toppling TBR piles and preorder lists today with our quarterly "Books we're excited to read" list! We're name-checking more than 50 romance novels we're looking forward to, and looking forward to hearing about the ones you're waiting for, too! If you're a romance novelist and have a book coming this year, please head over and <a href="https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScExMU79EvI0oWzQtKmBEcQbFow0SoZ2TxXk67NNyI3DWFHxA/viewform?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fill out this Google form</a> to let us know!</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><h1>The Notes</h1><ul><li>Los Angeles, we are thinking of you. </li><li>After our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/1/15/s0618-firefighter-romance-novels" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">very silly firefighter episode</a>, we chatted with magnificent firebird and wildland firefighter, Emma, who gave us the lay of the land as a woman firefighter. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elfG4z8eq6s" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">You can listen to that conversation on YouTube</a>.  </li><li>Emma recommends the following resources: the <a href="https://www.instagram.com/grassrootswildlandfirefighters/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Grassroots Wildland Firefighters</a> account on Instagram, and you can make donations to the <a href="https://wffoundation.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wildland Firefighter Foundation</a>. If you are looking for factual, reliable information, check out the website of the <a href="https://www.nifc.gov/fire-information" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">National Interagency Fire Center</a>, inciweb is the <a href="https://inciweb.wildfire.gov/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">national situation report</a> with information from wildland firefighters. If you are looking to make donations to aid those impacted by the fires, we recommend <a href="https://wck.org/news/meal-locations-ca" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">World Central Kitchen</a>, <a href="https://donate.baby2baby.org/give/648067/#!/donation/checkout" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Baby2Baby</a>, the <a href="https://give.pasadenahumane.org/give/654134/#!/donation/checkout" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pasadena Humane Society</a>, and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/octavias_bookshelf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Octavia’s Bookshelf</a> which has details mutual aid collection efforts on their Instagram. <a href="https://www.instagram.com/therippedbodice/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Ripped Bodice </a>has free wifi and period products .</li><li>If you have a 2025 release you have written or you are a reader looking forward to something this year, please <a href="https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScExMU79EvI0oWzQtKmBEcQbFow0SoZ2TxXk67NNyI3DWFHxA/viewform?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">use our handy form to submit books for upcoming episodes</a> in spring, summer, and fall.</li><li>For more Romantasy recs, follow Jen’s friend <a href="https://www.instagram.com/gabriella.guava?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&amp;igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw==" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gabriella Guava on Instagram.</a></li></ul><br/><h1>The Books</h1><h2>January </h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3PwaCGb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Empire of Temptation</a> by Mila Finelli&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4fTtREd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Beg, Borrow, or Steal</a> by Sarah Adams</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jcVkni" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Flirting with Disaster</a> by Naina Kumar&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3C8oeEi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Let’s Call a Truce</a> by Amy Buchanan&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gOEUjp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book People</a> by Jackie Ashenden</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40vA5FO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">His Girl Hollywood</a> by Maureen Lee Lenker</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42bBAdu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Relationship Mechanic</a> by Karmen Lee</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3PzbCZX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shifting Gears</a> by Jazz Forrester</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4fRcMec" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">She Doesn’t Have a Clue</a> Jenny Elder Moke</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ahuqqi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Better than Friends</a> by Jill Shalvis</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3PTVu5L" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Naked Truth</a> by Sandy Lowe&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4aeNdm2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Yin Yang Love Song</a> by Lauren Kung Jessen</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3PzVYxs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Best Mistake Ever</a> by Christy McKellan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4fR29YV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fighting for Berlin</a> by Katie Reus</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3E3cnYF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Immortal</a> by Sue Lynn Tan</li><li><a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/malcolm-45?srsltid=AfmBOopHv4KlAzOaayM5T_bxaCNI2FD7Rz_1JCqDWMVSE5g1zymljSI5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Malcolm</a> by Margot Bond Collins</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gR9k4A" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Unromance</a> by Erin Connor</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gRPjuG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">My Inconvenient Duke</a> by Loretta Chase</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40uKj9o" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">3000 Reasons to Stay</a> by Jaime P. Bradley</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40lz1Ds" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Strike and Burn</a> by Taylor Hutton</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jiDvmX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Into the Woods</a> by Jenny Holiday</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hfQG5Z" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Duke’s Guide to Fake Courtship</a> by Jade Lee</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ag5pM2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Broposal</a> by Sonora Reyes</li></ul><br/><h2>February</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3WbRL6L" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Tropical Rebel gets the Duke</a> by Adriana Herrera</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42c0JF3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Deep End</a> by Ali Hazelwood</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40GNj2V" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Never Gamble Your Heart </a>by Lindsay Lovise</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4adWcnq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Mafia King’s Sister</a> by P Rayne</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jgYMgw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Frenemies with Benefits</a> by Synithia Williams</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4j7d5o9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Unloved</a> by Peyton Corinne</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4h4hBBU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">First Time Caller</a> by BK Borrison</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42c0TMF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">On Screen and Off Again</a> by Caitlin Cross</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3DUoYNU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">I Got Abducted by Aliens and Now I’m Trapped in a Romcom</a> by Kimberly Lemming</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gOiVJi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wooing the Witch Queen</a> by Stephanie Burgis</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gRZXSf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">No Saint</a> by Donna Alam</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3WfYRY2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Devils Charm</a> by Megan Frampton</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4akcrQa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Love Lyric</a> by Kristina Forest</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Wig9DZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Break Point</a> by Yahrah St. John</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42bSOYb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Losing Sight</a> by Tati Richardson</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42eq8Om" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rebel Witch</a> by Kristen Ciccarelli</li></ul><br/><h2>March</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/42g9NJ1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Trouble with Anna</a> by Rachel Griffiths</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4fRhXe8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Take a Chance on Me</a> by Elizabeth Eulbert</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hdLnUJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Gentleman’s Gentleman</a> by TJ Alexander</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4fU7u1t" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Shots You Take</a> by Rachel Reid</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40wCiRu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">One in a Million</a> Beverly Kendall</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40fNRLv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">And They Had a Great Fall</a> by Shelby Saville</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4fYWy2L" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Unlikely Story</a> by Ali Rosen&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4fVh04v" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fan Service</a> by Rosie Danan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3CgceAD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Big Fix</a> by Holly James</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40ifDqG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jane and Dan at the End of the World</a> by Colleen Oakley</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40wCvUM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Wager at Midnight</a> by Vanessa Riley</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40GNOdj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Circle of Uncommon Witches</a> by Paige Crutcher</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4jt7Mj5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Lady Sparks a Flame</a> by Elizabeth Everett</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4fUU6dC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chaos</a> by Constance Fay</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3DUuf8a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Just Our Luck</a> by Denise Williams</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3WkjC54" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Something Cheeky</a> Thien-Kim Lam</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40uC653" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Go Luck Yourself</a> by Sara Raash</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hfY2GX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Code Word Romance</a> by Carlie Walker</li></ul><br/><h1>The Sponsors</h1><ul><li><strong>Jamie P. Bradley</strong>, author of <em>3000 Reasons to Stay</em>, available in print or ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/4gRKams" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/3000-reasons-to-stay-jaime-p-bradley/1146721412?ean=9798991950725" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/ww/en/ebook/3000-reasons-to-stay" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/3000-reasons-to-stay/id6739718239" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9798991950725" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>1001 Dark Nights</strong>, publishers of<em> Love Rekindled: A Second-Chance Romance Collection</em> from Tessa Bailey, Sawyer Bennett, Alexandra Ivy, Corinne Michaels, and Kennedy Ryan. Available in print or ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/3DPOmEs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>. </li><li><strong>Jenni Bara</strong>, author of <em>Mother Maker</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook, <a href="https://amzn.to/4gVT81O" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/mother-maker-jenni-bara/21119956?ean=9781959389088" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/1/13/winter-2025-new-releases-the-quarterly-edging-episode]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">f6629207-417b-4882-bd2a-06948caea39a</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2025 16:42:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/b75170e6-5a8e-4a0d-9472-fddf2ae2e733/FATED-MATES-WINTER-2025.mp3" length="100283704" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:44:02</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>19</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>19</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-b75170e6-5a8e-4a0d-9472-fddf2ae2e733.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S07.17: The Proposition by Judith Ivory</title><itunes:title>The Proposition by Judith Ivory</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Happy New Year, Magnificent Firebirds! We don’t know what 2025 is going to bring, so we’re starting with a bang—the long awaited deep-dive of Judith Ivory's <em>The Proposition</em>, featuring that rakish rat catcher, that ferret-loving firebrand, the man himself, Mr. Mick Tremore! We’re talking sexual tension so overwhelming it makes a girl cry, horse-faced ladies who bring men to their knees, kissing on omnibuses and legs! All that, and Sarah and Jen disagree heartily on the issue of mustaches, but agree heartily that lionhearted virility is the energy we want this year.&nbsp;</p><p>Get the book at your local independent bookseller, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-proposition-judith-ivory/1103372700" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-proposition-49" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-proposition/id6462700133" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://amzn.to/40EipbH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>. </p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li>We did some holiday movie watching, as one does: Moonstruck, Sleepless in Seattle, and some scenes in particular were great to watch with our kids, <a href="https://youtu.be/bhwGPwDbbRM?si=KZjCLOIdZIMSh0v5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the bus scene in Almost Famous</a> and the <a href="https://youtu.be/r14rDavjUWw?si=huARdGZG6H23EwYj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">underwear scene in Bridget Jones’s Diary</a>.</li><li>Lil Romance and Jen also watched When Harry Met Sally. There’s a new book called Nora Ephron at the Movies you might like, and <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@meccavellii/video/7145529681633185067" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this TikTok is great</a>. Sometimes I just find cool stuff when I’m working on show notes, like <a href="https://www.vulture.com/article/how-when-harry-met-sally-used-visual-spacing.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this 2014 article from The Cut about the visual storytelling in When Harry Met Sally.</a>&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolodex" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A rolodex, </a>including <a href="https://www.vulture.com/2016/12/carrie-fisher-when-harry-met-sally-scene.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Marie’s portable version</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Sarah was wrong about <a href="https://www.delilah.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nightime radio host Delilah</a>, but you know. We aren’t apologizing for anything in 2025.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/author/judith-ivory~8255.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Judith Ivory</a> published 6 historicals, and then another 4 as <a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/author/judy-cuevas~1696.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Judy Cuevas</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>The Proposition is a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pygmalion_(play)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pygmalion</a>/<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Fair_Lady_(film)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">My Fair Lady</a> retelling with a side of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trading_Places" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Trading Places</a>.</li><li>Do we think the dormouse is <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/5/9/s0338-ravishing-the-heiress-by-sherry-thomas" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ravishing the Heiress</a> was inspired by Mick?</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/eUDcTLaWJuo?feature=shared" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Legs</a> is a ZZ Top song</li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Mila Finelli</strong>, author of <em>Empire of Temptation</em>, available in print, ebook, audiobook or <a href="https://amzn.to/3PnC1dk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>A.E. Merriweather</strong>, author of <em>Marin in the Moonlight</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook, from <a href="https://amzn.to/4gPDVzC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/marin-in-the-moonlight-a-e-merriweather/1146297872?ean=9798991070614" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/marin-in-the-moonlight/id6686407627" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/marin-in-the-moonlight-a-e-merriweather/21956577?ean=9798991070614" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Max Monroe</strong>, author of <em>What I Should've Said</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook at Amazon, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/what-i-shouldve-said-max-monroe/1145454443?ean=9798989524242" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/what-i-should-ve-said-max-monroe/21373597?ean=9798989524242" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local indie</a>, or <a href="https://amzn.to/4h6LKR6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy New Year, Magnificent Firebirds! We don’t know what 2025 is going to bring, so we’re starting with a bang—the long awaited deep-dive of Judith Ivory's <em>The Proposition</em>, featuring that rakish rat catcher, that ferret-loving firebrand, the man himself, Mr. Mick Tremore! We’re talking sexual tension so overwhelming it makes a girl cry, horse-faced ladies who bring men to their knees, kissing on omnibuses and legs! All that, and Sarah and Jen disagree heartily on the issue of mustaches, but agree heartily that lionhearted virility is the energy we want this year.&nbsp;</p><p>Get the book at your local independent bookseller, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-proposition-judith-ivory/1103372700" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-proposition-49" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-proposition/id6462700133" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://amzn.to/40EipbH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>. </p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li>We did some holiday movie watching, as one does: Moonstruck, Sleepless in Seattle, and some scenes in particular were great to watch with our kids, <a href="https://youtu.be/bhwGPwDbbRM?si=KZjCLOIdZIMSh0v5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the bus scene in Almost Famous</a> and the <a href="https://youtu.be/r14rDavjUWw?si=huARdGZG6H23EwYj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">underwear scene in Bridget Jones’s Diary</a>.</li><li>Lil Romance and Jen also watched When Harry Met Sally. There’s a new book called Nora Ephron at the Movies you might like, and <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@meccavellii/video/7145529681633185067" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this TikTok is great</a>. Sometimes I just find cool stuff when I’m working on show notes, like <a href="https://www.vulture.com/article/how-when-harry-met-sally-used-visual-spacing.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this 2014 article from The Cut about the visual storytelling in When Harry Met Sally.</a>&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolodex" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A rolodex, </a>including <a href="https://www.vulture.com/2016/12/carrie-fisher-when-harry-met-sally-scene.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Marie’s portable version</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Sarah was wrong about <a href="https://www.delilah.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nightime radio host Delilah</a>, but you know. We aren’t apologizing for anything in 2025.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/author/judith-ivory~8255.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Judith Ivory</a> published 6 historicals, and then another 4 as <a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/author/judy-cuevas~1696.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Judy Cuevas</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>The Proposition is a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pygmalion_(play)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pygmalion</a>/<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Fair_Lady_(film)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">My Fair Lady</a> retelling with a side of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trading_Places" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Trading Places</a>.</li><li>Do we think the dormouse is <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/5/9/s0338-ravishing-the-heiress-by-sherry-thomas" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ravishing the Heiress</a> was inspired by Mick?</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/eUDcTLaWJuo?feature=shared" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Legs</a> is a ZZ Top song</li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Mila Finelli</strong>, author of <em>Empire of Temptation</em>, available in print, ebook, audiobook or <a href="https://amzn.to/3PnC1dk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>A.E. Merriweather</strong>, author of <em>Marin in the Moonlight</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook, from <a href="https://amzn.to/4gPDVzC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/marin-in-the-moonlight-a-e-merriweather/1146297872?ean=9798991070614" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/marin-in-the-moonlight/id6686407627" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/marin-in-the-moonlight-a-e-merriweather/21956577?ean=9798991070614" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Max Monroe</strong>, author of <em>What I Should've Said</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook at Amazon, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/what-i-shouldve-said-max-monroe/1145454443?ean=9798989524242" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/what-i-should-ve-said-max-monroe/21373597?ean=9798989524242" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local indie</a>, or <a href="https://amzn.to/4h6LKR6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2025/1/6/0717-the-proposition-by-judith-ivory]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">815c5e03-fbe1-473e-9b7e-4355762917c0</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 06 Jan 2025 19:44:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/09bd5472-7394-4e98-b43c-ef38f0b0690d/fated-mates-the-proposition.mp3" length="100448060" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:44:06</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>18</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>18</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-09bd5472-7394-4e98-b43c-ef38f0b0690d.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S07.16: Hear Me Out: New Year&apos;s Eve 2024</title><itunes:title>Hear Me Out: New Year&apos;s Eve 2024</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It's New Year's Eve, and we're ringing it in with our standard silliness, this year with brilliantly funny duo Adriana Herrera and Nikki Payne, playing the current internet sensation game, Hear Me Out, where we share the people, illustrations, and vibes that can get it in our respective corners of the world. </p><p>While there is no specific call for headphones in on this episode, you may choose to wear them to save yourself having to explain what exactly you're listening to!</p><p>If you are looking for something a bit more headphones in, you should try one of our past episodes! </p><ul><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/12/31/s0616-happy-new-year-breeding-kink-with-mila-finelli" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Breeding Kink with Mila Finelli</a> (2023)</li><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/12/29/s0515-omegaversity" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Omegaversity with Adriana Herrera and Ali Hazelwood</a> (2022)</li><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/12/31/jessa-kane-new-years-eve-extravaganza" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jessa Kane extravaganza with Andie Christopher, Alexis Daria, Adriana Herrera, LaQuette, Tracey Livesay, Nisha Sharma, and Joanna Shupe</a> (2020)</li><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/12/31/s0217-pegging-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pegging in Romance with Sierra Simone</a> (2019)</li></ul><br/><p>In 2021 we released the Season 2 Ted Lasso Roy Kent lovefest on New Year's Eve, but we were still pandemic-ing, so please don't blame us for the detour in brand that year.</p><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li><a href="https://www.nikkipaynebooks.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nikki Payne</a> and <a href="https://adrianaherreraromance.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adriana Herrera</a> are friends of Fated Mates, but they are also the hosts of <a href="https://www.unboundpod.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">their own romance podcast, Unbound Pod</a>. The first season was all about the Western and was six episodes. You can listen on all the podcasting apps. Preorder Adriana’s upcoming release, <a href="https://amzn.to/40eVzXp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Tropical Rebel Gets the Duke</a> or go <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/DDhqe3Dxsc5/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&amp;igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">see her on tour</a>.&nbsp;She will be at <a href="https://www.therippedbodice.com/brooklyn-events" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Ripped Bodice in Brooklyn, NY with Sarah and Joanna Shupe on February 11th</a>! </li><li><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/doj-tiktok-constitutional-lawsuit/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">This TikTok thing</a>, who knows what will happen!&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/danidiplacido/2024/10/09/tiktoks-hear-me-out-cake-trend-explained/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hear Me Out</a> is a fun meme, but in our case, no cakes were involved.&nbsp;</li><li>That’s not my <a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/praxis" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">praxis</a> is a funny thing to say in a text thread.&nbsp;</li><li>Sorry <a href="https://bambi.fandom.com/wiki/The_Great_Prince_of_the_Forest" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bambi’s Dad</a>, from <a href="https://youtu.be/thqErnTLU1s?si=qzNdUt3c5Lrg3vBX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Abe Froman,&nbsp; the sausage king of Chicago</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Listen, <a href="https://youtu.be/hvXIWelPEL0?si=KaxpS158s5sCW01Z" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">everyone was hot</a> in <a href="https://youtu.be/yClVlc_niac?si=DoA6XS3Gd4rWdEmZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Romeo + Juliet</a>, so they aren’t in the photo array below. But the real ones know. Same with the NBA: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/C8VaApFxpq7/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&amp;igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Angel Reese</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/C8Nq5gDMfbf/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&amp;igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">DiJonai Carrington</a>, no need to convince people about it!&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/50Tl8E0Vvms?si=Two_-mhzcSFHyfZf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LL Cool J and Eminem delivering Murdergrams</a>. </li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Meghan Quinn</strong>, author of <em>The Path to Loving Him</em>, available in print, ebook or <a href="https://amzn.to/40fRBOf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>, on January 7th.</li><li><strong>Avon Books</strong>, publisher of Jillian Meadows's <em>Give Me Butterflies</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook, at <a href="https://amzn.to/4fHuSzl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/give-me-butterflies-jillian-meadows/1145071455?ean=9780063416178" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/give-me-butterflies" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/ca/audiobook/give-me-butterflies/id1740495140" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/under-construction-kate-cole/20821299?ean=9781738139705" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local indie</a>.</li><li><strong>Kayla Grosse</strong>, author of <em>Axes &amp; Os</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/40dzFUz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Kate Cole</strong>, author of <em>Under Construction</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook at <a href="https://amzn.to/4fzWs1e" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/under-construction-kate-cole/1144304030?ean=9781738139712" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9798990565432" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local indie</a>.</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's New Year's Eve, and we're ringing it in with our standard silliness, this year with brilliantly funny duo Adriana Herrera and Nikki Payne, playing the current internet sensation game, Hear Me Out, where we share the people, illustrations, and vibes that can get it in our respective corners of the world. </p><p>While there is no specific call for headphones in on this episode, you may choose to wear them to save yourself having to explain what exactly you're listening to!</p><p>If you are looking for something a bit more headphones in, you should try one of our past episodes! </p><ul><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/12/31/s0616-happy-new-year-breeding-kink-with-mila-finelli" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Breeding Kink with Mila Finelli</a> (2023)</li><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/12/29/s0515-omegaversity" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Omegaversity with Adriana Herrera and Ali Hazelwood</a> (2022)</li><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/12/31/jessa-kane-new-years-eve-extravaganza" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jessa Kane extravaganza with Andie Christopher, Alexis Daria, Adriana Herrera, LaQuette, Tracey Livesay, Nisha Sharma, and Joanna Shupe</a> (2020)</li><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/12/31/s0217-pegging-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pegging in Romance with Sierra Simone</a> (2019)</li></ul><br/><p>In 2021 we released the Season 2 Ted Lasso Roy Kent lovefest on New Year's Eve, but we were still pandemic-ing, so please don't blame us for the detour in brand that year.</p><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li><a href="https://www.nikkipaynebooks.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nikki Payne</a> and <a href="https://adrianaherreraromance.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adriana Herrera</a> are friends of Fated Mates, but they are also the hosts of <a href="https://www.unboundpod.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">their own romance podcast, Unbound Pod</a>. The first season was all about the Western and was six episodes. You can listen on all the podcasting apps. Preorder Adriana’s upcoming release, <a href="https://amzn.to/40eVzXp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Tropical Rebel Gets the Duke</a> or go <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/DDhqe3Dxsc5/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&amp;igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">see her on tour</a>.&nbsp;She will be at <a href="https://www.therippedbodice.com/brooklyn-events" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Ripped Bodice in Brooklyn, NY with Sarah and Joanna Shupe on February 11th</a>! </li><li><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/doj-tiktok-constitutional-lawsuit/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">This TikTok thing</a>, who knows what will happen!&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/danidiplacido/2024/10/09/tiktoks-hear-me-out-cake-trend-explained/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hear Me Out</a> is a fun meme, but in our case, no cakes were involved.&nbsp;</li><li>That’s not my <a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/praxis" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">praxis</a> is a funny thing to say in a text thread.&nbsp;</li><li>Sorry <a href="https://bambi.fandom.com/wiki/The_Great_Prince_of_the_Forest" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bambi’s Dad</a>, from <a href="https://youtu.be/thqErnTLU1s?si=qzNdUt3c5Lrg3vBX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Abe Froman,&nbsp; the sausage king of Chicago</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Listen, <a href="https://youtu.be/hvXIWelPEL0?si=KaxpS158s5sCW01Z" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">everyone was hot</a> in <a href="https://youtu.be/yClVlc_niac?si=DoA6XS3Gd4rWdEmZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Romeo + Juliet</a>, so they aren’t in the photo array below. But the real ones know. Same with the NBA: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/C8VaApFxpq7/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&amp;igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Angel Reese</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/C8Nq5gDMfbf/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&amp;igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">DiJonai Carrington</a>, no need to convince people about it!&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/50Tl8E0Vvms?si=Two_-mhzcSFHyfZf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LL Cool J and Eminem delivering Murdergrams</a>. </li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Meghan Quinn</strong>, author of <em>The Path to Loving Him</em>, available in print, ebook or <a href="https://amzn.to/40fRBOf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>, on January 7th.</li><li><strong>Avon Books</strong>, publisher of Jillian Meadows's <em>Give Me Butterflies</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook, at <a href="https://amzn.to/4fHuSzl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/give-me-butterflies-jillian-meadows/1145071455?ean=9780063416178" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/give-me-butterflies" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/ca/audiobook/give-me-butterflies/id1740495140" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/under-construction-kate-cole/20821299?ean=9781738139705" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local indie</a>.</li><li><strong>Kayla Grosse</strong>, author of <em>Axes &amp; Os</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/40dzFUz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Kate Cole</strong>, author of <em>Under Construction</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook at <a href="https://amzn.to/4fzWs1e" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/under-construction-kate-cole/1144304030?ean=9781738139712" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9798990565432" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local indie</a>.</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/12/30/0716-hear-me-out-its-new-years-romance-eve]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">22d598fa-4d36-4ecc-b0fb-eeeae1947374</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 30 Dec 2024 23:05:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/982d1bee-a81d-4ab4-94fa-2d2b96019314/fated-mates-new-years-eve-2024.mp3" length="180345655" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>03:07:25</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>17</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>17</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-982d1bee-a81d-4ab4-94fa-2d2b96019314.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>07.15: Holiday Romances for 2024: Put It in the Lilly Library</title><itunes:title>Holiday Romances for 2024: Put It in the Lilly Library</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It's the holiday season, which means holiday romance! This year, we're talking about Princes of Christmas falling for heirs to Halloween, Hanukkah treats, retellings of<em>The Holiday, </em>sexy cabins in the woods, second chances, Harlequin Presents, and yes, an online site called OnlySantas. It's truly something for everyone!</p><p>We are taking next week off, but we’ll be back with some special guests for our annual New Years Eve episode, which promises to be a banger. In the meantime, we hope you get everything you want from whomever you believe in. </p><p>After New Years, our first read along of 2025 is Judith Ivory's <em>The Proposition</em>, a terrific Pygmalion retelling and one of Sarah's favorites. Find it at your local independent bookseller, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-proposition-judith-ivory/1103372700" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-proposition-49" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-proposition/id6462700133" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://amzn.to/40EipbH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>. </p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><h2>The Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Bti3dP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Nightmare Before Kissmas</a> by Sarah Raasch</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4flKEiY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pregnant Enemy, Christmas Bride</a> by Maisey Yates</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4flq6r4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kingpin’s Nanny</a> by Evie Rose</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3DhKZpE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">From Meltdown to Mistletoe</a> by Jessica Terry</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Dn7Ujy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Merry Little Mishap</a> by Vivian Mae</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ggPtLX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Snowed In</a> by Catherine Walsh</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3OXxVYW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">You’re a Mean One, Matthew Prince</a> by Timothy Janovsky</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/41D6lYB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">I’ll Be Gone for Christmas</a> by Georgia K. Boone</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Bv0dXS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Holiday Honeymoon Switch</a> by Julia McKay</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/49Xtw2d" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Grounded for Christmas</a> by Savannah J. Frierson</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3ZWuuYT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Return to Love</a> by Tara Pammi</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/49L6j2T" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Deadlines, Donuts, and Dreidels</a> by Jennifer Wilck</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gzVhje" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fortune’s Holiday Surprise</a> by Jennifer Wilck</li></ul><br/><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li>It’s the most wonderful time of the year. We’ve had lots of <a href="https://fatedmates.net/search-and-tag-cloud#gsc.tab=0&amp;gsc.q=holiday&amp;gsc.sort=" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">previous episodes around the winter holidays</a>, as well.&nbsp;</li><li>Rare book dealer <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/10/26/s0407-a-conversation-with-rare-book-dealer-rebecca-romney" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rebecca Romney was on the podcast back in season 4</a>, talking about how to collect books. You an read the catalogue for her collection, <a href="https://typepunchmatrix.cdn.bibliopolis.com/images/upload/the-romance-novel-in-english-online.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Romance Novel in English</a>, which was sold to <a href="https://libraries.indiana.edu/lilly-library" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Lilly Library at Indiana University</a>. You can see an exhibit of this collection, called <a href="https://news.iu.edu/live/news/37827-lilly-library-takes-romance-seriously-with-new" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love in the Library</a>, in Bloomington, Indiana through early February of 2025.&nbsp;</li><li>The real line from Pulp Fiction is <a href="https://youtu.be/Hrm-rPSCIBw?si=C1N_Ql1qE6O4666n" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“check out the big brain on Brad.”</a> Balls obviously had nothing to do with it.&nbsp;</li><li>Here’s a pretty solid overview of all the <a href="https://shegoeswithpurpose.com/alternatives-to-audible/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">different ways to get audiobooks</a> into your earholes without breaking your wallet.&nbsp;</li><li>Two very funny posts on Threads about category romance, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@kateclayborn.author/post/DDIgAkdSQrR?xmt=AQGz5SSdUUuu_AcYQg3PJFbkm01ZtX3Sn5ESeXEyamZPBQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">one from Kate Clayborn</a> and <a href="https://www.threads.net/@amandacinelliauthor/post/DDJdCZfoY1c?xmt=AQGz5SSdUUuu_AcYQg3PJFbkm01ZtX3Sn5ESeXEyamZPBQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amanda Cinelli’s reply</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://ohiomemory.ohiohistory.org/archives/5519" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sweetest Day</a> isn’t even a real holiday, unless you’re from Cleveland, that is.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/wk9caHO3pW0?si=e6duCofQaJvyafO9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Holiday</a> (2006) is a great movie and everyone is rewriting this plot this year for some reason.&nbsp;&nbsp;</li><li>Support your local indie <a href="https://bookshop.org/lists/07-15-2024-christmas-holiday-romances?new-list-page=true" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">by using Bookshop.Org to buy this week’s books in print. </a></li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Lumi Gummies,</strong> THC gummies available nationwide. Go to <a href="https://lumigummies.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lumigummies.com</a> and use code FATED50 for free gummies with a limited time $50 off coupon, or use code FATEDMATES for 30% off.</li><li><strong>Sophie Lark</strong>, author of <em>Brutal Prince</em>, available in ebook or <a href="https://amzn.to/4iHer8E" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Avon Books</strong>, publisher of Ally Carter's <em>The Most Wonderful Crime of the Year</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook, at <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Most-Wonderful-Crime-Year-Novel-ebook/dp/B0CRQHRDK1?crid=2WNVLBESP763O&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9._KjjVOHz4oGtxhmXUERoTQWzEAUQ7v5mRqiOokQiJ0Nt1jlS5RnbvqyOeJL58UaFWd8MgOy67ev0Z7LjsFXmdeiWvToxAyM3IYl6zsS7HHwIhhrWDodjXz969cjWJHVFNybf94-83C2-dyDwUjbLWKGJDs8Bq4coZPFeN7sK6NmvumUCymyG19Rd0AbkoCCmAg9krZlnNbxNcgzFC5enWR5ngkZKt2zWUNPfhTw4UtycEwuRp-K7x1bfaI7yAdC7aUHIi0kk_xEruC5GHOFCuwRdwulCe0hLQAGqTFTAGyPtH1ejtp7mNJ1_tt1Ysr5k4EaTg4VfhohSQwtvAmBQ7hDWRulePRSFIx_y7wILnMfdvj8XfgwjGZELuEiRtea2.CoQM6UuCCKY8FMevzox0QKzrEngdeyJycrYUxsw1bUQ&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=most+wonderful+crime&amp;qid=1734384380&amp;s=digital-text&amp;sprefix=most+wonder%2Cdigital-text%2C91&amp;sr=1-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-most-wonderful-crime-of-the-year-ally-carter/1144217806?ean=9780063276734" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-most-wonderful-crime-of-the-year-ally-carter/1144217806?ean=9780063276734" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-most-wonderful-crime-of-the-year/id6475644918" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063276680" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local indie</a>.</li><li><strong>Lark Maitland</strong>, author of Ash and the Butterfly, available in print and ebook at <a href="https://amzn.to/4iSk8AW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/ash-and-the-butterfly-lark-maitland/1146444101" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/ash-and-the-butterfly" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9798990565432" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local indie</a>.</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's the holiday season, which means holiday romance! This year, we're talking about Princes of Christmas falling for heirs to Halloween, Hanukkah treats, retellings of<em>The Holiday, </em>sexy cabins in the woods, second chances, Harlequin Presents, and yes, an online site called OnlySantas. It's truly something for everyone!</p><p>We are taking next week off, but we’ll be back with some special guests for our annual New Years Eve episode, which promises to be a banger. In the meantime, we hope you get everything you want from whomever you believe in. </p><p>After New Years, our first read along of 2025 is Judith Ivory's <em>The Proposition</em>, a terrific Pygmalion retelling and one of Sarah's favorites. Find it at your local independent bookseller, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-proposition-judith-ivory/1103372700" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-proposition-49" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-proposition/id6462700133" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://amzn.to/40EipbH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>. </p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><h2>The Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Bti3dP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Nightmare Before Kissmas</a> by Sarah Raasch</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4flKEiY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pregnant Enemy, Christmas Bride</a> by Maisey Yates</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4flq6r4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kingpin’s Nanny</a> by Evie Rose</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3DhKZpE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">From Meltdown to Mistletoe</a> by Jessica Terry</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Dn7Ujy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Merry Little Mishap</a> by Vivian Mae</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ggPtLX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Snowed In</a> by Catherine Walsh</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3OXxVYW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">You’re a Mean One, Matthew Prince</a> by Timothy Janovsky</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/41D6lYB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">I’ll Be Gone for Christmas</a> by Georgia K. Boone</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Bv0dXS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Holiday Honeymoon Switch</a> by Julia McKay</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/49Xtw2d" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Grounded for Christmas</a> by Savannah J. Frierson</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3ZWuuYT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Return to Love</a> by Tara Pammi</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/49L6j2T" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Deadlines, Donuts, and Dreidels</a> by Jennifer Wilck</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gzVhje" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fortune’s Holiday Surprise</a> by Jennifer Wilck</li></ul><br/><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li>It’s the most wonderful time of the year. We’ve had lots of <a href="https://fatedmates.net/search-and-tag-cloud#gsc.tab=0&amp;gsc.q=holiday&amp;gsc.sort=" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">previous episodes around the winter holidays</a>, as well.&nbsp;</li><li>Rare book dealer <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/10/26/s0407-a-conversation-with-rare-book-dealer-rebecca-romney" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rebecca Romney was on the podcast back in season 4</a>, talking about how to collect books. You an read the catalogue for her collection, <a href="https://typepunchmatrix.cdn.bibliopolis.com/images/upload/the-romance-novel-in-english-online.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Romance Novel in English</a>, which was sold to <a href="https://libraries.indiana.edu/lilly-library" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Lilly Library at Indiana University</a>. You can see an exhibit of this collection, called <a href="https://news.iu.edu/live/news/37827-lilly-library-takes-romance-seriously-with-new" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love in the Library</a>, in Bloomington, Indiana through early February of 2025.&nbsp;</li><li>The real line from Pulp Fiction is <a href="https://youtu.be/Hrm-rPSCIBw?si=C1N_Ql1qE6O4666n" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“check out the big brain on Brad.”</a> Balls obviously had nothing to do with it.&nbsp;</li><li>Here’s a pretty solid overview of all the <a href="https://shegoeswithpurpose.com/alternatives-to-audible/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">different ways to get audiobooks</a> into your earholes without breaking your wallet.&nbsp;</li><li>Two very funny posts on Threads about category romance, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@kateclayborn.author/post/DDIgAkdSQrR?xmt=AQGz5SSdUUuu_AcYQg3PJFbkm01ZtX3Sn5ESeXEyamZPBQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">one from Kate Clayborn</a> and <a href="https://www.threads.net/@amandacinelliauthor/post/DDJdCZfoY1c?xmt=AQGz5SSdUUuu_AcYQg3PJFbkm01ZtX3Sn5ESeXEyamZPBQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amanda Cinelli’s reply</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://ohiomemory.ohiohistory.org/archives/5519" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sweetest Day</a> isn’t even a real holiday, unless you’re from Cleveland, that is.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/wk9caHO3pW0?si=e6duCofQaJvyafO9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Holiday</a> (2006) is a great movie and everyone is rewriting this plot this year for some reason.&nbsp;&nbsp;</li><li>Support your local indie <a href="https://bookshop.org/lists/07-15-2024-christmas-holiday-romances?new-list-page=true" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">by using Bookshop.Org to buy this week’s books in print. </a></li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Lumi Gummies,</strong> THC gummies available nationwide. Go to <a href="https://lumigummies.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lumigummies.com</a> and use code FATED50 for free gummies with a limited time $50 off coupon, or use code FATEDMATES for 30% off.</li><li><strong>Sophie Lark</strong>, author of <em>Brutal Prince</em>, available in ebook or <a href="https://amzn.to/4iHer8E" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Avon Books</strong>, publisher of Ally Carter's <em>The Most Wonderful Crime of the Year</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook, at <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Most-Wonderful-Crime-Year-Novel-ebook/dp/B0CRQHRDK1?crid=2WNVLBESP763O&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9._KjjVOHz4oGtxhmXUERoTQWzEAUQ7v5mRqiOokQiJ0Nt1jlS5RnbvqyOeJL58UaFWd8MgOy67ev0Z7LjsFXmdeiWvToxAyM3IYl6zsS7HHwIhhrWDodjXz969cjWJHVFNybf94-83C2-dyDwUjbLWKGJDs8Bq4coZPFeN7sK6NmvumUCymyG19Rd0AbkoCCmAg9krZlnNbxNcgzFC5enWR5ngkZKt2zWUNPfhTw4UtycEwuRp-K7x1bfaI7yAdC7aUHIi0kk_xEruC5GHOFCuwRdwulCe0hLQAGqTFTAGyPtH1ejtp7mNJ1_tt1Ysr5k4EaTg4VfhohSQwtvAmBQ7hDWRulePRSFIx_y7wILnMfdvj8XfgwjGZELuEiRtea2.CoQM6UuCCKY8FMevzox0QKzrEngdeyJycrYUxsw1bUQ&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=most+wonderful+crime&amp;qid=1734384380&amp;s=digital-text&amp;sprefix=most+wonder%2Cdigital-text%2C91&amp;sr=1-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-most-wonderful-crime-of-the-year-ally-carter/1144217806?ean=9780063276734" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-most-wonderful-crime-of-the-year-ally-carter/1144217806?ean=9780063276734" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-most-wonderful-crime-of-the-year/id6475644918" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063276680" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local indie</a>.</li><li><strong>Lark Maitland</strong>, author of Ash and the Butterfly, available in print and ebook at <a href="https://amzn.to/4iSk8AW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/ash-and-the-butterfly-lark-maitland/1146444101" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/ash-and-the-butterfly" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9798990565432" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local indie</a>.</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/12/16/0715-holiday-romances-for-2024-put-it-in-the-lilly-library]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">dc4d9d0c-ba80-4bf7-9cf3-3872c1be417f</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 17 Dec 2024 22:15:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/100b143e-a8fb-4a31-be1d-a7a84a39f266/fated-mates-holiday-romances-for-2024.mp3" length="106586615" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:50:36</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>16</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>16</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-100b143e-a8fb-4a31-be1d-a7a84a39f266.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S07:14 Excellent 2024 Debut Romance Novels</title><itunes:title>Excellent 2024 Debut Romance Novels</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We're so excited to be talking about some of the bright new voices in romance this week -- every book we talk about in this episode is a debut romance from 2024. We're introducing you to eighteen new authors, all of whom you'll be able to meet years from now and say, "I've been reading you from the beginning!" </p><p>From chefs to film directors, baseball players to librarians, spies to playwrights, there's a little something here for everyone. You're going to love it. </p><p>Guess what? There's a debut romance in the <a href="https://www.pocketbooksshop.com/fated-mates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates Best of 2024 Book Pack</a> from our friends at <a href="https://www.pocketbooksshop.com/fated-mates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pocket Books Shop in Lancaster, PA</a>! There's still time to order...and get a box of our favorite books of the year and support booksellers at a fantastic indie bookstore all at the same time!   </p><p>If you want to talk romance more ofte, maybe you want to join our Patreon? You get an extra monthly episode from us and access to the incredible readers and brilliant people on the Fated Mates Discord! Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>. </p><p>Our next read along is Judith Ivory's <em>The Proposition</em>, a terrific Pygmalion retelling and one of Sarah's favorites. Find it at your local independent bookseller, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-proposition-judith-ivory/1103372700" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-proposition-49" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-proposition/id6462700133" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://amzn.to/40EipbH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>. </p><h2>The Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3OMjDub" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Prospects</a> by K.T. Hoffman</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3ZwusWt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Unsteady</a> by Peyton Corinne</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4irhwd0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Next Best Fling</a> by Gabriella Gamez</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3OOeCRP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Kiss Countdown</a> by Etta Easton</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3ZH5Iff" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sunshine and Spice</a> by Aurora Palit</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3BntiEE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">But How Are You, Really?</a> By Ella Dawson</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Zv9Mhd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">When I Think of You</a> by Myah Ariel&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3VvN1sA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Showmance</a> by Chad Beguelin</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/49vWx4H" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Lovers</a> by Rebecca Faubion</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Dbo27G" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Say You’ll be Mine</a> by Naina Kumar</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4f9lSmb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Slowest Burn</a> by Sarah Chamberlain</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gqNm7T" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Spy and I</a> by Tiana Smith</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gKI1sn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rules for Ghosting</a> by Shelly Jay Shore</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4g3bTAf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">How to End a Love Story</a> by Yulin&nbsp;Kuang</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3BopUJA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pick-Up</a> by Nora Dahlia</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4glX7EV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Temple of Persephone</a> by Isabella Kamal</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/41qTed9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">I’ll Have What He’s Having</a> by Adib Khorram</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/41nwGdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Best Hex Ever</a> by Nadia El-Fassi </li></ul><br/><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li>It’s not too late to <a href="https://www.pocketbooksshop.com/fated-mates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">buy the Fated Mates best of 2024 box</a> available from Pocket Books Shop in Lancaster, PA.&nbsp;</li><li>Jen realized a lifelong nerdy dream by being on Chicago public radio. <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/lets-get-ready-to-romance/id1108147135?i=1000678403248" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The show is called Reset, and she was talking about romance with Sonali Dev and Bryn Donovan.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Jack%20wagon&amp;scrlybrkr=958e9960" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jackwagon</a>, defined.&nbsp;</li><li>Take a look at <a href="https://feelingswheel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the feelings whee</a>l.</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/66UhXFDMlRI?si=kLwIkhj2Wxd_YqWY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Prom</a>, a broadway show.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/SG-u1WE5J6A?si=IQA0t8LqaxuLzPyR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sneakers</a>, a movie.</li><li>You can <a href="https://bookshop.org/lists/2024-debuts-fated-mates?new-list-page=true" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">shop this week's books on bookshop.org</a> and choose which local indie you want to support. </li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Book of the Month</strong>, bringing the best new fiction to your door. Go to <a href="https://bookofthemonth.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bookofthemonth.com</a> to pick a book and join. <em>For a limited time, you can get your first book for just $5 with code </em><strong><em>TINSEL</em></strong><em>!</em><strong> </strong>Remember to tell them Fated Mates sent you!</li><li><strong>Pippa Grant</strong>, author of <em>The Worst Wedding Date</em>, available in ebook or <a href="https://amzn.to/4g2Lv9s" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Lydia Lloyd</strong>, author of <em>When the Viscount Wanted Me</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook, at <a href="https://amzn.to/4fgy2cS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/when-the-viscount-wanted-me-lydia-lloyd/1144035778?ean=9781961544574" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, Kobo, Apple Books.</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We're so excited to be talking about some of the bright new voices in romance this week -- every book we talk about in this episode is a debut romance from 2024. We're introducing you to eighteen new authors, all of whom you'll be able to meet years from now and say, "I've been reading you from the beginning!" </p><p>From chefs to film directors, baseball players to librarians, spies to playwrights, there's a little something here for everyone. You're going to love it. </p><p>Guess what? There's a debut romance in the <a href="https://www.pocketbooksshop.com/fated-mates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates Best of 2024 Book Pack</a> from our friends at <a href="https://www.pocketbooksshop.com/fated-mates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pocket Books Shop in Lancaster, PA</a>! There's still time to order...and get a box of our favorite books of the year and support booksellers at a fantastic indie bookstore all at the same time!   </p><p>If you want to talk romance more ofte, maybe you want to join our Patreon? You get an extra monthly episode from us and access to the incredible readers and brilliant people on the Fated Mates Discord! Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>. </p><p>Our next read along is Judith Ivory's <em>The Proposition</em>, a terrific Pygmalion retelling and one of Sarah's favorites. Find it at your local independent bookseller, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-proposition-judith-ivory/1103372700" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-proposition-49" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-proposition/id6462700133" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://amzn.to/40EipbH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>. </p><h2>The Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3OMjDub" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Prospects</a> by K.T. Hoffman</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3ZwusWt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Unsteady</a> by Peyton Corinne</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4irhwd0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Next Best Fling</a> by Gabriella Gamez</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3OOeCRP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Kiss Countdown</a> by Etta Easton</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3ZH5Iff" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sunshine and Spice</a> by Aurora Palit</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3BntiEE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">But How Are You, Really?</a> By Ella Dawson</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Zv9Mhd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">When I Think of You</a> by Myah Ariel&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3VvN1sA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Showmance</a> by Chad Beguelin</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/49vWx4H" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Lovers</a> by Rebecca Faubion</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Dbo27G" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Say You’ll be Mine</a> by Naina Kumar</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4f9lSmb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Slowest Burn</a> by Sarah Chamberlain</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gqNm7T" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Spy and I</a> by Tiana Smith</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gKI1sn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rules for Ghosting</a> by Shelly Jay Shore</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4g3bTAf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">How to End a Love Story</a> by Yulin&nbsp;Kuang</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3BopUJA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pick-Up</a> by Nora Dahlia</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4glX7EV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Temple of Persephone</a> by Isabella Kamal</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/41qTed9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">I’ll Have What He’s Having</a> by Adib Khorram</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/41nwGdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Best Hex Ever</a> by Nadia El-Fassi </li></ul><br/><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li>It’s not too late to <a href="https://www.pocketbooksshop.com/fated-mates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">buy the Fated Mates best of 2024 box</a> available from Pocket Books Shop in Lancaster, PA.&nbsp;</li><li>Jen realized a lifelong nerdy dream by being on Chicago public radio. <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/lets-get-ready-to-romance/id1108147135?i=1000678403248" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The show is called Reset, and she was talking about romance with Sonali Dev and Bryn Donovan.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Jack%20wagon&amp;scrlybrkr=958e9960" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jackwagon</a>, defined.&nbsp;</li><li>Take a look at <a href="https://feelingswheel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the feelings whee</a>l.</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/66UhXFDMlRI?si=kLwIkhj2Wxd_YqWY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Prom</a>, a broadway show.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/SG-u1WE5J6A?si=IQA0t8LqaxuLzPyR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sneakers</a>, a movie.</li><li>You can <a href="https://bookshop.org/lists/2024-debuts-fated-mates?new-list-page=true" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">shop this week's books on bookshop.org</a> and choose which local indie you want to support. </li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Book of the Month</strong>, bringing the best new fiction to your door. Go to <a href="https://bookofthemonth.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bookofthemonth.com</a> to pick a book and join. <em>For a limited time, you can get your first book for just $5 with code </em><strong><em>TINSEL</em></strong><em>!</em><strong> </strong>Remember to tell them Fated Mates sent you!</li><li><strong>Pippa Grant</strong>, author of <em>The Worst Wedding Date</em>, available in ebook or <a href="https://amzn.to/4g2Lv9s" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Lydia Lloyd</strong>, author of <em>When the Viscount Wanted Me</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook, at <a href="https://amzn.to/4fgy2cS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/when-the-viscount-wanted-me-lydia-lloyd/1144035778?ean=9781961544574" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, Kobo, Apple Books.</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/12/9/2024-debuts]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">7a6976dd-4a9a-44af-b78b-ae0885f5ecea</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 09 Dec 2024 21:08:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/bce795a3-5214-4e8b-b018-a032a2accc50/fated-mates-2024-debuts.mp3" length="92481764" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:35:48</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>15</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>15</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-bce795a3-5214-4e8b-b018-a032a2accc50.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S07:13 Getting Pearl Jammed: Romance After 40</title><itunes:title>Getting Pearl Jammed: Romance After 40</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Let's talk about the over 40s and how they deserve love, too! This week, we're diving into what the industry calls "seasoned" romance, though we're not wild about this phrasing and prefer "Women over forty can get it!" We're talking about romances where, yes, the heroines are older, but they still get to go on adventures, in and out of the bedroom...and with rock stars and incubi, even!</p><p>Guess what? There's a romance with a heroine over 40 in the <a href="https://www.pocketbooksshop.com/fated-mates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates Best of 2024 Book Pack</a> from our friends at <a href="https://www.pocketbooksshop.com/fated-mates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pocket Books Shop in Lancaster, PA</a>! You can get a box of our favorite books of the year and support booksellers at a fantastic indie bookstore all at the same time!   </p><p>If you were shouting book names at your car stereo during this episode and want to shout them at other people, maybe you want to join our Patreon? You get an extra monthly episode from us and access to the incredible readers and brilliant people on the Fated Mates Discord! Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>. </p><p>Our next read along is Judith Ivory's <em>The Proposition</em>, a terrific Pygmalion retelling and one of Sarah's favorites. Find it at your local independent bookseller, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-proposition-judith-ivory/1103372700" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-proposition-49" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-proposition/id6462700133" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://amzn.to/40EipbH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.</p><h2>The Books </h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Zhk5pk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mr. Loverman</a> by Bernardine Evaristo</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/49j252o" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Becoming Crone</a> by Lydia M. Hawke</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3ZxFege" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pick-Up</a> by Nora Dahlia</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3BaXxyp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gray Hair Don’t Care</a> by Karen Booth</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gi9EZn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Remember When</a> by Mary Balogh</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3CTtQT8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Come As You Are</a> by Jess K. Hardy</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3VmcqVj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Reaper’s Stand</a> by Joanna Wylde</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/41dxkdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Art Collector</a> by Katelyn Brehm</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/41iLNVc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Losing Sight</a> by Tati Richardson</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3VkCqAu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Role Playing</a> by Cathy Yardley</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/49gPpZX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Undermining of Twyla and Frank</a> by Megan Bannen</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3OHLZ8M" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Candidly Yours</a> by Reese Ryan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/49hMQqv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dirty Little Midlife Mistake</a> by Lilian Monroe</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3OzQsdU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Beautifully Unexpected</a> by Lily Morton</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3OFHU5c" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chieftain</a> by Annie Lucas</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3VhXQhS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Talk me Down</a> by Victoria Dahl&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4fWcBiy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fanning the Flames</a> by Victoria Dahl&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4f2WnCO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Worst Guy</a> by Kate Canterbury</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ibUV49" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">As the Underworld Turns</a> by Robin Peterman</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Bdbz2q" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">It’s a Wonderful Midlife Crisis</a> by Robin Peterman</li></ul><br/><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li>We had an episode about <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/7/13/s0444-daddy-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Daddy romance</a> and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/4/5/s0333-age-gap-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">age gap romance</a>, but that’s not what this episode is about, this one is about characters over 40. Basically, if you loved <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_(Pearl_Jam_album)?scrlybrkr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pearl Jam’s Ten</a>, then you are probably the age of the characters in this episode. Now that “spicy” is used to describe sexy books, the word seasoned seems less useful.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.census.gov/newsroom/facts-for-features/2024/veterans-day.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Veteran’s Day</a>, <a href="https://www.britishlegion.org.uk/get-involved/remembrance/about-remembrance/armistice-day" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Armistice Day</a>, and how <a href="https://futurism.com/the-byte/wikipedia-declares-war-ai-slop" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the wikipedia editors are making war on AI slop</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Allie Parker is <a href="https://alliekparker.substack.com/podcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the host of the Romance Ever After podcast</a>, and she recently suggested “the next wave of historical romance would be the 80s and 90s,” but there’s been way more historical romance kerfuffles happening since then.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://sandraantonelli.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sandra Antonelli</a> is a key advocate for romance with older characters. Her site has an essay called <a href="https://sandraantonelli.com/2021/10/27/ignored-and-misrepresented-enough-already/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ignored and Misrepresented</a>, which describes why characters over 40 should be leads and not stereotypes.&nbsp;</li><li>This NYTimes article answers a pressing question: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/30/style/oversized-glasses-frames-women.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Why Do So Many Women Wear Giant Eyeglasses?&nbsp;</a></li><li>A new name for middle aged folks: <a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2013/01/30/the-sandwich-generation/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the sandwich generation</a>. </li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Book of the Month</strong>, bringing the best new fiction to your door. Go to <a href="https://bookofthemonth.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bookofthemonth.com</a> to pick a book and join. <em>For a limited time, you can get your first book for just $5 with code </em><strong><em>TINSEL</em></strong><em>!</em><strong> </strong>Remember to tell them Fated Mates sent you!</li><li><strong>Jenni Bara</strong>, author of <em>Finding Out</em>, available in ebook or <a href="https://amzn.to/49mCpBY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Avon Books</strong>, publishers of Julie Murphy and Sierra Simone's <em>A Jingle Bell Mingle</em>, available in from <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780063338210" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local independent bookstore</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/a-jingle-bell-mingle?srsltid=AfmBOoovvOf9i-EQHtDgaE6lXP8_buzp1Z3pCLijg3D7MWxoPryDQs0O" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/mt/book/a-jingle-bell-mingle/id6475873604" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-jingle-bell-mingle-julie-murphy/1144605308" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a> or <a href="https://amzn.to/3VoHOTb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.</li><li><strong>Kayla Grosse</strong>, author of <em>Axes &amp; Os</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/3ZBCmyS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let's talk about the over 40s and how they deserve love, too! This week, we're diving into what the industry calls "seasoned" romance, though we're not wild about this phrasing and prefer "Women over forty can get it!" We're talking about romances where, yes, the heroines are older, but they still get to go on adventures, in and out of the bedroom...and with rock stars and incubi, even!</p><p>Guess what? There's a romance with a heroine over 40 in the <a href="https://www.pocketbooksshop.com/fated-mates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates Best of 2024 Book Pack</a> from our friends at <a href="https://www.pocketbooksshop.com/fated-mates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pocket Books Shop in Lancaster, PA</a>! You can get a box of our favorite books of the year and support booksellers at a fantastic indie bookstore all at the same time!   </p><p>If you were shouting book names at your car stereo during this episode and want to shout them at other people, maybe you want to join our Patreon? You get an extra monthly episode from us and access to the incredible readers and brilliant people on the Fated Mates Discord! Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>. </p><p>Our next read along is Judith Ivory's <em>The Proposition</em>, a terrific Pygmalion retelling and one of Sarah's favorites. Find it at your local independent bookseller, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-proposition-judith-ivory/1103372700" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-proposition-49" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-proposition/id6462700133" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://amzn.to/40EipbH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.</p><h2>The Books </h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Zhk5pk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mr. Loverman</a> by Bernardine Evaristo</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/49j252o" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Becoming Crone</a> by Lydia M. Hawke</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3ZxFege" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pick-Up</a> by Nora Dahlia</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3BaXxyp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gray Hair Don’t Care</a> by Karen Booth</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gi9EZn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Remember When</a> by Mary Balogh</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3CTtQT8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Come As You Are</a> by Jess K. Hardy</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3VmcqVj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Reaper’s Stand</a> by Joanna Wylde</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/41dxkdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Art Collector</a> by Katelyn Brehm</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/41iLNVc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Losing Sight</a> by Tati Richardson</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3VkCqAu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Role Playing</a> by Cathy Yardley</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/49gPpZX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Undermining of Twyla and Frank</a> by Megan Bannen</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3OHLZ8M" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Candidly Yours</a> by Reese Ryan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/49hMQqv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dirty Little Midlife Mistake</a> by Lilian Monroe</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3OzQsdU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Beautifully Unexpected</a> by Lily Morton</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3OFHU5c" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chieftain</a> by Annie Lucas</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3VhXQhS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Talk me Down</a> by Victoria Dahl&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4fWcBiy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fanning the Flames</a> by Victoria Dahl&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4f2WnCO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Worst Guy</a> by Kate Canterbury</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ibUV49" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">As the Underworld Turns</a> by Robin Peterman</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Bdbz2q" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">It’s a Wonderful Midlife Crisis</a> by Robin Peterman</li></ul><br/><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li>We had an episode about <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/7/13/s0444-daddy-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Daddy romance</a> and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/4/5/s0333-age-gap-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">age gap romance</a>, but that’s not what this episode is about, this one is about characters over 40. Basically, if you loved <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_(Pearl_Jam_album)?scrlybrkr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pearl Jam’s Ten</a>, then you are probably the age of the characters in this episode. Now that “spicy” is used to describe sexy books, the word seasoned seems less useful.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.census.gov/newsroom/facts-for-features/2024/veterans-day.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Veteran’s Day</a>, <a href="https://www.britishlegion.org.uk/get-involved/remembrance/about-remembrance/armistice-day" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Armistice Day</a>, and how <a href="https://futurism.com/the-byte/wikipedia-declares-war-ai-slop" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the wikipedia editors are making war on AI slop</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Allie Parker is <a href="https://alliekparker.substack.com/podcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the host of the Romance Ever After podcast</a>, and she recently suggested “the next wave of historical romance would be the 80s and 90s,” but there’s been way more historical romance kerfuffles happening since then.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://sandraantonelli.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sandra Antonelli</a> is a key advocate for romance with older characters. Her site has an essay called <a href="https://sandraantonelli.com/2021/10/27/ignored-and-misrepresented-enough-already/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ignored and Misrepresented</a>, which describes why characters over 40 should be leads and not stereotypes.&nbsp;</li><li>This NYTimes article answers a pressing question: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/30/style/oversized-glasses-frames-women.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Why Do So Many Women Wear Giant Eyeglasses?&nbsp;</a></li><li>A new name for middle aged folks: <a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2013/01/30/the-sandwich-generation/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the sandwich generation</a>. </li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Book of the Month</strong>, bringing the best new fiction to your door. Go to <a href="https://bookofthemonth.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bookofthemonth.com</a> to pick a book and join. <em>For a limited time, you can get your first book for just $5 with code </em><strong><em>TINSEL</em></strong><em>!</em><strong> </strong>Remember to tell them Fated Mates sent you!</li><li><strong>Jenni Bara</strong>, author of <em>Finding Out</em>, available in ebook or <a href="https://amzn.to/49mCpBY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Avon Books</strong>, publishers of Julie Murphy and Sierra Simone's <em>A Jingle Bell Mingle</em>, available in from <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780063338210" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local independent bookstore</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/a-jingle-bell-mingle?srsltid=AfmBOoovvOf9i-EQHtDgaE6lXP8_buzp1Z3pCLijg3D7MWxoPryDQs0O" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/mt/book/a-jingle-bell-mingle/id6475873604" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-jingle-bell-mingle-julie-murphy/1144605308" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a> or <a href="https://amzn.to/3VoHOTb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.</li><li><strong>Kayla Grosse</strong>, author of <em>Axes &amp; Os</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/3ZBCmyS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/12/3/seasoned-sandwiched-the-pearl-jam-generation]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">91d3b8d8-b53c-40ab-be51-75413e8b3a31</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 03 Dec 2024 13:36:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/e9c418a2-ca9e-4b6d-b2e6-794f8f010d87/fated-mates-40.mp3" length="109635275" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:53:40</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>14</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-e9c418a2-ca9e-4b6d-b2e6-794f8f010d87.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S07:12 Bookstores and Booksellers</title><itunes:title>Bookstores and Booksellers</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It's Thanksgiving week in the United States, which means capitalism! We're skipping (mainly) the talk of the midnight electronics runs, and heading straight to Small Business Saturday, when your local independent bookseller is doing their very best to put great books in your hands. Ever been in your local bookstore and thought -- I wish this place was the setting of a romance novel? We've got you, friends. </p><p>We talk about the magic of bookstores, about the importance of small businesses, about bookshops as sites for revolution, and about the appeal of running your own little shop around the corner. And we recommend a bunch of books that are...honestly? Charming AF. </p><p>Want more indie bookstore content? Support some booksellers at a bookstore we really love by purchasing the <a href="https://www.pocketbooksshop.com/fated-mates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates Best of 2024 Book Pack</a> from our friends at <a href="https://www.pocketbooksshop.com/fated-mates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pocket Books Shop in Lancaster, PA</a>. Don’t forget to tag us on Instagram or Threads or Bluesky when you unbox!  </p><p>If you were shouting book names at your car stereo during this episode and want to shout them at other people, maybe you want to join our Patreon? You get an extra monthly episode from us and access to the incredible readers and brilliant people on the Fated Mates Discord! Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>. </p><p>Our next read along is Judith Ivory's <em>The Proposition</em>, a terrific Pygmalion retelling and one of Sarah's favorites. Find it at your local independent bookseller, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-proposition-judith-ivory/1103372700" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-proposition-49" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-proposition/id6462700133" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://amzn.to/40EipbH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.</p><h2>Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9781635576023" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Meet Me by the Fountain: An Inside History of the Mall</a> by Alexandra Lange</li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780062379412" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Rogue Not Taken</a> by Sarah MacLean</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Onj7mg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Vampire in the Bookstore</a> by Elle M. Drew</li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9781250621146" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Booked on a Feeling</a> by Jayci Lee</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4g1bDBk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Once Upon a Charming Bookshop</a> by Heatherly Bell</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4fHRi3Z" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Seditious Affair</a> by KJ Charles</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4eJFiOj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love in Winter Wonderland</a> by Abiola Bello</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Z1oL2p" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Taken</a> by Charlotte Stein</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Z4d6Qj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rock Chick</a> by Kristen Ashley</li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780593337226" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Better than Fiction</a> by Alexa Martin</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/411HihN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nice Girls Don’t Live Forever</a> by Molly Harper</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hZJX1j" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Earl Takes a Fancy</a> by Lorraine Heath</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4i3sbdC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Seven Secrets of Seduction</a> by Anne Mallory</li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9781984806734" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Beach Read</a> by Emily Henry</li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9781538768679" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop Cinderella</a> by Laura Lee Guhrke</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4fGY0aC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Wrong Mr. Right</a> by Stephanie Archer</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3V8eIHI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Adrien English Mysteries</a> by Josh Lanyon</li></ul><br/><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>A guide to upcoming shopping holidays, because America: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Friday_(shopping)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Friday</a>, <a href="https://www.sba.gov/about-sba/organization/sba-initiatives/small-business-saturday" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Small Business Saturday</a>, <a href="https://www.pcmag.com/news/black-friday-vs-cyber-monday-2024-which-day-is-better-for-deals" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cyber Monday</a>, and <a href="https://www.givingtuesday.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Giving Tuesday</a>. </li><li>Some more info about <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/money/best-time-to-buy-a-tv/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the best time to buy a TV</a>. Returning a perfectly good item after you’ve used it for a holiday (do we call the Super Bowl a holiday? Probably, if Taylor Swift is in attendance.) is called “<a href="https://fox4kc.com/news/buying-a-tv-and-returning-it-after-the-super-bowl-ok-or-no/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wardrobing</a>.” Back in 2018, <a href="https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/02/09/584493046/l-l-bean-scraps-legendary-lifetime-return-policy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LL Bean changed their famous lifetime return policy</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>I guess if you need some Chicago stuff, you should check out <a href="https://thesilverroom.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Silver Room</a>, and you can use <a href="http://bookshop.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.Org</a> to find a local indie bookstore to support.&nbsp;</li><li>It’s not called <a href="https://www.librarything.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Library Thing </a>(that’s an app to catalog your own library), what Jen was talking about is <a href="https://www.libraryextension.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Library Extension.</a></li><li>WTF, <a href="https://www.offthebeatenshelf.com/blog/youve-got-mail" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">You’ve Got Mail</a>, the<a href="https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/scaachikoul/youve-got-mail-meg-ryan-tom-hanks-dave-chappelle" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> 90s what an innocent time</a>. You've Got Mail is a retelling of the 1940s Jimmy Stewart, Margaret Sullivan film <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shop_Around_the_Corner" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Shop Around the Corner</a> which, incidentally, is a perfect movie for a lazy holiday weekend with several generations in attendance.</li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Book of the Month</strong>, bringing the best new fiction to your door. Go to <a href="https://bookofthemonth.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bookofthemonth.com</a> to pick a book and join. <em>For a limited time, you can get your first book for just $5 with code </em><strong><em>STUFFED </em></strong><em>before December 2nd, and </em><strong><em>TINSEL </em></strong><em>anytime in December!</em><strong> </strong>Remember to tell them Fated Mates sent you!</li><li><strong>Sara Cate</strong>, author of <em>Keep Me</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook from <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781728282190" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local independent bookstore</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/keep-me-18" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/keep-me/id6478244785" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/keep-me-sara-cate/1144894255?ean=9781728282190" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a> or <a href="https://amzn.to/4g1YXKi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.</li><li><strong>Blue Box Press</strong>, publishers of Darynda Jones's <em>Graveyard Dog</em>, available in print, ebook, and audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/3CGztnm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.</li><li><strong>Melissa Dymond</strong>, author of <em>Holiday Wedding</em>, available in print or ebook from <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9798990395862" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local independent bookstore</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/holiday-wedding-a-spicy-holiday-romance-with-suspense-melissa-dymond/1146419472?ean=9798990395862" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a> or <a href="https://amzn.to/3Z4e8Ml" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/11/24/bookstores-and-booksellers </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's Thanksgiving week in the United States, which means capitalism! We're skipping (mainly) the talk of the midnight electronics runs, and heading straight to Small Business Saturday, when your local independent bookseller is doing their very best to put great books in your hands. Ever been in your local bookstore and thought -- I wish this place was the setting of a romance novel? We've got you, friends. </p><p>We talk about the magic of bookstores, about the importance of small businesses, about bookshops as sites for revolution, and about the appeal of running your own little shop around the corner. And we recommend a bunch of books that are...honestly? Charming AF. </p><p>Want more indie bookstore content? Support some booksellers at a bookstore we really love by purchasing the <a href="https://www.pocketbooksshop.com/fated-mates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates Best of 2024 Book Pack</a> from our friends at <a href="https://www.pocketbooksshop.com/fated-mates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pocket Books Shop in Lancaster, PA</a>. Don’t forget to tag us on Instagram or Threads or Bluesky when you unbox!  </p><p>If you were shouting book names at your car stereo during this episode and want to shout them at other people, maybe you want to join our Patreon? You get an extra monthly episode from us and access to the incredible readers and brilliant people on the Fated Mates Discord! Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>. </p><p>Our next read along is Judith Ivory's <em>The Proposition</em>, a terrific Pygmalion retelling and one of Sarah's favorites. Find it at your local independent bookseller, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-proposition-judith-ivory/1103372700" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-proposition-49" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-proposition/id6462700133" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://amzn.to/40EipbH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.</p><h2>Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9781635576023" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Meet Me by the Fountain: An Inside History of the Mall</a> by Alexandra Lange</li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780062379412" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Rogue Not Taken</a> by Sarah MacLean</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Onj7mg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Vampire in the Bookstore</a> by Elle M. Drew</li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9781250621146" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Booked on a Feeling</a> by Jayci Lee</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4g1bDBk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Once Upon a Charming Bookshop</a> by Heatherly Bell</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4fHRi3Z" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Seditious Affair</a> by KJ Charles</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4eJFiOj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love in Winter Wonderland</a> by Abiola Bello</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Z1oL2p" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Taken</a> by Charlotte Stein</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Z4d6Qj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rock Chick</a> by Kristen Ashley</li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780593337226" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Better than Fiction</a> by Alexa Martin</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/411HihN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nice Girls Don’t Live Forever</a> by Molly Harper</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hZJX1j" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Earl Takes a Fancy</a> by Lorraine Heath</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4i3sbdC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Seven Secrets of Seduction</a> by Anne Mallory</li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9781984806734" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Beach Read</a> by Emily Henry</li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9781538768679" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop Cinderella</a> by Laura Lee Guhrke</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4fGY0aC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Wrong Mr. Right</a> by Stephanie Archer</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3V8eIHI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Adrien English Mysteries</a> by Josh Lanyon</li></ul><br/><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>A guide to upcoming shopping holidays, because America: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Friday_(shopping)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Friday</a>, <a href="https://www.sba.gov/about-sba/organization/sba-initiatives/small-business-saturday" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Small Business Saturday</a>, <a href="https://www.pcmag.com/news/black-friday-vs-cyber-monday-2024-which-day-is-better-for-deals" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cyber Monday</a>, and <a href="https://www.givingtuesday.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Giving Tuesday</a>. </li><li>Some more info about <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/money/best-time-to-buy-a-tv/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the best time to buy a TV</a>. Returning a perfectly good item after you’ve used it for a holiday (do we call the Super Bowl a holiday? Probably, if Taylor Swift is in attendance.) is called “<a href="https://fox4kc.com/news/buying-a-tv-and-returning-it-after-the-super-bowl-ok-or-no/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wardrobing</a>.” Back in 2018, <a href="https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/02/09/584493046/l-l-bean-scraps-legendary-lifetime-return-policy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LL Bean changed their famous lifetime return policy</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>I guess if you need some Chicago stuff, you should check out <a href="https://thesilverroom.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Silver Room</a>, and you can use <a href="http://bookshop.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.Org</a> to find a local indie bookstore to support.&nbsp;</li><li>It’s not called <a href="https://www.librarything.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Library Thing </a>(that’s an app to catalog your own library), what Jen was talking about is <a href="https://www.libraryextension.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Library Extension.</a></li><li>WTF, <a href="https://www.offthebeatenshelf.com/blog/youve-got-mail" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">You’ve Got Mail</a>, the<a href="https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/scaachikoul/youve-got-mail-meg-ryan-tom-hanks-dave-chappelle" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> 90s what an innocent time</a>. You've Got Mail is a retelling of the 1940s Jimmy Stewart, Margaret Sullivan film <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shop_Around_the_Corner" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Shop Around the Corner</a> which, incidentally, is a perfect movie for a lazy holiday weekend with several generations in attendance.</li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Book of the Month</strong>, bringing the best new fiction to your door. Go to <a href="https://bookofthemonth.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bookofthemonth.com</a> to pick a book and join. <em>For a limited time, you can get your first book for just $5 with code </em><strong><em>STUFFED </em></strong><em>before December 2nd, and </em><strong><em>TINSEL </em></strong><em>anytime in December!</em><strong> </strong>Remember to tell them Fated Mates sent you!</li><li><strong>Sara Cate</strong>, author of <em>Keep Me</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook from <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781728282190" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local independent bookstore</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/keep-me-18" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/keep-me/id6478244785" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/keep-me-sara-cate/1144894255?ean=9781728282190" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a> or <a href="https://amzn.to/4g1YXKi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.</li><li><strong>Blue Box Press</strong>, publishers of Darynda Jones's <em>Graveyard Dog</em>, available in print, ebook, and audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/3CGztnm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.</li><li><strong>Melissa Dymond</strong>, author of <em>Holiday Wedding</em>, available in print or ebook from <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9798990395862" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local independent bookstore</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/holiday-wedding-a-spicy-holiday-romance-with-suspense-melissa-dymond/1146419472?ean=9798990395862" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a> or <a href="https://amzn.to/3Z4e8Ml" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/11/24/bookstores-and-booksellers </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/11/24/bookstores-and-booksellers]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">3dc238af-b939-4380-919d-02667d418a9d</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Sun, 24 Nov 2024 17:48:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/e2fec274-48ed-49d5-980f-89c5fd886469/fated-mates-booksellers-revA.mp3" length="85532882" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:28:40</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>13</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-e2fec274-48ed-49d5-980f-89c5fd886469.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S07:11 Best Romance Novels of 2024</title><itunes:title>Best Romance Novels of 2024</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>The Best Romance Novels of 2024! This is our favorite episode of the year, where we get to shout at you about the terrific books we read this year, and tell you all the ways romance continues to excite us. </p><p>It's the best and worst job, because we get to shout about books we love, but we are limited to only ten! And choosing ten favorites is very difficult! That said, we persevered, and here they are: Ten books we loved, books that delivered all the things we love in romance: bold heroines, big heroes, banter, complexity, conflict, impossible situations, and stories that swing for the fences. You're going to love these books.</p><p>This year, you can buy the <a href="https://www.pocketbooksshop.com/fated-mates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates Best of 2024 Book Pack</a> from our friends at <a href="https://www.pocketbooksshop.com/fated-mates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pocket Books Shop in Lancaster, PA</a>, and get eight of the traditionally published books on the list and a Fated Mates sticker! <em>A Love Song For Ricki Wilde</em> (hardcover) and <em>Lips Like Sugar</em> (independently published) can be added to the box for an extra fee. As always, you can add other 2024 books by some of our favorite people (or a signed Sarah MacLean book!) to the box if you’d like. </p><p>We love the idea of you gifting yourself this box (you deserve it!), but maybe you’d like to slide into someone’s text messages with the link as a very excellent gift for you! Or…you can do what Sarah does, and buy the box and spread the love around—sending each of the books to someone on your list. Let us know what you end up doing with these fabulous books, and don’t forget to tag us on Instagram or Threads or Bluesky when you unbox!  </p><p>Check out our “Best Romance Novels” lists from previous years: <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/11/27/0612-best-romance-novels-of-2023" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2023</a>, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/11/27/s0511-the-best-romance-novels-of-2022" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2022</a>, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/11/8/s0409-best-romance-novels-of-2021" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2021</a>, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/11/23/s0316-best-romance-novels-of-2020" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2020</a>, and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/12/1/s0213-sarah-and-jens-best-romance-novels-of-2019" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2019</a>. (We were 5 minutes old in 2018 and didn’t do a list that year), and please tell us what your favorite books of 2024 were!</p><p>If you want other people to discuss this list with, maybe you want to join our Patreon? You get an extra monthly episode from us and access to the incredible readers and brilliant people on the Fated Mates Discord! Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>. </p><p>Our next read along is Judith Ivory's <em>The Proposition</em>, a terrific Pygmalion retelling and one of Sarah's favorites. Find it at your local independent bookseller, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-proposition-judith-ivory/1103372700" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-proposition-49" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-proposition/id6462700133" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://amzn.to/40EipbH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.</p><h2>The Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9781538726709" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Love Song for Ricki Wilde</a> by Tia Williams</li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9781525804809" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Last Days of Lilah Goodluck</a> by Kylie Scott</li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9781250894687" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Everyone I Kissed Since You Got Famous</a> by Mae Marvel</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3CBf4QK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lips Like Sugar</a> by Jess K. Hardy</li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780063281172" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Beast Takes a Bride</a> by Julie Anne Long</li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780593440964" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sex, Lies, and Sensibility</a> by Nikki Payne</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3OgRGul" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hans</a> by S.J. Tilly</li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9781538763582" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">No Ordinary Duchess</a> by Elizabeth Hoyt</li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780778305460" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sleeping with the Frenemy</a> by Natalie Cana</li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780593723944" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rules for Ghosting</a> by Shelly Jay Shore</li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Avon Books</strong>, publishers of Sarah A. Parker's <em>When the Moon Hatched</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook from <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063415805" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local independent bookstore</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/when-the-moon-hatched-sarah-a-parker/1144506650?ean=9780063415843" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/when-the-moon-hatched/id6480164203" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/when-the-moon-hatched" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://amzn.to/4hXHC7e" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.</li><li><strong>Vi Keeland</strong>, author of <em>Bossman</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook from <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781951045067" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local independent bookstore</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/bossman-vi-keeland/1123922141?ean=9781464234637" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a> or <a href="https://amzn.to/4eyHS9T" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.</li><li><strong>Lois Templin</strong>, author of <em>Heart of the Hawk</em>, available in print or ebook from <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781963585223" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local independent bookstore</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/heart-of-the-hawk-lois-templin/1145015700?ean=9781963585223" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a> or <a href="https://amzn.to/4hZpc6a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Melanie Greene</strong>, author of <em>Common Ground</em>, available in ebook from <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/common-ground-melanie-greene/1146275695?ean=2940185784914" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/common-ground-74" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/common-ground/id6670777066" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://amzn.to/4hSRyyL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/11/17/0711-the-best-romance-novels-of-2024 </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Best Romance Novels of 2024! This is our favorite episode of the year, where we get to shout at you about the terrific books we read this year, and tell you all the ways romance continues to excite us. </p><p>It's the best and worst job, because we get to shout about books we love, but we are limited to only ten! And choosing ten favorites is very difficult! That said, we persevered, and here they are: Ten books we loved, books that delivered all the things we love in romance: bold heroines, big heroes, banter, complexity, conflict, impossible situations, and stories that swing for the fences. You're going to love these books.</p><p>This year, you can buy the <a href="https://www.pocketbooksshop.com/fated-mates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates Best of 2024 Book Pack</a> from our friends at <a href="https://www.pocketbooksshop.com/fated-mates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pocket Books Shop in Lancaster, PA</a>, and get eight of the traditionally published books on the list and a Fated Mates sticker! <em>A Love Song For Ricki Wilde</em> (hardcover) and <em>Lips Like Sugar</em> (independently published) can be added to the box for an extra fee. As always, you can add other 2024 books by some of our favorite people (or a signed Sarah MacLean book!) to the box if you’d like. </p><p>We love the idea of you gifting yourself this box (you deserve it!), but maybe you’d like to slide into someone’s text messages with the link as a very excellent gift for you! Or…you can do what Sarah does, and buy the box and spread the love around—sending each of the books to someone on your list. Let us know what you end up doing with these fabulous books, and don’t forget to tag us on Instagram or Threads or Bluesky when you unbox!  </p><p>Check out our “Best Romance Novels” lists from previous years: <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/11/27/0612-best-romance-novels-of-2023" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2023</a>, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/11/27/s0511-the-best-romance-novels-of-2022" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2022</a>, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/11/8/s0409-best-romance-novels-of-2021" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2021</a>, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/11/23/s0316-best-romance-novels-of-2020" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2020</a>, and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/12/1/s0213-sarah-and-jens-best-romance-novels-of-2019" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2019</a>. (We were 5 minutes old in 2018 and didn’t do a list that year), and please tell us what your favorite books of 2024 were!</p><p>If you want other people to discuss this list with, maybe you want to join our Patreon? You get an extra monthly episode from us and access to the incredible readers and brilliant people on the Fated Mates Discord! Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>. </p><p>Our next read along is Judith Ivory's <em>The Proposition</em>, a terrific Pygmalion retelling and one of Sarah's favorites. Find it at your local independent bookseller, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-proposition-judith-ivory/1103372700" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-proposition-49" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-proposition/id6462700133" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://amzn.to/40EipbH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.</p><h2>The Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9781538726709" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Love Song for Ricki Wilde</a> by Tia Williams</li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9781525804809" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Last Days of Lilah Goodluck</a> by Kylie Scott</li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9781250894687" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Everyone I Kissed Since You Got Famous</a> by Mae Marvel</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3CBf4QK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lips Like Sugar</a> by Jess K. Hardy</li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780063281172" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Beast Takes a Bride</a> by Julie Anne Long</li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780593440964" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sex, Lies, and Sensibility</a> by Nikki Payne</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3OgRGul" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hans</a> by S.J. Tilly</li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9781538763582" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">No Ordinary Duchess</a> by Elizabeth Hoyt</li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780778305460" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sleeping with the Frenemy</a> by Natalie Cana</li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780593723944" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rules for Ghosting</a> by Shelly Jay Shore</li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Avon Books</strong>, publishers of Sarah A. Parker's <em>When the Moon Hatched</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook from <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063415805" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local independent bookstore</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/when-the-moon-hatched-sarah-a-parker/1144506650?ean=9780063415843" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/when-the-moon-hatched/id6480164203" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/when-the-moon-hatched" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://amzn.to/4hXHC7e" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.</li><li><strong>Vi Keeland</strong>, author of <em>Bossman</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook from <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781951045067" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local independent bookstore</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/bossman-vi-keeland/1123922141?ean=9781464234637" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a> or <a href="https://amzn.to/4eyHS9T" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.</li><li><strong>Lois Templin</strong>, author of <em>Heart of the Hawk</em>, available in print or ebook from <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781963585223" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local independent bookstore</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/heart-of-the-hawk-lois-templin/1145015700?ean=9781963585223" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a> or <a href="https://amzn.to/4hZpc6a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Melanie Greene</strong>, author of <em>Common Ground</em>, available in ebook from <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/common-ground-melanie-greene/1146275695?ean=2940185784914" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/common-ground-74" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/common-ground/id6670777066" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://amzn.to/4hSRyyL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/11/17/0711-the-best-romance-novels-of-2024 </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/11/17/0711-the-best-romance-novels-of-2024]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">ceab3d96-cb49-4ad8-8d16-187513af8627</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/3db6b045-38a7-4e63-a096-7bdfa9752913/lnDLEDu3Q37CAr6GwGYMZuNi.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 19 Nov 2024 14:11:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/a02579cc-f736-4aea-b08f-4605ced004a9/fated-mates-best-of-2024.mp3" length="86583741" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:29:40</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>12</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-a02579cc-f736-4aea-b08f-4605ced004a9.json" type="application/json+chapters"/><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="video/youtube" title="S07:11 Best Romance Novels of 2024"><podcast:source uri="https://youtu.be/P-Fq5ycucvA"/></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>S07:10 Comfort Reads and Finding Solace in Romance</title><itunes:title>Comfort Reads and Finding Solace in Romance</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Like many people, we don't have much to say this week, and whatever we might have said probably wouldn't have been very eloquent, so we've decided to talk about something we know about: Comfort reading and the way romance provides us solace, peace and hope. </p><p>This week's books are our old reliables--books that we turn to again and again for a reminder that love triumphs, hope sings and romance is resolute. We're so happy you're here; we are, too, for as long as you'll have us.  </p><p>If you want more romance content, maybe you want to join our Patreon, where you get another episode from us each month, and access to the incredible readers and listeners and brilliant people on the Fated Mates discord! Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>. </p><p>Our next read along is Judith Ivory's <em>The Proposition</em>, a terrific Pygmalion retelling and one of Sarah's favorites. Find it at your local independent bookseller, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-proposition-judith-ivory/1103372700" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-proposition-49" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-proposition/id6462700133" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://amzn.to/40EipbH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.</p><h2>The Books </h2><ul><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780062391032" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Earl Takes All</a> by Lorraine Heath</li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9781451649987" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sweet Ruin</a> by Kresley Cole</li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780425255070" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Heart of Blood and Ashes</a> by Milla Vane</li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9781638931737" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Butcher &amp; Blackbird</a> by Brynn Weaver</li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780778386094" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Proposal They Can’t Refuse</a> by Natalie Cana</li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9781985729803" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scoring Off the Field</a> by Naima Simone</li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9781335600820" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">On the Hustle</a> by Adriana Herrera</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Codhyk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Run Posy Run</a> by Cate C. Wells</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/48NzPV6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chain Lightning</a> by Elizabeth Lowell</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40JbhL9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Secret Santa</a> &amp; <a href="https://amzn.to/40JC2zc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">All He Wants for Christmas</a> by Kati Wilde</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/48JBzPq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Proposition</a> by Judith Ivory</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hUMqu6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tycoon</a> by Joanna Shupe </li></ul><br/><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li>We’ve talked about <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/1/17/s0420-the-break-in-case-of-emergency-romance-interstitial?rq=emergency" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“Break in Case of Emergency” reads</a> on an episode back from 2022, and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/10/18/s0311-comfort-reads-with-dani-lacey" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">comfort reads with Dani Lacey</a> back in 2020.</li><li><a href="https://www.kaitlyngreenidge.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kaitlyn Greenidge</a> sent out a substack with <a href="https://open.substack.com/pub/kaitlyngreenidge/p/rest-in-power-dorothy-allison?r=3d3e0&amp;utm_campaign=post&amp;utm_medium=email" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">her 2016 interview with Dorothy Allison</a>, who <a href="https://www.advocate.com/news/dorothy-allison-lesbian-author-obituary" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">died this week</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Pat the Producer and Clayton have a podcast called The BO Boys, and a few weeks ago they <a href="https://youtu.be/qBmgaHZVYgU?si=ZYnTD48H57c81vf-" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">recorded a live episode</a> with guests Sean Donnelly and Brett Arnold. The question was: are we okay?&nbsp;</li><li>If you happen to be in Chester, Connecticut, visit the romance bookstore <a href="https://www.montgomeryandtaggert.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Montgomery &amp; Taggert. You should just call them directly</a> and order that romance card game called Romance vs. The World.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.bookbub.com/profile/2278154280" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Follow Fated Mates on BookBub</a>, you can select your preferred eBook platform and get emails when books we’ve recommended go on sale. You <a href="https://www.bookbub.com/authors/sarah-maclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">can also follow Sarah</a> for information about her books and upcoming releases. </li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Max Monroe</strong>, author of <em>Meet Me at Midnight</em>, available in print or ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/48LGY8G" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon or with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>. </li><li><strong>Blue Box Press</strong>, publisher of Heather Graham's <em>The Ghost of a Chance</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/3UMPIFL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.</li><li><strong>Jaime P. Bradley</strong>, author of <em>Wait: A 3000 Series Novella</em>, available in print or ebook from <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/wait-jaime-p-bradley/1146512381" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/wait-33" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://amzn.to/4fJFLkn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.</li><li><strong>Lumi Gummies,</strong> THC gummies available nationwide. Go to <a href="https://lumigummies.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lumigummies.com</a> and use code FATED50 for free gummies with a limited time $50 off coupon, or use code FATEDMATES for 30% off.</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like many people, we don't have much to say this week, and whatever we might have said probably wouldn't have been very eloquent, so we've decided to talk about something we know about: Comfort reading and the way romance provides us solace, peace and hope. </p><p>This week's books are our old reliables--books that we turn to again and again for a reminder that love triumphs, hope sings and romance is resolute. We're so happy you're here; we are, too, for as long as you'll have us.  </p><p>If you want more romance content, maybe you want to join our Patreon, where you get another episode from us each month, and access to the incredible readers and listeners and brilliant people on the Fated Mates discord! Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>. </p><p>Our next read along is Judith Ivory's <em>The Proposition</em>, a terrific Pygmalion retelling and one of Sarah's favorites. Find it at your local independent bookseller, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-proposition-judith-ivory/1103372700" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-proposition-49" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-proposition/id6462700133" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://amzn.to/40EipbH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.</p><h2>The Books </h2><ul><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780062391032" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Earl Takes All</a> by Lorraine Heath</li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9781451649987" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sweet Ruin</a> by Kresley Cole</li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780425255070" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Heart of Blood and Ashes</a> by Milla Vane</li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9781638931737" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Butcher &amp; Blackbird</a> by Brynn Weaver</li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780778386094" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Proposal They Can’t Refuse</a> by Natalie Cana</li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9781985729803" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scoring Off the Field</a> by Naima Simone</li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9781335600820" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">On the Hustle</a> by Adriana Herrera</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Codhyk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Run Posy Run</a> by Cate C. Wells</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/48NzPV6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chain Lightning</a> by Elizabeth Lowell</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40JbhL9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Secret Santa</a> &amp; <a href="https://amzn.to/40JC2zc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">All He Wants for Christmas</a> by Kati Wilde</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/48JBzPq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Proposition</a> by Judith Ivory</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hUMqu6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tycoon</a> by Joanna Shupe </li></ul><br/><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li>We’ve talked about <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/1/17/s0420-the-break-in-case-of-emergency-romance-interstitial?rq=emergency" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“Break in Case of Emergency” reads</a> on an episode back from 2022, and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/10/18/s0311-comfort-reads-with-dani-lacey" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">comfort reads with Dani Lacey</a> back in 2020.</li><li><a href="https://www.kaitlyngreenidge.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kaitlyn Greenidge</a> sent out a substack with <a href="https://open.substack.com/pub/kaitlyngreenidge/p/rest-in-power-dorothy-allison?r=3d3e0&amp;utm_campaign=post&amp;utm_medium=email" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">her 2016 interview with Dorothy Allison</a>, who <a href="https://www.advocate.com/news/dorothy-allison-lesbian-author-obituary" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">died this week</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Pat the Producer and Clayton have a podcast called The BO Boys, and a few weeks ago they <a href="https://youtu.be/qBmgaHZVYgU?si=ZYnTD48H57c81vf-" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">recorded a live episode</a> with guests Sean Donnelly and Brett Arnold. The question was: are we okay?&nbsp;</li><li>If you happen to be in Chester, Connecticut, visit the romance bookstore <a href="https://www.montgomeryandtaggert.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Montgomery &amp; Taggert. You should just call them directly</a> and order that romance card game called Romance vs. The World.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.bookbub.com/profile/2278154280" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Follow Fated Mates on BookBub</a>, you can select your preferred eBook platform and get emails when books we’ve recommended go on sale. You <a href="https://www.bookbub.com/authors/sarah-maclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">can also follow Sarah</a> for information about her books and upcoming releases. </li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Max Monroe</strong>, author of <em>Meet Me at Midnight</em>, available in print or ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/48LGY8G" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon or with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>. </li><li><strong>Blue Box Press</strong>, publisher of Heather Graham's <em>The Ghost of a Chance</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/3UMPIFL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.</li><li><strong>Jaime P. Bradley</strong>, author of <em>Wait: A 3000 Series Novella</em>, available in print or ebook from <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/wait-jaime-p-bradley/1146512381" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/wait-33" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://amzn.to/4fJFLkn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.</li><li><strong>Lumi Gummies,</strong> THC gummies available nationwide. Go to <a href="https://lumigummies.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lumigummies.com</a> and use code FATED50 for free gummies with a limited time $50 off coupon, or use code FATEDMATES for 30% off.</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/11/12/s0710-comfort-reads-and-finding-solace-in-romance]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">c88ef951-8f40-4f03-a0af-a633b3c195b7</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 11 Nov 2024 21:24:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/4686825d-95e1-4a97-9e44-6385872666bf/fated-mates-comfort-reads.mp3" length="77453808" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:20:15</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>11</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-4686825d-95e1-4a97-9e44-6385872666bf.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>November 2024 Bantr+</title><itunes:title>November 2024 Bantr+</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It’s just a very normal first Tuesday in November, and you need — and deserve — a distraction! We’re here to help with an episode that not only avoids discussing anything that might or might not be happening in the US today, but also lacks anything remotely of consequence (we promise 100% vibes!). </p><p>Today, we’re releasing the November 2024 Bantr+, which is usually exclusive to the Patreon, in the main feed, in case you need it. For no particular reason. (But for real, if you haven’t yet, please go out and vote. Don’t wait! Or, better yet, bring us with you and listen to us while you’re in line!) </p><p>If you need further distraction/comfort/community (and more Bantr+ episodes), you might find what you’re looking for <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">over at the Patreon</a>. </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s just a very normal first Tuesday in November, and you need — and deserve — a distraction! We’re here to help with an episode that not only avoids discussing anything that might or might not be happening in the US today, but also lacks anything remotely of consequence (we promise 100% vibes!). </p><p>Today, we’re releasing the November 2024 Bantr+, which is usually exclusive to the Patreon, in the main feed, in case you need it. For no particular reason. (But for real, if you haven’t yet, please go out and vote. Don’t wait! Or, better yet, bring us with you and listen to us while you’re in line!) </p><p>If you need further distraction/comfort/community (and more Bantr+ episodes), you might find what you’re looking for <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">over at the Patreon</a>. </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/11/4/november-2024-bantr]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">e0bd1895-7c81-44b0-83b9-f352681f2065</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/159fe5cd-787f-48e2-ac9c-23338b7ab264/ynm1viaiUAcH9ozSYCEMKFg4.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 05 Nov 2024 03:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/0a0f45b7-1f4a-480b-8800-1d3901cbf4f2/fated-mates-bantr-november.mp3" length="69633706" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:12:00</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>10</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season></item><item><title>S07:09 Mermaid Romance with Zoraida Córdova/Zoey Castile</title><itunes:title>Mermaid Romance with Zoraida Córdova/Zoey Castile</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Today we're talking mermaids with our friend, Zóraida Cordova, an author of many genres who also writes romance under the name Zoey Castile. We talk about the appeal of mermaids, why we're so drawn to them as creatures, their history in mythologies around the globe, and yes, we get into biology, because we give the people what they want. </p><p>If you want more romance content, maybe you want to join our Patreon, where you get another episode from us each month, and access to the incredible readers and listeners and brilliant people on the Fated Mates discord! Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>. </p><h2><strong>The Books﻿</strong></h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3NUB2Ap" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Captive Merman’s Promise</a> by Zoey Castile</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3UF8Fdh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mermaids Never Drown</a> edited by Zoraida Córdova and Natalie C. Parker</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3UEuZUB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kiss the Girl</a> by Zoraida Córdova</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3UCngq0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Penguin Book of Mermaids</a></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3YUmpUh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fathomfolk</a> by Eliza Chan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/48FytvF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Witchful Thinking</a> by Celestine Martin</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3O0JgXH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Mermaid’s Knight</a> by Jill Myles</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3YRqdW7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Soul Song</a> by Marjorie M. Liu</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3AEI0Xc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tentacles and Triathlons</a> by Ashley Bennett</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3YSJTZY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">One Night Standard</a> by E.F. Dodd</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40tyYqL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Siren’s Secret</a> by Debbie Herbert</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3NV5RFi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Whispers of the Deep</a> by Emma Hamm</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3UCEu6O" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wish out of Water</a> by Holley Trent</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4fe8ldM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Upon a Starlit Tide</a> by Kell Woods</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4fsiKmx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">To Kill a Kingdom</a> by Alexandra Christo</li></ul><br/><h2><strong>The Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Welcome <a href="https://zoraidacordova.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Zoraida Cordóva</a>, our resident mermaid expert. Well, everyone’s mermaid expert.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.lauravonholt.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Laura Von Holt</a> is another one of our faves, and she has a mermaid podcast you might want to check out.</li><li>The <a href="https://youtu.be/UwVNkfCov1k?si=I99GK8c5sDSGBguA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ocean is so deep,</a> we don’t even know <a href="https://youtu.be/Q5C7sqVe2Vg?si=nopXKtOyyNEE1Vk9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">what’s down there</a>!&nbsp;</li><li>Have you ever googled <a href="https://www.pacificwhale.org/humpback-whale-penis-extrusion-and-mating/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a whale penis</a>?&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.annualornaments.com/collections/december-diamonds-merman-mermaid-ornaments" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Merman christmas ornaments</a>. What a world.&nbsp;</li><li>A huge group of YA books sold all at once:&nbsp; Wake by Amanda Hocking, Fins are Forever by Tera Lynne Childs, Tempest Rising by Tracy Wolff, Of Poseidon by Anna Banks, Sirena by Donna Jo Napoli</li><li>Maybe you’ve read a Namor comic, or watched  <a href="https://youtu.be/WDkg3h8PCVU?si=vfg6R-qq5ytKmetB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Aquaman with Jason Momoa</a>, or <a href="https://youtu.be/r2OTC3lhbWw?si=nuo4Tb2g6JveEmtm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Splash</a> with Tom Hanks and Darryl Hannah, or <a href="https://youtu.be/kpGo2_d3oYE?si=oEvtVeqn9P2CNzpD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">either of the</a> <a href="https://youtu.be/GC_mV1IpjWA?si=0sMAsJ_MU7qWLQ1a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">two versions</a> of Disney’s <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Little_Mermaid" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Little Mermaid.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81439780" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MerPeople</a> is a Netflix documentary about professional mermaids. <a href="https://underwaternewyork.com/all-underwater-objects/tag/The+Coral+Room" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Coral Room</a> was a bar in New York the features professional mermaids, such as <a href="https://www.julieatlasmuz.com/mermaid" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Julie Atlas Muz</a>.</li></ul><br/><p>The Sponsors</p><ul><li><strong>Avon Books</strong>, publishers of Alyssa Cole's <em>How to Find a Princess,</em> available in print, ebook, and audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/4ejzGKg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/how-to-find-a-princess-alyssa-cole/1137532654?ean=9780062934000" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/how-to-find-a-princess" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> &amp; <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/how-to-find-a-princess/id1528946930" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or with <a href="https://amzn.to/4ejzGKg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Madison Score</strong>, author of <em>Happily Never After</em>, available in print or ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/3ChqRDF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a> or <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/happily-never-after-madison-score/1146433413?ean=9798886439540" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a><a href="https://amzn.to/4huvCKj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">.</a></li><li><strong>Alyxandra Harvey</strong>, author of <em>The Scandalous Spinster</em>, available in print or ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/3OgKhvf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>MJ Etkind</strong>, author of <em>Dishwasher Safe</em>, available in print or ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/3NWllbX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today we're talking mermaids with our friend, Zóraida Cordova, an author of many genres who also writes romance under the name Zoey Castile. We talk about the appeal of mermaids, why we're so drawn to them as creatures, their history in mythologies around the globe, and yes, we get into biology, because we give the people what they want. </p><p>If you want more romance content, maybe you want to join our Patreon, where you get another episode from us each month, and access to the incredible readers and listeners and brilliant people on the Fated Mates discord! Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>. </p><h2><strong>The Books﻿</strong></h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3NUB2Ap" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Captive Merman’s Promise</a> by Zoey Castile</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3UF8Fdh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mermaids Never Drown</a> edited by Zoraida Córdova and Natalie C. Parker</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3UEuZUB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kiss the Girl</a> by Zoraida Córdova</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3UCngq0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Penguin Book of Mermaids</a></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3YUmpUh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fathomfolk</a> by Eliza Chan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/48FytvF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Witchful Thinking</a> by Celestine Martin</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3O0JgXH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Mermaid’s Knight</a> by Jill Myles</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3YRqdW7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Soul Song</a> by Marjorie M. Liu</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3AEI0Xc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tentacles and Triathlons</a> by Ashley Bennett</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3YSJTZY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">One Night Standard</a> by E.F. Dodd</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40tyYqL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Siren’s Secret</a> by Debbie Herbert</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3NV5RFi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Whispers of the Deep</a> by Emma Hamm</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3UCEu6O" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wish out of Water</a> by Holley Trent</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4fe8ldM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Upon a Starlit Tide</a> by Kell Woods</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4fsiKmx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">To Kill a Kingdom</a> by Alexandra Christo</li></ul><br/><h2><strong>The Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Welcome <a href="https://zoraidacordova.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Zoraida Cordóva</a>, our resident mermaid expert. Well, everyone’s mermaid expert.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.lauravonholt.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Laura Von Holt</a> is another one of our faves, and she has a mermaid podcast you might want to check out.</li><li>The <a href="https://youtu.be/UwVNkfCov1k?si=I99GK8c5sDSGBguA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ocean is so deep,</a> we don’t even know <a href="https://youtu.be/Q5C7sqVe2Vg?si=nopXKtOyyNEE1Vk9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">what’s down there</a>!&nbsp;</li><li>Have you ever googled <a href="https://www.pacificwhale.org/humpback-whale-penis-extrusion-and-mating/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a whale penis</a>?&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.annualornaments.com/collections/december-diamonds-merman-mermaid-ornaments" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Merman christmas ornaments</a>. What a world.&nbsp;</li><li>A huge group of YA books sold all at once:&nbsp; Wake by Amanda Hocking, Fins are Forever by Tera Lynne Childs, Tempest Rising by Tracy Wolff, Of Poseidon by Anna Banks, Sirena by Donna Jo Napoli</li><li>Maybe you’ve read a Namor comic, or watched  <a href="https://youtu.be/WDkg3h8PCVU?si=vfg6R-qq5ytKmetB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Aquaman with Jason Momoa</a>, or <a href="https://youtu.be/r2OTC3lhbWw?si=nuo4Tb2g6JveEmtm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Splash</a> with Tom Hanks and Darryl Hannah, or <a href="https://youtu.be/kpGo2_d3oYE?si=oEvtVeqn9P2CNzpD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">either of the</a> <a href="https://youtu.be/GC_mV1IpjWA?si=0sMAsJ_MU7qWLQ1a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">two versions</a> of Disney’s <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Little_Mermaid" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Little Mermaid.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81439780" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MerPeople</a> is a Netflix documentary about professional mermaids. <a href="https://underwaternewyork.com/all-underwater-objects/tag/The+Coral+Room" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Coral Room</a> was a bar in New York the features professional mermaids, such as <a href="https://www.julieatlasmuz.com/mermaid" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Julie Atlas Muz</a>.</li></ul><br/><p>The Sponsors</p><ul><li><strong>Avon Books</strong>, publishers of Alyssa Cole's <em>How to Find a Princess,</em> available in print, ebook, and audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/4ejzGKg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/how-to-find-a-princess-alyssa-cole/1137532654?ean=9780062934000" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/how-to-find-a-princess" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> &amp; <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/how-to-find-a-princess/id1528946930" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or with <a href="https://amzn.to/4ejzGKg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Madison Score</strong>, author of <em>Happily Never After</em>, available in print or ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/3ChqRDF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a> or <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/happily-never-after-madison-score/1146433413?ean=9798886439540" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a><a href="https://amzn.to/4huvCKj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">.</a></li><li><strong>Alyxandra Harvey</strong>, author of <em>The Scandalous Spinster</em>, available in print or ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/3OgKhvf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>MJ Etkind</strong>, author of <em>Dishwasher Safe</em>, available in print or ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/3NWllbX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/11/4/0hob4h4wqgyvdgs2qp85dv6bdk6a6h]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">898d169f-1af7-4a70-b4df-b65eb8782cec</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 04 Nov 2024 20:45:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/aef0084a-9165-42bc-a7d4-fef153c96242/fated-mates-mermaids.mp3" length="82446837" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:25:53</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>9</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-aef0084a-9165-42bc-a7d4-fef153c96242.json" type="application/json+chapters"/><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="video/youtube" title="S07:09 Mermaid Romance with Zoraida Córdova/Zoey Castile"><podcast:source uri="https://youtu.be/Mu_-wwy0-QA"/></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>S07:08 I Read Dead People: Ghosts, Morticians, and the Dead in Romance</title><itunes:title>I Read Dead People: Ghosts, Morticians, and the Dead in Romance</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This is a bit different than our usual Halloween adjacent episodes -- we're talking about the rise of romance centered around ghostly secondary characters (Jen) and funeral homes and mortuaries (Sarah). These two themes have become more and more prevalent in romance over the last few years, and we talk about how and why they've risen and what they might mean -- considering the way romance reflects the world we live in. </p><p>We talk about the pandemic, about grief, about community and about the way humor and love find their ways into the cracks left by death.</p><p>If you want more romance content, maybe you want to join our Patreon, where you get another episode from us each month, and access to the incredible readers and listeners and brilliant people on the Fated Mates discord! Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>. </p><p>Also! We stay phonebanking! Join us this Saturday and next to phonebank with fellow romance lovers. Jen &amp; Sarah are joined by special guests who will knock your socks off! Learn more and register at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/fatedstates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/fatedstates</a>. </p><p>If phonebanking isn't your thing, we're also raising money for downticket house and senate races, because state legislatures may not be sexy, but they sure hold all the power. Learn more, and give what you can at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/givingcircle" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/givingcircle</a>.  </p><h2>The Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3YpwzLb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Undertaking of Hart and Mercy</a> by Megan Bannen</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3A52bgZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Dead Romantics</a> by Ashley Poston</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/48m6WPS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Morbidly Yours</a> by Ivy Fairbanks</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/48l3zJ1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pumpkin Spice &amp; Poltergeist</a> by Ali K. Mulford &amp; K. Elle Morrison</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/48pujbp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rules for Ghosting</a> by Shelly Jay Shore</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3YovH9h" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Ghost in Shining Armor</a> by Therese Beharrie</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3YEDpxw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Undertaking Love</a> by Megan Montgomery</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3NHLqeU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Inheritance</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/3NJTAn3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Mirror</a> by Nora Roberts</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40rJWga" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Temple of Persephone</a> by Isabella Kamal</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40eX4W6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Haunted Ever After</a> by Jen DeLuca</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3CcG08Y" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mourning Wood</a> by Heather Orgeron</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4e1XzWz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Big Witch Energy</a> by Molly Harper</li></ul><br/><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li>We have <a href="https://www.mobilize.us/indivisible/event/665094/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">one more Fated States phone bank</a>, or maybe you want to try <a href="https://volunteerblue.org/take-action-ballot-cure/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ballot curing</a> phone banking, which might feel less stressful.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Uk9nfN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Reborn Yesterday</a> by&nbsp;Tessa Bailey was released on March 16th, 2020. Three days later, <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/here-are-stay-home-orders-across-country-n1168736" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">California became the first state</a> to give a “stay at home” order. On March 25th, we had an episode <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/3/24/s0229-health-care-workers-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">celebrating health care workers</a>. Even at that time, we wondered how romance would process the pandemic, and <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/05/how-will-we-remember-covid-19-pandemic/618397/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">we weren’t the only ones.</a> In May 0f 2020, the New York Times<a href="https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/05/new-york-times-cover-sunday-coronavirus-death-toll-memorial/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> published the names of 100,000 people who died</a>, with the headline An Incalculable Loss; as of October of 2024, over 7 million people have died in the Coronavirus pandemic.&nbsp;&nbsp;</li><li>Remember, remember the 5th of November is from <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes_Night" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Guy Fawkes</a> and maybe you saw it in the movie <a href="https://youtu.be/PfBCnUnofNU?si=BbwFbep2xCOSJqfH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">V is for Vendetta</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Tim Walz called Elon Musk a dipshit last week, Eminem (who is hot now?) showed up at a Kamala rally, as did Beyonce.&nbsp;</li><li>The <a href="https://latino.si.edu/learn/teaching-and-learning-resources/day-dead-resources" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Day of the Dead</a> is an important celebration meant to honor and commemorate those who have died, and <a href="https://nationalmuseumofmexicanart.org/events/dia-de-muertos-where-the-past-is-present" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chicago’s National Museum of Mexican Art</a> has a different exhibit to celebrate every year.</li><li>Jen discovered there is an entire subgenre of books with ghostly banging that you might like, such as <a href="https://amzn.to/3YpLtAO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">TBR: Dead but Well Read</a> or <a href="https://amzn.to/4hozQCQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gang of Ghouls</a>, but that don’t seem to be part of the pattern at hand we’re talking about. But you know.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://fee.org/articles/we-know-mick-jagger-s-favorite-economist-and-not-just-because-of-his-libertarian-streak/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mick Jagger</a> went (and dropped out) of the London School of Economics. Who knew.</li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Brianna Bancroft</strong>, author of the <u>Dash of Desire</u> novella series<em>, The Businesswoman and the Bartender; The Librarian and the Mechanic;</em> and <em>The Maestro and the Roofer</em> available in ebook or <a href="https://amzn.to/3AoxRxK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Robyn Peterman</strong>, author of <em>Fashionably Dead</em>, available in print, ebook, or audiobook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/3BV3nDZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Katherine Grant</strong>, host of the <em>Historical Romance Sampler Podcast. </em><a href="https://linktr.ee/historicalromancesampler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Listen now on your favorite podcasting app.</a></li><li><strong>M. Jacqueline Murray</strong>, author of <em>Out of Time</em>, available in print, ebook, or audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/40ja4Kb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/out-of-time-m-jacqueline-murray/1141394476" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/out-of-time-157" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>,  <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/out-of-time/id1621195028" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://www.mjacquelinemurray.com/out-of-time" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">in print, direct from the author</a>.</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a bit different than our usual Halloween adjacent episodes -- we're talking about the rise of romance centered around ghostly secondary characters (Jen) and funeral homes and mortuaries (Sarah). These two themes have become more and more prevalent in romance over the last few years, and we talk about how and why they've risen and what they might mean -- considering the way romance reflects the world we live in. </p><p>We talk about the pandemic, about grief, about community and about the way humor and love find their ways into the cracks left by death.</p><p>If you want more romance content, maybe you want to join our Patreon, where you get another episode from us each month, and access to the incredible readers and listeners and brilliant people on the Fated Mates discord! Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>. </p><p>Also! We stay phonebanking! Join us this Saturday and next to phonebank with fellow romance lovers. Jen &amp; Sarah are joined by special guests who will knock your socks off! Learn more and register at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/fatedstates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/fatedstates</a>. </p><p>If phonebanking isn't your thing, we're also raising money for downticket house and senate races, because state legislatures may not be sexy, but they sure hold all the power. Learn more, and give what you can at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/givingcircle" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/givingcircle</a>.  </p><h2>The Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3YpwzLb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Undertaking of Hart and Mercy</a> by Megan Bannen</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3A52bgZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Dead Romantics</a> by Ashley Poston</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/48m6WPS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Morbidly Yours</a> by Ivy Fairbanks</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/48l3zJ1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pumpkin Spice &amp; Poltergeist</a> by Ali K. Mulford &amp; K. Elle Morrison</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/48pujbp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rules for Ghosting</a> by Shelly Jay Shore</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3YovH9h" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Ghost in Shining Armor</a> by Therese Beharrie</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3YEDpxw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Undertaking Love</a> by Megan Montgomery</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3NHLqeU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Inheritance</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/3NJTAn3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Mirror</a> by Nora Roberts</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40rJWga" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Temple of Persephone</a> by Isabella Kamal</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/40eX4W6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Haunted Ever After</a> by Jen DeLuca</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3CcG08Y" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mourning Wood</a> by Heather Orgeron</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4e1XzWz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Big Witch Energy</a> by Molly Harper</li></ul><br/><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li>We have <a href="https://www.mobilize.us/indivisible/event/665094/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">one more Fated States phone bank</a>, or maybe you want to try <a href="https://volunteerblue.org/take-action-ballot-cure/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ballot curing</a> phone banking, which might feel less stressful.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Uk9nfN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Reborn Yesterday</a> by&nbsp;Tessa Bailey was released on March 16th, 2020. Three days later, <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/here-are-stay-home-orders-across-country-n1168736" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">California became the first state</a> to give a “stay at home” order. On March 25th, we had an episode <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/3/24/s0229-health-care-workers-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">celebrating health care workers</a>. Even at that time, we wondered how romance would process the pandemic, and <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/05/how-will-we-remember-covid-19-pandemic/618397/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">we weren’t the only ones.</a> In May 0f 2020, the New York Times<a href="https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/05/new-york-times-cover-sunday-coronavirus-death-toll-memorial/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> published the names of 100,000 people who died</a>, with the headline An Incalculable Loss; as of October of 2024, over 7 million people have died in the Coronavirus pandemic.&nbsp;&nbsp;</li><li>Remember, remember the 5th of November is from <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes_Night" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Guy Fawkes</a> and maybe you saw it in the movie <a href="https://youtu.be/PfBCnUnofNU?si=BbwFbep2xCOSJqfH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">V is for Vendetta</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Tim Walz called Elon Musk a dipshit last week, Eminem (who is hot now?) showed up at a Kamala rally, as did Beyonce.&nbsp;</li><li>The <a href="https://latino.si.edu/learn/teaching-and-learning-resources/day-dead-resources" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Day of the Dead</a> is an important celebration meant to honor and commemorate those who have died, and <a href="https://nationalmuseumofmexicanart.org/events/dia-de-muertos-where-the-past-is-present" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chicago’s National Museum of Mexican Art</a> has a different exhibit to celebrate every year.</li><li>Jen discovered there is an entire subgenre of books with ghostly banging that you might like, such as <a href="https://amzn.to/3YpLtAO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">TBR: Dead but Well Read</a> or <a href="https://amzn.to/4hozQCQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gang of Ghouls</a>, but that don’t seem to be part of the pattern at hand we’re talking about. But you know.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://fee.org/articles/we-know-mick-jagger-s-favorite-economist-and-not-just-because-of-his-libertarian-streak/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mick Jagger</a> went (and dropped out) of the London School of Economics. Who knew.</li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Brianna Bancroft</strong>, author of the <u>Dash of Desire</u> novella series<em>, The Businesswoman and the Bartender; The Librarian and the Mechanic;</em> and <em>The Maestro and the Roofer</em> available in ebook or <a href="https://amzn.to/3AoxRxK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Robyn Peterman</strong>, author of <em>Fashionably Dead</em>, available in print, ebook, or audiobook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/3BV3nDZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Katherine Grant</strong>, host of the <em>Historical Romance Sampler Podcast. </em><a href="https://linktr.ee/historicalromancesampler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Listen now on your favorite podcasting app.</a></li><li><strong>M. Jacqueline Murray</strong>, author of <em>Out of Time</em>, available in print, ebook, or audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/40ja4Kb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/out-of-time-m-jacqueline-murray/1141394476" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/out-of-time-157" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>,  <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/out-of-time/id1621195028" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://www.mjacquelinemurray.com/out-of-time" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">in print, direct from the author</a>.</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/10/26/s0708-i-see-dead-people-grief-amp-the-pandemic-in-romance]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">4d2fe846-4f39-4e81-8161-bcd7687b7661</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Sat, 26 Oct 2024 22:43:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/3d9f44cb-560e-44b8-9ea1-fdecf025ebee/fated-mates-i-read-dead-people.mp3" length="108831804" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:53:22</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>8</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-3d9f44cb-560e-44b8-9ea1-fdecf025ebee.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S07:07 The Seven Deadly Sins: Let&apos;s Fire Up Wikipedia</title><itunes:title>The Seven Deadly Sins:  Let&apos;s Fire Up Wikipedia</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Happy anniversary, Firebirds! Seven years ago this week, we launched Fated Mates with our first Episode, "A Wolf Without a Foot," in which we planned a tight 18 episode series, here and gone before you'd know it. Seven years later, we're still here, and we're celebrating by doing the obvious: Talking about Sin! </p><p>We've taken the seven deadly sins and assigned a great romance novel to each one, and we've dug deep into the dark recesses of our minds, our bookshelves and our psyches to do it. This is a long one (obviously), and full of some real "abandon all hope, ye who enter here" vibes. Thanks for being with us new listeners and longstanding ones...we love you! </p><p>If you want more romance content, maybe you want to join our Patreon, where you get another episode from us each month, and access to the incredible readers and listeners and brilliant people on the Fated Mates discord! Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>. </p><p>Also! We stay phonebanking! Join us this Saturday and next to phonebank with fellow romance lovers. Jen &amp; Sarah are joined by special guests who will knock your socks off! Learn more and register at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/fatedstates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/fatedstates</a>. </p><p>If phonebanking isn't your thing, we're also raising money for downticket house and senate races, because state legislatures may not be sexy, but they sure hold all the power. Learn more, and give what you can at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/givingcircle" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/givingcircle</a>. </p><h2>The Books</h2><p><strong>Envy</strong></p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/4fwfKFl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barbarian’s Taming</a> by Ruby Dixon</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3YdpZY4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sin and Ink</a> by Naima Simone</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3Ud5byn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Staying in Vegas</a> by Sam Mariano</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/48eBBOQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Earl Takes All</a> by Lorraine Heath</p><p><strong>﻿Lust</strong></p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3YutSsS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Uncivilized</a> by Sawyer Bennett</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/4eSms8D" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bass-Ackwards</a> by Eris Adderly</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/4dY7MDE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stolen Desire</a> by Robin Lovett</p><p><strong>Gluttony</strong></p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/4fcXctl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fury on Fire</a> by Sophie Jordan</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3C4yCwn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cajun Hot</a> by Nikita Black</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/4eT47Ij" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Beautiful Stranger</a> by Christina Lauren</p><p><strong>Greed</strong></p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3UjqKgX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Claiming the Courtesan</a> by Anna Campbell</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/40fFAJi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Welcome to Temptation</a> by Jennifer Crusie</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/407P6hs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">One and Done</a> by Cynthia Sax</p><p><strong>﻿Sloth</strong></p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/4feBeGk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hook, Line, and Sinker</a> by Tessa Bailey</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3YiGcei" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fan Service</a> by Rosie Danan</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/4hddBjo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Don’t Let Your Dukes Grow Up to be Scoundrels</a> by Louisa Darling</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3UkeNrr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scandalous Desires</a> by Elizabeth Hoyt</p><p><strong>Wrath</strong></p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3Ui8OU0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Heart of Blood and Ashes</a> by Milla Vane&nbsp;</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/4dW8Es8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wait for It</a> by Molly O’Keefe</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/4ffuqrV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nero</a> by SJ Tilly</p><p><strong>Pride</strong></p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3YgMYkJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Bride Price</a> by Anne Mallory</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/4e42BlK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Double Standards</a> by Judith McNaught</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/4fcZg4v" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Beast Takes a Bride</a> by Julie Anne Long</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/4eJlBa9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Flowers from the Storm</a> by Laura Kinsale</p><h2>The Notes</h2><p>As we all know, <a href="https://youtu.be/skLIlLT7CCw?si=9MstPaRjk9LWljvz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">there are 3 kinds of pipe.</a></p><p>The <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_deadly_sins" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Seven Deadly Sins</a> are:&nbsp; sloth, wrath, gluttony, envy, lust, greed, and pride. In case you not a sinner, you may be more familiar with the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_virtues" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">seven virtues</a>: humility, charity, chastity, gratitude, temperance, patience, and diligence.&nbsp;</p><p>Historically, it was <a href="https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/lords/1921/jun/28/deceased-brothers-widows-marriage-bill" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">illegal for a man to marry his brother’s widow</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>“I am in lust with Dain,” is a line from <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/11/25/s0212-lord-of-scoundrels" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lord of Scoundrels</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>With some further researching, Jen discovered that there <a href="https://www.stephenfry.com/7deadlysins/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">is a podcast by Stephen Fry about the 7 Deadly Sins.</a></p><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li>Blue Box Press, publishers of Jennifer Probst's <em>Book of the Month,</em> available in print, ebook, and audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/4fcdRx3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/book-of-the-month-jennifer-probst/1145830075?ean=9781963135244" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/book-of-the-month" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> &amp; <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/book-of-the-month/id6504501373" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>.</li><li>Kylie Scott, author of <em>Text Appeal</em>, available in print, ebook, or audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/3NyrOKb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/text-appeal-kylie-scott/1145642913?ean=9780648457374" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/text-appeal-5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> &amp; <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/text-appeal/id6503262514" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or in audiobook <a href="https://amzn.to/4huvCKj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from Audible.</a></li><li>Stephanie Rose, author of <em>Safe With Me</em>, available in print or ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/3UjPrtv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>. </li><li>Laura Moher, author of <em>What She's Having</em>, available in print, ebook, or audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/3UhHgxO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/what-shes-having-laura-moher/1143940816?ean=9781728278087" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/what-she-s-having" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> &amp; <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/what-shes-having/id6451455958" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>.</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy anniversary, Firebirds! Seven years ago this week, we launched Fated Mates with our first Episode, "A Wolf Without a Foot," in which we planned a tight 18 episode series, here and gone before you'd know it. Seven years later, we're still here, and we're celebrating by doing the obvious: Talking about Sin! </p><p>We've taken the seven deadly sins and assigned a great romance novel to each one, and we've dug deep into the dark recesses of our minds, our bookshelves and our psyches to do it. This is a long one (obviously), and full of some real "abandon all hope, ye who enter here" vibes. Thanks for being with us new listeners and longstanding ones...we love you! </p><p>If you want more romance content, maybe you want to join our Patreon, where you get another episode from us each month, and access to the incredible readers and listeners and brilliant people on the Fated Mates discord! Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>. </p><p>Also! We stay phonebanking! Join us this Saturday and next to phonebank with fellow romance lovers. Jen &amp; Sarah are joined by special guests who will knock your socks off! Learn more and register at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/fatedstates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/fatedstates</a>. </p><p>If phonebanking isn't your thing, we're also raising money for downticket house and senate races, because state legislatures may not be sexy, but they sure hold all the power. Learn more, and give what you can at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/givingcircle" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/givingcircle</a>. </p><h2>The Books</h2><p><strong>Envy</strong></p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/4fwfKFl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barbarian’s Taming</a> by Ruby Dixon</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3YdpZY4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sin and Ink</a> by Naima Simone</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3Ud5byn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Staying in Vegas</a> by Sam Mariano</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/48eBBOQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Earl Takes All</a> by Lorraine Heath</p><p><strong>﻿Lust</strong></p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3YutSsS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Uncivilized</a> by Sawyer Bennett</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/4eSms8D" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bass-Ackwards</a> by Eris Adderly</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/4dY7MDE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stolen Desire</a> by Robin Lovett</p><p><strong>Gluttony</strong></p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/4fcXctl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fury on Fire</a> by Sophie Jordan</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3C4yCwn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cajun Hot</a> by Nikita Black</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/4eT47Ij" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Beautiful Stranger</a> by Christina Lauren</p><p><strong>Greed</strong></p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3UjqKgX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Claiming the Courtesan</a> by Anna Campbell</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/40fFAJi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Welcome to Temptation</a> by Jennifer Crusie</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/407P6hs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">One and Done</a> by Cynthia Sax</p><p><strong>﻿Sloth</strong></p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/4feBeGk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hook, Line, and Sinker</a> by Tessa Bailey</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3YiGcei" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fan Service</a> by Rosie Danan</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/4hddBjo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Don’t Let Your Dukes Grow Up to be Scoundrels</a> by Louisa Darling</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3UkeNrr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scandalous Desires</a> by Elizabeth Hoyt</p><p><strong>Wrath</strong></p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3Ui8OU0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Heart of Blood and Ashes</a> by Milla Vane&nbsp;</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/4dW8Es8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wait for It</a> by Molly O’Keefe</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/4ffuqrV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nero</a> by SJ Tilly</p><p><strong>Pride</strong></p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3YgMYkJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Bride Price</a> by Anne Mallory</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/4e42BlK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Double Standards</a> by Judith McNaught</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/4fcZg4v" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Beast Takes a Bride</a> by Julie Anne Long</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/4eJlBa9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Flowers from the Storm</a> by Laura Kinsale</p><h2>The Notes</h2><p>As we all know, <a href="https://youtu.be/skLIlLT7CCw?si=9MstPaRjk9LWljvz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">there are 3 kinds of pipe.</a></p><p>The <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_deadly_sins" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Seven Deadly Sins</a> are:&nbsp; sloth, wrath, gluttony, envy, lust, greed, and pride. In case you not a sinner, you may be more familiar with the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_virtues" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">seven virtues</a>: humility, charity, chastity, gratitude, temperance, patience, and diligence.&nbsp;</p><p>Historically, it was <a href="https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/lords/1921/jun/28/deceased-brothers-widows-marriage-bill" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">illegal for a man to marry his brother’s widow</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>“I am in lust with Dain,” is a line from <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/11/25/s0212-lord-of-scoundrels" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lord of Scoundrels</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>With some further researching, Jen discovered that there <a href="https://www.stephenfry.com/7deadlysins/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">is a podcast by Stephen Fry about the 7 Deadly Sins.</a></p><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li>Blue Box Press, publishers of Jennifer Probst's <em>Book of the Month,</em> available in print, ebook, and audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/4fcdRx3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/book-of-the-month-jennifer-probst/1145830075?ean=9781963135244" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/book-of-the-month" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> &amp; <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/book-of-the-month/id6504501373" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>.</li><li>Kylie Scott, author of <em>Text Appeal</em>, available in print, ebook, or audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/3NyrOKb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/text-appeal-kylie-scott/1145642913?ean=9780648457374" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/text-appeal-5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> &amp; <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/text-appeal/id6503262514" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or in audiobook <a href="https://amzn.to/4huvCKj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from Audible.</a></li><li>Stephanie Rose, author of <em>Safe With Me</em>, available in print or ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/3UjPrtv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>. </li><li>Laura Moher, author of <em>What She's Having</em>, available in print, ebook, or audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/3UhHgxO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/what-shes-having-laura-moher/1143940816?ean=9781728278087" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/what-she-s-having" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> &amp; <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/what-shes-having/id6451455958" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>.</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/10/20/s0707-the-seven-deadly-sins]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">8fd72843-1a91-437e-bac6-d8aa1904296b</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/e896fda6-97ef-4593-a6f2-264ee0d3d180/fated-mates-seven-deadly-sins.mp3" length="111897180" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:56:07</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>7</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-e896fda6-97ef-4593-a6f2-264ee0d3d180.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S07:06 The Everything I Left Unsaid duology</title><itunes:title>The Everything I Left Unsaid duology</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We're starting our Season 7 read alongs off with a bang! M. O'Keefe's Everything I Left Unsaid duology is some of the best contemporary romance out there, and if you need proof, here it is: The first book ends on a cliffhanger and it holds a prime spot on Jen's keeper shelf. We're talking about all the ways this book works, the way O'Keefe wields tension and description and narrative voice and point of view like an absolute master and delivers a series that is not only deeply representative of the contemporary romance of the mid 2010s, but also a near perfect example of how contemporary can fire on all cylinders. Clear your calendar, you're going to want to read all four books in this series back to back.</p><p>If you want more romance content, maybe you want to join our Patreon, where you get another episode from us each month, and access to the incredible readers and listeners and brilliant people on the Fated Mates discord! Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>.</p><p>Also! We're back on the phonebanking train this election season! Join us Saturdays between now and Election Day to phonebank with fellow romance lovers. Jen &amp; Sarah are joined by special guests who will knock your socks off! Learn more and register at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/fatedstates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/fatedstates</a>. If phonebanking isn't your thing, we're also raising money for downticket house and senate races, because state legislatures may not be sexy, but they sure hold all the power. Learn more, and give what you can at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/givingcircle" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/givingcircle</a>. </p><h2>The Books </h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4h4jiA4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Everything I Left Unsaid</a> by M. O'Keefe</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4h2NOdF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Truth About Him</a> by M. O'Keefe</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3BTCv7i" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Burn Down the Night</a> by M. O'Keefe</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3UajBzD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wait for It</a> by M. O'Keefe</li></ul><br/><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li>Raise a glass to the Old School Romance Book Club on Facebook. They had their final zoom on October 14, 2024.</li><li>Problematic vs. Dated originated with a discussion of Rocky Horror Picture Show on Twitter, <a href="https://www.riseservices.org/the-influence-of-the-rhps-on-the-queer-movement/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a conversation that has been ongoing for a long time</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Just to be clear, when Jen said “it’s 2015 so it’s in past” she’s referencing that although some books were written in present (like 50 Shades, published in 2011), the wholesale shift to present tense that we see in romance now hadn’t happened yet.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.strangulationtraininginstitute.com/all-abusers-are-not-equal-new-ipv-research-reveals-an-indicator-of-deadly-abuse/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Researchers and law enforcement professionals have determined that nonfatal strangulation is a leading indicator of escalating violence in a relationship and an important risk factor for homicide in women</a>, and the fact that <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/25/opinion/teen-sex-choking.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">choking is on the rise in teenage sexual encounters</a> is especially troubling. </li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li>1001 Dark Nights, publishers of Audrey Carlan's <em>A Christmas Auction</em>, available in print, ebook, and audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/48gsFIT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.</li><li>Aethon Books, publishers of Belle Walker's <em>Blood and War</em>, available in print, ebook and audiobook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/3BORyiL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.  </li><li><a href="https://lumigummies.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lumi Gummies</a>--use the code FATED50 for $50 off your first order, or use the code FATEDMATES for 30% off your next order.</li><li>Meghan Quinn, author of <em>How My Neighbor Stole Christmas</em>, available in print, ebook, audiobook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/4eH236r" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li></ul><br/><p>Don't forget to keep listening for an audio excerpt of June Westwood's <em>Grave Temptation</em>, available in print, ebook, audiobook or <a href="https://amzn.to/4dD2gGo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>. </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We're starting our Season 7 read alongs off with a bang! M. O'Keefe's Everything I Left Unsaid duology is some of the best contemporary romance out there, and if you need proof, here it is: The first book ends on a cliffhanger and it holds a prime spot on Jen's keeper shelf. We're talking about all the ways this book works, the way O'Keefe wields tension and description and narrative voice and point of view like an absolute master and delivers a series that is not only deeply representative of the contemporary romance of the mid 2010s, but also a near perfect example of how contemporary can fire on all cylinders. Clear your calendar, you're going to want to read all four books in this series back to back.</p><p>If you want more romance content, maybe you want to join our Patreon, where you get another episode from us each month, and access to the incredible readers and listeners and brilliant people on the Fated Mates discord! Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>.</p><p>Also! We're back on the phonebanking train this election season! Join us Saturdays between now and Election Day to phonebank with fellow romance lovers. Jen &amp; Sarah are joined by special guests who will knock your socks off! Learn more and register at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/fatedstates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/fatedstates</a>. If phonebanking isn't your thing, we're also raising money for downticket house and senate races, because state legislatures may not be sexy, but they sure hold all the power. Learn more, and give what you can at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/givingcircle" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/givingcircle</a>. </p><h2>The Books </h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4h4jiA4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Everything I Left Unsaid</a> by M. O'Keefe</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4h2NOdF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Truth About Him</a> by M. O'Keefe</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3BTCv7i" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Burn Down the Night</a> by M. O'Keefe</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3UajBzD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wait for It</a> by M. O'Keefe</li></ul><br/><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li>Raise a glass to the Old School Romance Book Club on Facebook. They had their final zoom on October 14, 2024.</li><li>Problematic vs. Dated originated with a discussion of Rocky Horror Picture Show on Twitter, <a href="https://www.riseservices.org/the-influence-of-the-rhps-on-the-queer-movement/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a conversation that has been ongoing for a long time</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Just to be clear, when Jen said “it’s 2015 so it’s in past” she’s referencing that although some books were written in present (like 50 Shades, published in 2011), the wholesale shift to present tense that we see in romance now hadn’t happened yet.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.strangulationtraininginstitute.com/all-abusers-are-not-equal-new-ipv-research-reveals-an-indicator-of-deadly-abuse/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Researchers and law enforcement professionals have determined that nonfatal strangulation is a leading indicator of escalating violence in a relationship and an important risk factor for homicide in women</a>, and the fact that <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/25/opinion/teen-sex-choking.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">choking is on the rise in teenage sexual encounters</a> is especially troubling. </li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li>1001 Dark Nights, publishers of Audrey Carlan's <em>A Christmas Auction</em>, available in print, ebook, and audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/48gsFIT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.</li><li>Aethon Books, publishers of Belle Walker's <em>Blood and War</em>, available in print, ebook and audiobook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/3BORyiL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.  </li><li><a href="https://lumigummies.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lumi Gummies</a>--use the code FATED50 for $50 off your first order, or use the code FATEDMATES for 30% off your next order.</li><li>Meghan Quinn, author of <em>How My Neighbor Stole Christmas</em>, available in print, ebook, audiobook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/4eH236r" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li></ul><br/><p>Don't forget to keep listening for an audio excerpt of June Westwood's <em>Grave Temptation</em>, available in print, ebook, audiobook or <a href="https://amzn.to/4dD2gGo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>. </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/10/14/s0706-the-truth-about-him-duology]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">0f91d5ed-4d99-47b1-a155-73f02a03463b</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 15 Oct 2024 22:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/a0b01b47-2919-46ec-95c3-9e6bf1286d66/fated-mates-the-truth-about-him-duology.mp3" length="110975388" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:55:10</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>6</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-a0b01b47-2919-46ec-95c3-9e6bf1286d66.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S07.05: Some Light Kidnapping: Restraints are for Amateurs</title><itunes:title>Some Light Kidnapping: Restraints are for Amateurs</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>An episode for the old school romance readers in the audience, we're talking about kidnapping this week! A trope that either absolutely works for readers (aka us) or absolutely doesn't, we talk about why that is, how the original romances of the 80s and 90s installed these buttons and how we still see the bones of old school kidnapping in delicious romances of today. That, and Jen reminds Sarah of books wrote one time. </p><p>If you want more romance content, maybe you want to join our Patreon, where you get another episode from us each month, and access to the incredible readers and listeners and brilliant people on the Fated Mates discord! Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>.</p><p>Next week, our first read along of Season 7 will be Molly O'Keefe's <a href="https://amzn.to/4dKOeU4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Everything I Left Unsaid</em></a> duology, selected by Jen which despite the first book being a cliffhanger should not surprise you because she contains multitudes. The second book is The Truth About Him. Read them both and get ready for Jen to talk to you for hours. You will thank us.</p><p>Also! We're back on the phonebanking train this election season! Join us Saturdays between now and Election Day to phonebank with fellow romance lovers. Jen &amp; Sarah are joined by special guests who will knock your socks off! Learn more and register at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/fatedstates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/fatedstates</a>. If phonebanking isn't your thing, we're also raising money for downticket house and senate races, because state legislatures may not be sexy, but they sure hold all the power. Learn more, and give what you can at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/givingcircle" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/givingcircle</a>.  </p><h2>The Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47TZGu8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Rogue by Any Other Name</a> by Sarah MacLean</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4dJj6DC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">It Happened One Autumn</a> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3ZUsqB9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Master</a> by Kresley Cole&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3BviaVY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gentle Rogue</a> by Johanna Lindsey</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Bt4OcA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Windflower </a>by Laura London</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4dym3Xj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Kingdom of Dreams</a> by Judith McNaught</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3ZOzMpO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Perfect</a> by Judith McNaught</li><li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7747830-demon-lover" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Demon Lover</a> by Kathleen Creighton</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gXrmT1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Prisoner of My Desire</a> by Johanna Lindsey</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gQcUfz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kiss of a Demon King</a> by Kresley Cole</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XYI3VF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Outlaw and the Lady</a> by Lorraine Heath</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4h8E55J" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Hawk</a> by Monica McCarty</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3zW54An" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Burn for Me</a> by Ilona Andrews</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3zZPAeG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Promise of Fire</a> by Amanda Bouchet</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XNpOSM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Hostage Bargain</a> by Annika Martin</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47WRHN2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mafia Mistress</a> by Mila Finelli&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XVeFPZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twisted Pride</a> by Cora Reilly</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XPkZbM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Taken</a> by Charlotte Stein</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XTSeL8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Savage Hearts</a> by JT Geissenger</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4exQkab" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hell Breaks Loose</a> by Sophie Jordan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XYIrU7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Captive of the Horde King</a> by Zoey Draven</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XNukAU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Grabbed Series</a> by Lolita Lopez</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47Tu5Jh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">My Favorite Kidnapper</a> by Melanie Moreland</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4dAS9BJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chieftain: The Outlander Book Club…in Space!</a> By Annie Lucas</li></ul><br/><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li><a href="https://youtu.be/4R_SNYsdIvw?si=bvAdArv7HNbzkAhe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nobody has ever quoted me back to me before</a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/learning-the-tropes-a-romance-novel-podcast/id1440272585" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learning the Tropes</a> has covered every Kleypas book if you’re in the mood for that.&nbsp;</li><li>Next week, our read along is <a href="https://amzn.to/4eXxRUl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Everything I Left Unsaid</em></a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/3ZUon80" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Truth About Him</em></a> by M. O’Keefe, so get to reading. </li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li>June Westwood, author of <em>Grave Temptation</em>, available in print, ebook, audiobook or <a href="https://amzn.to/4dD2gGo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>. </li><li>KL Parsons, author of <em>Love By a Landslide</em>, available in print and ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/3zNi23B" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li>Jenni Bara, author of <em>The Foul Out</em>, available in print and ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/4eBBPBZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An episode for the old school romance readers in the audience, we're talking about kidnapping this week! A trope that either absolutely works for readers (aka us) or absolutely doesn't, we talk about why that is, how the original romances of the 80s and 90s installed these buttons and how we still see the bones of old school kidnapping in delicious romances of today. That, and Jen reminds Sarah of books wrote one time. </p><p>If you want more romance content, maybe you want to join our Patreon, where you get another episode from us each month, and access to the incredible readers and listeners and brilliant people on the Fated Mates discord! Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>.</p><p>Next week, our first read along of Season 7 will be Molly O'Keefe's <a href="https://amzn.to/4dKOeU4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Everything I Left Unsaid</em></a> duology, selected by Jen which despite the first book being a cliffhanger should not surprise you because she contains multitudes. The second book is The Truth About Him. Read them both and get ready for Jen to talk to you for hours. You will thank us.</p><p>Also! We're back on the phonebanking train this election season! Join us Saturdays between now and Election Day to phonebank with fellow romance lovers. Jen &amp; Sarah are joined by special guests who will knock your socks off! Learn more and register at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/fatedstates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/fatedstates</a>. If phonebanking isn't your thing, we're also raising money for downticket house and senate races, because state legislatures may not be sexy, but they sure hold all the power. Learn more, and give what you can at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/givingcircle" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/givingcircle</a>.  </p><h2>The Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47TZGu8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Rogue by Any Other Name</a> by Sarah MacLean</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4dJj6DC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">It Happened One Autumn</a> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3ZUsqB9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Master</a> by Kresley Cole&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3BviaVY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gentle Rogue</a> by Johanna Lindsey</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Bt4OcA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Windflower </a>by Laura London</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4dym3Xj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Kingdom of Dreams</a> by Judith McNaught</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3ZOzMpO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Perfect</a> by Judith McNaught</li><li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7747830-demon-lover" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Demon Lover</a> by Kathleen Creighton</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gXrmT1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Prisoner of My Desire</a> by Johanna Lindsey</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gQcUfz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kiss of a Demon King</a> by Kresley Cole</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XYI3VF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Outlaw and the Lady</a> by Lorraine Heath</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4h8E55J" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Hawk</a> by Monica McCarty</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3zW54An" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Burn for Me</a> by Ilona Andrews</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3zZPAeG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Promise of Fire</a> by Amanda Bouchet</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XNpOSM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Hostage Bargain</a> by Annika Martin</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47WRHN2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mafia Mistress</a> by Mila Finelli&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XVeFPZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twisted Pride</a> by Cora Reilly</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XPkZbM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Taken</a> by Charlotte Stein</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XTSeL8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Savage Hearts</a> by JT Geissenger</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4exQkab" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hell Breaks Loose</a> by Sophie Jordan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XYIrU7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Captive of the Horde King</a> by Zoey Draven</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XNukAU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Grabbed Series</a> by Lolita Lopez</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47Tu5Jh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">My Favorite Kidnapper</a> by Melanie Moreland</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4dAS9BJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chieftain: The Outlander Book Club…in Space!</a> By Annie Lucas</li></ul><br/><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li><a href="https://youtu.be/4R_SNYsdIvw?si=bvAdArv7HNbzkAhe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nobody has ever quoted me back to me before</a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/learning-the-tropes-a-romance-novel-podcast/id1440272585" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learning the Tropes</a> has covered every Kleypas book if you’re in the mood for that.&nbsp;</li><li>Next week, our read along is <a href="https://amzn.to/4eXxRUl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Everything I Left Unsaid</em></a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/3ZUon80" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Truth About Him</em></a> by M. O’Keefe, so get to reading. </li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li>June Westwood, author of <em>Grave Temptation</em>, available in print, ebook, audiobook or <a href="https://amzn.to/4dD2gGo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>. </li><li>KL Parsons, author of <em>Love By a Landslide</em>, available in print and ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/3zNi23B" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li>Jenni Bara, author of <em>The Foul Out</em>, available in print and ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/4eBBPBZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/10/6/s0705-a-little-light-kidnapping-restraints-are-for-amateurs]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">e09c042c-ccd8-4df9-87fb-d7e47df00f40</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Sun, 06 Oct 2024 20:03:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/4789b5c8-ac61-42f4-8383-055c975b77b3/FATED-MATES-SOME-LIGHT-KIDNAPPING-REVA.mp3" length="106652971" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:50:40</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>5</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-4789b5c8-ac61-42f4-8383-055c975b77b3.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S07.04 Trailblazer Meg Cabot</title><itunes:title>Trailblazer Meg Cabot</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We are so thrilled to have <em>thee</em> Meg Cabot with us, one of the original queens of YA romance. We talk about her longstanding writing career, about the authors who inspired her, about her early historical romances, written as Patricia Cabot, about her pivot into young adult romance and the power of the subgenre, about her own love story, and, of course, about The Princess Diaries of it all. It will surprise absolutely no one that Meg is a delight as a guest--we're so grateful for her time and her insight, and she's welcome back any time. </p><p>If you also love romance, maybe you want to join our Patreon, where you get another episode from us each month, and access to the incredible readers and listeners and brilliant people on the Fated Mates discord! Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>.</p><p>Our first read along of Season 7 will be Molly O'Keefe's <a href="https://amzn.to/4dKOeU4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Everything I Left Unsaid</em></a> duology, selected by Jen which despite the first book being a cliffhanger should not surprise you because she contains multitudes. The second book is The Truth About Him. Read them both and get ready for Jen to talk to you for hours. You will thank us.</p><p>Also! We're back on the phonebanking train this election season! Join us Saturdays between now and Election Day to phonebank with fellow romance lovers. Jen &amp; Sarah are joined by special guests who will knock your socks off! Learn more and register at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/fatedstates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/fatedstates</a>. If phonebanking isn't your thing, we're also raising money for downticket house and senate races, because state legislatures may not be sexy, but they sure hold all the power. Learn more, and give what you can at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/givingcircle" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/givingcircle</a>.  </p><p>Looking for Sarah's Conflict Writing class? It starts this Sunday--<a href="https://www.sarahmaclean.net/mastering-the-art-of-great-conflict-now" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">find it right here</a>. </p><h2>The Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gLhHPr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Where Roses Grow Wild</a></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3ZN8Tm1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">An Improper Proposal</a></li><li>&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/4ewJL7F" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Princess Diaries</a>&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47OZQD3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Black Canary: Ignite</a>&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Y7uLY4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Mediator: Shadowland</a></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4enKGHF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Educating Caroline</a></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3TQhsZw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Boy Next Door</a></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47SDLDW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Enchanted to Meet You&nbsp;</a></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ePntxP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">All-American Girl</a></li></ul><br/><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li><a href="https://megcabot.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Meg Cabot</a>. has written over 50 young adult romances, including The Princess Diaries. Meg also wrote adult romances under the name Patricia Cabot, and her first book Educating Caroline has just been re-released under the name Meg Cabot.&nbsp;</li><li>Jen recommends the book <a href="https://amzn.to/3N78d3l" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Paperback Crush: The Totally Radical History of 80s and 90s Teen Fiction</a> by Gabrielle Moss.&nbsp;</li><li><strong>Publishing Professionals and Authors Mentioned: </strong>author <a href="https://theloosecravat.substack.com/p/shame" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barbara Cartland</a>, Jennifer Weis was an agent at St. Martin’s Press and is now at <a href="https://www.theweisagency.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Weis Agency</a>, editor <a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/news-and-features/articles/amy-pierpont-forever-and-forever-yours/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amy Pierpont</a>, editor <a href="https://simonandschusterpublishing.com/gallery-books/carrie-feron.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Carrie Fero</a>n, agent Laura Langlie, <a href="https://www.greenhouseliterary.com/the-team/sarah-davies/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah Davies</a> with MacMillan in the UK, author <a href="https://judyblume.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Judy Blume</a>, author <a href="https://michellejaffe.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Michelle Jaffe</a>, author <a href="https://www.susanisaacs.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Susan Isaacs</a>, author <a href="https://susanelizabethphillips.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Susan Elizabeth Phillips</a>, author <a href="https://www.bolubabalola.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bolu Babalola</a>, author <a href="https://www.jackreacher.com/us/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lee Child</a>, publisher <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/erica-sussman-64951967" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Erica Sussman</a>, author <a href="https://pdjames.co.uk/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">PD James</a>.</li><li><strong>Books &amp; Movies mentioned: </strong><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Eyre" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jane Eyre</a> by Charlotte Bronte, <a href="https://variety.com/2019/film/features/romancing-the-stone-35-anniversary-michael-douglas-1203175725/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Romancing the Stone</a>, <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/173718.Daughter_of_Hassan?scrlybrkr=958e9960" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Daughter of Hassan</a> by Penny Jordan, <a href="https://nebulas.sfwa.org/grand-masters/anne-mccaffrey/?scrlybrkr=958e9960" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Anne McCafferey</a>’s Dragonriders of Pern series, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridget_Jones%27s_Diary_(novel)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bridget Jones’s Diary</a> by Helen Fielding, <a href="https://amzn.to/4dt3Uu2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blubber</a> by Judy Blume, <a href="https://amzn.to/3BE7vrK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Cat Ate my Gymsuit</a> by Paula Danziger, <a href="https://eportfolios.macaulay.cuny.edu/messenger/2019/04/09/norma-klein-and-the-antidote-to-womanhood/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Norma Klein</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/3N8wfuT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Up the Down Staircase</a> by Bel Kaufman, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/1/7/s0218-born-in-ice" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Born in Ice</a> by Nora Roberts, <a href="https://amzn.to/3ZO65W2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">In Bed with the Devil</a> by Lorraine Heath.&nbsp;</li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Book of the Month</strong>, bringing the best new fiction to your door. Go to <a href="https://bookofthemonth.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bookofthemonth.com</a> to pick a book and join. For a limited time, you can get your first book for just $5 with code PUMPKIN. Remember to tell them Fated Mates sent you!</li><li><strong>TL Smith</strong>, author of <em>When He Reads to Me</em>, available in print and ebook, from <a href="https://amzn.to/3zIfbZw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/when-he-reads-to-me-tl-smith/1145969562?ean=9780645534092" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/when-he-reads-to-me" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/when-he-reads-to-me/id6520388475" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/when-he-reads-to-me-t-l-smith/21780251?ean=9780645534092" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Claire Therese</strong>, author of <em>The Starling Inn</em>, available in print and ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/3zDiq4B" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Isabella Kamal</strong>, author of <em>The Temple of Persephone</em>, available in print and ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/3Y6d5vR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-temple-of-persephone-isabella-kamal/1143831323?ean=9798212538503" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-temple-of-persephone-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-temple-of-persephone/id6461977508" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-temple-of-persephone-isabella-kamal/20285303?ean=9798212538503" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are so thrilled to have <em>thee</em> Meg Cabot with us, one of the original queens of YA romance. We talk about her longstanding writing career, about the authors who inspired her, about her early historical romances, written as Patricia Cabot, about her pivot into young adult romance and the power of the subgenre, about her own love story, and, of course, about The Princess Diaries of it all. It will surprise absolutely no one that Meg is a delight as a guest--we're so grateful for her time and her insight, and she's welcome back any time. </p><p>If you also love romance, maybe you want to join our Patreon, where you get another episode from us each month, and access to the incredible readers and listeners and brilliant people on the Fated Mates discord! Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>.</p><p>Our first read along of Season 7 will be Molly O'Keefe's <a href="https://amzn.to/4dKOeU4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Everything I Left Unsaid</em></a> duology, selected by Jen which despite the first book being a cliffhanger should not surprise you because she contains multitudes. The second book is The Truth About Him. Read them both and get ready for Jen to talk to you for hours. You will thank us.</p><p>Also! We're back on the phonebanking train this election season! Join us Saturdays between now and Election Day to phonebank with fellow romance lovers. Jen &amp; Sarah are joined by special guests who will knock your socks off! Learn more and register at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/fatedstates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/fatedstates</a>. If phonebanking isn't your thing, we're also raising money for downticket house and senate races, because state legislatures may not be sexy, but they sure hold all the power. Learn more, and give what you can at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/givingcircle" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/givingcircle</a>.  </p><p>Looking for Sarah's Conflict Writing class? It starts this Sunday--<a href="https://www.sarahmaclean.net/mastering-the-art-of-great-conflict-now" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">find it right here</a>. </p><h2>The Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gLhHPr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Where Roses Grow Wild</a></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3ZN8Tm1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">An Improper Proposal</a></li><li>&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/4ewJL7F" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Princess Diaries</a>&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47OZQD3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Black Canary: Ignite</a>&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Y7uLY4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Mediator: Shadowland</a></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4enKGHF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Educating Caroline</a></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3TQhsZw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Boy Next Door</a></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47SDLDW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Enchanted to Meet You&nbsp;</a></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ePntxP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">All-American Girl</a></li></ul><br/><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li><a href="https://megcabot.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Meg Cabot</a>. has written over 50 young adult romances, including The Princess Diaries. Meg also wrote adult romances under the name Patricia Cabot, and her first book Educating Caroline has just been re-released under the name Meg Cabot.&nbsp;</li><li>Jen recommends the book <a href="https://amzn.to/3N78d3l" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Paperback Crush: The Totally Radical History of 80s and 90s Teen Fiction</a> by Gabrielle Moss.&nbsp;</li><li><strong>Publishing Professionals and Authors Mentioned: </strong>author <a href="https://theloosecravat.substack.com/p/shame" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barbara Cartland</a>, Jennifer Weis was an agent at St. Martin’s Press and is now at <a href="https://www.theweisagency.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Weis Agency</a>, editor <a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/news-and-features/articles/amy-pierpont-forever-and-forever-yours/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amy Pierpont</a>, editor <a href="https://simonandschusterpublishing.com/gallery-books/carrie-feron.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Carrie Fero</a>n, agent Laura Langlie, <a href="https://www.greenhouseliterary.com/the-team/sarah-davies/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah Davies</a> with MacMillan in the UK, author <a href="https://judyblume.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Judy Blume</a>, author <a href="https://michellejaffe.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Michelle Jaffe</a>, author <a href="https://www.susanisaacs.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Susan Isaacs</a>, author <a href="https://susanelizabethphillips.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Susan Elizabeth Phillips</a>, author <a href="https://www.bolubabalola.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bolu Babalola</a>, author <a href="https://www.jackreacher.com/us/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lee Child</a>, publisher <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/erica-sussman-64951967" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Erica Sussman</a>, author <a href="https://pdjames.co.uk/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">PD James</a>.</li><li><strong>Books &amp; Movies mentioned: </strong><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Eyre" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jane Eyre</a> by Charlotte Bronte, <a href="https://variety.com/2019/film/features/romancing-the-stone-35-anniversary-michael-douglas-1203175725/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Romancing the Stone</a>, <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/173718.Daughter_of_Hassan?scrlybrkr=958e9960" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Daughter of Hassan</a> by Penny Jordan, <a href="https://nebulas.sfwa.org/grand-masters/anne-mccaffrey/?scrlybrkr=958e9960" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Anne McCafferey</a>’s Dragonriders of Pern series, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridget_Jones%27s_Diary_(novel)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bridget Jones’s Diary</a> by Helen Fielding, <a href="https://amzn.to/4dt3Uu2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blubber</a> by Judy Blume, <a href="https://amzn.to/3BE7vrK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Cat Ate my Gymsuit</a> by Paula Danziger, <a href="https://eportfolios.macaulay.cuny.edu/messenger/2019/04/09/norma-klein-and-the-antidote-to-womanhood/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Norma Klein</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/3N8wfuT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Up the Down Staircase</a> by Bel Kaufman, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/1/7/s0218-born-in-ice" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Born in Ice</a> by Nora Roberts, <a href="https://amzn.to/3ZO65W2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">In Bed with the Devil</a> by Lorraine Heath.&nbsp;</li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Book of the Month</strong>, bringing the best new fiction to your door. Go to <a href="https://bookofthemonth.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bookofthemonth.com</a> to pick a book and join. For a limited time, you can get your first book for just $5 with code PUMPKIN. Remember to tell them Fated Mates sent you!</li><li><strong>TL Smith</strong>, author of <em>When He Reads to Me</em>, available in print and ebook, from <a href="https://amzn.to/3zIfbZw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/when-he-reads-to-me-tl-smith/1145969562?ean=9780645534092" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/when-he-reads-to-me" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/when-he-reads-to-me/id6520388475" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/when-he-reads-to-me-t-l-smith/21780251?ean=9780645534092" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Claire Therese</strong>, author of <em>The Starling Inn</em>, available in print and ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/3zDiq4B" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Isabella Kamal</strong>, author of <em>The Temple of Persephone</em>, available in print and ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/3Y6d5vR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-temple-of-persephone-isabella-kamal/1143831323?ean=9798212538503" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-temple-of-persephone-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-temple-of-persephone/id6461977508" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-temple-of-persephone-isabella-kamal/20285303?ean=9798212538503" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/10/1/s0704-trailblazer-meg-cabot]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">d32671e2-94cb-4210-97cd-dbf07930964e</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/19efb7e1-516d-473f-ae8b-aa8975974676/KcQCoOIugYjN2QOrL7FTHPOB.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 01 Oct 2024 16:43:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/0d0adfb6-39b4-49a8-9078-e284367c4e63/fated-mates-meg-cabot.mp3" length="107485419" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:51:32</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>4</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-0d0adfb6-39b4-49a8-9078-e284367c4e63.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S07.03 Wife Guys in Romance: Just Look at Her!</title><itunes:title>Wife Guys in Romance: Just Look at Her!</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>There's a particular kind of romance hero who makes us feel all kinds of warm and fuzzy, because all he wants to do is stare in awe at his partner and tell everyone in the world to do the same. The Wife Guy is everything we love when it's done right, and we're so very excited to share a list of books that deliver this straight shot of serotonin every single time.</p><p>If you also love romance, maybe you want to join our Patreon, where you get another episode from us each month, and access to the incredible readers and listeners and brilliant people on the Fated Mates discord! Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>.</p><p>Our first read along of Season 7 will be Molly O'Keefe's <a href="https://amzn.to/4dKOeU4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Everything I Left Unsaid</em></a> duology, selected by Jen which despite the first book being a cliffhanger should not surprise you because she contains multitudes. The second book is The Truth About Him. Read them both and get ready for Jen to talk to you for hours. You will thank us.</p><p>Also! We're back on the phonebanking train this election season! Join us Saturdays between now and Election Day to phonebank with fellow romance lovers. Jen &amp; Sarah are joined by special guests who will knock your socks off! Learn more and register at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/fatedstates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/fatedstates</a>. If phonebanking isn't your thing, we're also raising money for downticket house and senate races, because state legislatures may not be sexy, but they sure hold all the power. Learn more, and give what you can at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/givingcircle" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/givingcircle</a>. </p><h1><strong>The Books </strong></h1><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gzNZN5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Bride</a> by Julie Garwood</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47J5gQc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Kingdom of Dreams</a> by Judith McNaught</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3MUtz3X" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kiss an Angel</a> by Susan Elizabeth Phillips</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4eQFkVd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Secret</a> by Julie Garwood</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gCij9W" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Knockout</a> by Sarah MacLean</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3TEOOuq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Worked Up</a> by Tessa Bailey</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4df55gz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bombshell</a> by Sarah MacLean</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3TEOPyu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Naked In Death</a> by JD Robb</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gBa4uY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">American Royalty</a> by Tracey Livesay</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3zujK9O" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Favor</a> by Suzanne Wright</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3TFS7kZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wild Pitch</a> by Cat Giraldo</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3BfWH39" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The House on Mulberry Street</a> by Jeannie Chin</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gsaHqu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Suddenly You</a> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3ZxIrg2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Hating Game</a> by Sally Thorne</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47y6iyh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sweet Ruin</a> by Kresley Cole</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47A6RaO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dark Needs at Night’s Edge</a> by Kresley Cole</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3ZAEdEy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Demon from the Dark</a> by Kresley Cole</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XQ3IR1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MacRieve</a> by Kresley Cole</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XPYapw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wicked Abyss</a> by Kresley Cole</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XUdAcg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dragon Bound</a> by Thea Harrison</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XQMbbs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">An Island Princess Starts a Scandal</a> by Adriana Herrera</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3TGOdZg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Up in Smoke</a> by Tessa Bailey</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47EzMuA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Prince of Broadway</a> by Joanna Shupe</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47AtCLK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">To Catch a Raven</a> by Beverly Jenkins</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Ztj5jA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lush Money</a> by Angelina M. Lopez</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3TCMpAm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Engaging the Enemy</a> by Reese Ryan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4eixXWI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Get a Life, Chloe Brown</a> by Talia Hibbert</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3zk9BN0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ice Planet Barbarians</a> by Ruby Dixon</li></ul><br/><h1><strong>The Notes</strong></h1><ul><li>We are not the only ones just discovering <a href="https://www.mirror.co.uk/lifestyle/dating/people-just-learning-what-dating-33681410" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">what <strong>6-6-6 </strong>means</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>There is evidence that <a href="https://www.propublica.org/article/georgia-abortion-ban-amber-thurman-death" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">women in Georgia have died</a> as a result of abortion bans, and it’s <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/health/womens-health/texas-abortion-ban-deaths-pregnant-women-sb8-analysis-rcna171631" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">true in other states as well</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Some of our favorite wife guys: <a href="https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/08/democrats-wife-guys-dnc.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Doug Emhoff, Joe Biden, Barack Obama</a>, <a href="https://x.com/Acyn/status/1835057043419676922" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tim Walz</a>, and <a href="https://people.com/all-about-tara-davis-hunter-woodhall-relationship-8690844" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hunter Woodhall</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>The <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/1/2/s0418-jayne-ann-krentz-a-trailblazer-episode" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jayne Ann Krentz trailblazer</a> episode has a great discussion of core story.&nbsp;</li><li>Jen thinks the Julie Garwood book with the wolf is actually Honor’s Splendor, which we do not recommend due to very problematic portrayal of a gay character. </li></ul><br/><h1>The Sponsors</h1><ul><li><strong>Sarah Chamberlain</strong>, author of <em>The Slowest Burn</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/4eBp8qx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-slowest-burn-sarah-chamberlain/1144473392?ean=9781250894724" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-slowest-burn-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-slowest-burn/id6478869543" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-slowest-burn-sarah-chamberlain/20964498?ean=9781250894724" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Avery Maxwell</strong>, author of <em>Late Nights &amp; Love Lines</em>, available in print and ebook, from <a href="https://amzn.to/4eDeZd8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.</li><li><strong>Erin Langston</strong>, author of <em>The Finest Print</em>, available in print and ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/4dpkuuB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-finest-print-erin-langston/1146305236?ean=9798988316534" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-finest-print" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-finest-print/id6692635450" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-finest-print-erin-langston/21820133?ean=9798988316534" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There's a particular kind of romance hero who makes us feel all kinds of warm and fuzzy, because all he wants to do is stare in awe at his partner and tell everyone in the world to do the same. The Wife Guy is everything we love when it's done right, and we're so very excited to share a list of books that deliver this straight shot of serotonin every single time.</p><p>If you also love romance, maybe you want to join our Patreon, where you get another episode from us each month, and access to the incredible readers and listeners and brilliant people on the Fated Mates discord! Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>.</p><p>Our first read along of Season 7 will be Molly O'Keefe's <a href="https://amzn.to/4dKOeU4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Everything I Left Unsaid</em></a> duology, selected by Jen which despite the first book being a cliffhanger should not surprise you because she contains multitudes. The second book is The Truth About Him. Read them both and get ready for Jen to talk to you for hours. You will thank us.</p><p>Also! We're back on the phonebanking train this election season! Join us Saturdays between now and Election Day to phonebank with fellow romance lovers. Jen &amp; Sarah are joined by special guests who will knock your socks off! Learn more and register at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/fatedstates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/fatedstates</a>. If phonebanking isn't your thing, we're also raising money for downticket house and senate races, because state legislatures may not be sexy, but they sure hold all the power. Learn more, and give what you can at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/givingcircle" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/givingcircle</a>. </p><h1><strong>The Books </strong></h1><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gzNZN5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Bride</a> by Julie Garwood</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47J5gQc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Kingdom of Dreams</a> by Judith McNaught</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3MUtz3X" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kiss an Angel</a> by Susan Elizabeth Phillips</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4eQFkVd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Secret</a> by Julie Garwood</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gCij9W" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Knockout</a> by Sarah MacLean</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3TEOOuq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Worked Up</a> by Tessa Bailey</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4df55gz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bombshell</a> by Sarah MacLean</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3TEOPyu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Naked In Death</a> by JD Robb</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gBa4uY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">American Royalty</a> by Tracey Livesay</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3zujK9O" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Favor</a> by Suzanne Wright</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3TFS7kZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wild Pitch</a> by Cat Giraldo</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3BfWH39" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The House on Mulberry Street</a> by Jeannie Chin</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gsaHqu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Suddenly You</a> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3ZxIrg2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Hating Game</a> by Sally Thorne</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47y6iyh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sweet Ruin</a> by Kresley Cole</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47A6RaO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dark Needs at Night’s Edge</a> by Kresley Cole</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3ZAEdEy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Demon from the Dark</a> by Kresley Cole</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XQ3IR1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MacRieve</a> by Kresley Cole</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XPYapw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wicked Abyss</a> by Kresley Cole</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XUdAcg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dragon Bound</a> by Thea Harrison</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XQMbbs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">An Island Princess Starts a Scandal</a> by Adriana Herrera</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3TGOdZg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Up in Smoke</a> by Tessa Bailey</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47EzMuA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Prince of Broadway</a> by Joanna Shupe</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47AtCLK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">To Catch a Raven</a> by Beverly Jenkins</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Ztj5jA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lush Money</a> by Angelina M. Lopez</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3TCMpAm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Engaging the Enemy</a> by Reese Ryan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4eixXWI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Get a Life, Chloe Brown</a> by Talia Hibbert</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3zk9BN0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ice Planet Barbarians</a> by Ruby Dixon</li></ul><br/><h1><strong>The Notes</strong></h1><ul><li>We are not the only ones just discovering <a href="https://www.mirror.co.uk/lifestyle/dating/people-just-learning-what-dating-33681410" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">what <strong>6-6-6 </strong>means</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>There is evidence that <a href="https://www.propublica.org/article/georgia-abortion-ban-amber-thurman-death" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">women in Georgia have died</a> as a result of abortion bans, and it’s <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/health/womens-health/texas-abortion-ban-deaths-pregnant-women-sb8-analysis-rcna171631" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">true in other states as well</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Some of our favorite wife guys: <a href="https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/08/democrats-wife-guys-dnc.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Doug Emhoff, Joe Biden, Barack Obama</a>, <a href="https://x.com/Acyn/status/1835057043419676922" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tim Walz</a>, and <a href="https://people.com/all-about-tara-davis-hunter-woodhall-relationship-8690844" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hunter Woodhall</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>The <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/1/2/s0418-jayne-ann-krentz-a-trailblazer-episode" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jayne Ann Krentz trailblazer</a> episode has a great discussion of core story.&nbsp;</li><li>Jen thinks the Julie Garwood book with the wolf is actually Honor’s Splendor, which we do not recommend due to very problematic portrayal of a gay character. </li></ul><br/><h1>The Sponsors</h1><ul><li><strong>Sarah Chamberlain</strong>, author of <em>The Slowest Burn</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/4eBp8qx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-slowest-burn-sarah-chamberlain/1144473392?ean=9781250894724" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-slowest-burn-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-slowest-burn/id6478869543" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-slowest-burn-sarah-chamberlain/20964498?ean=9781250894724" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li><li><strong>Avery Maxwell</strong>, author of <em>Late Nights &amp; Love Lines</em>, available in print and ebook, from <a href="https://amzn.to/4eDeZd8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.</li><li><strong>Erin Langston</strong>, author of <em>The Finest Print</em>, available in print and ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/4dpkuuB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-finest-print-erin-langston/1146305236?ean=9798988316534" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-finest-print" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-finest-print/id6692635450" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-finest-print-erin-langston/21820133?ean=9798988316534" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/9/22/s0703-wife-guys-in-romance-just-look-at-her]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">95ca5ca6-3cfc-46cd-a755-9b5c719e9a79</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/53dcfb7f-b47a-4da5-a733-0e80d5d1dc2a/IYB9M5i2INigw8MV2hqcerZJ.jpg"/><pubDate>Sun, 22 Sep 2024 21:58:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/5478b5ec-6de8-43e3-a56f-6cc8effda9c3/fated-mates-wife-guys.mp3" length="100152892" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:43:48</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>3</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-5478b5ec-6de8-43e3-a56f-6cc8effda9c3.json" type="application/json+chapters"/><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="video/youtube" title="S07.03 Wife Guys in Romance: Just Look at Her!"><podcast:source uri="https://youtu.be/iDIbmf56irw"/></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>S07.02 Fall 2024 New Releases</title><itunes:title>Fall 2024 New Releases</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Everything is new and crisp in the fall, as F. Scott Fitzgerald likes to say, and the romance novels are no different! We're starting to think about cozy fall reads under warm blankets with cider and pumpkin spice...and we're talking today about our massive autumn TBR piles! There’s something here for everyone — chefs, witches, sexy anthologies, vampires, sports, dragons, hot air balloons and, of course, dukes. </p><p>If you also love romance, maybe you want to join our Patreon, where you get another episode from us each month, and access to the incredible readers and listeners and brilliant people on the Fated Mates discord! Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>.</p><p>Our first read along of Season 7 will be Molly O'Keefe's <a href="https://amzn.to/4dKOeU4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Everything I Left Unsaid</em></a> duology, selected by Jen which despite the first book being a cliffhanger should not surprise you because she contains multitudes. The second book is The Truth About Him. Read them both and get ready for Jen to talk to you for hours. You will thank us.</p><p>Also! We're back on the phonebanking train this election season! Join us on Saturdays between now and Election Day to phonebank with fellow romance lovers, Jen, Sarah, and special guests who will knock your socks off! Learn more and register at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/fatedstates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/fatedstates</a>. If phonebanking isn't your thing, we're also raising money for downticket house and senate races, because state legislatures may not be sexy, but they sure hold all the power. Learn more, and give what you can at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/givingcircle" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/givingcircle</a>. </p><h2><strong>The Books</strong></h2><p><strong>Contemporary&nbsp;</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3ZoOQKq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">I’ll Have What He’s Having</a> by Abib Khorram</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XIzZJw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Marriage and Masti</a> by Nisha Sharma</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XHFpVo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Legend in the Baking</a> by Jamie Wesley</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XsHgMl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Deja Brew</a> by Celestine Martin</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47qfX9W" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Best Hex Ever</a> by Nadia El-Fassi&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3ZvOP7P" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love in Bloom</a> by Lucy Eden</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4e3zdfU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adam and Evie’s Matchmaking Tour</a> by Nora Nguyen</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3TvD3GJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Give It To Me</a> by Angelina Lopez&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3MKr587" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Big Fan</a> by Alexandra Romanoff / 831 Stories</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XKxxCo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Prime Time Romance</a> by Kate Robb</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XIAbse" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wished</a> by Sarah Ready</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3B6wNyC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fang Fiction</a> by Kate Stayman-London</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47rbVhM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">All Signs Point to Malibu</a> by Jennifer Snow</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XlLSDY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love and Sportsball</a> by Meka James</li><li><strong>YA Romance</strong></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47rcqbE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Payal Mehta’s Romance Revenge Plot</a> by Preeti Chhibber</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3B639tm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Dividing Sky</a> by Jill Tew&nbsp;</li></ul><br/><p><strong>Romantasy</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3MKrreX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Fire in the Sky</a> by Sophie Jordan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3zgnyLP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twisted Shadows</a> by Allie Therin</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XpyY88" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The House at Watch Hill</a> by Karen Marie Moning</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3B2YQPw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blood and Magic</a> by Lauren Dane</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47rcyYG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Swordcrossed</a> by Freya Marske</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XIwOS9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Servant of Earth</a> by Sarah Hawley</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3MJKmGG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">This Will Be Fun</a> by E.B. Asher</li><li><strong>HISTORICAL</strong></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47wT4BN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">My Rogue to Ruin</a> by Erica Ridley</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47tMa0f" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Three Sins and a Scoundrel</a> by Tracey Sumner</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XsTogd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Educating Caroline</a> by Meg Cabot</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gERUbR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Duke’s Sister and I</a> by Emma-Claire Sunday</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3z7PJg0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Beast Takes a Bride</a> by Julie Anne Long</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47uD9DX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Highlander’s Return</a> by Lynsay Sands</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4e27wV3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Tempest of Desire</a> by Lorraine Heath</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3ZrdqdN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Wallflower List</a> by Jess Michaels</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4dd8dcK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Trouble with Inventing a Viscount</a> by Vivienne Lorrette</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3BgfRFR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">No Ordinary Duchess</a> by Elizabeth Hoyt</li></ul><br/><p><strong>Romantic Suspense</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3ZpOF1J" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">I Did Something Bad</a> by Pyae Moe Thet War</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4dUMh7r" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">You Can Kill</a> by Rebecca Zanetti</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47uM2NO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mr. Nice Spy</a> by Tiana Smith</li></ul><br/><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li>You can join us for <a href="https://fatedmates.net/fatedstates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated States phone banking</a> this Saturday, Sept 21, 2024, and then starting Oct 5th, we’ll be phone banking every Saturday until Election Day. </li><li>A great clearinghouse for all your voter information needs (yes, you should check your voter registration one more time) is <a href="https://www.rockthevote.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rock the Vote</a> or <a href="https://www.vote.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vote.org </a> </li><li>Find out more information about The States Project and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/givingcircle" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">join the Fated Mates Giving Circle</a>. </li><li>After watching <a href="https://www.instagram.com/reel/C_1bH9QIptN/?igsh=NmVqenhuaDhuZTZ6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this great video from John Legend</a>, who was born in Springfield, you can also support Springfield, Ohio and its Haitian immigrant population by supporting any of the following organizations: <a href="https://www.haitiansupportcenterspringfield.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Haitian Community Help &amp; Support Center</a> of Springfield, The <a href="https://www.theshfb.org/donate" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Second Harvest Food Bank</a>, <a href="https://www.rockinghorsecenter.org/donate/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Rocking Horse Community Health Center</a>, and the Springfield chapter of <a href="https://www.svdpspfld.org/services/donate-2/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">St. Vincent De Paul</a>. </li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Aethon Books</strong>, publishers of KW Foster's <em>A Curse of Breath and Blood</em>, available in <a href="https://amzn.to/3MTxePi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">print or ebook</a>.</li><li><strong>Blue Box Press</strong>, publishers of J Kenner's <em>Craved By You</em>, available in print, ebook, and audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/3zoA5Ne" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.</li><li><strong>Meghan Quinn</strong>, author of <em>Bridesmaid Undercover</em>, available in print or ebook or <a href="https://amzn.to/3MPzOG5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Lumi Labs</strong>, creators of Lumi Gummies. Go to <a href="https://lumigummies.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lumigummies.com</a> and use code FATED50 for free gummies with a limited time $50 off coupon, or use code FATEDMATES for 30% off.</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everything is new and crisp in the fall, as F. Scott Fitzgerald likes to say, and the romance novels are no different! We're starting to think about cozy fall reads under warm blankets with cider and pumpkin spice...and we're talking today about our massive autumn TBR piles! There’s something here for everyone — chefs, witches, sexy anthologies, vampires, sports, dragons, hot air balloons and, of course, dukes. </p><p>If you also love romance, maybe you want to join our Patreon, where you get another episode from us each month, and access to the incredible readers and listeners and brilliant people on the Fated Mates discord! Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>.</p><p>Our first read along of Season 7 will be Molly O'Keefe's <a href="https://amzn.to/4dKOeU4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Everything I Left Unsaid</em></a> duology, selected by Jen which despite the first book being a cliffhanger should not surprise you because she contains multitudes. The second book is The Truth About Him. Read them both and get ready for Jen to talk to you for hours. You will thank us.</p><p>Also! We're back on the phonebanking train this election season! Join us on Saturdays between now and Election Day to phonebank with fellow romance lovers, Jen, Sarah, and special guests who will knock your socks off! Learn more and register at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/fatedstates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/fatedstates</a>. If phonebanking isn't your thing, we're also raising money for downticket house and senate races, because state legislatures may not be sexy, but they sure hold all the power. Learn more, and give what you can at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/givingcircle" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/givingcircle</a>. </p><h2><strong>The Books</strong></h2><p><strong>Contemporary&nbsp;</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3ZoOQKq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">I’ll Have What He’s Having</a> by Abib Khorram</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XIzZJw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Marriage and Masti</a> by Nisha Sharma</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XHFpVo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Legend in the Baking</a> by Jamie Wesley</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XsHgMl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Deja Brew</a> by Celestine Martin</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47qfX9W" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Best Hex Ever</a> by Nadia El-Fassi&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3ZvOP7P" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love in Bloom</a> by Lucy Eden</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4e3zdfU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adam and Evie’s Matchmaking Tour</a> by Nora Nguyen</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3TvD3GJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Give It To Me</a> by Angelina Lopez&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3MKr587" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Big Fan</a> by Alexandra Romanoff / 831 Stories</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XKxxCo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Prime Time Romance</a> by Kate Robb</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XIAbse" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wished</a> by Sarah Ready</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3B6wNyC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fang Fiction</a> by Kate Stayman-London</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47rbVhM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">All Signs Point to Malibu</a> by Jennifer Snow</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XlLSDY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love and Sportsball</a> by Meka James</li><li><strong>YA Romance</strong></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47rcqbE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Payal Mehta’s Romance Revenge Plot</a> by Preeti Chhibber</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3B639tm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Dividing Sky</a> by Jill Tew&nbsp;</li></ul><br/><p><strong>Romantasy</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3MKrreX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Fire in the Sky</a> by Sophie Jordan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3zgnyLP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twisted Shadows</a> by Allie Therin</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XpyY88" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The House at Watch Hill</a> by Karen Marie Moning</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3B2YQPw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blood and Magic</a> by Lauren Dane</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47rcyYG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Swordcrossed</a> by Freya Marske</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XIwOS9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Servant of Earth</a> by Sarah Hawley</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3MJKmGG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">This Will Be Fun</a> by E.B. Asher</li><li><strong>HISTORICAL</strong></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47wT4BN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">My Rogue to Ruin</a> by Erica Ridley</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47tMa0f" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Three Sins and a Scoundrel</a> by Tracey Sumner</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XsTogd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Educating Caroline</a> by Meg Cabot</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gERUbR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Duke’s Sister and I</a> by Emma-Claire Sunday</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3z7PJg0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Beast Takes a Bride</a> by Julie Anne Long</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47uD9DX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Highlander’s Return</a> by Lynsay Sands</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4e27wV3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Tempest of Desire</a> by Lorraine Heath</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3ZrdqdN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Wallflower List</a> by Jess Michaels</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4dd8dcK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Trouble with Inventing a Viscount</a> by Vivienne Lorrette</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3BgfRFR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">No Ordinary Duchess</a> by Elizabeth Hoyt</li></ul><br/><p><strong>Romantic Suspense</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3ZpOF1J" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">I Did Something Bad</a> by Pyae Moe Thet War</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4dUMh7r" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">You Can Kill</a> by Rebecca Zanetti</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47uM2NO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mr. Nice Spy</a> by Tiana Smith</li></ul><br/><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li>You can join us for <a href="https://fatedmates.net/fatedstates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated States phone banking</a> this Saturday, Sept 21, 2024, and then starting Oct 5th, we’ll be phone banking every Saturday until Election Day. </li><li>A great clearinghouse for all your voter information needs (yes, you should check your voter registration one more time) is <a href="https://www.rockthevote.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rock the Vote</a> or <a href="https://www.vote.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vote.org </a> </li><li>Find out more information about The States Project and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/givingcircle" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">join the Fated Mates Giving Circle</a>. </li><li>After watching <a href="https://www.instagram.com/reel/C_1bH9QIptN/?igsh=NmVqenhuaDhuZTZ6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this great video from John Legend</a>, who was born in Springfield, you can also support Springfield, Ohio and its Haitian immigrant population by supporting any of the following organizations: <a href="https://www.haitiansupportcenterspringfield.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Haitian Community Help &amp; Support Center</a> of Springfield, The <a href="https://www.theshfb.org/donate" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Second Harvest Food Bank</a>, <a href="https://www.rockinghorsecenter.org/donate/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Rocking Horse Community Health Center</a>, and the Springfield chapter of <a href="https://www.svdpspfld.org/services/donate-2/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">St. Vincent De Paul</a>. </li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Aethon Books</strong>, publishers of KW Foster's <em>A Curse of Breath and Blood</em>, available in <a href="https://amzn.to/3MTxePi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">print or ebook</a>.</li><li><strong>Blue Box Press</strong>, publishers of J Kenner's <em>Craved By You</em>, available in print, ebook, and audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/3zoA5Ne" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.</li><li><strong>Meghan Quinn</strong>, author of <em>Bridesmaid Undercover</em>, available in print or ebook or <a href="https://amzn.to/3MPzOG5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><strong>Lumi Labs</strong>, creators of Lumi Gummies. Go to <a href="https://lumigummies.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lumigummies.com</a> and use code FATED50 for free gummies with a limited time $50 off coupon, or use code FATEDMATES for 30% off.</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/9/15/s0702-fall-2024-new-releases]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">ad1ffa7c-1850-48f4-948c-7c420bc062b2</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 17 Sep 2024 23:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/653e2285-7a97-496b-94d2-9019a0487939/fated-mates-fall-2024-reads.mp3" length="117536165" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>02:01:54</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>2</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-653e2285-7a97-496b-94d2-9019a0487939.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S07.01 The Magnificent (Season) Seven with Kate Clayborn and Adriana Herrera</title><itunes:title>The Magnificent (Season) Seven with Kate Clayborn and Adriana Herrera</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Seven is heaven! Today, we are celebrating seven seasons of Fated Mates and this genre that we just can't get enough of with two people we just can't get enough of--Kate Clayborn and Adriana Herrera! We're talking about books, about the tropes we love, about the little bits of romance that make it the very very best. We're also thanking you for listening for seven seasons--and also being the very very best.</p><p>If you also love romance, maybe you want to join our Patreon, where you get another episode from us each month, and access to the incredible readers and listeners and brilliant people on the Fated Mates discord! Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>.</p><p>Our first read along of Season 7 will be Molly O'Keefe's <a href="https://amzn.to/4dKOeU4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Everything I Left Unsaid</em></a> duology, selected by Jen which despite the first book being a cliffhanger should not surprise you because she contains multitudes. The second book is The Truth About Him. Read them both and get ready for Jen to talk to you for hours. You will thank us.</p><p>Also! We're back on the phonebanking train this election season! Join us on Saturdays between now and Election Day to phonebank with fellow romance lovers, Jen, Sarah, and special guests who will knock your socks off! Learn more and register at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/fatedstates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/fatedstates</a>.</p><h2>The Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Zgl5M1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Other Side of Disappearing</a> by Kate Clayborn</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XHaHMc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Luck of the Draw</a> by Kate Clayborn</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3B0mhcl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">On the Hustle</a> by Adriana Herrera</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4d5CdqS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">An Island Princess Starts a Scandal</a> by Adriana Herrera</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3ATeNYo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Clan of the Cave Bear</a> by Jean Auel</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3AZFGtS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hollywood Wives</a> by Jackie collins&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4dSgynk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Thorn Birds</a> by <strong>Colleen McCullough</strong></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4dUn0Kw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bet Me</a> by Jennifer Crusie</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3MGjuYc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Gift</a> by Julie Garwood</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3MFsSvf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Run Posy Run</a> by Cate Wells</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3MBYxhc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Devil in Winter</a> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XHaMQ0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Flowers From the Storm</a> by Laura Kinsale</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3AZYLfq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Magic Rises</a> by Ilona Andrews</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3AZY45N" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lover Eternal</a> by JR Ward</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3B0mnkd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Darkfever </a>by Karen Marie Moning</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47kNHpm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Texas Destiny</a> by Lorraine Heath&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gn99hm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Only You </a>by Elizabeth Lowell</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47nINb9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lothaire</a> by Kresley Cole</li></ul><br/><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/tag/Kate+Clayborn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kate Clayborn</a> and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/tag/Adriana+Herrera" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adriana Herrera</a>, we’ve had both of them on more episodes that we can count. Kate’s latest book is <a href="https://amzn.to/4ghdN0v" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Other Side of Disappearing</a>, and Adriana’s is <a href="https://amzn.to/3z42p7z" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">An Island Princess Starts a Scandal.&nbsp;</a></li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li>Katelyn Brehm, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/4dY8qlp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Art Collector</em> and <em>The Siren's Song</em>, the first two books in the Demons Among Us series</a>, available in <a href="https://amzn.to/4dY8qlp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">print or ebook</a>.</li><li>Blue Box Press, publishers of Kristen Ashley's <em>Embracing the Change</em>, available in print, ebook, and audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/4ehEfFv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.</li><li>Avery Maxwell, author of <em>Love Notes and Lifelines</em>, available in print or ebook or <a href="https://amzn.to/3XmSC4l" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li>Buns &amp; Roses Romance Tea for Literacy, Sunday, October 20th, in Dallas, TX. Proceeds go to the Richardson, TX Adult Literacy Center. <a href="https://www.ralc.org/buns-roses/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Get tickets and more information</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/9/10/s0701-the-magnificent-season-seven-with-kate-clayborn-and-adriana-herrera </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seven is heaven! Today, we are celebrating seven seasons of Fated Mates and this genre that we just can't get enough of with two people we just can't get enough of--Kate Clayborn and Adriana Herrera! We're talking about books, about the tropes we love, about the little bits of romance that make it the very very best. We're also thanking you for listening for seven seasons--and also being the very very best.</p><p>If you also love romance, maybe you want to join our Patreon, where you get another episode from us each month, and access to the incredible readers and listeners and brilliant people on the Fated Mates discord! Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>.</p><p>Our first read along of Season 7 will be Molly O'Keefe's <a href="https://amzn.to/4dKOeU4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Everything I Left Unsaid</em></a> duology, selected by Jen which despite the first book being a cliffhanger should not surprise you because she contains multitudes. The second book is The Truth About Him. Read them both and get ready for Jen to talk to you for hours. You will thank us.</p><p>Also! We're back on the phonebanking train this election season! Join us on Saturdays between now and Election Day to phonebank with fellow romance lovers, Jen, Sarah, and special guests who will knock your socks off! Learn more and register at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/fatedstates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/fatedstates</a>.</p><h2>The Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Zgl5M1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Other Side of Disappearing</a> by Kate Clayborn</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XHaHMc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Luck of the Draw</a> by Kate Clayborn</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3B0mhcl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">On the Hustle</a> by Adriana Herrera</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4d5CdqS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">An Island Princess Starts a Scandal</a> by Adriana Herrera</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3ATeNYo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Clan of the Cave Bear</a> by Jean Auel</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3AZFGtS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hollywood Wives</a> by Jackie collins&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4dSgynk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Thorn Birds</a> by <strong>Colleen McCullough</strong></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4dUn0Kw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bet Me</a> by Jennifer Crusie</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3MGjuYc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Gift</a> by Julie Garwood</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3MFsSvf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Run Posy Run</a> by Cate Wells</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3MBYxhc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Devil in Winter</a> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3XHaMQ0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Flowers From the Storm</a> by Laura Kinsale</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3AZYLfq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Magic Rises</a> by Ilona Andrews</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3AZY45N" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lover Eternal</a> by JR Ward</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3B0mnkd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Darkfever </a>by Karen Marie Moning</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47kNHpm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Texas Destiny</a> by Lorraine Heath&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4gn99hm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Only You </a>by Elizabeth Lowell</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47nINb9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lothaire</a> by Kresley Cole</li></ul><br/><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/tag/Kate+Clayborn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kate Clayborn</a> and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/tag/Adriana+Herrera" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adriana Herrera</a>, we’ve had both of them on more episodes that we can count. Kate’s latest book is <a href="https://amzn.to/4ghdN0v" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Other Side of Disappearing</a>, and Adriana’s is <a href="https://amzn.to/3z42p7z" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">An Island Princess Starts a Scandal.&nbsp;</a></li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li>Katelyn Brehm, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/4dY8qlp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Art Collector</em> and <em>The Siren's Song</em>, the first two books in the Demons Among Us series</a>, available in <a href="https://amzn.to/4dY8qlp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">print or ebook</a>.</li><li>Blue Box Press, publishers of Kristen Ashley's <em>Embracing the Change</em>, available in print, ebook, and audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/4ehEfFv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.</li><li>Avery Maxwell, author of <em>Love Notes and Lifelines</em>, available in print or ebook or <a href="https://amzn.to/3XmSC4l" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li>Buns &amp; Roses Romance Tea for Literacy, Sunday, October 20th, in Dallas, TX. Proceeds go to the Richardson, TX Adult Literacy Center. <a href="https://www.ralc.org/buns-roses/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Get tickets and more information</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/9/10/s0701-the-magnificent-season-seven-with-kate-clayborn-and-adriana-herrera </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/9/10/s0701-the-magnificent-season-seven-with-kate-clayborn-and-adriana-herrera]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">60c031f3-5c4b-4191-9ffe-a2443a8f498a</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 10 Sep 2024 20:20:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/4a15cbf9-6862-4ba8-b64e-ce885dbfd5a5/fated-mates-season-seven-premiere.mp3" length="102000475" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:45:43</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>1</podcast:episode><podcast:season>7</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-4a15cbf9-6862-4ba8-b64e-ce885dbfd5a5.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>Stop Book Banning 2024</title><itunes:title>Stop Book Banning 2024</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>While we're off this week, we're encouraging everyone to listen to our Stop Book Banning episode, rereleased with new content! This week, we're talking to Maggie Tokuda-Hall, one of the founders of Authors Against Book Bans about the growth of book bans around the country in 2024. </p><p>Book bans in United States schools and libraries are at their highest since the ALA Office of Intellectual Freedom started collecting data, happening around the country, in every state, and disproportionately affecting books by and about LGBTQIA+ and BIPOC people. What’s more, challenges are likely underreported, because librarians who are resisting them are facing unprecedented workplace retribution and in some cases physical danger.</p><p>Book Bans are on the ballot this year in every state and local election, up and down the ticket. State legislatures, local town councils, county leadership and school boards are being overrun with candidates supported by conservative activists looking to limit access to books and ideas that offer identity, empathy, awareness, and power to young people around the country. </p><p>We’re concerned, so today, we’re releasing a special episode of Fated Mates focused on book bans across the country. We interview three experts on what’s happening, who is most impacted, and how we can all help. Show notes are extensive, and we hope you’ll take a look at them. </p><h2><strong>The Guests</strong></h2><p><a href="https://www.prettyokmaggie.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Maggie Tokuda-Hall</a>, author, activist, podcaster and founding member of <a href="https://AuthorsAgainstBookBans.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Authors Against Book Bans</a></p><p><a href="https://www.jarrettdapier.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jarett Dapier</a>, librarian, activist and author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3dXFTmd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Mr. Watson’s Chickens</em></a>. Jarrett is offering his complete stage adaption of Chris Crutcher's YA novel "The Sledding Hill" to the Office for Intellectual Freedom in support of Banned Books Week as a free download to read. Schools and communities interested in performing the play can do so with a <a href="https://www.ala.org/bbooks/sledding-hill" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">$75 donation to the ALA's Office of Intellectual Freedom</a>. </p><p>Lily Freeman, activist and student in Central Bucks County, PA. <a href="https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/commentary/central-bucks-trans-teen-lgbtq-book-ban-20220908.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Read Lily’s op-ed</a> in the Philadelphia Inquirer and follow her instagram at <a href="https://www.instagram.com/projectuncensored/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ProjectUncensored</a>. Congratulations, Lily, on your graduation!</p><p><a href="http://www.melissacwalker.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Melissa Walker</a>, political activist at <a href="https://statesproject.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The States Project</a>, journalist, and <a href="https://amzn.to/3RpEAtL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Middle Grade and YA author</a> of <em>Violet on the Runway</em>, <em>Let’s Pretend We Never Met</em>, <em>Small Town Sinners </em>and more. </p><h2><strong>The Resources</strong></h2><p><a href="https://AuthorsAgainstBookBans.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Authors Against Book Bans</a>, the author and creator wing of the fight for the freedom to read</p><p><a href="https://ncac.org/youth-censorship-database" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Youth Censorship Database</a> at the National Coalition Against Censorship</p><p><a href="https://bookriot.com/category/censorship/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book Riot’s censorship coverage</a> is excellent and updated almost daily. They have an excellent explainer for <a href="https://bookriot.com/anti-censorship-groups/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">how to find and develop a local anti-censorship group</a></p><p><a href="https://www.oif.ala.org/oif/intellectual-freedom-news-8-26-2022/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Intellectual Round Table Freedom Blog</a>: an exhaustive list of links related to news about challenges, censorship, and banning incidents, developing issues, and controversies that is updated weekly</p><p><a href="https://pen.org/report/banned-usa-growing-movement-to-censor-books-in-schools/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">PEN America’s data on School Book Bans</a> and <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Tj5WQVBmB6SQg-zP_M8uZsQQGH09TxmBY73v23zpyr0/edit#gid=1505554870" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Index of Educational Gag Orders</a></p><p><a href="https://www.ala.org/tools/challengesupport" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">American Library Association’s Office for Intellectual Freedom</a>, full of resources and toolkits on challenges and how to combat them</p><p><a href="https://whyy.org/articles/central-bucks-schools-book-ban-policy/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What’s happening in Central Bucks County, PA</a> is happening all over the country. Kids, families and educators are <a href="https://www.inquirer.com/news/banned-books-doylestown-parade-censorship-20220925.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">protesting loudly</a></p><p><a href="https://advocatesforinclusiveeducation.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Advocates for Inclusive Education</a>, for more information on what’s happening on the ground in Bucks County, PA</p><p>A <a href="https://guides.library.illinois.edu/c.php?g=348306&amp;p=2346985" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">map from ALA Banned Books week at the University of Illinois Library</a>, and another from <a href="https://redwine.blue/bbb/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Red Wine &amp; Blue</a>. </p><p>Teens around the country can <a href="https://www.bklynlibrary.org/media/press/brooklyn-public-library-94" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">get library cards from the Brooklyn Public Library</a>. To apply for the card, teens can send a note to <a href="mailto:BooksUnbanned@bklynlibrary.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">BooksUnbanned@bklynlibrary.org</a>, or via the Library’s s teen-run Instagram account, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/bklynfuture/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@bklynfuture</a>. The $50 fee normally associated with out-of-state cards will be waived</p><p>Learn more about the <a href="https://redwine.blue/bbb/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book Ban Busters at Red Wine &amp; Blue</a>.</p><p><a href="https://ballotpedia.org/Sample_Ballot_Lookup" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ballotpedia</a> is a resource for your local ballot and your local election maps</p><p><a href="https://vote.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vote.org</a>, to check your voter registration, locate your voting place and more</p><h2 class="ql-align-center"><strong>How to Help</strong></h2><p>Educate yourself about the book challenge process in your school district: How it works, who sits on the book challenge committee, how those committee members are appointed.</p><p>If there are <a href="https://guides.library.illinois.edu/c.php?g=348306&amp;p=2346985" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">book bans and protests in your school district</a>, attend local school board meetings and support students, teachers &amp; librarians who are speaking up. </p><p>Tell your local public and school librarians they have your support. Write letters. Visit the library. Thank them for standing for intellectual freedom.</p><p><a href="https://ballotpedia.org/Sample_Ballot_Lookup" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Research school board candidates in your district</a>. Vote accordingly. </p><p>Consider <a href="https://runforsomething.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">running for something!</a> Your school board and your state legislature need you! Consider this us telling you seven times! (We’ll phonebank for you!) </p><p>Vote to <a href="https://statesproject.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">flip your state legislature blue.</a> Rally your friends to join you in <a href="https://statesproject.org/get-involved/giving-circles/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a Giving Circle at the States Project</a>.</p><p>If you're an author or creator, join <a href="https://AuthorsAgainstBookBans.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Authors Against Book Bans</a>.</p><p>Donate to organizations (listed below) that support intellectual freedom and combat book bans. </p><h2 class="ql-align-center"><strong>Organizations to Support (and Volunteer with)</strong></h2><p>Donate to the <a href="http://ftrf.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Freedom To Read Foundation</a> and become a member. The Freedom To Read Foundation effectively conducts important first amendment legal work regarding book bans and censorship.</p><p><a href="https://glsen.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">GLSEN</a>, Creating a Better World for LGBTQ Students</p><p><a href="https://ec.ala.org/donation/OIF-0606-ENDOWM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Intellectual Freedom Endowment Fund</a> at the American Library Association</p><p><a href="https://ncac.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The National Coalition Against Censorship</a>, providing direct intervention for people and groups facing censorship</p><p><a href="https://statesproject.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The States Project</a>, helping to flip (or keep) state legislatures blue</p><p><a href="https://thetrevorproject.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Trevor Project</a>, supporting LGBTQ young people 24/7, all year round</p><p><a...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While we're off this week, we're encouraging everyone to listen to our Stop Book Banning episode, rereleased with new content! This week, we're talking to Maggie Tokuda-Hall, one of the founders of Authors Against Book Bans about the growth of book bans around the country in 2024. </p><p>Book bans in United States schools and libraries are at their highest since the ALA Office of Intellectual Freedom started collecting data, happening around the country, in every state, and disproportionately affecting books by and about LGBTQIA+ and BIPOC people. What’s more, challenges are likely underreported, because librarians who are resisting them are facing unprecedented workplace retribution and in some cases physical danger.</p><p>Book Bans are on the ballot this year in every state and local election, up and down the ticket. State legislatures, local town councils, county leadership and school boards are being overrun with candidates supported by conservative activists looking to limit access to books and ideas that offer identity, empathy, awareness, and power to young people around the country. </p><p>We’re concerned, so today, we’re releasing a special episode of Fated Mates focused on book bans across the country. We interview three experts on what’s happening, who is most impacted, and how we can all help. Show notes are extensive, and we hope you’ll take a look at them. </p><h2><strong>The Guests</strong></h2><p><a href="https://www.prettyokmaggie.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Maggie Tokuda-Hall</a>, author, activist, podcaster and founding member of <a href="https://AuthorsAgainstBookBans.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Authors Against Book Bans</a></p><p><a href="https://www.jarrettdapier.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jarett Dapier</a>, librarian, activist and author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3dXFTmd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Mr. Watson’s Chickens</em></a>. Jarrett is offering his complete stage adaption of Chris Crutcher's YA novel "The Sledding Hill" to the Office for Intellectual Freedom in support of Banned Books Week as a free download to read. Schools and communities interested in performing the play can do so with a <a href="https://www.ala.org/bbooks/sledding-hill" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">$75 donation to the ALA's Office of Intellectual Freedom</a>. </p><p>Lily Freeman, activist and student in Central Bucks County, PA. <a href="https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/commentary/central-bucks-trans-teen-lgbtq-book-ban-20220908.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Read Lily’s op-ed</a> in the Philadelphia Inquirer and follow her instagram at <a href="https://www.instagram.com/projectuncensored/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ProjectUncensored</a>. Congratulations, Lily, on your graduation!</p><p><a href="http://www.melissacwalker.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Melissa Walker</a>, political activist at <a href="https://statesproject.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The States Project</a>, journalist, and <a href="https://amzn.to/3RpEAtL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Middle Grade and YA author</a> of <em>Violet on the Runway</em>, <em>Let’s Pretend We Never Met</em>, <em>Small Town Sinners </em>and more. </p><h2><strong>The Resources</strong></h2><p><a href="https://AuthorsAgainstBookBans.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Authors Against Book Bans</a>, the author and creator wing of the fight for the freedom to read</p><p><a href="https://ncac.org/youth-censorship-database" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Youth Censorship Database</a> at the National Coalition Against Censorship</p><p><a href="https://bookriot.com/category/censorship/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book Riot’s censorship coverage</a> is excellent and updated almost daily. They have an excellent explainer for <a href="https://bookriot.com/anti-censorship-groups/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">how to find and develop a local anti-censorship group</a></p><p><a href="https://www.oif.ala.org/oif/intellectual-freedom-news-8-26-2022/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Intellectual Round Table Freedom Blog</a>: an exhaustive list of links related to news about challenges, censorship, and banning incidents, developing issues, and controversies that is updated weekly</p><p><a href="https://pen.org/report/banned-usa-growing-movement-to-censor-books-in-schools/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">PEN America’s data on School Book Bans</a> and <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Tj5WQVBmB6SQg-zP_M8uZsQQGH09TxmBY73v23zpyr0/edit#gid=1505554870" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Index of Educational Gag Orders</a></p><p><a href="https://www.ala.org/tools/challengesupport" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">American Library Association’s Office for Intellectual Freedom</a>, full of resources and toolkits on challenges and how to combat them</p><p><a href="https://whyy.org/articles/central-bucks-schools-book-ban-policy/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What’s happening in Central Bucks County, PA</a> is happening all over the country. Kids, families and educators are <a href="https://www.inquirer.com/news/banned-books-doylestown-parade-censorship-20220925.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">protesting loudly</a></p><p><a href="https://advocatesforinclusiveeducation.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Advocates for Inclusive Education</a>, for more information on what’s happening on the ground in Bucks County, PA</p><p>A <a href="https://guides.library.illinois.edu/c.php?g=348306&amp;p=2346985" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">map from ALA Banned Books week at the University of Illinois Library</a>, and another from <a href="https://redwine.blue/bbb/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Red Wine &amp; Blue</a>. </p><p>Teens around the country can <a href="https://www.bklynlibrary.org/media/press/brooklyn-public-library-94" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">get library cards from the Brooklyn Public Library</a>. To apply for the card, teens can send a note to <a href="mailto:BooksUnbanned@bklynlibrary.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">BooksUnbanned@bklynlibrary.org</a>, or via the Library’s s teen-run Instagram account, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/bklynfuture/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@bklynfuture</a>. The $50 fee normally associated with out-of-state cards will be waived</p><p>Learn more about the <a href="https://redwine.blue/bbb/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book Ban Busters at Red Wine &amp; Blue</a>.</p><p><a href="https://ballotpedia.org/Sample_Ballot_Lookup" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ballotpedia</a> is a resource for your local ballot and your local election maps</p><p><a href="https://vote.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vote.org</a>, to check your voter registration, locate your voting place and more</p><h2 class="ql-align-center"><strong>How to Help</strong></h2><p>Educate yourself about the book challenge process in your school district: How it works, who sits on the book challenge committee, how those committee members are appointed.</p><p>If there are <a href="https://guides.library.illinois.edu/c.php?g=348306&amp;p=2346985" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">book bans and protests in your school district</a>, attend local school board meetings and support students, teachers &amp; librarians who are speaking up. </p><p>Tell your local public and school librarians they have your support. Write letters. Visit the library. Thank them for standing for intellectual freedom.</p><p><a href="https://ballotpedia.org/Sample_Ballot_Lookup" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Research school board candidates in your district</a>. Vote accordingly. </p><p>Consider <a href="https://runforsomething.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">running for something!</a> Your school board and your state legislature need you! Consider this us telling you seven times! (We’ll phonebank for you!) </p><p>Vote to <a href="https://statesproject.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">flip your state legislature blue.</a> Rally your friends to join you in <a href="https://statesproject.org/get-involved/giving-circles/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a Giving Circle at the States Project</a>.</p><p>If you're an author or creator, join <a href="https://AuthorsAgainstBookBans.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Authors Against Book Bans</a>.</p><p>Donate to organizations (listed below) that support intellectual freedom and combat book bans. </p><h2 class="ql-align-center"><strong>Organizations to Support (and Volunteer with)</strong></h2><p>Donate to the <a href="http://ftrf.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Freedom To Read Foundation</a> and become a member. The Freedom To Read Foundation effectively conducts important first amendment legal work regarding book bans and censorship.</p><p><a href="https://glsen.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">GLSEN</a>, Creating a Better World for LGBTQ Students</p><p><a href="https://ec.ala.org/donation/OIF-0606-ENDOWM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Intellectual Freedom Endowment Fund</a> at the American Library Association</p><p><a href="https://ncac.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The National Coalition Against Censorship</a>, providing direct intervention for people and groups facing censorship</p><p><a href="https://statesproject.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The States Project</a>, helping to flip (or keep) state legislatures blue</p><p><a href="https://thetrevorproject.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Trevor Project</a>, supporting LGBTQ young people 24/7, all year round</p><p><a href="https://www.webelieveineducation.org/about/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">We Believe in Education</a>, a movement of parents and families fighting for students’ freedom to learn</p><p>Your local Freedom to Read organization, which you can find with a quick web search!</p><p><br></p><p>r1qqzChZcbawCZ6X3BVO</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/9/3/stop-book-banning-2024]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">0599f887-ee25-4306-906d-3a43dd3b4c8d</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 03 Sep 2024 21:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/97e7bd18-8657-4791-9623-39c9e7a970d8/fated-mates-book-bans-2024.mp3" length="141215205" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>02:26:34</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>52</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>52</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season></item><item><title>S06.51: College Bound: New Adult Romance</title><itunes:title>College Bound: New Adult Romance</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Everything old is new again...or young again? We're talking about New Adult romance today, that is, romance novels where the love story is set at or during college! We're hopping in the time machine and headed a generation or two back in romance to talk about the first time New Adult came around changing the contemporary romance game. We're getting to the bottom of why these particular love stories work so well when it comes to feelings, and asking that eternal question -- has anyone involved in this subgenre actually met a 19 year old man? (JK, we support you!) </p><p>We're taking next week off, but we'll be back the week after for the start of our Seventh Season! If you'd like more romance chatter in the meantime, we encourage you to join our patreon, where you get another episode from us each month, and access to the incredible readers and listeners and brilliant people on the Fated Mates discord! Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>.</p><p>Our first read along of Season 7 will be Molly O'Keefe's <a href="https://amzn.to/4dKOeU4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Everything I Left Unsaid</em></a> duology, selected by Jen which despite the first book being a cliffhanger should not surprise you because she contains multitudes. The second book is The Truth About Him. Read them both and get ready for Jen to talk to you for hours. You will thank us.</p><p>Also! We're back on the phonebanking train this election season! Join us on Saturdays between now and Election Day to phonebank with fellow romance lovers, Jen, Sarah, and special guests who will knock your socks off! Learn more and register at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/fatedstates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/fatedstates</a>.</p><h2>The Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4dROmkk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">50 Shades of Grey</a> by EL James</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3AzUy1J" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wait for You </a>&nbsp;by Jennifer Armentrout</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4dC7zqr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Wild Seasons Series</a> by Christina Lauren</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4cHi1vu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Butterfly</a> by Jo Brenner</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3T5E3kw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">First Semester</a> by QB Tyler&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3T6ab7G" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Losing It</a> by Cora Carmack</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4cOQdVL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Never Sweeter</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/3AHBnmL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Professor</a> by Charlotte Stein</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Z1JR2n" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Unrequited</a> by Saffron Kent</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Z3BYtg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sincerely, Carter</a> by Whitney G</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3WZNTpj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Boys Next Door</a> by Miranda Silver</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3WVHco8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Game On Series</a> by Kristen Callihan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Z3aFzk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Deal</a> by Elle Kennedy</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3z7kIIN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Foreplay</a> by Sophie Jordan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Z5D0EX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lick</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/4cHzzYi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Play</a> by Kylie Scott</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4e16qsg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Love Hypothesis</a> by Ali Hazelwood</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/476w504" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fourth Wing</a> by Rebecca Yaros</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4g3TSSI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">One and Done</a> by Frederick Smith</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ejlBNF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wicked Serve </a>by Grace Reilly</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/472pEeI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Real </a>by Katy Evans</li></ul><br/><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li>At the beginning of season 6, Sarah and Lo (Lauren Billings from Christina Lauren) recorded a <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/10/10/s0605-hot-for-teacher-with-special-guest-lauren-billings" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hot for Teacher episode</a>. Also <a href="https://youtu.be/6M4_Ommfvv0?si=9e4FUGjgGtJW90sH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a popular Van Halen song</a> from the 80s, and the video is honestly something else.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/childrens/childrens-authors/article/92990-new-adult-the-category-in-between-that-everyone-forgot.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What is new adult as a subgenre?</a></li><li>Risks of college life are well-documented, <a href="https://www.mayoclinichealthsystem.org/hometown-health/speaking-of-health/college-students-and-depression" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">depression</a>, <a href="https://www.psychiatrictimes.com/view/substance-misuse-in-college-students" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">substance abuse</a>, and <a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6237644/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">higher rates of violence toward women.</a></li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li>Roxy Sloane, author of <em>Cross My Heart</em>, available in print, ebook, audiobook or <a href="https://amzn.to/4dCZ6TD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li>Blue Box Press, publishers of Rachel Van Dyken's <em>Love Hazard</em>, available in print, ebook, and audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/4dzFakC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.</li><li>Sara Cate, author of <em>The Heartbreaker</em>, available in print, ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/47bjNUw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><a href="https://LumiGummies.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lumi Gummies</a>--use the code FATED50 for $50 off your first order,  or use the code FATEDMATES for 30% off your next order. </li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/8/27/0651-college-bound-new-adult-romance </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everything old is new again...or young again? We're talking about New Adult romance today, that is, romance novels where the love story is set at or during college! We're hopping in the time machine and headed a generation or two back in romance to talk about the first time New Adult came around changing the contemporary romance game. We're getting to the bottom of why these particular love stories work so well when it comes to feelings, and asking that eternal question -- has anyone involved in this subgenre actually met a 19 year old man? (JK, we support you!) </p><p>We're taking next week off, but we'll be back the week after for the start of our Seventh Season! If you'd like more romance chatter in the meantime, we encourage you to join our patreon, where you get another episode from us each month, and access to the incredible readers and listeners and brilliant people on the Fated Mates discord! Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>.</p><p>Our first read along of Season 7 will be Molly O'Keefe's <a href="https://amzn.to/4dKOeU4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Everything I Left Unsaid</em></a> duology, selected by Jen which despite the first book being a cliffhanger should not surprise you because she contains multitudes. The second book is The Truth About Him. Read them both and get ready for Jen to talk to you for hours. You will thank us.</p><p>Also! We're back on the phonebanking train this election season! Join us on Saturdays between now and Election Day to phonebank with fellow romance lovers, Jen, Sarah, and special guests who will knock your socks off! Learn more and register at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/fatedstates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/fatedstates</a>.</p><h2>The Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4dROmkk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">50 Shades of Grey</a> by EL James</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3AzUy1J" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wait for You </a>&nbsp;by Jennifer Armentrout</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4dC7zqr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Wild Seasons Series</a> by Christina Lauren</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4cHi1vu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Butterfly</a> by Jo Brenner</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3T5E3kw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">First Semester</a> by QB Tyler&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3T6ab7G" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Losing It</a> by Cora Carmack</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4cOQdVL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Never Sweeter</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/3AHBnmL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Professor</a> by Charlotte Stein</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Z1JR2n" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Unrequited</a> by Saffron Kent</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Z3BYtg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sincerely, Carter</a> by Whitney G</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3WZNTpj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Boys Next Door</a> by Miranda Silver</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3WVHco8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Game On Series</a> by Kristen Callihan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Z3aFzk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Deal</a> by Elle Kennedy</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3z7kIIN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Foreplay</a> by Sophie Jordan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Z5D0EX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lick</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/4cHzzYi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Play</a> by Kylie Scott</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4e16qsg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Love Hypothesis</a> by Ali Hazelwood</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/476w504" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fourth Wing</a> by Rebecca Yaros</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4g3TSSI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">One and Done</a> by Frederick Smith</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ejlBNF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wicked Serve </a>by Grace Reilly</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/472pEeI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Real </a>by Katy Evans</li></ul><br/><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li>At the beginning of season 6, Sarah and Lo (Lauren Billings from Christina Lauren) recorded a <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/10/10/s0605-hot-for-teacher-with-special-guest-lauren-billings" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hot for Teacher episode</a>. Also <a href="https://youtu.be/6M4_Ommfvv0?si=9e4FUGjgGtJW90sH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a popular Van Halen song</a> from the 80s, and the video is honestly something else.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/childrens/childrens-authors/article/92990-new-adult-the-category-in-between-that-everyone-forgot.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What is new adult as a subgenre?</a></li><li>Risks of college life are well-documented, <a href="https://www.mayoclinichealthsystem.org/hometown-health/speaking-of-health/college-students-and-depression" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">depression</a>, <a href="https://www.psychiatrictimes.com/view/substance-misuse-in-college-students" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">substance abuse</a>, and <a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6237644/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">higher rates of violence toward women.</a></li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li>Roxy Sloane, author of <em>Cross My Heart</em>, available in print, ebook, audiobook or <a href="https://amzn.to/4dCZ6TD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li>Blue Box Press, publishers of Rachel Van Dyken's <em>Love Hazard</em>, available in print, ebook, and audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/4dzFakC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.</li><li>Sara Cate, author of <em>The Heartbreaker</em>, available in print, ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/47bjNUw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><a href="https://LumiGummies.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lumi Gummies</a>--use the code FATED50 for $50 off your first order,  or use the code FATEDMATES for 30% off your next order. </li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/8/27/0651-college-bound-new-adult-romance </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/8/27/0651-college-bound-new-adult-romance]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">c7a6a03c-cdda-400c-abea-84437ce90b69</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 27 Aug 2024 17:04:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/b3035a0a-8620-4b84-baa5-660174eea9a3/fated-mates-new-adult.mp3" length="81596022" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:24:28</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>51</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>51</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-b3035a0a-8620-4b84-baa5-660174eea9a3.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S06.50: Daddy Issues (not the fun kind) with Christopher Rice</title><itunes:title>Daddy Issues (not the fun kind) with Chris Rice</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We're back with Christopher Rice celebrating one of the longest running themes in romance: Daddy Issues (not the good kind)! Christopher writes romance under the pen name C. Travis Rice, and today, we're talking about his recent banger, Sapphire Dawn. We talk about the longstanding history of characters with terrible fathers, about why romance seems to love a bad dad, about our favorite characters with terrible fathers, and about why terrible fathers make the best heroes? (we know! it's problematic!) All that, and we're talking about Nora Roberts and (gasp!) Janet Dailey! </p><p>We're coming up on the end of Season 6 (what?! how!?), and so incredibly grateful to you for listening. If you'd like more romance chatter, we encourage you to join our patreon, where you get another episode from us each month, and access to the incredible readers and listeners and brilliant people on the Fated Mates discord! Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>.</p><p>Also! We're back on the phonebanking train this election season! Join us on Saturdays between now and Election Day to phonebank with fellow romance lovers, Jen, Sarah, and special guests who will knock your socks off! Learn more and register at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/fatedstates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/fatedstates</a>. </p><h2>The Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4dSi0FM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sapphire Sunset</a> by C Travis Rice</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3SZUHCa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sapphire Spring</a> by C Travis Rice</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4cET6IO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sapphire Storm</a> by C Travis Rice</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Aq47Af" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sapphire Dawn</a> by C Travis Rice</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4dR43YJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Dream Trilogy</a> by Nora Roberts</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4dUp30Z" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">In Death</a> by JD Robb</li><li>T<a href="https://amzn.to/4du9lJP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">he Kate Daniels Series</a> by Ilona Andrews</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4dS4QZq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Secret Lives of Country Gentlemen</a> by KJ Charles</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Au8la1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love in the Time of Scandal</a> by Caroline Linden</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46YLbor" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kiss an Angel</a> by Susan Elizabeth Phillips</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46YLdg3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fix Her Up</a> by Tessa Bailey</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47b1qiB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">52 Reasons to Hate my Father</a> by Jessica Brody</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4fRdPMo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Love Song for Ricki Wilde</a> by Tia Williams</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3MkEAep" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Her Naughty Holiday</a> by Tiffany Reisz&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3MeGtcE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">This Calder Range</a> by Janet Dailey</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3yMqxv8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Duke of Desire</a> by Elizabeth Hoyt</li></ul><br/><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome author <a href="http://www.christopherricebooks.com/book-author/c-travis-rice/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Christopher Rice</a> who writes gay romance as C. Travis Rice. His current series is called Sapphire Cove, and his most recent release is Sapphire Dawn. Christopher and his best friend Eric Shawn Quinn host a podcast called <a href="https://thedinnerpartyshow.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Dinner Party Show.&nbsp;</a></li><li>The great <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/best-dish-soap/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">dish soap decision</a>: Dawn vs. <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/oddlyspecific/comments/v3vskg/it_took_me_longer_than_66_years/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ajax</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Check out some of our trailblazers referenced this episode: <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/11/13/s0411-vincent-virga-a-trailblazers-episode" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vincent Virga</a>, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/10/10/s0405-trailblazer-radclyffe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Radclyffe</a>, and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/4/5/s0429-nora-roberts-trailblazer" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nora Roberts.&nbsp;</a></li><li>If you want to learn more about Janet Dailey and the plagiarism scandal that tarnished her name, check out <a href="https://reformedrakes.com/episodes/janet-dailey-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Reformed Rakes episodes about her</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Maybe you want to read what <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/07/22/were-pirates-foes-of-the-modern-order-or-its-secret-sharers" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the New Yorker</a> has to say about pirates. </li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li>Robyn Peterman, author of <em>As The Underworld Turns</em>, available in print, ebook, audiobook or <a href="https://amzn.to/3X7Q3UZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>. </li><li>Blue Box Press, publishers of Kristen Proby's <em>The Substitute</em>, available in print, ebook, and audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/3X9SJ4x" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.</li><li>Victoria Hamel, author of <em>Is This Love Fur Real?</em>, available in print, ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/4fSolmw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>. </li><li>Bri Castellini, author of <em>Rehabbing the Billionaire</em>, available in print, ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/4cuIHzf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>. </li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/8/20/s0650-daddy-issues-with-chris-rice </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We're back with Christopher Rice celebrating one of the longest running themes in romance: Daddy Issues (not the good kind)! Christopher writes romance under the pen name C. Travis Rice, and today, we're talking about his recent banger, Sapphire Dawn. We talk about the longstanding history of characters with terrible fathers, about why romance seems to love a bad dad, about our favorite characters with terrible fathers, and about why terrible fathers make the best heroes? (we know! it's problematic!) All that, and we're talking about Nora Roberts and (gasp!) Janet Dailey! </p><p>We're coming up on the end of Season 6 (what?! how!?), and so incredibly grateful to you for listening. If you'd like more romance chatter, we encourage you to join our patreon, where you get another episode from us each month, and access to the incredible readers and listeners and brilliant people on the Fated Mates discord! Support us and learn more at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>.</p><p>Also! We're back on the phonebanking train this election season! Join us on Saturdays between now and Election Day to phonebank with fellow romance lovers, Jen, Sarah, and special guests who will knock your socks off! Learn more and register at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/fatedstates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/fatedstates</a>. </p><h2>The Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4dSi0FM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sapphire Sunset</a> by C Travis Rice</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3SZUHCa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sapphire Spring</a> by C Travis Rice</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4cET6IO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sapphire Storm</a> by C Travis Rice</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Aq47Af" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sapphire Dawn</a> by C Travis Rice</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4dR43YJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Dream Trilogy</a> by Nora Roberts</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4dUp30Z" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">In Death</a> by JD Robb</li><li>T<a href="https://amzn.to/4du9lJP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">he Kate Daniels Series</a> by Ilona Andrews</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4dS4QZq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Secret Lives of Country Gentlemen</a> by KJ Charles</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Au8la1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love in the Time of Scandal</a> by Caroline Linden</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46YLbor" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kiss an Angel</a> by Susan Elizabeth Phillips</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46YLdg3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fix Her Up</a> by Tessa Bailey</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/47b1qiB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">52 Reasons to Hate my Father</a> by Jessica Brody</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4fRdPMo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Love Song for Ricki Wilde</a> by Tia Williams</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3MkEAep" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Her Naughty Holiday</a> by Tiffany Reisz&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3MeGtcE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">This Calder Range</a> by Janet Dailey</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3yMqxv8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Duke of Desire</a> by Elizabeth Hoyt</li></ul><br/><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome author <a href="http://www.christopherricebooks.com/book-author/c-travis-rice/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Christopher Rice</a> who writes gay romance as C. Travis Rice. His current series is called Sapphire Cove, and his most recent release is Sapphire Dawn. Christopher and his best friend Eric Shawn Quinn host a podcast called <a href="https://thedinnerpartyshow.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Dinner Party Show.&nbsp;</a></li><li>The great <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/best-dish-soap/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">dish soap decision</a>: Dawn vs. <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/oddlyspecific/comments/v3vskg/it_took_me_longer_than_66_years/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ajax</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Check out some of our trailblazers referenced this episode: <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/11/13/s0411-vincent-virga-a-trailblazers-episode" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vincent Virga</a>, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/10/10/s0405-trailblazer-radclyffe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Radclyffe</a>, and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/4/5/s0429-nora-roberts-trailblazer" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nora Roberts.&nbsp;</a></li><li>If you want to learn more about Janet Dailey and the plagiarism scandal that tarnished her name, check out <a href="https://reformedrakes.com/episodes/janet-dailey-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Reformed Rakes episodes about her</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Maybe you want to read what <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/07/22/were-pirates-foes-of-the-modern-order-or-its-secret-sharers" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the New Yorker</a> has to say about pirates. </li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li>Robyn Peterman, author of <em>As The Underworld Turns</em>, available in print, ebook, audiobook or <a href="https://amzn.to/3X7Q3UZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>. </li><li>Blue Box Press, publishers of Kristen Proby's <em>The Substitute</em>, available in print, ebook, and audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/3X9SJ4x" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.</li><li>Victoria Hamel, author of <em>Is This Love Fur Real?</em>, available in print, ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/4fSolmw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>. </li><li>Bri Castellini, author of <em>Rehabbing the Billionaire</em>, available in print, ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/4cuIHzf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>. </li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/8/20/s0650-daddy-issues-with-chris-rice </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/8/20/s0650-daddy-issues-with-chris-rice]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">3325b03a-6d6b-41bc-9916-863a3a386292</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 20 Aug 2024 08:19:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/9e413d05-6c04-4b99-ba04-5296c30cd931/fated-mates-christopher-rice-2.mp3" length="98373697" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:41:56</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>50</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>50</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-9e413d05-6c04-4b99-ba04-5296c30cd931.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S06.49 Mafia Romance Reasons</title><itunes:title>Mafia Romance Reasons</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This week, we're back to Mafia books, because it's been a few years since we've tackled this one and the landscape has changed drastically. We're talking about the appeal of the organized criminal, the way the genre is the direct descendant of the Medieval romance, and the fact that it underscores some of the deepest seeded patriarchy in the genre--for good and bad. Sarah shows off the Italian and the Italian American in her past, and tells a few stories about people and places she doesn't name because did she see anything? No she didn't. </p><p>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where 1000 other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as we do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>.</p><h2><strong>The Books</strong></h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3YIh42H" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Deviant Hearts</a> by Jagger Cole</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3M1veEm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mafia Virgin</a> by Mila Finelli</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4cv57Au" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bound in Honor </a>by Cora Reilly</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Aw4Q2O" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scorned Vows</a> by Victoria Paige</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ckn2Kh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Because You’re Mine</a> by Claire Contreras</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3SMOoS8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Going Rogue</a> by Amelia Shea</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3M4QLvZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Never Seduce a Scot</a> by Maya Banks</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4cv5pr4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Her Dark Salvation</a> by Katelyn Brehm</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4fFrfLl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vow of Revenge</a> by P. Rayne</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4cmCDsB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">7th Circle</a> by Tate James</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4dJYlIj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ruthless People</a> by JJ MacAvoy</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3AnS8mP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nero</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/4dlEEGW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hans</a> by SJ Tilly</li></ul><br/><h2><strong>The Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Back in 2020, we recorded <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/10/13/s0310-mafia-romance-interstitial-with-nisha-sharma" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">our first mafia romance interstitial with author Nisha Sharma</a>, that season we also had a <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/6/19/s0345-dark-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">dark romance interstitial</a>, and those two genres have only become more popular over time.</li><li>If you’re interested in the real life story of how <a href="https://www.onlyinyourstate.com/rhode-island/providence-mafia-mecca-ri/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Providence RI </a>was a hotbed of organized crim activity, check out <a href="https://gimletmedia.com/shows/crimetown/v4h2xd/chapter-1-divine-providence" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">season one of the Crimetown Podcast</a>. But every town has their famous mobsters: <a href="https://themobmuseum.org/notable_names/al-capone/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Al Capone</a> in Chicago, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Gotti" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">John Gotti</a> in New York, etc, etc. As Jen was preparing show notes for this episode, she discovered there is a Mob Museum, <a href="https://themobmuseum.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The National Museum of Organized Crime and Law Enforcement in Las Vegas</a>, so add that to your bucket list.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001444/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lorenzo Lamas</a> was a favorite 80s Hottie, and the movie <a href="https://youtu.be/ABpeLNCuE3w?si=9LMheLJODkLGx3x_" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Shawshank Redemption</a> had a very important scene with a tunnel behind a movie poster.</li><li>Watch this scene with <a href="https://youtu.be/VC1_tdnZq1A?si=8k3oS1inBYK-kA3n&amp;t=75" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the horse head</a><strong> </strong>and tell Jen she didn’t NAIL it with her impersonation of the guy’s scream. Part of the reason he sounds so horrified…<a href="https://www.thomaswhodgkinson.com/features/the-offer-hollywood-couldnt-refuse/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">that head was real</a> and he didn’t know it?!?!?&nbsp;</li><li>Apparently Joseph Campbell said, “Women don't need to make the journey. In the whole mythological journey, the woman is there. All she has to do is realize that she's the place that people are trying to get to.” And well, we hate it. You might be interested in reading <a href="https://amzn.to/4dlCPty" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Heroine’s Journey by Gail Carriger</a> if you would like to learn more about other ways stories can be organized, and also <a href="https://amzn.to/3X1lXlT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Heroine with 1001 Faces</a> by Maria Tatar.</li></ul><br/><h2><strong>The Sponsors</strong></h2><ul><li>Sophie H. Morgan, author of <em>De-Witched</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/3SOn4Ts" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/de-witched-sophie-h-morgan/1143988681?ean=9781335146649" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/de-witched/id6463421158" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/de-witched-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781335146649" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>,</li><li>1001 Dark Nights, publishers of Jennifer L. Armentrout's <em>Born of Blood and Ash</em>, available in print, ebook, and audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/4fCOZ2N" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/born-of-blood-and-ash-a-flesh-and-fire-novel/id6462335592" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/born-of-blood-and-ash-jennifer-l-armentrout/1143940853?ean=9781957568805" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/born-of-blood-and-ash-a-flesh-and-fire-novel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781957568782" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>,</li><li>TL Swan, author of <em>The Bonus</em>, available in print, ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/3SQCvea" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>. </li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/8/12/s0649-mafia-romance-reasons </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, we're back to Mafia books, because it's been a few years since we've tackled this one and the landscape has changed drastically. We're talking about the appeal of the organized criminal, the way the genre is the direct descendant of the Medieval romance, and the fact that it underscores some of the deepest seeded patriarchy in the genre--for good and bad. Sarah shows off the Italian and the Italian American in her past, and tells a few stories about people and places she doesn't name because did she see anything? No she didn't. </p><p>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where 1000 other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as we do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>.</p><h2><strong>The Books</strong></h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3YIh42H" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Deviant Hearts</a> by Jagger Cole</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3M1veEm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mafia Virgin</a> by Mila Finelli</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4cv57Au" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bound in Honor </a>by Cora Reilly</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Aw4Q2O" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scorned Vows</a> by Victoria Paige</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4ckn2Kh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Because You’re Mine</a> by Claire Contreras</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3SMOoS8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Going Rogue</a> by Amelia Shea</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3M4QLvZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Never Seduce a Scot</a> by Maya Banks</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4cv5pr4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Her Dark Salvation</a> by Katelyn Brehm</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4fFrfLl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vow of Revenge</a> by P. Rayne</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4cmCDsB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">7th Circle</a> by Tate James</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4dJYlIj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ruthless People</a> by JJ MacAvoy</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3AnS8mP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nero</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/4dlEEGW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hans</a> by SJ Tilly</li></ul><br/><h2><strong>The Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Back in 2020, we recorded <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/10/13/s0310-mafia-romance-interstitial-with-nisha-sharma" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">our first mafia romance interstitial with author Nisha Sharma</a>, that season we also had a <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/6/19/s0345-dark-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">dark romance interstitial</a>, and those two genres have only become more popular over time.</li><li>If you’re interested in the real life story of how <a href="https://www.onlyinyourstate.com/rhode-island/providence-mafia-mecca-ri/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Providence RI </a>was a hotbed of organized crim activity, check out <a href="https://gimletmedia.com/shows/crimetown/v4h2xd/chapter-1-divine-providence" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">season one of the Crimetown Podcast</a>. But every town has their famous mobsters: <a href="https://themobmuseum.org/notable_names/al-capone/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Al Capone</a> in Chicago, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Gotti" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">John Gotti</a> in New York, etc, etc. As Jen was preparing show notes for this episode, she discovered there is a Mob Museum, <a href="https://themobmuseum.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The National Museum of Organized Crime and Law Enforcement in Las Vegas</a>, so add that to your bucket list.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001444/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lorenzo Lamas</a> was a favorite 80s Hottie, and the movie <a href="https://youtu.be/ABpeLNCuE3w?si=9LMheLJODkLGx3x_" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Shawshank Redemption</a> had a very important scene with a tunnel behind a movie poster.</li><li>Watch this scene with <a href="https://youtu.be/VC1_tdnZq1A?si=8k3oS1inBYK-kA3n&amp;t=75" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the horse head</a><strong> </strong>and tell Jen she didn’t NAIL it with her impersonation of the guy’s scream. Part of the reason he sounds so horrified…<a href="https://www.thomaswhodgkinson.com/features/the-offer-hollywood-couldnt-refuse/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">that head was real</a> and he didn’t know it?!?!?&nbsp;</li><li>Apparently Joseph Campbell said, “Women don't need to make the journey. In the whole mythological journey, the woman is there. All she has to do is realize that she's the place that people are trying to get to.” And well, we hate it. You might be interested in reading <a href="https://amzn.to/4dlCPty" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Heroine’s Journey by Gail Carriger</a> if you would like to learn more about other ways stories can be organized, and also <a href="https://amzn.to/3X1lXlT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Heroine with 1001 Faces</a> by Maria Tatar.</li></ul><br/><h2><strong>The Sponsors</strong></h2><ul><li>Sophie H. Morgan, author of <em>De-Witched</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/3SOn4Ts" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/de-witched-sophie-h-morgan/1143988681?ean=9781335146649" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/de-witched/id6463421158" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/de-witched-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781335146649" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>,</li><li>1001 Dark Nights, publishers of Jennifer L. Armentrout's <em>Born of Blood and Ash</em>, available in print, ebook, and audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/4fCOZ2N" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/born-of-blood-and-ash-a-flesh-and-fire-novel/id6462335592" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/born-of-blood-and-ash-jennifer-l-armentrout/1143940853?ean=9781957568805" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/born-of-blood-and-ash-a-flesh-and-fire-novel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781957568782" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>,</li><li>TL Swan, author of <em>The Bonus</em>, available in print, ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/3SQCvea" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>. </li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/8/12/s0649-mafia-romance-reasons </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/8/12/s0649-mafia-romance-reasons]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">4bbe494b-ccbc-49c7-a559-7750d6b24c9f</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 13 Aug 2024 22:45:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/ffeaf666-94e0-487b-afdf-786eb3a40e78/fated-mates-mafia-romance-reasons.mp3" length="100908286" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:39:56</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>49</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>49</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-ffeaf666-94e0-487b-afdf-786eb3a40e78.json" type="application/json+chapters"/><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="video/youtube" title="S06.49 Mafia Romance Reasons"><podcast:source uri="https://youtu.be/krFBzd0wAao"/></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>S06.48: Wicked and the Wallflower: The Bareknuckle Bastards Begin</title><itunes:title>Wicked and the Wallflower: The Bareknuckle Bastards Begin</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It's coming up on the end of Season 6, and that means we're talking about one of Sarah's books! We're finishing up (or beginning?) the Bareknuckle Bastards series today with a deep dive of Sarah's Wicked and the Wallflower, the first in her Bareknuckle Bastards series--part Rumplestiltskin retelling, part Peaky Blinders fic, all justifiable face punching and ode to the darkness. This is the series she loves the best, and Jen just might agree. </p><p>You can get <em>Wicked and the Wallflower</em> in print, ebook and audiobook at: <a href="https://amzn.to/2FxJG2V" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/2Ho61k3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://apple.co/2FuWWJN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/2IiCDx1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bit.ly/2p8u4vV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>. It's also currently free with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited.</p><h2>The Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2FxJG2V" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Wicked and the Wallflower</em></a> by Sarah MacLean</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2D4RLx3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Brazen and the Beast</em></a> by Sarah MacLean</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/36enOHt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Daring and the Duke</em></a> by Sarah MacLean</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3AfG1YW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Day of the Duchess</em></a> by Sarah MacLean</li></ul><br/><h2>The Notes</h2><p>Wicked and the Wallflower was so early in the life of the podcast that we didn’t do a deep dive, so here you go! You can follow up by listening to deep dives of <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/7/20/175-this-isnt-a-podcast-this-is-a-brazen-and-the-beast-hype-episode" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Brazen and the Beast</em></a> and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/6/30/s0243-daring-and-the-duke" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Daring and the Duke</em></a><em>, </em>both available wherever you get your books, and free with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited.</p><p>Last week, Sarah and Jen were at Steamy Lit Con in Anaheim. There was a terrific panel on the 30th anniversary of the publication of <a href="https://amzn.to/3LRvOVg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Beverly Jenkins's <em>Night Song</em></a>. Artist Shannon Donahue made <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/C-MBaaovIyj/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a very cool sketch of the panel</a>, which along with Beverly Jenkins included Jeanne Lin, Adriana Herrera, Diana Quincy, and Alyssa Cole.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>Some of the influences on Wicked and the Wallflower include the fairy tale of <a href="https://www.grimmstories.com/en/grimm_fairy-tales/rumpelstiltskin" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rumpelstiltskin</a>, <a href="https://youtu.be/EYknRQ8LxN8?si=H_3mX4UY7Z7K13-U&amp;t=110" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tommy Shelby</a> from <em>Peaky Blinders</em>, the <a href="https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/perfect-security/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>99% Invisible</em> podcast about Perfect Security</a>, the <a href="https://youtu.be/07YEzJnkTBY?si=KdsAITuHrsgGPn-d" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Disney movie <em>Frozen</em></a>, and Gavin Weightman's <a href="https://amzn.to/3AekEax" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Frozen Water Trade</em></a>.&nbsp;</p><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Kayla Grosse</strong>, author of <em>Silver Foxed</em>, available in print, ebook, and <a href="https://amzn.to/3LTjmV1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">audiobook</a>, or <a href="https://amzn.to/3WSiE0l" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>. </li><li><strong>1001 Dark Nights</strong>, publishers of Lexi Blake's <em>The Bodyguard and the Bombshell</em>, available in print, ebook, and audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/3YwGekv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li><li><strong>Leslie Hachtel</strong>, author of <em>Come Back to Me</em>, available in print, ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/4dzHEPs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>. </li><li><strong>Serena Akeroyd</strong>, author of <em>Broken</em>, available in print, ebook, or <a href="https://authorofSilverFoxed,availableinprint,ebook,andaudiobook,orwithyourmonthlysubscriptiontoKindleUnlimited." rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>. </li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/8/6/s0648-wicked-and-the-wallflower </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's coming up on the end of Season 6, and that means we're talking about one of Sarah's books! We're finishing up (or beginning?) the Bareknuckle Bastards series today with a deep dive of Sarah's Wicked and the Wallflower, the first in her Bareknuckle Bastards series--part Rumplestiltskin retelling, part Peaky Blinders fic, all justifiable face punching and ode to the darkness. This is the series she loves the best, and Jen just might agree. </p><p>You can get <em>Wicked and the Wallflower</em> in print, ebook and audiobook at: <a href="https://amzn.to/2FxJG2V" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/2Ho61k3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://apple.co/2FuWWJN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/2IiCDx1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bit.ly/2p8u4vV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>. It's also currently free with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited.</p><h2>The Books</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2FxJG2V" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Wicked and the Wallflower</em></a> by Sarah MacLean</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2D4RLx3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Brazen and the Beast</em></a> by Sarah MacLean</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/36enOHt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Daring and the Duke</em></a> by Sarah MacLean</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3AfG1YW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Day of the Duchess</em></a> by Sarah MacLean</li></ul><br/><h2>The Notes</h2><p>Wicked and the Wallflower was so early in the life of the podcast that we didn’t do a deep dive, so here you go! You can follow up by listening to deep dives of <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/7/20/175-this-isnt-a-podcast-this-is-a-brazen-and-the-beast-hype-episode" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Brazen and the Beast</em></a> and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/6/30/s0243-daring-and-the-duke" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Daring and the Duke</em></a><em>, </em>both available wherever you get your books, and free with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited.</p><p>Last week, Sarah and Jen were at Steamy Lit Con in Anaheim. There was a terrific panel on the 30th anniversary of the publication of <a href="https://amzn.to/3LRvOVg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Beverly Jenkins's <em>Night Song</em></a>. Artist Shannon Donahue made <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/C-MBaaovIyj/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a very cool sketch of the panel</a>, which along with Beverly Jenkins included Jeanne Lin, Adriana Herrera, Diana Quincy, and Alyssa Cole.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>Some of the influences on Wicked and the Wallflower include the fairy tale of <a href="https://www.grimmstories.com/en/grimm_fairy-tales/rumpelstiltskin" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rumpelstiltskin</a>, <a href="https://youtu.be/EYknRQ8LxN8?si=H_3mX4UY7Z7K13-U&amp;t=110" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tommy Shelby</a> from <em>Peaky Blinders</em>, the <a href="https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/perfect-security/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>99% Invisible</em> podcast about Perfect Security</a>, the <a href="https://youtu.be/07YEzJnkTBY?si=KdsAITuHrsgGPn-d" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Disney movie <em>Frozen</em></a>, and Gavin Weightman's <a href="https://amzn.to/3AekEax" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Frozen Water Trade</em></a>.&nbsp;</p><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Kayla Grosse</strong>, author of <em>Silver Foxed</em>, available in print, ebook, and <a href="https://amzn.to/3LTjmV1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">audiobook</a>, or <a href="https://amzn.to/3WSiE0l" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>. </li><li><strong>1001 Dark Nights</strong>, publishers of Lexi Blake's <em>The Bodyguard and the Bombshell</em>, available in print, ebook, and audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/3YwGekv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li><li><strong>Leslie Hachtel</strong>, author of <em>Come Back to Me</em>, available in print, ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/4dzHEPs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>. </li><li><strong>Serena Akeroyd</strong>, author of <em>Broken</em>, available in print, ebook, or <a href="https://authorofSilverFoxed,availableinprint,ebook,andaudiobook,orwithyourmonthlysubscriptiontoKindleUnlimited." rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>. </li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/8/6/s0648-wicked-and-the-wallflower </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/8/6/s0648-wicked-and-the-wallflower]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">dbd0e0a8-bfa1-48cd-8d10-19f8ea8301e6</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2024 00:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/da96794b-8346-4548-88bb-7190fee5ec66/fated-mates-wicked-and-the-wallflower.mp3" length="156543644" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>02:40:36</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>48</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>48</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-da96794b-8346-4548-88bb-7190fee5ec66.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S06.47: Romance Novels with Paris 2024 Olympics Vibes</title><itunes:title>Romance Novels with Paris 2024 Olympics Vibes</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We're back this week living Olympic vibes and recommending books with big Olympic vibes! Whether you're drawn to the sports of it all or the France of it all or you just really love Flavor Flav stanning women's water polo, or you were very drawn to the wild, exciting, perplexing opening ceremony and just want to read a romance with beheading, we've got you covered.</p><p>We're coming up on the end of Season 6 (what?! how!?), which means a deep dive of one of Sarah's books, even though she doesn't have a new one this year! We're talking Wicked &amp; the Wallflower next week, the first of her Bareknuckle Bastards series. Get it at: <a href="https://amzn.to/2FxJG2V" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/2Ho61k3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://apple.co/2FuWWJN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/2IiCDx1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bit.ly/2p8u4vV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</p><h2><strong>Books Mentioned This Episode</strong></h2><p><a href="https://amzn.to/46pmYYi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Caribbean Heiress in Paris</a> by Adriana Herrera</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/4c4WyMo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love Me in the Dark</a> by Mia Asher</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3Sv82Sv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kayla in Paris</a> by Theodora Taylor</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3WhZsaY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Broken French</a> by Tasha Boyd</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3WIdST5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lord of Scoundrels</a> by Loretta Chase</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3Ac3D0s" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sweet Filthy Boy</a> by Christina Lauren</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3WHzuPn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Brightest Star in Paris</a> by Diana Biller</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3St5nsO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">We’ll Never Have Paris</a> by Adriana Anders</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/4dqvQiF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Duchess by Night</a> by Eloisa James</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3WIegkv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Bride Unveiled</a> by Jillian Hunter</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3WJi4SL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nine Rules to Break When Romancing a Rake</a> by Sarah MacLean</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3Yly7an" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Let the Games Begin </a>by Rufaro Faith Mazarura</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3YpJm1F" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nothing But Trouble</a> by P. Dangelico</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/4doghrw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stroked</a> by Meghan Quinn</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/4cYDnFx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Just This Once</a> by Rosalind James</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3A1dbeO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heart Breaker</a> by Elle Kennedy</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/4de9Ur2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heart and Hand</a> by Rebel Carter</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/4fsnokP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Take Me</a> by Bella Andre</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3A1dlmq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shadow’s Claim</a> by Kresley Cole</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3ymSEkn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Too Hot to Handle</a> by Elizabeth Lowell</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3SsnVt0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Remember Summer</a> by Elizabeth Lowell</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/46HlTeF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pardon My Frenchie</a> by Farrah Rochon</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><p>It’s the 2024 Summer Olympics in Paris, and we’re having a ball. <a href="https://youtu.be/wa7HpWw7DEk?si=VTDXZ8Dr6HwcGYPa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Beyonce introduced the USA Olympic Team</a>, and Flavor Flav’s <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/of-interest/2024/07/29/flavor-flav-water-polo-maggie-steffens-olympics/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">support of the women’s water polo team</a>, and <a href="https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/29/entertainment/snoop-dogg-olympics-rebranding/index.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Snoop Dogg love for the games</a> have made them America's elder statesmen of the Olympics. Watch this 2020 clip of <a href="https://youtu.be/uK5AIJQ2tlA?si=7mDHF0adzDrYjQb_" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Snoop and Kevin Hart watching Equestrian.</a>&nbsp;</p><p>The Opening Ceremonies were wild, and you can also watch a documentary about the making of it called <a href="https://olympics.com/en/original-series/episode/la-grande-seine-trailer" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Le Grand Siene</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>Olympics lawyers have always been hypervigilant about removing copyrighted videos, but this year after complaints about a scene that appeared to show drag queens arranged like The Last Supper, <a href="https://heavy.com/entertainment/dmca-takedown-olympics-ceremony/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the entire opening ceremony was removed from YouTube</a>, leading people to believe the IOC was hiding its censoring behind copyright protections.&nbsp;</p><p>Americans Lee Kiefer and Gerek Meinhardt ar<a href="https://www.latimes.com/sports/olympics/story/2024-07-27/fencing-couple-lee-kiefer-gerek-meinhardt-paris" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">e Fencing’s first couple</a>.</p><p>The first<a href="https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/caeleb-dressel-says-son-seeing-him-win-olympic-gold-is-everything/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> “baby with headphones” of Paris</a> is the son of swimmer Caleb Dressel.&nbsp;</p><p>They’re surfing <strong>Teahupo’o, a massive deadly wave in </strong>Tahiti with <a href="https://www.surfer.com/news/colin-jost-olympic-surfing-teahupoo-tahiti" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Saturday Night Live’s Colin Jost </a>as the on site reporter. One of Jen’s favorite books about surfing is <a href="https://amzn.to/3WFttCS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Wave by Susan Casey.</a> </p><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Rose Prendeville</strong>, author of <em>Maggie &amp; the Pirate's Son</em>, available in print, ebook, and audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/3WtLse7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/maggie-and-the-pirates-son-rose-prendeville/1144440768" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/ww/en/ebook/maggie-and-the-pirate-s-son" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/maggie-and-the-pirates-son/id6473678024?l=es-MX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/maggie-and-the-pirate-s-son-rose-prendeville/21106886?ean=9781955643122" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you buy books</a></li><li><strong>Pippa Grant</strong>, author of <em>The Secret Hook-up</em>, available in print, ebook, and audiobook, and Kindle Unlimited from <a href="https://amzn.to/3LLEVqw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li><li><strong>Elliot Fletcher</strong>, author of<em> Whisky Business</em>, available in print, ebook, and audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/3LISVRI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/whisky-business-elliot-fletcher/1143447358?ean=9780063386709" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/gb/en/ebook/whisky-business-the-macabe-brothers-book-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/gb/book/whisky-business/id6468648955" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/whisky-business-elliot-fletcher/20643279" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you buy books</a></li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We're back this week living Olympic vibes and recommending books with big Olympic vibes! Whether you're drawn to the sports of it all or the France of it all or you just really love Flavor Flav stanning women's water polo, or you were very drawn to the wild, exciting, perplexing opening ceremony and just want to read a romance with beheading, we've got you covered.</p><p>We're coming up on the end of Season 6 (what?! how!?), which means a deep dive of one of Sarah's books, even though she doesn't have a new one this year! We're talking Wicked &amp; the Wallflower next week, the first of her Bareknuckle Bastards series. Get it at: <a href="https://amzn.to/2FxJG2V" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/2Ho61k3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://apple.co/2FuWWJN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/2IiCDx1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bit.ly/2p8u4vV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</p><h2><strong>Books Mentioned This Episode</strong></h2><p><a href="https://amzn.to/46pmYYi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Caribbean Heiress in Paris</a> by Adriana Herrera</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/4c4WyMo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love Me in the Dark</a> by Mia Asher</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3Sv82Sv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kayla in Paris</a> by Theodora Taylor</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3WhZsaY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Broken French</a> by Tasha Boyd</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3WIdST5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lord of Scoundrels</a> by Loretta Chase</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3Ac3D0s" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sweet Filthy Boy</a> by Christina Lauren</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3WHzuPn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Brightest Star in Paris</a> by Diana Biller</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3St5nsO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">We’ll Never Have Paris</a> by Adriana Anders</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/4dqvQiF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Duchess by Night</a> by Eloisa James</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3WIegkv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Bride Unveiled</a> by Jillian Hunter</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3WJi4SL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nine Rules to Break When Romancing a Rake</a> by Sarah MacLean</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3Yly7an" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Let the Games Begin </a>by Rufaro Faith Mazarura</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3YpJm1F" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nothing But Trouble</a> by P. Dangelico</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/4doghrw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stroked</a> by Meghan Quinn</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/4cYDnFx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Just This Once</a> by Rosalind James</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3A1dbeO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heart Breaker</a> by Elle Kennedy</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/4de9Ur2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heart and Hand</a> by Rebel Carter</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/4fsnokP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Take Me</a> by Bella Andre</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3A1dlmq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shadow’s Claim</a> by Kresley Cole</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3ymSEkn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Too Hot to Handle</a> by Elizabeth Lowell</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3SsnVt0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Remember Summer</a> by Elizabeth Lowell</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/46HlTeF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pardon My Frenchie</a> by Farrah Rochon</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><p>It’s the 2024 Summer Olympics in Paris, and we’re having a ball. <a href="https://youtu.be/wa7HpWw7DEk?si=VTDXZ8Dr6HwcGYPa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Beyonce introduced the USA Olympic Team</a>, and Flavor Flav’s <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/of-interest/2024/07/29/flavor-flav-water-polo-maggie-steffens-olympics/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">support of the women’s water polo team</a>, and <a href="https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/29/entertainment/snoop-dogg-olympics-rebranding/index.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Snoop Dogg love for the games</a> have made them America's elder statesmen of the Olympics. Watch this 2020 clip of <a href="https://youtu.be/uK5AIJQ2tlA?si=7mDHF0adzDrYjQb_" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Snoop and Kevin Hart watching Equestrian.</a>&nbsp;</p><p>The Opening Ceremonies were wild, and you can also watch a documentary about the making of it called <a href="https://olympics.com/en/original-series/episode/la-grande-seine-trailer" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Le Grand Siene</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>Olympics lawyers have always been hypervigilant about removing copyrighted videos, but this year after complaints about a scene that appeared to show drag queens arranged like The Last Supper, <a href="https://heavy.com/entertainment/dmca-takedown-olympics-ceremony/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the entire opening ceremony was removed from YouTube</a>, leading people to believe the IOC was hiding its censoring behind copyright protections.&nbsp;</p><p>Americans Lee Kiefer and Gerek Meinhardt ar<a href="https://www.latimes.com/sports/olympics/story/2024-07-27/fencing-couple-lee-kiefer-gerek-meinhardt-paris" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">e Fencing’s first couple</a>.</p><p>The first<a href="https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/caeleb-dressel-says-son-seeing-him-win-olympic-gold-is-everything/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> “baby with headphones” of Paris</a> is the son of swimmer Caleb Dressel.&nbsp;</p><p>They’re surfing <strong>Teahupo’o, a massive deadly wave in </strong>Tahiti with <a href="https://www.surfer.com/news/colin-jost-olympic-surfing-teahupoo-tahiti" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Saturday Night Live’s Colin Jost </a>as the on site reporter. One of Jen’s favorite books about surfing is <a href="https://amzn.to/3WFttCS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Wave by Susan Casey.</a> </p><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Rose Prendeville</strong>, author of <em>Maggie &amp; the Pirate's Son</em>, available in print, ebook, and audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/3WtLse7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/maggie-and-the-pirates-son-rose-prendeville/1144440768" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/ww/en/ebook/maggie-and-the-pirate-s-son" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/maggie-and-the-pirates-son/id6473678024?l=es-MX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/maggie-and-the-pirate-s-son-rose-prendeville/21106886?ean=9781955643122" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you buy books</a></li><li><strong>Pippa Grant</strong>, author of <em>The Secret Hook-up</em>, available in print, ebook, and audiobook, and Kindle Unlimited from <a href="https://amzn.to/3LLEVqw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li><li><strong>Elliot Fletcher</strong>, author of<em> Whisky Business</em>, available in print, ebook, and audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/3LISVRI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/whisky-business-elliot-fletcher/1143447358?ean=9780063386709" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/gb/en/ebook/whisky-business-the-macabe-brothers-book-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/gb/book/whisky-business/id6468648955" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/whisky-business-elliot-fletcher/20643279" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you buy books</a></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/7/29/s0647-books-with-paris-2024-olympics-vibes]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5f26bdf7-ccc8-4568-90c6-9ff905be3742</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 29 Jul 2024 19:54:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/a5ed1ede-135d-4671-a782-3bb1f9d93d56/fated-mates-olympics-vibes.mp3" length="73317988" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:09:34</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>47</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>47</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-a5ed1ede-135d-4671-a782-3bb1f9d93d56.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S06.46: Romance and The New York Times Best 100 Books List</title><itunes:title>Romance and The New York Times Best 100 Books List</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This week, we are doing something a little different, talking about the New York Times's Best 100 Books of the 21st Century, a list that Sarah was asked to contribute a ballot for. We talk about how Sarah made her list, what she put on it, and why...and why we think there are no romance novels on the final top 100 list. </p><p>Don't fret, though -- on the <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Discord</a>, FM listeners have started collecting nominations for the 100 Best Modern Romance Novels (since the publication of The Flame and the Flower)! Join the group to submit your own nominations and vote on the final list throughout August.</p><p>We're coming up on the end of Season 6 (what?! how!?), which means a deep dive of one of Sarah's books, even though she doesn't have a new one this year! We're talking Wicked &amp; the Wallflower, the first of her Bareknuckle Bastards series. Get it at: <a href="https://amzn.to/2FxJG2V" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/2Ho61k3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://apple.co/2FuWWJN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/2IiCDx1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bit.ly/2p8u4vV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</p><h2>The Books</h2><p>We talk about <em>lots</em> of books today, but most of them aren't romance novels. The nine romances on Sarah's list for the New York Times are: </p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/4d9cqOU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kate Clayborn's <em>Georgie, All Along</em></a></p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/4daWjk0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kresley Cole's <em>Dark Needs at Night's Edge</em></a></p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3Wy1PaZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jennifer Crusie's <em>Bet Me</em></a></p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/4bVparB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Uzma Jalaluddin's <em>Hana Khan Carries On</em></a></p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3LzzNpp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Beverly Jenkins's <em>Forbidden</em></a></p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3YfYQFd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lisa Kleypas's <em>Again the Magic</em></a></p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/4bZ42Rl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Angelina M. Lopez's <em>After Hours on Milagro Street</em></a></p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3zWDqmH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sherry Thomas's <em>Ravishing the Heiress</em></a></p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/4fe8MFr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Milla Vane's <em>A Heart of Blood and Ashes</em></a></p><h2>Show Notes</h2><p>In between the recording of this episode, about two hours after <a href="https://www.vox.com/politics/361999/joe-biden-drops-out-kamala-harris-2024-trump-democracy-hope" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Biden dropped out of the race</a>, and the time we released it on Wednesday: Kamala Harris has locked up the delegates for the nomination and raised 100 million dollars from small donors, a majority of whom are first time donors. </p><p><a href="https://fatedmates.net/fatedstates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Click here to express your interest</a> in joining us for Fated States phonebanking. If you’re an author who would like to donate books to phonebankers, please <a href="https://forms.gle/BqS6DKcW5YHRALmd8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fill out this form</a>.</p><p>We’re mad at <a href="https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/story/whoopsie-aaron-sorkin-doesnt-want-democrats-to-nominate-mitt-romney-after-all" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Aaron Sorkin for writing a boneheaded oped in the New York Times, which was truly the dumbest thing, and then retracting it later.</a></p><p>The New York Times <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/books/best-books-21st-century.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Best 100 Books of the 21st Century</a> list is interesting, not only for the list itself but for how it was made. If you don’t want to go to the New York Times site, You can see <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/203571.NYT_The_100_Best_Books_of_the_21st_Century" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the entire list on Goodreads</a> or <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/C9crZmoAKO5/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>. <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/books/authors-top-books-21st-century.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">You can see Sarah’s ballot</a> and those of other authors and literary luminaries, as well, and they also compiled <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/C9kYeyXA3zv/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a reader’s list</a>. You can also listen to <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/12/books/review/talking-about-the-centurys-best-books.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the New York Times Books Podcast</a> for discussion of the process and the final product!</p><p><a href="https://shereads.com/what-sarah-jessica-parker-reads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah Jessica Parker is a big reader</a> who <a href="https://www.amny.com/entertainment/sarah-jessica-parker-libraries-1-31323182/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">loves libraries</a>. </p><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/12/books/who-is-elena-ferrante.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">We still don’t actually know who Elena Ferrante is</a>, so it's not officially <em>not</em> Scott Turrow's sister. </p><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Danica Nava</strong>, author of <em>The Truth According to Ember</em>, available in print, ebook, or audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/3WyNmeN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-truth-according-to-ember-danica-nava/1144331852" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-truth-according-to-ember" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-truth-according-to-ember/id6471461167" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-truth-according-to-ember-danica-nava/20844724?ean=9780593642603" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you buy your books</a>,</li><li><strong>Lumi Labs</strong>, creators of Lumi Gummies. Go to <a href="https://lumigummies.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lumigummies.com</a> and use code FATED50 for free gummies with a limited time $50 off coupon, or use code FATEDMATES for 30% Off, and</li><li><strong>Stephanie Rose</strong>, author of <em>Second Time’s the Charm, </em>available in print or ebook, or with <a href="https://amzn.to/4a5qgA8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a></li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/7/23/s0646-the-perils-amp-promise-of-the-new-york-times-best-100-books-list </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, we are doing something a little different, talking about the New York Times's Best 100 Books of the 21st Century, a list that Sarah was asked to contribute a ballot for. We talk about how Sarah made her list, what she put on it, and why...and why we think there are no romance novels on the final top 100 list. </p><p>Don't fret, though -- on the <a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Discord</a>, FM listeners have started collecting nominations for the 100 Best Modern Romance Novels (since the publication of The Flame and the Flower)! Join the group to submit your own nominations and vote on the final list throughout August.</p><p>We're coming up on the end of Season 6 (what?! how!?), which means a deep dive of one of Sarah's books, even though she doesn't have a new one this year! We're talking Wicked &amp; the Wallflower, the first of her Bareknuckle Bastards series. Get it at: <a href="https://amzn.to/2FxJG2V" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/2Ho61k3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://apple.co/2FuWWJN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/2IiCDx1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bit.ly/2p8u4vV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</p><h2>The Books</h2><p>We talk about <em>lots</em> of books today, but most of them aren't romance novels. The nine romances on Sarah's list for the New York Times are: </p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/4d9cqOU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kate Clayborn's <em>Georgie, All Along</em></a></p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/4daWjk0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kresley Cole's <em>Dark Needs at Night's Edge</em></a></p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3Wy1PaZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jennifer Crusie's <em>Bet Me</em></a></p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/4bVparB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Uzma Jalaluddin's <em>Hana Khan Carries On</em></a></p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3LzzNpp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Beverly Jenkins's <em>Forbidden</em></a></p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3YfYQFd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lisa Kleypas's <em>Again the Magic</em></a></p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/4bZ42Rl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Angelina M. Lopez's <em>After Hours on Milagro Street</em></a></p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3zWDqmH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sherry Thomas's <em>Ravishing the Heiress</em></a></p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/4fe8MFr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Milla Vane's <em>A Heart of Blood and Ashes</em></a></p><h2>Show Notes</h2><p>In between the recording of this episode, about two hours after <a href="https://www.vox.com/politics/361999/joe-biden-drops-out-kamala-harris-2024-trump-democracy-hope" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Biden dropped out of the race</a>, and the time we released it on Wednesday: Kamala Harris has locked up the delegates for the nomination and raised 100 million dollars from small donors, a majority of whom are first time donors. </p><p><a href="https://fatedmates.net/fatedstates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Click here to express your interest</a> in joining us for Fated States phonebanking. If you’re an author who would like to donate books to phonebankers, please <a href="https://forms.gle/BqS6DKcW5YHRALmd8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fill out this form</a>.</p><p>We’re mad at <a href="https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/story/whoopsie-aaron-sorkin-doesnt-want-democrats-to-nominate-mitt-romney-after-all" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Aaron Sorkin for writing a boneheaded oped in the New York Times, which was truly the dumbest thing, and then retracting it later.</a></p><p>The New York Times <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/books/best-books-21st-century.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Best 100 Books of the 21st Century</a> list is interesting, not only for the list itself but for how it was made. If you don’t want to go to the New York Times site, You can see <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/203571.NYT_The_100_Best_Books_of_the_21st_Century" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the entire list on Goodreads</a> or <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/C9crZmoAKO5/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>. <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/books/authors-top-books-21st-century.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">You can see Sarah’s ballot</a> and those of other authors and literary luminaries, as well, and they also compiled <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/C9kYeyXA3zv/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a reader’s list</a>. You can also listen to <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/12/books/review/talking-about-the-centurys-best-books.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the New York Times Books Podcast</a> for discussion of the process and the final product!</p><p><a href="https://shereads.com/what-sarah-jessica-parker-reads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah Jessica Parker is a big reader</a> who <a href="https://www.amny.com/entertainment/sarah-jessica-parker-libraries-1-31323182/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">loves libraries</a>. </p><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/12/books/who-is-elena-ferrante.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">We still don’t actually know who Elena Ferrante is</a>, so it's not officially <em>not</em> Scott Turrow's sister. </p><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li><strong>Danica Nava</strong>, author of <em>The Truth According to Ember</em>, available in print, ebook, or audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/3WyNmeN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-truth-according-to-ember-danica-nava/1144331852" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-truth-according-to-ember" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-truth-according-to-ember/id6471461167" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-truth-according-to-ember-danica-nava/20844724?ean=9780593642603" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you buy your books</a>,</li><li><strong>Lumi Labs</strong>, creators of Lumi Gummies. Go to <a href="https://lumigummies.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lumigummies.com</a> and use code FATED50 for free gummies with a limited time $50 off coupon, or use code FATEDMATES for 30% Off, and</li><li><strong>Stephanie Rose</strong>, author of <em>Second Time’s the Charm, </em>available in print or ebook, or with <a href="https://amzn.to/4a5qgA8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a></li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/7/23/s0646-the-perils-amp-promise-of-the-new-york-times-best-100-books-list </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/7/23/s0646-the-perils-amp-promise-of-the-new-york-times-best-100-books-list]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">2b6105ab-7c7b-437a-82be-3314db555065</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 23 Jul 2024 23:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/6e40b2d3-c951-4211-b4fa-89af271c55e6/fated-mates-ny-times-list.mp3" length="103776326" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:44:47</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>46</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>46</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-6e40b2d3-c951-4211-b4fa-89af271c55e6.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S06.45: Our Favorite Episodes, Tropes we Love, and Books that Take the Finger</title><itunes:title>Our Favorite Episodes, Tropes we Love, and Books that Take the Finger</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Jen and Sarah are together at last (again), and we’re taking your questions! Listen as we revisit some of our favorite past episodes of the podcast, as we discuss our favorite books with our least favorite tropes, and recommend a bunch of books that take the finger. We’re also talking about historical romance, and why it remains an absolute bop.</p><p>We're coming up on the end of Season 6 (what?! how!?), which means a deep dive of one of Sarah's books, even though she doesn't have a new one this year! We're talking Wicked &amp; the Wallflower, the first of her Bareknuckle Bastards series. Get it at: <a href="https://amzn.to/2FxJG2V" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/2Ho61k3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://apple.co/2FuWWJN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/2IiCDx1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bit.ly/2p8u4vV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</p><p><strong>The Books</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4f9v8bh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Next Best Fling</a> by Gabby Gamez</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4d0eNUj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chef’s Kiss</a> by TJ alexander</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4cLSCSe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Unmasked by the Marquess</a> by Cat Sebastian</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4cIyKz9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Something Spectacular</a> by Alexis Hall</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3y0jcYr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Perks of Loving a Wallflower</a>&nbsp; by Erica Ridley</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46cemnB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love and Other Disasters</a> by Anita Kelly</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3zOfpyc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">An unsuitable Heir</a> by KJ Charles</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3W3uP9b" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Ghost Town East Series</a> by Amelia Shea</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3WouXkT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Island Princess Starts a Scandal</a> by Adriana Herrera</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3VZxrEM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Duchess Hunt</a> by Lorriane Heath</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3SaanCo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Morning Glory Milking Farm</a> by CM Nacosta</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4cIITvU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Just Playing House </a>by Farah Heron</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4cIz159" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Duke Gets Even</a> by Joanna Shupe</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Y76RMF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mystery Man</a> by Kristen Ashley</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4bNF0UY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Preacher Man</a> by Jessa Kane</li></ul><br/><p><strong>The Show Notes</strong></p><ul><li>Jen went to go see <a href="https://variety.com/2024/legit/reviews/illinoise-review-broadway-sufjan-stevens-1235983600/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Illinoise</a> when she was in New York, and the Fated Mates team ate at <a href="https://www.clarobk.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Claro</a> in Brooklyn.</li><li>Some of our favorite episodes of the podcast: the <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/1/31/s0324-derek-craven-day-reveals-that-were-going-through-some-things" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Derek Craven episode</a> with Kate, the first <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/1/27/s0221-old-school-category-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">category romance</a> interstitial, and trailblazers <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/11/13/s0411-vincent-virga-a-trailblazers-episode" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vincent Virga</a>, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/12/6/s0414-elda-minger-a-trailblazer-episode" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Elda Minger</a>, and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/4/5/s0429-nora-roberts-trailblazer" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nora Roberts</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Our walk up songs are <a href="https://youtu.be/jB-yj6VfRqk?si=5iQ1XjHFcYnDttgc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Too Funky</a> by George Michael for Sarah, and <a href="https://youtu.be/V1d4r9awjKE?si=ssPE5irK6AFD_2wX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Every Day I Write the Book</a> or <a href="https://youtu.be/Pm7j1sYD-mM?si=xE-WKK9HoOOIDKey" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Town Crier</a> by Elvis Costello.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://19thnews.org/2024/03/what-is-the-comstock-act/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Comstock Laws</a> were bad and <a href="https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2024/how-the-comstock-act-threatens-abortion-rights" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">they are still on the books, which is gonna turn out to be a bad thing.&nbsp;</a></li><li><a href="https://alexariley.com/series/ar-taboo/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alexa Riley also writes as AR Taboo</a>, for the truly dirty stuff. Check your content warnings.</li></ul><br/><p><strong>The Sponsors</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Blue Box Press</strong>, publishers of Audrey Carlan's <em>The Marriage Auction, Season 2</em>, available in print or ebook <a href="https://amzn.to/4cUVz2q" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from Amazon</a>.</li><li><strong>Lucy Score</strong>, author of <em>The Body in the Backyard: A Riley Thorn Novel</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook, <a href="https://amzn.to/3LrWYlh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from Amazon</a>.</li><li><strong>Jess K. Hardy</strong>, author of <em>Lips Like Sugar</em>, available in print or ebook <a href="https://amzn.to/4d32CGq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from Amazon</a>.</li><li><strong>Liana De la Rosa</strong>, author of <em>Isabel and the Rogue</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/3Wo1Yha" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/isabel-and-the-rogue/id6464342564" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/isabel-and-the-rogue-liana-de-la-rosa/1144032046" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/sg/en/ebook/isabel-and-the-rogue-2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/isabel-and-the-rogue-liana-de-la-rosa/20594035?ean=9780593440902" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/7/16/s0645-ama-jen-and-sarah-are-taking-your-questions </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jen and Sarah are together at last (again), and we’re taking your questions! Listen as we revisit some of our favorite past episodes of the podcast, as we discuss our favorite books with our least favorite tropes, and recommend a bunch of books that take the finger. We’re also talking about historical romance, and why it remains an absolute bop.</p><p>We're coming up on the end of Season 6 (what?! how!?), which means a deep dive of one of Sarah's books, even though she doesn't have a new one this year! We're talking Wicked &amp; the Wallflower, the first of her Bareknuckle Bastards series. Get it at: <a href="https://amzn.to/2FxJG2V" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/2Ho61k3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://apple.co/2FuWWJN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/2IiCDx1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bit.ly/2p8u4vV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</p><p><strong>The Books</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4f9v8bh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Next Best Fling</a> by Gabby Gamez</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4d0eNUj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chef’s Kiss</a> by TJ alexander</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4cLSCSe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Unmasked by the Marquess</a> by Cat Sebastian</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4cIyKz9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Something Spectacular</a> by Alexis Hall</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3y0jcYr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Perks of Loving a Wallflower</a>&nbsp; by Erica Ridley</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46cemnB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love and Other Disasters</a> by Anita Kelly</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3zOfpyc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">An unsuitable Heir</a> by KJ Charles</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3W3uP9b" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Ghost Town East Series</a> by Amelia Shea</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3WouXkT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Island Princess Starts a Scandal</a> by Adriana Herrera</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3VZxrEM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Duchess Hunt</a> by Lorriane Heath</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3SaanCo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Morning Glory Milking Farm</a> by CM Nacosta</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4cIITvU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Just Playing House </a>by Farah Heron</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4cIz159" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Duke Gets Even</a> by Joanna Shupe</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Y76RMF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mystery Man</a> by Kristen Ashley</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4bNF0UY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Preacher Man</a> by Jessa Kane</li></ul><br/><p><strong>The Show Notes</strong></p><ul><li>Jen went to go see <a href="https://variety.com/2024/legit/reviews/illinoise-review-broadway-sufjan-stevens-1235983600/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Illinoise</a> when she was in New York, and the Fated Mates team ate at <a href="https://www.clarobk.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Claro</a> in Brooklyn.</li><li>Some of our favorite episodes of the podcast: the <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/1/31/s0324-derek-craven-day-reveals-that-were-going-through-some-things" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Derek Craven episode</a> with Kate, the first <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/1/27/s0221-old-school-category-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">category romance</a> interstitial, and trailblazers <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/11/13/s0411-vincent-virga-a-trailblazers-episode" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vincent Virga</a>, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/12/6/s0414-elda-minger-a-trailblazer-episode" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Elda Minger</a>, and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/4/5/s0429-nora-roberts-trailblazer" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nora Roberts</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Our walk up songs are <a href="https://youtu.be/jB-yj6VfRqk?si=5iQ1XjHFcYnDttgc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Too Funky</a> by George Michael for Sarah, and <a href="https://youtu.be/V1d4r9awjKE?si=ssPE5irK6AFD_2wX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Every Day I Write the Book</a> or <a href="https://youtu.be/Pm7j1sYD-mM?si=xE-WKK9HoOOIDKey" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Town Crier</a> by Elvis Costello.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://19thnews.org/2024/03/what-is-the-comstock-act/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Comstock Laws</a> were bad and <a href="https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2024/how-the-comstock-act-threatens-abortion-rights" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">they are still on the books, which is gonna turn out to be a bad thing.&nbsp;</a></li><li><a href="https://alexariley.com/series/ar-taboo/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alexa Riley also writes as AR Taboo</a>, for the truly dirty stuff. Check your content warnings.</li></ul><br/><p><strong>The Sponsors</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Blue Box Press</strong>, publishers of Audrey Carlan's <em>The Marriage Auction, Season 2</em>, available in print or ebook <a href="https://amzn.to/4cUVz2q" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from Amazon</a>.</li><li><strong>Lucy Score</strong>, author of <em>The Body in the Backyard: A Riley Thorn Novel</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook, <a href="https://amzn.to/3LrWYlh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from Amazon</a>.</li><li><strong>Jess K. Hardy</strong>, author of <em>Lips Like Sugar</em>, available in print or ebook <a href="https://amzn.to/4d32CGq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from Amazon</a>.</li><li><strong>Liana De la Rosa</strong>, author of <em>Isabel and the Rogue</em>, available in print, ebook or audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/3Wo1Yha" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/isabel-and-the-rogue/id6464342564" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/isabel-and-the-rogue-liana-de-la-rosa/1144032046" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/sg/en/ebook/isabel-and-the-rogue-2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/isabel-and-the-rogue-liana-de-la-rosa/20594035?ean=9780593440902" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/7/16/s0645-ama-jen-and-sarah-are-taking-your-questions </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/7/16/s0645-ama-jen-and-sarah-are-taking-your-questions]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">a4f8b2c3-055b-4f7e-baa6-ca360931a710</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 16 Jul 2024 19:37:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/afe160f7-fe86-42be-aa8a-1da2b925eca6/fated-mates-AMA-2024.mp3" length="102731032" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:42:40</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>45</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>45</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-afe160f7-fe86-42be-aa8a-1da2b925eca6.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S06:44 Summer Romance Bingo Recommendations 2024</title><itunes:title>Summer Romance Bingo Recommendations 2024</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>For the last few years, The Ripped Bodice bookstore has published a Summer Romance Bingo Card and this year, we're helping you win! With absolutely no prep, we're recommending books for every bit of the game, from Lost Treasure to Time Travel to the Olympics. Head to <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/C7uL-m_Sf5l/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Ripped Bodice's instagram feed</a> to see the bingo card and get reading! </p><h2>Books Mentioned </h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3WfGzXr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Only and Forever</a> by Chloe Liese</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4eTJjRv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Novel Love Story</a> by Ashley Poston&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3VWEVbN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">One Last Shot</a> by Betty Cayouette</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4cyX0nc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Remember Summer </a>by Elizabeth Lowell</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/465zgVC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fire on the Ice</a> by Tamsen Parker</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/45Yjgo6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Seduction on the Slopes</a> by Tamsen Parker</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3VPwK0U" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">From Lukov with Love</a> by Mariana Zapata</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Lk13YA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Amorous Education of Celia Seaton</a> by Miranda Neville</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4cB1sSs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hottie Scotty and Mr. Porter</a> by R. Cooper&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3xGLNlF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Breath of Magic</a> by Theresa Medieros</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4cVukoe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Outlander</a> by Diana Gabaldon</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3W0PpqH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Crazy Stupid Bromance</a> by Lyssa Kay Adams</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3xMU3Az" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shaken and Stirred</a> by Kathleeen O’Reilly</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3LogLlr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Double Down</a> by Katie Porter</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3zx8tFw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Copper</a> by Lily Atlas</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4bEUFWJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Santa’s Baby</a> by Chloe Maine</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4cX4v7x" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lighthouse on Moonglow Bay</a> by Lori Wilde</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3RWFzF5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dragged to the Wedding</a> by Andrew Grey</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4cXQczD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Looking for a Sign</a> by Susie Dumond</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Y3EVt0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Star Crossed Seduction</a> by Jenny Browna</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3zEubYg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Touch Magical</a> by Sonia Hartl</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4bBlevN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Reaper’s Property</a> by Joanna Wylde</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3W04sAY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Waylon</a> by Theodora Taylor</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4eXpOrm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Do Your Worst</a> by Rosie Danan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3LmGWcc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">This Scot of Mine</a> by Sophie Jordan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3xQ854i" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Summertime Punchline</a> by Betty Corrello</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3We30w5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wild Ride </a>by Jennifer Crusie and Bob Mayer</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Yfr6Ir" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Something Wilder</a> by Christina Lauren</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3xFH4Rf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Romancing Ms. Stone</a> by M.C. Vaughan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/45Wozoc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Raiders of the Lost Heart </a>by Jo Segura</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/460vMDx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Red</a> by Tiffany Reisz</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3xY4r8s" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Faking It</a> by Jennifer Crusie</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4bSoqDL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dragon Bound</a> by Thea Harrison</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3xRvlyU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Fire in the Sky</a> by Sophie Jordan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3WiA8Tz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nine Rules to Break When Romancing a Rake</a> by Sarah MacLean</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/45WJ7Ng" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Way Down Deep</a> by Charlotte Stein &amp; Cara McKenna</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4cOYVUo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Written on His Skin</a> by Simone Stark</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4by2H3v" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lovers in the Afternoon</a> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3xUfpfh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Neighbor Favor</a> by Kristina Forest</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3zDJd0f" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Gift</a> by Julie Garwood</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3zxpI9z" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">After Hours on Milagro Street</a> by Angelia M. Lopez</li></ul><br/><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>This week, we’re making suggestions in case you’re trying to complete <a href="https://www.therippedbodicela.com/sites/therippedbodicela.com/files/1_10.png" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Ripped Bodice’s 8th annual summer reading bingo game.</a> Some of the squares we’ve had full episodes on, so check it out for ideas: <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/3/13/s0526-dueling-interstitial-with-chels-duels-are-never-having-to-say-youre-sorry" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Duels with special guest Chels</a>,&nbsp; <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/4/25/s0532-runaway-brides-in-romance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Runaway Brides</a>, and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/8/15/0548-grumpysunshine-romance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Grumpy/Sunshine</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/basic-ref/glossary/control-rod.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Control rods</a> are what cools down a Nuclear reactor, or in the case of Chernobyl what causes one to melt down <a href="https://www.vice.com/en/article/597k9x/why-the-chernobyl-nuclear-reactor-exploded" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">if they are all moved simultaneously.</a>&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/3ThrlTaPWO8?si=E5sL-iziPdpE04MY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“You wanted to tussle, we tussled,”</a> is a line from Out of Sight. <a href="https://www.getyarn.io/yarn-clip/1ff0bda7-4b60-4eba-a862-22f989559eb8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“The pressure of a name’”</a> is a line from Pretty Woman.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://heyimreading.com/2024/01/18/paperback-vs-mass-market-paperback/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A quick guide to book trim sizes</a>: hardback, trade paperback, and mass market.&nbsp;</li><li>There was a great article in the New York Times this week about <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/07/books/romance-bookstores.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the explosion of romance-only bookstores.</a></li><li>Jen <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_person_fiction" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">doesn’t do RPF</a> and she <a href="https://youtu.be/U2W173hRfyA?si=FG4tDTJZnuHCDBML" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">doesn’t really know anything about Taylor Swift</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>You might want to enjoy Andrew McCarthy’s navel gazing in <a href="https://youtu.be/MxVNQkRM5Qw?si=VqpDbOK6zQEBinsH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the documentary Brats,</a> even if it’s just to <a href="https://www.vulture.com/article/hollywood-brat-pack-name-david-blum.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">roll your eyes.&nbsp;</a></li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li>Blue Box Press, publishers of Aurora Rose Reynolds's <em>BRODIE: An Until Her Novella</em>, available in print or ebook, <a href="https://amzn.to/3WcQUTV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from Amazon</a>.</li><li>Aethon Books, publishers of Hannah Levin's THE TREASURED ONE, available in print, ebook or audiobook, <a href="https://amzn.to/3Wc5ScW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from Amazon</a>. </li><li>Tara L. Roí, author of <em>HOPE</em>, available in print or ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/3xKV9Nd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/no/book/hope/id6465424407" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/hope-tara-l-ro/1144049192?ean=2940167107809" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/7/8/s0644-summer-romance-bingo-recommendations-2024 </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer"...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the last few years, The Ripped Bodice bookstore has published a Summer Romance Bingo Card and this year, we're helping you win! With absolutely no prep, we're recommending books for every bit of the game, from Lost Treasure to Time Travel to the Olympics. Head to <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/C7uL-m_Sf5l/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Ripped Bodice's instagram feed</a> to see the bingo card and get reading! </p><h2>Books Mentioned </h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3WfGzXr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Only and Forever</a> by Chloe Liese</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4eTJjRv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Novel Love Story</a> by Ashley Poston&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3VWEVbN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">One Last Shot</a> by Betty Cayouette</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4cyX0nc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Remember Summer </a>by Elizabeth Lowell</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/465zgVC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fire on the Ice</a> by Tamsen Parker</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/45Yjgo6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Seduction on the Slopes</a> by Tamsen Parker</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3VPwK0U" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">From Lukov with Love</a> by Mariana Zapata</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Lk13YA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Amorous Education of Celia Seaton</a> by Miranda Neville</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4cB1sSs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hottie Scotty and Mr. Porter</a> by R. Cooper&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3xGLNlF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Breath of Magic</a> by Theresa Medieros</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4cVukoe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Outlander</a> by Diana Gabaldon</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3W0PpqH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Crazy Stupid Bromance</a> by Lyssa Kay Adams</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3xMU3Az" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shaken and Stirred</a> by Kathleeen O’Reilly</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3LogLlr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Double Down</a> by Katie Porter</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3zx8tFw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Copper</a> by Lily Atlas</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4bEUFWJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Santa’s Baby</a> by Chloe Maine</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4cX4v7x" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lighthouse on Moonglow Bay</a> by Lori Wilde</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3RWFzF5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dragged to the Wedding</a> by Andrew Grey</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4cXQczD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Looking for a Sign</a> by Susie Dumond</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Y3EVt0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Star Crossed Seduction</a> by Jenny Browna</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3zEubYg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Touch Magical</a> by Sonia Hartl</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4bBlevN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Reaper’s Property</a> by Joanna Wylde</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3W04sAY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Waylon</a> by Theodora Taylor</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4eXpOrm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Do Your Worst</a> by Rosie Danan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3LmGWcc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">This Scot of Mine</a> by Sophie Jordan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3xQ854i" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Summertime Punchline</a> by Betty Corrello</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3We30w5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wild Ride </a>by Jennifer Crusie and Bob Mayer</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Yfr6Ir" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Something Wilder</a> by Christina Lauren</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3xFH4Rf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Romancing Ms. Stone</a> by M.C. Vaughan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/45Wozoc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Raiders of the Lost Heart </a>by Jo Segura</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/460vMDx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Red</a> by Tiffany Reisz</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3xY4r8s" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Faking It</a> by Jennifer Crusie</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4bSoqDL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dragon Bound</a> by Thea Harrison</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3xRvlyU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Fire in the Sky</a> by Sophie Jordan</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3WiA8Tz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nine Rules to Break When Romancing a Rake</a> by Sarah MacLean</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/45WJ7Ng" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Way Down Deep</a> by Charlotte Stein &amp; Cara McKenna</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4cOYVUo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Written on His Skin</a> by Simone Stark</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4by2H3v" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lovers in the Afternoon</a> by Lisa Kleypas</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3xUfpfh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Neighbor Favor</a> by Kristina Forest</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3zDJd0f" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Gift</a> by Julie Garwood</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3zxpI9z" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">After Hours on Milagro Street</a> by Angelia M. Lopez</li></ul><br/><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>This week, we’re making suggestions in case you’re trying to complete <a href="https://www.therippedbodicela.com/sites/therippedbodicela.com/files/1_10.png" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Ripped Bodice’s 8th annual summer reading bingo game.</a> Some of the squares we’ve had full episodes on, so check it out for ideas: <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/3/13/s0526-dueling-interstitial-with-chels-duels-are-never-having-to-say-youre-sorry" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Duels with special guest Chels</a>,&nbsp; <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/4/25/s0532-runaway-brides-in-romance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Runaway Brides</a>, and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/8/15/0548-grumpysunshine-romance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Grumpy/Sunshine</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/basic-ref/glossary/control-rod.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Control rods</a> are what cools down a Nuclear reactor, or in the case of Chernobyl what causes one to melt down <a href="https://www.vice.com/en/article/597k9x/why-the-chernobyl-nuclear-reactor-exploded" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">if they are all moved simultaneously.</a>&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/3ThrlTaPWO8?si=E5sL-iziPdpE04MY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“You wanted to tussle, we tussled,”</a> is a line from Out of Sight. <a href="https://www.getyarn.io/yarn-clip/1ff0bda7-4b60-4eba-a862-22f989559eb8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“The pressure of a name’”</a> is a line from Pretty Woman.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://heyimreading.com/2024/01/18/paperback-vs-mass-market-paperback/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A quick guide to book trim sizes</a>: hardback, trade paperback, and mass market.&nbsp;</li><li>There was a great article in the New York Times this week about <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/07/books/romance-bookstores.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the explosion of romance-only bookstores.</a></li><li>Jen <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_person_fiction" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">doesn’t do RPF</a> and she <a href="https://youtu.be/U2W173hRfyA?si=FG4tDTJZnuHCDBML" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">doesn’t really know anything about Taylor Swift</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>You might want to enjoy Andrew McCarthy’s navel gazing in <a href="https://youtu.be/MxVNQkRM5Qw?si=VqpDbOK6zQEBinsH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the documentary Brats,</a> even if it’s just to <a href="https://www.vulture.com/article/hollywood-brat-pack-name-david-blum.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">roll your eyes.&nbsp;</a></li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li>Blue Box Press, publishers of Aurora Rose Reynolds's <em>BRODIE: An Until Her Novella</em>, available in print or ebook, <a href="https://amzn.to/3WcQUTV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from Amazon</a>.</li><li>Aethon Books, publishers of Hannah Levin's THE TREASURED ONE, available in print, ebook or audiobook, <a href="https://amzn.to/3Wc5ScW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from Amazon</a>. </li><li>Tara L. Roí, author of <em>HOPE</em>, available in print or ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/3xKV9Nd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/no/book/hope/id6465424407" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/hope-tara-l-ro/1144049192?ean=2940167107809" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/7/8/s0644-summer-romance-bingo-recommendations-2024 </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/7/8/s0644-summer-romance-bingo-recommendations-2024]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">39972ae8-0f44-4d33-84fd-85560853c760</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 08 Jul 2024 11:47:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/34559321-b079-49d3-bccc-5904eae419a2/fated-mates-summer-romance-bingo.mp3" length="99182945" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:28:50</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>44</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>44</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-34559321-b079-49d3-bccc-5904eae419a2.json" type="application/json+chapters"/><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="video/youtube" title="S06:44 Summer Romance Bingo Recommendations 2024"><podcast:source uri="https://youtu.be/hMeeOFwf43Y"/></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>S06.43: Even Our Hiatus Is a 20 Minute Episode</title><itunes:title>Even Our Hiatus Is a 20 Minute Episode</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We're taking a break this week, but we forgot to tell anyone about it. </p><p>We’ll be back next week. In the meantime, check out <a href="https://www.32auctions.com/romancingthevote2024" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Romancing the Vote 2024</a>!</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We're taking a break this week, but we forgot to tell anyone about it. </p><p>We’ll be back next week. In the meantime, check out <a href="https://www.32auctions.com/romancingthevote2024" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Romancing the Vote 2024</a>!</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/7/3/even-our-hiatus-is-a-20-minute-episode]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:66855254724ca803af0cedf0</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/24e49cef-f73d-4e38-9f89-55b40999e950/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 03 Jul 2024 13:40:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/e0b8b2a2-9064-4e08-ab89-aab88f05a0a2/fated-mates-hiatus-revC.mp3" length="24434796" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>19:36</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>43</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>43</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We&apos;re taking a break this week, but we forgot to tell anyone about it.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-e0b8b2a2-9064-4e08-ab89-aab88f05a0a2.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S06.42: Witch Romances (are not just for Halloween)</title><itunes:title>Witch Romances (are not just for Halloween)</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Who says it has to be Halloween to celebrate witches? It’s 2024 and frankly, we could do with a few more powerful, spell-casting women around here. We’re talking about our favorite witch romances, many of which (see what we did there) have nothing at all to do with spooky season! There are rumors of a new Practical Magic in the air, which (ope!) makes us extremely happy, and we’re just trying to decide which (!!!) of these fabulous books to reread this week. We’re going deep into romance history to talk about why witches are so compelling, why they’re perfect for a light, frothy romance, and why magic in the hands of men doesn’t hit the same way. </p><p>We are the weirdos, Mister.</p><h2>The Books</h2><ul><li>Jill Barnett's <a href="https://amzn.to/3L0VMoG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">BETWITCHING</a></li><li>Teresa Medeiros's <a href="https://amzn.to/4cgBio2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">BREATH OF MAGIC</a></li><li>Teresa Medeiros's <a href="https://amzn.to/3zjn2wc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">TOUCH OF ENCHANTMENT</a></li><li>Annette Blair's <a href="https://amzn.to/45IKkI8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">SEX AND THE PSYCHIC WITCH</a></li><li>Annette Blair's <a href="https://amzn.to/4eGZxNY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">GONE WITH THE WITCH</a></li><li>Annette Blair's <a href="https://amzn.to/3VDmGbm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">NEVER BEEN WITCHED</a></li><li>Nora Roberts's <a href="https://amzn.to/3VDO4G6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">DARK WITCH</a></li><li>Nora Roberts's <a href="https://amzn.to/3VVANdl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">SHADOW SPELL</a></li><li>Nora Roberts's <a href="https://amzn.to/4eCrXsi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">BLOOD MAGIC</a></li><li>Molly Harper's <a href="https://amzn.to/3xxKVj3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">WITCHES GET STUFF DONE</a></li><li>Molly Harper's <a href="https://amzn.to/3XDMhDm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">BIG WITCH ENERGY</a></li><li>Celestine Martin's <a href="https://amzn.to/3VWQX62" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">WITCHFUL THINKING</a></li><li>Juliette Cross's <a href="https://amzn.to/4cwe6T3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">RESTING WITCH FACE</a></li><li>AJ Sherwood's <a href="https://amzn.to/4cslChc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A FAE COIN TRANSPORTED ME INTO ANOTHER WORLD AND NOW I'M THE GAY HOLY MAIDEN</a></li><li>Kimberly Lemming's <a href="https://amzn.to/4cCkQ1i" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">THAT TIME I GOT DRUNK AND YEETED A LOVE POTION AT A WEREWOLF</a></li><li>Meg Cabot's <a href="https://amzn.to/3VXeFPC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ENCHANTED TO MEET YOU</a> </li><li>Alexis Daria's <a href="https://amzn.to/4cjIaRI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">WHAT THE HEX</a></li><li>Erin Sterling's <a href="https://amzn.to/3XFrvDx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">THE EX HEX</a></li></ul><br/><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li>If you liked the post-it note situation in <a href="https://amzn.to/45HRSuH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Fall Guy</a>, or the low-tech pre-post it note version from <a href="https://amzn.to/3W02mBd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Romancing the Stone</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/3xyAYBQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Aqua Notes</a> may be for you.&nbsp;</li><li>Today banter portion was very into <a href="https://inkdetroit.com/products/the-great-lakes-state-great-lakes-great-times-t-shirt-granite" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“Great Lakes, Great Times.” </a>If you would like to talk to Sarah about <a href="https://www.doorcounty.com/experience/fish-boils" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Wisconsin fish boil</a> from Top Chef, please take that up with her and leave Jen out of it. Or travel across Lake Michigan on <a href="https://ssbadger.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the SS Badger ferry</a>. (But you cannot <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/memes/comments/gl8a9l/the_sun_has_rise_the_sun_has_set_and_we_are_still/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">drive across Texas</a> in one day).&nbsp;</li><li>The entry point for witches tends to the fun, silly ones: <a href="https://amzn.to/3RIyJmC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Bewitched</em></a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/4eFHDes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Hocus Pocus</em></a>, but also because it’s the realm of women, we love movies like <a href="https://amzn.to/3RFkyhW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Practical Magic</em></a>, The <a href="https://amzn.to/4cAWQeR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Witches of Eastwick</em></a>, and <a href="https://amzn.to/3VWQmBk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Craft</em></a>. <a href="https://screenrant.com/vampire-diaries-buffy-slayer-bonnie-bennett-vs-willow-rosenberg-witch-most-powerful/#:~:text=Willow%3A%20Activated%20All%20Of%20The%20Slayers&amp;text=The%20Potential%20Slayers%2C%20led%20by,every%20Potential's%20dormant%20Slayer%20powers.&amp;text=Willow%20utilizes%20exceptionally%20powerful%20magic%20to%20activate%20all%20of%20the%20Potential%20Slayers." rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Willow’s arc on <em>Buffy the Vampire Slayer</em></a> goes from rom-com witch to strong witch to evil witch. Here’s a critique of <a href="https://www.themarysue.com/we-need-to-talk-about-the-witchers-yennefer-magic-disability-and-motherhood/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Yennefer’s transformation in <em>The Witcher</em></a>.</li><li>Emily Alexander and Heidi Rehwaldt host a Nora Roberts podcast called <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/romancing-the-shelf/id1497434311" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Romancing the Shelf,</a> so check it out if you love La Nora!</li><li>The <a href="https://winchestermysteryhouse.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Winchester Mystery House</a> in California is pretty wild and worth going on a tour! </li><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/11/1/s0508-trailblazer-iris-johansen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Listen to Iris Johansen’s Trailblazer episode.</a></li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li>Blue Box Press, publishers of C. Travis Rice’s <em>Sapphire Dawn, </em>available in print, ebook, or with your <a href="https://amzn.to/3KWcxBA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li>Lumi Labs, creators of Lumi Gummies. Go to <a href="https://lumigummies.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lumigummies.com</a> and use code FATED50 for free gummies with a limited time $50 off coupon. Or use code FATEDMATES for 30% Off. </li><li>Grand Central Publishing, publishers of Iris Johansen and Roy Johansen’s <em>Flashback, </em>available in print, ebook, or audiobook at <a href="https://amzn.to/3XFrXBz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/flashback-iris-johansen/1143598828" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/flashback-135" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/flashback/id6449925591" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781538726266" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local bookseller</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/6/24/s0642-witchy-romances-are-not-just-for-halloween </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who says it has to be Halloween to celebrate witches? It’s 2024 and frankly, we could do with a few more powerful, spell-casting women around here. We’re talking about our favorite witch romances, many of which (see what we did there) have nothing at all to do with spooky season! There are rumors of a new Practical Magic in the air, which (ope!) makes us extremely happy, and we’re just trying to decide which (!!!) of these fabulous books to reread this week. We’re going deep into romance history to talk about why witches are so compelling, why they’re perfect for a light, frothy romance, and why magic in the hands of men doesn’t hit the same way. </p><p>We are the weirdos, Mister.</p><h2>The Books</h2><ul><li>Jill Barnett's <a href="https://amzn.to/3L0VMoG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">BETWITCHING</a></li><li>Teresa Medeiros's <a href="https://amzn.to/4cgBio2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">BREATH OF MAGIC</a></li><li>Teresa Medeiros's <a href="https://amzn.to/3zjn2wc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">TOUCH OF ENCHANTMENT</a></li><li>Annette Blair's <a href="https://amzn.to/45IKkI8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">SEX AND THE PSYCHIC WITCH</a></li><li>Annette Blair's <a href="https://amzn.to/4eGZxNY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">GONE WITH THE WITCH</a></li><li>Annette Blair's <a href="https://amzn.to/3VDmGbm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">NEVER BEEN WITCHED</a></li><li>Nora Roberts's <a href="https://amzn.to/3VDO4G6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">DARK WITCH</a></li><li>Nora Roberts's <a href="https://amzn.to/3VVANdl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">SHADOW SPELL</a></li><li>Nora Roberts's <a href="https://amzn.to/4eCrXsi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">BLOOD MAGIC</a></li><li>Molly Harper's <a href="https://amzn.to/3xxKVj3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">WITCHES GET STUFF DONE</a></li><li>Molly Harper's <a href="https://amzn.to/3XDMhDm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">BIG WITCH ENERGY</a></li><li>Celestine Martin's <a href="https://amzn.to/3VWQX62" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">WITCHFUL THINKING</a></li><li>Juliette Cross's <a href="https://amzn.to/4cwe6T3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">RESTING WITCH FACE</a></li><li>AJ Sherwood's <a href="https://amzn.to/4cslChc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A FAE COIN TRANSPORTED ME INTO ANOTHER WORLD AND NOW I'M THE GAY HOLY MAIDEN</a></li><li>Kimberly Lemming's <a href="https://amzn.to/4cCkQ1i" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">THAT TIME I GOT DRUNK AND YEETED A LOVE POTION AT A WEREWOLF</a></li><li>Meg Cabot's <a href="https://amzn.to/3VXeFPC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ENCHANTED TO MEET YOU</a> </li><li>Alexis Daria's <a href="https://amzn.to/4cjIaRI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">WHAT THE HEX</a></li><li>Erin Sterling's <a href="https://amzn.to/3XFrvDx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">THE EX HEX</a></li></ul><br/><h2>The Notes</h2><ul><li>If you liked the post-it note situation in <a href="https://amzn.to/45HRSuH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Fall Guy</a>, or the low-tech pre-post it note version from <a href="https://amzn.to/3W02mBd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Romancing the Stone</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/3xyAYBQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Aqua Notes</a> may be for you.&nbsp;</li><li>Today banter portion was very into <a href="https://inkdetroit.com/products/the-great-lakes-state-great-lakes-great-times-t-shirt-granite" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“Great Lakes, Great Times.” </a>If you would like to talk to Sarah about <a href="https://www.doorcounty.com/experience/fish-boils" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Wisconsin fish boil</a> from Top Chef, please take that up with her and leave Jen out of it. Or travel across Lake Michigan on <a href="https://ssbadger.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the SS Badger ferry</a>. (But you cannot <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/memes/comments/gl8a9l/the_sun_has_rise_the_sun_has_set_and_we_are_still/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">drive across Texas</a> in one day).&nbsp;</li><li>The entry point for witches tends to the fun, silly ones: <a href="https://amzn.to/3RIyJmC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Bewitched</em></a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/4eFHDes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Hocus Pocus</em></a>, but also because it’s the realm of women, we love movies like <a href="https://amzn.to/3RFkyhW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Practical Magic</em></a>, The <a href="https://amzn.to/4cAWQeR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Witches of Eastwick</em></a>, and <a href="https://amzn.to/3VWQmBk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Craft</em></a>. <a href="https://screenrant.com/vampire-diaries-buffy-slayer-bonnie-bennett-vs-willow-rosenberg-witch-most-powerful/#:~:text=Willow%3A%20Activated%20All%20Of%20The%20Slayers&amp;text=The%20Potential%20Slayers%2C%20led%20by,every%20Potential's%20dormant%20Slayer%20powers.&amp;text=Willow%20utilizes%20exceptionally%20powerful%20magic%20to%20activate%20all%20of%20the%20Potential%20Slayers." rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Willow’s arc on <em>Buffy the Vampire Slayer</em></a> goes from rom-com witch to strong witch to evil witch. Here’s a critique of <a href="https://www.themarysue.com/we-need-to-talk-about-the-witchers-yennefer-magic-disability-and-motherhood/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Yennefer’s transformation in <em>The Witcher</em></a>.</li><li>Emily Alexander and Heidi Rehwaldt host a Nora Roberts podcast called <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/romancing-the-shelf/id1497434311" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Romancing the Shelf,</a> so check it out if you love La Nora!</li><li>The <a href="https://winchestermysteryhouse.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Winchester Mystery House</a> in California is pretty wild and worth going on a tour! </li><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/11/1/s0508-trailblazer-iris-johansen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Listen to Iris Johansen’s Trailblazer episode.</a></li></ul><br/><h2>The Sponsors</h2><ul><li>Blue Box Press, publishers of C. Travis Rice’s <em>Sapphire Dawn, </em>available in print, ebook, or with your <a href="https://amzn.to/3KWcxBA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li>Lumi Labs, creators of Lumi Gummies. Go to <a href="https://lumigummies.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lumigummies.com</a> and use code FATED50 for free gummies with a limited time $50 off coupon. Or use code FATEDMATES for 30% Off. </li><li>Grand Central Publishing, publishers of Iris Johansen and Roy Johansen’s <em>Flashback, </em>available in print, ebook, or audiobook at <a href="https://amzn.to/3XFrXBz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/flashback-iris-johansen/1143598828" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/flashback-135" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/flashback/id6449925591" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781538726266" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local bookseller</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/6/24/s0642-witchy-romances-are-not-just-for-halloween </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/6/24/s0642-witchy-romances-are-not-just-for-halloween]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:667a058f0a35081a0ef00bfc</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/47bcf3f6-9bf5-4d65-b49d-ad5b7dea1875/pink-read-along.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 26 Jun 2024 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/2f9667ad-1e84-40e3-aa1b-10f63804a0b4/fated-mates-witches.mp3" length="86151150" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:23:32</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>42</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>42</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Who says it has to be Halloween to celebrate witches? It’s 2024 and frankly, we could do with a few more powerful, spell-casting women around here. We’re talking about our favorite witch romances, many of which (see what we did there) have nothing at all to do with spooky season! There are rumors of a new Practical Magic in the air, which (ope!) makes us extremely happy, and we’re just trying to decide which (!!!) of these fabulous books to reread this week. We’re going deep into romance history to talk about why witches are so compelling, why they’re perfect for a light, frothy romance, and why magic in the hands of men doesn’t hit the same way. 

We are the weirdos, Mister.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-2f9667ad-1e84-40e3-aa1b-10f63804a0b4.json" type="application/json+chapters"/><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="video/youtube" title="S06.42: Witch Romances (are not just for Halloween)"><podcast:source uri="https://youtu.be/ejMdKN50k0E"/></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>S06:41: The Devil of Downtown (Yeah, He Is) by Joanna Shupe</title><itunes:title>The Devil of Downtown (Yeah, He Is) by Joanna Shupe</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We are talking about a full on banger this week — Joanna Shupe’s <em>The Devil of Downtown</em>, which is Sarah’s favorite of the Uptown Girls series (Jen is a <em>The Prince of Broadway</em> fan, but honestly, all three are basically perfect). We love this one so much, you’re about to get an hour or so of squeeing and sighing — Jack Mulligan is everything you could possibly want in a romance hero, Justine Greene is the do goodingest do gooder who ever was, and the way they adore each other is enough to wreck you. If you haven’t read this one yet, do yourself a favor and go read the whole series right now…Joanna Shupe proves that historical romance is everything you want.</p><p>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where 1000 other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as we do at <a href="http://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Joanna Shupe also writes mafia romance under the pen name Mila Finelli, and we love <a href="https://amzn.to/3VMnziR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Kings of Italy series.&nbsp;</a></li><li>The Greene sisters are loosely based on <a href="https://www.oprahdaily.com/entertainment/a33014865/hamilton-schuyler-sisters-facts/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Schuyler Sisters</a>, made famous by the musical Hamilton.&nbsp;</li><li>On the TV show <em>The Wire</em>, a popular drug dealer named <a href="https://villains.fandom.com/wiki/Russell_%22Stringer%22_Bell" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stringer Bell</a> only moved up to the big leagues of evil once he started buying up real estate and rubbing elbows with politicians and businessmen, who are portrayed as the biggest crooks of all.&nbsp;</li><li>The story of <a href="https://illinois.pbslearningmedia.org/resource/amex34tf-soc-triangleshirtwaist/the-triangle-shirtwaist-factory-fire-a-catalyst-for-reform-triangle-fire/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Triangle shirtwaist factory fire</a> is tragic, and ultimately led to <a href="https://aflcio.org/about/history/labor-history-events/triangle-shirtwaist-fire" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">labor reforms</a> around the country.&nbsp;</li><li>The <em>Sex in the City</em> gals have <a href="https://youtu.be/VdSiluSnWFI?si=AiOT_j10WI9kU18m" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">some thoughts about butt stuff.</a></li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li>Dr. Melissa Dymond, author of <em>Paging Dr. Hart</em>, available in print or ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/4b6UHGx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a></li><li>Mary James Ketch, oil painter. Find her new series of paintings and prints, <a href="https://maryjamesketch.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book Lovers, at her online studio</a>. </li><li>Pocket Books Shop in Lancaster, PA. Check out their new <a href="https://www.pocketbooksshop.com/subscriptions-surprise-boxes/swoony-subscription" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">$40 Swoony Subscription Box</a> for a monthly delivery of brand new, hand-selected romance novels and access to a discussion Discord. July’s box includes TRIPLE SEC by TJ Alexander,&nbsp;FOR REAL by Alexis Hall, and A LIAISON WITH HER LEADING LADY by Lotte R. James. </li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/6/18/s0641-the-devil-of-downtown-by-joanna-shupe </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are talking about a full on banger this week — Joanna Shupe’s <em>The Devil of Downtown</em>, which is Sarah’s favorite of the Uptown Girls series (Jen is a <em>The Prince of Broadway</em> fan, but honestly, all three are basically perfect). We love this one so much, you’re about to get an hour or so of squeeing and sighing — Jack Mulligan is everything you could possibly want in a romance hero, Justine Greene is the do goodingest do gooder who ever was, and the way they adore each other is enough to wreck you. If you haven’t read this one yet, do yourself a favor and go read the whole series right now…Joanna Shupe proves that historical romance is everything you want.</p><p>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where 1000 other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as we do at <a href="http://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Joanna Shupe also writes mafia romance under the pen name Mila Finelli, and we love <a href="https://amzn.to/3VMnziR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Kings of Italy series.&nbsp;</a></li><li>The Greene sisters are loosely based on <a href="https://www.oprahdaily.com/entertainment/a33014865/hamilton-schuyler-sisters-facts/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Schuyler Sisters</a>, made famous by the musical Hamilton.&nbsp;</li><li>On the TV show <em>The Wire</em>, a popular drug dealer named <a href="https://villains.fandom.com/wiki/Russell_%22Stringer%22_Bell" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stringer Bell</a> only moved up to the big leagues of evil once he started buying up real estate and rubbing elbows with politicians and businessmen, who are portrayed as the biggest crooks of all.&nbsp;</li><li>The story of <a href="https://illinois.pbslearningmedia.org/resource/amex34tf-soc-triangleshirtwaist/the-triangle-shirtwaist-factory-fire-a-catalyst-for-reform-triangle-fire/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Triangle shirtwaist factory fire</a> is tragic, and ultimately led to <a href="https://aflcio.org/about/history/labor-history-events/triangle-shirtwaist-fire" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">labor reforms</a> around the country.&nbsp;</li><li>The <em>Sex in the City</em> gals have <a href="https://youtu.be/VdSiluSnWFI?si=AiOT_j10WI9kU18m" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">some thoughts about butt stuff.</a></li></ul><br/><h2>Sponsors</h2><ul><li>Dr. Melissa Dymond, author of <em>Paging Dr. Hart</em>, available in print or ebook, or <a href="https://amzn.to/4b6UHGx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a></li><li>Mary James Ketch, oil painter. Find her new series of paintings and prints, <a href="https://maryjamesketch.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book Lovers, at her online studio</a>. </li><li>Pocket Books Shop in Lancaster, PA. Check out their new <a href="https://www.pocketbooksshop.com/subscriptions-surprise-boxes/swoony-subscription" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">$40 Swoony Subscription Box</a> for a monthly delivery of brand new, hand-selected romance novels and access to a discussion Discord. July’s box includes TRIPLE SEC by TJ Alexander,&nbsp;FOR REAL by Alexis Hall, and A LIAISON WITH HER LEADING LADY by Lotte R. James. </li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/6/18/s0641-the-devil-of-downtown-by-joanna-shupe </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/6/18/s0641-the-devil-of-downtown-by-joanna-shupe]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:6671a94bdf9c6a5ee9d0e4e3</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2024 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/2b41afec-5495-4119-b37c-91f684694e42/fated-mates-the-devil-of-downtown.mp3" length="70870361" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:09:42</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>41</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>41</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We are talking about a full on banger of a historical this week — Joanna Shupe’s The Devil of Downtown, which is Sarah’s favorite of the Uptown Girls series (Jen is a The Prince of Broadway fan, but honestly, all three are basically perfect). We love this one so much, you’re about to get an hour or so of squeeing and sighing — Jack Mulligan is everything you could possibly want in a romance hero, Justine Greene is the do goodingest doo gooder who ever was, and the way they adore each other is enough to wreck you. If you haven’t read this one yet, do yourself a favor and go read the whole series right now.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-2b41afec-5495-4119-b37c-91f684694e42.json" type="application/json+chapters"/><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="video/youtube" title="S06:41: The Devil of Downtown (Yeah, He Is) by Joanna Shupe"><podcast:source uri="https://youtu.be/I7HjEG3gtuY"/></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>S06.40: Siblings in Romance Novels</title><itunes:title>Siblings in Romance Novels</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We’re talking about brothers and sisters as secondary characters in romance today — by popular demand from listeners, it’s our sibling episode! We get to the bottom of why we all love secondary siblings—the overbearing olders, the wild child middles, the delightful youngers, the equally handsome and broad shouldered boys, the snarky, stunning girls, and everyone else who’s ever caught our eye and made us say “now where’s there book?!” We tackled complicated relationships, shared history and the perfect fantasy of family that romance delivers so well.</p><p>Next week, we’re reading Joanna Shupe’s <a href="https://amzn.to/44MpZkr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Devil of Downtown</em></a>, from her Uptown Girls trilogy. There are sisters! Also, it’s Jen’s favorite in the series and an absolute banger. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/44MpZkr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/44MpZkr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-devil-of-downtown-1?gad_source=1&amp;gclid=EAIaIQobChMIx5jI0cCOhgMV5kpHAR3oDgB5EAAYASAAEgI1vfD_BwE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-devil-of-downtown/id1485213790" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780062906854" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>.</p><p>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where 1000 other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as we do at <a href="http://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>.</p><p>Show Notes</p><p>We’ve done <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/12/5/s0512-twins-in-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twins</a>, and we’ve done <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/25-best-friends-sibling-romances-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">siblings’s best friend</a>, but this time we’re talking about plain old siblings in romance. We’re definitely not talking about anything <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/5/25/s0340-tangled-lies-by-anne-stuart" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Tangled Lies</em></a> adjacent this time.</p><p>If you want the deep dives we mentioned, they are <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/4/2/s0630-preferential-treatment-by-heather-guerre" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Preferential Treatment</em></a>, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/10/7/s025-gentle-rogue" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Gentle Rogue</em></a> and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/3/17/s0228-devils-bride-by-stephanie-laurens" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Devil’s Bride</em></a>.</p><p><a href="https://illinoiseonstage.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Illinoise is playing on Broadway</a> if you’re in New York this summer.&nbsp;</p><p>They’ll be a meet-up at <a href="https://www.steamylitcon.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Steamy Lit Con</a> for us with our listeners, details coming soon!&nbsp;</p><p>There’s a dark romance podcast called <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/trigger-warning-romance/id1613004157" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Trigger Warning</a> you might want to check out, and in case you want to read that romance with mummification but no cheating, it’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3VCEkNk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Dead Love</em> by Audrey Rush</a>&nbsp;</p><p>The Orphan X book with the evil killer siblings is <a href="https://amzn.to/3yTVuxk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Prodigal Son</em>.</a></p><p>In case you have ever wondered about the provenance of <a href="https://www.staples.com/x-acto-commercial-grade-15-guillotine-trimmer-black-brown-26615/product_264904" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the beloved Fated Mates phrase, “take the finger”</a> this is an episode where Sarah talks about the book that inspired it.</p><h2>Sponsors</h2><p>Frederick Smith, author of <em>One and Done</em>, available at in print or ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/4bVF1Hv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/one-and-done-frederick-smith/1143879320" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/one-and-done-10" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781636795645" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a></p><p>Aethon Press, publishers of SK Horton’s <em>The Concealed, </em>available in print, ebook or audiobook, or with <a href="https://amzn.to/3RqKwpf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a></p><p>Avon Books, publishers of Alexandria Bellefleur’s <em>Truly, Madly, Deeply</em>, available at in print, ebook, or audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/4bfs625" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/truly-madly-deeply/id6449970046" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/truly-madly-deeply-alexandria-bellefleur/1143593913?ean=9780063258532" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/truly-madly-deeply-25" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063258532" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>. </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We’re talking about brothers and sisters as secondary characters in romance today — by popular demand from listeners, it’s our sibling episode! We get to the bottom of why we all love secondary siblings—the overbearing olders, the wild child middles, the delightful youngers, the equally handsome and broad shouldered boys, the snarky, stunning girls, and everyone else who’s ever caught our eye and made us say “now where’s there book?!” We tackled complicated relationships, shared history and the perfect fantasy of family that romance delivers so well.</p><p>Next week, we’re reading Joanna Shupe’s <a href="https://amzn.to/44MpZkr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Devil of Downtown</em></a>, from her Uptown Girls trilogy. There are sisters! Also, it’s Jen’s favorite in the series and an absolute banger. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/44MpZkr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/44MpZkr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-devil-of-downtown-1?gad_source=1&amp;gclid=EAIaIQobChMIx5jI0cCOhgMV5kpHAR3oDgB5EAAYASAAEgI1vfD_BwE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-devil-of-downtown/id1485213790" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780062906854" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>.</p><p>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where 1000 other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as we do at <a href="http://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>.</p><p>Show Notes</p><p>We’ve done <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/12/5/s0512-twins-in-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twins</a>, and we’ve done <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/25-best-friends-sibling-romances-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">siblings’s best friend</a>, but this time we’re talking about plain old siblings in romance. We’re definitely not talking about anything <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/5/25/s0340-tangled-lies-by-anne-stuart" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Tangled Lies</em></a> adjacent this time.</p><p>If you want the deep dives we mentioned, they are <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/4/2/s0630-preferential-treatment-by-heather-guerre" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Preferential Treatment</em></a>, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/10/7/s025-gentle-rogue" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Gentle Rogue</em></a> and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/3/17/s0228-devils-bride-by-stephanie-laurens" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Devil’s Bride</em></a>.</p><p><a href="https://illinoiseonstage.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Illinoise is playing on Broadway</a> if you’re in New York this summer.&nbsp;</p><p>They’ll be a meet-up at <a href="https://www.steamylitcon.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Steamy Lit Con</a> for us with our listeners, details coming soon!&nbsp;</p><p>There’s a dark romance podcast called <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/trigger-warning-romance/id1613004157" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Trigger Warning</a> you might want to check out, and in case you want to read that romance with mummification but no cheating, it’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3VCEkNk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Dead Love</em> by Audrey Rush</a>&nbsp;</p><p>The Orphan X book with the evil killer siblings is <a href="https://amzn.to/3yTVuxk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Prodigal Son</em>.</a></p><p>In case you have ever wondered about the provenance of <a href="https://www.staples.com/x-acto-commercial-grade-15-guillotine-trimmer-black-brown-26615/product_264904" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the beloved Fated Mates phrase, “take the finger”</a> this is an episode where Sarah talks about the book that inspired it.</p><h2>Sponsors</h2><p>Frederick Smith, author of <em>One and Done</em>, available at in print or ebook from <a href="https://amzn.to/4bVF1Hv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/one-and-done-frederick-smith/1143879320" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/one-and-done-10" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781636795645" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a></p><p>Aethon Press, publishers of SK Horton’s <em>The Concealed, </em>available in print, ebook or audiobook, or with <a href="https://amzn.to/3RqKwpf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a></p><p>Avon Books, publishers of Alexandria Bellefleur’s <em>Truly, Madly, Deeply</em>, available at in print, ebook, or audiobook from <a href="https://amzn.to/4bfs625" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/truly-madly-deeply/id6449970046" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/truly-madly-deeply-alexandria-bellefleur/1143593913?ean=9780063258532" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/truly-madly-deeply-25" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063258532" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wherever you get your books</a>. </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/6/11/s0640-siblings-as-secondary-characters]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:666889a9269437129c262c24</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/cede6d1e-277a-4fb2-bac2-5d2e05f92662/pink-read-along.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 12 Jun 2024 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/ce2f13c4-af49-4d1f-aa62-2cc1ca5afd73/fated-mates-siblings-in-romance-novels.mp3" length="100903960" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:37:42</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>40</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>40</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We’re talking about brothers and sisters as secondary characters in romance today — by popular demand from listeners, it’s our sibling episode! We get to the bottom of why we all love secondary siblings—the overbearing olders, the wild child middles, the delightful youngers, the equally handsome and broad shouldered boys, the snarky, stunning girls, and everyone else who’s ever caught our eye and made us say “now where’s there book?!” We tackled complicated relationships, shared history and the perfect fantasy of family that romance delivers so well.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-ce2f13c4-af49-4d1f-aa62-2cc1ca5afd73.json" type="application/json+chapters"/><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="video/youtube" title="S06.40: Siblings in Romance Novels"><podcast:source uri="https://youtu.be/pVtByFvSUeU"/></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>S06.39: Summer 2024 Reads</title><itunes:title>Summer 2024 Reads</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>School’s out for Jen’s summer and Sarah’s in the final stretch so we’re dreaming of romance beach reads and talking about our massive summer TBR piles! There’s something here for everyone — hot librarians, superheroes, heists, funeral homes, wedding planners and baseball players and F1 drivers and, of course, dukes.</p><p>Our next read along is Joanna Shupe’s <a href="https://amzn.to/44MpZkr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Devil of Downtown</em></a>, from her Uptown Girls trilogy. It’s Jen’s favorite in the series. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/44MpZkr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/44MpZkr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-devil-of-downtown-1?gad_source=1&amp;gclid=EAIaIQobChMIx5jI0cCOhgMV5kpHAR3oDgB5EAAYASAAEgI1vfD_BwE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-devil-of-downtown/id1485213790" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780062906854" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>.</p><p>If you love a fire hose of romance recommendations, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where 1000 other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as we do at <a href="http://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>.</p><p>Show Notes</p><p>Maybe <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/06/male-pundits-wnba-caitlin-clark/678587/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">men shouldn’t cover the WNBA</a>, tbh.&nbsp;</p><p>All about <a href="https://youtu.be/17ViCtd-dt4?si=ADuNr6ytnR5aV5Kk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The electric slide</a>.</p><p>You can follow <a href="https://www.instagram.com/dodothebookbitch/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">DodoTheBookBitch</a> on Instagram; <a href="https://instagram.com/sarahmaclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">follow Sarah there</a> to see the scratch-off TBR poster.&nbsp;</p><p>Jacque is one our romancelandia faves, and she has <a href="https://x.com/onthesamepa9e/status/1796979788558569972" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a Pride reading challenge</a> for you all. <a href="https://www.threads.net/@romantically_inclined?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA%3D%3D" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">RomanticallyInclined</a> is on Threads reading books with fewer than 100 reviews all through June.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>For reviews in advance of publication, your best bet is <a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kirkus</a> (Jen reviews for them), but you can also try <a href="https://www.booklistonline.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Booklist</a> or <a href="https://www.publishersweekly.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Publisher’s Weekly</a>. We also talked about <a href="https://www.netgalley.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">NetGalley</a> and <a href="https://www.edelweiss.plus/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Edelweiss</a> to discover upcoming books.</p><p>If you’re in NYC, don’t miss the launch event for Liana de la Rosa’s Isabel and the Rogue next week! She’ll be at The Ripped Bodice with Sarah and Adriana Herrera…and Sophie Jordan will be there, too! <a href="https://www.therippedbodicela.com/brooklyn-events" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tickets and info here.</a></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>School’s out for Jen’s summer and Sarah’s in the final stretch so we’re dreaming of romance beach reads and talking about our massive summer TBR piles! There’s something here for everyone — hot librarians, superheroes, heists, funeral homes, wedding planners and baseball players and F1 drivers and, of course, dukes.</p><p>Our next read along is Joanna Shupe’s <a href="https://amzn.to/44MpZkr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Devil of Downtown</em></a>, from her Uptown Girls trilogy. It’s Jen’s favorite in the series. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/44MpZkr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/44MpZkr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-devil-of-downtown-1?gad_source=1&amp;gclid=EAIaIQobChMIx5jI0cCOhgMV5kpHAR3oDgB5EAAYASAAEgI1vfD_BwE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-devil-of-downtown/id1485213790" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780062906854" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>.</p><p>If you love a fire hose of romance recommendations, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where 1000 other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as we do at <a href="http://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>.</p><p>Show Notes</p><p>Maybe <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/06/male-pundits-wnba-caitlin-clark/678587/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">men shouldn’t cover the WNBA</a>, tbh.&nbsp;</p><p>All about <a href="https://youtu.be/17ViCtd-dt4?si=ADuNr6ytnR5aV5Kk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The electric slide</a>.</p><p>You can follow <a href="https://www.instagram.com/dodothebookbitch/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">DodoTheBookBitch</a> on Instagram; <a href="https://instagram.com/sarahmaclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">follow Sarah there</a> to see the scratch-off TBR poster.&nbsp;</p><p>Jacque is one our romancelandia faves, and she has <a href="https://x.com/onthesamepa9e/status/1796979788558569972" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a Pride reading challenge</a> for you all. <a href="https://www.threads.net/@romantically_inclined?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA%3D%3D" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">RomanticallyInclined</a> is on Threads reading books with fewer than 100 reviews all through June.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>For reviews in advance of publication, your best bet is <a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kirkus</a> (Jen reviews for them), but you can also try <a href="https://www.booklistonline.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Booklist</a> or <a href="https://www.publishersweekly.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Publisher’s Weekly</a>. We also talked about <a href="https://www.netgalley.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">NetGalley</a> and <a href="https://www.edelweiss.plus/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Edelweiss</a> to discover upcoming books.</p><p>If you’re in NYC, don’t miss the launch event for Liana de la Rosa’s Isabel and the Rogue next week! She’ll be at The Ripped Bodice with Sarah and Adriana Herrera…and Sophie Jordan will be there, too! <a href="https://www.therippedbodicela.com/brooklyn-events" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tickets and info here.</a></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/6/3/s0639-summer-reads]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:665e3ecf41a71d2c2c6c29df</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bd4d7b62-149d-4f19-9454-b7483130a161/pink-read-along.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 05 Jun 2024 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/5e055952-4ed4-428e-b9d0-7983679bb87a/fated-mates-summer-reads-2024.mp3" length="107060094" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:38:28</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>39</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>39</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><itunes:summary>School’s out for Jen’s summer and Sarah’s in the final stretch so we’re dreaming of romance beach reads and talking about our massive summer TBR piles! There’s something here for everyone — hot librarians,  superheroes, heists, funeral homes, wedding planners and baseball players and F1 drivers and, of course, dukes.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-5e055952-4ed4-428e-b9d0-7983679bb87a.json" type="application/json+chapters"/><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="video/youtube" title="S06.39: Summer 2024 Reads"><podcast:source uri="https://youtu.be/8T1tl4zYe3k"/></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>S06.38: Curvy Heroines #3: Curvy Girls Get Railed in Carriages, Too</title><itunes:title>Curvy Heroines #3: Curvy Girls Get Railed in Carriages, Too</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>One of our most popular interstitial topics, we had to come back for a third run at Curvy Heroines this month in celebration of Bridgerton-mania online and our absolute delight that we finally get to see Penelope get that handsome man who is just back from his long trip to glow-up-land (we deserve nice things, and so do curvy heroines)! Sarah’s talking exclusively about historicals today, and Jen is bringing new-to-the-pod authors to the table…all that, and we’re naming the six historicals Sarah’s written with curvy heroines (There’s also a contemporary! Check the photo array, below). This one is a lot of fun.</p><p>Our next read along is Joanna Shupe’s <a href="https://amzn.to/44MpZkr"><em>The Devil of Downtown</em></a>, from her Uptown Girls trilogy. It’s Jen’s favorite in the series. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/44MpZkr">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/44MpZkr">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-devil-of-downtown-1?gad_source=1&amp;gclid=EAIaIQobChMIx5jI0cCOhgMV5kpHAR3oDgB5EAAYASAAEgI1vfD_BwE">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-devil-of-downtown/id1485213790">Apple</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780062906854">your local indie</a>.</p><p>Happy anniversary to our founding Patreon members — May marks one year of our Patreon and our Discord! We love you a whole lot. Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as we do at <a href="http://patreon.com/fatedmates">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>.</p><p>Show Notes</p><p>You can visit the <a href="https://www.metmuseum.org/exhibitions/sleeping-beauties-reawakening-fashion">Sleeping Beauties Exhibit</a> at the Met, which sounds pretty fascinating, is there all summer through September 2nd.&nbsp;</p><p>All about <a href="https://health.clevelandclinic.org/smelling-salts">smelling salts</a>, <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/06/fashion/kim-kardashian-met-gala.html">Kardashian levels of rib removal</a> which is called&nbsp;<a href="https://www.charlestonmuseum.org/news-events/killer-fashion-the-consequences-of-corsetry/">tight lacing</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/3V2kCJl">Each and Every brand deodorant</a>, and <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/31/well/retinol-skin-benefits.html">retinol</a>. If you’re interested historical fashion and lingerie, follow <a href="https://x.com/lingerie_addict">Cora Harrington</a> on twitter, she <a href="https://www.thelingerieaddict.com/2012/05/tightlacing-101-4-myths-about-waist-training-with-a-corset.html">wrote about corsets</a> on her blog back in 2012. If you’re interested it watching a guy talking about cologne, <a target="_blank" href="https://www.instagram.com/joshuadgodfrey/">here is link to Joshua Godfrey</a>, the guy with the labyrinth tattoo and <a target="_blank" href="https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6bhTfMNaaF/">his journey</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>If you loved Fury Road, you should read <a href="https://amzn.to/4bDuKzo">Blood, Sweat, and Chrome,</a> which is the story of how the movie was made. <a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5X3gLwvrRI">Here’s a supercut of Tom Hardy grunting</a>.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of our most popular interstitial topics, we had to come back for a third run at Curvy Heroines this month in celebration of Bridgerton-mania online and our absolute delight that we finally get to see Penelope get that handsome man who is just back from his long trip to glow-up-land (we deserve nice things, and so do curvy heroines)! Sarah’s talking exclusively about historicals today, and Jen is bringing new-to-the-pod authors to the table…all that, and we’re naming the six historicals Sarah’s written with curvy heroines (There’s also a contemporary! Check the photo array, below). This one is a lot of fun.</p><p>Our next read along is Joanna Shupe’s <a href="https://amzn.to/44MpZkr"><em>The Devil of Downtown</em></a>, from her Uptown Girls trilogy. It’s Jen’s favorite in the series. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/44MpZkr">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/44MpZkr">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-devil-of-downtown-1?gad_source=1&amp;gclid=EAIaIQobChMIx5jI0cCOhgMV5kpHAR3oDgB5EAAYASAAEgI1vfD_BwE">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-devil-of-downtown/id1485213790">Apple</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780062906854">your local indie</a>.</p><p>Happy anniversary to our founding Patreon members — May marks one year of our Patreon and our Discord! We love you a whole lot. Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as we do at <a href="http://patreon.com/fatedmates">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>.</p><p>Show Notes</p><p>You can visit the <a href="https://www.metmuseum.org/exhibitions/sleeping-beauties-reawakening-fashion">Sleeping Beauties Exhibit</a> at the Met, which sounds pretty fascinating, is there all summer through September 2nd.&nbsp;</p><p>All about <a href="https://health.clevelandclinic.org/smelling-salts">smelling salts</a>, <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/06/fashion/kim-kardashian-met-gala.html">Kardashian levels of rib removal</a> which is called&nbsp;<a href="https://www.charlestonmuseum.org/news-events/killer-fashion-the-consequences-of-corsetry/">tight lacing</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/3V2kCJl">Each and Every brand deodorant</a>, and <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/31/well/retinol-skin-benefits.html">retinol</a>. If you’re interested historical fashion and lingerie, follow <a href="https://x.com/lingerie_addict">Cora Harrington</a> on twitter, she <a href="https://www.thelingerieaddict.com/2012/05/tightlacing-101-4-myths-about-waist-training-with-a-corset.html">wrote about corsets</a> on her blog back in 2012. If you’re interested it watching a guy talking about cologne, <a target="_blank" href="https://www.instagram.com/joshuadgodfrey/">here is link to Joshua Godfrey</a>, the guy with the labyrinth tattoo and <a target="_blank" href="https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6bhTfMNaaF/">his journey</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>If you loved Fury Road, you should read <a href="https://amzn.to/4bDuKzo">Blood, Sweat, and Chrome,</a> which is the story of how the movie was made. <a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5X3gLwvrRI">Here’s a supercut of Tom Hardy grunting</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/5/28/s0638-curvy-heroines-to-the-third-power]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:665631f95133c3772467f605</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/7b6936f2-88f2-4f72-9636-4a1420f18a4f/pink-read-along.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 29 May 2024 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/439eb378-d279-440c-b06e-c3638a0fefb4/fated-mates-curvy-heroines-3.mp3" length="88578439" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:25:32</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>38</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>38</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><itunes:summary>One of our most popular interstitial topics, we had to come back for a third run at Curvy Heroines this month in celebration of Bridgerton-mania online and our absolute delight that we finally get to see Penelope get that handsome man who is just back from his long trip to glow-up-land (we deserve nice things, and so do curvy heroines)! Sarah’s talking exclusively about historicals today, and Jen is bringing new-to-the-pod authors to the table…all that, and we’re naming the six historicals Sarah’s written with curvy heroines (There’s also a contemporary! Check the photo array, below). This one is a lot of fun. </itunes:summary></item><item><title>S06.37: Weddings in Romance</title><itunes:title>Weddings in Romance</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Gather together your bouquets and boutonnières, wedding season is here! But, in typical Fated Mates fashion, we spend the first 20 minutes talking about Pulp Fiction (just go with it, these are the mysterious ways of the podcast and you just need to trust the process). Then, we’re talking weddings in romance novels—not the books where the main characters get hitched, but instead they are guests at a wedding. Maybe they’re fake dating, maybe they’re the wedding planners, or maybe they’re the runaway bride or abandoned groom. Of course, we can’t wait to hear about your favorite books that happen at a wedding..</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gather together your bouquets and boutonnières, wedding season is here! But, in typical Fated Mates fashion, we spend the first 20 minutes talking about Pulp Fiction (just go with it, these are the mysterious ways of the podcast and you just need to trust the process). Then, we’re talking weddings in romance novels—not the books where the main characters get hitched, but instead they are guests at a wedding. Maybe they’re fake dating, maybe they’re the wedding planners, or maybe they’re the runaway bride or abandoned groom. Of course, we can’t wait to hear about your favorite books that happen at a wedding..</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/5/20/0637-weddings-in-romance]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:664c03a3aa40c63fd8c3cb48</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/7d42c7ff-a319-4c65-9952-5da8ca6b2c2a/pink-read-along.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2024 04:16:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/4272b973-3320-4197-8952-6462a619835b/fated-mates-weddings-1.mp3" length="83445768" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:19:22</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>37</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>37</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Gather together your bouquets and boutonnières, wedding season is here! But, in typical Fated Mates fashion, we spend the first 20 minutes talking about Pulp Fiction (just go with it, these are the mysterious ways of the podcast and you just need to trust the process). Then, we’re talking weddings in romance novels—not the books where the main characters get hitched, but instead they are guests at a wedding. Maybe they’re fake dating, maybe they’re the wedding planners, or maybe they’re the runaway bride or abandoned groom. Of course, we can’t wait to hear about your favorite books that happen at a wedding.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-4272b973-3320-4197-8952-6462a619835b.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S06.36: The Romance Matriarchy: Moms, Grandmothers, and Aunties</title><itunes:title>The Romance Matriarchy: Moms, Grandmothers, and Aunties</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We don’t often talk about secondary characters in romance, but this week, we’re talking about the women who provide wisdom, council and laughs in romance—moms, grandmothers and aunties! We talk about the shocking epidemic of orphaned main characters in romance, about how extended family provides nuance in the books, and about our very favorite mothers, grandmothers, aunties and adopted older ladies in books. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thanks to all the women who provide care and sage advice out in the world. We appreciate you.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our next read along is Joanna Shupe’s <a href="https://amzn.to/44MpZkr"><em>The Devil of Downtown</em></a>, from her Uptown Girls trilogy. It’s Jen’s favorite in the series. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/44MpZkr">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/44MpZkr">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-devil-of-downtown-1?gad_source=1&amp;gclid=EAIaIQobChMIx5jI0cCOhgMV5kpHAR3oDgB5EAAYASAAEgI1vfD_BwE">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-devil-of-downtown/id1485213790">Apple</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780062906854">your local indie</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Happy anniversary to our founding Patreon members — May marks one year of our Patreon and our Discord! We love you a whole lot. Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as we do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Show Notes</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.theverge.com/2024/5/9/24153113/apple-ipad-ad-crushing-apology" target="_blank">Crush</a>, the new apple ad is <a href="https://www.thegamer.com/apple-ipad-pro-crush-commerical-controversy/" target="_blank">honestly so bleak</a>, and the backlash was so extreme that they pulled the ad. <a href="https://twitter.com/kepano/status/1788235755078508690">Look how easily they could have made it cool, though</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The <a href="https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/angela-saini-patriarchy-matriarchy-gender-equality" target="_blank">Matriarchy isn’t just a dream</a>, as it turns out. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.32auctions.com/gazabookauction" target="_blank">The Gaza Evacuation Fund Auction </a>raised $160,000 and it’s not too late to donate to one of the funds of people trying to get to safety. </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We don’t often talk about secondary characters in romance, but this week, we’re talking about the women who provide wisdom, council and laughs in romance—moms, grandmothers and aunties! We talk about the shocking epidemic of orphaned main characters in romance, about how extended family provides nuance in the books, and about our very favorite mothers, grandmothers, aunties and adopted older ladies in books. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thanks to all the women who provide care and sage advice out in the world. We appreciate you.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our next read along is Joanna Shupe’s <a href="https://amzn.to/44MpZkr"><em>The Devil of Downtown</em></a>, from her Uptown Girls trilogy. It’s Jen’s favorite in the series. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/44MpZkr">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/44MpZkr">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-devil-of-downtown-1?gad_source=1&amp;gclid=EAIaIQobChMIx5jI0cCOhgMV5kpHAR3oDgB5EAAYASAAEgI1vfD_BwE">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-devil-of-downtown/id1485213790">Apple</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780062906854">your local indie</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Happy anniversary to our founding Patreon members — May marks one year of our Patreon and our Discord! We love you a whole lot. Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as we do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Show Notes</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.theverge.com/2024/5/9/24153113/apple-ipad-ad-crushing-apology" target="_blank">Crush</a>, the new apple ad is <a href="https://www.thegamer.com/apple-ipad-pro-crush-commerical-controversy/" target="_blank">honestly so bleak</a>, and the backlash was so extreme that they pulled the ad. <a href="https://twitter.com/kepano/status/1788235755078508690">Look how easily they could have made it cool, though</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The <a href="https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/angela-saini-patriarchy-matriarchy-gender-equality" target="_blank">Matriarchy isn’t just a dream</a>, as it turns out. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.32auctions.com/gazabookauction" target="_blank">The Gaza Evacuation Fund Auction </a>raised $160,000 and it’s not too late to donate to one of the funds of people trying to get to safety. </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/5/13/0636-the-matriarch-edition-moms-grandmothers-and-aunties]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:6642a5f07c3cb22eb6eed3b1</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/27feaea5-17d8-4619-9a6b-f350156ecc89/pink-read-along.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2024 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/406d90d0-1f01-4613-a1c4-091749f09c20/fated-mates-matriarchy.mp3" length="72732468" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:10:32</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>36</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>36</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We don’t often talk about secondary characters in romance, but this week, we’re talking about the women who provide wisdom, council and laughs in romance—moms, grandmothers and aunties! We talk about the shocking epidemic of orphaned main characters in romance, about how extended family provides nuance in the books, and about our very favorite mothers, grandmothers, aunties and adopted older ladies in books. 

Thanks to all the women who provide care and sage advice out in the world. We appreciate you.</itunes:summary></item><item><title>S06.35: All About Dukes (in Romance)</title><itunes:title>All About Dukes (in Romance)</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This one is for our historical lovers! We’re talking about everyone’s favorite title — Dukes! We get to the bottom of many duke questions, including: Why so many? Why are they always dukes? What’s wrong with princes? How do these guys make their money anyway? What’s with all the normies inheriting dukedoms? What about duchesses? And more! Please remember that everything we are about to say is romance fact. Don’t @ us with real life fact. We don’t want it. </p><p>Happy anniversary to our founding Patreon members — it’s one year of our Patreon and our Discord today! We love you a whole lot. Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as we do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </p><p>Show Notes</p><p>The tree thing about pollen and allergens is called <a href="https://slate.com/technology/2021/10/botanical-sexism-viral-idea-myth.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">botanical sexism</a> (god it’s everywhere) and this claim, like all things, is complicated.&nbsp;</p><p><a href="https://people.howstuffworks.com/culture-traditions/genealogy/difference-between-duke-and-earl.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Defining the title</a> of duke.&nbsp; What are the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corn_Laws" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">corn laws</a> or the <a href="https://www.parliament.uk/about/living-heritage/transformingsociety/livinglearning/19thcentury/overview/childrenchimneys/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">laws about chimney sweeps</a>? You don’t really care—it’s just fossils.&nbsp;</p><p>The Reformed Rakes podcast had <a href="https://reformedrakes.com/episodes/pregnancy-in-romance-novels" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a recent episode about pregnancy.</a></p><p><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/10/07/why-its-easier-serve-congress-when-youre-rich/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Unites States Congress is comprised of incredibly wealthy people</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>In 2009, <em>Tatler</em> got 10 of the 24 living non-royal dukes to sit down for lunch. <a href="https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1218628/Ten-dukes-dining-Gathered-lunch-unique-picture-grandees-2bn-340-000-acres-them.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">There’s a photo.</a> It’s exactly what you would expect. This 2021 article from <em>Tatler</em> lists <a href="https://www.tatler.com/gallery/eligible-dukes-single-men-aristocrats-to-marry" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the 4 living single dudes</a> that either are or will be a duke.&nbsp;Shoot your shot, ladies.</p><p><strong>Question: has Sarah really written more dukes than fewer?</strong> </p><p><em>A Duke:</em> Eleven Scandals to Start to Win a Duke’s Heart, No Good Duke Goes Unpunished, The Rogue Not Taken, A Scot in the Dark, The Day of the Duchess, Daring and the Duke, Heartbreaker, The Duke of Christmas Present, and A Duke Worth Falling For (9)</p><p><em>Not a Duke:</em> Nine Rules to Break When Romancing a Rake, Ten Ways to be Adored When Landing a Lord, A Rogue by Any Other Name, One Good Earl Deserves a Lover, Never Judge a Lady by Her Cover, Wicked and the Wallflower, Brazen and the Beast,&nbsp;Bombshell, and Knockout (9)</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This one is for our historical lovers! We’re talking about everyone’s favorite title — Dukes! We get to the bottom of many duke questions, including: Why so many? Why are they always dukes? What’s wrong with princes? How do these guys make their money anyway? What’s with all the normies inheriting dukedoms? What about duchesses? And more! Please remember that everything we are about to say is romance fact. Don’t @ us with real life fact. We don’t want it. </p><p>Happy anniversary to our founding Patreon members — it’s one year of our Patreon and our Discord today! We love you a whole lot. Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as we do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </p><p>Show Notes</p><p>The tree thing about pollen and allergens is called <a href="https://slate.com/technology/2021/10/botanical-sexism-viral-idea-myth.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">botanical sexism</a> (god it’s everywhere) and this claim, like all things, is complicated.&nbsp;</p><p><a href="https://people.howstuffworks.com/culture-traditions/genealogy/difference-between-duke-and-earl.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Defining the title</a> of duke.&nbsp; What are the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corn_Laws" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">corn laws</a> or the <a href="https://www.parliament.uk/about/living-heritage/transformingsociety/livinglearning/19thcentury/overview/childrenchimneys/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">laws about chimney sweeps</a>? You don’t really care—it’s just fossils.&nbsp;</p><p>The Reformed Rakes podcast had <a href="https://reformedrakes.com/episodes/pregnancy-in-romance-novels" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a recent episode about pregnancy.</a></p><p><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/10/07/why-its-easier-serve-congress-when-youre-rich/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Unites States Congress is comprised of incredibly wealthy people</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>In 2009, <em>Tatler</em> got 10 of the 24 living non-royal dukes to sit down for lunch. <a href="https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1218628/Ten-dukes-dining-Gathered-lunch-unique-picture-grandees-2bn-340-000-acres-them.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">There’s a photo.</a> It’s exactly what you would expect. This 2021 article from <em>Tatler</em> lists <a href="https://www.tatler.com/gallery/eligible-dukes-single-men-aristocrats-to-marry" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the 4 living single dudes</a> that either are or will be a duke.&nbsp;Shoot your shot, ladies.</p><p><strong>Question: has Sarah really written more dukes than fewer?</strong> </p><p><em>A Duke:</em> Eleven Scandals to Start to Win a Duke’s Heart, No Good Duke Goes Unpunished, The Rogue Not Taken, A Scot in the Dark, The Day of the Duchess, Daring and the Duke, Heartbreaker, The Duke of Christmas Present, and A Duke Worth Falling For (9)</p><p><em>Not a Duke:</em> Nine Rules to Break When Romancing a Rake, Ten Ways to be Adored When Landing a Lord, A Rogue by Any Other Name, One Good Earl Deserves a Lover, Never Judge a Lady by Her Cover, Wicked and the Wallflower, Brazen and the Beast,&nbsp;Bombshell, and Knockout (9)</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/5/7/0635-dukes-dukes-dukes]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:663a4707896da23d87aba43c</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/8c30fd7b-ee12-4d07-92ab-233e80e06675/pink-read-along.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2024 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/43252aeb-00b1-4ea0-9f57-6ad1f24dad0d/fated-mates-all-about-dukes.mp3" length="114746038" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:53:12</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>35</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>35</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><itunes:summary>This one is for our historical lovers! We’re talking about everyone’s favorite title — Dukes! We get to the bottom of many duke questions, including: Why so many? Why are they always dukes? What’s wrong with princes? How do these guys make their money anyway? What’s with all the normies inheriting dukedoms? What about duchesses? And more! Please remember that everything we are about to say is romance fact. Don’t @ us with real life fact. We don’t want it.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-43252aeb-00b1-4ea0-9f57-6ad1f24dad0d.json" type="application/json+chapters"/><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="video/youtube" title="S06.35: All About Dukes (in Romance)"><podcast:source uri="https://youtu.be/RvOGJx5i29w"/></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>S06.34: Marriage in Trouble, the Mercury Retrograde of Romance Novels</title><itunes:title>Marriage in Trouble, the Mercury Retrograde of Romance Novels</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">For our forever favorite, Kate Clayborn, our third Fated Mates Live episode! During the absolutely delightful event (we had so much fun!), Kate selected an interstitial topic that we’ve never tackled, somehow? It’s time for Marriage in Trouble! We talk about the old school bones of the trope, with ingenue wives and the jaded heroes who have to crawl over glass for them, about marriages that carry enormous secrets, the grovel, the heir, and about the threat of divorce motivating men toward being their best selves. Is this good marriage therapy? It is not. Is it good podcasting? It is. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We also want to thank the following publishers and authors for their incredible generosity in making sure that almost every attendee of the Live went home with a romance novel. We are so lucky to share Romancelandia with you: Avon Books, Ballantine Books, Blue Box Press, Dell, Grand Central/Forever, Gallery Books, Lauren Blakely, LJ Evans, Pippa Grant, Ana Huang, Parker S. Huntington &amp; LJ Shen, Elle Kennedy, Avery Maxwell, Ava Miles, Max Monroe, Kathryn Nolan, Amari Nylix, Meghan Quinn, Piper Rayne, P Rayne, Stephanie Rose, Lucy Score, &amp; TL Swan.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you want more discussion of banana-pants romance, <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates">join our Patreon</a> and get access to our Discord, where a thousand other listeners are hanging out and giggling all day long. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Show Notes</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Read Kate Clayborn’s <em>The Other Side of Disappearing</em>, which is a beautiful road trip of a romance that does not have a marriage in trouble but does have a hero who is pure fire.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Sarah used to work for <a href="https://www.astrologyzone.com/">Susan Miller of Astrology Zone</a>, so when she tells you that <a href="https://www.almanac.com/content/mercury-retrograde-dates">Mercury is in retrograde</a>, you better listen. Even if it’s about <a href="https://www.cnn.com/2015/10/31/politics/bush-gore-2000-election-results-studies/index.html">The 2000 election</a>&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Like Jen, you may have thought <a href="https://flo.health/menstrual-cycle/health/symptoms-and-diseases/what-is-septate-hymen-and-hymenectomy">the superhymen was a myth</a>! But now you know better because of romance, Fated Mates Live, and <a href="https://www.meganframpton.com/">Megan Frampton</a>.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">For our forever favorite, Kate Clayborn, our third Fated Mates Live episode! During the absolutely delightful event (we had so much fun!), Kate selected an interstitial topic that we’ve never tackled, somehow? It’s time for Marriage in Trouble! We talk about the old school bones of the trope, with ingenue wives and the jaded heroes who have to crawl over glass for them, about marriages that carry enormous secrets, the grovel, the heir, and about the threat of divorce motivating men toward being their best selves. Is this good marriage therapy? It is not. Is it good podcasting? It is. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We also want to thank the following publishers and authors for their incredible generosity in making sure that almost every attendee of the Live went home with a romance novel. We are so lucky to share Romancelandia with you: Avon Books, Ballantine Books, Blue Box Press, Dell, Grand Central/Forever, Gallery Books, Lauren Blakely, LJ Evans, Pippa Grant, Ana Huang, Parker S. Huntington &amp; LJ Shen, Elle Kennedy, Avery Maxwell, Ava Miles, Max Monroe, Kathryn Nolan, Amari Nylix, Meghan Quinn, Piper Rayne, P Rayne, Stephanie Rose, Lucy Score, &amp; TL Swan.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you want more discussion of banana-pants romance, <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates">join our Patreon</a> and get access to our Discord, where a thousand other listeners are hanging out and giggling all day long. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Show Notes</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Read Kate Clayborn’s <em>The Other Side of Disappearing</em>, which is a beautiful road trip of a romance that does not have a marriage in trouble but does have a hero who is pure fire.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Sarah used to work for <a href="https://www.astrologyzone.com/">Susan Miller of Astrology Zone</a>, so when she tells you that <a href="https://www.almanac.com/content/mercury-retrograde-dates">Mercury is in retrograde</a>, you better listen. Even if it’s about <a href="https://www.cnn.com/2015/10/31/politics/bush-gore-2000-election-results-studies/index.html">The 2000 election</a>&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Like Jen, you may have thought <a href="https://flo.health/menstrual-cycle/health/symptoms-and-diseases/what-is-septate-hymen-and-hymenectomy">the superhymen was a myth</a>! But now you know better because of romance, Fated Mates Live, and <a href="https://www.meganframpton.com/">Megan Frampton</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/4/29/s0634-marriage-in-trouble-romance-novels]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:66303d6995168057bd82d749</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/33149781-bd20-4366-8ccf-8345b1c146bf/pink-read-along.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 01 May 2024 04:38:20 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/264cd2bb-5e5a-4c14-b91a-07aedfcaffd2/marriage-in-trouble-final-normalizedreva.mp3" length="97058822" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:35:15</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>34</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>34</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><itunes:summary>For our forever favorite, Kate Clayborn, our third Fated Mates Live episode! During the absolutely delightful event (we had so much fun!), Kate selected an interstitial topic that we’ve never tackled, somehow? It’s time for Marriage in Trouble! We talk about the old school bones of the trope, with ingenue wives and the jaded heroes who have to crawl over glass for them, about marriages that carry enormous secrets, the grovel, the heir, and about the threat of divorce motivating men toward being their best selves. Is this good marriage therapy? It is not. Is it good podcasting? It is. </itunes:summary></item><item><title>S06.33: A Mug is a Mug until it&apos;s your Boyfriend: Sentient Object Romances</title><itunes:title>A Mug is a Mug Until It&apos;s Your Boyfriend: Sentient Object Romances</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Headphones in! This is not for beginners. Our second Fated Mates Live episode is live! During the event (which was so so fun we love every single one of you who came!), the fabulous Nikki Payne selected one of the most challenging interstitial topics we’ve ever tackled—Inanimate (and sentient!) objects! So! This one is very very odd, and filled with a number of recs that just prove that there is literally something for everyone in this big, beautiful romance pool. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We also want to thank the following publishers and authors for their incredible generosity in making sure that almost every attendee of the Live went home with a romance novel. We are so lucky to share Romancelandia with you: Avon Books, Ballantine Books, Blue Box Press, Dell, Grand Central/Forever, Gallery Books, Lauren Blakely, LJ Evans, Pippa Grant, Ana Huang, Parker S. Huntington &amp; LJ Shen, Elle Kennedy, Avery Maxwell, Ava Miles, Max Monroe, Kathryn Nolan, Amari Nylix, Meghan Quinn, Piper Rayne, P Rayne, Stephanie Rose, Lucy Score, &amp; TL Swan.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you want more discussion of banana-pants romance, <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates">join our Patreon</a> and get access to our Discord, where a thousand other listeners are hanging out and giggling all day long. </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Headphones in! This is not for beginners. Our second Fated Mates Live episode is live! During the event (which was so so fun we love every single one of you who came!), the fabulous Nikki Payne selected one of the most challenging interstitial topics we’ve ever tackled—Inanimate (and sentient!) objects! So! This one is very very odd, and filled with a number of recs that just prove that there is literally something for everyone in this big, beautiful romance pool. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We also want to thank the following publishers and authors for their incredible generosity in making sure that almost every attendee of the Live went home with a romance novel. We are so lucky to share Romancelandia with you: Avon Books, Ballantine Books, Blue Box Press, Dell, Grand Central/Forever, Gallery Books, Lauren Blakely, LJ Evans, Pippa Grant, Ana Huang, Parker S. Huntington &amp; LJ Shen, Elle Kennedy, Avery Maxwell, Ava Miles, Max Monroe, Kathryn Nolan, Amari Nylix, Meghan Quinn, Piper Rayne, P Rayne, Stephanie Rose, Lucy Score, &amp; TL Swan.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you want more discussion of banana-pants romance, <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates">join our Patreon</a> and get access to our Discord, where a thousand other listeners are hanging out and giggling all day long. </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/4/23/s0633-a-mug-is-a-mug-until-its-your-boyfriend-sentient-object-romances]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:662836912264ae5d312edb24</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/1a54939c-023e-403f-aba9-d895a3f5b5f7/final.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2024 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/1ea9b514-1cea-4155-ab96-ad822e0f1ea6/fated-mates-sentinent.mp3" length="60059911" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>56:55</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>33</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>33</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Our second Fated Mates Live episode is live! During the event (which was so so fun we love every single one of you who came!), the fabulous Nikki Payne selected one of the most challenging interstitial topics we’ve ever tackled—Inanimate objects! So! This one is very very odd, and filled with a number of recs that just prove that there is literally something for everyone in this big, beautiful romance pool. </itunes:summary></item><item><title>06.32: Secret Babies, Friends-to-Lovers and More — Books we love with tropes we don’t</title><itunes:title>Secret Babies, Friends-to-Lovers and More — Books we love with tropes we don’t</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">This is the first of three episodes inspired by the incredible time we had at Fated Mates Live in Brooklyn. During the event (which was so so fun we love every single one of you who came!), we asked guests Nikki Payne, Kate Clayborn and Lauren Billings of Christina Lauren to choose an interstitial topic they would like us to tackle on the show. Lauren chose a <em>great</em> one: Exceptions to our rules, meaning…tropes we don’t care for that are done really really well. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">So! This one is for everyone who’s ever asked Jen for Secret Baby or Virgin Heroes and anyone who’s ever asked Sarah for Friends to Lovers or Spies. We talk about the books that make us go…<em>not that…but maybe that?</em> </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We also want to thank the following publishers and authors for their incredible generosity in making sure that almost every attendee of the Live went home with a romance novel. We are so lucky to share Romancelandia with you: Avon Books, Ballantine Books, Blue Box Press, Dell, Grand Central/Forever, Gallery Books, Lauren Blakely, LJ Evans, Pippa Grant, Ana Huang, Parker S. Huntington &amp; LJ Shen, Elle Kennedy, Avery Maxwell, Ava Miles, Max Monroe, Kathryn Nolan, Amari Nylix, Meghan Quinn, Piper Rayne, P Rayne, Stephanie Rose, Lucy Score, &amp; TL Swan.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Photo credits: Stephanie Keith</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Show Notes</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We had the very best time at Fated Mates Live, and it wouldn’t have been nearly as fun without Lauren being there. Christina Lauren’s newest book, <a href="https://amzn.to/3W3fXt4" target="_blank"><em>The Paradise Problem</em></a>, is out May 14th. Preorder it now, and <a href="https://christinalaurenbooks.com/events/" target="_blank">check out their tour schedule</a> to go see them (they’re even more terrific in person) when they’re near you!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://science.nasa.gov/eclipses/types/" target="_blank">Solar eclipses</a> are very cool, and Jen really should have gone home…. as it turns out, 95% is not anything like 100%! If you have the chance, you should go get in that path of totality. Jen’s brother Erik was at his office rooftop in downtown Cleveland and <a href="https://x.com/ejjanas/status/1777418327582707735" target="_blank">saw people getting married</a>, and also took <a href="https://x.com/ejjanas/status/1777418203297202612" target="_blank">a very cool video at totality</a>. <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/x-becomes-earthquake-twitter-users-flood-site-memes-jokes-rcna146494" target="_blank">New York earthquake twitter</a> was pretty funny, too.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Jen, staunchly anti- virgin heroes <a href="https://x.com/JenReadsRomance/status/977024439299837952" target="_blank">since 2018.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Kevin Costner’s speech about <a href="https://youtu.be/pWRCxdh4PTM?si=at7OtPXpryhXvp1r" target="_blank">luck from Bull Durham</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The book about women in the CIA is called The Sisterhood: The Secret History of Women at the CIA by Liza Mundy. </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">This is the first of three episodes inspired by the incredible time we had at Fated Mates Live in Brooklyn. During the event (which was so so fun we love every single one of you who came!), we asked guests Nikki Payne, Kate Clayborn and Lauren Billings of Christina Lauren to choose an interstitial topic they would like us to tackle on the show. Lauren chose a <em>great</em> one: Exceptions to our rules, meaning…tropes we don’t care for that are done really really well. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">So! This one is for everyone who’s ever asked Jen for Secret Baby or Virgin Heroes and anyone who’s ever asked Sarah for Friends to Lovers or Spies. We talk about the books that make us go…<em>not that…but maybe that?</em> </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We also want to thank the following publishers and authors for their incredible generosity in making sure that almost every attendee of the Live went home with a romance novel. We are so lucky to share Romancelandia with you: Avon Books, Ballantine Books, Blue Box Press, Dell, Grand Central/Forever, Gallery Books, Lauren Blakely, LJ Evans, Pippa Grant, Ana Huang, Parker S. Huntington &amp; LJ Shen, Elle Kennedy, Avery Maxwell, Ava Miles, Max Monroe, Kathryn Nolan, Amari Nylix, Meghan Quinn, Piper Rayne, P Rayne, Stephanie Rose, Lucy Score, &amp; TL Swan.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Photo credits: Stephanie Keith</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Show Notes</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We had the very best time at Fated Mates Live, and it wouldn’t have been nearly as fun without Lauren being there. Christina Lauren’s newest book, <a href="https://amzn.to/3W3fXt4" target="_blank"><em>The Paradise Problem</em></a>, is out May 14th. Preorder it now, and <a href="https://christinalaurenbooks.com/events/" target="_blank">check out their tour schedule</a> to go see them (they’re even more terrific in person) when they’re near you!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://science.nasa.gov/eclipses/types/" target="_blank">Solar eclipses</a> are very cool, and Jen really should have gone home…. as it turns out, 95% is not anything like 100%! If you have the chance, you should go get in that path of totality. Jen’s brother Erik was at his office rooftop in downtown Cleveland and <a href="https://x.com/ejjanas/status/1777418327582707735" target="_blank">saw people getting married</a>, and also took <a href="https://x.com/ejjanas/status/1777418203297202612" target="_blank">a very cool video at totality</a>. <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/x-becomes-earthquake-twitter-users-flood-site-memes-jokes-rcna146494" target="_blank">New York earthquake twitter</a> was pretty funny, too.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Jen, staunchly anti- virgin heroes <a href="https://x.com/JenReadsRomance/status/977024439299837952" target="_blank">since 2018.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Kevin Costner’s speech about <a href="https://youtu.be/pWRCxdh4PTM?si=at7OtPXpryhXvp1r" target="_blank">luck from Bull Durham</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The book about women in the CIA is called The Sisterhood: The Secret History of Women at the CIA by Liza Mundy. </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/4/16/0632-secret-babies-spies-and-more-books-we-love-with-tropes-we-dont]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:661ed4df8948d96681375a91</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/f1a9f1f9-6e2e-401f-a5ed-cc77b480cc02/pink-read-along.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2024 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/24e86026-b876-437a-ae77-0b3efe8174df/fated-mates-tropes-we-dont.mp3" length="75520743" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:15:14</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>32</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>32</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><itunes:summary>This is the first of three episodes inspired by the incredible time we had at Fated Mates Live in Brooklyn. During the event (which was so so fun we love every single one of you who came!), we asked guests Nikki Payne, Kate Clayborn and Lauren Billings of Christina Lauren to choose an interstitial topic they would like us to tackle on the show. Lauren chose a great one: Exceptions to our rules, meaning…tropes we don’t care for that are done really really well. 

So! This one is for everyone who’s ever asked Jen for Secret Baby or Virgin Heroes and anyone who’s ever asked Sarah for Friends to Lovers or Spies. We talk about the books that make us go…not that…but maybe that? 

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We also want to thank the following publishers and authors for their incredible generosity in making sure that almost every attendee of the Live went home with a romance novel. We are so lucky to share Romancelandia with you: Avon Books, Ballantine Books, Blue Box Press, Dell, Grand Central/Forever, Gallery Books, Lauren Blakely, LJ Evans, Pippa Grant, Ana Huang, Parker S. Huntington &amp; LJ Shen, Elle Kennedy, Avery Maxwell, Ava Miles, Max Monroe, Kathryn Nolan, Amari Nylix, Meghan Quinn, Piper Rayne, P Rayne, Stephanie Rose, Lucy Score, &amp; TL Swan.</itunes:summary></item><item><title>06.31: Romance Novels and Film Adaptation with Yulin Kuang</title><itunes:title>Romance Novels and Film Adaptation with Yulin Kuang</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">This week, we’re talking about film adaptation and romance novels with Yulin Kuang, filmmaker and romance novelist. We discuss her work as both a screenwriter and director (she’s writing and directing the adaptation of Emily Henry’s <em>Beach Read)</em>, and her debut romance novel, <em>How to End a Love Story</em>, set inside the writers room on a television show between the author of the books the show is adapting (the heroine) and one of the writers in the room (the hero). We talk about why romance adaptations are so difficult to find, why they don’t often hit quite like we expect, and we pitch a few books we’d like to see Hollywood take a crack at. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you just can’t get enough of us, consider joining our Patreon! You get an extra episode of banter every month and access to the Fated Mates discord, full of people who love romance as much as we do. It’s pretty great, we have to say. Learn more at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>.  </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Show Notes</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80991107" target="_blank">Mr. Sunshine</a> is the name of the K-Drama that Jen’s friend Sunhee recommended, but also everyone loves <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crash_Landing_on_You" target="_blank">Crash Landing on You.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you’re in New York City, you can see Sarah and Yulin together in conversation Thursday, April 11, at The Ripped Bodice in Brooklyn. <a href="https://www.therippedbodicela.com/brooklyn-events">Get tickets here.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Find and follow Yulin Kuang <a href="https://www.yulinkuang.com/">at her website</a>. </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">This week, we’re talking about film adaptation and romance novels with Yulin Kuang, filmmaker and romance novelist. We discuss her work as both a screenwriter and director (she’s writing and directing the adaptation of Emily Henry’s <em>Beach Read)</em>, and her debut romance novel, <em>How to End a Love Story</em>, set inside the writers room on a television show between the author of the books the show is adapting (the heroine) and one of the writers in the room (the hero). We talk about why romance adaptations are so difficult to find, why they don’t often hit quite like we expect, and we pitch a few books we’d like to see Hollywood take a crack at. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you just can’t get enough of us, consider joining our Patreon! You get an extra episode of banter every month and access to the Fated Mates discord, full of people who love romance as much as we do. It’s pretty great, we have to say. Learn more at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>.  </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Show Notes</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80991107" target="_blank">Mr. Sunshine</a> is the name of the K-Drama that Jen’s friend Sunhee recommended, but also everyone loves <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crash_Landing_on_You" target="_blank">Crash Landing on You.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you’re in New York City, you can see Sarah and Yulin together in conversation Thursday, April 11, at The Ripped Bodice in Brooklyn. <a href="https://www.therippedbodicela.com/brooklyn-events">Get tickets here.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Find and follow Yulin Kuang <a href="https://www.yulinkuang.com/">at her website</a>. </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/4/8/0631-romance-adaptations-with-yulin-kuang]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:66147859857dd652353bf2b0</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/58185918-9636-43b6-b86d-cf9aec334619/pink-read-along.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 10 Apr 2024 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/7501c18e-2af8-4b55-9fa8-4e57713e4487/fated-mates-yulin-final-reva.mp3" length="80816942" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:19:02</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>31</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>31</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><itunes:summary>This week, we’re talking about film adaptation and romance novels with Yulin Kuang, filmmaker and romance novelist. We discuss her work as both a screenwriter and director (she’s writing and directing the adaptation of Emily Henry’s Beach Read), and her debut romance novel, How to End a Love Story, set inside the writers room on a television show between the author of the books the show is adapting (the heroine) and one of the writers in the room (the hero). We talk about why romance adaptations are so difficult to find, why they don’t often hit quite like we expect, and we pitch a few books we’d like to see Hollywood take a crack at. </itunes:summary></item><item><title>S06:30: Preferential Treatment by Heather Guerre &amp; Alpha Submissive Romance</title><itunes:title>Preferential Treatment by Heather Guerre &amp; Alpha Submissive Romance</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We’re finally diving into alpha submissive romance novels during this deep dive of Heather Guerre’s <em>Preferential Treatment</em>, one of Sarah’s best books of 2022. We’re talking about the way some romances do such immense work today—this one really digging into something that romance usually steers clear of…money. We know money and power are inexorably intertwined, but what does that really mean when relationships are budding, and when sex is on the line? How do power dynamics shift and move, how does money impact our ability to be honest in a relationship, and most importantly, should billionaires exist? All that and we finally get to the bottom of the Alpha submissive kink, why Sarah thinks it’s great, and why it just doesn’t move Jen.</p><p>Oh, and for those of you who’ve been asking for years, Sarah’s doing a mini interstitial in here about books that feature alpha submissives — enjoy! </p><p>Read <em>Preferential Treatment</em> at <a href="https://amzn.to/3UMb1b4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon, or with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li><em>Preferential Treatment</em> was on <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/11/27/s0511-the-best-romance-novels-of-2022" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">our Best of 2022 list.</a></li><li>Preferential treatment is a word used to describe <a href="https://www.levineblit.com/blog/favoritism-in-the-workplace-everything-you-need-to-know/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">unfair labor practices</a>.</li><li>Here are some of the <a href="https://finance.yahoo.com/news/7-money-issues-lead-divorce-110019727.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">most common financial problems</a> in relationships and marriages.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/21348052/mackenzie-bezos-scott-donating-billions-ex-jeff-bezos-amazon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mackenzie Scott’s strategy</a> for <a href="https://apnews.com/article/mackenzie-scott-open-call-yield-giving-bezos-ae809a469080e9e61a945a14a230629e" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">getting rid of money</a> through her foundation, <a href="https://yieldgiving.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Yield Giving</a>. </li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/4/2/s0630-preferential-treatment-by-heather-guerre </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We’re finally diving into alpha submissive romance novels during this deep dive of Heather Guerre’s <em>Preferential Treatment</em>, one of Sarah’s best books of 2022. We’re talking about the way some romances do such immense work today—this one really digging into something that romance usually steers clear of…money. We know money and power are inexorably intertwined, but what does that really mean when relationships are budding, and when sex is on the line? How do power dynamics shift and move, how does money impact our ability to be honest in a relationship, and most importantly, should billionaires exist? All that and we finally get to the bottom of the Alpha submissive kink, why Sarah thinks it’s great, and why it just doesn’t move Jen.</p><p>Oh, and for those of you who’ve been asking for years, Sarah’s doing a mini interstitial in here about books that feature alpha submissives — enjoy! </p><p>Read <em>Preferential Treatment</em> at <a href="https://amzn.to/3UMb1b4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon, or with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li><em>Preferential Treatment</em> was on <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/11/27/s0511-the-best-romance-novels-of-2022" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">our Best of 2022 list.</a></li><li>Preferential treatment is a word used to describe <a href="https://www.levineblit.com/blog/favoritism-in-the-workplace-everything-you-need-to-know/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">unfair labor practices</a>.</li><li>Here are some of the <a href="https://finance.yahoo.com/news/7-money-issues-lead-divorce-110019727.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">most common financial problems</a> in relationships and marriages.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/21348052/mackenzie-bezos-scott-donating-billions-ex-jeff-bezos-amazon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mackenzie Scott’s strategy</a> for <a href="https://apnews.com/article/mackenzie-scott-open-call-yield-giving-bezos-ae809a469080e9e61a945a14a230629e" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">getting rid of money</a> through her foundation, <a href="https://yieldgiving.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Yield Giving</a>. </li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/4/2/s0630-preferential-treatment-by-heather-guerre </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/4/2/s0630-preferential-treatment-by-heather-guerre]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:660be923b5b9987f4cfb2aaa</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2024 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/c2783699-507e-4f53-a1ee-b0911236f7ab/fated-mates-heather-guerre-revc.mp3" length="86971260" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:25:32</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>30</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>30</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We’re finally diving into alpha submissive romance novels during this deep dive of Heather Guerre’s Preferential Treatment, one of Sarah’s best books of 2022. We’re talking about the way some romances do such immense work today—this one really digging into something that romance usually steers clear of…money. We know money and power are inexorably intertwined, but what does that really mean when relationships are budding, and when sex is on the line? How do power dynamics shift and move, how does money impact our ability to be honest in a relationship, and most importantly, should billionaires exist? All that and we finally get to the bottom of the Alpha submissive kink, why Sarah thinks it’s great, and why it just doesn’t move Jen.

Oh, and for those of you who’ve been asking for years, Sarah’s doing a mini interstitial in here about books that feature alpha submissives — enjoy!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-c2783699-507e-4f53-a1ee-b0911236f7ab.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S06.29: Beauty and the Beast Romance Retellings</title><itunes:title>Beauty and the Beast Romance Retellings</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">An absolute classic for a reason, we’re talking about Beauty &amp; the Beast today — about the trope itself, about how the 1991 Disney movie brought it back to life (yes, we see you, Dain), and about why we love the vibe of scarred and broken men in a castle being found and renovated by whip smart, bookish heroines. Spoiler: It’s patriarchy.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you just can’t get enough of us, consider joining our Patreon! You get an extra episode of banter every month and access to the Fated Mates discord, full of people who love romance as much as we do. It’s pretty great, we have to say. Learn more at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Next week, we’re finally getting to Heather Guerre’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3UMb1b4"><em>Preferential Treatment</em></a>, one of Sarah’s favorite romances of 2022. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3UMb1b4">Amazon, or with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thanks for joining us last week at Fated Mates Live!! We had a great time, and it was amazing to see everyone.&nbsp;Thanks for being on this journey with us. Stay tuned for photos and more recaps—and for the recording of the Live, which will be our May 1 episode.  </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We love soundtracks, we played the <a href="https://youtu.be/OiC1rgCPmUQ?si=Mloiqk5wGCIWWy1t">Dua Lipa song from the <em>Barbie</em> soundtrack</a>, and back in the day, the <a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEtZ_fiFa09xXakSRkE2l-KyVZ0wgurUJ&amp;si=U8Wue3-O9FJnWWIq"><em>Pretty in Pink</em> soundtrack</a> was Jen’s jam. Cassette tapes anyone?&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We have talked about <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/2/24/s0327-retellings-in-romance-novels-with-kate-clayborn">romance retellings of all kinds with Kate Clayborn</a>, and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/8/7/s0547-fairy-tales-retellings-with-zoraida-cordova">fairy tale retellings with Zoraida Cordova.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">You can find links to all of the books we discussed at fatedmates.net.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">An absolute classic for a reason, we’re talking about Beauty &amp; the Beast today — about the trope itself, about how the 1991 Disney movie brought it back to life (yes, we see you, Dain), and about why we love the vibe of scarred and broken men in a castle being found and renovated by whip smart, bookish heroines. Spoiler: It’s patriarchy.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you just can’t get enough of us, consider joining our Patreon! You get an extra episode of banter every month and access to the Fated Mates discord, full of people who love romance as much as we do. It’s pretty great, we have to say. Learn more at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Next week, we’re finally getting to Heather Guerre’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3UMb1b4"><em>Preferential Treatment</em></a>, one of Sarah’s favorite romances of 2022. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3UMb1b4">Amazon, or with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thanks for joining us last week at Fated Mates Live!! We had a great time, and it was amazing to see everyone.&nbsp;Thanks for being on this journey with us. Stay tuned for photos and more recaps—and for the recording of the Live, which will be our May 1 episode.  </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We love soundtracks, we played the <a href="https://youtu.be/OiC1rgCPmUQ?si=Mloiqk5wGCIWWy1t">Dua Lipa song from the <em>Barbie</em> soundtrack</a>, and back in the day, the <a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEtZ_fiFa09xXakSRkE2l-KyVZ0wgurUJ&amp;si=U8Wue3-O9FJnWWIq"><em>Pretty in Pink</em> soundtrack</a> was Jen’s jam. Cassette tapes anyone?&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We have talked about <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/2/24/s0327-retellings-in-romance-novels-with-kate-clayborn">romance retellings of all kinds with Kate Clayborn</a>, and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/8/7/s0547-fairy-tales-retellings-with-zoraida-cordova">fairy tale retellings with Zoraida Cordova.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">You can find links to all of the books we discussed at fatedmates.net.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/3/26/s0629-beauty-and-the-beast-romance-retellings]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:6602bd0d72552b22a1dc325c</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/69d2f315-0bd0-4880-8db0-c85a3e68169d/pink-read-along.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 27 Mar 2024 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/54a3f698-8fde-4458-b5d7-5ee953bcaa1a/fated-mates-beauty-and-the-beast.mp3" length="74631875" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:10:18</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>29</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>29</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><itunes:summary>An absolute classic for a reason, we’re talking about Beauty &amp; the Beast today — about the trope itself, about how the 1991 Disney movie brought it back to life (yes, we see you, Dain), and about why we love the vibe of scarred and broken men in a castle being found and renovated by whip smart, bookish heroines. Spoiler: It’s patriarchy.</itunes:summary></item><item><title>S06.28: HEA or GTFO</title><itunes:title>S06.28: HEA or GTFO</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The cornerstone of the genre. The one thing that, when thrown into question, is guaranteed to enrage every corner of Romancelandia. We’re talking about Happily Ever After (HEA). Its promise, its importance, its relevance to us as readers, writers and people in the world. We talk about what really makes it hard won and deserved for us — which means yes, we’re talking about grovels and yes, we’re talking about third act break ups, and yes, we’re talking about patriarchy. Because of course we are. You’ve probably heard us talk about all the books we’re mentioning here…greatest hits are hits for a reason, y’all.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">There are a handful of tickets left for Fated Mates LIVE in Brooklyn, NY, <em>this Saturday, </em>March 23, at the gorgeous William Vale Hotel! Join us, along with Kate Clayborn, Lauren Billings (one-half of Christina Lauren), Nikki Payne, and a roomful of other romance-obsessed listeners for a night of romance shenanigans at a live taping of Fated Mates! While we’re never sure quite how it’s going to go, we can guarantee there will be books, booze and bantr…and you’ll leave full of joy from all the fun. Get Kate’s <em>The Other Side of Disappearing</em> three days early (and books from everyone else!) from The Ripped Bodice—links, tickets and more info are at <a href="http://fatedmates.net/live">fatedmates.net/live</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you just can’t get enough of us, consider joining our Patreon! You get an extra episode of banter every month and access to the Fated Mates discord, full of people who love romance as much as we do. It’s pretty great, we have to say. Learn more at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our next read along is Heather Guerre’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3UMb1b4"><em>Preferential Treatment</em></a>, one of Sarah’s favorite romances of 2022. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3UMb1b4">Amazon, or with your monthly subsc</a> </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Show Notes</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Ope! Jen’s mic wasn’t fully connected for the first 10 minutes of the episode, so that’s why it sounds terrible. User error on her part, Eric would never. Hang in there, she figures it out! <br><br>Let John Green and the good folks at Crash Course teach you about European History and <a href="https://youtu.be/rNCw2MOfnLQ?si=kyVffjj9UgsrZSrO">The Hundred Years’ War.&nbsp;</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.audiopub.org/2024audieawards-winners">The 2024 Audie Award winners</a> included The True Love Experiment for best romance.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Three more days until <a href="https://www.fatedmates.net/live">Fated Mates Live</a>… a handful of tickets are left! Join us! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Looking for all kinds of perfect HEA stickers, <a href="https://www.romancelandiashop.com/">check out the Romancelandia Shop!</a> </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">UPDATE: The book Sarah was looking for when she was talking about Enemies to Lovers was Johanna Lindsey’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3IM3lOU"><em>Prisoner of My Desire</em></a>. All the content warnings, friends…but if you do wade in, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/2/5/65-freewheeling-with-joanna-shupe">don’t miss our chat with Joanna Shupe</a> where we talk about it from Season 1. </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The cornerstone of the genre. The one thing that, when thrown into question, is guaranteed to enrage every corner of Romancelandia. We’re talking about Happily Ever After (HEA). Its promise, its importance, its relevance to us as readers, writers and people in the world. We talk about what really makes it hard won and deserved for us — which means yes, we’re talking about grovels and yes, we’re talking about third act break ups, and yes, we’re talking about patriarchy. Because of course we are. You’ve probably heard us talk about all the books we’re mentioning here…greatest hits are hits for a reason, y’all.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">There are a handful of tickets left for Fated Mates LIVE in Brooklyn, NY, <em>this Saturday, </em>March 23, at the gorgeous William Vale Hotel! Join us, along with Kate Clayborn, Lauren Billings (one-half of Christina Lauren), Nikki Payne, and a roomful of other romance-obsessed listeners for a night of romance shenanigans at a live taping of Fated Mates! While we’re never sure quite how it’s going to go, we can guarantee there will be books, booze and bantr…and you’ll leave full of joy from all the fun. Get Kate’s <em>The Other Side of Disappearing</em> three days early (and books from everyone else!) from The Ripped Bodice—links, tickets and more info are at <a href="http://fatedmates.net/live">fatedmates.net/live</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you just can’t get enough of us, consider joining our Patreon! You get an extra episode of banter every month and access to the Fated Mates discord, full of people who love romance as much as we do. It’s pretty great, we have to say. Learn more at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our next read along is Heather Guerre’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3UMb1b4"><em>Preferential Treatment</em></a>, one of Sarah’s favorite romances of 2022. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3UMb1b4">Amazon, or with your monthly subsc</a> </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Show Notes</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Ope! Jen’s mic wasn’t fully connected for the first 10 minutes of the episode, so that’s why it sounds terrible. User error on her part, Eric would never. Hang in there, she figures it out! <br><br>Let John Green and the good folks at Crash Course teach you about European History and <a href="https://youtu.be/rNCw2MOfnLQ?si=kyVffjj9UgsrZSrO">The Hundred Years’ War.&nbsp;</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.audiopub.org/2024audieawards-winners">The 2024 Audie Award winners</a> included The True Love Experiment for best romance.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Three more days until <a href="https://www.fatedmates.net/live">Fated Mates Live</a>… a handful of tickets are left! Join us! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Looking for all kinds of perfect HEA stickers, <a href="https://www.romancelandiashop.com/">check out the Romancelandia Shop!</a> </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">UPDATE: The book Sarah was looking for when she was talking about Enemies to Lovers was Johanna Lindsey’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3IM3lOU"><em>Prisoner of My Desire</em></a>. All the content warnings, friends…but if you do wade in, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/2/5/65-freewheeling-with-joanna-shupe">don’t miss our chat with Joanna Shupe</a> where we talk about it from Season 1. </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/3/19/s0628-hea-or-gtfo]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:65f9fb87d4ff225a1af91e62</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/1f18ff6d-8de8-4521-bbdd-f78b5f961f21/pink-read-along.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2024 20:54:26 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/cd260af9-ae52-4f84-84dd-d87744ace7bf/fated-mates-hea-or-gtfo.mp3" length="143727629" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>02:19:36</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>29</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>29</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><itunes:summary>The cornerstone of the genre. The one thing that, when thrown into question, is guaranteed to enrage every corner of Romancelandia. We’re talking about Happily Ever After (HEA). Its promise, its importance, its relevance to us as readers, writers and people in the world. We talk about what really makes it hard won and deserved for us — which means yes, we’re talking about grovels and yes, we’re talking about third act break ups, and yes, we’re talking about patriarchy. Because of course we are. You’ve probably heard us talk about all the books we’re mentioning here…greatest hits are hits for a reason, y’all.

There are some audio issues with this one. Sorry, folks! It does get better at about 15 minutes in. </itunes:summary></item><item><title>S06.27: Enemies to Lovers</title><itunes:title>Enemies to Lovers</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>A classic among classics, we’re talking enemies to lovers this week! We get to the bottom of what we think of as “enemies,” and how it differs from “rivals-to-lovers” and “friends-to-enemies-to-lovers” and “friends-to-lovers” (jk, we’ll never understand friends-to-lovers). We revisit some of our very favorite romances, talk about stakes, about impossible situations, and about how sexy hating someone can be. </p><p>If you just can’t get enough of us, consider joining our Patreon! You get an extra episode of banter every month and access to the Fated Mates discord, full of people who love romance as much as we do. It’s pretty great, we have to say. Learn more at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </p><p>Our next read along is Heather Guerre’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3UMb1b4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Preferential Treatment</em></a>, one of Sarah’s favorite romances of 2022. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3UMb1b4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon, or with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Tvzpga" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pandora Ravenel</a> owns a boardgame company, but I don’t think she made <a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-strange-and-mysterious-history-of-the-ouija-board-5860627/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ouija boards.</a> You should watch <a href="https://youtu.be/zLrqyfkXt_A?si=w9YCZ5t5T7BcYea6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Only You (1994)</a>, directed by <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/11/s0505-were-moonstruck-on-our-200th-episode" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Norman Jewison who also directed Moonstruck!</a> Don’t forget how charming <a href="https://youtu.be/eV1IkLvTe1I?si=n4vH8zsEOSenEQ4b" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants</a> is, a very different vibe from <a href="https://youtu.be/QaK6KjaNlPc?si=5TIc0RiFRDPslufj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ripper Street.</a></li><li>Jen thought about Kiss an Angel by Susan Elizabeth Phillips when she read an article about <a href="https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/03/01/brookfield-zoo-chicago-announces-66-million-tropical-forests-for-primates-as-part-of-major-redesign/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the updating of the gorilla enclosure at the Brookfield Zoo.</a> IYKYK, and if you don't, <a href="https://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/learning-the-tropes-a-romance-746475/episodes/kiss-an-angel-by-susan-elizabe-90146378" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">listen to Jen on Learning the Tropes.</a></li><li>Sarah said there's only one friends-to-lovers romance she likes. It's Christina Lauren's <a href="https://amzn.to/49RRCKI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Josh &amp; Hazel's Guide to Not Dating</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/3/12/s0627-enemies-to-lovers-romance </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A classic among classics, we’re talking enemies to lovers this week! We get to the bottom of what we think of as “enemies,” and how it differs from “rivals-to-lovers” and “friends-to-enemies-to-lovers” and “friends-to-lovers” (jk, we’ll never understand friends-to-lovers). We revisit some of our very favorite romances, talk about stakes, about impossible situations, and about how sexy hating someone can be. </p><p>If you just can’t get enough of us, consider joining our Patreon! You get an extra episode of banter every month and access to the Fated Mates discord, full of people who love romance as much as we do. It’s pretty great, we have to say. Learn more at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </p><p>Our next read along is Heather Guerre’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3UMb1b4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Preferential Treatment</em></a>, one of Sarah’s favorite romances of 2022. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3UMb1b4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon, or with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3Tvzpga" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pandora Ravenel</a> owns a boardgame company, but I don’t think she made <a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-strange-and-mysterious-history-of-the-ouija-board-5860627/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ouija boards.</a> You should watch <a href="https://youtu.be/zLrqyfkXt_A?si=w9YCZ5t5T7BcYea6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Only You (1994)</a>, directed by <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/11/s0505-were-moonstruck-on-our-200th-episode" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Norman Jewison who also directed Moonstruck!</a> Don’t forget how charming <a href="https://youtu.be/eV1IkLvTe1I?si=n4vH8zsEOSenEQ4b" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants</a> is, a very different vibe from <a href="https://youtu.be/QaK6KjaNlPc?si=5TIc0RiFRDPslufj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ripper Street.</a></li><li>Jen thought about Kiss an Angel by Susan Elizabeth Phillips when she read an article about <a href="https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/03/01/brookfield-zoo-chicago-announces-66-million-tropical-forests-for-primates-as-part-of-major-redesign/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the updating of the gorilla enclosure at the Brookfield Zoo.</a> IYKYK, and if you don't, <a href="https://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/learning-the-tropes-a-romance-746475/episodes/kiss-an-angel-by-susan-elizabe-90146378" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">listen to Jen on Learning the Tropes.</a></li><li>Sarah said there's only one friends-to-lovers romance she likes. It's Christina Lauren's <a href="https://amzn.to/49RRCKI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Josh &amp; Hazel's Guide to Not Dating</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/3/12/s0627-enemies-to-lovers-romance </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/3/12/s0627-enemies-to-lovers-romance]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:65f0beb788e6d156228bf8b2</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/294cdb2f-251b-4e13-bdff-d255dfe1cd65/pink-read-along.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2024 07:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/03615c6a-9a76-460a-a9c4-3de708731266/fated-mates-enemies-to-lovers.mp3" length="84889331" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:23:08</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>28</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>28</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><itunes:summary>A classic among classics, we’re talking enemies to lovers this week! We get to the bottom of what we think of as “enemies,” and how it differs from “rivals-to-lovers” and “friends-to-enemies-to-lovers” and “friends-to-lovers” (jk, we’ll never understand friends-to-lovers). We revisit some of our very favorite romances, talk about stakes, about impossible situations, and about how sexy hating someone can be.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-03615c6a-9a76-460a-a9c4-3de708731266.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S06.26: Himbos in Romance: The Chris Hemsworth Prototype</title><itunes:title>S06.26: Himbos in Romance: The Chris Hemsworth Prototype</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Sometimes you just have to get to the bottom of something, and that’s what we’re here for. Today, we’re taking an unexpected, unexpectedly thorough at what might be one of the rarest and most maligned heroes in Romancelandia—the Himbo. He’s darling, he’s sweet, and he’s made of nothing but love and abs. Journey with us as we consider the place of these lovable dummies in the pantheon of this great genre of ours.  </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We just released a final 25 tickets to Fated Mates LIVE in Brooklyn, NY, on March 23, at the gorgeous William Vale Hotel! Join us, along with Kate Clayborn, Lauren Billings (one-half of Christina Lauren), Nikki Payne, and a roomful of other romance-obsessed listeners for a night of romance shenanigans at a live taping of Fated Mates! While we’re never sure quite how it’s going to go, we can guarantee there will be books, booze and bantr…and you’ll leave full of joy from all the fun. We’ve even got The Ripped Bodice on hand to sell books, and the room will be available for hanging with other Firebirds after the live! Preorder Kate’s <em>The Other Side of Disappearing</em> three days early (and books from everyone else!) from The Ripped Bodice—links, tickets and more info are at <a href="http://fatedmates.net/live">fatedmates.net/live</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you just can’t get enough of us, consider joining our Patreon! You get an extra episode of banter every month and access to the Fated Mates discord, full of people who love romance as much as we do. It’s pretty great, we have to say. Learn more at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our next read along is Heather Guerre’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3UMb1b4"><em>Preferential Treatment</em></a>, one of Sarah’s favorite romances of 2022. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3UMb1b4">Amazon, or with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Show Notes</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you like <a href="https://collider.com/pride-and-prejudice-matthew-macfadyen-mr-darcy/">Matthew Macfadyen in Pride and Prejudice</a>, perhaps you will also like him on <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/tvandradioblog/2016/oct/14/ripper-street-a-ridiculously-underrated-victorian-thriller">Ripper Street</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Coming to Fated Mates Live this month? Go see <a href="https://hadestown.com/">a musical</a> or <a href="https://illinoiseonstage.com/">a dance performance</a> or <a href="https://www.grubstreet.com/2022/12/best-pizza-neighborhood-williamsburg-nyc.html">eat some pizza</a> when you’re in New York.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Apparently, we’re all talking about himbos, and because of Ken, apparently <a href="https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/2023-was-the-year-of-the-himbo">2023 was the year of the himbo.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">A truly excellent himbo: <a href="https://youtu.be/aGcvpWAhP6I?si=fDG9y28YvVrmjalt">Chris Hemsworth in Ghostbusters</a>.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Sometimes you just have to get to the bottom of something, and that’s what we’re here for. Today, we’re taking an unexpected, unexpectedly thorough at what might be one of the rarest and most maligned heroes in Romancelandia—the Himbo. He’s darling, he’s sweet, and he’s made of nothing but love and abs. Journey with us as we consider the place of these lovable dummies in the pantheon of this great genre of ours.  </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We just released a final 25 tickets to Fated Mates LIVE in Brooklyn, NY, on March 23, at the gorgeous William Vale Hotel! Join us, along with Kate Clayborn, Lauren Billings (one-half of Christina Lauren), Nikki Payne, and a roomful of other romance-obsessed listeners for a night of romance shenanigans at a live taping of Fated Mates! While we’re never sure quite how it’s going to go, we can guarantee there will be books, booze and bantr…and you’ll leave full of joy from all the fun. We’ve even got The Ripped Bodice on hand to sell books, and the room will be available for hanging with other Firebirds after the live! Preorder Kate’s <em>The Other Side of Disappearing</em> three days early (and books from everyone else!) from The Ripped Bodice—links, tickets and more info are at <a href="http://fatedmates.net/live">fatedmates.net/live</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you just can’t get enough of us, consider joining our Patreon! You get an extra episode of banter every month and access to the Fated Mates discord, full of people who love romance as much as we do. It’s pretty great, we have to say. Learn more at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our next read along is Heather Guerre’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3UMb1b4"><em>Preferential Treatment</em></a>, one of Sarah’s favorite romances of 2022. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3UMb1b4">Amazon, or with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Show Notes</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you like <a href="https://collider.com/pride-and-prejudice-matthew-macfadyen-mr-darcy/">Matthew Macfadyen in Pride and Prejudice</a>, perhaps you will also like him on <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/tvandradioblog/2016/oct/14/ripper-street-a-ridiculously-underrated-victorian-thriller">Ripper Street</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Coming to Fated Mates Live this month? Go see <a href="https://hadestown.com/">a musical</a> or <a href="https://illinoiseonstage.com/">a dance performance</a> or <a href="https://www.grubstreet.com/2022/12/best-pizza-neighborhood-williamsburg-nyc.html">eat some pizza</a> when you’re in New York.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Apparently, we’re all talking about himbos, and because of Ken, apparently <a href="https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/2023-was-the-year-of-the-himbo">2023 was the year of the himbo.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">A truly excellent himbo: <a href="https://youtu.be/aGcvpWAhP6I?si=fDG9y28YvVrmjalt">Chris Hemsworth in Ghostbusters</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/3/4/s0626-himbos-in-romance-the-chris-hemsworth-prototype]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:65e677ce52d5a8613b541801</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/2bb6f1b3-7a15-4b48-b230-561352c7c9fb/fmdim.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2024 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/4e700b3b-60b1-48ce-9f4f-7b4c95ada782/fated-mates-himbos-in-romance.mp3" length="91571616" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:29:20</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>26</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>26</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Sometimes you just have to get to the bottom of something, and that’s what we’re here for. Today, we’re taking an unexpected, unexpectedly thorough at what might be one of the rarest and most maligned heroes in Romancelandia—the Himbo. He’s darling, he’s sweet, and he’s made of nothing but love and abs. Journey with us as we consider the place of these lovable dummies in the pantheon of this great genre of ours.  </itunes:summary></item><item><title>S06.25: It&apos;s Romance Law! </title><itunes:title>S06.25: It&apos;s Romance Law!</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Y’all enjoyed Romance Science so much, we figured, why not tackle romance law next! This week, we’re discussing wills and trusts, inheritances, guardianship, and more than a few HR violations! We also begin the episode with an important addendum to Romance Science (apologies to the <em>Passion</em> fans in the crowd).</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">There’s still time for you to join us for Fated Mates LIVE in Brooklyn, NY, at the gorgeous William Vale Hotel, on March 23rd, along with Kate Clayborn, Lauren Billings (one-half of Christina Lauren), Nikki Payne, and a roomful of other romance-obsessed listeners for a night of romance shenanigans at a live taping of Fated Mates! While we’re never sure quite how it’s going to go, we can guarantee there will be books, booze and bantr…and you’ll leave full of joy from all the fun. We’ve even got The Ripped Bodice on hand to sell books, and the room will be available for hanging with other Firebirds after the live! Preorder Kate’s <em>The Other Side of Disappearing</em> three days early (and books from everyone else!) from The Ripped Bodice—links, tickets and more info are at <a href="http://fatedmates.net/live">fatedmates.net/live</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you just can’t get enough of us, consider joining our Patreon! You get an extra episode of banter every month and access to the Fated Mates discord, full of people who love romance as much as we do. It’s pretty great, we have to say. Learn more at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our next read along is Heather Guerre’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3UMb1b4"><em>Preferential Treatment</em></a>, one of Sarah’s favorite romances of 2022. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3UMb1b4">Amazon, or with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Show Notes</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/1/28/0620-its-romance-science">Listen to the Romance Science episode</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://youtu.be/LQe88fhbwR0?si=OEQk4yi12aGs4Re8">Pride &amp; Prejudice</a> won the 2024 romance bracket, hosted by Ali Parker of <a href="https://twitter.com/RomEverAfter">the RomEverAfter Pod.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Romance biology addendum: <a href="https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/body/22718-hymen">the hymen</a>, the <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/1/2/s0419-passion-by-lisa-valdez">Passion episode</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Romance Law probably started with our love of TV Law: <a href="https://youtu.be/DouX9Ubw-Xw?si=x8nb_6PVijTF0n-8">LA Law</a>, <a href="https://youtu.be/xhAzKAyZ5so?si=O9LBh_Caw4S9F2wh">Ally McBeal</a>, <a href="https://youtu.be/U3AR1SfYBkk?si=nQfygNGmGhxTeXSJ">The Good Wife</a>, and <a href="https://youtu.be/lMalvNeJFLk?si=CanpJXQ1N4W5smbq">Law &amp; Order</a>.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Y’all enjoyed Romance Science so much, we figured, why not tackle romance law next! This week, we’re discussing wills and trusts, inheritances, guardianship, and more than a few HR violations! We also begin the episode with an important addendum to Romance Science (apologies to the <em>Passion</em> fans in the crowd).</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">There’s still time for you to join us for Fated Mates LIVE in Brooklyn, NY, at the gorgeous William Vale Hotel, on March 23rd, along with Kate Clayborn, Lauren Billings (one-half of Christina Lauren), Nikki Payne, and a roomful of other romance-obsessed listeners for a night of romance shenanigans at a live taping of Fated Mates! While we’re never sure quite how it’s going to go, we can guarantee there will be books, booze and bantr…and you’ll leave full of joy from all the fun. We’ve even got The Ripped Bodice on hand to sell books, and the room will be available for hanging with other Firebirds after the live! Preorder Kate’s <em>The Other Side of Disappearing</em> three days early (and books from everyone else!) from The Ripped Bodice—links, tickets and more info are at <a href="http://fatedmates.net/live">fatedmates.net/live</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you just can’t get enough of us, consider joining our Patreon! You get an extra episode of banter every month and access to the Fated Mates discord, full of people who love romance as much as we do. It’s pretty great, we have to say. Learn more at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our next read along is Heather Guerre’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3UMb1b4"><em>Preferential Treatment</em></a>, one of Sarah’s favorite romances of 2022. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3UMb1b4">Amazon, or with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Show Notes</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/1/28/0620-its-romance-science">Listen to the Romance Science episode</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://youtu.be/LQe88fhbwR0?si=OEQk4yi12aGs4Re8">Pride &amp; Prejudice</a> won the 2024 romance bracket, hosted by Ali Parker of <a href="https://twitter.com/RomEverAfter">the RomEverAfter Pod.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Romance biology addendum: <a href="https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/body/22718-hymen">the hymen</a>, the <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/1/2/s0419-passion-by-lisa-valdez">Passion episode</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Romance Law probably started with our love of TV Law: <a href="https://youtu.be/DouX9Ubw-Xw?si=x8nb_6PVijTF0n-8">LA Law</a>, <a href="https://youtu.be/xhAzKAyZ5so?si=O9LBh_Caw4S9F2wh">Ally McBeal</a>, <a href="https://youtu.be/U3AR1SfYBkk?si=nQfygNGmGhxTeXSJ">The Good Wife</a>, and <a href="https://youtu.be/lMalvNeJFLk?si=CanpJXQ1N4W5smbq">Law &amp; Order</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/2/26/s0625-its-romance-law]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:65dd325060632937e3baecc2</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/06299b30-ff16-4c28-96b0-45588889dd19/pink-read-along.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2024 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/502e722f-513f-4db5-a581-f5e473b8bc70/fated-mates-romance-law.mp3" length="79821572" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:17:02</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>25</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>25</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Y’all enjoyed Romance Science so much, we figured, why not tackle romance law next! This week, we’re discussing wills and trusts, inheritances, guardianship, and more than a few HR violations! We also begin the episode with an important addendum to Romance Science (apologies to the Passion fans in the crowd).</itunes:summary></item><item><title>S06.24: All Dukes are Roofers: Renovation Romance with Nikki Payne</title><itunes:title>S06.24: All Dukes are Roofers: Renovation Romance with Nikki Payne</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We’re joined this week by the fabulous Nikki Payne, author of Pride &amp; Protest and this month’s new release Sex, Lies &amp; Sensibility to talk about home renovation romance and why we all love it so much! Is it because of competence? Yes. Because we like it when characters have to walk through fire together? Definitely. Because of the metaphor for our lives and futures? Absolutely. We talk about all these things, and how Old School historical really did the business on this trope. And — a bonus! Sarah finally gets to talk with someone about Jane Austen!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Nikki is joining us at Fated Mates Live! Join us in Brooklyn, NY, at the gorgeous William Vale Hotel, on March 23rd, along with Kate Clayborn, Lauren Billings (one-half of Christina Lauren) and a roomful of other romance-obsessed listeners for a night of romance shenanigans at a live taping of Fated Mates! While we’re never sure quite how it’s going to go, we can guarantee there will be books, booze and bantr…and you’ll leave full of joy from all the fun. We’ve even got The Ripped Bodice on hand to sell books, and the room will be available for hanging with other Firebirds after the live! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Preorder Kate’s <em>The Other Side of Disappearing</em> three days early (and books from everyone else!) from The Ripped Bodice—links, tickets and more info are at <a href="http://fatedmates.net/live">fatedmates.net/live</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you just can’t get enough of us, consider joining our Patreon! You get an extra episode of banter every month and access to the Fated Mates discord, full of people who love romance as much as we do. It’s pretty great, we have to say. Learn more at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our next read along is Heather Guerre’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3UMb1b4"><em>Preferential Treatment</em></a>, one of Sarah’s favorite romances of 2022. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3UMb1b4">Amazon, or with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Show Notes</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Welcome <a href="https://www.nikkipaynebooks.com/">Nikki Payne</a>, author of Sex, Lies, and Sensibility. She’ll be at the Ripped Bodice on Feb 23, and at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/live">Fated Mates Live</a>, along with Kate Clayborn, Lauren Billings from Christina Lauren, and a few hundred Magnificent Firebirds on March 23, 2024. You can get signed copies of her books at <a href="https://www.eastcitybookshop.com/">East City Books in DC</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Jen had to read <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Separate_Peace">A Separate Peace</a> in high school and doesn’t have the best memories of it, to be honest.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The mid-90s were a real high tide for Austen adaptions: in 1995 the movies <a href="https://youtu.be/Rked3iy4k-w?si=j9E-O6x3hr3DOw_J">Clueless</a> and <a href="https://youtu.be/bAlKKxuOZx4?si=zg0CS251h0CGI_DH">Sense and Sensibility</a> and a miniseries of <a href="https://youtu.be/ldGUOityoqg?si=RUARdL7uT7R5AMuO">Pride and Prejudice</a>, and the following year the movie <a href="https://youtu.be/lTDaV_Mnq7I?si=stSNLw3KMjvzsSkb">Emma.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">A little bit more about <a href="https://daily.jstor.org/a-bank-of-her-own/">the rights of American women to have their own bank accounts</a>, but women’s <a href="https://www.fastcompany.com/90422353/the-pink-tax-is-real-but-sequins-sparkly-credit-card-for-women-wont-fix-it">access to fair credit</a> is still unjust.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">A few movies we discussed this week: <a href="https://youtu.be/6PH3xFUsih8?si=1f-VygsuhRzZ0s24">The Money Pit</a>, <a href="https://youtu.be/ra13SDePIyc?si=Q7dESLIzPX4ulljN">Something New</a>, and <a href="https://youtu.be/GEB8rnOevpY?si=Vbd1HgVNjT-p_PGW">Baby Boom</a>.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We’re joined this week by the fabulous Nikki Payne, author of Pride &amp; Protest and this month’s new release Sex, Lies &amp; Sensibility to talk about home renovation romance and why we all love it so much! Is it because of competence? Yes. Because we like it when characters have to walk through fire together? Definitely. Because of the metaphor for our lives and futures? Absolutely. We talk about all these things, and how Old School historical really did the business on this trope. And — a bonus! Sarah finally gets to talk with someone about Jane Austen!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Nikki is joining us at Fated Mates Live! Join us in Brooklyn, NY, at the gorgeous William Vale Hotel, on March 23rd, along with Kate Clayborn, Lauren Billings (one-half of Christina Lauren) and a roomful of other romance-obsessed listeners for a night of romance shenanigans at a live taping of Fated Mates! While we’re never sure quite how it’s going to go, we can guarantee there will be books, booze and bantr…and you’ll leave full of joy from all the fun. We’ve even got The Ripped Bodice on hand to sell books, and the room will be available for hanging with other Firebirds after the live! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Preorder Kate’s <em>The Other Side of Disappearing</em> three days early (and books from everyone else!) from The Ripped Bodice—links, tickets and more info are at <a href="http://fatedmates.net/live">fatedmates.net/live</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you just can’t get enough of us, consider joining our Patreon! You get an extra episode of banter every month and access to the Fated Mates discord, full of people who love romance as much as we do. It’s pretty great, we have to say. Learn more at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our next read along is Heather Guerre’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3UMb1b4"><em>Preferential Treatment</em></a>, one of Sarah’s favorite romances of 2022. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3UMb1b4">Amazon, or with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Show Notes</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Welcome <a href="https://www.nikkipaynebooks.com/">Nikki Payne</a>, author of Sex, Lies, and Sensibility. She’ll be at the Ripped Bodice on Feb 23, and at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/live">Fated Mates Live</a>, along with Kate Clayborn, Lauren Billings from Christina Lauren, and a few hundred Magnificent Firebirds on March 23, 2024. You can get signed copies of her books at <a href="https://www.eastcitybookshop.com/">East City Books in DC</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Jen had to read <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Separate_Peace">A Separate Peace</a> in high school and doesn’t have the best memories of it, to be honest.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The mid-90s were a real high tide for Austen adaptions: in 1995 the movies <a href="https://youtu.be/Rked3iy4k-w?si=j9E-O6x3hr3DOw_J">Clueless</a> and <a href="https://youtu.be/bAlKKxuOZx4?si=zg0CS251h0CGI_DH">Sense and Sensibility</a> and a miniseries of <a href="https://youtu.be/ldGUOityoqg?si=RUARdL7uT7R5AMuO">Pride and Prejudice</a>, and the following year the movie <a href="https://youtu.be/lTDaV_Mnq7I?si=stSNLw3KMjvzsSkb">Emma.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">A little bit more about <a href="https://daily.jstor.org/a-bank-of-her-own/">the rights of American women to have their own bank accounts</a>, but women’s <a href="https://www.fastcompany.com/90422353/the-pink-tax-is-real-but-sequins-sparkly-credit-card-for-women-wont-fix-it">access to fair credit</a> is still unjust.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">A few movies we discussed this week: <a href="https://youtu.be/6PH3xFUsih8?si=1f-VygsuhRzZ0s24">The Money Pit</a>, <a href="https://youtu.be/ra13SDePIyc?si=Q7dESLIzPX4ulljN">Something New</a>, and <a href="https://youtu.be/GEB8rnOevpY?si=Vbd1HgVNjT-p_PGW">Baby Boom</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/2/20/s0624-renovation-romance-with-nikki-payne]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:65d4eba0f1ea771eece01fab</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/34d0e439-db5a-40dc-bda8-15fe73bb7646/pink-read-along.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2024 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/ae1aa00d-9658-424c-8f77-0e9bee8bb4a4/fated-mates-renovation-romance.mp3" length="88144142" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:23:08</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>24</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>24</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We’re joined this week by the fabulous Nikki Payne, author of Pride &amp; Protest and this month’s new release Sex, Lies &amp; Sensibility to talk about home renovation romance and why we all love it so much! Is it because of competence? Yes. Because we like it when characters have to walk through fire together? Definitely. Because of the metaphor for our lives and futures? Absolutely. We talk about all these things, and how Old School historical really did the business on this trope. And — a bonus! Sarah finally gets to talk with someone about Jane Austen!</itunes:summary></item><item><title>S06.23: Casinos, Gaming Hells, and Clubs in Romance Novels</title><itunes:title>S06.23: Casinos, Gaming Hells, and Clubs in Romance Novels</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We’re talking about gaming hells! Is it residual Derek Craven love? Probably. Why does Sarah love a casino so much? Why are we so into ladies being wagered by the idiot men in their lives? What makes these places that are so not sexy in real 2024 life so incredibly hot in a) James Bond movies, b) heist movies, and c) historical romances? We’re getting to the bottom of it—or at least, we’re going to talk about books we love. That’s the Fated Mates promise.   </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We’re betting you’re going to love this one! (see what we did there?)</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We also talk about Fated Mates Live! Join us in Brooklyn, NY, at the gorgeous William Vale Hotel, on March 23rd, along with a collection of special guests and a roomful of other romance-obsessed listeners for a night of romance shenanigans at a live taping of Fated Mates! While we’re never sure quite how it’s going to go, we can guarantee there will be books, booze and bantr…and you’ll leave full of joy from all the fun. We’ve even got The Ripped Bodice on hand to sell books, and the room will be available for hanging with other Firebirds after the live! Tickets and info are at <a href="http://fatedmates.net/live">fatedmates.net/live</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you just can’t get enough of us, consider joining our Patreon! You get an extra episode of banter every month and access to the Fated Mates discord, full of people who love romance as much as we do. It’s pretty great, we have to say. Learn more at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our next read along is Heather Guerre’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3UMb1b4"><em>Preferential Treatment</em></a>, one of Sarah’s favorite romances of 2022. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3UMb1b4">Amazon, or with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Show Notes</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Get <a href="https://fatedmates.net/live">Fated Mates Live tickets</a> for March 23, 2024 in Brooklyn.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We think that <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/3/7/s0425-the-waking-up-married-romance-interstitial">waking up married</a> is different than casinos.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://fatedmates.net/derek-craven-day">Derek Craven</a> is of course our favorite casino-owner, but Sarah wrote a <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/series/65529-the-rules-of-scoundrels">pretty famous casino series</a>, too.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">In modern times, <a href="https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/lasvegas-corporate/">casinos are owned by giant conglomerates</a> and they are definitely making a ton of money, Especially this past weekend since the <a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/super-bowl/2024/02/12/super-bowl-58-sports-betting-break-records/72568655007/">Superbowl was in Vegas.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://x.com/wasarobber/status/1757151090544697751?s=20">The Taylor Swift Effect is real.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Have we mentioned that there are <a href="https://www.vulture.com/article/best-gambling-movies-poker.html">lots of movies about casinos</a> out there in the world.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://youtu.be/LQ-3rikUQ34?si=CyDmK-kf-0i9LGAf">“Fuck me gently with a chainsaw”</a> is a reference to Heathers, not a dark romance.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://closingline.substack.com/p/fantasy-vs-house-legality">An explainer about fantasy sports</a> and where they are legal.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">You can join Sarah and Julia Quinn next Tuesday, February 20, online via Zoom. They'll be talking about all things Bridgerton, about romance, about reading and writing, and taking questions! <a href="https://us06web.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_w5EpMMnvTbury5eHZHJ6ZQ#/registration">Register for the free event, sponsored Illinois Libraries Present, and join them!</a></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We’re talking about gaming hells! Is it residual Derek Craven love? Probably. Why does Sarah love a casino so much? Why are we so into ladies being wagered by the idiot men in their lives? What makes these places that are so not sexy in real 2024 life so incredibly hot in a) James Bond movies, b) heist movies, and c) historical romances? We’re getting to the bottom of it—or at least, we’re going to talk about books we love. That’s the Fated Mates promise.   </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We’re betting you’re going to love this one! (see what we did there?)</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We also talk about Fated Mates Live! Join us in Brooklyn, NY, at the gorgeous William Vale Hotel, on March 23rd, along with a collection of special guests and a roomful of other romance-obsessed listeners for a night of romance shenanigans at a live taping of Fated Mates! While we’re never sure quite how it’s going to go, we can guarantee there will be books, booze and bantr…and you’ll leave full of joy from all the fun. We’ve even got The Ripped Bodice on hand to sell books, and the room will be available for hanging with other Firebirds after the live! Tickets and info are at <a href="http://fatedmates.net/live">fatedmates.net/live</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you just can’t get enough of us, consider joining our Patreon! You get an extra episode of banter every month and access to the Fated Mates discord, full of people who love romance as much as we do. It’s pretty great, we have to say. Learn more at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our next read along is Heather Guerre’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3UMb1b4"><em>Preferential Treatment</em></a>, one of Sarah’s favorite romances of 2022. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3UMb1b4">Amazon, or with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Show Notes</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Get <a href="https://fatedmates.net/live">Fated Mates Live tickets</a> for March 23, 2024 in Brooklyn.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We think that <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/3/7/s0425-the-waking-up-married-romance-interstitial">waking up married</a> is different than casinos.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://fatedmates.net/derek-craven-day">Derek Craven</a> is of course our favorite casino-owner, but Sarah wrote a <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/series/65529-the-rules-of-scoundrels">pretty famous casino series</a>, too.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">In modern times, <a href="https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/lasvegas-corporate/">casinos are owned by giant conglomerates</a> and they are definitely making a ton of money, Especially this past weekend since the <a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/super-bowl/2024/02/12/super-bowl-58-sports-betting-break-records/72568655007/">Superbowl was in Vegas.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://x.com/wasarobber/status/1757151090544697751?s=20">The Taylor Swift Effect is real.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Have we mentioned that there are <a href="https://www.vulture.com/article/best-gambling-movies-poker.html">lots of movies about casinos</a> out there in the world.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://youtu.be/LQ-3rikUQ34?si=CyDmK-kf-0i9LGAf">“Fuck me gently with a chainsaw”</a> is a reference to Heathers, not a dark romance.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://closingline.substack.com/p/fantasy-vs-house-legality">An explainer about fantasy sports</a> and where they are legal.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">You can join Sarah and Julia Quinn next Tuesday, February 20, online via Zoom. They'll be talking about all things Bridgerton, about romance, about reading and writing, and taking questions! <a href="https://us06web.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_w5EpMMnvTbury5eHZHJ6ZQ#/registration">Register for the free event, sponsored Illinois Libraries Present, and join them!</a></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/2/13/s0623-casinos-gaming-halls-and-clubs-in-romance-novels]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:65cbee36149f92114df64c2d</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/1ed38a97-3eb8-40e7-820c-944c21b573dc/pink-read-along.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2024 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/147caa59-2a20-4c8e-9314-08b689c64b5b/fated-mates-casinos.mp3" length="79090331" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:19:26</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>23</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>23</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We’re talking about gaming hells! Is it residual Derek Craven love? Probably. Why does Sarah love a casino so much? Why are we so into ladies being wagered by the idiot men in their lives? What makes these places that are so not sexy in real 2024 life so incredibly hot in a) James Bond movies, b) heist movies, and c) historical romances? We’re getting to the bottom of it—or at least, we’re going to talk about books we love. That’s the Fated Mates promise.   

We’re betting you’re going to love this one! (see what we did there?)</itunes:summary></item><item><title>06.22: A Dish Best Served Hot by Natalie Caña</title><itunes:title>A Dish Best Served Hot by Natalie Cana</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We’re so excited for today’s deep dive on Natalie Caña’s A Dish Best Served Hot — a sexy, second-chance romance that gave us so many feelings, including delight that Natalie is at the very beginning of her romance writing career! Here we talk about taking big swings in romance, about telling love stories against the backdrop of real life issues, and about how this book’s ending might be the closest thing to Kleypas we’ve read in a long time. Get the book at <a href="https://amzn.to/41O202Z" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-dish-best-served-hot-natalie-ca-a/1142184250" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/a-dish-best-served-hot/id6443344161" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/a-dish-best-served-hot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780778333500" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>. </p><p>We also talk about Fated Mates Live! Join us in Brooklyn, NY, at the gorgeous William Vale Hotel, on March 23rd! Join us along with a collection of special guests and a roomful of other romance-obsessed listeners for a night of romance shenanigans at a live taping of Fated Mates! While we’re never sure quite how it’s going to go, we can guarantee there will be books, booze and bantr…and you’ll leave full of joy from all the fun. We’ve even got The Ripped Bodice on hand to sell books, and the room will be available for hanging with other Firebirds after the live! Tickets and info are at <a href="http://fatedmates.net/live" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/live</a>.</p><p>If you just can’t get enough of us, consider joining our Patreon! You get an extra episode of banter every month and access to the Fated Mates discord, full of people who love romance as much as we do. It’s pretty great, we have to say. Learn more at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>On March 16 2024, <a href="https://fppl.evanced.info/signup/EventDetails?EventId=22093&amp;backTo=Calendar&amp;startDate=2024%2F03%2F01" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen will be at the Forest Park Library for an event called Book Buzz. Use this link to register.</a> It’s all about romance, and Natalie Cana, Nicole Falls, and local Forest Parker Maria Monroe.</li><li><a href="https://www.disabilitysupportguide.com.au/information/article/mutism-and-selective-mutism-explained" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Selective mutism</a> is a type of anxiety disorder.</li><li><a href="https://chicagostudies.uchicago.edu/humboldt-park/humboldt-park-history-humboldt-park" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Humboldt Park is a Chicago neighborhood</a> that has been ethnically Latine with the <a href="https://blockclubchicago.org/2022/07/21/humboldt-parks-puerto-rican-flags-are-officially-chicago-landmarks/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">largest Puerto Rican population in the city</a>, for a long time. <a href="https://prcc-chgo.org/2021/07/03/gentrifiers-latest-attack-affordable-housing-in-humboldt-park/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The gentrification described in the book is a real problem facing the neighborhood</a>. If you were inspired by this story, you can support <a href="https://www.lacasanorte.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">La Case Norte</a>, a real Humboldt Park organization that supports homeless teenagers.</li><li>This whole <a href="https://youtu.be/0NUoNnX045A?si=sCigBtkzQ_-mdO76" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Arrested Development thing about Army</a> was very funny, just trust us.</li><li><a href="https://www.today.com/parents/dads/dwayne-rock-johnson-tea-party-daughter-tiana-moana-rcna31025" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Rock having a tea party </a>with his daughter is very adorable.</li><li>February romance articles are coming, <a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/news-and-features/articles/13-romance-authors-making-space-in-the-genre/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">including one written by Jen for Kirkus.</a></li><li>You can <a href="https://oakpark.librarycalendar.com/event/virtual-illinois-libraries-present-romance-regency-bridgertons-julia-quinn-64278" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sign up for the virtual conversation with Sarah and Julia Quinn,</a> hosted by the Illinois Libraries (which includes Oak Park) on Feb 20th, 2024.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/2/6/0622-a-dish-best-served-hot-by-natalie-cana </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We’re so excited for today’s deep dive on Natalie Caña’s A Dish Best Served Hot — a sexy, second-chance romance that gave us so many feelings, including delight that Natalie is at the very beginning of her romance writing career! Here we talk about taking big swings in romance, about telling love stories against the backdrop of real life issues, and about how this book’s ending might be the closest thing to Kleypas we’ve read in a long time. Get the book at <a href="https://amzn.to/41O202Z" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-dish-best-served-hot-natalie-ca-a/1142184250" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/a-dish-best-served-hot/id6443344161" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/a-dish-best-served-hot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780778333500" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>. </p><p>We also talk about Fated Mates Live! Join us in Brooklyn, NY, at the gorgeous William Vale Hotel, on March 23rd! Join us along with a collection of special guests and a roomful of other romance-obsessed listeners for a night of romance shenanigans at a live taping of Fated Mates! While we’re never sure quite how it’s going to go, we can guarantee there will be books, booze and bantr…and you’ll leave full of joy from all the fun. We’ve even got The Ripped Bodice on hand to sell books, and the room will be available for hanging with other Firebirds after the live! Tickets and info are at <a href="http://fatedmates.net/live" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/live</a>.</p><p>If you just can’t get enough of us, consider joining our Patreon! You get an extra episode of banter every month and access to the Fated Mates discord, full of people who love romance as much as we do. It’s pretty great, we have to say. Learn more at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>On March 16 2024, <a href="https://fppl.evanced.info/signup/EventDetails?EventId=22093&amp;backTo=Calendar&amp;startDate=2024%2F03%2F01" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen will be at the Forest Park Library for an event called Book Buzz. Use this link to register.</a> It’s all about romance, and Natalie Cana, Nicole Falls, and local Forest Parker Maria Monroe.</li><li><a href="https://www.disabilitysupportguide.com.au/information/article/mutism-and-selective-mutism-explained" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Selective mutism</a> is a type of anxiety disorder.</li><li><a href="https://chicagostudies.uchicago.edu/humboldt-park/humboldt-park-history-humboldt-park" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Humboldt Park is a Chicago neighborhood</a> that has been ethnically Latine with the <a href="https://blockclubchicago.org/2022/07/21/humboldt-parks-puerto-rican-flags-are-officially-chicago-landmarks/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">largest Puerto Rican population in the city</a>, for a long time. <a href="https://prcc-chgo.org/2021/07/03/gentrifiers-latest-attack-affordable-housing-in-humboldt-park/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The gentrification described in the book is a real problem facing the neighborhood</a>. If you were inspired by this story, you can support <a href="https://www.lacasanorte.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">La Case Norte</a>, a real Humboldt Park organization that supports homeless teenagers.</li><li>This whole <a href="https://youtu.be/0NUoNnX045A?si=sCigBtkzQ_-mdO76" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Arrested Development thing about Army</a> was very funny, just trust us.</li><li><a href="https://www.today.com/parents/dads/dwayne-rock-johnson-tea-party-daughter-tiana-moana-rcna31025" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Rock having a tea party </a>with his daughter is very adorable.</li><li>February romance articles are coming, <a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/news-and-features/articles/13-romance-authors-making-space-in-the-genre/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">including one written by Jen for Kirkus.</a></li><li>You can <a href="https://oakpark.librarycalendar.com/event/virtual-illinois-libraries-present-romance-regency-bridgertons-julia-quinn-64278" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sign up for the virtual conversation with Sarah and Julia Quinn,</a> hosted by the Illinois Libraries (which includes Oak Park) on Feb 20th, 2024.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/2/6/0622-a-dish-best-served-hot-by-natalie-cana </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/2/6/0622-a-dish-best-served-hot-by-natalie-cana]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:65c2471bc8a4c1273ed71900</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2024 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/6ce8005d-0cff-45cc-8afa-aab48bf31712/fated-mates-a-dish-best-served-hot.mp3" length="112145340" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:53:56</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>22</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>22</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We’re so excited for today’s deep dive on Natalie Caña’s A Dish Best Served Hot — a sexy, second-chance romance that gave us so many feelings, including delight that Natalie is at the very beginning of her romance writing career! Here we talk about taking big swings in romance, about telling love stories against the backdrop of real life issues, and about how this book’s ending might be the closest thing to Kleypas we’ve read in a long time.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-6ce8005d-0cff-45cc-8afa-aab48bf31712.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>06.21: Derek Craven Day 2024 : Heroes who Yearn with Sanj</title><itunes:title>06.21: Derek Craven Day 2024 : Heroes who Yearn with Sanj</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It’s February which means it’s time for the biggest holiday in romance — Derek Craven Day! We’re so thrilled to be able to celebrate this remarkable man—born in a drainpipe, named himself, turned to a life of spectacle stealing—with all of you! This year, we’re so excited to have friend of the pod and of Cravens, Sanjana (follow her on TikTok at baskinsuns), to chat with us about her landmark research: A Comprehensive Categorization of Kleypas Heroes. We laugh, we get serious, and yes, we even talk about Zachary Bronson. — calm down, Bronsonettes. </p><p>Also — it just feels right that we’re announcing Fated Mates Live on Derek Craven Day! Join us in Brooklyn, NY, at the gorgeous William Vale Hotel, on March 23rd! Join us along with a collection of special guests and a roomful of other romance-obsessed listeners for a night of romance shenanigans at a live taping of Fated Mates! While we’re never sure quite how it’s going to go, we can guarantee there will be books, booze and bantr…and you’ll leave full of joy from all the fun. We’ve even got The Ripped Bodice on hand to sell books, and the room will be available for hanging with other Firebirds after the live! Tickets and info are at <a href="http://fatedmates.net/live" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/live</a>.</p><p>Next week, we’re deep diving on Natalie Caña’s <em>A Dish Best Served Hot</em>. Find it at <a href="https://amzn.to/41O202Z" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-dish-best-served-hot-natalie-ca-a/1142184250" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/a-dish-best-served-hot/id6443344161" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/a-dish-best-served-hot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780778333500" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>. </p><p>If you just can’t get enough of us, consider joining our Patreon! You get an extra episode of banter every month and access to the Fated Mates discord, full of people who love romance as much as we do. It’s pretty great, we have to say. Learn more at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome Sanj. You can find her <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@baskinsuns" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">on TikTok</a> or <a href="https://twitter.com/baskinsuns" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twitter</a>. Her “Comprehensive Categorization of Kleypas Heroes” below went through several iterations during the pandemic, you're looking at v4. Lots of people have organized their thoughts about Kleypas characters, we also <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1359889449514057731" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">liked this one that’s a Venn Diagram.</a></li><li>Kate Clayborn joined us in 2021 to address a deeply silly list of questions and scenarios submitted by Magnificent Firebirds. It is absolutely worth a <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/1/31/s0324-derek-craven-day-reveals-that-were-going-through-some-things" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">second listen</a>. </li><li>In 2023, we dropped<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/2/3/s0521-thats-so-derek-craven" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> That’s So Craven</a>. And then there’s our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/9/24/s021-lisa-kleypas-does-spectacles-better-than-f-scott-fitzgerald-dreaming-of-you" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dreaming of You read along</a>. </li><li>If you’re looking for hard data about what Derek Craven would or would never do, or just want to browse some absurd memes, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/derek-craven-day" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the official Derek Craven Day master page</a> has you covered. There are a few new memes this year and an answer to an important new question about Derek shopping at Winterborne’s. </li><li>Finally, the <a href="https://youtu.be/hKSqqJ59DpY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">YouTube version</a> of the 2021 Derek Craven Day episode will light up any display from phone to TV with an exhaustive list of Derek Creaven would/never scenarios. You can turn down the sound and just have it loop all day long. It’s very possible that only Eric thinks this is a good idea, but you never know. </li><li>Oh, and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/derekcravenwouldnever" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this</a>. </li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s February which means it’s time for the biggest holiday in romance — Derek Craven Day! We’re so thrilled to be able to celebrate this remarkable man—born in a drainpipe, named himself, turned to a life of spectacle stealing—with all of you! This year, we’re so excited to have friend of the pod and of Cravens, Sanjana (follow her on TikTok at baskinsuns), to chat with us about her landmark research: A Comprehensive Categorization of Kleypas Heroes. We laugh, we get serious, and yes, we even talk about Zachary Bronson. — calm down, Bronsonettes. </p><p>Also — it just feels right that we’re announcing Fated Mates Live on Derek Craven Day! Join us in Brooklyn, NY, at the gorgeous William Vale Hotel, on March 23rd! Join us along with a collection of special guests and a roomful of other romance-obsessed listeners for a night of romance shenanigans at a live taping of Fated Mates! While we’re never sure quite how it’s going to go, we can guarantee there will be books, booze and bantr…and you’ll leave full of joy from all the fun. We’ve even got The Ripped Bodice on hand to sell books, and the room will be available for hanging with other Firebirds after the live! Tickets and info are at <a href="http://fatedmates.net/live" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net/live</a>.</p><p>Next week, we’re deep diving on Natalie Caña’s <em>A Dish Best Served Hot</em>. Find it at <a href="https://amzn.to/41O202Z" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-dish-best-served-hot-natalie-ca-a/1142184250" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/a-dish-best-served-hot/id6443344161" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/a-dish-best-served-hot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780778333500" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>. </p><p>If you just can’t get enough of us, consider joining our Patreon! You get an extra episode of banter every month and access to the Fated Mates discord, full of people who love romance as much as we do. It’s pretty great, we have to say. Learn more at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome Sanj. You can find her <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@baskinsuns" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">on TikTok</a> or <a href="https://twitter.com/baskinsuns" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twitter</a>. Her “Comprehensive Categorization of Kleypas Heroes” below went through several iterations during the pandemic, you're looking at v4. Lots of people have organized their thoughts about Kleypas characters, we also <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1359889449514057731" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">liked this one that’s a Venn Diagram.</a></li><li>Kate Clayborn joined us in 2021 to address a deeply silly list of questions and scenarios submitted by Magnificent Firebirds. It is absolutely worth a <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/1/31/s0324-derek-craven-day-reveals-that-were-going-through-some-things" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">second listen</a>. </li><li>In 2023, we dropped<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/2/3/s0521-thats-so-derek-craven" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> That’s So Craven</a>. And then there’s our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/9/24/s021-lisa-kleypas-does-spectacles-better-than-f-scott-fitzgerald-dreaming-of-you" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dreaming of You read along</a>. </li><li>If you’re looking for hard data about what Derek Craven would or would never do, or just want to browse some absurd memes, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/derek-craven-day" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the official Derek Craven Day master page</a> has you covered. There are a few new memes this year and an answer to an important new question about Derek shopping at Winterborne’s. </li><li>Finally, the <a href="https://youtu.be/hKSqqJ59DpY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">YouTube version</a> of the 2021 Derek Craven Day episode will light up any display from phone to TV with an exhaustive list of Derek Creaven would/never scenarios. You can turn down the sound and just have it loop all day long. It’s very possible that only Eric thinks this is a good idea, but you never know. </li><li>Oh, and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/derekcravenwouldnever" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this</a>. </li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/2/3/0621-derek-craven-day-2024]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:65bec0ad2fa0a6617be99e78</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/f42bcf96-389b-4b85-b90a-1a90b3059d3d/pink-read-along.jpg"/><pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2024 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/9bca411a-81f2-4905-afe9-de9adb8a53e7/fated-mates-derek-craven-day-2024-revb.mp3" length="92039493" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:34:26</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>21</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>21</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><itunes:summary>It’s February which means it’s time for the biggest holiday in romance — Derek Craven Day! We’re so thrilled to be able to celebrate this remarkable man—born in a drainpipe, named himself, turned to a life of spectacle stealing—with all of you! This year, we’re so excited to have friend of the pod and of Cravens, Sanjana (follow her on TikTok at baskinsuns), to chat with us about her landmark research: A Comprehensive Categorization of Kleypas Heroes. We laugh, we get serious, and yes, we even talk about Zachary Bronson. — calm down, Bronsonettes. 

Also — it just feels right that we’re announcing Fated Mates Live on Derek Craven Day! Join us in Brooklyn, NY, at the gorgeous William Vale Hotel, on March 23rd! Join us along with a collection of special guests and a roomful of other romance-obsessed listeners for a night of romance shenanigans at a live taping of Fated Mates! While we’re never sure quite how it’s going to go, we can guarantee there will be books, booze and bantr…and you’ll leave full of joy from all the fun. We’ve even got The Ripped Bodice on hand to sell books, and the room will be available for hanging with other Firebirds after the live! Tickets and info are at fatedmates.net/live.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-9bca411a-81f2-4905-afe9-de9adb8a53e7.json" type="application/json+chapters"/><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="video/youtube" title="06.21: Derek Craven Day 2024 : Heroes who Yearn with Sanj"><podcast:source uri="https://youtu.be/BJTLVXO4318"/></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>06.20: It&apos;s Romance Science! </title><itunes:title>06.20: It&apos;s Romance Science!</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">This one is probably as goofy as we get — we’ve spent six years talking about Romance Science, and now class is in session! We’re talking biology, human physiology, astronomy, neurology, urology, gynecology, obstetrics and dermatology. Basically, we’ve studied this enough to hold multiple MDs &amp; PhDs. If we’re ever on a plane and someone needs a doctor, we’re volunteering. Love doctors count, right? We hope you enjoy listening as much as we enjoyed recording.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our first read along of 2024 is Natalie Caña’s A Dish Best Served Hot. Find it at <a href="https://amzn.to/41O202Z">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-dish-best-served-hot-natalie-ca-a/1142184250">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/a-dish-best-served-hot/id6443344161">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/a-dish-best-served-hot">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780778333500">your local indie</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you just can’t get enough of us, consider joining our Patreon! You get an extra episode of banter every month and access to the Fated Mates discord, full of people who love romance as much as we do. It’s pretty great, we have to say. Learn more at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Show Notes</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://people.com/sports/all-about-brothers-travis-kelce-jason-kelce/">Two brothers who are both in the NFL</a>, that’s romance science. <a href="https://www.etonline.com/kylie-kelce-jokes-about-her-conflicting-personalities-with-funny-mugs-218822">Kylie Kelce seems pretty cool</a>. Too bad we missed her book.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">On twitter, you can check out the <a href="https://twitter.com/RomanceSmells">Male Scent Catalog</a>, and Jen has talked about <a href="https://x.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1041453760738992129?s=20">this flower thing</a>, too.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Conveniently, Jen wrote a review of <a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2017/11/throwback-thursday-double-review-very.html">the book where that guy had Periwinkle eyes</a>, it was called A Very Private Love by Melinda Cross.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palazzo_pants">What are Palazzo pants</a>, you might be wondering.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">When it comes to superheroes, <a href="https://bloodknife.com/everyone-beautiful-no-one-horny/">everyone is beautiful and no one is horny</a>. Believe it or not, that’s not even how we ended up on <a href="https://www.polygon.com/2017/9/4/16252100/superman-christopher-reeve-clark-kent-transformation">Christopher Reeve as Superman.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">You should definitely <a href="https://health.clevelandclinic.org/peeing-after-sex">pee after sex if you have a vagina.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">There is a huge <a href="https://flowingdata.com/2020/07/16/a-million-dollars-vs-a-billion-visualized-with-a-road-trip/">difference between a million and a billion</a>, or here’s [another way] to see it<a href="https://x.com/DavidOAtkins/status/1172334700645404673?s=20">11</a>, or <a href="https://x.com/DavidOAtkins/status/1172334700645404673?s=20">another way</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://amzn.to/3OkX3sX">Jen is obsessed with lens wipes</a>, and you will be, too, if you try them.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">This one is probably as goofy as we get — we’ve spent six years talking about Romance Science, and now class is in session! We’re talking biology, human physiology, astronomy, neurology, urology, gynecology, obstetrics and dermatology. Basically, we’ve studied this enough to hold multiple MDs &amp; PhDs. If we’re ever on a plane and someone needs a doctor, we’re volunteering. Love doctors count, right? We hope you enjoy listening as much as we enjoyed recording.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our first read along of 2024 is Natalie Caña’s A Dish Best Served Hot. Find it at <a href="https://amzn.to/41O202Z">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-dish-best-served-hot-natalie-ca-a/1142184250">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/a-dish-best-served-hot/id6443344161">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/a-dish-best-served-hot">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780778333500">your local indie</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you just can’t get enough of us, consider joining our Patreon! You get an extra episode of banter every month and access to the Fated Mates discord, full of people who love romance as much as we do. It’s pretty great, we have to say. Learn more at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Show Notes</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://people.com/sports/all-about-brothers-travis-kelce-jason-kelce/">Two brothers who are both in the NFL</a>, that’s romance science. <a href="https://www.etonline.com/kylie-kelce-jokes-about-her-conflicting-personalities-with-funny-mugs-218822">Kylie Kelce seems pretty cool</a>. Too bad we missed her book.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">On twitter, you can check out the <a href="https://twitter.com/RomanceSmells">Male Scent Catalog</a>, and Jen has talked about <a href="https://x.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1041453760738992129?s=20">this flower thing</a>, too.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Conveniently, Jen wrote a review of <a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2017/11/throwback-thursday-double-review-very.html">the book where that guy had Periwinkle eyes</a>, it was called A Very Private Love by Melinda Cross.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palazzo_pants">What are Palazzo pants</a>, you might be wondering.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">When it comes to superheroes, <a href="https://bloodknife.com/everyone-beautiful-no-one-horny/">everyone is beautiful and no one is horny</a>. Believe it or not, that’s not even how we ended up on <a href="https://www.polygon.com/2017/9/4/16252100/superman-christopher-reeve-clark-kent-transformation">Christopher Reeve as Superman.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">You should definitely <a href="https://health.clevelandclinic.org/peeing-after-sex">pee after sex if you have a vagina.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">There is a huge <a href="https://flowingdata.com/2020/07/16/a-million-dollars-vs-a-billion-visualized-with-a-road-trip/">difference between a million and a billion</a>, or here’s [another way] to see it<a href="https://x.com/DavidOAtkins/status/1172334700645404673?s=20">11</a>, or <a href="https://x.com/DavidOAtkins/status/1172334700645404673?s=20">another way</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://amzn.to/3OkX3sX">Jen is obsessed with lens wipes</a>, and you will be, too, if you try them.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/1/28/0620-its-romance-science]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:65b6a623dc033275f348aef5</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/89a41dcd-4d9b-469d-9f77-c014b9df9f67/pink-read-along.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2024 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/d5f9787d-9efd-4e83-ba7b-10169e7d3b4f/fated-mates-romance-science-reva.mp3" length="66502514" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:08:12</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>20</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>20</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><itunes:summary>This one is probably as goofy as we get — we’ve spent six years talking about Romance Science, and now class is in session! We’re talking biology, human physiology, astronomy, neurology, urology, gynecology, obstetrics and dermatology. Basically, we’ve studied this enough to hold multiple MDs &amp; PhDs. If we’re ever on a plane and someone needs a doctor, we’re volunteering. Love doctors count, right? We hope you enjoy listening as much as we enjoyed recording.</itunes:summary></item><item><title>S06.19: One Night Stands</title><itunes:title>S06.19: One Night Stands</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">It seems impossible that we haven’t done this one, but we haven’t done this one! We’re talking one night stands—the absolute classic that ends up being a part of so many chaotic, wonderful romances. We’re talking about how they work, why its so important for them to make sense in the context of the story, and how the best authors inject emotion into one life-changing moment (often) early in the book. Enjoy!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our first read along of 2024 is Natalie Caña’s A Dish Best Served Hot. Find it at <a href="https://amzn.to/41O202Z">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-dish-best-served-hot-natalie-ca-a/1142184250">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/a-dish-best-served-hot/id6443344161">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/a-dish-best-served-hot">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780778333500">your local indie</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you just can’t get enough of us, consider joining our Patreon! You get an extra episode of banter every month and access to the Fated Mates discord, full of people who love romance as much as we do. It’s pretty great, we have to say. Learn more at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Show Notes</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">It’s the most wonderful time of the year: the The rom com brackets are out, hosted by <a href="https://twitter.com/allieiswriting">Allie Parker</a> of the <a href="https://twitter.com/RomEverAfter">RomEverAfterPod.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://amzn.to/48I3bU5">Joy Ride</a> was a great movie, even if Jen bungled the plot description. She was excited, okay!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Sarah and Jen have been doing some other fun reading. Sarah read Jess K Hardy’s forthcoming <a href="https://amzn.to/3OeMUhw">Lips Like Sugar</a> and she also got some cool paperbacks from the inlaws: <a href="https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/A1VJ0Wlf3+L._AC_UF1000,1000_QL80_.jpg">Gift of Fire</a> and <a href="https://pictures.abebooks.com/isbn/9780445203365-us.jpg">A Coral Kiss</a> by Jayne Ann Krentz along with Nora Roberts’ Charmed. Jen and Ernie were reading <a href="https://amzn.to/3HrZC8K">Reacher short stories</a>.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">It seems impossible that we haven’t done this one, but we haven’t done this one! We’re talking one night stands—the absolute classic that ends up being a part of so many chaotic, wonderful romances. We’re talking about how they work, why its so important for them to make sense in the context of the story, and how the best authors inject emotion into one life-changing moment (often) early in the book. Enjoy!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our first read along of 2024 is Natalie Caña’s A Dish Best Served Hot. Find it at <a href="https://amzn.to/41O202Z">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-dish-best-served-hot-natalie-ca-a/1142184250">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/a-dish-best-served-hot/id6443344161">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/a-dish-best-served-hot">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780778333500">your local indie</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you just can’t get enough of us, consider joining our Patreon! You get an extra episode of banter every month and access to the Fated Mates discord, full of people who love romance as much as we do. It’s pretty great, we have to say. Learn more at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Show Notes</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">It’s the most wonderful time of the year: the The rom com brackets are out, hosted by <a href="https://twitter.com/allieiswriting">Allie Parker</a> of the <a href="https://twitter.com/RomEverAfter">RomEverAfterPod.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://amzn.to/48I3bU5">Joy Ride</a> was a great movie, even if Jen bungled the plot description. She was excited, okay!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Sarah and Jen have been doing some other fun reading. Sarah read Jess K Hardy’s forthcoming <a href="https://amzn.to/3OeMUhw">Lips Like Sugar</a> and she also got some cool paperbacks from the inlaws: <a href="https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/A1VJ0Wlf3+L._AC_UF1000,1000_QL80_.jpg">Gift of Fire</a> and <a href="https://pictures.abebooks.com/isbn/9780445203365-us.jpg">A Coral Kiss</a> by Jayne Ann Krentz along with Nora Roberts’ Charmed. Jen and Ernie were reading <a href="https://amzn.to/3HrZC8K">Reacher short stories</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/1/23/s0619-one-night-stands]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:65aff0d52f7f8d74be6afae1</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/59370a0b-f596-4356-986b-4d70c40915e2/pink-read-along.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2024 05:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/77b49519-1dc0-4eae-b25b-fbb45714d4f8/fated-mates-one-night-stands.mp3" length="73522753" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:10:00</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>19</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>19</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><itunes:summary>It seems impossible that we haven’t done this one, but we haven’t done this one! We’re talking one night stands—the absolute classic that ends up being a part of so many chaotic, wonderful romances. We’re talking about how they work, why its so important for them to make sense in the context of the story, and how the best authors inject emotion into one life-changing moment (often) early in the book. Enjoy!</itunes:summary></item><item><title>S06.18: Firefighter Romance Novels</title><itunes:title>S06.18: Firefighter Romance Novels</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Is it getting hot in here? It is! We’re talking about firefighters this week — arguably the best of the hero(in)es in uniform because, let’s face it, there’s something pretty sexy about someone who will run into flames to save a stranger…let alone to save you. We’re talking about primordial firefighters, about patriarchy (obviously), about the difference between city firefighters and smoke jumpers, and about about the nature of a love interest who puts themself in danger for a living. All that, and they can dead lift you, too.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our first read along of 2024 is Natalie Caña’s A Dish Best Served Hot. Find it at <a href="https://amzn.to/41O202Z">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-dish-best-served-hot-natalie-ca-a/1142184250">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/a-dish-best-served-hot/id6443344161">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/a-dish-best-served-hot">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780778333500">your local indie</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you just can’t get enough of us, consider joining our Patreon! You get an extra episode of banter every month and access to the Fated Mates discord, full of people who love romance as much as we do. It’s pretty great, we have to say. Learn more at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">You can watch some movies and shows about firefighters and paramedics: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backdraft_(film)">Backdraft</a>, <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nbc.com%2Fchicago-fire&amp;sa=D&amp;source=docs&amp;usg=AOvVaw3jfXSpwhkze4F0pHAI0fvI&amp;ust=1705448427764875">Chicago Fire</a>, and <a href="https://youtu.be/jAULhTLU14g?si=LtChSZPAQd6NVouY">Sky Med.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Here’s a snipped of the scene from Backdraft where <a href="https://youtu.be/uTWvE7TdjuE?si=xYhlLsmJxZ1nBTkj">they break a car window to get the hose to the hydrant.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.sfchronicle.com/projects/2023/firefighter-health/">Wildland firefighting is dangerous</a> and <a href="https://theconversation.com/wildland-firefighters-face-a-huge-pay-cut-without-action-by-congress-in-the-midst-of-strenuous-dangerous-work-during-fire-season-214336">often underpaid</a>, and the Marshall Project has written extensively <a href="https://www.themarshallproject.org/2020/09/02/the-former-prisoners-fighting-california-s-wildfires">on prisoners forced into these jobs</a>. Also, here is a first person account of <a href="https://abcnews.go.com/US/freight-train-firefighters-describe-riding-blaze-fire-shelter/story?id=73420186">two men who used emergency fire shelters to survive a wildfire</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.firehouse.com/careers-education/news/21264480/chicago-fire-department-struggles-to-reflect-the-citys-demographics-in-their-ranks">Firefighting demographics are actually pretty bad in Chicago</a>, and here’s a libguide (a library designed portal for collecting links/info on a certain topic) from <a href="https://guides.library.illinois.edu/c.php?g=897846&amp;p=6459225">the University of Illinois about this history of women in firefighting</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Too bad about <a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/bookinfo/charmed-by-the-alien-vampire-firemen/">Charmed by the Alien Vampire Firemen!</a></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Is it getting hot in here? It is! We’re talking about firefighters this week — arguably the best of the hero(in)es in uniform because, let’s face it, there’s something pretty sexy about someone who will run into flames to save a stranger…let alone to save you. We’re talking about primordial firefighters, about patriarchy (obviously), about the difference between city firefighters and smoke jumpers, and about about the nature of a love interest who puts themself in danger for a living. All that, and they can dead lift you, too.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our first read along of 2024 is Natalie Caña’s A Dish Best Served Hot. Find it at <a href="https://amzn.to/41O202Z">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-dish-best-served-hot-natalie-ca-a/1142184250">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/a-dish-best-served-hot/id6443344161">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/a-dish-best-served-hot">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780778333500">your local indie</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you just can’t get enough of us, consider joining our Patreon! You get an extra episode of banter every month and access to the Fated Mates discord, full of people who love romance as much as we do. It’s pretty great, we have to say. Learn more at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">You can watch some movies and shows about firefighters and paramedics: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backdraft_(film)">Backdraft</a>, <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nbc.com%2Fchicago-fire&amp;sa=D&amp;source=docs&amp;usg=AOvVaw3jfXSpwhkze4F0pHAI0fvI&amp;ust=1705448427764875">Chicago Fire</a>, and <a href="https://youtu.be/jAULhTLU14g?si=LtChSZPAQd6NVouY">Sky Med.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Here’s a snipped of the scene from Backdraft where <a href="https://youtu.be/uTWvE7TdjuE?si=xYhlLsmJxZ1nBTkj">they break a car window to get the hose to the hydrant.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.sfchronicle.com/projects/2023/firefighter-health/">Wildland firefighting is dangerous</a> and <a href="https://theconversation.com/wildland-firefighters-face-a-huge-pay-cut-without-action-by-congress-in-the-midst-of-strenuous-dangerous-work-during-fire-season-214336">often underpaid</a>, and the Marshall Project has written extensively <a href="https://www.themarshallproject.org/2020/09/02/the-former-prisoners-fighting-california-s-wildfires">on prisoners forced into these jobs</a>. Also, here is a first person account of <a href="https://abcnews.go.com/US/freight-train-firefighters-describe-riding-blaze-fire-shelter/story?id=73420186">two men who used emergency fire shelters to survive a wildfire</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.firehouse.com/careers-education/news/21264480/chicago-fire-department-struggles-to-reflect-the-citys-demographics-in-their-ranks">Firefighting demographics are actually pretty bad in Chicago</a>, and here’s a libguide (a library designed portal for collecting links/info on a certain topic) from <a href="https://guides.library.illinois.edu/c.php?g=897846&amp;p=6459225">the University of Illinois about this history of women in firefighting</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Too bad about <a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/bookinfo/charmed-by-the-alien-vampire-firemen/">Charmed by the Alien Vampire Firemen!</a></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/1/15/s0618-firefighter-romance-novels]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:65a5b3844569cd21c31b91ed</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/c1dab554-883c-4c31-ba52-ce3983c1aa80/pink-read-along.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2024 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/1859c353-c3f2-4204-8069-e43cd5e8a67e/fated-mates-firefighters.mp3" length="74444025" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:11:50</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>18</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>18</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Is it getting hot in here? It is! We’re talking about firefighters this week — arguably the best of the hero(in)es in uniform because, let’s face it, there’s something pretty sexy about someone who will run into flames to save a stranger…let alone to save you. We’re talking about primordial firefighters, about patriarchy (obviously), about the difference between city firefighters and smoke jumpers, and about about the nature of a love interest who puts themself in danger for a living. All that, and they can dead lift you, too. </itunes:summary></item><item><title>S06.17: Fresh Starts and New Beginnings in Romance Novels</title><itunes:title>S06.17: Fresh Starts and New Beginnings in Romance Novels</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Is it getting hot in here? It is! We’re talking about firefighters this week — arguably the best of the hero(in)es in uniform because, let’s face it, there’s something pretty sexy about someone who will run <em>into flames</em> to save a stranger…let alone to save you. We’re talking about primordial firefighters, about patriarchy (obviously), about the difference between city firefighters and smoke jumpers, and about about the nature of a love interest who puts themself in danger for a living. All that, and they can dead lift you, too.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our first read along of 2024 is Natalie Caña’s A Dish Best Served Hot. Find it at <a href="https://amzn.to/41O202Z">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-dish-best-served-hot-natalie-ca-a/1142184250">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/a-dish-best-served-hot/id6443344161">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/a-dish-best-served-hot">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780778333500">your local indie</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you just can’t get enough of us, consider joining our Patreon! You get an extra episode of banter every month and access to the Fated Mates discord, full of people who love romance as much as we do. It’s pretty great, we have to say. Learn more at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Show Notes</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">You can watch some movies and shows about firefighters and paramedics: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backdraft_(film)">Backdraft</a>, <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nbc.com%2Fchicago-fire&amp;sa=D&amp;source=docs&amp;usg=AOvVaw3jfXSpwhkze4F0pHAI0fvI&amp;ust=1705448427764875">Chicago Fire</a>, and <a href="https://youtu.be/jAULhTLU14g?si=LtChSZPAQd6NVouY">Sky Med.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Here’s a snipped of the scene from Backdraft where <a href="https://youtu.be/uTWvE7TdjuE?si=xYhlLsmJxZ1nBTkj">they break a car window to get the hose to the hydrant.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.sfchronicle.com/projects/2023/firefighter-health/">Wildland firefighting is dangerous</a> and <a href="https://theconversation.com/wildland-firefighters-face-a-huge-pay-cut-without-action-by-congress-in-the-midst-of-strenuous-dangerous-work-during-fire-season-214336">often underpaid</a>, and the Marshall Project has written extensively <a href="https://www.themarshallproject.org/2020/09/02/the-former-prisoners-fighting-california-s-wildfires">on prisoners forced into these jobs</a>. Also, here is a first person account of <a href="https://abcnews.go.com/US/freight-train-firefighters-describe-riding-blaze-fire-shelter/story?id=73420186">two men who used emergency fire shelters to survive a wildfire</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.firehouse.com/careers-education/news/21264480/chicago-fire-department-struggles-to-reflect-the-citys-demographics-in-their-ranks">Firefighting demographics are actually pretty bad in Chicago</a>, and here’s a libguide (a library designed portal for collecting links/info on a certain topic) from <a href="https://guides.library.illinois.edu/c.php?g=897846&amp;p=6459225">the University of Illinois about this history of women in firefighting</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Too bad about <a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/bookinfo/charmed-by-the-alien-vampire-firemen/">Charmed by the Alien Vampire Firemen!</a></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Is it getting hot in here? It is! We’re talking about firefighters this week — arguably the best of the hero(in)es in uniform because, let’s face it, there’s something pretty sexy about someone who will run <em>into flames</em> to save a stranger…let alone to save you. We’re talking about primordial firefighters, about patriarchy (obviously), about the difference between city firefighters and smoke jumpers, and about about the nature of a love interest who puts themself in danger for a living. All that, and they can dead lift you, too.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our first read along of 2024 is Natalie Caña’s A Dish Best Served Hot. Find it at <a href="https://amzn.to/41O202Z">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-dish-best-served-hot-natalie-ca-a/1142184250">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/a-dish-best-served-hot/id6443344161">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/a-dish-best-served-hot">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780778333500">your local indie</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you just can’t get enough of us, consider joining our Patreon! You get an extra episode of banter every month and access to the Fated Mates discord, full of people who love romance as much as we do. It’s pretty great, we have to say. Learn more at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Show Notes</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">You can watch some movies and shows about firefighters and paramedics: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backdraft_(film)">Backdraft</a>, <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nbc.com%2Fchicago-fire&amp;sa=D&amp;source=docs&amp;usg=AOvVaw3jfXSpwhkze4F0pHAI0fvI&amp;ust=1705448427764875">Chicago Fire</a>, and <a href="https://youtu.be/jAULhTLU14g?si=LtChSZPAQd6NVouY">Sky Med.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Here’s a snipped of the scene from Backdraft where <a href="https://youtu.be/uTWvE7TdjuE?si=xYhlLsmJxZ1nBTkj">they break a car window to get the hose to the hydrant.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.sfchronicle.com/projects/2023/firefighter-health/">Wildland firefighting is dangerous</a> and <a href="https://theconversation.com/wildland-firefighters-face-a-huge-pay-cut-without-action-by-congress-in-the-midst-of-strenuous-dangerous-work-during-fire-season-214336">often underpaid</a>, and the Marshall Project has written extensively <a href="https://www.themarshallproject.org/2020/09/02/the-former-prisoners-fighting-california-s-wildfires">on prisoners forced into these jobs</a>. Also, here is a first person account of <a href="https://abcnews.go.com/US/freight-train-firefighters-describe-riding-blaze-fire-shelter/story?id=73420186">two men who used emergency fire shelters to survive a wildfire</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.firehouse.com/careers-education/news/21264480/chicago-fire-department-struggles-to-reflect-the-citys-demographics-in-their-ranks">Firefighting demographics are actually pretty bad in Chicago</a>, and here’s a libguide (a library designed portal for collecting links/info on a certain topic) from <a href="https://guides.library.illinois.edu/c.php?g=897846&amp;p=6459225">the University of Illinois about this history of women in firefighting</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Too bad about <a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/bookinfo/charmed-by-the-alien-vampire-firemen/">Charmed by the Alien Vampire Firemen!</a></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2024/1/8/s0617-fresh-starts-and-new-beginnings-in-romance-novels]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:659c2ac0367c253ac1ddc8f2</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/dddeb0d3-7c0e-4be6-bedf-67cf33fae2f3/pink-read-along.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2024 01:02:15 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/0517d965-a582-48d0-8fef-f76210f30db3/fated-mates-fresh-stars-in-romance-novels.mp3" length="71915319" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:08:02</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>17</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>17</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><itunes:summary>It’s January, which means we’re all being inundated with resolutions and new beginnings, which  might be your thing and might not…but you can’t deny that a character tossed into a fresh start makes for a great romance. Today we’re talking about all the ways characters start over in romance—after heartbreak, after failure, or with an eye toward a different life. Whatever you decide to do with your January, we hope these books are a part of it. Happy New Year, Firebirds!</itunes:summary></item><item><title>S06.16: Happy New Year: Breeding Kink with Mila Finelli</title><itunes:title>Happy New Year: Breeding Kink with Mila Finelli</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It’s New Years Eve, and that means tackling some of the more headphones-in stuff in the Romance Pool, we don’t make the rules. Ok. We kind of make the rules, and this is the New Years Eve service we provide. Today, we’re talking breeding kink in romance with one of our faves, <a href="https://joannashupe.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joanna Shupe</a>! She’s here in disguise though, as <a href="https://milafinelli.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mila Finelli</a>, author of absolutely fire mafia romances, including her latest, <a href="https://amzn.to/3NqyNoC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mafia Virgin</a>, which features this particular trope and is a full on delight.</p><p>As usual, we start out giggling and then get serious as we try to get to the bottom of this very specific thing that seems to have had a recent resurgence in romance. We do patriarchy, body autonomy and heteronormativity, then get into the provenance of this particular romance trope, and finally to the but why tho part of the discussion with a minor detour about spelling. We net out at…well, just give it a listen. But for the love of all that is holy, put your headphones in.</p><p>Happy New Year, Magnificent Firebirds. We love you a lot and hope that 2024 is the best year yet. xx Jen &amp; Sarah</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Welcome <a href="https://joannashupe.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joanna Shupe,</a> who writes mafia romance under the name <a href="https://milafinelli.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mila Finelli</a>. The 5th book in the Kings of Italy series, <a href="https://amzn.to/41Gi8mY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mafia Virgin</a>, is available now.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Our New Years Eve episodes are always...interesting. Listen to past years:</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>-2019: <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/12/31/s0217-pegging-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pegging in Romance with Sierra Simone</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>-2020: <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/12/31/jessa-kane-new-years-eve-extravaganza" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jessa Kane extravaganza with Andie Christopher, Alexis Daria, Adriana Herrera, LaQuette, Tracey Livesay, Nisha Sharma, and Joanna Shupe</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>-2022: <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/12/29/s0515-omegaversity" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Omegaversity with Adriana Herrera and Ali Hazelwood</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>-In 2021 we released the Season 2 Ted Lasso Roy Kent lovefest on New Year's Eve, but we were still pandemic-ing, so please don't blame us for the detour in brand that year. We came back with a bang in 2022, and now, in 2023, we're the full banana, as surely you can agree.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>If you haven't listened to <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/12/6/s0414-elda-minger-a-trailblazer-episode" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the trailblazer episode with Elda Minger</a>, you should.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Joanna mentioned this article from Salon <a href="https://www.salon.com/2023/11/27/the-insidious-rise-of-tradwives-a-right-wing-fantasy-is-rotting-young-mens-minds/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">about young conservative men and the tradwives fantasy</a>, and <a href="https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/27/us/tradwife-1950s-nostalgia-tiktok-cec/index.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a recent CNN article</a> about the phenomenon.</li></ol><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/12/31/s0616-happy-new-year-breeding-kink-with-mila-finelli </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s New Years Eve, and that means tackling some of the more headphones-in stuff in the Romance Pool, we don’t make the rules. Ok. We kind of make the rules, and this is the New Years Eve service we provide. Today, we’re talking breeding kink in romance with one of our faves, <a href="https://joannashupe.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joanna Shupe</a>! She’s here in disguise though, as <a href="https://milafinelli.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mila Finelli</a>, author of absolutely fire mafia romances, including her latest, <a href="https://amzn.to/3NqyNoC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mafia Virgin</a>, which features this particular trope and is a full on delight.</p><p>As usual, we start out giggling and then get serious as we try to get to the bottom of this very specific thing that seems to have had a recent resurgence in romance. We do patriarchy, body autonomy and heteronormativity, then get into the provenance of this particular romance trope, and finally to the but why tho part of the discussion with a minor detour about spelling. We net out at…well, just give it a listen. But for the love of all that is holy, put your headphones in.</p><p>Happy New Year, Magnificent Firebirds. We love you a lot and hope that 2024 is the best year yet. xx Jen &amp; Sarah</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Welcome <a href="https://joannashupe.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joanna Shupe,</a> who writes mafia romance under the name <a href="https://milafinelli.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mila Finelli</a>. The 5th book in the Kings of Italy series, <a href="https://amzn.to/41Gi8mY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mafia Virgin</a>, is available now.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Our New Years Eve episodes are always...interesting. Listen to past years:</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>-2019: <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/12/31/s0217-pegging-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pegging in Romance with Sierra Simone</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>-2020: <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/12/31/jessa-kane-new-years-eve-extravaganza" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jessa Kane extravaganza with Andie Christopher, Alexis Daria, Adriana Herrera, LaQuette, Tracey Livesay, Nisha Sharma, and Joanna Shupe</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>-2022: <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/12/29/s0515-omegaversity" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Omegaversity with Adriana Herrera and Ali Hazelwood</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>-In 2021 we released the Season 2 Ted Lasso Roy Kent lovefest on New Year's Eve, but we were still pandemic-ing, so please don't blame us for the detour in brand that year. We came back with a bang in 2022, and now, in 2023, we're the full banana, as surely you can agree.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>If you haven't listened to <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/12/6/s0414-elda-minger-a-trailblazer-episode" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the trailblazer episode with Elda Minger</a>, you should.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Joanna mentioned this article from Salon <a href="https://www.salon.com/2023/11/27/the-insidious-rise-of-tradwives-a-right-wing-fantasy-is-rotting-young-mens-minds/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">about young conservative men and the tradwives fantasy</a>, and <a href="https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/27/us/tradwife-1950s-nostalgia-tiktok-cec/index.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a recent CNN article</a> about the phenomenon.</li></ol><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/12/31/s0616-happy-new-year-breeding-kink-with-mila-finelli </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/12/31/s0616-happy-new-year-breeding-kink-with-mila-finelli]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:6591580d59e58d388472f51d</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/3b7b24f2-bf01-4db6-9a53-b1d869da63f5/pink-read-along.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 01 Jan 2024 01:38:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/b9004225-6dad-478c-a185-863543eadfc4/fated-mates-breeding-kink-new-years-episode-2023.mp3" length="96352535" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:36:44</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>16</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>16</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><itunes:summary>It’s New Years Eve, and that means tackling some of the more headphones-in stuff in the Romance Pool, we don’t make the rules. Ok. We kind of make the rules, and this is the New Years Eve service we provide. Today, we’re talking breeding kink in romance with one of our faves, Joanna Shupe! She’s here in disguise though, as Mila Finelli, author of absolutely fire mafia romances, including her latest, Mafia Virgin, which features this particular trope and is a full on delight. 

As usual, we start out giggling and then get serious as we try to get to the bottom of this very specific thing that seems to have had a recent resurgence in romance. We do patriarchy, body autonomy and heteronormativity, then get into the provenance of this particular romance trope, and finally to the but why tho part of the discussion with a minor detour about spelling. We net out at…well, just give it a listen. But for the love of all that is holy, put your headphones in.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-b9004225-6dad-478c-a185-863543eadfc4.json" type="application/json+chapters"/><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="video/youtube" title="S06.16: Breeding Kink with Mila Finelli"><podcast:source uri="https://youtu.be/RHBYVAiGrAw"/></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>06.15: Holiday Romances for 2023</title><itunes:title>06.15: Holiday Romances for 2023</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><br>It’s our annual holiday romance episode, and we’re so excited to have you with us! No Santa this year, but we’ve got Toy Runners, audio sexitimes in the Alps, menage in NYC, and more than one snowy cabin just waiting to keep us isolated from the outside world. You’re going to love it. Headphones in, though, please!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We don’t have an episode next week, but we’ll be back with a special guest for our annual New Years Eve episode. In the meantime, we hope you get everything you want from whomever you believe in. Thanks for being with us in 2023 — we can’t wait for what comes next. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Show Notes</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We read a bunch of books for the holidays, but mostly they lean Christmas this year. <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/12/12/s0513-here-comes-santa-claus">Last year’s episode was just about Santa.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our listener Katie sent us the Instagram Reel about Daddy December, but it's gone now!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Subscribe to <a href="https://www.bookbub.com/">the BookBub daily email</a>. You won’t be sad! I also followed @Shadesnpages who had two different #jinglebooks games, <a href="https://x.com/shadesnpages/status/1730699652582764869?s=20">one for Naughty</a> and <a href="https://x.com/shadesnpages/status/1735475702265155949?s=20">one for Nice</a>. The Lifetime movie that promised a sex scene failed to deliver, and <a href="https://x.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1734724724524020143?s=20">Jen made a joke about it on Twitter, of course.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Audio porn exists -- check out the <a href="https://britishfilth.tumblr.com/archive?source=blog_view_login_wall">British Filth archive on Tumblr</a>, <a href="https://www.patreon.com/MitchellASMR">MitchellASMR on Patreon</a> (some free stuff on Patreon without subscription, too), and apparemtly, the place to find audio now is Quinn. <a href="https://www.tryquinn.com/">Try it here</a>.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><br>It’s our annual holiday romance episode, and we’re so excited to have you with us! No Santa this year, but we’ve got Toy Runners, audio sexitimes in the Alps, menage in NYC, and more than one snowy cabin just waiting to keep us isolated from the outside world. You’re going to love it. Headphones in, though, please!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We don’t have an episode next week, but we’ll be back with a special guest for our annual New Years Eve episode. In the meantime, we hope you get everything you want from whomever you believe in. Thanks for being with us in 2023 — we can’t wait for what comes next. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Show Notes</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We read a bunch of books for the holidays, but mostly they lean Christmas this year. <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/12/12/s0513-here-comes-santa-claus">Last year’s episode was just about Santa.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our listener Katie sent us the Instagram Reel about Daddy December, but it's gone now!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Subscribe to <a href="https://www.bookbub.com/">the BookBub daily email</a>. You won’t be sad! I also followed @Shadesnpages who had two different #jinglebooks games, <a href="https://x.com/shadesnpages/status/1730699652582764869?s=20">one for Naughty</a> and <a href="https://x.com/shadesnpages/status/1735475702265155949?s=20">one for Nice</a>. The Lifetime movie that promised a sex scene failed to deliver, and <a href="https://x.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1734724724524020143?s=20">Jen made a joke about it on Twitter, of course.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Audio porn exists -- check out the <a href="https://britishfilth.tumblr.com/archive?source=blog_view_login_wall">British Filth archive on Tumblr</a>, <a href="https://www.patreon.com/MitchellASMR">MitchellASMR on Patreon</a> (some free stuff on Patreon without subscription, too), and apparemtly, the place to find audio now is Quinn. <a href="https://www.tryquinn.com/">Try it here</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/12/19/0615-holiday-romance-novels-mostly-christmas]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:658230733fbcb23165990d3e</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/91b21a75-eb44-4a63-869d-6a748de0224d/pink-read-along.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2023 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/bbd9031d-8c9b-4d03-9d78-b79401f9f817/fated-mates-holiday-romances-for-2023.mp3" length="73497410" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:11:46</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>15</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>15</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><itunes:summary>It’s our annual holiday romance episode, and we’re so excited to have you with us! No Santa this year, but we’ve got Toy Runners, audio sexitimes in the Alps, menage in NYC, and more than one snowy cabin just waiting to keep us isolated from the outside world. You’re going to love it. Headphones in, though, please!</itunes:summary></item><item><title>06.14: Dragon Bound by Thea Harrison</title><itunes:title>Dragon Bound by Thea Harrison</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>You didn’t think we were going to stay silent during the current dragon frenzy, did you? We absolutely have things to say about dragon heroes, and the one from Thea Harrison’s Dragon Bound in particular — which meant we had no choice but to do a surprise deep dive, read along! We talk about dragon shifters, about the history of dragons in romance, about why we think this is a near perfect example of paranormal romance and road trip romance. Also, if you are looking for rom com, look no further. This is a funny funny book.</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Get our Best Romance of 2023 book box <a href="https://fatedmates.net/pocketbooks" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from Pocket Books Shop in Lancaster, PA</a>. We're excited to be partnering with them on this one!</li><li>Dragons are <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/06/books/rebecca-yarros-fourth-wing-iron-flame.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">kind of big</a> <a href="https://ew.com/tv/game-of-thrones-every-spinoff-in-development/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">right now</a>.</li><li>A Cowby Christmas Romance, <a href="https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/lifetime-channel-first-sex-scene-christmas-movie-1235811775/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Lifetime Movie with the sex scene</a>, <a href="https://x.com/theLindashow/status/1734332688201322686?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">failed to deliver</a>.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puff,_the_Magic_Dragon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wikipedia 0</a>, <a href="https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/puff-the-magic-dragon/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen 1</a>. <a href="https://www.thomann.de/blog/en/play-it-backwards-are-diabolical-messages-hidden-in-songs/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Playing records backwards</a> used to be a big thing everyone was worried about, but then we got over it and <a href="https://www.seventeen.com/celebrity/music/a40061348/harry-styles-song-boyfriends-lyrics/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">it's just something Harry Styles does.</a></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46UCzxI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ladyhawke</a> is a super great movie from the 1985, but then again, we’re old.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/12/11/0614-dragon-bound-by-thea-harrison </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You didn’t think we were going to stay silent during the current dragon frenzy, did you? We absolutely have things to say about dragon heroes, and the one from Thea Harrison’s Dragon Bound in particular — which meant we had no choice but to do a surprise deep dive, read along! We talk about dragon shifters, about the history of dragons in romance, about why we think this is a near perfect example of paranormal romance and road trip romance. Also, if you are looking for rom com, look no further. This is a funny funny book.</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Get our Best Romance of 2023 book box <a href="https://fatedmates.net/pocketbooks" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from Pocket Books Shop in Lancaster, PA</a>. We're excited to be partnering with them on this one!</li><li>Dragons are <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/06/books/rebecca-yarros-fourth-wing-iron-flame.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">kind of big</a> <a href="https://ew.com/tv/game-of-thrones-every-spinoff-in-development/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">right now</a>.</li><li>A Cowby Christmas Romance, <a href="https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/lifetime-channel-first-sex-scene-christmas-movie-1235811775/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Lifetime Movie with the sex scene</a>, <a href="https://x.com/theLindashow/status/1734332688201322686?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">failed to deliver</a>.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puff,_the_Magic_Dragon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wikipedia 0</a>, <a href="https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/puff-the-magic-dragon/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen 1</a>. <a href="https://www.thomann.de/blog/en/play-it-backwards-are-diabolical-messages-hidden-in-songs/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Playing records backwards</a> used to be a big thing everyone was worried about, but then we got over it and <a href="https://www.seventeen.com/celebrity/music/a40061348/harry-styles-song-boyfriends-lyrics/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">it's just something Harry Styles does.</a></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/46UCzxI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ladyhawke</a> is a super great movie from the 1985, but then again, we’re old.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/12/11/0614-dragon-bound-by-thea-harrison </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/12/11/0614-dragon-bound-by-thea-harrison]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:6577b34d50a70a624ce7f641</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2023 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/5a8bc0a4-fcd2-4e77-b477-b6a2843c9d7e/fated-mates-dragon-bound.mp3" length="116794381" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:56:14</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>14</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><itunes:summary>You didn’t think we were going to stay silent during the current dragon frenzy, did you? We absolutely have things to say about dragon heroes, and the one from Thea Harrison’s Dragon Bound in particular — which meant we had no choice but to do a surprise deep dive, read along! We talk about dragon shifters, about the history of dragons in romance, about why we think this is a near perfect example of paranormal romance and road trip romance. Also, if you are looking for rom com, look no further. This is a funny funny book.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-5a8bc0a4-fcd2-4e77-b477-b6a2843c9d7e.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>06.13: Sarah &amp; Jen are Taking Your Questions</title><itunes:title>06.13: Sarah &amp; Jen are Taking Your Questions</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">It’s December, Jen is in NYC, and we’re taking questions from our Discord and Instagram! Listen to us talk about how we read, what makes us DNF, how we met, the books we loved this year (that weren’t published this year), and more. We love these episodes, and not only because they happen when we’re together on Sarah’s couch, but also because we get to talk directly to you!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Next week’s episode is a surprise deep dive, because y’all are wild about dragons! We’re reading Thea Harrison’s Dragon Bound, available in print and ebook at Amazon, Barnes &amp; Noble, Apple Books, Kobo and your local indie. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Show Notes</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://fatedmates.net/pocketbooks">Get our Best Romance of 2023 book box from Pocket Books Shop</a> in Lancaster, PA. We're excited to be partnering with them on this one!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">You know what we meant when we talked about <a href="https://youtu.be/M_MHkUQzQNM?si=8AJ5FjIWWoY_eUQV">Bart writing on the chalkboard.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you’ve never been to New York City at Christmas, we would highly recommend it. This year,<a href="https://www.timeout.com/newyork/news/heres-why-theres-a-giant-zodiac-display-on-the-saks-fifth-avenue-facade-102023"> the windows at Saks were cosponsored by Dior and celebrated the signs of the zodiac</a>, and it’s pretty awesome. But there’s also <a href="https://www.timeout.com/newyork/things-to-do/rockefeller-center-christmas-tree-guide">the angels and the Rockefeller center tree,</a> and the <a href="https://www.timeout.com/newyork/shopping/bryant-park-winter-village">Bryant Park holiday market.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Jen also went to <a href="https://variety.com/2023/legit/reviews/back-to-the-future-review-broadway-musical-1235685147/">Back to the Future the musical</a> and ate at the place with two bulls, which was actually called Benny John’s.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.pajiba.com/book_reviews/author-tillie-cole-faces-pushback-for-romance-novel-featuring-klansman-hero.php">Tillie Cole has bigger problems</a> then Jen not liking any mention of cults in the books she reads.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://x.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1150220499840098305?s=20">Should you DNF? Yes.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you’re looking for a romance writer’s conference, check out <a href="https://chicagospringfling.com/">the Chicago North conference in April of 2024.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Some bookish gifts: <a href="https://amzn.to/3TbZz82">a Book stand</a>, a <a href="https://amzn.to/47GHKCB">bluetooth page turner</a> for your eReader, and <a href="https://amzn.to/46Ko2nS">get a stand while you’re at it.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0Z6njEgRES/">Tracey Livesay made a very funny and very perfect video this week about the rise of Romantasy.</a></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">It’s December, Jen is in NYC, and we’re taking questions from our Discord and Instagram! Listen to us talk about how we read, what makes us DNF, how we met, the books we loved this year (that weren’t published this year), and more. We love these episodes, and not only because they happen when we’re together on Sarah’s couch, but also because we get to talk directly to you!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Next week’s episode is a surprise deep dive, because y’all are wild about dragons! We’re reading Thea Harrison’s Dragon Bound, available in print and ebook at Amazon, Barnes &amp; Noble, Apple Books, Kobo and your local indie. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Show Notes</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://fatedmates.net/pocketbooks">Get our Best Romance of 2023 book box from Pocket Books Shop</a> in Lancaster, PA. We're excited to be partnering with them on this one!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">You know what we meant when we talked about <a href="https://youtu.be/M_MHkUQzQNM?si=8AJ5FjIWWoY_eUQV">Bart writing on the chalkboard.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you’ve never been to New York City at Christmas, we would highly recommend it. This year,<a href="https://www.timeout.com/newyork/news/heres-why-theres-a-giant-zodiac-display-on-the-saks-fifth-avenue-facade-102023"> the windows at Saks were cosponsored by Dior and celebrated the signs of the zodiac</a>, and it’s pretty awesome. But there’s also <a href="https://www.timeout.com/newyork/things-to-do/rockefeller-center-christmas-tree-guide">the angels and the Rockefeller center tree,</a> and the <a href="https://www.timeout.com/newyork/shopping/bryant-park-winter-village">Bryant Park holiday market.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Jen also went to <a href="https://variety.com/2023/legit/reviews/back-to-the-future-review-broadway-musical-1235685147/">Back to the Future the musical</a> and ate at the place with two bulls, which was actually called Benny John’s.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.pajiba.com/book_reviews/author-tillie-cole-faces-pushback-for-romance-novel-featuring-klansman-hero.php">Tillie Cole has bigger problems</a> then Jen not liking any mention of cults in the books she reads.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://x.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1150220499840098305?s=20">Should you DNF? Yes.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you’re looking for a romance writer’s conference, check out <a href="https://chicagospringfling.com/">the Chicago North conference in April of 2024.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Some bookish gifts: <a href="https://amzn.to/3TbZz82">a Book stand</a>, a <a href="https://amzn.to/47GHKCB">bluetooth page turner</a> for your eReader, and <a href="https://amzn.to/46Ko2nS">get a stand while you’re at it.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0Z6njEgRES/">Tracey Livesay made a very funny and very perfect video this week about the rise of Romantasy.</a></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/12/4/0613-sarah-amp-jen-are-taking-your-questions]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:656e294aa993ae3d0e570b8c</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/0f8bacd3-93b7-4d37-9873-3f9749221979/pink-read-along.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2023 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/a529e13f-14c8-408b-b80a-3d3abf62d441/125-finalfinal-masteredreva.mp3" length="74860371" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:13:02</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>13</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><itunes:summary>It’s December, Jen is in NYC, and we’re taking questions from our Discord and Instagram! Listen to us talk about how we read, what makes us DNF, how we met, the books we loved this year (that weren’t published this year), and more. We love these episodes, and not only because they happen when we’re together on Sarah’s couch, but also because we get to talk directly to you!</itunes:summary></item><item><title>06.12: Best Romance Novels of 2023</title><itunes:title>06.12: Best Romance Novels of 2023</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[It’s the best and worst task for us, because we read so many fabulous books over the course of the year, and choosing ten is hard, ok? But here they are — ten books we adored—books that delivered all the things we love in romance: sharp edges, sparkling dialogue, strong heroines and smoking hot chemistry. ]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[It’s the best and worst task for us, because we read so many fabulous books over the course of the year, and choosing ten is hard, ok? But here they are — ten books we adored—books that delivered all the things we love in romance: sharp edges, sparkling dialogue, strong heroines and smoking hot chemistry. ]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/11/27/0612-best-romance-novels-of-2023]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:65654daf7a2e7e1948bb1a63</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/24cecda3-5a4a-43d7-9e31-708c55148425/fm-bestof2023-lg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2023 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/4259c59d-d029-4d54-a651-acbbb25f669d/fated-mates-best-romance-books-of-2023.mp3" length="96894089" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:34:42</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>12</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><itunes:summary>It’s the best and worst task for us, because we read so many fabulous books over the course of the year, and choosing ten is hard, ok? But here they are — ten books we adored—books that delivered all the things we love in romance: sharp edges, sparkling dialogue, strong heroines and smoking hot chemistry. </itunes:summary></item><item><title>06.11: Rend by Roan Parrish &amp; the Lift 4 Autism Auction</title><itunes:title>06.11: Rend by Roan Parrish &amp; the Lift 4 Autism Auction</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><br>This week, we’re doing things a little differently! A while back, we donated an episode for bid in the <a href="https://lift4autism.com/">Lift 4 Autism auction</a>, arranged by friend of the pod, Kennedy Ryan. Listener Julie won (thanks, Julie!) and selected Roan Parrish’s Rend for a deep dive read along, which we were so happy to do! After a shocking amount of Bantr, here it is — we’re talking about POV, about sadness in romances, about the way romance represents loneliness, and more. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We’re also taking a bit of time to recommend a group of books that have autism spectrum rep on page and that we, members of our Discord, and other authors adore. Enjoy! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates">Learn more at patreon.com</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Show Notes</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you’re looking to buy stuff, especially this weekend during holiday-sale-extravaganza, you should probably check out <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/">Wirecutter.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">You should subscribe to the <a href="https://www.bookbub.com/">Bookbub daily email</a>, choose what kinds of books you want and watch your wallet!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.pocketbooksshop.com/fated-mates">Order the best of the year box from Pocket Books Shop</a> in Lancaster, PA. The Best of 2023 list comes out next week!</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><br>This week, we’re doing things a little differently! A while back, we donated an episode for bid in the <a href="https://lift4autism.com/">Lift 4 Autism auction</a>, arranged by friend of the pod, Kennedy Ryan. Listener Julie won (thanks, Julie!) and selected Roan Parrish’s Rend for a deep dive read along, which we were so happy to do! After a shocking amount of Bantr, here it is — we’re talking about POV, about sadness in romances, about the way romance represents loneliness, and more. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We’re also taking a bit of time to recommend a group of books that have autism spectrum rep on page and that we, members of our Discord, and other authors adore. Enjoy! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates">Learn more at patreon.com</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Show Notes</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you’re looking to buy stuff, especially this weekend during holiday-sale-extravaganza, you should probably check out <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/">Wirecutter.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">You should subscribe to the <a href="https://www.bookbub.com/">Bookbub daily email</a>, choose what kinds of books you want and watch your wallet!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.pocketbooksshop.com/fated-mates">Order the best of the year box from Pocket Books Shop</a> in Lancaster, PA. The Best of 2023 list comes out next week!</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/11/21/0611-rend-by-roan-parrish-amp-the-lift-4-autism-auction]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:655d36a6d80eb0326063fc90</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/4edd3536-010f-4358-85dd-3062b700fa3a/pink-read-along.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2023 13:55:49 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/4652212d-12e2-4256-ab74-9dfe17073469/fated-mates-rend-reva.mp3" length="83340555" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:24:40</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>11</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><itunes:summary>This week, we’re doing things a little differently! A while back, we donated an episode for bid in the Lift 4 Autism auction, arranged by friend of the pod, Kennedy Ryan. Listener Julie won (thanks, Julie!) and selected Roan Parrish’s Rend for a deep dive read along, which we were so happy to do! After a shocking amount of Bantr, here it is — we’re talking about POV, about sadness in romances, about the way romance represents loneliness, and more. 

We’re also taking a bit of time to recommend a group of books that have autism spectrum rep on page and that we, members of our Discord, and other authors adore. Enjoy! </itunes:summary></item><item><title>S06.10: Men in Fur:  Aliens, Warlords, and Vikings</title><itunes:title>Men in Fur: Aliens, Warlords, and Vikings</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We’re feeling silly and spicy this week, so we’re delivering the silly, spicy niche content you’ve come to expect from us now and then — we’re talking Men in Fur! This one is for alien lovers, medieval warlord stans, and everyone who’s ever messaged us to ask for a Viking interstitial. We’re talking about fur in all it’s function—luxury, warmth, competence, historical necessity—and getting to the bottom of why we like it so much. It’s not the mojo dojo casa house vibe, but it sure is something. Headphones in because fur, and proceed with caution…these Viking books are a lot. You’ve been warned.</p><p>Our next read along, and last of the year, will be Roan Parrish’s Rend. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3Mp30ny" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/rend-roan-parrish/1128106339?bvstate=pg%3A2%2Fct%3Ar" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/rend/id1355458521" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> and <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/rend" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>. </p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>The Nora Roberts book where the hero smokes is <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/1/7/s0218-born-in-ice" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Born in Ice</a>.</li><li>Our Deep Dive on Milla Vane's <a href="https://amzn.to/3MIA8Xy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Heart of Blood and Ashes</a>.</li><li>Season 1 of Game of Thrones aired in 2011, and Jason Momoa’s character <a href="https://gameofthrones.fandom.com/wiki/Drogo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Khal Drago did not wear fur</a> as far as we can tell, but <a href="https://www.menshealth.com/entertainment/a43278776/jason-momoa-bare-butt-instagram-video/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">you still deserve nice things.</a></li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/ZD8o9TEDdgw?si=dnvmEkUbaOfHIGrE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Carding wool</a> is strangely calming if you ever have a chance, and all about <a href="https://www.masterclass.com/articles/fabric-guide-what-is-alpaca-fiber" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">alpaca fibers.</a></li><li>If You're ever in York, check out the <a href="https://www.jorvikvikingcentre.co.uk/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jorvik Viking Center</a>. <a href="https://www.newsweek.com/nineteen-volcanoes-erupt-same-time-1843702" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Volcanoes are erupting all the time</a>, no need to worry! If you’re in the mood for some non-romance Viking content, read the short story <a href="https://lithub.com/one-great-short-story-to-read-today-wells-towers-everything-ravaged-everything-burned/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Everything Ravaged, Everything Burned by Wells Tower.</a></li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/11/14/s0610-men-in-fur-aliens-warlords-and-vikings </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We’re feeling silly and spicy this week, so we’re delivering the silly, spicy niche content you’ve come to expect from us now and then — we’re talking Men in Fur! This one is for alien lovers, medieval warlord stans, and everyone who’s ever messaged us to ask for a Viking interstitial. We’re talking about fur in all it’s function—luxury, warmth, competence, historical necessity—and getting to the bottom of why we like it so much. It’s not the mojo dojo casa house vibe, but it sure is something. Headphones in because fur, and proceed with caution…these Viking books are a lot. You’ve been warned.</p><p>Our next read along, and last of the year, will be Roan Parrish’s Rend. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3Mp30ny" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/rend-roan-parrish/1128106339?bvstate=pg%3A2%2Fct%3Ar" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/rend/id1355458521" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> and <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/rend" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>. </p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>The Nora Roberts book where the hero smokes is <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/1/7/s0218-born-in-ice" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Born in Ice</a>.</li><li>Our Deep Dive on Milla Vane's <a href="https://amzn.to/3MIA8Xy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Heart of Blood and Ashes</a>.</li><li>Season 1 of Game of Thrones aired in 2011, and Jason Momoa’s character <a href="https://gameofthrones.fandom.com/wiki/Drogo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Khal Drago did not wear fur</a> as far as we can tell, but <a href="https://www.menshealth.com/entertainment/a43278776/jason-momoa-bare-butt-instagram-video/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">you still deserve nice things.</a></li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/ZD8o9TEDdgw?si=dnvmEkUbaOfHIGrE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Carding wool</a> is strangely calming if you ever have a chance, and all about <a href="https://www.masterclass.com/articles/fabric-guide-what-is-alpaca-fiber" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">alpaca fibers.</a></li><li>If You're ever in York, check out the <a href="https://www.jorvikvikingcentre.co.uk/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jorvik Viking Center</a>. <a href="https://www.newsweek.com/nineteen-volcanoes-erupt-same-time-1843702" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Volcanoes are erupting all the time</a>, no need to worry! If you’re in the mood for some non-romance Viking content, read the short story <a href="https://lithub.com/one-great-short-story-to-read-today-wells-towers-everything-ravaged-everything-burned/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Everything Ravaged, Everything Burned by Wells Tower.</a></li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/11/14/s0610-men-in-fur-aliens-warlords-and-vikings </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/11/14/s0610-men-in-fur-aliens-warlords-and-vikings]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:655387b23862a53538368102</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/ee83a293-b245-4d4a-ae66-3077e6b6fc96/furredmates.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2023 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/cb307285-b446-4f21-9cc5-57445e887b8e/fated-mates-men-in-fur.mp3" length="69093537" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:07:36</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>10</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We’re feeling silly and spicy this week, so we’re delivering the silly, spicy niche content you’ve come to expect from us now and then — we’re talking Men in Fur! This one is for alien lovers, medieval warlord stans, and everyone who’s ever messaged us to ask for a Viking interstitial. We’re talking about fur in all it’s function—luxury, warmth, competence, historical necessity—and getting to the bottom of why we like it so much. It’s not the mojo dojo casa house vibe, but it sure is something. Headphones in because fur, and proceed with caution…these Viking books are a lot. You’ve been warned.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-cb307285-b446-4f21-9cc5-57445e887b8e.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S06.09: Sports Romance with Jessica Luther</title><itunes:title>Sports Romance with Jessica Luther</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It’s another sports interstitial! We’re talking sports, balls &amp; sports balls with the brilliant Jessica Luther, sports romance lover, podcaster, and author of Unsportsmanlike Conduct: College Football and the Politics of Rape and Loving Sports When They Don't Love You Back: Dilemmas of the Modern Fan. Everyone came to this one with their own strategy, so we’re talking everything from beach volleyball to hockey, surfing to F1. Of course, we talk about Beckham, but surprisingly, we don’t even say Jurgen Klopp one time. </p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jessicawluther.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jessica Luther</a>. You can read her books,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/49x15XW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Unsportsmanlike Conduct: College Football and the Politics of Rape</em></a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3QVhiiI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Loving Sports When They Don't Love You Back: Dilemmas of the Modern Fan</em></a>, or listen to her (on hiatus) sports&nbsp;<a href="https://www.burnitalldownpod.com/episodes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">podcast Burn it All Down</a>. Her dissertation is about&nbsp;<a href="https://texassports.com/sports/general/roster/retha-swindell/1324" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Retha Swindell</a>&nbsp;and the first integrated women’s basketball team at UT, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.texasmonthly.com/arts-entertainment/battle-of-the-sexes-fifty-year-anniversary/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">she recently wrote about the 50th anniversary of "The Battle of the Sexes."</a></li><li>WNBA stuff we talked about:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.espn.com/wnba/story/_/id/38635517/teresa-weatherspoon-hired-head-coach-wnba-chicago-sky" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Teresa Weatherspoon is the new head coach for the Chicago Sky</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.si.com/wnba/2019/07/25/chicago-sky-vandersloot-quigley-marriage-helps-basketball-life?scrlybrkr=958e9960" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Allie Quigley and Courtney VanderSloot</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/oj6p5tPMYgA?si=oKjBKtDAxd51DKkI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dawn Staley supporting her players</a>, and the&nbsp;<a href="https://vimeo.com/552923319?scrlybrkr=958e9960" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">WNBA pandemic bubble</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://ahnfiredigital.com/wnba/patrick-beverley-entertains-putting-1m-on-wnba-team-beating-boys-high-school-team/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">that dumb man</a>&nbsp;who thinks a high school boys basketball team could beat a WNBA team, which by the way&nbsp;<a href="https://texags.com/forums/52/topics/1425932" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">dumb men&nbsp;</a>have been saying this about the WNBA for a long time.</li><li>Football stuff we talked about: Taylor Swift has caused&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/how-the-taylor-swift-travis-kelce-romance-has-impacted-the-nfl-honestly-unlike-anything-weve-seen/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a spike of interest in the NFL</a>, the&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/KN82P7P45Vo?si=9MviPWVqzaZrhL2Z" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">SNL skit with the football players</a>, women on TikTok getting their husbands to say that Taylor Swift is putting Travis Kelce on the map, the&nbsp;<a href="https://thecupcakeguys.com/pages/about" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">real life football cupcake shop in Austin</a>, and why it’s&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vox.com/recode/22947732/phones-sports-betting-gambling-apple-google-march-madness" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a dumb idea to use betting apps</a>&nbsp;on your phone.</li><li>MNBA stuff we talked about: That tall man who plays for the Spurs is&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Wembanyama?scrlybrkr=958e9960" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Victor Wembanyama</a>&nbsp;and he’s 7’4” and it’s honestly&nbsp;<a href="https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/victor-wembanyama-height-photos-nba-players-short" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">quite startling</a>!&nbsp;<a href="https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/11/bob-knight-was-a-misogynistic-bully.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bobby Knight was a terrible man</a>. Jen’s too cheap to pay $300 a seat for a Bulls game.</li><li>Hockey Stuff we talked about: the openly homophobic NHL&nbsp;<a href="https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/nhl-pride-tape-ban-lgbtq-rcna120332" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">banned pride tape this year</a>, and even though they rescinded the ban,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cbc.ca/radio/day6/carson-gates-pride-tape-1.6995583" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">it’s still pretty awful for queer players and fans</a>, the&nbsp;<a href="https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/chicago-blackhawks-sexual-assault-scandal-timeline-stan-bowman" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blackhawks abuse scandal.</a></li><li>Racing stuff we talked about:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.racybooks.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Racy Books Podcast</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.formula1.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">F1 racing</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.formula1.com/en/drivers/lewis-hamilton.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lewis Hamilton</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80204890?scrlybrkr=958e9960" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Drive to Survive on Netflix</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.roadandtrack.com/motorsports/a44430911/nascar-chicago-street-race-success-or-catastrophe/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">NASCAR in Chicago</a>. An important addition: a reader contacted us and let us know about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cbc.ca/sports/racing-robert-wickens-injury-championship-oct-13-1.6995406" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Robbie Wickens, a race car driver who suffered a spinal cord injury</a>&nbsp;in an Indy Car race and has returned to racing.</li><li>Soccer stuff we talked about:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Lasso?scrlybrkr=958e9960" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ted Lasso</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81223488" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Beckham documentary</a>&nbsp;on Netflix.</li><li><a href="https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Q9oxM2MU2_tCdd7NIArOn5B-g1EYGhhS?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a folder of PDFs for ya</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/11/6/s0609-sports-romance-with-jessica-luther </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s another sports interstitial! We’re talking sports, balls &amp; sports balls with the brilliant Jessica Luther, sports romance lover, podcaster, and author of Unsportsmanlike Conduct: College Football and the Politics of Rape and Loving Sports When They Don't Love You Back: Dilemmas of the Modern Fan. Everyone came to this one with their own strategy, so we’re talking everything from beach volleyball to hockey, surfing to F1. Of course, we talk about Beckham, but surprisingly, we don’t even say Jurgen Klopp one time. </p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jessicawluther.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jessica Luther</a>. You can read her books,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/49x15XW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Unsportsmanlike Conduct: College Football and the Politics of Rape</em></a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3QVhiiI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Loving Sports When They Don't Love You Back: Dilemmas of the Modern Fan</em></a>, or listen to her (on hiatus) sports&nbsp;<a href="https://www.burnitalldownpod.com/episodes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">podcast Burn it All Down</a>. Her dissertation is about&nbsp;<a href="https://texassports.com/sports/general/roster/retha-swindell/1324" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Retha Swindell</a>&nbsp;and the first integrated women’s basketball team at UT, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.texasmonthly.com/arts-entertainment/battle-of-the-sexes-fifty-year-anniversary/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">she recently wrote about the 50th anniversary of "The Battle of the Sexes."</a></li><li>WNBA stuff we talked about:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.espn.com/wnba/story/_/id/38635517/teresa-weatherspoon-hired-head-coach-wnba-chicago-sky" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Teresa Weatherspoon is the new head coach for the Chicago Sky</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.si.com/wnba/2019/07/25/chicago-sky-vandersloot-quigley-marriage-helps-basketball-life?scrlybrkr=958e9960" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Allie Quigley and Courtney VanderSloot</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/oj6p5tPMYgA?si=oKjBKtDAxd51DKkI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dawn Staley supporting her players</a>, and the&nbsp;<a href="https://vimeo.com/552923319?scrlybrkr=958e9960" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">WNBA pandemic bubble</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://ahnfiredigital.com/wnba/patrick-beverley-entertains-putting-1m-on-wnba-team-beating-boys-high-school-team/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">that dumb man</a>&nbsp;who thinks a high school boys basketball team could beat a WNBA team, which by the way&nbsp;<a href="https://texags.com/forums/52/topics/1425932" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">dumb men&nbsp;</a>have been saying this about the WNBA for a long time.</li><li>Football stuff we talked about: Taylor Swift has caused&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/how-the-taylor-swift-travis-kelce-romance-has-impacted-the-nfl-honestly-unlike-anything-weve-seen/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a spike of interest in the NFL</a>, the&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/KN82P7P45Vo?si=9MviPWVqzaZrhL2Z" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">SNL skit with the football players</a>, women on TikTok getting their husbands to say that Taylor Swift is putting Travis Kelce on the map, the&nbsp;<a href="https://thecupcakeguys.com/pages/about" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">real life football cupcake shop in Austin</a>, and why it’s&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vox.com/recode/22947732/phones-sports-betting-gambling-apple-google-march-madness" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a dumb idea to use betting apps</a>&nbsp;on your phone.</li><li>MNBA stuff we talked about: That tall man who plays for the Spurs is&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Wembanyama?scrlybrkr=958e9960" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Victor Wembanyama</a>&nbsp;and he’s 7’4” and it’s honestly&nbsp;<a href="https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/victor-wembanyama-height-photos-nba-players-short" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">quite startling</a>!&nbsp;<a href="https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/11/bob-knight-was-a-misogynistic-bully.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bobby Knight was a terrible man</a>. Jen’s too cheap to pay $300 a seat for a Bulls game.</li><li>Hockey Stuff we talked about: the openly homophobic NHL&nbsp;<a href="https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/nhl-pride-tape-ban-lgbtq-rcna120332" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">banned pride tape this year</a>, and even though they rescinded the ban,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cbc.ca/radio/day6/carson-gates-pride-tape-1.6995583" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">it’s still pretty awful for queer players and fans</a>, the&nbsp;<a href="https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/chicago-blackhawks-sexual-assault-scandal-timeline-stan-bowman" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blackhawks abuse scandal.</a></li><li>Racing stuff we talked about:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.racybooks.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Racy Books Podcast</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.formula1.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">F1 racing</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.formula1.com/en/drivers/lewis-hamilton.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lewis Hamilton</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80204890?scrlybrkr=958e9960" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Drive to Survive on Netflix</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.roadandtrack.com/motorsports/a44430911/nascar-chicago-street-race-success-or-catastrophe/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">NASCAR in Chicago</a>. An important addition: a reader contacted us and let us know about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cbc.ca/sports/racing-robert-wickens-injury-championship-oct-13-1.6995406" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Robbie Wickens, a race car driver who suffered a spinal cord injury</a>&nbsp;in an Indy Car race and has returned to racing.</li><li>Soccer stuff we talked about:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Lasso?scrlybrkr=958e9960" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ted Lasso</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81223488" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Beckham documentary</a>&nbsp;on Netflix.</li><li><a href="https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Q9oxM2MU2_tCdd7NIArOn5B-g1EYGhhS?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a folder of PDFs for ya</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/11/6/s0609-sports-romance-with-jessica-luther </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/11/6/s0609-sports-romance-with-jessica-luther]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:65491958376fc04856c3b333</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2023 03:55:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/ec19746e-0e16-4918-81f0-a37ca66f75e8/fated-mates-sports.mp3" length="81969842" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:23:54</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>9</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><itunes:summary>It’s another sports interstitial! We’re talking sports, balls &amp; sports balls with the brilliant Jessica Luther, sports romance lover, podcaster, and author of Unsportsmanlike Conduct: College Football and the Politics of Rape and Loving Sports When They Don&apos;t Love You Back: Dilemmas of the Modern Fan. Everyone came to this one with their own strategy, so we’re talking everything from beach volleyball to hockey, surfing to F1. Of course, we talk about Beckham, but surprisingly, we don’t even say Jurgen Klopp one time.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-ec19746e-0e16-4918-81f0-a37ca66f75e8.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S06.08: Flowers from the Storm by Laura Kinsale: Romance Math</title><itunes:title>Flowers from the Storm by Laura Kinsale: Romance Math</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Today, we’re reading an absolute romance classic — one of those books everyone tells you is a must read, and one that neither of us had read before the podcast! We’re taking a few minutes at the top to admit our mutual folly, though, because Flowers from the Storm is stunning, and we now feel grown up enough to appreciate it. </p><p>We talk about Quakers, about dogs and kittens and apes, about men with pirate smiles and vengeance in their heart, about thees and thous, about capitalism and happily ever after and about how internal conflict can sometimes be the most difficult hurdle to overcome. Also, we find an undeniable reason to learn trigonometry. </p><p>Our next read along, and last of the year, will be Roan Parrish’s Rend. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3Mp30ny" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/rend-roan-parrish/1128106339?bvstate=pg%3A2%2Fct%3Ar" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/rend/id1355458521" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> and <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/rend" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>. </p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>All about <a href="https://quaker.org/faith-and-practice/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Quakers</a>, including some <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/16/opinion/sunday/pronouns-quakers.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">thoughts about pronoun usage.</a></li><li>You definitely did not want to be in <a href="https://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/objects-and-stories/medicine/victorian-mental-asylum" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">an Insane asylum in the 1800s</a>...or in 2023. Just <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/what-britney-spearss-memoir-has-to-say" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ask Britney Spears.</a></li><li>People we think have read this: Ruby Dixon, Lisa Kleypas, Kresley Cole, Elizabeth Hoyt, Kerrigan Byrne.</li><li>People we know have read this: Kate Clayborn (this is her favorite book) and Kennedy Ryan (this is one of her favorite books)</li><li>The narrator of this audiobook is <a href="https://www.audiofilemagazine.com/narrators/nicholas-boulton/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nicholas Boulton</a>, and Jen highly recommends it. Let Boulton do all <a href="https://www.readingrockets.org/helping-all-readers/why-some-kids-struggle/target-problem/word-decoding-and-phonics" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the decoding</a> for you. Here is <a href="https://youtu.be/2ZgJXvTJip4?si=S0sW7vGoW8_OTNsS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a short YouTube clip of him talking with Kinsale</a> about reading steam scenes.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/10/30/s0608-flowers-from-the-storm-by-laura-kinsale </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today, we’re reading an absolute romance classic — one of those books everyone tells you is a must read, and one that neither of us had read before the podcast! We’re taking a few minutes at the top to admit our mutual folly, though, because Flowers from the Storm is stunning, and we now feel grown up enough to appreciate it. </p><p>We talk about Quakers, about dogs and kittens and apes, about men with pirate smiles and vengeance in their heart, about thees and thous, about capitalism and happily ever after and about how internal conflict can sometimes be the most difficult hurdle to overcome. Also, we find an undeniable reason to learn trigonometry. </p><p>Our next read along, and last of the year, will be Roan Parrish’s Rend. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3Mp30ny" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/rend-roan-parrish/1128106339?bvstate=pg%3A2%2Fct%3Ar" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/rend/id1355458521" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> and <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/rend" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>. </p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>All about <a href="https://quaker.org/faith-and-practice/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Quakers</a>, including some <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/16/opinion/sunday/pronouns-quakers.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">thoughts about pronoun usage.</a></li><li>You definitely did not want to be in <a href="https://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/objects-and-stories/medicine/victorian-mental-asylum" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">an Insane asylum in the 1800s</a>...or in 2023. Just <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/what-britney-spearss-memoir-has-to-say" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ask Britney Spears.</a></li><li>People we think have read this: Ruby Dixon, Lisa Kleypas, Kresley Cole, Elizabeth Hoyt, Kerrigan Byrne.</li><li>People we know have read this: Kate Clayborn (this is her favorite book) and Kennedy Ryan (this is one of her favorite books)</li><li>The narrator of this audiobook is <a href="https://www.audiofilemagazine.com/narrators/nicholas-boulton/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nicholas Boulton</a>, and Jen highly recommends it. Let Boulton do all <a href="https://www.readingrockets.org/helping-all-readers/why-some-kids-struggle/target-problem/word-decoding-and-phonics" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the decoding</a> for you. Here is <a href="https://youtu.be/2ZgJXvTJip4?si=S0sW7vGoW8_OTNsS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a short YouTube clip of him talking with Kinsale</a> about reading steam scenes.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/10/30/s0608-flowers-from-the-storm-by-laura-kinsale </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/10/30/s0608-flowers-from-the-storm-by-laura-kinsale]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:65404f61a2d6213fa47a2ab4</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2023 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/0b32c0fa-784a-41b4-830e-053ea6127854/fated-mates-flowers-from-the-storm.mp3" length="95566231" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:35:50</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>8</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Today, we’re reading an absolute romance classic — one of those books everyone tells you is a must read, and one that neither of us had read before the podcast! We’re taking a few minutes at the top to admit our mutual folly, though, because Flowers from the Storm is stunning, and we now feel grown up enough to appreciate it. 

We talk about Quakers, about dogs and kittens and apes, about men with pirate smiles and vengeance in their heart, about thees and thous, about capitalism and happily ever after and about how internal conflict can sometimes be the most difficult hurdle to overcome. Also, we find an undeniable reason to learn trigonometry.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-0b32c0fa-784a-41b4-830e-053ea6127854.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S06.07: Happy Halloween: Devils in Romance Novels</title><itunes:title>S06.07: Happy Halloween: Devils in Romance Novels</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Jen’s been asking for this for six literal years, and we’re finally doing it! It’s Halloween and we’re talking Devils! Sure, we’ll touch on demons, but aren’t the scariest Devils the granite-jawed feelingless scoundrels who are definitely never going to fall in love? We’re talking Wicked Cynsters in Winter, Scoundrels of Downtown, Deals in Bed with Hades. You’re going to love it. All trick, no treat. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates">Learn more at patreon.com</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Show Notes</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The <a href="https://youtu.be/nSQtwAVXxTE?si=7obNkR6Q61e6ZPtZ">Las Vegas Aces won the WNBA championship for the second year in a row</a>, and <a href="https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1GtM5JSSh9PjwWiMF_hG8blAwq-2ZjjSP?usp=sharing">twitter was actually fun</a> for a few days.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1c3R0aEi6TPLuBQ4wnNMpmQ_r1CDo47pv?usp=sharing">Jen ranted</a> about <a href="https://wapo.st/3tQnRcW">this dumb Washington Post article about Lee and Andrew Child.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We have some documentaries to recommend: Sarah liked <a href="https://youtu.be/nUVNbJMWi_c?si=_9hOoBAtxiy3NznD">Beckham on Netflix</a> and Jen liked <a href="https://youtu.be/G59GvtrbFtQ?si=s_Ck7HAE57OyQT9W">The Supermodels on Apple Plus</a>. Linda Evangalista’s <a href="https://decider.com/2023/09/21/the-super-models-linda-evangelista-10000-dollars-a-day-quote/?scrlybrkr=958e9960">“We don’t get out of bed for less than $10,000 a day”</a> has aged better than Kate Moss’s, <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-45522714?scrlybrkr=958e9960">“Nothing tastes as good as skinny feels.”</a> Either way, <a href="https://theplumonline.com/wellness/genx-and-body-image-why-we-need-more-positivity">GenX has some body issues</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Devils are just <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/3/23/s0331-morality-chain-romance-interstitial">morality chain</a> when you think about it.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">There actually is a place in VA called <a href="https://www.virginia.org/listing/devils-bathtub-%26-waterfall/7792/">the Devil’s Bathtub!</a> I wonder if there are any camps nearby.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Here’s a handy <a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/homophones-vs-homographs-vs-homonyms">explainer on the difference between homophones, homographs, and homonyms</a> from the good people at Merriam-Webster. Looks like Cynster and Sinister would be homophones.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Speaking of Cynsters, listen to <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/3/17/s0228-devils-bride-by-stephanie-laurens">our deep dive of Devil's Bride</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyiqyE-rHww/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA%3D%3D">Here’s the video about the audiobook of Unhinged</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Are you in Florida? Sarah will be at the <a href="https://www.scgov.net/government/libraries/off-the-page">Off the Page Book Festival in Sarasota in November.</a></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Jen’s been asking for this for six literal years, and we’re finally doing it! It’s Halloween and we’re talking Devils! Sure, we’ll touch on demons, but aren’t the scariest Devils the granite-jawed feelingless scoundrels who are definitely never going to fall in love? We’re talking Wicked Cynsters in Winter, Scoundrels of Downtown, Deals in Bed with Hades. You’re going to love it. All trick, no treat. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates">Learn more at patreon.com</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Show Notes</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The <a href="https://youtu.be/nSQtwAVXxTE?si=7obNkR6Q61e6ZPtZ">Las Vegas Aces won the WNBA championship for the second year in a row</a>, and <a href="https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1GtM5JSSh9PjwWiMF_hG8blAwq-2ZjjSP?usp=sharing">twitter was actually fun</a> for a few days.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1c3R0aEi6TPLuBQ4wnNMpmQ_r1CDo47pv?usp=sharing">Jen ranted</a> about <a href="https://wapo.st/3tQnRcW">this dumb Washington Post article about Lee and Andrew Child.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We have some documentaries to recommend: Sarah liked <a href="https://youtu.be/nUVNbJMWi_c?si=_9hOoBAtxiy3NznD">Beckham on Netflix</a> and Jen liked <a href="https://youtu.be/G59GvtrbFtQ?si=s_Ck7HAE57OyQT9W">The Supermodels on Apple Plus</a>. Linda Evangalista’s <a href="https://decider.com/2023/09/21/the-super-models-linda-evangelista-10000-dollars-a-day-quote/?scrlybrkr=958e9960">“We don’t get out of bed for less than $10,000 a day”</a> has aged better than Kate Moss’s, <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-45522714?scrlybrkr=958e9960">“Nothing tastes as good as skinny feels.”</a> Either way, <a href="https://theplumonline.com/wellness/genx-and-body-image-why-we-need-more-positivity">GenX has some body issues</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Devils are just <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/3/23/s0331-morality-chain-romance-interstitial">morality chain</a> when you think about it.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">There actually is a place in VA called <a href="https://www.virginia.org/listing/devils-bathtub-%26-waterfall/7792/">the Devil’s Bathtub!</a> I wonder if there are any camps nearby.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Here’s a handy <a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/homophones-vs-homographs-vs-homonyms">explainer on the difference between homophones, homographs, and homonyms</a> from the good people at Merriam-Webster. Looks like Cynster and Sinister would be homophones.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Speaking of Cynsters, listen to <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/3/17/s0228-devils-bride-by-stephanie-laurens">our deep dive of Devil's Bride</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyiqyE-rHww/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA%3D%3D">Here’s the video about the audiobook of Unhinged</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Are you in Florida? Sarah will be at the <a href="https://www.scgov.net/government/libraries/off-the-page">Off the Page Book Festival in Sarasota in November.</a></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/10/24/s0607-happy-halloween-devils-in-romance-novels]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:6537f537f384633051a6bb2c</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/a0a8d5c5-4e41-4660-a10e-22b29ee4176e/pink-read-along.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2023 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/77704fb9-d82c-4b39-89a7-d81836f6e88d/fated-mates-halloween-devil.mp3" length="82783762" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:19:32</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>7</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Jen’s been asking for this for six literal years, and we’re finally doing it! It’s Halloween and we’re talking Devils! Sure, we’ll touch on demons, but aren’t the scariest Devils the granite-jawed feelingless scoundrels who are definitely never going to fall in love? We’re talking Wicked Cynsters in Winter, Scoundrels of Downtown, Deals in Bed with Hades. You’re going to love it. All trick, no treat. </itunes:summary></item><item><title>S06.06: Trailblazer Nalini Singh</title><itunes:title>Trailblazer Nalini Singh</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Our Trailblazer conversations continue this week with legend Nalini Singh, whose groundbreaking paranormal series changed the game. We talk about the early days of her writing (when she was a kid!) about building her career in New Zealand, about how she came to publish in the US,  about her beautiful relationships with readers, about the way she thinks about her series and how the stories hang together, and about her moves into contemporary and beyond.  </p><p>We are so grateful to Nalini Singh for making time for us, and for her amazing books.</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>. </p><p>Show Notes</p><ul><li>Welcome <a href="https://nalinisingh.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nalini Singh</a>, author of dozens of romance novels, including several popular paranormal series. You should subscribe to her newsletter on her site! We did <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/12/8/s0415-caressed-by-ice-by-nalini-singh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a deep dive of Caressed by Ice</a> in Season 4.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/401lMqP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Preorder her new thriller</a>, There Should Have Been Eight, coming November 21st, right now.</li><li>Authors &amp; Books: The Time is Short by Nerina Hilliard, Christine Feehan, Sherrilyn Kenyon, Jayne Ann Krentz, Yvonne Lindsay/EV Lind, Karina Bliss, Louisa George, Helen Bianchin, Emma Darcy, JD Robb, Meljean Brook.</li><li>Publishing Professionals: Berkley editor Cindy Hwang, bookseller Barbara Clendon owner of Barbara’s Books.</li><li>A&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/10/17/s0606-trailblazer-nalini-singh#transcript" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">transcript</a>&nbsp;(by a human being!) is available for this episode.</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our Trailblazer conversations continue this week with legend Nalini Singh, whose groundbreaking paranormal series changed the game. We talk about the early days of her writing (when she was a kid!) about building her career in New Zealand, about how she came to publish in the US,  about her beautiful relationships with readers, about the way she thinks about her series and how the stories hang together, and about her moves into contemporary and beyond.  </p><p>We are so grateful to Nalini Singh for making time for us, and for her amazing books.</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, please join our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>. </p><p>Show Notes</p><ul><li>Welcome <a href="https://nalinisingh.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nalini Singh</a>, author of dozens of romance novels, including several popular paranormal series. You should subscribe to her newsletter on her site! We did <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/12/8/s0415-caressed-by-ice-by-nalini-singh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a deep dive of Caressed by Ice</a> in Season 4.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/401lMqP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Preorder her new thriller</a>, There Should Have Been Eight, coming November 21st, right now.</li><li>Authors &amp; Books: The Time is Short by Nerina Hilliard, Christine Feehan, Sherrilyn Kenyon, Jayne Ann Krentz, Yvonne Lindsay/EV Lind, Karina Bliss, Louisa George, Helen Bianchin, Emma Darcy, JD Robb, Meljean Brook.</li><li>Publishing Professionals: Berkley editor Cindy Hwang, bookseller Barbara Clendon owner of Barbara’s Books.</li><li>A&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/10/17/s0606-trailblazer-nalini-singh#transcript" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">transcript</a>&nbsp;(by a human being!) is available for this episode.</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/10/17/s0606-trailblazer-nalini-singh]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:652ec8407f8b2f125cf25e1d</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/e23ed5bb-e738-44da-b8e6-9b2dc77b4a1b/red-trailblazers.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2023 02:29:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/8f0c57b7-47c7-4ab4-be89-92f5552e8ae6/fated-mates-trailblazer-nalini-singh.mp3" length="79866455" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:19:32</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>6</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Our Trailblazer conversations continue this week with legend Nalini Singh, whose groundbreaking paranormal series changed the game. We talk about the early days of her writing (when she was a kid!) about building her career in New Zealand, about how she came to publish in the US,  about her beautiful relationships with readers, about the way she thinks about her series and how the stories hang together, and about her moves into contemporary and beyond.</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/87b843de-859f-42ac-9318-fe03edb5be21/index.html" type="text/html"/><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-8f0c57b7-47c7-4ab4-be89-92f5552e8ae6.json" type="application/json+chapters"/><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="video/youtube" title="S06.06: Trailblazer Nalini Singh"><podcast:source uri="https://youtu.be/N1R3VcyQ62M"/></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>S06.05: Hot For Teacher with Special Guest Lauren Billings</title><itunes:title>Hot For Teacher with Special Guest Lauren Billings</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Oh no! Jen has bronchitis or at least something with bronchitis vibes and her voice is barely with us, so Sarah went rogue and brought Lauren Billings, the Lauren half of Christina Lauren, with her! While Jen is taking this week off, Sarah &amp; Lauren are taking this opportunity to talk about a topic that is deeply Not For Jen™️, Hot for Teacher! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We talk about Anne of Green Gables, Buffy the Vampire Slayer and other teachers who just might have installed our buttons, and then we get to absolutely crushing TBR piles! Headphones in for this one — it is not for all markets, and you’ve been warned!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Jen will be back next week along with a very fun Trailblazer, and then we’ll be tackling our first read along of Season 6, Laura Kinsale’s Flowers from the Storm, available at <a href="https://amzn.to/3NWPHuA">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/flowers-from-the-storm-laura-kinsale/1100252349">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/flowers-from-the-storm/id360606358">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/flowers-from-the-storm">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780380761326">from your local indie</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you want more Fated Mates in your life, you are welcome at our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates">Learn more at patreon.com</a>. </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Oh no! Jen has bronchitis or at least something with bronchitis vibes and her voice is barely with us, so Sarah went rogue and brought Lauren Billings, the Lauren half of Christina Lauren, with her! While Jen is taking this week off, Sarah &amp; Lauren are taking this opportunity to talk about a topic that is deeply Not For Jen™️, Hot for Teacher! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We talk about Anne of Green Gables, Buffy the Vampire Slayer and other teachers who just might have installed our buttons, and then we get to absolutely crushing TBR piles! Headphones in for this one — it is not for all markets, and you’ve been warned!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Jen will be back next week along with a very fun Trailblazer, and then we’ll be tackling our first read along of Season 6, Laura Kinsale’s Flowers from the Storm, available at <a href="https://amzn.to/3NWPHuA">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/flowers-from-the-storm-laura-kinsale/1100252349">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/flowers-from-the-storm/id360606358">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/flowers-from-the-storm">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780380761326">from your local indie</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you want more Fated Mates in your life, you are welcome at our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates">Learn more at patreon.com</a>. </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/10/10/s0605-hot-for-teacher-with-special-guest-lauren-billings]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:6525910150a9cf3fddc81f0d</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/29c2eba9-8fd0-4d1f-b678-fa130ec9ec21/pink-read-along.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2023 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/2d2e2b48-f32d-47da-863e-af57bd743640/fated-mates-hot-for-teacher-romance-books.mp3" length="54431467" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>51:26</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>5</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Oh no! Jen has bronchitis or at least something with bronchitis vibes and her voice is barely with us, so Sarah went rogue and brought Lauren Billings, the Lauren half of Christina Lauren, with her! While Jen is taking this week off, Sarah &amp; Lauren are taking this opportunity to talk about a topic that is deeply Not For Jen™️, Hot for Teacher! 

We talk about Anne of Green Gables, Buffy the Vampire Slayer and other teachers who just might have installed our buttons, and then we get to absolutely crushing TBR piles! Headphones in for this one — it is not for all markets, and you’ve been warned!</itunes:summary></item><item><title>S06.04: Sweater Weather: Romance Novels with Fall Vibes</title><itunes:title>S06.04: Sweater Weather: Romance Novels with Fall Vibes </itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">This week is full ✨vibes✨ and we’re not sorry about it. By request, we’re doing a “Romances for Sweater Weather” which aren’t spooky for Halloween and aren’t (mostly) snowbound romances, but are just…full of apple cinnamon, pumpkin spice, fuzzy socks feelings.  We’re talking about sports, about crunching leaves, about small towns, about pumpkins and about elections, so it must be fall here on the pod. Light that fire, put on that cable knit sweater, and get to reading. We’ve got you sorted. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our first read along of the season will be Laura Kinsale’s Flowers from the Storm, available at <a href="https://amzn.to/3NWPHuA">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/flowers-from-the-storm-laura-kinsale/1100252349">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/flowers-from-the-storm/id360606358">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/flowers-from-the-storm">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780380761326">from your local indie</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you want more Fated Mates in your life, you are welcome at our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Show Notes</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Check out <a href="https://www.louisaedwards.com/">Louisa Edwards</a>’s chef romances. The first is called <a href="https://amzn.to/3RKxsMG">Can’t Stand the Heat.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We like a <a href="https://www.thefashionisto.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Idris-Elba-Details-800x1087.jpg">man</a> in a <a href="https://i.shgcdn.com/b00e110d-b48c-4b89-8f9d-d24a37af498a/-/format/auto/-/preview/3000x3000/-/quality/lighter/">cable</a> <a href="https://www.mrporter.com/cms/ycm/resource/blob/1387346/0c3779daf1c67f5cf519401d7547c676/main-5-4-data.jpg">knit</a> <a href="https://i.pinimg.com/236x/de/c9/c1/dec9c1e356055e8e9ceea8ddcdabd3be--australian-men-chris-hemsworth-thor.jpg">sweater</a>. <a href="https://external-preview.redd.it/867v_l8ZtkvIcxWYMuStwAq0bCrVdhZdtBVGWIcnWuE.jpg?auto=webp&amp;s=81924f532c2a2d8dfb9c3eeff04f23c7b3119a7f">So sue us</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Katy, Texas is home of a<a href="https://kixs.com/most-expensive-and-largest-high-school-stadiums-in-the-state-of-tx/"> lot of football</a> and <a href="https://abc13.com/katy-isd-book-ban-policy-what-books-are-allowed-in-school-library-back-on-shelves/13832143/">a lot of book banning.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We don’t really have any opinion about <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/sports/sporting-scene/kelce-swift-is-a-dream-pairing-for-the-nfl">Taylor Swift’s new boyfriend</a>, but <a href="https://youtu.be/wM_bkqYZS38?si=_MK5nSjcfmZdLSb3">his mom seems great.</a></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">This week is full ✨vibes✨ and we’re not sorry about it. By request, we’re doing a “Romances for Sweater Weather” which aren’t spooky for Halloween and aren’t (mostly) snowbound romances, but are just…full of apple cinnamon, pumpkin spice, fuzzy socks feelings.  We’re talking about sports, about crunching leaves, about small towns, about pumpkins and about elections, so it must be fall here on the pod. Light that fire, put on that cable knit sweater, and get to reading. We’ve got you sorted. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our first read along of the season will be Laura Kinsale’s Flowers from the Storm, available at <a href="https://amzn.to/3NWPHuA">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/flowers-from-the-storm-laura-kinsale/1100252349">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/flowers-from-the-storm/id360606358">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/flowers-from-the-storm">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780380761326">from your local indie</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you want more Fated Mates in your life, you are welcome at our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Show Notes</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Check out <a href="https://www.louisaedwards.com/">Louisa Edwards</a>’s chef romances. The first is called <a href="https://amzn.to/3RKxsMG">Can’t Stand the Heat.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We like a <a href="https://www.thefashionisto.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Idris-Elba-Details-800x1087.jpg">man</a> in a <a href="https://i.shgcdn.com/b00e110d-b48c-4b89-8f9d-d24a37af498a/-/format/auto/-/preview/3000x3000/-/quality/lighter/">cable</a> <a href="https://www.mrporter.com/cms/ycm/resource/blob/1387346/0c3779daf1c67f5cf519401d7547c676/main-5-4-data.jpg">knit</a> <a href="https://i.pinimg.com/236x/de/c9/c1/dec9c1e356055e8e9ceea8ddcdabd3be--australian-men-chris-hemsworth-thor.jpg">sweater</a>. <a href="https://external-preview.redd.it/867v_l8ZtkvIcxWYMuStwAq0bCrVdhZdtBVGWIcnWuE.jpg?auto=webp&amp;s=81924f532c2a2d8dfb9c3eeff04f23c7b3119a7f">So sue us</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Katy, Texas is home of a<a href="https://kixs.com/most-expensive-and-largest-high-school-stadiums-in-the-state-of-tx/"> lot of football</a> and <a href="https://abc13.com/katy-isd-book-ban-policy-what-books-are-allowed-in-school-library-back-on-shelves/13832143/">a lot of book banning.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We don’t really have any opinion about <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/sports/sporting-scene/kelce-swift-is-a-dream-pairing-for-the-nfl">Taylor Swift’s new boyfriend</a>, but <a href="https://youtu.be/wM_bkqYZS38?si=_MK5nSjcfmZdLSb3">his mom seems great.</a></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/10/3/s0604-sweater-weather-romance-novels-with-pumpkin-spice-vibes]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:651c2a820adcb137efb34b97</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/fe7a99f1-d4fb-47a3-b9b0-3ea7a5fd5ac2/pink-read-along.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2023 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/ac1b340a-5154-4151-89b0-89ddf4aee6b5/fated-mates-sweater-weater-fall-books.mp3" length="65005470" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:05:50</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>4</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><itunes:summary>This week is full ✨vibes✨ and we’re not sorry about it. By request, we’re doing a “Romances for Sweater Weather” which aren’t spooky for Halloween and aren’t (mostly) snowbound romances, but are just…full of apple cinnamon, pumpkin spice, fuzzy socks feelings.  We’re talking about sports, about crunching leaves, about small towns, about pumpkins and about elections, so it must be fall here on the pod. Light that fire, put on that cable knit sweater, and get to reading. We’ve got you sorted. </itunes:summary></item><item><title>S06.03: Excellent BIPOC Romance Novels for #23for23</title><itunes:title>S06.03: Excellent BIPOC Romance Novels for #23for23</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We’re so excited for today’s episode—in which we topple TBRs worldwide in support of the #23for23 Challenge! Spearheaded by Adriana Herrera, Nikki Payne and Nisha Sharma, 23 for 23 encourages romance readers to read 23 books by BIPOC authors about BIPOC characters before the end of 2023. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Nikki Payne joins us for a bit to talk about the challenge and why it’s important, and to lay out some clear ways we can all help boost BIPOC books and authors….and then we get down to business, recommending a truly enormous number of books. Get your pencils ready, you’re going to want to take several notes. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Learn more about the #23for23Challenge and see the full list of participating authors at <a href="https://www.23for23.net/">23for23.net</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our first read along of the season will be Laura Kinsale’s Flowers from the Storm, available at <a href="https://amzn.to/3NWPHuA">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/flowers-from-the-storm-laura-kinsale/1100252349">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/flowers-from-the-storm/id360606358">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/flowers-from-the-storm">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780380761326">from your local indie</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you want more Fated Mates in your life, you are welcome at our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We’re so excited for today’s episode—in which we topple TBRs worldwide in support of the #23for23 Challenge! Spearheaded by Adriana Herrera, Nikki Payne and Nisha Sharma, 23 for 23 encourages romance readers to read 23 books by BIPOC authors about BIPOC characters before the end of 2023. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Nikki Payne joins us for a bit to talk about the challenge and why it’s important, and to lay out some clear ways we can all help boost BIPOC books and authors….and then we get down to business, recommending a truly enormous number of books. Get your pencils ready, you’re going to want to take several notes. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Learn more about the #23for23Challenge and see the full list of participating authors at <a href="https://www.23for23.net/">23for23.net</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our first read along of the season will be Laura Kinsale’s Flowers from the Storm, available at <a href="https://amzn.to/3NWPHuA">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/flowers-from-the-storm-laura-kinsale/1100252349">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/flowers-from-the-storm/id360606358">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/flowers-from-the-storm">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780380761326">from your local indie</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you want more Fated Mates in your life, you are welcome at our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/9/26/s0603-the-23-for-23-challenge-with-guest-nikki-payne]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:651321bdf2458210e6141798</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bfa3eac7-624d-4e1b-90b4-07dabcb83710/1.jpeg"/><pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2023 02:06:33 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/e5c25b7d-bc94-43be-9fb9-a01fe5121eed/fated-mates-excellent-bipoc-romance-novels.mp3" length="124630424" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>02:04:42</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>3</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We’re so excited for today’s episode—in which we topple TBRs worldwide in support of the #23for23 Challenge! Spearheaded by Adriana Herrera, Nikki Payne and Nisha Sharma, 23 for 23 encourages romance readers to read 23 books by BIPOC authors about BIPOC characters before the end of 2023. 

Nikki Payne joins us for a bit to talk about the challenge and why it’s important, and to lay out some clear ways we can all help boost BIPOC books and authors….and then we get down to business, recommending a truly enormous number of books. Get your pencils ready, you’re going to want to take several notes. </itunes:summary></item><item><title>S06.02: The Full Banana</title><itunes:title>S06.02: The Full Banana</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We’re so excited you’re with us for this season! The first interstitial episode of Season 6 drops today and it’s the full banana, meaning—here’s where we talk about the absolutely bonkers romance novels we’ve encountered over our decades of romance reading. Sentient doors, 24-ounces of liquid, gorilla attacks, kinky bank robbers, and Tarzan retellings are here…and so much more!  </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our first read along of the season will be Laura Kinsale’s Flowers from the Storm, available at <a href="https://amzn.to/3NWPHuA">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/flowers-from-the-storm-laura-kinsale/1100252349">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/flowers-from-the-storm/id360606358">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/flowers-from-the-storm">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780380761326">from your local indie</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you want more Fated Mates in your life, you are welcome at our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Show Notes</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We had a great time at <a href="https://romancefictionconference.yale.edu/program-september-8-9-2023">the Popular Romance Fiction conference at Yale.</a> We met <a href="https://www.cvbell.com/">Carole Bell</a>, one of our favorite reviewers. We were also joined on our panel by Julie Moody-Freeman of the Black Romance Podcast and Kinohi Nishikawa from Princeton. Our moderator was Jeania Ree Moore, a PhD student at Yale and one of the lead organizers of the conference. It was spectacular, as were all the panels and classes at the event.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Jen has decided, a group of Magnificent Firebirds is <a href="https://www.worldhistory.org/article/110/the-greek-phalanx/">a phalanx</a>, it just rolls off the tongue: a phalanx of firebirds!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Check out the great selection of romances and book boxes <a href="https://www.pocketbooksshop.com/">at Pocket Books Shop in Lancaster, PA</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The drilldo book is called <a href="https://amzn.to/45YzSvb">Laying Pipe by Kate Allure</a>, and here’s <a href="https://x.com/JenniferRNN/status/999411356116938753?s=20">a little illustration from our fave, Jennifer Porter</a>. Don’t worry future Fated Mates listener, I took a screenshot for posterity once twitter is gone for good.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">You can listen to Sarah do a deep dive on <a href="https://learningthetropes.podbean.com/e/the-earl-takes-all-by-lorraine-heath-w-sarah-maclean-episode-48/">Gorilla Twins over at Learning the Tropes.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">You should really watch the movie <a href="https://youtu.be/UffK-IHM1B0?si=zoKAYWZsNo8Ut8Ad">Lone Star</a> starring<a href="https://www.theringer.com/movies/2021/6/21/22542725/lone-star-john-sayles-texas-cop-chris-cooper-matthew-mcconaughey"> Chris Cooper, Elizabeth Peña, and a young Matthew McConaughey</a>, but we are less sure if you should read <a href="https://amzn.to/3sXEa7r">The Elegance of the Hedgehog</a>.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We’re so excited you’re with us for this season! The first interstitial episode of Season 6 drops today and it’s the full banana, meaning—here’s where we talk about the absolutely bonkers romance novels we’ve encountered over our decades of romance reading. Sentient doors, 24-ounces of liquid, gorilla attacks, kinky bank robbers, and Tarzan retellings are here…and so much more!  </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our first read along of the season will be Laura Kinsale’s Flowers from the Storm, available at <a href="https://amzn.to/3NWPHuA">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/flowers-from-the-storm-laura-kinsale/1100252349">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/flowers-from-the-storm/id360606358">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/flowers-from-the-storm">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780380761326">from your local indie</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you want more Fated Mates in your life, you are welcome at our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Show Notes</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We had a great time at <a href="https://romancefictionconference.yale.edu/program-september-8-9-2023">the Popular Romance Fiction conference at Yale.</a> We met <a href="https://www.cvbell.com/">Carole Bell</a>, one of our favorite reviewers. We were also joined on our panel by Julie Moody-Freeman of the Black Romance Podcast and Kinohi Nishikawa from Princeton. Our moderator was Jeania Ree Moore, a PhD student at Yale and one of the lead organizers of the conference. It was spectacular, as were all the panels and classes at the event.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Jen has decided, a group of Magnificent Firebirds is <a href="https://www.worldhistory.org/article/110/the-greek-phalanx/">a phalanx</a>, it just rolls off the tongue: a phalanx of firebirds!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Check out the great selection of romances and book boxes <a href="https://www.pocketbooksshop.com/">at Pocket Books Shop in Lancaster, PA</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The drilldo book is called <a href="https://amzn.to/45YzSvb">Laying Pipe by Kate Allure</a>, and here’s <a href="https://x.com/JenniferRNN/status/999411356116938753?s=20">a little illustration from our fave, Jennifer Porter</a>. Don’t worry future Fated Mates listener, I took a screenshot for posterity once twitter is gone for good.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">You can listen to Sarah do a deep dive on <a href="https://learningthetropes.podbean.com/e/the-earl-takes-all-by-lorraine-heath-w-sarah-maclean-episode-48/">Gorilla Twins over at Learning the Tropes.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">You should really watch the movie <a href="https://youtu.be/UffK-IHM1B0?si=zoKAYWZsNo8Ut8Ad">Lone Star</a> starring<a href="https://www.theringer.com/movies/2021/6/21/22542725/lone-star-john-sayles-texas-cop-chris-cooper-matthew-mcconaughey"> Chris Cooper, Elizabeth Peña, and a young Matthew McConaughey</a>, but we are less sure if you should read <a href="https://amzn.to/3sXEa7r">The Elegance of the Hedgehog</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/9/19/s0602-the-full-banana]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:650a0ff807a25b2fe725dcfb</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/f47a40c7-b7d7-47ba-9f96-2ba57ee9feca/pink-read-along.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2023 03:02:57 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/762c03c5-7382-472f-9ec4-9c9f494040b5/fated-mates-the-full-banana.mp3" length="82068113" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:18:56</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>2</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We’re so excited you’re with us for this season! The first interstitial episode of Season 6 drops today and it’s the full banana, meaning—here’s where we talk about the absolutely bonkers romance novels we’ve encountered over our decades of romance reading. Sentient doors, 24-ounces of liquid, gorilla attacks, kinky bank robbers, and Tarzan retellings are here…and so much more!  </itunes:summary></item><item><title>S06.01: Trailblazer Jackie Collins</title><itunes:title>S06.01: Trailblazer Jackie Collins</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Season Six! How is this even possible!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://fatedmates.net/the-books">Season One</a> gave us a full lAD deep dive (if you’ve never read Kresley Cole’s Immortals After Dark, general existential malaise is a really good reason to start), and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/season-two-books-that-blooded-us">Season Two</a> gave us The Books That Blooded Us, the books that made us the romance readers we are. <a href="https://fatedmates.net/season-three-back-on-our-bullsht" target="">Season Three</a> was during a pandemic, and celebrated that thing we were all desperate for—joy. <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/category/S04">Season Four</a> introduced the Trailblazer episodes, where we featured interviews with the people who have built the romance house over the last fifty years. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Season Five built on all of that, deep diving on books that are new and fabulous, old and transformative, and generally celebrating the vast and magnificent romance pool. Season six will do the same. We’ve got interstitials, trailblazers, read alongs and interviews planned, so head over to your favorite podcasting app and subscribe so you don’t miss a minute. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The season launches today with what we thing is an absolute banger—a trailblazer episode about Jackie Collins, legend, juggernaut, author and lady boss, who was gone too soon. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We’re so lucky to have had a chance to talk to Collins’s daughters, Rory Green and Tiffany Lerman, who were immensely generous with their time and storytelling, to talk about their mother’s life and work. We love this conversation, and are so grateful to Ms. Green and Ms. Lerman for their time. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our first read along of the season will be Laura Kinsale’s Flowers from the Storm, available at <a href="https://amzn.to/3NWPHuA">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/flowers-from-the-storm-laura-kinsale/1100252349">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/flowers-from-the-storm/id360606358">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/flowers-from-the-storm">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780380761326">from your local indie</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you want more Fated Mates in your life, you are welcome at our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Show Notes</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/20/books/jackie-collins-best-selling-author-of-hollywood-tales-dies-at-77.html">Jackie Collins died in 2015</a>. You should watch <a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81464170">the Netflix documentary Lady Boss</a> for more about Jackie’s life, as well as <a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/jackiecollins">her YouTube channel.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Chels wrote a great essay about <a href="https://theloosecravat.substack.com/p/shame">the infamous interview between Barbara Cartland &amp; Jackie Collins</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Authors and publishing professionals mentioned <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enid_Blyton">Enid Blyton</a>, <a href="https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/lifestyle/lifestyle-news/revisiting-harold-robbins-forgotten-dirty-old-man-american-letters-1221836/">Harold Robbins</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidney_Sheldon">Sidney Sheldon</a>, her editor was Suzanne Baboneau at Simon &amp; Schuster.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Season Six! How is this even possible!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://fatedmates.net/the-books">Season One</a> gave us a full lAD deep dive (if you’ve never read Kresley Cole’s Immortals After Dark, general existential malaise is a really good reason to start), and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/season-two-books-that-blooded-us">Season Two</a> gave us The Books That Blooded Us, the books that made us the romance readers we are. <a href="https://fatedmates.net/season-three-back-on-our-bullsht" target="">Season Three</a> was during a pandemic, and celebrated that thing we were all desperate for—joy. <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/category/S04">Season Four</a> introduced the Trailblazer episodes, where we featured interviews with the people who have built the romance house over the last fifty years. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Season Five built on all of that, deep diving on books that are new and fabulous, old and transformative, and generally celebrating the vast and magnificent romance pool. Season six will do the same. We’ve got interstitials, trailblazers, read alongs and interviews planned, so head over to your favorite podcasting app and subscribe so you don’t miss a minute. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The season launches today with what we thing is an absolute banger—a trailblazer episode about Jackie Collins, legend, juggernaut, author and lady boss, who was gone too soon. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We’re so lucky to have had a chance to talk to Collins’s daughters, Rory Green and Tiffany Lerman, who were immensely generous with their time and storytelling, to talk about their mother’s life and work. We love this conversation, and are so grateful to Ms. Green and Ms. Lerman for their time. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our first read along of the season will be Laura Kinsale’s Flowers from the Storm, available at <a href="https://amzn.to/3NWPHuA">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/flowers-from-the-storm-laura-kinsale/1100252349">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/flowers-from-the-storm/id360606358">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/flowers-from-the-storm">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780380761326">from your local indie</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you want more Fated Mates in your life, you are welcome at our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Show Notes</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/20/books/jackie-collins-best-selling-author-of-hollywood-tales-dies-at-77.html">Jackie Collins died in 2015</a>. You should watch <a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81464170">the Netflix documentary Lady Boss</a> for more about Jackie’s life, as well as <a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/jackiecollins">her YouTube channel.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Chels wrote a great essay about <a href="https://theloosecravat.substack.com/p/shame">the infamous interview between Barbara Cartland &amp; Jackie Collins</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Authors and publishing professionals mentioned <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enid_Blyton">Enid Blyton</a>, <a href="https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/lifestyle/lifestyle-news/revisiting-harold-robbins-forgotten-dirty-old-man-american-letters-1221836/">Harold Robbins</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidney_Sheldon">Sidney Sheldon</a>, her editor was Suzanne Baboneau at Simon &amp; Schuster.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/9/11/s0601-trailblazer-jackie-collins]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:64ffbe41f1e0134c4b5ccd90</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/f10b1c58-b74c-4481-bbc2-d99a0ca2f1ff/red-trailblazers.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2023 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/46835f80-0863-4336-986b-4011ed2efce9/fated-mates-jackie-collins-trailblazer.mp3" length="86175532" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:24:33</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>1</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Season Six! How is this even possible!

Season One gave us a full lAD deep dive (if you’ve never read Kresley Cole’s Immortals After Dark, general existential malaise is a really good reason to start), and Season Two gave us The Books That Blooded Us, the books that made us the romance readers we are. Season Three was during a pandemic, and celebrated that thing we were all desperate for—joy. Season Four introduced the Trailblazer episodes, where we featured interviews with the people who have built the romance house over the last fifty years. 

Season Five built on all of that, deep diving on books that are new and fabulous, old and transformative, and generally celebrating the vast and magnificent romance pool. Season six will do the same. We’ve got interstitials, trailblazers, read alongs and interviews planned, so head over to your favorite podcasting app and subscribe so you don’t miss a minute. 

The season launches today with what we thing is an absolute banger—a trailblazer episode about Jackie Collins, legend, juggernaut, author and lady boss, who was gone too soon. 

We’re so lucky to have had a chance to talk to Collins’s daughters, Rory Green and Tiffany Lerman, who were immensely generous with their time and storytelling, to talk about their mother’s life and work. We love this conversation, and are so grateful to Ms. Green and Ms. Lerman for their time. </itunes:summary></item><item><title>Season Six Starts This Week!</title><itunes:title>Season Six Starts This Week!</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[Here’s a short one — our first episode of Season 6 is a trailblazer (AND A GREAT ONE) — so here’s a little glimpse of where we’ve been during hiatus, and where we’re going this season! 

Thanks, as always, for being with us! ]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[Here’s a short one — our first episode of Season 6 is a trailblazer (AND A GREAT ONE) — so here’s a little glimpse of where we’ve been during hiatus, and where we’re going this season! 

Thanks, as always, for being with us! ]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/9/11/season-six-starts-this-week]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:64ff497e7fb3b4497589e33c</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/19c9074a-6d25-432f-83e6-ee8b59ff759b/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2023 18:58:27 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/e665b561-1135-4bbe-9f3e-a869b26a57f8/season-6tease.mp3" length="6946788" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>06:54</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>57</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>57</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Here’s a short one — our first episode of Season 6 is a trailblazer (AND A GREAT ONE) — so here’s a little glimpse of where we’ve been during hiatus, and where we’re going this season! 

Thanks, as always, for being with us! </itunes:summary></item><item><title>Hiatus: Sarah on Failure to Adapt</title><itunes:title>Hiatus: Sarah on Failure to Adapt</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Season six is almost here, but not quite yet. To keep you entertained, we’re sharing Sarah’s latest appearance on the excellent Failure to Adapt podcast. FM listeners will thoroughly enjoy this discussion of the 1933 short story <em>Night Bus</em> and the 1934 film adaptation It Happened One Night. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Listen to Failure to Adapt on <a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1582314012/failure-to-adapt">Overcast</a>, <a href="https://podcastaddict.com/podcast/failure-to-adapt/3594011">Podcast Addict</a>, <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/failure-to-adapt/id1582314012">Apple Podcasts</a>, and anywhere you enjoy podcasts. You can also keep up with the show on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/failuretoadaptpodcast/">Instagram</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Maggie’s next book <a href="https://www.prettyokmaggie.com/">The Siren, the Song, and the Spy</a> drops later this month. </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Season six is almost here, but not quite yet. To keep you entertained, we’re sharing Sarah’s latest appearance on the excellent Failure to Adapt podcast. FM listeners will thoroughly enjoy this discussion of the 1933 short story <em>Night Bus</em> and the 1934 film adaptation It Happened One Night. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Listen to Failure to Adapt on <a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1582314012/failure-to-adapt">Overcast</a>, <a href="https://podcastaddict.com/podcast/failure-to-adapt/3594011">Podcast Addict</a>, <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/failure-to-adapt/id1582314012">Apple Podcasts</a>, and anywhere you enjoy podcasts. You can also keep up with the show on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/failuretoadaptpodcast/">Instagram</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Maggie’s next book <a href="https://www.prettyokmaggie.com/">The Siren, the Song, and the Spy</a> drops later this month. </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/9/9/hiatus-sarah-on-failure-to-adapt]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:64fc8e0928693a3fb368d988</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/3a8062b3-aa01-4d55-abb0-84786c784b92/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Sat, 09 Sep 2023 15:50:02 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/bddcf4d8-6a3c-49ed-a922-78548c275ea3/fated-mates-failure-to-adapt.mp3" length="73567988" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:16:02</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>56</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>56</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Season six is almost here, but not quite yet. To keep you entertained, we’re sharing Sarah’s latest appearance on the excellent Failure to Adapt podcast. FM listeners will thoroughly enjoy this discussion of the 1933 short story Night Bus and the 1934 film adaptation It Happened One Night. </itunes:summary></item><item><title>Hiatus: Jen and Sarah&apos;s Likewise Chat</title><itunes:title>Hiatus: Jen and Sarah&apos;s Likewise Chat</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We’re still on hiatus, but we’ve got more goodies for you. We recently stopped by <a href="https://likewise.com/">Likewise</a> for a chat, and they were gracious enough to let us share it with you. We talked about romance novels and recommended books, if you can imagine. There’s no host. It’s just us. So give it a listen! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you’re looking for more fun stuff to fill the time between now and next week’s season six premiere, we’ve got plenty of Bantr+ and Five Minute Firebird at <a href="http://fatedmates.net/patreon">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">And check out <a href="https://likewise.com/">Likewise</a> to get great recommended TV, film, podcasts, and BOOKS! </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We’re still on hiatus, but we’ve got more goodies for you. We recently stopped by <a href="https://likewise.com/">Likewise</a> for a chat, and they were gracious enough to let us share it with you. We talked about romance novels and recommended books, if you can imagine. There’s no host. It’s just us. So give it a listen! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you’re looking for more fun stuff to fill the time between now and next week’s season six premiere, we’ve got plenty of Bantr+ and Five Minute Firebird at <a href="http://fatedmates.net/patreon">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">And check out <a href="https://likewise.com/">Likewise</a> to get great recommended TV, film, podcasts, and BOOKS! </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/9/4/hiatus-jen-and-sarahs-likewise-chat]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:64f60bedf119f94e9e86fc21</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/5c129c0a-539f-4d2a-96d1-6fdac85b6ffd/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2023 19:07:33 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/a420bb17-5f56-4c8f-8ebd-793ee8f0f505/fated-mates-likewise-chat-revb.mp3" length="47330041" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>48:46</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>55</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>55</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We’re still on hiatus, but we’ve got more goodies for you. We recently stopped by Likewise for a chat, and they were gracious enough to let us share it with you. We talked about romance novels and recommended books, if you can imagine. There’s no host. It’s just us. So give it a listen! </itunes:summary></item><item><title>Hiatus: Five Minute Firebird with Christina Lauren</title><itunes:title>Hiatus: Five Minute Firebird with Christina Lauren</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We’re on hiatus this week (next week, too!), but we miss you, so we’re bringing you treats! On our Patreon, we host a short-video conversation series with our favorite people, sometimes about romance, and mostly about other things they are into. We’ve had Adriana Herrera, Dani from Ice Planet Pod, Maureen Lee Lenker, Eloisa James and Jen’s friend Ernie, among others! This week we thought we’d share the audio from our chat with Christina Lauren, which, as you can imagine, is more than five minutes. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Enjoy this fun chat with our friends and stay tuned for more goodies over the next two weeks…and learn more about our Patreon at <a href="http://fatedmates.net/patreon">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>! </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We’re on hiatus this week (next week, too!), but we miss you, so we’re bringing you treats! On our Patreon, we host a short-video conversation series with our favorite people, sometimes about romance, and mostly about other things they are into. We’ve had Adriana Herrera, Dani from Ice Planet Pod, Maureen Lee Lenker, Eloisa James and Jen’s friend Ernie, among others! This week we thought we’d share the audio from our chat with Christina Lauren, which, as you can imagine, is more than five minutes. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Enjoy this fun chat with our friends and stay tuned for more goodies over the next two weeks…and learn more about our Patreon at <a href="http://fatedmates.net/patreon">fatedmates.net/patreon</a>! </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/8/29/qjtludfzuxxl3jj69xqk7rj0kfzv5n]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:64eeabd8a4f76f4c9f27a128</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/90fd5112-c5f2-4b7a-b166-04375f618465/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2023 03:49:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/f7ce83d6-5835-4eb2-9d67-bf19fd16a3e2/fated-mates-five-minute-firebird-christina-lauren.mp3" length="14851937" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>14:56</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>54</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>54</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We’re on hiatus this week (next week, too!), but we miss you, so we’re bringing you treats! On our Patreon, we host a short-video conversation series with our favorite people, sometimes about romance, and mostly about other things they are into. We’ve had Adriana Herrera, Dani from Ice Planet Pod, Maureen Lee Lenker, Eloisa James and Jen’s friend Ernie, among others! This week we thought we’d share the audio from our chat with Christina Lauren, which, as you can imagine, is more than five minutes. </itunes:summary></item><item><title>S05.49: Knockout: #TommyGoBoom</title><itunes:title>S05.49: Knockout: #TommyGoBoom</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Sarah has a new book out, so as is tradition for our last episode of the season, Jen is playing host, and Sarah is playing guest, and we’re talking about this gorgeous cover, about secrets and power, about Exasperated Man vibes, about characters having to learn lessons, about writing propulsive stories, about how bored Sarah gets by ballrooms and about how fun it is to write in a big fictional, fantasy world. Jen talks about how Bruce Springsteen understands romance novels better than most people. </p><p>It’s mostly a spoiler free episode, but you might prefer to finish your read before listening. Enjoy! And don’t miss the first two chapters of the magnificent Knockout audiobook, narrated by the incomparable Mary Jane Wells, at the end of the episode! </p><p>If you still haven’t got a copy of <a href="https://amzn.to/3WzxuFG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Knockout</a>, you can <a href="https://bookclubbar.com/item/MEgaIBq6_d9RZu1a9iHP4A" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">get it signed, with exclusive FM swag, from Book Club Bar in NYC</a>, or&nbsp;at <a href="https://amzn.to/3WzxuFG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/knockoutBN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/KnockoutKobo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://apple.co/3R24ipI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or in print from <a href="https://bit.ly/KnockoutIndie" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local independent bookseller</a>.</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, you are welcome at our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p>Lil Romance is in Europe, and apparently will become very familiar <a href="https://www.eurail.com/en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with Eurail.</a> Why because Europe is so small compared to the US, for example, check out <a href="https://vividmaps.com/great-lakes/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this map of the Great Lakes basin compared to the continent of Europe.</a></p><p><a href="https://hbr.org/2021/02/stop-telling-women-they-have-imposter-syndrome" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Imposter syndrome</a> explained.</p><p>Join us in New Haven CT at the <a href="https://romancefictionconference.yale.edu/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Yale Romance Conference Sept 8-9, 2023</a>. We are both very excited to meet <a href="https://www.cvbell.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Carole Bell</a>, a romance advocate and a crackerjack reviewer. If you are listening to this the day it released, you can tune into <a href="https://likewise.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Likewise</a> tonight and hear us chatting about Knockout and recommending books.</p><p>Read Adriana's <a href="https://amzn.to/3E569Eq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">An Island Princess Starts a Scandal</a>.</p><p>Sounds like if you need to learn more about explosions, gunpowder, nitroglycerine, and TNT, the person to call is <a href="https://www.authorelenaarmas.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Elena Armas</a>. <a href="https://amzn.to/45duCn2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Preorder The Long Game</a>, which comes out on Sept 5, 2023.</p><p>Other pirate ship desks include: Chase's desk in <a href="https://amzn.to/3E3VdXU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Never Judge a Lady By Her Cover</a>, Whit's desk in <a href="https://amzn.to/3skUYFl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brazen &amp; the Beast</a>, and Max's desk in <a href="https://amzn.to/3Ec2rJa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Duke Worth Falling For</a>.</p><p>In 2005, Bruce Springsteen was on VH1’s Storytellers, <a href="https://youtu.be/Wv8p5aK-CGE?si=tOpVFSTw4RiW36ZU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">and his description of the work of Thunder</a> Road is exactly how we think of the work of romance. Watch all the way until the end, when he says, “Nothing left but the ride. So this was my big invitation to my audience, to myself, to anybody that was interested. My invitation to a long and earthly, very earthly journey, hopefully in the company of someone you love, people you love, and in search of a home that you can feel a part of.” A perfect description of the romance genre, Bruce!</p><p>The Hell's Belles playlist got a major Knockout update. Listen on <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7zeeIxb91z68siuNVe9kXJ?si=2d755d6ee0c94396" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spotify</a> and <a href="https://music.apple.com/us/playlist/hells-belles/pl.u-17YtvJrar" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Music.</a></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah has a new book out, so as is tradition for our last episode of the season, Jen is playing host, and Sarah is playing guest, and we’re talking about this gorgeous cover, about secrets and power, about Exasperated Man vibes, about characters having to learn lessons, about writing propulsive stories, about how bored Sarah gets by ballrooms and about how fun it is to write in a big fictional, fantasy world. Jen talks about how Bruce Springsteen understands romance novels better than most people. </p><p>It’s mostly a spoiler free episode, but you might prefer to finish your read before listening. Enjoy! And don’t miss the first two chapters of the magnificent Knockout audiobook, narrated by the incomparable Mary Jane Wells, at the end of the episode! </p><p>If you still haven’t got a copy of <a href="https://amzn.to/3WzxuFG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Knockout</a>, you can <a href="https://bookclubbar.com/item/MEgaIBq6_d9RZu1a9iHP4A" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">get it signed, with exclusive FM swag, from Book Club Bar in NYC</a>, or&nbsp;at <a href="https://amzn.to/3WzxuFG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/knockoutBN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/KnockoutKobo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://apple.co/3R24ipI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or in print from <a href="https://bit.ly/KnockoutIndie" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local independent bookseller</a>.</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, you are welcome at our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p>Lil Romance is in Europe, and apparently will become very familiar <a href="https://www.eurail.com/en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with Eurail.</a> Why because Europe is so small compared to the US, for example, check out <a href="https://vividmaps.com/great-lakes/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this map of the Great Lakes basin compared to the continent of Europe.</a></p><p><a href="https://hbr.org/2021/02/stop-telling-women-they-have-imposter-syndrome" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Imposter syndrome</a> explained.</p><p>Join us in New Haven CT at the <a href="https://romancefictionconference.yale.edu/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Yale Romance Conference Sept 8-9, 2023</a>. We are both very excited to meet <a href="https://www.cvbell.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Carole Bell</a>, a romance advocate and a crackerjack reviewer. If you are listening to this the day it released, you can tune into <a href="https://likewise.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Likewise</a> tonight and hear us chatting about Knockout and recommending books.</p><p>Read Adriana's <a href="https://amzn.to/3E569Eq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">An Island Princess Starts a Scandal</a>.</p><p>Sounds like if you need to learn more about explosions, gunpowder, nitroglycerine, and TNT, the person to call is <a href="https://www.authorelenaarmas.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Elena Armas</a>. <a href="https://amzn.to/45duCn2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Preorder The Long Game</a>, which comes out on Sept 5, 2023.</p><p>Other pirate ship desks include: Chase's desk in <a href="https://amzn.to/3E3VdXU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Never Judge a Lady By Her Cover</a>, Whit's desk in <a href="https://amzn.to/3skUYFl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brazen &amp; the Beast</a>, and Max's desk in <a href="https://amzn.to/3Ec2rJa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Duke Worth Falling For</a>.</p><p>In 2005, Bruce Springsteen was on VH1’s Storytellers, <a href="https://youtu.be/Wv8p5aK-CGE?si=tOpVFSTw4RiW36ZU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">and his description of the work of Thunder</a> Road is exactly how we think of the work of romance. Watch all the way until the end, when he says, “Nothing left but the ride. So this was my big invitation to my audience, to myself, to anybody that was interested. My invitation to a long and earthly, very earthly journey, hopefully in the company of someone you love, people you love, and in search of a home that you can feel a part of.” A perfect description of the romance genre, Bruce!</p><p>The Hell's Belles playlist got a major Knockout update. Listen on <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7zeeIxb91z68siuNVe9kXJ?si=2d755d6ee0c94396" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spotify</a> and <a href="https://music.apple.com/us/playlist/hells-belles/pl.u-17YtvJrar" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Music.</a></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/8/17/s0549-knockout]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:64de86b450f77f51a862e8df</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/12883187-a243-4800-af7d-816cc09c2d66/fm-knockout-episode.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2023 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/1ae34267-42ff-499d-8069-601c2673ed97/fated-mates-sarah-macleans-knockout-deep-dive-reva.mp3" length="115143157" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:54:12</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>53</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>53</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Sarah has a new book out, so as is tradition for our last episode of the season, Jen is playing host, and Sarah is playing guest, and we’re talking about this gorgeous cover, about secrets and power, about Exasperated Man vibes, about characters having to learn lessons, about writing propulsive stories, about how bored Sarah gets by ballrooms and about how fun it is to write in a big fictional, fantasy world. Jen talks about how Bruce Springsteen understands romance novels better than most people. 

It’s mostly a spoiler free episode, but you might prefer to finish your read before listening. Enjoy! And don’t miss the first two chapters of the magnificent Knockout audiobook, narrated by the incomparable Mary Jane Wells, at the end of the episode!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-1ae34267-42ff-499d-8069-601c2673ed97.json" type="application/json+chapters"/><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="video/youtube" title="S05.49: Knockout: #TommyGoBoom"><podcast:source uri="https://youtu.be/WvBpYsZT8M8"/></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>05.48: Grumpy/Sunshine Romance: Exasperated Man™️</title><itunes:title>05.48: Grumpy/Sunshine Romance: Exasperated Man™️</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We’re talking about a classic trope that we’ve somehow missed over five seasons — Grumpy/Sunshine! Of course our favorite brand of this particular trope is what our friend B.andherbooks calls “Exasperated Man™️,” but we’re talking about the whole continuum of grumps and sunshines, including grumpy women (because it’s 2023, and aren’t most women pretty grumpy, honestly).  Check out this list of books, and share your own faves! </p><p>Next week, we’re reading <a href="https://amzn.to/3WzxuFG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Knockout</a>! <a href="https://bookclubbar.com/item/MEgaIBq6_d9RZu1a9iHP4A" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Get it signed, with exclusive FM swag, from Book Club Bar in NYC</a>), our next read along will be Laura Kinsale’s Flowers from the Storm, available at <a href="https://amzn.to/3NWPHuA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/flowers-from-the-storm-laura-kinsale/1100252349" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/flowers-from-the-storm/id360606358" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/flowers-from-the-storm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780380761326" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local indie</a>.</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, you are welcome at our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p>Show Notes</p><p>AI is <a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/artificial-intelligence-phone-scam-fake-voice/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">for scamming</a>, and <a href="https://www.themarysue.com/a-new-ai-book-scam-just-dropped/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">scamming</a>, and <a href="https://www.popsci.com/technology/natural-disaster-scam-ai-art/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">more scamming</a>.</p><p>Perhaps you, too, would like to see Denzel Washington not as the enforcer, but as the Equalizer. <a href="https://youtu.be/ZsrahE6znRA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The 3rd installment will be released on Sept 1, 2023.</a></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We’re talking about a classic trope that we’ve somehow missed over five seasons — Grumpy/Sunshine! Of course our favorite brand of this particular trope is what our friend B.andherbooks calls “Exasperated Man™️,” but we’re talking about the whole continuum of grumps and sunshines, including grumpy women (because it’s 2023, and aren’t most women pretty grumpy, honestly).  Check out this list of books, and share your own faves! </p><p>Next week, we’re reading <a href="https://amzn.to/3WzxuFG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Knockout</a>! <a href="https://bookclubbar.com/item/MEgaIBq6_d9RZu1a9iHP4A" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Get it signed, with exclusive FM swag, from Book Club Bar in NYC</a>), our next read along will be Laura Kinsale’s Flowers from the Storm, available at <a href="https://amzn.to/3NWPHuA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/flowers-from-the-storm-laura-kinsale/1100252349" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/flowers-from-the-storm/id360606358" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/flowers-from-the-storm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780380761326" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local indie</a>.</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, you are welcome at our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p>Show Notes</p><p>AI is <a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/artificial-intelligence-phone-scam-fake-voice/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">for scamming</a>, and <a href="https://www.themarysue.com/a-new-ai-book-scam-just-dropped/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">scamming</a>, and <a href="https://www.popsci.com/technology/natural-disaster-scam-ai-art/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">more scamming</a>.</p><p>Perhaps you, too, would like to see Denzel Washington not as the enforcer, but as the Equalizer. <a href="https://youtu.be/ZsrahE6znRA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The 3rd installment will be released on Sept 1, 2023.</a></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/8/15/0548-grumpysunshine-romance]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:64dbee529a258238fcf9ea6b</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/ed762019-5f76-4a20-9913-20ffb2f7fb72/pink-read-along.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2023 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/1ba3224d-a94c-4ae8-b3fa-632b43bc3cf3/fated-mates-grumpy-sunshine.mp3" length="79163973" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:15:26</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>52</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>52</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We’re talking about a classic trope that we’ve somehow missed over five seasons — Grumpy/Sunshine! Of course our favorite brand of this particular trope is what our friend B.andherbooks calls “Exasperated Man™️,” but we’re talking about the whole continuum of grumps and sunshines, including grumpy women (because it’s 2023, and aren’t most women pretty grumpy, honestly).  Check out this list of books, and share your own faves!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-1ba3224d-a94c-4ae8-b3fa-632b43bc3cf3.json" type="application/json+chapters"/><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="video/youtube" title="05.48: Grumpy/Sunshine Romance: Exasperated Man™️"><podcast:source uri="https://youtu.be/7IFKaxgpaCA"/></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>S05.47: Fairy Tale Retellings with Zoraida Córdova</title><itunes:title>S05.47: Fairy Tale Retellings with Zoraida Córdova</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We’re talking fairytale retellings today with Zoraida Córdova, the author of Kiss the Girl, a new retelling of The Little Mermaid. We talk about the responsibility of authors when they tackle retellings, about the relevance of fairytales in the world, about the history of fairytales, and about why they resonate so powerfully with us as authors and readers. </p><p>After Sarah’s Knockout (<a href="https://bit.ly/KnockoutWord" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">preorder it signed, with exclusive FM swag, from her local bookstore</a>), our next read along will be Laura Kinsale’s Flowers from the Storm. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3NWPHuA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/flowers-from-the-storm-laura-kinsale/1100252349" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/flowers-from-the-storm/id360606358" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/flowers-from-the-storm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780380761326" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local indie</a>.</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, you are welcome at our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p>Show Notes</p><p>Welcome back, <a href="https://zoraidacordova.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Zoraida Córdova</a>. She was on the podcast back in Season 3 <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/6/8/s0342-fantasy-romance-interstitial-with-zoraida-crdova" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">talking about fantasy romance</a>. Kiss the Girl is a Little Mermaid retelling, and the third book in the <a href="https://amzn.to/3DLIB7o" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Meant to Be series.</a> You can check out her other mermaid books, a YA series that starts with <a href="https://amzn.to/3KsLMVC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Viscous Deep</a>, or the forthcoming anthology <a href="https://amzn.to/3KzzHOm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mermaids Never Drown.</a></p><p>Are we billionaires from winning the <a href="https://apnews.com/article/mega-millions-jackpot-lottery-8397543de852fc4c716cc2ce940d9eac" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MegaMillions?</a> Probably not. But if we did, Jen is planning to renovate the <a href="https://www.chicago.gov/content/dam/city/depts/zlup/Historic_Preservation/Publications/63rd_Street_Bathing_Pavilion.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jackson Park Beach House</a>. <a href="https://blockclubchicago.org/2023/05/03/heres-how-to-help-the-latest-wave-of-migrants-coming-to-chicago/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The great thing about helping refugees and immigrants is you can do something about that</a> even if you haven’t won the lottery.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We’re talking fairytale retellings today with Zoraida Córdova, the author of Kiss the Girl, a new retelling of The Little Mermaid. We talk about the responsibility of authors when they tackle retellings, about the relevance of fairytales in the world, about the history of fairytales, and about why they resonate so powerfully with us as authors and readers. </p><p>After Sarah’s Knockout (<a href="https://bit.ly/KnockoutWord" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">preorder it signed, with exclusive FM swag, from her local bookstore</a>), our next read along will be Laura Kinsale’s Flowers from the Storm. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3NWPHuA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/flowers-from-the-storm-laura-kinsale/1100252349" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/flowers-from-the-storm/id360606358" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/flowers-from-the-storm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780380761326" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local indie</a>.</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, you are welcome at our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p>Show Notes</p><p>Welcome back, <a href="https://zoraidacordova.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Zoraida Córdova</a>. She was on the podcast back in Season 3 <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/6/8/s0342-fantasy-romance-interstitial-with-zoraida-crdova" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">talking about fantasy romance</a>. Kiss the Girl is a Little Mermaid retelling, and the third book in the <a href="https://amzn.to/3DLIB7o" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Meant to Be series.</a> You can check out her other mermaid books, a YA series that starts with <a href="https://amzn.to/3KsLMVC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Viscous Deep</a>, or the forthcoming anthology <a href="https://amzn.to/3KzzHOm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mermaids Never Drown.</a></p><p>Are we billionaires from winning the <a href="https://apnews.com/article/mega-millions-jackpot-lottery-8397543de852fc4c716cc2ce940d9eac" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MegaMillions?</a> Probably not. But if we did, Jen is planning to renovate the <a href="https://www.chicago.gov/content/dam/city/depts/zlup/Historic_Preservation/Publications/63rd_Street_Bathing_Pavilion.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jackson Park Beach House</a>. <a href="https://blockclubchicago.org/2023/05/03/heres-how-to-help-the-latest-wave-of-migrants-coming-to-chicago/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The great thing about helping refugees and immigrants is you can do something about that</a> even if you haven’t won the lottery.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/8/7/s0547-fairy-tales-retellings-with-zoraida-cordova]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:64d18a6951eb1e7d1e8d648b</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/792cae0a-e705-4d43-96ac-4c94d22045d3/pink-read-along.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2023 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/bcdec43b-67d7-430a-84d3-a6e922f1ecd0/zoraida-final-normalized.mp3" length="72037147" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:09:04</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>51</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>51</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We’re talking fairytale retellings today with Zoraida Córdova, the author of Kiss the Girl, a new retelling of The Little Mermaid. We talk about the responsibility of authors when they tackle retellings, about the relevance of fairytales in the world, about the history of fairytales, and about why they resonate so powerfully with us as authors and readers.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-bcdec43b-67d7-430a-84d3-a6e922f1ecd0.json" type="application/json+chapters"/><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="video/youtube" title="S05.47: Fairy Tale Retellings with Zoraida Córdova"><podcast:source uri="https://youtu.be/S7PjeR2G5Zc"/></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>S05.46: Fast, Incendiary, Burns: Romance Novels that Start with a Bang!</title><itunes:title>S05.46: Fast, Incendiary, Burns: Romance Novels that Start with a Bang!</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It’s a million degrees and no one has time for slow burns right now, y’all. This week, we’re talking books that start with a bang — and we mean literally. We talk about how difficult it is to thread the needle on romance that starts with sex, about the tropes that lend themselves to this particular theme, about sex work, one night stands, about erotic romance vs. romance, and about how pulling this set up off takes masterful skill with character. There are so many great books for you in here. Enjoy!</p><p>After Sarah’s Knockout (<a href="https://bit.ly/KnockoutWord" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">preorder it signed, with exclusive FM swag, from her local bookstore</a>), our next read along will be Laura Kinsale’s Flowers from the Storm. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3NWPHuA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/flowers-from-the-storm-laura-kinsale/1100252349" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/flowers-from-the-storm/id360606358" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/flowers-from-the-storm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780380761326" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local indie</a>.</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, you are welcome at our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p>Show Notes</p><p>Jen using the phrase “fast, incendiary burn” to refer to books that start with a bang dates all the way back to <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/11/18/s0211-romance-recommendations-stump-jen-and-sarah" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">season 2</a>. The Twitter thread where <a href="https://twitter.com/_FunmilovesHEAS/status/1232134672093716481?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Funmi compared slow burns to crockpots</a> is here. If I could figure out how to save it (screenshots, I guess, sigh), I would.</p><p>We had <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/7/13/s0347-taboo-romance-interstitial-with-nikki-sloane" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nikki Sloane on to talk about taboo romance</a>, but we also like Jennifer Porter’s definition of erotic romance from <a href="https://twitter.com/JenniferRNN/status/1110982496399908864?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a 2019 twitter thread,</a> where she said, “I don't think the sexual relationship has to be the conflict. But sex/sexual interaction/etc has to be critical to the development of the relationship….I think their has to be some type of sexual journey for the main characters for a book to be erotic romance…Ultimately, if there is sex in a romance, it should be important to the couple's journey, but maybe in erotic romance, the main characters need to have a sexual or erotic journey of some sort.”</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3WzxuFG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Knockout</a> arrives on August 22! Join Sarah at her NYC launch party (a real party!) and meet new friends at a romance-specific hang on August 24th. <a href="https://bit.ly/knockoutlaunch" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tickets and details here</a>.</p><p>Take Sarah's Mastering the Art of Great Conflict the week of August 6th. <a href="https://www.sarahmaclean.net/mastering-the-art-of-great-conflict-now" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">More info here</a>.</p><p>Head to <a href="https://romancefictionconference.yale.edu/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Yale University</a> to take Sarah &amp; Adriana's writing romance class, and to hear Fated Mates &amp; The Black Romance Podcast talk about oral history and romance.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s a million degrees and no one has time for slow burns right now, y’all. This week, we’re talking books that start with a bang — and we mean literally. We talk about how difficult it is to thread the needle on romance that starts with sex, about the tropes that lend themselves to this particular theme, about sex work, one night stands, about erotic romance vs. romance, and about how pulling this set up off takes masterful skill with character. There are so many great books for you in here. Enjoy!</p><p>After Sarah’s Knockout (<a href="https://bit.ly/KnockoutWord" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">preorder it signed, with exclusive FM swag, from her local bookstore</a>), our next read along will be Laura Kinsale’s Flowers from the Storm. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3NWPHuA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/flowers-from-the-storm-laura-kinsale/1100252349" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/flowers-from-the-storm/id360606358" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/flowers-from-the-storm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780380761326" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local indie</a>.</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, you are welcome at our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p>Show Notes</p><p>Jen using the phrase “fast, incendiary burn” to refer to books that start with a bang dates all the way back to <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/11/18/s0211-romance-recommendations-stump-jen-and-sarah" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">season 2</a>. The Twitter thread where <a href="https://twitter.com/_FunmilovesHEAS/status/1232134672093716481?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Funmi compared slow burns to crockpots</a> is here. If I could figure out how to save it (screenshots, I guess, sigh), I would.</p><p>We had <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/7/13/s0347-taboo-romance-interstitial-with-nikki-sloane" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nikki Sloane on to talk about taboo romance</a>, but we also like Jennifer Porter’s definition of erotic romance from <a href="https://twitter.com/JenniferRNN/status/1110982496399908864?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a 2019 twitter thread,</a> where she said, “I don't think the sexual relationship has to be the conflict. But sex/sexual interaction/etc has to be critical to the development of the relationship….I think their has to be some type of sexual journey for the main characters for a book to be erotic romance…Ultimately, if there is sex in a romance, it should be important to the couple's journey, but maybe in erotic romance, the main characters need to have a sexual or erotic journey of some sort.”</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3WzxuFG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Knockout</a> arrives on August 22! Join Sarah at her NYC launch party (a real party!) and meet new friends at a romance-specific hang on August 24th. <a href="https://bit.ly/knockoutlaunch" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tickets and details here</a>.</p><p>Take Sarah's Mastering the Art of Great Conflict the week of August 6th. <a href="https://www.sarahmaclean.net/mastering-the-art-of-great-conflict-now" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">More info here</a>.</p><p>Head to <a href="https://romancefictionconference.yale.edu/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Yale University</a> to take Sarah &amp; Adriana's writing romance class, and to hear Fated Mates &amp; The Black Romance Podcast talk about oral history and romance.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/8/1/s0546-fast-incendiary-burns-romance-novels-that-start-with-a-bang]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:64c95d569f2fe434def0fc38</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/57b95aa0-574b-468b-97d0-f26aae9b86f3/pink-read-along.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2023 02:46:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/86c0f05d-721a-4768-9380-e9034bd017dd/fated-mates-starts-with-a-bang.mp3" length="89702244" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:25:55</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>50</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>50</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>It’s a million degrees and no one has time for slow burns right now, y’all. This week, we’re talking books that start with a bang — and we mean literally. We talk about how difficult it is to thread the needle on romance that starts with sex, about the tropes that lend themselves to this particular theme, about sex work, one night stands, about erotic romance vs. romance, and about how pulling this set up off takes masterful skill with character. There are so many great books for you in here. Enjoy!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-86c0f05d-721a-4768-9380-e9034bd017dd.json" type="application/json+chapters"/><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="video/youtube" title="S05.46: Fast, Incendiary, Burns: Romance Novels that Start with a Bang!"><podcast:source uri="https://youtu.be/i6iVcpH_-SQ"/></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>S05.45: Emotional Navy SEALs: Divorced Main Characters in Romance Novels</title><itunes:title>S05.45: Emotional Navy SEALs: Divorced Main Characters in Romance Novels</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">After literal years of requests for this one, we’re finally tackling the divorced main characters in romance! We talk about romance between grown ups, about bad exes and good ones, about marriages that were mistakes and ones that help characters learn. This one is full of contemporaries and historicals, and you definitely don’t want to miss it. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">After Sarah’s Knockout (<a href="https://bit.ly/KnockoutWord">preorder it signed, with exclusive FM swag, from her local bookstore</a>), our next read along, the first of Season Six, will be Laura Kinsale’s Flowers from the Storm. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3NWPHuA">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/flowers-from-the-storm-laura-kinsale/1100252349">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/flowers-from-the-storm/id360606358">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/flowers-from-the-storm">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780380761326">from your local indie</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you want more Fated Mates in your life, you are welcome at our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Show Notes</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Jen saw Beyonce for <a href="https://variety.com/2023/music/concert-reviews/beyonce-tour-us-opening-concert-philadelphia-review-1235669545/">the Renaissance Tour at Solder Field</a> this week for the Renaissance Tour, and also Barbie and Oppenheimer, although <a href="https://www.vulture.com/article/what-is-barbenheimer-day-double-feature.html">not on the same day</a>, so not <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/21/movies/barbenheimer-strike.html">the full Barbenheimer experience.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://time.com/5434949/divorce-rate-children-marriage-benefits/">Divorce is becoming less common</a> in America, but it might not be a good thing.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">No, <a href="https://www.classichollywoodcentral.com/classic-hollywood-myths/myth-elizabeth-taylors-eye-color-was-violet/">Elizabeth Taylor didn’t have violet eyes.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">A <a href="https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1KZHQnQ6u3y7hZb6-dYVDBdnRKaDcfLVa?usp=sharing">folder with PDFs</a> of this week's articles.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">After literal years of requests for this one, we’re finally tackling the divorced main characters in romance! We talk about romance between grown ups, about bad exes and good ones, about marriages that were mistakes and ones that help characters learn. This one is full of contemporaries and historicals, and you definitely don’t want to miss it. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">After Sarah’s Knockout (<a href="https://bit.ly/KnockoutWord">preorder it signed, with exclusive FM swag, from her local bookstore</a>), our next read along, the first of Season Six, will be Laura Kinsale’s Flowers from the Storm. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3NWPHuA">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/flowers-from-the-storm-laura-kinsale/1100252349">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/flowers-from-the-storm/id360606358">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/flowers-from-the-storm">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780380761326">from your local indie</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you want more Fated Mates in your life, you are welcome at our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Show Notes</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Jen saw Beyonce for <a href="https://variety.com/2023/music/concert-reviews/beyonce-tour-us-opening-concert-philadelphia-review-1235669545/">the Renaissance Tour at Solder Field</a> this week for the Renaissance Tour, and also Barbie and Oppenheimer, although <a href="https://www.vulture.com/article/what-is-barbenheimer-day-double-feature.html">not on the same day</a>, so not <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/21/movies/barbenheimer-strike.html">the full Barbenheimer experience.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://time.com/5434949/divorce-rate-children-marriage-benefits/">Divorce is becoming less common</a> in America, but it might not be a good thing.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">No, <a href="https://www.classichollywoodcentral.com/classic-hollywood-myths/myth-elizabeth-taylors-eye-color-was-violet/">Elizabeth Taylor didn’t have violet eyes.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">A <a href="https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1KZHQnQ6u3y7hZb6-dYVDBdnRKaDcfLVa?usp=sharing">folder with PDFs</a> of this week's articles.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/7/24/s0545-emotional-navy-seals-divorced-main-characters-in-romance-novels]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:64beb84a8cebbc69ae8ec46b</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/7cc132d2-6d75-469f-8b64-2c3b8bb75b7b/pink-read-along.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2023 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/88491b3a-a643-4ff5-81cf-43125a2c3f92/fated-mates-divorce.mp3" length="77812650" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:15:16</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>49</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>49</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>After literal years of requests for this one, we’re finally tackling the divorced main characters in romance! We talk about romance between grown ups, about bad exes and good ones, about marriages that were mistakes and ones that help characters learn. This one is full of contemporaries and historicals, and you definitely don’t want to miss it. </itunes:summary></item><item><title>S05.44: New Romance Novels For Summer 2023</title><itunes:title> S05.44: Romance New Releases Summer 2023</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Today, we’re talking about books we’re excited about this Summer! We’re toppling TBRs with books you can get now, books you can preorder, books that are terrific beach reads, books that gave us big feelings, and books that made us really very happy. Enjoy!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">For the readers in the group, preorder Sarah’s book, <a href="https://amzn.to/3WzxuFG">Knockout</a>, now. For the writers in the group, register for her conflict class, <a href="https://www.sarahmaclean.net/mastering-the-art-of-great-conflict-now">at her website</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our next read along, the first of Season Six, will be Laura Kinsale’s Flowers from the Storm. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3NWPHuA">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/flowers-from-the-storm-laura-kinsale/1100252349">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/flowers-from-the-storm/id360606358">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/flowers-from-the-storm">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780380761326">from your local indie</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you want more Fated Mates in your life, you are welcome at our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Today, we’re talking about books we’re excited about this Summer! We’re toppling TBRs with books you can get now, books you can preorder, books that are terrific beach reads, books that gave us big feelings, and books that made us really very happy. Enjoy!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">For the readers in the group, preorder Sarah’s book, <a href="https://amzn.to/3WzxuFG">Knockout</a>, now. For the writers in the group, register for her conflict class, <a href="https://www.sarahmaclean.net/mastering-the-art-of-great-conflict-now">at her website</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our next read along, the first of Season Six, will be Laura Kinsale’s Flowers from the Storm. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3NWPHuA">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/flowers-from-the-storm-laura-kinsale/1100252349">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/flowers-from-the-storm/id360606358">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/flowers-from-the-storm">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780380761326">from your local indie</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you want more Fated Mates in your life, you are welcome at our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/7/17/s0544-romance-new-releases-summer-2023]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:64b572f499324a3473d52755</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/66a58242-8963-4f8b-a417-b932db434da4/pink-read-along.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2023 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/634f87b2-8011-4066-a566-e0fb8599a7de/fated-mates-summer-romance-2023.mp3" length="81766747" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:15:58</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>48</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>48</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Today, we’re talking about books we’re excited about this Summer! We’re toppling TBRs with books you can get now, books you can preorder, books that are terrific beach reads, books that gave us big feelings, and books that made us really very happy. Enjoy!</itunes:summary></item><item><title>S05.43: Twilight by Stephenie Meyer with Christina and Lauren</title><itunes:title>Twilight by Stephenie Meyer with Christina and Lauren</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We go back to the OG DNA of the contemporary boom of the early 2010s today, with a read along of Stephenie Meyer’s Twilight, with fabulous fan fic writers turned brilliant romance novelists, Christina Lauren. Christina and Lauren talk about the way the books inspired them to write, helped them find a community, and their fated mates (each other). Jen talks about reading Twilight as a middle school teacher, and Sarah talks about never reading it at all…until now. </p><p>Within, we’ll talk about characters feeling big feelings, about how Twilight inspired romance novelists across the board, about third acts that go hard, and about how Alice is unquestionably the best character in the whole thing. </p><p>Get Christina and Lauren’s most recent book, <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781982173432" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The True Love Experiment</a>, wherever books are sold, and this week <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781982173432" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from Bookshop.org</a>, where you get free shipping and help your local independent bookstore.  </p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, you are welcome at our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome back Christina and Lauren! After listening to them talk about Twilight, don’t forget to pick up their latest book, The True Love Experiment. We’ve had Christina and Lauren on a bunch of times to talk about <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/10/5/s0309-fanfictions-influence-on-romance-with-christina-lauren" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FanFic</a>, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/5/16/s0339-the-soulmate-equation-trope-death-match-with-christina-lauren" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Soulmate Equation</a>, and the <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/4/7/s0231-forced-proximity-interstitial-with-christina-lauren" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">forced proximity trope.</a></li><li>Not sure of the exact article that Lo read about <a href="https://healthland.time.com/2011/01/11/what-your-brain-looks-like-after-20-years-of-marriage/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">brain scans and married couples</a>, but this seems like a good overview.</li><li>And a selection of some of our favorite articles about Twilight:</li><li>From The Atlantic: <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2012/11/at-its-core-the-twilight-saga-is-a-story-about/265328/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">At Its Core, the ‘Twilight’ Saga Is a Story About</a></li><li>From Entertainment Weekly: <a href="https://ew.com/article/2012/11/16/twilight-effect/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Twilight Effect</a></li><li>From The New York Times: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/02/movies/moviesspecial/02raff.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love and Pain and the Teenage Vampire Thing</a></li><li>From Slate: <a href="https://slate.com/culture/2020/09/twilight-murmur-analysis-stephenie-meyer-midnight-sun.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">All 349 “Murmurs” in the Twilight Saga, Charted and Ranked</a></li><li>From Salon: <a href="https://www.salon.com/2010/07/02/the_real_twilight_dildo_inventor/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Meet the Twilight Dildo Inventor</a></li><li>From Vogue: <a href="https://www.vogue.com/article/56-thoughts-i-had-while-rewatching-twilight" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">56 Thoughts I had While Rewatching Twilight</a></li><li>From Vulture: <a href="https://www.vulture.com/2022/12/twilight-character-backstories-ranked-by-absurdity.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Most Horrific Twilight Character Backstories, Ranked by Absurdity</a> and a video about <a href="https://www.vulture.com/2018/10/sexy-vampires-the-rise-of-the-vampire-romance-craze.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Rise and Fall of the Vampire Romance Craze</a> in Film and TV.</li><li>A Google Folder with PDFs of <a href="https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1avuSZ1UhmL9St52RMM5dhwlmsCNT-n8-?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this week's articles.</a></li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/7/11/s0543-twilight-by-stephenie-meyer-with-christina-and-lauren </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We go back to the OG DNA of the contemporary boom of the early 2010s today, with a read along of Stephenie Meyer’s Twilight, with fabulous fan fic writers turned brilliant romance novelists, Christina Lauren. Christina and Lauren talk about the way the books inspired them to write, helped them find a community, and their fated mates (each other). Jen talks about reading Twilight as a middle school teacher, and Sarah talks about never reading it at all…until now. </p><p>Within, we’ll talk about characters feeling big feelings, about how Twilight inspired romance novelists across the board, about third acts that go hard, and about how Alice is unquestionably the best character in the whole thing. </p><p>Get Christina and Lauren’s most recent book, <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781982173432" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The True Love Experiment</a>, wherever books are sold, and this week <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781982173432" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from Bookshop.org</a>, where you get free shipping and help your local independent bookstore.  </p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, you are welcome at our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome back Christina and Lauren! After listening to them talk about Twilight, don’t forget to pick up their latest book, The True Love Experiment. We’ve had Christina and Lauren on a bunch of times to talk about <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/10/5/s0309-fanfictions-influence-on-romance-with-christina-lauren" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FanFic</a>, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/5/16/s0339-the-soulmate-equation-trope-death-match-with-christina-lauren" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Soulmate Equation</a>, and the <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/4/7/s0231-forced-proximity-interstitial-with-christina-lauren" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">forced proximity trope.</a></li><li>Not sure of the exact article that Lo read about <a href="https://healthland.time.com/2011/01/11/what-your-brain-looks-like-after-20-years-of-marriage/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">brain scans and married couples</a>, but this seems like a good overview.</li><li>And a selection of some of our favorite articles about Twilight:</li><li>From The Atlantic: <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2012/11/at-its-core-the-twilight-saga-is-a-story-about/265328/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">At Its Core, the ‘Twilight’ Saga Is a Story About</a></li><li>From Entertainment Weekly: <a href="https://ew.com/article/2012/11/16/twilight-effect/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Twilight Effect</a></li><li>From The New York Times: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/02/movies/moviesspecial/02raff.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love and Pain and the Teenage Vampire Thing</a></li><li>From Slate: <a href="https://slate.com/culture/2020/09/twilight-murmur-analysis-stephenie-meyer-midnight-sun.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">All 349 “Murmurs” in the Twilight Saga, Charted and Ranked</a></li><li>From Salon: <a href="https://www.salon.com/2010/07/02/the_real_twilight_dildo_inventor/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Meet the Twilight Dildo Inventor</a></li><li>From Vogue: <a href="https://www.vogue.com/article/56-thoughts-i-had-while-rewatching-twilight" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">56 Thoughts I had While Rewatching Twilight</a></li><li>From Vulture: <a href="https://www.vulture.com/2022/12/twilight-character-backstories-ranked-by-absurdity.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Most Horrific Twilight Character Backstories, Ranked by Absurdity</a> and a video about <a href="https://www.vulture.com/2018/10/sexy-vampires-the-rise-of-the-vampire-romance-craze.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Rise and Fall of the Vampire Romance Craze</a> in Film and TV.</li><li>A Google Folder with PDFs of <a href="https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1avuSZ1UhmL9St52RMM5dhwlmsCNT-n8-?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this week's articles.</a></li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/7/11/s0543-twilight-by-stephenie-meyer-with-christina-and-lauren </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/7/11/s0543-twilight-by-stephenie-meyer-with-christina-and-lauren]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:64add3d6ac309b74188c7aad</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2023 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/1c829295-91ef-4c00-85e1-a12bca77b398/fated-mates-twilight.mp3" length="90777128" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:33:24</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>47</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>47</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We go back to the OG DNA of the contemporary boom of the early 2010s today, with a read along of Stephenie Meyer’s Twilight, with fabulous fan fic writers turned brilliant romance novelists, Christina Lauren. Christina and Lauren talk about the way the books inspired them to write, helped them find a community, and their fated mates (each other). Jen talks about reading Twilight as a middle school teacher, and Sarah talks about never reading it at all…until now. 

Within, we’ll talk about characters feeling big feelings, about how Twilight inspired romance novelists across the board, about third acts that go hard, and about how Alice is unquestionably the best character in the whole thing.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-1c829295-91ef-4c00-85e1-a12bca77b398.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S05.42: The Bride by Julie Garwood: A Primordial RomCom</title><itunes:title>The Bride by Julie Garwood: A Primordial RomCom</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We were devastated to learn of the passing of Julie Garwood, honest to God romance doyenne, last month. Garwood installed many of our buttons, and the buttons of so many romance readers who came up reading “The Four J’s,” and, more importantly, paved the way for historicals with humor. She was, without question, a trailblazer. While we were unable to interview her for our trailblazer series, we couldn’t let her passing go without an episode, so please enjoy our read along of The Bride, which is a nearly perfect book even now, decades after she wrote it. </p><p>While our thoughts are with with Julie Garwood’s family, her friends, and the legions of readers she delighted over her long and legendary career, our endless gratitude is with Julie Garwood herself—for the laughter, the sighs, and the absolute bangers that were her books.</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, you are welcome at our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>We were devastated to learn about the death of romance great Julie Garwood. You can read her obituaries in <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/21/books/julie-garwood-dead.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the New York Times</a> and <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/obituaries/2023/06/16/julie-garwood-books-romance-dies/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Washington Post</a>. In 2022, <a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/podcast/520-telling-stories-with-julie-garwood/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Julie Garwood was a guest on the Smart Bitches Trashy Books podcast.</a></li><li>Are we at <a href="https://defector.com/the-last-page-of-the-internet" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the end of the usable internet?</a></li><li>A google folder with <a href="https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/190EvNfoJqywe2xcK4JXgpz99rSROl8qN?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">PDFs of this week's articles.</a></li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/7/4/s0542-remembering-julie-garwood </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We were devastated to learn of the passing of Julie Garwood, honest to God romance doyenne, last month. Garwood installed many of our buttons, and the buttons of so many romance readers who came up reading “The Four J’s,” and, more importantly, paved the way for historicals with humor. She was, without question, a trailblazer. While we were unable to interview her for our trailblazer series, we couldn’t let her passing go without an episode, so please enjoy our read along of The Bride, which is a nearly perfect book even now, decades after she wrote it. </p><p>While our thoughts are with with Julie Garwood’s family, her friends, and the legions of readers she delighted over her long and legendary career, our endless gratitude is with Julie Garwood herself—for the laughter, the sighs, and the absolute bangers that were her books.</p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, you are welcome at our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>We were devastated to learn about the death of romance great Julie Garwood. You can read her obituaries in <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/21/books/julie-garwood-dead.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the New York Times</a> and <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/obituaries/2023/06/16/julie-garwood-books-romance-dies/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Washington Post</a>. In 2022, <a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/podcast/520-telling-stories-with-julie-garwood/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Julie Garwood was a guest on the Smart Bitches Trashy Books podcast.</a></li><li>Are we at <a href="https://defector.com/the-last-page-of-the-internet" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the end of the usable internet?</a></li><li>A google folder with <a href="https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/190EvNfoJqywe2xcK4JXgpz99rSROl8qN?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">PDFs of this week's articles.</a></li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/7/4/s0542-remembering-julie-garwood </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/7/4/s0542-remembering-julie-garwood]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:64a412e73dc8153326401574</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2023 16:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/15742ce6-f42d-4ede-b4db-9df70968da10/fated-mates-julie-garwood-reva.mp3" length="86931390" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:25:04</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>46</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>46</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We were devastated to learn of the passing of Julie Garwood, honest to God romance doyenne, last month. Garwood installed many of our buttons, and the buttons of so many romance readers who came up reading “The Four J’s,” and, more importantly, paved the way for historicals with humor. She was, without question, a trailblazer. While we were unable to interview her for our trailblazer series, we couldn’t let her passing go without an episode, so please enjoy our read along of The Bride, which is a nearly perfect book even now, decades after she wrote it. 

While our thoughts are with with Julie Garwood’s family, her friends, and the legions of readers she delighted over her long and legendary career, our endless gratitude is with Julie Garwood herself—for the laughter, the sighs, and the absolute bangers that were her books.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-15742ce6-f42d-4ede-b4db-9df70968da10.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S05.41 Worldbuilding in Romance Novels</title><itunes:title>S05.41 Worldbuilding in Romance Novels</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We’re talking about worldbuilding this week, and you’re getting a glimpse into Jen and Sarah’s everyday non-podcasting romance chatter. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">This one is for everyone — we talk about paranormal and historical romance, about what we think fantasy means when it comes to romance, and (most importantly) about how contemporary romance just might require the most worldbuilding of all of it? </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Separately, Eric points out the irony of us referring to “two people in a phone booth” in an episode where we talk about how kids today don’t know about cassette tapes.  </p><p class="" data-rte-preserve-empty="true" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you want more Fated Mates in your life, you are welcome at our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.vox.com/2023/6/9/23755679/indictment-unsealed-trump-charges-explained-classified-documents">Donald Trump was indicted</a> and was storing his documents, including some with nuclear secrets, in his bathroom at Mar-a-Lago.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://twitter.com/studentactivism/status/1666123103200587791?s=20">Thread by Angus Johnson about ChatGPT and writin</a>g, which was in response to <a href="https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/digital/content-and-e-books/article/92471-ai-is-about-to-turn-book-publishing-upside-down.html">this article at PW about how AI will soon replace editors.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Sarah’s editor Carrie Feron says, “Your opening has to tell a story and leave the reader asking a question.”</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">A classic reaction video from <a href="https://youtu.be/0l3-iufiywU">Tim and Fred Williams to In the Air Tonight</a>, <a href="https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-news/watch-phil-collins-the-roots-energize-in-the-air-tonight-on-fallon-103993/">Questlove was nervous about In the Air Tonight</a>, and a terrific episode of <a href="https://slate.com/culture/2019/05/genesis-phil-collins-peter-gabriel-charts.html">Hit Parade about how Phil Collins changed the sound of drumming.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.npr.org/2023/05/19/1175677126/kennedy-ryan-romance-novelist-profile">NPR did a terrific piece about Kennedy Ryan</a> and why she’s so big right now, and we were briefly interviewed talking about her legacy.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/15xB7VDr_cLBLh1SP8CSxvLxS7D6A-5V8?usp=sharing">Jen tries to make as many of those links as possible into PDFs!</a> Thinking of you in the future times, wondering wtf we were talking about.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We’re talking about worldbuilding this week, and you’re getting a glimpse into Jen and Sarah’s everyday non-podcasting romance chatter. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">This one is for everyone — we talk about paranormal and historical romance, about what we think fantasy means when it comes to romance, and (most importantly) about how contemporary romance just might require the most worldbuilding of all of it? </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Separately, Eric points out the irony of us referring to “two people in a phone booth” in an episode where we talk about how kids today don’t know about cassette tapes.  </p><p class="" data-rte-preserve-empty="true" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you want more Fated Mates in your life, you are welcome at our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.vox.com/2023/6/9/23755679/indictment-unsealed-trump-charges-explained-classified-documents">Donald Trump was indicted</a> and was storing his documents, including some with nuclear secrets, in his bathroom at Mar-a-Lago.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://twitter.com/studentactivism/status/1666123103200587791?s=20">Thread by Angus Johnson about ChatGPT and writin</a>g, which was in response to <a href="https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/digital/content-and-e-books/article/92471-ai-is-about-to-turn-book-publishing-upside-down.html">this article at PW about how AI will soon replace editors.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Sarah’s editor Carrie Feron says, “Your opening has to tell a story and leave the reader asking a question.”</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">A classic reaction video from <a href="https://youtu.be/0l3-iufiywU">Tim and Fred Williams to In the Air Tonight</a>, <a href="https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-news/watch-phil-collins-the-roots-energize-in-the-air-tonight-on-fallon-103993/">Questlove was nervous about In the Air Tonight</a>, and a terrific episode of <a href="https://slate.com/culture/2019/05/genesis-phil-collins-peter-gabriel-charts.html">Hit Parade about how Phil Collins changed the sound of drumming.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.npr.org/2023/05/19/1175677126/kennedy-ryan-romance-novelist-profile">NPR did a terrific piece about Kennedy Ryan</a> and why she’s so big right now, and we were briefly interviewed talking about her legacy.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/15xB7VDr_cLBLh1SP8CSxvLxS7D6A-5V8?usp=sharing">Jen tries to make as many of those links as possible into PDFs!</a> Thinking of you in the future times, wondering wtf we were talking about.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/6/27/s0541-worldbuilding-in-romance-novels]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:649aee07a12837726b782d99</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/33736187-196f-46a7-9ed4-449874feb301/pink-read-along.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2023 08:59:57 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/790ffc3e-a04a-4ffb-be22-cd1de6711bf5/fated-mates-worldbuilding.mp3" length="85642668" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:22:32</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>45</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>45</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We’re talking about worldbuilding this week, and you’re getting a glimpse into Jen and Sarah’s everyday non-podcasting romance chatter. 

This one is for everyone — we talk about paranormal and historical romance, about what we think fantasy means when it comes to romance, and (most importantly) about how contemporary romance just might require the most worldbuilding of all of it? 

Separately, Eric points out the irony of us referring to “two people in a phone booth” in an episode where we talk about how kids today don’t know about cassette tapes.  </itunes:summary></item><item><title>S05.40: STEM Heroines in Romance Novels</title><itunes:title>S05.40: STEM Heroines in Romance Novels</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It’s heroines in science week here at Fated Mates! STEM heroines are having a resurgence in romance, in no small part because of the rise of “STEMinist romcoms” (citation: Ali Hazelwood and Elena Armas), but we’re talking about everything from astronauts and archeologists to explosives experts and healers and we’ve got a list of books we love throughout romance history. That, and we already talked about The Love Hypothesis earlier this season, so we’re filling your TBR with books you might not have found already. You’ll find historicals, contemporaries, and paranormals on this episode — pick your pleasure! </p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, you are welcome at our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><ul><li>The <a href="https://theconversation.com/canada-wildfires-an-area-larger-than-the-netherlands-has-been-burned-so-far-this-year-heres-what-is-causing-them-207577" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Canadian wildfires have been exceptionally bad this year</a>, and here’s why.</li><li>Climate change continues to impact the way we live now, including announcements from State Farm and other insurance companies that they <a href="https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-06-18/state-farm-allstate-wildfire-flood-insurance-california-climate-change-housing-rebuild" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">will not be writing new homeowner’s insurance policies in CA</a>. This <a href="https://theconversation.com/why-insurance-companies-are-pulling-out-of-california-and-florida-and-how-to-fix-some-of-the-underlying-problems-207172" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">was already happening in Florida</a>.</li><li>What is a <a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/portmanteau-vs-blend" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">portmanteau</a>?</li><li>What is a <a href="https://daily.jstor.org/the-bluestockings/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bluestocking</a>?</li><li>A link to our episode recommending <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/4/what-to-read-if-you-liked-the-love-hypothesis" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">read-alikes for The Love Hypothesis</a>, including some other recommendations for STEM heroines.</li><li>On Variety’s <a href="https://youtu.be/TZ30Hl1UOaw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Actors on Acting series</a>, Ellen Pompeo talked about how <a href="https://jezebel.com/ellen-pompeo-hated-greys-anatomys-iconic-pick-me-choos-1850512071" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">humiliating she thought it was to give the “pick me” speech.</a></li><li><a href="https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1fuqgNTpgJiywJeONi2xK410a9OZpwoGl?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A link to a folder with PDFs </a>of links in this week's show notes.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/6/19/s0540-stem-heroines-in-romance-novels </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s heroines in science week here at Fated Mates! STEM heroines are having a resurgence in romance, in no small part because of the rise of “STEMinist romcoms” (citation: Ali Hazelwood and Elena Armas), but we’re talking about everything from astronauts and archeologists to explosives experts and healers and we’ve got a list of books we love throughout romance history. That, and we already talked about The Love Hypothesis earlier this season, so we’re filling your TBR with books you might not have found already. You’ll find historicals, contemporaries, and paranormals on this episode — pick your pleasure! </p><p>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, you are welcome at our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><ul><li>The <a href="https://theconversation.com/canada-wildfires-an-area-larger-than-the-netherlands-has-been-burned-so-far-this-year-heres-what-is-causing-them-207577" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Canadian wildfires have been exceptionally bad this year</a>, and here’s why.</li><li>Climate change continues to impact the way we live now, including announcements from State Farm and other insurance companies that they <a href="https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-06-18/state-farm-allstate-wildfire-flood-insurance-california-climate-change-housing-rebuild" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">will not be writing new homeowner’s insurance policies in CA</a>. This <a href="https://theconversation.com/why-insurance-companies-are-pulling-out-of-california-and-florida-and-how-to-fix-some-of-the-underlying-problems-207172" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">was already happening in Florida</a>.</li><li>What is a <a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/portmanteau-vs-blend" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">portmanteau</a>?</li><li>What is a <a href="https://daily.jstor.org/the-bluestockings/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bluestocking</a>?</li><li>A link to our episode recommending <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/4/what-to-read-if-you-liked-the-love-hypothesis" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">read-alikes for The Love Hypothesis</a>, including some other recommendations for STEM heroines.</li><li>On Variety’s <a href="https://youtu.be/TZ30Hl1UOaw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Actors on Acting series</a>, Ellen Pompeo talked about how <a href="https://jezebel.com/ellen-pompeo-hated-greys-anatomys-iconic-pick-me-choos-1850512071" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">humiliating she thought it was to give the “pick me” speech.</a></li><li><a href="https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1fuqgNTpgJiywJeONi2xK410a9OZpwoGl?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A link to a folder with PDFs </a>of links in this week's show notes.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/6/19/s0540-stem-heroines-in-romance-novels </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/6/19/s0540-stem-heroines-in-romance-novels]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:64905c9dab6f7a2e98cb1e4e</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2023 02:22:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/f0fd178c-8ead-45fd-ae8b-a98028b7eca1/fated-mates-stem-heroines-reva.mp3" length="68775899" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:05:44</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>44</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>44</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>It’s heroines in science week here at Fated Mates! STEM heroines are having a resurgence in romance, in no small part because of the rise of “STEMinist romcoms” (citation: Ali Hazelwood and Elena Armas), but we’re talking about everything from astronauts and archeologists to explosives experts and healers and we’ve got a list of books we love throughout romance history. That, and we already talked about The Love Hypothesis earlier this season, so we’re filling your TBR with books you might not have found already. You’ll find historicals, contemporaries, and paranormals on this episode — pick your pleasure!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-f0fd178c-8ead-45fd-ae8b-a98028b7eca1.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S05.39: Trailblazer Mary Balogh</title><itunes:title>S05.39: Trailblazer Mary Balogh</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong><em><br>The Trailblazers conversations continue this week with historical romance juggernaut Mary Balogh, whose decades-long career has shaped the Regency romance in both category and single title. We talk about historical accuracy, about research, about love, about staying true to your voice and your purpose, and about who Mary Balogh thinks is writing at the top of the game (spoiler: we agree). </em></strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong><em>We are so grateful to Mary Balogh for making time for us, and for her beautiful books.</em></strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong><em>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, you are welcome at our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. </em></strong><a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates"><strong><em>Learn more at patreon.com</em></strong></a><strong><em>. </em></strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong><em>Show Notes</em></strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong><em>Welcome trailblazer author </em></strong><a href="https://marybalogh.com/"><strong><em>Mary Balogh</em></strong></a><strong><em>. She has written over 80 bestsellers and 37 of her books have been New York Times Bestsellers. Her forthcoming book, Remember Me, will be released next week on June 20, 2023. Preorder now!</em></strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong><em>Authors Mentioned </em></strong><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/1/9/0517-trailblazer-catherine-coulter"><strong><em>Catherine Coulter</em></strong></a><strong><em>, </em></strong><a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/author/barbara-hazard~3382.htm"><strong><em>Barbara Hazard</em></strong></a><strong><em>, </em></strong><a href="https://www.edithlayton.com/"><strong><em>Edith Layton</em></strong></a><strong><em>, </em></strong><a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/author/joan-wolf~7967.htm"><strong><em>Joan Wolf</em></strong></a><strong><em>, </em></strong><a href="https://maryjoputney.com/"><strong><em>Mary Jo Putney</em></strong></a><strong><em>, </em></strong><a href="https://joanjohnston.com/"><strong><em>Joan Johnson</em></strong></a><strong><em>, </em></strong><a href="https://www.jobev.com/"><strong><em>Jo Beverley</em></strong></a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong><em>Publishing Professionals Hilary Ross at Harlequin and Claire Zion at Berkley.</em></strong></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong><em><br>The Trailblazers conversations continue this week with historical romance juggernaut Mary Balogh, whose decades-long career has shaped the Regency romance in both category and single title. We talk about historical accuracy, about research, about love, about staying true to your voice and your purpose, and about who Mary Balogh thinks is writing at the top of the game (spoiler: we agree). </em></strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong><em>We are so grateful to Mary Balogh for making time for us, and for her beautiful books.</em></strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong><em>If you want more Fated Mates in your life, you are welcome at our Patreon, which comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. </em></strong><a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates"><strong><em>Learn more at patreon.com</em></strong></a><strong><em>. </em></strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong><em>Show Notes</em></strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong><em>Welcome trailblazer author </em></strong><a href="https://marybalogh.com/"><strong><em>Mary Balogh</em></strong></a><strong><em>. She has written over 80 bestsellers and 37 of her books have been New York Times Bestsellers. Her forthcoming book, Remember Me, will be released next week on June 20, 2023. Preorder now!</em></strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong><em>Authors Mentioned </em></strong><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/1/9/0517-trailblazer-catherine-coulter"><strong><em>Catherine Coulter</em></strong></a><strong><em>, </em></strong><a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/author/barbara-hazard~3382.htm"><strong><em>Barbara Hazard</em></strong></a><strong><em>, </em></strong><a href="https://www.edithlayton.com/"><strong><em>Edith Layton</em></strong></a><strong><em>, </em></strong><a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/author/joan-wolf~7967.htm"><strong><em>Joan Wolf</em></strong></a><strong><em>, </em></strong><a href="https://maryjoputney.com/"><strong><em>Mary Jo Putney</em></strong></a><strong><em>, </em></strong><a href="https://joanjohnston.com/"><strong><em>Joan Johnson</em></strong></a><strong><em>, </em></strong><a href="https://www.jobev.com/"><strong><em>Jo Beverley</em></strong></a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong><em>Publishing Professionals Hilary Ross at Harlequin and Claire Zion at Berkley.</em></strong></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/6/13/s0539-trailblazer-mary-balogh]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:648869b2c2f9044b10b0a84b</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/cd24dd21-096f-4016-abb6-5a0ba2482f03/red-trailblazers.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2023 02:57:25 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/52f531d3-01a8-4b01-9baf-a755d058a6a4/fated-mates-mary-balogh-trailblazer.mp3" length="74228012" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:12:38</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>43</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>43</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>The Trailblazers conversations continue this week with historical romance juggernaut Mary Balogh, whose decades-long career has shaped the Regency romance in both category and single title. We talk about historical accuracy, about research, about love, about staying true to your voice and your purpose, and about who Mary Balogh thinks is writing at the top of the game (spoiler: we agree). 

We are so grateful to Mary Balogh for making time for us, and for her beautiful books.</itunes:summary></item><item><title>S05.38: Prologues &amp; Epilogues in Romance</title><itunes:title>S05.38: Prologues &amp; Epilogues in Romance Novels</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><br>It’s hard to believe it’s taken us this long to do a prologue and epilogue episode! We talk about beginnings and endings and why they exist and why writers should ignore every piece of broad strokes nonsense advice people want to throw at them. Jen says “Prologues are plot and epilogues are character,” and blows Sarah’s mind with her genius (jk, Sarah already knew she was a genius). And yes, we talk about babies. Fair warning! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">This interstitial idea came from the Fated Mates Discord, which all of our patrons have access to. Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">You know, <a href="https://www.sparknotes.com/lit/animalfarm/">Animal Farm</a> is a good book and <a href="https://shakespearenews.tumblr.com/post/152742107754/the-west-wing-season-2-episode-15-ellie">King Lear</a> is a good play.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">There is a very cute <a href="https://blockclubchicago.org/2023/05/23/meet-the-adorable-fox-family-living-in-millennium-park/">family of foxes</a> living in Chicago’s Millennium Park</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Apparently this <a href="https://www.houzz.com/discussions/1627436/why-is-my-dog-eating-rosetone">dogs and rosetone</a> thing is a known issue.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Here is an example of <a href="https://hotoffthepresses.blog/2022/02/01/prologues-why-they-are-bad-and-you-are-bad-for-liking-them/">the hardline “Prologues are Bad”</a> stance. || ed note: I’m not mad about it, since I have some known hardline stances myself. Ahem. ||</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our list of things good romance epilogues do: provide needed backstory, historical information, an inciting incident in the past, an unusual set-up, and showcasing the relationship between the primary characters.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our list of things romance epilogues do: fan service, bringing the whole gang back together in a series,providing a glimpse into the other character’s POV, The HEA fulfilled, the babylogue, and surprise motherfuckers!</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><br>It’s hard to believe it’s taken us this long to do a prologue and epilogue episode! We talk about beginnings and endings and why they exist and why writers should ignore every piece of broad strokes nonsense advice people want to throw at them. Jen says “Prologues are plot and epilogues are character,” and blows Sarah’s mind with her genius (jk, Sarah already knew she was a genius). And yes, we talk about babies. Fair warning! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">This interstitial idea came from the Fated Mates Discord, which all of our patrons have access to. Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">You know, <a href="https://www.sparknotes.com/lit/animalfarm/">Animal Farm</a> is a good book and <a href="https://shakespearenews.tumblr.com/post/152742107754/the-west-wing-season-2-episode-15-ellie">King Lear</a> is a good play.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">There is a very cute <a href="https://blockclubchicago.org/2023/05/23/meet-the-adorable-fox-family-living-in-millennium-park/">family of foxes</a> living in Chicago’s Millennium Park</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Apparently this <a href="https://www.houzz.com/discussions/1627436/why-is-my-dog-eating-rosetone">dogs and rosetone</a> thing is a known issue.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Here is an example of <a href="https://hotoffthepresses.blog/2022/02/01/prologues-why-they-are-bad-and-you-are-bad-for-liking-them/">the hardline “Prologues are Bad”</a> stance. || ed note: I’m not mad about it, since I have some known hardline stances myself. Ahem. ||</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our list of things good romance epilogues do: provide needed backstory, historical information, an inciting incident in the past, an unusual set-up, and showcasing the relationship between the primary characters.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our list of things romance epilogues do: fan service, bringing the whole gang back together in a series,providing a glimpse into the other character’s POV, The HEA fulfilled, the babylogue, and surprise motherfuckers!</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/6/3/s0538-prologues-amp-epilogues-in-romance-novels]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:647be70f3d5632239f7627dc</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/08f270e0-f4c0-4bc5-a6b7-dc1a9288143c/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2023 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/713c69f5-1cab-425b-9df3-aae1601505f1/fated-mates-prologues-and-epilogues-reva.mp3" length="98279387" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:32:36</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>42</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>42</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>It’s hard to believe it’s taken us this long to do a prologue and epilogue episode! We talk about beginnings and endings and why they exist and why writers should ignore every piece of broad strokes nonsense advice people want to throw at them. Jen says “Prologues are plot and epilogues are character,” and blows Sarah’s mind with her genius (jk, Sarah already knew she was a genius). And yes, we talk about babies. Fair warning! 

This interstitial idea came from the Fated Mates Discord, which all of our patrons have access to. Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. Learn more at patreon.com.</itunes:summary></item><item><title>S05.37: Fated Mates Live </title><itunes:title>S05.37: Fated Mates Live</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong><em>In March, we had the absolute best time with some of our favorite people at Fated Mates LIVE in Brooklyn! Here, for your enjoyment, is the recording of the wacky, wild night, which we spent with 250 Magnificent Firebirds, including: Tessa Bailey, Andie Christopher, Adriana Herrera and Joanna Shupe, who took the opportunity to announce that evening that she also writes mafia romance as Mila Finelli (*GASP!*)! </em></strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong><em>We cannot stress this enough: Headphones in!</em></strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong><em>We were also joined by Amanda Litman, the co-founder and co-executive director of Run for Something, and by Erin Leafe, the host of our sister podcast, Learning the Tropes! Special shout out to Producer Pat from Learning the Tropes, who helped Eric get the whole event recorded beautifully. You can read more about the whole event </em></strong><a href="https://www.bkmag.com/2023/03/30/orc-porn-santa-fetishes-roy-kent-scenes-from-a-romance-podcast-taping/"><strong><em>at Brooklyn Magazine</em></strong></a><strong><em>!</em></strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong><em>We’re approximating the experience of Fated Mates Live every day over on the Fated Mates Discord, which you can access by becoming a Patron of the podcast! Find out more at: </em></strong><a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon"><strong><em>fatedmates.net/patreon</em></strong></a><strong><em>. </em></strong></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong><em>In March, we had the absolute best time with some of our favorite people at Fated Mates LIVE in Brooklyn! Here, for your enjoyment, is the recording of the wacky, wild night, which we spent with 250 Magnificent Firebirds, including: Tessa Bailey, Andie Christopher, Adriana Herrera and Joanna Shupe, who took the opportunity to announce that evening that she also writes mafia romance as Mila Finelli (*GASP!*)! </em></strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong><em>We cannot stress this enough: Headphones in!</em></strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong><em>We were also joined by Amanda Litman, the co-founder and co-executive director of Run for Something, and by Erin Leafe, the host of our sister podcast, Learning the Tropes! Special shout out to Producer Pat from Learning the Tropes, who helped Eric get the whole event recorded beautifully. You can read more about the whole event </em></strong><a href="https://www.bkmag.com/2023/03/30/orc-porn-santa-fetishes-roy-kent-scenes-from-a-romance-podcast-taping/"><strong><em>at Brooklyn Magazine</em></strong></a><strong><em>!</em></strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong><em>We’re approximating the experience of Fated Mates Live every day over on the Fated Mates Discord, which you can access by becoming a Patron of the podcast! Find out more at: </em></strong><a href="https://fatedmates.net/patreon"><strong><em>fatedmates.net/patreon</em></strong></a><strong><em>. </em></strong></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/5/30/s0537-fated-mates-live]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:64763cf1fefe045b2b7a7876</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/317b34c6-e4e7-4de4-bde7-7c7908f14818/gold-live.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2023 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/53f64449-1162-4920-a7b3-a61637a65bc5/fated-mates-live-2.mp3" length="87952856" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:31:07</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>41</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>41</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>In March, we had the absolute best time with some of our favorite people at Fated Mates LIVE in Brooklyn! Here, for your enjoyment, is the recording of the wacky, wild night, which we spent with 250 Magnificent Firebirds, including: Tessa Bailey, Andie Christopher, Adriana Herrera and Joanna Shupe, who took the opportunity to announce that evening that she also writes mafia romance as Mila Finelli (*GASP!*)! 

We cannot stress this enough: Headphones in!

We were also joined by Amanda Litman, the co-founder and co-executive director of Run for Something, and by Erin Leafe, the host of our sister podcast, Learning the Tropes! Special shout out to Producer Pat from Learning the Tropes, who helped Eric get the whole event recorded beautifully. You can read more about the whole event at Brooklyn Magazine!</itunes:summary></item><item><title>S05.36: The Best Kisses in Romance</title><itunes:title>The Best Kisses in Romance</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We’re talking kissing today! So simple and so powerful, there’s no doubt that that first kiss in romance is always an important one. This episode was inspired by our recent readalong of Her Best Worst Mistake, but we talk about some other great books (most of which we’ve talked about before) with truly excellent kisses. Enjoy…and tell us about your favorite kisses in books, movies, tv shows…wherever you get your superior smooching. </p><p>We have a Patreon now, and it comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p>Kissing is the best, and we are obsessed with the first kisses from the following movies and TV shows: <a href="https://youtube.com/shorts/bUrhh-d9JpA?feature=share" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Maddie and David</a> from Moonlighting, lots of <a href="https://youtu.be/tyZMJV4mAhQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Angel and Buffy</a> kissing, jump in the wayback machine for <a href="https://youtu.be/ikzIXTQUzCw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sam and Diane</a> from Cheers, and more recently <a href="https://youtu.be/Zsqr-K9Kats" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jim and Pam</a> from The Office.</p><p>The first gay kiss on network TV was on <a href="https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2018/03/193489/gay-lesbian-kiss-on-tv-scenes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LA Law back in 1991</a>.</p><p>In the 80s and 90s, we imprinted hard on movies with great kissing scenes: The primordial kiss that was <a href="https://youtu.be/7rcb9KI07XE?t=128" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Han Solo and Princess Leia</a> in The Empire Strikes Back, the <a href="https://youtu.be/oXHwV2iwFrk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“No Kissing on the Mouth” from Pretty Woman</a> and Jen forgot to mention another 90s classic, <a href="https://youtu.be/XNwPbvwxsmw?t=235" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Poetic Justice with Tupac and Janet Jackson</a>. Hello to that last scene from <a href="https://youtu.be/hEY2L9sXjwU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Never Been Kissed with Drew Barrymore</a>. People have made entire YouTube videos of <a href="https://youtu.be/tEegl43aPUA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">great movie kisses</a>.</p><p>Why did people use a metaphor about <a href="https://www.glamour.com/story/lets-settle-this-baseball-and" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“Rounding the bases”</a> to discuss sex back in the day? Who knows!</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We’re talking kissing today! So simple and so powerful, there’s no doubt that that first kiss in romance is always an important one. This episode was inspired by our recent readalong of Her Best Worst Mistake, but we talk about some other great books (most of which we’ve talked about before) with truly excellent kisses. Enjoy…and tell us about your favorite kisses in books, movies, tv shows…wherever you get your superior smooching. </p><p>We have a Patreon now, and it comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more at patreon.com</a>.</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p>Kissing is the best, and we are obsessed with the first kisses from the following movies and TV shows: <a href="https://youtube.com/shorts/bUrhh-d9JpA?feature=share" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Maddie and David</a> from Moonlighting, lots of <a href="https://youtu.be/tyZMJV4mAhQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Angel and Buffy</a> kissing, jump in the wayback machine for <a href="https://youtu.be/ikzIXTQUzCw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sam and Diane</a> from Cheers, and more recently <a href="https://youtu.be/Zsqr-K9Kats" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jim and Pam</a> from The Office.</p><p>The first gay kiss on network TV was on <a href="https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2018/03/193489/gay-lesbian-kiss-on-tv-scenes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LA Law back in 1991</a>.</p><p>In the 80s and 90s, we imprinted hard on movies with great kissing scenes: The primordial kiss that was <a href="https://youtu.be/7rcb9KI07XE?t=128" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Han Solo and Princess Leia</a> in The Empire Strikes Back, the <a href="https://youtu.be/oXHwV2iwFrk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“No Kissing on the Mouth” from Pretty Woman</a> and Jen forgot to mention another 90s classic, <a href="https://youtu.be/XNwPbvwxsmw?t=235" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Poetic Justice with Tupac and Janet Jackson</a>. Hello to that last scene from <a href="https://youtu.be/hEY2L9sXjwU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Never Been Kissed with Drew Barrymore</a>. People have made entire YouTube videos of <a href="https://youtu.be/tEegl43aPUA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">great movie kisses</a>.</p><p>Why did people use a metaphor about <a href="https://www.glamour.com/story/lets-settle-this-baseball-and" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“Rounding the bases”</a> to discuss sex back in the day? Who knows!</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/5/23/s0536-kissing-in-romance-novels]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:646ceeec7ff3a2007c94d86c</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2023 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/88460f4a-acff-4d11-9bbc-4ec1d41d9f89/fated-mates-best-kisses-in-romance.mp3" length="62182909" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:00:14</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>40</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>40</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>The Trailblazers conversations continue this week with the brilliantly talented Loretta Chase, who we adore, and not only because she wrote one of our favorite romances of all time. We obviously talk about Lord of Scoundrels and Jessica and Dain, but we also talk about writing, about the challenges of writer’s block, about the glorious rabbit holes of research, and yes…we ask hard hitting questions about The Mummy. We are so grateful to Loretta for making time for us, and for writing such glorious books.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-88460f4a-acff-4d11-9bbc-4ec1d41d9f89.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S05.35: Trailblazer Loretta Chase</title><itunes:title>S05.35: Trailblazer Loretta Chase</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><br>The Trailblazers conversations continue this week with the brilliantly talented Loretta Chase, who we adore, and not only because she wrote one of our favorite romances of all time. We obviously talk about Lord of Scoundrels and Jessica and Dain, but we also talk about writing, about the challenges of writer’s block, about the glorious rabbit holes of research, and yes…we ask hard hitting questions about The Mummy. We are so grateful to Loretta for making time for us, and for writing such glorious books.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you are in New England, you can meet Loretta and Sarah at the Ashland Public Library Romance Festival this Saturday, May 20th in Ashland, MA. Attendance is free! Learn more and register at <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/romancing-new-england-romcon-romance-festival-ashland-public-library-tickets-516880923757">Eventbrite</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We have a Patreon now, and it comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates">Learn more at patreon.com</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Welcome author <a href="https://lorettachase.com/">Loretta Chase</a>, author of over 20 historical romance novels. We did a deep dive on <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/11/25/s0212-lord-of-scoundrels">Lord of Scoundrels</a> back in season 2.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Authors mentioned: <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/1/2/s0418-jayne-ann-krentz-a-trailblazer-episode">Jayne Ann Krentz</a> writing as Amanda Quick, <a href="https://susanhollowayscott.com/">Susan Holloway Scott</a>, <a href="https://maryjoputney.com/">Mary Jo Putney</a>, and <a href="https://www.carolinelinden.com/">Caroline Linden</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Publishing Professionals: Walker &amp; Co. Publishers, editor Ellen Edwards, , Gail ? at Berkley, Romantic Times magazine.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><br>The Trailblazers conversations continue this week with the brilliantly talented Loretta Chase, who we adore, and not only because she wrote one of our favorite romances of all time. We obviously talk about Lord of Scoundrels and Jessica and Dain, but we also talk about writing, about the challenges of writer’s block, about the glorious rabbit holes of research, and yes…we ask hard hitting questions about The Mummy. We are so grateful to Loretta for making time for us, and for writing such glorious books.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you are in New England, you can meet Loretta and Sarah at the Ashland Public Library Romance Festival this Saturday, May 20th in Ashland, MA. Attendance is free! Learn more and register at <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/romancing-new-england-romcon-romance-festival-ashland-public-library-tickets-516880923757">Eventbrite</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We have a Patreon now, and it comes with an extremely busy and fun Discord community! Join other magnificent firebirds to hang out, talk romance, and be cool together in a private group full of excellent people. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/fatedmates">Learn more at patreon.com</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Welcome author <a href="https://lorettachase.com/">Loretta Chase</a>, author of over 20 historical romance novels. We did a deep dive on <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/11/25/s0212-lord-of-scoundrels">Lord of Scoundrels</a> back in season 2.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Authors mentioned: <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/1/2/s0418-jayne-ann-krentz-a-trailblazer-episode">Jayne Ann Krentz</a> writing as Amanda Quick, <a href="https://susanhollowayscott.com/">Susan Holloway Scott</a>, <a href="https://maryjoputney.com/">Mary Jo Putney</a>, and <a href="https://www.carolinelinden.com/">Caroline Linden</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Publishing Professionals: Walker &amp; Co. Publishers, editor Ellen Edwards, , Gail ? at Berkley, Romantic Times magazine.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/5/16/s0535-trailblazer-loretta-chase]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:646394a562199d57d00f5b48</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bb283ca5-0d8f-4dc2-8b1a-a1911bcac01d/red-trailblazers.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2023 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/85399538-bc98-46be-ada4-ee342fd46c8b/fated-mates-loretta-chase.mp3" length="76708371" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:17:46</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>39</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>39</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>
The Trailblazers conversations continue this week with the brilliantly talented Loretta Chase, who we adore, and not only because she wrote one of our favorite romances of all time. We obviously talk about Lord of Scoundrels and Jessica and Dain, but we also talk about writing, about the challenges of writer’s block, about the glorious rabbit holes of research, and yes…we ask hard hitting questions about The Mummy. We are so grateful to Loretta for making time for us, and for writing such glorious books.</itunes:summary></item><item><title>S05.34: Her Best Worst Mistake by Sarah Mayberry</title><itunes:title>Her Best Worst Mistake by Sarah Mayberry</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This week, we’re talking about one of our very favorite romance novels, Sarah Mayberry’s absolute banger, <a href="https://amzn.to/3LR0oxJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Her Best Worst Mistake</em></a>. We talk about how enemies to lovers works best, about how POV changes the whole game with this particular trope, about how Mayberry threads a very difficult needle with the main characters’ past relationship, and about how conflict somehow remains queen, even when not a ton is going on on page. All that, and it’s a novella! An absolute gem. </p><p>We hope you love this one as much as we did. Read <em>Her Best Worst Mistake</em> in ebook at <a href="https://amzn.to/40Xl3pA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/her-best-worst-mistake-sarah-mayberry/1110621668?ean=2940033174072" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/her-best-worst-mistake" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/her-best-worst-mistake/id527773096" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Along with giving great writing advice, Sherry Thomas writes an amazing romance. Check out our season 3 deep dive of <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/5/9/s0338-ravishing-the-heiress-by-sherry-thomas" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ravishing the Heiress.</a></li><li>If you, too, are a fan of Peach schnapps, maybe it’s time to mix up some <a href="https://insanelygoodrecipes.com/peach-schnapps-drinks/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">summer cocktails</a>.</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/zuXtnLdS9Sw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jaguar is all in the pronunciation</a> when you think about it.</li><li>All about <a href="https://www.mango.org/mango-facts/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">mangoes</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/5/8/s0534-her-best-worst-mistake-by-sarah-mayberry </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, we’re talking about one of our very favorite romance novels, Sarah Mayberry’s absolute banger, <a href="https://amzn.to/3LR0oxJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Her Best Worst Mistake</em></a>. We talk about how enemies to lovers works best, about how POV changes the whole game with this particular trope, about how Mayberry threads a very difficult needle with the main characters’ past relationship, and about how conflict somehow remains queen, even when not a ton is going on on page. All that, and it’s a novella! An absolute gem. </p><p>We hope you love this one as much as we did. Read <em>Her Best Worst Mistake</em> in ebook at <a href="https://amzn.to/40Xl3pA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/her-best-worst-mistake-sarah-mayberry/1110621668?ean=2940033174072" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/her-best-worst-mistake" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/her-best-worst-mistake/id527773096" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Along with giving great writing advice, Sherry Thomas writes an amazing romance. Check out our season 3 deep dive of <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/5/9/s0338-ravishing-the-heiress-by-sherry-thomas" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ravishing the Heiress.</a></li><li>If you, too, are a fan of Peach schnapps, maybe it’s time to mix up some <a href="https://insanelygoodrecipes.com/peach-schnapps-drinks/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">summer cocktails</a>.</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/zuXtnLdS9Sw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jaguar is all in the pronunciation</a> when you think about it.</li><li>All about <a href="https://www.mango.org/mango-facts/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">mangoes</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/5/8/s0534-her-best-worst-mistake-by-sarah-mayberry </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/5/8/s0534-her-best-worst-mistake-by-sarah-mayberry]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:64599b1aea1c96115cb9a269</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2023 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/21419b2d-65bb-4483-8101-dcb41f6a9cb9/fated-mates-her-best-worst-mistake.mp3" length="68154459" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:07:46</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>38</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>38</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>This week, we’re talking about one of our very favorite romance novels, Sarah Mayberry’s absolute banger, Her Best Worst Mistake. We talk about how enemies to lovers works best, about how POV changes the whole game with this particular trope, about how Mayberry threads a very difficult needle with the main characters’ past relationship, and about how conflict somehow remains queen, even when not a ton is going on on page. All that, and it’s a novella! An absolute gem. 

We hope you love this one as much as we did. Read Her Best Worst Mistake in ebook at Amazon, B&amp;N, Kobo or Apple Books.

Show Notes
Along with giving great writing advice, Sherry Thomas writes an amazing romance. Check out our season 3 deep dive of Ravishing the Heiress.

If you, too, are a fan of Peach schnapps, maybe it’s time to mix up some summer cocktails.

Jaguar is all in the pronunciation when you think about it.

All about mangoes.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-21419b2d-65bb-4483-8101-dcb41f6a9cb9.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S05.33: Bingeable Romance Series</title><itunes:title>Bingeable Romance Series</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>After a number of conversations and requests, we’re talking about the best long-running romance series today! We’ve got something for everyone — paranormal, historical and contemporary — and we’re getting your long, lingering summer reading TBR sorted! We talk about why series work so well for romance, what makes them rewarding, and what we’re looking for when we dive in. </p><p>Next week, we’ve got another read along! Join us to read one of our very favorite short novels, Sarah Mayberry’s <em>Her Best Worst Mistake</em>, which sets the bar for every other enemies to lovers romance ever. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/40Xl3pA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/her-best-worst-mistake-sarah-mayberry/1110621668?ean=2940033174072" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/her-best-worst-mistake" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/her-best-worst-mistake/id527773096" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>. </p><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>There are lots of words for snow, including <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graupel?scrlybrkr=958e9960" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">graupel</a>.</li><li>We loved our conversation with Christine Feehan, and it got us thinking about series. <a href="https://www.ilona-andrews.com/2023/nature-of-the-series-episodic-vs-progressive/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">This is also a great essay about series from Ilona Andrews</a>, who have lots of great long-running series (some of which we mentioned today) and talk about the difference between episodic vs. progressive series.</li><li>Author Heather Burch shared her description of the novel with Sarah as: "an unforgettable character, a relentless threat, and an impossible situation." You can <a href="https://www.heatherburchbooks.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">check out Heather's books here.</a></li><li>In <a href="https://ew.com/author-interviews/2019/05/13/nora-roberts-jd-robb-in-death-book-50/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this EW interview with Nora Roberts</a>, she said the In Death series was supposed to be a trilogy set in the near future.</li><li>Here’s <a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/happyeverafter/2014/02/03/joanna-wylde-interview-motorcycle-clubs-mc/5176635/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a USA Today interview with Joanna Wylde about writing the Reapers Legacy</a> series.</li><li>You can <a href="https://www.lifewire.com/turn-off-popular-highlights-on-kindle-5271917" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">turn off popular highlights</a>, btw.</li><li>Our next read along, next week, is <a href="https://amzn.to/42iWW5K" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Her Best Worst Mistake</a> by Sarah Mayberry.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/5/2/s0533-romance-series </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After a number of conversations and requests, we’re talking about the best long-running romance series today! We’ve got something for everyone — paranormal, historical and contemporary — and we’re getting your long, lingering summer reading TBR sorted! We talk about why series work so well for romance, what makes them rewarding, and what we’re looking for when we dive in. </p><p>Next week, we’ve got another read along! Join us to read one of our very favorite short novels, Sarah Mayberry’s <em>Her Best Worst Mistake</em>, which sets the bar for every other enemies to lovers romance ever. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/40Xl3pA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/her-best-worst-mistake-sarah-mayberry/1110621668?ean=2940033174072" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/her-best-worst-mistake" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/her-best-worst-mistake/id527773096" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>. </p><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>There are lots of words for snow, including <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graupel?scrlybrkr=958e9960" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">graupel</a>.</li><li>We loved our conversation with Christine Feehan, and it got us thinking about series. <a href="https://www.ilona-andrews.com/2023/nature-of-the-series-episodic-vs-progressive/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">This is also a great essay about series from Ilona Andrews</a>, who have lots of great long-running series (some of which we mentioned today) and talk about the difference between episodic vs. progressive series.</li><li>Author Heather Burch shared her description of the novel with Sarah as: "an unforgettable character, a relentless threat, and an impossible situation." You can <a href="https://www.heatherburchbooks.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">check out Heather's books here.</a></li><li>In <a href="https://ew.com/author-interviews/2019/05/13/nora-roberts-jd-robb-in-death-book-50/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this EW interview with Nora Roberts</a>, she said the In Death series was supposed to be a trilogy set in the near future.</li><li>Here’s <a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/happyeverafter/2014/02/03/joanna-wylde-interview-motorcycle-clubs-mc/5176635/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a USA Today interview with Joanna Wylde about writing the Reapers Legacy</a> series.</li><li>You can <a href="https://www.lifewire.com/turn-off-popular-highlights-on-kindle-5271917" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">turn off popular highlights</a>, btw.</li><li>Our next read along, next week, is <a href="https://amzn.to/42iWW5K" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Her Best Worst Mistake</a> by Sarah Mayberry.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/5/2/s0533-romance-series </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/5/2/s0533-romance-series]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:645150b36c06240109563448</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 02 May 2023 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/0de2150f-11ab-4392-97b3-428c6965e84b/fated-mates-romance-series.mp3" length="135822612" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>02:16:34</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>37</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>37</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>After a number of conversations and requests, we’re talking about the best long-running romance series today! We’ve got something for everyone — paranormal, historical and contemporary — and we’re getting your long, lingering summer reading TBR sorted! We talk about why series work so well for romance, what makes them rewarding, and what we’re looking for when we dive in.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-0de2150f-11ab-4392-97b3-428c6965e84b.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S05.32: Runaway Brides in Romance</title><itunes:title>S05.32: Runaway Brides in Romance</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">It’s runaway bride week here at Fated Mates and we’re delightedly traveling down memory lane to talk Julia Roberts, Sally Field, the importance of significant lips for a proper mustache, and all the ways we love cold feet on the way to the altar! We discuss all the ways runaway brides can happen in romance, talk about our high expectations for this trope…and Sarah realizes she’s written two of them! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our next read along is Sarah Mayberry’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3HeHm34"><em>Her Best Worst Mistake</em></a>, an absolute banger of an enemies-to-lovers romance and one of our favorites. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3HeHm34">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/her-best-worst-mistake/id527773096">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/her-best-worst-mistake-sarah-mayberry/1110621668">Barnes &amp; Noble</a> or <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/her-best-worst-mistake">Kobo</a>. You are in for an absolute treat with this one.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">This week we’re talking about runaway brides (in the past, we also recorded an episode about <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/3/7/s0425-the-waking-up-married-romance-interstitial">Waking Up Married</a>). Some of the primordial runaway brides are from movies: Smokey and the Bandit (1977) and Runaway Bride (1999).</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Sarah recommended an essay called <a href="https://cultcrumbs.com/2021/01/25/the-bizarre-genre-of-runaway-bride-rom-coms/">The Bizarre Genre of Runaway Bride Romcoms,</a> which has some other great movie rom-coms: <a href="https://amzn.to/40HiTdr">Maid of Honor</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/3V6Pubq">Something Borrowed</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/3V6PtEo">My Best Friend’s Wedding</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We’re tired of kids' movies. Jen’s last one was <a href="https://movies.disney.com/big-hero-6">Big Hero 6</a> (that is not hyperbole, she hasn’t seen an animated movie since 2014 when Lil Romance was 11). Other families movies we enjoyed: <a href="https://amzn.to/3oJFZ5Z">Ghostbusters</a> (2016) and <a href="https://amzn.to/3oHTpzo">Fly Away Home</a> (1996).</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.explorepopculture.com/unit-6-1980s/1980s-television">Growing up in the 80s</a>, “those other channels” that weren’t one of the major networks were called <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UHF_television_broadcasting">UHF channels</a>, I think?</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Whew, <a href="https://theweek.com/articles/463257/wedding-industrial-complex">the wedding industrial complex </a>is no joke.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our next read along is <a href="https://amzn.to/3oHQTcp">Her Best Worst Mistake</a> by Sarah Mayberry.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">It’s runaway bride week here at Fated Mates and we’re delightedly traveling down memory lane to talk Julia Roberts, Sally Field, the importance of significant lips for a proper mustache, and all the ways we love cold feet on the way to the altar! We discuss all the ways runaway brides can happen in romance, talk about our high expectations for this trope…and Sarah realizes she’s written two of them! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our next read along is Sarah Mayberry’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3HeHm34"><em>Her Best Worst Mistake</em></a>, an absolute banger of an enemies-to-lovers romance and one of our favorites. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3HeHm34">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/her-best-worst-mistake/id527773096">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/her-best-worst-mistake-sarah-mayberry/1110621668">Barnes &amp; Noble</a> or <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/her-best-worst-mistake">Kobo</a>. You are in for an absolute treat with this one.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">This week we’re talking about runaway brides (in the past, we also recorded an episode about <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/3/7/s0425-the-waking-up-married-romance-interstitial">Waking Up Married</a>). Some of the primordial runaway brides are from movies: Smokey and the Bandit (1977) and Runaway Bride (1999).</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Sarah recommended an essay called <a href="https://cultcrumbs.com/2021/01/25/the-bizarre-genre-of-runaway-bride-rom-coms/">The Bizarre Genre of Runaway Bride Romcoms,</a> which has some other great movie rom-coms: <a href="https://amzn.to/40HiTdr">Maid of Honor</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/3V6Pubq">Something Borrowed</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/3V6PtEo">My Best Friend’s Wedding</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We’re tired of kids' movies. Jen’s last one was <a href="https://movies.disney.com/big-hero-6">Big Hero 6</a> (that is not hyperbole, she hasn’t seen an animated movie since 2014 when Lil Romance was 11). Other families movies we enjoyed: <a href="https://amzn.to/3oJFZ5Z">Ghostbusters</a> (2016) and <a href="https://amzn.to/3oHTpzo">Fly Away Home</a> (1996).</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.explorepopculture.com/unit-6-1980s/1980s-television">Growing up in the 80s</a>, “those other channels” that weren’t one of the major networks were called <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UHF_television_broadcasting">UHF channels</a>, I think?</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Whew, <a href="https://theweek.com/articles/463257/wedding-industrial-complex">the wedding industrial complex </a>is no joke.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our next read along is <a href="https://amzn.to/3oHQTcp">Her Best Worst Mistake</a> by Sarah Mayberry.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/4/25/s0532-runaway-brides-in-romance]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:644842b56540dd5b0be436d5</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/a8f3ce52-50fc-43ae-bd6d-e5e7cd83c34c/purple-interstitial.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2023 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/d198d7ab-6199-4fee-ae34-cb9b9678c18a/fated-mates-runaway-bride.mp3" length="71764346" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:09:20</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>36</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>36</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>It’s runaway bride week here at Fated Mates and we’re delightedly traveling down memory lane to talk Julia Roberts, Sally Field, the importance of significant lips for a proper mustache, and all the ways we love cold feet on the way to the altar! We discuss all the ways runaway brides can happen in romance, talk about our high expectations for this trope…and Sarah realizes she’s written two of them! </itunes:summary></item><item><title>S05.31: Stealing Midnight by Tracy MacNish: A+ Fresh</title><itunes:title>Stealing Midnight by Tracy MacNish: A+ Fresh</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Finally, the read along we’ve been promising! We’re so excited to talk about Tracy MacNish’s Stealing Midnight, a gothic romance from 2008 that delivers what we here at the pod like to refer to as “the full banana.” We talk about bodysnatchers, about science, about dukes in disguise, about twins, and about why historical romance is unmatched. If you know Tracy MacNish, please tell her we love her book, and we’d really appreciate it if she’d right that second one. </p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! Please follow us on your favorite podcasting app, and if you are up for leaving a rating or review there, we would be very grateful.</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Let the New York Public Library <a href="https://www.nypl.org/blog/2018/10/03/brief-history-gothic-romance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">explain the history of gothic romance to you.</a></li><li>Perhaps you want to know a little bit more about <a href="https://library.uthscsa.edu/2015/04/the-diary-of-a-resurrectionist-the-value-of-death/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Resurrectionists and grave robbers.</a> Most <a href="https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofBritain/The-Art-of-Bodysnatching/#:~:text=The%20bodysnatcher%20or%20'Sack%20'em,shipped%20to%20their%20final%20destination" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bodysnatchers</a> were working for people who were <a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/in-need-cadavers-19th-century-medical-students-raided-baltimores-graves-180970629/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">learning about human anatomy.</a></li><li>I guess you could watch <a href="https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_banshees_of_inisherin" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Banshees of Inisherin</a> if you want to learn to correctly pronounce the name Padraig.</li><li>Should you <a href="https://www.twiniversity.com/win-birth-order-2/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tell your twins their birth order?</a></li><li>Talking about <a href="https://www.masterclass.com/articles/writing-101-what-is-a-foil-character-in-literature-learn-about-2-types-of-literary-foils-and-the-differences-between-foil-and-antagonist" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">foils is some real English teacher business.</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gawain" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sir Gawain</a> was one of King Arthur’s knights</li><li><a href="https://gizmodo.com/why-spanish-fly-only-works-on-men-and-is-deadly-5983275" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spanish fly</a> is a real thing, and probably best to stay away from it.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/4/18/s0531-stealing-midnight-by-tracy-macnish </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally, the read along we’ve been promising! We’re so excited to talk about Tracy MacNish’s Stealing Midnight, a gothic romance from 2008 that delivers what we here at the pod like to refer to as “the full banana.” We talk about bodysnatchers, about science, about dukes in disguise, about twins, and about why historical romance is unmatched. If you know Tracy MacNish, please tell her we love her book, and we’d really appreciate it if she’d right that second one. </p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! Please follow us on your favorite podcasting app, and if you are up for leaving a rating or review there, we would be very grateful.</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Let the New York Public Library <a href="https://www.nypl.org/blog/2018/10/03/brief-history-gothic-romance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">explain the history of gothic romance to you.</a></li><li>Perhaps you want to know a little bit more about <a href="https://library.uthscsa.edu/2015/04/the-diary-of-a-resurrectionist-the-value-of-death/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Resurrectionists and grave robbers.</a> Most <a href="https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofBritain/The-Art-of-Bodysnatching/#:~:text=The%20bodysnatcher%20or%20'Sack%20'em,shipped%20to%20their%20final%20destination" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bodysnatchers</a> were working for people who were <a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/in-need-cadavers-19th-century-medical-students-raided-baltimores-graves-180970629/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">learning about human anatomy.</a></li><li>I guess you could watch <a href="https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_banshees_of_inisherin" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Banshees of Inisherin</a> if you want to learn to correctly pronounce the name Padraig.</li><li>Should you <a href="https://www.twiniversity.com/win-birth-order-2/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tell your twins their birth order?</a></li><li>Talking about <a href="https://www.masterclass.com/articles/writing-101-what-is-a-foil-character-in-literature-learn-about-2-types-of-literary-foils-and-the-differences-between-foil-and-antagonist" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">foils is some real English teacher business.</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gawain" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sir Gawain</a> was one of King Arthur’s knights</li><li><a href="https://gizmodo.com/why-spanish-fly-only-works-on-men-and-is-deadly-5983275" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spanish fly</a> is a real thing, and probably best to stay away from it.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/4/18/s0531-stealing-midnight-by-tracy-macnish </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/4/18/s0531-stealing-midnight-by-tracy-macnish]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:643eba65ed703e2dc877ea4c</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2023 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/fc15746b-874d-49b5-a2f8-a11bb202af73/fated-mates-stealing-midnight.mp3" length="128946243" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>02:10:00</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>35</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>35</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Finally, the read along we’ve been promising! We’re so excited to talk about Tracy MacNish’s Stealing Midnight, a gothic romance from 2008 that delivers what we here at the pod like to refer to as “the full banana.” We talk about bodysnatchers, about science, about dukes in disguise, about twins, and about why historical romance is unmatched. If you know Tracy MacNish, please tell her we love her book, and we’d really appreciate it if she’d right that second one.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-fc15746b-874d-49b5-a2f8-a11bb202af73.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S05.30: Christine Feehan: Trailblazer</title><itunes:title>S05.30: Trailblazer Christine Feehan</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This week, we’re sharing our fantastic conversation with trailblazer Christine Feehan, an undeniable force in the rise of paranormal romance in the early 2000s. We discuss the genesis of her work, the way she builds her far-reaching worlds, her relationship to readers, her heroes, her sex scenes, and the long and winding path of her career. </p><p>Our conversation covers a lot of ground—personal, professional, paranormal and powerful, and we’re so grateful to Christine Feehan for making time for Fated Mates. You’re going to love this one, Firebirds.</p><p>Next week, our first read along of 2023 is Tracy MacNish’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3imUjP3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Stealing Midnight</em></a>—we’ve heard the calls from our gothic romance readers and we’re delivering with this truly bananas story, in which the hero is dug out of a grave and delivered, barely alive, to the heroine. Get ready. You can find <em>Stealing Midnight</em> (for $1.99!) at <a href="https://amzn.to/3imUjP3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/stealing-midnight-tracy-macnish/1100324522" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/stealing-midnight-4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/stealing-midnight/id411519173" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>.</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.christinefeehan.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Welcome to Christine Feehan</a>, author of almost 100 romance novels. Her next book, Ghostly Game, is part of the Ghostwalker series and will be released May 2, 2023.</p><p>PEOPLE : editor Alicia Condon at Dorchester and now Kensington, and editor Cindy Hwang at Berkley.</p><p>BOOKS: <a href="https://amzn.to/3KyaLWq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Freckles</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/3GFM1un" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Harvester</a> by Gene Stratton Porter, Louisa May Alcott, <a href="https://amzn.to/43snxyo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Bourne Identity</a> by Robert Ludlum, Mary Janice Davidson, <a href="https://amzn.to/3KRdXOj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gift of Fire</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/43u7Siq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gift of Gold</a> by Jayne Ann Krentz, <a href="https://amzn.to/3o7znhu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/410PLPk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Beekeeper’s Apprentice</a> by Laurie R. King.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, we’re sharing our fantastic conversation with trailblazer Christine Feehan, an undeniable force in the rise of paranormal romance in the early 2000s. We discuss the genesis of her work, the way she builds her far-reaching worlds, her relationship to readers, her heroes, her sex scenes, and the long and winding path of her career. </p><p>Our conversation covers a lot of ground—personal, professional, paranormal and powerful, and we’re so grateful to Christine Feehan for making time for Fated Mates. You’re going to love this one, Firebirds.</p><p>Next week, our first read along of 2023 is Tracy MacNish’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3imUjP3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Stealing Midnight</em></a>—we’ve heard the calls from our gothic romance readers and we’re delivering with this truly bananas story, in which the hero is dug out of a grave and delivered, barely alive, to the heroine. Get ready. You can find <em>Stealing Midnight</em> (for $1.99!) at <a href="https://amzn.to/3imUjP3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/stealing-midnight-tracy-macnish/1100324522" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/stealing-midnight-4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/stealing-midnight/id411519173" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>.</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.christinefeehan.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Welcome to Christine Feehan</a>, author of almost 100 romance novels. Her next book, Ghostly Game, is part of the Ghostwalker series and will be released May 2, 2023.</p><p>PEOPLE : editor Alicia Condon at Dorchester and now Kensington, and editor Cindy Hwang at Berkley.</p><p>BOOKS: <a href="https://amzn.to/3KyaLWq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Freckles</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/3GFM1un" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Harvester</a> by Gene Stratton Porter, Louisa May Alcott, <a href="https://amzn.to/43snxyo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Bourne Identity</a> by Robert Ludlum, Mary Janice Davidson, <a href="https://amzn.to/3KRdXOj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gift of Fire</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/43u7Siq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gift of Gold</a> by Jayne Ann Krentz, <a href="https://amzn.to/3o7znhu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/410PLPk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Beekeeper’s Apprentice</a> by Laurie R. King.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/4/11/s0530-trailblazer-christine-feehan]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:64355c0cb931572ca38d0f45</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/b2c4ab7c-e6e9-4341-aa13-8fd493a87c9e/red-trailblazers.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 12 Apr 2023 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/1f718968-bb14-4ebe-8a94-73b6fe448004/fated-mates-christine-feehan.mp3" length="73623412" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:12:41</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>34</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>34</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>This week, we’re sharing our fantastic conversation with trailblazer Christine Feehan, an undeniable force in the rise of paranormal romance in the early 2000s. We discuss the genesis of her work, the way she builds her far-reaching worlds, her relationship to readers, her heroes, her sex scenes, and the long and winding path of her career. 

Our conversation covers a lot of ground—personal, professional, paranormal and powerful, and we’re so grateful to Christine Feehan for making time for Fated Mates. You’re going to love this one, Firebirds.</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/6d0a78c0-a9eb-4450-809c-6e35098d1d97/index.html" type="text/html"/><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-1f718968-bb14-4ebe-8a94-73b6fe448004.json" type="application/json+chapters"/><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="video/youtube" title="S05.30: Christine Feehan: Trailblazer"><podcast:source uri="https://youtu.be/0I0IF-UWKU8"/></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>S05.29: Spring Romance Recommendations: Sarah &amp; Jen fill your TBR</title><itunes:title>S05.29: Spring Romance Recommendations: Sarah &amp; Jen fill your TBR</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We were together for the first time in a while, so we decided to record on Sarah’s couch! We answer questions from the audience at Fated Mates Live, recommend Spring romance novels, fill your TBR pile and bantr. It’s nice. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Next week, we’re reading Tracy MacNish’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3imUjP3"><em>Stealing Midnight</em></a>—we’ve heard the calls from our gothic romance readers and we’re delivering with this truly bananas story, in which the hero is dug out of a grave and delivered, barely alive, to the heroine. Get ready. You can find <em>Stealing Midnight</em> at <a href="https://amzn.to/3imUjP3">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/stealing-midnight-tracy-macnish/1100324522">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/stealing-midnight-4">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/stealing-midnight/id411519173">Apple Books</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We had a great time at <a href="https://www.bkmag.com/2023/03/30/orc-porn-santa-fetishes-roy-kent-scenes-from-a-romance-podcast-taping/">Fated Mates Live!</a> Thanks to everyone for coming, to <a href="https://www.thewilliamvale.com/">The William Vale</a> for being a great location, and to <a href="https://www.wordbookstores.com/">Word bookstores</a> for selling books. <a href="https://www.vulture.com/2016/03/how-comedian-pat-stango-made-his-day-job-his-dream-job.html">Producer Pat</a> from Learning the Tropes was Eric’s co-producer that night! A huge thanks to <a href="https://www.read-forever.com/">Grand Central/Forever</a>, <a href="https://www.sourcebooks.com/romance.html">Sourcebooks</a>, and <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/romance/">Berkley Romance</a> for donating books for us to give away!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you are ever in Williamsburg, you should go ahead and <a href="https://www.grubstreet.com/2022/12/best-pizza-neighborhood-williamsburg-nyc.html">order some pizza</a>. Jen ordered from Mo’s General and it was delicious.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">A primer on <a href="https://www.learningforjustice.org/magazine/what-is-the-model-minority-myth">the Model Minority</a> Myth.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Some real life examples of people dancing themselves to death.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><em>A Splash of Cream at the Alabaster Cafe</em> came out 6 weeks after <em>Morning Glory Milking Farm</em>, but also <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation">correlation does not imply causation.</a></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We were together for the first time in a while, so we decided to record on Sarah’s couch! We answer questions from the audience at Fated Mates Live, recommend Spring romance novels, fill your TBR pile and bantr. It’s nice. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Next week, we’re reading Tracy MacNish’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3imUjP3"><em>Stealing Midnight</em></a>—we’ve heard the calls from our gothic romance readers and we’re delivering with this truly bananas story, in which the hero is dug out of a grave and delivered, barely alive, to the heroine. Get ready. You can find <em>Stealing Midnight</em> at <a href="https://amzn.to/3imUjP3">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/stealing-midnight-tracy-macnish/1100324522">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/stealing-midnight-4">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/stealing-midnight/id411519173">Apple Books</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We had a great time at <a href="https://www.bkmag.com/2023/03/30/orc-porn-santa-fetishes-roy-kent-scenes-from-a-romance-podcast-taping/">Fated Mates Live!</a> Thanks to everyone for coming, to <a href="https://www.thewilliamvale.com/">The William Vale</a> for being a great location, and to <a href="https://www.wordbookstores.com/">Word bookstores</a> for selling books. <a href="https://www.vulture.com/2016/03/how-comedian-pat-stango-made-his-day-job-his-dream-job.html">Producer Pat</a> from Learning the Tropes was Eric’s co-producer that night! A huge thanks to <a href="https://www.read-forever.com/">Grand Central/Forever</a>, <a href="https://www.sourcebooks.com/romance.html">Sourcebooks</a>, and <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/romance/">Berkley Romance</a> for donating books for us to give away!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you are ever in Williamsburg, you should go ahead and <a href="https://www.grubstreet.com/2022/12/best-pizza-neighborhood-williamsburg-nyc.html">order some pizza</a>. Jen ordered from Mo’s General and it was delicious.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">A primer on <a href="https://www.learningforjustice.org/magazine/what-is-the-model-minority-myth">the Model Minority</a> Myth.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Some real life examples of people dancing themselves to death.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><em>A Splash of Cream at the Alabaster Cafe</em> came out 6 weeks after <em>Morning Glory Milking Farm</em>, but also <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation">correlation does not imply causation.</a></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/4/3/s0529-spring-romance-recommendations-sarah-amp-jen-fill-your-tbr]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:642b8404b149ae7083298ba3</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/06265314-653b-4e99-926b-b3e7d78d4576/purple-interstitial.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 05 Apr 2023 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/d2334a20-8302-4746-991f-653cab5b6bc8/fated-mates-on-the-couch-reva.mp3" length="73774024" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:10:54</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>33</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>33</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We were together for the first time in a while, so we decided to record on Sarah’s couch! We answer questions from the audience at Fated Mates Live, recommend Spring romance novels, fill your TBR pile and bantr. It’s nice. </itunes:summary></item><item><title>S05.28: Women&apos;s Friendships in Romance with Sophie Jordan</title><itunes:title>Women&apos;s Friendships in Romance with Sophie Jordan</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Sophie Jordan is back again! She’s got a new book out, <em><a href="https://amzn.to/3za7Qyd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Countess</a></em>, the first in her Scandalous Ladies of London series, featuring a true Regency squad full of scandalous ladies and answering the question: <em>What if the Real Housewives were actually Regency-era aristocrats?</em> We talk about friendships in old school romances, about why groups of women are game changers in fiction and in real life, and fill your TBR with groups you will absolutely wish you could be friends with.</p><p>In two weeks, we’re reading Tracy MacNish’s <em><a href="https://amzn.to/3imUjP3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stealing Midnight</a></em>—we’ve heard the calls from our gothic romance readers and we’re delivering with this truly bananas story, in which the hero is dug out of a grave and delivered, barely alive, to the heroine. Get ready. You can find <em>Stealing Midnight</em> (for $1.99!) at <a href="https://amzn.to/3imUjP3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/stealing-midnight-tracy-macnish/1100324522" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/stealing-midnight-4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/stealing-midnight/id411519173" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Welcome <a href="https://www.sophiejordan.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sophie Jordan</a>. Her newest release, <a href="https://amzn.to/3za7Qyd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Countess</a>, is the first in the Scandalous Ladies of London Series. It’s loosely based on the reality TV show, The Real Housewives. Stay tuned at the end of the episode for the first two chapters of <a href="https://amzn.to/3zb9mQD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Countess in Audiobook</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>In horror, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_girl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“the final girl”</a> is a trope about who survives.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Check out the <a href="https://www.pocketbooksshop.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pocket Bookshop</a> next time you’re in Lancaster PA.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Enid is a secondary character from several of Sophie’s books in <a href="https://amzn.to/3ZCwD8Z" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Rogue Files</a> series.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Check out the <a href="https://twitter.com/iceplanetpod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ice Planet Podcast</a> if you’re a fan of the series.</li></ol><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/3/27/s0528-womens-friendships-in-romance-with-sophie-jordan </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sophie Jordan is back again! She’s got a new book out, <em><a href="https://amzn.to/3za7Qyd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Countess</a></em>, the first in her Scandalous Ladies of London series, featuring a true Regency squad full of scandalous ladies and answering the question: <em>What if the Real Housewives were actually Regency-era aristocrats?</em> We talk about friendships in old school romances, about why groups of women are game changers in fiction and in real life, and fill your TBR with groups you will absolutely wish you could be friends with.</p><p>In two weeks, we’re reading Tracy MacNish’s <em><a href="https://amzn.to/3imUjP3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stealing Midnight</a></em>—we’ve heard the calls from our gothic romance readers and we’re delivering with this truly bananas story, in which the hero is dug out of a grave and delivered, barely alive, to the heroine. Get ready. You can find <em>Stealing Midnight</em> (for $1.99!) at <a href="https://amzn.to/3imUjP3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/stealing-midnight-tracy-macnish/1100324522" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/stealing-midnight-4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/stealing-midnight/id411519173" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Welcome <a href="https://www.sophiejordan.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sophie Jordan</a>. Her newest release, <a href="https://amzn.to/3za7Qyd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Countess</a>, is the first in the Scandalous Ladies of London Series. It’s loosely based on the reality TV show, The Real Housewives. Stay tuned at the end of the episode for the first two chapters of <a href="https://amzn.to/3zb9mQD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Countess in Audiobook</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>In horror, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_girl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“the final girl”</a> is a trope about who survives.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Check out the <a href="https://www.pocketbooksshop.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pocket Bookshop</a> next time you’re in Lancaster PA.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Enid is a secondary character from several of Sophie’s books in <a href="https://amzn.to/3ZCwD8Z" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Rogue Files</a> series.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Check out the <a href="https://twitter.com/iceplanetpod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ice Planet Podcast</a> if you’re a fan of the series.</li></ol><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/3/27/s0528-womens-friendships-in-romance-with-sophie-jordan </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/3/27/s0528-womens-friendships-in-romance-with-sophie-jordan]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:64222da3afe84925d99b0b4b</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 29 Mar 2023 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/97227da1-d9ff-4c9a-a2c7-0fdd551d29db/fated-mates-sophie-womens-friendship.mp3" length="104737510" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:46:22</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>32</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>32</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Sophie Jordan is back again! She’s got a new book out, The Countess, the first in her Scandalous Ladies of London series, featuring a true Regency squad full of scandalous ladies and answering the question: What if the Real Housewives were actually Regency-era aristocrats?  We talk about friendships in old school romances, about why groups of women are game changers in fiction and in real life, and fill your TBR with groups you will absolutely wish you could be friends with.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-97227da1-d9ff-4c9a-a2c7-0fdd551d29db.json" type="application/json+chapters"/><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="video/youtube" title="Women’s Friendship in Romance with Sophie Jordan"><podcast:source uri="https://youtu.be/9Ao5NNwQ05g"/></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>S05.27: Teachers and Librarians in Romance</title><itunes:title>S05.27: Teachers and Librarians in Romance</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We’re talking about teachers and librarians in romance today, but don’t worry — not hot-for-teacher kinds of teachers and librarians (someday, Sarah will do that one on her own, maybe). Instead, we’re talking about romances with main characters who are teachers or librarians, in honor of the hardworking, committed teachers and librarians who are fighting book bans all across the United States right now. </p><p>And speaking of book bans…we’ve got author, activist and our friend Jarrett Dapier back with us this week to talk about the upcoming Spring off-cycle elections that are taking place around the country in the coming weeks…and how book bans are on the ballot in so many places <em>right now</em>. We encourage you to check the dates of your local elections, and make sure that if school or library board positions are on the ballot, you’ve done some research before you head to the polls! </p><p>You can still get tickets to <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/word-presents-fated-mates-live-show-at-the-william-vale-tickets-529720467177" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates Live!</a> Join us <em>this Friday,</em> March 24 in New York City with Tessa Bailey, Andie J. Christopher, Mila Finelli, Adriana Herrera, and Joanna Shupe! Amazing stories will be told, many laughs will be had, terrific books will be on sale, and there will be a bar! <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/word-presents-fated-mates-live-show-at-the-william-vale-tickets-529720467177" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Get tickets now</a>!</p><p>Our first read along of 2023 (soon! we promise!) is Tracy MacNish’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3imUjP3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Stealing Midnight</em></a>—we’ve heard the calls from our gothic romance readers and we’re delivering with this truly bananas story, in which the hero is dug out of a grave and delivered, barely alive, to the heroine. Get ready. You can find <em>Stealing Midnight</em> (for $1.99!) at <a href="https://amzn.to/3imUjP3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/stealing-midnight-tracy-macnish/1100324522" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/stealing-midnight-4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/stealing-midnight/id411519173" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>. </p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p>Welcome <a href="https://www.jarrettdapier.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jarrett Dapier</a>, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3Jsft7O" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Mr. Watson's Chickens</em></a>, back to the podcast. He was a guest on our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">first book banning episode</a>, click to listen and see the show notes. This is a time for action, not just being a keyboard warrior. Check our your local paper if you have one, your school district website, and your library’s website.</p><p>Wondering if there are upcoming elections in your state? Check out <a href="https://www.rockthevote.org/how-to-vote/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rock the Vote</a> and click on your state. You can find information about off-cycle elections, which is what non-November election are called (not “off brand” as Sarah accidentally said on the pod.)</p><p><a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/11/07/the-right-wing-mothers-fuelling-the-school-board-wars" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Moms for Liberty is bad, actually.</a> These groups trying to ban books continue to ramp up their efforts—they are specifically targeting books with any kind of queer characters, regardless of sexual content, books with people of color, and books that tell the accurate story of our history. Other states are looking to ban books with any kind of sexual content. If you are looking for the big picture, you must <a href="https://bookriot.com/category/censorship/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">follow the censorship tag at Book Riot</a>. <a href="https://twitter.com/veronikellymars" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Reporter Kelly Jensen</a> has been on the front line of this story for years, and if you’re looking for resources <a href="https://twitter.com/veronikellymars/status/1548673757237108742?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this monster thread</a> she keeps pinned to her twitter profile has ideas for how to take action. You should also <a href="https://bookriot.com/anti-censorship-groups-across-the-us/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">check out this list to find an anti-censorship group to join in your area.</a></p><p>The story about the library board in <a href="https://bookriot.com/niles-public-library/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Niles, Illinois</a>; an exciting new <a href="https://bookriot.com/illinois-right-to-read-bill/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Right to Read law</a> making it’s way through the Illinois state congress could be duplicated in your state! Call your local rep and senator and tell them you support the freedom to read. <a href="https://www.inquirer.com/news/laurie-halse-anderson-central-bucks-school-board-book-policy-20230315.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Author Laurie Halse Anderson is a model for how you can show up</a>.</p><p>As for book recommendations this week, check out <a href="https://wendythesuperlibrarian.blogspot.com/p/librarians-in-romance.html?m=0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the list of romances about librarians from SuperWendy</a>, and this list from Jessica Pryde, <a href="https://bookriot.com/teacher-romances/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hot for Teacher (but not Mine)</a>. And last but not least, Jen’s list of <a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2017/10/who-did-it-better-in-library.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Who Did it Better in the Library</a>.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We’re talking about teachers and librarians in romance today, but don’t worry — not hot-for-teacher kinds of teachers and librarians (someday, Sarah will do that one on her own, maybe). Instead, we’re talking about romances with main characters who are teachers or librarians, in honor of the hardworking, committed teachers and librarians who are fighting book bans all across the United States right now. </p><p>And speaking of book bans…we’ve got author, activist and our friend Jarrett Dapier back with us this week to talk about the upcoming Spring off-cycle elections that are taking place around the country in the coming weeks…and how book bans are on the ballot in so many places <em>right now</em>. We encourage you to check the dates of your local elections, and make sure that if school or library board positions are on the ballot, you’ve done some research before you head to the polls! </p><p>You can still get tickets to <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/word-presents-fated-mates-live-show-at-the-william-vale-tickets-529720467177" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates Live!</a> Join us <em>this Friday,</em> March 24 in New York City with Tessa Bailey, Andie J. Christopher, Mila Finelli, Adriana Herrera, and Joanna Shupe! Amazing stories will be told, many laughs will be had, terrific books will be on sale, and there will be a bar! <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/word-presents-fated-mates-live-show-at-the-william-vale-tickets-529720467177" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Get tickets now</a>!</p><p>Our first read along of 2023 (soon! we promise!) is Tracy MacNish’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3imUjP3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Stealing Midnight</em></a>—we’ve heard the calls from our gothic romance readers and we’re delivering with this truly bananas story, in which the hero is dug out of a grave and delivered, barely alive, to the heroine. Get ready. You can find <em>Stealing Midnight</em> (for $1.99!) at <a href="https://amzn.to/3imUjP3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/stealing-midnight-tracy-macnish/1100324522" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/stealing-midnight-4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/stealing-midnight/id411519173" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>. </p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p>Welcome <a href="https://www.jarrettdapier.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jarrett Dapier</a>, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3Jsft7O" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Mr. Watson's Chickens</em></a>, back to the podcast. He was a guest on our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">first book banning episode</a>, click to listen and see the show notes. This is a time for action, not just being a keyboard warrior. Check our your local paper if you have one, your school district website, and your library’s website.</p><p>Wondering if there are upcoming elections in your state? Check out <a href="https://www.rockthevote.org/how-to-vote/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rock the Vote</a> and click on your state. You can find information about off-cycle elections, which is what non-November election are called (not “off brand” as Sarah accidentally said on the pod.)</p><p><a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/11/07/the-right-wing-mothers-fuelling-the-school-board-wars" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Moms for Liberty is bad, actually.</a> These groups trying to ban books continue to ramp up their efforts—they are specifically targeting books with any kind of queer characters, regardless of sexual content, books with people of color, and books that tell the accurate story of our history. Other states are looking to ban books with any kind of sexual content. If you are looking for the big picture, you must <a href="https://bookriot.com/category/censorship/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">follow the censorship tag at Book Riot</a>. <a href="https://twitter.com/veronikellymars" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Reporter Kelly Jensen</a> has been on the front line of this story for years, and if you’re looking for resources <a href="https://twitter.com/veronikellymars/status/1548673757237108742?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this monster thread</a> she keeps pinned to her twitter profile has ideas for how to take action. You should also <a href="https://bookriot.com/anti-censorship-groups-across-the-us/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">check out this list to find an anti-censorship group to join in your area.</a></p><p>The story about the library board in <a href="https://bookriot.com/niles-public-library/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Niles, Illinois</a>; an exciting new <a href="https://bookriot.com/illinois-right-to-read-bill/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Right to Read law</a> making it’s way through the Illinois state congress could be duplicated in your state! Call your local rep and senator and tell them you support the freedom to read. <a href="https://www.inquirer.com/news/laurie-halse-anderson-central-bucks-school-board-book-policy-20230315.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Author Laurie Halse Anderson is a model for how you can show up</a>.</p><p>As for book recommendations this week, check out <a href="https://wendythesuperlibrarian.blogspot.com/p/librarians-in-romance.html?m=0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the list of romances about librarians from SuperWendy</a>, and this list from Jessica Pryde, <a href="https://bookriot.com/teacher-romances/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hot for Teacher (but not Mine)</a>. And last but not least, Jen’s list of <a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2017/10/who-did-it-better-in-library.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Who Did it Better in the Library</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/3/21/s0527-teachers-and-librarians-in-romance-interstitial]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:6419f086128ee47886f186f1</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2023 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/4e7f3d1d-f029-4e4b-8fbc-4bab03a2b4aa/fated-mates-teachers-and-librarians.mp3" length="71080152" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:08:48</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>31</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>31</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We’re talking about teachers and librarians in romance today, but don’t worry — not hot-for-teacher kinds of teachers and librarians (someday, Sarah will do that one on her own, maybe). Instead, we’re talking about romances with main characters who are teachers or librarians, in honor of the hardworking, committed teachers and librarians who are fighting book bans all across the United States right now. 

And speaking of book bans…we’ve got author, activist and our friend Jarrett Dapier back with us this week to talk about the upcoming Spring off-cycle elections that are taking place around the country in the coming weeks…and how book bans are on the ballot in so many places right now. We encourage you to check the dates of your local elections, and make sure that if school or library board positions are on the ballot, you’ve done some research before you head to the polls! 
(This episode has some unfixable audio deficiencies. Sorry about that.)</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-4e7f3d1d-f029-4e4b-8fbc-4bab03a2b4aa.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S05.26: Dueling in Romance with Chels: Duels are Never Having to Say You&apos;re Sorry</title><itunes:title>Dueling in Romance with Chels: Duels are Never Having to Say You&apos;re Sorry</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Pistols at dawn, y’all! We’re talking about duels today — what they are, why they exist, who fights them, their rules and why they’re so darn sexy when they are really just silly. We’re taking our twenty paces alongside Chels_ebooks, one of our favorite BookTokkers, who has a longstanding love of old school romances and their covers, and a substack that you should subscribe to immediately. Of course, we’re talking TikTok, too. This one is long and fun and full of book recs, so strap in! </p><p>You can still get tickets to <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/word-presents-fated-mates-live-show-at-the-william-vale-tickets-529720467177" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates Live!</a> Join us on March 24 in New York City with Tessa Bailey, Andie J. Christopher, Mila Finelli, Adriana Herrera, and Joanna Shupe! Amazing stories will be told, many laughs will be had, terrific books will be on sale, and there will be a bar! <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/word-presents-fated-mates-live-show-at-the-william-vale-tickets-529720467177" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Get tickets now</a>!</p><p>Our first read along of 2023 (soon! we promise!) is Tracy MacNish’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3imUjP3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Stealing Midnight</em></a>—we’ve heard the calls from our gothic romance readers and we’re delivering with this truly bananas story, in which the hero is dug out of a grave and delivered, barely alive, to the heroine. Get ready. You can find <em>Stealing Midnight</em> (for $1.99!) at <a href="https://amzn.to/3imUjP3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/stealing-midnight-tracy-macnish/1100324522" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/stealing-midnight-4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/stealing-midnight/id411519173" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>.</p><p>We are thrilled to welcome <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@chels_ebooks/video/7203420664210951467" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chels, the Reigning Monarch of Bodice Ripper TikTok,</a> to the show today. You can also follow them <a href="https://groundhog-apricot-gbcy.squarespace.com/episodes/2023/3/13/chels__ebooks" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">on twitter</a> and subscribe to their substack, <a href="https://theloosecravat.substack.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Loose Cravat</a>.</p><p>Wondering about those TikTok hit pieces we mentioned? Read the ones from <a href="https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/culture/article/booktok-tiktok-books-community" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">British GQ</a> and <a href="https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v45/n02/malin-hay/booktok" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">London Review of Books</a>. It’s a few years old, but this <a href="https://www.wsj.com/video/series/inside-tiktoks-highly-secretive-algorithm/investigation-how-tiktok-algorithm-figures-out-your-deepest-desires/6C0C2040-FF25-4827-8528-2BD6612E3796" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wall Street Journal video</a> is a great look at the mysterious TikTok algorithm and how quickly it will rabbit hole you, and a more recent piece from Vox about<a href="https://www.vox.com/recode/2023/2/2/23582202/tiktok-headquarters-press-accountability-ban-trump" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> TikTok’s recent promises to become more transparent, </a>and another one from The Verge about how <a href="https://www.theverge.com/2019/12/2/20991843/tiktok-bytedance-platform-disabled-autism-lgbt-fat-user-algorithm-reach-limit" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">TikTok suppresses content from disabled users</a>.</p><p>The relationship <a href="https://www.npd.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/Books-USBookTokSSS.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">between BookTok and bookselling</a> is complex and difficult to parse because of the lack of transparency around book sales. Check out <a href="https://www.publicbooks.org/where-is-all-the-book-data/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Where Is All the Book Data by Melanie Walsh</a>, as well as <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/18/books/book-sales-publishing-pandemic-coronavirus.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">how book-buying habits changed during the pandemic</a>.</p><p>Deloping is bad, actually! So If you’d like to learn more about duels, Chels recommends <a href="https://amzn.to/3ZMHein" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pistols at Dawn</a> by Richard Hopton and <a href="https://amzn.to/3TfqqOm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Duel: A History of Duelling</a> by Robert Baldick. Jen recommends this <a href="https://daily.jstor.org/a-slap-followed-by-a-duel/?scrlybrkr&amp;source=gmail" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">article about dueling </a>from <a href="https://daily.jstor.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">JSTOR Daily</a>, or this one about <a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/duel-104161025/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">American dueling in the Smithsonian</a>, which led her to <a href="https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/duel-code-duello-rules-dueling/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Code Duello</a> as one example for the rules of dueling.</p><p>Speaking of <a href="https://daily.jstor.org/moral-panics-a-syllabus/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">moral panics, JSTOR Daily has a list of them!</a> I told you it was a good site!</p><p>Deuling in pop culture: check out <a href="https://youtu.be/CWoHEfmVLQo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Duelists</a> by Ridley Scott, this famous scene from <a href="https://youtu.be/vdnA-ESWcPs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Raiders of the Lost Ark</a>, and of course, <a href="https://youtu.be/TW3-3Xy0kCo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hamilton</a>.</p><p>For some real historical duels, check out: The <a href="https://historianandrew.medium.com/the-man-killed-in-a-duel-where-billiard-balls-were-the-weapons-d74770215570" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">billiards balls duel</a>, The <a href="https://historycollection.com/10-historical-female-duelists-and-their-duels/6/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">topless lady duelers in Austria</a>, additional <a href="https://historycollection.com/10-historical-female-duelists-and-their-duels/7/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ladies being badass</a>, <a href="https://regencyredingote.wordpress.com/2019/05/24/the-naked-duel/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Humphrey Howarth the naked dueler</a>, and <a href="https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/duel-alexander-hamilton-and-aaron-burrs-duel/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Burr and Hamilton</a>. <a href="https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/minute/The_Caning_of_Senator_Charles_Sumner.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Senator Brooks caning Senator Sumner on the Senate floor</a> is another thing entirely.</p><p><a href="https://youtu.be/L0xTCKKAgVk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Glove Slap!</a></p><p>Finally, check out this page from Loretta Chase’s website which describes and <a href="https://lorettachase.com/blog/2020/2/15/the-singing-bird-pistols" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">links to several videos about the Singing bird pistols</a> from Lord Lovedon’s Duel.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pistols at dawn, y’all! We’re talking about duels today — what they are, why they exist, who fights them, their rules and why they’re so darn sexy when they are really just silly. We’re taking our twenty paces alongside Chels_ebooks, one of our favorite BookTokkers, who has a longstanding love of old school romances and their covers, and a substack that you should subscribe to immediately. Of course, we’re talking TikTok, too. This one is long and fun and full of book recs, so strap in! </p><p>You can still get tickets to <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/word-presents-fated-mates-live-show-at-the-william-vale-tickets-529720467177" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates Live!</a> Join us on March 24 in New York City with Tessa Bailey, Andie J. Christopher, Mila Finelli, Adriana Herrera, and Joanna Shupe! Amazing stories will be told, many laughs will be had, terrific books will be on sale, and there will be a bar! <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/word-presents-fated-mates-live-show-at-the-william-vale-tickets-529720467177" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Get tickets now</a>!</p><p>Our first read along of 2023 (soon! we promise!) is Tracy MacNish’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3imUjP3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Stealing Midnight</em></a>—we’ve heard the calls from our gothic romance readers and we’re delivering with this truly bananas story, in which the hero is dug out of a grave and delivered, barely alive, to the heroine. Get ready. You can find <em>Stealing Midnight</em> (for $1.99!) at <a href="https://amzn.to/3imUjP3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/stealing-midnight-tracy-macnish/1100324522" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/stealing-midnight-4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/stealing-midnight/id411519173" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>.</p><p>We are thrilled to welcome <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@chels_ebooks/video/7203420664210951467" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chels, the Reigning Monarch of Bodice Ripper TikTok,</a> to the show today. You can also follow them <a href="https://groundhog-apricot-gbcy.squarespace.com/episodes/2023/3/13/chels__ebooks" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">on twitter</a> and subscribe to their substack, <a href="https://theloosecravat.substack.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Loose Cravat</a>.</p><p>Wondering about those TikTok hit pieces we mentioned? Read the ones from <a href="https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/culture/article/booktok-tiktok-books-community" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">British GQ</a> and <a href="https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v45/n02/malin-hay/booktok" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">London Review of Books</a>. It’s a few years old, but this <a href="https://www.wsj.com/video/series/inside-tiktoks-highly-secretive-algorithm/investigation-how-tiktok-algorithm-figures-out-your-deepest-desires/6C0C2040-FF25-4827-8528-2BD6612E3796" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wall Street Journal video</a> is a great look at the mysterious TikTok algorithm and how quickly it will rabbit hole you, and a more recent piece from Vox about<a href="https://www.vox.com/recode/2023/2/2/23582202/tiktok-headquarters-press-accountability-ban-trump" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> TikTok’s recent promises to become more transparent, </a>and another one from The Verge about how <a href="https://www.theverge.com/2019/12/2/20991843/tiktok-bytedance-platform-disabled-autism-lgbt-fat-user-algorithm-reach-limit" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">TikTok suppresses content from disabled users</a>.</p><p>The relationship <a href="https://www.npd.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/Books-USBookTokSSS.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">between BookTok and bookselling</a> is complex and difficult to parse because of the lack of transparency around book sales. Check out <a href="https://www.publicbooks.org/where-is-all-the-book-data/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Where Is All the Book Data by Melanie Walsh</a>, as well as <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/18/books/book-sales-publishing-pandemic-coronavirus.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">how book-buying habits changed during the pandemic</a>.</p><p>Deloping is bad, actually! So If you’d like to learn more about duels, Chels recommends <a href="https://amzn.to/3ZMHein" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pistols at Dawn</a> by Richard Hopton and <a href="https://amzn.to/3TfqqOm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Duel: A History of Duelling</a> by Robert Baldick. Jen recommends this <a href="https://daily.jstor.org/a-slap-followed-by-a-duel/?scrlybrkr&amp;source=gmail" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">article about dueling </a>from <a href="https://daily.jstor.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">JSTOR Daily</a>, or this one about <a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/duel-104161025/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">American dueling in the Smithsonian</a>, which led her to <a href="https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/duel-code-duello-rules-dueling/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Code Duello</a> as one example for the rules of dueling.</p><p>Speaking of <a href="https://daily.jstor.org/moral-panics-a-syllabus/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">moral panics, JSTOR Daily has a list of them!</a> I told you it was a good site!</p><p>Deuling in pop culture: check out <a href="https://youtu.be/CWoHEfmVLQo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Duelists</a> by Ridley Scott, this famous scene from <a href="https://youtu.be/vdnA-ESWcPs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Raiders of the Lost Ark</a>, and of course, <a href="https://youtu.be/TW3-3Xy0kCo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hamilton</a>.</p><p>For some real historical duels, check out: The <a href="https://historianandrew.medium.com/the-man-killed-in-a-duel-where-billiard-balls-were-the-weapons-d74770215570" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">billiards balls duel</a>, The <a href="https://historycollection.com/10-historical-female-duelists-and-their-duels/6/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">topless lady duelers in Austria</a>, additional <a href="https://historycollection.com/10-historical-female-duelists-and-their-duels/7/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ladies being badass</a>, <a href="https://regencyredingote.wordpress.com/2019/05/24/the-naked-duel/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Humphrey Howarth the naked dueler</a>, and <a href="https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/duel-alexander-hamilton-and-aaron-burrs-duel/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Burr and Hamilton</a>. <a href="https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/minute/The_Caning_of_Senator_Charles_Sumner.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Senator Brooks caning Senator Sumner on the Senate floor</a> is another thing entirely.</p><p><a href="https://youtu.be/L0xTCKKAgVk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Glove Slap!</a></p><p>Finally, check out this page from Loretta Chase’s website which describes and <a href="https://lorettachase.com/blog/2020/2/15/the-singing-bird-pistols" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">links to several videos about the Singing bird pistols</a> from Lord Lovedon’s Duel.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/3/13/s0526-dueling-interstitial-with-chels-duels-are-never-having-to-say-youre-sorry]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:640f442138fb771d877d8235</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2023 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/045dd8f2-7a10-4c7e-a935-03b7231d81c6/fated-mates-chels-ebooks-dueling-reva.mp3" length="98860010" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:37:52</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>30</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>30</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Pistols at dawn, y’all! We’re talking about duels today — what they are, why they exist, who fights them, their rules and why they’re so darn sexy when they are really just silly. We’re taking our twenty paces alongside Chels_ebooks, one of our favorite BookTokkers, who has a longstanding love of old school romances and their covers, and a substack that you should subscribe to immediately. Of course, we’re talking TikTok, too. This one is long and fun and full of book recs, so strap in!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-045dd8f2-7a10-4c7e-a935-03b7231d81c6.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S05.25: Masquerades in Romance</title><itunes:title>S05.25: Masquerades in Romance</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We’re talking Masquerades! Is it the Phantom of the Opera? Is it Amadeus? Is it Jude Deveraux’s The Raider? We don’t know but man we love a masquerade in a romance novel. We talk about the 3 to 5 different types of masks in romances, about why they’re catnip, about what they mean, and recommend a full grip of romances (mostly historical) for you to read. Enjoy!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">You can still get tickets to <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/word-presents-fated-mates-live-show-at-the-william-vale-tickets-529720467177">Fated Mates Live!</a> Join us on March 24 in New York City with Tessa Bailey, Andie J. Christopher, Mila Finelli, Adriana Herrera, and Joanna Shupe! Amazing stories will be told, many laughs will be had, terrific books will be on sale, and there will be a bar! <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/word-presents-fated-mates-live-show-at-the-william-vale-tickets-529720467177">Get tickets now</a>!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our first read along of 2023 (soon! we promise!) is Tracy MacNish’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3imUjP3"><em>Stealing Midnight</em></a>—we’ve heard the calls from our gothic romance readers and we’re delivering with this truly bananas story, in which the hero is dug out of a grave and delivered, barely alive, to the heroine. Get ready. You can find <em>Stealing Midnight</em> (for $1.99!) at <a href="https://amzn.to/3imUjP3">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/stealing-midnight-tracy-macnish/1100324522">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/stealing-midnight-4">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/stealing-midnight/id411519173">Apple Books</a>.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We’re talking Masquerades! Is it the Phantom of the Opera? Is it Amadeus? Is it Jude Deveraux’s The Raider? We don’t know but man we love a masquerade in a romance novel. We talk about the 3 to 5 different types of masks in romances, about why they’re catnip, about what they mean, and recommend a full grip of romances (mostly historical) for you to read. Enjoy!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">You can still get tickets to <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/word-presents-fated-mates-live-show-at-the-william-vale-tickets-529720467177">Fated Mates Live!</a> Join us on March 24 in New York City with Tessa Bailey, Andie J. Christopher, Mila Finelli, Adriana Herrera, and Joanna Shupe! Amazing stories will be told, many laughs will be had, terrific books will be on sale, and there will be a bar! <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/word-presents-fated-mates-live-show-at-the-william-vale-tickets-529720467177">Get tickets now</a>!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our first read along of 2023 (soon! we promise!) is Tracy MacNish’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3imUjP3"><em>Stealing Midnight</em></a>—we’ve heard the calls from our gothic romance readers and we’re delivering with this truly bananas story, in which the hero is dug out of a grave and delivered, barely alive, to the heroine. Get ready. You can find <em>Stealing Midnight</em> (for $1.99!) at <a href="https://amzn.to/3imUjP3">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/stealing-midnight-tracy-macnish/1100324522">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/stealing-midnight-4">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/stealing-midnight/id411519173">Apple Books</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/3/6/s0525-masquerades-interstitial]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:64068bf1d5e0577e2eb8236f</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/797f3a8f-e64d-425a-b427-383777fd84d4/purple-interstitial.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2023 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/4f3d692f-38dc-424c-b6fc-0f9e7983dab9/fated-mates-masquerqades-reva.mp3" length="56484245" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>57:42</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>29</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>29</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We’re talking Masquerades! Is it the Phantom of the Opera? Is it Amadeus? Is it Jude Deveraux’s The Raider? We don’t know but man we love a masquerade in a romance novel. We talk about the 3 to 5 different types of masks in romances, about why they’re catnip, about what they mean, and recommend a full grip of romances (mostly historical) for you to read. Enjoy!</itunes:summary></item><item><title>S05.24: Technology in Romance</title><itunes:title>Technology in Romance</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It feels like you can’t turn around these days without stumbling into a story that’s a little unsettling about technology and how we’re all living our lives in this post (sort of) pandemic world. Between Twitter dramz, TikTok explosions and the rise of AI, it’s a lot. So, it’s probably to be expected that we are talking about how technology is impacting romance novels. We’re talking about texting, about FaceTime, about podcasting, and yes…even about robots. If you can use it to fall in love, there’s a romance using it…and we’re recommending a few we really enjoyed. </p><p>You can still get tickets to <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/word-presents-fated-mates-live-show-at-the-william-vale-tickets-529720467177" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates Live!</a> Join us on March 24 in New York City with Tessa Bailey, Andie J. Christopher, Mila Finelli, Adriana Herrera, and Joanna Shupe! Amazing stories will be told, many laughs will be had, terrific books will be on sale, and there will be a bar! <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/word-presents-fated-mates-live-show-at-the-william-vale-tickets-529720467177" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Get tickets now</a>!</p><p>Our first read along of 2023 (soon! we promise!) is Tracy MacNish’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3imUjP3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Stealing Midnight</em></a>—we’ve heard the calls from our gothic romance readers and we’re delivering with this truly bananas story, in which the hero is dug out of a grave and delivered, barely alive, to the heroine. Get ready. You can find <em>Stealing Midnight</em> (for $1.99!) at <a href="https://amzn.to/3imUjP3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/stealing-midnight-tracy-macnish/1100324522" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/stealing-midnight-4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/stealing-midnight/id411519173" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>.</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p>This New York Times article called <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/10/books/review/dating-apps-fiction.html?smid=url-share" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">When the Novel Swiped Right</a> doesn't mention a single romance novel, of course. But don't worry. We've got you. Sarah wrote about <a href="about:blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tech in romance back in 2019</a> in the Washington Post.</p><p>We are very excited about Ted Lasso season 3, which premiers on March 15, 2023. This is a very nice little teaser <a href="https://youtu.be/5m14CQFtNi8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">is a masterclass in character work</a>, but <a href="https://youtu.be/IR9yjn7Lkdg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here’s the trailer</a>.</p><p>Also in the New York Times, this creepy article about interviewing <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/16/technology/bing-chatbot-transcript.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Microsoft Bing AI</a>. Maybe that thing has love on the brain because <a href="https://daily.jstor.org/will-reading-romance-novels-make-artificial-intelligence-more-human/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Microsoft fed the AI a bunch of romance novels at some point.</a> Seems legit. But then this New Yorker article came out and said that <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-of-technology/chatgpt-is-a-blurry-jpeg-of-the-web" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ChatGPT is just like a blurry jpeg</a>, so everyone calm down.</p><p><a href="https://www.stylight.com/Magazine/Lifestyle/Love-First-Swipe-Evolution-Online-Dating/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Match.com was invented in 1995</a>, but it was <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2018/12/tinder-changed-dating/578698/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the invention of the dating app a decade ago in 2013</a> that really changed the game. And if you’re famous, you can <a href="https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/pictures/stars-whove-used-the-raya-dating-app-channing-tatum-more/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">get on Raya.</a></p><p><a href="https://www.etonline.com/a-breakdown-of-kevin-costners-alleged-yellowstone-drama-behind-the-scenes-exclusive-199626" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kevin Costner is relevant again</a>! Everyone, time to reread <a href="https://amzn.to/3IZeM6W" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Perfect.</a></p><p>The <a href="https://youtu.be/sd9F2uNkLPU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">pager situation</a> was wild, but <a href="https://youtu.be/mWiKlij_D90" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sky Pager</a> is a truly great song by A Tribe Called Quest, off of <a href="https://www.theringer.com/2021/9/24/22690923/low-end-theory-anniversary-bob-power-tribe-called-quest" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Low End Theory</a>, one of Jen’s all time favorite albums. Poet Hanif Abdurraqib has written an entire book about A Tribe Called Quest called <a href="https://amzn.to/3IDWYwS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Go Ahead in the Rain</a> for the fans out there.</p><p>Watch this cute video about <a href="https://twitter.com/Brieyonce/status/1630051041524760576?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the guy who built a house for the frog living on his fence. </a>And <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/16/opinion/sunday/how-cats-evolved-to-win-the-internet.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">when it comes to the internet</a>, <a href="https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20150918-how-did-cats-win-the-internet" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">cats rule</a> and dogs drool.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It feels like you can’t turn around these days without stumbling into a story that’s a little unsettling about technology and how we’re all living our lives in this post (sort of) pandemic world. Between Twitter dramz, TikTok explosions and the rise of AI, it’s a lot. So, it’s probably to be expected that we are talking about how technology is impacting romance novels. We’re talking about texting, about FaceTime, about podcasting, and yes…even about robots. If you can use it to fall in love, there’s a romance using it…and we’re recommending a few we really enjoyed. </p><p>You can still get tickets to <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/word-presents-fated-mates-live-show-at-the-william-vale-tickets-529720467177" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates Live!</a> Join us on March 24 in New York City with Tessa Bailey, Andie J. Christopher, Mila Finelli, Adriana Herrera, and Joanna Shupe! Amazing stories will be told, many laughs will be had, terrific books will be on sale, and there will be a bar! <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/word-presents-fated-mates-live-show-at-the-william-vale-tickets-529720467177" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Get tickets now</a>!</p><p>Our first read along of 2023 (soon! we promise!) is Tracy MacNish’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3imUjP3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Stealing Midnight</em></a>—we’ve heard the calls from our gothic romance readers and we’re delivering with this truly bananas story, in which the hero is dug out of a grave and delivered, barely alive, to the heroine. Get ready. You can find <em>Stealing Midnight</em> (for $1.99!) at <a href="https://amzn.to/3imUjP3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/stealing-midnight-tracy-macnish/1100324522" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/stealing-midnight-4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/stealing-midnight/id411519173" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>.</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p>This New York Times article called <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/10/books/review/dating-apps-fiction.html?smid=url-share" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">When the Novel Swiped Right</a> doesn't mention a single romance novel, of course. But don't worry. We've got you. Sarah wrote about <a href="about:blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tech in romance back in 2019</a> in the Washington Post.</p><p>We are very excited about Ted Lasso season 3, which premiers on March 15, 2023. This is a very nice little teaser <a href="https://youtu.be/5m14CQFtNi8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">is a masterclass in character work</a>, but <a href="https://youtu.be/IR9yjn7Lkdg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here’s the trailer</a>.</p><p>Also in the New York Times, this creepy article about interviewing <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/16/technology/bing-chatbot-transcript.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Microsoft Bing AI</a>. Maybe that thing has love on the brain because <a href="https://daily.jstor.org/will-reading-romance-novels-make-artificial-intelligence-more-human/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Microsoft fed the AI a bunch of romance novels at some point.</a> Seems legit. But then this New Yorker article came out and said that <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-of-technology/chatgpt-is-a-blurry-jpeg-of-the-web" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ChatGPT is just like a blurry jpeg</a>, so everyone calm down.</p><p><a href="https://www.stylight.com/Magazine/Lifestyle/Love-First-Swipe-Evolution-Online-Dating/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Match.com was invented in 1995</a>, but it was <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2018/12/tinder-changed-dating/578698/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the invention of the dating app a decade ago in 2013</a> that really changed the game. And if you’re famous, you can <a href="https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/pictures/stars-whove-used-the-raya-dating-app-channing-tatum-more/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">get on Raya.</a></p><p><a href="https://www.etonline.com/a-breakdown-of-kevin-costners-alleged-yellowstone-drama-behind-the-scenes-exclusive-199626" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kevin Costner is relevant again</a>! Everyone, time to reread <a href="https://amzn.to/3IZeM6W" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Perfect.</a></p><p>The <a href="https://youtu.be/sd9F2uNkLPU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">pager situation</a> was wild, but <a href="https://youtu.be/mWiKlij_D90" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sky Pager</a> is a truly great song by A Tribe Called Quest, off of <a href="https://www.theringer.com/2021/9/24/22690923/low-end-theory-anniversary-bob-power-tribe-called-quest" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Low End Theory</a>, one of Jen’s all time favorite albums. Poet Hanif Abdurraqib has written an entire book about A Tribe Called Quest called <a href="https://amzn.to/3IDWYwS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Go Ahead in the Rain</a> for the fans out there.</p><p>Watch this cute video about <a href="https://twitter.com/Brieyonce/status/1630051041524760576?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the guy who built a house for the frog living on his fence. </a>And <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/16/opinion/sunday/how-cats-evolved-to-win-the-internet.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">when it comes to the internet</a>, <a href="https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20150918-how-did-cats-win-the-internet" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">cats rule</a> and dogs drool.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/2/27/s0524-technology-in-romance-interstitial]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:63fd3d2265305814f34d09c8</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2023 05:48:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/03449b6b-2710-4a16-8ec0-a275358a20f6/fated-mates-tech-romance.mp3" length="58893976" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:00:38</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>28</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>28</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>It feels like you can’t turn around these days without stumbling into a story that’s a little unsettling about technology and how we’re all living our lives in this post (sort of) pandemic world. Between Twitter dramz, TikTok explosions and the rise of AI, it’s a lot. So, it’s probably to be expected that we are talking about how technology is impacting romance novels. We’re talking about texting, about FaceTime, about podcasting, and yes…even about robots. If you can use it to fall in love, there’s a romance using it…and we’re recommending a few we really enjoyed.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-03449b6b-2710-4a16-8ec0-a275358a20f6.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S05.23: Books We Wish We Could Read Again for the First Time</title><itunes:title>Books We Wish We Could Read Again for the First Time</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Every once in a while, we decide we’re going to do an episode about books we just really really really like. Books we want you to really really really like. Is that episode usually in February? Does it coincide with Sarah’s book deadline? Don’t worry about it. This one is for the bantr girlies. We’re talking about books we loved so much on the first read that we wish we could reread them again for the first time. Please let us know if you try reading any of them for the first time…and when you do, tell us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a>. Or <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, where Eric is making fun new friends.</p><h2><strong>Notes</strong></h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The ReadsRomance family loves Toronto and we where there one year when it was so cold the <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1007240917680644097?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the falls were kind of frozen</a>? Science! Speaking of the Great Lakes, <a href="https://a-z-animals.com/blog/how-big-is-lake-michigan-5-amazing-lake-michigan-facts/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lake Michigan is really big</a>, and if you’re around in Milwaukee in the summer, you definitely want to check out <a href="https://www.summerfest.com/lineup/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">SummerFest</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Do you say <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/firefly-lightning-bug-english-language-map-2018-7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lightning bug or firefly</a>? This is really fun <a href="http://www.tekstlab.uio.no/cambridge_survey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">dialect quiz</a> if you’ve never taken it before.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Jen reallllllly wants to go see <a href="https://www.metmuseum.org/exhibitions/gods-divinity-maya-art" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this exhibit about the Mayans</a> at the Metropolitan Museum of Art, especially since <a href="https://www.getty.edu/art/exhibitions/maya_codex/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">she missed this one about the Mayan Codex at The Getty</a> Museum in Los Angeles.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>If you are ever at the Art Institute, you can check out <a href="https://www.artic.edu/artworks/6565/american-gothic" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">American Gothic</a>, <a href="https://www.artic.edu/artworks/111628/nighthawks" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nighthawks</a>, and <a href="https://www.artic.edu/artworks/117266/nightlife" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nightlife</a> by Archibald Motley—all in one room!</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>I don’t know, invest in <a href="https://www.wealthmanagement.com/alternative-investments/art-and-art-funds-alternative-investments" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">an art fund</a>, I guess.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Should we plan a Fated Mates outing to <a href="https://www.museumofsex.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Museum of Sex</a>?</li></ol><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/2/21/s0523-books-we-wish-we-could-read-again-for-the-first-time </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every once in a while, we decide we’re going to do an episode about books we just really really really like. Books we want you to really really really like. Is that episode usually in February? Does it coincide with Sarah’s book deadline? Don’t worry about it. This one is for the bantr girlies. We’re talking about books we loved so much on the first read that we wish we could reread them again for the first time. Please let us know if you try reading any of them for the first time…and when you do, tell us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a>. Or <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, where Eric is making fun new friends.</p><h2><strong>Notes</strong></h2><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The ReadsRomance family loves Toronto and we where there one year when it was so cold the <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1007240917680644097?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the falls were kind of frozen</a>? Science! Speaking of the Great Lakes, <a href="https://a-z-animals.com/blog/how-big-is-lake-michigan-5-amazing-lake-michigan-facts/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lake Michigan is really big</a>, and if you’re around in Milwaukee in the summer, you definitely want to check out <a href="https://www.summerfest.com/lineup/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">SummerFest</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Do you say <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/firefly-lightning-bug-english-language-map-2018-7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lightning bug or firefly</a>? This is really fun <a href="http://www.tekstlab.uio.no/cambridge_survey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">dialect quiz</a> if you’ve never taken it before.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Jen reallllllly wants to go see <a href="https://www.metmuseum.org/exhibitions/gods-divinity-maya-art" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this exhibit about the Mayans</a> at the Metropolitan Museum of Art, especially since <a href="https://www.getty.edu/art/exhibitions/maya_codex/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">she missed this one about the Mayan Codex at The Getty</a> Museum in Los Angeles.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>If you are ever at the Art Institute, you can check out <a href="https://www.artic.edu/artworks/6565/american-gothic" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">American Gothic</a>, <a href="https://www.artic.edu/artworks/111628/nighthawks" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nighthawks</a>, and <a href="https://www.artic.edu/artworks/117266/nightlife" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nightlife</a> by Archibald Motley—all in one room!</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>I don’t know, invest in <a href="https://www.wealthmanagement.com/alternative-investments/art-and-art-funds-alternative-investments" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">an art fund</a>, I guess.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Should we plan a Fated Mates outing to <a href="https://www.museumofsex.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Museum of Sex</a>?</li></ol><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/2/21/s0523-books-we-wish-we-could-read-again-for-the-first-time </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/2/21/s0523-books-we-wish-we-could-read-again-for-the-first-time]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:63f510339c4a9405625450aa</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2023 18:40:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/caa57662-fd93-4787-982c-2ccf6de6ae1a/fated-mates-books-we-wish-we-could-read-again-for-the-first-time.mp3" length="71609176" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:09:18</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>27</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>27</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Every once in a while, we decide we’re going to do an episode about books we just really really really like. Books we want you to really really really like. Is that episode usually in February? Does it coincide with Sarah’s book deadline? Don’t worry about it. This one is for the bantr girlies. We’re talking about books we loved so much on the first read that we wish we could reread them again for the first time. Please let us know if you try reading any of them for the first time…and when you do, tell us on Instagram and Twitter. Or Tumblr, where Eric is making fun new friends.</itunes:summary></item><item><title>S05.22: Trailblazer K.J. Charles</title><itunes:title>Trailblazer K.J. Charles</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Today, we’re welcoming KJ Charles to Fated Mates for our next Trailblazer episode! Known for her work helping to bring queer historical romance to the modern genre, KJ joins us to discuss historical romance, how it remains relevant in the modern world, her work centering queer characters and communities in romance, and the start of her romance career as an editor of Mills &amp; Boon medical romances.  We also talk about the arc of her career through early small press publishing, indie publishing, and now, as a traditionally published author. </p><p>We hope you enjoy this conversation as much as we did, and we are so grateful to KJ Charles for joining us.</p><p>Thanks to Kylie Scott, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3K82REI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>End of Story</em></a>,  and Lumi Labs, creators of Microdose Gummies<em>,</em> for sponsoring the episode. Visit <a href="https://amzn.to/3K82REI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">microdose.com</a> and use the code FATEDMATES for 30% off and free shipping on your first order.</p><p><strong>Notes</strong></p><ul><li>K.J. Charles is a RITA nominated author of over 25 historical romance novels. You can preorder her upcoming novel, <em>The Secret Lives of Country Gentlemen</em>, which will be released on March 7, 2023. KJ worked as an editor at Mills and Boon, and <a href="https://kjcharleswriter.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">her blog is an excellent source for romance readers and writers.</a></li><li>If you're looking for <a href="https://twitter.com/decoy__ocelot/status/1123548559708762112?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the "romance with a body count" infographics</a>, click here.</li><li><strong>Authors mentioned:</strong> Mills &amp; Boon author <a href="https://www.harlequin.com/shop/authors/23244_alison-roberts.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alison Roberts</a>, Mills &amp; Boon author <a href="https://www.harlequin.com/shop/authors/24763_marion-lennox.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Marion Lennox</a>, author <a href="http://www.jordanlhawk.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jordan L. Hawk</a>, author <a href="https://quicunquevult.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alexis Hall</a>, author <a href="https://taliahibbert.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Talia Hibbert</a>, author <a href="https://www.maypetersonbooks.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">May Peterson</a>, author <a href="https://jackielaubooks.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jackie Lau</a>, author <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/4/23/s0432-ee-ottoman-a-trailblazer-episode" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">EE Ottoman</a>, author <a href="https://www.pennyaimes.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Penny Aimes</a>, author <a href="https://krisripper.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kris Ripper</a>, author <a href="https://theresebeharrie.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Therese Beharrie</a>, author <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/3/15/s0426-jeannie-lin-a-trailblazer-episode" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jeannie Lin</a>, editor <a href="https://kjcharleswriter.com/2016/02/29/rag-and-bone-the-graphic-novel/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Anne Scott</a>.</li><li>Don’t miss our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/12/19/s0514-band-sinister-by-kj-charles" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Band Sinister episode</a> from last December.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/2/14/s0522-trailblazer-kj-charles </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today, we’re welcoming KJ Charles to Fated Mates for our next Trailblazer episode! Known for her work helping to bring queer historical romance to the modern genre, KJ joins us to discuss historical romance, how it remains relevant in the modern world, her work centering queer characters and communities in romance, and the start of her romance career as an editor of Mills &amp; Boon medical romances.  We also talk about the arc of her career through early small press publishing, indie publishing, and now, as a traditionally published author. </p><p>We hope you enjoy this conversation as much as we did, and we are so grateful to KJ Charles for joining us.</p><p>Thanks to Kylie Scott, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3K82REI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>End of Story</em></a>,  and Lumi Labs, creators of Microdose Gummies<em>,</em> for sponsoring the episode. Visit <a href="https://amzn.to/3K82REI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">microdose.com</a> and use the code FATEDMATES for 30% off and free shipping on your first order.</p><p><strong>Notes</strong></p><ul><li>K.J. Charles is a RITA nominated author of over 25 historical romance novels. You can preorder her upcoming novel, <em>The Secret Lives of Country Gentlemen</em>, which will be released on March 7, 2023. KJ worked as an editor at Mills and Boon, and <a href="https://kjcharleswriter.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">her blog is an excellent source for romance readers and writers.</a></li><li>If you're looking for <a href="https://twitter.com/decoy__ocelot/status/1123548559708762112?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the "romance with a body count" infographics</a>, click here.</li><li><strong>Authors mentioned:</strong> Mills &amp; Boon author <a href="https://www.harlequin.com/shop/authors/23244_alison-roberts.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alison Roberts</a>, Mills &amp; Boon author <a href="https://www.harlequin.com/shop/authors/24763_marion-lennox.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Marion Lennox</a>, author <a href="http://www.jordanlhawk.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jordan L. Hawk</a>, author <a href="https://quicunquevult.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alexis Hall</a>, author <a href="https://taliahibbert.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Talia Hibbert</a>, author <a href="https://www.maypetersonbooks.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">May Peterson</a>, author <a href="https://jackielaubooks.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jackie Lau</a>, author <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/4/23/s0432-ee-ottoman-a-trailblazer-episode" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">EE Ottoman</a>, author <a href="https://www.pennyaimes.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Penny Aimes</a>, author <a href="https://krisripper.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kris Ripper</a>, author <a href="https://theresebeharrie.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Therese Beharrie</a>, author <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/3/15/s0426-jeannie-lin-a-trailblazer-episode" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jeannie Lin</a>, editor <a href="https://kjcharleswriter.com/2016/02/29/rag-and-bone-the-graphic-novel/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Anne Scott</a>.</li><li>Don’t miss our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/12/19/s0514-band-sinister-by-kj-charles" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Band Sinister episode</a> from last December.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/2/14/s0522-trailblazer-kj-charles </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/2/14/s0522-trailblazer-kj-charles]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:63ebf6016f46137cb98c800a</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/e9c3dd21-1d70-4058-9e95-e8a66210e858/red-trailblazers.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2023 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/ee43f71e-17fd-461d-8f09-7b1d3b5e7fa7/fated-mates-trailblazer-kj-charles.mp3" length="102062870" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:41:53</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>26</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>26</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Today, we’re welcoming KJ Charles to Fated Mates for our next Trailblazer episode! Known for her work helping to bring queer historical romance to the modern genre, KJ joins us to discuss historical romance, how it remains relevant in the modern world, her work centering queer characters and communities in romance, and the start of her romance career as an editor of Mills &amp; Boon medical romances.  We also talk about the arc of her career through early small press publishing, indie publishing, and now, as a traditionally published author. 

We hope you enjoy this conversation as much as we did, and we are so grateful to KJ Charles for joining us.</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/e1f93344-307b-4325-b3e5-57fc49fe034e/index.html" type="text/html"/><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-ee43f71e-17fd-461d-8f09-7b1d3b5e7fa7.json" type="application/json+chapters"/><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="video/youtube" title="S05.22: K.J. Charles: Trailblazer"><podcast:source uri="https://youtu.be/BiTuxp9vZWA"/></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>Fated Mates Live!</title><itunes:title>Fated Mates Live!</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">It’s happening LIVE, in New York City! Join Jen, Sarah, and an absolutely fire lineup of special guests for a Fated Mates LIVE recording, in person, in Brooklyn. Time to book tickets, flights, and make plans to spend the weekend in NYC with your romance loving friends!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The recording will take place Friday, March 24th from 7-9pm at the William Vale Hotel in Williamsburg, Brooklyn! A live episode extravaganza, the whole Fated Mates crew will be on hand for an episode with book recs, chats with some of our favorite people!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/word-presents-fated-mates-live-show-at-the-william-vale-tickets-529720467177">Click here for tickets</a>. Tickets are $60 and include a $10 credit from WORD Brooklyn, to be used at the pop up romance bookshop at the event. There will be a cash bar and lots of time to hang with other Magnificent Firebirds! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you are interested in staying the weekend at the William Vale, there is a small block of rooms availalbe. <a href="https://be.synxis.com/?Chain=22704&amp;Hotel=79629&amp;adult=1&amp;arrive=2023-03-24&amp;child=0&amp;depart=2023-03-26&amp;group=4358599">You must use this link</a> for 20% off the regular king size room rate.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">It’s happening LIVE, in New York City! Join Jen, Sarah, and an absolutely fire lineup of special guests for a Fated Mates LIVE recording, in person, in Brooklyn. Time to book tickets, flights, and make plans to spend the weekend in NYC with your romance loving friends!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The recording will take place Friday, March 24th from 7-9pm at the William Vale Hotel in Williamsburg, Brooklyn! A live episode extravaganza, the whole Fated Mates crew will be on hand for an episode with book recs, chats with some of our favorite people!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/word-presents-fated-mates-live-show-at-the-william-vale-tickets-529720467177">Click here for tickets</a>. Tickets are $60 and include a $10 credit from WORD Brooklyn, to be used at the pop up romance bookshop at the event. There will be a cash bar and lots of time to hang with other Magnificent Firebirds! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you are interested in staying the weekend at the William Vale, there is a small block of rooms availalbe. <a href="https://be.synxis.com/?Chain=22704&amp;Hotel=79629&amp;adult=1&amp;arrive=2023-03-24&amp;child=0&amp;depart=2023-03-26&amp;group=4358599">You must use this link</a> for 20% off the regular king size room rate.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/2/7/fated-mates-live]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:63e30d3fa20cf50ecca07c7f</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/747ed5df-d30e-4513-9c7b-b7b8082f4365/fm-live-square.jpeg"/><pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2023 18:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/640d9fa4-f153-44ba-bc30-1cf640e5446d/fated-mates-live.mp3" length="5726563" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>05:28</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>25</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>25</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>It’s happening LIVE, in New York City! Join Jen, Sarah, and an absolutely fire lineup of special guests for a Fated Mates LIVE recording, in person, in Brooklyn. Time to book tickets, flights, and make plans to spend the weekend in NYC with your romance loving friends!

The recording will take place Friday, March 24th from 7-9pm at the William Vale Hotel in Williamsburg, Brooklyn! A live episode extravaganza, the whole Fated Mates crew will be on hand for an episode with book recs, chats with some of our favorite people!</itunes:summary></item><item><title>S05.21:  That&apos;s So (Derek) Craven</title><itunes:title>That&apos;s So (Derek) Craven</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It’s <a href="http://fatedmates.net/derek-craven-day" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Derek Craven Day 2023</a>—empirically the best romance holiday of February—and we’re celebrating in traditional fashion by talking about why there are two types of Lisa Kleypas readers: The ones who think Derek Craven is the best hero, and the ones who are wrong. </p><p>If you’ve been with us for any length of time at all, you know we are mildly obsessed with Lisa Kleypas’s heroes, her writing, the way she writes objects into her books as talismans of emotion, and the way she injects excellent romance directly into our veins every single time. </p><p>This year, to celebrate this most high holy of romance days, we asked all of you to help us by filling up a Google spreadsheet with things other Kleypas heroes do in their books…because while St. Vincent and Winterborne will never get a holiday all to themselves, they’re pretty great dudes. Enjoy, friends. It’s -11 degrees on the East Coast, so we give you permission to hang out in bed all day and read a book by Lisa Kleypas. </p><p>Our first read along of 2023 (in February) is Tracy MacNish’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3imUjP3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Stealing Midnight</em></a>—we’ve heard the calls from our gothic romance readers and we’re delivering with this truly bananas story, in which the hero is dug out of a grave and delivered, barely alive, to the heroine. Get ready. You can find <em>Stealing Midnight</em> (for $1.99!) at <a href="https://amzn.to/3imUjP3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/stealing-midnight-tracy-macnish/1100324522" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/stealing-midnight-4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/stealing-midnight/id411519173" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s <a href="http://fatedmates.net/derek-craven-day" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Derek Craven Day 2023</a>—empirically the best romance holiday of February—and we’re celebrating in traditional fashion by talking about why there are two types of Lisa Kleypas readers: The ones who think Derek Craven is the best hero, and the ones who are wrong. </p><p>If you’ve been with us for any length of time at all, you know we are mildly obsessed with Lisa Kleypas’s heroes, her writing, the way she writes objects into her books as talismans of emotion, and the way she injects excellent romance directly into our veins every single time. </p><p>This year, to celebrate this most high holy of romance days, we asked all of you to help us by filling up a Google spreadsheet with things other Kleypas heroes do in their books…because while St. Vincent and Winterborne will never get a holiday all to themselves, they’re pretty great dudes. Enjoy, friends. It’s -11 degrees on the East Coast, so we give you permission to hang out in bed all day and read a book by Lisa Kleypas. </p><p>Our first read along of 2023 (in February) is Tracy MacNish’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3imUjP3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Stealing Midnight</em></a>—we’ve heard the calls from our gothic romance readers and we’re delivering with this truly bananas story, in which the hero is dug out of a grave and delivered, barely alive, to the heroine. Get ready. You can find <em>Stealing Midnight</em> (for $1.99!) at <a href="https://amzn.to/3imUjP3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/stealing-midnight-tracy-macnish/1100324522" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/stealing-midnight-4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/stealing-midnight/id411519173" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/2/3/s0521-thats-so-derek-craven]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:63dd7ce1b48cd640c89d1aac</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/108c536e-d07e-4f45-aa59-a1d9bb374a4f/thatsoraven.jpg"/><pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2023 02:53:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/6b13b91c-1b25-414b-947f-eef55db0ba06/fated-mates-derek-craven-day-3-reva.mp3" length="51724591" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>47:39</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>24</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>24</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>It’s Derek Craven Day 2023—empirically the best romance holiday of February—and we’re celebrating in traditional fashion by talking about why there are two types of Lisa Kleypas readers: The ones who think Derek Craven is the best hero, and the ones who are wrong. 

If you’ve been with us for any length of time at all, you know we are mildly obsessed with Lisa Kleypas’s heroes, her writing, the way she writes objects into her books as talismans of emotion, and the way she injects excellent romance directly into our veins every single time. 

This year, to celebrate this most high holy of romance days, we asked all of you to help us by filling up a Google spreadsheet with things other Kleypas heroes do in their books…because while St. Vincent and Winterborne will never get a holiday all to themselves, they’re pretty great dudes. Enjoy, friends. It’s -11 degrees on the East Coast, so we give you permission to hang out in bed all day and read a book by Lisa Kleypas.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-6b13b91c-1b25-414b-947f-eef55db0ba06.json" type="application/json+chapters"/><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="video/youtube" title="S05.21:  That&apos;s So (Derek) Craven"><podcast:source uri="https://youtu.be/C36OLazcM6o"/></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>S05.20: Shifter Romance: Manimals!</title><itunes:title>Shifter Romance: Manimals!</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>You’ve been asking for a shifter interstitial, and we like to give you what you want. Today, we’re talking manimals! We go back to the beginning and touch on all the shifter/Lycae business that we dealt with in Season 1, and then we talk about all the ways werewolves have evolved into were-other things and then into DNA-splicing experiments. The recs get wild, the plots get weird, and there’s a lot happening! </p><p>Our next episode will drop Saturday in honor of the greatest of holidays, Derek Craven Day! To celebrate, we recommend rereading Lisa Kleypas’s Dreaming of You and then enjoying a full hour of our banter about our proudest achievement. In observance of DCD23, we will not be releasing a Wednesday episode next week, but we will be with you all the week after!</p><p>Our first read along of 2023 (in February) is Tracy MacNish’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3imUjP3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Stealing Midnight</em></a>—we’ve heard the calls from our gothic romance readers and we’re delivering with this truly bananas story, in which the hero is dug out of a grave and delivered, barely alive, to the heroine. Get ready. You can find <em>Stealing Midnight</em> (for $1.99!) at <a href="https://amzn.to/3imUjP3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/stealing-midnight-tracy-macnish/1100324522" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/stealing-midnight-4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/stealing-midnight/id411519173" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Today’s show is apparently brought to you by 1983. The song <a href="https://youtu.be/8OyRL48ADjQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">She’s a Maniac</a> was on the Flashback soundtrack, and <a href="https://youtu.be/pDygeQx0w-Q" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Manimal</a> was a television show. </li><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/season-one-kresley-cole" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">We talked so much about shifters in Season One</a>, you just have to go back. I’m sorry. </li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1092522175184232453?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Derek Craven Day</a> is coming this Saturday. Please celebrate responsibly.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/1/31/s0520-shifter-romance-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You’ve been asking for a shifter interstitial, and we like to give you what you want. Today, we’re talking manimals! We go back to the beginning and touch on all the shifter/Lycae business that we dealt with in Season 1, and then we talk about all the ways werewolves have evolved into were-other things and then into DNA-splicing experiments. The recs get wild, the plots get weird, and there’s a lot happening! </p><p>Our next episode will drop Saturday in honor of the greatest of holidays, Derek Craven Day! To celebrate, we recommend rereading Lisa Kleypas’s Dreaming of You and then enjoying a full hour of our banter about our proudest achievement. In observance of DCD23, we will not be releasing a Wednesday episode next week, but we will be with you all the week after!</p><p>Our first read along of 2023 (in February) is Tracy MacNish’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3imUjP3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Stealing Midnight</em></a>—we’ve heard the calls from our gothic romance readers and we’re delivering with this truly bananas story, in which the hero is dug out of a grave and delivered, barely alive, to the heroine. Get ready. You can find <em>Stealing Midnight</em> (for $1.99!) at <a href="https://amzn.to/3imUjP3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/stealing-midnight-tracy-macnish/1100324522" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/stealing-midnight-4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/stealing-midnight/id411519173" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Today’s show is apparently brought to you by 1983. The song <a href="https://youtu.be/8OyRL48ADjQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">She’s a Maniac</a> was on the Flashback soundtrack, and <a href="https://youtu.be/pDygeQx0w-Q" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Manimal</a> was a television show. </li><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/season-one-kresley-cole" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">We talked so much about shifters in Season One</a>, you just have to go back. I’m sorry. </li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1092522175184232453?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Derek Craven Day</a> is coming this Saturday. Please celebrate responsibly.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/1/31/s0520-shifter-romance-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/1/31/s0520-shifter-romance-interstitial]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:63d9549ce20997147efb1515</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2023 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/5e7ed598-5734-4b27-a418-a983ef99e2f1/fated-mates-shifters.mp3" length="71385618" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:09:50</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>23</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>23</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>You’ve been asking for a shifter interstitial, and we like to give you what you want. Today, we’re talking manimals! We go back to the beginning and touch on all the shifter/Lycae business that we dealt with in Season 1, and then we talk about all the ways werewolves have evolved into were-other things and then into DNA-splicing experiments. The recs get wild, the plots get weird, and there’s a lot happening!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-5e7ed598-5734-4b27-a418-a983ef99e2f1.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S05.19: Homecoming Romance with Kate Clayborn</title><itunes:title>Homecoming Romance with Kate Clayborn</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Seven-timer Kate Clayborn returns to the Fated Mates studio (lol, jk there is no studio) to talk about about going home again in romance and to celebrate the launch of her new book,&nbsp;<em>Georgie All Along</em>, which you can get <em>this week</em> wherever books are sold! We talk about all the ins and outs of homecoming romances, what sends characters back to the beginning, what readers expect from these books, why they hit so hard and in so many ways, and how this trope intersects with small town romance. All that, and Sarah’s brought an X,Y chart to class. </p><p>Next week, we have an interstitial, and then it’s Derek Craven Day 2023! Our first read along of 2023 (in February) is Tracy MacNish’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3imUjP3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Stealing Midnight</em></a>—we’ve heard the calls from our gothic romance readers and we’re delivering with this truly bananas story, in which the hero is dug out of a grave and delivered, barely alive, to the heroine. Get ready. You can find <em>Stealing Midnight</em> (for $1.99!) at <a href="https://amzn.to/3imUjP3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/stealing-midnight-tracy-macnish/1100324522" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/stealing-midnight-4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/stealing-midnight/id411519173" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>.</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p>Welcome <a href="https://www.kateclayborn.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kate Clayborn</a>. Her newest release, <a href="https://amzn.to/3H7nsG2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Georgie, All Along</em></a> came out yesterday. She’s been on Fated Mates so many times because we love to talk to her about romance. You can <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/tag/guest+kate+clayborn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">listen to them all here</a>, but considering the time of year, might we recommend <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/1/31/s0324-derek-craven-day-reveals-that-were-going-through-some-things" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the 2021 Derek Craven Day episode?</a></p><p>In case you forgot what <a href="https://literarydevices.net/theme/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your English teacher told you about theme</a>.</p><p><a href="/s/Homecoming-Romance.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Here's Sarah's chart</a>, as promised. Also, you can learn about all about <a href="https://www.math.net/x-and-y-axis" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the X and Y axis.</a> And <a href="https://www.math.net/coordinates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Z axis</a>. And <a href="https://www.math.net/coefficient" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">coefficients</a>. So mathy this week!</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seven-timer Kate Clayborn returns to the Fated Mates studio (lol, jk there is no studio) to talk about about going home again in romance and to celebrate the launch of her new book,&nbsp;<em>Georgie All Along</em>, which you can get <em>this week</em> wherever books are sold! We talk about all the ins and outs of homecoming romances, what sends characters back to the beginning, what readers expect from these books, why they hit so hard and in so many ways, and how this trope intersects with small town romance. All that, and Sarah’s brought an X,Y chart to class. </p><p>Next week, we have an interstitial, and then it’s Derek Craven Day 2023! Our first read along of 2023 (in February) is Tracy MacNish’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3imUjP3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Stealing Midnight</em></a>—we’ve heard the calls from our gothic romance readers and we’re delivering with this truly bananas story, in which the hero is dug out of a grave and delivered, barely alive, to the heroine. Get ready. You can find <em>Stealing Midnight</em> (for $1.99!) at <a href="https://amzn.to/3imUjP3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/stealing-midnight-tracy-macnish/1100324522" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/stealing-midnight-4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/stealing-midnight/id411519173" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>.</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p>Welcome <a href="https://www.kateclayborn.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kate Clayborn</a>. Her newest release, <a href="https://amzn.to/3H7nsG2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Georgie, All Along</em></a> came out yesterday. She’s been on Fated Mates so many times because we love to talk to her about romance. You can <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/tag/guest+kate+clayborn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">listen to them all here</a>, but considering the time of year, might we recommend <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/1/31/s0324-derek-craven-day-reveals-that-were-going-through-some-things" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the 2021 Derek Craven Day episode?</a></p><p>In case you forgot what <a href="https://literarydevices.net/theme/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your English teacher told you about theme</a>.</p><p><a href="/s/Homecoming-Romance.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Here's Sarah's chart</a>, as promised. Also, you can learn about all about <a href="https://www.math.net/x-and-y-axis" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the X and Y axis.</a> And <a href="https://www.math.net/coordinates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Z axis</a>. And <a href="https://www.math.net/coefficient" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">coefficients</a>. So mathy this week!</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/1/23/s0519-kate-clayborn-returns-georgie-all-along]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:63cf2b123f007143dcfd6134</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2023 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/f8020fe7-25a8-4f2e-bfab-870dbe39ae4a/fated-mates-homecoming.mp3" length="89769244" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:25:59</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>22</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>22</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Seven-timer Kate Clayborn returns to the Fated Mates studio (lol, jk there is no studio) to talk about about going home again in romance and to celebrate the launch of her new book, Georgie All Along, which you can get this week wherever books are sold! We talk about all the ins and outs of homecoming romances, what sends characters back to the beginning, what readers expect from these books, why they hit so hard and in so many ways, and how this trope intersects with small town romance. All that, and Sarah’s brought an X,Y chart to class.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-f8020fe7-25a8-4f2e-bfab-870dbe39ae4a.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S05.18: Harlequin Category Romance Interstitial: The Romance Industrial Complex</title><itunes:title>Harlequin Category Romance Interstitial: The Romance Industrial Complex</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We don’t talk enough about category romances, and that is a big mistake. This week, we’re changing that — discussing the power of the category romance, the skill it takes to write one well, and the love we have for the authors who are committed to this perfect morsel of the format. There are nuns and vikings, Italian billionaires, lady assassins and more! </p><p>Next week, we have a special guest, but our first read along of 2023 is Tracy MacNish’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3imUjP3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Stealing Midnight</em></a>—we’ve heard the calls from our gothic romance readers and we’re delivering with this truly bananas story, in which the hero is dug out of a grave and delivered, barely alive, to the heroine. Get ready. You can find <em>Stealing Midnight</em> (for $1.99!) at <a href="https://amzn.to/3imUjP3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/stealing-midnight-tracy-macnish/1100324522" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/stealing-midnight-4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/stealing-midnight/id411519173" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>.</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p>Harlequin has an entire explainer about the ins and outs of <a href="https://www.writeforharlequin.com/top-three-reasons-why-category-romances-are-so-satisfying/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">category romance.</a></p><p>The first romance Jen ever read was called <a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2017/11/throwback-review-pink-satin.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pink Satin</a>, from a long-since defunct category line called <a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/series/second-chance-at-love~14136.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Second Chance at Love.</a></p><p>You can support the workers in the <a href="https://twitter.com/hcpunion" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Harper Collins Union</a> by <a href="https://givebutter.com/HCPstrike" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">donating to the strike fund</a>, or <a href="https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdnCPzHMFs5bGjkV3hG7sekQYYrSVZGxha20hD1WMaWCvVlSQ/viewform" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sign the letter in support of the Union. </a></p><p>I couldn’t find the romance title generator, but I did find this <a href="https://www.sporcle.com/games/rockgolf/heartaches-by-the-number" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sporcle quiz for the most common words in Harlequin titles</a>—it’s only up to 2012, and someone needs to update this. The word billionaire is barely on it! </p><p><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/3057884" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Princess Routine by Tonya Wood (1985) was a favorite of both Jen and Caitlyn Crews</a>. And right now, Jen is freaking out a little that she can't find her copy of it!</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don’t talk enough about category romances, and that is a big mistake. This week, we’re changing that — discussing the power of the category romance, the skill it takes to write one well, and the love we have for the authors who are committed to this perfect morsel of the format. There are nuns and vikings, Italian billionaires, lady assassins and more! </p><p>Next week, we have a special guest, but our first read along of 2023 is Tracy MacNish’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3imUjP3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Stealing Midnight</em></a>—we’ve heard the calls from our gothic romance readers and we’re delivering with this truly bananas story, in which the hero is dug out of a grave and delivered, barely alive, to the heroine. Get ready. You can find <em>Stealing Midnight</em> (for $1.99!) at <a href="https://amzn.to/3imUjP3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/stealing-midnight-tracy-macnish/1100324522" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/stealing-midnight-4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/stealing-midnight/id411519173" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>.</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p>Harlequin has an entire explainer about the ins and outs of <a href="https://www.writeforharlequin.com/top-three-reasons-why-category-romances-are-so-satisfying/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">category romance.</a></p><p>The first romance Jen ever read was called <a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2017/11/throwback-review-pink-satin.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pink Satin</a>, from a long-since defunct category line called <a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/series/second-chance-at-love~14136.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Second Chance at Love.</a></p><p>You can support the workers in the <a href="https://twitter.com/hcpunion" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Harper Collins Union</a> by <a href="https://givebutter.com/HCPstrike" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">donating to the strike fund</a>, or <a href="https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdnCPzHMFs5bGjkV3hG7sekQYYrSVZGxha20hD1WMaWCvVlSQ/viewform" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sign the letter in support of the Union. </a></p><p>I couldn’t find the romance title generator, but I did find this <a href="https://www.sporcle.com/games/rockgolf/heartaches-by-the-number" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sporcle quiz for the most common words in Harlequin titles</a>—it’s only up to 2012, and someone needs to update this. The word billionaire is barely on it! </p><p><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/3057884" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Princess Routine by Tonya Wood (1985) was a favorite of both Jen and Caitlyn Crews</a>. And right now, Jen is freaking out a little that she can't find her copy of it!</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/1/17/518-harlequin-category-romance-interstitialto]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:63c6f150a1458b62e04b8f04</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2023 02:50:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/c736650b-76b8-4878-bdca-98b1ab196848/fated-mates-category-romance.mp3" length="76239551" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:15:47</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>21</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>21</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We don’t talk enough about category romances, and that is a big mistake. This week, we’re changing that — discussing the power of the category romance, the skill it takes to write one well, and the love we have for the authors who are committed to this perfect morsel of the format. There are nuns and vikings, Italian billionaires, lady assassins and more!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-c736650b-76b8-4878-bdca-98b1ab196848.json" type="application/json+chapters"/><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="video/youtube" title="S05.18: Harlequin Category Romance Interstitial: The Romance Industrial Complex"><podcast:source uri="https://youtu.be/GJItIjYx5ic"/></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>S05.17: Catherine Coulter: Trailblazer</title><itunes:title>Trailblazer Catherine Coulter</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We’re thrilled to share our next Trailblazer episode this week—we had a great time talking with Catherine Coulter about her place in romance history as one of the earliest authors of the Signet Regency line—and the author who many believe revolutionized the Regency…by making them sexy. </p><p>She tells a million great stories here, and we talk about writing historical romance, about sex in romance, about the way she thinks about plot vs. story, about the way she’s evolved as a writer, and about revisiting her old books. All that, and Catherine has a <em>lot</em> to say about heroes. Thank you to Catherine Coulter for making the time for us.</p><p>Next week, we’re back with more interstitials, but our first read along of 2023 is Tracy MacNish’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3imUjP3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Stealing Midnight</em></a>—we’ve heard the calls from our gothic romance readers and we’re delivering with this truly bananas story, in which the hero is dug out of a grave and delivered, barely alive, to the heroine. Get ready. You can find <em>Stealing Midnight</em> (for $1.99!) at <a href="https://amzn.to/3imUjP3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/stealing-midnight-tracy-macnish/1100324522" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/stealing-midnight-4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/stealing-midnight/id411519173" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>.</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p><strong>People Mentioned: </strong>publisher <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/1986/04/01/obituaries/peter-heggie-is-dead-at-66-long-an-authors-guild-aide.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Peter Heggie</a>, editor <a href="https://www.npr.org/2023/01/03/1146641641/robert-gottlieb-caro-power-broker-turn-every-page-lizzie-gottlieb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Robert Gottlieb</a>, publisher <a href="https://www.d4eoliteraryagency.com/p/bob-diforio.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bob Diforio</a>, publisher <a href="https://www.csmonitor.com/1996/0425/042596.feat.community.2.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Phyllis Graham</a>, editor <a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/pages/avonbooks-editors" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">May Chen</a>, editor <a href="https://soundcloud.com/librarylovefest/editors-unedited-featuring-william-morrow-vice-president-executive-editor-david-highfill" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">David Highfill</a>, and marketing consultant <a href="https://www.tridentmediagroup.com/staff/nicole-robson/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nicole Robson</a> at Trident Media. </p><p><strong>Authors Mentioned: </strong>Georgette Heyer, Janet Dailey, LaVyrle Spencer, Linda Howard, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/11/1/s0508-trailblazer-iris-johansen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Iris Johansen</a>, Kay Hooper, Debbie Gordon and Joan Wolf</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We’re thrilled to share our next Trailblazer episode this week—we had a great time talking with Catherine Coulter about her place in romance history as one of the earliest authors of the Signet Regency line—and the author who many believe revolutionized the Regency…by making them sexy. </p><p>She tells a million great stories here, and we talk about writing historical romance, about sex in romance, about the way she thinks about plot vs. story, about the way she’s evolved as a writer, and about revisiting her old books. All that, and Catherine has a <em>lot</em> to say about heroes. Thank you to Catherine Coulter for making the time for us.</p><p>Next week, we’re back with more interstitials, but our first read along of 2023 is Tracy MacNish’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3imUjP3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Stealing Midnight</em></a>—we’ve heard the calls from our gothic romance readers and we’re delivering with this truly bananas story, in which the hero is dug out of a grave and delivered, barely alive, to the heroine. Get ready. You can find <em>Stealing Midnight</em> (for $1.99!) at <a href="https://amzn.to/3imUjP3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/stealing-midnight-tracy-macnish/1100324522" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/stealing-midnight-4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/stealing-midnight/id411519173" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>.</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p><strong>People Mentioned: </strong>publisher <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/1986/04/01/obituaries/peter-heggie-is-dead-at-66-long-an-authors-guild-aide.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Peter Heggie</a>, editor <a href="https://www.npr.org/2023/01/03/1146641641/robert-gottlieb-caro-power-broker-turn-every-page-lizzie-gottlieb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Robert Gottlieb</a>, publisher <a href="https://www.d4eoliteraryagency.com/p/bob-diforio.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bob Diforio</a>, publisher <a href="https://www.csmonitor.com/1996/0425/042596.feat.community.2.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Phyllis Graham</a>, editor <a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/pages/avonbooks-editors" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">May Chen</a>, editor <a href="https://soundcloud.com/librarylovefest/editors-unedited-featuring-william-morrow-vice-president-executive-editor-david-highfill" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">David Highfill</a>, and marketing consultant <a href="https://www.tridentmediagroup.com/staff/nicole-robson/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nicole Robson</a> at Trident Media. </p><p><strong>Authors Mentioned: </strong>Georgette Heyer, Janet Dailey, LaVyrle Spencer, Linda Howard, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/11/1/s0508-trailblazer-iris-johansen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Iris Johansen</a>, Kay Hooper, Debbie Gordon and Joan Wolf</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/1/9/0517-trailblazer-catherine-coulter]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:63bcaffaac117b6c826afe3b</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/a590e456-6bc3-4eeb-8979-39764361645c/red-trailblazers.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2023 03:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/2280fbc1-6c06-4b34-898c-66a4b607b656/fated-mates-trailblazer-catherine-coulter-reva.mp3" length="82959194" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:19:25</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>20</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>20</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We’re thrilled to share our next Trailblazer episode this week—we had a great time talking with Catherine Coulter about her place in romance history as one of the earliest authors of the Signet Regency line—and the author who many believe revolutionized the Regency…by making them sexy. 

She tells a million great stories here, and we talk about writing historical romance, about sex in romance, about the way she thinks about plot vs. story, about the way she’s evolved as a writer, and about revisiting her old books. All that, and Catherine has a lot to say about heroes. Thank you to Catherine Coulter for making the time for us.</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/c8453f25-4b69-49ef-86e8-8d2b651761b6/index.html" type="text/html"/><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-2280fbc1-6c06-4b34-898c-66a4b607b656.json" type="application/json+chapters"/><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="video/youtube" title="S05.17: Catherine Coulter: Trailblazer"><podcast:source uri="https://youtu.be/6fThtWBpGmQ"/></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>5.16: Snowed-In Romance</title><itunes:title>Snowed-In Romance</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Happy New Year, Magnificent Firebirds! Our first episode of 2023 leans into winter — we’re talking snowed-in romances! What makes snowed-in different than forced-proximity? Why is snow different from other situational nature stuff? Why are so many of these stories novellas? How do authors use snow as a plot device, a ticking clock, or a starting gun? All that, and a plea for more snowed-in romances without the holiday angle.</p><p>We’re gearing up for a year full of interstitials, more trailblazers and other fun stuff. We can’t wait for you to see what we have in store. Thank you, as always, for listening. If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your favorite podcasting app, we would be very grateful.</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><ul><li>Of course we've talked about <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/4/7/s0231-forced-proximity-interstitial-with-christina-lauren" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">forced proximity romance in general, most notably with Christina and Lauren back in Season 2</a>! But this time around, we're only talking about SNOWED IN. </li><li>That being said, snowed in is no joke. Our thoughts are with<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/29/nyregion/western-new-york-storm.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> the people of Buffalo, who experienced major blizzard conditions last week, including four feet of snow.</a> If you'd like to help, <a href="https://twitter.com/JColey716/status/1607757536572104707?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here are some suggestions,</a> but we've also heard good things about the organization<a href="https://friendsofnightpeople.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Friends of the Night People</a>, which helps unhoused people in Buffalo. </li><li>A look back at <a href="https://www.chicagotribune.com/weather/ct-groundhog-day-blizzard-10-year-anniversary-20210129-3jgbphdy7vb53moanfhlyqxt4y-htmlstory.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">that blizzard in Chicago</a>, which was <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Groundhog_Day_blizzard" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">on Groundhog's Day in 2011. </a></li><li>Don't miss our deep dive from Season 2 of <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/1/20/s0220-managed-by-kristen-callihan" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Managed</em> and <em>Fall</em> by Kristen Callihan</a>.</li><li>If you're in the DC Metro area, you can see Sarah and Kate talking about <a href="https://amzn.to/3Q87pfe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Georgie, All Along</em></a> <a href="https://eastcitybookshop.com/events/21790" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">at East City Bookshop live or on zoom, Friday Jan 27 at 7pm.</a></li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/1/2/s0516-snowed-in-romance-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy New Year, Magnificent Firebirds! Our first episode of 2023 leans into winter — we’re talking snowed-in romances! What makes snowed-in different than forced-proximity? Why is snow different from other situational nature stuff? Why are so many of these stories novellas? How do authors use snow as a plot device, a ticking clock, or a starting gun? All that, and a plea for more snowed-in romances without the holiday angle.</p><p>We’re gearing up for a year full of interstitials, more trailblazers and other fun stuff. We can’t wait for you to see what we have in store. Thank you, as always, for listening. If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your favorite podcasting app, we would be very grateful.</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><ul><li>Of course we've talked about <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/4/7/s0231-forced-proximity-interstitial-with-christina-lauren" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">forced proximity romance in general, most notably with Christina and Lauren back in Season 2</a>! But this time around, we're only talking about SNOWED IN. </li><li>That being said, snowed in is no joke. Our thoughts are with<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/29/nyregion/western-new-york-storm.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> the people of Buffalo, who experienced major blizzard conditions last week, including four feet of snow.</a> If you'd like to help, <a href="https://twitter.com/JColey716/status/1607757536572104707?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here are some suggestions,</a> but we've also heard good things about the organization<a href="https://friendsofnightpeople.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Friends of the Night People</a>, which helps unhoused people in Buffalo. </li><li>A look back at <a href="https://www.chicagotribune.com/weather/ct-groundhog-day-blizzard-10-year-anniversary-20210129-3jgbphdy7vb53moanfhlyqxt4y-htmlstory.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">that blizzard in Chicago</a>, which was <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Groundhog_Day_blizzard" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">on Groundhog's Day in 2011. </a></li><li>Don't miss our deep dive from Season 2 of <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/1/20/s0220-managed-by-kristen-callihan" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Managed</em> and <em>Fall</em> by Kristen Callihan</a>.</li><li>If you're in the DC Metro area, you can see Sarah and Kate talking about <a href="https://amzn.to/3Q87pfe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Georgie, All Along</em></a> <a href="https://eastcitybookshop.com/events/21790" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">at East City Bookshop live or on zoom, Friday Jan 27 at 7pm.</a></li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/1/2/s0516-snowed-in-romance-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2023/1/2/s0516-snowed-in-romance-interstitial]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:63b2f5c6fe72cc3ddddfa2d6</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2023 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/51c0fec3-dbc8-46c4-88a4-bbb620f27be4/fated-mates-snowed-in-romance.mp3" length="70753586" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:06:35</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>19</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>19</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Happy New Year, Magnificent Firebirds! Our first episode of 2023 leans into winter — we’re talking snowed-in romances! What makes snowed-in different than forced-proximity? Why is snow different from other situational nature stuff? Why are so many of these stories novellas? How do authors use snow as a plot device, a ticking clock, or a starting gun? All that, and a plea for more snowed-in romances without the holiday angle.

We’re gearing up for a year full of interstitials, more trailblazers and other fun stuff. We can’t wait for you to see what we have in store. Thank you, as always, for listening. If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your favorite podcasting app, we would be very grateful.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-51c0fec3-dbc8-46c4-88a4-bbb620f27be4.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S05.15: Omegaversity: Class is Now in Session with Ali Hazelwood and Adriana Herrera</title><itunes:title>Omegaversity: Class is Now in Session with AH2</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>As is customary, we’re celebrating New Year’s Eve here on Fated Mates with some of our favorite people in a fully headphones-in episode! Pour yourself a drink and pull up a chair, because Omegaversity is in session with professors Ali Hazelwood and Adriana Herrera! </p><p>Jen and Sarah get a crash course in this wild end of the romance/fan fic pool. We’re talking about mating heat (!), knotting (!!), butt babies (!!!) and loads of body fluids (!!!!). Seriously, loads of them. When we say headphones in, we mean it. Enter at your own will, abandon all hope, and bring in 2023 right. </p><p>Check shownotes for omegaverse recommendations, and enjoy, firebirds!</p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening. If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your favorite podcasting app, we would be very grateful.</p><h2><strong>Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Welcome <a href="https://alihazelwood.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ali Hazelwood</a> and <a href="https://adrianaherreraromance.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adriana Herrera</a>, let's just call them AH2, shall we? </li><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/23/business/omegaverse-erotica-copyright.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The New York Times article about the Omegaverse</a>, which is where a lot of us named Jen and Sarah first learned about so much of it. You can also watch this terrific series of videoes from Lindsay Ellis explaining the Omegaverse lawsuits: <a href="https://youtu.be/zhWWcWtAUoY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Into the Omegaverse: How a Fanfic Trope landed in Federal Court</a> and <a href="https://youtu.be/K3v5wFMQRqs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Addison Cain's lawyer e-mailed me, and it only got worse from there</a>. Also, the video essay <a href="https://youtu.be/tBzXixUwCwg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Rise (and Rise) of the Omegaverse</a> by Rowan Ellis.</li><li>Ali recommends reading <a href="https://archiveofourown.org/works/403644/chapters/665489" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this quick Omegaverse primer.</a> Or this other list of <a href="https://ratherembarrassing.tumblr.com/post/637273975565795328/explain-please-1-battle-angel-alita-manga-gains/amp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">how the Omegaverse world</a>exploded. </li><li>You should read <a href="https://amzn.to/3IeXuCZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Song of Achilles by Madeline Miller</a>, which is a good example of how there are books out there telling the stories we want about the characters we love.</li></ul><br/><h2>For Your Consideration: A List of Recommendations of Omegaverse Fics from AH2</h2><ul><li>A quick reminder to please check all tags and CWs as you explore the Omegaverse!</li><li>Ali and Adriana both agree that a great starting point for Reylo ABO is&nbsp;<a href="https://archiveofourown.org/works/14925449/chapters/34576358" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Can't Turn Off What Turns Me On</a>&nbsp;by audreyii_fic. But there are tons of Reylo fics recommended by AH2. If you want ABO in the workplace + elevators, try&nbsp;<a href="https://archiveofourown.org/works/14592102/chapters/33723105" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gonna Get Myself Connected</a>&nbsp;by TourmalineGreen. If you want something sweet and fluffy try&nbsp;<a href="https://archiveofourown.org/works/17818517/chapters/42041354" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">(I Want to See You) As You Are Now</a>&nbsp;by walkingsaladshooter or&nbsp;<a href="https://archiveofourown.org/works/16943019/chapters/39813090" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your name (twine it with mine)</a>&nbsp;by lachesisgrimm (olga_theodora). For an enemies to lovers Reylo vibe, Ali recommends&nbsp;<a href="https://archiveofourown.org/works/16740346" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">like my heart longs for an ocean</a>&nbsp;by hi_raeth. He's the Omega in&nbsp;<a href="https://archiveofourown.org/works/15557310/chapters/36116058" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sharpen your teeth and sink into me</a>&nbsp;by Like_A_Dove. If you want your fic with a sidecar of knitting puns, try&nbsp;<a href="https://archiveofourown.org/works/15380136/chapters/35691879" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Knotting Shop</a>&nbsp;by crossingwinter. Some others AH2 agree on:&nbsp;<a href="https://archiveofourown.org/works/22194457" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Reclaimed</a>&nbsp;by Betts,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3YXKbfN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Juniper and Bergamot</a>&nbsp;by SaintHeretical, and&nbsp;<a href="https://archiveofourown.org/works/16971705/chapters/39888648" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Abash the Little Bird</a>&nbsp;by SecretReyloTrash.</li><li><a href="https://archiveofourown.org/works/18852685/chapters/44744572" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coveted</a>&nbsp;by OptimisticBeth is a crossover between Star Wars and Mercy Thompson.</li><li>If you have a lot of time on your hands, try the Reylo ABO&nbsp;<a href="https://archiveofourown.org/works/20496197/chapters/48639608" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">hereafter</a>&nbsp;by voicedimplosives. If you want lots of voyerism with your Reylo, check out&nbsp;<a href="https://archiveofourown.org/works/19761046/chapters/46776814" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">An Unexpected Vacation</a>&nbsp;by tigbit</li><li>If you're looking for ABO but vampires, try&nbsp;<a href="https://archiveofourown.org/works/21990052/chapters/52473757" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a little death (goes a long way)</a>&nbsp;by crossingwinter</li><li>Adriana recommends trying&nbsp;<a href="https://archiveofourown.org/users/giselleslash/pseuds/giselleslash" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">any Stucky fic by GiselleSlash</a>.</li><li>Ali recs&nbsp;<a href="https://archiveofourown.org/works/748486" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hello, Heartbreaker</a>&nbsp;by astoryaboutwar or&nbsp;<a href="https://archiveofourown.org/works/5369111" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Chase</a>&nbsp;by Tipsy_kitty. In this universe, everyone’s a werewolf and Ali says it's a great starting point for ABO, written for a fandom that has tons of amazing ABO fics. Another TeenWolf fic you might enjoy is</li><li>If you want to try some Sherlock fic (not with Lucy Liu, but Jen believes it must be out there!), check out&nbsp;<a href="https://archiveofourown.org/works/1264423" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Breath Between Us</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://archiveofourown.org/works/989923" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Breath Before Us</a>&nbsp;by fayfayfay.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/12/29/s0515-omegaversity </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As is customary, we’re celebrating New Year’s Eve here on Fated Mates with some of our favorite people in a fully headphones-in episode! Pour yourself a drink and pull up a chair, because Omegaversity is in session with professors Ali Hazelwood and Adriana Herrera! </p><p>Jen and Sarah get a crash course in this wild end of the romance/fan fic pool. We’re talking about mating heat (!), knotting (!!), butt babies (!!!) and loads of body fluids (!!!!). Seriously, loads of them. When we say headphones in, we mean it. Enter at your own will, abandon all hope, and bring in 2023 right. </p><p>Check shownotes for omegaverse recommendations, and enjoy, firebirds!</p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening. If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your favorite podcasting app, we would be very grateful.</p><h2><strong>Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Welcome <a href="https://alihazelwood.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ali Hazelwood</a> and <a href="https://adrianaherreraromance.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adriana Herrera</a>, let's just call them AH2, shall we? </li><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/23/business/omegaverse-erotica-copyright.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The New York Times article about the Omegaverse</a>, which is where a lot of us named Jen and Sarah first learned about so much of it. You can also watch this terrific series of videoes from Lindsay Ellis explaining the Omegaverse lawsuits: <a href="https://youtu.be/zhWWcWtAUoY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Into the Omegaverse: How a Fanfic Trope landed in Federal Court</a> and <a href="https://youtu.be/K3v5wFMQRqs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Addison Cain's lawyer e-mailed me, and it only got worse from there</a>. Also, the video essay <a href="https://youtu.be/tBzXixUwCwg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Rise (and Rise) of the Omegaverse</a> by Rowan Ellis.</li><li>Ali recommends reading <a href="https://archiveofourown.org/works/403644/chapters/665489" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this quick Omegaverse primer.</a> Or this other list of <a href="https://ratherembarrassing.tumblr.com/post/637273975565795328/explain-please-1-battle-angel-alita-manga-gains/amp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">how the Omegaverse world</a>exploded. </li><li>You should read <a href="https://amzn.to/3IeXuCZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Song of Achilles by Madeline Miller</a>, which is a good example of how there are books out there telling the stories we want about the characters we love.</li></ul><br/><h2>For Your Consideration: A List of Recommendations of Omegaverse Fics from AH2</h2><ul><li>A quick reminder to please check all tags and CWs as you explore the Omegaverse!</li><li>Ali and Adriana both agree that a great starting point for Reylo ABO is&nbsp;<a href="https://archiveofourown.org/works/14925449/chapters/34576358" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Can't Turn Off What Turns Me On</a>&nbsp;by audreyii_fic. But there are tons of Reylo fics recommended by AH2. If you want ABO in the workplace + elevators, try&nbsp;<a href="https://archiveofourown.org/works/14592102/chapters/33723105" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gonna Get Myself Connected</a>&nbsp;by TourmalineGreen. If you want something sweet and fluffy try&nbsp;<a href="https://archiveofourown.org/works/17818517/chapters/42041354" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">(I Want to See You) As You Are Now</a>&nbsp;by walkingsaladshooter or&nbsp;<a href="https://archiveofourown.org/works/16943019/chapters/39813090" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your name (twine it with mine)</a>&nbsp;by lachesisgrimm (olga_theodora). For an enemies to lovers Reylo vibe, Ali recommends&nbsp;<a href="https://archiveofourown.org/works/16740346" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">like my heart longs for an ocean</a>&nbsp;by hi_raeth. He's the Omega in&nbsp;<a href="https://archiveofourown.org/works/15557310/chapters/36116058" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sharpen your teeth and sink into me</a>&nbsp;by Like_A_Dove. If you want your fic with a sidecar of knitting puns, try&nbsp;<a href="https://archiveofourown.org/works/15380136/chapters/35691879" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Knotting Shop</a>&nbsp;by crossingwinter. Some others AH2 agree on:&nbsp;<a href="https://archiveofourown.org/works/22194457" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Reclaimed</a>&nbsp;by Betts,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3YXKbfN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Juniper and Bergamot</a>&nbsp;by SaintHeretical, and&nbsp;<a href="https://archiveofourown.org/works/16971705/chapters/39888648" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Abash the Little Bird</a>&nbsp;by SecretReyloTrash.</li><li><a href="https://archiveofourown.org/works/18852685/chapters/44744572" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coveted</a>&nbsp;by OptimisticBeth is a crossover between Star Wars and Mercy Thompson.</li><li>If you have a lot of time on your hands, try the Reylo ABO&nbsp;<a href="https://archiveofourown.org/works/20496197/chapters/48639608" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">hereafter</a>&nbsp;by voicedimplosives. If you want lots of voyerism with your Reylo, check out&nbsp;<a href="https://archiveofourown.org/works/19761046/chapters/46776814" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">An Unexpected Vacation</a>&nbsp;by tigbit</li><li>If you're looking for ABO but vampires, try&nbsp;<a href="https://archiveofourown.org/works/21990052/chapters/52473757" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a little death (goes a long way)</a>&nbsp;by crossingwinter</li><li>Adriana recommends trying&nbsp;<a href="https://archiveofourown.org/users/giselleslash/pseuds/giselleslash" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">any Stucky fic by GiselleSlash</a>.</li><li>Ali recs&nbsp;<a href="https://archiveofourown.org/works/748486" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hello, Heartbreaker</a>&nbsp;by astoryaboutwar or&nbsp;<a href="https://archiveofourown.org/works/5369111" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Chase</a>&nbsp;by Tipsy_kitty. In this universe, everyone’s a werewolf and Ali says it's a great starting point for ABO, written for a fandom that has tons of amazing ABO fics. Another TeenWolf fic you might enjoy is</li><li>If you want to try some Sherlock fic (not with Lucy Liu, but Jen believes it must be out there!), check out&nbsp;<a href="https://archiveofourown.org/works/1264423" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Breath Between Us</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://archiveofourown.org/works/989923" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Breath Before Us</a>&nbsp;by fayfayfay.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/12/29/s0515-omegaversity </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/12/29/s0515-omegaversity]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:63ada6a03b987e562e0db22d</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2022 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/17b8fff3-3c51-4781-a8b7-d5ff559d90a1/rated-mates-new-years-omegaverse-reva.mp3" length="121014810" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>02:03:58</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>18</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>18</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>As is customary, we’re celebrating New Year’s Eve here on Fated Mates with some of our favorite people in a fully headphones-in episode! Pour yourself a drink and pull up a chair, because Omegaversity is in session with professors Ali Hazelwood and Adriana Herrera! 

Jen and Sarah get a crash course in this wild end of the romance/fan fic pool. We’re talking about mating heat (!), knotting (!!), butt babies (!!!) and loads of body fluids (!!!!). Seriously, loads of them. When we say headphones in, we mean it. Enter at your own will, abandon all hope, and bring in 2023 right. 

Check shownotes for omegaverse recommendations, and enjoy, firebirds!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-17b8fff3-3c51-4781-a8b7-d5ff559d90a1.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>BONUS: Sarah&apos;s appearance on Failure To Adapt</title><itunes:title>BONUS: Sarah&apos;s appearance on Failure To Adapt</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Sarah recently joined <a href="https://twitter.com/red_scott">Red Scott</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/emteehall">Maggie Tokuda-Hall</a> on their excellent <a href="https://podnews.net/podcast/ia808">Failure To Adapt</a> podcast to discuss the Jane Austen’s Emma and Amy Heckerling’s Clueless. We thought you'd enjoy listening to it here, and they were gracious enough to let us share it with you. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The show’s current season is dedicated solely to Austen adaptations. <a href="https://podnews.net/podcast/ia808">Follow Failure To Adapt</a> in your favorite podcast app to get in on the action. </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Sarah recently joined <a href="https://twitter.com/red_scott">Red Scott</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/emteehall">Maggie Tokuda-Hall</a> on their excellent <a href="https://podnews.net/podcast/ia808">Failure To Adapt</a> podcast to discuss the Jane Austen’s Emma and Amy Heckerling’s Clueless. We thought you'd enjoy listening to it here, and they were gracious enough to let us share it with you. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The show’s current season is dedicated solely to Austen adaptations. <a href="https://podnews.net/podcast/ia808">Follow Failure To Adapt</a> in your favorite podcast app to get in on the action. </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/12/29/bonus-sarahs-appearance-on-failure-to-adapt]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:63adbaff8cd5ef7f9bcb2552</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/0dd25dd3-7a06-4fb1-a9e1-2391ae1136a1/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2022 16:13:29 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/b1611b0e-8162-4238-9bc8-6b709e6e480c/fated-mates-failure-to-adapt.mp3" length="71057588" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:13:36</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>17</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>17</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Sarah recently joined Red Scott and Maggie Tokuda-Hall on their excellent Failure To Adapt podcast to discuss the Jane Austen’s Emma and Amy Heckerling’s Clueless. We thought you&apos;d enjoy listening to it here, and they were gracious enough to let us share it with you. 

The show’s current season is dedicated solely to Austen adaptations. Follow Failure To Adapt in your favorite podcast app to get in on the action. </itunes:summary></item><item><title>Bonus: We Wish You a Merry Christmas...and a Happy New Year of Books</title><itunes:title>Bonus: We Wish You a Merry Christmas...and a Happy New Year of Books</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Happy happy holidays — our gift to you this weekend is a little bantr, a lot of book recs, and a wish that you get everything you want this holiday season, and throughout 2023. We’re so grateful for all of you…and we wish you the merriest, happiest, brightest, most joyful season. We hope you’re staying warm…see you on New Year’s Eve! xx Sarah, Jen &amp; Eric  </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Check out our holiday music playlist on <a href="https://t.umblr.com/redirect?z=https%3A%2F%2Fopen.spotify.com%2Fplaylist%2F0ZVDMB2VCOo7DzrnYBuPEk%3Fsi%3Df247acb7cdf0476c&amp;t=NTc1YjM3N2UzNzYzMWViMmY3MjA1ZmVmOWUyMzhjNDdjMDQzY2M3OCxjOWI0ZDc2Njk4NjkwOWZjODdmMDVlN2Q4ODliOTA2YTNiZDNkNTEw&amp;ts=1671029061" target="_blank">Spotify</a> and <a href="https://href.li/?https://music.apple.com/us/playlist/fated-xmas/pl.u-Npq6Gsjkz6x" target="_blank">Apple Music</a>.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Happy happy holidays — our gift to you this weekend is a little bantr, a lot of book recs, and a wish that you get everything you want this holiday season, and throughout 2023. We’re so grateful for all of you…and we wish you the merriest, happiest, brightest, most joyful season. We hope you’re staying warm…see you on New Year’s Eve! xx Sarah, Jen &amp; Eric  </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Check out our holiday music playlist on <a href="https://t.umblr.com/redirect?z=https%3A%2F%2Fopen.spotify.com%2Fplaylist%2F0ZVDMB2VCOo7DzrnYBuPEk%3Fsi%3Df247acb7cdf0476c&amp;t=NTc1YjM3N2UzNzYzMWViMmY3MjA1ZmVmOWUyMzhjNDdjMDQzY2M3OCxjOWI0ZDc2Njk4NjkwOWZjODdmMDVlN2Q4ODliOTA2YTNiZDNkNTEw&amp;ts=1671029061" target="_blank">Spotify</a> and <a href="https://href.li/?https://music.apple.com/us/playlist/fated-xmas/pl.u-Npq6Gsjkz6x" target="_blank">Apple Music</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/12/24/bonus-we-wish-you-a-merry-christmasand-a-happy-new-year-of-books]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:63a7228f479a49052fa5cdc9</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/0d8448d6-153f-492e-a288-fd0d06d7e336/santaspank2.jpg"/><pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2022 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/2d750aa3-be41-4360-b0e6-e57123b093c5/fated-mates-merry-xmas.mp3" length="22013054" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>21:03</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>16</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>16</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Happy happy holidays — our gift to you this weekend is a little bantr, a lot of book recs, and a wish that you get everything you want this holiday season, and throughout 2023. We’re so grateful for all of you…and we wish you the merriest, happiest, brightest, most joyful season. We hope you’re staying warm…see you on New Year’s Eve! xx Sarah, Jen &amp; Eric  </itunes:summary></item><item><title>S05.14: Band Sinister by KJ Charles</title><itunes:title>Band Sinister by KJ Charles</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It’s our final read along of 2022, and we’re so excited to be talking about KJ Charles’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3gcybWr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Band Sinister</em></a> — one of Jen’s favorite books (she won the coin toss when we picked which of KJ’s books we were going to read). This one has all the things we love: found family, sexy rakes, gentlemen’s societies, meddling sisters, anonymous gothic novelists, hot doctors, and more. We talk about how KJ writes a beautiful book, that seems to use all the necessary words and nothing more, and makes us think differently about the world and our place in it. Do yourself a favor and read it right now. </p><p>This is the last traditional episode of the year — Our next full length episode will be our New Year’s Eve episode and it’s a doozy — we suggest putting your headphones in right now to be prepared. </p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening. If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your favorite podcasting app, we would be very grateful.</p><p>Thanks to Jaye Viner, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3GaxhDO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Jane of Battery Park</em></a>, and to Lumi Labs for sponsoring the episode. Visit <a href="https://microdose.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">microdose.com</a> and use the code FATEDMATES for 30% off your order and free shipping.  </p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li><a href="https://kjcharleswriter.com/standalone-books/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Band Sinister</em> is a stand alone romance</a> published by KJ Charles in 2018. If you loved it as much as we did, go read Sarah's favorite, <a href="https://amzn.to/3G9PIbW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Wanted: A Gentleman</em></a>, next.</li><li>Publishing is on fire, or it least it seems that way. <a href="https://apnews.com/article/technology-entertainment-business-1760f35afe5890cf557f2d96185721ba" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The <em>USA Today</em> Bestseller List is gone</a>, at least until further notice, but <a href="https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/books/a42189320/the-new-york-times-best-seller-lists-explained/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the <em>New York Times</em> list</a> lives on. In other news this week, <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/12/books/bookforum-magazine-closing.html?smid=url-share" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Book Forum</em> is shutting down</a>, and so is <a href="https://deadline.com/2022/12/buzzfeed-layoffs-12-of-workforce-1235190878/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Buzzfeed Books</a>. Oh, and <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/books/2022/12/14/harpercollins-union-workers-strike/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the HarperCollins Union is on strike</a> (we stand with them, and will not be doing deep dives of HarperCollins books until the strike is resolved). </li><li>So what we want to know is: Who is putting together <a href="https://blockclubchicago.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Block Club Chicago</a> and <a href="https://defector.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Defector</a>…but for books.</li><li>What’s a <a href="http://wordsmith.org/words/sawbones.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sawbones</a>? </li><li>Oh, so that’s why <a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/corvine" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Corvin</a>, <a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/raven" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Raven</a>, and <a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rook" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rookwood</a> are called <a href="https://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/a-murder-of-crows-crow-facts/5965/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Murder</a>.</li><li>There is a whole lotta Latin in <a href="https://youtu.be/fYcMk3AJKLk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Two Cathedrals episode</a> of <em>The West Wing</em>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/12/19/s0514-band-sinister-by-kj-charles </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s our final read along of 2022, and we’re so excited to be talking about KJ Charles’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3gcybWr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Band Sinister</em></a> — one of Jen’s favorite books (she won the coin toss when we picked which of KJ’s books we were going to read). This one has all the things we love: found family, sexy rakes, gentlemen’s societies, meddling sisters, anonymous gothic novelists, hot doctors, and more. We talk about how KJ writes a beautiful book, that seems to use all the necessary words and nothing more, and makes us think differently about the world and our place in it. Do yourself a favor and read it right now. </p><p>This is the last traditional episode of the year — Our next full length episode will be our New Year’s Eve episode and it’s a doozy — we suggest putting your headphones in right now to be prepared. </p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening. If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your favorite podcasting app, we would be very grateful.</p><p>Thanks to Jaye Viner, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3GaxhDO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Jane of Battery Park</em></a>, and to Lumi Labs for sponsoring the episode. Visit <a href="https://microdose.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">microdose.com</a> and use the code FATEDMATES for 30% off your order and free shipping.  </p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li><a href="https://kjcharleswriter.com/standalone-books/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Band Sinister</em> is a stand alone romance</a> published by KJ Charles in 2018. If you loved it as much as we did, go read Sarah's favorite, <a href="https://amzn.to/3G9PIbW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Wanted: A Gentleman</em></a>, next.</li><li>Publishing is on fire, or it least it seems that way. <a href="https://apnews.com/article/technology-entertainment-business-1760f35afe5890cf557f2d96185721ba" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The <em>USA Today</em> Bestseller List is gone</a>, at least until further notice, but <a href="https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/books/a42189320/the-new-york-times-best-seller-lists-explained/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the <em>New York Times</em> list</a> lives on. In other news this week, <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/12/books/bookforum-magazine-closing.html?smid=url-share" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Book Forum</em> is shutting down</a>, and so is <a href="https://deadline.com/2022/12/buzzfeed-layoffs-12-of-workforce-1235190878/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Buzzfeed Books</a>. Oh, and <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/books/2022/12/14/harpercollins-union-workers-strike/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the HarperCollins Union is on strike</a> (we stand with them, and will not be doing deep dives of HarperCollins books until the strike is resolved). </li><li>So what we want to know is: Who is putting together <a href="https://blockclubchicago.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Block Club Chicago</a> and <a href="https://defector.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Defector</a>…but for books.</li><li>What’s a <a href="http://wordsmith.org/words/sawbones.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sawbones</a>? </li><li>Oh, so that’s why <a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/corvine" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Corvin</a>, <a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/raven" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Raven</a>, and <a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rook" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rookwood</a> are called <a href="https://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/a-murder-of-crows-crow-facts/5965/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Murder</a>.</li><li>There is a whole lotta Latin in <a href="https://youtu.be/fYcMk3AJKLk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Two Cathedrals episode</a> of <em>The West Wing</em>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/12/19/s0514-band-sinister-by-kj-charles </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/12/19/s0514-band-sinister-by-kj-charles]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:63a0cc942da89127f04f7e70</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2022 04:48:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/3e8ce17a-7b32-45f8-a3df-078e9cd29f06/fated-mates-kj-charles.mp3" length="75081421" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:13:34</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>15</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>15</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>It’s our final read along of 2022, and we’re so excited to be talking about KJ Charles’s Band Sinister — one of Jen’s favorite books (she won the coin toss when we picked which of KJ’s books we were going to read). This one has all the things we love: found family, sexy rakes, gentlemen’s societies, meddling sisters, anonymous gothic novelists, hot doctors, and more. We talk about how KJ writes a beautiful book, that seems to use all the necessary words and nothing more, and makes us think differently about the world and our place in it. Do yourself a favor and read it right now. 

This is the last traditional episode of the year — Our next full length episode will be our New Year’s Eve episode and it’s a doozy — we suggest putting your headphones in right now to be prepared. 

Thank you, as always, for listening. If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your favorite podcasting app, we would be very grateful.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-3e8ce17a-7b32-45f8-a3df-078e9cd29f06.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S05.13: Here Comes Santa Claus</title><itunes:title>Here Comes Santa Clause</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It’s the Holiday Season™️ and for some reason 2022 Holiday Season has brought romance a sleigh full of Santa romance, which may or may not be a thing you’re into…but either way, here we are! Santa is doing all sorts of naughty business in these romances, and this one is definitely not for the kids. So headphones in, MFers! </p><p>While you might not get it in time for the holidays, there’s still time for you to buy the Fated Mates Best of 2022 book collection from <a href="https://oldtownbooks.com/shop/fated-mates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Old Town Books in Alexandria Virginia</a>, and get the eight traditionally published books on the list along with a Fated Mates sticker!</p><p>The holidays are hard, but this box is great. And you deserve it. FYI, you can also throw in other books (or a signed Sarah MacLean book!) if you’d like! Let us know what you end up doing with these fabulous books, and don’t forget to tag us on Instagram or Twitter when you unbox (#FMBestof22)!</p><p>Our next read along will be KJ Charles’s <em>Band Sinister</em>. We did not fight over which KJ Charles book to read because Sarah is all that is good and gracious in the world and she let Jen win. It is Scorpio season, after all. Get <em>Band Sinister</em> at <a href="https://amzn.to/3gcybWr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/band-sinister-kj-charles/1129581787" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/band-sinister/id1436609845" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/band-sinister" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781912688036" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local indie</a>.</p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening. If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your favorite podcasting app, we would be very grateful. </p><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>According to Snopes, <a href="https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/the-claus-that-refreshes/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coca-Cola didn’t invent our modern image of Santa</a>, but they definitely capitalized on it. </li><li><a href="https://bookriot.com/santa-claus-erotica/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book Riot also noticed that santa erotica is on the rise</a>, including a link to last year’s Caressed by Ice episode where we briefly discussed the phenomenon.</li><li>All about the <a href="https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/71999/9-facts-about-krampus-st-nicks-demonic-companion" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">krampus</a>, <a href="https://scandification.com/where-is-lapland/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lapland</a>, and why <a href="https://www.autostraddle.com/the-elf-on-the-shelf-is-a-cop-we-need-the-anti-fascist-on-the-bookcase/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Elf on the Shelf is a cop.</a></li><li>Jen can't take credit for calling Romance <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boss_(video_games)#Final_boss" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"the final boss"</a> because it was <a href="https://twitter.com/Karnythia/status/1281918858824228864?s=20&amp;t=DbArgRV-msl-mZlH2BLv-w" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mikki Kendall who said it first:</a>"Romancelandia is the final form of the final boss in the game no one can beat." Am I trying to actually write out the tweets now isntead of just linking <a href="https://mashable.com/article/twitter-wont-die-under-elon-musk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">in case twitter dies and everything gets deleted?</a> yes.</li><li>Eric wants to remind you about the Fated Xmas playlists on both <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0ZVDMB2VCOo7DzrnYBuPEk?si=d556216e7bff46a3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spotify</a> and <a href="https://music.apple.com/us/playlist/fated-xmas/pl.u-Npq6Gsjkz6x" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Music</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/12/12/s0513-here-comes-santa-claus </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s the Holiday Season™️ and for some reason 2022 Holiday Season has brought romance a sleigh full of Santa romance, which may or may not be a thing you’re into…but either way, here we are! Santa is doing all sorts of naughty business in these romances, and this one is definitely not for the kids. So headphones in, MFers! </p><p>While you might not get it in time for the holidays, there’s still time for you to buy the Fated Mates Best of 2022 book collection from <a href="https://oldtownbooks.com/shop/fated-mates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Old Town Books in Alexandria Virginia</a>, and get the eight traditionally published books on the list along with a Fated Mates sticker!</p><p>The holidays are hard, but this box is great. And you deserve it. FYI, you can also throw in other books (or a signed Sarah MacLean book!) if you’d like! Let us know what you end up doing with these fabulous books, and don’t forget to tag us on Instagram or Twitter when you unbox (#FMBestof22)!</p><p>Our next read along will be KJ Charles’s <em>Band Sinister</em>. We did not fight over which KJ Charles book to read because Sarah is all that is good and gracious in the world and she let Jen win. It is Scorpio season, after all. Get <em>Band Sinister</em> at <a href="https://amzn.to/3gcybWr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/band-sinister-kj-charles/1129581787" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/band-sinister/id1436609845" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/band-sinister" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781912688036" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local indie</a>.</p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening. If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your favorite podcasting app, we would be very grateful. </p><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>According to Snopes, <a href="https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/the-claus-that-refreshes/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coca-Cola didn’t invent our modern image of Santa</a>, but they definitely capitalized on it. </li><li><a href="https://bookriot.com/santa-claus-erotica/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book Riot also noticed that santa erotica is on the rise</a>, including a link to last year’s Caressed by Ice episode where we briefly discussed the phenomenon.</li><li>All about the <a href="https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/71999/9-facts-about-krampus-st-nicks-demonic-companion" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">krampus</a>, <a href="https://scandification.com/where-is-lapland/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lapland</a>, and why <a href="https://www.autostraddle.com/the-elf-on-the-shelf-is-a-cop-we-need-the-anti-fascist-on-the-bookcase/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Elf on the Shelf is a cop.</a></li><li>Jen can't take credit for calling Romance <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boss_(video_games)#Final_boss" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"the final boss"</a> because it was <a href="https://twitter.com/Karnythia/status/1281918858824228864?s=20&amp;t=DbArgRV-msl-mZlH2BLv-w" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mikki Kendall who said it first:</a>"Romancelandia is the final form of the final boss in the game no one can beat." Am I trying to actually write out the tweets now isntead of just linking <a href="https://mashable.com/article/twitter-wont-die-under-elon-musk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">in case twitter dies and everything gets deleted?</a> yes.</li><li>Eric wants to remind you about the Fated Xmas playlists on both <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0ZVDMB2VCOo7DzrnYBuPEk?si=d556216e7bff46a3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spotify</a> and <a href="https://music.apple.com/us/playlist/fated-xmas/pl.u-Npq6Gsjkz6x" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Music</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/12/12/s0513-here-comes-santa-claus </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/12/12/s0513-here-comes-santa-claus]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:6397840115ecb73b27de270a</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2022 19:41:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/ce6e01bd-a47a-4f0e-89a2-466e6dcc184d/fated-mates-santa-clause.mp3" length="60572262" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>59:07</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>14</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>It’s the Holiday Season™️ and for some reason 2022 Holiday Season has brought romance a sleigh full of Santa romance, which may or may not be a thing you’re into…but either way, here we are! Santa is doing all sorts of naughty business in these romances, and this one is definitely not for the kids. So headphones in, MFers! 

While you might not get it in time for the holidays, there’s still time for you to buy the Fated Mates Best of 2022 book collection from Old Town Books in Alexandria Virginia, and get the eight traditionally published books on the list along with a Fated Mates sticker!

The holidays are hard, but this box is great. And you deserve it. FYI, you can also throw in other books (or a signed Sarah MacLean book!) if you’d like! Let us know what you end up doing with these fabulous books, and don’t forget to tag us on Instagram or Twitter when you unbox (#FMBestof22)!

Our next read along will be KJ Charles’s Band Sinister. We did not fight over which KJ Charles book to read because Sarah is all that is good and gracious in the world and she let Jen win. It is Scorpio season, after all. Get Band Sinister at Amazon, Barnes &amp; Noble, Apple Books, Kobo or from your local indie.

Thank you, as always, for listening. If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your favorite podcasting app, we would be very grateful.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-ce6e01bd-a47a-4f0e-89a2-466e6dcc184d.json" type="application/json+chapters"/><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="video/youtube" title="S05.13: Here Comes Santa Claus"><podcast:source uri="https://youtu.be/XFC6AOCAxw0"/></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>S05.12: Twinterstitial: Twins in Romance</title><itunes:title>S05.12: Twinterstitial: Twins in Romance</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>TWINS! For two romance readers steeped in 80s romance mythology, it’s hard to believe that it took us five seasons to have an interstitial on twins (a Twinterstitial?)! Jen has a theory about a romance twin continuum and Sarah jumps right back out of a boiling twin pot. It’s an exciting episode full of romance history, with plenty of recent titles to try. Just think: if you had a twin during the holiday season, someone else could deal with all your relatives for you! That’s the real HEA. </p><p>Buy the Fated Mates Best of Book Pack from our friends at <a href="https://oldtownbooks.com/shop/fated-mates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Old Town Books in Alexandria Virginia</a>, and get the eight traditionally published books on the list and a Fated Mates sticker! We love the idea of you gifting yourself this box, but maybe you’d like to slide into someone’s text messages with the link as a very excellent gift for you! Or…you can do what Sarah does, and buy the box and spread the love around—sending each of the books to someone on your list. FYI, you can also throw in other books (or a signed Sarah MacLean book!) if you’d like! Let us know what you end up doing with these fabulous books, and don’t forget to tag us on Instagram or Twitter when you unbox (#FMBestof22)!</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p>You might not be descended from people on the Mayflower, but <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57698818" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">according to the BBC, at least 35 million people are.</a></p><p><a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/health-59140359" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">People are getting taller over time</a>, but someone forgot to tell Jen’s DNA about it. </p><p>Sarah’s new oven has a <a href="https://kitchengearoid.com/range-ovens/what-is-bread-proof-setting-on-oven/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">proving function</a> (<a href="https://youtu.be/okrvOAUg-yY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">not that kind of proving</a>) She made <a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/chelsea_buns_01576" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">chelsea buns</a> not <a href="http://www.angelinamlopez.com/blog/2021/4/7/the-alpha-roll-the-perfect-man-alpha-cinnamon-roll" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">cinnamon rolls</a>. </p><p><a href="https://www.themarysue.com/felicia-grossman-antisemitism-holds-no-place-in-romance/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Georgette Heyer's books are racist and antisemetic</a>, so we don’t often discuss her, but <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_Colours" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">False Colors</a> is one of the first twin romances. </p><p>The 80s were thick with twins: <a href="https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/bimadewunmi/sweet-valley-high-francine-pascal-nostalgia" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sweet Valley High</a>, <a href="https://crimereads.com/v-c-andrews-banned-books-school-censorship/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Flowers in the Attic</a>, <a href="https://youtu.be/Mw1Z2Jlp9Qw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twins</a>, <a href="https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/pictures/mary-kate-and-ashley-through-the-years-201196/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen from Full House</a>, and <a href="https://youtu.be/PMAhVpgzmRU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Parent Trap</a> to name just a few. </p><p>Twins take a lot of energy to film, and here is <a href="https://youtu.be/LEbHATMvgik" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a really cool video from Movies Insider explaining how filming twin scenes has evolved over 100 years.</a></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TWINS! For two romance readers steeped in 80s romance mythology, it’s hard to believe that it took us five seasons to have an interstitial on twins (a Twinterstitial?)! Jen has a theory about a romance twin continuum and Sarah jumps right back out of a boiling twin pot. It’s an exciting episode full of romance history, with plenty of recent titles to try. Just think: if you had a twin during the holiday season, someone else could deal with all your relatives for you! That’s the real HEA. </p><p>Buy the Fated Mates Best of Book Pack from our friends at <a href="https://oldtownbooks.com/shop/fated-mates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Old Town Books in Alexandria Virginia</a>, and get the eight traditionally published books on the list and a Fated Mates sticker! We love the idea of you gifting yourself this box, but maybe you’d like to slide into someone’s text messages with the link as a very excellent gift for you! Or…you can do what Sarah does, and buy the box and spread the love around—sending each of the books to someone on your list. FYI, you can also throw in other books (or a signed Sarah MacLean book!) if you’d like! Let us know what you end up doing with these fabulous books, and don’t forget to tag us on Instagram or Twitter when you unbox (#FMBestof22)!</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p>You might not be descended from people on the Mayflower, but <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57698818" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">according to the BBC, at least 35 million people are.</a></p><p><a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/health-59140359" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">People are getting taller over time</a>, but someone forgot to tell Jen’s DNA about it. </p><p>Sarah’s new oven has a <a href="https://kitchengearoid.com/range-ovens/what-is-bread-proof-setting-on-oven/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">proving function</a> (<a href="https://youtu.be/okrvOAUg-yY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">not that kind of proving</a>) She made <a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/chelsea_buns_01576" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">chelsea buns</a> not <a href="http://www.angelinamlopez.com/blog/2021/4/7/the-alpha-roll-the-perfect-man-alpha-cinnamon-roll" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">cinnamon rolls</a>. </p><p><a href="https://www.themarysue.com/felicia-grossman-antisemitism-holds-no-place-in-romance/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Georgette Heyer's books are racist and antisemetic</a>, so we don’t often discuss her, but <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_Colours" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">False Colors</a> is one of the first twin romances. </p><p>The 80s were thick with twins: <a href="https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/bimadewunmi/sweet-valley-high-francine-pascal-nostalgia" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sweet Valley High</a>, <a href="https://crimereads.com/v-c-andrews-banned-books-school-censorship/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Flowers in the Attic</a>, <a href="https://youtu.be/Mw1Z2Jlp9Qw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twins</a>, <a href="https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/pictures/mary-kate-and-ashley-through-the-years-201196/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen from Full House</a>, and <a href="https://youtu.be/PMAhVpgzmRU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Parent Trap</a> to name just a few. </p><p>Twins take a lot of energy to film, and here is <a href="https://youtu.be/LEbHATMvgik" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a really cool video from Movies Insider explaining how filming twin scenes has evolved over 100 years.</a></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/12/5/s0512-twins-in-romance-interstitial]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:638ea56cac15b3189470e245</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2022 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/fda0696d-5a4c-4094-89ba-e33b21207e3b/fated-mates-twins-interstitial.mp3" length="71290273" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:08:00</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>13</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>TWINS! For two romance readers steeped in 80s romance mythology, it’s hard to believe that it took us five seasons to have an interstitial on twins (a Twinterstitial?)! Jen has a theory about a romance twin continuum and Sarah jumps right back out of a boiling twin pot. It’s an exciting episode full of romance history, with plenty of recent titles to try. Just think: if you had a twin during the holiday season, someone else could deal with all your relatives for you! That’s the real HEA.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-fda0696d-5a4c-4094-89ba-e33b21207e3b.json" type="application/json+chapters"/><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="video/youtube" title="S05.12: Twinterstitial: Twins in Romance"><podcast:source uri="https://youtu.be/Frm6KibDXcU"/></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>S05.11: Best Romance Novels of 2022</title><itunes:title>S05.11: The Best Romance Novels of 2022</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The Best Romance Novels of 2022! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">It’s the best and worst task of the year for us, because we read so many fabulous books over the course of the year, and choosing ten is hard for us, ok? But here they are — ten gorgeous books that we adored—books that delivered all the things we love in romance: sharp edges, sparkling dialogue, strong heroines and smoking hot chemistry. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Buy the Fated Mates Best of Book Pack in one fell swoop from our friends at <a href="https://oldtownbooks.com/shop/fated-mates">Old Town Books in Alexandria Virginia</a>, and get the eight traditionally published books on the list and a Fated Mates sticker! We love the idea of you gifting yourself this box, but maybe you’d like to slide into someone’s text messages with the link as a very excellent gift for you! Or…you can do what Sarah does, and buy the box and spread the love around—sending each of the books to someone on your list. FYI, you can also throw in other books (or a signed Sarah MacLean book!) if you’d like! Let us know what you end up doing with these fabulous books, and don’t forget to tag us on Instagram or Twitter when you unbox (#FMBestof22)! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our next read along will be KJ Charles’s <em>Band Sinister</em>. We did not fight over which KJ Charles book to read because Sarah is all that is good and gracious in the world and she let Jen win. It is Scorpio season, after all. Get <em>Band Sinister</em> at <a href="https://amzn.to/3gcybWr">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/band-sinister-kj-charles/1129581787">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/band-sinister/id1436609845">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/band-sinister">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781912688036">from your local indie</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thank you, as always, for listening. If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your favorite podcasting app, we would be very grateful. </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The Best Romance Novels of 2022! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">It’s the best and worst task of the year for us, because we read so many fabulous books over the course of the year, and choosing ten is hard for us, ok? But here they are — ten gorgeous books that we adored—books that delivered all the things we love in romance: sharp edges, sparkling dialogue, strong heroines and smoking hot chemistry. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Buy the Fated Mates Best of Book Pack in one fell swoop from our friends at <a href="https://oldtownbooks.com/shop/fated-mates">Old Town Books in Alexandria Virginia</a>, and get the eight traditionally published books on the list and a Fated Mates sticker! We love the idea of you gifting yourself this box, but maybe you’d like to slide into someone’s text messages with the link as a very excellent gift for you! Or…you can do what Sarah does, and buy the box and spread the love around—sending each of the books to someone on your list. FYI, you can also throw in other books (or a signed Sarah MacLean book!) if you’d like! Let us know what you end up doing with these fabulous books, and don’t forget to tag us on Instagram or Twitter when you unbox (#FMBestof22)! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our next read along will be KJ Charles’s <em>Band Sinister</em>. We did not fight over which KJ Charles book to read because Sarah is all that is good and gracious in the world and she let Jen win. It is Scorpio season, after all. Get <em>Band Sinister</em> at <a href="https://amzn.to/3gcybWr">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/band-sinister-kj-charles/1129581787">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/band-sinister/id1436609845">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/band-sinister">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781912688036">from your local indie</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thank you, as always, for listening. If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your favorite podcasting app, we would be very grateful. </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/11/27/s0511-the-best-romance-novels-of-2022]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:6383e8def9b5960c6a901720</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/f28d2b3e-4520-4fcc-b6b4-55ac0ff1fa26/fm-bestof2022-lg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2022 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/1aa89d68-afd0-450b-a45b-0c28d8bba179/fated-mates-best-romance-novels-of-2022.mp3" length="107828725" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:47:05</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>12</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>The Best Romance Novels of 2022! 

It’s the best and worst task of the year for us, because we read so many fabulous books over the course of the year, and choosing ten is hard for us, ok? But here they are — ten gorgeous books that we adored—books that delivered all the things we love in romance: sharp edges, sparkling dialogue, strong heroines and smoking hot chemistry. 

Buy the Fated Mates Best of Book Pack in one fell swoop from our friends at Old Town Books in Alexandria Virginia, and get the eight traditionally published books on the list and a Fated Mates sticker! We love the idea of you gifting yourself this box, but maybe you’d like to slide into someone’s text messages with the link as a very excellent gift for you! Or…you can do what Sarah does, and buy the box and spread the love around—sending each of the books to someone on your list. FYI, you can also throw in other books (or a signed Sarah MacLean book!) if you’d like! Let us know what you end up doing with these fabulous books, and don’t forget to tag us on Instagram or Twitter when you unbox (#FMBestof22)! </itunes:summary></item><item><title>S05.10: The Diamond Dogs Book Club: Romance Novel Recommendations for the Ted Lasso Cast</title><itunes:title>S05.10: The Diamond Dogs Book Club: Ted Lasso Romance Recs</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Two seasons ago we promised an episode where we recommend romance novels for each of the characters in Ted Lasso. Sarah’s brother is holding us to it! This week, we’re filling the TBRs of every single member of the Richmond Team…and Trent Crimm, of the Independent. It is a very chaotic journey…but one we hope you’ll enjoy. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">F*ck Cancer. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Next week, we’re taking a break while Sarah makes Thanksgiving dinner and Jen waits for hers to warm in the oven (definitely the smarter of the two choices). We’ll be back on November 30th with our Best of the Year episode — Happy long weekend of sloth and excess to all those who celebrate! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our next read along will be KJ Charles’s <em>Band Sinister</em>. We did not fight over which KJ Charles book to read because Sarah is all that is good and gracious in the world and she let Jen win. It is Scorpio season, after all. Get <em>Band Sinister</em> at <a href="https://amzn.to/3gcybWr">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/band-sinister-kj-charles/1129581787">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/band-sinister/id1436609845">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/band-sinister">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781912688036">from your local indie</a>. </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Two seasons ago we promised an episode where we recommend romance novels for each of the characters in Ted Lasso. Sarah’s brother is holding us to it! This week, we’re filling the TBRs of every single member of the Richmond Team…and Trent Crimm, of the Independent. It is a very chaotic journey…but one we hope you’ll enjoy. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">F*ck Cancer. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Next week, we’re taking a break while Sarah makes Thanksgiving dinner and Jen waits for hers to warm in the oven (definitely the smarter of the two choices). We’ll be back on November 30th with our Best of the Year episode — Happy long weekend of sloth and excess to all those who celebrate! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our next read along will be KJ Charles’s <em>Band Sinister</em>. We did not fight over which KJ Charles book to read because Sarah is all that is good and gracious in the world and she let Jen win. It is Scorpio season, after all. Get <em>Band Sinister</em> at <a href="https://amzn.to/3gcybWr">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/band-sinister-kj-charles/1129581787">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/band-sinister/id1436609845">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/band-sinister">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781912688036">from your local indie</a>. </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/11/12/s0510-the-diamond-dogs-book-club]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:637012032077d17df0679a9a</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/c2f28cbd-a807-4fdd-a0b1-3d10db3a738c/roy-kent.jpeg"/><pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2022 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/70efb6db-b5ce-4d21-ac17-b4fc8c25c194/fated-mates-ted-lasso-recs-reva.mp3" length="81659452" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:16:58</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>11</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Two seasons ago we promised an episode where we recommend romance novels for each of the characters in Ted Lasso. Sarah’s brother is holding us to it! This week, we’re filling the TBRs of every single member of the Richmond Team…and Trent Crimm, of the Independent. It is a very chaotic journey…but one we hope you’ll enjoy. </itunes:summary></item><item><title>S05.09: Hold by Claire Kent: There is Nothing Soft in this Book</title><itunes:title>Hold by Claire Kent: There is Nothing Soft in this Book</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We’ve talked about this week’s read along so much it’s kind of impossible to imagine that we haven’t read it with y’all, yet! But here we are, finally cracking open Claire Kent’s brilliant novella, <em>Hold</em>. Set on a prison planet, this one dials forced proximity up to 11, and does the excellent job of answering just how horrifying a world can you write a romance in? The answer is very. Very horrifying. We talk about sex and consent and strength and humanity and how love blooms in even the darkest of places. Is it possible we needed this book this week? It sure is.</p><p>Content warnings for the book and headphones in for the episode, magnificent firebirds!</p><p>Get <em>Hold</em> at <a href="https://amzn.to/3DvifaE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon, free in Kindle Unlimited</a>.</p><p>Thanks to the <a href="https://meetcutebookshop.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Meet Cute Bookshop</a> in San Diego, CA and Lumi Labs, creators of <a href="https://microdose.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Microdose Gummies</a>, for sponsoring the episode. Visit the Meet Cute website to browse <a href="https://meetcutebookshop.com/lists/LZNqZyY5SUD8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">their Space Romance list</a>, and use the code FATEDMATES for 30% your order at <a href="https://microdose.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Microdose.com</a></p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><ul><li>If you like astrology, check out <a href="https://www.costarastrology.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the CoStar app.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.clairekent.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Claire Kent</a> also writes as <a href="https://www.noelle-adams.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Noelle Adams</a>. Hold was released in 2015 and is the first book in a series, the next books in the series are Release, Fall, and Rise. </li><li>It <a href="https://www.cato.org/blog/americas-criminal-justice-system-rotten-core" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">doesn’t take much digging</a> to find out about <a href="https://www.themarshallproject.org/records/4766-prison-abolition" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the inhumanity and injustice of the American Justice System</a>. It is <a href="https://www.prisonpolicy.org/blog/2020/07/27/disparities/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">absolutely unjust and racist to the core</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.nps.gov/alca/planyourvisit/index.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alcatraz</a> and <a href="https://www.statueofliberty.org/visit/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ellis Island</a> are tourist destinations worth seeing, but also…<a href="https://www.alcatrazhistory.com/rock/rock-022.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">who the fuck invented Alcatraz</a>. </li><li>Emma on TikTok and <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRxavPdU/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">abolitionism and romance</a>. Also <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRxaqBaC/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here</a>. Just follow her!</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/11/8/s0509-hold-by-claire-kent </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We’ve talked about this week’s read along so much it’s kind of impossible to imagine that we haven’t read it with y’all, yet! But here we are, finally cracking open Claire Kent’s brilliant novella, <em>Hold</em>. Set on a prison planet, this one dials forced proximity up to 11, and does the excellent job of answering just how horrifying a world can you write a romance in? The answer is very. Very horrifying. We talk about sex and consent and strength and humanity and how love blooms in even the darkest of places. Is it possible we needed this book this week? It sure is.</p><p>Content warnings for the book and headphones in for the episode, magnificent firebirds!</p><p>Get <em>Hold</em> at <a href="https://amzn.to/3DvifaE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon, free in Kindle Unlimited</a>.</p><p>Thanks to the <a href="https://meetcutebookshop.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Meet Cute Bookshop</a> in San Diego, CA and Lumi Labs, creators of <a href="https://microdose.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Microdose Gummies</a>, for sponsoring the episode. Visit the Meet Cute website to browse <a href="https://meetcutebookshop.com/lists/LZNqZyY5SUD8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">their Space Romance list</a>, and use the code FATEDMATES for 30% your order at <a href="https://microdose.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Microdose.com</a></p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><ul><li>If you like astrology, check out <a href="https://www.costarastrology.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the CoStar app.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.clairekent.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Claire Kent</a> also writes as <a href="https://www.noelle-adams.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Noelle Adams</a>. Hold was released in 2015 and is the first book in a series, the next books in the series are Release, Fall, and Rise. </li><li>It <a href="https://www.cato.org/blog/americas-criminal-justice-system-rotten-core" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">doesn’t take much digging</a> to find out about <a href="https://www.themarshallproject.org/records/4766-prison-abolition" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the inhumanity and injustice of the American Justice System</a>. It is <a href="https://www.prisonpolicy.org/blog/2020/07/27/disparities/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">absolutely unjust and racist to the core</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.nps.gov/alca/planyourvisit/index.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alcatraz</a> and <a href="https://www.statueofliberty.org/visit/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ellis Island</a> are tourist destinations worth seeing, but also…<a href="https://www.alcatrazhistory.com/rock/rock-022.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">who the fuck invented Alcatraz</a>. </li><li>Emma on TikTok and <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRxavPdU/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">abolitionism and romance</a>. Also <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRxaqBaC/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here</a>. Just follow her!</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/11/8/s0509-hold-by-claire-kent </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/11/8/s0509-hold-by-claire-kent]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:636ac7d14a8150489672ed02</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2022 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/a7b64272-6f52-4f12-b0e4-dacbe446cd6e/fated-mates-hold-by-claire-kent.mp3" length="70755316" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:10:48</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>10</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We’ve talked about this week’s read along so much it’s kind of impossible to imagine that we haven’t read it with y’all, yet! But here we are, finally cracking open Claire Kent’s brilliant novella, Hold. Set on a prison planet, this one dials forced proximity up to 11, and does the excellent job of answering just how horrifying a world can you write a romance in? The answer is very. Very horrifying. We talk about sex and consent and strength and humanity and how love blooms in even the darkest of places. Is it possible we needed this book this week? It sure is.

Content warnings for the book and headphones in for the episode, magnificent firebirds!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-a7b64272-6f52-4f12-b0e4-dacbe446cd6e.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S05.08: Iris Johansen: Trailblazer </title><itunes:title>S05.08: Trailblazer Iris Johansen</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our Trailblazer episodes continue this week with Iris Johansen, who began writing category romance in the heyday of the format at Loveswept. During her varied career, she’s written categories, historicals and now writes thrillers and crime novels.  </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">In this episode, we talk about the founding of Loveswept, about how she learned to write, and about the power of storytelling. We also talk about the way her career has grown and evolved—about transitioning to thrillers, about writing the Eve Duncan series for 28 books, and about keeping it in the family and writing with her son. We had a wonderful time hearing these stories. Thank you to Iris Johansen for making the time for us.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thanks to Callie Chase, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3WmKXlf"><em>Dishonor Among Thieves</em></a> and Sara Wetmore, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3Nog7F0"><em>The Christmas Script</em></a>, for sponsoring the episode. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our next read along is Claire Kent’s HOLD. It’s a prison planet romance, so…you know…enter at your own risk. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3DvifaE">Amazon</a> or in <a href="https://amzn.to/3DvifaE">Kindle Unlimited</a>.    </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">People Iris Mentioned: Loveswept editor Carolyn Nichols, Agent Andrea Cirillo, Sandra Brown, Kay Hooper, Fayrene Preston, Roy Johansen, Catherine Coulter, Linda Howard, Kathleen Woodiwiss, Johanna Lindsey, Jayne Ann Krentz, Ann Maxwell. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The story of <a href="https://www.irisjohansen.com/news-view.php?id=50">Roy Johansen's visit</a> to <a href="https://www.msichicago.org/explore/whats-here/exhibits/u-505-submarine/exhibit/restoration-relocation/relocating-the-u-505/">the submarine at Chicago's Museum of Science and Industry.</a></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our Trailblazer episodes continue this week with Iris Johansen, who began writing category romance in the heyday of the format at Loveswept. During her varied career, she’s written categories, historicals and now writes thrillers and crime novels.  </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">In this episode, we talk about the founding of Loveswept, about how she learned to write, and about the power of storytelling. We also talk about the way her career has grown and evolved—about transitioning to thrillers, about writing the Eve Duncan series for 28 books, and about keeping it in the family and writing with her son. We had a wonderful time hearing these stories. Thank you to Iris Johansen for making the time for us.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thanks to Callie Chase, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3WmKXlf"><em>Dishonor Among Thieves</em></a> and Sara Wetmore, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3Nog7F0"><em>The Christmas Script</em></a>, for sponsoring the episode. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our next read along is Claire Kent’s HOLD. It’s a prison planet romance, so…you know…enter at your own risk. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3DvifaE">Amazon</a> or in <a href="https://amzn.to/3DvifaE">Kindle Unlimited</a>.    </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">People Iris Mentioned: Loveswept editor Carolyn Nichols, Agent Andrea Cirillo, Sandra Brown, Kay Hooper, Fayrene Preston, Roy Johansen, Catherine Coulter, Linda Howard, Kathleen Woodiwiss, Johanna Lindsey, Jayne Ann Krentz, Ann Maxwell. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The story of <a href="https://www.irisjohansen.com/news-view.php?id=50">Roy Johansen's visit</a> to <a href="https://www.msichicago.org/explore/whats-here/exhibits/u-505-submarine/exhibit/restoration-relocation/relocating-the-u-505/">the submarine at Chicago's Museum of Science and Industry.</a></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/11/1/s0508-trailblazer-iris-johansen]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:63615aded35f61280ef879b8</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/294dca11-9209-4bc6-aa6d-d71d29a936c2/red-trailblazers.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2022 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/adaf78d8-7ef8-415c-8107-c00caed242a5/fated-mates-trailblazer-iris-johansen-reva.mp3" length="61801796" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:01:28</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>9</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Our Trailblazer episodes continue this week with Iris Johansen, who began writing category romance in the heyday of the format at Loveswept. During her varied career, she’s written categories, historicals and now writes thrillers and crime novels.  

In this episode, we talk about the founding of Loveswept, about how she learned to write, and about the power of storytelling. We also talk about the way her career has grown and evolved—about transitioning to thrillers, about writing the Eve Duncan series for 28 books, and about keeping it in the family and writing with her son. We had a wonderful time hearing these stories. Thank you to Iris Johansen for making the time for us.</itunes:summary></item><item><title>S05.07: Spooky Stuff! Halloween Romance</title><itunes:title>Spooky Stuff! Halloween Romance</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It’s spooky season and that means we’re reading spooky stuff! We recommend some of our favorite recent witches and demons and incubii and ghosts and vampires and others…and then we try to get to the bottom of why paranormal romance and monster romance doesn’t feel like halloween romance to but these books do? This episode has it all: celebrity witch talk, a<strong> </strong>welshman named Rhys who <em>isn’t </em>the one you’re thinking of, a peek into Sarah’s past that reveals a painting that just might have installed one of her buttons…she had a beer before we recorded, so stuff happens! This one’s all treat, no trick…but headphones in, y’all. This one isn’t for the kids.</p><p>Thanks to Terri Green, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3N45rex" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Swordmaster’s Daughter</em></a> and Alyxandra Harvey, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3gKsQpi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>How to Marry a Viscount</em></a>, for sponsoring the episode. </p><p>Our next read along is Claire Kent’s HOLD. It’s a prison planet romance, so…you know…enter at your own risk. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3DvifaE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a> or in <a href="https://amzn.to/3DvifaE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kindle Unlimited</a>. </p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Spooky Shit Nitro Stout isn’t a brand, <a href="https://www.craftbeer.com/craft-beer-muses/good-beer-gas-nitro-beers-explained" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">it’s a process</a>.</li><li>Although we’ve never done a Halloween episode before, we did have a <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/10/18/s0406-monster-romance-interstitial-with-jenny-nordbak" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">monster romance interstitial in season 4 with guest Jenny Nordbak</a>. Also, all of season 1, basically. </li><li>We came up with a new rule for what makes something a paranormal, which is it’s about whether or not the main characters are immortals or humans. Or, you know, <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/halloween-remember-witch-hunts-were-created-patriarchy-terrified-older-women-ncna1074236" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the patriarchy</a>. </li><li>And now time for a celebrity gossip interlude: Are Gisele Bündchen &amp; Olivia Wilde witches? It's possible. It has something to do with <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTR98R8YY/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">altars &amp; healing stones</a>, <a href="https://www.vox.com/culture/2022/9/6/23339631/dont-worry-darling-wilde-pugh-feud-explained" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">[the Don’t Worry Darling controversy]</a>, <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTR98LWvB/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jason Sudeikis under a car</a>, and Nora Ephron’s <a href="https://www.thecut.com/2022/10/olivia-wilde-jason-sudeikis-salad-dressing.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">salad dressing.</a></li><li>We have two more Fated States phonebanks! <a href="https://www.fatedmates.net/fatedstates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Register here</a> for Oct 29 at 3 eastern to Kentucky for Charles Booker, and Nov 5 at 3 eastern to Pennsylvania for John Fetterman. </li><li>Did someone mention <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/9/24/s0503-marrying-winterborne-by-lisa-kleypas" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a Welshman named Rhys?</a></li><li>Gather round and look at the painting <a href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/ff/John_Henry_Fuseli_-_The_NightmareFXD.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Nightmare by Henry Fuseli</a>. Here’s <a href="https://artincontext.org/the-nightmare-henry-fuseli/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a cool explainer about the significance of the painting.</a></li><li>As of Oct 25, 2022, the United States has 1,090, 632 dead from Covid. Worldwide, at least 7.5M people have died. Get boosted. Wear a mask.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/24/s0507-halloween-and-other-spooky-romances-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s spooky season and that means we’re reading spooky stuff! We recommend some of our favorite recent witches and demons and incubii and ghosts and vampires and others…and then we try to get to the bottom of why paranormal romance and monster romance doesn’t feel like halloween romance to but these books do? This episode has it all: celebrity witch talk, a<strong> </strong>welshman named Rhys who <em>isn’t </em>the one you’re thinking of, a peek into Sarah’s past that reveals a painting that just might have installed one of her buttons…she had a beer before we recorded, so stuff happens! This one’s all treat, no trick…but headphones in, y’all. This one isn’t for the kids.</p><p>Thanks to Terri Green, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3N45rex" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Swordmaster’s Daughter</em></a> and Alyxandra Harvey, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3gKsQpi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>How to Marry a Viscount</em></a>, for sponsoring the episode. </p><p>Our next read along is Claire Kent’s HOLD. It’s a prison planet romance, so…you know…enter at your own risk. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3DvifaE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a> or in <a href="https://amzn.to/3DvifaE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kindle Unlimited</a>. </p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Spooky Shit Nitro Stout isn’t a brand, <a href="https://www.craftbeer.com/craft-beer-muses/good-beer-gas-nitro-beers-explained" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">it’s a process</a>.</li><li>Although we’ve never done a Halloween episode before, we did have a <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/10/18/s0406-monster-romance-interstitial-with-jenny-nordbak" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">monster romance interstitial in season 4 with guest Jenny Nordbak</a>. Also, all of season 1, basically. </li><li>We came up with a new rule for what makes something a paranormal, which is it’s about whether or not the main characters are immortals or humans. Or, you know, <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/halloween-remember-witch-hunts-were-created-patriarchy-terrified-older-women-ncna1074236" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the patriarchy</a>. </li><li>And now time for a celebrity gossip interlude: Are Gisele Bündchen &amp; Olivia Wilde witches? It's possible. It has something to do with <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTR98R8YY/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">altars &amp; healing stones</a>, <a href="https://www.vox.com/culture/2022/9/6/23339631/dont-worry-darling-wilde-pugh-feud-explained" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">[the Don’t Worry Darling controversy]</a>, <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTR98LWvB/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jason Sudeikis under a car</a>, and Nora Ephron’s <a href="https://www.thecut.com/2022/10/olivia-wilde-jason-sudeikis-salad-dressing.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">salad dressing.</a></li><li>We have two more Fated States phonebanks! <a href="https://www.fatedmates.net/fatedstates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Register here</a> for Oct 29 at 3 eastern to Kentucky for Charles Booker, and Nov 5 at 3 eastern to Pennsylvania for John Fetterman. </li><li>Did someone mention <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/9/24/s0503-marrying-winterborne-by-lisa-kleypas" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a Welshman named Rhys?</a></li><li>Gather round and look at the painting <a href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/ff/John_Henry_Fuseli_-_The_NightmareFXD.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Nightmare by Henry Fuseli</a>. Here’s <a href="https://artincontext.org/the-nightmare-henry-fuseli/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a cool explainer about the significance of the painting.</a></li><li>As of Oct 25, 2022, the United States has 1,090, 632 dead from Covid. Worldwide, at least 7.5M people have died. Get boosted. Wear a mask.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/24/s0507-halloween-and-other-spooky-romances-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/24/s0507-halloween-and-other-spooky-romances-interstitial]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:6356e81ed70fae272a0e24e3</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2022 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/c850480e-7a03-4051-818b-86ff5ec16cbc/spookyshit-final-noramlmized-reva.mp3" length="66662333" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:04:42</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>8</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>It’s spooky season and that means we’re reading spooky stuff! We recommend some of our favorite recent witches and demons and incubii and ghosts and vampires and others…and then we try to get to the bottom of why paranormal romance and monster romance doesn’t feel like halloween romance to but these books do? This episode has it all: celebrity witch talk, a welshman named Rhys who isn’t the one you’re thinking of, a peek into Sarah’s past that reveals a painting that just might have installed one of her buttons…she had a beer before we recorded, so stuff happens! This one’s all treat, no trick…but headphones in, y’all. This one isn’t for the kids.

Thanks to Terri Green, author of The Swordmaster’s Daughter and Alyxandra Harvey, author of How to Marry a Viscount, for sponsoring the episode. 

Our next read along is Claire Kent’s HOLD. It’s a prison planet romance, so…you know…enter at your own risk. Get it at Amazon or in Kindle Unlimited.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-c850480e-7a03-4051-818b-86ff5ec16cbc.json" type="application/json+chapters"/><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="video/youtube" title="S05.07: Spooky Stuff! Halloween Romance"><podcast:source uri="https://youtu.be/rmXqy2usyl8"/></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>S05.06: Redemption Romance with Christopher Rice</title><itunes:title>Redemption Romance Interstitial with Christopher Rice</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In the very best version of “third time’s the charm,” we are finally welcoming Christopher Rice to Fated Mates! A man of many talents, he writes fabulous contemporary romances as C. Travis Rice, and suspense, crime and supernatural thrillers as Christopher Rice. Today we’re talking Redemption Romance in honor of his most recent romance release, <em>Sapphire Spring</em>. </p><p>In this episode, we talk about how redemption romances and bully romances work, how tricky they are to write, and why so many of us are so drawn to redemption arcs — particularly when they involve sticking it to our childhood enemies. We had the best time with Christopher, who filled our TBRs…so get ready, because he’s definitely going to fill yours, too. </p><p>Thanks to Lumi Labs, creators of <a href="https://microdose.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Microdose Gummies</a>, for sponsoring the episode. Use the code FATEDMATES for 30% off and free shipping. Thanks, also, to <a href="https://letsemjoy.com/mates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">emjoy</a> for sponsoring the episode. Visit <a href="https://letsemjoy.com/mates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">letsemjoy.com/mates</a> for a 14-day free trial. </p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p>This week's guest is <a href="http://www.christopherricebooks.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Christopher Rice</a>, who also publishes under the name C. Travis Rice. He and his best friend Eric Shaw Quinn host a podcast called <a href="https://thedinnerpartyshow.com/christopherandericpodcast/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Dinner Party Show</a>.</p><p>The inspiration for the Sapphire Cove series came from Nora Roberts's Dream Trilogy. The first one is Daring to Dream.</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Valjean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jean Valjean</a> is the main character in Victor Hugo's Les Miserables.</p><p>A <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molly_house" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Molly House</a> was a British term for a place where gay men could meet up. Like Victorian <a href="https://www.grindr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Grindr</a>.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the very best version of “third time’s the charm,” we are finally welcoming Christopher Rice to Fated Mates! A man of many talents, he writes fabulous contemporary romances as C. Travis Rice, and suspense, crime and supernatural thrillers as Christopher Rice. Today we’re talking Redemption Romance in honor of his most recent romance release, <em>Sapphire Spring</em>. </p><p>In this episode, we talk about how redemption romances and bully romances work, how tricky they are to write, and why so many of us are so drawn to redemption arcs — particularly when they involve sticking it to our childhood enemies. We had the best time with Christopher, who filled our TBRs…so get ready, because he’s definitely going to fill yours, too. </p><p>Thanks to Lumi Labs, creators of <a href="https://microdose.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Microdose Gummies</a>, for sponsoring the episode. Use the code FATEDMATES for 30% off and free shipping. Thanks, also, to <a href="https://letsemjoy.com/mates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">emjoy</a> for sponsoring the episode. Visit <a href="https://letsemjoy.com/mates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">letsemjoy.com/mates</a> for a 14-day free trial. </p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p>This week's guest is <a href="http://www.christopherricebooks.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Christopher Rice</a>, who also publishes under the name C. Travis Rice. He and his best friend Eric Shaw Quinn host a podcast called <a href="https://thedinnerpartyshow.com/christopherandericpodcast/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Dinner Party Show</a>.</p><p>The inspiration for the Sapphire Cove series came from Nora Roberts's Dream Trilogy. The first one is Daring to Dream.</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Valjean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jean Valjean</a> is the main character in Victor Hugo's Les Miserables.</p><p>A <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molly_house" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Molly House</a> was a British term for a place where gay men could meet up. Like Victorian <a href="https://www.grindr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Grindr</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/18/s0506-redemption-romance-interstitial-with-christopher-rice]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:634f19063983ef4201203fb2</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2022 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/fa83f4ef-3f7e-436d-b6bc-bb71cdfc7988/chris-rice-final-normalized-reva.mp3" length="80430593" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:19:47</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>7</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>In the very best version of “third time’s the charm,” we are finally welcoming Christopher Rice to Fated Mates! A man of many talents, he writes fabulous contemporary romances as C. Travis Rice, and suspense, crime and supernatural thrillers as Christopher Rice. Today we’re talking Redemption Romance in honor of his most recent romance release, Sapphire Spring. 

In this episode, we talk about how redemption romances and bully romances work, how tricky they are to write, and why so many of us are so drawn to redemption arcs — particularly when they involve sticking it to our childhood enemies. We had the best time with Christopher, who filled our TBRs…so get ready, because he’s definitely going to fill yours, too.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-fa83f4ef-3f7e-436d-b6bc-bb71cdfc7988.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>Stop Book Banning: A Special Episode of Fated Mates</title><itunes:title>Stop Book Banning: A Special Episode of Fated Mates</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In 2022, book bans in United States schools and libraries are at their highest since the ALA Office of Intellectual Freedom started collecting data. Bans are happening around the country, in every state, and disproportionately affecting books by and about LGBTQIA+ and BIPOC people. What’s more, challenges are likely underreported, because librarians who are resisting them are facing unprecedented workplace retribution and in some cases physical danger.</p><p>Book Bans are on the ballot on November 8th, in every state and local election, up and down the ticket. State legislatures, local town councils, county leadership and school boards are being overrun with candidates supported by conservative activists looking to limit access to books and ideas that offer identity, empathy, awareness, and power to young people around the country. </p><p>We’re concerned, so today, we’re releasing a special episode of Fated Mates focused on book bans across the country. We interview three experts on what’s happening, who is most impacted, and how we can all help. Show notes are extensive, and we hope you’ll take a look at them. </p><p>Thank you to librarians, teachers, and kids and families who are standing up and speaking out. We are proud to stand with you. </p><p><strong>Guests</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.jarrettdapier.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jarett Dapier</a>, librarian, activist and author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3dXFTmd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Mr. Watson’s Chickens</em></a> </p><p>Lily Freeman, activist and student in Central Bucks County, PA. <a href="https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/commentary/central-bucks-trans-teen-lgbtq-book-ban-20220908.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Read Lily’s op-ed</a> in the Philadelphia Inquirer and follow her instagram at <a href="https://www.instagram.com/projectuncensored/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ProjectUncensored</a>.</p><p><a href="http://www.melissacwalker.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Melissa Walker</a>, political activist at <a href="https://statesproject.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The States Project</a>, journalist, and <a href="https://amzn.to/3RpEAtL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Middle Grade and YA author</a> of <em>Violet on the Runway</em>, <em>Let’s Pretend We Never Met</em>, <em>Small Town Sinners </em>and more. </p><p><strong>Resources</strong></p><p><a href="https://ncac.org/youth-censorship-database" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Youth Censorship Database</a> at the National Coalition Against Censorship</p><p><a href="https://bookriot.com/category/censorship/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book Riot’s censorship coverage</a> is excellent and updated almost daily. They have an excellent explainer for <a href="https://bookriot.com/anti-censorship-groups/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">how to find and develop a local anti-censorship group</a></p><p><a href="https://www.oif.ala.org/oif/intellectual-freedom-news-8-26-2022/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Intellectual Round Table Freedom Blog</a>: an exhaustive list of links related to news about challenges, censorship, and banning incidents, developing issues, and controversies that is updated weekly</p><p><a href="https://pen.org/report/banned-usa-growing-movement-to-censor-books-in-schools/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">PEN America’s data on School Book Bans</a> and <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Tj5WQVBmB6SQg-zP_M8uZsQQGH09TxmBY73v23zpyr0/edit#gid=1505554870" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Index of Educational Gag Orders</a></p><p><a href="https://www.ala.org/tools/challengesupport" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">American Library Association’s Office for Intellectual Freedom</a>, full of resources and toolkits on challenges and how to combat them</p><p><a href="https://whyy.org/articles/central-bucks-schools-book-ban-policy/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What’s happening in Central Bucks County, PA</a> is happening all over the country. Kids, families and educators are <a href="https://www.inquirer.com/news/banned-books-doylestown-parade-censorship-20220925.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">protesting loudly</a></p><p><a href="https://Advocatesforinclusiveeducation.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Advocates for Inclusive Education</a>, for more information on what’s happening on the ground in Bucks County, PA</p><p>A <a href="https://guides.library.illinois.edu/c.php?g=348306&amp;p=2346985" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">map from ALA Banned Books week at the University of Illinois Library</a>, and another from <a href="https://redwine.blue/bbb/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Red Wine &amp; Blue</a>. </p><p>Teens around the country can <a href="https://www.bklynlibrary.org/media/press/brooklyn-public-library-94" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">get library cards from the Brooklyn Public Library</a>. To apply for the card, teens can send a note to <a href="mailto:BooksUnbanned@bklynlibrary.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">BooksUnbanned@bklynlibrary.org</a>, or via the Library’s s teen-run Instagram account, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/bklynfuture/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@bklynfuture</a>. The $50 fee normally associated with out-of-state cards will be waived</p><p>Learn more about the <a href="https://redwine.blue/bbb/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book Ban Busters at Red Wine &amp; Blue</a>.</p><p><a href="https://ballotpedia.org/Sample_Ballot_Lookup" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ballotpedia</a> is a resource for your local ballot and your local election maps</p><p><a href="https://vote.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vote.org</a>, to check your voter registration, locate your voting place and more</p><p><strong>How to Help</strong></p><p>Educate yourself about the book challenge process in your school district: How it works, who sits on the book challenge committee, how those committee members are appointed.</p><p>If there are <a href="https://guides.library.illinois.edu/c.php?g=348306&amp;p=2346985" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">book bans and protests in your school district</a>, attend local school board meetings and support students, teachers &amp; librarians who are speaking up. </p><p>Tell your local public and school librarians they have your support. Write letters. Visit the library. Thank them for standing for intellectual freedom.</p><p><a href="https://ballotpedia.org/Sample_Ballot_Lookup" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Research school board candidates in your district</a>. Vote accordingly. </p><p>Consider <a href="https://runforsomething.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">running for something!</a> Your school board and your state legislature need you! Consider this us telling you seven times! (We’ll phonebank for you!) </p><p>Vote to <a href="https://statesproject.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">flip your state legislature blue.</a> Rally your friends to join you in <a href="https://statesproject.org/get-involved/giving-circles/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a Giving Circle at the States Project</a>.</p><p>Donate to organizations (listed below) that support intellectual freedom and combat book bans. </p><p><strong>Organizations to Support (and Volunteer with)</strong></p><p>You can join <a href="https://pen.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">PenAmerica</a>, and your membership helps defend free expression, support persecuted writers, and promote literary culture.</p><p>Donate to the <a href="http://ftrf.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Freedom To Read Foundation</a> and become a member. The Freedom To Read Foundation effectively conducts important first amendment legal work regarding book bans and censorship.</p><p><a href="https://glsen.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">GLSEN</a>, Creating a Better World for LGBTQ Students</p><p><a href="https://ec.ala.org/donation/OIF-0606-ENDOWM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Intellectual Freedom Endowment Fund</a> at the American Library Association</p><p><a href="https://ncac.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The National Coalition Against Censorship</a>, providing direct intervention for people and groups facing censorship</p><p><a href="https://statesproject.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The States Project</a>, helping to flip (or keep) state legislatures blue</p><p><a href="https://thetrevorproject.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Trevor Project</a>, supporting LGBTQ young people 24/7, all year round</p><p><a href="https://www.webelieveineducation.org/about/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">We Believe in Education</a>, a movement of parents and families fighting for students’ freedom to learn</p><p><strong>The Most Banned Books of 2021</strong></p><p><strong><em>Gender Queer</em> by Maia Kobabe</strong></p><p>Reasons: Banned, challenged, and restricted for LGBTQIA+ content, and because it was considered to have sexually explicit images</p><p><strong><em>Lawn Boy</em> by Jonathan Evison</strong></p><p>Reasons: Banned and challenged for LGBTQIA+ content and because it was considered to be sexually explicit</p><p><strong><em>All Boys Aren’t Blue</em> by George M. Johnson</strong></p><p>Reasons: Banned and challenged for LGBTQIA+ content, profanity, and because it was considered to be sexually explicit</p><p><strong><em>Out of Darkness</em> by Ashley Hope Perez</strong></p><p>Reasons: Banned, challenged, and restricted for depictions of abuse and because it was considered to be sexually explicit</p><p><strong><em>The Hate U Give</em> by Angie Thomas</strong></p><p>Reasons: Banned and challenged for...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 2022, book bans in United States schools and libraries are at their highest since the ALA Office of Intellectual Freedom started collecting data. Bans are happening around the country, in every state, and disproportionately affecting books by and about LGBTQIA+ and BIPOC people. What’s more, challenges are likely underreported, because librarians who are resisting them are facing unprecedented workplace retribution and in some cases physical danger.</p><p>Book Bans are on the ballot on November 8th, in every state and local election, up and down the ticket. State legislatures, local town councils, county leadership and school boards are being overrun with candidates supported by conservative activists looking to limit access to books and ideas that offer identity, empathy, awareness, and power to young people around the country. </p><p>We’re concerned, so today, we’re releasing a special episode of Fated Mates focused on book bans across the country. We interview three experts on what’s happening, who is most impacted, and how we can all help. Show notes are extensive, and we hope you’ll take a look at them. </p><p>Thank you to librarians, teachers, and kids and families who are standing up and speaking out. We are proud to stand with you. </p><p><strong>Guests</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.jarrettdapier.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jarett Dapier</a>, librarian, activist and author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3dXFTmd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Mr. Watson’s Chickens</em></a> </p><p>Lily Freeman, activist and student in Central Bucks County, PA. <a href="https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/commentary/central-bucks-trans-teen-lgbtq-book-ban-20220908.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Read Lily’s op-ed</a> in the Philadelphia Inquirer and follow her instagram at <a href="https://www.instagram.com/projectuncensored/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ProjectUncensored</a>.</p><p><a href="http://www.melissacwalker.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Melissa Walker</a>, political activist at <a href="https://statesproject.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The States Project</a>, journalist, and <a href="https://amzn.to/3RpEAtL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Middle Grade and YA author</a> of <em>Violet on the Runway</em>, <em>Let’s Pretend We Never Met</em>, <em>Small Town Sinners </em>and more. </p><p><strong>Resources</strong></p><p><a href="https://ncac.org/youth-censorship-database" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Youth Censorship Database</a> at the National Coalition Against Censorship</p><p><a href="https://bookriot.com/category/censorship/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book Riot’s censorship coverage</a> is excellent and updated almost daily. They have an excellent explainer for <a href="https://bookriot.com/anti-censorship-groups/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">how to find and develop a local anti-censorship group</a></p><p><a href="https://www.oif.ala.org/oif/intellectual-freedom-news-8-26-2022/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Intellectual Round Table Freedom Blog</a>: an exhaustive list of links related to news about challenges, censorship, and banning incidents, developing issues, and controversies that is updated weekly</p><p><a href="https://pen.org/report/banned-usa-growing-movement-to-censor-books-in-schools/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">PEN America’s data on School Book Bans</a> and <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Tj5WQVBmB6SQg-zP_M8uZsQQGH09TxmBY73v23zpyr0/edit#gid=1505554870" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Index of Educational Gag Orders</a></p><p><a href="https://www.ala.org/tools/challengesupport" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">American Library Association’s Office for Intellectual Freedom</a>, full of resources and toolkits on challenges and how to combat them</p><p><a href="https://whyy.org/articles/central-bucks-schools-book-ban-policy/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What’s happening in Central Bucks County, PA</a> is happening all over the country. Kids, families and educators are <a href="https://www.inquirer.com/news/banned-books-doylestown-parade-censorship-20220925.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">protesting loudly</a></p><p><a href="https://Advocatesforinclusiveeducation.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Advocates for Inclusive Education</a>, for more information on what’s happening on the ground in Bucks County, PA</p><p>A <a href="https://guides.library.illinois.edu/c.php?g=348306&amp;p=2346985" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">map from ALA Banned Books week at the University of Illinois Library</a>, and another from <a href="https://redwine.blue/bbb/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Red Wine &amp; Blue</a>. </p><p>Teens around the country can <a href="https://www.bklynlibrary.org/media/press/brooklyn-public-library-94" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">get library cards from the Brooklyn Public Library</a>. To apply for the card, teens can send a note to <a href="mailto:BooksUnbanned@bklynlibrary.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">BooksUnbanned@bklynlibrary.org</a>, or via the Library’s s teen-run Instagram account, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/bklynfuture/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@bklynfuture</a>. The $50 fee normally associated with out-of-state cards will be waived</p><p>Learn more about the <a href="https://redwine.blue/bbb/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book Ban Busters at Red Wine &amp; Blue</a>.</p><p><a href="https://ballotpedia.org/Sample_Ballot_Lookup" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ballotpedia</a> is a resource for your local ballot and your local election maps</p><p><a href="https://vote.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vote.org</a>, to check your voter registration, locate your voting place and more</p><p><strong>How to Help</strong></p><p>Educate yourself about the book challenge process in your school district: How it works, who sits on the book challenge committee, how those committee members are appointed.</p><p>If there are <a href="https://guides.library.illinois.edu/c.php?g=348306&amp;p=2346985" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">book bans and protests in your school district</a>, attend local school board meetings and support students, teachers &amp; librarians who are speaking up. </p><p>Tell your local public and school librarians they have your support. Write letters. Visit the library. Thank them for standing for intellectual freedom.</p><p><a href="https://ballotpedia.org/Sample_Ballot_Lookup" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Research school board candidates in your district</a>. Vote accordingly. </p><p>Consider <a href="https://runforsomething.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">running for something!</a> Your school board and your state legislature need you! Consider this us telling you seven times! (We’ll phonebank for you!) </p><p>Vote to <a href="https://statesproject.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">flip your state legislature blue.</a> Rally your friends to join you in <a href="https://statesproject.org/get-involved/giving-circles/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a Giving Circle at the States Project</a>.</p><p>Donate to organizations (listed below) that support intellectual freedom and combat book bans. </p><p><strong>Organizations to Support (and Volunteer with)</strong></p><p>You can join <a href="https://pen.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">PenAmerica</a>, and your membership helps defend free expression, support persecuted writers, and promote literary culture.</p><p>Donate to the <a href="http://ftrf.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Freedom To Read Foundation</a> and become a member. The Freedom To Read Foundation effectively conducts important first amendment legal work regarding book bans and censorship.</p><p><a href="https://glsen.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">GLSEN</a>, Creating a Better World for LGBTQ Students</p><p><a href="https://ec.ala.org/donation/OIF-0606-ENDOWM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Intellectual Freedom Endowment Fund</a> at the American Library Association</p><p><a href="https://ncac.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The National Coalition Against Censorship</a>, providing direct intervention for people and groups facing censorship</p><p><a href="https://statesproject.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The States Project</a>, helping to flip (or keep) state legislatures blue</p><p><a href="https://thetrevorproject.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Trevor Project</a>, supporting LGBTQ young people 24/7, all year round</p><p><a href="https://www.webelieveineducation.org/about/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">We Believe in Education</a>, a movement of parents and families fighting for students’ freedom to learn</p><p><strong>The Most Banned Books of 2021</strong></p><p><strong><em>Gender Queer</em> by Maia Kobabe</strong></p><p>Reasons: Banned, challenged, and restricted for LGBTQIA+ content, and because it was considered to have sexually explicit images</p><p><strong><em>Lawn Boy</em> by Jonathan Evison</strong></p><p>Reasons: Banned and challenged for LGBTQIA+ content and because it was considered to be sexually explicit</p><p><strong><em>All Boys Aren’t Blue</em> by George M. Johnson</strong></p><p>Reasons: Banned and challenged for LGBTQIA+ content, profanity, and because it was considered to be sexually explicit</p><p><strong><em>Out of Darkness</em> by Ashley Hope Perez</strong></p><p>Reasons: Banned, challenged, and restricted for depictions of abuse and because it was considered to be sexually explicit</p><p><strong><em>The Hate U Give</em> by Angie Thomas</strong></p><p>Reasons: Banned and challenged for profanity, violence, and because it was thought to promote an anti-police message and indoctrination of a social agenda</p><p><strong><em>The Absolutely True Diary of a Part-Time Indian</em> by Sherman Alexie</strong></p><p>Reasons: Banned and challenged for profanity, sexual references and use of a derogatory term</p><p><strong><em>Me and Earl and the Dying Girl</em> by Jesse Andrews</strong></p><p>Reasons: Banned and challenged because it was considered sexually explicit and degrading to women</p><p><strong><em>The Bluest Eye</em> by Toni Morrison</strong></p><p>Reasons: Banned and challenged because it depicts child sexual abuse and was considered sexually explicit</p><p><strong><em>This Book is Gay</em> by Juno Dawson</strong></p><p>Reasons: Banned, challenged, relocated, and restricted for providing sexual education and LGBTQIA+ content.</p><p><strong><em>Beyond Magenta</em> by Susan Kuklin</strong></p><p>Reasons: Banned and challenged for LGBTQIA+ content and because it was considered to be sexually explicit.</p><p>Find more info and more books from this episode at <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fatedmates.net</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:6339a863a8d02e0255b9ad39</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/cd494fbe-de1e-46a7-9e34-6939a82441de/fm-special.jpg"/><pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2022 18:11:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/ec9d41ba-2cd0-47a9-a8a4-58c1c0b4699f/fated-mates-stop-book-banning.mp3" length="117655226" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:59:28</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>6</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>In 2022, book bans in United States schools and libraries are at their highest since the ALA Office of Intellectual Freedom started collecting data. Bans are happening around the country, in every state, and disproportionately affecting books by and about LGBTQIA+ and BIPOC people. What’s more, challenges are likely underreported, because librarians who are resisting them are facing unprecedented workplace retribution and in some cases physical danger.

Book Bans are on the ballot on November 8th, in every state and local election, up and down the ticket. State legislatures, local town councils, county leadership and school boards are being overrun with candidates supported by conservative activists looking to limit access to books and ideas that offer identity, empathy, awareness, and power to young people around the country. 

We’re concerned, so today, we’re releasing a special episode of Fated Mates focused on book bans across the country. We interview three experts on what’s happening, who is most impacted, and how we can all help. Show notes are extensive, and we hope you’ll take a look at them. 

Thank you to librarians, teachers, and kids and families who are standing up and speaking out. We are proud to stand with you.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-ec9d41ba-2cd0-47a9-a8a4-58c1c0b4699f.json" type="application/json+chapters"/><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="video/youtube" title="Stop Book Banning: A Special Episode of Fated Mates"><podcast:source uri="https://youtu.be/QbaQbGwHmno"/></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>S05.05: Moonstruck: A Wolf Without a Foot Redux!</title><itunes:title>Moonstruck: A Wolf Without a Foot Redux!</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It’s our 200th Episode and we’re finally doing the thing we’ve been talking about doing for 200 episodes! A full deep dive into one of our favorite — or possibly our favorite! — romcoms…Moonstruck! Moonstruck was released December 18th, 1987, one day after Sarah turned nine…auspicious Sagittarius energy! It’s set in Brooklyn, is a perfect romance novel on film, and features more than one wolf, bewitched by the full moon. It is everything.</p><p>Go watch it (you won’t be sorry), then come back here and listen to us wax poetic about it. </p><p>Thank you for being with us for 200 episodes…you’re the moonlight in our martini.   </p><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>Moonstruck was released on Dec 18, 1987. It was nominated for several oscars. Cher won for best actress, Olympia Dukakis for best supporting actress, and Best Original Screenplay for John Patrick Shanley.</li><li><a href="https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/movies/a34691455/moonstruck-italian-american-movie-essay/?scrlybrkr=958e9960" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Everyone loves Moonstruck</a> and there are lots of fun <a href="https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/84010/13-enchanting-facts-about-moonstruck" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">listicles</a> and <a href="https://2020.cinepunx.com/we-are-here-to-love-the-wrong-people-and-die-romance-and-mortality-in-moonstruck/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">essays</a> about the movie. Here’s <a href="https://twitter.com/vulture/status/1246210882348212227?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a great thread from Vulture</a> where a movie critic named Rachel Handler live-tweeted a rewatch.</li><li>Most of the film’s <a href="https://youtu.be/v9t7PMToEoE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">exteriors were filmed in Brooklyn</a>, but many interiors were shot <a href="https://torontoist.com/2011/07/reel_toronto_cinematic_classic_grab-bag/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">in Toronto.</a></li><li>Sarah mentioned an essay by Emily VanDerWerff, <a href="https://www.criterion.com/current/posts/7192-moonstruck-life-in-the-in-between" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Moonstruck: Life in the In-Between</em></a>, about the beauty shop scene and how it can be analyzed as showing the power of the female gaze in Moonstruck.</li><li>The last scene at the breakfast table is a good example of <a href="https://thedramateacher.com/farce/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">farce</a>. An article about the making of Moonstruck and <a href="https://thewalrus.ca/the-making-of-moonstruck/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the ending scene played in the style of a farce</a>, with lots of cool info on Loretta's grandfather, played by Feodor Chaliapin Jr.</li><li>Jen liked all <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1578910561797959680?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">that moon stuff</a>. </li><li>When Cher won the Oscar, she was wearing <a href="https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2022/02/awards-insider-the-making-of-chers-oscar-revenge-dress" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a very memorable dress</a>. May we all vow to live our 40s with her as our guide.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/11/s0505-were-moonstruck-on-our-200th-episode </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s our 200th Episode and we’re finally doing the thing we’ve been talking about doing for 200 episodes! A full deep dive into one of our favorite — or possibly our favorite! — romcoms…Moonstruck! Moonstruck was released December 18th, 1987, one day after Sarah turned nine…auspicious Sagittarius energy! It’s set in Brooklyn, is a perfect romance novel on film, and features more than one wolf, bewitched by the full moon. It is everything.</p><p>Go watch it (you won’t be sorry), then come back here and listen to us wax poetic about it. </p><p>Thank you for being with us for 200 episodes…you’re the moonlight in our martini.   </p><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>Moonstruck was released on Dec 18, 1987. It was nominated for several oscars. Cher won for best actress, Olympia Dukakis for best supporting actress, and Best Original Screenplay for John Patrick Shanley.</li><li><a href="https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/movies/a34691455/moonstruck-italian-american-movie-essay/?scrlybrkr=958e9960" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Everyone loves Moonstruck</a> and there are lots of fun <a href="https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/84010/13-enchanting-facts-about-moonstruck" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">listicles</a> and <a href="https://2020.cinepunx.com/we-are-here-to-love-the-wrong-people-and-die-romance-and-mortality-in-moonstruck/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">essays</a> about the movie. Here’s <a href="https://twitter.com/vulture/status/1246210882348212227?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a great thread from Vulture</a> where a movie critic named Rachel Handler live-tweeted a rewatch.</li><li>Most of the film’s <a href="https://youtu.be/v9t7PMToEoE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">exteriors were filmed in Brooklyn</a>, but many interiors were shot <a href="https://torontoist.com/2011/07/reel_toronto_cinematic_classic_grab-bag/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">in Toronto.</a></li><li>Sarah mentioned an essay by Emily VanDerWerff, <a href="https://www.criterion.com/current/posts/7192-moonstruck-life-in-the-in-between" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Moonstruck: Life in the In-Between</em></a>, about the beauty shop scene and how it can be analyzed as showing the power of the female gaze in Moonstruck.</li><li>The last scene at the breakfast table is a good example of <a href="https://thedramateacher.com/farce/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">farce</a>. An article about the making of Moonstruck and <a href="https://thewalrus.ca/the-making-of-moonstruck/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the ending scene played in the style of a farce</a>, with lots of cool info on Loretta's grandfather, played by Feodor Chaliapin Jr.</li><li>Jen liked all <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1578910561797959680?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">that moon stuff</a>. </li><li>When Cher won the Oscar, she was wearing <a href="https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2022/02/awards-insider-the-making-of-chers-oscar-revenge-dress" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a very memorable dress</a>. May we all vow to live our 40s with her as our guide.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/11/s0505-were-moonstruck-on-our-200th-episode </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/11/s0505-were-moonstruck-on-our-200th-episode]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:6345548d3cf5527bfc0ec1ea</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2022 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/416020ac-7ad3-4678-bbbc-5bf1c4344354/fated-mates-episode-200-moonstruck.mp3" length="100086418" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:34:49</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>5</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>It’s our 200th Episode and we’re finally doing the thing we’ve been talking about doing for 200 episodes! A full deep dive into one of our favorite — or possibly our favorite! — romcoms…Moonstruck! Moonstruck was released December 18th, 1987, one day after Sarah turned nine…auspicious Sagittarius energy! It’s set in Brooklyn, is a perfect romance novel on film, and features more than one wolf, bewitched by the full moon. It is everything.

Go watch it (you won’t be sorry), then come back here and listen to us wax poetic about it. 

Thank you for being with us for 200 episodes…you’re the moonlight in our martini.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-416020ac-7ad3-4678-bbbc-5bf1c4344354.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S05.04: What to Read If You Liked The Love Hypothesis...</title><itunes:title>What to Read If You Liked The Love Hypothesis...</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Today we start one of our new features for Season Five: <em>If You Liked…Read This</em>! We begin with Ali Hazelwood’s <em>The Love Hypothesis</em>, a book that took romance and BookTok by storm last year when it burst onto the NYT best seller list and hung out there for nearly a year, bringing so many new readers (and Reylos!) to romance. </p><p>This one is full of tropes romance loves, and we take them topic by topic, recommending read alikes for everything from grumpy/sunshine, to academic romance, to STEM heroines, to that spicy sex scene that was a delightfully unexpected surprise! That, and we’ve got a bunch of Reylo fic recommended from Ali herself (check the end of show notes)!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li><a href="https://www.byrdie.com/how-much-do-tattoos-cost-4782019" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tattoos are expensive</a>! </li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/Voyyqk2UaxA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReyLo</a> is the ship name for Kylo Ren and Rey from the Star Wars movies. And the actor who plays Kylo Ren is <a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3485845/bio?scrlybrkr=958e9960" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adam Driver</a>. </li><li>All about <a href="https://www.teenvogue.com/story/what-is-pansexuality" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pansexuality</a>.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_on_TikTok?scrlybrkr=958e9960" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Censorship on TikTok</a> is so widespread is has its own wikipedia page, which makes it rife for <a href="https://www.law.uh.edu/news/fall2021/1222TikTok.asp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">misinformation about sex and sex education.</a></li><li>Small point of order, <a href="https://www.lpi.usra.edu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen was at the LPI (Lunar and Planetary Institute)</a>, which is close to the Johnson NASA Space Center in Houston. Obviously, she wasn’t at the <a href="https://www.jpl.nasa.gov" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">JPL (Jet Propulsion Laboratory)</a>, because that’s in California. </li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/4/what-to-read-if-you-liked-the-love-hypothesis </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today we start one of our new features for Season Five: <em>If You Liked…Read This</em>! We begin with Ali Hazelwood’s <em>The Love Hypothesis</em>, a book that took romance and BookTok by storm last year when it burst onto the NYT best seller list and hung out there for nearly a year, bringing so many new readers (and Reylos!) to romance. </p><p>This one is full of tropes romance loves, and we take them topic by topic, recommending read alikes for everything from grumpy/sunshine, to academic romance, to STEM heroines, to that spicy sex scene that was a delightfully unexpected surprise! That, and we’ve got a bunch of Reylo fic recommended from Ali herself (check the end of show notes)!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li><a href="https://www.byrdie.com/how-much-do-tattoos-cost-4782019" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tattoos are expensive</a>! </li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/Voyyqk2UaxA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReyLo</a> is the ship name for Kylo Ren and Rey from the Star Wars movies. And the actor who plays Kylo Ren is <a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3485845/bio?scrlybrkr=958e9960" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adam Driver</a>. </li><li>All about <a href="https://www.teenvogue.com/story/what-is-pansexuality" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pansexuality</a>.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_on_TikTok?scrlybrkr=958e9960" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Censorship on TikTok</a> is so widespread is has its own wikipedia page, which makes it rife for <a href="https://www.law.uh.edu/news/fall2021/1222TikTok.asp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">misinformation about sex and sex education.</a></li><li>Small point of order, <a href="https://www.lpi.usra.edu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen was at the LPI (Lunar and Planetary Institute)</a>, which is close to the Johnson NASA Space Center in Houston. Obviously, she wasn’t at the <a href="https://www.jpl.nasa.gov" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">JPL (Jet Propulsion Laboratory)</a>, because that’s in California. </li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/4/what-to-read-if-you-liked-the-love-hypothesis </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/4/what-to-read-if-you-liked-the-love-hypothesis]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:633c23562cecf544ed773c08</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2022 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/5709f0a6-db3c-4edd-bd24-816430d9cda3/fated-mates-if-you-liked-the-love-hypothesis-reva.mp3" length="66293467" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:05:10</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>4</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Today we start one of our new features for Season Five: If You Liked…Read This! We begin with Ali Hazelwood’s The Love Hypothesis, a book that took romance and BookTok by storm last year when it burst onto the NYT best seller list and hung out there for nearly a year, bringing so many new readers (and Reylos!) to romance. 

This one is full of tropes romance loves, and we take them topic by topic, recommending read alikes for everything from grumpy/sunshine, to academic romance, to STEM heroines, to that spicy sex scene that was a delightfully unexpected surprise! That, and we’ve got a bunch of Reylo fic recommended from Ali herself (check the end of show notes)!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-5709f0a6-db3c-4edd-bd24-816430d9cda3.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S05.03: Marrying Winterborne by Lisa Kleypas: A Professional Driver on a Closed Course</title><itunes:title>Marrying Winterborne by Lisa Kleypas: A Professional Driver on a Closed Course</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It’s official! Sarah has broken the glass and taken Marrying Winterborne out of the vault and she has exactly as much to say about it as you expect! We’re talking perfect heroes, heroines who deserve to be revered, brilliant writers and plots that require the kind of skill you only get with Lisa Kleypas. Rhys Winterborne is nearly crushed by a building and still shows up at traditional calling hours (with 30 minutes to spare) to propose. An absolute king.</p><p>Thanks to Lucy Leroux, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3xEW6mS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Making Her His</em></a><em>,</em> and Emjoy for sponsoring the episode. Visit <a href="http://letsemjoy.com/mates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">letsemjoy.com/mates</a> to access your 14-day free trial.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Maybe you’d like a very fast-talking man to describe the organization and countries of the United Kingdom to you, so <a href="https://youtu.be/rNu8XDBSn10" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">watch this video</a> Jen shows her students. </li><li><a href="https://www.vice.com/en/article/xgzm3a/why-england-sucks-according-to-wales-scotland-northern-ireland" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rhys Winterborne isn’t the only one</a> who thinks Wales is better than England.</li><li>Along with being a guy you definitely wouldn’t want to be your dad, <a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Albion" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the word Albion</a> means England.</li><li>They say <a href="https://www.greekmythology.com/Myths/Mortals/Helen/helen.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Helen of Troy</a> started a whole war, but probably a bunch of dudes were just looking for something to fight about. </li><li>The <a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/health-wellness/2022/08/31/comprehensive-sex-education-americans-misled/7887152001/?gnt-cfr=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">state of Sex Education</a> in America is bad and <a href="https://nursing.usc.edu/blog/americas-sex-education/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">getting worse</a>. </li><li>The <a href="https://www.celticjewelry.com/celtic-culture/the-oathing-stone" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">oathing stone</a> in weddings, and <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1j4a8RZvuF0tbMOcU-xo-OBl5uGrddDa_/view?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rhys’s description of the word hiraeth</a>, along with the TikTok Sarah mentioned.</li><li>We partnered with The Bawdy Bookworms, and selected A Caribbean Heiress in Paris as the book! <a href="https://bawdybookworms.com/bawdy-bookworms-quarterly/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Check it out!</a></li><li>Join us this weekend and every Saturday between now and the midterms as <a href="https://www.fatedmates.net/fatedstates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">we phonebank</a> for Democratic candidates.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/9/24/s0503-marrying-winterborne-by-lisa-kleypas </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s official! Sarah has broken the glass and taken Marrying Winterborne out of the vault and she has exactly as much to say about it as you expect! We’re talking perfect heroes, heroines who deserve to be revered, brilliant writers and plots that require the kind of skill you only get with Lisa Kleypas. Rhys Winterborne is nearly crushed by a building and still shows up at traditional calling hours (with 30 minutes to spare) to propose. An absolute king.</p><p>Thanks to Lucy Leroux, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3xEW6mS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Making Her His</em></a><em>,</em> and Emjoy for sponsoring the episode. Visit <a href="http://letsemjoy.com/mates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">letsemjoy.com/mates</a> to access your 14-day free trial.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Maybe you’d like a very fast-talking man to describe the organization and countries of the United Kingdom to you, so <a href="https://youtu.be/rNu8XDBSn10" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">watch this video</a> Jen shows her students. </li><li><a href="https://www.vice.com/en/article/xgzm3a/why-england-sucks-according-to-wales-scotland-northern-ireland" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rhys Winterborne isn’t the only one</a> who thinks Wales is better than England.</li><li>Along with being a guy you definitely wouldn’t want to be your dad, <a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Albion" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the word Albion</a> means England.</li><li>They say <a href="https://www.greekmythology.com/Myths/Mortals/Helen/helen.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Helen of Troy</a> started a whole war, but probably a bunch of dudes were just looking for something to fight about. </li><li>The <a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/health-wellness/2022/08/31/comprehensive-sex-education-americans-misled/7887152001/?gnt-cfr=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">state of Sex Education</a> in America is bad and <a href="https://nursing.usc.edu/blog/americas-sex-education/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">getting worse</a>. </li><li>The <a href="https://www.celticjewelry.com/celtic-culture/the-oathing-stone" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">oathing stone</a> in weddings, and <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1j4a8RZvuF0tbMOcU-xo-OBl5uGrddDa_/view?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rhys’s description of the word hiraeth</a>, along with the TikTok Sarah mentioned.</li><li>We partnered with The Bawdy Bookworms, and selected A Caribbean Heiress in Paris as the book! <a href="https://bawdybookworms.com/bawdy-bookworms-quarterly/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Check it out!</a></li><li>Join us this weekend and every Saturday between now and the midterms as <a href="https://www.fatedmates.net/fatedstates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">we phonebank</a> for Democratic candidates.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/9/24/s0503-marrying-winterborne-by-lisa-kleypas </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/9/24/s0503-marrying-winterborne-by-lisa-kleypas]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:632f8615bdd1660630a4f40c</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/70ee9180-9800-4139-adf5-46fec1de9559/pink-read-along.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2022 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/a4e8fa79-a936-414f-81ac-201c704eb4f4/fated-mates-marrying-winterborne.mp3" length="94229313" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:31:27</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>4</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>It’s official! Sarah has broken the glass and taken Marrying Winterborne out of the vault and she has exactly as much to say about it as you expect! We’re talking perfect heroes, heroines who deserve to be revered, brilliant writers and plots that require the kind of skill you only get with Lisa Kleypas. Rhys Winterborne is nearly crushed by a building and still shows up at traditional calling hours (with 30 minutes to spare) to propose. An absolute king.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-a4e8fa79-a936-414f-81ac-201c704eb4f4.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S05.02: Romance Novel Beginnings: Starting With a Bang!</title><itunes:title>Romance Novel Beginnings: Starting With a Bang!</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Not that kind of bang! We’re talking about beginnings today, on the first interstitial of Season 5! This one edges into a bit more writing shop talk than usual, but we’re still name checking lots of favorite books, many of which we’ve done deep dives on already! So consider this your nudge to go back and read some great books we’ve talked about! Also, Sarah has Covid, Jen’s on the mend, Fated States is back, and next week, we’re reading <em>Marrying Winterborne</em>. </p><p>Thanks to Lucy Leroux, Eva Moore and Torie Jean for sponsoring the episode. Read <a href="https://amzn.to/3xEW6mS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Making Her His</em></a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/3UoRjzN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Caught a Vibe</em></a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/3RZCkul" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Finding Gene Kelly</em></a> now. </p><p>Next week, our first read along of the season is Lisa Kleypas’s <em>Marrying Winterborne. </em>Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3pRFDHM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/marrying-winterborne/id1037881706" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/marrying-winterborne-lisa-kleypas/1122784936" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/marrying-winterborne" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or at <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780062371850" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>.</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/20/should-you-get-your-covid-booster-and-flu-shot-at-the-same-time.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Get boosted!</a></li><li>When a book starts in the middle of the action, it’s called <a href="https://www.britannica.com/art/in-medias-res-literature" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">in medias res</a></li><li>If you’re in MA, check out <a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1572309469434118144?s=20&amp;t=nNxwqdGXMFJfcd1N8E_h_g" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Rom-Con</a>, a full day celebration of “rom”ance at the “Con”cord free public library this Satruday, Sept 24, from 10-3. Tickets are free!</li><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/fatedstates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated States</a> has returned, and it looks like we’ll be phonebanking every Saturday starting Oct 1 through the election.</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not that kind of bang! We’re talking about beginnings today, on the first interstitial of Season 5! This one edges into a bit more writing shop talk than usual, but we’re still name checking lots of favorite books, many of which we’ve done deep dives on already! So consider this your nudge to go back and read some great books we’ve talked about! Also, Sarah has Covid, Jen’s on the mend, Fated States is back, and next week, we’re reading <em>Marrying Winterborne</em>. </p><p>Thanks to Lucy Leroux, Eva Moore and Torie Jean for sponsoring the episode. Read <a href="https://amzn.to/3xEW6mS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Making Her His</em></a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/3UoRjzN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Caught a Vibe</em></a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/3RZCkul" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Finding Gene Kelly</em></a> now. </p><p>Next week, our first read along of the season is Lisa Kleypas’s <em>Marrying Winterborne. </em>Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3pRFDHM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/marrying-winterborne/id1037881706" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/marrying-winterborne-lisa-kleypas/1122784936" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/marrying-winterborne" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or at <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780062371850" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>.</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/20/should-you-get-your-covid-booster-and-flu-shot-at-the-same-time.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Get boosted!</a></li><li>When a book starts in the middle of the action, it’s called <a href="https://www.britannica.com/art/in-medias-res-literature" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">in medias res</a></li><li>If you’re in MA, check out <a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1572309469434118144?s=20&amp;t=nNxwqdGXMFJfcd1N8E_h_g" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Rom-Con</a>, a full day celebration of “rom”ance at the “Con”cord free public library this Satruday, Sept 24, from 10-3. Tickets are free!</li><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/fatedstates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated States</a> has returned, and it looks like we’ll be phonebanking every Saturday starting Oct 1 through the election.</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/9/20/s0502-opening-with-a-bang]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:6329e020e0b6a03dc31c1217</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2022 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/8f243948-7a2a-4ae5-a64a-d6d242516474/fated-mates-romance-novel-beginings.mp3" length="77116528" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:15:40</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>3</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Not that kind of bang! We’re talking about beginnings today, on the first interstitial of Season 5! This one edges into a bit more writing shop talk than usual, but we’re still name checking lots of favorite books, many of which we’ve done deep dives on already! So consider this your nudge to go back and read some great books we’ve talked about! Also, Sarah has Covid, Jen’s on the mend, Fated States is back, and next week, we’re reading Marrying Winterborne.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-8f243948-7a2a-4ae5-a64a-d6d242516474.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S05.01: Season Five! Romance World Domination!</title><itunes:title>S05.01: Season Five! Romance World Domination!</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Season Five starts today, you Magnificent Firebirds!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://fatedmates.net/the-books">Season One</a> gave us a full lAD deep dive (if you’ve never read Kresley Cole’s Immortals After Dark, general existential malaise is a really good reason to start), and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/season-two-books-that-blooded-us">Season Two</a> gave us <em>The Books That Blooded Us</em>&nbsp;-- the books that made us the romance readers we are. <a href="https://fatedmates.net/season-three-back-on-our-bullsht" target="">Season Three</a> was during a pandemic, so just let us live (but also, there was a Roy Kent episode). <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/category/S04">Season Four</a> introduced the Trailblazer episodes, where we featured interviews with the people who have built the romance house over the last fifty years. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Season Five will build on all this — Deep diving on books that are new and fabulous, old and transformative, and generally reveal how vast and magnificent the romance pool can get. We’ve got great interstitials planned, trailblazer episodes already recorded and waiting for you, and a few new episodes that will focus on the books that are putting romance on the map these days…and where readers should go from there. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We’re excited! Aren’t you? Head over to your favorite podcasting app and subscribe so you don’t miss a moment of it!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">In the meantime, today’s episode covers some of the romance new that happened while we were away the publishing DOJ trial, the absolute explosion of great books on August 23rd, and what on earth is happening with TikTok? There's a new theme song! And Jen broke her arm! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Next week is an interstitial, and our first read along of the season is Lisa Kleypas’s <em>Marrying Winterborne. </em>Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3pRFDHM">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/marrying-winterborne/id1037881706">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/marrying-winterborne-lisa-kleypas/1122784936">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/marrying-winterborne">Kobo</a>, or at <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780062371850">your local indie</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you’re in MA, check out <a href="https://www.livingconcord.com/event/rom-con-romance-festival-at-the-concord-free-public-library/">the Rom-Con</a>, a full day celebration of “rom”ance at the “Con”cord free public library on Sept 24.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">That skeleton in your high school <a href="https://www.wnyc.org/story/classroom-skeleton-whose-bones-are-these/">might have been real bones</a>. All about <a href="https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/ulna-and-radius-fractures-forearm-fractures">the radius and the ulna</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://youtu.be/fIiOpQrvbxU">Gross Anatomy</a> was a 1989 movie starring Matthew Modine.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The <a href="https://twitter.com/Fangirl_Musing/status/1567581002964373504?s=20&amp;t=rqoT7aD3srrNL-YOQqqguQ">blood hand job</a> from A Heart of Blood and Ashes continues to amaze new readers, and we are here for it.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Parking at Chicago’s hospitals is so prohibitively expensive that a grieving family created <a href="https://www.jacksonchance.org/why-parking-matters/">The Jackson Chance Foundation</a> to honor the memory of their beloved son who spent all but 48 hours of his life in the NICU. The Jackson Chance Foundation provides parking assistance and transportation at three downtown hospitals where parking can often run almost $100 per day.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">A few <a href="https://www.vox.com/culture/23316541/publishing-antitrust-lawsuit-merger-department-justice-penguin-random-house-simon-schuster">useful explainers</a> we found about the <a href="https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/publisher-news/article/90032-doj-v-prh-all-our-coverage.html">PRH vs DOJ trial</a>, a breakdown of <a href="https://countercraft.substack.com/p/no-most-books-dont-sell-only-a-dozen">why the statistics about books sales are so confusing</a>, and why <a href="https://www.vulture.com/2022/08/penguin-random-house-simon-schuster-antitrust-trial-recap.html">Stephen King was the government’s star witness.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">That <a href="https://www.npr.org/2022/08/29/1119886246/gen-z-is-driving-sales-of-romance-books-to-the-top-of-bestseller-lists">NPR article</a> about TikTok, Gen Z, and romance.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Season Five starts today, you Magnificent Firebirds!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://fatedmates.net/the-books">Season One</a> gave us a full lAD deep dive (if you’ve never read Kresley Cole’s Immortals After Dark, general existential malaise is a really good reason to start), and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/season-two-books-that-blooded-us">Season Two</a> gave us <em>The Books That Blooded Us</em>&nbsp;-- the books that made us the romance readers we are. <a href="https://fatedmates.net/season-three-back-on-our-bullsht" target="">Season Three</a> was during a pandemic, so just let us live (but also, there was a Roy Kent episode). <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/category/S04">Season Four</a> introduced the Trailblazer episodes, where we featured interviews with the people who have built the romance house over the last fifty years. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Season Five will build on all this — Deep diving on books that are new and fabulous, old and transformative, and generally reveal how vast and magnificent the romance pool can get. We’ve got great interstitials planned, trailblazer episodes already recorded and waiting for you, and a few new episodes that will focus on the books that are putting romance on the map these days…and where readers should go from there. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We’re excited! Aren’t you? Head over to your favorite podcasting app and subscribe so you don’t miss a moment of it!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">In the meantime, today’s episode covers some of the romance new that happened while we were away the publishing DOJ trial, the absolute explosion of great books on August 23rd, and what on earth is happening with TikTok? There's a new theme song! And Jen broke her arm! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Next week is an interstitial, and our first read along of the season is Lisa Kleypas’s <em>Marrying Winterborne. </em>Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3pRFDHM">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/marrying-winterborne/id1037881706">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/marrying-winterborne-lisa-kleypas/1122784936">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/marrying-winterborne">Kobo</a>, or at <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780062371850">your local indie</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you’re in MA, check out <a href="https://www.livingconcord.com/event/rom-con-romance-festival-at-the-concord-free-public-library/">the Rom-Con</a>, a full day celebration of “rom”ance at the “Con”cord free public library on Sept 24.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">That skeleton in your high school <a href="https://www.wnyc.org/story/classroom-skeleton-whose-bones-are-these/">might have been real bones</a>. All about <a href="https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/ulna-and-radius-fractures-forearm-fractures">the radius and the ulna</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://youtu.be/fIiOpQrvbxU">Gross Anatomy</a> was a 1989 movie starring Matthew Modine.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The <a href="https://twitter.com/Fangirl_Musing/status/1567581002964373504?s=20&amp;t=rqoT7aD3srrNL-YOQqqguQ">blood hand job</a> from A Heart of Blood and Ashes continues to amaze new readers, and we are here for it.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Parking at Chicago’s hospitals is so prohibitively expensive that a grieving family created <a href="https://www.jacksonchance.org/why-parking-matters/">The Jackson Chance Foundation</a> to honor the memory of their beloved son who spent all but 48 hours of his life in the NICU. The Jackson Chance Foundation provides parking assistance and transportation at three downtown hospitals where parking can often run almost $100 per day.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">A few <a href="https://www.vox.com/culture/23316541/publishing-antitrust-lawsuit-merger-department-justice-penguin-random-house-simon-schuster">useful explainers</a> we found about the <a href="https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/publisher-news/article/90032-doj-v-prh-all-our-coverage.html">PRH vs DOJ trial</a>, a breakdown of <a href="https://countercraft.substack.com/p/no-most-books-dont-sell-only-a-dozen">why the statistics about books sales are so confusing</a>, and why <a href="https://www.vulture.com/2022/08/penguin-random-house-simon-schuster-antitrust-trial-recap.html">Stephen King was the government’s star witness.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">That <a href="https://www.npr.org/2022/08/29/1119886246/gen-z-is-driving-sales-of-romance-books-to-the-top-of-bestseller-lists">NPR article</a> about TikTok, Gen Z, and romance.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/9/11/s0501-welcome-to-season-five]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:631e2a085efa0c3f56d88f5d</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/812e0e15-150a-4aa4-a38e-5f5cbc9c3b53/purple-interstitial.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2022 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/6cf471a9-8ce3-4a52-ae55-3a58ec75ce61/fated-mates-s5e1-revb.mp3" length="73575687" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:13:06</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>1</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Season One gave us a full lAD deep dive (if you’ve never read Kresley Cole’s Immortals After Dark, general existential malaise is a really good reason to start), and Season Two gave us The Books That Blooded Us -- the books that made us the romance readers we are. Season Three was during a pandemic, so just let us live (but also, there was a Roy Kent episode). Season Four introduced the Trailblazer episodes, where we featured interviews with the people who have built the romance house over the last fifty years. 

Season Five will build on all this — Deep diving on books that are new and fabulous, old and transformative, and generally reveal how vast and magnificent the romance pool can get. We’ve got great interstitials planned, trailblazer episodes already recorded and waiting for you, and a few new episodes that will focus on the books that are putting romance on the map these days…and where readers should go from there. 

We’re excited! Aren’t you? Head over to your favorite podcasting app and subscribe so you don’t miss a moment of it!

In the meantime, today’s episode covers some of the romance new that happened while we were away the publishing DOJ trial, the absolute explosion of great books on August 23rd, and what on earth is happening with TikTok? There&apos;s a new theme song! And Jen broke her arm! </itunes:summary></item><item><title>Bonus! Fated Bosoms/Heaving Mates Crossover</title><itunes:title>Bonus! Fated Bosoms/Heaving Mates Crossover</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We’re still on our break (back next week!) but this week we have two episodes coming to your earholes! Today, we’re releasing our crossover episode with the brilliant Melody and Erin of the Heaving Bosoms podcast to talk Burn For Me by Ilona Andrews! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Burn For Me is a longtime favorite of Jen’s and the first book in the Hidden Legacy series and Sarah deeply regrets taking so long to read it because WOW IT IS GREAT. Here is one for the slow burn lovers in the group! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We get to the bottom of sexy times at the mall, whether or not slow burns and lawn mowing go together, and we talk a lot about waterbeds. You’re going to love it. </p><p class="" data-rte-preserve-empty="true" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.heavingbosoms.com">Head over and subscribe to Heaving Bosoms</a>! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Season 5 starts next week! Our first read along of the season is Lisa Kleypas’s <em>Marrying Winterborne. </em>Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3pRFDHM">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/marrying-winterborne/id1037881706">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/marrying-winterborne-lisa-kleypas/1122784936">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/marrying-winterborne">Kobo</a>, or at <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780062371850">your local indie</a>.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We’re still on our break (back next week!) but this week we have two episodes coming to your earholes! Today, we’re releasing our crossover episode with the brilliant Melody and Erin of the Heaving Bosoms podcast to talk Burn For Me by Ilona Andrews! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Burn For Me is a longtime favorite of Jen’s and the first book in the Hidden Legacy series and Sarah deeply regrets taking so long to read it because WOW IT IS GREAT. Here is one for the slow burn lovers in the group! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We get to the bottom of sexy times at the mall, whether or not slow burns and lawn mowing go together, and we talk a lot about waterbeds. You’re going to love it. </p><p class="" data-rte-preserve-empty="true" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.heavingbosoms.com">Head over and subscribe to Heaving Bosoms</a>! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Season 5 starts next week! Our first read along of the season is Lisa Kleypas’s <em>Marrying Winterborne. </em>Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3pRFDHM">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/marrying-winterborne/id1037881706">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/marrying-winterborne-lisa-kleypas/1122784936">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/marrying-winterborne">Kobo</a>, or at <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780062371850">your local indie</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/9/5/fated-bosomsheaving-mates-crossover-episode-on-ilona-andrews-burn-for-me]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:6315f46d8f71a31aac34f0c5</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/d6ffd862-3cb8-40a8-a89a-3dee8378f099/fmcross.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2022 16:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/b577f00f-79ed-4827-9429-98cf1c4c3fde/fated-bosoms-burn-for-me.mp3" length="85286017" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:28:22</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>55</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>55</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We’re still on our break (back next week!) but this week we have two episodes coming to your earholes! Today, we’re releasing our crossover episode with the brilliant Melody and Erin of the Heaving Bosoms podcast to talk Burn For Me by Ilona Andrews! 

Burn For Me is a longtime favorite of Jen’s and the first book in the Hidden Legacy series and Sarah deeply regrets taking so long to read it because WOW IT IS GREAT. Here is one for the slow burn lovers in the group! 

We get to the bottom of sexy times at the mall, whether or not slow burns and lawn mowing go together, and we talk a lot about waterbeds. You’re going to love it </itunes:summary></item><item><title>Bonus! Fated Mates Live in Alexandria, VA</title><itunes:title>Bonus! Fated Mates Live in Alexandria, VA</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We're on hiatus until September 14, when we'll start Season 5, but you won’t miss us, because this week, we have the recording of Fated Mates Live, our first-ever in-person live! Headphones in for this one, y’all. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We were joined in Alexandria, VA by Kate Clayborn, Adriana Herrera, Tracey Livesay, Naima Simone, Ali Hazelwood, Diana Quincy, Andie J. Christopher, and Sophie Jordan, and we had the best time! This audio is imperfect, but there’s so much laughter here — we hope you’ll join us for the next one (which will hopefully be in the spring)…stay tuned on that front! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Be sure to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting app so you know the moment we return.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thanks to Fox &amp; Wit, creators of the <a href="https://foxandwit.com/products/foxglove-before-i-let-go-special-edition-by-kennedy-ryan">Foxglove Special Edition Book Box of Kennedy Ryan's <em>Before I Let Go</em></a><em>, </em>available for preorder now. The box comes with a special edition cover of <em>Before I Let Go</em>, a signed book plate, and a letter from Kennedy herself.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Season 5 starts in two weeks! Our first read along of the season is Lisa Kleypas’s <em>Marrying Winterborne. </em>  Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3pRFDHM">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/marrying-winterborne/id1037881706">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/marrying-winterborne-lisa-kleypas/1122784936">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/marrying-winterborne">Kobo</a>, or at <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780062371850">your local indie</a>.  </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our first in-person Live event was a smashing success! We welcomed Kate Clayborn, Adriana Herrera, Tracey Livesay, Naima Simone, Ali Hazelwood, Diana Quincy, Andie J. Christopher, and Sophie Jordan. Thank you to Old Town Books for partnering with us on this event. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thank you to the audience for their participation! We used a platform called Menti, which turned the screen behind us into an interactive platform (like an Instagram Live) where our audience could respond and comment. If we all have a reaction to something you can't hear....it's because someone in the audience said something brilliantly funny using Menti.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The book Sarah accidentally interstitialed during the recording is <a href="https://amzn.to/3cxW0pS">C.M. Nascosta's <em>Sweet Berries</em></a>.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We're on hiatus until September 14, when we'll start Season 5, but you won’t miss us, because this week, we have the recording of Fated Mates Live, our first-ever in-person live! Headphones in for this one, y’all. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We were joined in Alexandria, VA by Kate Clayborn, Adriana Herrera, Tracey Livesay, Naima Simone, Ali Hazelwood, Diana Quincy, Andie J. Christopher, and Sophie Jordan, and we had the best time! This audio is imperfect, but there’s so much laughter here — we hope you’ll join us for the next one (which will hopefully be in the spring)…stay tuned on that front! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Be sure to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting app so you know the moment we return.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thanks to Fox &amp; Wit, creators of the <a href="https://foxandwit.com/products/foxglove-before-i-let-go-special-edition-by-kennedy-ryan">Foxglove Special Edition Book Box of Kennedy Ryan's <em>Before I Let Go</em></a><em>, </em>available for preorder now. The box comes with a special edition cover of <em>Before I Let Go</em>, a signed book plate, and a letter from Kennedy herself.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Season 5 starts in two weeks! Our first read along of the season is Lisa Kleypas’s <em>Marrying Winterborne. </em>  Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3pRFDHM">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/marrying-winterborne/id1037881706">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/marrying-winterborne-lisa-kleypas/1122784936">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/marrying-winterborne">Kobo</a>, or at <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780062371850">your local indie</a>.  </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our first in-person Live event was a smashing success! We welcomed Kate Clayborn, Adriana Herrera, Tracey Livesay, Naima Simone, Ali Hazelwood, Diana Quincy, Andie J. Christopher, and Sophie Jordan. Thank you to Old Town Books for partnering with us on this event. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thank you to the audience for their participation! We used a platform called Menti, which turned the screen behind us into an interactive platform (like an Instagram Live) where our audience could respond and comment. If we all have a reaction to something you can't hear....it's because someone in the audience said something brilliantly funny using Menti.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The book Sarah accidentally interstitialed during the recording is <a href="https://amzn.to/3cxW0pS">C.M. Nascosta's <em>Sweet Berries</em></a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/8/30/bonus-fated-mates-live-recording]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:630dfe821d4afc7536bb39e6</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/5c325f63-858f-4f14-a9fe-b6245adc2410/gold-live.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2022 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/2bd179c8-c1e9-48ef-abfc-fde78a6b13a0/fated-mates-live-final-reva.mp3" length="106710217" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:50:08</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>54</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>54</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We&apos;re on hiatus until September 14, when we&apos;ll start Season 5, but you won’t miss us, because this week, we have the recording of Fated Mates Live, our first-ever in-person live! Headphones in for this one, y’all. 

We were joined in Alexandria, VA by Kate Clayborn, Adriana Herrera, Tracey Livesay, Naima Simone, Ali Hazelwood, Diana Quincy, Andie J. Christopher, and Sophie Jordan, and we had the best time! This audio is imperfect, but there’s so much laughter here — we hope you’ll join us for the next one (which will hopefully be in the spring)…stay tuned on that front! 

Be sure to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcast app so you know the moment we return.</itunes:summary></item><item><title>S04.49: Heartbreaker: Meet the Hell&apos;s Belles</title><itunes:title>S04.49: Heartbreaker: Meet the Hell&apos;s Belles</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Sarah has a new book out, so as is tradition for our last episode of the season, Jen is playing host, and Sarah is playing guest, and we’re talking about journeys vs. quests, how being a romance heroine is political, and why <em>Heartbreaker</em> just might be Sarah’s most romantic book. It’s mostly a spoiler free episode, but you might prefer to finish your read before listening. Enjoy! And don’t miss the first two chapters of the magnificent <em>Heartbreaker</em> audiobook, narrated by the incomparable Mary Jane Wells, at the end of the episode! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you haven’t purchased <em>Heartbreaker</em> yet, you can get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3qePlVn">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://apple.co/3G9MG4Z">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/HeartbreakerBN">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/HeartbreakerKobo">Kobo</a>, at <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063056787">your local indie</a>, or signed and with special swag (and a Fated Mates sticker!) from Sarah’s local indie, <a href="https://shop.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean">WORD in Brooklyn</a>!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thanks to Alyxandra Harvey, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3JK8R4l"><em>How to Marry a Duke</em></a>; to Amazon’s Kindle Vella, publishers of Rebecca Zanetti’s <a href="https://www.amazon.com/kindle-vella/story/B09L5C69QK?ref=kv_fm_kea"><em>Knife’s Edge, Alaska</em></a> series; and to Lumi Labs, creators of Microdose Gummies, for sponsoring the episode. Use the code FATEDMATES for free shipping and 30% off your first order at <a href="https://microdose.com/">microdose.com</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">This episode wraps up Season 4 of Fated Mates! Jen’s returning Lil’Romance to college, Sarah’s taking a break from social media, and we’ll be back in September with Season 5, which will look similar to Season 4, with read alongs, interstitials, trailblazer episodes and some other fun things we’ve got cooking. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thank you, as always, for listening! Please follow us on your favorite podcasting app, and if you are up for leaving a rating or review there, we would be very grateful.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Next time you’re in Brooklyn, check out <a href="https://centerforfiction.org">The Center for Fiction</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">You can register (it’s free!) to see <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/chicago-public-media-live-at-printers-row-lit-fest-tickets-400943351357?aff=eand">Sarah and Adriana Herrera in conversation with Greta Johnson from the Nerdette Podcast at the Printer’s Row Lit Fest in Chicago</a>. The panel is at 11:30am on Saturday, Sept 10, 2022. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you’re in MA, check out <a href="https://www.livingconcord.com/event/rom-con-romance-festival-at-the-concord-free-public-library/">the Rom-Con</a>, a full day celebration of “rom”ance at the “Con”cord free public library on Sept 24.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Jen’s planning a pilgrimage to <a href="https://www.bookbarnniantic.com">The Book Barn in Niantic CT</a> on Labor Day Weekend.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Pick your local gathering spot: <a href="https://90210.fandom.com/wiki/Peach_Pit">The Peach Pit</a>, <a href="https://friends.fandom.com/wiki/Central_Perk">Central Perk</a>, <a href="https://www.elitedaily.com/entertainment/lukes-diner-gilmore-girls-photos/1634172">Luke’s Diner</a>, or in the MacLeaniverse, The Place.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Every book in the Hell’s Belles series has<a href="https://www.masterclass.com/articles/what-is-a-cold-open"> a cold open.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Adelaide stole <a href="https://youtu.be/rT7sXoOQfPc">the tesseract</a>!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">On TikTok, check out <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@emmkick/video/7097078129369337134?is_from_webapp=1&amp;sender_device=pc&amp;web_id=7026116425816540678">this amazing video by emmkick that compares MacLean to Kleypas</a>, and <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@litandknits/video/7134903130470518062?is_from_webapp=1&amp;sender_device=pc&amp;web_id=7026116425816540678">friend of the pod Brittney</a> has an entire TikTok series about the MacLeaniverse. Start with <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@litandknits/video/7101488468710231339?is_from_webapp=1&amp;sender_device=pc&amp;web_id=7026116425816540678">the first one here.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://wompampsupport.azureedge.net/fetchimage?jpgQuality=100&amp;siteId=7575&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.kym-cdn.com%2Fphotos%2Fimages%2Fnewsfeed%2F001%2F865%2F625%2F043.jpg&amp;v=2&amp;width=700">What’s a Himbo</a>? I bet you’re glad you asked.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Speaking of Kleypas, our first read along for Season Five (what!) will be <a href="https://amzn.to/3dLNzHH"><em>Marrying Winterborne</em></a>, but we recommend that you read <a href="https://amzn.to/3pCYKoL"><em>Cold-Hearted Rake</em></a> first to get “the full Winterborne.”</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Sarah has a new book out, so as is tradition for our last episode of the season, Jen is playing host, and Sarah is playing guest, and we’re talking about journeys vs. quests, how being a romance heroine is political, and why <em>Heartbreaker</em> just might be Sarah’s most romantic book. It’s mostly a spoiler free episode, but you might prefer to finish your read before listening. Enjoy! And don’t miss the first two chapters of the magnificent <em>Heartbreaker</em> audiobook, narrated by the incomparable Mary Jane Wells, at the end of the episode! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you haven’t purchased <em>Heartbreaker</em> yet, you can get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3qePlVn">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://apple.co/3G9MG4Z">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/HeartbreakerBN">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/HeartbreakerKobo">Kobo</a>, at <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063056787">your local indie</a>, or signed and with special swag (and a Fated Mates sticker!) from Sarah’s local indie, <a href="https://shop.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean">WORD in Brooklyn</a>!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thanks to Alyxandra Harvey, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3JK8R4l"><em>How to Marry a Duke</em></a>; to Amazon’s Kindle Vella, publishers of Rebecca Zanetti’s <a href="https://www.amazon.com/kindle-vella/story/B09L5C69QK?ref=kv_fm_kea"><em>Knife’s Edge, Alaska</em></a> series; and to Lumi Labs, creators of Microdose Gummies, for sponsoring the episode. Use the code FATEDMATES for free shipping and 30% off your first order at <a href="https://microdose.com/">microdose.com</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">This episode wraps up Season 4 of Fated Mates! Jen’s returning Lil’Romance to college, Sarah’s taking a break from social media, and we’ll be back in September with Season 5, which will look similar to Season 4, with read alongs, interstitials, trailblazer episodes and some other fun things we’ve got cooking. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thank you, as always, for listening! Please follow us on your favorite podcasting app, and if you are up for leaving a rating or review there, we would be very grateful.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Next time you’re in Brooklyn, check out <a href="https://centerforfiction.org">The Center for Fiction</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">You can register (it’s free!) to see <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/chicago-public-media-live-at-printers-row-lit-fest-tickets-400943351357?aff=eand">Sarah and Adriana Herrera in conversation with Greta Johnson from the Nerdette Podcast at the Printer’s Row Lit Fest in Chicago</a>. The panel is at 11:30am on Saturday, Sept 10, 2022. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you’re in MA, check out <a href="https://www.livingconcord.com/event/rom-con-romance-festival-at-the-concord-free-public-library/">the Rom-Con</a>, a full day celebration of “rom”ance at the “Con”cord free public library on Sept 24.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Jen’s planning a pilgrimage to <a href="https://www.bookbarnniantic.com">The Book Barn in Niantic CT</a> on Labor Day Weekend.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Pick your local gathering spot: <a href="https://90210.fandom.com/wiki/Peach_Pit">The Peach Pit</a>, <a href="https://friends.fandom.com/wiki/Central_Perk">Central Perk</a>, <a href="https://www.elitedaily.com/entertainment/lukes-diner-gilmore-girls-photos/1634172">Luke’s Diner</a>, or in the MacLeaniverse, The Place.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Every book in the Hell’s Belles series has<a href="https://www.masterclass.com/articles/what-is-a-cold-open"> a cold open.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Adelaide stole <a href="https://youtu.be/rT7sXoOQfPc">the tesseract</a>!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">On TikTok, check out <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@emmkick/video/7097078129369337134?is_from_webapp=1&amp;sender_device=pc&amp;web_id=7026116425816540678">this amazing video by emmkick that compares MacLean to Kleypas</a>, and <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@litandknits/video/7134903130470518062?is_from_webapp=1&amp;sender_device=pc&amp;web_id=7026116425816540678">friend of the pod Brittney</a> has an entire TikTok series about the MacLeaniverse. Start with <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@litandknits/video/7101488468710231339?is_from_webapp=1&amp;sender_device=pc&amp;web_id=7026116425816540678">the first one here.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://wompampsupport.azureedge.net/fetchimage?jpgQuality=100&amp;siteId=7575&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.kym-cdn.com%2Fphotos%2Fimages%2Fnewsfeed%2F001%2F865%2F625%2F043.jpg&amp;v=2&amp;width=700">What’s a Himbo</a>? I bet you’re glad you asked.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Speaking of Kleypas, our first read along for Season Five (what!) will be <a href="https://amzn.to/3dLNzHH"><em>Marrying Winterborne</em></a>, but we recommend that you read <a href="https://amzn.to/3pCYKoL"><em>Cold-Hearted Rake</em></a> first to get “the full Winterborne.”</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/8/23/s0449-heartbreaker]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:6304be89dc240d1934baa0a6</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/3d66e5d4-3f46-4802-b7f5-2a5e40c5ab47/fm-heartbreaker-episode.jpeg"/><pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2022 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/9dfacf01-2891-4934-911e-58e7e4636e05/fated-mates-heartbreaker-episode-reva.mp3" length="126421452" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>02:04:37</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>53</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>53</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Sarah has a new book out, so as is tradition for our last episode of the season, Jen is playing host, and Sarah is playing guest, and we’re talking about journeys vs. quests, how being a romance heroine is political, and why Heartbreaker just might be Sarah’s most romantic book. It’s mostly a spoiler free episode, but you might prefer to finish your read before listening. Enjoy! And don’t miss the first two chapters of the magnificent Heartbreaker audiobook, narrated by the incomparable Mary Jane Wells, at the end of the episode! </itunes:summary></item><item><title>S04.48: J. R. Ward: Trailblazer</title><itunes:title>S04.48: J. R. Ward: A Trailblazer Episode</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The final Trailblazer of Season 4 is a very excellent one—we’re welcoming JR Ward to Fated Mates! Best known as the author of The Black Dagger Brotherhood (a series that blooded Jen), JR began her career writing contemporary romances under the name Jessica Bird before turning to the vampires the romance world adores. In this episode, we talk about the twists and turns of her early career, about the influence of her mother and other powerful women in her life, about the business of being JR Ward, about her process of writing the Black Dagger Brotherhood, and about her relationship to her characters.   </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We hope you enjoy this conversation as much as we did, and we are so grateful to JR Ward for spending some time with us.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thanks to Avon Books, publishers of Beverly Jenkins’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3QuB2ad"><em>To Catch a Raven</em></a>, Blackstone Publishing, publishers of Nora Zelevansky’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3R6qDl1"><em>Competitive Grieving</em></a>, and Alyxandra Harvey, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3JK8R4l"><em>How to Marry a Duke</em></a><em>,</em> for sponsoring the episode. Stay tuned at the end of the episode for an audio excerpt of <em>Competitive Grieving</em>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Next week, we finish out Season 4 as is traditional — with a deep dive episode on Sarah’s summer release, <em>Heartbreaker</em>! Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3qePlVn">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://apple.co/3G9MG4Z">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/HeartbreakerBN">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/HeartbreakerKobo">Kobo</a>, at <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063056787">your local indie</a>, or signed and with special swag (and a Fated Mates sticker!) from her local indie, <a href="https://shop.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean">WORD in Brooklyn</a>!  </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Welcome <a href="https://jrward.com">J.R. Ward</a>, author of the Black Dagger Brotherhood, a series of paranormal romances. She also wrote category romance under the name <a href="https://www.fantasticfiction.com/b/jessica-bird/">Jessica Bird.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We did a deep dive of JR Ward's <em>Dark Lover</em> in Season Two. <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/10/20/s027-dark-lover">Listen here</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>People Mentioned:</strong> editor <a href="https://simonandschusterpublishing.com/gallery-books/hannah-braaten.html">Hannah Braaten</a>, publisher <a href="https://simonandschusterpublishing.com/gallery-books/jennifer-bergstrom.html">Jennifer Bergstrom</a>, publicist <a href="https://simonandschusterpublishing.com/gallery-books/andrew-nguyen.html">Andrew Nguyen</a>, editor and publisher <a href="https://youtu.be/SYo3ioK0AkA">Kara Cesare</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Authors Mentioned:</strong> Sherilyn Kenyon, Laurel K. Hamilton, Christine Feehan, Kresley Cole, Nora Roberts, Kristen Ashley, Christopher Rice, and Gena Showalter.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The final Trailblazer of Season 4 is a very excellent one—we’re welcoming JR Ward to Fated Mates! Best known as the author of The Black Dagger Brotherhood (a series that blooded Jen), JR began her career writing contemporary romances under the name Jessica Bird before turning to the vampires the romance world adores. In this episode, we talk about the twists and turns of her early career, about the influence of her mother and other powerful women in her life, about the business of being JR Ward, about her process of writing the Black Dagger Brotherhood, and about her relationship to her characters.   </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We hope you enjoy this conversation as much as we did, and we are so grateful to JR Ward for spending some time with us.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thanks to Avon Books, publishers of Beverly Jenkins’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3QuB2ad"><em>To Catch a Raven</em></a>, Blackstone Publishing, publishers of Nora Zelevansky’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3R6qDl1"><em>Competitive Grieving</em></a>, and Alyxandra Harvey, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3JK8R4l"><em>How to Marry a Duke</em></a><em>,</em> for sponsoring the episode. Stay tuned at the end of the episode for an audio excerpt of <em>Competitive Grieving</em>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Next week, we finish out Season 4 as is traditional — with a deep dive episode on Sarah’s summer release, <em>Heartbreaker</em>! Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3qePlVn">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://apple.co/3G9MG4Z">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/HeartbreakerBN">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/HeartbreakerKobo">Kobo</a>, at <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063056787">your local indie</a>, or signed and with special swag (and a Fated Mates sticker!) from her local indie, <a href="https://shop.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean">WORD in Brooklyn</a>!  </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Welcome <a href="https://jrward.com">J.R. Ward</a>, author of the Black Dagger Brotherhood, a series of paranormal romances. She also wrote category romance under the name <a href="https://www.fantasticfiction.com/b/jessica-bird/">Jessica Bird.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We did a deep dive of JR Ward's <em>Dark Lover</em> in Season Two. <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/10/20/s027-dark-lover">Listen here</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>People Mentioned:</strong> editor <a href="https://simonandschusterpublishing.com/gallery-books/hannah-braaten.html">Hannah Braaten</a>, publisher <a href="https://simonandschusterpublishing.com/gallery-books/jennifer-bergstrom.html">Jennifer Bergstrom</a>, publicist <a href="https://simonandschusterpublishing.com/gallery-books/andrew-nguyen.html">Andrew Nguyen</a>, editor and publisher <a href="https://youtu.be/SYo3ioK0AkA">Kara Cesare</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Authors Mentioned:</strong> Sherilyn Kenyon, Laurel K. Hamilton, Christine Feehan, Kresley Cole, Nora Roberts, Kristen Ashley, Christopher Rice, and Gena Showalter.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/8/16/s0448-j-r-ward-a-trailblazer-episode]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:62fbea4c9d6e9461857bf78b</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/48f3af4b-8491-425c-9e41-54d4482d6c64/red-trailblazers.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2022 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/2a9ba05e-d292-4577-b51f-fd22a5b6c25b/fated-mates-jr-ward-trailblazer-revb.mp3" length="101829108" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:41:04</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>52</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>52</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>The final Trailblazer of Season 4 is a very excellent one—we’re welcoming JR Ward to Fated Mates! Best known as the author of The Black Dagger Brotherhood (a series that blooded Jen), JR began her career writing contemporary romances under the name Jessica Bird before turning to the vampires the romance world adores. In this episode, we talk about the twists and turns of her early career, about the influence of her mother and other powerful women in her life, about the business of being JR Ward, about her process of writing the Black Dagger Brotherhood, and about her relationship to her characters.   </itunes:summary></item><item><title>S04.47: Antiheroines in Romance</title><itunes:title>Antiheroines in Romance</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Our final interstitial of Season 4 and we’re talking Antiheroines! If she’s a criminal, a grifter, a villain or a generally bad dude, we’re here for her, we support her, and we’re rooting for her to fall in love! Today we’re talking about the way antiheroines play in romance, about how we hold them to different standards than antiheroes (it’s the patriarchy, that’s why!), and about why they seem to be more prevalent in historicals and paranormals than they are in contemporaries. Please tell us about all the bad b*tches in books you love so we can love them, too! </p><p>Thanks to Alyxandra Harvey, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3JK8R4l" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>How to Marry a Duke</em></a>, and Lumi Labs, creators of Microdose Gummies, for sponsoring the episode. Use the code FATEDMATES for free shipping and 30% off your first order at <a href="https://microdose.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">microdose.com</a>.</p><p>Next week, we have a trailblazer (so exciting!), and then we will finish out Season 4 as is traditional — with a deep dive episode on Sarah’s summer release, <em>Heartbreaker</em>! Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3qePlVn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://apple.co/3G9MG4Z" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/HeartbreakerBN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/HeartbreakerKobo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, at <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063056787" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>, or signed and with special swag (and a Fated Mates sticker!) from her local indie, <a href="https://shop.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">WORD in Brooklyn</a>!  </p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><ul><li>Lots of housekeeping this week: Bookstore Romance Day is coming! We will be hosting a kickoff event online with Christina Lauren and C. Travis Rice. <a href="https://bookstoreromanceday.org/bookstore-romance-day-2022-official-virtual-event-schedule/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Check out the official Bookstore Romance Day site to sign up for any of the virtual panels</a>. If you’re in NY metro area, you can see <a href="https://www.rjjulia.com/event/sarah-maclean-heartbreaker-conversation-tessa-bailey" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah live in conversation with Tessa Bailey at RJ Julia on Saturday, Aug 20, 2022 at 4pm.</a></li><li>Sarah will be on a panel with Adriana Herrera and other authors for <a href="https://printersrowlitfest.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Printer’s Row Lit Fest in Chicago the weekend of Sept 10-11, 2022</a>. Check the site, which should have a schedule of events coming soon. Jen will be in the audience! </li><li>You can preorder <a href="https://shop.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">signed copies of Heartbreaker from Word in Brooklyn</a>, and you can order signed copies from the authors at Fated Mates Live from <a href="https://oldtownbooks.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Old Town Books in Alexandria.</a></li><li>You don’t have the <a href="https://www.libraryextension.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">library extension </a>on chrome yet? You should! </li><li>Here’s an interesting article that <a href="https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2017/01/19/the-antiheroine-unveiled/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tries to define the antiheroine archetype</a>. Check out <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harley_Quinn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Harley Quinn</a> from movies, and <a href="https://luther.fandom.com/wiki/Alice_Morgan" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alice from the show Luther</a> as examples. </li><li>That article in the Atlantic was called <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/09/romance-novels-women-elinor-glyn-books/670609/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Subversive Power of Romance Novels. </a>The book Sarah talked about is <a href="https://amzn.to/3SP5HR8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Inventing the It Girl: How Elinor Glyn Created the Modern Romance and Conquered Early Hollywood</em></a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/8/8/s0447-antiheroines-in-romance </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our final interstitial of Season 4 and we’re talking Antiheroines! If she’s a criminal, a grifter, a villain or a generally bad dude, we’re here for her, we support her, and we’re rooting for her to fall in love! Today we’re talking about the way antiheroines play in romance, about how we hold them to different standards than antiheroes (it’s the patriarchy, that’s why!), and about why they seem to be more prevalent in historicals and paranormals than they are in contemporaries. Please tell us about all the bad b*tches in books you love so we can love them, too! </p><p>Thanks to Alyxandra Harvey, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3JK8R4l" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>How to Marry a Duke</em></a>, and Lumi Labs, creators of Microdose Gummies, for sponsoring the episode. Use the code FATEDMATES for free shipping and 30% off your first order at <a href="https://microdose.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">microdose.com</a>.</p><p>Next week, we have a trailblazer (so exciting!), and then we will finish out Season 4 as is traditional — with a deep dive episode on Sarah’s summer release, <em>Heartbreaker</em>! Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3qePlVn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://apple.co/3G9MG4Z" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/HeartbreakerBN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/HeartbreakerKobo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, at <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063056787" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>, or signed and with special swag (and a Fated Mates sticker!) from her local indie, <a href="https://shop.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">WORD in Brooklyn</a>!  </p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><ul><li>Lots of housekeeping this week: Bookstore Romance Day is coming! We will be hosting a kickoff event online with Christina Lauren and C. Travis Rice. <a href="https://bookstoreromanceday.org/bookstore-romance-day-2022-official-virtual-event-schedule/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Check out the official Bookstore Romance Day site to sign up for any of the virtual panels</a>. If you’re in NY metro area, you can see <a href="https://www.rjjulia.com/event/sarah-maclean-heartbreaker-conversation-tessa-bailey" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah live in conversation with Tessa Bailey at RJ Julia on Saturday, Aug 20, 2022 at 4pm.</a></li><li>Sarah will be on a panel with Adriana Herrera and other authors for <a href="https://printersrowlitfest.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Printer’s Row Lit Fest in Chicago the weekend of Sept 10-11, 2022</a>. Check the site, which should have a schedule of events coming soon. Jen will be in the audience! </li><li>You can preorder <a href="https://shop.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">signed copies of Heartbreaker from Word in Brooklyn</a>, and you can order signed copies from the authors at Fated Mates Live from <a href="https://oldtownbooks.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Old Town Books in Alexandria.</a></li><li>You don’t have the <a href="https://www.libraryextension.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">library extension </a>on chrome yet? You should! </li><li>Here’s an interesting article that <a href="https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2017/01/19/the-antiheroine-unveiled/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tries to define the antiheroine archetype</a>. Check out <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harley_Quinn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Harley Quinn</a> from movies, and <a href="https://luther.fandom.com/wiki/Alice_Morgan" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alice from the show Luther</a> as examples. </li><li>That article in the Atlantic was called <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/09/romance-novels-women-elinor-glyn-books/670609/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Subversive Power of Romance Novels. </a>The book Sarah talked about is <a href="https://amzn.to/3SP5HR8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Inventing the It Girl: How Elinor Glyn Created the Modern Romance and Conquered Early Hollywood</em></a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/8/8/s0447-antiheroines-in-romance </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/8/8/s0447-antiheroines-in-romance]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:62f134cd397c9602104ffe84</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2022 10:52:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/db51e7af-48e2-422b-90d8-a51634e5fb0b/fated-mates-antiheroines-in-romance.mp3" length="70363150" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:07:37</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>51</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>51</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>It&apos;s our final interstitial of Season 4 and we’re talking antiheroines! If she’s a criminal, a grifter, a villain or a generally bad dude, we’re here for her, we support her, and we’re rooting for her to fall in love! Today we’re talking about the way antiheroines play in romance, about how we hold them to different standards than antiheroes (it’s the patriarchy, that’s why!), and about why they seem to be more prevalent in historicals and paranormals than they are in contemporaries. Please tell us about all the bad b*tches in books you love so we can love them, too!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-db51e7af-48e2-422b-90d8-a51634e5fb0b.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S04.46: Two Girls, One Microphone, Headphones In: Sarah and Jen at Apollycon</title><itunes:title>S04.46: Two Girls, One Microphone, Headphones In: Sarah and Jen at Apollycon</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">You’re getting the full banana this week, y’all, because we were <em>together</em>! Like, actually face to face, across a table in a hotel room! We’re talking Apollycon and Fated Mates Live, answering your questions, recommending fun books, and generally being delightful in your earholes (listen, if we’re not delightful, don’t tell us, we had a great time)!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thanks to Grand Central Publishing, publishers of Farrah Rochon’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3QbV7S0"><em>The Hookup Plan</em></a>, Blair Babylon, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3Qh1Mu2"><em>Rogue</em></a>, and Amazon’s Kindle Vella, publisher of Audrey Carlan’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3SoPtxC"><em>The Marriage Auction</em> </a>series, for sponsoring the episode.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We’ve got interstitials and trailblazers coming your way this month, and we will finish out Season 4 as is traditional — with a deep dive episode on Sarah’s summer release, <em>Heartbreaker</em>! Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3qePlVn">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://apple.co/3G9MG4Z">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/HeartbreakerBN">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/HeartbreakerKobo">Kobo</a>, at <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063056787">your local indie</a>, or signed and with special swag (and a Fated Mates sticker!) from her local indie, <a href="https://shop.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean">WORD in Brooklyn</a>!  </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">You can check out <a href="https://www.steamylit.com">The Steam Box</a>, which is a great romance + toy subscription box. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">A <a href="https://twitter.com/midnight_pals/status/1551952604954931200?s=20&amp;t=_u_gWH1rv4nqQQttwVSM8w">very funny twitter thread</a> about what Mary Shelley might have to say to Joyce Carol Oates. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Speaking of <a href="https://youtu.be/KsdFgC_8pb0">Joe Manganiello</a>, he was <a href="https://www.bet.com/article/ocm9ui/joe-manganiello-finding-your-roots-part-black">in the news this week</a> after finding out about his racial ancestry on the TV show Finding Your Roots.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Sarah says the best feminist double feature is <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLoyU3xYwbs">Magic Mike XXL</a> and <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEJnMQG9ev8">Mad Max Fury Road</a> and you should try it and report back. You can not only <a href="https://amzn.to/3boiicW">watch</a> Mad Max Fury Road, <a href="https://amzn.to/3JnDHQh">you can read about it</a>, too. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Don’t forget to order <a href="https://shop.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean">signed copies of Heartbreaker</a> from Word in Brooklyn.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">You’re getting the full banana this week, y’all, because we were <em>together</em>! Like, actually face to face, across a table in a hotel room! We’re talking Apollycon and Fated Mates Live, answering your questions, recommending fun books, and generally being delightful in your earholes (listen, if we’re not delightful, don’t tell us, we had a great time)!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thanks to Grand Central Publishing, publishers of Farrah Rochon’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3QbV7S0"><em>The Hookup Plan</em></a>, Blair Babylon, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3Qh1Mu2"><em>Rogue</em></a>, and Amazon’s Kindle Vella, publisher of Audrey Carlan’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3SoPtxC"><em>The Marriage Auction</em> </a>series, for sponsoring the episode.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We’ve got interstitials and trailblazers coming your way this month, and we will finish out Season 4 as is traditional — with a deep dive episode on Sarah’s summer release, <em>Heartbreaker</em>! Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3qePlVn">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://apple.co/3G9MG4Z">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/HeartbreakerBN">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/HeartbreakerKobo">Kobo</a>, at <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063056787">your local indie</a>, or signed and with special swag (and a Fated Mates sticker!) from her local indie, <a href="https://shop.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean">WORD in Brooklyn</a>!  </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">You can check out <a href="https://www.steamylit.com">The Steam Box</a>, which is a great romance + toy subscription box. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">A <a href="https://twitter.com/midnight_pals/status/1551952604954931200?s=20&amp;t=_u_gWH1rv4nqQQttwVSM8w">very funny twitter thread</a> about what Mary Shelley might have to say to Joyce Carol Oates. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Speaking of <a href="https://youtu.be/KsdFgC_8pb0">Joe Manganiello</a>, he was <a href="https://www.bet.com/article/ocm9ui/joe-manganiello-finding-your-roots-part-black">in the news this week</a> after finding out about his racial ancestry on the TV show Finding Your Roots.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Sarah says the best feminist double feature is <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLoyU3xYwbs">Magic Mike XXL</a> and <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEJnMQG9ev8">Mad Max Fury Road</a> and you should try it and report back. You can not only <a href="https://amzn.to/3boiicW">watch</a> Mad Max Fury Road, <a href="https://amzn.to/3JnDHQh">you can read about it</a>, too. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Don’t forget to order <a href="https://shop.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean">signed copies of Heartbreaker</a> from Word in Brooklyn.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/8/2/s0446-sarah-and-jen-at-apollycon]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:62e91218f1c69a30a53c9145</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/6cf92635-beb9-476d-91b2-b16bc9a4f6f1/purple-interstitial.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2022 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/587be5cf-c63f-4771-bc18-ed86522a72ef/fated-mates-s04-46-face-to-face.mp3" length="143239715" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>02:23:46</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>50</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>50</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>You’re getting the full banana this week, y’all, because we were together! Like, actually face to face, across a table in a hotel room! We’re talking Apollycon and Fated Mates Live, answering your questions, recommending fun books, and generally being delightful in your earholes (listen, if we’re not delightful, don’t tell us, we had a great time)!</itunes:summary></item><item><title>S04.45: Get a Life, Chloe Brown by Talia Hibbert</title><itunes:title>Get a Life, Chloe Brown by Talia Hibbert</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This week, we’re talking about one of our (and many of your!) favorite recent contemporary romances, Talia Hibbert’s <em>Get a Life, Chloe Brown</em>. We’ve talked about Talia on a number of episodes before, and we’re so happy that our final read-along for Season 4 is this one — which is a straight shot of sexy joy directly into readers’ hearts. Also…these two are so thirsty for each other and it’s great. </p><p>We talk about artists and handymen and cats in trees and heroines with bucket lists who are just a delight. Sarah goes on a Seth MacFarlane tangent, and yes, we’re still cataloguing the greatest romance grandmas around.   </p><p>Fated Mates Live, in person is happening — if you have tickets to the live show in Alexandria, VA on July 30th — <a href="https://twitter.com/FatedMates/status/1537110494292676610" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">let us know on our Twitter thread</a> (and find friends!). If you didn’t get a ticket, but want to order signed books from participating authors, you can do that at <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/fated-mates-live-tickets-353944496517" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Old Town Books</a> in advance of the event! </p><p>Thanks to Alyxandra Harvey, author of, <a href="https://amzn.to/3oAQDIV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>How to Marry a Duke</em></a>, Kate McBrien, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3zwGeUN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>One Night Together</em></a>, and Amazon’s Kindle Vella, publisher of Nikki St. Crowe’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3J8NAkA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Hot Vampire Next Door</em></a> series, for sponsoring the episode.</p><p>We’ve got interstitials and trailblazers coming your way in August, and we will finish out Season 4 as is traditional — with a deep dive episode on Sarah’s summer release, Heartbreaker! Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3qePlVn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://apple.co/3G9MG4Z" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/HeartbreakerBN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/HeartbreakerKobo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, at <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063056787" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>, or signed and with special swag (and a Fated Mates sticker!) from her local indie, <a href="https://shop.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">WORD in Brooklyn</a>!  </p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Get a Life, Chloe Brown is the first book in the Brown Sisters Trilogy by Talia Hibbert. Here’s <a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/news-and-features/articles/talia-hibbert-eve-brown-interview/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a great interview with Talia Hibbert in Kirkus, written by Jen's editor Laurie Muchnik</a>. Jen <a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2017/12/jens-double-review-merry-inkmas-and-bad.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">reviewed some of Talia’s books for The Book Queen</a> back in 2017.</li><li>If you would like to help out with Kansas’s constitutional amendment vote, <a href="https://secure.everyaction.com/p/pxhMyyaMZ0eyrMhpLruvXw2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">you can phone bank on your own with the ACLU</a>. Fated States will return in late August or Early September.</li><li>You can still sign up for Sarah’s <a href="https://www.sarahmaclean.net/mastering-the-art-of-great-conflict-now" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“Mastering the Art of Great Conflict”</a> class! </li><li>Check out all these starred reviews of <a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/sarah-maclean/heartbreaker-maclean/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heartbreaker from Kirkus</a> and <a href="https://www.libraryjournal.com/review/heartbreaker-1790449" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Library Journal</a>. You can order signed copies from <a href="https://shop.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Word in Brooklyn</a>. Um, there are a lot of songs with lyrics about heartbreaker, soulshakers, and lovemakers, but the one Jen was mangling was <a href="https://youtu.be/7Jw4-AEiafg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Don’t Let Go by En Vogue</a>.</li><li>Here’s the story about <a href="https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/family-guy-creator-seth-mcfarlane-escaped-death-because-of-oversleeping.html/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Seth MacFarlane oversleeping on 9/11</a>. </li><li>Here’s a great twitter thread about<a href="https://twitter.com/swingingstorm/status/1549052536245846016?s=20&amp;t=Htt-jD7uP8narwxPLPEKbg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> ableism in fictional characters.</a></li><li>Some great romance grandmas: <a href="https://amzn.to/3Ja2g2R" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gigi</a> in Chloe Brown, <a href="https://amzn.to/3J9YZ3F" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Grandma Frida</a> in the Hidden Legacy Series, <a href="https://amzn.to/3S3EcCV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Genevieve</a> in Lord of Scoundrels, and <a href="https://amzn.to/3cMg081" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Grandma Carol</a> from Every Road to You by Phyllis Bourne.</li><li>Here’s a <a href="https://youtu.be/4NNPGSt2qSE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">quick primer on potential vs kinetic energy</a> in case Jen’s deranged cat explanation didn’t make sense.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/7/26/s0445-get-a-life-chloe-brown-by-talia-hibbert </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, we’re talking about one of our (and many of your!) favorite recent contemporary romances, Talia Hibbert’s <em>Get a Life, Chloe Brown</em>. We’ve talked about Talia on a number of episodes before, and we’re so happy that our final read-along for Season 4 is this one — which is a straight shot of sexy joy directly into readers’ hearts. Also…these two are so thirsty for each other and it’s great. </p><p>We talk about artists and handymen and cats in trees and heroines with bucket lists who are just a delight. Sarah goes on a Seth MacFarlane tangent, and yes, we’re still cataloguing the greatest romance grandmas around.   </p><p>Fated Mates Live, in person is happening — if you have tickets to the live show in Alexandria, VA on July 30th — <a href="https://twitter.com/FatedMates/status/1537110494292676610" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">let us know on our Twitter thread</a> (and find friends!). If you didn’t get a ticket, but want to order signed books from participating authors, you can do that at <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/fated-mates-live-tickets-353944496517" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Old Town Books</a> in advance of the event! </p><p>Thanks to Alyxandra Harvey, author of, <a href="https://amzn.to/3oAQDIV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>How to Marry a Duke</em></a>, Kate McBrien, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3zwGeUN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>One Night Together</em></a>, and Amazon’s Kindle Vella, publisher of Nikki St. Crowe’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3J8NAkA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Hot Vampire Next Door</em></a> series, for sponsoring the episode.</p><p>We’ve got interstitials and trailblazers coming your way in August, and we will finish out Season 4 as is traditional — with a deep dive episode on Sarah’s summer release, Heartbreaker! Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3qePlVn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://apple.co/3G9MG4Z" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/HeartbreakerBN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/HeartbreakerKobo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, at <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063056787" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>, or signed and with special swag (and a Fated Mates sticker!) from her local indie, <a href="https://shop.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">WORD in Brooklyn</a>!  </p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Get a Life, Chloe Brown is the first book in the Brown Sisters Trilogy by Talia Hibbert. Here’s <a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/news-and-features/articles/talia-hibbert-eve-brown-interview/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a great interview with Talia Hibbert in Kirkus, written by Jen's editor Laurie Muchnik</a>. Jen <a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2017/12/jens-double-review-merry-inkmas-and-bad.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">reviewed some of Talia’s books for The Book Queen</a> back in 2017.</li><li>If you would like to help out with Kansas’s constitutional amendment vote, <a href="https://secure.everyaction.com/p/pxhMyyaMZ0eyrMhpLruvXw2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">you can phone bank on your own with the ACLU</a>. Fated States will return in late August or Early September.</li><li>You can still sign up for Sarah’s <a href="https://www.sarahmaclean.net/mastering-the-art-of-great-conflict-now" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“Mastering the Art of Great Conflict”</a> class! </li><li>Check out all these starred reviews of <a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/sarah-maclean/heartbreaker-maclean/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heartbreaker from Kirkus</a> and <a href="https://www.libraryjournal.com/review/heartbreaker-1790449" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Library Journal</a>. You can order signed copies from <a href="https://shop.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Word in Brooklyn</a>. Um, there are a lot of songs with lyrics about heartbreaker, soulshakers, and lovemakers, but the one Jen was mangling was <a href="https://youtu.be/7Jw4-AEiafg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Don’t Let Go by En Vogue</a>.</li><li>Here’s the story about <a href="https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/family-guy-creator-seth-mcfarlane-escaped-death-because-of-oversleeping.html/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Seth MacFarlane oversleeping on 9/11</a>. </li><li>Here’s a great twitter thread about<a href="https://twitter.com/swingingstorm/status/1549052536245846016?s=20&amp;t=Htt-jD7uP8narwxPLPEKbg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> ableism in fictional characters.</a></li><li>Some great romance grandmas: <a href="https://amzn.to/3Ja2g2R" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gigi</a> in Chloe Brown, <a href="https://amzn.to/3J9YZ3F" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Grandma Frida</a> in the Hidden Legacy Series, <a href="https://amzn.to/3S3EcCV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Genevieve</a> in Lord of Scoundrels, and <a href="https://amzn.to/3cMg081" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Grandma Carol</a> from Every Road to You by Phyllis Bourne.</li><li>Here’s a <a href="https://youtu.be/4NNPGSt2qSE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">quick primer on potential vs kinetic energy</a> in case Jen’s deranged cat explanation didn’t make sense.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/7/26/s0445-get-a-life-chloe-brown-by-talia-hibbert </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/7/26/s0445-get-a-life-chloe-brown-by-talia-hibbert]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:62e05e0a0e97a8392a0b9269</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2022 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/806d4c78-2854-4efd-bf90-2420a859a949/fated-mates-talia-hibbert-revc.mp3" length="74877635" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:16:33</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>49</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>49</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>This week, we’re talking about one of our (and many of your!) favorite recent contemporary romances, Talia Hibbert’s Get a Life, Chloe Brown. We’ve talked about Talia on a number of episodes before, and we’re so happy that our final read-along for Season 4 is this one — which is a straight shot of sexy joy directly into readers’ hearts. Also…these two are so thirsty for each other and it’s great. 

We talk about artists and handymen and cats in trees and heroines with bucket lists who are just a delight. Sarah goes on a Seth MacFarlane tangent, and yes, we’re still cataloguing the greatest romance grandmas around.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-806d4c78-2854-4efd-bf90-2420a859a949.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S04.44: Daddy Romance</title><itunes:title>Daddy Romance</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Four seasons in, we’re just throwing caution to the wind now. It’s Daddy week! Yes, that kind of daddy. No, it’s not for everyone, but it is for us and we’re talking about the whys and hows and wtfs herein. Headphones in, <em>obviously</em>.  </p><p>Fated Mates Live, in person is happening — if you have tickets to the live show in Alexandria, VA on July 30th — <a href="https://twitter.com/FatedMates/status/1537110494292676610" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">let us know on our Twitter thread</a> (and find friends!). If you didn’t get a ticket, but want to order signed books from participating authors, you can do that at <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/fated-mates-live-tickets-353944496517" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Old Town </a>Books in advance of the event! </p><p>Thanks to Avon Books, publishers of Charis Michaels’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3Po8oGY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>A Duchess by Midnight</em></a>, and to Juniper Butterworth, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3Py5iAc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Priest Queen</em></a> (Goblins &amp; Cheese, Book 2), for sponsoring the episode. </p><p>Next week, we’ve got another interstitial coming your way, but the final read along of season four, in two weeks, is Talia Hibbert’s <em>Get a Life, Chloe Brown</em>. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3xWmIz4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/get-a-life-chloe-brown-talia-hibbert/1129941473" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/get-a-life-chloe-brown/id1451297951" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/get-a-life-chloe-brown-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>. </p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>It’s Daddy week on Fated Mates. Here’s a few classic articles and explainers that might help you understand the phenomenon: a <a href="https://www.esquire.com/lifestyle/sex/a21529729/internet-daddy-what-is-daddy-explainer/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Daddy explainer from Esquire</a>, an <a href="https://www.thecut.com/article/hola-papi-daddy-kinks.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">advice columnist from The Cut helps you get over your feelings about Daddy Kink</a>, a <a href="https://medium.com/love-emma/what-does-it-take-to-be-a-daddy-51da3d388f8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">woman in a relationship with a Daddy</a> helps you understand the appeal, and why it’s totally find to think <a href="https://www.themarysue.com/oscar-isaac-daddy-sorry-daddy/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Oscar Isaac is the best (stern brunch) Daddy</a>, even if he is having some sort of <a href="https://youtu.be/oU7-KMGZ4bc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Daddy-off with Pedro Pascal. </a></li><li>Sarah’s newest release is Heartbreaker, and it comes out Aug 23, 2022. You can <a href="https://shop.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">preorder signed copies from Word in Brooklyn.</a></li><li>A local Chicago indie, [Women and Children First],<a href="https://www.crowdcast.io/e/romancepanel?utm_campaign=profile&amp;utm_medium=profile_web&amp;utm_source=profile" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">7</a> sponsored a panel on historical romance. <a href="https://www.crowdcast.io/e/romancepanel?utm_campaign=profile&amp;utm_medium=profile_web&amp;utm_source=profile" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">You can watch the recording of Adriana Herrera, Harper St. George, and Joanna Shupe in conversation with Jen.</a></li><li>Tickets for both Apollycon and Fated Mates Live are sold out, but you <a href="https://oldtownbooks.com/lists/lsdfTwBoHGE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">can still get books signed and shipped</a> from: Andie J Christopher, Kate Clayborn, Ali Hazelwood, Adriana Herrera, Tracey Livesay, Sophie Jordan, Diana Quincy, Naima Simone or Sarah by ordering from Old Town Books! </li><li>If you are coming, we hope you’ll say hi! You might also want to <a href="https://www.romancelandiashop.com/product-page/avatar-button" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">order an avatar button from the Romancelandia Shop</a>. </li><li>The TikTok where <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@noahandlori/video/7115558497080659246" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a woman calls her husband Daddy and he’s surprised at how much he likes it</a>. </li><li>Here’s <a href="https://youtu.be/9t1IK_9apWs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bill Pullman’s speech from Independence Day</a>, which is so weirdly hopeful I don’t even know what to say about it.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/7/13/s0444-daddy-romance-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Four seasons in, we’re just throwing caution to the wind now. It’s Daddy week! Yes, that kind of daddy. No, it’s not for everyone, but it is for us and we’re talking about the whys and hows and wtfs herein. Headphones in, <em>obviously</em>.  </p><p>Fated Mates Live, in person is happening — if you have tickets to the live show in Alexandria, VA on July 30th — <a href="https://twitter.com/FatedMates/status/1537110494292676610" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">let us know on our Twitter thread</a> (and find friends!). If you didn’t get a ticket, but want to order signed books from participating authors, you can do that at <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/fated-mates-live-tickets-353944496517" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Old Town </a>Books in advance of the event! </p><p>Thanks to Avon Books, publishers of Charis Michaels’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3Po8oGY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>A Duchess by Midnight</em></a>, and to Juniper Butterworth, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3Py5iAc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Priest Queen</em></a> (Goblins &amp; Cheese, Book 2), for sponsoring the episode. </p><p>Next week, we’ve got another interstitial coming your way, but the final read along of season four, in two weeks, is Talia Hibbert’s <em>Get a Life, Chloe Brown</em>. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3xWmIz4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/get-a-life-chloe-brown-talia-hibbert/1129941473" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/get-a-life-chloe-brown/id1451297951" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/get-a-life-chloe-brown-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>. </p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>It’s Daddy week on Fated Mates. Here’s a few classic articles and explainers that might help you understand the phenomenon: a <a href="https://www.esquire.com/lifestyle/sex/a21529729/internet-daddy-what-is-daddy-explainer/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Daddy explainer from Esquire</a>, an <a href="https://www.thecut.com/article/hola-papi-daddy-kinks.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">advice columnist from The Cut helps you get over your feelings about Daddy Kink</a>, a <a href="https://medium.com/love-emma/what-does-it-take-to-be-a-daddy-51da3d388f8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">woman in a relationship with a Daddy</a> helps you understand the appeal, and why it’s totally find to think <a href="https://www.themarysue.com/oscar-isaac-daddy-sorry-daddy/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Oscar Isaac is the best (stern brunch) Daddy</a>, even if he is having some sort of <a href="https://youtu.be/oU7-KMGZ4bc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Daddy-off with Pedro Pascal. </a></li><li>Sarah’s newest release is Heartbreaker, and it comes out Aug 23, 2022. You can <a href="https://shop.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">preorder signed copies from Word in Brooklyn.</a></li><li>A local Chicago indie, [Women and Children First],<a href="https://www.crowdcast.io/e/romancepanel?utm_campaign=profile&amp;utm_medium=profile_web&amp;utm_source=profile" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">7</a> sponsored a panel on historical romance. <a href="https://www.crowdcast.io/e/romancepanel?utm_campaign=profile&amp;utm_medium=profile_web&amp;utm_source=profile" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">You can watch the recording of Adriana Herrera, Harper St. George, and Joanna Shupe in conversation with Jen.</a></li><li>Tickets for both Apollycon and Fated Mates Live are sold out, but you <a href="https://oldtownbooks.com/lists/lsdfTwBoHGE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">can still get books signed and shipped</a> from: Andie J Christopher, Kate Clayborn, Ali Hazelwood, Adriana Herrera, Tracey Livesay, Sophie Jordan, Diana Quincy, Naima Simone or Sarah by ordering from Old Town Books! </li><li>If you are coming, we hope you’ll say hi! You might also want to <a href="https://www.romancelandiashop.com/product-page/avatar-button" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">order an avatar button from the Romancelandia Shop</a>. </li><li>The TikTok where <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@noahandlori/video/7115558497080659246" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a woman calls her husband Daddy and he’s surprised at how much he likes it</a>. </li><li>Here’s <a href="https://youtu.be/9t1IK_9apWs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bill Pullman’s speech from Independence Day</a>, which is so weirdly hopeful I don’t even know what to say about it.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/7/13/s0444-daddy-romance-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/7/13/s0444-daddy-romance-interstitial]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:62cf40e86d0fb1312f338bc9</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2022 03:30:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/9f836702-c1a6-4bb4-b1b1-4d5957561f62/fated-mates-daddy-reva.mp3" length="76667546" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:14:29</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>48</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>48</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Four seasons in, we’re just throwing caution to the wind now. It’s Daddy week! Yes, that kind of daddy. No, it’s not for everyone, but it is for us and we’re talking about the whys and hows and wtfs herein. Headphones in, obviously.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-9f836702-c1a6-4bb4-b1b1-4d5957561f62.json" type="application/json+chapters"/><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="video/youtube" title="S04.44: Daddy Romance"><podcast:source uri="https://youtu.be/LRQXYU3gpdg"/></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>S04.43: [Sex on the] Beach Reads</title><itunes:title>S04.43: [Sex on the] Beach Reads</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It’s July, which means it is officially summer reading time in the northern hemisphere! We’re so excited to share this week’s episode, in which we talk about Beach Reads that aren’t just beach reads but are actually beach reads, by which we mean, romances in which the characters — *ahem* — on the beach. It’s all part of the service we provide here at Fated Mates. We’re taking little trips to Spindle Cove and Lucky Harbor before we take a tour of some very naughty beaches indeed. We hope you’ve got 🔥🔥 beach plans this summer! </p><p>Fated Mates Live, in person is happening — if you have tickets to the live show in Alexandria, VA on July 30th — <a href="https://twitter.com/FatedMates/status/1537110494292676610" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">let us know on our Twitter thread</a> (and find friends!). If you didn’t get a ticket, but want to order signed books from participating authors, you can do that at <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/fated-mates-live-tickets-353944496517" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Old Town </a>Books in advance of the event! </p><p>Thanks to Avon Books, publishers of Tracey Livesay’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3z2I6nS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>American Royalty</em></a>, and to Julie Puckrin, creator of <a href="https://www.paramountplus.com/shows/skymed/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>SkyMed</em></a> for CBS Studios and Paramount+. </p><p>Next week, we’ve got another interstitial coming your way, but the final read along of season four, in two weeks, is Talia Hibbert’s <em>Get a Life, Chloe Brown</em>. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3xWmIz4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/get-a-life-chloe-brown-talia-hibbert/1129941473" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/get-a-life-chloe-brown/id1451297951" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/get-a-life-chloe-brown-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>. </p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><ul><li>Humidity is terrible! And it really does <a href="https://www.wikihow.com/Dry-Clothes-in-a-Humid-Climate" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">make it difficult to line dry clothes</a> if you're into that sort of thing.</li><li>You can see Sarah at <a href="https://jenniferlarmentrout.com/apollycon2022lineups/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apollycon</a> (Jen will be there, but at the bar); Fated Mates Live in Alexandria is sold out; and <a href="https://shop.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">preorder signed copies of Heartbreaker from Word in Brooklyn</a>. You can also sign up for <a href="https://www.sarahmaclean.net/mastering-the-art-of-great-conflict-now" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah's conflict in romance class</a>, which will be happening virtually the first week of August. </li><li>Jen is looking to do a book event at <a href="https://www.wesleyanrjjulia.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">RJ Julia in Middletown CT</a>, or anywhere in CT. Even better if it’s Labor Day weekend. For reasons.</li><li>The <a href="https://www.krmg.com/entertainment/pineapple-is-symbol-hospitality-swingers/VXWFKZ46TFESBLZ3EZBVDE7YHA/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">pineapple thing</a> and the <a href="http://www.tipsfromtown.com/umm-youll-never-guess-what-your-lawn-furniture-might-say-about-you/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adirondack chairs</a> thing.</li><li>Seal training is called <a href="https://navyseals.com/buds/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">BUD/S</a>. Sure.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/7/12/s0443-sex-on-the-beach-reads </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s July, which means it is officially summer reading time in the northern hemisphere! We’re so excited to share this week’s episode, in which we talk about Beach Reads that aren’t just beach reads but are actually beach reads, by which we mean, romances in which the characters — *ahem* — on the beach. It’s all part of the service we provide here at Fated Mates. We’re taking little trips to Spindle Cove and Lucky Harbor before we take a tour of some very naughty beaches indeed. We hope you’ve got 🔥🔥 beach plans this summer! </p><p>Fated Mates Live, in person is happening — if you have tickets to the live show in Alexandria, VA on July 30th — <a href="https://twitter.com/FatedMates/status/1537110494292676610" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">let us know on our Twitter thread</a> (and find friends!). If you didn’t get a ticket, but want to order signed books from participating authors, you can do that at <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/fated-mates-live-tickets-353944496517" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Old Town </a>Books in advance of the event! </p><p>Thanks to Avon Books, publishers of Tracey Livesay’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3z2I6nS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>American Royalty</em></a>, and to Julie Puckrin, creator of <a href="https://www.paramountplus.com/shows/skymed/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>SkyMed</em></a> for CBS Studios and Paramount+. </p><p>Next week, we’ve got another interstitial coming your way, but the final read along of season four, in two weeks, is Talia Hibbert’s <em>Get a Life, Chloe Brown</em>. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3xWmIz4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/get-a-life-chloe-brown-talia-hibbert/1129941473" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/get-a-life-chloe-brown/id1451297951" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/get-a-life-chloe-brown-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>. </p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><ul><li>Humidity is terrible! And it really does <a href="https://www.wikihow.com/Dry-Clothes-in-a-Humid-Climate" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">make it difficult to line dry clothes</a> if you're into that sort of thing.</li><li>You can see Sarah at <a href="https://jenniferlarmentrout.com/apollycon2022lineups/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apollycon</a> (Jen will be there, but at the bar); Fated Mates Live in Alexandria is sold out; and <a href="https://shop.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">preorder signed copies of Heartbreaker from Word in Brooklyn</a>. You can also sign up for <a href="https://www.sarahmaclean.net/mastering-the-art-of-great-conflict-now" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah's conflict in romance class</a>, which will be happening virtually the first week of August. </li><li>Jen is looking to do a book event at <a href="https://www.wesleyanrjjulia.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">RJ Julia in Middletown CT</a>, or anywhere in CT. Even better if it’s Labor Day weekend. For reasons.</li><li>The <a href="https://www.krmg.com/entertainment/pineapple-is-symbol-hospitality-swingers/VXWFKZ46TFESBLZ3EZBVDE7YHA/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">pineapple thing</a> and the <a href="http://www.tipsfromtown.com/umm-youll-never-guess-what-your-lawn-furniture-might-say-about-you/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adirondack chairs</a> thing.</li><li>Seal training is called <a href="https://navyseals.com/buds/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">BUD/S</a>. Sure.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/7/12/s0443-sex-on-the-beach-reads </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/7/12/s0443-sex-on-the-beach-reads]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:62cd6e5c73cd256c3a688777</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2022 12:51:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/5e12f59d-e2cc-44ac-871f-111a441a7c10/fated-mates-sex-on-the-beach-reads.mp3" length="68204474" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:05:38</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>47</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>47</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>It’s July, which means it is officially summer reading time in the northern hemisphere! We’re so excited to share this week’s episode, in which we talk about Beach Reads that aren’t just beach reads but are actually beach reads, by which we mean, romances in which the characters — *ahem* — on the beach. It’s all part of the service we provide here at Fated Mates. We’re taking little trips to Spindle Cove and Lucky Harbor before we take a tour of some very naughty beaches indeed. We hope you’ve got  beach plans this summer!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-5e12f59d-e2cc-44ac-871f-111a441a7c10.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S04.42: Brenda Jackson: Trailblazer</title><itunes:title>S04.42: Brenda Jackson: A Trailblazer Episode</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our Trailblazer episodes continue this week with Brenda Jackson, contemporary romance juggernaut, the first African American romance novelist to hit the New York Times and USA Today bestseller lists, and the author of more than 140 romance novels.  </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">In this episode, we talk about her journey to romance writing — from writing in high school for her friends, while parenting, while thriving in a completely different career. We also discuss her career at multiple publishing houses including BET Arabesque, Silhouette Desire, Kimani, Mira, HQN, and now, with her own publishing company. We also talk about Brenda Jackson’s legendary families — the Westmorelands, the Steeles, the Madarises and the Grangers — about her relationship to readers, about her writing, about covers, about why 36 is a magic age in romance, and about keeping romance alive beyond the pages.  </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We are thrilled to share this incredible conversation with all of you, and we are so grateful to Brenda Jackson for taking time to talk with us.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thanks to Blair Babylon, author of Blair Babylon, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3NLP19a"><em>Once Upon a Time</em></a>, and Lumi Labs, creators of Microdose Gummies, for sponsoring the episode. Visit <a href="https://microdose.com/">microdose.com</a> and use the code FATEDMATES<br>for 30% off and free shipping on your order. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Interstitial next week, but our next read along is Talia Hibbert’s <em>Get a Life, Chloe Brown</em>. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3xWmIz4">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/get-a-life-chloe-brown-talia-hibbert/1129941473">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/get-a-life-chloe-brown/id1451297951">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/get-a-life-chloe-brown-1">Kobo</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Welcome Brenda Jackson, author of over 140 romance novels, with more than 15 million copies of her books in print. Her first romance, <em>Tonight and Forever</em>, was published in August of 1995 and there was <a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://drive.google.com/file/d/18_KeROhmN1_hHKqarCuaasn53uBVJtid/view?usp=sharing">a short bio of both Brenda and author Angela Benson</a> in that month's <em>Romantic Times</em>, and her <a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZQG86ElP2nb-Aq5M0E6oBiNHIbKJG86v/view?usp=sharing">2001 novel A Family Renuion was the cover story</a>. RT also covered <a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VpA85GxThaBlfcCFRj315T12eG2wlAxx/view?usp=sharing">the launch of the Kensington Arabesque line in 1994</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Several authors mentioned in today's episode were also guests on the Black Romance Podcast: <a href="https://blackromancepodcast.libsyn.com/brenda-jackson-part-one">Brenda Jackson</a>, <a href="https://blackromancepodcast.libsyn.com/gwendolyn-poughgwyneth-bolton">Gwyneth Bolton</a>, <a href="https://blackromancepodcast.libsyn.com/rochelle-alers">Rochelle Alers</a>, </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">In November of 2021, <a href="https://deadline.com/2021/11/brenda-jackson-author-cartel-options-novels-bobby-smith-jr-to-produce-1234871612/">Brenda Jackson signed a deal with The Cartel to bring 25 of her books to the screen.</a> You can learn more about <em>Truly Everlasting</em>, <a href="http://trulyeverlasting.com">the film Jackson financed, here</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">People Mentioned: Romantic Times publisher <a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/2018/05/last-rt-kathryn-falk-announces-end-romantic-times/">Kathryn Falk</a>, editor <a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://www.encyclopedia.com/education/news-wires-white-papers-and-books/harris-monica-1968">Monica Harris</a>, publisher <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/08/business/media/08zacharius.html">Walter Zacharius</a>, General <a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://www.britannica.com/biography/William-Westmoreland">William Westmoreland</a>, author <a href="http://www.gwynneforster.com">Gwynne Forster</a>, author <a href="https://www.fantasticfiction.com/k/marcia-king-gamble/">Marcia King-Gamble</a>, author <a href="https://harpercollins.co.uk/blogs/authors/gwyneth-bolton">Gwyneth Bolton</a>, author <a href="https://rochellealers.org">Rochelle Alers</a>, publisher and editor <a href="https://authorlink.com/news-and-views/news/harlequin-enterprises-purchases-assets-of-bet-books-2/">Linda Gill</a>, editor <a href="https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/print/20100222/42157-kimani-press-offers-fantasy-fulfillment.html">Glenda Howard</a>, and editor Mavis Allen.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our Trailblazer episodes continue this week with Brenda Jackson, contemporary romance juggernaut, the first African American romance novelist to hit the New York Times and USA Today bestseller lists, and the author of more than 140 romance novels.  </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">In this episode, we talk about her journey to romance writing — from writing in high school for her friends, while parenting, while thriving in a completely different career. We also discuss her career at multiple publishing houses including BET Arabesque, Silhouette Desire, Kimani, Mira, HQN, and now, with her own publishing company. We also talk about Brenda Jackson’s legendary families — the Westmorelands, the Steeles, the Madarises and the Grangers — about her relationship to readers, about her writing, about covers, about why 36 is a magic age in romance, and about keeping romance alive beyond the pages.  </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We are thrilled to share this incredible conversation with all of you, and we are so grateful to Brenda Jackson for taking time to talk with us.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thanks to Blair Babylon, author of Blair Babylon, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3NLP19a"><em>Once Upon a Time</em></a>, and Lumi Labs, creators of Microdose Gummies, for sponsoring the episode. Visit <a href="https://microdose.com/">microdose.com</a> and use the code FATEDMATES<br>for 30% off and free shipping on your order. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Interstitial next week, but our next read along is Talia Hibbert’s <em>Get a Life, Chloe Brown</em>. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3xWmIz4">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/get-a-life-chloe-brown-talia-hibbert/1129941473">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/get-a-life-chloe-brown/id1451297951">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/get-a-life-chloe-brown-1">Kobo</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Welcome Brenda Jackson, author of over 140 romance novels, with more than 15 million copies of her books in print. Her first romance, <em>Tonight and Forever</em>, was published in August of 1995 and there was <a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://drive.google.com/file/d/18_KeROhmN1_hHKqarCuaasn53uBVJtid/view?usp=sharing">a short bio of both Brenda and author Angela Benson</a> in that month's <em>Romantic Times</em>, and her <a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZQG86ElP2nb-Aq5M0E6oBiNHIbKJG86v/view?usp=sharing">2001 novel A Family Renuion was the cover story</a>. RT also covered <a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VpA85GxThaBlfcCFRj315T12eG2wlAxx/view?usp=sharing">the launch of the Kensington Arabesque line in 1994</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Several authors mentioned in today's episode were also guests on the Black Romance Podcast: <a href="https://blackromancepodcast.libsyn.com/brenda-jackson-part-one">Brenda Jackson</a>, <a href="https://blackromancepodcast.libsyn.com/gwendolyn-poughgwyneth-bolton">Gwyneth Bolton</a>, <a href="https://blackromancepodcast.libsyn.com/rochelle-alers">Rochelle Alers</a>, </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">In November of 2021, <a href="https://deadline.com/2021/11/brenda-jackson-author-cartel-options-novels-bobby-smith-jr-to-produce-1234871612/">Brenda Jackson signed a deal with The Cartel to bring 25 of her books to the screen.</a> You can learn more about <em>Truly Everlasting</em>, <a href="http://trulyeverlasting.com">the film Jackson financed, here</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">People Mentioned: Romantic Times publisher <a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/2018/05/last-rt-kathryn-falk-announces-end-romantic-times/">Kathryn Falk</a>, editor <a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://www.encyclopedia.com/education/news-wires-white-papers-and-books/harris-monica-1968">Monica Harris</a>, publisher <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/08/business/media/08zacharius.html">Walter Zacharius</a>, General <a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://www.britannica.com/biography/William-Westmoreland">William Westmoreland</a>, author <a href="http://www.gwynneforster.com">Gwynne Forster</a>, author <a href="https://www.fantasticfiction.com/k/marcia-king-gamble/">Marcia King-Gamble</a>, author <a href="https://harpercollins.co.uk/blogs/authors/gwyneth-bolton">Gwyneth Bolton</a>, author <a href="https://rochellealers.org">Rochelle Alers</a>, publisher and editor <a href="https://authorlink.com/news-and-views/news/harlequin-enterprises-purchases-assets-of-bet-books-2/">Linda Gill</a>, editor <a href="https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/print/20100222/42157-kimani-press-offers-fantasy-fulfillment.html">Glenda Howard</a>, and editor Mavis Allen.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/7/4/s0442-brenda-jackson-a-trailblazer-episode]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:62c2ff83dbc9513b653fd4a9</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/f9fe2bc2-e534-4c6b-8c30-3ed13f3268bd/red-trailblazers.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2022 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/895685f1-9a12-4408-bcad-282d5485f9d5/fated-mates-trailblazer-brenda-jackson.mp3" length="101866179" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:41:36</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>46</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>46</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Our Trailblazer episodes continue this week with Brenda Jackson, contemporary romance juggernaut, the first African American romance novelist to hit the New York Times and USA Today bestseller lists, and the author of more than 140 romance novels.  

In this episode, we talk about her journey to romance writing — from writing in high school for her friends, while parenting, while thriving in a completely different career. We also discuss her career at multiple publishing houses including BET Arabesque, Silhouette Desire, Kimani, Mira, HQN, and now, with her own publishing company. We also talk about Brenda Jackson’s legendary families — the Westmorelands, the Steeles, the Madarises and the Grangers — about her relationship to readers, about her writing, about covers, about why 36 is a magic age in romance, and about keeping romance alive beyond the pages.  

We are thrilled to share this incredible conversation with all of you, and we are so grateful to Brenda Jackson for taking time to talk with us.</itunes:summary></item><item><title>S04.41: Unputdownable Romance Novels</title><itunes:title>Unputdownable Romance Novels</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We don’t even know, y’all, so this week, we’re doing a little bit of flailing and a lot of talking about books we found unputdownable when we read them the first time. We did our very best to avoid repeats — which is difficult this many episodes in! We talk about what makes a book unputdownable (we’ve got buckets!) and about other things too…like our annual reader survey and how skilled a musician Sarah is. </p><p>Fated Mates Live, in person is happening — if you have tickets to the live show in Alexandria, VA on July 30th — <a href="https://twitter.com/FatedMates/status/1537110494292676610" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">let us know on our Twitter thread</a> (and find friends!). If you didn’t get a ticket, but want to join the wait list, you can do that at<a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/fated-mates-live-tickets-353944496517" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Old Town Books</a>!  The event is <em>mask required</em>, so plan accordingly!</p><p>Thanks to Avon Books, publishers of Julie Anne Long’s <a href="https://amzn.to/39ZozuZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>You Were Made to Be Mine</em></a>, and to Leighann Hart, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3xZet5f" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Darling Descent</em></a>, for sponsoring the episode. </p><p>Next week, we’ve got a Trailblazer coming your way, but our next read along is Talia Hibbert’s <em>Get a Life, Chloe Brown</em>. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3xWmIz4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/get-a-life-chloe-brown-talia-hibbert/1129941473" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/get-a-life-chloe-brown/id1451297951" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/get-a-life-chloe-brown-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>. </p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Abortion is lifesaving healthcare. We are devastated and urge you to support <a href="https://abortionfunds.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the National Network of Abortion Funds</a>, which removes financial and logistical barriers to abortion access by centering people who have abortions and organizing at the intersections of racial, economic, and reproductive justice. They partner with organizations already in place on the ground in places where abortions are banned to do the work of helping people who need abortions. </li><li>We’ve talked about <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/5/18/135-freewheeling-with-sarah-and-jen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bodily autonomy in romance novels</a> before, and in <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/12/6/s0414-elda-minger-a-trailblazer-episode" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">our trailblazer conversation with Elda Minger</a>, she spoke extensively about what birth control and abortion were like for people back in the 70s.</li><li>We remain Big Mad. Also, we are here for you, always. Find Jen (mostly) at <a href="http://twitter.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a> and Sarah (mostly) on <a href="http://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>.</li><li>Sarah broke her ukulele, which is <a href="https://www.musicianauthority.com/reasons-to-play-the-ukulele/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a pretty cool instrument</a>. </li><li>It's <a href="https://deadline.com/2022/06/rage-against-the-machine-joins-lizzo-live-nation-in-tour-donations-1235051995/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lizzo leading the charge to donate proceeds from her tour to Planned Parenthood</a>, joined by (of course) Rage Against the Machine. Although <a href="https://twitter.com/Harry_Styles/status/1540466638138605568?s=20&amp;t=_ILp2TXu7kegSuBpGpGMfQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Harry Styles did make a statement about the Dobbs decision.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1g1smzU0oPb_DdOL8rlY9oT49IBc8T4puGVhCTv_iUMs/edit" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Don’t forget to take our Season 4 listener survey!</a></li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/3AsOdX7NcJs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">London Has Fallen</a> is a deeply silly and very entertaining movie that absolutely does not even try to pass <a href="https://filmlifestyle.com/what-is-the-bechdel-test/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Bechdel Test</a>.</li><li>Back when Jen read the first Scorpius Syndrome book, she did notice a funny thing about <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1041455011685908481?s=20&amp;t=jaJ8PdLbW-Mrw6Y3zWQ16w" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the main character’s sense of smell</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/6/28/s0441-unputdownable-romance-novels </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don’t even know, y’all, so this week, we’re doing a little bit of flailing and a lot of talking about books we found unputdownable when we read them the first time. We did our very best to avoid repeats — which is difficult this many episodes in! We talk about what makes a book unputdownable (we’ve got buckets!) and about other things too…like our annual reader survey and how skilled a musician Sarah is. </p><p>Fated Mates Live, in person is happening — if you have tickets to the live show in Alexandria, VA on July 30th — <a href="https://twitter.com/FatedMates/status/1537110494292676610" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">let us know on our Twitter thread</a> (and find friends!). If you didn’t get a ticket, but want to join the wait list, you can do that at<a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/fated-mates-live-tickets-353944496517" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Old Town Books</a>!  The event is <em>mask required</em>, so plan accordingly!</p><p>Thanks to Avon Books, publishers of Julie Anne Long’s <a href="https://amzn.to/39ZozuZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>You Were Made to Be Mine</em></a>, and to Leighann Hart, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3xZet5f" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Darling Descent</em></a>, for sponsoring the episode. </p><p>Next week, we’ve got a Trailblazer coming your way, but our next read along is Talia Hibbert’s <em>Get a Life, Chloe Brown</em>. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3xWmIz4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/get-a-life-chloe-brown-talia-hibbert/1129941473" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/get-a-life-chloe-brown/id1451297951" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/get-a-life-chloe-brown-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>. </p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Abortion is lifesaving healthcare. We are devastated and urge you to support <a href="https://abortionfunds.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the National Network of Abortion Funds</a>, which removes financial and logistical barriers to abortion access by centering people who have abortions and organizing at the intersections of racial, economic, and reproductive justice. They partner with organizations already in place on the ground in places where abortions are banned to do the work of helping people who need abortions. </li><li>We’ve talked about <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/5/18/135-freewheeling-with-sarah-and-jen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bodily autonomy in romance novels</a> before, and in <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/12/6/s0414-elda-minger-a-trailblazer-episode" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">our trailblazer conversation with Elda Minger</a>, she spoke extensively about what birth control and abortion were like for people back in the 70s.</li><li>We remain Big Mad. Also, we are here for you, always. Find Jen (mostly) at <a href="http://twitter.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a> and Sarah (mostly) on <a href="http://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>.</li><li>Sarah broke her ukulele, which is <a href="https://www.musicianauthority.com/reasons-to-play-the-ukulele/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a pretty cool instrument</a>. </li><li>It's <a href="https://deadline.com/2022/06/rage-against-the-machine-joins-lizzo-live-nation-in-tour-donations-1235051995/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lizzo leading the charge to donate proceeds from her tour to Planned Parenthood</a>, joined by (of course) Rage Against the Machine. Although <a href="https://twitter.com/Harry_Styles/status/1540466638138605568?s=20&amp;t=_ILp2TXu7kegSuBpGpGMfQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Harry Styles did make a statement about the Dobbs decision.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1g1smzU0oPb_DdOL8rlY9oT49IBc8T4puGVhCTv_iUMs/edit" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Don’t forget to take our Season 4 listener survey!</a></li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/3AsOdX7NcJs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">London Has Fallen</a> is a deeply silly and very entertaining movie that absolutely does not even try to pass <a href="https://filmlifestyle.com/what-is-the-bechdel-test/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Bechdel Test</a>.</li><li>Back when Jen read the first Scorpius Syndrome book, she did notice a funny thing about <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1041455011685908481?s=20&amp;t=jaJ8PdLbW-Mrw6Y3zWQ16w" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the main character’s sense of smell</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/6/28/s0441-unputdownable-romance-novels </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/6/28/s0441-unputdownable-romance-novels]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:62ba857959e11d4780dba670</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2022 12:55:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/53f87cf1-b80b-4050-b849-402bcf93093c/fated-mates-unputodownable-romance-novels.mp3" length="59311606" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>57:44</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>45</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>45</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We don’t even know, y’all, so this week, we’re doing a little bit of flailing and a lot of talking about books we found unputdownable when we read them the first time. We did our very best to avoid repeats — which is difficult this many episodes in! We talk about what makes a book unputdownable (we’ve got buckets!) and about other things too…like our annual reader survey and how skilled a musician Sarah is.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-53f87cf1-b80b-4050-b849-402bcf93093c.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S04.40: Royalty Romance #2</title><itunes:title>Royalty Romance #2</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We were going to do a deep dive this week, but then we read the book and decided that was a hard pass! So, we do a very shallow dive and then get to the good stuff this week…talking about Royal romances! We talk about the strange fascination the world has with royalty, about the way fake countries hit the spot, and about why it’s so rare to see a gender-swapped Cinderella story. Sarah also offers a peek at her newest research project, preliminarily titled—<em>Alexbastian: Is Name, In Fact Destiny?</em>  It’s better than a deep dive, we promise.</p><p>Fated Mates Live, in person is happening — if you have tickets to the live show in Alexandria, VA on July 30th — <a href="https://twitter.com/FatedMates/status/1537110494292676610" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">let us know on our Twitter thread</a> (and find friends!). If you didn’t get a ticket, but want to join the wait list, you can do that at<a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/fated-mates-live-tickets-353944496517" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Old Town Books</a>!  </p><p>Thanks to Adriana Herrera, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3m6sGrr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>A Caribbean Heiress in Paris</em></a>, for sponsoring the episode. Thanks, also, to Lumi Labs, creators of Microdose Gummies. Visit <a href="https://microdose.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">microdose.com</a> and use code FATEDMATES to get free shipping &amp; 30% off your first order.</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p>Turns out we are not reading The Dragon and the Jewel…because yikes. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleanor_of_England,_Countess_of_Leicester" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Eleanor Plantangenet</a> and <a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://www.britannica.com/biography/Simon-de-Montfort-earl-of-Leicester" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Simon de Montfort</a> were real people, but this 1991 romance is too problematic for a full discussion. </p><p>Yes, we talked about <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/27/165-royals-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">royalty in romance with Nana Malone back in season 1</a>, but there’s always fresh content! </p><p>The <a href="https://youtu.be/L2lFvFhWE2Y" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Oprah interview with Prince Harry &amp; Meghan Markle</a> is worth a watch, if you can stand all the commercials.</p><p>The launch event for <em>American Royalty</em> will be in Richmond on June 28, 2022. <a href="https://www.fountainbookstore.com/livesayclayborn062822" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Go check it out— Tracey will be joined by Kate Clayborn.</a></p><p>There is a real <a href="https://monarchie.lu/en/grand-ducal-family/hrh-prince-sebastien" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">His Royal Highness Prince Sebastian in Luxembourg</a>, if you’re into that kind of thing. </p><p>Order <a href="https://www.romancelandiashop.com/product-page/avatar-button" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">an avatar button</a> from <a href="https://www.romancelandiashop.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Romancelandia Shop</a>! This is a great way to announce your presence at in-person events and help people find you. It really works!</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We were going to do a deep dive this week, but then we read the book and decided that was a hard pass! So, we do a very shallow dive and then get to the good stuff this week…talking about Royal romances! We talk about the strange fascination the world has with royalty, about the way fake countries hit the spot, and about why it’s so rare to see a gender-swapped Cinderella story. Sarah also offers a peek at her newest research project, preliminarily titled—<em>Alexbastian: Is Name, In Fact Destiny?</em>  It’s better than a deep dive, we promise.</p><p>Fated Mates Live, in person is happening — if you have tickets to the live show in Alexandria, VA on July 30th — <a href="https://twitter.com/FatedMates/status/1537110494292676610" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">let us know on our Twitter thread</a> (and find friends!). If you didn’t get a ticket, but want to join the wait list, you can do that at<a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/fated-mates-live-tickets-353944496517" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Old Town Books</a>!  </p><p>Thanks to Adriana Herrera, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3m6sGrr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>A Caribbean Heiress in Paris</em></a>, for sponsoring the episode. Thanks, also, to Lumi Labs, creators of Microdose Gummies. Visit <a href="https://microdose.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">microdose.com</a> and use code FATEDMATES to get free shipping &amp; 30% off your first order.</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p>Turns out we are not reading The Dragon and the Jewel…because yikes. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleanor_of_England,_Countess_of_Leicester" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Eleanor Plantangenet</a> and <a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://www.britannica.com/biography/Simon-de-Montfort-earl-of-Leicester" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Simon de Montfort</a> were real people, but this 1991 romance is too problematic for a full discussion. </p><p>Yes, we talked about <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/27/165-royals-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">royalty in romance with Nana Malone back in season 1</a>, but there’s always fresh content! </p><p>The <a href="https://youtu.be/L2lFvFhWE2Y" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Oprah interview with Prince Harry &amp; Meghan Markle</a> is worth a watch, if you can stand all the commercials.</p><p>The launch event for <em>American Royalty</em> will be in Richmond on June 28, 2022. <a href="https://www.fountainbookstore.com/livesayclayborn062822" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Go check it out— Tracey will be joined by Kate Clayborn.</a></p><p>There is a real <a href="https://monarchie.lu/en/grand-ducal-family/hrh-prince-sebastien" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">His Royal Highness Prince Sebastian in Luxembourg</a>, if you’re into that kind of thing. </p><p>Order <a href="https://www.romancelandiashop.com/product-page/avatar-button" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">an avatar button</a> from <a href="https://www.romancelandiashop.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Romancelandia Shop</a>! This is a great way to announce your presence at in-person events and help people find you. It really works!</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/6/21/s0440-royalty-romance-interstitial-part-2]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:62b1facfe6e36c1f650cc95c</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2022 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/684d89f1-44a8-426f-aac8-5ba9e5e9ee7a/fated-mates-royals-reva.mp3" length="58745655" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>56:18</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>44</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>44</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We were going to do a deep dive this week, but then we read the book and decided that was a hard pass! So, we do a very shallow dive and then get to the good stuff this week…talking about Royal romances! We talk about the strange fascination the world has with royalty, about the way fake countries hit the spot, and about why it’s so rare to see a gender-swapped Cinderella story. Sarah also offers a peek at her newest research project, preliminarily titled—Alexbastian: Is Name, In Fact Destiny?  It’s better than a deep dive, we promise.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-684d89f1-44a8-426f-aac8-5ba9e5e9ee7a.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S04.39: Superhero Romance with Barry Lyga </title><itunes:title>S04.39: Superhero Romance with Barry Lyga</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">This week, we’re talking Superheroes! Why is it so rare to see a great romance in a superhero story? Is there really no room for love and capes? Do heroes eat? (spoiler: obviously) — We’re joined by author Barry Lyga,  a comics and superhero expert, to discuss all this and more…and to chat about the new YA Superhero anthology, Generation Wonder, in which Sarah has a short story (it’s a romance). We also recommend some great superhero romances and comics, because of course we do. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Do yourself a favor — be sure to check out show notes this week. The visuals are a delight.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Fated Mates Live, in person, is happening!!! We’ll be in Alexandria, VA on July 30th — join us there! We’ll be joined by a ton of our favorites…find more information about the event and <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/fated-mates-live-tickets-353944496517">get tickets through Old Town Books</a>!  </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thanks to Penguin Random House, publisher of Andie J. Christopher’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3mMZUwz"><em>Thank You, Next</em></a>, for sponsoring the episode. Thanks, also, to Lumi Labs, creators of Microdose Gummies. Visit <a href="https://microdose.com/">microdose.com</a> and use code FATEDMATES to get free shipping &amp; 30% off your first order.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our next read along is Virginia Henley’s <em>The Dragon and the Jewel</em>, a deep cut from Sarah’s childhood. Check your content warnings and remember this one is from 1991, so we don’t even know, honestly. We’re flying without a net here. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3yJihcQ">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dragon-and-the-jewel-virginia-henley/1100271355">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-dragon-and-the-jewel/id419258622">Apple</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-dragon-and-the-jewel">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780440206248">your local indie</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thanks to <a href="https://oldtownbooks.com">Old Town Books</a>, we are going to have a real Fated Mates Live event at Apollycon at the end of July. It will be Saturday evening July 30th in Alexandria. Stay tuned for details. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://barrylyga.com">Welcome Barry Lyga</a>, comics author and editor of the YA superhero anthology <a href="https://amzn.to/3zHfZvl">Generation Wonder</a>. Sarah has a story in the anthology, and we’ll hope you’ll buy one for the young reader in your life. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">There was no kissing in <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9419884/">Doctor Strange</a>, but we’ve been promised there will be in <a href="https://thedirect.com/article/thor-4-captain-marvel-valkyrie-rumors-lgbtq-relationship">Thor: Love and Thunder</a>. In fact, <a href="https://www.cbr.com/thor-love-and-thunder-mills-and-boon-inspiration-mcu/">Taika Waititi said Mills &amp; Boon</a>, so...that's official.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Back in the day, romance comics were just as popular as superhero comics. Check out the site <a href="https://www.sequentialcrush.com">Sequential Crush</a> to see the history of romance comics. If after this episode you think you might want to check out more comics, Suzanne’s site <a href="http://www.loveinpanels.com">Love in Panels</a> is the best place to start. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Comics writer <a href="https://twitter.com/markwaid">Mark Waid</a> wrote about manhood and comics in an essay that is no longer available online, but Mark is also the author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3QpUrJx">Irredeemable</a>, a comic about Superman turning villainous. Another essay about how modern superhero movies are romance and sex-free is called <a href="https://bloodknife.com/everyone-beautiful-no-one-horny/">Everyone is Beautiful and No One is Horny.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you have little kids, check out <a href="https://amzn.to/3MSKlOy">the Mia Mayhem series</a> of graphic novels. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/heaving-bosoms-578005/episodes/ep-91-cinnamon-blade-knife-in-41489348">Jen was on Heaving Bosoms to discuss Cinnamon Blade.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The TV Show about the superheroes going to work is called <a href="https://collider.com/the-boys-series-different-from-comics/">The Boys.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Exactly one year ago (well, one year ago yesterday), Justin Halpern and Patrick Schumacker, co-creators of the DC Entertainment-HBO Max adult animated series “Harley Quinn,” told <a href="https://variety.com/2021/tv/features/subverting-superhero-tv-wandavision-harley-quinn-umbrella-academy-1234992069/">Variety</a> that DC Comics removed a scene from the show of Batman "dining feline" (h/t <a href="https://bleedingcool.com/tv/dc-tells-harley-quinn-eps-batman-doesnt-dine-feline-selfish-lover/">bleedingcool</a> for this delightful euphemism), saying "Heroes don't do that." As is right and just, the internet disagreed and <a href="https://twitter.com/search?f=top&amp;q=%23heroeswhoeat&amp;src=typed_query">#HeroesWhoEat</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/search?f=top&amp;q=%23batmangoesdown&amp;src=typed_query">#BatmanGoesDown</a> were born. It was a great day.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">For what it's worth, it wasn't just the internet that disagreed. Zach Snyder confirmed that Batman in fact <em>does</em> eat, with <a href="https://twitter.com/pikaso_me/status/1407034041598050304/photo/1">one of the greatest tweets of all time</a>. At least, we think so. <a href="https://twitter.com/ZackSnyder/status/1405702805948538881?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1405702805948538881%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&amp;ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbleedingcool.com%2Fcomics%2Fdc-removes-zack-snyder-cut-of-batman-going-down-on-catwoman%2F">DC apparently did not care for it</a>. While we like Snyder's version very much, here are some other NSFW images we like almost as much (eye headphones in): From artist <a href="https://twitter.com/Mrs_Van_Damn/status/1406701910644625408">@Mrs_Van_Damn</a>; commentary from <a href="https://twitter.com/realAgdtwinkie/status/1405428794568044558">@realAgdtwinkie</a>; from artist (with excellent commentary) <a href="https://twitter.com/ArtKhobra/status/1406120646342553600">@ArtKhobra</a>; and this one, from artist <a href="https://twitter.com/rpace/status/1486066384090058756">@rpace</a>, with special love for the pegging crew.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">This week, we’re talking Superheroes! Why is it so rare to see a great romance in a superhero story? Is there really no room for love and capes? Do heroes eat? (spoiler: obviously) — We’re joined by author Barry Lyga,  a comics and superhero expert, to discuss all this and more…and to chat about the new YA Superhero anthology, Generation Wonder, in which Sarah has a short story (it’s a romance). We also recommend some great superhero romances and comics, because of course we do. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Do yourself a favor — be sure to check out show notes this week. The visuals are a delight.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Fated Mates Live, in person, is happening!!! We’ll be in Alexandria, VA on July 30th — join us there! We’ll be joined by a ton of our favorites…find more information about the event and <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/fated-mates-live-tickets-353944496517">get tickets through Old Town Books</a>!  </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thanks to Penguin Random House, publisher of Andie J. Christopher’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3mMZUwz"><em>Thank You, Next</em></a>, for sponsoring the episode. Thanks, also, to Lumi Labs, creators of Microdose Gummies. Visit <a href="https://microdose.com/">microdose.com</a> and use code FATEDMATES to get free shipping &amp; 30% off your first order.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our next read along is Virginia Henley’s <em>The Dragon and the Jewel</em>, a deep cut from Sarah’s childhood. Check your content warnings and remember this one is from 1991, so we don’t even know, honestly. We’re flying without a net here. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3yJihcQ">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dragon-and-the-jewel-virginia-henley/1100271355">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-dragon-and-the-jewel/id419258622">Apple</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-dragon-and-the-jewel">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780440206248">your local indie</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thanks to <a href="https://oldtownbooks.com">Old Town Books</a>, we are going to have a real Fated Mates Live event at Apollycon at the end of July. It will be Saturday evening July 30th in Alexandria. Stay tuned for details. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://barrylyga.com">Welcome Barry Lyga</a>, comics author and editor of the YA superhero anthology <a href="https://amzn.to/3zHfZvl">Generation Wonder</a>. Sarah has a story in the anthology, and we’ll hope you’ll buy one for the young reader in your life. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">There was no kissing in <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9419884/">Doctor Strange</a>, but we’ve been promised there will be in <a href="https://thedirect.com/article/thor-4-captain-marvel-valkyrie-rumors-lgbtq-relationship">Thor: Love and Thunder</a>. In fact, <a href="https://www.cbr.com/thor-love-and-thunder-mills-and-boon-inspiration-mcu/">Taika Waititi said Mills &amp; Boon</a>, so...that's official.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Back in the day, romance comics were just as popular as superhero comics. Check out the site <a href="https://www.sequentialcrush.com">Sequential Crush</a> to see the history of romance comics. If after this episode you think you might want to check out more comics, Suzanne’s site <a href="http://www.loveinpanels.com">Love in Panels</a> is the best place to start. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Comics writer <a href="https://twitter.com/markwaid">Mark Waid</a> wrote about manhood and comics in an essay that is no longer available online, but Mark is also the author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3QpUrJx">Irredeemable</a>, a comic about Superman turning villainous. Another essay about how modern superhero movies are romance and sex-free is called <a href="https://bloodknife.com/everyone-beautiful-no-one-horny/">Everyone is Beautiful and No One is Horny.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you have little kids, check out <a href="https://amzn.to/3MSKlOy">the Mia Mayhem series</a> of graphic novels. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/heaving-bosoms-578005/episodes/ep-91-cinnamon-blade-knife-in-41489348">Jen was on Heaving Bosoms to discuss Cinnamon Blade.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The TV Show about the superheroes going to work is called <a href="https://collider.com/the-boys-series-different-from-comics/">The Boys.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Exactly one year ago (well, one year ago yesterday), Justin Halpern and Patrick Schumacker, co-creators of the DC Entertainment-HBO Max adult animated series “Harley Quinn,” told <a href="https://variety.com/2021/tv/features/subverting-superhero-tv-wandavision-harley-quinn-umbrella-academy-1234992069/">Variety</a> that DC Comics removed a scene from the show of Batman "dining feline" (h/t <a href="https://bleedingcool.com/tv/dc-tells-harley-quinn-eps-batman-doesnt-dine-feline-selfish-lover/">bleedingcool</a> for this delightful euphemism), saying "Heroes don't do that." As is right and just, the internet disagreed and <a href="https://twitter.com/search?f=top&amp;q=%23heroeswhoeat&amp;src=typed_query">#HeroesWhoEat</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/search?f=top&amp;q=%23batmangoesdown&amp;src=typed_query">#BatmanGoesDown</a> were born. It was a great day.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">For what it's worth, it wasn't just the internet that disagreed. Zach Snyder confirmed that Batman in fact <em>does</em> eat, with <a href="https://twitter.com/pikaso_me/status/1407034041598050304/photo/1">one of the greatest tweets of all time</a>. At least, we think so. <a href="https://twitter.com/ZackSnyder/status/1405702805948538881?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1405702805948538881%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&amp;ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbleedingcool.com%2Fcomics%2Fdc-removes-zack-snyder-cut-of-batman-going-down-on-catwoman%2F">DC apparently did not care for it</a>. While we like Snyder's version very much, here are some other NSFW images we like almost as much (eye headphones in): From artist <a href="https://twitter.com/Mrs_Van_Damn/status/1406701910644625408">@Mrs_Van_Damn</a>; commentary from <a href="https://twitter.com/realAgdtwinkie/status/1405428794568044558">@realAgdtwinkie</a>; from artist (with excellent commentary) <a href="https://twitter.com/ArtKhobra/status/1406120646342553600">@ArtKhobra</a>; and this one, from artist <a href="https://twitter.com/rpace/status/1486066384090058756">@rpace</a>, with special love for the pegging crew.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/6/14/s0439-generation-wonder-and-superhero-romance]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:62a8a4ecd5988c49f7ac014c</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/1acf79d8-ffc6-467a-bab2-b0bc3b997022/purple-interstitial.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2022 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/6ea3e1e7-15ff-4ec7-99f1-fe18fe477313/fated-mates-superhero-romance-with-baryr-lyga.mp3" length="86411616" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:23:57</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>43</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>43</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>This week, we’re talking Superheroes! Why is it so rare to see a great romance in a superhero story? Is there really no room for love and capes? Do heroes eat? (spoiler: obviously) — We’re joined by author Barry Lyga,  a comics and superhero expert, to discuss all this and more…and to chat about the new YA Superhero anthology, Generation Wonder, in which Sarah has a short story (it’s a romance). We also recommend some great superhero romances and comics, because of course we do. 

Do yourself a favor — be sure to check out show notes this week. The visuals are a delight.</itunes:summary></item><item><title>S04.38: These Books Bang: The Sexiest Romance Novels</title><itunes:title>These Books Bang: The Sexiest Romance Novels</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This week’s episode is thanks to Julie Block, the Fated Mates listener who won an episode of the podcast in the Romance for Reproductive Justice auction sponsored by The Meet Cute Romance Bookshop and Fizzery in La Mesa, CA. Julie made a generous donation to the Collective Power Fund at the National Network of Abortion Funds, and in doing so, got to pick the episode topic — Books that Bang!  </p><p>Headphones in, y’all. We have sixty-nine (that’s right, 69, by pure unplanned luck!) recommendations for you this week — everything from bonkers to bloody to blazing hot…naughty bits that we believe deliver the whole banana (and sometimes no banana at all, if you know what we mean). Pencils ready…your time starts…now.</p><p>Thanks to Melissa McTernan, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3xsqb9q" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Married to the Fae Queen</em></a>, the second book in the Fairy Realm series, for sponsoring the episode. Thanks, also, to Lumi Labs, creators of Microdose Gummies. Visit <a href="https://microdose.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">microdose.com</a> and use code FATEDMATES to get free shipping &amp; 30% off your first order.</p><p>Our next read along is Virginia Henley’s <em>The Dragon and the Jewel</em>, a deep cut from Sarah’s childhood. Check your content warnings and remember this one is from 1991, so we don’t even know, honestly. We’re flying without a net here. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3yJihcQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dragon-and-the-jewel-virginia-henley/1100271355" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-dragon-and-the-jewel/id419258622" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-dragon-and-the-jewel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780440206248" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Thanks to Julie Block for suggesting this episode and donating to abortion funds for the Romancing for Reproductive Justice Auction, sponsored by <a href="https://meetcutebookshop.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Meet Cute Romance Bookshop &amp; Fizzery</a>, opening fall of 2022 in La Mesa, CA. It is not too late to donate to the <a href="https://abortionfunds.org/collective-power-fund/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Collective Power Fund at the National Network of Abortion Funds</a>.</li><li>While we name checked some Fated Mates classic recommendations like <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/2/24/s0225-asking-for-trouble" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tessa Bailey</a>, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/12/31/jessa-kane-new-years-eve-extravaganza" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jessa Kane</a>, and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/3/1/s0424-the-london-hale-oeuvre" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">London Hale</a>, somehow we recorded this episode without once mentioning the name of <a href="https://twitter.com/Charlotte_Stein" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Charlotte Stein</a>. So raise a glass to her and all the other authors writing super hot books that we forgot to mention.</li><li>Probably you want to see <a href="https://twitter.com/JenniferRNN/status/999411356116938753?s=20&amp;t=AJvktTXRFqBfZ9j_pD9XiQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen Porter's illustrations</a> of the drilldo. (PS. Protip: you might put "drilldo" in the search field of twitter thinking that Jen's tweets will come up, and that would be a mistake unless you want to see it real and in action. Ask me how I know.)</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/6/7/s0438-these-books-bang </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week’s episode is thanks to Julie Block, the Fated Mates listener who won an episode of the podcast in the Romance for Reproductive Justice auction sponsored by The Meet Cute Romance Bookshop and Fizzery in La Mesa, CA. Julie made a generous donation to the Collective Power Fund at the National Network of Abortion Funds, and in doing so, got to pick the episode topic — Books that Bang!  </p><p>Headphones in, y’all. We have sixty-nine (that’s right, 69, by pure unplanned luck!) recommendations for you this week — everything from bonkers to bloody to blazing hot…naughty bits that we believe deliver the whole banana (and sometimes no banana at all, if you know what we mean). Pencils ready…your time starts…now.</p><p>Thanks to Melissa McTernan, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3xsqb9q" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Married to the Fae Queen</em></a>, the second book in the Fairy Realm series, for sponsoring the episode. Thanks, also, to Lumi Labs, creators of Microdose Gummies. Visit <a href="https://microdose.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">microdose.com</a> and use code FATEDMATES to get free shipping &amp; 30% off your first order.</p><p>Our next read along is Virginia Henley’s <em>The Dragon and the Jewel</em>, a deep cut from Sarah’s childhood. Check your content warnings and remember this one is from 1991, so we don’t even know, honestly. We’re flying without a net here. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3yJihcQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dragon-and-the-jewel-virginia-henley/1100271355" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-dragon-and-the-jewel/id419258622" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-dragon-and-the-jewel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780440206248" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Thanks to Julie Block for suggesting this episode and donating to abortion funds for the Romancing for Reproductive Justice Auction, sponsored by <a href="https://meetcutebookshop.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Meet Cute Romance Bookshop &amp; Fizzery</a>, opening fall of 2022 in La Mesa, CA. It is not too late to donate to the <a href="https://abortionfunds.org/collective-power-fund/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Collective Power Fund at the National Network of Abortion Funds</a>.</li><li>While we name checked some Fated Mates classic recommendations like <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/2/24/s0225-asking-for-trouble" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tessa Bailey</a>, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/12/31/jessa-kane-new-years-eve-extravaganza" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jessa Kane</a>, and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/3/1/s0424-the-london-hale-oeuvre" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">London Hale</a>, somehow we recorded this episode without once mentioning the name of <a href="https://twitter.com/Charlotte_Stein" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Charlotte Stein</a>. So raise a glass to her and all the other authors writing super hot books that we forgot to mention.</li><li>Probably you want to see <a href="https://twitter.com/JenniferRNN/status/999411356116938753?s=20&amp;t=AJvktTXRFqBfZ9j_pD9XiQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen Porter's illustrations</a> of the drilldo. (PS. Protip: you might put "drilldo" in the search field of twitter thinking that Jen's tweets will come up, and that would be a mistake unless you want to see it real and in action. Ask me how I know.)</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/6/7/s0438-these-books-bang </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/6/7/s0438-these-books-bang]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:629f5e5402777e0318c4321d</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2022 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/a6b077bc-c936-4cc6-b9d9-94abe5811506/fated-mates-these-books-bang.mp3" length="78352310" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:17:12</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>42</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>42</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>This week’s episode is thanks to Julie Block, the Fated Mates listener who won an episode of the podcast in the Romance for Reproductive Justice auction sponsored by The Meet Cute Romance Bookshop and Fizzery in La Mesa, CA. Julie made a generous donation to the Collective Power Fund at the National Network of Abortion Funds, and in doing so, got to pick the episode topic — Books that Bang!  

Headphones in, y’all. We have sixty-nine (that’s right, 69, by pure unplanned luck!) recommendations for you this week — everything from bonkers to bloody to blazing hot…naughty bits that we believe deliver the whole banana (and sometimes no banana at all, if you know what we mean). Pencils ready…your time starts…now.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-a6b077bc-c936-4cc6-b9d9-94abe5811506.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S04.37: Groveling in Romance Novels</title><itunes:title>Groveling in Romance Novels</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>If there isn’t a grovel, is it even a romance? This week, we’re getting to the bottom of one of our favorite moments in a romance novel — the grovel. Love it or hate it, some of the best loved books of the genre go all in on hero (because let’s face it, it’s almost always the hero) on his knees…and we are here. for. it. We talk about the hows and whys of the grovel, about the reasons we love it, about the difference between a grovel and a grand gesture, and about the books that installed this particular button for us. </p><p>This episode is sponsored by Janna MacGregor, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3t9bQfz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Rules for Engaging the Earl</em></a>, and Adriana Herrera, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3m6sGrr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>A Caribbean Heiress in Paris</em></a>. </p><p>Our next read along is Virginia Henley’s <em>The Dragon and the Jewel</em>, a deep cut from Sarah’s childhood. Check your content warnings and remember this one is from 1991, so we don’t even know, honestly. We’re flying without a net here. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3yJihcQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dragon-and-the-jewel-virginia-henley/1100271355" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-dragon-and-the-jewel/id419258622" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-dragon-and-the-jewel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780440206248" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>We love a good grovel here at Fated Mates, and back in 2018, Jen wrote <a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/groveling" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">an essay on groveling</a> for <a href="https://www.anacoqui.com/2018/05/day-3-rombklove-groveling.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#RomBkLove</a></li><li><a href="https://mashable.com/article/merriam-webster-political-shade-twitter" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Merriam Webster</a> is the world’s greatest dictionary.</li><li>We don’t come from chimpanzees, but <a href="https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fossil-reveals-what-last-common-ancestor-of-humans-and-apes-looked-liked/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">we do have a common ancestor</a>. </li><li>If you think a character hasn’t suffered enough, you can leave them in <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1357070900106035200?s=20&amp;t=s3w-ZOL41CEtc-4UbaYSqw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">cold storage</a>. You have <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1237547298227273728?s=20&amp;t=s3w-ZOL41CEtc-4UbaYSqw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the power!</a></li><li>Jen did the entire breakdown on <a href="https://www.audible.com/pd/Kiss-An-Angel-by-Susan-Elizabeth-Phillips-w-Jen-Prokop-Episode-99-Podcast/B093PNSW1Z" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kiss an Angel with Erin &amp; Clayton from Learning the Tropes</a></li><li>We did a deep dive on <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/9/15/s0305-a-heart-of-blood-and-ashes-by-milla-vane" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Milla Vane's <em>A Heart of Blood and Ashes</em></a> because we love it so much. We also did episodes on <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/4/8/11-lothaire" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Lothaire</em></a>, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/27/16-sweet-ruin" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Sweet Ruin</em></a> and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/17/15-the-master" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Master</em></a>. The first five seconds of the Sweet Ruin epsiode are a straight shot of Sarah's joy, if you are looking for that sort of thing. </li><li>More about <a href="https://www.worldwildlife.org/stories/5-things-tiger-king-doesn-t-explain-about-captive-tigers" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the problem of captive (and presumably lacking telepathic prowess) Tigers</a> in America. </li><li><a href="https://poetrydispatch.wordpress.com/2008/06/16/james-joyce-molly-blooms-soliloquy/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Molly Bloom</a> totally would love a good romance novel, btw.</li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112346/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The American President</a> is a pretty great movie, but it also came out back in 1995 when we some of us were still capable of positive feelings about politicians. </li><li>Our next read along is <a href="https://amzn.to/3M3Ctt1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Dragon and the Jewel</a> by Virginia Henley.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/5/30/s0437-groveling-in-romance-novels </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there isn’t a grovel, is it even a romance? This week, we’re getting to the bottom of one of our favorite moments in a romance novel — the grovel. Love it or hate it, some of the best loved books of the genre go all in on hero (because let’s face it, it’s almost always the hero) on his knees…and we are here. for. it. We talk about the hows and whys of the grovel, about the reasons we love it, about the difference between a grovel and a grand gesture, and about the books that installed this particular button for us. </p><p>This episode is sponsored by Janna MacGregor, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3t9bQfz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Rules for Engaging the Earl</em></a>, and Adriana Herrera, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3m6sGrr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>A Caribbean Heiress in Paris</em></a>. </p><p>Our next read along is Virginia Henley’s <em>The Dragon and the Jewel</em>, a deep cut from Sarah’s childhood. Check your content warnings and remember this one is from 1991, so we don’t even know, honestly. We’re flying without a net here. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3yJihcQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dragon-and-the-jewel-virginia-henley/1100271355" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-dragon-and-the-jewel/id419258622" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-dragon-and-the-jewel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780440206248" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>We love a good grovel here at Fated Mates, and back in 2018, Jen wrote <a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/groveling" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">an essay on groveling</a> for <a href="https://www.anacoqui.com/2018/05/day-3-rombklove-groveling.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#RomBkLove</a></li><li><a href="https://mashable.com/article/merriam-webster-political-shade-twitter" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Merriam Webster</a> is the world’s greatest dictionary.</li><li>We don’t come from chimpanzees, but <a href="https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fossil-reveals-what-last-common-ancestor-of-humans-and-apes-looked-liked/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">we do have a common ancestor</a>. </li><li>If you think a character hasn’t suffered enough, you can leave them in <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1357070900106035200?s=20&amp;t=s3w-ZOL41CEtc-4UbaYSqw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">cold storage</a>. You have <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1237547298227273728?s=20&amp;t=s3w-ZOL41CEtc-4UbaYSqw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the power!</a></li><li>Jen did the entire breakdown on <a href="https://www.audible.com/pd/Kiss-An-Angel-by-Susan-Elizabeth-Phillips-w-Jen-Prokop-Episode-99-Podcast/B093PNSW1Z" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kiss an Angel with Erin &amp; Clayton from Learning the Tropes</a></li><li>We did a deep dive on <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/9/15/s0305-a-heart-of-blood-and-ashes-by-milla-vane" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Milla Vane's <em>A Heart of Blood and Ashes</em></a> because we love it so much. We also did episodes on <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/4/8/11-lothaire" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Lothaire</em></a>, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/27/16-sweet-ruin" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Sweet Ruin</em></a> and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/17/15-the-master" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Master</em></a>. The first five seconds of the Sweet Ruin epsiode are a straight shot of Sarah's joy, if you are looking for that sort of thing. </li><li>More about <a href="https://www.worldwildlife.org/stories/5-things-tiger-king-doesn-t-explain-about-captive-tigers" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the problem of captive (and presumably lacking telepathic prowess) Tigers</a> in America. </li><li><a href="https://poetrydispatch.wordpress.com/2008/06/16/james-joyce-molly-blooms-soliloquy/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Molly Bloom</a> totally would love a good romance novel, btw.</li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112346/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The American President</a> is a pretty great movie, but it also came out back in 1995 when we some of us were still capable of positive feelings about politicians. </li><li>Our next read along is <a href="https://amzn.to/3M3Ctt1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Dragon and the Jewel</a> by Virginia Henley.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/5/30/s0437-groveling-in-romance-novels </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/5/30/s0437-groveling-in-romance-novels]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:6294ed6ec46ed1075c7120d7</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2022 17:47:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/d77fb859-0aa1-4eaf-b612-d3a3cd5e8d57/fated-mates-groveling-reva.mp3" length="109055473" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:52:20</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>41</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>41</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>If there isn’t a grovel, is it even a romance? This week, we’re getting to the bottom of one of our favorite moments in a romance novel — the grovel. Love it or hate it, some of the best loved books of the genre go all in on hero (because let’s face it, it’s almost always the hero) on his knees…and we are here. for. it. We talk about the hows and whys of the grovel, about the reasons we love it, about the difference between a grovel and a grand gesture, and about the books that installed this particular button for us.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-d77fb859-0aa1-4eaf-b612-d3a3cd5e8d57.json" type="application/json+chapters"/><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="video/youtube" title="S04.37: Groveling in Romance Novels"><podcast:source uri="https://youtu.be/1KYV3G6G_vA"/></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>S04.36: Jude Deveraux: Trailblazer</title><itunes:title>S04.36: Jude Deveraux: A Trailblazer Episode</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our Trailblazer episodes continue this week with Jude Deveraux, an early historical romance author who broke several publishing barriers over her more than forty year career. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">In this episode, we talk about her journey through the Wild West of romance in the late 1970s, her publishing career at Avon Books, Pocket Books and Ballantine. We talk about the judgement and misogyny that circles romance, the buying power of readers, and the way the genre and bookselling has changed. We also talk about her writing process, and what it’s like to be Jude Deveraux. This one is a real joy for us, as we wouldn’t be the readers or writers we are without Jude Deveraux. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">This episode is sponsored by Avon Books, publisher of <a href="https://amzn.to/3wG7I7X">Joanna Shupe’s <em>The Bride Goes Rogue</em></a>, and Amazon’s Kindle Vella, publisher of <a href="https://amzn.to/3MH4sjq">Eloisa James’s <em>The Seduction Series</em></a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our next read along is Virginia Henley’s <em>The Dragon and the Jewel</em>, a deep cut from Sarah’s childhood. Check your content warnings and remember this one is from 1991, so we don’t even know, honestly. We’re flying without a net here. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3yJihcQ">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dragon-and-the-jewel-virginia-henley/1100271355">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-dragon-and-the-jewel/id419258622">Apple</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-dragon-and-the-jewel">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780440206248">your local indie</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Like many of our trailblazers, Jude Deveraux’s first brush with romance was Kathleen E Woodiwiss’s <em>The Flame &amp; the Flower. </em>The publisher with “the prettiest covers” in the 1970s she references was Woodiwiss’s publisher, Avon Books. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Books of Jude Deveraux’s that we talk about in depth include: <a href="https://amzn.to/3Gb876C"><em>The Enchanted Land</em></a> (her debut novel), <a href="https://amzn.to/3GcoEXZ"><em>A Knight in Shining Armor</em></a> (early time-travel romance), <a href="https://amzn.to/3MHVG4z"><em>Sweet Liar</em></a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/3wI4C35">The Providence Falls series</a> with Tara Sheets, <a href="https://amzn.to/3a6ymiw"><em>The Girl from Summer Hill</em></a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/39R9Guw"><em>Twin of Ice</em></a> (the twins!!), and “The Matchmakers” a short story in <a href="https://amzn.to/3wIyFb4"><em>The Invitation</em></a> collection (featuring Cale &amp; the angel sex scene).</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The Four Js were Jude Deveraux, Julie Garwood, Johanna Lindsey and Judith McNaught.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">People mentioned in the episode: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/06/books/06duffy.html">Kate Duffy</a>, editor at Silhouette Books and Pocket Books; Joan Schulhafer, publicist at Pocket Books; <a href="https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/Obituary/article/60376-obituary-richard-gallen-80.html">Richard Gallen</a>, publisher &amp; packager; <a href="/s/Ronald-Busch-Obituary.jpg" target="_blank">Ronald Busch</a>, publisher of Pocket Books; <a href="https://www.tridentmediagroup.com/agents/robert-gottlieb/">Robert Gottlieb</a>, agent; Linda Marrow, editor at Ballantine/Doubleday/Dell; Kathryn Falk, publisher of Romantic Times Magazine; Kathe Robin, reviewer at Romantic Times Magazine.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our Trailblazer episodes continue this week with Jude Deveraux, an early historical romance author who broke several publishing barriers over her more than forty year career. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">In this episode, we talk about her journey through the Wild West of romance in the late 1970s, her publishing career at Avon Books, Pocket Books and Ballantine. We talk about the judgement and misogyny that circles romance, the buying power of readers, and the way the genre and bookselling has changed. We also talk about her writing process, and what it’s like to be Jude Deveraux. This one is a real joy for us, as we wouldn’t be the readers or writers we are without Jude Deveraux. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">This episode is sponsored by Avon Books, publisher of <a href="https://amzn.to/3wG7I7X">Joanna Shupe’s <em>The Bride Goes Rogue</em></a>, and Amazon’s Kindle Vella, publisher of <a href="https://amzn.to/3MH4sjq">Eloisa James’s <em>The Seduction Series</em></a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our next read along is Virginia Henley’s <em>The Dragon and the Jewel</em>, a deep cut from Sarah’s childhood. Check your content warnings and remember this one is from 1991, so we don’t even know, honestly. We’re flying without a net here. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3yJihcQ">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dragon-and-the-jewel-virginia-henley/1100271355">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-dragon-and-the-jewel/id419258622">Apple</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-dragon-and-the-jewel">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780440206248">your local indie</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Like many of our trailblazers, Jude Deveraux’s first brush with romance was Kathleen E Woodiwiss’s <em>The Flame &amp; the Flower. </em>The publisher with “the prettiest covers” in the 1970s she references was Woodiwiss’s publisher, Avon Books. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Books of Jude Deveraux’s that we talk about in depth include: <a href="https://amzn.to/3Gb876C"><em>The Enchanted Land</em></a> (her debut novel), <a href="https://amzn.to/3GcoEXZ"><em>A Knight in Shining Armor</em></a> (early time-travel romance), <a href="https://amzn.to/3MHVG4z"><em>Sweet Liar</em></a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/3wI4C35">The Providence Falls series</a> with Tara Sheets, <a href="https://amzn.to/3a6ymiw"><em>The Girl from Summer Hill</em></a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/39R9Guw"><em>Twin of Ice</em></a> (the twins!!), and “The Matchmakers” a short story in <a href="https://amzn.to/3wIyFb4"><em>The Invitation</em></a> collection (featuring Cale &amp; the angel sex scene).</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The Four Js were Jude Deveraux, Julie Garwood, Johanna Lindsey and Judith McNaught.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">People mentioned in the episode: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/06/books/06duffy.html">Kate Duffy</a>, editor at Silhouette Books and Pocket Books; Joan Schulhafer, publicist at Pocket Books; <a href="https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/Obituary/article/60376-obituary-richard-gallen-80.html">Richard Gallen</a>, publisher &amp; packager; <a href="/s/Ronald-Busch-Obituary.jpg" target="_blank">Ronald Busch</a>, publisher of Pocket Books; <a href="https://www.tridentmediagroup.com/agents/robert-gottlieb/">Robert Gottlieb</a>, agent; Linda Marrow, editor at Ballantine/Doubleday/Dell; Kathryn Falk, publisher of Romantic Times Magazine; Kathe Robin, reviewer at Romantic Times Magazine.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/5/22/s0436-jude-deveraux-a-trailblazer-episode]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:628ae44e0d1ab811897e41ac</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/e06a9bf9-fdbd-442b-8e4b-d3c72fba81d8/red-trailblazers.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2022 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/fae92693-198f-4d92-9af8-aec1a72a89c9/fated-mates-jude-deveraux-trailblazer.mp3" length="78285662" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:17:05</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>40</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>40</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Our Trailblazer episodes continue this week with Jude Deveraux, an early historical romance author who broke several publishing barriers over her more than forty year career. 

In this episode, we talk about her journey through the Wild West of romance in the late 1970s, her publishing career at Avon Books, Pocket Books and Ballantine. We talk about the judgement and misogyny that circles romance, the buying power of readers, and the way the genre and bookselling has changed. We also talk about her writing process, and what it’s like to be Jude Deveraux. This one is a real joy for us, as we wouldn’t be the readers or writers we are without Jude Deveraux. </itunes:summary></item><item><title>S04.35: Butterfly Swords by Jeannie Lin: Some Real Hero Sh*t</title><itunes:title>Butterfly Swords by Jeannie Lin: This First Kiss!</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This week, we’re talking about one of our favorite historical romances, Jeannie Lin’s <em>Butterfly Swords</em>. This is one we’ve mentioned on previous episodes, and discussed at length during Jeannie’s Trailblazer episode, as it is the first own voices Asian-set historical romance. </p><p>Aside from setting the standard for adventure romance, it’s also a near-perfect road trip romance with one of the hottest slow burns you’ll ever read. We talk about all of it, including the absolutely devastating first kiss—one that should go down in romance history. TL;DR: We love this book hard.</p><p>Thanks to Charlotte Howard, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3llkVOk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Secret Verses</em></a><em>, </em>and Mila Finelli, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/37V571r" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Mafia Mistress</em></a>, for sponsoring the episode. Stay tuned after the episode to hear the first chapter of <em>Mafia Mistress</em> in audio!</p><p>Our next read along is Virginia Henley’s <em>The Dragon and the Jewel</em>, a deep cut from Sarah’s childhood. Check your content warnings and remember this one is from 1991, so we don’t even know, honestly. We’re flying without a net here. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3yJihcQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dragon-and-the-jewel-virginia-henley/1100271355" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-dragon-and-the-jewel/id419258622" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-dragon-and-the-jewel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780440206248" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>.</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>This week, we’re reading the debut novel Butterfly Swords by <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/3/15/s0426-jeannie-lin-a-trailblazer-episode" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">romance trailblazer Jeannie Lin.</a> This is the first book in her Tang Dynasty series. </li><li>It’s not too late to see <a href="https://www.rjjulia.com/event/christina-lauren-something-wilder-conversation-sarah-maclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah with Christina and Lauren in Connecticut</a> on May 18th, 2022, or <a href="https://www.eventcombo.com/e/In-Person-Event-with-Christina-LaurenSomething-Wilder-45510" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen with Christina, Lauren, and Sonali Dev in Naperville on May 19th, 2022.</a></li><li>We’re looking for an artist to draw us a magnificent firebird. Maybe it’s you? </li><li>So, it’s classic Jen to get titles wrong. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farewell_My_Concubine_(film)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Farewell, my Concubine</a> is a movie, and the third book in the Tang Dynasty series is called <a href="https://amzn.to/3yOKP4Z" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">My Fair Concubine</a>. But, that’s not Li Tao’s book, either–it’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3wy5G9U" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Dragon and the Pearl</a>. </li><li>We talked about <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/1/18/55-road-trip-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Road Trip romance back in season 1</a>. </li><li>Time for <a href="https://youtu.be/reOKExZN_K4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">an interlude from The Princess Bride</a>.</li><li>Our next read along is <a href="https://amzn.to/3FTeA61" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Dragon and the Jewel</a> by Virginia Henley, first published in 1991.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/5/15/s0435-butterfly-swords-by-jeannie-lin </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, we’re talking about one of our favorite historical romances, Jeannie Lin’s <em>Butterfly Swords</em>. This is one we’ve mentioned on previous episodes, and discussed at length during Jeannie’s Trailblazer episode, as it is the first own voices Asian-set historical romance. </p><p>Aside from setting the standard for adventure romance, it’s also a near-perfect road trip romance with one of the hottest slow burns you’ll ever read. We talk about all of it, including the absolutely devastating first kiss—one that should go down in romance history. TL;DR: We love this book hard.</p><p>Thanks to Charlotte Howard, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3llkVOk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Secret Verses</em></a><em>, </em>and Mila Finelli, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/37V571r" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Mafia Mistress</em></a>, for sponsoring the episode. Stay tuned after the episode to hear the first chapter of <em>Mafia Mistress</em> in audio!</p><p>Our next read along is Virginia Henley’s <em>The Dragon and the Jewel</em>, a deep cut from Sarah’s childhood. Check your content warnings and remember this one is from 1991, so we don’t even know, honestly. We’re flying without a net here. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3yJihcQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dragon-and-the-jewel-virginia-henley/1100271355" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-dragon-and-the-jewel/id419258622" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-dragon-and-the-jewel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780440206248" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>.</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>This week, we’re reading the debut novel Butterfly Swords by <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/3/15/s0426-jeannie-lin-a-trailblazer-episode" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">romance trailblazer Jeannie Lin.</a> This is the first book in her Tang Dynasty series. </li><li>It’s not too late to see <a href="https://www.rjjulia.com/event/christina-lauren-something-wilder-conversation-sarah-maclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah with Christina and Lauren in Connecticut</a> on May 18th, 2022, or <a href="https://www.eventcombo.com/e/In-Person-Event-with-Christina-LaurenSomething-Wilder-45510" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen with Christina, Lauren, and Sonali Dev in Naperville on May 19th, 2022.</a></li><li>We’re looking for an artist to draw us a magnificent firebird. Maybe it’s you? </li><li>So, it’s classic Jen to get titles wrong. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farewell_My_Concubine_(film)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Farewell, my Concubine</a> is a movie, and the third book in the Tang Dynasty series is called <a href="https://amzn.to/3yOKP4Z" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">My Fair Concubine</a>. But, that’s not Li Tao’s book, either–it’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3wy5G9U" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Dragon and the Pearl</a>. </li><li>We talked about <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/1/18/55-road-trip-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Road Trip romance back in season 1</a>. </li><li>Time for <a href="https://youtu.be/reOKExZN_K4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">an interlude from The Princess Bride</a>.</li><li>Our next read along is <a href="https://amzn.to/3FTeA61" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Dragon and the Jewel</a> by Virginia Henley, first published in 1991.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/5/15/s0435-butterfly-swords-by-jeannie-lin </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/5/15/s0435-butterfly-swords-by-jeannie-lin]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:6281495a215cde1811c38e6c</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2022 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/7d8b1fb3-81a4-4cf2-8979-41a0a185c8ac/fated-mates-butterfly-swords-jeannie-lin.mp3" length="81917858" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:21:32</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>39</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>39</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>This week, we’re talking about one of our favorite historical romances, Jeannie Lin’s Butterfly Swords. This is one we’ve mentioned on previous episodes, and discussed at length during Jeannie’s Trailblazer episode, as it is the first own voices Asian-set historical romance. 

Aside from setting the standard for adventure romance, it’s also a near-perfect road trip romance with one of the hottest slow burns you’ll ever read. We talk about all of it, including the absolutely devastating first kiss—one that should go down in romance history. TL;DR: We love this book hard.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-7d8b1fb3-81a4-4cf2-8979-41a0a185c8ac.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S04.34: Celebrity Romance Novels </title><itunes:title>S04.34: Celebrity Romance Novels</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We’re tackling one of Sarah’s favorite tropes this week — the celebrity romance! We talk about all the ways that her buttons were installed (thanks Judith McNaught) and about how rare movie stars are in romance even now, all these years later. We discuss The Chrises, the appeal of celebrity/normal person pairings, the difference between film/tv romance and rockstar/sports star romance, and about  why Americans especially love a celebrity. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Oh, and we get into our own existential despair. Visit <a href="https://fatedmates.net/fatedstates">fatedmates.net/fatedstates</a> for past episodes of us being Big Mad if you want some inspiration. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thanks to Avon Books, publishers of Eloisa James’s <a href="https://amzn.to/37yF0gL"><em>How to Be a Wallflower</em></a> for sponsoring the episode. Thanks, also, to Lumi Labs, creators of Microdose Gummies. Visit <a href="https://microdose.com">microdose.com</a> and use code FATEDMATES to get free shipping &amp; 30% off your first order. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our next read along is Jeannie Lin’s <em>Butterfly Swords</em>. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3wipYEe">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/butterfly-swords-jeannie-lin/1100346295">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/butterfly-swords/id392641973">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/butterfly-swords">Kobo</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/02/supreme-court-abortion-draft-opinion-00029473">A leaked memo from The Supreme Court</a> makes clear the fate of Roe V. Wade, and the <a href="https://www.vox.com/23058465/supreme-court-roe-wade-lgbtq-samuel-alito-marriage-equality-obergefell-lawrence">other civil rights</a>they’re <a href="https://www.wired.com/story/ramifications-of-post-roe-world/">looking to eliminate</a> next. We’ll be reactivating Fated States soon, and you can listen to some of our previous episodes (RBG, bodily autonomy, elda minger) related to these topics. It’s terrifying and feels like its all unraveling, so just <a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1522219363016712192?s=20">fight where you can</a>, remember <a href="https://twitter.com/JoannaShupe/status/1521942687590629378?s=20">we’ve been here before</a>, and you should organize in your local community to help others. Check out the <a href="https://twitter.com/_MeetCuteBooks_/status/1522663291180359680?s=20">Auction for Reproductive Rights</a> being organized by The Meet Cute Book Shop, and <a href="https://abortionfunds.org/funds/">donate to an abortion fund</a> near you. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Good <a href="https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/worst-hollywood-chris-pratt-evans-hemsworth-chrises-actors-movies-b1204064.html">Chrises</a> only, please: <a href="https://www.mensxp.com/entertainment/celebrities/88544-chris-hemsworth-feels-people-dont-take-him-as-a-serious-actor.html?scrlybrkr=958e9960">Hemsworth</a>, <a href="https://slate.com/culture/2022/04/chris-pine-contractor-movie-old-knives-wonder-woman.html">Pine</a>, <a href="https://www.themoviedb.org/person/145248-chris-pang">Pang</a>, and <a href="https://twitter.com/EricHaywood/status/935876674624815104?s=20">Evans.</a> As we say, <a href="https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2020/10/10118056/chris-pratt-worst-hollywood-chris-why">name is destiny</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We feel bad about it, but both of us thought about the book Perfect after hearing about the shooting on the movie set Rust. <a href="https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2021-10-31/rust-film-alec-baldwin-shooting-what-happened-that-day">Here is a timeline of how Alec Baldwin ended up with a live weapon.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><em>Perfect</em> takes place is some <a href="https://www.tripstodiscover.com/best-places-to-see-snow-in-texas/">part of Texas where it snows</a>, and Judith McNaught <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/1993/04/08/business/the-media-business-advertising-addenda-novelist-enlisted-for-literacy-drive.html">partnered with Coors</a> to raise awareness of and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_McNaught">adult literacy</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We love it when <a href="https://www.vogue.com/article/celebrities-married-to-normal-people-jennifer-lawrence-cooke-maroney">Normal people and movie stars</a> get together.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.hstyles.co.uk">Harry Styles will be on tour</a> later this year, everyone. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">I’m not sure why photographers love <a href="https://theface.com/culture/hot-men-in-suits-in-pool-are-everywhere-andrew-garfield-zac-efron-ryan-gosling">“the wet suit photoshoot”</a>, but it’s <a href="https://twitter.com/CasparSalmon/status/1481201797968629767?s=20">definitely a thing</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you think you've bought a book before on Amazon, but it's showing you the buy button. Go to Your Content and Devices and search for the book. You can also search your digital orders. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.visitcharlevoix.com">Charlevoix MI</a> is a cute tourist town on the shores of Lake Michigan, which is <a href="https://blog.livnfresh.com/how-many-gallons-does-lake-michigan-have/">very big by the way</a>. Unsure about whether or not merpeople live there, but there are <a href="https://www.michiganshipwrecks.org/shipwrecks-2">lots of shipwrecks</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FinalGirl">The final gir</a>l is a horror trope.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our next read along is <a href="https://t.co/KNhYVILllR">Butterfly Swords by Jeannie Lin</a>.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We’re tackling one of Sarah’s favorite tropes this week — the celebrity romance! We talk about all the ways that her buttons were installed (thanks Judith McNaught) and about how rare movie stars are in romance even now, all these years later. We discuss The Chrises, the appeal of celebrity/normal person pairings, the difference between film/tv romance and rockstar/sports star romance, and about  why Americans especially love a celebrity. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Oh, and we get into our own existential despair. Visit <a href="https://fatedmates.net/fatedstates">fatedmates.net/fatedstates</a> for past episodes of us being Big Mad if you want some inspiration. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thanks to Avon Books, publishers of Eloisa James’s <a href="https://amzn.to/37yF0gL"><em>How to Be a Wallflower</em></a> for sponsoring the episode. Thanks, also, to Lumi Labs, creators of Microdose Gummies. Visit <a href="https://microdose.com">microdose.com</a> and use code FATEDMATES to get free shipping &amp; 30% off your first order. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our next read along is Jeannie Lin’s <em>Butterfly Swords</em>. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3wipYEe">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/butterfly-swords-jeannie-lin/1100346295">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/butterfly-swords/id392641973">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/butterfly-swords">Kobo</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/02/supreme-court-abortion-draft-opinion-00029473">A leaked memo from The Supreme Court</a> makes clear the fate of Roe V. Wade, and the <a href="https://www.vox.com/23058465/supreme-court-roe-wade-lgbtq-samuel-alito-marriage-equality-obergefell-lawrence">other civil rights</a>they’re <a href="https://www.wired.com/story/ramifications-of-post-roe-world/">looking to eliminate</a> next. We’ll be reactivating Fated States soon, and you can listen to some of our previous episodes (RBG, bodily autonomy, elda minger) related to these topics. It’s terrifying and feels like its all unraveling, so just <a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1522219363016712192?s=20">fight where you can</a>, remember <a href="https://twitter.com/JoannaShupe/status/1521942687590629378?s=20">we’ve been here before</a>, and you should organize in your local community to help others. Check out the <a href="https://twitter.com/_MeetCuteBooks_/status/1522663291180359680?s=20">Auction for Reproductive Rights</a> being organized by The Meet Cute Book Shop, and <a href="https://abortionfunds.org/funds/">donate to an abortion fund</a> near you. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Good <a href="https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/worst-hollywood-chris-pratt-evans-hemsworth-chrises-actors-movies-b1204064.html">Chrises</a> only, please: <a href="https://www.mensxp.com/entertainment/celebrities/88544-chris-hemsworth-feels-people-dont-take-him-as-a-serious-actor.html?scrlybrkr=958e9960">Hemsworth</a>, <a href="https://slate.com/culture/2022/04/chris-pine-contractor-movie-old-knives-wonder-woman.html">Pine</a>, <a href="https://www.themoviedb.org/person/145248-chris-pang">Pang</a>, and <a href="https://twitter.com/EricHaywood/status/935876674624815104?s=20">Evans.</a> As we say, <a href="https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2020/10/10118056/chris-pratt-worst-hollywood-chris-why">name is destiny</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We feel bad about it, but both of us thought about the book Perfect after hearing about the shooting on the movie set Rust. <a href="https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2021-10-31/rust-film-alec-baldwin-shooting-what-happened-that-day">Here is a timeline of how Alec Baldwin ended up with a live weapon.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><em>Perfect</em> takes place is some <a href="https://www.tripstodiscover.com/best-places-to-see-snow-in-texas/">part of Texas where it snows</a>, and Judith McNaught <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/1993/04/08/business/the-media-business-advertising-addenda-novelist-enlisted-for-literacy-drive.html">partnered with Coors</a> to raise awareness of and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_McNaught">adult literacy</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We love it when <a href="https://www.vogue.com/article/celebrities-married-to-normal-people-jennifer-lawrence-cooke-maroney">Normal people and movie stars</a> get together.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.hstyles.co.uk">Harry Styles will be on tour</a> later this year, everyone. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">I’m not sure why photographers love <a href="https://theface.com/culture/hot-men-in-suits-in-pool-are-everywhere-andrew-garfield-zac-efron-ryan-gosling">“the wet suit photoshoot”</a>, but it’s <a href="https://twitter.com/CasparSalmon/status/1481201797968629767?s=20">definitely a thing</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you think you've bought a book before on Amazon, but it's showing you the buy button. Go to Your Content and Devices and search for the book. You can also search your digital orders. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.visitcharlevoix.com">Charlevoix MI</a> is a cute tourist town on the shores of Lake Michigan, which is <a href="https://blog.livnfresh.com/how-many-gallons-does-lake-michigan-have/">very big by the way</a>. Unsure about whether or not merpeople live there, but there are <a href="https://www.michiganshipwrecks.org/shipwrecks-2">lots of shipwrecks</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FinalGirl">The final gir</a>l is a horror trope.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our next read along is <a href="https://t.co/KNhYVILllR">Butterfly Swords by Jeannie Lin</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/5/8/s0434-celebrity-romance-novels]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:6278182d79fabe59b9e6a746</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/3a4ed0a1-47ce-4e63-bf8b-9b9fc30d2efb/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2022 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/5a81c777-a5cd-4067-8327-bd56dd4de700/fated-mates-celebrities.mp3" length="70157043" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:06:42</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>38</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>38</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We’re tackling one of Sarah’s favorite tropes this week — the celebrity romance! We talk about all the ways that her buttons were installed (thanks Judith McNaught) and about how rare movie stars are in romance even now, all these years later. We discuss The Chrises, the appeal of celebrity/normal person pairings, the difference between film/tv romance and rockstar/sports star romance, and about  why Americans especially love a celebrity. </itunes:summary></item><item><title>S04.33: Something About You by Julie James: Jack’s A Good Name For A Hero</title><itunes:title>Something About You by Julie James: Jack’s A Good Name For A Hero</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This week, we’re talking about a beloved contemporary romance, the first in Julie James’s FBI/US Attorney series —  <em>Something About You</em>. This one is a fascinating look at a series connected by not the romance standard of friends or families, but by work. Set in Chicago, it contains all the mystery of a romantic suspense without ever straying from the contemporary romance path. The characters are sharp, the writing is clever, the structure is fascinating, and it will likely make you read the rest of the series almost immediately. </p><p>Thanks to Avon Books, publisher of Lynsay Sands’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3vHR7kW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Immortal Rising</em></a><em>, </em>and Kelly Cain, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3KCpHC3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>An Acquired Taste</em></a>, for sponsoring the episode.</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li><a href="https://juliejames.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Julie James</a>&nbsp;is the author of 9 books in the FBI/US Attorney series. They are stand alone novels in the world of the Chicago criminal justice system.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://www.hyatt.com/en-US/hotel/illinois/hyatt-lodge/chilo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Hyatt Lodge in Oak Brook</a>&nbsp;has a lap pool with lane lines in case you’re into that sort of thing.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.justice.gov/usao" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The U.S. Attorneys</a>&nbsp;are federal prosecutors and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.justice.gov/usao/find-your-united-states-attorney" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">there are 94 districts</a>. Saying out each letter separately “A-U-S-A” is in fact the right way to shorten this title. Jen confirmed it with&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/thisoneiserin" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Erin</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.peninsula.com/en/chicago/5-star-luxury-hotel-downtown-chicago" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Peninsula</a>&nbsp;is a fancy hotel in Chicago. Jen is unsure of whether or not it has a lap pool.&nbsp;</li><li>After refinishing hardwood floors, you really do&nbsp;<a href="https://theflooringgirl.com/blog/refinishing-hardwood-floors-how-long-does-it-take/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">need to wait a while</a>&nbsp;before walking on them!&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://wangyip.medium.com/hobbies-vs-jobs-vs-careers-vs-vocation-47384dd6684c" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vocation vs Career vs a bunch of other things</a>.</li><li>“Taste her blood in her throat” as someone&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/4/5/s0429-nora-roberts-trailblazer" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">(ahem, Nora Roberts)</a>&nbsp;might say.&nbsp;</li><li>You definitely want to see&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/sRtJ1Dtzg1o" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">that scene Jen referenced from The Old Guard with Nicky &amp; Joe.</a>&nbsp;Unfortunately, Channing Tatum’s stirring defense of romance in The Lost City is not yet available on YouTube.&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/9FoM9JHXCWQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Watch this</a>as a placeholder.&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/KsdFgC_8pb0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Or this</a>. You’re welcome.&nbsp;</li><li>Christina Lauren is going on a book tour!&nbsp;<a href="https://christinalaurenbooks.com/events/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">You can see them with Sarah in Connecticut on May 18th, or in the Chicago suburbs with Jen on May 19th.</a>&nbsp;Join us!&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.timeout.com/chicago/news/michigan-avenue-italian-restaurant-spiaggia-is-closing-permanently-070921" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spiaggia</a>&nbsp;has closed, but it was&nbsp;<a href="https://chicago.eater.com/2021/7/9/22570103/spiaggia-closed-italian-tony-mantuano-chicago-mag-mile" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">very fancy</a>&nbsp;in its heyday.&nbsp;</li><li>It’s not&nbsp;<a href="https://interactive.wbez.org/curiouscity/pizza/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">weird pizza</a>, okay.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/5/2/s0433-something-about-you-by-julie-james </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, we’re talking about a beloved contemporary romance, the first in Julie James’s FBI/US Attorney series —  <em>Something About You</em>. This one is a fascinating look at a series connected by not the romance standard of friends or families, but by work. Set in Chicago, it contains all the mystery of a romantic suspense without ever straying from the contemporary romance path. The characters are sharp, the writing is clever, the structure is fascinating, and it will likely make you read the rest of the series almost immediately. </p><p>Thanks to Avon Books, publisher of Lynsay Sands’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3vHR7kW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Immortal Rising</em></a><em>, </em>and Kelly Cain, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3KCpHC3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>An Acquired Taste</em></a>, for sponsoring the episode.</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li><a href="https://juliejames.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Julie James</a>&nbsp;is the author of 9 books in the FBI/US Attorney series. They are stand alone novels in the world of the Chicago criminal justice system.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://www.hyatt.com/en-US/hotel/illinois/hyatt-lodge/chilo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Hyatt Lodge in Oak Brook</a>&nbsp;has a lap pool with lane lines in case you’re into that sort of thing.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.justice.gov/usao" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The U.S. Attorneys</a>&nbsp;are federal prosecutors and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.justice.gov/usao/find-your-united-states-attorney" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">there are 94 districts</a>. Saying out each letter separately “A-U-S-A” is in fact the right way to shorten this title. Jen confirmed it with&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/thisoneiserin" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Erin</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.peninsula.com/en/chicago/5-star-luxury-hotel-downtown-chicago" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Peninsula</a>&nbsp;is a fancy hotel in Chicago. Jen is unsure of whether or not it has a lap pool.&nbsp;</li><li>After refinishing hardwood floors, you really do&nbsp;<a href="https://theflooringgirl.com/blog/refinishing-hardwood-floors-how-long-does-it-take/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">need to wait a while</a>&nbsp;before walking on them!&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://wangyip.medium.com/hobbies-vs-jobs-vs-careers-vs-vocation-47384dd6684c" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vocation vs Career vs a bunch of other things</a>.</li><li>“Taste her blood in her throat” as someone&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/4/5/s0429-nora-roberts-trailblazer" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">(ahem, Nora Roberts)</a>&nbsp;might say.&nbsp;</li><li>You definitely want to see&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/sRtJ1Dtzg1o" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">that scene Jen referenced from The Old Guard with Nicky &amp; Joe.</a>&nbsp;Unfortunately, Channing Tatum’s stirring defense of romance in The Lost City is not yet available on YouTube.&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/9FoM9JHXCWQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Watch this</a>as a placeholder.&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/KsdFgC_8pb0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Or this</a>. You’re welcome.&nbsp;</li><li>Christina Lauren is going on a book tour!&nbsp;<a href="https://christinalaurenbooks.com/events/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">You can see them with Sarah in Connecticut on May 18th, or in the Chicago suburbs with Jen on May 19th.</a>&nbsp;Join us!&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.timeout.com/chicago/news/michigan-avenue-italian-restaurant-spiaggia-is-closing-permanently-070921" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spiaggia</a>&nbsp;has closed, but it was&nbsp;<a href="https://chicago.eater.com/2021/7/9/22570103/spiaggia-closed-italian-tony-mantuano-chicago-mag-mile" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">very fancy</a>&nbsp;in its heyday.&nbsp;</li><li>It’s not&nbsp;<a href="https://interactive.wbez.org/curiouscity/pizza/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">weird pizza</a>, okay.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/5/2/s0433-something-about-you-by-julie-james </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/5/2/s0433-something-about-you-by-julie-james]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:626fe2cf1e7c6f59b9279230</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2022 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/edcee998-91dc-4022-8b12-bb41a98a5bb2/fated-mates-julie-james-final-revg.mp3" length="65438142" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:04:58</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>37</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>37</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>This week, we’re talking about a beloved contemporary romance, the first in Julie James’s FBI/US Attorney series —  Something About You. This one is a fascinating look at a series connected by not the romance standard of friends or families, but by work. Set in Chicago, it contains all the mystery of a romantic suspense without ever straying from the contemporary romance path. The characters are sharp, the writing is clever, the structure is fascinating, and it will likely make you read the rest of the series almost immediately.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-edcee998-91dc-4022-8b12-bb41a98a5bb2.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S04:32: EE Ottoman: Trailblazer</title><itunes:title>S04:32: EE Ottoman: A Trailblazer Episode</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Trailblazer episodes continue this week with EE Ottoman, the first out trans author of romance novels. EE joins us to talk about his journey into romance, about the evolution of trans romance novels, and about the importance of representation in romance. This is a fascinating conversation, and we’re so grateful to EE for joining us to tell his story, and the story of trans romance to date. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><em>An important note: While books by LGBTQ+ authors have been targeted by book bans across the country for decades, the recent bans on books and language around queerness in schools and public spaces make this issue even more pressing. This episode was recorded in the fall of 2021, which is why this specific issue is not a part of our discussion. </em></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thanks to Kelly Cain, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3KCpHC3"><em>An Acquired Taste</em></a>, and Ava Wixx, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3xQKP3P"><em>Virtual Reality Bites</em></a><em>,</em> for sponsoring the episode.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our next read along is Julie James’s <em>Something About You</em>. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/37ilRiN">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/something-about-you-julie-james/1100316195">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/something-about-you/id357929419">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/something-about-you">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780425233382">at your local bookstore</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Welcome&nbsp;<a href="https://acosmistmachine.com">EE Ottoman</a>, a romance trailblazer for being the first trans writer to write romance with trans characters. You can watch the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shL1kNwr0nA">RWA video of romance firsts here</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">People and publishers mentioned:&nbsp;<a href="https://lessthanthreepress.tumblr.com">Less Than 3 Press</a>; We discussed the shifting landscape of LGBTQ bookstores during our&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/10/10/s0405-trailblazer-radclyffe">trailblazer interview with Radclyffe</a>&nbsp;and Oprah daily has&nbsp;<a href="https://www.oprahdaily.com/entertainment/books/a36741294/queer-lgbtq-owned-bookstores/#massachusetts">an extensive list of LGBTQ bookstores</a>&nbsp;searchable by state. The zine bookstore in Chicago is called&nbsp;<a href="https://www.quimbys.com">Quimby’s</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">EE Ottoman mentioned authors&nbsp;<a href="https://kjcharleswriter.com">KJ Charles</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.maypetersonbooks.com">May Peterson</a>&nbsp;as being especially supportive on his journey through romance, and notes that&nbsp;<a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://www.carinapress.com/shop/category/transgender.html?sortci=onsaledate%20asc">Carina Press</a>&nbsp;has been several trans romance titles.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Books with queer characters continue to be the target of book banning across the country, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.advocate.com/books/2022/2/03/18-lgbtq-books-are-banned-schools-2022">books with trans characters are the most likely to be targeted.</a></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Trailblazer episodes continue this week with EE Ottoman, the first out trans author of romance novels. EE joins us to talk about his journey into romance, about the evolution of trans romance novels, and about the importance of representation in romance. This is a fascinating conversation, and we’re so grateful to EE for joining us to tell his story, and the story of trans romance to date. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><em>An important note: While books by LGBTQ+ authors have been targeted by book bans across the country for decades, the recent bans on books and language around queerness in schools and public spaces make this issue even more pressing. This episode was recorded in the fall of 2021, which is why this specific issue is not a part of our discussion. </em></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thanks to Kelly Cain, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3KCpHC3"><em>An Acquired Taste</em></a>, and Ava Wixx, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3xQKP3P"><em>Virtual Reality Bites</em></a><em>,</em> for sponsoring the episode.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our next read along is Julie James’s <em>Something About You</em>. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/37ilRiN">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/something-about-you-julie-james/1100316195">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/something-about-you/id357929419">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/something-about-you">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780425233382">at your local bookstore</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Welcome&nbsp;<a href="https://acosmistmachine.com">EE Ottoman</a>, a romance trailblazer for being the first trans writer to write romance with trans characters. You can watch the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shL1kNwr0nA">RWA video of romance firsts here</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">People and publishers mentioned:&nbsp;<a href="https://lessthanthreepress.tumblr.com">Less Than 3 Press</a>; We discussed the shifting landscape of LGBTQ bookstores during our&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/10/10/s0405-trailblazer-radclyffe">trailblazer interview with Radclyffe</a>&nbsp;and Oprah daily has&nbsp;<a href="https://www.oprahdaily.com/entertainment/books/a36741294/queer-lgbtq-owned-bookstores/#massachusetts">an extensive list of LGBTQ bookstores</a>&nbsp;searchable by state. The zine bookstore in Chicago is called&nbsp;<a href="https://www.quimbys.com">Quimby’s</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">EE Ottoman mentioned authors&nbsp;<a href="https://kjcharleswriter.com">KJ Charles</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.maypetersonbooks.com">May Peterson</a>&nbsp;as being especially supportive on his journey through romance, and notes that&nbsp;<a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://www.carinapress.com/shop/category/transgender.html?sortci=onsaledate%20asc">Carina Press</a>&nbsp;has been several trans romance titles.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Books with queer characters continue to be the target of book banning across the country, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.advocate.com/books/2022/2/03/18-lgbtq-books-are-banned-schools-2022">books with trans characters are the most likely to be targeted.</a></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/4/23/s0432-ee-ottoman-a-trailblazer-episode]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:62641ab6f1154159c2a1b9ac</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/8b1d9e30-8d9f-4fb6-9b08-839839241fcc/red-trailblazers.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2022 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/954bb8dc-9e7b-4bae-906c-d03a641923c0/fated-mates-trailblazer-ee-ottoman-reva.mp3" length="87732948" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:26:58</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>36</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>36</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Trailblazer episodes continue this week with EE Ottoman, the first out trans author of romance novels. EE joins us to talk about his journey into romance, about the evolution of trans romance novels, and about the importance of representation in romance. This is a fascinating conversation, and we’re so grateful to EE for joining us to tell his story, and the story of trans romance to date. </itunes:summary></item><item><title>S04.31: Vampire Romance Novels</title><itunes:title>Vampire Romance Novels</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>At the request of Instagram, we’re talking Vampires today! We’re doing some deep cuts, returning to Kresley Cole for a minute or two, and then digging into worldbuilding, morality chain, why these books lend themselves to massive series, and ultimately…why we love these big toothy jerks. If you’re a paranormal reader, get your pencils ready — especially if you’re new to it, because we’re taking everyone way back to the beginnings of the subgenre!  </p><p>Thanks to Kelly Cain, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3KCpHC3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>An Acquired Taste</em></a>, and Alyxandra Harvey, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3jS278i" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>How to Marry an Earl</em></a><em>,</em> for sponsoring the episode.</p><p>Our next read along is Julie James’s <em>Something About You</em>. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/37ilRiN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/something-about-you-julie-james/1100316195" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/something-about-you/id357929419" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/something-about-you" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780425233382" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">at your local bookstore</a>. </p><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>We’ve talked about vampires on past episodes: Kresley’s IAD vampires (<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/4-something-we-said-dark-needs-at-nights-edge" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Conrad is our favorite</a>);&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/10/20/s027-dark-lover" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dark Lover by JR Ward</a>; and last fall, we had Jenny Nordbak on for&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/10/18/s0406-monster-romance-interstitial-with-jenny-nordbak" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a monster interstitial</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>If you’re in Brooklyn and looking for a bookstore that carries lots of PNR, try&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bookmarkshoppe.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Bookmark Shoppe</a>.</li><li>In film, after 9/11,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/09/10/911-helped-superhero-movies-conquer-world-they-never-moved/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the rise of the anti/superhero</a>&nbsp;to reconcile America's participation in a war. After the economic downturn, it was&nbsp;<a href="https://slate.com/culture/2011/10/zombies-the-zombie-boom-is-inspired-by-the-economy.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the rise of zombies</a>&nbsp;to justify the way America was leaving poor people behind. And in&nbsp;<a href="https://vm.tiktok.com/ZTdXMh3T5/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this TikTok by Virgolikebeyonce</a>, she suggests we're about to see media that reconciles our obsession with work/capitalism. We at FM have been noting a rise of the regular, blue-collar hero, which would track with this.</li><li>A&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thoughtco.com/cultural-hegemony-3026121" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">hegemony</a>&nbsp;explainer.</li><li>Tessa Bailey hit #1 on both the&nbsp;<a href="https://booklist.usatoday.com/story/life/books/2013/06/21/hook-line-and-sinker/2444877/isbn/9780063045705/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">USAToday</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/books/best-sellers/2022/03/20/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">New York Times bestseller</a>&nbsp;lists with&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3rBuhss" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hook, Line, and Sinker</a>.</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/books/best-selling-author-sherrilyn-kenyon-author-dark-hunter-series-claims-n960056" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sherilyn Kenyon situation</a>&nbsp;is truly weird.&nbsp;</li><li>Even eBooks can go out of print, for example,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/series/46715-the-faustin-bros" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Faustian Brothers series by Evie Byrne.</a></li><li>Our next read along is&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3jR4OHm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Something About You</a>&nbsp;by Julie James.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/4/16/s0431-vampire-romance-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the request of Instagram, we’re talking Vampires today! We’re doing some deep cuts, returning to Kresley Cole for a minute or two, and then digging into worldbuilding, morality chain, why these books lend themselves to massive series, and ultimately…why we love these big toothy jerks. If you’re a paranormal reader, get your pencils ready — especially if you’re new to it, because we’re taking everyone way back to the beginnings of the subgenre!  </p><p>Thanks to Kelly Cain, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3KCpHC3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>An Acquired Taste</em></a>, and Alyxandra Harvey, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3jS278i" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>How to Marry an Earl</em></a><em>,</em> for sponsoring the episode.</p><p>Our next read along is Julie James’s <em>Something About You</em>. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/37ilRiN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/something-about-you-julie-james/1100316195" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/something-about-you/id357929419" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/something-about-you" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780425233382" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">at your local bookstore</a>. </p><h2>Notes</h2><ul><li>We’ve talked about vampires on past episodes: Kresley’s IAD vampires (<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/4-something-we-said-dark-needs-at-nights-edge" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Conrad is our favorite</a>);&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/10/20/s027-dark-lover" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dark Lover by JR Ward</a>; and last fall, we had Jenny Nordbak on for&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/10/18/s0406-monster-romance-interstitial-with-jenny-nordbak" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a monster interstitial</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>If you’re in Brooklyn and looking for a bookstore that carries lots of PNR, try&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bookmarkshoppe.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Bookmark Shoppe</a>.</li><li>In film, after 9/11,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/09/10/911-helped-superhero-movies-conquer-world-they-never-moved/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the rise of the anti/superhero</a>&nbsp;to reconcile America's participation in a war. After the economic downturn, it was&nbsp;<a href="https://slate.com/culture/2011/10/zombies-the-zombie-boom-is-inspired-by-the-economy.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the rise of zombies</a>&nbsp;to justify the way America was leaving poor people behind. And in&nbsp;<a href="https://vm.tiktok.com/ZTdXMh3T5/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this TikTok by Virgolikebeyonce</a>, she suggests we're about to see media that reconciles our obsession with work/capitalism. We at FM have been noting a rise of the regular, blue-collar hero, which would track with this.</li><li>A&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thoughtco.com/cultural-hegemony-3026121" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">hegemony</a>&nbsp;explainer.</li><li>Tessa Bailey hit #1 on both the&nbsp;<a href="https://booklist.usatoday.com/story/life/books/2013/06/21/hook-line-and-sinker/2444877/isbn/9780063045705/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">USAToday</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/books/best-sellers/2022/03/20/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">New York Times bestseller</a>&nbsp;lists with&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3rBuhss" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hook, Line, and Sinker</a>.</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/books/best-selling-author-sherrilyn-kenyon-author-dark-hunter-series-claims-n960056" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sherilyn Kenyon situation</a>&nbsp;is truly weird.&nbsp;</li><li>Even eBooks can go out of print, for example,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/series/46715-the-faustin-bros" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Faustian Brothers series by Evie Byrne.</a></li><li>Our next read along is&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3jR4OHm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Something About You</a>&nbsp;by Julie James.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/4/16/s0431-vampire-romance-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/4/16/s0431-vampire-romance-interstitial]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:625b33b7e77ee82823042815</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2022 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/ff58d9d0-2a24-48c6-aa90-9adf85c60620/fated-mates-vampire-romance-interstitial.mp3" length="65084874" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:02:48</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>35</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>35</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>At the request of Instagram, we’re talking Vampires today! We’re doing some deep cuts, returning to Kresley Cole for a minute or two, and then digging into worldbuilding, morality chain, why these books lend themselves to massive series, and ultimately…why we love these big toothy jerks. If you’re a paranormal reader, get your pencils ready — especially if you’re new to it, because we’re taking everyone way back to the beginnings of the subgenre!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-ff58d9d0-2a24-48c6-aa90-9adf85c60620.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S04.30: Her Night With the Duke by Diana Quincy</title><itunes:title>Her Night With the Duke by Diana Quincy</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This week, we’re talking about one of Sarah’s favorite recent historicals, Diana Quincy’s beautiful <em>Her Night With the Duke</em>, which was on our 2020 Best Romance of the Year list. This one fires on many cylinders, and the conversation it inspired covers a lot of ground. We talk about how you won’t get a better Bridgerton read-alike than this one, about the third-act breakup, why it works and the work it does in a romance, about why widows are allowed to be sexy, about responsibility and aristocracy, about hot golf, and about how modern historicals are really doing the business. </p><p>Thanks to Avon Books, publisher of Eva Leigh’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3xjTvPX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Good Girl’s Guide to Rakes</em></a><em>, </em>and Kelly Cain, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3KCpHC3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>An Acquired Taste</em></a>, for sponsoring the episode.</p><p>Our next read along is Julie James’s <em>Something About You</em>. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/37ilRiN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/something-about-you-julie-james/1100316195" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/something-about-you/id357929419" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/something-about-you" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780425233382" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">at your local bookstore</a>. </p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Diana Quincy has written many romance novels, and she also published Regency era mysteries under the name D.M. Quincy. You can find information about her books on&nbsp;<a href="https://www.dianaquincy.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">her website</a>, on&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/Diana_Quincy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twitter</a>, or on Instagram.&nbsp;</li><li><em>Her Night with the Duke</em>&nbsp;was one of our&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/11/23/s0316-best-romance-novels-of-2020" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">best of 2020 romances</a>.</li><li>Leela taking her knife to her evil brother-in-law's face was just as satisfying as&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/I73sP93-0xA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this great scene with Inigo Montoya from The Princess Bride.</a></li><li>Here's a brief overview&nbsp;<a href="https://english.alaraby.co.uk/features/unique-tale-syrian-traders-manchester" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">of the history of the Arab community in Manchester, England.</a></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3v2ykz4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Craft in the Real World by Matthew Salesses</a>&nbsp;dives into storytelling around the world, makes the case that conflict-driven plots are not universal and advocates for making diverse storytelling traditions welcome in literary spaces.&nbsp;<a href="https://lithub.com/25-essential-notes-on-craft-from-matthew-salesses/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">This essay from LitHub</a>&nbsp;is a good primer to his argument.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/4/10/s0430-her-night-with-the-duke-by-diana-quincy </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, we’re talking about one of Sarah’s favorite recent historicals, Diana Quincy’s beautiful <em>Her Night With the Duke</em>, which was on our 2020 Best Romance of the Year list. This one fires on many cylinders, and the conversation it inspired covers a lot of ground. We talk about how you won’t get a better Bridgerton read-alike than this one, about the third-act breakup, why it works and the work it does in a romance, about why widows are allowed to be sexy, about responsibility and aristocracy, about hot golf, and about how modern historicals are really doing the business. </p><p>Thanks to Avon Books, publisher of Eva Leigh’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3xjTvPX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Good Girl’s Guide to Rakes</em></a><em>, </em>and Kelly Cain, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3KCpHC3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>An Acquired Taste</em></a>, for sponsoring the episode.</p><p>Our next read along is Julie James’s <em>Something About You</em>. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/37ilRiN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/something-about-you-julie-james/1100316195" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/something-about-you/id357929419" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/something-about-you" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780425233382" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">at your local bookstore</a>. </p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Diana Quincy has written many romance novels, and she also published Regency era mysteries under the name D.M. Quincy. You can find information about her books on&nbsp;<a href="https://www.dianaquincy.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">her website</a>, on&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/Diana_Quincy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twitter</a>, or on Instagram.&nbsp;</li><li><em>Her Night with the Duke</em>&nbsp;was one of our&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/11/23/s0316-best-romance-novels-of-2020" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">best of 2020 romances</a>.</li><li>Leela taking her knife to her evil brother-in-law's face was just as satisfying as&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/I73sP93-0xA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this great scene with Inigo Montoya from The Princess Bride.</a></li><li>Here's a brief overview&nbsp;<a href="https://english.alaraby.co.uk/features/unique-tale-syrian-traders-manchester" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">of the history of the Arab community in Manchester, England.</a></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3v2ykz4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Craft in the Real World by Matthew Salesses</a>&nbsp;dives into storytelling around the world, makes the case that conflict-driven plots are not universal and advocates for making diverse storytelling traditions welcome in literary spaces.&nbsp;<a href="https://lithub.com/25-essential-notes-on-craft-from-matthew-salesses/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">This essay from LitHub</a>&nbsp;is a good primer to his argument.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/4/10/s0430-her-night-with-the-duke-by-diana-quincy </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/4/10/s0430-her-night-with-the-duke-by-diana-quincy]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:6252effab27d617aac791083</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/ebc6e681-a668-4439-96ec-0fb9c24e5981/pink-read-along.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2022 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/4ece1120-788c-45ae-a5a9-38ec5e99bd42/fated-mates-diana-quincy-her-night-with-the-duke-reva.mp3" length="77245423" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:15:14</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>34</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>34</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>This week, we’re talking about one of Sarah’s favorite recent historicals, Diana Quincy’s beautiful Her Night With the Duke, which was on our 2020 Best Romance of the Year list. This one fires on many cylinders, and the conversation it inspired covers a lot of ground. We talk about how you won’t get a better Bridgerton read-alike than this one, about the third-act breakup, why it works and the work it does in a romance, about why widows are allowed to be sexy, about responsibility and aristocracy, about hot golf, and about how modern historicals are really doing the business.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-4ece1120-788c-45ae-a5a9-38ec5e99bd42.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S04.29: Nora Roberts: Trailblazer</title><itunes:title>S04.29: Nora Roberts: a Trailblazer Episode</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The Trailblazer episodes continue this week with the Queen herself! Nora Roberts joins us today to talk about her longstanding career in romance—from her extremely relatable roots as a mom going mad in a snowstorm, to her deep rooted work ethic, to the plagiarism that rocked the publishing world. We talk about her place in the romance pantheon, about the reasons she thinks her books are so beloved, and about that one time her publisher called to tell her she was writing too much. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">It was an absolute pleasure to have Nora Roberts personally explain things to us; we’re beyond grateful to her for making time for Fated Mates. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thanks to Piper Rayne, authors of <a href="https://amzn.to/3uWAroa"><em>Sneaking Around With #34</em></a><em>, </em>and Kenya Goree-Bell, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3K9Ghsy"><em>California Love</em></a>, for sponsoring the episode.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our next read along is Diana Quincy’s <em>Her Night With the Duke</em>, which was on our Best of 2020 year-end list! Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3HBRdx3">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/her-night-with-the-duke-diana-quincy/1132291744">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/her-night-with-the-duke/id1493194498?itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_box_link&amp;ls=1">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/her-night-with-the-duke">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780062986795">at your local bookstore</a>. You can also<a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://www.chirpbooks.com/audiobooks/her-night-with-the-duke-by-diana-quincy"> get it in audio</a> from our partner, Chirp Books!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We are thrilled to have&nbsp;<a href="https://noraroberts.com">Nora Roberts</a>&nbsp;on the podcast today. Take a moment to read this&nbsp;<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2009/06/22/real-romance-2">2009 New Yorker profile about Nora and her career.</a>&nbsp;This&nbsp;<a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TNybzE0fh6HbyezixFNDHlDfCh4F2KLM/view?usp=sharing">1982 article from the Washington Post, Sharpsburg Writer Turning Romance into Profits,</a>&nbsp;is one of the earliest mentions of her career in the mainstream media.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Nora’s bookstore&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ttpbooks.com">Turn the Page</a>&nbsp;is located in Boonsboro, Maryland. She hosts a community of readers at her website&nbsp;<a href="https://fallintothestory.com">Fall into the Story</a>, which includes&nbsp;<a href="https://fallintothestory.com/a-definitive-list/">a definitive list of things Eve and Roarke will never do.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Nora Roberts is a staunch defender of writers who have been victims of plagiarism,&nbsp;<a href="https://sites.duke.edu/unsuitable/plagiarism-in-romantic-fiction/">starting in 1997 when Janet Dailey stole from several of her books.</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://drive.google.com/file/d/190-6auczcaKpzY3DU7ALus7pa4PJvXbt/view">In December 1997, Romantic Times wrote about the plagiarism scandal</a>, and the previous month there were several&nbsp;<a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cXK-e7C-EtLBmd8vK2Oynf5WWNdUsIX8/view?usp=sharing">letters to the editor from romance readers</a>. More recently,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/24/books/nora-roberts-plagiarism.html">Nora sued a Brazilian writer who plagiarized the work of more than 40 romance novelists authors.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Nora Roberts took some time&nbsp;<a href="https://www.themarysue.com/nora-roberts-a-beautiful-destruction/">to explain the process to Debra</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Listen to our deep dive episode of&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/1/7/s0218-born-in-ice">Nora Roberts's Born in Ice</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Authors mentioned:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violet_Winspear">Violet Winspear</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/author/anne-mather~4976.htm">Anne Mather</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phyllis_A._Whitney">Phyllis Whitney</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleanor_Alice_Burford">Victoria Holt</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Stewart_(novelist)">Mary Stewart</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.newsweek.com/queen-hearts-gives-her-throne-172376">Janet Dailey</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_E._Woodiwiss">Kathleen E. Woodiwiss</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosemary_Rogers">Rosemary Rodgers</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ryanlangan.com">Ruth Langan</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixie_Browning">Dixie Browning</a>,&nbsp;<a href="http://www.patriciagaffney.com">Patricia Gaffney</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.marykaymccomas.com">Mary Kay McComas</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.fantasticfiction.com/f/elaine-fox/">Elaine Fox</a>,&nbsp;<a href="http://www.maryblayney.com">Mary Blayney</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Other people on Nora's team: Silhouette editor&nbsp;<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1985/06/25/issues/04f6cd21-df02-4bf7-a483-c7ca487af1d0/">Nancy Jackson</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.pw.org/literary_agents/amy_berkower">agent Amy Berkower</a>, editor&nbsp;<a href="https://charlierose.com/videos/20749">Isabel Swift</a>, editor&nbsp;<a href="https://www.adweek.com/galleycat/leslie-gelbman-joins-st-martins-press/120001">Leslie Gelbman</a>, and publicist&nbsp;<a href="https://omny.fm/shows/one-true-pairing/nora-roberts-is-bae-with-laura-reeth">Laura Reeth</a>.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The Trailblazer episodes continue this week with the Queen herself! Nora Roberts joins us today to talk about her longstanding career in romance—from her extremely relatable roots as a mom going mad in a snowstorm, to her deep rooted work ethic, to the plagiarism that rocked the publishing world. We talk about her place in the romance pantheon, about the reasons she thinks her books are so beloved, and about that one time her publisher called to tell her she was writing too much. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">It was an absolute pleasure to have Nora Roberts personally explain things to us; we’re beyond grateful to her for making time for Fated Mates. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thanks to Piper Rayne, authors of <a href="https://amzn.to/3uWAroa"><em>Sneaking Around With #34</em></a><em>, </em>and Kenya Goree-Bell, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3K9Ghsy"><em>California Love</em></a>, for sponsoring the episode.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our next read along is Diana Quincy’s <em>Her Night With the Duke</em>, which was on our Best of 2020 year-end list! Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3HBRdx3">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/her-night-with-the-duke-diana-quincy/1132291744">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/her-night-with-the-duke/id1493194498?itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_box_link&amp;ls=1">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/her-night-with-the-duke">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780062986795">at your local bookstore</a>. You can also<a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://www.chirpbooks.com/audiobooks/her-night-with-the-duke-by-diana-quincy"> get it in audio</a> from our partner, Chirp Books!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We are thrilled to have&nbsp;<a href="https://noraroberts.com">Nora Roberts</a>&nbsp;on the podcast today. Take a moment to read this&nbsp;<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2009/06/22/real-romance-2">2009 New Yorker profile about Nora and her career.</a>&nbsp;This&nbsp;<a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TNybzE0fh6HbyezixFNDHlDfCh4F2KLM/view?usp=sharing">1982 article from the Washington Post, Sharpsburg Writer Turning Romance into Profits,</a>&nbsp;is one of the earliest mentions of her career in the mainstream media.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Nora’s bookstore&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ttpbooks.com">Turn the Page</a>&nbsp;is located in Boonsboro, Maryland. She hosts a community of readers at her website&nbsp;<a href="https://fallintothestory.com">Fall into the Story</a>, which includes&nbsp;<a href="https://fallintothestory.com/a-definitive-list/">a definitive list of things Eve and Roarke will never do.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Nora Roberts is a staunch defender of writers who have been victims of plagiarism,&nbsp;<a href="https://sites.duke.edu/unsuitable/plagiarism-in-romantic-fiction/">starting in 1997 when Janet Dailey stole from several of her books.</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://drive.google.com/file/d/190-6auczcaKpzY3DU7ALus7pa4PJvXbt/view">In December 1997, Romantic Times wrote about the plagiarism scandal</a>, and the previous month there were several&nbsp;<a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cXK-e7C-EtLBmd8vK2Oynf5WWNdUsIX8/view?usp=sharing">letters to the editor from romance readers</a>. More recently,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/24/books/nora-roberts-plagiarism.html">Nora sued a Brazilian writer who plagiarized the work of more than 40 romance novelists authors.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Nora Roberts took some time&nbsp;<a href="https://www.themarysue.com/nora-roberts-a-beautiful-destruction/">to explain the process to Debra</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Listen to our deep dive episode of&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/1/7/s0218-born-in-ice">Nora Roberts's Born in Ice</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Authors mentioned:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violet_Winspear">Violet Winspear</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/author/anne-mather~4976.htm">Anne Mather</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phyllis_A._Whitney">Phyllis Whitney</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleanor_Alice_Burford">Victoria Holt</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Stewart_(novelist)">Mary Stewart</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.newsweek.com/queen-hearts-gives-her-throne-172376">Janet Dailey</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_E._Woodiwiss">Kathleen E. Woodiwiss</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosemary_Rogers">Rosemary Rodgers</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ryanlangan.com">Ruth Langan</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixie_Browning">Dixie Browning</a>,&nbsp;<a href="http://www.patriciagaffney.com">Patricia Gaffney</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.marykaymccomas.com">Mary Kay McComas</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.fantasticfiction.com/f/elaine-fox/">Elaine Fox</a>,&nbsp;<a href="http://www.maryblayney.com">Mary Blayney</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Other people on Nora's team: Silhouette editor&nbsp;<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1985/06/25/issues/04f6cd21-df02-4bf7-a483-c7ca487af1d0/">Nancy Jackson</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.pw.org/literary_agents/amy_berkower">agent Amy Berkower</a>, editor&nbsp;<a href="https://charlierose.com/videos/20749">Isabel Swift</a>, editor&nbsp;<a href="https://www.adweek.com/galleycat/leslie-gelbman-joins-st-martins-press/120001">Leslie Gelbman</a>, and publicist&nbsp;<a href="https://omny.fm/shows/one-true-pairing/nora-roberts-is-bae-with-laura-reeth">Laura Reeth</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/4/5/s0429-nora-roberts-trailblazer]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:624c6b31daf8bb5de0295d17</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/b9e0205f-13b6-4021-87d0-dbad7779a5c2/red-trailblazers.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2022 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/ad6cd37f-5519-4ed1-ba1a-1a556aa3891e/fated-mates-nora-roberts-trailblazer.mp3" length="102870641" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:41:30</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>33</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>33</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>The Trailblazer episodes continue this week with the Queen herself! Nora Roberts joins us today to talk about her longstanding career in romance—from her extremely relatable roots as a mom going mad in a snowstorm, to her deep rooted work ethic, to the plagiarism that rocked the publishing world. We talk about her place in the romance pantheon, about the reasons she thinks her books are so beloved, and about that one time her publisher called to tell her she was writing too much. 

It was an absolute pleasure to have Nora Roberts personally explain things to us; we’re beyond grateful to her for making time for Fated Mates. </itunes:summary></item><item><title>S04.28: Boss/Assistant Romance</title><itunes:title>Boss/Assistant Romance Interstitial</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We’re on a roll delivering interstitials about all our very favorite wild tropes, and this week we’re tackling boss/assistant romances! We’ll unpack the problematic bits, discuss the book that installed these deeply troubling buttons in us both, and fill your TBR pile to overflowing. Get your wallets and library cards ready! </p><p>Thanks to Avon Books, publisher of Nisha Sharma’s <em>Dating Dr. Dil</em>, and Piper Rayne, authors of <em>Lessons From a One Night Stand</em> for sponsoring the episode.</p><p>Next week, we’ve got a trailblazer episode! Our next read along is Diana Quincy’s Her Night With the Duke, which was on our Best of 2020 year-end list! Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3HBRdx3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/her-night-with-the-duke-diana-quincy/1132291744" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/her-night-with-the-duke/id1493194498?itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_box_link&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/her-night-with-the-duke" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780062986795" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">at your local bookstore</a>. You can also<a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://www.chirpbooks.com/audiobooks/her-night-with-the-duke-by-diana-quincy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> get it in audio</a> from our partner, Chirp Books!</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><ul><li>The Scholastic Inc. succession drama is honestly deserving of it's own Netflix series. Learn more about it from <a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://www.wsj.com/articles/scholastic-succession-lucchese-robinson-harry-potter-11637731535" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Wall Street Journal</a>, the <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/18/business/scholastic-iole-lucchese-succession-battle.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">New York Times</a> and <a href="https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2022/03/inside-the-succession-drama-at-scholastic" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vanity Fair</a>. Publishing loves drama but this is honestly almost too much.</li><li>If you're not receiving the <a href="https://www.bookbub.com/welcome" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookbub daily romance deal emails</a>, you should be. <a href="https://www.bookbub.com/authors/sarah-maclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Follow Sarah</a> while you're there!</li><li>Killing the dog is a <a href="https://flashfictionmagazine.com/blog/2021/09/26/writing-tip-23-never-kill-the-dog/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">very bold writing choice</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/series/harlequin-blaze~14033.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Harlequin Blaze</a> was a high heat category romance line from Harlequin that published monthly romances from 2001 to 2017. It was replaced with Harlequin Dare, a high-heat digital line.</li><li>Mystic Pizza remains a pure problematic fave here at Fated Mates, but we will always stan <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikqDLmNc678" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">pouring fish bait in your rich boyfriend's Porsche</a>. He should have told you he had a sister, Kat.</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We’re on a roll delivering interstitials about all our very favorite wild tropes, and this week we’re tackling boss/assistant romances! We’ll unpack the problematic bits, discuss the book that installed these deeply troubling buttons in us both, and fill your TBR pile to overflowing. Get your wallets and library cards ready! </p><p>Thanks to Avon Books, publisher of Nisha Sharma’s <em>Dating Dr. Dil</em>, and Piper Rayne, authors of <em>Lessons From a One Night Stand</em> for sponsoring the episode.</p><p>Next week, we’ve got a trailblazer episode! Our next read along is Diana Quincy’s Her Night With the Duke, which was on our Best of 2020 year-end list! Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3HBRdx3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/her-night-with-the-duke-diana-quincy/1132291744" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/her-night-with-the-duke/id1493194498?itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_box_link&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/her-night-with-the-duke" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780062986795" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">at your local bookstore</a>. You can also<a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://www.chirpbooks.com/audiobooks/her-night-with-the-duke-by-diana-quincy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> get it in audio</a> from our partner, Chirp Books!</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><ul><li>The Scholastic Inc. succession drama is honestly deserving of it's own Netflix series. Learn more about it from <a href="https://www.qksrv.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://www.wsj.com/articles/scholastic-succession-lucchese-robinson-harry-potter-11637731535" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Wall Street Journal</a>, the <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/18/business/scholastic-iole-lucchese-succession-battle.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">New York Times</a> and <a href="https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2022/03/inside-the-succession-drama-at-scholastic" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vanity Fair</a>. Publishing loves drama but this is honestly almost too much.</li><li>If you're not receiving the <a href="https://www.bookbub.com/welcome" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookbub daily romance deal emails</a>, you should be. <a href="https://www.bookbub.com/authors/sarah-maclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Follow Sarah</a> while you're there!</li><li>Killing the dog is a <a href="https://flashfictionmagazine.com/blog/2021/09/26/writing-tip-23-never-kill-the-dog/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">very bold writing choice</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/series/harlequin-blaze~14033.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Harlequin Blaze</a> was a high heat category romance line from Harlequin that published monthly romances from 2001 to 2017. It was replaced with Harlequin Dare, a high-heat digital line.</li><li>Mystic Pizza remains a pure problematic fave here at Fated Mates, but we will always stan <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikqDLmNc678" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">pouring fish bait in your rich boyfriend's Porsche</a>. He should have told you he had a sister, Kat.</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/3/28/s0428-boss-assistant-romances-interstitial]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:6242324a80860631cf4b6555</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2022 13:06:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/c7a9cdfc-741c-4a22-874a-6f5d35fd42d2/fated-mates-boss-assistant-romance-reva.mp3" length="93314014" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:29:20</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>32</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>32</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We’re on a roll delivering interstitials about all our very favorite wild tropes, and this week we’re tackling boss/assistant romances! We’ll unpack the problematic bits, discuss the book that installed these deeply troubling buttons in us both, and fill your TBR pile to overflowing. Get your wallets and library cards ready!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-c7a9cdfc-741c-4a22-874a-6f5d35fd42d2.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S04.27: Nine Questions about Nine Rules</title><itunes:title>S04.27: Nine Questions about Nine Rules</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">It’s a Very Special Episode™️ of Fated Mates today, celebrating the rerelease of Sarah’s first book, Nine Rules to Break When Romancing a Rake! We talk about the book that started Sarah’s romance career, about why it still resonates, about new covers during a pandemic, and yes…we get to the bottom of the age old question: <em>Will Benedick Ever Get a Book?</em></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">You can buy the new Nine Rules at <a href="https://amzn.to/3iuajeP">Amazon</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/9Rules2022BN">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/9Rules2022Bookshop">Bookshop</a>, and get signed copies at <a href="http://shop.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean">WORD</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">This episode is sponsored by Adriana Herrera, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/37FMDS3"><em>The Duke Makes Me Feel</em></a> and <a href="https://www.romancelandiashop.com">The Romancelandia Shop</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our read along next week is Diana Quincy’s <em>Her Night With the Duke</em>, which was on our Best of 2020 year-end list! Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3HBRdx3">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/her-night-with-the-duke-diana-quincy/1132291744">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/her-night-with-the-duke/id1493194498?itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_box_link&amp;ls=1">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/her-night-with-the-duke">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780062986795">at your local bookstore</a>. You can also<a href="https://www.chirpbooks.com/audiobooks/her-night-with-the-duke-by-diana-quincy"> get it in audio</a> from Chirp Books!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">This&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/douglasmack/status/1391570929180884998?s=20&amp;t=BFNMTms3vVUNtZ59BPVhWA">tweet about Car Talk</a>&nbsp;made Jen laugh. It really was the greatest NPR show of all time, and since they are no dummies, they have in fact&nbsp;<a href="https://www.npr.org/podcasts/510208/car-talk">made it into a podcast</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Buy the books with stepbacks now, because we aren’t sure how long they are going to last. Lots of folks participate in&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/StepbackSaturday?f=live&amp;src=hashtag_click">#StepbackSaturday</a>&nbsp;on Twitter and Instagram to share their favorites.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Sarah's agent at the time was&nbsp;<a href="https://www.birchpathliterary.com">Alyssa Eisner-Henkin</a>, who is still a great YA and children's agent!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Sarah's editor is still Carrie Feron, who has edited romance for her entire career. Authors she has edited include Lisa Kleypas, Susan Elizabeth Phillips, Sally Thorne, Jude Deveraux, Elizabeth Lowell and Eloisa James.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The name of the documentary about romance is called&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/LkhpNrtJCv0">Love Beneath the Covers (2016</a>), which is a fascinating look at the romance genre.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://amzn.to/3D2YZPJ">Where's My Hero</a>&nbsp;is a romance anthology that featured some of the good guys, and it's available in eBook and print.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">It’s a Very Special Episode™️ of Fated Mates today, celebrating the rerelease of Sarah’s first book, Nine Rules to Break When Romancing a Rake! We talk about the book that started Sarah’s romance career, about why it still resonates, about new covers during a pandemic, and yes…we get to the bottom of the age old question: <em>Will Benedick Ever Get a Book?</em></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">You can buy the new Nine Rules at <a href="https://amzn.to/3iuajeP">Amazon</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/9Rules2022BN">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/9Rules2022Bookshop">Bookshop</a>, and get signed copies at <a href="http://shop.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean">WORD</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">This episode is sponsored by Adriana Herrera, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/37FMDS3"><em>The Duke Makes Me Feel</em></a> and <a href="https://www.romancelandiashop.com">The Romancelandia Shop</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our read along next week is Diana Quincy’s <em>Her Night With the Duke</em>, which was on our Best of 2020 year-end list! Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3HBRdx3">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/her-night-with-the-duke-diana-quincy/1132291744">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/her-night-with-the-duke/id1493194498?itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_box_link&amp;ls=1">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/her-night-with-the-duke">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780062986795">at your local bookstore</a>. You can also<a href="https://www.chirpbooks.com/audiobooks/her-night-with-the-duke-by-diana-quincy"> get it in audio</a> from Chirp Books!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">This&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/douglasmack/status/1391570929180884998?s=20&amp;t=BFNMTms3vVUNtZ59BPVhWA">tweet about Car Talk</a>&nbsp;made Jen laugh. It really was the greatest NPR show of all time, and since they are no dummies, they have in fact&nbsp;<a href="https://www.npr.org/podcasts/510208/car-talk">made it into a podcast</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Buy the books with stepbacks now, because we aren’t sure how long they are going to last. Lots of folks participate in&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/StepbackSaturday?f=live&amp;src=hashtag_click">#StepbackSaturday</a>&nbsp;on Twitter and Instagram to share their favorites.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Sarah's agent at the time was&nbsp;<a href="https://www.birchpathliterary.com">Alyssa Eisner-Henkin</a>, who is still a great YA and children's agent!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Sarah's editor is still Carrie Feron, who has edited romance for her entire career. Authors she has edited include Lisa Kleypas, Susan Elizabeth Phillips, Sally Thorne, Jude Deveraux, Elizabeth Lowell and Eloisa James.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The name of the documentary about romance is called&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/LkhpNrtJCv0">Love Beneath the Covers (2016</a>), which is a fascinating look at the romance genre.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://amzn.to/3D2YZPJ">Where's My Hero</a>&nbsp;is a romance anthology that featured some of the good guys, and it's available in eBook and print.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/3/19/s0427-nine-questions-about-nine-rules]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:62363e353264e77428ec0230</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/e6b6cde0-edfd-4e3f-b62c-fa7a64d5dfb5/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2022 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/fd993fcf-3c69-4bb9-9053-5a2e2b8997c1/fated-mates-nine-rules-to-break-when-romancing-a-rake-reva.mp3" length="67557055" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:05:34</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>31</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>31</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>It’s a Very Special Episode™️ of Fated Mates today, celebrating the rerelease of Sarah’s first book, Nine Rules to Break When Romancing a Rake! We talk about the book that started Sarah’s romance career, about why it still resonates, about new covers during a pandemic, and yes…we get to the bottom of the age old question: Will Benedick Ever Get a Book?</itunes:summary></item><item><title>S04.26: Jeannie Lin: Trailblazer</title><itunes:title>Jeannie Lin: A Trailblazer Episode</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Our Trailblazer episodes continue this week with Jeannie Lin, one of the first authors to write historical romance featuring Asian characters set in Asia. Her debut romance, <em>Butterfly Swords</em>, is set in Tang Dynasty China. </p><p>In this episode, we talk about the craft of romance, about preparing for and resisting rejection while finding her own path to publication, about how she honed her storytelling, and about the way cultural archetypes find their way to the page. We also talk about the lightning fast changes in romance over the last twelve years. Thank you to Jeannie Lin for making time for Fated Mates. </p><p>This episode is sponsored by <a href="https://www.steamylit.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Steam Box</a> (use code FATEDMATES for 10% off) and <a href="https://chirp.fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chirp Audiobooks</a>.</p><p>Next week, we’re talking Sarah’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3iuajeP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Nine Rules to Break When Romancing a Rake</em></a>, which will release March 22 in a new trade paperback format. After that, our next read along is Diana Quincy’s <em>Her Night With the Duke</em>, which was on our Best of 2020 year-end list! Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3HBRdx3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.anrdoezrs.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/her-night-with-the-duke-diana-quincy/1132291744" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/her-night-with-the-duke/id1493194498?itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_box_link&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/her-night-with-the-duke" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780062986795" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">at your local bookstore</a>. You can also<a href="https://www.anrdoezrs.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://www.chirpbooks.com/audiobooks/her-night-with-the-duke-by-diana-quincy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> get it in audio</a> from our partner, Chirp Books!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><p>This week, we welcome&nbsp;<a href="http://www.jeannielin.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">romance author Jeannie Lin</a>, whose newest book in the Lotus Palace Mysteries series,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3tctlfA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Red Blossom in Snow,</a>&nbsp;comes out next week on March 21, 2022.&nbsp;</p><p>Hear us talk about Jeannie Lin's books on our&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/11/23/s0316-best-romance-novels-of-2020" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2020 Best of the Year episode</a>, our&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/1/18/55-road-trip-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Road Trip Interstitial</a>, and our&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/1/14/s0219-so-you-want-to-read-a-historical" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">So You Want to Read a Historical</a>&nbsp;episode.</p><p><a href="https://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/tang/hd_tang.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Tang Dynasty</a>&nbsp;lasted from 618-907, and&nbsp;<a href="http://projects.leadr.msu.edu/traditionaleastasia/exhibits/show/badass-female-rulers/empress-wu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Empress Wu</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-demonization-of-empress-wu-20743091/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">reigned from</a>&nbsp;624-705.&nbsp;</p><p>RWA's&nbsp;<a href="https://www.rwa.org/Online/Awards/Golden_Heart/GH_Award.aspx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Golden Heart Award</a>&nbsp;was phased out in 2019.&nbsp;</p><p>Twitter was launched in 2006 and Goodreads in 2007. Goodreads was acquired by Amazon in 2013. Borders Books closed in 2011.&nbsp;</p><p>People mentioned: author&nbsp;<a href="https://kathylyons.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jade Lee</a>, who also writes as Kathy Lyons; author&nbsp;<a href="https://barbaraankrum.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barbara Ankrum</a>; author&nbsp;<a href="https://www.shawntellemadison.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shawntell Madison</a>; author&nbsp;<a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/author/amanda-berry~64354.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amanda Berry</a>; author&nbsp;<a href="https://www.anrdoezrs.net/links/100562072/type/am/http://briaquinlan.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bria Quinlan</a>; author&nbsp;<a href="https://edenbradley.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Eden Bradley</a>&nbsp;of&nbsp;<a href="https://romancedivas.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Romance Divas forum</a>; author&nbsp;<a href="https://katepearce.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kate Pearce</a>; actor&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/KkNBh24cLvo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tony Leung</a>; Piatkus editor&nbsp;<a href="https://romanceaustralia.com/interview-with-anna-boatman-from-piatkus/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Anna Boatman</a>; agent&nbsp;<a href="https://www.talbotfortuneagency.com/agent-bios" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gail Fortune</a>.</p><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/3/15/s0426-jeannie-lin-a-trailblazer-episode </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our Trailblazer episodes continue this week with Jeannie Lin, one of the first authors to write historical romance featuring Asian characters set in Asia. Her debut romance, <em>Butterfly Swords</em>, is set in Tang Dynasty China. </p><p>In this episode, we talk about the craft of romance, about preparing for and resisting rejection while finding her own path to publication, about how she honed her storytelling, and about the way cultural archetypes find their way to the page. We also talk about the lightning fast changes in romance over the last twelve years. Thank you to Jeannie Lin for making time for Fated Mates. </p><p>This episode is sponsored by <a href="https://www.steamylit.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Steam Box</a> (use code FATEDMATES for 10% off) and <a href="https://chirp.fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chirp Audiobooks</a>.</p><p>Next week, we’re talking Sarah’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3iuajeP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Nine Rules to Break When Romancing a Rake</em></a>, which will release March 22 in a new trade paperback format. After that, our next read along is Diana Quincy’s <em>Her Night With the Duke</em>, which was on our Best of 2020 year-end list! Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3HBRdx3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.anrdoezrs.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/her-night-with-the-duke-diana-quincy/1132291744" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/her-night-with-the-duke/id1493194498?itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_box_link&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/her-night-with-the-duke" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780062986795" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">at your local bookstore</a>. You can also<a href="https://www.anrdoezrs.net/links/100562072/type/am/https://www.chirpbooks.com/audiobooks/her-night-with-the-duke-by-diana-quincy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> get it in audio</a> from our partner, Chirp Books!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><p>This week, we welcome&nbsp;<a href="http://www.jeannielin.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">romance author Jeannie Lin</a>, whose newest book in the Lotus Palace Mysteries series,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3tctlfA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Red Blossom in Snow,</a>&nbsp;comes out next week on March 21, 2022.&nbsp;</p><p>Hear us talk about Jeannie Lin's books on our&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/11/23/s0316-best-romance-novels-of-2020" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2020 Best of the Year episode</a>, our&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/1/18/55-road-trip-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Road Trip Interstitial</a>, and our&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/1/14/s0219-so-you-want-to-read-a-historical" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">So You Want to Read a Historical</a>&nbsp;episode.</p><p><a href="https://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/tang/hd_tang.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Tang Dynasty</a>&nbsp;lasted from 618-907, and&nbsp;<a href="http://projects.leadr.msu.edu/traditionaleastasia/exhibits/show/badass-female-rulers/empress-wu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Empress Wu</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-demonization-of-empress-wu-20743091/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">reigned from</a>&nbsp;624-705.&nbsp;</p><p>RWA's&nbsp;<a href="https://www.rwa.org/Online/Awards/Golden_Heart/GH_Award.aspx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Golden Heart Award</a>&nbsp;was phased out in 2019.&nbsp;</p><p>Twitter was launched in 2006 and Goodreads in 2007. Goodreads was acquired by Amazon in 2013. Borders Books closed in 2011.&nbsp;</p><p>People mentioned: author&nbsp;<a href="https://kathylyons.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jade Lee</a>, who also writes as Kathy Lyons; author&nbsp;<a href="https://barbaraankrum.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barbara Ankrum</a>; author&nbsp;<a href="https://www.shawntellemadison.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shawntell Madison</a>; author&nbsp;<a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/author/amanda-berry~64354.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amanda Berry</a>; author&nbsp;<a href="https://www.anrdoezrs.net/links/100562072/type/am/http://briaquinlan.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bria Quinlan</a>; author&nbsp;<a href="https://edenbradley.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Eden Bradley</a>&nbsp;of&nbsp;<a href="https://romancedivas.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Romance Divas forum</a>; author&nbsp;<a href="https://katepearce.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kate Pearce</a>; actor&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/KkNBh24cLvo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tony Leung</a>; Piatkus editor&nbsp;<a href="https://romanceaustralia.com/interview-with-anna-boatman-from-piatkus/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Anna Boatman</a>; agent&nbsp;<a href="https://www.talbotfortuneagency.com/agent-bios" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gail Fortune</a>.</p><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/3/15/s0426-jeannie-lin-a-trailblazer-episode </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/3/15/s0426-jeannie-lin-a-trailblazer-episode]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:62310ce26f5100160aaafb38</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/8cc4a705-950b-408e-9f2b-0f2f81f7b7cb/red-trailblazers.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2022 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/824c0cda-7695-4bff-938e-3300a076040a/fated-mates-trailblazers-jeannie-lin-reva.mp3" length="91632236" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:30:20</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>30</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>30</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Our Trailblazer episodes continue this week with Jeannie Lin, one of the first authors to write historical romance featuring Asian characters set in Asia. Her debut romance, Butterfly Swords, is set in Tang Dynasty China. 

In this episode, we talk about the craft of romance, about preparing for and resisting rejection while finding her own path to publication, about how she honed her storytelling, and about the way cultural archetypes find their way to the page. We also talk about the lightning fast changes in romance over the last twelve years. Thank you to Jeannie Lin for making time for Fated Mates.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-824c0cda-7695-4bff-938e-3300a076040a.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S04.25: Waking Up Married&quot; Romance</title><itunes:title>&quot;Waking Up Married&quot; Romance</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We’re still doomscrolling, so we’re still releasing goofy, bantr-y episodes about tropes we cannot quit! This week, we’re talking about a very specific one that we adore — Waking up Married! We talk about Vegas, about why you shouldn’t drink and espouse, about The Hangover, and about how…when a trope ain’t broke, you definitely shouldn’t fix it.</p><p>This episode is sponsored by Christi Caldwell, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3IXf6R4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>For Love of the Duke</em></a>, and <a href="https://bit.ly/betterhelpfm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">BetterHelp Online Therapy</a>.</p><p>Next week, we’ve got a trailblazer episode! Our next read along is Diana Quincy’s Her Night With the Duke, which was on our Best of 2020 year-end list! Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3HBRdx3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/her-night-with-the-duke-diana-quincy/1132291744" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/her-night-with-the-duke/id1493194498?itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_box_link&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/her-night-with-the-duke" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780062986795" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">at your local bookstore</a>. You can also<a href="https://www.chirpbooks.com/audiobooks/her-night-with-the-duke-by-diana-quincy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> get it in audio</a> from our partner, Chirp Books!</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p>You might be wondering how&nbsp;<a href="https://thehustle.co/how-las-vegas-became-the-worlds-quickie-wedding-capital/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Las Vegas became the wedding capital of America.</a></p><p>Jen and Sarah have some strong feelings about phones!&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/1OADXNGnJok" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The rotary phone</a>&nbsp;was a real trip. Back in 1996, when Jen was in Houston doing TFA,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_codes_713,_281,_832,_and_346#:~:text=On%20March%2019%2C%201983%2C%20the,switching%20to%20area%20code%20281." rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">they added 281 to the Houston area codes</a>&nbsp;(yes, she said zip code on the pod, but you know what she meant!), but by now we’re over having&nbsp;<a href="https://blog.chron.com/thetexican/2013/05/wait-area-code-pride-is-still-a-thing/?cmpid=hpfsln" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">area code pride</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>Meanwhile, we still want to know&nbsp;<a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/kalevleetaru/2017/11/29/in-a-voip-world-why-does-it-still-cost-20-for-a-10-minute-international-call/?sh=75cf89b725e5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">why international dialing is so expensive.</a></p><p>I’m sorry to report that we don’t ever think we’ll have a Fated Mates&nbsp;<a href="https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360056272051-Discord-Sucks" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Discord,</a>&nbsp;and whatever&nbsp;<a href="https://www.quordle.com#/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Quordle</a>&nbsp;is, that’s not the way Jen’s brain works.</p><p>Help us make a Fated Mates glossary by&nbsp;<a href="https://forms.gle/jNJeTCNfQATEt2ng6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">filling out this form</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>You should all listen to&nbsp;<a href="https://onbeing.org/series/podcast/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">On Being with Krista Tippet</a>, which is a podcast dedicated to answering questions about what it means to be human.</p><p>It’s not wonder kid, it’s&nbsp;<a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/wunderkind" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wunderkind</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://hollywoodlife.com/2021/09/03/ted-lasso-nate-will-wonder-kid-jersey-episode-7-interview/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Just ask Nate</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>Not that kind of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.the-sun.com/news/3375037/what-prince-albert-piercing-name/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Prince Albert</a>.&nbsp;</p><p><a href="https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/the-hangover-2009" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Hangover</a>&nbsp;is a very funny movie.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We’re still doomscrolling, so we’re still releasing goofy, bantr-y episodes about tropes we cannot quit! This week, we’re talking about a very specific one that we adore — Waking up Married! We talk about Vegas, about why you shouldn’t drink and espouse, about The Hangover, and about how…when a trope ain’t broke, you definitely shouldn’t fix it.</p><p>This episode is sponsored by Christi Caldwell, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3IXf6R4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>For Love of the Duke</em></a>, and <a href="https://bit.ly/betterhelpfm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">BetterHelp Online Therapy</a>.</p><p>Next week, we’ve got a trailblazer episode! Our next read along is Diana Quincy’s Her Night With the Duke, which was on our Best of 2020 year-end list! Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3HBRdx3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/her-night-with-the-duke-diana-quincy/1132291744" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/her-night-with-the-duke/id1493194498?itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_box_link&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/her-night-with-the-duke" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780062986795" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">at your local bookstore</a>. You can also<a href="https://www.chirpbooks.com/audiobooks/her-night-with-the-duke-by-diana-quincy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> get it in audio</a> from our partner, Chirp Books!</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p>You might be wondering how&nbsp;<a href="https://thehustle.co/how-las-vegas-became-the-worlds-quickie-wedding-capital/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Las Vegas became the wedding capital of America.</a></p><p>Jen and Sarah have some strong feelings about phones!&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/1OADXNGnJok" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The rotary phone</a>&nbsp;was a real trip. Back in 1996, when Jen was in Houston doing TFA,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_codes_713,_281,_832,_and_346#:~:text=On%20March%2019%2C%201983%2C%20the,switching%20to%20area%20code%20281." rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">they added 281 to the Houston area codes</a>&nbsp;(yes, she said zip code on the pod, but you know what she meant!), but by now we’re over having&nbsp;<a href="https://blog.chron.com/thetexican/2013/05/wait-area-code-pride-is-still-a-thing/?cmpid=hpfsln" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">area code pride</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>Meanwhile, we still want to know&nbsp;<a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/kalevleetaru/2017/11/29/in-a-voip-world-why-does-it-still-cost-20-for-a-10-minute-international-call/?sh=75cf89b725e5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">why international dialing is so expensive.</a></p><p>I’m sorry to report that we don’t ever think we’ll have a Fated Mates&nbsp;<a href="https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360056272051-Discord-Sucks" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Discord,</a>&nbsp;and whatever&nbsp;<a href="https://www.quordle.com#/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Quordle</a>&nbsp;is, that’s not the way Jen’s brain works.</p><p>Help us make a Fated Mates glossary by&nbsp;<a href="https://forms.gle/jNJeTCNfQATEt2ng6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">filling out this form</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>You should all listen to&nbsp;<a href="https://onbeing.org/series/podcast/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">On Being with Krista Tippet</a>, which is a podcast dedicated to answering questions about what it means to be human.</p><p>It’s not wonder kid, it’s&nbsp;<a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/wunderkind" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wunderkind</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://hollywoodlife.com/2021/09/03/ted-lasso-nate-will-wonder-kid-jersey-episode-7-interview/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Just ask Nate</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>Not that kind of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.the-sun.com/news/3375037/what-prince-albert-piercing-name/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Prince Albert</a>.&nbsp;</p><p><a href="https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/the-hangover-2009" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Hangover</a>&nbsp;is a very funny movie.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/3/7/s0425-the-waking-up-married-romance-interstitial]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:6226934f226446421d04d89b</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2022 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/c4a946b8-5069-42fa-a284-a503ceeed08f/fated-mates-woke-up-married.mp3" length="56999237" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>54:04</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>29</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>29</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We’re still doomscrolling, so we’re still releasing goofy, bantr-y episodes about tropes we cannot quit! This week, we’re talking about a very specific one that we adore — Waking up Married! We talk about Vegas, about why you shouldn’t drink and espouse, about The Hangover, and about how…when a trope ain’t broke, you definitely shouldn’t fix it.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-c4a946b8-5069-42fa-a284-a503ceeed08f.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S04.24: The London Hale Oeuvre</title><itunes:title>S04.24: The London Hale Oeuvre</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Welp, we’re back in a doom scrolling spiral this week, so why not take a visit to a small town full of hot single dads and firemen? We’re reading London Hale this week, and talking about the appeal of the quick and dirty romance! We’ll also talk about the value of a genuinely hot read and where all the stops are on the romance-to-erotica spectrum. We’re also talking about kinks and why daddies are installed in so many of us. Basically, we’re telling y’all to read these London Hale books so they’ll write more of them for us. Thanks for listening! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">This episode is sponsored by Kennedy Ryan, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3McAIel"><em>Reel</em></a>, and <a href="https://bit.ly/betterhelpfm">BetterHelp Online Therapy</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our next read along is Diana Quincy’s Her Night With the Duke, which was on our Best of 2020 year-end list! Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3HBRdx3">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/her-night-with-the-duke-diana-quincy/1132291744">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/her-night-with-the-duke/id1493194498?itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_box_link&amp;ls=1">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/her-night-with-the-duke">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780062986795">at your local bookstore</a>. You can also get it in audio from our partner, Chirp Books!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Authors Ellis Leigh and Brighton Walsh are the two authors who write as&nbsp;<a href="https://www.fantasticfiction.com/h/london-hale/">London Hale.</a>&nbsp;Sarah talked about their books back on&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/2/18/s0224-quick-and-dirty-romance-interstitial">the Quick and Dirty interstitial in Season 2</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">You should read&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3hwcayS">Circe</a>. And&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3HDFBJU">Jack Reacher</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you've run out of&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/12/31/jessa-kane-new-years-eve-extravaganza">Jessa Kane books</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/35JDZBf">try Chloe Maine</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">There is not a Harlequin Presents called The Pregnant Billionaire’s Italian Mistress, but you can find&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3sypsBl">The Italian’s Pregnant Mistress</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3vzXzdV">The Italian Billionaire's Pregnant Bride</a>,&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3htwn8i">The Italian’s Pregnant Cinderella</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3ICjsNk">The Italian’s Pregnant Virgin</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3IEAOt2">The Italian’s Pregnancy Proposal</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3IvJfXw">The Italian’s Pregnant Prisoner.&nbsp;</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.countryliving.com/life/entertainment/g4719/photos-robert-redford-over-the-years/">Robert Redford</a>&nbsp;was a snack. So was&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/richard-gere-had-to-be-convinced-to-play-edward-lewis-in-pretty-woman.html/">Richard Gere</a>&nbsp;both in Pretty Woman and in “the one where he’s an Air Force pilot.”&nbsp;<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084434/">(An Officer and a Gentleman, and it was the Navy. Fine.)</a>&nbsp;We also admire the silver fox good looks of&nbsp;<a href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/32/Benicio_Del_Toro_-_Guardians_of_the_Galaxy_premiere_-_July_2014_%28cropped%29.jpg">Benecio del Toro</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/39/Idris_Elba-4764_%28cropped%29.jpg">Idris Elba</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/af9f6b4c6bc8957dfdbff1fdd8b68374fafc4183/1488_1774_2973_1784/master/2973.jpg?auto=format&amp;fit=crop&amp;height=1200&amp;quality=85&amp;s=ffb7f4e55dbcac23e36f0a431f8d6cd4&amp;width=1200">George Clooney</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Andie J. Christopher coined the phrase “stern brunch daddy” and we’re all better off for it. Unfortunately, she’s the kind of person who deletes old tweets so you can't see that picture of Oscar Isaac with an eating utensil that inspired it,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/RomanceBooks/comments/n23ntd/i_learned_a_new_term_today_and_want_some_stern/">but luckily they talked about it on Reddit</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-wicked-wallflowers-club/id1312659727?i=1000442797356">Andie talked about it on the Wicked Wallflowers Podcast</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/7/13/s0347-taboo-romance-interstitial-with-nikki-sloane">We’re constantly trying to explain the difference between Romance vs erotic romance vs erotica.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The Great Stepbrother Explosion was mostly 2015-2016, but I’m willing to talk some more about it or cite sources if you have them.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/365_Days_(2020_film)">The 2020 Netflix movie 365 Days</a>&nbsp;was originally released in Poland under the name 365 dni and was based on a book by Blanka Lipinska. Apparently, there will be a sequel. It doesn’t have a release date, but we’ll keep you updated,&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/vGld5eyP7JY">baby girl</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://twitter.com/jo_brenner">Jo Brenner</a>&nbsp;and her friends have a gray scale for dark romance, and I hope she’ll explain it all on twitter so I can link to it.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Does calling a stranger for phone sex still exist–I bet you’re shocked to find out that there was&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thecut.com/2020/08/what-its-like-to-be-a-phone-sex-operator-in-a-pandemic.html">an uptick in demand during the pandemic.&nbsp;</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">In editing,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/1996/10/06/magazine/of-hacks-and-tk.html">TK means “to come”</a>&nbsp;as in I’ll fill it in later.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/news-and-features/articles/sports-related-head-injuries-romance-fiction-leagu/">In Fumbled by Alexa Martin, it stands for Trevor Kyle</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Eucalyptus is native to Australia and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.eucalyptus-trees.co.uk/AboutGumTrees/history-origins-eucalyptus-trees.html">was introduced to England in 1774.&nbsp;</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">You should follow the&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/RomanceSmells">Male scent catalog on twitter</a>, and if you want to read more about it, check out the book&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3ppX8yY">Nose Dive: A Field Guide to the World’s Smells.</a></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Welp, we’re back in a doom scrolling spiral this week, so why not take a visit to a small town full of hot single dads and firemen? We’re reading London Hale this week, and talking about the appeal of the quick and dirty romance! We’ll also talk about the value of a genuinely hot read and where all the stops are on the romance-to-erotica spectrum. We’re also talking about kinks and why daddies are installed in so many of us. Basically, we’re telling y’all to read these London Hale books so they’ll write more of them for us. Thanks for listening! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">This episode is sponsored by Kennedy Ryan, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3McAIel"><em>Reel</em></a>, and <a href="https://bit.ly/betterhelpfm">BetterHelp Online Therapy</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our next read along is Diana Quincy’s Her Night With the Duke, which was on our Best of 2020 year-end list! Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3HBRdx3">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/her-night-with-the-duke-diana-quincy/1132291744">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/her-night-with-the-duke/id1493194498?itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_box_link&amp;ls=1">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/her-night-with-the-duke">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780062986795">at your local bookstore</a>. You can also get it in audio from our partner, Chirp Books!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Authors Ellis Leigh and Brighton Walsh are the two authors who write as&nbsp;<a href="https://www.fantasticfiction.com/h/london-hale/">London Hale.</a>&nbsp;Sarah talked about their books back on&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/2/18/s0224-quick-and-dirty-romance-interstitial">the Quick and Dirty interstitial in Season 2</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">You should read&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3hwcayS">Circe</a>. And&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3HDFBJU">Jack Reacher</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you've run out of&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/12/31/jessa-kane-new-years-eve-extravaganza">Jessa Kane books</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/35JDZBf">try Chloe Maine</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">There is not a Harlequin Presents called The Pregnant Billionaire’s Italian Mistress, but you can find&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3sypsBl">The Italian’s Pregnant Mistress</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3vzXzdV">The Italian Billionaire's Pregnant Bride</a>,&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3htwn8i">The Italian’s Pregnant Cinderella</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3ICjsNk">The Italian’s Pregnant Virgin</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3IEAOt2">The Italian’s Pregnancy Proposal</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3IvJfXw">The Italian’s Pregnant Prisoner.&nbsp;</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.countryliving.com/life/entertainment/g4719/photos-robert-redford-over-the-years/">Robert Redford</a>&nbsp;was a snack. So was&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/richard-gere-had-to-be-convinced-to-play-edward-lewis-in-pretty-woman.html/">Richard Gere</a>&nbsp;both in Pretty Woman and in “the one where he’s an Air Force pilot.”&nbsp;<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084434/">(An Officer and a Gentleman, and it was the Navy. Fine.)</a>&nbsp;We also admire the silver fox good looks of&nbsp;<a href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/32/Benicio_Del_Toro_-_Guardians_of_the_Galaxy_premiere_-_July_2014_%28cropped%29.jpg">Benecio del Toro</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/39/Idris_Elba-4764_%28cropped%29.jpg">Idris Elba</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/af9f6b4c6bc8957dfdbff1fdd8b68374fafc4183/1488_1774_2973_1784/master/2973.jpg?auto=format&amp;fit=crop&amp;height=1200&amp;quality=85&amp;s=ffb7f4e55dbcac23e36f0a431f8d6cd4&amp;width=1200">George Clooney</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Andie J. Christopher coined the phrase “stern brunch daddy” and we’re all better off for it. Unfortunately, she’s the kind of person who deletes old tweets so you can't see that picture of Oscar Isaac with an eating utensil that inspired it,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/RomanceBooks/comments/n23ntd/i_learned_a_new_term_today_and_want_some_stern/">but luckily they talked about it on Reddit</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-wicked-wallflowers-club/id1312659727?i=1000442797356">Andie talked about it on the Wicked Wallflowers Podcast</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/7/13/s0347-taboo-romance-interstitial-with-nikki-sloane">We’re constantly trying to explain the difference between Romance vs erotic romance vs erotica.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The Great Stepbrother Explosion was mostly 2015-2016, but I’m willing to talk some more about it or cite sources if you have them.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/365_Days_(2020_film)">The 2020 Netflix movie 365 Days</a>&nbsp;was originally released in Poland under the name 365 dni and was based on a book by Blanka Lipinska. Apparently, there will be a sequel. It doesn’t have a release date, but we’ll keep you updated,&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/vGld5eyP7JY">baby girl</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://twitter.com/jo_brenner">Jo Brenner</a>&nbsp;and her friends have a gray scale for dark romance, and I hope she’ll explain it all on twitter so I can link to it.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Does calling a stranger for phone sex still exist–I bet you’re shocked to find out that there was&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thecut.com/2020/08/what-its-like-to-be-a-phone-sex-operator-in-a-pandemic.html">an uptick in demand during the pandemic.&nbsp;</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">In editing,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/1996/10/06/magazine/of-hacks-and-tk.html">TK means “to come”</a>&nbsp;as in I’ll fill it in later.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/news-and-features/articles/sports-related-head-injuries-romance-fiction-leagu/">In Fumbled by Alexa Martin, it stands for Trevor Kyle</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Eucalyptus is native to Australia and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.eucalyptus-trees.co.uk/AboutGumTrees/history-origins-eucalyptus-trees.html">was introduced to England in 1774.&nbsp;</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">You should follow the&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/RomanceSmells">Male scent catalog on twitter</a>, and if you want to read more about it, check out the book&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3ppX8yY">Nose Dive: A Field Guide to the World’s Smells.</a></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/3/1/s0424-the-london-hale-oeuvre]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:621ea3e374cd0159573178a0</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/a4819b73-0579-44b1-a40a-f2c027acd540/pink-read-along.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2022 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/83d4f9d3-4847-4c0c-a28d-04ffd1fbdd8b/fated-mates-london-hale-final.mp3" length="86912807" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:25:58</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>28</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>28</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Welp, we’re back in a doom scrolling spiral this week, so why not take a visit to a small town full of hot single dads and firemen? We’re reading London Hale this week, and talking about the appeal of the quick and dirty romance! We’ll also talk about the value of a genuinely hot read and where all the stops are on the romance-to-erotica spectrum. We’re also talking about kinks and why daddies are installed in so many of us. Basically, we’re telling y’all to read these London Hale books so they’ll write more of them for us. Thanks for listening! 

This episode is sponsored by Kennedy Ryan, author of Reel, and BetterHelp Online Therapy.

Our next read along is Diana Quincy’s Her Night With the Duke, which was on our Best of 2020 year-end list! Get it at Amazon, Barnes &amp; Noble, Apple Books, Kobo, or at your local bookstore. You can also get it in audio from our partner, Chirp Books!</itunes:summary></item><item><title>S04.23: Fake Dating Romance</title><itunes:title>Fake Dating Romance</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>You can’t throw a stone in romance in 2022 without hitting a fake dating story, so we figure it’s time to do an interstitial on it! We’re talking about when it works, why it works, how it works, and by whom it works, so get your library cards ready because this one will topple your TBR! While this one is, as always, for the readers,  there’s lots of goal/motivation/conflict here for the writers, too.  Thanks for listening! </p><p>This episode is sponsored by Isla Moore, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3p3QCxG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Jennifer Files</em></a>, and <a href="https://bit.ly/betterhelpfm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">BetterHelp Online Therapy</a>.</p><p>Our next read along will feature some of Sarah’s favorite quick &amp; dirty books by London Hale, the pen name of authors Ellis Leigh and Brighton Walsh. Their <a href="https://amzn.to/3ryEuX2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Temperance Falls</a> series is full of kinks and tropes and HEAs and while we won’t be talking about all ten books, we’ll definitely be talking about a few of them, including <a href="https://amzn.to/3BKsTrG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Nanny With Benefits</em></a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/3JP0i70" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Reunion</em></a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/3h9CEGg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Daddy’s Best Friend</em></a> and Sarah’s favorite, <a href="https://amzn.to/3ot74Y7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Talk Dirty to Me</em></a>. The whole series is free in KU.</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><ul><li>Hey,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/07/well/covid-dating-advice.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">dating during the pandemic</a>&nbsp;was,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2021/07/20/dating-life-after-covid/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">and still is</a>, hard!&nbsp;</li><li>Sarah suggest that there are 3 questions an author must address&nbsp;<em>for each character</em>&nbsp;in order to make the fake dating plot work:&nbsp;</li><li>Why is this happening/why a fake relationship the only option?</li><li>Why this person and not some other person?</li><li>What happens if it all goes south?</li><li>In other words, what is the the stake, the thing the reader has to care about? In other words:&nbsp;<a href="https://kimberleywoodhouse.com/the-write-nook/lesson-17-introduction-to-gmc-goal-motivation-conflict/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">goal, motivation, conflict</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>One of our very earliest interstitials was on&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/20/escort-romances-interstitial-2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Escort romances</a>, and another was on&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/4/1/105-fake-engagement-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fake engagement/marriage of convenience</a>, tropes that has a lot in common with fake dating.</li><li><a href="https://frolic.media/romanceclass-an-introduction-with-its-filipino-authors/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#RomanceClass&nbsp;</a>is the name for a group of authors from the Phillipines writing in English. You can learn more about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.romanceclassbooks.com/about/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the romance class authors and their story</a>, which is strongly influenced by the fact that&nbsp;<a href="https://www.economist.com/asia/2020/02/13/why-the-philippines-is-the-only-country-where-divorce-is-illegal" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">divorce is illegal in the Phillipines</a>.</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/LQ-3rikUQ34" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fuck Me Gently with a Chainsaw</a>&nbsp;is something from a very dark 80s teen movie called&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thewrap.com/im-24-and-just-watched-heathers-for-the-first-time-yikes/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heathers</a>.</li><li>There is a Canadian equivalent to the Navy SEALs, it's called&nbsp;<a href="https://cubetoronto.com/canada/does-canada-have-the-equivalent-of-navy-seals/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joint Task Force 2</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/P0amUTAfWno" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Mounties</a>&nbsp;(which stands for Royal Canadian Mounted Police) definitely do not have that same vibe, but here is&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/eBjquNpNjlc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a nice video of a gentleman</a>&nbsp;talking about his the training of the RCMP dogs.</li></ul><br/><p><strong>Fake Dating Romance Novels</strong></p><ul><li>Hell Breaks Loose by Sophie Jordan</li><li>Hold by Claire Kent</li><li>Gigolo All the Way by JN Welsh</li><li>Fix Her Up by Tessa Bailey</li><li>Island Affair by Priscilla Oliveras</li><li>Totally Engaged by Mina Esguerra</li><li>Like Lovers do by Tracey Livesay</li><li>Luck of the Draw by Kate Clayborn</li><li>A Caribbean Heiress in Paris</li><li>Written in the Stars by Alexandria Bellefleur</li><li>Worked Up by Tessa Bailey</li><li>The Penalty Box by Odette Stone</li><li>Beauty and the Baller by Ilsa Madden-Mills</li><li>Fake Fiancee by Ilsa Madden Mills</li></ul><br/><p><strong>Sponsors</strong></p><p>This week’s episode of Fated Mates is sponsored by: </p><p>Better Help online therapy. </p><p>Fated Mates listeners get 10% off their first month at <a href="https://bit.ly/betterhelpfm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">betterhelp.com/fatedmates</a>.</p><p>and</p><p>Isla Moore, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3p3QCxG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Jennifer Files</em></a>, available free in KU.</p><p>Visit Isla at <a href="https://islamoore.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">islamoore.com</a>, or follow her on </p><p>Instagram at @islamoorebooks or Twitter at @islabooks.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can’t throw a stone in romance in 2022 without hitting a fake dating story, so we figure it’s time to do an interstitial on it! We’re talking about when it works, why it works, how it works, and by whom it works, so get your library cards ready because this one will topple your TBR! While this one is, as always, for the readers,  there’s lots of goal/motivation/conflict here for the writers, too.  Thanks for listening! </p><p>This episode is sponsored by Isla Moore, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3p3QCxG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Jennifer Files</em></a>, and <a href="https://bit.ly/betterhelpfm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">BetterHelp Online Therapy</a>.</p><p>Our next read along will feature some of Sarah’s favorite quick &amp; dirty books by London Hale, the pen name of authors Ellis Leigh and Brighton Walsh. Their <a href="https://amzn.to/3ryEuX2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Temperance Falls</a> series is full of kinks and tropes and HEAs and while we won’t be talking about all ten books, we’ll definitely be talking about a few of them, including <a href="https://amzn.to/3BKsTrG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Nanny With Benefits</em></a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/3JP0i70" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Reunion</em></a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/3h9CEGg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Daddy’s Best Friend</em></a> and Sarah’s favorite, <a href="https://amzn.to/3ot74Y7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Talk Dirty to Me</em></a>. The whole series is free in KU.</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><ul><li>Hey,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/07/well/covid-dating-advice.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">dating during the pandemic</a>&nbsp;was,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2021/07/20/dating-life-after-covid/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">and still is</a>, hard!&nbsp;</li><li>Sarah suggest that there are 3 questions an author must address&nbsp;<em>for each character</em>&nbsp;in order to make the fake dating plot work:&nbsp;</li><li>Why is this happening/why a fake relationship the only option?</li><li>Why this person and not some other person?</li><li>What happens if it all goes south?</li><li>In other words, what is the the stake, the thing the reader has to care about? In other words:&nbsp;<a href="https://kimberleywoodhouse.com/the-write-nook/lesson-17-introduction-to-gmc-goal-motivation-conflict/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">goal, motivation, conflict</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>One of our very earliest interstitials was on&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/20/escort-romances-interstitial-2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Escort romances</a>, and another was on&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/4/1/105-fake-engagement-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fake engagement/marriage of convenience</a>, tropes that has a lot in common with fake dating.</li><li><a href="https://frolic.media/romanceclass-an-introduction-with-its-filipino-authors/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#RomanceClass&nbsp;</a>is the name for a group of authors from the Phillipines writing in English. You can learn more about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.romanceclassbooks.com/about/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the romance class authors and their story</a>, which is strongly influenced by the fact that&nbsp;<a href="https://www.economist.com/asia/2020/02/13/why-the-philippines-is-the-only-country-where-divorce-is-illegal" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">divorce is illegal in the Phillipines</a>.</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/LQ-3rikUQ34" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fuck Me Gently with a Chainsaw</a>&nbsp;is something from a very dark 80s teen movie called&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thewrap.com/im-24-and-just-watched-heathers-for-the-first-time-yikes/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heathers</a>.</li><li>There is a Canadian equivalent to the Navy SEALs, it's called&nbsp;<a href="https://cubetoronto.com/canada/does-canada-have-the-equivalent-of-navy-seals/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joint Task Force 2</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/P0amUTAfWno" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Mounties</a>&nbsp;(which stands for Royal Canadian Mounted Police) definitely do not have that same vibe, but here is&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/eBjquNpNjlc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a nice video of a gentleman</a>&nbsp;talking about his the training of the RCMP dogs.</li></ul><br/><p><strong>Fake Dating Romance Novels</strong></p><ul><li>Hell Breaks Loose by Sophie Jordan</li><li>Hold by Claire Kent</li><li>Gigolo All the Way by JN Welsh</li><li>Fix Her Up by Tessa Bailey</li><li>Island Affair by Priscilla Oliveras</li><li>Totally Engaged by Mina Esguerra</li><li>Like Lovers do by Tracey Livesay</li><li>Luck of the Draw by Kate Clayborn</li><li>A Caribbean Heiress in Paris</li><li>Written in the Stars by Alexandria Bellefleur</li><li>Worked Up by Tessa Bailey</li><li>The Penalty Box by Odette Stone</li><li>Beauty and the Baller by Ilsa Madden-Mills</li><li>Fake Fiancee by Ilsa Madden Mills</li></ul><br/><p><strong>Sponsors</strong></p><p>This week’s episode of Fated Mates is sponsored by: </p><p>Better Help online therapy. </p><p>Fated Mates listeners get 10% off their first month at <a href="https://bit.ly/betterhelpfm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">betterhelp.com/fatedmates</a>.</p><p>and</p><p>Isla Moore, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3p3QCxG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Jennifer Files</em></a>, available free in KU.</p><p>Visit Isla at <a href="https://islamoore.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">islamoore.com</a>, or follow her on </p><p>Instagram at @islamoorebooks or Twitter at @islabooks.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/2/21/s0423-fake-dating-romances-interstitial]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:621392a7e72b6e4231b689f3</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2022 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/ed1772e3-5c34-4aa5-bd06-cdd7238357ef/fated-mates-fake-dating-final-revc.mp3" length="63836877" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:01:25</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>26</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>26</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>You can’t throw a stone in romance in 2022 without hitting a fake dating story, so we figure it’s time to do an interstitial on it! We’re talking about when it works, why it works, how it works, and by whom it works, so get your library cards ready because this one will topple your TBR! While this one is, as always, for the readers,  there’s lots of goal/motivation/conflict here for the writers, too.  Thanks for listening! 

This episode is sponsored by Isla Moore, author of The Jennifer Files, and BetterHelp Online Therapy.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-ed1772e3-5c34-4aa5-bd06-cdd7238357ef.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S04.22:  Sarah J. Maas on Sailor Moon, Writing Sex and Second Books</title><itunes:title>S04.22: Sarah J Maas on Sailor Moon, Sex and Second Books</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Oh boy have we got an episode for you! We’re thrilled to have Sarah J. Maas with us to celebrate the release of the second in her Crescent City series, House of Sky and Breath — in this episode, we talk about second books in series, why second books are often so unique and different from the other books in the series, and about how fandom informs Sarah’s work. And of course, because it’s Sarah, we talk about fantasy, about worldbuilding, about moving between YA and adult fantasy, and about writing romance (and sex)  on the page.  All this, and we talk about some favorite second books, too!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">This episode is sponsored by Sara Wetmore, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3BiG4zD"><em>Brush Strokes</em></a>, and Mila Fanelli, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3HYr8ZS"><em>Mafia Mistress</em></a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Next week, we’ve got an interstitial coming your way, but our next read along will feature some of Sarah (MacLean)’s favorite quick &amp; dirty books by London Hale, the pen name of authors Ellis Leigh and Brighton Walsh. Their <a href="https://amzn.to/3ryEuX2">Temperance Falls</a> series is full of kinks and tropes and HEAs and while we won’t be talking about all ten books, we’ll definitely be talking about a few of them. Specific titles to follow, but Sarah is for sure going to want you to read <a href="https://amzn.to/3ot74Y7"><em>Talk Dirty to Me</em></a>, which is older mayor of the town heroine, younger firefighter and also phone sex operator hero because…obviously. The whole series is free in KU.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">House of Earth and Blood by Sarah J. Maas</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">House of Sky and Breath by Sarah J. Maas</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Show Notes</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Sarah’s new book, <a href="https://amzn.to/3rRAvFn">House of Sky and Breath</a>, was released yesterday on February 15, 2022.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">In case you don’t know who <a href="https://www.metv.com/lists/the-12-coolest-craziest-contraptions-macgyver-ever-made">MacGyver</a> is, ope.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The Empire Strikes Back is the second in the original Star Wars trilogy, and a <a href="https://screenrant.com/sequel-trends-started-star-wars-empire-strikes-back/">perfect example of how the second installment can be influential.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">In Arrested Development, <a href="https://youtu.be/2-EouZi1mvQ">it was George Michael with the light saber in the garage.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Some of Sarah’s original fandoms: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Little_Pony">My Little Pony</a>, <a href="https://www.vox.com/22913160/sailor-moon-tuxedo-mask-romance-anime">Sailor Moon</a>, <a href="https://www.denofgeek.com/tv/why-buffys-second-season-is-the-best/">Buffy the Vampire Slayer</a>, <a href="https://the-take.com/read/why-is-empire-strikes-back-considered-the-best-of-the-original-trilogy#:~:text=It%20is%20a%20basic%20story%20of%20good%20versus%20evil.&amp;text=The%20Empire%20Strikes%20Back%20fixes,undeniable%20hero%20of%20the%20saga.">Star Wars</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings">The Lord of the Rings</a>, and <a href="https://www.smoothradio.com/news/entertainment/goonies-cast-where-now/">Goonies.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">These kids acted like real jerks on an airplane, and <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.com%2Fnews%2Fworld-us-canada-59917300&amp;sa=D&amp;source=docs&amp;usg=AOvVaw0LV_jkW10U1LS3V2JMll_B&amp;ust=1644978617061978">Please don’t do that.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Jen is writing Tommy and Imogen fanfic on twitter with the hashtag #TommyGoBoom.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Oh boy have we got an episode for you! We’re thrilled to have Sarah J. Maas with us to celebrate the release of the second in her Crescent City series, House of Sky and Breath — in this episode, we talk about second books in series, why second books are often so unique and different from the other books in the series, and about how fandom informs Sarah’s work. And of course, because it’s Sarah, we talk about fantasy, about worldbuilding, about moving between YA and adult fantasy, and about writing romance (and sex)  on the page.  All this, and we talk about some favorite second books, too!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">This episode is sponsored by Sara Wetmore, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3BiG4zD"><em>Brush Strokes</em></a>, and Mila Fanelli, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3HYr8ZS"><em>Mafia Mistress</em></a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Next week, we’ve got an interstitial coming your way, but our next read along will feature some of Sarah (MacLean)’s favorite quick &amp; dirty books by London Hale, the pen name of authors Ellis Leigh and Brighton Walsh. Their <a href="https://amzn.to/3ryEuX2">Temperance Falls</a> series is full of kinks and tropes and HEAs and while we won’t be talking about all ten books, we’ll definitely be talking about a few of them. Specific titles to follow, but Sarah is for sure going to want you to read <a href="https://amzn.to/3ot74Y7"><em>Talk Dirty to Me</em></a>, which is older mayor of the town heroine, younger firefighter and also phone sex operator hero because…obviously. The whole series is free in KU.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">House of Earth and Blood by Sarah J. Maas</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">House of Sky and Breath by Sarah J. Maas</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Show Notes</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Sarah’s new book, <a href="https://amzn.to/3rRAvFn">House of Sky and Breath</a>, was released yesterday on February 15, 2022.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">In case you don’t know who <a href="https://www.metv.com/lists/the-12-coolest-craziest-contraptions-macgyver-ever-made">MacGyver</a> is, ope.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The Empire Strikes Back is the second in the original Star Wars trilogy, and a <a href="https://screenrant.com/sequel-trends-started-star-wars-empire-strikes-back/">perfect example of how the second installment can be influential.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">In Arrested Development, <a href="https://youtu.be/2-EouZi1mvQ">it was George Michael with the light saber in the garage.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Some of Sarah’s original fandoms: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Little_Pony">My Little Pony</a>, <a href="https://www.vox.com/22913160/sailor-moon-tuxedo-mask-romance-anime">Sailor Moon</a>, <a href="https://www.denofgeek.com/tv/why-buffys-second-season-is-the-best/">Buffy the Vampire Slayer</a>, <a href="https://the-take.com/read/why-is-empire-strikes-back-considered-the-best-of-the-original-trilogy#:~:text=It%20is%20a%20basic%20story%20of%20good%20versus%20evil.&amp;text=The%20Empire%20Strikes%20Back%20fixes,undeniable%20hero%20of%20the%20saga.">Star Wars</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings">The Lord of the Rings</a>, and <a href="https://www.smoothradio.com/news/entertainment/goonies-cast-where-now/">Goonies.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">These kids acted like real jerks on an airplane, and <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.com%2Fnews%2Fworld-us-canada-59917300&amp;sa=D&amp;source=docs&amp;usg=AOvVaw0LV_jkW10U1LS3V2JMll_B&amp;ust=1644978617061978">Please don’t do that.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Jen is writing Tommy and Imogen fanfic on twitter with the hashtag #TommyGoBoom.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/2/13/s0422-sarah-j-maas]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:62095956770a4c3f1bdc76cd</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/2b35f3b1-0d8a-483d-b248-358aa716cf5c/fm-logo-1000.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2022 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/086ad46d-1528-4be5-94ff-9995242919b9/fated-mates-sarah-j-mass-final.mp3" length="82463835" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:19:46</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>25</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>25</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Oh boy have we got an episode for you! We’re thrilled to have Sarah J. Maas with us to celebrate the release of the second in her Crescent City series, House of Sky and Breath — in this episode, we talk about second books in series, why second books are often so unique and different from the other books in the series, and about how fandom informs Sarah’s work. And of course, because it’s Sarah, we talk about fantasy, about worldbuilding, about moving between YA and adult fantasy, and about writing romance (and sex)  on the page.  All this, and we talk about some favorite second books, too!

This episode is sponsored by Sara Wetmore, author of Brush Strokes, and Mila Fanelli, author of Mafia Mistress.</itunes:summary></item><item><title>S04.21: Sandra Kitt: Trailblazer</title><itunes:title>Sandra Kitt: Trailblazer</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Annnnd….we’re back! This week, we’ve got a new Trailblazer episode: Sandra Kitt—the first African American author at Harlequin (<em>Rites of Spring</em>, Harlequin American #43)—joins us to talk about the early days of writing category romance in the US, about writing for Vivian Stephens, about launching romance lines at Kensington and BET, and about her longstanding career. She also talks about writing the books that speak to you first and finding an audience for them later.  </p><p>This conversation is far reaching and could have gone for hours longer — our hope is that it is not the last time Sandra will join us at Fated Mates. We are so grateful to her for making time for us.  </p><p><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/tag/romance+trailblazers" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Find the full list of trailblazer episodes here</a>. For more conversations with Sandra Kitt, please listen to <a href="https://blackromancepodcast.libsyn.com/sandra-kitt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">her episode of the Black Romance Podcast</a>. </p><p>Join us LIVE tonight, Feburary 9th, for our special edition IAD celebration/Fated Mates funtime/<em>Munro</em>/Very likely Derek Craven too episode! Tickets are “pay what you wish” at <a href="http://live.fatedmates.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">live.fatedmates.net</a>, you’re welcome to join us for free, or make a donation to help offset the costs of transcribing this season’s Trailblazer episodes. </p><p>Our next read along will feature some of Sarah’s favorite quick &amp; dirty books by London Hale, the pen name of authors Ellis Leigh and Brighton Walsh. Their <a href="https://amzn.to/3ryEuX2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Temperance Falls</a> series is full of kinks and tropes and HEAs and while we won’t be talking about all ten books, we’ll definitely be talking about a few of them. Specific titles to follow, but Sarah is for sure going to want you to read <a href="https://amzn.to/3ot74Y7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Talk Dirty to Me</em></a>, which is older mayor of the town heroine, younger firefighter and also phone sex operator hero because…obviously.  The whole series is free in KU.</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p>People Sandra mentioned:&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/vivian-stephens-part-one/id1528266279?i=1000490448573" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vivian Stephens</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elsie_B._Washington" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Elsie Washington/Rosalind Welles</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgette_Heyer" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Georgette Heyer</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/Obituary/article/46362-walter-zacharius-dead-at-87.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Walter Zacharias</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://beverlyjenkins.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Beverly Jenkins</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/jenenderlin" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jennifer Enderlin</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/ct-ent-julie-moody-freeman-black-romance-as-scholarship-0304-20210318-34tlbjdg7nfsxi4nyfppl66xxy-story.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Julie Moody Freeman</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romantic_Times" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kathryn Falk</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_E._Woodiwiss" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kathleen Woodiwiss</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patricia_Veryan" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Patricia Veryan</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/18/books/janet-dailey-romance-author-dies-at-69.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Janet Dailey</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/1/2/s0418-jayne-ann-krentz-a-trailblazer-episode" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jayne Ann Krentz</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.anitabunkley.com/page/page/1042006.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Anita Richmond Bunkley</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.fantasticfiction.com/s/eboni-snoe/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Eboni Snoe</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://donnaohill.com/whats-new/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Donna Hill</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/author/gwynne-forster~2573.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gwynne Foster</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.lovemarcia.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Marcia King-Gamble</a>,<a href="https://www.brendajackson.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">&nbsp;Brenda Jackson</a>.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Annnnd….we’re back! This week, we’ve got a new Trailblazer episode: Sandra Kitt—the first African American author at Harlequin (<em>Rites of Spring</em>, Harlequin American #43)—joins us to talk about the early days of writing category romance in the US, about writing for Vivian Stephens, about launching romance lines at Kensington and BET, and about her longstanding career. She also talks about writing the books that speak to you first and finding an audience for them later.  </p><p>This conversation is far reaching and could have gone for hours longer — our hope is that it is not the last time Sandra will join us at Fated Mates. We are so grateful to her for making time for us.  </p><p><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/tag/romance+trailblazers" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Find the full list of trailblazer episodes here</a>. For more conversations with Sandra Kitt, please listen to <a href="https://blackromancepodcast.libsyn.com/sandra-kitt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">her episode of the Black Romance Podcast</a>. </p><p>Join us LIVE tonight, Feburary 9th, for our special edition IAD celebration/Fated Mates funtime/<em>Munro</em>/Very likely Derek Craven too episode! Tickets are “pay what you wish” at <a href="http://live.fatedmates.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">live.fatedmates.net</a>, you’re welcome to join us for free, or make a donation to help offset the costs of transcribing this season’s Trailblazer episodes. </p><p>Our next read along will feature some of Sarah’s favorite quick &amp; dirty books by London Hale, the pen name of authors Ellis Leigh and Brighton Walsh. Their <a href="https://amzn.to/3ryEuX2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Temperance Falls</a> series is full of kinks and tropes and HEAs and while we won’t be talking about all ten books, we’ll definitely be talking about a few of them. Specific titles to follow, but Sarah is for sure going to want you to read <a href="https://amzn.to/3ot74Y7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Talk Dirty to Me</em></a>, which is older mayor of the town heroine, younger firefighter and also phone sex operator hero because…obviously.  The whole series is free in KU.</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p>People Sandra mentioned:&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/vivian-stephens-part-one/id1528266279?i=1000490448573" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vivian Stephens</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elsie_B._Washington" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Elsie Washington/Rosalind Welles</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgette_Heyer" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Georgette Heyer</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/Obituary/article/46362-walter-zacharius-dead-at-87.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Walter Zacharias</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://beverlyjenkins.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Beverly Jenkins</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/jenenderlin" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jennifer Enderlin</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/ct-ent-julie-moody-freeman-black-romance-as-scholarship-0304-20210318-34tlbjdg7nfsxi4nyfppl66xxy-story.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Julie Moody Freeman</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romantic_Times" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kathryn Falk</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_E._Woodiwiss" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kathleen Woodiwiss</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patricia_Veryan" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Patricia Veryan</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/18/books/janet-dailey-romance-author-dies-at-69.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Janet Dailey</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/1/2/s0418-jayne-ann-krentz-a-trailblazer-episode" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jayne Ann Krentz</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.anitabunkley.com/page/page/1042006.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Anita Richmond Bunkley</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.fantasticfiction.com/s/eboni-snoe/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Eboni Snoe</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://donnaohill.com/whats-new/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Donna Hill</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/author/gwynne-forster~2573.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gwynne Foster</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.lovemarcia.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Marcia King-Gamble</a>,<a href="https://www.brendajackson.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">&nbsp;Brenda Jackson</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/2/6/s0421-sandra-kitt-a-trailblazer-episode]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:62003aa1114c56573a55943d</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/7961ff7c-33fe-4555-9248-8902302f3742/red-trailblazers.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2022 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/b0a814ed-ee67-4a37-9e31-77c6af479db0/fated-mates-trailblazers-sandra-kitt-final.mp3" length="90120584" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:30:44</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>24</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>24</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Annnnd….we’re back! This week, we’ve got a new Trailblazer episode: Sandra Kitt—the first African American author at Harlequin (Rites of Spring, Harlequin American #43)—joins us to talk about the early days of writing category romance in the US, about writing for Vivian Stephens, about launching romance lines at Kensington and BET, and about her longstanding career. She also talks about writing the books that speak to you first and finding an audience for them later.  

This conversation is far reaching and could have gone for hours longer — our hope is that it is not the last time Sandra will join us at Fated Mates. We are so grateful to Sandra Kitt for making time for Fated Mates.</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/2672fdd6-eed0-4718-8eef-490cc710200b/index.html" type="text/html"/><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-b0a814ed-ee67-4a37-9e31-77c6af479db0.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S04.20: &quot;Break In Case of Emergency&quot; Romance</title><itunes:title>&quot;Break In Case of Emergency&quot; Romance</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to romance reading sisters Cait &amp; Kara for their donation to the Romance for Haiti auction last year, and for this fabulous episode idea! We’re talking about the books we’re saving for the darkest of dark hours…the ones we know will be warm blankets of joy. What are the books we keep under glass, for serious break in case of emergency moments? We talk about them here. Also, Eric has informed us that this episode gave him big “up is down vibes” so here we go! </p><p>There are some big secrets here, too, so please share your own! Let us know which books you’re keeping in the vault by filling out the “What’s in the Vault” form <a href="https://fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">on the main page of the website</a>. </p><p>Our next read-along will be Kresley Cole’s <em>Munro</em>, Book 18 of the Immortals After Dark series. You’ve probably heard of this series because Fated Mates began as an IAD fan podcast. You can take the girls out of Monster Mash, but you can’t take Monster Mash out of the girls…so we’re reading Munro, obviously. Stay tuned for information on that episode…but also, if you’re inclined to go back to the beginning, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/11/1-were-gonna-come-back-to-biting-a-hunger-like-no-other" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here you go</a>. Preorder Munro at <a href="https://amzn.to/3n8tTzF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/munro/id1587692471?itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_box_link&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/munro-2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/munro-kresley-cole/1140201548" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>.</p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p><a href="https://romanceforhaitiauc.wixsite.com/website" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Romance for Haiti</a>&nbsp;auction was last fall. You can still support Haiti relief efforts via:</p><p><a href="https://ademen.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ayiti Ademen: Haiti Tomorrow</a>: providing disaster relief</p><p><a href="https://healthequityint.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">St. Boniface Hospital</a>: providing medical relief</p><p><a href="https://ayiticommunitytrust.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ayiti Community Trust</a>: providing social services/long term recovery</p><p>How much does it cost&nbsp;<a href="https://www.tsishipping.com/resources/cheapest-way-to-ship/books" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">to move your books</a>?</p><p>Our next read along is Kresley Cole's&nbsp;<em>Munro</em>. Stay tuned for more information!</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to romance reading sisters Cait &amp; Kara for their donation to the Romance for Haiti auction last year, and for this fabulous episode idea! We’re talking about the books we’re saving for the darkest of dark hours…the ones we know will be warm blankets of joy. What are the books we keep under glass, for serious break in case of emergency moments? We talk about them here. Also, Eric has informed us that this episode gave him big “up is down vibes” so here we go! </p><p>There are some big secrets here, too, so please share your own! Let us know which books you’re keeping in the vault by filling out the “What’s in the Vault” form <a href="https://fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">on the main page of the website</a>. </p><p>Our next read-along will be Kresley Cole’s <em>Munro</em>, Book 18 of the Immortals After Dark series. You’ve probably heard of this series because Fated Mates began as an IAD fan podcast. You can take the girls out of Monster Mash, but you can’t take Monster Mash out of the girls…so we’re reading Munro, obviously. Stay tuned for information on that episode…but also, if you’re inclined to go back to the beginning, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/11/1-were-gonna-come-back-to-biting-a-hunger-like-no-other" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here you go</a>. Preorder Munro at <a href="https://amzn.to/3n8tTzF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/munro/id1587692471?itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_box_link&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/munro-2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/munro-kresley-cole/1140201548" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>.</p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p><a href="https://romanceforhaitiauc.wixsite.com/website" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Romance for Haiti</a>&nbsp;auction was last fall. You can still support Haiti relief efforts via:</p><p><a href="https://ademen.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ayiti Ademen: Haiti Tomorrow</a>: providing disaster relief</p><p><a href="https://healthequityint.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">St. Boniface Hospital</a>: providing medical relief</p><p><a href="https://ayiticommunitytrust.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ayiti Community Trust</a>: providing social services/long term recovery</p><p>How much does it cost&nbsp;<a href="https://www.tsishipping.com/resources/cheapest-way-to-ship/books" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">to move your books</a>?</p><p>Our next read along is Kresley Cole's&nbsp;<em>Munro</em>. Stay tuned for more information!</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/1/17/s0420-the-break-in-case-of-emergency-romance-interstitial]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:61e5c445e9e2d81d12e80a19</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2022 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/176a9024-94f5-471e-8d7f-44161929e3a4/fatedmates-emergency-reads.mp3" length="61640991" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:00:14</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>20</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>20</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Thanks to romance reading sisters Cait &amp; Kara for their donation to the Romance for Haiti auction last year, and for this fabulous episode idea! We’re talking about the books we’re saving for the darkest of dark hours…the ones we know will be warm blankets of joy. What are the books we keep under glass, for serious break in case of emergency moments? We talk about them here. Also, Eric has informed us that this episode gave him big “up is down vibes” so here we go! 

There are some big secrets here, too, so please share your own! Let us know which books you’re keeping in the vault by filling out the “What’s in the Vault” form on the main page of the website.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-176a9024-94f5-471e-8d7f-44161929e3a4.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S04.19: Passion by Lisa Valdez: The Romance Equivalent of &quot;I Have an Extra Stomach for Dessert&quot;</title><itunes:title>Passion by Lisa Valdez: The Romance Equivalent of &quot;I Have an Extra Stomach for Dessert&quot;</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>&nbsp;On this episode, we’re talking about a historical that we like to think of as the full banana. A descriptor which, now that we’re typing it, really covers a lot of ground. It’s Passion week — we’re talking about how Lisa Valdez shook up the traditional historical world in 2005 when she released this erotic historical featuring a widow and a dude who has an extremely large…you know. We talk about what it means for a romance to be erotic and about how this might also be inspirational. We also talk about this as a marker of a significant shift in the content of romance novels, and ask some questions about basic anatomy. Headphones on for this one, y’all!</p><p>Our next read-along will be Kresley Cole’s <em>Munro</em>, Book 18 of the Immortals After Dark series. You’ve probably heard of this series because Fated Mates began as an IAD fan podcast. You can take the girls out of Monster Mash, but you can’t take Monster Mash out of the girls…so we’re reading Munro, obviously. Stay tuned for information on that episode…but also, if you’re inclined to go back to the beginning, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/11/1-were-gonna-come-back-to-biting-a-hunger-like-no-other" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here you go</a>. Preorder Munro at <a href="https://amzn.to/3n8tTzF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/munro/id1587692471?itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_box_link&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/munro-2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/munro-kresley-cole/1140201548" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>.</p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!&nbsp;</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li><em>Passion</em>&nbsp;by Lisa Valdez was the first book in a series named the Passion Quartet, but only two were published.&nbsp;<em>Passion</em>&nbsp;in 2005 and&nbsp;<em>Patience</em>&nbsp;in 2010.&nbsp;</li><li><em>Passion</em>&nbsp;takes place during Great Exhibition of the Works of Industry of All Nations, commonly called the Crystal Palace Exhibition. The Great Exhibition was well-documented in the book&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bl.uk/collection-items/dickinsons-comprehensive-pictures-of-the-great-exhibition-of-1851" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dickinson's Comprehensive Pictures of the Great Exhibition</a>, which is&nbsp;<a href="https://library.si.edu/digital-library/book/dickinsonscompr1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">available in its entirety online</a>. Charlotte Bronte was a visitor and&nbsp;<a href="http://www.mytimemachine.co.uk?p=74" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wrote about her impression of the exhibits</a>.</li><li>Lisa Valdez&nbsp;<a href="https://www.authorjessmichaels.com/lisa-valdez-erotic-historical-romance-monday/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wrote about sex in romance&nbsp;</a>on Jess Michaels's blog back in 2014.</li><li>America is full of weird controlling shit about sex,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.guttmacher.org/fact-sheet/abstinence-only-programs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">like abstinence only education,</a>&nbsp;and the fact that people don't know&nbsp;<a href="https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/teens/sex/virginity" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">where the hymen is</a>. You should follow&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/DrJenGunter" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dr. Jen Gunter</a>&nbsp;and tell your kids about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.scarleteen.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scarleteen</a>.</li><li>Sarah mentioned that Marc is a hero very much&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/11/25/s0212-lord-of-scoundrels" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">in the model of Dain from&nbsp;<em>Lord of Scoundrels</em>.</a></li><li>Up next,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3n8tTzF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Munro</em></a>. Stay tuned for more details.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/1/2/s0419-passion-by-lisa-valdez </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&nbsp;On this episode, we’re talking about a historical that we like to think of as the full banana. A descriptor which, now that we’re typing it, really covers a lot of ground. It’s Passion week — we’re talking about how Lisa Valdez shook up the traditional historical world in 2005 when she released this erotic historical featuring a widow and a dude who has an extremely large…you know. We talk about what it means for a romance to be erotic and about how this might also be inspirational. We also talk about this as a marker of a significant shift in the content of romance novels, and ask some questions about basic anatomy. Headphones on for this one, y’all!</p><p>Our next read-along will be Kresley Cole’s <em>Munro</em>, Book 18 of the Immortals After Dark series. You’ve probably heard of this series because Fated Mates began as an IAD fan podcast. You can take the girls out of Monster Mash, but you can’t take Monster Mash out of the girls…so we’re reading Munro, obviously. Stay tuned for information on that episode…but also, if you’re inclined to go back to the beginning, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/11/1-were-gonna-come-back-to-biting-a-hunger-like-no-other" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here you go</a>. Preorder Munro at <a href="https://amzn.to/3n8tTzF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/munro/id1587692471?itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_box_link&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/munro-2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/munro-kresley-cole/1140201548" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>.</p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!&nbsp;</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li><em>Passion</em>&nbsp;by Lisa Valdez was the first book in a series named the Passion Quartet, but only two were published.&nbsp;<em>Passion</em>&nbsp;in 2005 and&nbsp;<em>Patience</em>&nbsp;in 2010.&nbsp;</li><li><em>Passion</em>&nbsp;takes place during Great Exhibition of the Works of Industry of All Nations, commonly called the Crystal Palace Exhibition. The Great Exhibition was well-documented in the book&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bl.uk/collection-items/dickinsons-comprehensive-pictures-of-the-great-exhibition-of-1851" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dickinson's Comprehensive Pictures of the Great Exhibition</a>, which is&nbsp;<a href="https://library.si.edu/digital-library/book/dickinsonscompr1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">available in its entirety online</a>. Charlotte Bronte was a visitor and&nbsp;<a href="http://www.mytimemachine.co.uk?p=74" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wrote about her impression of the exhibits</a>.</li><li>Lisa Valdez&nbsp;<a href="https://www.authorjessmichaels.com/lisa-valdez-erotic-historical-romance-monday/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wrote about sex in romance&nbsp;</a>on Jess Michaels's blog back in 2014.</li><li>America is full of weird controlling shit about sex,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.guttmacher.org/fact-sheet/abstinence-only-programs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">like abstinence only education,</a>&nbsp;and the fact that people don't know&nbsp;<a href="https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/teens/sex/virginity" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">where the hymen is</a>. You should follow&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/DrJenGunter" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dr. Jen Gunter</a>&nbsp;and tell your kids about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.scarleteen.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scarleteen</a>.</li><li>Sarah mentioned that Marc is a hero very much&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/11/25/s0212-lord-of-scoundrels" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">in the model of Dain from&nbsp;<em>Lord of Scoundrels</em>.</a></li><li>Up next,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3n8tTzF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Munro</em></a>. Stay tuned for more details.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/1/2/s0419-passion-by-lisa-valdez </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/1/2/s0419-passion-by-lisa-valdez]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:61d1cbcd6111764009675795</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 12 Jan 2022 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/e06a7f77-6643-4524-a736-0325f67c9451/rated-mates-passion-final-revb.mp3" length="68791289" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:08:34</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>19</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>19</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>On this episode, we’re talking about a historical that we like to think of as the full banana. A descriptor which, now that we’re typing it, really covers a lot of ground. It’s Passion week — we’re talking about how Lisa Valdez shook up the traditional historical world in 2005 when she released this erotic historical featuring a widow and a dude who has an extremely large…you know. We talk about what it means for a romance to be erotic and about how this might also be inspirational. We also talk about this as a marker of a significant shift in the content of romance novels, and ask some questions about basic anatomy. Headphones on for this one, y’all!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-e06a7f77-6643-4524-a736-0325f67c9451.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S04.18: Jayne Ann Krentz: Trailblazer</title><itunes:title>S04.18: Jayne Ann Krentz: A Trailblazer Episode</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our Trailblazer episodes continue this week with Jayne Ann Krentz, who has done it all: writing for Vivian Stephens, writing historicals, writing contemporaries, writing space-set, fantasy, and paranormal romance, writing nonfiction about romance. In addition to managing life as JAK, Amanda Quick, Stephanie James and more, she’s also a legend of the genre because of her vocal resistance to the way society, literature and academia talks about romance novels. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">In this episode, we talk about her journey and the way she continually reinvented herself to keep writing, about the importance of writers’ core stories, about genre and myth making, and about the role of romance in the world. We could not be more grateful to Jayne Ann Krentz for making time for Fated Mates. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Next week, our first read-along of the year will be Lisa Valdez’s <em>Passion</em>, an erotic historical published in 2005 that is W-I-L-D. There is a lot of biblical stuff at the world’s fair. Also some truly bananas stuff that…sticks with you. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3dSC0eI">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/passion/id357990045">Apple</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/passion-7">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/passion-lisa-valdez/1100310543">B&amp;N</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thank you, as always, for listening! If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://jayneannkrentz.com/">Welcome Jayne Ann Krentz,</a>&nbsp;she has had lot of pen names, including Jayne Taylor, Jayne Bentley, Stephanie James and Amanda Glass. Now she publishes under 3 names: Jayne Ann Krenz (contemporary), Jayne Castle (speculative fiction romance), and Amanda Quick (historical). She has said, “I am often asked why I use a variety of pen names. The answer is that this way readers always know which of my three worlds they will be entering when they pick up one of my books.”</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/10/3/s0404-ravished-by-amanda-quick">We read Ravished for the podcast</a>&nbsp;in 2021, or three decades ago. You know how it goes in these pandemic times.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">People mentioned by Jayne: editor&nbsp;<a href="https://www.texasmonthly.com/arts-entertainment/vivian-stephens-helped-turn-romance-writing-into-billion-dollar-industry/">Vivian Stephens</a>, author&nbsp;<a href="https://barbaradelinsky.com/">Barbara Delinksy</a>, author&nbsp;<a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/author/amii-lorin~4660.htm">Amii Loren</a>, agent&nbsp;<a href="https://axelrodagency.com/">Steve Axelrod</a>&nbsp;publishing executive&nbsp;<a href="https://observer.com/2003/02/those-royal-applebaums/">Irwyn Applebaum</a>, author&nbsp;<a href="https://susanelizabethphillips.com/">Susan Elizabeth Phillips</a>, author&nbsp;<a href="https://kristinhannah.com/">Kristin Hannah</a>, author&nbsp;<a href="https://debbiemacomber.com/">Debbie Macomber</a>, author&nbsp;<a href="https://www.christinadodd.com/">Christina Dodd,</a>&nbsp;author&nbsp;<a href="https://rachel-grant.net/">Rachel Grant</a>, author&nbsp;<a href="https://darcyburke.com/">Darcy Burke</a>, editor Leslie Gelbman, editor Cindy Wong, editor Patricia Reynolds Smith.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our Trailblazer episodes continue this week with Jayne Ann Krentz, who has done it all: writing for Vivian Stephens, writing historicals, writing contemporaries, writing space-set, fantasy, and paranormal romance, writing nonfiction about romance. In addition to managing life as JAK, Amanda Quick, Stephanie James and more, she’s also a legend of the genre because of her vocal resistance to the way society, literature and academia talks about romance novels. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">In this episode, we talk about her journey and the way she continually reinvented herself to keep writing, about the importance of writers’ core stories, about genre and myth making, and about the role of romance in the world. We could not be more grateful to Jayne Ann Krentz for making time for Fated Mates. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Next week, our first read-along of the year will be Lisa Valdez’s <em>Passion</em>, an erotic historical published in 2005 that is W-I-L-D. There is a lot of biblical stuff at the world’s fair. Also some truly bananas stuff that…sticks with you. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3dSC0eI">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/passion/id357990045">Apple</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/passion-7">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/passion-lisa-valdez/1100310543">B&amp;N</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thank you, as always, for listening! If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://jayneannkrentz.com/">Welcome Jayne Ann Krentz,</a>&nbsp;she has had lot of pen names, including Jayne Taylor, Jayne Bentley, Stephanie James and Amanda Glass. Now she publishes under 3 names: Jayne Ann Krenz (contemporary), Jayne Castle (speculative fiction romance), and Amanda Quick (historical). She has said, “I am often asked why I use a variety of pen names. The answer is that this way readers always know which of my three worlds they will be entering when they pick up one of my books.”</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/10/3/s0404-ravished-by-amanda-quick">We read Ravished for the podcast</a>&nbsp;in 2021, or three decades ago. You know how it goes in these pandemic times.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">People mentioned by Jayne: editor&nbsp;<a href="https://www.texasmonthly.com/arts-entertainment/vivian-stephens-helped-turn-romance-writing-into-billion-dollar-industry/">Vivian Stephens</a>, author&nbsp;<a href="https://barbaradelinsky.com/">Barbara Delinksy</a>, author&nbsp;<a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/author/amii-lorin~4660.htm">Amii Loren</a>, agent&nbsp;<a href="https://axelrodagency.com/">Steve Axelrod</a>&nbsp;publishing executive&nbsp;<a href="https://observer.com/2003/02/those-royal-applebaums/">Irwyn Applebaum</a>, author&nbsp;<a href="https://susanelizabethphillips.com/">Susan Elizabeth Phillips</a>, author&nbsp;<a href="https://kristinhannah.com/">Kristin Hannah</a>, author&nbsp;<a href="https://debbiemacomber.com/">Debbie Macomber</a>, author&nbsp;<a href="https://www.christinadodd.com/">Christina Dodd,</a>&nbsp;author&nbsp;<a href="https://rachel-grant.net/">Rachel Grant</a>, author&nbsp;<a href="https://darcyburke.com/">Darcy Burke</a>, editor Leslie Gelbman, editor Cindy Wong, editor Patricia Reynolds Smith.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/1/2/s0418-jayne-ann-krentz-a-trailblazer-episode]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:61d1ceaee4273d7c874eb2c9</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/57d79d1f-cb7d-4044-9435-045ef7142148/red-trailblazers.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 05 Jan 2022 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/94293902-9c05-46e1-a1b8-48009c91a8fb/jayneannkrentz-final-reva.mp3" length="86538471" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:27:18</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>18</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>18</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Our Trailblazer episodes continue this week with Jayne Ann Krentz, who has done it all: writing for Vivian Stephens, writing historicals, writing contemporaries, writing space-set, fantasy, and paranormal romance, writing nonfiction about romance. In addition to managing life as JAK, Amanda Quick, Stephanie James and more, she’s also a legend of the genre because of her vocal resistance to the way society, literature and academia talks about romance novels. 

In this episode, we talk about her journey and the way she continually reinvented herself to keep writing, about the importance of writers’ core stories, about genre and myth making, and about the role of romance in the world. We could not be more grateful to Jayne Ann Krentz for making time for Fated Mates. </itunes:summary></item><item><title>S04.17: Roy Kent Redux, Happy New Year!</title><itunes:title>S04.17: Roy Kent Redux, Happy New Year!</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">It’s New Year’s Eve and that means it’s time for a special episode of Fated Mates! Also, Ted Lasso Season 2 is complete and that means it’s time for another Roy Kent episode, so we’re saying, “Why not both?” </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Both it is! Come for this two-hour deep dive on former AFC Richmond team captain and current AFC Richmond coach, Roy Kent and his bangin’ girl, Keeley Jones, Independent Woman…stay for the Bantr about Isaac, Rebecca, Ted and more. We’re talking about the whole season (except for that one episode we’re going to pretend doesn’t exist). Spoilers abound, so if you haven’t watched, do that first!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Happy happy new year, Magnificent Firebirds. You were the best thing about 2021 for us. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thank you, as always, for listening! If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We are starting as we mean to go on in 2022 — our first read-along of the year will be Lisa Valdez’s <em>Passion</em>, an erotic historical published in 2005 that is W-I-L-D. There is a lot of biblical stuff at the world’s fair. Also some truly bananas stuff that…sticks with you. We haven’t read it in a while, so we’re telling you to be careful because…honestly, it’s just good sense with this one. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3dSC0eI">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/passion/id357990045">Apple</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/passion-7">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/passion-lisa-valdez/1100310543">B&amp;N</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">In January of 2021,&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/1/4/s0321-sophia-benoit">sex columnist Sophia Benoit was our guest</a>, and we talked about Ted Lasso. In June of 2021,&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/7/18/s0348-is-roy-kent-a-romance-hero-the-ted-lasso-interstitial">we aired our first Roy Kent episode.&nbsp;</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2019/feb/17/dr-martens-fashion-reboot-sole-survivors">Doc Martens</a>&nbsp;have never been gone, but&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vogue.com/article/ode-to-dr-martens">they are definitely back</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheers">Cheers was one of the all great sitcoms</a>, which aired from 1982-1993.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Jen's Christmas gift from Mr. ReadsRomance was&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3pH26Yy">the BusyBox</a>; Sarah’s Christmas present from her in-laws came from&nbsp;<a href="https://www.yelp.com/biz/spare-time-paso-robles">Spare Time Used Books in Paso Robles, California</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://hearstcastle.org">Hearst Castle</a>&nbsp;is pretty wild, and not just because it has&nbsp;<a href="https://highway1discoveryroute.com/activities/hearst-castle-zebras/">literal wild zebras</a>&nbsp;roaming around on its grounds.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">You, too, can make a donation to&nbsp;<a href="https://www.flatbushcats.org">Flatbush Cats</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">To clarify, Jen watched The Bear Episode the first time around, but skipped in on this rewatch.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The “Roy is sorry for not understanding keely”&nbsp;<a href="https://music.apple.com/us/playlist/roy-is-sorry-for-not-understanding-keeley/pl.7d6793a1d83c4858a1942eeb02fc4055">playlist on apple music</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0gsRFhR8N3HA9TlARv47I1?si=4b501e2bd67e4096">also on Spotify</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Apple TV+ is available nearly everywhere people watch video. An Apple device is not required. You can&nbsp;<a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/ted-lasso/umc.cmc.vtoh0mn0xn7t3c643xqonfzy?ctx_brand=tvs.sbd.4000">binge both seasons with a seven day free trial</a>.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">It’s New Year’s Eve and that means it’s time for a special episode of Fated Mates! Also, Ted Lasso Season 2 is complete and that means it’s time for another Roy Kent episode, so we’re saying, “Why not both?” </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Both it is! Come for this two-hour deep dive on former AFC Richmond team captain and current AFC Richmond coach, Roy Kent and his bangin’ girl, Keeley Jones, Independent Woman…stay for the Bantr about Isaac, Rebecca, Ted and more. We’re talking about the whole season (except for that one episode we’re going to pretend doesn’t exist). Spoilers abound, so if you haven’t watched, do that first!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Happy happy new year, Magnificent Firebirds. You were the best thing about 2021 for us. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thank you, as always, for listening! If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We are starting as we mean to go on in 2022 — our first read-along of the year will be Lisa Valdez’s <em>Passion</em>, an erotic historical published in 2005 that is W-I-L-D. There is a lot of biblical stuff at the world’s fair. Also some truly bananas stuff that…sticks with you. We haven’t read it in a while, so we’re telling you to be careful because…honestly, it’s just good sense with this one. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3dSC0eI">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/passion/id357990045">Apple</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/passion-7">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/passion-lisa-valdez/1100310543">B&amp;N</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">In January of 2021,&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/1/4/s0321-sophia-benoit">sex columnist Sophia Benoit was our guest</a>, and we talked about Ted Lasso. In June of 2021,&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/7/18/s0348-is-roy-kent-a-romance-hero-the-ted-lasso-interstitial">we aired our first Roy Kent episode.&nbsp;</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2019/feb/17/dr-martens-fashion-reboot-sole-survivors">Doc Martens</a>&nbsp;have never been gone, but&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vogue.com/article/ode-to-dr-martens">they are definitely back</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheers">Cheers was one of the all great sitcoms</a>, which aired from 1982-1993.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Jen's Christmas gift from Mr. ReadsRomance was&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3pH26Yy">the BusyBox</a>; Sarah’s Christmas present from her in-laws came from&nbsp;<a href="https://www.yelp.com/biz/spare-time-paso-robles">Spare Time Used Books in Paso Robles, California</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://hearstcastle.org">Hearst Castle</a>&nbsp;is pretty wild, and not just because it has&nbsp;<a href="https://highway1discoveryroute.com/activities/hearst-castle-zebras/">literal wild zebras</a>&nbsp;roaming around on its grounds.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">You, too, can make a donation to&nbsp;<a href="https://www.flatbushcats.org">Flatbush Cats</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">To clarify, Jen watched The Bear Episode the first time around, but skipped in on this rewatch.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The “Roy is sorry for not understanding keely”&nbsp;<a href="https://music.apple.com/us/playlist/roy-is-sorry-for-not-understanding-keeley/pl.7d6793a1d83c4858a1942eeb02fc4055">playlist on apple music</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0gsRFhR8N3HA9TlARv47I1?si=4b501e2bd67e4096">also on Spotify</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Apple TV+ is available nearly everywhere people watch video. An Apple device is not required. You can&nbsp;<a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/ted-lasso/umc.cmc.vtoh0mn0xn7t3c643xqonfzy?ctx_brand=tvs.sbd.4000">binge both seasons with a seven day free trial</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/12/30/s0417-roy-kent-redux]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:61cda737c928c169031262a2</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/dc1fd5c7-7d51-4a50-bb9c-bf72df542119/roy-kent.jpeg"/><pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2022 00:33:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/4c8e75ba-05aa-4645-b563-dd2a46c4c804/s04-17-fated-mates-roy-kent-redux.mp3" length="114422376" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:53:08</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>17</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>17</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>It’s New Year’s Eve and that means it’s time for a special episode of Fated Mates! Also, Ted Lasso Season 2 is complete and that means it’s time for another Roy Kent episode, so we’re saying, “Why not both?” 

Both it is! Come for this two-hour deep dive on former AFC Richmond team captain and current AFC Richmond coach, Roy Kent and his bangin’ girl, Keeley Jones, Independent Woman…stay for the Bantr about Isaac, Rebecca, Ted and more. We’re talking about the whole season (except for that one episode we’re going to pretend doesn’t exist). Spoilers abound, so if you haven’t watched, do that first!

Happy happy new year, Magnificent Firebirds. You were the best thing about 2021 for us. </itunes:summary></item><item><title>04.16: (Short and) Sexy Christmas Recs</title><itunes:title>04.16: (Short and) Sexy Christmas Recs</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Holidays are about traditions and it's a Fated Mates tradition to rerun the previous year's holiday episode. So here we are! This year, we’ve added 30 minutes of chatter about two Christmas romances we loved in 2021. You can take Fated Mates to work, but you can’t take the very unsafe for work discussion out of Fated Mates, so headphones in! </p><p>Much love and many thanks for being with us!</p><p>Please enjoy this&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0ZVDMB2VCOo7DzrnYBuPEk?si=SPDXkoNlRr6agzNu4iiDsQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">short playlist</a>&nbsp;of holiday music featured on the podcast.</p><p><strong>For full show notes, see:&nbsp;</strong></p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0ZVDMB2VCOo7DzrnYBuPEk?si=BZRkdgz9SHum8n4hf3yUSg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">S02.16: Christmas Romance Novel Recommendations</a></p><p><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/35-holiday-romances-interstitial?rq=holiday" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">3.5: Holiday Romances: Interstitial</a></p><p>Roy and Keely's&nbsp;<a href="https://lassoism.com/Ted-Lasso-quote.php?id=359" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sexy Christmas</a>.</p><p>Check out&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/WhoresofYore/status/1472860979218239490?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Whores of Yore.&nbsp;</a></p><p><a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/seaman" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Seamen</a>&nbsp;sing&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vulture.com/2021/01/tiktok-sea-shanties-explained.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">shanties</a>. Sarah's talking about something else.</p><p>Jen did not make up this thing about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thefocus.news/culture/st-nicholas-day-shoe-tradition/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">St. Nicholas and shoes</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>The Black Forest in both&nbsp;<a href="https://www.britannica.com/place/Black-Forest-mountain-region-Germany" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a place in Germany</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://smittenkitchen.com/2018/10/sunken-black-forest-cake/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a delicious cake.&nbsp;</a></p><p><a href="https://blockclubchicago.org/2021/12/02/holiday-miracle-complete-after-babys-lost-christkindlmarket-ornaments-find-their-way-home-thanks-to-a-good-neighbor/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Best Friend Kelly saved this baby's christmas ornaments!</a></p><p><a href="https://song.link/i/1059135024" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">TYRANNOSAURUS REX FOR CHRISTMAS!</a></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holidays are about traditions and it's a Fated Mates tradition to rerun the previous year's holiday episode. So here we are! This year, we’ve added 30 minutes of chatter about two Christmas romances we loved in 2021. You can take Fated Mates to work, but you can’t take the very unsafe for work discussion out of Fated Mates, so headphones in! </p><p>Much love and many thanks for being with us!</p><p>Please enjoy this&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0ZVDMB2VCOo7DzrnYBuPEk?si=SPDXkoNlRr6agzNu4iiDsQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">short playlist</a>&nbsp;of holiday music featured on the podcast.</p><p><strong>For full show notes, see:&nbsp;</strong></p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0ZVDMB2VCOo7DzrnYBuPEk?si=BZRkdgz9SHum8n4hf3yUSg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">S02.16: Christmas Romance Novel Recommendations</a></p><p><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/35-holiday-romances-interstitial?rq=holiday" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">3.5: Holiday Romances: Interstitial</a></p><p>Roy and Keely's&nbsp;<a href="https://lassoism.com/Ted-Lasso-quote.php?id=359" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sexy Christmas</a>.</p><p>Check out&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/WhoresofYore/status/1472860979218239490?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Whores of Yore.&nbsp;</a></p><p><a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/seaman" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Seamen</a>&nbsp;sing&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vulture.com/2021/01/tiktok-sea-shanties-explained.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">shanties</a>. Sarah's talking about something else.</p><p>Jen did not make up this thing about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thefocus.news/culture/st-nicholas-day-shoe-tradition/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">St. Nicholas and shoes</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>The Black Forest in both&nbsp;<a href="https://www.britannica.com/place/Black-Forest-mountain-region-Germany" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a place in Germany</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://smittenkitchen.com/2018/10/sunken-black-forest-cake/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a delicious cake.&nbsp;</a></p><p><a href="https://blockclubchicago.org/2021/12/02/holiday-miracle-complete-after-babys-lost-christkindlmarket-ornaments-find-their-way-home-thanks-to-a-good-neighbor/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Best Friend Kelly saved this baby's christmas ornaments!</a></p><p><a href="https://song.link/i/1059135024" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">TYRANNOSAURUS REX FOR CHRISTMAS!</a></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/12/23/0416-short-and-sexy-christmas-recs]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:61c4a00c0c91ef4002fd6ad7</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Fri, 24 Dec 2021 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/71ad4675-07c3-4014-8226-1d3f2539ce67/fated-mates-04-16-short-and-sexy-xmas-recs.mp3" length="76549001" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:18:20</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>16</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>16</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Holidays are about traditions and it&apos;s a Fated Mates tradition to rerun the previous year&apos;s holiday episode. So here we are! This year, we’ve added 30 minutes of chatter about two Christmas romances we loved in 2021. You can take Fated Mates to work, but you can’t take the very unsafe for work discussion out of Fated Mates, so headphones in!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-71ad4675-07c3-4014-8226-1d3f2539ce67.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S04.15: Caressed by Ice by Nalini Singh</title><itunes:title>Caressed by Ice by Nalini Singh</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We’re back to paranormal romance this week — and so excited! It’s been literal years since we’ve done a deep dive like this one, talking about a beloved, long-standing, many booked, series — Nalini Singh’s Psy Changeling series. We’re deep diving on <em>Caressed by Ice</em>, which features a hero who literally experiences physical pain whenever he feels a feeling, so…of course he’s Jen’s favorite. We talk paranormal world building, patriarchy, hero’s feeling feelings, and try to explain the universe of this book. We’re not great at it, but there is about 20 minutes of bantr, so you’ll be fine!  </p><p>There’s still time to buy the Fated Mates Best of 2021 Book Pack from our friends at <a href="https://bit.ly/3bXV8XE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Old Town Books in Alexandria, VA</a>, and get eight of the books on the list, a Fated Mates sticker and other swag! </p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!&nbsp;</p><p>We are going to set some wild intentions for 2022 with our first read-along of the year, Lisa Valdez’s <em>Passion</em>, an erotic historical published in 2005 that is W-I-L-D. There is a lot of biblical stuff at the world’s fair. Also some truly bananas stuff that…sticks with you. We haven’t read it in a while, so we’re telling you to be careful because…honestly, it’s just good sense with this one. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3dSC0eI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/passion/id357990045" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/passion-7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/passion-lisa-valdez/1100310543" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>.</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Caressed by Ice is the third book in&nbsp;<a href="https://nalinisingh.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Psy/Changling series by Nalini Singh</a>. If you want more read-alongs and critiques, check out&nbsp;<a href="https://smexybooks.com/2021/01/the-psy-changeling-channel.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Melinda and Melanie’s write ups on the Psy/Changling channel at Smexy Books</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/nuHnpQIgjZE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Changeling Cast by Mara/BooksLikeWhoa on YouTube.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.gentlemenranters.com/johnnie-walker-platinum-vs-blue/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Johnnie Walker Blue is pretty fancy</a>, and definitely wants to be served over&nbsp;<a href="https://www.lg.com/us/support/video-tutorials/how-craft-ice-is-made-CT10000021-20151808423961" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">an ice ball.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.themarysue.com/stop-trying-to-make-jeremy-renner-happen/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jeremy Renner is a jerk</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>If there is a&nbsp;<a href="https://thegreatbritishbakeoff.co.uk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">GBBO (which stands for Great British Bake Off, so no need to google it</a>) and Ted Lasso crossover, they better bake biscuits with the boss.&nbsp;</li><li>Speaking of GBBO, one of the hosts dressed up as Santa and that's nice.</li><li>We talked about the paranormal explosion of 2006 when we recorded our first IAD episodes, so just&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/10/23/5-a-wolf-without-a-foot-intro" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">listen to season 1 again</a>&nbsp;because&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3pVx2TW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Munro&nbsp;</a>is coming. You might also want to listen to our&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/6/8/s0342-fantasy-romance-interstitial-with-zoraida-crdova" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fantasy romance episode with Zoriada Cordova.</a></li><li>More about the&nbsp;<a href="https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MonsterOfTheWeek" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">monster of the week</a>&nbsp;model.</li><li>If you're having sexytimes with a telekinetic, the promise of the premise is that they're gonna use those powers during sex!&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3GKKDnT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mad Rogan in the Hidden Legacy series knows his job.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.craftsy.com/post/types-of-serger-stitches/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Do you know how powerful serging is?</a>&nbsp;If not, check out this story from Talia Hibbert about the time she did some [VERY IMPORTANT romance research.][14]&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/PZxA3FVUwvk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shadow Dancing</a>&nbsp;is actually a song by&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Gibb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Andy Gibb</a>, younger brother of the other Bee Gees. You might want to watch&nbsp;<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/tv/bee-gees-documentary-hbo-review/2020/12/09/9065c6be-3819-11eb-9276-ae0ca72729be_story.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Bee Gees documentary</a>. You can watch&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beatles:_Get_Back" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">6 hours about the Beatles</a>, or&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/653206/see-paul-mccartney-write-get-back-beatles-documentary" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this three minute clip</a>. Your call! </li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/12/8/s0415-caressed-by-ice-by-nalini-singh </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We’re back to paranormal romance this week — and so excited! It’s been literal years since we’ve done a deep dive like this one, talking about a beloved, long-standing, many booked, series — Nalini Singh’s Psy Changeling series. We’re deep diving on <em>Caressed by Ice</em>, which features a hero who literally experiences physical pain whenever he feels a feeling, so…of course he’s Jen’s favorite. We talk paranormal world building, patriarchy, hero’s feeling feelings, and try to explain the universe of this book. We’re not great at it, but there is about 20 minutes of bantr, so you’ll be fine!  </p><p>There’s still time to buy the Fated Mates Best of 2021 Book Pack from our friends at <a href="https://bit.ly/3bXV8XE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Old Town Books in Alexandria, VA</a>, and get eight of the books on the list, a Fated Mates sticker and other swag! </p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!&nbsp;</p><p>We are going to set some wild intentions for 2022 with our first read-along of the year, Lisa Valdez’s <em>Passion</em>, an erotic historical published in 2005 that is W-I-L-D. There is a lot of biblical stuff at the world’s fair. Also some truly bananas stuff that…sticks with you. We haven’t read it in a while, so we’re telling you to be careful because…honestly, it’s just good sense with this one. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3dSC0eI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/passion/id357990045" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/passion-7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/passion-lisa-valdez/1100310543" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>.</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Caressed by Ice is the third book in&nbsp;<a href="https://nalinisingh.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Psy/Changling series by Nalini Singh</a>. If you want more read-alongs and critiques, check out&nbsp;<a href="https://smexybooks.com/2021/01/the-psy-changeling-channel.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Melinda and Melanie’s write ups on the Psy/Changling channel at Smexy Books</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/nuHnpQIgjZE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Changeling Cast by Mara/BooksLikeWhoa on YouTube.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.gentlemenranters.com/johnnie-walker-platinum-vs-blue/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Johnnie Walker Blue is pretty fancy</a>, and definitely wants to be served over&nbsp;<a href="https://www.lg.com/us/support/video-tutorials/how-craft-ice-is-made-CT10000021-20151808423961" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">an ice ball.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.themarysue.com/stop-trying-to-make-jeremy-renner-happen/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jeremy Renner is a jerk</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>If there is a&nbsp;<a href="https://thegreatbritishbakeoff.co.uk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">GBBO (which stands for Great British Bake Off, so no need to google it</a>) and Ted Lasso crossover, they better bake biscuits with the boss.&nbsp;</li><li>Speaking of GBBO, one of the hosts dressed up as Santa and that's nice.</li><li>We talked about the paranormal explosion of 2006 when we recorded our first IAD episodes, so just&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/10/23/5-a-wolf-without-a-foot-intro" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">listen to season 1 again</a>&nbsp;because&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3pVx2TW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Munro&nbsp;</a>is coming. You might also want to listen to our&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/6/8/s0342-fantasy-romance-interstitial-with-zoraida-crdova" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fantasy romance episode with Zoriada Cordova.</a></li><li>More about the&nbsp;<a href="https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MonsterOfTheWeek" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">monster of the week</a>&nbsp;model.</li><li>If you're having sexytimes with a telekinetic, the promise of the premise is that they're gonna use those powers during sex!&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3GKKDnT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mad Rogan in the Hidden Legacy series knows his job.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.craftsy.com/post/types-of-serger-stitches/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Do you know how powerful serging is?</a>&nbsp;If not, check out this story from Talia Hibbert about the time she did some [VERY IMPORTANT romance research.][14]&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/PZxA3FVUwvk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shadow Dancing</a>&nbsp;is actually a song by&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Gibb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Andy Gibb</a>, younger brother of the other Bee Gees. You might want to watch&nbsp;<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/tv/bee-gees-documentary-hbo-review/2020/12/09/9065c6be-3819-11eb-9276-ae0ca72729be_story.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Bee Gees documentary</a>. You can watch&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beatles:_Get_Back" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">6 hours about the Beatles</a>, or&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/653206/see-paul-mccartney-write-get-back-beatles-documentary" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this three minute clip</a>. Your call! </li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/12/8/s0415-caressed-by-ice-by-nalini-singh </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/12/8/s0415-caressed-by-ice-by-nalini-singh]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:61b153b526433c0d95deb72c</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2021 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/9f14010e-fe17-46ad-a16d-43b5a606301f/fated-mates-caressed-by-ice-final-revf.mp3" length="83673383" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:22:16</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>15</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>15</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We’re back to paranormal romance this week — and so excited! It’s been literal years since we’ve done a deep dive like this one, talking about a beloved, long-standing, many booked, series — Nalini Singh’s Psy Changeling series. We’re deep diving on Caressed by Ice, which features a hero who literally experiences physical pain whenever he feels a feeling, so…of course he’s Jen’s favorite. We talk paranormal world building, patriarchy, hero’s feeling feelings, and try to explain the universe of this book. We’re not great at it, but there is about 20 minutes of bantr, so you’ll be fine!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-9f14010e-fe17-46ad-a16d-43b5a606301f.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S04.14: Elda Minger: Trailblazer</title><itunes:title>S04.14: Elda Minger: A Trailblazer Episode</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The Trailblazer series continues this week with Elda Minger—author of contemporary and historical romances, including <em>Untamed Heart</em>, which is the first contemporary romance to feature condom use on the page. &nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Elda talks about writing for Vivian Stephens, about writing about women’s bodies, about reproductive choice and about the way romance made space for women during the 70s and 80s. She shares a collection of gorgeous stories about her life as a reader and writer (and a particularly wonderful detour as a bookseller). About the boom of category and contemporary romance in the 1980s, and about the way writing made her who she is.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We are thrilled to have found Elda, and that she took time to speak with us and share her wonderful perspective on the genre with us. We can’t think of a better week to share this episode with you. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">There’s still time to buy the Fated Mates Best of 2021 Book Pack from our friends at <a href="https://bit.ly/3bXV8XE">Old Town Books in Alexandria, VA</a>, and get eight of the books on the list, a Fated Mates sticker and other swag! Order the book box as soon as you can to avoid supply chain snafus. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thank you, as always, for listening! If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Next week, we’re reading Nalini Singh’s <em>Caressed by Ice</em>, number three (and Jen’s favorite) of the<em> Psy-Changeling</em> series. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3nLtO5x">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/caressed-by-ice/id361824371?itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_box_link&amp;ls=1">Apple</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/caressed-by-ice-1">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/caressed-by-ice-nalini-singh/1100253100">B&amp;N</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780425218426">at your local indie</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Welcome&nbsp;<a href="https://www.fantasticfiction.com/m/elda-minger/">Elda Minger</a>, author of over 30 romance novels, including&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3pFuCJb"><em>Untamed Heart</em>, Harlequin American Romance #12,</a>&nbsp;the&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/FatedMates/status/1131168353589051397?s=20">first contemporary romance with condoms</a>&nbsp;used on page.&nbsp;<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hn-kEpoSRCSUA0NIwLmY07uJyqRcG-G7/view?usp=sharing">In 1987, Elda wrote a column in RWR</a>&nbsp;(the Romance Writer’s Report, an RWA publication) defending the use of contraception in romance novels.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Elda was selling Kathleen Woodiwiss's&nbsp;<em>Shanna</em>&nbsp;at the Chicago bookstore chain&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kroch%27s_and_Brentano%27s">Kroch and Brentano’s.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Elda first Harlequin American Romances were edited by Vivian Stephens.&nbsp;<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VXl-yjmB4VdYv030Qk73Wr3-V_lWVTbO/view?usp=sharing">In this interview with Vivian Stephens from the Browne Pop Culture Library archives, she describes the founding of RWA and her move to Harlequin.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Names Elda mentioned: Harlequin editor&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/1981/02/22/books/paperback-talk.html">Evelyn Grippo</a>, Harlequin editorial director&nbsp;<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1981/07/05/the-ever-changing-faces-of-romance/ad2cc935-80ae-438a-b664-68188e3f096d/">Fred Kerner</a>, writing coach&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2360066.How_to_Write_Romance_Novels_That_Sell">Marilyn Lowery</a>, Mills &amp; Boon editor&nbsp;<a href="https://brill.com/view/book/edcoll/9789004283534/B9789004283534_004.xml">Frances Whitehead</a>, Mills and Boon editor&nbsp;<a href="https://wwwmcc.murdoch.edu.au/ReadingRoom/4.1/Darcy.html">Jacqui Bianchi,</a>Loveswept editor&nbsp;<a href="https://wonkomance.com/index.html%3Fp=712.html">Carolyn Nichols</a>, Harlequin editor&nbsp;<a href="https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1994-11-14-me-62541-story.html">Debra Matteucci</a>, Harlequin editor&nbsp;<a href="https://blog.harlequin.com/2010/11/harlequin-has-the-world-covered/">Birgit Davis-Todd</a>, Avon editor&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/1977/08/07/archives/paperback-talk-paperback-talk.html">Nancy Coffey</a>.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The Trailblazer series continues this week with Elda Minger—author of contemporary and historical romances, including <em>Untamed Heart</em>, which is the first contemporary romance to feature condom use on the page. &nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Elda talks about writing for Vivian Stephens, about writing about women’s bodies, about reproductive choice and about the way romance made space for women during the 70s and 80s. She shares a collection of gorgeous stories about her life as a reader and writer (and a particularly wonderful detour as a bookseller). About the boom of category and contemporary romance in the 1980s, and about the way writing made her who she is.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We are thrilled to have found Elda, and that she took time to speak with us and share her wonderful perspective on the genre with us. We can’t think of a better week to share this episode with you. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">There’s still time to buy the Fated Mates Best of 2021 Book Pack from our friends at <a href="https://bit.ly/3bXV8XE">Old Town Books in Alexandria, VA</a>, and get eight of the books on the list, a Fated Mates sticker and other swag! Order the book box as soon as you can to avoid supply chain snafus. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thank you, as always, for listening! If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Next week, we’re reading Nalini Singh’s <em>Caressed by Ice</em>, number three (and Jen’s favorite) of the<em> Psy-Changeling</em> series. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3nLtO5x">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/caressed-by-ice/id361824371?itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_box_link&amp;ls=1">Apple</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/caressed-by-ice-1">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/caressed-by-ice-nalini-singh/1100253100">B&amp;N</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780425218426">at your local indie</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Welcome&nbsp;<a href="https://www.fantasticfiction.com/m/elda-minger/">Elda Minger</a>, author of over 30 romance novels, including&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3pFuCJb"><em>Untamed Heart</em>, Harlequin American Romance #12,</a>&nbsp;the&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/FatedMates/status/1131168353589051397?s=20">first contemporary romance with condoms</a>&nbsp;used on page.&nbsp;<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hn-kEpoSRCSUA0NIwLmY07uJyqRcG-G7/view?usp=sharing">In 1987, Elda wrote a column in RWR</a>&nbsp;(the Romance Writer’s Report, an RWA publication) defending the use of contraception in romance novels.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Elda was selling Kathleen Woodiwiss's&nbsp;<em>Shanna</em>&nbsp;at the Chicago bookstore chain&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kroch%27s_and_Brentano%27s">Kroch and Brentano’s.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Elda first Harlequin American Romances were edited by Vivian Stephens.&nbsp;<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VXl-yjmB4VdYv030Qk73Wr3-V_lWVTbO/view?usp=sharing">In this interview with Vivian Stephens from the Browne Pop Culture Library archives, she describes the founding of RWA and her move to Harlequin.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Names Elda mentioned: Harlequin editor&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/1981/02/22/books/paperback-talk.html">Evelyn Grippo</a>, Harlequin editorial director&nbsp;<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1981/07/05/the-ever-changing-faces-of-romance/ad2cc935-80ae-438a-b664-68188e3f096d/">Fred Kerner</a>, writing coach&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2360066.How_to_Write_Romance_Novels_That_Sell">Marilyn Lowery</a>, Mills &amp; Boon editor&nbsp;<a href="https://brill.com/view/book/edcoll/9789004283534/B9789004283534_004.xml">Frances Whitehead</a>, Mills and Boon editor&nbsp;<a href="https://wwwmcc.murdoch.edu.au/ReadingRoom/4.1/Darcy.html">Jacqui Bianchi,</a>Loveswept editor&nbsp;<a href="https://wonkomance.com/index.html%3Fp=712.html">Carolyn Nichols</a>, Harlequin editor&nbsp;<a href="https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1994-11-14-me-62541-story.html">Debra Matteucci</a>, Harlequin editor&nbsp;<a href="https://blog.harlequin.com/2010/11/harlequin-has-the-world-covered/">Birgit Davis-Todd</a>, Avon editor&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/1977/08/07/archives/paperback-talk-paperback-talk.html">Nancy Coffey</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/12/6/s0414-elda-minger-a-trailblazer-episode]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:61aeab3a5ce7ca47e8f0fb02</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/4a738ed2-86dd-460c-a120-cf3cae71a840/red-trailblazers.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2021 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/770add0d-d34c-4b30-b14b-27e2a6488c4c/fated-mates-trailblazers-elda-minger.mp3" length="89172506" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:30:04</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>14</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>The Trailblazer series continues this week with Elda Minger—author of contemporary and historical romances, including Untamed Heart, which is the first contemporary romance to feature condom use on the page.  

Elda talks about writing for Vivian Stephens, about writing about women’s bodies, about reproductive choice and about the way romance made space for women during the 70s and 80s. She shares a collection of gorgeous stories about her life as a reader and writer (and a particularly wonderful detour as a bookseller). About the boom of category and contemporary romance in the 1980s, and about the way writing made her who she is. 

We are thrilled to have found Elda, and that she took time to speak with us and share her wonderful perspective on the genre with us. We can’t think of a better week to share this episode with you. </itunes:summary></item><item><title>S04.13: AMA with Questions from Piper Rayne</title><itunes:title>S04.13: AMA with Questions from Piper Rayne</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We’re joined this week by author Piper Rayne, who is two authors! Elizabeth Grace (Piper) and Michelle Lynn (Rayne) have written dozens of wildly tropey, wonderfully romantic contemporary romances together. They join us for a few minutes at the start of the episode to talk about how they came to romance and how they write together, and then leave us with a list of questions about publishing, books, and romance recommendations.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">There’s still time to buy the Fated Mates Best of 2021 Book Pack from our friends at <a href="https://bit.ly/3bXV8XE">Old Town Books in Alexandria, VA</a>, and get eight of the books on the list, a Fated Mates sticker and other swag! Order the book box as soon as you can to avoid supply chain snafus. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thank you, as always, for listening! If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our next read-along will be Nalini Singh’s <em>Caressed by Ice</em>, number three (and Jen’s favorite) of the<em> Psy-Changeling</em> series. Get them at <a href="https://amzn.to/3nLtO5x">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/caressed-by-ice/id361824371?itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_box_link&amp;ls=1">Apple</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/caressed-by-ice-1">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/caressed-by-ice-nalini-singh/1100253100">B&amp;N</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780425218426">at your local indie</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We are joined today by&nbsp;<a href="https://piperrayne.com">Piper Rayne</a>, an author duo who are about to publish their 50th book, My Unexpected Surprise on December 14, 2021. They won the right to decide the topic of an episode after winning an item in Kennedy Ryan's&nbsp;<a href="http://lift4autism.com">Lift4Autism</a>&nbsp;auction with&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kulturecity.org">Kulture City</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We mostly talked about and recommended books today, so check out the photo array for all the books we mentioned in today's episode.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We’re joined this week by author Piper Rayne, who is two authors! Elizabeth Grace (Piper) and Michelle Lynn (Rayne) have written dozens of wildly tropey, wonderfully romantic contemporary romances together. They join us for a few minutes at the start of the episode to talk about how they came to romance and how they write together, and then leave us with a list of questions about publishing, books, and romance recommendations.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">There’s still time to buy the Fated Mates Best of 2021 Book Pack from our friends at <a href="https://bit.ly/3bXV8XE">Old Town Books in Alexandria, VA</a>, and get eight of the books on the list, a Fated Mates sticker and other swag! Order the book box as soon as you can to avoid supply chain snafus. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thank you, as always, for listening! If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our next read-along will be Nalini Singh’s <em>Caressed by Ice</em>, number three (and Jen’s favorite) of the<em> Psy-Changeling</em> series. Get them at <a href="https://amzn.to/3nLtO5x">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/caressed-by-ice/id361824371?itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_box_link&amp;ls=1">Apple</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/caressed-by-ice-1">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/caressed-by-ice-nalini-singh/1100253100">B&amp;N</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780425218426">at your local indie</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We are joined today by&nbsp;<a href="https://piperrayne.com">Piper Rayne</a>, an author duo who are about to publish their 50th book, My Unexpected Surprise on December 14, 2021. They won the right to decide the topic of an episode after winning an item in Kennedy Ryan's&nbsp;<a href="http://lift4autism.com">Lift4Autism</a>&nbsp;auction with&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kulturecity.org">Kulture City</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We mostly talked about and recommended books today, so check out the photo array for all the books we mentioned in today's episode.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/11/26/s0413-ama-with-questions-from-piper-rayne]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:61a139340666223335e2d13b</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/f8859e31-568d-4da7-b6d2-b5828be44c02/purple-interstitial.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2021 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/6185ce41-d230-4254-9c55-d14b344dcf46/fated-mates-piperrayne-final-revd.mp3" length="63621936" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:04:14</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>13</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We’re joined this week by author Piper Rayne, who is two authors! Elizabeth Grace (Piper) and Michelle Lynn (Rayne) have written dozens of wildly tropey, wonderfully romantic contemporary romances together. They join us for a few minutes at the start of the episode to talk about how they came to romance and how they write together, and then leave us with a list of questions about publishing, books, and romance recommendations.</itunes:summary></item><item><title>S04.12: The Men at Work Trilogy by Tiffany Reisz: Thanksgiving is a lot</title><itunes:title>The Men at Work Trilogy by Tiffany Reisz</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It’s autumn which means it’s time to start talking holiday seasons and holiday romances here at Fated Mates, so this week, we’re talking about one of Jen’s favorite category trilogies—Tiffany Reisz’s Men At Work series from Harlequin Blaze. These are sexy, subversive romances that turn tropes on their head while delivering delight. </p><p>There’s still time to buy the Fated Mates Best of 2021 Book Pack from our friends at <a href="https://bit.ly/3bXV8XE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Old Town Books in Alexandria, VA</a>, and get eight of the books on the list, a Fated Mates sticker and other swag! Order the book box as soon as you can to avoid supply chain snafus. </p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!&nbsp;</p><p>Our next read-along will be Nalini Singh’s <em>Caressed by Ice</em>, number three (and Jen’s favorite) of the<em> Psy-Changeling</em> series. Get them at <a href="https://amzn.to/3nLtO5x" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/caressed-by-ice/id361824371?itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_box_link&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/caressed-by-ice-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/caressed-by-ice-nalini-singh/1100253100" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780425218426" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">at your local indie</a>.</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Tiffany Reisz is the author of the Original Sinners series and several category length romances. The Men at Work series was&nbsp;<a href="https://dearauthor.com/features/industry-news/update-closing-harlequin-blaze-harlequin-historical/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a Harlequin Blaze, a line that ran between 2001-2017.</a>&nbsp;The ghost story one is called The Headmaster, part of a tiny stand alone Harlequin eBook series called Shivers.</li><li>We’ve talked about the history of category romance on many episodes:&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/1/27/s0221-old-school-category-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">our favorite bonkers old categories from the 80s/90s</a>, with&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/7/6/s0245-vivian-stephens-acquisitions-with-librarian-steve-ammidown" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Steve Ammidown on the first acquisitions of Vivian Stephens</a>, and with&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/10/26/s0407-a-conversation-with-rare-book-dealer-rebecca-romney" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">rare book dealer Rebecca Romney</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Harlequin at the end of 2021 has&nbsp;<a href="https://www.harlequin.com/shop/pages/brand-landing.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">11 different lines</a>: Desire, Heartwarming, Historical, Intrigue, Medical Romance, Presents, Romance, Romantic Suspense, Special Edition, Love Inspired, and Love Inspired Suspense.&nbsp;</li><li>The Romance Wars section of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.typepunchmatrix.com/images/upload/the-romance-novel-in-english-online.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rebecca Romney’s romance catalog starts on page 125</a>, and it’s fascinating.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.britannica.com/topic/Amazoncom" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon began in 1994</a>, it had 180 thousand accounts in 1996 and a million accounts by the end of 1997.&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Reader" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Sony Reader</a>&nbsp;was on the market starting in 2004, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.pocket-lint.com/gadgets/news/amazon/137303-amazon-kindle-history-kindle-to-the-kindle-oasis?scrlybrkr=3f4e48d3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the first Kindle was in 2007. Kindle Unlimited started in 2014.</a></li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/yPEuQNp0nII" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Invention of Thanksgiving</a>&nbsp;is a video from T<a href="https://americanindian.si.edu/online-resources/thanksgiving" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">he Smithsonian National Museum of the American Indian</a>, it features an interview with Paul Chaat Smith, a member of the Comanche tribe. Debbie Reese has&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/debreese/status/1456619653682302977?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a great thread with resources for children’s books with Native American characters to read or avoid.</a></li><li>Sarah recommends&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vox.com/2016/4/9/11385002/happy-endings-hangout-sitcom" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the TV show Happy Endings</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/flashdance-1983" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Flashdance is has a music video vibe rather than a movie with a plot.</a></li><li>Compare and contrast&nbsp;<a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/title/sunny-chandlers-return~sandra-brown~6170.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">original Loveswept back cover copy</a>&nbsp;to&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3HPIjx4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the updated version</a>&nbsp;for Sunny Chandler’s Return by Sandra Brown.&nbsp;</li><li>Here is an explainer about how&nbsp;<a href="https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/ask-the-expert-matrilineal-descent/amp/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">there was a traditional belief that Judaism is matrilineal</a>, it is not a belief held by all Jewish people. This essay explains how&nbsp;<a href="https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/patrilineal-descent/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a 1983 decision from Reform rabbis made room for children of mixed marriages to claim patrilineal descent.&nbsp;</a></li><li>Order soon if you want to make sure your&nbsp;<a href="https://oldtownbooks.com/shop/fated-mates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates Book Pack</a>— 8 of our 10 Best Romance Novels of 2021— from Old Town Books in Alexandria, VA.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/11/19/s0412-the-men-at-work-trilogy-by-tiffany-reisz </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s autumn which means it’s time to start talking holiday seasons and holiday romances here at Fated Mates, so this week, we’re talking about one of Jen’s favorite category trilogies—Tiffany Reisz’s Men At Work series from Harlequin Blaze. These are sexy, subversive romances that turn tropes on their head while delivering delight. </p><p>There’s still time to buy the Fated Mates Best of 2021 Book Pack from our friends at <a href="https://bit.ly/3bXV8XE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Old Town Books in Alexandria, VA</a>, and get eight of the books on the list, a Fated Mates sticker and other swag! Order the book box as soon as you can to avoid supply chain snafus. </p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!&nbsp;</p><p>Our next read-along will be Nalini Singh’s <em>Caressed by Ice</em>, number three (and Jen’s favorite) of the<em> Psy-Changeling</em> series. Get them at <a href="https://amzn.to/3nLtO5x" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/caressed-by-ice/id361824371?itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_box_link&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/caressed-by-ice-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/caressed-by-ice-nalini-singh/1100253100" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780425218426" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">at your local indie</a>.</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Tiffany Reisz is the author of the Original Sinners series and several category length romances. The Men at Work series was&nbsp;<a href="https://dearauthor.com/features/industry-news/update-closing-harlequin-blaze-harlequin-historical/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a Harlequin Blaze, a line that ran between 2001-2017.</a>&nbsp;The ghost story one is called The Headmaster, part of a tiny stand alone Harlequin eBook series called Shivers.</li><li>We’ve talked about the history of category romance on many episodes:&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/1/27/s0221-old-school-category-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">our favorite bonkers old categories from the 80s/90s</a>, with&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/7/6/s0245-vivian-stephens-acquisitions-with-librarian-steve-ammidown" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Steve Ammidown on the first acquisitions of Vivian Stephens</a>, and with&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/10/26/s0407-a-conversation-with-rare-book-dealer-rebecca-romney" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">rare book dealer Rebecca Romney</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Harlequin at the end of 2021 has&nbsp;<a href="https://www.harlequin.com/shop/pages/brand-landing.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">11 different lines</a>: Desire, Heartwarming, Historical, Intrigue, Medical Romance, Presents, Romance, Romantic Suspense, Special Edition, Love Inspired, and Love Inspired Suspense.&nbsp;</li><li>The Romance Wars section of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.typepunchmatrix.com/images/upload/the-romance-novel-in-english-online.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rebecca Romney’s romance catalog starts on page 125</a>, and it’s fascinating.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.britannica.com/topic/Amazoncom" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon began in 1994</a>, it had 180 thousand accounts in 1996 and a million accounts by the end of 1997.&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Reader" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Sony Reader</a>&nbsp;was on the market starting in 2004, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.pocket-lint.com/gadgets/news/amazon/137303-amazon-kindle-history-kindle-to-the-kindle-oasis?scrlybrkr=3f4e48d3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the first Kindle was in 2007. Kindle Unlimited started in 2014.</a></li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/yPEuQNp0nII" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Invention of Thanksgiving</a>&nbsp;is a video from T<a href="https://americanindian.si.edu/online-resources/thanksgiving" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">he Smithsonian National Museum of the American Indian</a>, it features an interview with Paul Chaat Smith, a member of the Comanche tribe. Debbie Reese has&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/debreese/status/1456619653682302977?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a great thread with resources for children’s books with Native American characters to read or avoid.</a></li><li>Sarah recommends&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vox.com/2016/4/9/11385002/happy-endings-hangout-sitcom" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the TV show Happy Endings</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/flashdance-1983" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Flashdance is has a music video vibe rather than a movie with a plot.</a></li><li>Compare and contrast&nbsp;<a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/title/sunny-chandlers-return~sandra-brown~6170.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">original Loveswept back cover copy</a>&nbsp;to&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3HPIjx4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the updated version</a>&nbsp;for Sunny Chandler’s Return by Sandra Brown.&nbsp;</li><li>Here is an explainer about how&nbsp;<a href="https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/ask-the-expert-matrilineal-descent/amp/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">there was a traditional belief that Judaism is matrilineal</a>, it is not a belief held by all Jewish people. This essay explains how&nbsp;<a href="https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/patrilineal-descent/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a 1983 decision from Reform rabbis made room for children of mixed marriages to claim patrilineal descent.&nbsp;</a></li><li>Order soon if you want to make sure your&nbsp;<a href="https://oldtownbooks.com/shop/fated-mates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates Book Pack</a>— 8 of our 10 Best Romance Novels of 2021— from Old Town Books in Alexandria, VA.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/11/19/s0412-the-men-at-work-trilogy-by-tiffany-reisz </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/11/19/s0412-the-men-at-work-trilogy-by-tiffany-reisz]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:619854ddde70a3157aaf7097</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2021 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/1be88df1-4835-40cc-be91-a7f2e7a03c99/s04-12-fated-mates-tiffany-final.mp3" length="70328094" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:09:06</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>12</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>It’s autumn which means it’s time to start talking holiday seasons and holiday romances here at Fated Mates, so this week, we’re talking about one of Jen’s favorite category trilogies—Tiffany Reisz’s Men At Work series from Harlequin Blaze. These are sexy, subversive romances that turn tropes on their head while delivering delight.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-1be88df1-4835-40cc-be91-a7f2e7a03c99.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S04.11: Vincent Virga: Trailblazer</title><itunes:title>Vincent Virga: Trailblazer</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This week, we’re continuing our Trailblazer episodes with Vincent Virga—author of the Gaywyck trilogy, the first m/m gothic romance, and one of the first m/m romances ending with a happily ever after.&nbsp;</p><p>He talks about writing gay romance and about the way reading about love and happiness change readers lives. He also shares rich, wonderful stories about his vibrant life as a picture editor in publishing, about the literary set in New York City in the 70s and 80s, about writing during the AIDS epidemic in the 1980s, about the times in a writer’s life when the words don’t come easily, and about the times when they can’t be stopped.&nbsp;</p><p>We are honored and so grateful that Vincent took the time to speak with us, and we hope you enjoy this conversation as much as we did.&nbsp;</p><p>There’s still time to buy the Fated Mates Best of 2021 Book Pack from our friends at <a href="https://bit.ly/3bXV8XE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Old Town Books in Alexandria, VA</a>, and get eight of the books on the list, a Fated Mates sticker and other swag! Order the book box as soon as you can to avoid supply chain snafus. </p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!&nbsp;</p><p>Our next read-alongs will be the Tiffany Reisz <em>Men at Work</em> series, which is three holiday themed category romances. Read one or all of them: <a href="https://amzn.to/3BQVpGx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Her Halloween Treat</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/3q1TjRU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Her Naughty Holiday</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/3BJvr7r" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">One Hot December</a>.</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><ul><li>Welcome&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vincentvirga.com/index.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vincent Virga</a>, author of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.typepunchmatrix.com/images/upload/the-romance-novel-in-english-online.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gaywyck, the first gay gothic romance, and one of the earliest gay romances with a happily ever after.</a>&nbsp;It was published by Avon in 1980. He has written several other novels, including&nbsp;<em>Vadriel Vail</em>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<em>A Comfortable Corner</em>. He was also the premier picture editor in the book industry. He has been with his partner,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_McCourt_(writer)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">author James McCourt,</a>&nbsp;author of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nyrb.com/products/mawrdew-czgowchwz?variant=1094930185" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Mawrdew Czgowchwz</em></a>, for 56 years. Their collected papers are housed at the&nbsp;<a href="https://beinecke.library.yale.edu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Beinecke Library at Yale University</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Today is&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/16/nyregion/new-yorks-own-anti-gay-massacre-now-barely-remembered-orlando.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the 41st anniversary</a>&nbsp;of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.villagepreservation.org/2018/11/20/remembering-the-ramrod-massacre/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Ramrod Massacre</a>&nbsp;in New York City, where&nbsp;<a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2016%2F07%2F02%2Fnyregion%2Fa-proper-farewell-finally-for-a-victim-of-an-anti-gay-rampage-in-new-york.html%3Funlocked_article_code%3DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACEIPuonUktbcrYhkT1UbASbTTMIqoRyBg7_GhaQmgWfzNm2bQCxP0OkRB82O-kHEYa5yItU0xXGSAcFAO6MuQbl1wKpWOQlkTRWp55SNidEfKiAtoI2-G2IwmpTAQvUp9iXpKGmlLeM1jJuOgyW7ChniS_uUlH48Ol4l5Ms0KA23iyBbwaiURbVqjdd4iOMmUpsuWWxXNCeV7aS_DBV-atvVZhna-RB2D78CIUzbldCW4rkHdwlAWxmRHD4kvzFKuJ4LM8gXPa38MxYjZML05LwRAWViJ4-obIYjE8mWz_459O6Q9mHfjZa-1P40F61LvLjbs23cNV0nSbKePF-ZTSXJqCgz_B6DNa26CnazEqLF%26smid%3Durl-share&amp;sa=D&amp;source=docs&amp;usg=AOvVaw0xyorXIxPqMp3WgeFnwZBc&amp;ust=1637204905068000" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vernon Kroening</a>&nbsp;and Jorg Wenz were killed. Six other men were shot and injured inside the bar or on the streets near the Ramrod.&nbsp;</li><li>Author&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/PublishersWkly/status/1461139764942364683?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Malinda Lo</a>&nbsp;and Librarian&nbsp;<a href="https://19thnews.org/2021/11/school-librarians-resisting-censorship/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Angie Manfredi</a>&nbsp;sound&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/misskubelik/status/1455709020036157443?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the warning bell</a>&nbsp;about the fights that we are facing around access to books and libraries and calls for&nbsp;<a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2021%2F11%2F12%2Fopinion%2Fbook-bans.html%3Funlocked_article_code%3DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACEIPuonUktbfqohlSVUaASbSRdkhrxqAwvLIx795jHb4N26VVTNGhawzMrS3xn3sN-BldsdhmHOSXsNAO7siA6Min-MHZBUxDgOjqcbBxcVZc2A_oI64Gz5u08qUArxloWDnMSPxMupwxZyT7UPZYGjqXKPYwCdhcF4j-c05AAnsjX8Yxa7FEvp22s191JojBZN6QDQDZEqarqWiSkU-aJjdMEaqukRhUPpZWDrQgdac97sAFQxSAlnAR3t_in0uRYkL_fRAGEusXMw0K-2jvw%26smid%3Durl-share&amp;sa=D&amp;source=docs&amp;usg=AOvVaw2GcB2vBemM5TWbvJbULe4I&amp;ust=1637205860648000" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">book banning</a>&nbsp;happening all around the country.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/features/a38161583/how-to-fight-for-the-freedom-to-read/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Here is what you can do to help support your local library</a>. Check out&nbsp;<a href="https://runforsomething.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Runforsomething.net</a>&nbsp;for ideas about local races where you live.&nbsp;</li><li>Want more Vincent in your life? Here is a great interview from 2019 on a blog called&nbsp;<a href="http://lastbohemians.blogspot.com/2020/04/an-interview-with-novelist-and.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Last Bohemians</a>, and this&nbsp;<a href="https://elisa-rolle.livejournal.com/1447427.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2011 interview on Live Journal</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Daisy Buchanan cries that she's never seen such beautiful shirts in&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Gatsby" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Great Gatsby</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/IC7o7FbUipg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">We Get Letters</a>is a song from the Perry Como show.</li><li>People Vincent mentioned:&nbsp;<a href="http://www.susansontag.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Susan Sontag</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/06/arts/music/opera-classical-music-maria-callas.html?smid=url-share&amp;unlocked_article_code=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACEIPuonUktbfqohlSFUbBSbcR8Q86RibnvnEh7ski2X3aSORQC1Zzu8cB82F5lzMbu9mbsEy1nGQTdtFOaRpROB3yqUXGX1RfDSSg8nOnoUZcWJyoJivX2gy0tXDV-gzoDLgNyzoJL4hgeCz5hzDYTHuXLiL1X0gIwpv8cE2IAq6yDdfkPe-Z-1-3Nh03vslAokrBmtTIXnX4IS7Tkl2K96EbRnD6gEpW-8_WjvbntKU6rloYxwFQBudDys5uTBgnYsabNAHP6__Lwoje978gdgRCG9oKISrBf4hVhu-UxiL76EMPEREjs_T4Hw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Maria Callas</a>, opera singer&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_de_los_Ángeles" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Victoria de los Ángeles</a>, editor&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/01/obituaries/elaine-markson-literary-agent-for-feminist-authors-dies-at-87.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Elaine Markson</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.janefonda.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jane Fonda</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.armisteadmaupin.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Armistead Maupin</a>, poets&nbsp;<a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/john-ashbery" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">John Ashbery</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Merrill" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">James Merrill</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hillary and Bill Clinton</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/04/books/alice-mayhew-dead.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">editor Alice Mayhew</a>, Gwen Edelman at Avon Books,&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="https://www.townandcountrymag.com/leisure/arts-and-culture/a27008914/bob-fosse-gwen-verdon-relationship/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gwen Verdon and Bob Fosse</a>, publisher&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_B._Wyatt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bob Wyatt</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ehrlichman" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">John Ehrlichman</a>&nbsp;from Watergate, author&nbsp;<a href="http://www.colmtoibin.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Colm Tóibín</a>, poet&nbsp;<a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/mark-doty" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mark Doty</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.pbs.org/wnet/americanmasters/truman-capote-about-the-author/58/#" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Truman Capote</a>, poet and translator&nbsp;<a href="https://poets.org/poet/richard-howard" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Richard Howard</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/person/208074%7C139852/Shelley-Winters/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shelley Winters</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wayne" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">John Wayne</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauren_Bacall" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lauren Bacall</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Novak" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kim Novak</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>The museum Vincent was a part of in County Mayo, Ireland, is&nbsp;<a...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, we’re continuing our Trailblazer episodes with Vincent Virga—author of the Gaywyck trilogy, the first m/m gothic romance, and one of the first m/m romances ending with a happily ever after.&nbsp;</p><p>He talks about writing gay romance and about the way reading about love and happiness change readers lives. He also shares rich, wonderful stories about his vibrant life as a picture editor in publishing, about the literary set in New York City in the 70s and 80s, about writing during the AIDS epidemic in the 1980s, about the times in a writer’s life when the words don’t come easily, and about the times when they can’t be stopped.&nbsp;</p><p>We are honored and so grateful that Vincent took the time to speak with us, and we hope you enjoy this conversation as much as we did.&nbsp;</p><p>There’s still time to buy the Fated Mates Best of 2021 Book Pack from our friends at <a href="https://bit.ly/3bXV8XE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Old Town Books in Alexandria, VA</a>, and get eight of the books on the list, a Fated Mates sticker and other swag! Order the book box as soon as you can to avoid supply chain snafus. </p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!&nbsp;</p><p>Our next read-alongs will be the Tiffany Reisz <em>Men at Work</em> series, which is three holiday themed category romances. Read one or all of them: <a href="https://amzn.to/3BQVpGx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Her Halloween Treat</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/3q1TjRU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Her Naughty Holiday</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/3BJvr7r" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">One Hot December</a>.</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><ul><li>Welcome&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vincentvirga.com/index.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vincent Virga</a>, author of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.typepunchmatrix.com/images/upload/the-romance-novel-in-english-online.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gaywyck, the first gay gothic romance, and one of the earliest gay romances with a happily ever after.</a>&nbsp;It was published by Avon in 1980. He has written several other novels, including&nbsp;<em>Vadriel Vail</em>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<em>A Comfortable Corner</em>. He was also the premier picture editor in the book industry. He has been with his partner,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_McCourt_(writer)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">author James McCourt,</a>&nbsp;author of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nyrb.com/products/mawrdew-czgowchwz?variant=1094930185" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Mawrdew Czgowchwz</em></a>, for 56 years. Their collected papers are housed at the&nbsp;<a href="https://beinecke.library.yale.edu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Beinecke Library at Yale University</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Today is&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/16/nyregion/new-yorks-own-anti-gay-massacre-now-barely-remembered-orlando.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the 41st anniversary</a>&nbsp;of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.villagepreservation.org/2018/11/20/remembering-the-ramrod-massacre/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Ramrod Massacre</a>&nbsp;in New York City, where&nbsp;<a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2016%2F07%2F02%2Fnyregion%2Fa-proper-farewell-finally-for-a-victim-of-an-anti-gay-rampage-in-new-york.html%3Funlocked_article_code%3DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACEIPuonUktbcrYhkT1UbASbTTMIqoRyBg7_GhaQmgWfzNm2bQCxP0OkRB82O-kHEYa5yItU0xXGSAcFAO6MuQbl1wKpWOQlkTRWp55SNidEfKiAtoI2-G2IwmpTAQvUp9iXpKGmlLeM1jJuOgyW7ChniS_uUlH48Ol4l5Ms0KA23iyBbwaiURbVqjdd4iOMmUpsuWWxXNCeV7aS_DBV-atvVZhna-RB2D78CIUzbldCW4rkHdwlAWxmRHD4kvzFKuJ4LM8gXPa38MxYjZML05LwRAWViJ4-obIYjE8mWz_459O6Q9mHfjZa-1P40F61LvLjbs23cNV0nSbKePF-ZTSXJqCgz_B6DNa26CnazEqLF%26smid%3Durl-share&amp;sa=D&amp;source=docs&amp;usg=AOvVaw0xyorXIxPqMp3WgeFnwZBc&amp;ust=1637204905068000" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vernon Kroening</a>&nbsp;and Jorg Wenz were killed. Six other men were shot and injured inside the bar or on the streets near the Ramrod.&nbsp;</li><li>Author&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/PublishersWkly/status/1461139764942364683?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Malinda Lo</a>&nbsp;and Librarian&nbsp;<a href="https://19thnews.org/2021/11/school-librarians-resisting-censorship/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Angie Manfredi</a>&nbsp;sound&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/misskubelik/status/1455709020036157443?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the warning bell</a>&nbsp;about the fights that we are facing around access to books and libraries and calls for&nbsp;<a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2021%2F11%2F12%2Fopinion%2Fbook-bans.html%3Funlocked_article_code%3DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACEIPuonUktbfqohlSVUaASbSRdkhrxqAwvLIx795jHb4N26VVTNGhawzMrS3xn3sN-BldsdhmHOSXsNAO7siA6Min-MHZBUxDgOjqcbBxcVZc2A_oI64Gz5u08qUArxloWDnMSPxMupwxZyT7UPZYGjqXKPYwCdhcF4j-c05AAnsjX8Yxa7FEvp22s191JojBZN6QDQDZEqarqWiSkU-aJjdMEaqukRhUPpZWDrQgdac97sAFQxSAlnAR3t_in0uRYkL_fRAGEusXMw0K-2jvw%26smid%3Durl-share&amp;sa=D&amp;source=docs&amp;usg=AOvVaw2GcB2vBemM5TWbvJbULe4I&amp;ust=1637205860648000" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">book banning</a>&nbsp;happening all around the country.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/features/a38161583/how-to-fight-for-the-freedom-to-read/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Here is what you can do to help support your local library</a>. Check out&nbsp;<a href="https://runforsomething.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Runforsomething.net</a>&nbsp;for ideas about local races where you live.&nbsp;</li><li>Want more Vincent in your life? Here is a great interview from 2019 on a blog called&nbsp;<a href="http://lastbohemians.blogspot.com/2020/04/an-interview-with-novelist-and.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Last Bohemians</a>, and this&nbsp;<a href="https://elisa-rolle.livejournal.com/1447427.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2011 interview on Live Journal</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Daisy Buchanan cries that she's never seen such beautiful shirts in&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Gatsby" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Great Gatsby</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/IC7o7FbUipg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">We Get Letters</a>is a song from the Perry Como show.</li><li>People Vincent mentioned:&nbsp;<a href="http://www.susansontag.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Susan Sontag</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/06/arts/music/opera-classical-music-maria-callas.html?smid=url-share&amp;unlocked_article_code=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACEIPuonUktbfqohlSFUbBSbcR8Q86RibnvnEh7ski2X3aSORQC1Zzu8cB82F5lzMbu9mbsEy1nGQTdtFOaRpROB3yqUXGX1RfDSSg8nOnoUZcWJyoJivX2gy0tXDV-gzoDLgNyzoJL4hgeCz5hzDYTHuXLiL1X0gIwpv8cE2IAq6yDdfkPe-Z-1-3Nh03vslAokrBmtTIXnX4IS7Tkl2K96EbRnD6gEpW-8_WjvbntKU6rloYxwFQBudDys5uTBgnYsabNAHP6__Lwoje978gdgRCG9oKISrBf4hVhu-UxiL76EMPEREjs_T4Hw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Maria Callas</a>, opera singer&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_de_los_Ángeles" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Victoria de los Ángeles</a>, editor&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/01/obituaries/elaine-markson-literary-agent-for-feminist-authors-dies-at-87.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Elaine Markson</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.janefonda.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jane Fonda</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.armisteadmaupin.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Armistead Maupin</a>, poets&nbsp;<a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/john-ashbery" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">John Ashbery</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Merrill" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">James Merrill</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hillary and Bill Clinton</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/04/books/alice-mayhew-dead.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">editor Alice Mayhew</a>, Gwen Edelman at Avon Books,&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="https://www.townandcountrymag.com/leisure/arts-and-culture/a27008914/bob-fosse-gwen-verdon-relationship/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gwen Verdon and Bob Fosse</a>, publisher&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_B._Wyatt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bob Wyatt</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ehrlichman" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">John Ehrlichman</a>&nbsp;from Watergate, author&nbsp;<a href="http://www.colmtoibin.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Colm Tóibín</a>, poet&nbsp;<a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/mark-doty" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mark Doty</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.pbs.org/wnet/americanmasters/truman-capote-about-the-author/58/#" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Truman Capote</a>, poet and translator&nbsp;<a href="https://poets.org/poet/richard-howard" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Richard Howard</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/person/208074%7C139852/Shelley-Winters/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shelley Winters</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wayne" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">John Wayne</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauren_Bacall" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lauren Bacall</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Novak" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kim Novak</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>The museum Vincent was a part of in County Mayo, Ireland, is&nbsp;<a href="https://www.clarkecollection.ie" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Jackie Clarke Collection</a>.</li><li>The twisty turny secret book that made him a lover of Gothics was Wilkie Collins's&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Woman_in_White_(novel)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Woman in White</a>. Vincent is also a lover of Samuel Richardson's&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarissa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Clarissa</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Bellamann" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Henry Bellamann</a>'s King's Row.</li><li>A few short pieces abaout the AIDS epidemic:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.sfcenter.org/history/looking-back-the-aids-epidemic/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the impact</a>&nbsp;of the epidemic&nbsp;<a href="https://www.classicfm.com/discover-music/san-francisco-gay-mens-chorus-aids-epidemic/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">on survivors</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://wewereherefilm.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">in the queer community</a>, and how&nbsp;<a href="https://lithub.com/ronald-reagan-presided-over-89343-deaths-to-aids-and-did-nothing/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the American government ignored the crisis</a>.</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/11/13/s0411-vincent-virga-a-trailblazers-episode]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:618fd7eaf40e6c713dfbccaf</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/013657a6-d06e-48f9-ad4e-cf6de85c0cd0/red-trailblazers.jpg"/><pubDate>Fri, 19 Nov 2021 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/cfe49899-af27-49d9-b6c5-eebc4629a2ac/vincentvirga-final-revl-a.mp3" length="89417409" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:29:12</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>11</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>This week, we’re continuing our Trailblazer episodes with Vincent Virga—author of the Gaywyck trilogy, the first m/m gothic romance, and one of the first m/m romances ending with a happily ever after. 

He talks about writing gay romance and about the way reading about love and happiness change readers lives. He also shares rich, wonderful stories about his vibrant life as a picture editor in publishing, about the literary set in New York City in the 70s and 80s, about writing during the AIDS epidemic in the 1980s, about the times in a writer’s life when the words don’t come easily, and about the times when they can’t be stopped. 

We are honored and so grateful that Vincent took the time to speak with us, and we hope you enjoy this conversation as much as we did.</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/dcf5aaad-9d73-47d9-bceb-b2c728d38e76/index.html" type="text/html"/><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-cfe49899-af27-49d9-b6c5-eebc4629a2ac.json" type="application/json+chapters"/><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="video/youtube" title="S04.11: Vincent Virga: Trailblazer"><podcast:source uri="https://youtu.be/hC5nG6LeRGw"/></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>S04.10: Beverly Jenkins: Trailblazer</title><itunes:title>S04.10: Beverly Jenkins: a Trailblazer Episode</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">This week, we’re continuing our Trailblazer episodes with Beverly Jenkins—the first Black author of historical romance featuring Black main characters. We talk about her path to romance writing, about how librarians make the best writers, and about her role as the first Black historical romance novelist. We’re also talking about writing in multiple sub genres, about lifting up other authors, and about the importance of the clinch cover.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thank you to Beverly Jenkins for taking the time to talk to us, and share her story.  </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">There’s still time to buy the Fated Mates Best of 2021 Book Pack (which includes Beverly’s Wild Rain!) from our friends at <a href="https://bit.ly/3bXV8XE">Old Town Books in Alexandria, VA</a>, and get eight of the books on the list, a Fated Mates sticker and other swag! Order the book box as soon as you can to avoid supply chain snafus. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thank you, as always, for listening! If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our next read-alongs will be the Tiffany Reisz <em>Men at Work</em> series, which is three holiday themed category romances. Read one or all of them: <a href="https://amzn.to/3BQVpGx">Her Halloween Treat</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/3q1TjRU">Her Naughty Holiday</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/3BJvr7r">One Hot December</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Welcome&nbsp;<a href="https://beverlyjenkins.net">Beverly Jenkins</a>, the author of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/author/beverly-jenkins~3825.htm">more than 50 romance novels</a>, and the recipient of the 2017 Romance Writers of America Nora Roberts Lifetime Achievement Award, as well as the 2016 Romantic Times Reviewers’ Choice Award for historical romance.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">You can hear&nbsp;<a href="https://blackromancepodcast.libsyn.com/beverly-jenkins">Beverly’s interview on the Black Romance History podcast</a>, and last February,&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/QwIC0Hlmp-8">Jen interviewed her for Love’s Sweet Arrow when Wild Rain</a>&nbsp;was released. Wild Rain was also one of our&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/11/8/s0409-best-romance-novels-of-2021">best of 2021</a>&nbsp;romance novels.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Beverly Jenkins's first agent was Vivian Stephens. You can listen to Julie Moody-Freeman's interview with Vivian&nbsp;<a href="https://blackromancepodcast.libsyn.com/vivian-stephens-part-one">in two</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://blackromancepodcast.libsyn.com/vivian-stephens-part-two">parts on</a>&nbsp;the Black Romance Podcast.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Some of the people Beverly mentioned: sweet romance author&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3Dgt11L">Laverne St. George</a>, author&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3FcU5Qc">Patricia Vaughn</a>, author&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3opVlsx">Anita Richmond Bunkley</a>, publisher&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/08/business/media/08zacharius.html">Walter Zacharius</a>, editor&nbsp;<a href="https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xpm-1993-12-30-1993364058-story.html">Ellen Edwards</a>, editor&nbsp;<a href="https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xpm-1994-08-03-1994215011-story.html">Christine Zika</a>, cover designer Tom Egner, author&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3qB6wkI">Shirley Hailstock</a>, author&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/30pxLDW">Donna Hill</a>, author&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3wSLFKP">Brenda Jackson</a>, editor&nbsp;<a href="http://novelspaces.blogspot.com/2012/12/farewell-to-publishing-pioneer.html">Monica Harris</a>, author&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3Cihb5U">Gay Gunn</a>, marketing expert&nbsp;<a href="https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/international/trade-shows/article/9752-as-romance-booms-authors-and-publishers-invest-in-face-time.html">Adrienne di Pietro</a>, editor&nbsp;<a href="https://blog.freshfiction.com/the-editors-of-avon-books-exclusive-interview-how-to-write-a-romance/">Erika Tsang</a>, agent&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nyliterary.com">Nancy Yost</a>, Romantic Times owner&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romantic_Times">Kathryn Falk</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://aalbc.com/search.php?find=Gwendolyn%20Osborne">Gwen Osborne from The Romance Reader</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Here’s more information about<a href="https://www.angelakayaustin.com/2020/06/23/the-summer-of-black-love-beverly-jenkins/">&nbsp;1994, the summer of Black love</a>, and here’s a PDF of&nbsp;<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SIiFsmIUUBBU6G7THn-8-5D1L4tzlfAu/view?usp=sharing">Beverly Jenkins’s 1995 profile in People Magazine</a>.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">This week, we’re continuing our Trailblazer episodes with Beverly Jenkins—the first Black author of historical romance featuring Black main characters. We talk about her path to romance writing, about how librarians make the best writers, and about her role as the first Black historical romance novelist. We’re also talking about writing in multiple sub genres, about lifting up other authors, and about the importance of the clinch cover.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thank you to Beverly Jenkins for taking the time to talk to us, and share her story.  </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">There’s still time to buy the Fated Mates Best of 2021 Book Pack (which includes Beverly’s Wild Rain!) from our friends at <a href="https://bit.ly/3bXV8XE">Old Town Books in Alexandria, VA</a>, and get eight of the books on the list, a Fated Mates sticker and other swag! Order the book box as soon as you can to avoid supply chain snafus. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thank you, as always, for listening! If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our next read-alongs will be the Tiffany Reisz <em>Men at Work</em> series, which is three holiday themed category romances. Read one or all of them: <a href="https://amzn.to/3BQVpGx">Her Halloween Treat</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/3q1TjRU">Her Naughty Holiday</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/3BJvr7r">One Hot December</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Welcome&nbsp;<a href="https://beverlyjenkins.net">Beverly Jenkins</a>, the author of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/author/beverly-jenkins~3825.htm">more than 50 romance novels</a>, and the recipient of the 2017 Romance Writers of America Nora Roberts Lifetime Achievement Award, as well as the 2016 Romantic Times Reviewers’ Choice Award for historical romance.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">You can hear&nbsp;<a href="https://blackromancepodcast.libsyn.com/beverly-jenkins">Beverly’s interview on the Black Romance History podcast</a>, and last February,&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/QwIC0Hlmp-8">Jen interviewed her for Love’s Sweet Arrow when Wild Rain</a>&nbsp;was released. Wild Rain was also one of our&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/11/8/s0409-best-romance-novels-of-2021">best of 2021</a>&nbsp;romance novels.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Beverly Jenkins's first agent was Vivian Stephens. You can listen to Julie Moody-Freeman's interview with Vivian&nbsp;<a href="https://blackromancepodcast.libsyn.com/vivian-stephens-part-one">in two</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://blackromancepodcast.libsyn.com/vivian-stephens-part-two">parts on</a>&nbsp;the Black Romance Podcast.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Some of the people Beverly mentioned: sweet romance author&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3Dgt11L">Laverne St. George</a>, author&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3FcU5Qc">Patricia Vaughn</a>, author&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3opVlsx">Anita Richmond Bunkley</a>, publisher&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/08/business/media/08zacharius.html">Walter Zacharius</a>, editor&nbsp;<a href="https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xpm-1993-12-30-1993364058-story.html">Ellen Edwards</a>, editor&nbsp;<a href="https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xpm-1994-08-03-1994215011-story.html">Christine Zika</a>, cover designer Tom Egner, author&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3qB6wkI">Shirley Hailstock</a>, author&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/30pxLDW">Donna Hill</a>, author&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3wSLFKP">Brenda Jackson</a>, editor&nbsp;<a href="http://novelspaces.blogspot.com/2012/12/farewell-to-publishing-pioneer.html">Monica Harris</a>, author&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3Cihb5U">Gay Gunn</a>, marketing expert&nbsp;<a href="https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/international/trade-shows/article/9752-as-romance-booms-authors-and-publishers-invest-in-face-time.html">Adrienne di Pietro</a>, editor&nbsp;<a href="https://blog.freshfiction.com/the-editors-of-avon-books-exclusive-interview-how-to-write-a-romance/">Erika Tsang</a>, agent&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nyliterary.com">Nancy Yost</a>, Romantic Times owner&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romantic_Times">Kathryn Falk</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://aalbc.com/search.php?find=Gwendolyn%20Osborne">Gwen Osborne from The Romance Reader</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Here’s more information about<a href="https://www.angelakayaustin.com/2020/06/23/the-summer-of-black-love-beverly-jenkins/">&nbsp;1994, the summer of Black love</a>, and here’s a PDF of&nbsp;<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SIiFsmIUUBBU6G7THn-8-5D1L4tzlfAu/view?usp=sharing">Beverly Jenkins’s 1995 profile in People Magazine</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/11/13/s0410-beverly-jenkins-a-trailblazer-episode]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:618fd7a0aff35733eb8d73c0</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/44a66532-1b09-41a1-a3a1-a7d37c479456/red-trailblazers.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 17 Nov 2021 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/d10e2234-c929-4ec3-8c3f-d354844c1aa0/fated-mates-beverly-jenkinds-trailblazer-final.mp3" length="68362977" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:08:32</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>10</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>This week, we’re continuing our Trailblazer episodes with Beverly Jenkins—the first Black author of historical romance featuring Black main characters. We talk about her path to romance writing, about how librarians make the best writers, and about her role as the first Black historical romance novelist. We’re also talking about writing in multiple sub genres, about lifting up other authors, and about the importance of the clinch cover.</itunes:summary></item><item><title>S04.09: Best Romance Novels of 2021</title><itunes:title>S04.09: Best Romance Novels of 2021</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">It’s time for our favorite episode of the year — the one when we topple TBR piles! It’s our Best Books of 2021 episode — ten  books that got us through this wild, not always great year—books with fabulous heroines, heroes who aren’t sure about feelings, delicious sexy bits, and stories that swing for the fences. You will not be disappointed. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Buy the Fated Mates Best of Book Pack in one fell swoop from our friends at <a href="https://bit.ly/3bXV8XE">Old Town Books in Alexandria, VA</a>, and get eight of the books on the list, a Fated Mates sticker and other swag! Order the book box as soon as you can to avoid the snafus arising all over from supply chain issues. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thank you, as always, for listening! If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our next read-alongs will be the Tiffany Reisz <em>Men at Work</em> series, which is three holiday themed category romances. Read one or all of them: <a href="https://amzn.to/3BQVpGx">Her Halloween Treat</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/3q1TjRU">Her Naughty Holiday</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/3BJvr7r">One Hot December</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Best Romance Novels of 2021</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Hana Khan Carries On</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Careless Whispers by Synithia Williams</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Scoundrel of My Heart by Lorraine Heath</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Run Posy Run by Cate C. Wells</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">For the Love of April French by Penny Aimes</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">All the Best Nights by Hanna Earnest</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">It Happened One Summer by Tessa Bailey</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Wild Rain by Beverly Jenkins</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">After the Billionaire's Wedding Vows... by Lucy Monroe</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The Wisteria Society of Lady Scoundrels by India Holton</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">You can order the Fated Mates Best of 2021 box from Old Town Books in Alexandria.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/22/business/shortages-supply-chain.html">supply chain is a mess</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.popsci.com/technology/book-supply-chain-crisis/">especially for books.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Why does it always seem like&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bustle.com/p/why-are-beauty-products-discontinued-industry-insiders-reveal-how-to-get-your-favourites-back-in-production-18693241">cosmetics companies are discontinuing</a>&nbsp;your favorite products?&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://youtu.be/VxcU4q6KLyA">“Big mistake, huge,”</a>&nbsp;is a quote from Pretty Woman, of course.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/20-signs-that-you-are-a-psychopath-2013-9">Dario is a psychopath</a>, but Jen wasn’t about to let that stop her.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.vulture.com/2020/04/schitts-creek-netflix-pop-success-story.html">Everyone loves Schitt’s Creek</a>, but you don’t need to know about&nbsp;<a href="https://screenrant.com/schitts-creek-alexis-rose-hidden-details-secrets-everyone-missed/">Alexis Rose</a>&nbsp;to enjoy It Happened One Summer.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">A Star is a Born has&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vox.com/first-person/2019/2/19/18225472/a-star-is-born-oscars-lady-gaga-bradley-cooper">a truly terrible ending</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://screenrant.com/star-born-movie-ending-bad-meaning/">no matter which version</a>&nbsp;of the movie you watched.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://twitter.com/ActuallyAviva">Author Aviva Blakeman</a>&nbsp;wrote some really&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/ActuallyAviva/status/1421093105424637956?s=20">thought-provoking</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/ActuallyAviva/status/1421851831253323781?s=20">threads about</a>&nbsp;groveling and&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/ActuallyAviva/status/1420072310707531781?s=20">the grand gesture</a>. Jen still loves the grovel, but Aviva's threads are a great reminder of how many ways there are to write a romance.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/45032/fog-56d2245d7b36c">A Carl Sandburg poem</a>&nbsp;about the fog. You know how Jen is.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">It’s time for our favorite episode of the year — the one when we topple TBR piles! It’s our Best Books of 2021 episode — ten  books that got us through this wild, not always great year—books with fabulous heroines, heroes who aren’t sure about feelings, delicious sexy bits, and stories that swing for the fences. You will not be disappointed. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Buy the Fated Mates Best of Book Pack in one fell swoop from our friends at <a href="https://bit.ly/3bXV8XE">Old Town Books in Alexandria, VA</a>, and get eight of the books on the list, a Fated Mates sticker and other swag! Order the book box as soon as you can to avoid the snafus arising all over from supply chain issues. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thank you, as always, for listening! If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our next read-alongs will be the Tiffany Reisz <em>Men at Work</em> series, which is three holiday themed category romances. Read one or all of them: <a href="https://amzn.to/3BQVpGx">Her Halloween Treat</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/3q1TjRU">Her Naughty Holiday</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/3BJvr7r">One Hot December</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Best Romance Novels of 2021</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Hana Khan Carries On</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Careless Whispers by Synithia Williams</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Scoundrel of My Heart by Lorraine Heath</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Run Posy Run by Cate C. Wells</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">For the Love of April French by Penny Aimes</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">All the Best Nights by Hanna Earnest</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">It Happened One Summer by Tessa Bailey</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Wild Rain by Beverly Jenkins</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">After the Billionaire's Wedding Vows... by Lucy Monroe</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The Wisteria Society of Lady Scoundrels by India Holton</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">You can order the Fated Mates Best of 2021 box from Old Town Books in Alexandria.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/22/business/shortages-supply-chain.html">supply chain is a mess</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.popsci.com/technology/book-supply-chain-crisis/">especially for books.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Why does it always seem like&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bustle.com/p/why-are-beauty-products-discontinued-industry-insiders-reveal-how-to-get-your-favourites-back-in-production-18693241">cosmetics companies are discontinuing</a>&nbsp;your favorite products?&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://youtu.be/VxcU4q6KLyA">“Big mistake, huge,”</a>&nbsp;is a quote from Pretty Woman, of course.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/20-signs-that-you-are-a-psychopath-2013-9">Dario is a psychopath</a>, but Jen wasn’t about to let that stop her.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.vulture.com/2020/04/schitts-creek-netflix-pop-success-story.html">Everyone loves Schitt’s Creek</a>, but you don’t need to know about&nbsp;<a href="https://screenrant.com/schitts-creek-alexis-rose-hidden-details-secrets-everyone-missed/">Alexis Rose</a>&nbsp;to enjoy It Happened One Summer.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">A Star is a Born has&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vox.com/first-person/2019/2/19/18225472/a-star-is-born-oscars-lady-gaga-bradley-cooper">a truly terrible ending</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://screenrant.com/star-born-movie-ending-bad-meaning/">no matter which version</a>&nbsp;of the movie you watched.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://twitter.com/ActuallyAviva">Author Aviva Blakeman</a>&nbsp;wrote some really&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/ActuallyAviva/status/1421093105424637956?s=20">thought-provoking</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/ActuallyAviva/status/1421851831253323781?s=20">threads about</a>&nbsp;groveling and&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/ActuallyAviva/status/1420072310707531781?s=20">the grand gesture</a>. Jen still loves the grovel, but Aviva's threads are a great reminder of how many ways there are to write a romance.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/45032/fog-56d2245d7b36c">A Carl Sandburg poem</a>&nbsp;about the fog. You know how Jen is.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/11/8/s0409-best-romance-novels-of-2021]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:618948118e07d170133403a6</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/311df73e-90da-41ce-91bb-c8ac14209999/fm-bestof2021-lg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2021 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/313f23b8-7ed4-450b-b3fb-b9ef2ede9cbf/fated-mates-best-of-2021.mp3" length="71714560" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:08:56</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>9</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>It’s time for our favorite episode of the year — the one when we topple TBR piles! It’s our Best Books of 2021 episode — ten  books that got us through this wild, not always great year—books with fabulous heroines, heroes who aren’t sure about feelings, delicious sexy bits, and stories that swing for the fences. You will not be disappointed. </itunes:summary></item><item><title>S04.08: Hana Khan Carries On by Uzma Jalaluddin</title><itunes:title>Hana Khan Carries On by Uzma Jalaluddin</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>2021 has been kind of a mess, honestly, and Sarah hasn’t been reading as much as usual, because *waves hands at the world.* But Hana Khan Carries On is a total delight and exactly the book she needed this year, so we’re reading it with you! We’ll talk about romcoms, authorial voice, podcasting heroines, about how much we enjoy heroes who deserve a bit of cold storage, about writing contemporaries that reflect the time we live in, and about first person narration and why it works really well when it works really well. </p><p>Also, Sarah tries to get herself invited to hang out with Uzma Jalaluddin and tries to trademark a Ted Lasso reference all in one episode. It’s rough out here. Leave her alone.</p><p>Get ready for more trailblazers and our Best of 2021 episode this month! Our next read-alongs will be the Tiffany Reisz <em>Men at Work</em> series, which is three holiday themed category romances. Read one or all of them: <a href="https://amzn.to/3BQVpGx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Her Halloween Treat</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/3q1TjRU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Her Naughty Holiday</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/3BJvr7r" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">One Hot December</a>.</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>This week’s book is Hana Khan Carries On by&nbsp;<a href="https://uzmajalaluddin.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Uzma Jalaluddin</a>. Her first novel was&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3GKX1F7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ayesha At Last</a>, which was a Pride &amp; Prejudice retelling.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cbc.ca/books/uzma-jalaluddin-s-hana-khan-carries-on-to-be-adapted-into-film-by-mindy-kaling-and-amazon-studios-1.6139039" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mindy Kaling is adapting Hana Khan for Amazon</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://www.foliosociety.com/usa/venetia.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Folio Society has a new version of Georgette Heyer’s Venetia</a>. The introduction is by&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Fry?scrlybrkr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stephen Fry</a>, who is&nbsp;<a href="https://poetryarchive.org/collections/tour-archive-stephen-fry/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a real champion of poetry</a>, including a great book about the joys of reading and writing poetry called&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3GKwmbO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Ode Less Travelled.</a></li><li>The dating app invented for Ted Lasso is called&nbsp;<a href="https://ted-lasso.fandom.com/wiki/Bantr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bantr</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>If you can’t identify different voices, maybe it’s because we all have&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/02/25/arts/podcast-voice-sound.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">podcast voice</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>In the ReadsRomance family,&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1065028871303675904?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">we call Toronto Clean Chicago</a>….because well, I think it explains itself.&nbsp;</li><li>The Golden Crescent might be an invented neighborhood for this book, but it seems similar to Toronto’s&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crescent_Town?scrlybrkr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Crescent Town</a>. If you’d like more information about what it means when food or a restaurant is&nbsp;<a href="https://www.icv.org.au/about/about-islam-overview/what-is-halal-a-guide-for-non-muslims/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Halal</a>. Perhaps you do not know about&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biryani?scrlybrkr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">biryani</a>, an Indian delicacy, or&nbsp;<a href="https://www.farmersalmanac.com/heck-poutine-20317" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">poutine</a>, a Canadian one.</li><li>Jen was right about the meaning of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pillory" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the word pillory</a>.</li><li>This book has aspects of the 1998 movie&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3k11wlb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">You’ve Got Mail</a>&nbsp;with Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan, which had&nbsp;<a href="https://www.offthebeatenshelf.com/blog/youve-got-mail" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a terrible ending</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>From what we can tell, the NPR of Canada is&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cbc.ca/radio" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CBC radio.</a></li><li>In some recent books, we get an unflinching portrayals of toxic white women on page---characters like Marissa in this book,&nbsp;<a href="http://www.loveinpanels.com/prose/american-dreamer" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">or Misty in American Dreamer</a>. Adriana Herrera was a guest on last year for&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/10/25/s0312-the-immigrant-story-in-romance-with-adriana-herrera" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">an interstitial about the immigrant experience</a>.</li><li>Our next read-alongs will be the Tiffany Reisz Men at Work series, which is three books. Read one or read them all:&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3BQVpGx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Her Halloween Treat</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3q1TjRU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Her Naughty Holiday</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3BJvr7r" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">One Hot December</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/11/1/s0408-hana-khan-carries-on-by-uzma-jalaluddin </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2021 has been kind of a mess, honestly, and Sarah hasn’t been reading as much as usual, because *waves hands at the world.* But Hana Khan Carries On is a total delight and exactly the book she needed this year, so we’re reading it with you! We’ll talk about romcoms, authorial voice, podcasting heroines, about how much we enjoy heroes who deserve a bit of cold storage, about writing contemporaries that reflect the time we live in, and about first person narration and why it works really well when it works really well. </p><p>Also, Sarah tries to get herself invited to hang out with Uzma Jalaluddin and tries to trademark a Ted Lasso reference all in one episode. It’s rough out here. Leave her alone.</p><p>Get ready for more trailblazers and our Best of 2021 episode this month! Our next read-alongs will be the Tiffany Reisz <em>Men at Work</em> series, which is three holiday themed category romances. Read one or all of them: <a href="https://amzn.to/3BQVpGx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Her Halloween Treat</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/3q1TjRU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Her Naughty Holiday</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/3BJvr7r" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">One Hot December</a>.</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>This week’s book is Hana Khan Carries On by&nbsp;<a href="https://uzmajalaluddin.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Uzma Jalaluddin</a>. Her first novel was&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3GKX1F7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ayesha At Last</a>, which was a Pride &amp; Prejudice retelling.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cbc.ca/books/uzma-jalaluddin-s-hana-khan-carries-on-to-be-adapted-into-film-by-mindy-kaling-and-amazon-studios-1.6139039" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mindy Kaling is adapting Hana Khan for Amazon</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://www.foliosociety.com/usa/venetia.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Folio Society has a new version of Georgette Heyer’s Venetia</a>. The introduction is by&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Fry?scrlybrkr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stephen Fry</a>, who is&nbsp;<a href="https://poetryarchive.org/collections/tour-archive-stephen-fry/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a real champion of poetry</a>, including a great book about the joys of reading and writing poetry called&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3GKwmbO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Ode Less Travelled.</a></li><li>The dating app invented for Ted Lasso is called&nbsp;<a href="https://ted-lasso.fandom.com/wiki/Bantr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bantr</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>If you can’t identify different voices, maybe it’s because we all have&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/02/25/arts/podcast-voice-sound.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">podcast voice</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>In the ReadsRomance family,&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1065028871303675904?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">we call Toronto Clean Chicago</a>….because well, I think it explains itself.&nbsp;</li><li>The Golden Crescent might be an invented neighborhood for this book, but it seems similar to Toronto’s&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crescent_Town?scrlybrkr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Crescent Town</a>. If you’d like more information about what it means when food or a restaurant is&nbsp;<a href="https://www.icv.org.au/about/about-islam-overview/what-is-halal-a-guide-for-non-muslims/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Halal</a>. Perhaps you do not know about&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biryani?scrlybrkr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">biryani</a>, an Indian delicacy, or&nbsp;<a href="https://www.farmersalmanac.com/heck-poutine-20317" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">poutine</a>, a Canadian one.</li><li>Jen was right about the meaning of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pillory" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the word pillory</a>.</li><li>This book has aspects of the 1998 movie&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3k11wlb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">You’ve Got Mail</a>&nbsp;with Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan, which had&nbsp;<a href="https://www.offthebeatenshelf.com/blog/youve-got-mail" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a terrible ending</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>From what we can tell, the NPR of Canada is&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cbc.ca/radio" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CBC radio.</a></li><li>In some recent books, we get an unflinching portrayals of toxic white women on page---characters like Marissa in this book,&nbsp;<a href="http://www.loveinpanels.com/prose/american-dreamer" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">or Misty in American Dreamer</a>. Adriana Herrera was a guest on last year for&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/10/25/s0312-the-immigrant-story-in-romance-with-adriana-herrera" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">an interstitial about the immigrant experience</a>.</li><li>Our next read-alongs will be the Tiffany Reisz Men at Work series, which is three books. Read one or read them all:&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3BQVpGx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Her Halloween Treat</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3q1TjRU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Her Naughty Holiday</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3BJvr7r" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">One Hot December</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/11/1/s0408-hana-khan-carries-on-by-uzma-jalaluddin </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/11/1/s0408-hana-khan-carries-on-by-uzma-jalaluddin]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:6180651899d7a41b86b41bf9</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2021 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/57280784-5bbb-47f1-965d-aeca86e9af77/hana-kahn-final-fated-mates-revb.mp3" length="62854163" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:00:28</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>8</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>2021 has been kind of a mess, honestly, and Sarah hasn’t been reading as much as usual, because *waves hands at the world.* But Hana Khan Carries On is a total delight and exactly the book she needed this year, so we’re reading it with you! We’ll talk about romcoms, authorial voice, podcasting heroines, about how much we enjoy heroes who deserve a bit of cold storage, about writing contemporaries that reflect the time we live in, and about first person narration and why it works really well when it works really well. 

Also, Sarah tries to get herself invited to hang out with Uzma Jalaluddin and tries to trademark a Ted Lasso reference all in one episode. It’s rough out here. Leave her alone.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-57280784-5bbb-47f1-965d-aeca86e9af77.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S04.07: A Conversation with Rare Book Dealer Rebecca Romney</title><itunes:title>A Conversation with Rare Book Dealer Rebecca Romney</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This week, we’re thrilled to have Rebecca Romney with us! Rebecca is a rare books dealer and the woman behind The Romance Novel in English, a 100-lot collection of rare romance novels and other romance-adjacent paraphernalia. We had a great time talking to her about the collection, her motivation to develop it, her hopes for its future at the Lilly Library at the University of Indiana, and about how romance lovers can start thinking about collecting books! We hope you love this one as much as we did!</p><p>Our next read along is Uzma Jalaluddin’s <em>Hana Khan Carries On</em>. Find it at:&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3mqWsam" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/hana-khan-carries-on-uzma-jalaluddin/1137108798?ean=9780593336373" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/hana-khan-carries-on/id1532649125" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/hana-khan-carries-on-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780593336366" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">at your local indie</a>. </p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><ul><li>Welcome&nbsp;<a href="https://www.rebeccaromney.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rebecca Romney</a>. She is the cofounder of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.typepunchmatrix.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Type Punch Matrix</a>, a rare books firm based in Washington DC. She started out working at&nbsp;<a href="https://www.baumanrarebooks.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bauman Rare Books in Las Vegas.</a>&nbsp;You can also watch her in action from old appearances on Pawn Stars where&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/0RA_B5p2JYg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">she routinely broke people’s hearts about the values of their rare books.</a></li><li>Rebecca recently put together a collection that was purchased by the&nbsp;<a href="https://libraries.indiana.edu/lilly-library" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lilly Library at the University of Indiana</a>&nbsp;called&nbsp;<a href="https://www.typepunchmatrix.com/images/upload/the-romance-novel-in-english-online.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Romance Novel in English: A Survey in English 1769-1999.</a>&nbsp;You can follow Lilly Librarian&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/arkhamlibrarian" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rebecca</a>&nbsp;on twitter; they sound like a great resource for romance, and for planning a visit!&nbsp;</li><li>On the episode, we extensively discuss some of the general themes and specific items in the catalogue. Two authors that didn’t make it into the catalogue because Rebecca couldn’t find copies:&nbsp;<a href="https://virginia-anthology.org/eliza-haywood/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Eliza Haywood</a>and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/6053/6053-h/6053-h.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Evelina by Frances Burney.</a></li><li>The Elizabeth Lowell book&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3CksLhJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">about a gold dealer in Las Vegas is called Running Scared</a>&nbsp;and is part of the Rarities Unlimited series.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.abebooks.com/collections/sc/silver-gold/1FV4Adw2HiXzWbi3779CSV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gold books aren't really a thing</a>, but&nbsp;<a href="http://web.ceu.hu/medstud/manual/MMM/gilding.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">gold leaf and illumiated manuscripts are</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Here’s an explainer on&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bl.uk/collection-items/gutenberg-bible" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Gutenberg Bible</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/67n3PH9wawE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a clip from Pawn Stars where an individual leaf is available</a>, and here is a page from&nbsp;<a href="https://www.finebooksmagazine.com/news/gutenberg-bible-leaf-be-auctioned" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a 2021 auction site selling a leaf</a>. But remember that&nbsp;<a href="https://www.printmuseum.org/blog/2021-aapi-historymonth-pt1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bookmaking in China</a>&nbsp;was far more advanced at that time. Or maybe you’d be interested in knowing more about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.indiatoday.in/education-today/gk-current-affairs/story/laws-of-motion-327727-2016-07-06" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Newton’s Principia</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Although I couldn’t find an article about the history of Jewish booksellers, I did find&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cnn.com/2017/04/11/living/jewish-books-passover/index.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">an interview with Adam Kirsch</a>, an author who wrote a book called&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3nxrf5M" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The People and the Books,</a>&nbsp;about the importance of books to Jewish people throughout history. On our Trailblazers episode with Radclyffe, she&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/10/10/s0405-trailblazer-radclyffe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">talked about the importance of queer bookstores.&nbsp;</a></li><li>What is the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.abebooks.com/books/rarebooks/collecting-guide/what_books_collect/advanced-copies.shtml" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">difference between ARCs and first editions</a>? Time to check and see if your copy of&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/rebeccaromney/status/1436068319367417860?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Flame and the Flower</a>&nbsp;to see if it's a&nbsp;<a href="https://www.abebooks.com/books/rarebooks/collecting-guide/what_books_collect/collecting-first-editions.shtml" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">first edition</a>.</li><li>Jen called it a garage sale and Sarah called it a Tag sale,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.rd.com/list/regional-sayings-phrases-words/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">which is exactly right considering where they grew up</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.abaa.org/glossary/entry/foxing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Foxing</a>&nbsp;isn’t as sexy as you’d think when we’re talking about rare books.</li><li>The 2019 Rita ceremony included&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/shL1kNwr0nA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a video of romance firsts</a>.</li><li>In John Markert’s&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3mgH0P5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Publishing Romance: The History of an Industry, 1940s to the Present,</a>&nbsp;he discusses a series called Adam that failed because they were romances only from the hero’s point of view.</li><li>Time to shake all your&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/547943/revisit-your-teen-years-vintage-sweet-valley-high-editions" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sweet Valley High</a>&nbsp;books out of your closet, fellow Gen-Xers.</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, we’re thrilled to have Rebecca Romney with us! Rebecca is a rare books dealer and the woman behind The Romance Novel in English, a 100-lot collection of rare romance novels and other romance-adjacent paraphernalia. We had a great time talking to her about the collection, her motivation to develop it, her hopes for its future at the Lilly Library at the University of Indiana, and about how romance lovers can start thinking about collecting books! We hope you love this one as much as we did!</p><p>Our next read along is Uzma Jalaluddin’s <em>Hana Khan Carries On</em>. Find it at:&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3mqWsam" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/hana-khan-carries-on-uzma-jalaluddin/1137108798?ean=9780593336373" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/hana-khan-carries-on/id1532649125" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/hana-khan-carries-on-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780593336366" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">at your local indie</a>. </p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><ul><li>Welcome&nbsp;<a href="https://www.rebeccaromney.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rebecca Romney</a>. She is the cofounder of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.typepunchmatrix.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Type Punch Matrix</a>, a rare books firm based in Washington DC. She started out working at&nbsp;<a href="https://www.baumanrarebooks.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bauman Rare Books in Las Vegas.</a>&nbsp;You can also watch her in action from old appearances on Pawn Stars where&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/0RA_B5p2JYg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">she routinely broke people’s hearts about the values of their rare books.</a></li><li>Rebecca recently put together a collection that was purchased by the&nbsp;<a href="https://libraries.indiana.edu/lilly-library" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lilly Library at the University of Indiana</a>&nbsp;called&nbsp;<a href="https://www.typepunchmatrix.com/images/upload/the-romance-novel-in-english-online.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Romance Novel in English: A Survey in English 1769-1999.</a>&nbsp;You can follow Lilly Librarian&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/arkhamlibrarian" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rebecca</a>&nbsp;on twitter; they sound like a great resource for romance, and for planning a visit!&nbsp;</li><li>On the episode, we extensively discuss some of the general themes and specific items in the catalogue. Two authors that didn’t make it into the catalogue because Rebecca couldn’t find copies:&nbsp;<a href="https://virginia-anthology.org/eliza-haywood/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Eliza Haywood</a>and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/6053/6053-h/6053-h.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Evelina by Frances Burney.</a></li><li>The Elizabeth Lowell book&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3CksLhJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">about a gold dealer in Las Vegas is called Running Scared</a>&nbsp;and is part of the Rarities Unlimited series.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.abebooks.com/collections/sc/silver-gold/1FV4Adw2HiXzWbi3779CSV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gold books aren't really a thing</a>, but&nbsp;<a href="http://web.ceu.hu/medstud/manual/MMM/gilding.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">gold leaf and illumiated manuscripts are</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Here’s an explainer on&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bl.uk/collection-items/gutenberg-bible" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Gutenberg Bible</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/67n3PH9wawE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a clip from Pawn Stars where an individual leaf is available</a>, and here is a page from&nbsp;<a href="https://www.finebooksmagazine.com/news/gutenberg-bible-leaf-be-auctioned" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a 2021 auction site selling a leaf</a>. But remember that&nbsp;<a href="https://www.printmuseum.org/blog/2021-aapi-historymonth-pt1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bookmaking in China</a>&nbsp;was far more advanced at that time. Or maybe you’d be interested in knowing more about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.indiatoday.in/education-today/gk-current-affairs/story/laws-of-motion-327727-2016-07-06" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Newton’s Principia</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Although I couldn’t find an article about the history of Jewish booksellers, I did find&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cnn.com/2017/04/11/living/jewish-books-passover/index.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">an interview with Adam Kirsch</a>, an author who wrote a book called&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3nxrf5M" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The People and the Books,</a>&nbsp;about the importance of books to Jewish people throughout history. On our Trailblazers episode with Radclyffe, she&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/10/10/s0405-trailblazer-radclyffe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">talked about the importance of queer bookstores.&nbsp;</a></li><li>What is the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.abebooks.com/books/rarebooks/collecting-guide/what_books_collect/advanced-copies.shtml" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">difference between ARCs and first editions</a>? Time to check and see if your copy of&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/rebeccaromney/status/1436068319367417860?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Flame and the Flower</a>&nbsp;to see if it's a&nbsp;<a href="https://www.abebooks.com/books/rarebooks/collecting-guide/what_books_collect/collecting-first-editions.shtml" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">first edition</a>.</li><li>Jen called it a garage sale and Sarah called it a Tag sale,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.rd.com/list/regional-sayings-phrases-words/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">which is exactly right considering where they grew up</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.abaa.org/glossary/entry/foxing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Foxing</a>&nbsp;isn’t as sexy as you’d think when we’re talking about rare books.</li><li>The 2019 Rita ceremony included&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/shL1kNwr0nA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a video of romance firsts</a>.</li><li>In John Markert’s&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3mgH0P5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Publishing Romance: The History of an Industry, 1940s to the Present,</a>&nbsp;he discusses a series called Adam that failed because they were romances only from the hero’s point of view.</li><li>Time to shake all your&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/547943/revisit-your-teen-years-vintage-sweet-valley-high-editions" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sweet Valley High</a>&nbsp;books out of your closet, fellow Gen-Xers.</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/10/26/s0407-a-conversation-with-rare-book-dealer-rebecca-romney]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:61780116b7821b692f0ed474</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 27 Oct 2021 03:57:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/d2297993-852c-4b0c-bbc9-7b33124afc80/fated-mates-rebecca-romney.mp3" length="70460397" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:12:52</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>7</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>This week, we’re thrilled to have Rebecca Romney with us! Rebecca is a rare books dealer and the woman behind The Romance Novel in English, a 100-lot collection of rare romance novels and other romance-adjacent paraphernalia. We had a great time talking to her about the collection, her motivation to develop it, her hopes for its future at the Lilly Library at the University of Indiana, and about how romance lovers can start thinking about collecting books! We hope you love this one as much as we did!</itunes:summary><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="video/youtube" title="S04.07: A Conversation with Rare Book Dealer Rebecca Romney"><podcast:source uri="https://youtu.be/FDpvFqD0iaI"/></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>S04.06: Monster Romance with Jenny Nordbak</title><itunes:title>Monster Romance with Jenny Nordbak</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We’re talking minotaurs and spiders and orcs and gargoyles…it’s Monster Romance week at Fated Mates! Jenny Nordbak of the Wicked Wallflowers and Bonkers Romance podcast  joins us to talk about this explosive, extremely popular genre that both intrigues and perplexes us. </p><p>Our next read along is Uzma Jalaluddin’s <em>Hana Khan Carries On</em>. Find it at:&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3mqWsam" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/hana-khan-carries-on-uzma-jalaluddin/1137108798?ean=9780593336373" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/hana-khan-carries-on/id1532649125" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/hana-khan-carries-on-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780593336366" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">at your local indie</a>. </p><p><em>This episode sponsored by </em>Radish: Bottomless content; one cute app. Visit <a href="https://radish.social/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">radish.social/fatedmates</a> for 24 free coins and to read your first Radish story.</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/jennynordbak" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Welcome Jenny Nordbak</a>. Her first romance,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3ncbRvI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">His Leading Lady</a>, was just released, (<a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/editing-services" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen did the final developmental edit!</a>) and she just started&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bonkersromance.com/home" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Bonkers Romance podcast</a>&nbsp;with Melody from the Heaving Bosoms podcast. Check it out!</p><p>Although there is lots of crossover with paranormal or alien, Jenny defines monsters as: creatures who don’t shift into humans, you’d definitely scream if you saw them running down the street, but human enough to be able to bang. Although no one mentioned on the episode, here is&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/MeredithIreland/status/1433861549316349968?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the single greatest monster explanation ever seen on twitter</a>.&nbsp;</p><p><a href="https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/505/342/d18.png" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The cartoon Sarah refered to</a>&nbsp;is called&nbsp;<a href="https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/harkness-test" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Harkness Test</a>, and it's a reference to Dr. Who.&nbsp;</p><p>More about what it means to go into&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vice.com/en/article/bjpjn4/amazon-erotica-best-seller-rankings-removed" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Amazon dungeon</a>--this, of course, is related to&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/23/22638310/onlyfans-ban-explicit-content-payment-processing-visa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">attempts to deplatform sex everywhere on the internet</a>. Besialisty cartoon that Sarah is going to look for&nbsp;</p><p>Baby Jenny imprinted on Fantasia, specifically&nbsp;<a href="https://disney.fandom.com/wiki/Centaurs_(Fantasia)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the centaurs</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://disney.fandom.com/wiki/Chernabog" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chernabog</a>. She also loved&nbsp;<a href="https://disney.fandom.com/wiki/Gargoyles" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Gargoyles TV show</a>&nbsp;and the&nbsp;<a href="https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/Orcs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">orcs in Lord of the Rings</a>.</p><p><a href="https://jezebel.com/knotting-is-the-weird-fanfic-sex-trend-that-cannot-be-u-1606931767" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What is Knotting?</a></p><p>Here’s listener&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/MeasuredAndSlow/status/1436417087975542787?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alyssa Long’s terrific thread about monsters and disability</a>. Often, writers use&nbsp;<a href="https://mythcreants.com/blog/ridding-your-monsters-of-ableism/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ableist tropes in their monster-creation</a>, and Alyssa’s thread talks about how and why this is harmful. (Any mistakes in the summarizing of this thread are Jen’s!) In that thread, Alyssa shared&nbsp;<a href="https://www.tor.com/2016/03/15/the-monster-in-the-mirror-on-horror-disability-and-loving-both-at-once/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a great article about ableism in the horror genre</a>, and although we loved&nbsp;<a href="https://gizmodo.com/what-the-witcher-gets-wrong-and-right-about-disabilit-1840609870" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Witcher, it reinforced some of the most common problems</a>&nbsp;with putting disabilities on the screen.</p><p>Sarah is hosting a writing workship to kick of NaNo--<a href="https://www.sarahmaclean.net/writing-romance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">register here</a>!</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We’re talking minotaurs and spiders and orcs and gargoyles…it’s Monster Romance week at Fated Mates! Jenny Nordbak of the Wicked Wallflowers and Bonkers Romance podcast  joins us to talk about this explosive, extremely popular genre that both intrigues and perplexes us. </p><p>Our next read along is Uzma Jalaluddin’s <em>Hana Khan Carries On</em>. Find it at:&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3mqWsam" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/hana-khan-carries-on-uzma-jalaluddin/1137108798?ean=9780593336373" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/hana-khan-carries-on/id1532649125" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/hana-khan-carries-on-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780593336366" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">at your local indie</a>. </p><p><em>This episode sponsored by </em>Radish: Bottomless content; one cute app. Visit <a href="https://radish.social/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">radish.social/fatedmates</a> for 24 free coins and to read your first Radish story.</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/jennynordbak" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Welcome Jenny Nordbak</a>. Her first romance,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3ncbRvI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">His Leading Lady</a>, was just released, (<a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/editing-services" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen did the final developmental edit!</a>) and she just started&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bonkersromance.com/home" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Bonkers Romance podcast</a>&nbsp;with Melody from the Heaving Bosoms podcast. Check it out!</p><p>Although there is lots of crossover with paranormal or alien, Jenny defines monsters as: creatures who don’t shift into humans, you’d definitely scream if you saw them running down the street, but human enough to be able to bang. Although no one mentioned on the episode, here is&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/MeredithIreland/status/1433861549316349968?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the single greatest monster explanation ever seen on twitter</a>.&nbsp;</p><p><a href="https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/505/342/d18.png" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The cartoon Sarah refered to</a>&nbsp;is called&nbsp;<a href="https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/harkness-test" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Harkness Test</a>, and it's a reference to Dr. Who.&nbsp;</p><p>More about what it means to go into&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vice.com/en/article/bjpjn4/amazon-erotica-best-seller-rankings-removed" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Amazon dungeon</a>--this, of course, is related to&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/23/22638310/onlyfans-ban-explicit-content-payment-processing-visa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">attempts to deplatform sex everywhere on the internet</a>. Besialisty cartoon that Sarah is going to look for&nbsp;</p><p>Baby Jenny imprinted on Fantasia, specifically&nbsp;<a href="https://disney.fandom.com/wiki/Centaurs_(Fantasia)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the centaurs</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://disney.fandom.com/wiki/Chernabog" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chernabog</a>. She also loved&nbsp;<a href="https://disney.fandom.com/wiki/Gargoyles" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Gargoyles TV show</a>&nbsp;and the&nbsp;<a href="https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/Orcs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">orcs in Lord of the Rings</a>.</p><p><a href="https://jezebel.com/knotting-is-the-weird-fanfic-sex-trend-that-cannot-be-u-1606931767" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What is Knotting?</a></p><p>Here’s listener&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/MeasuredAndSlow/status/1436417087975542787?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alyssa Long’s terrific thread about monsters and disability</a>. Often, writers use&nbsp;<a href="https://mythcreants.com/blog/ridding-your-monsters-of-ableism/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ableist tropes in their monster-creation</a>, and Alyssa’s thread talks about how and why this is harmful. (Any mistakes in the summarizing of this thread are Jen’s!) In that thread, Alyssa shared&nbsp;<a href="https://www.tor.com/2016/03/15/the-monster-in-the-mirror-on-horror-disability-and-loving-both-at-once/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a great article about ableism in the horror genre</a>, and although we loved&nbsp;<a href="https://gizmodo.com/what-the-witcher-gets-wrong-and-right-about-disabilit-1840609870" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Witcher, it reinforced some of the most common problems</a>&nbsp;with putting disabilities on the screen.</p><p>Sarah is hosting a writing workship to kick of NaNo--<a href="https://www.sarahmaclean.net/writing-romance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">register here</a>!</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/10/18/s0406-monster-romance-interstitial-with-jenny-nordbak]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:616db4f3738edc511b0bfb8f</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2021 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/6b0fbc07-e193-4e9b-9e31-af90dec1b7e7/fated-mates-monsters-final-revb.mp3" length="85272115" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:24:13</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>6</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We’re talking minotaurs and spiders and orcs and gargoyles…it’s Monster Romance week at Fated Mates! Jenny Nordbak of the Wicked Wallflowers and Bonkers Romance podcast  joins us to talk about this explosive, extremely popular genre that both intrigues and perplexes us. 

This episode sponsored by Radish: Bottomless content; one cute app. Visit radish.social/fatedmates for 24 free coins and to read your first Radish story.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-6b0fbc07-e193-4e9b-9e31-af90dec1b7e7.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S04.05: Radclyffe: Trailblazer</title><itunes:title>Radclyffe: A Trailblazer Episode</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This week, we’re continuing our Trailblazer episodes with Radclyffe—author of lesbian romances and founder of the LGBTQIA+ publisher, Bold Strokes Books. We talk about her path to romance as a reader and an author, and a publisher, about the early days of queer romance, about the importance of independent booksellers to the queer community, and about how readers find themselves in books.</p><p>Thank you to Radclyffe for taking the time to talk to us, and share her story.  </p><p>Our next read along is Uzma Jalaluddin’s <em>Hana Kahn Carries On</em>. Find it at:&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3mqWsam" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/hana-khan-carries-on-uzma-jalaluddin/1137108798?ean=9780593336373" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/hana-khan-carries-on/id1532649125" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/hana-khan-carries-on-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780593336366" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">at your local indie</a>. </p><p><em>This episode sponsored by </em>Radish: Bottomless content; one cute app. Visit <a href="https://radish.social/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">radish.social/fatedmates</a> for 24 free coins and to read your first Radish story.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome&nbsp;<a href="https://www.radfic.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Radclyffe</a>, romance author and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.boldstrokesbooks.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">founder of Bold Strokes Books.</a>&nbsp;The internet archive has preserved&nbsp;<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20010602073659/http://www.radfic.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">her fanfiction site</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Bookstores mentioned:&nbsp;<a href="https://savingplaces.org/stories/giovannis-room-and-the-fate-of-lgbt-bookstores-in-a-dying-industry#.YWTRSdnMLrA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Giovanni’s Room in Philadelphia</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://womencraftsptown.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Womancrafts in Provincetown</a>, and an article about the current state of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vice.com/en/article/7kvmbg/queer-bookstores-are-lit" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Queer bookstores in America.&nbsp;</a></li><li>Publishing and Distributors Radclyffe mentioned:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naiad_Press" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Naiad Press</a>, founded by&nbsp;<a href="https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/people/article/49469-obituary-barbara-grier-founder-of-naiad-press.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barbara Greer</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anyda_Marchant" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah Aldridge</a>, and Muriel Crawford; Regal Crest Enterprises is now&nbsp;<a href="https://flashpointpublications.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Flashpoint Publications</a>;&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_Medal_Books" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fawcett</a>;&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bellabooks.com/category/bella-author-linda-hill/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bella Books</a>founded by Linda Hill; and&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alyson_Books" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alyson Books</a>.</li><li>Awards mentioned:&nbsp;<a href="https://lambdaliterary.org/awards/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lambda Literary Awards</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/awards/rwa-prism-award~236~eroticaromantica~1596.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the RWA Prism award</a></li><li>Further Reading: Creating a Literary Culture: A Short, Selective, and Incomplete History of LGBT Publishing,&nbsp;<a href="https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/creating-a-literary-culture-a-short-selective-and-incomplete-history-of-lgbt-publishing-part-i/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Part I</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/creating-a-literary-culture-a-short-selective-and-incomplete-history-of-lgbt-publishing-part-ii/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Part 2</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/creating-a-literary-culture-a-short-selective-and-incomplete-history-of-lgbt-publishing-part-iii/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Part 3</a>&nbsp;by Michael Neva in the LARB.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/10/10/s0405-trailblazer-radclyffe </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, we’re continuing our Trailblazer episodes with Radclyffe—author of lesbian romances and founder of the LGBTQIA+ publisher, Bold Strokes Books. We talk about her path to romance as a reader and an author, and a publisher, about the early days of queer romance, about the importance of independent booksellers to the queer community, and about how readers find themselves in books.</p><p>Thank you to Radclyffe for taking the time to talk to us, and share her story.  </p><p>Our next read along is Uzma Jalaluddin’s <em>Hana Kahn Carries On</em>. Find it at:&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3mqWsam" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/hana-khan-carries-on-uzma-jalaluddin/1137108798?ean=9780593336373" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/hana-khan-carries-on/id1532649125" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/hana-khan-carries-on-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780593336366" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">at your local indie</a>. </p><p><em>This episode sponsored by </em>Radish: Bottomless content; one cute app. Visit <a href="https://radish.social/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">radish.social/fatedmates</a> for 24 free coins and to read your first Radish story.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome&nbsp;<a href="https://www.radfic.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Radclyffe</a>, romance author and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.boldstrokesbooks.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">founder of Bold Strokes Books.</a>&nbsp;The internet archive has preserved&nbsp;<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20010602073659/http://www.radfic.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">her fanfiction site</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Bookstores mentioned:&nbsp;<a href="https://savingplaces.org/stories/giovannis-room-and-the-fate-of-lgbt-bookstores-in-a-dying-industry#.YWTRSdnMLrA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Giovanni’s Room in Philadelphia</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://womencraftsptown.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Womancrafts in Provincetown</a>, and an article about the current state of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vice.com/en/article/7kvmbg/queer-bookstores-are-lit" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Queer bookstores in America.&nbsp;</a></li><li>Publishing and Distributors Radclyffe mentioned:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naiad_Press" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Naiad Press</a>, founded by&nbsp;<a href="https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/people/article/49469-obituary-barbara-grier-founder-of-naiad-press.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barbara Greer</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anyda_Marchant" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah Aldridge</a>, and Muriel Crawford; Regal Crest Enterprises is now&nbsp;<a href="https://flashpointpublications.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Flashpoint Publications</a>;&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_Medal_Books" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fawcett</a>;&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bellabooks.com/category/bella-author-linda-hill/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bella Books</a>founded by Linda Hill; and&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alyson_Books" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alyson Books</a>.</li><li>Awards mentioned:&nbsp;<a href="https://lambdaliterary.org/awards/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lambda Literary Awards</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/awards/rwa-prism-award~236~eroticaromantica~1596.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the RWA Prism award</a></li><li>Further Reading: Creating a Literary Culture: A Short, Selective, and Incomplete History of LGBT Publishing,&nbsp;<a href="https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/creating-a-literary-culture-a-short-selective-and-incomplete-history-of-lgbt-publishing-part-i/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Part I</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/creating-a-literary-culture-a-short-selective-and-incomplete-history-of-lgbt-publishing-part-ii/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Part 2</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/creating-a-literary-culture-a-short-selective-and-incomplete-history-of-lgbt-publishing-part-iii/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Part 3</a>&nbsp;by Michael Neva in the LARB.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/10/10/s0405-trailblazer-radclyffe </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/10/10/s0405-trailblazer-radclyffe]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:61637e2be182b11f3f1aae2e</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/b06f32f9-ecab-46fe-8f5f-26f7ef74ce86/red-trailblazers.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2021 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/97326307-ce60-4f3c-a089-c40618842f3c/radclyffe-final-revb.mp3" length="68358079" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:06:32</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>5</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>This week, we’re continuing our Trailblazer episodes with Radclyffe—author of lesbian romances and founder of the LGBTQIA+ publisher, Bold Strokes Books. We talk about her path to romance as a reader and an author, and a publisher, about the early days of queer romance, about the importance of independent booksellers to the queer community, and about how readers find themselves in books.

Thank you to Radclyffe for taking the time to talk to us, and share her story.</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/cf551508-4aa9-4dee-ac1a-faa4519394d0/index.html" type="text/html"/><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-97326307-ce60-4f3c-a089-c40618842f3c.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S04.04: Ravished by Amanda Quick: The difference between fossils and Fossils</title><itunes:title>Ravished by Amanda Quick: The difference between fossils and Fossils</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>At some point, we were going to have to talk about fossils, right? <em>Ravished</em> is the bluestocking book that started it all for Sarah, and an absolute classic for Jen. On the reread, we absolutely loved it, which just goes to show that Amanda Quick (aka Jayne Ann Krentz) is a total legend. We’ll talk about the appeal of big heroes who know what they want and just go for it, about how difficult it is to write two people who genuinely enjoy each other’s company from the jump, about how awesome it is when a heroine is totally down with doing it in a cave, and about the broad appeal of greatcoats. </p><p>Our next read along is Uzma Jalaluddin’s <em>Hana Kahn Carries On</em>. Find it at:&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3mqWsam" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/hana-khan-carries-on-uzma-jalaluddin/1137108798?ean=9780593336373" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/hana-khan-carries-on/id1532649125" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/hana-khan-carries-on-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780593336366" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">at your local indie</a>. </p><p><em>Sponsored by </em>Radish: Bottomless content; one cute app. Visit <a href="https://radish.social/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">radish.social/fatedmates</a> for 24 free coins and to read your first Radish story.</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Ravished was originally published in 1992 by&nbsp;<a href="https://jayneannkrentz.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jayne Ann Krenz</a>, who has a lot of pen names, including Jayne Taylor, Jayne Bentley, Stephanie James and Amanda Glass. Now she publishes under 3 names: Jayne Ann Krenz (contemporary), Jayne Castle (PNR), and Amanda Quick (historical). She has said, “I am often asked why I use a variety of pen names. The answer is that this way readers always know which of my three worlds they will be entering when they pick up one of my books.”</li><li>The Bluestocking archetype is about a woman who is interested in science and learning in her own right, and is a reference to the&nbsp;<a href="https://artuk.org/discover/stories/who-were-the-bluestockings" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bluestocking Society</a>, which was founded in the 1750s by Elizabeth Montagu and Elizabeth Vesey.&nbsp;</li><li>Some hallmarks of a&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bl.uk/romantics-and-victorians/articles/the-origins-of-the-gothic" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">gothic novel</a>&nbsp;are “the discovery of mysterious elements of antiquity” and also&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jacketscreator.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/tom-hardy-taboo-coat.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">handsome men in great coats.&nbsp;</a></li><li>All about the&nbsp;<a href="https://pianistmusings.com/2019/05/10/the-scandalous-history-of-the-waltz/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">waltz and why it was so scandalous</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1175892103727128580?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen’s thread about fossils</a>, which are just&nbsp;<a href="https://www.writingclasses.com/toolbox/articles/what-is-a-mcguffin" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a McGuffin</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Maybe you are more interested than Jen and would like to learn about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/archaeology/g3051/fake-fossils/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">how to fake a fossil.&nbsp;</a></li><li>Author&nbsp;<a href="https://vanessariley.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vanessa Riley</a>&nbsp;is committed to reviving bananas regency names for men.&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3ld7hNO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">In A Duke, The Lady, and a Baby</a>, the hero’s name is Busick.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/10/3/s0404-ravished-by-amanda-quick </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At some point, we were going to have to talk about fossils, right? <em>Ravished</em> is the bluestocking book that started it all for Sarah, and an absolute classic for Jen. On the reread, we absolutely loved it, which just goes to show that Amanda Quick (aka Jayne Ann Krentz) is a total legend. We’ll talk about the appeal of big heroes who know what they want and just go for it, about how difficult it is to write two people who genuinely enjoy each other’s company from the jump, about how awesome it is when a heroine is totally down with doing it in a cave, and about the broad appeal of greatcoats. </p><p>Our next read along is Uzma Jalaluddin’s <em>Hana Kahn Carries On</em>. Find it at:&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3mqWsam" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/hana-khan-carries-on-uzma-jalaluddin/1137108798?ean=9780593336373" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/hana-khan-carries-on/id1532649125" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/hana-khan-carries-on-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780593336366" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">at your local indie</a>. </p><p><em>Sponsored by </em>Radish: Bottomless content; one cute app. Visit <a href="https://radish.social/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">radish.social/fatedmates</a> for 24 free coins and to read your first Radish story.</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Ravished was originally published in 1992 by&nbsp;<a href="https://jayneannkrentz.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jayne Ann Krenz</a>, who has a lot of pen names, including Jayne Taylor, Jayne Bentley, Stephanie James and Amanda Glass. Now she publishes under 3 names: Jayne Ann Krenz (contemporary), Jayne Castle (PNR), and Amanda Quick (historical). She has said, “I am often asked why I use a variety of pen names. The answer is that this way readers always know which of my three worlds they will be entering when they pick up one of my books.”</li><li>The Bluestocking archetype is about a woman who is interested in science and learning in her own right, and is a reference to the&nbsp;<a href="https://artuk.org/discover/stories/who-were-the-bluestockings" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bluestocking Society</a>, which was founded in the 1750s by Elizabeth Montagu and Elizabeth Vesey.&nbsp;</li><li>Some hallmarks of a&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bl.uk/romantics-and-victorians/articles/the-origins-of-the-gothic" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">gothic novel</a>&nbsp;are “the discovery of mysterious elements of antiquity” and also&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jacketscreator.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/tom-hardy-taboo-coat.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">handsome men in great coats.&nbsp;</a></li><li>All about the&nbsp;<a href="https://pianistmusings.com/2019/05/10/the-scandalous-history-of-the-waltz/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">waltz and why it was so scandalous</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1175892103727128580?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen’s thread about fossils</a>, which are just&nbsp;<a href="https://www.writingclasses.com/toolbox/articles/what-is-a-mcguffin" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a McGuffin</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Maybe you are more interested than Jen and would like to learn about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/archaeology/g3051/fake-fossils/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">how to fake a fossil.&nbsp;</a></li><li>Author&nbsp;<a href="https://vanessariley.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vanessa Riley</a>&nbsp;is committed to reviving bananas regency names for men.&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3ld7hNO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">In A Duke, The Lady, and a Baby</a>, the hero’s name is Busick.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/10/3/s0404-ravished-by-amanda-quick </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/10/3/s0404-ravished-by-amanda-quick]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:61598d01e1c7883408c733cc</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/741fbd83-558c-42bd-9d69-d3b830900869/pink-read-along.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2021 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/fd3e0928-04a8-4cce-a058-5597ece8c7db/fated-mates-ravished-final-sponsored-by-radish.mp3" length="70539873" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:08:46</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>4</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>At some point, we were going to have to talk about fossils, right? Ravished is the bluestocking book that started it all for Sarah, and an absolute classic for Jen. On the reread, we absolutely loved it, which just goes to show that Amanda Quick (aka Jayne Ann Krentz) is a total legend. We’ll talk about the appeal of big heroes who know what they want and just go for it, about how difficult it is to write two people who genuinely enjoy each other’s company from the jump, about how awesome it is when a heroine is totally down with doing it in a cave, and about the broad appeal of greatcoats.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-fd3e0928-04a8-4cce-a058-5597ece8c7db.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S04.03: Secret Baby Interstitial</title><itunes:title>S04.03: Secret Baby Interstitial</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We’re doing a big one this week — secret babies! We’re talking the babies and the pregnancies—and why they are such a juggernaut in romance. We’re talking about why people are all in on secret babies or absolutely all out on them, we’re pinpointing the itch they scratch and why have they installed such buttons in so many of us, and we’re getting to the bottom to why these secret babies are often sired by billionaires. It’s a ride.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Next week, our first read along is Amanda Quick’s <em>Ravished</em>—which Sarah describes as “Harriet, in a cave, with a rake.” It’s great. Get reading at:&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3EjzfPh" target="">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/ravished-amanda-quick/1100273252" target="">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>,<a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/ravished/id419974704?ct=books_ravished&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_box_link&amp;ls=1" target="">&nbsp;Apple Books</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/ravished-2" target="">Kobo</a>, or&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780553293166" target="">at your local indie</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><em>Sponsored by </em>Radish: Bottomless content; one cute app. Visit <a href="https://radish.social/fatedmates" target="">radish.social/fatedmates</a> for 24 free coins and to read your first Radish story.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The secret baby trope can be broken down into secret baby or secret child. Secret pregnancy is just earlier on the timeline, while surprise pregnancy. Often, a secret baby plot happens because there is a fear that the baby is in danger.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">More about the word&nbsp;<a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/interstitial">Interstitial</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We recently re-released our&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/9/6/bonus-rerelease-of-bodily-autonomy-interstitial">bodily autonomy interstitial</a>&nbsp;from 2019.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you are on Facebook, join Sarah’s&nbsp;<a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/osrbc/">OSCRB group (Old School Romance Book Club</a>) if you want more romance talk.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">On some old school covers, you see lots of people with&nbsp;<a href="https://i.pinimg.com/originals/67/73/17/6773176bf05b1d9485f623b285341ca4.jpg">gravity defying hair.&nbsp;</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Sarah mentioned the “Four Js” and she meant these old school historical romance powerhouses:&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/10/7/s025-gentle-rogue">Johanna Lindsay</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/tag/Jude+deveraux">Jude Deveraux</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/12/7/s0318-julie-garwood-interstitial">Julie Garwood</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/6/9/s0240-a-kingdom-of-dreams">Judith McNaught</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The most&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/8/1/s0351-mistresses-courtesans-and-cheating-in-romance-interstitial-with-adriana-herrera">dangerous third rail in romance is cheating</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">More about&nbsp;<a href="https://theconversation.com/prince-harry-and-the-history-of-the-heir-and-the-spare-96685">“the heir and the spare.”</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.wired.com/2014/11/oral-history-of-right-stuff/">The Right Stuff</a>&nbsp;is a movie about astronauts, but&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/570210/terms-of-endearment-movie-facts">Terms of Endearment</a>&nbsp;is the movie where Jack Nicholson plays an astronaut. The movie was released in late 1983, and Long Time Coming was released in 1988.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The Cut went ahead and published two pieces about Sally Rooney’s latest book, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thecut.com/2021/09/why-is-the-sex-in-sally-rooneys-books-so-good.html">they loved the sex in Rooney's book</a>&nbsp;and think&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thecut.com/2021/09/so-you-want-to-read-a-sexy-book.html">folks want more</a>, but somehow they’ve&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1442603653429354497?s=20">never heard of genre romance.&nbsp;</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Given that description of the book Sarah was looking for, Jen thinks if it exists, it could have been&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/GYOeYIehfig">a Harlequin Blaze</a>, rather than a Loveswept or a Desire. But who knows!&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Next week, we’re reading&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3CVQODO">Ravished</a>, a 1992 historical about fossils by Amanda Quick. Yes,&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1175892103727128580?s=20">actual fossils</a>.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We’re doing a big one this week — secret babies! We’re talking the babies and the pregnancies—and why they are such a juggernaut in romance. We’re talking about why people are all in on secret babies or absolutely all out on them, we’re pinpointing the itch they scratch and why have they installed such buttons in so many of us, and we’re getting to the bottom to why these secret babies are often sired by billionaires. It’s a ride.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Next week, our first read along is Amanda Quick’s <em>Ravished</em>—which Sarah describes as “Harriet, in a cave, with a rake.” It’s great. Get reading at:&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3EjzfPh" target="">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/ravished-amanda-quick/1100273252" target="">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>,<a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/ravished/id419974704?ct=books_ravished&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_box_link&amp;ls=1" target="">&nbsp;Apple Books</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/ravished-2" target="">Kobo</a>, or&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780553293166" target="">at your local indie</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><em>Sponsored by </em>Radish: Bottomless content; one cute app. Visit <a href="https://radish.social/fatedmates" target="">radish.social/fatedmates</a> for 24 free coins and to read your first Radish story.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The secret baby trope can be broken down into secret baby or secret child. Secret pregnancy is just earlier on the timeline, while surprise pregnancy. Often, a secret baby plot happens because there is a fear that the baby is in danger.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">More about the word&nbsp;<a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/interstitial">Interstitial</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We recently re-released our&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/9/6/bonus-rerelease-of-bodily-autonomy-interstitial">bodily autonomy interstitial</a>&nbsp;from 2019.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you are on Facebook, join Sarah’s&nbsp;<a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/osrbc/">OSCRB group (Old School Romance Book Club</a>) if you want more romance talk.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">On some old school covers, you see lots of people with&nbsp;<a href="https://i.pinimg.com/originals/67/73/17/6773176bf05b1d9485f623b285341ca4.jpg">gravity defying hair.&nbsp;</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Sarah mentioned the “Four Js” and she meant these old school historical romance powerhouses:&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/10/7/s025-gentle-rogue">Johanna Lindsay</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/tag/Jude+deveraux">Jude Deveraux</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/12/7/s0318-julie-garwood-interstitial">Julie Garwood</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/6/9/s0240-a-kingdom-of-dreams">Judith McNaught</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The most&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/8/1/s0351-mistresses-courtesans-and-cheating-in-romance-interstitial-with-adriana-herrera">dangerous third rail in romance is cheating</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">More about&nbsp;<a href="https://theconversation.com/prince-harry-and-the-history-of-the-heir-and-the-spare-96685">“the heir and the spare.”</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.wired.com/2014/11/oral-history-of-right-stuff/">The Right Stuff</a>&nbsp;is a movie about astronauts, but&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/570210/terms-of-endearment-movie-facts">Terms of Endearment</a>&nbsp;is the movie where Jack Nicholson plays an astronaut. The movie was released in late 1983, and Long Time Coming was released in 1988.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The Cut went ahead and published two pieces about Sally Rooney’s latest book, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thecut.com/2021/09/why-is-the-sex-in-sally-rooneys-books-so-good.html">they loved the sex in Rooney's book</a>&nbsp;and think&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thecut.com/2021/09/so-you-want-to-read-a-sexy-book.html">folks want more</a>, but somehow they’ve&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1442603653429354497?s=20">never heard of genre romance.&nbsp;</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Given that description of the book Sarah was looking for, Jen thinks if it exists, it could have been&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/GYOeYIehfig">a Harlequin Blaze</a>, rather than a Loveswept or a Desire. But who knows!&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Next week, we’re reading&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3CVQODO">Ravished</a>, a 1992 historical about fossils by Amanda Quick. Yes,&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1175892103727128580?s=20">actual fossils</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/9/26/s0403-secret-baby-interstitial]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:615113f2b479b276ec7930e9</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/8fa1e9dd-7701-4fad-bea8-25a0b46f5f65/purple-interstitial.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2021 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/49d192dc-da9c-454d-bc30-30a51cdfe69f/fated-mates-secret-baby-sponsored-by-radish-final-revd.mp3" length="65479186" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:03:08</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>3</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We’re doing a big one this week — secret babies! We’re talking the babies and the pregnancies—and why they are such a juggernaut in romance. We’re talking about why people are all in on secret babies or absolutely all out on them, we’re pinpointing the itch they scratch and why have they installed such buttons in so many of us, and we’re getting to the bottom to why these secret babies are often sired by billionaires. It’s a ride.</itunes:summary></item><item><title>S04.02: Sandra Brown: Trailblazer</title><itunes:title>S04.02: Sandra Brown Trailblazer</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>The Trailblazers conversations begin this week with the brilliant, fearless Sandra Brown—aka Erin St. Clair and Rachel Ryan. We talk about everything from her first books, acquired by Vivian Stephens for Candlelight Ecstasy, about how Slow Heat in Heaven was her personal game changer, about the beginnings of romantic suspense, and about what makes a Sandra Brown novel, the most recent of which, Blind Tiger, was released last month.</p><p>Thank you to Sandra Brown for taking the time to talk to us, and share her story.  </p><p>We’ve got an interstitial episode coming your way next week, but our first read along (in two weeks) is Amanda Quick’s <em>Ravished</em>—which Sarah describes as “Harriet, in a cave, with a rake.” It’s great. Get reading at:&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3EjzfPh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/ravished-amanda-quick/1100273252" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>,<a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/ravished/id419974704?ct=books_ravished&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_box_link&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">&nbsp;Apple Books</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/ravished-2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780553293166" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">at your local indie</a>. </p><p>You have two weeks to read, but in the meantime, sit back, relax, and let us give you a preview of what's to come!&nbsp;Don't forget to like and follow in your favorite podcasting platform!</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p>Welcome to our first trailblazer,&nbsp;<a href="https://sandrabrown.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">romance legend Sandra Brown</a>. Her latest release is Blind Tiger, which was her 73rd book on the New York Times bestseller list. Blind Tiger is a thriller set in Texas during the 1920s.</p><p>Prohibition went into effect on January 1, 1920. In Texas, the town of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.yourglenrosetx.com/article/20120301/news/303019872" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Glen Rose was the Moonshine Capital of Texas.</a></p><p><a href="https://www.britannica.com/technology/Model-T" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Ford Model T</a>&nbsp;was the first mass produced American car. Here’s a&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/vW-V7hY027w" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">video of the actual driving experience</a>&nbsp;of the 1915 model. If you’d like to see a bunch of Model Ts in the same place, you can&nbsp;<a href="https://www.edisonfordwinterestates.org/what-to-see/historic-homes/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">visit the winter home of Thomas Edison in Fort Myers, Florida. Henry Ford visited so often that he eventually bought the home next door</a>. Prohibition and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.history.com/news/how-prohibition-gave-birth-to-nascar" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">moonshining gave birth to NASCAR</a>.</p><p><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/7/6/s0245-vivian-stephens-acquisitions-with-librarian-steve-ammidown" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sandra’s first books were bought by Vivian Stephens</a>&nbsp;for Candlelight Ecstasy under the pen name Rachel Ryan. She wrote for Silhouette under the name Erin St. Clair, and for Pocket as Laura Jordan.&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/BGSU_PopCultLib/status/1091005527222636544?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Carolyn Nichols at Loveswept wanted authors to use their real names</a>, and now all of Sandra's books have been rereleased under her own name.</p><p>Sandra appeared on the cover of one of her own Loveswepts,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/de/book/show/30368.The_Rana_Look" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Rana Look</a>, with actor&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/1996/02/17/arts/mclean-stevenson-dies-at-66-star-of-tv-s-m-a-s-h-series.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mclean Stevenson</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>Some of the romance authors Sandra mentioned:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parris_Afton_Bonds" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Paris Afton Bonds</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candace_Camp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Candace Camp</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/author/mary-lynn-baxter~470.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mary Lynn Baxer</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2009/06/22/real-romance-2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nora Roberts</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jayne_Ann_Krentz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jayne Ann Krentz</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://barbaradelinsky.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barbara Delinksy</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>Some of the thriller/mystery writers Sandra mentioned:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_MacInnes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Helen MacInnes</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evelyn_Anthony" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Evelyn Anthony</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://gaylelynds.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gayle Lynds</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://davidmorrell.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">David Morrell</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jackreacher.com/us/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lee Child</a>.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Trailblazers conversations begin this week with the brilliant, fearless Sandra Brown—aka Erin St. Clair and Rachel Ryan. We talk about everything from her first books, acquired by Vivian Stephens for Candlelight Ecstasy, about how Slow Heat in Heaven was her personal game changer, about the beginnings of romantic suspense, and about what makes a Sandra Brown novel, the most recent of which, Blind Tiger, was released last month.</p><p>Thank you to Sandra Brown for taking the time to talk to us, and share her story.  </p><p>We’ve got an interstitial episode coming your way next week, but our first read along (in two weeks) is Amanda Quick’s <em>Ravished</em>—which Sarah describes as “Harriet, in a cave, with a rake.” It’s great. Get reading at:&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3EjzfPh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/ravished-amanda-quick/1100273252" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>,<a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/ravished/id419974704?ct=books_ravished&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_box_link&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">&nbsp;Apple Books</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/ravished-2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780553293166" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">at your local indie</a>. </p><p>You have two weeks to read, but in the meantime, sit back, relax, and let us give you a preview of what's to come!&nbsp;Don't forget to like and follow in your favorite podcasting platform!</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p>Welcome to our first trailblazer,&nbsp;<a href="https://sandrabrown.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">romance legend Sandra Brown</a>. Her latest release is Blind Tiger, which was her 73rd book on the New York Times bestseller list. Blind Tiger is a thriller set in Texas during the 1920s.</p><p>Prohibition went into effect on January 1, 1920. In Texas, the town of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.yourglenrosetx.com/article/20120301/news/303019872" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Glen Rose was the Moonshine Capital of Texas.</a></p><p><a href="https://www.britannica.com/technology/Model-T" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Ford Model T</a>&nbsp;was the first mass produced American car. Here’s a&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/vW-V7hY027w" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">video of the actual driving experience</a>&nbsp;of the 1915 model. If you’d like to see a bunch of Model Ts in the same place, you can&nbsp;<a href="https://www.edisonfordwinterestates.org/what-to-see/historic-homes/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">visit the winter home of Thomas Edison in Fort Myers, Florida. Henry Ford visited so often that he eventually bought the home next door</a>. Prohibition and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.history.com/news/how-prohibition-gave-birth-to-nascar" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">moonshining gave birth to NASCAR</a>.</p><p><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/7/6/s0245-vivian-stephens-acquisitions-with-librarian-steve-ammidown" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sandra’s first books were bought by Vivian Stephens</a>&nbsp;for Candlelight Ecstasy under the pen name Rachel Ryan. She wrote for Silhouette under the name Erin St. Clair, and for Pocket as Laura Jordan.&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/BGSU_PopCultLib/status/1091005527222636544?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Carolyn Nichols at Loveswept wanted authors to use their real names</a>, and now all of Sandra's books have been rereleased under her own name.</p><p>Sandra appeared on the cover of one of her own Loveswepts,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/de/book/show/30368.The_Rana_Look" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Rana Look</a>, with actor&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/1996/02/17/arts/mclean-stevenson-dies-at-66-star-of-tv-s-m-a-s-h-series.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mclean Stevenson</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>Some of the romance authors Sandra mentioned:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parris_Afton_Bonds" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Paris Afton Bonds</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candace_Camp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Candace Camp</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/author/mary-lynn-baxter~470.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mary Lynn Baxer</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2009/06/22/real-romance-2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nora Roberts</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jayne_Ann_Krentz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jayne Ann Krentz</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://barbaradelinsky.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barbara Delinksy</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>Some of the thriller/mystery writers Sandra mentioned:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_MacInnes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Helen MacInnes</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evelyn_Anthony" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Evelyn Anthony</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://gaylelynds.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gayle Lynds</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://davidmorrell.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">David Morrell</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jackreacher.com/us/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lee Child</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/9/13/s0402-sandra-brown-trailblazer]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:613f862f0991ee1397a25704</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/dcb9c39b-e246-4675-9603-fae4fc4c595b/red-trailblazers.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2021 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/96b05acd-ee20-4f15-97cf-ddec498537fc/sandra-brown-final-reva.mp3" length="91883823" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:29:22</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>2</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>The Trailblazers conversations begin this week with the brilliant, fearless Sandra Brown—aka Erin St. Clair and Rachel Ryan. We talk about everything from her first books, acquired by Vivian Stephens for Candlelight Ecstasy, about how Slow Heat in Heaven was her personal game changer, about the beginnings of romantic suspense, and about what makes a Sandra Brown novel, the most recent of which, Blind Tiger, was released last month.

Thank you to Sandra Brown for taking the time to talk to us, and share her story.</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/bc3ae0a7-d4d7-4013-bf74-09b33d2548c0/index.html" type="text/html"/><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-96b05acd-ee20-4f15-97cf-ddec498537fc.json" type="application/json+chapters"/><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="video/youtube" title="S04.02: Sandra Brown: Trailblazer"><podcast:source uri="https://youtu.be/VRzhtbqI_5w"/></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>S04.01: Welcome to Season Four: Trailblazers and More </title><itunes:title>S04.01: Welcome to Season Four: Trailblazers and More</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Season Four starts today, you Magnificent Firebirds!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://fatedmates.net/the-books">Season One</a> gave us a full lAD deep dive (if you’ve never read Kresley Cole’s Immortals After Dark, general existential malaise is a really good reason to start), and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/season-two-books-that-blooded-us">Season Two</a> gave us <em>The Books That Blooded Us</em>&nbsp;-- the books that made us the romance readers we are. <a href="https://fatedmates.net/season-three-back-on-our-bullsht" target="">Season Three</a> was during a pandemic, so just let us live (but also, there was a Roy Kent episode)! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Now, Season Four is here, and we have — dare we say — a plan?  We’re going to deep dive on books that are new and fabulous, old and transformative, and generally reveal how vast and magnificent the romance pool can get. We’ve got some great interstitials planned, including some fabulous, brilliant guests on deck…and when Munro is released, we’ll (obviously) drop everything and read with you!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">But we’ve got something new and different to add to the mix — a collection of interviews with trailblazers of the genre—the people who have built the romance house over the last fifty years. We’re already blown away by who we have on deck, with many many more to come! Stick with us, it’s going to be a terrific ride. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We begin our read alongs in two weeks with a delicious book that did not bring romance the bluestocking, but definitely made sure we all knew who she was. It’s Amanda Quick’s <em>Ravished</em>—which Sarah describes as “Harriet, in a cave, with a rake.” It’s great. Get reading at:&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3EjzfPh" target="">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/ravished-amanda-quick/1100273252" target="">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>,<a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/ravished/id419974704?ct=books_ravished&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_box_link&amp;ls=1" target="">&nbsp;Apple Books</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/ravished-2" target="">Kobo</a>, or&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780553293166" target="">at your local indie</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">You have two weeks to read, but in the meantime, sit back, relax, and let us give you a preview of what's to come!&nbsp;Don't forget to like and follow in your favorite podcasting platform!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The only Fated Mates episode where one of us was absent was back when&nbsp;<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@jack_connolly14/video/7006822091425058053?is_copy_url=0&amp;is_from_webapp=v1&amp;sender_device=pc&amp;sender_web_id=6908124436122043910">Sarah was sick</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/3/9/s0227-sickbed-romance-interstitial-with-kate-clayborn">Kate came on to talk about sickbed scenes</a>--It was&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/22/nyregion/Coronavirus-new-York-epicenter.html">March of 2020</a>&nbsp;and we weren’t as Coronavirus-aware as we thought.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Keeping our fingers crossed that&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/10/health/children-vaccine.html">the FDA will approve the vaccination for kids between 5 and 12.&nbsp;</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Health care workers are facing&nbsp;<a href="https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2021-08-21/mask-vaccine-conflicts-descend-into-violence-and-harassment">increasingly hostile and frightening aggression from anti-vaxxers.&nbsp;</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We were ahead of the ball on calling&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/7/18/s0348-is-roy-kent-a-romance-hero-the-ted-lasso-interstitial">Ted Lasso as a romance.</a>&nbsp;You should follow&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/phildunster">Phil Dunster</a>, the actor who plays Jamie Tartt, on Twitter. Last week,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.buzzfeed.com/jenniferabidor/ted-lasso-roy-kent-hug-scene">Roy and Jamie had a heartbreaking and perfect moment.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">All about&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaffer_(filmmaking)">gaffing</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scat_singing">scatting</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1821446/">Hannah Waddingham&nbsp;</a>is from the theater world, so maybe that’s why we didn’t realize her brilliance before this show. Apparently we just didn’t realize she was on&nbsp;<a href="https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/game-of-thrones-hannah-waddingham-lena-headey-b1903304.html">Game of Thrones, which sounds terrible.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Kresley&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/EmilyCambron1/status/1430657234321747969?s=20">sent a newsletter</a>&nbsp;and let everyone know that she might have news this month about Munro and the next book in the Arcana chronicles.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=G5YV52ZVD5PJHLV3">You can change the time zone of your Kindle</a>, but I don’t think the books arrive any earlier.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Flame_and_the_Flower">The Flame and the Flower</a>&nbsp;was published in 1972. We will not do a read along of the book, but we will talk about its influence on the genre.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Julie Moody-Freeman, host of&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/black-romance-podcast/id1528266279">the Black Romance Podcast</a>, was a&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/9/24/s0307-an-interview-with-julie-moody-freeman-from-the-black-romance-podcat">guest on Fated Mates at the end of season two</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Here’s&nbsp;<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2009/06/22/real-romance-2">a New Yorker profile of Nora Roberts</a>&nbsp;from 2009, and a&nbsp;<a href="https://people.com/celebrity/danielle-steel-awarded-frances-legion-dhonneur/">People magazine story on Danielle Steel from 2014</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Many of romance's writers and editors have already passed. Two we mentioned:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/carolyn-nichols-editor-who-brought-a-feistiness-to-romance-heroines-dies-at-78/2017/11/01/2fae4dd0-be7a-11e7-959c-fe2b598d8c00_story.html">Carolyn Nichols, the original editor for Loveswept, died in 2017</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://ew.com/books/2019/12/23/johanna-lindsey-romance-novelist-dies/">legendary author Johanna Lindsey died in 2019.&nbsp;</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1427988814916632576?s=20">24 ounces is a lot of fluid</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our first season four read-along will be&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3hyxdB7">Ravished by Amanda Quick</a>.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Season Four starts today, you Magnificent Firebirds!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://fatedmates.net/the-books">Season One</a> gave us a full lAD deep dive (if you’ve never read Kresley Cole’s Immortals After Dark, general existential malaise is a really good reason to start), and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/season-two-books-that-blooded-us">Season Two</a> gave us <em>The Books That Blooded Us</em>&nbsp;-- the books that made us the romance readers we are. <a href="https://fatedmates.net/season-three-back-on-our-bullsht" target="">Season Three</a> was during a pandemic, so just let us live (but also, there was a Roy Kent episode)! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Now, Season Four is here, and we have — dare we say — a plan?  We’re going to deep dive on books that are new and fabulous, old and transformative, and generally reveal how vast and magnificent the romance pool can get. We’ve got some great interstitials planned, including some fabulous, brilliant guests on deck…and when Munro is released, we’ll (obviously) drop everything and read with you!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">But we’ve got something new and different to add to the mix — a collection of interviews with trailblazers of the genre—the people who have built the romance house over the last fifty years. We’re already blown away by who we have on deck, with many many more to come! Stick with us, it’s going to be a terrific ride. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We begin our read alongs in two weeks with a delicious book that did not bring romance the bluestocking, but definitely made sure we all knew who she was. It’s Amanda Quick’s <em>Ravished</em>—which Sarah describes as “Harriet, in a cave, with a rake.” It’s great. Get reading at:&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3EjzfPh" target="">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/ravished-amanda-quick/1100273252" target="">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>,<a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/ravished/id419974704?ct=books_ravished&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_box_link&amp;ls=1" target="">&nbsp;Apple Books</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/ravished-2" target="">Kobo</a>, or&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780553293166" target="">at your local indie</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">You have two weeks to read, but in the meantime, sit back, relax, and let us give you a preview of what's to come!&nbsp;Don't forget to like and follow in your favorite podcasting platform!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The only Fated Mates episode where one of us was absent was back when&nbsp;<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@jack_connolly14/video/7006822091425058053?is_copy_url=0&amp;is_from_webapp=v1&amp;sender_device=pc&amp;sender_web_id=6908124436122043910">Sarah was sick</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/3/9/s0227-sickbed-romance-interstitial-with-kate-clayborn">Kate came on to talk about sickbed scenes</a>--It was&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/22/nyregion/Coronavirus-new-York-epicenter.html">March of 2020</a>&nbsp;and we weren’t as Coronavirus-aware as we thought.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Keeping our fingers crossed that&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/10/health/children-vaccine.html">the FDA will approve the vaccination for kids between 5 and 12.&nbsp;</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Health care workers are facing&nbsp;<a href="https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2021-08-21/mask-vaccine-conflicts-descend-into-violence-and-harassment">increasingly hostile and frightening aggression from anti-vaxxers.&nbsp;</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We were ahead of the ball on calling&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/7/18/s0348-is-roy-kent-a-romance-hero-the-ted-lasso-interstitial">Ted Lasso as a romance.</a>&nbsp;You should follow&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/phildunster">Phil Dunster</a>, the actor who plays Jamie Tartt, on Twitter. Last week,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.buzzfeed.com/jenniferabidor/ted-lasso-roy-kent-hug-scene">Roy and Jamie had a heartbreaking and perfect moment.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">All about&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaffer_(filmmaking)">gaffing</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scat_singing">scatting</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1821446/">Hannah Waddingham&nbsp;</a>is from the theater world, so maybe that’s why we didn’t realize her brilliance before this show. Apparently we just didn’t realize she was on&nbsp;<a href="https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/game-of-thrones-hannah-waddingham-lena-headey-b1903304.html">Game of Thrones, which sounds terrible.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Kresley&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/EmilyCambron1/status/1430657234321747969?s=20">sent a newsletter</a>&nbsp;and let everyone know that she might have news this month about Munro and the next book in the Arcana chronicles.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=G5YV52ZVD5PJHLV3">You can change the time zone of your Kindle</a>, but I don’t think the books arrive any earlier.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Flame_and_the_Flower">The Flame and the Flower</a>&nbsp;was published in 1972. We will not do a read along of the book, but we will talk about its influence on the genre.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Julie Moody-Freeman, host of&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/black-romance-podcast/id1528266279">the Black Romance Podcast</a>, was a&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/9/24/s0307-an-interview-with-julie-moody-freeman-from-the-black-romance-podcat">guest on Fated Mates at the end of season two</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Here’s&nbsp;<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2009/06/22/real-romance-2">a New Yorker profile of Nora Roberts</a>&nbsp;from 2009, and a&nbsp;<a href="https://people.com/celebrity/danielle-steel-awarded-frances-legion-dhonneur/">People magazine story on Danielle Steel from 2014</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Many of romance's writers and editors have already passed. Two we mentioned:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/carolyn-nichols-editor-who-brought-a-feistiness-to-romance-heroines-dies-at-78/2017/11/01/2fae4dd0-be7a-11e7-959c-fe2b598d8c00_story.html">Carolyn Nichols, the original editor for Loveswept, died in 2017</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://ew.com/books/2019/12/23/johanna-lindsey-romance-novelist-dies/">legendary author Johanna Lindsey died in 2019.&nbsp;</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1427988814916632576?s=20">24 ounces is a lot of fluid</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Our first season four read-along will be&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3hyxdB7">Ravished by Amanda Quick</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/9/13/s0401-welcome-to-season-four]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:613f7b66dc6b9f3f62fae79e</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/5de7a295-289c-4e91-a5a1-3fc895b623f1/interstitial-logo-3000.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2021 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/7e72c5f6-c0d1-46f0-926a-d15625fb170a/s4-intro-final-revd.mp3" length="42904991" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>41:27</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>1</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Season Four starts today, you Magnificent Firebirds!

Season One gave us a full lAD deep dive (if you’ve never read Kresley Cole’s Immortals After Dark, general existential malaise is a really good reason to start), and Season Two gave us The Books That Blooded Us -- the books that made us the romance readers we are. Season Three was during a pandemic, so just let us live (but also, there was a Roy Kent episode)! 

Now, Season Four is here, and we have — dare we say — a plan?  We’re going to deep dive on books that are new and fabulous, old and transformative, and generally reveal how vast and magnificent the romance pool can get. We’ve got some great interstitials planned, including some fabulous, brilliant guests on deck…and when Munro is released, we’ll (obviously) drop everything and read with you!

But we’ve got something new and different to add to the mix — a collection of interviews with trailblazers of the genre—the people who have built the romance house over the last fifty years. We’re already blown away by who we have on deck, with many many more to come! Stick with us, it’s going to be a terrific ride. </itunes:summary></item><item><title>Fated Mates LIVE! Bombshell Launch Event</title><itunes:title>Fated Mates LIVE! Bombshell Launch Event</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We promised you fun stuff while we are on Hiatus, and here we are! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Last week, more than 700 of you joined us for a Fated Mates LIVE to celebrate Sarah’s new book, <em>Bombshell</em>! We had a great time talking to some of our favorite people, playing games, talking about thighsexuality, 19th Century surgery, and, of course, girl gangs in pop culture. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thanks to our faves: Andie J. Christopher, Kate Clayborn, Alexis Daria, Adriana Herrera, Sophie Jordan, Christina Lauren, Diana Quincy, Kennedy Ryan and Joanna Shupe for celebrating with us, and to <a href="https://www.northshire.com/event/crowdcast-launch-event-sarah-maclean-presents-bombshell" target="_blank">Northshire Bookstore</a>, <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/sarah-maclean-bombshell-tickets-164312600411" target="_blank">East City Bookshop</a>, <a href="https://www.katybooks.com/event/bombshell-virtual-launch" target="_blank">Katy Budget Books</a>, <a href="https://oldtownbooks.com/?q=p.sarah_maclean_s%20" target="_blank">Old Town Books</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.mystgalaxy.com/maclean82121" target="_blank">Mysterious Galaxy</a> for being fabulous independent bookstores that always support romance novels. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We’re starting Season 4 in two weeks…we hope this helps tide you over until then!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">For more from the event, check this <a href="https://twitter.com/FatedMates/status/1430501340489424904" target="">Twitter thread</a>. </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We promised you fun stuff while we are on Hiatus, and here we are! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Last week, more than 700 of you joined us for a Fated Mates LIVE to celebrate Sarah’s new book, <em>Bombshell</em>! We had a great time talking to some of our favorite people, playing games, talking about thighsexuality, 19th Century surgery, and, of course, girl gangs in pop culture. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thanks to our faves: Andie J. Christopher, Kate Clayborn, Alexis Daria, Adriana Herrera, Sophie Jordan, Christina Lauren, Diana Quincy, Kennedy Ryan and Joanna Shupe for celebrating with us, and to <a href="https://www.northshire.com/event/crowdcast-launch-event-sarah-maclean-presents-bombshell" target="_blank">Northshire Bookstore</a>, <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/sarah-maclean-bombshell-tickets-164312600411" target="_blank">East City Bookshop</a>, <a href="https://www.katybooks.com/event/bombshell-virtual-launch" target="_blank">Katy Budget Books</a>, <a href="https://oldtownbooks.com/?q=p.sarah_maclean_s%20" target="_blank">Old Town Books</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.mystgalaxy.com/maclean82121" target="_blank">Mysterious Galaxy</a> for being fabulous independent bookstores that always support romance novels. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We’re starting Season 4 in two weeks…we hope this helps tide you over until then!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">For more from the event, check this <a href="https://twitter.com/FatedMates/status/1430501340489424904" target="">Twitter thread</a>. </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/9/1/fated-mates-live-bombshell-launch-event]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:612f76c5df2d3e07bfc88292</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/59c46d82-d8b8-40fc-980f-d78787578829/fm-bombshell-ep.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2021 13:24:05 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/936dc444-e4de-4a50-b297-92360de0f35e/fated-mates-live-bombshell-launch.mp3" length="103401262" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:47:20</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>62</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>62</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We promised you fun stuff while we are on Hiatus, and here we are! 

Last week, more than 700 of you joined us for a Fated Mates LIVE to celebrate Sarah’s new book, Bombshell! We had a great time talking to some of our favorite people, playing games, talking about thighsexuality, 19th Century surgery, and, of course, girl gangs in pop culture. </itunes:summary></item><item><title>S03.54: Bombshell has Landed!</title><itunes:title>Bombshell has Landed!</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Sarah has a new book out, so Jen is playing host this week, and Sarah is playing guest, and Jen is really extremely good at it…so pour yourself a glass of whatever you’re drinking and get ready! And don’t miss the first two chapters of the Bombshell audiobook at the end of the episode! </p><p>If you haven’t purchased Bombshell yet, you can find it wherever books are sold, and at <a href="https://amzn.to/3aqVOU7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/bombshellmac" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/bombshellnook" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/bombshellkobo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063056152" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>.</p><p>This episode wraps up Season 3! Jen’s taking Lil’Romance to college, Sarah’s taking a break from social media, and we’ll be back in September with Season 4. Don’t worry, though, there will be a few little audio treats dropping on Wednesdays so you don’t miss us too much. (we will miss you, though. obviously.)</p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! Please follow us on your favorite podcasting app, and if you are up for leaving a rating or review there, we would be very grateful.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3j9HVPN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bombshell</a>&nbsp;is here! The audiobook is narrated by&nbsp;<a href="https://www.maryjanewells.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mary Jane Wells</a>, and she’s one of Jen’s favorite narrators.&nbsp;</li><li>Maybe you want to&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/KnI9MBbPCT8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">watch the Amazons fighting in the Wonder Woman movie,</a>&nbsp;just for vibes.&nbsp;</li><li>The Soiled S’s are the five Talbot sisters: Seraphina, Sesily, Seleste, Seline, and Sophie.&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3B7IVKj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Seraphina</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3knDHUm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sophie</a>&nbsp;each had their own books, and Seleste and Seline were married in the background of the series.&nbsp;</li><li>A&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_(screenwriting)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">series bible</a>&nbsp;is used by writers as a reference document for the world they’ve made.&nbsp;</li><li>Some of our favorite movies with a crew and/or a heist movies: The A-Team, Ocean’s Eight, and the Avengers.</li><li>The first of Louisa Edward’s chef romances is called&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3mu1OmK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Can’t Stand the Heat</em>.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.history.com/news/5-things-you-may-not-know-about-queen-victoria" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Queen Victoria</a>&nbsp;was on the throne from 1837-1901, and here is an overview of&nbsp;<a href="http://victorian-era.org/characteristics-of-the-victorian-era.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the hallmarks of her reign</a>&nbsp;and what it was like for&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_the_Victorian_era" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">women during that era</a>.</li><li>Here’s a&nbsp;<a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/a-brief-history-of-scotland-yard-172669755/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">brief history of Scotland Yard</a>.</li><li>The word&nbsp;<a href="https://www.oed.com/view/Entry/21226" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bombshell dates back to 1708</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/8/21/s0354-bombshell </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah has a new book out, so Jen is playing host this week, and Sarah is playing guest, and Jen is really extremely good at it…so pour yourself a glass of whatever you’re drinking and get ready! And don’t miss the first two chapters of the Bombshell audiobook at the end of the episode! </p><p>If you haven’t purchased Bombshell yet, you can find it wherever books are sold, and at <a href="https://amzn.to/3aqVOU7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/bombshellmac" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/bombshellnook" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/bombshellkobo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063056152" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>.</p><p>This episode wraps up Season 3! Jen’s taking Lil’Romance to college, Sarah’s taking a break from social media, and we’ll be back in September with Season 4. Don’t worry, though, there will be a few little audio treats dropping on Wednesdays so you don’t miss us too much. (we will miss you, though. obviously.)</p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! Please follow us on your favorite podcasting app, and if you are up for leaving a rating or review there, we would be very grateful.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3j9HVPN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bombshell</a>&nbsp;is here! The audiobook is narrated by&nbsp;<a href="https://www.maryjanewells.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mary Jane Wells</a>, and she’s one of Jen’s favorite narrators.&nbsp;</li><li>Maybe you want to&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/KnI9MBbPCT8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">watch the Amazons fighting in the Wonder Woman movie,</a>&nbsp;just for vibes.&nbsp;</li><li>The Soiled S’s are the five Talbot sisters: Seraphina, Sesily, Seleste, Seline, and Sophie.&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3B7IVKj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Seraphina</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3knDHUm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sophie</a>&nbsp;each had their own books, and Seleste and Seline were married in the background of the series.&nbsp;</li><li>A&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_(screenwriting)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">series bible</a>&nbsp;is used by writers as a reference document for the world they’ve made.&nbsp;</li><li>Some of our favorite movies with a crew and/or a heist movies: The A-Team, Ocean’s Eight, and the Avengers.</li><li>The first of Louisa Edward’s chef romances is called&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3mu1OmK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Can’t Stand the Heat</em>.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.history.com/news/5-things-you-may-not-know-about-queen-victoria" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Queen Victoria</a>&nbsp;was on the throne from 1837-1901, and here is an overview of&nbsp;<a href="http://victorian-era.org/characteristics-of-the-victorian-era.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the hallmarks of her reign</a>&nbsp;and what it was like for&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_the_Victorian_era" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">women during that era</a>.</li><li>Here’s a&nbsp;<a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/a-brief-history-of-scotland-yard-172669755/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">brief history of Scotland Yard</a>.</li><li>The word&nbsp;<a href="https://www.oed.com/view/Entry/21226" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bombshell dates back to 1708</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/8/21/s0354-bombshell </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/8/21/s0354-bombshell]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:6121a4a0597e8b6a0deacf36</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/06879bba-6fcb-4375-b903-7144ae9801fa/fm-bombshell-ep.jpeg"/><pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2021 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/ecf7f031-a365-40a8-b101-07d808c54de4/bombshell-revc.mp3" length="88646802" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:25:40</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>61</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>61</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Sarah has a new book out, so Jen is playing host this week, and Sarah is playing guest, and Jen is really extremely good at it…so pour yourself a glass of whatever you’re drinking and get ready! And don’t miss the first two chapters of the Bombshell audiobook at the end of the episode!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-ecf7f031-a365-40a8-b101-07d808c54de4.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S03.53: Sports Romance with Farrah Rochon</title><itunes:title>Sports Romance with Farrah Rochon</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Today we’re joined by Farrah Rochon, author of<em> The Dating Playbook</em>, to talk sports romances! We talked sports way back in season 1 (links below), but this is one of those tropes we’re always happy to dig into! We get to the bottom of Farrah’s love of football, we talk about competence porn and the human body as a superior tool, and we recommend a LOT of B O O K S! </p><p>Don’t miss Fated Mates LIVE! to celebrate the release of Sarah’s next book, BOMBSHELL! Join us and some of our very favorite people on August 24th! Tickets are a copy of the book, and available at five participating romance friendly bookstores. <a href="https://a.pgtb.me/NLBJRC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Get them here</a>! </p><p>NEXT WEEK IS BOMBSHELL WEEK! Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3aqVOU7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/bombshellmac" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/bombshellnook" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/bombshellkobo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063056152" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>, or at one of the participating romance-friendly bookstores hosting the <a href="https://a.pgtb.me/NLBJRC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates Live/Virtual Bombshell Launch</a>! Orders will come with a Fated Mates Sticker! </p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! Please follow us on your favorite podcasting app, and if you are up for leaving a rating or review there, we would be very grateful.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome&nbsp;<a href="https://www.farrahrochon.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Farrah Rochon</a>! Her newest book,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3m7nBAA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Dating Playbook</a>&nbsp;just came out yesterday. She has another football series,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3CRHIZs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the New York Sabres.</a></li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://olympics.com/en/beijing-2022/schedule/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2022 Winter Olympics in Beijing</a>&nbsp;begin on February 4th, 2022.&nbsp;</li><li>Here’s&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/UKFvZSBViUE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">an explainer for dressage</a>, an Olympic equestrian event.&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/NBCOlympics/status/1421347563232497664?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The horse at the club dressage video on twitter</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/L5cadOL2ucw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Snoop Dogg and Kevin Hart watching the same video</a>.</li><li>The 1984 category romance about a woman competing in Equestrian events at the Olympics was originally called&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3xTNjuK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Summer Games&nbsp;</a>and later changed to&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3xVcPzN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Remember Summer (which is available as an eBook),</a>&nbsp;and it was by Elizabeth Lowell not Iris Johansen.</li><li><a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/olympics/2021/07/30/how-do-olympic-horses-travel-2021-tokyo-games/5428196001/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">How the horses travel to Tokyo</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/slick-science-making-olympic-snow-and-ice-180968014/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">how the ice is made</a>, and other articles about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vox.com/22584397/tokyo-olympics-2020-new-sports-surfing-skateboarding-baseball-softball-karate-sport-climbing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">new sports at this year’s Olympics</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://thebridge.in/tokyo-2020/danish-skateboarder-rune-glifberg-oldest-debutant-tokyo-olympics-23509" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">All about Rune</a>, the&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/oyezIY3shmo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Danish Destroyer</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/4/1/105-fake-engagement-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">In season one, we did a fake engagement interstitial</a>, but it’s a&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/blog/show/2009-10-romances-to-try-if-you-love-the-fake-dating-trope" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">very popular trope in 2021</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://usatodayhss.com/2014/11-reasons-texas-is-the-high-school-football-capital-of-the-world" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Texas football culture is legendary</a>, just look at some&nbsp;<a href="https://www.houstonchronicle.com/sports/highschool/article/Most-expensive-high-school-football-stadiums-Texas-13145194.php" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Texas high school football stadiums</a>, including the one in Katy. If you’re ever in Katy, we highly recommend a trip to&nbsp;<a href="https://www.katybooks.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Katy Budget Books</a>.</li><li>You might be interested in this article with&nbsp;<a href="https://sport-net.org/what-is-the-average-length-of-career-in-each-league/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">statistics breaking down the average age of professional athletes by sport</a>, and this&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oldest_professional_athletes_by_sport" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">list of oldest professional athletes by sport</a>. The question of which Olympics sports have&nbsp;<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/olympics/2021/07/31/oldest-youngest-olympians/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the oldest and youngest athletes</a>&nbsp;is always a fascinating one. This year, the youngest athletes were 12: Syrian tennis table player Hend Zaza and Japanese skateboarder Kokona Hiraki. The oldest athlete is Australian equestrian Mary Hanna, who is 66.</li><li>We interviewed&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/7/6/s0346-susan-elizabeth-phillips" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Susan Elizabeth Phillips</a>&nbsp;and also did a deep dive on the third book in the Chicago Stars series,&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/3/30/s0230-nobodys-baby-but-mine-by-susan-elizabeth-phillips-" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nobody’s Baby But Mine</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Pitch was&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitch_(TV_series)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a Fox show</a>&nbsp;that was cancelled before its time.&nbsp;</li><li>It turns out there are two real life ex-NFL players, Brian Orakpo and Michale Griffin who opened Gigi’s Cupcake shop in Texas. So&nbsp;<a href="https://www.espn.com/blog/tennessee-titans/post/_/id/25994/how-two-nfl-players-sweet-tooths-made-them-hands-on-business-owners" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">just read this article over and over again</a>&nbsp;until we get all the deets on&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/Jamie_Wesley" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jamie Wesley</a>’s forthcoming series.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/8/17/s0353-sports-romance-interstitial-with-farrah-rochon </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today we’re joined by Farrah Rochon, author of<em> The Dating Playbook</em>, to talk sports romances! We talked sports way back in season 1 (links below), but this is one of those tropes we’re always happy to dig into! We get to the bottom of Farrah’s love of football, we talk about competence porn and the human body as a superior tool, and we recommend a LOT of B O O K S! </p><p>Don’t miss Fated Mates LIVE! to celebrate the release of Sarah’s next book, BOMBSHELL! Join us and some of our very favorite people on August 24th! Tickets are a copy of the book, and available at five participating romance friendly bookstores. <a href="https://a.pgtb.me/NLBJRC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Get them here</a>! </p><p>NEXT WEEK IS BOMBSHELL WEEK! Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3aqVOU7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/bombshellmac" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/bombshellnook" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/bombshellkobo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063056152" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>, or at one of the participating romance-friendly bookstores hosting the <a href="https://a.pgtb.me/NLBJRC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates Live/Virtual Bombshell Launch</a>! Orders will come with a Fated Mates Sticker! </p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! Please follow us on your favorite podcasting app, and if you are up for leaving a rating or review there, we would be very grateful.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome&nbsp;<a href="https://www.farrahrochon.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Farrah Rochon</a>! Her newest book,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3m7nBAA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Dating Playbook</a>&nbsp;just came out yesterday. She has another football series,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3CRHIZs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the New York Sabres.</a></li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://olympics.com/en/beijing-2022/schedule/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2022 Winter Olympics in Beijing</a>&nbsp;begin on February 4th, 2022.&nbsp;</li><li>Here’s&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/UKFvZSBViUE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">an explainer for dressage</a>, an Olympic equestrian event.&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/NBCOlympics/status/1421347563232497664?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The horse at the club dressage video on twitter</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/L5cadOL2ucw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Snoop Dogg and Kevin Hart watching the same video</a>.</li><li>The 1984 category romance about a woman competing in Equestrian events at the Olympics was originally called&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3xTNjuK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Summer Games&nbsp;</a>and later changed to&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3xVcPzN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Remember Summer (which is available as an eBook),</a>&nbsp;and it was by Elizabeth Lowell not Iris Johansen.</li><li><a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/olympics/2021/07/30/how-do-olympic-horses-travel-2021-tokyo-games/5428196001/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">How the horses travel to Tokyo</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/slick-science-making-olympic-snow-and-ice-180968014/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">how the ice is made</a>, and other articles about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vox.com/22584397/tokyo-olympics-2020-new-sports-surfing-skateboarding-baseball-softball-karate-sport-climbing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">new sports at this year’s Olympics</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://thebridge.in/tokyo-2020/danish-skateboarder-rune-glifberg-oldest-debutant-tokyo-olympics-23509" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">All about Rune</a>, the&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/oyezIY3shmo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Danish Destroyer</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/4/1/105-fake-engagement-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">In season one, we did a fake engagement interstitial</a>, but it’s a&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/blog/show/2009-10-romances-to-try-if-you-love-the-fake-dating-trope" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">very popular trope in 2021</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://usatodayhss.com/2014/11-reasons-texas-is-the-high-school-football-capital-of-the-world" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Texas football culture is legendary</a>, just look at some&nbsp;<a href="https://www.houstonchronicle.com/sports/highschool/article/Most-expensive-high-school-football-stadiums-Texas-13145194.php" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Texas high school football stadiums</a>, including the one in Katy. If you’re ever in Katy, we highly recommend a trip to&nbsp;<a href="https://www.katybooks.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Katy Budget Books</a>.</li><li>You might be interested in this article with&nbsp;<a href="https://sport-net.org/what-is-the-average-length-of-career-in-each-league/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">statistics breaking down the average age of professional athletes by sport</a>, and this&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oldest_professional_athletes_by_sport" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">list of oldest professional athletes by sport</a>. The question of which Olympics sports have&nbsp;<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/olympics/2021/07/31/oldest-youngest-olympians/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the oldest and youngest athletes</a>&nbsp;is always a fascinating one. This year, the youngest athletes were 12: Syrian tennis table player Hend Zaza and Japanese skateboarder Kokona Hiraki. The oldest athlete is Australian equestrian Mary Hanna, who is 66.</li><li>We interviewed&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/7/6/s0346-susan-elizabeth-phillips" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Susan Elizabeth Phillips</a>&nbsp;and also did a deep dive on the third book in the Chicago Stars series,&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/3/30/s0230-nobodys-baby-but-mine-by-susan-elizabeth-phillips-" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nobody’s Baby But Mine</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Pitch was&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitch_(TV_series)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a Fox show</a>&nbsp;that was cancelled before its time.&nbsp;</li><li>It turns out there are two real life ex-NFL players, Brian Orakpo and Michale Griffin who opened Gigi’s Cupcake shop in Texas. So&nbsp;<a href="https://www.espn.com/blog/tennessee-titans/post/_/id/25994/how-two-nfl-players-sweet-tooths-made-them-hands-on-business-owners" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">just read this article over and over again</a>&nbsp;until we get all the deets on&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/Jamie_Wesley" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jamie Wesley</a>’s forthcoming series.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/8/17/s0353-sports-romance-interstitial-with-farrah-rochon </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/8/17/s0353-sports-romance-interstitial-with-farrah-rochon]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:611ba1c17b57ac071b60bc10</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2021 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/6969b437-ab4e-4ec1-86b8-4600a0b2ade9/fated-mates-sports-romance-final-revb.mp3" length="65419834" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:03:57</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>60</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>60</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Today we’re joined by Farrah Rochon, author of The Dating Playbook, to talk sports romances! We talked sports way back in season 1 (links below), but this is one of those tropes we’re always happy to dig into! We get to the bottom of Farrah’s love of football, we talk about competence porn and the human body as a superior tool, and we recommend a LOT of B O O K S!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-6969b437-ab4e-4ec1-86b8-4600a0b2ade9.json" type="application/json+chapters"/><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="video/youtube" title="S03.53: Sports Romance with Farrah Rochon"><podcast:source uri="https://youtu.be/93i1-r4JLCw"/></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>S03.52: Assassins and Hitmen in Romance</title><itunes:title>Assassins and Hitmen in Romance</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Surprising absolutely no one, we love an assassin here at Fated Mates! We basically love any character who has been through the wringer and also can kill a man fourteen different ways before dinner. Even better if it’s a heroine, and she’s been hired to kill the hero (or vice versa). Anyway, we’re talking about why these books (and so! many! movies!) scratch that particular itch for us. Spoiler: It’s beautiful people blowing things up, obvi.</p><p>Don’t miss Fated Mates LIVE! to celebrate the release of Sarah’s next book, BOMBSHELL! Join us and some of our very favorite people on August 24th! Tickets are a copy of the book, and available at five participating romance friendly bookstores. <a href="https://a.pgtb.me/NLBJRC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Get them here</a>! </p><p>Speaking of BOMBSHELL, it is our next read along! Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3aqVOU7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/bombshellmac" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/bombshellnook" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/bombshellkobo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063056152" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>, or at one of the participating romance-friendly bookstores hosting the <a href="https://a.pgtb.me/NLBJRC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates Live/Virtual Bombshell Launch</a>! Orders will come with a Fated Mates Sticker! </p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! Please follow us on your favorite podcasting app, and if you are up for leaving a rating or review there, we would be very grateful.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>The game&nbsp;<a href="https://www.windowscentral.com/assassins-creed-story-so-far" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Assassin’s Creed</a>&nbsp;first came out in 2007, and now there are&nbsp;<a href="https://collider.com/assassins-creed-timeline-explained/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">so many different versions</a>, and in many of them, you can&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nationalcrimesyndicate.com/what-is-a-garrote-wire-used-for/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">garrote</a>&nbsp;someone if you are so moved. Sarah's favorite is&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassin%27s_Creed_Syndicate" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Assassin's Creed Syndicate</a>, which is set in Victorian London.</li><li>We mentioned so many movies and TV shows with assassins:&nbsp;<a href="https://overmental.com/content/world-assassins-expanding-john-wick-universe-45904" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">John Wick</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bourne_Identity_(2002_film)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Bourne Identity</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunpowder_Milkshake" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gunpowder Milkshake</a>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.thewrap.com/gunpowder-milkshake-every-random-object-karen-gillan-used-as-a-weapon/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">and its many weapons</a>),&nbsp;<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0288831/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Suicide Blonde</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/crouching-tiger-hidden-dragon-2000" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kill_Bill:_Volume_1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kill Bill</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._%26_Mrs._Smith_(2005_film)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mr. and Mrs. Smith</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_James_Bond_films" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">James Bond</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bustle.com/entertainment/red-room-black-widow" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Widow</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Femme_Nikita_(film)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Le Femme Nikita</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Saint_(1997_film)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Saint</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/-N3-AVJNueY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Grosse Pointe Blank</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desperado_(film)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Desperado</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Witcher_(TV_series)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Witcher</a>.</li><li>More about&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/49oCV2y_0Xw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">some of</a>&nbsp;the&nbsp;<a href="https://apnews.com/article/2020-tokyo-olympics-technology-sports-2e6661a4942029f941316349c0e3ef6f" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">super camera angles</a>&nbsp;we&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/64CJQ1SZ_Qs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">are seeing</a>&nbsp;at&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/DKi_xrkV_kY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Tokyo Olympics</a>.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3iysSii" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jack Reacher&nbsp;</a>isn’t as assassin as much as he’s a vigilante.&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1295741767220944900?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Also, he doesn’t know how to use a washing machine.&nbsp;</a></li><li>Rege-Jean Page signed up to make&nbsp;<a href="https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/rege-jean-page-the-saint-movie-1234988363/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a remake of The Saint</a>, and Donald Glover and Phoebe Waller-Bridge are&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theverge.com/2021/2/13/22281597/phoebe-waller-bridge-donald-glover-amazon-mr-and-mrs-smith-series" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">remaking Mr. and Mrs. Smith</a>, and we’re not sad about any of it.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/rMz7JBRbmNo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Iocane powder</a>&nbsp;is from The Princess Bride, of course.&nbsp;</li><li>Listen when you read&nbsp;<em>Sweet Ruin</em>&nbsp;you'll definitely want to go back to season 1 and&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/27/16-sweet-ruin" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">listen to our deep dive epsiode</a>. Because it is great.&nbsp;</li><li>We also talked a bunch about romances with paid killers in the&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/5/31/s0341-spy-romance-interstitial-with-nana-malone" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spy Romance</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/10/13/s0310-mafia-romance-interstitial-with-nisha-sharma" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mafia Romance</a>interstitials.</li><li>As Jen was working on show notes, she discovered&nbsp;<a href="https://www.salon.com/2019/12/03/william-levy-en-brazos-de-un-asesino-interview/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the book Killing Sarai was adapted into a Spanish language action movie called “En Brazos de un Asesino,”</a>&nbsp;which translates to “In the Arms of an Assassin.” You can stream it on any number of services, including Amazon Prime Video.</li><li>Check out all the programming for&nbsp;<a href="https://bookstoreromanceday.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookstore Romance Day</a>, August 21-22, 2021.&nbsp;</li><li>We are having a live episode of Fated Mates to celebrate the launch of Bombshell on August 24th at 7 eastern, to get a ticket, you'll need to buy a copy from one of these indie bookstores. (If you already pre-ordered from WORD in Brooklyn, you'll get log in details in an email.)</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/8/10/s0352-assassins-and-hitmen-in-romance-interstitialt </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surprising absolutely no one, we love an assassin here at Fated Mates! We basically love any character who has been through the wringer and also can kill a man fourteen different ways before dinner. Even better if it’s a heroine, and she’s been hired to kill the hero (or vice versa). Anyway, we’re talking about why these books (and so! many! movies!) scratch that particular itch for us. Spoiler: It’s beautiful people blowing things up, obvi.</p><p>Don’t miss Fated Mates LIVE! to celebrate the release of Sarah’s next book, BOMBSHELL! Join us and some of our very favorite people on August 24th! Tickets are a copy of the book, and available at five participating romance friendly bookstores. <a href="https://a.pgtb.me/NLBJRC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Get them here</a>! </p><p>Speaking of BOMBSHELL, it is our next read along! Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3aqVOU7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/bombshellmac" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/bombshellnook" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/bombshellkobo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063056152" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>, or at one of the participating romance-friendly bookstores hosting the <a href="https://a.pgtb.me/NLBJRC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates Live/Virtual Bombshell Launch</a>! Orders will come with a Fated Mates Sticker! </p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! Please follow us on your favorite podcasting app, and if you are up for leaving a rating or review there, we would be very grateful.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>The game&nbsp;<a href="https://www.windowscentral.com/assassins-creed-story-so-far" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Assassin’s Creed</a>&nbsp;first came out in 2007, and now there are&nbsp;<a href="https://collider.com/assassins-creed-timeline-explained/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">so many different versions</a>, and in many of them, you can&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nationalcrimesyndicate.com/what-is-a-garrote-wire-used-for/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">garrote</a>&nbsp;someone if you are so moved. Sarah's favorite is&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassin%27s_Creed_Syndicate" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Assassin's Creed Syndicate</a>, which is set in Victorian London.</li><li>We mentioned so many movies and TV shows with assassins:&nbsp;<a href="https://overmental.com/content/world-assassins-expanding-john-wick-universe-45904" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">John Wick</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bourne_Identity_(2002_film)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Bourne Identity</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunpowder_Milkshake" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gunpowder Milkshake</a>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.thewrap.com/gunpowder-milkshake-every-random-object-karen-gillan-used-as-a-weapon/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">and its many weapons</a>),&nbsp;<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0288831/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Suicide Blonde</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/crouching-tiger-hidden-dragon-2000" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kill_Bill:_Volume_1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kill Bill</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._%26_Mrs._Smith_(2005_film)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mr. and Mrs. Smith</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_James_Bond_films" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">James Bond</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bustle.com/entertainment/red-room-black-widow" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Widow</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Femme_Nikita_(film)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Le Femme Nikita</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Saint_(1997_film)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Saint</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/-N3-AVJNueY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Grosse Pointe Blank</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desperado_(film)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Desperado</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Witcher_(TV_series)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Witcher</a>.</li><li>More about&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/49oCV2y_0Xw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">some of</a>&nbsp;the&nbsp;<a href="https://apnews.com/article/2020-tokyo-olympics-technology-sports-2e6661a4942029f941316349c0e3ef6f" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">super camera angles</a>&nbsp;we&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/64CJQ1SZ_Qs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">are seeing</a>&nbsp;at&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/DKi_xrkV_kY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Tokyo Olympics</a>.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3iysSii" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jack Reacher&nbsp;</a>isn’t as assassin as much as he’s a vigilante.&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1295741767220944900?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Also, he doesn’t know how to use a washing machine.&nbsp;</a></li><li>Rege-Jean Page signed up to make&nbsp;<a href="https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/rege-jean-page-the-saint-movie-1234988363/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a remake of The Saint</a>, and Donald Glover and Phoebe Waller-Bridge are&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theverge.com/2021/2/13/22281597/phoebe-waller-bridge-donald-glover-amazon-mr-and-mrs-smith-series" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">remaking Mr. and Mrs. Smith</a>, and we’re not sad about any of it.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/rMz7JBRbmNo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Iocane powder</a>&nbsp;is from The Princess Bride, of course.&nbsp;</li><li>Listen when you read&nbsp;<em>Sweet Ruin</em>&nbsp;you'll definitely want to go back to season 1 and&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/27/16-sweet-ruin" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">listen to our deep dive epsiode</a>. Because it is great.&nbsp;</li><li>We also talked a bunch about romances with paid killers in the&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/5/31/s0341-spy-romance-interstitial-with-nana-malone" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spy Romance</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/10/13/s0310-mafia-romance-interstitial-with-nisha-sharma" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mafia Romance</a>interstitials.</li><li>As Jen was working on show notes, she discovered&nbsp;<a href="https://www.salon.com/2019/12/03/william-levy-en-brazos-de-un-asesino-interview/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the book Killing Sarai was adapted into a Spanish language action movie called “En Brazos de un Asesino,”</a>&nbsp;which translates to “In the Arms of an Assassin.” You can stream it on any number of services, including Amazon Prime Video.</li><li>Check out all the programming for&nbsp;<a href="https://bookstoreromanceday.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookstore Romance Day</a>, August 21-22, 2021.&nbsp;</li><li>We are having a live episode of Fated Mates to celebrate the launch of Bombshell on August 24th at 7 eastern, to get a ticket, you'll need to buy a copy from one of these indie bookstores. (If you already pre-ordered from WORD in Brooklyn, you'll get log in details in an email.)</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/8/10/s0352-assassins-and-hitmen-in-romance-interstitialt </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/8/10/s0352-assassins-and-hitmen-in-romance-interstitialt]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:6112ffc36fdf39727e86cde4</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2021 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/f6bdbe46-35d1-4d30-ac3a-26fed41a268e/fated-mates-assassins-reva.mp3" length="68810193" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:07:08</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>59</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>59</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Surprising absolutely no one, we love an assassin here at Fated Mates! We basically love any character who has been through the wringer and also can kill a man fourteen different ways before dinner. Even better if it’s a heroine, and she’s been hired to kill the hero (or vice versa). Anyway, we’re talking about why these books (and so! many! movies!) scratch that particular itch for us. Spoiler: It’s beautiful people blowing things up, obvi.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-f6bdbe46-35d1-4d30-ac3a-26fed41a268e.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S03.51: Mistresses, Courtesans, and Cheating in Romance with Adriana Herrera</title><itunes:title>Mistresses, Courtesans, and Cheating in Romance Interstitial with Adriana Herrera</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Adriana Herrera, a FIVE-TIMER, joins us this week to talk about the third-rail of romance…infidelity! We’re talking about cheating, and about all the other bits related to it: mistresses, courtesans, illegitimate children, sex work…and get your pencils ready because (of course) we’re toppling TBRs with this one. </p><p>Don’t miss Fated Mates LIVE! to celebrate the release of Sarah’s next book, BOMBSHELL! Join us and some of our very favorite people on August 24th! Tickets are a copy of the book, and available at five participating romance friendly bookstores. <a href="https://a.pgtb.me/NLBJRC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Get them here</a>! </p><p>Speaking of BOMBSHELL, it is our next read along! Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3aqVOU7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/bombshellmac" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/bombshellnook" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/bombshellkobo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063056152" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>, or at one of the participating romance-friendly bookstores hosting the <a href="https://a.pgtb.me/NLBJRC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates Live/Virtual Bombshell Launch</a>! Orders will come with a Fated Mates Sticker! </p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! Please follow us on your favorite podcasting app, and if you are up for leaving a rating or review there, we would be very grateful.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome to five-timer&nbsp;<a href="https://adrianaherreraromance.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adriana Herrera</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.indiewire.com/2012/08/heroines-of-cinema-rizzo-from-grease-45406/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">our very own Rizzo</a>, and her Pink Lady jacket is on the way. PS. It was only in working on these show notes that Jen realized that Rizzo’s first name is Betty.&nbsp;</li><li>The phrase&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/79124.MF_only_Romance_safe_from_triangles_cheating_of_any_kind_between_hero_and_heroine_emotional_or_physical_" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“safe romance”</a>&nbsp;is used in online spaces to describe books without a single molecule of infidelity energy.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.insider.com/cheating-myths-might-not-be-true-2018-10" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Infidelity</a>&nbsp;in&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/3/26/17164268/stormy-daniels-donald-trump-bible-christian" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">evangelical christianity</a>&nbsp;(and everywhere, honestly) often places the blame on the wife if her husband strays and also on&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="https://medium.com/heart-affairs/how-being-a-mistress-changed-my-perception-of-marriage-510865415782" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“the evil other woman”</a>&nbsp;--&nbsp;<a href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-myths-sex/201907/when-women-get-blamed-mens-infidelity" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">in this model, you know who’s not to blame? Men.</a>And that’s pure patriarchy.&nbsp;</li><li>Lavender wasn’t invented because it’s a plant and&nbsp;<a href="http://www.lavendersense.com/index.php/Lavender/Index#:~:text=The%20origin%20of%20Lavender%20is,fragrance%20and%20its%20multiple%20uses.&amp;text=Lavender%20derives%20its%20name%20from,'%20meaning%20'to%20wash%E2%80%9D." rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">its known history dates back 2500 years.&nbsp;</a></li><li>Courtesan culture was inextricably tied to colonialism&nbsp;<a href="https://qz.com/india/1077360/a-search-for-old-delhis-courtesans-reveals-a-present-thats-not-always-comfortable-with-the-past/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">in India</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://history.msu.edu/files/2010/04/Gail-Hershatter.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">in China</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2009/03/sex-shops-in-colonial-america.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">in the USA</a>.</li><li>Summer Brennan’s patreon about The Book of Courtesans. Hallie Rubenhold's&nbsp;<em>Covent Garden Ladies</em>, which is the book that inspired the Hulu TV show&nbsp;<a href="https://www.hulu.com/series/harlots-18edbd1f-3e9f-46a0-8dc4-02ff7b1eef63?cmp=7735&amp;gclid=CjwKCAjw0qOIBhBhEiwAyvVcfzzt1dmGvhSqDAP3NiEiq68FGJND3sjSkJu67a5-V8rptLZAA0-EMBoCO7YQAvD_BwE&amp;gclsrc=aw.ds&amp;utm_campaign=CM%20Search%20Harlots&amp;utm_medium=cpc&amp;utm_source=google&amp;utm_term=harlots" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Harlots</em></a>, is about&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harris%27s_List_of_Covent_Garden_Ladies" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Harris's List</a>&nbsp;of London "working girls."&nbsp;</li><li>The Spanish word for wife is&nbsp;<em>esposa</em>, which means handcuffs or manacles, while the word for mistress is&nbsp;<em>amante</em>, which means beloved.</li><li>We have had some deep dive episodes where there is infidelity:&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/2/11/s0223-waking-up-with-the-duke" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Waking Up with the Duke by Lorraine Heath</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/5/9/s0338-ravishing-the-heiress-by-sherry-thomas" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ravishing the Heiress by Sherry Thomas</a></li><li>There are so many&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/genres/historical-romance-heroine-bastard" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bastards in historical romance</a>, partly because it’s an easy on-ramp for&nbsp;<a href="https://teatimeromance.wordpress.com/2012/10/11/you-bastard-illegitimacy-during-the-regency/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">creating a character who is an outsider.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.refinery29.com/en-gb/2021/05/10484804/benefits-of-ethical-non-monogamy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ethical non-monogamy</a>&nbsp;is the practice of talking to your partner(s) about the boundaries of your relationship.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/325880" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Polyamorous</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thecouplescenter.org/better-understanding-open-relationships-and-non-monogamy/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Open relationships</a>&nbsp;would fall into this category.&nbsp;</li><li>On&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/ItsMaryse" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Maryse’s Book Blog</a>, there was&nbsp;<a href="https://www.maryse.net/books/book-recommendations/cheating-book-list.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a 2015 post about cheating in romance</a>, and most of the titles are self-published and indie.</li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/tv/CPJ_LhND3uC/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah talked about Lorenzo Lamas and Dynasty</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/tv/CQcX2zxo9kL/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen and her brother Mike talked about Santa Barbara</a>on Adriana’s Instagram Live conversations about telenovelas and soap operas.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://a.pgtb.me/NLBJRC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">We are having a live episode of Fated Mates to celebrate the launch of Bombshell on August 24th at 7 eastern</a>, to get a ticket, you'll need to buy a copy from one of these indie bookstores. (If you already pre-ordered from WORD in Brooklyn, you'll get log in details in an email.)&nbsp;</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/8/1/s0351-mistresses-courtesans-and-cheating-in-romance-interstitial-with-adriana-herrera </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adriana Herrera, a FIVE-TIMER, joins us this week to talk about the third-rail of romance…infidelity! We’re talking about cheating, and about all the other bits related to it: mistresses, courtesans, illegitimate children, sex work…and get your pencils ready because (of course) we’re toppling TBRs with this one. </p><p>Don’t miss Fated Mates LIVE! to celebrate the release of Sarah’s next book, BOMBSHELL! Join us and some of our very favorite people on August 24th! Tickets are a copy of the book, and available at five participating romance friendly bookstores. <a href="https://a.pgtb.me/NLBJRC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Get them here</a>! </p><p>Speaking of BOMBSHELL, it is our next read along! Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3aqVOU7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/bombshellmac" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/bombshellnook" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/bombshellkobo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063056152" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>, or at one of the participating romance-friendly bookstores hosting the <a href="https://a.pgtb.me/NLBJRC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates Live/Virtual Bombshell Launch</a>! Orders will come with a Fated Mates Sticker! </p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! Please follow us on your favorite podcasting app, and if you are up for leaving a rating or review there, we would be very grateful.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome to five-timer&nbsp;<a href="https://adrianaherreraromance.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adriana Herrera</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.indiewire.com/2012/08/heroines-of-cinema-rizzo-from-grease-45406/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">our very own Rizzo</a>, and her Pink Lady jacket is on the way. PS. It was only in working on these show notes that Jen realized that Rizzo’s first name is Betty.&nbsp;</li><li>The phrase&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/79124.MF_only_Romance_safe_from_triangles_cheating_of_any_kind_between_hero_and_heroine_emotional_or_physical_" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“safe romance”</a>&nbsp;is used in online spaces to describe books without a single molecule of infidelity energy.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.insider.com/cheating-myths-might-not-be-true-2018-10" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Infidelity</a>&nbsp;in&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/3/26/17164268/stormy-daniels-donald-trump-bible-christian" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">evangelical christianity</a>&nbsp;(and everywhere, honestly) often places the blame on the wife if her husband strays and also on&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="https://medium.com/heart-affairs/how-being-a-mistress-changed-my-perception-of-marriage-510865415782" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“the evil other woman”</a>&nbsp;--&nbsp;<a href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-myths-sex/201907/when-women-get-blamed-mens-infidelity" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">in this model, you know who’s not to blame? Men.</a>And that’s pure patriarchy.&nbsp;</li><li>Lavender wasn’t invented because it’s a plant and&nbsp;<a href="http://www.lavendersense.com/index.php/Lavender/Index#:~:text=The%20origin%20of%20Lavender%20is,fragrance%20and%20its%20multiple%20uses.&amp;text=Lavender%20derives%20its%20name%20from,'%20meaning%20'to%20wash%E2%80%9D." rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">its known history dates back 2500 years.&nbsp;</a></li><li>Courtesan culture was inextricably tied to colonialism&nbsp;<a href="https://qz.com/india/1077360/a-search-for-old-delhis-courtesans-reveals-a-present-thats-not-always-comfortable-with-the-past/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">in India</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://history.msu.edu/files/2010/04/Gail-Hershatter.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">in China</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2009/03/sex-shops-in-colonial-america.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">in the USA</a>.</li><li>Summer Brennan’s patreon about The Book of Courtesans. Hallie Rubenhold's&nbsp;<em>Covent Garden Ladies</em>, which is the book that inspired the Hulu TV show&nbsp;<a href="https://www.hulu.com/series/harlots-18edbd1f-3e9f-46a0-8dc4-02ff7b1eef63?cmp=7735&amp;gclid=CjwKCAjw0qOIBhBhEiwAyvVcfzzt1dmGvhSqDAP3NiEiq68FGJND3sjSkJu67a5-V8rptLZAA0-EMBoCO7YQAvD_BwE&amp;gclsrc=aw.ds&amp;utm_campaign=CM%20Search%20Harlots&amp;utm_medium=cpc&amp;utm_source=google&amp;utm_term=harlots" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Harlots</em></a>, is about&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harris%27s_List_of_Covent_Garden_Ladies" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Harris's List</a>&nbsp;of London "working girls."&nbsp;</li><li>The Spanish word for wife is&nbsp;<em>esposa</em>, which means handcuffs or manacles, while the word for mistress is&nbsp;<em>amante</em>, which means beloved.</li><li>We have had some deep dive episodes where there is infidelity:&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/2/11/s0223-waking-up-with-the-duke" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Waking Up with the Duke by Lorraine Heath</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/5/9/s0338-ravishing-the-heiress-by-sherry-thomas" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ravishing the Heiress by Sherry Thomas</a></li><li>There are so many&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/genres/historical-romance-heroine-bastard" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bastards in historical romance</a>, partly because it’s an easy on-ramp for&nbsp;<a href="https://teatimeromance.wordpress.com/2012/10/11/you-bastard-illegitimacy-during-the-regency/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">creating a character who is an outsider.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.refinery29.com/en-gb/2021/05/10484804/benefits-of-ethical-non-monogamy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ethical non-monogamy</a>&nbsp;is the practice of talking to your partner(s) about the boundaries of your relationship.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/325880" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Polyamorous</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thecouplescenter.org/better-understanding-open-relationships-and-non-monogamy/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Open relationships</a>&nbsp;would fall into this category.&nbsp;</li><li>On&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/ItsMaryse" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Maryse’s Book Blog</a>, there was&nbsp;<a href="https://www.maryse.net/books/book-recommendations/cheating-book-list.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a 2015 post about cheating in romance</a>, and most of the titles are self-published and indie.</li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/tv/CPJ_LhND3uC/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah talked about Lorenzo Lamas and Dynasty</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/tv/CQcX2zxo9kL/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen and her brother Mike talked about Santa Barbara</a>on Adriana’s Instagram Live conversations about telenovelas and soap operas.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://a.pgtb.me/NLBJRC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">We are having a live episode of Fated Mates to celebrate the launch of Bombshell on August 24th at 7 eastern</a>, to get a ticket, you'll need to buy a copy from one of these indie bookstores. (If you already pre-ordered from WORD in Brooklyn, you'll get log in details in an email.)&nbsp;</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/8/1/s0351-mistresses-courtesans-and-cheating-in-romance-interstitial-with-adriana-herrera </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/8/1/s0351-mistresses-courtesans-and-cheating-in-romance-interstitial-with-adriana-herrera]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:6106c2830b486e5d58333b34</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2021 11:13:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/502f9d42-bd75-499e-9b93-62545b973060/fated-matesmistresses-final-revg.mp3" length="89263538" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:26:26</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>58</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>58</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Adriana Herrera, a FIVE-TIMER, joins us this week to talk about the third-rail of romance…infidelity! We’re talking about cheating, and about all the other bits related to it: mistresses, courtesans, illegitimate children, sex work…and get your pencils ready because (of course) we’re toppling TBRs with this one.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-502f9d42-bd75-499e-9b93-62545b973060.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S03.50: Unmasked by the Marquess by Cat Sebastian: a Perfect Modern Historical</title><itunes:title>Unmasked by the Marquess by Cat Sebastian: a Perfect Modern Historical</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We’re nearing the end of Season Three and we are so happy to be reading one of the most delightful books in modern historical romance, Cat Sebastian’s <em>Unmasked by the Marquess</em>. We talk about Cat’s masterful plotting within a three-act structure, about friendship, trust and sacrifice in relationships, and about writing a modern historical while still delivering the bananas plots that made the early books in the genre the best.</p><p>We also announce our next Fated Mates LIVE! to celebrate the release of Sarah’s next book, BOMBSHELL! Join us and some of our very favorite people on August 24th! Tickets are a copy of the book, and available at five participating romance friendly bookstores. <a href="https://a.pgtb.me/NLBJRC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Get them here</a>! </p><p>Our next read along is Sarah’s BOMBSHELL! Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3aqVOU7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/bombshellmac" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/bombshellnook" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/bombshellkobo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063056152" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>, or signed via Sarah’s local indie, <a href="https://bit.ly/3wPbo6t" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">WORD</a>,  or one of the participating romance-friendly bookstores hosting the <a href="https://a.pgtb.me/NLBJRC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates Live/Virtual Bombshell Launch</a>! Orders from WORD or the launch sponsors will come with a Fated Mates Sticker! </p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! Please follow us on your favorite podcasting app, and if you are up for leaving a rating or review there, we would be very grateful.</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://a.pgtb.me/NLBJRC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The virtual launch event for Bombshell</a>&nbsp;will be on Tuesday Aug 24 at 7eastern/4 pacific.&nbsp;<a href="https://shop.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">If you pre-ordered a signed book from Word!</a>, keep an eye out for details for how to join the event.</li><li>Unmasked by the Marquess received excellent reviews from&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/cat-sebastian/unmasked-by-the-marquess/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kirkus</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.publishersweekly.com/978-0-06-282065-5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Publisher’s Weekly</a>, and the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/books/review/summer-reading-romance.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">New York Times</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://transequality.org/issues/resources/understanding-non-binary-people-how-to-be-respectful-and-supportive#:~:text=Many%20non%2Dbinary%20people%20use,show%20respect%20for%20someone's%20identity." rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A guide to nonbinary pronouns</a>.</li><li>The audiobook of Unmasked by the Marquess is great, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.audible.com/search?searchNarrator=joel-leslie" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">narrated by Joel Leslie.&nbsp;</a></li><li>Cat Sebastian is a fanfiction expert and routinely talks about some of her favorite fics. If you don’t know,&nbsp;<a href="https://shipping.fandom.com/wiki/Stucky" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Stucky ship of Cap &amp; Bucky</a>&nbsp;is the most written about ship on Ao3.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/natural%20child" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“Natural child”</a>&nbsp;was the nice way of saying that a child was born out of wedlock. The mean way, of course, is&nbsp;<a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bastard" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bastard</a>.</li><li>More about the&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-act_structure" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">three act structure.</a></li><li>This is&nbsp;<a href="https://jezebel.com/a-chat-with-cat-sebastian-about-writing-queer-character-1823034046" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a great interview with Cat Sebastian in Jezebel</a>&nbsp;about writing queer characters in historical romance.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/7/26/s0350-unmasked-by-the-marquess-by-cat-sebastian </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We’re nearing the end of Season Three and we are so happy to be reading one of the most delightful books in modern historical romance, Cat Sebastian’s <em>Unmasked by the Marquess</em>. We talk about Cat’s masterful plotting within a three-act structure, about friendship, trust and sacrifice in relationships, and about writing a modern historical while still delivering the bananas plots that made the early books in the genre the best.</p><p>We also announce our next Fated Mates LIVE! to celebrate the release of Sarah’s next book, BOMBSHELL! Join us and some of our very favorite people on August 24th! Tickets are a copy of the book, and available at five participating romance friendly bookstores. <a href="https://a.pgtb.me/NLBJRC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Get them here</a>! </p><p>Our next read along is Sarah’s BOMBSHELL! Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3aqVOU7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/bombshellmac" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/bombshellnook" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/bombshellkobo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780063056152" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>, or signed via Sarah’s local indie, <a href="https://bit.ly/3wPbo6t" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">WORD</a>,  or one of the participating romance-friendly bookstores hosting the <a href="https://a.pgtb.me/NLBJRC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates Live/Virtual Bombshell Launch</a>! Orders from WORD or the launch sponsors will come with a Fated Mates Sticker! </p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! Please follow us on your favorite podcasting app, and if you are up for leaving a rating or review there, we would be very grateful.</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://a.pgtb.me/NLBJRC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The virtual launch event for Bombshell</a>&nbsp;will be on Tuesday Aug 24 at 7eastern/4 pacific.&nbsp;<a href="https://shop.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">If you pre-ordered a signed book from Word!</a>, keep an eye out for details for how to join the event.</li><li>Unmasked by the Marquess received excellent reviews from&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/cat-sebastian/unmasked-by-the-marquess/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kirkus</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.publishersweekly.com/978-0-06-282065-5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Publisher’s Weekly</a>, and the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/books/review/summer-reading-romance.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">New York Times</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://transequality.org/issues/resources/understanding-non-binary-people-how-to-be-respectful-and-supportive#:~:text=Many%20non%2Dbinary%20people%20use,show%20respect%20for%20someone's%20identity." rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A guide to nonbinary pronouns</a>.</li><li>The audiobook of Unmasked by the Marquess is great, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.audible.com/search?searchNarrator=joel-leslie" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">narrated by Joel Leslie.&nbsp;</a></li><li>Cat Sebastian is a fanfiction expert and routinely talks about some of her favorite fics. If you don’t know,&nbsp;<a href="https://shipping.fandom.com/wiki/Stucky" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Stucky ship of Cap &amp; Bucky</a>&nbsp;is the most written about ship on Ao3.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/natural%20child" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“Natural child”</a>&nbsp;was the nice way of saying that a child was born out of wedlock. The mean way, of course, is&nbsp;<a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bastard" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bastard</a>.</li><li>More about the&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-act_structure" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">three act structure.</a></li><li>This is&nbsp;<a href="https://jezebel.com/a-chat-with-cat-sebastian-about-writing-queer-character-1823034046" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a great interview with Cat Sebastian in Jezebel</a>&nbsp;about writing queer characters in historical romance.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/7/26/s0350-unmasked-by-the-marquess-by-cat-sebastian </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/7/26/s0350-unmasked-by-the-marquess-by-cat-sebastian]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:60ff370d2f799f33b641ec82</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2021 20:59:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/a9cd605a-ff49-4c12-a935-7f02caeba5c4/fated-mates-cat-sebastian-final-revb.mp3" length="57397593" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>56:32</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>57</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>57</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We’re nearing the end of Season Three and we are so happy to be reading one of the most delightful books in modern historical romance, Cat Sebastian’s Unmasked by the Marquess. We talk about Cat’s masterful plotting within a three-act structure, about friendship, trust and sacrifice in relationships, and about writing a modern historical while still delivering the bananas plots that made the early books in the genre the best.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-a9cd605a-ff49-4c12-a935-7f02caeba5c4.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S03.49: YA Romance Novels with Nicola Yoon</title><itunes:title>YA Romance Interstitial with Nicola Yoon</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Two episodes this week! Huzzah! </p><p>Today we’re joined by the extremely delightful, extremely brilliant Nicola Yoon to discuss her extremely romantic new book, Instructions for Dancing, and YA Romance in general! We talk about Nicola’s love of romance novels (which she shares with the heroine of her book), about her history with them, and about what makes YA Romance so extremely delicious. We also talk about her new project with the Obamas and her new imprint for young readers at Random House.</p><p>Our next read along (next week! we told you it was coming!) is Cat Sebastian’s wonderful <em>Unmasked by the Marquess</em>. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3vPJfuf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/unmasked-by-the-marquess/id1239320156" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/unmasked-by-the-marquess-cat-sebastian/1127834372?ean=9780062820655" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/unmasked-by-the-marquess" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780062821607" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! Please follow us on your favorite podcasting app, and if you are up for leaving a rating or review there, we would be very grateful!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nicolayoon.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nicola Yoon!</a>&nbsp;Along with&nbsp;<em>Instructions for Dancing</em>, she and five other Black women authors just published the&nbsp;<em>Blackout</em>&nbsp;anthology, which has been&nbsp;<a href="https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/barack-michelle-obama-blackout-netflix-1235018134/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">picked up by the Obamas for TV and film for Netflix.</a><a href="https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/book-publishing-power-club.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nicola and her husband David Yoon</a>&nbsp;are also creating the Yooniverse, including&nbsp;<a href="https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/childrens/childrens-industry-news/article/84515-nicola-and-david-yoon-launch-ya-romance-imprint-starring-heroes-of-color.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a new YA romance imprint called Joy Revolution at Random House</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.polygon.com/2020/10/3/21497819/scariest-pg-movies-poltergeist-scenes-clown-tree-pool-skeletons" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Poltergeist</em></a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/cursed-films-inside-the-poltergeist-curse/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">its infamous curse</a>&nbsp;scared everyone back in the 80.&nbsp;</li><li>Nicola wasn’t sure what imprint she was reading when she found her first romance under her aunt's bed, but she mentioned&nbsp;<a href="https://www.harlequin.com/shop/brand/harlequin-blaze.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Harlequin Blaze,</a>&nbsp;one of our all time favorite imprints which&nbsp;<a href="https://quillandquire.com/book-news/2016/04/28/harlequin-shutters-blaze-imprint-shifts-some-north-american-distribution-online/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">was shuttered in 2017.&nbsp;</a></li><li>Just a quick reminder that&nbsp;<a href="https://writingcooperative.com/hea-vs-hfn-aea4ad42f7c5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">HFN means “happy for now” and HEA means “happily ever after.”&nbsp;</a></li><li><a href="https://www.cnn.com/2013/10/15/living/young-adult-fiction-evolution/index.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">YA has evolved over time</a>, a process which has&nbsp;<a href="https://www.teenlibrariantoolbox.com/2019/07/a-brief-history-of-ya-literature-an-infographic/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ramped up in the past 20 years</a>&nbsp;and is now a publishing juggernaut.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/childrens/childrens-industry-news/article/80107-ya-for-changing-times.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">YA is far more progressive that adult romance</a>, but also grapples with the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2017/12/why-so-many-adults-are-love-young-adult-literature/547334/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">influence of adult</a><a href="https://www.thecut.com/2014/06/dudes-who-read-young-adult-fiction.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">readers of</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vulture.com/2013/10/thirtysomething-teen-on-young-adult-novels.html#_ga=2.90196826.1505626732.1626787855-1857692646.1624310449" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">all kinds</a>&nbsp;and gatekeepers who&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ala.org/advocacy/bbooks/frequentlychallengedbooks/top10" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">want to stop kids from reading about sex &amp; gender,</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://bookriot.com/white-gatekeeping-in-ya/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">race,</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2016/10/how-banned-books-marginalize-children/502424/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">other issues around identity</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>According to the Library of Congress,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.loc.gov/item/lcwaN0004130#:~:text=Urban%20Dictionary%20is%20a%20crowdsourced,early%20definitions%20are%20from%202003." rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">most of the earliest entries from Urban Dictionary date back to 2003.</a></li><li>Before Covid, It used to be hard to explain&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/jan/31/we-were-so-scared-four-people-who-faced-the-horror-of-aids-in-the-80s" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the terrifying rise of HIV was in the 1980s,</a>&nbsp;along with the way&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vox.com/2015/12/1/9828348/ronald-reagan-hiv-aids" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Reagan administration ignored the epidemic.</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.avert.org/professionals/history-hiv-aids/overview" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">This timeline</a>&nbsp;tells the history of the HIV/AIDS crisis, and here is an explainer for why&nbsp;<a href="https://www.unaids.org/en/resources/presscentre/featurestories/2021/february/20210209_how-was-a-covid-19-vaccine-found-so-quickly" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Covid vaccinations were developed so fast when we still don’t have one for HIV.</a></li><li>The Heads of Your Enemies as&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mindbodygreen.com/articles/the-5-love-languages-explained" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">love language</a>&nbsp;appears in&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/7/20/18-shadows-claim-and-shadows-seduction" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Shadow’s Claim</em>,</a>&nbsp;when Trehan literally gives this gift to Bettina while they are courting.&nbsp;</li><li><em>The Wrath and the Dawn</em>&nbsp;is a retelling of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.arabamerica.com/one-thousand-one-nights-shahrazad-traditional-feminists/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Scheherazade story</a>, which is&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2013/06/the-humanist-message-hidden-amid-the-violence-of-i-one-thousand-and-one-nights-i/277210/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the framing device for The Arabian Nights</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>If you are GenX or Millenial and were a reader, you’ll love the book&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3xSFu9l" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Paperback Crush: The Totally Radical History of 80s and 90s Teen Fiction</em>.</a>&nbsp;It's full of images, so read it in paper or on a full-color reading device!</li><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/11/25/s0212-lord-of-scoundrels" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jessica Trent</a>&nbsp;is a different thing entirely than Jessica Wakefield. Along with other changes,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/68100/14-things-you-might-not-know-about-sweet-valley-high" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Sweet Valley High twins are size 4 now,</a>&nbsp;which we don’t like at all.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/byung-hun-lee-netflix-rom-com-i-believe-thing-called-love-1234983651/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>I Believe in a Thing Called Love</em>&nbsp;was also just optioned for Netflix,</a>&nbsp;but they aren’t going to have much luck checking&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Wirecutter</a>&nbsp;for road spike recommendations,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/best-ice-cleats/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">because this was the closest thing I could find to them.</a></li><li>“<a href="https://buffy.fandom.com/wiki/Hellmouth" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Hellmouth</a>&nbsp;or whatever,” is a reference to&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunnydale" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sunnydale, the setting of Buffy the Vampire Slayer.&nbsp;</a></li><li>You can&nbsp;<a href="https://shop.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">pre-order signed copies of Sarah's&nbsp;<em>Bombshell</em></a>&nbsp;from WORD in Brooklyn, and you'll get a Fated Mates sticker with your signed book!</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/7/20/s0349-ya-romance-interstitial-with-nicola-yoon </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two episodes this week! Huzzah! </p><p>Today we’re joined by the extremely delightful, extremely brilliant Nicola Yoon to discuss her extremely romantic new book, Instructions for Dancing, and YA Romance in general! We talk about Nicola’s love of romance novels (which she shares with the heroine of her book), about her history with them, and about what makes YA Romance so extremely delicious. We also talk about her new project with the Obamas and her new imprint for young readers at Random House.</p><p>Our next read along (next week! we told you it was coming!) is Cat Sebastian’s wonderful <em>Unmasked by the Marquess</em>. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3vPJfuf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/unmasked-by-the-marquess/id1239320156" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/unmasked-by-the-marquess-cat-sebastian/1127834372?ean=9780062820655" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/unmasked-by-the-marquess" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780062821607" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! Please follow us on your favorite podcasting app, and if you are up for leaving a rating or review there, we would be very grateful!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nicolayoon.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nicola Yoon!</a>&nbsp;Along with&nbsp;<em>Instructions for Dancing</em>, she and five other Black women authors just published the&nbsp;<em>Blackout</em>&nbsp;anthology, which has been&nbsp;<a href="https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/barack-michelle-obama-blackout-netflix-1235018134/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">picked up by the Obamas for TV and film for Netflix.</a><a href="https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/book-publishing-power-club.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nicola and her husband David Yoon</a>&nbsp;are also creating the Yooniverse, including&nbsp;<a href="https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/childrens/childrens-industry-news/article/84515-nicola-and-david-yoon-launch-ya-romance-imprint-starring-heroes-of-color.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a new YA romance imprint called Joy Revolution at Random House</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.polygon.com/2020/10/3/21497819/scariest-pg-movies-poltergeist-scenes-clown-tree-pool-skeletons" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Poltergeist</em></a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/cursed-films-inside-the-poltergeist-curse/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">its infamous curse</a>&nbsp;scared everyone back in the 80.&nbsp;</li><li>Nicola wasn’t sure what imprint she was reading when she found her first romance under her aunt's bed, but she mentioned&nbsp;<a href="https://www.harlequin.com/shop/brand/harlequin-blaze.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Harlequin Blaze,</a>&nbsp;one of our all time favorite imprints which&nbsp;<a href="https://quillandquire.com/book-news/2016/04/28/harlequin-shutters-blaze-imprint-shifts-some-north-american-distribution-online/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">was shuttered in 2017.&nbsp;</a></li><li>Just a quick reminder that&nbsp;<a href="https://writingcooperative.com/hea-vs-hfn-aea4ad42f7c5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">HFN means “happy for now” and HEA means “happily ever after.”&nbsp;</a></li><li><a href="https://www.cnn.com/2013/10/15/living/young-adult-fiction-evolution/index.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">YA has evolved over time</a>, a process which has&nbsp;<a href="https://www.teenlibrariantoolbox.com/2019/07/a-brief-history-of-ya-literature-an-infographic/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ramped up in the past 20 years</a>&nbsp;and is now a publishing juggernaut.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/childrens/childrens-industry-news/article/80107-ya-for-changing-times.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">YA is far more progressive that adult romance</a>, but also grapples with the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2017/12/why-so-many-adults-are-love-young-adult-literature/547334/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">influence of adult</a><a href="https://www.thecut.com/2014/06/dudes-who-read-young-adult-fiction.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">readers of</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vulture.com/2013/10/thirtysomething-teen-on-young-adult-novels.html#_ga=2.90196826.1505626732.1626787855-1857692646.1624310449" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">all kinds</a>&nbsp;and gatekeepers who&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ala.org/advocacy/bbooks/frequentlychallengedbooks/top10" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">want to stop kids from reading about sex &amp; gender,</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://bookriot.com/white-gatekeeping-in-ya/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">race,</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2016/10/how-banned-books-marginalize-children/502424/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">other issues around identity</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>According to the Library of Congress,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.loc.gov/item/lcwaN0004130#:~:text=Urban%20Dictionary%20is%20a%20crowdsourced,early%20definitions%20are%20from%202003." rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">most of the earliest entries from Urban Dictionary date back to 2003.</a></li><li>Before Covid, It used to be hard to explain&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/jan/31/we-were-so-scared-four-people-who-faced-the-horror-of-aids-in-the-80s" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the terrifying rise of HIV was in the 1980s,</a>&nbsp;along with the way&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vox.com/2015/12/1/9828348/ronald-reagan-hiv-aids" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Reagan administration ignored the epidemic.</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.avert.org/professionals/history-hiv-aids/overview" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">This timeline</a>&nbsp;tells the history of the HIV/AIDS crisis, and here is an explainer for why&nbsp;<a href="https://www.unaids.org/en/resources/presscentre/featurestories/2021/february/20210209_how-was-a-covid-19-vaccine-found-so-quickly" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Covid vaccinations were developed so fast when we still don’t have one for HIV.</a></li><li>The Heads of Your Enemies as&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mindbodygreen.com/articles/the-5-love-languages-explained" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">love language</a>&nbsp;appears in&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/7/20/18-shadows-claim-and-shadows-seduction" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Shadow’s Claim</em>,</a>&nbsp;when Trehan literally gives this gift to Bettina while they are courting.&nbsp;</li><li><em>The Wrath and the Dawn</em>&nbsp;is a retelling of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.arabamerica.com/one-thousand-one-nights-shahrazad-traditional-feminists/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Scheherazade story</a>, which is&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2013/06/the-humanist-message-hidden-amid-the-violence-of-i-one-thousand-and-one-nights-i/277210/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the framing device for The Arabian Nights</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>If you are GenX or Millenial and were a reader, you’ll love the book&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3xSFu9l" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Paperback Crush: The Totally Radical History of 80s and 90s Teen Fiction</em>.</a>&nbsp;It's full of images, so read it in paper or on a full-color reading device!</li><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/11/25/s0212-lord-of-scoundrels" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jessica Trent</a>&nbsp;is a different thing entirely than Jessica Wakefield. Along with other changes,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/68100/14-things-you-might-not-know-about-sweet-valley-high" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Sweet Valley High twins are size 4 now,</a>&nbsp;which we don’t like at all.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/byung-hun-lee-netflix-rom-com-i-believe-thing-called-love-1234983651/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>I Believe in a Thing Called Love</em>&nbsp;was also just optioned for Netflix,</a>&nbsp;but they aren’t going to have much luck checking&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Wirecutter</a>&nbsp;for road spike recommendations,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/best-ice-cleats/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">because this was the closest thing I could find to them.</a></li><li>“<a href="https://buffy.fandom.com/wiki/Hellmouth" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Hellmouth</a>&nbsp;or whatever,” is a reference to&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunnydale" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sunnydale, the setting of Buffy the Vampire Slayer.&nbsp;</a></li><li>You can&nbsp;<a href="https://shop.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">pre-order signed copies of Sarah's&nbsp;<em>Bombshell</em></a>&nbsp;from WORD in Brooklyn, and you'll get a Fated Mates sticker with your signed book!</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/7/20/s0349-ya-romance-interstitial-with-nicola-yoon </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/7/20/s0349-ya-romance-interstitial-with-nicola-yoon]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:60f6d7ebc674fb4ac69ed510</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2021 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/5b6ed1eb-46f0-45aa-ab96-a2616c5286af/nicola-yoon-final-revb.mp3" length="65414977" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:00:17</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>56</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>56</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Two episodes this week! Huzzah! 

Today we’re joined by the extremely delightful, extremely brilliant Nicola Yoon to discuss her extremely romantic new book, Instructions for Dancing, and YA Romance in general! We talk about Nicola’s love of romance novels (which she shares with the heroine of her book), about her history with them, and about what makes YA Romance so extremely delicious. We also talk about her new project with the Obamas and her new imprint for young readers at Random House.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-5b6ed1eb-46f0-45aa-ab96-a2616c5286af.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S03.48: The Ted Lasso Interstitial: Is Roy Kent a Romance Hero?</title><itunes:title>The Ted Lasso Episode: Is Roy Kent a Romance Hero?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>“Hang on,” we can hear you saying, “isn’t this a romance novel podcast?” It absolutely is, and that’s why we’re dropping a very special episode about the character who is the most perfect on-screen version of a romance hero that ever there was: Captain of the AFC Richmond team, Roy Kent. Added bonus, we’re joined by Jen’s brother Erik to talk sports stories (and check in on Jürgen Klopp).</p><p>Spoilers abound, so if you haven’t watched Season 1, do that first!</p><p>Our next read along is Cat Sebastian’s wonderful <em>Unmasked by the Marquess</em>. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3vPJfuf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Amazon</em></a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/unmasked-by-the-marquess/id1239320156" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/unmasked-by-the-marquess-cat-sebastian/1127834372?ean=9780062820655" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/unmasked-by-the-marquess" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780062821607" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! Please follow us on your favorite podcasting app, and if you are up for leaving a rating or review there, we would be very grateful!&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><ul><li>Ted Lasso season two starts this Friday, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.rollingstone.com/tv/tv-reviews/ted-lasso-season-2-review-1196240/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the reviews look great</a>. Also, if you haven't read&nbsp;<a href="https://www.gq.com/story/jason-sudeikis-august-cover-profile" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this GQ profile of Jason Sudeikis</a>, you are missing out.</li><li>In season 2, we talked about&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/10/13/s026-cinnamon-roll-romance-heroes-interstitial-with-andie-christopher" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cinnamon Roll heroes</a>, as compared to&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/9/17/s022-the-alpha-in-romance-novels-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alpha heroes</a>. Grunting is definitely an alpha hero trait.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://variety.com/2021/tv/features/ted-lasso-season-2-hannah-waddingham-juno-temple-1235019877/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">We love Hannah Waddingham (Rebecca) and Juno Temple (Keeley)</a>&nbsp;and that’s all we have to say about that.&nbsp;</li><li>Apparently, there are&nbsp;<a href="https://gizmodo.com/how-to-watch-apple-tv-if-you-havent-got-an-apple-tv-1840483641" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ways to watch Apple TV Plus shows</a>&nbsp;even if you don’t have an Apple Device. Who knew!&nbsp;</li><li>You, too, can&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/24/22401368/ted-lasso-shortbread-recipe-apple-spring-loaded" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bake Ted’s biscuits</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://bleacherreport.com/articles/144405-why-you-hate-soccer" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">USAians have a different relationship with Soccer</a>&nbsp;than&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goal.com/en-us/news/explained-why-us-soccer-doesnt-have-relegation-and-promotion-and-/7a2v9a1dga8v116cbjr5lspl1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the rest of the world</a>. Perhaps you need a primer on&nbsp;<a href="https://www.premierleague.com/premier-league-explained" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Premier League,</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Promotion_and_relegation" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">promotion and relegation</a>, the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.planetfootball.com/quick-reads/ranking-all-20-premier-league-clubs-by-the-average-age-of-their-squad/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">average age of Premier League players</a>, and just&nbsp;<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/04/22/map-how-english-soccer-teams-rule-the-world/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">how popular is Premier League football really is.</a></li><li>Fated Mates has a favorite team, it’s&nbsp;<a href="https://www.liverpoolfc.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Liverpool</a>, and it’s basically because of our favorite&nbsp;<a href="https://wickedwallflowersclub.simplecast.com/episodes/andie-1c5211fa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">stern brunch daddy TM</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/lauralexx/status/1238601779773952005?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jürgen Klopp.</a>&nbsp;Stern Brunch Daddy(tm) is the invention of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.andiejchristopher.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Andie J. Christopher</a>, friend of the pod, who has a new book out this week!&nbsp;</li><li>Richmond is a fake team, but that won’t stop you from&nbsp;<a href="https://wbshop.com/pages/ted-lasso" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">buying gear</a>&nbsp;to show your team spirit. This year,&nbsp;<a href="https://thechamplair.com/soccer/professional-london-teams/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">London was home to six Premier League teams: Arsenal, Chelsea, Crystal Palace, Fulham, Tottenham, and West Ham United.</a></li><li>Yes, Jen hates it&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1357780340501274624?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">when young characters make ancient pop culture references in romances</a>, but in this case, Indiana Jones is appropriate for people our age! Go ahead and&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/lQg7QKDButo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">write I Love You on your eyelids!&nbsp;</a></li><li>More about the story of how&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vulture.com/article/brett-goldstein-ted-lasso-soulmates-interview.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brett Goldstein got the part of Roy Kent</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Jen’s&nbsp;<a href="https://deadline.com/2021/06/janine-nabers-overall-deal-amazon-developing-tech-drama-syd-1234784412/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sister-in-law Janine</a>&nbsp;writes for TV and she’s kind of a big deal!&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/7/6/s0346-susan-elizabeth-phillips" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Susan Elizabeth Philips</a>&nbsp;was a guest a few weeks ago, and she talked about&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/3/30/s0230-nobodys-baby-but-mine-by-susan-elizabeth-phillips-" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the trope of the grizzled veteran at the end of his career</a>&nbsp;and how it’s a hallmark of the&nbsp;<a href="https://susanelizabethphillips.com/chicago-stars-series/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chicago Stars series.</a></li><li>Jen mentioned a series of soccer romances--<a href="https://amzn.to/3ipX2D3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">it’s the Atlanta Skyline series by Rebecca Crowley.</a></li><li>You know, Roy Kent really&nbsp;<a href="https://wristadvisor.com/how-much-is-a-rolex-and-what-is-a-rolex-worth/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">should have tried to get that Rolex back</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/28/arts/television/bridgerton-outlander-romance-novels.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">In a New York Times article about adapting romance to TV and film</a>, Outlander showrunner Matthew B. Roberts “found that voice-over sequences left actors standing around with nothing to play against. Interior monologue has to become exterior dialogue. ‘That’s our biggest challenge always.’</li><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/10/23/5-a-wolf-without-a-foot-intro" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“It’s witched” was a joke from our very first episode</a>, in case you’re into that sort of thing.&nbsp;</li><li>That German word (phrase?) is&nbsp;<a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Sturm%20und%20Drang" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sturm und drang</a>&nbsp;and it means turmoil.</li><li><a href="https://www.bustle.com/p/what-does-christian-say-at-the-end-of-fifty-shades-freed-the-line-ends-the-franchise-on-a-sexy-note-8161886" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">No topping from the bottom.</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroine%27s_journey" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Maureen Murdock’s Heroine’s Journey</a>&nbsp;is an archetype that values community building over individualism,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3iqDRJo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">we like the latest iteration from Gail Carriger.</a></li><li><a href="https://screenrant.com/ted-lasso-appletv-most-likable-characters/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rupert Mannion is the woooooorst</a>. That darts scene is awesome though, and if you want to read a contemporary romance set in a pub that includes darts playing,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Duke-Worth-Falling-Secret-Novella-ebook/dp/B096L33WT4/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&amp;keywords=duke%20worth%20falling%20for&amp;qid=1626725090&amp;sr=8-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah wrote one</a>!</li><li>Other sports TV shows and movies we mentioned:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friday_Night_Lights_(TV_series)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Friday Night Lights</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_Night" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sports Night</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_League" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The League</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bull_Durham" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bull Durham</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_League_(film)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Major League</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Maybe you didn’t...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Hang on,” we can hear you saying, “isn’t this a romance novel podcast?” It absolutely is, and that’s why we’re dropping a very special episode about the character who is the most perfect on-screen version of a romance hero that ever there was: Captain of the AFC Richmond team, Roy Kent. Added bonus, we’re joined by Jen’s brother Erik to talk sports stories (and check in on Jürgen Klopp).</p><p>Spoilers abound, so if you haven’t watched Season 1, do that first!</p><p>Our next read along is Cat Sebastian’s wonderful <em>Unmasked by the Marquess</em>. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3vPJfuf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Amazon</em></a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/unmasked-by-the-marquess/id1239320156" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/unmasked-by-the-marquess-cat-sebastian/1127834372?ean=9780062820655" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/unmasked-by-the-marquess" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780062821607" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! Please follow us on your favorite podcasting app, and if you are up for leaving a rating or review there, we would be very grateful!&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><ul><li>Ted Lasso season two starts this Friday, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.rollingstone.com/tv/tv-reviews/ted-lasso-season-2-review-1196240/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the reviews look great</a>. Also, if you haven't read&nbsp;<a href="https://www.gq.com/story/jason-sudeikis-august-cover-profile" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this GQ profile of Jason Sudeikis</a>, you are missing out.</li><li>In season 2, we talked about&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/10/13/s026-cinnamon-roll-romance-heroes-interstitial-with-andie-christopher" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cinnamon Roll heroes</a>, as compared to&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/9/17/s022-the-alpha-in-romance-novels-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alpha heroes</a>. Grunting is definitely an alpha hero trait.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://variety.com/2021/tv/features/ted-lasso-season-2-hannah-waddingham-juno-temple-1235019877/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">We love Hannah Waddingham (Rebecca) and Juno Temple (Keeley)</a>&nbsp;and that’s all we have to say about that.&nbsp;</li><li>Apparently, there are&nbsp;<a href="https://gizmodo.com/how-to-watch-apple-tv-if-you-havent-got-an-apple-tv-1840483641" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ways to watch Apple TV Plus shows</a>&nbsp;even if you don’t have an Apple Device. Who knew!&nbsp;</li><li>You, too, can&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/24/22401368/ted-lasso-shortbread-recipe-apple-spring-loaded" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bake Ted’s biscuits</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://bleacherreport.com/articles/144405-why-you-hate-soccer" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">USAians have a different relationship with Soccer</a>&nbsp;than&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goal.com/en-us/news/explained-why-us-soccer-doesnt-have-relegation-and-promotion-and-/7a2v9a1dga8v116cbjr5lspl1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the rest of the world</a>. Perhaps you need a primer on&nbsp;<a href="https://www.premierleague.com/premier-league-explained" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Premier League,</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Promotion_and_relegation" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">promotion and relegation</a>, the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.planetfootball.com/quick-reads/ranking-all-20-premier-league-clubs-by-the-average-age-of-their-squad/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">average age of Premier League players</a>, and just&nbsp;<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/04/22/map-how-english-soccer-teams-rule-the-world/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">how popular is Premier League football really is.</a></li><li>Fated Mates has a favorite team, it’s&nbsp;<a href="https://www.liverpoolfc.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Liverpool</a>, and it’s basically because of our favorite&nbsp;<a href="https://wickedwallflowersclub.simplecast.com/episodes/andie-1c5211fa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">stern brunch daddy TM</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/lauralexx/status/1238601779773952005?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jürgen Klopp.</a>&nbsp;Stern Brunch Daddy(tm) is the invention of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.andiejchristopher.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Andie J. Christopher</a>, friend of the pod, who has a new book out this week!&nbsp;</li><li>Richmond is a fake team, but that won’t stop you from&nbsp;<a href="https://wbshop.com/pages/ted-lasso" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">buying gear</a>&nbsp;to show your team spirit. This year,&nbsp;<a href="https://thechamplair.com/soccer/professional-london-teams/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">London was home to six Premier League teams: Arsenal, Chelsea, Crystal Palace, Fulham, Tottenham, and West Ham United.</a></li><li>Yes, Jen hates it&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1357780340501274624?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">when young characters make ancient pop culture references in romances</a>, but in this case, Indiana Jones is appropriate for people our age! Go ahead and&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/lQg7QKDButo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">write I Love You on your eyelids!&nbsp;</a></li><li>More about the story of how&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vulture.com/article/brett-goldstein-ted-lasso-soulmates-interview.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brett Goldstein got the part of Roy Kent</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Jen’s&nbsp;<a href="https://deadline.com/2021/06/janine-nabers-overall-deal-amazon-developing-tech-drama-syd-1234784412/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sister-in-law Janine</a>&nbsp;writes for TV and she’s kind of a big deal!&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/7/6/s0346-susan-elizabeth-phillips" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Susan Elizabeth Philips</a>&nbsp;was a guest a few weeks ago, and she talked about&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/3/30/s0230-nobodys-baby-but-mine-by-susan-elizabeth-phillips-" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the trope of the grizzled veteran at the end of his career</a>&nbsp;and how it’s a hallmark of the&nbsp;<a href="https://susanelizabethphillips.com/chicago-stars-series/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chicago Stars series.</a></li><li>Jen mentioned a series of soccer romances--<a href="https://amzn.to/3ipX2D3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">it’s the Atlanta Skyline series by Rebecca Crowley.</a></li><li>You know, Roy Kent really&nbsp;<a href="https://wristadvisor.com/how-much-is-a-rolex-and-what-is-a-rolex-worth/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">should have tried to get that Rolex back</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/28/arts/television/bridgerton-outlander-romance-novels.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">In a New York Times article about adapting romance to TV and film</a>, Outlander showrunner Matthew B. Roberts “found that voice-over sequences left actors standing around with nothing to play against. Interior monologue has to become exterior dialogue. ‘That’s our biggest challenge always.’</li><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/10/23/5-a-wolf-without-a-foot-intro" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“It’s witched” was a joke from our very first episode</a>, in case you’re into that sort of thing.&nbsp;</li><li>That German word (phrase?) is&nbsp;<a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Sturm%20und%20Drang" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sturm und drang</a>&nbsp;and it means turmoil.</li><li><a href="https://www.bustle.com/p/what-does-christian-say-at-the-end-of-fifty-shades-freed-the-line-ends-the-franchise-on-a-sexy-note-8161886" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">No topping from the bottom.</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroine%27s_journey" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Maureen Murdock’s Heroine’s Journey</a>&nbsp;is an archetype that values community building over individualism,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3iqDRJo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">we like the latest iteration from Gail Carriger.</a></li><li><a href="https://screenrant.com/ted-lasso-appletv-most-likable-characters/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rupert Mannion is the woooooorst</a>. That darts scene is awesome though, and if you want to read a contemporary romance set in a pub that includes darts playing,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Duke-Worth-Falling-Secret-Novella-ebook/dp/B096L33WT4/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&amp;keywords=duke%20worth%20falling%20for&amp;qid=1626725090&amp;sr=8-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah wrote one</a>!</li><li>Other sports TV shows and movies we mentioned:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friday_Night_Lights_(TV_series)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Friday Night Lights</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_Night" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sports Night</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_League" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The League</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bull_Durham" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bull Durham</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_League_(film)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Major League</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Maybe you didn’t know that the character of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.si.com/soccer/2020/08/11/ted-lasso-jason-sudeikis-apple-tv-series-nbc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ted Lasso originated in a series of TV commercials for NBC.&nbsp;</a></li><li><a href="https://www.thewrap.com/ted-lasso-jason-sudeikis-premiere-apple-bill-lawrence/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bill Lawrence&nbsp;</a>was a producer for Spin City and Scrubs, which were other funny workplace comedies.&nbsp;</li><li>In the past few weeks,&nbsp;<a href="https://edition.cnn.com/2021/07/11/football/england-italy-euro-2020-final-wembley-spt-intl/index.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Italy won the Euro 2020</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/10/sports/soccer/lionel-messi-argentina-brazil-copa-america.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Argentina won the Copa America</a>. And the Olympics football competition will be interesting since&nbsp;<a href="https://olympics.nbcsports.com/2020/04/03/fifa-olympic-soccer-age-rule/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">men’s teams are limited to players under 23 years of age.</a>&nbsp;FYI,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.npr.org/2021/06/28/1011037722/the-u-s-womens-soccer-team-struggle-for-equal-pay-featured-in-new-lfg-documentar" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the US Soccer Federation is pretty awful</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>For&nbsp;<a href="https://www.themaneland.com/2017/8/13/16139136/our-city-how-generation-x-saved-american-soccer-nasl-mls-baby-boom-millennial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Generation X</a>&nbsp;and Millenials, soccer was a big deal. If you are interested in a family friendly sports outing,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mlssoccer.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">maybe your city has a professional soccer team</a>!&nbsp;<a href="https://vimeo.com/16886685" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Chicago Fire is awesome</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nycgo.com/articles/nyc-soccer-faq-11-questions/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">New York has two teams</a>!&nbsp;</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1798046-world-cups-revisited-the-story-of-usa-1994" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">1994 World Cup was played in the USA</a>, and Sarah remembered the name of defender&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/vu1KZ2zDAbE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alexi Lalas</a>. Now he’s a commentator&nbsp;<a href="https://www.masslive.com/sports/2020/06/alexis-lalas-deletes-apologizes-for-now-it-takes-courage-to-actually-stand-for-the-national-anthem-tweet.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">and we would like him to do better</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>So&nbsp;<a href="https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1856678-20-football-tricks-and-the-players-who-invented-them" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">there are trick plays in football</a>&nbsp;and . . .&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="https://bleacherreport.com/articles/876142-top-10-trick-plays-in-nfl-history" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">well, football.</a></li><li>The last few decades of television have focused on&nbsp;<a href="https://the-take.com/watch/why-have-television-audiences-fallen-so-hard-for-the-anti-hero" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the antihero</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vox.com/culture/22233503/antihero-donald-trump-house-of-cards" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lots of people wonder if that didn’t help create our recent political moment.&nbsp;</a></li><li>It’s hard to beat the fan experience of singing You’ll Never Walk Alone at Anfield; but Erik recommends this&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/uOFMov4RR_Q" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2019 video of the team and fans singing after Liverpool defeated Barcelona</a>. The version in the last episode of season 1 of Ted Lasso is&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/DWxkBMyCa6s" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this one by Marcus Mumford.&nbsp;</a></li><li>Follow&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/AFCRichmond" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AFC Richmond</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/TedLasso" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ted Lasso</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/hanwaddingham" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hannah Waddingham</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/brettgoldstein" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brett Goldstein</a>&nbsp;on Twitter. Jürgen Klopp does not have Twitter because&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/lauralexx/status/1238613793871212549" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"he is a grown man with a job</a>."</li><li>You can preorder signed copies of&nbsp;<a href="https://shop.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bombshell from Word in Brooklyn</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/shop" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">buttons and stickers from Best Friend Kelly</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://jordandene.com/collections/romance-sarah-maclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates merch from Jordan Dene.</a></li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/7/18/s0348-is-roy-kent-a-romance-hero-the-ted-lasso-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/7/18/s0348-is-roy-kent-a-romance-hero-the-ted-lasso-interstitial]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:60f4ae61689a653fd2a6df86</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2021 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/e7d4fc0b-c8d0-4ab5-b406-72d098904661/fated-mates-ted-lasso-reva.mp3" length="106316680" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:41:26</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>55</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>55</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>“Hang on,” we can hear you saying, “isn’t this a romance novel podcast?” It absolutely is, and that’s why we’re dropping a very special episode about the character who is the most perfect on-screen version of a romance hero that ever there was: Captain of the AFC Richmond team, Roy Kent. Added bonus, we’re joined by Jen’s brother Erik to talk sports stories (and check in on Jürgen Klopp).

Spoilers abound, so if you haven’t watched Season 1, do that first!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-e7d4fc0b-c8d0-4ab5-b406-72d098904661.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S03.47: Taboo Romance with Nikki Sloane</title><itunes:title>S03.47: Taboo Romance  with Nikki Sloane</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It’s Taboo Romance week! We’re thrilled to be joined by Nikki Sloane, whose books we’ve adored for years here on FM. We talk about what makes a romance taboo, about why readers are drawn to taboo stories, and about whether taboo romance is empirically erotic. </p><p>Our next read along is Cat Sebastian’s wonderful <em>Unmasked by the Marquess</em>. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3vPJfuf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Amazon</em></a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/unmasked-by-the-marquess/id1239320156" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/unmasked-by-the-marquess-cat-sebastian/1127834372?ean=9780062820655" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/unmasked-by-the-marquess" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780062821607" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! Please follow us on your favorite podcasting app, and if you are up for leaving a rating or review there, we would be very grateful!&nbsp;</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><p>Welcome&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nikkisloane.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nikki Sloane!</a>&nbsp;We discussed her novel&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/5/26/s0238-three-little-mistakes-by-nikki-sloane" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Three Little Mistakes</a>&nbsp;in season two. Her latest release in the Filthy Rich Americans series, The Redemption, won&nbsp;<a href="https://virginiaromancewriters.com/2021-holt-medallion-finalists/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Holt Award</a>&nbsp;from the Virginia Romance Writers Association and has been nominated for the inaugural Vivian Award from the Romance Writers of America.</p><p>We had an episode about&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/4/5/s0333-age-gap-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">age-gap romance</a>, but when the woman is older sometimes we use the phrase Cougar,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.wikihow.com/Know-if-a-Woman-is-a-Cougar" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">which I do not recommend googling!&nbsp;</a></p><p>Taboo romance is difficult to define. But on the episode, we talked about three major ideas: it explores power dynamics, it contains an element of the forbidden, and is makes readers viscerally feel that the relationship is “wrong.” However, Nikki also used the phrase “universal taboos” to describe topics so forbidden--beastality and incest--that they could never be a part of romance.&nbsp;</p><p>In a Florida high school,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/23/us/yearbook-photos-st-johns-girls-altering.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the necklines of women and girls were photoshopped (without their knowledge) if there was too much cleavage.</a></p><p>We’ve been digging the priest taboo since&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thorn_Birds" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Thorn Birds</a>, and it was revived in pop culture by&nbsp;<a href="https://theweek.com/articles/842997/what-fleabags-hot-priest-storyline-gets-right-about-sex-love" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the TV show Fleabag</a>. We discussed&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/11/4/s029-priest-by-sierra-simone" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sierra Simone’s Priest</a>&nbsp;in season two.&nbsp;</p><p>As we reckon with #MeToo,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/03/catharine-mackinnon-what-metoo-has-changed/585313/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">we are all thinking about and redefining power dynamics in our culture</a>.&nbsp;</p><p><a href="https://www.thegothiclibrary.com/gothic-tropes-incest/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Incest is a common trope in horror and other gothic stories</a>, it&nbsp;<a href="https://www.themarysue.com/flowers-in-the-attic-celebrates-40-years-of-being-a-weird-piece-of-teen-sexual-awakening-culture/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">didn’t originate with Flowers in the Attic</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>Don’t forget to&nbsp;<a href="https://shop.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">preorder signed copies of Bombshell from Word in Brooklyn.</a></p><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/7/13/s0347-taboo-romance-interstitial-with-nikki-sloane </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s Taboo Romance week! We’re thrilled to be joined by Nikki Sloane, whose books we’ve adored for years here on FM. We talk about what makes a romance taboo, about why readers are drawn to taboo stories, and about whether taboo romance is empirically erotic. </p><p>Our next read along is Cat Sebastian’s wonderful <em>Unmasked by the Marquess</em>. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3vPJfuf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Amazon</em></a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/unmasked-by-the-marquess/id1239320156" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/unmasked-by-the-marquess-cat-sebastian/1127834372?ean=9780062820655" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/unmasked-by-the-marquess" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780062821607" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! Please follow us on your favorite podcasting app, and if you are up for leaving a rating or review there, we would be very grateful!&nbsp;</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><p>Welcome&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nikkisloane.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nikki Sloane!</a>&nbsp;We discussed her novel&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/5/26/s0238-three-little-mistakes-by-nikki-sloane" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Three Little Mistakes</a>&nbsp;in season two. Her latest release in the Filthy Rich Americans series, The Redemption, won&nbsp;<a href="https://virginiaromancewriters.com/2021-holt-medallion-finalists/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Holt Award</a>&nbsp;from the Virginia Romance Writers Association and has been nominated for the inaugural Vivian Award from the Romance Writers of America.</p><p>We had an episode about&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/4/5/s0333-age-gap-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">age-gap romance</a>, but when the woman is older sometimes we use the phrase Cougar,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.wikihow.com/Know-if-a-Woman-is-a-Cougar" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">which I do not recommend googling!&nbsp;</a></p><p>Taboo romance is difficult to define. But on the episode, we talked about three major ideas: it explores power dynamics, it contains an element of the forbidden, and is makes readers viscerally feel that the relationship is “wrong.” However, Nikki also used the phrase “universal taboos” to describe topics so forbidden--beastality and incest--that they could never be a part of romance.&nbsp;</p><p>In a Florida high school,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/23/us/yearbook-photos-st-johns-girls-altering.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the necklines of women and girls were photoshopped (without their knowledge) if there was too much cleavage.</a></p><p>We’ve been digging the priest taboo since&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thorn_Birds" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Thorn Birds</a>, and it was revived in pop culture by&nbsp;<a href="https://theweek.com/articles/842997/what-fleabags-hot-priest-storyline-gets-right-about-sex-love" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the TV show Fleabag</a>. We discussed&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/11/4/s029-priest-by-sierra-simone" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sierra Simone’s Priest</a>&nbsp;in season two.&nbsp;</p><p>As we reckon with #MeToo,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/03/catharine-mackinnon-what-metoo-has-changed/585313/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">we are all thinking about and redefining power dynamics in our culture</a>.&nbsp;</p><p><a href="https://www.thegothiclibrary.com/gothic-tropes-incest/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Incest is a common trope in horror and other gothic stories</a>, it&nbsp;<a href="https://www.themarysue.com/flowers-in-the-attic-celebrates-40-years-of-being-a-weird-piece-of-teen-sexual-awakening-culture/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">didn’t originate with Flowers in the Attic</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>Don’t forget to&nbsp;<a href="https://shop.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">preorder signed copies of Bombshell from Word in Brooklyn.</a></p><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/7/13/s0347-taboo-romance-interstitial-with-nikki-sloane </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/7/13/s0347-taboo-romance-interstitial-with-nikki-sloane]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:60ed853c43ec04194fd922ca</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2021 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/0f4a822b-3c03-4ab4-ba36-81225c008593/fated-mates-nikki-sloane-taboo-romance.mp3" length="76981352" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:15:39</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>54</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>54</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>It’s Taboo Romance week! We’re thrilled to be joined by Nikki Sloane, whose books we’ve adored for years here on FM. We talk about what makes a romance taboo, about why readers are drawn to taboo stories, and about whether taboo romance is empirically erotic.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-0f4a822b-3c03-4ab4-ba36-81225c008593.json" type="application/json+chapters"/><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="video/youtube" title="S03.47: Taboo Romance with Nikki Sloane"><podcast:source uri="https://youtu.be/aJzO8W56PQ8"/></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>S03.46: Susan Elizabeth Phillips Interview</title><itunes:title>Susan Elizabeth Phillips Interview</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We are so excited to have absolute romance legend Susan Elizabeth Phillips with us to discuss every fangirly question we had for her! We talked about her new book, <em>When Stars Collide</em>, the latest in the Chicago Stars series, about her role in inventing the sports romance, about the opera and the way she thinks about her career after a few decades of writing. We had the BEST time. </p><p>Our next read along, sometime in July, is Cat Sebastian’s wonderful <em>Unmasked by the Marquess</em>. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3vPJfuf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Amazon</em></a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/unmasked-by-the-marquess/id1239320156" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/unmasked-by-the-marquess-cat-sebastian/1127834372?ean=9780062820655" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/unmasked-by-the-marquess" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780062821607" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! Please follow us on your favorite podcasting app, and if you are up for leaving a rating or review there, we would be very grateful!&nbsp;</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome&nbsp;<a href="https://susanelizabethphillips.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Susan Elizabeth Phillips</a>! We talked about an earlier book in the Chicago Stars series,&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/3/30/s0230-nobodys-baby-but-mine-by-susan-elizabeth-phillips-" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nobody’s Baby But Mine</a>&nbsp;in season two.&nbsp;</li><li>Speaking of amazing stories about opera singers, last week,&nbsp;<a href="https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Family/opera-singer-delivers-baby-car-husband-drives/story?id=78635488" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">an opera singer in Pennsylvania gave birth in the car</a>&nbsp;while her husband was driving.&nbsp;</li><li>As it turns out,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.italybyevents.com/en/events/veneto/arena-di-verona-opera-festival/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Opera in Verona</a>&nbsp;is a pretty big deal! If you’re ever in Chicago, go to&nbsp;<a href="https://www.lyricopera.org?gclid=CjwKCAjw_o-HBhAsEiwANqYhp0fmI7tPccKVQrQHzvJzLp63dZtz9fLnhMUUMPauN6KE3U8dDmWCCBoCXiYQAvD_BwE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Lyric Opera</a>&nbsp;and then let Jen know because she wants someone to go with her.&nbsp;<a href="https://ccchoir.org/virtual-performances/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Chicago Children’s Choir</a>&nbsp;is amazing, too and&nbsp;<a href="https://cso.org/about/performers/visiting-artists/chicago-childrens-choir/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">they often collaborate with the CSO and Lyric Opera.</a></li><li>All you need to know about the&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/pnv5iKB2hl4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">totally awesome Chicago Flag</a>, and why it's&nbsp;<a href="https://www.chicagomag.com/city-life/august-2013/chicago-city-flag/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">better than most city flags</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.publishersweekly.com/978-0-8122-1411-6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Dangerous Men, Adventurous Women anthology</a>, which explored the genre from the perspective of romance authors instead of academics, was published in 1992.</li><li><a href="https://www.iheart.com/podcast/256-learning-the-tropes-a-podc-31088432/episode/kiss-an-angel-by-susan-elizabeth-81737263/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen was on Learning the Tropes to talk about Kiss an Angel</a>&nbsp;if you want to hear more about it.&nbsp;</li><li>There&nbsp;<a href="https://interactive.wttw.com/chicago-river-tour/how-chicago-reversed-river-animated" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">are really</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/62220/what-do-they-use-dye-chicago-river-green-st-patricks-day" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">cool things</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bubbly_Creek" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">really bad things</a>&nbsp;about the Chicago River.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://shop.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">You can preorder signed copies of Bombshell</a>&nbsp;from Word Bookstore in Brooklyn.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/7/6/s0346-susan-elizabeth-phillips </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are so excited to have absolute romance legend Susan Elizabeth Phillips with us to discuss every fangirly question we had for her! We talked about her new book, <em>When Stars Collide</em>, the latest in the Chicago Stars series, about her role in inventing the sports romance, about the opera and the way she thinks about her career after a few decades of writing. We had the BEST time. </p><p>Our next read along, sometime in July, is Cat Sebastian’s wonderful <em>Unmasked by the Marquess</em>. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3vPJfuf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Amazon</em></a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/unmasked-by-the-marquess/id1239320156" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/unmasked-by-the-marquess-cat-sebastian/1127834372?ean=9780062820655" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/unmasked-by-the-marquess" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780062821607" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! Please follow us on your favorite podcasting app, and if you are up for leaving a rating or review there, we would be very grateful!&nbsp;</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome&nbsp;<a href="https://susanelizabethphillips.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Susan Elizabeth Phillips</a>! We talked about an earlier book in the Chicago Stars series,&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/3/30/s0230-nobodys-baby-but-mine-by-susan-elizabeth-phillips-" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nobody’s Baby But Mine</a>&nbsp;in season two.&nbsp;</li><li>Speaking of amazing stories about opera singers, last week,&nbsp;<a href="https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Family/opera-singer-delivers-baby-car-husband-drives/story?id=78635488" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">an opera singer in Pennsylvania gave birth in the car</a>&nbsp;while her husband was driving.&nbsp;</li><li>As it turns out,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.italybyevents.com/en/events/veneto/arena-di-verona-opera-festival/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Opera in Verona</a>&nbsp;is a pretty big deal! If you’re ever in Chicago, go to&nbsp;<a href="https://www.lyricopera.org?gclid=CjwKCAjw_o-HBhAsEiwANqYhp0fmI7tPccKVQrQHzvJzLp63dZtz9fLnhMUUMPauN6KE3U8dDmWCCBoCXiYQAvD_BwE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Lyric Opera</a>&nbsp;and then let Jen know because she wants someone to go with her.&nbsp;<a href="https://ccchoir.org/virtual-performances/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Chicago Children’s Choir</a>&nbsp;is amazing, too and&nbsp;<a href="https://cso.org/about/performers/visiting-artists/chicago-childrens-choir/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">they often collaborate with the CSO and Lyric Opera.</a></li><li>All you need to know about the&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/pnv5iKB2hl4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">totally awesome Chicago Flag</a>, and why it's&nbsp;<a href="https://www.chicagomag.com/city-life/august-2013/chicago-city-flag/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">better than most city flags</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.publishersweekly.com/978-0-8122-1411-6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Dangerous Men, Adventurous Women anthology</a>, which explored the genre from the perspective of romance authors instead of academics, was published in 1992.</li><li><a href="https://www.iheart.com/podcast/256-learning-the-tropes-a-podc-31088432/episode/kiss-an-angel-by-susan-elizabeth-81737263/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen was on Learning the Tropes to talk about Kiss an Angel</a>&nbsp;if you want to hear more about it.&nbsp;</li><li>There&nbsp;<a href="https://interactive.wttw.com/chicago-river-tour/how-chicago-reversed-river-animated" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">are really</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/62220/what-do-they-use-dye-chicago-river-green-st-patricks-day" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">cool things</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bubbly_Creek" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">really bad things</a>&nbsp;about the Chicago River.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://shop.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">You can preorder signed copies of Bombshell</a>&nbsp;from Word Bookstore in Brooklyn.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/7/6/s0346-susan-elizabeth-phillips </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/7/6/s0346-susan-elizabeth-phillips]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:60e4892d991f4060d4138872</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/d8c5a76c-001b-4374-86cb-9c178707a727/fm-logo-3000.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2021 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/4d36d64a-df6a-4931-92d4-5455f5712c21/sep-final-revc.mp3" length="70997118" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:08:15</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>53</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>53</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We are so excited to have absolute romance legend Susan Elizabeth Phillips with us to discuss every fangirly question we had for her! We talked about her new book, When Stars Collide, the latest in the Chicago Stars series, about her role in inventing the sports romance, about the opera and the way she thinks about her career after a few decades of writing. We had the BEST time.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-4d36d64a-df6a-4931-92d4-5455f5712c21.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S03.45: Dark Romance: Monsters Need Love, Too.</title><itunes:title>Dark Romance: Monsters Need Love, Too.</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We promised you an episode on Dark Romance and truthfully we’re pretty proud of how well we’ve delivered. We’ve got Kenya Goree-Bell, Nisha Sharma, Joanna Shupe and Jo Brenner with us today to dig deep on this subgenre that we don’t read regularly. We are endlessly grateful for their guidance through this end of the romance pool!&nbsp;</p><p>We talk about what makes a romance “dark,” about how dark romance differs from morality chain and taboo romance, and about why dark romance resonates with so many readers. Oh, and yes, if you’re curious, we fill your TBR pile (obvi).&nbsp;Stay tuned at the end of the episode for additional reflections from Sarah &amp; Jen.</p><p><strong>CONTENT NOTE:</strong> Because Dark Romance can include all sorts of problematic content, we don’t shy away from many of those topics in this episode. Proceed with caution, both in listening and in reading.</p><p><strong>AUDIO NOTE: </strong>Due to countless irregularities, expected and unexpected, the audio in this episode isn’t up to our normal standards. But it sounds fine. </p><p>Our next read along, sometime in July, is Cat Sebastian’s wonderful <em>Unmasked by the Marquess</em>. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3vPJfuf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Amazon</em></a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/unmasked-by-the-marquess/id1239320156" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/unmasked-by-the-marquess-cat-sebastian/1127834372?ean=9780062820655" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/unmasked-by-the-marquess" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780062821607" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! Please follow us on your favorite podcasting app, and if you are up for leaving a rating or review there, we would be very grateful!&nbsp;</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><p>Welcome our panel of dark romance experts:&nbsp;<a href="https://kenyagoreebell.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kenya Goree-Bell</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nisha-sharma.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nisha Sharma</a>,&nbsp;<a href="http://www.joannashupe.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joanna Shupe</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/jo_brenner" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jo Brenner</a>.</p><p><strong>The hallmarks and tenets of Dark Romance</strong></p><ul><li>All dubious consent and non-consent romance is dark romance (although not all dark romance has dubcon or nonconsensual elements).</li><li>It’s about what the HEA is made up of: If the non-aggressor or non-villian moves into the dark (rather than pulling the other into the light), then it would qualify as dark romance.</li><li>Often the aggressor/villain is static, while the non-aggressor finds their light or strength in the new world they exist in. This person does all the work and learns how to navigate a life around the aggressor and their world. These are not stories of love redeeming, but rather of learning to find love and happiness with the person (people) in front of you.</li><li>The characters are suffering from current or past psychological or physical trauma. The non-aggressor represents the last bits of humanity that the aggressor has to hold on to. Dark romance explores a relationship where only one person has strains of humanity and the impact it has on a person without it.</li><li>The evil and violence of the aggressor must take place on the page.</li></ul><br/><p><strong>Some Terms we'll use on this episode</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/women-who-stray/202102/consensual-non-consent-exploring-challenging-boundaries" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Consensual non-consent (non-con)</strong></a><strong>:</strong>&nbsp;is when romantic partners engage “in behaviors that may include role-playing nonconsensual behaviors, or may involve negotiating sexual behaviors where one partner agrees to give up consent during certain behaviors or relationships.” This can include&nbsp;<a href="https://inews.co.uk/opinion/why-some-women-fantasise-about-forceful-sex-and-why-thats-nothing-to-be-ashamed-of-212098" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fantasizing about rape</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.playboy.com/read/how-should-we-think-about-sex-fantasies-in-the-era-of-metoo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">and kidnapping,&nbsp;</a>and&nbsp;<a href="https://thepointmag.com/criticism/rape-fantasies/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lots of women have complicated feelings</a>&nbsp;about these fantasies.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.skyewarren.com/2012/03/29/what-is-dubious-consent/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Dubious consent (dub-con):</strong></a>&nbsp;is the gray area between full, enthusiastic consent and rape. A person hasn't give outright consent to having sex and might not consider it rape; however, some other factor prevents them from saying no.&nbsp;</li><li><strong>The Aggressor:</strong>&nbsp;rather than use hero/heroine, Jo started using aggressor and non-aggressor as a way of talking about chracters who exhibit very non-heroic behavior.&nbsp;</li><li><strong>The skin suit:</strong>&nbsp;What Jen calls the experience of reading a book where she wants&nbsp;<em>more</em>&nbsp;distance between herself and the main characters.</li><li><strong>The Murder Meal:</strong>&nbsp;Sarah noticed that a common trope of dark romance is a meal where blood is shed and people still continue to eat.</li></ul><br/><p><strong>More Notes</strong></p><ul><li>You may have listened to our&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/3/23/s0331-morality-chain-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Morality Chain episode</a>, where we made a&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/FatedMates/status/1374711399453196288?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">graphic explaining how it differs from dark romanc</a>e. Next month,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nikkisloane.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nikki Sloane</a>&nbsp;will join us to discuss taboo romance.&nbsp;</li><li>It’s not&nbsp;<a href="https://screenrant.com/lord-of-the-rings-mordor-details/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mordor</a>&nbsp;unless you’re a hobbit. Sarah is not opposed to elevensies, so it's fine.</li><li>Earlier this year, there was a Saturday Night Live skit about women watching&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/J4RdcE6H4Gs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Murder Show.</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/16/books/review/kate-tuttle-true-crime-women.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Why do women like reading about serial killers?</a>&nbsp;Did you see&nbsp;<a href="https://slate.com/human-interest/2021/06/green-river-killer-gary-ridgway-encounter.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this essay in Slate about a woman who thinks she slept with a man who went on to be a serial killer</a>?</li><li><a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2015/06/game-of-thrones-sexual-violence/396191/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Game of Thrones</a>&nbsp;and it’s penchant for&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2021/05/game-of-thrones-the-handmaids-tale-them-tv-sexual-violence/618782/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sexual violence is still influencing pop culture.&nbsp;</a></li><li>The only thing that’s forbidden in dark romance is cheating, which shows how firmly these books are rooted in the romance genre, as compared to the&nbsp;<a href="https://archive.thinkprogress.org/the-godfather-and-mario-puzo-s-women-6b63f594da31/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">rampant cheating by male characters The Godfather and other mafia movies</a>, but this is often&nbsp;<a href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/evolution-the-self/201411/don-t-call-them-rape-fantasies" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">rooted in obsession</a>&nbsp;rather than a belief in monogamy.&nbsp;</li><li>While there's very little (possibly no) research on readers of dark romance, but there's lots of research on the horror genre. Sarah’s friend&nbsp;<a href="https://www.micolostow.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Micol Ostow</a>, who writes YA horror recommended this essay about&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://www.philipbrophy.com/projects/bodyhorrible/essay.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the "spectacle of the ruined body."</a>&nbsp;Meanwhile, Jen follows&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/RAforAll" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Becky Spratford</a>,&nbsp;<a href="http://raforallhorror.blogspot.com/p/summer-scares.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a librarian and horror expert</a>, who says that one thing romance and horror have in common is they are both “genres of emotion.”</li><li>There’s some&nbsp;<a href="http://bear.warrington.ufl.edu/brenner/mar7588/Papers/leavitt-Psychological%20Science-2011.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">research on horror and spoilers from Jonathan Leavitt &amp; Nicholas Christenfeld</a>&nbsp;which indicates that spoilers might allow people to enjoy a story more fully. Perhaps dark romance readers, regardless of what terrible things happen, can safely continue reading because they know there will be an HEA.</li><li><a href="https://www.duffthepsych.com/triggercontenttrauma/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Why do we like to watch and read media where characters are undergoing trauma?</a>&nbsp;In&nbsp;<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SjNQfz274gKqT9QkdaBXckWcAy39Fwm3/view?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Paradox of Horror: Fear as a Positive...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We promised you an episode on Dark Romance and truthfully we’re pretty proud of how well we’ve delivered. We’ve got Kenya Goree-Bell, Nisha Sharma, Joanna Shupe and Jo Brenner with us today to dig deep on this subgenre that we don’t read regularly. We are endlessly grateful for their guidance through this end of the romance pool!&nbsp;</p><p>We talk about what makes a romance “dark,” about how dark romance differs from morality chain and taboo romance, and about why dark romance resonates with so many readers. Oh, and yes, if you’re curious, we fill your TBR pile (obvi).&nbsp;Stay tuned at the end of the episode for additional reflections from Sarah &amp; Jen.</p><p><strong>CONTENT NOTE:</strong> Because Dark Romance can include all sorts of problematic content, we don’t shy away from many of those topics in this episode. Proceed with caution, both in listening and in reading.</p><p><strong>AUDIO NOTE: </strong>Due to countless irregularities, expected and unexpected, the audio in this episode isn’t up to our normal standards. But it sounds fine. </p><p>Our next read along, sometime in July, is Cat Sebastian’s wonderful <em>Unmasked by the Marquess</em>. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3vPJfuf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Amazon</em></a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/unmasked-by-the-marquess/id1239320156" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/unmasked-by-the-marquess-cat-sebastian/1127834372?ean=9780062820655" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/unmasked-by-the-marquess" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780062821607" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! Please follow us on your favorite podcasting app, and if you are up for leaving a rating or review there, we would be very grateful!&nbsp;</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><p>Welcome our panel of dark romance experts:&nbsp;<a href="https://kenyagoreebell.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kenya Goree-Bell</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nisha-sharma.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nisha Sharma</a>,&nbsp;<a href="http://www.joannashupe.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joanna Shupe</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/jo_brenner" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jo Brenner</a>.</p><p><strong>The hallmarks and tenets of Dark Romance</strong></p><ul><li>All dubious consent and non-consent romance is dark romance (although not all dark romance has dubcon or nonconsensual elements).</li><li>It’s about what the HEA is made up of: If the non-aggressor or non-villian moves into the dark (rather than pulling the other into the light), then it would qualify as dark romance.</li><li>Often the aggressor/villain is static, while the non-aggressor finds their light or strength in the new world they exist in. This person does all the work and learns how to navigate a life around the aggressor and their world. These are not stories of love redeeming, but rather of learning to find love and happiness with the person (people) in front of you.</li><li>The characters are suffering from current or past psychological or physical trauma. The non-aggressor represents the last bits of humanity that the aggressor has to hold on to. Dark romance explores a relationship where only one person has strains of humanity and the impact it has on a person without it.</li><li>The evil and violence of the aggressor must take place on the page.</li></ul><br/><p><strong>Some Terms we'll use on this episode</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/women-who-stray/202102/consensual-non-consent-exploring-challenging-boundaries" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Consensual non-consent (non-con)</strong></a><strong>:</strong>&nbsp;is when romantic partners engage “in behaviors that may include role-playing nonconsensual behaviors, or may involve negotiating sexual behaviors where one partner agrees to give up consent during certain behaviors or relationships.” This can include&nbsp;<a href="https://inews.co.uk/opinion/why-some-women-fantasise-about-forceful-sex-and-why-thats-nothing-to-be-ashamed-of-212098" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fantasizing about rape</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.playboy.com/read/how-should-we-think-about-sex-fantasies-in-the-era-of-metoo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">and kidnapping,&nbsp;</a>and&nbsp;<a href="https://thepointmag.com/criticism/rape-fantasies/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lots of women have complicated feelings</a>&nbsp;about these fantasies.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.skyewarren.com/2012/03/29/what-is-dubious-consent/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Dubious consent (dub-con):</strong></a>&nbsp;is the gray area between full, enthusiastic consent and rape. A person hasn't give outright consent to having sex and might not consider it rape; however, some other factor prevents them from saying no.&nbsp;</li><li><strong>The Aggressor:</strong>&nbsp;rather than use hero/heroine, Jo started using aggressor and non-aggressor as a way of talking about chracters who exhibit very non-heroic behavior.&nbsp;</li><li><strong>The skin suit:</strong>&nbsp;What Jen calls the experience of reading a book where she wants&nbsp;<em>more</em>&nbsp;distance between herself and the main characters.</li><li><strong>The Murder Meal:</strong>&nbsp;Sarah noticed that a common trope of dark romance is a meal where blood is shed and people still continue to eat.</li></ul><br/><p><strong>More Notes</strong></p><ul><li>You may have listened to our&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/3/23/s0331-morality-chain-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Morality Chain episode</a>, where we made a&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/FatedMates/status/1374711399453196288?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">graphic explaining how it differs from dark romanc</a>e. Next month,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nikkisloane.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nikki Sloane</a>&nbsp;will join us to discuss taboo romance.&nbsp;</li><li>It’s not&nbsp;<a href="https://screenrant.com/lord-of-the-rings-mordor-details/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mordor</a>&nbsp;unless you’re a hobbit. Sarah is not opposed to elevensies, so it's fine.</li><li>Earlier this year, there was a Saturday Night Live skit about women watching&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/J4RdcE6H4Gs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Murder Show.</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/16/books/review/kate-tuttle-true-crime-women.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Why do women like reading about serial killers?</a>&nbsp;Did you see&nbsp;<a href="https://slate.com/human-interest/2021/06/green-river-killer-gary-ridgway-encounter.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this essay in Slate about a woman who thinks she slept with a man who went on to be a serial killer</a>?</li><li><a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2015/06/game-of-thrones-sexual-violence/396191/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Game of Thrones</a>&nbsp;and it’s penchant for&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2021/05/game-of-thrones-the-handmaids-tale-them-tv-sexual-violence/618782/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sexual violence is still influencing pop culture.&nbsp;</a></li><li>The only thing that’s forbidden in dark romance is cheating, which shows how firmly these books are rooted in the romance genre, as compared to the&nbsp;<a href="https://archive.thinkprogress.org/the-godfather-and-mario-puzo-s-women-6b63f594da31/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">rampant cheating by male characters The Godfather and other mafia movies</a>, but this is often&nbsp;<a href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/evolution-the-self/201411/don-t-call-them-rape-fantasies" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">rooted in obsession</a>&nbsp;rather than a belief in monogamy.&nbsp;</li><li>While there's very little (possibly no) research on readers of dark romance, but there's lots of research on the horror genre. Sarah’s friend&nbsp;<a href="https://www.micolostow.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Micol Ostow</a>, who writes YA horror recommended this essay about&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://www.philipbrophy.com/projects/bodyhorrible/essay.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the "spectacle of the ruined body."</a>&nbsp;Meanwhile, Jen follows&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/RAforAll" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Becky Spratford</a>,&nbsp;<a href="http://raforallhorror.blogspot.com/p/summer-scares.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a librarian and horror expert</a>, who says that one thing romance and horror have in common is they are both “genres of emotion.”</li><li>There’s some&nbsp;<a href="http://bear.warrington.ufl.edu/brenner/mar7588/Papers/leavitt-Psychological%20Science-2011.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">research on horror and spoilers from Jonathan Leavitt &amp; Nicholas Christenfeld</a>&nbsp;which indicates that spoilers might allow people to enjoy a story more fully. Perhaps dark romance readers, regardless of what terrible things happen, can safely continue reading because they know there will be an HEA.</li><li><a href="https://www.duffthepsych.com/triggercontenttrauma/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Why do we like to watch and read media where characters are undergoing trauma?</a>&nbsp;In&nbsp;<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SjNQfz274gKqT9QkdaBXckWcAy39Fwm3/view?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Paradox of Horror: Fear as a Positive Emotion,</a>&nbsp;Katerina Bantinaki explains how readers experience reading about fear and trauma. Related: [(Why) Do You Like Scary Movies? By G. Neil Martin.&nbsp;</li><li>A highly gendered kind of world exists in many m/f Dark Romances, and the article&nbsp;<a href="http://users.clas.ufl.edu/burt/paranoid70scinema/HerBodyHimself.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Her Body, Himself: Gender in Slasher Films by Carol Clover</a>&nbsp;explores how similar themes play out in horror movies. As Nisha said, there are queer and polyamarous dark romance and a few the panel recommends are&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3qzpyG4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Soul Survivor by Daniel de Lorne</a>, the&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/35YFdp9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wicked Villains Series by Katee Robert</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3w0wNYF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Trouble</a>&nbsp;or the&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3hjxffp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Darkness trilogy</a>&nbsp;by Nora Ash, and&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/35YjUnD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Manipulate</a>&nbsp;by Pam Godwin.</li><li><a href="https://www.healthline.com/health/mental-health/stockholm-syndrome" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stockholm Syndrome</a>&nbsp;isn’t real,&nbsp;<a href="https://goat.com.au/pop-culture/everyone-just-got-a-crash-course-in-how-sexism-created-stockholm-syndrome/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">quelle surprise</a>, but it still a popular idea in pop culture of all kinds. Many dark romance novels show characters using&nbsp;<a href="https://positivepsychology.com/maladaptive-coping/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">extreme or maladaptive coping strategies&nbsp;</a>in an attempt to heal themselves or others without the help of therapists or medicine,&nbsp;<a href="https://mhanational.org/issues/state-mental-health-america" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a particularly American problem since so few people have adequate (if any) coverage for mental health.</a></li><li>Dark romance runs long, they’re all “Zack Snyder cut” books. We speculated that there are two reasons for the length of many of these books: </li><li>1) The books are long because the trauma on page must have an equal or greater redemption arc. Readers must believe that the non-agressor has fully accepted the bad deeds of the aggressor in order to believe the HEA. </li><li>2) Many of these books are on KU, which means authors are getting paid by the page. Like Charles Dickens, the incentive is to write longer to increase their pay.</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/6/19/s0345-dark-romance-interstitial]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:60ce85f9beb02125730b8b88</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2021 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/b73a9ee4-0778-4769-9c3c-c0fd08a10bcc/fated-mates-dark-romance-final.mp3" length="111326148" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:51:38</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>52</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>52</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We promised you an episode on Dark Romance and truthfully we’re pretty proud of how well we’ve delivered. We’ve got Kenya Goree-Bell, Nisha Sharma, Joanna Shupe and Jo Brenner with us today to dig deep on this subgenre that we don’t read regularly. We are endlessly grateful for their guidance through this end of the romance pool! 

We talk about what makes a romance “dark,” about how dark romance differs from morality chain and taboo romance, and about why dark romance resonates with so many readers. Oh, and yes, if you’re curious, we fill your TBR pile (obvi). Stay tuned at the end of the episode for additional reflections from Sarah &amp; Jen.

CONTENT NOTE: Because Dark Romance can include all sorts of problematic content, we don’t shy away from many of those topics in this episode. Proceed with caution, both in listening and in reading.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-b73a9ee4-0778-4769-9c3c-c0fd08a10bcc.json" type="application/json+chapters"/><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="video/youtube" title="S03.45: Dark Romance: Monsters Need Love, Too."><podcast:source uri="https://youtu.be/HjTRWktWd_s"/></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>S03.44: The Stage Dive Series by Kylie Scott: #HeroesWhoEat</title><itunes:title>The Stage Dive Series by Kylie Scott: #HeroesWhoEat</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We’re back to read alongs this week! We’re big Kylie Scott fans here at Fated Mates, and we talked about her Stage Dive series all the way back in Season One on our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/5/rock-star-romance-interstitial-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">very first interstitial</a>, and now we’re doing a deep dive. We’d intended to do book three, <em>Lead</em>, but we ended up talking about all four, and honestly, rereading this was pretty great for us. We hope it was great for you, too. </p><p>Our next read along, sometime in July, is Cat Sebastian’s wonderful <em>Unmasked by the Marquess</em>. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3vPJfuf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Amazon</em></a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/unmasked-by-the-marquess/id1239320156" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/unmasked-by-the-marquess-cat-sebastian/1127834372?ean=9780062820655" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/unmasked-by-the-marquess" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780062821607" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>.</p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! Please follow us on your favorite podcasting app, and if you are up for leaving a rating or review there, we would be very grateful!</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Sarah has a book coming on August 24th! Preorder&nbsp;<a href="http://www.sarahmaclean.net/bombshell" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Bombshell</em></a>&nbsp;now. You won't regret it.</li><li>Everyone is struggling with&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/06/style/pandemic-dressing-takes-a-dark-turn.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">getting dressed</a>&nbsp;again.&nbsp;</li><li>It’s a 1001 in the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.1001darknights.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">1001 Dark Nights series</a>&nbsp;as an homage and allusion to&nbsp;<a href="https://artuk.org/discover/stories/scheherazade-the-story-of-a-storyteller" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scheherazade</a>, the story-teller of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.learner.org/series/invitation-to-world-literature/the-thousand-and-one-nights/the-thousand-and-one-nights-map-timeline/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Arabian Nights.&nbsp;</a></li><li>We also love the&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/1/20/s0220-managed-by-kristen-callihan" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">VIP series by Kristen Callihan</a>, and the 4th book in that series,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3cVbYHy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Exposed</a>, comes out next month, July 2021.</li><li>On our upcoming episode with Susan Elizabeth Phillips, where she told us that back in the day, “rock stars, actors, and athletes” were not allowed in the early days of romance. We aren’t sure why, but we speculate that it was fear of putting&nbsp;<a href="https://www.psypost.org/2017/10/scientists-examine-truth-behind-sex-drugs-rock-roll-49834" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“sex, drugs, and rock and roll”</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/R3HdC1sUy88" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">other high roller lifestyles</a>&nbsp;on page.&nbsp;</li><li>If you want to join the OSRBC group (Old School Romance Book Club) on Facebook, make sure to answer the three questions if you want to be admitted.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/authorMsBev/status/967163990680965120?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Beverly Jenkins liked the Stage Dive series, too.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.andiarndt.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Andi Arndt</a>&nbsp;is the narrator of all Kylie’s books, including the entire Stage Dive series, and Jen thinks she is terrific.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1393330487670755330?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Captains’ Vegas Vows</a>&nbsp;has a similar set up to Lick: waking up married in Vegas, and only one of them remembered what happened.&nbsp;</li><li>“Retcon” is a word that started out as shorthand for retroactive continuity, and here’s&nbsp;<a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/retcon-history-and-meaning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a piece from Merriam-Webster explaining its remarkable elasticity.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/article/hyperemesis-gravidarum.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hyperemesis gravidarum</a>&nbsp;is the medical term for severe morning sickness, which affects about one percent of pregnant people.&nbsp;</li><li>DC comics claims that&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vulture.com/2021/06/batman-cant-go-down-on-catwoman-dc-says.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Batman doesn’t go down</a>, but&nbsp;<a href="https://www.themarysue.com/dc-batman-oral-sex-cmon-now/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the internet</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/WhitneyPuppy/status/1404554238160633861?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">everyone else</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.letseatcake.com/batman-going-down-catwoman-funny-tweets/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">on twitter</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/ZackSnyder/status/1405702805948538881?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1405702805948538881%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&amp;ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffpost.com%2Fentry%2Fzack-snyder-batman-catwoman-debate_n_60cc6ff7e4b0e08c64b97409" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">even Zach Snyder</a>&nbsp;disagred. But in all seriousness, maybe it's just another interesting data point about America turning back towards the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=93301189" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hays Code</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.belfercenter.org/publication/sexual-censorship-social-media" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">continuing to</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/06/15/if-even-superheroes-cant-have-fun-sex-what-hope-is-there-rest-us/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">remove sex from all kinds of media</a>.</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/SXbUNuTQJds" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Thelma and Louise</a>&nbsp;does have&nbsp;<a href="https://filmschoolrejects.com/thelma-and-louise-freeze-frame/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a great ending</a>, you can’t argue with that. And since 2021 is the 30th anniversary of the film’s release, there are lots of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-57543891" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">interesting</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://variety.com/2021/scene/news/geena-davis-susan-sarandon-thelma-and-louise-30-anniversary-1235000909/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">retrospectives</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/film/2021/may/24/thelma-and-louis-susan-sarandon-geen-davis" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">on the movie.</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desmond_Morris" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Desmond Morris</a>&nbsp;is an English zoologist who outlined the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.noblechoices.org/12-stages-of-intimacy/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">12 stages of intimacy</a>&nbsp;-- hey, humans are animals, too!&nbsp;</li><li>Our July interviews will be with&nbsp;<a href="https://susanelizabethphillips.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Susan Elizabeth Phillips</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nicolayoon.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nicola Yoon</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nikkisloane.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nikki Sloane</a>. Our July read-along is&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3xyC9eR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Unmasked by the Marquess</a>&nbsp;by Cat Sebastian.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/6/19/s0344-the-stage-dive-series-by-kylie-scott </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We’re back to read alongs this week! We’re big Kylie Scott fans here at Fated Mates, and we talked about her Stage Dive series all the way back in Season One on our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/5/rock-star-romance-interstitial-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">very first interstitial</a>, and now we’re doing a deep dive. We’d intended to do book three, <em>Lead</em>, but we ended up talking about all four, and honestly, rereading this was pretty great for us. We hope it was great for you, too. </p><p>Our next read along, sometime in July, is Cat Sebastian’s wonderful <em>Unmasked by the Marquess</em>. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3vPJfuf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Amazon</em></a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/unmasked-by-the-marquess/id1239320156" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/unmasked-by-the-marquess-cat-sebastian/1127834372?ean=9780062820655" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/unmasked-by-the-marquess" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780062821607" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>.</p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! Please follow us on your favorite podcasting app, and if you are up for leaving a rating or review there, we would be very grateful!</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Sarah has a book coming on August 24th! Preorder&nbsp;<a href="http://www.sarahmaclean.net/bombshell" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Bombshell</em></a>&nbsp;now. You won't regret it.</li><li>Everyone is struggling with&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/06/style/pandemic-dressing-takes-a-dark-turn.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">getting dressed</a>&nbsp;again.&nbsp;</li><li>It’s a 1001 in the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.1001darknights.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">1001 Dark Nights series</a>&nbsp;as an homage and allusion to&nbsp;<a href="https://artuk.org/discover/stories/scheherazade-the-story-of-a-storyteller" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scheherazade</a>, the story-teller of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.learner.org/series/invitation-to-world-literature/the-thousand-and-one-nights/the-thousand-and-one-nights-map-timeline/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Arabian Nights.&nbsp;</a></li><li>We also love the&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/1/20/s0220-managed-by-kristen-callihan" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">VIP series by Kristen Callihan</a>, and the 4th book in that series,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3cVbYHy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Exposed</a>, comes out next month, July 2021.</li><li>On our upcoming episode with Susan Elizabeth Phillips, where she told us that back in the day, “rock stars, actors, and athletes” were not allowed in the early days of romance. We aren’t sure why, but we speculate that it was fear of putting&nbsp;<a href="https://www.psypost.org/2017/10/scientists-examine-truth-behind-sex-drugs-rock-roll-49834" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“sex, drugs, and rock and roll”</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/R3HdC1sUy88" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">other high roller lifestyles</a>&nbsp;on page.&nbsp;</li><li>If you want to join the OSRBC group (Old School Romance Book Club) on Facebook, make sure to answer the three questions if you want to be admitted.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/authorMsBev/status/967163990680965120?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Beverly Jenkins liked the Stage Dive series, too.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.andiarndt.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Andi Arndt</a>&nbsp;is the narrator of all Kylie’s books, including the entire Stage Dive series, and Jen thinks she is terrific.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1393330487670755330?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Captains’ Vegas Vows</a>&nbsp;has a similar set up to Lick: waking up married in Vegas, and only one of them remembered what happened.&nbsp;</li><li>“Retcon” is a word that started out as shorthand for retroactive continuity, and here’s&nbsp;<a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/retcon-history-and-meaning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a piece from Merriam-Webster explaining its remarkable elasticity.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/article/hyperemesis-gravidarum.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hyperemesis gravidarum</a>&nbsp;is the medical term for severe morning sickness, which affects about one percent of pregnant people.&nbsp;</li><li>DC comics claims that&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vulture.com/2021/06/batman-cant-go-down-on-catwoman-dc-says.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Batman doesn’t go down</a>, but&nbsp;<a href="https://www.themarysue.com/dc-batman-oral-sex-cmon-now/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the internet</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/WhitneyPuppy/status/1404554238160633861?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">everyone else</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.letseatcake.com/batman-going-down-catwoman-funny-tweets/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">on twitter</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/ZackSnyder/status/1405702805948538881?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1405702805948538881%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&amp;ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffpost.com%2Fentry%2Fzack-snyder-batman-catwoman-debate_n_60cc6ff7e4b0e08c64b97409" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">even Zach Snyder</a>&nbsp;disagred. But in all seriousness, maybe it's just another interesting data point about America turning back towards the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=93301189" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hays Code</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.belfercenter.org/publication/sexual-censorship-social-media" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">continuing to</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/06/15/if-even-superheroes-cant-have-fun-sex-what-hope-is-there-rest-us/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">remove sex from all kinds of media</a>.</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/SXbUNuTQJds" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Thelma and Louise</a>&nbsp;does have&nbsp;<a href="https://filmschoolrejects.com/thelma-and-louise-freeze-frame/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a great ending</a>, you can’t argue with that. And since 2021 is the 30th anniversary of the film’s release, there are lots of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-57543891" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">interesting</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://variety.com/2021/scene/news/geena-davis-susan-sarandon-thelma-and-louise-30-anniversary-1235000909/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">retrospectives</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/film/2021/may/24/thelma-and-louis-susan-sarandon-geen-davis" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">on the movie.</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desmond_Morris" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Desmond Morris</a>&nbsp;is an English zoologist who outlined the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.noblechoices.org/12-stages-of-intimacy/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">12 stages of intimacy</a>&nbsp;-- hey, humans are animals, too!&nbsp;</li><li>Our July interviews will be with&nbsp;<a href="https://susanelizabethphillips.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Susan Elizabeth Phillips</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nicolayoon.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nicola Yoon</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nikkisloane.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nikki Sloane</a>. Our July read-along is&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3xyC9eR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Unmasked by the Marquess</a>&nbsp;by Cat Sebastian.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/6/19/s0344-the-stage-dive-series-by-kylie-scott </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/6/19/s0344-the-stage-dive-series-by-kylie-scott]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:60ce8587f418333713f9a389</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2021 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/8c9215a9-3e72-4eef-9e1a-f057edb80da7/fated-mates-lead-final-reva.mp3" length="81265768" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:21:04</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>51</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>51</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We’re back to read alongs this week! We’re big Kylie Scott fans here at Fated Mates, and we talked about her Stage Dive series all the way back in Season One on our very first interstitial, and now we’re doing a deep dive. We’d intended to do book three, Lead, but we ended up talking about all four, and honestly, rereading this was pretty great for us. We hope it was great for you, too. 

Our next read along, sometime in July, is Cat Sebastian’s wonderful Unmasked by the Marquess. Get it at Amazon, Apple Books, B&amp;N, Kobo, or Bookshop.org.

Thank you, as always, for listening! Please follow us on your favorite podcasting app, and if you are up for leaving a rating or review there, we would be very grateful!

Show Notes

Sarah has a book coming on August 24th! Preorder Bombshell now. You won&apos;t regret it.


Everyone is struggling with getting dressed again. 


It’s a 1001 in the 1001 Dark Nights series as an homage and allusion to Scheherazade, the story-teller of the Arabian Nights. 


We also love the VIP series by Kristen Callihan, and the 4th book in that series, Exposed, comes out next month, July 2021.


On our upcoming episode with Susan Elizabeth Phillips, where she told us that back in the day, “rock stars, actors, and athletes” were not allowed in the early days of romance. We aren’t sure why, but we speculate that it was fear of putting “sex, drugs, and rock and roll” and other high roller lifestyles on page. 


If you want to join the OSRBC group (Old School Romance Book Club) on Facebook, make sure to answer the three questions if you want to be admitted.


Beverly Jenkins liked the Stage Dive series, too.


Andi Arndt is the narrator of all Kylie’s books, including the entire Stage Dive series, and Jen thinks she is terrific. 


The Captains’ Vegas Vows has a similar set up to Lick: waking up married in Vegas, and only one of them remembered what happened. 


“Retcon” is a word that started out as shorthand for retroactive continuity, and here’s a piece from Merriam-Webster explaining its remarkable elasticity.


Hyperemesis gravidarum is the medical term for severe morning sickness, which affects about one percent of pregnant people. 


DC comics claims that Batman doesn’t go down, but the internet and everyone else on twitter and even Zach Snyder disagred. But in all seriousness, maybe it&apos;s just another interesting data point about America turning back towards the Hays Code and continuing to remove sex from all kinds of media.

Thelma and Louise does have a great ending, you can’t argue with that. And since 2021 is the 30th anniversary of the film’s release, there are lots of interesting retrospectives on the movie.
 

Desmond Morris is an English zoologist who outlined the 12 stages of intimacy -- hey, humans are animals, too! 


Our July interviews will be with Susan Elizabeth Phillips, Nicola Yoon, and Nikki Sloane. Our July read-along is Unmasked by the Marquess by Cat Sebastian.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-8c9215a9-3e72-4eef-9e1a-f057edb80da7.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S03.43: Writers in Romance with Tia Williams</title><itunes:title>Writers in Romance with Tia Williams</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We’re welcoming Tia Williams, author of the wonderful <em>Seven Days in June,</em> to talk about her delicious book, about writing writers, about romances set in New York City, about her youth as a romance reader, and about Drew Barrymore as inspiration, and about <em>The Joan Wilder?!</em>. </p><p>Our next read along is Kylie Scott’s <em>Lead</em>, one of our longtime favorites. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3fDXde2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/lead/id827595467" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/lead-kylie-scott/1117685321" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/lead-7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781250052384" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>! Get the others in the series, too, while you’re at it, because you’ll probably want to read the whole thing. </p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! Please follow us on your favorite podcasting app, and if you are up for leaving a rating or review there, we would be very grateful! </p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>If you want a signed copy of Bombshell along with a Fated Mates sticker,&nbsp;<a href="https://shop.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">preorder from Word Bookstore in Brooklyn.&nbsp;</a></li><li>Welcome&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/TiaW_Writes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tia Williams!</a>&nbsp;Her new release,&nbsp;<a href="https://ew.com/books/whats-in-a-page-tia-williams/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Seven Days in June</a>, is&nbsp;<a href="https://reesesbookclub.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Reese’s Book Club pick for June</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ebony.com/entertainment/author-tia-williams-seven-days-in-june-redefines-blacklovegoals-just-in-time-for-summer/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">In this article in Ebony, Tia talks about her commitment to putting Black love on page and creating rich, interesting lives for Shane and Eva.&nbsp;</a></li><li>Eva’s website is Eva<a href="https://youtu.be/U9BA6fFGMjI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MercyMe</a>, and her vampire hero is Sebastian. And according to Twitter,&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/nickofthebooks/status/1399810259728863237?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">all romance Sebastians are good Sebatians</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3xj9nii" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Slow Heat in Heaven by Sandra Brown</a>&nbsp;is quite the read, and we talked about it on&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/4/28/s0234-texas-chase-by-sandra-brown" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Texas!Chase episode.</a></li><li>The question of “what if Romeo and Juliet met as grown-ups” was also the idea behind Kate Clayborn’s Love at First, and&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/2/24/s0327-retellings-in-romance-novels-with-kate-clayborn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">we talked about it with Kate on an episode about retellings in romance</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Drew Barrymore’s memoir&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3q4L7y3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Little Girl Lost</a>&nbsp;is the story of her childhood in Hollywood, and definitely was hugely influential and shocking, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/15/magazine/letter-of-recommendation-drew-barrymores-little-girl-lost.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">it still is worth a read</a>&nbsp;if you can find a copy. It hasn't been digitized!&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/8/12/representation-of-trauma-survivors-in-romance-adriana-herrera-and-jen-prokop" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen talked to Adriana Herrera</a>&nbsp;about how people might self-harm, cut, and use other extreme coping mechanisms if they have experienced trauma.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://brooklynbookfestival.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Brooklyn Book Festival</a>&nbsp;is not for the faint of heart.&nbsp;</li><li>More about the quote&nbsp;<a href="https://quoteinvestigator.com/2014/11/05/hard-writing/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“Easy reading is damn hard writing.”</a></li><li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/series/40687-argeneau" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Argeneau series by Lynsay Sands</a>&nbsp;started with started with A Quick Bite in 2005, and book 33,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3gq4KgT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mile High with a Vampire</a>&nbsp;comes out in Sept of 2021.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@lauryns_library/video/6959176069882694918?is_copy_url=0&amp;is_from_webapp=v1&amp;sender_device=pc&amp;sender_web_id=6908124436122043910" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Want to watch that TikTok about The Unhoneymooners?&nbsp;</a></li><li>Romancing the Stone is a great movie from the 80s, and “The Joan Wilder!?”&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/AQHRizks1sQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">is a line from the movie.</a>&nbsp;And, friend of the pod Linda&nbsp;<a href="https://www.etsy.com/listing/950891151/the-joan-wilder-romancing-the-stone-tee" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">has a t-shirt you might like</a>. What’s looking like a great movie with a similar set up is&nbsp;<a href="https://collider.com/lost-city-of-d-image-sandra-bullock-channing-tatum/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Lost City of D</a>&nbsp;with Channing Tatum and Sandra Bullock.&nbsp;</li><li>Next week, we’ll be discussing&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2S2UDFs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lead (and the other books in the Stage Dive series) by Kylie Scott.</a></li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/6/13/s0343-writers-in-romance-interstitial-with-tia-williams </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We’re welcoming Tia Williams, author of the wonderful <em>Seven Days in June,</em> to talk about her delicious book, about writing writers, about romances set in New York City, about her youth as a romance reader, and about Drew Barrymore as inspiration, and about <em>The Joan Wilder?!</em>. </p><p>Our next read along is Kylie Scott’s <em>Lead</em>, one of our longtime favorites. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3fDXde2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/lead/id827595467" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/lead-kylie-scott/1117685321" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/lead-7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781250052384" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>! Get the others in the series, too, while you’re at it, because you’ll probably want to read the whole thing. </p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! Please follow us on your favorite podcasting app, and if you are up for leaving a rating or review there, we would be very grateful! </p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>If you want a signed copy of Bombshell along with a Fated Mates sticker,&nbsp;<a href="https://shop.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">preorder from Word Bookstore in Brooklyn.&nbsp;</a></li><li>Welcome&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/TiaW_Writes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tia Williams!</a>&nbsp;Her new release,&nbsp;<a href="https://ew.com/books/whats-in-a-page-tia-williams/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Seven Days in June</a>, is&nbsp;<a href="https://reesesbookclub.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Reese’s Book Club pick for June</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ebony.com/entertainment/author-tia-williams-seven-days-in-june-redefines-blacklovegoals-just-in-time-for-summer/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">In this article in Ebony, Tia talks about her commitment to putting Black love on page and creating rich, interesting lives for Shane and Eva.&nbsp;</a></li><li>Eva’s website is Eva<a href="https://youtu.be/U9BA6fFGMjI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MercyMe</a>, and her vampire hero is Sebastian. And according to Twitter,&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/nickofthebooks/status/1399810259728863237?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">all romance Sebastians are good Sebatians</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3xj9nii" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Slow Heat in Heaven by Sandra Brown</a>&nbsp;is quite the read, and we talked about it on&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/4/28/s0234-texas-chase-by-sandra-brown" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Texas!Chase episode.</a></li><li>The question of “what if Romeo and Juliet met as grown-ups” was also the idea behind Kate Clayborn’s Love at First, and&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/2/24/s0327-retellings-in-romance-novels-with-kate-clayborn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">we talked about it with Kate on an episode about retellings in romance</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Drew Barrymore’s memoir&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3q4L7y3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Little Girl Lost</a>&nbsp;is the story of her childhood in Hollywood, and definitely was hugely influential and shocking, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/15/magazine/letter-of-recommendation-drew-barrymores-little-girl-lost.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">it still is worth a read</a>&nbsp;if you can find a copy. It hasn't been digitized!&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/8/12/representation-of-trauma-survivors-in-romance-adriana-herrera-and-jen-prokop" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen talked to Adriana Herrera</a>&nbsp;about how people might self-harm, cut, and use other extreme coping mechanisms if they have experienced trauma.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://brooklynbookfestival.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Brooklyn Book Festival</a>&nbsp;is not for the faint of heart.&nbsp;</li><li>More about the quote&nbsp;<a href="https://quoteinvestigator.com/2014/11/05/hard-writing/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“Easy reading is damn hard writing.”</a></li><li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/series/40687-argeneau" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Argeneau series by Lynsay Sands</a>&nbsp;started with started with A Quick Bite in 2005, and book 33,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3gq4KgT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mile High with a Vampire</a>&nbsp;comes out in Sept of 2021.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@lauryns_library/video/6959176069882694918?is_copy_url=0&amp;is_from_webapp=v1&amp;sender_device=pc&amp;sender_web_id=6908124436122043910" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Want to watch that TikTok about The Unhoneymooners?&nbsp;</a></li><li>Romancing the Stone is a great movie from the 80s, and “The Joan Wilder!?”&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/AQHRizks1sQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">is a line from the movie.</a>&nbsp;And, friend of the pod Linda&nbsp;<a href="https://www.etsy.com/listing/950891151/the-joan-wilder-romancing-the-stone-tee" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">has a t-shirt you might like</a>. What’s looking like a great movie with a similar set up is&nbsp;<a href="https://collider.com/lost-city-of-d-image-sandra-bullock-channing-tatum/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Lost City of D</a>&nbsp;with Channing Tatum and Sandra Bullock.&nbsp;</li><li>Next week, we’ll be discussing&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2S2UDFs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lead (and the other books in the Stage Dive series) by Kylie Scott.</a></li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/6/13/s0343-writers-in-romance-interstitial-with-tia-williams </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/6/13/s0343-writers-in-romance-interstitial-with-tia-williams]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:60c6120eb649cd1c43eae060</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2021 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/e57d51ab-adc2-4032-95d1-fa541f0fcca5/fated-mates-tia-williams-final-revb.mp3" length="74475908" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:11:24</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>50</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>50</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We’re welcoming Tia Williams, author of the wonderful Seven Days in June, to talk about her delicious book, about writing writers, about romances set in New York City, about her youth as a romance reader, and about Drew Barrymore as inspiration, and about The Joan Wilder?!.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-e57d51ab-adc2-4032-95d1-fa541f0fcca5.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S03.42: Fantasy Romance with Zoraida Córdova</title><itunes:title>Fantasy Romance with Zoraida Córdova</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This week, Zoraida Córdova (aka Zoey Castille) joins us to talk about fantasy romance and why it is so hard to find it in the romance pool. We talk about speculative fiction, high fantasy, low fantasy, urban fantasy, contemporary fantasy, paranormal romance and more, all while trying to figure out just what makes something fantasy and not paranormal (we think we’ve cracked the code). We also talk world building, about maps, and about merman junk.</p><p>Our next read along is Kylie Scott’s <em>Lead</em>, one of our longtime favorites. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3fDXde2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/lead/id827595467" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/lead-kylie-scott/1117685321" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/lead-7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781250052384" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>! Get the others in the series, too, while you’re at it, because you’ll probably want to read the whole thing. </p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! Please follow us on your favorite podcasting app, and if you are up for leaving a rating or review there, we would be very grateful! </p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome&nbsp;<a href="https://zoraidacordova.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Zoraida Córdova!</a>&nbsp;Zoraida writes MG, YA, and adult speculative fiction, and also romance under the name Zoey Castile.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/travel/puerto-rico-history-and-heritage-13990189/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Puerto Rico is a US territory</a>&nbsp;and residents of the island are American citizens.</li><li><a href="https://advancedmixology.com/blogs/art-of-mixology/why-use-copper-mug-moscow-mules" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Why Moscow Mules are served in copper mugs.</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/normajeanesays" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">We love Norma Perez-Hernandez</a>&nbsp;who is&nbsp;<a href="https://www.boricuareads.com/vamos-a-hablar/vamos-a-hablar-lets-talk-interview-with-norma-perez-hernandez" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">an amazing, exuberant editor at Kensington</a>, and if you don’t follow her on Twitter she should. Norma also was on the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/people/article/84588-pw-star-watch-2020-honorees.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2020 Publisher's Weekly Star Watch</a>&nbsp;List.&nbsp;</li><li>Zoraida’s book&nbsp;<em>The Vicious Deep</em>&nbsp;answers the age-old question of “where does it go,” a similar answer is in&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/30/movies/the-shape-of-water-review-guillermo-del-toro.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Guillermo del Toro's movie&nbsp;<em>The Shape of Water</em>.&nbsp;</a></li><li><a href="https://bookriot.com/what-is-speculative-fiction/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Speculative fiction asks the question “what if”</a>&nbsp;and is the big umbrella category for science fiction, fantasy, urban fantasy (now Black authors in particular suggest we rename this contemporary fantasy), and paranormal.&nbsp;</li><li>Reading strategies are for everyone:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.tor.com/2019/03/19/what-does-a-fantasy-map-look-like/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">We love maps in fantasy</a>, so why not in contemporary fiction?</li><li><a href="https://www.firstdraftpod.com/audio-episodes/2021/5/6/victoria-aveyard" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Victoria Avyeard was on Sarah Enni's First Draft podcast</a>&nbsp;talking about world building.</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/XevCvCLdKCU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Hero’s Journey</a>, or maybe&nbsp;<a href="https://heroinejourneys.com/heroines-journey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the heroine’s journey</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/nk-jemisin-how-to-write-science-fiction-wired25/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">NK Jemisin’s lecture</a>&nbsp;about&nbsp;<a href="https://nkjemisin.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/WDWebinar.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the cultural iceberg</a>&nbsp;shows writers how to build a world that goes beyond what’s on the surface.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/necromancydrew/status/1393978104004153353?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">An interesting thread from a YA librarian</a>, and another from&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/_ElizabethMay/status/1394579492715339781?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">author Elizabeth May</a>, about why and how romance plots in SFF are pushed into YA.&nbsp;</li><li>Zoraida hosts a writing podcast with Dhonielle Clayton called&nbsp;<a href="https://deadlinecity.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Deadline City.</a></li><li>Relevant music perormed by:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.twintemple.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twin Temple</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://marikevandijk.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Marike van Dijk</a>&nbsp;+&nbsp;<a href="https://myspace.com/katellkeineg/music/songs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Katell Keineg</a>,&nbsp;<a href="http://kingmissile.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">King Missile</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Octagon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dr. Octagon</a>, and Led Zeppelin. Listen to the full&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6QWZy7vo4Dw9eS733PJj1U?si=9d8e0542a2d74ff5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Music playlist</a>&nbsp;on Spotify.&nbsp;</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Zoraida Córdova (aka Zoey Castille) joins us to talk about fantasy romance and why it is so hard to find it in the romance pool. We talk about speculative fiction, high fantasy, low fantasy, urban fantasy, contemporary fantasy, paranormal romance and more, all while trying to figure out just what makes something fantasy and not paranormal (we think we’ve cracked the code). We also talk world building, about maps, and about merman junk.</p><p>Our next read along is Kylie Scott’s <em>Lead</em>, one of our longtime favorites. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3fDXde2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/lead/id827595467" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/lead-kylie-scott/1117685321" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/lead-7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781250052384" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>! Get the others in the series, too, while you’re at it, because you’ll probably want to read the whole thing. </p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! Please follow us on your favorite podcasting app, and if you are up for leaving a rating or review there, we would be very grateful! </p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome&nbsp;<a href="https://zoraidacordova.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Zoraida Córdova!</a>&nbsp;Zoraida writes MG, YA, and adult speculative fiction, and also romance under the name Zoey Castile.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/travel/puerto-rico-history-and-heritage-13990189/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Puerto Rico is a US territory</a>&nbsp;and residents of the island are American citizens.</li><li><a href="https://advancedmixology.com/blogs/art-of-mixology/why-use-copper-mug-moscow-mules" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Why Moscow Mules are served in copper mugs.</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/normajeanesays" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">We love Norma Perez-Hernandez</a>&nbsp;who is&nbsp;<a href="https://www.boricuareads.com/vamos-a-hablar/vamos-a-hablar-lets-talk-interview-with-norma-perez-hernandez" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">an amazing, exuberant editor at Kensington</a>, and if you don’t follow her on Twitter she should. Norma also was on the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/people/article/84588-pw-star-watch-2020-honorees.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2020 Publisher's Weekly Star Watch</a>&nbsp;List.&nbsp;</li><li>Zoraida’s book&nbsp;<em>The Vicious Deep</em>&nbsp;answers the age-old question of “where does it go,” a similar answer is in&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/30/movies/the-shape-of-water-review-guillermo-del-toro.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Guillermo del Toro's movie&nbsp;<em>The Shape of Water</em>.&nbsp;</a></li><li><a href="https://bookriot.com/what-is-speculative-fiction/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Speculative fiction asks the question “what if”</a>&nbsp;and is the big umbrella category for science fiction, fantasy, urban fantasy (now Black authors in particular suggest we rename this contemporary fantasy), and paranormal.&nbsp;</li><li>Reading strategies are for everyone:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.tor.com/2019/03/19/what-does-a-fantasy-map-look-like/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">We love maps in fantasy</a>, so why not in contemporary fiction?</li><li><a href="https://www.firstdraftpod.com/audio-episodes/2021/5/6/victoria-aveyard" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Victoria Avyeard was on Sarah Enni's First Draft podcast</a>&nbsp;talking about world building.</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/XevCvCLdKCU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Hero’s Journey</a>, or maybe&nbsp;<a href="https://heroinejourneys.com/heroines-journey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the heroine’s journey</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/nk-jemisin-how-to-write-science-fiction-wired25/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">NK Jemisin’s lecture</a>&nbsp;about&nbsp;<a href="https://nkjemisin.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/WDWebinar.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the cultural iceberg</a>&nbsp;shows writers how to build a world that goes beyond what’s on the surface.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/necromancydrew/status/1393978104004153353?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">An interesting thread from a YA librarian</a>, and another from&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/_ElizabethMay/status/1394579492715339781?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">author Elizabeth May</a>, about why and how romance plots in SFF are pushed into YA.&nbsp;</li><li>Zoraida hosts a writing podcast with Dhonielle Clayton called&nbsp;<a href="https://deadlinecity.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Deadline City.</a></li><li>Relevant music perormed by:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.twintemple.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twin Temple</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://marikevandijk.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Marike van Dijk</a>&nbsp;+&nbsp;<a href="https://myspace.com/katellkeineg/music/songs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Katell Keineg</a>,&nbsp;<a href="http://kingmissile.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">King Missile</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Octagon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dr. Octagon</a>, and Led Zeppelin. Listen to the full&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6QWZy7vo4Dw9eS733PJj1U?si=9d8e0542a2d74ff5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Music playlist</a>&nbsp;on Spotify.&nbsp;</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/6/8/s0342-fantasy-romance-interstitial-with-zoraida-crdova]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:60bf65f7fb00871d341c5981</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2021 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/d92f9c28-09e5-4b87-9310-612b3e90c6ed/fated-mates-zoraida-cordova-final.mp3" length="86914372" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:25:39</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>49</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>49</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>This week, Zoraida Córdova (aka Zoey Castille) joins us to talk about fantasy romance and why it is so hard to find it in the romance pool. We talk about speculative fiction, high fantasy, low fantasy, urban fantasy, contemporary fantasy, paranormal romance and more, all while trying to figure out just what makes something fantasy and not paranormal (we think we’ve cracked the code). We also talk world building, about maps, and about merman junk.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-d92f9c28-09e5-4b87-9310-612b3e90c6ed.json" type="application/json+chapters"/><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="video/youtube" title="S03.42: Fantasy Romance with Zoraida Córdova"><podcast:source uri="https://youtu.be/t-42ZeKm50g"/></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>Bonus: 99% Invisible Podcast on The Clinch</title><itunes:title>Bonus: 99% Invisible Talks Romance Covers</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Monday Surprise! We’re so excited to share last week’s episode of 99% Invisible with Fated Mates listeners this week — Sarah’s favorite podcast did an episode about romance covers, and it was thoughtful and respectful and perfect….and not only because she was on it. </p><p>She’s so grateful to the team at 99% Invisible for having her, and we’re so grateful to them for letting us share the episode with all of you. Enjoy!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Sarah was a guest on&nbsp;<a href="https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/the-clinch/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">last week's 99% Invisible podcast called The Clinch</a>. We're huge fans of the podcast, but it's especially because their episode about locks called&nbsp;<a href="https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/perfect-security/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Perfect Security</a>&nbsp;was the inspiration for Felicity Faircloth in&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3ptqdIC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Wicked and the Wallflower</em></a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Although we haven't talk about the cover of&nbsp;<em>Tender is the Storm</em>&nbsp;on Fated Mates, we did discuss another Johanna Lindsey fan favorite,&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/10/7/s025-gentle-rogue" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gentle Rogue</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>One of Jen's favorite episodes of 99% Invisible&nbsp;<a href="https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/vexillonaire/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">is about flag design,</a>&nbsp;probably because it was very complimentary to the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.chicagomag.com/city-life/august-2013/chicago-city-flag/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chicago flag.</a>&nbsp;Sarah's is obviously Perfect Security, but she also loved&nbsp;<a href="https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/fountain-drinks/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this one on water fountains</a>.</li><li>If you're looking for other great reads about romance covers,&nbsp;<a href="https://jezebel.com/the-steamy-throbbing-history-of-romance-novel-covers-1832430711" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kelly Faircloth wrote about clinch covers for Jezebel</a>&nbsp;and it is a must read.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/news-and-features/articles/making-harlequin-romance-cover/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">And Jen wrote about the art of the Harlequin romance cover for Kirkus.</a></li><li>This episode of 99PI was produced by Katie Mingle and inspired by her mom, Pamela Mingle, who writes historical romances. Try her debut (with that gorgeous clinch!),&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3x1IL5i" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>A False Proposal</em></a>, or her most recent,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3fX9tX8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Game of Spies</em></a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/6/7/bonus-99-percent-invisible-podcast-on-the-clinch </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monday Surprise! We’re so excited to share last week’s episode of 99% Invisible with Fated Mates listeners this week — Sarah’s favorite podcast did an episode about romance covers, and it was thoughtful and respectful and perfect….and not only because she was on it. </p><p>She’s so grateful to the team at 99% Invisible for having her, and we’re so grateful to them for letting us share the episode with all of you. Enjoy!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Sarah was a guest on&nbsp;<a href="https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/the-clinch/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">last week's 99% Invisible podcast called The Clinch</a>. We're huge fans of the podcast, but it's especially because their episode about locks called&nbsp;<a href="https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/perfect-security/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Perfect Security</a>&nbsp;was the inspiration for Felicity Faircloth in&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3ptqdIC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Wicked and the Wallflower</em></a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Although we haven't talk about the cover of&nbsp;<em>Tender is the Storm</em>&nbsp;on Fated Mates, we did discuss another Johanna Lindsey fan favorite,&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/10/7/s025-gentle-rogue" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gentle Rogue</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>One of Jen's favorite episodes of 99% Invisible&nbsp;<a href="https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/vexillonaire/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">is about flag design,</a>&nbsp;probably because it was very complimentary to the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.chicagomag.com/city-life/august-2013/chicago-city-flag/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chicago flag.</a>&nbsp;Sarah's is obviously Perfect Security, but she also loved&nbsp;<a href="https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/fountain-drinks/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this one on water fountains</a>.</li><li>If you're looking for other great reads about romance covers,&nbsp;<a href="https://jezebel.com/the-steamy-throbbing-history-of-romance-novel-covers-1832430711" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kelly Faircloth wrote about clinch covers for Jezebel</a>&nbsp;and it is a must read.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/news-and-features/articles/making-harlequin-romance-cover/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">And Jen wrote about the art of the Harlequin romance cover for Kirkus.</a></li><li>This episode of 99PI was produced by Katie Mingle and inspired by her mom, Pamela Mingle, who writes historical romances. Try her debut (with that gorgeous clinch!),&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3x1IL5i" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>A False Proposal</em></a>, or her most recent,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3fX9tX8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Game of Spies</em></a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/6/7/bonus-99-percent-invisible-podcast-on-the-clinch </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/6/7/bonus-99-percent-invisible-podcast-on-the-clinch]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:60beb2142fa0da6a8f5d508b</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/f0fa8deb-6e57-4843-9dee-599502d8cc3a/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2021 16:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/4210e282-7f90-4d57-8142-3a32202f0000/99pi-draft-reve-v3.mp3" length="43822593" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>44:58</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>48</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>48</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Monday Surprise! We’re so excited to share last week’s episode of 99% Invisible with Fated Mates listeners this week — Sarah’s favorite podcast did an episode about romance covers, and it was thoughtful and respectful and perfect….and not only because she was on it. 

She’s so grateful to the team at 99% Invisible for having her, and we’re so grateful to them for letting us share the episode with all of you. Enjoy!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-4210e282-7f90-4d57-8142-3a32202f0000.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S03.41: Spy Romance with Nana Malone</title><itunes:title>Spy Romance with Nana Malone</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>You are in the right place! Your eyes do not deceive you! We’re actually talking about spy romances this week and no Sarahs were harmed during the discussion, but that’s probably because it was a discussion with one of her favorite people, the fantastic Nana Malone! </p><p>We talk about Nana’s immense career, about how she took matters into her own hands and started making the covers she wished to see in the world, about her Brown Nipple reading challenge, about her latest book, a Kobo original, <em>The Spy in 3B, </em>and about porny ferris wheels. Real ordinary stuff. We also get to the bottom of why Sarah doesn’t like spy romances generally, but why she can’t get enough of <em>Mr. &amp; Mrs. Smith </em>retellings.  </p><p>Our next read along in some number of weeks (three? four?) is Kylie Scott’s <em>Lead</em>, one of our longtime favorites. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3fDXde2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/lead/id827595467" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/lead-kylie-scott/1117685321" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/lead-7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781250052384" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>! </p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! Please follow us on your favorite podcasting app, and if you are up for leaving a rating or review there, we would be very grateful! </p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome&nbsp;<a href="https://nanamaloneromance.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nana Malone</a>&nbsp;back to the pod, and if you want to hear more about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/nanamalonewriter/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Brown Nipple Challenge, check out her Instagram</a>. She is an amazing author and recently&nbsp;<a href="https://frolic.media/why-i-put-myself-on-my-book-covers-by-nana-malone/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">became her own cover model</a>&nbsp;after failing to find good stock photos for her books.</li><li>If you don’t know&nbsp;<a href="https://www.stockphotosecrets.com/questions-answers/how-do-stock-photos-work-beginners-guide.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">how stock photography works</a>, here’s a brief primer on&nbsp;<a href="https://www.shutterstock.com/blog/stock-photos-for-book-covers" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">how they can be used to make book covers and teasers</a>. The problems with&nbsp;<a href="https://zora.medium.com/why-i-never-use-stock-photos-of-white-people-e069868160ba" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">finding stock photography that is truly diverse is a well-known problem.</a>&nbsp;For most authors, custom photography is cost-prohibitive. Nana’s favorite photographer is<a href="http://wanderaguiar.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">&nbsp;Wander Aguiar</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>If you want to hear more about romance covers and their history, Sarah was interviewed on&nbsp;<a href="https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/the-clinch/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">an episode of the 99% Invisible podcast</a>&nbsp;about covers this week. Head over and have a listen after you listen to this!&nbsp;</li><li>Just in case you need a quick review, there are currently three paths in publishing: self-published, indie, and traditional. It’s common to use “indie” and “self-published” interchangeably, which why Nana described an author as “their own business.” Strictly speaking, Indie means small, independent presses, such as&nbsp;<a href="https://violetgazepress.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Violet Gaze Press</a>. And Trad, or traditional publishing, refers to the Big Five&nbsp;<a href="https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/books/story/2020-12-04/the-latest-publishing-mega-merger-might-kill-off-literary-diversity" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">(Big Four?)</a>&nbsp;New York publishing houses: Hachette, HarperCollins, Macmillan, Penguin Random House and Simon &amp; Schuster.&nbsp;</li><li>A little about the&nbsp;<a href="https://goodereader.com/blog/electronic-readers/the-history-of-kobo-and-how-they-changed-the-e-reader-market" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">history of Kobo</a>&nbsp;and why it’s&nbsp;<a href="https://financialpost.com/entrepreneur/fp-startups/how-e-reading-company-kobo-is-fighting-amazon-apple-and-google-for-your-time" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">worth supporting them.&nbsp;</a></li><li>No one likes it when the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/these-women-coined-term-mary-sue-180972182/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mary Sue character</a>&nbsp;has no idea what’s going on.&nbsp;</li><li>Turns out that Ferris Wheel sex is a real thing&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youredm.com/2019/04/17/nsfw-another-couple-caught-on-coachellas-ferris-wheel-this-time-actually-having-sex/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">at Coachella</a>. And&nbsp;<a href="https://www.foxnews.com/us/south-carolina-couple-accused-of-sex-on-myrtle-beach-ferris-wheel-charged-again" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Myrtle Beach</a>. And&nbsp;<a href="https://vitalvegas.com/11-vital-tips-sex-high-roller-ferris-wheel-las-vegas/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vegas</a>. And&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3c9vorJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/RvwbuYC63KM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Daniel Craig jumps on a train</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/dLF3XDHKm9Y" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pierce Brosnon catches a plane</a>.</li><li><a href="https://mymodernmet.com/faberge-egg-history/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Faberge Eggs</a>&nbsp;have a&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cnn.com/style/article/faberge-luxurious-eggs/index.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">storied history</a>&nbsp;and are&nbsp;<a href="https://fabergeland.com/top-10-expensive-faberge-eggs/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">very fancy</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>The hero of Night Magic is&nbsp;<a href="https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/the-strange-history-of-the-die-hard-movies/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">not that John McClane</a>. If you like a&nbsp;<a href="https://fivebooks.com/best-books/jeremy-duns-on-forgotten-cold-war-thrillers/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cold War thriller</a>, you might enjoy a bonkers 80s spy thriller,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2TwsK97" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Charm School by Nelson DeMille</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Jen did love&nbsp;<em>Lies</em>, but&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/news-and-features/articles/can-romance-fiction-have-unreliable-narrators/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">had some thoughts about the ending and unreliable narrators</a>&nbsp;that you can read after you finish the book.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://screenrant.com/james-bond-movies-miss-moneypenny-actresses/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Miss Moneypenny</a>.</li><li>We also mentioned some movies and TV shows about spies:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._%26_Mrs._Smith_(2005_film)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mr. and Mrs. Smith</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Femme_Nikita_(TV_series)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">La Femme Nikita</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spy_(2015_film)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spy</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casino_Royale_(2006_film)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">James Bond</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_Lies" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">True Lies</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Americans" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Americans</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingsman:_The_Secret_Service" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kingsman</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scarlet_Pimpernel_(1934_film)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Scarlet Pimpernel</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/5/31/s0341-spy-romance-interstitial-with-nana-malone </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/>...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are in the right place! Your eyes do not deceive you! We’re actually talking about spy romances this week and no Sarahs were harmed during the discussion, but that’s probably because it was a discussion with one of her favorite people, the fantastic Nana Malone! </p><p>We talk about Nana’s immense career, about how she took matters into her own hands and started making the covers she wished to see in the world, about her Brown Nipple reading challenge, about her latest book, a Kobo original, <em>The Spy in 3B, </em>and about porny ferris wheels. Real ordinary stuff. We also get to the bottom of why Sarah doesn’t like spy romances generally, but why she can’t get enough of <em>Mr. &amp; Mrs. Smith </em>retellings.  </p><p>Our next read along in some number of weeks (three? four?) is Kylie Scott’s <em>Lead</em>, one of our longtime favorites. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3fDXde2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/lead/id827595467" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/lead-kylie-scott/1117685321" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/lead-7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781250052384" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>! </p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! Please follow us on your favorite podcasting app, and if you are up for leaving a rating or review there, we would be very grateful! </p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome&nbsp;<a href="https://nanamaloneromance.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nana Malone</a>&nbsp;back to the pod, and if you want to hear more about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/nanamalonewriter/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Brown Nipple Challenge, check out her Instagram</a>. She is an amazing author and recently&nbsp;<a href="https://frolic.media/why-i-put-myself-on-my-book-covers-by-nana-malone/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">became her own cover model</a>&nbsp;after failing to find good stock photos for her books.</li><li>If you don’t know&nbsp;<a href="https://www.stockphotosecrets.com/questions-answers/how-do-stock-photos-work-beginners-guide.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">how stock photography works</a>, here’s a brief primer on&nbsp;<a href="https://www.shutterstock.com/blog/stock-photos-for-book-covers" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">how they can be used to make book covers and teasers</a>. The problems with&nbsp;<a href="https://zora.medium.com/why-i-never-use-stock-photos-of-white-people-e069868160ba" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">finding stock photography that is truly diverse is a well-known problem.</a>&nbsp;For most authors, custom photography is cost-prohibitive. Nana’s favorite photographer is<a href="http://wanderaguiar.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">&nbsp;Wander Aguiar</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>If you want to hear more about romance covers and their history, Sarah was interviewed on&nbsp;<a href="https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/the-clinch/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">an episode of the 99% Invisible podcast</a>&nbsp;about covers this week. Head over and have a listen after you listen to this!&nbsp;</li><li>Just in case you need a quick review, there are currently three paths in publishing: self-published, indie, and traditional. It’s common to use “indie” and “self-published” interchangeably, which why Nana described an author as “their own business.” Strictly speaking, Indie means small, independent presses, such as&nbsp;<a href="https://violetgazepress.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Violet Gaze Press</a>. And Trad, or traditional publishing, refers to the Big Five&nbsp;<a href="https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/books/story/2020-12-04/the-latest-publishing-mega-merger-might-kill-off-literary-diversity" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">(Big Four?)</a>&nbsp;New York publishing houses: Hachette, HarperCollins, Macmillan, Penguin Random House and Simon &amp; Schuster.&nbsp;</li><li>A little about the&nbsp;<a href="https://goodereader.com/blog/electronic-readers/the-history-of-kobo-and-how-they-changed-the-e-reader-market" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">history of Kobo</a>&nbsp;and why it’s&nbsp;<a href="https://financialpost.com/entrepreneur/fp-startups/how-e-reading-company-kobo-is-fighting-amazon-apple-and-google-for-your-time" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">worth supporting them.&nbsp;</a></li><li>No one likes it when the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/these-women-coined-term-mary-sue-180972182/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mary Sue character</a>&nbsp;has no idea what’s going on.&nbsp;</li><li>Turns out that Ferris Wheel sex is a real thing&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youredm.com/2019/04/17/nsfw-another-couple-caught-on-coachellas-ferris-wheel-this-time-actually-having-sex/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">at Coachella</a>. And&nbsp;<a href="https://www.foxnews.com/us/south-carolina-couple-accused-of-sex-on-myrtle-beach-ferris-wheel-charged-again" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Myrtle Beach</a>. And&nbsp;<a href="https://vitalvegas.com/11-vital-tips-sex-high-roller-ferris-wheel-las-vegas/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vegas</a>. And&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3c9vorJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kindle Unlimited</a>.</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/RvwbuYC63KM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Daniel Craig jumps on a train</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/dLF3XDHKm9Y" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pierce Brosnon catches a plane</a>.</li><li><a href="https://mymodernmet.com/faberge-egg-history/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Faberge Eggs</a>&nbsp;have a&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cnn.com/style/article/faberge-luxurious-eggs/index.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">storied history</a>&nbsp;and are&nbsp;<a href="https://fabergeland.com/top-10-expensive-faberge-eggs/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">very fancy</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>The hero of Night Magic is&nbsp;<a href="https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/the-strange-history-of-the-die-hard-movies/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">not that John McClane</a>. If you like a&nbsp;<a href="https://fivebooks.com/best-books/jeremy-duns-on-forgotten-cold-war-thrillers/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cold War thriller</a>, you might enjoy a bonkers 80s spy thriller,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2TwsK97" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Charm School by Nelson DeMille</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Jen did love&nbsp;<em>Lies</em>, but&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/news-and-features/articles/can-romance-fiction-have-unreliable-narrators/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">had some thoughts about the ending and unreliable narrators</a>&nbsp;that you can read after you finish the book.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://screenrant.com/james-bond-movies-miss-moneypenny-actresses/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Miss Moneypenny</a>.</li><li>We also mentioned some movies and TV shows about spies:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._%26_Mrs._Smith_(2005_film)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mr. and Mrs. Smith</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Femme_Nikita_(TV_series)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">La Femme Nikita</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spy_(2015_film)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spy</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casino_Royale_(2006_film)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">James Bond</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_Lies" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">True Lies</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Americans" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Americans</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingsman:_The_Secret_Service" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kingsman</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scarlet_Pimpernel_(1934_film)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Scarlet Pimpernel</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/5/31/s0341-spy-romance-interstitial-with-nana-malone </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/5/31/s0341-spy-romance-interstitial-with-nana-malone]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:60b4ce25754f3e6227d9a022</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2021 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/5850bd90-4d46-412d-bd43-3d7da505585e/fated-mates-nana-malone-final.mp3" length="94842396" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:31:08</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>47</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>47</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>You are in the right place! Your eyes do not deceive you! We’re actually talking about spy romances this week and no Sarahs were harmed during the discussion, but that’s probably because it was a discussion with one of her favorite people, the fantastic Nana Malone! 

We talk about Nana’s immense career, about how she took matters into her own hands and started making the covers she wished to see in the world, about her Brown Nipple reading challenge, about her latest book, a Kobo original, The Spy in 3B, and about porny ferris wheels. Real ordinary stuff. We also get to the bottom of why Sarah doesn’t like spy romances generally, but why she can’t get enough of Mr. &amp; Mrs. Smith retellings.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-5850bd90-4d46-412d-bd43-3d7da505585e.json" type="application/json+chapters"/><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="video/youtube" title="S03.41: Spy Romance with Nana Malone"><podcast:source uri="https://youtu.be/Gpl6_gRG-3o"/></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>S03.40: Tangled Lies by Anne Stuart - Who Flies in White Linen?!</title><itunes:title>Tangled Lies by Anne Stuart - Who Flies in White Linen?!</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Continuing our conversation about Bright Bananas on the Romance Tree — this week we’re reading an extreme oldie, Anne Stuart’s Tangled Lies, famous for being a story about a heroine falling for her brother…except he’s not really her brother! It’s a RIDE. We talk about just how odd romance could be back in the day, about how this book might be an ancestor to dark romance, and about how alpha alpha heroes could really get. And then we talk about modern contemporary romance and how things are changing in traditional publishing. </p><p>Our next read along in some number of weeks (three? four?) is Kylie Scott’s <em>Lead</em>, one of our longtime favorites. Get it at Amazon, Apple Books, B&amp;N, Kobo, or Bookshop.org! </p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! Please follow us on your favorite podcasting app, and if you are up for leaving a rating or review there, we would be very grateful! </p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li><a href="http://www.sarahmaclean.net/bombshell" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Bombshell</em></a>&nbsp;comes out on Aug 24th.&nbsp;<a href="https://shop.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">You should preorder it from WORD in Brooklyn</a>, which will for sure come with some cool swag, including a special edition Fated Mates sticker. Best Friend Kelly did a&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/BestFriendKelly/status/1391072630120321026?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter poll asking people about their experiences ordering books + swag</a>&nbsp;from Indie bookstores. Speaking of which, the art by&nbsp;<a href="https://eklixio.carrd.co/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Liz Parkes</a>&nbsp;for&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/eklixio/status/1396545633662783491?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Soulmate Equation</em></a>&nbsp;is the cutest!&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.tasteofhome.com/collection/recipes-for-ripe-bananas/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">You might need this page</a>&nbsp;as you are reading&nbsp;<em>Tangled Lies</em>.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/HEAapologist/status/1396267942011052032?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Speaking of books from your grandma’s attic, look at what HEAapologist found this week</a>! If you want this feeling without having relatives cool enough to leave them lying around, just order a big lot of random romances from eBay. For individual titles, Jen thinks&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thriftbooks.com/share/?code=%252biRm2ySx9e%252fLzgqQl60tLQ%253d%253d" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Thrift Books</a>&nbsp;is better than Amazon because you don’t pay shipping for each individual title.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/robimes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rob Imes</a>&nbsp;has&nbsp;<a href="http://robimes.blogspot.com/2020/01/a-guide-to-category-romance-series-1965.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a page on his blog where he keeps track of all the category lines</a>&nbsp;through 1989. In the case of&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3fjQaXF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Tangled Lies</em></a>, it was first published as&nbsp;<a href="https://www.harlequin.com/shop/brand/harlequin-intrigue.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Harlequin Intrigue</a>&nbsp;#5, then it was rebranded in the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/series/silhouette-men-made-in-america~14108.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Men Made in America series</a>, and finally part of the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/series/harlequin-famous-firsts~14168.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Famous Firsts Collection</a>&nbsp;that celebrated&nbsp;<a href="https://bookbinge.com/2009/06/famous-firsts-revising-harlequin-classics/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Harlequin's 60th anniversary</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fiction DB</a>&nbsp;is the place to do if you're looking for an author's backlist. Here is&nbsp;<a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/author/anne-stuart~7172.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Anne Stuart's page,</a>&nbsp;the one&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3hMNweK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">where the soldier and the nun have a baby together.</a>&nbsp;Also,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2RJV2MO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Catspaw</em>.</a></li><li>Check out&nbsp;<a href="https://instagram.com/ladriana_herrera?utm_medium=copy_link" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adriana’s Instagram Live Series about telenovelas</a>. Sarah was on to talk about&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falcon_Crest" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Falcon Crest</a>, because she imprinted on Lorenzo Llamas in his swim suit.&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1397252030322946050?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">His character's name was Lance Cumson. Sure.</a>Speaking of Adriana, now is the time to preorder&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3hTGB3o" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>One Week to Claim it All</em></a>. Jen and her brother Mike will be on to talk about Santa Barbara.</li><li>In case you don’t remember&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/09/movies/stream-movie-sneakers.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the movie Sneakers</a>&nbsp;a very similar situation happens when Robert Redford is out for pizza in the 60s. And it looks like Jen &amp; Sarah&nbsp;<a href="https://slate.com/culture/2012/09/sneakers-20th-anniversary-how-the-robert-redford-caper-inspired-a-generation-of-fervent-fans.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">aren't the only ones who love this movie.&nbsp;</a></li><li>Why we were all afraid of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/14-fun-facts-about-piranhas-180951948/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">piranhas</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.britannica.com/story/how-deadly-is-quicksand" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">quicksand</a>&nbsp;in the 80s. I don’t know why.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/FatedMates/status/1393189916507578372?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Pondering Padre</a>&nbsp;(from the original cover) looks like&nbsp;<a href="https://www.sparknotes.com/shakespeare/romeojuliet/character/friar-lawrence/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Friar Lawrence</a>, but not like&nbsp;<a href="https://disney.fandom.com/wiki/Friar_Tuck" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Friar Tuck</a>. Please note:&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/11/4/s029-priest-by-sierra-simone" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">not that kind of&nbsp;<em>Priest</em>.</a></li><li>In the introduction, Anne Stuart mentioned being inspired by an old movie called&nbsp;<a href="https://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title/83617/miss-tatlocks-millions#overview" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Miss Tatlock's Millions (1948)</a>&nbsp;but when it comes to "ope, maybe we're related" in pop culture, it seems hard not to talk about the influence of&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flowers_in_the_Attic" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Flowers in the Attic</em></a>&nbsp;and its famous&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/646371/vc-andrews-flowers-in-the-attic-book-facts" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">incestual relationship</a>. More recently, it was the&nbsp;<a href="https://screenrant.com/game-thrones-cersei-jaime-romance-bad-targaryens-reason/?scrlybrkr=502ad164" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lannister twins in Game of Thrones&nbsp;</a>or the folks in&nbsp;<a href="https://slate.com/human-interest/2021/05/boyfriend-brother-sex-advice.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this Slate column</a>.</li><li>In romance, it was more common that these attractions were the mark of villainous men lusting after their sisters, such as&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3vk1rgk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Prisoner of My Desire</em>&nbsp;by Johanna Lindsey</a>, and others by Bertrice Small and Stella Cameron. A more updated story is&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2RLvaQv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Mister Moneybags</em>&nbsp;by Vi Keeland and Penelope Ward.</a></li><li>In film, along with Miss Tatlock's Millions, Sarah metioned&nbsp;<a href="https://collider.com/crimson-peak-explained/?scrlybrkr=1a8284b7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Crimson Peak (2015)</a>, and Jen is kicking herself for not bringing up the terrific movie movie&nbsp;<a href="https://www.seattletimes.com/entertainment/movies/why-john-sayles-quietly-compelling-lone-star-is-well-worth-revisiting-movies-with-moira/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lone Star</a>&nbsp;(1996).</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1395389982987128846?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen wrote about paratext on Twitter</a>, which of course turned into a cover conversation.&nbsp;</li><li>We have a lot of fun interviews with authors coming up in June, and our next read along (in a couple of weeks) will be&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3fhWXkI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Lead</em>&nbsp;by Kylie Scott.&nbsp;</a></li><li><a href="https://www.vulture.com/author/angelica-jade-bastien/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vulture TV Critic Angelica Jade Bastién</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/angelicabastien/status/1385956894645358598?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wrote a thread asking why she's bored, and wondering what happend to interesting failures</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2021/05/donald-glover-thinks-fear-of-cancelation-is-to-blame-for-boring-film-and-tv" rel="noopener...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Continuing our conversation about Bright Bananas on the Romance Tree — this week we’re reading an extreme oldie, Anne Stuart’s Tangled Lies, famous for being a story about a heroine falling for her brother…except he’s not really her brother! It’s a RIDE. We talk about just how odd romance could be back in the day, about how this book might be an ancestor to dark romance, and about how alpha alpha heroes could really get. And then we talk about modern contemporary romance and how things are changing in traditional publishing. </p><p>Our next read along in some number of weeks (three? four?) is Kylie Scott’s <em>Lead</em>, one of our longtime favorites. Get it at Amazon, Apple Books, B&amp;N, Kobo, or Bookshop.org! </p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! Please follow us on your favorite podcasting app, and if you are up for leaving a rating or review there, we would be very grateful! </p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li><a href="http://www.sarahmaclean.net/bombshell" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Bombshell</em></a>&nbsp;comes out on Aug 24th.&nbsp;<a href="https://shop.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">You should preorder it from WORD in Brooklyn</a>, which will for sure come with some cool swag, including a special edition Fated Mates sticker. Best Friend Kelly did a&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/BestFriendKelly/status/1391072630120321026?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter poll asking people about their experiences ordering books + swag</a>&nbsp;from Indie bookstores. Speaking of which, the art by&nbsp;<a href="https://eklixio.carrd.co/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Liz Parkes</a>&nbsp;for&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/eklixio/status/1396545633662783491?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Soulmate Equation</em></a>&nbsp;is the cutest!&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.tasteofhome.com/collection/recipes-for-ripe-bananas/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">You might need this page</a>&nbsp;as you are reading&nbsp;<em>Tangled Lies</em>.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/HEAapologist/status/1396267942011052032?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Speaking of books from your grandma’s attic, look at what HEAapologist found this week</a>! If you want this feeling without having relatives cool enough to leave them lying around, just order a big lot of random romances from eBay. For individual titles, Jen thinks&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thriftbooks.com/share/?code=%252biRm2ySx9e%252fLzgqQl60tLQ%253d%253d" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Thrift Books</a>&nbsp;is better than Amazon because you don’t pay shipping for each individual title.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/robimes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rob Imes</a>&nbsp;has&nbsp;<a href="http://robimes.blogspot.com/2020/01/a-guide-to-category-romance-series-1965.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a page on his blog where he keeps track of all the category lines</a>&nbsp;through 1989. In the case of&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3fjQaXF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Tangled Lies</em></a>, it was first published as&nbsp;<a href="https://www.harlequin.com/shop/brand/harlequin-intrigue.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Harlequin Intrigue</a>&nbsp;#5, then it was rebranded in the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/series/silhouette-men-made-in-america~14108.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Men Made in America series</a>, and finally part of the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/series/harlequin-famous-firsts~14168.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Famous Firsts Collection</a>&nbsp;that celebrated&nbsp;<a href="https://bookbinge.com/2009/06/famous-firsts-revising-harlequin-classics/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Harlequin's 60th anniversary</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fiction DB</a>&nbsp;is the place to do if you're looking for an author's backlist. Here is&nbsp;<a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/author/anne-stuart~7172.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Anne Stuart's page,</a>&nbsp;the one&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3hMNweK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">where the soldier and the nun have a baby together.</a>&nbsp;Also,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2RJV2MO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Catspaw</em>.</a></li><li>Check out&nbsp;<a href="https://instagram.com/ladriana_herrera?utm_medium=copy_link" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adriana’s Instagram Live Series about telenovelas</a>. Sarah was on to talk about&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falcon_Crest" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Falcon Crest</a>, because she imprinted on Lorenzo Llamas in his swim suit.&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1397252030322946050?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">His character's name was Lance Cumson. Sure.</a>Speaking of Adriana, now is the time to preorder&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3hTGB3o" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>One Week to Claim it All</em></a>. Jen and her brother Mike will be on to talk about Santa Barbara.</li><li>In case you don’t remember&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/09/movies/stream-movie-sneakers.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the movie Sneakers</a>&nbsp;a very similar situation happens when Robert Redford is out for pizza in the 60s. And it looks like Jen &amp; Sarah&nbsp;<a href="https://slate.com/culture/2012/09/sneakers-20th-anniversary-how-the-robert-redford-caper-inspired-a-generation-of-fervent-fans.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">aren't the only ones who love this movie.&nbsp;</a></li><li>Why we were all afraid of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/14-fun-facts-about-piranhas-180951948/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">piranhas</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.britannica.com/story/how-deadly-is-quicksand" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">quicksand</a>&nbsp;in the 80s. I don’t know why.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/FatedMates/status/1393189916507578372?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Pondering Padre</a>&nbsp;(from the original cover) looks like&nbsp;<a href="https://www.sparknotes.com/shakespeare/romeojuliet/character/friar-lawrence/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Friar Lawrence</a>, but not like&nbsp;<a href="https://disney.fandom.com/wiki/Friar_Tuck" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Friar Tuck</a>. Please note:&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/11/4/s029-priest-by-sierra-simone" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">not that kind of&nbsp;<em>Priest</em>.</a></li><li>In the introduction, Anne Stuart mentioned being inspired by an old movie called&nbsp;<a href="https://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title/83617/miss-tatlocks-millions#overview" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Miss Tatlock's Millions (1948)</a>&nbsp;but when it comes to "ope, maybe we're related" in pop culture, it seems hard not to talk about the influence of&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flowers_in_the_Attic" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Flowers in the Attic</em></a>&nbsp;and its famous&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/646371/vc-andrews-flowers-in-the-attic-book-facts" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">incestual relationship</a>. More recently, it was the&nbsp;<a href="https://screenrant.com/game-thrones-cersei-jaime-romance-bad-targaryens-reason/?scrlybrkr=502ad164" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lannister twins in Game of Thrones&nbsp;</a>or the folks in&nbsp;<a href="https://slate.com/human-interest/2021/05/boyfriend-brother-sex-advice.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this Slate column</a>.</li><li>In romance, it was more common that these attractions were the mark of villainous men lusting after their sisters, such as&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3vk1rgk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Prisoner of My Desire</em>&nbsp;by Johanna Lindsey</a>, and others by Bertrice Small and Stella Cameron. A more updated story is&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2RLvaQv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Mister Moneybags</em>&nbsp;by Vi Keeland and Penelope Ward.</a></li><li>In film, along with Miss Tatlock's Millions, Sarah metioned&nbsp;<a href="https://collider.com/crimson-peak-explained/?scrlybrkr=1a8284b7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Crimson Peak (2015)</a>, and Jen is kicking herself for not bringing up the terrific movie movie&nbsp;<a href="https://www.seattletimes.com/entertainment/movies/why-john-sayles-quietly-compelling-lone-star-is-well-worth-revisiting-movies-with-moira/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lone Star</a>&nbsp;(1996).</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1395389982987128846?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen wrote about paratext on Twitter</a>, which of course turned into a cover conversation.&nbsp;</li><li>We have a lot of fun interviews with authors coming up in June, and our next read along (in a couple of weeks) will be&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3fhWXkI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Lead</em>&nbsp;by Kylie Scott.&nbsp;</a></li><li><a href="https://www.vulture.com/author/angelica-jade-bastien/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vulture TV Critic Angelica Jade Bastién</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/angelicabastien/status/1385956894645358598?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wrote a thread asking why she's bored, and wondering what happend to interesting failures</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2021/05/donald-glover-thinks-fear-of-cancelation-is-to-blame-for-boring-film-and-tv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Donald Glover returned to Twitter to blame cancel culture</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thewrap.com/donald-glover-blames-boring-projects-on-cancellation/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">for boring art</a>, but then he canceled his own tweets later.&nbsp;</li><li>A few think pieces about why sexual content is being deplatformed on the:&nbsp;<a href="https://thefightmag.com/2019/01/big-techs-war-on-sex/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">who is doing it</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://observer.com/2021/01/first-they-come-for-sex-workers-then-they-come-for-everyone-including-artists/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">who it impacts</a>. I bet you're shocked to learn its&nbsp;<a href="https://www.engadget.com/2018-12-07-the-internet-war-on-sex-is-here.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">about capitalism</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vice.com/en/article/g5bm5w/republicans-love-de-platformingjust-ask-sex-workers" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">right-wing politics</a>. Why Sarah's Facebook group OSRBC keeps getting&nbsp;<a href="https://www.pcmag.com/news/new-facebook-policy-sparks-fears-of-sex-talk-crackdown" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">dragged into the net.</a></li><li>We have a lot of really fun guests coming up in the next few weeks: Tia Williams, Zoraida Cordova, and Nana Malone. Our next read along (at some point in June) will be&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3fimASg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Lead</em>&nbsp;by Kylie Scott.</a></li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/5/25/s0340-tangled-lies-by-anne-stuart </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/5/25/s0340-tangled-lies-by-anne-stuart]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:60acf42ee52348558593e3b7</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2021 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/b43d3b17-3d4b-4210-b635-904dca029abb/fated-mates-tangled-lies-final-revf.mp3" length="82745131" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:21:15</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>46</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>46</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Continuing our conversation about Bright Bananas on the Romance Tree — this week we’re reading an extreme oldie, Anne Stuart’s Tangled Lies, famous for being a story about a heroine falling for her brother…except he’s not really her brother! It’s a RIDE. We talk about just how odd romance could be back in the day, about how this book might be an ancestor to dark romance, and about how alpha alpha heroes could really get. And then we talk about modern contemporary romance and how things are changing in traditional publishing.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-b43d3b17-3d4b-4210-b635-904dca029abb.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S03.39: The Soulmate Equation &amp; Trope Death Match with Christina Lauren</title><itunes:title>The Soulmate Equation &amp; Trope Death Match with Christina Lauren</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It is release week for some of our favorite people, and we’re here to celebrate with them! Join us for a wild conversation about the books Jen refers to as “the brightest bananas on the tree” — each of us has selected a truly wild ride of a book, and we’re going to share them with you! We also talk about their fabulous new release, now Sarah’s favorite CLo book, <em>The Soulmate Equation</em>. Preorder it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3f5t8T6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-soulmate-equation-christina-lauren/1137942328" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>,  <a href="https://www.kobo.com/gr/en/ebook/the-soulmate-equation-2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781982123963" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>, or <a href="https://www.vromansbookstore.com/pre-order-specials" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">signed from Vroman’s bookstore</a>!  </p><p>Our next read along is out of print (but available in audio!), so you will have to do a bit of a used bookstore hunt to get it! Get Anne Stuart’s truly eye-widening <em>Tangled Lies</em> at your local library or via a used bookseller near you. We recommend checking <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Tangled-Lies-Anne-Stuart/dp/0373200013?ref_=nav_youraccount_switchacct" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&amp;_nkw=anne%20stuart%20tangled%20lies&amp;_sacat=0&amp;_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">eBay</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/tangled-lies-harlequin-intrigue_anne-stuart/630279/all-editions/?resultid=ae4e8e62-6264-4bbc-87d5-c67e00f6922e" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Thrift Books</a>. </p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! Please follow us on your favorite podcasting app, and if you are up for leaving a rating or review there, we would be very grateful!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>If you'd like to order signed copies of The Soulmate Equation, check out&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vromansbookstore.com/book/9781982123963" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vroman's Bookstore</a>&nbsp;or the other book shops on&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thesoulmateequation.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CLo's virtual book tour</a>. Tonight, 5/19/2021, Christina and Lauren are&nbsp;<a href="http://www.sarahmaclean.net/sarah-in-person/books-are-magic-christina-lauren-the-soulmate-equation" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">celebrating the launch of The Soulmate Equation with Sarah, Xio Axelrod, and Rachel Epstein.&nbsp;</a></li><li>If you want to dive into the Theranos story, Lo recommends the book&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3bStMCP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bad Blood by John Carreyrou</a>, and the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/18/arts/television/theranos-elizabeth-holmes.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">New York Times has a list</a>&nbsp;of recommended things to read and watch.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.23andme.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">23 &amp; Me</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2019/1/28/18194560/ancestry-dna-23-me-myheritage-science-explainer" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">other DNA Ancestry tests</a>&nbsp;can tell you some things: whether or not you think&nbsp;<a href="https://www.britannica.com/story/why-does-cilantro-taste-like-soap-to-some-people" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">cilantro tastes like soap</a>, and about the size of our&nbsp;<a href="https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/04/100415085317.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">hair follicles</a>, but as of right now,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.healthline.com/health-news/the-new-science-of-matchmaking-091614?scrlybrkr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">science can’t tell you much about your fated mate, I mean soulmate.</a></li><li>Questions about the future of technology and how it intersects with humanity make for great television in shows like&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vulture.com/2016/10/every-black-mirror-episode-from-worst-to-best.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Mirror</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://chicago.suntimes.com/movies-and-tv/2021/3/11/22323793/the-one-netflix-review-dna-matchmaking-soulmate-hannah-ware-series" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The One</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vulture.com/2018/07/casual-final-season-review.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Casual</a>.</li><li>I don’t know, maybe you’ve heard about&nbsp;<a href="https://fivebooks.com/best-books/jerry-coyne-incompatibility-religion-science/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">there being a fundamental incompatibility between science and religion</a>, but&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nationalacademies.org/evolution/science-and-religion" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">others are pretty sure we can work it out.</a></li><li>If you’re not a sportsball fan,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30070633/lebron-james-vs-michael-jordan-why-goat-debate-different-now" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Michael Jordan is a kind of a big deal.&nbsp;</a></li><li><a href="https://www.sashawhite.net/bookshelf/kensington-aphrodisia/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Aphrodisia was a short-lived Kensington imprint</a>&nbsp;that focused on erotica and erotic romance, it ran from 2006 to 2014. Jen asked if it was&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mhpbooks.com/is-amazon-responsible-for-the-elloras-cave-fiasco/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ellora’s Cave</a>, which was another powerhouse erotic romance publisher that shuttered in 2014.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satyr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A satyr is a magical creature from Greek mythology</a>, so we’re not sure if they 1) have two dicks and 2) if they are covered in soft fur. You’re going to have to use your own imagination.</li><li>We all hope that Nicholas the satyr&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Tumnus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">is a little sexier that Mr. Tumnus</a>&nbsp;from the movie version of The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe.</li><li><a href="https://slate.com/human-interest/2021/05/boyfriend-brother-sex-advice.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Slate had a woman asking for advice about her pandemic threesome with two brothers,</a>&nbsp;and you can tell a romance reader didn’t write that advice, because probably they could work that out.&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JennyNordbak/status/1336558379490103299?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen alerted Jenny Nordbak immediately</a>, of course.&nbsp;</li><li>Are you also looking for&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/katee_robert/status/1383830218377363456?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">monster fucking romances</a>?&nbsp;</li><li>If you need a quick review on&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/9/17/s022-the-alpha-in-romance-novels-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">alpha traits, listen to our episode from season two.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.wattpad.com/770432519-the-unofficial-guide-to-the-omegaverse-the-in-and#:~:text=This%20is%20to%20ensure%20the,tying%22%20or%20%22knotting.%22" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Knotting</a>&nbsp;isn't just for&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omegaverse" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A/B/O</a>, it's also in&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/genres/sex-knotting" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">romance</a>. Same with&nbsp;<a href="https://jezebel.com/what-exactly-is-mpreg-a-male-pregnancy-enthusiast-expl-1651553874" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">mPreg</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show/mpreg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">romances</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.slang.org/dp-meaning-definition/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">DP</a>&nbsp;(which no one has made a list of!), in case you need a primer. Lo is looking for a romance that she thinks is called Passionate Ink about an octopus shifter tattoo artist...Maybe? Christina wants your favorite mPreg romance recommendation. We'll also take marriage of convenience recs and secret scar recs if you're in the mood.</li><li>More about&nbsp;<a href="https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/142492/where-did-the-word-quim-come-from" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the word "quim"</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://bleedingcool.com/movies/mewling-quim-and-that-mid-credit-smile-in-the-avengers-movie/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">how it was used in that Avengers movie.&nbsp;</a></li><li>Next up,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3oryHQ9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tangled Lies by Anne Stuart</a>. Buy it used because it's not avaible as an eBook.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/5/16/s0339-the-soulmate-equation-trope-death-match-with-christina-lauren </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is release week for some of our favorite people, and we’re here to celebrate with them! Join us for a wild conversation about the books Jen refers to as “the brightest bananas on the tree” — each of us has selected a truly wild ride of a book, and we’re going to share them with you! We also talk about their fabulous new release, now Sarah’s favorite CLo book, <em>The Soulmate Equation</em>. Preorder it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3f5t8T6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-soulmate-equation-christina-lauren/1137942328" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>,  <a href="https://www.kobo.com/gr/en/ebook/the-soulmate-equation-2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781982123963" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>, or <a href="https://www.vromansbookstore.com/pre-order-specials" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">signed from Vroman’s bookstore</a>!  </p><p>Our next read along is out of print (but available in audio!), so you will have to do a bit of a used bookstore hunt to get it! Get Anne Stuart’s truly eye-widening <em>Tangled Lies</em> at your local library or via a used bookseller near you. We recommend checking <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Tangled-Lies-Anne-Stuart/dp/0373200013?ref_=nav_youraccount_switchacct" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&amp;_nkw=anne%20stuart%20tangled%20lies&amp;_sacat=0&amp;_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">eBay</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/tangled-lies-harlequin-intrigue_anne-stuart/630279/all-editions/?resultid=ae4e8e62-6264-4bbc-87d5-c67e00f6922e" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Thrift Books</a>. </p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! Please follow us on your favorite podcasting app, and if you are up for leaving a rating or review there, we would be very grateful!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>If you'd like to order signed copies of The Soulmate Equation, check out&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vromansbookstore.com/book/9781982123963" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vroman's Bookstore</a>&nbsp;or the other book shops on&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thesoulmateequation.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CLo's virtual book tour</a>. Tonight, 5/19/2021, Christina and Lauren are&nbsp;<a href="http://www.sarahmaclean.net/sarah-in-person/books-are-magic-christina-lauren-the-soulmate-equation" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">celebrating the launch of The Soulmate Equation with Sarah, Xio Axelrod, and Rachel Epstein.&nbsp;</a></li><li>If you want to dive into the Theranos story, Lo recommends the book&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3bStMCP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bad Blood by John Carreyrou</a>, and the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/18/arts/television/theranos-elizabeth-holmes.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">New York Times has a list</a>&nbsp;of recommended things to read and watch.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.23andme.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">23 &amp; Me</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2019/1/28/18194560/ancestry-dna-23-me-myheritage-science-explainer" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">other DNA Ancestry tests</a>&nbsp;can tell you some things: whether or not you think&nbsp;<a href="https://www.britannica.com/story/why-does-cilantro-taste-like-soap-to-some-people" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">cilantro tastes like soap</a>, and about the size of our&nbsp;<a href="https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/04/100415085317.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">hair follicles</a>, but as of right now,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.healthline.com/health-news/the-new-science-of-matchmaking-091614?scrlybrkr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">science can’t tell you much about your fated mate, I mean soulmate.</a></li><li>Questions about the future of technology and how it intersects with humanity make for great television in shows like&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vulture.com/2016/10/every-black-mirror-episode-from-worst-to-best.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Mirror</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://chicago.suntimes.com/movies-and-tv/2021/3/11/22323793/the-one-netflix-review-dna-matchmaking-soulmate-hannah-ware-series" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The One</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vulture.com/2018/07/casual-final-season-review.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Casual</a>.</li><li>I don’t know, maybe you’ve heard about&nbsp;<a href="https://fivebooks.com/best-books/jerry-coyne-incompatibility-religion-science/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">there being a fundamental incompatibility between science and religion</a>, but&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nationalacademies.org/evolution/science-and-religion" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">others are pretty sure we can work it out.</a></li><li>If you’re not a sportsball fan,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30070633/lebron-james-vs-michael-jordan-why-goat-debate-different-now" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Michael Jordan is a kind of a big deal.&nbsp;</a></li><li><a href="https://www.sashawhite.net/bookshelf/kensington-aphrodisia/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Aphrodisia was a short-lived Kensington imprint</a>&nbsp;that focused on erotica and erotic romance, it ran from 2006 to 2014. Jen asked if it was&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mhpbooks.com/is-amazon-responsible-for-the-elloras-cave-fiasco/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ellora’s Cave</a>, which was another powerhouse erotic romance publisher that shuttered in 2014.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satyr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A satyr is a magical creature from Greek mythology</a>, so we’re not sure if they 1) have two dicks and 2) if they are covered in soft fur. You’re going to have to use your own imagination.</li><li>We all hope that Nicholas the satyr&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Tumnus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">is a little sexier that Mr. Tumnus</a>&nbsp;from the movie version of The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe.</li><li><a href="https://slate.com/human-interest/2021/05/boyfriend-brother-sex-advice.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Slate had a woman asking for advice about her pandemic threesome with two brothers,</a>&nbsp;and you can tell a romance reader didn’t write that advice, because probably they could work that out.&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JennyNordbak/status/1336558379490103299?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen alerted Jenny Nordbak immediately</a>, of course.&nbsp;</li><li>Are you also looking for&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/katee_robert/status/1383830218377363456?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">monster fucking romances</a>?&nbsp;</li><li>If you need a quick review on&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/9/17/s022-the-alpha-in-romance-novels-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">alpha traits, listen to our episode from season two.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.wattpad.com/770432519-the-unofficial-guide-to-the-omegaverse-the-in-and#:~:text=This%20is%20to%20ensure%20the,tying%22%20or%20%22knotting.%22" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Knotting</a>&nbsp;isn't just for&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omegaverse" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A/B/O</a>, it's also in&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/genres/sex-knotting" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">romance</a>. Same with&nbsp;<a href="https://jezebel.com/what-exactly-is-mpreg-a-male-pregnancy-enthusiast-expl-1651553874" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">mPreg</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show/mpreg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">romances</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.slang.org/dp-meaning-definition/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">DP</a>&nbsp;(which no one has made a list of!), in case you need a primer. Lo is looking for a romance that she thinks is called Passionate Ink about an octopus shifter tattoo artist...Maybe? Christina wants your favorite mPreg romance recommendation. We'll also take marriage of convenience recs and secret scar recs if you're in the mood.</li><li>More about&nbsp;<a href="https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/142492/where-did-the-word-quim-come-from" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the word "quim"</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://bleedingcool.com/movies/mewling-quim-and-that-mid-credit-smile-in-the-avengers-movie/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">how it was used in that Avengers movie.&nbsp;</a></li><li>Next up,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3oryHQ9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tangled Lies by Anne Stuart</a>. Buy it used because it's not avaible as an eBook.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/5/16/s0339-the-soulmate-equation-trope-death-match-with-christina-lauren </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/5/16/s0339-the-soulmate-equation-trope-death-match-with-christina-lauren]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:60a1c6b3a6ff1a19854f047f</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2021 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/288d4e5c-fda9-48a0-b5be-d8fdf1fca175/fated-mates-soulmate-equation-final-reva.mp3" length="68620291" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:08:53</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>45</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>45</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>It is release week for some of our favorite people, and we’re here to celebrate with them! Join us for a wild conversation about the books Jen refers to as “the brightest bananas on the tree” — each of us has selected a truly wild ride of a book, and we’re going to share them with you! We also talk about their fabulous new release, now Sarah’s favorite CLo book, The Soulmate Equation. Preorder it at Amazon, Barnes &amp; Noble,  Kobo, Bookshop.org, or signed from Vroman’s bookstore!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-288d4e5c-fda9-48a0-b5be-d8fdf1fca175.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S03.38: Ravishing the Heiress by Sherry Thomas: She&apos;s Good</title><itunes:title>Ravishing the Heiress by Sherry Thomas: She&apos;s Good</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We’re talking Sherry Thomas’s beautiful, unrequited love/marriage of convenience story <em>Ravishing the Heiress</em> this week — we’ll talk about angst, about why we love yearning so much, about our feelings about heroes who are dummies, about homes vs. houses, and about Victorians being E X T R A.</p><p>Next week, we’re back with the delightful Christina Lauren to play a very fun game with bananas romance novels and celebrate the launch of their fabulous book (now Sarah’s favorite CLo book), <em>The Soulmate Equation</em>. Preorder it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3f5t8T6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-soulmate-equation-christina-lauren/1137942328" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>,  <a href="https://www.kobo.com/gr/en/ebook/the-soulmate-equation-2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781982123963" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>, or <a href="https://www.vromansbookstore.com/pre-order-specials" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">signed from Vroman’s bookstore</a>!  </p><p>We’re also going to announce our next read along now, because it’s out of print (but available in audio!), so you will have to do a bit of a used bookstore hunt to get it! Get Anne Stuart’s truly bananas <em>Tangled Lies</em> at your local library or via a used bookseller near you. We recommend checking <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Tangled-Lies-Anne-Stuart/dp/0373200013?ref_=nav_youraccount_switchacct" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&amp;_nkw=anne%20stuart%20tangled%20lies&amp;_sacat=0&amp;_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">eBay</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/tangled-lies-harlequin-intrigue_anne-stuart/630279/all-editions/?resultid=ae4e8e62-6264-4bbc-87d5-c67e00f6922e" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Thrift Books</a>. </p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! Please follow us on your favorite podcasting app, and if you are up for leaving a rating or review there, we would be very grateful!</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>This is the&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3y6iDrt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Eurographics Moon Puzzle</a>&nbsp;that Jen is doing, and it’s too hard.&nbsp;</li><li>There is a&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/io9/status/1387557761605455872?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">very funny tweet thread</a>&nbsp;trying to drag the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vulture.com/2021/04/review-shadow-and-bone-almost-gets-lost-in-the-dark.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shadow and Bone TV show</a>, but the replies are terrific.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/FatedMates/status/1391433799582601217?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen was texting Sarah in the middle of the night</a>&nbsp;about Ravishing the Heiress, because of the angst!&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://hergraceslibrary.com/2018/11/26/author-interview-sherry-thomas/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Here’s an interview</a>&nbsp;where Sherry Thomas talks about how reading romance influenced her as a writer.</li><li>We&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/3/15/s0330-a-matter-of-class-by-mary-balogh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">talked about time slip</a>&nbsp;quite a bit on the episode for A Matter of Class by Mary Balogh.</li><li>Millie is 16 at the beginning of the book, and because Jen forgot to talk about it,&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1389739372833124353?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">she wrote a thread about Sherry’s deep respect for teenage girls.&nbsp;</a></li><li>A little bit about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21689069" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the history of tinned food</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://aliseckin.com/blog/victorian-age-and-the-birth-of-advertising/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the rise of advertising</a>&nbsp;in Victorian England.</li><li>All about&nbsp;<a href="https://a-z-animals.com/animals/dormouse/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the dormouse</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.treehugger.com/things-you-didnt-know-about-dormice-4868735" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">keeping them as pets</a>, if you’re into that sort of thing. Give us some credit for not making a joke about&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/DCM-sEpyh1Q" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Of Mice and Men</a>, thank you.&nbsp;</li><li>The Victorians were super extra. Here’s a primer&nbsp;<a href="https://qrius.com/portrait-of-a-lady-the-female-entrepreneur-in-england-and-wales-1851-1911/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">on women in business in the Victorian era</a>. Floriography is the Victorian name for&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_of_flowers" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the language of flowers</a>, which ascribes meanings to flowers and plants. For example,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.floraqueen.com/blog/the-chrysanthemum-flower-and-its-meaning-and-significance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">chrysanthemums</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.floraqueen.com/blog/what-do-lavender-flowers-mean#:~:text=The%20Lavender%20Flower's%20Message,-There%20is%20an&amp;text=You%20can%20ascertain%20its%20message,gets%20this%20meaning%20from%20it." rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lavender</a>&nbsp;(<a href="https://folgerpedia.folger.edu/mediawiki/media/images_pedia_folgerpedia_mw/3/3b/BHRemViolets.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">and yes rosemary is for remembrance is from Hamlet</a>) have very specific meanings. If you’re interested, check out the book&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3od05kz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Floriography: An Illustrated Guide to the Victorian Language of Flowers</a>&nbsp;by Jessica Roux.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.uslavender.org/index.php?Itemid=138&amp;catid=24%3Alavender-101&amp;id=97%3Alavender-and-bees&amp;option=com_content&amp;view=article" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bees that make honey from the nectar of lavender flowers</a>&nbsp;is a&nbsp;<a href="https://www.honeybeesuite.com/lavender-honey-from-the-source/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">different thing</a>&nbsp;than people who make&nbsp;<a href="https://www.food.com/recipe/homemade-lavender-honey-383209" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lavender-infused honey.</a>&nbsp;Now you know!</li><li><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/RomanceBooks/comments/epsriz/how_do_you_feel_about_infidelity_in_romance_novels/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Infidelity in Romance</a>&nbsp;is tricky, and Sarah’s book&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3od0rYr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Day of the Duchess</a>&nbsp;is an example, and there really aren’t that many out there.&nbsp;</li><li>The myth of Cupid &amp; Psyche in&nbsp;<a href="https://www.pitt.edu/~dash/cupid.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">literature</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://joyofmuseums.com/artists-index/cupid-and-psyche-in-art/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">art</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>In Season 4 of The Crown,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.elle.com/culture/movies-tv/a34975475/diana-camilla-lunch-the-crown/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the scene where Camilla Parker-Bowles takes Diana is based in truth</a>, but the name of the restaurant&nbsp;<a href="https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/welp-diana-camillas-irl-lunch-225600780.html?scrlybrkr=9e1d2dcc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">was not Menage a Trois</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Raise a glass to the incomparable&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/01/movies/olympia-dukakis-dead.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Olympia Dukakis.</a></li><li>Next up, we’re dialing the banana phone with&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/785166.Tangled_Lies" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tangled Lies by Anne Stuart.&nbsp;</a></li><li><a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/product-page/romancelandia-sticker-club" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Join BestFriendKelly’s Sticker of the Month Club</a>. If you put Fated Mates in the note, she’ll send a free sparkly Fated Mates sticker. If you’re already a member, drop her a note and she’ll include it with your next sticker.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/5/9/s0338-ravishing-the-heiress-by-sherry-thomas </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough.]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We’re talking Sherry Thomas’s beautiful, unrequited love/marriage of convenience story <em>Ravishing the Heiress</em> this week — we’ll talk about angst, about why we love yearning so much, about our feelings about heroes who are dummies, about homes vs. houses, and about Victorians being E X T R A.</p><p>Next week, we’re back with the delightful Christina Lauren to play a very fun game with bananas romance novels and celebrate the launch of their fabulous book (now Sarah’s favorite CLo book), <em>The Soulmate Equation</em>. Preorder it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3f5t8T6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-soulmate-equation-christina-lauren/1137942328" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>,  <a href="https://www.kobo.com/gr/en/ebook/the-soulmate-equation-2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781982123963" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>, or <a href="https://www.vromansbookstore.com/pre-order-specials" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">signed from Vroman’s bookstore</a>!  </p><p>We’re also going to announce our next read along now, because it’s out of print (but available in audio!), so you will have to do a bit of a used bookstore hunt to get it! Get Anne Stuart’s truly bananas <em>Tangled Lies</em> at your local library or via a used bookseller near you. We recommend checking <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Tangled-Lies-Anne-Stuart/dp/0373200013?ref_=nav_youraccount_switchacct" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&amp;_nkw=anne%20stuart%20tangled%20lies&amp;_sacat=0&amp;_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">eBay</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/tangled-lies-harlequin-intrigue_anne-stuart/630279/all-editions/?resultid=ae4e8e62-6264-4bbc-87d5-c67e00f6922e" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Thrift Books</a>. </p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! Please follow us on your favorite podcasting app, and if you are up for leaving a rating or review there, we would be very grateful!</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>This is the&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3y6iDrt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Eurographics Moon Puzzle</a>&nbsp;that Jen is doing, and it’s too hard.&nbsp;</li><li>There is a&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/io9/status/1387557761605455872?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">very funny tweet thread</a>&nbsp;trying to drag the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vulture.com/2021/04/review-shadow-and-bone-almost-gets-lost-in-the-dark.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shadow and Bone TV show</a>, but the replies are terrific.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/FatedMates/status/1391433799582601217?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen was texting Sarah in the middle of the night</a>&nbsp;about Ravishing the Heiress, because of the angst!&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://hergraceslibrary.com/2018/11/26/author-interview-sherry-thomas/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Here’s an interview</a>&nbsp;where Sherry Thomas talks about how reading romance influenced her as a writer.</li><li>We&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/3/15/s0330-a-matter-of-class-by-mary-balogh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">talked about time slip</a>&nbsp;quite a bit on the episode for A Matter of Class by Mary Balogh.</li><li>Millie is 16 at the beginning of the book, and because Jen forgot to talk about it,&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1389739372833124353?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">she wrote a thread about Sherry’s deep respect for teenage girls.&nbsp;</a></li><li>A little bit about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21689069" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the history of tinned food</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://aliseckin.com/blog/victorian-age-and-the-birth-of-advertising/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the rise of advertising</a>&nbsp;in Victorian England.</li><li>All about&nbsp;<a href="https://a-z-animals.com/animals/dormouse/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the dormouse</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.treehugger.com/things-you-didnt-know-about-dormice-4868735" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">keeping them as pets</a>, if you’re into that sort of thing. Give us some credit for not making a joke about&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/DCM-sEpyh1Q" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Of Mice and Men</a>, thank you.&nbsp;</li><li>The Victorians were super extra. Here’s a primer&nbsp;<a href="https://qrius.com/portrait-of-a-lady-the-female-entrepreneur-in-england-and-wales-1851-1911/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">on women in business in the Victorian era</a>. Floriography is the Victorian name for&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_of_flowers" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the language of flowers</a>, which ascribes meanings to flowers and plants. For example,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.floraqueen.com/blog/the-chrysanthemum-flower-and-its-meaning-and-significance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">chrysanthemums</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.floraqueen.com/blog/what-do-lavender-flowers-mean#:~:text=The%20Lavender%20Flower's%20Message,-There%20is%20an&amp;text=You%20can%20ascertain%20its%20message,gets%20this%20meaning%20from%20it." rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lavender</a>&nbsp;(<a href="https://folgerpedia.folger.edu/mediawiki/media/images_pedia_folgerpedia_mw/3/3b/BHRemViolets.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">and yes rosemary is for remembrance is from Hamlet</a>) have very specific meanings. If you’re interested, check out the book&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3od05kz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Floriography: An Illustrated Guide to the Victorian Language of Flowers</a>&nbsp;by Jessica Roux.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.uslavender.org/index.php?Itemid=138&amp;catid=24%3Alavender-101&amp;id=97%3Alavender-and-bees&amp;option=com_content&amp;view=article" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bees that make honey from the nectar of lavender flowers</a>&nbsp;is a&nbsp;<a href="https://www.honeybeesuite.com/lavender-honey-from-the-source/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">different thing</a>&nbsp;than people who make&nbsp;<a href="https://www.food.com/recipe/homemade-lavender-honey-383209" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lavender-infused honey.</a>&nbsp;Now you know!</li><li><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/RomanceBooks/comments/epsriz/how_do_you_feel_about_infidelity_in_romance_novels/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Infidelity in Romance</a>&nbsp;is tricky, and Sarah’s book&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3od0rYr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Day of the Duchess</a>&nbsp;is an example, and there really aren’t that many out there.&nbsp;</li><li>The myth of Cupid &amp; Psyche in&nbsp;<a href="https://www.pitt.edu/~dash/cupid.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">literature</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://joyofmuseums.com/artists-index/cupid-and-psyche-in-art/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">art</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>In Season 4 of The Crown,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.elle.com/culture/movies-tv/a34975475/diana-camilla-lunch-the-crown/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the scene where Camilla Parker-Bowles takes Diana is based in truth</a>, but the name of the restaurant&nbsp;<a href="https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/welp-diana-camillas-irl-lunch-225600780.html?scrlybrkr=9e1d2dcc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">was not Menage a Trois</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Raise a glass to the incomparable&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/01/movies/olympia-dukakis-dead.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Olympia Dukakis.</a></li><li>Next up, we’re dialing the banana phone with&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/785166.Tangled_Lies" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tangled Lies by Anne Stuart.&nbsp;</a></li><li><a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/product-page/romancelandia-sticker-club" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Join BestFriendKelly’s Sticker of the Month Club</a>. If you put Fated Mates in the note, she’ll send a free sparkly Fated Mates sticker. If you’re already a member, drop her a note and she’ll include it with your next sticker.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/5/9/s0338-ravishing-the-heiress-by-sherry-thomas </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/5/9/s0338-ravishing-the-heiress-by-sherry-thomas]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:60981d1411cfee36ac2fc1ed</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2021 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/66019ed8-2e41-4172-b795-20eb69f09eba/fated-mates-sherrythomas-final.mp3" length="80765991" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:17:19</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>44</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>44</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We’re talking Sherry Thomas’s beautiful, unrequited love/marriage of convenience story Ravishing the Heiress this week — we’ll talk about angst, about why we love yearning so much, about our feelings about heroes who are dummies, about homes vs. houses, and about Victorians being E X T R A.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-66019ed8-2e41-4172-b795-20eb69f09eba.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S03.37: Widows in Romance</title><itunes:title>Widows in Romance</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We’re toppling TBRs this week with widow romances! We’re talking widows of all shapes and sizes…from virgin widows who murder their husbands in old school historicals to modern-day widows who are looking for love because they know how good it can be. If widow romances are your thing, we’re about to make you very happy!</p><p>Next week, we’re back with an interstitial, and in two weeks, we’re reading Sarah’s favorite Sherry Thomas book —<em>Ravishing the Heiress</em>. Find it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3tV1EWk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/ravishing-the-heiress-sherry-thomas/1107386651" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>,  <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/ravishing-the-heiress/id483268959?ct=books_ravishing_the_heiress&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_box_link&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/ravishing-the-heiress" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>.  </p><p>We’re also going to announce our next read along now, because it’s out of print (but available in audio!), so you will have to do a bit of a used bookstore hunt to get it! Get Anne Stuart’s truly bananas Tangled Lies at a used bookseller near you. We recommend checking <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Tangled-Lies-Anne-Stuart/dp/0373200013?ref_=nav_youraccount_switchacct" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&amp;_nkw=anne%20stuart%20tangled%20lies&amp;_sacat=0&amp;_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">eBay</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/tangled-lies-harlequin-intrigue_anne-stuart/630279/all-editions/?resultid=ae4e8e62-6264-4bbc-87d5-c67e00f6922e" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Thrift Books</a>. </p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! Please follow us on your favorite podcasting app, and if you are up for leaving a rating or review there, we would be very grateful!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Last week, we talked about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/12/books/pharma-gerald-posner.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Big Pharma</a>, and if you want more of that, read&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3egBc4o" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Empire of Pain by Patrick Radden Keefe</a>. It’s about the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.npr.org/2021/05/03/991648432/25-states-mount-legal-fight-to-block-sackler-bid-for-opioid-immunity" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sackler family</a>&nbsp;and how they made billions on&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/29/health/purdue-opioids-oxycontin.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Oxycontin which was a huge factor in the creation of the opioid epidemic.</a></li><li>Daisy Jones and the Six is a great novel, and the full-cast audiobook is supposed to be amazing.&nbsp;<a href="https://hello-sunshine.com/book-club" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Reese Witherspoon book club is the definition of the full glow-up.</a></li><li>Sarah made some Maple Oatmeal Muffins, and maybe you want the recipe.&nbsp;<a href="https://slate.com/technology/2017/12/why-does-every-online-recipe-begin-with-the-preface-to-a-personal-memoir.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Why food bloggers include some pre-recipe chatter.</a></li><li>The question of freshman year dorm room decoration is of new significance to Jen since Lil Romance will be heading off to college in the fall. Might we recommend a&nbsp;<a href="https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdulBtuWEAASXIP.jpg:large" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pulp Fiction movie poster</a>&nbsp;or some&nbsp;<a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/the-21-best-absolut-ads-2013-12#absolut-perfection-1980-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Absolut Vodka ads?</a></li><li>If we’re talking skyscrapers, meaning buildings over 150M (about 500 feet) tall, when this was recorded in April of 2021,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.clevelandskyscrapers.com/500" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleveland has 4</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.uncovercolorado.com/tallest-buildings-in-denver-co/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Denver has 7,</a>&nbsp; <a href="https://www.skyscrapercenter.com/city/chicago" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chicago has 127,</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.visualcapitalist.com/100-tallest-buildings-in-new-york-city/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">New York has 284.</a>&nbsp;According to wikipedia, only nine cities in the world have over 100 buildings 150M tall. The other seven are Hong Kong (355), Shenzhen (289), Dubai (201), Shanghai (163), Tokyo (158), Chongqing (127), and Guangzhou (118).</li><li>Check out&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thesassypodcast.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Sassy Podcast</a>&nbsp;and the Babysitter’s Club.&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/33dq3e5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">No, not that kind of babysitter</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>We love the movie&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/33d3qqg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Widows</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Merry_Widow" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">merry widow is an opera</a>&nbsp;and a kind of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thelingerieaddict.com/tag/merry-widow" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sexy lingerie</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>We did&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/2/5/65-freewheeling-with-joanna-shupe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">an episode on Prisoner of My Desire with Joanna Shupe</a>&nbsp;way back in season one.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.britannica.com/topic/primogeniture" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Primogeniture</a>&nbsp;laws are all about who inherits titles and money and estates, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-32073399" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wasn't changed in England until 2013</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Apparently there are lots of&nbsp;<a href="https://cowgirlmagazine.com/misconceptions-arabian-horses/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">misconceptions about Arabian horses</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>More about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.funeralbasics.org/8-intriguing-funeral-customs-victorian-era/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Victorian era mourning requirements.</a></li><li>Historically&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deceased_Wife%27s_Sister%27s_Marriage_Act_1907" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">you couldn’t marry your brother’s widow</a></li><li><a href="https://www.worldwildlife.org/species/gorilla" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">All about gorillas and where the live</a>, and actually it turns out&nbsp;<a href="https://slate.com/human-interest/2013/03/professional-fighter-vs-gorilla-who-would-win.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a gorilla really could kill you in a fight.</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/earl-takes-all-by-lorraine-heath-w-sarah-maclean-episode/id1440272585?i=1000457996408" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah was on Learning the Tropes talking about The Earl Takes All</a>, in case you need more of that.</li><li>Spoiler alert about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vulture.com/2021/04/who-is-the-power-broker-falcon-and-winter-soldier-post-credits-scene.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Power Broker in The Falcon and the Winter Soldier.</a></li><li>We have two read-along books in May. On the 12th, we’ll be reading&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3aZtcCI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ravishing the Heiress</a>&nbsp;by Sherry Thomas. On the 26th, we’ll be reading&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3vJcPlJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tangled Lies by Anne Stuart</a>. It’s out of print and not available as an eBook, so order a used copy from Amazon or ThriftBooks, or check out the audio.&nbsp;</li><li>Join the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/product-page/romancelandia-sticker-club" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"Romance sticker of the month" club</a></li><li>Preorder&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3nRfB5x" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bombshell</a>, which comes out August 24th.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/5/2/s0337-widows-in-romance-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We’re toppling TBRs this week with widow romances! We’re talking widows of all shapes and sizes…from virgin widows who murder their husbands in old school historicals to modern-day widows who are looking for love because they know how good it can be. If widow romances are your thing, we’re about to make you very happy!</p><p>Next week, we’re back with an interstitial, and in two weeks, we’re reading Sarah’s favorite Sherry Thomas book —<em>Ravishing the Heiress</em>. Find it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3tV1EWk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/ravishing-the-heiress-sherry-thomas/1107386651" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>,  <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/ravishing-the-heiress/id483268959?ct=books_ravishing_the_heiress&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_box_link&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/ravishing-the-heiress" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>.  </p><p>We’re also going to announce our next read along now, because it’s out of print (but available in audio!), so you will have to do a bit of a used bookstore hunt to get it! Get Anne Stuart’s truly bananas Tangled Lies at a used bookseller near you. We recommend checking <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Tangled-Lies-Anne-Stuart/dp/0373200013?ref_=nav_youraccount_switchacct" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&amp;_nkw=anne%20stuart%20tangled%20lies&amp;_sacat=0&amp;_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">eBay</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/tangled-lies-harlequin-intrigue_anne-stuart/630279/all-editions/?resultid=ae4e8e62-6264-4bbc-87d5-c67e00f6922e" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Thrift Books</a>. </p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! Please follow us on your favorite podcasting app, and if you are up for leaving a rating or review there, we would be very grateful!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Last week, we talked about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/12/books/pharma-gerald-posner.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Big Pharma</a>, and if you want more of that, read&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3egBc4o" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Empire of Pain by Patrick Radden Keefe</a>. It’s about the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.npr.org/2021/05/03/991648432/25-states-mount-legal-fight-to-block-sackler-bid-for-opioid-immunity" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sackler family</a>&nbsp;and how they made billions on&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/29/health/purdue-opioids-oxycontin.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Oxycontin which was a huge factor in the creation of the opioid epidemic.</a></li><li>Daisy Jones and the Six is a great novel, and the full-cast audiobook is supposed to be amazing.&nbsp;<a href="https://hello-sunshine.com/book-club" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Reese Witherspoon book club is the definition of the full glow-up.</a></li><li>Sarah made some Maple Oatmeal Muffins, and maybe you want the recipe.&nbsp;<a href="https://slate.com/technology/2017/12/why-does-every-online-recipe-begin-with-the-preface-to-a-personal-memoir.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Why food bloggers include some pre-recipe chatter.</a></li><li>The question of freshman year dorm room decoration is of new significance to Jen since Lil Romance will be heading off to college in the fall. Might we recommend a&nbsp;<a href="https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdulBtuWEAASXIP.jpg:large" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pulp Fiction movie poster</a>&nbsp;or some&nbsp;<a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/the-21-best-absolut-ads-2013-12#absolut-perfection-1980-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Absolut Vodka ads?</a></li><li>If we’re talking skyscrapers, meaning buildings over 150M (about 500 feet) tall, when this was recorded in April of 2021,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.clevelandskyscrapers.com/500" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleveland has 4</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.uncovercolorado.com/tallest-buildings-in-denver-co/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Denver has 7,</a>&nbsp; <a href="https://www.skyscrapercenter.com/city/chicago" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chicago has 127,</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.visualcapitalist.com/100-tallest-buildings-in-new-york-city/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">New York has 284.</a>&nbsp;According to wikipedia, only nine cities in the world have over 100 buildings 150M tall. The other seven are Hong Kong (355), Shenzhen (289), Dubai (201), Shanghai (163), Tokyo (158), Chongqing (127), and Guangzhou (118).</li><li>Check out&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thesassypodcast.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Sassy Podcast</a>&nbsp;and the Babysitter’s Club.&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/33dq3e5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">No, not that kind of babysitter</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>We love the movie&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/33d3qqg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Widows</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Merry_Widow" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">merry widow is an opera</a>&nbsp;and a kind of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thelingerieaddict.com/tag/merry-widow" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sexy lingerie</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>We did&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/2/5/65-freewheeling-with-joanna-shupe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">an episode on Prisoner of My Desire with Joanna Shupe</a>&nbsp;way back in season one.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.britannica.com/topic/primogeniture" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Primogeniture</a>&nbsp;laws are all about who inherits titles and money and estates, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-32073399" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wasn't changed in England until 2013</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Apparently there are lots of&nbsp;<a href="https://cowgirlmagazine.com/misconceptions-arabian-horses/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">misconceptions about Arabian horses</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>More about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.funeralbasics.org/8-intriguing-funeral-customs-victorian-era/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Victorian era mourning requirements.</a></li><li>Historically&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deceased_Wife%27s_Sister%27s_Marriage_Act_1907" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">you couldn’t marry your brother’s widow</a></li><li><a href="https://www.worldwildlife.org/species/gorilla" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">All about gorillas and where the live</a>, and actually it turns out&nbsp;<a href="https://slate.com/human-interest/2013/03/professional-fighter-vs-gorilla-who-would-win.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a gorilla really could kill you in a fight.</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/earl-takes-all-by-lorraine-heath-w-sarah-maclean-episode/id1440272585?i=1000457996408" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah was on Learning the Tropes talking about The Earl Takes All</a>, in case you need more of that.</li><li>Spoiler alert about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vulture.com/2021/04/who-is-the-power-broker-falcon-and-winter-soldier-post-credits-scene.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Power Broker in The Falcon and the Winter Soldier.</a></li><li>We have two read-along books in May. On the 12th, we’ll be reading&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3aZtcCI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ravishing the Heiress</a>&nbsp;by Sherry Thomas. On the 26th, we’ll be reading&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3vJcPlJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tangled Lies by Anne Stuart</a>. It’s out of print and not available as an eBook, so order a used copy from Amazon or ThriftBooks, or check out the audio.&nbsp;</li><li>Join the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/product-page/romancelandia-sticker-club" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"Romance sticker of the month" club</a></li><li>Preorder&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3nRfB5x" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bombshell</a>, which comes out August 24th.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/5/2/s0337-widows-in-romance-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/5/2/s0337-widows-in-romance-interstitial]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:608ea3076cc4f80f2f7b3292</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2021 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/310b5771-03da-4985-8609-955f3a38ba3d/fated-mates-widows-final.mp3" length="79994266" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:17:22</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>43</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>43</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We’re toppling TBRs this week with widow romances! We’re talking widows of all shapes and sizes…from virgin widows who murder their husbands in old school historicals to modern-day widows who are looking for love because they know how good it can be. If widow romances are your thing, we’re about to make you very happy!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-310b5771-03da-4985-8609-955f3a38ba3d.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S03.36: Whiteout by Adriana Anders: You and Me Against the World</title><itunes:title>Whiteout by Adriana Anders: You and Me Against the World</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This week, we’re tackling Romantic Suspense and reading one of our favorite books of 2020, Adriana Anders’s <em>Whiteout</em>! We talk about all the things romantic suspense has to nail (ha!) to knock it out of the park, why we would literally never be characters in a book set in Antarctica, and the wild feeling of reading a romantic suspense about a virus during a pandemic. Also Sarah talks about how much she loves Adriana Anders’s writing and recommends lots of backlist.   </p><p>Next week, we’re back with an interstitial, and in two weeks, we’re reading Sarah’s favorite Sherry Thomas book —<em>Ravishing the Heiress</em>. Find it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3tV1EWk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/ravishing-the-heiress-sherry-thomas/1107386651" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>,  <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/ravishing-the-heiress/id483268959?ct=books_ravishing_the_heiress&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_box_link&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/ravishing-the-heiress" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>.  </p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! Please follow us on your favorite podcasting app, and if you are up for leaving a rating or review there, we would be very grateful!</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li><a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/on-tenterhooks-origin-meaning-phrase" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">It’s tenterhooks, not tenderhooks.&nbsp;</a></li><li>Apparently Jen&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/20/health/sleep-dementia-risk.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">needs more sleep,</a>&nbsp;or else it’s gonna be a real drag on future seasons of Fated Mates.&nbsp;</li><li>Jen&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1228787624619511808?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tweeted</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1228791597778788352?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">about</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1262788373846151172?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Whiteout</a>&nbsp;a lot, put it on our&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/11/23/s0316-best-romance-novels-of-2020" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Best of 2020 list</a>, and even&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/FatedMates/status/1385929699780661250?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">made a meme about it</a>&nbsp;last week.&nbsp;</li><li>Reading a book&nbsp;<a href="https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/21214-coronavirus-covid-19" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">about a virus</a>&nbsp;during a pandemic is kind of wild!&nbsp;</li><li>Jen and Sarah are not campers, but we support you. We do like reading books about people doing extremely cold outside things:&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2QV1ZtN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Into Thin Air</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2QZBcfz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Into the Wild</a>, and a new book on Jen’s TBR is&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3vaZBh8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Next Everest</a>&nbsp;by Jim Davidson.</li><li><a href="https://www.novelsuspects.com/author-essay/how-to-write-romantic-suspense/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Let Sandra Brown explain romantic suspense</a>&nbsp;to you, and maybe you’d like to read&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3dPOpkn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jack Reacher</a>&nbsp;if you’re into that sort of thing.</li><li>We learned some things about Antarctica and staying warm while reading this book:&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.antarctica.gov.au/about-antarctica/people-in-antarctica/how-cold-is-it/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">How cold did you say it was again?</a></li><li><a href="https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/hypothermia" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Why are frostbite and hypothermia so dangerous?</a></li><li><a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/extreme-cold-weather-how-long-can-a-person-survive-hypothermia-sub-zero-temperatures/#:~:text=Hypothermia%20can%20develop%20in%20as,in%20in%20about%2010%20minutes." rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">How fast can you get hypothermia?</a></li><li><a href="https://www.menshealth.com/trending-news/a19548271/why-penis-shrinks-in-cold/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What would really happen to a penis in super cold weather?</a></li><li><a href="https://www.usap.gov/travelanddeployment/1860/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What's the deal with the red puffy jacket?</a></li><li><a href="https://www.outsideonline.com/2380011/gear-propelled-colin-obrady-across-antarctica" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What was all that other gear Angel and Ford had?</a></li><li><a href="https://www.womanandhome.com/health-and-wellbeing/fat-bombs-207001/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What are fat bombs?</a></li><li><a href="https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2014/01/07/259418586/think-youre-cold-and-hungry-try-eating-in-antarctica" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Do people really burn 6000 calories a day there?</a></li><li><a href="https://www.outsideonline.com/2121106/will-man-be-last-trek-north-pole" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Can you really go 300 miles on foot?</a></li><li><a href="https://icecores.org/about-ice-cores" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What is an ice core</a> <a href="http://www.antarcticglaciers.org/glaciers-and-climate/ice-cores/ice-core-basics/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">and why do scientists study them?</a></li><li><a href="https://www.southpolestation.com/trivia/00s/utilidor2.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Are ice tunnels real?</a></li><li><a href="https://www.nationalgeographic.com/adventure/article/Antarctic-winter-risks-for-pilots-and-planes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Why is flying a plane in Antartica so dangerous?</a></li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/JjB_jGoIzRs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What about driving</a> <a href="https://jalopnik.com/the-land-vehicles-of-antarctica-5379341" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">vehicles?</a></li><li><a href="https://www.outsideonline.com/2146171/how-survive-swim-antarctic" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Or swimming?</a></li><li><a href="https://www.mountainiq.com/antarctica/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">There are mountain ranges in Antartica?</a></li><li><a href="https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/article/krakauer-in-antarctica/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What's the terrain like?</a> <a href="https://news.climate.columbia.edu/2017/11/16/crevasses-antarctic-ice-fractures/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Is that cravasee thing real?</a></li><li><a href="https://www.skilledsurvival.com/clay-pot-candle-heater/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Can you really make a heater out of a tealight candle?</a></li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/KUU7IyfR34o" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Why are there seasons?</a>?</li><li><a href="https://theoutline.com/post/4387/antarctica-polar-winter-science-seasonal-depressive-disorder-big-bang-astronomy-health-sunset" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What is Polar Night?</a> <a href="https://youtu.be/SVOuYquXuuc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Was it just a coincidence that you released this episode concurrently with the onset of Polar Night in Antartica?</a></li><li><a href="last-trek-north-pole" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Outside of murdering people for their ice core samples, are people doing crimes in Antarctica?</a></li><li><a href="https://www.outsideonline.com/2385356/arctic-film-mads-mikkelsen-real-accurate" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">How accurate is the movie Arctic</a> <a href="https://youtu.be/N5aD9ppoQIo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with Mads Mikkleson?</a></li><li><a href="https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/environment/a26092076/nasa-found-a-giant-underground-cavern-in-antarctica-almost-the-size-of-manhattan/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">How's Antartica doing in global climate change?</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/AmyCliber/status/1386069396993581062?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Thanks to Amy</a>, one of our listeners, we now know that&nbsp;<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@joespinstheglobe?lang=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Antarctica TikTok exists</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>The two ice stations in the book&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nsf.gov/geo/opp/support/mcmurdo.jsp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">McMurdo</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/82672/flying-over-vostok-station" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vostok</a>&nbsp;are real&nbsp;<a href="https://www.insider.com/daily-life-in-antarctic-research-stations-2018-11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">research stations</a>, and actually&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Research_stations_in_Antarctica" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">there are way more of these stations than you’d think.&nbsp;</a></li><li>Angel calls Ford the Iceman, but&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/HNR_HofJ_Fs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">not that Iceman</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>If you want to read more about racism and greed in American pharmaceutical companies, you might be interested in&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/32J9Hd4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Empire of Pain</a>, Patrick Radden Keefe’s new book about the Sackler family, about&nbsp;<a...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, we’re tackling Romantic Suspense and reading one of our favorite books of 2020, Adriana Anders’s <em>Whiteout</em>! We talk about all the things romantic suspense has to nail (ha!) to knock it out of the park, why we would literally never be characters in a book set in Antarctica, and the wild feeling of reading a romantic suspense about a virus during a pandemic. Also Sarah talks about how much she loves Adriana Anders’s writing and recommends lots of backlist.   </p><p>Next week, we’re back with an interstitial, and in two weeks, we’re reading Sarah’s favorite Sherry Thomas book —<em>Ravishing the Heiress</em>. Find it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3tV1EWk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/ravishing-the-heiress-sherry-thomas/1107386651" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>,  <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/ravishing-the-heiress/id483268959?ct=books_ravishing_the_heiress&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_box_link&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/ravishing-the-heiress" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>.  </p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! Please follow us on your favorite podcasting app, and if you are up for leaving a rating or review there, we would be very grateful!</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li><a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/on-tenterhooks-origin-meaning-phrase" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">It’s tenterhooks, not tenderhooks.&nbsp;</a></li><li>Apparently Jen&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/20/health/sleep-dementia-risk.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">needs more sleep,</a>&nbsp;or else it’s gonna be a real drag on future seasons of Fated Mates.&nbsp;</li><li>Jen&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1228787624619511808?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tweeted</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1228791597778788352?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">about</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1262788373846151172?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Whiteout</a>&nbsp;a lot, put it on our&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/11/23/s0316-best-romance-novels-of-2020" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Best of 2020 list</a>, and even&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/FatedMates/status/1385929699780661250?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">made a meme about it</a>&nbsp;last week.&nbsp;</li><li>Reading a book&nbsp;<a href="https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/21214-coronavirus-covid-19" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">about a virus</a>&nbsp;during a pandemic is kind of wild!&nbsp;</li><li>Jen and Sarah are not campers, but we support you. We do like reading books about people doing extremely cold outside things:&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2QV1ZtN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Into Thin Air</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2QZBcfz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Into the Wild</a>, and a new book on Jen’s TBR is&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3vaZBh8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Next Everest</a>&nbsp;by Jim Davidson.</li><li><a href="https://www.novelsuspects.com/author-essay/how-to-write-romantic-suspense/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Let Sandra Brown explain romantic suspense</a>&nbsp;to you, and maybe you’d like to read&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3dPOpkn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jack Reacher</a>&nbsp;if you’re into that sort of thing.</li><li>We learned some things about Antarctica and staying warm while reading this book:&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.antarctica.gov.au/about-antarctica/people-in-antarctica/how-cold-is-it/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">How cold did you say it was again?</a></li><li><a href="https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/hypothermia" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Why are frostbite and hypothermia so dangerous?</a></li><li><a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/extreme-cold-weather-how-long-can-a-person-survive-hypothermia-sub-zero-temperatures/#:~:text=Hypothermia%20can%20develop%20in%20as,in%20in%20about%2010%20minutes." rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">How fast can you get hypothermia?</a></li><li><a href="https://www.menshealth.com/trending-news/a19548271/why-penis-shrinks-in-cold/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What would really happen to a penis in super cold weather?</a></li><li><a href="https://www.usap.gov/travelanddeployment/1860/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What's the deal with the red puffy jacket?</a></li><li><a href="https://www.outsideonline.com/2380011/gear-propelled-colin-obrady-across-antarctica" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What was all that other gear Angel and Ford had?</a></li><li><a href="https://www.womanandhome.com/health-and-wellbeing/fat-bombs-207001/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What are fat bombs?</a></li><li><a href="https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2014/01/07/259418586/think-youre-cold-and-hungry-try-eating-in-antarctica" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Do people really burn 6000 calories a day there?</a></li><li><a href="https://www.outsideonline.com/2121106/will-man-be-last-trek-north-pole" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Can you really go 300 miles on foot?</a></li><li><a href="https://icecores.org/about-ice-cores" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What is an ice core</a> <a href="http://www.antarcticglaciers.org/glaciers-and-climate/ice-cores/ice-core-basics/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">and why do scientists study them?</a></li><li><a href="https://www.southpolestation.com/trivia/00s/utilidor2.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Are ice tunnels real?</a></li><li><a href="https://www.nationalgeographic.com/adventure/article/Antarctic-winter-risks-for-pilots-and-planes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Why is flying a plane in Antartica so dangerous?</a></li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/JjB_jGoIzRs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What about driving</a> <a href="https://jalopnik.com/the-land-vehicles-of-antarctica-5379341" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">vehicles?</a></li><li><a href="https://www.outsideonline.com/2146171/how-survive-swim-antarctic" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Or swimming?</a></li><li><a href="https://www.mountainiq.com/antarctica/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">There are mountain ranges in Antartica?</a></li><li><a href="https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/article/krakauer-in-antarctica/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What's the terrain like?</a> <a href="https://news.climate.columbia.edu/2017/11/16/crevasses-antarctic-ice-fractures/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Is that cravasee thing real?</a></li><li><a href="https://www.skilledsurvival.com/clay-pot-candle-heater/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Can you really make a heater out of a tealight candle?</a></li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/KUU7IyfR34o" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Why are there seasons?</a>?</li><li><a href="https://theoutline.com/post/4387/antarctica-polar-winter-science-seasonal-depressive-disorder-big-bang-astronomy-health-sunset" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What is Polar Night?</a> <a href="https://youtu.be/SVOuYquXuuc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Was it just a coincidence that you released this episode concurrently with the onset of Polar Night in Antartica?</a></li><li><a href="last-trek-north-pole" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Outside of murdering people for their ice core samples, are people doing crimes in Antarctica?</a></li><li><a href="https://www.outsideonline.com/2385356/arctic-film-mads-mikkelsen-real-accurate" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">How accurate is the movie Arctic</a> <a href="https://youtu.be/N5aD9ppoQIo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with Mads Mikkleson?</a></li><li><a href="https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/environment/a26092076/nasa-found-a-giant-underground-cavern-in-antarctica-almost-the-size-of-manhattan/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">How's Antartica doing in global climate change?</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/AmyCliber/status/1386069396993581062?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Thanks to Amy</a>, one of our listeners, we now know that&nbsp;<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@joespinstheglobe?lang=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Antarctica TikTok exists</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>The two ice stations in the book&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nsf.gov/geo/opp/support/mcmurdo.jsp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">McMurdo</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/82672/flying-over-vostok-station" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vostok</a>&nbsp;are real&nbsp;<a href="https://www.insider.com/daily-life-in-antarctic-research-stations-2018-11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">research stations</a>, and actually&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Research_stations_in_Antarctica" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">there are way more of these stations than you’d think.&nbsp;</a></li><li>Angel calls Ford the Iceman, but&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/HNR_HofJ_Fs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">not that Iceman</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>If you want to read more about racism and greed in American pharmaceutical companies, you might be interested in&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/32J9Hd4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Empire of Pain</a>, Patrick Radden Keefe’s new book about the Sackler family, about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/11/business/pfizer-vaccine-covid-moderna-revenue/index.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pfizer and Moderna and the COVID vaccine,</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3eyYjG0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Henrietta Lacks</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/history/40-years-human-experimentation-america-tuskegee-study" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Tuskegee experiments,</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2020/4/8/medical-colonialism-in-africa-is-not-new" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">medical colonialism</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/12/books/pharma-gerald-posner.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the list goes on and on</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2S6TsVf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Big Bad Wolf by Suleikha Snyder</a>&nbsp;isn’t a critique of big pharma, but it is a fierce critique of the American system of justice.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.nownovel.com/blog/use-chekhovs-gun/#:~:text='Chekhov's%20Gun'%20is%20a%20concept,'" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chekhov's Gun</a>&nbsp;is an axiom by the playwright about how props on stage must come into the plot.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.oldtownbooks.com/?q=p.fated_mates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">You can still order the Fated Mates Best of 2020 pack from Old Town Books</a>.&nbsp;</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/4/24/s0336-whiteout-by-adriana-anders </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/4/24/s0336-whiteout-by-adriana-anders]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:6084ab56bf28a5405717bdf9</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2021 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/396ef42a-c871-413e-b99f-f108bd965b4d/fated-mates-whitehout-final.mp3" length="76255412" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:12:30</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>42</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>42</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>This week, we’re tackling Romantic Suspense and reading one of our favorite books of 2020, Adriana Anders’s Whiteout! We talk about all the things romantic suspense has to nail (ha!) to knock it out of the park, why we would literally never be characters in a book set in Antarctica, and the wild feeling of reading a romantic suspense about a virus during a pandemic. Also Sarah talks about how much she loves Adriana Anders’s writing and recommends lots of backlist.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-396ef42a-c871-413e-b99f-f108bd965b4d.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S03.35: Second Chance Romance with Priscilla Oliveras</title><itunes:title>Second Chance Romance with Priscilla Oliveras</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We’re thrilled to be joined by the wonderful Priscilla Oliveras to talk about second chance romance and her new book (out next week!), <em>Anchored Hearts</em>. We talk about our favorite second chance romances and dig into the Venn diagram of second chance, marriage in trouble, secret baby, childhood sweethearts, and one night stands. We also talk about the hard truths of face transplants, the way characters in romance have to do their own emotional work, and how we love it when they remember every bit of a kiss from a decade before.  </p><p>Preorder the delightful <em>Anchored Hearts</em> at <a href="https://amzn.to/32uVT5T" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/anchored-hearts-priscilla-oliveras/1139116312" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/anchored-hearts/id1531329937?ct=books_anchored_hearts&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_box_link&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/anchored-hearts-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781420150193" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local indie</a>.</p><p>Next week, we’re we’re reading a romantic suspense—<em>Whiteout</em> by Adriana Anders. Find it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3tiKYHZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a> (free in KU!), <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/whiteout-adriana-anders/1129678146" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>,  <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/whiteout/id1453420809?ct=books_whiteout&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_box_link&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/whiteout-51" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781492698708" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local indie</a>.  You can also get it along with our other picks for best books of 2020 as part of the <a href="https://www.oldtownbooks.com/?q=p.fated_mates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates pack from Old Town Books</a> in Alexandria, VA!</p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! Please follow us on your favorite podcasting app, and if you are up for leaving a rating or review there, we would be very grateful!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome&nbsp;<a href="https://prisoliveras.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Priscilla Oliveras!</a>&nbsp;Her next novel, Anchored Hearts comes out next Tuesday, April 27th.&nbsp;<a href="https://shop.lovessweetarrow.com/anchoredhearts" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">You can order signed copies (bookplates) with recipe cards from Love’s Sweet Arrow.</a>&nbsp;The first in the series,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3n3SdRS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Island Affair</a>, has the fake relationship trope.&nbsp;</li><li>Key West things Priscilla mentioned: the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.keywesthalfmarathon.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">half marathon in January</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.elmesondepepe.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Cuban restaurant El Mason de Pepe.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/15200.Best_Second_Chance_Romance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">This Goodreads list of second chance romance has over a thousand titles!&nbsp;</a></li><li><a href="https://insider.si.edu/2017/07/pedro-pan-childrens-exodus-cuba/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Operation Peter Pan</a>&nbsp;moved over 14,000 unaccompanied minors from Cuba to the US between 1960-1962.</li><li>We think&nbsp;<a href="https://multisport.ph/2018/03/heres-everything-that-could-go-wrong-with-cliff-diving/#:~:text=The%20biggest%20threat%20to%20cliff,broken%20bones%20or%20a%20concussion." rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">cliff diving might be a bad idea.</a></li><li>In Wild Card and The Highwayman, the heroine doesn't recognize the hero, but the absolute pinnacle of this is the 1997 movie Face/Off with John Travolta and Nic Cage.&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/8ce557hlgEM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">You honestly have to see it to believe it.&nbsp;</a></li><li><a href="https://genius.com/Lin-manuel-miranda-and-leslie-odom-jr-dear-theodosia-lyrics" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Theodosia</a>&nbsp;is a name we all know from Hamilton. Aaron Burr married Theodosia Bartow Prevost, and it was an age gap romance! she was a decade older than he was. Their daughter Theodosia was their only child to survive to adulthood.&nbsp;</li><li>Here is&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/VaCUsrMTO0g" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a very nice video of NWSL players sliding on their knees after scoring goals</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>That person you liked in high school?&nbsp;<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@jaronmyerscomedy/video/6927781953684933894?is_copy_url=0&amp;is_from_webapp=v1&amp;sender_device=pc&amp;sender_web_id=6908124436122043910" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">You're the one that got away, not the other way around.&nbsp;</a></li><li>Next week, we'll be discussing&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/32K02TH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Whiteout by Adriana Anders</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/4/19/s0335-second-chance-romance-interstitial-with-priscilla-oliveras </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We’re thrilled to be joined by the wonderful Priscilla Oliveras to talk about second chance romance and her new book (out next week!), <em>Anchored Hearts</em>. We talk about our favorite second chance romances and dig into the Venn diagram of second chance, marriage in trouble, secret baby, childhood sweethearts, and one night stands. We also talk about the hard truths of face transplants, the way characters in romance have to do their own emotional work, and how we love it when they remember every bit of a kiss from a decade before.  </p><p>Preorder the delightful <em>Anchored Hearts</em> at <a href="https://amzn.to/32uVT5T" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/anchored-hearts-priscilla-oliveras/1139116312" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/anchored-hearts/id1531329937?ct=books_anchored_hearts&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_box_link&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/anchored-hearts-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781420150193" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local indie</a>.</p><p>Next week, we’re we’re reading a romantic suspense—<em>Whiteout</em> by Adriana Anders. Find it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3tiKYHZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a> (free in KU!), <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/whiteout-adriana-anders/1129678146" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>,  <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/whiteout/id1453420809?ct=books_whiteout&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_box_link&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/whiteout-51" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781492698708" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local indie</a>.  You can also get it along with our other picks for best books of 2020 as part of the <a href="https://www.oldtownbooks.com/?q=p.fated_mates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates pack from Old Town Books</a> in Alexandria, VA!</p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! Please follow us on your favorite podcasting app, and if you are up for leaving a rating or review there, we would be very grateful!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome&nbsp;<a href="https://prisoliveras.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Priscilla Oliveras!</a>&nbsp;Her next novel, Anchored Hearts comes out next Tuesday, April 27th.&nbsp;<a href="https://shop.lovessweetarrow.com/anchoredhearts" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">You can order signed copies (bookplates) with recipe cards from Love’s Sweet Arrow.</a>&nbsp;The first in the series,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3n3SdRS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Island Affair</a>, has the fake relationship trope.&nbsp;</li><li>Key West things Priscilla mentioned: the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.keywesthalfmarathon.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">half marathon in January</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.elmesondepepe.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Cuban restaurant El Mason de Pepe.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/15200.Best_Second_Chance_Romance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">This Goodreads list of second chance romance has over a thousand titles!&nbsp;</a></li><li><a href="https://insider.si.edu/2017/07/pedro-pan-childrens-exodus-cuba/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Operation Peter Pan</a>&nbsp;moved over 14,000 unaccompanied minors from Cuba to the US between 1960-1962.</li><li>We think&nbsp;<a href="https://multisport.ph/2018/03/heres-everything-that-could-go-wrong-with-cliff-diving/#:~:text=The%20biggest%20threat%20to%20cliff,broken%20bones%20or%20a%20concussion." rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">cliff diving might be a bad idea.</a></li><li>In Wild Card and The Highwayman, the heroine doesn't recognize the hero, but the absolute pinnacle of this is the 1997 movie Face/Off with John Travolta and Nic Cage.&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/8ce557hlgEM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">You honestly have to see it to believe it.&nbsp;</a></li><li><a href="https://genius.com/Lin-manuel-miranda-and-leslie-odom-jr-dear-theodosia-lyrics" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Theodosia</a>&nbsp;is a name we all know from Hamilton. Aaron Burr married Theodosia Bartow Prevost, and it was an age gap romance! she was a decade older than he was. Their daughter Theodosia was their only child to survive to adulthood.&nbsp;</li><li>Here is&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/VaCUsrMTO0g" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a very nice video of NWSL players sliding on their knees after scoring goals</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>That person you liked in high school?&nbsp;<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@jaronmyerscomedy/video/6927781953684933894?is_copy_url=0&amp;is_from_webapp=v1&amp;sender_device=pc&amp;sender_web_id=6908124436122043910" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">You're the one that got away, not the other way around.&nbsp;</a></li><li>Next week, we'll be discussing&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/32K02TH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Whiteout by Adriana Anders</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/4/19/s0335-second-chance-romance-interstitial-with-priscilla-oliveras </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/4/19/s0335-second-chance-romance-interstitial-with-priscilla-oliveras]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:607d8f79d5635d65ccb85512</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2021 14:11:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/c7678309-3b94-4759-82a5-4392f28ce848/fated-mates-second-chance-final-reva.mp3" length="77626385" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:14:34</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>41</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>41</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We’re thrilled to be joined by the wonderful Priscilla Oliveras to talk about second chance romance and her new book (out next week!), Anchored Hearts. We talk about our favorite second chance romances and dig into the Venn diagram of second chance, marriage in trouble, secret baby, childhood sweethearts, and one night stands. We also talk about the hard truths of face transplants, the way characters in romance have to do their own emotional work, and how we love it when they remember every bit of a kiss from a decade before.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-c7678309-3b94-4759-82a5-4392f28ce848.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S03.34: Captain of All Pleasures by Kresley Cole: There&apos;s Only One Bunk</title><itunes:title>Captain of All Pleasures by Kresley Cole: There&apos;s Only One Bunk</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Rounding the corner on Season Three, and we’re missing Kresley Cole! This week, we read a book neither of us have read before — Kresley’s <em>Captain of All Pleasures</em>. A Victorian pirate book about a ship race. We talk about the magic of the debut romance, why pirates are often times icky, and why setting a book on a boat is risky business.  </p><p>Next week, we’re back with an interstitial, and in two weeks, we’re reading a romantic suspense—<em>Whiteout</em> by Adriana Anders. Find it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3tiKYHZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a> (free in KU!), <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/whiteout-adriana-anders/1129678146" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>,  <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/whiteout/id1453420809?ct=books_whiteout&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_box_link&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/whiteout-51" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781492698708" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local indie</a>.  </p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! Please follow us on your favorite podcasting app, and if you are up for leaving a rating or review there, we would be very grateful!</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>The requisite coronavirus chat: Sarah was very sick in 2020 and Kate and Jen did a&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/3/9/s0227-sickbed-romance-interstitial-with-kate-clayborn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“sickbed scenes” interstitial</a>&nbsp;without her. Jen said someone is going to&nbsp;<a href="https://imageoscillite.com/post/646685426467422208/peaches-pussy-mask" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">make a jingle out of “Fauci Ouchie”</a>&nbsp;and it already happened.&nbsp;</li><li>Sarah’s upcoming book is available for pre-order. The title is&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2RziAnd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bombshell</a>&nbsp;and it comes out August 24, 2021. You can&nbsp;<a href="https://ew.com/books/sarah-maclean-bombshell-cover-preview/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">read this interview with Sarah</a>&nbsp;when EW did the cover reveal.&nbsp;</li><li>Check out&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/the-books" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Season one, which is all about Kresley Cole’s Immortals After Dark series.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/author/lisa-kleypas~4201.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Quite a few of Lisa Kleypas’s earliest novels</a>&nbsp;are out of print and not available as eBooks, but you can probably find them used on eBay or Amazon.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2Q0pIsi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nine Rules to Break When Romancing a Rake</a>&nbsp;is Sarah’s debut, you should read it.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.npr.org/2011/07/19/138514209/why-borders-failed-while-barnes-and-noble-survived" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Borders was a bookstore that closed in 2011</a>. Goodreads was invented in 2007 but&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/13/books/goodreadscom-is-growing-as-a-popular-book-site.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">took a few years to become popular</a>, but&nbsp;<a href="https://coloradoreview.colostate.edu/goodreads-changed-my-life-and-then-it-got-bought-by-amazon/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">once it was bought by Amazon, it completely stagnated</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Sarah was probably talking about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/sports/sporting-scene/complexity-and-the-ten-thousand-hour-rule" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Malcolm Gladwell’s 10,000 hours of practice rule</a>, but&nbsp;<a href="https://literatureandlibation.com/2013/04/30/ten-thousand-hours-five-million-words/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">how many words would that actually be?</a></li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://evanovich.com/plum-series/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stephanie Plum series is now on book number 27</a>, and all Jen has to say is&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/275260-morelli-vs-ranger----the-never-ending-stephanie-plum-series-love-triang" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#TeamRanger forever</a>. Don’t @ her.</li><li>Here’s&nbsp;<a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/author/kresley-cole~32343.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kresley’s FictionDB page</a>&nbsp;for a complete list of her books in order.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/expeditions/on-the-importance-of-names-part-two-whats-the-difference-between-a-boat-and-a-ship/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ships vs. boats</a>, if getting those names is important to you, I guess.&nbsp;</li><li>The Amazing Race arc of IAD takes place over two books,&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/27/2-the-best-led-zeppelin-song-is-by-pink-floyd-no-rest-for-the-wicked" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">No Rest for the Wicked</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/3-something-we-said-wicked-deeds-on-a-winters-night" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wicked Deeds on a Winter’s Night</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3uOSR8q" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Again the Magic</a>&nbsp;was actually published in 2004, a year after Captain of All Pleasures.&nbsp;</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Age_of_Piracy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">golden age of pirates</a>&nbsp;was between 1650 and the 1730s, and of course&nbsp;<a href="https://www.neh.gov/humanities/2017/winter/feature/lot-what-known-about-pirates-not-true-and-lot-what-true-not-known" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">our actual knowledge of pirates and piracy is limited</a>. But most recently, of course, there are the&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piracy_off_the_coast_of_Somalia" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Somali pirates</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Tea_Race_of_1866#Route" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The race</a>&nbsp;in Captain of All Pleasures was probably based on&nbsp;<a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-great-tea-race-of-1866-8209465/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Great Tea Race of 1866.&nbsp;</a></li><li><a href="https://people.howstuffworks.com/culture-traditions/body-art/henna-tattoo.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The history of henna tattoos</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.debretts.com/expertise/essential-guide-to-the-peerage/ranks-and-privileges-of-the-peerage/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A marchioness is a higher rank than an earl</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DrJenGunter" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dr. Gunter</a>&nbsp;has some information for you&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/CMQ5dw9Astp/?igshid=q2tk7sx38g8x" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">about the hymen</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/7FBeQU9Cvyc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">That’s what she said.&nbsp;</a></li><li>Hattie ties Whit to a mast in&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3dfzUWu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brazen and the Beast</a>, in case you want more of that.&nbsp;</li><li>Next up,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/32pSR2R" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Whiteout by Adriana Anders.</a></li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/4/13/s0334-captain-of-all-pleasures-by-kresley-cole </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rounding the corner on Season Three, and we’re missing Kresley Cole! This week, we read a book neither of us have read before — Kresley’s <em>Captain of All Pleasures</em>. A Victorian pirate book about a ship race. We talk about the magic of the debut romance, why pirates are often times icky, and why setting a book on a boat is risky business.  </p><p>Next week, we’re back with an interstitial, and in two weeks, we’re reading a romantic suspense—<em>Whiteout</em> by Adriana Anders. Find it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3tiKYHZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a> (free in KU!), <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/whiteout-adriana-anders/1129678146" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>,  <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/whiteout/id1453420809?ct=books_whiteout&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_box_link&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/whiteout-51" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781492698708" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local indie</a>.  </p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! Please follow us on your favorite podcasting app, and if you are up for leaving a rating or review there, we would be very grateful!</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>The requisite coronavirus chat: Sarah was very sick in 2020 and Kate and Jen did a&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/3/9/s0227-sickbed-romance-interstitial-with-kate-clayborn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“sickbed scenes” interstitial</a>&nbsp;without her. Jen said someone is going to&nbsp;<a href="https://imageoscillite.com/post/646685426467422208/peaches-pussy-mask" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">make a jingle out of “Fauci Ouchie”</a>&nbsp;and it already happened.&nbsp;</li><li>Sarah’s upcoming book is available for pre-order. The title is&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2RziAnd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bombshell</a>&nbsp;and it comes out August 24, 2021. You can&nbsp;<a href="https://ew.com/books/sarah-maclean-bombshell-cover-preview/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">read this interview with Sarah</a>&nbsp;when EW did the cover reveal.&nbsp;</li><li>Check out&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/the-books" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Season one, which is all about Kresley Cole’s Immortals After Dark series.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/author/lisa-kleypas~4201.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Quite a few of Lisa Kleypas’s earliest novels</a>&nbsp;are out of print and not available as eBooks, but you can probably find them used on eBay or Amazon.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2Q0pIsi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nine Rules to Break When Romancing a Rake</a>&nbsp;is Sarah’s debut, you should read it.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.npr.org/2011/07/19/138514209/why-borders-failed-while-barnes-and-noble-survived" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Borders was a bookstore that closed in 2011</a>. Goodreads was invented in 2007 but&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/13/books/goodreadscom-is-growing-as-a-popular-book-site.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">took a few years to become popular</a>, but&nbsp;<a href="https://coloradoreview.colostate.edu/goodreads-changed-my-life-and-then-it-got-bought-by-amazon/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">once it was bought by Amazon, it completely stagnated</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Sarah was probably talking about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/sports/sporting-scene/complexity-and-the-ten-thousand-hour-rule" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Malcolm Gladwell’s 10,000 hours of practice rule</a>, but&nbsp;<a href="https://literatureandlibation.com/2013/04/30/ten-thousand-hours-five-million-words/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">how many words would that actually be?</a></li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://evanovich.com/plum-series/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stephanie Plum series is now on book number 27</a>, and all Jen has to say is&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/275260-morelli-vs-ranger----the-never-ending-stephanie-plum-series-love-triang" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#TeamRanger forever</a>. Don’t @ her.</li><li>Here’s&nbsp;<a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/author/kresley-cole~32343.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kresley’s FictionDB page</a>&nbsp;for a complete list of her books in order.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/expeditions/on-the-importance-of-names-part-two-whats-the-difference-between-a-boat-and-a-ship/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ships vs. boats</a>, if getting those names is important to you, I guess.&nbsp;</li><li>The Amazing Race arc of IAD takes place over two books,&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/27/2-the-best-led-zeppelin-song-is-by-pink-floyd-no-rest-for-the-wicked" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">No Rest for the Wicked</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/3-something-we-said-wicked-deeds-on-a-winters-night" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wicked Deeds on a Winter’s Night</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3uOSR8q" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Again the Magic</a>&nbsp;was actually published in 2004, a year after Captain of All Pleasures.&nbsp;</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Age_of_Piracy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">golden age of pirates</a>&nbsp;was between 1650 and the 1730s, and of course&nbsp;<a href="https://www.neh.gov/humanities/2017/winter/feature/lot-what-known-about-pirates-not-true-and-lot-what-true-not-known" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">our actual knowledge of pirates and piracy is limited</a>. But most recently, of course, there are the&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piracy_off_the_coast_of_Somalia" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Somali pirates</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Tea_Race_of_1866#Route" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The race</a>&nbsp;in Captain of All Pleasures was probably based on&nbsp;<a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-great-tea-race-of-1866-8209465/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Great Tea Race of 1866.&nbsp;</a></li><li><a href="https://people.howstuffworks.com/culture-traditions/body-art/henna-tattoo.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The history of henna tattoos</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.debretts.com/expertise/essential-guide-to-the-peerage/ranks-and-privileges-of-the-peerage/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A marchioness is a higher rank than an earl</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DrJenGunter" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dr. Gunter</a>&nbsp;has some information for you&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/CMQ5dw9Astp/?igshid=q2tk7sx38g8x" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">about the hymen</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/7FBeQU9Cvyc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">That’s what she said.&nbsp;</a></li><li>Hattie ties Whit to a mast in&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3dfzUWu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brazen and the Beast</a>, in case you want more of that.&nbsp;</li><li>Next up,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/32pSR2R" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Whiteout by Adriana Anders.</a></li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/4/13/s0334-captain-of-all-pleasures-by-kresley-cole </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/4/13/s0334-captain-of-all-pleasures-by-kresley-cole]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:60758e77e322a25563130223</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2021 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/9f2e6993-1bee-4524-99ee-388908a5b7bf/fated-mates-captain-final-revc.mp3" length="91900351" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:30:43</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>40</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>40</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Rounding the corner on Season Three, and we’re missing Kresley Cole! This week, we read a book neither of us have read before — Kresley’s Captain of All Pleasures. A Victorian pirate book about a ship race. We talk about the magic of the debut romance, why pirates are often times icky, and why setting a book on a boat is risky business.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-9f2e6993-1bee-4524-99ee-388908a5b7bf.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S03.33: Age Gap Romance</title><itunes:title>Age Gap Romance</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Silver foxes, May/December, older heroines/younger heroes. Look, Sarah’s buttons were installed young, OK? We’re talking age gap romances, how they played out in the early days of the genre, how they remain popular today, and what has happened (or not!) in the books to make them viable in 2021. We try to keep this one taboo but not dark, sexy but not erotic…but by the end, we’re not making any real promises.  </p><p>Check all your Content Warnings before you begin with these books!</p><p>Whether you're new to Fated Mates this month or have been with us for all three seasons, we adore you, and we're so grateful to have you. We hope you’re reading the best books this week.</p><p>Next week, we’re reading Kresley Cole’s debut, <em>The Captain of All Pleasures</em>. Neither of us have read it, so we’re all jumping into the deep end without a mask on this one! Find it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3wxou8g" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/captain-of-all-pleasures-kresley-cole/1100333712" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-captain-of-all-pleasures" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-captain-of-all-pleasures/id381945475?ct=books_the_captain_of_all_pleasures&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_toolbox&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>. <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780743466493" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Or find it from your local indie via bookshop.org</a>.</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><ul><li>You can buy&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ajc.com/classifieds/real-estate/photos-inside-author-iris-johansen-cartersville-mansion/J8flKFXN8Azb2TzftEkuuK/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Iris Johansen’s mansion in Cartersville, GA</a>&nbsp;for a cool 8 million.&nbsp;</li><li>Maybe&nbsp;<a href="http://easydamus.com/chaoticevil.html?scrlybrkr=db6ea49c#:~:text=Chaotic%20evil%20is%20the%20most,freedom%2C%20randomness%2C%20and%20woe." rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chaotic Evil</a>&nbsp;isn’t the best writing plan.</li><li>Here’s&nbsp;<a href="https://getmaude.com/blogs/themaudern/the-psychology-of-may-december-romances" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">some pop psychology</a>&nbsp;about the May December romance. By the way, the phrase May-December romance apparently dates back to Chaucer.&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Merchant%27s_Tale?scrlybrkr=a74c9bcd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">In The Merchant’s Tale,</a>&nbsp;a young woman named May marries a much older man and a confusing idiom was born.&nbsp;</li><li>As it turns out the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.filmsourcing.com/hollywood-films-age-gap-creepiness-scale/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“half your age plus 7” rule</a>&nbsp;is not something Jen made up, because once you google it, you get&nbsp;<a href="https://www.dictionary.com/e/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/half-your-age-plus-7.jpeg?scrlybrkr=2a5123c9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">charts and graphs</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://newrepublic.com/article/119282/science-does-not-support-rule-seven-relationships" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">articles</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_disparity_in_sexual_relationships" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">everything</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Sarah’s reference to “Every terrifying post on that reddit board” is&nbsp;<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/relationships/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">r/relationships</a>, although&nbsp;<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">r/amitheasshole</a>&nbsp;is always available with some new tale of terrifying bad behavior.&nbsp;</li><li>This&nbsp;<a href="https://www.denofgeek.com/tv/bridgerton-the-real-history-of-sex-education-in-regency-england/?scrlybrkr=37e1909b" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">problems presented from lack of sex ed are pervasive though historical romance</a>, but&nbsp;<a href="https://www.publichealth.columbia.edu/public-health-now/news/abstinence-only-education-failure" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">how much better are we doing by our kids?&nbsp;</a></li><li>Jen was talking about&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/14yff0qC8vs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Marvin Gaye</a>&nbsp;when she mentioned "Everybody wants their own&nbsp;<a href="https://genius.com/Marvin-gaye-piece-of-clay-lyrics" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">piece of clay</a>" shit.</li><li><a href="https://www.dianapalmer.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Diana Palmer</a>&nbsp;has a long, storied romance career, and none of it involves that kind of DP. The first book in&nbsp;<a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/series/long-tall-texans-diana-palmer~5228.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Long Tall Texans series</a>, Calhoun, was published in 1988, and the latest one is #57 in the series,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/title/texas-proud~diana-palmer~2493885.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Texas Proud</a>, and was published in October of 2020.&nbsp;</li><li>All joking about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thepioneerwoman.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Pioneer Woman</a>&nbsp;aside, she does have some great recipes.&nbsp;</li><li>It turns out that&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2006/09/the-boiled-frog-myth-stop-the-lying-now/7446/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the “boiling frog” analogy</a>&nbsp;is just a myth, so keep on reading!&nbsp;</li><li>The movie&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carol_(film)?scrlybrkr=31826500" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Carol</a>&nbsp;is based on&nbsp;<a href="https://lithub.com/a-secret-literary-love-hidden-in-the-margins-of-the-price-of-salt/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Patricia Highsmith’s The Price of Salt.&nbsp;</a></li><li>The Jessa Kane book with the dirty version of the talk is called&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3wAqCvV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">His Prize Pupil</a>, in case you want to read it yourself.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=for%20science" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">For science</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Our next read-along episode will be&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/39Mj53v" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Captain of All Pleasures</a>&nbsp;by Kresley Cole. If you want more Kresley,&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/the-books" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">all of Season One</a>&nbsp;is for you.&nbsp;</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silver foxes, May/December, older heroines/younger heroes. Look, Sarah’s buttons were installed young, OK? We’re talking age gap romances, how they played out in the early days of the genre, how they remain popular today, and what has happened (or not!) in the books to make them viable in 2021. We try to keep this one taboo but not dark, sexy but not erotic…but by the end, we’re not making any real promises.  </p><p>Check all your Content Warnings before you begin with these books!</p><p>Whether you're new to Fated Mates this month or have been with us for all three seasons, we adore you, and we're so grateful to have you. We hope you’re reading the best books this week.</p><p>Next week, we’re reading Kresley Cole’s debut, <em>The Captain of All Pleasures</em>. Neither of us have read it, so we’re all jumping into the deep end without a mask on this one! Find it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3wxou8g" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/captain-of-all-pleasures-kresley-cole/1100333712" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-captain-of-all-pleasures" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-captain-of-all-pleasures/id381945475?ct=books_the_captain_of_all_pleasures&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_toolbox&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>. <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780743466493" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Or find it from your local indie via bookshop.org</a>.</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><ul><li>You can buy&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ajc.com/classifieds/real-estate/photos-inside-author-iris-johansen-cartersville-mansion/J8flKFXN8Azb2TzftEkuuK/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Iris Johansen’s mansion in Cartersville, GA</a>&nbsp;for a cool 8 million.&nbsp;</li><li>Maybe&nbsp;<a href="http://easydamus.com/chaoticevil.html?scrlybrkr=db6ea49c#:~:text=Chaotic%20evil%20is%20the%20most,freedom%2C%20randomness%2C%20and%20woe." rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chaotic Evil</a>&nbsp;isn’t the best writing plan.</li><li>Here’s&nbsp;<a href="https://getmaude.com/blogs/themaudern/the-psychology-of-may-december-romances" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">some pop psychology</a>&nbsp;about the May December romance. By the way, the phrase May-December romance apparently dates back to Chaucer.&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Merchant%27s_Tale?scrlybrkr=a74c9bcd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">In The Merchant’s Tale,</a>&nbsp;a young woman named May marries a much older man and a confusing idiom was born.&nbsp;</li><li>As it turns out the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.filmsourcing.com/hollywood-films-age-gap-creepiness-scale/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“half your age plus 7” rule</a>&nbsp;is not something Jen made up, because once you google it, you get&nbsp;<a href="https://www.dictionary.com/e/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/half-your-age-plus-7.jpeg?scrlybrkr=2a5123c9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">charts and graphs</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://newrepublic.com/article/119282/science-does-not-support-rule-seven-relationships" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">articles</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_disparity_in_sexual_relationships" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">everything</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Sarah’s reference to “Every terrifying post on that reddit board” is&nbsp;<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/relationships/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">r/relationships</a>, although&nbsp;<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">r/amitheasshole</a>&nbsp;is always available with some new tale of terrifying bad behavior.&nbsp;</li><li>This&nbsp;<a href="https://www.denofgeek.com/tv/bridgerton-the-real-history-of-sex-education-in-regency-england/?scrlybrkr=37e1909b" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">problems presented from lack of sex ed are pervasive though historical romance</a>, but&nbsp;<a href="https://www.publichealth.columbia.edu/public-health-now/news/abstinence-only-education-failure" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">how much better are we doing by our kids?&nbsp;</a></li><li>Jen was talking about&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/14yff0qC8vs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Marvin Gaye</a>&nbsp;when she mentioned "Everybody wants their own&nbsp;<a href="https://genius.com/Marvin-gaye-piece-of-clay-lyrics" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">piece of clay</a>" shit.</li><li><a href="https://www.dianapalmer.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Diana Palmer</a>&nbsp;has a long, storied romance career, and none of it involves that kind of DP. The first book in&nbsp;<a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/series/long-tall-texans-diana-palmer~5228.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Long Tall Texans series</a>, Calhoun, was published in 1988, and the latest one is #57 in the series,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/title/texas-proud~diana-palmer~2493885.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Texas Proud</a>, and was published in October of 2020.&nbsp;</li><li>All joking about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thepioneerwoman.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Pioneer Woman</a>&nbsp;aside, she does have some great recipes.&nbsp;</li><li>It turns out that&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2006/09/the-boiled-frog-myth-stop-the-lying-now/7446/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the “boiling frog” analogy</a>&nbsp;is just a myth, so keep on reading!&nbsp;</li><li>The movie&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carol_(film)?scrlybrkr=31826500" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Carol</a>&nbsp;is based on&nbsp;<a href="https://lithub.com/a-secret-literary-love-hidden-in-the-margins-of-the-price-of-salt/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Patricia Highsmith’s The Price of Salt.&nbsp;</a></li><li>The Jessa Kane book with the dirty version of the talk is called&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3wAqCvV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">His Prize Pupil</a>, in case you want to read it yourself.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=for%20science" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">For science</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Our next read-along episode will be&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/39Mj53v" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Captain of All Pleasures</a>&nbsp;by Kresley Cole. If you want more Kresley,&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/the-books" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">all of Season One</a>&nbsp;is for you.&nbsp;</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/4/5/s0333-age-gap-romance-interstitial]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:606bb6b55ab324301590c383</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2021 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/1e114789-3824-460d-b4e4-1f20ad7389b9/fated-mates-age-gap-romance-reva.mp3" length="78121983" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:16:46</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>39</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>39</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Silver foxes, May/December, older heroines/younger heroes, look, Sarah’s buttons were installed young, ok? We’re talking age gap romances, how they played out in the early days of the genre, how they remain popular today, and what has happen (or not!) in the books to make them viable romance in 2021. We try to keep this one taboo but not dark, sexy but not erotic…but by the end, we’re not making any real promises.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-1e114789-3824-460d-b4e4-1f20ad7389b9.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S03.32: You Had Me at Hola by Alexis Daria: A Textbook for Human Relationships</title><itunes:title>You Had Me at Hola by Alexis Daria: A Textbook for Human Relationships</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We named Alexis Daria’s <em>You Had Me At Hola</em> one of the best romances of 2020, and for good reason. This week, we’re talking about how great romances can be handbooks for great relationships, about why taking risks in romance writing can pay off big time, about what it’s like to be bilingual in America, about why intimacy coordinators are amazing, and about normalizing lube. Enjoy!</p><p>Next week, we’re back with an interstitial, and in two weeks, we’re reading…honestly, we don’t know. Stay tuned! Thank you, as always, for listening! Please follow us on your favorite podcasting app, and if you are up for leaving a rating or review there, we would be very grateful!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>If you need to manifest, Sarah's surprise crystal kit came from&nbsp;<a href="https://www.crystalrising.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Crystal Rising</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>We had&nbsp;<a href="https://www.oldtownbooks.com/?q=p.fated_mates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a Best of 2020 box available from Old Town Books in Alexandria</a>, and it looks like you can still order it. You can&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/11/23/s0316-best-romance-novels-of-2020" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">listen to the whole Best of 2020 episode here</a>.</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Applying to College Reddit</a>&nbsp;is probably not a real healthy place for high school seniors to hang out, so I guess if you must, you can be the person who just says reassuring nice things. But if nothing else,&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1376992888622567439?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">portal astrology</a>&nbsp;shows just how desperate people are to make meaning out of the tiniest of clues.</li><li><a href="https://telenovelastudies.wordpress.com/what-is-a-telenovela/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Telenovelas</a>&nbsp;vs.&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soap_opera" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">soap operas</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.huffpost.com/entry/is-perfect-bilingualism-attainable_b_5797778de4b0e002a3141246" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The bilingual spectrum--from receptive to equilingual</a>--and the ways that this is a particularly American issue. Jasmine in YHMAH is a dominant bilingual (so is Sarah).&nbsp;<a href="https://lithub.com/on-the-politics-of-italics/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The ways in which writers put languages on the page</a>&nbsp;has changed a lot in the past decade. Watch this video of author&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/24gCI3Ur7FM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Daniel Jose Older explaining why he doesn’t put Spanish in italics</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>In the movie Selena, there’s a scene where&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/Qh1fHnHX7wI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">her father worries about her Spanish skills as she is about to meet Mexican reporters</a>. Although this scene may not be accurate,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thewrap.com/selena-the-series-learn-spanish-phonetically-sing-tejano-songs/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Selena learned the phonetic Spanish for all her songs since she wasn’t fluent</a>. A more recent series about&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selena:_The_Series" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Selena’s life is on Netflix</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/tv/story/2020-12-02/netflix-selena-the-series-review" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">check for reviews because neither of us have watched it</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Being an&nbsp;<a href="tv/a33232977/what-is-an-intimacy-coordinator-sex-scenes-i-may-destroy-you-normal-people-ita-obrien-interview/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Intimacy coordinator</a>&nbsp;is a real job!</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/PZL13w9TqbA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Breaking the 4th Wall</a>&nbsp;is a phrase from TV when the actors directly address the audience. In&nbsp;<em>You Had me at Hola</em>, we see Jasmine or Ashton fall out of character and become themselves during the filming of a scene.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/8osRaFTtgHo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Penn &amp; Teller cup and ball trick</a>, which we also talked about in&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/5/12/s0236-bet-me-by-jennifer-crusie" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Bet Me Episode</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://slate.com/culture/2016/04/little-red-corvette-by-prince-the-greatest-song-ever-about-one-night-stands.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Little Red Corvette</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/CqH7LlWwIww" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sugar Walls</a>&nbsp;are songs about sex,&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/6swmTBVI83k" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">so don't worry about the pop music your kids are listening to these days</a>. It's all gonna be fine.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/3/30/s0332-you-had-me-at-hola-by-alexis-daria </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We named Alexis Daria’s <em>You Had Me At Hola</em> one of the best romances of 2020, and for good reason. This week, we’re talking about how great romances can be handbooks for great relationships, about why taking risks in romance writing can pay off big time, about what it’s like to be bilingual in America, about why intimacy coordinators are amazing, and about normalizing lube. Enjoy!</p><p>Next week, we’re back with an interstitial, and in two weeks, we’re reading…honestly, we don’t know. Stay tuned! Thank you, as always, for listening! Please follow us on your favorite podcasting app, and if you are up for leaving a rating or review there, we would be very grateful!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>If you need to manifest, Sarah's surprise crystal kit came from&nbsp;<a href="https://www.crystalrising.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Crystal Rising</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>We had&nbsp;<a href="https://www.oldtownbooks.com/?q=p.fated_mates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a Best of 2020 box available from Old Town Books in Alexandria</a>, and it looks like you can still order it. You can&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/11/23/s0316-best-romance-novels-of-2020" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">listen to the whole Best of 2020 episode here</a>.</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Applying to College Reddit</a>&nbsp;is probably not a real healthy place for high school seniors to hang out, so I guess if you must, you can be the person who just says reassuring nice things. But if nothing else,&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1376992888622567439?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">portal astrology</a>&nbsp;shows just how desperate people are to make meaning out of the tiniest of clues.</li><li><a href="https://telenovelastudies.wordpress.com/what-is-a-telenovela/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Telenovelas</a>&nbsp;vs.&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soap_opera" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">soap operas</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.huffpost.com/entry/is-perfect-bilingualism-attainable_b_5797778de4b0e002a3141246" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The bilingual spectrum--from receptive to equilingual</a>--and the ways that this is a particularly American issue. Jasmine in YHMAH is a dominant bilingual (so is Sarah).&nbsp;<a href="https://lithub.com/on-the-politics-of-italics/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The ways in which writers put languages on the page</a>&nbsp;has changed a lot in the past decade. Watch this video of author&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/24gCI3Ur7FM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Daniel Jose Older explaining why he doesn’t put Spanish in italics</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>In the movie Selena, there’s a scene where&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/Qh1fHnHX7wI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">her father worries about her Spanish skills as she is about to meet Mexican reporters</a>. Although this scene may not be accurate,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thewrap.com/selena-the-series-learn-spanish-phonetically-sing-tejano-songs/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Selena learned the phonetic Spanish for all her songs since she wasn’t fluent</a>. A more recent series about&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selena:_The_Series" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Selena’s life is on Netflix</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/tv/story/2020-12-02/netflix-selena-the-series-review" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">check for reviews because neither of us have watched it</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Being an&nbsp;<a href="tv/a33232977/what-is-an-intimacy-coordinator-sex-scenes-i-may-destroy-you-normal-people-ita-obrien-interview/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Intimacy coordinator</a>&nbsp;is a real job!</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/PZL13w9TqbA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Breaking the 4th Wall</a>&nbsp;is a phrase from TV when the actors directly address the audience. In&nbsp;<em>You Had me at Hola</em>, we see Jasmine or Ashton fall out of character and become themselves during the filming of a scene.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/8osRaFTtgHo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Penn &amp; Teller cup and ball trick</a>, which we also talked about in&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/5/12/s0236-bet-me-by-jennifer-crusie" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Bet Me Episode</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://slate.com/culture/2016/04/little-red-corvette-by-prince-the-greatest-song-ever-about-one-night-stands.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Little Red Corvette</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/CqH7LlWwIww" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sugar Walls</a>&nbsp;are songs about sex,&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/6swmTBVI83k" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">so don't worry about the pop music your kids are listening to these days</a>. It's all gonna be fine.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/3/30/s0332-you-had-me-at-hola-by-alexis-daria </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/3/30/s0332-you-had-me-at-hola-by-alexis-daria]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:60636c531762660b8427ad88</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2021 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/43552e94-fa4f-4d35-b900-2848a91c2d9e/fated-mates-alexis-daria-final.mp3" length="74056004" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:13:32</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>38</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>38</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We named Alexis Daria’s You Had Me At Hola one of the best romances of 2020, and for good reason. This week, we’re talking about how great romances can be handbooks for great relationships, about why taking risks in romance writing can pay off big time, about what it’s like to be bilingual in America, about why intimacy coordinators are amazing, and about normalizing lube. Enjoy!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-43552e94-fa4f-4d35-b900-2848a91c2d9e.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S03.31: Morality Chain Romance</title><itunes:title>Morality Chain Romance</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We’re so thrilled to be talking morality chain romance! We’ve owed this episode to Katee Robert for nearly a year, and we have no excuses for how long this has taken, except that time in 2020 was a flat circle. Here, we get down to business—we tackle the definition of Morality Chain, and how it differs from Dark Romance, how it connects with mafia, criminals, pirates, highwaymen, and the original Alpha. </p><p>Check all your Content Warnings before you begin with these books!</p><p>Whether you're new to Fated Mates this month or have been with us for all three seasons, we adore you, and we're so grateful to have you. We hope you’re reading the best books this week.</p><p>Next week, we’re reading Alexis Daria’s You Had Me At Hola, one of our Best Books of 2020! Find it at <a href="https://amzn.to/39rwpdB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/you-had-me-at-hola-alexis-daria/1133982946?ean=9780062959935" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/you-had-me-at-hola-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/you-had-me-at-hola/id1482614303?ct=books_you_had_me_at_hola&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_toolbox&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>One very important note: we highly recommend doing a thorough search for content warnings for all the books and movies we mention this week.&nbsp;</li><li>We love&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kateerobert.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Katee Robert</a>, who we had on as a guest for the&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/11/16/s0315-menage-romance-interstitial-with-katee-robert" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">menage interstitial</a>. Katee bid on this item at&nbsp;<a href="https://kennedyryanwrites.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kennedy Ryan</a>’s Lift 4 Autism auction. It happens every spring, so&nbsp;<a href="http://lift4autism.com/tag/kennedy-ryan/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">keep an eye on this page for the 2021 auction</a>&nbsp;if you’d like to pick the topic for a future interstitial.&nbsp;</li><li>This week, Katee released&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3cf2zuD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Seducing My Guardian</em></a>, the 4th book in her SUPER HOT Touch of Taboo series. If you'd like to read a morality chain romance written by Katee, we recommend&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2QCeUAJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Bastard's Bargain</em></a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/50259/song-it-was-a-lover-and-his-lass" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“In springtime, the only pretty ring time”</a>&nbsp;is from Shakespeare’s&nbsp;<em>As You Like It</em>. It's also possible Sarah knows it from&nbsp;<em>Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory</em>. She would like you to believe that it's from the former, but we'll leave you to draw your own conclusions. Either way,&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/4m1EFMoRFvY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“If you liked it then you shoulda put a ring on it,”</a>&nbsp;is from Beyonce.&nbsp;</li><li>As it turns out,&nbsp;<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AvG3weBETcwAe-KPmOjFThgc3gPpIWft/view?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chicago is a great town for beach volleyball.</a></li><li>It’s hard not to talk about morality chain &amp; dark romance together, but we think they are inverse tropes. The internet definition of&nbsp;<a href="https://allthetropes.fandom.com/wiki/Morality_Chain" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Morality Chain</a>&nbsp;is “is a character who is the reason another character is Good.” Jen and Sarah’s current definition is that in morality chain romance, the Love Interest pulls a hero towards humanity and goodness, while in dark romance, the love interest is pulled down into the hero’s lawless world.</li><li>Some examples in pop culture are&nbsp;<a href="https://buffy.fandom.com/wiki/Spike" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spike from&nbsp;<em>Buffy</em></a>&nbsp;and maybe&nbsp;<a href="https://how-i-met-your-mother.fandom.com/wiki/Barney_Stinson" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barney in&nbsp;<em>How I Met Your Mother</em></a>r. Also, check out a movie called&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A9on:_The_Professional" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Professional</em></a>, where a child (played by Natalie Portman!) befriends the assassin next door. The Jason Statham one with a kid is called&nbsp;<em>Safe</em>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero%27s_journey" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Hero’s Journey</a>&nbsp;is very common character archetype in literature and&nbsp;<a href="https://venngage.com/blog/heros-journey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">pop culture</a>, but Sarah and Jen are both very taken with Gail Carriger’s description of the alternative archetype,&nbsp;<em>The Heroine’s Journey</em>.&nbsp;</li><li>If you want more about morality chain, so many of Kresley’s books from The Immortals After Dark series will work,&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/the-books" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">so please listen to season one!</a>&nbsp;Our favorites are&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/4-something-we-said-dark-needs-at-nights-edge" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Dark Needs at Night’s Edge</em></a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/4/8/11-lothaire" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Lothaire</em></a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/27/16-sweet-ruin" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Sweet Ruin</em></a>.&nbsp;</li><li>We were divided on whether the character has to be a danger to others in order to qualitfy as morality chain. In the Gamemaker series:&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/4/22/13-the-professional" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Professional</em></a>&nbsp;is about an assassin who is a danger to others, while in&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/27/17-the-player" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Player</em></a>&nbsp;he’s only a danger to himself.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/JenniferRNN/status/962804770116321280?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen Porter wrote a long thread about what she thinks of as PEA</a>, or problematic ever after, romance.</li><li>Mickey is "kind of a&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fagin" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fagin</a>-y" as a character, but without the antisemitism. In interesting historical facts, Dickens rewrote&nbsp;<em>Oliver Twist</em>&nbsp;later in life to remove all anti-Semitic characteristics from Fagin, after he'd been criticized for the portrayal of the character. Of course, it's not that simple.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/41307849" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Read more about it from Deborah Epstein Nord</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/1/20/s0220-managed-by-kristen-callihan" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scottie is the main character of&nbsp;<em>Managed</em></a>, and is classified more as&nbsp;<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/RomanceBooks/comments/jfbxp0/grumpysunshine/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">grumpy one/sunshine one</a>, which we argue is just morality chain dialed down.&nbsp;</li><li>More about how most writers have a&nbsp;<a href="https://storygrid.com/discover-storys-core/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“core story."</a></li><li>Next week, we'll be reading&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2PmCeBw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>You Had me at Hola</em></a>&nbsp;by Alexis Daria</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/3/23/s0331-morality-chain-romance-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We’re so thrilled to be talking morality chain romance! We’ve owed this episode to Katee Robert for nearly a year, and we have no excuses for how long this has taken, except that time in 2020 was a flat circle. Here, we get down to business—we tackle the definition of Morality Chain, and how it differs from Dark Romance, how it connects with mafia, criminals, pirates, highwaymen, and the original Alpha. </p><p>Check all your Content Warnings before you begin with these books!</p><p>Whether you're new to Fated Mates this month or have been with us for all three seasons, we adore you, and we're so grateful to have you. We hope you’re reading the best books this week.</p><p>Next week, we’re reading Alexis Daria’s You Had Me At Hola, one of our Best Books of 2020! Find it at <a href="https://amzn.to/39rwpdB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/you-had-me-at-hola-alexis-daria/1133982946?ean=9780062959935" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/you-had-me-at-hola-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/you-had-me-at-hola/id1482614303?ct=books_you_had_me_at_hola&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_toolbox&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>One very important note: we highly recommend doing a thorough search for content warnings for all the books and movies we mention this week.&nbsp;</li><li>We love&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kateerobert.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Katee Robert</a>, who we had on as a guest for the&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/11/16/s0315-menage-romance-interstitial-with-katee-robert" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">menage interstitial</a>. Katee bid on this item at&nbsp;<a href="https://kennedyryanwrites.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kennedy Ryan</a>’s Lift 4 Autism auction. It happens every spring, so&nbsp;<a href="http://lift4autism.com/tag/kennedy-ryan/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">keep an eye on this page for the 2021 auction</a>&nbsp;if you’d like to pick the topic for a future interstitial.&nbsp;</li><li>This week, Katee released&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3cf2zuD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Seducing My Guardian</em></a>, the 4th book in her SUPER HOT Touch of Taboo series. If you'd like to read a morality chain romance written by Katee, we recommend&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2QCeUAJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Bastard's Bargain</em></a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/50259/song-it-was-a-lover-and-his-lass" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“In springtime, the only pretty ring time”</a>&nbsp;is from Shakespeare’s&nbsp;<em>As You Like It</em>. It's also possible Sarah knows it from&nbsp;<em>Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory</em>. She would like you to believe that it's from the former, but we'll leave you to draw your own conclusions. Either way,&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/4m1EFMoRFvY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“If you liked it then you shoulda put a ring on it,”</a>&nbsp;is from Beyonce.&nbsp;</li><li>As it turns out,&nbsp;<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AvG3weBETcwAe-KPmOjFThgc3gPpIWft/view?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chicago is a great town for beach volleyball.</a></li><li>It’s hard not to talk about morality chain &amp; dark romance together, but we think they are inverse tropes. The internet definition of&nbsp;<a href="https://allthetropes.fandom.com/wiki/Morality_Chain" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Morality Chain</a>&nbsp;is “is a character who is the reason another character is Good.” Jen and Sarah’s current definition is that in morality chain romance, the Love Interest pulls a hero towards humanity and goodness, while in dark romance, the love interest is pulled down into the hero’s lawless world.</li><li>Some examples in pop culture are&nbsp;<a href="https://buffy.fandom.com/wiki/Spike" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spike from&nbsp;<em>Buffy</em></a>&nbsp;and maybe&nbsp;<a href="https://how-i-met-your-mother.fandom.com/wiki/Barney_Stinson" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barney in&nbsp;<em>How I Met Your Mother</em></a>r. Also, check out a movie called&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A9on:_The_Professional" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Professional</em></a>, where a child (played by Natalie Portman!) befriends the assassin next door. The Jason Statham one with a kid is called&nbsp;<em>Safe</em>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero%27s_journey" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Hero’s Journey</a>&nbsp;is very common character archetype in literature and&nbsp;<a href="https://venngage.com/blog/heros-journey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">pop culture</a>, but Sarah and Jen are both very taken with Gail Carriger’s description of the alternative archetype,&nbsp;<em>The Heroine’s Journey</em>.&nbsp;</li><li>If you want more about morality chain, so many of Kresley’s books from The Immortals After Dark series will work,&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/the-books" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">so please listen to season one!</a>&nbsp;Our favorites are&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/4-something-we-said-dark-needs-at-nights-edge" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Dark Needs at Night’s Edge</em></a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/4/8/11-lothaire" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Lothaire</em></a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/27/16-sweet-ruin" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Sweet Ruin</em></a>.&nbsp;</li><li>We were divided on whether the character has to be a danger to others in order to qualitfy as morality chain. In the Gamemaker series:&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/4/22/13-the-professional" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Professional</em></a>&nbsp;is about an assassin who is a danger to others, while in&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/27/17-the-player" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Player</em></a>&nbsp;he’s only a danger to himself.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/JenniferRNN/status/962804770116321280?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen Porter wrote a long thread about what she thinks of as PEA</a>, or problematic ever after, romance.</li><li>Mickey is "kind of a&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fagin" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fagin</a>-y" as a character, but without the antisemitism. In interesting historical facts, Dickens rewrote&nbsp;<em>Oliver Twist</em>&nbsp;later in life to remove all anti-Semitic characteristics from Fagin, after he'd been criticized for the portrayal of the character. Of course, it's not that simple.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/41307849" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Read more about it from Deborah Epstein Nord</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/1/20/s0220-managed-by-kristen-callihan" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scottie is the main character of&nbsp;<em>Managed</em></a>, and is classified more as&nbsp;<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/RomanceBooks/comments/jfbxp0/grumpysunshine/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">grumpy one/sunshine one</a>, which we argue is just morality chain dialed down.&nbsp;</li><li>More about how most writers have a&nbsp;<a href="https://storygrid.com/discover-storys-core/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“core story."</a></li><li>Next week, we'll be reading&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2PmCeBw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>You Had me at Hola</em></a>&nbsp;by Alexis Daria</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/3/23/s0331-morality-chain-romance-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/3/23/s0331-morality-chain-romance-interstitial]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:605a3db4ea8eaa54b1f64161</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2021 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/d821a322-3d5d-4fb7-9a91-d7692d27b7fb/morality-chain-final-reva.mp3" length="81857438" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:18:18</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>37</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>37</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We’re so thrilled to be talking morality chain romance! We’ve owed this episode to Katee Robert for nearly a year, and we have no excuses for how long this has taken, except that time in 2020 was a flat circle. Here, we get down to business—we tackle the definition of Morality Chain, and how it differs from Dark Romance, how it connects with mafia, criminals, pirates, highwaymen, and the original Alpha. 

Check all your Content Warnings before you begin with these books!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-d821a322-3d5d-4fb7-9a91-d7692d27b7fb.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S03.30: A Matter of Class by Mary Balogh: It&apos;s Grown Up!</title><itunes:title>A Matter of Class by Mary Balogh: It&apos;s Grown Up!</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We’re headed back to 2007 this week, to talk about Mary Balogh’s <em>A Matter of Class</em>, which Sarah’s editor gave her as assigned reading when she was writing <em>A Rogue By Any Other Name</em>. We’re leaving plot and character aside here and really digging into structure, so expect conversations about timelines, about language and yes…about tense. Because, Jen.  </p><p>Whether you're new to Fated Mates this month or have been with us for all three seasons, we adore you, and we're so grateful to have you.&nbsp;We hope you’re reading the best books this week.</p><p>Next week, it’s a morality chain romance interstitial! After that comes our next read along, which is still in discussion—stay tuned! </p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>For what it’s worth, this is our 119th episode, so time to clarify the pronunciation of MacLean.&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/pEOVNmSR7_c" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Say it like the last name of famous movie badass, John McClane from&nbsp;<em>Die Hard</em></a>. Jen is now very mad at herself and thinking of renaming herself Jennifer Diesel in honor of&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominic_Toretto" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vin Diesel and the Fast &amp; Furious movie franchise</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>If you liked&nbsp;<em>A Matter of Class</em>, check out Balogh’s&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3lpGzQk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bedwyn</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3cFtUVB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Westcott series</a>. PS, Jen thinks she deserves a lot of credit for not cracking up at “A quiet, stiff hero.”</li><li>Sarah’s editor at Avon is Carrie Feron.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://talltalestogo.wordpress.com/2017/05/24/my-top-tips-for-writing-a-time-slip-novel-by-kim-fleet/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Time slip</a>&nbsp;is a narrative structure where stories are not told in chronological order.&nbsp;<a href="http://www.exactlywhatistime.com/other-aspects-of-time/time-in-literature/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Here is an entire website about time</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Although Jen couldn’t find the article for “I write what I can’t draw, I draw what I can’t write,” a few people on the internet also give credit to&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/v9onZpQix_w" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Marjane Satrapi</a>, author of the amazing graphic novel&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2Ox0Ac3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Persepolis.</a></li><li>Sarah’s friend&nbsp;<a href="http://www.carrieryan.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Carrie Ryan writes YA</a>, and she’s the one who talked about the difficulties of secrets in first person narration.&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2Q3RQdA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Butterfly in Frost</em>&nbsp;by Sylvia Day</a>&nbsp;is a book in first person that didn’t work for Jen. It seemed like the narrator was&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nami.org/About-Mental-Illness/Mental-Health-Conditions/Dissociative-Disorders" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">dissociating</a>, which is different than keeping a secret. Although she never mentioned&nbsp;<em>Butterfly in Frost</em>&nbsp;in the piece, the book inspired Jen to&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/news-and-features/articles/can-romance-fiction-have-unreliable-narrators/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">write about the problems with unreliable narrators in romance for Kirkus.</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Crown_(TV_series)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Crown</em>&nbsp;is a Netflix series</a>&nbsp;that is well-regarded, but the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.elle.com/culture/movies-tv/a34823816/the-crown-season-4-controversy/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">difficulties of portraying the modern years of the monarchy</a>&nbsp;has been well-documented. Read this in case you want to know about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/news/a9255/princess-margaret-lord-snowdon-relationship/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Princess Margaret's love life</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cbs.com/shows/oprah-with-meghan-and-harry-a-cbs-primetime-special/video/i6UW_WTQjLrEeOoObMmlwrFLTTypvuZm/cbs-presents-oprah-with-meghan-and-harry-a-primetime-special/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">In Oprah’s interview with Meghan Markle and Prince Harry</a>, Meghan talked about the difference between Hollywood and the monarchy. They also routinely referred to&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vox.com/the-goods/22320355/meghan-markle-oprah-prince-harry-archie-cbs-royal-british-monarchy-queen-firm-institution-explainer" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“the Institution” and “The Firm”</a>&nbsp;to distinguish the monarchy from individuals.&nbsp;</li><li>A few weeks ago,<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/2/24/s0327-retellings-in-romance-novels-with-kate-clayborn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">&nbsp;Kate Clayborn joined us to talk about retellings</a>.&nbsp;<em>A Matter of Class</em>&nbsp;gave Jen some&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star-crossed#:~:text=%22Star%2Dcrossed%22%20or%20%22,are%20working%20against%20the%20relationship." rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Romeo &amp; Juliet feelings</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Sarah's dual timeline books are&nbsp;<em>The Day of the Duchess</em>&nbsp;and "The Duke of Christmas Present," which is in the&nbsp;<em>How the Dukes Stole Christmas</em>&nbsp;anthology. Sherry Thomas's&nbsp;<em>Private Arrangements</em>&nbsp;is a fabulous example of it, as well.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/3/15/s0330-a-matter-of-class-by-mary-balogh </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We’re headed back to 2007 this week, to talk about Mary Balogh’s <em>A Matter of Class</em>, which Sarah’s editor gave her as assigned reading when she was writing <em>A Rogue By Any Other Name</em>. We’re leaving plot and character aside here and really digging into structure, so expect conversations about timelines, about language and yes…about tense. Because, Jen.  </p><p>Whether you're new to Fated Mates this month or have been with us for all three seasons, we adore you, and we're so grateful to have you.&nbsp;We hope you’re reading the best books this week.</p><p>Next week, it’s a morality chain romance interstitial! After that comes our next read along, which is still in discussion—stay tuned! </p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>For what it’s worth, this is our 119th episode, so time to clarify the pronunciation of MacLean.&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/pEOVNmSR7_c" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Say it like the last name of famous movie badass, John McClane from&nbsp;<em>Die Hard</em></a>. Jen is now very mad at herself and thinking of renaming herself Jennifer Diesel in honor of&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominic_Toretto" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vin Diesel and the Fast &amp; Furious movie franchise</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>If you liked&nbsp;<em>A Matter of Class</em>, check out Balogh’s&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3lpGzQk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bedwyn</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3cFtUVB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Westcott series</a>. PS, Jen thinks she deserves a lot of credit for not cracking up at “A quiet, stiff hero.”</li><li>Sarah’s editor at Avon is Carrie Feron.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://talltalestogo.wordpress.com/2017/05/24/my-top-tips-for-writing-a-time-slip-novel-by-kim-fleet/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Time slip</a>&nbsp;is a narrative structure where stories are not told in chronological order.&nbsp;<a href="http://www.exactlywhatistime.com/other-aspects-of-time/time-in-literature/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Here is an entire website about time</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Although Jen couldn’t find the article for “I write what I can’t draw, I draw what I can’t write,” a few people on the internet also give credit to&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/v9onZpQix_w" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Marjane Satrapi</a>, author of the amazing graphic novel&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2Ox0Ac3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Persepolis.</a></li><li>Sarah’s friend&nbsp;<a href="http://www.carrieryan.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Carrie Ryan writes YA</a>, and she’s the one who talked about the difficulties of secrets in first person narration.&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2Q3RQdA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Butterfly in Frost</em>&nbsp;by Sylvia Day</a>&nbsp;is a book in first person that didn’t work for Jen. It seemed like the narrator was&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nami.org/About-Mental-Illness/Mental-Health-Conditions/Dissociative-Disorders" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">dissociating</a>, which is different than keeping a secret. Although she never mentioned&nbsp;<em>Butterfly in Frost</em>&nbsp;in the piece, the book inspired Jen to&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/news-and-features/articles/can-romance-fiction-have-unreliable-narrators/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">write about the problems with unreliable narrators in romance for Kirkus.</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Crown_(TV_series)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Crown</em>&nbsp;is a Netflix series</a>&nbsp;that is well-regarded, but the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.elle.com/culture/movies-tv/a34823816/the-crown-season-4-controversy/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">difficulties of portraying the modern years of the monarchy</a>&nbsp;has been well-documented. Read this in case you want to know about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/news/a9255/princess-margaret-lord-snowdon-relationship/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Princess Margaret's love life</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cbs.com/shows/oprah-with-meghan-and-harry-a-cbs-primetime-special/video/i6UW_WTQjLrEeOoObMmlwrFLTTypvuZm/cbs-presents-oprah-with-meghan-and-harry-a-primetime-special/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">In Oprah’s interview with Meghan Markle and Prince Harry</a>, Meghan talked about the difference between Hollywood and the monarchy. They also routinely referred to&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vox.com/the-goods/22320355/meghan-markle-oprah-prince-harry-archie-cbs-royal-british-monarchy-queen-firm-institution-explainer" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“the Institution” and “The Firm”</a>&nbsp;to distinguish the monarchy from individuals.&nbsp;</li><li>A few weeks ago,<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/2/24/s0327-retellings-in-romance-novels-with-kate-clayborn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">&nbsp;Kate Clayborn joined us to talk about retellings</a>.&nbsp;<em>A Matter of Class</em>&nbsp;gave Jen some&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star-crossed#:~:text=%22Star%2Dcrossed%22%20or%20%22,are%20working%20against%20the%20relationship." rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Romeo &amp; Juliet feelings</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Sarah's dual timeline books are&nbsp;<em>The Day of the Duchess</em>&nbsp;and "The Duke of Christmas Present," which is in the&nbsp;<em>How the Dukes Stole Christmas</em>&nbsp;anthology. Sherry Thomas's&nbsp;<em>Private Arrangements</em>&nbsp;is a fabulous example of it, as well.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/3/15/s0330-a-matter-of-class-by-mary-balogh </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/3/15/s0330-a-matter-of-class-by-mary-balogh]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:60500dd1fd4a2459316260c6</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2021 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/22934edc-72a0-4fbd-92a9-c1cfc576de80/fated-mates-marybalogh-final-reva.mp3" length="62924834" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:01:22</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>36</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>36</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We’re headed back to 2007 this week, to talk about Mary Balogh’s A Matter of Class, which Sarah’s editor gave her as assigned reading when she was writing A Rogue By Any Other Name. We’re leaving plot and character aside here and really digging into structure, so expect conversations about timelines, about language and yes…about tense. Because, Jen.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-22934edc-72a0-4fbd-92a9-c1cfc576de80.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S03.29: Your Romance Questions Answered</title><itunes:title>Your Romance Questions Answered</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Sarah is *still* on deadline (WE KNOW), but we’re answering your questions about romance novels, publishing, writing and more. In this episode, we’re talking about stand-alone romance series, heroes who do bad stuff, Jane Austen, cover reveals and more. </p><p>Whether you're new to Fated Mates this month or have been with us for all three seasons, we adore you, and we're so grateful to have you.&nbsp;We hope you’re reading the best books this week.</p><p>Next week, it’s Mary Balogh’s <em>A Matter Of Class</em> — this is the truth. Get it for only $2.99 at&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3arz7QV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-matter-of-class-perseus/1125867460?ean=9780786752218" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/a-matter-of-class/id1241871278?ct=books_a_matter_of_class&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_toolbox&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/a-matter-of-class-3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>&nbsp;or&nbsp;<a href="https://books.google.com/books/about/A_Matter_of_Class.html?id=Q3ZKxoNWV7IC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Google Books</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><p>Sarah and Eric,&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/2/2/bonus-dreaming-of-you-by-lisa-kleypas-2019" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sara and Derek</a>!&nbsp;</p><p>Jen recommends&nbsp;<a href="https://www.letsmakeart.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Let’s Make Art</a>&nbsp;if you’re looking for something fun to power you through until we’re all vaccinated. Check out&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/product-page/romancelandia-sticker-club" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kelly’s Romance Sticker of the Month Club</a>.</p><p>Next week, we’ll be reading&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3rBZiuC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Matter of Class</a>&nbsp;by Mary Balogh. WE PROMISE.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Why aren't there more Fantasy Romances?</strong>&nbsp;Later this spring, we’re having an episode with&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/zlikeinzorro" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Zoraida Cordova</a>&nbsp;about fantasy romance. Until then, maybe you’ll be interested&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/30sOVx7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Court of Silver Flames</a>, the newest release from Sarah J. Mass.</p><p><strong>When did Series becomes so Popular?</strong>&nbsp;We talked about this in our episode about&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/12/21/s0320-romance-families-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">romance families</a>, so you might want to check that out for a longer discussion of this topic.&nbsp;</p><p>Perhaps you are like Jen and want to know more about how to&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thebigquestions.com/2020/08/13/how-to-kill-off-amazons-damned-popular-highlights/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">turn off the “popular highlights”</a>series on your Kindle.&nbsp;</p><p>Oh the 80s and 90s:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/bookseries/B00CKCW0LI/ref=dp_st_0553219782" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lovesepts series with the Delaneys</a>, or&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/series/67366-mackenzie-blackthorn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Elizabeth Lowell’s series with heroes named after states</a>.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>What's the State of Publishing? What are the different Trim Sizes?</strong>&nbsp;One of the reasons mass market paperbacks (MMPB) are harder to get is because of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/bookselling/article/73668-is-mass-market-dying-or-just-evolving-again.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a merger between printers</a>, which explains the transition to&nbsp;<a href="https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/publisher-news/article/83217-harlequin-introduces-larger-mass-market-paperback.html#:~:text=Beginning%20in%20March%2C%20Harlequin%20quietly,will%20be%20priced%20at%20%249.99." rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mass Market Max</a>.</p><p>All about&nbsp;<a href="https://bobonbooks.com/2019/11/06/what-happens-to-unsold-books/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">stripped or remaindered books</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://wordcatcher.com/what-do-publishers-do-with-unsold-books/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">what happens when a bookstore returns a book to the publisher</a>.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>How Can You Afford Your Romance Habit?</strong>&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3t8Jn75" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kindle Unlimited</a>, obviously.&nbsp;</p><p>You should absolutely get the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.overdrive.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Libby app (managed by Overdrive)</a>&nbsp;and use it to check books out of your local library. If your library system has&nbsp;<a href="https://www.hoopladigital.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hoopla</a>, you should check it out.&nbsp;<a href="https://bookriot.com/comparing-public-library-ebook-platforms/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Here’s a quick primer on the differences between these apps</a>.</p><p>It’s essential to subscribe to the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bookbub.com/ebook-deals/latest" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">BookBub daily email</a>, you can choose from a number of categories. Also,&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/The_Book_Queen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">you should follow The Book Queen on Twitter</a>, who posts a daily thread of what's on sale.&nbsp;</p><p>Finally, you should use&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ereaderiq.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">eReaderIQ</a>&nbsp;to track authors and specific books, and they will email you when the prices drop.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Who do we want to write our Life Story?</strong>&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3qvdEeU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kleypas</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/38nKKqA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kresley</a>.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>What are the Best Romance Craft Books?</strong>&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/M_GTv416-3Y" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">OH-IO</a>&nbsp;is what all the Ohioans say. And there’s nothing more midwestern than&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/4E4AQkvl1KU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“ope.”</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/_Yhyp-_hX2s" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">It's "Ope There Goes Gravity"</a>&nbsp;and we&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/TylerJRoney/status/1030261311530262530?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">will not be taking questions at this time</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>Sarah recommends the following craft books:&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3va8l89" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Romancing the Beat</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3kYPuZ5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Save the Cat</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3vkFZIu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Heroine’s Journey</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero%27s_journey" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">(And here’s the Hero’s Journey).</a></p><p><strong>Can a Hero by a Known Kidnapper?</strong>&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3v5gESN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ask St. Vincent</a>, although he doesn’t kidnap the heroine. It depends on the reason for the kidnapping--for example, his childhood home is part of her dowry, meaning&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3t5SoOp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Rogue by Any Other Name</a>&nbsp;or try&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3cgDONk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dark Mafia Prince</a>. But these stories are less common in contemporaries, unless it’s “dark romance.”</p><p><strong>Why aren't there more Vibrators?</strong>&nbsp;It's such a good question, and we are slowly seeing more of them. Check out&nbsp;<a href="https://eliawinters.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Elia Winters' blog where she reviews sex toys</a>. Other books to check out:&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2N0R2oG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">It Happened One Summer</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/30r2Rrx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Happy Endings</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3vacyIZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">You Had Me at Hola</a>.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Why Are there so Many Dukes?</strong>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.npr.org/2013/07/11/201184280/put-up-your-dukes-romances-favorite-rank" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Because people buy them.</a></p><p><strong>Why don't we have better names for different types of Illustrated Covers?</strong>&nbsp;Because we're readers and don't know enough art words? The word cartoon has a childish connotation, and so we think that's why we started using illustrated. Sometimes we hear the phrase&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1278510835321786368?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"photo-realistic" to describe the previous illustrated style</a>.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Did Jane Austen write Contemporaries?</strong>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1358442913408155649?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Yes.</a></p><p>Historical romance are set in the past, and an example of one set in the recent past is&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3t66Wh6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Loud is How I Love You</a>&nbsp;by Mercy Brown.</p><p><strong>Why are Cover Reveals Important?</strong>&nbsp;Publicity, and if you want to see a great new cover, check out the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/CMAUBNCA8Eq/" rel="noopener...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah is *still* on deadline (WE KNOW), but we’re answering your questions about romance novels, publishing, writing and more. In this episode, we’re talking about stand-alone romance series, heroes who do bad stuff, Jane Austen, cover reveals and more. </p><p>Whether you're new to Fated Mates this month or have been with us for all three seasons, we adore you, and we're so grateful to have you.&nbsp;We hope you’re reading the best books this week.</p><p>Next week, it’s Mary Balogh’s <em>A Matter Of Class</em> — this is the truth. Get it for only $2.99 at&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3arz7QV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-matter-of-class-perseus/1125867460?ean=9780786752218" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/a-matter-of-class/id1241871278?ct=books_a_matter_of_class&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_toolbox&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/a-matter-of-class-3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>&nbsp;or&nbsp;<a href="https://books.google.com/books/about/A_Matter_of_Class.html?id=Q3ZKxoNWV7IC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Google Books</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><p>Sarah and Eric,&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/2/2/bonus-dreaming-of-you-by-lisa-kleypas-2019" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sara and Derek</a>!&nbsp;</p><p>Jen recommends&nbsp;<a href="https://www.letsmakeart.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Let’s Make Art</a>&nbsp;if you’re looking for something fun to power you through until we’re all vaccinated. Check out&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/product-page/romancelandia-sticker-club" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kelly’s Romance Sticker of the Month Club</a>.</p><p>Next week, we’ll be reading&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3rBZiuC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Matter of Class</a>&nbsp;by Mary Balogh. WE PROMISE.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Why aren't there more Fantasy Romances?</strong>&nbsp;Later this spring, we’re having an episode with&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/zlikeinzorro" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Zoraida Cordova</a>&nbsp;about fantasy romance. Until then, maybe you’ll be interested&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/30sOVx7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Court of Silver Flames</a>, the newest release from Sarah J. Mass.</p><p><strong>When did Series becomes so Popular?</strong>&nbsp;We talked about this in our episode about&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/12/21/s0320-romance-families-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">romance families</a>, so you might want to check that out for a longer discussion of this topic.&nbsp;</p><p>Perhaps you are like Jen and want to know more about how to&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thebigquestions.com/2020/08/13/how-to-kill-off-amazons-damned-popular-highlights/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">turn off the “popular highlights”</a>series on your Kindle.&nbsp;</p><p>Oh the 80s and 90s:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/bookseries/B00CKCW0LI/ref=dp_st_0553219782" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lovesepts series with the Delaneys</a>, or&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/series/67366-mackenzie-blackthorn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Elizabeth Lowell’s series with heroes named after states</a>.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>What's the State of Publishing? What are the different Trim Sizes?</strong>&nbsp;One of the reasons mass market paperbacks (MMPB) are harder to get is because of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/bookselling/article/73668-is-mass-market-dying-or-just-evolving-again.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a merger between printers</a>, which explains the transition to&nbsp;<a href="https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/publisher-news/article/83217-harlequin-introduces-larger-mass-market-paperback.html#:~:text=Beginning%20in%20March%2C%20Harlequin%20quietly,will%20be%20priced%20at%20%249.99." rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mass Market Max</a>.</p><p>All about&nbsp;<a href="https://bobonbooks.com/2019/11/06/what-happens-to-unsold-books/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">stripped or remaindered books</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://wordcatcher.com/what-do-publishers-do-with-unsold-books/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">what happens when a bookstore returns a book to the publisher</a>.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>How Can You Afford Your Romance Habit?</strong>&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3t8Jn75" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kindle Unlimited</a>, obviously.&nbsp;</p><p>You should absolutely get the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.overdrive.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Libby app (managed by Overdrive)</a>&nbsp;and use it to check books out of your local library. If your library system has&nbsp;<a href="https://www.hoopladigital.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hoopla</a>, you should check it out.&nbsp;<a href="https://bookriot.com/comparing-public-library-ebook-platforms/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Here’s a quick primer on the differences between these apps</a>.</p><p>It’s essential to subscribe to the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bookbub.com/ebook-deals/latest" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">BookBub daily email</a>, you can choose from a number of categories. Also,&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/The_Book_Queen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">you should follow The Book Queen on Twitter</a>, who posts a daily thread of what's on sale.&nbsp;</p><p>Finally, you should use&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ereaderiq.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">eReaderIQ</a>&nbsp;to track authors and specific books, and they will email you when the prices drop.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Who do we want to write our Life Story?</strong>&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3qvdEeU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kleypas</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/38nKKqA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kresley</a>.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>What are the Best Romance Craft Books?</strong>&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/M_GTv416-3Y" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">OH-IO</a>&nbsp;is what all the Ohioans say. And there’s nothing more midwestern than&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/4E4AQkvl1KU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“ope.”</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/_Yhyp-_hX2s" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">It's "Ope There Goes Gravity"</a>&nbsp;and we&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/TylerJRoney/status/1030261311530262530?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">will not be taking questions at this time</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>Sarah recommends the following craft books:&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3va8l89" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Romancing the Beat</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3kYPuZ5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Save the Cat</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3vkFZIu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Heroine’s Journey</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero%27s_journey" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">(And here’s the Hero’s Journey).</a></p><p><strong>Can a Hero by a Known Kidnapper?</strong>&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3v5gESN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ask St. Vincent</a>, although he doesn’t kidnap the heroine. It depends on the reason for the kidnapping--for example, his childhood home is part of her dowry, meaning&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3t5SoOp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Rogue by Any Other Name</a>&nbsp;or try&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3cgDONk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dark Mafia Prince</a>. But these stories are less common in contemporaries, unless it’s “dark romance.”</p><p><strong>Why aren't there more Vibrators?</strong>&nbsp;It's such a good question, and we are slowly seeing more of them. Check out&nbsp;<a href="https://eliawinters.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Elia Winters' blog where she reviews sex toys</a>. Other books to check out:&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2N0R2oG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">It Happened One Summer</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/30r2Rrx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Happy Endings</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3vacyIZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">You Had Me at Hola</a>.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Why Are there so Many Dukes?</strong>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.npr.org/2013/07/11/201184280/put-up-your-dukes-romances-favorite-rank" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Because people buy them.</a></p><p><strong>Why don't we have better names for different types of Illustrated Covers?</strong>&nbsp;Because we're readers and don't know enough art words? The word cartoon has a childish connotation, and so we think that's why we started using illustrated. Sometimes we hear the phrase&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1278510835321786368?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"photo-realistic" to describe the previous illustrated style</a>.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Did Jane Austen write Contemporaries?</strong>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1358442913408155649?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Yes.</a></p><p>Historical romance are set in the past, and an example of one set in the recent past is&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3t66Wh6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Loud is How I Love You</a>&nbsp;by Mercy Brown.</p><p><strong>Why are Cover Reveals Important?</strong>&nbsp;Publicity, and if you want to see a great new cover, check out the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/CMAUBNCA8Eq/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">new cover for The Kiss Quotient.</a></p><p><strong>Can You be a Casual Romance Reader?</strong>&nbsp;Yes! You can. Please just tell us to calm down, and maybe just start with our&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/11/23/s0316-best-romance-novels-of-2020" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">best of lists</a>. Have fun!&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Where are the Curvy Heroes?</strong>&nbsp;It's so tricky, but we like&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3qrKMnG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Marie Liscomb's Champion's Heart series</a>. There's&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3v7aIZk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a few</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/38qtiBZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from Jessa Kane</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/active/11822364/Are-action-figures-giving-boys-body-image-anxiety.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">But body image issues are present even in children's toys</a>.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>What does "Two Ps in V" mean?</strong>&nbsp;It's two penises, one vagina. Usually, one P waits its turn, but in&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3cl6tAT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Architect by Nikki Sloan</a>&nbsp;and also Ready and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/9209102-ready-and-willing?ac=1&amp;from_search=true&amp;qid=J1EQo8vyFt&amp;rank=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Willing by Cara McKenna</a>, (which is no longer available) it's actually happening simultaneously. Romance really does have everything!</p><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/3/9/30229-your-romance-questions-answered </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/3/9/30229-your-romance-questions-answered]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:6048118f2228d26f979d04e4</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2021 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/e396a4cc-a2a2-408a-85c7-809dda529b53/fated-mates-romance-questions.mp3" length="95902996" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:34:24</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>35</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>35</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Sarah is *still* on deadline (WE KNOW), but we’re answering your questions about romance novels, publishing, writing and more. In this episode, we’re talking about stand-alone romance series, heroes who do bad stuff, Jane Austen, cover reveals and more.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-e396a4cc-a2a2-408a-85c7-809dda529b53.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S03.28: What makes a Romance Novel a Romance Novel?</title><itunes:title>What makes a Romance Novel a Romance Novel?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Ok, so it’s that time of year and Sarah is on deadline, which means we’re just kicking our next read along episode down the road until she’s done (which she <em>swears</em> will be very soon). So, this week, we’ve got a freewheeling episode that we’ve been thinking about for a while — let’s talk about what makes a romance novel a romance novel (hint, it’s not when the heroine is run over by a train). </p><p>Whether you're new to Fated Mates this month or have been with us for all three seasons, we adore you, and we're so grateful to have you.&nbsp;We hope you’re reading the best books this week.</p><p>Our next read along is Mary Balogh's&nbsp;<em>A Matter of Class</em>, a short historical novel. Get it for only $2.99 at&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3arz7QV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-matter-of-class-perseus/1125867460?ean=9780786752218" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/a-matter-of-class/id1241871278?ct=books_a_matter_of_class&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_toolbox&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/a-matter-of-class-3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>&nbsp;or&nbsp;<a href="https://books.google.com/books/about/A_Matter_of_Class.html?id=Q3ZKxoNWV7IC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Google Books</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>We keep putting Mary Balogh in the corner, but swear to God, our next read-along will be&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2OgFDS8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>A Matter of Class</em></a>. Also, we've been pronouncing her name wrong -- it's "Bah-log" not "Bay-lo" We'll get it right on the read along we promise.</li><li>A couple of weeks ago,&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1356986048866373632?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen asked about what articles romance readers share with people new to genre</a>, and the results were interesting.</li><li>The Bridgerton effect:&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/NUIN04iIJrM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Regé-Jean Page on SNL</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://variety.com/2021/music/news/bridgerton-the-musical-tiktok-broadway-abigail-barlow-emily-bear-1234893087/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Bridgerton musical</a>&nbsp;on TikTok, and the brilliant&nbsp;<a href="https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/shondalands-regency-bridgerton/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Patricia A. Matthew in the Los Angeles Review of Books</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://kjcharleswriter.com/2018/05/14/do-not-mess-with-the-happy-ever-after-defining-the-romance-novel/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Happily Ever After (HEA), or the Happy For Now (HFN), is a requirement if you want to categorize it as romance.</a></li><li>Nicholas Sparks doesn’t write romance (per the previous item), but this kiss between&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instyle.com/celebrity/ryan-gosling-rachel-mcadams-breakup-timeline" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rachel McAdams and Ryan Gosling</a>&nbsp;was&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/EemLsTG5fX8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">great on film</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/CC_WUNYux_A" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">great on the MTV Movie Awards</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2016/06/113482/me-before-you-disability-rights-activists-backlash" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Me Before You</em></a>&nbsp;has horrible disability rep and shouldn't ever appear on anyone's list of Best Romances.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/oubliette" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Oubliette</a>&nbsp;is a great word. Surprising no one, Sarah likes it&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLhKLfEyDQ0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">because of Labyrinth</a>, obviously.</li><li>In WandaVivsion, Vision (played by Paul Bettany) asks Wanda, “What is grief if not love persevering?” And&nbsp;<a href="https://www.themarysue.com/wandavision-grief-years-later/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">it struck a chord with a lot of people.&nbsp;</a></li><li>If you're interested in the book about the speed skater and the figure skater, it's&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3e3gwgb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fire on the Ice by Tamsen Parker</a>. It's HOT.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/28/arts/television/bridgerton-outlander-romance-novels.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">In the New York Times, Matthew B. Roberts, a showrunner for Outlander said that one of the difficulties of adapting romance is that "You can’t film a thought."</a></li><li><a href="https://www.masterclass.com/articles/understanding-deus-ex-machina#quiz-0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Deus ex Machina</a>&nbsp;never works in a romance novel. I said what I said.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/vuRSsac-I2k" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Speed is a romance</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/spGIPcb2haw?t=37" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jeff Daniels does great eye work</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/masterpiece/shows/miss-scarlet-and-the-duke/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Miss Scarlet and the Duke</a>&nbsp;is a TV show that follows a lot of romance conventions, and Sarah says the sexual tension is terrific. Also,&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1356712931623399424?s=21" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this beard</a>.</li><li>Jen used&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3e5u5fc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Working Girl</a>&nbsp;as an example of a movie where the woman's journey is more important than the romantic arc. Yes, she's dating herself, but whatever,&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1357780340501274624?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">it's an age-appropriate pop culture reference for her!</a></li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/3/1/s0328-romance-novels-101 </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, so it’s that time of year and Sarah is on deadline, which means we’re just kicking our next read along episode down the road until she’s done (which she <em>swears</em> will be very soon). So, this week, we’ve got a freewheeling episode that we’ve been thinking about for a while — let’s talk about what makes a romance novel a romance novel (hint, it’s not when the heroine is run over by a train). </p><p>Whether you're new to Fated Mates this month or have been with us for all three seasons, we adore you, and we're so grateful to have you.&nbsp;We hope you’re reading the best books this week.</p><p>Our next read along is Mary Balogh's&nbsp;<em>A Matter of Class</em>, a short historical novel. Get it for only $2.99 at&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3arz7QV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-matter-of-class-perseus/1125867460?ean=9780786752218" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/a-matter-of-class/id1241871278?ct=books_a_matter_of_class&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_toolbox&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/a-matter-of-class-3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>&nbsp;or&nbsp;<a href="https://books.google.com/books/about/A_Matter_of_Class.html?id=Q3ZKxoNWV7IC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Google Books</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>We keep putting Mary Balogh in the corner, but swear to God, our next read-along will be&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2OgFDS8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>A Matter of Class</em></a>. Also, we've been pronouncing her name wrong -- it's "Bah-log" not "Bay-lo" We'll get it right on the read along we promise.</li><li>A couple of weeks ago,&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1356986048866373632?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen asked about what articles romance readers share with people new to genre</a>, and the results were interesting.</li><li>The Bridgerton effect:&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/NUIN04iIJrM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Regé-Jean Page on SNL</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://variety.com/2021/music/news/bridgerton-the-musical-tiktok-broadway-abigail-barlow-emily-bear-1234893087/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Bridgerton musical</a>&nbsp;on TikTok, and the brilliant&nbsp;<a href="https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/shondalands-regency-bridgerton/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Patricia A. Matthew in the Los Angeles Review of Books</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://kjcharleswriter.com/2018/05/14/do-not-mess-with-the-happy-ever-after-defining-the-romance-novel/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Happily Ever After (HEA), or the Happy For Now (HFN), is a requirement if you want to categorize it as romance.</a></li><li>Nicholas Sparks doesn’t write romance (per the previous item), but this kiss between&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instyle.com/celebrity/ryan-gosling-rachel-mcadams-breakup-timeline" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rachel McAdams and Ryan Gosling</a>&nbsp;was&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/EemLsTG5fX8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">great on film</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/CC_WUNYux_A" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">great on the MTV Movie Awards</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2016/06/113482/me-before-you-disability-rights-activists-backlash" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Me Before You</em></a>&nbsp;has horrible disability rep and shouldn't ever appear on anyone's list of Best Romances.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/oubliette" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Oubliette</a>&nbsp;is a great word. Surprising no one, Sarah likes it&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLhKLfEyDQ0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">because of Labyrinth</a>, obviously.</li><li>In WandaVivsion, Vision (played by Paul Bettany) asks Wanda, “What is grief if not love persevering?” And&nbsp;<a href="https://www.themarysue.com/wandavision-grief-years-later/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">it struck a chord with a lot of people.&nbsp;</a></li><li>If you're interested in the book about the speed skater and the figure skater, it's&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3e3gwgb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fire on the Ice by Tamsen Parker</a>. It's HOT.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/28/arts/television/bridgerton-outlander-romance-novels.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">In the New York Times, Matthew B. Roberts, a showrunner for Outlander said that one of the difficulties of adapting romance is that "You can’t film a thought."</a></li><li><a href="https://www.masterclass.com/articles/understanding-deus-ex-machina#quiz-0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Deus ex Machina</a>&nbsp;never works in a romance novel. I said what I said.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/vuRSsac-I2k" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Speed is a romance</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/spGIPcb2haw?t=37" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jeff Daniels does great eye work</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/masterpiece/shows/miss-scarlet-and-the-duke/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Miss Scarlet and the Duke</a>&nbsp;is a TV show that follows a lot of romance conventions, and Sarah says the sexual tension is terrific. Also,&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1356712931623399424?s=21" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this beard</a>.</li><li>Jen used&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3e5u5fc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Working Girl</a>&nbsp;as an example of a movie where the woman's journey is more important than the romantic arc. Yes, she's dating herself, but whatever,&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1357780340501274624?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">it's an age-appropriate pop culture reference for her!</a></li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/3/1/s0328-romance-novels-101 </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/3/1/s0328-romance-novels-101]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:603d9cf4d696b775549cdc90</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2021 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/5f797106-12f9-4e08-aebe-c09f7fb10fc6/fatedmates-whatisromance-final.mp3" length="38447737" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:10:30</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>34</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>34</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Ok, so it’s that time of year and Sarah is on deadline, which means we’re just kicking our next read along episode down the road until she’s done (which she swears will be very soon). So, this week, we’ve got a freewheeling episode that we’ve been thinking about for a while — let’s talk about what makes a romance novel a romance novel (hint, it’s not when the heroine is run over by a train).</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-5f797106-12f9-4e08-aebe-c09f7fb10fc6.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S03.27: Retellings in Romance Novels with Kate Clayborn</title><itunes:title>Retellings in Romance Novels with Kate Clayborn</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We are joined by the fabulous Kate Clayborn — the first in the Fated Mates five-timer club! — to talk about about retellings in romance and to celebrate the launch of her new book,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3qsu7B3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Love At First</em></a>, which you can get wherever books are sold. We talk about the difference between retellings and homages, about Shakespeare and mythology and retellings of classic texts versus modern ones. And of course, we fill your TBR. </p><p>Whether you're new to Fated Mates this month or have been with us for all three seasons, we adore you, and we're so grateful to have you.&nbsp;</p><p>Next week, we're back with a read along of Mary Balogh's&nbsp;<em>A Matter of Class</em>, a short historical novel. Get it for only $2.99 at&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3arz7QV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-matter-of-class-perseus/1125867460?ean=9780786752218" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/a-matter-of-class/id1241871278?ct=books_a_matter_of_class&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_toolbox&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/a-matter-of-class-3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>&nbsp;or&nbsp;<a href="https://books.google.com/books/about/A_Matter_of_Class.html?id=Q3ZKxoNWV7IC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Google Books</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kateclayborn.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kate Clayborn</a>, our first five-timer. She was with us for the&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/25-best-friends-sibling-romances-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Best Friend’s Sibling Interstitial</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/27/17-the-player" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kresley’s The Player</a>, the&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/3/9/s0227-sickbed-romance-interstitial-with-kate-clayborn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sickbed Scenes Interstitial</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/1/31/s0324-derek-craven-day-reveals-that-were-going-through-some-things" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Derek Craven Day 2021</a>, and today’s interstitial on Romance Retellings.&nbsp;</li><li>Texas and the rest of America got hit with&nbsp;<a href="https://www.texastribune.org/series/winter-storm-power-outage/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">some espically bad winter weather this February</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/20/climate/united-states-infrastructure-storms.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">This is climate change</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Kate released&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3aS6GMx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love at First</a>&nbsp;this week, which is an homage to&nbsp;<a href="https://shakespeare.folger.edu/shakespeares-works/romeo-and-juliet/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Romeo and Juliet</a>. Kate’s 2020 book,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.overdrive.com/media/4834596/love-lettering" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love Lettering, is an Overdrive read. Get it&nbsp;<em>today</em>&nbsp;with no wait!&nbsp;</a></li><li><a href="https://www.today.com/news/jill-biden-puts-surprise-valentine-s-day-messages-white-house-t208886" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dr. Jill Biden loves Valentine’s Day.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.themarysue.com/jk-rowlings-awful-gender-politics-should-be-no-surprise-to-harry-potter-fans/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">JK Rowling is a problem,</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2020/07/why-millennial-harry-potter-fans-reject-jk-rowling/613870/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">it’s changed the way many Harry Potter fans think about her books</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Yes, yes,&nbsp;<a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-y_0KLayoH6s/UUt6KcGC-WI/AAAAAAAADUw/pkV7z42dvnM/s1600/what-the-author-meant.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the English Teacher memes are so funny</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://i.imgflip.com/3jitlr.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Well take that.&nbsp;</a></li><li>Tl;dr:&nbsp;<a href="https://conorneill.com/2018/04/21/understanding-personality-the-12-jungian-archetypes/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">archetypes</a>&nbsp;are about character,while retellings are about plot.&nbsp;</li><li>In&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3bwLjzb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Where Dreams Begin,</a>&nbsp;Zachary Bronson is a hero that follows the Beast archetype, and Jen<a href="https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-bEhOJMZH68a-Ew2XABCG0m2Cx5nbKN4?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">&nbsp;saw it in the scene where Holly first enters his house.&nbsp;</a></li><li>Story can be a safe way to explore terrifying ideas about society and people. For example, both&nbsp;<a href="https://illinois.pbslearningmedia.org/resource/ket-storytelling-104/la-llorona/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">La Llorona</a>and&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/M7cIc7IAN6U" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Medea</a>&nbsp;are about mothers who kill their children, but have a kind of distance that the story of&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Yates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Andrea Yates&nbsp;</a>does not.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/jenlynnbarnes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dr. Jennifer Lynn Barnes</a>&nbsp;writes&nbsp;<a href="https://player.fm/series/red-sneaker-writers/ep-008-interview-with-jennifer-lynn-barnes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">about storytelling and the universal ID.&nbsp;</a></li><li>Our next read along episode will be&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2ZJJ0mV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Matter of Class by Mary Balogh</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/2/24/s0327-retellings-in-romance-novels-with-kate-clayborn </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are joined by the fabulous Kate Clayborn — the first in the Fated Mates five-timer club! — to talk about about retellings in romance and to celebrate the launch of her new book,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3qsu7B3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Love At First</em></a>, which you can get wherever books are sold. We talk about the difference between retellings and homages, about Shakespeare and mythology and retellings of classic texts versus modern ones. And of course, we fill your TBR. </p><p>Whether you're new to Fated Mates this month or have been with us for all three seasons, we adore you, and we're so grateful to have you.&nbsp;</p><p>Next week, we're back with a read along of Mary Balogh's&nbsp;<em>A Matter of Class</em>, a short historical novel. Get it for only $2.99 at&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3arz7QV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-matter-of-class-perseus/1125867460?ean=9780786752218" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/a-matter-of-class/id1241871278?ct=books_a_matter_of_class&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_toolbox&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/a-matter-of-class-3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>&nbsp;or&nbsp;<a href="https://books.google.com/books/about/A_Matter_of_Class.html?id=Q3ZKxoNWV7IC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Google Books</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kateclayborn.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kate Clayborn</a>, our first five-timer. She was with us for the&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/25-best-friends-sibling-romances-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Best Friend’s Sibling Interstitial</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/27/17-the-player" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kresley’s The Player</a>, the&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/3/9/s0227-sickbed-romance-interstitial-with-kate-clayborn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sickbed Scenes Interstitial</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/1/31/s0324-derek-craven-day-reveals-that-were-going-through-some-things" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Derek Craven Day 2021</a>, and today’s interstitial on Romance Retellings.&nbsp;</li><li>Texas and the rest of America got hit with&nbsp;<a href="https://www.texastribune.org/series/winter-storm-power-outage/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">some espically bad winter weather this February</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/20/climate/united-states-infrastructure-storms.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">This is climate change</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Kate released&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3aS6GMx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love at First</a>&nbsp;this week, which is an homage to&nbsp;<a href="https://shakespeare.folger.edu/shakespeares-works/romeo-and-juliet/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Romeo and Juliet</a>. Kate’s 2020 book,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.overdrive.com/media/4834596/love-lettering" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love Lettering, is an Overdrive read. Get it&nbsp;<em>today</em>&nbsp;with no wait!&nbsp;</a></li><li><a href="https://www.today.com/news/jill-biden-puts-surprise-valentine-s-day-messages-white-house-t208886" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dr. Jill Biden loves Valentine’s Day.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.themarysue.com/jk-rowlings-awful-gender-politics-should-be-no-surprise-to-harry-potter-fans/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">JK Rowling is a problem,</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2020/07/why-millennial-harry-potter-fans-reject-jk-rowling/613870/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">it’s changed the way many Harry Potter fans think about her books</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Yes, yes,&nbsp;<a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-y_0KLayoH6s/UUt6KcGC-WI/AAAAAAAADUw/pkV7z42dvnM/s1600/what-the-author-meant.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the English Teacher memes are so funny</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://i.imgflip.com/3jitlr.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Well take that.&nbsp;</a></li><li>Tl;dr:&nbsp;<a href="https://conorneill.com/2018/04/21/understanding-personality-the-12-jungian-archetypes/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">archetypes</a>&nbsp;are about character,while retellings are about plot.&nbsp;</li><li>In&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3bwLjzb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Where Dreams Begin,</a>&nbsp;Zachary Bronson is a hero that follows the Beast archetype, and Jen<a href="https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-bEhOJMZH68a-Ew2XABCG0m2Cx5nbKN4?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">&nbsp;saw it in the scene where Holly first enters his house.&nbsp;</a></li><li>Story can be a safe way to explore terrifying ideas about society and people. For example, both&nbsp;<a href="https://illinois.pbslearningmedia.org/resource/ket-storytelling-104/la-llorona/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">La Llorona</a>and&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/M7cIc7IAN6U" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Medea</a>&nbsp;are about mothers who kill their children, but have a kind of distance that the story of&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Yates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Andrea Yates&nbsp;</a>does not.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/jenlynnbarnes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dr. Jennifer Lynn Barnes</a>&nbsp;writes&nbsp;<a href="https://player.fm/series/red-sneaker-writers/ep-008-interview-with-jennifer-lynn-barnes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">about storytelling and the universal ID.&nbsp;</a></li><li>Our next read along episode will be&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2ZJJ0mV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Matter of Class by Mary Balogh</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/2/24/s0327-retellings-in-romance-novels-with-kate-clayborn </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/2/24/s0327-retellings-in-romance-novels-with-kate-clayborn]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:60356fd26c409d45cb5028c8</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2021 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/8df869ca-5e3d-400b-bc4a-c1dfa90fbcdc/fated-mates-retellings-final.mp3" length="85087465" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:21:32</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>33</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>33</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We are joined by the fabulous Kate Clayborn — the first in the Fated Mates five-timer club! — to talk about about retellings in romance and to celebrate the launch of her new book, Love At First, which you can get wherever books are sold. We talk about the difference between retellings and homages, about Shakespeare and mythology and retellings of classic texts versus modern ones. And of course, we fill your TBR.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-8df869ca-5e3d-400b-bc4a-c1dfa90fbcdc.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S03.26: What to Read if You Loved Bridgerton</title><itunes:title>What to Read if You Loved Bridgerton</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>So you watched the Bridgerton Netflix series and you've torn through the books, and now you're desperate for more historical romance while you wait for Season 2 of Bridgerton?&nbsp;</p><p>Don't worry, dear readers, these podcasters have you covered. Tuck into our What to Read if You Loved Bridgeron episode for a massive list of historical romance recommendation based on what you might have loved in Bridgerton! Is it boxing? Is it I don't know how sex works? Is it the wigs? Is it the scene with the spoon?! Whatever it is...we've got you covered. And when you're done with this one, go check out our episode on&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/12/21/s0320-romance-families-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">romance series featuring big families</a>!</p><p>Whether you're new to Fated Mates this month or have been with us for all three seasons, we adore you, and we're so grateful to have you.&nbsp;</p><p>Please join us next week to chat with the fabulous Kate Clayborn about retellings in romance and to celebrate the launch of her new book,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3qsu7B3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Love At First</em></a>, which you can preorder now or get wherever books are sold (<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781496725196" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">even your local indie</a>!) next Tuesday, February 23, 2021.&nbsp;</p><p>In two weeks, we're back with a read along of Mary Balogh's&nbsp;<em>A Matter of Class</em>, which is one of Sarah's favorite historicals. We'll talk about why then. Get it for only $2.99 at&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3arz7QV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-matter-of-class-perseus/1125867460?ean=9780786752218" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/a-matter-of-class/id1241871278?ct=books_a_matter_of_class&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_toolbox&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/a-matter-of-class-3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>&nbsp;or&nbsp;<a href="https://books.google.com/books/about/A_Matter_of_Class.html?id=Q3ZKxoNWV7IC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Google Books</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>We have some ideas about winter sports, which is that maybe they are best left to other people. But here are some photos of Chicago’s&nbsp;<a href="https://maggiedaleypark.com/things-to-do-see/skating-ribbon/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ice skating ribbon</a>&nbsp;and the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.hoerrschaudt.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/390-10.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sledding hill at Soldier Field</a>, which even has its&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/ShermanPhd/status/1349085287452991493?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">own snowmaking machines</a>! When the&nbsp;<a href="https://abc7chicago.com/obama-presidential-center-jackson-park-chicago-library-location/10303168/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Obama Library</a>&nbsp;is built,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/05/03/president-obama-michelle-obama-unveils-design-future-presidential-library/101238328/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Michelle Obama requested they include a sledding hill because she remembered wanting to sled closer to home when she was a kid.&nbsp;</a></li><li>In the 90s,&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/1UWT0dMrYOM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">they really let Hugh Grant do anything</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><em>The Luxe</em>&nbsp;is a gilded age YA series,&nbsp;<a href="https://i.pinimg.com/originals/19/2e/66/192e669f4d6c2ed1c69e09780c3fe3b2.png" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">and the original covers were so gorgeous</a>, as compared to&nbsp;<a href="https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51FlNpPgOUL._SX330_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the rejacketing</a>. We are not taking questions at this time. We can't find the video Sarah talks about, probably because it was THIRTEEN YEARS AGO (lolsob), but you can watch this fun one about the cover shoot for Splendor, the final book in the series,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZH7TYpK4Lk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here</a>!&nbsp;</li><li>The comedian who did the Bad TV Impression of Bridgerton is Kieran Hodgson. His YouTube channel was recently emptied of content, which makes us think he's got his own TV show coming, but in the meantime, you can watch the Bridgerton hilarity&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/kieranchodgson/status/1347585995294838792?s=21" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">on his Twitter feed</a>. We recommend you do this immediately.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.oprahmag.com/entertainment/tv-movies/a35034695/what-is-a-rake-person-romance-novels/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Speaking of rakes, Sarah explained them to Oprah Magazine</a>. We aren’t the only ones who thought&nbsp;<a href="https://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/119760664.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Bridgerton brothers were indistinguishable.</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_noun" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A collective noun</a>&nbsp;is the name for a group of things.&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3u4IWfA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Cache of Jewels&nbsp;</a>is a very charming picture book about collective nouns if you’re into that sort of thing.&nbsp;</li><li>If you love Queen Charlotte’s wigs, you can read this piece in Glamour about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.glamour.com/story/bridgerton-hair-hidden-messages" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the hidden meanings in Bridgerton hairstyles</a>, or&nbsp;<a href="https://instagram.com/adamjamesphillips" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">follow the wig-maker on Instagram</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Here’s a&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/mformley1920/status/1361324026099032067?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">great timeline of the books in the Beverly Jenkins universe</a>&nbsp;made by&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/mformley1920" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scentsational Rynnie.</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/QwIC0Hlmp-8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen interviewed Ms. Bev on&nbsp;<em>Wild Rain</em>’s release day for Love’s Sweet Arrow</a>.</li><li>In&nbsp;<em>Heart and Hand</em>, Julie is a member of&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Four_Hundred_(1892)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Four Hundred,</a>&nbsp;the most exclusive society families. She attended&nbsp;<a href="http://info.vassar.edu/about/vassar/history.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vassar College</a>, which opened in 1865. To watch Jen’s interview with Rebel Carter, KJ Charles, Caroline Linden, and Amalie Howard,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/leaguexhra/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">join the Facebook group, The League of Extraordinary Historical Romance Authors</a>.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunter%27s_Tea_Shop" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gunter’s Tea Shop</a>&nbsp;is a real place if you liked&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thecut.com/2020/12/reg-jean-pages-spoon-is-the-hottest-thing-in-bridgerton.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">that scene with the spoon.</a></li><li>Tell us about your historicals where there are duels: We've already got&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3apGmJa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Nine Rules to Break when Romancing a Rake</em></a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3s1tMpq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Lady Hellion</em></a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3s4h7lx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Serpent Prince</em>&nbsp;on our list.</a></li><li>Sarah didn’t know Jen was going to bring up Boxing, or she would have been ready to recommend&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2M31608" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Piper Huguley’s A Champion’s Heart</a>, which is a beautiful inspirational romance.&nbsp;</li><li>If you want to know more about the connection between writing and boxing, Sarah recommends the Library of America's&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3qsYwzo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>At the Fights: American Writers on Boxing</em></a>. Here's more about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.onwardathletics.com/blogs/onwardu/origins-of-boxing-history-and-evolution-of-boxing-gloves" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the fascinating history of boxing gloves.</a></li><li>Jen enjoyed two movies about women who box:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.yahoo.com/now/michelle-rodriguez-girlfight-role-alyssa-milano-fast-and-furious-avatar-170013019.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Girlfight with Michelle Rodriguez</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/million-dollar-baby-2005" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Million Dollar Baby with Hillary Swank</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Next week, we'll have Kate Clayborn on to talk about retellings and her new book,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2OKwKQZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Love at First</em></a>. Our next read along book is&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2ZlaXBt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>A Matter of Class</em>&nbsp;by Mary Balogh</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/2/16/s0326-bridgerton-read-alikes </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon?...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you watched the Bridgerton Netflix series and you've torn through the books, and now you're desperate for more historical romance while you wait for Season 2 of Bridgerton?&nbsp;</p><p>Don't worry, dear readers, these podcasters have you covered. Tuck into our What to Read if You Loved Bridgeron episode for a massive list of historical romance recommendation based on what you might have loved in Bridgerton! Is it boxing? Is it I don't know how sex works? Is it the wigs? Is it the scene with the spoon?! Whatever it is...we've got you covered. And when you're done with this one, go check out our episode on&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/12/21/s0320-romance-families-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">romance series featuring big families</a>!</p><p>Whether you're new to Fated Mates this month or have been with us for all three seasons, we adore you, and we're so grateful to have you.&nbsp;</p><p>Please join us next week to chat with the fabulous Kate Clayborn about retellings in romance and to celebrate the launch of her new book,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3qsu7B3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Love At First</em></a>, which you can preorder now or get wherever books are sold (<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781496725196" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">even your local indie</a>!) next Tuesday, February 23, 2021.&nbsp;</p><p>In two weeks, we're back with a read along of Mary Balogh's&nbsp;<em>A Matter of Class</em>, which is one of Sarah's favorite historicals. We'll talk about why then. Get it for only $2.99 at&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3arz7QV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-matter-of-class-perseus/1125867460?ean=9780786752218" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/a-matter-of-class/id1241871278?ct=books_a_matter_of_class&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_toolbox&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/a-matter-of-class-3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>&nbsp;or&nbsp;<a href="https://books.google.com/books/about/A_Matter_of_Class.html?id=Q3ZKxoNWV7IC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Google Books</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>We have some ideas about winter sports, which is that maybe they are best left to other people. But here are some photos of Chicago’s&nbsp;<a href="https://maggiedaleypark.com/things-to-do-see/skating-ribbon/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ice skating ribbon</a>&nbsp;and the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.hoerrschaudt.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/390-10.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sledding hill at Soldier Field</a>, which even has its&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/ShermanPhd/status/1349085287452991493?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">own snowmaking machines</a>! When the&nbsp;<a href="https://abc7chicago.com/obama-presidential-center-jackson-park-chicago-library-location/10303168/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Obama Library</a>&nbsp;is built,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/05/03/president-obama-michelle-obama-unveils-design-future-presidential-library/101238328/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Michelle Obama requested they include a sledding hill because she remembered wanting to sled closer to home when she was a kid.&nbsp;</a></li><li>In the 90s,&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/1UWT0dMrYOM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">they really let Hugh Grant do anything</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><em>The Luxe</em>&nbsp;is a gilded age YA series,&nbsp;<a href="https://i.pinimg.com/originals/19/2e/66/192e669f4d6c2ed1c69e09780c3fe3b2.png" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">and the original covers were so gorgeous</a>, as compared to&nbsp;<a href="https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51FlNpPgOUL._SX330_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the rejacketing</a>. We are not taking questions at this time. We can't find the video Sarah talks about, probably because it was THIRTEEN YEARS AGO (lolsob), but you can watch this fun one about the cover shoot for Splendor, the final book in the series,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZH7TYpK4Lk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here</a>!&nbsp;</li><li>The comedian who did the Bad TV Impression of Bridgerton is Kieran Hodgson. His YouTube channel was recently emptied of content, which makes us think he's got his own TV show coming, but in the meantime, you can watch the Bridgerton hilarity&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/kieranchodgson/status/1347585995294838792?s=21" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">on his Twitter feed</a>. We recommend you do this immediately.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.oprahmag.com/entertainment/tv-movies/a35034695/what-is-a-rake-person-romance-novels/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Speaking of rakes, Sarah explained them to Oprah Magazine</a>. We aren’t the only ones who thought&nbsp;<a href="https://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/119760664.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Bridgerton brothers were indistinguishable.</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_noun" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A collective noun</a>&nbsp;is the name for a group of things.&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3u4IWfA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Cache of Jewels&nbsp;</a>is a very charming picture book about collective nouns if you’re into that sort of thing.&nbsp;</li><li>If you love Queen Charlotte’s wigs, you can read this piece in Glamour about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.glamour.com/story/bridgerton-hair-hidden-messages" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the hidden meanings in Bridgerton hairstyles</a>, or&nbsp;<a href="https://instagram.com/adamjamesphillips" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">follow the wig-maker on Instagram</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Here’s a&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/mformley1920/status/1361324026099032067?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">great timeline of the books in the Beverly Jenkins universe</a>&nbsp;made by&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/mformley1920" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scentsational Rynnie.</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/QwIC0Hlmp-8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen interviewed Ms. Bev on&nbsp;<em>Wild Rain</em>’s release day for Love’s Sweet Arrow</a>.</li><li>In&nbsp;<em>Heart and Hand</em>, Julie is a member of&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Four_Hundred_(1892)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Four Hundred,</a>&nbsp;the most exclusive society families. She attended&nbsp;<a href="http://info.vassar.edu/about/vassar/history.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vassar College</a>, which opened in 1865. To watch Jen’s interview with Rebel Carter, KJ Charles, Caroline Linden, and Amalie Howard,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/leaguexhra/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">join the Facebook group, The League of Extraordinary Historical Romance Authors</a>.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunter%27s_Tea_Shop" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gunter’s Tea Shop</a>&nbsp;is a real place if you liked&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thecut.com/2020/12/reg-jean-pages-spoon-is-the-hottest-thing-in-bridgerton.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">that scene with the spoon.</a></li><li>Tell us about your historicals where there are duels: We've already got&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3apGmJa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Nine Rules to Break when Romancing a Rake</em></a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3s1tMpq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Lady Hellion</em></a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3s4h7lx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Serpent Prince</em>&nbsp;on our list.</a></li><li>Sarah didn’t know Jen was going to bring up Boxing, or she would have been ready to recommend&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2M31608" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Piper Huguley’s A Champion’s Heart</a>, which is a beautiful inspirational romance.&nbsp;</li><li>If you want to know more about the connection between writing and boxing, Sarah recommends the Library of America's&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3qsYwzo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>At the Fights: American Writers on Boxing</em></a>. Here's more about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.onwardathletics.com/blogs/onwardu/origins-of-boxing-history-and-evolution-of-boxing-gloves" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the fascinating history of boxing gloves.</a></li><li>Jen enjoyed two movies about women who box:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.yahoo.com/now/michelle-rodriguez-girlfight-role-alyssa-milano-fast-and-furious-avatar-170013019.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Girlfight with Michelle Rodriguez</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/million-dollar-baby-2005" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Million Dollar Baby with Hillary Swank</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Next week, we'll have Kate Clayborn on to talk about retellings and her new book,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2OKwKQZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Love at First</em></a>. Our next read along book is&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2ZlaXBt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>A Matter of Class</em>&nbsp;by Mary Balogh</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/2/16/s0326-bridgerton-read-alikes </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/2/16/s0326-bridgerton-read-alikes]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:602bc3cd9c6fb3465e498f8c</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2021 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/5ee4cf9a-8808-43d1-9908-072815468b57/if-you-enjoyed-bridgerton-recs.mp3" length="67544277" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:05:08</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>32</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>32</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>So you watched the Bridgerton Netflix series and you&apos;ve torn through the books, and now you&apos;re desperate for more historical romance while you wait for Season 2 of Bridgerton?

Don&apos;t worry, dear readers, these podcasters have you covered. Tuck into our What to Read if You Loved Bridgeron episode for a massive list of historical romance recommendation based on what you might have loved in Bridgerton! Is it boxing? Is it I don&apos;t know how sex works? Is it the wigs? Is it the scene with the spoon?! Whatever it is...we&apos;ve got you covered. And when you&apos;re done with this one, go check out our episode on romance series featuring big families!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-5ee4cf9a-8808-43d1-9908-072815468b57.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S03.25: The Blackout Billionaires by Naima Simone: They actually do it in the foyer</title><itunes:title>The Blackout Billionaires by Naima Simone: They actually do it in the foyer.</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We are talking about Naima Simone this week — and honestly, we could have picked any of Naima’s series to read because she’s just. that. good. We chose the whole series so we could talk more about the complexities of category romances, about wild plots, about alpha heroes, and about how Sarah is absolute trash for a rich hero and the working class girl on the other side of the tracks. Don’t @ her. </p><p>Next week, we’re back with an interstitial, and in two weeks, we’ve got Kate Clayborn joining us to talk about her upcoming book, Love at First! After that, we’re back to read alongs, but we’ll announce our next read on next week’s episode<em>…</em>see you then. </p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>We had such a great time on&nbsp;<a href="https://song.link/s/5Cjjxm0KEh287xzr2xCpKL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Derek Craven Day</a>. Check out our dedicated&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/derek-craven-day" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Derek Craven Day page</a>. On Derek Craven Day,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/culture/story/read-excerpt-lisa-kleypas-devils-daughter-75564610" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lisa revealed the cover</a>&nbsp;of her upcoming release,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3tKsMaU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Devil in Disguise,</a>&nbsp;which comes out summer 2021.&nbsp;</li><li>The article in the New York Times about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/02/04/parenting/covid-pandemic-mothers-primal-scream.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">three mothers during the Pandemic</a>&nbsp;was a hard, hard read.&nbsp;</li><li>We are all&nbsp;<a href="https://www.discovermagazine.com/mind/how-the-coronavirus-pandemic-is-warping-our-sense-of-time" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">experiencing the strange time warp of the pandemic</a>, but&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/masiragz/status/1356368901622231041?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">some of us even lost a hot year</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Maybe you would like to watch the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/jem-and-the-holograms-2015" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jem and Holograms movie</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Here are some fancy places:&nbsp;<a href="https://pabook.libraries.psu.edu/literary-cultural-heritage-map-pa/feature-articles/philadelphias-main-line-its-not-just-place-its" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Main Line,</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.choosechicago.com/neighborhoods/gold-coast/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Gold Coast,</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.pbs.org/independentlens/films/park-avenue/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Park Avenue,</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/scarsdale-new-york-east-coast-richest-town-photo-tour-2019-3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scarsdale</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/baldwin/2017/03/16/illinois-millionaire-hangouts-just-how-much-trump-will-cut-rich-residents-taxes/?sh=4681c65950cf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lake Forest</a>&nbsp;is fancy, but it was also&nbsp;<a href="https://themillions.com/2016/11/something-sinister-north-shore.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">an actual sundown town</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://sundown.tougaloo.edu/sundowntowns.php" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">so yikes to that</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Here’s&nbsp;<a href="http://www.loveinpanels.com/prose/newbies-guide-to-category-romance#:~:text=What%20is%20category%20romance%3F,in%20each%20line%20every%20month." rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a quick primer about category romance</a>&nbsp;from&nbsp;<a href="http://www.loveinpanels.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love in Panels</a>. Right now in February of 2021, Harlequin&nbsp;<a href="https://www.writeforharlequin.com/about/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">publishes 66 titles every month</a>&nbsp;in&nbsp;<a href="https://www.harlequin.com/shop/pages/series-romance.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">12 different series</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>We’ve had two previous episodes that were specifically about category romance: a fun one with&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/1/27/s0221-old-school-category-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bananas old school categories</a>, and another with&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/7/6/s0245-vivian-stephens-acquisitions-with-librarian-steve-ammidown" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Steve Ammidown about how Vivian Stephens invented the American category</a>. Check out&nbsp;<a href="https://romancehistory.wordpress.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Steve’s new blog about the history of romance.</a></li><li>Pre-pandemic,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/news-and-features/articles/making-harlequin-romance-cover/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen interviewed Tony Horvath from Harlequin about Harlequin’s branding and cover art</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Light a candle for&nbsp;<a href="https://www.harlequin.com/shop/brand/harlequin-blaze.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Harlequin Blaze.</a></li><li>T<a href="https://www.npr.org/2011/01/17/132942244/ikes-warning-of-military-expansion-50-years-later" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">he Military Industrial Complex</a>&nbsp;is a lot to unpack, but&nbsp;<a href="https://www.liveabout.com/top-docs-about-military-industrial-complex-4044845" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">maybe you have the time.</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1357065894934020102?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen is not the president and CEO</a>&nbsp;of&nbsp;<a href="https://glcsinc.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Great Lakes Cold Storage</a>, but they are hiring.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heterochromia_iridum" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heterochromia</a>&nbsp;is a thing, but&nbsp;<a href="https://theconversation.com/the-remarkable-story-behind-david-bowies-most-iconic-feature-52920" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">David Bowie just got punched in the face.</a></li><li>Naima's newest release is&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3jBrXgc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Back in the Texan's Bed.</a></li><li>Movies we mentioned:&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2MJqV5M" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">GI Jane</a>, where Demi Moore becomes the first female Navy SEAL.&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2Z1dDE7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mystic Pizza</a>, which is not only about dumping fish into a convertible.&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3cTGlyV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Four Weddings and Funeral</a>, which has a woman everyone calls Duckface,&nbsp;<a href="https://film.avclub.com/romance-is-the-weakest-aspect-of-one-of-the-most-celebr-1834507059" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">which is not great</a>!</li><li>Music:&nbsp;<a href="https://song.link/s/5Cjjxm0KEh287xzr2xCpKL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Youngblood by Jem and The Holograms</a></li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/2/9/s0325-the-blackout-billionaires-by-naima-simone </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are talking about Naima Simone this week — and honestly, we could have picked any of Naima’s series to read because she’s just. that. good. We chose the whole series so we could talk more about the complexities of category romances, about wild plots, about alpha heroes, and about how Sarah is absolute trash for a rich hero and the working class girl on the other side of the tracks. Don’t @ her. </p><p>Next week, we’re back with an interstitial, and in two weeks, we’ve got Kate Clayborn joining us to talk about her upcoming book, Love at First! After that, we’re back to read alongs, but we’ll announce our next read on next week’s episode<em>…</em>see you then. </p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>We had such a great time on&nbsp;<a href="https://song.link/s/5Cjjxm0KEh287xzr2xCpKL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Derek Craven Day</a>. Check out our dedicated&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/derek-craven-day" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Derek Craven Day page</a>. On Derek Craven Day,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/culture/story/read-excerpt-lisa-kleypas-devils-daughter-75564610" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lisa revealed the cover</a>&nbsp;of her upcoming release,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3tKsMaU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Devil in Disguise,</a>&nbsp;which comes out summer 2021.&nbsp;</li><li>The article in the New York Times about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/02/04/parenting/covid-pandemic-mothers-primal-scream.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">three mothers during the Pandemic</a>&nbsp;was a hard, hard read.&nbsp;</li><li>We are all&nbsp;<a href="https://www.discovermagazine.com/mind/how-the-coronavirus-pandemic-is-warping-our-sense-of-time" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">experiencing the strange time warp of the pandemic</a>, but&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/masiragz/status/1356368901622231041?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">some of us even lost a hot year</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Maybe you would like to watch the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/jem-and-the-holograms-2015" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jem and Holograms movie</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Here are some fancy places:&nbsp;<a href="https://pabook.libraries.psu.edu/literary-cultural-heritage-map-pa/feature-articles/philadelphias-main-line-its-not-just-place-its" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Main Line,</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.choosechicago.com/neighborhoods/gold-coast/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Gold Coast,</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.pbs.org/independentlens/films/park-avenue/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Park Avenue,</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/scarsdale-new-york-east-coast-richest-town-photo-tour-2019-3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scarsdale</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/baldwin/2017/03/16/illinois-millionaire-hangouts-just-how-much-trump-will-cut-rich-residents-taxes/?sh=4681c65950cf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lake Forest</a>&nbsp;is fancy, but it was also&nbsp;<a href="https://themillions.com/2016/11/something-sinister-north-shore.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">an actual sundown town</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://sundown.tougaloo.edu/sundowntowns.php" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">so yikes to that</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Here’s&nbsp;<a href="http://www.loveinpanels.com/prose/newbies-guide-to-category-romance#:~:text=What%20is%20category%20romance%3F,in%20each%20line%20every%20month." rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a quick primer about category romance</a>&nbsp;from&nbsp;<a href="http://www.loveinpanels.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love in Panels</a>. Right now in February of 2021, Harlequin&nbsp;<a href="https://www.writeforharlequin.com/about/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">publishes 66 titles every month</a>&nbsp;in&nbsp;<a href="https://www.harlequin.com/shop/pages/series-romance.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">12 different series</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>We’ve had two previous episodes that were specifically about category romance: a fun one with&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/1/27/s0221-old-school-category-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bananas old school categories</a>, and another with&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/7/6/s0245-vivian-stephens-acquisitions-with-librarian-steve-ammidown" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Steve Ammidown about how Vivian Stephens invented the American category</a>. Check out&nbsp;<a href="https://romancehistory.wordpress.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Steve’s new blog about the history of romance.</a></li><li>Pre-pandemic,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/news-and-features/articles/making-harlequin-romance-cover/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen interviewed Tony Horvath from Harlequin about Harlequin’s branding and cover art</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Light a candle for&nbsp;<a href="https://www.harlequin.com/shop/brand/harlequin-blaze.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Harlequin Blaze.</a></li><li>T<a href="https://www.npr.org/2011/01/17/132942244/ikes-warning-of-military-expansion-50-years-later" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">he Military Industrial Complex</a>&nbsp;is a lot to unpack, but&nbsp;<a href="https://www.liveabout.com/top-docs-about-military-industrial-complex-4044845" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">maybe you have the time.</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1357065894934020102?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen is not the president and CEO</a>&nbsp;of&nbsp;<a href="https://glcsinc.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Great Lakes Cold Storage</a>, but they are hiring.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heterochromia_iridum" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heterochromia</a>&nbsp;is a thing, but&nbsp;<a href="https://theconversation.com/the-remarkable-story-behind-david-bowies-most-iconic-feature-52920" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">David Bowie just got punched in the face.</a></li><li>Naima's newest release is&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3jBrXgc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Back in the Texan's Bed.</a></li><li>Movies we mentioned:&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2MJqV5M" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">GI Jane</a>, where Demi Moore becomes the first female Navy SEAL.&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2Z1dDE7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mystic Pizza</a>, which is not only about dumping fish into a convertible.&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3cTGlyV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Four Weddings and Funeral</a>, which has a woman everyone calls Duckface,&nbsp;<a href="https://film.avclub.com/romance-is-the-weakest-aspect-of-one-of-the-most-celebr-1834507059" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">which is not great</a>!</li><li>Music:&nbsp;<a href="https://song.link/s/5Cjjxm0KEh287xzr2xCpKL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Youngblood by Jem and The Holograms</a></li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/2/9/s0325-the-blackout-billionaires-by-naima-simone </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/2/9/s0325-the-blackout-billionaires-by-naima-simone]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:6022b61667aaf537e6eb72c8</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2021 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/fe0a8ff4-adc6-4e2c-ace8-e99d7381379d/fated-mates-naima-simone-final-reva.mp3" length="86785263" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:25:15</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>31</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>31</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We are talking about Naima Simone this week — and honestly, we could have picked any of Naima’s series to read because she’s just. that. good. We chose the whole series so we could talk more about the complexities of category romances, about wild plots, about alpha heroes, and about how Sarah is absolute trash for a rich hero and the working class girl on the other side of the tracks. Don’t @ her.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-fe0a8ff4-adc6-4e2c-ace8-e99d7381379d.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S03.24: It&apos;s Derek Craven Day and We&apos;re Going Through Some Things</title><itunes:title>It&apos;s Derek Craven Day and We&apos;re Going Through Some Things</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Happy Derek Craven Day! </p><p>We’re wearing our <a href="https://www.teepublic.com/t-shirt/7834770-derek-craven-would-never" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">t-shirts</a> and <a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/derek-craven" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">buttons</a>, and spending a whole lot of time talking about what Derek Craven would and wouldn’t do with one of our very favorites — Kate Clayborn. Thanks to everyone who played our silly Derek Craven games this year — don’t forget to visit our Derek Craven Day page for charts, graphs and hilarious memes made from your submissions! Also, if you haven’t read <em>Dreaming of You</em>, now’s your chance to get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/2mYAksR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a special Derek Craven Day price</a> — $2.99! </p><p>We love you, and we’re thrilled we can celebrate this, the best of all holidays, with you. </p><p>Next week, we’re back to our regularly scheduled programming with Naima Simone’s Blackout Billionaires series (With a little Derek Craven Day excitement in there, too!) In order, the books are: <em>The Billionaire's Bargain, Black Tie Billionaire, </em>and <em>Blame it on the Billionaire. </em>Find them at <a href="https://amzn.to/2MXHIBL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/2MXHIBL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/search?fcsearchfield=Series&amp;query=Blackout%20Billionaires&amp;seriesId=27741c21-c0fa-5d1f-ab69-c8b982f88b53" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-billionaires-bargain/id1446004609?ct=books_the_billionaire%27s_bargain&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_toolbox&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>.</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><ul><li>Here's&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1092522175184232453?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the history of Derek Craven Day in tweets</a>, but also our mantra: there are 2 kinds of Lisa Kleypas readers.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1354858965725835268?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen was shitposting</a>&nbsp;about Kleypas heroes.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://maryjanewells.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mary Jane Wells</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.audiofilemagazine.com/narrators/rosalyn-landor/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rosalyn Landor</a>&nbsp;are great audiobook narrators.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2NZSWWN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">It’s not Talk Talk</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://slate.com/technology/2018/09/tiktok-app-musically-guide.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">it’s TikTok</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.onlinefabricstore.net/makersmill/when-someone-uses-your-fabric-shears-on-paper/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">All About fabric and paper scissors</a>.</li><li>No one should test the patience of Nora Roberts,<a href="https://www.today.com/popculture/nora-roberts-criticism-over-alyssa-milano-casting-netflix-movie-t207214" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">&nbsp;part 231.</a></li><li>Kate has strong feelings about&nbsp;<a href="https://frolic.media/passing-the-smell-test-in-romance-what-it-really-means-to-have-your-nose-in-a-book/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Irish Spring.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/17/smarter-living/crowdwise-reply-all-embarrassment-email-etiquette.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Don’t ever reply all</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>In case you need an explainer of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vox.com/the-goods/22249458/gamestop-stock-wallstreetbets-reddit-citron" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">what happened with Reddit and the stock market</a>&nbsp;last week. We think Derek Craven would enjoy this story.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.fatherly.com/health-science/car-backup-camera-law-mandatory/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Why backup cameras were invented</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>They say you can't buy your way onto the Bestseller lists, but&nbsp;<a href="https://bookriot.com/buying-books-onto-the-bestseller-list/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">it's been done.</a></li><li>Kate's question&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/kateclayborn/status/1189876474192580608?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">about romance heroes and Halloween</a>.</li><li>Lisa Kleypas revealed the cover for her new book, <em>Devil In Disguise</em>, today. <a href="https://amzn.to/2MSpSjt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Take a look!</a></li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy Derek Craven Day! </p><p>We’re wearing our <a href="https://www.teepublic.com/t-shirt/7834770-derek-craven-would-never" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">t-shirts</a> and <a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/derek-craven" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">buttons</a>, and spending a whole lot of time talking about what Derek Craven would and wouldn’t do with one of our very favorites — Kate Clayborn. Thanks to everyone who played our silly Derek Craven games this year — don’t forget to visit our Derek Craven Day page for charts, graphs and hilarious memes made from your submissions! Also, if you haven’t read <em>Dreaming of You</em>, now’s your chance to get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/2mYAksR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a special Derek Craven Day price</a> — $2.99! </p><p>We love you, and we’re thrilled we can celebrate this, the best of all holidays, with you. </p><p>Next week, we’re back to our regularly scheduled programming with Naima Simone’s Blackout Billionaires series (With a little Derek Craven Day excitement in there, too!) In order, the books are: <em>The Billionaire's Bargain, Black Tie Billionaire, </em>and <em>Blame it on the Billionaire. </em>Find them at <a href="https://amzn.to/2MXHIBL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/2MXHIBL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/search?fcsearchfield=Series&amp;query=Blackout%20Billionaires&amp;seriesId=27741c21-c0fa-5d1f-ab69-c8b982f88b53" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-billionaires-bargain/id1446004609?ct=books_the_billionaire%27s_bargain&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_toolbox&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>.</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><ul><li>Here's&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1092522175184232453?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the history of Derek Craven Day in tweets</a>, but also our mantra: there are 2 kinds of Lisa Kleypas readers.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1354858965725835268?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen was shitposting</a>&nbsp;about Kleypas heroes.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://maryjanewells.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mary Jane Wells</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.audiofilemagazine.com/narrators/rosalyn-landor/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rosalyn Landor</a>&nbsp;are great audiobook narrators.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2NZSWWN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">It’s not Talk Talk</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://slate.com/technology/2018/09/tiktok-app-musically-guide.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">it’s TikTok</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.onlinefabricstore.net/makersmill/when-someone-uses-your-fabric-shears-on-paper/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">All About fabric and paper scissors</a>.</li><li>No one should test the patience of Nora Roberts,<a href="https://www.today.com/popculture/nora-roberts-criticism-over-alyssa-milano-casting-netflix-movie-t207214" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">&nbsp;part 231.</a></li><li>Kate has strong feelings about&nbsp;<a href="https://frolic.media/passing-the-smell-test-in-romance-what-it-really-means-to-have-your-nose-in-a-book/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Irish Spring.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/17/smarter-living/crowdwise-reply-all-embarrassment-email-etiquette.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Don’t ever reply all</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>In case you need an explainer of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vox.com/the-goods/22249458/gamestop-stock-wallstreetbets-reddit-citron" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">what happened with Reddit and the stock market</a>&nbsp;last week. We think Derek Craven would enjoy this story.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.fatherly.com/health-science/car-backup-camera-law-mandatory/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Why backup cameras were invented</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>They say you can't buy your way onto the Bestseller lists, but&nbsp;<a href="https://bookriot.com/buying-books-onto-the-bestseller-list/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">it's been done.</a></li><li>Kate's question&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/kateclayborn/status/1189876474192580608?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">about romance heroes and Halloween</a>.</li><li>Lisa Kleypas revealed the cover for her new book, <em>Devil In Disguise</em>, today. <a href="https://amzn.to/2MSpSjt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Take a look!</a></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/1/31/s0324-derek-craven-day-reveals-that-were-going-through-some-things]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:601706db3bc1b048412b3135</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2021 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/fb2b5f66-9fd5-450e-9833-44722e146fb5/derek-craven-day-final-reva.mp3" length="76981511" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:16:12</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>30</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>30</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Happy Derek Craven Day! 

We’re wearing our t-shirts and buttons, and spending a whole lot of time talking about what Derek Craven would and wouldn’t do with one of our very favorites — Kate Clayborn. Thanks to everyone who played our silly Derek Craven games this year — don’t forget to visit our Derek Craven Day page for charts, graphs and hilarious memes made from your submissions! Also, if you haven’t read Dreaming of You, now’s your chance to get it at a special Derek Craven Day price — $2.99! 

We love you, and we’re thrilled we can celebrate this, the best of all holidays, with you. 

ccfyd5ns</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-fb2b5f66-9fd5-450e-9833-44722e146fb5.json" type="application/json+chapters"/><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="video/youtube" title="S03.24: It&apos;s Derek Craven Day and We&apos;re Going Through Some Things"><podcast:source uri="https://youtu.be/hKSqqJ59DpY"/></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>Bonus: Rerelease of Dreaming of You by Lisa Kleypas (2019)</title><itunes:title>Bonus: Rerelease of Dreaming of You by Lisa Kleypas (2019)</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This week, we’re releasing a new episode on Thursday with guest Kate Clayborn in honor of Derek Craven day, so today we’re rereleasing our Dreaming of You episode from Season 2 so that people can be all caught up before our <em>extremely niche</em> episode for the holiday itself! </p><p>For full show notes, see: </p><p><a href="http://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/9/24/s021-lisa-kleypas-does-spectacles-better-than-f-scott-fitzgerald-dreaming-of-you" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">S02.3: Lisa Kleypas Does Spectacles Better than F. Scott Fitzgerald: Dreaming of You</a></p><p>Next week, we’re back to our regularly scheduled programming with Naima Simone’s Blackout Billionaires series (With a little Derek Craven Day excitement in there, too!) In order, the books are: <em>The Billionaire's Bargain, Black Tie Billionaire, </em>and <em>Blame it on the Billionaire. </em>Find them at <a href="https://amzn.to/2MXHIBL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/2MXHIBL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/search?fcsearchfield=Series&amp;query=Blackout%20Billionaires&amp;seriesId=27741c21-c0fa-5d1f-ab69-c8b982f88b53" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-billionaires-bargain/id1446004609?ct=books_the_billionaire%27s_bargain&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_toolbox&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, we’re releasing a new episode on Thursday with guest Kate Clayborn in honor of Derek Craven day, so today we’re rereleasing our Dreaming of You episode from Season 2 so that people can be all caught up before our <em>extremely niche</em> episode for the holiday itself! </p><p>For full show notes, see: </p><p><a href="http://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/9/24/s021-lisa-kleypas-does-spectacles-better-than-f-scott-fitzgerald-dreaming-of-you" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">S02.3: Lisa Kleypas Does Spectacles Better than F. Scott Fitzgerald: Dreaming of You</a></p><p>Next week, we’re back to our regularly scheduled programming with Naima Simone’s Blackout Billionaires series (With a little Derek Craven Day excitement in there, too!) In order, the books are: <em>The Billionaire's Bargain, Black Tie Billionaire, </em>and <em>Blame it on the Billionaire. </em>Find them at <a href="https://amzn.to/2MXHIBL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/2MXHIBL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/search?fcsearchfield=Series&amp;query=Blackout%20Billionaires&amp;seriesId=27741c21-c0fa-5d1f-ab69-c8b982f88b53" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-billionaires-bargain/id1446004609?ct=books_the_billionaire%27s_bargain&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_toolbox&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/2/2/bonus-dreaming-of-you-by-lisa-kleypas-2019]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">03caeabd-7e60-43e2-abca-677f656acfdd</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2021 16:03:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/b058deb6-060a-465f-8afa-1c518b98226b/fated-mates-derek-craven-day-final-rerun.mp3" length="79594263" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:22:23</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>29</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>29</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season></item><item><title>Fated Tropes AMA!</title><itunes:title>Fated Tropes AMA!</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Back in July we had a very fun crossover episode with Erin and Clayton of Learning the Tropes. It was a delight and you should absolutely listen to it. During the event, we received so many questions from listeners that we didn’t have enough time to answer them all…so here we are, answering them! We talk about the kinds of romances we love, Normal People, morality chain and villains turned heroes, COVID and Romance Novels, Ted Lasso, and romance main character names. </p><p>And, of course, we talk about our mutual adoration for Lisa Kleypas, which is extremely timely, as next week, on February 4th, we will be celebrating Derek Craven Day 2021! So look for a very special episode on Thursday instead of Wednesday next week…and if you want to be a part of it, visit fatedmates.net and take our “Would Derek Craven?” poll (questions change every day until the 4th!).  </p><p>After that, we’re back to our regularly scheduled programming with Naima Simone’s Blackout Billionaires series (With a little Derek Craven Day excitement in there, too!) In order, the books are: The Billionaire's Bargain, Black Tie Billionaire, and Blame it on the Billionaire. Find them at Amazon, Barnes &amp; Noble, Kobo, or Apple Books.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Sarah and Jen both adore&nbsp;<a href="https://blackwing602.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blackwing Pencils</a>, but Sarah has really achieved new heights of nerd with her&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2M0Q9fA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Carl CC-2000 Custom hand crank pencil sharpener</a>.</li><li>Tessa Bailey is&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/2/24/s0225-asking-for-trouble" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a Fated Mates favorite</a>, and has a new, very charming book out this week called&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3cda8lR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Sweetest Fix</em></a>. You should read it.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/1/26/s0324-fated-tropes-ama </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back in July we had a very fun crossover episode with Erin and Clayton of Learning the Tropes. It was a delight and you should absolutely listen to it. During the event, we received so many questions from listeners that we didn’t have enough time to answer them all…so here we are, answering them! We talk about the kinds of romances we love, Normal People, morality chain and villains turned heroes, COVID and Romance Novels, Ted Lasso, and romance main character names. </p><p>And, of course, we talk about our mutual adoration for Lisa Kleypas, which is extremely timely, as next week, on February 4th, we will be celebrating Derek Craven Day 2021! So look for a very special episode on Thursday instead of Wednesday next week…and if you want to be a part of it, visit fatedmates.net and take our “Would Derek Craven?” poll (questions change every day until the 4th!).  </p><p>After that, we’re back to our regularly scheduled programming with Naima Simone’s Blackout Billionaires series (With a little Derek Craven Day excitement in there, too!) In order, the books are: The Billionaire's Bargain, Black Tie Billionaire, and Blame it on the Billionaire. Find them at Amazon, Barnes &amp; Noble, Kobo, or Apple Books.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Sarah and Jen both adore&nbsp;<a href="https://blackwing602.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blackwing Pencils</a>, but Sarah has really achieved new heights of nerd with her&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2M0Q9fA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Carl CC-2000 Custom hand crank pencil sharpener</a>.</li><li>Tessa Bailey is&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/2/24/s0225-asking-for-trouble" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a Fated Mates favorite</a>, and has a new, very charming book out this week called&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3cda8lR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Sweetest Fix</em></a>. You should read it.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/1/26/s0324-fated-tropes-ama </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/1/26/s0324-fated-tropes-ama]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:6010d0f6027c241063e25d5a</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2021 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/5cf112ed-f44b-46a2-a51c-c01822f4d59a/fated-tropes-2021-final-revb1.mp3" length="69957606" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:12:32</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>28</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>28</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Back in July we had a very fun crossover episode with Erin and Clayton of Learning the Tropes. It was a delight and you should absolutely listen to it. During the event, we received so many questions from listeners that we didn’t have enough time to answer them all…so here we are, answering them! We talk about the kinds of romances we love, Normal People, morality chain and villains turned heroes, COVID and Romance Novels, Ted Lasso, and romance main character names.</itunes:summary></item><item><title>S03.23: Curvy Heroines Redux</title><itunes:title>Curvy Heroines Redux</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Nearly two years since our first Curvy Heroines interstitial, which was short and sweet, we’re back with another that is longer and more meandering, but absolutely chock full of recs! We love a curvy heroine, and so do you all, apparently, as our original Curvy Interstitial is our most popular episode of all time! </p><p>Next week, we’ve got a special crossover episode with Erin and Clayton from Learning the Tropes, and the week after, we’re back to the deep dives with Naima Simone’s Blackout Billionaires series (With a little Derek Craven Day excitement in there, too!) In order, the books are: The Billionaire's Bargain<em>, </em>Black Tie Billionaire<em>, </em>and Blame It on the Billionaire<em>. </em>Find them at <a href="https://amzn.to/2MXHIBL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/2MXHIBL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/search?fcsearchfield=Series&amp;query=Blackout%20Billionaires&amp;seriesId=27741c21-c0fa-5d1f-ab69-c8b982f88b53" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-billionaires-bargain/id1446004609?ct=books_the_billionaire%27s_bargain&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_toolbox&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>This piece in Book Riot by&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/BellCV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Carole Bell</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://bookriot.com/fat-representation-in-romance/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">argues that fat representation is different than fat acceptance</a>, which is something we grapple with as we’re talking. She also wrote&nbsp;<a href="https://bookriot.com/fat-positive-romance-books/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this list of romances with fat representation.</a></li><li>If you haven’t read books by&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/Charlotte_Stein" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Charlotte Stein</a>, you should. Which ones? ALL OF THEM.&nbsp;<a href="https://ew.com/tv/2019/09/04/fat-monica-friends-25-years-later/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fat Monica</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://screenrant.com/friends-show-monica-fat-shaming-problem-bad-reason/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">if you don’t know</a>, is a reference to the TV show Friends.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://oliviadade.com/2020/03/24/i-made-videos-and-not-the-type-my-mom-may-once-have-feared/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Watch Olivia Dade talk</a>&nbsp;about where we are now with fat representation in romance.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2XUCsRx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cult of Glory</a>, a 2020 book about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.texasmonthly.com/the-culture/secret-history-texas-rangers/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the true history of the Texas Rangers</a>&nbsp;paints a grim picture of the storied law enforcement agents.&nbsp;</li><li>In case you’re interested, last week Jen was googling “anal hook” and this week she landed on a bunch of Christian websites when she googled&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_Magi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Magi</a>, so she got freaked out and just used a wikipedia link. It's fine. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯</li><li>Thea de Salle is one of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.hillarymonahan.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">author Hillary Monahan's</a>&nbsp;pseudonyms. Back in the day,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2017/08/catholicism-in-romance-lady-of-royale.html#more" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen wrote about Catholicism in romance based on a later book in the series, The Lady of Royale Street.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.vogue.com.au/celebrity/news/the-real-neverbeforeheard-story-of-how-matt-and-lucy-damon-met/news-story/823ebcc12e68ecc1f6f836db633599e6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Luciana Barroso is married to Matt Damon</a>, and she’s a regular person.</li><li>In Get a Life, Chloe Brown, the heroine suffers from&nbsp;<a href="https://www.webmd.com/fibromyalgia/default.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fibromyalgia.</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://themighty.com/2019/03/get-a-life-chloe-brown-talia-hibbert-novel-chronic-pain/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">so does the author, Talia Hibbert.</a></li><li>We did&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/9/28/s0308-serving-pleasure-by-alisha-rai" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a whole episode on Alisha Rai’s Serving Pleasure</a>&nbsp;in season two.&nbsp;</li><li>Jen recently read&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/series/162445-the-ravenels" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Ravenels series by Lisa Kleypas.</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1345549343609278464?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">She’s obsessed with Rhys Winterborne</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1349905058012536833?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">West Ravenel</a>&nbsp;is pretty great, too. Don’t worry, Derek Craven is still her favorite, and if you haven’t&nbsp;<a href="https://www.teepublic.com/t-shirt/7834770-derek-craven-would-never" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ordered your</a><a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/derek-craven" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">merch</a>&nbsp;for our upcoming Derek Craven holiday, what are you waiting for?</li><li><a href="https://bridgertonobservatory.com/2020/12/10/penelope-featherington-bridgerton-characters/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">On the show Bridgerton, Penelope Featherington is a curvy girl</a>; however,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3qDmxnc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">in the books,</a>&nbsp;she loses weight in the 10 years between when she comes out and when she finally gets her HEA with Colin.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://en.vogue.me/culture/six-facts-about-iman-abdulmajid/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Iman</a>&nbsp;is one of the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vogue.com/article/iman-talks-david-bowie-vogue-september-issue-2017" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">most famously beautiful supermodels&nbsp;</a>in the world, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.harpersbazaar.com/uk/fashion/fashion-news/a35118872/iman-interview/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">she married David Bowie in 1992</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/7FBeQU9Cvyc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“That’s what he said”</a>&nbsp;is&nbsp;<a href="https://www.dictionary.com/e/slang/thats-what-she-said/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a long running joke</a>&nbsp;from the sitcom The Office.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.newyorker.com/culture/on-television/the-queens-gambit-is-the-most-satisfying-show-on-television" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Queen’s Gambit</a>&nbsp;is a Netflix show about chess, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/south-korea-crash-landing-on-you-defectors-netflix/2020/04/17/d78c761c-7994-11ea-a311-adb1344719a9_story.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Crash Landing on You</a>&nbsp;is a K-Drama about a woman who accidentally paraglides into the DMZ in a tornado.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/1/18/s0323-curvy-heroines-redux </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nearly two years since our first Curvy Heroines interstitial, which was short and sweet, we’re back with another that is longer and more meandering, but absolutely chock full of recs! We love a curvy heroine, and so do you all, apparently, as our original Curvy Interstitial is our most popular episode of all time! </p><p>Next week, we’ve got a special crossover episode with Erin and Clayton from Learning the Tropes, and the week after, we’re back to the deep dives with Naima Simone’s Blackout Billionaires series (With a little Derek Craven Day excitement in there, too!) In order, the books are: The Billionaire's Bargain<em>, </em>Black Tie Billionaire<em>, </em>and Blame It on the Billionaire<em>. </em>Find them at <a href="https://amzn.to/2MXHIBL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/2MXHIBL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/search?fcsearchfield=Series&amp;query=Blackout%20Billionaires&amp;seriesId=27741c21-c0fa-5d1f-ab69-c8b982f88b53" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-billionaires-bargain/id1446004609?ct=books_the_billionaire%27s_bargain&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_toolbox&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>This piece in Book Riot by&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/BellCV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Carole Bell</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://bookriot.com/fat-representation-in-romance/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">argues that fat representation is different than fat acceptance</a>, which is something we grapple with as we’re talking. She also wrote&nbsp;<a href="https://bookriot.com/fat-positive-romance-books/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this list of romances with fat representation.</a></li><li>If you haven’t read books by&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/Charlotte_Stein" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Charlotte Stein</a>, you should. Which ones? ALL OF THEM.&nbsp;<a href="https://ew.com/tv/2019/09/04/fat-monica-friends-25-years-later/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fat Monica</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://screenrant.com/friends-show-monica-fat-shaming-problem-bad-reason/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">if you don’t know</a>, is a reference to the TV show Friends.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://oliviadade.com/2020/03/24/i-made-videos-and-not-the-type-my-mom-may-once-have-feared/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Watch Olivia Dade talk</a>&nbsp;about where we are now with fat representation in romance.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2XUCsRx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cult of Glory</a>, a 2020 book about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.texasmonthly.com/the-culture/secret-history-texas-rangers/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the true history of the Texas Rangers</a>&nbsp;paints a grim picture of the storied law enforcement agents.&nbsp;</li><li>In case you’re interested, last week Jen was googling “anal hook” and this week she landed on a bunch of Christian websites when she googled&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_Magi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Magi</a>, so she got freaked out and just used a wikipedia link. It's fine. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯</li><li>Thea de Salle is one of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.hillarymonahan.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">author Hillary Monahan's</a>&nbsp;pseudonyms. Back in the day,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2017/08/catholicism-in-romance-lady-of-royale.html#more" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen wrote about Catholicism in romance based on a later book in the series, The Lady of Royale Street.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.vogue.com.au/celebrity/news/the-real-neverbeforeheard-story-of-how-matt-and-lucy-damon-met/news-story/823ebcc12e68ecc1f6f836db633599e6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Luciana Barroso is married to Matt Damon</a>, and she’s a regular person.</li><li>In Get a Life, Chloe Brown, the heroine suffers from&nbsp;<a href="https://www.webmd.com/fibromyalgia/default.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fibromyalgia.</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://themighty.com/2019/03/get-a-life-chloe-brown-talia-hibbert-novel-chronic-pain/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">so does the author, Talia Hibbert.</a></li><li>We did&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/9/28/s0308-serving-pleasure-by-alisha-rai" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a whole episode on Alisha Rai’s Serving Pleasure</a>&nbsp;in season two.&nbsp;</li><li>Jen recently read&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/series/162445-the-ravenels" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Ravenels series by Lisa Kleypas.</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1345549343609278464?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">She’s obsessed with Rhys Winterborne</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1349905058012536833?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">West Ravenel</a>&nbsp;is pretty great, too. Don’t worry, Derek Craven is still her favorite, and if you haven’t&nbsp;<a href="https://www.teepublic.com/t-shirt/7834770-derek-craven-would-never" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ordered your</a><a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/derek-craven" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">merch</a>&nbsp;for our upcoming Derek Craven holiday, what are you waiting for?</li><li><a href="https://bridgertonobservatory.com/2020/12/10/penelope-featherington-bridgerton-characters/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">On the show Bridgerton, Penelope Featherington is a curvy girl</a>; however,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3qDmxnc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">in the books,</a>&nbsp;she loses weight in the 10 years between when she comes out and when she finally gets her HEA with Colin.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://en.vogue.me/culture/six-facts-about-iman-abdulmajid/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Iman</a>&nbsp;is one of the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vogue.com/article/iman-talks-david-bowie-vogue-september-issue-2017" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">most famously beautiful supermodels&nbsp;</a>in the world, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.harpersbazaar.com/uk/fashion/fashion-news/a35118872/iman-interview/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">she married David Bowie in 1992</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/7FBeQU9Cvyc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“That’s what he said”</a>&nbsp;is&nbsp;<a href="https://www.dictionary.com/e/slang/thats-what-she-said/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a long running joke</a>&nbsp;from the sitcom The Office.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.newyorker.com/culture/on-television/the-queens-gambit-is-the-most-satisfying-show-on-television" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Queen’s Gambit</a>&nbsp;is a Netflix show about chess, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/south-korea-crash-landing-on-you-defectors-netflix/2020/04/17/d78c761c-7994-11ea-a311-adb1344719a9_story.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Crash Landing on You</a>&nbsp;is a K-Drama about a woman who accidentally paraglides into the DMZ in a tornado.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/1/18/s0323-curvy-heroines-redux </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/1/18/s0323-curvy-heroines-redux]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:60062c6248a9597086a1fdbf</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2021 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/52b815f3-eae2-4874-b5f6-9276dd831cf9/fated-mates-curvier-final-revab.mp3" length="94912080" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:31:44</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>27</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>27</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Nearly two years since our first Curvy Heroines interstitial, which was short and sweet, we’re back with another that is longer and more meandering, but absolutely chock full of recs! We love a curvy heroine, and so do you all, apparently, as our original Curvy Interstitial is our most popular episode of all time!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-52b815f3-eae2-4874-b5f6-9276dd831cf9.json" type="application/json+chapters"/><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="video/youtube" title="S03.23: Curvy Heroines Redux"><podcast:source uri="https://youtu.be/XW5QwhEHtKo"/></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>S03.22: For Real by Alexis Hall: Jen had to Google Some Things</title><itunes:title>For Real by Alexis Hall: Jen had to Google Some Things</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It’s 2021, and we’re back on the reading train with one of Sarah’s favorite erotic romances ever, Alexis Hall’s For Real.  We dig into sex on the page, how sex and identity work together to make an erotic romance an erotic romance, power dynamics, and the difference between fear &amp; risk. Enjoy!</p><p>You still have time to buy the Fated Mates Best of 2020 Book Pack from our friends at <a href="https://www.oldtownbooks.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Old Town Books in Alexandria Virginia</a>, and get the seven traditionally published books on the list, a Fated Mates sticker and a candle from the bookstore! <a href="https://www.oldtownbooks.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Order here!</a></p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!&nbsp;</p><p>Next week, we’re returning to Curvy Girls for an interstitial, and then we’re headed on to Naima Simone’s Blackout Billionaires series! In order, the books are: The Billionaire's Bargain<em>, </em>Black Tie Billionaire<em>, </em>and Blame It on the Billionaire<em>. </em> Find them at <a href="https://amzn.to/2MXHIBL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/2MXHIBL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/search?fcsearchfield=Series&amp;query=Blackout%20Billionaires&amp;seriesId=27741c21-c0fa-5d1f-ab69-c8b982f88b53" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-billionaires-bargain/id1446004609?ct=books_the_billionaire%27s_bargain&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_toolbox&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>.</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/01/06/us/georgia-election-results" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">We won Georgia</a>, but then&nbsp;<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/interactive/2021/capitol-insurrection-visual-timeline/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">white supremacist terrorists attacked the Capitol</a>. If you want to&nbsp;<a href="https://www.commonsensemedia.org/blog/talking-to-kids-about-the-violence-at-the-us-capitol" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">talk to your kids</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.facinghistory.org/educator-resources/current-events/what-happened-during-insurrection-us-capitol-why" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here are some suggestions from Facing History and Ourselves</a>, this is a resource for teachers but I think any parent with tweens and teens will find it helpful. If you have little kids, Jen’s friend Elisa is a children’s librarian and recommend the books&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/35vRpxC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">When a Bully is President</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/39pV9lw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What We Believe: A Black Lives Matter Principles Activity Book.&nbsp;</a></li><li><a href="https://www.thoughtco.com/history-of-answering-machines-1991223" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Answering machines</a>&nbsp;don’t exist anymore. (Well, they probably do, but no one we know uses them.)&nbsp;</li><li>For Real won the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.rwa.org/Online/Awards/RITA/Past_RITA_Winners.aspx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2016 RITA for Best Erotic romance</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://quicunquevult.com/notes-and-corrections/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alexis Hall wrote a blog entry about it</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://blogs.mprnews.org/newscut/2016/03/the-difference-between-fear-and-risk/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fear vs. Risk,</a>&nbsp;the short version. Or maybe you want to read whole book about fear, called&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3nEeCnm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nerve by Eva Holland.</a>&nbsp;Jen knows Eva from another online space, but they've never met in person.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluebeard" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bluebeard</a>’s attic had&nbsp;<a href="https://www.advocate.com/love-and-sex/2016/3/22/39-sex-toys-every-gay-man-should-try#media-gallery-media-14" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">some things Jen had to google</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://las.depaul.edu/academics/english/faculty/Pages/eric-murphy-selinger.aspx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Eric Selinger</a>&nbsp;is&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JPRStudies" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a romance guy</a>, but also a poetry guy at DePaul. Jen took a workshop with Eric a million years ago (before she started doing romance stuff), and the guy who said “poetry is a laboratory for sentences” was&nbsp;<a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/baron-wormser" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">poet Baron Wormser</a>, author of the best book Jen’s ever read about teaching and learning poetry,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3nFMQqN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Surge of Language.&nbsp;</a></li><li>Jen was thinking about what happens when romance authors are forced to&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1344805611175870464?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">read the sex scenes instead of the feelings scenes</a>, like when&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bustle.com/p/stephen-colbert-read-stacey-abrams-romance-novel-to-her-youll-want-to-watch-17010715" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stacey Abrams on Stephen Colbert</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Sarah talked about chastity belts at the end, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vice.com/en/article/m7apnn/your-cock-is-mine-now-hacker-locks-internet-connected-chastity-cage-demands-ransom" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">we here at Fated Mates strongly advise against giving the internet the power over your chastity belts and cock cages.</a>&nbsp;SAFETY FIRST!&nbsp;</li><li>Derek Craven Day is coming, do you have you merch ready?&nbsp;<a href="https://www.teepublic.com/t-shirt/7834770-derek-craven-would-never" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">T-shirts</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/derek-craven" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">buttons</a>&nbsp;and listen to&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/9/24/s021-lisa-kleypas-does-spectacles-better-than-f-scott-fitzgerald-dreaming-of-you" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">our discussion</a>&nbsp;of Dreaming of You, of course.</li><li><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/1/12/s0322-for-real-by-alexis-hall </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s 2021, and we’re back on the reading train with one of Sarah’s favorite erotic romances ever, Alexis Hall’s For Real.  We dig into sex on the page, how sex and identity work together to make an erotic romance an erotic romance, power dynamics, and the difference between fear &amp; risk. Enjoy!</p><p>You still have time to buy the Fated Mates Best of 2020 Book Pack from our friends at <a href="https://www.oldtownbooks.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Old Town Books in Alexandria Virginia</a>, and get the seven traditionally published books on the list, a Fated Mates sticker and a candle from the bookstore! <a href="https://www.oldtownbooks.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Order here!</a></p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!&nbsp;</p><p>Next week, we’re returning to Curvy Girls for an interstitial, and then we’re headed on to Naima Simone’s Blackout Billionaires series! In order, the books are: The Billionaire's Bargain<em>, </em>Black Tie Billionaire<em>, </em>and Blame It on the Billionaire<em>. </em> Find them at <a href="https://amzn.to/2MXHIBL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/2MXHIBL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/search?fcsearchfield=Series&amp;query=Blackout%20Billionaires&amp;seriesId=27741c21-c0fa-5d1f-ab69-c8b982f88b53" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-billionaires-bargain/id1446004609?ct=books_the_billionaire%27s_bargain&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_toolbox&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>.</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/01/06/us/georgia-election-results" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">We won Georgia</a>, but then&nbsp;<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/interactive/2021/capitol-insurrection-visual-timeline/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">white supremacist terrorists attacked the Capitol</a>. If you want to&nbsp;<a href="https://www.commonsensemedia.org/blog/talking-to-kids-about-the-violence-at-the-us-capitol" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">talk to your kids</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.facinghistory.org/educator-resources/current-events/what-happened-during-insurrection-us-capitol-why" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here are some suggestions from Facing History and Ourselves</a>, this is a resource for teachers but I think any parent with tweens and teens will find it helpful. If you have little kids, Jen’s friend Elisa is a children’s librarian and recommend the books&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/35vRpxC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">When a Bully is President</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/39pV9lw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What We Believe: A Black Lives Matter Principles Activity Book.&nbsp;</a></li><li><a href="https://www.thoughtco.com/history-of-answering-machines-1991223" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Answering machines</a>&nbsp;don’t exist anymore. (Well, they probably do, but no one we know uses them.)&nbsp;</li><li>For Real won the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.rwa.org/Online/Awards/RITA/Past_RITA_Winners.aspx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2016 RITA for Best Erotic romance</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://quicunquevult.com/notes-and-corrections/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alexis Hall wrote a blog entry about it</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://blogs.mprnews.org/newscut/2016/03/the-difference-between-fear-and-risk/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fear vs. Risk,</a>&nbsp;the short version. Or maybe you want to read whole book about fear, called&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3nEeCnm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nerve by Eva Holland.</a>&nbsp;Jen knows Eva from another online space, but they've never met in person.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluebeard" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bluebeard</a>’s attic had&nbsp;<a href="https://www.advocate.com/love-and-sex/2016/3/22/39-sex-toys-every-gay-man-should-try#media-gallery-media-14" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">some things Jen had to google</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://las.depaul.edu/academics/english/faculty/Pages/eric-murphy-selinger.aspx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Eric Selinger</a>&nbsp;is&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JPRStudies" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a romance guy</a>, but also a poetry guy at DePaul. Jen took a workshop with Eric a million years ago (before she started doing romance stuff), and the guy who said “poetry is a laboratory for sentences” was&nbsp;<a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/baron-wormser" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">poet Baron Wormser</a>, author of the best book Jen’s ever read about teaching and learning poetry,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3nFMQqN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Surge of Language.&nbsp;</a></li><li>Jen was thinking about what happens when romance authors are forced to&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1344805611175870464?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">read the sex scenes instead of the feelings scenes</a>, like when&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bustle.com/p/stephen-colbert-read-stacey-abrams-romance-novel-to-her-youll-want-to-watch-17010715" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stacey Abrams on Stephen Colbert</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Sarah talked about chastity belts at the end, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vice.com/en/article/m7apnn/your-cock-is-mine-now-hacker-locks-internet-connected-chastity-cage-demands-ransom" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">we here at Fated Mates strongly advise against giving the internet the power over your chastity belts and cock cages.</a>&nbsp;SAFETY FIRST!&nbsp;</li><li>Derek Craven Day is coming, do you have you merch ready?&nbsp;<a href="https://www.teepublic.com/t-shirt/7834770-derek-craven-would-never" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">T-shirts</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/derek-craven" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">buttons</a>&nbsp;and listen to&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/9/24/s021-lisa-kleypas-does-spectacles-better-than-f-scott-fitzgerald-dreaming-of-you" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">our discussion</a>&nbsp;of Dreaming of You, of course.</li><li><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/1/12/s0322-for-real-by-alexis-hall </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/1/12/s0322-for-real-by-alexis-hall]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5ffdc6b0157052299992ead1</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2021 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/bdc199ba-f093-4de9-871f-5ab930b89708/fated-mates-alexis-hall-final-reva.mp3" length="62438924" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:01:25</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>26</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>26</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>It’s 2021, and we’re back on the reading train with one of Sarah’s favorite erotic romances ever, Alexis Hall’s For Real.  We dig into sex on the page, how sex and identity work together to make an erotic romance an erotic romance, power dynamics, and the difference between fear &amp; risk. Enjoy!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-bdc199ba-f093-4de9-871f-5ab930b89708.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S03.21: Prom Is Cancelled: A Chat with Sex Columnist Sophia Benoit</title><itunes:title>Prom Is Cancelled: A Chat with Sex Columnist Sophia Benoit</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This week, we’re thrilled to be joined by the fabulous Sophia Benoit, sex columnist for GQ magazine and romance novel lover! We talk about romance, about why it’s so hard to talk about sex in the world, about the books Sophia has written and is planning to write, and about Jimmy Butler. Because, obviously.</p><p>Happy New Year!  </p><p>Next week is our first read along of 2021, Alexis Hall’s <em>For Real</em>! Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/2L6m9he" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/for-real-alexis-hall/1121933440" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/for-real/id1364305995?ct=books_for_real&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_toolbox&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/for-real-6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome&nbsp;<a href="https://www.gq.com/story/wap-oral-sex" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">GQ sex columnist</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.shawtyfireburninonthedancefloor.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sophia Benoit</a>. She’s absolutely&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/1followernodad" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">great on twitter</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://1followernodad.substack.com/p/i-need-advice-on-dating-an-artist" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">writes an amazing advice column, which is available as a Substack</a>. Her book of essays,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3pNv0DB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Well, That Was Exhausting</a>&nbsp;will be out in the summer of 2021.</li><li>The Sex and the City reference, of course, it to&nbsp;<a href="https://screenrant.com/sex-the-city-things-about-carrie-bradshaws-freelance-career-that-make-no-sense/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Carrie Bradshaw’s job as a dating columnist</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/EricHaywood/status/935876674624815104?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Captain Sit on my Face.</a></li><li>America has&nbsp;<a href="https://nursing.usc.edu/blog/americas-sex-education/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a sex education problem</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.lollapalooza.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lollapalooza</a>&nbsp;is very fun and the music is great and&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1027333946344910850?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">every time she’s attended</a>, it has made Jen feel like she’s a million years old.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1027333946344910850?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tolstoy’s Anna Karenina has a famous first line</a>, but the rest of it is very long.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=HoCo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">HoCo</a>, FauxCo, and&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/q87sTz0WCqE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Prom is Cancelled</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>If you’re looking for paranormal,&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/the-books" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">all of season one is a read-along of the Immortals After Dark series by Kresley Cole.&nbsp;</a></li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/X0cBMzOZqN0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tom Selleck</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2018/09/06/burt-reynolds-let-us-observe-moment-silence-his-mustache/1214991002/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Burt Reynolds</a>&nbsp;mustaches of the 80s were quite a thing. And if you look at the&nbsp;<a href="https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTVlT6LQWgnO6b92q_q2w-54vT0NBb-BPXdJA&amp;usqp=CAU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">original covers</a>&nbsp;of&nbsp;<a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/images/uploads/Bound_By_Ecstacy.gif" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">romances from that time</a>, you'll see them in action.</li><li><a href="https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/31056/why-did-people-wear-powdered-wigs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wigs were big in the 1700s.</a></li><li>Reddit’s&nbsp;<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Am I the Asshole (AITA)</a>&nbsp;is&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theringer.com/2020/10/7/21503068/am-i-the-asshole-reddit-2020" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a cultural touchstone</a>&nbsp;for so many people.&nbsp;</li><li>We are adding Jimmy Butler to our list of favorite athletes, which started with&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/FatedMates/status/1307870611977441281?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jurgen Klopp</a>. Here is a bunch of Jimmy Butler information for you:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bulls/revisiting-bulls-jimmy-butler-trade-2017-who-won-did-anyone" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">about the trade from The Bulls</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.complex.com/sports/2017/10/jimmy-butler-drives-minivan-despite-making-20-million-dollars" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">about his minivan</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thecountrynote.com/in-the-news/nba-all-star-jimmy-butler-plays-favorite-country-songs-on-siriusxms-the-highway-channel/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">about his love of country music</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2020/8/17/21371898/jimmy-butler-coffee-nba-bubble" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">about his coffee company</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2020/1/4/21049465/jimmy-butler-miami-heat-teammate-tyler-herro-bam-adebayo-locker-room-cancer" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">about his teamwork</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/1followernodad/status/1312937894307192833?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">about his</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/1followernodad/status/1117161117199900672?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fashion sense</a>. The third member of the Fated Mates sports team is&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theringer.com/tv/2020/12/16/22176285/ted-lasso-defied-the-odds-and-wrangled-our-hearts" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ted Lasso.</a></li><li>Next week, we’ll be reading&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2KSFJOB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">For Real by Alexis Hall</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/1/4/s0321-sophia-benoit </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, we’re thrilled to be joined by the fabulous Sophia Benoit, sex columnist for GQ magazine and romance novel lover! We talk about romance, about why it’s so hard to talk about sex in the world, about the books Sophia has written and is planning to write, and about Jimmy Butler. Because, obviously.</p><p>Happy New Year!  </p><p>Next week is our first read along of 2021, Alexis Hall’s <em>For Real</em>! Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/2L6m9he" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/for-real-alexis-hall/1121933440" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/for-real/id1364305995?ct=books_for_real&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_toolbox&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/for-real-6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome&nbsp;<a href="https://www.gq.com/story/wap-oral-sex" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">GQ sex columnist</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.shawtyfireburninonthedancefloor.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sophia Benoit</a>. She’s absolutely&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/1followernodad" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">great on twitter</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://1followernodad.substack.com/p/i-need-advice-on-dating-an-artist" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">writes an amazing advice column, which is available as a Substack</a>. Her book of essays,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3pNv0DB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Well, That Was Exhausting</a>&nbsp;will be out in the summer of 2021.</li><li>The Sex and the City reference, of course, it to&nbsp;<a href="https://screenrant.com/sex-the-city-things-about-carrie-bradshaws-freelance-career-that-make-no-sense/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Carrie Bradshaw’s job as a dating columnist</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/EricHaywood/status/935876674624815104?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Captain Sit on my Face.</a></li><li>America has&nbsp;<a href="https://nursing.usc.edu/blog/americas-sex-education/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a sex education problem</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.lollapalooza.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lollapalooza</a>&nbsp;is very fun and the music is great and&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1027333946344910850?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">every time she’s attended</a>, it has made Jen feel like she’s a million years old.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1027333946344910850?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tolstoy’s Anna Karenina has a famous first line</a>, but the rest of it is very long.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=HoCo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">HoCo</a>, FauxCo, and&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/q87sTz0WCqE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Prom is Cancelled</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>If you’re looking for paranormal,&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/the-books" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">all of season one is a read-along of the Immortals After Dark series by Kresley Cole.&nbsp;</a></li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/X0cBMzOZqN0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tom Selleck</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2018/09/06/burt-reynolds-let-us-observe-moment-silence-his-mustache/1214991002/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Burt Reynolds</a>&nbsp;mustaches of the 80s were quite a thing. And if you look at the&nbsp;<a href="https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTVlT6LQWgnO6b92q_q2w-54vT0NBb-BPXdJA&amp;usqp=CAU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">original covers</a>&nbsp;of&nbsp;<a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/images/uploads/Bound_By_Ecstacy.gif" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">romances from that time</a>, you'll see them in action.</li><li><a href="https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/31056/why-did-people-wear-powdered-wigs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wigs were big in the 1700s.</a></li><li>Reddit’s&nbsp;<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Am I the Asshole (AITA)</a>&nbsp;is&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theringer.com/2020/10/7/21503068/am-i-the-asshole-reddit-2020" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a cultural touchstone</a>&nbsp;for so many people.&nbsp;</li><li>We are adding Jimmy Butler to our list of favorite athletes, which started with&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/FatedMates/status/1307870611977441281?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jurgen Klopp</a>. Here is a bunch of Jimmy Butler information for you:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bulls/revisiting-bulls-jimmy-butler-trade-2017-who-won-did-anyone" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">about the trade from The Bulls</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.complex.com/sports/2017/10/jimmy-butler-drives-minivan-despite-making-20-million-dollars" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">about his minivan</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thecountrynote.com/in-the-news/nba-all-star-jimmy-butler-plays-favorite-country-songs-on-siriusxms-the-highway-channel/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">about his love of country music</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2020/8/17/21371898/jimmy-butler-coffee-nba-bubble" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">about his coffee company</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2020/1/4/21049465/jimmy-butler-miami-heat-teammate-tyler-herro-bam-adebayo-locker-room-cancer" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">about his teamwork</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/1followernodad/status/1312937894307192833?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">about his</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/1followernodad/status/1117161117199900672?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fashion sense</a>. The third member of the Fated Mates sports team is&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theringer.com/tv/2020/12/16/22176285/ted-lasso-defied-the-odds-and-wrangled-our-hearts" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ted Lasso.</a></li><li>Next week, we’ll be reading&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2KSFJOB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">For Real by Alexis Hall</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/1/4/s0321-sophia-benoit </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2021/1/4/s0321-sophia-benoit]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5ff36b58b6dc0c1e611659a6</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/e33e57c0-84ef-4a4f-ad43-2ff81e499dff/rerun.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2021 04:59:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/2d9e5588-1c32-4184-a4d0-1394f323aeca/fated-mates-sophia-benoit-final-revd.mp3" length="89555745" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:27:28</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>25</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>25</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>This week, we’re thrilled to be joined by the fabulous Sophia Benoit, sex columnist for GQ magazine and romance novel lover! We talk about romance, about why it’s so hard to talk about sex in the world, about the books Sophia has written and is planning to write, and about Jimmy Butler. Because, obviously.

Happy New Year!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-2d9e5588-1c32-4184-a4d0-1394f323aeca.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>Jessa Kane New Year&apos;s Eve Extravaganza</title><itunes:title>Jessa Kane New Year&apos;s Eve Extravaganza</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>WELCOME 2021!</p><p>As is customary on Fated Mates, we’re releasing a special New Year’s Eve episode that requires headphones if you’re in mixed company! We brought some of our most favorite people together for a very special crossover episode of Fated Mates and <a href="https://instagram.com/authorandiej?igshid=14kqclas6p656" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Andie J. Christopher’s Instagram TV Juggernaut: Drunk Romance History</a>, during which we drink a delightful mix of alcohol and talk about a delightful mix of erotic romance by the queen of the quick and dirty novella—Jessa Kane.</p><p>We’re talking priests and daddy kink, mafia hitmen, billionaires, husky heroes, stepbrothers and what Joanna Shape refers to as the Kane-Trope-Wheel. Tracey Livesay has a mug with penises on it. Bring in 2021 right. (Also, if you, like Joanna and Jen have read all of the Jessa Kane’s, no worries! She released a new one today—<a href="https://amzn.to/38WdQNA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">BURLY</a>—just in time for this episode! Shero!)</p><p>Head over to <a href="https://instagram.com/authorandiej?igshid=14kqclas6p656" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Andie’s IGTV channel</a> for the video version.</p><p><strong>Notes</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>One more chance for phone-banking is <a href="https://indivisible.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJYuceCuqTIvHt1hR31_Xxi19Ew7Pyl0GqOM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Monday 1/4/2021 at 5pm central</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Listen to last year's <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/12/31/s0217-pegging-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">New Year's Eve epsiode on Pegging</a> with special guest, Sierra Simone!</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Have we mentioned <a href="https://www.instagram.com/authorandiej/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Drunk Romance History on Andie's Instagram</a>?</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>We are joined today by our friends: <a href="https://www.andiejchristopher.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Andie Christopher</a>, <a href="https://alexisdaria.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alexis Daria</a>, <a href="https://adrianaherreraromance.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adriana Herrera</a>, <a href="https://www.laquette.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LaQuette</a>, <a href="https://www.traceylivesay.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tracey Livesay</a>, <a href="https://www.nisha-sharma.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nisha Sharma</a>, and <a href="http://www.joannashupe.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joanna Shupe</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Get Tracey's penis mug <a href="https://www.lookhuman.com/design/79318-floral-penis-purple" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Normalize sex toys. Today's guests are big fans of LELO products and recommend: <a href="https://amzn.to/3rGeaZ7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Ora2</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/3rQMscv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Sona2</a>, and <a href="https://amzn.to/2X0W2Lq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Gigi2</a>.</li></ol><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/12/31/jessa-kane-new-years-eve-extravaganza </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WELCOME 2021!</p><p>As is customary on Fated Mates, we’re releasing a special New Year’s Eve episode that requires headphones if you’re in mixed company! We brought some of our most favorite people together for a very special crossover episode of Fated Mates and <a href="https://instagram.com/authorandiej?igshid=14kqclas6p656" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Andie J. Christopher’s Instagram TV Juggernaut: Drunk Romance History</a>, during which we drink a delightful mix of alcohol and talk about a delightful mix of erotic romance by the queen of the quick and dirty novella—Jessa Kane.</p><p>We’re talking priests and daddy kink, mafia hitmen, billionaires, husky heroes, stepbrothers and what Joanna Shape refers to as the Kane-Trope-Wheel. Tracey Livesay has a mug with penises on it. Bring in 2021 right. (Also, if you, like Joanna and Jen have read all of the Jessa Kane’s, no worries! She released a new one today—<a href="https://amzn.to/38WdQNA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">BURLY</a>—just in time for this episode! Shero!)</p><p>Head over to <a href="https://instagram.com/authorandiej?igshid=14kqclas6p656" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Andie’s IGTV channel</a> for the video version.</p><p><strong>Notes</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>One more chance for phone-banking is <a href="https://indivisible.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJYuceCuqTIvHt1hR31_Xxi19Ew7Pyl0GqOM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Monday 1/4/2021 at 5pm central</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Listen to last year's <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/12/31/s0217-pegging-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">New Year's Eve epsiode on Pegging</a> with special guest, Sierra Simone!</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Have we mentioned <a href="https://www.instagram.com/authorandiej/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Drunk Romance History on Andie's Instagram</a>?</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>We are joined today by our friends: <a href="https://www.andiejchristopher.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Andie Christopher</a>, <a href="https://alexisdaria.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alexis Daria</a>, <a href="https://adrianaherreraromance.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adriana Herrera</a>, <a href="https://www.laquette.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LaQuette</a>, <a href="https://www.traceylivesay.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tracey Livesay</a>, <a href="https://www.nisha-sharma.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nisha Sharma</a>, and <a href="http://www.joannashupe.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joanna Shupe</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Get Tracey's penis mug <a href="https://www.lookhuman.com/design/79318-floral-penis-purple" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Normalize sex toys. Today's guests are big fans of LELO products and recommend: <a href="https://amzn.to/3rGeaZ7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Ora2</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/3rQMscv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Sona2</a>, and <a href="https://amzn.to/2X0W2Lq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Gigi2</a>.</li></ol><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/12/31/jessa-kane-new-years-eve-extravaganza </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/12/31/jessa-kane-new-years-eve-extravaganza]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5fedddadf218a25ea6fc23ed</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2020 22:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/9abeebb7-8971-472d-bcb2-fdc98395c470/jessakane-final-revca.mp3" length="94972479" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:27:28</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>24</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>24</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>As is customary on Fated Mates, we’re releasing a special New Year’s Eve episode that requires headphones if you’re in mixed company! We brought some of our most favorite people together for a very special crossover episode of Fated Mates and Andie J. Christopher’s Instagram TV Juggernaut: Drunk Romance History, during which we drink a delightful mix of alcohol and talk about a delightful mix of erotic romance by the queen of the quick and dirty novella—Jessa Kane. 

We’re talking priests and daddy kink, mafia hitmen, billionaires, husky heroes, stepbrothers and what Joanna Shape refers to as the Kane-Trope-Wheel. Tracey Livesay has a mug with penises on it. Bring in 2021 right. (Also, if you, like Joanna and Jen have read all of the Jessa Kane’s, no worries! She released a new one today—BURLY—just in time for this episode! Shero!)</itunes:summary></item><item><title>Another AMA with Sarah and Jen</title><itunes:title>Another AMA with Sarah and Jen</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">It’s the Holidays and the end of 2020 and we don’t really know what’s happening, but Eric is keeping us honest with another AMA! This one was recorded during our Fated States postcard writing party for Jon Ossoff and Raphael Warnock — the Democratic candidates for the Senate Runoff in Georgia — answering reader questions that came in during the live recording! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We talk about pen names, working class heroes, whether or not you should DNF books, and Rasputin’s penis. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Come back tomorrow for a special treat, and get ready for our first read along of 2021, Alexis Hall’s <em>For Real</em>. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/2L6m9he">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/for-real-alexis-hall/1121933440">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/for-real/id1364305995?ct=books_for_real&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_toolbox&amp;ls=1">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/for-real-6">Kobo</a>.  </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">One more phone banking opportunity for the Georgia Senate runoff is coming up on January 4, 2021 from 5-7 central.&nbsp;<a href="https://indivisible.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJYuceCuqTIvHt1hR31_Xxi19Ew7Pyl0GqOM">Join us!</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">You should watch Drunk Romance History on&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/authorandiej/">Andie's Instagram</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you want more romance novels made into TV shows, you should watch&nbsp;<a href="https://deadline.com/2020/12/virgin-river-renewed-season-3-netflix-1234658746/">Virgin River</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.elle.com/culture/movies-tv/a35083612/bridgerton-season-2-news-release-date-cast-spoilers/">Bridgerton</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/28/arts/television/bridgerton-outlander-romance-novels.html">But everyone is watching Bridgerton, so that's great</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1150220499840098305?s=20">Jen thinks you should DNF</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We rattled off a bunch of historical romances with working heroes.&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3aUd3iK">Dreaming of You</a>, of course, and American-set historicals, like&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3pzkUWZ">Indigo</a>&nbsp;by Beverly Jenkins. In England,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2WTK7Pt">A Matter of Disagreement</a>&nbsp;by EE Ottoman,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3pDSTh3">The Lady's Guide to Mischief and Mayhem</a>&nbsp;by Manda Collins,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3pwD8bC">Thief of Shadows</a>&nbsp;by Elizabeth Hoyt,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3rAzXl0">The Lawrence Browne Affair</a>&nbsp;by Cat Sebastian,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2JsCdth">Honeytrap&nbsp;</a>by Glen Aster Gray. Almost every&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3mWrmWo">KJ Charles</a>book would qualify, as well as many by&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2Mko6Yf">Sophie Jordan</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/38HMudW">Anne Mallory</a>. Also, don't forget Sarah's&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3rCzHSw">Bareknuckle Bastards</a>&nbsp;series.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://amzn.to/3n0CIbE">Annika Martin</a>&nbsp;writes all the best bananas books.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Rachel Hawkins is writing contemporary adult witches under the name&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/ladyhawkins?lang=en">Erin Sterling</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Some historicals with characters from Imperial Russia? That's tough, but Sarah suggests the Stokehurst Duology from Lisa Kleypas, the first is&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2L2zjvZ">Midnight Angel.</a>&nbsp;And if you have kids interested in this time period, check out&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/34TQYgu">The Family Romonov by Candace Fleming</a>. There is nothing about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cultofweird.com/curiosities/rasputin-penis/">Rasputin's penis</a>&nbsp;in that book, be assured.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">It’s the Holidays and the end of 2020 and we don’t really know what’s happening, but Eric is keeping us honest with another AMA! This one was recorded during our Fated States postcard writing party for Jon Ossoff and Raphael Warnock — the Democratic candidates for the Senate Runoff in Georgia — answering reader questions that came in during the live recording! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We talk about pen names, working class heroes, whether or not you should DNF books, and Rasputin’s penis. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Come back tomorrow for a special treat, and get ready for our first read along of 2021, Alexis Hall’s <em>For Real</em>. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/2L6m9he">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/for-real-alexis-hall/1121933440">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/for-real/id1364305995?ct=books_for_real&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_toolbox&amp;ls=1">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/for-real-6">Kobo</a>.  </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">One more phone banking opportunity for the Georgia Senate runoff is coming up on January 4, 2021 from 5-7 central.&nbsp;<a href="https://indivisible.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJYuceCuqTIvHt1hR31_Xxi19Ew7Pyl0GqOM">Join us!</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">You should watch Drunk Romance History on&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/authorandiej/">Andie's Instagram</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">If you want more romance novels made into TV shows, you should watch&nbsp;<a href="https://deadline.com/2020/12/virgin-river-renewed-season-3-netflix-1234658746/">Virgin River</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.elle.com/culture/movies-tv/a35083612/bridgerton-season-2-news-release-date-cast-spoilers/">Bridgerton</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/28/arts/television/bridgerton-outlander-romance-novels.html">But everyone is watching Bridgerton, so that's great</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1150220499840098305?s=20">Jen thinks you should DNF</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We rattled off a bunch of historical romances with working heroes.&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3aUd3iK">Dreaming of You</a>, of course, and American-set historicals, like&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3pzkUWZ">Indigo</a>&nbsp;by Beverly Jenkins. In England,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2WTK7Pt">A Matter of Disagreement</a>&nbsp;by EE Ottoman,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3pDSTh3">The Lady's Guide to Mischief and Mayhem</a>&nbsp;by Manda Collins,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3pwD8bC">Thief of Shadows</a>&nbsp;by Elizabeth Hoyt,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3rAzXl0">The Lawrence Browne Affair</a>&nbsp;by Cat Sebastian,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2JsCdth">Honeytrap&nbsp;</a>by Glen Aster Gray. Almost every&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3mWrmWo">KJ Charles</a>book would qualify, as well as many by&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2Mko6Yf">Sophie Jordan</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/38HMudW">Anne Mallory</a>. Also, don't forget Sarah's&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3rCzHSw">Bareknuckle Bastards</a>&nbsp;series.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://amzn.to/3n0CIbE">Annika Martin</a>&nbsp;writes all the best bananas books.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Rachel Hawkins is writing contemporary adult witches under the name&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/ladyhawkins?lang=en">Erin Sterling</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Some historicals with characters from Imperial Russia? That's tough, but Sarah suggests the Stokehurst Duology from Lisa Kleypas, the first is&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2L2zjvZ">Midnight Angel.</a>&nbsp;And if you have kids interested in this time period, check out&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/34TQYgu">The Family Romonov by Candace Fleming</a>. There is nothing about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cultofweird.com/curiosities/rasputin-penis/">Rasputin's penis</a>&nbsp;in that book, be assured.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/12/29/s0321-another-ama-with-sarah-and-jen]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5feb5963f0a6cb632c455254</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/005f2b23-4956-4a59-913a-003c147ec5fa/interstitial-logo-3000.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2020 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/5c8b35db-c96e-471e-8dc0-8b12d3ef8c1b/ama-12-2020-final-revdb.mp3" length="30988021" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>31:45</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>22</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>22</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>It’s the Holidays and the end of 2020 and we don’t really know what’s happening, but Eric is keeping us honest with another AMA! This one was recorded during our Fated States postcard writing party for Jon Ossoff and Raphael Warnock — the Democratic candidates for the Senate Runoff in Georgia — answering reader questions that came in during the live recording! 

We talk about pen names, working class heroes, whether or not you should DNF books, and Rasputin’s penis. </itunes:summary></item><item><title>S03.20: Romance Families </title><itunes:title>S03.20: Romance Families </itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">It's the holidays and we're talking family romances because many of us are with our families or thinking about them this week. No matter whether you have a perfect family life or one that's a bit more of a journey, romances focusing on families have been around from the beginning -- this week, we're talking royal houses like the Westmorelands and the Malorys, the LeVeqs and the Montgomeries, and the Holmeses and the Hathaways. We also talk a lot about our own families...which was unintended, but there it is.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">You still have time to buy the Fated Mates Best of 2020 Book Pack from our friends at Old Town Books in Alexandria Virginia, and get the seven traditionally published books on the list, a Fated Mates sticker and a candle from the bookstore! Order here!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thank you, as always, for listening! If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful! For the next week or so, we've got a lot of fun stuff in the hopper -- be on the lookout for a few extra episodes!&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">And, if you're celebrating this week -- Merry Christmas!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100405/trivia?item=tr3591597">Richard Gere wasn’t old</a>&nbsp;when he filmed Pretty Woman, even though he was&nbsp;<a href="https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/hair-turn-gray-2017091812226">going gray.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://twitter.com/BooksbySSJaxon/status/1339589213117767682?s=20">Samantha Jaxon posted a very upsetting TikTok</a>, and that's all we have to say about that.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The days of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ivycoach.com/the-ivy-coach-blog/college-decisions/thick-college-envelopes/">the big and small envelope in college admissions</a>&nbsp;are over, but they do have&nbsp;<a href="https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/common-app">the Common App</a>and that seems nice.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Maybe, you too, would like&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3mJAg9A">a karaoke microphone</a>&nbsp;for your future weather-person.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/roxanne">The 1987 movie Roxanne</a>&nbsp;with Steve Martin and Daryl Hannah is a Cyrano retelling, and it has&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/Z1nYEH6EDwM">lots of very funny jokes and one-liners</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">There is&nbsp;<a href="https://indivisible.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJYuceCuqTIvHt1hR31_Xxi19Ew7Pyl0GqOM">one more phone-banking opportunity on January 4, 2021</a>. You should join us!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80232398">Bridgerton drops on December 25th</a>, along with&nbsp;<a href="https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/wonder_woman_1984">Wonder Woman 1984</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_River_(TV_series)">Virgin River</a>&nbsp;is another Netflix show based on a romance series.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Just a heads up about the photo array, I’m just including the first book of a family series because otherwise it will be overwhelming!&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">70s and 80s Old School romance series with families include:&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3nIf3Oz">the Malorys</a>&nbsp;by Johanna Lindsey,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3mDrREp">The Montgomerys and Taggerts</a>&nbsp;by Jude Deveraux, and&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3h9HQZQ">the Westmorelands</a>&nbsp;by Judith McNaught.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">90s families:&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3hdOoXe">the LeVeq family</a>&nbsp;by Beverly Jenkins,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/37EZyRM">The Cynster family</a>&nbsp;by Stephanie Laurens, the&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/37ILPtg">Rocking M series</a>&nbsp;by Elizabeth Lowell.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">2000s families:&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/34Fg4zw">Brenda Jackson’s Westmoreland family</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/34BDtBD">the Essex Sisters</a>&nbsp;by Eloisa James,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3h9G8aZ">The Holmes Brothers</a>&nbsp;by Farrah Rochon, and&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2KsFSb7">the Hathaways</a>&nbsp;by Lisa Kleypas.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">2010s families:&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2Kxbigp">The Blackshear family</a>&nbsp;by Cecilia Grant,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3rpkvIy">The Ravenels</a>&nbsp;by Kleypas,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/34xn9C7">the Duke’s Daughters</a>&nbsp;by Megan Frampton,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/34zZ7pS">the Mackenzie series</a>&nbsp;by Jennifer Ashley,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/34C8DsM">the Greene sisters</a>&nbsp;in the Uptown Girls series by Joanna Shupe,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3rlRZHx">the Talbot sisters</a>&nbsp;in Sarah’s Scandal and Scoundrel series,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3nKpocC">the von Hasenberg sisters</a>&nbsp;in the Consortium Rebellion series by Jessie Mihalik, the&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2KwGnRx">Hidden Legacy series</a>&nbsp;by Ilona Andrews, and&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/37HssRr">the Sullivans</a>&nbsp;by Bella Andre.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Brenda Jackson was the first Black romance author to hit the New York Times bestseller list with the book&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3phjrnV"><em>Irresistible Forces</em></a>&nbsp;in 2008. It's not a Westmoreland book, but the Westmoreland series is currently 30+ books and growing.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">It's the holidays and we're talking family romances because many of us are with our families or thinking about them this week. No matter whether you have a perfect family life or one that's a bit more of a journey, romances focusing on families have been around from the beginning -- this week, we're talking royal houses like the Westmorelands and the Malorys, the LeVeqs and the Montgomeries, and the Holmeses and the Hathaways. We also talk a lot about our own families...which was unintended, but there it is.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">You still have time to buy the Fated Mates Best of 2020 Book Pack from our friends at Old Town Books in Alexandria Virginia, and get the seven traditionally published books on the list, a Fated Mates sticker and a candle from the bookstore! Order here!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thank you, as always, for listening! If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful! For the next week or so, we've got a lot of fun stuff in the hopper -- be on the lookout for a few extra episodes!&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">And, if you're celebrating this week -- Merry Christmas!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100405/trivia?item=tr3591597">Richard Gere wasn’t old</a>&nbsp;when he filmed Pretty Woman, even though he was&nbsp;<a href="https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/hair-turn-gray-2017091812226">going gray.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://twitter.com/BooksbySSJaxon/status/1339589213117767682?s=20">Samantha Jaxon posted a very upsetting TikTok</a>, and that's all we have to say about that.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The days of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ivycoach.com/the-ivy-coach-blog/college-decisions/thick-college-envelopes/">the big and small envelope in college admissions</a>&nbsp;are over, but they do have&nbsp;<a href="https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/common-app">the Common App</a>and that seems nice.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Maybe, you too, would like&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3mJAg9A">a karaoke microphone</a>&nbsp;for your future weather-person.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/roxanne">The 1987 movie Roxanne</a>&nbsp;with Steve Martin and Daryl Hannah is a Cyrano retelling, and it has&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/Z1nYEH6EDwM">lots of very funny jokes and one-liners</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">There is&nbsp;<a href="https://indivisible.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJYuceCuqTIvHt1hR31_Xxi19Ew7Pyl0GqOM">one more phone-banking opportunity on January 4, 2021</a>. You should join us!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80232398">Bridgerton drops on December 25th</a>, along with&nbsp;<a href="https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/wonder_woman_1984">Wonder Woman 1984</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_River_(TV_series)">Virgin River</a>&nbsp;is another Netflix show based on a romance series.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Just a heads up about the photo array, I’m just including the first book of a family series because otherwise it will be overwhelming!&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">70s and 80s Old School romance series with families include:&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3nIf3Oz">the Malorys</a>&nbsp;by Johanna Lindsey,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3mDrREp">The Montgomerys and Taggerts</a>&nbsp;by Jude Deveraux, and&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3h9HQZQ">the Westmorelands</a>&nbsp;by Judith McNaught.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">90s families:&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3hdOoXe">the LeVeq family</a>&nbsp;by Beverly Jenkins,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/37EZyRM">The Cynster family</a>&nbsp;by Stephanie Laurens, the&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/37ILPtg">Rocking M series</a>&nbsp;by Elizabeth Lowell.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">2000s families:&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/34Fg4zw">Brenda Jackson’s Westmoreland family</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/34BDtBD">the Essex Sisters</a>&nbsp;by Eloisa James,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3h9G8aZ">The Holmes Brothers</a>&nbsp;by Farrah Rochon, and&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2KsFSb7">the Hathaways</a>&nbsp;by Lisa Kleypas.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">2010s families:&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2Kxbigp">The Blackshear family</a>&nbsp;by Cecilia Grant,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3rpkvIy">The Ravenels</a>&nbsp;by Kleypas,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/34xn9C7">the Duke’s Daughters</a>&nbsp;by Megan Frampton,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/34zZ7pS">the Mackenzie series</a>&nbsp;by Jennifer Ashley,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/34C8DsM">the Greene sisters</a>&nbsp;in the Uptown Girls series by Joanna Shupe,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3rlRZHx">the Talbot sisters</a>&nbsp;in Sarah’s Scandal and Scoundrel series,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3nKpocC">the von Hasenberg sisters</a>&nbsp;in the Consortium Rebellion series by Jessie Mihalik, the&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2KwGnRx">Hidden Legacy series</a>&nbsp;by Ilona Andrews, and&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/37HssRr">the Sullivans</a>&nbsp;by Bella Andre.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Brenda Jackson was the first Black romance author to hit the New York Times bestseller list with the book&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3phjrnV"><em>Irresistible Forces</em></a>&nbsp;in 2008. It's not a Westmoreland book, but the Westmoreland series is currently 30+ books and growing.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/12/21/s0320-romance-families-interstitial]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5fe0e22169a95d2e89fd3996</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/6c6879c3-80e7-49b7-97fa-25a22f11b790/interstitial-logo-3000.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2020 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/ff8e8fc2-2a3c-4771-8bf6-5ac81ca2adef/famlies-final-reve.mp3" length="75526663" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:13:13</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>20</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>20</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>It&apos;s the holidays and we&apos;re talking family romances because many of us are with our families or thinking about them this week. No matter whether you have a perfect family life or one that&apos;s a bit more of a journey, romances focusing on families have been around from the beginning -- this week, we&apos;re talking royal houses like the Westmorelands and the Malorys, the LeVeqs and the Montgomeries, and the Holmeses and the Hathaways. We also talk a lot about our own families...which was unintended, but there it is.</itunes:summary></item><item><title>S03.19: The Secret Diaries of Miss Miranda Cheever by Julia Quinn: Because everyone else is doing the Bridgertons</title><itunes:title>The Secret Diaries of Miss Miranda Cheever by Julia Quinn: Because everyone else is doing the Bridgertons</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>BRIDGERTON is nearly here! Make sure you have batteries in your remote and your Netflix subscription is up to date, because on 12/25, Julia Quinn’s Bridgerton series is coming to your TV courtesy of Shonda Rhimes! We are EXTREMELY EXCITED, and in honor of the series, we’re reading Sarah’s favorite Julia Quinn romance which, *surprise!* isn’t a Bridgerton book!</p><p>If you want Bridgerton deep dives, do not miss the series at Learning the Tropes with our amazing friends Erin &amp; Clayton. But we’re reading The Secret Diaries of Miss Miranda Cheever, and we’ve got a LOT to say! </p><p>Content note: This book and episode discusses miscarriage and pregnancy.</p><p>You still have time to buy the Fated Mates Best of 2020 Book Pack from our friends at <a href="https://www.oldtownbooks.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Old Town Books in Alexandria Virginia</a>, and get the seven traditionally published books on the list, a Fated Mates sticker and a candle from the bookstore! <a href="https://www.oldtownbooks.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Order here!</a></p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!&nbsp;Next week, we’ve got an interstitial, and the following week…honestly, who knows? It’s December! It could be ANYTHING!  </p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Can we brag for a minute?&nbsp;<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dmcpZm2DUOaTxJPN5cvj7-Ij4Mrqni9W/view?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our #FatedStates phone bank appeared in the Washington Post this week!</a>&nbsp;Also, if you're looking for phone banking opportunites, we have one&nbsp;<a href="https://indivisible.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJcvcOyrqTMrGNej1U32G5jrpoR4SXoEZBq8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tonight 12/16 at 5 central</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://indivisible.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJYuceCuqTIvHt1hR31_Xxi19Ew7Pyl0GqOM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">another on 1/4/2021.</a>&nbsp;Join us.&nbsp;</li><li>December 25th is going to be a great day.&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/gpv7ayf_tyE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bridgerton</a>&nbsp;drops on Netflix and&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/sfM7_JLk-84" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wonder Woman 1984</a>&nbsp;will be on HBO Max.&nbsp;</li><li>If you want a podcast tackling all of the Bridgerton books, check out&nbsp;<a href="https://learningthetropes.podbean.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learning the Tropes</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://learningthetropes.podbean.com/e/to-sir-phillip-with-love-bridgertons-book-5-by-julia-quinn-wsarah-maclean/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah was on the episode for Sir Philip with Love,</a>&nbsp;which is her favorite. Jen’s favorite is The Viscount Who Loved Me, and if it’s yours maybe you’d like&nbsp;<a href="https://www.etsy.com/shop/TheLindaLineStudio" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a “mallet of death” t-shirt from Linda</a>. Her shop is on hiatus right now, but she'll be back in the new year.&nbsp;</li><li>Here’s&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ted.com/talks/elizabeth_gilbert_your_elusive_creative_genius" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Ted talk with Elizabeth Gilbert</a>, author of<a href="https://amzn.to/2WlWnYV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">&nbsp;Eat, Pray, Love.&nbsp;</a></li><li>Does Olivia get her own book? Of course she does, it’s called&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2IVMbTS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What Happens in London.&nbsp;</a></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/37myoz2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah’s favorite Jane Austen is Emma</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1251148050992529408?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen’s favorite Jane Austen is none of them</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>If you want to see some&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thewrap.com/crown-ibble-dibble-drinking-game/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">house party games in action</a>, watch Season 4 of the Crown.</li><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/25/opinion/meghan-markle-miscarriage.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Megan Markle recently wrote about her miscarriage in the New York Times</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2018/02/lets-talk-miscarriages-in-romance.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen wrote about miscarriage</a>&nbsp;back when she blogged for The Book Queen, and it includes discussion of Sarah’s book,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3gNMH2M" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Day of the Duchess</a>.</li><li>The book with all the former heroes sharing their childbirth war stories is...well, we don't remember. If you do, please tell us!</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/12/15/s0319-the-secret-diaries-of-miss-miranda-cheever-by-julia-quinn </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BRIDGERTON is nearly here! Make sure you have batteries in your remote and your Netflix subscription is up to date, because on 12/25, Julia Quinn’s Bridgerton series is coming to your TV courtesy of Shonda Rhimes! We are EXTREMELY EXCITED, and in honor of the series, we’re reading Sarah’s favorite Julia Quinn romance which, *surprise!* isn’t a Bridgerton book!</p><p>If you want Bridgerton deep dives, do not miss the series at Learning the Tropes with our amazing friends Erin &amp; Clayton. But we’re reading The Secret Diaries of Miss Miranda Cheever, and we’ve got a LOT to say! </p><p>Content note: This book and episode discusses miscarriage and pregnancy.</p><p>You still have time to buy the Fated Mates Best of 2020 Book Pack from our friends at <a href="https://www.oldtownbooks.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Old Town Books in Alexandria Virginia</a>, and get the seven traditionally published books on the list, a Fated Mates sticker and a candle from the bookstore! <a href="https://www.oldtownbooks.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Order here!</a></p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!&nbsp;Next week, we’ve got an interstitial, and the following week…honestly, who knows? It’s December! It could be ANYTHING!  </p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Can we brag for a minute?&nbsp;<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dmcpZm2DUOaTxJPN5cvj7-Ij4Mrqni9W/view?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our #FatedStates phone bank appeared in the Washington Post this week!</a>&nbsp;Also, if you're looking for phone banking opportunites, we have one&nbsp;<a href="https://indivisible.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJcvcOyrqTMrGNej1U32G5jrpoR4SXoEZBq8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tonight 12/16 at 5 central</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://indivisible.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJYuceCuqTIvHt1hR31_Xxi19Ew7Pyl0GqOM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">another on 1/4/2021.</a>&nbsp;Join us.&nbsp;</li><li>December 25th is going to be a great day.&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/gpv7ayf_tyE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bridgerton</a>&nbsp;drops on Netflix and&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/sfM7_JLk-84" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wonder Woman 1984</a>&nbsp;will be on HBO Max.&nbsp;</li><li>If you want a podcast tackling all of the Bridgerton books, check out&nbsp;<a href="https://learningthetropes.podbean.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learning the Tropes</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://learningthetropes.podbean.com/e/to-sir-phillip-with-love-bridgertons-book-5-by-julia-quinn-wsarah-maclean/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah was on the episode for Sir Philip with Love,</a>&nbsp;which is her favorite. Jen’s favorite is The Viscount Who Loved Me, and if it’s yours maybe you’d like&nbsp;<a href="https://www.etsy.com/shop/TheLindaLineStudio" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a “mallet of death” t-shirt from Linda</a>. Her shop is on hiatus right now, but she'll be back in the new year.&nbsp;</li><li>Here’s&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ted.com/talks/elizabeth_gilbert_your_elusive_creative_genius" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Ted talk with Elizabeth Gilbert</a>, author of<a href="https://amzn.to/2WlWnYV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">&nbsp;Eat, Pray, Love.&nbsp;</a></li><li>Does Olivia get her own book? Of course she does, it’s called&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2IVMbTS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What Happens in London.&nbsp;</a></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/37myoz2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah’s favorite Jane Austen is Emma</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1251148050992529408?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen’s favorite Jane Austen is none of them</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>If you want to see some&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thewrap.com/crown-ibble-dibble-drinking-game/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">house party games in action</a>, watch Season 4 of the Crown.</li><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/25/opinion/meghan-markle-miscarriage.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Megan Markle recently wrote about her miscarriage in the New York Times</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2018/02/lets-talk-miscarriages-in-romance.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen wrote about miscarriage</a>&nbsp;back when she blogged for The Book Queen, and it includes discussion of Sarah’s book,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3gNMH2M" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Day of the Duchess</a>.</li><li>The book with all the former heroes sharing their childbirth war stories is...well, we don't remember. If you do, please tell us!</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/12/15/s0319-the-secret-diaries-of-miss-miranda-cheever-by-julia-quinn </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/12/15/s0319-the-secret-diaries-of-miss-miranda-cheever-by-julia-quinn]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5fd94b85faeb5c15cb3e75f8</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2020 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/5f440064-4a51-4be8-922e-d2567676fa43/fated-mates-not-bridgerton-jq-final-revf.mp3" length="66590502" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:04:18</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>19</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>19</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>BRIDGERTON is nearly here! Make sure you have batteries in your remote and your Netflix subscription is up to date, because on 12/25, Julia Quinn’s Bridgerton series is coming to your TV courtesy of Shonda Rhimes! We are EXTREMELY EXCITED, and in honor of the series, we’re reading Sarah’s favorite Julia Quinn romance which, *surprise!* isn’t a Bridgerton book!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-5f440064-4a51-4be8-922e-d2567676fa43.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S03.18: Julie Garwood Interstitial: Damnit, Sara! (Not our Sarah!)</title><itunes:title>S03.18: Julie Garwood Interstitial: Damnit, Sara! (Not our Sarah!)</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">This week, we tried something a little different—recording a live interstitial episode! We’re talking about Jen’s formative queen, Julie Garwood, and we dig into dialogue, alphas who are instantly gone for their heroines, heroines who tame wild animals, arranged marriages between children, and why every Garwood historical feels medieval whether or not it actually is. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We recorded this episode live during a Fated States postcard-writing party to get out the vote for the January 5th runoff election in Georgia. If you’re a Georgia voter, please vote for Jon Ossoff and Reverend Raphael Warnock, and let’s finish what we started with the blue wave! If you’re up for it, please consider <a href="https://indivisible.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJYuceCuqTIvHt1hR31_Xxi19Ew7Pyl0GqOM">joining us for a phonebanking session on the evening of January 4th</a>!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Next week, in advance of the launch of the Bridgerton series on Netflix (coming December 25th!), we’re reading Sarah’s favorite Julia Quinn novel, <em>The Secret Diaries of Miss Miranda Cheever</em>. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3ocmL37">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/secret-diaries-of-miss-miranda-cheever-julia-quinn/1101911806">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/ww/en/ebook/the-secret-diaries-of-miss-miranda-cheever">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-secret-diaries-of-miss-miranda-cheever/id360609404?ct=books_the_secret_diaries_of_miss_miranda&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_toolbox&amp;ls=1">Apple</a> or at your local indie <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780061340925">via bookshop.org</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Fated States is gearing up to&nbsp;<a href="https://indivisible.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJYuceCuqTIvHt1hR31_Xxi19Ew7Pyl0GqOM">phone bank on the evening of Jan 4 from 5-7 central time.</a>&nbsp;Join us if you can!&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">In Sarah’s&nbsp;<a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/osrbc">OSRBC facebook group</a>, there’s a longstanding search for a book where two people are on a beach and a wave throws them together, and then “oops they’re boning.” A few folks have suggested that maybe it was&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3m5eBbG">Pirate by Fabio</a>. So check it out. His co-writer (a ghost writer is when they are unnamed) is&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/37Q6kTA">Eugenia Rielly</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">A teenage horror/romance that both Jen and Kelly loved was called&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1561005.The_Ghosts_of_Departure_Point">The Ghosts of Departure Poin</a>t. Probably came from&nbsp;<a href="https://www.pinterest.com/pin/278097345713108706/">the Scholastic Book Club,</a>&nbsp;if we’re being honest.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">In case you’re wondering,&nbsp;<a href="https://bookriot.com/first-edition/">the copyright page will tell you if you’re holding a first printing or first edition</a>. Here’s a bunch of people talking about&nbsp;<a href="https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-edges-of-paperback-books-colored/694715/13">why the edges of paperbacks were dyed</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">RT Book Reviews and the RT conference once had&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/svUyoJ3a9SY">Julie Garwood and Jude Deveraux on stage at the same time, and YouTube has the video!</a>&nbsp;When Coronavirus is over, I highly recommend going to&nbsp;<a href="https://info.harpercollins.com/kisscon/">KissCon</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/1/7/s0218-born-in-ice">Nora Roberts is our Queen</a>&nbsp;and last week&nbsp;<a href="https://www.themarysue.com/nora-roberts-a-beautiful-destruction/">a poor unfortunate soul named Debra</a>&nbsp;learned that the hard way.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Obviously, Luke grew up on&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatooine">Tatooine</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Hoth">Hoth</a>&nbsp;was that ice planet place, which is why the women in the Ice Planet Barbarians series call their new home&nbsp;<a href="https://iceplanetpod.com/">Not-Hoth</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We’d be interested in hearing your interpretation of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2015/08/call-it-the-bechdel-wallace-test/402259/">The Bechdel Test.</a>&nbsp;Jen thinks the women can still talk about men AS LONG AS they also talk about other stuff, but Sarah thought it required no discussion of men at all which is pretty tough to find in romance. FWIW, Jen mentioned it in regards to The Bride because Jamie is so isolated and largely without women friends.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/11/25/s0212-lord-of-scoundrels">We like prologues and epilogues here at Fated Mates</a>, but we understand&nbsp;<a href="https://www.heavingbosoms.com/">not everyone</a>&nbsp;agrees.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The feud between the families in The Gift is “<a href="https://www.thoughtco.com/house-of-montague-2985036">like the Montagues and the Capulets</a>, but worse.” Speaking of which, Kate Clayborn’s upcoming book,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3oBmQh2">Love At First</a>, is an homage to Romeo and Juliet.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">This isn't exactly about the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-economic-history/article/lifespans-of-the-european-elite-8001800/BE252C4B25C4AAC29ED62D591A1675AC">life expectancy in Scotland was in 1100</a>, but it's close enough.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://vanessariley.com/blackpeople.php">Vanessa Riley’s site has a great explainer about Black people during the Regency on her site.</a>&nbsp;We talked about the Carribean in the Regency when we read&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/10/7/s025-gentle-rogue">Gentle Rogue.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">It wasn't a "rip off" of Home Alone, it was just an&nbsp;<a href="https://literarydevices.net/allusion/">allusion</a>. Similarly, Nathan's whip reminded Sarah of&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/artdREMlSoo">Indiana Jones</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://amzn.to/3grajKl">Are these books on audio? Why yes they are</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1336107113785987076?s=20">Jen listened to The Bride</a>&nbsp;in between recording and release of the episode and greatly enjoyed it.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.marineinsight.com/types-of-ships/7-differences-between-a-ship-and-a-boat/">Boats vs ships.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Next week, we're reading&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3qHP9w4">The Secret Diaries of Miss Miranda Cheever</a>&nbsp;by Julia Quinn</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">This week, we tried something a little different—recording a live interstitial episode! We’re talking about Jen’s formative queen, Julie Garwood, and we dig into dialogue, alphas who are instantly gone for their heroines, heroines who tame wild animals, arranged marriages between children, and why every Garwood historical feels medieval whether or not it actually is. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We recorded this episode live during a Fated States postcard-writing party to get out the vote for the January 5th runoff election in Georgia. If you’re a Georgia voter, please vote for Jon Ossoff and Reverend Raphael Warnock, and let’s finish what we started with the blue wave! If you’re up for it, please consider <a href="https://indivisible.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJYuceCuqTIvHt1hR31_Xxi19Ew7Pyl0GqOM">joining us for a phonebanking session on the evening of January 4th</a>!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Next week, in advance of the launch of the Bridgerton series on Netflix (coming December 25th!), we’re reading Sarah’s favorite Julia Quinn novel, <em>The Secret Diaries of Miss Miranda Cheever</em>. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3ocmL37">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/secret-diaries-of-miss-miranda-cheever-julia-quinn/1101911806">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/ww/en/ebook/the-secret-diaries-of-miss-miranda-cheever">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-secret-diaries-of-miss-miranda-cheever/id360609404?ct=books_the_secret_diaries_of_miss_miranda&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_toolbox&amp;ls=1">Apple</a> or at your local indie <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780061340925">via bookshop.org</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Fated States is gearing up to&nbsp;<a href="https://indivisible.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJYuceCuqTIvHt1hR31_Xxi19Ew7Pyl0GqOM">phone bank on the evening of Jan 4 from 5-7 central time.</a>&nbsp;Join us if you can!&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">In Sarah’s&nbsp;<a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/osrbc">OSRBC facebook group</a>, there’s a longstanding search for a book where two people are on a beach and a wave throws them together, and then “oops they’re boning.” A few folks have suggested that maybe it was&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3m5eBbG">Pirate by Fabio</a>. So check it out. His co-writer (a ghost writer is when they are unnamed) is&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/37Q6kTA">Eugenia Rielly</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">A teenage horror/romance that both Jen and Kelly loved was called&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1561005.The_Ghosts_of_Departure_Point">The Ghosts of Departure Poin</a>t. Probably came from&nbsp;<a href="https://www.pinterest.com/pin/278097345713108706/">the Scholastic Book Club,</a>&nbsp;if we’re being honest.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">In case you’re wondering,&nbsp;<a href="https://bookriot.com/first-edition/">the copyright page will tell you if you’re holding a first printing or first edition</a>. Here’s a bunch of people talking about&nbsp;<a href="https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-edges-of-paperback-books-colored/694715/13">why the edges of paperbacks were dyed</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">RT Book Reviews and the RT conference once had&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/svUyoJ3a9SY">Julie Garwood and Jude Deveraux on stage at the same time, and YouTube has the video!</a>&nbsp;When Coronavirus is over, I highly recommend going to&nbsp;<a href="https://info.harpercollins.com/kisscon/">KissCon</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/1/7/s0218-born-in-ice">Nora Roberts is our Queen</a>&nbsp;and last week&nbsp;<a href="https://www.themarysue.com/nora-roberts-a-beautiful-destruction/">a poor unfortunate soul named Debra</a>&nbsp;learned that the hard way.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Obviously, Luke grew up on&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatooine">Tatooine</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Hoth">Hoth</a>&nbsp;was that ice planet place, which is why the women in the Ice Planet Barbarians series call their new home&nbsp;<a href="https://iceplanetpod.com/">Not-Hoth</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We’d be interested in hearing your interpretation of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2015/08/call-it-the-bechdel-wallace-test/402259/">The Bechdel Test.</a>&nbsp;Jen thinks the women can still talk about men AS LONG AS they also talk about other stuff, but Sarah thought it required no discussion of men at all which is pretty tough to find in romance. FWIW, Jen mentioned it in regards to The Bride because Jamie is so isolated and largely without women friends.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/11/25/s0212-lord-of-scoundrels">We like prologues and epilogues here at Fated Mates</a>, but we understand&nbsp;<a href="https://www.heavingbosoms.com/">not everyone</a>&nbsp;agrees.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The feud between the families in The Gift is “<a href="https://www.thoughtco.com/house-of-montague-2985036">like the Montagues and the Capulets</a>, but worse.” Speaking of which, Kate Clayborn’s upcoming book,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3oBmQh2">Love At First</a>, is an homage to Romeo and Juliet.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">This isn't exactly about the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-economic-history/article/lifespans-of-the-european-elite-8001800/BE252C4B25C4AAC29ED62D591A1675AC">life expectancy in Scotland was in 1100</a>, but it's close enough.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://vanessariley.com/blackpeople.php">Vanessa Riley’s site has a great explainer about Black people during the Regency on her site.</a>&nbsp;We talked about the Carribean in the Regency when we read&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/10/7/s025-gentle-rogue">Gentle Rogue.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">It wasn't a "rip off" of Home Alone, it was just an&nbsp;<a href="https://literarydevices.net/allusion/">allusion</a>. Similarly, Nathan's whip reminded Sarah of&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/artdREMlSoo">Indiana Jones</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://amzn.to/3grajKl">Are these books on audio? Why yes they are</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1336107113785987076?s=20">Jen listened to The Bride</a>&nbsp;in between recording and release of the episode and greatly enjoyed it.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.marineinsight.com/types-of-ships/7-differences-between-a-ship-and-a-boat/">Boats vs ships.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Next week, we're reading&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3qHP9w4">The Secret Diaries of Miss Miranda Cheever</a>&nbsp;by Julia Quinn</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/12/7/s0318-julie-garwood-interstitial]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5fce2a8a9aa2de0c64bd50a1</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/02021f44-8651-4a9e-a975-42b7c3d3c57d/fated-states-logo.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2020 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/db437521-755b-4d8a-b9f9-bdfc5790f29b/fated-mates-garwood-final.mp3" length="74392917" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:11:58</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>18</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>18</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>This week, we tried something a little different—recording a live interstitial episode! We’re talking about Jen’s formative queen, Julie Garwood, and we dig into dialogue, alphas who are instantly gone for their heroines, heroines who tame wild animals, arranged marriages between children, and why every Garwood historical feels medieval whether or not it actually is. </itunes:summary></item><item><title>S03.17: The Hating Game by Sally Thorne: Lucy! Obviously Danny didn&apos;t send the roses!</title><itunes:title>The Hating Game by Sally Thorne: Lucy! Obviously Danny didn&apos;t send the roses!</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>There aren’t many recent romances you can point to and categorically label as game changers, but Sally Thorne’s <em>The Hating Game</em> definitely fits this bill. We talk about all the ways we love it, about sparkling dialogue and witty writing and what makes a romcom and how this book changed the cover game for a generation of romance. Oh, and yes, we get to the bottom (jk, there is no bottom) of Jen’s issues with first-person present.  </p><p>You still have time to buy the Fated Mates Best of 2020 Book Pack from our friends at <a href="https://www.oldtownbooks.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Old Town Books in Alexandria Virginia</a>, and get the seven traditionally published books on the list, a Fated Mates sticker and a candle from the bookstore! <a href="https://www.oldtownbooks.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Order before December 5th for Christmas delivery!</a></p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!&nbsp;</p><p>Next week, we’ve got an interstitial, and the following week, in advance of the launch of the Bridgerton series on Netflix, we’re reading Sarah’s favorite Julia Quinn novel, <em>The Secret Diaries of Miss Miranda Cheever</em>. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3ocmL37" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/secret-diaries-of-miss-miranda-cheever-julia-quinn/1101911806" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kobo.com/ww/en/ebook/the-secret-diaries-of-miss-miranda-cheever" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-secret-diaries-of-miss-miranda-cheever/id360609404?ct=books_the_secret_diaries_of_miss_miranda&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_toolbox&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a>&nbsp;or at your local indie&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780061340925" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">via bookshop.org</a>.</p><h2><strong>Fated States</strong></h2><ul><li><a href="https://jezebel.com/how-romance-novelists-are-mobilizing-voters-in-solidari-1845750549" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">We were really thrilled to be interviewed by Kelly Faircloth for her article about How Romance Novelists Are Mobilizing Voters in Solidarity With Stacey Abrams.</a></li></ul><br/><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/books/best-romance-novels-of-2016/2016/11/17/42c9746e-9de0-11e6-9980-50913d68eacb_story.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Hating Game was a juggernaut</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://variety.com/2020/film/global/austin-stowell-lucy-hale-mister-smith-the-hating-game-1234826960/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">will soon be a movie</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/aug/15/lets-celebrate-bridget-jones-turning-25-and-be-critical-of-her-too" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bridget Jones’s Diary</a>&nbsp;came out in 1996 and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/jun/24/my-favourite-film-aged-12-bridget-jones-diary-renee-zellweger" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the movie came out in 2001.&nbsp;</a></li><li><a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/news-and-features/articles/physics-of-great-romance-fiction/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Enemies to Lovers</a>&nbsp;is a completely beloved romance trope. Rivals to lovers lives within the larger trope and is very fun because it is often a perfectly matched pair on an even playing field. Sarah wrote&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780062692078" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Brazen &amp; the Beast</em></a>&nbsp;after being inspired by The Hating Game.</li><li>Here’s what we mean when we say&nbsp;<a href="https://katherinephelps.com/2011/11/types-of-comedy-part-three-situational-comedy/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">situational comedy</a>.</li><li><a href="https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/b69fac6f-d8e0-4497-bfa8-ac778a2d15a4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What is the plural of arch-nemesis?</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1260628374273306633?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen hates present tense</a>, but of course everyone should write what’s right for them.&nbsp;</li><li>Is it&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chick_lit" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">chick lit</a>&nbsp;or is it&nbsp;<a href="https://lithub.com/what-do-we-mean-when-we-say-womens-fiction/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">women’s fiction</a>?&nbsp;<a href="https://lithub.com/what-was-chick-lit-a-brief-history-from-the-inside/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Why do these labels even exist</a>? Just go back and read&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/36pk9cj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Girl’s Guide to Hunting and Fishing</a>&nbsp;or&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780743418171" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Good in Bed</a>&nbsp;by&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/11/opinion/the-snobs-and-me.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jennifer Weiner</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>We don’t talk about&nbsp;<a href="http://www.literarydevices.com/voice/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">voice</a>&nbsp;that much, but&nbsp;<a href="https://kidlit.com/authorial-voice-third-person-voice/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">maybe we should</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>There was a short lived Harlequin chick lit line called&nbsp;<a href="https://www.writerswrite.com/harlequin-launches-red-dress-ink-11302001688" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Red Dress Ink</a>&nbsp;in 2001.&nbsp;</li><li>Here’s what Jen teaches her kids about&nbsp;<a href="https://images.slideplayer.com/13/3795501/slides/slide_8.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">characterization</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://slate.com/culture/2020/11/romance-novels-interior-design-open-plan-minimalism.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Slate article about interiors</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://wordsuitcase.substack.com/p/window-undressing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a very thorough rebuttal from Felicia Davin</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>We talked about&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/9/1/s0303-fifty-shades-of-grey-by-el-james" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">another hero</a>&nbsp;who&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/10/5/s0309-fanfictions-influence-on-romance-with-christina-lauren" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">came up through Twilight fanfic.&nbsp;</a></li><li>If you like a scene where one main character tells off the family on behalf of their beloved, you should read&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/36sfBC4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Her Naughty Holiday by Tiffany Reisz.</a></li><li>In two weeks, we'll be reading&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3ocmL37" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Secret Diaries of Miss Miranda Cheever.</a>&nbsp;We are getting ready for&nbsp;<a href="https://www.marieclaire.com/culture/a31018089/bridgerton-netflix-shonda-rhimes/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bridgerton</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://variety.com/2020/film/news/wonder-woman-1984-hbo-max-release-1234804411/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wonder Woman 1984</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>If you're interested in&nbsp;<a href="https://www.oldtownbooks.com/?q=p.fated_mates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Fated Mates Best of 2020 book pack</a>&nbsp;and you want it delivered by Christmas, make sure you order it by 12/5.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/12/1/s0317-the-hating-game-by-sally-thorne </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There aren’t many recent romances you can point to and categorically label as game changers, but Sally Thorne’s <em>The Hating Game</em> definitely fits this bill. We talk about all the ways we love it, about sparkling dialogue and witty writing and what makes a romcom and how this book changed the cover game for a generation of romance. Oh, and yes, we get to the bottom (jk, there is no bottom) of Jen’s issues with first-person present.  </p><p>You still have time to buy the Fated Mates Best of 2020 Book Pack from our friends at <a href="https://www.oldtownbooks.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Old Town Books in Alexandria Virginia</a>, and get the seven traditionally published books on the list, a Fated Mates sticker and a candle from the bookstore! <a href="https://www.oldtownbooks.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Order before December 5th for Christmas delivery!</a></p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!&nbsp;</p><p>Next week, we’ve got an interstitial, and the following week, in advance of the launch of the Bridgerton series on Netflix, we’re reading Sarah’s favorite Julia Quinn novel, <em>The Secret Diaries of Miss Miranda Cheever</em>. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/3ocmL37" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/secret-diaries-of-miss-miranda-cheever-julia-quinn/1101911806" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kobo.com/ww/en/ebook/the-secret-diaries-of-miss-miranda-cheever" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-secret-diaries-of-miss-miranda-cheever/id360609404?ct=books_the_secret_diaries_of_miss_miranda&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_toolbox&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a>&nbsp;or at your local indie&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780061340925" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">via bookshop.org</a>.</p><h2><strong>Fated States</strong></h2><ul><li><a href="https://jezebel.com/how-romance-novelists-are-mobilizing-voters-in-solidari-1845750549" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">We were really thrilled to be interviewed by Kelly Faircloth for her article about How Romance Novelists Are Mobilizing Voters in Solidarity With Stacey Abrams.</a></li></ul><br/><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/books/best-romance-novels-of-2016/2016/11/17/42c9746e-9de0-11e6-9980-50913d68eacb_story.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Hating Game was a juggernaut</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://variety.com/2020/film/global/austin-stowell-lucy-hale-mister-smith-the-hating-game-1234826960/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">will soon be a movie</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/aug/15/lets-celebrate-bridget-jones-turning-25-and-be-critical-of-her-too" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bridget Jones’s Diary</a>&nbsp;came out in 1996 and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/jun/24/my-favourite-film-aged-12-bridget-jones-diary-renee-zellweger" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the movie came out in 2001.&nbsp;</a></li><li><a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/news-and-features/articles/physics-of-great-romance-fiction/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Enemies to Lovers</a>&nbsp;is a completely beloved romance trope. Rivals to lovers lives within the larger trope and is very fun because it is often a perfectly matched pair on an even playing field. Sarah wrote&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780062692078" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Brazen &amp; the Beast</em></a>&nbsp;after being inspired by The Hating Game.</li><li>Here’s what we mean when we say&nbsp;<a href="https://katherinephelps.com/2011/11/types-of-comedy-part-three-situational-comedy/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">situational comedy</a>.</li><li><a href="https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/b69fac6f-d8e0-4497-bfa8-ac778a2d15a4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What is the plural of arch-nemesis?</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1260628374273306633?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen hates present tense</a>, but of course everyone should write what’s right for them.&nbsp;</li><li>Is it&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chick_lit" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">chick lit</a>&nbsp;or is it&nbsp;<a href="https://lithub.com/what-do-we-mean-when-we-say-womens-fiction/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">women’s fiction</a>?&nbsp;<a href="https://lithub.com/what-was-chick-lit-a-brief-history-from-the-inside/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Why do these labels even exist</a>? Just go back and read&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/36pk9cj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Girl’s Guide to Hunting and Fishing</a>&nbsp;or&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780743418171" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Good in Bed</a>&nbsp;by&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/11/opinion/the-snobs-and-me.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jennifer Weiner</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>We don’t talk about&nbsp;<a href="http://www.literarydevices.com/voice/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">voice</a>&nbsp;that much, but&nbsp;<a href="https://kidlit.com/authorial-voice-third-person-voice/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">maybe we should</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>There was a short lived Harlequin chick lit line called&nbsp;<a href="https://www.writerswrite.com/harlequin-launches-red-dress-ink-11302001688" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Red Dress Ink</a>&nbsp;in 2001.&nbsp;</li><li>Here’s what Jen teaches her kids about&nbsp;<a href="https://images.slideplayer.com/13/3795501/slides/slide_8.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">characterization</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://slate.com/culture/2020/11/romance-novels-interior-design-open-plan-minimalism.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Slate article about interiors</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://wordsuitcase.substack.com/p/window-undressing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a very thorough rebuttal from Felicia Davin</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>We talked about&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/9/1/s0303-fifty-shades-of-grey-by-el-james" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">another hero</a>&nbsp;who&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/10/5/s0309-fanfictions-influence-on-romance-with-christina-lauren" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">came up through Twilight fanfic.&nbsp;</a></li><li>If you like a scene where one main character tells off the family on behalf of their beloved, you should read&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/36sfBC4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Her Naughty Holiday by Tiffany Reisz.</a></li><li>In two weeks, we'll be reading&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3ocmL37" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Secret Diaries of Miss Miranda Cheever.</a>&nbsp;We are getting ready for&nbsp;<a href="https://www.marieclaire.com/culture/a31018089/bridgerton-netflix-shonda-rhimes/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bridgerton</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://variety.com/2020/film/news/wonder-woman-1984-hbo-max-release-1234804411/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wonder Woman 1984</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>If you're interested in&nbsp;<a href="https://www.oldtownbooks.com/?q=p.fated_mates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Fated Mates Best of 2020 book pack</a>&nbsp;and you want it delivered by Christmas, make sure you order it by 12/5.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/12/1/s0317-the-hating-game-by-sally-thorne </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/12/1/s0317-the-hating-game-by-sally-thorne]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5fc69bf4e6d49a06bb7b5f74</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2020 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/cf265a0f-203a-4292-a47f-1efe3bf94abd/fated-mates-the-hating-game-final-revf.mp3" length="41616732" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:16:50</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>17</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>17</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>There aren’t many recent romances you can point to and categorically label as game changers, but Sally Thorne’s The Hating Game definitely fits this bill. We talk about all the ways we love it, about sparkling dialogue and witty writing and what makes a romcom and how this book changed the cover game for a generation of romance. Oh, and yes, we get to the bottom (jk, there is no bottom) of Jen’s issues with first-person present.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-cf265a0f-203a-4292-a47f-1efe3bf94abd.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S03.16: Best Romance Novels of 2020</title><itunes:title>S03.16: Best Romance Novels of 2020</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The Best Romance Novels of 2020! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">It’s the best and worst task of the year for us, because we read so many AMAZING books over the course of the year, and choosing ten and not one hundred is hard for us, ok? But here they are — ten gorgeous books  that we adored—books with badass heroines, larger-than-life heroes, brilliant structure, and outstanding writing. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Buy the Fated Mates Best of Book Pack in one fell swoop from our friends at <a href="https://www.oldtownbooks.com/fatedmates">Old Town Books in Alexandria Virginia</a>, and get the seven traditionally published books on the list, a Fated Mates sticker and a candle from the bookstore! <a href="https://www.oldtownbooks.com/fatedmates">Support fabulous authors and a woman-owned independent bookstore all at once</a>!  </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thank you, as always, for listening! If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Next week, we get back to doing what we do best: Reading Romance! We’re deep-diving on Sally Thorne’s&nbsp;<em>The Hating Game</em>. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/365ueto">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-hating-game-sally-thorne/1122785062">B&amp;N</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kobo.com/ww/en/ebook/the-hating-game-2">Kobo</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-hating-game/id1059648341?ct=books_the_hating_game&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_toolbox&amp;ls=1">Apple</a>&nbsp;or at your local indie&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780062439598">via bookshop.org</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>The Best Romance Novels of 2020</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Fated States</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Interested in phone banking or writing postcards to voters in Georgia? Join us for our upcoming Fated States events: phone banking on&nbsp;<a href="https://indivisible.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJMsfu2upz8rEtKN-GFp68g5Qzg7U6cBOEjp">12/2/20</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://indivisible.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJ0qf-iqqjwjGtxdsDhBvWK-OB6hav_Lx1lm">1/4/2021</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://indivisible.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJAtdu-tqzsoHtQjr_hWOX1doA5hSROtQfue">postcards on 12/5/2020.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Consider buying&nbsp;<a href="https://www.oldtownbooks.com/fatedmates">a Fated Mates pack of 7 of our 10 books</a>&nbsp;(it doesn't include the self-published books) from Old Town Books in Alexandria, Virgina. You can also check out&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/lists/s03-16-best-romance-novels-of-2020">our Bookshop link</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Can you believe&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/news-and-features/articles/romance-writers-america-sinking-ship/">that RWA debacle</a>&nbsp;was 11 months ago?&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">So you want to hear us talk about&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/9/15/s0305-a-heart-of-blood-and-ashes-by-milla-vane">A Heart of Blood and Ashes</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/9/6/s0304-friends-to-lovers-interstitial-with-tracey-livesay">Like Lovers Do</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/7/6/s0244-freewheeling-with-kennedy-ryan">Queen Move</a>, or&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/6/23/s0242-unusual-historical-interstitial-with-joanna-shupe">The Devil of Downtown</a>?&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Cold War history is fascinating. Not only&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1116681034152779778?s=20">all the nuclear stuff</a>, but Sarah's story about&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2V1bK8t">K Blows Top</a>&nbsp;sounds fascinating.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Some LitFic novels that play around with dual storylines are&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3m3UTxG">The French Lieutenant’s Woman</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3m3tXhj">Possession</a>, and the more romance adjacent&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3ftuiaS">Secret History of the Pink Carnation</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">All about&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1228787624619511808?s=20">danger banging.</a>&nbsp;And of course&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/product-page/danger-bang">there’s a button for that.&nbsp;</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="http://nypdhistory.com/whats-the-deal-with-tammany-halls-corruption-of-the-new-york-city-police-department-chapter-1/">Tammany Hall</a>&nbsp;is often used as a historical example of total police corruption.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Up next week, we'll be reading&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/362HTCJ">The Hating Game</a>&nbsp;by Sally Thorne.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The Best Romance Novels of 2020! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">It’s the best and worst task of the year for us, because we read so many AMAZING books over the course of the year, and choosing ten and not one hundred is hard for us, ok? But here they are — ten gorgeous books  that we adored—books with badass heroines, larger-than-life heroes, brilliant structure, and outstanding writing. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Buy the Fated Mates Best of Book Pack in one fell swoop from our friends at <a href="https://www.oldtownbooks.com/fatedmates">Old Town Books in Alexandria Virginia</a>, and get the seven traditionally published books on the list, a Fated Mates sticker and a candle from the bookstore! <a href="https://www.oldtownbooks.com/fatedmates">Support fabulous authors and a woman-owned independent bookstore all at once</a>!  </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thank you, as always, for listening! If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Next week, we get back to doing what we do best: Reading Romance! We’re deep-diving on Sally Thorne’s&nbsp;<em>The Hating Game</em>. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/365ueto">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-hating-game-sally-thorne/1122785062">B&amp;N</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kobo.com/ww/en/ebook/the-hating-game-2">Kobo</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-hating-game/id1059648341?ct=books_the_hating_game&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_toolbox&amp;ls=1">Apple</a>&nbsp;or at your local indie&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780062439598">via bookshop.org</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>The Best Romance Novels of 2020</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Fated States</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Interested in phone banking or writing postcards to voters in Georgia? Join us for our upcoming Fated States events: phone banking on&nbsp;<a href="https://indivisible.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJMsfu2upz8rEtKN-GFp68g5Qzg7U6cBOEjp">12/2/20</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://indivisible.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJ0qf-iqqjwjGtxdsDhBvWK-OB6hav_Lx1lm">1/4/2021</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://indivisible.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJAtdu-tqzsoHtQjr_hWOX1doA5hSROtQfue">postcards on 12/5/2020.</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Consider buying&nbsp;<a href="https://www.oldtownbooks.com/fatedmates">a Fated Mates pack of 7 of our 10 books</a>&nbsp;(it doesn't include the self-published books) from Old Town Books in Alexandria, Virgina. You can also check out&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/lists/s03-16-best-romance-novels-of-2020">our Bookshop link</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Can you believe&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/news-and-features/articles/romance-writers-america-sinking-ship/">that RWA debacle</a>&nbsp;was 11 months ago?&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">So you want to hear us talk about&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/9/15/s0305-a-heart-of-blood-and-ashes-by-milla-vane">A Heart of Blood and Ashes</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/9/6/s0304-friends-to-lovers-interstitial-with-tracey-livesay">Like Lovers Do</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/7/6/s0244-freewheeling-with-kennedy-ryan">Queen Move</a>, or&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/6/23/s0242-unusual-historical-interstitial-with-joanna-shupe">The Devil of Downtown</a>?&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Cold War history is fascinating. Not only&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1116681034152779778?s=20">all the nuclear stuff</a>, but Sarah's story about&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2V1bK8t">K Blows Top</a>&nbsp;sounds fascinating.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Some LitFic novels that play around with dual storylines are&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3m3UTxG">The French Lieutenant’s Woman</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3m3tXhj">Possession</a>, and the more romance adjacent&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3ftuiaS">Secret History of the Pink Carnation</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">All about&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1228787624619511808?s=20">danger banging.</a>&nbsp;And of course&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/product-page/danger-bang">there’s a button for that.&nbsp;</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="http://nypdhistory.com/whats-the-deal-with-tammany-halls-corruption-of-the-new-york-city-police-department-chapter-1/">Tammany Hall</a>&nbsp;is often used as a historical example of total police corruption.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Up next week, we'll be reading&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/362HTCJ">The Hating Game</a>&nbsp;by Sally Thorne.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/11/23/s0316-best-romance-novels-of-2020]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5fbbef2e79b2823542c98bfc</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/e30bb74f-1cd8-466a-bdf0-d777c0404591/best-of-2020.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2020 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/acf31c6a-5ca1-4911-93e4-910bf43db26e/fated-mates-best-of-2020-final-revb.mp3" length="73783312" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:11:50</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>16</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>16</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>The Best Romance Novels of 2020! 

It’s the best and worst task of the year for us, because we read so many AMAZING books over the course of the year, and choosing ten and not one hundred is hard for us, ok? But here they are — ten gorgeous books  that we adored—books with badass heroines, larger-than-life heroes, brilliant structure, and outstanding writing. </itunes:summary></item><item><title>S03.15: Menage Romance with Katee Robert</title><itunes:title>S03.15: Menage Romance Interstitial with Katee Robert</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">It’s  getting colder out there, so we’re getting hot in here! We’ve got the  fabulous Katee Robert with us to talk about ménage romance and why she  writes them so well. We get to the bottom of why it always gets shoved  into the taboo corner of romance, the fantasy of the trope, and why we  like it so very much. Also, we topple the TBR (as usual)!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thank you, as always, for listening! If you are up for leaving a  rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be  very grateful! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Slight change of schedule to accommodate a fun thing we’re up to…next  week, just in time for your Thanksgiving sloth, we’re announcing our  best books of 2020! The following week, we’re reading Sally Thorne’s <em>The Hating Game</em>! Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/365ueto">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-hating-game-sally-thorne/1122785062">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/ww/en/ebook/the-hating-game-2">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-hating-game/id1059648341?ct=books_the_hating_game&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_toolbox&amp;ls=1">Apple</a> or at your local indie <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780062439598">via bookshop.org</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Welcome <a href="https://www.kateerobert.com/">Katee Robert</a>! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:An_article_about_yourself_isn%27t_necessarily_a_good_thing">You can’t just make wikipedia pages about yourself</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://bookriot.com/high-fantasy-vs-low-fantasy/">High fantasy</a> has real meaning. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">When talking about romance, M and F (and NB for nonbinary) are used  to inform readers about the gender identity of the main characters. This  is an imperfect shorthand, but at this point in our understanding of  sex and gender, it seems like the most respectful way to acknowledge  that there is a huge range of sexual identities that exist for people of  all genders. For example, if we call a book with two women “a lesbian  romance” it might not take into account that one character is bisexual,  which adds to bi-erasure. So if a romance is labeled M/F, we know there  is a man and a woman in a romantic relationship, but that leaves room  for the sexual identity of the characters to be fully explored in the  book. In romance with more than two people, the order of the letters  matters. A book that is MFM would mean that the two men do not have a  sexual relationship with each other, while FMM or MMF means that they  do. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">There is nothing taboo about <a href="https://www.healthline.com/health/polyamorous#key-values">polyamory</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Jen liked the progression of menage in Elle Kennedy’s Out of Uniform  series. The series starts with a non-swords crossing threesome, <a href="https://amzn.to/3f61DZe">Hot and Bothered</a>. The observing one was <a href="https://amzn.to/3kGuip1">Heat of the Night</a>  (available in the Hot and Heavy anthology), where Ryan watches  Annabelle have sex with his roommate. But as the series progresses,  there is contact between the SEALs in <a href="https://amzn.to/35FIBFP">Feeling Hot</a> and a fully formed menage relationship in <a href="https://amzn.to/36Lupuj">Hotter Than Ever</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://thesteamyreader.com/what-the-heck-happened-to-elloras-cave">Ellora’s Cave</a> and <a href="https://goodereader.com/blog/indie-author-news/samhain-closes-is-amazon-to-blame">Samhain</a> were two of the original (and now shuttered) indie publishers that specialized in erotic romance and/or taboo romance. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/features/a27259689/toxic-masculinity-male-friendships-emotional-labor-men-rely-on-women/">That article in Harpers about how men don’t have friends</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://ew.com/books/2018/08/07/laurell-k-hamiltons-anita-blake-25th-anniversary/">The Anita Blake series</a> went through a lot of changes, so just go with Katee’s method and start with #9, <a href="https://amzn.to/35FrkN5">Obsidian Butterfly</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Katee will be back to talk about <a href="https://allthetropes.fandom.com/wiki/Morality_Chain">morality chain</a> in 2021. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Next week, we’ll be airing our Best of 2020 episode, and then the first week of December, we’ll be discussing <a href="https://amzn.to/35FqEaw">The Hating Game</a>. </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">It’s  getting colder out there, so we’re getting hot in here! We’ve got the  fabulous Katee Robert with us to talk about ménage romance and why she  writes them so well. We get to the bottom of why it always gets shoved  into the taboo corner of romance, the fantasy of the trope, and why we  like it so very much. Also, we topple the TBR (as usual)!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thank you, as always, for listening! If you are up for leaving a  rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be  very grateful! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Slight change of schedule to accommodate a fun thing we’re up to…next  week, just in time for your Thanksgiving sloth, we’re announcing our  best books of 2020! The following week, we’re reading Sally Thorne’s <em>The Hating Game</em>! Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/365ueto">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-hating-game-sally-thorne/1122785062">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/ww/en/ebook/the-hating-game-2">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-hating-game/id1059648341?ct=books_the_hating_game&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_toolbox&amp;ls=1">Apple</a> or at your local indie <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780062439598">via bookshop.org</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Welcome <a href="https://www.kateerobert.com/">Katee Robert</a>! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:An_article_about_yourself_isn%27t_necessarily_a_good_thing">You can’t just make wikipedia pages about yourself</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://bookriot.com/high-fantasy-vs-low-fantasy/">High fantasy</a> has real meaning. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">When talking about romance, M and F (and NB for nonbinary) are used  to inform readers about the gender identity of the main characters. This  is an imperfect shorthand, but at this point in our understanding of  sex and gender, it seems like the most respectful way to acknowledge  that there is a huge range of sexual identities that exist for people of  all genders. For example, if we call a book with two women “a lesbian  romance” it might not take into account that one character is bisexual,  which adds to bi-erasure. So if a romance is labeled M/F, we know there  is a man and a woman in a romantic relationship, but that leaves room  for the sexual identity of the characters to be fully explored in the  book. In romance with more than two people, the order of the letters  matters. A book that is MFM would mean that the two men do not have a  sexual relationship with each other, while FMM or MMF means that they  do. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">There is nothing taboo about <a href="https://www.healthline.com/health/polyamorous#key-values">polyamory</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Jen liked the progression of menage in Elle Kennedy’s Out of Uniform  series. The series starts with a non-swords crossing threesome, <a href="https://amzn.to/3f61DZe">Hot and Bothered</a>. The observing one was <a href="https://amzn.to/3kGuip1">Heat of the Night</a>  (available in the Hot and Heavy anthology), where Ryan watches  Annabelle have sex with his roommate. But as the series progresses,  there is contact between the SEALs in <a href="https://amzn.to/35FIBFP">Feeling Hot</a> and a fully formed menage relationship in <a href="https://amzn.to/36Lupuj">Hotter Than Ever</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://thesteamyreader.com/what-the-heck-happened-to-elloras-cave">Ellora’s Cave</a> and <a href="https://goodereader.com/blog/indie-author-news/samhain-closes-is-amazon-to-blame">Samhain</a> were two of the original (and now shuttered) indie publishers that specialized in erotic romance and/or taboo romance. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/features/a27259689/toxic-masculinity-male-friendships-emotional-labor-men-rely-on-women/">That article in Harpers about how men don’t have friends</a>. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://ew.com/books/2018/08/07/laurell-k-hamiltons-anita-blake-25th-anniversary/">The Anita Blake series</a> went through a lot of changes, so just go with Katee’s method and start with #9, <a href="https://amzn.to/35FrkN5">Obsidian Butterfly</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Katee will be back to talk about <a href="https://allthetropes.fandom.com/wiki/Morality_Chain">morality chain</a> in 2021. </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Next week, we’ll be airing our Best of 2020 episode, and then the first week of December, we’ll be discussing <a href="https://amzn.to/35FqEaw">The Hating Game</a>. </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/11/16/s0315-menage-romance-interstitial-with-katee-robert]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5fb29d6178707a71da4d5d3f</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/084fc9c4-6da1-40ed-a659-4cd1e287fd0a/interstitial-logo-3000.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2020 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/7207487e-6a9e-469c-b240-c8889715e2c8/fated-mates-menage-final.mp3" length="150383089" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:00:50</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>15</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>15</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>It’s getting colder out there, so we’re getting hot in here! We’ve got the fabulous Katee Robert with us to talk about ménage romance and why she writes them so well. We get to the bottom of why it always gets shoved into the taboo corner of romance, the fantasy of the trope, and why we like it so very much. Also, we topple the TBR (as usual)!</itunes:summary></item><item><title>S03.14: Our 100th Episode! Fated Mates Live</title><itunes:title>S03.14: Our 100th Episode! Fated Mates Live</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">ONE HUNDRED EPISODES! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">You’ve seen us through <a href="https://fatedmates.net/the-books">Immortals After Dark</a>, through <a href="https://fatedmates.net/season-two-books-that-blooded-us">Books that Blooded Us</a>, and through a presidential election, so if there was any doubt that you’re stuck with us, put that right out of your mind! We love you so much for listening…and we hope you have as much fun listening to this episode as we had recording it!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thanks to <a href="http://www.traceylivesay.com">Tracey Livesay</a>, <a href="https://www.andiejchristopher.com">Andie J Christopher</a>, <a href="https://www.kateclayborn.com">Kate Clayborn</a>, <a href="https://www.christinalaurenbooks.com">Christina Lauren</a>, <a href="https://adrianaherreraromance.com">Adriana Herrera</a>, <a href="https://www.nisha-sharma.com">Nisha Sharma</a> and <a href="https://www.joannashupe.com">Joanna Shupe</a> for joining us, and to <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/7/6/s0245-vivian-stephens-acquisitions-with-librarian-steve-ammidown">Steve Ammidown</a> for popping in to say hi! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Next week, we have an interstitial coming, and the following week, we’re back on read alongs with Sally Thorne’s <em>The Hating Game</em>! Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/365ueto">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-hating-game-sally-thorne/1122785062">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/ww/en/ebook/the-hating-game-2">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-hating-game/id1059648341?ct=books_the_hating_game&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_toolbox&amp;ls=1">Apple</a> or at your local indie <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780062439598">via bookshop.org</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">In between when we recorded and when you're listening,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/07/politics/joe-biden-wins-us-presidential-election/index.html">something great happened</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_Squares">How did Hollywood Squares work</a>? What did&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/vsLSfDu08x0">the theme song</a>&nbsp;sound like? What does&nbsp;<a href="https://ew.com/article/2003/08/01/hollywood-squares-2/">Whoopi Goldberg</a>have to do with it?</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Fated States will be back! One of our dedicated phone bankers and the head of the OSRBC-IAD book discussion, Caroline,&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/yogacarolina/status/1323392455358607360?s=20">had an amazing experience when she was phone banking the week before the election.&nbsp;</a>And we are&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/yogacarolina/status/1324889317584506880?s=20">not at all jealous about her amazing gift basket from Kresley Cole!&nbsp;</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Check out&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/142-milla-vane-a-heart-of-blood-and-ashes/id1312659727?i=1000494691602">Milla Vane on the Wicked Wallflowers podcast</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Andie Christopher hosts Drunk Romance History on her Instagram feed every Saturday and it’s hilarious. Sarah joined her Saturday after&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/CHTpUqrgTy-/">a full day of Election drinking</a>&nbsp;to talk&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/CHTvL82gcdz/"><em>Suddenly You</em></a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Do you know the book where a wave causes accidental penetration for a couple on a beach? NEITHER DO WE!&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Here’s the link to&nbsp;<a href="https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/15jVFYTFBhtnAVFRFAelEdp036glnSaVG7sI7Yyv6kJ0/edit?usp=sharing">all the slides for Fuck, Marry, Kill and Would Derek Craven</a>. And here are all the&nbsp;<a href="https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1I8U0SXAD64d530etdzzGpo-GyIO_gkx1yVxulpsIZbc/edit?usp=sharing">Title Smash</a>&nbsp;slides.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1092522175184232453?s=20">We invented a holiday</a>. No big.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We love Philadelphia.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nhl/news/all-the-best-gritty-election-memes-and-tweets-because-everyone-loves-gritty/uskbnmdl3o2j1cb03wnmg38mf">Gritty was an unexpected hero of the 2020 election</a>. Now you know all about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/philadelphia/comments/3pj7fg/how_many_of_you_make_a_left_turn_during_a_red/">the Philadelphia Left</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://twitter.com/stegan/status/1321918668687724544?s=20">The Danielle Steele thread</a>&nbsp;from Steve Ammidown at the Browne Pop Culture Library.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We really need to talk about the 80s blockbusters&nbsp;<a href="https://medium.com/the-awl/the-thorn-birds-when-young-sexy-straight-priests-roamed-the-earth-4e717f212f55">The Thorn Birds</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://slate.com/culture/2014/05/clan-of-the-cave-bear-and-feminism-dystopian-precedent-to-the-hunger-games.html">Clan of the Cave Bear</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/nov/14/flowers-in-the-attic-vc-andrews-40-years">Flowers in the Attic</a>&nbsp;(and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.today.com/popculture/incest-arsenic-flowers-attic-movie-keeps-novels-juicy-moments-2D11893538">powdered donuts</a>).</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">It&nbsp;<a href="http://www.mtv.com/news/2992233/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-20-years-later-sex-and-the-vampire-city/">was Buffy and Spike</a>&nbsp;in the mausoleum, not Buffy and Angel.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We can't find the TikTok of Paul Rudd and his son, but instead we'll discuss if&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/anne_theriault/status/1324381042715824129?s=20">anyone knows where Michael J. Fox got his cloning machine?&nbsp;</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We’ll leave you to contemplate the whole “hero pooping” theory on your own, but<a href="https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/music/1323048/Elvis-Presley-death-how-did-elvis-presley-die-cause-of-death-toilet-latest">&nbsp;we all know for sure that Elvis poops</a>.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">ONE HUNDRED EPISODES! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">You’ve seen us through <a href="https://fatedmates.net/the-books">Immortals After Dark</a>, through <a href="https://fatedmates.net/season-two-books-that-blooded-us">Books that Blooded Us</a>, and through a presidential election, so if there was any doubt that you’re stuck with us, put that right out of your mind! We love you so much for listening…and we hope you have as much fun listening to this episode as we had recording it!</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Thanks to <a href="http://www.traceylivesay.com">Tracey Livesay</a>, <a href="https://www.andiejchristopher.com">Andie J Christopher</a>, <a href="https://www.kateclayborn.com">Kate Clayborn</a>, <a href="https://www.christinalaurenbooks.com">Christina Lauren</a>, <a href="https://adrianaherreraromance.com">Adriana Herrera</a>, <a href="https://www.nisha-sharma.com">Nisha Sharma</a> and <a href="https://www.joannashupe.com">Joanna Shupe</a> for joining us, and to <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/7/6/s0245-vivian-stephens-acquisitions-with-librarian-steve-ammidown">Steve Ammidown</a> for popping in to say hi! </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Next week, we have an interstitial coming, and the following week, we’re back on read alongs with Sally Thorne’s <em>The Hating Game</em>! Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/365ueto">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-hating-game-sally-thorne/1122785062">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/ww/en/ebook/the-hating-game-2">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-hating-game/id1059648341?ct=books_the_hating_game&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_toolbox&amp;ls=1">Apple</a> or at your local indie <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780062439598">via bookshop.org</a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">In between when we recorded and when you're listening,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/07/politics/joe-biden-wins-us-presidential-election/index.html">something great happened</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_Squares">How did Hollywood Squares work</a>? What did&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/vsLSfDu08x0">the theme song</a>&nbsp;sound like? What does&nbsp;<a href="https://ew.com/article/2003/08/01/hollywood-squares-2/">Whoopi Goldberg</a>have to do with it?</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Fated States will be back! One of our dedicated phone bankers and the head of the OSRBC-IAD book discussion, Caroline,&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/yogacarolina/status/1323392455358607360?s=20">had an amazing experience when she was phone banking the week before the election.&nbsp;</a>And we are&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/yogacarolina/status/1324889317584506880?s=20">not at all jealous about her amazing gift basket from Kresley Cole!&nbsp;</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Check out&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/142-milla-vane-a-heart-of-blood-and-ashes/id1312659727?i=1000494691602">Milla Vane on the Wicked Wallflowers podcast</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Andie Christopher hosts Drunk Romance History on her Instagram feed every Saturday and it’s hilarious. Sarah joined her Saturday after&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/CHTpUqrgTy-/">a full day of Election drinking</a>&nbsp;to talk&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/CHTvL82gcdz/"><em>Suddenly You</em></a>.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Do you know the book where a wave causes accidental penetration for a couple on a beach? NEITHER DO WE!&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Here’s the link to&nbsp;<a href="https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/15jVFYTFBhtnAVFRFAelEdp036glnSaVG7sI7Yyv6kJ0/edit?usp=sharing">all the slides for Fuck, Marry, Kill and Would Derek Craven</a>. And here are all the&nbsp;<a href="https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1I8U0SXAD64d530etdzzGpo-GyIO_gkx1yVxulpsIZbc/edit?usp=sharing">Title Smash</a>&nbsp;slides.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1092522175184232453?s=20">We invented a holiday</a>. No big.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We love Philadelphia.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nhl/news/all-the-best-gritty-election-memes-and-tweets-because-everyone-loves-gritty/uskbnmdl3o2j1cb03wnmg38mf">Gritty was an unexpected hero of the 2020 election</a>. Now you know all about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/philadelphia/comments/3pj7fg/how_many_of_you_make_a_left_turn_during_a_red/">the Philadelphia Left</a>.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><a href="https://twitter.com/stegan/status/1321918668687724544?s=20">The Danielle Steele thread</a>&nbsp;from Steve Ammidown at the Browne Pop Culture Library.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We really need to talk about the 80s blockbusters&nbsp;<a href="https://medium.com/the-awl/the-thorn-birds-when-young-sexy-straight-priests-roamed-the-earth-4e717f212f55">The Thorn Birds</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://slate.com/culture/2014/05/clan-of-the-cave-bear-and-feminism-dystopian-precedent-to-the-hunger-games.html">Clan of the Cave Bear</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/nov/14/flowers-in-the-attic-vc-andrews-40-years">Flowers in the Attic</a>&nbsp;(and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.today.com/popculture/incest-arsenic-flowers-attic-movie-keeps-novels-juicy-moments-2D11893538">powdered donuts</a>).</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">It&nbsp;<a href="http://www.mtv.com/news/2992233/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-20-years-later-sex-and-the-vampire-city/">was Buffy and Spike</a>&nbsp;in the mausoleum, not Buffy and Angel.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We can't find the TikTok of Paul Rudd and his son, but instead we'll discuss if&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/anne_theriault/status/1324381042715824129?s=20">anyone knows where Michael J. Fox got his cloning machine?&nbsp;</a></p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">We’ll leave you to contemplate the whole “hero pooping” theory on your own, but<a href="https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/music/1323048/Elvis-Presley-death-how-did-elvis-presley-die-cause-of-death-toilet-latest">&nbsp;we all know for sure that Elvis poops</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/11/8/s0314-our-100th-episode-fated-mates-live]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5fa866f7ef83d42c47c96146</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/dd0b124d-6c47-4703-b259-22a0b2ea6a72/100-ep-square.jpeg"/><pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2020 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/36e19250-8aed-47f1-88cd-1502be8d3470/fated-mates-live-episode-100-final-revc.mp3" length="124591424" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:55:22</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>14</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>ONE HUNDRED EPISODES! 

You’ve seen us through Immortals After Dark, through Books that Blooded Us, and through a presidential election, so if there was any doubt that you’re stuck with us, put that right out of your mind! We love you so much for listening…and we hope you have as much fun listening to this episode as we had recording it!

Thanks to Tracey Livesay, Andie J Christopher, Kate Clayborn, Christina Lauren, Adriana Herrera, Nisha Sharma and Joanna Shupe for joining us, and to Steve Ammidown for popping in to say hi! </itunes:summary></item><item><title>S03.13: Fated States Author Recommendations</title><itunes:title>S03.13: Fated States Author Recommendation Interstitial</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class=""><br>The last six weeks have been rough, but Fated Mates listeners and a wild number of Romance Authors made them easier by being a part of Fated States, our weekly phonebanking initiative with Indivisible Action. We don’t know how yesterday went, but we know we are so incredibly proud to have worked alongside so many listeners who volunteered their time to phonebank, and so many amazing authors who donated books to phone bankers!</p><p class="">On this episode, we rec books by every author who donated free books to Fated States — all 49 of them! Your TBR is going to be full for years after this one! We promise! Special shout out to Julia Quinn, Suzanne Brockmann, AJ Cousins, Carrie Ann Ryan &amp; Cassandra Carr, who each donated books to EVERY phonebanker, once a week for five weeks.</p><p class="">Below, in Show Notes, you’ll find a full list of the books we recommend, and links to Amazon. You can buy print versions of books and support independent bookstores <a href="https://bookshop.org/lists/fated-states-author-recommendations">at our bookshop.org shop</a>!</p><p class="">AND…thanks to our sister pods, <a href="https://www.heavingbosoms.com">Heaving Bosoms</a>, <a href="https://learningthetropes.podbean.com">Learning the Tropes</a> and <a href="https://wickedwallflowersclub.com">The Wicked Wallflowers</a>, who donated podcasting swag, and to <a href="https://www.resistancebuttons.com">BestFriendKelly</a> for stickers!</p><p class="">IMPORTANT UPDATE: This Thursday, November 5th, we’ll be recording our 100th Episode LIVE on Zoom, and we want you to be there! Join us and special guests, for games, laughter, romance recommendations, and as much joy as you can handle. <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/live-fated-mates-episode-100-tickets-126858518243?ref=estw%20ing%20https%3A%2F%2Fwww.eventbrite.com%2Fe%2Flive-fated-mates-episode-100-tickets-126858518243%3Fref%3Destw">Sign up here</a>.</p><p class="">Next week, we’ll release the 100th Episode for those of you who can’t make it Thursday, and the following week, we’re back on read alongs with Sally Thorne’s <em>The Hating Game</em>! Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/365ueto">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-hating-game-sally-thorne/1122785062">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/ww/en/ebook/the-hating-game-2">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-hating-game/id1059648341?ct=books_the_hating_game&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_toolbox&amp;ls=1">Apple</a> or at your local indie <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780062439598">via bookshop.org</a>.</p><p class=""></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class=""><br>The last six weeks have been rough, but Fated Mates listeners and a wild number of Romance Authors made them easier by being a part of Fated States, our weekly phonebanking initiative with Indivisible Action. We don’t know how yesterday went, but we know we are so incredibly proud to have worked alongside so many listeners who volunteered their time to phonebank, and so many amazing authors who donated books to phone bankers!</p><p class="">On this episode, we rec books by every author who donated free books to Fated States — all 49 of them! Your TBR is going to be full for years after this one! We promise! Special shout out to Julia Quinn, Suzanne Brockmann, AJ Cousins, Carrie Ann Ryan &amp; Cassandra Carr, who each donated books to EVERY phonebanker, once a week for five weeks.</p><p class="">Below, in Show Notes, you’ll find a full list of the books we recommend, and links to Amazon. You can buy print versions of books and support independent bookstores <a href="https://bookshop.org/lists/fated-states-author-recommendations">at our bookshop.org shop</a>!</p><p class="">AND…thanks to our sister pods, <a href="https://www.heavingbosoms.com">Heaving Bosoms</a>, <a href="https://learningthetropes.podbean.com">Learning the Tropes</a> and <a href="https://wickedwallflowersclub.com">The Wicked Wallflowers</a>, who donated podcasting swag, and to <a href="https://www.resistancebuttons.com">BestFriendKelly</a> for stickers!</p><p class="">IMPORTANT UPDATE: This Thursday, November 5th, we’ll be recording our 100th Episode LIVE on Zoom, and we want you to be there! Join us and special guests, for games, laughter, romance recommendations, and as much joy as you can handle. <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/live-fated-mates-episode-100-tickets-126858518243?ref=estw%20ing%20https%3A%2F%2Fwww.eventbrite.com%2Fe%2Flive-fated-mates-episode-100-tickets-126858518243%3Fref%3Destw">Sign up here</a>.</p><p class="">Next week, we’ll release the 100th Episode for those of you who can’t make it Thursday, and the following week, we’re back on read alongs with Sally Thorne’s <em>The Hating Game</em>! Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/365ueto">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-hating-game-sally-thorne/1122785062">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/ww/en/ebook/the-hating-game-2">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-hating-game/id1059648341?ct=books_the_hating_game&amp;itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_toolbox&amp;ls=1">Apple</a> or at your local indie <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780062439598">via bookshop.org</a>.</p><p class=""></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/11/1/s0313-fatedstates2020-thank-you-interstitial]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5f9f27220991472cc531c3b1</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/a8e5f85e-af2c-4951-9402-15464fde0a17/fated-states-logo.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2020 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/1d5bea8f-f088-4665-addb-c5921b320985/fated-states-book-recs-final-revb.mp3" length="95981769" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:37:52</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>13</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>The last six weeks have been rough, but Fated Mates listeners and a wild number of Romance Authors made them easier by being a part of Fated States, our weekly phonebanking initiative with Indivisible Action. We don’t know how yesterday went, but we know we are so incredibly proud to have worked alongside so many listeners who volunteered their time to phonebank, and so many amazing authors who donated books to phone bankers! 

On this episode, we rec books by every author who donated free books to Fated States — all 49 of them! Your TBR is going to be full for years after this one! We promise! Special shout out to Julia Quinn, Suzanne Brockmann, AJ Cousins, Carrie Ann Ryan &amp; Cassandra Carr, who each donated books to EVERY phonebanker, once a week for five weeks. </itunes:summary></item><item><title>S03.12: The Immigrant Story and Joy in Romance with Adriana Herrera</title><itunes:title>The Immigrant Story and Joy in Romance with Adriana Herrera</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>The fabulous Adriana Herrera is here for her fourth time to talk about Joy! We had a great time with one of the greatest people this week — talking about the American immigrant experience, how hope and bravery make for beautiful love stories, and listing a huge number of books that we love.</p><p>IMPORTANT UPDATE: Next Thursday, November 5th, we’ll be recording our 100th Episode LIVE on Zoom, and we want you to be there! Join us and special guests, for games, laughter, romance recommendations, and as much joy as you can handle. Come on…you know you want something to look forward to next week! Let it be this! <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/live-fated-mates-episode-100-tickets-126858518243?ref=estw%20ing%20https%3A%2F%2Fwww.eventbrite.com%2Fe%2Flive-fated-mates-episode-100-tickets-126858518243%3Fref%3Destw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sign up here</a>.</p><p>We’re putting read alongs on hold for a bit to spend the next few weeks hanging out with some of our favorite people and talking about books and tropes that give us joy, so we hope you’ll join us and keep a pen handy so you can add to your TBR list as needed!</p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!</p><p><strong>Fated States!</strong></p><p><a href="https://indivisible.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJwqf-isqDssHtKcpCtdiDdL5UJ8VixBGiG_" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Join us this Saturday, October 31st at 3pm Eastern</a> to flip the country blue! It’s easy, not scary, and there will be prizes! Sign up at the link, watch the video, and come hang out!</p><p>Remember: "Despair is not a strategy."</p><p>Donate Donate Donate (if you can). We're thrilled to support "<a href="https://secure.actblue.com/donate/getmitch" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Get Mitch or Die Trying</a>" via ActBlue -- donations to this are immediately split evenly between Senate candidates in elections</p><p><a href="https://swingleft.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Text bank</a></p><p><a href="https://indivisible.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJ0scOyvpjsiGN3XG_xoQaXkozaKXC85In6O" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Phone bank</a></p><p><a href="https://iwillvote.com/votebymail" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vote early by mail</a> if you are planning to vote by mail. At this point, the USPS is so slow that your best bet is to drive/walk/bike/rollerskate your ballot to the nearest polling dropbox rather than put it in a mailbox.</p><p><a href="https://www.vote.org/early-voting-calendar/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vote early in person if your state has early voting</a>.</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjA2nUUsGxw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stay fired up!</a></p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p>Welcome back, <a href="https://indivisible.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJwqf-isqDssHtKcpCtdiDdL5UJ8VixBGiG_" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adriana Herrera</a>! She’s been on a few times so far: <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/3-something-we-said-wicked-deeds-on-a-winters-night" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wicked Deeds on a Winter’s Night</a>, the <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/3/18/95-foodie-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">food romance episode</a>, and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/8/12/representation-of-trauma-survivors-in-romance-adriana-herrera-and-jen-prokop" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">she and Jen talked about trauma in romance</a>. This week, her March 2020 release American Sweethearts appeared on the <a href="https://best-books.publishersweekly.com/pw/best-books/2020" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Publisher’s Weekly Best of 2020 List</a>.</p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/shutupaida/status/1116548553906774018?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Normalize pegging at all costs</a>.</p><p>If you’re going to come to the phone bank this weekend dressed as a romance heroine, might we suggest you drape <a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mantilla" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a mantilla</a> over your head and carry a pistol? You’ll be a dead ringer for Jessica Trent from <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/11/25/s0212-lord-of-scoundrels" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lord of Scoundrels</a>. Sarah was on a panel with Loretta Chase a few weeks ago, and I guess the only blessing of these Zoom times is watching these things online. IS THERE A LINK TO THIS?</p><p>Adriana has written a few pieces about immigration in romance, one <a href="https://www.bustle.com/p/immigrant-stories-in-romance-novels-are-revolutionary-we-need-more-of-them-19300979?scrlybrkr=d1a4d975" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">for Bustle</a> and one for <a href="https://remezcla.com/features/culture/romance-genre-afro-latinx-authors-challenges/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Remezcla</a>.</p><p>Just a quick primer, because we didn’t clarify these definitions on the podcast and <a href="https://www.pri.org/stories/2016-01-06/first-generation-second-immigrants-and-their-children-question-meaning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">it’s complicated,</a> because both terms are widely used to describe the same group of people--American-born children of immigrants. While Sarah grew up thinking of herself as <a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/first-generation" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"first-generation,"</a> many modern academics &amp; the Census label her as <a href="https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/02/07/second-generation-americans/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"second-generation."</a> Here's <a href="https://www.thoughtco.com/first-generation-immigrant-defined-1951570" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a cool article</a> on all the terms, and how they've evolved.</p><p>Also, it’s useful to know the difference between <a href="https://www.thoughtco.com/push-pull-factors-1434837" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">push and pull factors</a> that drive immigration.</p><p>If you want to read a terrific immigrant superhero story, Jen recommends a graphic novel she teaches to her 7th graders, <a href="https://amzn.to/3e0RGM2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Shadow Hero by Gene Yang.</a> She’s also really loved his recent release <a href="https://amzn.to/35LDBP4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dragon Hoops.</a></p><p>Adriana loves the podcast <a href="https://onbeing.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">On Being, hosted by Krista Tippet</a>. <a href="https://onbeing.org/programs/ocean-vuong-a-life-worthy-of-our-breath/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The episode with Ocean Vuong</a>, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/37TRLQu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">On Earth We’re Briefly Gorgeous</a>, features some interesting discussion of his own immigrant story.</p><p>We do not recommend reading American Dirt, but you should know <a href="https://www.vox.com/culture/2020/1/22/21075629/american-dirt-controversy-explained-jeanine-cummins-oprah-flatiron" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the story of how and why it was published</a>, some ideas about <a href="https://www.texasmonthly.com/the-culture/american-dirt-book-controversy/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">why publishing was so eager to sell</a> this particular story from a variety of <a href="https://www.latinorebels.com/2020/01/21/americandirtproblem/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Latinx authors and thinkers</a>.</p><p>When Adriana mentioned “the fun kind of thrust” she is referencing <a href="https://twitter.com/JennyNordbak/status/1145072209808912385?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jenny Nordbak’s best advice for finding a sex scene in a book: search for the word “thrust.”</a></p><p><a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/how-to-use-and-understand-diacritics-diacritical-marks" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Diacritical marks</a> are symbols added to letters which tells the speaker how to correctly pronounce the word. In <em>The Bride Test</em>, the same words have diacritical marks when spoken by Esme, a character newly immigrated from Vietnam, but do not have them when spoken by Vietnamese-Americans. Also, <a href="https://longreads.com/2013/11/05/why-children-of-immigrants-often-involuntarily-lose-a/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">language loss in the children of immigrant families</a> is a well-documented phenomena.</p><p><a href="https://deadline.com/2020/10/the-worst-best-man-project-x-entertainment-feature-rights-to-mia-sosa-bestseller-1234600411/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Worst Best Man has recently been optioned as a movie</a>!</p><p>Take a look at <a href="https://ltclanguagesolutions.com/blog/crashing-into-the-cultural-iceberg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the cultural iceberg</a>.</p><p><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/10/26/massive-protests-nigeria-explained/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nigeria and SARS</a> and <a href="https://www.bustle.com/life/sars-protests-nigeria" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">what you can do about it</a>.</p><p>Jeannette Ng’s piece, <a href="https://medium.com/@nettlefish/cultural-appropriation-in-books-that-are-kinda-meh-44c3491a2906" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Critiquing Cultural Appropriation in Books That Are Kinda Meh</a>, is about the pressure to research and how it undermines the lived experience of #OwnVoices authors.</p><p>Jen mentioned a piece in Kirkus called <a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/news-and-features/articles/100-books/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">100 books by...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fabulous Adriana Herrera is here for her fourth time to talk about Joy! We had a great time with one of the greatest people this week — talking about the American immigrant experience, how hope and bravery make for beautiful love stories, and listing a huge number of books that we love.</p><p>IMPORTANT UPDATE: Next Thursday, November 5th, we’ll be recording our 100th Episode LIVE on Zoom, and we want you to be there! Join us and special guests, for games, laughter, romance recommendations, and as much joy as you can handle. Come on…you know you want something to look forward to next week! Let it be this! <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/live-fated-mates-episode-100-tickets-126858518243?ref=estw%20ing%20https%3A%2F%2Fwww.eventbrite.com%2Fe%2Flive-fated-mates-episode-100-tickets-126858518243%3Fref%3Destw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sign up here</a>.</p><p>We’re putting read alongs on hold for a bit to spend the next few weeks hanging out with some of our favorite people and talking about books and tropes that give us joy, so we hope you’ll join us and keep a pen handy so you can add to your TBR list as needed!</p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!</p><p><strong>Fated States!</strong></p><p><a href="https://indivisible.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJwqf-isqDssHtKcpCtdiDdL5UJ8VixBGiG_" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Join us this Saturday, October 31st at 3pm Eastern</a> to flip the country blue! It’s easy, not scary, and there will be prizes! Sign up at the link, watch the video, and come hang out!</p><p>Remember: "Despair is not a strategy."</p><p>Donate Donate Donate (if you can). We're thrilled to support "<a href="https://secure.actblue.com/donate/getmitch" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Get Mitch or Die Trying</a>" via ActBlue -- donations to this are immediately split evenly between Senate candidates in elections</p><p><a href="https://swingleft.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Text bank</a></p><p><a href="https://indivisible.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJ0scOyvpjsiGN3XG_xoQaXkozaKXC85In6O" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Phone bank</a></p><p><a href="https://iwillvote.com/votebymail" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vote early by mail</a> if you are planning to vote by mail. At this point, the USPS is so slow that your best bet is to drive/walk/bike/rollerskate your ballot to the nearest polling dropbox rather than put it in a mailbox.</p><p><a href="https://www.vote.org/early-voting-calendar/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vote early in person if your state has early voting</a>.</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjA2nUUsGxw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stay fired up!</a></p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p>Welcome back, <a href="https://indivisible.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJwqf-isqDssHtKcpCtdiDdL5UJ8VixBGiG_" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adriana Herrera</a>! She’s been on a few times so far: <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/3-something-we-said-wicked-deeds-on-a-winters-night" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wicked Deeds on a Winter’s Night</a>, the <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/3/18/95-foodie-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">food romance episode</a>, and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/8/12/representation-of-trauma-survivors-in-romance-adriana-herrera-and-jen-prokop" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">she and Jen talked about trauma in romance</a>. This week, her March 2020 release American Sweethearts appeared on the <a href="https://best-books.publishersweekly.com/pw/best-books/2020" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Publisher’s Weekly Best of 2020 List</a>.</p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/shutupaida/status/1116548553906774018?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Normalize pegging at all costs</a>.</p><p>If you’re going to come to the phone bank this weekend dressed as a romance heroine, might we suggest you drape <a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mantilla" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a mantilla</a> over your head and carry a pistol? You’ll be a dead ringer for Jessica Trent from <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/11/25/s0212-lord-of-scoundrels" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lord of Scoundrels</a>. Sarah was on a panel with Loretta Chase a few weeks ago, and I guess the only blessing of these Zoom times is watching these things online. IS THERE A LINK TO THIS?</p><p>Adriana has written a few pieces about immigration in romance, one <a href="https://www.bustle.com/p/immigrant-stories-in-romance-novels-are-revolutionary-we-need-more-of-them-19300979?scrlybrkr=d1a4d975" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">for Bustle</a> and one for <a href="https://remezcla.com/features/culture/romance-genre-afro-latinx-authors-challenges/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Remezcla</a>.</p><p>Just a quick primer, because we didn’t clarify these definitions on the podcast and <a href="https://www.pri.org/stories/2016-01-06/first-generation-second-immigrants-and-their-children-question-meaning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">it’s complicated,</a> because both terms are widely used to describe the same group of people--American-born children of immigrants. While Sarah grew up thinking of herself as <a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/first-generation" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"first-generation,"</a> many modern academics &amp; the Census label her as <a href="https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/02/07/second-generation-americans/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"second-generation."</a> Here's <a href="https://www.thoughtco.com/first-generation-immigrant-defined-1951570" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a cool article</a> on all the terms, and how they've evolved.</p><p>Also, it’s useful to know the difference between <a href="https://www.thoughtco.com/push-pull-factors-1434837" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">push and pull factors</a> that drive immigration.</p><p>If you want to read a terrific immigrant superhero story, Jen recommends a graphic novel she teaches to her 7th graders, <a href="https://amzn.to/3e0RGM2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Shadow Hero by Gene Yang.</a> She’s also really loved his recent release <a href="https://amzn.to/35LDBP4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dragon Hoops.</a></p><p>Adriana loves the podcast <a href="https://onbeing.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">On Being, hosted by Krista Tippet</a>. <a href="https://onbeing.org/programs/ocean-vuong-a-life-worthy-of-our-breath/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The episode with Ocean Vuong</a>, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/37TRLQu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">On Earth We’re Briefly Gorgeous</a>, features some interesting discussion of his own immigrant story.</p><p>We do not recommend reading American Dirt, but you should know <a href="https://www.vox.com/culture/2020/1/22/21075629/american-dirt-controversy-explained-jeanine-cummins-oprah-flatiron" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the story of how and why it was published</a>, some ideas about <a href="https://www.texasmonthly.com/the-culture/american-dirt-book-controversy/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">why publishing was so eager to sell</a> this particular story from a variety of <a href="https://www.latinorebels.com/2020/01/21/americandirtproblem/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Latinx authors and thinkers</a>.</p><p>When Adriana mentioned “the fun kind of thrust” she is referencing <a href="https://twitter.com/JennyNordbak/status/1145072209808912385?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jenny Nordbak’s best advice for finding a sex scene in a book: search for the word “thrust.”</a></p><p><a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/how-to-use-and-understand-diacritics-diacritical-marks" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Diacritical marks</a> are symbols added to letters which tells the speaker how to correctly pronounce the word. In <em>The Bride Test</em>, the same words have diacritical marks when spoken by Esme, a character newly immigrated from Vietnam, but do not have them when spoken by Vietnamese-Americans. Also, <a href="https://longreads.com/2013/11/05/why-children-of-immigrants-often-involuntarily-lose-a/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">language loss in the children of immigrant families</a> is a well-documented phenomena.</p><p><a href="https://deadline.com/2020/10/the-worst-best-man-project-x-entertainment-feature-rights-to-mia-sosa-bestseller-1234600411/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Worst Best Man has recently been optioned as a movie</a>!</p><p>Take a look at <a href="https://ltclanguagesolutions.com/blog/crashing-into-the-cultural-iceberg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the cultural iceberg</a>.</p><p><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/10/26/massive-protests-nigeria-explained/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nigeria and SARS</a> and <a href="https://www.bustle.com/life/sars-protests-nigeria" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">what you can do about it</a>.</p><p>Jeannette Ng’s piece, <a href="https://medium.com/@nettlefish/cultural-appropriation-in-books-that-are-kinda-meh-44c3491a2906" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Critiquing Cultural Appropriation in Books That Are Kinda Meh</a>, is about the pressure to research and how it undermines the lived experience of #OwnVoices authors.</p><p>Jen mentioned a piece in Kirkus called <a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/news-and-features/articles/100-books/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">100 books by Cynthia Leitich Smith,</a> which argues “Before trying to write any character outside one’s lived experience, I recommend reading at least 100 books* by authors from that community. To start.” By the way, Smith is the author of a <a href="https://amzn.to/3e0SKzw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">terrific YA novel called Hearts Unbroken </a>if you’re interested.</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafael_Trujillo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Trujillo was terrible</a>! Don’t steal Adriana’s idea to write a story about the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_settlement_in_the_Dominican_Republic" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Japanese-Dominican people</a> who were living on the border of the Domenican Republic and Haiti.</p><p><a href="https://www.un.org/africarenewal/magazine/august-2015/changing-face-ethiopia" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ethiopia and its capital Addis Ababa</a> are fascinating places. Adriana and her partner lived there for five years. Also, <a href="https://www.york.ac.uk/news-and-events/features/addis-ababa-lion/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the lions of Ethiopia are genetically distinct from other lions.</a></p><p>When it comes to holiday shopping, <a href="https://bookriot.com/october-is-the-new-december/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">October is the new December.</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1320022176414781440?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah wrote a long thread of some of her favorite local indies that carry romance</a>. Support them if you can.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/10/25/s0312-the-immigrant-story-in-romance-with-adriana-herrera]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5f962f8b5c1997215c2b9590</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2020 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/cd1c34fd-600f-4d0b-b506-8a3e64e91cde/fated-mates-adriana-herrera.mp3" length="77362538" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:15:44</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>12</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>The fabulous Adriana Herrera is here for her fourth time to talk about Joy! We had a great time with one of the greatest people this week — talking about the American immigrant experience, how hope and bravery make for beautiful love stories, and listing a huge number of books that we love.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-cd1c34fd-600f-4d0b-b506-8a3e64e91cde.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S03.11: Comfort Reads with Dani Lacey</title><itunes:title>Comfort Reads with Dani Lacey</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It’s comfort read week! What makes a comfort read, why do we turn to them, what do we want from them, and why on earth do blue aliens fit the bill?! This week, we all need a comfort read, and we’re joined by Dani Lacey, host of Ice Planet Pod and Black Chick Lit Podcast, to talk about all things comfort reads!</p><p>We’re putting read alongs on hold for a bit to spend the next few weeks hanging out with some of our favorite people and talking about books and tropes that give us joy, so we hope you’ll join us and keep a pen handy so you can add to your TBR list as needed!</p><p>Also! please join us for a Fated States phonebanking session with Indivisible.org on Saturday — it’s so fun! We love seeing so many of your amazing faces there, hanging out, and lifting each other up through absolute anxiety! Please join us, fellow Fated Maters, and special guests for <a href="https://indivisible.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJwqf-isqDssHtKcpCtdiDdL5UJ8VixBGiG_" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated States Phonebanking Part 5 this Saturday, October 24th at 3pm Eastern to call South Carolina</a>! It’s easy, not scary, and there will be prizes!</p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome <a href="https://twitter.com/Dani_Lacey" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dani Lacey</a>, host of <a href="https://iceplanetpod.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ice Planet Pod</a> and <a href="https://blackchicklit.com/podcast/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Chick Lit podcast</a>. Black Chick Lit is a podcast Dani hosts with her friend Mollie, and the focus is books by and about Black women. Ice Planet Pod has different guests every week, and <a href="https://iceplanetpod.com/podcast/episode-12-barbarians-redemption-w-jen/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen has been</a> on and Sarah will be on!</li><li>Some of the specific Ice Planet Podcast episodes that Dani mentioned: she did one with <a href="http://iceplanetpod.com/podcast/episode-6-barbarians-mate-w-mollie-from-black-chick-lit/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">her friend Mollie from Black Chick Lit</a>, Jen talked about what would happen <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1257690693813886977?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">if Wedding Magazines existed</a> on that world, and the <a href="http://iceplanetpod.com/podcast/episode-15-barbarians-tease-with-katrina-jackson/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">latest release was with author Katrina Jackson</a>.</li><li><a href="https://techboomers.com/t/what-is-hoopla?scrlybrkr=3e58f160" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">All about Hoopla</a> and the difference between <a href="https://create.piktochart.com/output/21155188-hoopla-vs-overdrive" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hoopla vs Libby</a> (Overdrive). If your public library doesn't have Hoopla, it's probably becasue <a href="https://www.flls.org/ending-use-of-hoopla-faq/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">they can't afford it</a>.</li><li>You, too, can have <a href="https://bananaphone.io/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a banana phone</a>. Don't tell Sophie, but Sarah's definitely getting her one of these.</li><li><a href="https://ipb-universe.fandom.com/wiki/Sa-khui_Tribe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">In the Ice Planet books, the khui</a> is the magic thing that “resonates” to tell the two people that they are a destined to be together--it also allows these shipwrecked humans to survive the ice planet, and also to speak the same language.</li><li>A couple of times, Dani mentioned “Harlow’s book, and the title of that one is <a href="https://amzn.to/3dJ55br" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barbarian Mine.</a></li><li>Jen's friend <a href="https://twitter.com/julieannablock" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Julie</a> was a little worried about Chuck Tingle being sad when he released <a href="https://amzn.to/34cAbFa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chuck Tingle Pounded in The Butt by a Knockoff Book that Glorifies a Deadly Tragedy and Doesn't Prove Love is Real Then Accepting This as a Sad Side Effect of Making Wider Positive Impact as an Author</a>, but the following week it was <a href="https://amzn.to/3jdtxmA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mike Pence Pounded in the Butt by His Handsome Werefly</a>, so he’s probably fine.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3jdtxmA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Magic Mike XXL</a> is a <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2015/07/magic-mike-gender-sex-politics-roundtable/397385/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">pure, beautiful movie about men and their feelings</a>. We highly recommend it.</li><li>If you’re a fan of the <a href="https://amzn.to/3dK9zi6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stage Dive series</a>, there was a new novella that was released yesterday called <a href="https://amzn.to/3dHAPOd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love Song</a>. It’s the book about Adam Dillon, a character that the band mentored in later books in the series.</li><li><a href="https://gen.medium.com/aita-reveals-americas-sexist-underbelly-4609aa56658d" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">How the Reddit forum AITA (Am I the Asshole) reveals the sexism of everyday life.</a></li><li>The two audiobook companies are <a href="https://tantor.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tantor</a> and <a href="https://www.brilliancepublishing.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brilliance</a>, but with the<a href="https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20200104-audiobooks-the-rise-and-rise-of-the-books-you-dont-read" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> huge rise of popularity in audiobooks</a>, lots of audio in now <a href="https://authornews.penguinrandomhouse.com/behind-the-scenes-a-tour-of-penguin-random-houses-audio-studios/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">produced in house</a>.</li><li>When it comes to the Ice Planet audio, Dani loves the two narrators <a href="https://www.audible.com/author/Holly-Jackson/B00E6KAK7I" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hollie Jackson</a> and <a href="https://tantor.com/narrator/mason-lloyd.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mason Lloyd</a>. The Ice Home series, a spin-off of the Ice Planet Barbarians Series, has two new narrators <a href="http://seancrisden.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sean Crisden</a>and <a href="https://www.erinmoonactor.com/about" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Felicity Munroe</a>. But Jen recently listened to <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1314356368900583424?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a book narrated by Sean Crisden and it was awesome</a>. So we think you should give the Ice Home audio a try, Dani!</li><li><a href="http://www.welcometonightvale.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Welcome to Night Vale is a podcast</a> and also <a href="https://amzn.to/3keq9sY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a book</a>.</li></ul><br/><h2>Books and Series We Mentioned: </h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/35g46f3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ice Planet Barbarians</a> by Ruby Dixon </li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3o9H3v8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barbarian’s Mate</a> by Ruby Dixon</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3oc4iVe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Boyfriend Project</a> by Farrah Rochon </li><li>Grace Goodwin's <a href="https://amzn.to/2IJQz7P" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Interstellar Bride Series</a> </li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2FOzF76" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barbarian Mine</a> by Ruby Dixon </li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3m6HioK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Heart of Blood and Ashes</a> by Milla Vane </li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3dJWa9H" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sweet Ruin</a> by Kresley Cole </li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3o7Gcel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lead </a>by Kylie Scott </li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/37oFLq1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dreaming of You</a> by Lisa Kleypas </li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3ocZsHe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Again the Magic</a> by Lisa Kleypas </li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2HiV4G3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Forbidden</a> by Beverly Jenkins </li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2ISHji5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Chance at Love</a> by Beverly Jenkins </li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2HkbIF1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The AI Who Loved Me</a> by Alyssa Cole </li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3kbNFGV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brothers Sinster Series</a> by Courtney Milan </li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2T8Uzkk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Her Halloween Treat</a> by Tiffany Reisz </li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3dJ9w5Y" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love All Year</a> a holiday anthology </li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2FOAcWE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Halloween Boo</a> by Sarah Spade </li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2FLAmxT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Winning Season</a> by Rochelle Alers </li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3dV8Wm5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hidden Legacy Series</a> by Ilona Andrews </li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/31qA5bw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jack Reacher Series</a> by Lee Child </li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3dHtqyt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Welcome to Night Vale</a> is a book <a href="http://www.welcometonightvale.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer"...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s comfort read week! What makes a comfort read, why do we turn to them, what do we want from them, and why on earth do blue aliens fit the bill?! This week, we all need a comfort read, and we’re joined by Dani Lacey, host of Ice Planet Pod and Black Chick Lit Podcast, to talk about all things comfort reads!</p><p>We’re putting read alongs on hold for a bit to spend the next few weeks hanging out with some of our favorite people and talking about books and tropes that give us joy, so we hope you’ll join us and keep a pen handy so you can add to your TBR list as needed!</p><p>Also! please join us for a Fated States phonebanking session with Indivisible.org on Saturday — it’s so fun! We love seeing so many of your amazing faces there, hanging out, and lifting each other up through absolute anxiety! Please join us, fellow Fated Maters, and special guests for <a href="https://indivisible.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJwqf-isqDssHtKcpCtdiDdL5UJ8VixBGiG_" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated States Phonebanking Part 5 this Saturday, October 24th at 3pm Eastern to call South Carolina</a>! It’s easy, not scary, and there will be prizes!</p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome <a href="https://twitter.com/Dani_Lacey" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dani Lacey</a>, host of <a href="https://iceplanetpod.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ice Planet Pod</a> and <a href="https://blackchicklit.com/podcast/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Chick Lit podcast</a>. Black Chick Lit is a podcast Dani hosts with her friend Mollie, and the focus is books by and about Black women. Ice Planet Pod has different guests every week, and <a href="https://iceplanetpod.com/podcast/episode-12-barbarians-redemption-w-jen/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen has been</a> on and Sarah will be on!</li><li>Some of the specific Ice Planet Podcast episodes that Dani mentioned: she did one with <a href="http://iceplanetpod.com/podcast/episode-6-barbarians-mate-w-mollie-from-black-chick-lit/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">her friend Mollie from Black Chick Lit</a>, Jen talked about what would happen <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1257690693813886977?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">if Wedding Magazines existed</a> on that world, and the <a href="http://iceplanetpod.com/podcast/episode-15-barbarians-tease-with-katrina-jackson/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">latest release was with author Katrina Jackson</a>.</li><li><a href="https://techboomers.com/t/what-is-hoopla?scrlybrkr=3e58f160" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">All about Hoopla</a> and the difference between <a href="https://create.piktochart.com/output/21155188-hoopla-vs-overdrive" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hoopla vs Libby</a> (Overdrive). If your public library doesn't have Hoopla, it's probably becasue <a href="https://www.flls.org/ending-use-of-hoopla-faq/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">they can't afford it</a>.</li><li>You, too, can have <a href="https://bananaphone.io/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a banana phone</a>. Don't tell Sophie, but Sarah's definitely getting her one of these.</li><li><a href="https://ipb-universe.fandom.com/wiki/Sa-khui_Tribe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">In the Ice Planet books, the khui</a> is the magic thing that “resonates” to tell the two people that they are a destined to be together--it also allows these shipwrecked humans to survive the ice planet, and also to speak the same language.</li><li>A couple of times, Dani mentioned “Harlow’s book, and the title of that one is <a href="https://amzn.to/3dJ55br" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barbarian Mine.</a></li><li>Jen's friend <a href="https://twitter.com/julieannablock" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Julie</a> was a little worried about Chuck Tingle being sad when he released <a href="https://amzn.to/34cAbFa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chuck Tingle Pounded in The Butt by a Knockoff Book that Glorifies a Deadly Tragedy and Doesn't Prove Love is Real Then Accepting This as a Sad Side Effect of Making Wider Positive Impact as an Author</a>, but the following week it was <a href="https://amzn.to/3jdtxmA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mike Pence Pounded in the Butt by His Handsome Werefly</a>, so he’s probably fine.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3jdtxmA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Magic Mike XXL</a> is a <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2015/07/magic-mike-gender-sex-politics-roundtable/397385/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">pure, beautiful movie about men and their feelings</a>. We highly recommend it.</li><li>If you’re a fan of the <a href="https://amzn.to/3dK9zi6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stage Dive series</a>, there was a new novella that was released yesterday called <a href="https://amzn.to/3dHAPOd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love Song</a>. It’s the book about Adam Dillon, a character that the band mentored in later books in the series.</li><li><a href="https://gen.medium.com/aita-reveals-americas-sexist-underbelly-4609aa56658d" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">How the Reddit forum AITA (Am I the Asshole) reveals the sexism of everyday life.</a></li><li>The two audiobook companies are <a href="https://tantor.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tantor</a> and <a href="https://www.brilliancepublishing.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brilliance</a>, but with the<a href="https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20200104-audiobooks-the-rise-and-rise-of-the-books-you-dont-read" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> huge rise of popularity in audiobooks</a>, lots of audio in now <a href="https://authornews.penguinrandomhouse.com/behind-the-scenes-a-tour-of-penguin-random-houses-audio-studios/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">produced in house</a>.</li><li>When it comes to the Ice Planet audio, Dani loves the two narrators <a href="https://www.audible.com/author/Holly-Jackson/B00E6KAK7I" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hollie Jackson</a> and <a href="https://tantor.com/narrator/mason-lloyd.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mason Lloyd</a>. The Ice Home series, a spin-off of the Ice Planet Barbarians Series, has two new narrators <a href="http://seancrisden.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sean Crisden</a>and <a href="https://www.erinmoonactor.com/about" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Felicity Munroe</a>. But Jen recently listened to <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1314356368900583424?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a book narrated by Sean Crisden and it was awesome</a>. So we think you should give the Ice Home audio a try, Dani!</li><li><a href="http://www.welcometonightvale.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Welcome to Night Vale is a podcast</a> and also <a href="https://amzn.to/3keq9sY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a book</a>.</li></ul><br/><h2>Books and Series We Mentioned: </h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/35g46f3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ice Planet Barbarians</a> by Ruby Dixon </li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3o9H3v8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barbarian’s Mate</a> by Ruby Dixon</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3oc4iVe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Boyfriend Project</a> by Farrah Rochon </li><li>Grace Goodwin's <a href="https://amzn.to/2IJQz7P" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Interstellar Bride Series</a> </li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2FOzF76" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barbarian Mine</a> by Ruby Dixon </li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3m6HioK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Heart of Blood and Ashes</a> by Milla Vane </li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3dJWa9H" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sweet Ruin</a> by Kresley Cole </li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3o7Gcel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lead </a>by Kylie Scott </li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/37oFLq1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dreaming of You</a> by Lisa Kleypas </li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3ocZsHe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Again the Magic</a> by Lisa Kleypas </li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2HiV4G3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Forbidden</a> by Beverly Jenkins </li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2ISHji5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Chance at Love</a> by Beverly Jenkins </li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2HkbIF1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The AI Who Loved Me</a> by Alyssa Cole </li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3kbNFGV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brothers Sinster Series</a> by Courtney Milan </li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2T8Uzkk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Her Halloween Treat</a> by Tiffany Reisz </li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3dJ9w5Y" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love All Year</a> a holiday anthology </li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2FOAcWE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Halloween Boo</a> by Sarah Spade </li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2FLAmxT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Winning Season</a> by Rochelle Alers </li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3dV8Wm5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hidden Legacy Series</a> by Ilona Andrews </li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/31qA5bw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jack Reacher Series</a> by Lee Child </li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3dHtqyt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Welcome to Night Vale</a> is a book <a href="http://www.welcometonightvale.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">based on the podcast</a></li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/10/18/s0311-comfort-reads-with-dani-lacey </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/10/18/s0311-comfort-reads-with-dani-lacey]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5f8cdbcb6d171457c14bb06a</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2020 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/15189e20-317d-4356-8c8b-857de0acd016/dani-final.mp3" length="68188288" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:06:15</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>11</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>It’s comfort read week! What makes a comfort read, why do we turn to them, what do we want from them, and why on earth do blue aliens fit the bill?! This week, we all need a comfort read, and we’re joined by Dani Lacey, host of Ice Planet Pod and Black Chick Lit Podcast, to talk about all things comfort reads!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-15189e20-317d-4356-8c8b-857de0acd016.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S03.10: Mafia Romance Novels with Nisha Sharma</title><itunes:title>Mafia Romance Interstitial with Nisha Sharma</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This week, as part of joy month, we’re joined by Nisha Sharma, author of The Takeover Effect and The Legal Affair, to talk about her favorite trope — Mafia Romances! We talk about why organized crime works in romance, fill your TBR to the brim…and share some real life mafia stories. Or, at least, Sarah does. It’s a lot.</p><p>We’re putting read alongs on hold for a bit to spend the next few weeks hanging out with some of our favorite people and talking about books and tropes that give us joy, so we hope you’ll join us and keep a pen handy so you can add to your TBR list as needed!</p><p>Also! please join us for a Fated States phonebanking session with Indivisible.org on Saturday — it’s so fun! We love seeing so many of your amazing faces there, hanging out, and lifting each other up through absolute anxiety! Please join us, fellow Fated Maters, and special guests for <a href="https://indivisible.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJUtcOugrDwsE9wnL8_MmP8-p4VtZIaQPhZa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated States Phonebanking Part 4 this Saturday, October 17th at 3pm Eastern to call Iowa</a>! It’s easy, not scary, and there will be prizes!</p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/09/29/brooklyn-absentee-envelope-election-ny/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nisha Sharma</a>! She is the author of some of favorites: the YA romance <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/pennsylvania-naked-ballots/2020/09/24/a559a380-fe9c-11ea-b555-4d71a9254f4b_story.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">My So Called Bollywood Life</a>, and <a href="https://amzn.to/33W7Cfm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Singh family trilogy</a>.</li><li>The Fifty Shades movies are <a href="https://www.vulture.com/2017/02/fifty-shades-darker-is-telling-a-big-lie-about-lipstick.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lying about lipstick.</a></li><li>Maybe you’d like to learn more about organized crime in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriarca_crime_family?scrlybrkr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rhode Island</a>, <a href="https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2015/07/notable_organized_crime_figure.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleveland</a>, and <a href="https://www.inquirer.com/philly/news/philadelphia_casino_license/226528041.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scranton</a>. Sarah grew up in Rhode Island and recommends you listen to <a href="https://www.crimetownshow.com/episode-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Crimetown</a> if you're interested in learning more about how far-reaching the mob is there.</li><li><a href="https://auto.howstuffworks.com/car-crusher.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">How car crushers work</a>.</li><li>When it comes to Capone, we recommend the <a href="https://gangstersandghosts.com/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwoJX8BRCZARIsAEWBFMK_CtPNuKRsBC4z4jLu9Q0HtVuBVvIT9t5uuJJVFvASJgvUNiZ_LgUaAi9jEALw_wcB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chicago tour</a> (if life ever returns to normal) but not <a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/movies/2020/05/12/capone-fact-check-true-story-tom-hardy-gangster-movie/3113181001/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the movie with Tom Hardy</a>.</li><li>Nisha mentioned a 1970s Bollywood movie. It’s called <a href="https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/photo-features/sholay-interesting-facts-about-the-iconic-film/sholay-interesting-facts-about-the-iconic-film/photostory/48481530.cms" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sholay</a>, and Nisha said, “Technically it was like this small village bad guy...think old westerns but he had like a gang of hoodlums.”</li><li>The big <a href="https://ew.com/gallery/best-westerns/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Western movies</a> seem to pop up every ten years, and <a href="https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/brokeback-mountain-2005" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brokeback Mountain</a> was 2005!</li><li>The <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show/mafia-romance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">list of mafia romance from Goodreads</a> is here, and <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/30901.Best_Gay_Romance_Mafia_Yakuza_Organized_Crime_" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the queer mafia romance</a> list is here.</li><li><a href="https://www.sensesofcinema.com/2019/feature-articles/this-thing-of-ours-a-womans-place-in-the-gangster-genre/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Does your gender determine how you relate to mafia movies, books, and TV shows</a>? <a href="https://www.unodc.org/documents/e4j/FINAL_Module_15_Gender_and_Organized_Crime_25_Apr_2019.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Or if you participate in real life?</a></li><li>Maybe you want to watch <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weeds_(TV_series)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Weeds</a> or <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_(2000_film)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Traffic</a> and see some kickass women who are antiheroes?</li><li>Erin from <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/learning-tropes-podcast-for-romance-novel-veterans/id1440272585" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learning the Tropes</a> is on the hunt for books that have heroines that are named Erin, so let her know if you’ve read any. Jen’s list is Ivan and an old Loveswept by Barbara Boswell called <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/811330.Sharing_Secrets" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sharing Secrets</a> -- the hero’s name is Rad Ramsey!</li><li>Speaking of <a href="https://amzn.to/2H76Kez" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ivan and Erin</a>, while working on show notes for this episode, Jen discovered that a second story with these two is coming out in a few weeks!</li><li>It is MMA fighting, which stands for <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed_martial_arts?scrlybrkr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mixed Martial Arts</a>.</li><li>We did a deep dive episode on Kresley Cole's The Master in Season 1. <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/17/15-the-master" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Listen to it here</a>.</li><li>Jen’s love of Russian mobsters started with Viggo Mortensen in <a href="https://amzn.to/3jY86H4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Eastern Promises</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.vulture.com/2014/12/sons-of-anarchy-series-finale-review-matt-zoller-seitz.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sons of Anarchy </a>actually does predate the MC romance. The TV show aired from 2008 - 2014, and one of the first MC romances was <a href="https://amzn.to/3iVROgS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Motorcycle Man</a> (2012) by Kristen Ashley. After Sons of Anarchy ended, <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show/motorcycle-club-romance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the MC romance genre did grow exponentially</a>, including books like <a href="https://amzn.to/316iYeR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Reaper’s Property </a>by Joanna Wylde (2016).</li><li>Jen said the Molly O’Keefe book with the mafia guy and the secret baby was Bad Neighbor, but it’s actually <a href="https://amzn.to/3k051qi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Baby Come Back</a>. You should just go ahead and read them both.</li><li>All about the <a href="https://www.ancient.eu/article/209/theseus--the-minotaur-more-than-a-myth/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">myth of the minotaur</a>.</li><li><a href="https://variety.com/2020/film/news/oscars-inclusion-standards-best-picture-diversity-1234762727/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Oscars released a diversity rubric</a>.</li><li><a href="https://archive.thinkprogress.org/russian-villain-pop-culture-3349c509d908/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The big, bad Russians influenced American media for decades</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/2018/11/27/18115230/3ve-methbot-operation-eversion-online-ad-fraud-arrest-indictment" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Online Advertising</a> is the new <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cement_shoes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">cement shoes</a>.</li><li>Sarah learned about <a href="https://www.moneytaskforce.com/money/what-is-money-laundering/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">money laundering</a> because of pinball machines. <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/10/09/us/donald-trump-taxes-las-vegas.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Today's kids get to learn about it because of the President.</a> Sure.</li></ul><br/><h2>Books Mentioned in the Podcast</h2><ul><li>My So Called Bollywood Life by Nisha Sharma</li><li>The Singh Family Trilogy by Nisha Sharma</li><li>The Professional by Kresley Cole</li><li>The Master by Kresley Cole</li><li>The Player by Kresley Cole</li><li>The Bastard’s Bargain by Katee Robert</li><li>The Marriage Contract by Katee Robert</li><li>The Corruption Series by CD Reiss</li><li>Ivan by Roxie Riveria</li><li>Lies You Tell by LaQuette</li><li>The Fighter’s Prize by Jessa Kane</li><li>Baby Come Back by Molly O’Keefe</li><li>The Devil of Downtown by Joanna Shupe</li><li>Dark Mafia Prince by Annika Martin</li><li>Luca by Theodora Taylor</li><li>Judgment Road by Christine Feehan</li><li>Turbulent Sea by Christine Feehan</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/10/13/s0310-mafia-romance-interstitial-with-nisha-sharma </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, as part of joy month, we’re joined by Nisha Sharma, author of The Takeover Effect and The Legal Affair, to talk about her favorite trope — Mafia Romances! We talk about why organized crime works in romance, fill your TBR to the brim…and share some real life mafia stories. Or, at least, Sarah does. It’s a lot.</p><p>We’re putting read alongs on hold for a bit to spend the next few weeks hanging out with some of our favorite people and talking about books and tropes that give us joy, so we hope you’ll join us and keep a pen handy so you can add to your TBR list as needed!</p><p>Also! please join us for a Fated States phonebanking session with Indivisible.org on Saturday — it’s so fun! We love seeing so many of your amazing faces there, hanging out, and lifting each other up through absolute anxiety! Please join us, fellow Fated Maters, and special guests for <a href="https://indivisible.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJUtcOugrDwsE9wnL8_MmP8-p4VtZIaQPhZa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated States Phonebanking Part 4 this Saturday, October 17th at 3pm Eastern to call Iowa</a>! It’s easy, not scary, and there will be prizes!</p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/09/29/brooklyn-absentee-envelope-election-ny/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nisha Sharma</a>! She is the author of some of favorites: the YA romance <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/pennsylvania-naked-ballots/2020/09/24/a559a380-fe9c-11ea-b555-4d71a9254f4b_story.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">My So Called Bollywood Life</a>, and <a href="https://amzn.to/33W7Cfm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Singh family trilogy</a>.</li><li>The Fifty Shades movies are <a href="https://www.vulture.com/2017/02/fifty-shades-darker-is-telling-a-big-lie-about-lipstick.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lying about lipstick.</a></li><li>Maybe you’d like to learn more about organized crime in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriarca_crime_family?scrlybrkr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rhode Island</a>, <a href="https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2015/07/notable_organized_crime_figure.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleveland</a>, and <a href="https://www.inquirer.com/philly/news/philadelphia_casino_license/226528041.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scranton</a>. Sarah grew up in Rhode Island and recommends you listen to <a href="https://www.crimetownshow.com/episode-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Crimetown</a> if you're interested in learning more about how far-reaching the mob is there.</li><li><a href="https://auto.howstuffworks.com/car-crusher.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">How car crushers work</a>.</li><li>When it comes to Capone, we recommend the <a href="https://gangstersandghosts.com/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwoJX8BRCZARIsAEWBFMK_CtPNuKRsBC4z4jLu9Q0HtVuBVvIT9t5uuJJVFvASJgvUNiZ_LgUaAi9jEALw_wcB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chicago tour</a> (if life ever returns to normal) but not <a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/movies/2020/05/12/capone-fact-check-true-story-tom-hardy-gangster-movie/3113181001/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the movie with Tom Hardy</a>.</li><li>Nisha mentioned a 1970s Bollywood movie. It’s called <a href="https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/photo-features/sholay-interesting-facts-about-the-iconic-film/sholay-interesting-facts-about-the-iconic-film/photostory/48481530.cms" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sholay</a>, and Nisha said, “Technically it was like this small village bad guy...think old westerns but he had like a gang of hoodlums.”</li><li>The big <a href="https://ew.com/gallery/best-westerns/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Western movies</a> seem to pop up every ten years, and <a href="https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/brokeback-mountain-2005" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brokeback Mountain</a> was 2005!</li><li>The <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show/mafia-romance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">list of mafia romance from Goodreads</a> is here, and <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/30901.Best_Gay_Romance_Mafia_Yakuza_Organized_Crime_" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the queer mafia romance</a> list is here.</li><li><a href="https://www.sensesofcinema.com/2019/feature-articles/this-thing-of-ours-a-womans-place-in-the-gangster-genre/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Does your gender determine how you relate to mafia movies, books, and TV shows</a>? <a href="https://www.unodc.org/documents/e4j/FINAL_Module_15_Gender_and_Organized_Crime_25_Apr_2019.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Or if you participate in real life?</a></li><li>Maybe you want to watch <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weeds_(TV_series)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Weeds</a> or <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_(2000_film)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Traffic</a> and see some kickass women who are antiheroes?</li><li>Erin from <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/learning-tropes-podcast-for-romance-novel-veterans/id1440272585" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learning the Tropes</a> is on the hunt for books that have heroines that are named Erin, so let her know if you’ve read any. Jen’s list is Ivan and an old Loveswept by Barbara Boswell called <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/811330.Sharing_Secrets" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sharing Secrets</a> -- the hero’s name is Rad Ramsey!</li><li>Speaking of <a href="https://amzn.to/2H76Kez" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ivan and Erin</a>, while working on show notes for this episode, Jen discovered that a second story with these two is coming out in a few weeks!</li><li>It is MMA fighting, which stands for <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed_martial_arts?scrlybrkr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mixed Martial Arts</a>.</li><li>We did a deep dive episode on Kresley Cole's The Master in Season 1. <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/17/15-the-master" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Listen to it here</a>.</li><li>Jen’s love of Russian mobsters started with Viggo Mortensen in <a href="https://amzn.to/3jY86H4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Eastern Promises</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.vulture.com/2014/12/sons-of-anarchy-series-finale-review-matt-zoller-seitz.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sons of Anarchy </a>actually does predate the MC romance. The TV show aired from 2008 - 2014, and one of the first MC romances was <a href="https://amzn.to/3iVROgS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Motorcycle Man</a> (2012) by Kristen Ashley. After Sons of Anarchy ended, <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show/motorcycle-club-romance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the MC romance genre did grow exponentially</a>, including books like <a href="https://amzn.to/316iYeR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Reaper’s Property </a>by Joanna Wylde (2016).</li><li>Jen said the Molly O’Keefe book with the mafia guy and the secret baby was Bad Neighbor, but it’s actually <a href="https://amzn.to/3k051qi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Baby Come Back</a>. You should just go ahead and read them both.</li><li>All about the <a href="https://www.ancient.eu/article/209/theseus--the-minotaur-more-than-a-myth/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">myth of the minotaur</a>.</li><li><a href="https://variety.com/2020/film/news/oscars-inclusion-standards-best-picture-diversity-1234762727/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Oscars released a diversity rubric</a>.</li><li><a href="https://archive.thinkprogress.org/russian-villain-pop-culture-3349c509d908/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The big, bad Russians influenced American media for decades</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/2018/11/27/18115230/3ve-methbot-operation-eversion-online-ad-fraud-arrest-indictment" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Online Advertising</a> is the new <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cement_shoes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">cement shoes</a>.</li><li>Sarah learned about <a href="https://www.moneytaskforce.com/money/what-is-money-laundering/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">money laundering</a> because of pinball machines. <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/10/09/us/donald-trump-taxes-las-vegas.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Today's kids get to learn about it because of the President.</a> Sure.</li></ul><br/><h2>Books Mentioned in the Podcast</h2><ul><li>My So Called Bollywood Life by Nisha Sharma</li><li>The Singh Family Trilogy by Nisha Sharma</li><li>The Professional by Kresley Cole</li><li>The Master by Kresley Cole</li><li>The Player by Kresley Cole</li><li>The Bastard’s Bargain by Katee Robert</li><li>The Marriage Contract by Katee Robert</li><li>The Corruption Series by CD Reiss</li><li>Ivan by Roxie Riveria</li><li>Lies You Tell by LaQuette</li><li>The Fighter’s Prize by Jessa Kane</li><li>Baby Come Back by Molly O’Keefe</li><li>The Devil of Downtown by Joanna Shupe</li><li>Dark Mafia Prince by Annika Martin</li><li>Luca by Theodora Taylor</li><li>Judgment Road by Christine Feehan</li><li>Turbulent Sea by Christine Feehan</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/10/13/s0310-mafia-romance-interstitial-with-nisha-sharma </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/10/13/s0310-mafia-romance-interstitial-with-nisha-sharma]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5f85caf01ecb715bf481b09d</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2020 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/38285996-6565-4e92-825c-b09aac28f83f/fated-mates-nisha-sharma-final-revb.mp3" length="88823620" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:27:48</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>10</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>This week, as part of joy month, we’re joined by Nisha Sharma, author of The Takeover Effect and The Legal Affair, to talk about her favorite trope — Mafia Romances! We talk about why organized crime works in romance, fill your TBR to the brim…and share some real life mafia stories. Or, at least, Sarah does. It’s a lot.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-38285996-6565-4e92-825c-b09aac28f83f.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S03.09: Christina Lauren on FanFiction and Romance: Blissward is How it Should Be</title><itunes:title>Christina Lauren on FanFiction and Romance: Blissward is How it Should Be</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It’s joy month! We’ve got two of our very favorites with us — Christina Lauren is here with us to discuss fan fiction, romance, their romance origin stories, what they love about fic and how fic makes romance better! We talk about about a thousand books and authors, and do a little giggling too, so strap in!</p><p>We’re putting read alongs on hold for a bit to spend the next few weeks hanging out with some of our favorite people and talking about books and tropes that give us joy, so we hope you’ll join us and keep a pen handy so you can add to your TBR list as needed!</p><p>Also! please join us for a Fated States phonebanking session with Indivisible.org on Saturday — it’s so fun! We love seeing so many of your amazing faces there, hanging out, and lifting each other up through absolute anxiety! Please join us, fellow Fated Maters, and special guests for <a href="https://indivisible.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJwvf-mhqD4vEtE-YurB2sIb1rfTpRUl29CX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated States Phonebanking Part 3 this Saturday, October 10th at 3pm Eastern to call Wisconsin</a>! It’s easy, not scary, and there will be prizes!</p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!</p><p><strong>Fated States!</strong></p><p><a href="https://indivisible.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJwvf-mhqD4vEtE-YurB2sIb1rfTpRUl29CX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Join us this Saturday, October 10th at 3pm Eastern</a> to call Wisconsin and make sure it turns up blue! It’s easy, not scary, and there will be prizes! Sign up at the link, watch the video, and come hang out!</p><p>Remember: "Despair is not a strategy."</p><p><a href="https://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Call Your Senators</a>. Tell them you want "the McConnell Rule" enforced.</p><p>Donate Donate Donate (if you can). We're thrilled to support "<a href="https://secure.actblue.com/donate/getmitch" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Get Mitch or Die Trying</a>" via ActBlue -- donations to this are immediately split evenly between Senate candidates in elections</p><p><a href="https://swingleft.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Text bank</a></p><p><a href="https://indivisible.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJ0scOyvpjsiGN3XG_xoQaXkozaKXC85In6O" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Phone bank</a></p><p><a href="https://postcardstovoters.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Write postcards</a></p><p><a href="https://iwillvote.com/votebymail" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vote early by mail</a> if you are planning to vote by mail. Be sure to check that your ballot has all the correct information, and is returned accorting to the instructions (this goes double for people in <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/09/29/brooklyn-absentee-envelope-election-ny/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">NYC</a> and <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/pennsylvania-naked-ballots/2020/09/24/a559a380-fe9c-11ea-b555-4d71a9254f4b_story.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pennsylvania</a>).</p><p><a href="https://www.vote.org/early-voting-calendar/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vote early in person if your state has early voting</a>.</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjA2nUUsGxw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stay fired up</a>!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Christina Lauren has a new, delightful holiday romance out this week! Find <em>In a Holidaze</em> at <a href="https://amzn.to/3nzyrOa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/in-a-holidaze-christina-lauren/1136765315" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/in-a-holidaze" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/in-a-holidaze/id1497590717?itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_toolbox&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781982123949" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">at your local indie</a>.</li><li>When we recorded, the wildfire situation was <a href="https://indivisible.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJwvf-mhqD4vEtE-YurB2sIb1rfTpRUl29CX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">particularly grim in California</a>, and it’s still <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/09/29/brooklyn-absentee-envelope-election-ny/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a huge problem facing many Western states.</a> We hope you're all being safe out there.</li><li>A brief overview of <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/pennsylvania-naked-ballots/2020/09/24/a559a380-fe9c-11ea-b555-4d71a9254f4b_story.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CLo’s story from fandom to bestselling authors</a>. The first of their published books came from Christina's fic "The Office," and was published as <a href="https://amzn.to/30DYRED" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Beautiful Bastard</em></a>. Sarah loves it a lot.</li><li><a href="https://variety.com/2020/film/news/wonder-woman-1984-delayed-christmas-1234766774/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wonder Woman 1984 has been postponed</a> because of COVID, and according to the director the film is best seen in a theater. It is not because <a href="https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2020/09/09/robert-pattinson-the-batman-coronavirus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Robert Pattinson got COVID</a> (He's <a href="https://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/robert-pattinsons-batman-resumes-after-his-covid-19-battle/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">back to business now</a>). Sarah loves the preview of the <a href="https://youtu.be/NLOp_6uPccQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">new Batman movie</a>.</li><li>Our love of Days of Lives couples <a href="https://youtu.be/tfOsHhg6WUw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jack &amp; Jennifer</a> and <a href="https://youtu.be/mvXlMW2Odnc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Patch &amp; Kayla</a> is eternal and everlasting. (Ps. Jen's favorite scene is not in that video, her search continues.)</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/JackplusJenn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Twilight fandom was vast</a>, as we discussed in this episode. And there are <a href="https://twitter.com/ZREllor/status/1312771775185530886?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">important reasons why many folks are</a> drawn to fandom. Last summer, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/tv/CCRzMREgE8N/?igshid=p6qaee1limpw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alexis Daria and Adriana Herrera talked about fanfiction and fandom on Instagram Live</a>, and it's a great watch.</li><li>Christina and Lauren mentioned “canon” and “AU” and AO3 and livejournal and fandom bootcamp and <a href="https://medium.com/@joannasmith008/fanfiction-428029544a12" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">maybe you want a primer</a> on some fanfic terms.</li><li>Maybe you also need a primer on a <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/10/13/s026-cinnamon-roll-romance-heroes-interstitial-with-andie-christopher" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">cinnamon roll character</a>.</li><li>These hugely popular romance writers came up through fanfic: Sally Thorne, Alice Clayton, Nina Bocci, Tara Sue Me, Amanda Weaver, Rebekah Weatherspoon, Helena Hunting, Daisy Prescott, EL James, and Ruth Clampett. Present-tense, stream of consciousness flow, and intense character work are some of <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2019/10/how-fanfiction-improves-writing/599197/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the hallmarks of fandom writing, and some of those stylistic choices</a> have influenced mainstream fiction in multiple genres, including romance.</li><li>Did you miss the community experience of <a href="https://amzn.to/3iJj6XK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Submissive</em></a>? Lucky for you, it's now available as a stand alone novel, and the next books in the series <em>The Dominant</em> and <em>The Training</em> also started as fic.</li><li>Christina and Lauren and Nina Bocci worked on <a href="https://fanlore.org/wiki/The_Fandom_Gives_Back" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Fandom Gives Back fundraiser</a> to benefit <a href="https://www.alexslemonade.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alex’s Lemonade Stand</a>.</li><li>Jen said she loves <a href="https://amzn.to/3iA7ea7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Beautiful Player</em></a>, but honestly no one will be surprised that she got the title wrong and her real favorite is <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Beautiful-Stranger-Book-2-ebook/dp/B00A0BHS8Q/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&amp;keywords=beautiful%20stranger&amp;qid=1602031159&amp;s=digital-text&amp;sr=1-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Beautiful Stranger</em></a>. Just read all of them. You won't be disappointed.</li><li>The question of <a href="https://reporter.rit.edu/views/fanfiction-legal-battle-creativity#:~:text=The%20legality%20of%20fanfiction%20falls,original%2C%20previously%20created%20first%20work." rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">who owns these stories and the legalities of fanfic is so interesting</a>, and specifically <a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/hayleycuccinello/2017/02/10/fifty-shades-of-green-how-fanfiction-went-from-dirty-little-secret-to-money-machine/#5d1c6a3d264c" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the history of Fifty Shades of Grey as Fanfic</a>.</li><li>As promised, a list of CLo recommend fics:</li><li><a href="https://www.fanfiction.net/s/4901517/1/Tropic-of-Virgo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tropic of Virgo</a> by...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s joy month! We’ve got two of our very favorites with us — Christina Lauren is here with us to discuss fan fiction, romance, their romance origin stories, what they love about fic and how fic makes romance better! We talk about about a thousand books and authors, and do a little giggling too, so strap in!</p><p>We’re putting read alongs on hold for a bit to spend the next few weeks hanging out with some of our favorite people and talking about books and tropes that give us joy, so we hope you’ll join us and keep a pen handy so you can add to your TBR list as needed!</p><p>Also! please join us for a Fated States phonebanking session with Indivisible.org on Saturday — it’s so fun! We love seeing so many of your amazing faces there, hanging out, and lifting each other up through absolute anxiety! Please join us, fellow Fated Maters, and special guests for <a href="https://indivisible.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJwvf-mhqD4vEtE-YurB2sIb1rfTpRUl29CX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated States Phonebanking Part 3 this Saturday, October 10th at 3pm Eastern to call Wisconsin</a>! It’s easy, not scary, and there will be prizes!</p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!</p><p><strong>Fated States!</strong></p><p><a href="https://indivisible.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJwvf-mhqD4vEtE-YurB2sIb1rfTpRUl29CX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Join us this Saturday, October 10th at 3pm Eastern</a> to call Wisconsin and make sure it turns up blue! It’s easy, not scary, and there will be prizes! Sign up at the link, watch the video, and come hang out!</p><p>Remember: "Despair is not a strategy."</p><p><a href="https://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Call Your Senators</a>. Tell them you want "the McConnell Rule" enforced.</p><p>Donate Donate Donate (if you can). We're thrilled to support "<a href="https://secure.actblue.com/donate/getmitch" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Get Mitch or Die Trying</a>" via ActBlue -- donations to this are immediately split evenly between Senate candidates in elections</p><p><a href="https://swingleft.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Text bank</a></p><p><a href="https://indivisible.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJ0scOyvpjsiGN3XG_xoQaXkozaKXC85In6O" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Phone bank</a></p><p><a href="https://postcardstovoters.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Write postcards</a></p><p><a href="https://iwillvote.com/votebymail" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vote early by mail</a> if you are planning to vote by mail. Be sure to check that your ballot has all the correct information, and is returned accorting to the instructions (this goes double for people in <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/09/29/brooklyn-absentee-envelope-election-ny/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">NYC</a> and <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/pennsylvania-naked-ballots/2020/09/24/a559a380-fe9c-11ea-b555-4d71a9254f4b_story.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pennsylvania</a>).</p><p><a href="https://www.vote.org/early-voting-calendar/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vote early in person if your state has early voting</a>.</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjA2nUUsGxw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stay fired up</a>!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Christina Lauren has a new, delightful holiday romance out this week! Find <em>In a Holidaze</em> at <a href="https://amzn.to/3nzyrOa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/in-a-holidaze-christina-lauren/1136765315" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/in-a-holidaze" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/in-a-holidaze/id1497590717?itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_toolbox&amp;ls=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781982123949" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">at your local indie</a>.</li><li>When we recorded, the wildfire situation was <a href="https://indivisible.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJwvf-mhqD4vEtE-YurB2sIb1rfTpRUl29CX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">particularly grim in California</a>, and it’s still <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/09/29/brooklyn-absentee-envelope-election-ny/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a huge problem facing many Western states.</a> We hope you're all being safe out there.</li><li>A brief overview of <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/pennsylvania-naked-ballots/2020/09/24/a559a380-fe9c-11ea-b555-4d71a9254f4b_story.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CLo’s story from fandom to bestselling authors</a>. The first of their published books came from Christina's fic "The Office," and was published as <a href="https://amzn.to/30DYRED" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Beautiful Bastard</em></a>. Sarah loves it a lot.</li><li><a href="https://variety.com/2020/film/news/wonder-woman-1984-delayed-christmas-1234766774/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wonder Woman 1984 has been postponed</a> because of COVID, and according to the director the film is best seen in a theater. It is not because <a href="https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2020/09/09/robert-pattinson-the-batman-coronavirus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Robert Pattinson got COVID</a> (He's <a href="https://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/robert-pattinsons-batman-resumes-after-his-covid-19-battle/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">back to business now</a>). Sarah loves the preview of the <a href="https://youtu.be/NLOp_6uPccQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">new Batman movie</a>.</li><li>Our love of Days of Lives couples <a href="https://youtu.be/tfOsHhg6WUw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jack &amp; Jennifer</a> and <a href="https://youtu.be/mvXlMW2Odnc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Patch &amp; Kayla</a> is eternal and everlasting. (Ps. Jen's favorite scene is not in that video, her search continues.)</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/JackplusJenn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Twilight fandom was vast</a>, as we discussed in this episode. And there are <a href="https://twitter.com/ZREllor/status/1312771775185530886?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">important reasons why many folks are</a> drawn to fandom. Last summer, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/tv/CCRzMREgE8N/?igshid=p6qaee1limpw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alexis Daria and Adriana Herrera talked about fanfiction and fandom on Instagram Live</a>, and it's a great watch.</li><li>Christina and Lauren mentioned “canon” and “AU” and AO3 and livejournal and fandom bootcamp and <a href="https://medium.com/@joannasmith008/fanfiction-428029544a12" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">maybe you want a primer</a> on some fanfic terms.</li><li>Maybe you also need a primer on a <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/10/13/s026-cinnamon-roll-romance-heroes-interstitial-with-andie-christopher" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">cinnamon roll character</a>.</li><li>These hugely popular romance writers came up through fanfic: Sally Thorne, Alice Clayton, Nina Bocci, Tara Sue Me, Amanda Weaver, Rebekah Weatherspoon, Helena Hunting, Daisy Prescott, EL James, and Ruth Clampett. Present-tense, stream of consciousness flow, and intense character work are some of <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2019/10/how-fanfiction-improves-writing/599197/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the hallmarks of fandom writing, and some of those stylistic choices</a> have influenced mainstream fiction in multiple genres, including romance.</li><li>Did you miss the community experience of <a href="https://amzn.to/3iJj6XK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Submissive</em></a>? Lucky for you, it's now available as a stand alone novel, and the next books in the series <em>The Dominant</em> and <em>The Training</em> also started as fic.</li><li>Christina and Lauren and Nina Bocci worked on <a href="https://fanlore.org/wiki/The_Fandom_Gives_Back" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Fandom Gives Back fundraiser</a> to benefit <a href="https://www.alexslemonade.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alex’s Lemonade Stand</a>.</li><li>Jen said she loves <a href="https://amzn.to/3iA7ea7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Beautiful Player</em></a>, but honestly no one will be surprised that she got the title wrong and her real favorite is <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Beautiful-Stranger-Book-2-ebook/dp/B00A0BHS8Q/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&amp;keywords=beautiful%20stranger&amp;qid=1602031159&amp;s=digital-text&amp;sr=1-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Beautiful Stranger</em></a>. Just read all of them. You won't be disappointed.</li><li>The question of <a href="https://reporter.rit.edu/views/fanfiction-legal-battle-creativity#:~:text=The%20legality%20of%20fanfiction%20falls,original%2C%20previously%20created%20first%20work." rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">who owns these stories and the legalities of fanfic is so interesting</a>, and specifically <a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/hayleycuccinello/2017/02/10/fifty-shades-of-green-how-fanfiction-went-from-dirty-little-secret-to-money-machine/#5d1c6a3d264c" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the history of Fifty Shades of Grey as Fanfic</a>.</li><li>As promised, a list of CLo recommend fics:</li><li><a href="https://www.fanfiction.net/s/4901517/1/Tropic-of-Virgo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tropic of Virgo</a> by in.a.blue.bathrobe (aka Kira Gold)</li><li><a href="https://www.fanfiction.net/s/5100876/1/The-Blessing-and-the-Curse" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Blessing and the Curse</a> by theblackarrow (Sally Thorne)</li><li><a href="https://www.fanfiction.net/s/6752826/1/The-Best-I-Ever-Had" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Best I Ever Had</a> by whatsmynomdeplume</li><li><a href="https://archiveofourown.org/works/961639/chapters/1884570" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mr. Horrible</a> by algonquinrt</li><li><a href="https://www.fanfiction.net/s/4769414/1/Creature-of-Habit" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Creature of Habit</a> by ezrocksangel</li><li><a href="https://www.fanfiction.net/s/6460434/1/The-Art-Teacher" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Art Teacher</a> by spanglemaker9</li><li><a href="https://www.fanfiction.net/s/5589694/1/Summer-of-Salt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Summer of Salt</a> by lolapops</li><li><a href="https://www.fanfiction.net/s/5087244/1/A-Murmur-of-Fire-in-the-Vein" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Murmur of Fire</a> in the Vein</li><li><a href="https://www.fanfiction.net/s/4561940/1/Scotch-Gin-and-the-New-Girl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scotch, Gin, and the New Girl</a> by wtvoc</li><li><a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/northshire-live-christina-lauren-in-a-holidaze-tickets-122110139715?aff=erellivmlt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah, Christina, and Lauren will be joined by Kennedy Ryan at an event on Oct 21st for a zoom event at Northshire Books.</a></li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/10/5/s0309-fanfictions-influence-on-romance-with-christina-lauren </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/10/5/s0309-fanfictions-influence-on-romance-with-christina-lauren]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5f7bb10f5bae9344c297f708</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2020 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/12bd56c3-3fed-45b2-b203-28a664fa061a/fated-mates-christina-lauren-fanfic.mp3" length="70274117" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:09:28</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>9</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>It’s joy month! We’ve got two of our very favorites with us — Christina Lauren is here with us to discuss fan fiction, romance, their romance origin stories, what they love about fic and how fic makes romance better! We talk about about a thousand books and authors, and do a little giggling too, so strap in!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-12bd56c3-3fed-45b2-b203-28a664fa061a.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S03.08: Serving Pleasure by Alisha Rai: He didn&apos;t buy curtains, so frankly it&apos;s on him.</title><itunes:title>Serving Pleasure by Alisha Rai: He didn&apos;t buy curtains, so frankly it&apos;s on him.</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This week, we’re talking about a book and author who has given both of us a whole lot of joy — Alisha Rai! We’re reading Serving Pleasure, which is the story of the most relatable of heroines and the outrageously hot painter who moves in next door! Voyeurism, sex positivity and family in romance are all on the table here. We love it. </p><p>We’re putting read alongs on hold for a bit to spend the next five weeks hanging out with some of our favorite people and talking about books and tropes that give us joy, so we hope you’ll join us and keep a pen handy so you can add to your TBR list as needed!</p><p>Also! We had our first Fated States phonebanking session with Indivisible.org on Saturday — it was great and we loved seeing so many of your amazing faces! Please join us, fellow Fated Maters, and special guests for <a href="https://indivisible.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJ0scOyvpjsiGN3XG_xoQaXkozaKXC85In6O" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated States Phonebanking Part 2 <em>this</em> Saturday, October 3rd at 3pm Eastern to call North Carolina</a>! It’s easy, not scary, and there will be prizes!</p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>It was March of 2015 (a kinder, gentler time) when <a href="https://www.npr.org/2015/03/18/393828190/small-batch-edition-on-loving-romance-with-sarah-wendell" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen first Sarah Wendell talking about Alisha Rai on NPR</a>. Later that summer, Sarah put <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/books/heroines-save-their-heroes-in-the-best-new-romance-novels/2015/06/23/b4446064-18fc-11e5-ab92-c75ae6ab94b5_story.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Serving Pleasure in her Washington Post romance column</a>. <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/books/romance-finally-breaks-the-posts-no-self-published-books-rule/2015/11/24/984636fe-9259-11e5-a2d6-f57908580b1f_story.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">It was the first self-published book ever reviewed in the Post</a>.</li><li>Just this week, Carole Bell wrote about <a href="https://www.shondaland.com/inspire/books/a34047527/indie-romance-is-big-business-why-arent-we-hearing-about-it/?utm_campaign=Kissing%20Books&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_source=Sailthru&amp;utm_term=BookRiot_KissingBooks_DormantSuppress" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">why readers don't pay enough attention to indie and self-published romance for Shondaland</a>.</li><li><a href="https://nyti.ms/2VkKSkP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pregnant people don't actually get the greatest treatment in the workplace</a>, so thanks Akira.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3id1kf9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Birth order seems like a real thing</a>, <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/2019/03/14/birth-order-doesnt-shape-personality-after-all/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">but is it</a>?</li><li>Is it all that great to be an <a href="https://www.huffpost.com/entry/artist-muse-photography-art_n_5accf519e4b0152082fe48a2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">artist's muse</a>?</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/AlishaRai/status/908394415647019008?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alisha Rai</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/AlishaRai/status/819285776622125056?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">loves</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/AlishaRai/status/1144703214752632832?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a cute</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/AlishaRai/status/819296170136797184?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">purse</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/9/28/s0308-serving-pleasure-by-alisha-rai </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, we’re talking about a book and author who has given both of us a whole lot of joy — Alisha Rai! We’re reading Serving Pleasure, which is the story of the most relatable of heroines and the outrageously hot painter who moves in next door! Voyeurism, sex positivity and family in romance are all on the table here. We love it. </p><p>We’re putting read alongs on hold for a bit to spend the next five weeks hanging out with some of our favorite people and talking about books and tropes that give us joy, so we hope you’ll join us and keep a pen handy so you can add to your TBR list as needed!</p><p>Also! We had our first Fated States phonebanking session with Indivisible.org on Saturday — it was great and we loved seeing so many of your amazing faces! Please join us, fellow Fated Maters, and special guests for <a href="https://indivisible.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJ0scOyvpjsiGN3XG_xoQaXkozaKXC85In6O" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated States Phonebanking Part 2 <em>this</em> Saturday, October 3rd at 3pm Eastern to call North Carolina</a>! It’s easy, not scary, and there will be prizes!</p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening! If you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>It was March of 2015 (a kinder, gentler time) when <a href="https://www.npr.org/2015/03/18/393828190/small-batch-edition-on-loving-romance-with-sarah-wendell" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen first Sarah Wendell talking about Alisha Rai on NPR</a>. Later that summer, Sarah put <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/books/heroines-save-their-heroes-in-the-best-new-romance-novels/2015/06/23/b4446064-18fc-11e5-ab92-c75ae6ab94b5_story.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Serving Pleasure in her Washington Post romance column</a>. <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/books/romance-finally-breaks-the-posts-no-self-published-books-rule/2015/11/24/984636fe-9259-11e5-a2d6-f57908580b1f_story.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">It was the first self-published book ever reviewed in the Post</a>.</li><li>Just this week, Carole Bell wrote about <a href="https://www.shondaland.com/inspire/books/a34047527/indie-romance-is-big-business-why-arent-we-hearing-about-it/?utm_campaign=Kissing%20Books&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_source=Sailthru&amp;utm_term=BookRiot_KissingBooks_DormantSuppress" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">why readers don't pay enough attention to indie and self-published romance for Shondaland</a>.</li><li><a href="https://nyti.ms/2VkKSkP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pregnant people don't actually get the greatest treatment in the workplace</a>, so thanks Akira.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3id1kf9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Birth order seems like a real thing</a>, <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/2019/03/14/birth-order-doesnt-shape-personality-after-all/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">but is it</a>?</li><li>Is it all that great to be an <a href="https://www.huffpost.com/entry/artist-muse-photography-art_n_5accf519e4b0152082fe48a2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">artist's muse</a>?</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/AlishaRai/status/908394415647019008?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alisha Rai</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/AlishaRai/status/819285776622125056?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">loves</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/AlishaRai/status/1144703214752632832?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a cute</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/AlishaRai/status/819296170136797184?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">purse</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/9/28/s0308-serving-pleasure-by-alisha-rai </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/9/28/s0308-serving-pleasure-by-alisha-rai]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5f724e5fc7d9d30d46c49dce</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2020 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/dfdc13af-52c8-4d0e-8226-6758a0071b39/fated-mates-serving-pleasure-final-revb.mp3" length="71026863" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:09:20</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>8</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>This week, we’re talking about a book and author who has given both of us a whole lot of joy — Alisha Rai! We’re reading Serving Pleasure, which is the story of the most relatable of heroines and the outrageously hot painter who moves in next door! Voyeurism, sex positivity and family in romance are all on the table here.  We love it.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-dfdc13af-52c8-4d0e-8226-6758a0071b39.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S03.07: A Discussion with Julie Moody-Freeman from the Black Romance Podcast</title><itunes:title>A Discussion with Julie Moody-Freeman from the Black Romance Podcast</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Two episodes in one week! We are doing what we can to take care of you, Fated Maters!</p><p>This week, we’ve got Julie Moody-Freeman, professor, self-proclaimed romance nerd, and host of the new “Black Romance Podcast” with us! We’re freewheeling about the importance of oral history, Black romance, romance and academia, her life as a romance reader, her favorite books and authors, and her dream interviews. Subscribe to the Black Romance Podcast at <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/black-romance-podcast/id1528266279" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a>, <a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1528266279/black-romance-podcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Overcast</a>, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/3hcgBlu75DiW017V44bZVn?si=u5egoN9_Q-yOpHr-B5Njig" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spotify</a>, or your favorite podcasting service.</p><p>We’re back on our regular Wednesday schedule next week, and with a deep dive on Alisha Rai’s <em>Serving Pleasure</em>, a fantastic erotic romance. Find it at <a href="https://amzn.to/32zLEy4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/serving-pleasure-alisha-rai/1122082804?ean=2940151625579" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/serving-pleasure" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/serving-pleasure/id1003204174?itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_toolbox" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781518710100" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>.</p><p>Also, we had our first Fated States phonebanking session with Indivisible.org this week — it was great and we loved seeing so many of your amazing faces! Please join us, fellow Fated Maters and special guests for <a href="https://indivisible.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJ0scOyvpjsiGN3XG_xoQaXkozaKXC85In6O" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated States Phonebanking Part 2 on Saturday, October 3rd at 3pm Eastern to call North Carolina</a>!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>This week, we interview <a href="https://las.depaul.edu/academics/african-and-black-diaspora-studies/faculty/Pages/julie-moody-freeman.aspx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Julie Moody-Freeman</a>, a professor of African and Diaspora Studies at DePaul University. She's the host of the <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/black-romance-podcast/id1528266279" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Romance Podcast.</a> Julie wrote a chatper in the newly released <a href="https://amzn.to/3kKPU3G" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Routledge Companion to Popular Romance Fiction.</a></li><li>The Black Romance Podcast is an <a href="https://guides.library.ucsc.edu/oralhist" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">oral history</a> podcast which has interviewed some of the greatest voices in Black romance both past and present.</li><li>If you're interested readings some books of non-romance oral history, Jen recommends <a href="https://amzn.to/369Tbpq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Voices from Chernobyl</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/2G38BRt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tower Stories</a>, and anything by <a href="https://www.neh.gov/humanities/2015/julyaugust/feature/the-greatest-thing-about-studs-terkel-was-studs-terkel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Studs Terkel</a>. You might also enjoy <a href="https://studsterkel.wfmt.com/bughouse-square" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the podcast Bughouse Square</a>, which pairs interviews from the Studs Terkel Radio Archives and Eve Ewing interviewing poeple today. It's terrific.</li><li>The <a href="https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/print/20091116/29587-end-of-an-era-mall-bookstores.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">era of the mall bookstore</a>--Waldenbooks and B. Dalton-- is over. But then again, <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/05/business/coronavirus-malls-department-stores-bankruptcy.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">malls might be over</a>.</li><li>Vivian Stephens was the woman who revolutionized the American cateogry romance. You should <a href="https://blackromancepodcast.libsyn.com/vivian-stephens-part-one" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">listen to her two-part interview </a>on the Black Romance Podcast, read this <a href="https://www.texasmonthly.com/the-culture/vivian-stephens-helped-turn-romance-writing-into-billion-dollar-industry/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">terrific profile of her in Texas Monthly</a>, and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/7/6/s0245-vivian-stephens-acquisitions-with-librarian-steve-ammidown" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">listen to us read and discuss some of her early aquistions with Steve Ammidown</a>.</li><li>Julie teaches a class called Romance, Women, and Race at Depaul. On the reading list: <a href="https://amzn.to/369Apyn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Make it Last Forever by Gwyneth Bolton</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/334MWBe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gabriel's Discovery by Felicia Mason</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/3j5lIQF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Duke by Default by Alyssa Cole</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/3mUgg5n" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Forbidden by Beverly Jenkins</a>, and <a href="https://amzn.to/3i623yD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Brightest Day Anthology</a>.</li><li>Although Season One of the Black Romance Podcast will be coming to a close soon, she listed some of the women she'd love to interview: <a href="https://amzn.to/3jjGLPD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shirley Hailstock</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/3czv6tb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Donna Hill</a>, and <a href="https://amzn.to/333lvHW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rochelle Alers</a>.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elsie_B._Washington" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rosalind Wells</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Ray" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Francis Ray</a> are two Black romance trailblazers who are no longer with us.</li><li>Next week, we'll be reading <a href="https://amzn.to/3iaEDId" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Serving Pleasure by Alisha Rai</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/9/24/s0307-an-interview-with-julie-moody-freeman-from-the-black-romance-podcat </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two episodes in one week! We are doing what we can to take care of you, Fated Maters!</p><p>This week, we’ve got Julie Moody-Freeman, professor, self-proclaimed romance nerd, and host of the new “Black Romance Podcast” with us! We’re freewheeling about the importance of oral history, Black romance, romance and academia, her life as a romance reader, her favorite books and authors, and her dream interviews. Subscribe to the Black Romance Podcast at <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/black-romance-podcast/id1528266279" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a>, <a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1528266279/black-romance-podcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Overcast</a>, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/3hcgBlu75DiW017V44bZVn?si=u5egoN9_Q-yOpHr-B5Njig" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spotify</a>, or your favorite podcasting service.</p><p>We’re back on our regular Wednesday schedule next week, and with a deep dive on Alisha Rai’s <em>Serving Pleasure</em>, a fantastic erotic romance. Find it at <a href="https://amzn.to/32zLEy4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/serving-pleasure-alisha-rai/1122082804?ean=2940151625579" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/serving-pleasure" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/serving-pleasure/id1003204174?itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_toolbox" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781518710100" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>.</p><p>Also, we had our first Fated States phonebanking session with Indivisible.org this week — it was great and we loved seeing so many of your amazing faces! Please join us, fellow Fated Maters and special guests for <a href="https://indivisible.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJ0scOyvpjsiGN3XG_xoQaXkozaKXC85In6O" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated States Phonebanking Part 2 on Saturday, October 3rd at 3pm Eastern to call North Carolina</a>!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>This week, we interview <a href="https://las.depaul.edu/academics/african-and-black-diaspora-studies/faculty/Pages/julie-moody-freeman.aspx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Julie Moody-Freeman</a>, a professor of African and Diaspora Studies at DePaul University. She's the host of the <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/black-romance-podcast/id1528266279" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Romance Podcast.</a> Julie wrote a chatper in the newly released <a href="https://amzn.to/3kKPU3G" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Routledge Companion to Popular Romance Fiction.</a></li><li>The Black Romance Podcast is an <a href="https://guides.library.ucsc.edu/oralhist" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">oral history</a> podcast which has interviewed some of the greatest voices in Black romance both past and present.</li><li>If you're interested readings some books of non-romance oral history, Jen recommends <a href="https://amzn.to/369Tbpq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Voices from Chernobyl</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/2G38BRt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tower Stories</a>, and anything by <a href="https://www.neh.gov/humanities/2015/julyaugust/feature/the-greatest-thing-about-studs-terkel-was-studs-terkel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Studs Terkel</a>. You might also enjoy <a href="https://studsterkel.wfmt.com/bughouse-square" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the podcast Bughouse Square</a>, which pairs interviews from the Studs Terkel Radio Archives and Eve Ewing interviewing poeple today. It's terrific.</li><li>The <a href="https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/print/20091116/29587-end-of-an-era-mall-bookstores.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">era of the mall bookstore</a>--Waldenbooks and B. Dalton-- is over. But then again, <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/05/business/coronavirus-malls-department-stores-bankruptcy.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">malls might be over</a>.</li><li>Vivian Stephens was the woman who revolutionized the American cateogry romance. You should <a href="https://blackromancepodcast.libsyn.com/vivian-stephens-part-one" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">listen to her two-part interview </a>on the Black Romance Podcast, read this <a href="https://www.texasmonthly.com/the-culture/vivian-stephens-helped-turn-romance-writing-into-billion-dollar-industry/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">terrific profile of her in Texas Monthly</a>, and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/7/6/s0245-vivian-stephens-acquisitions-with-librarian-steve-ammidown" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">listen to us read and discuss some of her early aquistions with Steve Ammidown</a>.</li><li>Julie teaches a class called Romance, Women, and Race at Depaul. On the reading list: <a href="https://amzn.to/369Apyn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Make it Last Forever by Gwyneth Bolton</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/334MWBe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gabriel's Discovery by Felicia Mason</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/3j5lIQF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Duke by Default by Alyssa Cole</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/3mUgg5n" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Forbidden by Beverly Jenkins</a>, and <a href="https://amzn.to/3i623yD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Brightest Day Anthology</a>.</li><li>Although Season One of the Black Romance Podcast will be coming to a close soon, she listed some of the women she'd love to interview: <a href="https://amzn.to/3jjGLPD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shirley Hailstock</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/3czv6tb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Donna Hill</a>, and <a href="https://amzn.to/333lvHW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rochelle Alers</a>.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elsie_B._Washington" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rosalind Wells</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Ray" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Francis Ray</a> are two Black romance trailblazers who are no longer with us.</li><li>Next week, we'll be reading <a href="https://amzn.to/3iaEDId" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Serving Pleasure by Alisha Rai</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/9/24/s0307-an-interview-with-julie-moody-freeman-from-the-black-romance-podcat </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/9/24/s0307-an-interview-with-julie-moody-freeman-from-the-black-romance-podcat]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5f6cab0278846544b1c3c18b</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2020 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/611c077a-da68-4759-978a-8c0c94fb14b7/fated-mates-season3episode7.mp3" length="51969199" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>50:54</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>7</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Two episodes in one week! We are doing what we can to take care of you, Fated Maters! 

This week, we’ve got Julie Moody-Freeman, professor, self-proclaimed romance nerd, and host of the new “Black Romance Podcast” with us! We’re freewheeling about the importance of oral history, Black romance, romance and academia, her life as a romance reader, her favorite books and authors, and her dream interviews. Subscribe to the Black Romance Podcast at Apple, Overcast, Spotify, or your favorite podcasting service.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-611c077a-da68-4759-978a-8c0c94fb14b7.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S03.06: We Are Grateful For You - Freewheeling with Sarah &amp; Jen</title><itunes:title>We Are Grateful For You - Freewheeling with Sarah &amp; Jen</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This is a tough week for everyone, so we did what we could do to make ourselves feel a little bit more ourselves despite existential despair—we recorded a podcast. We’re all over the place (we promise this won’t be a theme for the whole season!), but we recommend a TON of books, which is basically all we can do.</p><p>Next week, we’ve got an interstitial for you! And the week after, we’re deep diving on Alisha Rai’s <em>Serving Pleasure</em>, which is a fantastic erotic romance. Find it at <a href="https://amzn.to/32zLEy4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/serving-pleasure-alisha-rai/1122082804?ean=2940151625579" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/serving-pleasure" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/serving-pleasure/id1003204174?itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_toolbox" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781518710100" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>.</p><p>Also -- Sarah has a contemporary novella out September 15th! Preorder the Naughty Brits anthology, wherever you get your ebooks: <a href="https://amzn.to/32mLLLP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/naughtybritsnook" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nook</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/naughtybritskobo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/naughtybritsapple" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a>, or in print at <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781949364071" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bookshop.org</a>.</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3ciNGpo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Goodnight Stories for Rebel Girls</em></a> is available wherever books are sold, and you can <a href="https://www.rebelgirls.com/pages/podcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">listen to the podcast</a> wherever you listen to podcasts. <a href="https://soundcloud.com/user-388134347/ruth-bader-ginsburg-narrated" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The RBG episode is here</a>.</li><li>You can watch <a href="https://amzn.to/32NJtqv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a documentary about RBG</a>, or read the <a href="https://amzn.to/32NUJTZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Notorious RBG</a> book, or <a href="https://dissentpins.com/collections/rbg?gclid=CjwKCAjw-5v7BRAmEiwAJ3DpuItweDawUfV2uxVWs56gUxla2cLDclqY0bR5Cu8afn8PFh5b2q1iSBoC1xQQAvD_BwE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wear the RBG dissent collar</a> now.</li><li>RBG's "When there are nine," quote is: "When I'm sometimes asked 'When will there be enough {women on the Supreme Court}?' and I say 'When there are nine,' people are shocked. But there'd been nine men, and nobody's ever raised a question about that."</li><li><a href="https://screenrant.com/tom-hardy-james-bond-rumors-explained-007/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tom Hardy might be James Bond</a> and we're fine with it. Melissa did some great work <a href="https://twitter.com/miss_melissalee/status/1306803957570863104" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">pairing pictures of Tom Hardy as Sarah MacLean covers</a>. Here's a thread of <a href="https://twitter.com/jamadoria/status/1306731548109082625" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Henry Cavill as Sarah MacLean covers</a>, too. Let it be known Sarah has the best readers around.</li><li>The <a href="https://twitter.com/lauralexx/status/1238601779773952005" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jurgen Klopp thread</a> from comedian Laura Lexx is a thing of great beauty.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2Hk4UHB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">These Fifty Shades movies</a> are terrible but we can't stop watching them and we don't understand it either, you guys.</li><li>Masquerades are great. We talked about how historicals do masquerades more than contemporaries, and we couldn't name any contemporaries with masquerades, but then Sarah immediately picked up the <a href="https://amzn.to/3mD5IqZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dark Fairy Tales anthology</a>, which is brand new, 99 cents, and in which all the stories are connected by a masque. You should get it. You deserve nice things.</li><li>Also, the fact that we didn't mention <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/27/16-sweet-ruin" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Sweet Ruin</em></a> is causing Sarah some pretty deep shame.</li><li>You should wear your undies over your garters. <a href="https://www.huffpost.com/entry/dita-von-teeses-10-golden_b_9158450" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dita Von Teese confirms this</a>. Apparently this is referred to as "The French Way."</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_lining_(idiom)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The lining is silver</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><strong>Books mentioned in the podcast:</strong></p><ul><li>The Notorious RBG</li><li>The RBG Workout</li><li>Goodnight Stories for Rebel Girls</li><li>Sweet Ruin, Kresley Cole</li><li>Mine Till Midnight, Lisa Kleypas</li><li>Warrior, Elizabeth Lowell</li><li>The Raven Prince, Elizabeth Hoyt</li><li>Blackout Billionaire series, Naima Simone</li><li>Naughty Brits Anthology</li><li>The Blindfold Club series, specifically Three Little Mistakes, Nikki Sloane</li><li>Run to You, Charlotte Stein</li><li>The Crossfire series, Sylvia Day</li><li>Holt, Theodora Taylor</li><li>The Pleasure Principle, Jane O'Reilly</li><li>Slave to Sensation, Nalini Singh</li><li>Good and Mad, Rebecca Traister</li><li>The Seven Necessary Sins of Women &amp; Girls, Mona Eltahaway</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/9/21/s0306-we-are-grateful-for-you-freewheeling-with-sarah-amp-jen </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a tough week for everyone, so we did what we could do to make ourselves feel a little bit more ourselves despite existential despair—we recorded a podcast. We’re all over the place (we promise this won’t be a theme for the whole season!), but we recommend a TON of books, which is basically all we can do.</p><p>Next week, we’ve got an interstitial for you! And the week after, we’re deep diving on Alisha Rai’s <em>Serving Pleasure</em>, which is a fantastic erotic romance. Find it at <a href="https://amzn.to/32zLEy4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/serving-pleasure-alisha-rai/1122082804?ean=2940151625579" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/serving-pleasure" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/serving-pleasure/id1003204174?itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_toolbox" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781518710100" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>.</p><p>Also -- Sarah has a contemporary novella out September 15th! Preorder the Naughty Brits anthology, wherever you get your ebooks: <a href="https://amzn.to/32mLLLP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/naughtybritsnook" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nook</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/naughtybritskobo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/naughtybritsapple" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a>, or in print at <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781949364071" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bookshop.org</a>.</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3ciNGpo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Goodnight Stories for Rebel Girls</em></a> is available wherever books are sold, and you can <a href="https://www.rebelgirls.com/pages/podcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">listen to the podcast</a> wherever you listen to podcasts. <a href="https://soundcloud.com/user-388134347/ruth-bader-ginsburg-narrated" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The RBG episode is here</a>.</li><li>You can watch <a href="https://amzn.to/32NJtqv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a documentary about RBG</a>, or read the <a href="https://amzn.to/32NUJTZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Notorious RBG</a> book, or <a href="https://dissentpins.com/collections/rbg?gclid=CjwKCAjw-5v7BRAmEiwAJ3DpuItweDawUfV2uxVWs56gUxla2cLDclqY0bR5Cu8afn8PFh5b2q1iSBoC1xQQAvD_BwE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wear the RBG dissent collar</a> now.</li><li>RBG's "When there are nine," quote is: "When I'm sometimes asked 'When will there be enough {women on the Supreme Court}?' and I say 'When there are nine,' people are shocked. But there'd been nine men, and nobody's ever raised a question about that."</li><li><a href="https://screenrant.com/tom-hardy-james-bond-rumors-explained-007/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tom Hardy might be James Bond</a> and we're fine with it. Melissa did some great work <a href="https://twitter.com/miss_melissalee/status/1306803957570863104" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">pairing pictures of Tom Hardy as Sarah MacLean covers</a>. Here's a thread of <a href="https://twitter.com/jamadoria/status/1306731548109082625" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Henry Cavill as Sarah MacLean covers</a>, too. Let it be known Sarah has the best readers around.</li><li>The <a href="https://twitter.com/lauralexx/status/1238601779773952005" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jurgen Klopp thread</a> from comedian Laura Lexx is a thing of great beauty.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2Hk4UHB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">These Fifty Shades movies</a> are terrible but we can't stop watching them and we don't understand it either, you guys.</li><li>Masquerades are great. We talked about how historicals do masquerades more than contemporaries, and we couldn't name any contemporaries with masquerades, but then Sarah immediately picked up the <a href="https://amzn.to/3mD5IqZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dark Fairy Tales anthology</a>, which is brand new, 99 cents, and in which all the stories are connected by a masque. You should get it. You deserve nice things.</li><li>Also, the fact that we didn't mention <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/27/16-sweet-ruin" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Sweet Ruin</em></a> is causing Sarah some pretty deep shame.</li><li>You should wear your undies over your garters. <a href="https://www.huffpost.com/entry/dita-von-teeses-10-golden_b_9158450" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dita Von Teese confirms this</a>. Apparently this is referred to as "The French Way."</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_lining_(idiom)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The lining is silver</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><strong>Books mentioned in the podcast:</strong></p><ul><li>The Notorious RBG</li><li>The RBG Workout</li><li>Goodnight Stories for Rebel Girls</li><li>Sweet Ruin, Kresley Cole</li><li>Mine Till Midnight, Lisa Kleypas</li><li>Warrior, Elizabeth Lowell</li><li>The Raven Prince, Elizabeth Hoyt</li><li>Blackout Billionaire series, Naima Simone</li><li>Naughty Brits Anthology</li><li>The Blindfold Club series, specifically Three Little Mistakes, Nikki Sloane</li><li>Run to You, Charlotte Stein</li><li>The Crossfire series, Sylvia Day</li><li>Holt, Theodora Taylor</li><li>The Pleasure Principle, Jane O'Reilly</li><li>Slave to Sensation, Nalini Singh</li><li>Good and Mad, Rebecca Traister</li><li>The Seven Necessary Sins of Women &amp; Girls, Mona Eltahaway</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/9/21/s0306-we-are-grateful-for-you-freewheeling-with-sarah-amp-jen </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/9/21/s0306-we-are-grateful-for-you-freewheeling-with-sarah-amp-jen]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5f67fc67f6f62d6a78960db6</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2020 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/1f47607a-a20a-495d-af8c-4b6593147826/fated-mates-rbg-final.mp3" length="64844767" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:01:50</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>6</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>This is a tough week for everyone, so we did what we could do to make ourselves feel a little bit more ourselves despite existential despair—we recorded a podcast. We’re all over the place (we promise this won’t be a theme for the whole season!), but we recommend a TON of books, which is basically all we can do.</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/14f1b2db-42db-44d8-825c-783873dda726/index.html" type="text/html"/><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-1f47607a-a20a-495d-af8c-4b6593147826.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S03.05: A Heart of Blood and Ashes by Milla Vane: Because Moon Reasons</title><itunes:title>A Heart of Blood and Ashes by Milla Vane: Because Moon Reasons</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This week, we begin the Season 3 read alongs, and we announce the first wave of work of romance we want to honor -- joy. Romance is supposed to be fun, and sometimes, especially now, as 2020 rages around us, it can be difficult to remember that.</p><p>So, we begin talking about joy this week with a book that gave us both immense joy, Milla Vane's <em>A Heart of Blood and Ashes</em>. This one is a long one, y'all, so get ready. We're all over the place because we loved it so much, and it's a ride. Eric wants us to tell you that this is going to feel like an old-school IAD episode, so if you haven't read the book, good luck! We love you!</p><p>Next week, we’ve got an interstitial for you! And the week after, we’re deep diving on Alisha Rai’s <em>Serving Pleasure</em>, which is a fantastic erotic romance. Find it at <a href="https://amzn.to/32zLEy4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/serving-pleasure-alisha-rai/1122082804?ean=2940151625579" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/serving-pleasure" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/serving-pleasure/id1003204174?itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_toolbox" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781518710100" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>.</p><p>Also -- Sarah has a contemporary novella out September 15th! Preorder the Naughty Brits anthology, wherever you get your ebooks: <a href="https://amzn.to/32mLLLP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/naughtybritsnook" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nook</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/naughtybritskobo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/naughtybritsapple" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a>, or in print at <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781949364071" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bookshop.org</a>.</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Please listen and suscribe to the <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/black-romance-podcast/id1528266279" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Romance Podcast</a>, a fascinating oral history of Black romance authors. For more recent interviews with authors, check out <a href="https://wickedwallflowersclub.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Wicked Wallflowers podcast</a>. There are so many amazing romance podcasts for every type of listener.</li><li><a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/news-and-features/articles/remembering-romance-novelist-johanna-lindsey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">After her death</a>, readers shared their memories of their first Johanna Lindsey novels using the hashtag <a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1209131730705305600" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#MyFirstJohanna.</a></li><li>Alisha Rai, <a href="https://twitter.com/AlishaRai/status/751576519416348672" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">we demand to know the name of your hairdresser</a>.</li><li>California and the entire West Coast and experiencing <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_California_wildfires?scrlybrkr=f4ab5e85" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the worst fire season in 100 years</a>. <a href="https://www.c2es.org/content/wildfires-and-climate-change/#:~:text=Climate%20change%20has%20been%20a,in%20the%20Western%20United%20States.&amp;text=Once%20a%20fire%20starts%E2%80%94more,them%20harder%20to%20put%20out." rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Climate Change is real</a>.</li><li>Sarah <a href="https://millavane.com/maps/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">asked for maps</a>, and Jen said <a href="http://www.adlit.org/article/19844/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"reading strategies are for everyone"</a> because they are! While we're at it, <a href="https://www.readingrockets.org/strategies/visual_imagery" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">making mental movies, models, and visual images of what you read is one of the best reading strategies out there </a>and if you have little kids, teach them to do this and it will help them be better readers their entire life.</li><li>This amazing thread by <a href="https://twitter.com/AlexandraErin" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alexandra Erin</a> is about how <a href="https://twitter.com/AlexandraErin/status/1302200977261461505" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sometimes genre is determined by plot and sometimes it's determined by setting</a>.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2RvVPNH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The audiobook for A Heart of Blood and Ashes is great</a>, but Jen really recommends you <a href="https://twitter.com/caitlynlynch6/status/1302004418242662401" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">slow it down to .9 if you want it at "regular" speaking speed.</a></li><li>Ilona Andrews writes amazing books, and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/3/1/85-gateways-to-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen wants you to read the Hidden Legacy series</a>. IN FACT, NEVADA AND ROGAN DO KISS in the first book, but they don't do the business until the second.</li><li>If you missed <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/5/18/135-freewheeling-with-sarah-and-jen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">our bodily autonomy episode</a>, we were real mad about ridiculous anti-abortion laws and we talked about how romance taught us about birth control and our bodies.</li><li>Some <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/science/blog/2015/dec/17/poisons-sparkling-cyanide-murder-forensics-toxicology?scrlybrkr=8409eb5d" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">interesting thoughts about poison</a>, and <a href="https://www.bitchmedia.org/article/poison-is-womans-weapon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the myth of the woman as poisoner</a> and <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/05/07/poison-is-a-womans-weapon/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">who is likely to use it</a>. This is realted to the idea that manipulation (or as Maddek might call it, "sly tongue") <a href="https://www.womensweb.in/2020/03/manipulative-women-victim-of-patriarchy-survival-strategy-mar20wk2sr/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">is often used by the powerless as a way of getting around patriarchal power structures that silence them</a>.</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/Z58g-u0YrMU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"She rescues him right back"</a> is, of course, a reference to Pretty Woman.</li><li>Up next, <a href="https://amzn.to/2ZA0CCb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Serving Pleasure</a> by Alisha Rai.</li><li>Buy Fated Mates swag by clicking on the Merch link at the top of this page.</li><li>Did someone say map?</li><li><a href="https://millavane.com/maps/#" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Milla Vane's website had it!</a></li></ul><br/><h2><strong>Lost Limb Count (SO MANY SPOILERS!)</strong></h2><p>For those listeners who missed Season One of Fated Mates, Kresley Cole really enjoyed removing limbs from her characters (They mostly regenerated). She liked it so much, that we tracked the lost limbs from the books in what is now an epic lost limb counter.</p><p>Also, if you missed Season One, it's our pure joy in your earholes. We recommend it.</p><p><strong>Legs &amp; Feet</strong></p><ol><li>Years earlier, Yvenne attempted to escape with her mother. In retaliation, her father and brother shatter her knee. It never heals properly and she will never run again.</li><li>At the end, Yvenne is trapped in her tower, and from that window she shoots her father Zhalen right through his knee and calf with her arrow, shattering his knee as hers had been.</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Arms, Hands, and Fingers</strong></p><ol><li>Immediately before the book begins, Yvenne used a bow and arrow to kill her brother Lazen. To punish her, her father cut off the first and second fingers of her right hand so she can never draw a bow again.</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Head, Face, and Eyes</strong></p><ol><li>Yvenne throws a dagger at her brother Bazir’s eye. Although her aim is perfect, the handle hits him in the eye rather than the blade. Later that night, Bazir and his men attack, and Maddek rips out Bazir’s tongue, stabs and kills Bazir with his own poisoned sword.</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Torso</strong></p><ol><li>When Zhalen realized that Yvenne sent a message to Maddek’s parents, he whipped her back and left numerous scars.</li><li>When Maddek kidnaps her from the wedding caravan, Yvenne stabs her brother Cezan in the back with her dagger.</li><li>When Zhalen’s men come for her and kill Banek, she rips the arrows from the fallen bodies around her in order to shoot back at her father’s men.</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Total Body Destruction</strong></p><ol><li>After Yvenne’s brother Aezil poisons Maddek, he is too weak to wield a weapon. He crawls to the edge of the cliff, drops his sword into the drepa (an evil bird dinosaur kind of thing) nest which causes them to attack and kill Aezil while Maddek and his wolf play dead.</li><li>Zhalen tricks Yvenne into drinking three doses of half-moon milk. She was not sure she was pregnant, so it forced her to have a heavy period or perhaps an abortion. She is overcome with grief.</li><li>After Yvenne shatters Zhalen’s kneecap with her arrow, Maddek rips out his tongue, shreds his cock and balls with his silver claws, and then tears out his heart. He then uses Zhalen’s own axe to cut off his head, which he then presents to Yvenne as a sign of his love and devotion.</li></ol><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit:...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, we begin the Season 3 read alongs, and we announce the first wave of work of romance we want to honor -- joy. Romance is supposed to be fun, and sometimes, especially now, as 2020 rages around us, it can be difficult to remember that.</p><p>So, we begin talking about joy this week with a book that gave us both immense joy, Milla Vane's <em>A Heart of Blood and Ashes</em>. This one is a long one, y'all, so get ready. We're all over the place because we loved it so much, and it's a ride. Eric wants us to tell you that this is going to feel like an old-school IAD episode, so if you haven't read the book, good luck! We love you!</p><p>Next week, we’ve got an interstitial for you! And the week after, we’re deep diving on Alisha Rai’s <em>Serving Pleasure</em>, which is a fantastic erotic romance. Find it at <a href="https://amzn.to/32zLEy4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/serving-pleasure-alisha-rai/1122082804?ean=2940151625579" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/serving-pleasure" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/serving-pleasure/id1003204174?itscg=30200&amp;itsct=books_toolbox" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781518710100" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>.</p><p>Also -- Sarah has a contemporary novella out September 15th! Preorder the Naughty Brits anthology, wherever you get your ebooks: <a href="https://amzn.to/32mLLLP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/naughtybritsnook" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nook</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/naughtybritskobo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/naughtybritsapple" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a>, or in print at <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781949364071" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bookshop.org</a>.</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Please listen and suscribe to the <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/black-romance-podcast/id1528266279" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Romance Podcast</a>, a fascinating oral history of Black romance authors. For more recent interviews with authors, check out <a href="https://wickedwallflowersclub.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Wicked Wallflowers podcast</a>. There are so many amazing romance podcasts for every type of listener.</li><li><a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/news-and-features/articles/remembering-romance-novelist-johanna-lindsey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">After her death</a>, readers shared their memories of their first Johanna Lindsey novels using the hashtag <a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1209131730705305600" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#MyFirstJohanna.</a></li><li>Alisha Rai, <a href="https://twitter.com/AlishaRai/status/751576519416348672" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">we demand to know the name of your hairdresser</a>.</li><li>California and the entire West Coast and experiencing <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_California_wildfires?scrlybrkr=f4ab5e85" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the worst fire season in 100 years</a>. <a href="https://www.c2es.org/content/wildfires-and-climate-change/#:~:text=Climate%20change%20has%20been%20a,in%20the%20Western%20United%20States.&amp;text=Once%20a%20fire%20starts%E2%80%94more,them%20harder%20to%20put%20out." rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Climate Change is real</a>.</li><li>Sarah <a href="https://millavane.com/maps/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">asked for maps</a>, and Jen said <a href="http://www.adlit.org/article/19844/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"reading strategies are for everyone"</a> because they are! While we're at it, <a href="https://www.readingrockets.org/strategies/visual_imagery" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">making mental movies, models, and visual images of what you read is one of the best reading strategies out there </a>and if you have little kids, teach them to do this and it will help them be better readers their entire life.</li><li>This amazing thread by <a href="https://twitter.com/AlexandraErin" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alexandra Erin</a> is about how <a href="https://twitter.com/AlexandraErin/status/1302200977261461505" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sometimes genre is determined by plot and sometimes it's determined by setting</a>.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2RvVPNH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The audiobook for A Heart of Blood and Ashes is great</a>, but Jen really recommends you <a href="https://twitter.com/caitlynlynch6/status/1302004418242662401" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">slow it down to .9 if you want it at "regular" speaking speed.</a></li><li>Ilona Andrews writes amazing books, and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/3/1/85-gateways-to-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen wants you to read the Hidden Legacy series</a>. IN FACT, NEVADA AND ROGAN DO KISS in the first book, but they don't do the business until the second.</li><li>If you missed <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/5/18/135-freewheeling-with-sarah-and-jen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">our bodily autonomy episode</a>, we were real mad about ridiculous anti-abortion laws and we talked about how romance taught us about birth control and our bodies.</li><li>Some <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/science/blog/2015/dec/17/poisons-sparkling-cyanide-murder-forensics-toxicology?scrlybrkr=8409eb5d" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">interesting thoughts about poison</a>, and <a href="https://www.bitchmedia.org/article/poison-is-womans-weapon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the myth of the woman as poisoner</a> and <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/05/07/poison-is-a-womans-weapon/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">who is likely to use it</a>. This is realted to the idea that manipulation (or as Maddek might call it, "sly tongue") <a href="https://www.womensweb.in/2020/03/manipulative-women-victim-of-patriarchy-survival-strategy-mar20wk2sr/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">is often used by the powerless as a way of getting around patriarchal power structures that silence them</a>.</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/Z58g-u0YrMU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"She rescues him right back"</a> is, of course, a reference to Pretty Woman.</li><li>Up next, <a href="https://amzn.to/2ZA0CCb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Serving Pleasure</a> by Alisha Rai.</li><li>Buy Fated Mates swag by clicking on the Merch link at the top of this page.</li><li>Did someone say map?</li><li><a href="https://millavane.com/maps/#" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Milla Vane's website had it!</a></li></ul><br/><h2><strong>Lost Limb Count (SO MANY SPOILERS!)</strong></h2><p>For those listeners who missed Season One of Fated Mates, Kresley Cole really enjoyed removing limbs from her characters (They mostly regenerated). She liked it so much, that we tracked the lost limbs from the books in what is now an epic lost limb counter.</p><p>Also, if you missed Season One, it's our pure joy in your earholes. We recommend it.</p><p><strong>Legs &amp; Feet</strong></p><ol><li>Years earlier, Yvenne attempted to escape with her mother. In retaliation, her father and brother shatter her knee. It never heals properly and she will never run again.</li><li>At the end, Yvenne is trapped in her tower, and from that window she shoots her father Zhalen right through his knee and calf with her arrow, shattering his knee as hers had been.</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Arms, Hands, and Fingers</strong></p><ol><li>Immediately before the book begins, Yvenne used a bow and arrow to kill her brother Lazen. To punish her, her father cut off the first and second fingers of her right hand so she can never draw a bow again.</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Head, Face, and Eyes</strong></p><ol><li>Yvenne throws a dagger at her brother Bazir’s eye. Although her aim is perfect, the handle hits him in the eye rather than the blade. Later that night, Bazir and his men attack, and Maddek rips out Bazir’s tongue, stabs and kills Bazir with his own poisoned sword.</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Torso</strong></p><ol><li>When Zhalen realized that Yvenne sent a message to Maddek’s parents, he whipped her back and left numerous scars.</li><li>When Maddek kidnaps her from the wedding caravan, Yvenne stabs her brother Cezan in the back with her dagger.</li><li>When Zhalen’s men come for her and kill Banek, she rips the arrows from the fallen bodies around her in order to shoot back at her father’s men.</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Total Body Destruction</strong></p><ol><li>After Yvenne’s brother Aezil poisons Maddek, he is too weak to wield a weapon. He crawls to the edge of the cliff, drops his sword into the drepa (an evil bird dinosaur kind of thing) nest which causes them to attack and kill Aezil while Maddek and his wolf play dead.</li><li>Zhalen tricks Yvenne into drinking three doses of half-moon milk. She was not sure she was pregnant, so it forced her to have a heavy period or perhaps an abortion. She is overcome with grief.</li><li>After Yvenne shatters Zhalen’s kneecap with her arrow, Maddek rips out his tongue, shreds his cock and balls with his silver claws, and then tears out his heart. He then uses Zhalen’s own axe to cut off his head, which he then presents to Yvenne as a sign of his love and devotion.</li></ol><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/9/15/s0305-a-heart-of-blood-and-ashes-by-milla-vane </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/9/15/s0305-a-heart-of-blood-and-ashes-by-milla-vane]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5f60b7cc26ee893714f0eb9c</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2020 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/959603ff-ad7d-4389-960a-9858c23933b0/fated-mates-season3episode5-final-reva.mp3" length="99521703" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:36:38</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>5</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>This week, we begin the Season 3 read alongs, and we announce the first wave of work of romance we want to honor -- joy. Romance is supposed to be fun, and sometimes, especially now, as 2020 rages around us, it can be difficult to remember that.

So, we begin talking about joy this week with a book that gave us both immense joy, Milla Vane&apos;s A Heart of Blood and Ashes. This one is a long one, y&apos;all, so get ready. We&apos;re all over the place because we loved it so much, and it&apos;s a ride. Eric wants us to tell you that this is going to feel like an old-school IAD episode, so if you haven&apos;t read the book, good luck! We love you!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-959603ff-ad7d-4389-960a-9858c23933b0.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S03.04: Friends to Lovers Interstitial with Tracey Livesay: Handstand, Hammock, and Horse</title><itunes:title>Friends to Lovers Interstitial with Tracey Livesay: Handstand, Hammock, and Horse</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Two years in the making, we’re finally talking to one of our very favorites, Tracey Livesay, about friends-to-lovers romances! Ironically, for a group of people who say they don’t love friends-to-lovers, we sure had a lot of books to recommend! We’ll also peel back the curtain on Tracey’s feelings about Jamie Dornan, talk about the strangest places romance couples have sex, and get to the bottom of why this trope works so well when it works.</p><p>Sarah wrote a contemporary novella during a pandemic, and it's coming out September 15th! Preorder the <em>Naughty Brits</em> (an anthology with Sophie Jordan, Sierra Simone, Louisa Edwards and Tessa Gratton), wherever you get your ebooks: <a href="https://amzn.to/32mLLLP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/naughtybritsnook" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nook</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/naughtybritskobo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/naughtybritsapple" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a> or <a href="https://bit.ly/naughtybritsgoogle" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Google</a>, or in print at <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781949364071" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bookshop.org</a>.</p><p>Next week, we’re deep diving on Milla Vane’s <a href="https://amzn.to/2QNvlqG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>A Heart of Blood and Ashes</em></a>, which is a long fantasy romance. If you are a reader who needs content warnings, you might want to check out reviews on Goodreads.</p><p>Find it at <a href="https://amzn.to/2QNvlqG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-heart-of-blood-and-ashes-milla-vane/1131740887" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/in/en/ebook/a-heart-of-blood-and-ashes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/a-heart-of-blood-and-ashes/id1465456007?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780425255070" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>.</p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening — we hope you’re having a great (and safe!) summer! While we’re apart, if you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://twitter.com/theLindashow" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Linda</a> is keeping a <a href="https://twitter.com/theLindashow/status/1283484090705084416?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">calendar of romance events</a>. You should subscribe.</li><li>The <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2017/02/fifty-shades-darker-a-spoilereview/516204/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fifty Shades movies</a> <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2018/02/fifty-shades-freed-a-spoilereview/552887/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">aren’t well reviewed</a>, but really who cares. We definitely recommend the unrated version if you have the money (editorial note: would we say "recommend?"). Some <a href="https://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/movies/a8615791/fifty-shades-of-grey-facts/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">interesting facts about the movies</a>, including the director change from <a href="https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/director-sam-taylor-johnson-fifty-shades-set-battles-a-sexy-new-netflix-show-1013672" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sam Taylor-Johnson</a> to <a href="https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/fifty-shades-darker-director-what-expect-freed-working-girl-tribute-vod-working-el-james-q-a-97" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">James Foley</a>. The soundtracks for the movies are terrific, especially two Beyonce songs: the <a href="https://youtu.be/bfQ7ucGQdOM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">remix of Crazy in Love</a> and the song <a href="https://youtu.be/lD4Hrfk4YrA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Haunted</a>. May all of your <a href="https://youtu.be/EC8dPsFa3Qo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">contract negotiations</a> look like this. Tracey said <a href="https://www.theloop.ca/50-times-50-shades-star-jamie-dornan-talked-dirty-to-us/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“we see more of Jamie” in the next two movies, so maybe she didn’t know about his modeling career</a>. All further 50 Shades questions should be directed to <a href="https://twitter.com/Nishawrites" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nisha Sharma</a>.</li><li><a href="https://everydayfeminism.com/2016/01/dealing-with-unrequited-love/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Unrequited love</a> is way more stressful than <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/70653.Best_Friends_to_Lovers_Contemporary_Romance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">friends to lovers</a>.</li><li>In <em>Like Lovers Do</em>, Ben's ex-girlfriend is racist to Nic in a way that Ben doesn't quite understand, including a reference to <a href="https://www.courvoisier.com/us/home?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI9-SHvYbY6wIVRdbACh1LvA61EAAYASAAEgLjVvD_BwE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Courvoisier</a>, which<a href="https://youtu.be/L7zNWkniLsY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Ben thinks is referring to an SNL skit</a>.</li><li>Unsurprisingly, we adore <em>Like Lovers Do</em>, but we're not sure we can give it a better review than <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/3356130332?book_show_action=true&amp;from_review_page=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this one by LaQuette</a>, who really hits the nail on the head with the promise of this particular premise (aka, hammock sex friends-to-lovers).</li><li><a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/marthas-vineyard-obama-ceos-millionaires-celebs-homes-vacations-2019-12" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Martha’s Vineyard</a> is for fancy people.</li><li>A New York Times article about <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/22/arts/television/insecure-lovebirds-interracial.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Interracial romance in media in 2020</a>.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/JenniferRNN/status/1302762199711088640?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Handstand</a>. <a href="https://hammocktown.com/blogs/hammock-life/hammock-sex-positions" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hammock</a>. <a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2018/01/who-did-it-better-on-horse.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Horse</a>.</li><li>Are <a href="https://tulepublishing.com/2016/04/bachelor-auction-fact-fantasy-charlene-sands/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bachelor auctions</a> even a thing?</li><li>A <a href="https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/13067/11-things-you-probably-didnt-know-about-taxidermy#:~:text=Taxidermy%20began%20in%20England%20in,species%20catalogued%20by%20naturalists%20possible." rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">history of taxidermy</a>.</li><li>Bruno Kirby and Carrie Fisher are amazing in all ways in When Harry Met Sally, and the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvFK0YGEo-k" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"pesto is the quiche of the 80s" scene</a> gets quoted more than anyone in Sarah's house would like.</li><li>Up next: <a href="https://amzn.to/337MRLL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Heart of Blood and Ashes</a> by Milla Vane.</li></ul><br/><h2>Books discussed in the episode:</h2><ul><li><em>Like Lovers Do</em>, Tracey Livesay</li><li><em>Sweet Talkin' Lover</em>, Tracey Livesay</li><li><em>The Navy Seal's Christmas Bride</em>, Cora Seaton</li><li><em>Scoring off the Field</em>, Naima Simone</li><li><em>Trust Fund Fiancé</em>, Naima Simone</li><li><em>His Until Midnight</em>, Reese Ryan</li><li><em>Goddess of the Hunt</em>, Tessa Dare</li><li><em>My Fake Rake</em>, Eva Leigh</li><li><em>An Unseen Attraction</em>, KJ Charles</li><li><em>Josh &amp; Hazel's Guide to Not Dating</em>, Christina Lauren</li><li><em>Beautiful Player</em>, Christian Lauren</li><li><em>Beautiful Stranger</em>, Christina Lauren</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/9/6/s0304-friends-to-lovers-interstitial-with-tracey-livesay </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two years in the making, we’re finally talking to one of our very favorites, Tracey Livesay, about friends-to-lovers romances! Ironically, for a group of people who say they don’t love friends-to-lovers, we sure had a lot of books to recommend! We’ll also peel back the curtain on Tracey’s feelings about Jamie Dornan, talk about the strangest places romance couples have sex, and get to the bottom of why this trope works so well when it works.</p><p>Sarah wrote a contemporary novella during a pandemic, and it's coming out September 15th! Preorder the <em>Naughty Brits</em> (an anthology with Sophie Jordan, Sierra Simone, Louisa Edwards and Tessa Gratton), wherever you get your ebooks: <a href="https://amzn.to/32mLLLP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/naughtybritsnook" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nook</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/naughtybritskobo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/naughtybritsapple" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a> or <a href="https://bit.ly/naughtybritsgoogle" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Google</a>, or in print at <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9781949364071" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bookshop.org</a>.</p><p>Next week, we’re deep diving on Milla Vane’s <a href="https://amzn.to/2QNvlqG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>A Heart of Blood and Ashes</em></a>, which is a long fantasy romance. If you are a reader who needs content warnings, you might want to check out reviews on Goodreads.</p><p>Find it at <a href="https://amzn.to/2QNvlqG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-heart-of-blood-and-ashes-milla-vane/1131740887" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/in/en/ebook/a-heart-of-blood-and-ashes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/a-heart-of-blood-and-ashes/id1465456007?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780425255070" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>.</p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening — we hope you’re having a great (and safe!) summer! While we’re apart, if you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://twitter.com/theLindashow" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Linda</a> is keeping a <a href="https://twitter.com/theLindashow/status/1283484090705084416?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">calendar of romance events</a>. You should subscribe.</li><li>The <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2017/02/fifty-shades-darker-a-spoilereview/516204/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fifty Shades movies</a> <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2018/02/fifty-shades-freed-a-spoilereview/552887/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">aren’t well reviewed</a>, but really who cares. We definitely recommend the unrated version if you have the money (editorial note: would we say "recommend?"). Some <a href="https://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/movies/a8615791/fifty-shades-of-grey-facts/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">interesting facts about the movies</a>, including the director change from <a href="https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/director-sam-taylor-johnson-fifty-shades-set-battles-a-sexy-new-netflix-show-1013672" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sam Taylor-Johnson</a> to <a href="https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/fifty-shades-darker-director-what-expect-freed-working-girl-tribute-vod-working-el-james-q-a-97" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">James Foley</a>. The soundtracks for the movies are terrific, especially two Beyonce songs: the <a href="https://youtu.be/bfQ7ucGQdOM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">remix of Crazy in Love</a> and the song <a href="https://youtu.be/lD4Hrfk4YrA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Haunted</a>. May all of your <a href="https://youtu.be/EC8dPsFa3Qo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">contract negotiations</a> look like this. Tracey said <a href="https://www.theloop.ca/50-times-50-shades-star-jamie-dornan-talked-dirty-to-us/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“we see more of Jamie” in the next two movies, so maybe she didn’t know about his modeling career</a>. All further 50 Shades questions should be directed to <a href="https://twitter.com/Nishawrites" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nisha Sharma</a>.</li><li><a href="https://everydayfeminism.com/2016/01/dealing-with-unrequited-love/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Unrequited love</a> is way more stressful than <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/70653.Best_Friends_to_Lovers_Contemporary_Romance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">friends to lovers</a>.</li><li>In <em>Like Lovers Do</em>, Ben's ex-girlfriend is racist to Nic in a way that Ben doesn't quite understand, including a reference to <a href="https://www.courvoisier.com/us/home?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI9-SHvYbY6wIVRdbACh1LvA61EAAYASAAEgLjVvD_BwE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Courvoisier</a>, which<a href="https://youtu.be/L7zNWkniLsY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Ben thinks is referring to an SNL skit</a>.</li><li>Unsurprisingly, we adore <em>Like Lovers Do</em>, but we're not sure we can give it a better review than <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/3356130332?book_show_action=true&amp;from_review_page=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this one by LaQuette</a>, who really hits the nail on the head with the promise of this particular premise (aka, hammock sex friends-to-lovers).</li><li><a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/marthas-vineyard-obama-ceos-millionaires-celebs-homes-vacations-2019-12" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Martha’s Vineyard</a> is for fancy people.</li><li>A New York Times article about <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/22/arts/television/insecure-lovebirds-interracial.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Interracial romance in media in 2020</a>.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/JenniferRNN/status/1302762199711088640?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Handstand</a>. <a href="https://hammocktown.com/blogs/hammock-life/hammock-sex-positions" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hammock</a>. <a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2018/01/who-did-it-better-on-horse.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Horse</a>.</li><li>Are <a href="https://tulepublishing.com/2016/04/bachelor-auction-fact-fantasy-charlene-sands/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bachelor auctions</a> even a thing?</li><li>A <a href="https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/13067/11-things-you-probably-didnt-know-about-taxidermy#:~:text=Taxidermy%20began%20in%20England%20in,species%20catalogued%20by%20naturalists%20possible." rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">history of taxidermy</a>.</li><li>Bruno Kirby and Carrie Fisher are amazing in all ways in When Harry Met Sally, and the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvFK0YGEo-k" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"pesto is the quiche of the 80s" scene</a> gets quoted more than anyone in Sarah's house would like.</li><li>Up next: <a href="https://amzn.to/337MRLL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Heart of Blood and Ashes</a> by Milla Vane.</li></ul><br/><h2>Books discussed in the episode:</h2><ul><li><em>Like Lovers Do</em>, Tracey Livesay</li><li><em>Sweet Talkin' Lover</em>, Tracey Livesay</li><li><em>The Navy Seal's Christmas Bride</em>, Cora Seaton</li><li><em>Scoring off the Field</em>, Naima Simone</li><li><em>Trust Fund Fiancé</em>, Naima Simone</li><li><em>His Until Midnight</em>, Reese Ryan</li><li><em>Goddess of the Hunt</em>, Tessa Dare</li><li><em>My Fake Rake</em>, Eva Leigh</li><li><em>An Unseen Attraction</em>, KJ Charles</li><li><em>Josh &amp; Hazel's Guide to Not Dating</em>, Christina Lauren</li><li><em>Beautiful Player</em>, Christian Lauren</li><li><em>Beautiful Stranger</em>, Christina Lauren</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/9/6/s0304-friends-to-lovers-interstitial-with-tracey-livesay </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/9/6/s0304-friends-to-lovers-interstitial-with-tracey-livesay]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5f555836f7214e5c4295042d</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2020 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/1e70d882-12f6-47c7-9a44-9b5067fbdecd/season3episode4-final-revb.mp3" length="67543413" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:06:45</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>4</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Two years in the making, we’re finally talking to one of our very favorites, Tracey Livesay, about friends-to-lovers romances! Ironically, for a group of people who say they don’t love friends-to-lovers, we sure had a lot of books to recommend! We’ll also peel back the curtain on Tracey’s feelings about Jamie Dornan, talk about the strangest places romance couples have sex, and get to the bottom of why this trope works so well when it works.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-1e70d882-12f6-47c7-9a44-9b5067fbdecd.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S03.03: Fifty Shades of Grey by EL James: Romance Has Gotten Hotter And I Think I Like It</title><itunes:title>Fifty Shades of Grey by EL James: Romance Has Gotten Hotter And I Think I Like It</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>If we’re going to talk about the last 10 years of romance — what we’d call modern romance — it’s basically impossible to do that out in the world without someone who doesn’t know much about the genre asking about EL James’s Fifty Shades of Grey. This week, Fated Mates is talking about Fifty Shades. Or, rather, we’re talking about what we're really talking about when we talk about Fifty Shades of Grey.</p><p>At no point in this discussion do we talk about tampons. You’re welcome.</p><p>Next week, we’ve got an interstitial for you! And the week after, we’re deep diving on Milla Vane’s A Heart of Blood and Ashes, which is a long fantasy romance. If you are a reader who needs content warnings, you might want to check out reviews on Goodreads.</p><p>Find it at Amazon, B&amp;N, Kobo, Apple Books or Bookshop.org.</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>There are honestly so many articles about Fifty Shades that Jen couldn't possibly even link to them. But the one about the <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210505231032/https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/02/10/sex-toy-injuries-surged-after-fifty-shades-of-grey-was-published/?arc404=true" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">increase in ER visits</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210504044934/http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/ny_gals_learning_the_ropes_at_fifty_sVWWKeksj9WKUto2ITg1KK/0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">necktie sales up 23%</a>, and Jen wrote about <a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/news-and-features/articles/caught-between-fabio-and-fifty-shades-grey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the history of romance between Fabio and Fifty Shades</a>.</li><li>Drunk Austen went through a rather spectacular break-up last week; we promise never to do this and swear we are full legal partners in our current venture.</li><li>Fanfiction brought <a href="https://christinalaurenbooks.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Christina Lauren</a>, <a href="https://tarasueme.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tara Sue Me</a>, <a href="https://sallythorneauthor.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sally Thorne</a> and so many others to us. And lots of great BDSM was written after Fifty Shades by too many authors to count, but many think of The Original Sinners series by <a href="https://tiffanyreisz.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tiffany Reisz</a> as being truly excellent.</li><li>There's a reason why <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20201216153553/https://www.nbcnews.com/know-your-value/feature/5-car-buying-tips-every-smart-woman-should-know-ncna956161" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">women hate dealing with car salesmen</a> and mechanics. Jen wants you to know that if you're in Chicago and looking for a mechanic, the guys at <a href="https://www.ashlandtire.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ashland Tire and Auto</a> will never treat you like that.</li><li>Perhaps you're interested in whether or not <a href="https://publishingperspectives.com/2015/02/fifty-shades-copyright-infringement/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fifty Shades of Grey was copyright infringement</a>?</li><li>The <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20201216153553/https://ideas.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/29/the-great-he-cession/?assetType=REGIWALL&amp;mtrref=www.google.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2010 He-cession</a> vs the <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20201216153553/https://globalnews.ca/news/6907589/canada-coronavirus-she-session/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2020 she-cession</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/books/grey-fifty-shades-of-grey-as-told-by-christian-by-el-james/2015/06/18/b1f6f83a-1465-11e5-9518-f9e0a8959f32_story.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah reviewed Grey for the Washington Post</a>, and just a few weeks ago, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20201216153553/https://www.buzzfeed.com/jennaguillaume/midnight-sun-twilight-memes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Midnight Sun</a> (Twilight from Edward's Point of View was released.</li><li>Ope. We forgot to talk about Thomas Hardy, so just <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20201216153553/https://www.theguardian.com/books/booksblog/2012/jul/24/fifty-shades-grey-tess-guilt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">read this article from The Guardian instead</a>.</li><li>Mrs. Robinson refers to a character in <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20201216153553/https://www.vox.com/culture/2017/12/21/16801324/graduate-50-years-dustin-hoffman-anne-bancroft-katherine-ross-sexual-assault" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the 1967 film The Graduate</a>.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Stanley" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Flat Stanley</a> is a character in a children's book, but here we are talking about the theory that readers insert themselves into a book and become the main character. Many people believed that teenage girls reading Twilight imaged themselves as Bella, for example, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210226021758/https://www.bustle.com/p/im-grateful-that-i-read-twilight-as-a-teenage-girl-heres-why-8167147" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">but that's deeply rooted in misogny</a>. In <a href="https://amzn.to/2EFOmsJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dangerous Men and Adventurous Women</a>, <a href="https://teachmetonight.blogspot.com/2012/03/personality-tests.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Laura Kinsale suggested that women reading romance imagine themselves as the hero rather than the heroine</a>.</li><li>Fifty Shades of Grey <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20201009114946/https://www.prweb.com/releases/fifty_shades_of_grey_was_the_best_selling_book_of_the_decade_in_the_u_s_the_npd_group_says/prweb16796783.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sold a lot of fucking copies</a>. <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210126090129/https://www.cbronline.com/analytics/50-shades-of-grey-bigger-than-the-bible-16072011/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A lot</a>. A lot!</li><li>Lori Perkins was the editor of <a href="https://amzn.to/4jvD1Jn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fifty Writers on Fifty Shades of Grey</a>. You can also check out <a href="https://amzn.to/2Djqg68" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hard Core Romance: Fifty Shades of Grey, Bestsellers, and Society</a> by Eva Illouz.</li><li>Jen refers to Christian as the <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/02/the-real-marlboro-man/385447/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Marlboro Man</a>, a symbol of a kind of gruff, male, American renegade loner.</li><li><a href="https://www.bustle.com/articles/65251-bdsm-contracts-really-exist-im-a-sexual-submissive-and-heres-how-fifty-shades-got-them" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">BDSM contracts are a thing!</a></li><li><a href="https://www.bustle.com/p/where-do-kinks-come-from-its-complicated-41467" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Where does Kink come from?</a> And <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20201112014443/https://www.elitedaily.com/p/what-fifty-shades-gets-right-wrong-about-bdsm-according-to-expert-8224269" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">what Fifty Shades gets right and wrong</a> about kink and BDSM.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/9/1/s0303-fifty-shades-of-grey-by-el-james </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we’re going to talk about the last 10 years of romance — what we’d call modern romance — it’s basically impossible to do that out in the world without someone who doesn’t know much about the genre asking about EL James’s Fifty Shades of Grey. This week, Fated Mates is talking about Fifty Shades. Or, rather, we’re talking about what we're really talking about when we talk about Fifty Shades of Grey.</p><p>At no point in this discussion do we talk about tampons. You’re welcome.</p><p>Next week, we’ve got an interstitial for you! And the week after, we’re deep diving on Milla Vane’s A Heart of Blood and Ashes, which is a long fantasy romance. If you are a reader who needs content warnings, you might want to check out reviews on Goodreads.</p><p>Find it at Amazon, B&amp;N, Kobo, Apple Books or Bookshop.org.</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>There are honestly so many articles about Fifty Shades that Jen couldn't possibly even link to them. But the one about the <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210505231032/https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/02/10/sex-toy-injuries-surged-after-fifty-shades-of-grey-was-published/?arc404=true" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">increase in ER visits</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210504044934/http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/ny_gals_learning_the_ropes_at_fifty_sVWWKeksj9WKUto2ITg1KK/0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">necktie sales up 23%</a>, and Jen wrote about <a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/news-and-features/articles/caught-between-fabio-and-fifty-shades-grey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the history of romance between Fabio and Fifty Shades</a>.</li><li>Drunk Austen went through a rather spectacular break-up last week; we promise never to do this and swear we are full legal partners in our current venture.</li><li>Fanfiction brought <a href="https://christinalaurenbooks.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Christina Lauren</a>, <a href="https://tarasueme.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tara Sue Me</a>, <a href="https://sallythorneauthor.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sally Thorne</a> and so many others to us. And lots of great BDSM was written after Fifty Shades by too many authors to count, but many think of The Original Sinners series by <a href="https://tiffanyreisz.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tiffany Reisz</a> as being truly excellent.</li><li>There's a reason why <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20201216153553/https://www.nbcnews.com/know-your-value/feature/5-car-buying-tips-every-smart-woman-should-know-ncna956161" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">women hate dealing with car salesmen</a> and mechanics. Jen wants you to know that if you're in Chicago and looking for a mechanic, the guys at <a href="https://www.ashlandtire.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ashland Tire and Auto</a> will never treat you like that.</li><li>Perhaps you're interested in whether or not <a href="https://publishingperspectives.com/2015/02/fifty-shades-copyright-infringement/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fifty Shades of Grey was copyright infringement</a>?</li><li>The <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20201216153553/https://ideas.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/29/the-great-he-cession/?assetType=REGIWALL&amp;mtrref=www.google.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2010 He-cession</a> vs the <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20201216153553/https://globalnews.ca/news/6907589/canada-coronavirus-she-session/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2020 she-cession</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/books/grey-fifty-shades-of-grey-as-told-by-christian-by-el-james/2015/06/18/b1f6f83a-1465-11e5-9518-f9e0a8959f32_story.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah reviewed Grey for the Washington Post</a>, and just a few weeks ago, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20201216153553/https://www.buzzfeed.com/jennaguillaume/midnight-sun-twilight-memes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Midnight Sun</a> (Twilight from Edward's Point of View was released.</li><li>Ope. We forgot to talk about Thomas Hardy, so just <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20201216153553/https://www.theguardian.com/books/booksblog/2012/jul/24/fifty-shades-grey-tess-guilt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">read this article from The Guardian instead</a>.</li><li>Mrs. Robinson refers to a character in <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20201216153553/https://www.vox.com/culture/2017/12/21/16801324/graduate-50-years-dustin-hoffman-anne-bancroft-katherine-ross-sexual-assault" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the 1967 film The Graduate</a>.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Stanley" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Flat Stanley</a> is a character in a children's book, but here we are talking about the theory that readers insert themselves into a book and become the main character. Many people believed that teenage girls reading Twilight imaged themselves as Bella, for example, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210226021758/https://www.bustle.com/p/im-grateful-that-i-read-twilight-as-a-teenage-girl-heres-why-8167147" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">but that's deeply rooted in misogny</a>. In <a href="https://amzn.to/2EFOmsJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dangerous Men and Adventurous Women</a>, <a href="https://teachmetonight.blogspot.com/2012/03/personality-tests.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Laura Kinsale suggested that women reading romance imagine themselves as the hero rather than the heroine</a>.</li><li>Fifty Shades of Grey <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20201009114946/https://www.prweb.com/releases/fifty_shades_of_grey_was_the_best_selling_book_of_the_decade_in_the_u_s_the_npd_group_says/prweb16796783.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sold a lot of fucking copies</a>. <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210126090129/https://www.cbronline.com/analytics/50-shades-of-grey-bigger-than-the-bible-16072011/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A lot</a>. A lot!</li><li>Lori Perkins was the editor of <a href="https://amzn.to/4jvD1Jn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fifty Writers on Fifty Shades of Grey</a>. You can also check out <a href="https://amzn.to/2Djqg68" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hard Core Romance: Fifty Shades of Grey, Bestsellers, and Society</a> by Eva Illouz.</li><li>Jen refers to Christian as the <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/02/the-real-marlboro-man/385447/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Marlboro Man</a>, a symbol of a kind of gruff, male, American renegade loner.</li><li><a href="https://www.bustle.com/articles/65251-bdsm-contracts-really-exist-im-a-sexual-submissive-and-heres-how-fifty-shades-got-them" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">BDSM contracts are a thing!</a></li><li><a href="https://www.bustle.com/p/where-do-kinks-come-from-its-complicated-41467" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Where does Kink come from?</a> And <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20201112014443/https://www.elitedaily.com/p/what-fifty-shades-gets-right-wrong-about-bdsm-according-to-expert-8224269" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">what Fifty Shades gets right and wrong</a> about kink and BDSM.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/9/1/s0303-fifty-shades-of-grey-by-el-james </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/9/1/s0303-fifty-shades-of-grey-by-el-james]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5f4ea7c960a99202f502d76d</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2020 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/b25f103b-f605-4b55-90f8-fd8f8958360b/fated-mates-s3e3-final-revb.mp3" length="87699168" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:25:22</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>3</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>If we’re going to talk about the last 10 years of romance — what we’d call modern romance — it’s basically impossible to do that out in the world without someone who doesn’t know much about the genre asking about EL James’s Fifty Shades of Grey. This week, Fated Mates is talking about Fifty Shades. Or, rather, we’re talking about what we&apos;re really talking about when we talk about Fifty Shades of Grey. 
At no point in this discussion do we talk about tampons. You’re welcome.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-b25f103b-f605-4b55-90f8-fd8f8958360b.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S03.02: Summer Reads: The &quot;Sarah Was Right&quot; Edition</title><itunes:title>Summer Reads: The &quot;Sarah Was Right&quot; Edition</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We’ve been gone for many weeks, as you know, and during that time we read a whole lot of books. In this, our first interstitial of Season Three, we’ll talk about some of those books…and also Jen will spend some really important time confirming that Sarah is, in fact, right. About everything. That’s canon now.</p><p>Next week, we’ll read Fifty Shades of Grey. We'll talk fan fiction, Christian Grey, 1st person POV, billionaires, the early 2010s, why the book mobilized so many readers, why it made so many others angry, and what we talk about when we talk about Fifty Shades of Grey. It’s Season Three. We’re back on our bullsh*t. Find Fifty Shades of Grey at Amazon, Barnes &amp; Noble, Apple Books, Kobo, or at your local indie.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li><a href="https://www.wired.com/2015/02/whats-up-with-cats-and-boxes/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cats like boxes</a>!&nbsp;<a href="https://www.livescience.com/61096-why-dogs-chew-everything.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dogs like to chew things</a>! Speaking of&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rube_Goldberg_machine" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rube Goldberg machines</a>, if you're ever in Chicago, you should really see&nbsp;<a href="https://www.msichicago.org/explore/whats-here/exhibits/swiss-jolly-ball/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the one at the Museum of Science and Industry</a>.</li><li>Who is the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bustle.com/articles/114524-13-cj-cregg-quotes-from-the-west-wing-to-use-when-youre-shutting-down-the-haters" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CJ Craig of "Bless her cotton socks" fame</a>, you ask?</li><li>Speaking of Vivian Stephens...We mentioned&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/7/6/s0245-vivian-stephens-acquisitions-with-librarian-steve-ammidown" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">our episode with Steve Ammidown on the books she aquired</a>&nbsp;was one of our favorite episodes, but you should really&nbsp;<a href="https://www.texasmonthly.com/the-culture/vivian-stephens-helped-turn-romance-writing-into-billion-dollar-industry/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">read this terrific interview with her</a>&nbsp;that was published in the September 2020 issue of Texas Monthly magazine.</li><li><a href="https://www.iheart.com/podcast-awards/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The iHeartRadio podcast awards</a>&nbsp;are a thing, and Jen just wants to be recognized.</li><li><a href="http://meljeanbrook.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Milla Vane also writes as Meljean Brook</a>, check out The Iron Duke if you like steampunk.&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/astrohydrangea/status/1288401330155876353?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">But all of us recommend against using blood as lube.</a></li><li>John Cusack's starring role as a hit man was in the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/80482/13-close-facts-about-grosse-pointe-blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">1997 movie Grosse Point Blank.</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/LaQuetteWrites" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LaQuette</a>&nbsp;left&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/3356130332?book_show_action=true&amp;from_review_page=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a perfect review on Goodreads</a>&nbsp;of Like Lovers Do in case you need more convincing.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/theLindashow/status/1283484090705084416?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Subscribe to Linda's calendar of virtual romance events</a>.</li><li>Did we mention there are&nbsp;<a href="https://jordandene.com/products/fated-mates-unisex-t-shirt?variant=35064557568151" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates t-shirts</a>&nbsp;now? Check out the shop at JenReadsRomance for&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/shop" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kelly's romancelandia buttons</a>, stickers, and cards, and her Resistance Buttons shop for&nbsp;<a href="https://www.resistancebuttons.com/product-page/biden-harris-multicolor-pack" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Biden Harris 2020 buttons</a>.</li><li>Next week,&nbsp;<em>Fifty Shades of Grey</em>. Our next read along book is going to be&nbsp;<em>A Heart of Blood and Ashes</em>. That's the way we want it.</li><li>Oh, and this hadn't been announced when we recorded, but Sarah wrote a contemporary novella during a pandemic, and it's coming out September 15th! Preorder&nbsp;<em>Naughty Brits</em>&nbsp;(an anthology with Sophie Jordan, Sierra Simone, Louisa Edwards and Tessa Gratton), wherever you get your ebooks:&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/32mLLLP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://bit.ly/naughtybritsnook" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nook</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://bit.ly/naughtybritskobo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://bit.ly/naughtybritsapple" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a>&nbsp;or&nbsp;<a href="https://bit.ly/naughtybritsgoogle" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Google</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/8/25/s032-summer-reads-interstitial-the-sarah-was-right-edition </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We’ve been gone for many weeks, as you know, and during that time we read a whole lot of books. In this, our first interstitial of Season Three, we’ll talk about some of those books…and also Jen will spend some really important time confirming that Sarah is, in fact, right. About everything. That’s canon now.</p><p>Next week, we’ll read Fifty Shades of Grey. We'll talk fan fiction, Christian Grey, 1st person POV, billionaires, the early 2010s, why the book mobilized so many readers, why it made so many others angry, and what we talk about when we talk about Fifty Shades of Grey. It’s Season Three. We’re back on our bullsh*t. Find Fifty Shades of Grey at Amazon, Barnes &amp; Noble, Apple Books, Kobo, or at your local indie.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li><a href="https://www.wired.com/2015/02/whats-up-with-cats-and-boxes/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cats like boxes</a>!&nbsp;<a href="https://www.livescience.com/61096-why-dogs-chew-everything.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dogs like to chew things</a>! Speaking of&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rube_Goldberg_machine" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rube Goldberg machines</a>, if you're ever in Chicago, you should really see&nbsp;<a href="https://www.msichicago.org/explore/whats-here/exhibits/swiss-jolly-ball/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the one at the Museum of Science and Industry</a>.</li><li>Who is the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bustle.com/articles/114524-13-cj-cregg-quotes-from-the-west-wing-to-use-when-youre-shutting-down-the-haters" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CJ Craig of "Bless her cotton socks" fame</a>, you ask?</li><li>Speaking of Vivian Stephens...We mentioned&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/7/6/s0245-vivian-stephens-acquisitions-with-librarian-steve-ammidown" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">our episode with Steve Ammidown on the books she aquired</a>&nbsp;was one of our favorite episodes, but you should really&nbsp;<a href="https://www.texasmonthly.com/the-culture/vivian-stephens-helped-turn-romance-writing-into-billion-dollar-industry/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">read this terrific interview with her</a>&nbsp;that was published in the September 2020 issue of Texas Monthly magazine.</li><li><a href="https://www.iheart.com/podcast-awards/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The iHeartRadio podcast awards</a>&nbsp;are a thing, and Jen just wants to be recognized.</li><li><a href="http://meljeanbrook.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Milla Vane also writes as Meljean Brook</a>, check out The Iron Duke if you like steampunk.&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/astrohydrangea/status/1288401330155876353?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">But all of us recommend against using blood as lube.</a></li><li>John Cusack's starring role as a hit man was in the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/80482/13-close-facts-about-grosse-pointe-blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">1997 movie Grosse Point Blank.</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/LaQuetteWrites" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LaQuette</a>&nbsp;left&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/3356130332?book_show_action=true&amp;from_review_page=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a perfect review on Goodreads</a>&nbsp;of Like Lovers Do in case you need more convincing.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/theLindashow/status/1283484090705084416?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Subscribe to Linda's calendar of virtual romance events</a>.</li><li>Did we mention there are&nbsp;<a href="https://jordandene.com/products/fated-mates-unisex-t-shirt?variant=35064557568151" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates t-shirts</a>&nbsp;now? Check out the shop at JenReadsRomance for&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/shop" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kelly's romancelandia buttons</a>, stickers, and cards, and her Resistance Buttons shop for&nbsp;<a href="https://www.resistancebuttons.com/product-page/biden-harris-multicolor-pack" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Biden Harris 2020 buttons</a>.</li><li>Next week,&nbsp;<em>Fifty Shades of Grey</em>. Our next read along book is going to be&nbsp;<em>A Heart of Blood and Ashes</em>. That's the way we want it.</li><li>Oh, and this hadn't been announced when we recorded, but Sarah wrote a contemporary novella during a pandemic, and it's coming out September 15th! Preorder&nbsp;<em>Naughty Brits</em>&nbsp;(an anthology with Sophie Jordan, Sierra Simone, Louisa Edwards and Tessa Gratton), wherever you get your ebooks:&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/32mLLLP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://bit.ly/naughtybritsnook" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nook</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://bit.ly/naughtybritskobo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://bit.ly/naughtybritsapple" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a>&nbsp;or&nbsp;<a href="https://bit.ly/naughtybritsgoogle" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Google</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/8/25/s032-summer-reads-interstitial-the-sarah-was-right-edition </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/8/25/s032-summer-reads-interstitial-the-sarah-was-right-edition]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5f457da70d7adb41661bf414</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2020 04:05:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/279b2e7e-f4b6-428e-aad9-ccfd78180e2f/fated-mates-season3episode2-reva.mp3" length="60869756" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>59:24</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>2</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We’ve been gone for many weeks, as you know, and during that time we read a whole lot of books. In this, our first interstitial of Season Three, we’ll talk about some of those books…and also Jen will spend some really important time confirming that Sarah is, in fact, right. About everything. That’s canon now.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-279b2e7e-f4b6-428e-aad9-ccfd78180e2f.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S03.01: Season Three: Back on our Bullsh*t</title><itunes:title>Season Three: Back on our Bullsh*t</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>SEASON THREE!</p><p>It’s here, we’re back, and we’re back on our bullsh*t because it’s 2020 and it’s all we have, honestly.</p><p><a href="https://fatedmates.net/the-books" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Season One</a> gave us a full lAD deep dive (if you’ve never read Kresley Cole’s Immortals After Dark, pandemic anxiety is a really good reason to start), and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/season-two-books-that-blooded-us" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Season Two</a> gave us <em>The Books That Blooded Us</em> -- the books that made us the romance readers we are.</p><p>Season Three will pick up where Season Two left off. This season, we'll tackle 15 (or so) books that did heavy lifting for the genre and for readers. Some of the books are transformative, some are juggernauts, and some are just truly excellent romance that shows how vast and magnificent the romance pool can get. All of them will show just how the genre works, and how it’s always changing the game.</p><p>We’ve also got some great interstitials planned, including some fabulous, brilliant guests on deck…and when Munro is released, we’ll (obviously) be here for you!</p><p>So...where do we begin? We begin in two weeks with a text that no one can deny transformed romance and the way the world looked at it: <em>Fifty Shades of Grey</em>. We'll talk fan fiction, Christian Grey, 1st person POV, billionaires, the early 2010s, why the book mobilized so many readers, why it made so many others angry, and the work it did to set the genre spinning in multiple directions over the last decade.</p><p>Get reading, y'all, we've got a lot to say. You can find Fifty Shades of Grey at <a href="https://amzn.to/349glLD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/fifty-shades-of-grey-e-l-james/1104280977" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/fifty-shades-of-grey/id509857961?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/fifty-shades-of-grey" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780345803481" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">at your local indie</a>.</p><p>Note: We are focusing on the <strong>first</strong> book in the trilogy, not the whole trilogy, though we will likely discuss the entire thing.</p><p>You have two weeks to read, but in the meantime, sit back, relax, and let us give you a preview of what's to come! Don't forget to like and subscribe in your favorite podcasting platform!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Did you notice our new intro music?</li><li>All about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.sciencenewsforstudents.org/article/explainer-co2-and-other-greenhouse-gases" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">carbon dioxide</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cdc.gov/co/faqs.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">carbon monoxide</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ada.org/en/member-center/oral-health-topics/nitrous-oxide" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">nitrous oxide.</a></li><li>In case you want to hear more about blood blow jobs (<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/11/1-were-gonna-come-back-to-biting-a-hunger-like-no-other" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Hunger Like No Other</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/4/8/11-lothaire" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lothaire</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/27/16-sweet-ruin" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sweet Ruin</a>) and blood handjobs (<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/2/18/s0224-quick-and-dirty-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Heart of Blood and Ashes</a>).</li><li>Here are some things you can do if you want to save American democracy:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vote.org/am-i-registered-to-vote/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">make sure you're registered to vote</a>&nbsp;(and keep checking),&nbsp;<a href="https://2020census.gov/en.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fill out the census</a>, if you can&nbsp;<a href="https://www.powerthepolls.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sign up to be a poll-worker</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://2020.indivisible.org/textbank/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">text bank</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://act.indivisible.org/signup/2020-phonebank" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">phone bank</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://postcardstovoters.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">write postcards to voters</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mycivicworkout.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">subscribe to the My Civic Workout newsletter</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://indivisible.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">join a local Indivisible Group</a>.</li><li>If you're not following&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/Celeste_pewter" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Celeste Pewter on twitter</a>, you should.&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/Celeste_pewter/status/1294467362662412288" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Here's her thread</a>&nbsp;on what you can do to&nbsp;<a href="https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/clarissajanlim/trump-post-office-usps-election-funding" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">help save the Post Office.</a></li><li><a href="https://bookriot.com/independent-bookstore-day-2020/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shop your local indie bookstore</a>! They need your support.</li><li>Jen and Sarah met for the first time at the&nbsp;<a href="https://printersrowlitfest.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Printer's Row Lit Fest</a>&nbsp;in Chicago.&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/the-books" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Catch up with season one</a>-- a read along of Kresley Cole's Immortals After Dark series,&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/season-two-books-that-blooded-us" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">and season two</a>--the Books that Blooded Us.</li><li>We love the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Gaslighter-Chicks/dp/B0858T5RM1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gaslighter album</a>, the song&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/BQg6R4Bhhz4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wet Ass Pussy</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/elections/kamala-harris.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kamala Harris</a>. All joking aside, there's nothing wrong with a wet ass pussy, and you can read The Vagina Bible to learn more about it.</li><li><a href="https://buffy.fandom.com/wiki/Potential_Slayer" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Potentials</a>&nbsp;were the pool of available women who might be tapped as Slayer.</li><li><a href="https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/the-lawless-pleasures-of-lee-childs-jack-reacher-novels" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen's reading Jack Reacher</a>&nbsp;books&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1287354787676200963?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with her friend Ernie</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://ew.com/books/2017/05/23/how-jack-reacher-characters-got-names/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Name is destiny</a>.</li><li>Katee Robert's taboo series is giving readers exactly what they want.</li><li>You want Fated Mates&nbsp;<a href="https://jordandene.com/collections/romance-sarah-maclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">shirts</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/shop" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">buttons</a>? Of course you do!</li><li>Up next:&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3ayKogZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fifty Shades of Grey</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/8/18/s031-season-three-back-on-our-bullsht </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SEASON THREE!</p><p>It’s here, we’re back, and we’re back on our bullsh*t because it’s 2020 and it’s all we have, honestly.</p><p><a href="https://fatedmates.net/the-books" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Season One</a> gave us a full lAD deep dive (if you’ve never read Kresley Cole’s Immortals After Dark, pandemic anxiety is a really good reason to start), and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/season-two-books-that-blooded-us" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Season Two</a> gave us <em>The Books That Blooded Us</em> -- the books that made us the romance readers we are.</p><p>Season Three will pick up where Season Two left off. This season, we'll tackle 15 (or so) books that did heavy lifting for the genre and for readers. Some of the books are transformative, some are juggernauts, and some are just truly excellent romance that shows how vast and magnificent the romance pool can get. All of them will show just how the genre works, and how it’s always changing the game.</p><p>We’ve also got some great interstitials planned, including some fabulous, brilliant guests on deck…and when Munro is released, we’ll (obviously) be here for you!</p><p>So...where do we begin? We begin in two weeks with a text that no one can deny transformed romance and the way the world looked at it: <em>Fifty Shades of Grey</em>. We'll talk fan fiction, Christian Grey, 1st person POV, billionaires, the early 2010s, why the book mobilized so many readers, why it made so many others angry, and the work it did to set the genre spinning in multiple directions over the last decade.</p><p>Get reading, y'all, we've got a lot to say. You can find Fifty Shades of Grey at <a href="https://amzn.to/349glLD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/fifty-shades-of-grey-e-l-james/1104280977" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/fifty-shades-of-grey/id509857961?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/fifty-shades-of-grey" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780345803481" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">at your local indie</a>.</p><p>Note: We are focusing on the <strong>first</strong> book in the trilogy, not the whole trilogy, though we will likely discuss the entire thing.</p><p>You have two weeks to read, but in the meantime, sit back, relax, and let us give you a preview of what's to come! Don't forget to like and subscribe in your favorite podcasting platform!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Did you notice our new intro music?</li><li>All about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.sciencenewsforstudents.org/article/explainer-co2-and-other-greenhouse-gases" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">carbon dioxide</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cdc.gov/co/faqs.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">carbon monoxide</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ada.org/en/member-center/oral-health-topics/nitrous-oxide" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">nitrous oxide.</a></li><li>In case you want to hear more about blood blow jobs (<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/11/1-were-gonna-come-back-to-biting-a-hunger-like-no-other" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Hunger Like No Other</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/4/8/11-lothaire" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lothaire</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/27/16-sweet-ruin" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sweet Ruin</a>) and blood handjobs (<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/2/18/s0224-quick-and-dirty-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Heart of Blood and Ashes</a>).</li><li>Here are some things you can do if you want to save American democracy:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vote.org/am-i-registered-to-vote/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">make sure you're registered to vote</a>&nbsp;(and keep checking),&nbsp;<a href="https://2020census.gov/en.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fill out the census</a>, if you can&nbsp;<a href="https://www.powerthepolls.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sign up to be a poll-worker</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://2020.indivisible.org/textbank/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">text bank</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://act.indivisible.org/signup/2020-phonebank" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">phone bank</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://postcardstovoters.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">write postcards to voters</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mycivicworkout.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">subscribe to the My Civic Workout newsletter</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://indivisible.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">join a local Indivisible Group</a>.</li><li>If you're not following&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/Celeste_pewter" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Celeste Pewter on twitter</a>, you should.&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/Celeste_pewter/status/1294467362662412288" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Here's her thread</a>&nbsp;on what you can do to&nbsp;<a href="https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/clarissajanlim/trump-post-office-usps-election-funding" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">help save the Post Office.</a></li><li><a href="https://bookriot.com/independent-bookstore-day-2020/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shop your local indie bookstore</a>! They need your support.</li><li>Jen and Sarah met for the first time at the&nbsp;<a href="https://printersrowlitfest.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Printer's Row Lit Fest</a>&nbsp;in Chicago.&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/the-books" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Catch up with season one</a>-- a read along of Kresley Cole's Immortals After Dark series,&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/season-two-books-that-blooded-us" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">and season two</a>--the Books that Blooded Us.</li><li>We love the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Gaslighter-Chicks/dp/B0858T5RM1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gaslighter album</a>, the song&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/BQg6R4Bhhz4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wet Ass Pussy</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/elections/kamala-harris.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kamala Harris</a>. All joking aside, there's nothing wrong with a wet ass pussy, and you can read The Vagina Bible to learn more about it.</li><li><a href="https://buffy.fandom.com/wiki/Potential_Slayer" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Potentials</a>&nbsp;were the pool of available women who might be tapped as Slayer.</li><li><a href="https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/the-lawless-pleasures-of-lee-childs-jack-reacher-novels" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen's reading Jack Reacher</a>&nbsp;books&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1287354787676200963?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with her friend Ernie</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://ew.com/books/2017/05/23/how-jack-reacher-characters-got-names/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Name is destiny</a>.</li><li>Katee Robert's taboo series is giving readers exactly what they want.</li><li>You want Fated Mates&nbsp;<a href="https://jordandene.com/collections/romance-sarah-maclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">shirts</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/shop" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">buttons</a>? Of course you do!</li><li>Up next:&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3ayKogZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fifty Shades of Grey</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/8/18/s031-season-three-back-on-our-bullsht </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/8/18/s031-season-three-back-on-our-bullsht]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5f3bc2f9ee93e012319d0419</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2020 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/a5d4618d-7b83-478a-bdc4-f9edda346339/fm-s3e1-final-128k.mp3" length="49667246" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>49:40</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>1</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:summary>SEASON THREE! 

It’s here, we’re back, and we’re back on our bullsh*t because it’s 2020 and it’s all we have, honestly. 

Season One gave us a full lAD deep dive (if you’ve never read Kresley Cole’s Immortals After Dark, pandemic anxiety is a really good reason to start), and Season Two gave us The Books That Blooded Us -- the books that made us the romance readers we are.

Season Three will pick up where Season Two left off. This season, we&apos;ll tackle 15 (or so) books that did heavy lifting for the genre and for readers. Some of the books are transformative, some are juggernauts, and some are just truly excellent romance that shows how vast and magnificent the romance pool can get. All of them will show just how the genre works, and how it’s always changing the game. 

We’ve also got some great interstitials planned, including some fabulous, brilliant guests on deck…and when Munro is released, we’ll (obviously) be here for you!

So...where do we begin? We begin in two weeks with a text that no one can deny transformed romance and the way the world looked at it: Fifty Shades of Grey. We&apos;ll talk fan fiction, Christian Grey, 1st person POV, billionaires, the early 2010s, why the book mobilized so many readers, why it made so many others angry, and the work it did to set the genre spinning in multiple directions over the last decade.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-a5d4618d-7b83-478a-bdc4-f9edda346339.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>Representation of Trauma Survivors in Romance: Adriana Herrera and Jen Prokop</title><itunes:title>Representation of Trauma Survivors in Romance: Adriana Herrera and Jen Prokop</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Surely the silverest lining of the Pandemic is how many fabulous conversations are happening all around us. A few weeks ago, Jen had an incredibly important conversation about the work of romance and writing trauma and trauma survivors. You can <a href="https://www.facebook.com/laura.adriana.94801" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">follow Adriana on Facebook</a> and watch the video of the conversation there!</p><p>Representation of Trauma Survivors in Romance: Adriana Herrera and Jen Prokop</p><p>Fated Mates</p><p><a href="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/static1.squarespace.com/static/5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644/t/5f3352799830484e5a94435f/1597199033377/fated-mates-jen-and-adriana.mp3/original/fated-mates-jen-and-adriana.mp3?download=true" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Download</a></p><p>As you know, Adriana is one of our favorite people…preorder her next book, <a href="https://amzn.to/2DMt5gn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Here to Stay</a>—you deserve a treat!</p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening — we hope you’re having a great (and safe!) summer! While we’re apart, if you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!</p><p>Oh, and did you know Sarah<em> </em>has a new book out? <em>Daring &amp; the Duke</em> is officially here! Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/36enOHt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeKobo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeBN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://apple.co/394AXnZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeBAM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Books-a-Million</a> or from <a href="https://bit.ly/3foEa5a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>.</p><p>We’ll see you next week, for the first episode of Season 3!</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely the silverest lining of the Pandemic is how many fabulous conversations are happening all around us. A few weeks ago, Jen had an incredibly important conversation about the work of romance and writing trauma and trauma survivors. You can <a href="https://www.facebook.com/laura.adriana.94801" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">follow Adriana on Facebook</a> and watch the video of the conversation there!</p><p>Representation of Trauma Survivors in Romance: Adriana Herrera and Jen Prokop</p><p>Fated Mates</p><p><a href="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/static1.squarespace.com/static/5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644/t/5f3352799830484e5a94435f/1597199033377/fated-mates-jen-and-adriana.mp3/original/fated-mates-jen-and-adriana.mp3?download=true" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Download</a></p><p>As you know, Adriana is one of our favorite people…preorder her next book, <a href="https://amzn.to/2DMt5gn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Here to Stay</a>—you deserve a treat!</p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening — we hope you’re having a great (and safe!) summer! While we’re apart, if you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!</p><p>Oh, and did you know Sarah<em> </em>has a new book out? <em>Daring &amp; the Duke</em> is officially here! Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/36enOHt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeKobo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeBN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://apple.co/394AXnZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeBAM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Books-a-Million</a> or from <a href="https://bit.ly/3foEa5a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>.</p><p>We’ll see you next week, for the first episode of Season 3!</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/8/12/representation-of-trauma-survivors-in-romance-adriana-herrera-and-jen-prokop]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5f334b8247d6c96ddc4c0e29</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2020 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/9b7bb4dc-2ca9-44fe-8dca-3591a6051f0a/fated-mates-jen-and-adriana.mp3" length="58874156" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:00:52</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>49</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>49</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Surely the silverest lining of the Pandemic is how many fabulous conversations are happening all around us. A few weeks ago, Jen had an incredibly important conversation about the work of romance and writing trauma and trauma survivors. You can follow Adriana on Facebook and watch the video of the conversation there! 

As you know, Adriana is one of our favorite people…preorder her next book, Here to Stay—you deserve a treat!</itunes:summary></item><item><title>No Write Way With VE Schwab and Sarah MacLean</title><itunes:title>No Write Way With VE Schwab and Sarah MacLean</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Since the start of the Pandemic, brilliant VE Schwab has been hosting authors from across the spectrum of genres on Instagram Live Saturdays at 3pm et for her No Write Way series, talking about books, writing, the world and whatever else comes at them. Several weeks ago, Sarah joined her, and they had a great conversation about romance and writing, and we’re thrilled to share the audio with you this week!</p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/veschwab" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Follow VE on Instagram</a>, preorder her next book, <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780765387561" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Invisible Life of Addie Larue</em></a>, and don’t miss her lives on Saturday afternoons!</p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening — we hope you’re having a great (and safe!) July! While we’re apart, if you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!</p><p>Oh, and did you know Sarah<em> </em>has a new book out? <em>Daring &amp; the Duke</em> is officially here! Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/36enOHt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeKobo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeBN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://apple.co/394AXnZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeBAM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Books-a-Million</a> or from <a href="https://bit.ly/3foEa5a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since the start of the Pandemic, brilliant VE Schwab has been hosting authors from across the spectrum of genres on Instagram Live Saturdays at 3pm et for her No Write Way series, talking about books, writing, the world and whatever else comes at them. Several weeks ago, Sarah joined her, and they had a great conversation about romance and writing, and we’re thrilled to share the audio with you this week!</p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/veschwab" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Follow VE on Instagram</a>, preorder her next book, <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5775/9780765387561" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Invisible Life of Addie Larue</em></a>, and don’t miss her lives on Saturday afternoons!</p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening — we hope you’re having a great (and safe!) July! While we’re apart, if you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!</p><p>Oh, and did you know Sarah<em> </em>has a new book out? <em>Daring &amp; the Duke</em> is officially here! Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/36enOHt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeKobo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeBN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://apple.co/394AXnZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeBAM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Books-a-Million</a> or from <a href="https://bit.ly/3foEa5a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/8/5/no-write-way-with-ve-schwab-and-sarah-maclean]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5f2a0cbbb31c5d6608910c7e</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2020 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/acb97530-5912-4be2-bc55-2ca84a790276/fated-mates-veschwab.mp3" length="61552648" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:03:35</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>48</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>48</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Since the start of the Pandemic, brilliant VE Schwab has been hosting authors from across the spectrum of genres on Instagram Live Saturdays at 3pm et for her No Write Way series, talking about books, writing, the world and whatever else comes at them. Several weeks ago, Sarah joined her, and they had a great conversation about  romance and writing, and we’re thrilled to share the audio with you this week!</itunes:summary></item><item><title>Fated Mates on the Deerfield Library Podcast</title><itunes:title>Fated Mates on the Deerfield Library Podcast</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We're still on hiatus between seasons, but your earholes don't have to be! This week, the <a href="https://deerfieldlibrary.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Deerfield Illinois Public Library</a> turned the tables on us and interviewed us for their podcast! We had a great time talking about romance and why it's the very very best. Subscribe to the <a href="https://deerfieldlibrary.org/podcast/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">DPL Podcast</a> for more great interviews!</p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening — we hope you’re having a great (and safe!) July! While we’re apart, if you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!</p><p>Oh, and did you know Sarah<em> </em>has a new book out? <em>Daring &amp; the Duke</em> is officially here! Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/36enOHt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeKobo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeBN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://apple.co/394AXnZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeBAM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Books-a-Million</a> or from <a href="https://bit.ly/3foEa5a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We're still on hiatus between seasons, but your earholes don't have to be! This week, the <a href="https://deerfieldlibrary.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Deerfield Illinois Public Library</a> turned the tables on us and interviewed us for their podcast! We had a great time talking about romance and why it's the very very best. Subscribe to the <a href="https://deerfieldlibrary.org/podcast/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">DPL Podcast</a> for more great interviews!</p><p>Thank you, as always, for listening — we hope you’re having a great (and safe!) July! While we’re apart, if you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!</p><p>Oh, and did you know Sarah<em> </em>has a new book out? <em>Daring &amp; the Duke</em> is officially here! Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/36enOHt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeKobo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeBN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://apple.co/394AXnZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeBAM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Books-a-Million</a> or from <a href="https://bit.ly/3foEa5a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/7/28/fated-mates-on-the-deerfield-library-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5f200e44d7d2395c4976ebc1</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2020 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/dcb1847a-67e4-4d8a-8b83-807139278b3b/fated-mates-library-interview-final-master-revb.mp3" length="53156321" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>54:50</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>47</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>47</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We&apos;re still on hiatus between seasons, but your earholes don&apos;t have to be! This week, the Deerfield Illinois Public Library turned the tables on us and interviewed us for their podcast! We had a great time talking about romance and why it&apos;s the very very best.  Subscribe to the DPL Podcast for more great interviews.</itunes:summary></item><item><title>Fated Tropes! A Live Episode with Learning the Tropes</title><itunes:title>Fated Tropes! A Live Episode with Learning the Tropes</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p class="">We are on hiatus for the rest of July, but never fear! We're still bringing fun content to your earholes! </p><p class="">In June, we recorded a live crossover episode of Fated Mates/Learning the Tropes, during which we played delightful games, talked about books, and got to the bottom (or maybe not) of Learning the Tropes's Clayton's interesting romance kinks. We are delighted to share that episode with you this week! </p><p class="">If you subscribe to both of our podcasts, this will be a duplicate episode this week. If you *don't* subscribe to both podcasts...you definitely should. Find <a href="https://learningthetropes.podbean.com   ">Learning the Tropes</a> wherever you listen to podcasts! Erin and Clayton are two of our favorite people. </p><p class="">Thank you, as always, for listening — we hope you’re having a great (and safe!) July! While we’re apart, if you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful! </p><p class="">Oh, and did you know Sarah<em> </em>has a new book out? <em>Daring &amp; the Duke</em> is officially here! Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/36enOHt">Amazon</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeKobo">Kobo</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeBN">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://apple.co/394AXnZ">Apple Books</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeBAM">Books-a-Million</a> or from <a href="https://bit.ly/3foEa5a">your local indie</a>, or order it signed from the wonderful independent bookstore, <a href="https://www.banksquarebooks.com/sarahmaclean">Savoy Bookshop in RI</a>, where she is through the end of July! </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="">We are on hiatus for the rest of July, but never fear! We're still bringing fun content to your earholes! </p><p class="">In June, we recorded a live crossover episode of Fated Mates/Learning the Tropes, during which we played delightful games, talked about books, and got to the bottom (or maybe not) of Learning the Tropes's Clayton's interesting romance kinks. We are delighted to share that episode with you this week! </p><p class="">If you subscribe to both of our podcasts, this will be a duplicate episode this week. If you *don't* subscribe to both podcasts...you definitely should. Find <a href="https://learningthetropes.podbean.com   ">Learning the Tropes</a> wherever you listen to podcasts! Erin and Clayton are two of our favorite people. </p><p class="">Thank you, as always, for listening — we hope you’re having a great (and safe!) July! While we’re apart, if you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful! </p><p class="">Oh, and did you know Sarah<em> </em>has a new book out? <em>Daring &amp; the Duke</em> is officially here! Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/36enOHt">Amazon</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeKobo">Kobo</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeBN">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://apple.co/394AXnZ">Apple Books</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeBAM">Books-a-Million</a> or from <a href="https://bit.ly/3foEa5a">your local indie</a>, or order it signed from the wonderful independent bookstore, <a href="https://www.banksquarebooks.com/sarahmaclean">Savoy Bookshop in RI</a>, where she is through the end of July! </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/7/22/fated-tropes-a-live-episode-with-learning-the-tropes]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5f17459d2396e87d82623396</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/166ed449-3ef1-4cce-b7e5-94955e73bfda/interstitial-logo-3000.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2020 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/293b119d-388b-4304-904e-8093e9183ba4/fated-tropes-final-master-reva.mp3" length="95314244" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:34:12</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>46</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>46</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We are on hiatus for the rest of July, but never fear! We&apos;re still bringing fun content to your earholes!

In June, we recorded a live crossover episode of Fated Mates/Learning the Tropes, during which we played delightful games, talked about books, and got to the bottom (or maybe not) of Learning the Tropes&apos;s Clayton&apos;s interesting romance kinks. We are delighted to share that episode with you this week!</itunes:summary></item><item><title>S02.45: Vivian Stephens&apos; Acquisitions with librarian Steve Ammidown</title><itunes:title>Vivian Stephens&apos; Acquisitions with librarian Steve Ammidown</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It felt fitting that our final episode of Season 2—during which we celebrated so many of the vintage romances that blooded us—would be with someone we could fully geek out with! We are thrilled to have Steve Ammidown, romance nerd and archivist at the Browne Popular Culture Library at Bowling Green State University, with us today to talk about Vivian Stephens and early category romances. To prepare, all three of us read some of the earliest American category romances, and wow were they a ride! We’re talking women who work, marriage in romance, older heroines, the impact of Vietnam on 1980s romances, and more. Strap in!</p><p>We’re on hiatus for the next three weeks, but you’ll hear some great alternative content on Wednesdays — including crossover episodes and interviews we’ve done in other places. Thank you, as always, for listening — we hope you’re having a great (and safe!) summer. While we’re apart, if you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!</p><p>Oh, and did you know Sarah<em> </em>has a new book out? <em>Daring &amp; the Duke</em> is officially here! Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/36enOHt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeKobo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeBN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://apple.co/394AXnZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeBAM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Books-a-Million</a> or from <a href="https://bit.ly/3foEa5a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>, or order it signed from the wonderful independent bookstore, <a href="https://www.banksquarebooks.com/sarahmaclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Savoy Bookshop in RI</a>, where she is through the end of July!</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Welcome <a href="https://twitter.com/stegan" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Steve Ammidown</a>, the Manuscripts &amp; Outreach Archivist at the <a href="https://www.bgsu.edu/library/pcl.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Browne Popular Culture Library</a> at the Bowling Green State University in Bowling Green, Ohio.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivian_Stephens" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vivian Stephens</a> was <a href="https://twitter.com/BGSU_PopCultLib/status/1263539514225700866?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">one of the original founders of RWA and one of the most important editors in romance</a>. At the Browne Pop Culture library, there is a special <a href="https://www.bgsu.edu/library/pcl/named/stephens.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vivian Stephens collection</a>. Vivian was instrumental in bringing category romance to America and <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BzBYXXm_C7T3NESY3NbdunZFRxzpXAPG/view?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">created the Candlelight Ecstacy Romance line</a>, which put sex on page in a new way. She also created the Harlequin American line.</li><li>Vivian recruited a series of authors who changed the face of romance: <a href="https://jayneannkrentz.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jayne Castle/Jayne Ann Krenz</a>, <a href="https://sandrabrown.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sandra Brown</a>, and later <a href="https://beverlyjenkins.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Beverly Jenkins</a>. <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VXl-yjmB4VdYv030Qk73Wr3-V_lWVTbO/view?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Here is an early interview with Vivian about her work and the world of romance</a>.</li><li>At the last RITAs ceremony--in the future, it will be <a href="https://www.rwa.org/Online/Awards/The_Vivian/Online/Awards/The_Vivian/The_Vivian.aspx?hkey=eec58833-3be8-431e-bba9-9ab33cfcf985" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Vivians!</a>-- there was a great video of <a href="https://youtu.be/shL1kNwr0nA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">romance firsts</a>. You should watch it.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2ZsfCCe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dangerous Men and Adventurous Women</a> was a 90s era collection of romance essays by romance writers to combat a lot of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reading_the_Romance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">not great</a> academic research on romance.</li><li>The late 70s and early 80s were a tumultuous time in American history: <a href="http://eprints.lse.ac.uk/65973/1/blogs.lse.ac.uk-While%20veterans%20of%20World%20War%20II%20prospered%20Vietnam%20veterans%20suffered%20economically%20after%20coming%20home%5B1%5D.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the return of Vietnam soldiers</a>, <a href="https://www.marketplace.org/2018/09/05/5-things-70s-inflation/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a finacial crisis</a>, and <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/02/upshot/the-divorce-surge-is-over-but-the-myth-lives-on.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a huge divorce boom</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/print/20091116/29587-end-of-an-era-mall-bookstores.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The mall bookstores</a>, B. Dalton and Waldenbooks, were alive and well in the 80s. <a href="https://teachmetonight.blogspot.com/2019/08/racism-and-corporate-romance-buyer.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The buyers at these bookstores, including Sue Grimshaw,</a> were powerful gatekeepers who had a great amount of power over the romance genre.</li><li><a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/2018/05/last-rt-kathryn-falk-announces-end-romantic-times/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kathryn Falk and Romantic Times</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/stegan/status/1255566058171371520?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Flavia Kngightsbridge was a famous RT columnist</a>, and at RT conventions there was something called the <a href="https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2005/apr/30/mr-romance-chosen-tonight/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mr. Romance Competition</a>, and everyone who has ever seen it is like...whoa.</li><li>Marisa de Zavala, whose real name is Celina Mullan, also wrote as Ana Lisa de Leon and Rachel Scott. See more about Marisa <a href="https://twitter.com/alexisdaria/status/1262844975517237256" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">on this great thread about her from Alexis Daria</a>!</li><li>Entwined Destinies was one of the first category romances with Black characters by a Black author, Elsie Washington writing as Rosalind Welles. Although it's very difficult to find a copy of Entwined Destinies, but <a href="https://digitalgallery.bgsu.edu/exhibits/show/entwineddestinies/item/39354" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">BGSU has a great photograph of Vivian and Elsie together.</a></li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/7/6/s0245-vivian-stephens-acquisitions-with-librarian-steve-ammidown </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It felt fitting that our final episode of Season 2—during which we celebrated so many of the vintage romances that blooded us—would be with someone we could fully geek out with! We are thrilled to have Steve Ammidown, romance nerd and archivist at the Browne Popular Culture Library at Bowling Green State University, with us today to talk about Vivian Stephens and early category romances. To prepare, all three of us read some of the earliest American category romances, and wow were they a ride! We’re talking women who work, marriage in romance, older heroines, the impact of Vietnam on 1980s romances, and more. Strap in!</p><p>We’re on hiatus for the next three weeks, but you’ll hear some great alternative content on Wednesdays — including crossover episodes and interviews we’ve done in other places. Thank you, as always, for listening — we hope you’re having a great (and safe!) summer. While we’re apart, if you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!</p><p>Oh, and did you know Sarah<em> </em>has a new book out? <em>Daring &amp; the Duke</em> is officially here! Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/36enOHt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeKobo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeBN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://apple.co/394AXnZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeBAM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Books-a-Million</a> or from <a href="https://bit.ly/3foEa5a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>, or order it signed from the wonderful independent bookstore, <a href="https://www.banksquarebooks.com/sarahmaclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Savoy Bookshop in RI</a>, where she is through the end of July!</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Welcome <a href="https://twitter.com/stegan" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Steve Ammidown</a>, the Manuscripts &amp; Outreach Archivist at the <a href="https://www.bgsu.edu/library/pcl.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Browne Popular Culture Library</a> at the Bowling Green State University in Bowling Green, Ohio.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivian_Stephens" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vivian Stephens</a> was <a href="https://twitter.com/BGSU_PopCultLib/status/1263539514225700866?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">one of the original founders of RWA and one of the most important editors in romance</a>. At the Browne Pop Culture library, there is a special <a href="https://www.bgsu.edu/library/pcl/named/stephens.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vivian Stephens collection</a>. Vivian was instrumental in bringing category romance to America and <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BzBYXXm_C7T3NESY3NbdunZFRxzpXAPG/view?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">created the Candlelight Ecstacy Romance line</a>, which put sex on page in a new way. She also created the Harlequin American line.</li><li>Vivian recruited a series of authors who changed the face of romance: <a href="https://jayneannkrentz.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jayne Castle/Jayne Ann Krenz</a>, <a href="https://sandrabrown.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sandra Brown</a>, and later <a href="https://beverlyjenkins.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Beverly Jenkins</a>. <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VXl-yjmB4VdYv030Qk73Wr3-V_lWVTbO/view?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Here is an early interview with Vivian about her work and the world of romance</a>.</li><li>At the last RITAs ceremony--in the future, it will be <a href="https://www.rwa.org/Online/Awards/The_Vivian/Online/Awards/The_Vivian/The_Vivian.aspx?hkey=eec58833-3be8-431e-bba9-9ab33cfcf985" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Vivians!</a>-- there was a great video of <a href="https://youtu.be/shL1kNwr0nA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">romance firsts</a>. You should watch it.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2ZsfCCe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dangerous Men and Adventurous Women</a> was a 90s era collection of romance essays by romance writers to combat a lot of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reading_the_Romance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">not great</a> academic research on romance.</li><li>The late 70s and early 80s were a tumultuous time in American history: <a href="http://eprints.lse.ac.uk/65973/1/blogs.lse.ac.uk-While%20veterans%20of%20World%20War%20II%20prospered%20Vietnam%20veterans%20suffered%20economically%20after%20coming%20home%5B1%5D.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the return of Vietnam soldiers</a>, <a href="https://www.marketplace.org/2018/09/05/5-things-70s-inflation/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a finacial crisis</a>, and <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/02/upshot/the-divorce-surge-is-over-but-the-myth-lives-on.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a huge divorce boom</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/print/20091116/29587-end-of-an-era-mall-bookstores.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The mall bookstores</a>, B. Dalton and Waldenbooks, were alive and well in the 80s. <a href="https://teachmetonight.blogspot.com/2019/08/racism-and-corporate-romance-buyer.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The buyers at these bookstores, including Sue Grimshaw,</a> were powerful gatekeepers who had a great amount of power over the romance genre.</li><li><a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/2018/05/last-rt-kathryn-falk-announces-end-romantic-times/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kathryn Falk and Romantic Times</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/stegan/status/1255566058171371520?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Flavia Kngightsbridge was a famous RT columnist</a>, and at RT conventions there was something called the <a href="https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2005/apr/30/mr-romance-chosen-tonight/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mr. Romance Competition</a>, and everyone who has ever seen it is like...whoa.</li><li>Marisa de Zavala, whose real name is Celina Mullan, also wrote as Ana Lisa de Leon and Rachel Scott. See more about Marisa <a href="https://twitter.com/alexisdaria/status/1262844975517237256" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">on this great thread about her from Alexis Daria</a>!</li><li>Entwined Destinies was one of the first category romances with Black characters by a Black author, Elsie Washington writing as Rosalind Welles. Although it's very difficult to find a copy of Entwined Destinies, but <a href="https://digitalgallery.bgsu.edu/exhibits/show/entwineddestinies/item/39354" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">BGSU has a great photograph of Vivian and Elsie together.</a></li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/7/6/s0245-vivian-stephens-acquisitions-with-librarian-steve-ammidown </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/7/6/s0245-vivian-stephens-acquisitions-with-librarian-steve-ammidown]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5f037c1feac63b3c4c63c023</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2020 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/9a073ad3-cd30-4282-a9a0-31f21a8572f9/fated-mates-steve-ammidown.mp3" length="80988147" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:20:00</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>45</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>45</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:summary>It felt fitting that our final episode of Season 2—during which we celebrated so many of the vintage romances that blooded us—would be with someone we could fully geek out with! We are thrilled to have Steve Ammidown, romance nerd and archivist at the Browne Popular Culture Library at Bowling Green State University, with us today to talk about Vivian Stephens and early category romances. To prepare, all three of us read some of the earliest American category romances, and wow were they a ride! We’re talking women who work, marriage in romance, older heroines, the impact of Vietnam on 1980s romances, and more. Strap in!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-9a073ad3-cd30-4282-a9a0-31f21a8572f9.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S02.44: Freewheeling with Kennedy Ryan</title><itunes:title>Freewheeling with Kennedy Ryan</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We’re so excited to have Kennedy Ryan with us this week — someone who was blooded not once, but <em>twice</em> by old school historicals! Listen to us talk powerful heroines, her brilliant Queen Move, how so much romance is political and why those old romances are still worth reading — problematic and all. </p><p>Summer is here, and next week is the final episode of Season Two, with a few others to come while we take a few weeks off. To read romance novels. Obviously. Season Three begins in August!</p><p>While we’re apart, if you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!</p><p>Oh, and did you know Sarah<em> </em>had a book out last week? <em>Daring &amp; the Duke</em> is officially here! Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/36enOHt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeKobo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeBN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://apple.co/394AXnZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeBAM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Books-a-Million</a> or from <a href="https://bit.ly/3foEa5a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>, or order it signed from the wonderful independent bookstore, <a href="https://www.banksquarebooks.com/sarahmaclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Savoy Bookshop in RI</a>, where she is for the. month of July!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome <a href="https://kennedyryanwrites.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kennedy Ryan</a>! You know what they say about <a href="https://thegrio.com/2014/04/10/are-all-preachers-kids-wild-and-rebellious/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">pastors' kids</a>. Just kidding, she was a <a href="https://www.scarleteen.com/article/sexuality" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">late bloomer</a>.</li><li>Teacher Jen would like a moment to talk about vocabulary acquisition: <a href="https://www.readingrockets.org/article/building-your-childs-vocabulary" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Parents can help kids learn new words by modeling</a>, but reading is really the X factor. You can <a href="http://testyourvocab.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">take this vocabulary test</a> to see the rough size of your own vocabulary, but this information about how kids acquire new words is actually pretty simple: <a href="http://testyourvocab.com/blog/2013-05-09-Reading-habits" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">read lots of fiction when you're young.</a></li><li>Believe it or not, there was never a Carole Mortimer book titled Frustration. But perhaps you might be interested in her other single word titles: <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3084727-untamed?ac=1&amp;from_search=true&amp;qid=N5TSlsyDix&amp;rank=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Untamed</a>, <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1311202.Gypsy?from_search=true&amp;from_srp=true&amp;qid=Ph61YaT4lP&amp;rank=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gypsy</a> (yikes!), or <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2376490.Witchchild?from_search=true&amp;from_srp=true&amp;qid=XJB2lTJSjG&amp;rank=2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Witchchild</a>.</li><li>Prince had lots of protégées, including <a href="https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-sexy-holy-saga-of-vanity-princes-muse-who-found-god" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vanity</a> (Rick James's ex-girlfiend! <a href="https://twitter.com/CherisHodges/status/1278672020138582018?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">thank you for that info Cheris Hodges</a>!), <a href="https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/15-great-prince-songs-that-were-hits-for-other-artists-72421/sheena-easton-sugar-walls-1985-171946/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sheena Easton</a>, and <a href="https://ew.com/article/2016/04/22/prince-female-protege/#:~:text=Best%20known%20as%20the%20co,with%20the%20Bangles%20in%201986." rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">so many others.</a> Speaking of Sheena Easton, <a href="http://nightflight.com/in-1984-prince-wanted-the-world-to-hear-sheena-easton-sing-about-her-vaginas-sugar-walls/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Prince wrote the lyrics for Sugar Walls</a> and it is <a href="https://www.songfacts.com/facts/sheena-easton/sugar-walls" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">pretty dirty</a>. Ava DuVernay was slated to direct a documentary on Prince for Netflix, but <a href="https://ultimateprince.com/prince-netflix-documentary-director/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">stepped down over "creative differences."</a> And if you can ever travel again, Jen highly recommends going on the tour of <a href="https://www.paisleypark.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Paisley Park</a>.</li><li>Jen mentioned that Iris Johansen, Fayrene Preston, and Kay Hooper wrote several series about a family called the Delaneys, and <a href="http://www.kayhooper.com/classic/delaneys.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kay Hooper tells the story of how it happened on her website</a>. PS. the <a href="https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/31q2ATIQ-7L._AC_UL600_SR375,600_.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">original covers</a> for <a href="https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/917yZ4k0FVL.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Delaneys</a>: <a href="https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/516blMo0kvL._SX309_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Untamed Years</a> are amazing. And in case you're looking for a house to buy, maybe <a href="https://www.ajc.com/lifestyles/author-iris-johansen-million-mansion-headed-auction/Oepj8rtYUCjMn6cz6wlcoM/#:~:text=Crime%20and%20romance%20author%20Iris%20Johansen%20is%20selling%20her%20Cartersville,plaza%20and%20an%20outdoor%20kitchen." rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Iris Johansen's place might be to your liking</a>?</li><li>Going back to the archives, Candace Proctor (who also writes as C.S. Harris) and Penelope Williamson <a href="https://csharris.net/author_formative.php" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">are sisters</a>?</li><li>So, in romances, being a wet nurse is just a plot device. <a href="https://daily.jstor.org/lifesaving-horrifying-history-wet-nurses/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">But the history of wet nurses is, to no one's surprise, rather grim.</a> <a href="https://amzn.to/3fbvler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sunset Embrace</a> is the Sandra Brown book with the wet nurse. In Vanessa Riley's newest-- <a href="https://amzn.to/3f8OYE8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Duke, The Lady, and a Baby</a> -- the heroine has to sneak in to feed her own son and manages to get herself hired as his wet nurse. In Romeo and Juliet <a href="https://educationblog.oup.com/secondary/english/insights-the-nurse" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the nurse</a> said that Juliet was "The prettiest babe that e’er I nursed." <a href="https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/why-its-so-hard-to-make-a-better-baby-formula" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">In a pinch, Enfamil is the way to go</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/mary-queen-of-scots-beheaded" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mary Queen of Scots didn't come to a good end</a>. So maybe just read <a href="https://amzn.to/3ebXe4I" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shadowheart</a>?</li><li><a href="https://www.ferris.edu/jimcrow/mulatto/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Tragic Mulatto is a harmful anti-Black trope</a>.</li><li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130609111712/http://www.wwltv.com/news/Garden-District-novelist-sentenced-in-FEMA-fraud-116964553.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Meagan McKinney defrauded the government during Katrina and landed in jail</a>, which is why we are never going to read one of her books for Fated Mates.</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We’re so excited to have Kennedy Ryan with us this week — someone who was blooded not once, but <em>twice</em> by old school historicals! Listen to us talk powerful heroines, her brilliant Queen Move, how so much romance is political and why those old romances are still worth reading — problematic and all. </p><p>Summer is here, and next week is the final episode of Season Two, with a few others to come while we take a few weeks off. To read romance novels. Obviously. Season Three begins in August!</p><p>While we’re apart, if you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!</p><p>Oh, and did you know Sarah<em> </em>had a book out last week? <em>Daring &amp; the Duke</em> is officially here! Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/36enOHt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeKobo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeBN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://apple.co/394AXnZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeBAM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Books-a-Million</a> or from <a href="https://bit.ly/3foEa5a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>, or order it signed from the wonderful independent bookstore, <a href="https://www.banksquarebooks.com/sarahmaclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Savoy Bookshop in RI</a>, where she is for the. month of July!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome <a href="https://kennedyryanwrites.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kennedy Ryan</a>! You know what they say about <a href="https://thegrio.com/2014/04/10/are-all-preachers-kids-wild-and-rebellious/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">pastors' kids</a>. Just kidding, she was a <a href="https://www.scarleteen.com/article/sexuality" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">late bloomer</a>.</li><li>Teacher Jen would like a moment to talk about vocabulary acquisition: <a href="https://www.readingrockets.org/article/building-your-childs-vocabulary" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Parents can help kids learn new words by modeling</a>, but reading is really the X factor. You can <a href="http://testyourvocab.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">take this vocabulary test</a> to see the rough size of your own vocabulary, but this information about how kids acquire new words is actually pretty simple: <a href="http://testyourvocab.com/blog/2013-05-09-Reading-habits" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">read lots of fiction when you're young.</a></li><li>Believe it or not, there was never a Carole Mortimer book titled Frustration. But perhaps you might be interested in her other single word titles: <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3084727-untamed?ac=1&amp;from_search=true&amp;qid=N5TSlsyDix&amp;rank=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Untamed</a>, <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1311202.Gypsy?from_search=true&amp;from_srp=true&amp;qid=Ph61YaT4lP&amp;rank=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gypsy</a> (yikes!), or <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2376490.Witchchild?from_search=true&amp;from_srp=true&amp;qid=XJB2lTJSjG&amp;rank=2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Witchchild</a>.</li><li>Prince had lots of protégées, including <a href="https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-sexy-holy-saga-of-vanity-princes-muse-who-found-god" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vanity</a> (Rick James's ex-girlfiend! <a href="https://twitter.com/CherisHodges/status/1278672020138582018?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">thank you for that info Cheris Hodges</a>!), <a href="https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/15-great-prince-songs-that-were-hits-for-other-artists-72421/sheena-easton-sugar-walls-1985-171946/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sheena Easton</a>, and <a href="https://ew.com/article/2016/04/22/prince-female-protege/#:~:text=Best%20known%20as%20the%20co,with%20the%20Bangles%20in%201986." rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">so many others.</a> Speaking of Sheena Easton, <a href="http://nightflight.com/in-1984-prince-wanted-the-world-to-hear-sheena-easton-sing-about-her-vaginas-sugar-walls/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Prince wrote the lyrics for Sugar Walls</a> and it is <a href="https://www.songfacts.com/facts/sheena-easton/sugar-walls" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">pretty dirty</a>. Ava DuVernay was slated to direct a documentary on Prince for Netflix, but <a href="https://ultimateprince.com/prince-netflix-documentary-director/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">stepped down over "creative differences."</a> And if you can ever travel again, Jen highly recommends going on the tour of <a href="https://www.paisleypark.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Paisley Park</a>.</li><li>Jen mentioned that Iris Johansen, Fayrene Preston, and Kay Hooper wrote several series about a family called the Delaneys, and <a href="http://www.kayhooper.com/classic/delaneys.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kay Hooper tells the story of how it happened on her website</a>. PS. the <a href="https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/31q2ATIQ-7L._AC_UL600_SR375,600_.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">original covers</a> for <a href="https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/917yZ4k0FVL.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Delaneys</a>: <a href="https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/516blMo0kvL._SX309_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Untamed Years</a> are amazing. And in case you're looking for a house to buy, maybe <a href="https://www.ajc.com/lifestyles/author-iris-johansen-million-mansion-headed-auction/Oepj8rtYUCjMn6cz6wlcoM/#:~:text=Crime%20and%20romance%20author%20Iris%20Johansen%20is%20selling%20her%20Cartersville,plaza%20and%20an%20outdoor%20kitchen." rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Iris Johansen's place might be to your liking</a>?</li><li>Going back to the archives, Candace Proctor (who also writes as C.S. Harris) and Penelope Williamson <a href="https://csharris.net/author_formative.php" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">are sisters</a>?</li><li>So, in romances, being a wet nurse is just a plot device. <a href="https://daily.jstor.org/lifesaving-horrifying-history-wet-nurses/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">But the history of wet nurses is, to no one's surprise, rather grim.</a> <a href="https://amzn.to/3fbvler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sunset Embrace</a> is the Sandra Brown book with the wet nurse. In Vanessa Riley's newest-- <a href="https://amzn.to/3f8OYE8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Duke, The Lady, and a Baby</a> -- the heroine has to sneak in to feed her own son and manages to get herself hired as his wet nurse. In Romeo and Juliet <a href="https://educationblog.oup.com/secondary/english/insights-the-nurse" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the nurse</a> said that Juliet was "The prettiest babe that e’er I nursed." <a href="https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/why-its-so-hard-to-make-a-better-baby-formula" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">In a pinch, Enfamil is the way to go</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/mary-queen-of-scots-beheaded" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mary Queen of Scots didn't come to a good end</a>. So maybe just read <a href="https://amzn.to/3ebXe4I" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shadowheart</a>?</li><li><a href="https://www.ferris.edu/jimcrow/mulatto/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Tragic Mulatto is a harmful anti-Black trope</a>.</li><li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130609111712/http://www.wwltv.com/news/Garden-District-novelist-sentenced-in-FEMA-fraud-116964553.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Meagan McKinney defrauded the government during Katrina and landed in jail</a>, which is why we are never going to read one of her books for Fated Mates.</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/7/6/s0244-freewheeling-with-kennedy-ryan]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5f037bef957a6128e70220a8</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2020 17:40:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/09138109-409b-44b6-be6e-f1a51e81206e/fated-mates-kennedy-ryan-final-master.mp3" length="83918432" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:22:16</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>44</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>44</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We’re so excited to have Kennedy Ryan with us this week — someone who was blooded not once, but twice by old school historicals! Listen to us talk powerful heroines, her brilliant Queen Move, how so much romance is political and why those old romances are still worth reading — problematic and all.</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/47e4cc9d-975b-4c60-bcf9-5ceccf2de338/index.html" type="text/html"/><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-09138109-409b-44b6-be6e-f1a51e81206e.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S02.43: Daring &amp; the Duke: It&apos;s Grace and Ewan Week!</title><itunes:title>Daring &amp; the Duke: It&apos;s Grace and Ewan Week!</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Sarah has a new book out, so Jen is playing host this week, and Sarah is playing guest, and Jen is really outrageously good at it…move over Terry Gross! Find Daring &amp; the Duke wherever books are sold, including <a href="https://amzn.to/36enOHt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeKobo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeBN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://apple.co/394AXnZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeBAM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Books-a-Million</a>, or at your local indie via <a href="https://bit.ly/3foEa5a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>You can listen to all of our walk-up music suggestions on <a href="https://fatedmates.net/music-referenced-in-the-fated-mates-podcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Fated Mates Spotify playlist</a>. But in case you've never seen The Music Man, the song Marian the Librarian is very cute.</li><li>Sarah wants to be a guest on <a href="https://www.npr.org/programs/fresh-air/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fresh Air</a>. (Jen obviously does, too, but has to actual cause to be interviewed. So #TeamSarah.) Do we know anyone who knows <a href="https://www.npr.org/people/2100593/terry-gross" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Terry Gross</a>?</li><li>If you can't wait, you can listen to us on the <a href="https://deerfieldlibrary.org/podcast/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Deerfield Public Libary podcast</a>, but we're going to drop it into our own feed later this month. So no worries.</li><li>Jen thinks Sarah is in her <a href="https://pitchfork.com/features/poptimist/7811-poptimist-29/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">imperial period</a>--a phrase Jen learned from listening to the <a href="https://slate.com/podcasts/hit-parade" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hit Parade podcast</a>.</li><li>The past year have had some great books about rage and feminism: <a href="https://amzn.to/38fW4Ur" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Seven Necessary Sins for Women and Girls</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/2YMe1qx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Good and Mad</a>, and <a href="https://amzn.to/3ijYshx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hood Feminism</a> are three we recommend.</li><li><a href="https://eh.net/encyclopedia/child-labor-during-the-british-industrial-revolution/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">We put children in factories all day</a>, so of course kids fought, too. Sarah recommends <a href="https://amzn.to/2BpHo9p" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Fair Fight</a>, a historical novel, about bareknuckle fighting kids.</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/X6I_dKUYyI4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Statler &amp; Waldorf are the two old dudes up on the balcony during The Muppet Show</a>.</li><li><a href="https://crimereads.com/a-victorian-era-guide-to-oppressing-women/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Victorian Age wasn't so great for women and other marginalized people</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80224905" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">That Jeffrey Epstein documentary</a> is on Netflix.</li><li>Ewan's year-long break was inspired by <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/27/17-the-player" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Player</a>.</li><li>The myth of <a href="https://www.greekmythology.com/Myths/Mortals/Cyrene/cyrene.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apollo and Cyrene</a>, and also a little about <a href="https://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/neoc_1/hd_neoc_1.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">neo-classicism</a>. One of our favorite myth retellings of the past few years, is <a href="https://amzn.to/2D0d4CV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Circe by Madeline Miller</a>. Jessica Avery presented a paper at the Popular Culture Association about <a href="https://twitter.com/KristinNoone/status/1118906107756519424" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">mythology in Sarah's books</a>.</li><li><a href="http://s18.middlebury.edu/AMST0325A/Lorde_The_Masters_Tools.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Master's Tools will Never Dismantle the Master's House</a> is the name of the essay by Audre Lorde. You should read it.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/6/30/s0243-daring-and-the-duke </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah has a new book out, so Jen is playing host this week, and Sarah is playing guest, and Jen is really outrageously good at it…move over Terry Gross! Find Daring &amp; the Duke wherever books are sold, including <a href="https://amzn.to/36enOHt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeKobo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeBN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://apple.co/394AXnZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeBAM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Books-a-Million</a>, or at your local indie via <a href="https://bit.ly/3foEa5a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>You can listen to all of our walk-up music suggestions on <a href="https://fatedmates.net/music-referenced-in-the-fated-mates-podcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Fated Mates Spotify playlist</a>. But in case you've never seen The Music Man, the song Marian the Librarian is very cute.</li><li>Sarah wants to be a guest on <a href="https://www.npr.org/programs/fresh-air/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fresh Air</a>. (Jen obviously does, too, but has to actual cause to be interviewed. So #TeamSarah.) Do we know anyone who knows <a href="https://www.npr.org/people/2100593/terry-gross" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Terry Gross</a>?</li><li>If you can't wait, you can listen to us on the <a href="https://deerfieldlibrary.org/podcast/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Deerfield Public Libary podcast</a>, but we're going to drop it into our own feed later this month. So no worries.</li><li>Jen thinks Sarah is in her <a href="https://pitchfork.com/features/poptimist/7811-poptimist-29/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">imperial period</a>--a phrase Jen learned from listening to the <a href="https://slate.com/podcasts/hit-parade" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hit Parade podcast</a>.</li><li>The past year have had some great books about rage and feminism: <a href="https://amzn.to/38fW4Ur" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Seven Necessary Sins for Women and Girls</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/2YMe1qx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Good and Mad</a>, and <a href="https://amzn.to/3ijYshx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hood Feminism</a> are three we recommend.</li><li><a href="https://eh.net/encyclopedia/child-labor-during-the-british-industrial-revolution/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">We put children in factories all day</a>, so of course kids fought, too. Sarah recommends <a href="https://amzn.to/2BpHo9p" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Fair Fight</a>, a historical novel, about bareknuckle fighting kids.</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/X6I_dKUYyI4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Statler &amp; Waldorf are the two old dudes up on the balcony during The Muppet Show</a>.</li><li><a href="https://crimereads.com/a-victorian-era-guide-to-oppressing-women/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Victorian Age wasn't so great for women and other marginalized people</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80224905" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">That Jeffrey Epstein documentary</a> is on Netflix.</li><li>Ewan's year-long break was inspired by <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/27/17-the-player" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Player</a>.</li><li>The myth of <a href="https://www.greekmythology.com/Myths/Mortals/Cyrene/cyrene.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apollo and Cyrene</a>, and also a little about <a href="https://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/neoc_1/hd_neoc_1.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">neo-classicism</a>. One of our favorite myth retellings of the past few years, is <a href="https://amzn.to/2D0d4CV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Circe by Madeline Miller</a>. Jessica Avery presented a paper at the Popular Culture Association about <a href="https://twitter.com/KristinNoone/status/1118906107756519424" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">mythology in Sarah's books</a>.</li><li><a href="http://s18.middlebury.edu/AMST0325A/Lorde_The_Masters_Tools.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Master's Tools will Never Dismantle the Master's House</a> is the name of the essay by Audre Lorde. You should read it.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/6/30/s0243-daring-and-the-duke </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/6/30/s0243-daring-and-the-duke]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5efbb8d39335c61a5671bf71</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/1f1a71b3-daae-44f8-bcad-ef0b6af1682e/fm-yellow.jpeg"/><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2020 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/efe869c4-07f0-4e6b-9651-c3929ff974de/fated-mates-daring-and-the-duke-sarah-maclean-final-master.mp3" length="70371505" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:08:34</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>43</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>43</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Sarah has a new book out, so Jen is playing host this week, and Sarah is playing guest, and Jen is really outrageously good at it…move over Terry Gross! Find Daring &amp; the Duke wherever books are sold, including Amazon, Kobo, B&amp;N, Apple Books, Books-a-Million, or at your local indie via Bookshop.org.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-efe869c4-07f0-4e6b-9651-c3929ff974de.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S02.42: Unusual Historicals: Freewheeling with Joanna Shupe</title><itunes:title>Unusual Historicals: Freewheeling with Joanna Shupe</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This week it's one of our very faves, Joanna Shupe is back! Joanna has a new book out June 30th -- The Devil of Downtown -- which is basically perfection, so we're talking about why Gilded Age romance is the best, and why everyone should be reading unusual historicals (historicals set outside the Regency in England). Get ready, your TBR will groan after this one!</p><p>Oh, and did you know Sarah<em> also </em>has a book out June 30th? Order <em>Daring &amp; the Duke</em> from <a href="https://amzn.to/36enOHt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeKobo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeBN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://apple.co/394AXnZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeBAM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Books-a-Million</a> or from <a href="https://bit.ly/3foEa5a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>, or order it signed from her local indie, <a href="http://wordbookstores.com/sarahmaclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">WORD Bookstore</a>, and get a special edition Fated Mates sticker with your purchase!</p><p>As summer approaches, if you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!</p><p>Oh, and did you know Sarah<em> also </em>has a book out June 30th? Order <em>Daring &amp; the Duke</em> from <a href="https://amzn.to/36enOHt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeKobo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeBN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://apple.co/394AXnZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeBAM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Books-a-Million</a> or from <a href="https://bit.ly/3foEa5a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>, or order it signed from her local indie, <a href="http://wordbookstores.com/sarahmaclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">WORD Bookstore</a>, and get a special edition Fated Mates sticker with your purchase!</p><p>As summer approaches, if you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>This is Joanna's second time on Fated Mates. The first was to discuss the <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/2/5/65-freewheeling-with-joanna-shupe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">enemies to lovers trope in <em>Prisoner of My Desire</em> and <em>Kiss of a Demon King</em>.</a></li><li>Speaking of IAD: ever seen the <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ileIRCUNZ0HoOYSrTsFBW0XxweCfYciaUsPYHiJNR-Y/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">IAD spreadsheet of Wonder</a>, created be <a href="https://twitter.com/MsSarahHawley" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah Hawley</a> from the Wicked Wallflowers Podcast? Oh, and if you haven't read it, why not do it this summer? There's a group read going on right now on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/248609269570128/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a subgroup of Sarah's Facebook Book Club</a>!</li><li>All about <a href="https://lithub.com/writing-in-the-shadow-of-a-masterpiece-on-homage/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Homage</a>, <a href="https://literarydevices.net/allusion/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">allusion</a>, and <a href="https://www.litcharts.com/literary-devices-and-terms/allegory" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">allegory</a> in case it's been a while since you were in an English class.</li><li><a href="http://www.modernlibrary.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Modern Library!</a> Where are our romances?</li><li>Sarah has <a href="http://www.sarahmaclean.net/sarah-in-person" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a bunch of online events</a> this summer.</li><li>Many of the old American historicals support an ahistorical white settler, <a href="https://americanexperience.si.edu/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Manifest-Destiny-and-Indian-Removal.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Manifest Destiny</a>, story of Westward Expansion. <em>Savage Thunder</em> was a particularly problematic one, and Jen only read it for the <a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2018/01/who-did-it-better-on-horse.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"sex on a horse"</a> scene. Maybe watch some <a href="https://www.hbo.com/deadwood" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Deadwood</a> instead?</li><li>Which came first? <a href="https://www.marxists.org/history/erol/uk.hightide/fm-euro.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Eurocentrism</a> or the <a href="https://www.anglophilesunited.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Anglophiles</a>?</li><li><em>Gone With the Wind</em> is just <a href="https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2017/08/yes-gone-with-the-wind-is-another-neo-confederate-monument.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lost Cause propaganda</a>. Don't at us. Speaking of wars: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleonic_Wars" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Napoleonic Wars</a> took place during the Regency, but no one ever really talks about them in Regency romances.</li><li>Romance's Regency blueprint was created by <a href="https://www.janetogeorgette.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jane Austen and Georgette Heyer.</a></li><li><a href="https://allthatsinteresting.com/history-of-piercing/5#:~:text=Nipple%20Piercings&amp;text=In%20the%20mid%2D14th%20century,jewelry%20to%20match%20the%20dress." rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nipple piercing has been around for a long time</a>. Look for it in Joanna's next book.</li><li>Joanna's fascination with <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilded_Age" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Gilded Age </a>started with <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2012/02/13/a-rooting-interest" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Edith Wharton</a>. The time period is the setting for the Uptown Girls series, but the Gilded Age also has <a href="https://time.com/5122375/american-inequality-gilded-age/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lots of uncomfortable</a> <a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-21/john-d-rockefeller-was-almost-three-times-richer-than-bezos" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">parallels to today</a>. If you're looking for more information about The Gilded Age, you should know that Jack Mulligan was based on real life mobster <a href="https://historycollection.com/rise-mob-12-people-events-created-american-mafia/4/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Paul Kelly</a>. Joanna also recommends the following books: <a href="https://amzn.to/3hTn6pb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Low Life</em></a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/3hXoAi8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Gangs of New York</em></a>, and <a href="https://amzn.to/37TAq8m" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Incredible New York</em></a>. If you want to hear Joanna talk about The Gilded Age, <a href="https://www.facebook.com/events/292796415428667/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">join her Facebook Group on July 9th, 2020 for a virtual tour!</a></li><li>If you haven't ever been to <a href="https://www.libertyellisfoundation.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ellis Island</a>, it's excellent. It's a dynamic museum with tons of interesting facts about European immigration to New York. Speaking of history, if you're interested in learning about <a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/long-lasting-legacy-great-migration-180960118/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Great Migration,</a> the setting of <em>A Champion's Heart</em>, you should read <em>The Warmth of Other Suns</em>.</li><li>Food is everyone's love language until <a href="https://www.collectorsweekly.com/articles/the-1950s-most-nauseating-jell-o-soaked-recipes/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the jello molds</a> and <a href="https://www.tasteofhome.com/collection/vintage-recipes-inspired-swingin-60s/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">casseroles</a> start to arrive.</li><li><a href="https://lithub.com/a-century-of-reading-the-10-books-that-defined-the-1960s/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">You actually can read lots of books about the 60s</a>.</li><li>What do you mean you haven't seen <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hudsucker_Proxy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Hudsucker Proxy</a>?</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/6/23/s0242-unusual-historical-interstitial-with-joanna-shupe </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week it's one of our very faves, Joanna Shupe is back! Joanna has a new book out June 30th -- The Devil of Downtown -- which is basically perfection, so we're talking about why Gilded Age romance is the best, and why everyone should be reading unusual historicals (historicals set outside the Regency in England). Get ready, your TBR will groan after this one!</p><p>Oh, and did you know Sarah<em> also </em>has a book out June 30th? Order <em>Daring &amp; the Duke</em> from <a href="https://amzn.to/36enOHt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeKobo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeBN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://apple.co/394AXnZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeBAM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Books-a-Million</a> or from <a href="https://bit.ly/3foEa5a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>, or order it signed from her local indie, <a href="http://wordbookstores.com/sarahmaclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">WORD Bookstore</a>, and get a special edition Fated Mates sticker with your purchase!</p><p>As summer approaches, if you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!</p><p>Oh, and did you know Sarah<em> also </em>has a book out June 30th? Order <em>Daring &amp; the Duke</em> from <a href="https://amzn.to/36enOHt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeKobo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeBN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://apple.co/394AXnZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeBAM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Books-a-Million</a> or from <a href="https://bit.ly/3foEa5a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>, or order it signed from her local indie, <a href="http://wordbookstores.com/sarahmaclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">WORD Bookstore</a>, and get a special edition Fated Mates sticker with your purchase!</p><p>As summer approaches, if you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>This is Joanna's second time on Fated Mates. The first was to discuss the <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/2/5/65-freewheeling-with-joanna-shupe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">enemies to lovers trope in <em>Prisoner of My Desire</em> and <em>Kiss of a Demon King</em>.</a></li><li>Speaking of IAD: ever seen the <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ileIRCUNZ0HoOYSrTsFBW0XxweCfYciaUsPYHiJNR-Y/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">IAD spreadsheet of Wonder</a>, created be <a href="https://twitter.com/MsSarahHawley" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah Hawley</a> from the Wicked Wallflowers Podcast? Oh, and if you haven't read it, why not do it this summer? There's a group read going on right now on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/248609269570128/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a subgroup of Sarah's Facebook Book Club</a>!</li><li>All about <a href="https://lithub.com/writing-in-the-shadow-of-a-masterpiece-on-homage/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Homage</a>, <a href="https://literarydevices.net/allusion/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">allusion</a>, and <a href="https://www.litcharts.com/literary-devices-and-terms/allegory" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">allegory</a> in case it's been a while since you were in an English class.</li><li><a href="http://www.modernlibrary.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Modern Library!</a> Where are our romances?</li><li>Sarah has <a href="http://www.sarahmaclean.net/sarah-in-person" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a bunch of online events</a> this summer.</li><li>Many of the old American historicals support an ahistorical white settler, <a href="https://americanexperience.si.edu/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Manifest-Destiny-and-Indian-Removal.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Manifest Destiny</a>, story of Westward Expansion. <em>Savage Thunder</em> was a particularly problematic one, and Jen only read it for the <a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2018/01/who-did-it-better-on-horse.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"sex on a horse"</a> scene. Maybe watch some <a href="https://www.hbo.com/deadwood" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Deadwood</a> instead?</li><li>Which came first? <a href="https://www.marxists.org/history/erol/uk.hightide/fm-euro.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Eurocentrism</a> or the <a href="https://www.anglophilesunited.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Anglophiles</a>?</li><li><em>Gone With the Wind</em> is just <a href="https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2017/08/yes-gone-with-the-wind-is-another-neo-confederate-monument.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lost Cause propaganda</a>. Don't at us. Speaking of wars: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleonic_Wars" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Napoleonic Wars</a> took place during the Regency, but no one ever really talks about them in Regency romances.</li><li>Romance's Regency blueprint was created by <a href="https://www.janetogeorgette.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jane Austen and Georgette Heyer.</a></li><li><a href="https://allthatsinteresting.com/history-of-piercing/5#:~:text=Nipple%20Piercings&amp;text=In%20the%20mid%2D14th%20century,jewelry%20to%20match%20the%20dress." rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nipple piercing has been around for a long time</a>. Look for it in Joanna's next book.</li><li>Joanna's fascination with <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilded_Age" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Gilded Age </a>started with <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2012/02/13/a-rooting-interest" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Edith Wharton</a>. The time period is the setting for the Uptown Girls series, but the Gilded Age also has <a href="https://time.com/5122375/american-inequality-gilded-age/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lots of uncomfortable</a> <a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-21/john-d-rockefeller-was-almost-three-times-richer-than-bezos" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">parallels to today</a>. If you're looking for more information about The Gilded Age, you should know that Jack Mulligan was based on real life mobster <a href="https://historycollection.com/rise-mob-12-people-events-created-american-mafia/4/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Paul Kelly</a>. Joanna also recommends the following books: <a href="https://amzn.to/3hTn6pb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Low Life</em></a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/3hXoAi8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Gangs of New York</em></a>, and <a href="https://amzn.to/37TAq8m" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Incredible New York</em></a>. If you want to hear Joanna talk about The Gilded Age, <a href="https://www.facebook.com/events/292796415428667/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">join her Facebook Group on July 9th, 2020 for a virtual tour!</a></li><li>If you haven't ever been to <a href="https://www.libertyellisfoundation.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ellis Island</a>, it's excellent. It's a dynamic museum with tons of interesting facts about European immigration to New York. Speaking of history, if you're interested in learning about <a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/long-lasting-legacy-great-migration-180960118/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Great Migration,</a> the setting of <em>A Champion's Heart</em>, you should read <em>The Warmth of Other Suns</em>.</li><li>Food is everyone's love language until <a href="https://www.collectorsweekly.com/articles/the-1950s-most-nauseating-jell-o-soaked-recipes/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the jello molds</a> and <a href="https://www.tasteofhome.com/collection/vintage-recipes-inspired-swingin-60s/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">casseroles</a> start to arrive.</li><li><a href="https://lithub.com/a-century-of-reading-the-10-books-that-defined-the-1960s/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">You actually can read lots of books about the 60s</a>.</li><li>What do you mean you haven't seen <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hudsucker_Proxy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Hudsucker Proxy</a>?</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/6/23/s0242-unusual-historical-interstitial-with-joanna-shupe </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/6/23/s0242-unusual-historical-interstitial-with-joanna-shupe]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5ef23cc5cbb0e444d3b80fbe</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2020 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/a8bf10f5-d0a1-4390-aa31-f68f3f40296d/fated-mates-unusual-romance-final-master-revb.mp3" length="77685838" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:15:10</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>42</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>42</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:summary>This week it&apos;s one of our very faves, Joanna Shupe is back! Joanna has a new book out June 30th -- The Devil of Downtown -- which is basically perfection, so we&apos;re talking about why Gilded Age romance is the best, and why everyone should be reading unusual historicals (historicals set outside the Regency in England). Get ready, your TBR will groan after this one!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-a8bf10f5-d0a1-4390-aa31-f68f3f40296d.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S02.41: Audiobooks with Voice Actor Justine Eyre</title><itunes:title>Audiobooks with Voice Actor Justine Eyre</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This one’s for you, audio readers! We’re thrilled to have a freewheeling episode this week featuring the fantastically talented Justine Eyre, who has narrated Sarah’s last seven books! Sarah &amp; Justine had never talked until this conversation, when we were able to ask <em>all </em>the questions we’ve always had about how audiobooks work, and what makes them so great. And stay tuned until the end of the episode, when you can hear the first two chapters of <a href="https://libro.fm/audiobooks/9780063017054-daring-and-the-duke" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the audiobook of <em>Daring &amp; the Duke</em></a>, available wherever audiobooks are sold, June 30th!</p><p>We might not be doing read alongs until August, but that doesn’t mean your TBR won’t still be groaning under the weight of our recommendations — we’ve got a bunch of rec episodes lined up for summer…</p><p>Oh, and did you know Sarah has a book out in two weeks? Order <em>Daring &amp; the Duke</em> from <a href="https://amzn.to/36enOHt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeKobo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeBN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://apple.co/394AXnZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeBAM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Books-a-Million</a> or from <a href="https://bit.ly/3foEa5a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>, or order it signed from her local indie, <a href="http://wordbookstores.com/sarahmaclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">WORD Bookstore</a>, and get a special edition Fated Mates sticker with your purchase!</p><p>As summer approaches, if you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome <a href="https://www.audible.com/ep/NGHV2-Eyre" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Justine Eyre</a>! Justine has narrated all of Sarah's books since <em>Never Judge a Lady by Her Cover</em>.</li><li>Join Sarah's <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/osrbc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Old School Romance Book Club</a> (OSRBC) on Facebook.</li><li>Is <a href="https://daily.jstor.org/sorry-but-jane-eyre-isnt-the-perfect-romance-you-want-it-to-be/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jane Eyre</a> really "our favorite Jane"? <a href="https://www.bustle.com/articles/169661-why-jane-austen-is-a-must-read-for-romance-novel-lovers" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jane Austen</a> would like a word.</li><li>Justine talked a lot about how audiobooks are made, but here's another great explainer about the role of <a href="https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/540364/secrets-of-audiobook-narrators" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">narrators</a> and <a href="https://www.vox.com/2018/1/17/16885604/how-audiobooks-made" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">audiobook production</a>.</li><li>We recorded this before J. K. Rowling's latest terrible TERF rant, so take Jen's praise of <a href="https://bookriot.com/2013/12/09/stephen-fry-vs-jim-dale-harry-potter-narrators/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jim Dale's narration</a>with a grain of salt.</li><li>Justine mentioned <a href="https://scottbrick.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scott Brick</a> as a mentor, and his site has <a href="https://scottbrick.net/articles/158079" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a guide </a>for those interested in becoming narrators.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/6/16/s0241-audiobook-interstitial-with-voice-actor-justine-eyre </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This one’s for you, audio readers! We’re thrilled to have a freewheeling episode this week featuring the fantastically talented Justine Eyre, who has narrated Sarah’s last seven books! Sarah &amp; Justine had never talked until this conversation, when we were able to ask <em>all </em>the questions we’ve always had about how audiobooks work, and what makes them so great. And stay tuned until the end of the episode, when you can hear the first two chapters of <a href="https://libro.fm/audiobooks/9780063017054-daring-and-the-duke" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the audiobook of <em>Daring &amp; the Duke</em></a>, available wherever audiobooks are sold, June 30th!</p><p>We might not be doing read alongs until August, but that doesn’t mean your TBR won’t still be groaning under the weight of our recommendations — we’ve got a bunch of rec episodes lined up for summer…</p><p>Oh, and did you know Sarah has a book out in two weeks? Order <em>Daring &amp; the Duke</em> from <a href="https://amzn.to/36enOHt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeKobo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeBN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://apple.co/394AXnZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeBAM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Books-a-Million</a> or from <a href="https://bit.ly/3foEa5a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>, or order it signed from her local indie, <a href="http://wordbookstores.com/sarahmaclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">WORD Bookstore</a>, and get a special edition Fated Mates sticker with your purchase!</p><p>As summer approaches, if you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome <a href="https://www.audible.com/ep/NGHV2-Eyre" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Justine Eyre</a>! Justine has narrated all of Sarah's books since <em>Never Judge a Lady by Her Cover</em>.</li><li>Join Sarah's <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/osrbc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Old School Romance Book Club</a> (OSRBC) on Facebook.</li><li>Is <a href="https://daily.jstor.org/sorry-but-jane-eyre-isnt-the-perfect-romance-you-want-it-to-be/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jane Eyre</a> really "our favorite Jane"? <a href="https://www.bustle.com/articles/169661-why-jane-austen-is-a-must-read-for-romance-novel-lovers" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jane Austen</a> would like a word.</li><li>Justine talked a lot about how audiobooks are made, but here's another great explainer about the role of <a href="https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/540364/secrets-of-audiobook-narrators" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">narrators</a> and <a href="https://www.vox.com/2018/1/17/16885604/how-audiobooks-made" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">audiobook production</a>.</li><li>We recorded this before J. K. Rowling's latest terrible TERF rant, so take Jen's praise of <a href="https://bookriot.com/2013/12/09/stephen-fry-vs-jim-dale-harry-potter-narrators/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jim Dale's narration</a>with a grain of salt.</li><li>Justine mentioned <a href="https://scottbrick.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scott Brick</a> as a mentor, and his site has <a href="https://scottbrick.net/articles/158079" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a guide </a>for those interested in becoming narrators.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/6/16/s0241-audiobook-interstitial-with-voice-actor-justine-eyre </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/6/16/s0241-audiobook-interstitial-with-voice-actor-justine-eyre]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5ee9318534a165122ad2eb5d</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2020 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/dafef184-b2c7-408f-acd4-ad42adf14702/fated-mates-justine-eyre-final-master.mp3" length="82186148" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:22:03</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>41</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>41</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:summary>This one’s for you, audio readers! We’re thrilled to have a freewheeling episode this week featuring the fantastically talented Justine Eyre, who has narrated Sarah’s last seven books! Sarah &amp; Justine had never talked until this conversation, when we were able to ask all the questions we’ve always had about how audiobooks work, and what makes them so great. And stay tuned until the end of the episode, when you can hear the first two chapters of the audiobook of Daring &amp; the Duke, available wherever audiobooks are sold, June 30th!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-dafef184-b2c7-408f-acd4-ad42adf14702.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S02.40: A Kingdom of Dreams by Judith McNaught: A Romance Reader&apos;s Romance</title><itunes:title>A Kingdom of Dreams by Judith McNaught: A Romance Reader&apos;s Romance</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It’s the last read-along of Season Two! We’re reading Judith McNaught’s A Kingdom of Dreams, which is the actual book that blooded Sarah when she was wee. This week we’re talking old-school romance, what McNaught was doing with this book and this hero who is so unlike all the heroes who came before him, and why (book) Jennifer is the perfect namesake for (our) Jennifer.</p><p>We might not be doing read alongs until August, but that doesn’t mean your TBR won’t still be groaning under the weight of our recommendations — we’ve got a bunch of rec episodes lined up for summer….oh, and did you know Sarah has a book out in three weeks? Order it from <a href="https://amzn.to/36enOHt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeKobo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeBN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://apple.co/394AXnZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeBAM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Books-a-Million</a> or from <a href="https://bit.ly/3foEa5a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>, or order it signed from her local indie, <a href="http://wordbookstores.com/sarahmaclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">WORD Bookstore</a>, and get a special edition Fated Mates sticker with your purchase!</p><p>As summer approaches, if you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marty_McFly" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Marty McFly</a>, played by Michael J. Fox, was the main character in an excellent 1985 time-traveling movie called <a href="https://www.backtothefuture.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Back to the Future</a>.</li><li>Sarah's next book, <em>Daring and the Duke</em>, comes out at the end of the month. <a href="https://www.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Preorder from WORD</a> in Brooklyn and you'll recieve <a href="https://twitter.com/FatedMates/status/1263064000310448128?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a limited edition yellow Fated Mates sticker</a>.</li><li><em>Whitney, My Love</em> is an early McNaught historical romance that the author changed because in the original text, the hero rapes and horsewhips the heroine. The hero of <em>A Kingdom of Dreams</em>, Royce Westmoreland, is one of Clayton's ancestors, but we think he is McNaught correcting the record on the Alpha hero. <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/1/13/7-warlord-wants-forever-amp-untouchable" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">In the IAD novella episode</a>, we talked about the changes in <em>Whitney, My Love</em>. <em>Whitney</em> also <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/9/17/s022-the-alpha-in-romance-novels-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">came up in the Alpha episode</a> that started the season, because it's impossible to talk about the primordial alphas without talking about the early Alpha.</li><li>More on the four books that comprise <a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/series/The-Westmoreland-Dynasty-Saga" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Westmoreland series</a>.</li><li>Who do we talk to get <em>A Kingdom of Dreams</em> on audio? <a href="https://www.audible.com/ep/business-inquiries?pf_rd_p=93623a20-4420-43f1-9509-872bcf46b3b2&amp;pf_rd_r=EETZAXEEZQ73VW2B3EK2&amp;ref=a_home-page_b1_desktop_footer_column_3_2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Oh, you can email a request to Audible.</a></li><li>Jen learned about <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1497" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">1497</a> on Wikipedia. As one does.</li><li><a href="http://www.cracroftspeerage.co.uk/index20.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Women could inherit a title in Scotland</a>.</li><li>Margaret Tudor was Henry VII's eldest daughter, married to James IV of Scotland to bring peace to the border. Fun fact, once James IV died (thanks for nothing, Henry VIII, you were the worst), Margaret acted as Regent until James V of Scotland, but when that didn't work out, she married two other dudes and also staged a coup, so we don't really know why we don't all sing her praise always. Yeah, we do. Patriarchy. Anyway. Sarah didn't learn about Margaret Tudor on Wikipedia, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Tudor" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">but you can</a>.</li><li><a href="https://adamselindisdress.blog/2014/04/28/12th-century-dress-the-bliaut/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">All about the bliaut</a>. Sarah would like you to know she <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bliaut" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">looked up bliauts</a> on Wikipedia after we recorded and now she's an expert. High-fives to all Wikipedia editors. Nothing without you.</li><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/5/18/135-freewheeling-with-sarah-and-jen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tinctures, tonics, and teas</a> is Fated Mates shorthand for historicals where medicine women knew various herbal remedies for preventing or ending pregnancy. Or in this case, causing life-long impotence.</li><li>We talked a little bit about the freedom of setting a romance in Medieval times on our <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bliaut" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scottish Romance episode</a>, so head over and listen to that if you're interested.</li><li>Jen's obsessed with the idea of the Vietnam Hero, but doesn't know where to start. Probably with finishing the <a href="http://www.pbs.org/kenburns/the-vietnam-war/home/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ken Burns Vietnam documentary</a>.</li><li><a href="https://sudeleycastle.co.uk/news/9-things-you-didnt-know-about-jousting" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jousting</a>. <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/11/magazine/11Jousting-t.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">WTF</a>.</li><li>What would <a href="https://www.theringer.com/year-in-review/2019/12/13/21013189/jurgen-klopp-liverpool-premier-league-leaders" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jurgen Klopp</a> say?</li><li>While we're talking about Judith McNaught and Wikipedia, do not sleep on her page. Divorce celebrations, Coors Brewing Company tie-ins, the invention of the non-clinch romance cover, moving to Dallas after going there on book tour...<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_McNaught" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">it has it all</a>.</li><li>Support <a href="https://blacklivesmatter.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Lives Matter</a> and <a href="https://www.communityjusticeexchange.org/nbfn-directory" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bail funds</a> in your city or state.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/Bookshop_Org/status/1267846208237776904?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shop and support Black-owned Indie bookstores</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.vote.org/register-to-vote/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Register to vote</a>. Already registered? <a href="https://www.vote.org/am-i-registered-to-vote/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Double check</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/6/9/s0240-a-kingdom-of-dreams </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s the last read-along of Season Two! We’re reading Judith McNaught’s A Kingdom of Dreams, which is the actual book that blooded Sarah when she was wee. This week we’re talking old-school romance, what McNaught was doing with this book and this hero who is so unlike all the heroes who came before him, and why (book) Jennifer is the perfect namesake for (our) Jennifer.</p><p>We might not be doing read alongs until August, but that doesn’t mean your TBR won’t still be groaning under the weight of our recommendations — we’ve got a bunch of rec episodes lined up for summer….oh, and did you know Sarah has a book out in three weeks? Order it from <a href="https://amzn.to/36enOHt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeKobo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeBN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://apple.co/394AXnZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="http://bit.ly/DukeBAM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Books-a-Million</a> or from <a href="https://bit.ly/3foEa5a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>, or order it signed from her local indie, <a href="http://wordbookstores.com/sarahmaclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">WORD Bookstore</a>, and get a special edition Fated Mates sticker with your purchase!</p><p>As summer approaches, if you are up for leaving a rating or review for the podcast on your podcasting app, we would be very grateful!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marty_McFly" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Marty McFly</a>, played by Michael J. Fox, was the main character in an excellent 1985 time-traveling movie called <a href="https://www.backtothefuture.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Back to the Future</a>.</li><li>Sarah's next book, <em>Daring and the Duke</em>, comes out at the end of the month. <a href="https://www.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Preorder from WORD</a> in Brooklyn and you'll recieve <a href="https://twitter.com/FatedMates/status/1263064000310448128?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a limited edition yellow Fated Mates sticker</a>.</li><li><em>Whitney, My Love</em> is an early McNaught historical romance that the author changed because in the original text, the hero rapes and horsewhips the heroine. The hero of <em>A Kingdom of Dreams</em>, Royce Westmoreland, is one of Clayton's ancestors, but we think he is McNaught correcting the record on the Alpha hero. <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/1/13/7-warlord-wants-forever-amp-untouchable" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">In the IAD novella episode</a>, we talked about the changes in <em>Whitney, My Love</em>. <em>Whitney</em> also <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/9/17/s022-the-alpha-in-romance-novels-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">came up in the Alpha episode</a> that started the season, because it's impossible to talk about the primordial alphas without talking about the early Alpha.</li><li>More on the four books that comprise <a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/series/The-Westmoreland-Dynasty-Saga" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Westmoreland series</a>.</li><li>Who do we talk to get <em>A Kingdom of Dreams</em> on audio? <a href="https://www.audible.com/ep/business-inquiries?pf_rd_p=93623a20-4420-43f1-9509-872bcf46b3b2&amp;pf_rd_r=EETZAXEEZQ73VW2B3EK2&amp;ref=a_home-page_b1_desktop_footer_column_3_2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Oh, you can email a request to Audible.</a></li><li>Jen learned about <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1497" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">1497</a> on Wikipedia. As one does.</li><li><a href="http://www.cracroftspeerage.co.uk/index20.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Women could inherit a title in Scotland</a>.</li><li>Margaret Tudor was Henry VII's eldest daughter, married to James IV of Scotland to bring peace to the border. Fun fact, once James IV died (thanks for nothing, Henry VIII, you were the worst), Margaret acted as Regent until James V of Scotland, but when that didn't work out, she married two other dudes and also staged a coup, so we don't really know why we don't all sing her praise always. Yeah, we do. Patriarchy. Anyway. Sarah didn't learn about Margaret Tudor on Wikipedia, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Tudor" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">but you can</a>.</li><li><a href="https://adamselindisdress.blog/2014/04/28/12th-century-dress-the-bliaut/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">All about the bliaut</a>. Sarah would like you to know she <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bliaut" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">looked up bliauts</a> on Wikipedia after we recorded and now she's an expert. High-fives to all Wikipedia editors. Nothing without you.</li><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/5/18/135-freewheeling-with-sarah-and-jen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tinctures, tonics, and teas</a> is Fated Mates shorthand for historicals where medicine women knew various herbal remedies for preventing or ending pregnancy. Or in this case, causing life-long impotence.</li><li>We talked a little bit about the freedom of setting a romance in Medieval times on our <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bliaut" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scottish Romance episode</a>, so head over and listen to that if you're interested.</li><li>Jen's obsessed with the idea of the Vietnam Hero, but doesn't know where to start. Probably with finishing the <a href="http://www.pbs.org/kenburns/the-vietnam-war/home/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ken Burns Vietnam documentary</a>.</li><li><a href="https://sudeleycastle.co.uk/news/9-things-you-didnt-know-about-jousting" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jousting</a>. <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/11/magazine/11Jousting-t.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">WTF</a>.</li><li>What would <a href="https://www.theringer.com/year-in-review/2019/12/13/21013189/jurgen-klopp-liverpool-premier-league-leaders" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jurgen Klopp</a> say?</li><li>While we're talking about Judith McNaught and Wikipedia, do not sleep on her page. Divorce celebrations, Coors Brewing Company tie-ins, the invention of the non-clinch romance cover, moving to Dallas after going there on book tour...<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_McNaught" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">it has it all</a>.</li><li>Support <a href="https://blacklivesmatter.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Lives Matter</a> and <a href="https://www.communityjusticeexchange.org/nbfn-directory" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bail funds</a> in your city or state.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/Bookshop_Org/status/1267846208237776904?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shop and support Black-owned Indie bookstores</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.vote.org/register-to-vote/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Register to vote</a>. Already registered? <a href="https://www.vote.org/am-i-registered-to-vote/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Double check</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/6/9/s0240-a-kingdom-of-dreams </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/6/9/s0240-a-kingdom-of-dreams]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5edff515984cb602a4c55094</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2020 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/fa082a64-f98d-4b34-b2a4-100a4afc48e3/fated-mates-kingdom-of-dreams-final-mastered.mp3" length="91591265" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:30:34</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>40</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>40</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:summary>One of readers’ very favorite tropes this week…sometimes it’s friends-to-lovers and sometimes it’s friends-to-enemies-to-lovers and sometimes it’s friends-to-attempted-murder-to-lovers….we’re talking childhood friends to adult lovers and we will get to the bottom of it! Get ready for way too much music from The Saint. But first things first….Black Lives Matter.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-fa082a64-f98d-4b34-b2a4-100a4afc48e3.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S02.39: Childhood Friends to Adult Lovers</title><itunes:title>Childhood Friends to Adult Lovers</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>One of readers’ very favorite tropes this week…sometimes it’s friends-to-lovers and sometimes it’s friends-to-enemies-to-lovers and sometimes it’s friends-to-attempted-murder-to-lovers….we’re talking childhood friends to adult lovers and we will get to the bottom of it! Get ready for way too much music from The Saint. But first things first….Black Lives Matter.</p><p>Next week, we’re officially OFFICIALLY reading Judith McNaught’s <em>A Kingdom of Dreams</em>! Get ready for Sarah’s favorite historical of all time. It’s HAPPENING. Find A Kingdom of Dreams at <a href="https://amzn.to/3d6bdcN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/kingdom-of-dreams-judith-mcnaught/1001923052" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/a-kingdom-of-dreams/id1158893812?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/a-kingdom-of-dreams-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> … and don’t forget <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780671737610" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your favorite indie</a>, which is probably shipping books right now and definitely needs your patronage!</p><p>Also, if you love the music in this or any of our episodes, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6QWZy7vo4Dw9eS733PJj1U?si=W1voWFsHS5uPHHkw0WCHMw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">check out our Spotify playlist</a>, which includes it all!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Looking to donate? <a href="https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/george-floyd-protests-bail-funds-police-brutality-black-lives-matter-1008259/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Here's why supporting community bail funds is so important. </a><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/01/style/minnesota-freedom-fund-bail-george-floyd-protests.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Minnesota Freedom Fund has raised millions</a> of dollars for protestors who have been arrested, and here is an exhaustive list of <a href="https://twitter.com/starlinaxoxo/status/1267206764920860672?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">other collectives and organizaions</a> spearheaded by Black activists.</li><li>Sarah donated to <a href="https://brooklynbailfund.org/donation-form" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Brooklyn Bail Fund</a> and Jen to the <a href="https://chicagobond.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chicago Community Bail Fund</a>. Find one in your city or state through <a href="https://twitter.com/bailfundnetwork" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the National Bail Fund Network</a>.</li><li>Bookshop.Org has a <a href="https://twitter.com/Bookshop_Org/status/1267846208237776904?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">special link </a>if you want to shop and support Black-owned Indie bookstores.</li><li><a href="https://www.vote.org/register-to-vote/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Register to vote</a>. And <a href="https://www.vote.org/am-i-registered-to-vote/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">make sure you're still registered</a>. You can also donate to Stacy Abrams's nonprofit, <a href="https://fairfight.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fair Fight</a>, which is dedicated to ensure voting access for all Americans..</li><li>Jen's friend Susan is putting together a service to help parents keep kids busy this summer, it's called <a href="https://mycampbox.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">My Camp Box.</a></li><li>Maybe you'd like to find some more <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show/unrequited-love-to-requited" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">unrequited love romances</a>? And, by the way, <a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/requite" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Requited</a> is an actual word.</li><li><a href="https://www.buzzfeed.com/kellymartinez/its-time-to-admit-how-ridiculous-that-jacob-and-renesmee" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jacob imprinting on a baby</a> in the <em>Twilight</em> series was...a thing. But in the MG (middle grade) graphic novel <em>Fake Blood</em>, <a href="https://d28hgpri8am2if.cloudfront.net/book_images/onix/interior_spreads/9781481495561/fake-blood-9781481495561.in04.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a bookish boy</a> has a crush on the coolest girl in school, and she just happens to be a vampire slayer.</li><li>Friend of the Pod <a href="https://twitter.com/bandherbooks" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@Bandherbooks</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/bandherbooks/status/1261803525635538946?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">led a read along of <em>Again the Magic</em></a> a few weeks ago.</li><li>Sarah loves <a href="https://www.theringer.com/2017/4/4/16036474/val-kilmer-career-the-saint-movies-70e784e56665" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Saint</a>, a <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/06/magazine/val-kilmer.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Val Kilmer</a> classic. The author of that NYTimes profile, <a href="https://twitter.com/taffyakner" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Taffy Brodesser-Akner</a> also wrote a LitFic novel Jen loved called <em>Fleishman is in Trouble</em>.</li><li>Next time you need details about the exact details of what's happening in a movie, TV show, video game, or book for your kids, check out <a href="https://www.commonsensemedia.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Common Sense Media</a>.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulan_II" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Mulan II</em></a> is a romance. Don't @ Sarah; <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_and_the_Chipmunks_(film)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Alvin and the Chimpunks</em></a> is a not a romance. Don't @ Jen</li><li><a href="https://www.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Preorder <em>Daring and the Duke</em> from WORD in Brooklyn</a> and score a special edition <a href="https://twitter.com/FatedMates/status/1263064000310448128?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">yellow Fated Mates</a>sticker.</li><li>Next up, <a href="https://amzn.to/303Dn4A" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>A Kingdom of Dreams</em></a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/6/2/s0239-childhood-friends-to-adult-lovers-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of readers’ very favorite tropes this week…sometimes it’s friends-to-lovers and sometimes it’s friends-to-enemies-to-lovers and sometimes it’s friends-to-attempted-murder-to-lovers….we’re talking childhood friends to adult lovers and we will get to the bottom of it! Get ready for way too much music from The Saint. But first things first….Black Lives Matter.</p><p>Next week, we’re officially OFFICIALLY reading Judith McNaught’s <em>A Kingdom of Dreams</em>! Get ready for Sarah’s favorite historical of all time. It’s HAPPENING. Find A Kingdom of Dreams at <a href="https://amzn.to/3d6bdcN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/kingdom-of-dreams-judith-mcnaught/1001923052" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/a-kingdom-of-dreams/id1158893812?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/a-kingdom-of-dreams-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> … and don’t forget <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780671737610" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your favorite indie</a>, which is probably shipping books right now and definitely needs your patronage!</p><p>Also, if you love the music in this or any of our episodes, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6QWZy7vo4Dw9eS733PJj1U?si=W1voWFsHS5uPHHkw0WCHMw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">check out our Spotify playlist</a>, which includes it all!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Looking to donate? <a href="https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/george-floyd-protests-bail-funds-police-brutality-black-lives-matter-1008259/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Here's why supporting community bail funds is so important. </a><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/01/style/minnesota-freedom-fund-bail-george-floyd-protests.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Minnesota Freedom Fund has raised millions</a> of dollars for protestors who have been arrested, and here is an exhaustive list of <a href="https://twitter.com/starlinaxoxo/status/1267206764920860672?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">other collectives and organizaions</a> spearheaded by Black activists.</li><li>Sarah donated to <a href="https://brooklynbailfund.org/donation-form" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Brooklyn Bail Fund</a> and Jen to the <a href="https://chicagobond.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chicago Community Bail Fund</a>. Find one in your city or state through <a href="https://twitter.com/bailfundnetwork" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the National Bail Fund Network</a>.</li><li>Bookshop.Org has a <a href="https://twitter.com/Bookshop_Org/status/1267846208237776904?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">special link </a>if you want to shop and support Black-owned Indie bookstores.</li><li><a href="https://www.vote.org/register-to-vote/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Register to vote</a>. And <a href="https://www.vote.org/am-i-registered-to-vote/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">make sure you're still registered</a>. You can also donate to Stacy Abrams's nonprofit, <a href="https://fairfight.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fair Fight</a>, which is dedicated to ensure voting access for all Americans..</li><li>Jen's friend Susan is putting together a service to help parents keep kids busy this summer, it's called <a href="https://mycampbox.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">My Camp Box.</a></li><li>Maybe you'd like to find some more <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show/unrequited-love-to-requited" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">unrequited love romances</a>? And, by the way, <a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/requite" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Requited</a> is an actual word.</li><li><a href="https://www.buzzfeed.com/kellymartinez/its-time-to-admit-how-ridiculous-that-jacob-and-renesmee" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jacob imprinting on a baby</a> in the <em>Twilight</em> series was...a thing. But in the MG (middle grade) graphic novel <em>Fake Blood</em>, <a href="https://d28hgpri8am2if.cloudfront.net/book_images/onix/interior_spreads/9781481495561/fake-blood-9781481495561.in04.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a bookish boy</a> has a crush on the coolest girl in school, and she just happens to be a vampire slayer.</li><li>Friend of the Pod <a href="https://twitter.com/bandherbooks" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@Bandherbooks</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/bandherbooks/status/1261803525635538946?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">led a read along of <em>Again the Magic</em></a> a few weeks ago.</li><li>Sarah loves <a href="https://www.theringer.com/2017/4/4/16036474/val-kilmer-career-the-saint-movies-70e784e56665" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Saint</a>, a <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/06/magazine/val-kilmer.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Val Kilmer</a> classic. The author of that NYTimes profile, <a href="https://twitter.com/taffyakner" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Taffy Brodesser-Akner</a> also wrote a LitFic novel Jen loved called <em>Fleishman is in Trouble</em>.</li><li>Next time you need details about the exact details of what's happening in a movie, TV show, video game, or book for your kids, check out <a href="https://www.commonsensemedia.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Common Sense Media</a>.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulan_II" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Mulan II</em></a> is a romance. Don't @ Sarah; <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_and_the_Chipmunks_(film)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Alvin and the Chimpunks</em></a> is a not a romance. Don't @ Jen</li><li><a href="https://www.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Preorder <em>Daring and the Duke</em> from WORD in Brooklyn</a> and score a special edition <a href="https://twitter.com/FatedMates/status/1263064000310448128?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">yellow Fated Mates</a>sticker.</li><li>Next up, <a href="https://amzn.to/303Dn4A" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>A Kingdom of Dreams</em></a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/6/2/s0239-childhood-friends-to-adult-lovers-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/6/2/s0239-childhood-friends-to-adult-lovers-interstitial]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5ed6c6bcc8625a07fb383826</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2020 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/bc54e55e-a06b-4a64-ae68-d3fb50b55823/childhoodfriendstolovers-final-master.mp3" length="67581047" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:07:03</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>39</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>39</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:summary>One of readers’ very favorite tropes this week…sometimes it’s friends-to-lovers and sometimes it’s friends-to-enemies-to-lovers and sometimes it’s friends-to-attempted-murder-to-lovers….we’re talking childhood friends to adult lovers and we will get to the bottom of it! Get ready for way too much music from The Saint. But first things first….Black Lives Matter.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-bc54e55e-a06b-4a64-ae68-d3fb50b55823.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S02.38: Three Little Mistakes by Nikki Sloane: I Think About Kool Aid A Lot</title><itunes:title>Three Little Mistakes by Nikki Sloane: I Think About Kool Aid A Lot</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We’re talking about one of the best writers in erotic romance this week—Join us for a deep dive into Nikki Sloane’s Three Little Mistakes, which is one of Sarah’s favorite romances. We’re talking about kink, kink shaming, how to make sex discussions less awkward with new partners and how erotic romance is doing some of the best work in the genre right now…and we’re also going to talk about fruity drinks.</p><p>In two weeks, we’re officially OFFICIALLY reading Judith McNaught’s <em>A Kingdom of Dreams</em>! Get ready for Sarah’s favorite historical of all time. It’s HAPPENING. Find A Kingdom of Dreams at <a href="https://amzn.to/3d6bdcN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/kingdom-of-dreams-judith-mcnaught/1001923052" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/a-kingdom-of-dreams/id1158893812?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/a-kingdom-of-dreams-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> … and don’t forget <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780671737610" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your favorite indie</a>, which is probably shipping books right now and definitely needs your patronage!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Here's Jen Porter on Twitter <a href="https://twitter.com/JenniferRNN/status/1191118631205244928" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">talking about erotic romance</a>. But just this week, Robin Bradford (winner of the RWA Librarian of the year!) was also talking about <a href="https://twitter.com/Tuphlos/status/1265351693786419200" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">why it's a problem that we don't have a clear definition for erotic romance</a>.</li><li>Getting RWA to recoginize erotic romance was such a struggle that <a href="https://www.change.org/p/romance-writers-of-america-rita-committee-create-a-rita-category-for-erotic-romance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">there was actually a petition</a>! But now we can (hopefully) all move on to bigger and better things with <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/romance-writers-association-announces-new-award-the-vivian/2020/05/21/26661660-9bbb-11ea-ad79-eef7cd734641_story.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Vivian</a>.</li><li>YA books with queer characters are <a href="https://ncac.org/resource/lgbtq-book-bans-and-challenges" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">some of the most challenged books in America</a>.</li><li>Sarah also mentioned <a href="https://amzn.to/3d700Zk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sordid</a>, which has non-consensual sex and therefore needs a content warning.</li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqy8zAdfNEU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ron Charles is cool</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.nikkisloane.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nikki Sloane</a> used to live in Chicago and now lives in Kentucky. Looks like Jen's friendship plans have just been foiled.</li><li>Having sex in a porche sounds excruciating, and so does having <a href="https://flatsixes.com/porsche-culture/humor/man-caught-having-sex-with-a-porsche/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sex with a porche</a> (<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanophilia" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">WTF!</a>), but Men's Health Magazine to the rescue with this handy (lol) <a href="https://www.menshealth.com/trending-news/a19544515/best-cars-for-sex/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">list of best cars to have sex in</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.healthline.com/health/healthy-sex/erotic-asphyxiation" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">If you're interested in breath play, please do it safely</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.gq.com/story/rip-tumblr-porn-we-hardly-knew-ye" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">RIP Tumblr.</a> <a href="https://www.elle.com/life-love/sex-relationships/a25411577/tumblr-porn-ban/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">We miss you.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.hrw.org/news/2019/08/07/why-sex-work-should-be-decriminalized" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Decriminalize sex work.</a></li><li>Maybe when we can go places again, <a href="https://trip101.com/article/airbnb-yurts-in-hawaii" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">you might want to ren</a>t or <a href="https://www.yurtsofhawaii.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">buy a yurt in Hawaii.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.everydayhealth.com/hs/dental-health/which-drinks-can-harm-your-teeth/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Avoid those sugary drinks</a> for yourself and your kids. If you are in Chicago and looking for a dentist, Jen LOVES her dentist Dr. Deaver and Dr. Casimir at <a href="https://www.yourclassicsmiles.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Classic Smiles on South Wabash</a>. And she really buried the lede and forgot to mention that Dr. Deaver is not only an amazing dentist, but <a href="https://www.yourclassicsmiles.com/staff.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">he was President Obama's dentist</a>!</li><li>Next time: <a href="https://amzn.to/2ZGT5Cm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Kingdom of Dreams.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Preorder Daring and the Duke from WORD in Brooklyn</a> and you'll get a sweet <a href="https://twitter.com/FatedMates/status/1260588658312335361" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">limited edition yellow Fated Mates sticker</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/5/26/s0238-three-little-mistakes-by-nikki-sloane </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We’re talking about one of the best writers in erotic romance this week—Join us for a deep dive into Nikki Sloane’s Three Little Mistakes, which is one of Sarah’s favorite romances. We’re talking about kink, kink shaming, how to make sex discussions less awkward with new partners and how erotic romance is doing some of the best work in the genre right now…and we’re also going to talk about fruity drinks.</p><p>In two weeks, we’re officially OFFICIALLY reading Judith McNaught’s <em>A Kingdom of Dreams</em>! Get ready for Sarah’s favorite historical of all time. It’s HAPPENING. Find A Kingdom of Dreams at <a href="https://amzn.to/3d6bdcN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/kingdom-of-dreams-judith-mcnaught/1001923052" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/a-kingdom-of-dreams/id1158893812?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/a-kingdom-of-dreams-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> … and don’t forget <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780671737610" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your favorite indie</a>, which is probably shipping books right now and definitely needs your patronage!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Here's Jen Porter on Twitter <a href="https://twitter.com/JenniferRNN/status/1191118631205244928" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">talking about erotic romance</a>. But just this week, Robin Bradford (winner of the RWA Librarian of the year!) was also talking about <a href="https://twitter.com/Tuphlos/status/1265351693786419200" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">why it's a problem that we don't have a clear definition for erotic romance</a>.</li><li>Getting RWA to recoginize erotic romance was such a struggle that <a href="https://www.change.org/p/romance-writers-of-america-rita-committee-create-a-rita-category-for-erotic-romance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">there was actually a petition</a>! But now we can (hopefully) all move on to bigger and better things with <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/romance-writers-association-announces-new-award-the-vivian/2020/05/21/26661660-9bbb-11ea-ad79-eef7cd734641_story.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Vivian</a>.</li><li>YA books with queer characters are <a href="https://ncac.org/resource/lgbtq-book-bans-and-challenges" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">some of the most challenged books in America</a>.</li><li>Sarah also mentioned <a href="https://amzn.to/3d700Zk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sordid</a>, which has non-consensual sex and therefore needs a content warning.</li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqy8zAdfNEU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ron Charles is cool</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.nikkisloane.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nikki Sloane</a> used to live in Chicago and now lives in Kentucky. Looks like Jen's friendship plans have just been foiled.</li><li>Having sex in a porche sounds excruciating, and so does having <a href="https://flatsixes.com/porsche-culture/humor/man-caught-having-sex-with-a-porsche/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sex with a porche</a> (<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanophilia" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">WTF!</a>), but Men's Health Magazine to the rescue with this handy (lol) <a href="https://www.menshealth.com/trending-news/a19544515/best-cars-for-sex/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">list of best cars to have sex in</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.healthline.com/health/healthy-sex/erotic-asphyxiation" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">If you're interested in breath play, please do it safely</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.gq.com/story/rip-tumblr-porn-we-hardly-knew-ye" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">RIP Tumblr.</a> <a href="https://www.elle.com/life-love/sex-relationships/a25411577/tumblr-porn-ban/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">We miss you.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.hrw.org/news/2019/08/07/why-sex-work-should-be-decriminalized" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Decriminalize sex work.</a></li><li>Maybe when we can go places again, <a href="https://trip101.com/article/airbnb-yurts-in-hawaii" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">you might want to ren</a>t or <a href="https://www.yurtsofhawaii.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">buy a yurt in Hawaii.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.everydayhealth.com/hs/dental-health/which-drinks-can-harm-your-teeth/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Avoid those sugary drinks</a> for yourself and your kids. If you are in Chicago and looking for a dentist, Jen LOVES her dentist Dr. Deaver and Dr. Casimir at <a href="https://www.yourclassicsmiles.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Classic Smiles on South Wabash</a>. And she really buried the lede and forgot to mention that Dr. Deaver is not only an amazing dentist, but <a href="https://www.yourclassicsmiles.com/staff.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">he was President Obama's dentist</a>!</li><li>Next time: <a href="https://amzn.to/2ZGT5Cm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Kingdom of Dreams.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Preorder Daring and the Duke from WORD in Brooklyn</a> and you'll get a sweet <a href="https://twitter.com/FatedMates/status/1260588658312335361" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">limited edition yellow Fated Mates sticker</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/5/26/s0238-three-little-mistakes-by-nikki-sloane </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/5/26/s0238-three-little-mistakes-by-nikki-sloane]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5ecd5dc15e861630ff2cb096</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2020 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/5f5bdb90-38eb-4278-a4fd-6226a746ad0b/fated-mates-three-little-mistakes-final-master.mp3" length="74145284" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:13:21</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>38</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>38</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We’re talking about one of the best writers in erotic romance this week—Join us for a deep dive into Nikki Sloane’s Three Little Mistakes, which is one of Sarah’s favorite romances. We’re talking about kink, kink shaming, how to make sex discussions less awkward with new partners and how erotic romance is doing some of the best work in the genre right now…and we’re also going to talk about fruity drinks.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-5f5bdb90-38eb-4278-a4fd-6226a746ad0b.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S02.37: Partner in Danger</title><itunes:title>Partner in Danger</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It’s one of our favorite tropes this week — get your pens out, because we’re talking about about a thousand books that tackle Partner in Danger! You know what we’re talking about: “Oh no! This person I sometimes bone is in danger! WAIT! I am feeling feelings!!!” It’s great. We’re going to talk about why. Sarah would like to apologize in advance, because it was really hot in her house when we recorded, and it scrambled her brain.</p><p>We love having you with us! — subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform and like/review the podcast, please!</p><p>Next week, it’s erotica week! We’re reading a book that Sarah loves, Nikki Sloane’s Three Little Mistakes, which we’ve talked about before on the podcast, but we want to deep dive on. Get Three Little Mistakes from <a href="https://amzn.to/3bsT8UD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/three-little-mistakes-nikki-sloane/1122276027?ean=2940157908201" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/three-little-mistakes/id1070625815?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/three-little-mistakes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> … and don’t forget <a href="https://bookshop.org/books/three-little-mistakes-9780998315126/9780998315126" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your favorite indie</a>, which is probably shipping books right now and definitely needs your patronage!</p><p>Also, if you love the music in this or any of our episodes, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6QWZy7vo4Dw9eS733PJj1U?si=W1voWFsHS5uPHHkw0WCHMw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">check out our Spotify playlist</a>, which includes it all!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>As of last week, <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/15/us/coronavirus-what-to-do-outside.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">going outside</a> looks like a pretty safe thing to do.</li><li>In fact, there is <a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/26/ac-units-central-air-summer-window-new-york-america.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">less central A/C in New York City</a>. So watch out for the window units.</li><li><a href="https://theconversation.com/zoom-fatigue-how-to-make-video-calls-less-tiring-137861" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Zoom fatigue</a> is real.</li><li>You know, there is quite a large assortment of <a href="https://www.etsy.com/market/dorothy_in_the_streets_blanche_in_the_sheets" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"Dorothy in the Sheets, Blanche in the Sheets" merch on Etsy.</a> In case you need to talk a call from your editor.</li><li>We all struggle with the <a href="https://psychcentral.com/blog/the-illusion-of-control/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">illusion of control</a>.</li><li>The trope of the <a href="https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/main/damselindistress?from=main.distresseddamsel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">damsel in distress</a> <a href="https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/rethinking-the-origins-of-the-damsel-on-the-railroad-tracks" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">has been around for a long, long time.</a> So <a href="https://www.standoutbooks.com/fridging/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">let's not fridge more women</a>, mm'kay.</li><li>Friend of the pod Adriana Herrera has some words of wisdom about writing <a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/2018/09/domestic-violence-in-romance/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">trauma in romance</a>. And also Jen and Adriana did a Facebook Live chat on the topic. (link &amp; audio forthcoming).</li><li>Pour one out for <a href="https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/05/15/848706362/coronavirus-faqs-how-risky-is-it-to-fly-is-there-any-way-to-reduce-the-risks" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">planes</a>. And <a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2020/04/14/coronavirus-can-i-drive-right-now-leave-the-state/5132094002/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">cars</a>. And alcohol from mysterious European lands.</li><li>In case you missed Blood Blow Jobs: please refer to Fated Mates Season One, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/4/8/11-lothaire" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lothaire</a> and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/27/16-sweet-ruin" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rune</a>.</li><li>Jen looked it up a map. In Reborn Yesterday, the heroine is dropped onto the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belt_Parkway" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Belt Parkway</a>, not the Long Island Expressway. Still <a href="https://youtu.be/NY6CBVQPnXU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">seems bad</a>.</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/bpcwhWgWfCc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Edward saved Bella from a careening van</a> in the school parking lot. And from <a href="https://youtu.be/FY2kKLvUL2c" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a bunch of drunk guys</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.sparknotes.com/short-stories/the-most-dangerous-game/summary/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Most Dangerous Game</a> is a pretty great short story, classically used to teach <a href="http://www.literarydevices.com/conflict/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">person v. person conflict</a>.</li><li><a href="https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MoralityChain" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Morality Chain</a> is a great trope. Look for an upcoming interstitial on this topic soon!</li><li>In Pretty Woman, <a href="https://youtu.be/Z58g-u0YrMU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">she rescues him right back</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Preorder signed copies of Daring and the Duke</a> from WORD bookstore in Brooklyn and you'll get swag from Sarah and this special <a href="https://twitter.com/FatedMates/status/1260588658312335361" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">yellow Fated Mates sticker</a>.</li></ul><br/><h2>Books referenced this week:</h2><ul><li>Judith McNaught's&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780671795535" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Perfect</a></li><li>Lisa Kleypas's&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780060562496" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">It Happened One Autumn</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780060562519" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Devil in Winter</a>&nbsp;&amp;&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780380773527" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dreaming of You</a></li><li>Joanna Shupe's&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780062906830" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Prince of Broadway</a>&nbsp;&amp;&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780062906854" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Devil of Downtown</a></li><li>Kresley Cole's&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9781451683301" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lothaire</a></li><li>Milla Vane's&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780425255070" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Heart of Blood And Ashes</a></li><li>Tessa Bailey's&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9781087857527" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Reborn Yesterday</a></li><li>Emmy Chandler's Hunter</li><li>Claire Kent's Hold</li><li>Stephenie Meyer's&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780316015844" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twilight</a></li><li>Molly O'Keefe's&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9781101884485" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Everything I Left Unsaid</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9781101884508" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Truth About Him</a>, Burn Down the Night &amp; Wait for It</li><li>Sarah's&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780062692061" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wicked &amp; the Wallflower</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780062692078" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brazen &amp; the Beast</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780062692085" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Daring &amp; the Duke</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780062379412" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Rogue Not Taken</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780062068545" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">No Good Duke Goes Unpunished</a></li><li>Sierra Simone's&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9781732172203" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">American Queen</a></li><li>Kati Wilde's&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9798633544282" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hellfire Riders</a></li><li>HelenKay Dimon's&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780062892799" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Secret She Keeps</a></li><li>Robert Munsch's&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9781773213439" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Paper Bag Princess</a></li><li>Nana Malone's&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9781090555953" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Protecting the Heiress</a></li><li>Kresley Cole's&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9781476797281" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Master</a></li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/5/19/s0237-partner-in-danger-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s one of our favorite tropes this week — get your pens out, because we’re talking about about a thousand books that tackle Partner in Danger! You know what we’re talking about: “Oh no! This person I sometimes bone is in danger! WAIT! I am feeling feelings!!!” It’s great. We’re going to talk about why. Sarah would like to apologize in advance, because it was really hot in her house when we recorded, and it scrambled her brain.</p><p>We love having you with us! — subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform and like/review the podcast, please!</p><p>Next week, it’s erotica week! We’re reading a book that Sarah loves, Nikki Sloane’s Three Little Mistakes, which we’ve talked about before on the podcast, but we want to deep dive on. Get Three Little Mistakes from <a href="https://amzn.to/3bsT8UD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/three-little-mistakes-nikki-sloane/1122276027?ean=2940157908201" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/three-little-mistakes/id1070625815?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/three-little-mistakes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> … and don’t forget <a href="https://bookshop.org/books/three-little-mistakes-9780998315126/9780998315126" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your favorite indie</a>, which is probably shipping books right now and definitely needs your patronage!</p><p>Also, if you love the music in this or any of our episodes, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6QWZy7vo4Dw9eS733PJj1U?si=W1voWFsHS5uPHHkw0WCHMw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">check out our Spotify playlist</a>, which includes it all!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>As of last week, <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/15/us/coronavirus-what-to-do-outside.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">going outside</a> looks like a pretty safe thing to do.</li><li>In fact, there is <a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/26/ac-units-central-air-summer-window-new-york-america.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">less central A/C in New York City</a>. So watch out for the window units.</li><li><a href="https://theconversation.com/zoom-fatigue-how-to-make-video-calls-less-tiring-137861" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Zoom fatigue</a> is real.</li><li>You know, there is quite a large assortment of <a href="https://www.etsy.com/market/dorothy_in_the_streets_blanche_in_the_sheets" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"Dorothy in the Sheets, Blanche in the Sheets" merch on Etsy.</a> In case you need to talk a call from your editor.</li><li>We all struggle with the <a href="https://psychcentral.com/blog/the-illusion-of-control/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">illusion of control</a>.</li><li>The trope of the <a href="https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/main/damselindistress?from=main.distresseddamsel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">damsel in distress</a> <a href="https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/rethinking-the-origins-of-the-damsel-on-the-railroad-tracks" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">has been around for a long, long time.</a> So <a href="https://www.standoutbooks.com/fridging/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">let's not fridge more women</a>, mm'kay.</li><li>Friend of the pod Adriana Herrera has some words of wisdom about writing <a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/2018/09/domestic-violence-in-romance/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">trauma in romance</a>. And also Jen and Adriana did a Facebook Live chat on the topic. (link &amp; audio forthcoming).</li><li>Pour one out for <a href="https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/05/15/848706362/coronavirus-faqs-how-risky-is-it-to-fly-is-there-any-way-to-reduce-the-risks" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">planes</a>. And <a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2020/04/14/coronavirus-can-i-drive-right-now-leave-the-state/5132094002/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">cars</a>. And alcohol from mysterious European lands.</li><li>In case you missed Blood Blow Jobs: please refer to Fated Mates Season One, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/4/8/11-lothaire" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lothaire</a> and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/27/16-sweet-ruin" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rune</a>.</li><li>Jen looked it up a map. In Reborn Yesterday, the heroine is dropped onto the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belt_Parkway" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Belt Parkway</a>, not the Long Island Expressway. Still <a href="https://youtu.be/NY6CBVQPnXU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">seems bad</a>.</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/bpcwhWgWfCc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Edward saved Bella from a careening van</a> in the school parking lot. And from <a href="https://youtu.be/FY2kKLvUL2c" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a bunch of drunk guys</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.sparknotes.com/short-stories/the-most-dangerous-game/summary/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Most Dangerous Game</a> is a pretty great short story, classically used to teach <a href="http://www.literarydevices.com/conflict/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">person v. person conflict</a>.</li><li><a href="https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MoralityChain" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Morality Chain</a> is a great trope. Look for an upcoming interstitial on this topic soon!</li><li>In Pretty Woman, <a href="https://youtu.be/Z58g-u0YrMU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">she rescues him right back</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Preorder signed copies of Daring and the Duke</a> from WORD bookstore in Brooklyn and you'll get swag from Sarah and this special <a href="https://twitter.com/FatedMates/status/1260588658312335361" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">yellow Fated Mates sticker</a>.</li></ul><br/><h2>Books referenced this week:</h2><ul><li>Judith McNaught's&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780671795535" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Perfect</a></li><li>Lisa Kleypas's&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780060562496" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">It Happened One Autumn</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780060562519" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Devil in Winter</a>&nbsp;&amp;&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780380773527" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dreaming of You</a></li><li>Joanna Shupe's&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780062906830" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Prince of Broadway</a>&nbsp;&amp;&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780062906854" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Devil of Downtown</a></li><li>Kresley Cole's&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9781451683301" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lothaire</a></li><li>Milla Vane's&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780425255070" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Heart of Blood And Ashes</a></li><li>Tessa Bailey's&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9781087857527" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Reborn Yesterday</a></li><li>Emmy Chandler's Hunter</li><li>Claire Kent's Hold</li><li>Stephenie Meyer's&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780316015844" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twilight</a></li><li>Molly O'Keefe's&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9781101884485" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Everything I Left Unsaid</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9781101884508" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Truth About Him</a>, Burn Down the Night &amp; Wait for It</li><li>Sarah's&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780062692061" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wicked &amp; the Wallflower</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780062692078" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brazen &amp; the Beast</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780062692085" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Daring &amp; the Duke</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780062379412" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Rogue Not Taken</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780062068545" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">No Good Duke Goes Unpunished</a></li><li>Sierra Simone's&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9781732172203" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">American Queen</a></li><li>Kati Wilde's&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9798633544282" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hellfire Riders</a></li><li>HelenKay Dimon's&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9780062892799" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Secret She Keeps</a></li><li>Robert Munsch's&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9781773213439" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Paper Bag Princess</a></li><li>Nana Malone's&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9781090555953" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Protecting the Heiress</a></li><li>Kresley Cole's&nbsp;<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/5779/9781476797281" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Master</a></li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/5/19/s0237-partner-in-danger-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/5/19/s0237-partner-in-danger-interstitial]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5ec3fb798a92090e1fa320d6</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2020 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/f60e3a7b-d68f-4b4d-8cc0-7fe34816ad1b/fated-mates-partner-in-danger-final-master-reva.mp3" length="68596587" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:06:01</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>37</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>37</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:summary>It’s one of our favorite tropes this week — get your pens out, because we’re talking about about a thousand books that tackle Partner in Danger! You know what we’re talking about: “Oh no! This person I sometimes bone is in danger! WAIT! I am feeling feelings!!!” It’s great. We’re going to talk about why. Sarah would like to apologize in advance, because it was really hot in her house when we recorded, and it scrambled her brain.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-f60e3a7b-d68f-4b4d-8cc0-7fe34816ad1b.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S02.36: Bet Me by Jennifer Crusie: I wanna mash their faces together.</title><itunes:title>Bet Me by Jennifer Crusie: I wanna mash their faces together</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It’s a Jen week this week! We’re reading Bet Me this week, the book many people put right on the top of Best Contemporary Romance lists — one of Jen’s favorite books and a book Sarah liked to tell people she loved but has now discovered she’d never actually read. Minerva and Cal are absolutely terrific, as is this book, and we’re having a rollicking conversation about fat rep, about friendships in romance, about food (Sarah’s love language), about shoes, and about why grown people at little league games are a weird thing.</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>We're big fans of <a href="https://twitter.com/carlylane" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Carly Lane-Perry</a> from <a href="https://www.syfy.com/tags/fangrrls" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">SyFy Fangirls</a>. We especially like her newsletter, Kissing Books--<a href="https://kissingbooks.substack.com/p/its-our-first-installment-of-kissing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen wrote about grandmothers in romance</a>.</li><li>Is it criticism if it's all positive?</li><li><a href="https://www.thecut.com/2020/05/baby-foot-peel-sold-out.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Baby Foot is sold out</a>, but there are lots of <a href="https://www.refinery29.com/en-gb/2020/05/9803818/foot-peel-products" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">other terrifying alternatives</a> you can try.</li><li>Janet Dailey is famous for <a href="https://groundhog-apricot-gbcy.squarespace.com/episodes/2020/5/12/plagiarize" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">plagiarizing Nora Roberts</a>. Before that happened, she wrote <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Americana-50-Book/dp/B00WTJNIW2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Americana series</a>, with one book set in every state. The one set in Ohio was called <a href="https://amzn.to/360ylXl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Widow and the Wastrel</a>, and Jen's twitter thread about the book unearthed <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1260168185434845184" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">several early covers for the book</a>.</li><li>Sarah asked if Jenny Crusie is from Ohio? <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Crusie" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">She is</a>.</li><li>This was Sarah's first time reading Bet Me, just like it was Jen's first time reading <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/10/7/s025-gentle-rogue" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gentle Rogue</a>.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minerva" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Minerva</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana_(mythology)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Diana</a> probably wish they weren't named after Roman goddesses.</li><li>So: you want to be an <a href="https://www.beanactuary.org/what/do/?fa=what-do-we-do" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">actuary</a>. You want to learn about <a href="https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/chaos/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">chaos theory</a>. You're wondering about <a href="https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/n7j3nm/lovehate-reads-men-are-from-mars-women-are-from-venus-revisited" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the gender essentialsim of a book with a title like Men are from Mars; Women are from Venus.</a> You want to learn more about the band <a href="https://www.allmusic.com/artist/cake-mn0000943827/biography" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cake</a>.</li><li><a href="https://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/elvis-presley-biography14.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love Me Tender</a> is <a href="https://youtu.be/2lD711_Xh8s" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a beautiful song</a>.</li><li><a href="https://healthland.time.com/2013/02/14/its-neuromagic-how-penn-and-teller-are-helping-brain-science-and-vice-versa/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Penn and Teller</a> explain <a href="https://youtu.be/8osRaFTtgHo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Cup and Ball trick</a>. Oh, and did you hear Sarah mention it's going to appear in Daring and the Duke? <a href="https://www.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pre-order from WORD in Brooklyn</a>, and you'll recieve a free <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1260287051431370754" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">limited edition yellow Fated Mates sticker</a>.</li><li>With these many characters, it might as well be a <a href="https://www.vulture.com/article/best-robert-altman-movies-ranked.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Robert Atlman movie</a>.</li><li>Learn about <a href="https://www.readingrockets.org/article/dyslexia-and-brain-what-does-current-research-tell-us" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">dyslexia</a>, our understanind of which has dramatically <a href="https://dyslexia.yale.edu/dyslexia/what-is-dyslexia/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">changed over time</a>. Erin McCarthy's <a href="https://amzn.to/2WoXnMI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hard and Fast</a> (2009) also has a dyslexic hero.</li><li>Another utterly fantastic family dinner gone wrong scene is in <a href="https://amzn.to/3dJ4xBl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Her Naughty Holiday</a> by Tiffany Reisz.</li><li>Jeanne Lin knows how to write some <a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/post/rombklove-day-25-steamy-reads" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">really sexy kissing</a>.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairy_godmother" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The fairy godmother</a> is a hallmark of Cinderella, and Sarah's own magical modiste is Madame Hebert.</li><li>There are so many homages to great rom-coms of the 90s. Diana loves the music from Julia Roberts movies. Elvis Costello's She appeared in Notting Hill, the lead up to the big wedding was like <a href="https://youtu.be/ZYzQFudZ70k" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Four Weddings and a Funeral,</a> and of course Diana turns into a Runaway Bride. Min's visit to the magical modiste is like <a href="https://youtu.be/VxcU4q6KLyA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">one of the greatest makeover sequences in movies, Pretty Woman</a>. The "I love your shoes" was like <a href="https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/the-american-president-1995" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The American President.</a> All <a href="https://youtu.be/-n3qpOM31Pc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the wolf references</a>, of course <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/10/23/5-a-wolf-without-a-foot-intro" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">reminded us of Moonstruck</a>. Cynthie's sexy clothes at the little league game were reminiscent of <a href="https://youtu.be/pWRCxdh4PTM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this great scene in Bull Durham</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/shop" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Order buttons from Kelly</a> in Jen's shop, and <a href="https://jordandene.com/collections/romance-sarah-maclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">t-shirts from Jordan Dene</a>.</li><li>Next up, we'll be reading <a href="https://amzn.to/2WNukRS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Three Little Mistakes</a> from Nikki Sloan.</li></ul><br/><h2>Books We Mentioned This Week:</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3cwPRF6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Welcome to Temptation</a>&nbsp;by Jennifer Crusie</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3br5gW4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bet Me</a>&nbsp;by Jennifer Crusie</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3btt37Y" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Widow and the Wastrel</a>&nbsp;by Janet Dailey</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2YXkjnV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gentle Rogue</a>&nbsp;by Johanna Lindsey</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3fLCuCO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Daring and the Duke</a>&nbsp;by Sarah MacLean</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3cnJcgm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hard and Fast</a>&nbsp;by Erin McCarthy</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/5/12/s0236-bet-me-by-jennifer-crusie </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s a Jen week this week! We’re reading Bet Me this week, the book many people put right on the top of Best Contemporary Romance lists — one of Jen’s favorite books and a book Sarah liked to tell people she loved but has now discovered she’d never actually read. Minerva and Cal are absolutely terrific, as is this book, and we’re having a rollicking conversation about fat rep, about friendships in romance, about food (Sarah’s love language), about shoes, and about why grown people at little league games are a weird thing.</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>We're big fans of <a href="https://twitter.com/carlylane" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Carly Lane-Perry</a> from <a href="https://www.syfy.com/tags/fangrrls" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">SyFy Fangirls</a>. We especially like her newsletter, Kissing Books--<a href="https://kissingbooks.substack.com/p/its-our-first-installment-of-kissing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen wrote about grandmothers in romance</a>.</li><li>Is it criticism if it's all positive?</li><li><a href="https://www.thecut.com/2020/05/baby-foot-peel-sold-out.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Baby Foot is sold out</a>, but there are lots of <a href="https://www.refinery29.com/en-gb/2020/05/9803818/foot-peel-products" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">other terrifying alternatives</a> you can try.</li><li>Janet Dailey is famous for <a href="https://groundhog-apricot-gbcy.squarespace.com/episodes/2020/5/12/plagiarize" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">plagiarizing Nora Roberts</a>. Before that happened, she wrote <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Americana-50-Book/dp/B00WTJNIW2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Americana series</a>, with one book set in every state. The one set in Ohio was called <a href="https://amzn.to/360ylXl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Widow and the Wastrel</a>, and Jen's twitter thread about the book unearthed <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1260168185434845184" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">several early covers for the book</a>.</li><li>Sarah asked if Jenny Crusie is from Ohio? <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Crusie" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">She is</a>.</li><li>This was Sarah's first time reading Bet Me, just like it was Jen's first time reading <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/10/7/s025-gentle-rogue" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gentle Rogue</a>.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minerva" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Minerva</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana_(mythology)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Diana</a> probably wish they weren't named after Roman goddesses.</li><li>So: you want to be an <a href="https://www.beanactuary.org/what/do/?fa=what-do-we-do" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">actuary</a>. You want to learn about <a href="https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/chaos/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">chaos theory</a>. You're wondering about <a href="https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/n7j3nm/lovehate-reads-men-are-from-mars-women-are-from-venus-revisited" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the gender essentialsim of a book with a title like Men are from Mars; Women are from Venus.</a> You want to learn more about the band <a href="https://www.allmusic.com/artist/cake-mn0000943827/biography" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cake</a>.</li><li><a href="https://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/elvis-presley-biography14.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love Me Tender</a> is <a href="https://youtu.be/2lD711_Xh8s" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a beautiful song</a>.</li><li><a href="https://healthland.time.com/2013/02/14/its-neuromagic-how-penn-and-teller-are-helping-brain-science-and-vice-versa/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Penn and Teller</a> explain <a href="https://youtu.be/8osRaFTtgHo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Cup and Ball trick</a>. Oh, and did you hear Sarah mention it's going to appear in Daring and the Duke? <a href="https://www.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pre-order from WORD in Brooklyn</a>, and you'll recieve a free <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1260287051431370754" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">limited edition yellow Fated Mates sticker</a>.</li><li>With these many characters, it might as well be a <a href="https://www.vulture.com/article/best-robert-altman-movies-ranked.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Robert Atlman movie</a>.</li><li>Learn about <a href="https://www.readingrockets.org/article/dyslexia-and-brain-what-does-current-research-tell-us" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">dyslexia</a>, our understanind of which has dramatically <a href="https://dyslexia.yale.edu/dyslexia/what-is-dyslexia/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">changed over time</a>. Erin McCarthy's <a href="https://amzn.to/2WoXnMI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hard and Fast</a> (2009) also has a dyslexic hero.</li><li>Another utterly fantastic family dinner gone wrong scene is in <a href="https://amzn.to/3dJ4xBl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Her Naughty Holiday</a> by Tiffany Reisz.</li><li>Jeanne Lin knows how to write some <a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/post/rombklove-day-25-steamy-reads" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">really sexy kissing</a>.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairy_godmother" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The fairy godmother</a> is a hallmark of Cinderella, and Sarah's own magical modiste is Madame Hebert.</li><li>There are so many homages to great rom-coms of the 90s. Diana loves the music from Julia Roberts movies. Elvis Costello's She appeared in Notting Hill, the lead up to the big wedding was like <a href="https://youtu.be/ZYzQFudZ70k" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Four Weddings and a Funeral,</a> and of course Diana turns into a Runaway Bride. Min's visit to the magical modiste is like <a href="https://youtu.be/VxcU4q6KLyA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">one of the greatest makeover sequences in movies, Pretty Woman</a>. The "I love your shoes" was like <a href="https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/the-american-president-1995" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The American President.</a> All <a href="https://youtu.be/-n3qpOM31Pc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the wolf references</a>, of course <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/10/23/5-a-wolf-without-a-foot-intro" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">reminded us of Moonstruck</a>. Cynthie's sexy clothes at the little league game were reminiscent of <a href="https://youtu.be/pWRCxdh4PTM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this great scene in Bull Durham</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/shop" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Order buttons from Kelly</a> in Jen's shop, and <a href="https://jordandene.com/collections/romance-sarah-maclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">t-shirts from Jordan Dene</a>.</li><li>Next up, we'll be reading <a href="https://amzn.to/2WNukRS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Three Little Mistakes</a> from Nikki Sloan.</li></ul><br/><h2>Books We Mentioned This Week:</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3cwPRF6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Welcome to Temptation</a>&nbsp;by Jennifer Crusie</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3br5gW4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bet Me</a>&nbsp;by Jennifer Crusie</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3btt37Y" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Widow and the Wastrel</a>&nbsp;by Janet Dailey</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2YXkjnV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gentle Rogue</a>&nbsp;by Johanna Lindsey</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3fLCuCO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Daring and the Duke</a>&nbsp;by Sarah MacLean</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3cnJcgm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hard and Fast</a>&nbsp;by Erin McCarthy</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/5/12/s0236-bet-me-by-jennifer-crusie </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/5/12/s0236-bet-me-by-jennifer-crusie]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5ebae6dfb0a443408cae5c33</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2020 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/2f454217-a98c-40db-84f9-788c1a58d1e5/betme-final-mastered-reva.mp3" length="74841627" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:12:38</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>36</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>36</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:summary>It’s a Jen week this week! We’re reading Bet Me this week, the book many people put right on the top of Best Contemporary Romance lists — one of Jen’s favorite books and a book Sarah liked to tell people she loved but has now discovered she’d never actually read. Minerva and Cal are absolutely terrific, as is this book, and we’re having a rollicking conversation about fat rep, about friendships in romance, about food (Sarah’s love language), about shoes, and about why grown people at little league games are a weird thing.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-2f454217-a98c-40db-84f9-788c1a58d1e5.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S02.35: Freewheeling with Sophie Jordan: The &quot;Taking the Finger&quot; Explainer</title><itunes:title>Freewheeling with Sophie Jordan: The &quot;Taking the Finger&quot; Explainer Interstitial</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Sophie Jordan is back again! She’s got a new book out, <a href="https://amzn.to/2L5FLiw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Virgin and the Rogue</a>, and she’s back with us to freewheel about old school romances, aphrodisiac plotlines and just what do we mean when we say “taking the finger?” It’s a delightful hour. You won’t regret it.</p><p>We love having you with us! Subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform and like/review the podcast, please!</p><p>Next week, we’re reading a book that blooded Jen, Jenny Crusie’s <a href="https://amzn.to/2Sg5it0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Bet Me</em></a>! Which you can get bundled with <em>Welcome to Temptation </em>(get this one — it’s $2. cheaper than getting Bet Me alone!) from <a href="https://amzn.to/2Sg5it0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/welcome-to-temptation-bet-me-jennifer-crusie/1111638080" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/bet-me/id383912025?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/welcome-to-temptation-bet-me" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> … and don’t forget your favorite indie, which is probably shipping books right now and definitely needs your patronage!</p><p>Also, if you love the music in this or any of our episodes, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6QWZy7vo4Dw9eS733PJj1U?si=W1voWFsHS5uPHHkw0WCHMw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">check out our Spotify playlist</a>, which includes it all!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome <a href="https://www.sophiejordan.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sophie Jordan</a>, who was last on the pod talking about <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/17/15-the-master" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Master</a>. Come on five times and you get a <a href="https://youtu.be/-MQNNzaEt2s" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pink Ladies</a> jacket.</li><li><a href="https://www.huffpost.com/entry/introvert-tweets-march_l_5e855fc7c5b60bbd734efe5b" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">How are the Introverts faring during the pandemic</a>?</li><li><a href="https://www.chewy.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chewy.com</a> will deliver your cat litter and also massive bags of cat food.</li><li>Annika Martin's <a href="https://amzn.to/3b9vxrI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dark Mafia Prince</a> inspired Sophie and Sarah to coin the phrase "taking the finger," which Jen has co-opted with glee. Not sure what counts as worthy of "taking the finger"? <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1142410957467148289" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Simone Scale TM</a> is here for you.</li><li>Jen's <a href="https://energyeducation.ca/encyclopedia/Control_rod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"control rods"</a> metaphor is because she's <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1095342396177412102" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a big old nuclear nerd</a>.</li><li>Aphrodesiac books we know of: <a href="https://amzn.to/2L5FLiw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Virgin and the Rogue</a>; Robin's Lovett's <a href="https://amzn.to/35z6DRi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Planet of Desire</a> series takes place on a planet where the atmosphere is an aphrodesiac; in <a href="https://amzn.to/3c3kB0d" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Taste of Her Own Medicine</a> by Tasha Harrison, the grandmother whips up a "come to me" potion; Johanna Lindsey's <a href="https://amzn.to/2SVnqsT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Secret Fire</a> sounds bonkers; <a href="https://amzn.to/2xDasbH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wild Card</a> is one by Lora Leigh that <a href="https://twitter.com/JoannaShupe/status/1070345284524367873" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joanna Shupe recommends</a>. Does the shortbread in <a href="https://amzn.to/35yP9V8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">How the Dukes Stole Christmas</a> count? What else have you got?</li><li><a href="https://www.chicagotribune.com/chinews-michael-phillips-20130507-staff.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Michael Phillips of the Chicago Tribune</a> taught Jen everything she needed to know about the backbone of good criticism, everything else she's making up as she goes along.</li><li>We talked about <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/5/18/135-freewheeling-with-sarah-and-jen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bodily autonomy</a> in season one.</li><li>Sarah talked about watching the trailer for this very terrifying 60s movie <a href="https://youtu.be/Uy9XGPgrNEo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Lady in a Cage</a>.</li><li>Order <a href="https://www.katybooks.com/sophie-jordan" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sophie's signed books from Katy Budget Books</a> and <a href="https://www.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah's from WORD in Brooklyn</a> -- including pre-orders for Daring and the Duke.</li><li>Oh, you want to read <a href="https://www.sophiejordan.net/inbedwiththestablemaster.html?fbclid=IwAR0ns1EG23jqLwOPaOYY0mrVbHzLD61ybOrpB4JDBaN_OK5kXPib7r0i50M" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sophie's story about a stablemaster and a maid?</a> No <a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2018/01/who-did-it-better-on-horse.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">horses</a> were harmed, so it's fine.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/5/5/s0235-freewheeling-with-sophie-jordan-a-taking-the-finger-explainer-episode-W1FeR </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sophie Jordan is back again! She’s got a new book out, <a href="https://amzn.to/2L5FLiw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Virgin and the Rogue</a>, and she’s back with us to freewheel about old school romances, aphrodisiac plotlines and just what do we mean when we say “taking the finger?” It’s a delightful hour. You won’t regret it.</p><p>We love having you with us! Subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform and like/review the podcast, please!</p><p>Next week, we’re reading a book that blooded Jen, Jenny Crusie’s <a href="https://amzn.to/2Sg5it0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Bet Me</em></a>! Which you can get bundled with <em>Welcome to Temptation </em>(get this one — it’s $2. cheaper than getting Bet Me alone!) from <a href="https://amzn.to/2Sg5it0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/welcome-to-temptation-bet-me-jennifer-crusie/1111638080" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/bet-me/id383912025?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/welcome-to-temptation-bet-me" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> … and don’t forget your favorite indie, which is probably shipping books right now and definitely needs your patronage!</p><p>Also, if you love the music in this or any of our episodes, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6QWZy7vo4Dw9eS733PJj1U?si=W1voWFsHS5uPHHkw0WCHMw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">check out our Spotify playlist</a>, which includes it all!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome <a href="https://www.sophiejordan.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sophie Jordan</a>, who was last on the pod talking about <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/17/15-the-master" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Master</a>. Come on five times and you get a <a href="https://youtu.be/-MQNNzaEt2s" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pink Ladies</a> jacket.</li><li><a href="https://www.huffpost.com/entry/introvert-tweets-march_l_5e855fc7c5b60bbd734efe5b" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">How are the Introverts faring during the pandemic</a>?</li><li><a href="https://www.chewy.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chewy.com</a> will deliver your cat litter and also massive bags of cat food.</li><li>Annika Martin's <a href="https://amzn.to/3b9vxrI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dark Mafia Prince</a> inspired Sophie and Sarah to coin the phrase "taking the finger," which Jen has co-opted with glee. Not sure what counts as worthy of "taking the finger"? <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1142410957467148289" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Simone Scale TM</a> is here for you.</li><li>Jen's <a href="https://energyeducation.ca/encyclopedia/Control_rod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"control rods"</a> metaphor is because she's <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1095342396177412102" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a big old nuclear nerd</a>.</li><li>Aphrodesiac books we know of: <a href="https://amzn.to/2L5FLiw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Virgin and the Rogue</a>; Robin's Lovett's <a href="https://amzn.to/35z6DRi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Planet of Desire</a> series takes place on a planet where the atmosphere is an aphrodesiac; in <a href="https://amzn.to/3c3kB0d" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Taste of Her Own Medicine</a> by Tasha Harrison, the grandmother whips up a "come to me" potion; Johanna Lindsey's <a href="https://amzn.to/2SVnqsT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Secret Fire</a> sounds bonkers; <a href="https://amzn.to/2xDasbH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wild Card</a> is one by Lora Leigh that <a href="https://twitter.com/JoannaShupe/status/1070345284524367873" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joanna Shupe recommends</a>. Does the shortbread in <a href="https://amzn.to/35yP9V8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">How the Dukes Stole Christmas</a> count? What else have you got?</li><li><a href="https://www.chicagotribune.com/chinews-michael-phillips-20130507-staff.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Michael Phillips of the Chicago Tribune</a> taught Jen everything she needed to know about the backbone of good criticism, everything else she's making up as she goes along.</li><li>We talked about <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/5/18/135-freewheeling-with-sarah-and-jen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bodily autonomy</a> in season one.</li><li>Sarah talked about watching the trailer for this very terrifying 60s movie <a href="https://youtu.be/Uy9XGPgrNEo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Lady in a Cage</a>.</li><li>Order <a href="https://www.katybooks.com/sophie-jordan" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sophie's signed books from Katy Budget Books</a> and <a href="https://www.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah's from WORD in Brooklyn</a> -- including pre-orders for Daring and the Duke.</li><li>Oh, you want to read <a href="https://www.sophiejordan.net/inbedwiththestablemaster.html?fbclid=IwAR0ns1EG23jqLwOPaOYY0mrVbHzLD61ybOrpB4JDBaN_OK5kXPib7r0i50M" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sophie's story about a stablemaster and a maid?</a> No <a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2018/01/who-did-it-better-on-horse.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">horses</a> were harmed, so it's fine.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/5/5/s0235-freewheeling-with-sophie-jordan-a-taking-the-finger-explainer-episode-W1FeR </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/5/5/s0235-freewheeling-with-sophie-jordan-a-taking-the-finger-explainer-episode-W1FeR]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5eb1df790923bd3f1fada1ef</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2020 17:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/1e4883f4-26b8-426c-8189-83b587873fa4/fated-mates-sophie-jordan-final-master.mp3" length="69520643" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:06:29</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>35</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>35</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Sophie Jordan is back again! She’s got a new book out, The Virgin and the Rogue, and she’s back with us to freewheel about old school romances, aphrodisiac plotlines and just what do we mean when we say “taking the finger?” It’s a delightful hour. You won’t regret it.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-1e4883f4-26b8-426c-8189-83b587873fa4.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S02.34: Texas! Chase by Sandra Brown: The Original Sexclamation Point</title><itunes:title>Texas! Chase by Sandra Brown: The Original Sexclamation Point</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes there’s a writer who’s so transformative to your experience as a reader that you forget she even was a part of it until you remember, and then you remember <strong>every book she’s written</strong>. It’s Sandra Brown week here at Fated Mates, and we have loved so many of her romances that we just didn’t know what to read, so strap in, because both Jen and Sarah read Texas! Chase, and then two roads diverged, only to discover some real deep-rooted kinky stuff. Strap in. This one left Eric shellshocked!</p><p>We love having you with us! — subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform and like/review the podcast, please!</p><p>In two weeks, we’re reading a book that blooded Jen, Jenny Crusie’s <a href="https://amzn.to/2Sg5it0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Bet Me</em></a>! Which you can get bundled with <em>Welcome to Temptation </em>(get this one — it’s $2. cheaper than getting Bet Me alone!) from <a href="https://amzn.to/2Sg5it0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/welcome-to-temptation-bet-me-jennifer-crusie/1111638080" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/bet-me/id383912025?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/welcome-to-temptation-bet-me" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> … and don’t forget your favorite indie, which is probably shipping books right now and definitely needs your patronage!</p><p>Also, if you love the music in this or any of our episodes, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6QWZy7vo4Dw9eS733PJj1U?si=W1voWFsHS5uPHHkw0WCHMw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">check out our Spotify playlist</a>, which includes it all!</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Jen's been thinking about how we're going to archive the Quarantine Times and <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/15/us/coronavirus-pandemic-historians-archive.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">so are historians</a>. <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@jennifer_middleschool/video/6818235629059525893" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Steve Ammidown was kind enough to make some videos about archiving</a> for Jen's TikTok.</li><li>Turns out that <a href="https://groundhog-apricot-gbcy.squarespace.com/spanish-politician-misidentified-posts-saying-soccer-players-should-find-novel-coronavirus-cure" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tweet about the Spanish epidimologist was not true</a>! Blessed be the fact checkers.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lori_Lightfoot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lori Lightfoot</a> is Jen's mayor and <a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicolefisher/2020/04/08/how-one-mayor-used-memes-to-change-the-covid19-message/#1b46b50a5cb8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">her Coronavirus memes are the best</a>.</li><li>Everyone knows who <a href="http://www.nfl.com/player/tombrady/2504211/careerstats" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tom Brady</a> is, <a href="https://thelab.bleacherreport.com/why-you-really-hate-tom-brady/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">but not many people seem to like him.</a></li><li>Sandra Brown was in the first class of authors acquired by <a href="https://twitter.com/BGSU_PopCultLib/status/1255201006851366919" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vivian Stephens</a>. Her Loveswept #1 was <a href="https://archive.org/details/heavensprice00brow/page/2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heaven's Price,</a> and her Harlequin American Romance #1 was Tomorrow's Promise. Steve Ammidown was also kind enough to dig into the archives and pull out some early interviews with <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1l24dR49A2F0yXAWD2oN5yz_TZcJgxpj0/view?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sandra Brown</a> and about <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1m3vVYRbph18WnifNyz-3YyCYwWoJl6kW/view?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the founding of</a> <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YJbxihEM_n2uQgJ6_Ek8zIkpJscdMo4i/view?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Loveswept</a>.</li><li>Benjamin Dreyer definitely <a href="https://twitter.com/BCDreyer/status/1161689660613156870" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wants you to know</a> <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/14/style/em-dash-punctuation.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the difference between the</a> <a href="https://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/qanda/data/faq/topics/HyphensEnDashesEmDashes/faq0002.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">em dash, en dash, and the hypen</a>.</li><li>The Rana Look cover has the author and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McLean_Stevenson" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">McLean Stevenson from MASH</a> as the cover models. Whoa.</li><li>You can still join <a href="https://www.doubledaybookclub.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Doubleday Book Club</a>. Who knew!</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/JeffRightNoww" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jeff Wright</a> has a very funny TikTok (which he crossposts to Twitter and Instagram) and a very distinctive way of saying <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffRightNoww/status/1252402213130891268" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Oh Wow</a>.</li><li><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CliY4GEOx0YFh49Ul72rp0IygTpw7018/view?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sheikhs</a> &amp; <a href="https://bookriot.com/2018/01/04/native-american-romance-novels/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Native Americans</a> in romance are full of racist, harmful stereotypes.</li><li>Jennifer Porter <a href="https://twitter.com/JenniferRNN/status/1251958244450467845" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">took the hit</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/JenniferRNN/status/1252007246927728640" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">on Texas! Lucky</a> for us.</li><li><a href="https://www.vox.com/2020/4/20/21224659/coronavirus-stimulus-money-oil-prices-fossil-fuels-bailout" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Oil Futures</a> aren't looking good for the Tyler family; <a href="https://www.texastribune.org/2020/04/20/coronavirus-houston-rodeo-proceeded-despite-growing-risk/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">it's not looking great for</a> <a href="https://www.rodeohouston.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the rodeo</a>, either.</li><li>The primordal <a href="https://www.tvovermind.com/don-johnson-in-the-80s/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">80s Don</a>. <a href="https://youtu.be/i96VS_z8y7g" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Not him</a>. That was the 70s.</li><li>Sunny Chandler's job as a <a href="https://www.mardigrasdesigns.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mardi Gras costume designer</a> seems pretty sweet. Here's a cool interview with <a href="https://youtu.be/gFxyjg0q3tQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Patricia Halsell-Richardson</a>, a woman who designs Mardi Gras costumes in Mobile.</li><li>A quick primer to <a href="https://www.vox.com/2018/3/20/16955588/feminism-waves-explained-first-second-third-fourth" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the waves of feminism</a> and what people thought about <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1986/09/women-in-the-work-force/304924/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">working women in the 80s</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/1997/05/27/nyregion/chronicle-311456.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sandra Brown's house was blown up</a> for an episode of Walker, Texas Ranger. A show that is <a href="https://deadline.com/2019/09/walker-texas-ranger-reboot-jared-padalecki-in-the-works-chuck-norris-1202741160/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">making a comeback</a>, as it turns out.</li><li><a href="https://www.texasmonthly.com/category/topics/ann-richards/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ann Richards</a> was pretty great, and so is <a href="https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/cecile-richards-planned-parenthood-813691/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">her daughter Cecile.</a></li><li>GQ has some instructions on <a href="https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/the-gq-guide-to-dilfs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">how to be a DILF</a>, but <a href="https://amzn.to/2zFnciE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">our current favorite is by Katee Roberts</a>.</li><li>Slow Heat in Heaven has a plot about dogfighting, but Sarah mentioned a romance where <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/1/27/s0221-old-school-category-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the dogs fall in love </a>back when we talked about non-Sandra Brown category romances.</li><li>The <a href="https://www.pbs.org/wnet/pioneers-of-television/pioneering-programs/primetime-soaps/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">80s Primetime Soap Operas</a> were <a href="https://lithub.com/how-the-1980s-soap-opera-craze-changed-television-forever/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a force to be reckoned with</a>.</li><li>Next time, we'll be talking about Bet Me by Jenny Crusie. <a href="https://amzn.to/3cXCVIi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">For some reason, it's cheaper to buy it bundled with Welcome To Temptation</a>. /rolls eyes at eBook pricing on a 20 year old book.</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes there’s a writer who’s so transformative to your experience as a reader that you forget she even was a part of it until you remember, and then you remember <strong>every book she’s written</strong>. It’s Sandra Brown week here at Fated Mates, and we have loved so many of her romances that we just didn’t know what to read, so strap in, because both Jen and Sarah read Texas! Chase, and then two roads diverged, only to discover some real deep-rooted kinky stuff. Strap in. This one left Eric shellshocked!</p><p>We love having you with us! — subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform and like/review the podcast, please!</p><p>In two weeks, we’re reading a book that blooded Jen, Jenny Crusie’s <a href="https://amzn.to/2Sg5it0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Bet Me</em></a>! Which you can get bundled with <em>Welcome to Temptation </em>(get this one — it’s $2. cheaper than getting Bet Me alone!) from <a href="https://amzn.to/2Sg5it0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/welcome-to-temptation-bet-me-jennifer-crusie/1111638080" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/bet-me/id383912025?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/welcome-to-temptation-bet-me" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> … and don’t forget your favorite indie, which is probably shipping books right now and definitely needs your patronage!</p><p>Also, if you love the music in this or any of our episodes, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6QWZy7vo4Dw9eS733PJj1U?si=W1voWFsHS5uPHHkw0WCHMw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">check out our Spotify playlist</a>, which includes it all!</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Jen's been thinking about how we're going to archive the Quarantine Times and <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/15/us/coronavirus-pandemic-historians-archive.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">so are historians</a>. <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@jennifer_middleschool/video/6818235629059525893" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Steve Ammidown was kind enough to make some videos about archiving</a> for Jen's TikTok.</li><li>Turns out that <a href="https://groundhog-apricot-gbcy.squarespace.com/spanish-politician-misidentified-posts-saying-soccer-players-should-find-novel-coronavirus-cure" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tweet about the Spanish epidimologist was not true</a>! Blessed be the fact checkers.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lori_Lightfoot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lori Lightfoot</a> is Jen's mayor and <a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicolefisher/2020/04/08/how-one-mayor-used-memes-to-change-the-covid19-message/#1b46b50a5cb8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">her Coronavirus memes are the best</a>.</li><li>Everyone knows who <a href="http://www.nfl.com/player/tombrady/2504211/careerstats" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tom Brady</a> is, <a href="https://thelab.bleacherreport.com/why-you-really-hate-tom-brady/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">but not many people seem to like him.</a></li><li>Sandra Brown was in the first class of authors acquired by <a href="https://twitter.com/BGSU_PopCultLib/status/1255201006851366919" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vivian Stephens</a>. Her Loveswept #1 was <a href="https://archive.org/details/heavensprice00brow/page/2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heaven's Price,</a> and her Harlequin American Romance #1 was Tomorrow's Promise. Steve Ammidown was also kind enough to dig into the archives and pull out some early interviews with <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1l24dR49A2F0yXAWD2oN5yz_TZcJgxpj0/view?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sandra Brown</a> and about <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1m3vVYRbph18WnifNyz-3YyCYwWoJl6kW/view?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the founding of</a> <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YJbxihEM_n2uQgJ6_Ek8zIkpJscdMo4i/view?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Loveswept</a>.</li><li>Benjamin Dreyer definitely <a href="https://twitter.com/BCDreyer/status/1161689660613156870" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wants you to know</a> <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/14/style/em-dash-punctuation.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the difference between the</a> <a href="https://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/qanda/data/faq/topics/HyphensEnDashesEmDashes/faq0002.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">em dash, en dash, and the hypen</a>.</li><li>The Rana Look cover has the author and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McLean_Stevenson" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">McLean Stevenson from MASH</a> as the cover models. Whoa.</li><li>You can still join <a href="https://www.doubledaybookclub.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Doubleday Book Club</a>. Who knew!</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/JeffRightNoww" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jeff Wright</a> has a very funny TikTok (which he crossposts to Twitter and Instagram) and a very distinctive way of saying <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffRightNoww/status/1252402213130891268" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Oh Wow</a>.</li><li><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CliY4GEOx0YFh49Ul72rp0IygTpw7018/view?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sheikhs</a> &amp; <a href="https://bookriot.com/2018/01/04/native-american-romance-novels/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Native Americans</a> in romance are full of racist, harmful stereotypes.</li><li>Jennifer Porter <a href="https://twitter.com/JenniferRNN/status/1251958244450467845" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">took the hit</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/JenniferRNN/status/1252007246927728640" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">on Texas! Lucky</a> for us.</li><li><a href="https://www.vox.com/2020/4/20/21224659/coronavirus-stimulus-money-oil-prices-fossil-fuels-bailout" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Oil Futures</a> aren't looking good for the Tyler family; <a href="https://www.texastribune.org/2020/04/20/coronavirus-houston-rodeo-proceeded-despite-growing-risk/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">it's not looking great for</a> <a href="https://www.rodeohouston.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the rodeo</a>, either.</li><li>The primordal <a href="https://www.tvovermind.com/don-johnson-in-the-80s/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">80s Don</a>. <a href="https://youtu.be/i96VS_z8y7g" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Not him</a>. That was the 70s.</li><li>Sunny Chandler's job as a <a href="https://www.mardigrasdesigns.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mardi Gras costume designer</a> seems pretty sweet. Here's a cool interview with <a href="https://youtu.be/gFxyjg0q3tQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Patricia Halsell-Richardson</a>, a woman who designs Mardi Gras costumes in Mobile.</li><li>A quick primer to <a href="https://www.vox.com/2018/3/20/16955588/feminism-waves-explained-first-second-third-fourth" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the waves of feminism</a> and what people thought about <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1986/09/women-in-the-work-force/304924/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">working women in the 80s</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/1997/05/27/nyregion/chronicle-311456.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sandra Brown's house was blown up</a> for an episode of Walker, Texas Ranger. A show that is <a href="https://deadline.com/2019/09/walker-texas-ranger-reboot-jared-padalecki-in-the-works-chuck-norris-1202741160/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">making a comeback</a>, as it turns out.</li><li><a href="https://www.texasmonthly.com/category/topics/ann-richards/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ann Richards</a> was pretty great, and so is <a href="https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/cecile-richards-planned-parenthood-813691/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">her daughter Cecile.</a></li><li>GQ has some instructions on <a href="https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/the-gq-guide-to-dilfs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">how to be a DILF</a>, but <a href="https://amzn.to/2zFnciE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">our current favorite is by Katee Roberts</a>.</li><li>Slow Heat in Heaven has a plot about dogfighting, but Sarah mentioned a romance where <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/1/27/s0221-old-school-category-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the dogs fall in love </a>back when we talked about non-Sandra Brown category romances.</li><li>The <a href="https://www.pbs.org/wnet/pioneers-of-television/pioneering-programs/primetime-soaps/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">80s Primetime Soap Operas</a> were <a href="https://lithub.com/how-the-1980s-soap-opera-craze-changed-television-forever/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a force to be reckoned with</a>.</li><li>Next time, we'll be talking about Bet Me by Jenny Crusie. <a href="https://amzn.to/3cXCVIi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">For some reason, it's cheaper to buy it bundled with Welcome To Temptation</a>. /rolls eyes at eBook pricing on a 20 year old book.</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/4/28/s0234-texas-chase-by-sandra-brown]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5ea871f01f97a24a6bca7898</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2020 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/d77d92f8-ff37-4371-97f0-712afe862e84/fated-mates-sandra-brown-final-mastered.mp3" length="84276967" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:24:04</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>34</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>34</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Sometimes there’s a writer who’s so transformative to your experience as a reader that you forget she even was a part of it until you remember, and then you remember every book she’s written. It’s Sandra Brown week here at Fated Mates, and we have loved so many of her romances that we just didn’t know what to read, so strap in, because both Jen and Sarah read Texas! Chase, and then two roads diverged, only to discover some real deep-rooted kinky stuff. Strap in. This one left Eric shellshocked!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-d77d92f8-ff37-4371-97f0-712afe862e84.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S02.33: Enemies to Lovers with Tasha Harrison</title><itunes:title>Enemies to Lovers with Tasha Harrison</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Tasha Harrison is joining us this week to talk about an old reliable trope — enemies to lovers! This is one of those that we return to again and again — and of course, since it’s a Pandemic, we have to ask…if you’re into enemies to lovers and you haven’t read Kresley Cole’s Immortals After Dark, what are you waiting for? Season 1 is here for you! Otherwise, we’re freewheeling with Tasha on everything from the best Chris to the real inspiration for The Wire, so strap in. It’s a ride!</p><p>We love having you with us! — subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform and like/review the podcast, please!</p><p>Next week, we’re reading <a href="https://sandrabrown.net/booklist/classic-romance/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sandra Brown</a>! Jen and Sarah will be reading <em>Texas! Chase</em>, but it’s dealers’ choice! Pick your favorite old Sandra Brown or ask us for a rec on Twitter or Instagram! Maybe you want <em>That Rana Look</em>? Or <em>Slow Heat in Heaven</em>? Or <em>French Silk</em>? You can find them wherever books are sold (but the Texas! series isn’t in ebook format yet, sadly) — and don’t forget your favorite indie!</p><p>Also, if you love the music in this or any of our episodes, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6QWZy7vo4Dw9eS733PJj1U?si=W1voWFsHS5uPHHkw0WCHMw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">check out our Spotify playlist</a>, which includes it all!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/26/business/coronavirus-internet-traffic-speed.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The internet is so slow</a>.</li><li>Remember that time when <a href="https://youtu.be/ElZYipV81QM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Michelle from Destiny's Child fell</a>and then <a href="https://thegrio.com/2016/02/11/michelle-williams-responds-to-throwback-video-of-destinys-child-stage-fall/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">got right back up</a>?</li><li><a href="https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/chosen-one-of-the-day-fraggle-rock-marjory-the-trash-heap" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Fraggle Rock Trash Heap</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/news-and-features/articles/physics-of-great-romance-fiction/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen wrote about Enemies to Lovers</a> for Kirkus.</li><li>Apparently, it's called a <a href="http://www.rinkworks.com/words/eponyms.shtml" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Proprietary Eponyms</a> <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/24/smarter-living/how-a-brand-name-becomes-generic.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">when a brand name becomes a verb or common noun</a>.</li><li><a href="https://electricliterature.com/should-fiction-be-timeless-pop-culture-references-in-contemporary-novels/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The question of whether or not fiction should be "timeless"</a> is one that authors deal with in different ways.</li><li><a href="https://www.vogue.com/article/robert-redford-hollywood-most-stylish-man" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Robert Redford was a snack</a>. <a href="https://www.thestar.com.my/lifestyle/people/2018/07/26/kevin-costner-once-hailed-as-the-sexiest-man-alive-on-his-appeal-as-an-actor" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kevin Costner</a> was named <a href="https://muscatinejournal.com/entertainment/here-s-a-look-at-every-sexiest-man-alive-since/collection_883addaf-71e2-51fb-b56c-827069746814.html#34" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Sexiest Man Alive</a>, but Jen thinks the only time he was truly sexy was in <a href="https://youtu.be/pWRCxdh4PTM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bull Durham.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/the-decade-long-power-ranking-of-the-chrises" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Can there ever be a definitive ranking of the Chrises</a>? Jen likes <a href="https://dujour.com/wp-content/uploads/057a56b1324c.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pine</a>, Sarah likes <a href="https://clickbinge.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Chris-Hemsworth-Shirtless-Pics-Sexy-Photos-Hot-GIFs-9.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"the Australian one,"</a> and Tasha isn't interested in any of them. Sarah has <a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/993260384055451648" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chris Evans blindness</a>, but Tasha points out that he's got a little of the wild one in him. <a href="https://youtu.be/4Vt90ez0e9A" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Check him checking out this reporter's boots.</a></li><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/4/7/s0231-forced-proximity-interstitial-with-christina-lauren" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">We just had Christina Lauren on our show</a>! Beautiful Bastard is better than Fifty Shades in a lot of ways, especially for <a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2018/01/who-did-it-better-in-elevator.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">that elevator scene</a>. Either way, it's a good illustration of the myriad problems with a workplace romance.</li><li>Speaking of <a href="https://twitter.com/BestFriendKelly/status/1154837072093548551" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lucy Eden</a>, she and Jen had THE STRANGEST thing happen at the 2019 RWA conference.</li><li>Babies are complicated in romance and complicated in real life. Maybe what we're really going to see is a boom in <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show/marriage-in-trouble" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"marriage in trouble" romance.</a> Kids are complicated, too, especially if you buy the wrong <a href="https://twitter.com/tashalharrison/status/1242831104958136320" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">poop bags</a>.</li><li>Tasha's dad inspired the character of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Wilson_(The_Wire)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Norman Wilson on The Wire</a>! <a href="https://www.afro.com/section/news/baltimore-news/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Baltimore paper The Afro-American</a> can be read online. The real life Baltimore Mayor he worked for was <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_O%27Malley" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Martin O'Malley</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/23/this-is-not-a-film-italian-mayors-rage-coronavirus-lockdown-dodgers" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">These Italian Mayors want you to stay inside.</a> If only all the American governors and mayors were the same. <a href="https://youtu.be/7M9_0pjW1GE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cardi-B is worried about Coronavirus-- so stay home and stay safe!</a></li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/4/21/s0233-enemies-to-lovers-interstitial-with-tasha-harrison-bwm6H </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tasha Harrison is joining us this week to talk about an old reliable trope — enemies to lovers! This is one of those that we return to again and again — and of course, since it’s a Pandemic, we have to ask…if you’re into enemies to lovers and you haven’t read Kresley Cole’s Immortals After Dark, what are you waiting for? Season 1 is here for you! Otherwise, we’re freewheeling with Tasha on everything from the best Chris to the real inspiration for The Wire, so strap in. It’s a ride!</p><p>We love having you with us! — subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform and like/review the podcast, please!</p><p>Next week, we’re reading <a href="https://sandrabrown.net/booklist/classic-romance/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sandra Brown</a>! Jen and Sarah will be reading <em>Texas! Chase</em>, but it’s dealers’ choice! Pick your favorite old Sandra Brown or ask us for a rec on Twitter or Instagram! Maybe you want <em>That Rana Look</em>? Or <em>Slow Heat in Heaven</em>? Or <em>French Silk</em>? You can find them wherever books are sold (but the Texas! series isn’t in ebook format yet, sadly) — and don’t forget your favorite indie!</p><p>Also, if you love the music in this or any of our episodes, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6QWZy7vo4Dw9eS733PJj1U?si=W1voWFsHS5uPHHkw0WCHMw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">check out our Spotify playlist</a>, which includes it all!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/26/business/coronavirus-internet-traffic-speed.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The internet is so slow</a>.</li><li>Remember that time when <a href="https://youtu.be/ElZYipV81QM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Michelle from Destiny's Child fell</a>and then <a href="https://thegrio.com/2016/02/11/michelle-williams-responds-to-throwback-video-of-destinys-child-stage-fall/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">got right back up</a>?</li><li><a href="https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/chosen-one-of-the-day-fraggle-rock-marjory-the-trash-heap" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Fraggle Rock Trash Heap</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/news-and-features/articles/physics-of-great-romance-fiction/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen wrote about Enemies to Lovers</a> for Kirkus.</li><li>Apparently, it's called a <a href="http://www.rinkworks.com/words/eponyms.shtml" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Proprietary Eponyms</a> <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/24/smarter-living/how-a-brand-name-becomes-generic.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">when a brand name becomes a verb or common noun</a>.</li><li><a href="https://electricliterature.com/should-fiction-be-timeless-pop-culture-references-in-contemporary-novels/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The question of whether or not fiction should be "timeless"</a> is one that authors deal with in different ways.</li><li><a href="https://www.vogue.com/article/robert-redford-hollywood-most-stylish-man" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Robert Redford was a snack</a>. <a href="https://www.thestar.com.my/lifestyle/people/2018/07/26/kevin-costner-once-hailed-as-the-sexiest-man-alive-on-his-appeal-as-an-actor" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kevin Costner</a> was named <a href="https://muscatinejournal.com/entertainment/here-s-a-look-at-every-sexiest-man-alive-since/collection_883addaf-71e2-51fb-b56c-827069746814.html#34" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Sexiest Man Alive</a>, but Jen thinks the only time he was truly sexy was in <a href="https://youtu.be/pWRCxdh4PTM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bull Durham.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/the-decade-long-power-ranking-of-the-chrises" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Can there ever be a definitive ranking of the Chrises</a>? Jen likes <a href="https://dujour.com/wp-content/uploads/057a56b1324c.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pine</a>, Sarah likes <a href="https://clickbinge.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Chris-Hemsworth-Shirtless-Pics-Sexy-Photos-Hot-GIFs-9.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"the Australian one,"</a> and Tasha isn't interested in any of them. Sarah has <a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/993260384055451648" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chris Evans blindness</a>, but Tasha points out that he's got a little of the wild one in him. <a href="https://youtu.be/4Vt90ez0e9A" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Check him checking out this reporter's boots.</a></li><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/4/7/s0231-forced-proximity-interstitial-with-christina-lauren" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">We just had Christina Lauren on our show</a>! Beautiful Bastard is better than Fifty Shades in a lot of ways, especially for <a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2018/01/who-did-it-better-in-elevator.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">that elevator scene</a>. Either way, it's a good illustration of the myriad problems with a workplace romance.</li><li>Speaking of <a href="https://twitter.com/BestFriendKelly/status/1154837072093548551" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lucy Eden</a>, she and Jen had THE STRANGEST thing happen at the 2019 RWA conference.</li><li>Babies are complicated in romance and complicated in real life. Maybe what we're really going to see is a boom in <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show/marriage-in-trouble" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"marriage in trouble" romance.</a> Kids are complicated, too, especially if you buy the wrong <a href="https://twitter.com/tashalharrison/status/1242831104958136320" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">poop bags</a>.</li><li>Tasha's dad inspired the character of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Wilson_(The_Wire)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Norman Wilson on The Wire</a>! <a href="https://www.afro.com/section/news/baltimore-news/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Baltimore paper The Afro-American</a> can be read online. The real life Baltimore Mayor he worked for was <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_O%27Malley" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Martin O'Malley</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/23/this-is-not-a-film-italian-mayors-rage-coronavirus-lockdown-dodgers" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">These Italian Mayors want you to stay inside.</a> If only all the American governors and mayors were the same. <a href="https://youtu.be/7M9_0pjW1GE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cardi-B is worried about Coronavirus-- so stay home and stay safe!</a></li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/4/21/s0233-enemies-to-lovers-interstitial-with-tasha-harrison-bwm6H </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/4/21/s0233-enemies-to-lovers-interstitial-with-tasha-harrison-bwm6H]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5e9f258ab76f6c7d2085e530</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2020 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/b16d5c14-e23d-4e0c-9217-a1561cf61041/fated-mates-enemies-to-lovers.mp3" length="68585822" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:07:35</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>33</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>33</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Tasha Harrison is joining us this week to talk about an old reliable trope — enemies to lovers! This is one of those that we return to again and again — and of course, since it’s a Pandemic, we have to ask…if you’re into enemies to lovers and you haven’t read Kresley Cole’s Immortals After Dark, what are you waiting for? Season 1 is here for you! Otherwise, we’re freewheeling with Tasha on everything from the best Chris to the real inspiration for The Wire, so strap in. It’s a ride!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-b16d5c14-e23d-4e0c-9217-a1561cf61041.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S02.32: Taking the Heat by Victoria Dahl: Perfect Books are Perfect</title><itunes:title>Taking the Heat by Victoria Dahl: Perfect Books are Perfect</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We’re back to a more recent book that taught Sarah about contemporary romance, Victoria Dahl’s Taking the Heat. Use headphones for this one, because we’re talking about the best BJs in romance, the power of a great sex scene, and how we want you all to be in a sex pantheon. We’re also talking about flawed characters, true cinnamon rolls, and why Victoria Dahl is a fricken great author.</p><p>We love having you with us! — subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform and like/review the podcast, please!</p><p>In two weeks, we’re reading <a href="https://sandrabrown.net/booklist/classic-romance/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sandra Brown</a>! Jen and Sarah will be reading <em>Texas! Chase</em>, but it’s dealers’ choice! Pick your favorite old Sandra Brown or ask us for a rec on Twitter or Instagram! Maybe you want <em>That Rana Look</em>? Or <em>Slow Heat in Heaven</em>? Or <em>French Silk</em>? You can find them wherever books are sold (but the Texas! series isn’t in ebook format yet, sadly) — and don’t forget your favorite indie!</p><p>Also, if you love the music in this or any of our episodes, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6QWZy7vo4Dw9eS733PJj1U?si=W1voWFsHS5uPHHkw0WCHMw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">check out our Spotify playlist</a>, which includes it all!</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Sure, Sarah's new computer makes her feel like <a href="https://youtu.be/Gj4hpKGPHA0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lightning McQueen</a>, but it's her new version of <a href="https://thewritelife.com/scrivener-review/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scrivener</a> that is the most exciting thing.</li><li>Jen isn't the only one who likes <a href="https://www.thetalko.com/starburst-jelly-bean-flavors-ranked/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Starburst jelly beans</a>.</li><li>Sarah has planner envy. We both love <a href="https://blackwing602.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blackwing pencils.</a> If you also love Blackwing pencils, we highly recommend <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spMaP-_Cq_8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this video</a> by comedian David Rees on Artisinal Pencil Sharpening. <a href="https://amzn.to/3a3fco8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">There's also a book</a>! We don't quite understand <a href="https://www.coupons.com/thegoodstuff/what-is-washi-tape/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">washi tape</a>, but we're happy for those who love it. If you want to talk planners, <a href="https://twitter.com/Nishawrites" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nisha Sharma</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/kateclayborn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kate Clayborn</a>, and <a href="https://twitter.com/tlivesay" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tracey Livesay</a> are your people.</li><li>RIP <a href="https://www.bookexpoamerica.com/home/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">BEA</a> 2020, we look forward to 2021.</li><li>Jen is addicted to <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/08/business/coronavirus-jigsaw-puzzles.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">jigsaw puzzles</a>, <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2020/03/24/americans-are-stocking-up-dry-goods-toilet-paper-puzzles/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">just like</a> <a href="https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020/04/08/puzzle-warehouse-reports-sales-are-up-2000-from-this-time-last-year/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">everyone else</a> in the world.</li><li>The city junk problem is actually <a href="https://cheapist.blog/Free-stuff-curb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">pretty great</a>.</li><li>Victoria Dahl also writes as <a href="https://victoriahelenstone.com/about/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Victoria Helen Stone</a>. Jen rediscovered contemporary romance with the <a href="https://amzn.to/2VsWrVZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumble Creek series</a>, and also the <a href="https://amzn.to/2xjtxQ5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fast Track series</a> by Erin McCarthy.</li><li>Gabe's job was to introduce <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/books/2002/jan/03/ebooks.technology" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">eBooks</a> to the library. <a href="https://digitalpublishing101.com/digital-publishing-101/digital-publishing-basics/a-very-short-history/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">We've come a long way, baby</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.jacksonwy.gov/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jackson, Wyoming</a> is the setting of this book, and apparently there's a lot to do there -- like <a href="https://www.jacksonhole.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">skiing</a> and <a href="https://www.jacksonholewy.com/blog/climbing-in-jackson-hole/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">rock climbing</a>. It's all outdoorsy, so we can't really speak to it.</li><li>The <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show/small-town-romance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">big city to small town trope</a> is a cornerstone of romance. It's just not a corner <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/5/6/125-small-town-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">we visit that often</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/advice-columns-shaped-americans-180968820/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The advice columnist</a> is experiencing <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2015/12/how-the-internet-changed-advice-columns/420579/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a huge resurgence</a> these days, and in the age of the internet, <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/oct/16/advice-columns-are-an-addictive-antidote-to-our-polished-online-lives" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">everyone can give advice.</a></li><li>Some <a href="https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">useful resources</a> if someone you know is sharing their thoughts of <a href="https://www.nami.org/Blogs/NAMI-Blog/September-2017/Learning-More-About-Suicidal-Ideation" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">suicidal ideation.</a></li><li>That Elizabeth Hoyt book with Winter Makepeace is called <a href="https://amzn.to/2XBJSdF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Thief of Shadows</a>, and it also has a great blow job scene. In case you're into that sort of thing.</li><li>Watch the <a href="https://youtu.be/zuqUB_-RuZ0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ending of Crocodile Dundee</a> if you've never had the pleasure.</li><li>If you are looking to try a new podcast app, we both love <a href="https://overcast.fm/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Overcast</a>. Along with being a great listening device, you can use it to find and share any podcast clips online!</li><li>Preorder <a href="https://amzn.to/2Va754S" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Daring and the Duke</a>! Support your local indie bookstore, Sarah's is <a href="https://www.wordbookstores.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">WORD</a> in Brooklyn and Jen's is <a href="https://57th.semcoop.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">57th Street Books</a> in Chicago. And everyone's is <a href="http://lovessweetarrow.com/index.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love's Sweet Arrow</a> or <a href="https://www.therippedbodicela.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Ripped Bodice</a>.</li><li>Next time, it's choose your own <a href="https://sandrabrown.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sandra Brown</a> adventure. We'll both read Texas! Chase, which believe it or not isn't on Kindle, but <a href="https://amzn.to/2RDIVOe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">it is on audio</a>! We'll also post a thread of some other Sandra Brown favorites. And if straight thriller is your thing, try <a href="https://amzn.to/2VpIFTU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">OutFox</a>, which is the one Sarah's mom enjoyed.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/4/14/s0232-taking-the-heat-by-victoria-dahl </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We’re back to a more recent book that taught Sarah about contemporary romance, Victoria Dahl’s Taking the Heat. Use headphones for this one, because we’re talking about the best BJs in romance, the power of a great sex scene, and how we want you all to be in a sex pantheon. We’re also talking about flawed characters, true cinnamon rolls, and why Victoria Dahl is a fricken great author.</p><p>We love having you with us! — subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform and like/review the podcast, please!</p><p>In two weeks, we’re reading <a href="https://sandrabrown.net/booklist/classic-romance/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sandra Brown</a>! Jen and Sarah will be reading <em>Texas! Chase</em>, but it’s dealers’ choice! Pick your favorite old Sandra Brown or ask us for a rec on Twitter or Instagram! Maybe you want <em>That Rana Look</em>? Or <em>Slow Heat in Heaven</em>? Or <em>French Silk</em>? You can find them wherever books are sold (but the Texas! series isn’t in ebook format yet, sadly) — and don’t forget your favorite indie!</p><p>Also, if you love the music in this or any of our episodes, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6QWZy7vo4Dw9eS733PJj1U?si=W1voWFsHS5uPHHkw0WCHMw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">check out our Spotify playlist</a>, which includes it all!</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Sure, Sarah's new computer makes her feel like <a href="https://youtu.be/Gj4hpKGPHA0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lightning McQueen</a>, but it's her new version of <a href="https://thewritelife.com/scrivener-review/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scrivener</a> that is the most exciting thing.</li><li>Jen isn't the only one who likes <a href="https://www.thetalko.com/starburst-jelly-bean-flavors-ranked/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Starburst jelly beans</a>.</li><li>Sarah has planner envy. We both love <a href="https://blackwing602.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blackwing pencils.</a> If you also love Blackwing pencils, we highly recommend <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spMaP-_Cq_8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this video</a> by comedian David Rees on Artisinal Pencil Sharpening. <a href="https://amzn.to/3a3fco8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">There's also a book</a>! We don't quite understand <a href="https://www.coupons.com/thegoodstuff/what-is-washi-tape/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">washi tape</a>, but we're happy for those who love it. If you want to talk planners, <a href="https://twitter.com/Nishawrites" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nisha Sharma</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/kateclayborn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kate Clayborn</a>, and <a href="https://twitter.com/tlivesay" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tracey Livesay</a> are your people.</li><li>RIP <a href="https://www.bookexpoamerica.com/home/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">BEA</a> 2020, we look forward to 2021.</li><li>Jen is addicted to <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/08/business/coronavirus-jigsaw-puzzles.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">jigsaw puzzles</a>, <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2020/03/24/americans-are-stocking-up-dry-goods-toilet-paper-puzzles/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">just like</a> <a href="https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020/04/08/puzzle-warehouse-reports-sales-are-up-2000-from-this-time-last-year/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">everyone else</a> in the world.</li><li>The city junk problem is actually <a href="https://cheapist.blog/Free-stuff-curb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">pretty great</a>.</li><li>Victoria Dahl also writes as <a href="https://victoriahelenstone.com/about/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Victoria Helen Stone</a>. Jen rediscovered contemporary romance with the <a href="https://amzn.to/2VsWrVZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumble Creek series</a>, and also the <a href="https://amzn.to/2xjtxQ5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fast Track series</a> by Erin McCarthy.</li><li>Gabe's job was to introduce <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/books/2002/jan/03/ebooks.technology" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">eBooks</a> to the library. <a href="https://digitalpublishing101.com/digital-publishing-101/digital-publishing-basics/a-very-short-history/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">We've come a long way, baby</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.jacksonwy.gov/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jackson, Wyoming</a> is the setting of this book, and apparently there's a lot to do there -- like <a href="https://www.jacksonhole.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">skiing</a> and <a href="https://www.jacksonholewy.com/blog/climbing-in-jackson-hole/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">rock climbing</a>. It's all outdoorsy, so we can't really speak to it.</li><li>The <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show/small-town-romance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">big city to small town trope</a> is a cornerstone of romance. It's just not a corner <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/5/6/125-small-town-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">we visit that often</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/advice-columns-shaped-americans-180968820/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The advice columnist</a> is experiencing <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2015/12/how-the-internet-changed-advice-columns/420579/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a huge resurgence</a> these days, and in the age of the internet, <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/oct/16/advice-columns-are-an-addictive-antidote-to-our-polished-online-lives" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">everyone can give advice.</a></li><li>Some <a href="https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">useful resources</a> if someone you know is sharing their thoughts of <a href="https://www.nami.org/Blogs/NAMI-Blog/September-2017/Learning-More-About-Suicidal-Ideation" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">suicidal ideation.</a></li><li>That Elizabeth Hoyt book with Winter Makepeace is called <a href="https://amzn.to/2XBJSdF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Thief of Shadows</a>, and it also has a great blow job scene. In case you're into that sort of thing.</li><li>Watch the <a href="https://youtu.be/zuqUB_-RuZ0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ending of Crocodile Dundee</a> if you've never had the pleasure.</li><li>If you are looking to try a new podcast app, we both love <a href="https://overcast.fm/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Overcast</a>. Along with being a great listening device, you can use it to find and share any podcast clips online!</li><li>Preorder <a href="https://amzn.to/2Va754S" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Daring and the Duke</a>! Support your local indie bookstore, Sarah's is <a href="https://www.wordbookstores.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">WORD</a> in Brooklyn and Jen's is <a href="https://57th.semcoop.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">57th Street Books</a> in Chicago. And everyone's is <a href="http://lovessweetarrow.com/index.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love's Sweet Arrow</a> or <a href="https://www.therippedbodicela.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Ripped Bodice</a>.</li><li>Next time, it's choose your own <a href="https://sandrabrown.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sandra Brown</a> adventure. We'll both read Texas! Chase, which believe it or not isn't on Kindle, but <a href="https://amzn.to/2RDIVOe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">it is on audio</a>! We'll also post a thread of some other Sandra Brown favorites. And if straight thriller is your thing, try <a href="https://amzn.to/2VpIFTU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">OutFox</a>, which is the one Sarah's mom enjoyed.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/4/14/s0232-taking-the-heat-by-victoria-dahl </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/4/14/s0232-taking-the-heat-by-victoria-dahl]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5e95fca72aae8d6545a2e053</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2020 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/6c7ce0c3-f6e9-42f3-b710-f2cbd6a54e6d/fated-mates-victoria-dahl-final-mastered.mp3" length="66223845" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:04:51</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>32</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>32</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We’re back to a more recent book that taught Sarah about contemporary romance, Victoria Dahl’s Taking the Heat. Use headphones for this one, because we’re talking about the best BJs in romance, the power of a great sex scene, and how we want you all to be in a sex pantheon. We’re also talking about flawed characters, true cinnamon rolls, and why Victoria Dahl is a fricken great author.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-6c7ce0c3-f6e9-42f3-b710-f2cbd6a54e6d.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S02.31: Forced Proximity Romances with Christina Lauren</title><itunes:title>Forced Proximity Romances with Christina Lauren</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This week, we’ve got two tremendous guests and we’re coming to you from four different time zones! Coronavirus silver lining — time has literally no meaning any longer. We’re talking to the brilliant duo Christina Lauren about their new book, The Honey Don’t List, and forced proximity romances — which is a crowd favorite…or at least <em>was</em> a crowd favorite until we were all forced into forced proximity!</p><p>Next week, we’re reading Victoria Dahl’s <em>Taking the Heat</em>. We know it’s tough to get it in print, but find it in e at your local library or at: <a href="https://amzn.to/2UwHYJ5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/taking-the-heat-victoria-dahl/1120976718" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/taking-the-heat/id1247948921?mt=11&amp;app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/taking-the-heat-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or in print, mailed from <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9780373779703" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a> (which is probably still shipping!)</p><p>We hope you’re staying safe!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome <a href="http://christinalaurenbooks.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Christina Lauren</a>! Check out their new release, a forced proximity romance called <a href="https://amzn.to/2JJyjJd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Honey Don't List</a>. Perhpas, like Sarah, you need to understand the <a href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/everybody-marries-the-wrong-person/201012/disgruntled-partners-defend-honey-do-lists" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"honey do"</a> list.</li><li>If you're worried about <a href="https://lifehacker.com/behind-the-app-the-story-of-zombies-run-1632445358" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">zombies running</a>, there's <a href="https://zombiesrungame.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">an app for that</a>.</li><li>Christina and Lauren said their cover reminds them of <a href="https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/lizzo-2019-mtv-video-music-awards-876645/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lizzo's big inflatable butt at the 2019 AMAs</a>.</li><li>Jen wrote <a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/news-and-features/articles/one-bed-romance-close-quarters/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a Kirkus column about why "only one bed"</a> is one of the most delightful subsets of the "forced proximity" trope.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/_ImAnAdult" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amanda Diehl</a> <a href="https://bookpage.com/search?contributor_id=877" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">reviews for BookPage</a> and also for Smart Bitches Trashy Books. <a href="https://bookpage.com/interviews/24947-christina-lauren-romance#.XoylMVNKgWo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Here is her inteview with Christina Lauren</a>.</li><li>Sarah mentioned the great <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2003/08/15/nyregion/blackout-2003-overview-power-surge-blacks-northeast-hitting-cities-8-states.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">New York City Blackout of 2003</a>, but it turns out <a href="https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/2003-blackout-five-years-later/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a field in Ohio caused the problem</a>.</li><li>"He is <a href="https://youtu.be/YejxyaFyUHc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">poison</a> to everyone but her" is of course a reference back to Sarah's favorite IAD book, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/27/16-sweet-ruin" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sweet Ruin</a>.</li><li>All about <a href="https://www.colonialwilliamsburg.org/locations/wheelwright/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wheelwrights</a>.</li><li>Wondering what it's really like <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/daily-life-in-antarctic-research-stations-2018-11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">for scientists on Antarctica</a> is no place you'd want to be trapped, and certainly no place for a <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1228790473969557504" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">danger bang</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-outbreak-one-of-netflixs-most-popular-movies-2020-3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Outbreak</a> and <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/04/business/media/coronavirus-contagion-movie.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Contagion</a> are the top movies on Netflix right now.</li><li>You can order The Honey Don't List with signed bookplates from <a href="https://www.booksamillion.com/?id=7862802506551" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Books a Million</a>, not sure directly how to order from the one in Hunstville, AL, but try calling the store. Check out <a href="https://libro.fm/audiobooks/9781797100081-the-honey-don-t-list" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the audiobook of the Honey Don't List</a>, starring <a href="https://youtu.be/cUGpJVsBoUQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Patti Murin</a> and <a href="https://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/Jon-Root/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jon Root</a>.</li><li>While you're whiling away the hours in self-isolation, don't forget to check out <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6QWZy7vo4Dw9eS733PJj1U" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">our Spotify playlist</a>, which includes the full versions of every song we've ever used on Fated Mates -- or head over and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/music-referenced-in-the-fated-mates-podcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">watch all the music videos</a> of all those songs on our site!</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/4/7/s0231-forced-proximity-interstitial-with-christina-lauren </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, we’ve got two tremendous guests and we’re coming to you from four different time zones! Coronavirus silver lining — time has literally no meaning any longer. We’re talking to the brilliant duo Christina Lauren about their new book, The Honey Don’t List, and forced proximity romances — which is a crowd favorite…or at least <em>was</em> a crowd favorite until we were all forced into forced proximity!</p><p>Next week, we’re reading Victoria Dahl’s <em>Taking the Heat</em>. We know it’s tough to get it in print, but find it in e at your local library or at: <a href="https://amzn.to/2UwHYJ5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/taking-the-heat-victoria-dahl/1120976718" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/taking-the-heat/id1247948921?mt=11&amp;app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/taking-the-heat-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or in print, mailed from <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9780373779703" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a> (which is probably still shipping!)</p><p>We hope you’re staying safe!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome <a href="http://christinalaurenbooks.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Christina Lauren</a>! Check out their new release, a forced proximity romance called <a href="https://amzn.to/2JJyjJd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Honey Don't List</a>. Perhpas, like Sarah, you need to understand the <a href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/everybody-marries-the-wrong-person/201012/disgruntled-partners-defend-honey-do-lists" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"honey do"</a> list.</li><li>If you're worried about <a href="https://lifehacker.com/behind-the-app-the-story-of-zombies-run-1632445358" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">zombies running</a>, there's <a href="https://zombiesrungame.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">an app for that</a>.</li><li>Christina and Lauren said their cover reminds them of <a href="https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/lizzo-2019-mtv-video-music-awards-876645/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lizzo's big inflatable butt at the 2019 AMAs</a>.</li><li>Jen wrote <a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/news-and-features/articles/one-bed-romance-close-quarters/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a Kirkus column about why "only one bed"</a> is one of the most delightful subsets of the "forced proximity" trope.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/_ImAnAdult" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amanda Diehl</a> <a href="https://bookpage.com/search?contributor_id=877" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">reviews for BookPage</a> and also for Smart Bitches Trashy Books. <a href="https://bookpage.com/interviews/24947-christina-lauren-romance#.XoylMVNKgWo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Here is her inteview with Christina Lauren</a>.</li><li>Sarah mentioned the great <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2003/08/15/nyregion/blackout-2003-overview-power-surge-blacks-northeast-hitting-cities-8-states.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">New York City Blackout of 2003</a>, but it turns out <a href="https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/2003-blackout-five-years-later/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a field in Ohio caused the problem</a>.</li><li>"He is <a href="https://youtu.be/YejxyaFyUHc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">poison</a> to everyone but her" is of course a reference back to Sarah's favorite IAD book, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/27/16-sweet-ruin" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sweet Ruin</a>.</li><li>All about <a href="https://www.colonialwilliamsburg.org/locations/wheelwright/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wheelwrights</a>.</li><li>Wondering what it's really like <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/daily-life-in-antarctic-research-stations-2018-11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">for scientists on Antarctica</a> is no place you'd want to be trapped, and certainly no place for a <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1228790473969557504" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">danger bang</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-outbreak-one-of-netflixs-most-popular-movies-2020-3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Outbreak</a> and <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/04/business/media/coronavirus-contagion-movie.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Contagion</a> are the top movies on Netflix right now.</li><li>You can order The Honey Don't List with signed bookplates from <a href="https://www.booksamillion.com/?id=7862802506551" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Books a Million</a>, not sure directly how to order from the one in Hunstville, AL, but try calling the store. Check out <a href="https://libro.fm/audiobooks/9781797100081-the-honey-don-t-list" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the audiobook of the Honey Don't List</a>, starring <a href="https://youtu.be/cUGpJVsBoUQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Patti Murin</a> and <a href="https://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/Jon-Root/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jon Root</a>.</li><li>While you're whiling away the hours in self-isolation, don't forget to check out <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6QWZy7vo4Dw9eS733PJj1U" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">our Spotify playlist</a>, which includes the full versions of every song we've ever used on Fated Mates -- or head over and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/music-referenced-in-the-fated-mates-podcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">watch all the music videos</a> of all those songs on our site!</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/4/7/s0231-forced-proximity-interstitial-with-christina-lauren </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/4/7/s0231-forced-proximity-interstitial-with-christina-lauren]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5e8c956e4b8bbe5d6350889c</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2020 15:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/545c0f90-6121-4f6b-93f3-f0f1207354e4/fated-mates-christina-lauren-final-mastered.mp3" length="52870812" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>50:52</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>31</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>31</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:summary>This week, we’ve got two tremendous guests and we’re coming to you from four different time zones! Coronavirus silver lining — time has literally no meaning any longer. We’re talking to the brilliant duo Christina Lauren about their new book, The Honey Don’t List, and forced proximity romances — which is a crowd favorite…or at least was a crowd favorite until we were all forced into forced proximity!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-545c0f90-6121-4f6b-93f3-f0f1207354e4.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S02.30: Nobody&apos;s Baby But Mine by Susan Elizabeth Phillips : Grandma has her Shotgun</title><itunes:title>Nobody&apos;s Baby But Mine by Susan Elizabeth Phillips: Grandma has her Shotgun</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We are feeling really proud of ourselves this week because Nobody’s Baby But Mine was the perfect isolation read for us both. The reread confirmed to both of us that this is, beat-for-beat, one of the best romcoms of all time. We’re talking problematic plots, the 90s, what we expect from jerk heroes and how Susan Elizabeth Phillips is better at flawed characters than anyone else in the game.</p><p>We love having you with us! — subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform and like/review the podcast, please!</p><p>In two weeks, we’re reading Victoria Dahl’s <em>Taking the Heat</em>. We know it’s tough to get it in print, but find it in e at your local library or at: <a href="https://amzn.to/2UwHYJ5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/taking-the-heat-victoria-dahl/1120976718" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/taking-the-heat/id1247948921?mt=11&amp;app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/taking-the-heat-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or in print, mailed from <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9780373779703" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a> (which is probably still shipping!)</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Americans are <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/28/style/chicken-eggs-coronavirus.html?smid=tw-nytimes&amp;smtyp=cur" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">stress buying chickens</a>. Yes, <a href="https://ww.marketplace.org/2020/03/30/breakfast-food-prices-up-americans-eat-at-home-during-covid19/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">eggs are more expensive</a>, but <a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1243897886175301632" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this is not a good idea</a>.</li><li>Speaking of chicks, now that Jen <a href="https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20160111/hyde-park/what-happens-chicks-at-museum-of-science-industry-eaten-at-zoo/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">knows what happens to the chicks</a> in <a href="https://www.msichicago.org/science-at-home/videos/the-hatchery/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the hatchery</a> at the Museum of Science and Industry, she's back on <a href="https://www.msichicago.org/explore/whats-here/exhibits/great-train-story/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Team Train Room</a>.</li><li>One day, we'll be able to visit the <a href="https://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/butterflies" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Butterfuly exhibit</a> at the Museum of Natural History again.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/nickheathsport/status/1243597952570048513" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nick Heath</a> and <a href="https://www.cbc.ca/radio/day6/covid-19-in-nyc-a-century-old-blood-therapy-returns-embrace-the-bidet-mariko-tamaki-on-wonder-woman-more-1.5510610/with-the-nhl-on-ice-this-commentator-is-doing-play-by-play-for-fans-pet-videos-1.5510626" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Conor McGahey</a> have figured out a way to keep those announcing skills sharp.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1242253055749431297" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen's interviewing YA authors on TikTok</a>.</li><li>When it comes to the SEP-Multiverse, we like <a href="https://twitter.com/racblog/status/1244422274876354562" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the whackadoodle one at the circus</a> (<a href="https://amzn.to/2UX1vSi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kiss an Angel</a>), the one with Bobby Tom (<a href="https://amzn.to/2xzXECD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heaven Texas</a>), the one with the lazy golfer (<a href="https://amzn.to/2QXliPZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lady Be Good</a>), and the one with Sugar Beth (<a href="https://amzn.to/2UX1v4K" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ain't She Sweet</a>).</li><li>What happened to the <a href="https://www.smith.edu/student-life/residence-life/houses/lamont-house" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lamont House</a> romance collection?</li><li>Charlotte Stein has <a href="https://twitter.com/Charlotte_Stein/status/1243261839800229888" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a suggestion</a> for authors of contemporary romance.</li><li>Last year, Sarah wrote about <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/books/technology-is-transforming-our-love-lives--and-our-romance-novels/2019/12/13/bc893c2e-1de1-11ea-b4c1-fd0d91b60d9e_story.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">technology in romance</a> for the Washington Post.</li><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/2/5/65-freewheeling-with-joanna-shupe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">We talked about Prisoner of My Desire with Joanna Shupe</a>, which is another book about a heroine who has done something very wrong.</li><li>Maybe you're looking for actual <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/14418.Secret_Baby_Trope" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">secret baby</a> books.</li><li>The one with bad sex is <a href="https://amzn.to/3dMfnHh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Call Me Irresistible</a>.</li><li>After 9/11, <a href="https://decider.com/2016/09/29/today-in-tv-history-saturday-night-live-9-11/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Saturday Night Live</a> and <a href="https://www.theonion.com/god-angrily-clarifies-dont-kill-rule-1819566178" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Onion</a> had to figure out how to be funny again.</li><li>Our next book is <a href="https://amzn.to/33ZgmzD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Taking the Heat</a> (aka Cunnilingus Gabe) by Victoria Dahl.</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are feeling really proud of ourselves this week because Nobody’s Baby But Mine was the perfect isolation read for us both. The reread confirmed to both of us that this is, beat-for-beat, one of the best romcoms of all time. We’re talking problematic plots, the 90s, what we expect from jerk heroes and how Susan Elizabeth Phillips is better at flawed characters than anyone else in the game.</p><p>We love having you with us! — subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform and like/review the podcast, please!</p><p>In two weeks, we’re reading Victoria Dahl’s <em>Taking the Heat</em>. We know it’s tough to get it in print, but find it in e at your local library or at: <a href="https://amzn.to/2UwHYJ5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/taking-the-heat-victoria-dahl/1120976718" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/taking-the-heat/id1247948921?mt=11&amp;app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/taking-the-heat-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or in print, mailed from <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9780373779703" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a> (which is probably still shipping!)</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Americans are <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/28/style/chicken-eggs-coronavirus.html?smid=tw-nytimes&amp;smtyp=cur" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">stress buying chickens</a>. Yes, <a href="https://ww.marketplace.org/2020/03/30/breakfast-food-prices-up-americans-eat-at-home-during-covid19/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">eggs are more expensive</a>, but <a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1243897886175301632" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this is not a good idea</a>.</li><li>Speaking of chicks, now that Jen <a href="https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20160111/hyde-park/what-happens-chicks-at-museum-of-science-industry-eaten-at-zoo/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">knows what happens to the chicks</a> in <a href="https://www.msichicago.org/science-at-home/videos/the-hatchery/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the hatchery</a> at the Museum of Science and Industry, she's back on <a href="https://www.msichicago.org/explore/whats-here/exhibits/great-train-story/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Team Train Room</a>.</li><li>One day, we'll be able to visit the <a href="https://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/butterflies" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Butterfuly exhibit</a> at the Museum of Natural History again.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/nickheathsport/status/1243597952570048513" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nick Heath</a> and <a href="https://www.cbc.ca/radio/day6/covid-19-in-nyc-a-century-old-blood-therapy-returns-embrace-the-bidet-mariko-tamaki-on-wonder-woman-more-1.5510610/with-the-nhl-on-ice-this-commentator-is-doing-play-by-play-for-fans-pet-videos-1.5510626" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Conor McGahey</a> have figured out a way to keep those announcing skills sharp.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1242253055749431297" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen's interviewing YA authors on TikTok</a>.</li><li>When it comes to the SEP-Multiverse, we like <a href="https://twitter.com/racblog/status/1244422274876354562" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the whackadoodle one at the circus</a> (<a href="https://amzn.to/2UX1vSi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kiss an Angel</a>), the one with Bobby Tom (<a href="https://amzn.to/2xzXECD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heaven Texas</a>), the one with the lazy golfer (<a href="https://amzn.to/2QXliPZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lady Be Good</a>), and the one with Sugar Beth (<a href="https://amzn.to/2UX1v4K" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ain't She Sweet</a>).</li><li>What happened to the <a href="https://www.smith.edu/student-life/residence-life/houses/lamont-house" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lamont House</a> romance collection?</li><li>Charlotte Stein has <a href="https://twitter.com/Charlotte_Stein/status/1243261839800229888" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a suggestion</a> for authors of contemporary romance.</li><li>Last year, Sarah wrote about <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/books/technology-is-transforming-our-love-lives--and-our-romance-novels/2019/12/13/bc893c2e-1de1-11ea-b4c1-fd0d91b60d9e_story.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">technology in romance</a> for the Washington Post.</li><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/2/5/65-freewheeling-with-joanna-shupe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">We talked about Prisoner of My Desire with Joanna Shupe</a>, which is another book about a heroine who has done something very wrong.</li><li>Maybe you're looking for actual <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/14418.Secret_Baby_Trope" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">secret baby</a> books.</li><li>The one with bad sex is <a href="https://amzn.to/3dMfnHh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Call Me Irresistible</a>.</li><li>After 9/11, <a href="https://decider.com/2016/09/29/today-in-tv-history-saturday-night-live-9-11/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Saturday Night Live</a> and <a href="https://www.theonion.com/god-angrily-clarifies-dont-kill-rule-1819566178" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Onion</a> had to figure out how to be funny again.</li><li>Our next book is <a href="https://amzn.to/33ZgmzD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Taking the Heat</a> (aka Cunnilingus Gabe) by Victoria Dahl.</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/3/30/s0230-nobodys-baby-but-mine-by-susan-elizabeth-phillips-]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5e81e3313ae6d4439bee37a0</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2020 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/219200f9-218d-4bcb-9acc-71458a7e5009/fated-mates-susan-elizabeth-phillips-final-master.mp3" length="72467701" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:10:48</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>30</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>30</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We are feeling really proud of ourselves this week because Nobody’s Baby But Mine was the perfect isolation read for us both. The reread confirmed to both of us that this is, beat-for-beat, one of the best romcoms of all time. We’re talking problematic plots, the 90s, what we expect from jerk heroes and how Susan Elizabeth Phillips is better at flawed characters than anyone else in the game.</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/63ae453a-beda-4d9a-8c89-739eb11db061/index.html" type="text/html"/><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-219200f9-218d-4bcb-9acc-71458a7e5009.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S02.29: Health Care Workers in Romance</title><itunes:title>Health Care Workers in Romance</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We are very pro health care workers these days — we love all of you…doctors, nurses, EMTs, home health aides…if you know how to work a stethoscope, we’re into you. This week, we’re taking about some of our favorite medical romances. Listen for Jen getting thoughtful, and Sarah getting wildly inappropriate. We’re all just doing our best.</p><p>We love having you with us! — subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform and like/review the podcast, please!</p><p>Next week, we’re reading Susan Elizabeth Phillips’s <em>Nobody’s Baby But Mine</em>, and we cannot WAIT. We know it’s tough to get it in print, but find it in e at your local library or at: <a href="https://amzn.to/2WiAESV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a> (free in Kindle Unlimited!), <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/nobodys-baby-but-mine-susan-elizabeth-phillips/1100615871?ean=9780061793219" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/nobodys-baby-but-mine/id360604617?mt=11&amp;app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/nobody-s-baby-but-mine" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or in print, mailed from <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9780380782345" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a> (which is probably still shipping!).</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>As we all shelter in place, romance twitter has been very entertaining. <a href="https://twitter.com/The_Julia_Kelly/status/1240306369355530248" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Julia Kelly posted a thread where she posed her pets as romance novel covers</a>, and everyone had fun with it. Sarah also loved this one about <a href="https://twitter.com/pete_schultz/status/1240472553136754688" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a dog who howls along with the Law and Order theme song</a>.</li><li>We forgot to tell you last week when we talked about Devil's Bride that Stephanie Laurens has a new book out, <a href="https://amzn.to/39jP4ou" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Inevitable Fall of Christopher Cynster</a>. We also have added information about <a href="https://twitter.com/blackbirdnflght/status/1240398527425130502" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">how to pronounce Honoria</a> and details about <a href="https://twitter.com/HeroJourdan/status/1242358738847227908" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">peach silk</a>.</li><li>Now is the time to get the BookBub <a href="https://www.bookbub.com/ebook-deals/contemporary-romance-ebooks" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">daily romance email</a>. Here's <a href="https://www.bookbub.com/authors/sarah-maclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah's Bookbub page</a>.</li><li>The nurse and doctor books were the backbone of early Mills and Boon romances, and the forerunner of the modern <a href="https://www.harlequin.com/shop/brand/harlequin-medical-romance.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Harlequin Medical Romance</a>; whereas Americans often find <a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2018/01/24/tv-medical-dramas-trend-life-death/1058523001/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">big, soapy hospital dramas on TV</a>.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budleigh_Salterton" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Budleigh Salterton</a> looks like a very nice place to hang out unless you are a bored American 12 year old.</li><li>The roots of American and British romance are different, as proven by <a href="https://lithub.com/the-unexpectedly-subversive-world-of-romance-novels/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this absolutely WRONG LitHub romance essay</a>. (They're <a href="https://lithub.com/thank-god-for-the-sex-i-found-in-my-mothers-romance-novels/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wrong about romance</a> a lot.)</li><li>Sarah has talked about <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radclyffe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Radclyffe</a> and the origin of Bold Strokes Books, but many of her romances are about doctors or set in hospitals.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1175892103727128580" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen doesn't really care too much about job details</a>. Sorry not sorry.</li><li>No one likes a <a href="https://www.history.com/news/a-brief-history-of-bloodletting" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bloodletter</a>. We want our historical doctors to be foreward thinking. Or as Eloisa James does in <a href="https://amzn.to/2vLNm1w" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">When Beauty Tamed the Beast</a>, use a modern <a href="https://www.elle.com/culture/movies-tv/g20265405/house-tv-show-facts-trivia/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">TV character like House</a> as model for a hero.</li><li>In Tempest, Jen spoke out inequities in acess to medical care for black patients, and <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/25/upshot/doctors-and-racial-bias-still-a-long-way-to-go.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">that's still true today.</a></li><li>If you're looking to see some "don't fuck your doctor" romances that definitely fall somewhere on <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1142410957467148289" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Simone Scale</a>. <a href="https://amzn.to/2wCjDsd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wrong by Jana Aston</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/33I5GFm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Medicine Man by Saffron Kent</a>.</li><li>Jurgen Klopp wants you to <a href="https://twitter.com/brfootball/status/1237830182674878471" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">put your hands away</a>, and this <a href="https://twitter.com/lauralexx/status/1238601779773952005" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">amazing thread by comedian Laura Lexx</a> and support all the Liverpool fans out there (<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1242266684368412673" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">especially Jen's brother</a>).</li><li>Jen's cool TikTok project is up and running, she's <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1242253055749431297" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">interviewing YA authors</a> and hoping to get kids to read while they are sheltering in place.</li><li>You can order <a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/shop" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">buttons from Kelly</a> and <a href="https://jordandene.com/collections/romance-sarah-maclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">t-shirts from Jordandene</a>.</li><li>Next time, we'll be reading <a href="https://amzn.to/3dtKxmU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nobody's Baby But Mine</a> by Susan Elizabeth Phillips.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/3/24/s0229-health-care-workers-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are very pro health care workers these days — we love all of you…doctors, nurses, EMTs, home health aides…if you know how to work a stethoscope, we’re into you. This week, we’re taking about some of our favorite medical romances. Listen for Jen getting thoughtful, and Sarah getting wildly inappropriate. We’re all just doing our best.</p><p>We love having you with us! — subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform and like/review the podcast, please!</p><p>Next week, we’re reading Susan Elizabeth Phillips’s <em>Nobody’s Baby But Mine</em>, and we cannot WAIT. We know it’s tough to get it in print, but find it in e at your local library or at: <a href="https://amzn.to/2WiAESV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a> (free in Kindle Unlimited!), <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/nobodys-baby-but-mine-susan-elizabeth-phillips/1100615871?ean=9780061793219" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/nobodys-baby-but-mine/id360604617?mt=11&amp;app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/nobody-s-baby-but-mine" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or in print, mailed from <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9780380782345" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a> (which is probably still shipping!).</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>As we all shelter in place, romance twitter has been very entertaining. <a href="https://twitter.com/The_Julia_Kelly/status/1240306369355530248" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Julia Kelly posted a thread where she posed her pets as romance novel covers</a>, and everyone had fun with it. Sarah also loved this one about <a href="https://twitter.com/pete_schultz/status/1240472553136754688" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a dog who howls along with the Law and Order theme song</a>.</li><li>We forgot to tell you last week when we talked about Devil's Bride that Stephanie Laurens has a new book out, <a href="https://amzn.to/39jP4ou" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Inevitable Fall of Christopher Cynster</a>. We also have added information about <a href="https://twitter.com/blackbirdnflght/status/1240398527425130502" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">how to pronounce Honoria</a> and details about <a href="https://twitter.com/HeroJourdan/status/1242358738847227908" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">peach silk</a>.</li><li>Now is the time to get the BookBub <a href="https://www.bookbub.com/ebook-deals/contemporary-romance-ebooks" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">daily romance email</a>. Here's <a href="https://www.bookbub.com/authors/sarah-maclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah's Bookbub page</a>.</li><li>The nurse and doctor books were the backbone of early Mills and Boon romances, and the forerunner of the modern <a href="https://www.harlequin.com/shop/brand/harlequin-medical-romance.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Harlequin Medical Romance</a>; whereas Americans often find <a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2018/01/24/tv-medical-dramas-trend-life-death/1058523001/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">big, soapy hospital dramas on TV</a>.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budleigh_Salterton" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Budleigh Salterton</a> looks like a very nice place to hang out unless you are a bored American 12 year old.</li><li>The roots of American and British romance are different, as proven by <a href="https://lithub.com/the-unexpectedly-subversive-world-of-romance-novels/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this absolutely WRONG LitHub romance essay</a>. (They're <a href="https://lithub.com/thank-god-for-the-sex-i-found-in-my-mothers-romance-novels/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wrong about romance</a> a lot.)</li><li>Sarah has talked about <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radclyffe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Radclyffe</a> and the origin of Bold Strokes Books, but many of her romances are about doctors or set in hospitals.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1175892103727128580" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen doesn't really care too much about job details</a>. Sorry not sorry.</li><li>No one likes a <a href="https://www.history.com/news/a-brief-history-of-bloodletting" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bloodletter</a>. We want our historical doctors to be foreward thinking. Or as Eloisa James does in <a href="https://amzn.to/2vLNm1w" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">When Beauty Tamed the Beast</a>, use a modern <a href="https://www.elle.com/culture/movies-tv/g20265405/house-tv-show-facts-trivia/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">TV character like House</a> as model for a hero.</li><li>In Tempest, Jen spoke out inequities in acess to medical care for black patients, and <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/25/upshot/doctors-and-racial-bias-still-a-long-way-to-go.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">that's still true today.</a></li><li>If you're looking to see some "don't fuck your doctor" romances that definitely fall somewhere on <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1142410957467148289" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Simone Scale</a>. <a href="https://amzn.to/2wCjDsd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wrong by Jana Aston</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/33I5GFm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Medicine Man by Saffron Kent</a>.</li><li>Jurgen Klopp wants you to <a href="https://twitter.com/brfootball/status/1237830182674878471" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">put your hands away</a>, and this <a href="https://twitter.com/lauralexx/status/1238601779773952005" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">amazing thread by comedian Laura Lexx</a> and support all the Liverpool fans out there (<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1242266684368412673" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">especially Jen's brother</a>).</li><li>Jen's cool TikTok project is up and running, she's <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1242253055749431297" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">interviewing YA authors</a> and hoping to get kids to read while they are sheltering in place.</li><li>You can order <a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/shop" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">buttons from Kelly</a> and <a href="https://jordandene.com/collections/romance-sarah-maclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">t-shirts from Jordandene</a>.</li><li>Next time, we'll be reading <a href="https://amzn.to/3dtKxmU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nobody's Baby But Mine</a> by Susan Elizabeth Phillips.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/3/24/s0229-health-care-workers-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/3/24/s0229-health-care-workers-interstitial]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5e7a7beb61495f27e26d1e3d</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2020 16:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/b908ee8a-fa52-4dd0-9a66-3a123515111e/fated-mates-doctors-nurses-final-mastered.mp3" length="55987720" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>53:02</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>29</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>29</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We are very pro health care workers these days — we love all of you…doctors, nurses, EMTs, home health aides…if you know how to work a stethoscope, we’re into you. This week, we’re taking about some of our favorite medical romances. Listen for Jen getting thoughtful, and Sarah getting wildly inappropriate. We’re all just doing our best.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-b908ee8a-fa52-4dd0-9a66-3a123515111e.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S02.28: “It’s Sinister, right?! - Devil&apos;s Bride by Stephanie Laurens</title><itunes:title>“It’s Sinister, right?! - Devil&apos;s Bride by Stephanie Laurens</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This week we’re reading a favorite of both Sarah &amp; Jen — Stephanie Laurens’s Devil’s Bride! We’re so excited to talk about ridiculous (we mean amazing) nicknames, about 30 page sex scenes, and about how we crushed our SATs thanks to romances like this one! We’re also hoping you are keeping a safe distance from others and washing your hands lots!</p><p>We love having you with us! — subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform and like/review the podcast, please!</p><p>Next week, we’re reading Susan Elizabeth Phillips’s Nobody’s Baby But Mine, and we cannot WAIT. We know it’s tough to get it in print, but find it in e at your local library or at: <a href="https://amzn.to/2WiAESV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a> (free in Kindle Unlimited!), <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/nobodys-baby-but-mine-susan-elizabeth-phillips/1100615871?ean=9780061793219" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/nobodys-baby-but-mine/id360604617?mt=11&amp;app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/nobody-s-baby-but-mine" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9780380782345" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>.</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Please <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/?itid=ap_harrystevens" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">stay inside and stay safe</a> if you can, and remember not to believe <a href="https://twitter.com/MTA/status/1238239522774794241" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">screenshots from your cousins</a>.</li><li>Here are some <a href="https://twitter.com/DataGeekB/status/1239528531723341825" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">interesting and well-sourced tweets</a> about coronavirus from a Fos (Friend of Sarah).</li><li>Want to know the other books Jen ordered back in 2001? It was <a href="https://amzn.to/2x3CVa0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Grand Passion by Jane Ann Krennz</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/391TaS2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Prince of Swords Anne Stuart</a>, and <a href="https://amzn.to/3d7Tuls" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Innocence by Suzanne Forester</a>. She still swears she didn't read any of them.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3b5zheu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Captain Jack's Woman</a> was Stephanie Laurens' debut novel, not Devil's Bride. But it's <a href="https://www.stephanielaurens.com/the-cynster-family-tree/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Bar Cynster</a> that made her such a popular writer.</li><li>Sometimes (ok, a lot) Jen shit-posts on twitter about <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1228877609070727169" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">conflict</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1162171847179427840" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">writing</a>. Sarah can't always have eyes on her, sorry.</li><li>Jen thinks it was <a href="https://amzn.to/38XL7pv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amanda Quick</a> that brought back old-fashioned names, but the only truly great <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/jul/06/what-a-star-he-would-be-today-the-extraordinary-musical-legacy-of-sylvester" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sylvester</a>is from disco.</li><li>"<a href="https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/eyes-out-on-stalks" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Eyes on stalks</a>" is a real phrase, and so is <a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rapacious" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">rapaciously</a>. On the other hand, here's a bunch of <a href="https://bookriot.com/2014/07/09/euphemisms-body-parts-romance-novels-ranking/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sex scene euphamisms.</a></li><li>The Cynsters were at <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Waterloo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Waterloo</a>, so we're not sure why busting through <a href="https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/teens/sex/virginity" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the hymen</a> is such work for them.</li><li>All about <a href="https://www.britannica.com/art/chorus-theatre" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Greek chorus</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.stephanielaurens.com/books/lady-osbaldestone-s-christmas-chronicles/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lady Osbaldestone</a> does have her own books, as do <a href="https://www.stephanielaurens.com/books/devil-s-brood-trilogy/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Devil and Honoria's kids</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.indiewire.com/2019/07/veronica-mars-season-4-ending-spoilers-hulu-1202159561/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Veronica Mars</a> illustrates the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_service" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fan service</a> problem.</li><li>Jen is obsessed with the idea of "<a href="https://pitchfork.com/features/poptimist/7811-poptimist-29/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the imperial period</a>" for musicians--and other kids of artists.</li><li>Next time, we'll be reading <a href="https://amzn.to/3d8f0qw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nobody's Baby But Mine</a> by Susan Elizabeth Phillips.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/3/17/s0228-devils-bride-by-stephanie-laurens </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week we’re reading a favorite of both Sarah &amp; Jen — Stephanie Laurens’s Devil’s Bride! We’re so excited to talk about ridiculous (we mean amazing) nicknames, about 30 page sex scenes, and about how we crushed our SATs thanks to romances like this one! We’re also hoping you are keeping a safe distance from others and washing your hands lots!</p><p>We love having you with us! — subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform and like/review the podcast, please!</p><p>Next week, we’re reading Susan Elizabeth Phillips’s Nobody’s Baby But Mine, and we cannot WAIT. We know it’s tough to get it in print, but find it in e at your local library or at: <a href="https://amzn.to/2WiAESV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a> (free in Kindle Unlimited!), <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/nobodys-baby-but-mine-susan-elizabeth-phillips/1100615871?ean=9780061793219" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/nobodys-baby-but-mine/id360604617?mt=11&amp;app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/nobody-s-baby-but-mine" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9780380782345" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>.</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Please <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/?itid=ap_harrystevens" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">stay inside and stay safe</a> if you can, and remember not to believe <a href="https://twitter.com/MTA/status/1238239522774794241" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">screenshots from your cousins</a>.</li><li>Here are some <a href="https://twitter.com/DataGeekB/status/1239528531723341825" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">interesting and well-sourced tweets</a> about coronavirus from a Fos (Friend of Sarah).</li><li>Want to know the other books Jen ordered back in 2001? It was <a href="https://amzn.to/2x3CVa0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Grand Passion by Jane Ann Krennz</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/391TaS2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Prince of Swords Anne Stuart</a>, and <a href="https://amzn.to/3d7Tuls" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Innocence by Suzanne Forester</a>. She still swears she didn't read any of them.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3b5zheu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Captain Jack's Woman</a> was Stephanie Laurens' debut novel, not Devil's Bride. But it's <a href="https://www.stephanielaurens.com/the-cynster-family-tree/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Bar Cynster</a> that made her such a popular writer.</li><li>Sometimes (ok, a lot) Jen shit-posts on twitter about <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1228877609070727169" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">conflict</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1162171847179427840" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">writing</a>. Sarah can't always have eyes on her, sorry.</li><li>Jen thinks it was <a href="https://amzn.to/38XL7pv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amanda Quick</a> that brought back old-fashioned names, but the only truly great <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/jul/06/what-a-star-he-would-be-today-the-extraordinary-musical-legacy-of-sylvester" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sylvester</a>is from disco.</li><li>"<a href="https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/eyes-out-on-stalks" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Eyes on stalks</a>" is a real phrase, and so is <a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rapacious" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">rapaciously</a>. On the other hand, here's a bunch of <a href="https://bookriot.com/2014/07/09/euphemisms-body-parts-romance-novels-ranking/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sex scene euphamisms.</a></li><li>The Cynsters were at <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Waterloo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Waterloo</a>, so we're not sure why busting through <a href="https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/teens/sex/virginity" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the hymen</a> is such work for them.</li><li>All about <a href="https://www.britannica.com/art/chorus-theatre" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Greek chorus</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.stephanielaurens.com/books/lady-osbaldestone-s-christmas-chronicles/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lady Osbaldestone</a> does have her own books, as do <a href="https://www.stephanielaurens.com/books/devil-s-brood-trilogy/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Devil and Honoria's kids</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.indiewire.com/2019/07/veronica-mars-season-4-ending-spoilers-hulu-1202159561/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Veronica Mars</a> illustrates the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_service" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fan service</a> problem.</li><li>Jen is obsessed with the idea of "<a href="https://pitchfork.com/features/poptimist/7811-poptimist-29/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the imperial period</a>" for musicians--and other kids of artists.</li><li>Next time, we'll be reading <a href="https://amzn.to/3d8f0qw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nobody's Baby But Mine</a> by Susan Elizabeth Phillips.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/3/17/s0228-devils-bride-by-stephanie-laurens </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/3/17/s0228-devils-bride-by-stephanie-laurens]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5e7126afbdb2314cd27e64cd</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2020 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/c1c2cc84-720b-492c-a148-81fca44fa8c3/devils-bride-final-mastered-revb.mp3" length="73575138" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:16:14</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>28</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>28</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:summary>This week we’re reading a favorite of both Sarah &amp; Jen — Stephanie Laurens’s Devil’s Bride! We’re so excited to talk about ridiculous (we mean amazing) nicknames, about 30 page sex scenes, and about how we crushed our SATs thanks to romances like this one! We’re also hoping you are keeping a safe distance from others and washing your hands lots!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-c1c2cc84-720b-492c-a148-81fca44fa8c3.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S02.27: Sickbed Scenes in Romance with Kate Clayborn</title><itunes:title>Sickbed Scenes in Romance with Kate Clayborn</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Sarah has the flu! She wants you to know it’s absolutely terrible and you should all get your flu shots even though she got one and still got the flu but vaccines are good for you. Also, we all want you washing your hands and air high-fiving your friends because it’s wild out there. But you are IN FOR A TREAT this week — as our fave Kate Clayborn is pinch hitting for Sarah, and we’re talking romance sickbed scenes this week! If we have to be hyper focused on sickness, shouldn’t there be yearning and vigiling and a veiled death threat against a doctor (don’t threaten doctors)?</p><p>We love having you with us! — subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform and like/review the podcast, please!</p><p>Next week, we’re reading Stephanie Laurens's Devil's Bride, starring Devil Cynster, who also happens to be the only romance hero Sarah's husband can name (yes, even now). Find it at: <a href="https://amzn.to/38Zqn1v" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/devils-bride-stephanie-laurens/1103371022" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/devils-bride/id363686327?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/ww/en/ebook/devil-s-bride" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/363499.Devil_s_Bride" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>.</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Welcome <a href="https://www.kateclayborn.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kate Clayborn</a>! She joined Jen this week since Sarah was down and out with the flu.</li><li>Kate loves <a href="https://twitter.com/kateclayborn/status/958079383679459330" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a sick bed scene</a>. When we talk about <a href="https://www.verywellhealth.com/chronic-definition-3157059" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">acute vs chronic illness</a>, the sick bed scene is acute rather than chronic. And, as Jen points out, these are almost always about physical rather than mental illness.</li><li>Some of Jen's favorite sickbed scenes are in <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/12/9/s0214-indigo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Indigo by Beverly Jenkins</a> and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/1/20/s0220-managed-by-kristen-callihan" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Managed by Kristen Callihan</a> -- but we've talked about those books already! Same thing with <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/17/15-the-master" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Master by Kresley Cole.</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/kateclayborn/status/1177193605951344643" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kate is a lot more interested in work of all kinds than Jen</a>. It's okay. We're still friends. We even made a hashtag, <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1236322954969075713" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Claykop</a>, so we can find all our discussions.</li><li>We recorded this on Sunday March 8th, so who knows what <a href="https://www.vox.com/2020/3/5/21162138/vox-guide-to-covid-19-coronavirus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the coronavirus situation</a> will be by the time you listen to this.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/authorandiej" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Andie Christopher</a> was the first to bring the <a href="https://www.thecut.com/2019/04/what-is-the-im-baby-meme.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">I'm Baby meme</a> to our attention when she joined us for <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/10/13/s026-cinnamon-roll-romance-heroes-interstitial-with-andie-christopher" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the cinnamon roll episode.</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1235906979677253633" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/kateclayborn/status/1235901440146710530" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kate</a> both suffer from insomnia. <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1237335320921886721" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah sleeps like a rock.</a></li><li>Jen was procrastinating about her report cards--but <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1237416148267925504" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">they're all done now</a>, it's fine.</li><li>The bedside vigil is kissing cousin to Jen's <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1237547298227273728" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">cold storage fetish</a>, and <a href="https://twitter.com/kateclayborn/status/1159425526248943618" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the way Kate loves it when a hero suffers</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.webmd.com/women/endometriosis/default.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Endomitriosis</a> is no joke.</li><li><a href="https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/man-flu-really-thing-2018010413033" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The man flu phenomenon</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.vox.com/2020/3/9/21162031/wash-your-hands-coronavirus-memes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wash your hands! Don't touch your face!</a></li><li>We'll be back next week with <a href="https://amzn.to/2Q2Fqjk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Devil's Bride</a> by Stephanie Laurens.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/3/9/s0227-sickbed-romance-interstitial-with-kate-clayborn </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah has the flu! She wants you to know it’s absolutely terrible and you should all get your flu shots even though she got one and still got the flu but vaccines are good for you. Also, we all want you washing your hands and air high-fiving your friends because it’s wild out there. But you are IN FOR A TREAT this week — as our fave Kate Clayborn is pinch hitting for Sarah, and we’re talking romance sickbed scenes this week! If we have to be hyper focused on sickness, shouldn’t there be yearning and vigiling and a veiled death threat against a doctor (don’t threaten doctors)?</p><p>We love having you with us! — subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform and like/review the podcast, please!</p><p>Next week, we’re reading Stephanie Laurens's Devil's Bride, starring Devil Cynster, who also happens to be the only romance hero Sarah's husband can name (yes, even now). Find it at: <a href="https://amzn.to/38Zqn1v" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/devils-bride-stephanie-laurens/1103371022" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/devils-bride/id363686327?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/ww/en/ebook/devil-s-bride" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/363499.Devil_s_Bride" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>.</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Welcome <a href="https://www.kateclayborn.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kate Clayborn</a>! She joined Jen this week since Sarah was down and out with the flu.</li><li>Kate loves <a href="https://twitter.com/kateclayborn/status/958079383679459330" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a sick bed scene</a>. When we talk about <a href="https://www.verywellhealth.com/chronic-definition-3157059" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">acute vs chronic illness</a>, the sick bed scene is acute rather than chronic. And, as Jen points out, these are almost always about physical rather than mental illness.</li><li>Some of Jen's favorite sickbed scenes are in <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/12/9/s0214-indigo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Indigo by Beverly Jenkins</a> and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/1/20/s0220-managed-by-kristen-callihan" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Managed by Kristen Callihan</a> -- but we've talked about those books already! Same thing with <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/17/15-the-master" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Master by Kresley Cole.</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/kateclayborn/status/1177193605951344643" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kate is a lot more interested in work of all kinds than Jen</a>. It's okay. We're still friends. We even made a hashtag, <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1236322954969075713" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Claykop</a>, so we can find all our discussions.</li><li>We recorded this on Sunday March 8th, so who knows what <a href="https://www.vox.com/2020/3/5/21162138/vox-guide-to-covid-19-coronavirus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the coronavirus situation</a> will be by the time you listen to this.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/authorandiej" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Andie Christopher</a> was the first to bring the <a href="https://www.thecut.com/2019/04/what-is-the-im-baby-meme.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">I'm Baby meme</a> to our attention when she joined us for <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/10/13/s026-cinnamon-roll-romance-heroes-interstitial-with-andie-christopher" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the cinnamon roll episode.</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1235906979677253633" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/kateclayborn/status/1235901440146710530" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kate</a> both suffer from insomnia. <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1237335320921886721" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah sleeps like a rock.</a></li><li>Jen was procrastinating about her report cards--but <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1237416148267925504" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">they're all done now</a>, it's fine.</li><li>The bedside vigil is kissing cousin to Jen's <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1237547298227273728" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">cold storage fetish</a>, and <a href="https://twitter.com/kateclayborn/status/1159425526248943618" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the way Kate loves it when a hero suffers</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.webmd.com/women/endometriosis/default.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Endomitriosis</a> is no joke.</li><li><a href="https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/man-flu-really-thing-2018010413033" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The man flu phenomenon</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.vox.com/2020/3/9/21162031/wash-your-hands-coronavirus-memes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wash your hands! Don't touch your face!</a></li><li>We'll be back next week with <a href="https://amzn.to/2Q2Fqjk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Devil's Bride</a> by Stephanie Laurens.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/3/9/s0227-sickbed-romance-interstitial-with-kate-clayborn </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/3/9/s0227-sickbed-romance-interstitial-with-kate-clayborn]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5e66efc956f0345d51b318f8</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2020 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/cfbb853b-6877-4da3-b93e-3947fa3ffdc7/fated-mates-sickbed-final-mastered.mp3" length="33510162" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>31:55</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>27</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>27</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Sarah has the flu! She wants you to know it’s absolutely terrible and you should all get your flu shots even though she got one and still got the flu but vaccines are good for you. Also, we all want you washing your hands and air high-fiving your friends because it’s wild out there. But you are IN FOR A TREAT this week — as our fave Kate Clayborn is pinch hitting for Sarah, and we’re talking romance sickbed scenes this week! If we have to be hyper focused on sickness, shouldn’t there be yearning and vigiling and a veiled death threat against a doctor (don’t threaten doctors)?</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-cfbb853b-6877-4da3-b93e-3947fa3ffdc7.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S02.26: Women&apos;s Friendship in Romance</title><itunes:title>Women&apos;s Friendship in Romance Interstitial</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We’re talking about women’s friendship in romance this week — how it works, why it’s important, and why we want all our romance heroines to have a squad.</p><p>We love having you with us! — subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform and like/review the podcast, please!</p><p>Next week, we’re reading Stephanie Laurens's Devil's Bride, starring Devil Cynster, who also happens to be the only romance hero Sarah's husband can name (yes, even now). Find it at: <a href="https://amzn.to/38Zqn1v" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/devils-bride-stephanie-laurens/1103371022" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/devils-bride/id363686327?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/ww/en/ebook/devil-s-bride" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/363499.Devil_s_Bride" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>We know we shouldn't make the gallows humor jokes about <a href="https://www.who.int/health-topics/coronavirus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">coronavirus</a>, but we did. We hope there won't be a pandemic, but if there is, <a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1233417045053759488" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">get your TBRs ready</a>. Jen's excited it won't have anything to do with <a href="https://twitter.com/JenRitas" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">RITA books</a>.</li><li>Have you preordered <a href="https://amzn.to/2IeF2di" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Daring and the Duke</a> yet?</li><li><a href="https://tfln.co/women-explain-call-partner-daddy-sex/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Daddy</a> is kind of sexy, but <a href="https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/the-radical-crusade-of-mike-pence-192733/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mike Pence</a> <a href="https://www.politifact.com/article/2018/mar/27/does-mike-pence-call-his-wife-mother/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">really does call his wife mother</a>, and that's never gonna be sexy.</li><li>We love Henry Cavill in season 1 of The Witcher. <a href="https://youtu.be/ComJUMTmNeo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Just watch this video of them kissing</a>. Jen stopped watching when they broke up in episode 7, and <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1229204824056573953" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Netflix really wants her to finish</a>.</li><li>The <a href="https://twitter.com/MaryAnnHarlan/status/1230542891434430464" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">idea for this week's episode came from listener Mary Ann Harlan</a> who wondered, "Do you have an episode on how female friendships in romance disrupt the patriarchy? Or even just how female friendships work in a good way in romance?" I mean, probably just listen to season 1 where we talked about the witches and valkyries.</li><li>Jen wrote about <a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/news-and-features/articles/happy-galentines-day-romance-readers/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">women's friendship in romance</a> for Galentine's Day. So if you're looking for more recommendations, check it out.</li><li>Some of the early proto-women friendships in historicals are <a href="https://amzn.to/2x5T7r7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lisa Kleypas's Wallflowers</a>and <a href="https://amzn.to/2wpAlL1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Penelope</a> in the Bridgerton series.</li><li><a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2015/10/how-friendships-change-over-time-in-adulthood/411466/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adult friendships are important</a> even if you don't have <a href="https://www.scarymommy.com/why-dont-adults-have-best-friends/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a best friend</a>.</li><li>Deficit modeling is a kind of thinking that assumes people can't move forward due to deficits or shortcomings. <a href="https://www.edutopia.org/blog/deficit-model-is-harming-students-janice-lombardi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">It's a phrase used in education that blames students and their families for lack of school readiness</a>; <a href="https://bbaenglish.wordpress.com/2016/01/14/language-and-gender-the-deficit-model/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">for women, it's used when discussing the way they assert themselves.</a></li><li>It would be really weird <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/27/opinion/sunday/lady-gaga-boyfriend.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">if your ex started dating Lady Gaga</a>.</li><li>It can be hard to be friends when the <a href="https://womenwhomoney.com/maintain-friendships-when-financial-inequalities-exist/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">other person has more money than you</a>.</li><li>In abusive relationships, <a href="https://www.breakthecycle.org/blog/know-signs-spotlight-isolation-friends-and-family" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the abuser often separates and isolates the victim from their friends and family</a> in order to control them.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Outsiders_(novel)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Outsiders</a> by SE Hinton is a really beloved book. One day, Jen's going to write a think piece about how it's all about American identity.</li><li>Every woman loves the song <a href="https://youtu.be/gYkACVDFmeg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"I Will Survive."</a> We don't make the rules.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/theLindashow" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Linda</a> would definitely have your back, so follow her on Twitter if you're not already.</li><li>Looking for new buttons from Kelly? Jen loves <a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/product-page/danger-bang" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Danger Bang!</a> while Sarah is <a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/product-page/live-every-week-like-it-s-rune-week" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Living Every Week like it's Rune Week</a>. <a href="https://jordandene.com/collections/romance-sarah-maclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The full set of t-shirts and totes is available now from Jordandene</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.cdc.gov/handwashing/when-how-handwashing.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wash your hands! Stop touching your face!</a></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/32LycW6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Devil's Bride</a> by Stephanie Laurens is next week.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/3/3/s0226-womens-friendship-in-romance-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We’re talking about women’s friendship in romance this week — how it works, why it’s important, and why we want all our romance heroines to have a squad.</p><p>We love having you with us! — subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform and like/review the podcast, please!</p><p>Next week, we’re reading Stephanie Laurens's Devil's Bride, starring Devil Cynster, who also happens to be the only romance hero Sarah's husband can name (yes, even now). Find it at: <a href="https://amzn.to/38Zqn1v" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/devils-bride-stephanie-laurens/1103371022" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/devils-bride/id363686327?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/ww/en/ebook/devil-s-bride" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/363499.Devil_s_Bride" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>We know we shouldn't make the gallows humor jokes about <a href="https://www.who.int/health-topics/coronavirus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">coronavirus</a>, but we did. We hope there won't be a pandemic, but if there is, <a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1233417045053759488" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">get your TBRs ready</a>. Jen's excited it won't have anything to do with <a href="https://twitter.com/JenRitas" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">RITA books</a>.</li><li>Have you preordered <a href="https://amzn.to/2IeF2di" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Daring and the Duke</a> yet?</li><li><a href="https://tfln.co/women-explain-call-partner-daddy-sex/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Daddy</a> is kind of sexy, but <a href="https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/the-radical-crusade-of-mike-pence-192733/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mike Pence</a> <a href="https://www.politifact.com/article/2018/mar/27/does-mike-pence-call-his-wife-mother/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">really does call his wife mother</a>, and that's never gonna be sexy.</li><li>We love Henry Cavill in season 1 of The Witcher. <a href="https://youtu.be/ComJUMTmNeo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Just watch this video of them kissing</a>. Jen stopped watching when they broke up in episode 7, and <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1229204824056573953" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Netflix really wants her to finish</a>.</li><li>The <a href="https://twitter.com/MaryAnnHarlan/status/1230542891434430464" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">idea for this week's episode came from listener Mary Ann Harlan</a> who wondered, "Do you have an episode on how female friendships in romance disrupt the patriarchy? Or even just how female friendships work in a good way in romance?" I mean, probably just listen to season 1 where we talked about the witches and valkyries.</li><li>Jen wrote about <a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/news-and-features/articles/happy-galentines-day-romance-readers/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">women's friendship in romance</a> for Galentine's Day. So if you're looking for more recommendations, check it out.</li><li>Some of the early proto-women friendships in historicals are <a href="https://amzn.to/2x5T7r7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lisa Kleypas's Wallflowers</a>and <a href="https://amzn.to/2wpAlL1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Penelope</a> in the Bridgerton series.</li><li><a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2015/10/how-friendships-change-over-time-in-adulthood/411466/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adult friendships are important</a> even if you don't have <a href="https://www.scarymommy.com/why-dont-adults-have-best-friends/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a best friend</a>.</li><li>Deficit modeling is a kind of thinking that assumes people can't move forward due to deficits or shortcomings. <a href="https://www.edutopia.org/blog/deficit-model-is-harming-students-janice-lombardi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">It's a phrase used in education that blames students and their families for lack of school readiness</a>; <a href="https://bbaenglish.wordpress.com/2016/01/14/language-and-gender-the-deficit-model/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">for women, it's used when discussing the way they assert themselves.</a></li><li>It would be really weird <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/27/opinion/sunday/lady-gaga-boyfriend.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">if your ex started dating Lady Gaga</a>.</li><li>It can be hard to be friends when the <a href="https://womenwhomoney.com/maintain-friendships-when-financial-inequalities-exist/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">other person has more money than you</a>.</li><li>In abusive relationships, <a href="https://www.breakthecycle.org/blog/know-signs-spotlight-isolation-friends-and-family" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the abuser often separates and isolates the victim from their friends and family</a> in order to control them.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Outsiders_(novel)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Outsiders</a> by SE Hinton is a really beloved book. One day, Jen's going to write a think piece about how it's all about American identity.</li><li>Every woman loves the song <a href="https://youtu.be/gYkACVDFmeg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"I Will Survive."</a> We don't make the rules.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/theLindashow" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Linda</a> would definitely have your back, so follow her on Twitter if you're not already.</li><li>Looking for new buttons from Kelly? Jen loves <a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/product-page/danger-bang" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Danger Bang!</a> while Sarah is <a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/product-page/live-every-week-like-it-s-rune-week" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Living Every Week like it's Rune Week</a>. <a href="https://jordandene.com/collections/romance-sarah-maclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The full set of t-shirts and totes is available now from Jordandene</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.cdc.gov/handwashing/when-how-handwashing.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wash your hands! Stop touching your face!</a></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/32LycW6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Devil's Bride</a> by Stephanie Laurens is next week.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/3/3/s0226-womens-friendship-in-romance-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/3/3/s0226-womens-friendship-in-romance-interstitial]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5e5ebeda961f05323488a1aa</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2020 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/41ff4884-d070-4054-be7c-c20abec18a30/friendship-final-mastered-reva.mp3" length="62764595" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>58:47</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>26</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>26</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We’re talking about women’s friendship in romance this week — how it works, why it’s important, and why we want all our romance heroines to have a squad.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-41ff4884-d070-4054-be7c-c20abec18a30.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S02.25: Asking For Trouble: Tessa Bailey is the Queen of Dirty Talk</title><itunes:title>Asking For Trouble: Tessa Bailey is the Queen of Dirty Talk</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This week we're mixing it up, talking about an author more than a specific book -- the Queen of Dirty Talk herself, Tessa Bailey. But we're not just talking about the sexybits -- we're also talking about working class heroes, women and worry and how awesome it is to watch authors evolve.</p><p>We love having you with us! — subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform and like/review the podcast if you’re so inclined!</p><p>In two weeks, we’re reading a book that blooded both Sarah and Jen — and approximately 50% of Romancelandia, we think -- Stephanie Laurens's Devil's Bride, starring Devil Cynster, who also happens to be the only romance hero Sarah's husband can name (yes, even now). Find it at: <a href="https://amzn.to/38Zqn1v" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/devils-bride-stephanie-laurens/1103371022" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/devils-bride/id363686327?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/ww/en/ebook/devil-s-bride" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/363499.Devil_s_Bride" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Sarah was heading to Birmingham for the&nbsp;<a href="http://www.hooverlibrary.org/sv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Southern Voices Book Festival</a>. The last time she was there, it was when she was a kid going to a&nbsp;<a href="https://www.soinc.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Science Olympiad</a>&nbsp;competition. Based on the description of that event, Jen suspects that she was outside&nbsp;<a href="https://orienteeringusa.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">orienteering</a>. She's going to see&nbsp;<a href="http://freshfiction.com/author.php?id=23852" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rachel Hawkins</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="http://freshfiction.com/author.php?id=35030" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Naima Simone</a>!</li><li>Meanwhile, Jen went to see&nbsp;<a href="https://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/theater/reviews/ct-ent-bug-steppenwolf-review-0205-20200204-o4ksoshisvdddffaqpewaromji-story.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bug</a>&nbsp;by&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/23/magazine/tracy-letts-is-still-haunted-by-his-past.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tracy Letts</a>&nbsp;at the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.steppenwolf.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Steppenwolf Theater</a>, which is known for being the home theater of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.steppenwolf.org/ensemble/member-pages/john--malkovich/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">John Malkovich</a>&nbsp;and also where hope goes to die.</li><li>Jen wrote about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/news-and-features/articles/remembering-romance-novelist-johanna-lindsey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Johanna Lindsey and her New York Times obituary</a>&nbsp;in a column for Kirkus.</li><li>The hero of&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2w1zfVA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Protecting What's His</a>&nbsp;is Derek Tyler, which is Jen's&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/9/24/s021-lisa-kleypas-does-spectacles-better-than-f-scott-fitzgerald-dreaming-of-you" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">second favorite romance Derek</a>. Derek and Ginger also appear in a follow-up novella,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3c84zT5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Protecting What's Theirs</a>. Derek also appears as a secondary character in the&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/32u87uz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Crossing the Lines series</a>, where he assembles a team of ex-cons and misfits as a special crime fighting team. Ginger's sister gets her own book in&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/39Z6Dek" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Unfixable</a>.</li><li>The rise of eBooks made room for indie publishing and small presses like Entangled. Here's the story of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.huffpost.com/entry/how-barbara-freethy-becam_b_5647391" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">how Barabara Freethy</a>&nbsp;took advantage of&nbsp;<a href="https://slate.com/technology/2009/02/the-amazing-amazon-kindle-is-bad-news-for-the-publishing-industry.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Kindle revolution</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.bustle.com/p/10-enemies-turned-lovers-stories-that-take-the-hating-you-to-dating-you-trope-to-the-next-level-61001" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Enemies to Lovers</a>&nbsp;is one of the most beloved romance tropes. Jen is going to talk about her whole energy theory in an upcoming Kirkus column.</li><li>This is a romance that deals with&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/86194.Class_Differences_in_Contemporary_Romance_" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">class</a>&nbsp;in an unusual way--she's the&nbsp;<a href="https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/UptownGirl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">poor little rich girl</a>, while he's working two jobs because of family obligations to his siblings.</li><li>Tessa Bailey is the Queen of Dirty Talk. She just is.&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1114312353976332289" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen's favorite is Duke from Worked Up</a>, who is a perfect&nbsp;<a href="https://frolic.media/grunt-work-when-your-romance-herp-can-barely-make-a-sound/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">grunting hero</a>.</li><li>Jen noticed that several motifs that appear in Asking for Trouble appear in other books -- for example, there is a trip to Atlantic City in&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2uvkTwo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Worked Up</a>, and connecting doors in a hotel room in&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2HQrWTc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Driven by Fate</a>.</li><li>Sarah identifies "heroine as rock" as part of Tessa Bailey's&nbsp;<a href="https://jamigold.com/2019/12/author-insights-whats-our-core-story/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">core story</a>, Jen noticed the pull between familial duty and individual needs. At first Sarah thought Tessa's most recent book,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2Tbleg7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love Her or Lose Her</a>, doesn't fit into the core story...but after talking it through, she thinks it fits perfectly.</li><li>Sarah mentioned the one with a hero who is a recovering alcoholic called&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3807OIV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Indecent Exposure</a>. Jen also loved it and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2018/01/jens-review-indecent-exposure.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">reviewed it for The Book Queen</a>.</li><li>Some advice in case you ever need to&nbsp;<a href="https://slate.com/human-interest/2014/05/how-to-stop-a-wedding-two-methods.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">stop a wedding</a>.</li><li>Buy&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/shop" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">buttons and stickers from Kelly at Jen's shop</a>&nbsp;and the newly available&nbsp;<a href="https://jordandene.com/collections/romance-sarah-maclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">full line of t-shirts from Jordandene</a>.</li><li>Listen to&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6QWZy7vo4Dw9eS733PJj1U?si=rpsmW2Q9TzWtHBJwTCGdzQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this week's music selections</a>&nbsp;and peruse&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/3/4/jte7muq51khif7vra0owymuzpgmfwz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this episode's transcript</a>.</li><li>Next time on Fated Mates, we'll be reading&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2VkQTOE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Devil's Bride</a>&nbsp;by Stephanie Laurens.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/2/24/s0225-asking-for-trouble </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week we're mixing it up, talking about an author more than a specific book -- the Queen of Dirty Talk herself, Tessa Bailey. But we're not just talking about the sexybits -- we're also talking about working class heroes, women and worry and how awesome it is to watch authors evolve.</p><p>We love having you with us! — subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform and like/review the podcast if you’re so inclined!</p><p>In two weeks, we’re reading a book that blooded both Sarah and Jen — and approximately 50% of Romancelandia, we think -- Stephanie Laurens's Devil's Bride, starring Devil Cynster, who also happens to be the only romance hero Sarah's husband can name (yes, even now). Find it at: <a href="https://amzn.to/38Zqn1v" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/devils-bride-stephanie-laurens/1103371022" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/devils-bride/id363686327?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/ww/en/ebook/devil-s-bride" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/363499.Devil_s_Bride" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Sarah was heading to Birmingham for the&nbsp;<a href="http://www.hooverlibrary.org/sv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Southern Voices Book Festival</a>. The last time she was there, it was when she was a kid going to a&nbsp;<a href="https://www.soinc.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Science Olympiad</a>&nbsp;competition. Based on the description of that event, Jen suspects that she was outside&nbsp;<a href="https://orienteeringusa.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">orienteering</a>. She's going to see&nbsp;<a href="http://freshfiction.com/author.php?id=23852" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rachel Hawkins</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="http://freshfiction.com/author.php?id=35030" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Naima Simone</a>!</li><li>Meanwhile, Jen went to see&nbsp;<a href="https://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/theater/reviews/ct-ent-bug-steppenwolf-review-0205-20200204-o4ksoshisvdddffaqpewaromji-story.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bug</a>&nbsp;by&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/23/magazine/tracy-letts-is-still-haunted-by-his-past.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tracy Letts</a>&nbsp;at the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.steppenwolf.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Steppenwolf Theater</a>, which is known for being the home theater of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.steppenwolf.org/ensemble/member-pages/john--malkovich/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">John Malkovich</a>&nbsp;and also where hope goes to die.</li><li>Jen wrote about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/news-and-features/articles/remembering-romance-novelist-johanna-lindsey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Johanna Lindsey and her New York Times obituary</a>&nbsp;in a column for Kirkus.</li><li>The hero of&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2w1zfVA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Protecting What's His</a>&nbsp;is Derek Tyler, which is Jen's&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/9/24/s021-lisa-kleypas-does-spectacles-better-than-f-scott-fitzgerald-dreaming-of-you" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">second favorite romance Derek</a>. Derek and Ginger also appear in a follow-up novella,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3c84zT5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Protecting What's Theirs</a>. Derek also appears as a secondary character in the&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/32u87uz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Crossing the Lines series</a>, where he assembles a team of ex-cons and misfits as a special crime fighting team. Ginger's sister gets her own book in&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/39Z6Dek" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Unfixable</a>.</li><li>The rise of eBooks made room for indie publishing and small presses like Entangled. Here's the story of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.huffpost.com/entry/how-barbara-freethy-becam_b_5647391" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">how Barabara Freethy</a>&nbsp;took advantage of&nbsp;<a href="https://slate.com/technology/2009/02/the-amazing-amazon-kindle-is-bad-news-for-the-publishing-industry.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Kindle revolution</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.bustle.com/p/10-enemies-turned-lovers-stories-that-take-the-hating-you-to-dating-you-trope-to-the-next-level-61001" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Enemies to Lovers</a>&nbsp;is one of the most beloved romance tropes. Jen is going to talk about her whole energy theory in an upcoming Kirkus column.</li><li>This is a romance that deals with&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/86194.Class_Differences_in_Contemporary_Romance_" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">class</a>&nbsp;in an unusual way--she's the&nbsp;<a href="https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/UptownGirl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">poor little rich girl</a>, while he's working two jobs because of family obligations to his siblings.</li><li>Tessa Bailey is the Queen of Dirty Talk. She just is.&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1114312353976332289" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen's favorite is Duke from Worked Up</a>, who is a perfect&nbsp;<a href="https://frolic.media/grunt-work-when-your-romance-herp-can-barely-make-a-sound/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">grunting hero</a>.</li><li>Jen noticed that several motifs that appear in Asking for Trouble appear in other books -- for example, there is a trip to Atlantic City in&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2uvkTwo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Worked Up</a>, and connecting doors in a hotel room in&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2HQrWTc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Driven by Fate</a>.</li><li>Sarah identifies "heroine as rock" as part of Tessa Bailey's&nbsp;<a href="https://jamigold.com/2019/12/author-insights-whats-our-core-story/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">core story</a>, Jen noticed the pull between familial duty and individual needs. At first Sarah thought Tessa's most recent book,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2Tbleg7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love Her or Lose Her</a>, doesn't fit into the core story...but after talking it through, she thinks it fits perfectly.</li><li>Sarah mentioned the one with a hero who is a recovering alcoholic called&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/3807OIV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Indecent Exposure</a>. Jen also loved it and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2018/01/jens-review-indecent-exposure.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">reviewed it for The Book Queen</a>.</li><li>Some advice in case you ever need to&nbsp;<a href="https://slate.com/human-interest/2014/05/how-to-stop-a-wedding-two-methods.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">stop a wedding</a>.</li><li>Buy&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/shop" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">buttons and stickers from Kelly at Jen's shop</a>&nbsp;and the newly available&nbsp;<a href="https://jordandene.com/collections/romance-sarah-maclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">full line of t-shirts from Jordandene</a>.</li><li>Listen to&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6QWZy7vo4Dw9eS733PJj1U?si=rpsmW2Q9TzWtHBJwTCGdzQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this week's music selections</a>&nbsp;and peruse&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/3/4/jte7muq51khif7vra0owymuzpgmfwz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this episode's transcript</a>.</li><li>Next time on Fated Mates, we'll be reading&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2VkQTOE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Devil's Bride</a>&nbsp;by Stephanie Laurens.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/2/24/s0225-asking-for-trouble </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/2/24/s0225-asking-for-trouble]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5e541d80cce4a125611b71d7</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 26 Feb 2020 05:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/a543cbd7-ec2e-42f0-bb3f-e135b35f8a6a/fated-mates-tessa-bailey-mastered-final.mp3" length="60484530" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>58:51</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>25</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>25</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:summary>This week we&apos;re mixing it up, talking about an author more than a specific book -- the Queen of Dirty Talk herself, Tessa Bailey. But we&apos;re not just talking about the sexybits -- we&apos;re also talking about working class heroes, women and worry and how awesome it is to watch authors evolve.</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/382b96a4-c0f2-4024-9200-c86972736451/index.html" type="text/html"/><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-a543cbd7-ec2e-42f0-bb3f-e135b35f8a6a.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S02.24: Quick  and Dirty Romance</title><itunes:title>Quick and Dirty Romance</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It’s February and it’s winter and it’s grey and dark and we’re all just looking for some books that are quick, dirty and delicious. Or, at least, Sarah &amp; Jen are. If you are, too, this is the week for you!</p><p>We love having you with us! — subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform and like/review the podcast if you’re so inclined!</p><p>Next week, we’re reading the Queen of Dirty Talk! Sarah and Jen both love Tessa Bailey — so we’ll be talking about our two favorites of her books, <a href="https://amzn.to/3bvLWs4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Asking for Trouble</em></a> (Sarah’s) and <a href="https://amzn.to/3bt3THH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Protecting What’s His</em></a> (Jen’s). Find them at: <a href="https://amzn.to/37hIluj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/s/%22Tessa%20Bailey's%20Line%20of%20Duty%20Series%22?Ns=P_Series_Number&amp;Ntk=P_Series_Title&amp;Ntx=mode%20matchall" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/asking-for-trouble/id717856920?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/search?fcsearchfield=Series&amp;query=Line%20of%20Duty&amp;seriesId=d9b9b9b4-5bff-53f4-993c-2729d491d143" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Sarah had boozy brunch with the RITA Writer’s Room—<a href="https://www.nisha-sharma.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nisha Sharma</a>, <a href="https://www.laquette.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LaQuette</a>, <a href="https://adrianaherreraromance.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adriana Herrera</a>, <a href="https://www.andiejchristopher.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Andie Christopher</a>, <a href="https://alexisdaria.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alexis Daria</a>, and <a href="http://www.joannashupe.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joanna Shupe</a> (<a href="https://www.thesierrasimone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sierra Simone</a> &amp; <a href="http://www.traceylivesay.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tracey Livesay</a> weren't there). You should maybe <a href="https://twitter.com/Nishawrites/status/1155290032422477824" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">check out this awesome video</a> of them in all their slow motion glory.</li><li>Jen didn’t know what <a href="https://www.sleep.org/articles/what-is-asmr/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ASMR</a> is either.</li><li>Valentine’s Day is Go Week for Sarah. Jen wrote about <a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/features/happy-galentines-day-romance-readers/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Galentine’s Day for Kirkus</a>. But one thing we can all agree on: <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/is-anna-karenina-a-love-story" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Anna Karenina isn’t a fucking romance</a>. Getting hit by a train does not qualify!</li><li>The 2 for 1 rule: in a male/female romance, she comes twice for every time he comes.</li><li>If you’re in Chicago, you can see Fated Mates Live at <a href="https://chicagospringfling.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spring Fling</a>, and at <a href="https://info.harpercollins.com/kisscon/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">KissCon</a>, it’ll be a podcast ménage special with us, the <a href="https://wickedwallflowersclub.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wicked Wallflowers</a>, and <a href="http://heavingbosomspodcast.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heaving Bosoms</a> podcast.</li><li>What will Craven Day 2021 bring? Stay tuned.</li><li>Sarah’s friend <a href="https://twitter.com/LadyHawkins" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rachel Hawkins</a> told Sarah to read A Heart of Blood and Ashes by <a href="https://millavane.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Milla Vane</a>, which is a pen name for Meljean Brook, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/32aqa91" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Iron Duke</a>. Is there <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1228791597778788352" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">danger banging</a>? Yes. Is there vengeance banging? Also yes.</li><li>Jen read and loved White Out by <a href="https://www.adrianaanders.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adriana Anders</a>, which is a romantic suspense novel that takes place in Antarctica. It’s cold, but they still manage to danger bang.</li><li>Speaking of Danger Banging, Jen’s favorite is in the first of the Kinky Bank Robbers series by <a href="https://annikamartinbooks.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Annika Martin</a>. It's honestly more like heat-stroke banging.</li><li>Jen and Sarah don’t think a quick and dirty read has to be InstaLust, but it does have to get right to the <a href="https://narrativefirst.com/articles/plot-points-and-the-inciting-incident/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">inciting incident</a>.</li><li>Sarah recommends London Hale (a pen name for authors Ellis Lee and Brighton Walsh) as a reliable quick and dirty read. Start with <a href="https://amzn.to/2V7cKcm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The DILF</a> (if you're ok with taboo) or <a href="https://amzn.to/2wy7m85" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Talk Dirty To Me</a> (if you'd prefer something a bit further left on the Simone Scale).</li><li><a href="https://www.humanesociety.org/resources/top-reasons-adopt-pet" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adopt don’t shop</a> when it comes to real pet stores.</li><li><a href="https://www.webmd.com/baby/breastfeeding-vs-formula-feeding#1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Breastfeed if you can and if you want to</a>, but if you can’t that’s fine, too. Even if you live in Fucking <a href="https://www.movoto.com/guide/berkeley-ca/berkeley-stereotypes/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Berkeley</a>. Or the Berkeley of <a href="https://imgur.com/a/ujY4u" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brooklyn</a>.</li><li>Some other of our favorite quick and dirty reads that are mostly in space: <a href="https://amzn.to/2ucAkJL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Grace Goodwin’s Interstellar Brides</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/2P6d1sk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ruby Dixon’s Ice Planet Barbarians</a>. But if you’re reading the Ice Planet Barbarians,please listen to our friend Dani’s <a href="https://twitter.com/iceplanetpod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ice Planet Pod</a>. It’s great.</li><li>More space romances: <a href="https://amzn.to/329e7sp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Laurann Donner’s New Species series</a>, or <a href="https://amzn.to/2V0P5KJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cavas</a>, the one that appeared recently on the USA Today Bestseller list (not the New York Times, Jen misspoke) is one from the Vorge Series. Cynthia Sax has a whole cyborg series. Jen also really liked The Grabbed series by Lolita Lopez.</li><li>What we're trying to say is that these books are the romance equivalent of <a href="https://www.thewrap.com/fast-and-furious-movies-ranked-worst-best-hobbs-shaw/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Fast and the Furious series</a>--which is the pinnacle of Jen's favorite movie genre, "Handsome men blow things up."</li><li>Finally, check out <a href="https://amzn.to/2SWfsid" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brill Harper’s alphamallow series</a>. But Jen’s favorite was Altogether, which is very, very hot. Yum. This <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Plow" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mr. Plow</a> is <em>not quite</em> as hot; unless your name is Marge, of course.</li><li>Buy<a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/shop" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> buttons and stickers from Kelly</a> and <a href="https://jordandene.com/collections/romance-sarah-maclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">t-shirts and totes from Jordandene</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/2/18/s0224-quick-and-dirty-romance-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s February and it’s winter and it’s grey and dark and we’re all just looking for some books that are quick, dirty and delicious. Or, at least, Sarah &amp; Jen are. If you are, too, this is the week for you!</p><p>We love having you with us! — subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform and like/review the podcast if you’re so inclined!</p><p>Next week, we’re reading the Queen of Dirty Talk! Sarah and Jen both love Tessa Bailey — so we’ll be talking about our two favorites of her books, <a href="https://amzn.to/3bvLWs4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Asking for Trouble</em></a> (Sarah’s) and <a href="https://amzn.to/3bt3THH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Protecting What’s His</em></a> (Jen’s). Find them at: <a href="https://amzn.to/37hIluj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/s/%22Tessa%20Bailey's%20Line%20of%20Duty%20Series%22?Ns=P_Series_Number&amp;Ntk=P_Series_Title&amp;Ntx=mode%20matchall" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/asking-for-trouble/id717856920?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/search?fcsearchfield=Series&amp;query=Line%20of%20Duty&amp;seriesId=d9b9b9b4-5bff-53f4-993c-2729d491d143" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Sarah had boozy brunch with the RITA Writer’s Room—<a href="https://www.nisha-sharma.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nisha Sharma</a>, <a href="https://www.laquette.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LaQuette</a>, <a href="https://adrianaherreraromance.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adriana Herrera</a>, <a href="https://www.andiejchristopher.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Andie Christopher</a>, <a href="https://alexisdaria.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alexis Daria</a>, and <a href="http://www.joannashupe.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joanna Shupe</a> (<a href="https://www.thesierrasimone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sierra Simone</a> &amp; <a href="http://www.traceylivesay.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tracey Livesay</a> weren't there). You should maybe <a href="https://twitter.com/Nishawrites/status/1155290032422477824" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">check out this awesome video</a> of them in all their slow motion glory.</li><li>Jen didn’t know what <a href="https://www.sleep.org/articles/what-is-asmr/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ASMR</a> is either.</li><li>Valentine’s Day is Go Week for Sarah. Jen wrote about <a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/features/happy-galentines-day-romance-readers/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Galentine’s Day for Kirkus</a>. But one thing we can all agree on: <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/is-anna-karenina-a-love-story" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Anna Karenina isn’t a fucking romance</a>. Getting hit by a train does not qualify!</li><li>The 2 for 1 rule: in a male/female romance, she comes twice for every time he comes.</li><li>If you’re in Chicago, you can see Fated Mates Live at <a href="https://chicagospringfling.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spring Fling</a>, and at <a href="https://info.harpercollins.com/kisscon/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">KissCon</a>, it’ll be a podcast ménage special with us, the <a href="https://wickedwallflowersclub.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wicked Wallflowers</a>, and <a href="http://heavingbosomspodcast.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heaving Bosoms</a> podcast.</li><li>What will Craven Day 2021 bring? Stay tuned.</li><li>Sarah’s friend <a href="https://twitter.com/LadyHawkins" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rachel Hawkins</a> told Sarah to read A Heart of Blood and Ashes by <a href="https://millavane.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Milla Vane</a>, which is a pen name for Meljean Brook, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/32aqa91" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Iron Duke</a>. Is there <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1228791597778788352" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">danger banging</a>? Yes. Is there vengeance banging? Also yes.</li><li>Jen read and loved White Out by <a href="https://www.adrianaanders.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adriana Anders</a>, which is a romantic suspense novel that takes place in Antarctica. It’s cold, but they still manage to danger bang.</li><li>Speaking of Danger Banging, Jen’s favorite is in the first of the Kinky Bank Robbers series by <a href="https://annikamartinbooks.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Annika Martin</a>. It's honestly more like heat-stroke banging.</li><li>Jen and Sarah don’t think a quick and dirty read has to be InstaLust, but it does have to get right to the <a href="https://narrativefirst.com/articles/plot-points-and-the-inciting-incident/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">inciting incident</a>.</li><li>Sarah recommends London Hale (a pen name for authors Ellis Lee and Brighton Walsh) as a reliable quick and dirty read. Start with <a href="https://amzn.to/2V7cKcm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The DILF</a> (if you're ok with taboo) or <a href="https://amzn.to/2wy7m85" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Talk Dirty To Me</a> (if you'd prefer something a bit further left on the Simone Scale).</li><li><a href="https://www.humanesociety.org/resources/top-reasons-adopt-pet" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adopt don’t shop</a> when it comes to real pet stores.</li><li><a href="https://www.webmd.com/baby/breastfeeding-vs-formula-feeding#1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Breastfeed if you can and if you want to</a>, but if you can’t that’s fine, too. Even if you live in Fucking <a href="https://www.movoto.com/guide/berkeley-ca/berkeley-stereotypes/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Berkeley</a>. Or the Berkeley of <a href="https://imgur.com/a/ujY4u" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brooklyn</a>.</li><li>Some other of our favorite quick and dirty reads that are mostly in space: <a href="https://amzn.to/2ucAkJL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Grace Goodwin’s Interstellar Brides</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/2P6d1sk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ruby Dixon’s Ice Planet Barbarians</a>. But if you’re reading the Ice Planet Barbarians,please listen to our friend Dani’s <a href="https://twitter.com/iceplanetpod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ice Planet Pod</a>. It’s great.</li><li>More space romances: <a href="https://amzn.to/329e7sp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Laurann Donner’s New Species series</a>, or <a href="https://amzn.to/2V0P5KJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cavas</a>, the one that appeared recently on the USA Today Bestseller list (not the New York Times, Jen misspoke) is one from the Vorge Series. Cynthia Sax has a whole cyborg series. Jen also really liked The Grabbed series by Lolita Lopez.</li><li>What we're trying to say is that these books are the romance equivalent of <a href="https://www.thewrap.com/fast-and-furious-movies-ranked-worst-best-hobbs-shaw/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Fast and the Furious series</a>--which is the pinnacle of Jen's favorite movie genre, "Handsome men blow things up."</li><li>Finally, check out <a href="https://amzn.to/2SWfsid" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brill Harper’s alphamallow series</a>. But Jen’s favorite was Altogether, which is very, very hot. Yum. This <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Plow" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mr. Plow</a> is <em>not quite</em> as hot; unless your name is Marge, of course.</li><li>Buy<a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/shop" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> buttons and stickers from Kelly</a> and <a href="https://jordandene.com/collections/romance-sarah-maclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">t-shirts and totes from Jordandene</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/2/18/s0224-quick-and-dirty-romance-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/2/18/s0224-quick-and-dirty-romance-interstitial]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5e4c1a3fd8ccea72795a6819</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 19 Feb 2020 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/6a0242f7-5948-47f0-bc69-9bbcf9ea9583/fated-mates-quick-and-dirty-final-master.mp3" length="58400613" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>56:34</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>24</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>24</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:summary>It’s February and it’s winter and it’s grey and dark and we’re all just looking for some books that are quick, dirty and delicious. Or, at least, Sarah &amp; Jen are. If you are, too, this is the week for you!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-6a0242f7-5948-47f0-bc69-9bbcf9ea9583.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S02.23: Waking Up with the Duke: Lorraine Heath Breaks A Lot of Romance Rules</title><itunes:title>Waking Up with the Duke: Lorraine Heath Breaks A Lot of Romance Rules</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This week, it’s one of Sarah’s favorites, and by an author Jen has never read! Lorraine Heath is a master of the historical, and this one is near-perfect. It’s complex and nuanced and it has an infidelity plot and THERE IS SO MUCH ANGST!</p><p>We love having you with us! — subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform and like/review the podcast if you’re so inclined!</p><p>In two weeks, we’re reading the Queen of Dirty Talk! Sarah and Jen both love Tessa Bailey — so we’ll be talking about our two favorites of her books, <a href="https://amzn.to/3bvLWs4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Asking for Trouble</em></a> (Sarah’s) and <a href="https://amzn.to/3bt3THH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Protecting What’s His</em></a> (Jen’s). Find them at: <a href="https://amzn.to/37hIluj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/s/%22Tessa%20Bailey's%20Line%20of%20Duty%20Series%22?Ns=P_Series_Number&amp;Ntk=P_Series_Title&amp;Ntx=mode%20matchall" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/asking-for-trouble/id717856920?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/search?fcsearchfield=Series&amp;query=Line%20of%20Duty&amp;seriesId=d9b9b9b4-5bff-53f4-993c-2729d491d143" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>.</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Turns out Sarah and Jen aren't the only people who think these Apple keyboards are trash--after winning a 2020 Oscar for Best Adapted Screenplay,&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/acarboni/status/1226757458867015680" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Taika Waititi had quite a bit to say on the subject</a>.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/TomBeerBooks" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tom Beer</a>&nbsp;is one of Jen's editors at Kirkus, and you should follow him on Twitter.</li><li>You can read&nbsp;<a href="https://thesophian.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Smith College Sophian</a>&nbsp;on line, and we'll link to the interview with Sarah onces it goes live.</li><li>We have&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/N1ikySurAP0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Leslie Knope from Parks &amp; Recreation</a>&nbsp;to thank for the glory that is Galentine's Day.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/features/happy-galentines-day-romance-readers/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Read Jen's column about some books that celebrate women's friendship</a>.</li><li>A few years ago during #RomBkLove,&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/bardsong" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shantastic/@bardsong</a>&nbsp;wrote a great piece about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.anacoqui.com/2018/05/day-24-rombklove-disability-.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">disability in romance</a>. You can also check out the blog,&nbsp;<a href="https://sensedisability.wordpress.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sense and Disability</a>&nbsp;by&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/Callalily57" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@Callalily</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.audiofilemagazine.com/narrators/kate-reading/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kate Reading</a>&nbsp;is an amazing audiobook narrator, she's the one who narrates&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/11/25/s0212-lord-of-scoundrels" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lord of Scoundrels</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.standoutbooks.com/fridging/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fridging</a>&nbsp;is a word from comics that is when women characters are killed to motivate a male character, but can be used to describe any time a less powerful or privileged character is used as a plot device.&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Stanley" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Flat Stanley</a>&nbsp;is a character in children's books, but&nbsp;<a href="https://www.litcharts.com/literary-devices-and-terms/flat-character" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">flat characters</a>&nbsp;you might remember from English class.</li><li>Harry and Meghan are still taking money from&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/26/world/europe/harry-meghan-charles-duchy-of-cornwall.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Duchy of Cornwall</a>.</li><li>Jen said she was going to go back and read the other books in the trilogy, and&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2w4BI1r" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">they are bundled together on Amazon for $10</a>.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bechdel_test" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Bechdel Test</a>&nbsp;is a pretty simple way of judging how inclusive movies are of women characters;&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theverge.com/2017/12/22/16807424/alternatives-bechdel-test-bad-moms-lena-waithe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">it's limited</a>&nbsp;but&nbsp;<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/do-this-years-best-picture-oscar-nominees-pass-the-bechdel-test" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">powerful</a>. Jen wrote about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2018/07/jens-review-unraveled.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">external and internal conflict in romance</a>, but we also talked about it on&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/11/4/s029-priest-by-sierra-simone" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Priest episode</a>&nbsp;-- and we are always unpacking the way conflict works in romance.</li><li>Dialogue tags get a bad rap, famously&nbsp;<a href="https://writingcooperative.com/write-it-like-elmore-leonard-ditch-formal-language-82e642c1c692" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Elmore Leonard claimed that writers should only use "said" and "asked.</a>" In this part of the discussion, Sarah mentioned her friend&nbsp;<a href="https://barrylyga.com/morally-complicated-ya/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barry Lyga, a YA author</a>.</li><li>Jen thinks these three are&nbsp;<a href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/anxiety-zen/201609/6-signs-codependent-relationship" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">codependent</a>.</li><li>Cheating is&nbsp;<a href="https://grammarist.com/usage/third-rail/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the third rail</a>&nbsp;of romance. It is. There are some&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show/cheating-romance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lists on Goodreads of romances that have cheating</a>, but it's complicated and difficult. One Jen read recently was&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/37hQ3Vs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">I Want You Back by Lorelei James</a>, but the cheating happened in the past. If you're interested in reading another book about someone who discovers the other family, Jen recommends&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/37jD0CO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Silver Sparrow by Tayari Jones.</a></li><li>Next time, we'll be reading Tessa Bailey, The Queen of Dirty Talk. Sarah's choice is&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/39xK8x3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Asking for Trouble</a>, and a secondary text is the first one of that same series,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2OMZgyn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Protecting What's His</a>.</li><li>Buy&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/shop" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">stickers and buttons from Kelly</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://jordandene.com/collections/romance-sarah-maclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">t-shirts from Jordan</a>.</li><li>We are experimenting with some voice to text&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/transcripts/transcript-s0223-waking-up-with-the-duke-lorraine-heath-breaks-a-lot-of-romance-rules" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">transcripts, so here's the first one for this episode</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/2/11/s0223-waking-up-with-the-duke </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, it’s one of Sarah’s favorites, and by an author Jen has never read! Lorraine Heath is a master of the historical, and this one is near-perfect. It’s complex and nuanced and it has an infidelity plot and THERE IS SO MUCH ANGST!</p><p>We love having you with us! — subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform and like/review the podcast if you’re so inclined!</p><p>In two weeks, we’re reading the Queen of Dirty Talk! Sarah and Jen both love Tessa Bailey — so we’ll be talking about our two favorites of her books, <a href="https://amzn.to/3bvLWs4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Asking for Trouble</em></a> (Sarah’s) and <a href="https://amzn.to/3bt3THH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Protecting What’s His</em></a> (Jen’s). Find them at: <a href="https://amzn.to/37hIluj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/s/%22Tessa%20Bailey's%20Line%20of%20Duty%20Series%22?Ns=P_Series_Number&amp;Ntk=P_Series_Title&amp;Ntx=mode%20matchall" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/asking-for-trouble/id717856920?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/search?fcsearchfield=Series&amp;query=Line%20of%20Duty&amp;seriesId=d9b9b9b4-5bff-53f4-993c-2729d491d143" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>.</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Turns out Sarah and Jen aren't the only people who think these Apple keyboards are trash--after winning a 2020 Oscar for Best Adapted Screenplay,&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/acarboni/status/1226757458867015680" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Taika Waititi had quite a bit to say on the subject</a>.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/TomBeerBooks" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tom Beer</a>&nbsp;is one of Jen's editors at Kirkus, and you should follow him on Twitter.</li><li>You can read&nbsp;<a href="https://thesophian.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Smith College Sophian</a>&nbsp;on line, and we'll link to the interview with Sarah onces it goes live.</li><li>We have&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/N1ikySurAP0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Leslie Knope from Parks &amp; Recreation</a>&nbsp;to thank for the glory that is Galentine's Day.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/features/happy-galentines-day-romance-readers/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Read Jen's column about some books that celebrate women's friendship</a>.</li><li>A few years ago during #RomBkLove,&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/bardsong" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shantastic/@bardsong</a>&nbsp;wrote a great piece about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.anacoqui.com/2018/05/day-24-rombklove-disability-.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">disability in romance</a>. You can also check out the blog,&nbsp;<a href="https://sensedisability.wordpress.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sense and Disability</a>&nbsp;by&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/Callalily57" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@Callalily</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.audiofilemagazine.com/narrators/kate-reading/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kate Reading</a>&nbsp;is an amazing audiobook narrator, she's the one who narrates&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/11/25/s0212-lord-of-scoundrels" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lord of Scoundrels</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.standoutbooks.com/fridging/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fridging</a>&nbsp;is a word from comics that is when women characters are killed to motivate a male character, but can be used to describe any time a less powerful or privileged character is used as a plot device.&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Stanley" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Flat Stanley</a>&nbsp;is a character in children's books, but&nbsp;<a href="https://www.litcharts.com/literary-devices-and-terms/flat-character" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">flat characters</a>&nbsp;you might remember from English class.</li><li>Harry and Meghan are still taking money from&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/26/world/europe/harry-meghan-charles-duchy-of-cornwall.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Duchy of Cornwall</a>.</li><li>Jen said she was going to go back and read the other books in the trilogy, and&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2w4BI1r" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">they are bundled together on Amazon for $10</a>.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bechdel_test" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Bechdel Test</a>&nbsp;is a pretty simple way of judging how inclusive movies are of women characters;&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theverge.com/2017/12/22/16807424/alternatives-bechdel-test-bad-moms-lena-waithe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">it's limited</a>&nbsp;but&nbsp;<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/do-this-years-best-picture-oscar-nominees-pass-the-bechdel-test" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">powerful</a>. Jen wrote about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2018/07/jens-review-unraveled.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">external and internal conflict in romance</a>, but we also talked about it on&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/11/4/s029-priest-by-sierra-simone" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Priest episode</a>&nbsp;-- and we are always unpacking the way conflict works in romance.</li><li>Dialogue tags get a bad rap, famously&nbsp;<a href="https://writingcooperative.com/write-it-like-elmore-leonard-ditch-formal-language-82e642c1c692" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Elmore Leonard claimed that writers should only use "said" and "asked.</a>" In this part of the discussion, Sarah mentioned her friend&nbsp;<a href="https://barrylyga.com/morally-complicated-ya/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barry Lyga, a YA author</a>.</li><li>Jen thinks these three are&nbsp;<a href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/anxiety-zen/201609/6-signs-codependent-relationship" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">codependent</a>.</li><li>Cheating is&nbsp;<a href="https://grammarist.com/usage/third-rail/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the third rail</a>&nbsp;of romance. It is. There are some&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show/cheating-romance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lists on Goodreads of romances that have cheating</a>, but it's complicated and difficult. One Jen read recently was&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/37hQ3Vs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">I Want You Back by Lorelei James</a>, but the cheating happened in the past. If you're interested in reading another book about someone who discovers the other family, Jen recommends&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/37jD0CO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Silver Sparrow by Tayari Jones.</a></li><li>Next time, we'll be reading Tessa Bailey, The Queen of Dirty Talk. Sarah's choice is&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/39xK8x3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Asking for Trouble</a>, and a secondary text is the first one of that same series,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2OMZgyn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Protecting What's His</a>.</li><li>Buy&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/shop" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">stickers and buttons from Kelly</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://jordandene.com/collections/romance-sarah-maclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">t-shirts from Jordan</a>.</li><li>We are experimenting with some voice to text&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/transcripts/transcript-s0223-waking-up-with-the-duke-lorraine-heath-breaks-a-lot-of-romance-rules" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">transcripts, so here's the first one for this episode</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/2/11/s0223-waking-up-with-the-duke </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/2/11/s0223-waking-up-with-the-duke]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5e42fc8549f03d0649e07594</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 12 Feb 2020 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/603b8dd9-24ed-4703-a39d-e862f46b3457/fated-mates-waking-up-with-the-duke-final.mp3" length="73534141" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:12:50</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>23</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>23</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:summary>This week, it’s one of Sarah’s favorites, and by an author Jen has never read! Lorraine Heath is a master of the historical, and this one is near-perfect. It’s complex and nuanced and it has an infidelity plot and THERE IS SO MUCH ANGST!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-603b8dd9-24ed-4703-a39d-e862f46b3457.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S02.22: Sarah&apos;s on Deadline AMA</title><itunes:title>Sarah&apos;s on Deadline AMA</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We promised we’d get to the rest of our Holiday AMA questions eventually, and Sarah’s on deadline, so this seemed like the perfect week to do it! Join us for a freewheeling hour during which Sarah cannot remember Tessa Thompson’s name, we talk about how much we’d like to meet Sandra Brown, and how romance really does have something for everyone, including an entire series about romance during power outages.</p><p>Also, we forgot to mention that Tuesday was Derek Craven Day! Lots of fun was had by all goofballs who joined us on the Internet to celebrate, and Lisa Kleypas herself even got involved! If you haven’t read <a href="https://amzn.to/37Y8eAB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Dreaming of You</em></a>, you can get it for $2.99 right now in ebook! Also, do not miss this incredible <a href="https://twitter.com/BGSU_PopCultLib/status/1224755574287433728" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Craven Day thread on Twitter</a> from Steve Ammindown and the Browne Pop Culture Library. And if you want Derek Craven t-shirts? <a href="https://www.teepublic.com/t-shirt/7834770-derek-craven-would-never" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Those exist now</a>!</p><p>Next week, the book is in and we’re back in business! Lorraine Heath’s <em>Waking Up With the Duke</em> is our next read—a book that blooded Sarah. Get it<em> </em>at <a href="https://amzn.to/2ReCfWR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/waking-up-with-the-duke-lorraine-heath/1100050545?ean=9780062022455" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/waking-up-with-the-duke/id421967388?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/waking-up-with-the-duke" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>.</p><p><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/2/4/s0222-february-ama" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Full Show Notes @ FATEDMATES.NET</strong></a></p><p><strong>- Question 1:</strong> Weird but true: the more specific the request, the more likely we are to come up with a recommendation. So if you just need "enemies to lovers" and you've already read <a href="https://amzn.to/2ts6Y9J" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Her Best Worst Mistake,</a> or "friends to lovers" and you've already read <a href="https://amzn.to/2OHlsdx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scoring Off the Field</a>, then you just need to google it.</p><p><strong>- Question 2:</strong> Who are we fancasting? These beautiful people: Nikolaj Coster-Waldau, Henry Cavill, Tessa Thompson, and Tom Hardy. Also, listening to <a href="https://youtu.be/pkqqs0iEWTA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Henry Cavill</a> and <a href="https://youtu.be/y5X3gLwvrRI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tom Hardy</a> grunt is one of our favorite things.</p><p><strong>- Question 3</strong>: Who do we want to have lunch or tea with? Kresley Cole, obviously! Sarah said Joanna Lindsey. Jen says Julie Garwood. We'd both love to meet Sandra Brown. Jen still can't believe the people she's met, and hopes she was <a href="https://youtu.be/lOgbxRJikiM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">cool like Yolanda</a>.</p><p><strong>- Question 4:</strong> Do we have recommendation for lesbian and f/f romance? Is it more difficult to find? Check out <a href="https://www.boldstrokesbooks.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bold Strokes Books</a>. strands of f/f, and others have different roots. We will keep looking for some history of f/f romance and link to them if we find one. But in the meantime, <a href="https://loandbehold.substack.com/p/the-invisible-lesbian-in-young-adult" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">YA author, critic, and expert Malinda Lo wrote about "The Invisible Lesbian" in YA</a>, and it's right on point and worth your time. But we do have lots of great f/f romances that we love in the photo array below.</p><p><strong>- Question 5: </strong>What about steampunk? Is that ever coming back? We don't know! But all we can do is recommend these ones we do know. Sorry!</p><p><strong>- Question 6:</strong> What is like Harry Potter for grown-ups? <a href="https://amzn.to/31oGZg0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Burn For Me</a> by Illona Andrews (Jen also liked the Kate Daniels series). That's it. That's the answer.</p><p><strong>- Question 7: </strong>Books with power outages? Read this Naima Simone series called Blackout Billionares.</p><p><strong>- Question 8:</strong> How to get started with reviewing and NetGalley? You should look at lists that big reviewing clearinghouses make--<a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/features/2020-preview-romance-fiction-look-new-year/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kirkus</a> (Jen writes that one!), Booklist, and <a href="https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/new-titles/adult-announcements/article/81915-spring-2020-announcements-romance-erotica.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">PW</a>. Just trying to look at some of these lists will give you a sense of what books will be coming out. <a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/p/2020-r.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Book Queen is keeping a list of 2020 new releaes</a>. But <a href="https://bookish.netgalley.com/exclusive-interviews/01/2020/netgalley-tips-publicist/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Estelle from Forever Romance wrote a great piece about how to get started with NetGalley</a>.</p><p><strong>- Question 9:</strong> Looking for hardcore enemies to lovers with kids in the mix. Jen recommends Wait For It by Molly O'Keefe. Lord of Scoundrels is great for this, too!</p><p><strong>- Quesiton 10: </strong>Books that made us literally laugh out loud. Jen recommends I Think I Might Love You by Christina C Jones. Sarah recommends It Takes Two by Jenny Holiday. Christina has a huge backlist, and Jenny's newest book, <a href="https://amzn.to/2RY9SwA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mermaid Inn</a>, came out last week.</p><p><strong>- Question 11:</strong> Looking for books with a heist plot and polyamory. Jen thinks Katrina Jackson has cornered the market on this request and we have all been blessed by it.</p><p><strong>- Quesiton 12:</strong> A question if there are any romances with a Muslim hero and heroine with on-page sex. Jen couldn't think of any, but asked author Farah Heron. Farah also couldn't think of one, but we do recommend her book The Chai Factor.</p><p><strong>- Quesiton 13:</strong> Jackie from Elyria Ohio (where Jen went to high school!) is looking for historical with a murder and a twist. We recommend Kelly Bowen and Sarah's book No Good Duke Goes Unpunished.</p><p><strong>- Quesiton 14:</strong> Sarah is looking for books with virgin heroes--but hot!</p><p><strong>- Question 15:</strong> A book with a grovel so unconvincing that the character has to do it again. Oh, we have suggestions but also you should check out <a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/post/rombklove-day-3-groveling" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen's treatise on groveling</a>.</p><p><strong>- Quesiton 16: </strong>What are some museums we love? Sarah talked about these in England: <a href="https://www.museumoflondon.org.uk/museum-london" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Museum of London</a>, <a href="https://foundlingmuseum.org.uk/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Foundling Museum</a>, <a href="https://www.soane.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Soane's Museum</a>, and <a href="https://www.bl.uk/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The British Library</a>. She also loves <a href="https://www.museumofsex.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Museum of Sex</a> in New York, and the <a href="https://www.gardnermuseum.org/organization/theft#gref" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Isabella Gardner Museum</a> in Boston. Jen doesn't research, but in Chicago, she recommends <a href="https://www.artic.edu/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Art Institute</a> and the <a href="http://nationalmuseumofmexicanart.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">National Museum of Mexican Art.</a> If you're ever in Cleveland, the <a href="https://www.rockhall.com/exhibits" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rock &amp; Roll Hall of Fame</a> is so cool, and in Houston, check out the most meditative place Jen has ever been, <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/23/magazine/the-rothko-chapel.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Rothko Chapel.</a>(when this aired in Feb 2020, the chapel was temporarily closed for renovations! <a href="http://www.rothkochapel.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Please check the website</a>).</p><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/2/4/s0222-february-ama </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We promised we’d get to the rest of our Holiday AMA questions eventually, and Sarah’s on deadline, so this seemed like the perfect week to do it! Join us for a freewheeling hour during which Sarah cannot remember Tessa Thompson’s name, we talk about how much we’d like to meet Sandra Brown, and how romance really does have something for everyone, including an entire series about romance during power outages.</p><p>Also, we forgot to mention that Tuesday was Derek Craven Day! Lots of fun was had by all goofballs who joined us on the Internet to celebrate, and Lisa Kleypas herself even got involved! If you haven’t read <a href="https://amzn.to/37Y8eAB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Dreaming of You</em></a>, you can get it for $2.99 right now in ebook! Also, do not miss this incredible <a href="https://twitter.com/BGSU_PopCultLib/status/1224755574287433728" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Craven Day thread on Twitter</a> from Steve Ammindown and the Browne Pop Culture Library. And if you want Derek Craven t-shirts? <a href="https://www.teepublic.com/t-shirt/7834770-derek-craven-would-never" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Those exist now</a>!</p><p>Next week, the book is in and we’re back in business! Lorraine Heath’s <em>Waking Up With the Duke</em> is our next read—a book that blooded Sarah. Get it<em> </em>at <a href="https://amzn.to/2ReCfWR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/waking-up-with-the-duke-lorraine-heath/1100050545?ean=9780062022455" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/waking-up-with-the-duke/id421967388?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/waking-up-with-the-duke" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>.</p><p><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/2/4/s0222-february-ama" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Full Show Notes @ FATEDMATES.NET</strong></a></p><p><strong>- Question 1:</strong> Weird but true: the more specific the request, the more likely we are to come up with a recommendation. So if you just need "enemies to lovers" and you've already read <a href="https://amzn.to/2ts6Y9J" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Her Best Worst Mistake,</a> or "friends to lovers" and you've already read <a href="https://amzn.to/2OHlsdx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scoring Off the Field</a>, then you just need to google it.</p><p><strong>- Question 2:</strong> Who are we fancasting? These beautiful people: Nikolaj Coster-Waldau, Henry Cavill, Tessa Thompson, and Tom Hardy. Also, listening to <a href="https://youtu.be/pkqqs0iEWTA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Henry Cavill</a> and <a href="https://youtu.be/y5X3gLwvrRI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tom Hardy</a> grunt is one of our favorite things.</p><p><strong>- Question 3</strong>: Who do we want to have lunch or tea with? Kresley Cole, obviously! Sarah said Joanna Lindsey. Jen says Julie Garwood. We'd both love to meet Sandra Brown. Jen still can't believe the people she's met, and hopes she was <a href="https://youtu.be/lOgbxRJikiM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">cool like Yolanda</a>.</p><p><strong>- Question 4:</strong> Do we have recommendation for lesbian and f/f romance? Is it more difficult to find? Check out <a href="https://www.boldstrokesbooks.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bold Strokes Books</a>. strands of f/f, and others have different roots. We will keep looking for some history of f/f romance and link to them if we find one. But in the meantime, <a href="https://loandbehold.substack.com/p/the-invisible-lesbian-in-young-adult" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">YA author, critic, and expert Malinda Lo wrote about "The Invisible Lesbian" in YA</a>, and it's right on point and worth your time. But we do have lots of great f/f romances that we love in the photo array below.</p><p><strong>- Question 5: </strong>What about steampunk? Is that ever coming back? We don't know! But all we can do is recommend these ones we do know. Sorry!</p><p><strong>- Question 6:</strong> What is like Harry Potter for grown-ups? <a href="https://amzn.to/31oGZg0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Burn For Me</a> by Illona Andrews (Jen also liked the Kate Daniels series). That's it. That's the answer.</p><p><strong>- Question 7: </strong>Books with power outages? Read this Naima Simone series called Blackout Billionares.</p><p><strong>- Question 8:</strong> How to get started with reviewing and NetGalley? You should look at lists that big reviewing clearinghouses make--<a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/features/2020-preview-romance-fiction-look-new-year/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kirkus</a> (Jen writes that one!), Booklist, and <a href="https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/new-titles/adult-announcements/article/81915-spring-2020-announcements-romance-erotica.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">PW</a>. Just trying to look at some of these lists will give you a sense of what books will be coming out. <a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/p/2020-r.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Book Queen is keeping a list of 2020 new releaes</a>. But <a href="https://bookish.netgalley.com/exclusive-interviews/01/2020/netgalley-tips-publicist/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Estelle from Forever Romance wrote a great piece about how to get started with NetGalley</a>.</p><p><strong>- Question 9:</strong> Looking for hardcore enemies to lovers with kids in the mix. Jen recommends Wait For It by Molly O'Keefe. Lord of Scoundrels is great for this, too!</p><p><strong>- Quesiton 10: </strong>Books that made us literally laugh out loud. Jen recommends I Think I Might Love You by Christina C Jones. Sarah recommends It Takes Two by Jenny Holiday. Christina has a huge backlist, and Jenny's newest book, <a href="https://amzn.to/2RY9SwA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mermaid Inn</a>, came out last week.</p><p><strong>- Question 11:</strong> Looking for books with a heist plot and polyamory. Jen thinks Katrina Jackson has cornered the market on this request and we have all been blessed by it.</p><p><strong>- Quesiton 12:</strong> A question if there are any romances with a Muslim hero and heroine with on-page sex. Jen couldn't think of any, but asked author Farah Heron. Farah also couldn't think of one, but we do recommend her book The Chai Factor.</p><p><strong>- Quesiton 13:</strong> Jackie from Elyria Ohio (where Jen went to high school!) is looking for historical with a murder and a twist. We recommend Kelly Bowen and Sarah's book No Good Duke Goes Unpunished.</p><p><strong>- Quesiton 14:</strong> Sarah is looking for books with virgin heroes--but hot!</p><p><strong>- Question 15:</strong> A book with a grovel so unconvincing that the character has to do it again. Oh, we have suggestions but also you should check out <a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/post/rombklove-day-3-groveling" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen's treatise on groveling</a>.</p><p><strong>- Quesiton 16: </strong>What are some museums we love? Sarah talked about these in England: <a href="https://www.museumoflondon.org.uk/museum-london" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Museum of London</a>, <a href="https://foundlingmuseum.org.uk/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Foundling Museum</a>, <a href="https://www.soane.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Soane's Museum</a>, and <a href="https://www.bl.uk/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The British Library</a>. She also loves <a href="https://www.museumofsex.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Museum of Sex</a> in New York, and the <a href="https://www.gardnermuseum.org/organization/theft#gref" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Isabella Gardner Museum</a> in Boston. Jen doesn't research, but in Chicago, she recommends <a href="https://www.artic.edu/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Art Institute</a> and the <a href="http://nationalmuseumofmexicanart.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">National Museum of Mexican Art.</a> If you're ever in Cleveland, the <a href="https://www.rockhall.com/exhibits" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rock &amp; Roll Hall of Fame</a> is so cool, and in Houston, check out the most meditative place Jen has ever been, <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/23/magazine/the-rothko-chapel.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Rothko Chapel.</a>(when this aired in Feb 2020, the chapel was temporarily closed for renovations! <a href="http://www.rothkochapel.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Please check the website</a>).</p><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/2/4/s0222-february-ama </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/2/4/s0222-february-ama]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5e399622e5c7b532f0dc0524</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 05 Feb 2020 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/93f2e653-ab20-48fd-ba38-fe39dcaa322e/fated-mates-another-ama-final-revb.mp3" length="76482135" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:13:05</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>22</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>22</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We promised we’d get to the rest of our Holiday AMA questions eventually, and Sarah’s on deadline, so this seemed like the perfect week to do it! Join us for a freewheeling hour during which Sarah cannot remember Tessa Thompson’s name, we talk about how much we’d like to meet Sandra Brown, and how romance really does have something for everyone, including an entire series about romance during power outages.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-93f2e653-ab20-48fd-ba38-fe39dcaa322e.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S02.21: Old School Category Romance</title><itunes:title>Old School Category Romance</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This one is a RIDE, you guys! We wanted to do something really fun this week—something that would lighten the mood for us and for you. So, strap in, because we’re talking about our favorite Old School Category romances today! We’ve got something for everyone — wolves and dragons and marine biologists and single moms and more wolves!   A word of caution this week — we didn’t reread these books before we recorded, and they’re all published in the 80s and 90s, so tread lightly if you decide to read them…and let us know just how wrong we got the plots! (Just kidding, we’re for sure rereading all of them now). </p><p>Next week was supposed to be the deep dive of Lorraine Heath, but Sarah has a book due, so we’re putting it on hold—but stay tuned, because we’ve definitely got something coming! Waking Up With the Duke will definitely be the next read, though: Get it<em> </em>at <a href="https://amzn.to/2ReCfWR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/waking-up-with-the-duke-lorraine-heath/1100050545?ean=9780062022455" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/waking-up-with-the-duke/id421967388?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/waking-up-with-the-duke" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>If you're looking for a real cool summer sleepaway camp, check out&nbsp;<a href="https://campkupugani.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Camp Kupugani</a>. They'll pick your kid up at O'Hare!</li><li>You can order&nbsp;<a href="https://www.girlscouts.org/en/cookies/all-about-cookies/digital-cookie.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">girl scout cookies online now</a>. Good luck to all of us.</li><li>If you're in Chicago, I guess you could go to&nbsp;<a href="https://navypier.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Navy Pier</a>; But if you're in Peru, you should definitely go to&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nationalgeographic.com/travel/top-10/peru/machu-picchu/secrets/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Machu Picchu</a>.</li><li>That American Dirt story is real wild.&nbsp;<a href="https://tropicsofmeta.com/2019/12/12/pendeja-you-aint-steinbeck-my-bronca-with-fake-ass-social-justice-literature/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">This review</a>&nbsp;by Myriam Gurba is amazing, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vox.com/culture/2020/1/22/21075629/american-dirt-controversy-explained-jeanine-cummins-oprah-flatiron" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vox has you covered with an entire explainer</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://remezcla.com/lists/culture/american-dirt-controversy-books-about-border/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Remezcla has better recommendations</a>&nbsp;for books about the border.</li><li>If you want to know&nbsp;<a href="http://www.loveinpanels.com/prose/newbies-guide-to-category-romance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">what makes something a category romance</a>,&nbsp;<a href="http://www.loveinpanels.com/prose" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love in Panels</a>&nbsp;has a very good explainer. Also,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/features/making-harlequin-romance-cover/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">if you're interested in Harlequin covers now, Jen interviewed Tony Horvath for Kirkus.</a>&nbsp;He's the creative director in charge of all of Harlequin series romance. You can also check out&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/kellyfairclothbooks/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kelly Faircloth's Instagram</a>, where she posts pictures of her favorite old school romance covers.</li><li>Buying old category romances is easy. Check out&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thriftbooks.com/share/?code=%252biRm2ySx9e%252fLzgqQl60tLQ%253d%253d" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ThriftBooks</a>&nbsp;for the best prices and best shipping (Amazon charges for individual items from sellers), but also&nbsp;<a href="https://www.betterworldbooks.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Better World Books</a>. And if you're lucky enough, local thrift stores and used book stores. For more recent&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bookdepot.com/blog/everything-need-know-remainder-marks/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">remaindered books</a>, try&nbsp;<a href="https://bookoutlet.com/Loyalty/Referral?c=url&amp;raf=srNuH8Bh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book Outlet</a>.</li><li>We mentioned so many category series today. Check out this blog by&nbsp;<a href="https://robimes.blogspot.com/2020/01/a-guide-to-category-romance-series-1965.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Steve Imes</a>&nbsp;with all the category series names and dates, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FictionDB</a>&nbsp;for listings of books by series.</li><li><a href="https://sandrabrown.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sandra Brown</a>&nbsp;wrote as Erin St. Claire and also Rachel Ryan. She was an&nbsp;<a href="https://www.huffpost.com/entry/how-i-got-there-sandra-br_b_10109864" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">80s powerhouse</a>&nbsp;who still writes romantic suspense. The book Sarah mentioned was&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/958649.Honor_Bound?from_search=true&amp;qid=HEB823vXwX&amp;rank=2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Honor Bound</a>, but Jen was thinking of a similar book called&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/30369.Hawk_O_Toole_s_Hostage?from_search=true&amp;qid=my1QhPQrDq&amp;rank=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hawk O'Toole's Hostage</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/4E4AQkvl1KU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ope</a>.</li><li>Jen reread and reviewed several of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2017/11/throwback-thursday-double-review-very.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">her first category romances</a>&nbsp;for the Book Queen. The one about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2017/11/throwback-review-pink-satin.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pink Satin</a>&nbsp;compares the book to the&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/36xNNJi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Harvey Weinstein case</a>. It's honestly shocking how little has changed for women in the workplace.</li><li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/307201.White_Satin" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">White Satin</a>&nbsp;was an early Iris Johansen about figure skating, but that author is also for being the book that inspired the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2018/01/who-did-it-better-on-horse.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"Who Did it Better on a Horse"</a>&nbsp;post. And at the end of the episode, Sarah mentions that&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ajc.com/lifestyles/author-iris-johansen-million-mansion-headed-auction/Oepj8rtYUCjMn6cz6wlcoM/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">she had a house for sale</a>&nbsp;if you're on the market, BECAUSE IT'S REALLY A MANSION.</li><li><a href="https://time.com/4062700/hollywood-gender-gap/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brad Pitt is old and still working</a>&nbsp;because of the patriarchy.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Tracks" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Deep Tracks</a>&nbsp;is the name of an XM radio station that plays B sides and less popular songs, which is very on brand for the books in this episode.</li><li>Maybe you'd like to read those goodreads reviews for&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/635856.Regan_Forest" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Lady and the Dragon</a>. And here is the obituary for the author,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/47503106/regan-marie-forest" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Regan Forest</a>.</li><li>Jen loved&nbsp;<a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/author/barbara-boswell~723.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barbara Boswell</a>. She was a fan of the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/series/72602-ramsey-brady" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brady/Ramsey series</a>&nbsp;where a bunch of sisters married a bunch of brothers. And then this one that is&nbsp;<a href="https://archiveofourown.org/works/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&amp;work_search%5Bquery%5D=brady%20bunch" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brady Bunch fanfic</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://rare.us/entertainment-and-culture/whatever-happened-to-the-eight-is-enough-cast/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Eight is enough</a>, I swear! Was this all&nbsp;<a href="https://www.macleans.ca/uncategorized/the-brady-bunch-eight-is-enough-quitters/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Roe v. Wade blowback</a>?</li><li>You actually can still get&nbsp;<a href="https://www.readerservice.com/content/our-books/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Harlequin subscriptions</a>, but the best current Romance subscription is definitely the&nbsp;<a href="https://bawdybookworms.com/bawdy-quickie-monthly-box/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bawdy Bookworms box.</a></li><li>In Demon Lover, the heroine thinks the hero is a&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/06/30/world/smuggling-illegal-immigration-costs.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">coyote</a>, but he's really an undercover DEA agent.&nbsp;<a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/2018/05/habo-blonde-heroine-gets-spanish-nickname/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen asked the Smart Bitches to help her find it in 2018</a>, when it was available as an eBook, but it isn't anymore! All you need to know is that these 80s covers celebrated the&nbsp;<a...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This one is a RIDE, you guys! We wanted to do something really fun this week—something that would lighten the mood for us and for you. So, strap in, because we’re talking about our favorite Old School Category romances today! We’ve got something for everyone — wolves and dragons and marine biologists and single moms and more wolves!   A word of caution this week — we didn’t reread these books before we recorded, and they’re all published in the 80s and 90s, so tread lightly if you decide to read them…and let us know just how wrong we got the plots! (Just kidding, we’re for sure rereading all of them now). </p><p>Next week was supposed to be the deep dive of Lorraine Heath, but Sarah has a book due, so we’re putting it on hold—but stay tuned, because we’ve definitely got something coming! Waking Up With the Duke will definitely be the next read, though: Get it<em> </em>at <a href="https://amzn.to/2ReCfWR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/waking-up-with-the-duke-lorraine-heath/1100050545?ean=9780062022455" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/waking-up-with-the-duke/id421967388?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/waking-up-with-the-duke" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>If you're looking for a real cool summer sleepaway camp, check out&nbsp;<a href="https://campkupugani.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Camp Kupugani</a>. They'll pick your kid up at O'Hare!</li><li>You can order&nbsp;<a href="https://www.girlscouts.org/en/cookies/all-about-cookies/digital-cookie.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">girl scout cookies online now</a>. Good luck to all of us.</li><li>If you're in Chicago, I guess you could go to&nbsp;<a href="https://navypier.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Navy Pier</a>; But if you're in Peru, you should definitely go to&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nationalgeographic.com/travel/top-10/peru/machu-picchu/secrets/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Machu Picchu</a>.</li><li>That American Dirt story is real wild.&nbsp;<a href="https://tropicsofmeta.com/2019/12/12/pendeja-you-aint-steinbeck-my-bronca-with-fake-ass-social-justice-literature/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">This review</a>&nbsp;by Myriam Gurba is amazing, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vox.com/culture/2020/1/22/21075629/american-dirt-controversy-explained-jeanine-cummins-oprah-flatiron" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vox has you covered with an entire explainer</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://remezcla.com/lists/culture/american-dirt-controversy-books-about-border/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Remezcla has better recommendations</a>&nbsp;for books about the border.</li><li>If you want to know&nbsp;<a href="http://www.loveinpanels.com/prose/newbies-guide-to-category-romance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">what makes something a category romance</a>,&nbsp;<a href="http://www.loveinpanels.com/prose" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love in Panels</a>&nbsp;has a very good explainer. Also,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/features/making-harlequin-romance-cover/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">if you're interested in Harlequin covers now, Jen interviewed Tony Horvath for Kirkus.</a>&nbsp;He's the creative director in charge of all of Harlequin series romance. You can also check out&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/kellyfairclothbooks/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kelly Faircloth's Instagram</a>, where she posts pictures of her favorite old school romance covers.</li><li>Buying old category romances is easy. Check out&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thriftbooks.com/share/?code=%252biRm2ySx9e%252fLzgqQl60tLQ%253d%253d" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ThriftBooks</a>&nbsp;for the best prices and best shipping (Amazon charges for individual items from sellers), but also&nbsp;<a href="https://www.betterworldbooks.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Better World Books</a>. And if you're lucky enough, local thrift stores and used book stores. For more recent&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bookdepot.com/blog/everything-need-know-remainder-marks/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">remaindered books</a>, try&nbsp;<a href="https://bookoutlet.com/Loyalty/Referral?c=url&amp;raf=srNuH8Bh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book Outlet</a>.</li><li>We mentioned so many category series today. Check out this blog by&nbsp;<a href="https://robimes.blogspot.com/2020/01/a-guide-to-category-romance-series-1965.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Steve Imes</a>&nbsp;with all the category series names and dates, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FictionDB</a>&nbsp;for listings of books by series.</li><li><a href="https://sandrabrown.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sandra Brown</a>&nbsp;wrote as Erin St. Claire and also Rachel Ryan. She was an&nbsp;<a href="https://www.huffpost.com/entry/how-i-got-there-sandra-br_b_10109864" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">80s powerhouse</a>&nbsp;who still writes romantic suspense. The book Sarah mentioned was&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/958649.Honor_Bound?from_search=true&amp;qid=HEB823vXwX&amp;rank=2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Honor Bound</a>, but Jen was thinking of a similar book called&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/30369.Hawk_O_Toole_s_Hostage?from_search=true&amp;qid=my1QhPQrDq&amp;rank=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hawk O'Toole's Hostage</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/4E4AQkvl1KU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ope</a>.</li><li>Jen reread and reviewed several of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2017/11/throwback-thursday-double-review-very.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">her first category romances</a>&nbsp;for the Book Queen. The one about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2017/11/throwback-review-pink-satin.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pink Satin</a>&nbsp;compares the book to the&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/36xNNJi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Harvey Weinstein case</a>. It's honestly shocking how little has changed for women in the workplace.</li><li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/307201.White_Satin" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">White Satin</a>&nbsp;was an early Iris Johansen about figure skating, but that author is also for being the book that inspired the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2018/01/who-did-it-better-on-horse.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"Who Did it Better on a Horse"</a>&nbsp;post. And at the end of the episode, Sarah mentions that&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ajc.com/lifestyles/author-iris-johansen-million-mansion-headed-auction/Oepj8rtYUCjMn6cz6wlcoM/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">she had a house for sale</a>&nbsp;if you're on the market, BECAUSE IT'S REALLY A MANSION.</li><li><a href="https://time.com/4062700/hollywood-gender-gap/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brad Pitt is old and still working</a>&nbsp;because of the patriarchy.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Tracks" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Deep Tracks</a>&nbsp;is the name of an XM radio station that plays B sides and less popular songs, which is very on brand for the books in this episode.</li><li>Maybe you'd like to read those goodreads reviews for&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/635856.Regan_Forest" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Lady and the Dragon</a>. And here is the obituary for the author,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/47503106/regan-marie-forest" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Regan Forest</a>.</li><li>Jen loved&nbsp;<a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/author/barbara-boswell~723.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barbara Boswell</a>. She was a fan of the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/series/72602-ramsey-brady" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brady/Ramsey series</a>&nbsp;where a bunch of sisters married a bunch of brothers. And then this one that is&nbsp;<a href="https://archiveofourown.org/works/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&amp;work_search%5Bquery%5D=brady%20bunch" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brady Bunch fanfic</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://rare.us/entertainment-and-culture/whatever-happened-to-the-eight-is-enough-cast/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Eight is enough</a>, I swear! Was this all&nbsp;<a href="https://www.macleans.ca/uncategorized/the-brady-bunch-eight-is-enough-quitters/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Roe v. Wade blowback</a>?</li><li>You actually can still get&nbsp;<a href="https://www.readerservice.com/content/our-books/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Harlequin subscriptions</a>, but the best current Romance subscription is definitely the&nbsp;<a href="https://bawdybookworms.com/bawdy-quickie-monthly-box/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bawdy Bookworms box.</a></li><li>In Demon Lover, the heroine thinks the hero is a&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/06/30/world/smuggling-illegal-immigration-costs.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">coyote</a>, but he's really an undercover DEA agent.&nbsp;<a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/2018/05/habo-blonde-heroine-gets-spanish-nickname/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen asked the Smart Bitches to help her find it in 2018</a>, when it was available as an eBook, but it isn't anymore! All you need to know is that these 80s covers celebrated the&nbsp;<a href="https://beardoholic.com/tom-selleck-mustache/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tom Selleck mustache</a>&nbsp;in a big way.</li><li>Warrior was last in the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/series/67366-mackenzie-blackthorn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">McKenzie-Blackthorn series</a>&nbsp;by Elizabeth Lowell. Light a candle for Utah, who never got his book. Ao3 needs to get on it! #JusticeForUtah</li><li>Virginity is a construct! Also, here's where&nbsp;<a href="https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/teens/sex/virginity" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the hymen&nbsp;</a>is in case you need to know.</li><li>Sarah's on deadline, so who knows what's going to happen next week. Buy some&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/shop" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">stickers, buttons</a>, or&nbsp;<a href="https://jordandene.com/collections/romance-sarah-maclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">t-shirts</a>&nbsp;to tide yourself over while we figure it out.</li><li>Please check out the photo array below for books we referenced. You may remember that we recorded an entire episode on category romances with Andie Christopher, but Jen screwed up the recording. By then,&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/10/13/s026-cinnamon-roll-romance-heroes-interstitial-with-andie-christopher" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">we moved on with Andie to cinnamon rolls</a>. But Andie recommended&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2GsUUYV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Driven by Fate by Tessa Bailey</a>, and Jen talked about&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2O5KPp1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Every Road to You by Phyllis Bourne</a>. Sarah proably talked about Hot Touch, but Jen can't really remember...we'll just think of that episode as the one that got away.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/1/27/s0221-old-school-category-romance-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/1/27/s0221-old-school-category-romance-interstitial]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5e2f430c83a2a01c63b4d7e3</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 29 Jan 2020 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/a98d17d7-1abb-4ae0-b3e8-8a8be2e22a66/fated-mates-category-romance-final-reva.mp3" length="82174631" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:20:36</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>21</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>21</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:summary>This one is a RIDE, you guys! We wanted to do something really fun this week—something that would lighten the mood for us and for you. So, strap in, because we’re talking about our favorite Old School Category romances today! We’ve got something for everyone — wolves and dragons and marine biologists and single moms and more wolves! 

A word of caution this week — we didn’t reread these books before we recorded, and they’re all published in the 80s and 90s, so tread lightly if you decide to read them…and let us know just how wrong we got the plots! (Just kidding, we’re for sure rereading all of them now).</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-a98d17d7-1abb-4ae0-b3e8-8a8be2e22a66.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S02.20: Managed by Kristen Callihan: Scottie!!!</title><itunes:title>Managed by Kristen Callihan: Scottie!!!</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Don’t miss a single moment of our 2020 episodes — subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform and like/review the podcast if you’re so inclined!</p><p>In two weeks, we’re reading one of Sarah’s picks, Lorraine Heath’s <a href="https://amzn.to/2ReCfWR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Waking Up With the Duke</em></a>, which was a tough choice because Lorraine is amazing and Sarah wants you to read all of her books. Read <em>Waking Up With the Duke </em>at <a href="https://amzn.to/2ReCfWR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/waking-up-with-the-duke-lorraine-heath/1100050545?ean=9780062022455" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/waking-up-with-the-duke/id421967388?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/waking-up-with-the-duke" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Jen's disappointed with the <a href="https://www.iheart.com/podcast-awards/#packages" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">iHeartRadio Podscast awards</a>. It's an honor just to be nominated, and that didn't even happen! For your consideration: Best Pop Culture Podcast and Best Fiction Podcast! Come on! <a href="https://www.literarydisco.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Literary Disco</a> wasn't even nominated!</li><li>Everyone loved <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/12/31/s0217-pegging-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Pegging episode</a>! Jen found this really <a href="https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/ev55aj/my-first-time-pegging-someone-changed-how-i-think-about-sex" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">interesting article</a> too late for those show notes, but why not drop them here? We don't really think that we <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumping_the_shark" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">jumped the shark</a>. Oh, and any chance to drop the "<a href="about:blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">smashing from the back</a>" rap.</li><li>The 20 minutes Eric cut were about RWA. So just read <a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/features/romance-writers-america-sinking-ship/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen's article for Kirkus instead</a>. Just kidding. We don't really need <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directors_and_officers_liability_insurance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">D &amp; O insurance</a>. Do we? Either way, Eric should stop <a href="https://youtu.be/bUvgC3_15Zg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">harshing our dream mellow.</a></li><li><a href="https://screenrant.com/star-trek-scotty-facts-trivia-montgomery/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scotty</a> vs. <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1218370586281377792" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scottie</a>.</li><li>Our Kristen Callihan origin stories: Sarah recommends Evernight in the Darkest London series, but Jen can't help but think of <a href="https://gizmodo.com/how-iron-mans-arc-reactor-probably-works-1661613682" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tony Stark</a>. Jen wrote about Kristen's book The Hook Up in the <a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2017/10/who-did-it-better-in-library.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Who Did it Better in the Library</a> post.</li><li>Slumpbusters from this week: <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/27/17-the-player" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Player</a> and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/27/16-sweet-ruin" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sweet Ruin</a> for Sarah, and two Sophie Jordan books, <a href="https://amzn.to/2RyI4xq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">While the Duke was Sleeping</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/30ElKXb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Scandal of it All</a>, for Jen. And the shipbuilder book by Holley Trent is called <a href="https://amzn.to/2GaTtho" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lowdown Dirty</a>.</li><li>If you're trying to find the sex scenes in books, <a href="https://twitter.com/JennyNordbak" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jenny Nordbak</a> from the Wicked Wallflowers Podcast has the sure-fire keyword search word: <a href="https://twitter.com/JennyNordbak/status/1145072209808912385" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">thrust</a>.</li><li>The kind of <a href="https://money.cnn.com/gallery/luxury/2018/01/08/airplane-beds/index.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">super fancy first class</a> where the seats turn into beds looks pretty great. Recently, we saw this happen in the movie <a href="https://travelupdate.boardingarea.com/crazy-rich-asians-movie-airline/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Crazy Rich Asians</a>.</li><li>Unbuttoning a glove is a huge romantic moment in <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/11/25/s0212-lord-of-scoundrels" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lord of Scoundrels</a> and The Age of Innocence.</li><li>In case you have to <a href="https://narratively.com/confessions-only-woman-rock-star-tour-bus/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">travel with a rock band on a bus</a>, <a href="https://coachwest.com/life-tour-bus-tips-coachwest/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the internet provides useful tips</a>, of course! Jen loves this <a href="https://youtu.be/_qW9wqUI4Lg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">famous tour bus scene from the movie Almost Famous</a>. Also, read <a href="https://amzn.to/2Rax1eO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Daisy Jones and the Six</a>, which uses interview format to tell the story of the rise and fall of a 70s rock band.</li><li>Our Rock Star Romance interstitial was our <em>very first</em> interstitial. It's 20 minutes long, and you can listen to it <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/5/rock-star-romance-interstitial-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here</a>.</li><li>Revision is everything, but <a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/product-page/revisions-are-like" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">it is also very hard</a>.</li><li>Interested in more <a href="https://www.silverpetticoatreview.com/2017/02/09/8-reasons-slow-burn-romance-best/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">slow burn</a> romances? <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/97747.Slow_burn_romance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Goodreads has you covered</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.kerrelynsparks.com/books-loveatstake.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kerrelyn Sparks</a> is the one who told Sarah romance is like a football game.</li><li>If you're worried you have an <a href="https://www.cdc.gov/std/chlamydia/stdfact-chlamydia.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">STI like Chlamydia</a>, please see a doctor. Also, if you have kids, make sure they get <a href="https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/stds-hiv-safer-sex/hpv/should-i-get-hpv-vaccine" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the HPV vaccination</a>.</li><li>Being <a href="https://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-2586-6-realities-working-as-friend-for-hire.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a professional friend</a> is a real job.</li><li>More about <a href="https://www.glaad.org/tags/asexuality" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the A</a> in the LGBTQIA+ spectrum.</li><li>If you're ever in Chicago, you should go to the dining room of the <a href="https://www.chicagoathletichotel.com/restaurants" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chicago Athletic Association</a>, <a href="https://chartier.land/the-drawing-room-lounge-trophies/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">check out the trophies</a>, and play some bocce ball.</li><li>Looking to hang out with us in April? We'll be at <a href="http://www.sarahmaclean.net/sarah-in-person/kiss%20con" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">KissCon</a> and <a href="https://chicagospringfling.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spring Fling</a>.</li><li>Buy <a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/shop" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">buttons and stickers from Kelly</a> and <a href="https://jordandene.com/collections/romance-sarah-maclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">t-shirts from Jordan</a>.</li><li>Next up, <a href="https://amzn.to/2ReCfWR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Waking Up With the Duke</a> by Lorraine Heath, a book that blooded Sarah.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/1/20/s0220-managed-by-kristen-callihan </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don’t miss a single moment of our 2020 episodes — subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform and like/review the podcast if you’re so inclined!</p><p>In two weeks, we’re reading one of Sarah’s picks, Lorraine Heath’s <a href="https://amzn.to/2ReCfWR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Waking Up With the Duke</em></a>, which was a tough choice because Lorraine is amazing and Sarah wants you to read all of her books. Read <em>Waking Up With the Duke </em>at <a href="https://amzn.to/2ReCfWR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/waking-up-with-the-duke-lorraine-heath/1100050545?ean=9780062022455" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/waking-up-with-the-duke/id421967388?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/waking-up-with-the-duke" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Jen's disappointed with the <a href="https://www.iheart.com/podcast-awards/#packages" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">iHeartRadio Podscast awards</a>. It's an honor just to be nominated, and that didn't even happen! For your consideration: Best Pop Culture Podcast and Best Fiction Podcast! Come on! <a href="https://www.literarydisco.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Literary Disco</a> wasn't even nominated!</li><li>Everyone loved <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/12/31/s0217-pegging-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Pegging episode</a>! Jen found this really <a href="https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/ev55aj/my-first-time-pegging-someone-changed-how-i-think-about-sex" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">interesting article</a> too late for those show notes, but why not drop them here? We don't really think that we <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumping_the_shark" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">jumped the shark</a>. Oh, and any chance to drop the "<a href="about:blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">smashing from the back</a>" rap.</li><li>The 20 minutes Eric cut were about RWA. So just read <a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/features/romance-writers-america-sinking-ship/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen's article for Kirkus instead</a>. Just kidding. We don't really need <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directors_and_officers_liability_insurance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">D &amp; O insurance</a>. Do we? Either way, Eric should stop <a href="https://youtu.be/bUvgC3_15Zg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">harshing our dream mellow.</a></li><li><a href="https://screenrant.com/star-trek-scotty-facts-trivia-montgomery/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scotty</a> vs. <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1218370586281377792" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scottie</a>.</li><li>Our Kristen Callihan origin stories: Sarah recommends Evernight in the Darkest London series, but Jen can't help but think of <a href="https://gizmodo.com/how-iron-mans-arc-reactor-probably-works-1661613682" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tony Stark</a>. Jen wrote about Kristen's book The Hook Up in the <a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2017/10/who-did-it-better-in-library.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Who Did it Better in the Library</a> post.</li><li>Slumpbusters from this week: <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/27/17-the-player" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Player</a> and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/27/16-sweet-ruin" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sweet Ruin</a> for Sarah, and two Sophie Jordan books, <a href="https://amzn.to/2RyI4xq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">While the Duke was Sleeping</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/30ElKXb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Scandal of it All</a>, for Jen. And the shipbuilder book by Holley Trent is called <a href="https://amzn.to/2GaTtho" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lowdown Dirty</a>.</li><li>If you're trying to find the sex scenes in books, <a href="https://twitter.com/JennyNordbak" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jenny Nordbak</a> from the Wicked Wallflowers Podcast has the sure-fire keyword search word: <a href="https://twitter.com/JennyNordbak/status/1145072209808912385" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">thrust</a>.</li><li>The kind of <a href="https://money.cnn.com/gallery/luxury/2018/01/08/airplane-beds/index.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">super fancy first class</a> where the seats turn into beds looks pretty great. Recently, we saw this happen in the movie <a href="https://travelupdate.boardingarea.com/crazy-rich-asians-movie-airline/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Crazy Rich Asians</a>.</li><li>Unbuttoning a glove is a huge romantic moment in <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/11/25/s0212-lord-of-scoundrels" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lord of Scoundrels</a> and The Age of Innocence.</li><li>In case you have to <a href="https://narratively.com/confessions-only-woman-rock-star-tour-bus/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">travel with a rock band on a bus</a>, <a href="https://coachwest.com/life-tour-bus-tips-coachwest/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the internet provides useful tips</a>, of course! Jen loves this <a href="https://youtu.be/_qW9wqUI4Lg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">famous tour bus scene from the movie Almost Famous</a>. Also, read <a href="https://amzn.to/2Rax1eO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Daisy Jones and the Six</a>, which uses interview format to tell the story of the rise and fall of a 70s rock band.</li><li>Our Rock Star Romance interstitial was our <em>very first</em> interstitial. It's 20 minutes long, and you can listen to it <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/5/rock-star-romance-interstitial-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here</a>.</li><li>Revision is everything, but <a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/product-page/revisions-are-like" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">it is also very hard</a>.</li><li>Interested in more <a href="https://www.silverpetticoatreview.com/2017/02/09/8-reasons-slow-burn-romance-best/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">slow burn</a> romances? <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/97747.Slow_burn_romance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Goodreads has you covered</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.kerrelynsparks.com/books-loveatstake.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kerrelyn Sparks</a> is the one who told Sarah romance is like a football game.</li><li>If you're worried you have an <a href="https://www.cdc.gov/std/chlamydia/stdfact-chlamydia.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">STI like Chlamydia</a>, please see a doctor. Also, if you have kids, make sure they get <a href="https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/stds-hiv-safer-sex/hpv/should-i-get-hpv-vaccine" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the HPV vaccination</a>.</li><li>Being <a href="https://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-2586-6-realities-working-as-friend-for-hire.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a professional friend</a> is a real job.</li><li>More about <a href="https://www.glaad.org/tags/asexuality" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the A</a> in the LGBTQIA+ spectrum.</li><li>If you're ever in Chicago, you should go to the dining room of the <a href="https://www.chicagoathletichotel.com/restaurants" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chicago Athletic Association</a>, <a href="https://chartier.land/the-drawing-room-lounge-trophies/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">check out the trophies</a>, and play some bocce ball.</li><li>Looking to hang out with us in April? We'll be at <a href="http://www.sarahmaclean.net/sarah-in-person/kiss%20con" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">KissCon</a> and <a href="https://chicagospringfling.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spring Fling</a>.</li><li>Buy <a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/shop" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">buttons and stickers from Kelly</a> and <a href="https://jordandene.com/collections/romance-sarah-maclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">t-shirts from Jordan</a>.</li><li>Next up, <a href="https://amzn.to/2ReCfWR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Waking Up With the Duke</a> by Lorraine Heath, a book that blooded Sarah.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/1/20/s0220-managed-by-kristen-callihan </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/1/20/s0220-managed-by-kristen-callihan]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5e25a622dcc09322ea0c84d2</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2020 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/52f26ea7-c66b-46c1-84e0-3e70e3fb3aae/fated-mates-managed-final.mp3" length="69665932" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:09:13</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>20</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>20</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Scottie!!!!!!! It’s Managed week here at Fated Mates — this is one of Jen’s favorite romances, and we’re talking about it and the next book in Kristen Callihan’s VIP series, Fall. We’re revisiting the rockstar romance and the found family trope, talking about the slow burn, and Jen’s talking about first person narration and not yelling…so it’s a banner episode!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-52f26ea7-c66b-46c1-84e0-3e70e3fb3aae.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S02.19: So You Want to Read a Historical</title><itunes:title>So You Want to Read a Historical</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Don’t miss a single moment of our 2020 episodes — subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform and like/review the podcast if you’re so inclined!</p><p>Next week, we’re talking Kristen Callihan’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3005Aa7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Managed</em></a>, which you may recognize as “SCOTTIE,” which is how Jen refers to it because she loves him so much. We think you’ll love it, too, and if you have time, read the next in the series, <a href="https://amzn.to/36JcEe9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Fall</em></a>, which is one of Sarah’s top 10 romances ever. Read <em>Managed </em>at <a href="https://amzn.to/3005Aa7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/managed-kristen-callihan/1124037490?ean=2940158465680" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/managed/id1129493045?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/managed" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>RWA imploded and it's such a long, complicated story, but <a href="https://www.vox.com/2020/1/10/21055125/rwa-what-happened-resignations-courtney-milan-damon-suede-backstory-2020-ritas-conference" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this article from Vox</a> and <a href="https://www.claireryanauthor.com/blog/2019/12/27/the-implosion-of-the-rwa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this timeline by Claire Ryan</a> are what will catch you up.</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/1RW3nDRmu6k" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Let's start at the very beginning, a very good place to start</a>: there are seven romance subgenres: historical, contemporary, romantic suspense, paranormal, inspirational, erotic romance, and YA.</li><li>When it comes to the grandmother of historicals, don't forget that <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Austen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jane Austen</a> was writing contemporaries.</li><li>Johanna Lindsey died in October, and her family announced it publicly in December. <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1209095021019963398" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The New York Times obituary was trash</a>, so read the <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/johanna-lindsey-master-of-historical-romance-novels-dies-at-67/2019/12/23/bd5e7cca-2590-11ea-ad73-2fd294520e97_story.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Washington Post</a> or <a href="https://ew.com/books/2019/12/23/johanna-lindsey-romance-novelist-dies/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Entertainment Weekly</a> one instead. Check out the Twitter hastag #MyFirstJohanna for people's stories about their first book by Lindsey (<a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1209131730705305600" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">including Sarah's</a>), and maybe listen to our episode on <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/10/7/s025-gentle-rogue" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gentle Rogue</a>.</li><li>Support <a href="https://www.gofundme.com/f/church-organ-in-honor-of-tamara-roybiskie?utm_campaign=p_cp%20share-sheet&amp;utm_medium=copy_link-tip&amp;utm_source=customer" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Farrah Rochon</a> for an organ in her sister's memory. And come this summer, buy her upcoming book <a href="https://amzn.to/3adQgLN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Boyfriend Project.</a></li><li>In <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/8052600-abel-wanted-a-traditional-marriage-with-a-traditional-wife-for" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Born a Crime</a>, Trevor Noah wrote about what his mother said about her second husband wanting to put her in a cage: For a long time I wondered why he ever married a woman like my mom in the first place, as she was the opposite of that in every way. If he wanted a woman to bow to him, there were plenty of girls back in Tzaneen being raised solely for that purpose. The way my mother always explained it, the traditional man wants a woman to be subservient, but he never falls in love with subservient women. He’s attracted to independent women. “He’s like an exotic bird collector,” she said. “He only wants a woman who is free because his dream is to put her in a cage.”</li><li><a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/teach/mary-wollstonecraft-britains-first-feminist/zkpk382" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mary Wollstonecraft</a> is all the evidence you need that feminists have been around for a long time.</li><li>Jen recommends <a href="https://amzn.to/2NtNYOZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">In the Dream House by Carmen Marie Machado</a>, which is about domestic abuse in a queer relationship. The quote from Jose Estaban Munoz is, "When the historian of queer experience attempts to document a queer past, there is often a gatekeeper representing a straight present."</li><li>When talking about <a href="https://amzn.to/2QRmfd7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Doctor's Discretion</a> by EE Ottoman, Sarah is very excited about a book called <a href="https://amzn.to/2FS2FHk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Butchering Art</a> by medical historian Dr. Lindsey Fitzharris, whose <a href="https://www.instagram.com/drlindseyfitzharris/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sometimes very gross Instagram</a> is amazing. <a href="https://www.them.us/story/james-barry-ej-levy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Doctor James Berry</a> was trans man who lived and worked in London in the mid 1800s.</li><li>If you haven't listened to <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/12/9/s0214-indigo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">our episode about Beverly Jenkins's Indigo</a> what are you waiting for?</li><li><a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/corporate/press-releases/introducing-avon-red-new-line-from-leading-womens-fiction-publisher-offers-the-pinnacle-of-sexy-fiction/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Avon Red</a> was a short-lived series, but then again, so was The Red Shoe Diaries. Sarah recommends <a href="https://amzn.to/30j7cMy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">On These Silken Sheets</a> by Sabrina Darby from that series.</li><li><a href="https://www.thewhoresofyore.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Whores of Yore</a> is a great blog, and definitely proves Jen's assertion that as soon as someone invented cameras, someone else wanted to get naked in front of it. Dr. Kate Lister, who founded the site, has a book called <a href="https://amzn.to/2Nqsdja" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Curious History of Sex</a> coming out Feb 2020.</li><li>Next time you are in New York, visit <a href="https://www.museumofsex.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Museum of Sex</a>. Sarah recommends Hallie Rubenhold's The Covent Garden Ladies: Pimp General Jack and the Extraordinary Story of Harris' List (which out of print, but <a href="https://amzn.to/2FPpg7p" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">available in audio</a>, and is the book <a href="https://www.hulu.com/series/harlots-18edbd1f-3e9f-46a0-8dc4-02ff7b1eef63" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Harlots</a> is based on). <a href="https://amzn.to/2tVZ3l9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hallie Rubenhold's The Five</a> is not out of print, and also excellent--it is very not a romance, and about the victims of the Ripper killings.</li><li><a href="http://kjcharleswriter.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">KJ Charles</a> is so ridiculously good. Sarah's favorites are Wanted a Gentleman and Think of England and Jen loves Band Sinister. <a href="http://www.nicola-davidson.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nicola Davidson</a>'s Surrey Sexual Freedom Society series is fantastic. <a href="https://alyssacole.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alyssa Cole</a>'s An Extraordinary Union is amazing. Monica McCarty wrote a historical series that imagines Highlanders as being kind of like Navy SEALs. Sarah talked about one of the books in the series, The Arrow on the <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/1/7/65-scotland-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scotland interstitial</a>. Honestly, we talked about so many authors, so just click on any one of the images in the photo gallery below for some of our favorites by those authors.</li><li>But <a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/shop" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">stickers and buttons from Kelly</a>, <a href="https://jordandene.com/collections/romance-sarah-maclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tees and bags from Jordandene</a>, take our <a href="https://www.instagram.com/stories/highlights/18123181900012231/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">reading challenge</a>, and answer our <a href="https://survey.fatedmates.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">survey</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/1/14/s0219-so-you-want-to-read-a-historical </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen"...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don’t miss a single moment of our 2020 episodes — subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform and like/review the podcast if you’re so inclined!</p><p>Next week, we’re talking Kristen Callihan’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3005Aa7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Managed</em></a>, which you may recognize as “SCOTTIE,” which is how Jen refers to it because she loves him so much. We think you’ll love it, too, and if you have time, read the next in the series, <a href="https://amzn.to/36JcEe9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Fall</em></a>, which is one of Sarah’s top 10 romances ever. Read <em>Managed </em>at <a href="https://amzn.to/3005Aa7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/managed-kristen-callihan/1124037490?ean=2940158465680" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/managed/id1129493045?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/managed" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>RWA imploded and it's such a long, complicated story, but <a href="https://www.vox.com/2020/1/10/21055125/rwa-what-happened-resignations-courtney-milan-damon-suede-backstory-2020-ritas-conference" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this article from Vox</a> and <a href="https://www.claireryanauthor.com/blog/2019/12/27/the-implosion-of-the-rwa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this timeline by Claire Ryan</a> are what will catch you up.</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/1RW3nDRmu6k" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Let's start at the very beginning, a very good place to start</a>: there are seven romance subgenres: historical, contemporary, romantic suspense, paranormal, inspirational, erotic romance, and YA.</li><li>When it comes to the grandmother of historicals, don't forget that <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Austen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jane Austen</a> was writing contemporaries.</li><li>Johanna Lindsey died in October, and her family announced it publicly in December. <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1209095021019963398" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The New York Times obituary was trash</a>, so read the <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/johanna-lindsey-master-of-historical-romance-novels-dies-at-67/2019/12/23/bd5e7cca-2590-11ea-ad73-2fd294520e97_story.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Washington Post</a> or <a href="https://ew.com/books/2019/12/23/johanna-lindsey-romance-novelist-dies/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Entertainment Weekly</a> one instead. Check out the Twitter hastag #MyFirstJohanna for people's stories about their first book by Lindsey (<a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1209131730705305600" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">including Sarah's</a>), and maybe listen to our episode on <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/10/7/s025-gentle-rogue" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gentle Rogue</a>.</li><li>Support <a href="https://www.gofundme.com/f/church-organ-in-honor-of-tamara-roybiskie?utm_campaign=p_cp%20share-sheet&amp;utm_medium=copy_link-tip&amp;utm_source=customer" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Farrah Rochon</a> for an organ in her sister's memory. And come this summer, buy her upcoming book <a href="https://amzn.to/3adQgLN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Boyfriend Project.</a></li><li>In <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/8052600-abel-wanted-a-traditional-marriage-with-a-traditional-wife-for" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Born a Crime</a>, Trevor Noah wrote about what his mother said about her second husband wanting to put her in a cage: For a long time I wondered why he ever married a woman like my mom in the first place, as she was the opposite of that in every way. If he wanted a woman to bow to him, there were plenty of girls back in Tzaneen being raised solely for that purpose. The way my mother always explained it, the traditional man wants a woman to be subservient, but he never falls in love with subservient women. He’s attracted to independent women. “He’s like an exotic bird collector,” she said. “He only wants a woman who is free because his dream is to put her in a cage.”</li><li><a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/teach/mary-wollstonecraft-britains-first-feminist/zkpk382" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mary Wollstonecraft</a> is all the evidence you need that feminists have been around for a long time.</li><li>Jen recommends <a href="https://amzn.to/2NtNYOZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">In the Dream House by Carmen Marie Machado</a>, which is about domestic abuse in a queer relationship. The quote from Jose Estaban Munoz is, "When the historian of queer experience attempts to document a queer past, there is often a gatekeeper representing a straight present."</li><li>When talking about <a href="https://amzn.to/2QRmfd7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Doctor's Discretion</a> by EE Ottoman, Sarah is very excited about a book called <a href="https://amzn.to/2FS2FHk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Butchering Art</a> by medical historian Dr. Lindsey Fitzharris, whose <a href="https://www.instagram.com/drlindseyfitzharris/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sometimes very gross Instagram</a> is amazing. <a href="https://www.them.us/story/james-barry-ej-levy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Doctor James Berry</a> was trans man who lived and worked in London in the mid 1800s.</li><li>If you haven't listened to <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/12/9/s0214-indigo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">our episode about Beverly Jenkins's Indigo</a> what are you waiting for?</li><li><a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/corporate/press-releases/introducing-avon-red-new-line-from-leading-womens-fiction-publisher-offers-the-pinnacle-of-sexy-fiction/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Avon Red</a> was a short-lived series, but then again, so was The Red Shoe Diaries. Sarah recommends <a href="https://amzn.to/30j7cMy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">On These Silken Sheets</a> by Sabrina Darby from that series.</li><li><a href="https://www.thewhoresofyore.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Whores of Yore</a> is a great blog, and definitely proves Jen's assertion that as soon as someone invented cameras, someone else wanted to get naked in front of it. Dr. Kate Lister, who founded the site, has a book called <a href="https://amzn.to/2Nqsdja" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Curious History of Sex</a> coming out Feb 2020.</li><li>Next time you are in New York, visit <a href="https://www.museumofsex.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Museum of Sex</a>. Sarah recommends Hallie Rubenhold's The Covent Garden Ladies: Pimp General Jack and the Extraordinary Story of Harris' List (which out of print, but <a href="https://amzn.to/2FPpg7p" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">available in audio</a>, and is the book <a href="https://www.hulu.com/series/harlots-18edbd1f-3e9f-46a0-8dc4-02ff7b1eef63" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Harlots</a> is based on). <a href="https://amzn.to/2tVZ3l9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hallie Rubenhold's The Five</a> is not out of print, and also excellent--it is very not a romance, and about the victims of the Ripper killings.</li><li><a href="http://kjcharleswriter.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">KJ Charles</a> is so ridiculously good. Sarah's favorites are Wanted a Gentleman and Think of England and Jen loves Band Sinister. <a href="http://www.nicola-davidson.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nicola Davidson</a>'s Surrey Sexual Freedom Society series is fantastic. <a href="https://alyssacole.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alyssa Cole</a>'s An Extraordinary Union is amazing. Monica McCarty wrote a historical series that imagines Highlanders as being kind of like Navy SEALs. Sarah talked about one of the books in the series, The Arrow on the <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/1/7/65-scotland-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scotland interstitial</a>. Honestly, we talked about so many authors, so just click on any one of the images in the photo gallery below for some of our favorites by those authors.</li><li>But <a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/shop" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">stickers and buttons from Kelly</a>, <a href="https://jordandene.com/collections/romance-sarah-maclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tees and bags from Jordandene</a>, take our <a href="https://www.instagram.com/stories/highlights/18123181900012231/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">reading challenge</a>, and answer our <a href="https://survey.fatedmates.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">survey</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/1/14/s0219-so-you-want-to-read-a-historical </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/1/14/s0219-so-you-want-to-read-a-historical]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5e1e1ff76fe98418508a46e9</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 15 Jan 2020 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/3ac02995-dabc-4b0f-8729-76cacb223542/fated-mates-historical-final-reva.mp3" length="58387507" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>57:00</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>19</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>19</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We’re launching a Special Romance Report here at Fated Mates — a series of interstitials introducing readers to the subgenres of Romance (there are seven!) — we’re talking about why they exist, what they’re trying to do, what to expect from them, what might have readers hesitating, and where to start! This week, we’re starting with Sarah’s favorite subgenre — Historicals! We’re talking about why they’re sexy, progressive, feminist, and very not boring.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-3ac02995-dabc-4b0f-8729-76cacb223542.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S02.18: Born in Ice: The One Where the Hero Smokes</title><itunes:title>Born in Ice: The One Where The Hero Smokes</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Don’t miss a single moment of our 2020 episodes — subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform and like/review the podcast if you’re so inclined!</p><p>In two weeks, we’ve got another of Jen’s pics, Kristen Callihan’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3005Aa7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Managed</em></a>, which you may recognize as “SCOTTIE,” which is how Jen refers to it because she loves him so much. We think you’ll love it, too, and if you have time, read the next in the series, <a href="https://amzn.to/36JcEe9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Fall</em></a>, which is one of Sarah’s top 10 romances ever. Read <em>Managed </em>at <a href="https://amzn.to/3005Aa7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/managed-kristen-callihan/1124037490?ean=2940158465680" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/managed/id1129493045?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/managed" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Who knows what the RWA situation is when you read this, but as of this podcast, the absolute best source is <a href="https://www.claireryanauthor.com/blog/2019/12/27/the-implosion-of-the-rwa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Claire Ryan's blog</a> post outlining the timeline of events. There was lots of national news coverage, but the "<a href="https://www.npr.org/2020/01/04/793572217/racism-scandal-in-the-romance-writing-industry" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">come on girls</a>" comment was on NPR.</li><li>The 2019 RITA ceremony <a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/features/how-romance-awards-are-changing-and-why-its-about-/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">was amazing</a>, and one that celebrated <a href="https://youtu.be/shL1kNwr0nA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the history of romance</a>. In between when we recorded this episode and when it was released, <a href="https://ew.com/books/2020/01/06/romance-writers-of-america-cancels-rita-awards-contest-racism-controversy/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">RWA cancelled the 2020 RITA awards</a>. When Sarah said "it was a check the organization couldn't cash" she's alluding to a less well-known section of <a href="https://www.pbs.org/wnet/african-americans-many-rivers-to-cross/history/did-mlk-improvise-in-the-dream-speech/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Martin Luther King's</a> <a href="https://www.archives.gov/files/press/exhibits/dream-speech.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"I Have a Dream" speech</a>.</li><li>"La Nora" is how many people refer to Nora Roberts. Sarah mentions some of her earliest category romances, including <a href="https://amzn.to/36yqz6l" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gabriel's Angel</a>, an early Nora from <a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/series/silhouette-intimate-moments~14147.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Silhouette Intimate Moments line</a>. She's also read <a href="https://amzn.to/2tIDm7J" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Naked In Death</a> (Jen hasn't), but Jen loved <a href="https://amzn.to/35sVIa8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Brides quartet</a>, which was probably the last Nora Roberts series she read.</li><li>Sarah said she feels like readers should at least have read ten percent of an author's backlist for full romance competency. Should the "Ten Percent Rule" be a plank of the official Fated Mates Romance Reader platform? Discuss.</li><li>When we talk about Nora Roberts, we used a lot of superhero language: her <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2009/06/22/real-romance-2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">origin story</a>; her <a href="https://www.newsweek.com/queen-hearts-gives-her-throne-172376" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">vanquishing of a villanous and duplicitous plaigiaris</a>t--<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/24/books/nora-roberts-plagiarism.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twice</a>!; <a href="https://www.town.boonsboro.md.us/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">owning her own town</a>; her <a href="https://noraroberts.com/did-you-know/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">complete dominance</a> of the <a href="https://airtable.com/shrpsuycrbo3rlJ4M" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bestseller lists</a>. None of it is hyperbole. It's possible she actually is a superhero.</li><li>Lots of authors made statements about the RWA situaton. Here is <a href="https://fallintothestory.com/my-pov-on-rwa/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nora's</a>, and then <a href="https://www.facebook.com/JRWardBooks/posts/some-of-you-may-be-aware-of-the-rwa-situation-im-not-going-to-go-into-all-the-pa/10157041782658231/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">JR Ward's</a>.</li><li><a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/2011/12/virginity-cliches-in-romance/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Virginity</a> in romance has come a long way. PS. <a href="https://www.hercampus.com/school/western/why-virginity-social-construct" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Virginity is a construct.</a></li><li>Somewhere in the 43 minute mark, Jen says "<a href="https://www.chicagomag.com/city-life/May-2018/Ope-The-All-Purpose-Expression-of-Midwestern-Politeness/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ope</a>," which is the most Midwestern of sayings. If <a href="https://twitter.com/midwestern_ope" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the twitter account Midwest vs. Everybody</a> doesn't make you laugh so hard you wheeze, you're probably part of the everybody.</li><li>Jen isn't the only one who thinks <a href="https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/the-burning-issue-only-villains-smoke-in-hollywood-5347107.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">smoking is a short cut for villainy</a>. She thinks <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cigarette_Smoking_Man" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The X-Files</a> is to blame. Also, PSA: <a href="https://www.nm.org/healthbeat/healthy-tips/emotional-health/vaping-4-risks-for-kids" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">vaping is really bad</a> for you, too.</li><li>Birth control in romance has changed so much, listen to our episode on <a href="https://www.nm.org/healthbeat/healthy-tips/emotional-health/vaping-4-risks-for-kids" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bodily autonomy</a> for more discussion of this topic.</li><li>What does it mean to do something in a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugue_state" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fugue state</a>?</li><li><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/books/technology-is-transforming-our-love-lives--and-our-romance-novels/2019/12/13/bc893c2e-1de1-11ea-b4c1-fd0d91b60d9e_story.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah wrote a column for the Washington Post in December 2019 about how technology is changing romance</a>.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1211303904144695297" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah's big thread</a> about why authors shouldn't be afraid of the problematic content in their old romances.</li><li>If you're interested in a big interesting book about <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/04/world/europe/northern-ireland-troubles.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Troubles</a>, Jen recommends <a href="https://amzn.to/2ZXsFKM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Say Nothing by Patrick Radden Keefe</a>.</li><li>What's a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moorland" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">moor</a> anyways?</li><li>So you wanted to know what it was like to <a href="https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/concorde-flying-what-was-it-like/index.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fly the Concorde</a>?</li><li>Buying a car? Sounds like <a href="https://www.charactour.com/hub/characters/view/Christian-Grey.Fifty-Shades-of-Grey" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">that other Grey.</a> Too bad this Gray was a <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1068686940050993152" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Confederate apologist</a>. Saying the Civil War was about "a way of life" <a href="https://psmag.com/education/of-course-the-civil-war-was-about-slavery-26265" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">instead of slavery</a> is a classic <a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/how-i-learned-about-cult-lost-cause-180968426/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lost Cause myth</a>. As Courtney Milan says, <a href="https://twitter.com/courtneymilan/status/1211307985097646081" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the devil doesn't need your advocacy</a>.</li><li>Buy <a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/shop" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">buttons and stickers</a> from Kelly, <a href="https://jordandene.com/collections/romance-sarah-maclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tshirt and swag</a> from Jordan, particpate in a <a href="https://www.instagram.com/stories/highlights/18123181900012231/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2020 reading challenge</a>with Jen and Sarah, and <a href="https://survey.fatedmates.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fill out this survey </a>for Eric.</li><li>In two weeks, we'll be discussed <a href="https://amzn.to/2T3Mv5u" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Managed</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/2tHDtQV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fall</a> by Kristen Callihan. If you have to pick one, make it Managed. As of this episode airing, <a...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don’t miss a single moment of our 2020 episodes — subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform and like/review the podcast if you’re so inclined!</p><p>In two weeks, we’ve got another of Jen’s pics, Kristen Callihan’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3005Aa7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Managed</em></a>, which you may recognize as “SCOTTIE,” which is how Jen refers to it because she loves him so much. We think you’ll love it, too, and if you have time, read the next in the series, <a href="https://amzn.to/36JcEe9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Fall</em></a>, which is one of Sarah’s top 10 romances ever. Read <em>Managed </em>at <a href="https://amzn.to/3005Aa7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/managed-kristen-callihan/1124037490?ean=2940158465680" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/managed/id1129493045?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/managed" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Who knows what the RWA situation is when you read this, but as of this podcast, the absolute best source is <a href="https://www.claireryanauthor.com/blog/2019/12/27/the-implosion-of-the-rwa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Claire Ryan's blog</a> post outlining the timeline of events. There was lots of national news coverage, but the "<a href="https://www.npr.org/2020/01/04/793572217/racism-scandal-in-the-romance-writing-industry" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">come on girls</a>" comment was on NPR.</li><li>The 2019 RITA ceremony <a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/features/how-romance-awards-are-changing-and-why-its-about-/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">was amazing</a>, and one that celebrated <a href="https://youtu.be/shL1kNwr0nA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the history of romance</a>. In between when we recorded this episode and when it was released, <a href="https://ew.com/books/2020/01/06/romance-writers-of-america-cancels-rita-awards-contest-racism-controversy/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">RWA cancelled the 2020 RITA awards</a>. When Sarah said "it was a check the organization couldn't cash" she's alluding to a less well-known section of <a href="https://www.pbs.org/wnet/african-americans-many-rivers-to-cross/history/did-mlk-improvise-in-the-dream-speech/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Martin Luther King's</a> <a href="https://www.archives.gov/files/press/exhibits/dream-speech.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"I Have a Dream" speech</a>.</li><li>"La Nora" is how many people refer to Nora Roberts. Sarah mentions some of her earliest category romances, including <a href="https://amzn.to/36yqz6l" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gabriel's Angel</a>, an early Nora from <a href="https://www.fictiondb.com/series/silhouette-intimate-moments~14147.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Silhouette Intimate Moments line</a>. She's also read <a href="https://amzn.to/2tIDm7J" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Naked In Death</a> (Jen hasn't), but Jen loved <a href="https://amzn.to/35sVIa8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Brides quartet</a>, which was probably the last Nora Roberts series she read.</li><li>Sarah said she feels like readers should at least have read ten percent of an author's backlist for full romance competency. Should the "Ten Percent Rule" be a plank of the official Fated Mates Romance Reader platform? Discuss.</li><li>When we talk about Nora Roberts, we used a lot of superhero language: her <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2009/06/22/real-romance-2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">origin story</a>; her <a href="https://www.newsweek.com/queen-hearts-gives-her-throne-172376" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">vanquishing of a villanous and duplicitous plaigiaris</a>t--<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/24/books/nora-roberts-plagiarism.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twice</a>!; <a href="https://www.town.boonsboro.md.us/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">owning her own town</a>; her <a href="https://noraroberts.com/did-you-know/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">complete dominance</a> of the <a href="https://airtable.com/shrpsuycrbo3rlJ4M" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bestseller lists</a>. None of it is hyperbole. It's possible she actually is a superhero.</li><li>Lots of authors made statements about the RWA situaton. Here is <a href="https://fallintothestory.com/my-pov-on-rwa/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nora's</a>, and then <a href="https://www.facebook.com/JRWardBooks/posts/some-of-you-may-be-aware-of-the-rwa-situation-im-not-going-to-go-into-all-the-pa/10157041782658231/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">JR Ward's</a>.</li><li><a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/2011/12/virginity-cliches-in-romance/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Virginity</a> in romance has come a long way. PS. <a href="https://www.hercampus.com/school/western/why-virginity-social-construct" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Virginity is a construct.</a></li><li>Somewhere in the 43 minute mark, Jen says "<a href="https://www.chicagomag.com/city-life/May-2018/Ope-The-All-Purpose-Expression-of-Midwestern-Politeness/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ope</a>," which is the most Midwestern of sayings. If <a href="https://twitter.com/midwestern_ope" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the twitter account Midwest vs. Everybody</a> doesn't make you laugh so hard you wheeze, you're probably part of the everybody.</li><li>Jen isn't the only one who thinks <a href="https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/the-burning-issue-only-villains-smoke-in-hollywood-5347107.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">smoking is a short cut for villainy</a>. She thinks <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cigarette_Smoking_Man" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The X-Files</a> is to blame. Also, PSA: <a href="https://www.nm.org/healthbeat/healthy-tips/emotional-health/vaping-4-risks-for-kids" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">vaping is really bad</a> for you, too.</li><li>Birth control in romance has changed so much, listen to our episode on <a href="https://www.nm.org/healthbeat/healthy-tips/emotional-health/vaping-4-risks-for-kids" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bodily autonomy</a> for more discussion of this topic.</li><li>What does it mean to do something in a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugue_state" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fugue state</a>?</li><li><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/books/technology-is-transforming-our-love-lives--and-our-romance-novels/2019/12/13/bc893c2e-1de1-11ea-b4c1-fd0d91b60d9e_story.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah wrote a column for the Washington Post in December 2019 about how technology is changing romance</a>.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1211303904144695297" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah's big thread</a> about why authors shouldn't be afraid of the problematic content in their old romances.</li><li>If you're interested in a big interesting book about <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/04/world/europe/northern-ireland-troubles.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Troubles</a>, Jen recommends <a href="https://amzn.to/2ZXsFKM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Say Nothing by Patrick Radden Keefe</a>.</li><li>What's a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moorland" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">moor</a> anyways?</li><li>So you wanted to know what it was like to <a href="https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/concorde-flying-what-was-it-like/index.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fly the Concorde</a>?</li><li>Buying a car? Sounds like <a href="https://www.charactour.com/hub/characters/view/Christian-Grey.Fifty-Shades-of-Grey" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">that other Grey.</a> Too bad this Gray was a <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1068686940050993152" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Confederate apologist</a>. Saying the Civil War was about "a way of life" <a href="https://psmag.com/education/of-course-the-civil-war-was-about-slavery-26265" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">instead of slavery</a> is a classic <a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/how-i-learned-about-cult-lost-cause-180968426/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lost Cause myth</a>. As Courtney Milan says, <a href="https://twitter.com/courtneymilan/status/1211307985097646081" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the devil doesn't need your advocacy</a>.</li><li>Buy <a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/shop" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">buttons and stickers</a> from Kelly, <a href="https://jordandene.com/collections/romance-sarah-maclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tshirt and swag</a> from Jordan, particpate in a <a href="https://www.instagram.com/stories/highlights/18123181900012231/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2020 reading challenge</a>with Jen and Sarah, and <a href="https://survey.fatedmates.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fill out this survey </a>for Eric.</li><li>In two weeks, we'll be discussed <a href="https://amzn.to/2T3Mv5u" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Managed</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/2tHDtQV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fall</a> by Kristen Callihan. If you have to pick one, make it Managed. As of this episode airing, <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1208551124141260802" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen has tweeted just the word Scottie with a swooning gif</a> at least 11 times.</li><li>Our listener call in book was <a href="https://amzn.to/2ZYJO6K" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Star King</a> by Susan Grant.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/1/7/s0218-born-in-ice </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/1/7/s0218-born-in-ice]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5e1516da76843970514e8698</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 08 Jan 2020 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/400f5647-90dc-4272-ba53-878cd43844ea/fated-mates-noraroberts-final-revb.mp3" length="86046081" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:24:24</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>18</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>18</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:summary>It’s Nora Roberts week at Fated Mates, and we’re reading one of young Jen’s favorite books, Born in Ice, the second in the Born In trilogy, set in Ireland. This week, we’re talking why Nora Roberts is romance royalty, writing writers, the way contemporary romances age, and how weird it is when you read that a hero smokes. Oh, and of course, we’re talking about what the hell is happening in romance right now.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-400f5647-90dc-4272-ba53-878cd43844ea.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S02.17: Pegging Romance with Sierra Simone</title><itunes:title>Pegging Romance with Sierra Simone</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Auspicious beginning, right? Don’t miss a single moment of our 2020 episodes — subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform and like/review the podcast if you’re so inclined!</p><p>We’re back next week (WE PROMISE!) with <em>Born in Ice</em>, by none other than the queen herself, Nora Roberts. Read <em>Born in Ice </em> at <a href="https://amzn.to/2Pw5gLI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/born-in-ice-nora-roberts/1100316778#/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/born-in-ice/id357914515?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/born-in-ice-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9780515116755" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>. </p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Jen misquoted a famous scene in Chinatown; it's actually <a href="https://youtu.be/wnrdetFAo1o" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"my sister and my daughter."</a> Yikes.</li><li>Pretty sure if you're fancasting us into <a href="https://youtu.be/-MQNNzaEt2s" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this clip from Grease about the Pink Ladies</a>, Sierra is Rizzo.</li><li>We've talked a lot about Sierra's books on the podcast, but it was on <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/5/6/125-small-town-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Small Town Romance interstitial</a> that Sarah joked all of Sierra's books take place in Menage County, Kansas.</li><li><a href="https://www.32auctions.com/RomanceforRAICES" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Romance for RAICES auction</a> was the brainchild of <a href="https://twitter.com/cerestheories" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Suzanne</a> from <a href="http://www.loveinpanels.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love in Panels</a> and raised TWENTY THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS! You should definitely support her blog and <a href="https://www.patreon.com/loveinpanels" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon</a> if you can. The <a href="https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2019-11-27/the-new-family-separation-migrant-parents-stranded-on-border-send-kids-across-alone" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">crisis on the border</a> is ongoing and getting worse. Please continue to support romance's teams at <a href="https://www.classy.org/team/247823" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">RAICES</a> and <a href="https://www.theyoungcenter.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Young Center</a>.</li><li>We were going to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rickrolling" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">rickroll</a> you by talking about <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peggy_Sue_Got_Married" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Peggy Sue Got Married</a> and <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show/pirate-romance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">pirate romances</a>, but we're nice that way and didn't. FWIW, Jen still thinks the plot of Peggy Sue Got Married is haunting.</li><li>Sierra is also, of course, the founder, owner, and operator of <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1212092587114467329" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Simone Scale</a>, which does not include <a href="https://youtu.be/Yrw_2Cl0G0Y" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">teabagging</a> even, but has been, because she loves us, updated to include pegging. The image is on our website in show notes.</li><li>We did <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1195705061726412800" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a lot</a> of <a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1184088562058321923" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">research</a> for this episode!</li><li>Everyone wants <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/pegging_unkinked/comments/b5cv5m/any_recommendations_for_a_good_pegging_session/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the right pegging playlist</a>, and of course there's <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6uJ7ATGHRrk3OUEl7cJEdY?si=foElR9WkQky5yRxcyFsdBg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">one on Spotify</a>. What a world! Besides <a href="https://www.mic.com/articles/137861/is-ariana-grande-s-dangerous-woman-actually-an-ode-to-pegging-a-three-part-analysis" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ariana Grande's Dangerous Woman</a>, we offer up for your consideration <a href="https://youtu.be/Bm6kKT5lIvY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Back It Up</a>, <a href="https://genius.com/Peaches-back-it-up-boys-lyrics" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Boys by Peaches</a> and <a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/6L6KUZTSO6lscpKefW7o30?highlight=spotify%3Atrack%3A3mxIXe255fM3KvJ3PCa343" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Behind the Wheel</a> by Depeche Mode.</li><li>Here are some Sierra Simone recommended <a href="https://www.tantusinc.com/collections/dildos/products/silk-small" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">toys </a>and <a href="https://www.myspare.com/product/joque" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">harnesses</a>. She says of the toys, "The small is VERY gently sized and some men may feel more comfortable with a toy is that isn’t a hyper-realistic reproduction of a cock."</li><li>Elia Winters is a Fated Mates favorite, and we want to thank her for her help thinking through the implicatons for <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_essentialism" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">gender essentialism</a> and <a href="http://queerdictionary.blogspot.com/2014/09/definition-of-cisnormativity.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">cisnormativity</a> in this discussion. Buy her books! Her latest <a href="https://amzn.to/2SEJ84K" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Three For All</a> has pegging.</li><li>Sierra mentioned "that law about gas expanding to fill a space" -- well, I phoned Jonathan, a friend who teaches chemistry, and he says that's called entropy or Boyles Law of Kinetic Molecular Theory. <a href="https://youtu.be/8N1BxHgsoOw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more about it here from Professor Dave</a>, a Jonathan-approved chemistry youtube instructor.</li><li><a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/2017/02/go-get-books-samhain-publishing-will-close-february-28-2017/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Samhain</a> and <a href="https://dearauthor.com/ebooks/the-curious-case-of-elloras-cave/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ellora's Cave</a> (which was <a href="https://www.mhpbooks.com/is-amazon-responsible-for-the-elloras-cave-fiasco/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">especially messy</a>) were two earlier and now shuttered publishers of erotic romance.</li><li>Jen Porter wrote <a href="https://twitter.com/JenniferRNN/status/1191119312846819329" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a great twitter thread</a> about erotic romance and character development.</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/ClzJkv3dpY8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">That's What She Said</a>.</li><li>Sarah mentioned "the RITA entry window" and goddamn if that's not <a href="https://www.claireryanauthor.com/blog/2019/12/27/the-implosion-of-the-rwa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a bitter pill to swallow</a> right now. She's sorry.</li><li>A little about what it means to be <a href="https://www.healthline.com/health/allosexual" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">allosexual</a>.</li><li>Check out Roan Parrish's short story <a href="https://bookandmainbites.com/story/42208" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Good Old Fashioned Chanukah Pegging</a>, starring Ginger and Christopher from <a href="https://amzn.to/2F68Jfb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Small Change</a>.</li><li>Everyone knows you need a flared base on your butt plugs, or at least anyone who follows <a href="https://twitter.com/JennyNordbak/status/1066913559395717120" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jenny</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/JennyNordbak/status/1066913775561797632" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nordbak</a> knows.</li><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/20/opinion/sunday/romance-novels-sex-ed.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Romance as sex ed</a> is complicated, but <a href="https://www.scarleteen.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scarlteen</a> is on the job, and <a href="https://www.teenvogue.com/story/anal-sex-what-you-need-to-know" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Teen Vogue</a> would never steer you wrong.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/shutupaida/status/1116548553906774018" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Pegging Song</a> that Adriana sent us from Twitter is amazing, and we want to thank <a href="https://twitter.com/shutupaida" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@shutupaida</a> for being so gracious about letting us play it during the podcast. Also, be sure to watch <a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80117038" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Big Mouth on Netflix</a>, because she's writing for it now!</li><li>I guess <a href="https://twitter.com/katee_robert" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Katee Robert</a> isn't the only one <a href="https://twitter.com/hayleyghoover/status/1211352682742657024" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">staging elaborate scenes with her Barbie dolls</a>.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/35fbdlO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Rogue Anthologies</a> are pretty great and there are quite a few of them.</li><li>Jen had to do a major "<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retroactive_continuity" rel="noopener noreferrer"...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Auspicious beginning, right? Don’t miss a single moment of our 2020 episodes — subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform and like/review the podcast if you’re so inclined!</p><p>We’re back next week (WE PROMISE!) with <em>Born in Ice</em>, by none other than the queen herself, Nora Roberts. Read <em>Born in Ice </em> at <a href="https://amzn.to/2Pw5gLI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/born-in-ice-nora-roberts/1100316778#/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/born-in-ice/id357914515?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/born-in-ice-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9780515116755" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>. </p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Jen misquoted a famous scene in Chinatown; it's actually <a href="https://youtu.be/wnrdetFAo1o" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"my sister and my daughter."</a> Yikes.</li><li>Pretty sure if you're fancasting us into <a href="https://youtu.be/-MQNNzaEt2s" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this clip from Grease about the Pink Ladies</a>, Sierra is Rizzo.</li><li>We've talked a lot about Sierra's books on the podcast, but it was on <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/5/6/125-small-town-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Small Town Romance interstitial</a> that Sarah joked all of Sierra's books take place in Menage County, Kansas.</li><li><a href="https://www.32auctions.com/RomanceforRAICES" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Romance for RAICES auction</a> was the brainchild of <a href="https://twitter.com/cerestheories" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Suzanne</a> from <a href="http://www.loveinpanels.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love in Panels</a> and raised TWENTY THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS! You should definitely support her blog and <a href="https://www.patreon.com/loveinpanels" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon</a> if you can. The <a href="https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2019-11-27/the-new-family-separation-migrant-parents-stranded-on-border-send-kids-across-alone" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">crisis on the border</a> is ongoing and getting worse. Please continue to support romance's teams at <a href="https://www.classy.org/team/247823" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">RAICES</a> and <a href="https://www.theyoungcenter.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Young Center</a>.</li><li>We were going to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rickrolling" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">rickroll</a> you by talking about <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peggy_Sue_Got_Married" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Peggy Sue Got Married</a> and <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show/pirate-romance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">pirate romances</a>, but we're nice that way and didn't. FWIW, Jen still thinks the plot of Peggy Sue Got Married is haunting.</li><li>Sierra is also, of course, the founder, owner, and operator of <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1212092587114467329" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Simone Scale</a>, which does not include <a href="https://youtu.be/Yrw_2Cl0G0Y" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">teabagging</a> even, but has been, because she loves us, updated to include pegging. The image is on our website in show notes.</li><li>We did <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1195705061726412800" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a lot</a> of <a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1184088562058321923" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">research</a> for this episode!</li><li>Everyone wants <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/pegging_unkinked/comments/b5cv5m/any_recommendations_for_a_good_pegging_session/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the right pegging playlist</a>, and of course there's <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6uJ7ATGHRrk3OUEl7cJEdY?si=foElR9WkQky5yRxcyFsdBg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">one on Spotify</a>. What a world! Besides <a href="https://www.mic.com/articles/137861/is-ariana-grande-s-dangerous-woman-actually-an-ode-to-pegging-a-three-part-analysis" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ariana Grande's Dangerous Woman</a>, we offer up for your consideration <a href="https://youtu.be/Bm6kKT5lIvY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Back It Up</a>, <a href="https://genius.com/Peaches-back-it-up-boys-lyrics" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Boys by Peaches</a> and <a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/6L6KUZTSO6lscpKefW7o30?highlight=spotify%3Atrack%3A3mxIXe255fM3KvJ3PCa343" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Behind the Wheel</a> by Depeche Mode.</li><li>Here are some Sierra Simone recommended <a href="https://www.tantusinc.com/collections/dildos/products/silk-small" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">toys </a>and <a href="https://www.myspare.com/product/joque" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">harnesses</a>. She says of the toys, "The small is VERY gently sized and some men may feel more comfortable with a toy is that isn’t a hyper-realistic reproduction of a cock."</li><li>Elia Winters is a Fated Mates favorite, and we want to thank her for her help thinking through the implicatons for <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_essentialism" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">gender essentialism</a> and <a href="http://queerdictionary.blogspot.com/2014/09/definition-of-cisnormativity.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">cisnormativity</a> in this discussion. Buy her books! Her latest <a href="https://amzn.to/2SEJ84K" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Three For All</a> has pegging.</li><li>Sierra mentioned "that law about gas expanding to fill a space" -- well, I phoned Jonathan, a friend who teaches chemistry, and he says that's called entropy or Boyles Law of Kinetic Molecular Theory. <a href="https://youtu.be/8N1BxHgsoOw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn more about it here from Professor Dave</a>, a Jonathan-approved chemistry youtube instructor.</li><li><a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/2017/02/go-get-books-samhain-publishing-will-close-february-28-2017/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Samhain</a> and <a href="https://dearauthor.com/ebooks/the-curious-case-of-elloras-cave/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ellora's Cave</a> (which was <a href="https://www.mhpbooks.com/is-amazon-responsible-for-the-elloras-cave-fiasco/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">especially messy</a>) were two earlier and now shuttered publishers of erotic romance.</li><li>Jen Porter wrote <a href="https://twitter.com/JenniferRNN/status/1191119312846819329" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a great twitter thread</a> about erotic romance and character development.</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/ClzJkv3dpY8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">That's What She Said</a>.</li><li>Sarah mentioned "the RITA entry window" and goddamn if that's not <a href="https://www.claireryanauthor.com/blog/2019/12/27/the-implosion-of-the-rwa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a bitter pill to swallow</a> right now. She's sorry.</li><li>A little about what it means to be <a href="https://www.healthline.com/health/allosexual" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">allosexual</a>.</li><li>Check out Roan Parrish's short story <a href="https://bookandmainbites.com/story/42208" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Good Old Fashioned Chanukah Pegging</a>, starring Ginger and Christopher from <a href="https://amzn.to/2F68Jfb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Small Change</a>.</li><li>Everyone knows you need a flared base on your butt plugs, or at least anyone who follows <a href="https://twitter.com/JennyNordbak/status/1066913559395717120" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jenny</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/JennyNordbak/status/1066913775561797632" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nordbak</a> knows.</li><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/20/opinion/sunday/romance-novels-sex-ed.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Romance as sex ed</a> is complicated, but <a href="https://www.scarleteen.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scarlteen</a> is on the job, and <a href="https://www.teenvogue.com/story/anal-sex-what-you-need-to-know" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Teen Vogue</a> would never steer you wrong.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/shutupaida/status/1116548553906774018" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Pegging Song</a> that Adriana sent us from Twitter is amazing, and we want to thank <a href="https://twitter.com/shutupaida" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@shutupaida</a> for being so gracious about letting us play it during the podcast. Also, be sure to watch <a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80117038" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Big Mouth on Netflix</a>, because she's writing for it now!</li><li>I guess <a href="https://twitter.com/katee_robert" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Katee Robert</a> isn't the only one <a href="https://twitter.com/hayleyghoover/status/1211352682742657024" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">staging elaborate scenes with her Barbie dolls</a>.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/35fbdlO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Rogue Anthologies</a> are pretty great and there are quite a few of them.</li><li>Jen had to do a major "<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retroactive_continuity" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">retcon</a>" on this hero in the Tamsen Parker book in order to read it. It's fine, really.</li><li>Special thanks to our special guest Sierra Simone! You can find her on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/thesierrasimone/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a> or <a href="https://www.facebook.com/TheSierraSimone/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Facebook</a>. Read her New Camelot series, the first is <a href="https://amzn.to/2SSr33B" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">American Queen</a>! She also joined us on our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/4/29/12-macrieve" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MacRieve episode</a>, and we talked about <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/11/4/s029-priest-by-sierra-simone" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Priest</a>, a book that blooded Sarah.</li><li>You can buy a <a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/product-page/pegging-the-patriarchy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pegging the Patriarchy button</a> and other <a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/shop/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Romancelandia buttons at stickers</a> at Jen's shop run by her best friend Kelly, and <a href="https://jordandene.com/collections/romance-sarah-maclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah's t-shirts and swag from Jordandene</a>.</li><li>Next week, we'll be talking about <a href="https://amzn.to/2F5ZsDQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Born in Ice by Nora Roberts</a>! We mean it!</li><li>Much thanks to all the members of the Pegging Cabal for their amazing, generous donation, and for asking us to do this episode: <a href="https://twitter.com/EisReading" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">E is reading</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/HEAorGTFO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jennifer</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/StephBlackhart" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stephanie Blackhart</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/DCRomanceReader" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amanda</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/kinilei1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kini</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/MelindaEdits" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Melinda</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/TempestDarling" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tempest Bonds</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/wanderingeyre" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Michelle Boule</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/p1013" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">JS Lenore</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/EvePendle" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Eve Pendle</a>, and <a href="https://twitter.com/LePetiteGeneral" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Isabel</a>. Give them a follow, or maybe this related account, <a href="https://twitter.com/IsTherePegging" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Is There Pegging</a>? But whatever you do, don't make everyone think that <a href="https://twitter.com/SDGoBlue/status/1192151452845670400" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">something is wrong</a> with <a href="https://twitter.com/EisReading/status/1192119066888212481" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Colin Firth</a>. We hope you enjoyed the episode!</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/12/31/s0217-pegging-romance-interstitial]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5e0b9878ca0564159dc94d58</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jan 2020 05:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/b3fe7ffe-4c74-4bb7-bbcc-f8d051e113ed/pegging-final-revd.mp3" length="72801767" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:10:30</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>17</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>17</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:summary>It’s the start of a new year, Romance is on fire, and we all need a palate cleanser, so we’re doing it right,  with the bonus episode that was an item in the Romance for RAICES auction, hosted by Love in Panels. The bidding didn’t go quite the way we expected but we are honestly thrilled, because we were a tiny part of raising $23,000 for refugee services and immigrant families on the border. Please donate early and often to RAICES and The Young Center. 

Please welcome friend of the pod, Sierra Simone, for our very special Pegging Episode (And thank you to the Pegging Collective for your generous donation, and for being wonderful listeners)!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-b3fe7ffe-4c74-4bb7-bbcc-f8d051e113ed.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S02.16: Christmas Romance Novel Recommendations</title><itunes:title>Christmas Romance Novel Recommendations</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>If you want to give us a gift this year, please like/subscribe to/review the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform!</p><p>We’re back next week with the seasonally appropriate (at least in title) <em>Born in Ice</em>, by none other than the queen herself, Nora Roberts. Read <em>Born in Ice </em>at <a href="https://amzn.to/2Pw5gLI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/born-in-ice-nora-roberts/1100316778#/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/born-in-ice/id357914515?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/born-in-ice-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9780515116755" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Sarah and Jen like a lot of Christmas songs: <a href="https://youtu.be/jHefeA-hyMA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Silver Bells</a>, <a href="https://youtu.be/j9jbdgZidu8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fairy Tale of New York</a>, <a href="https://www.musictimes.com/articles/2828/20131214/12-days-christmas-10-best-versions-yourself-merry-little.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas</a> (which in fact does have <a href="https://www.npr.org/2010/11/19/131412133/the-story-behind-have-yourself-a-merry-little-christmas" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a sad and not-sad version</a>!), <a href="https://youtu.be/uAtUnRkR4n0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen</a>, <a href="https://youtu.be/DhILMcG8VJ0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Carol of the Belles</a>, <a href="https://youtu.be/is4NQkUN3AI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rockin' Round the Christmas Tree</a>, <a href="https://youtu.be/Mk_GmhD053E" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Santa Baby</a>, and <a href="https://youtu.be/YrSEcDiedgc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Baby It's Cold Outside</a> (<a href="https://bigbutterandeggman.tumblr.com/post/154013148291/teachingwithcoffee-its-time-to-bring-an-end-to" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">which just might be super feminist?</a>).</li><li>This year, there's a new Chanukah romance anthology you should check out called <a href="https://amzn.to/2Q9IF86" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Eight Kisses</a>, and Roan Parrish just released a little snippet of a story about Ginger and Christopher from Small Change called <a href="https://bookandmainbites.com/story/42208" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Good, Old Fashioned Chanukah Pegging</a>.</li><li>Oh, you aren't familiar with the <a href="https://www.carinapress.com/shop/category/the-dirty-bits-from-carina-press.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Carina Dirty Bits</a> line? They are quick and dirty--not <a href="https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Thicc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">thicc</a>and dirty. But whatever works. Also, check out <a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2017/10/who-did-it-better-in-library.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen's list of which romances have the best sex in the library.</a></li><li>We have lots of favorite romance librarians, but we love <a href="https://twitter.com/bandherbooks" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bandherbooks</a> and our favorite archivist is <a href="https://twitter.com/stegan" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Steve Ammindown</a> at the <a href="https://www.bgsu.edu/library/pcl.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">BGSU Pop Culture Library</a> in Ohio.</li><li>The Sierra Simone story with the bear is from <a href="https://amzn.to/2EHtu0d" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hot for the Holidays anthology</a>, but she also has a story with Kennedy Ryan in a 2019 release called <a href="https://amzn.to/35Qkt1b" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Christmas in the City</a>.</li><li>Did someone say only one circulation desk? Just kidding. It's <a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/features/one-bed-romance-close-quarters/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">only one bed</a>.</li><li>If you want show notes for last year's holiday episode, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/25-best-friends-sibling-romances-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">click here</a>.</li><li>Our first episode of 2020 will be <a href="https://amzn.to/2Q8dkSW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Born in Ice by Nora Roberts</a>, a book that blooded Jen.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/12/19/s0216-christmas-romance-recommendations </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to give us a gift this year, please like/subscribe to/review the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform!</p><p>We’re back next week with the seasonally appropriate (at least in title) <em>Born in Ice</em>, by none other than the queen herself, Nora Roberts. Read <em>Born in Ice </em>at <a href="https://amzn.to/2Pw5gLI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/born-in-ice-nora-roberts/1100316778#/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/born-in-ice/id357914515?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/born-in-ice-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9780515116755" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Sarah and Jen like a lot of Christmas songs: <a href="https://youtu.be/jHefeA-hyMA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Silver Bells</a>, <a href="https://youtu.be/j9jbdgZidu8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fairy Tale of New York</a>, <a href="https://www.musictimes.com/articles/2828/20131214/12-days-christmas-10-best-versions-yourself-merry-little.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas</a> (which in fact does have <a href="https://www.npr.org/2010/11/19/131412133/the-story-behind-have-yourself-a-merry-little-christmas" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a sad and not-sad version</a>!), <a href="https://youtu.be/uAtUnRkR4n0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen</a>, <a href="https://youtu.be/DhILMcG8VJ0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Carol of the Belles</a>, <a href="https://youtu.be/is4NQkUN3AI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rockin' Round the Christmas Tree</a>, <a href="https://youtu.be/Mk_GmhD053E" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Santa Baby</a>, and <a href="https://youtu.be/YrSEcDiedgc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Baby It's Cold Outside</a> (<a href="https://bigbutterandeggman.tumblr.com/post/154013148291/teachingwithcoffee-its-time-to-bring-an-end-to" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">which just might be super feminist?</a>).</li><li>This year, there's a new Chanukah romance anthology you should check out called <a href="https://amzn.to/2Q9IF86" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Eight Kisses</a>, and Roan Parrish just released a little snippet of a story about Ginger and Christopher from Small Change called <a href="https://bookandmainbites.com/story/42208" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Good, Old Fashioned Chanukah Pegging</a>.</li><li>Oh, you aren't familiar with the <a href="https://www.carinapress.com/shop/category/the-dirty-bits-from-carina-press.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Carina Dirty Bits</a> line? They are quick and dirty--not <a href="https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Thicc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">thicc</a>and dirty. But whatever works. Also, check out <a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2017/10/who-did-it-better-in-library.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen's list of which romances have the best sex in the library.</a></li><li>We have lots of favorite romance librarians, but we love <a href="https://twitter.com/bandherbooks" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bandherbooks</a> and our favorite archivist is <a href="https://twitter.com/stegan" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Steve Ammindown</a> at the <a href="https://www.bgsu.edu/library/pcl.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">BGSU Pop Culture Library</a> in Ohio.</li><li>The Sierra Simone story with the bear is from <a href="https://amzn.to/2EHtu0d" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hot for the Holidays anthology</a>, but she also has a story with Kennedy Ryan in a 2019 release called <a href="https://amzn.to/35Qkt1b" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Christmas in the City</a>.</li><li>Did someone say only one circulation desk? Just kidding. It's <a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/features/one-bed-romance-close-quarters/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">only one bed</a>.</li><li>If you want show notes for last year's holiday episode, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/25-best-friends-sibling-romances-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">click here</a>.</li><li>Our first episode of 2020 will be <a href="https://amzn.to/2Q8dkSW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Born in Ice by Nora Roberts</a>, a book that blooded Jen.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/12/19/s0216-christmas-romance-recommendations </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/12/19/s0216-christmas-romance-recommendations]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5dfc15760540c564f2e981af</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 25 Dec 2019 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/ea3032aa-e8ab-4b79-aa40-772b1290cb71/fated-mates-xmas-final.mp3" length="43767746" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>43:26</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>16</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>16</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Merry Merry Happy Happy Joy Joy…it’s Christmas and we can’t quit you, so we recorded a little stocking stuffer for you—fifteen minutes of Christmas novella recs, along with a far-too-long discussion of our favorite Christmas Songs.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-ea3032aa-e8ab-4b79-aa40-772b1290cb71.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S02.15: Romance Recommendations: Stump Jen &amp; Sarah Part 2</title><itunes:title>Romance Recommendations: Stump Jen &amp; Sarah Part 2</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review!</p><p>Next week, we’re releasing a little stocking stuffer for our Christmas Day episode, but we’re back in business on January 1, with the seasonally appropriate (at least in title) <em>Born in Ice</em>, by none other than the queen herself, Nora Roberts. Read <em>Born in Ice </em>at <a href="https://amzn.to/2Pw5gLI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/born-in-ice-nora-roberts/1100316778#/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/born-in-ice/id357914515?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/born-in-ice-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9780515116755" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>.</p><p><strong>Question 1:</strong> Beth from Milwaukee asked, "I'm going to Iceland in December for my 10th wedding anniversary! I obviously need a book that has snow/cold and using body heat and -ahem- other activities for warmth. Bonus points if a volcano or other geological feature is a part of the story! Sub genre is not important, and yes I'm aware of the <a href="https://amzn.to/36BBA6K" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ice Planet Barbarians</a>."</p><p><strong>Our recommendations:</strong> From the deep recesses of Jen's brain, the only romance she can think of with a volcano, <a href="https://amzn.to/2sEk4zO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Eden Burning by Elizabeth Lowell</a>. And that's from the 80s, so fair warning that it's likely to have problematic elements. When it comes to snuggly, warm, only one bed romances, you just need to use the internet! But <a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/features/one-bed-romance-close-quarters/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen did write a piece about Only One Bed for Kirkus</a>, which you should read. In the meantime, go watch <a href="https://youtu.be/cmQDIne3CLo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joe versus the Volcano</a>, and then talking about Hawaii reminded Sarah of some bananas sounding book by Anne Stuart called <a href="https://amzn.to/2Pv2NSQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tangled Lies</a>. But a few snowy romances: <a href="https://amzn.to/2EswEoI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Beary Christmas Baby</a> by Sasha Devlin or <a href="https://amzn.to/2Epgxbr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">How the Dukes Stole Christmas</a>.</p><p><strong>Question 2:</strong> Emily from Washington D.C. want our opinion aobut "the BEST star crossed lovers trope (it always gets me so good)."</p><p><strong>Our Recommendations: </strong>The reason Sarah thinks that star-crossed lovers have to end up unhappy is Romeo and Juliet, of course. But Jen thinks you should try <a href="https://amzn.to/36GYutm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Luck of the Draw by Kate Clayborn</a> and Sarah recommends <a href="https://amzn.to/2YUXEXa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Long Shot by Kennedy Ryan</a>, but comes with a whole suitcase of content warnings for domestic violence. In the interim, Jen read and recommends <a href="https://amzn.to/2sElMRK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Forbidden Promises by Synithia Williams</a>, the heroine falls in love with her sister's ex-husband! And of course, coming in the summer of 2020 comes <a href="https://amzn.to/2YWiaqx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Daring and the Duke</a> by Sarah, which will also work. But you have to wait!</p><p><strong>Question 3:</strong> Megumi from San Antonio, TX is looking for "a contemporary of someone not Scottish going to Scotland and finding love. (Maybe England but mostly Scotland)"</p><p><strong>Our Recommendations:</strong> Jen lost her mind and said <a href="https://amzn.to/2rLUYPN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Unfixable by Tessa Bailey</a>, but Willa is a heroine who goes to Ireland. She thinks it still counts. Sarah recommends a novella by Sophie Jordan called "In a Stranger's Bed" which was a Goldilocks retelling published in <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Glamour-AL-Jackson/dp/1973722364" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Glamour anthology</a> but which is currently unavailable so come on Sophie, get it together and put your stories up because they are ON FIRE. A few others you can try: <a href="https://amzn.to/2S1uJ2d" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Duke by Default by Alyssa Cole</a>, the <a href="https://amzn.to/2PSiJO8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Under the Kilt series by Melissa Blue</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/35xheLA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Getting Hot with the Scot by Melonie Johnson</a>, and <a href="https://amzn.to/2rWN99R" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ten Days With the Highlander by Hayson Manning</a>. Also, we didn't know what Adriana Herrera had up her sleeve when we recorded, but <a href="https://amzn.to/36I0n9c" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mangos &amp; Misteltoe</a> is ADORABLE, and features to delicious Dominican heroines falling in love on a Scottish Baking Show. It's also a perfect holiday romance!</p><p><strong>Question 4:</strong> Becca wants "a funny contemporary, a true romcom, minimal trauma."</p><p><strong>Our recommendations</strong>: Jen thinks it doesn't exist. Sarah recommends going old school to Jennifer Crusie or Susan Elizabeth Phillips. If it helps, you should know that later this season, we'll be talking about Bet Me and Nobody's Baby But Mine. After we recorded, Sarah realized she should have recommended Christina Lauren, who she adores, and who she believes is one of the few authors writing real RomCom. If you haven't read <a href="https://amzn.to/35wv4xZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Josh &amp; Hazel's Guide to Not Dating</a>, it's a very funny, very romantic friends-to-lovers romance! "What happened to romantic comedy" is an existential question for our time.</p><p><strong>Question 5:</strong> Laurel from NC wants a book that "Has marriage of convenience, preferably historical."</p><p><strong>Our recommendations:</strong> Sarah says Sherry Thomas better than everyone and recommends <a href="https://amzn.to/36MUqro" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ravishing the Heiress</a>. Jen thinks <a href="https://amzn.to/36IZsp2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Duke Buys a Bride</a> by Sophie Jordan might work. Sarah points out that in order to qualify, the marriage has to happen pretty early in the story. The marriage has to be part of the plot the whole time. Once again, there are so many of these we had trouble thinking of them on the spot, but in hindsight, Sarah would like you not to miss Amalie Howard's <a href="https://amzn.to/2Epxpig" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Beast of Beswick</a> or Scarlet Peckham's <a href="https://amzn.to/35zfj9E" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Duke I Tempted</a>. Bonus story from Jen about a Sherry Thomas YA book about Mulan called The Magnolia Sword.</p><p><strong>Question 6:</strong> Cara from Finland wants a book that "Has chosen families strongly included in the plot. Extra points if it's enemies-to-lovers with the heroine's family ready to kick the pining-but-unfortunately-dumbass hero's butt."</p><p><strong>Our recommendations:</strong> Whoa! That's a lot of asks all at once. Just reread IAD, Cara! This is the plot of Sarah's book <a href="https://amzn.to/36HHBPg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Scot in the Dark,</a> so that's a good place to start. Lots of rock star romances have chosen family, try Kristen Callihan's series, and <a href="https://amzn.to/2M4mkHs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Managed</a> will be a book that blooded Jen later this season. It's not linked via heroines, but Elle Kennedy's <a href="https://amzn.to/2YXwsqQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hotter than Ever</a> is bonkers sexy, a MMF menage, and has lots of found Navy SEAL family. In historicals, there are lots of sisterhood/brotherhood books. Try the Wallflowers series by Lisa Kleypas, or Lorraine Heath's <a href="https://amzn.to/2S3PTNg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scoundrels of St. James</a>!</p><p><strong>Question 7:</strong> Krystal from New Jersey is looking for "Childhood friends to lovers - historical! Where the Male is titled and the woman is not!"</p><p><strong>Our recommendations:</strong> There are so many that will work here. Sarah recommends Tessa Dare's first series, the Wanton Dairymaids (!!!) should work, try <a href="https://amzn.to/2YX9kJ2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Godess of the Hunt</a>. After recording, of course, a bunch of books came to mind! Try Kelly Bowen's <a href="https://amzn.to/2RZmhRf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">You're the Earl That I Want</a>, Vanessa Riley's <a href="https://amzn.to/35rXxF7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Butterfly Bride</a>, and Loretta Chase's <a href="https://amzn.to/2EqFYtb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Last Night's Scandal</a>.</p><p><strong>Question 8:</strong> Rosalie from the Chicago suburbs wants books she "can recommend to my 15 year old son. Have thought about Sarina Bowen’s Ivy Years. Although LJ Shen “Sinner of Saints” series is high school, seems too dark/gritty and I think he would not be able to suspend reality for some of the story lines given he is the same age."</p><p><strong>Our Recommendations: </strong>Sarah thinks the Sarina Bowen series you mentioned should work just fine. Adult romances that are adventure stories might work are the <a href="https://amzn.to/2r13ABv"...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review!</p><p>Next week, we’re releasing a little stocking stuffer for our Christmas Day episode, but we’re back in business on January 1, with the seasonally appropriate (at least in title) <em>Born in Ice</em>, by none other than the queen herself, Nora Roberts. Read <em>Born in Ice </em>at <a href="https://amzn.to/2Pw5gLI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/born-in-ice-nora-roberts/1100316778#/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/born-in-ice/id357914515?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/born-in-ice-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9780515116755" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>.</p><p><strong>Question 1:</strong> Beth from Milwaukee asked, "I'm going to Iceland in December for my 10th wedding anniversary! I obviously need a book that has snow/cold and using body heat and -ahem- other activities for warmth. Bonus points if a volcano or other geological feature is a part of the story! Sub genre is not important, and yes I'm aware of the <a href="https://amzn.to/36BBA6K" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ice Planet Barbarians</a>."</p><p><strong>Our recommendations:</strong> From the deep recesses of Jen's brain, the only romance she can think of with a volcano, <a href="https://amzn.to/2sEk4zO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Eden Burning by Elizabeth Lowell</a>. And that's from the 80s, so fair warning that it's likely to have problematic elements. When it comes to snuggly, warm, only one bed romances, you just need to use the internet! But <a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/features/one-bed-romance-close-quarters/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen did write a piece about Only One Bed for Kirkus</a>, which you should read. In the meantime, go watch <a href="https://youtu.be/cmQDIne3CLo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joe versus the Volcano</a>, and then talking about Hawaii reminded Sarah of some bananas sounding book by Anne Stuart called <a href="https://amzn.to/2Pv2NSQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tangled Lies</a>. But a few snowy romances: <a href="https://amzn.to/2EswEoI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Beary Christmas Baby</a> by Sasha Devlin or <a href="https://amzn.to/2Epgxbr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">How the Dukes Stole Christmas</a>.</p><p><strong>Question 2:</strong> Emily from Washington D.C. want our opinion aobut "the BEST star crossed lovers trope (it always gets me so good)."</p><p><strong>Our Recommendations: </strong>The reason Sarah thinks that star-crossed lovers have to end up unhappy is Romeo and Juliet, of course. But Jen thinks you should try <a href="https://amzn.to/36GYutm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Luck of the Draw by Kate Clayborn</a> and Sarah recommends <a href="https://amzn.to/2YUXEXa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Long Shot by Kennedy Ryan</a>, but comes with a whole suitcase of content warnings for domestic violence. In the interim, Jen read and recommends <a href="https://amzn.to/2sElMRK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Forbidden Promises by Synithia Williams</a>, the heroine falls in love with her sister's ex-husband! And of course, coming in the summer of 2020 comes <a href="https://amzn.to/2YWiaqx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Daring and the Duke</a> by Sarah, which will also work. But you have to wait!</p><p><strong>Question 3:</strong> Megumi from San Antonio, TX is looking for "a contemporary of someone not Scottish going to Scotland and finding love. (Maybe England but mostly Scotland)"</p><p><strong>Our Recommendations:</strong> Jen lost her mind and said <a href="https://amzn.to/2rLUYPN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Unfixable by Tessa Bailey</a>, but Willa is a heroine who goes to Ireland. She thinks it still counts. Sarah recommends a novella by Sophie Jordan called "In a Stranger's Bed" which was a Goldilocks retelling published in <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Glamour-AL-Jackson/dp/1973722364" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Glamour anthology</a> but which is currently unavailable so come on Sophie, get it together and put your stories up because they are ON FIRE. A few others you can try: <a href="https://amzn.to/2S1uJ2d" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Duke by Default by Alyssa Cole</a>, the <a href="https://amzn.to/2PSiJO8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Under the Kilt series by Melissa Blue</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/35xheLA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Getting Hot with the Scot by Melonie Johnson</a>, and <a href="https://amzn.to/2rWN99R" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ten Days With the Highlander by Hayson Manning</a>. Also, we didn't know what Adriana Herrera had up her sleeve when we recorded, but <a href="https://amzn.to/36I0n9c" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mangos &amp; Misteltoe</a> is ADORABLE, and features to delicious Dominican heroines falling in love on a Scottish Baking Show. It's also a perfect holiday romance!</p><p><strong>Question 4:</strong> Becca wants "a funny contemporary, a true romcom, minimal trauma."</p><p><strong>Our recommendations</strong>: Jen thinks it doesn't exist. Sarah recommends going old school to Jennifer Crusie or Susan Elizabeth Phillips. If it helps, you should know that later this season, we'll be talking about Bet Me and Nobody's Baby But Mine. After we recorded, Sarah realized she should have recommended Christina Lauren, who she adores, and who she believes is one of the few authors writing real RomCom. If you haven't read <a href="https://amzn.to/35wv4xZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Josh &amp; Hazel's Guide to Not Dating</a>, it's a very funny, very romantic friends-to-lovers romance! "What happened to romantic comedy" is an existential question for our time.</p><p><strong>Question 5:</strong> Laurel from NC wants a book that "Has marriage of convenience, preferably historical."</p><p><strong>Our recommendations:</strong> Sarah says Sherry Thomas better than everyone and recommends <a href="https://amzn.to/36MUqro" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ravishing the Heiress</a>. Jen thinks <a href="https://amzn.to/36IZsp2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Duke Buys a Bride</a> by Sophie Jordan might work. Sarah points out that in order to qualify, the marriage has to happen pretty early in the story. The marriage has to be part of the plot the whole time. Once again, there are so many of these we had trouble thinking of them on the spot, but in hindsight, Sarah would like you not to miss Amalie Howard's <a href="https://amzn.to/2Epxpig" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Beast of Beswick</a> or Scarlet Peckham's <a href="https://amzn.to/35zfj9E" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Duke I Tempted</a>. Bonus story from Jen about a Sherry Thomas YA book about Mulan called The Magnolia Sword.</p><p><strong>Question 6:</strong> Cara from Finland wants a book that "Has chosen families strongly included in the plot. Extra points if it's enemies-to-lovers with the heroine's family ready to kick the pining-but-unfortunately-dumbass hero's butt."</p><p><strong>Our recommendations:</strong> Whoa! That's a lot of asks all at once. Just reread IAD, Cara! This is the plot of Sarah's book <a href="https://amzn.to/36HHBPg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Scot in the Dark,</a> so that's a good place to start. Lots of rock star romances have chosen family, try Kristen Callihan's series, and <a href="https://amzn.to/2M4mkHs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Managed</a> will be a book that blooded Jen later this season. It's not linked via heroines, but Elle Kennedy's <a href="https://amzn.to/2YXwsqQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hotter than Ever</a> is bonkers sexy, a MMF menage, and has lots of found Navy SEAL family. In historicals, there are lots of sisterhood/brotherhood books. Try the Wallflowers series by Lisa Kleypas, or Lorraine Heath's <a href="https://amzn.to/2S3PTNg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scoundrels of St. James</a>!</p><p><strong>Question 7:</strong> Krystal from New Jersey is looking for "Childhood friends to lovers - historical! Where the Male is titled and the woman is not!"</p><p><strong>Our recommendations:</strong> There are so many that will work here. Sarah recommends Tessa Dare's first series, the Wanton Dairymaids (!!!) should work, try <a href="https://amzn.to/2YX9kJ2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Godess of the Hunt</a>. After recording, of course, a bunch of books came to mind! Try Kelly Bowen's <a href="https://amzn.to/2RZmhRf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">You're the Earl That I Want</a>, Vanessa Riley's <a href="https://amzn.to/35rXxF7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Butterfly Bride</a>, and Loretta Chase's <a href="https://amzn.to/2EqFYtb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Last Night's Scandal</a>.</p><p><strong>Question 8:</strong> Rosalie from the Chicago suburbs wants books she "can recommend to my 15 year old son. Have thought about Sarina Bowen’s Ivy Years. Although LJ Shen “Sinner of Saints” series is high school, seems too dark/gritty and I think he would not be able to suspend reality for some of the story lines given he is the same age."</p><p><strong>Our Recommendations: </strong>Sarah thinks the Sarina Bowen series you mentioned should work just fine. Adult romances that are adventure stories might work are the <a href="https://amzn.to/2r13ABv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hidden Legacy series</a>by Ilona Andrews and <a href="https://amzn.to/2rVORZ8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Polaris Rising by Jessie Mihalik</a>. Some actual YA Romance that Jen likes are <a href="https://amzn.to/2rMye27" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Way You Make me Feel</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/2S1eZwj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">I Believe in a Thing Called Love</a>, which are both by Maurene Goo. One of Jen's favorite YA books of all time is called <a href="https://amzn.to/2r0z1Mi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Disreputable History of Frankie Landau-Banks</a>. She also recommneds <a href="https://amzn.to/2M3eLB9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Not if I Save You First by Ally Carter</a>. Some sports romances we recommend are the WAGS series by Naima Simone, especially <a href="https://amzn.to/38KnLoh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scoring Off the Field</a>. Finally, <a href="https://amzn.to/2PToQ4G" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Deal by Elle Kennedy</a> might be a good choice.</p><p><strong>Question 9:</strong> Jemma from Texas is looking for "Found family. Also with lots of good food descriptions. Not necessarily a chef romance though (they stress me out because chefs stay up so late at night; ugh, who does that?)"</p><p><strong>Our recommendations:</strong> This is such a perfect question for Sarah. She recommends the <a href="https://amzn.to/2EsZy84" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recipe for Love series by Louisa Edwards</a>. Another series by the same author is called the <a href="https://amzn.to/2YWfgC8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rising Star Chefs</a>. <a href="https://amzn.to/2qXG6gy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Opposite of You by Rachel Higginson</a> will work. Finally, <a href="https://amzn.to/38Sve51" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">American Dreamer by Adriana Herrera</a>, and a series by <a href="https://amzn.to/35seOxU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sabrina Sol</a>. In hindsight, Sarah basically only recommended books with chefs in them. She's sorry. She has a problem.</p><p><strong>Question 10:</strong> Sara from Albuquerque wants a "Bodyguard trope where the person being guarded does NOT spend the whole book trying to escape the bodyguard because he/she doesn't think there is any danger even though it's incredibly obvious to everyone else. Bonus if the bodyguard character is female."</p><p><strong>Our recommendations: </strong>Jen recommends <a href="https://amzn.to/35wQmvq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sexy/Dangerous</a> (female bodyguard) by Beverly Jenkins, which is fabulous. Nana Malone has a few, one in her royals seris, and another is <a href="https://amzn.to/35wQmvq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bodyguard to the Billionaire</a> (female bodyguard) -- also, <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/27/165-royals-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">listen to Nana talk about Royal Romance on an interstitial last season!</a>. And! Try HelenKay Dimon's <a href="https://amzn.to/35wqAYh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Leave Me Breathless</a>(female bodyguard), Katee Robert's <a href="https://amzn.to/36LYaK0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Thalanian Dynasty series</a> (male bodyguard/MMF menage) and Anna Zabo's <a href="https://amzn.to/2M2Rm2M" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Reverb</a> (trans male bodyguard).</p><p><strong>Question 11:</strong> Molly from Washington has an AMA question about how to organize her Kindle books. She is also looking for a book that "Features a Grumpy/terse older brother’s friend (or older brother of friend) with smart mouth heroine, bonus points for SUPER HOT, some sort of road trip, or problem they have to solve much to their reluctance (trapped on a desert island?) basically Bowen and Mari 😂"</p><p><strong>Our answer: </strong>: <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1080139561739661312" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen wrote a long thread about how she organizes her Kindle</a>, which you should just read on Twitter. But it takes a lot of time, so clear a day to do it! For the grumpy road trip question, Sarah recommends <a href="https://amzn.to/2Py7GL4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Right by Jana Aston</a>. This is the second book in a series, the first one is called Wrong and you don't have to read them in order. Also, don't miss Tessa Bailey's <a href="https://amzn.to/34uCWPk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Staking His Claim</a> or <a href="https://amzn.to/2PT4QPy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fix Her Up</a>! Maybe try Mister McHottie by Pippa Grant. And...have you listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/1/18/55-road-trip-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Road Trip interstitial</a>?</p><p><strong>Question 12: </strong>Hero from Paris, France (not Texas!) wants to know what trope would be, and then some books that take you on a "yellow brick road of emotions."</p><p><strong>Our Recommendations: </strong>We ended up talking about the last books that made us cry. The last book Sarah read that made her cry was <a href="https://amzn.to/36LaDNQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sinner by Sierra Simone</a>. For Jen, it was <a href="https://amzn.to/2PUcGbR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Bride Test by Helen Hoang</a>. Jen also thinks Sarah's books are pretty emotional, so start off with her first, <a href="https://amzn.to/2PWb2pT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nine Rules to Break When Romancing the Rake.</a> Finally, <a href="https://amzn.to/2to04BX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Madness of Lord Ian MacKenzie by Jennifer Ashley</a> or <a href="https://amzn.to/38NSMba" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Escorted by Claire Kent</a>. Also, we're going to read Alexis Hall's <a href="https://amzn.to/2Pvz10b" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">For Real</a> as a book that blooded Sarah, so stay tuned for that!</p><p><strong>Question 13: </strong>Chris from Seattle wants to know how we keep track of all these books! Also, a book that "starts with the main character in jail."</p><p><strong>Our recommendations:</strong> Jen recommends the book <a href="https://amzn.to/2YZ693F" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hard Time by Cara McKenna</a>. The entire Devil's Rock series by Sophie Jordan is fantastic, and the first one is actually called <a href="https://amzn.to/35rEniF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">All Chained Up</a>, but you're going to want to read them all. Sarah recommends <a href="https://amzn.to/38SDr9l" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">My One and Only Duke by Grace Burrowes</a>, which starts with the hero in Newgate. Another historical with the hero in jail is <a href="https://amzn.to/34u6o7V" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Highwayman by Kerrigan Byrne</a>. <a href="https://amzn.to/2PYBNKz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hold by Claire Kent</a> starts with both characters on a prison planet, and there is also an <a href="https://amzn.to/2PZdImI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">entire series of prison planet books by Emmy Chandler</a>.</p><p><strong>Question 14:</strong> Emily wants to know "How do you find time to read as much as you do? I’m a fast reader but can never seem to carve out enough time to read as much as I want." And also is looking for recommendations for books that are "deeply, utterly romantic and swoony and leaves you with a PROFOUND book hangover. Great, sexy banter is a plus!"</p><p><strong>Our recommendations:</strong> Jen doesn't watch TV and Sarah starts a book every day. <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1150220499840098305" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Don't be afraid to DNF!</a> Book wise, Jen knows a book is a real winner if she rereads it, and some of her favorites are <a href="https://amzn.to/2YWeTHE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Everything I Left Unsaid</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/2Z8pRKx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Truth About Him</a> by Molly O'Keefe (famously, this is the only duology/book with a cliffhanger that Jen has ever finished!), <a href="https://amzn.to/36GG6AI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Thirsty by Mia Hopkins</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/35wZ5xF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Never Sweeter by Charlotte Stein</a>, and she also rereads <a href="https://amzn.to/36Ksdl9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a lot of Kresley Cole</a>. Sarah recommends <a href="https://amzn.to/2PTDhpu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Three Little Mistakes by Nikki Sloane</a>.</p><p><strong>Question 15: </strong>Rosa, Daughter of Mexican immigrants living in Oakland, CA wants to know "Is a historical romance where both main characters are people of color. Does this exist?"</p><p><strong>Our recommendations: </strong>Some #OwnVoices historical authors you should check out are <a href="https://amzn.to/2EtPUC8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Beverly Jenkins</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/2RZYbFQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alyssa Cole</a>, <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/14248946.Rebel_Carter" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rebel Carter</a>, <a href="https://vanessariley.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vanessa Riley</a>, and <a href="https://amzn.to/2PUhlKS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Piper Huguley</a>. Lydia San Andres has several historicals with Latinx characters, start with <a href="https://amzn.to/2M5f1zs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Summer for Scandal</a>. Also, check out <a href="https://amzn.to/38OxDh2" rel="noopener...]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/12/14/s0215-romance-recommendations-stump-jen-amp-sarah-part-2]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5df58d801bd90e41f93aa08f</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 18 Dec 2019 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/93412121-98a3-4b1a-92d5-ff3a0c974dbc/fatedmates-ama2-final.mp3" length="67980113" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:04:46</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>15</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>15</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:summary>It’s the second half of our recommendation podcast! We asked you to ask us for recommendations, and thought it would be fun to recommend on the fly—absolutely no preparation! Instead, we met up at Sarah’s apartment and read your questions sight-unseen (thanks to @bestfriendkelly for collecting them!). What ensued is a killer list of romances that you should all read! And if you missed the first half — head back and listen! 

Do not miss the show notes this week, y’all. Really.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-93412121-98a3-4b1a-92d5-ff3a0c974dbc.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S02.14: Indigo: Ride the Beverly Jenkins Train</title><itunes:title>Indigo: Ride the Beverly Jenkins Train</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Get ready for Hester, one of Sarah’s favorite heroines of all time — and Beverly Jenkins’s Indigo, which Jen just read for the first time! We’re talking historical romance, the way romances feel important, sex and intimacy, and all the reasons why everyone should read Beverly Jenkins right now. </p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review!</p><p>Next week, it’s the second half of our book recommendation, stump Sarah &amp; Jen AMA. The following week we’ll release a tiny little stocking stuffer for our Christmas Day episode, but we’re back in business on January 1, with the seasonally appropriate (at least in title) Born in Ice, by none other than the queen herself, Nora Roberts. Read Born in Ice at Amazon, Barnes &amp; Noble, Apple Books, Kobo or your local indie.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Jen now has critic crushes on&nbsp;<a href="http://www.diegobaez.com/about.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Diego Baez</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="http://waltonmuyumba.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Walton Muyumba</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.classicchicagomagazine.com/liz-taylor-never-without-a-book/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Liz Taylor who is kind of a big deal</a>&nbsp;in the book world wrote an amazing book about Chicago's first Mayor Daley called&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/36kY0cb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">American Pharaoh</a>.</li><li>Thanks to the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.lincolnlibrary.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lincoln RI public library</a>&nbsp;for being awesome.</li><li>There's actually a lot of great resources for&nbsp;<a href="https://www.tolerance.org/frameworks/teaching-hard-history/american-slavery" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">how to teach slavery to kids</a>, so&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2018/02/what-kids-are-really-learning-about-slavery/552098/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">do better white teachers</a>.</li><li>Here at Fated Mates, we are&nbsp;<a href="https://www.laquette.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LaQuette</a>&nbsp;stans. Listen to her talk about discomfort and how important it is&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/e4uqBSIuZbQ?t=6104" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">in her RITA speech</a>&nbsp;last year.</li><li>Colson Whitehead's&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/38qNodC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Underground Railroad</a>&nbsp;is an absolute&nbsp;<a href="https://www.csmonitor.com/Books/Book-Reviews/2016/0809/The-Underground-Railroad-tells-a-disturbingly-real-story-of-slavery" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tour de force</a>. Here is a cool site&nbsp;<a href="https://www.arcgis.com/apps/MapJournal/index.html?appid=d9913a3cf7324491bfcb5e12806403fa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">mapping the world</a>&nbsp;of the novel.</li><li>If you don't know about America's&nbsp;<a href="https://eji.org/reports/lynching-in-america/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">history of lynching</a>, you should learn all about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/08/22/bryan-stevenson-and-the-legacy-of-lynching" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bryan Stevenson</a>, who spearheaded the effort to create a&nbsp;<a href="https://museumandmemorial.eji.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lynching Museum</a>. The site&nbsp;<a href="https://withoutsanctuary.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Without Sanctuary</a>&nbsp;preserves the history of these postcards (Content warning on that site for obvious reasons.)</li><li><a href="https://electricliterature.com/how-i-bought-into-gone-with-the-winds-mythology-of-whiteness/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gone with the Wind</a>&nbsp;is an example of the pervasive and terrible&nbsp;<a href="https://www.teenvogue.com/story/the-myth-of-the-happy-slave-explained" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"happy slave"</a>&nbsp;narrative, which appears over and over again. Know and reject this narrative, not just in adult books, but in those&nbsp;<a href="https://www.salon.com/2016/01/18/smiling_slaves_at_story_time_these_picture_books_show_why_we_need_more_diversity_in_publishing_too/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">written for kids</a>. And while I'm on the subject, that goes for&nbsp;<a href="https://crazyquiltedi.blog/2018/07/20/monkey-business/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">picture books about monkeys</a>, too.</li><li>This amazing&nbsp;<a href="http://demographics.virginia.edu/DotMap/index.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">One Dot One Person map</a>&nbsp;is a stark look at how the legacy of slavery and segregation still impacts where Americans live today.</li><li>So you want to read all the books about the LeVeq clan? Start with&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2t7nifP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Through the Storm</a>. and although Sarah said "kids" she meant that Hester and Galen's descendents are the main characters in the&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2LGoKfu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Edge of Midnight</a>&nbsp;series. One of our favorite romance people is When Fumni Met Romance, and you should definitley read her talking about&nbsp;<a href="http://www.literallyblack.com/2019/08/black-romance-matters-when-funmi-met.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">her love for Indigo&nbsp;</a>and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.anacoqui.com/2019/07/guest-post-thank-you-beverly-jenkins-by-funmi-baker.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Beverly Jenkins</a>.</li><li>The internet makes it so much easier to read the stories of enslaved people. Along with the rather amazing (<a href="http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/history/2016/07/can_wpa_slave_narratives_be_trusted_or_are_they_tainted_by_depression_era.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">but imperfect</a>)&nbsp;<a href="https://www.loc.gov/collections/slave-narratives-from-the-federal-writers-project-1936-to-1938/about-this-collection/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">WPA interviews</a>, you can read any number of slave narratives. Remember it was&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-literacy_laws_in_the_United_States" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">illegal to teach slaves to read</a>, so it's an especailly powerful experience to read slave narratives. If you've never read&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2E1kRxs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Frederick Douglass</a>, you should, but Jen also recommends&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2qEa4Gh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Incidents in the Life of a Slave Girl by Harriet Jacobs</a>.</li><li>If you are looking for more resources to learn about American slavery, the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/08/14/magazine/1619-america-slavery.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">New York times 1619 Project</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/08/19/magazine/history-slavery-smithsonian.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">is amazing</a>. If you are a listener, Jen recommends you listen the&nbsp;<a href="https://oyc.yale.edu/history/hist-119" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Yale open course about The Civil War with professor David Blight</a>.</li><li>Jen liked an early 80s novel called&nbsp;<a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Famzn.to%2F2E7Aovq&amp;sa=D&amp;usg=AFQjCNGoCI8BxMpRyYThMqVXMNWQhkJyGQ&amp;ust=1576076537285000" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Chaneysville Incident</a>, which is about a historian trying to discover the truth about how his family's past intersects with a local legend about the Underground Railroad. Here's a&nbsp;<a href="http://southernlitreview.com/authors/allen-mendenhall-interviews-david-bradley.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">recent interview with author David Bradley</a>&nbsp;when the book was converted to an eBook.</li><li>The history of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/the-secret-history-of-the-underground-railroad/384966/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Underground Railroad</a>&nbsp;is part legend, part myth, and part fact. This site talks specifically about&nbsp;<a href="https://detroithistorical.org/learn/encyclopedia-of-detroit/underground-railroad" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the route people fleeing took north through Michigan</a>&nbsp;on the way to Canada.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2PDindN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Night Song</em></a>&nbsp;was the first novel by Beverly Jenkins.</li><li><a href="https://time.com/4039140/fugitive-slace-act-165/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">All about</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/the-abolitionists-fugitive-slave-act/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Fugitive</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.npr.org/2018/11/06/664695634/the-fugitive-slave-act-and-the-struggle-for-america-s-soul" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Slave Act</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://herb.ashp.cuny.edu/items/show/1489" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">why it was so terrible</a>, and how we are&nbsp;<a href="https://prospect.org/civil-rights/echoes-fugitive-slave-act-today-s-immigration-debate/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">seeing echoes</a>&nbsp;of it today.</li><li><a href="https://www.greekmythology.com/Myths/The_Myths/Birth_of_Athena/birth_of_athena.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Zeus and Athena</a>.</li><li>Some interesting sites that talk about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.npr.org/2011/11/07/142094103/indigo-the-indelible-color-that-ruled-the-world" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">indigo...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get ready for Hester, one of Sarah’s favorite heroines of all time — and Beverly Jenkins’s Indigo, which Jen just read for the first time! We’re talking historical romance, the way romances feel important, sex and intimacy, and all the reasons why everyone should read Beverly Jenkins right now. </p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review!</p><p>Next week, it’s the second half of our book recommendation, stump Sarah &amp; Jen AMA. The following week we’ll release a tiny little stocking stuffer for our Christmas Day episode, but we’re back in business on January 1, with the seasonally appropriate (at least in title) Born in Ice, by none other than the queen herself, Nora Roberts. Read Born in Ice at Amazon, Barnes &amp; Noble, Apple Books, Kobo or your local indie.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Jen now has critic crushes on&nbsp;<a href="http://www.diegobaez.com/about.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Diego Baez</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="http://waltonmuyumba.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Walton Muyumba</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.classicchicagomagazine.com/liz-taylor-never-without-a-book/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Liz Taylor who is kind of a big deal</a>&nbsp;in the book world wrote an amazing book about Chicago's first Mayor Daley called&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/36kY0cb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">American Pharaoh</a>.</li><li>Thanks to the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.lincolnlibrary.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lincoln RI public library</a>&nbsp;for being awesome.</li><li>There's actually a lot of great resources for&nbsp;<a href="https://www.tolerance.org/frameworks/teaching-hard-history/american-slavery" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">how to teach slavery to kids</a>, so&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2018/02/what-kids-are-really-learning-about-slavery/552098/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">do better white teachers</a>.</li><li>Here at Fated Mates, we are&nbsp;<a href="https://www.laquette.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LaQuette</a>&nbsp;stans. Listen to her talk about discomfort and how important it is&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/e4uqBSIuZbQ?t=6104" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">in her RITA speech</a>&nbsp;last year.</li><li>Colson Whitehead's&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/38qNodC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Underground Railroad</a>&nbsp;is an absolute&nbsp;<a href="https://www.csmonitor.com/Books/Book-Reviews/2016/0809/The-Underground-Railroad-tells-a-disturbingly-real-story-of-slavery" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tour de force</a>. Here is a cool site&nbsp;<a href="https://www.arcgis.com/apps/MapJournal/index.html?appid=d9913a3cf7324491bfcb5e12806403fa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">mapping the world</a>&nbsp;of the novel.</li><li>If you don't know about America's&nbsp;<a href="https://eji.org/reports/lynching-in-america/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">history of lynching</a>, you should learn all about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/08/22/bryan-stevenson-and-the-legacy-of-lynching" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bryan Stevenson</a>, who spearheaded the effort to create a&nbsp;<a href="https://museumandmemorial.eji.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lynching Museum</a>. The site&nbsp;<a href="https://withoutsanctuary.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Without Sanctuary</a>&nbsp;preserves the history of these postcards (Content warning on that site for obvious reasons.)</li><li><a href="https://electricliterature.com/how-i-bought-into-gone-with-the-winds-mythology-of-whiteness/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gone with the Wind</a>&nbsp;is an example of the pervasive and terrible&nbsp;<a href="https://www.teenvogue.com/story/the-myth-of-the-happy-slave-explained" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"happy slave"</a>&nbsp;narrative, which appears over and over again. Know and reject this narrative, not just in adult books, but in those&nbsp;<a href="https://www.salon.com/2016/01/18/smiling_slaves_at_story_time_these_picture_books_show_why_we_need_more_diversity_in_publishing_too/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">written for kids</a>. And while I'm on the subject, that goes for&nbsp;<a href="https://crazyquiltedi.blog/2018/07/20/monkey-business/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">picture books about monkeys</a>, too.</li><li>This amazing&nbsp;<a href="http://demographics.virginia.edu/DotMap/index.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">One Dot One Person map</a>&nbsp;is a stark look at how the legacy of slavery and segregation still impacts where Americans live today.</li><li>So you want to read all the books about the LeVeq clan? Start with&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2t7nifP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Through the Storm</a>. and although Sarah said "kids" she meant that Hester and Galen's descendents are the main characters in the&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2LGoKfu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Edge of Midnight</a>&nbsp;series. One of our favorite romance people is When Fumni Met Romance, and you should definitley read her talking about&nbsp;<a href="http://www.literallyblack.com/2019/08/black-romance-matters-when-funmi-met.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">her love for Indigo&nbsp;</a>and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.anacoqui.com/2019/07/guest-post-thank-you-beverly-jenkins-by-funmi-baker.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Beverly Jenkins</a>.</li><li>The internet makes it so much easier to read the stories of enslaved people. Along with the rather amazing (<a href="http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/history/2016/07/can_wpa_slave_narratives_be_trusted_or_are_they_tainted_by_depression_era.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">but imperfect</a>)&nbsp;<a href="https://www.loc.gov/collections/slave-narratives-from-the-federal-writers-project-1936-to-1938/about-this-collection/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">WPA interviews</a>, you can read any number of slave narratives. Remember it was&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-literacy_laws_in_the_United_States" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">illegal to teach slaves to read</a>, so it's an especailly powerful experience to read slave narratives. If you've never read&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2E1kRxs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Frederick Douglass</a>, you should, but Jen also recommends&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2qEa4Gh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Incidents in the Life of a Slave Girl by Harriet Jacobs</a>.</li><li>If you are looking for more resources to learn about American slavery, the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/08/14/magazine/1619-america-slavery.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">New York times 1619 Project</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/08/19/magazine/history-slavery-smithsonian.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">is amazing</a>. If you are a listener, Jen recommends you listen the&nbsp;<a href="https://oyc.yale.edu/history/hist-119" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Yale open course about The Civil War with professor David Blight</a>.</li><li>Jen liked an early 80s novel called&nbsp;<a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Famzn.to%2F2E7Aovq&amp;sa=D&amp;usg=AFQjCNGoCI8BxMpRyYThMqVXMNWQhkJyGQ&amp;ust=1576076537285000" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Chaneysville Incident</a>, which is about a historian trying to discover the truth about how his family's past intersects with a local legend about the Underground Railroad. Here's a&nbsp;<a href="http://southernlitreview.com/authors/allen-mendenhall-interviews-david-bradley.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">recent interview with author David Bradley</a>&nbsp;when the book was converted to an eBook.</li><li>The history of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/the-secret-history-of-the-underground-railroad/384966/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Underground Railroad</a>&nbsp;is part legend, part myth, and part fact. This site talks specifically about&nbsp;<a href="https://detroithistorical.org/learn/encyclopedia-of-detroit/underground-railroad" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the route people fleeing took north through Michigan</a>&nbsp;on the way to Canada.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2PDindN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Night Song</em></a>&nbsp;was the first novel by Beverly Jenkins.</li><li><a href="https://time.com/4039140/fugitive-slace-act-165/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">All about</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/the-abolitionists-fugitive-slave-act/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Fugitive</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.npr.org/2018/11/06/664695634/the-fugitive-slave-act-and-the-struggle-for-america-s-soul" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Slave Act</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://herb.ashp.cuny.edu/items/show/1489" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">why it was so terrible</a>, and how we are&nbsp;<a href="https://prospect.org/civil-rights/echoes-fugitive-slave-act-today-s-immigration-debate/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">seeing echoes</a>&nbsp;of it today.</li><li><a href="https://www.greekmythology.com/Myths/The_Myths/Birth_of_Athena/birth_of_athena.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Zeus and Athena</a>.</li><li>Some interesting sites that talk about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.npr.org/2011/11/07/142094103/indigo-the-indelible-color-that-ruled-the-world" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">indigo cultivation</a>&nbsp;and the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ancestry.com/contextux/historicalinsights/indigo-south-carolina" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">role of enslaved people</a>&nbsp;in making the dye. A 2013 book called&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2RJZ0ml" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Red, White, and Black Make Blue</a>&nbsp;discusses the relationship of slavery and indigo production in South Carolina.</li><li>A&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/ladrianaherrera/status/1202014692186710021" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">thread from Adriana Herrera</a>&nbsp;about why historical romance must grapple with how problematic white women upheld slavery.</li><li><a href="https://nccj.org/colorism-0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Colorism</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://time.com/4512430/colorism-in-america/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">is an issue</a>&nbsp;that Beverly Jenkins weaves into Indigo.</li><li>Looking for&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/review/list/66056813?shelf=sex-in-a-carriage" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">more romances with carriage sex</a>?&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/AshDylanLit/status/1150030643990028288" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Of course you are</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/series/61529-blessings" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Blessings series</a>&nbsp;is a contemporary series by Beverly Jenkins that takes place in the town of Henry Adams, KS.</li><li>The Biblical story of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Daniel%206&amp;version=NIV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Daniel and the Lion's Den</a>&nbsp;is why Galen's nickname is The Black Daniel.</li><li><a href="https://bookriot.com/2014/07/09/euphemisms-body-parts-romance-novels-ranking/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sex euphamisms</a>, anyone?</li><li><a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/06/the-myth-of-the-kindly-general-lee/529038/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Robert E. Lee</a>&nbsp;was&nbsp;<a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/diaries-left-behind-confederate-soldiers-reveals-role-enslaved-labor-gettysburg-180972538/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">pretty</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2010/08/we-have-received-provocation-enough/61276/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">terrible</a>.</li><li>Jen's favorite novel by Beverly Jenkins is&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2sa16kH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Forbidden</a>, which was&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bookbub.com/blog/beverly-jenkins-forbidden-tv-show" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">recently optioned for TV</a>! Sarah&nbsp;<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/books/sarah-maclean-picks-the-best-romance-novels-for-february/2016/01/28/6dd64e76-c04f-11e5-83d4-42e3bceea902_story.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">reviewed it for the Washington Post</a>&nbsp;in 2016. Jen has no idea what movie she saw with a character who was passing, but Sarah recommends Nella Larsen's 1929&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2E4Dv7o" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Passing</a>.</li><li>In 2018, they made a&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/OLgzfJppoFY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">movie of Deadly/Sexy</a>. Fun fact,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.essence.com/celebrity/eye-candy-model-and-actor-travis-cure/#151125" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the actor in the movie, Travis Cure, was then the cover model for her next book, Rebel.</a></li><li>The book recommended by Walton Muyumba is called&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2rnUAGZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wayward Lives, Beautiful Experiments</a>.</li><li>Buy Fated Mates buttons from Kelly at&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/shop" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the shop on Jen's site</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://jordandene.com/collections/romance-sarah-maclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah's t-shirts and other swag</a>&nbsp;here.</li><li>Jan 1, 2020, we'll be discussing&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/38tDwQw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Born in Ice by Nora Roberts</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/12/9/s0214-indigo </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/12/9/s0214-indigo]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5deeac9bf9cab80768fd60a1</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2019 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/3890d462-4fd8-4d17-b4f2-0876e3e25dcf/fated-mates-indigo-final-reva.mp3" length="74495128" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:12:03</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>14</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Get ready for Hester, one of Sarah’s favorite heroines of all time — and Beverly Jenkins’s Indigo, which Jen just read for the first time! We’re talking historical romance, the way romances feel important, sex and intimacy, and all the reasons why everyone should read Beverly Jenkins right now.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-3890d462-4fd8-4d17-b4f2-0876e3e25dcf.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S02.13: Best Romance Novels of 2019</title><itunes:title>Best Romance Novels of 2019</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>The rest of the internet is obsessed with best of the year lists, so we’re doing it, too! Jen and Sarah have both chosen five of our favorite reads of the year — or of 13 months, if you’re really counting. Tell us what we’ve forgotten here, on <a href="https://twitter.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/osrbc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Facebook</a> or in comments! </p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review!</p><p>In two weeks, we’re moving across the pond to Beverly Jenkins’s Indigo, with one of Sarah’s favorite heroines ever—Hester Wyatt, Underground Railroad conductor! Read <em>Indigo</em> at <a href="https://amzn.to/35udOci" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/indigo-beverly-jenkins/1102327463?ean=2940013443266" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/indigo/id584318143?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/indigo-5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781495368219" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>.</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>In between our recording and release of this episode, <a href="https://www.kristencallihan.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kristen Callihan</a> did release a new book, <a href="https://amzn.to/2OHuveD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Outmatched</a>, which is cowritten with <a href="https://authorsamanthayoung.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Samantha Young</a>. But don't miss Scottie from <a href="https://amzn.to/2LgrQqq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Managed</a>, who will appear later in season 2 as a book that blooded Jen.</li><li><a href="https://kresleycole.com/books/munro/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Munro</a>. That's it. <a href="https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/thats-it-thats-the-tweet" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">That's the show note</a>.</li><li>Some of the best of 2019 lists from <a href="https://www.bookish.com/articles/the-best-books-we-read-in-2019/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookish</a>, <a href="https://apps.npr.org/best-books/#view=covers&amp;year=2019" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">NPR</a> and <a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/lists/best-romance-novels-2019/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kirkus.</a> Sarah's website has <a href="http://www.sarahmaclean.net/reviews" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">all of her past Best of the Year Lists for the Washington Post</a>. <a href="https://www.amazon.com/b/ref=s9_acss_bw_cg_BOTY19_4a1_w?node=17296235011&amp;pf_rd_i=17296235011&amp;pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&amp;pf_rd_p=b07b9b1f-1ce6-40b9-93ec-1f225bf9865b&amp;pf_rd_r=Q2C0QVFK9NYFWA9JY7Y6&amp;pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-4&amp;pf_rd_t=101" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon also has a best of the year list</a>, but the Goodreads Award list is <a href="https://youtu.be/E3N83-xK_hQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">strange</a>.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2swGjaW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Emma Donoghue's Room</a> was a big literary fiction book back in 2010, and it was on <a href="https://www.emmadonoghue.com/books/novels/room-the-novel.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">all the end of the year lists</a>.</li><li>Jen will be appearing at <a href="https://www.bookcellarinc.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Book Cellar</a> on Dec 7, 2019 if you're looking for something to do. She'll be talking about the best books of the year with other critics.</li><li>Around the same time we recorded this episode, Kini at SmexyBooks wrote this thoughtful piece about <a href="https://smexybooks.com/2019/11/transparency-in-romance-my-thoughts.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">transparency in romance reviewing</a>.</li><li>Kylie Scott's <em>Repeat</em> was also on our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/11/11/s0210-amnesia-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amnesia episode</a>.</li><li><a href="http://lovessweetarrow.com/index.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love's Sweet Arrow</a> is a romance-only bookstore in Chicago's south suburbs.</li><li><a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/quelle_surprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Quelle suprise!</a>.</li><li>Jen also likes <a href="https://rebeccazanetti.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rebecca Zanetti</a>, who also resists romantic suspense that is just "<a href="https://screenrant.com/scariest-woman-peril-movies-ranked/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">women in peril</a>" plots.</li><li><a href="https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/faceoff" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Face/Off</a> is a very goofy movie from the late 90s. So of course they're going to <a href="https://deadline.com/2019/09/face-off-remake-paramount-pictures-john-woo-john-travolta-nicolas-cage-1202729685/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">remake it</a>.</li><li>In this Juno Rushdon series, Jen wants <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1198396482480726016" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the boss's book</a>.</li><li>We're talking about historicals, but we're not talking about <a href="https://amzn.to/2YbEZG8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brazen and the Beast</a> even though Jen wants you to know it's spectacular and you should definitely read it.</li><li>I guess we're singing this episode: Just One Night is a twist on Phil Collins's <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKVq-P3z5Vg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">One More Night</a> in the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxLaO8Xzjsk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Moulin Rouge movie</a> and <a href="https://youtu.be/nqAvFx3NxUM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">All Night Long.</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/JennyNordbak" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jenny Nordbak</a> recommended Dare to Love a Duke to Sarah, and after the <a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/features/can-romance-fiction-have-unreliable-narrators/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">unreliable narrators</a> essay, <a href="https://twitter.com/_AJCousins" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amy Jo Cousins</a>recommended Any Old Diamonds to Jen.</li><li>Who wouldn't want to talk about <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankenstein" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Frankenstein,</a> <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/mary-wollstonecraft-shelley" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shelley</a>, and <a href="https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/wollstonecraft/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wollstonecraft</a>?</li><li>Don't sleep on <a href="https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/gilded-age/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Gilded Age.</a></li><li>Kennedy's <a href="https://amzn.to/2Y80APQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Basketball series</a> is also great. But in The Kingmaker duet, she also tackles the problem of <a href="https://www.csvanw.org/mmiw/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">missing and murdered indiginous women</a> and <a href="https://www.ecowatch.com/native-american-land-grab-2010250967.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">land grabs</a> on Native land. Here is a list of <a href="https://bookriot.com/2018/01/04/native-american-romance-novels/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OwnVoices Native American authors</a> from BookRiot, and <a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/2019/01/the-rec-league-native-american-romance/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">another from Smart Bitches</a>, but Jen specifically recommends <a href="https://amzn.to/2OFPtuv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pamela Sanderson</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/red-hot-chili-peppers-blood-sugar-sex-magik-10-things-you-didnt-know-121474/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blood, Sugar, Sex, Magik.</a></li><li>Jen interviewed <a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/features/robin-lovett/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Robin Lovett</a> for Kirkus. And our friend <a href="https://twitter.com/bandherbooks" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@Bandherbooks</a> was quite taken with the "<a href="https://twitter.com/bandherbooks/status/1134137423242379264" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">space chaise</a>" in this book.</li><li>Jen and Sarah tried so hard to undersatnd the <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/10/13/s026-cinnamon-roll-romance-heroes-interstitial-with-andie-christopher" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">cinnamon roll phenomenon</a>.</li><li>Maybe you want to check out Jen's many amazing Pinterest boards featuring <a href="https://www.pinterest.com/jenreadsromance/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">very specific romance novel cover kinks</a>.</li><li>Looking to buy some swag? You can buy <a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/fated-mates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates buttons</a> from Best Friend Kelly and <a href="https://jordandene.com/collections/romance-sarah-maclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah has an awesome line of romance themed t-shirts and other swag</a> from Jordanene.</li><li>This week, our listener-recomended books are <a...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rest of the internet is obsessed with best of the year lists, so we’re doing it, too! Jen and Sarah have both chosen five of our favorite reads of the year — or of 13 months, if you’re really counting. Tell us what we’ve forgotten here, on <a href="https://twitter.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/osrbc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Facebook</a> or in comments! </p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review!</p><p>In two weeks, we’re moving across the pond to Beverly Jenkins’s Indigo, with one of Sarah’s favorite heroines ever—Hester Wyatt, Underground Railroad conductor! Read <em>Indigo</em> at <a href="https://amzn.to/35udOci" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/indigo-beverly-jenkins/1102327463?ean=2940013443266" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/indigo/id584318143?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/indigo-5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781495368219" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>.</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>In between our recording and release of this episode, <a href="https://www.kristencallihan.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kristen Callihan</a> did release a new book, <a href="https://amzn.to/2OHuveD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Outmatched</a>, which is cowritten with <a href="https://authorsamanthayoung.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Samantha Young</a>. But don't miss Scottie from <a href="https://amzn.to/2LgrQqq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Managed</a>, who will appear later in season 2 as a book that blooded Jen.</li><li><a href="https://kresleycole.com/books/munro/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Munro</a>. That's it. <a href="https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/thats-it-thats-the-tweet" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">That's the show note</a>.</li><li>Some of the best of 2019 lists from <a href="https://www.bookish.com/articles/the-best-books-we-read-in-2019/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookish</a>, <a href="https://apps.npr.org/best-books/#view=covers&amp;year=2019" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">NPR</a> and <a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/lists/best-romance-novels-2019/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kirkus.</a> Sarah's website has <a href="http://www.sarahmaclean.net/reviews" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">all of her past Best of the Year Lists for the Washington Post</a>. <a href="https://www.amazon.com/b/ref=s9_acss_bw_cg_BOTY19_4a1_w?node=17296235011&amp;pf_rd_i=17296235011&amp;pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&amp;pf_rd_p=b07b9b1f-1ce6-40b9-93ec-1f225bf9865b&amp;pf_rd_r=Q2C0QVFK9NYFWA9JY7Y6&amp;pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-4&amp;pf_rd_t=101" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon also has a best of the year list</a>, but the Goodreads Award list is <a href="https://youtu.be/E3N83-xK_hQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">strange</a>.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2swGjaW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Emma Donoghue's Room</a> was a big literary fiction book back in 2010, and it was on <a href="https://www.emmadonoghue.com/books/novels/room-the-novel.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">all the end of the year lists</a>.</li><li>Jen will be appearing at <a href="https://www.bookcellarinc.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Book Cellar</a> on Dec 7, 2019 if you're looking for something to do. She'll be talking about the best books of the year with other critics.</li><li>Around the same time we recorded this episode, Kini at SmexyBooks wrote this thoughtful piece about <a href="https://smexybooks.com/2019/11/transparency-in-romance-my-thoughts.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">transparency in romance reviewing</a>.</li><li>Kylie Scott's <em>Repeat</em> was also on our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/11/11/s0210-amnesia-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amnesia episode</a>.</li><li><a href="http://lovessweetarrow.com/index.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love's Sweet Arrow</a> is a romance-only bookstore in Chicago's south suburbs.</li><li><a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/quelle_surprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Quelle suprise!</a>.</li><li>Jen also likes <a href="https://rebeccazanetti.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rebecca Zanetti</a>, who also resists romantic suspense that is just "<a href="https://screenrant.com/scariest-woman-peril-movies-ranked/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">women in peril</a>" plots.</li><li><a href="https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/faceoff" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Face/Off</a> is a very goofy movie from the late 90s. So of course they're going to <a href="https://deadline.com/2019/09/face-off-remake-paramount-pictures-john-woo-john-travolta-nicolas-cage-1202729685/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">remake it</a>.</li><li>In this Juno Rushdon series, Jen wants <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1198396482480726016" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the boss's book</a>.</li><li>We're talking about historicals, but we're not talking about <a href="https://amzn.to/2YbEZG8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brazen and the Beast</a> even though Jen wants you to know it's spectacular and you should definitely read it.</li><li>I guess we're singing this episode: Just One Night is a twist on Phil Collins's <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKVq-P3z5Vg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">One More Night</a> in the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxLaO8Xzjsk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Moulin Rouge movie</a> and <a href="https://youtu.be/nqAvFx3NxUM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">All Night Long.</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/JennyNordbak" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jenny Nordbak</a> recommended Dare to Love a Duke to Sarah, and after the <a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/features/can-romance-fiction-have-unreliable-narrators/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">unreliable narrators</a> essay, <a href="https://twitter.com/_AJCousins" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amy Jo Cousins</a>recommended Any Old Diamonds to Jen.</li><li>Who wouldn't want to talk about <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankenstein" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Frankenstein,</a> <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/mary-wollstonecraft-shelley" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shelley</a>, and <a href="https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/wollstonecraft/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wollstonecraft</a>?</li><li>Don't sleep on <a href="https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/gilded-age/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Gilded Age.</a></li><li>Kennedy's <a href="https://amzn.to/2Y80APQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Basketball series</a> is also great. But in The Kingmaker duet, she also tackles the problem of <a href="https://www.csvanw.org/mmiw/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">missing and murdered indiginous women</a> and <a href="https://www.ecowatch.com/native-american-land-grab-2010250967.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">land grabs</a> on Native land. Here is a list of <a href="https://bookriot.com/2018/01/04/native-american-romance-novels/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OwnVoices Native American authors</a> from BookRiot, and <a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/2019/01/the-rec-league-native-american-romance/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">another from Smart Bitches</a>, but Jen specifically recommends <a href="https://amzn.to/2OFPtuv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pamela Sanderson</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/red-hot-chili-peppers-blood-sugar-sex-magik-10-things-you-didnt-know-121474/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blood, Sugar, Sex, Magik.</a></li><li>Jen interviewed <a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/features/robin-lovett/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Robin Lovett</a> for Kirkus. And our friend <a href="https://twitter.com/bandherbooks" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@Bandherbooks</a> was quite taken with the "<a href="https://twitter.com/bandherbooks/status/1134137423242379264" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">space chaise</a>" in this book.</li><li>Jen and Sarah tried so hard to undersatnd the <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/10/13/s026-cinnamon-roll-romance-heroes-interstitial-with-andie-christopher" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">cinnamon roll phenomenon</a>.</li><li>Maybe you want to check out Jen's many amazing Pinterest boards featuring <a href="https://www.pinterest.com/jenreadsromance/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">very specific romance novel cover kinks</a>.</li><li>Looking to buy some swag? You can buy <a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/fated-mates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates buttons</a> from Best Friend Kelly and <a href="https://jordandene.com/collections/romance-sarah-maclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah has an awesome line of romance themed t-shirts and other swag</a> from Jordanene.</li><li>This week, our listener-recomended books are <a href="https://amzn.to/2P3WFPS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">When He Was Wicked</a> by Julia Quinn and <a href="https://amzn.to/33NAG5f" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Truly, Madly, Yours</a> by Rachel Gibson.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/12/1/s0213-sarah-and-jens-best-romance-novels-of-2019 </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/12/1/s0213-sarah-and-jens-best-romance-novels-of-2019]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5de42d6ec9c3e5269409ff9c</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/e6050989-5122-4d62-b719-1fa5acd06299/best-of-2019-2000.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 04 Dec 2019 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/ff637094-83ca-4d6b-8795-d466238e4712/fated-mates-best-of-2019-final-revg.mp3" length="79208942" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:17:11</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>13</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:summary>The rest of the internet is obsessed with best of the year lists, so we’re doing it, too! Jen and Sarah have both chosen five of our favorite reads of the year — or of 13 months, if you’re really counting. Tell us what we’ve forgotten here, on Twitter, on Instagram, on Facebook or in comments!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-ff637094-83ca-4d6b-8795-d466238e4712.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S02.12: Lord of Scoundrels: Reel or be Reeled</title><itunes:title>Lord of Scoundrels: Reel or be Reeled</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It may be Thanksgiving week in the US, but that didn’t stop us from recording a monster episode about one of our (and all of Romance’s) favorite books of all time! It’s <em>Lord of Scoundrels</em> week! We’re talking gloves and fans and prologues and why Jessica is one of the best heroines of all time! All that, and Sarah is on a rant about Byron…so don’t miss it!</p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review!</p><p>In two weeks, we’re moving across the pond to Beverly Jenkins’s Indigo, with one of Sarah’s favorite heroines ever—Hester Wyatt, Underground Railroad conductor! Read <em>Indigo</em> at <a href="https://amzn.to/35udOci" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/indigo-beverly-jenkins/1102327463?ean=2940013443266" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/indigo/id584318143?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/indigo-5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781495368219" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>.  </p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Lord of Scoundrels has its own&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_of_Scoundrels" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wikipedia page</a>, which in case you're curious, is kind of unusual.</li><li>Just look at this gorgeous&nbsp;<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/RomanceBooks/comments/1f0ztgr/lord_of_scoundrels_embroidery/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lord of Scoundrels embroider</a>y.</li><li>If you haven't listened to&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/9/24/s021-lisa-kleypas-does-spectacles-better-than-f-scott-fitzgerald-dreaming-of-you" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">our episode on Dreaming of You</a>, what are you waiting for?</li><li>Maybe you want to find out&nbsp;<a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-see-your-first-ever-amazon-order-2015-7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">what you first ordered in your Amazon account</a>.</li><li>Jessica Trent is not a&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Sue" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mary Sue</a>.</li><li>Erin from&nbsp;<a href="https://heavingbosomspodcast.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heaving Bosoms</a>&nbsp;is famous for&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/Heaving_Bosoms/status/1153030261157744640" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">not liking epilogues</a>, but it's a pretty good reason why. But&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/Heaving_Bosoms/status/1169029315083874306" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">prologues are fine</a>.</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/hCrN0nrHnqU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">You've been lawyered</a>&nbsp;is from How I Met Your Mother.</li><li>Sarah wrote the prologue to a new edition of&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/35xEIzO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Transformation of Philip Jettan</a>.</li><li>Maybe&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/sep/18/your-fathers-not-your-father-when-dna-tests-reveal-more-than-you-bargained-for" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">watch out when taking DNA tests</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.huffpost.com/entry/dna-test-showed-dad-wasnt-my-father_n_5ca23245e4b09786986a5771" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Or not</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=stronzo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stronzo</a>! And maybe&nbsp;<a href="https://icebergproject.co/italian/2015/09/8-swear-words-in-italian-to-add-sass-to-your-vocabulary/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">some more&nbsp;</a>if you're interested.</li><li><a href="http://lovessweetarrow.com/index.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love's Sweet Arrow</a>&nbsp;is a romance-only bookstore in the Chicago suburbs. It's awesome.</li><li>Gentle Rogue&nbsp;<a href="https://overcast.fm/+PKWSJxnNI/21:00" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">started too late</a>.</li><li>More about Russian&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_icons" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">religous icons</a>, but maybe you want to&nbsp;<a href="https://russianicon.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">buy some</a>.</li><li>The gloves scene in the&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/6tetrxzT_dM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Age of Innocence movie.</a>&nbsp;All that repressed longing from&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/SE6eST2hlMw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Daniel Day Lewis</a>! In the book, it's&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bartleby.com/1005/29.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this chapter</a>&nbsp;where Newland Archer "bent over, unbuttoned her tight brown glove, and kissed her palm as if he had kissed a relic."</li><li><a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Beelzebub" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">All</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.britannica.com/topic/Beelzebub" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">about</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beelzebub" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Beelzebub</a>.</li><li>If you want to know about demon seals and&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/tag/Sebastian+wroth" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Wroth brothers</a>, then listen to season one of Fated Mates.</li><li>What does it even mean to&nbsp;<a href="https://www.centralhome.com/ballroomcountry/waltz.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">dance a waltz</a>&nbsp;in the Continental style? Probably not this&nbsp;<a href="https://john-wick.fandom.com/wiki/Continental_Hotel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Continental</a>-style.</li><li>The Beverly Jenkins book where the heroine shoots the hero is&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2OmjFe2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tempest</a>.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banns_of_marriage" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Reading the banns</a>&nbsp;and a list of&nbsp;<a href="https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/008695843" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">people who were married&nbsp;</a>at&nbsp;<a href="https://www.regencyhistory.net/2015/09/st-georges-hanover-square.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Saint George</a>&nbsp;Hanover Square.</li><li>You'll be shocked to know that&nbsp;<a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2018/07/jens-review-unraveled.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen has some theories about internal vs. external conflict</a>.</li><li>When they're at the wrestling match, Dain says his friend could have "stayed comfortably at home and&nbsp;<a href="https://thoughtcatalog.com/jim-goad/2014/12/400-euphemisms-for-sexual-intercourse/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">pumped</a>&nbsp;his wife."</li><li><a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/43844/she-walks-in-beauty" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">She Walks in Beauty Like the Night</a>&nbsp;is a glorious poem, but that doesn't make&nbsp;<a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/lord-byron" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Byron</a>&nbsp;any less of a&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Byron" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">scumbag</a>. That&nbsp;<a href="https://www.brainpickings.org/2014/12/10/ada-lovelace-walter-isaacson-innovators/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ada Lovelace</a>&nbsp;was Byron's daughter is kind of wild, but we're glad she's known for&nbsp;<a href="https://www.history.com/news/10-things-you-may-not-know-about-ada-lovelace" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">being her own person</a>. Despite Sarah trying to create an&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakespeare_authorship_question" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">authorship question</a>&nbsp;for Byron, that's not really a thing. There's no such person as the Duke of Summerville. Jen just made that up.</li><li>If you're interested in The Romantics, you can find&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/B5RcAZ5Ax6m/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen's old college syllabus here</a>. Lots of Wordsworth, but no Bryon, which is just fine. But we still love the way Loretta Chase used&nbsp;<a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/21700/21700-h/21700-h.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Don Juan</a>&nbsp;in the text of Lord of Scoundrels.</li><li>Friend of the pod Adriana Herrera&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/ladrianaherrera/status/1199109168554270720" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">has been reading</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/ladrianaherrera/status/1199297486256521218" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lord of Scoundrels</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/ladrianaherrera/status/1199304157229920261" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">for the</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/ladrianaherrera/status/1199393058665771012" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">first time</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/ladrianaherrera/status/1199393073664540673" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">and her</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/ladrianaherrera/status/1199414462329036803" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tweets about</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/ladrianaherrera/status/1199465639771066369" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">it are</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/ladrianaherrera/status/1199470198824275968" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">honestly the</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/ladrianaherrera/status/1199494625637142540" rel="noopener noreferrer"...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It may be Thanksgiving week in the US, but that didn’t stop us from recording a monster episode about one of our (and all of Romance’s) favorite books of all time! It’s <em>Lord of Scoundrels</em> week! We’re talking gloves and fans and prologues and why Jessica is one of the best heroines of all time! All that, and Sarah is on a rant about Byron…so don’t miss it!</p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review!</p><p>In two weeks, we’re moving across the pond to Beverly Jenkins’s Indigo, with one of Sarah’s favorite heroines ever—Hester Wyatt, Underground Railroad conductor! Read <em>Indigo</em> at <a href="https://amzn.to/35udOci" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/indigo-beverly-jenkins/1102327463?ean=2940013443266" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/indigo/id584318143?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/indigo-5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781495368219" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>.  </p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Lord of Scoundrels has its own&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_of_Scoundrels" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wikipedia page</a>, which in case you're curious, is kind of unusual.</li><li>Just look at this gorgeous&nbsp;<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/RomanceBooks/comments/1f0ztgr/lord_of_scoundrels_embroidery/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lord of Scoundrels embroider</a>y.</li><li>If you haven't listened to&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/9/24/s021-lisa-kleypas-does-spectacles-better-than-f-scott-fitzgerald-dreaming-of-you" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">our episode on Dreaming of You</a>, what are you waiting for?</li><li>Maybe you want to find out&nbsp;<a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-see-your-first-ever-amazon-order-2015-7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">what you first ordered in your Amazon account</a>.</li><li>Jessica Trent is not a&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Sue" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mary Sue</a>.</li><li>Erin from&nbsp;<a href="https://heavingbosomspodcast.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heaving Bosoms</a>&nbsp;is famous for&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/Heaving_Bosoms/status/1153030261157744640" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">not liking epilogues</a>, but it's a pretty good reason why. But&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/Heaving_Bosoms/status/1169029315083874306" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">prologues are fine</a>.</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/hCrN0nrHnqU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">You've been lawyered</a>&nbsp;is from How I Met Your Mother.</li><li>Sarah wrote the prologue to a new edition of&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/35xEIzO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Transformation of Philip Jettan</a>.</li><li>Maybe&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/sep/18/your-fathers-not-your-father-when-dna-tests-reveal-more-than-you-bargained-for" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">watch out when taking DNA tests</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.huffpost.com/entry/dna-test-showed-dad-wasnt-my-father_n_5ca23245e4b09786986a5771" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Or not</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=stronzo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stronzo</a>! And maybe&nbsp;<a href="https://icebergproject.co/italian/2015/09/8-swear-words-in-italian-to-add-sass-to-your-vocabulary/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">some more&nbsp;</a>if you're interested.</li><li><a href="http://lovessweetarrow.com/index.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love's Sweet Arrow</a>&nbsp;is a romance-only bookstore in the Chicago suburbs. It's awesome.</li><li>Gentle Rogue&nbsp;<a href="https://overcast.fm/+PKWSJxnNI/21:00" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">started too late</a>.</li><li>More about Russian&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_icons" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">religous icons</a>, but maybe you want to&nbsp;<a href="https://russianicon.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">buy some</a>.</li><li>The gloves scene in the&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/6tetrxzT_dM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Age of Innocence movie.</a>&nbsp;All that repressed longing from&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/SE6eST2hlMw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Daniel Day Lewis</a>! In the book, it's&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bartleby.com/1005/29.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this chapter</a>&nbsp;where Newland Archer "bent over, unbuttoned her tight brown glove, and kissed her palm as if he had kissed a relic."</li><li><a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Beelzebub" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">All</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.britannica.com/topic/Beelzebub" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">about</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beelzebub" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Beelzebub</a>.</li><li>If you want to know about demon seals and&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/tag/Sebastian+wroth" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Wroth brothers</a>, then listen to season one of Fated Mates.</li><li>What does it even mean to&nbsp;<a href="https://www.centralhome.com/ballroomcountry/waltz.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">dance a waltz</a>&nbsp;in the Continental style? Probably not this&nbsp;<a href="https://john-wick.fandom.com/wiki/Continental_Hotel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Continental</a>-style.</li><li>The Beverly Jenkins book where the heroine shoots the hero is&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2OmjFe2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tempest</a>.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banns_of_marriage" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Reading the banns</a>&nbsp;and a list of&nbsp;<a href="https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/008695843" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">people who were married&nbsp;</a>at&nbsp;<a href="https://www.regencyhistory.net/2015/09/st-georges-hanover-square.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Saint George</a>&nbsp;Hanover Square.</li><li>You'll be shocked to know that&nbsp;<a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2018/07/jens-review-unraveled.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen has some theories about internal vs. external conflict</a>.</li><li>When they're at the wrestling match, Dain says his friend could have "stayed comfortably at home and&nbsp;<a href="https://thoughtcatalog.com/jim-goad/2014/12/400-euphemisms-for-sexual-intercourse/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">pumped</a>&nbsp;his wife."</li><li><a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/43844/she-walks-in-beauty" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">She Walks in Beauty Like the Night</a>&nbsp;is a glorious poem, but that doesn't make&nbsp;<a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/lord-byron" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Byron</a>&nbsp;any less of a&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Byron" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">scumbag</a>. That&nbsp;<a href="https://www.brainpickings.org/2014/12/10/ada-lovelace-walter-isaacson-innovators/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ada Lovelace</a>&nbsp;was Byron's daughter is kind of wild, but we're glad she's known for&nbsp;<a href="https://www.history.com/news/10-things-you-may-not-know-about-ada-lovelace" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">being her own person</a>. Despite Sarah trying to create an&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakespeare_authorship_question" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">authorship question</a>&nbsp;for Byron, that's not really a thing. There's no such person as the Duke of Summerville. Jen just made that up.</li><li>If you're interested in The Romantics, you can find&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/B5RcAZ5Ax6m/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen's old college syllabus here</a>. Lots of Wordsworth, but no Bryon, which is just fine. But we still love the way Loretta Chase used&nbsp;<a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/21700/21700-h/21700-h.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Don Juan</a>&nbsp;in the text of Lord of Scoundrels.</li><li>Friend of the pod Adriana Herrera&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/ladrianaherrera/status/1199109168554270720" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">has been reading</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/ladrianaherrera/status/1199297486256521218" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lord of Scoundrels</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/ladrianaherrera/status/1199304157229920261" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">for the</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/ladrianaherrera/status/1199393058665771012" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">first time</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/ladrianaherrera/status/1199393073664540673" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">and her</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/ladrianaherrera/status/1199414462329036803" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tweets about</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/ladrianaherrera/status/1199465639771066369" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">it are</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/ladrianaherrera/status/1199470198824275968" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">honestly the</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/ladrianaherrera/status/1199494625637142540" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">most amazing</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/ladrianaherrera/status/1199504421173858304" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">thing</a>.</li><li>Maybe you want to buy some&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/shop" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">romancelandia buttons</a>&nbsp;or some of&nbsp;<a href="https://jordandene.com/collections/romance-sarah-maclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah's t-shirts</a>.</li><li>Coming up next on December 11, 2019,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2OMulBJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Indigo</a>&nbsp;by Beverly Jenkins</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/11/25/s0212-lord-of-scoundrels </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/11/25/s0212-lord-of-scoundrels]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5ddbdbb78f514102b473e333</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 27 Nov 2019 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/21d1590f-d2c1-442f-b927-f5cf11bb7d32/fated-mates-lord-of-scoundrels-final-reva.mp3" length="96787488" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:35:34</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>12</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:summary>It may be Thanksgiving week in the US, but that didn’t stop us from recording a monster episode about one of our (and all of Romance’s) favorite books of all time! It’s Lord of Scoundrels week! We’re talking gloves and fans and prologues and why Jessica is one of the best heroines of all time! All that, and Sarah is on a rant about Byron…so don’t miss it!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-21d1590f-d2c1-442f-b927-f5cf11bb7d32.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S02.11: Romance Recommendations: Stump Jen and Sarah</title><itunes:title>Romance Recommendations - Stump Jen and Sarah</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Stay tuned for the second half of the episode in December! Next week, just in time for your tryptophan induced coma, we’re talking Loretta Chase’s <em>Lord of Scoundrels</em>, which was on both Jen &amp; Sarah’s list, and is on the lions’ share of Best Romance Novels Ever lists. We’ll get into why. Read <em>Lord of Scoundrels</em> at <a href="https://amzn.to/2oQXq61" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/lord-of-scoundrels-loretta-chase/1100616009?ean=9780061753817" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/lord-of-scoundrels/id360602857?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/lord-of-scoundrels" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9780380776160" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>.</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p><strong>Question 1</strong>: Ennis from New York asked, "is like <a href="https://amzn.to/2OrcOi9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lothaire</a> by Kresley Cole or <a href="https://amzn.to/2O4UHQh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cold Cole Heart</a>by K Webster, where the hero is someone who would be a villain in any other book. A megalomaniac, horribly damaged, murderous, whatever- and a heroine who takes NONE of his shit and brings him to his knees."</p><p><strong>Our Recommendations</strong>: The name of <a href="https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MoralityChain" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this trope is "morality chain"</a> which might help you on your search for books like this. <a href="https://ew.com/books/2019/10/24/sarah-maclean-bareknuckle-bastards-daring-and-the-duke-cover/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah's Summer 2020 release Daring and the Duke</a> is perfect for this question, but since it's not out yet, try The Masterpiece Duet by Skye Warren. The first is <a href="https://amzn.to/2QInjR9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The King</a>.</p><p><strong>Question 2:</strong> Lesley from Washington DC asked for books "with Jewish heroes and heroines, does not have to be holiday themed."</p><p><strong>Our recommendations: </strong>: Jen suggests <a href="https://amzn.to/2pB19oE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Knit One, Girl Two</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/2OvKKtU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cinnamon Blade</a> by Shira Glassman. In fact, <a href="http://heavingbosoms.libsyn.com/ep-91-cinnamon-blade-knife-in-shining-armor-by-shira-glassman-with-jenreadsromance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen was a special guest on the Heaving Bosoms podcast</a> taking about Cinnamon Blade. Sarah recommends <a href="https://amzn.to/2r2TNe3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Craving Flight</a> by Tamsen Parker and <a href="https://amzn.to/2Ox3Cci" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dalliances and Devotion</a> by Felicia Grossman. <a href="https://twitter.com/nystacey" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stacey Agdern</a> also writes about <a href="https://www.heyalma.com/were-obsessed-with-these-jewish-romance-novels/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jewish representation in romance</a> and has written some novellas in the Rogue Anthologies. We also mentioned a <a href="https://twitter.com/HFeliciaG/status/1187765935257640961" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">great point</a> that inspired a <a href="https://twitter.com/HFeliciaG/status/1187810638384504832" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">great thread</a> by <a href="https://twitter.com/HFeliciaG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Felicia Grossman</a> about Jewish characters in literature.</p><p><strong>Question 3:</strong> Daniela from Winnipeg had this AMA question: If there was a battle royale between all the IAD heroes, who would win? Does the answer change if they can't use weapons?</p><p><strong>Our Answer:</strong> The Wroth brothers would band togehter, Declan Chase has a real shot, and Lothaire wouldn't care. No matter who wins, Thronos goes down first. Jen mentioned someone who wrote about <a href="https://faceintheblue.wordpress.com/2012/08/22/in-a-mass-knife-fight-to-the-death-between-every-american-president-who-would-win-and-why/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">what would happen if all the US Presidents were in a knife fight</a>. Enjoy.</p><p>FWIW, Daniela also asked a question we skipped because we couldn't think of anything: <em>A historical that has a silver fox duke and a spitfire heroine who exhausts the hell out of him</em>. IDEAS? Let us know on twitter.</p><p><strong>Question 4:</strong> Kristen from DC! asked, "LGBTQ romance easily available in PRINT for my book club???? We do it through a local indie bookshop, and are having a hard time finding things other than Cat Sebastian/Olivia Waite from Avon."</p><p><strong>Our Recommendations:</strong> Adriana Herrera's <a href="https://amzn.to/2QywELd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">American Dreamer</a> series! <a href="https://amzn.to/37lAuxd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Red, White, and Royal Blue</a> by Casey McQuiston. We think <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Vanessa-North/e/B008HIQXI0?qid=1574177757&amp;ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1&amp;sr=1-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vanessa North</a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com/s?i=stripbooks&amp;k=KJ%20charles&amp;ref=nb_sb_noss" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">KJ Charles</a> might be <a href="https://www.ingramspark.com/blog/print-on-demand-for-indie-publishers" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">print on demand</a>, which many indie bookstores won't carry. Dreamspinner is a mess right now, but many great authors are there, including LaQuette's latest, <a href="https://amzn.to/2CZKxKl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Under His Protection</a>, which Jen bought a copy of at <a href="http://lovessweetarrow.com/index.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love's Sweet Arrow</a>. Carina titles might be more easily available, so try <a href="https://amzn.to/2Kz68xa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Syncopation</a> and the rest of the <a href="https://amzn.to/35b4fyG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twisted Wishes</a> series by Anna Zabo. Jen mentioned <a href="https://amzn.to/2QtZT1H" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Being Hospitable by Meka James</a>, but it's just in E. But you should still read it for fun.</p><p><strong>Question 5:</strong> Courtney from the <a href="http://www.bodicetipplers.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bodice Tipplers Podcast</a> wants to know what books made us fall in love with the genre.</p><p><strong>Our answer:</strong> Well, just listen to all of season 2 of Fated Mates! But Sarah mentioned <a href="https://amzn.to/2QywdjL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nobody's Baby but Mine</a> by Susan Elizabeth Phillips. Jen mentioned a new book that has made her feel that way is <a href="https://amzn.to/35izqbv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Bride Test</a> by Helen Hoang. Julie Garwood and Jude Deveraux were old-school authors we both loved back in the day.</p><p><strong>Question 6</strong>: Ali in NYC had an AMA and a question: How is Eric Mortensen so good at podcast editing?</p><p><strong>Our answer</strong>: Well, he just is and you should <a href="mailto:eric@ericmortensen.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">contact him</a> if you need podcast editing help.</p><p>Ali also wanted recommendations about historicals with witches/magic. Our recommendations: So many of these are old school, because this is not a very popular trope right now, so please proceed with caution. Sarah recommended <a href="https://amzn.to/37deog6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bewitching by Jill Barnett</a> and Jen recommended a pair of books by Teresa Medeiros, <a href="https://amzn.to/343WFpl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Breath of Magic</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/2rccxrh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Touch of Enchantment</a>. In fact, Jen reviewed <a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2017/09/throwback-review-touch-of-enchantment.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Touch of Enchantment for The Book Queen</a>. Post-recording, we thought of <a href="https://amzn.to/2Qz4D6b" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sex and the Psychic Witch</a> by Annette Blair, which is the first of a series where three sisters use their "magic powers for good and their good looks for seduction."</p><p><strong>Question 7</strong>: Hannah from Texas asked for a romance that "has a Lucy Liu in "Set It Up" type heroine getting her actual HEA. I need ball-busting energy falling in love with a guy/gal/whoever that deserves her."</p><p><strong>Our Recommendations:</strong> Sarah recommended <a href="https://amzn.to/2CZ74Xy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Takeover Effect</a> by Nisha Sharma which has a corporate espionage plot. Jen was maybe thinking of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Set_It_Off_(film)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Set it Off</a> and recommeded Elle Kennedy's Out of Uniform series. Jen mentioned <a href="https://amzn.to/2CZ7b5q" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Getting Hotter</a> by Elle Kennedy, but upon further reflection, also thinks The Heat is On (in an anthology called <a href="https://amzn.to/2KB2G58" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hot &amp; Heavy</a>) might work. But since Hannah was actually talking about <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Set_It_Up" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Set it Up</a>, which is about assistants and bosses, maybe try <a href="https://amzn.to/2OqTzoP"...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stay tuned for the second half of the episode in December! Next week, just in time for your tryptophan induced coma, we’re talking Loretta Chase’s <em>Lord of Scoundrels</em>, which was on both Jen &amp; Sarah’s list, and is on the lions’ share of Best Romance Novels Ever lists. We’ll get into why. Read <em>Lord of Scoundrels</em> at <a href="https://amzn.to/2oQXq61" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/lord-of-scoundrels-loretta-chase/1100616009?ean=9780061753817" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/lord-of-scoundrels/id360602857?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/lord-of-scoundrels" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9780380776160" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>.</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p><strong>Question 1</strong>: Ennis from New York asked, "is like <a href="https://amzn.to/2OrcOi9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lothaire</a> by Kresley Cole or <a href="https://amzn.to/2O4UHQh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cold Cole Heart</a>by K Webster, where the hero is someone who would be a villain in any other book. A megalomaniac, horribly damaged, murderous, whatever- and a heroine who takes NONE of his shit and brings him to his knees."</p><p><strong>Our Recommendations</strong>: The name of <a href="https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MoralityChain" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this trope is "morality chain"</a> which might help you on your search for books like this. <a href="https://ew.com/books/2019/10/24/sarah-maclean-bareknuckle-bastards-daring-and-the-duke-cover/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah's Summer 2020 release Daring and the Duke</a> is perfect for this question, but since it's not out yet, try The Masterpiece Duet by Skye Warren. The first is <a href="https://amzn.to/2QInjR9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The King</a>.</p><p><strong>Question 2:</strong> Lesley from Washington DC asked for books "with Jewish heroes and heroines, does not have to be holiday themed."</p><p><strong>Our recommendations: </strong>: Jen suggests <a href="https://amzn.to/2pB19oE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Knit One, Girl Two</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/2OvKKtU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cinnamon Blade</a> by Shira Glassman. In fact, <a href="http://heavingbosoms.libsyn.com/ep-91-cinnamon-blade-knife-in-shining-armor-by-shira-glassman-with-jenreadsromance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen was a special guest on the Heaving Bosoms podcast</a> taking about Cinnamon Blade. Sarah recommends <a href="https://amzn.to/2r2TNe3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Craving Flight</a> by Tamsen Parker and <a href="https://amzn.to/2Ox3Cci" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dalliances and Devotion</a> by Felicia Grossman. <a href="https://twitter.com/nystacey" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stacey Agdern</a> also writes about <a href="https://www.heyalma.com/were-obsessed-with-these-jewish-romance-novels/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jewish representation in romance</a> and has written some novellas in the Rogue Anthologies. We also mentioned a <a href="https://twitter.com/HFeliciaG/status/1187765935257640961" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">great point</a> that inspired a <a href="https://twitter.com/HFeliciaG/status/1187810638384504832" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">great thread</a> by <a href="https://twitter.com/HFeliciaG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Felicia Grossman</a> about Jewish characters in literature.</p><p><strong>Question 3:</strong> Daniela from Winnipeg had this AMA question: If there was a battle royale between all the IAD heroes, who would win? Does the answer change if they can't use weapons?</p><p><strong>Our Answer:</strong> The Wroth brothers would band togehter, Declan Chase has a real shot, and Lothaire wouldn't care. No matter who wins, Thronos goes down first. Jen mentioned someone who wrote about <a href="https://faceintheblue.wordpress.com/2012/08/22/in-a-mass-knife-fight-to-the-death-between-every-american-president-who-would-win-and-why/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">what would happen if all the US Presidents were in a knife fight</a>. Enjoy.</p><p>FWIW, Daniela also asked a question we skipped because we couldn't think of anything: <em>A historical that has a silver fox duke and a spitfire heroine who exhausts the hell out of him</em>. IDEAS? Let us know on twitter.</p><p><strong>Question 4:</strong> Kristen from DC! asked, "LGBTQ romance easily available in PRINT for my book club???? We do it through a local indie bookshop, and are having a hard time finding things other than Cat Sebastian/Olivia Waite from Avon."</p><p><strong>Our Recommendations:</strong> Adriana Herrera's <a href="https://amzn.to/2QywELd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">American Dreamer</a> series! <a href="https://amzn.to/37lAuxd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Red, White, and Royal Blue</a> by Casey McQuiston. We think <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Vanessa-North/e/B008HIQXI0?qid=1574177757&amp;ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1&amp;sr=1-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vanessa North</a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com/s?i=stripbooks&amp;k=KJ%20charles&amp;ref=nb_sb_noss" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">KJ Charles</a> might be <a href="https://www.ingramspark.com/blog/print-on-demand-for-indie-publishers" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">print on demand</a>, which many indie bookstores won't carry. Dreamspinner is a mess right now, but many great authors are there, including LaQuette's latest, <a href="https://amzn.to/2CZKxKl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Under His Protection</a>, which Jen bought a copy of at <a href="http://lovessweetarrow.com/index.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love's Sweet Arrow</a>. Carina titles might be more easily available, so try <a href="https://amzn.to/2Kz68xa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Syncopation</a> and the rest of the <a href="https://amzn.to/35b4fyG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twisted Wishes</a> series by Anna Zabo. Jen mentioned <a href="https://amzn.to/2QtZT1H" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Being Hospitable by Meka James</a>, but it's just in E. But you should still read it for fun.</p><p><strong>Question 5:</strong> Courtney from the <a href="http://www.bodicetipplers.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bodice Tipplers Podcast</a> wants to know what books made us fall in love with the genre.</p><p><strong>Our answer:</strong> Well, just listen to all of season 2 of Fated Mates! But Sarah mentioned <a href="https://amzn.to/2QywdjL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nobody's Baby but Mine</a> by Susan Elizabeth Phillips. Jen mentioned a new book that has made her feel that way is <a href="https://amzn.to/35izqbv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Bride Test</a> by Helen Hoang. Julie Garwood and Jude Deveraux were old-school authors we both loved back in the day.</p><p><strong>Question 6</strong>: Ali in NYC had an AMA and a question: How is Eric Mortensen so good at podcast editing?</p><p><strong>Our answer</strong>: Well, he just is and you should <a href="mailto:eric@ericmortensen.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">contact him</a> if you need podcast editing help.</p><p>Ali also wanted recommendations about historicals with witches/magic. Our recommendations: So many of these are old school, because this is not a very popular trope right now, so please proceed with caution. Sarah recommended <a href="https://amzn.to/37deog6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bewitching by Jill Barnett</a> and Jen recommended a pair of books by Teresa Medeiros, <a href="https://amzn.to/343WFpl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Breath of Magic</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/2rccxrh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Touch of Enchantment</a>. In fact, Jen reviewed <a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2017/09/throwback-review-touch-of-enchantment.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Touch of Enchantment for The Book Queen</a>. Post-recording, we thought of <a href="https://amzn.to/2Qz4D6b" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sex and the Psychic Witch</a> by Annette Blair, which is the first of a series where three sisters use their "magic powers for good and their good looks for seduction."</p><p><strong>Question 7</strong>: Hannah from Texas asked for a romance that "has a Lucy Liu in "Set It Up" type heroine getting her actual HEA. I need ball-busting energy falling in love with a guy/gal/whoever that deserves her."</p><p><strong>Our Recommendations:</strong> Sarah recommended <a href="https://amzn.to/2CZ74Xy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Takeover Effect</a> by Nisha Sharma which has a corporate espionage plot. Jen was maybe thinking of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Set_It_Off_(film)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Set it Off</a> and recommeded Elle Kennedy's Out of Uniform series. Jen mentioned <a href="https://amzn.to/2CZ7b5q" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Getting Hotter</a> by Elle Kennedy, but upon further reflection, also thinks The Heat is On (in an anthology called <a href="https://amzn.to/2KB2G58" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hot &amp; Heavy</a>) might work. But since Hannah was actually talking about <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Set_It_Up" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Set it Up</a>, which is about assistants and bosses, maybe try <a href="https://amzn.to/2OqTzoP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Assistant</a> by Ramona Gray or check out this extensive <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show/boss-employee-romance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">goodreads list of boss/employee romance novels</a>.</p><p><strong>Question 8: </strong>Jenica from New York asked for a book that has "Childhood friends to enemies to lovers, preferably contemporary."</p><p><strong>Our recommendations: </strong>: We don't say it here, but one strategy Sarah and Jen use all the time with more popular tropes is searching for a Goodreads list. If you can find a book with a title or two you like on it, you might like others! Jen recommended <a href="https://amzn.to/2OsMVhP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">His Until Midnight</a> by Reese Ryan, and also noted that Sarah's book <a href="https://amzn.to/2XtABlw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Rogue by Any Other Name</a> has this trope. Sarah recommended <a href="https://amzn.to/2XutsBt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Punk 57</a> by Penelope Douglas. And a trailing suggestion was trying <a href="https://amzn.to/2pBE70W" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Christina Lauren</a>, who has written many great enemies to lovers books and maybe one also has childhood friends. We didn't mention it on the podcast, but if you like YA, Jen loved <a href="https://amzn.to/346ntW8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Not if I Save You First</a> by Allie Carter. That one would definitely work!</p><p><strong>Question 9:</strong> Holly from Chapel Hill asked for a book that "Has all the mutual pining. Friends to lovers, enemies to lovers, doesn't matter. Give me every last drop of pining."</p><p><strong>Our recommendations</strong>: Sarah suggests <a href="https://amzn.to/37hzw4W" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Waking Up with the Duke</a> by Lorraine Heath. Jen recommends <a href="https://amzn.to/35eAyNe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">On Broken Wings</a> by Chanel Cleeton. After we realized that there is lots of pining in Lisa Kleypas, but we think Again the Magic might be best.</p><p>Holly had a follow up AMA, "What would your ideal book-centered vacation be?" Sarah said a beach, Jen has always wanted to stay at <a href="https://libraryhotel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Library Hotel</a>, and that led to a discussion of Nora Robert's <a href="https://innboonsboro.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Boonsboro Inn</a>, in Boonsboro, Maryland. But Jen also loves to read locally, which means reading books set in the places you are traveling.</p><p><strong>Question 10:</strong> Kara asked for a recommendation that "Has some sort of adventure or quest but is also slow burn."</p><p><strong>Our recommendations: </strong>Slow burns aren't our speciality. Jen joked she likes a "fast, incendiary burn." Please check out the Hidden Legacy series by Ilona Andrews, and the second one where they finally do it is called <a href="https://amzn.to/35fW18p" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">White Hot</a>. The first one is called <a href="https://amzn.to/2QF4ON4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Burn For Me</a>, it's right in the title! If you like fantasy, try <a href="https://amzn.to/2D0e4nb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bound to the Battle God</a> by Ruby Dixon. Sarah mentioned <a href="https://amzn.to/32ZSMAz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Promise of Fire</a> by Amanda Bouchet. And <a href="https://amzn.to/2OwAWjk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Aurora Blazing</a> by Jessie Mihalik could count for this category and for pining!</p><p><strong>Question 11</strong>: Chase from Germany wants "Has m/m with a happy ending and the trope enemies to lovers?"</p><p><strong>Our recommendations</strong>: Sarah recommends <a href="https://amzn.to/332sLAH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Goalie Interference</a>, which has enemy hockey players. Annika Martin has a good series, the first is called <a href="https://amzn.to/35eOdE7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Enemies Like You</a>, and Jen also likes a series by Layla Rayne called <a href="https://amzn.to/2QA0UFy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Agents Irish and Whiskey</a>. <a href="https://amzn.to/2OlODl2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cask Strength</a> also appeared in Jen's list of <a href="https://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2019/06/who-did-it-better-on-pool-table.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Who Did It Better on a Pool Table</a>. You're welcome.</p><p><strong>Question 12</strong>: Caitlin from Wisconsin wants a book that "Has a plus size heroine, emphasis on fashion...vampires would also be nice."</p><p><strong>Our recommendations</strong>: We had to handle these two separately. For a curvy heroine with fasion, we recommended <a href="https://amzn.to/346FSC4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Take Me</a> by Bella Andre and <a href="https://amzn.to/2KB48Vt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The King of Bourbon Street</a> by Thea De Salle. For vampires, try <a href="https://amzn.to/2OtwnX5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tall Dark and Hungry</a> by Lynsay Sands. It's about a vampire who writes vampire novels. The Sherrilyn Kenyon book Sarah was thinking about is called <a href="https://amzn.to/2CXC22a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Night Play</a>, but it's actually about a werewolf. Oh well.</p><p><strong>Question 13:</strong> Jess asked, "Has an alpha submissive (I’ve tasked Sarah with this before and want more!)"</p><p><strong>Our recommendations: </strong>Jen doesn't think this exists, but Sarah recommends <a href="https://amzn.to/2XwLO4N" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Duke I Tempted</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/32XzWKo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Giving It Up</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/2CZOdvA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Devil's Submission</a> and Sierra Simone's <a href="https://amzn.to/37m8U2N" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">New Camelot series</a>. If you can roll with Kristen Ashley's prose style, try <a href="https://amzn.to/2O25VVo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Deacon</a>. There is no pony play involved.</p><p>Jess had a follow up AMA: "I would love to hear more about audiobook production. How much say authors have. Do they get to check in during production to make sure jokes are being delivered properly, etc?" Sarah replied that the answer is ... authors don't have much say at all, except maybe a choice of narrators. Sarah loves her narrator, Justine Eyre.</p><p><strong>Question 14</strong>: Lesley from San Francisco asked for a book that "Has a heroine over 50 who is single (not divorced or widowed)."</p><p><strong>Our recommendations:</strong> This was a hard one, and we are hoping that listeners will chime in with answers. We don't think any of these heroines are single--all widowed or divorced. But try <a href="https://amzn.to/334MnUC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apples Are Red</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/2CWKIpG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Driving in Neutral</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/2CWDqSQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bound with Love,</a> or <a href="https://amzn.to/2OwpcgM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mrs. Martin's Incomparable Adventure</a>. But, you can check out this <a href="https:///groupwww.facebook.coms/958318970951705/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">facebook group for seasoned romance</a>, and <a href="https://twitter.com/tarheelmom1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Donna</a>posts a weekly Frolic column of seasoned romances. Finally, Sarah recommended London Hale's <a href="https://amzn.to/330SlWH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Talk Dirty To Me.</a></p><p><strong>Question 15:</strong> Carly from Atlanta is looking for “there’s only one bed,” historical edition (bonus points if they don’t have sex that time, but do later).</p><p><strong>Our recommendations:</strong> There are so many of these that we had a hard time answering. Yikes! But <a href="https://amzn.to/2XwyqxW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Christmas Gone Perfectly Wrong</a> is amazing. Later in Season 2 of Fated Mates, we'll read <a href="https://amzn.to/2O1eCzm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Devil's Bride</a> by Stephanie Laurens, but the ohter one Sarah was thinking of was <a href="https://amzn.to/37m5aOH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Capture of the Earl of Glencrae</a> Afterwards, we thought of <a href="https://amzn.to/2pxJXAf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Duke Buys a Bride </a>and <a href="https://amzn.to/2s19Vx1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tycoon</a>.</p><p><strong>Question 16</strong>: Shannon in Atlanta said, "Ghosts. I need all the ghosts. I’m regrading Lynn Kurland’s Stardust of Yesterday to see if I am still madly in love with Kendrick like 14 yr old me was. But I need more ghosts. For spooky season and for always."</p><p><strong>Our recommendations:</strong> So obvioulsy the best IAD book is <a href="https://amzn.to/2qsf54A" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dark Needs at Night's Edge</a>. But <a href="https://amzn.to/2CZztNq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Halloween Boo</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/2KC63ZD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hot Ghost</a> might also be of interest. After recording, Jen thought of <a href="https://amzn.to/2XyXtAb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Headmaster</a> by Tiffany Reisz and Sarah thought of <a href="https://amzn.to/2r7RBll" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">For the Earl's Pleasure</a> by Anne Mallory.</p><p><strong>Question 17:</strong> Natali from Tampa asked for romances with "a sexy but serious body guard- saves heroine from her evil husband OR...]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/11/18/s0211-romance-recommendations-stump-jen-and-sarah]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5dd2e2b18bb1200489577b53</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 20 Nov 2019 09:10:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/6bc6ff24-76b8-4792-beca-c8acfdb36861/fated-mates-ama-recs-final.mp3" length="73993182" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:12:22</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>11</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:summary>It’s the first half of our recommendation podcast! We asked you to ask us for recommendations, and thought it would be fun to recommend on the fly—absolutely no preparation! Instead, we met up at Sarah’s apartment and read your questions sight-unseen (thanks to @bestfriendkelly for collecting them!). What ensued is a killer list of romances that you should all read!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-6bc6ff24-76b8-4792-beca-c8acfdb36861.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S02.10: Amnesia Romance Novels</title><itunes:title>Amnesia Romance Novels</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Next week, we’re switching things up and running a full recommendation podcast! You asked us questions, and we’re recommending a metric romance ton of books! Don’t miss it!</p><p>In two weeks, we’re going to a classic of classics! The read was on both Jen &amp; Sarah’s list—Loretta Chase’s <em>Lord of Scoundrels</em>, which is on the lions’ share of Best Romance Novels Ever lists. We’ll get into why. Read <em>Lord of Scoundrels</em> at <a href="https://amzn.to/2oQXq61" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/lord-of-scoundrels-loretta-chase/1100616009?ean=9780061753817" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/lord-of-scoundrels/id360602857?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/lord-of-scoundrels" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9780380776160" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>.</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><ul><li>Listen, it's <a href="http://www.ericfoner.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Eric FONER</a>. He's <a href="https://www.historians.org/publications-and-directories/perspectives-on-history/april-2011/eric-foner-receives-the-2011-pulitzer-prize-for-history" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">kind of a big deal</a>.</li><li>More about how <a href="https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=141164708" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">brains develop</a>.</li><li>A twitter thread about <a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1120371492456472576" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah's brain surgeon</a>.</li><li>The kind of <a href="https://www.livescience.com/50190-amnesia-is-nothing-like-it-seems-on-film.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amnesia in books and movies isn't real</a>, but in case you were wondering, all about <a href="https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/transient-global-amnesia/symptoms-causes/syc-20378531" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">global amnesia</a> and <a href="https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/aphasia/symptoms-causes/syc-20369518" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">aphasia</a>.</li><li>Jen &amp; Sarah have seen the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overboard_(1987_film)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">80s version of Overboard</a> 100 times, and <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1563742/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the 2018 version</a> no times.</li><li>Speaking of <a href="https://amzn.to/2rBUVW5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pregneisa</a>... on the podcast <a href="https://www.idontevenownatelevision.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">I Don't Even Own a Television</a>, these two guys mostly read it to make fun of it, but then listen to just <a href="https://overcast.fm/+BuWsLVmwA/16:21" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this snippet</a> of <a href="https://www.vice.com/en_us/contributor/jeb-lund" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jeb Lund</a> TOTALLY GETTING ROMANCE.</li><li><a href="https://kyliescott.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kylie Scott</a> does write about <a href="https://amzn.to/2pXPi4k" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">zombies</a>, and <a href="https://amzn.to/2QdMfQb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">threesomes</a>, and <a href="https://amzn.to/32G6OXS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">rock stars</a>, and <a href="https://amzn.to/2KgVw6a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">getting with your Dad's best friend</a>.</li><li>Jen did write about <a href="https://amzn.to/32IWLBi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lies</a> as <a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/features/can-romance-fiction-have-unreliable-narrators/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">an example of an Unreliable Narrator</a>, but she still enjoyed the book!</li><li>Jen couldn't locate the future/present/past thread on twitter, but this is a placeholder in case she ever does.</li><li><a href="https://www.vulture.com/2016/12/passengers-twist-ethical.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">No one liked that Chris Pratt movie</a>.</li><li>All about that <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">incel</a> bullshit.</li><li><a href="https://www.sparknotes.com/lit/martianchronicles/section6/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Silent Towns</a> is a short story by Ray Bradbury in <a href="https://amzn.to/32K0778" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Martian Chronicles</a>---which Jen really liked for the most part! Try <a href="https://www.btboces.org/Downloads/7_There%20Will%20Come%20Soft%20Rains%20by%20Ray%20Bradbury.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">There will Come Soft Rains</a> instead.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Man_on_Earth_(TV_series)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Last Man on Earth</a> is a TV show and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/While_You_Were_Sleeping_(film)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">While You Were Sleeping</a> was a movie.</li><li>Jen likes the scummy, sexy white boy thing <a href="https://youtu.be/J7AOAWDZMDg?t=51" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Matthew McConaughey</a> has going on.</li><li>"<a href="https://youtu.be/CdqoNKCCt7A" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Don't You Forget About Me</a>" is the theme song to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Breakfast_Club" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Breakfast Club</a>. No one had amnesia in the movie, they were just teenagers likely to be shitty to each other.</li><li><a href="https://fairuse.stanford.edu/overview/fair-use/what-is-fair-use/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What's Fair Use</a>?</li><li>Buy <a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/shop" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">buttons from Kelly</a> and <a href="https://jordandene.com/collections/romance-sarah-maclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">shirts from Jordandené</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/bibliosomniator/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ashley</a> from Southern California was blooded by <a href="https://amzn.to/2QeN2QW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Duchess War</em>&nbsp;by Courtney Milan</a></li><li>Next week we're doing the first of our big romance recommendation podcasts, but get reading <a href="https://amzn.to/2q9rXwl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lord of Scoundrels</a> by Loretta Chase -- it's our next read!</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/11/11/s0210-amnesia-romance-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Next week, we’re switching things up and running a full recommendation podcast! You asked us questions, and we’re recommending a metric romance ton of books! Don’t miss it!</p><p>In two weeks, we’re going to a classic of classics! The read was on both Jen &amp; Sarah’s list—Loretta Chase’s <em>Lord of Scoundrels</em>, which is on the lions’ share of Best Romance Novels Ever lists. We’ll get into why. Read <em>Lord of Scoundrels</em> at <a href="https://amzn.to/2oQXq61" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/lord-of-scoundrels-loretta-chase/1100616009?ean=9780061753817" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/lord-of-scoundrels/id360602857?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/lord-of-scoundrels" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9780380776160" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>.</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><ul><li>Listen, it's <a href="http://www.ericfoner.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Eric FONER</a>. He's <a href="https://www.historians.org/publications-and-directories/perspectives-on-history/april-2011/eric-foner-receives-the-2011-pulitzer-prize-for-history" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">kind of a big deal</a>.</li><li>More about how <a href="https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=141164708" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">brains develop</a>.</li><li>A twitter thread about <a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1120371492456472576" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah's brain surgeon</a>.</li><li>The kind of <a href="https://www.livescience.com/50190-amnesia-is-nothing-like-it-seems-on-film.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amnesia in books and movies isn't real</a>, but in case you were wondering, all about <a href="https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/transient-global-amnesia/symptoms-causes/syc-20378531" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">global amnesia</a> and <a href="https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/aphasia/symptoms-causes/syc-20369518" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">aphasia</a>.</li><li>Jen &amp; Sarah have seen the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overboard_(1987_film)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">80s version of Overboard</a> 100 times, and <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1563742/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the 2018 version</a> no times.</li><li>Speaking of <a href="https://amzn.to/2rBUVW5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pregneisa</a>... on the podcast <a href="https://www.idontevenownatelevision.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">I Don't Even Own a Television</a>, these two guys mostly read it to make fun of it, but then listen to just <a href="https://overcast.fm/+BuWsLVmwA/16:21" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this snippet</a> of <a href="https://www.vice.com/en_us/contributor/jeb-lund" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jeb Lund</a> TOTALLY GETTING ROMANCE.</li><li><a href="https://kyliescott.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kylie Scott</a> does write about <a href="https://amzn.to/2pXPi4k" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">zombies</a>, and <a href="https://amzn.to/2QdMfQb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">threesomes</a>, and <a href="https://amzn.to/32G6OXS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">rock stars</a>, and <a href="https://amzn.to/2KgVw6a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">getting with your Dad's best friend</a>.</li><li>Jen did write about <a href="https://amzn.to/32IWLBi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lies</a> as <a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/features/can-romance-fiction-have-unreliable-narrators/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">an example of an Unreliable Narrator</a>, but she still enjoyed the book!</li><li>Jen couldn't locate the future/present/past thread on twitter, but this is a placeholder in case she ever does.</li><li><a href="https://www.vulture.com/2016/12/passengers-twist-ethical.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">No one liked that Chris Pratt movie</a>.</li><li>All about that <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">incel</a> bullshit.</li><li><a href="https://www.sparknotes.com/lit/martianchronicles/section6/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Silent Towns</a> is a short story by Ray Bradbury in <a href="https://amzn.to/32K0778" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Martian Chronicles</a>---which Jen really liked for the most part! Try <a href="https://www.btboces.org/Downloads/7_There%20Will%20Come%20Soft%20Rains%20by%20Ray%20Bradbury.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">There will Come Soft Rains</a> instead.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Man_on_Earth_(TV_series)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Last Man on Earth</a> is a TV show and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/While_You_Were_Sleeping_(film)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">While You Were Sleeping</a> was a movie.</li><li>Jen likes the scummy, sexy white boy thing <a href="https://youtu.be/J7AOAWDZMDg?t=51" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Matthew McConaughey</a> has going on.</li><li>"<a href="https://youtu.be/CdqoNKCCt7A" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Don't You Forget About Me</a>" is the theme song to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Breakfast_Club" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Breakfast Club</a>. No one had amnesia in the movie, they were just teenagers likely to be shitty to each other.</li><li><a href="https://fairuse.stanford.edu/overview/fair-use/what-is-fair-use/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What's Fair Use</a>?</li><li>Buy <a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/shop" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">buttons from Kelly</a> and <a href="https://jordandene.com/collections/romance-sarah-maclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">shirts from Jordandené</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/bibliosomniator/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ashley</a> from Southern California was blooded by <a href="https://amzn.to/2QeN2QW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Duchess War</em>&nbsp;by Courtney Milan</a></li><li>Next week we're doing the first of our big romance recommendation podcasts, but get reading <a href="https://amzn.to/2q9rXwl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lord of Scoundrels</a> by Loretta Chase -- it's our next read!</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/11/11/s0210-amnesia-romance-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/11/11/s0210-amnesia-romance-interstitial]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5dc9fe0e26a1a305753cc081</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2019 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/72ddccc9-46b6-4929-ae95-79a098d191b6/fated-mates-amnesia-final.mp3" length="75367106" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:12:21</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>10</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We’re talking about the most scientific of topics today — it’s Amnesia Week! Whether you love or hate it, or believe it simply doesn’t exist, you can’t deny the fact that amnesia has kept a battalion of romance readers in books for nigh on forty years. And of course, we’re talking about Overboard.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-72ddccc9-46b6-4929-ae95-79a098d191b6.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S02.09: Sierra Simone&apos;s Midwest: Priest</title><itunes:title>Sierra Simone&apos;s Midwest: Priest</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It’s <em>Priest</em> week! Sarah put Sierra Simone’s Priest on her Books that Blooded Her list, and this episode is a ride! Jen’s reading first person narrative, we’re both escaped catholics, Sarah imprinted on The Thornbirds, we’ll get to the bottom of anal sex in church (see what we did there?), and fully disagree about how much guilt is too much guilt for a hero. Plus, you’ll hear us tell you how brilliant we think Sierra is. </p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review!</p><p>In two weeks, we’re going to a classic of classics! The read was on both Jen &amp; Sarah’s list—Loretta Chase’s <em>Lord of Scoundrels</em>, which is on the lions’ share of Best Romance Novels Ever lists. We’ll get into why. Read <em>Lord of Scoundrels</em> at <a href="https://amzn.to/2oQXq61" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/lord-of-scoundrels-loretta-chase/1100616009?ean=9780061753817" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/lord-of-scoundrels/id360602857?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/lord-of-scoundrels" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9780380776160" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>.</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>We love Sierra Simone! Sarah talked about Sinner on <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/25-best-friends-sibling-romances-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Best Friend's Sibling episode</a>, and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/4/29/12-macrieve" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sierra was a special guest on our MacRieve episode</a>. She'll also be joining us on a very special future interstitial.</li><li>Will Kresley drop Munro <a href="https://variety.com/2019/music/news/beyonce-drops-surprise-40-track-homecoming-album-1203191449/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">like Beyonce</a>? One can only hope.</li><li>If you want to join Sarah's FB <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/osrbc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Old School Romance Book Club</a> group, click here and wait for moderator approval. We (try to remember but sometimes have to be reminded to) post a discussion post for each week's episode there.</li><li>Have you listened to what we consider to be our sister podcasts: <a href="https://wickedwallflowersclub.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Wicked Wallflowers</a>, <a href="https://heavingbosoms.libsyn.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heaving Bosoms</a>, and <a href="https://blackchicklit.com/podcast/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Chick Lit</a>? We also love <a href="https://learningthetropes.podbean.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learning the Tropes</a> and <a href="https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/astroesq/rombkpod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">RomBkPod</a>. Check them out for all your listening needs.</li><li><a href="https://tech.co/news/facebook-bad-stanford-study-2019-02" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Facebook is garbage</a> and <a href="https://www.inc.com/jason-aten/why-facebooks-biggest-problem-isnt-fake-news-or-privacy-its-mark-zuckerberg.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Zuckerberg is aiming for Bond Villain</a>.</li><li>The modern day dirty priest fantasy is <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Fleabag-Season-1/dp/B01J4SNM8K" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fleabag</a>, the old school one is <a href="https://www.amazon.com/The-Thorn-Birds/dp/B00932AQF0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Thornbirds</a>.</li><li>If you're not following <a href="https://twitter.com/JenniferRNN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen Porter on Twitter</a>, what are you doing with your life?</li><li>Sierra's <a href="https://amzn.to/2CfbkSv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Markham Hall series</a> is an erotic retelling of <a href="https://daily.jstor.org/sorry-but-jane-eyre-isnt-the-perfect-romance-you-want-it-to-be/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jane Eyre</a>.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1160287448578101248" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1147131947975659520" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">doesn't</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1080595994667085824" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">like</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1142830284683063302" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">first</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1044337228040863744" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">person</a><a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1038510992307773440" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> present</a>.</li><li>What does it even mean to be <a href="https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-history-of-star-crossed-lovers-1440602092" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">star-crossed</a>?</li><li>More about <a href="https://owl.purdue.edu/owl/subject_specific_writing/writing_in_literature/literary_theory_and_schools_of_criticism/reader_response_criticism.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">reader response theory</a>.</li><li>A defintion of <a href="https://narrativefirst.com/articles/framing-devices-and-what-they-mean/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"framing device"</a> and how they work in fiction.</li><li>In the Catholic Church, <a href="http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11618c.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">penance</a> is one of <a href="https://www.loyolapress.com/our-catholic-faith/sacraments/the-seven-sacraments/the-seven-sacramentsarticle2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">seven sacraments</a>.</li><li>In case you want to know more about <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cilice" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">hairshirts</a> as a thing, but please don't wear one.</li><li>In the <a href="https://amzn.to/34z5B6g" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ice Planet Barbarians series</a>, the <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1191742499838017536" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">khui</a> is a mystical thing on the ice planet. That's really all you need to know.</li><li>More about <a href="http://smallstatebighistory.com/the-first-catholic-mass-in-rhode-island-newport-1780/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the history of Rhode Island as a haven for escaped Catholics</a>. No not that kind of <a href="https://www.ncronline.org/news/opinion/why-i-left-church-and-what-im-hearing-about-it" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">escaped Catholic</a>.</li><li>The <a href="http://www.historyvshollywood.com/reelfaces/spotlight/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2015 movie </a><a href="https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/spotlight-2015" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spotlight</a> is about the investigative journalists who broke the story of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Archdiocese_of_Boston_sex_abuse_scandal" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">priest sexual abuse in Boston</a>. In one famous scene, a reporter knock on the door of a retired priest who <a href="https://youtu.be/CW2M1ZyYArk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">answers her questions in a shocking way</a>. (All the trigger warnings on that scene, by the way.)</li><li>Mark Ruffalo <a href="https://www.unilad.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/HULK.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the hulk</a> vs Mark Ruffalo <a href="https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/0dc11bae0c3286d9c9172aee8417d7ed86685f26/0_0_5088_3054/master/5088.jpg?auto=format&amp;fit=max&amp;quality=85&amp;s=a74a06a46036064afe82ee696adbe865&amp;width=700" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">in Spotlight</a>.</li><li>Sarah recommends <a href="https://amzn.to/2CeaXHN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the audio</a> of Priest.</li><li>This summer, the Catholic Diocese of Providence <a href="https://www.providencejournal.com/news/20190701/diocese-releases-list-of-clergy-credibly-accused-of-sex-abuse" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">released the names of 50 priests</a> who were credibly accused of abuse.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clerical_celibacy_in_the_Catholic_Church" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Celibacy</a> is a core tenent of Catholic priesthood, but as less and less men enter the priesthood, that <a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2019/10/07/pope-francis-celibacy-requirement-some-priests-may-waived/3896740002/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">might be changing</a> in some interesting ways. Please note that the Vatican is more likely to lift celibacy requirements before they'd allow the <a href="http://www.womenpriestsproject.org/intro" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ordination of women</a>.</li><li><a href="https://eddieizzard.com/en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Eddie Izzard</a>.</li><li>If this is the defintiion of an <a href="https://authorkristenlamb.com/2017/06/why-the-world-needs-more-inspirational-romance/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">inspirational romance</a>, then Priest qualifies.</li><li>The Tessa Bailey book with "baby girl" is <a href="https://amzn.to/36EHHYD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fix Her Up</a>. It's hot if you don't mind that sort of thing.</li><li><a...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s <em>Priest</em> week! Sarah put Sierra Simone’s Priest on her Books that Blooded Her list, and this episode is a ride! Jen’s reading first person narrative, we’re both escaped catholics, Sarah imprinted on The Thornbirds, we’ll get to the bottom of anal sex in church (see what we did there?), and fully disagree about how much guilt is too much guilt for a hero. Plus, you’ll hear us tell you how brilliant we think Sierra is. </p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review!</p><p>In two weeks, we’re going to a classic of classics! The read was on both Jen &amp; Sarah’s list—Loretta Chase’s <em>Lord of Scoundrels</em>, which is on the lions’ share of Best Romance Novels Ever lists. We’ll get into why. Read <em>Lord of Scoundrels</em> at <a href="https://amzn.to/2oQXq61" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/lord-of-scoundrels-loretta-chase/1100616009?ean=9780061753817" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/lord-of-scoundrels/id360602857?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/lord-of-scoundrels" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9780380776160" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>.</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>We love Sierra Simone! Sarah talked about Sinner on <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/25-best-friends-sibling-romances-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Best Friend's Sibling episode</a>, and <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/4/29/12-macrieve" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sierra was a special guest on our MacRieve episode</a>. She'll also be joining us on a very special future interstitial.</li><li>Will Kresley drop Munro <a href="https://variety.com/2019/music/news/beyonce-drops-surprise-40-track-homecoming-album-1203191449/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">like Beyonce</a>? One can only hope.</li><li>If you want to join Sarah's FB <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/osrbc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Old School Romance Book Club</a> group, click here and wait for moderator approval. We (try to remember but sometimes have to be reminded to) post a discussion post for each week's episode there.</li><li>Have you listened to what we consider to be our sister podcasts: <a href="https://wickedwallflowersclub.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Wicked Wallflowers</a>, <a href="https://heavingbosoms.libsyn.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heaving Bosoms</a>, and <a href="https://blackchicklit.com/podcast/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Chick Lit</a>? We also love <a href="https://learningthetropes.podbean.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learning the Tropes</a> and <a href="https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/astroesq/rombkpod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">RomBkPod</a>. Check them out for all your listening needs.</li><li><a href="https://tech.co/news/facebook-bad-stanford-study-2019-02" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Facebook is garbage</a> and <a href="https://www.inc.com/jason-aten/why-facebooks-biggest-problem-isnt-fake-news-or-privacy-its-mark-zuckerberg.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Zuckerberg is aiming for Bond Villain</a>.</li><li>The modern day dirty priest fantasy is <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Fleabag-Season-1/dp/B01J4SNM8K" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fleabag</a>, the old school one is <a href="https://www.amazon.com/The-Thorn-Birds/dp/B00932AQF0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Thornbirds</a>.</li><li>If you're not following <a href="https://twitter.com/JenniferRNN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen Porter on Twitter</a>, what are you doing with your life?</li><li>Sierra's <a href="https://amzn.to/2CfbkSv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Markham Hall series</a> is an erotic retelling of <a href="https://daily.jstor.org/sorry-but-jane-eyre-isnt-the-perfect-romance-you-want-it-to-be/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jane Eyre</a>.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1160287448578101248" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1147131947975659520" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">doesn't</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1080595994667085824" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">like</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1142830284683063302" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">first</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1044337228040863744" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">person</a><a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1038510992307773440" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> present</a>.</li><li>What does it even mean to be <a href="https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-history-of-star-crossed-lovers-1440602092" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">star-crossed</a>?</li><li>More about <a href="https://owl.purdue.edu/owl/subject_specific_writing/writing_in_literature/literary_theory_and_schools_of_criticism/reader_response_criticism.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">reader response theory</a>.</li><li>A defintion of <a href="https://narrativefirst.com/articles/framing-devices-and-what-they-mean/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"framing device"</a> and how they work in fiction.</li><li>In the Catholic Church, <a href="http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11618c.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">penance</a> is one of <a href="https://www.loyolapress.com/our-catholic-faith/sacraments/the-seven-sacraments/the-seven-sacramentsarticle2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">seven sacraments</a>.</li><li>In case you want to know more about <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cilice" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">hairshirts</a> as a thing, but please don't wear one.</li><li>In the <a href="https://amzn.to/34z5B6g" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ice Planet Barbarians series</a>, the <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1191742499838017536" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">khui</a> is a mystical thing on the ice planet. That's really all you need to know.</li><li>More about <a href="http://smallstatebighistory.com/the-first-catholic-mass-in-rhode-island-newport-1780/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the history of Rhode Island as a haven for escaped Catholics</a>. No not that kind of <a href="https://www.ncronline.org/news/opinion/why-i-left-church-and-what-im-hearing-about-it" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">escaped Catholic</a>.</li><li>The <a href="http://www.historyvshollywood.com/reelfaces/spotlight/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2015 movie </a><a href="https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/spotlight-2015" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spotlight</a> is about the investigative journalists who broke the story of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Archdiocese_of_Boston_sex_abuse_scandal" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">priest sexual abuse in Boston</a>. In one famous scene, a reporter knock on the door of a retired priest who <a href="https://youtu.be/CW2M1ZyYArk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">answers her questions in a shocking way</a>. (All the trigger warnings on that scene, by the way.)</li><li>Mark Ruffalo <a href="https://www.unilad.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/HULK.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the hulk</a> vs Mark Ruffalo <a href="https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/0dc11bae0c3286d9c9172aee8417d7ed86685f26/0_0_5088_3054/master/5088.jpg?auto=format&amp;fit=max&amp;quality=85&amp;s=a74a06a46036064afe82ee696adbe865&amp;width=700" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">in Spotlight</a>.</li><li>Sarah recommends <a href="https://amzn.to/2CeaXHN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the audio</a> of Priest.</li><li>This summer, the Catholic Diocese of Providence <a href="https://www.providencejournal.com/news/20190701/diocese-releases-list-of-clergy-credibly-accused-of-sex-abuse" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">released the names of 50 priests</a> who were credibly accused of abuse.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clerical_celibacy_in_the_Catholic_Church" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Celibacy</a> is a core tenent of Catholic priesthood, but as less and less men enter the priesthood, that <a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2019/10/07/pope-francis-celibacy-requirement-some-priests-may-waived/3896740002/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">might be changing</a> in some interesting ways. Please note that the Vatican is more likely to lift celibacy requirements before they'd allow the <a href="http://www.womenpriestsproject.org/intro" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ordination of women</a>.</li><li><a href="https://eddieizzard.com/en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Eddie Izzard</a>.</li><li>If this is the defintiion of an <a href="https://authorkristenlamb.com/2017/06/why-the-world-needs-more-inspirational-romance/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">inspirational romance</a>, then Priest qualifies.</li><li>The Tessa Bailey book with "baby girl" is <a href="https://amzn.to/36EHHYD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fix Her Up</a>. It's hot if you don't mind that sort of thing.</li><li><a href="http://www.usccb.org/issues-and-action/child-and-youth-protection/upload/The-Causes-and-Context-of-Sexual-Abuse-of-Minors-by-Catholic-Priests-in-the-United-States-1950-2010.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What we know about priests and sexual abuse</a>.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/34sjpPI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hot Cop</a> is a book by Sierra Simone and Laurelin Page.</li><li>In season 2 of Fleabag, <a href="https://www.goldderby.com/article/2019/emmys-fiona-shaw-fleabag-counsellor-episode-2/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the therapist who asks if she wants to "fuck the priest or fuck God" was played by Fiona Shaw</a>. <a href="https://www.latimes.com/entertainment/la-et-menopause-20190524-story.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kristen Scott Thomas gives a barn burner of a speech</a> after the "people are all we have" moment.</li><li>All about <a href="https://www.iep.utm.edu/anselm/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Saint Anselm</a>.</li><li>In case you don't know, the home at the parish for the priest is called the <a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rectory" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">rectory</a>.</li><li>Sarah refers to the book of the Bible as <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Song_of_Songs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Song of Songs</a>, but it's also called the <a href="https://thebibleproject.com/explore/song-of-songs/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Song of Solomon</a>.</li><li>Jenny Nordbak was a guest host on Heaving Bosoms talking about Priest, and <a href="http://heavingbosoms.libsyn.com/ep-67-priest-by-sierra-simone-with-special-guest-jenny-nordbak" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">it's a great episode</a> if you just need more. Sierra Simone was also on a delicious episode of <a href="https://wickedwallflowersclub.com/2019/01/30/sierra-simone/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wicked Wallflowers</a>!</li><li>The sequel to Priest is called <a href="https://amzn.to/32g3yT2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Midnight Mass</a>.</li><li>Why is a nun's outfit called a <a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/habit" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">habit</a>?</li><li>Erin from Heaving Bosoms famously <a href="https://twitter.com/Heaving_Bosoms/status/1153034123457359872" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">does not read prologues or epilogues</a>. We love her even though we don't really understand.</li><li><a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/shop" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shop for buttons from Best Friend Kelly</a> and t-shirts and totes from Sarah.</li><li>Christina called in today to talk about Colleen McCullough's <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Thorn-Birds-Colleen-McCullough-ebook/dp/B000FC146C/ref=sr_1_1?crid=QFM6ZGLIRCII&amp;keywords=the%20thorn%20birds&amp;qid=1573009695&amp;sprefix=the%20Thor%2Caps%2C409&amp;sr=8-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Thornbirds</a>, and we hope she enjoyed Sarah's shout out to it this week!</li><li>Coming up: <a href="https://amzn.to/2NHKzeT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lord of Scoundrels</a> by Loretta Chase on Nov 20, 2019; <a href="https://amzn.to/2NBQjGI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Indigo</a> by Beverly Jenkins on Dec 4, 2019; <a href="https://amzn.to/34yVXk2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Born in Ice</a> by Nora Roberts on Dec 18, 2019; and <a href="https://amzn.to/2oQJEAn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Kingdom of Dreams</a> by Judith McNaught on Jan 8, 2020.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/11/4/s029-priest-by-sierra-simone </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/11/4/s029-priest-by-sierra-simone]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5dc0cf9dc211b23ac00f0ff8</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 06 Nov 2019 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/2767c611-9bc0-4784-837c-ea9370cfbc03/fated-mates-priest-final.mp3" length="85696332" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:23:30</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>9</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:summary>It’s Priest week! Sarah put Sierra Simone’s Priest on her Books that Blooded Her list, and this episode is a ride! Jen’s reading first person narrative, we’re both escaped catholics, Sarah imprinted on The Thornbirds, we’ll get to the bottom of anal sex in church (see what we did there?), and fully disagree about how much guilt is too much guilt for a hero. Plus, you’ll hear us tell you how brilliant we think Sierra is.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-2767c611-9bc0-4784-837c-ea9370cfbc03.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S02.08: Competence &amp; Careers in Romance</title><itunes:title>Competence &amp; Careers in Romance</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Today, we’re talking jobs in romance novels—why we love them, when we hate them, what’s the proper  work/smooch balance, and what we mean when we say “competence porn.” This is a far reaching, many-rec episode that involves discussion of billionaires, of wealth, of power, of what Sarah means when she says heroes have to be kings, no matter what. We’ll also try to get to the bottom of what an Enterprise Holding, LTD is. Nah, that’s a lie, because who cares?! Oh, and stay tuned for Sarah’s treatise on the importance of local journalism. </p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to Fated Mates in your favorite podcasting platform — subscriptions mean so much! While you’re there, please leave us a like or a review if you feel so inclined!</p><p>Next week, we’re taking you to blasphemy town! Or are we?! The read is Sarah’s pick, Sierra Simone’s Priest, which is an erotic romance in first-person hero POV, featuring a priest and an exotic dancer (NB: She is not Catholic). If sex in church is your concern, maybe skip this one, but also know that there’s a lot fo religious allegory in here that is fascinating and brilliant. Content warning for discussion of the Catholic Church and sexual abuse. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/2W3x8cH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/priest-sierra-simone/1122129279" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/priest/id1134817317?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/priest-21" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781732172234" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>.</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Jen said <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1175892103727128580" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fossils are boring</a>. It wasn't a good look.</li><li>Defining <a href="https://commonreader.wustl.edu/competence-porn-for-the-rest-of-us/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">competence porn</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.bustle.com/articles/61955-what-is-christian-greys-job-in-fifty-shades-of-grey-his-company-is-as-singular-as" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Christian Grey at work</a>.</li><li>Despite when Jen said, most sex toys are <a href="http://www.holisticwisdom.com/sex-toy-materials-neoprene.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">not made out of neoprene</a>. And please <a href="https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/sex-toy-materials-safety" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">be cautious about the sex toys you buy</a>.</li><li><a href="https://hbr.org/2008/05/overcoming-imposter-syndrome" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Imposter syndrome</a> is the worst for everyone but <a href="https://twitter.com/ForArya/status/1188186578071556102" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">these guys</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/melodywilding/2018/04/23/do-you-have-a-job-career-or-calling-the-difference-matters/#5fc253e7632a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Job versus career versus vocation</a>.</li><li>The Joanna Shupe book about the architect is actually called <a href="https://amzn.to/34fSiqS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Scandalous Deal</a>.</li><li> If you do want to read books about fossils, <a href="https://amzn.to/36kFsd8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amanda Quick</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/31UlhPK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tessa Dare</a> have them. Eloisa James does not. <a href="https://amzn.to/31W9WhW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Manda Collins</a> does. Sarah MacLean does not.</li><li>What's wrong with "<a href="https://studybreaks.com/culture/not-like-other-girls/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Not Like Other Girls</a>."</li><li>What's a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluestocking" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bluestocking</a>?</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doogie_Howser,_M.D." rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Doogie Howser</a> was a doctor, not an astrophysicist.</li><li>How to avoid the "<a href="https://www.buzzfeed.com/maritsapatrinos/do-the-do" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What do you do</a>" <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/mar/08/americans-job-uncertainty-looking-for-new-life-meaning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">question</a>.</li><li>The recent <a href="https://www.vox.com/2019/10/2/20883827/supreme-court-lgbtq-discrimination-title-vii-civil-rights-gay-trans-queer" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Supreme Court case</a> about the rights of queer people to work.</li><li>Sarah mentioned an article about how <a href="https://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2019/oct/16/tom-steyer/tom-steyers-half-true-claim-90-americans-have-not-/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Americans haven't gotten a raise in 40 year</a>s, and Jen mentioned the struggle to stay in the <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/10/03/your-money/middle-class-income.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">middle class</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.newyorker.com/news/dispatch/chicago-prepares-to-elect-its-first-black-female-mayor" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lori Lightfoot</a> won the Chicago mayor's election, but here's the story about her background and <a href="https://southsideweekly.com/op-ed-lori-lightfoots-dark-promises-policing/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">why Black Lives Matter activists are worried</a>.</li><li>The thing Jen made into a job: <a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/features/author/jennifer-prokop/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">writing about romance for Kirkus</a>.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_School_Musical_2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">High School Musical 2</a> had the "I need a college scholarship" plot.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roseanne" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Roseanne</a> and <a href="https://filmdaily.co/obsessions/roseanne-return-working-class-families-tv/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">class on television</a>.</li><li>Jen really hated <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/this-is-not-forty" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">This is 40</a>.</li><li>Are you in Chicago? Come to Jen's romance book club at <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1181738342511185920" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">57th Street Books</a> or at <a href="https://twitter.com/lovessweetarrow/status/1185960123388350465" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love's Sweet Arrow</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/mar/19/divorce-women-risk-poverty-children-relationship" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Divorce has profoundly negative impact on women's financial security</a>.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/megelison/status/1173647495429156868" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah mentioned a twitter thread</a> about mothers telling their daughter's to have separate money and why women get jewelry as wedding gifts.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_work" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">All women work</a>, even if they don't have a job outside the home.</li><li><a href="https://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2017/08/15/the-nations-teaching-force-is-still-mostly.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">An overwhelming majority of American school teachers are white women</a>.</li><li>You should read <a href="https://amzn.to/2BWcW3f" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Catch and Kill</a> if you can, but the story about how it impacted <a href="https://ew.com/celebrity/2019/10/15/ronan-farrow-engaged-jon-lovett/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ronan Farrow's relationship</a> is also interesting.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1186460161193447424" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Subscribe to your local newspaper</a>!</li><li>This week, caller Samantha from <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuala_Lumpur" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kuala Lumpur</a> recommends <a href="https://amzn.to/2MX3vqD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spellbound by Nora Roberts</a>.</li><li>Next up is <a href="https://amzn.to/2Nnlp4P" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Priest</a> from Sierra Simone.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/10/29/s028-competence-amp-careers-in-romance-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer"...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today, we’re talking jobs in romance novels—why we love them, when we hate them, what’s the proper  work/smooch balance, and what we mean when we say “competence porn.” This is a far reaching, many-rec episode that involves discussion of billionaires, of wealth, of power, of what Sarah means when she says heroes have to be kings, no matter what. We’ll also try to get to the bottom of what an Enterprise Holding, LTD is. Nah, that’s a lie, because who cares?! Oh, and stay tuned for Sarah’s treatise on the importance of local journalism. </p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to Fated Mates in your favorite podcasting platform — subscriptions mean so much! While you’re there, please leave us a like or a review if you feel so inclined!</p><p>Next week, we’re taking you to blasphemy town! Or are we?! The read is Sarah’s pick, Sierra Simone’s Priest, which is an erotic romance in first-person hero POV, featuring a priest and an exotic dancer (NB: She is not Catholic). If sex in church is your concern, maybe skip this one, but also know that there’s a lot fo religious allegory in here that is fascinating and brilliant. Content warning for discussion of the Catholic Church and sexual abuse. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/2W3x8cH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/priest-sierra-simone/1122129279" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/priest/id1134817317?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/priest-21" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781732172234" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>.</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Jen said <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1175892103727128580" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fossils are boring</a>. It wasn't a good look.</li><li>Defining <a href="https://commonreader.wustl.edu/competence-porn-for-the-rest-of-us/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">competence porn</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.bustle.com/articles/61955-what-is-christian-greys-job-in-fifty-shades-of-grey-his-company-is-as-singular-as" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Christian Grey at work</a>.</li><li>Despite when Jen said, most sex toys are <a href="http://www.holisticwisdom.com/sex-toy-materials-neoprene.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">not made out of neoprene</a>. And please <a href="https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/sex-toy-materials-safety" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">be cautious about the sex toys you buy</a>.</li><li><a href="https://hbr.org/2008/05/overcoming-imposter-syndrome" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Imposter syndrome</a> is the worst for everyone but <a href="https://twitter.com/ForArya/status/1188186578071556102" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">these guys</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/melodywilding/2018/04/23/do-you-have-a-job-career-or-calling-the-difference-matters/#5fc253e7632a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Job versus career versus vocation</a>.</li><li>The Joanna Shupe book about the architect is actually called <a href="https://amzn.to/34fSiqS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Scandalous Deal</a>.</li><li> If you do want to read books about fossils, <a href="https://amzn.to/36kFsd8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amanda Quick</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/31UlhPK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tessa Dare</a> have them. Eloisa James does not. <a href="https://amzn.to/31W9WhW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Manda Collins</a> does. Sarah MacLean does not.</li><li>What's wrong with "<a href="https://studybreaks.com/culture/not-like-other-girls/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Not Like Other Girls</a>."</li><li>What's a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluestocking" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bluestocking</a>?</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doogie_Howser,_M.D." rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Doogie Howser</a> was a doctor, not an astrophysicist.</li><li>How to avoid the "<a href="https://www.buzzfeed.com/maritsapatrinos/do-the-do" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What do you do</a>" <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/mar/08/americans-job-uncertainty-looking-for-new-life-meaning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">question</a>.</li><li>The recent <a href="https://www.vox.com/2019/10/2/20883827/supreme-court-lgbtq-discrimination-title-vii-civil-rights-gay-trans-queer" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Supreme Court case</a> about the rights of queer people to work.</li><li>Sarah mentioned an article about how <a href="https://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2019/oct/16/tom-steyer/tom-steyers-half-true-claim-90-americans-have-not-/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Americans haven't gotten a raise in 40 year</a>s, and Jen mentioned the struggle to stay in the <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/10/03/your-money/middle-class-income.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">middle class</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.newyorker.com/news/dispatch/chicago-prepares-to-elect-its-first-black-female-mayor" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lori Lightfoot</a> won the Chicago mayor's election, but here's the story about her background and <a href="https://southsideweekly.com/op-ed-lori-lightfoots-dark-promises-policing/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">why Black Lives Matter activists are worried</a>.</li><li>The thing Jen made into a job: <a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/features/author/jennifer-prokop/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">writing about romance for Kirkus</a>.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_School_Musical_2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">High School Musical 2</a> had the "I need a college scholarship" plot.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roseanne" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Roseanne</a> and <a href="https://filmdaily.co/obsessions/roseanne-return-working-class-families-tv/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">class on television</a>.</li><li>Jen really hated <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/this-is-not-forty" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">This is 40</a>.</li><li>Are you in Chicago? Come to Jen's romance book club at <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1181738342511185920" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">57th Street Books</a> or at <a href="https://twitter.com/lovessweetarrow/status/1185960123388350465" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love's Sweet Arrow</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/mar/19/divorce-women-risk-poverty-children-relationship" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Divorce has profoundly negative impact on women's financial security</a>.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/megelison/status/1173647495429156868" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah mentioned a twitter thread</a> about mothers telling their daughter's to have separate money and why women get jewelry as wedding gifts.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_work" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">All women work</a>, even if they don't have a job outside the home.</li><li><a href="https://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2017/08/15/the-nations-teaching-force-is-still-mostly.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">An overwhelming majority of American school teachers are white women</a>.</li><li>You should read <a href="https://amzn.to/2BWcW3f" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Catch and Kill</a> if you can, but the story about how it impacted <a href="https://ew.com/celebrity/2019/10/15/ronan-farrow-engaged-jon-lovett/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ronan Farrow's relationship</a> is also interesting.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1186460161193447424" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Subscribe to your local newspaper</a>!</li><li>This week, caller Samantha from <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuala_Lumpur" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kuala Lumpur</a> recommends <a href="https://amzn.to/2MX3vqD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spellbound by Nora Roberts</a>.</li><li>Next up is <a href="https://amzn.to/2Nnlp4P" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Priest</a> from Sierra Simone.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/10/29/s028-competence-amp-careers-in-romance-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/10/29/s028-competence-amp-careers-in-romance-interstitial]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5db84e268236d30db8fecd9e</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 30 Oct 2019 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/7077fd93-9d92-4abc-8d62-68802e984e97/fated-mates-competence-porn-final.mp3" length="70089862" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:06:05</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>8</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Today, we’re talking jobs in romance novels—why we love them, when we hate them, what’s the proper  work/smooch balance, and what we mean when we say “competence porn.” This is a far reaching, many-rec episode that involves discussion of billionaires, of wealth, of power, of what Sarah means when she says heroes have to be kings, no matter what. We’ll also try to get to the bottom of what an Enterprise Holding, LTD is. Nah, that’s a lie, because who cares?! Oh, and stay tuned for Sarah’s treatise on the importance of local journalism.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-7077fd93-9d92-4abc-8d62-68802e984e97.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S02.07: That&apos;s Spelled J-E-H-N: Dark Lover</title><itunes:title>That&apos;s Spelled J-E-H-N: Dark Lover</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Woof, you guys. Woof. This week we’re talking a whole different kind of Vampires (not a single one chained to a radiator…we love u, Conrad) — with JR Ward’s <em>Dark Lover</em> — the first in the Black Dagger Brotherhood Series! We’re talking a LOT this week about toxic masculinity, about the world post 9/11, about what we expect from heroines, about the entire BDB series, and about what the heck is going on in these books. We also get all the titles wrong, as usual.</p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review!</p><p>In two weeks, we’re getting more current! The read is Sarah’s Pick, Sierra Simone’s Priest, which is an erotic romance in first-person hero POV, featuring a priest and an exotic dancer (NB: She is not Catholic). If sex in church is your concern, maybe skip this one, but also know that there’s a lot fo religious allegory in here that is fascinating and brilliant. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/2W3x8cH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/priest-sierra-simone/1122129279" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/priest/id1134817317?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/priest-21" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781732172234" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>.</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>JR Ward's first pen name was <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/173783.Jessica_Bird" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jessica Bird</a>.</li><li>Despite Jen's joke about <a href="https://lithub.com/really-heres-why-you-should-read-proust/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Proust</a>, she's never actually read him.</li><li>Some of the most famous vampire books in fiction were Anne Rice's <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interview_with_the_Vampire" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Interview with a Vampire</a> and <a href="https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1988-11-06-bk-44-story.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Queen of the Damned</a>. And let's not forget <a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/dorothypomerantz/2012/11/16/looking-at-twilight-by-the-numbers/#6067734f3195" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twilight</a>.</li><li>In romance, you should check out the <a href="http://www.lynsaysands.net/books/index.html#argeneau" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Argeneau series</a> by Lynsay Sands, or any number of books by <a href="http://jeanienefrost.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jeaniene Frost</a>. Nalini Singh's <a href="https://nalinisingh.com/books/guild-hunter-series/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Guild Hunters</a> series has a vampire hunter. <a href="https://www.sherrilynkenyon.com/book-series/dark-hunter/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sherrilyn Kenyon</a> also has lots of books in this category. In urban fantasy, of course there was the <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/series/42636-sookie-stackhouse" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sookie Stackhouse</a> series, and it's TV adaptation <a href="https://www.hbo.com/true-blood" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">True Blood</a>.</li><li>In fact, the 90s were full of vampires in the movies and on TV: Keanu Reeves in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bram_Stoker%27s_Dracula" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bram Stoker's Dracula</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffy_the_Vampire_Slayer" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Buffy the Vampire Slayer</a>, and if you've never seen it, the <a href="https://youtu.be/gHBhKbF2xMA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">opening scene from Blade</a> that Jen mentioned.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1180999178031390721" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah would like you to consider the fact</a> that very few people know who Mary Shelley is, but Francis Ford Coppola made a blockbuster movie with Bram Stoker's name in the actual title because patriarchy is a helluva drug.</li><li>Is it romance or <a href="https://melissafolson.com/what-the-hell-is-urban-fantasy/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">urban fantasy</a>?</li><li>The <a href="https://www.louisville.com/content/anti-romantic" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">JR Ward interview</a> was in Louisville Magazine.</li><li><a href="https://wickedwallflowersclub.com/2019/08/28/ward/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Wicked Wallflowers interviewed JR Ward</a> and it's just terrific.</li><li>Jen read all the RITAs, and she reviewed <a href="https://twitter.com/JenRitas/status/1121183756881100807" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Consumed</a> in the romantic suspense category and <a href="https://twitter.com/JenRitas/status/1126818560435732480" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dearest Ivie</a> in the paranormal category.</li><li>All about <a href="https://www.vulture.com/2012/12/talking-to-a-gun-expert-about-sawed-off-shotguns.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sawed-off shotguns</a>.</li><li>Sarah said John Michael, but OF COURSE she meant John Matthew. Maybe you should read <a href="https://amzn.to/33StN32" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lover John Matthew and Xhex</a>.</li><li>Mary Bly's article about the Black Dagger Brotherhood appears in <a href="https://amzn.to/2pE1DtL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">New Approaches to Popular Romance Fiction</a>.</li><li>The Lessers as <a href="https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/2019/4/16/18287446/incel-definition-reddit" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Incels</a>.</li><li>Caldwell is like the <a href="https://theimaginativeconservative.org/2019/05/americas-urban-nightmare-gotham-city-bradley-birzer.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">world of</a> <a href="http://mentalfloss.com/article/62563/why-new-york-city-called-gotham" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gotham</a>... and why it seems so <a href="https://www.iep.utm.edu/nihilism/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">nihilistic</a>.</li><li>Beth and Wrath's story continues in <a href="https://amzn.to/2Pabty9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The King</a>, or as we like to call it here at Fated Mates, Lover Wrath and Beth Part 2.</li><li>It's <a href="https://amzn.to/33R8DSQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lover Phury and Cormia</a>, and then <a href="https://amzn.to/2N2bEch" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lover Rhevenge and Ehlena</a>, and <a href="https://amzn.to/2MGOeKF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lover Quinn and Blay</a>.</li><li>The <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/23/books/23kaku.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Susan Faludi book</a> <a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/susan-faludi/the-terror-dream/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah mentioned</a> is called <a href="https://amzn.to/2N3pqeH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Terror Dream: Myth and Misogyny in an Insecure America</a>.</li><li>We don't think Beth is a <a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/these-women-coined-term-mary-sue-180972182/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mary Sue</a>, and JR Ward doesn't either.</li><li>A guide to the <a href="https://www.vox.com/2018/3/20/16955588/feminism-waves-explained-first-second-third-fourth" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">waves of feminism</a>.</li><li>A <a href="https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/how-much-does-a-355-weigh.190885/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ferrari doesn't weight 2000 tons</a>. <a href="https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/how-much-is-a-ton.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A ton is 2000 pounds</a>.</li><li>Wellsie is maybe a stand in for <a href="https://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/2081867-wellesley-vs-smith.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Smith vs. Wellesley</a>.</li><li>Jen was reading <a href="https://commons.marymount.edu/magnificat/turning-a-blind-eye-the-ethical-implications-of-blindness-in-native-son/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Native Son in college when her professor told her blindness is always a symbol</a>. <a href="https://www.litcharts.com/lit/oedipus-rex/themes/sight-vs-blindness" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Oedipus blinded himself</a>, and <a href="https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BlindSeer" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">oracles are seers are often blind</a>. <a href="https://youtu.be/B66feInucFY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Daredevil is blind and can still kick your ass</a>. The other most famous Blind King Jen could find is in <a href="https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2018/10/17/assassins-creed-odyssey-the-blind-king-where-to-find-the-five-monuments-for-the-prince-of-persia-4/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Assassin's Creed</a>.</li><li>Next up is <a href="https://amzn.to/2oVrZaQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Priest</a> by Sierra Simone.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/10/20/s027-dark-lover </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woof, you guys. Woof. This week we’re talking a whole different kind of Vampires (not a single one chained to a radiator…we love u, Conrad) — with JR Ward’s <em>Dark Lover</em> — the first in the Black Dagger Brotherhood Series! We’re talking a LOT this week about toxic masculinity, about the world post 9/11, about what we expect from heroines, about the entire BDB series, and about what the heck is going on in these books. We also get all the titles wrong, as usual.</p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review!</p><p>In two weeks, we’re getting more current! The read is Sarah’s Pick, Sierra Simone’s Priest, which is an erotic romance in first-person hero POV, featuring a priest and an exotic dancer (NB: She is not Catholic). If sex in church is your concern, maybe skip this one, but also know that there’s a lot fo religious allegory in here that is fascinating and brilliant. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/2W3x8cH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/priest-sierra-simone/1122129279" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/priest/id1134817317?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/priest-21" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781732172234" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>.</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>JR Ward's first pen name was <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/173783.Jessica_Bird" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jessica Bird</a>.</li><li>Despite Jen's joke about <a href="https://lithub.com/really-heres-why-you-should-read-proust/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Proust</a>, she's never actually read him.</li><li>Some of the most famous vampire books in fiction were Anne Rice's <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interview_with_the_Vampire" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Interview with a Vampire</a> and <a href="https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1988-11-06-bk-44-story.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Queen of the Damned</a>. And let's not forget <a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/dorothypomerantz/2012/11/16/looking-at-twilight-by-the-numbers/#6067734f3195" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twilight</a>.</li><li>In romance, you should check out the <a href="http://www.lynsaysands.net/books/index.html#argeneau" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Argeneau series</a> by Lynsay Sands, or any number of books by <a href="http://jeanienefrost.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jeaniene Frost</a>. Nalini Singh's <a href="https://nalinisingh.com/books/guild-hunter-series/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Guild Hunters</a> series has a vampire hunter. <a href="https://www.sherrilynkenyon.com/book-series/dark-hunter/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sherrilyn Kenyon</a> also has lots of books in this category. In urban fantasy, of course there was the <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/series/42636-sookie-stackhouse" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sookie Stackhouse</a> series, and it's TV adaptation <a href="https://www.hbo.com/true-blood" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">True Blood</a>.</li><li>In fact, the 90s were full of vampires in the movies and on TV: Keanu Reeves in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bram_Stoker%27s_Dracula" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bram Stoker's Dracula</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffy_the_Vampire_Slayer" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Buffy the Vampire Slayer</a>, and if you've never seen it, the <a href="https://youtu.be/gHBhKbF2xMA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">opening scene from Blade</a> that Jen mentioned.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1180999178031390721" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah would like you to consider the fact</a> that very few people know who Mary Shelley is, but Francis Ford Coppola made a blockbuster movie with Bram Stoker's name in the actual title because patriarchy is a helluva drug.</li><li>Is it romance or <a href="https://melissafolson.com/what-the-hell-is-urban-fantasy/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">urban fantasy</a>?</li><li>The <a href="https://www.louisville.com/content/anti-romantic" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">JR Ward interview</a> was in Louisville Magazine.</li><li><a href="https://wickedwallflowersclub.com/2019/08/28/ward/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Wicked Wallflowers interviewed JR Ward</a> and it's just terrific.</li><li>Jen read all the RITAs, and she reviewed <a href="https://twitter.com/JenRitas/status/1121183756881100807" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Consumed</a> in the romantic suspense category and <a href="https://twitter.com/JenRitas/status/1126818560435732480" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dearest Ivie</a> in the paranormal category.</li><li>All about <a href="https://www.vulture.com/2012/12/talking-to-a-gun-expert-about-sawed-off-shotguns.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sawed-off shotguns</a>.</li><li>Sarah said John Michael, but OF COURSE she meant John Matthew. Maybe you should read <a href="https://amzn.to/33StN32" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lover John Matthew and Xhex</a>.</li><li>Mary Bly's article about the Black Dagger Brotherhood appears in <a href="https://amzn.to/2pE1DtL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">New Approaches to Popular Romance Fiction</a>.</li><li>The Lessers as <a href="https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/2019/4/16/18287446/incel-definition-reddit" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Incels</a>.</li><li>Caldwell is like the <a href="https://theimaginativeconservative.org/2019/05/americas-urban-nightmare-gotham-city-bradley-birzer.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">world of</a> <a href="http://mentalfloss.com/article/62563/why-new-york-city-called-gotham" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gotham</a>... and why it seems so <a href="https://www.iep.utm.edu/nihilism/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">nihilistic</a>.</li><li>Beth and Wrath's story continues in <a href="https://amzn.to/2Pabty9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The King</a>, or as we like to call it here at Fated Mates, Lover Wrath and Beth Part 2.</li><li>It's <a href="https://amzn.to/33R8DSQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lover Phury and Cormia</a>, and then <a href="https://amzn.to/2N2bEch" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lover Rhevenge and Ehlena</a>, and <a href="https://amzn.to/2MGOeKF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lover Quinn and Blay</a>.</li><li>The <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/23/books/23kaku.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Susan Faludi book</a> <a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/susan-faludi/the-terror-dream/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah mentioned</a> is called <a href="https://amzn.to/2N3pqeH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Terror Dream: Myth and Misogyny in an Insecure America</a>.</li><li>We don't think Beth is a <a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/these-women-coined-term-mary-sue-180972182/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mary Sue</a>, and JR Ward doesn't either.</li><li>A guide to the <a href="https://www.vox.com/2018/3/20/16955588/feminism-waves-explained-first-second-third-fourth" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">waves of feminism</a>.</li><li>A <a href="https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/how-much-does-a-355-weigh.190885/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ferrari doesn't weight 2000 tons</a>. <a href="https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/how-much-is-a-ton.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A ton is 2000 pounds</a>.</li><li>Wellsie is maybe a stand in for <a href="https://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/2081867-wellesley-vs-smith.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Smith vs. Wellesley</a>.</li><li>Jen was reading <a href="https://commons.marymount.edu/magnificat/turning-a-blind-eye-the-ethical-implications-of-blindness-in-native-son/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Native Son in college when her professor told her blindness is always a symbol</a>. <a href="https://www.litcharts.com/lit/oedipus-rex/themes/sight-vs-blindness" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Oedipus blinded himself</a>, and <a href="https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BlindSeer" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">oracles are seers are often blind</a>. <a href="https://youtu.be/B66feInucFY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Daredevil is blind and can still kick your ass</a>. The other most famous Blind King Jen could find is in <a href="https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2018/10/17/assassins-creed-odyssey-the-blind-king-where-to-find-the-five-monuments-for-the-prince-of-persia-4/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Assassin's Creed</a>.</li><li>Next up is <a href="https://amzn.to/2oVrZaQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Priest</a> by Sierra Simone.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/10/20/s027-dark-lover </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/10/20/s027-dark-lover]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5dace31ac7261d25b390cd68</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 23 Oct 2019 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/84c2cb85-813a-45ee-9829-3d16cf5e1091/fated-mates-darklover-final.mp3" length="87675256" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:25:50</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>7</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Woof, you guys. Woof. This week we’re talking a whole different kind of Vampires (not a single one chained to a radiator…we love u, Conrad) — with JR Ward’s Dark Lover — the first in the Black Dagger Brotherhood Series! We’re talking a LOT this week about toxic masculinity, about the world post 9/11, about what we expect from heroines, about the entire BDB series, and about what the heck is going on in these books. We also get all the titles wrong, as usual.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-84c2cb85-813a-45ee-9829-3d16cf5e1091.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S02.06: Cinnamon Roll Heroes with Andie J Christopher</title><itunes:title>Cinnamon Roll Heroes with Andie J Christopher</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We heard you! You wanted to talk about Cinnamon Roll Heroes, so here we are, and we’re bringing in an expert on the topic (in real life and in fiction) — Andie Christopher. We’re talking about the evolution and popularization of the beta in the 90s, why they became such a powerful force then, why they’re back now, and why they work so well for some readers! We’ll also talk about dating in 2019, recommend some books (obviously), and talk about Andie’s upcoming, <a href="https://amzn.to/2BiTltG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Not the Girl You Marry</a>, which is out November 12! </p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review!</p><p>Next week, we’re going back to paranormal with the first book in JR Ward’s Black Dagger Brotherhood series, <em>Dark Lover. </em>It’s a whole ride. Strap in. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/2VqUmsU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dark-lover-j-r-ward/1100315350#/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/dark-lover/id357929397?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/dark-lover-a-novel-of-the-black-dagger-brotherhood" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9780451468109" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a> (it’s currently only $2.99 in ebook!).</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>We're so excited to have Andie on the podcast -- her book, Not the Girl You Marry, is out November 12th. <a href="https://amzn.to/2BiTltG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Preorder now!</a></li><li>Do you know the importance of a <a href="https://genius.com/A-tribe-called-quest-skypager-lyrics" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sky Pager</a>?</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/EisReading/status/1148355987000217600" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Pegging Crew</a> is a nickname we use with love for the folks who bought a change to decide a Fated Mates interstitial topic.</li><li>If you're looking for romances with the <a href="https://thegreatbritishbakeoff.co.uk/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Great British Bake Off</a> energy, Sarah recommends <a href="https://amzn.to/2VJdPoR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Louisa Edwards</a>.- </li><li>Last summer, <a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/features/andie-christopher/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen interviewed Andie for Kirkus</a>.</li><li>Nancy Pelosi is <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/24/us/politics/democrats-impeachment-trump.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">taking care of business</a>.</li><li>Olivia Dade has <a href="https://oliviadade.com/2017/12/11/warning-extra-gooey-cinnamon-roll-heroes-ahead/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a great list of cinnamon roll heroes</a>, but this piece from <a href="https://local.theonion.com/beautiful-cinnamon-roll-too-good-for-this-world-too-pu-1819576048" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Onion</a> originated the term.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1142410957467148289" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Simone Scale</a> is very different from the <a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1081377472556474368" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Clayborn Curve</a>.</li><li>I guess you can decide for yourself if <a href="https://amzn.to/33vcAfS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Father Bell</a> is a cinnamon roll (whispers: especially because this will be a season 2 book that blooded us).</li><li>The only person who can ask for flowers is <a href="https://youtu.be/ohU38WJV45c" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barbra Streisand</a>.</li><li>Every time Jen mentions a fainting couch, she's thinking of this <a href="https://www.pinterest.com/eagabri/romance-novel-covers-with-fainting-couches/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">most excellent pinterest board</a> by friend of the pod <a href="https://twitter.com/bandherbooks" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@bandherbooks</a>.</li><li>Some really thoughtful tweets that were in response to our alpha episode: <a href="https://twitter.com/romansdegare/status/1174809745527623680" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Charlotte talking about lust and care</a>, and <a href="https://twitter.com/catsyreader/status/1174838595498270721" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cat talking about baggage</a>.</li><li>The <a href="https://www.rwa.org/Online/Awards/RITA/romance_trailblazers.aspx?WebsiteKey=c531524b-2ea0-41e7-a099-7e5a27062137" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">romance trailblazer videos</a> from this year's RITAs are so great.</li><li>The original <a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1132449790183264262" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">stern brunch daddy</a> tweet.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/FeministEmiIy/status/1176004780889477120" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Toxic masculinity is like acid rain</a>, not rain rain.</li><li>The <a href="https://www.thecut.com/2019/04/what-is-the-im-baby-meme.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"I'm baby"</a> meme.</li><li><a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/07/in-praise-of-marie-and-jess-the-best-couple-in-when-harry-met-sally/374428/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jess &amp; Marie</a> are pretty great.</li><li>Andie said <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/12/the-sex-recession/573949/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gen Z doesn't fuck</a>, but it sounds like they just <a href="https://i-d.vice.com/en_us/article/7xg539/millenials-gen-z-sex-dating-money" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">don't date</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/10/13/s026-cinnamon-roll-romance-heroes-interstitial-with-andie-christopher </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We heard you! You wanted to talk about Cinnamon Roll Heroes, so here we are, and we’re bringing in an expert on the topic (in real life and in fiction) — Andie Christopher. We’re talking about the evolution and popularization of the beta in the 90s, why they became such a powerful force then, why they’re back now, and why they work so well for some readers! We’ll also talk about dating in 2019, recommend some books (obviously), and talk about Andie’s upcoming, <a href="https://amzn.to/2BiTltG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Not the Girl You Marry</a>, which is out November 12! </p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review!</p><p>Next week, we’re going back to paranormal with the first book in JR Ward’s Black Dagger Brotherhood series, <em>Dark Lover. </em>It’s a whole ride. Strap in. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/2VqUmsU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dark-lover-j-r-ward/1100315350#/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/dark-lover/id357929397?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/dark-lover-a-novel-of-the-black-dagger-brotherhood" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9780451468109" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a> (it’s currently only $2.99 in ebook!).</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>We're so excited to have Andie on the podcast -- her book, Not the Girl You Marry, is out November 12th. <a href="https://amzn.to/2BiTltG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Preorder now!</a></li><li>Do you know the importance of a <a href="https://genius.com/A-tribe-called-quest-skypager-lyrics" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sky Pager</a>?</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/EisReading/status/1148355987000217600" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Pegging Crew</a> is a nickname we use with love for the folks who bought a change to decide a Fated Mates interstitial topic.</li><li>If you're looking for romances with the <a href="https://thegreatbritishbakeoff.co.uk/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Great British Bake Off</a> energy, Sarah recommends <a href="https://amzn.to/2VJdPoR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Louisa Edwards</a>.- </li><li>Last summer, <a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/features/andie-christopher/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen interviewed Andie for Kirkus</a>.</li><li>Nancy Pelosi is <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/24/us/politics/democrats-impeachment-trump.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">taking care of business</a>.</li><li>Olivia Dade has <a href="https://oliviadade.com/2017/12/11/warning-extra-gooey-cinnamon-roll-heroes-ahead/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a great list of cinnamon roll heroes</a>, but this piece from <a href="https://local.theonion.com/beautiful-cinnamon-roll-too-good-for-this-world-too-pu-1819576048" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Onion</a> originated the term.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1142410957467148289" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Simone Scale</a> is very different from the <a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1081377472556474368" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Clayborn Curve</a>.</li><li>I guess you can decide for yourself if <a href="https://amzn.to/33vcAfS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Father Bell</a> is a cinnamon roll (whispers: especially because this will be a season 2 book that blooded us).</li><li>The only person who can ask for flowers is <a href="https://youtu.be/ohU38WJV45c" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barbra Streisand</a>.</li><li>Every time Jen mentions a fainting couch, she's thinking of this <a href="https://www.pinterest.com/eagabri/romance-novel-covers-with-fainting-couches/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">most excellent pinterest board</a> by friend of the pod <a href="https://twitter.com/bandherbooks" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@bandherbooks</a>.</li><li>Some really thoughtful tweets that were in response to our alpha episode: <a href="https://twitter.com/romansdegare/status/1174809745527623680" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Charlotte talking about lust and care</a>, and <a href="https://twitter.com/catsyreader/status/1174838595498270721" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cat talking about baggage</a>.</li><li>The <a href="https://www.rwa.org/Online/Awards/RITA/romance_trailblazers.aspx?WebsiteKey=c531524b-2ea0-41e7-a099-7e5a27062137" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">romance trailblazer videos</a> from this year's RITAs are so great.</li><li>The original <a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1132449790183264262" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">stern brunch daddy</a> tweet.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/FeministEmiIy/status/1176004780889477120" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Toxic masculinity is like acid rain</a>, not rain rain.</li><li>The <a href="https://www.thecut.com/2019/04/what-is-the-im-baby-meme.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"I'm baby"</a> meme.</li><li><a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/07/in-praise-of-marie-and-jess-the-best-couple-in-when-harry-met-sally/374428/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jess &amp; Marie</a> are pretty great.</li><li>Andie said <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/12/the-sex-recession/573949/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gen Z doesn't fuck</a>, but it sounds like they just <a href="https://i-d.vice.com/en_us/article/7xg539/millenials-gen-z-sex-dating-money" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">don't date</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/10/13/s026-cinnamon-roll-romance-heroes-interstitial-with-andie-christopher </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/10/13/s026-cinnamon-roll-romance-heroes-interstitial-with-andie-christopher]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5da39f0a519bf62664e5ac94</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 16 Oct 2019 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/12af2a01-d971-4a20-914b-f8e03f2e6414/cinamonrolls-final-rev2.mp3" length="64281771" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:01:07</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>6</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We heard you! You wanted to talk about Cinnamon Roll Heroes, so here we are, and we’re bringing in an expert on the topic (in real life and in fiction) — Andie Christopher. We’re talking about the evolution and popularization of the beta in the 90s, why they became such a powerful force then, why they’re back now, and why they work so well for some readers! We’ll also talk about dating in 2019, recommend some books (obviously), and talk about Andie’s upcoming, Not the Girl You Marry, which is out November 12!</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/9fdc6296-e946-4178-ae84-22fa5cdd070c/index.html" type="text/html"/><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-12af2a01-d971-4a20-914b-f8e03f2e6414.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S02.05: James Malory Gets Bangs: Gentle Rogue</title><itunes:title>James Malory Gets Bangs: Gentle Rogue</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Sarah picked this week’s read without having read it recently, and she shockingly doesn’t regret it! We’re talking Johanna Lindsey’s Gentle Rogue—arguably one of the most beloved texts of the genre, complete with a reformed pirate and a heroine who is having absolutely none of his nonsense. We’ll talk about heroines who are sex positive, about obvious references to the slave trade that are problematic and somehow utterly glossed over, archetypal brothers, and about the shocking lack of plot in this book (which we don’t mind a bit).</p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review!</p><p>In two weeks, we’re going back to paranormal with the first book in JR Ward’s Black Dagger Brotherhood series, <em>Dark Lover. </em>It’s a whole ride. Strap in. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/2VqUmsU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dark-lover-j-r-ward/1100315350#/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/dark-lover/id357929397?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/dark-lover-a-novel-of-the-black-dagger-brotherhood" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9780451468109" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a> (it’s currently only $2.99 in ebook!).</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Jen's the <a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/features/author/jennifer-prokop/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">romance correspondent for Kirkus</a>, and she recently wrote about Fabio who appeared on the original cover of Gentle Rogue. Also, <a href="https://pictorial.jezebel.com/the-steamy-throbbing-history-of-romance-novel-covers-1832430711" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this piece</a> by <a href="https://twitter.com/kellyfaircloth/status/1096128322277425155" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kelly Faircloth</a> about romance covers is amazing.</li><li>When Sarah dreamed of Amy Schumer, I wonder if it was anything <a href="https://www.glamour.com/story/amy-schumer-dating-last-fuckable-day" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">like this</a>?</li><li><a href="https://parentingteensandtweens.com/how-to-survive-seventh-grade-and-your-tween/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">7th grade is awful</a> for everyone.</li><li><a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2015/09/the-psychology-of-voldemort/406162/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Voldemort and his horcruxes</a>.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/31YxWlw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Magic of You</a> is all about Georgie's brother Warren.</li><li>Here's some basic information about <a href="https://nlj.gov.jm/slave-trade/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">slavery in Jamaica</a> and <a href="https://runaways.gla.ac.uk/minecraft/index.php/slaves-work-on-sugar-plantations/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sugar plantations</a> in particular. And the <a href="https://www.slavevoyages.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Slave Voyages</a> site is an amazing and well-researched online archive you should also check out, which includes a <a href="https://www.slavevoyages.org/voyage/database" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">searchable database of transatlantic boats</a> and the numbers of enslaved people on board each ship.</li><li>Although we didn't mention it the podcast, if you're reading romances where <a href="https://apracticalwedding.com/plantation-wedding-offensive/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">white people have weddings, parties, or balls on plantations</a>...that's terrible.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgian_era" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Georgian</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regency_era" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Regency</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victorian_era" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Victorian</a>.</li><li>In real life, <a href="https://twitter.com/_Floodlight/status/1181325813376933890" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">billionaires</a> are <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/what-amazon-ceo-jeff-bezos-makes-every-day-hour-minute-2018-10" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">always a problem.</a></li><li>For your consideration: a <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/19756.Ugly_Duckling_to_Swan_Pygmalion_Romance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">goodreads list of ugly duckling romances</a>.</li><li>A thread from <a href="https://twitter.com/acosmistmachine/status/1035904137517584389" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">EE Ottoman about why pants</a> are not the problem... or the answer.</li><li>We love <a href="https://twitter.com/JenniferRNN?lang=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen Porter</a>.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2ofTOu7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lord of Scoundrels</a> will definitely be making an appearnce in season 2.</li><li>Sometimes we don't know if it's better to <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/humor/daily-shouts/are-you-emotionally-stable-enough-to-get-bangs-a-questionnaire" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">get bangs or just deal with our feelings</a>.</li><li>Why are there so many <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/childrens-books-site/2015/feb/13/love-triangles-why-are-there-so-many-teen-fiction" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">YA love triangles</a>?</li><li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/series/40393-bridgertons" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Bridgertons</a>, in case you don't know.</li><li>Jen thinks James Malory is <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Sue" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a Mary Sue</a>.</li><li>Coming up in two weeks, <a href="https://amzn.to/30ZZAx0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dark Lover</a> by J. R. Ward.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/EisReading/status/1170911947413495808" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">An official Romancelandia poll on the best emjoi for pegging</a>. I don't even know what to say.</li></ul><br/><blockquote><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/10/7/s025-gentle-rogue </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </blockquote>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah picked this week’s read without having read it recently, and she shockingly doesn’t regret it! We’re talking Johanna Lindsey’s Gentle Rogue—arguably one of the most beloved texts of the genre, complete with a reformed pirate and a heroine who is having absolutely none of his nonsense. We’ll talk about heroines who are sex positive, about obvious references to the slave trade that are problematic and somehow utterly glossed over, archetypal brothers, and about the shocking lack of plot in this book (which we don’t mind a bit).</p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review!</p><p>In two weeks, we’re going back to paranormal with the first book in JR Ward’s Black Dagger Brotherhood series, <em>Dark Lover. </em>It’s a whole ride. Strap in. Get it at <a href="https://amzn.to/2VqUmsU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dark-lover-j-r-ward/1100315350#/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/dark-lover/id357929397?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/dark-lover-a-novel-of-the-black-dagger-brotherhood" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a> or <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9780451468109" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a> (it’s currently only $2.99 in ebook!).</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Jen's the <a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/features/author/jennifer-prokop/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">romance correspondent for Kirkus</a>, and she recently wrote about Fabio who appeared on the original cover of Gentle Rogue. Also, <a href="https://pictorial.jezebel.com/the-steamy-throbbing-history-of-romance-novel-covers-1832430711" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this piece</a> by <a href="https://twitter.com/kellyfaircloth/status/1096128322277425155" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kelly Faircloth</a> about romance covers is amazing.</li><li>When Sarah dreamed of Amy Schumer, I wonder if it was anything <a href="https://www.glamour.com/story/amy-schumer-dating-last-fuckable-day" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">like this</a>?</li><li><a href="https://parentingteensandtweens.com/how-to-survive-seventh-grade-and-your-tween/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">7th grade is awful</a> for everyone.</li><li><a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2015/09/the-psychology-of-voldemort/406162/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Voldemort and his horcruxes</a>.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/31YxWlw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Magic of You</a> is all about Georgie's brother Warren.</li><li>Here's some basic information about <a href="https://nlj.gov.jm/slave-trade/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">slavery in Jamaica</a> and <a href="https://runaways.gla.ac.uk/minecraft/index.php/slaves-work-on-sugar-plantations/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sugar plantations</a> in particular. And the <a href="https://www.slavevoyages.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Slave Voyages</a> site is an amazing and well-researched online archive you should also check out, which includes a <a href="https://www.slavevoyages.org/voyage/database" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">searchable database of transatlantic boats</a> and the numbers of enslaved people on board each ship.</li><li>Although we didn't mention it the podcast, if you're reading romances where <a href="https://apracticalwedding.com/plantation-wedding-offensive/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">white people have weddings, parties, or balls on plantations</a>...that's terrible.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgian_era" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Georgian</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regency_era" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Regency</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victorian_era" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Victorian</a>.</li><li>In real life, <a href="https://twitter.com/_Floodlight/status/1181325813376933890" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">billionaires</a> are <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/what-amazon-ceo-jeff-bezos-makes-every-day-hour-minute-2018-10" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">always a problem.</a></li><li>For your consideration: a <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/19756.Ugly_Duckling_to_Swan_Pygmalion_Romance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">goodreads list of ugly duckling romances</a>.</li><li>A thread from <a href="https://twitter.com/acosmistmachine/status/1035904137517584389" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">EE Ottoman about why pants</a> are not the problem... or the answer.</li><li>We love <a href="https://twitter.com/JenniferRNN?lang=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen Porter</a>.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2ofTOu7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lord of Scoundrels</a> will definitely be making an appearnce in season 2.</li><li>Sometimes we don't know if it's better to <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/humor/daily-shouts/are-you-emotionally-stable-enough-to-get-bangs-a-questionnaire" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">get bangs or just deal with our feelings</a>.</li><li>Why are there so many <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/childrens-books-site/2015/feb/13/love-triangles-why-are-there-so-many-teen-fiction" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">YA love triangles</a>?</li><li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/series/40393-bridgertons" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Bridgertons</a>, in case you don't know.</li><li>Jen thinks James Malory is <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Sue" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a Mary Sue</a>.</li><li>Coming up in two weeks, <a href="https://amzn.to/30ZZAx0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dark Lover</a> by J. R. Ward.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/EisReading/status/1170911947413495808" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">An official Romancelandia poll on the best emjoi for pegging</a>. I don't even know what to say.</li></ul><br/><blockquote><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/10/7/s025-gentle-rogue </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </blockquote>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/10/7/s025-gentle-rogue]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5d9b8d5fd96ae85fdb070d18</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 09 Oct 2019 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/b363ddb4-dc49-40fe-b80e-f2fd30086ff6/fated-mates-gentle-rogue-final-reva.mp3" length="72267294" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:11:58</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>5</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Sarah picked this week’s read without having read it recently, and she shockingly doesn’t regret it! We’re talking Johanna Lindsey’s Gentle Rogue—arguably one of the most beloved texts of the genre, complete with a reformed pirate and a heroine who is having absolutely none of his nonsense. We’ll talk about heroines who are sex positive, about obvious references to the slave trade that are problematic and somehow utterly glossed over, archetypal brothers, and about the shocking lack of plot in this book (which we don’t mind a bit).</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-b363ddb4-dc49-40fe-b80e-f2fd30086ff6.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S02.04: Novellas with Alyssa Cole</title><itunes:title>Novellas with Alyssa Cole</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This week we’re talking about novellas with one of the best novella writers around—Alyssa Cole. Join us, along with Alyssa’s tree frogs, to talk about why she loves the novella format, the trick to writing a short romance, and her upcoming Audible original!</p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review.</p><p>We’re back in two weeks with Johanna Lindsey’s <em>Gentle Rogue</em>, set on a ship with a heroine-in-pants and a hero who really deserves everything she delivers him. Find it at: <a href="https://amzn.to/2loAJ7i" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/gentle-rogue-johanna-lindsey/1001868593?ean=9780380753024#/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/gentle-rogue" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/gentle-rogue/id446885889?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or at <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9780380753024" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local Independent Bookstore</a>!</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Ultra-marathoners really do suck down <a href="https://www.runnersworld.com/nutrition-weight-loss/g22716327/best-energy-gels/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">energy gel</a> out there! <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soylent_Green" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Soylent Green is people</a>, and therefore not someting Ultramarathoners consume during their races.</li><li>Sarah uses weird with love. In fact, she crowdsourced a great weird romance list yesterday on Twitter. <a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1179061776140427267" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Head over there to overload your TBR.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.cnet.com/news/top-5-sci-fi-robot-girlfriends/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Robot girlfriends</a> are a thing, I guess. But even more exciting is that Alyssa's audio for <a href="https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/regina-hall-joins-mindy-kaling-audible-original-ai-who-loved-me-1243821" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The AI Who Loved Me has some big time narrators!</a></li><li>Keanu Reeves in the Matrix has <a href="https://youtu.be/8vrkF-nzht8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">his own gel problem</a>.</li><li>Sarah wrote a novella for a Christmas anthology with Tessa Dare, Sophie Jordan &amp; Joanna Shupe, <a href="https://amzn.to/2nFp4lH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">How the Dukes Stole Christmas</a>, that is newly out in paperback.</li><li>Alyssa mentioned a KDrama called <a href="https://youtu.be/eRufntQ6hkE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Noble, My Love</a> that has 15 minute episodes.</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/b0BTs66JAgM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ladyhawke</a> is an 80s movie that honestly defies description, but lives on in our memories.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/10/1/s024-novella-romance-interstitial-with-alyssa-cole </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week we’re talking about novellas with one of the best novella writers around—Alyssa Cole. Join us, along with Alyssa’s tree frogs, to talk about why she loves the novella format, the trick to writing a short romance, and her upcoming Audible original!</p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review.</p><p>We’re back in two weeks with Johanna Lindsey’s <em>Gentle Rogue</em>, set on a ship with a heroine-in-pants and a hero who really deserves everything she delivers him. Find it at: <a href="https://amzn.to/2loAJ7i" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/gentle-rogue-johanna-lindsey/1001868593?ean=9780380753024#/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/gentle-rogue" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/gentle-rogue/id446885889?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, or at <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9780380753024" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local Independent Bookstore</a>!</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Ultra-marathoners really do suck down <a href="https://www.runnersworld.com/nutrition-weight-loss/g22716327/best-energy-gels/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">energy gel</a> out there! <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soylent_Green" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Soylent Green is people</a>, and therefore not someting Ultramarathoners consume during their races.</li><li>Sarah uses weird with love. In fact, she crowdsourced a great weird romance list yesterday on Twitter. <a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1179061776140427267" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Head over there to overload your TBR.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.cnet.com/news/top-5-sci-fi-robot-girlfriends/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Robot girlfriends</a> are a thing, I guess. But even more exciting is that Alyssa's audio for <a href="https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/regina-hall-joins-mindy-kaling-audible-original-ai-who-loved-me-1243821" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The AI Who Loved Me has some big time narrators!</a></li><li>Keanu Reeves in the Matrix has <a href="https://youtu.be/8vrkF-nzht8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">his own gel problem</a>.</li><li>Sarah wrote a novella for a Christmas anthology with Tessa Dare, Sophie Jordan &amp; Joanna Shupe, <a href="https://amzn.to/2nFp4lH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">How the Dukes Stole Christmas</a>, that is newly out in paperback.</li><li>Alyssa mentioned a KDrama called <a href="https://youtu.be/eRufntQ6hkE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Noble, My Love</a> that has 15 minute episodes.</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/b0BTs66JAgM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ladyhawke</a> is an 80s movie that honestly defies description, but lives on in our memories.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/10/1/s024-novella-romance-interstitial-with-alyssa-cole </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/10/1/s024-novella-romance-interstitial-with-alyssa-cole]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5d937ba6989dcd5206c6c945</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 02 Oct 2019 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/0b3a4380-57d5-4e61-8492-dd413bf7603c/fated-mates-novellas-with-frogs-final-mastered-revb.mp3" length="33373669" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:02:10</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>4</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:summary>This week we’re talking about novellas with one of the best novella writers around—Alyssa Cole. Join us, along with Alyssa’s tree frogs, to talk about why she loves the novella format, the trick to writing a short romance, and her upcoming Audible original!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-0b3a4380-57d5-4e61-8492-dd413bf7603c.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S02.03: Lisa Kleypas Does Spectacles Better than F. Scott Fitzgerald: Dreaming of You</title><itunes:title>Lisa Kleypas Does Spectacles Better than F. Scott Fitzgerald: Dreaming of You</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We begin the exploration of The Books That Blooded Us with the one that probably least surprised listeners—Lisa Kleypas’s <em>Dreaming of You</em>! We tackle this fabulous, bonkers book (yes, we get to the bottom of the did-he-or-didn’t-he conundrum, and we spend some serious time discussing Joyce). We also talk about how we think Derek Craven changed the romance hero game, what might have been in the water in romance in the early-mid 1990s, and Sarah tells a few stories about her weekend with the queen herself, Lisa Kleypas. </p><p>Don’t forget to like &amp; subscribe in your favorite podcasting app so you don’t miss a single second of us in your earholes!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Anyone know if <a href="https://www.warbyparker.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Warby Parker</a> is looking for a podcast to sponser?</li><li>Sarah &amp; Lisa spent time together because they were signing at Nora Roberts's bookstore, <a href="https://www.ttpbooks.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Turn the Page</a>, in real-life Boonsboro, MD. Jen had some hard-core <a href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/ritual-and-the-brain/201804/the-science-fomo-and-what-we-re-really-missing-out" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FOMO</a>.</li><li>February 4th is Derek Craven Day, look at some of <a href="https://groundhog-apricot-gbcy.squarespace.com/derek-craven-day#TWEETS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">our&nbsp;tweets&nbsp;from&nbsp;that&nbsp;day</a>.</li><li>A reminder of that <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/12/30/a-guide-to-the-allegations-of-bill-clintons-womanizing/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">1992 election</a> and <a href="https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-phelps-anita-hill-christine-blasey-ford-kavanaugh-20180918-story.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">what we should have learned from Anita Hill</a>. But <a href="https://twitter.com/StormyDaniels" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stormy Daniels</a>is more in control of her narrative.</li><li>Josh Lyman <a href="https://youtu.be/_sSW4daqRSc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">never calls it a recession</a>, call it a bagel.</li><li>We love <a href="https://twitter.com/stegan" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Steve Ammidown</a> at the <a href="https://twitter.com/BGSU_PopCultLib" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">BGSU pop culture library</a>.</li><li>IRL, Matilda was <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pamela;_or,_Virtue_Rewarded" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pamela</a>. But that ending, classic <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lady,_or_the_Tiger%3F" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lady or the Tiger</a> or <a href="https://www.vulture.com/2019/01/the-sopranos-ending-does-tony-die.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Sopranos</a>.</li><li>The second casino is in <a href="https://amzn.to/2mrWQtN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Devil in Winter</a>, where Ivo Jenner's daughter falls in love with Sebastian, St. Vincent, whom many think is Lisa's best hero. They are wrong.</li><li>We're back on Moonstruck with that <a href="https://youtu.be/O66m3X5mYpU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">mother-in-law</a> and <a href="https://youtu.be/wUPc7frUlD8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"Bring me the big knife!</a>"</li><li>More about some of those <a href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/transcending-the-past/201605/mothers-witches-and-the-power-archetypes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jungian archetypes</a>.</li><li>Jen meant coitus interruptus in <a href="https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=coitus%20interruptus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Urban Dictionary way</a>, not <a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/coitus%20interruptus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Merriam-Webster way</a>.</li><li>This article seems to think <a href="https://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2014/04/30/head-hopping-fiction-writing/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">head hopping</a> is more common in roamance, but I don't know if that's true.</li><li>Close third person POV or <a href="http://jasna.org/publications/persuasions-online/vol37no1/white-smith/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Free Indirect Speech &amp; Jane Austen</a>.</li><li>Have you listened to <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/5/18/135-freewheeling-with-sarah-and-jen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">our bodily autonomy episode</a>?</li><li>Dangerous Liasons the book has been around for a long time, but Jen is talking about <a href="https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/dangerous-liaisons-1989" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the 1988 movie</a>.</li><li>"She leaves the gun on the table" is a reference to a famous <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chekhov%27s_gun" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">writing precept by Chekhov</a>.</li><li>Doing spectacles<a href="https://www.sparknotes.com/lit/gatsby/symbols/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">&nbsp;better than F. Scott Fitzgerald</a>.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2n3e5C7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gentle Rogue</a> is coming up in two weeks.</li><li>Kelly has some <a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/product-page/fated-mates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates swag and Romancelandia buttons for sale</a>.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1025069638550540294" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Derek</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1097853712087826434" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Craven</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1176551649969463296" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">would</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1172184981227094016" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">never</a>.</li><li>Fated Mates is produced by Eric Mortensen</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/9/24/s021-lisa-kleypas-does-spectacles-better-than-f-scott-fitzgerald-dreaming-of-you </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We begin the exploration of The Books That Blooded Us with the one that probably least surprised listeners—Lisa Kleypas’s <em>Dreaming of You</em>! We tackle this fabulous, bonkers book (yes, we get to the bottom of the did-he-or-didn’t-he conundrum, and we spend some serious time discussing Joyce). We also talk about how we think Derek Craven changed the romance hero game, what might have been in the water in romance in the early-mid 1990s, and Sarah tells a few stories about her weekend with the queen herself, Lisa Kleypas. </p><p>Don’t forget to like &amp; subscribe in your favorite podcasting app so you don’t miss a single second of us in your earholes!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Anyone know if <a href="https://www.warbyparker.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Warby Parker</a> is looking for a podcast to sponser?</li><li>Sarah &amp; Lisa spent time together because they were signing at Nora Roberts's bookstore, <a href="https://www.ttpbooks.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Turn the Page</a>, in real-life Boonsboro, MD. Jen had some hard-core <a href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/ritual-and-the-brain/201804/the-science-fomo-and-what-we-re-really-missing-out" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FOMO</a>.</li><li>February 4th is Derek Craven Day, look at some of <a href="https://groundhog-apricot-gbcy.squarespace.com/derek-craven-day#TWEETS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">our&nbsp;tweets&nbsp;from&nbsp;that&nbsp;day</a>.</li><li>A reminder of that <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/12/30/a-guide-to-the-allegations-of-bill-clintons-womanizing/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">1992 election</a> and <a href="https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-phelps-anita-hill-christine-blasey-ford-kavanaugh-20180918-story.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">what we should have learned from Anita Hill</a>. But <a href="https://twitter.com/StormyDaniels" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stormy Daniels</a>is more in control of her narrative.</li><li>Josh Lyman <a href="https://youtu.be/_sSW4daqRSc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">never calls it a recession</a>, call it a bagel.</li><li>We love <a href="https://twitter.com/stegan" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Steve Ammidown</a> at the <a href="https://twitter.com/BGSU_PopCultLib" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">BGSU pop culture library</a>.</li><li>IRL, Matilda was <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pamela;_or,_Virtue_Rewarded" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pamela</a>. But that ending, classic <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lady,_or_the_Tiger%3F" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lady or the Tiger</a> or <a href="https://www.vulture.com/2019/01/the-sopranos-ending-does-tony-die.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Sopranos</a>.</li><li>The second casino is in <a href="https://amzn.to/2mrWQtN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Devil in Winter</a>, where Ivo Jenner's daughter falls in love with Sebastian, St. Vincent, whom many think is Lisa's best hero. They are wrong.</li><li>We're back on Moonstruck with that <a href="https://youtu.be/O66m3X5mYpU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">mother-in-law</a> and <a href="https://youtu.be/wUPc7frUlD8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"Bring me the big knife!</a>"</li><li>More about some of those <a href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/transcending-the-past/201605/mothers-witches-and-the-power-archetypes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jungian archetypes</a>.</li><li>Jen meant coitus interruptus in <a href="https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=coitus%20interruptus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Urban Dictionary way</a>, not <a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/coitus%20interruptus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Merriam-Webster way</a>.</li><li>This article seems to think <a href="https://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2014/04/30/head-hopping-fiction-writing/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">head hopping</a> is more common in roamance, but I don't know if that's true.</li><li>Close third person POV or <a href="http://jasna.org/publications/persuasions-online/vol37no1/white-smith/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Free Indirect Speech &amp; Jane Austen</a>.</li><li>Have you listened to <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/5/18/135-freewheeling-with-sarah-and-jen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">our bodily autonomy episode</a>?</li><li>Dangerous Liasons the book has been around for a long time, but Jen is talking about <a href="https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/dangerous-liaisons-1989" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the 1988 movie</a>.</li><li>"She leaves the gun on the table" is a reference to a famous <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chekhov%27s_gun" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">writing precept by Chekhov</a>.</li><li>Doing spectacles<a href="https://www.sparknotes.com/lit/gatsby/symbols/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">&nbsp;better than F. Scott Fitzgerald</a>.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2n3e5C7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gentle Rogue</a> is coming up in two weeks.</li><li>Kelly has some <a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/product-page/fated-mates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates swag and Romancelandia buttons for sale</a>.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1025069638550540294" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Derek</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1097853712087826434" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Craven</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1176551649969463296" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">would</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1172184981227094016" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">never</a>.</li><li>Fated Mates is produced by Eric Mortensen</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/9/24/s021-lisa-kleypas-does-spectacles-better-than-f-scott-fitzgerald-dreaming-of-you </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/9/24/s021-lisa-kleypas-does-spectacles-better-than-f-scott-fitzgerald-dreaming-of-you]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5d8a50f8b47a190fe2833670</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 25 Sep 2019 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/8454562f-01e4-4cd8-85d3-2e9aa9ff2200/fated-mates-derek-final-1.mp3" length="82981609" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:23:11</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>3</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We begin the exploration of The Books That Blooded Us with the one that probably least surprised listeners—Lisa Kleypas’s Dreaming of You! We tackle this fabulous, bonkers book warts and all (yes, we get to the bottom of the did-he-or-didn’t-he conundrum, and we spend some serious time discussing Joyce). We also talk about how we think Derek Craven changed the romance hero game, what might have been in the water in romance in the early-mid 1990s, and Sarah tells a few stories about her weekend with the queen herself, Lisa Kleypas.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-8454562f-01e4-4cd8-85d3-2e9aa9ff2200.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S02.02: The Alpha in Romance Novels</title><itunes:title>The Alpha in Romance Novels</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>As we lead into Season Two, and consider the fact that some of our faves are definitely going to be problematic, we’re talking about the alpha hero this week — we’re also tackling the beta hero and the cinnamon roll, and why these archetypes largely don’t work for us. We’re talking romance heroes who changed the game for us and the genre, about how hard it is to turn the alphahole around, and how satisfying it is to watch it happen. We’re also talking the female gaze (of course) and the patriarchy (like always). </p><p>Next week, we’re digging into one of our original alphas, Derek Craven! You can find Lisa Kleypas’s Dreaming of You at <a href="https://amzn.to/2N8tsVI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dreaming-of-you-lisa-kleypas/1100214939#/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/dreaming-of-you/id360607873?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/dreaming-of-you-3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9780380773527" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">at your local indie</a>. It's currently $2.99 in digital everywhere, so snatch it up!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li><a href="http://www.sherrythomas.com/blog/2007/10/11/the-thinking-woman%E2%80%99s-alpha-hero/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The alpha</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://frolic.media/alpha-versus-beta-who-runs-mf-romance/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the beta</a>, and the&nbsp;<a href="https://oliviadade.com/2017/12/11/warning-extra-gooey-cinnamon-roll-heroes-ahead/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">cinnamon roll</a>.</li><li>You should all follow&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/lingerie_addict" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cora Harrington</a>&nbsp;(lingerie addict) on twitter. It's all so beautiful.</li><li>Jen screams about first person a lot, but MOSTLY about&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1147131945702383616" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">first person present</a>.</li><li>It was Demon Rumm by Sandra Brown that was all in the male POV, and&nbsp;<a href="https://thtswhatsheread.wordpress.com/2014/11/27/fiction-demon-rumm-by-sandra-brown/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this review</a>&nbsp;is so great. Jen's going to follow&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/WillBeFunOrElse" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alaina</a>, the author, on twitter. UPDATE: The Browne Pop Culture Library was able to find the descriptions of Demon Rumm,&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/BGSU_PopCultLib/status/1174320725085147136" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">and as Jen predicted, they were in the back matter of the previous month's books</a>! Thanks,&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/stegan" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Steve</a>!</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/34SSayG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alec Kinkaid,</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/32RleVQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Montgomerys</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/34PH0Lh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">James Mallory</a>, and the&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/300Plgi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Westmoreland heroes.</a></li><li>Did you somehow miss us talking about&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/27/17-the-player" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Professional</a>?</li><li>It the Movie may or may not be your cup of tea, but&nbsp;<a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/podcast/310-heroine-sociopaths-and-emotional-suspense-an-interview-with-victoria-helen-stone/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this discussion of Jane Doe with Victoria Helen Stone</a>&nbsp;has some really interesting points about horror and romance.</li><li>Bourne from&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/303MqUd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Rogue by Any Other Name</a>&nbsp;is "Sarah's worst hero" by which she means it was just reall satisfying to break him.</li><li>You have to listen to our&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/7/29/185-antiheroes-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">antiheroes episode</a>&nbsp;if you want to know what it means to "take the finger."</li><li><a href="https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=p%20in%20the%20v" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">P in V</a>&nbsp;is great, but&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1166682674699935746" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2Ps in V is even better</a>.</li><li>Hillary Clinton was wrong about romance novels, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/books/hillary-you-are-a-romance-novel-heroine/2017/12/08/64bac658-dc2e-11e7-b1a8-62589434a581_story.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lisa Kleypas explains why</a>.</li><li>Adriana Herrera's&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2Qi8g1V" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">American</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2NmFU4f" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dreamers</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2O7QHPs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">series</a>&nbsp;is one of our faves.</li><li>What it means to be a&nbsp;<a href="https://kinseyinstitute.org/research/publications/kinsey-scale.php" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kinsey 2</a>.</li><li><a href="http://www.loveinpanels.com/romanceforraices" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Romance for Raices</a>&nbsp;has a few more days.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.32auctions.com/organizations/55109/auctions/68631/auction_items/1891836" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spend enough money and you can pick an upcoming interstitial topic</a>!</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/9/17/s022-the-alpha-in-romance-novels-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As we lead into Season Two, and consider the fact that some of our faves are definitely going to be problematic, we’re talking about the alpha hero this week — we’re also tackling the beta hero and the cinnamon roll, and why these archetypes largely don’t work for us. We’re talking romance heroes who changed the game for us and the genre, about how hard it is to turn the alphahole around, and how satisfying it is to watch it happen. We’re also talking the female gaze (of course) and the patriarchy (like always). </p><p>Next week, we’re digging into one of our original alphas, Derek Craven! You can find Lisa Kleypas’s Dreaming of You at <a href="https://amzn.to/2N8tsVI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dreaming-of-you-lisa-kleypas/1100214939#/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/dreaming-of-you/id360607873?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/dreaming-of-you-3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9780380773527" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">at your local indie</a>. It's currently $2.99 in digital everywhere, so snatch it up!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li><a href="http://www.sherrythomas.com/blog/2007/10/11/the-thinking-woman%E2%80%99s-alpha-hero/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The alpha</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://frolic.media/alpha-versus-beta-who-runs-mf-romance/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the beta</a>, and the&nbsp;<a href="https://oliviadade.com/2017/12/11/warning-extra-gooey-cinnamon-roll-heroes-ahead/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">cinnamon roll</a>.</li><li>You should all follow&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/lingerie_addict" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cora Harrington</a>&nbsp;(lingerie addict) on twitter. It's all so beautiful.</li><li>Jen screams about first person a lot, but MOSTLY about&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1147131945702383616" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">first person present</a>.</li><li>It was Demon Rumm by Sandra Brown that was all in the male POV, and&nbsp;<a href="https://thtswhatsheread.wordpress.com/2014/11/27/fiction-demon-rumm-by-sandra-brown/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this review</a>&nbsp;is so great. Jen's going to follow&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/WillBeFunOrElse" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alaina</a>, the author, on twitter. UPDATE: The Browne Pop Culture Library was able to find the descriptions of Demon Rumm,&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/BGSU_PopCultLib/status/1174320725085147136" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">and as Jen predicted, they were in the back matter of the previous month's books</a>! Thanks,&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/stegan" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Steve</a>!</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/34SSayG" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alec Kinkaid,</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/32RleVQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Montgomerys</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/34PH0Lh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">James Mallory</a>, and the&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/300Plgi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Westmoreland heroes.</a></li><li>Did you somehow miss us talking about&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/27/17-the-player" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Professional</a>?</li><li>It the Movie may or may not be your cup of tea, but&nbsp;<a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/podcast/310-heroine-sociopaths-and-emotional-suspense-an-interview-with-victoria-helen-stone/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this discussion of Jane Doe with Victoria Helen Stone</a>&nbsp;has some really interesting points about horror and romance.</li><li>Bourne from&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/303MqUd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Rogue by Any Other Name</a>&nbsp;is "Sarah's worst hero" by which she means it was just reall satisfying to break him.</li><li>You have to listen to our&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/7/29/185-antiheroes-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">antiheroes episode</a>&nbsp;if you want to know what it means to "take the finger."</li><li><a href="https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=p%20in%20the%20v" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">P in V</a>&nbsp;is great, but&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1166682674699935746" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2Ps in V is even better</a>.</li><li>Hillary Clinton was wrong about romance novels, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/books/hillary-you-are-a-romance-novel-heroine/2017/12/08/64bac658-dc2e-11e7-b1a8-62589434a581_story.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lisa Kleypas explains why</a>.</li><li>Adriana Herrera's&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2Qi8g1V" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">American</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2NmFU4f" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dreamers</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2O7QHPs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">series</a>&nbsp;is one of our faves.</li><li>What it means to be a&nbsp;<a href="https://kinseyinstitute.org/research/publications/kinsey-scale.php" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kinsey 2</a>.</li><li><a href="http://www.loveinpanels.com/romanceforraices" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Romance for Raices</a>&nbsp;has a few more days.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.32auctions.com/organizations/55109/auctions/68631/auction_items/1891836" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spend enough money and you can pick an upcoming interstitial topic</a>!</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/9/17/s022-the-alpha-in-romance-novels-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/9/17/s022-the-alpha-in-romance-novels-interstitial]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5d81070dc8bd9f71b901d6bf</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 18 Sep 2019 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/3b051619-38a4-4427-83de-a16364a833ff/fated-mates-alphas-with-chapters.mp3" length="68936300" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:07:58</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>2</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:summary>As we lead into Season Two, and consider the fact that some of our faves are definitely going to be problematic, we’re talking about the alpha hero this week — we’re also tackling the beta hero and the cinnamon roll, and why these archetypes largely don’t work for us. We’re talking romance heroes who changed the game for us and the genre, about how hard it is to turn the alphahole around, and how satisfying it is to watch it happen. We’re also talking the female gaze (of course) and the patriarchy (like always).</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/a1d1c477-5b0f-41aa-9f2a-34107031cb45/index.html" type="text/html"/><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-3b051619-38a4-4427-83de-a16364a833ff.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>S02.01 Welcome to Season Two</title><itunes:title>Welcome to Season Two</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We're Back!</p><p>We promised you we'd be back with Season Two in September, and here we are in September, back with Season Two!</p><p>We've said farewell to&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/the-books" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Season One</a>, but we'll never fully be able to quit IAD, so Season Two will be&nbsp;<strong>The Books That Blooded Us</strong>&nbsp;-- that is, the books that made us the romance readers we are...books that taught us what the genre could be, books that scratched our itch, books that made us lifelong romance readers, books that set us on the path directly to your earholes!</p><p>Over the season, we'll tackle 10 (or so) books that blooded each of us -- we'll deep dive, discuss, and delight in each other's picks -- and we've got some fun ideas for how you all can share the books that blooded you!</p><p>So...where do we begin? We begin in two weeks with the primordial text for both of us...the one...the only...<em>Dreaming of You</em>. We'll talk Derek Craven's cockney accent, Sara Fielding's legendary novel, Lisa Kleypas's immense skill with talismans, and we'll get to the very bottom of some of the most controversial bits of this glorious book that the two of us love a whole lot.</p><p>Get reading, y'all, we've got a lot to say. You can find Dreaming of You at <a href="https://amzn.to/2N8tsVI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dreaming-of-you-lisa-kleypas/1100214939#/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/dreaming-of-you/id360607873?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/dreaming-of-you-3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9780380773527" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">at your local indie</a>. It's currently $2.99 in digital everywhere, so snatch it up!</p><p>We'll be announcing the schedule for the first few reads later this week -- so you'll have time to read ahead, but in the meantime, sit back, relax, and let us give you a preview of what's to come!</p><p>Don't forget to like and subscribe in your favorite podcasting platform!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li><a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1166682674699935746" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen tweeted about Altogether by Brill Harper</a>&nbsp;and then all of Romancedlandia read it. It's deliciously filthy.</li><li><a href="https://drive.google.com/open?id=1a3KGqsMwudUjw4IpTSJKgEMwL9Yd93uR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Read Sarah's drunk texts to Jen and Kate</a>&nbsp;on the Vika group chat. Take a look at these covers for&nbsp;<a href="https://rebeccazanetti.com/bookshelf/deadly-silence/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rebecca Zanetti's Deadly Silence.</a></li><li><a href="https://wickedwallflowersclub.com/2019/07/31/ep-92-sarah-maclean-brazen-and-the-beast/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah was on Wicked and the Wallflowers podcast</a>&nbsp;to talk about</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2LqV9XM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brazen and the Beast</a>. You had no idea&nbsp;<a href="https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/vexillonaire/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">flag design</a>&nbsp;was so fascinating.</li><li>Looking back at twitter, it might have been&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/960281122918862848" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a shared love of Derek Craven that made Sarah and Jen friends</a>. We can't wait to discuss&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2NPZQf4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dreaming of You</a>&nbsp;in two weeks.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/9/9/s021-welcome-to-season-two-1 </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We're Back!</p><p>We promised you we'd be back with Season Two in September, and here we are in September, back with Season Two!</p><p>We've said farewell to&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/the-books" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Season One</a>, but we'll never fully be able to quit IAD, so Season Two will be&nbsp;<strong>The Books That Blooded Us</strong>&nbsp;-- that is, the books that made us the romance readers we are...books that taught us what the genre could be, books that scratched our itch, books that made us lifelong romance readers, books that set us on the path directly to your earholes!</p><p>Over the season, we'll tackle 10 (or so) books that blooded each of us -- we'll deep dive, discuss, and delight in each other's picks -- and we've got some fun ideas for how you all can share the books that blooded you!</p><p>So...where do we begin? We begin in two weeks with the primordial text for both of us...the one...the only...<em>Dreaming of You</em>. We'll talk Derek Craven's cockney accent, Sara Fielding's legendary novel, Lisa Kleypas's immense skill with talismans, and we'll get to the very bottom of some of the most controversial bits of this glorious book that the two of us love a whole lot.</p><p>Get reading, y'all, we've got a lot to say. You can find Dreaming of You at <a href="https://amzn.to/2N8tsVI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dreaming-of-you-lisa-kleypas/1100214939#/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/dreaming-of-you/id360607873?app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR&amp;mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/dreaming-of-you-3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9780380773527" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">at your local indie</a>. It's currently $2.99 in digital everywhere, so snatch it up!</p><p>We'll be announcing the schedule for the first few reads later this week -- so you'll have time to read ahead, but in the meantime, sit back, relax, and let us give you a preview of what's to come!</p><p>Don't forget to like and subscribe in your favorite podcasting platform!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li><a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1166682674699935746" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen tweeted about Altogether by Brill Harper</a>&nbsp;and then all of Romancedlandia read it. It's deliciously filthy.</li><li><a href="https://drive.google.com/open?id=1a3KGqsMwudUjw4IpTSJKgEMwL9Yd93uR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Read Sarah's drunk texts to Jen and Kate</a>&nbsp;on the Vika group chat. Take a look at these covers for&nbsp;<a href="https://rebeccazanetti.com/bookshelf/deadly-silence/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rebecca Zanetti's Deadly Silence.</a></li><li><a href="https://wickedwallflowersclub.com/2019/07/31/ep-92-sarah-maclean-brazen-and-the-beast/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah was on Wicked and the Wallflowers podcast</a>&nbsp;to talk about</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2LqV9XM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brazen and the Beast</a>. You had no idea&nbsp;<a href="https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/vexillonaire/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">flag design</a>&nbsp;was so fascinating.</li><li>Looking back at twitter, it might have been&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/960281122918862848" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a shared love of Derek Craven that made Sarah and Jen friends</a>. We can't wait to discuss&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2NPZQf4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dreaming of You</a>&nbsp;in two weeks.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/9/9/s021-welcome-to-season-two-1 </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/9/9/s021-welcome-to-season-two-1]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5d76ec8102a00d0b9cccb45b</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 11 Sep 2019 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/6f627657-76bf-4354-8042-cc6ffe67cce4/fated-mates-s02-1-final.mp3" length="39173820" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>38:48</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>1</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We&apos;re Back! 

We promised you we&apos;d be back with Season Two in September, and here we are in September, back with Season Two! 

We&apos;ve said farewell to [Season One][1], but we&apos;ll never fully be able to quit IAD, so Season Two will be **The Books That Blooded Us** -- that is, the books that made us the romance readers we are...books that taught us what the genre could be, books that scratched our itch, books that made us lifelong romance readers, books that set us on the path directly to your earholes! 

Over the season, we&apos;ll tackle 10 (or so) books that blooded each of us -- we&apos;ll deep dive, discuss, and delight in each other&apos;s picks -- and we&apos;ve got some fun ideas for how you all can share the books that blooded you! 

So...where do we begin? We begin in two weeks with the primordial text for both of us...the one...the only...*Dreaming of You*. We&apos;ll talk Derek Craven&apos;s cockney accent, Sara Fielding&apos;s legendary novel, Lisa Kleypas&apos;s immense skill with talismans, and we&apos;ll get to the very bottom of some of the most controversial bits of this glorious book that the two of us love a whole lot.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-6f627657-76bf-4354-8042-cc6ffe67cce4.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>Fated Wallflowers/Wicked Mates Crossover Episode!</title><itunes:title>Fated Wallflowers/Wicked Mates Crossover Episode!</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In July, at the Romance Writers of America annual conference, we had the extraordinarily good luck to record a crossover episode with Jenny Nordbak &amp; Sarah Hawley of <a href="https://wickedwallflowersclub.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Wicked Wallflowers</em></a> podcast! We talked about our favorite books with a roomful of librarians &amp; bloggers, and we had the best time. Now, you can, too! </p><p>Be sure to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting app so you know the moment we return!</p><p>Subscribe to these other amazing romance podcasts! </p><ul><li><a href="https://wickedwallflowersclub.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Wicked Wallflowers</a> (with Jenny &amp; Sarah)</li><li><a href="https://heavingbosomspodcast.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heaving Bosoms</a> (with Melody &amp; Erin)</li><li><a href="https://learningthetropes.podbean.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learning the Tropes</a> (with Erin &amp; Clayton) </li><li><a href="https://www.jeffandwill.com/biggayfictionpodcast/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Big Gay Fiction Podcast</a> (with Jeff &amp; Will)</li></ul><br/><p>Listen to <a href="https://wickedwallflowersclub.com/2019/07/31/ep-92-sarah-maclean-brazen-and-the-beast/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the longer version</a> of the conversation with Sarah (MacLean) that Jenny (Nordbak) talks about in her discussion of <em>Brazen &amp; the Beast</em>.</p><p> Sarah's hometown library (complete with dark corridors for romance novels) is the <a href="https://www.lincolnlibrary.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lincoln Public Library</a> in Lincoln, Rhode Island.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In July, at the Romance Writers of America annual conference, we had the extraordinarily good luck to record a crossover episode with Jenny Nordbak &amp; Sarah Hawley of <a href="https://wickedwallflowersclub.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Wicked Wallflowers</em></a> podcast! We talked about our favorite books with a roomful of librarians &amp; bloggers, and we had the best time. Now, you can, too! </p><p>Be sure to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting app so you know the moment we return!</p><p>Subscribe to these other amazing romance podcasts! </p><ul><li><a href="https://wickedwallflowersclub.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Wicked Wallflowers</a> (with Jenny &amp; Sarah)</li><li><a href="https://heavingbosomspodcast.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heaving Bosoms</a> (with Melody &amp; Erin)</li><li><a href="https://learningthetropes.podbean.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learning the Tropes</a> (with Erin &amp; Clayton) </li><li><a href="https://www.jeffandwill.com/biggayfictionpodcast/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Big Gay Fiction Podcast</a> (with Jeff &amp; Will)</li></ul><br/><p>Listen to <a href="https://wickedwallflowersclub.com/2019/07/31/ep-92-sarah-maclean-brazen-and-the-beast/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the longer version</a> of the conversation with Sarah (MacLean) that Jenny (Nordbak) talks about in her discussion of <em>Brazen &amp; the Beast</em>.</p><p> Sarah's hometown library (complete with dark corridors for romance novels) is the <a href="https://www.lincolnlibrary.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lincoln Public Library</a> in Lincoln, Rhode Island.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/9/4/fated-wallflowerswicked-mates-crossover-episode]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5d6f0137184182000156c774</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 04 Sep 2019 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/be5ef493-3d07-4d94-85d7-2a5e35ba5496/the-live-episode-final-revc.mp3" length="62240754" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:03:47</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>42</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>42</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><itunes:summary>In July, at the Romance Writers of America annual conference, we had the extraordinarily good luck to record a crossover episode with Jenny Nordbak &amp; Sarah Hawley of The Wicked Wallflowers podcast! We talked about our favorite books with a roomful of librarians &amp; bloggers, and we had the best time. Now, you can, too!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-be5ef493-3d07-4d94-85d7-2a5e35ba5496.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>Nine Minutes with Jen</title><itunes:title>Nine Minutes with Jen</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Yes, yes, we're on hiatus. But we can't stop, won't stop!</p><p>In this mini episode, Jen talks to her friend Elizabeth about what we can do when someone judges our romance reading.</p><p>Be sure to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting app so you know the moment we return!</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, yes, we're on hiatus. But we can't stop, won't stop!</p><p>In this mini episode, Jen talks to her friend Elizabeth about what we can do when someone judges our romance reading.</p><p>Be sure to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting app so you know the moment we return!</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/8/26/nine-minutes-with-jen]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">6d327d85-6bc9-4be9-96e0-afd710503637</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 28 Aug 2019 15:57:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/3b3d73d0-2aa4-4c32-98cf-45662836edee/fated-mates-jen-solo-final-revb.mp3" length="10286670" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>09:29</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>41</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>41</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>Six Minutes with Sarah</title><itunes:title>Six Minutes with Sarah</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We're on hiatus until September, when we'll start Season 2, but here is a quick hi from Sarah, with a story from her trip to the UK that only Fated Mates listeners will appreciate.</p><p>Be sure to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting app so you know the moment we return! </p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li><a href="https://www.askhamhall.co.uk/george-and-dragon/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">George &amp; Dragon Inn</a>, Clifton, Penrith, UK</li><li><a href="https://www.google.com/url?cad=rja&amp;cd=1&amp;esrc=s&amp;q=&amp;rct=j&amp;sa=t&amp;source=web&amp;uact=8&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.lowthercastle.org%2F&amp;usg=AOvVaw0AFwQ4W2dDXkX8YqNhur-q&amp;ved=2ahUKEwjRkM2z1JLkAhXnhOAKHR0HAGsQFjAAegQIABAC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lowther Castle</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Lowther,_5th_Earl_of_Lonsdale" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hugh Lowther</a>, proper reprobate and 5th Earl of Lonsdale</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We're on hiatus until September, when we'll start Season 2, but here is a quick hi from Sarah, with a story from her trip to the UK that only Fated Mates listeners will appreciate.</p><p>Be sure to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting app so you know the moment we return! </p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li><a href="https://www.askhamhall.co.uk/george-and-dragon/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">George &amp; Dragon Inn</a>, Clifton, Penrith, UK</li><li><a href="https://www.google.com/url?cad=rja&amp;cd=1&amp;esrc=s&amp;q=&amp;rct=j&amp;sa=t&amp;source=web&amp;uact=8&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.lowthercastle.org%2F&amp;usg=AOvVaw0AFwQ4W2dDXkX8YqNhur-q&amp;ved=2ahUKEwjRkM2z1JLkAhXnhOAKHR0HAGsQFjAAegQIABAC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lowther Castle</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Lowther,_5th_Earl_of_Lonsdale" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hugh Lowther</a>, proper reprobate and 5th Earl of Lonsdale</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/8/21/six-minutes-with-sarah]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">01dcc368-80b9-4cc2-bd34-1e3e311d1fb6</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 21 Aug 2019 15:51:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/523337c9-2e5e-4c90-877c-1496447b0188/fated-mates-six-minutes-with-sarah-reva.mp3" length="8381346" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>05:39</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>40</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>40</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>19: I Don’t Know; She’s a Witch: Wicked Abyss</title><itunes:title>I Don’t Know; She’s a Witch: Wicked Abyss</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Fated Mates returns with Season Two in September — don’t forget to like &amp; subscribe in your favorite podcasting app so you don’t miss a single second of us in your earholes!</p><p>And more than all this — thank you for listening to us talk at you about vampires, valkyries, wolf holograms, horns &amp; Rune for 39 weeks — there honestly aren’t words for how much we love you for listening!</p><p>Team Vertas 4eva! — xoxo Sarah &amp; Jen</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>This is&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/VScSEXRwUqQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The End</a>&nbsp;is by The Doors, and&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/xGytDsqkQY8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Closing Time</a>&nbsp;is by Semisonic.</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://www.rwa.org/Online/News/2019/RITA_Live_Stream.aspx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">RITAs were amazing</a>, and one of the best things about it was this&nbsp;<a href="https://www.rwa.org/Online/Awards/RITA/romance_trailblazers.aspx?WebsiteKey=c531524b-2ea0-41e7-a099-7e5a27062137" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">romance trailblazers</a>&nbsp;video.</li><li>Lila is a&nbsp;<a href="https://www.buzzfeed.com/vchamlee/heres-what-it-takes-to-be-a-full-time-disney-princess" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">face character</a>&nbsp;at Disney.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2KvWJan" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Inside the Mouse</a>&nbsp;is a book you should read, or just this&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/12/magazine/a-rough-guide-to-disney-world.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">New York Times article</a>&nbsp;where John Jerimiah Sullivan (omg. his essays are so good! Read&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2YVdnnC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pulphead</a>!) trying to figure out the best place to smoke weed there. That&nbsp;<a href="https://www.buzzfeed.com/alisoncaporimo/creepy-creepy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Banksey</a>&nbsp;video.</li><li>Because Disney is&nbsp;<a href="https://www.popsugar.com/family/Disney-Vacations-Getting-Too-Expensive-45758367" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">too expensive</a>, #TeamReadsRomance suggests&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thrillist.com/lifestyle/cleveland/best-cedar-point-roller-coasters-rides" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cedar Point if you like roller coasters</a>.</li><li><a href="https://io9.gizmodo.com/heres-how-they-made-helas-thor-ragnarok-headdress-1820372597" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hela's crown in Thor Ragnarok</a>&nbsp;is PRETTY GREAT.</li><li>It's interesting to think about a&nbsp;<a href="https://narrativefirst.com/articles/framing-devices-and-what-they-mean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">framing device</a>&nbsp;and what it does for a story.</li><li>Sarah's WaPo piece about the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/books/how-trump-killed-off-my-romantic-lead/2017/08/08/8e3e40dc-7305-11e7-8839-ec48ec4cae25_story.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alpha Feminist</a>.</li><li>All about&nbsp;<a href="https://literarydevices.net/archetype/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">archetypes</a>&nbsp;and the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.themarysue.com/princesses-tropes/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">princess trope</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.hp-lexicon.org/place/hogwarts-school-of-witchcraft-and-wizardry/hogwarts-seventh-floor/room-of-requirement/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Room of Requirement</a>&nbsp;is part of Hogwards.</li><li>When we talked about time, Sarah recommended Kylie Scott's&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2TxWgaw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Repeat</a>.</li><li>Tim Curry as&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/film/filmblog/2014/jul/03/tim-curry-legend-ridley-scott-role-model" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Darkness in Legend</a>&nbsp;or&nbsp;<a href="https://disney.fandom.com/wiki/Chernabog" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Devil in Fantasia</a>.</li><li>We talked about&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/45-curvy-heroines-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">curvy heroines</a>&nbsp;way back at the beginning of this podcast.</li><li>Everything Sian owns is&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/2EwViQxSJJQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">in a box to the left</a>.</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/Ehu31SXYLAc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Beauty and the Beast Library</a>.</li><li>We're all on&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40677587-munro" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Munro Watch</a>.</li><li>Thanks to everyone for listening to season one of Fated Mates!</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/7/20/19-wicked-abyss </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fated Mates returns with Season Two in September — don’t forget to like &amp; subscribe in your favorite podcasting app so you don’t miss a single second of us in your earholes!</p><p>And more than all this — thank you for listening to us talk at you about vampires, valkyries, wolf holograms, horns &amp; Rune for 39 weeks — there honestly aren’t words for how much we love you for listening!</p><p>Team Vertas 4eva! — xoxo Sarah &amp; Jen</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>This is&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/VScSEXRwUqQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The End</a>&nbsp;is by The Doors, and&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/xGytDsqkQY8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Closing Time</a>&nbsp;is by Semisonic.</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://www.rwa.org/Online/News/2019/RITA_Live_Stream.aspx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">RITAs were amazing</a>, and one of the best things about it was this&nbsp;<a href="https://www.rwa.org/Online/Awards/RITA/romance_trailblazers.aspx?WebsiteKey=c531524b-2ea0-41e7-a099-7e5a27062137" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">romance trailblazers</a>&nbsp;video.</li><li>Lila is a&nbsp;<a href="https://www.buzzfeed.com/vchamlee/heres-what-it-takes-to-be-a-full-time-disney-princess" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">face character</a>&nbsp;at Disney.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2KvWJan" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Inside the Mouse</a>&nbsp;is a book you should read, or just this&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/12/magazine/a-rough-guide-to-disney-world.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">New York Times article</a>&nbsp;where John Jerimiah Sullivan (omg. his essays are so good! Read&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2YVdnnC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pulphead</a>!) trying to figure out the best place to smoke weed there. That&nbsp;<a href="https://www.buzzfeed.com/alisoncaporimo/creepy-creepy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Banksey</a>&nbsp;video.</li><li>Because Disney is&nbsp;<a href="https://www.popsugar.com/family/Disney-Vacations-Getting-Too-Expensive-45758367" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">too expensive</a>, #TeamReadsRomance suggests&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thrillist.com/lifestyle/cleveland/best-cedar-point-roller-coasters-rides" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cedar Point if you like roller coasters</a>.</li><li><a href="https://io9.gizmodo.com/heres-how-they-made-helas-thor-ragnarok-headdress-1820372597" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hela's crown in Thor Ragnarok</a>&nbsp;is PRETTY GREAT.</li><li>It's interesting to think about a&nbsp;<a href="https://narrativefirst.com/articles/framing-devices-and-what-they-mean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">framing device</a>&nbsp;and what it does for a story.</li><li>Sarah's WaPo piece about the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/books/how-trump-killed-off-my-romantic-lead/2017/08/08/8e3e40dc-7305-11e7-8839-ec48ec4cae25_story.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alpha Feminist</a>.</li><li>All about&nbsp;<a href="https://literarydevices.net/archetype/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">archetypes</a>&nbsp;and the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.themarysue.com/princesses-tropes/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">princess trope</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.hp-lexicon.org/place/hogwarts-school-of-witchcraft-and-wizardry/hogwarts-seventh-floor/room-of-requirement/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Room of Requirement</a>&nbsp;is part of Hogwards.</li><li>When we talked about time, Sarah recommended Kylie Scott's&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2TxWgaw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Repeat</a>.</li><li>Tim Curry as&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/film/filmblog/2014/jul/03/tim-curry-legend-ridley-scott-role-model" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Darkness in Legend</a>&nbsp;or&nbsp;<a href="https://disney.fandom.com/wiki/Chernabog" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Devil in Fantasia</a>.</li><li>We talked about&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/45-curvy-heroines-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">curvy heroines</a>&nbsp;way back at the beginning of this podcast.</li><li>Everything Sian owns is&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/2EwViQxSJJQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">in a box to the left</a>.</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/Ehu31SXYLAc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Beauty and the Beast Library</a>.</li><li>We're all on&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40677587-munro" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Munro Watch</a>.</li><li>Thanks to everyone for listening to season one of Fated Mates!</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/7/20/19-wicked-abyss </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/7/20/19-wicked-abyss]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5d3319e4de51ea0001cc71bd</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 14 Aug 2019 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/a7447965-0dda-48fc-9716-692cef2812ea/wickedabyss-final-rev294924902.mp3" length="73498662" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:10:23</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>39</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>39</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><itunes:summary>The final book of IAD (so far) is here! We’re talking Sian, Lila, why horns are the BEST, and why the king of  hell is the very best hell-monarch…except for his queen. Also, we talk Disney properties, complicated thoughts on how it is possible that Kresley is still getting better with each book, and the fact that we’re probably going to start a new IAD reread right away because obviously we are.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-a7447965-0dda-48fc-9716-692cef2812ea.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>18.5 : Antiheroes in Romance: Interstitial</title><itunes:title>Antiheroes in Romance</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform so that you know the moment we start Season Two (in early September)!</p><p>Next week, it’s the end! WHAT HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE?! We’re talking Sian (HORNS HORNS HORNS HORNS HORNS HORNS HORNS) &amp; Lila with <a href="https://amzn.to/2ynTc6S" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Wicked Abyss</em></a>, featuring the literal King of Hell, and the Queen who takes fully no shit from him. Get <em>Wicked Abyss</em> at <a href="https://amzn.to/2ynTc6S" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www2.barnesandnoble.com/w/wicked-abyss-kresley-cole/1124115501?type=eBook" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/wicked-abyss/id1135492505?mt=11&amp;app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/wicked-abyss-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781501120381" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">at your local indie</a>!</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>What is&nbsp;<a href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/broadcast-thought/201309/rise-the-antihero" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the appeal of the antihero</a>?</li><li>Fangirl Jeanne wrote a really interesting thread about why she ships villains and&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/fangirlJeanne/status/1143903026287038464" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">what it means to believe in an HEA for everyone</a>.</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1142410957467148289" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sierra Simone Scale</a>&nbsp;seems relevant here.</li><li>We here at Fated Mates love a&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/post/rombklove-day-3-groveling" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">grovel</a>.</li><li><a href="https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MoralityChain" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Morality Chain</a>&nbsp;is a very specific trope.</li><li>Jen's goodreads search for books with&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/13508.Villain_as_romantic_love_interests" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">criminal heroes</a>&nbsp;versus&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show/criminal-heroine" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">criminal heroines</a>.</li><li>Take a minute to&nbsp;<a href="https://www.raicestexas.org/donate/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">donate to RAICES</a>&nbsp;because we do have&nbsp;<a href="https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a27813648/concentration-camps-southern-border-migrant-detention-facilities-trump/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">concentration camps on our border</a>, and it's so hard to know what to do about it.</li><li>Jen and Sarah talked about female antiheroes in pop culture:&nbsp;<a href="https://playitagaindan.wordpress.com/2015/12/22/catherine-zeta-jones-in-traffic-2000/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Catherine Zeta Jones in Traffic</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cinemablend.com/television/14-Fascinating-Things-Mary-Louise-Parker-Revealed-During-Her-Reddit-AMA-62105.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mary Louise Parker in Weeds</a>.</li><li>Jen's Rita thread about how&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1114880492711624710" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">white guys get to be anitheores</a>.</li><li>Movie time references: Sarah is Italian, so since there are no Italian mafia guys anymore, watching&nbsp;<a href="http://mentalfloss.com/article/62427/15-things-you-didnt-know-about-godfather" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Godfather</a>&nbsp;is the only choice. The "one armed man" reference is to&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2018/08/the-fugitive-harrison-ford-25-years-later/566729/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Fugitive</a>.</li><li>What are we talking about when we talk about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.oxfamamerica.org/explore/stories/billionaire-wealth-grows-by-25-billion-a-day-while-poorest-wealth-falls/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">billionaire money</a>.</li><li>A "<a href="https://candicehern.com/regency-world/glossary/diamond-of-the-first-water/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">diamond of the first water</a>"</li><li><a href="http://mollyfader.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Molly Fader</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.molly-okeefe.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Molly O'Keefe, and M. O'Keefe</a>&nbsp;are three pen names for one author who really knows her branding. #Blessed</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/33bwdKI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wicked Abyss</a>&nbsp;in next and then...we're done with season one.&nbsp;<a href="https://grief.com/sixth-stage-of-grief/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Commence mourning</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/7/29/185-antiheroes-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform so that you know the moment we start Season Two (in early September)!</p><p>Next week, it’s the end! WHAT HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE?! We’re talking Sian (HORNS HORNS HORNS HORNS HORNS HORNS HORNS) &amp; Lila with <a href="https://amzn.to/2ynTc6S" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Wicked Abyss</em></a>, featuring the literal King of Hell, and the Queen who takes fully no shit from him. Get <em>Wicked Abyss</em> at <a href="https://amzn.to/2ynTc6S" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www2.barnesandnoble.com/w/wicked-abyss-kresley-cole/1124115501?type=eBook" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/wicked-abyss/id1135492505?mt=11&amp;app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/wicked-abyss-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781501120381" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">at your local indie</a>!</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>What is&nbsp;<a href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/broadcast-thought/201309/rise-the-antihero" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the appeal of the antihero</a>?</li><li>Fangirl Jeanne wrote a really interesting thread about why she ships villains and&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/fangirlJeanne/status/1143903026287038464" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">what it means to believe in an HEA for everyone</a>.</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1142410957467148289" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sierra Simone Scale</a>&nbsp;seems relevant here.</li><li>We here at Fated Mates love a&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/post/rombklove-day-3-groveling" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">grovel</a>.</li><li><a href="https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MoralityChain" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Morality Chain</a>&nbsp;is a very specific trope.</li><li>Jen's goodreads search for books with&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/13508.Villain_as_romantic_love_interests" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">criminal heroes</a>&nbsp;versus&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show/criminal-heroine" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">criminal heroines</a>.</li><li>Take a minute to&nbsp;<a href="https://www.raicestexas.org/donate/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">donate to RAICES</a>&nbsp;because we do have&nbsp;<a href="https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a27813648/concentration-camps-southern-border-migrant-detention-facilities-trump/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">concentration camps on our border</a>, and it's so hard to know what to do about it.</li><li>Jen and Sarah talked about female antiheroes in pop culture:&nbsp;<a href="https://playitagaindan.wordpress.com/2015/12/22/catherine-zeta-jones-in-traffic-2000/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Catherine Zeta Jones in Traffic</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cinemablend.com/television/14-Fascinating-Things-Mary-Louise-Parker-Revealed-During-Her-Reddit-AMA-62105.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mary Louise Parker in Weeds</a>.</li><li>Jen's Rita thread about how&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1114880492711624710" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">white guys get to be anitheores</a>.</li><li>Movie time references: Sarah is Italian, so since there are no Italian mafia guys anymore, watching&nbsp;<a href="http://mentalfloss.com/article/62427/15-things-you-didnt-know-about-godfather" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Godfather</a>&nbsp;is the only choice. The "one armed man" reference is to&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2018/08/the-fugitive-harrison-ford-25-years-later/566729/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Fugitive</a>.</li><li>What are we talking about when we talk about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.oxfamamerica.org/explore/stories/billionaire-wealth-grows-by-25-billion-a-day-while-poorest-wealth-falls/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">billionaire money</a>.</li><li>A "<a href="https://candicehern.com/regency-world/glossary/diamond-of-the-first-water/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">diamond of the first water</a>"</li><li><a href="http://mollyfader.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Molly Fader</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.molly-okeefe.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Molly O'Keefe, and M. O'Keefe</a>&nbsp;are three pen names for one author who really knows her branding. #Blessed</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/33bwdKI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wicked Abyss</a>&nbsp;in next and then...we're done with season one.&nbsp;<a href="https://grief.com/sixth-stage-of-grief/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Commence mourning</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/7/29/185-antiheroes-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/7/29/185-antiheroes-interstitial]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5d3f5eb7f530e500016fb035</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2019 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/de6f4783-78d0-4681-8478-01f593895dcb/fated-mates-antiheroes-final.mp3" length="58218756" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>58:05</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>38</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>38</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><itunes:summary>It seems only right that our final Season One interstitial be about antiheroes because we’ve pretty much been a fancast for antiheroes since the start of this podcast! Let us talk to your earholes about wicked heroes and why we love them!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-de6f4783-78d0-4681-8478-01f593895dcb.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>18: We Got to the Bag of Severed Heads! Shadow&apos;s Claim and Shadow&apos;s Seduction</title><itunes:title>We Got to the Bag of Severed Heads! Shadow&apos;s Claim and Shadow&apos;s Seduction</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review.</p><p>We’re getting down to the wire with Season One of Fated Mates — in two weeks, join us for <a href="https://amzn.to/2ynTc6S" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Wicked Abyss</em></a>, featuring the literal King of Hell, and the Queen who takes fully no shit from him. Get <em>Wicked Abyss</em> at <a href="https://amzn.to/2ynTc6S" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www2.barnesandnoble.com/w/wicked-abyss-kresley-cole/1124115501?type=eBook" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/wicked-abyss/id1135492505?mt=11&amp;app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/wicked-abyss-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781501120381" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">at your local indie</a>!</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>You know Kresley is self-publishing when you see it's <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kresley_Cole" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Valkerie Press</a>.</li><li>In IAD, a <a href="https://immortalsafterdarkiad.fandom.com/wiki/Queens" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sorceri queen</a> has the most power in that area.</li><li> <a href="https://bookriot.com/2016/02/14/love-love-triangle-best-series-include-love-triangle-subplot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love triangles</a> are <a href="https://bookriot.com/2016/02/14/love-love-triangle-best-series-include-love-triangle-subplot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">very common in YA</a>.</li><li>- Eloisa James' first novel was <a href="https://amzn.to/2LDM4Mm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Potent Pleasures</a>, the the line Sarah quoted is: "Charlotte was one week short of 17 when her life was changed, falling into two halves like a shiny child's ball: before and after."</li><li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81013626" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The best thing that ever happened at Coachella</a>.</li><li>Uh. While researching for this podcast, Jen realized that <a href="https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/dance/6598414/deadmau5-cease-desist-deadmouse-the-musical" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Deadmou5</a> is real.</li><li>Sarah's hero/heroine/heroine's best friend on the line book is <a href="https://amzn.to/2ykSEi3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>A Rogue By Any Other Name</em></a>, which you can get in ebook for $1.99 right now!</li><li>There apparently was a crossover between IAD and Gena Showalter's <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/series/46385-lords-of-the-underworld" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lords of the Underworld series</a>. Tell us what you know.</li><li>Gay romance author and all around good guy <a href="https://twitter.com/NathanBurgoine" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nathan Burgoine</a> explains <a href="https://apostrophen.wordpress.com/2016/03/20/for-you/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">why "Gay for You" is a problem</a>.</li><li>No one like a <a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/milksop" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">milksop</a>.</li><li>All about <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_scale" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Kinsey Scale</a>, and Jen thinks of <a href="https://twitter.com/itsonlyzach/status/583251090621231104?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this very funny tweet from her friend Zach</a> every time she hears the phrase "Kinsey scale."</li><li>Happy Days didn't <a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2019/01/08/tv-spinoffs-10-best-and-five-worst-all-time-fosters-goldbergs-joey-colbert-report-good-fight/2472040002/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">spin off</a> from something, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Days#Spin-offs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">it was the spinner</a>. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frasier" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Frasier</a> was a Cheers spin-off. The Dacians is not an IAD spin-off. It is IAD. This is canon now.</li><li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/series/73713-the-arcana-chronicles" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Arcana Chronicles</a> is Kresley's YA series.</li><li>Jen recommends <a href="https://amzn.to/2SyDvDn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Animators</a> by Kayla Rae Whitaker if you're interested in a novel about women artists at work.</li><li>In two weeks, we're finishing Season One (sniff!) with <a href="https://amzn.to/2ynTc6S" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wicked Abyss</a>!</li></ul><br/><h2><strong>Lost Limb Count</strong></h2><p><br></p><p><strong>Arms and Hands (8)</strong></p><p><em>1. Conrad</em> cuts off his own hand with a rusty axe so he escape the "witched" chains his brothers locked him in. (<em>Dark Needs at Night's Edge</em>)</p><p><em>2. Cadeon</em> has both of his hands burned off in the same scene where he loses an eye. There's description of what Cade's baby fingers look like as they are re-growing. It's...kinda gross. (<em>Dark Desires After Dusk</em>)</p><p><em>3. Sebastian</em> pulverizes most of his right arm during the Hie. He regenerates. (<em>No Rest For the Wicked</em>)</p><p><em>4. Lucia</em> peels all the skin off from her hand in order to free herself from some handcuffs. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</p><p>5. In order to retrieve the ring from <em>La Dorada</em> , Lothaire cuts off her finger. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</p><p><em>6. Lanthe</em> and <em>Carrow</em> cut off Fegley's hand so they can use his thumb to unlock their torques. He's later killed. (<em>Demon from the Dark</em>)</p><p>7. After receiving Lothaire's heart in a box, <em>Ellie</em> cuts off her middle finger and sends it to him. (Lothaire)</p><p><em>8. Chloe</em>'s shoulder is dislocated in the escape from her auction (MacRieve).</p><p><strong>Chest and Torso (7)</strong></p><p>1. Omort severs <em>Rydstrom's</em> spine and punches through his torso in a fight. Sabine saves him and enlists Hag to help heal him. (<em>Kiss of a Demon King</em>)</p><p><em>2. Lucia</em>'s neck is broken. She regenerates. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</p><p>3. On Torture Island, <em>Regin</em>,</p><p><em>4. MacRieve</em>,</p><p>5. and <em>Brandr</em> are vivisected. It's pretty terrible. (<em>Dreams of a Dark Warrior</em>)</p><p><em>6. Declan</em>'s skin is peeled off by the Neoptera as a child. (<em>Dreams of a Dark Warrior</em>)</p><p>7. Lothaire rips out his own heart and sends it to Ellie in a box. (<em>Lothaire</em>)</p><p><strong>Head, Face, and Eyes (6)</strong></p><p><em>1. Bowen</em> loses an eye and most of his forehead during the Hie. Mariketa has cursed him and he can't heal until he returns to her. (<em>Wicked Deeds on a Winter's Night</em>)</p><p><em>2. Cadeon</em> loses an eye and part of his forehead and hair when fighting. It all regenerates. (<em>Dark Desires After Dusk</em>)</p><p>3. During a rugby match, <em>Garreth</em> has his teeth knocked out and swallows them. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</p><p><em>4. Lothaire</em> kicks out La Dorada's remaining eye and throws her over a cliff. (<em>Dreams of a Dark Warrior</em>)</p><p>5. In the Bloodroot Forest, the tree grows over <em>Lothaire</em>'s lips and tongue. (<em>Lothaire</em>)</p><p>6. After she gains her immortality, <em>Chloe</em>'s hair grows, but she cuts it off every morning. (MacRieve)</p><p><em>7. Lanthe</em> agrees to have her tongue cut out to save herself and Thronos, knowing she can still use the power of persuasion telepathically. (<em>Dark Skye</em>)</p><p><strong>Horns (2)</strong></p><p><em>8. Cadeon</em> cuts off his own horns to prove to Holly that he is worthy of being her mate. She tells him to let them grow back (<em>Dark Desires After Dusk</em>)</p><p><em>9. Malkolm</em> is captured by his enemies in Oblivion and taken to the city of Ash. The publicly cut off his horns and then intend to kill him, but Carrow saves him. (Demon from the Dark)</p><p><strong>Legs and Feet (3)</strong></p><p><em>1. Lachlain</em> tears off his own leg to reach Emma. He regenerates. (<em>A Hunger Like No Other</em>)</p><p><em>2. Mariketa</em>'s skull is fractured and her leg is torn from her body. She heals herself after Bowen lays on the ground. Ivy grows over her and heals her. (<em>Wicked Deeds on a Winter's Night</em>)</p><p><em>3. Thronos</em> is chasing Melananthe and loses a foot when a portal closes on it. (<em>Kiss of a Demon King</em>)</p><p>4. While in Pandamonia, <em>Thronos</em> is trapped in a Groundhog Day like trap, doomed to repeat his worst nightmare over and over again. When he believes that Lanthe is about to die, he repeatedly tears of his legs in order to reach her. He never actually loses a limb, but he was willing, so we're counting it. (<em>Dark Skye</em>)</p><p><strong>Beheading as a Romantic Gesture (4)</strong></p><p>1. The first time Garreth spies <em>Lucia</em>, it's when she shoots an arrow and beheads a kobold. He notices that it's "a fantastical shot" and he's super into it. Later, he helps her pick up the head because he's a real gentleman like that. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</p><p>2. Later in the book, they are under attack from vampires and Lucia asks him to help. <em>Garreth</em> promises to "give her their throats" and beheads two vampires. But she's upset about it because of a previous bad experience with cannibalism. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</p><p><em>3. Malkolm</em> beheads men that attacked Carrow in Oblvion, and he throws them to prove he's a worthy mate. (<em>Demon from the Dark</em>)</p><p><em>4....]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review.</p><p>We’re getting down to the wire with Season One of Fated Mates — in two weeks, join us for <a href="https://amzn.to/2ynTc6S" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Wicked Abyss</em></a>, featuring the literal King of Hell, and the Queen who takes fully no shit from him. Get <em>Wicked Abyss</em> at <a href="https://amzn.to/2ynTc6S" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www2.barnesandnoble.com/w/wicked-abyss-kresley-cole/1124115501?type=eBook" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/wicked-abyss/id1135492505?mt=11&amp;app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/wicked-abyss-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781501120381" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">at your local indie</a>!</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>You know Kresley is self-publishing when you see it's <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kresley_Cole" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Valkerie Press</a>.</li><li>In IAD, a <a href="https://immortalsafterdarkiad.fandom.com/wiki/Queens" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sorceri queen</a> has the most power in that area.</li><li> <a href="https://bookriot.com/2016/02/14/love-love-triangle-best-series-include-love-triangle-subplot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love triangles</a> are <a href="https://bookriot.com/2016/02/14/love-love-triangle-best-series-include-love-triangle-subplot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">very common in YA</a>.</li><li>- Eloisa James' first novel was <a href="https://amzn.to/2LDM4Mm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Potent Pleasures</a>, the the line Sarah quoted is: "Charlotte was one week short of 17 when her life was changed, falling into two halves like a shiny child's ball: before and after."</li><li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81013626" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The best thing that ever happened at Coachella</a>.</li><li>Uh. While researching for this podcast, Jen realized that <a href="https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/dance/6598414/deadmau5-cease-desist-deadmouse-the-musical" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Deadmou5</a> is real.</li><li>Sarah's hero/heroine/heroine's best friend on the line book is <a href="https://amzn.to/2ykSEi3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>A Rogue By Any Other Name</em></a>, which you can get in ebook for $1.99 right now!</li><li>There apparently was a crossover between IAD and Gena Showalter's <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/series/46385-lords-of-the-underworld" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lords of the Underworld series</a>. Tell us what you know.</li><li>Gay romance author and all around good guy <a href="https://twitter.com/NathanBurgoine" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nathan Burgoine</a> explains <a href="https://apostrophen.wordpress.com/2016/03/20/for-you/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">why "Gay for You" is a problem</a>.</li><li>No one like a <a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/milksop" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">milksop</a>.</li><li>All about <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_scale" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Kinsey Scale</a>, and Jen thinks of <a href="https://twitter.com/itsonlyzach/status/583251090621231104?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this very funny tweet from her friend Zach</a> every time she hears the phrase "Kinsey scale."</li><li>Happy Days didn't <a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2019/01/08/tv-spinoffs-10-best-and-five-worst-all-time-fosters-goldbergs-joey-colbert-report-good-fight/2472040002/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">spin off</a> from something, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Days#Spin-offs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">it was the spinner</a>. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frasier" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Frasier</a> was a Cheers spin-off. The Dacians is not an IAD spin-off. It is IAD. This is canon now.</li><li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/series/73713-the-arcana-chronicles" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Arcana Chronicles</a> is Kresley's YA series.</li><li>Jen recommends <a href="https://amzn.to/2SyDvDn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Animators</a> by Kayla Rae Whitaker if you're interested in a novel about women artists at work.</li><li>In two weeks, we're finishing Season One (sniff!) with <a href="https://amzn.to/2ynTc6S" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wicked Abyss</a>!</li></ul><br/><h2><strong>Lost Limb Count</strong></h2><p><br></p><p><strong>Arms and Hands (8)</strong></p><p><em>1. Conrad</em> cuts off his own hand with a rusty axe so he escape the "witched" chains his brothers locked him in. (<em>Dark Needs at Night's Edge</em>)</p><p><em>2. Cadeon</em> has both of his hands burned off in the same scene where he loses an eye. There's description of what Cade's baby fingers look like as they are re-growing. It's...kinda gross. (<em>Dark Desires After Dusk</em>)</p><p><em>3. Sebastian</em> pulverizes most of his right arm during the Hie. He regenerates. (<em>No Rest For the Wicked</em>)</p><p><em>4. Lucia</em> peels all the skin off from her hand in order to free herself from some handcuffs. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</p><p>5. In order to retrieve the ring from <em>La Dorada</em> , Lothaire cuts off her finger. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</p><p><em>6. Lanthe</em> and <em>Carrow</em> cut off Fegley's hand so they can use his thumb to unlock their torques. He's later killed. (<em>Demon from the Dark</em>)</p><p>7. After receiving Lothaire's heart in a box, <em>Ellie</em> cuts off her middle finger and sends it to him. (Lothaire)</p><p><em>8. Chloe</em>'s shoulder is dislocated in the escape from her auction (MacRieve).</p><p><strong>Chest and Torso (7)</strong></p><p>1. Omort severs <em>Rydstrom's</em> spine and punches through his torso in a fight. Sabine saves him and enlists Hag to help heal him. (<em>Kiss of a Demon King</em>)</p><p><em>2. Lucia</em>'s neck is broken. She regenerates. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</p><p>3. On Torture Island, <em>Regin</em>,</p><p><em>4. MacRieve</em>,</p><p>5. and <em>Brandr</em> are vivisected. It's pretty terrible. (<em>Dreams of a Dark Warrior</em>)</p><p><em>6. Declan</em>'s skin is peeled off by the Neoptera as a child. (<em>Dreams of a Dark Warrior</em>)</p><p>7. Lothaire rips out his own heart and sends it to Ellie in a box. (<em>Lothaire</em>)</p><p><strong>Head, Face, and Eyes (6)</strong></p><p><em>1. Bowen</em> loses an eye and most of his forehead during the Hie. Mariketa has cursed him and he can't heal until he returns to her. (<em>Wicked Deeds on a Winter's Night</em>)</p><p><em>2. Cadeon</em> loses an eye and part of his forehead and hair when fighting. It all regenerates. (<em>Dark Desires After Dusk</em>)</p><p>3. During a rugby match, <em>Garreth</em> has his teeth knocked out and swallows them. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</p><p><em>4. Lothaire</em> kicks out La Dorada's remaining eye and throws her over a cliff. (<em>Dreams of a Dark Warrior</em>)</p><p>5. In the Bloodroot Forest, the tree grows over <em>Lothaire</em>'s lips and tongue. (<em>Lothaire</em>)</p><p>6. After she gains her immortality, <em>Chloe</em>'s hair grows, but she cuts it off every morning. (MacRieve)</p><p><em>7. Lanthe</em> agrees to have her tongue cut out to save herself and Thronos, knowing she can still use the power of persuasion telepathically. (<em>Dark Skye</em>)</p><p><strong>Horns (2)</strong></p><p><em>8. Cadeon</em> cuts off his own horns to prove to Holly that he is worthy of being her mate. She tells him to let them grow back (<em>Dark Desires After Dusk</em>)</p><p><em>9. Malkolm</em> is captured by his enemies in Oblivion and taken to the city of Ash. The publicly cut off his horns and then intend to kill him, but Carrow saves him. (Demon from the Dark)</p><p><strong>Legs and Feet (3)</strong></p><p><em>1. Lachlain</em> tears off his own leg to reach Emma. He regenerates. (<em>A Hunger Like No Other</em>)</p><p><em>2. Mariketa</em>'s skull is fractured and her leg is torn from her body. She heals herself after Bowen lays on the ground. Ivy grows over her and heals her. (<em>Wicked Deeds on a Winter's Night</em>)</p><p><em>3. Thronos</em> is chasing Melananthe and loses a foot when a portal closes on it. (<em>Kiss of a Demon King</em>)</p><p>4. While in Pandamonia, <em>Thronos</em> is trapped in a Groundhog Day like trap, doomed to repeat his worst nightmare over and over again. When he believes that Lanthe is about to die, he repeatedly tears of his legs in order to reach her. He never actually loses a limb, but he was willing, so we're counting it. (<em>Dark Skye</em>)</p><p><strong>Beheading as a Romantic Gesture (4)</strong></p><p>1. The first time Garreth spies <em>Lucia</em>, it's when she shoots an arrow and beheads a kobold. He notices that it's "a fantastical shot" and he's super into it. Later, he helps her pick up the head because he's a real gentleman like that. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</p><p>2. Later in the book, they are under attack from vampires and Lucia asks him to help. <em>Garreth</em> promises to "give her their throats" and beheads two vampires. But she's upset about it because of a previous bad experience with cannibalism. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</p><p><em>3. Malkolm</em> beheads men that attacked Carrow in Oblvion, and he throws them to prove he's a worthy mate. (<em>Demon from the Dark</em>)</p><p><em>4. Declan</em> fights and beheads several creatures as they escape Torture Island, including squeezing one dude so hard his eyes pop out and then he twists his head off. (<em>Dreams of a Dark Warrior</em>)</p><p>5. Thronos beheads several foes during fights, which impresses <em>Lanthe</em>; but he also beheads Felix, a sorcerer who once tricked Lanthe and stole her sorcery. (<em>Dark Skye</em>)</p><p>6. The bag of heads, yo. This is the pinnicle of this category, obviously. (<em>Shadow's Claim</em>)</p><p><strong>Beheading as a Non-Romantic Gesture</strong></p><p>1. Ellie cuts off <em>Lothaire</em>'s head, leaving a slender 1/8 of an inch left. It was kind of an accident, but he deserved it. (Lothaire)</p><p><strong>Maybe?</strong></p><p>1. Does Garreth's losing his connection with his mortal soul count? (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</p><p>2. When Soroya inhabited <em>Ellie</em>'s body, she subjected her to a full Brazilian wax. Ellie doesn't realize it's happened until she takes control of her body again. (<em>Lothaire</em>)</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/7/20/18-shadows-claim-and-shadows-seduction]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5d331906fabc590001848c47</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 31 Jul 2019 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/9cc25234-8c53-4c0c-bf09-cee048cc253b/shadows-final-rev334.mp3" length="62560848" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:01:35</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>37</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>37</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We’re taking a turn into the world of the Dacians, and Jen and Sarah are having STRIFE because, as usual, Jen is wrong. We’re combining Shadow’s Claim and Shadow’s Seduction — talking about what it means to be a Kresley heroine, why writers tackle spin off series, the challenges of straight writers writing queer stories, and why we would appreciate receiving the heads of our enemies as tributes.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-9cc25234-8c53-4c0c-bf09-cee048cc253b.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>17.5: This isn&apos;t a podcast; this is a Brazen and the Beast hype video</title><itunes:title>This isn&apos;t a podcast; this is a Brazen and the Beast hype video</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Next week, we’re tackling the Dacians in two weeks with a two-for-one episode featuring both of these Lothaire spinoff stories, <a href="https://amzn.to/30sjEbp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shadow's Claim</a> (featuring demon-sorceress Bettina and Dacian assassin Trehan) &amp; <a href="https://amzn.to/2XD1TEw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shadow's Seduction</a> (featuring Caspion the demon and Mirceo the vampire prince)!</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Jen loves hype video, and there are some&nbsp;<a href="https://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2015/7/5/8895701/uswnt-fan-makes-amazing-world-cup-final-hype-video" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">for the USWNT</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/d6xKv36xHiM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">are amazing</a>.</li><li>All about&nbsp;<a href="https://bookriot.com/2018/08/17/how-to-get-books-before-theyre-published/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">advanced reading copies</a>&nbsp;(ARCs) and what it looks like when you get&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/BxqUR7cHRsn/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">typeset pages</a>.</li><li>Jen has a new title at Kirkus: romance correspondent. She's been&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/features/robin-lovett/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">interviewing</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/features/marie-tremayne/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a lot</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/features/reese-ryan/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">of authors</a>.</li><li>Kate Clayborn perfectly described&nbsp;<a href="https://frolic.media/grunt-work-when-your-romance-herp-can-barely-make-a-sound/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">why we love a grunting hero</a>.</li><li>Only&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_women_CEOs_of_Fortune_500_companieshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_women_CEOs_of_Fortune_500_companies" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">33 Fortune 500 CEOs are women</a>, which is nonsense.</li><li>Listen to our&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/45-curvy-heroines-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Curvy Heroines interstitial</a>.</li><li><a href="http://www.coventgardenmemories.org.uk/page_id__33_path__0p36p.aspx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Covent Garden</a>&nbsp;and the&nbsp;<a href="https://pastinthepresent.net/category/changing-london/rookeries-of-london/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">rookeries</a>.</li><li>What's a&nbsp;<a href="https://www.debretts.com/expertise/essential-guide-to-the-peerage/ranks-and-privileges-of-the-peerage/life-peer/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">life peerage</a>?</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/960281122918862848?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Derek</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1092522175184232453?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Craven</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1102662303923798017?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">forever</a>.</li><li>What it means to be&nbsp;<a href="https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/4726621/Womens-on-the-shelf-life.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"on the shelf."</a></li><li>Audiobook narrator&nbsp;<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouseaudio.com/narrator/69675/justine-eyre/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Justine Eyre</a>&nbsp;is the narrator for Sarah's books. Can you even imagine what would happen if she and Petkoff ever got together and narrated a romance?</li><li>Preorder Brazen &amp; the Beast at&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2D4RLx3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="http://bit.ly/2GbmPNF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>,&nbsp;<a href="http://bit.ly/2YYRFAl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://apple.co/2WYNnqH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a>, or&nbsp;<a href="http://bit.ly/2CZsuV1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Indiebound</a>&nbsp;-- or from Sarah's local indie, WORD, and&nbsp;<a href="http://www.wordbookstores.com/sarahmaclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">get it signed and with fun goodies</a>!</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/7/20/175-this-isnt-a-podcast-this-is-a-brazen-and-the-beast-hype-episode </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Next week, we’re tackling the Dacians in two weeks with a two-for-one episode featuring both of these Lothaire spinoff stories, <a href="https://amzn.to/30sjEbp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shadow's Claim</a> (featuring demon-sorceress Bettina and Dacian assassin Trehan) &amp; <a href="https://amzn.to/2XD1TEw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shadow's Seduction</a> (featuring Caspion the demon and Mirceo the vampire prince)!</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Jen loves hype video, and there are some&nbsp;<a href="https://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2015/7/5/8895701/uswnt-fan-makes-amazing-world-cup-final-hype-video" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">for the USWNT</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/d6xKv36xHiM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">are amazing</a>.</li><li>All about&nbsp;<a href="https://bookriot.com/2018/08/17/how-to-get-books-before-theyre-published/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">advanced reading copies</a>&nbsp;(ARCs) and what it looks like when you get&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/BxqUR7cHRsn/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">typeset pages</a>.</li><li>Jen has a new title at Kirkus: romance correspondent. She's been&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/features/robin-lovett/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">interviewing</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/features/marie-tremayne/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a lot</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/features/reese-ryan/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">of authors</a>.</li><li>Kate Clayborn perfectly described&nbsp;<a href="https://frolic.media/grunt-work-when-your-romance-herp-can-barely-make-a-sound/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">why we love a grunting hero</a>.</li><li>Only&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_women_CEOs_of_Fortune_500_companieshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_women_CEOs_of_Fortune_500_companies" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">33 Fortune 500 CEOs are women</a>, which is nonsense.</li><li>Listen to our&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/45-curvy-heroines-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Curvy Heroines interstitial</a>.</li><li><a href="http://www.coventgardenmemories.org.uk/page_id__33_path__0p36p.aspx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Covent Garden</a>&nbsp;and the&nbsp;<a href="https://pastinthepresent.net/category/changing-london/rookeries-of-london/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">rookeries</a>.</li><li>What's a&nbsp;<a href="https://www.debretts.com/expertise/essential-guide-to-the-peerage/ranks-and-privileges-of-the-peerage/life-peer/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">life peerage</a>?</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/960281122918862848?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Derek</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1092522175184232453?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Craven</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1102662303923798017?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">forever</a>.</li><li>What it means to be&nbsp;<a href="https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/4726621/Womens-on-the-shelf-life.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"on the shelf."</a></li><li>Audiobook narrator&nbsp;<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouseaudio.com/narrator/69675/justine-eyre/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Justine Eyre</a>&nbsp;is the narrator for Sarah's books. Can you even imagine what would happen if she and Petkoff ever got together and narrated a romance?</li><li>Preorder Brazen &amp; the Beast at&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2D4RLx3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="http://bit.ly/2GbmPNF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>,&nbsp;<a href="http://bit.ly/2YYRFAl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://apple.co/2WYNnqH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a>, or&nbsp;<a href="http://bit.ly/2CZsuV1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Indiebound</a>&nbsp;-- or from Sarah's local indie, WORD, and&nbsp;<a href="http://www.wordbookstores.com/sarahmaclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">get it signed and with fun goodies</a>!</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/7/20/175-this-isnt-a-podcast-this-is-a-brazen-and-the-beast-hype-episode </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/7/20/175-this-isnt-a-podcast-this-is-a-brazen-and-the-beast-hype-episode]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5d331828fabc5900018483a9</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 24 Jul 2019 11:48:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/eb74f976-719b-4d8f-b2c9-65aba2583b30/fated-mates-special-edition-final-reva.mp3" length="45811735" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>44:51</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>36</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>36</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Sarah has a new book coming next week! Listen to Jen ask her all kinds of questions that she can’t answer…and also talk about why silent, grunting heroes are the best kinds. Preorder now, and get Brazen the second it is released into the world on Tuesday, July 30th!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-eb74f976-719b-4d8f-b2c9-65aba2583b30.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>17: Sexclamation Points! - The Player!</title><itunes:title>Sexclamation Points! - The Player!</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Our favorite person, Kate Clayborn, is back with us to wrap up the Game Makers series with THE PLAYER! Join us as Sarah explains all the ways that the damaged hero works for her (Spoiler: It’s Every Single Way), Kate digs deep on Kresley’s liberal use of punctuation, and Jen admits that Sarah was right all along. </p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review.</p><p>We’re getting down to the wire with IAD, but because we’re completists, we’re tackling the Dacians in two weeks with a two-for-one episode featuring both of these Lothaire spinoff stories, <a href="https://amzn.to/30sjEbp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shadow's Claim</a> (featuring demon-sorceress Bettina and Dacian assassin Trehan) &amp; <a href="https://amzn.to/2XD1TEw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shadow's Seduction</a> (featuring Caspion the demon and Mirceo the vampire prince)!</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Wecome back,&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/kateclayborn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kate</a>!</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2lIonXL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Grassy Knoll</a>&nbsp;isn't much of a knoll, anymore. But if you're ever in Dallas, check out the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jfk.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sixth Floor Museum</a>.</li><li>This kind of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=teabagging" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">teabagging</a>&nbsp;does not appear on the Clayborn Scale.</li><li>YA Author&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/carrieryan" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Carrie Ryan</a>&nbsp;has smart things to say about first person and&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2k9BWPe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">scary things to say about zombies</a>.</li><li>Famous for having a big reveal:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Usual_Suspects" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Usual Suspects</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sixth_Sense" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Sixth Sense</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Da_Vinci_Code" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The DaVinci Code</a>. Not famous for a big reveal:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.indiewire.com/2019/04/meet-joe-black-viral-brad-pitt-car-accident-scene-1202057973/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Meet Joe Black</a>.</li><li><a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/2019/04/sexual-assault-in-romance/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">We should have asked Adriana Herrera</a>&nbsp;about Dimitri's trauma.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky_(film_series)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rocky</a>&nbsp;was also a self-made man, and you cannot even convince Jen that the person who invented CrossFit didn't&nbsp;<a href="https://www.artofmanliness.com/articles/train-like-rocky-every-exercise-every-montage/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">rapturously watch this a million times</a>.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2l9H8mt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dryer's English</a>&nbsp;is a book that all the writing nerds had a pre-order, and he has&nbsp;<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gO4-rYocfOYNv9QwH318K9xucqopM_P3/view?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">strong</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EyAZUnsrUuWMxAZYXFJjk542gx_t5_Ez/view?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">opinions</a>&nbsp;about exclamation points, but absolutley nothing to say about sexclamation points.</li><li>Everyone loves&nbsp;<a href="https://literarydevices.net/foreshadowing/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">foreshadowing</a>.</li><li>But in romance, no one loves an&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unreliable_narrator" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">unreliable narrator</a>.</li><li>Jen recommends the YA novel&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2lcESe0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">One of Us is Lying</a>, or you could kick it old-school and watch&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashomon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Roshomon</a>.</li><li>Pre-order&nbsp;<a href="https://www.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brazen and the Beast</a>! and&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2lczZ4Q" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love Lettering</a>! And read Jen's interviews with&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/features/reese-ryan/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Reese Ryan</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/features/marie-tremayne/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Marie Tremayne</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/features/robin-lovett/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Robin Lovett</a>&nbsp;on Kirkus.</li><li>In two weeks, we're back to IAD with the Dacian two-fer:&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/30sjEbp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shadow's Claim</a>&nbsp;&amp;&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2XD1TEw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shadow's Seduction</a>!</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/27/17-the-player </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our favorite person, Kate Clayborn, is back with us to wrap up the Game Makers series with THE PLAYER! Join us as Sarah explains all the ways that the damaged hero works for her (Spoiler: It’s Every Single Way), Kate digs deep on Kresley’s liberal use of punctuation, and Jen admits that Sarah was right all along. </p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review.</p><p>We’re getting down to the wire with IAD, but because we’re completists, we’re tackling the Dacians in two weeks with a two-for-one episode featuring both of these Lothaire spinoff stories, <a href="https://amzn.to/30sjEbp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shadow's Claim</a> (featuring demon-sorceress Bettina and Dacian assassin Trehan) &amp; <a href="https://amzn.to/2XD1TEw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shadow's Seduction</a> (featuring Caspion the demon and Mirceo the vampire prince)!</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Wecome back,&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/kateclayborn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kate</a>!</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2lIonXL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Grassy Knoll</a>&nbsp;isn't much of a knoll, anymore. But if you're ever in Dallas, check out the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jfk.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sixth Floor Museum</a>.</li><li>This kind of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=teabagging" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">teabagging</a>&nbsp;does not appear on the Clayborn Scale.</li><li>YA Author&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/carrieryan" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Carrie Ryan</a>&nbsp;has smart things to say about first person and&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2k9BWPe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">scary things to say about zombies</a>.</li><li>Famous for having a big reveal:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Usual_Suspects" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Usual Suspects</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sixth_Sense" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Sixth Sense</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Da_Vinci_Code" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The DaVinci Code</a>. Not famous for a big reveal:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.indiewire.com/2019/04/meet-joe-black-viral-brad-pitt-car-accident-scene-1202057973/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Meet Joe Black</a>.</li><li><a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/2019/04/sexual-assault-in-romance/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">We should have asked Adriana Herrera</a>&nbsp;about Dimitri's trauma.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky_(film_series)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rocky</a>&nbsp;was also a self-made man, and you cannot even convince Jen that the person who invented CrossFit didn't&nbsp;<a href="https://www.artofmanliness.com/articles/train-like-rocky-every-exercise-every-montage/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">rapturously watch this a million times</a>.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2l9H8mt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dryer's English</a>&nbsp;is a book that all the writing nerds had a pre-order, and he has&nbsp;<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gO4-rYocfOYNv9QwH318K9xucqopM_P3/view?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">strong</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EyAZUnsrUuWMxAZYXFJjk542gx_t5_Ez/view?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">opinions</a>&nbsp;about exclamation points, but absolutley nothing to say about sexclamation points.</li><li>Everyone loves&nbsp;<a href="https://literarydevices.net/foreshadowing/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">foreshadowing</a>.</li><li>But in romance, no one loves an&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unreliable_narrator" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">unreliable narrator</a>.</li><li>Jen recommends the YA novel&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2lcESe0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">One of Us is Lying</a>, or you could kick it old-school and watch&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashomon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Roshomon</a>.</li><li>Pre-order&nbsp;<a href="https://www.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brazen and the Beast</a>! and&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2lczZ4Q" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love Lettering</a>! And read Jen's interviews with&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/features/reese-ryan/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Reese Ryan</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/features/marie-tremayne/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Marie Tremayne</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kirkusreviews.com/features/robin-lovett/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Robin Lovett</a>&nbsp;on Kirkus.</li><li>In two weeks, we're back to IAD with the Dacian two-fer:&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/30sjEbp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shadow's Claim</a>&nbsp;&amp;&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2XD1TEw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shadow's Seduction</a>!</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/27/17-the-player </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/27/17-the-player]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5d155cd2a8d2da0001db84e2</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 17 Jul 2019 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/2c9080fa-32e3-4094-b1ce-762d6d71523f/fated-mates-the-player-final.mp3" length="83393261" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:21:00</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>35</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>35</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Our favorite person, Kate Clayborn, is back with us to wrap up the Game Makers series with THE PLAYER! Join us as Sarah explains all the ways that the damaged hero works for her (Spoiler: It’s Every Single Way), Kate digs deep on Kresley’s liberal use of punctuation, and Jen admits that Sarah was right all along.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-2c9080fa-32e3-4094-b1ce-762d6d71523f.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>16.5 :  Royals Romance with Nana Malone</title><itunes:title>Royals Romance with Nana Malone</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This week we’re talking all things royal! Join us with the fabulously fun Nana Malone to talk about kings, queens, princes and princesses, royal weddings, royal gossip, why Nick Jonas married SO FAR ABOVE HIMSELF, and how we wish poor Kate Middleton could just have a cheeseburger with her friends.  </p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review.</p><p>Next week, we’re finishing up the Game Makers series with arguably Kresley’s most damaged hero, Dmitri Sevastyan! Basically, July is “Sarah’s favorite books” month, so settle in for that…we’ll be joined by one of our favorites, Kate Clayborn, who will reveal the name of our group text thread! Read <em>The Player </em>at <a href="https://amzn.to/2XnkOZ0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-player-kresley-cole/1123445876" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-player/id1086804667?mt=11&amp;app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-player-27" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9780997215113" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local Indie</a>.</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Welcome,&nbsp;<a href="http://nanamaloneromance.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nana Malone</a>!</li><li>We were all about talking about songs and music videos today:&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/nlcIKh6sBtc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Royals by Lorde</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/KdS6HFQ_LUc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">S&amp;M by Rhianna</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/Pkh8UtuejGw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Senorita by Shawn Mendes and Camila Cabello</a>. Bonus&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1142872917392408578" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">hilarious conversation between Jen and her son</a>&nbsp;about that last one.</li><li><a href="https://blogs.transparent.com/english/the-silent-letter-e-in-english-why-is-it-there/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The e is silent</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/8510721/shawn-mendes-calvin-klein-campaign-photos-exclusive" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shawn Mendes in Calvin Klein</a>.</li><li>All about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/worlds-biggest-boy-bands.html/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">boy bands</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-modern-teen/201101/why-girls-get-bieber-fever-hollywood-are-you-listening" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">why girls love them</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/oct/11/how-bts-became-the-worlds-biggest-boyband" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the powerhouse that is BTS</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.wmagazine.com/gallery/justin-bieber-hair-cuts-styles-history" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the many hairstyles of Justin Beiber</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.harpersbazaar.com/uk/celebrities/g25650484/every-outfit-priyanka-chopra-has-worn-during-her-wedding-celebrations/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nick Jonas married up</a>...&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B07S64HKRF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chasing that happiness</a>, I guess.&nbsp;<a href="https://footwearnews.com/2019/fashion/celebrity-style/priyanka-chopra-jimmy-fallon-tonight-show-1202739478/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Priyanka Chopra is unbelievably gorgeous</a>. We stan.</li><li><a href="https://variety.com/gallery/royal-wedding-prince-harry-meghan-markle-photos/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Meghan and Harry's wedding</a>&nbsp;was our favorite movie of 2018, but&nbsp;<a href="https://www.rd.com/culture/princess-diana-wedding-photos/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Charles and Diana's</a>&nbsp;makes us sad. Jen's favorite moment is the singing of&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/e35ttXQ5qu4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stand by Me</a>, but Sarah's daughter likes&nbsp;<a href="https://www.townandcountrymag.com/style/fashion-trends/a25616180/amal-clooney-stella-mccartney-dress-royal-wedding/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this yellow lady</a>.</li><li><a href="https://people.com/royals/kate-middleton-style-rut-summer-outfits/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kate Middleton</a>&nbsp;has a new fashion plan.</li><li>This list on Goodreads has&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/3211.Dukes_Bring_em_on_" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FOUR HUNDRED AND FOUR</a>&nbsp;romances where the hero is a duke.</li><li>Prince Albert of Monaco married Grace Kelly and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.telegraph.co.uk/fashion/people/why-grace-kellys-wedding-dress-still-looks-impeccable-60-years-o/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">her wedding dress</a>&nbsp;is still gorgeous sixty years later.</li><li>All about&nbsp;<a href="https://romanceclassbooks.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Romanceclass authors</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show/romanceclass" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">their books</a>.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1108895299660070913" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen loves John Wick</a>. But then again,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/travisbean/2019/06/09/john-wick-franchise-passes-500m-at-box-office/#6be7f50b2712" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">who doesn't</a>?</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1142410957467148289" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Sierra Simone taboo scale</a>.</li><li>That Sex in the City episode with&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/89S8OyqvWoU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the "bum licker,"</a>&nbsp;as Nana said.</li><li>Sarah wants 16th century Assassin's Creed, so this series by Robin LeFevers about&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/30l8x4f" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a bunch of teenage assassin nuns</a>&nbsp;is the obvious answer.</li><li><a href="https://www.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Have you pre-ordered Brazen &amp; the Beast</a>?</li><li>We can't keep track of what we're reading, when. Next week,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2XnkOZ0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Player</a>! In three weeks, back to IAD with the Dacian two-fer:&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/30sjEbp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shadow's Claim</a>&nbsp;&amp;&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2XD1TEw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shadow's Seduction</a>!</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/27/165-royals-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week we’re talking all things royal! Join us with the fabulously fun Nana Malone to talk about kings, queens, princes and princesses, royal weddings, royal gossip, why Nick Jonas married SO FAR ABOVE HIMSELF, and how we wish poor Kate Middleton could just have a cheeseburger with her friends.  </p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review.</p><p>Next week, we’re finishing up the Game Makers series with arguably Kresley’s most damaged hero, Dmitri Sevastyan! Basically, July is “Sarah’s favorite books” month, so settle in for that…we’ll be joined by one of our favorites, Kate Clayborn, who will reveal the name of our group text thread! Read <em>The Player </em>at <a href="https://amzn.to/2XnkOZ0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-player-kresley-cole/1123445876" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-player/id1086804667?mt=11&amp;app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-player-27" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9780997215113" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local Indie</a>.</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Welcome,&nbsp;<a href="http://nanamaloneromance.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nana Malone</a>!</li><li>We were all about talking about songs and music videos today:&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/nlcIKh6sBtc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Royals by Lorde</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/KdS6HFQ_LUc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">S&amp;M by Rhianna</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/Pkh8UtuejGw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Senorita by Shawn Mendes and Camila Cabello</a>. Bonus&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1142872917392408578" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">hilarious conversation between Jen and her son</a>&nbsp;about that last one.</li><li><a href="https://blogs.transparent.com/english/the-silent-letter-e-in-english-why-is-it-there/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The e is silent</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/8510721/shawn-mendes-calvin-klein-campaign-photos-exclusive" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shawn Mendes in Calvin Klein</a>.</li><li>All about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/worlds-biggest-boy-bands.html/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">boy bands</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-modern-teen/201101/why-girls-get-bieber-fever-hollywood-are-you-listening" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">why girls love them</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/oct/11/how-bts-became-the-worlds-biggest-boyband" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the powerhouse that is BTS</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.wmagazine.com/gallery/justin-bieber-hair-cuts-styles-history" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the many hairstyles of Justin Beiber</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.harpersbazaar.com/uk/celebrities/g25650484/every-outfit-priyanka-chopra-has-worn-during-her-wedding-celebrations/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nick Jonas married up</a>...&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B07S64HKRF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chasing that happiness</a>, I guess.&nbsp;<a href="https://footwearnews.com/2019/fashion/celebrity-style/priyanka-chopra-jimmy-fallon-tonight-show-1202739478/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Priyanka Chopra is unbelievably gorgeous</a>. We stan.</li><li><a href="https://variety.com/gallery/royal-wedding-prince-harry-meghan-markle-photos/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Meghan and Harry's wedding</a>&nbsp;was our favorite movie of 2018, but&nbsp;<a href="https://www.rd.com/culture/princess-diana-wedding-photos/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Charles and Diana's</a>&nbsp;makes us sad. Jen's favorite moment is the singing of&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/e35ttXQ5qu4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stand by Me</a>, but Sarah's daughter likes&nbsp;<a href="https://www.townandcountrymag.com/style/fashion-trends/a25616180/amal-clooney-stella-mccartney-dress-royal-wedding/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this yellow lady</a>.</li><li><a href="https://people.com/royals/kate-middleton-style-rut-summer-outfits/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kate Middleton</a>&nbsp;has a new fashion plan.</li><li>This list on Goodreads has&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/3211.Dukes_Bring_em_on_" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FOUR HUNDRED AND FOUR</a>&nbsp;romances where the hero is a duke.</li><li>Prince Albert of Monaco married Grace Kelly and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.telegraph.co.uk/fashion/people/why-grace-kellys-wedding-dress-still-looks-impeccable-60-years-o/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">her wedding dress</a>&nbsp;is still gorgeous sixty years later.</li><li>All about&nbsp;<a href="https://romanceclassbooks.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Romanceclass authors</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show/romanceclass" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">their books</a>.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1108895299660070913" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen loves John Wick</a>. But then again,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/travisbean/2019/06/09/john-wick-franchise-passes-500m-at-box-office/#6be7f50b2712" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">who doesn't</a>?</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1142410957467148289" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Sierra Simone taboo scale</a>.</li><li>That Sex in the City episode with&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/89S8OyqvWoU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the "bum licker,"</a>&nbsp;as Nana said.</li><li>Sarah wants 16th century Assassin's Creed, so this series by Robin LeFevers about&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/30l8x4f" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a bunch of teenage assassin nuns</a>&nbsp;is the obvious answer.</li><li><a href="https://www.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Have you pre-ordered Brazen &amp; the Beast</a>?</li><li>We can't keep track of what we're reading, when. Next week,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2XnkOZ0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Player</a>! In three weeks, back to IAD with the Dacian two-fer:&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/30sjEbp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shadow's Claim</a>&nbsp;&amp;&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2XD1TEw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shadow's Seduction</a>!</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/27/165-royals-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/27/165-royals-interstitial]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5d155c6659fb7700015d721f</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 10 Jul 2019 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/dafdf119-2a9f-4492-89fb-b1c4a76142db/fated-mates-royals.mp3" length="66088161" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:04:09</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>34</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>34</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><itunes:summary>This week we’re talking all things royal! Join us with the fabulously fun Nana Malone to talk about kings, queens, princes and princesses, royal weddings, royal gossip, why Nick Jonas married SO FAR ABOVE HIMSELF, and how we wish poor Kate Middleton could just have a cheeseburger with her friends.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-dafdf119-2a9f-4492-89fb-b1c4a76142db.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>16: Was It as Good For You as it Was For Me? Sweet Ruin</title><itunes:title>Was It as Good For You as it Was For Me? Sweet Ruin</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>IT’S HAPPENNNINNNGGGGG! <em>Sweet Ruin</em>, Sarah’s favorite book in the IAD series, is finally here and she is BEYOND EXCITED to talk about her favorite Kresley hero and the magnificent, perfect heroine who refuses to back down from their fated matehood. Listen as Jen and Sarah discuss Nix as Warrior Queen, make important demands of fan fiction writers in the IAD universe, and generally discuss why this book is one of the best of the series, without question. Block off some time and be sure to use the bathroom before you start, because this one clocks in at two hours (and we’ve already realized we forgot to talk about a few things — so prepare for updates in future episodes!) </p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review.</p><p>In two weeks, we’re finishing up the Game Makers series with arguably Kresley’s most broken hero (don’t worry, we’ll get to the bottom of this ranking on the episode), Dmitri Sevastyan! Basically, July is “Sarah’s favorite books” month, so settle in for that…we’ll be joined by one of our favorites, Kate Clayborn, who will reveal the name of our group text thread! Read <em>The Player </em>at <a href="https://amzn.to/2XnkOZ0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-player-kresley-cole/1123445876" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-player/id1086804667?mt=11&amp;app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-player-27" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9780997215113" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local Indie</a>.</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Short chapters&nbsp;<a href="https://www.writersdigest.com/writing-articles/by-writing-goal/improve-my-writing/7-tools-for-pacing-a-novel-keeping-your-story-moving-at-the-right-pace" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">make for quick pacing</a>.</li><li>The Morior are like the&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Friends" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Super Friends</a>...but&nbsp;<a href="https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Crime_Syndicate_(Earth_3)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">evil</a>.</li><li>All about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.startrek.com/database_article/enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Starship Enterprise</a>.</li><li>More about&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Familiar_spirit" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a witch's familiar</a>.</li><li><a href="https://norse-mythology.org/runes/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Runes</a>&nbsp;are actually from Norse Mythology. You'd think Rune would&nbsp;<a href="https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/vikings/runes.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">use the internet</a>&nbsp;to learn more about them.</li><li>Rune is&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/L-Q5aFU8X3E" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">poison</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1143163076759474176" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">to everyone but her</a>. Jen's never read&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2LyQ9Rk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Poisoner's Handbook</a>, but everyone says it's amazing.</li><li>Thinking about&nbsp;<a href="https://literarydevices.net/theme/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">theme as a literary device</a>&nbsp;isn't just for English class.</li><li>Our twitter friend&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/GothamCitySista" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Aunt Angelique has changed her username</a>, so follow her for&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/GothamCitySista/status/1143125342040842240" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">interesting tidbits like this.</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/katebig/status/1143290420350181381" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">That cock tweet</a>.</li><li>All about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.healthline.com/health/healthy-sex/edging-orgasm-control" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">edging</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.marianatrench.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Mariana Trench</a>&nbsp;is real deep, y'all, but we've still discovered&nbsp;<a href="https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2018/05/plastic-bag-mariana-trench-pollution-science-spd/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">plastic</a>&nbsp;there.</li><li><a href="https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2017-06-27/how-did-uluru-and-kata-tjuta-form/8572068" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Uluru</a>&nbsp;is a&nbsp;<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/11/01/some-aborigines-say-to-disturb-uluru-is-a-curse-australia-says-climbing-it-will-soon-be-crime/?utm_term=.744a8ed79b3d" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sacred place for Aborigines</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.australiangeographic.com.au/blogs/on-this-day/2013/11/on-this-day-uluru-given-its-aboriginal-name/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Australia reverted to officially</a>&nbsp;using this name in 2002.</li><li><a href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/evolution-the-self/201401/five-biggest-problems-revenge-and-its-best-remedies" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Revenge is stupid</a>.</li><li>Jen loves that scene where&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/jqIBGEcKhGs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Captain America beats the shit out of everyone in the elevato</a>r.</li><li>In case you need help finding&nbsp;<a href="https://couplenamegenerator.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shipper Names</a>.</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/BsqvjTvlqfn/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What Would Allixta Do</a>&nbsp;Button.</li><li>The story of&nbsp;<a href="https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Supergirl_Origins" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Supergirl</a>.</li><li>Speaking of our Heaving Bosoms friends, It wasn't Melody,&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/Heaving_Bosoms/status/1066925990725607424" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">it was Erin</a>&nbsp;who said she doesn't read epilogues!</li><li><a href="https://www.quotes.net/mquote/89394" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Speed is a romance</a>. Don't at Jen or&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/bandherbooks" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bandherbooks</a>.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2RTM9fd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Player</a>&nbsp;is coming up after our next interstitial!</li><li><a href="https://www.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pre-order Brazen and the Beast</a>, and if you say "Fated Mates" in the notes, Sarah will include a Fated Mates sticker!</li><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/7/1/transcript-for-episode-16-was-it-as-good-for-you-as-it-was-for-me-sweet-ruin" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Click here</a>&nbsp;for the transcript of this episode.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/27/16-sweet-ruin </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IT’S HAPPENNNINNNGGGGG! <em>Sweet Ruin</em>, Sarah’s favorite book in the IAD series, is finally here and she is BEYOND EXCITED to talk about her favorite Kresley hero and the magnificent, perfect heroine who refuses to back down from their fated matehood. Listen as Jen and Sarah discuss Nix as Warrior Queen, make important demands of fan fiction writers in the IAD universe, and generally discuss why this book is one of the best of the series, without question. Block off some time and be sure to use the bathroom before you start, because this one clocks in at two hours (and we’ve already realized we forgot to talk about a few things — so prepare for updates in future episodes!) </p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review.</p><p>In two weeks, we’re finishing up the Game Makers series with arguably Kresley’s most broken hero (don’t worry, we’ll get to the bottom of this ranking on the episode), Dmitri Sevastyan! Basically, July is “Sarah’s favorite books” month, so settle in for that…we’ll be joined by one of our favorites, Kate Clayborn, who will reveal the name of our group text thread! Read <em>The Player </em>at <a href="https://amzn.to/2XnkOZ0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-player-kresley-cole/1123445876" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-player/id1086804667?mt=11&amp;app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-player-27" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9780997215113" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local Indie</a>.</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Short chapters&nbsp;<a href="https://www.writersdigest.com/writing-articles/by-writing-goal/improve-my-writing/7-tools-for-pacing-a-novel-keeping-your-story-moving-at-the-right-pace" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">make for quick pacing</a>.</li><li>The Morior are like the&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Friends" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Super Friends</a>...but&nbsp;<a href="https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Crime_Syndicate_(Earth_3)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">evil</a>.</li><li>All about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.startrek.com/database_article/enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Starship Enterprise</a>.</li><li>More about&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Familiar_spirit" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a witch's familiar</a>.</li><li><a href="https://norse-mythology.org/runes/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Runes</a>&nbsp;are actually from Norse Mythology. You'd think Rune would&nbsp;<a href="https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/vikings/runes.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">use the internet</a>&nbsp;to learn more about them.</li><li>Rune is&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/L-Q5aFU8X3E" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">poison</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1143163076759474176" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">to everyone but her</a>. Jen's never read&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2LyQ9Rk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Poisoner's Handbook</a>, but everyone says it's amazing.</li><li>Thinking about&nbsp;<a href="https://literarydevices.net/theme/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">theme as a literary device</a>&nbsp;isn't just for English class.</li><li>Our twitter friend&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/GothamCitySista" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Aunt Angelique has changed her username</a>, so follow her for&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/GothamCitySista/status/1143125342040842240" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">interesting tidbits like this.</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/katebig/status/1143290420350181381" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">That cock tweet</a>.</li><li>All about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.healthline.com/health/healthy-sex/edging-orgasm-control" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">edging</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.marianatrench.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Mariana Trench</a>&nbsp;is real deep, y'all, but we've still discovered&nbsp;<a href="https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2018/05/plastic-bag-mariana-trench-pollution-science-spd/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">plastic</a>&nbsp;there.</li><li><a href="https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2017-06-27/how-did-uluru-and-kata-tjuta-form/8572068" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Uluru</a>&nbsp;is a&nbsp;<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/11/01/some-aborigines-say-to-disturb-uluru-is-a-curse-australia-says-climbing-it-will-soon-be-crime/?utm_term=.744a8ed79b3d" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sacred place for Aborigines</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.australiangeographic.com.au/blogs/on-this-day/2013/11/on-this-day-uluru-given-its-aboriginal-name/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Australia reverted to officially</a>&nbsp;using this name in 2002.</li><li><a href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/evolution-the-self/201401/five-biggest-problems-revenge-and-its-best-remedies" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Revenge is stupid</a>.</li><li>Jen loves that scene where&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/jqIBGEcKhGs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Captain America beats the shit out of everyone in the elevato</a>r.</li><li>In case you need help finding&nbsp;<a href="https://couplenamegenerator.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shipper Names</a>.</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/BsqvjTvlqfn/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What Would Allixta Do</a>&nbsp;Button.</li><li>The story of&nbsp;<a href="https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Supergirl_Origins" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Supergirl</a>.</li><li>Speaking of our Heaving Bosoms friends, It wasn't Melody,&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/Heaving_Bosoms/status/1066925990725607424" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">it was Erin</a>&nbsp;who said she doesn't read epilogues!</li><li><a href="https://www.quotes.net/mquote/89394" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Speed is a romance</a>. Don't at Jen or&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/bandherbooks" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bandherbooks</a>.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2RTM9fd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Player</a>&nbsp;is coming up after our next interstitial!</li><li><a href="https://www.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pre-order Brazen and the Beast</a>, and if you say "Fated Mates" in the notes, Sarah will include a Fated Mates sticker!</li><li><a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2020/7/1/transcript-for-episode-16-was-it-as-good-for-you-as-it-was-for-me-sweet-ruin" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Click here</a>&nbsp;for the transcript of this episode.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/27/16-sweet-ruin </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/27/16-sweet-ruin]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5d155bf9a8d2da0001db7872</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 03 Jul 2019 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/a712cd80-19a0-45d1-b65d-1ad2642ff8e1/fated-mates-sweet-ruin-final.mp3" length="118295931" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:56:19</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>33</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>33</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><itunes:summary>IT’S HAPPENNNINNNGGGGG! Sweet Ruin, Sarah’s favorite book in the IAD series, is finally here and she is BEYOND EXCITED to talk about her favorite Kresley hero and the magnificent, perfect heroine who refuses to back down from their fated matehood. Listen as Jen and Sarah discuss Nix as Warrior Queen, make important demands of fan fiction writers in the IAD universe, and generally discuss why this book is one of the best of the series, without question. Block off some time and be sure to use the bathroom before you start, because this one clocks in at two hours (and we’ve already realized we forgot to talk about a few things — so prepare for updates in future episodes!)</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/a3a504f7-36e5-4967-a1ca-265738389619/index.html" type="text/html"/><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-a712cd80-19a0-45d1-b65d-1ad2642ff8e1.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>15.5: Epistolary Romances</title><itunes:title>Epistolary Romances</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Love letters are the best because they’re personal and honest and raw and beautiful, and this week—by request—we’re talking about all the different ways romance tells epistolary love stories! Leave us your own version of a love note in comments! </p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review.&nbsp;</p><p>Next week, IT IS HAPPENNNINNNGGGGG! We’ll be talking about <em>Sweet Ruin</em>, Sarah’s favorite book in the IAD series, and she is BEYOND EXCITED to talk about her favorite Kresley hero and the magnificent, perfect heroine who refuses to back down from their fated matehood. Block off some time, as we can’t guarantee this will be anything near a normal length episode! Read <em>Sweet Ruin </em> at&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2InOHz3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/sweet-ruin-kresley-cole/1121860685" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/sweet-ruin/id991802498?mt=11&amp;app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/sweet-ruin-2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or&nbsp;<a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781451649987" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local Indie</a>. Also, we promise you won’t be disappointed <a href="https://amzn.to/2XmTc5d" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">by the audio</a> of this one!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>It was @jenalice1 who&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/jenalice1/status/1139278778767740934" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">requested an epistolary interstitial</a>.</li><li>"That INXS song" that played in the universe when Sarah met her husband was&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyZU4iNRdsM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Never Tear Us Apart</em></a>.</li><li>Sarah didn't like the movie&nbsp;<a href="https://www.avclub.com/mystery-men-clumsily-spoofed-superhero-movies-before-th-1827101621" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mystery Men</a>. (Jen did.)</li><li>Text messaging has come a long way since ICQ, but it looks like there are&nbsp;<a href="https://medium.com/@Dimitryophoto/icq-is-back-and-there-are-11-things-you-should-know-about-it-b993dddfc234" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ICQ nostalgia apps</a>&nbsp;in case you miss it.</li><li>We muddled through our Kristen Callihan favorites for a while: The one where&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2Lgtqta" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">they fuck in the library</a>, the one&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2Yb3DWH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with the virgin NFL player with the piercing</a>, and the one&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2X3wZd7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with Scottie</a>.</li><li>When Sarah said "<a href="https://youtu.be/pl4wh4TlG_8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mr and Mrs Smith</a>&nbsp;but make it gay," Jen was thinking of&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2RwsO3F" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Spies Who Loved Her</a>&nbsp;series by&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/katrinajax" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Katrina Jackson</a>&nbsp;but couldn't remember them.</li><li><a href="https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/salt-2010" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Salt</a>&nbsp;with Angelina Jolie.</li><li>Archie was a non-cool name that is&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/pop-culture-news/meghan-markle-prince-harry-share-photo-son-archie-n1018016" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">experiencing</a>&nbsp;a&nbsp;<a href="https://riverdale.fandom.com/wiki/Archie_Andrews" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">resurgence</a>.</li><li>when Jen said Not if I Save You First was "An RWA book," she meant it was a&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenRitas/status/1119046285212909568" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">RITA finalist</a>.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atonement_(novel)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Atonement</a>, fuck that book.</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_War" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Crimea</a>?&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleonic_Wars" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Napoleonic Wars</a>.</li><li>A still funny&nbsp;<a href="https://wcs.smartdraw.com/working-smarter/img/tcb-68259.png?bn=1510011144" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">New Yorker cartoon about Power Point</a>.</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2IMguJX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vixen and the Vet</a>&nbsp;(not that kind of Vet) has extensive heroine-groveling.</li><li>The problem of how we should&nbsp;<a href="http://www.digitalpreservation.gov/personalarchiving/email.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">archive our personal electronic communication</a>&nbsp;is soemthing people think about.</li><li>Multimedia apps for&nbsp;<a href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/the-waste-land/id427434046" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Waste Land</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/books/booksblog/2014/jun/11/ulysses-app-wrestle-with-joyce" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ulysses.</a></li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrano_de_Bergerac" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cyrano</a>&nbsp;story is well-entrenched that it has become a trope.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/kateclayborn/status/1101860550768758784" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A perfect tweet</a>&nbsp;from Kate Clayborn.</li><li><a href="https://www.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pre-order Brazen and the Beast from Word in Brooklyn,</a>&nbsp;mention Fated Mates at checkout, and you'll get a bunch of cool swag.</li><li>Kelly's business is&nbsp;<a href="https://www.resistancebuttons.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Resistance Buttons</a>, so check that out.</li><li><a href="https://store.usps.com/store/product/buy-stamps/dragons-S_477504" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Buy fun stamps</a>, including&nbsp;<a href="https://store.usps.com/store/product/buy-stamps/1969-first-moon-landing-S_479104" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">these</a>&nbsp;that Jen pre-ordered.</li><li>Write some&nbsp;<a href="https://postcardstovoters.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">postcards to voters</a>.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1143163076759474176" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sweet Ruin</a>&nbsp;is coming.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/24/155-epistolary-romances </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love letters are the best because they’re personal and honest and raw and beautiful, and this week—by request—we’re talking about all the different ways romance tells epistolary love stories! Leave us your own version of a love note in comments! </p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review.&nbsp;</p><p>Next week, IT IS HAPPENNNINNNGGGGG! We’ll be talking about <em>Sweet Ruin</em>, Sarah’s favorite book in the IAD series, and she is BEYOND EXCITED to talk about her favorite Kresley hero and the magnificent, perfect heroine who refuses to back down from their fated matehood. Block off some time, as we can’t guarantee this will be anything near a normal length episode! Read <em>Sweet Ruin </em> at&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2InOHz3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/sweet-ruin-kresley-cole/1121860685" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/sweet-ruin/id991802498?mt=11&amp;app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/sweet-ruin-2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or&nbsp;<a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781451649987" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local Indie</a>. Also, we promise you won’t be disappointed <a href="https://amzn.to/2XmTc5d" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">by the audio</a> of this one!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>It was @jenalice1 who&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/jenalice1/status/1139278778767740934" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">requested an epistolary interstitial</a>.</li><li>"That INXS song" that played in the universe when Sarah met her husband was&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyZU4iNRdsM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Never Tear Us Apart</em></a>.</li><li>Sarah didn't like the movie&nbsp;<a href="https://www.avclub.com/mystery-men-clumsily-spoofed-superhero-movies-before-th-1827101621" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mystery Men</a>. (Jen did.)</li><li>Text messaging has come a long way since ICQ, but it looks like there are&nbsp;<a href="https://medium.com/@Dimitryophoto/icq-is-back-and-there-are-11-things-you-should-know-about-it-b993dddfc234" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ICQ nostalgia apps</a>&nbsp;in case you miss it.</li><li>We muddled through our Kristen Callihan favorites for a while: The one where&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2Lgtqta" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">they fuck in the library</a>, the one&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2Yb3DWH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with the virgin NFL player with the piercing</a>, and the one&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2X3wZd7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with Scottie</a>.</li><li>When Sarah said "<a href="https://youtu.be/pl4wh4TlG_8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mr and Mrs Smith</a>&nbsp;but make it gay," Jen was thinking of&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2RwsO3F" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Spies Who Loved Her</a>&nbsp;series by&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/katrinajax" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Katrina Jackson</a>&nbsp;but couldn't remember them.</li><li><a href="https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/salt-2010" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Salt</a>&nbsp;with Angelina Jolie.</li><li>Archie was a non-cool name that is&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/pop-culture-news/meghan-markle-prince-harry-share-photo-son-archie-n1018016" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">experiencing</a>&nbsp;a&nbsp;<a href="https://riverdale.fandom.com/wiki/Archie_Andrews" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">resurgence</a>.</li><li>when Jen said Not if I Save You First was "An RWA book," she meant it was a&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenRitas/status/1119046285212909568" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">RITA finalist</a>.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atonement_(novel)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Atonement</a>, fuck that book.</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_War" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Crimea</a>?&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleonic_Wars" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Napoleonic Wars</a>.</li><li>A still funny&nbsp;<a href="https://wcs.smartdraw.com/working-smarter/img/tcb-68259.png?bn=1510011144" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">New Yorker cartoon about Power Point</a>.</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2IMguJX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vixen and the Vet</a>&nbsp;(not that kind of Vet) has extensive heroine-groveling.</li><li>The problem of how we should&nbsp;<a href="http://www.digitalpreservation.gov/personalarchiving/email.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">archive our personal electronic communication</a>&nbsp;is soemthing people think about.</li><li>Multimedia apps for&nbsp;<a href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/the-waste-land/id427434046" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Waste Land</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/books/booksblog/2014/jun/11/ulysses-app-wrestle-with-joyce" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ulysses.</a></li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrano_de_Bergerac" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cyrano</a>&nbsp;story is well-entrenched that it has become a trope.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/kateclayborn/status/1101860550768758784" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A perfect tweet</a>&nbsp;from Kate Clayborn.</li><li><a href="https://www.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pre-order Brazen and the Beast from Word in Brooklyn,</a>&nbsp;mention Fated Mates at checkout, and you'll get a bunch of cool swag.</li><li>Kelly's business is&nbsp;<a href="https://www.resistancebuttons.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Resistance Buttons</a>, so check that out.</li><li><a href="https://store.usps.com/store/product/buy-stamps/dragons-S_477504" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Buy fun stamps</a>, including&nbsp;<a href="https://store.usps.com/store/product/buy-stamps/1969-first-moon-landing-S_479104" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">these</a>&nbsp;that Jen pre-ordered.</li><li>Write some&nbsp;<a href="https://postcardstovoters.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">postcards to voters</a>.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1143163076759474176" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sweet Ruin</a>&nbsp;is coming.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/24/155-epistolary-romances </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/24/155-epistolary-romances]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5d111d472636f60001f17c02</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 26 Jun 2019 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/a1a05f3b-e23d-4594-b4f8-7628b0ca9680/fated-mates-epistolary-romances-final.mp3" length="66413014" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:04:10</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>32</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>32</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Love letters are the best because they’re personal and honest and raw and beautiful, and this week—by request—we’re talking about all the different ways romance tells epistolary love stories! Leave us your own version of a love note in comments!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-a1a05f3b-e23d-4594-b4f8-7628b0ca9680.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>15: How Is She Even Able To Walk? - The Master</title><itunes:title>How Is She Even Able To Walk? - The Master</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We’re back with The Game Makers Series this week — talking with the wonderful Sophie Jordan about her favorite book in the series, The Master! Starring Maxim Sevastyan and the first-time escort who lays him flat (in all ways), This one has all the insane sex stuff of the last Game Makers book, now with birth control insanity, and a sweet nod to holiday traditions…and a trip into the Internet to look at chastity belts.</p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review.&nbsp;</p><p>In two weeks, IT IS HAPPENNNINNNGGGGG! We have reached Sweet Ruin, Sarah’s favorite book in the IAD series, and she is BEYOND EXCITED to talk about her favorite Kresley hero and the magnificent, perfect heroine who refuses to back down from their fated matehood. Block off some time, as we can’t guarantee this will be anything near a normal length episode! Read <em>Sweet Ruin </em> at&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2InOHz3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/sweet-ruin-kresley-cole/1121860685" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/sweet-ruin/id991802498?mt=11&amp;app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/sweet-ruin-2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or&nbsp;<a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781451649987" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local Indie</a>. Also, we promise you won’t be disappointed <a href="https://amzn.to/2XmTc5d" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">by the audio</a> of this one!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome&nbsp;<a href="https://www.sophiejordan.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sophie Jordan</a>!</li><li>You should listen to the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/the-wicked-wallflowers-club/e/55480805" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wicked Wallflowers podcast</a>&nbsp;where Sophie talks about her Game Makers Series theory.</li><li>The politics of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/Swimming/comments/22g3el/lane_sharing_etiquette_am_i_the_jerk/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lane-sharing at the pool</a>&nbsp;are more complicated then you'd think!</li><li>In case you don't know what&nbsp;<a href="https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pendejo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">pendejo</a>&nbsp;means.</li><li>ICYMI: one of our first interstitials was about&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/20/escort-romances-interstitial-2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the escort trope</a>.</li><li>I guess we did learn&nbsp;<a href="https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/news/grey-8-things-we-learn-in-the-new-fifty-shades-of-grey-book-told-through-christian-greys-eyes-10327932.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">more about what Christian was thinking</a>&nbsp;when she fell over the threshold in that 50 shades sequel, Grey.</li><li>Is there really&nbsp;<a href="https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/teens/ask-experts/how-long-does-it-take-the-shot-to-start-working" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a morning after shot</a>?</li><li><a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/reviews/the-master-by-kresley-cole/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Smart Bitches gave The Master a D!</a>&nbsp;/clutches pearls</li><li>If you haven't read&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2KpbFbc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lord of Scoundrels</a>, you should.</li><li>I decide who is a&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/z9ganTVVC6A" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pretty Woman</a>&nbsp;quote. Of course.</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/tI4RvWvgulc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Robin Hood Men in Tights chastity belt</a>, or iron underwear as it's more commonly known.</li><li>Sophie's upcoming book is&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2Xofm76" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Duke's Stolen Bride</a>.</li><li>You can preorder signed copies of Brazen and the Beast from&nbsp;<a href="https://www.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Word in Brooklyn</a>. You can download&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2KoGL30" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wicked and the Wallflower</a>&nbsp;for $2 all of June.</li><li>"That great Kerrigan Byrne Newgate one" is called&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2WJNgPn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Highwayman</a>.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2Xd8SrV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bitch Planet</a>&nbsp;is an&nbsp;<a href="https://www.themarysue.com/review-bitch-planet-1/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">amazing comic</a>.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2WOcpIA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sweet Ruin</a>&nbsp;is coming!</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/17/15-the-master </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We’re back with The Game Makers Series this week — talking with the wonderful Sophie Jordan about her favorite book in the series, The Master! Starring Maxim Sevastyan and the first-time escort who lays him flat (in all ways), This one has all the insane sex stuff of the last Game Makers book, now with birth control insanity, and a sweet nod to holiday traditions…and a trip into the Internet to look at chastity belts.</p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review.&nbsp;</p><p>In two weeks, IT IS HAPPENNNINNNGGGGG! We have reached Sweet Ruin, Sarah’s favorite book in the IAD series, and she is BEYOND EXCITED to talk about her favorite Kresley hero and the magnificent, perfect heroine who refuses to back down from their fated matehood. Block off some time, as we can’t guarantee this will be anything near a normal length episode! Read <em>Sweet Ruin </em> at&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2InOHz3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/sweet-ruin-kresley-cole/1121860685" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/sweet-ruin/id991802498?mt=11&amp;app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/sweet-ruin-2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or&nbsp;<a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781451649987" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local Indie</a>. Also, we promise you won’t be disappointed <a href="https://amzn.to/2XmTc5d" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">by the audio</a> of this one!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome&nbsp;<a href="https://www.sophiejordan.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sophie Jordan</a>!</li><li>You should listen to the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/the-wicked-wallflowers-club/e/55480805" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wicked Wallflowers podcast</a>&nbsp;where Sophie talks about her Game Makers Series theory.</li><li>The politics of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/Swimming/comments/22g3el/lane_sharing_etiquette_am_i_the_jerk/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lane-sharing at the pool</a>&nbsp;are more complicated then you'd think!</li><li>In case you don't know what&nbsp;<a href="https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pendejo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">pendejo</a>&nbsp;means.</li><li>ICYMI: one of our first interstitials was about&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/20/escort-romances-interstitial-2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the escort trope</a>.</li><li>I guess we did learn&nbsp;<a href="https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/news/grey-8-things-we-learn-in-the-new-fifty-shades-of-grey-book-told-through-christian-greys-eyes-10327932.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">more about what Christian was thinking</a>&nbsp;when she fell over the threshold in that 50 shades sequel, Grey.</li><li>Is there really&nbsp;<a href="https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/teens/ask-experts/how-long-does-it-take-the-shot-to-start-working" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a morning after shot</a>?</li><li><a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/reviews/the-master-by-kresley-cole/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Smart Bitches gave The Master a D!</a>&nbsp;/clutches pearls</li><li>If you haven't read&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2KpbFbc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lord of Scoundrels</a>, you should.</li><li>I decide who is a&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/z9ganTVVC6A" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pretty Woman</a>&nbsp;quote. Of course.</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/tI4RvWvgulc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Robin Hood Men in Tights chastity belt</a>, or iron underwear as it's more commonly known.</li><li>Sophie's upcoming book is&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2Xofm76" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Duke's Stolen Bride</a>.</li><li>You can preorder signed copies of Brazen and the Beast from&nbsp;<a href="https://www.wordbookstores.com/SarahMacLean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Word in Brooklyn</a>. You can download&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2KoGL30" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wicked and the Wallflower</a>&nbsp;for $2 all of June.</li><li>"That great Kerrigan Byrne Newgate one" is called&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2WJNgPn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Highwayman</a>.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2Xd8SrV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bitch Planet</a>&nbsp;is an&nbsp;<a href="https://www.themarysue.com/review-bitch-planet-1/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">amazing comic</a>.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2WOcpIA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sweet Ruin</a>&nbsp;is coming!</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/17/15-the-master </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/17/15-the-master]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5d07aa830c722300016056be</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2019 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/88104593-46b2-461d-9510-6fcba6d01913/fated-mates-the-master-final.mp3" length="69188472" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:08:07</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>31</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>31</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We’re back with The Game Makers Series this week — talking with the wonderful Sophie Jordan about her favorite book in the series, The Master! Starring Maxim Sevastyan and the first-time escort who lays him flat (in all ways), This one has all the insane sex stuff of the last Game Makers book, now with birth control insanity, and a sweet nod to holiday traditions…and a trip into the Internet to look at chastity belts.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-88104593-46b2-461d-9510-6fcba6d01913.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>14.5: Space Romance - There Are No Wallflowers in Space!</title><itunes:title>Romance in Space!</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Well, it was destined to happen sometime—we’re taking the show intergalactic! This week we’re talking about space romance and why it’s totally. fricken. bananas. Discover the series that brought Jen and Sarah together, hear us talk about prison planets, sex planets, the Muppet Show and more. Series by Grace Goodwin, Emmy Chandler, Robin Lovett &amp; Jessie Mihalik.</p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review.&nbsp;Also — if you have a romance loving friend, please let them know that we don’t just talk about vampires &amp; valkyries, and maybe they’d like us, too? </p><p>We’re back to the Game Makers in two weeks with Jen’s favorite of the three books, The Master, and one of our favorites, Sophie Jordan! Get ready for chastity belts and string bikinis! Read <em>The Master </em>at&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Master-Game-Maker-Book-ebook/dp/B00L01GJBW/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=the+master&amp;qid=1559703424&amp;s=digital-text&amp;sr=1-4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-master-kresley-cole/1119740438" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/book/the-master/id889690120?mt=11&amp;app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-master-29" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or&nbsp;<a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781476797281" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local Indie</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Who knew there was so much to say about The Muppets? We both loved&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/Eul1NlwytF4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pigs in Space</a>, and Sarah mentioned that&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/QUDxhz_jYxc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">General Hospital-style</a>&nbsp;skit.&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/IvnHgKkNKR4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Muppet Show</a>&nbsp;is streaming on YouTube. And they're still making&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/SN0wK-wXqY0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">new ones</a>!</li><li>How many dudes were in Dead Poet's Society? Well, there was&nbsp;<a href="https://theplaylist.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/dead-poets-society.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Robert Sean Leonard</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://i.pinimg.com/originals/83/b6/2e/83b62e1d55a7d4f077e69dd755b2f689.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ethan Hawke</a>. And&nbsp;<a href="https://assets.vogue.com/photos/5891f7cc7edfa70512d68410/master/pass/03-josh-charles-dead-poet-society.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Josh Fucking Charles</a>, of course. And then&nbsp;<a href="https://www.moviemaker.com/wp-content/uploads/deadpoetssociety_650-620x400.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">these other guys</a>.</li><li>Josh Charles and his amazing man hands on The Good Wife,&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/Wdl5Unf02SA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">kissing Alica in an elevator</a>.</li><li>Oh, and Sarah also likes&nbsp;<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/the-cult-of-sports-night" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sports Night</a>&nbsp;even though&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bustle.com/p/aaron-sorkin-just-realized-hollywood-diversity-is-a-big-issue-seriously-47034" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Aaron Sorkin is definitely a problem</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Muppets-Space-Bill-Baretta/dp/B000W4CG60" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Muppets from Space</a>. Omg.</li><li>A few early space romances were&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2Wr5p4t" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sweet Starfire</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2WtgDWe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Warrior's Woman</a>.</li><li>Formative 80's space and sci-fi movies:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Conan-Barbarian-Arnold-Schwarzenegger/dp/B009CG248Y/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2TJRHDGV38PPV&amp;keywords=conan+the+barbarian&amp;qid=1560215031&amp;s=instant-video&amp;sprefix=conan+the+%2Cinstant-video%2C150&amp;sr=1-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Conan the Barbarian</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Back-Future-Michael-J-Fox/dp/B00498XR9U/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=back+to+the+future&amp;qid=1560215058&amp;s=instant-video&amp;sr=1-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Back to the Future</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Hope-Mark-Hamill/dp/B00VN0DLRA/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1VE6G77BAF59S&amp;keywords=star+wars+a+new+hope&amp;qid=1560215075&amp;s=instant-video&amp;sprefix=star+wars%2Cinstant-video%2C150&amp;sr=1-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Star Wars</a>.</li><li>We deserved more than&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/TL7eXSlHEpQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">one kiss</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/7wEHBDO67pE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">real snotty offspring</a>.</li><li>"<a href="https://youtu.be/FaLyasJPyUU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Make is So</a>," says Jean-Luc Picard.</li><li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/questions/1584956-hi-warden-egara-s-second-chance-is" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Warden Egara is giving Grace Goodwin the silent treatment</a>.</li><li><a href="https://sydneylivingmuseums.com.au/stories/why-were-convicts-transported-australia" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Australia</a>&nbsp;was the original prison island.</li><li>You should read&nbsp;<a href="http://www.dukeofdefinition.com/dangerous_game.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Most Dangerous Game</a>. It's an amazing story.</li><li>Robin Lovett is&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/LovettRomance/status/1137739587500085248" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">reading Dark Skye</a>.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2Wt6f0H" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Aurora Blazing</a>&nbsp;doesn't come out until October, but you can&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jessiemihalik.com/book/aurora-blazing/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">read the first chapter here</a>.</li><li><a href="https://compote.slate.com/images/0dbf0025-bb19-455c-a6b9-4f94656f9b7c.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Princess</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bd/7c/f9/bd7cf9fb1d3d25bdeb41e800f0b4c557.png" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">General</a>.</li><li>Jen recommends The Chernobyl&nbsp;<a href="https://www.hbo.com/chernobyl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">miniseries</a>&nbsp;and the&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-chernobyl-podcast/id1459712981" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">podcast</a>. Sarah thought she was joking when she said&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1050810523107958785" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">I should go to twitter and ask for nuclear romances</a>, like I hadn't thought of that already.</li><li>Sarah recommends&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/S0Mb6BgnhS0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Booksmart</a>.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2K93gse" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Master</a>&nbsp;is next, and we'll be joined by&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2K93gse" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sophie Jordan</a>.</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/briannasacks/moon-mars-mars-moon-trump" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Moon is not a fucking part of Mars</a>. My God.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/10/145-romance-in-space-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it was destined to happen sometime—we’re taking the show intergalactic! This week we’re talking about space romance and why it’s totally. fricken. bananas. Discover the series that brought Jen and Sarah together, hear us talk about prison planets, sex planets, the Muppet Show and more. Series by Grace Goodwin, Emmy Chandler, Robin Lovett &amp; Jessie Mihalik.</p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review.&nbsp;Also — if you have a romance loving friend, please let them know that we don’t just talk about vampires &amp; valkyries, and maybe they’d like us, too? </p><p>We’re back to the Game Makers in two weeks with Jen’s favorite of the three books, The Master, and one of our favorites, Sophie Jordan! Get ready for chastity belts and string bikinis! Read <em>The Master </em>at&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Master-Game-Maker-Book-ebook/dp/B00L01GJBW/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=the+master&amp;qid=1559703424&amp;s=digital-text&amp;sr=1-4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-master-kresley-cole/1119740438" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/book/the-master/id889690120?mt=11&amp;app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-master-29" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or&nbsp;<a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781476797281" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local Indie</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Who knew there was so much to say about The Muppets? We both loved&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/Eul1NlwytF4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pigs in Space</a>, and Sarah mentioned that&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/QUDxhz_jYxc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">General Hospital-style</a>&nbsp;skit.&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/IvnHgKkNKR4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Muppet Show</a>&nbsp;is streaming on YouTube. And they're still making&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/SN0wK-wXqY0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">new ones</a>!</li><li>How many dudes were in Dead Poet's Society? Well, there was&nbsp;<a href="https://theplaylist.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/dead-poets-society.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Robert Sean Leonard</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://i.pinimg.com/originals/83/b6/2e/83b62e1d55a7d4f077e69dd755b2f689.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ethan Hawke</a>. And&nbsp;<a href="https://assets.vogue.com/photos/5891f7cc7edfa70512d68410/master/pass/03-josh-charles-dead-poet-society.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Josh Fucking Charles</a>, of course. And then&nbsp;<a href="https://www.moviemaker.com/wp-content/uploads/deadpoetssociety_650-620x400.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">these other guys</a>.</li><li>Josh Charles and his amazing man hands on The Good Wife,&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/Wdl5Unf02SA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">kissing Alica in an elevator</a>.</li><li>Oh, and Sarah also likes&nbsp;<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/the-cult-of-sports-night" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sports Night</a>&nbsp;even though&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bustle.com/p/aaron-sorkin-just-realized-hollywood-diversity-is-a-big-issue-seriously-47034" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Aaron Sorkin is definitely a problem</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Muppets-Space-Bill-Baretta/dp/B000W4CG60" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Muppets from Space</a>. Omg.</li><li>A few early space romances were&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2Wr5p4t" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sweet Starfire</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2WtgDWe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Warrior's Woman</a>.</li><li>Formative 80's space and sci-fi movies:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Conan-Barbarian-Arnold-Schwarzenegger/dp/B009CG248Y/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2TJRHDGV38PPV&amp;keywords=conan+the+barbarian&amp;qid=1560215031&amp;s=instant-video&amp;sprefix=conan+the+%2Cinstant-video%2C150&amp;sr=1-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Conan the Barbarian</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Back-Future-Michael-J-Fox/dp/B00498XR9U/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=back+to+the+future&amp;qid=1560215058&amp;s=instant-video&amp;sr=1-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Back to the Future</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Hope-Mark-Hamill/dp/B00VN0DLRA/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1VE6G77BAF59S&amp;keywords=star+wars+a+new+hope&amp;qid=1560215075&amp;s=instant-video&amp;sprefix=star+wars%2Cinstant-video%2C150&amp;sr=1-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Star Wars</a>.</li><li>We deserved more than&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/TL7eXSlHEpQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">one kiss</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/7wEHBDO67pE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">real snotty offspring</a>.</li><li>"<a href="https://youtu.be/FaLyasJPyUU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Make is So</a>," says Jean-Luc Picard.</li><li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/questions/1584956-hi-warden-egara-s-second-chance-is" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Warden Egara is giving Grace Goodwin the silent treatment</a>.</li><li><a href="https://sydneylivingmuseums.com.au/stories/why-were-convicts-transported-australia" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Australia</a>&nbsp;was the original prison island.</li><li>You should read&nbsp;<a href="http://www.dukeofdefinition.com/dangerous_game.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Most Dangerous Game</a>. It's an amazing story.</li><li>Robin Lovett is&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/LovettRomance/status/1137739587500085248" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">reading Dark Skye</a>.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2Wt6f0H" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Aurora Blazing</a>&nbsp;doesn't come out until October, but you can&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jessiemihalik.com/book/aurora-blazing/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">read the first chapter here</a>.</li><li><a href="https://compote.slate.com/images/0dbf0025-bb19-455c-a6b9-4f94656f9b7c.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Princess</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bd/7c/f9/bd7cf9fb1d3d25bdeb41e800f0b4c557.png" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">General</a>.</li><li>Jen recommends The Chernobyl&nbsp;<a href="https://www.hbo.com/chernobyl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">miniseries</a>&nbsp;and the&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-chernobyl-podcast/id1459712981" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">podcast</a>. Sarah thought she was joking when she said&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1050810523107958785" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">I should go to twitter and ask for nuclear romances</a>, like I hadn't thought of that already.</li><li>Sarah recommends&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/S0Mb6BgnhS0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Booksmart</a>.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2K93gse" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Master</a>&nbsp;is next, and we'll be joined by&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2K93gse" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sophie Jordan</a>.</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/briannasacks/moon-mars-mars-moon-trump" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Moon is not a fucking part of Mars</a>. My God.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/10/145-romance-in-space-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/10/145-romance-in-space-interstitial]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5cfea62e243827000100fab8</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 12 Jun 2019 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/44208568-9431-47ec-bb66-e587cd26d985/fated-mates-in-space-final-reva.mp3" length="66451367" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:03:39</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>30</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>30</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Well, it was destined to happen sometime—we’re taking the show intergalactic! This week we’re talking about space romance and why it’s totally. fricken. bananas. Discover the series that brought Jen and Sarah together, hear us talk about prison planets, sex planets, the Muppet Show and more. Series by Grace Goodwin, Emmy Chandler, Robin Lovett &amp; Jessie Mihalik.</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/b4e068c9-efc5-4355-895e-67cc4b623c9c/index.html" type="text/html"/><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-44208568-9431-47ec-bb66-e587cd26d985.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>14: Thronos Should Get the Hell Over Himself: Dark Skye</title><itunes:title>Thronos Should Get the Hell Over Himself: Dark Skye</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We are back from vacation and Torture Island is back — surprising no one more than us! It’s Dark Skye week, Lanthe &amp; Thronos are doing some weird stuff with holey-sheets, y’all. We talk about religion and romance, the work this book does in the larger series, and—as always—patriarchy. Friend of the pod, SS Jaxon joins us, too! </p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review.&nbsp;</p><p>We’ve got an interstitial lined up for next week, then we’re back to the Game Makers in two weeks with Jen’s favorite of the three books, The Master, and one of our favorites, Sophie Jordan! Get ready for chastity belts and string bikinis! Read <em>The Master </em>at&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Master-Game-Maker-Book-ebook/dp/B00L01GJBW/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=the+master&amp;qid=1559703424&amp;s=digital-text&amp;sr=1-4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-master-kresley-cole/1119740438" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/book/the-master/id889690120?mt=11&amp;app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-master-29" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or&nbsp;<a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781476797281" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local Indie</a>.</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Thronos, not <a href="https://www.marvel.com/characters/thanos" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Thanos</a>.</li><li>Childhood best friends to lovers to enemies to lovers is one of Sarah's favorite tropes. <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Rogue-Any-Other-Name-Scoundrels/dp/0062068520" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">She wrote one once</a>, and it's only $1.99 in Kindle!</li><li>We mention a lot of adventure movies in this episode, including <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groundhog_Day_(film)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Groundhog Day</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raiders_of_the_Lost_Ark" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Raiders of the Lost Ark</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Bandits" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Time Bandits</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labyrinth_(1986_film)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Labrynth</a>, and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Matrix_(franchise)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Matrix</a>.</li><li>We also mention some of classic literature that we think Kresley might be alluding to in Dark Skye, including: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradise_Lost" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Paradise Lost</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inferno_(Dante)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Inferno</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odyssey" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Odyssey</a>, <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781631582752" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alice in Wonderland</a>, and many Bibilical stories including <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonah" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jonah and the Whale</a>.</li><li>At one point Jen calls it <a href="https://www.nownovel.com/blog/difference-fantasy-science-fiction/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"classic sci-fi" when she really meant to say fantasy</a>. Ooops!</li><li>In case you're planning to read <a href="https://amzn.to/2HVfe6M" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ulysses</a>, make sure you have a copy of <a href="https://amzn.to/2EQQbQk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ulysses Annotated</a>. But I guess now <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/17/books/review/cant-get-through-ulysses-digital-help-is-on-the-way.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">there's an app for that</a>.</li><li>All about <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cilice" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">hairshirts</a>. Ouch.</li><li>If you want more about what it would be like on Feverus, maybe check out Robin Lovett's <a href="https://amzn.to/2Wbfl1T" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sex</a><a href="https://amzn.to/2EPIERS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">planet</a><a href="https://amzn.to/2JZ0INx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">series</a>.</li><li>Welcome <a href="https://twitter.com/BooksbySSJaxon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">S.S. Jaxon</a>! Here's her <a href="https://twitter.com/BooksbySSJaxon/status/1025093513673760768" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">vagina thread</a> and her one about <a href="https://twitter.com/BooksbySSJaxon/status/1021216640115982336" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the IAD cult</a>.</li><li>Are there any people having <a href="https://www.esquire.com/lifestyle/sex/a23230/hole-in-sheet-sex-0613/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sex with a sheet with a hole</a> in it?</li><li>The tale of <a href="https://www.greekmythology.com/Myths/Mortals/Icarus/icarus.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Icarus</a>. If you haven't read it yet, Daedalus makes an appearance in the novel <a href="https://amzn.to/2KvBK7F" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Circe by Madeline Miller</a>, which Jen highly recommends.</li><li>More about <a href="https://www.marvel.com/characters/thanos" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bandherbooks</a> love for <a href="https://twitter.com/bandherbooks/status/1115979505758240768" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fainting couches</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/bandherbooks/status/1134136338255679489" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the space chaise</a>.</li><li>Munro is in the wind. Someone write us some fanfic.</li><li>Our next episode will be <a href="https://amzn.to/2JZBqP5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Master</a>, the second book in The Game Maker series.</li><li><a href="https://www.gq.com/story/the-legend-of-keanu-reeves" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Keanu Reeves</a> is very swoonworthy. Have you seen <a href="https://youtu.be/iHBcWHY9lN4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Always Be My Maybe</a> yet? We have very different opinions about it, but agree that Keanu is the best.</li></ul><br/><h2>Lost Limb Count</h2><p><strong>Arms and Hands (8)</strong></p><ol><li><em>Conrad</em>&nbsp;cuts off his own hand with a rusty axe so he escape the "witched" chains his brothers locked him in. (<em>Dark Needs at Night's Edge</em>)</li><li><em>Cadeon</em>&nbsp;has both of his hands burned off in the same scene where he loses an eye. There's description of what Cade's baby fingers look like as they are re-growing. It's...kinda gross. (<em>Dark Desires After Dusk</em>)</li><li><em>Sebastian</em>&nbsp;pulverizes most of his right arm during the Hie. He regenerates. (<em>No Rest For the Wicked</em>)</li><li><em>Lucia</em>&nbsp;peels all the skin off from her hand in order to free herself from some handcuffs. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li><li>In order to retrieve the ring from&nbsp;<em>La Dorada</em>&nbsp;, Lothaire cuts off her finger. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li><li><em>Lanthe</em>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<em>Carrow</em>&nbsp;cut off Fegley's hand so they can use his thumb to unlock their torques. He's later killed. (<em>Demon from the Dark</em>)</li><li>After receiving Lothaire's heart in a box,&nbsp;<em>Ellie</em>&nbsp;cuts off her middle finger and sends it to him. (Lothaire)</li><li><em>Chloe</em>'s shoulder is dislocated in the escape from her auction (MacRieve).</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Chest and Torso (7)</strong></p><ol><li>Omort severs&nbsp;<em>Rydstrom's</em>&nbsp;spine and punches through his torso in a fight. Sabine saves him and enlists Hag to help heal him. (<em>Kiss of a Demon King</em>)</li><li><em>Lucia</em>'s neck is broken. She regenerates. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li><li>On Torture Island,&nbsp;<em>Regin</em>,</li><li><em>MacRieve</em>,</li><li>and&nbsp;<em>Brandr</em>&nbsp;are vivisected. It's pretty terrible. (<em>Dreams of a Dark Warrior</em>)</li><li><em>Declan</em>'s skin is peeled off by the Neoptera as a child. (<em>Dreams of a Dark Warrior</em>)</li><li>Lothaire rips out his own heart and sends it to Ellie in a box. (<em>Lothaire</em>)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Head, Face, and Eyes (6)</strong></p><ol><li><em>Bowen</em>&nbsp;loses an eye and most of his forehead during the Hie. Mariketa has cursed him and he can't heal until he returns to her. (<em>Wicked Deeds on a Winter's Night</em>)</li><li><em>Cadeon</em>&nbsp;loses an eye and part of his forehead and hair when fighting. It all regenerates. (<em>Dark Desires After Dusk</em>)</li><li>During a rugby match,&nbsp;<em>Garreth</em>&nbsp;has his teeth knocked out and swallows them. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li><li><em>Lothaire</em>&nbsp;kicks out La Dorada's remaining eye and throws her over a cliff. (<em>Dreams of a Dark Warrior</em>)</li><li>In the Bloodroot Forest, the tree grows over&nbsp;<em>Lothaire</em>'s lips and tongue. (<em>Lothaire</em>)</li><li>After she gains her immortality,&nbsp;<em>Chloe</em>'s hair grows, but she cuts it off every morning. (MacRieve)</li><li><em>Lanthe</em>&nbsp;agrees to have her tongue cut out to save herself and Thronos, knowing she can still use the power of persuasion telepathically. (<em>Dark Skye</em>)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Horns (2)</strong></p><ol><li><em>Cadeon</em>&nbsp;cuts off his own horns to prove to Holly that he is worthy of being her mate. She tells him to let them grow back (<em>Dark Desires After Dusk</em>)</li><li><em>Malkolm</em>&nbsp;is captured by his enemies in Oblivion and taken to the city of Ash. The publicly cut off his horns and then intend to kill...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are back from vacation and Torture Island is back — surprising no one more than us! It’s Dark Skye week, Lanthe &amp; Thronos are doing some weird stuff with holey-sheets, y’all. We talk about religion and romance, the work this book does in the larger series, and—as always—patriarchy. Friend of the pod, SS Jaxon joins us, too! </p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review.&nbsp;</p><p>We’ve got an interstitial lined up for next week, then we’re back to the Game Makers in two weeks with Jen’s favorite of the three books, The Master, and one of our favorites, Sophie Jordan! Get ready for chastity belts and string bikinis! Read <em>The Master </em>at&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Master-Game-Maker-Book-ebook/dp/B00L01GJBW/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=the+master&amp;qid=1559703424&amp;s=digital-text&amp;sr=1-4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-master-kresley-cole/1119740438" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/book/the-master/id889690120?mt=11&amp;app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-master-29" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or&nbsp;<a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781476797281" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local Indie</a>.</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><ul><li>Thronos, not <a href="https://www.marvel.com/characters/thanos" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Thanos</a>.</li><li>Childhood best friends to lovers to enemies to lovers is one of Sarah's favorite tropes. <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Rogue-Any-Other-Name-Scoundrels/dp/0062068520" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">She wrote one once</a>, and it's only $1.99 in Kindle!</li><li>We mention a lot of adventure movies in this episode, including <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groundhog_Day_(film)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Groundhog Day</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raiders_of_the_Lost_Ark" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Raiders of the Lost Ark</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Bandits" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Time Bandits</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labyrinth_(1986_film)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Labrynth</a>, and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Matrix_(franchise)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Matrix</a>.</li><li>We also mention some of classic literature that we think Kresley might be alluding to in Dark Skye, including: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradise_Lost" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Paradise Lost</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inferno_(Dante)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Inferno</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odyssey" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Odyssey</a>, <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781631582752" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alice in Wonderland</a>, and many Bibilical stories including <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonah" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jonah and the Whale</a>.</li><li>At one point Jen calls it <a href="https://www.nownovel.com/blog/difference-fantasy-science-fiction/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"classic sci-fi" when she really meant to say fantasy</a>. Ooops!</li><li>In case you're planning to read <a href="https://amzn.to/2HVfe6M" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ulysses</a>, make sure you have a copy of <a href="https://amzn.to/2EQQbQk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ulysses Annotated</a>. But I guess now <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/17/books/review/cant-get-through-ulysses-digital-help-is-on-the-way.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">there's an app for that</a>.</li><li>All about <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cilice" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">hairshirts</a>. Ouch.</li><li>If you want more about what it would be like on Feverus, maybe check out Robin Lovett's <a href="https://amzn.to/2Wbfl1T" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sex</a><a href="https://amzn.to/2EPIERS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">planet</a><a href="https://amzn.to/2JZ0INx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">series</a>.</li><li>Welcome <a href="https://twitter.com/BooksbySSJaxon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">S.S. Jaxon</a>! Here's her <a href="https://twitter.com/BooksbySSJaxon/status/1025093513673760768" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">vagina thread</a> and her one about <a href="https://twitter.com/BooksbySSJaxon/status/1021216640115982336" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the IAD cult</a>.</li><li>Are there any people having <a href="https://www.esquire.com/lifestyle/sex/a23230/hole-in-sheet-sex-0613/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sex with a sheet with a hole</a> in it?</li><li>The tale of <a href="https://www.greekmythology.com/Myths/Mortals/Icarus/icarus.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Icarus</a>. If you haven't read it yet, Daedalus makes an appearance in the novel <a href="https://amzn.to/2KvBK7F" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Circe by Madeline Miller</a>, which Jen highly recommends.</li><li>More about <a href="https://www.marvel.com/characters/thanos" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bandherbooks</a> love for <a href="https://twitter.com/bandherbooks/status/1115979505758240768" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fainting couches</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/bandherbooks/status/1134136338255679489" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the space chaise</a>.</li><li>Munro is in the wind. Someone write us some fanfic.</li><li>Our next episode will be <a href="https://amzn.to/2JZBqP5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Master</a>, the second book in The Game Maker series.</li><li><a href="https://www.gq.com/story/the-legend-of-keanu-reeves" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Keanu Reeves</a> is very swoonworthy. Have you seen <a href="https://youtu.be/iHBcWHY9lN4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Always Be My Maybe</a> yet? We have very different opinions about it, but agree that Keanu is the best.</li></ul><br/><h2>Lost Limb Count</h2><p><strong>Arms and Hands (8)</strong></p><ol><li><em>Conrad</em>&nbsp;cuts off his own hand with a rusty axe so he escape the "witched" chains his brothers locked him in. (<em>Dark Needs at Night's Edge</em>)</li><li><em>Cadeon</em>&nbsp;has both of his hands burned off in the same scene where he loses an eye. There's description of what Cade's baby fingers look like as they are re-growing. It's...kinda gross. (<em>Dark Desires After Dusk</em>)</li><li><em>Sebastian</em>&nbsp;pulverizes most of his right arm during the Hie. He regenerates. (<em>No Rest For the Wicked</em>)</li><li><em>Lucia</em>&nbsp;peels all the skin off from her hand in order to free herself from some handcuffs. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li><li>In order to retrieve the ring from&nbsp;<em>La Dorada</em>&nbsp;, Lothaire cuts off her finger. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li><li><em>Lanthe</em>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<em>Carrow</em>&nbsp;cut off Fegley's hand so they can use his thumb to unlock their torques. He's later killed. (<em>Demon from the Dark</em>)</li><li>After receiving Lothaire's heart in a box,&nbsp;<em>Ellie</em>&nbsp;cuts off her middle finger and sends it to him. (Lothaire)</li><li><em>Chloe</em>'s shoulder is dislocated in the escape from her auction (MacRieve).</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Chest and Torso (7)</strong></p><ol><li>Omort severs&nbsp;<em>Rydstrom's</em>&nbsp;spine and punches through his torso in a fight. Sabine saves him and enlists Hag to help heal him. (<em>Kiss of a Demon King</em>)</li><li><em>Lucia</em>'s neck is broken. She regenerates. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li><li>On Torture Island,&nbsp;<em>Regin</em>,</li><li><em>MacRieve</em>,</li><li>and&nbsp;<em>Brandr</em>&nbsp;are vivisected. It's pretty terrible. (<em>Dreams of a Dark Warrior</em>)</li><li><em>Declan</em>'s skin is peeled off by the Neoptera as a child. (<em>Dreams of a Dark Warrior</em>)</li><li>Lothaire rips out his own heart and sends it to Ellie in a box. (<em>Lothaire</em>)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Head, Face, and Eyes (6)</strong></p><ol><li><em>Bowen</em>&nbsp;loses an eye and most of his forehead during the Hie. Mariketa has cursed him and he can't heal until he returns to her. (<em>Wicked Deeds on a Winter's Night</em>)</li><li><em>Cadeon</em>&nbsp;loses an eye and part of his forehead and hair when fighting. It all regenerates. (<em>Dark Desires After Dusk</em>)</li><li>During a rugby match,&nbsp;<em>Garreth</em>&nbsp;has his teeth knocked out and swallows them. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li><li><em>Lothaire</em>&nbsp;kicks out La Dorada's remaining eye and throws her over a cliff. (<em>Dreams of a Dark Warrior</em>)</li><li>In the Bloodroot Forest, the tree grows over&nbsp;<em>Lothaire</em>'s lips and tongue. (<em>Lothaire</em>)</li><li>After she gains her immortality,&nbsp;<em>Chloe</em>'s hair grows, but she cuts it off every morning. (MacRieve)</li><li><em>Lanthe</em>&nbsp;agrees to have her tongue cut out to save herself and Thronos, knowing she can still use the power of persuasion telepathically. (<em>Dark Skye</em>)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Horns (2)</strong></p><ol><li><em>Cadeon</em>&nbsp;cuts off his own horns to prove to Holly that he is worthy of being her mate. She tells him to let them grow back (<em>Dark Desires After Dusk</em>)</li><li><em>Malkolm</em>&nbsp;is captured by his enemies in Oblivion and taken to the city of Ash. The publicly cut off his horns and then intend to kill him, but Carrow saves him. (Demon from the Dark)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Legs and Feet (3)</strong></p><ol><li><em>Lachlain</em>&nbsp;tears off his own leg to reach Emma. He regenerates. (<em>A Hunger Like No Other</em>)</li><li><em>Mariketa</em>'s skull is fractured and her leg is torn from her body. She heals herself after Bowen lays on the ground. Ivy grows over her and heals her. (<em>Wicked Deeds on a Winter's Night</em>)</li><li><em>Thronos</em>&nbsp;is chasing Melananthe and loses a foot when a portal closes on it. (<em>Kiss of a Demon King</em>)</li><li>While in Pandamonia,&nbsp;<em>Thronos</em>&nbsp;is trapped in a Groundhog Day like trap, doomed to repeat his worst nightmare over and over again. When he believes that Lanthe is about to die, he repeatedly tears of his legs in order to reach her. He never actually loses a limb, but he was willing, so we're counting it. (<em>Dark Skye</em>)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Beheading as a Romantic Gesture (4)</strong></p><ol><li>The first time Garreth spies&nbsp;<em>Lucia</em>, it's when she shoots an arrow and beheads a kobold. He notices that it's "a fantastical shot" and he's super into it. Later, he helps her pick up the head because he's a real gentleman like that. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li><li>Later in the book, they are under attack from vampires and Lucia asks him to help.&nbsp;<em>Garreth</em>&nbsp;promises to "give her their throats" and beheads two vampires. But she's upset about it because of a previous bad experience with cannibalism. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li><li><em>Malkolm</em>&nbsp;beheads men that attacked Carrow in Oblvion, and he throws them to prove he's a worthy mate. (<em>Demon from the Dark</em>)</li><li><em>Declan</em>&nbsp;fights and beheads several creatures as they escape Torture Island, including squeezing one dude so hard his eyes pop out and then he twists his head off. (<em>Dreams of a Dark Warrior</em>)</li><li>Thronos beheads several foes during fights, which impresses&nbsp;<em>Lanthe</em>; but he also beheads Felix, a sorcerer who once tricked Lanthe and stole her sorcery. (<em>Dark Skye</em>)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Beheading as a Non-Romantic Gesture</strong></p><ol><li>Ellie cuts off&nbsp;<em>Lothaire</em>'s head, leaving a slender 1/8 of an inch left. It was kind of an accident, but he deserved it. (Lothaire)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Maybe?</strong></p><ol><li>Does Garreth's losing his connection with his mortal soul count? (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li><li>When Soroya inhabited&nbsp;<em>Ellie</em>'s body, she subjected her to a full Brazilian wax. Ellie doesn't realize it's happened until she takes control of her body again. (<em>Lothaire</em>)</li></ol><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/4/14-dark-skye </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/6/4/14-dark-skye]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5cf6e24ff9193c00012aa4e7</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 05 Jun 2019 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/4e4affa8-d016-4e67-a6d0-74589ab46b50/darkskye-final-revb.mp3" length="97844208" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:37:45</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>29</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>29</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We are back from vacation and Torture Island is back — surprising no one more than us! It’s Dark Skye week, Lanthe &amp; Thronos are doing some weird stuff with holey-sheets, y’all. We talk about religion and romance, the work this book does in the larger series, and—as always—patriarchy. Friend of the pod, SS Jaxon joins us, too!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-4e4affa8-d016-4e67-a6d0-74589ab46b50.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>13.5: Freewheeling with Sarah and Jen: We’re Big Mad</title><itunes:title>13.5: Freewheeling with Sarah and Jen</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Y’all asked for more rants, and boy do we have some for you this week! Alabama passed a terrible law, Georgia and Ohio are right there with them, and other states are following suit. Jen and Sarah are talking bodily autonomy — contraception, pregnancy, miscarriage, stillbirth, hysterectomy and abortion and how they exist in romance novels. Get your pens ready — we’ve got a library full of books to talk about. </p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review.</p><p>We’re taking a break next week (Happy Memorial Day! Eat a cheeseburger for us!)…but will be back to regular IAD programming in two weeks with <em>Dark Skye</em>. Get ready to have your heart ripped out by these childhood lovers turned enemies turned lovers again! Poor Lanthe has been running from her Vrekener, Thronos since <em>Kiss of the Demon King</em>, and finally she gets her story! Read <em>Dark Skye</em> at <a href="https://amzn.to/2Hj4r5R" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dark-skye-kresley-cole/1117366800?ean=9781451649963#/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/dark-skye/id741335609?mt=11&amp;app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/dark-skye" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781451649956" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local Indie</a>.</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><ul><li>That Victoria Dahl <a href="https://twitter.com/VictoriaDahl/status/1129080591352098816" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tweet about hysteria</a>.</li><li>More about the <a href="https://www.vox.com/2019/5/16/18628002/abortion-ohio-alabama-georgia-law-bill-details" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">forced birth laws sweeping through several states</a>, and <a href="https://www.teenvogue.com/story/where-to-donate-and-how-to-help-keep-abortion-legal" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">where you can donate your money</a> if you're so inclined.</li><li>How <a href="https://rewire.news/article/2019/03/01/women-are-not-the-only-ones-who-get-abortions/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">transgender and gender nonconforming people might be especially endangered</a> from this recent spate of laws.</li><li>Sarah's twitter thread asking <a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1128656468486520832" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">about romances with abortion</a>.</li><li><a href="http://www.gutenberg.org/files/25305/25305-h/25305-h.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fanny Hill</a> and some of the <a href="https://formysir.com/product/erotfh02" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">illustrations</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12807304" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tinctures, tonics, and teas</a>.</li><li>The portrayal of <a href="https://medium.com/@shaynamurphy/on-sex-feminism-and-growing-up-with-fast-times-at-ridgemont-high-716a904b0bb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">abortion in Fast Times at Ridgemont High</a>.</li><li>The <a href="https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/08/23/545289168/abstinence-education-is-ineffective-and-unethical-report-argues" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">perils of abstinence-only education</a>.</li><li>Romance is a powerful tool for <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/20/opinion/sunday/romance-novels-sex-ed.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sex-education</a>, but not all authors view it as <a href="https://www.salon.com/2015/01/31/do_condoms_kill_the_mood_of_a_book_erotica_authors_dont_agree_on_safe_sex_demands/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a responsibility</a>.</li><li><a href="https://bookriot.com/2014/07/09/euphemisms-body-parts-romance-novels-ranking/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Romance euphamisms</a> FTW.</li><li><a href="https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1723C9UJUSQWrQqWwT0uDIL_u7jhutIs6?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Screenshots</a> from the scene Sarah referenced in Jane Feather's Vixen.</li><li>All about <a href="https://www.cdc.gov/reproductivehealth/contraception/unintendedpregnancy/pdf/Contraceptive_methods_508.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the efficacy of birth control</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/12/vsbe-condoms/382245/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">French Letters</a> had to soak for two hours (at least)...oh! And we forgot the best (ACTUAL WORST) part: They were <em>reusable</em>. --scream emoji--</li><li>Sarah says we should all watch the TV show <a href="https://www.hulu.com/series/harlots-18edbd1f-3e9f-46a0-8dc4-02ff7b1eef63?&amp;cmp=7735&amp;utm_source=google&amp;utm_medium=SEM&amp;utm_campaign=CM%20Search%20Harlots&amp;utm_term=harlots%20tv%20show&amp;ds_rl=1251123&amp;ds_rl=1251123&amp;gclid=EAIaIQobChMItJ3TkLCo4gIVkI-zCh0FrAIqEAAYASAAEgINo_D_BwE&amp;gclsrc=aw.ds" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Harlots</a>, and not just because it shows <a href="https://allthatsinteresting.com/history-of-condoms" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">French letters</a>.</li><li>"<a href="https://youtu.be/iX3kxAA2L4Q" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">220/221 whatever it takes</a>," is a quote from Mr. Mom. Actually, we talked about a lot of 80s movies on today's episode, including <a href="https://youtu.be/d4ftmOI5NnI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Princess Bride</a> and <a href="https://youtu.be/y4Eo2_YMZtE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">When Harry Met Sally</a>. But we didn't mention <a href="https://www.huffpost.com/entry/dirty-dancing-writer-on-why-she-integrated-illegal-abortion-into-a-love-story_n_59a81364e4b010ca289ab177" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dirty Dancing</a> which has a botched back alley abortion. We meant to...but this is what happens when you don't take good notes before you rant.</li><li>This <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aL4dL9mUXGTp0i868AE5YYMIlELwwQ0U/view?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2011 paper about condoms and birth control in romance</a> is VERY INTERESTING.</li><li>A link to <a href="https://twitter.com/DreamingReviews/status/1080878158424010753" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Twitter conversation</a> about <a href="http://www.whatisprep.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">PrEP</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/birth-control/withdrawal-pull-out-method/how-effective-is-withdrawal-method-pulling-out" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pulling out</a> is weirdly more effective than you'd think for preventing pregnancy, but not at all effective for preventing STIs.</li><li>All about <a href="https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/morning-after-pill-emergency-contraception/whats-plan-b-morning-after-pill" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Plan B</a>.</li><li>The <a href="https://www.bgsu.edu/library/pcl.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pop Culture Library at Bowling Green University</a> is a place both Jen and Sarah would like to visit. <a href="https://twitter.com/stegan" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Librarian Steve Ammidown</a> is the 2019 RWA Librarian of the Year.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/kellyfaircloth" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kelly Faircloth</a> writes great articles about romance for Jezebel.</li><li><a href="https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/health-and-wellness/endometriosis" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Endometriosis</a> deserves more attention than it gets.</li><li>What it means to be "<a href="https://youtu.be/TKOKD69jUA0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">childless by choice</a>."</li><li>Jen's post about <a href="http://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2018/02/lets-talk-miscarriages-in-romance.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">miscarriage in romance</a>, and some statistics about <a href="https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/pregnancy/miscarriage" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">how often miscarriages</a> happen.</li><li><a href="https://www.guttmacher.org/news-release/2017/abortion-common-experience-us-women-despite-dramatic-declines-rates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">25% of American women</a> have had an abortion.</li><li>Sweet Liar is the only romance that Sarah can think of that references a <a href="https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/birth-control/vasectomy/how-do-i-get-vasectomy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">vasectomy</a>--please tell us if you've got other examples?</li><li>The Jezebel article wondering <a href="https://jezebel.com/how-many-more-stories-do-women-need-to-tell-1834811782" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">how many more abortion stories</a> we have to share.</li><li>If you're on FB, check out Sarah's <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/osrbc/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">OSRBC</a> (Old School Romance Book club).</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Y’all asked for more rants, and boy do we have some for you this week! Alabama passed a terrible law, Georgia and Ohio are right there with them, and other states are following suit. Jen and Sarah are talking bodily autonomy — contraception, pregnancy, miscarriage, stillbirth, hysterectomy and abortion and how they exist in romance novels. Get your pens ready — we’ve got a library full of books to talk about. </p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review.</p><p>We’re taking a break next week (Happy Memorial Day! Eat a cheeseburger for us!)…but will be back to regular IAD programming in two weeks with <em>Dark Skye</em>. Get ready to have your heart ripped out by these childhood lovers turned enemies turned lovers again! Poor Lanthe has been running from her Vrekener, Thronos since <em>Kiss of the Demon King</em>, and finally she gets her story! Read <em>Dark Skye</em> at <a href="https://amzn.to/2Hj4r5R" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dark-skye-kresley-cole/1117366800?ean=9781451649963#/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/dark-skye/id741335609?mt=11&amp;app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/dark-skye" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781451649956" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local Indie</a>.</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><ul><li>That Victoria Dahl <a href="https://twitter.com/VictoriaDahl/status/1129080591352098816" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tweet about hysteria</a>.</li><li>More about the <a href="https://www.vox.com/2019/5/16/18628002/abortion-ohio-alabama-georgia-law-bill-details" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">forced birth laws sweeping through several states</a>, and <a href="https://www.teenvogue.com/story/where-to-donate-and-how-to-help-keep-abortion-legal" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">where you can donate your money</a> if you're so inclined.</li><li>How <a href="https://rewire.news/article/2019/03/01/women-are-not-the-only-ones-who-get-abortions/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">transgender and gender nonconforming people might be especially endangered</a> from this recent spate of laws.</li><li>Sarah's twitter thread asking <a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1128656468486520832" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">about romances with abortion</a>.</li><li><a href="http://www.gutenberg.org/files/25305/25305-h/25305-h.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fanny Hill</a> and some of the <a href="https://formysir.com/product/erotfh02" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">illustrations</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12807304" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tinctures, tonics, and teas</a>.</li><li>The portrayal of <a href="https://medium.com/@shaynamurphy/on-sex-feminism-and-growing-up-with-fast-times-at-ridgemont-high-716a904b0bb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">abortion in Fast Times at Ridgemont High</a>.</li><li>The <a href="https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/08/23/545289168/abstinence-education-is-ineffective-and-unethical-report-argues" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">perils of abstinence-only education</a>.</li><li>Romance is a powerful tool for <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/20/opinion/sunday/romance-novels-sex-ed.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sex-education</a>, but not all authors view it as <a href="https://www.salon.com/2015/01/31/do_condoms_kill_the_mood_of_a_book_erotica_authors_dont_agree_on_safe_sex_demands/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a responsibility</a>.</li><li><a href="https://bookriot.com/2014/07/09/euphemisms-body-parts-romance-novels-ranking/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Romance euphamisms</a> FTW.</li><li><a href="https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1723C9UJUSQWrQqWwT0uDIL_u7jhutIs6?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Screenshots</a> from the scene Sarah referenced in Jane Feather's Vixen.</li><li>All about <a href="https://www.cdc.gov/reproductivehealth/contraception/unintendedpregnancy/pdf/Contraceptive_methods_508.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the efficacy of birth control</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/12/vsbe-condoms/382245/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">French Letters</a> had to soak for two hours (at least)...oh! And we forgot the best (ACTUAL WORST) part: They were <em>reusable</em>. --scream emoji--</li><li>Sarah says we should all watch the TV show <a href="https://www.hulu.com/series/harlots-18edbd1f-3e9f-46a0-8dc4-02ff7b1eef63?&amp;cmp=7735&amp;utm_source=google&amp;utm_medium=SEM&amp;utm_campaign=CM%20Search%20Harlots&amp;utm_term=harlots%20tv%20show&amp;ds_rl=1251123&amp;ds_rl=1251123&amp;gclid=EAIaIQobChMItJ3TkLCo4gIVkI-zCh0FrAIqEAAYASAAEgINo_D_BwE&amp;gclsrc=aw.ds" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Harlots</a>, and not just because it shows <a href="https://allthatsinteresting.com/history-of-condoms" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">French letters</a>.</li><li>"<a href="https://youtu.be/iX3kxAA2L4Q" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">220/221 whatever it takes</a>," is a quote from Mr. Mom. Actually, we talked about a lot of 80s movies on today's episode, including <a href="https://youtu.be/d4ftmOI5NnI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Princess Bride</a> and <a href="https://youtu.be/y4Eo2_YMZtE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">When Harry Met Sally</a>. But we didn't mention <a href="https://www.huffpost.com/entry/dirty-dancing-writer-on-why-she-integrated-illegal-abortion-into-a-love-story_n_59a81364e4b010ca289ab177" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dirty Dancing</a> which has a botched back alley abortion. We meant to...but this is what happens when you don't take good notes before you rant.</li><li>This <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aL4dL9mUXGTp0i868AE5YYMIlELwwQ0U/view?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2011 paper about condoms and birth control in romance</a> is VERY INTERESTING.</li><li>A link to <a href="https://twitter.com/DreamingReviews/status/1080878158424010753" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Twitter conversation</a> about <a href="http://www.whatisprep.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">PrEP</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/birth-control/withdrawal-pull-out-method/how-effective-is-withdrawal-method-pulling-out" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pulling out</a> is weirdly more effective than you'd think for preventing pregnancy, but not at all effective for preventing STIs.</li><li>All about <a href="https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/morning-after-pill-emergency-contraception/whats-plan-b-morning-after-pill" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Plan B</a>.</li><li>The <a href="https://www.bgsu.edu/library/pcl.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pop Culture Library at Bowling Green University</a> is a place both Jen and Sarah would like to visit. <a href="https://twitter.com/stegan" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Librarian Steve Ammidown</a> is the 2019 RWA Librarian of the Year.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/kellyfaircloth" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kelly Faircloth</a> writes great articles about romance for Jezebel.</li><li><a href="https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/health-and-wellness/endometriosis" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Endometriosis</a> deserves more attention than it gets.</li><li>What it means to be "<a href="https://youtu.be/TKOKD69jUA0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">childless by choice</a>."</li><li>Jen's post about <a href="http://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2018/02/lets-talk-miscarriages-in-romance.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">miscarriage in romance</a>, and some statistics about <a href="https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/pregnancy/miscarriage" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">how often miscarriages</a> happen.</li><li><a href="https://www.guttmacher.org/news-release/2017/abortion-common-experience-us-women-despite-dramatic-declines-rates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">25% of American women</a> have had an abortion.</li><li>Sweet Liar is the only romance that Sarah can think of that references a <a href="https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/birth-control/vasectomy/how-do-i-get-vasectomy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">vasectomy</a>--please tell us if you've got other examples?</li><li>The Jezebel article wondering <a href="https://jezebel.com/how-many-more-stories-do-women-need-to-tell-1834811782" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">how many more abortion stories</a> we have to share.</li><li>If you're on FB, check out Sarah's <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/osrbc/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">OSRBC</a> (Old School Romance Book club).</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/5/18/135-freewheeling-with-sarah-and-jen]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5ce0735788a0fe0001d6b2dc</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/1cbfd5d1-9c23-4f24-abcb-f7b5c94a2fd1/fm-logo-1000.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2019 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/9bf2bd48-a769-460f-abbf-00c5a37181be/fated-mates-roe-reva.mp3" length="89023961" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:26:10</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>28</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>28</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Y’all asked for more rants, and boy do we have some for you this week! Alabama passed a terrible law, Georgia and Ohio are right there with them, and other states are following suit. Jen and Sarah are talking bodily autonomy — contraception, pregnancy, miscarriage, stillbirth, hysterectomy and abortion and how they exist in romance novels. Get your pens ready — we’ve got a library full of books to talk about.</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/5273ed8d-0068-48b5-a2db-9c893a49d248/index.html" type="text/html"/><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-9bf2bd48-a769-460f-abbf-00c5a37181be.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>13: Can Eastern Promises Viggo Mortensen Get It? - The Professional (Game Makers)</title><itunes:title>Can Eastern Promises Viggo Mortensen Get It? - The Professional (Game Makers)</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>The Game Makers Series! Kresley’s first foray into contemporary begins with The Professional, which is some kind of book, y’all. Originally released in three parts over six weeks, The Professional stars Natalie, an American Ph.D. who happens to be the long lost daughter of a Russian mobster, and said mobster’s bodyguard, who can’t get enough of watching her in the tub. Or on his cellphone. Or tied up in a sex club. You’ll see! </p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review.&nbsp;</p><p>In two weeks, we’re back to IAD, just like the original Kresley fans were! Get ready to have your heart ripped out by these childhood lovers turned enemies turned lovers again! Poor Lanthe has been running from her Vrekener, Thronos since <em>Kiss of the Demon King</em>, and finally she gets her story! Read <em>Dark Skye</em> at&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2Hj4r5R" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dark-skye-kresley-cole/1117366800?ean=9781451649963#/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/dark-skye/id741335609?mt=11&amp;app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/dark-skye" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or&nbsp;<a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781451649956" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local Indie</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>When we asked about the serialization of The Professional, listener&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/Sarah_Ashari29/status/1123662738406957057" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah Asnaashari</a>&nbsp;came to the rescue!</li><li><a href="https://booksonthewall.com/blog/serial-novel-a-brief-history/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Serialization of novels</a>&nbsp;used to be very common, and although we've all heard&nbsp;<a href="https://dickens.ucsc.edu/resources/faq/by-the-word.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the myth that Dickens was paid by the word</a>, in fact he was paid by the installment.</li><li>Roxie Rivera is the author of the&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2W6jxnm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Her Russian Protector series</a>, relevant to everyone's interests, she also wrote a "prison planet romance" series under the name&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2LGyzMY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lolita Lopez</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/eastern-promises-2007" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Eastern Promises</a>&nbsp;is a great movie.</li><li>Scroll down this list for the description of Edward's creepiness in&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thelist.com/91091/things-twilight-notice-adult/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twilight</a>.</li><li>Sookie Stackhouse is a telepath&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2Q5Loij" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">in the books</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.hbo.com/true-blood" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">TV show</a>. This is an interesting essay on why Hollywood&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bitchmedia.org/post/the-transcontinental-disability-choir-true-blood-sookie-stackhouse-telepathy-and-disability" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">should stop talking about telepathy as a disability</a>.</li><li><a href="http://www.criticalcommons.org/Members/m_friers/clips/waynes-world-spoofing-a-marked-temporal-reversal/view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">That Wayne's World flashback noise</a>.</li><li>Jen will never get tired of the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/a3b38p/house-with-sex-dungeon-real-estate-listing-photos-pennsylvania-vgtrn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">greatest real estate listing ever</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2016/10/6/13191010/how-hurricanes-form-tropical-storms-guide" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Real hurricanes form over the Atlantic</a>&nbsp;very similarly to the way Jen describes a hurricane of an alphahole forming.</li><li>We want characters to have&nbsp;<a href="http://terribleminds.com/ramble/2014/06/03/just-what-the-humping-heck-is-character-agency-anyway/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">agency</a>.</li><li>The story of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thoughtco.com/anastasia-romanov-biography-4173902" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Anastasia Romanov</a>&nbsp;is pretty amazing. Jen recommends this YA book called&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2VCbAqF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Family Romanov</a>&nbsp;for both adults and middle school readers.</li><li>George Michael's&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Listen_Without_Prejudice_Vol._1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Listen Without Prejudice</a>&nbsp;is an awesome album, and Jen still thinks&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/diYAc7gB-0A" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Freedom</a>&nbsp;is one the greatest music videos of all time. Sarah's theme song is&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ2DVwSVIIo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Too Funky</a>.</li><li>Jen recommends (in that "this book is terrifying way")&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2E7Gs7C" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Man without a Face: the Unlikely Rise of Vladimir Putin</a>. But if you just want the quick and dirty version, read this story about how&nbsp;<a href="https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/01/23/vladimir-putin-robert-kraft-patriots-super-bowl-ring-stolen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Putin stole a superbowl ring from Robert Kraft</a>.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate_code" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Pirate's Code</a>.</li><li>Romance author Jayne Ann Krentz often talks about how author's have a "<a href="https://rwchat.com/2016/08/10/core-story-wtf-is-that/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">core story</a>."</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2Hj4r5R" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dark Skye</a>&nbsp;is our next IAD book.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/4/22/13-the-professional </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Game Makers Series! Kresley’s first foray into contemporary begins with The Professional, which is some kind of book, y’all. Originally released in three parts over six weeks, The Professional stars Natalie, an American Ph.D. who happens to be the long lost daughter of a Russian mobster, and said mobster’s bodyguard, who can’t get enough of watching her in the tub. Or on his cellphone. Or tied up in a sex club. You’ll see! </p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review.&nbsp;</p><p>In two weeks, we’re back to IAD, just like the original Kresley fans were! Get ready to have your heart ripped out by these childhood lovers turned enemies turned lovers again! Poor Lanthe has been running from her Vrekener, Thronos since <em>Kiss of the Demon King</em>, and finally she gets her story! Read <em>Dark Skye</em> at&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2Hj4r5R" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dark-skye-kresley-cole/1117366800?ean=9781451649963#/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/dark-skye/id741335609?mt=11&amp;app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/dark-skye" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or&nbsp;<a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781451649956" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local Indie</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>When we asked about the serialization of The Professional, listener&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/Sarah_Ashari29/status/1123662738406957057" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah Asnaashari</a>&nbsp;came to the rescue!</li><li><a href="https://booksonthewall.com/blog/serial-novel-a-brief-history/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Serialization of novels</a>&nbsp;used to be very common, and although we've all heard&nbsp;<a href="https://dickens.ucsc.edu/resources/faq/by-the-word.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the myth that Dickens was paid by the word</a>, in fact he was paid by the installment.</li><li>Roxie Rivera is the author of the&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2W6jxnm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Her Russian Protector series</a>, relevant to everyone's interests, she also wrote a "prison planet romance" series under the name&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2LGyzMY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lolita Lopez</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/eastern-promises-2007" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Eastern Promises</a>&nbsp;is a great movie.</li><li>Scroll down this list for the description of Edward's creepiness in&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thelist.com/91091/things-twilight-notice-adult/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twilight</a>.</li><li>Sookie Stackhouse is a telepath&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2Q5Loij" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">in the books</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.hbo.com/true-blood" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">TV show</a>. This is an interesting essay on why Hollywood&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bitchmedia.org/post/the-transcontinental-disability-choir-true-blood-sookie-stackhouse-telepathy-and-disability" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">should stop talking about telepathy as a disability</a>.</li><li><a href="http://www.criticalcommons.org/Members/m_friers/clips/waynes-world-spoofing-a-marked-temporal-reversal/view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">That Wayne's World flashback noise</a>.</li><li>Jen will never get tired of the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/a3b38p/house-with-sex-dungeon-real-estate-listing-photos-pennsylvania-vgtrn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">greatest real estate listing ever</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2016/10/6/13191010/how-hurricanes-form-tropical-storms-guide" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Real hurricanes form over the Atlantic</a>&nbsp;very similarly to the way Jen describes a hurricane of an alphahole forming.</li><li>We want characters to have&nbsp;<a href="http://terribleminds.com/ramble/2014/06/03/just-what-the-humping-heck-is-character-agency-anyway/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">agency</a>.</li><li>The story of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thoughtco.com/anastasia-romanov-biography-4173902" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Anastasia Romanov</a>&nbsp;is pretty amazing. Jen recommends this YA book called&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2VCbAqF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Family Romanov</a>&nbsp;for both adults and middle school readers.</li><li>George Michael's&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Listen_Without_Prejudice_Vol._1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Listen Without Prejudice</a>&nbsp;is an awesome album, and Jen still thinks&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/diYAc7gB-0A" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Freedom</a>&nbsp;is one the greatest music videos of all time. Sarah's theme song is&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ2DVwSVIIo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Too Funky</a>.</li><li>Jen recommends (in that "this book is terrifying way")&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2E7Gs7C" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Man without a Face: the Unlikely Rise of Vladimir Putin</a>. But if you just want the quick and dirty version, read this story about how&nbsp;<a href="https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/01/23/vladimir-putin-robert-kraft-patriots-super-bowl-ring-stolen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Putin stole a superbowl ring from Robert Kraft</a>.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate_code" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Pirate's Code</a>.</li><li>Romance author Jayne Ann Krentz often talks about how author's have a "<a href="https://rwchat.com/2016/08/10/core-story-wtf-is-that/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">core story</a>."</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2Hj4r5R" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dark Skye</a>&nbsp;is our next IAD book.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/4/22/13-the-professional </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/4/22/13-the-professional]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5cbe393ceb393123d1e6c6aa</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2019 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/e90cc6c1-92b0-467a-8057-c6425c585223/fated-mates-professional-final.mp3" length="77415173" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:16:12</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>27</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>27</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><itunes:summary>The Game Makers Series! Kresley’s first foray into contemporary begins with The Professional, which is some kind of book, y’all. Originally released in three parts over six weeks, The Professional stars Natalie, an American Ph.D. who happens to be the long lost daughter of a Russian mobster, and said mobster’s bodyguard, who can’t get enough of watching her in the tub. Or on his cellphone. Or tied up in a sex club. You’ll see!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-e90cc6c1-92b0-467a-8057-c6425c585223.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>12.5: Small Town Romance</title><itunes:title>Small Town Romance</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Small towns! Jen (Chicago) and Sarah (NYC) do not understand them IRL, but we are talking about them in fiction this week! Listen to us talk about their genesis, what they represent, and why Romancelandia can’t get enough of them. Books by Sierra Simone, Vanessa North &amp; Alisha Rai!</p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review.&nbsp;Also — if you have a romance loving friend, please let them know that we don’t just talk about vampires &amp; valkyries, and maybe they’d like us, too? </p><p>In fact — In two weeks, we’re not talking about vampires at all! (Except we kind of are) The Game Makers series read-along begins with Kresley’s first contemporary, The Professional. Get ready for Wroth Brother fanfic that Kresley herself refers to as “way sexier” then IAD. Get The Professional at&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2UPXRXW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-professional-kresley-cole/1117322546?ean=9781476782492" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-professional/id869870272?mt=11&amp;app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-professional-9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or&nbsp;<a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781476785011" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local Indie</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>In case you missed the&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signet_Regency_romances" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Signet Regency</a>&nbsp;era of romance.</li><li>More about the&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regency_era" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Regency period</a>, and Sarah would like you to know that she knows “a bunch of people” didn’t come between George IV &amp; Victoria. One person did: William IV.</li><li>Everyone's favorite&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/hasKmDr1yrA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Darcy</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/by4DlQzIohE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Darcy-esque</a>&nbsp;figure.</li><li><a href="https://www.janeausten.org/regency-period.asp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jane Austen</a>&nbsp;and her world,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theparisreview.org/blog/2014/06/05/the-unknown-ajax/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Georgette Heyer</a>&nbsp;and hers.</li><li><a href="https://genius.com/Ian-hunter-cleveland-rocks-lyrics" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleveland</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.rockhall.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">DOES rock</a>, and yes the&nbsp;<a href="http://www.ohiohistorycentral.org/w/Cuyahoga_River_Fire" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cuyahoga River caught on fire</a>, but that&nbsp;<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2014/06/22/the-fable-of-the-burning-river-45-years-later/?noredirect=on&amp;utm_term=.fcff101aa184" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">whole story is kind of a myth</a>.</li><li>Y'all know who Jen means when she talks about&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/BestFriendKelly" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kelly</a>, right?</li><li>The word Jen was searching for when talking about small town romances was "<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_revisionism" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">revisionist</a>."</li><li><a href="https://quoteinvestigator.com/2015/05/06/two-plots/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Maybe it wasn't "some Russian</a>" who talked about the two stories.</li><li><a href="https://www.colsonwhitehead.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Colson Whitehead</a>&nbsp;is amazing and Jen definitely recommends seeing him in person if you ever have the chance. You can&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/11/magazine/the-way-we-live-now-11-11-01-lost-and-found.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">read his post 9/11 essay</a>&nbsp;at the New York Times.</li><li><a href="https://www.whiting.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Whiting Award</a></li><li>All about how Americans live:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2018/05/22/demographic-and-economic-trends-in-urban-suburban-and-rural-communities/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">urban, suburban, or rural</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2009/06/22/real-romance-2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nora Roberts was profiled in the New Yorker</a>&nbsp;and talks about her favorite small town:&nbsp;<a href="http://www.noraroberts.com/about-nora/boonsboro/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Boonsboro</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.farrahrochon.com/books" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Farrah Rochon</a>&nbsp;also writes a great series of small town romances.</li><li><a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/04/walmart-iq2/522609/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">How WalMart changes small towns</a>.</li><li>As it turns out,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/elections/2016/results/kansas" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">there is not a Menage County, KS</a>.</li><li>Did you say&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/jenritas" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">RITA books</a>?</li><li>Jen's favorite cupcake place in Chicago is&nbsp;<a href="https://sweetmandybs.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sweet MandyB's</a>.</li><li>A&nbsp;<a href="https://svrollergirls.wordpress.com/roller-derby-a-glossary/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Roller Derby glossary</a>&nbsp;and some&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/_-3rDqa2gqM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">video tutorials</a>&nbsp;for all your favorite moves. Stay safe, kids!</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/yClVlc_niac" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Montagues &amp; Capulets</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatfield%E2%80%93McCoy_feud" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hatfields &amp; McCoys</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/974050033736863746" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chandlers &amp; Kanes</a>.</li><li>The saddest discovery Jen made while working on this week's show notes is that&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/12386784-hot-as-hades" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hot as Hades</a>&nbsp;is no longer available as an eBook! Oh no!</li><li>On Twitter, Bree Bridges of Kit Rocha asked people to&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/mostlybree/status/1095075519094276097" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">reply with the size of a "small town."</a></li><li>In Brooklyn, go to&nbsp;<a href="https://shop.butterandscotch.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Butter and Scotch</a>&nbsp;for cake, and based on this website, they have some very Romancelandia-friendly swag.</li><li>Have you pre-ordered&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2H5BF8U" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brazen and the Beast</a>&nbsp;yet?</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Small towns! Jen (Chicago) and Sarah (NYC) do not understand them IRL, but we are talking about them in fiction this week! Listen to us talk about their genesis, what they represent, and why Romancelandia can’t get enough of them. Books by Sierra Simone, Vanessa North &amp; Alisha Rai!</p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review.&nbsp;Also — if you have a romance loving friend, please let them know that we don’t just talk about vampires &amp; valkyries, and maybe they’d like us, too? </p><p>In fact — In two weeks, we’re not talking about vampires at all! (Except we kind of are) The Game Makers series read-along begins with Kresley’s first contemporary, The Professional. Get ready for Wroth Brother fanfic that Kresley herself refers to as “way sexier” then IAD. Get The Professional at&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2UPXRXW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-professional-kresley-cole/1117322546?ean=9781476782492" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-professional/id869870272?mt=11&amp;app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-professional-9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or&nbsp;<a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781476785011" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local Indie</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>In case you missed the&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signet_Regency_romances" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Signet Regency</a>&nbsp;era of romance.</li><li>More about the&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regency_era" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Regency period</a>, and Sarah would like you to know that she knows “a bunch of people” didn’t come between George IV &amp; Victoria. One person did: William IV.</li><li>Everyone's favorite&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/hasKmDr1yrA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Darcy</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/by4DlQzIohE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Darcy-esque</a>&nbsp;figure.</li><li><a href="https://www.janeausten.org/regency-period.asp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jane Austen</a>&nbsp;and her world,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theparisreview.org/blog/2014/06/05/the-unknown-ajax/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Georgette Heyer</a>&nbsp;and hers.</li><li><a href="https://genius.com/Ian-hunter-cleveland-rocks-lyrics" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleveland</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.rockhall.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">DOES rock</a>, and yes the&nbsp;<a href="http://www.ohiohistorycentral.org/w/Cuyahoga_River_Fire" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cuyahoga River caught on fire</a>, but that&nbsp;<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2014/06/22/the-fable-of-the-burning-river-45-years-later/?noredirect=on&amp;utm_term=.fcff101aa184" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">whole story is kind of a myth</a>.</li><li>Y'all know who Jen means when she talks about&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/BestFriendKelly" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kelly</a>, right?</li><li>The word Jen was searching for when talking about small town romances was "<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_revisionism" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">revisionist</a>."</li><li><a href="https://quoteinvestigator.com/2015/05/06/two-plots/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Maybe it wasn't "some Russian</a>" who talked about the two stories.</li><li><a href="https://www.colsonwhitehead.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Colson Whitehead</a>&nbsp;is amazing and Jen definitely recommends seeing him in person if you ever have the chance. You can&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/11/magazine/the-way-we-live-now-11-11-01-lost-and-found.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">read his post 9/11 essay</a>&nbsp;at the New York Times.</li><li><a href="https://www.whiting.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Whiting Award</a></li><li>All about how Americans live:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2018/05/22/demographic-and-economic-trends-in-urban-suburban-and-rural-communities/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">urban, suburban, or rural</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2009/06/22/real-romance-2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nora Roberts was profiled in the New Yorker</a>&nbsp;and talks about her favorite small town:&nbsp;<a href="http://www.noraroberts.com/about-nora/boonsboro/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Boonsboro</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.farrahrochon.com/books" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Farrah Rochon</a>&nbsp;also writes a great series of small town romances.</li><li><a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/04/walmart-iq2/522609/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">How WalMart changes small towns</a>.</li><li>As it turns out,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/elections/2016/results/kansas" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">there is not a Menage County, KS</a>.</li><li>Did you say&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/jenritas" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">RITA books</a>?</li><li>Jen's favorite cupcake place in Chicago is&nbsp;<a href="https://sweetmandybs.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sweet MandyB's</a>.</li><li>A&nbsp;<a href="https://svrollergirls.wordpress.com/roller-derby-a-glossary/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Roller Derby glossary</a>&nbsp;and some&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/_-3rDqa2gqM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">video tutorials</a>&nbsp;for all your favorite moves. Stay safe, kids!</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/yClVlc_niac" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Montagues &amp; Capulets</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatfield%E2%80%93McCoy_feud" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hatfields &amp; McCoys</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/974050033736863746" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chandlers &amp; Kanes</a>.</li><li>The saddest discovery Jen made while working on this week's show notes is that&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/12386784-hot-as-hades" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hot as Hades</a>&nbsp;is no longer available as an eBook! Oh no!</li><li>On Twitter, Bree Bridges of Kit Rocha asked people to&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/mostlybree/status/1095075519094276097" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">reply with the size of a "small town."</a></li><li>In Brooklyn, go to&nbsp;<a href="https://shop.butterandscotch.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Butter and Scotch</a>&nbsp;for cake, and based on this website, they have some very Romancelandia-friendly swag.</li><li>Have you pre-ordered&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2H5BF8U" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brazen and the Beast</a>&nbsp;yet?</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/5/6/125-small-town-romance-interstitial]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5cd01e21085229f44bfe9e65</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2019 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/c83adb90-78b7-4758-8a46-4b24dc4ff774/fatedmates-smalltown-final.mp3" length="59543100" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>59:14</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>26</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>26</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Small towns! Jen (Chicago) and Sarah (NYC) do not understand them IRL, but we are talking about them in fiction this week! Listen to us talk about their genesis, what they represent, and why Romancelandia can’t get enough of them. Books by Sierra Simone, Vanessa North &amp; Alisha Rai!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-c83adb90-78b7-4758-8a46-4b24dc4ff774.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>12: Do Not Let the Lykae into the Yankee Candle Store: MacRieve</title><itunes:title>Do Not Let the Lykae into the Yankee Candle Store - MacRieve</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>MacRieve is here and so is friend of the pod, Sierra Simone! We’re so excited to talk about The Full Kresley, what makes erotic romance, The Simone Scale™ of taboo romance, why MacRieve is so tough to read, why Sarah thinks it might be Kresley’s best book, and why Chloe is such a badass. There’s a lot of hysterical laughter, and Sarah is preparing for legal action.</p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review.&nbsp;</p><p>In two weeks, we’re starting Kresley’s contemporary series The Game Makers (we’re reading the books in original publication order) with The Professional. Get ready for Wroth Brother fanfic that Kresley herself refers to as “way sexier” then IAD. Get The Professional at&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2UPXRXW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-professional-kresley-cole/1117322546?ean=9781476782492" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-professional/id869870272?mt=11&amp;app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-professional-9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or&nbsp;<a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781476785011" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local Indie</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://www.necrwa.org/conference/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">NECRWA conference</a>&nbsp;always sounds so great!</li><li>I don't even know&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/Charlotte_Stein/status/1034711781049020416" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">where to start</a>&nbsp;with Andie Christopher and her Chris Evans obssession.</li><li><a href="https://www.vox.com/2019/4/29/18521581/avengers-endgame-box-office-1-2-billion" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Avengers Endgame</a>, that ol' chesnut.</li><li>We stan&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/thesierrasimone/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sierra Simone</a>, and we love The Sierra Simone Scale™. Check out her two latest,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2vuCnWA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Misadventures of a Curvy Girl</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2USQjUJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Lesson in Thorns</a>.</li><li><a href="https://debbiemacomber.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Debbie Macomber</a>&nbsp;is a queen of small town contemporary romance.</li><li>You can't stop me, you can only hope to contain me is a play on a very catchy&nbsp;<a href="https://bleacherreport.com/articles/150817-espn-top-ten-catchphrases-of-all-time" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ESPN phrase from back in the day</a>.</li><li>Adriana Herrera wrote about how to&nbsp;<a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/2019/04/sexual-assault-in-romance/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ethically write about sexual trauma</a>&nbsp;for Smart Bitches. She also&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/3/18/95-foodie-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">joined us to talk about Food Romances</a>&nbsp;&amp; her most recent release.</li><li>Adriana Anders'&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2XR7AiE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Under Her Skin</a>&nbsp;explores a story of a woman's traumatic past, as does&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2Y0Czcp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Long Shot</a>&nbsp;by Kennedy Ryan.</li><li>Suzanne from Love In Panels wrote a great&nbsp;<a href="http://www.loveinpanels.com/prose/content-warnings" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">explainer about content warnings</a>&nbsp;and why we use them.</li><li>This is a&nbsp;<a href="https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/a27099255/game-of-thrones-treatment-of-women-controversy-legacy/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">powerful critique of sexual violence in Game of Thrones</a>.</li><li>Just last year, two books about women and anger were published:&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2DFvqGq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rage Becomes Her</a>&nbsp;by Soraya Chemaly and&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2vvFFZH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Good and Mad</a>&nbsp;by Rebecca Traister.</li><li>More about&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_dysregulation" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">emotional dysregulation</a>.</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2vtj5Rh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Lyon by Jude Deveraux</a>&nbsp;is an old school classic.</li><li>Dick flu is definitely some&nbsp;<a href="https://www.huffpost.com/entry/what-is-bde-and-why-is-everyone-talking-about-it_n_5b34f837e4b0b745f17bfa42" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">BDE</a>.</li><li>You'd be surprised about how much writer's advice you can find about the evils of&nbsp;<a href="http://www.fiction-writers-mentor.com/info-dumping/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the info dump</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.vox.com/2015/8/25/9200801/wingdings-font-history" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The history of the Wingding</a>.</li><li>There's an entire subreddit dedicated to&nbsp;<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/Comcast/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ranting about Comcast</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.yankeecandle.com/browse/gifts/gift-sets/_/N-8ew?view=Grid&amp;gclid=EAIaIQobChMIn6aUoKP54QIVw4WzCh2zXwv0EAAYASAAEgLDxPD_BwE&amp;gclsrc=aw.ds" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Yankee Candle</a>&nbsp;will eff a werewolf up.</li><li>You can&nbsp;<a href="https://wickedwallflowersclub.com/2018/10/31/ep-52-kresley-cole-and-gena-showalter/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">listen to Kresley</a>&nbsp;on the Wicked Wallflowers podcast.</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/amYzBQMT4VI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Snakes on a plane</a>!</li><li>The story of&nbsp;<a href="https://history.howstuffworks.com/history-vs-myth/10-historical-misconceptions9.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sir Walter Raleigh throwing down his cape</a>&nbsp;for Queen Elizabeth to walk over is not historically accurate, but it still makes for a<a href="https://imgur.com/gallery/veHjhD7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">&nbsp;great scene in Shakespeare in Love</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.tor.com/2017/03/09/the-fifth-element-luc-bessons-wild-and-crazy-masterpiece/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Fifth Element</a>&nbsp;is a completely rewatchable movie.</li><li>All about&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothman" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Mothman</a>, who, it bears pointing out, Lothaire says exists.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/618069685876195328" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Here's the beginning of Sarah's stalking</a>&nbsp;of Sierra after reading (and loving)&nbsp;<a href="http://amzn.to/1Rg6Bn4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Priest</a>.</li><li>Next time, we're going off road and have decided we'll be reading the first book in The Game Makers series,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2UPXRXW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Professional</a>. Here's&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/Bwe6muJAdNd/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the reading order</a>&nbsp;for the rest of Fated Mates Season One.</li></ul><br/><h2>Lost Limb Count</h2><p><strong>Arms and Hands (8)</strong></p><ol><li><em>Conrad</em>&nbsp;cuts off his own hand with a rusty axe so he escape the "witched" chains his brothers locked him in. (<em>Dark Needs at Night's Edge</em>)</li><li><em>Cadeon</em>&nbsp;has both of his hands burned off in the same scene where he loses an eye. There's description of what Cade's baby fingers look like as they are re-growing. It's...kinda gross. (<em>Dark Desires After Dusk</em>)</li><li><em>Sebastian</em>&nbsp;pulverizes most of his right arm during the Hie. He regenerates. (<em>No Rest For the Wicked</em>)</li><li><em>Lucia</em>&nbsp;peels all the skin off from her hand in order to free herself from some handcuffs. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li><li>In order to retrieve the ring from&nbsp;<em>La Dorada</em>&nbsp;, Lothaire cuts off her finger. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li><li><em>Lanthe</em>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<em>Carrow</em>&nbsp;cut off Fegley's hand so they can use his thumb to unlock their torques. He's later killed. (<em>Demon from the Dark</em>)</li><li>After receiving Lothaire's heart in a box,&nbsp;<em>Ellie</em>&nbsp;cuts off her middle finger and sends it to him. (Lothaire)</li><li><em>Chloe</em>'s shoulder is dislocated in the escape from her auction (MacRieve).</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Chest and Torso (7)</strong></p><ol><li>Omort severs&nbsp;<em>Rydstrom's</em>&nbsp;spine and punches through his torso in a fight. Sabine saves him and enlists Hag to help heal him. (<em>Kiss of a Demon King</em>)</li><li><em>Lucia</em>'s neck is broken. She regenerates. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li><li>On Torture Island,&nbsp;<em>Regin</em>,</li><li><em>MacRieve</em>,</li><li>and&nbsp;<em>Brandr</em>&nbsp;are vivisected. It's pretty terrible. (<em>Dreams of a Dark Warrior</em>)</li><li><em>Declan</em>'s skin is peeled off by the Neoptera as a child. (<em>Dreams of a Dark Warrior</em>)</li><li>Lothaire rips out his own heart and sends it to Ellie in a box. (<em>Lothaire</em>)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Head, Face, and Eyes (6)</strong></p><ol><li><em>Bowen</em>&nbsp;loses an eye and most of his forehead during the Hie. Mariketa has cursed him and he can't heal until he returns to her. (<em>Wicked Deeds on a Winter's Night</em>)</li><li><em>Cadeon</em>&nbsp;loses an eye and part of his forehead and hair when fighting.]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MacRieve is here and so is friend of the pod, Sierra Simone! We’re so excited to talk about The Full Kresley, what makes erotic romance, The Simone Scale™ of taboo romance, why MacRieve is so tough to read, why Sarah thinks it might be Kresley’s best book, and why Chloe is such a badass. There’s a lot of hysterical laughter, and Sarah is preparing for legal action.</p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review.&nbsp;</p><p>In two weeks, we’re starting Kresley’s contemporary series The Game Makers (we’re reading the books in original publication order) with The Professional. Get ready for Wroth Brother fanfic that Kresley herself refers to as “way sexier” then IAD. Get The Professional at&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2UPXRXW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-professional-kresley-cole/1117322546?ean=9781476782492" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-professional/id869870272?mt=11&amp;app=itunes&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-professional-9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or&nbsp;<a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781476785011" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local Indie</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://www.necrwa.org/conference/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">NECRWA conference</a>&nbsp;always sounds so great!</li><li>I don't even know&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/Charlotte_Stein/status/1034711781049020416" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">where to start</a>&nbsp;with Andie Christopher and her Chris Evans obssession.</li><li><a href="https://www.vox.com/2019/4/29/18521581/avengers-endgame-box-office-1-2-billion" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Avengers Endgame</a>, that ol' chesnut.</li><li>We stan&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/thesierrasimone/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sierra Simone</a>, and we love The Sierra Simone Scale™. Check out her two latest,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2vuCnWA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Misadventures of a Curvy Girl</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2USQjUJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Lesson in Thorns</a>.</li><li><a href="https://debbiemacomber.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Debbie Macomber</a>&nbsp;is a queen of small town contemporary romance.</li><li>You can't stop me, you can only hope to contain me is a play on a very catchy&nbsp;<a href="https://bleacherreport.com/articles/150817-espn-top-ten-catchphrases-of-all-time" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ESPN phrase from back in the day</a>.</li><li>Adriana Herrera wrote about how to&nbsp;<a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/2019/04/sexual-assault-in-romance/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ethically write about sexual trauma</a>&nbsp;for Smart Bitches. She also&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/3/18/95-foodie-romance-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">joined us to talk about Food Romances</a>&nbsp;&amp; her most recent release.</li><li>Adriana Anders'&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2XR7AiE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Under Her Skin</a>&nbsp;explores a story of a woman's traumatic past, as does&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2Y0Czcp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Long Shot</a>&nbsp;by Kennedy Ryan.</li><li>Suzanne from Love In Panels wrote a great&nbsp;<a href="http://www.loveinpanels.com/prose/content-warnings" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">explainer about content warnings</a>&nbsp;and why we use them.</li><li>This is a&nbsp;<a href="https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/a27099255/game-of-thrones-treatment-of-women-controversy-legacy/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">powerful critique of sexual violence in Game of Thrones</a>.</li><li>Just last year, two books about women and anger were published:&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2DFvqGq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rage Becomes Her</a>&nbsp;by Soraya Chemaly and&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2vvFFZH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Good and Mad</a>&nbsp;by Rebecca Traister.</li><li>More about&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_dysregulation" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">emotional dysregulation</a>.</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2vtj5Rh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Lyon by Jude Deveraux</a>&nbsp;is an old school classic.</li><li>Dick flu is definitely some&nbsp;<a href="https://www.huffpost.com/entry/what-is-bde-and-why-is-everyone-talking-about-it_n_5b34f837e4b0b745f17bfa42" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">BDE</a>.</li><li>You'd be surprised about how much writer's advice you can find about the evils of&nbsp;<a href="http://www.fiction-writers-mentor.com/info-dumping/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the info dump</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.vox.com/2015/8/25/9200801/wingdings-font-history" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The history of the Wingding</a>.</li><li>There's an entire subreddit dedicated to&nbsp;<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/Comcast/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ranting about Comcast</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.yankeecandle.com/browse/gifts/gift-sets/_/N-8ew?view=Grid&amp;gclid=EAIaIQobChMIn6aUoKP54QIVw4WzCh2zXwv0EAAYASAAEgLDxPD_BwE&amp;gclsrc=aw.ds" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Yankee Candle</a>&nbsp;will eff a werewolf up.</li><li>You can&nbsp;<a href="https://wickedwallflowersclub.com/2018/10/31/ep-52-kresley-cole-and-gena-showalter/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">listen to Kresley</a>&nbsp;on the Wicked Wallflowers podcast.</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/amYzBQMT4VI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Snakes on a plane</a>!</li><li>The story of&nbsp;<a href="https://history.howstuffworks.com/history-vs-myth/10-historical-misconceptions9.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sir Walter Raleigh throwing down his cape</a>&nbsp;for Queen Elizabeth to walk over is not historically accurate, but it still makes for a<a href="https://imgur.com/gallery/veHjhD7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">&nbsp;great scene in Shakespeare in Love</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.tor.com/2017/03/09/the-fifth-element-luc-bessons-wild-and-crazy-masterpiece/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Fifth Element</a>&nbsp;is a completely rewatchable movie.</li><li>All about&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothman" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Mothman</a>, who, it bears pointing out, Lothaire says exists.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/618069685876195328" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Here's the beginning of Sarah's stalking</a>&nbsp;of Sierra after reading (and loving)&nbsp;<a href="http://amzn.to/1Rg6Bn4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Priest</a>.</li><li>Next time, we're going off road and have decided we'll be reading the first book in The Game Makers series,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2UPXRXW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Professional</a>. Here's&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/Bwe6muJAdNd/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the reading order</a>&nbsp;for the rest of Fated Mates Season One.</li></ul><br/><h2>Lost Limb Count</h2><p><strong>Arms and Hands (8)</strong></p><ol><li><em>Conrad</em>&nbsp;cuts off his own hand with a rusty axe so he escape the "witched" chains his brothers locked him in. (<em>Dark Needs at Night's Edge</em>)</li><li><em>Cadeon</em>&nbsp;has both of his hands burned off in the same scene where he loses an eye. There's description of what Cade's baby fingers look like as they are re-growing. It's...kinda gross. (<em>Dark Desires After Dusk</em>)</li><li><em>Sebastian</em>&nbsp;pulverizes most of his right arm during the Hie. He regenerates. (<em>No Rest For the Wicked</em>)</li><li><em>Lucia</em>&nbsp;peels all the skin off from her hand in order to free herself from some handcuffs. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li><li>In order to retrieve the ring from&nbsp;<em>La Dorada</em>&nbsp;, Lothaire cuts off her finger. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li><li><em>Lanthe</em>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<em>Carrow</em>&nbsp;cut off Fegley's hand so they can use his thumb to unlock their torques. He's later killed. (<em>Demon from the Dark</em>)</li><li>After receiving Lothaire's heart in a box,&nbsp;<em>Ellie</em>&nbsp;cuts off her middle finger and sends it to him. (Lothaire)</li><li><em>Chloe</em>'s shoulder is dislocated in the escape from her auction (MacRieve).</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Chest and Torso (7)</strong></p><ol><li>Omort severs&nbsp;<em>Rydstrom's</em>&nbsp;spine and punches through his torso in a fight. Sabine saves him and enlists Hag to help heal him. (<em>Kiss of a Demon King</em>)</li><li><em>Lucia</em>'s neck is broken. She regenerates. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li><li>On Torture Island,&nbsp;<em>Regin</em>,</li><li><em>MacRieve</em>,</li><li>and&nbsp;<em>Brandr</em>&nbsp;are vivisected. It's pretty terrible. (<em>Dreams of a Dark Warrior</em>)</li><li><em>Declan</em>'s skin is peeled off by the Neoptera as a child. (<em>Dreams of a Dark Warrior</em>)</li><li>Lothaire rips out his own heart and sends it to Ellie in a box. (<em>Lothaire</em>)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Head, Face, and Eyes (6)</strong></p><ol><li><em>Bowen</em>&nbsp;loses an eye and most of his forehead during the Hie. Mariketa has cursed him and he can't heal until he returns to her. (<em>Wicked Deeds on a Winter's Night</em>)</li><li><em>Cadeon</em>&nbsp;loses an eye and part of his forehead and hair when fighting. It all regenerates. (<em>Dark Desires After Dusk</em>)</li><li>During a rugby match,&nbsp;<em>Garreth</em>&nbsp;has his teeth knocked out and swallows them. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li><li><em>Lothaire</em>&nbsp;kicks out La Dorada's remaining eye and throws her over a cliff. (<em>Dreams of a Dark Warrior</em>)</li><li>In the Bloodroot Forest, the tree grows over&nbsp;<em>Lothaire</em>'s lips and tongue. (<em>Lothaire</em>)</li><li>After she gains her immortality,&nbsp;<em>Chloe</em>'s hair grows, but she cuts it off every morning. (MacRieve)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Horns (2)</strong></p><ol><li><em>Cadeon</em>&nbsp;cuts off his own horns to prove to Holly that he is worthy of being her mate. She tells him to let them grow back (<em>Dark Desires After Dusk</em>)</li><li><em>Malkolm</em>&nbsp;is captured by his enemies in Oblivion and taken to the city of Ash. The publicly cut off his horns and then intend to kill him, but Carrow saves him. (Demon from the Dark)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Legs and Feet (3)</strong></p><ol><li><em>Lachlain</em>&nbsp;tears off his own leg to reach Emma. He regenerates. (<em>A Hunger Like No Other</em>)</li><li><em>Mariketa</em>'s skull is fractured and her leg is torn from her body. She heals herself after Bowen lays on the ground. Ivy grows over her and heals her. (<em>Wicked Deeds on a Winter's Night</em>)</li><li><em>Thronos</em>&nbsp;is chasing Melananthe and loses a foot when a portal closes on it. (<em>Kiss of a Demon King</em>)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Beheading as a Romantic Gesture (4)</strong></p><ol><li>The first time Garreth spies&nbsp;<em>Lucia</em>, it's when she shoots an arrow and beheads a kobold. He notices that it's "a fantastical shot" and he's super into it. Later, he helps her pick up the head because he's a real gentleman like that. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li><li>Later in the book, they are under attack from vampires and Lucia asks him to help.&nbsp;<em>Garreth</em>&nbsp;promises to "give her their throats" and beheads two vampires. But she's upset about it because of a previous bad experience with cannibalism. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li><li><em>Malkolm</em>&nbsp;beheads men that attacked Carrow in Oblvion, and he throws them to prove he's a worthy mate. (<em>Demon from the Dark</em>)</li><li><em>Declan</em>&nbsp;fights and beheads several creatures as they escape Torture Island, including squeezing one dude so hard his eyes pop out and then he twists his head off. (<em>Dreams of a Dark Warrior</em>)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Beheading as a Non-Romantic Gesture</strong></p><ol><li>Ellie cuts off&nbsp;<em>Lothaire</em>'s head, leaving a slender 1/8 of an inch left. It was kind of an accident, but he deserved it. (Lothaire)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Maybe?</strong></p><ol><li>Does Garreth's losing his connection with his mortal soul count? (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li><li>When Soroya inhabited&nbsp;<em>Ellie</em>'s body, she subjected her to a full Brazilian wax. Ellie doesn't realize it's happened until she takes control of her body again. (<em>Lothaire</em>)</li></ol><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/4/29/12-macrieve]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5cc6da54085229d40ef5e4c7</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 01 May 2019 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/7fae545c-9b46-4d91-81b4-108662015f57/fatedmates-macrieve-final-rev4.mp3" length="88133239" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:24:30</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>25</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>25</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><itunes:summary>MacRieve is here and so is friend of the pod, Sierra Simone! We’re so excited to talk about The Full Kresley, what makes erotic romance, The Simone Scale™ of taboo romance, why MacRieve is so tough to read, why Sarah thinks it might be Kresley’s best book, and why Chloe is such a badass. There’s a lot of hysterical laughter, and Sarah is preparing for legal action.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-7fae545c-9b46-4d91-81b4-108662015f57.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>11.5: Sports Romance with Jenny Nordbak</title><itunes:title>11.5: Sports Romance Interstitial</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Are you a sports ball fan?! Do we have romances for you! We’ve got the brilliant Jenny Nordbak from The Wicked Wallflowers podcast back for a sports romance interstitial! Listen to us chat about why we love sports books, the alpha, competence porn and books by Kennedy Ryan, Tamsen Parker, and Naima Simone!</p><p>Next week, it’s (FOR REAL THIS TIME) MacRieve week with Sierra Simone! We’re so excited, and Sierra is the perfect guest for this sex-driven book! Get MacRieve at&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2IkUvcW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/macrieve-kresley-cole/1112033720?ean=9781451649925#/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/book/macrieve/id602339040?mt=11&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/macrieve" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or&nbsp;<a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781451649925" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local Indie</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome back to our guest&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JennyNordbak" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jenny Nordbak</a>&nbsp;from the Wicked Wallflowers podcast!</li><li>Everyone loves&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/dLdKU4JCYqg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a trip to the hairdresser</a>.</li><li>Here's a list of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.rwa.org/Online/News/2019/RWA_Announces_2019_Finalists.aspx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the RITA finalists</a>, and a link to&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenRitas" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen's new twitter account</a>&nbsp;which tracks her reviews of the finalists.</li><li>Author&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/bronniesway" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bronwen Fleetwood</a>&nbsp;crunched a bunch of&nbsp;<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jcpnlRSEPziq-PUHOIbO9tMA0TH6S6qDH1RrVZHa8oM/edit" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">RITA data from the past 20 years</a>, which is how we know there are more winners named Susan (and Elizabeth, Barbara, Karen, Jennifer, Ann, Jill, Linda...) than WoC finalists.</li><li>Famously, the&nbsp;<a href="https://electricliterature.com/how-bigots-invaded-the-hugo-awards/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hugo Awards also struggled</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.wired.com/2015/10/hugo-awards-controversy/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with recognizing the best books in their field</a>.</li><li>Here's what we are talking about when we talk about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/publisher-news/article/69653-why-publishing-is-so-white.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">how PoC are underrepresented in publishing</a>.</li><li>Um, actully Sarah,&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/UlyssesReader" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ulysses is a twitter thread</a>.</li><li>This week, Sarah told&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1120371492456472576" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a pretty solid competence porn story</a>&nbsp;about her neurosurgeon on Twitter.</li><li><a href="https://wickedwallflowersclub.com/2018/09/12/ep-45-kennedy-ryan-block-shot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kennedy Ryan has been on the Wicked Wallflowers podcast</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://wickedwallflowersclub.simplecast.fm/kennedy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twice</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/2556319780?book_show_action=false&amp;from_review_page=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Content warnings</a>&nbsp;for Long Shot.</li><li>Adriana Herrera, author and friend of the Pod, recently wrote a very important piece for the Smart Bitches about&nbsp;<a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/2018/09/domestic-violence-in-romance/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">how to portray sexual assualt in romance</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/10/us/seeing-abuse-and-a-pattern-too-familiar.html?referrer=" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Why the Ray Rice elevator video</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://slate.com/human-interest/2014/09/ray-rice-domestic-violence-janay-rice-is-standing-by-her-man-but-the-nfl-shouldn-t.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">is important</a>.</li><li>Jen's written about&nbsp;<a href="http://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2017/07/jens-review-in-skates-trouble.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the whiteness of hockey romances</a>&nbsp;for The Book Queen. Don't believe Jen? Back in 2012, commenter #11 left a plea for more hockey romances on&nbsp;<a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/2012/01/gs-vs-sta-sports-romances/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this Smart Bitches post</a>. I bet they are happy now.</li><li>Susan Elizabeth Phillip's&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2XKriwP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chicago Stars series</a>&nbsp;is a romance classic.</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/6M8szlSa-8o" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">There's no crying in baseball</a>.</li><li>Jen reviewed&nbsp;<a href="http://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2018/01/jens-review-seduction-on-slopes.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">all</a>&nbsp;of Tamsen Parker's&nbsp;<a href="http://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2018/02/jens-reviews-on-edge-of-scandal-and.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Snow and</a>&nbsp;<a href="http://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2018/03/jens-review-on-brink-of-passion.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ice Games</a>&nbsp;series.</li><li><a href="https://www.bustle.com/p/what-is-sex-like-in-the-olympic-village-heres-everything-we-know-8023623" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Olympics atheletes</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.elitedaily.com/p/how-much-sex-are-athletes-having-in-the-olympic-village-hint-its-a-lot-8004318" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">are busy</a>,&nbsp;<a href="http://time.com/5137272/condoms-at-olympics/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">y'all</a>.</li><li><a href="https://bacon.mybluemix.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">6 Degrees of Kevin Bacon</a>&nbsp;was an&nbsp;<a href="http://mentalfloss.com/article/81734/kevin-bacon-six-degrees-kevin-bacon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">amusing 90s pop culture game</a>.</li><li>Tennyson is a romance heroine and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/alfred-tennyson" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a famous poet</a>.</li><li>Listen to&nbsp;<a href="https://wickedwallflowersclub.simplecast.fm/naima" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Naima's interview</a>&nbsp;on the Wicked Wallflowers.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2GENUJ4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fumbled</a>&nbsp;is a new football romance by Alexa Martin, and it deals with&nbsp;<a href="https://concussionfoundation.org/CTE-resources/what-is-CTE?fbclid=IwAR3Er6sJYq_gX0NLyEelQBGLCjqJdU3Jzkb8CYMifTR9cdLhCVayLoyZL0g" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CTE</a>.</li><li>Get ready for&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2XI9fHx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MacRieve</a>.</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you a sports ball fan?! Do we have romances for you! We’ve got the brilliant Jenny Nordbak from The Wicked Wallflowers podcast back for a sports romance interstitial! Listen to us chat about why we love sports books, the alpha, competence porn and books by Kennedy Ryan, Tamsen Parker, and Naima Simone!</p><p>Next week, it’s (FOR REAL THIS TIME) MacRieve week with Sierra Simone! We’re so excited, and Sierra is the perfect guest for this sex-driven book! Get MacRieve at&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2IkUvcW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/macrieve-kresley-cole/1112033720?ean=9781451649925#/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/book/macrieve/id602339040?mt=11&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/macrieve" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or&nbsp;<a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781451649925" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local Indie</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome back to our guest&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JennyNordbak" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jenny Nordbak</a>&nbsp;from the Wicked Wallflowers podcast!</li><li>Everyone loves&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/dLdKU4JCYqg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a trip to the hairdresser</a>.</li><li>Here's a list of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.rwa.org/Online/News/2019/RWA_Announces_2019_Finalists.aspx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the RITA finalists</a>, and a link to&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenRitas" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen's new twitter account</a>&nbsp;which tracks her reviews of the finalists.</li><li>Author&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/bronniesway" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bronwen Fleetwood</a>&nbsp;crunched a bunch of&nbsp;<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jcpnlRSEPziq-PUHOIbO9tMA0TH6S6qDH1RrVZHa8oM/edit" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">RITA data from the past 20 years</a>, which is how we know there are more winners named Susan (and Elizabeth, Barbara, Karen, Jennifer, Ann, Jill, Linda...) than WoC finalists.</li><li>Famously, the&nbsp;<a href="https://electricliterature.com/how-bigots-invaded-the-hugo-awards/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hugo Awards also struggled</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.wired.com/2015/10/hugo-awards-controversy/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with recognizing the best books in their field</a>.</li><li>Here's what we are talking about when we talk about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/publisher-news/article/69653-why-publishing-is-so-white.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">how PoC are underrepresented in publishing</a>.</li><li>Um, actully Sarah,&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/UlyssesReader" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ulysses is a twitter thread</a>.</li><li>This week, Sarah told&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1120371492456472576" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a pretty solid competence porn story</a>&nbsp;about her neurosurgeon on Twitter.</li><li><a href="https://wickedwallflowersclub.com/2018/09/12/ep-45-kennedy-ryan-block-shot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kennedy Ryan has been on the Wicked Wallflowers podcast</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://wickedwallflowersclub.simplecast.fm/kennedy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twice</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/2556319780?book_show_action=false&amp;from_review_page=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Content warnings</a>&nbsp;for Long Shot.</li><li>Adriana Herrera, author and friend of the Pod, recently wrote a very important piece for the Smart Bitches about&nbsp;<a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/2018/09/domestic-violence-in-romance/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">how to portray sexual assualt in romance</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/10/us/seeing-abuse-and-a-pattern-too-familiar.html?referrer=" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Why the Ray Rice elevator video</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://slate.com/human-interest/2014/09/ray-rice-domestic-violence-janay-rice-is-standing-by-her-man-but-the-nfl-shouldn-t.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">is important</a>.</li><li>Jen's written about&nbsp;<a href="http://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2017/07/jens-review-in-skates-trouble.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the whiteness of hockey romances</a>&nbsp;for The Book Queen. Don't believe Jen? Back in 2012, commenter #11 left a plea for more hockey romances on&nbsp;<a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/2012/01/gs-vs-sta-sports-romances/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this Smart Bitches post</a>. I bet they are happy now.</li><li>Susan Elizabeth Phillip's&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2XKriwP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chicago Stars series</a>&nbsp;is a romance classic.</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/6M8szlSa-8o" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">There's no crying in baseball</a>.</li><li>Jen reviewed&nbsp;<a href="http://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2018/01/jens-review-seduction-on-slopes.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">all</a>&nbsp;of Tamsen Parker's&nbsp;<a href="http://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2018/02/jens-reviews-on-edge-of-scandal-and.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Snow and</a>&nbsp;<a href="http://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2018/03/jens-review-on-brink-of-passion.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ice Games</a>&nbsp;series.</li><li><a href="https://www.bustle.com/p/what-is-sex-like-in-the-olympic-village-heres-everything-we-know-8023623" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Olympics atheletes</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.elitedaily.com/p/how-much-sex-are-athletes-having-in-the-olympic-village-hint-its-a-lot-8004318" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">are busy</a>,&nbsp;<a href="http://time.com/5137272/condoms-at-olympics/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">y'all</a>.</li><li><a href="https://bacon.mybluemix.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">6 Degrees of Kevin Bacon</a>&nbsp;was an&nbsp;<a href="http://mentalfloss.com/article/81734/kevin-bacon-six-degrees-kevin-bacon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">amusing 90s pop culture game</a>.</li><li>Tennyson is a romance heroine and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/alfred-tennyson" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a famous poet</a>.</li><li>Listen to&nbsp;<a href="https://wickedwallflowersclub.simplecast.fm/naima" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Naima's interview</a>&nbsp;on the Wicked Wallflowers.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2GENUJ4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fumbled</a>&nbsp;is a new football romance by Alexa Martin, and it deals with&nbsp;<a href="https://concussionfoundation.org/CTE-resources/what-is-CTE?fbclid=IwAR3Er6sJYq_gX0NLyEelQBGLCjqJdU3Jzkb8CYMifTR9cdLhCVayLoyZL0g" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CTE</a>.</li><li>Get ready for&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2XI9fHx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MacRieve</a>.</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/4/23/115-sports-romance-interstitial]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5cbef02ee2c483c2f6089fa0</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2019 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/65c3fce4-2dce-44ea-a185-e303c42a6691/fated-mates-sports-final.mp3" length="53540451" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>53:02</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>24</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>24</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Are you a sports ball fan?! Do we have romances for you! We’ve got the brilliant Jenny Nordbak from The Wicked Wallflowers podcast back for a sports romance interstitial! Listen to us chat about why we love sports books, the alpha, competence porn and books by Kennedy Ryan, Tamsen Parker, and Naima Simone!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-65c3fce4-2dce-44ea-a185-e303c42a6691.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>Periods, Pizza, and Point of View: Another AMA with Jen &amp; Sarah</title><itunes:title>Periods, Pizza, and Point of View: Another AMA with Jen &amp; Sarah</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Jen and Sarah were together in the same city in the same room and just couldn’t pass up the chance to do a real-deal AMA while looking at each other’s faces! You asked, we answered…but get ready. There are some weird things in here (mainly said by Jen). </p><p>Next week, it’s MacRieve week with Sierra Simone! If you think things got weird this week, just you wait! Get MacRieve at&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2IkUvcW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/macrieve-kresley-cole/1112033720?ean=9781451649925#/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/book/macrieve/id602339040?mt=11&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/macrieve" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or&nbsp;<a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781451649925" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local Indie</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>At KissCon, Sarah and Sophie Jordan hosted a session called "Bananas Books" and friend of the pod&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/bandherbooks/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Beth</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/bandherbooks/status/1117101297679912960" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">took notes and listed all the titles</a>.</li><li>Jen's&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/bestfriendkelly" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Best Friend Kelly</a>&nbsp;runs&nbsp;<a href="https://www.resistancebuttons.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Resistance Button Club</a>, makes&nbsp;<a href="https://www.resistancebuttons.com/product-page/avatar-button" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">avatar buttons</a>, and also designs stickers and swag for Romancelandia.</li><li>You can see the signed copy of Wicked Abyss&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/Bv8ArTTA4Md/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">on our insta</a>.</li><li>Jen&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1080283758484430849" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wrote about making new TBR collections for her Kindle</a>&nbsp;on Twitter.</li><li>Soren is one of the characters in Tiffany Reisz's&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2IBn6eu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Original Sinners series</a>.</li><li>Check out the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/Immortalsafterdarkfanpage/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">IAD fan Facebook group</a>.</li><li>Check below in the photo array for the Kleypas books with&nbsp;<a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/talisman" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">talismans</a>.</li><li><a href="https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WomenInRefrigerators" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fridging</a>&nbsp;is a comics term, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vox.com/2018/5/24/17384064/deadpool-vanessa-fridging-women-refrigerators-comics-trope" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this explainer uses Deadpool 2</a>&nbsp;to explain the history of this problematic trope.</li><li><a href="https://thewritepractice.com/closer-characters/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Close 3rd person point of view</a>&nbsp;is very common in romance.</li><li><a href="https://blog.reedsy.com/unreliable-narrator/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Unreliable narrators</a>&nbsp;are very uncommon in romance.</li><li>Here's how to make a&nbsp;<a href="https://www.chicagotribune.com/dining/foodfocus/ct-chicago-style-hot-dog-recipe-story.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chicago-style hot dog</a>.</li><li>A quick primer on&nbsp;<a href="https://literaryterms.net/archetype/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">archetypes</a>.</li><li>Next week, we're talking about&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2GfWD39" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MacRieve</a>&nbsp;with the magnificent&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thesierrasimone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sierra Simone</a>.</li><li>Sarah's newest book,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2GjAFMu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brazen and the Beast</a>, comes out in July and you should pre-order it now!</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/4/15/115-ama-with-jen-amp-sarah </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jen and Sarah were together in the same city in the same room and just couldn’t pass up the chance to do a real-deal AMA while looking at each other’s faces! You asked, we answered…but get ready. There are some weird things in here (mainly said by Jen). </p><p>Next week, it’s MacRieve week with Sierra Simone! If you think things got weird this week, just you wait! Get MacRieve at&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2IkUvcW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/macrieve-kresley-cole/1112033720?ean=9781451649925#/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/book/macrieve/id602339040?mt=11&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/macrieve" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or&nbsp;<a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781451649925" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local Indie</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>At KissCon, Sarah and Sophie Jordan hosted a session called "Bananas Books" and friend of the pod&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/bandherbooks/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Beth</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/bandherbooks/status/1117101297679912960" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">took notes and listed all the titles</a>.</li><li>Jen's&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/bestfriendkelly" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Best Friend Kelly</a>&nbsp;runs&nbsp;<a href="https://www.resistancebuttons.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Resistance Button Club</a>, makes&nbsp;<a href="https://www.resistancebuttons.com/product-page/avatar-button" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">avatar buttons</a>, and also designs stickers and swag for Romancelandia.</li><li>You can see the signed copy of Wicked Abyss&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/Bv8ArTTA4Md/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">on our insta</a>.</li><li>Jen&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1080283758484430849" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wrote about making new TBR collections for her Kindle</a>&nbsp;on Twitter.</li><li>Soren is one of the characters in Tiffany Reisz's&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2IBn6eu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Original Sinners series</a>.</li><li>Check out the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/Immortalsafterdarkfanpage/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">IAD fan Facebook group</a>.</li><li>Check below in the photo array for the Kleypas books with&nbsp;<a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/talisman" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">talismans</a>.</li><li><a href="https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WomenInRefrigerators" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fridging</a>&nbsp;is a comics term, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vox.com/2018/5/24/17384064/deadpool-vanessa-fridging-women-refrigerators-comics-trope" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this explainer uses Deadpool 2</a>&nbsp;to explain the history of this problematic trope.</li><li><a href="https://thewritepractice.com/closer-characters/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Close 3rd person point of view</a>&nbsp;is very common in romance.</li><li><a href="https://blog.reedsy.com/unreliable-narrator/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Unreliable narrators</a>&nbsp;are very uncommon in romance.</li><li>Here's how to make a&nbsp;<a href="https://www.chicagotribune.com/dining/foodfocus/ct-chicago-style-hot-dog-recipe-story.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chicago-style hot dog</a>.</li><li>A quick primer on&nbsp;<a href="https://literaryterms.net/archetype/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">archetypes</a>.</li><li>Next week, we're talking about&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2GfWD39" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MacRieve</a>&nbsp;with the magnificent&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thesierrasimone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sierra Simone</a>.</li><li>Sarah's newest book,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2GjAFMu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brazen and the Beast</a>, comes out in July and you should pre-order it now!</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/4/15/115-ama-with-jen-amp-sarah </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/4/15/115-ama-with-jen-amp-sarah]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5cb4a7e9971a186a36a43e87</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2019 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/ad345ae7-5e78-4bef-ae78-dffb15a70ee3/fated-mates-ama2-final.mp3" length="51091007" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>48:33</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>23</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>23</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Jen and Sarah were together in the same city in the same room and just couldn’t pass up the chance to do a real-deal AMA while looking at each other’s faces! You asked, we answered…but get ready. There are some weird things in here (mainly said by Jen).</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-ad345ae7-5e78-4bef-ae78-dffb15a70ee3.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>11: Woof. Hope Your Headphones Didn&apos;t Fall Out! - Lothaire</title><itunes:title>Woof. Hope Your Headphones Didn&apos;t Fall Out! - Lothaire</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Lothaire is here! We’re so excited, we don’t know what to do with ourselves, but FYI, this is a longer episode than usual -- so get ready! We're talking morality chain romance, how Lothaire is a pure ass but incredibly funny, and how Ellie is pretty much the only mate he could ever have. Also, we love Nix &amp; Lothaire a lot.</p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review.</p><p>In two weeks, one of our favorite people, Sierra Simone, is joining us to talk about The Full Kresley, and MacRieve! It's going to be a great time, we promise. Get MacRieve at&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2IkUvcW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/macrieve-kresley-cole/1112033720?ean=9781451649925#/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/book/macrieve/id602339040?mt=11&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/macrieve" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or&nbsp;<a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781451649925" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local Indie</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Learn about&nbsp;<a href="https://everydayfeminism.com/2015/12/tone-policing-and-privilege/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tone-policing</a>&nbsp;so you won't make Jen mad.</li><li>Maybe we haven't recommended audiobook narrator&nbsp;<a href="https://www.audible.com/search?searchNarrator=Robert+Petkoff" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Robert Petkoff</a>&nbsp;to you enough.</li><li>Justine Eyre is the audiobook narrator who was nominated for an Audie for Sarah's book&nbsp;<a href="https://www.audible.com/pd/Never-Judge-a-Lady-by-Her-Cover-Audiobook/B00O82FBSW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Never Judge a Lady by her Cover</a>.</li><li><a href="http://www.lovebetweenthecovers.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love Between the Covers</a>&nbsp;is an amazing documentary about romance, and you might be able to find it on Netflix.</li><li>Everyone knows the difference between hardback and paperback books, but learn&nbsp;<a href="https://kunzonpublishing.com/2017/07/mass-market-paperback-books-vs-trade-paperback-books-a-guide-for-self-publishers/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the difference between mass-market and trade paperbacks</a>.</li><li>During the Lothaire bus tour,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.facebook.com/notes/kresley-cole/lothaire-tour/10150534554777920/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kresley wrote her fans this Facebook letter</a>&nbsp;about the experience.</li><li><a href="https://www.paulmarron.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Paul Marron</a>&nbsp;is a very handsome man.</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MoralityChain" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">morality chain</a>&nbsp;trope.</li><li>Other famous series with villains-turned-heroes include Lisa Kleypas's Wallflowers (<a href="https://amzn.to/2UrA71a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Devil in Winter</a>), Elizabeth Hoyt's Maiden Lane ([Duke of Sin])<a href="https://amzn.to/2FZQk3A" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">10</a>, and Sarah's Scandal &amp; Scoundrel (<a href="https://amzn.to/2FZQk3A" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Day of the Duchess</a>).</li><li>Italy discovers what happens when&nbsp;<a href="https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/rise-of-the-mammone-two-thirds-of-young-italian-adults-live-at-home-with-their-parents-10034641.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">everyone is raising a mammone</a>.</li><li>Lothaire breaks his life up into tasks, sort of like&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/0H7VtFG9F-c" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hugh Grant in About a Boy</a>.</li><li>When Robert Downey Jr. starred at Sherlock Holmes,&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/OS-Qd-jQFkM?t=90" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">he can forecast the moves his opponents will make in a fight</a>.</li><li>On Twitter, Melanie did a very thorough count of all the times&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/MelanieBee_/status/1100520968902955008" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lothaire punched a wall</a>.</li><li>Lothaire is very funny. Andie Christopher, friend of the pod, is very pro his cock slapping gnomes joke.</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/BPTOY8FrvNw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Old Friends</a>&nbsp;is a very sweet song by Simon &amp; Garfunkle, even if you aren't learning to play the ukulele.</li><li>Check out the Romance Sparks Joy read-along on&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/sparkjoyromance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/866361383718328/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Facebook</a>. Get&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2UstGL9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">M. Malone's Bad Blood</a>&nbsp;for the April 15th Read!</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2I9t6M4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MacRieve</a>&nbsp;will be next, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thesierrasimone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sierra Simone</a>&nbsp;will be joining us!</li></ul><br/><h2>Lost Limb Count</h2><p><strong>Arms and Hands (7)</strong></p><ol><li><em>Conrad</em>&nbsp;cuts off his own hand with a rusty axe so he escape the "witched" chains his brothers locked him in. (<em>Dark Needs at Night's Edge</em>)</li><li><em>Cadeon</em>&nbsp;has both of his hands burned off in the same scene where he loses an eye. There's description of what Cade's baby fingers look like as they are re-growing. It's...kinda gross. (<em>Dark Desires After Dusk</em>)</li><li><em>Sebastian</em>&nbsp;pulverizes most of his right arm during the Hie. He regenerates. (<em>No Rest For the Wicked</em>)</li><li><em>Lucia</em>&nbsp;peels all the skin off from her hand in order to free herself from some handcuffs. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li><li>In order to retrieve the ring from&nbsp;<em>La Dorada</em>&nbsp;, Lothaire cuts off her finger. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li><li><em>Lanthe</em>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<em>Carrow</em>&nbsp;cut off Fegley's hand so they can use his thumb to unlock their torques. He's later killed. (<em>Demon from the Dark</em>)</li><li>After receiving Lothaire's heart in a box,&nbsp;<em>Ellie</em>&nbsp;cuts off her middle finger and sends it to him. (Lothaire)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Chest and Torso (7)</strong></p><ol><li>Omort severs&nbsp;<em>Rydstrom's</em>&nbsp;spine and punches through his torso in a fight. Sabine saves him and enlists Hag to help heal him. (<em>Kiss of a Demon King</em>)</li><li><em>Lucia</em>'s neck is broken. She regenerates. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li><li>On Torture Island,&nbsp;<em>Regin</em>,</li><li><em>MacRieve</em>,</li><li>and&nbsp;<em>Brandr</em>&nbsp;are vivisected. It's pretty terrible. (<em>Dreams of a Dark Warrior</em>)</li><li><em>Declan</em>'s skin is peeled off by the Neoptera as a child. (<em>Dreams of a Dark Warrior</em>)</li><li>Lothaire rips out his own heart and sends it to Ellie in a box. (<em>Lothaire</em>)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Head, Face, and Eyes (5)</strong></p><ol><li><em>Bowen</em>&nbsp;loses an eye and most of his forehead during the Hie. Mariketa has cursed him and he can't heal until he returns to her. (<em>Wicked Deeds on a Winter's Night</em>)</li><li><em>Cadeon</em>&nbsp;loses an eye and part of his forehead and hair when fighting. It all regenerates. (<em>Dark Desires After Dusk</em>)</li><li>During a rugby match,&nbsp;<em>Garreth</em>&nbsp;has his teeth knocked out and swallows them. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li><li><em>Lothaire</em>&nbsp;kicks out La Dorada's remaining eye and throws her over a cliff. (<em>Dreams of a Dark Warrior</em>)</li><li>In the Bloodroot Forest, the tree grows over&nbsp;<em>Lothaire</em>'s lips and tongue. (<em>Lothaire</em>)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Horns (2)</strong></p><ol><li><em>Cadeon</em>&nbsp;cuts off his own horns to prove to Holly that he is worthy of being her mate. She tells him to let them grow back (<em>Dark Desires After Dusk</em>)</li><li><em>Malkolm</em>&nbsp;is captured by his enemies in Oblivion and taken to the city of Ash. The publicly cut off his horns and then intend to kill him, but Carrow saves him. (Demon from the Dark)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Legs and Feet (3)</strong></p><ol><li><em>Lachlain</em>&nbsp;tears off his own leg to reach Emma. He regenerates. (<em>A Hunger Like No Other</em>)</li><li><em>Mariketa</em>'s skull is fractured and her leg is torn from her body. She heals herself after Bowen lays on the ground. Ivy grows over her and heals her. (<em>Wicked Deeds on a Winter's Night</em>)</li><li><em>Thronos</em>&nbsp;is chasing Melananthe and loses a foot when a portal closes on it. (<em>Kiss of a Demon King</em>)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Beheading as a Romantic Gesture (4)</strong></p><ol><li>The first time Garreth spies&nbsp;<em>Lucia</em>, it's when she shoots an arrow and beheads a kobold. He notices that it's "a fantastical shot" and he's super into it. Later, he helps her pick up the head because he's a real gentleman like that. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li><li>Later in the book, they are under attack from vampires and Lucia asks him to help.&nbsp;<em>Garreth</em>&nbsp;promises to "give her their throats" and beheads two vampires. But she's upset about it because of a previous bad experience with cannibalism. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li><li><em>Malkolm</em>&nbsp;beheads men that attacked Carrow in Oblvion, and he throws them to prove he's a worthy mate. (<em>Demon from the Dark</em>)</li><li><em>Declan</em>&nbsp;fights and beheads several creatures as they...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lothaire is here! We’re so excited, we don’t know what to do with ourselves, but FYI, this is a longer episode than usual -- so get ready! We're talking morality chain romance, how Lothaire is a pure ass but incredibly funny, and how Ellie is pretty much the only mate he could ever have. Also, we love Nix &amp; Lothaire a lot.</p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review.</p><p>In two weeks, one of our favorite people, Sierra Simone, is joining us to talk about The Full Kresley, and MacRieve! It's going to be a great time, we promise. Get MacRieve at&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2IkUvcW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/macrieve-kresley-cole/1112033720?ean=9781451649925#/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/book/macrieve/id602339040?mt=11&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/macrieve" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or&nbsp;<a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781451649925" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from your local Indie</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Learn about&nbsp;<a href="https://everydayfeminism.com/2015/12/tone-policing-and-privilege/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tone-policing</a>&nbsp;so you won't make Jen mad.</li><li>Maybe we haven't recommended audiobook narrator&nbsp;<a href="https://www.audible.com/search?searchNarrator=Robert+Petkoff" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Robert Petkoff</a>&nbsp;to you enough.</li><li>Justine Eyre is the audiobook narrator who was nominated for an Audie for Sarah's book&nbsp;<a href="https://www.audible.com/pd/Never-Judge-a-Lady-by-Her-Cover-Audiobook/B00O82FBSW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Never Judge a Lady by her Cover</a>.</li><li><a href="http://www.lovebetweenthecovers.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Love Between the Covers</a>&nbsp;is an amazing documentary about romance, and you might be able to find it on Netflix.</li><li>Everyone knows the difference between hardback and paperback books, but learn&nbsp;<a href="https://kunzonpublishing.com/2017/07/mass-market-paperback-books-vs-trade-paperback-books-a-guide-for-self-publishers/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the difference between mass-market and trade paperbacks</a>.</li><li>During the Lothaire bus tour,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.facebook.com/notes/kresley-cole/lothaire-tour/10150534554777920/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kresley wrote her fans this Facebook letter</a>&nbsp;about the experience.</li><li><a href="https://www.paulmarron.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Paul Marron</a>&nbsp;is a very handsome man.</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MoralityChain" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">morality chain</a>&nbsp;trope.</li><li>Other famous series with villains-turned-heroes include Lisa Kleypas's Wallflowers (<a href="https://amzn.to/2UrA71a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Devil in Winter</a>), Elizabeth Hoyt's Maiden Lane ([Duke of Sin])<a href="https://amzn.to/2FZQk3A" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">10</a>, and Sarah's Scandal &amp; Scoundrel (<a href="https://amzn.to/2FZQk3A" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Day of the Duchess</a>).</li><li>Italy discovers what happens when&nbsp;<a href="https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/rise-of-the-mammone-two-thirds-of-young-italian-adults-live-at-home-with-their-parents-10034641.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">everyone is raising a mammone</a>.</li><li>Lothaire breaks his life up into tasks, sort of like&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/0H7VtFG9F-c" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hugh Grant in About a Boy</a>.</li><li>When Robert Downey Jr. starred at Sherlock Holmes,&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/OS-Qd-jQFkM?t=90" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">he can forecast the moves his opponents will make in a fight</a>.</li><li>On Twitter, Melanie did a very thorough count of all the times&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/MelanieBee_/status/1100520968902955008" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lothaire punched a wall</a>.</li><li>Lothaire is very funny. Andie Christopher, friend of the pod, is very pro his cock slapping gnomes joke.</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/BPTOY8FrvNw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Old Friends</a>&nbsp;is a very sweet song by Simon &amp; Garfunkle, even if you aren't learning to play the ukulele.</li><li>Check out the Romance Sparks Joy read-along on&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/sparkjoyromance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/866361383718328/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Facebook</a>. Get&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2UstGL9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">M. Malone's Bad Blood</a>&nbsp;for the April 15th Read!</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2I9t6M4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MacRieve</a>&nbsp;will be next, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thesierrasimone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sierra Simone</a>&nbsp;will be joining us!</li></ul><br/><h2>Lost Limb Count</h2><p><strong>Arms and Hands (7)</strong></p><ol><li><em>Conrad</em>&nbsp;cuts off his own hand with a rusty axe so he escape the "witched" chains his brothers locked him in. (<em>Dark Needs at Night's Edge</em>)</li><li><em>Cadeon</em>&nbsp;has both of his hands burned off in the same scene where he loses an eye. There's description of what Cade's baby fingers look like as they are re-growing. It's...kinda gross. (<em>Dark Desires After Dusk</em>)</li><li><em>Sebastian</em>&nbsp;pulverizes most of his right arm during the Hie. He regenerates. (<em>No Rest For the Wicked</em>)</li><li><em>Lucia</em>&nbsp;peels all the skin off from her hand in order to free herself from some handcuffs. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li><li>In order to retrieve the ring from&nbsp;<em>La Dorada</em>&nbsp;, Lothaire cuts off her finger. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li><li><em>Lanthe</em>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<em>Carrow</em>&nbsp;cut off Fegley's hand so they can use his thumb to unlock their torques. He's later killed. (<em>Demon from the Dark</em>)</li><li>After receiving Lothaire's heart in a box,&nbsp;<em>Ellie</em>&nbsp;cuts off her middle finger and sends it to him. (Lothaire)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Chest and Torso (7)</strong></p><ol><li>Omort severs&nbsp;<em>Rydstrom's</em>&nbsp;spine and punches through his torso in a fight. Sabine saves him and enlists Hag to help heal him. (<em>Kiss of a Demon King</em>)</li><li><em>Lucia</em>'s neck is broken. She regenerates. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li><li>On Torture Island,&nbsp;<em>Regin</em>,</li><li><em>MacRieve</em>,</li><li>and&nbsp;<em>Brandr</em>&nbsp;are vivisected. It's pretty terrible. (<em>Dreams of a Dark Warrior</em>)</li><li><em>Declan</em>'s skin is peeled off by the Neoptera as a child. (<em>Dreams of a Dark Warrior</em>)</li><li>Lothaire rips out his own heart and sends it to Ellie in a box. (<em>Lothaire</em>)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Head, Face, and Eyes (5)</strong></p><ol><li><em>Bowen</em>&nbsp;loses an eye and most of his forehead during the Hie. Mariketa has cursed him and he can't heal until he returns to her. (<em>Wicked Deeds on a Winter's Night</em>)</li><li><em>Cadeon</em>&nbsp;loses an eye and part of his forehead and hair when fighting. It all regenerates. (<em>Dark Desires After Dusk</em>)</li><li>During a rugby match,&nbsp;<em>Garreth</em>&nbsp;has his teeth knocked out and swallows them. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li><li><em>Lothaire</em>&nbsp;kicks out La Dorada's remaining eye and throws her over a cliff. (<em>Dreams of a Dark Warrior</em>)</li><li>In the Bloodroot Forest, the tree grows over&nbsp;<em>Lothaire</em>'s lips and tongue. (<em>Lothaire</em>)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Horns (2)</strong></p><ol><li><em>Cadeon</em>&nbsp;cuts off his own horns to prove to Holly that he is worthy of being her mate. She tells him to let them grow back (<em>Dark Desires After Dusk</em>)</li><li><em>Malkolm</em>&nbsp;is captured by his enemies in Oblivion and taken to the city of Ash. The publicly cut off his horns and then intend to kill him, but Carrow saves him. (Demon from the Dark)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Legs and Feet (3)</strong></p><ol><li><em>Lachlain</em>&nbsp;tears off his own leg to reach Emma. He regenerates. (<em>A Hunger Like No Other</em>)</li><li><em>Mariketa</em>'s skull is fractured and her leg is torn from her body. She heals herself after Bowen lays on the ground. Ivy grows over her and heals her. (<em>Wicked Deeds on a Winter's Night</em>)</li><li><em>Thronos</em>&nbsp;is chasing Melananthe and loses a foot when a portal closes on it. (<em>Kiss of a Demon King</em>)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Beheading as a Romantic Gesture (4)</strong></p><ol><li>The first time Garreth spies&nbsp;<em>Lucia</em>, it's when she shoots an arrow and beheads a kobold. He notices that it's "a fantastical shot" and he's super into it. Later, he helps her pick up the head because he's a real gentleman like that. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li><li>Later in the book, they are under attack from vampires and Lucia asks him to help.&nbsp;<em>Garreth</em>&nbsp;promises to "give her their throats" and beheads two vampires. But she's upset about it because of a previous bad experience with cannibalism. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li><li><em>Malkolm</em>&nbsp;beheads men that attacked Carrow in Oblvion, and he throws them to prove he's a worthy mate. (<em>Demon from the Dark</em>)</li><li><em>Declan</em>&nbsp;fights and beheads several creatures as they escape Torture Island, including squeezing one dude so hard his eyes pop out and then he twists his head off. (<em>Dreams of a Dark Warrior</em>)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Beheading as a Non-Romantic Gesture (2)</strong></p><ol><li>Ellie cuts off&nbsp;<em>Lothaire</em>'s head, leaving a slender 1/8 of an inch left. It was kind of an accident, but he deserved it. (Lothaire)</li><li>In the fight with Ruelle, MacRieve and Munro's mother is beheaded by a envenomed vampire boy. Their father then beheads the vampire. Ruelle is also killed. (MacRieve)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Maybe?</strong></p><ol><li>Does Garreth's losing his connection with his mortal soul count? (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li><li>When Soroya inhabited&nbsp;<em>Ellie</em>'s body, she subjected her to a full Brazilian wax. Ellie doesn't realize it's happened until she takes control of her body again. (<em>Lothaire</em>)</li></ol><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/4/8/11-lothaire </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/4/8/11-lothaire]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5cabf092eef1a1180f09cecd</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 10 Apr 2019 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/4251370c-3555-41ca-9a1e-e8f5ad8c7bdf/lothaire-final-revb.mp3" length="96367282" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:32:21</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>22</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>22</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Lothaire is here! We’re so excited, we don’t know what to do with ourselves, but FYI, this is a longer episode than usual -- so get ready! We&apos;re talking morality chain romance, how Lothaire is a pure ass but incredibly funny, and how Ellie is pretty much the only mate he could ever have. Also, we love Nix &amp; Lothaire a lot.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-4251370c-3555-41ca-9a1e-e8f5ad8c7bdf.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>10.5: Fake Engagement Romance</title><itunes:title>Fake Engagement Romance</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This one has to be a top-ten universal trope…were talking fake engagements! Listen to us chat about why ladies love a fantasy, the royal wedding, marriages of convenience, and books by Elle Kennedy, Talia Hibbert, Chelsea M. Cameron and Kate Clayborn!</p><p>GIRD THY LOINS, LOTHAIRE IS NEXT!</p><p>A jumbo episode with this jumbo jerk face dreamboat! Get Lothaire at <a href="https://amzn.to/2JHB5Bu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/lothaire-kresley-cole/1101909974#/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/book/lothaire/id427556595?mt=11&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/lothaire-3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or from <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781451683301" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local Indie</a>…and if you’re an audio lover, you are not going to want to miss Robert Petkoff on this one — Jen hearts it baaad.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li><a href="https://www.anacoqui.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ana Coqui</a>&nbsp;is&nbsp;<a href="https://www.anacoqui.com/what-is-rombklove-and-other-questions.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the force</a>&nbsp;behind&nbsp;<a href="https://bookriot.com/2017/07/01/starting-social-medias-biggest-romance-book-club-ana-coqui-on-rombklove/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#RomBkLove</a>.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/emmelnie/status/1064140588860284929" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The twitter thread</a>&nbsp;where Mary Lynn Nielsen perfectly described the fake engagement trope.</li><li>In historicals, the trope is usually called&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show/marriage-of-convenience" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">marriage of convenience</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Chelsea-M.-Cameron/e/B0079J3A8O?ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1&amp;qid=1554141559&amp;sr=1-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chelsea M. Cameron</a>&nbsp;vs.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Chelsea-Camaron/e/B00BM8FRJS?ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1&amp;qid=1554141517&amp;sr=8-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chelsea Cameron</a>.</li><li>Garrets are&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/1/18/8-pleasure-of-a-dark-prince" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">empirically great</a>&nbsp;romance heroes.</li><li>Kate Clayborn joined us for our&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/25-best-friends-sibling-romances-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Best Friend's Sibling</a>&nbsp;episode.</li><li>The royal wedding of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.royal.uk/royalwedding" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Harry &amp; Meghan</a>&nbsp;was&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/e35ttXQ5qu4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">so delightful</a>. We wish them many years of happiness.</li><li>New adult is a&nbsp;<a href="https://bookriot.com/2018/06/25/new-adult-fiction/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">genre descriptor</a>&nbsp;that not everyone loves, but there are&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/genres/new-adult" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lots of wonderful NA romances</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0160862/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">She's All That</a>&nbsp;is a 90s teen romance starring Freddie Prinz Jr. and Rachel Leigh Cook.</li><li>"That Six Pence None the Richer" song is called&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/k43-gEzIdm8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kiss Me</a>.</li><li>2 historicals that Sarah mentioned this week are&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2FQdL0t" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">His at Night</a>&nbsp;by Sherry Thomas and&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2FSlueB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pleasure for Pleasure</a>&nbsp;by Eloisa James.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2COyzn8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lothaire</a>&nbsp;is next. We can't even.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/4/1/105-fake-engagement-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This one has to be a top-ten universal trope…were talking fake engagements! Listen to us chat about why ladies love a fantasy, the royal wedding, marriages of convenience, and books by Elle Kennedy, Talia Hibbert, Chelsea M. Cameron and Kate Clayborn!</p><p>GIRD THY LOINS, LOTHAIRE IS NEXT!</p><p>A jumbo episode with this jumbo jerk face dreamboat! Get Lothaire at <a href="https://amzn.to/2JHB5Bu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/lothaire-kresley-cole/1101909974#/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/book/lothaire/id427556595?mt=11&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/lothaire-3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or from <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781451683301" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local Indie</a>…and if you’re an audio lover, you are not going to want to miss Robert Petkoff on this one — Jen hearts it baaad.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li><a href="https://www.anacoqui.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ana Coqui</a>&nbsp;is&nbsp;<a href="https://www.anacoqui.com/what-is-rombklove-and-other-questions.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the force</a>&nbsp;behind&nbsp;<a href="https://bookriot.com/2017/07/01/starting-social-medias-biggest-romance-book-club-ana-coqui-on-rombklove/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#RomBkLove</a>.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/emmelnie/status/1064140588860284929" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The twitter thread</a>&nbsp;where Mary Lynn Nielsen perfectly described the fake engagement trope.</li><li>In historicals, the trope is usually called&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show/marriage-of-convenience" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">marriage of convenience</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Chelsea-M.-Cameron/e/B0079J3A8O?ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1&amp;qid=1554141559&amp;sr=1-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chelsea M. Cameron</a>&nbsp;vs.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Chelsea-Camaron/e/B00BM8FRJS?ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1&amp;qid=1554141517&amp;sr=8-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chelsea Cameron</a>.</li><li>Garrets are&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/1/18/8-pleasure-of-a-dark-prince" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">empirically great</a>&nbsp;romance heroes.</li><li>Kate Clayborn joined us for our&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/25-best-friends-sibling-romances-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Best Friend's Sibling</a>&nbsp;episode.</li><li>The royal wedding of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.royal.uk/royalwedding" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Harry &amp; Meghan</a>&nbsp;was&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/e35ttXQ5qu4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">so delightful</a>. We wish them many years of happiness.</li><li>New adult is a&nbsp;<a href="https://bookriot.com/2018/06/25/new-adult-fiction/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">genre descriptor</a>&nbsp;that not everyone loves, but there are&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/genres/new-adult" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lots of wonderful NA romances</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0160862/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">She's All That</a>&nbsp;is a 90s teen romance starring Freddie Prinz Jr. and Rachel Leigh Cook.</li><li>"That Six Pence None the Richer" song is called&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/k43-gEzIdm8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kiss Me</a>.</li><li>2 historicals that Sarah mentioned this week are&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2FQdL0t" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">His at Night</a>&nbsp;by Sherry Thomas and&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2FSlueB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pleasure for Pleasure</a>&nbsp;by Eloisa James.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2COyzn8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lothaire</a>&nbsp;is next. We can't even.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/4/1/105-fake-engagement-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/4/1/105-fake-engagement-interstitial]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5ca1fb8ae79c7020b9174160</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2019 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/2f7463a8-bae9-44cc-bb48-ea68ac810a3f/fated-matesfake-engagement-final.mp3" length="42385682" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>41:32</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>22</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>22</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><itunes:summary>This one has to be a top-ten universal trope…were talking fake engagements! Listen to us chat about why ladies love a fantasy, the royal wedding, marriages of convenience, and books by Elle Kennedy, Talia Hibbert, Chelsea M. Cameron and Kate Clayborn!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-2f7463a8-bae9-44cc-bb48-ea68ac810a3f.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>10: Declan Chase is Kinda Trying: Dreams of a Dark Warrior</title><itunes:title>Declan Chase is Kinda Trying: Dreams of a Dark Warrior</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Vivisection is here, and it’s a whole lot! Regin the Radiant is on Torture Island, and just her luck, the guy running the whole show is a berserker reincarnate who she’s loved in five earlier lifetimes. Declan Chase is a highly controversial Kresley hero, and Dreams of a Dark Warrior is a book Sarah and Jen always skip on the reread…but this week, we’re talking about it and *gasp!* we’re kind of on #TeamDeclan by the end?! UP IS DOWN! </p><p>This episode, we’re digging into the way Kresley builds characters and lays the brickwork for the rest of the IAD series. We’re talking about torture, about childhood, about packing for the end of days, and about Lothaire’s Guide to Wooing Women. We’re joined by the wonderful Sarah Hawley, co-host of the Wicked Wallflowers podcast, and Declan-stan.</p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review. </p><p>In two weeks, strap in because Lothaire. Is. Here!!! We’re so excited we don’t know what to do with ourselves, but FYI, this is gonna be a double episode for SURE. Gird your loins. Get Lothaire at <a href="https://amzn.to/2JHB5Bu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/lothaire-kresley-cole/1101909974#/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/book/lothaire/id427556595?mt=11&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/lothaire-3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or from <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781451683301" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local Indie</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>In Salman Rushdie's novel&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2CGEc6L" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Haroun and the Sea of Stories</a>, juggling is often used as a symbol for storytelling.</li><li>There's not much better than a&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/71384.Trapped_in_a_Blizzard_Together_Romance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">snowed-in romance</a>. Or maybe&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/74870.Trouble_Marriage_on_the_Rocks_Romance_" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">marriage in trouble</a>&nbsp;is more your speed.</li><li>"<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1110195427805196288" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">That just happened</a>" is a quote from a very funny scene of a movie with Alec Baldwin called State and Main.</li><li>Mr. and Mrs. Smith and&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/557z4qc7kJs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the single sexiest hate fuck</a>&nbsp;ever filmed. /fans self</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/aRxs9-ImMoI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">heist movie slow walk</a>&nbsp;is iconic.</li><li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/27015.Villain_Gets_the_Girl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Villains as heroes</a>: hard to write, delicious to read.</li><li>Sarah Silverman&nbsp;<a href="https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2017/10/18/sarah-silverman-discusses-extremism-with-former-westboro-baptist-church-member/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">interviewed a woman who escaped from the cult of The Westboro Church</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.wikihow.com/Get-Revenge-on-Anyone" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Revenge is a good plot</a>.</li><li>Talia Hibbert&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/TaliaHibbert/status/1058702260748910592" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">had to quit this one</a>.</li><li>The Lord of the Rings&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Ring" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ring</a>&nbsp;is super fancy. And&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/Iz-8CSa9xj8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">super creepy.</a></li><li>Mike Rowe of Dirty Jobs fame&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/IRVdiHu1VCc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">has a TED talk</a>. Of course he does.</li><li>Welcome to&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/MsSarahHawley" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah Hawley</a>&nbsp;from&nbsp;<a href="https://wickedwallflowersclub.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Wicked Wallflowers Podcast</a></li><li><a href="https://www.starwars.com/databank/kylo-ren" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kylo Ren</a>&nbsp;is Han &amp; Leia's jerk son. Presumably he'll get a redemption arc, but the jury is out on whether he deserves it.</li><li><em>The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo</em>&nbsp;is&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2Yv6Ukv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a good book</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2Yq0Fhw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a great movie</a>. Don't at Sarah (MacLean).</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MoralityChain" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Morality Chain trope</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/katee_robert/status/1103764063765426176" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">some romance examples</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/307201.White_Satin" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">White Satin by Iris Johansen</a>. "I think it's time for beer," is what FDR said after while the country was deep in the Great Depression before he sent word to Congress that&nbsp;<a href="https://www.counterpunch.org/2009/06/26/fdr-s-real-defining-moment/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">he wanted to end Prohibition</a>.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2TBv1Kv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lothaire</a>&nbsp;is coming, and just clear your whole day for what will likely be a three hour podcast. Also, maybe you want to brush up on&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2CDzcjm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Odyssey</a>&nbsp;(free for Kindle).</li></ul><br/><p>A huge shout out to <a href="https://twitter.com/Heather__Pagan" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heather Pagan</a>, who helped us with medieval French and edits the <a href="https://twitter.com/ANDictionary" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Anglo Norman Dictionary</a>. Here’s the official translation of the Medieval French, along with some fascinating notes on historical swearing, which you all know <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/1/7/65-scotland-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">is our favorite</a>! </p><p>Go copulate with a pig - Va foutre un porcel! <em>(literally, go fuck a pig). Unless the joke is that they are being formal (ie. copulate and not fuck) in which case:</em> Va couvrir un porcel!</p><p>You defend that rampart female? - Femme / Dame, defendis tu le terrail?</p><p>To the death, prick*! - Jusqu'a / A la mort, ribaud! <em>OR</em> Jusqu'a / A la mort, paillard! <em>OR</em> Jusqu'a /A la mort, pautener!</p><p><em>* There are lots of words for penis/prick in Old French, but I don't have any evidence that they were used as insults (and that's a whole 'nother book about when we began to use genitalia as offensive words...) I've chosen to translate it with a bunch of words that mean 'jerk'. The words I used are all ones that end up being borrowed into English (ribald, pailliard, pautener) for someone who is base / rascally / a scoundrel / someone of low status etc.</em></p><p><em>Thoughts (or why you never ask an academic for a translation...) We actually don't know overly much about medieval swearing. What we know about language use during the period is based on what was written down, and what was written down (gross generalization ahead) tended not to be 1) direct / indirect speech or 2) of a less formal register. Nevertheless, we do have some record of what people said, and in some cases, how they would curse each other. A lot of these curses were be religious in nature - damning them, accusing them of bad faith etc. We have one amazing set of texts, referred to as </em><a href="https://theconversation.com/in-medieval-britain-if-you-wanted-to-get-ahead-you-had-to-speak-french-73164" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>the Manieres de Language</em></a><em>, which were an early type of phrase book for Englishmen wanting to learn French in the late fourteen century. These include my favourite section - insults! So this is mainly what the translation is based on - though insults of the time were a bit different. </em></p><p><em>Here are some from the phrase book (translated)</em>: You're lying, you evil bastard; Go hang yourself, you bastard; Go away you bloody son of a whore; You will pay!; Kiss my ass <em>(I am very pleased that this has been the eternal insult!)</em>; Kiss the devil's ass; Go to the devil!</p><h2>Lost Limb Count</h2><p><strong>Arms and Hands (6)</strong></p><ol><li><em>Conrad</em>&nbsp;cuts off his own hand with a rusty axe so he escape the "witched" chains his brothers locked him in. (<em>Dark Needs at Night's Edge</em>)</li><li><em>Cadeon</em>&nbsp;has both of his hands burned off in the same scene where he loses an eye. There's description of what Cade's baby fingers look like as they are re-growing. It's...kinda gross. (<em>Dark Desires After Dusk</em>)</li><li><em>Sebastian</em>&nbsp;pulverizes most of his right arm during the Hie. He regenerates. (<em>No Rest For the Wicked</em>)</li><li><em>Lucia</em>&nbsp;peels all the skin off from her hand in order to free herself from some handcuffs. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li><li>In order to retrieve the ring from&nbsp;<em>La Dorada</em>&nbsp;, Lothaire cuts off her finger. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li><li><em>Lanthe</em>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<em>Carrow</em>&nbsp;cut off Fegley's hand so they can use his thumb to unlock their torques. He's later killed. (<em>Demon from the Dark</em>)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Chest and Torso...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Vivisection is here, and it’s a whole lot! Regin the Radiant is on Torture Island, and just her luck, the guy running the whole show is a berserker reincarnate who she’s loved in five earlier lifetimes. Declan Chase is a highly controversial Kresley hero, and Dreams of a Dark Warrior is a book Sarah and Jen always skip on the reread…but this week, we’re talking about it and *gasp!* we’re kind of on #TeamDeclan by the end?! UP IS DOWN! </p><p>This episode, we’re digging into the way Kresley builds characters and lays the brickwork for the rest of the IAD series. We’re talking about torture, about childhood, about packing for the end of days, and about Lothaire’s Guide to Wooing Women. We’re joined by the wonderful Sarah Hawley, co-host of the Wicked Wallflowers podcast, and Declan-stan.</p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review. </p><p>In two weeks, strap in because Lothaire. Is. Here!!! We’re so excited we don’t know what to do with ourselves, but FYI, this is gonna be a double episode for SURE. Gird your loins. Get Lothaire at <a href="https://amzn.to/2JHB5Bu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/lothaire-kresley-cole/1101909974#/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/book/lothaire/id427556595?mt=11&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/lothaire-3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or from <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781451683301" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local Indie</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>In Salman Rushdie's novel&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2CGEc6L" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Haroun and the Sea of Stories</a>, juggling is often used as a symbol for storytelling.</li><li>There's not much better than a&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/71384.Trapped_in_a_Blizzard_Together_Romance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">snowed-in romance</a>. Or maybe&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/74870.Trouble_Marriage_on_the_Rocks_Romance_" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">marriage in trouble</a>&nbsp;is more your speed.</li><li>"<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1110195427805196288" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">That just happened</a>" is a quote from a very funny scene of a movie with Alec Baldwin called State and Main.</li><li>Mr. and Mrs. Smith and&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/557z4qc7kJs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the single sexiest hate fuck</a>&nbsp;ever filmed. /fans self</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/aRxs9-ImMoI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">heist movie slow walk</a>&nbsp;is iconic.</li><li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/27015.Villain_Gets_the_Girl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Villains as heroes</a>: hard to write, delicious to read.</li><li>Sarah Silverman&nbsp;<a href="https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2017/10/18/sarah-silverman-discusses-extremism-with-former-westboro-baptist-church-member/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">interviewed a woman who escaped from the cult of The Westboro Church</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.wikihow.com/Get-Revenge-on-Anyone" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Revenge is a good plot</a>.</li><li>Talia Hibbert&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/TaliaHibbert/status/1058702260748910592" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">had to quit this one</a>.</li><li>The Lord of the Rings&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Ring" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ring</a>&nbsp;is super fancy. And&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/Iz-8CSa9xj8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">super creepy.</a></li><li>Mike Rowe of Dirty Jobs fame&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/IRVdiHu1VCc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">has a TED talk</a>. Of course he does.</li><li>Welcome to&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/MsSarahHawley" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah Hawley</a>&nbsp;from&nbsp;<a href="https://wickedwallflowersclub.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Wicked Wallflowers Podcast</a></li><li><a href="https://www.starwars.com/databank/kylo-ren" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kylo Ren</a>&nbsp;is Han &amp; Leia's jerk son. Presumably he'll get a redemption arc, but the jury is out on whether he deserves it.</li><li><em>The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo</em>&nbsp;is&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2Yv6Ukv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a good book</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2Yq0Fhw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a great movie</a>. Don't at Sarah (MacLean).</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MoralityChain" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Morality Chain trope</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/katee_robert/status/1103764063765426176" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">some romance examples</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/307201.White_Satin" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">White Satin by Iris Johansen</a>. "I think it's time for beer," is what FDR said after while the country was deep in the Great Depression before he sent word to Congress that&nbsp;<a href="https://www.counterpunch.org/2009/06/26/fdr-s-real-defining-moment/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">he wanted to end Prohibition</a>.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2TBv1Kv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lothaire</a>&nbsp;is coming, and just clear your whole day for what will likely be a three hour podcast. Also, maybe you want to brush up on&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2CDzcjm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Odyssey</a>&nbsp;(free for Kindle).</li></ul><br/><p>A huge shout out to <a href="https://twitter.com/Heather__Pagan" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heather Pagan</a>, who helped us with medieval French and edits the <a href="https://twitter.com/ANDictionary" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Anglo Norman Dictionary</a>. Here’s the official translation of the Medieval French, along with some fascinating notes on historical swearing, which you all know <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/1/7/65-scotland-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">is our favorite</a>! </p><p>Go copulate with a pig - Va foutre un porcel! <em>(literally, go fuck a pig). Unless the joke is that they are being formal (ie. copulate and not fuck) in which case:</em> Va couvrir un porcel!</p><p>You defend that rampart female? - Femme / Dame, defendis tu le terrail?</p><p>To the death, prick*! - Jusqu'a / A la mort, ribaud! <em>OR</em> Jusqu'a / A la mort, paillard! <em>OR</em> Jusqu'a /A la mort, pautener!</p><p><em>* There are lots of words for penis/prick in Old French, but I don't have any evidence that they were used as insults (and that's a whole 'nother book about when we began to use genitalia as offensive words...) I've chosen to translate it with a bunch of words that mean 'jerk'. The words I used are all ones that end up being borrowed into English (ribald, pailliard, pautener) for someone who is base / rascally / a scoundrel / someone of low status etc.</em></p><p><em>Thoughts (or why you never ask an academic for a translation...) We actually don't know overly much about medieval swearing. What we know about language use during the period is based on what was written down, and what was written down (gross generalization ahead) tended not to be 1) direct / indirect speech or 2) of a less formal register. Nevertheless, we do have some record of what people said, and in some cases, how they would curse each other. A lot of these curses were be religious in nature - damning them, accusing them of bad faith etc. We have one amazing set of texts, referred to as </em><a href="https://theconversation.com/in-medieval-britain-if-you-wanted-to-get-ahead-you-had-to-speak-french-73164" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>the Manieres de Language</em></a><em>, which were an early type of phrase book for Englishmen wanting to learn French in the late fourteen century. These include my favourite section - insults! So this is mainly what the translation is based on - though insults of the time were a bit different. </em></p><p><em>Here are some from the phrase book (translated)</em>: You're lying, you evil bastard; Go hang yourself, you bastard; Go away you bloody son of a whore; You will pay!; Kiss my ass <em>(I am very pleased that this has been the eternal insult!)</em>; Kiss the devil's ass; Go to the devil!</p><h2>Lost Limb Count</h2><p><strong>Arms and Hands (6)</strong></p><ol><li><em>Conrad</em>&nbsp;cuts off his own hand with a rusty axe so he escape the "witched" chains his brothers locked him in. (<em>Dark Needs at Night's Edge</em>)</li><li><em>Cadeon</em>&nbsp;has both of his hands burned off in the same scene where he loses an eye. There's description of what Cade's baby fingers look like as they are re-growing. It's...kinda gross. (<em>Dark Desires After Dusk</em>)</li><li><em>Sebastian</em>&nbsp;pulverizes most of his right arm during the Hie. He regenerates. (<em>No Rest For the Wicked</em>)</li><li><em>Lucia</em>&nbsp;peels all the skin off from her hand in order to free herself from some handcuffs. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li><li>In order to retrieve the ring from&nbsp;<em>La Dorada</em>&nbsp;, Lothaire cuts off her finger. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li><li><em>Lanthe</em>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<em>Carrow</em>&nbsp;cut off Fegley's hand so they can use his thumb to unlock their torques. He's later killed. (<em>Demon from the Dark</em>)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Chest and Torso (5)</strong></p><ol><li>Omort severs&nbsp;<em>Rydstrom's</em>&nbsp;spine and punches through his torso in a fight. Sabine saves him and enlists Hag to help heal him. (<em>Kiss of a Demon King</em>)</li><li><em>Lucia</em>'s neck is broken. She regenerates. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li><li>On Torture Island,&nbsp;<em>Regin</em>,</li><li><em>MacRieve</em>,</li><li>and&nbsp;<em>Brandr</em>&nbsp;are vivisected. It's pretty terrible. (<em>Dreams of a Dark Warrior</em>)</li><li>Declan's skin is peeled off by the Neoptera as a child. (<em>Dreams of a Dark Warrior</em>)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Face and Eyes (4)</strong></p><ol><li><em>Bowen</em>&nbsp;loses an eye and most of his forehead during the Hie. Mariketa has cursed him and he can't heal until he returns to her. (<em>Wicked Deeds on a Winter's Night</em>)</li><li><em>Cadeon</em>&nbsp;loses an eye and part of his forehead and hair when fighting. It all regenerates. (<em>Dark Desires After Dusk</em>)</li><li>During a rugby match,&nbsp;<em>Garreth</em>&nbsp;has his teeth knocked out and swallows them. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li><li><em>Lothaire</em>&nbsp;kicks out La Dorada's remaining eye and throws her over a cliff. (<em>Dreams of a Dark Warrior</em>)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Horns (2)</strong></p><ol><li><em>Cadeon</em>&nbsp;cuts off his own horns to prove to Holly that he is worthy of being her mate. She tells him to let them grow back (<em>Dark Desires After Dusk</em>)</li><li><em>Malkolm</em>&nbsp;is captured by his enemies in Oblivion and taken to the city of Ash. The publicly cut off his horns and then intend to kill him, but Carrow saves him. (Demon from the Dark)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Legs and Feet (3)</strong></p><ol><li><em>Lachlain</em>&nbsp;tears off his own leg to reach Emma. He regenerates. (<em>A Hunger Like No Other</em>)</li><li><em>Mariketa</em>'s skull is fractured and her leg is torn from her body. She heals herself after Bowen lays on the ground. Ivy grows over her and heals her. (<em>Wicked Deeds on a Winter's Night</em>)</li><li><em>Thronos</em>&nbsp;is chasing Melananthe and loses a foot when a portal closes on it. (<em>Kiss of a Demon King</em>)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Beheading as a Romantic Gesture (4)</strong></p><ol><li>The first time Garreth spies&nbsp;<em>Lucia</em>, it's when she shoots an arrow and beheads a kobold. He notices that it's "a fantastical shot" and he's super into it. Later, he helps her pick up the head because he's a real gentleman like that. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li><li>Later in the book, they are under attack from vampires and Lucia asks him to help.&nbsp;<em>Garreth</em>&nbsp;promises to "give her their throats" and beheads two vampires. But she's upset about it because of a previous bad experience with cannibalism. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li><li><em>Malkolm</em>&nbsp;beheads men that attacked Carrow in Oblvion, and he throws them to prove he's a worthy mate. (<em>Demon from the Dark</em>)</li><li><em>Declan</em>&nbsp;fights and beheads several creatures as they escape Torture Island, including squeezing one dude so hard his eyes pop out and then he twists his head off. (<em>Dreams of a Dark Warrior</em>)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Maybe?</strong></p><ol><li>Does Garreth's losing his connection with his mortal soul count? (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li></ol><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/2/11/10-dreams-of-a-dark-warrior </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/2/11/10-dreams-of-a-dark-warrior]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5c6241b2eef1a1fc61e6a78d</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 27 Mar 2019 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/5c5b29a0-30f9-4c6c-bcde-1d601415f2b0/fated-mates-book-10-final.mp3" length="99033788" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:36:05</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>22</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>22</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Mr. Vivisection is here, and it’s a whole lot! Regin the Radiant is on Torture Island, and just her luck, the guy running the whole show is a berserker reincarnate who she’s loved in five earlier lifetimes. Declan Chase is a highly controversial Kresley hero, and Dreams of a Dark Warrior is a book Sarah and Jen always skip on the reread…but this week, we’re talking about it and *gasp!* we’re kind of on #TeamDeclan by the end?! UP IS DOWN! 

This episode, we’re digging into the way Kresley builds characters and lays the brickwork for the rest of the IAD series. We’re talking about torture, about childhood, about packing for the end of days, and about Lothaire’s Guide to Wooing Women. We’re joined by the wonderful Sarah Hawley, co-host of the Wicked Wallflowers podcast, and Declan-stan.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-5c5b29a0-30f9-4c6c-bcde-1d601415f2b0.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>9.5: Food Romance</title><itunes:title>Food Romance</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This week, Adriana Herrera joins us again to talk food romances and Sarah is <strong>very</strong> excited. Adriana’s debut food romance, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/American-Dreamer-Dreamers-Book-1-ebook/dp/B07KN6G9CM/ref=as_li_ss_tl?crid=JLNU6JV5YGM0&amp;keywords=american+dreamer+adriana+herrera&amp;qid=1553018569&amp;s=gateway&amp;sprefix=American+dreamer+ad,aps,186&amp;sr=8-1&amp;linkCode=sl1&amp;tag=fatedmates-20&amp;linkId=bc639fd288a37627d88f06feef278e2d&amp;language=en_US" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>American Dreamer</em></a>, is on shelves now. We talk about the book, the pull of the food romance novel, and why nourishment is sexy. Also, Sarah basically name checks her whole favorites shelf.</p><p>Next week, it’s full Torture Island with what is probably the most controversial of the IAD books—Dreams of a Dark Warrior. Declan Chase—torturer extraordinaire is our <em>hero</em>, Regin the Radiant is the woman he’s been trying to love for a millennium, and we’re full bananas in the lead up to Lothaire! Get ready! Get DoaDW at <a href="https://amzn.to/2T2o9FA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dreams-of-a-dark-warrior-kresley-cole/1102789813?ean=9781439177013#/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/book/dreams-of-a-dark-warrior/id399101097?mt=11&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/dreams-of-a-dark-warrior" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or from <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781439136805" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local Indie</a>. Don’t forget that the Audible versions of IAD are on sale right now -- and WORTH EVERY PENNY!&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2FqmFAv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Listen on Audio</a>!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome back&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/ladrianaherrera" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adriana</a>, and if you didn't hear her on our&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/3-something-we-said-wicked-deeds-on-a-winters-night" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wicked Deeds on a Winter's Night</a>&nbsp;episode, you should check it out.</li><li>The concept of love languages comes from 1995 self-help book&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Five_Love_Languages" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Five Love Languages</em></a>, by Gary Chapman. It's a little soft for us. We prefer&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/new-love-languages" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this additional list of love languages</a>, from McSweeney's.</li><li>Adriana talked about her grandmother bringing a pot of Sancocho from the DR to family in New York, and here's&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/ladrianaherrera/status/1075144287464112135" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a twitter thread where Adriana makes a pot with a friend</a>.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2JxYtB8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">American Dreamer</a>&nbsp;came out at the beginning of the month, and the sequel&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2ObzhPE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">American Fairytale</a>&nbsp;comes out in April. Find American Dreamer at&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2JxYtB8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/american-dreamer-adriana-herrera/1129908341?ean=9781488051234" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/book/american-dreamer/id1443088288?mt=11&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>&nbsp;or&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/american-dreamer-5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>.</li><li>The dull thuds you're hearing in this episode are Sarah's phone falling off her desk. She is convinced her phone is defective because it falls off flat surfaces every day. She has fantasies of finding&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jony_Ive" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jony Ive</a>'s phone number and texting him lists of everything it falls off every day.</li><li>Next time you're in Brooklyn, you should visit the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.smorgasburg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Smorgasburg</a>.</li><li>Find a&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Michelin_3-star_restaurants" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Michelin star restaurant</a>&nbsp;to try if you're so inclined.</li><li>Just kidding about the&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soylent_Green" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Soylent Green</a>&nbsp;thing. Really.</li><li><a href="http://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2018/03/interview-with-mia-hopkins-giveaway.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen interviewed Mia Hopkins</a>&nbsp;last year when Thirsty came out.</li><li>The song Jude was singing was&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/DkFJE8ZdeG8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Latinoamerica by Calle 13</a>. You, too, can find&nbsp;<a href="https://www.npr.org/series/534681404/best-music-of-2018" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">great music on NPR</a>.</li><li><a href="https://bookriot.com/2017/04/10/if-it-doesnt-have-an-hea-or-hfn-its-not-romance/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A romance has to have an HEA or HFN</a>, but a love story doesn't. Don't at us.</li><li>An interesting think piece from The Common Reader about&nbsp;<a href="https://commonreader.wustl.edu/competence-porn-for-the-rest-of-us/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">how we view competence in men and women</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/3/18/95-foodie-romance-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Adriana Herrera joins us again to talk food romances and Sarah is <strong>very</strong> excited. Adriana’s debut food romance, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/American-Dreamer-Dreamers-Book-1-ebook/dp/B07KN6G9CM/ref=as_li_ss_tl?crid=JLNU6JV5YGM0&amp;keywords=american+dreamer+adriana+herrera&amp;qid=1553018569&amp;s=gateway&amp;sprefix=American+dreamer+ad,aps,186&amp;sr=8-1&amp;linkCode=sl1&amp;tag=fatedmates-20&amp;linkId=bc639fd288a37627d88f06feef278e2d&amp;language=en_US" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>American Dreamer</em></a>, is on shelves now. We talk about the book, the pull of the food romance novel, and why nourishment is sexy. Also, Sarah basically name checks her whole favorites shelf.</p><p>Next week, it’s full Torture Island with what is probably the most controversial of the IAD books—Dreams of a Dark Warrior. Declan Chase—torturer extraordinaire is our <em>hero</em>, Regin the Radiant is the woman he’s been trying to love for a millennium, and we’re full bananas in the lead up to Lothaire! Get ready! Get DoaDW at <a href="https://amzn.to/2T2o9FA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dreams-of-a-dark-warrior-kresley-cole/1102789813?ean=9781439177013#/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/book/dreams-of-a-dark-warrior/id399101097?mt=11&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/dreams-of-a-dark-warrior" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or from <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781439136805" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local Indie</a>. Don’t forget that the Audible versions of IAD are on sale right now -- and WORTH EVERY PENNY!&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2FqmFAv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Listen on Audio</a>!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Welcome back&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/ladrianaherrera" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adriana</a>, and if you didn't hear her on our&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/3-something-we-said-wicked-deeds-on-a-winters-night" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wicked Deeds on a Winter's Night</a>&nbsp;episode, you should check it out.</li><li>The concept of love languages comes from 1995 self-help book&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Five_Love_Languages" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Five Love Languages</em></a>, by Gary Chapman. It's a little soft for us. We prefer&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/new-love-languages" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this additional list of love languages</a>, from McSweeney's.</li><li>Adriana talked about her grandmother bringing a pot of Sancocho from the DR to family in New York, and here's&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/ladrianaherrera/status/1075144287464112135" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a twitter thread where Adriana makes a pot with a friend</a>.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2JxYtB8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">American Dreamer</a>&nbsp;came out at the beginning of the month, and the sequel&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2ObzhPE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">American Fairytale</a>&nbsp;comes out in April. Find American Dreamer at&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2JxYtB8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/american-dreamer-adriana-herrera/1129908341?ean=9781488051234" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/book/american-dreamer/id1443088288?mt=11&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>&nbsp;or&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/american-dreamer-5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>.</li><li>The dull thuds you're hearing in this episode are Sarah's phone falling off her desk. She is convinced her phone is defective because it falls off flat surfaces every day. She has fantasies of finding&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jony_Ive" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jony Ive</a>'s phone number and texting him lists of everything it falls off every day.</li><li>Next time you're in Brooklyn, you should visit the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.smorgasburg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Smorgasburg</a>.</li><li>Find a&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Michelin_3-star_restaurants" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Michelin star restaurant</a>&nbsp;to try if you're so inclined.</li><li>Just kidding about the&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soylent_Green" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Soylent Green</a>&nbsp;thing. Really.</li><li><a href="http://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2018/03/interview-with-mia-hopkins-giveaway.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen interviewed Mia Hopkins</a>&nbsp;last year when Thirsty came out.</li><li>The song Jude was singing was&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/DkFJE8ZdeG8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Latinoamerica by Calle 13</a>. You, too, can find&nbsp;<a href="https://www.npr.org/series/534681404/best-music-of-2018" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">great music on NPR</a>.</li><li><a href="https://bookriot.com/2017/04/10/if-it-doesnt-have-an-hea-or-hfn-its-not-romance/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A romance has to have an HEA or HFN</a>, but a love story doesn't. Don't at us.</li><li>An interesting think piece from The Common Reader about&nbsp;<a href="https://commonreader.wustl.edu/competence-porn-for-the-rest-of-us/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">how we view competence in men and women</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/3/18/95-foodie-romance-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/3/18/95-foodie-romance-interstitial]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5c90438024a6949d69ecec4e</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2019 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/87e6d024-b89c-4a49-a54b-89627d050786/fated-mates-food-final.mp3" length="44567801" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>42:21</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>21</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>21</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><itunes:summary>This week, Adriana Herrera joins us again to talk food romances and Sarah is very excited. Adriana’s debut food romance, American Dreamer, is on shelves now. We talk about the book, the pull of the food romance novel, and why nourishment is sexy. Also, Sarah basically name checks her whole favorites shelf.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-87e6d024-b89c-4a49-a54b-89627d050786.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>9: Torture Island!!! - Demon from the Dark</title><itunes:title>Torture Island!!! - Demon from the Dark</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Torture Island is here and we could not be more excited! Demon from the Dark is Jen’s favorite book in the series, because she loves poor, broken Malkom, the vemon with a heart of gold, and his fated mate, Carrow, our second witch, whose powers come from other people’s joy. </p><p>This episode, we’re digging into the worldbuilding of the second movement of IAD — Torture Island. We’re talking about innocence and how it is a great motivator, what saves a heroine from being unlikeable, why bathing is sexy, and how we really would like it if more men offered up the heads of our enemies as tribute. As always, there’s a lost-limb count and Lothaire-Watch!</p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review. </p><p>In two weeks, get ready for the most (we think?) controversial of the IAD books — Dreams of a Dark Warrior, when Declan Chase, unknowing berserker and magister of Torture Island, gets paired with Regin the Radiant. Get DoaDW at <a href="https://amzn.to/2T2o9FA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dreams-of-a-dark-warrior-kresley-cole/1102789813?ean=9781439177013#/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/book/dreams-of-a-dark-warrior/id399101097?mt=11&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/dreams-of-a-dark-warrior" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or from <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781439136805" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local Indie</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>In the 1976 movie Rocky, one of the things he consumes during training in a&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/NhkdLHSKo9s" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">glassful of raw eggs</a>.</li><li>Jen loves books&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1036047846905135106" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">about nuclear weapons and nuclear disasters</a>, and the mindset of the Order is very much that of&nbsp;<a href="https://undark.org/article/contemplating-nuclear-armageddon-war/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">mutually assured destruction</a>&nbsp;during the Cold War.</li><li>In&nbsp;<a href="https://www.eonline.com/videos/285608/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-premiered-22-years-ago" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Buffy</a>, it was called&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Initiative_(Buffy_the_Vampire_Slayer_episode)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Initiative</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://screenrant.com/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-angel-relationship-secrets-facts-trivia/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Angel</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thecut.com/2018/12/i-think-about-this-a-lot-riley-finn-leaving-buffy.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Riley</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/alright-lets-talk-about-spike-buffy-and-that-scene" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spike</a>&nbsp;were her boyfriends on the show, but in the comic&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satsu_(Buffy_the_Vampire_Slayer)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">there are other lovers</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.inverse.com/article/33753-brain-changes-health-25-quarter-life-crisis-neurology" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Your brain isn't fully cooked</a>&nbsp;until you're 25!</li><li><a href="https://www.duolingo.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Duolingo</a>&nbsp;helps you learn languages, but if you're in a hurry just drink down somebody's blood.</li><li>Sarah's friend Natalie Parker's book is called&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2VTWyIF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Seafire</a>&nbsp;and it has&nbsp;<a href="https://images.gr-assets.com/misc/1552087251-1552087251_goodreads_misc.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the most gorgeous cover</a>.</li><li>Book Riot makes the case for&nbsp;<a href="https://bookriot.com/2018/10/03/horror-romance/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a Romantic Horror subgenre</a>, and Victoria Helen Stone wrote about&nbsp;<a href="https://crimereads.com/are-suspense-and-romance-really-so-different/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the relationship between romance and suspense</a>.</li><li>Some information from Pew about&nbsp;<a href="http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2018/05/22/demographic-and-economic-trends-in-urban-suburban-and-rural-communities/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">rural vs urban living in America</a>.</li><li><a href="http://mentalfloss.com/article/82012/10-thrilling-facts-about-adventures-babysitting" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adventures in Babysitting</a>&nbsp;is an 80s movie all about the horrors of some kids and their babysitter getting into trouble in the big, bad city of Chicago (or, as Jenny Holiday &amp;&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1065028871303675904" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen call it</a>:&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/jennyholi/status/1075392538524168193" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dirty Toronto</a>).</li><li>You can tell a lot about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.tuw.edu/content/health/child-rearing-practices-different-cultures/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a culture by its parenting</a>.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pygmalion_(play)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pygmalion</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encino_Man" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Encino Man</a>.</li><li>Some directions for any&nbsp;<a href="http://naturalwitchlife.blogspot.com/2013/05/how-to-make-talismans-and-amulets.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tailsman</a>-making endeavors.</li><li>Lore parenting tips aside, Jen wrote once about&nbsp;<a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/2018/07/talk-kids-sex/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">how human parents can talk to their kids about sex</a>.</li><li>Maybe&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/28_Days_Later" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">28 Days Later</a>&nbsp;isn't the best metaphor for IAD, but it's a scary movie.</li><li>Jen loves it&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/blog/rombklove-day-3-groveling" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">when heroes grovel</a>.</li><li>A vemon is a vampire/demon hybrid;&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venom_(2018_film)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Venom</a>&nbsp;is a Tom Hardy movie.</li><li>If Jen knew photoshop, she'd be putting Malkolm inside a&nbsp;<a href="http://mentalfloss.com/article/68100/14-things-you-might-not-know-about-sweet-valley-high" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sweet Valley High</a>&nbsp;circle...&nbsp;<a href="http://witanddelight.com/content/uploads//2017/10/svh001-636x1024.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Demon Love</a>!</li><li><a href="https://i.chzbgr.com/full/8985263872/h820DBA7F/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Yao Ming is very tall compared to Kevin Hart</a>, but&nbsp;<a href="https://www.eonline.com/news/1017860/jason-momoa-and-lisa-bonet-do-date-night-in-matching-ensembles-at-2019-oscars" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jason Momoa and Lisa Bonet</a>&nbsp;are much better fancasting for Malkolm and Carrow.</li><li>Friend of the Pod&nbsp;<a href="https://wickedwallflowersclub.com/2019/03/06/ep-72/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adriana Herrera was on our sister podcast Wicked Wallflowers</a>&nbsp;last week.</li></ul><br/><h2>Lost Limb Count</h2><p><strong>Arms and Hands (6)</strong></p><ol><li><em>Conrad</em>&nbsp;cuts off his own hand with a rusty axe so he escape the "witched" chains his brothers locked him in. (<em>Dark Needs at Night's Edge</em>)</li><li><em>Cadeon</em>&nbsp;has both of his hands burned off in the same scene where he loses an eye. There's description of what Cade's baby fingers look like as they are re-growing. It's...kinda gross. (<em>Dark Desires After Dusk</em>)</li><li><em>Sebastian</em>&nbsp;pulverizes most of his right arm during the Hie. He regenerates. (<em>No Rest For the Wicked</em>)</li><li><em>Lucia</em>&nbsp;peels all the skin off from her hand in order to free herself from some handcuffs. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li><li>In order to retrieve the ring from&nbsp;<em>La Dorada</em>&nbsp;, Lothaire cuts off her finger. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li><li><em>Lanthe</em>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<em>Carrow</em>&nbsp;cut off Fegley's hand so they can use his thumb to unlock their torques. He's later killed. (<em>Demon from the Dark</em>)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Chest and Torso (2)</strong></p><ol><li>Omort severs&nbsp;<em>Rydstrom's</em>&nbsp;spine and punches through his torso in a fight. Sabine saves him and enlists Hag to help heal him. (<em>Kiss of a Demon King</em>)</li><li><em>Lucia</em>'s neck is broken. She regenerates. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Face and Eyes (3)</strong></p><ol><li><em>Bowen</em>&nbsp;loses an eye and most of his forehead during the Hie. Mariketa has cursed him and he can't heal until he returns to her. (<em>Wicked Deeds on a Winter's Night</em>)</li><li><em>Cadeon</em>&nbsp;loses an eye and part of his forehead and hair when fighting. It all regenerates. (<em>Dark Desires After Dusk</em>)</li><li>During a rugby match,&nbsp;<em>Garreth</em>&nbsp;has his teeth knocked out and swallows them. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Horns (2)</strong></p><ol><li><em>Cadeon</em>&nbsp;cuts off his own horns to prove to Holly that he is worthy of being her mate. She tells him to let them grow back (<em>Dark Desires After Dusk</em>)</li><li><em>Malkolm</em>&nbsp;is captured by...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Torture Island is here and we could not be more excited! Demon from the Dark is Jen’s favorite book in the series, because she loves poor, broken Malkom, the vemon with a heart of gold, and his fated mate, Carrow, our second witch, whose powers come from other people’s joy. </p><p>This episode, we’re digging into the worldbuilding of the second movement of IAD — Torture Island. We’re talking about innocence and how it is a great motivator, what saves a heroine from being unlikeable, why bathing is sexy, and how we really would like it if more men offered up the heads of our enemies as tribute. As always, there’s a lost-limb count and Lothaire-Watch!</p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review. </p><p>In two weeks, get ready for the most (we think?) controversial of the IAD books — Dreams of a Dark Warrior, when Declan Chase, unknowing berserker and magister of Torture Island, gets paired with Regin the Radiant. Get DoaDW at <a href="https://amzn.to/2T2o9FA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dreams-of-a-dark-warrior-kresley-cole/1102789813?ean=9781439177013#/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/book/dreams-of-a-dark-warrior/id399101097?mt=11&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/dreams-of-a-dark-warrior" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or from <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781439136805" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local Indie</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>In the 1976 movie Rocky, one of the things he consumes during training in a&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/NhkdLHSKo9s" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">glassful of raw eggs</a>.</li><li>Jen loves books&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1036047846905135106" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">about nuclear weapons and nuclear disasters</a>, and the mindset of the Order is very much that of&nbsp;<a href="https://undark.org/article/contemplating-nuclear-armageddon-war/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">mutually assured destruction</a>&nbsp;during the Cold War.</li><li>In&nbsp;<a href="https://www.eonline.com/videos/285608/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-premiered-22-years-ago" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Buffy</a>, it was called&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Initiative_(Buffy_the_Vampire_Slayer_episode)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Initiative</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://screenrant.com/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-angel-relationship-secrets-facts-trivia/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Angel</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thecut.com/2018/12/i-think-about-this-a-lot-riley-finn-leaving-buffy.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Riley</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/alright-lets-talk-about-spike-buffy-and-that-scene" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spike</a>&nbsp;were her boyfriends on the show, but in the comic&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satsu_(Buffy_the_Vampire_Slayer)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">there are other lovers</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.inverse.com/article/33753-brain-changes-health-25-quarter-life-crisis-neurology" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Your brain isn't fully cooked</a>&nbsp;until you're 25!</li><li><a href="https://www.duolingo.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Duolingo</a>&nbsp;helps you learn languages, but if you're in a hurry just drink down somebody's blood.</li><li>Sarah's friend Natalie Parker's book is called&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2VTWyIF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Seafire</a>&nbsp;and it has&nbsp;<a href="https://images.gr-assets.com/misc/1552087251-1552087251_goodreads_misc.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the most gorgeous cover</a>.</li><li>Book Riot makes the case for&nbsp;<a href="https://bookriot.com/2018/10/03/horror-romance/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a Romantic Horror subgenre</a>, and Victoria Helen Stone wrote about&nbsp;<a href="https://crimereads.com/are-suspense-and-romance-really-so-different/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the relationship between romance and suspense</a>.</li><li>Some information from Pew about&nbsp;<a href="http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2018/05/22/demographic-and-economic-trends-in-urban-suburban-and-rural-communities/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">rural vs urban living in America</a>.</li><li><a href="http://mentalfloss.com/article/82012/10-thrilling-facts-about-adventures-babysitting" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adventures in Babysitting</a>&nbsp;is an 80s movie all about the horrors of some kids and their babysitter getting into trouble in the big, bad city of Chicago (or, as Jenny Holiday &amp;&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1065028871303675904" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen call it</a>:&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/jennyholi/status/1075392538524168193" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dirty Toronto</a>).</li><li>You can tell a lot about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.tuw.edu/content/health/child-rearing-practices-different-cultures/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a culture by its parenting</a>.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pygmalion_(play)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pygmalion</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encino_Man" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Encino Man</a>.</li><li>Some directions for any&nbsp;<a href="http://naturalwitchlife.blogspot.com/2013/05/how-to-make-talismans-and-amulets.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tailsman</a>-making endeavors.</li><li>Lore parenting tips aside, Jen wrote once about&nbsp;<a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/2018/07/talk-kids-sex/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">how human parents can talk to their kids about sex</a>.</li><li>Maybe&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/28_Days_Later" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">28 Days Later</a>&nbsp;isn't the best metaphor for IAD, but it's a scary movie.</li><li>Jen loves it&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/blog/rombklove-day-3-groveling" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">when heroes grovel</a>.</li><li>A vemon is a vampire/demon hybrid;&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venom_(2018_film)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Venom</a>&nbsp;is a Tom Hardy movie.</li><li>If Jen knew photoshop, she'd be putting Malkolm inside a&nbsp;<a href="http://mentalfloss.com/article/68100/14-things-you-might-not-know-about-sweet-valley-high" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sweet Valley High</a>&nbsp;circle...&nbsp;<a href="http://witanddelight.com/content/uploads//2017/10/svh001-636x1024.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Demon Love</a>!</li><li><a href="https://i.chzbgr.com/full/8985263872/h820DBA7F/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Yao Ming is very tall compared to Kevin Hart</a>, but&nbsp;<a href="https://www.eonline.com/news/1017860/jason-momoa-and-lisa-bonet-do-date-night-in-matching-ensembles-at-2019-oscars" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jason Momoa and Lisa Bonet</a>&nbsp;are much better fancasting for Malkolm and Carrow.</li><li>Friend of the Pod&nbsp;<a href="https://wickedwallflowersclub.com/2019/03/06/ep-72/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adriana Herrera was on our sister podcast Wicked Wallflowers</a>&nbsp;last week.</li></ul><br/><h2>Lost Limb Count</h2><p><strong>Arms and Hands (6)</strong></p><ol><li><em>Conrad</em>&nbsp;cuts off his own hand with a rusty axe so he escape the "witched" chains his brothers locked him in. (<em>Dark Needs at Night's Edge</em>)</li><li><em>Cadeon</em>&nbsp;has both of his hands burned off in the same scene where he loses an eye. There's description of what Cade's baby fingers look like as they are re-growing. It's...kinda gross. (<em>Dark Desires After Dusk</em>)</li><li><em>Sebastian</em>&nbsp;pulverizes most of his right arm during the Hie. He regenerates. (<em>No Rest For the Wicked</em>)</li><li><em>Lucia</em>&nbsp;peels all the skin off from her hand in order to free herself from some handcuffs. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li><li>In order to retrieve the ring from&nbsp;<em>La Dorada</em>&nbsp;, Lothaire cuts off her finger. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li><li><em>Lanthe</em>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<em>Carrow</em>&nbsp;cut off Fegley's hand so they can use his thumb to unlock their torques. He's later killed. (<em>Demon from the Dark</em>)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Chest and Torso (2)</strong></p><ol><li>Omort severs&nbsp;<em>Rydstrom's</em>&nbsp;spine and punches through his torso in a fight. Sabine saves him and enlists Hag to help heal him. (<em>Kiss of a Demon King</em>)</li><li><em>Lucia</em>'s neck is broken. She regenerates. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Face and Eyes (3)</strong></p><ol><li><em>Bowen</em>&nbsp;loses an eye and most of his forehead during the Hie. Mariketa has cursed him and he can't heal until he returns to her. (<em>Wicked Deeds on a Winter's Night</em>)</li><li><em>Cadeon</em>&nbsp;loses an eye and part of his forehead and hair when fighting. It all regenerates. (<em>Dark Desires After Dusk</em>)</li><li>During a rugby match,&nbsp;<em>Garreth</em>&nbsp;has his teeth knocked out and swallows them. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Horns (2)</strong></p><ol><li><em>Cadeon</em>&nbsp;cuts off his own horns to prove to Holly that he is worthy of being her mate. She tells him to let them grow back (<em>Dark Desires After Dusk</em>)</li><li><em>Malkolm</em>&nbsp;is captured by his enemies in Oblivion and taken to the city of Ash. The publicly cut off his horns and then intend to kill him, but Carrow saves him. (Demon from the Dark) ** Legs and Feet (3)**</li><li><em>Lachlain</em>&nbsp;tears off his own leg to reach Emma. He regenerates. (<em>A Hunger Like No Other</em>)</li><li><em>Mariketa</em>'s skull is fractured and her leg is torn from her body. She heals herself after Bowen lays on the ground. Ivy grows over her and heals her. (<em>Wicked Deeds on a Winter's Night</em>)</li><li><em>Thronos</em>&nbsp;is chasing Melananthe and loses a foot when a portal closes on it. (<em>Kiss of a Demon King</em>)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Beheading as a Romantic Gesture (3)</strong></p><ol><li>The first time Garreth spies Lucia, it's when she shoots an arrow and beheads a kobold. He notices that it's "a fantastical shot" and he's super into it. Later, he helps her pick up the head because he's a real gentleman like that. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li><li>Later in the book, they are under attack from vampires and Lucia asks him to help. He promises to "give her their throats" and beheads two vampires. But she's upset about it because of a previous bad experience with cannibalism. ¯_(ツ)_/¯ (Pleasure of a Dark Prince).</li><li><em>Malkolm</em>&nbsp;beheads men that attacked Carrow in Oblvion, and he throws them to prove he's a worthy mate. (<em>Demon from the Dark</em>)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Maybe?</strong></p><ol><li>Does Garreth's losing his connection with his mortal soul count? (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</li></ol><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/2/11/9-demon-from-the-dark </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/2/11/9-demon-from-the-dark]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5c6240ba971a18546f53c698</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2019 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/a6acad47-c98e-4503-bb2f-84c2b698dc9f/fated-mates-demon-from-the-dark-torture-island-final.mp3" length="74421849" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:10:16</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>20</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>20</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Torture Island is here and we could not be more excited! Demon from the Dark is Jen’s favorite book in the series, because she loves poor, broken Malkom, the vemon with a heart of gold, and his fated mate, Carrow, our second witch, whose powers come from other people’s joy. 

This episode, we’re digging into the worldbuilding of the second movement of IAD — Torture Island. We’re talking about innocence and how it is a great motivator, what saves a heroine from being unlikeable, why bathing is sexy, and how we really would like it if more men offered up the heads of our enemies as tribute. As always, there’s a lost-limb count and Lothaire-Watch!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-a6acad47-c98e-4503-bb2f-84c2b698dc9f.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>8.5: Gateways to Romance - Interstitial</title><itunes:title>Gateways to Romance</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>You’re new to romance, where should you begin?! This week, Jen and Sarah are talking about good gateway romances, and we’ve got four that we think work for readers who’ve never dipped a toe, but are open to things from dukes to magic, the America West to kinky London and everything in between.</p><p>Next week, it’s Jen’s favorite IAD book, <a href="https://amzn.to/2EMl8oY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Demon from the Dark</em></a><em>!</em> Malkom Slaine is a demon living alone on another plane…until witch Carrow Graie comes to fetch him. Get DFTD at <a href="https://amzn.to/2ICwsIh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/demon-from-the-dark-kresley-cole/1100363924#/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/book/demon-from-the-dark/id382755293?mt=11&amp;ign-mpt=uo%3D4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/demon-from-the-dark-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or from <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781439123126" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local Indie</a>. Don’t forget that the Audible versions of IAD are on sale right now -- and WORTH EVERY PENNY!&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Pleasure-Dark-Prince-Immortals-After/dp/B00GHTV5NO/ref=tmm_aud_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=1550532516&amp;sr=8-1-fkmrnull" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Listen on Audio</a>!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Next week, it's&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2EMl8oY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Demon from the Dark</a>&nbsp;since we already talked about&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/1/18/8-pleasure-of-a-dark-prince" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pleasure of a Dark Prince</a>!</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1092465905181831168" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Derek Craven</a>&nbsp;is our favorite and since it's our podcast, we don't have to listen to anyone talk about&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2EzIgWI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">St. Vincent</a>.</li><li>A librarian who excels at&nbsp;<a href="http://www.ala.org/rt/nmrt/news/footnotes/november2006ab/readersadvisorymostimp06" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">reader's advisory</a>&nbsp;is a wonderful thing to have in your life.</li><li>Check out&nbsp;<a href="http://www.jenreadsromance.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen's website</a>&nbsp;for targeted romance recommendations.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/biblioracle" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">John Warner</a>&nbsp;is the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.chicagotribune.com/lifestyles/books/ct-prj-biblioracle-great-books-college-20160727-column.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">biblioracle</a>, and he's an amazing&nbsp;<a href="https://www.insidehighered.com/users/john-warner" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">advocate for educators</a>&nbsp;and the&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2H0Tpn5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">teaching of writing</a>. He's also one of the key players in&nbsp;<a href="https://themorningnews.org/tob/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Morning News Tournament of Books</a>, which is literary blood sport par excellence.</li><li>An explainer about American-style&nbsp;<a href="https://redbus2us.com/courses-numbering-system-in-us-100%E2%80%94900-level-classes-bs-or-ms-class/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">universtiy course numbering</a>.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/jaimealyse" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jaime Green</a>&nbsp;is the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/01/books/review/jaime-green-romance-columnist.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">New York Times romance reviewer</a>&nbsp;and we love her.</li><li>One of the most hilarious twitter accounts is all about the&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/RomanceSmells" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">smells of romance</a>.</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgette_Heyer" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Georgette Heyer</a>&nbsp;<a href="http://www.jenniferhallock.com/2018/06/27/history-ever-after-iaspr-2018/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">chronotope and its limits</a>&nbsp;explained.</li><li>If you are interested in knowing the "beat for beat" way a romance is built, you should check out&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2IQvEj1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this book by Gwen Hayes</a>.</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ton_(le_bon_ton)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ton</a>, the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/modiste" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">modiste</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bond_Street" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bond Street</a>.</li><li>Everyone loves a&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bookbrowse.com/read-alikes/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">read-alike</a>, but the problem is finding them.</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://happyeverafter.usatoday.com/2017/03/08/madeline-hunter-readers-love-historical-romance-governesses/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Governess</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mimimatthews.com/2018/01/08/the-truth-about-reformed-rakes-victorian-views-on-marrying-a-scoundrel/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">rake</a>&nbsp;tropes are beloved by romance readers, and&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2Xy1Nzg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tessa Dare's The Governess Game</a>&nbsp;is an excellent example of the trope in action.</li><li>Lol, you can't fool Jen. She is absolutely not googling "sex swing."</li><li>Hillary Clinton said some things about romance novels, and&nbsp;<a href="http://www.loveinpanels.com/prose/romance-novels-for-hillary" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Romancelandia wasn't having it</a>.</li><li>NPR's Codeswitch wrote about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2014/10/07/354310370/a-chosen-exile-black-people-passing-in-white-america" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Passing in America</a>.</li><li>Sarah isn't the only one who&nbsp;<a href="https://bookriot.com/2016/11/01/there-is-so-much-to-learn-from-historical-romance-novels/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">learned about history from romance novels</a>.</li><li>Jen described her&nbsp;<a href="http://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2018/07/jens-review-unraveled.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">angst vs. stakes theory</a>&nbsp;in this post.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/alexanderchee" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alexander Chee</a>&nbsp;is a delight, but Jen hated A Little Life more than any other book she's ever read, so just enjoy&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/Nicole_Cliffe/status/1101929652698804224" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this Nicole Cliffe thread where a million people dunk on it</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/katienotopoulos/sex-house-for-sale-maple-glen-pennsylvania" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Sex House</a>&nbsp;for sale in PA was the best 2019 story. Don't believe us?&nbsp;<a href="https://slate.com/human-interest/2019/02/philadelphia-sex-house-interview-with-realtor-melissa-leonard.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Read this interview</a>&nbsp;with the realtor.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epistolary_novel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Epistolary novels</a>&nbsp;are interesting; but Jen, Melinda, and Kat talked in this review about&nbsp;<a href="http://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2018/10/group-reviewdiscussion-thrall.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Thrall by Roan Parrish &amp; Avon Gale</a>&nbsp;and whether or not epistolary novels work in the age of the internet. (Edited by Sarah to add: Epistolary novels are the tits and anyone who says otherwise is F- wrong.)</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/4anxEzh8xEKSPXKHGWiFue" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bass line</a>&nbsp;in question.</li><li>Jen and Sarah really&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1025740174393831424" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">hate</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/628926301248880640" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">cliffhangers</a>.</li><li><a href="http://www.ilona-andrews.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Andrew and Illona Gordon</a>&nbsp;are a&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/books/a10224282/ilona-andrews-interview/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">husband and wife writing team</a>&nbsp;and Jen would probably read anything they wrote (as long as there were no cliffhangers.)</li><li>Tom Hardy as&nbsp;<a href="https://cdn3.movieweb.com/i/article/Ndgd6YWeJC5oedIvbWxuebyeALo5gd/798:50/Mad-Max-Fury-Road-Photos-Posters-Tom-Hardy.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mad Max</a>&nbsp;and fancast as&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1102962643478958080" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Derek Craven</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1102659884439482368" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mad Rogan</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1102664570429231104" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rune</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/EllyKateRomance/status/1102665107631411202" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">etc</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/3/1/85-gateways-to-romance-interstitial </li><li>If you...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You’re new to romance, where should you begin?! This week, Jen and Sarah are talking about good gateway romances, and we’ve got four that we think work for readers who’ve never dipped a toe, but are open to things from dukes to magic, the America West to kinky London and everything in between.</p><p>Next week, it’s Jen’s favorite IAD book, <a href="https://amzn.to/2EMl8oY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Demon from the Dark</em></a><em>!</em> Malkom Slaine is a demon living alone on another plane…until witch Carrow Graie comes to fetch him. Get DFTD at <a href="https://amzn.to/2ICwsIh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/demon-from-the-dark-kresley-cole/1100363924#/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/book/demon-from-the-dark/id382755293?mt=11&amp;ign-mpt=uo%3D4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/demon-from-the-dark-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or from <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781439123126" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local Indie</a>. Don’t forget that the Audible versions of IAD are on sale right now -- and WORTH EVERY PENNY!&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Pleasure-Dark-Prince-Immortals-After/dp/B00GHTV5NO/ref=tmm_aud_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=1550532516&amp;sr=8-1-fkmrnull" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Listen on Audio</a>!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Next week, it's&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2EMl8oY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Demon from the Dark</a>&nbsp;since we already talked about&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/1/18/8-pleasure-of-a-dark-prince" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pleasure of a Dark Prince</a>!</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1092465905181831168" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Derek Craven</a>&nbsp;is our favorite and since it's our podcast, we don't have to listen to anyone talk about&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2EzIgWI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">St. Vincent</a>.</li><li>A librarian who excels at&nbsp;<a href="http://www.ala.org/rt/nmrt/news/footnotes/november2006ab/readersadvisorymostimp06" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">reader's advisory</a>&nbsp;is a wonderful thing to have in your life.</li><li>Check out&nbsp;<a href="http://www.jenreadsromance.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen's website</a>&nbsp;for targeted romance recommendations.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/biblioracle" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">John Warner</a>&nbsp;is the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.chicagotribune.com/lifestyles/books/ct-prj-biblioracle-great-books-college-20160727-column.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">biblioracle</a>, and he's an amazing&nbsp;<a href="https://www.insidehighered.com/users/john-warner" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">advocate for educators</a>&nbsp;and the&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2H0Tpn5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">teaching of writing</a>. He's also one of the key players in&nbsp;<a href="https://themorningnews.org/tob/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Morning News Tournament of Books</a>, which is literary blood sport par excellence.</li><li>An explainer about American-style&nbsp;<a href="https://redbus2us.com/courses-numbering-system-in-us-100%E2%80%94900-level-classes-bs-or-ms-class/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">universtiy course numbering</a>.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/jaimealyse" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jaime Green</a>&nbsp;is the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/01/books/review/jaime-green-romance-columnist.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">New York Times romance reviewer</a>&nbsp;and we love her.</li><li>One of the most hilarious twitter accounts is all about the&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/RomanceSmells" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">smells of romance</a>.</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgette_Heyer" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Georgette Heyer</a>&nbsp;<a href="http://www.jenniferhallock.com/2018/06/27/history-ever-after-iaspr-2018/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">chronotope and its limits</a>&nbsp;explained.</li><li>If you are interested in knowing the "beat for beat" way a romance is built, you should check out&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2IQvEj1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this book by Gwen Hayes</a>.</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ton_(le_bon_ton)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ton</a>, the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/modiste" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">modiste</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bond_Street" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bond Street</a>.</li><li>Everyone loves a&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bookbrowse.com/read-alikes/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">read-alike</a>, but the problem is finding them.</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://happyeverafter.usatoday.com/2017/03/08/madeline-hunter-readers-love-historical-romance-governesses/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Governess</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mimimatthews.com/2018/01/08/the-truth-about-reformed-rakes-victorian-views-on-marrying-a-scoundrel/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">rake</a>&nbsp;tropes are beloved by romance readers, and&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2Xy1Nzg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tessa Dare's The Governess Game</a>&nbsp;is an excellent example of the trope in action.</li><li>Lol, you can't fool Jen. She is absolutely not googling "sex swing."</li><li>Hillary Clinton said some things about romance novels, and&nbsp;<a href="http://www.loveinpanels.com/prose/romance-novels-for-hillary" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Romancelandia wasn't having it</a>.</li><li>NPR's Codeswitch wrote about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2014/10/07/354310370/a-chosen-exile-black-people-passing-in-white-america" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Passing in America</a>.</li><li>Sarah isn't the only one who&nbsp;<a href="https://bookriot.com/2016/11/01/there-is-so-much-to-learn-from-historical-romance-novels/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">learned about history from romance novels</a>.</li><li>Jen described her&nbsp;<a href="http://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2018/07/jens-review-unraveled.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">angst vs. stakes theory</a>&nbsp;in this post.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/alexanderchee" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alexander Chee</a>&nbsp;is a delight, but Jen hated A Little Life more than any other book she's ever read, so just enjoy&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/Nicole_Cliffe/status/1101929652698804224" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this Nicole Cliffe thread where a million people dunk on it</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/katienotopoulos/sex-house-for-sale-maple-glen-pennsylvania" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Sex House</a>&nbsp;for sale in PA was the best 2019 story. Don't believe us?&nbsp;<a href="https://slate.com/human-interest/2019/02/philadelphia-sex-house-interview-with-realtor-melissa-leonard.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Read this interview</a>&nbsp;with the realtor.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epistolary_novel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Epistolary novels</a>&nbsp;are interesting; but Jen, Melinda, and Kat talked in this review about&nbsp;<a href="http://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2018/10/group-reviewdiscussion-thrall.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Thrall by Roan Parrish &amp; Avon Gale</a>&nbsp;and whether or not epistolary novels work in the age of the internet. (Edited by Sarah to add: Epistolary novels are the tits and anyone who says otherwise is F- wrong.)</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/4anxEzh8xEKSPXKHGWiFue" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bass line</a>&nbsp;in question.</li><li>Jen and Sarah really&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1025740174393831424" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">hate</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/628926301248880640" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">cliffhangers</a>.</li><li><a href="http://www.ilona-andrews.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Andrew and Illona Gordon</a>&nbsp;are a&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/books/a10224282/ilona-andrews-interview/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">husband and wife writing team</a>&nbsp;and Jen would probably read anything they wrote (as long as there were no cliffhangers.)</li><li>Tom Hardy as&nbsp;<a href="https://cdn3.movieweb.com/i/article/Ndgd6YWeJC5oedIvbWxuebyeALo5gd/798:50/Mad-Max-Fury-Road-Photos-Posters-Tom-Hardy.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mad Max</a>&nbsp;and fancast as&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1102962643478958080" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Derek Craven</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1102659884439482368" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mad Rogan</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1102664570429231104" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rune</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/EllyKateRomance/status/1102665107631411202" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">etc</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/3/1/85-gateways-to-romance-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/3/1/85-gateways-to-romance-interstitial]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5c7940244e17b6780c84b737</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2019 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/44b1e14d-1a9d-4886-a540-e05899bd4a7a/fated-mates-podcast-gateway-final.mp3" length="51488486" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>50:28</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>19</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>19</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><itunes:summary>You’re new to romance, where should you begin?! This week, Jen and Sarah are talking about good gateway romances, and we’ve got four that we think work for readers who’ve never dipped a toe, but are open to things from dukes to magic, the America West to kinky London and everything in between.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-44b1e14d-1a9d-4886-a540-e05899bd4a7a.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>8: Triggering the Chastity Clause: Pleasure of a Dark Prince</title><itunes:title>Triggering the Chastity Clause: Pleasure of a Dark Prince</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We’re back with the werewolves this week, with one of our very favorite books in the series, <a href="https://amzn.to/2Ezmjbh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Pleasures of a Dark Prince</em></a>, featuring Garreth MacRieve and Lucia the Huntress, a Valkyrie who is burning it all down. </p><p>This episode, we’re discussing the way this book wraps up the first movement of IAD and preps readers for what’s to come (SPOILER: IT’S TORTURE ISLAND), we get into how the books are becoming more political, we update the lost-limb count, begin Lothaire-Watch, and dig into why it’s just plain futile to try to stay away from a werewolf mate on the night of a full moon. More than all that, we’re interviewing moon expert Summer Ash about moon business, and Jen is beyond excited.</p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review. </p><p>In two weeks, get ready for vivisection, because it’s happening on Torture Island, and we’re doing a reread of Jen’s favorite book in the series, <a href="https://amzn.to/2ICwsIh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Demon From The Dark</em></a>! Malkom Slaine is a demon living alone on another plane…until witch Carrow Graie comes to fetch him. Get DFTD at <a href="https://amzn.to/2ICwsIh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/demon-from-the-dark-kresley-cole/1100363924#/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/book/demon-from-the-dark/id382755293?mt=11&amp;ign-mpt=uo%3D4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/demon-from-the-dark-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or from <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781439123126" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local Indie</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li><a href="http://theconversation.com/prince-harry-and-the-history-of-the-heir-and-the-spare-96685" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">This article</a> explains "the heir and a spare" and also has a lot of Prince Harry. Fine.</li><li>It's an astronomy heavy show, so learn all about <a href="https://youtu.be/gs-yWMuBNr4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Big Bang</a>.</li><li>Ah, the <a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/double%20entendre" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">double entendre</a>.</li><li>All about <a href="https://passport.worldrugby.org/?page=beginners&amp;p=4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">how goals are scored in rugby</a>.</li><li>Turns out there are lots of myths about <a href="https://www.ranker.com/list/creepy-mythology-cannibals/lea-rose-emery" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">gods and cannibalism</a>.</li><li>Chastity is one of <a href="http://www.deadlysins.com/virtues" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the seven virtues</a>, but the seven deadly sins sound a lot more fun.</li><li>Is it really necessary to link to <a href="https://amzn.to/2XoPEfT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fifty Shades of Grey</a>?</li><li>The "<a href="https://ideas.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/29/the-great-he-cession/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">he-cession" recession</a>.</li><li>Women and the <a href="https://twogirlslivinginalonelyworld.wordpress.com/2017/08/28/emotional-work-how-women-are-trained-for-the-second-shift/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">second shift.</a></li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/pI0ATkUpOyw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Cooler</a> stars WILLIAM H. Macy, obviously. <a href="https://giphy.com/gifs/12vxgEBWKE9zZS/html5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Robert H. Macy isn't even a thing</a>.</li><li>The <a href="https://www.ietravel.com/blog/25-fascinating-amazon-rainforest-facts" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon rainforest</a> is truly amazing, but Brazil's new president Jair Bolsonaro is <a href="https://www.wbur.org/news/2018/11/08/brazil-jair-bolsonaro-amazon-rainforest" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">removing legal protections from the rainforest.</a></li><li>A man who tried to contact a legally protected island tribe <a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/inside-story-john-allen-chaus-ill-fated-trip-remote-island-180970971/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">died in the South Pacific last year</a>.</li><li>Indiana Jones and lots and lots of <a href="https://youtu.be/ClwIj3x24Q4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">snakes</a>.</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/cnNBqNb3taw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lara Croft Tomb Raider</a> is a 2001 movie with Angelina Jolie, but here's <a href="https://screenrant.com/tomb-raider-movie-2018-remake-prequel-reboot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a great explainer</a> to the entire Lara Croft franchise.</li><li><a href="https://www.nationalgeographic.com/archaeology-and-history/archaeology/el-dorado/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">El Dorado</a> myths and details.</li><li>Jen's idly curious if Charlie/Isabel character is a nod to the <a href="http://gender.wikia.com/wiki/Travesti" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brazilian Travesti</a> culture, but <a href="https://amzn.to/2XnNCNf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">she doesn't know enough about it</a> <a href="https://amzn.to/2tDWOzj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">to be sure</a>.</li><li>The Wonder Woman "Godkiller" is a <a href="https://www.amazon.com/d/Grown-Up-Toys/Wonder-Woman-Movie-Killer-Replica/B01N6O8TS2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sword</a>, not an arrow.</li><li>In two weeks, we'll be discussing Malkom &amp; Carrow in <a href="https://amzn.to/2ICwsIh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Demon From the Dark</a>.</li><li>Welcome <a href="https://twitter.com/Summer_Ash" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Summer Ash</a>! Please check out her blog <a href="http://www.startorialist.com/about" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Startorialist</a>, which brings science and fashion together.</li><li>More about <a href="http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/cosmos/P/Phases" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">moon phases</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1100210025019174914" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">baby moon/dying moon</a> way of remembering if the moon is waxing or waning.</li><li><a href="https://www.dreamwakers.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Dreamwakers Program</a> helps classrooms all over the country skype with scientists and STEM people. So cool!</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/VdT2HqoV198" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">No, you can't</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kill_the_Moon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">blow up the moon</a>.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2TklafO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What If!</a> is a great collection of <a href="https://xkcd.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">XKCD</a> columns, including Jen's favorite about whether or not you can <a href="https://what-if.xkcd.com/29/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">swim in a pool with spent nuclear rods</a>.</li><li>Jen really loves <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1095342396177412102" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">books about nuclear disasters</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.darksky.org/light-pollution/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Light pollution</a> is the worst.</li><li>Check out the <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/sky-guide/id576588894?mt=8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sky Guide app</a>.</li><li>More about <a href="https://www.space.com/19878-halleys-comet.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Haley's Comet</a> and <a href="http://albertis-window.blogspot.com/2009/09/bayeux-tapestry-and-halleys-comet.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Bayeux Tapestry</a>.</li><li><a href="https://astronomyontap.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Astronomy on Tap</a> is worth checking out.</li><li><a href="https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/news/812/10-things-what-we-learn-about-earth-by-studying-the-moon/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The moon</a> is amazing. Look up!</li></ul><br/><h2><strong>Lost Limb Count</strong></h2><p><strong>Arms and Hands (5)</strong></p><p><em>Conrad</em> cuts off his own hand with a rusty axe so he escape the "witched" chains his brothers locked him in. (<em>Dark Needs at Night's Edge</em>)</p><p><em>Cadeon</em> has both of his hands burned off in the same scene where he loses an eye. There's description of what Cade's baby fingers look like as they are re-growing. It's...kinda gross. (<em>Dark Desires After Dusk</em>)</p><p><em>Sebastian</em> pulverizes most of his right arm during the Hie. He regenerates. (<em>No Rest For the Wicked</em>)</p><p><em>Lucia</em> peels all the skin off from her hand in order to free herself from some handcuffs. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</p><p>In order to retrieve the ring from <em>La Dorada</em> , Lothaire cuts off her finger. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</p><p><strong>Chest and Torso (2)</strong></p><p>Omort severs <em>Rydstrom's</em> spine and punches through his torso in a fight. Sabine saves him and enlists Hag to help heal him. (<em>Kiss of a Demon King</em>)</p><p><em>Lucia</em>'s neck is broken. She regenerates. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</p><p><strong>Face and Eyes (3)</strong></p><p><em>Bowen</em> loses an eye and most of his forehead during the Hie. Mariketa has cursed him and he can't heal until he returns to her. (<em>Wicked Deeds on a Winter's Night</em>)</p><p><em>Cadeon</em> loses an eye and part of his forehead and hair when fighting. It all regenerates. (<em>Dark Desires...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We’re back with the werewolves this week, with one of our very favorite books in the series, <a href="https://amzn.to/2Ezmjbh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Pleasures of a Dark Prince</em></a>, featuring Garreth MacRieve and Lucia the Huntress, a Valkyrie who is burning it all down. </p><p>This episode, we’re discussing the way this book wraps up the first movement of IAD and preps readers for what’s to come (SPOILER: IT’S TORTURE ISLAND), we get into how the books are becoming more political, we update the lost-limb count, begin Lothaire-Watch, and dig into why it’s just plain futile to try to stay away from a werewolf mate on the night of a full moon. More than all that, we’re interviewing moon expert Summer Ash about moon business, and Jen is beyond excited.</p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review. </p><p>In two weeks, get ready for vivisection, because it’s happening on Torture Island, and we’re doing a reread of Jen’s favorite book in the series, <a href="https://amzn.to/2ICwsIh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Demon From The Dark</em></a>! Malkom Slaine is a demon living alone on another plane…until witch Carrow Graie comes to fetch him. Get DFTD at <a href="https://amzn.to/2ICwsIh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/demon-from-the-dark-kresley-cole/1100363924#/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/book/demon-from-the-dark/id382755293?mt=11&amp;ign-mpt=uo%3D4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/demon-from-the-dark-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or from <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781439123126" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local Indie</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li><a href="http://theconversation.com/prince-harry-and-the-history-of-the-heir-and-the-spare-96685" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">This article</a> explains "the heir and a spare" and also has a lot of Prince Harry. Fine.</li><li>It's an astronomy heavy show, so learn all about <a href="https://youtu.be/gs-yWMuBNr4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Big Bang</a>.</li><li>Ah, the <a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/double%20entendre" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">double entendre</a>.</li><li>All about <a href="https://passport.worldrugby.org/?page=beginners&amp;p=4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">how goals are scored in rugby</a>.</li><li>Turns out there are lots of myths about <a href="https://www.ranker.com/list/creepy-mythology-cannibals/lea-rose-emery" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">gods and cannibalism</a>.</li><li>Chastity is one of <a href="http://www.deadlysins.com/virtues" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the seven virtues</a>, but the seven deadly sins sound a lot more fun.</li><li>Is it really necessary to link to <a href="https://amzn.to/2XoPEfT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fifty Shades of Grey</a>?</li><li>The "<a href="https://ideas.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/29/the-great-he-cession/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">he-cession" recession</a>.</li><li>Women and the <a href="https://twogirlslivinginalonelyworld.wordpress.com/2017/08/28/emotional-work-how-women-are-trained-for-the-second-shift/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">second shift.</a></li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/pI0ATkUpOyw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Cooler</a> stars WILLIAM H. Macy, obviously. <a href="https://giphy.com/gifs/12vxgEBWKE9zZS/html5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Robert H. Macy isn't even a thing</a>.</li><li>The <a href="https://www.ietravel.com/blog/25-fascinating-amazon-rainforest-facts" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon rainforest</a> is truly amazing, but Brazil's new president Jair Bolsonaro is <a href="https://www.wbur.org/news/2018/11/08/brazil-jair-bolsonaro-amazon-rainforest" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">removing legal protections from the rainforest.</a></li><li>A man who tried to contact a legally protected island tribe <a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/inside-story-john-allen-chaus-ill-fated-trip-remote-island-180970971/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">died in the South Pacific last year</a>.</li><li>Indiana Jones and lots and lots of <a href="https://youtu.be/ClwIj3x24Q4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">snakes</a>.</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/cnNBqNb3taw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lara Croft Tomb Raider</a> is a 2001 movie with Angelina Jolie, but here's <a href="https://screenrant.com/tomb-raider-movie-2018-remake-prequel-reboot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a great explainer</a> to the entire Lara Croft franchise.</li><li><a href="https://www.nationalgeographic.com/archaeology-and-history/archaeology/el-dorado/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">El Dorado</a> myths and details.</li><li>Jen's idly curious if Charlie/Isabel character is a nod to the <a href="http://gender.wikia.com/wiki/Travesti" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brazilian Travesti</a> culture, but <a href="https://amzn.to/2XnNCNf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">she doesn't know enough about it</a> <a href="https://amzn.to/2tDWOzj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">to be sure</a>.</li><li>The Wonder Woman "Godkiller" is a <a href="https://www.amazon.com/d/Grown-Up-Toys/Wonder-Woman-Movie-Killer-Replica/B01N6O8TS2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sword</a>, not an arrow.</li><li>In two weeks, we'll be discussing Malkom &amp; Carrow in <a href="https://amzn.to/2ICwsIh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Demon From the Dark</a>.</li><li>Welcome <a href="https://twitter.com/Summer_Ash" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Summer Ash</a>! Please check out her blog <a href="http://www.startorialist.com/about" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Startorialist</a>, which brings science and fashion together.</li><li>More about <a href="http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/cosmos/P/Phases" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">moon phases</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1100210025019174914" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">baby moon/dying moon</a> way of remembering if the moon is waxing or waning.</li><li><a href="https://www.dreamwakers.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Dreamwakers Program</a> helps classrooms all over the country skype with scientists and STEM people. So cool!</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/VdT2HqoV198" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">No, you can't</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kill_the_Moon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">blow up the moon</a>.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2TklafO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What If!</a> is a great collection of <a href="https://xkcd.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">XKCD</a> columns, including Jen's favorite about whether or not you can <a href="https://what-if.xkcd.com/29/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">swim in a pool with spent nuclear rods</a>.</li><li>Jen really loves <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1095342396177412102" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">books about nuclear disasters</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.darksky.org/light-pollution/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Light pollution</a> is the worst.</li><li>Check out the <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/sky-guide/id576588894?mt=8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sky Guide app</a>.</li><li>More about <a href="https://www.space.com/19878-halleys-comet.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Haley's Comet</a> and <a href="http://albertis-window.blogspot.com/2009/09/bayeux-tapestry-and-halleys-comet.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Bayeux Tapestry</a>.</li><li><a href="https://astronomyontap.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Astronomy on Tap</a> is worth checking out.</li><li><a href="https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/news/812/10-things-what-we-learn-about-earth-by-studying-the-moon/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The moon</a> is amazing. Look up!</li></ul><br/><h2><strong>Lost Limb Count</strong></h2><p><strong>Arms and Hands (5)</strong></p><p><em>Conrad</em> cuts off his own hand with a rusty axe so he escape the "witched" chains his brothers locked him in. (<em>Dark Needs at Night's Edge</em>)</p><p><em>Cadeon</em> has both of his hands burned off in the same scene where he loses an eye. There's description of what Cade's baby fingers look like as they are re-growing. It's...kinda gross. (<em>Dark Desires After Dusk</em>)</p><p><em>Sebastian</em> pulverizes most of his right arm during the Hie. He regenerates. (<em>No Rest For the Wicked</em>)</p><p><em>Lucia</em> peels all the skin off from her hand in order to free herself from some handcuffs. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</p><p>In order to retrieve the ring from <em>La Dorada</em> , Lothaire cuts off her finger. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</p><p><strong>Chest and Torso (2)</strong></p><p>Omort severs <em>Rydstrom's</em> spine and punches through his torso in a fight. Sabine saves him and enlists Hag to help heal him. (<em>Kiss of a Demon King</em>)</p><p><em>Lucia</em>'s neck is broken. She regenerates. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</p><p><strong>Face and Eyes (3)</strong></p><p><em>Bowen</em> loses an eye and most of his forehead during the Hie. Mariketa has cursed him and he can't heal until he returns to her. (<em>Wicked Deeds on a Winter's Night</em>)</p><p><em>Cadeon</em> loses an eye and part of his forehead and hair when fighting. It all regenerates. (<em>Dark Desires After Dusk</em>)</p><p>During a rugby match, <em>Garreth</em> has his teeth knocked out and swallows them. (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</p><p><strong>Legs and Feet (3)</strong></p><p><em>Lachlain</em> tears off his own leg to reach Emma. He regenerates. (<em>A Hunger Like No Other</em>)</p><p><em>Mariketa</em>'s skull is fractured and her leg is torn from her body. She heals herself after Bowen lays on the ground. Ivy grows over her and heals her. (<em>Wicked Deeds on a Winter's Night</em>)</p><p><em>Thronos</em> is chasing Melananthe and loses a foot when a portal closes on it. (<em>Kiss of a Demon King</em>)</p><p><strong>These Lingering Questions</strong></p><p>Does Garreth's losing his connection with his mortal soul count? (<em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em>)</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/1/18/8-pleasure-of-a-dark-prince]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5c42243d6d2a736e40039a09</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2019 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/7dc74db6-1d3f-49b0-af29-100949c21f18/fated-mates-book-8.mp3" length="94575037" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:32:16</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>18</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>18</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We’re back with the werewolves this week, with one of our very favorite books in the series, Pleasures of a Dark Prince, featuring Garreth MacRieve and Lucia the Huntress, a Valkyrie who is burning it all down. 

This episode, we’re discussing the way this book wraps up the first movement of IAD and preps readers for what’s to come (SPOILER: IT’S TORTURE ISLAND), we get into how the books are becoming more political, we update the lost-limb count, begin Lothaire-Watch, and dig into why it’s just plain futile to try to stay away from a werewolf mate on the night of a full moon. More than all that, we’re interviewing moon expert Summer Ash about moon business, and Jen is beyond excited.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-7dc74db6-1d3f-49b0-af29-100949c21f18.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>7.5: Scotland Historical Romances</title><itunes:title>Scotland Historical Romances</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It’s Scotland week, Lads and Lassies! We’re talking about the great green jewel to the north of England, where the ladies are bold and the lairds are brawn, and we're all just wishing we could get wrapped in a plaid and cuddled through a cold Highland night. </p><p>Next week, we’re back with the Lykae with <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Pleasure-Dark-Prince-Immortals-After-ebook/dp/B002WLCKD0/ref=as_li_ss_tl?crid=3C1YCYRKVERYR&amp;keywords=pleasure+of+a+dark+prince+kresley+cole&amp;qid=1550532516&amp;s=gateway&amp;sprefix=pleasure+of+a+dark+,aps,152&amp;sr=8-1-fkmrnull&amp;linkCode=sl1&amp;tag=fatedmates-20&amp;linkId=c66ef459eee2df3c22283f8e93fee5bd&amp;language=en_US" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em></a>—starring the FULLY DREAMY Garreth MacRieve and Lucia the Huntress, who just might be our favorite heroine yet. We’ll be talking wolf holograms, how Kresley is blowing the doors off the IAD world, and we’ll be starting Lothaire Watch! </p><p>Get ready for the PoaDP read along at&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Pleasure-Dark-Prince-Immortals-After-ebook/dp/B002WLCKD0/ref=as_li_ss_tl?crid=3C1YCYRKVERYR&amp;keywords=pleasure+of+a+dark+prince+kresley+cole&amp;qid=1550532516&amp;s=gateway&amp;sprefix=pleasure+of+a+dark+,aps,152&amp;sr=8-1-fkmrnull&amp;linkCode=sl1&amp;tag=fatedmates-20&amp;linkId=c66ef459eee2df3c22283f8e93fee5bd&amp;language=en_US" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/pleasure-of-a-dark-prince-kresley-cole/1100335247" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/book/pleasure-of-a-dark-prince/id381504850?mt=11&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>&nbsp;or&nbsp;<a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781849834209" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>. Also, the Audible versions of IAD are on sale right now -- and WORTH EVERY PENNY!&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Pleasure-Dark-Prince-Immortals-After/dp/B00GHTV5NO/ref=tmm_aud_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=1550532516&amp;sr=8-1-fkmrnull" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Listen on Audio</a>!  </p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Here's the twitter thread where&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/lillie_80/status/1065621120613867520" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lillie talked about imprinting</a>&nbsp;on Julie Garwood.</li><li>The Heaving Bosoms podcast is pretty great, and although&nbsp;<a href="https://heavingbosoms.libsyn.com/ep-39-mastered-by-her-mates-by-grace-goodwin-0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this episode about Mastered by Her Mates</a>&nbsp;by Grace Goodwin is not set during Highlander Times, it's profoundly hilarious.</li><li>Some&nbsp;<a href="https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=730159" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">brief</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/4h5n4w/why_are_the_edges_of_many_old_cheap_paperbacks/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">explainers</a>&nbsp;about why old paperbacks have dyed edges, but according to Sarah's research, the more popular an author, the more likely it was the pages would be dyed.</li><li><a href="https://www.collectorsweekly.com/articles/debunking-the-myths-about-kilts/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">All about kilts</a>. Also, it's never too late for a&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thekiltstore.com/1637861/products/2019_men_in_kilts_calendar.aspx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">calendar of men it kilts</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-a-dagger-and-a-dirk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dirks&nbsp;</a>and&nbsp;<a href="http://www.medieval-life-and-times.info/medieval-swords-and-armor/broadsword.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">broadswords</a>, oh my!</li><li>Goodreads has a few&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/74870.Trouble_Marriage_on_the_Rocks_Romance_" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lists of Broken marriage romances</a>, but Jen recommends&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2NkjnCp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cherish Me by Farrah Rochan</a>.</li><li>Here's a google folder with screenshots of the entries for&nbsp;<a href="https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1US-5GhA749sQZPMvBlelF4fIKt9vDNEg?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">cunt, cunny, pussy, quim, shit, and fuck</a>&nbsp;from the Oxford English Dictionary. Jen mentioned a book called&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cunt:_A_Declaration_of_Independence" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cunt: A Declaration of Independence</a>, but it's kind of&nbsp;<a href="https://medium.com/@notCursedE/10-terf-arguments-that-need-to-stop-80e34d07dae4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Terf</a>-y, so she does not recommend it.</li><li>Sarah does talk about&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1021468228873269248" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the etymology</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1002389343015768065" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">of swear words</a>&nbsp;a lot on Twitter, becuase&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1002389343015768065" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fuck just isn't a new word</a>. Don't @ us.</li><li>If you want to learn more about the etymology of swear words, Melissa Mohr's&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2EipUKB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Holy Shit: A Brief History of Swearing</a>&nbsp;is the book for you.</li><li>A&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/BooksbySSJaxon/status/1025093513673760768" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">thread about vaginas</a>&nbsp;by friend of the pod S.S. Jaxon.</li><li>You definitely want to see&nbsp;<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AhRgJXMMLW1LGVf7D0N-_NJ2NSAQ3Y5b/view?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the flying fuck image</a>&nbsp;and read Jen's column called&nbsp;<a href="http://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2018/01/who-did-it-better-on-horse.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Who Did it Better on a Horse</a>.</li><li><a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A36960.0001.001/1:7?rgn=div1;view=fulltext" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lyrics</a>&nbsp;to a song from 1657 that uses some very choice dirty words. Maybe you prefer to&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/1HNrYFs4HEOJrf2cnhcZm3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">listen</a>?</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hangover" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Hangover</a>&nbsp;is a 2009 comedy, so who knows if it's held up over time.</li><li>Sarah, Sophie Jordan, and a bunch of other amazing authors will be at&nbsp;<a href="https://info.harpercollins.com/kisscon/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Avon's KissCon</a>&nbsp;in early April. Jen will be there as an attendee, and we'll definitely have some sort of Fated Mates meet-up!</li><li>Jen said she texted Sophie, but that's not true.&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1036661656598794240" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">She tweeted at her.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.katybooks.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Katy Budget Books</a>&nbsp;has a super-amazing romance section and if you want to order signed copies of Sophie Jordan's upcoming book, you should contact them.</li><li>Next week, we return to IAD with Garreth and Lucia in&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2V5hRXq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pleasure of a Dark Prince.</a></li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/1/7/65-scotland-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s Scotland week, Lads and Lassies! We’re talking about the great green jewel to the north of England, where the ladies are bold and the lairds are brawn, and we're all just wishing we could get wrapped in a plaid and cuddled through a cold Highland night. </p><p>Next week, we’re back with the Lykae with <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Pleasure-Dark-Prince-Immortals-After-ebook/dp/B002WLCKD0/ref=as_li_ss_tl?crid=3C1YCYRKVERYR&amp;keywords=pleasure+of+a+dark+prince+kresley+cole&amp;qid=1550532516&amp;s=gateway&amp;sprefix=pleasure+of+a+dark+,aps,152&amp;sr=8-1-fkmrnull&amp;linkCode=sl1&amp;tag=fatedmates-20&amp;linkId=c66ef459eee2df3c22283f8e93fee5bd&amp;language=en_US" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Pleasure of a Dark Prince</em></a>—starring the FULLY DREAMY Garreth MacRieve and Lucia the Huntress, who just might be our favorite heroine yet. We’ll be talking wolf holograms, how Kresley is blowing the doors off the IAD world, and we’ll be starting Lothaire Watch! </p><p>Get ready for the PoaDP read along at&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Pleasure-Dark-Prince-Immortals-After-ebook/dp/B002WLCKD0/ref=as_li_ss_tl?crid=3C1YCYRKVERYR&amp;keywords=pleasure+of+a+dark+prince+kresley+cole&amp;qid=1550532516&amp;s=gateway&amp;sprefix=pleasure+of+a+dark+,aps,152&amp;sr=8-1-fkmrnull&amp;linkCode=sl1&amp;tag=fatedmates-20&amp;linkId=c66ef459eee2df3c22283f8e93fee5bd&amp;language=en_US" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/pleasure-of-a-dark-prince-kresley-cole/1100335247" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/book/pleasure-of-a-dark-prince/id381504850?mt=11&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>&nbsp;or&nbsp;<a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781849834209" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>. Also, the Audible versions of IAD are on sale right now -- and WORTH EVERY PENNY!&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Pleasure-Dark-Prince-Immortals-After/dp/B00GHTV5NO/ref=tmm_aud_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=1550532516&amp;sr=8-1-fkmrnull" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Listen on Audio</a>!  </p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Here's the twitter thread where&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/lillie_80/status/1065621120613867520" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lillie talked about imprinting</a>&nbsp;on Julie Garwood.</li><li>The Heaving Bosoms podcast is pretty great, and although&nbsp;<a href="https://heavingbosoms.libsyn.com/ep-39-mastered-by-her-mates-by-grace-goodwin-0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this episode about Mastered by Her Mates</a>&nbsp;by Grace Goodwin is not set during Highlander Times, it's profoundly hilarious.</li><li>Some&nbsp;<a href="https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=730159" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">brief</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/4h5n4w/why_are_the_edges_of_many_old_cheap_paperbacks/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">explainers</a>&nbsp;about why old paperbacks have dyed edges, but according to Sarah's research, the more popular an author, the more likely it was the pages would be dyed.</li><li><a href="https://www.collectorsweekly.com/articles/debunking-the-myths-about-kilts/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">All about kilts</a>. Also, it's never too late for a&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thekiltstore.com/1637861/products/2019_men_in_kilts_calendar.aspx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">calendar of men it kilts</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-a-dagger-and-a-dirk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dirks&nbsp;</a>and&nbsp;<a href="http://www.medieval-life-and-times.info/medieval-swords-and-armor/broadsword.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">broadswords</a>, oh my!</li><li>Goodreads has a few&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/74870.Trouble_Marriage_on_the_Rocks_Romance_" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lists of Broken marriage romances</a>, but Jen recommends&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2NkjnCp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cherish Me by Farrah Rochan</a>.</li><li>Here's a google folder with screenshots of the entries for&nbsp;<a href="https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1US-5GhA749sQZPMvBlelF4fIKt9vDNEg?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">cunt, cunny, pussy, quim, shit, and fuck</a>&nbsp;from the Oxford English Dictionary. Jen mentioned a book called&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cunt:_A_Declaration_of_Independence" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cunt: A Declaration of Independence</a>, but it's kind of&nbsp;<a href="https://medium.com/@notCursedE/10-terf-arguments-that-need-to-stop-80e34d07dae4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Terf</a>-y, so she does not recommend it.</li><li>Sarah does talk about&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1021468228873269248" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the etymology</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1002389343015768065" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">of swear words</a>&nbsp;a lot on Twitter, becuase&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1002389343015768065" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fuck just isn't a new word</a>. Don't @ us.</li><li>If you want to learn more about the etymology of swear words, Melissa Mohr's&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2EipUKB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Holy Shit: A Brief History of Swearing</a>&nbsp;is the book for you.</li><li>A&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/BooksbySSJaxon/status/1025093513673760768" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">thread about vaginas</a>&nbsp;by friend of the pod S.S. Jaxon.</li><li>You definitely want to see&nbsp;<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AhRgJXMMLW1LGVf7D0N-_NJ2NSAQ3Y5b/view?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the flying fuck image</a>&nbsp;and read Jen's column called&nbsp;<a href="http://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2018/01/who-did-it-better-on-horse.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Who Did it Better on a Horse</a>.</li><li><a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A36960.0001.001/1:7?rgn=div1;view=fulltext" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lyrics</a>&nbsp;to a song from 1657 that uses some very choice dirty words. Maybe you prefer to&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/1HNrYFs4HEOJrf2cnhcZm3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">listen</a>?</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hangover" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Hangover</a>&nbsp;is a 2009 comedy, so who knows if it's held up over time.</li><li>Sarah, Sophie Jordan, and a bunch of other amazing authors will be at&nbsp;<a href="https://info.harpercollins.com/kisscon/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Avon's KissCon</a>&nbsp;in early April. Jen will be there as an attendee, and we'll definitely have some sort of Fated Mates meet-up!</li><li>Jen said she texted Sophie, but that's not true.&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1036661656598794240" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">She tweeted at her.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.katybooks.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Katy Budget Books</a>&nbsp;has a super-amazing romance section and if you want to order signed copies of Sophie Jordan's upcoming book, you should contact them.</li><li>Next week, we return to IAD with Garreth and Lucia in&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2V5hRXq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pleasure of a Dark Prince.</a></li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/1/7/65-scotland-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/1/7/65-scotland-interstitial]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5c3392ea21c67c17a9fca4c9</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2019 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/50fa77d4-6612-445c-9e26-c96e711cd35e/fated-mates-scotland-final.mp3" length="51845687" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>50:59</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>17</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>17</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><itunes:summary>It’s Scotland week, Lads and Lassies! We’re talking about the great green jewel to the north of England, where the ladies are bold and the lairds are brawn, and we&apos;re all just wishing we could get wrapped in a plaid and cuddled through a cold Highland night.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-50fa77d4-6612-445c-9e26-c96e711cd35e.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>7: Ghost Pepper Town: Warlord Wants Forever &amp; Untouchable</title><itunes:title>Ghost Pepper Town: Warlord Wants Forever &amp; Untouchable</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We’re tackling the novellas this week, and finishing up the Wroth Brother Quartet with The Warlord Wants Forever (Nikolai) &amp; Untouchable (Murdoch), as well as their incredible Valkyrie mates. </p><p>This episode, we’re talking about Myst’s weird chain, Danii’s loneliness, the responsibility of authors to readers, to themselves, to the text, and to literary history, and the way Untouchable hints at the enormous world that IAD is about to become. </p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the po<em>dcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like</em> or a review. </p><p>In two weeks, we’re back to the Lykae, with one of our favorite books — <a href="https://amzn.to/2thZfr0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Pleasures of a Dark Prince</em></a>, the last book in the first arc of the IAD series (this begins at the same time as A Hunger Like No Other). Garreth MacRieve, prince of the Lykae clan and Lucia the Huntress — the greatest archer of all time. </p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>The Wroth Brothers are dreamy, and here are the books the feature&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2Bw6Yq2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nikolai</a>,<a href="https://amzn.to/2SRluCV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">&nbsp;Sebastian</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2X0JSAX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Conrad</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2SMCH0a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Murdoch</a>.</li><li>Take a look at the&nbsp;<a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ileIRCUNZ0HoOYSrTsFBW0XxweCfYciaUsPYHiJNR-Y/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">IAD Ranking Spreasheet of Wonder</a>&nbsp;from the Wicked Wallflowers Podcast.</li><li>Sarah refers to our novella episode, but she means the&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/35-holiday-romances-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Holiday Romances episode</a>&nbsp;where we had a long discussion of the novellas as a form.</li><li>Jen collected some comparison screenshots from the original (A) and revised (B) versions of The Warlord Wants Forever. The&nbsp;<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/11nhXtqwFqQ3m90H7QLuFIrzFbwIl_f7V/view?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">two</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LnwFM250abkYaEllJjVdx9As5yeqsIa1/view?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">versions</a>&nbsp;of the scene after the chain is broken; The&nbsp;<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PHtymFwjP6icYIkTjybrBQTmo44awoLR/view?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">two</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mWjX-gI3hOj9QhBBboiSVXEnjagy4O1F/view?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">versions</a>&nbsp;of the first time they have sex; and the&nbsp;<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1waOmU5HNIj_tuyQ_P7zODEJbbpRKq2sg/view?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">two</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/17IIuWFgf1WlqRZSZGkzDUMTlkTxCdiK9/view?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">versions</a>&nbsp;of Nix naming herself.</li><li><a href="https://www.underthecoversbookblog.com/2017/10/under-the-covers-top-5-dubious-consent-books.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dubcon romances</a>&nbsp;have main characters who agree to sex play featuring "dubious consent."</li><li>A little more about&nbsp;<a href="https://medium.com/@charlottepennclark/whitney-rewritten-spoilers-ahead-f59399fd1b49" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the versions of Whitney, My Love</a>. You can still find original versions on eBay or Amazon, but you'll pay more for them.</li><li>Jen mentions&nbsp;<a href="https://las.depaul.edu/academics/english/faculty/Pages/eric-murphy-selinger.aspx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Eric Selinger at DePaul</a>. He teaches classes on Romance at DePaul, which is local for her. SADLY, they don't have PhD programs. But you can read more academic romance talk at a blog called&nbsp;<a href="http://teachmetonight.blogspot.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Teach Me Tonight</a>.</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/reviews/hello-stranger-lisa-kleypas/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hello Stranger review at Smart Bitches</a>&nbsp;calls out the&nbsp;<a href="http://arabstereotypes.org/why-stereotypes/what-orientalism" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Orientalism</a>&nbsp;in the novel, and features Lisa Kleypas' response.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_hole" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Memory Hole</a>&nbsp;is a reference to 1984 by George Orwell.</li><li>A little more about why&nbsp;<a href="http://www.suleikhasnyder.com/2014/04/le-sheikh-cest-chic-not-so-much.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sheikh</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://bookriot.com/2018/01/04/native-american-romance-novels/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Native American romances</a>&nbsp;are problematic.</li><li>A&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_vampire_traits_in_folklore_and_fiction#Supernatural_powers" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">definitive list of the qualities, skills, and powers of vampires</a>&nbsp;in literature and pop culture. At some point, Jen's going to add IAD.</li><li>Retcon stands for "retroactive continiuity" and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/retcon-history-and-meaning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here's a great primer</a>&nbsp;about it from the best dictionary, Merriam-Webster.</li><li>In two weeks, we'll be discussing Garreth &amp; Lucia in&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2thZfr0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pleasure of a Dark Prince</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/1/13/7-warlord-wants-forever-amp-untouchable </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We’re tackling the novellas this week, and finishing up the Wroth Brother Quartet with The Warlord Wants Forever (Nikolai) &amp; Untouchable (Murdoch), as well as their incredible Valkyrie mates. </p><p>This episode, we’re talking about Myst’s weird chain, Danii’s loneliness, the responsibility of authors to readers, to themselves, to the text, and to literary history, and the way Untouchable hints at the enormous world that IAD is about to become. </p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the po<em>dcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like</em> or a review. </p><p>In two weeks, we’re back to the Lykae, with one of our favorite books — <a href="https://amzn.to/2thZfr0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Pleasures of a Dark Prince</em></a>, the last book in the first arc of the IAD series (this begins at the same time as A Hunger Like No Other). Garreth MacRieve, prince of the Lykae clan and Lucia the Huntress — the greatest archer of all time. </p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>The Wroth Brothers are dreamy, and here are the books the feature&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2Bw6Yq2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nikolai</a>,<a href="https://amzn.to/2SRluCV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">&nbsp;Sebastian</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2X0JSAX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Conrad</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2SMCH0a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Murdoch</a>.</li><li>Take a look at the&nbsp;<a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ileIRCUNZ0HoOYSrTsFBW0XxweCfYciaUsPYHiJNR-Y/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">IAD Ranking Spreasheet of Wonder</a>&nbsp;from the Wicked Wallflowers Podcast.</li><li>Sarah refers to our novella episode, but she means the&nbsp;<a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/35-holiday-romances-interstitial" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Holiday Romances episode</a>&nbsp;where we had a long discussion of the novellas as a form.</li><li>Jen collected some comparison screenshots from the original (A) and revised (B) versions of The Warlord Wants Forever. The&nbsp;<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/11nhXtqwFqQ3m90H7QLuFIrzFbwIl_f7V/view?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">two</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LnwFM250abkYaEllJjVdx9As5yeqsIa1/view?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">versions</a>&nbsp;of the scene after the chain is broken; The&nbsp;<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PHtymFwjP6icYIkTjybrBQTmo44awoLR/view?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">two</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mWjX-gI3hOj9QhBBboiSVXEnjagy4O1F/view?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">versions</a>&nbsp;of the first time they have sex; and the&nbsp;<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1waOmU5HNIj_tuyQ_P7zODEJbbpRKq2sg/view?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">two</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/17IIuWFgf1WlqRZSZGkzDUMTlkTxCdiK9/view?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">versions</a>&nbsp;of Nix naming herself.</li><li><a href="https://www.underthecoversbookblog.com/2017/10/under-the-covers-top-5-dubious-consent-books.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dubcon romances</a>&nbsp;have main characters who agree to sex play featuring "dubious consent."</li><li>A little more about&nbsp;<a href="https://medium.com/@charlottepennclark/whitney-rewritten-spoilers-ahead-f59399fd1b49" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the versions of Whitney, My Love</a>. You can still find original versions on eBay or Amazon, but you'll pay more for them.</li><li>Jen mentions&nbsp;<a href="https://las.depaul.edu/academics/english/faculty/Pages/eric-murphy-selinger.aspx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Eric Selinger at DePaul</a>. He teaches classes on Romance at DePaul, which is local for her. SADLY, they don't have PhD programs. But you can read more academic romance talk at a blog called&nbsp;<a href="http://teachmetonight.blogspot.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Teach Me Tonight</a>.</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/reviews/hello-stranger-lisa-kleypas/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hello Stranger review at Smart Bitches</a>&nbsp;calls out the&nbsp;<a href="http://arabstereotypes.org/why-stereotypes/what-orientalism" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Orientalism</a>&nbsp;in the novel, and features Lisa Kleypas' response.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_hole" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Memory Hole</a>&nbsp;is a reference to 1984 by George Orwell.</li><li>A little more about why&nbsp;<a href="http://www.suleikhasnyder.com/2014/04/le-sheikh-cest-chic-not-so-much.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sheikh</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://bookriot.com/2018/01/04/native-american-romance-novels/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Native American romances</a>&nbsp;are problematic.</li><li>A&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_vampire_traits_in_folklore_and_fiction#Supernatural_powers" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">definitive list of the qualities, skills, and powers of vampires</a>&nbsp;in literature and pop culture. At some point, Jen's going to add IAD.</li><li>Retcon stands for "retroactive continiuity" and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/retcon-history-and-meaning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here's a great primer</a>&nbsp;about it from the best dictionary, Merriam-Webster.</li><li>In two weeks, we'll be discussing Garreth &amp; Lucia in&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2thZfr0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pleasure of a Dark Prince</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/1/13/7-warlord-wants-forever-amp-untouchable </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/1/13/7-warlord-wants-forever-amp-untouchable]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5c3bd75eb8a04593c3f556b2</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2019 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/1dc905a2-f3f3-4afe-a8ce-83188916490c/novellas-final.mp3" length="74247311" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:12:23</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>16</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>16</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We’re tackling the novellas this week, and finishing up the Wroth Brother Quartet with The Warlord Wants Forever (Nikolai) &amp; Untouchable (Murdoch), as well as their incredible Valkyrie mates. 

This episode, we’re talking about Myst’s weird chain, Danii’s loneliness, the responsibility of authors to readers, to themselves, to the text, and to literary history, and the way Untouchable hints at the enormous world that IAD is about to become.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-1dc905a2-f3f3-4afe-a8ce-83188916490c.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>6.5: Freewheeling with Joanna Shupe: Enemies to Lovers Romance</title><itunes:title>Freewheeling with Joanna Shupe</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This week, we’re having a fun, far-reaching conversation with the wonderful Joanna Shupe—who loves Kiss of a Demon King a whole lot, immediately saw the echoes of one of the most famous old school romances inside it, and came to talk to us about enemies to lovers romances, but ended up telling us all about that time she spent a lot of time researching penetrative sex in carriages. We had a great time, and hope you do, too!</p><p>Our next read-along episode will tackle the final two Wroth brothers with the two IAD novellas, <a href="https://amzn.to/2FZ8d4Q" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Warlord Wants Forever</em></a> (Nikolai) &amp; <a href="https://amzn.to/2WvFZnl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Untouchable</em></a> (Murdoch), available in the Deep Kiss of Winter anthology! This will be the last time we tackle vampires until Lothaire, so get your fill! </p><p>A Note: There are two version of The Warlord Wants Forever — you want the most recent version. </p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li><a href="http://www.joannashupe.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joanna Shupe</a>&nbsp;writes delightful Gilded Age romances. Check out this twitter thread where Jen&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1038219302971891712" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">raved about A Daring Arrangement</a>.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1070131375456563200" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah was hunting for that Lora Leigh book</a>&nbsp;on Twitter.</li><li>Goodreads reviewers have feelings about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/774060.Prisoner_of_My_Desire?from_search=true" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Prisoner of My Desire</a>.</li><li>Of course there's a YouTube channel of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBH1PpAu9UZ0Dkn6qGqGsmg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">classic clips from Candid Camera</a>.</li><li><a href="http://mentalfloss.com/article/565731/eleanor-aquitaine-facts" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Eleanor of Aquitaine</a>&nbsp;is an amazing woman. The 1968 film&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/film/2009/apr/01/the-lion-in-winter-reel-history" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Lion in Winter</a>&nbsp;stars Katherine Hepburn and&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1085905338811994112" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Peter O'Toole</a>.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2t5IXBt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hot Island Nights</a>&nbsp;is the prequel to Her Best Worst Mistake.</li><li>Jen also talked about&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2t5IXBt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Matter of Disagreement</a>&nbsp;on Twitter.</li><li>Consider this a placeholder in case Joanna shares links from her sex in a carraige research. Jen's a little afraid to google search that one.</li><li>A&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barouche" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">barouche</a>&nbsp;is a real thing, and you can learn more about all of it at the&nbsp;<a href="https://longislandmuseum.org/exhibitions/the-carriage-museum/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Carriage Museum</a>&nbsp;in Long Island.</li><li>We return to IAD next time with two Wroth brother novellas, the first is&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2MScXKa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Warlord Wants Forever</a>&nbsp;(an earlier version of this was available in an anthology called&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2GcuOej" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Playing Easy to Get</a>. It is not HUGELY different, so it's okay if you just have that one--we'll talk about the differences during the episode.) The second is called Untouchable and available in the&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2GrBNiX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Deep Kiss of Winter anthology</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/2/5/65-freewheeling-with-joanna-shupe </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, we’re having a fun, far-reaching conversation with the wonderful Joanna Shupe—who loves Kiss of a Demon King a whole lot, immediately saw the echoes of one of the most famous old school romances inside it, and came to talk to us about enemies to lovers romances, but ended up telling us all about that time she spent a lot of time researching penetrative sex in carriages. We had a great time, and hope you do, too!</p><p>Our next read-along episode will tackle the final two Wroth brothers with the two IAD novellas, <a href="https://amzn.to/2FZ8d4Q" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Warlord Wants Forever</em></a> (Nikolai) &amp; <a href="https://amzn.to/2WvFZnl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Untouchable</em></a> (Murdoch), available in the Deep Kiss of Winter anthology! This will be the last time we tackle vampires until Lothaire, so get your fill! </p><p>A Note: There are two version of The Warlord Wants Forever — you want the most recent version. </p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li><a href="http://www.joannashupe.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joanna Shupe</a>&nbsp;writes delightful Gilded Age romances. Check out this twitter thread where Jen&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1038219302971891712" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">raved about A Daring Arrangement</a>.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1070131375456563200" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah was hunting for that Lora Leigh book</a>&nbsp;on Twitter.</li><li>Goodreads reviewers have feelings about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/774060.Prisoner_of_My_Desire?from_search=true" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Prisoner of My Desire</a>.</li><li>Of course there's a YouTube channel of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBH1PpAu9UZ0Dkn6qGqGsmg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">classic clips from Candid Camera</a>.</li><li><a href="http://mentalfloss.com/article/565731/eleanor-aquitaine-facts" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Eleanor of Aquitaine</a>&nbsp;is an amazing woman. The 1968 film&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/film/2009/apr/01/the-lion-in-winter-reel-history" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Lion in Winter</a>&nbsp;stars Katherine Hepburn and&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1085905338811994112" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Peter O'Toole</a>.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2t5IXBt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hot Island Nights</a>&nbsp;is the prequel to Her Best Worst Mistake.</li><li>Jen also talked about&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2t5IXBt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Matter of Disagreement</a>&nbsp;on Twitter.</li><li>Consider this a placeholder in case Joanna shares links from her sex in a carraige research. Jen's a little afraid to google search that one.</li><li>A&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barouche" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">barouche</a>&nbsp;is a real thing, and you can learn more about all of it at the&nbsp;<a href="https://longislandmuseum.org/exhibitions/the-carriage-museum/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Carriage Museum</a>&nbsp;in Long Island.</li><li>We return to IAD next time with two Wroth brother novellas, the first is&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2MScXKa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Warlord Wants Forever</a>&nbsp;(an earlier version of this was available in an anthology called&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2GcuOej" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Playing Easy to Get</a>. It is not HUGELY different, so it's okay if you just have that one--we'll talk about the differences during the episode.) The second is called Untouchable and available in the&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2GrBNiX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Deep Kiss of Winter anthology</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/2/5/65-freewheeling-with-joanna-shupe </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/2/5/65-freewheeling-with-joanna-shupe]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5c59aaad71c10b14510cf761</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2019 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/238fc2af-b1a3-4de7-9388-0389801a4d8f/fatedmates-joannashupe-final.mp3" length="52117521" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>49:56</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>15</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>15</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><itunes:summary>This week, we’re having a fun, far-reaching conversation with the wonderful Joanna Shupe—who loves Kiss of a Demon King a whole lot, immediately saw the echoes of one of the most famous old school romances inside it, and came to talk to us about enemies to lovers romances, but ended up telling us all about that time she spent a lot of time researching penetrative sex in carriages. We had a great time, and hope you do, too!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-238fc2af-b1a3-4de7-9388-0389801a4d8f.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>6: Reclaiming the Unlikeable Heroine: Kiss of a Demon King</title><itunes:title>Reclaiming the Unlikeable Heroine: Kiss of a Demon King</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>One of the best loved books in the IAD universe, this week we’re talking about Kiss of A Demon King, the completion of the Demonarchy Duology, starring Rydstrom, the deposed King of Rothkalina, and his fated mate, Sabine, the Queen of Illusions, which is an incredibly handy power. </p><p>We’ve got a fabulous guest host this week, Jenny Nordbak from our sister romance podcast, The Wicked Wallflowers Club. Jenny is ride-or-die for Sabine, and she’s got a fabulous personal story about her relationship with the book that we’re thrilled to share with you.</p><p>This episode, we’re talking traumatic pasts, Latin references, horns (I mean, obviously), villains,  the unlikeable heroine (a whole lot), and we’ll come back around to Cade &amp; Holly and tackle the unfinished business from their book!</p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review. </p><p>Novellas are up next! We told you we’d get to the rest of the Wroth Brothers eventually, and eventually is here! Our next read-along episode will tackle both novellas, <a href="https://amzn.to/2FZ8d4Q" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Warlord Wants Forever</em></a> (Nikolai) &amp; <a href="https://amzn.to/2WvFZnl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Untouchable</em></a> (Murdoch), available in the Deep Kiss of Winter anthology! This will be the last time we tackle vampires until Lothaire, so get your fill! </p><p>A Note: There are two version of The Warlord Wants Forever — you want the most recent version. </p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Our special guest this week is <a href="https://twitter.com/JennyNordbak" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jenny Nordbak</a>, author of the memoir, <a href="https://amzn.to/2sUNK8P" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Scarlett Letters: My Secret Year of Men in an LA Dungeon</a> and co-host of the <a href="https://wickedwallflowersclub.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wicked Wallflowers Club</a> Podcast.</li><li>All about the <a href="https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is-a-freudian-slip-2795851" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">freudian slip.</a></li><li>Here is <a href="https://twitter.com/SuperWendy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wendy</a>'s blog post about <a href="http://wendythesuperlibrarian.blogspot.com/2018/11/tbrchallenge-2018-midlife-crisis.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the righted world</a>, along with a <a href="https://twitter.com/JenniferRNN/status/1081216777462444032" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twitter thread</a> that <a href="https://twitter.com/JenniferRNN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jennifer Porter</a> wrote that eloquently talks about the importance of this idea. <a href="https://teachmetonight.blogspot.com/2019/01/heas-and-righted-universe.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Teach Me Tonight</a> jumped in with a look at how this same phenomenon plays out in academia.</li><li>Jen's friend <a href="https://twitter.com/elegendre" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Liz, the Latin teacher</a>!, loved this book for the sheer number of classical allusions. Here's a report of some of her mort specific findings:</li><li>"mors, mortis" means death in Latin, so O-mort means "without death" or "in the way of death."</li><li>The <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouroboros" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ourbouros</a> is an ancient symbol that shows up in Egyptian traditions.</li><li>Finally, the invaders that Omort led into Tornin--the Invidia, Libitinae, and Undines--are also Latin allusions, and they're really evil in the classical world. (Invidia--this Latin word means jealousy and personified envy. Undines-- Latin word for female spirits that inhabit the water. Libitinae--has several meanings: the goddess of corpses (in her temple were kept the funeral apparatus and registries of death), the apparatus of funerals, or death itself.)</li><li>Jen's <a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/2018/09/domestic-violence-in-romance/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">interview with Adriana about Domestic Violence</a> in romance.</li><li>The name Sabine might be a reference to Rome's neighbors, the Sabines. <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rape_of_the_Sabine_Women" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The story of the abduction of the Sabine women&nbsp;</a>has been told <a href="http://smarthistory.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/sabine2.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">in art</a> <a href="https://www.ancient-origins.net/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/The-Intervention-of-the-Sabine-Women.jpg?itok=Njpn2IE5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">over and</a> <a href="https://www.pablopicasso.org/images/paintings/the-rape-of-the-sabine-women.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">over again</a>. It's intersting to consider why this name was used: perhaps to reclaim a story where sex was a weapon used against women?</li><li>Melanthe means "dark flower" in Latin, and she was <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melantho" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a minor character in the Odyssey</a>.</li><li>Gone with the Wind has <a href="https://electricliterature.com/how-i-bought-into-gone-with-the-winds-mythology-of-whiteness-727d30175f66" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a very problematic portrayal of the happy slave and the good master</a>. <a href="https://medium.com/@alinautrata/all-the-things-that-are-fucked-up-about-harry-potter-58267e1bf3ee" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">House elves aren't much better</a>.</li><li>The Wicked Wallflower's <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ileIRCUNZ0HoOYSrTsFBW0XxweCfYciaUsPYHiJNR-Y/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">IAD Spreadsheet of Wonder</a>.</li><li>All <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/BsXIHkqlUma/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the horn photos</a> are on Instagram.</li><li><a href="https://imagecomics.com/comics/series/saga" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Saga is an amazing comic</a>.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2WsaQBc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Babysitter's Club Summer Special</a>, and all the other amazing goodness of the Scholastic Book Club. And in case you didn't know, the <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2018/11/scholastic-book-fairs-magic/575809/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scholastic Book Club &amp; its Book Fairs&nbsp;</a>are still a thing.</li><li>Jenny's book is called <a href="https://amzn.to/2sUNK8P" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Scarlett Letters: My Secret Year of Men in an LA Dungeon</a>.</li><li>That <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0698634/plotsummary?ref_=tt_ov_pl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mr. Too Big</a> (not to be confused with <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Big_(Sex_and_the_City)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mr. Big</a>) Sex in the City episode.</li><li><a href="http://www.thearcanachronicles.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Arcana Chronicles</a> is a YA series by Kresley.</li><li>Why yes, both <a href="https://wickedwallflowersclub.com/?s=sarah+maclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah</a> and <a href="https://wickedwallflowersclub.com/category/bloggers-journos/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen&nbsp;</a>have been on the Wicked Wallflowers podcast. When you're done listening to this episode of Fated Mates, head over to listen, and don't forget their <a href="https://wickedwallflowersclub.com/2018/10/31/ep-52-kresley-cole-and-gena-showalter/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">interview with Kresley Cole &amp; Gena Showalter</a>!</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2FZ8d4Q" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Warlord Wants Forever</a> &amp; Untouchable (in the <a href="https://amzn.to/2WvFZnl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Deep Kiss of Winter</a> anthology) are coming up next.</li></ul><br/><h2>Lost Limb Count</h2><p><strong>Arms and Hands (3)</strong></p><ol><li><em>Conrad</em>&nbsp;cuts off his own hand with a rusty axe so he escape the "witched" chains his brothers locked him in. (<em>Dark Needs at Night's Edge</em>)</li><li><em>Cadeon</em>&nbsp;has both of his hands burned off in the same scene where he loses an eye. There's description of what Cade's baby fingers look like as they are re-growing. It's...kinda gross. (<em>Dark Desires After Dusk</em>)</li><li><em>Sebastian</em>&nbsp;pulverizes most of his right arm during the Hie. He regenerates. (<em>No Rest For the Wicked</em>)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Chest and Torso (1)</strong></p><ol><li>Omort severs&nbsp;<em>Rydstrom's</em>&nbsp;spine and punches through his torso in a fight. Sabine saves him and enlists Hag to help heal him. (<em>Kiss of a Demon King</em>)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Face and Eyes (2)</strong></p><ol><li><em>Bowen</em>&nbsp;loses an eye and most of his forehead during the Hie. Mariketa has cursed him and he can't heal until he returns to her. (<em>Wicked Deeds on a Winter's Night</em>)</li><li><em>Cadeon</em>&nbsp;loses an eye and part of his forehead and hair when fighting. It all regenerates. (<em>Dark Desires After Dusk</em>)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Legs and Feet (3)</strong></p><ol><li><em>Lachlain</em>&nbsp;tears off his own leg to reach Emma. He regenerates. (<em>A Hunger Like No Other</em>)</li><li><em>Mariketa</em>'s skull is fractured and her leg is torn from her body. She heals herself after Bowen lays on the ground. Ivy grows over her and heals her. (<em>Wicked Deeds on a Winter's Night</em>)</li><li><em>Thronos</em>&nbsp;is chasing Melananthe and loses a foot when a portal closes on it. (<em>Kiss of a Demon King</em>)</li></ol><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the best loved books in the IAD universe, this week we’re talking about Kiss of A Demon King, the completion of the Demonarchy Duology, starring Rydstrom, the deposed King of Rothkalina, and his fated mate, Sabine, the Queen of Illusions, which is an incredibly handy power. </p><p>We’ve got a fabulous guest host this week, Jenny Nordbak from our sister romance podcast, The Wicked Wallflowers Club. Jenny is ride-or-die for Sabine, and she’s got a fabulous personal story about her relationship with the book that we’re thrilled to share with you.</p><p>This episode, we’re talking traumatic pasts, Latin references, horns (I mean, obviously), villains,  the unlikeable heroine (a whole lot), and we’ll come back around to Cade &amp; Holly and tackle the unfinished business from their book!</p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review. </p><p>Novellas are up next! We told you we’d get to the rest of the Wroth Brothers eventually, and eventually is here! Our next read-along episode will tackle both novellas, <a href="https://amzn.to/2FZ8d4Q" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Warlord Wants Forever</em></a> (Nikolai) &amp; <a href="https://amzn.to/2WvFZnl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Untouchable</em></a> (Murdoch), available in the Deep Kiss of Winter anthology! This will be the last time we tackle vampires until Lothaire, so get your fill! </p><p>A Note: There are two version of The Warlord Wants Forever — you want the most recent version. </p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Our special guest this week is <a href="https://twitter.com/JennyNordbak" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jenny Nordbak</a>, author of the memoir, <a href="https://amzn.to/2sUNK8P" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Scarlett Letters: My Secret Year of Men in an LA Dungeon</a> and co-host of the <a href="https://wickedwallflowersclub.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wicked Wallflowers Club</a> Podcast.</li><li>All about the <a href="https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is-a-freudian-slip-2795851" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">freudian slip.</a></li><li>Here is <a href="https://twitter.com/SuperWendy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wendy</a>'s blog post about <a href="http://wendythesuperlibrarian.blogspot.com/2018/11/tbrchallenge-2018-midlife-crisis.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the righted world</a>, along with a <a href="https://twitter.com/JenniferRNN/status/1081216777462444032" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twitter thread</a> that <a href="https://twitter.com/JenniferRNN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jennifer Porter</a> wrote that eloquently talks about the importance of this idea. <a href="https://teachmetonight.blogspot.com/2019/01/heas-and-righted-universe.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Teach Me Tonight</a> jumped in with a look at how this same phenomenon plays out in academia.</li><li>Jen's friend <a href="https://twitter.com/elegendre" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Liz, the Latin teacher</a>!, loved this book for the sheer number of classical allusions. Here's a report of some of her mort specific findings:</li><li>"mors, mortis" means death in Latin, so O-mort means "without death" or "in the way of death."</li><li>The <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouroboros" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ourbouros</a> is an ancient symbol that shows up in Egyptian traditions.</li><li>Finally, the invaders that Omort led into Tornin--the Invidia, Libitinae, and Undines--are also Latin allusions, and they're really evil in the classical world. (Invidia--this Latin word means jealousy and personified envy. Undines-- Latin word for female spirits that inhabit the water. Libitinae--has several meanings: the goddess of corpses (in her temple were kept the funeral apparatus and registries of death), the apparatus of funerals, or death itself.)</li><li>Jen's <a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/2018/09/domestic-violence-in-romance/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">interview with Adriana about Domestic Violence</a> in romance.</li><li>The name Sabine might be a reference to Rome's neighbors, the Sabines. <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rape_of_the_Sabine_Women" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The story of the abduction of the Sabine women&nbsp;</a>has been told <a href="http://smarthistory.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/sabine2.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">in art</a> <a href="https://www.ancient-origins.net/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/The-Intervention-of-the-Sabine-Women.jpg?itok=Njpn2IE5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">over and</a> <a href="https://www.pablopicasso.org/images/paintings/the-rape-of-the-sabine-women.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">over again</a>. It's intersting to consider why this name was used: perhaps to reclaim a story where sex was a weapon used against women?</li><li>Melanthe means "dark flower" in Latin, and she was <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melantho" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a minor character in the Odyssey</a>.</li><li>Gone with the Wind has <a href="https://electricliterature.com/how-i-bought-into-gone-with-the-winds-mythology-of-whiteness-727d30175f66" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a very problematic portrayal of the happy slave and the good master</a>. <a href="https://medium.com/@alinautrata/all-the-things-that-are-fucked-up-about-harry-potter-58267e1bf3ee" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">House elves aren't much better</a>.</li><li>The Wicked Wallflower's <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ileIRCUNZ0HoOYSrTsFBW0XxweCfYciaUsPYHiJNR-Y/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">IAD Spreadsheet of Wonder</a>.</li><li>All <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/BsXIHkqlUma/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the horn photos</a> are on Instagram.</li><li><a href="https://imagecomics.com/comics/series/saga" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Saga is an amazing comic</a>.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2WsaQBc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Babysitter's Club Summer Special</a>, and all the other amazing goodness of the Scholastic Book Club. And in case you didn't know, the <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2018/11/scholastic-book-fairs-magic/575809/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scholastic Book Club &amp; its Book Fairs&nbsp;</a>are still a thing.</li><li>Jenny's book is called <a href="https://amzn.to/2sUNK8P" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Scarlett Letters: My Secret Year of Men in an LA Dungeon</a>.</li><li>That <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0698634/plotsummary?ref_=tt_ov_pl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mr. Too Big</a> (not to be confused with <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Big_(Sex_and_the_City)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mr. Big</a>) Sex in the City episode.</li><li><a href="http://www.thearcanachronicles.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Arcana Chronicles</a> is a YA series by Kresley.</li><li>Why yes, both <a href="https://wickedwallflowersclub.com/?s=sarah+maclean" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah</a> and <a href="https://wickedwallflowersclub.com/category/bloggers-journos/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen&nbsp;</a>have been on the Wicked Wallflowers podcast. When you're done listening to this episode of Fated Mates, head over to listen, and don't forget their <a href="https://wickedwallflowersclub.com/2018/10/31/ep-52-kresley-cole-and-gena-showalter/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">interview with Kresley Cole &amp; Gena Showalter</a>!</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2FZ8d4Q" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Warlord Wants Forever</a> &amp; Untouchable (in the <a href="https://amzn.to/2WvFZnl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Deep Kiss of Winter</a> anthology) are coming up next.</li></ul><br/><h2>Lost Limb Count</h2><p><strong>Arms and Hands (3)</strong></p><ol><li><em>Conrad</em>&nbsp;cuts off his own hand with a rusty axe so he escape the "witched" chains his brothers locked him in. (<em>Dark Needs at Night's Edge</em>)</li><li><em>Cadeon</em>&nbsp;has both of his hands burned off in the same scene where he loses an eye. There's description of what Cade's baby fingers look like as they are re-growing. It's...kinda gross. (<em>Dark Desires After Dusk</em>)</li><li><em>Sebastian</em>&nbsp;pulverizes most of his right arm during the Hie. He regenerates. (<em>No Rest For the Wicked</em>)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Chest and Torso (1)</strong></p><ol><li>Omort severs&nbsp;<em>Rydstrom's</em>&nbsp;spine and punches through his torso in a fight. Sabine saves him and enlists Hag to help heal him. (<em>Kiss of a Demon King</em>)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Face and Eyes (2)</strong></p><ol><li><em>Bowen</em>&nbsp;loses an eye and most of his forehead during the Hie. Mariketa has cursed him and he can't heal until he returns to her. (<em>Wicked Deeds on a Winter's Night</em>)</li><li><em>Cadeon</em>&nbsp;loses an eye and part of his forehead and hair when fighting. It all regenerates. (<em>Dark Desires After Dusk</em>)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Legs and Feet (3)</strong></p><ol><li><em>Lachlain</em>&nbsp;tears off his own leg to reach Emma. He regenerates. (<em>A Hunger Like No Other</em>)</li><li><em>Mariketa</em>'s skull is fractured and her leg is torn from her body. She heals herself after Bowen lays on the ground. Ivy grows over her and heals her. (<em>Wicked Deeds on a Winter's Night</em>)</li><li><em>Thronos</em>&nbsp;is chasing Melananthe and loses a foot when a portal closes on it. (<em>Kiss of a Demon King</em>)</li></ol><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/1/7/6-kiss-of-a-demon-king </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/1/7/6-kiss-of-a-demon-king]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5c3390e540ec9aca7a41b846</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2019 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/288d35d9-3f31-4a6c-b455-ce791fef17ff/fated-mates-book6-kiss-of-a-demon-king-final.mp3" length="77460213" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:13:07</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>14</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><itunes:summary>One of the best loved books in the IAD universe, this week we’re talking about Kiss of A Demon King, the completion of the Demonarchy Duology, starring Rydstrom, the deposed King of Rothkalina, and his fated mate, Sabine, the Queen of Illusions, which is an incredibly handy power. 

We’ve got a fabulous guest host this week, Jenny Nordbak from our sister romance podcast, The Wicked Wallflowers Club. Jenny is ride-or-die for Sabine, and she’s got a fabulous personal story about her relationship with the book that we’re thrilled to share with you.

This episode, we’re talking traumatic pasts, Latin references, horns (I mean, obviously), villains,  the unlikeable heroine (a whole lot), and we’ll come back around to Cade &amp; Holly and tackle the unfinished business from their book!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-288d35d9-3f31-4a6c-b455-ce791fef17ff.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>5.5: Road Trip Romances</title><itunes:title>Road Trip Romances</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We’ve got Doritos, a stack of Cosmo sex quizzes and an epic mixtape ready to go — Sarah and Jen are talking about road trips and the inevitable smooching that comes with them in romance!  </p><p>Next week, we’re back to the Rage Demonarchy Duology with <a href="https://amzn.to/2ssBdcD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Kiss of A Demon King</em></a>&nbsp;— where we get the full wrap up of the plot of the second in the duology, and the wrap up of the plot of <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/5-dark-desires-after-dusk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Dark Desires After Dusk</em></a>. We’ve seen Rydstrom total his McLaren and get abducted by Sabine, who is not only Queen of Illusions but also his Fated Mate and he’s not feeling great about this at all (Spoiler: We feel very great about this.) We’ll be joined by the fabulous Jenny Nordbak from <a href="https://wickedwallflowersclub.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Wicked Wallflowers</a> podcast for part of the conversation, and it will be a longer episode than usual because of that!  </p><p>Get ready for the KoaDK read along at&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2ssBdcD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/kiss-of-a-demon-king-kresley-cole/1100335246#/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/book/kiss-of-a-demon-king/id381496616?mt=11&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>&nbsp;or&nbsp;<a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781416580942" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>. Also, the Audible versions of IAD are on sale right now -- and WORTH EVERY PENNY!&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2MckIui" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Listen on Audio</a>!  </p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li><a href="https://www.texasmonthly.com/the-daily-post/how-big-is-texas-compared-to-other-land-masses/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Texas is very big</a>, everyone.&nbsp;</li><li>Here's some&nbsp;<a href="https://expandedramblings.com/index.php/starbucks-statistics/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">interesting facts about Starbucks</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Jen had no idea how posting horses worked until&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/elisabethjlane/status/980224062155837440" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Elisabeth Lane</a>&nbsp;asked on Twitter. (Sarah knew.)</li><li>Looking for books with carriage sex?&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/Aqueda_Veronica/status/1036006721951604736" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter has recs</a>&nbsp;for you.&nbsp;</li><li>Learn more about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/carnegie-gilded/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Gilded Age</a>&nbsp;in America.&nbsp;</li><li>New York's&nbsp;<a href="https://www.grandcentralterminal.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Grand Central Station</a>&nbsp;is absolutely magical.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://hildene.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hildene</a>, a museum of Lincoln's family home, has a&nbsp;<a href="https://hildene.org/visiting/estate/pullman" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">full-scale reproduction of an amazing private rail car</a>...It's amazing how&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/TheKarenHawkins/status/1084633594478383104" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">someone on Twitter will always know the good things</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>All about&nbsp;<a href="https://bellatory.com/fashion-industry/The-Bustle-Era-Womens-Fashions-of-the-1870s-1880s" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bustles</a>.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2TbYThi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Trading Places</a>&nbsp;is a 1983 comedy with Eddie Murphy and Dan Ackroyd, and the blog&nbsp;<a href="https://obscuretrainmovies.wordpress.com/2017/07/01/trading-places-1983/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Obscure Train Movies</a>&nbsp;has an extensive break down of the train scenes from the movie.&nbsp;</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/anidifranco" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ani Difranco</a>&nbsp;poem Sarah mentioned is called&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/7g2td05ZUck" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Self-Evident</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Buy yourself a&nbsp;<a href="https://www.coldsteel.com/butterfly-swords.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">set of butterfly swords</a>&nbsp;for $500. JK. That's probably a really bad idea.</li><li>Here's an overview of the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ancient.eu/Tang_Dynasty/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tang Dynasty</a>, and its capital&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ancient.eu/Chang'an/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chang'an</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>If you haven't seen&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2T2KdRk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mad Max Fury Road</a>&nbsp;you should probably drop everything and take care of it.&nbsp;</li><li>In case you were wondering&nbsp;<a href="https://www.timemaps.com/history/world-750ad/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">what the world looked like in 750</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.timemaps.com/history/middle-east-750ad/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Time Maps</a>&nbsp;has you covered.&nbsp;</li><li>Here's a list of rich heroines/poor heroes&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show/rich-heroine-poor-hero" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from goodreads</a>.</li><li>A quick summary of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.sparknotes.com/lit/pygmalion/summary/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pygmalion</a>, and if you happen to be in New York City, you can go see&nbsp;<a href="https://www.lct.org/shows/my-fair-lady/schedule/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">My Fair Lady at Lincoln Center</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/search?l=&amp;q=Tom%20Hardy%20from%3Asarahmaclean&amp;src=typd&amp;lang=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah talks about Tom Hardy a lot on Twitter</a>. Not that there's anything wrong with that.&nbsp;</li><li>Apparently, it is Low and High Fantasy, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/Fantasy/comments/3rzpsc/high_fantasy_and_low_fantasy_what_does_it_mean_to/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Reddit talked about the differences between them.</a></li><li>There's a&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/slurpee?lang=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Slurpee twitter account</a>, which shouldn't really surprise anyone if you think about it.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.greekmythology.com/Myths/Mortals/Oedipus/oedipus.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Whoops, it's my Mom</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/1/18/55-road-trip-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We’ve got Doritos, a stack of Cosmo sex quizzes and an epic mixtape ready to go — Sarah and Jen are talking about road trips and the inevitable smooching that comes with them in romance!  </p><p>Next week, we’re back to the Rage Demonarchy Duology with <a href="https://amzn.to/2ssBdcD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Kiss of A Demon King</em></a>&nbsp;— where we get the full wrap up of the plot of the second in the duology, and the wrap up of the plot of <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/5-dark-desires-after-dusk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Dark Desires After Dusk</em></a>. We’ve seen Rydstrom total his McLaren and get abducted by Sabine, who is not only Queen of Illusions but also his Fated Mate and he’s not feeling great about this at all (Spoiler: We feel very great about this.) We’ll be joined by the fabulous Jenny Nordbak from <a href="https://wickedwallflowersclub.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Wicked Wallflowers</a> podcast for part of the conversation, and it will be a longer episode than usual because of that!  </p><p>Get ready for the KoaDK read along at&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2ssBdcD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/kiss-of-a-demon-king-kresley-cole/1100335246#/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/book/kiss-of-a-demon-king/id381496616?mt=11&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>&nbsp;or&nbsp;<a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781416580942" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>. Also, the Audible versions of IAD are on sale right now -- and WORTH EVERY PENNY!&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2MckIui" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Listen on Audio</a>!  </p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li><a href="https://www.texasmonthly.com/the-daily-post/how-big-is-texas-compared-to-other-land-masses/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Texas is very big</a>, everyone.&nbsp;</li><li>Here's some&nbsp;<a href="https://expandedramblings.com/index.php/starbucks-statistics/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">interesting facts about Starbucks</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Jen had no idea how posting horses worked until&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/elisabethjlane/status/980224062155837440" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Elisabeth Lane</a>&nbsp;asked on Twitter. (Sarah knew.)</li><li>Looking for books with carriage sex?&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/Aqueda_Veronica/status/1036006721951604736" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter has recs</a>&nbsp;for you.&nbsp;</li><li>Learn more about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/carnegie-gilded/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Gilded Age</a>&nbsp;in America.&nbsp;</li><li>New York's&nbsp;<a href="https://www.grandcentralterminal.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Grand Central Station</a>&nbsp;is absolutely magical.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://hildene.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hildene</a>, a museum of Lincoln's family home, has a&nbsp;<a href="https://hildene.org/visiting/estate/pullman" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">full-scale reproduction of an amazing private rail car</a>...It's amazing how&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/TheKarenHawkins/status/1084633594478383104" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">someone on Twitter will always know the good things</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>All about&nbsp;<a href="https://bellatory.com/fashion-industry/The-Bustle-Era-Womens-Fashions-of-the-1870s-1880s" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bustles</a>.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2TbYThi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Trading Places</a>&nbsp;is a 1983 comedy with Eddie Murphy and Dan Ackroyd, and the blog&nbsp;<a href="https://obscuretrainmovies.wordpress.com/2017/07/01/trading-places-1983/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Obscure Train Movies</a>&nbsp;has an extensive break down of the train scenes from the movie.&nbsp;</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/anidifranco" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ani Difranco</a>&nbsp;poem Sarah mentioned is called&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/7g2td05ZUck" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Self-Evident</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>Buy yourself a&nbsp;<a href="https://www.coldsteel.com/butterfly-swords.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">set of butterfly swords</a>&nbsp;for $500. JK. That's probably a really bad idea.</li><li>Here's an overview of the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ancient.eu/Tang_Dynasty/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tang Dynasty</a>, and its capital&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ancient.eu/Chang'an/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chang'an</a>.&nbsp;</li><li>If you haven't seen&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2T2KdRk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mad Max Fury Road</a>&nbsp;you should probably drop everything and take care of it.&nbsp;</li><li>In case you were wondering&nbsp;<a href="https://www.timemaps.com/history/world-750ad/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">what the world looked like in 750</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.timemaps.com/history/middle-east-750ad/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Time Maps</a>&nbsp;has you covered.&nbsp;</li><li>Here's a list of rich heroines/poor heroes&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show/rich-heroine-poor-hero" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">from goodreads</a>.</li><li>A quick summary of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.sparknotes.com/lit/pygmalion/summary/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pygmalion</a>, and if you happen to be in New York City, you can go see&nbsp;<a href="https://www.lct.org/shows/my-fair-lady/schedule/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">My Fair Lady at Lincoln Center</a>.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/search?l=&amp;q=Tom%20Hardy%20from%3Asarahmaclean&amp;src=typd&amp;lang=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah talks about Tom Hardy a lot on Twitter</a>. Not that there's anything wrong with that.&nbsp;</li><li>Apparently, it is Low and High Fantasy, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/Fantasy/comments/3rzpsc/high_fantasy_and_low_fantasy_what_does_it_mean_to/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Reddit talked about the differences between them.</a></li><li>There's a&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/slurpee?lang=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Slurpee twitter account</a>, which shouldn't really surprise anyone if you think about it.&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.greekmythology.com/Myths/Mortals/Oedipus/oedipus.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Whoops, it's my Mom</a>.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/1/18/55-road-trip-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/1/18/55-road-trip-interstitial]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5c42043821c67c24086506df</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2019 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/265216b7-309f-4789-8a5f-f9b7d46e4a02/roaadtrip-final-revc.mp3" length="54192526" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>50:01</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>13</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We’ve got Doritos, a stack of Cosmo sex quizzes and an epic mixtape ready to go — Sarah and Jen are talking about road trips and the inevitable smooching that comes with them in romance!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-265216b7-309f-4789-8a5f-f9b7d46e4a02.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>5: That Vessel Business: Dark Desires After Dusk</title><itunes:title>That Vessel Business: Dark Desires After Dusk</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>DEMONS ARE HERE! We’re talking&nbsp;Dark Desires After Dusk, starring Cadeon Woede  (Prince of the Rage Demonarchy) and Holly, his human fated mate (SPOILER SHE ISN’T HUMAN, WHAT!). This one is the first in what we will end up calling the Demonarchy Duology — and we encourage you to read the next book in the series, Kiss of A Demon King as soon as you can after reading Dark Desires. Each book makes the other better. We’ll cover female rage, sex shaming, fast cars, food, feminism and…maybe a pot joke? Also, Sarah waxes on about horns. A lot. </p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review. </p><p>Our next read (in two weeks) will be <a href="https://amzn.to/2ssBdcD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Kiss of A Demon King</em></a>&nbsp;— the second in the duology, and the wrap up of the plot of this book. We’ve seen Rydstrom total his McLaren and get abducted by Sabine, who is not only Queen of Illusions but also his Fated Mate. DOUBLE TROUBLE. Cade and Holly are a HUGE part of our episode on Sabine &amp; Rydstrom’s — because we just can’t talk about one of these books alone. </p><p>Get ready for the KoaDK read along at&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2ssBdcD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/kiss-of-a-demon-king-kresley-cole/1100335246#/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/book/kiss-of-a-demon-king/id381496616?mt=11&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>&nbsp;or&nbsp;<a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781416580942" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>. Also, the Audible versions of IAD are on sale right now -- and WORTH EVERY PENNY!&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2MckIui" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Listen on Audio</a>!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><p>A quick primer to the verbs&nbsp;<a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/depose" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">deposed</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dethrone" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">dethroned</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/defrocked" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">defrocked</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/usurp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">usurped</a>.</p><p>Groot the Metallurgist is&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/KSxG05300Nc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">not a cute dancing tree</a>, but rather the half-brother of Omort the Deathless. This Groot has forged a sword that can kill Omort.</p><p>Jen went back to&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2VPjVnr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dark Needs at Night's Edge</a>&nbsp;and here is a&nbsp;<a href="http://goo.gl/dDo1Rq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">screenshot</a>&nbsp;of the scene where both Rydstrom and Cadeon choose their kingdom over their fated mates. Nix was not amused.</p><p><a href="https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/romancing-the-stone-1984" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Romancing the Stone</a>&nbsp;is a rather amazing 80s adventure movie that stars Kathleen Turner as a romance author who travels to Colombia, where she has to trade a treasure map to free her sister. The sequel is&nbsp;<a href="https://www.denofgeek.com/us/movies/jewel-of-the-nile/270093/the-troubled-production-of-the-jewel-of-the-nile" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Jewel of the Nile</a>, but it's not as good.</p><p><a href="http://immortalsafterdarkiad.wikia.com/wiki/Valkyrie" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Freya and Woden</a>&nbsp;are two of the three parents to every valkyrie that is created.</p><p>Jen says Holly is "some bullshitty one thing away" from being done with her PhD, but the phrase she was looking for was&nbsp;<a href="https://slate.com/human-interest/2014/08/abds-all-but-dissertation-ph-d-candidates-who-cant-quite-finish.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ABD (All But Dissertation).</a></p><p>A&nbsp;<a href="https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MacGuffin?from=Main.McGuffin" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MacGuffin</a>&nbsp;is an object that drives the plot.</p><p><a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/10/the-grisly-all-american-appeal-of-serial-killers/381690/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Serial killers are creepy AF</a>.</p><p>Women should not be treated like&nbsp;<a href="https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/headlines-pregnancy-lancet-study-women-pergnant-alcohol-smoking-lifestyle-coffee-a8308676.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">incubators</a>.</p><p>Genetic (or biological) determinism&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-06784-5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">is a problem</a>.</p><p>For some reason, even with all the talk of eating and not eating, Jen and Sarah failed to bring up the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ancient.eu/persephone/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">myth of Persephone</a>. #Fail.</p><p>Obsessive Compulsive Disorder&nbsp;<a href="https://iocdf.org/blog/2017/11/02/how-the-media-gets-ocd-all-wrong-uk-based-podcast-helps-ocd-sufferers-find-recovery/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">isn't always portrayed well in the media.&nbsp;</a>UPDATE: One of our listeners wrote this&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/bookpriestess/status/1087391936695205889" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">thoughtful thread on Holly's OCD</a>&nbsp;and you should read it.</p><p>The phrase "Heavy is the head that wears the crown" is from&nbsp;<a href="https://literarydevices.net/heavy-is-the-head-that-wears-the-crown/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shakespeare</a>.</p><p><a href="http://marinesciencetoday.com/2017/02/14/lobsters-a-love-story/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lobsters are always about love</a>.</p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/BsXIHkqlUma/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>&nbsp;and Twitter&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1082438568159690752" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">horn talk</a>.</p><p>One of our listeners&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/SerAnya1/status/1080565156638273544" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">painted an amazing portrait of Nix</a>.</p><p>Along with that 50% more blood thing,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.huffpost.com/entry/pregnancy-changes_n_3790822" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">pregnant bodies are kind of amazing</a>.</p><p>Jen did some&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1075831734598582272" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">emergency research</a>&nbsp;to find out about the etymology of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.etymonline.com/word/penis#etymonline_v_12621" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sword</a>, gladius (<a href="https://youtu.be/ooBvzeguzBc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this video</a>! lol),&nbsp;<a href="https://www.etymonline.com/word/scabbard#etymonline_v_22816" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">scabbard</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.etymonline.com/word/vagina#etymonline_v_4600" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">vagina</a>.</p><p>A&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bugatti.com/veyron/veyron-164/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bugatti Veyron&nbsp;</a>is very sexy,&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/Jivi_Todayiread/status/1084609239539240960" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">very speedy</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/bugatti-veyron-oil-change/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">very spendy</a>. One of our listeners noticed that there is no mile marker 775 in Mississippi, but&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/J_Todayiread/status/1085727109887217670" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">there is something special</a>&nbsp;about Mississippi River mile marker 775.</p><p><a href="http://www.sarahmaclean.net/about-sarah" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Stig</a>&nbsp;read Sarah's book on Top Gear!</p><p>Groot and Omort are only one letter away, which maybe means nothing; but&nbsp;<a href="https://theweek.com/articles/464433/palindromes-anagrams-9-other-names-alphabetical-antics" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">playing games with words</a>&nbsp;is fun.</p><p>The&nbsp;<a href="https://pics.ballmemes.com/what-the-author-meant-what-your-english-teacher-thinks-the-30274161.png" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Venn Diagram</a>&nbsp;of what the author means vs. what English teachers think it means.</p><p>Jen loves&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/blog/rombklove-day-3-groveling" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">groveling&nbsp;</a>a lot.</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/420_(cannabis_culture)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">420</a>. I mean, that&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/12/us/washington-highway-sign-420.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">can't be an accident</a>, right? Updated: On Instagram, follower&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/ellenino22/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ellenino22</a>&nbsp;pointed out that 420 is "the smallest number divisible by 1-7." Whoa.</p><p><a href="https://www.literarydisco.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Literary Disco</a>&nbsp;is a podcast with lots of great games.</p><p><a href="https://info.harpercollins.com/kisscon/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Avon's KissCon</a>&nbsp;will be in Chicago the first weekend of April 2019.</p><p>Everyone but Sarah should watch these&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/CNN/status/970037604682010625" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">videos of planes</a>&nbsp;<a...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DEMONS ARE HERE! We’re talking&nbsp;Dark Desires After Dusk, starring Cadeon Woede  (Prince of the Rage Demonarchy) and Holly, his human fated mate (SPOILER SHE ISN’T HUMAN, WHAT!). This one is the first in what we will end up calling the Demonarchy Duology — and we encourage you to read the next book in the series, Kiss of A Demon King as soon as you can after reading Dark Desires. Each book makes the other better. We’ll cover female rage, sex shaming, fast cars, food, feminism and…maybe a pot joke? Also, Sarah waxes on about horns. A lot. </p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review. </p><p>Our next read (in two weeks) will be <a href="https://amzn.to/2ssBdcD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Kiss of A Demon King</em></a>&nbsp;— the second in the duology, and the wrap up of the plot of this book. We’ve seen Rydstrom total his McLaren and get abducted by Sabine, who is not only Queen of Illusions but also his Fated Mate. DOUBLE TROUBLE. Cade and Holly are a HUGE part of our episode on Sabine &amp; Rydstrom’s — because we just can’t talk about one of these books alone. </p><p>Get ready for the KoaDK read along at&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2ssBdcD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/kiss-of-a-demon-king-kresley-cole/1100335246#/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/book/kiss-of-a-demon-king/id381496616?mt=11&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>&nbsp;or&nbsp;<a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781416580942" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>. Also, the Audible versions of IAD are on sale right now -- and WORTH EVERY PENNY!&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2MckIui" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Listen on Audio</a>!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><p>A quick primer to the verbs&nbsp;<a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/depose" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">deposed</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dethrone" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">dethroned</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/defrocked" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">defrocked</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/usurp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">usurped</a>.</p><p>Groot the Metallurgist is&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/KSxG05300Nc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">not a cute dancing tree</a>, but rather the half-brother of Omort the Deathless. This Groot has forged a sword that can kill Omort.</p><p>Jen went back to&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2VPjVnr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dark Needs at Night's Edge</a>&nbsp;and here is a&nbsp;<a href="http://goo.gl/dDo1Rq" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">screenshot</a>&nbsp;of the scene where both Rydstrom and Cadeon choose their kingdom over their fated mates. Nix was not amused.</p><p><a href="https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/romancing-the-stone-1984" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Romancing the Stone</a>&nbsp;is a rather amazing 80s adventure movie that stars Kathleen Turner as a romance author who travels to Colombia, where she has to trade a treasure map to free her sister. The sequel is&nbsp;<a href="https://www.denofgeek.com/us/movies/jewel-of-the-nile/270093/the-troubled-production-of-the-jewel-of-the-nile" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Jewel of the Nile</a>, but it's not as good.</p><p><a href="http://immortalsafterdarkiad.wikia.com/wiki/Valkyrie" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Freya and Woden</a>&nbsp;are two of the three parents to every valkyrie that is created.</p><p>Jen says Holly is "some bullshitty one thing away" from being done with her PhD, but the phrase she was looking for was&nbsp;<a href="https://slate.com/human-interest/2014/08/abds-all-but-dissertation-ph-d-candidates-who-cant-quite-finish.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ABD (All But Dissertation).</a></p><p>A&nbsp;<a href="https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MacGuffin?from=Main.McGuffin" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MacGuffin</a>&nbsp;is an object that drives the plot.</p><p><a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/10/the-grisly-all-american-appeal-of-serial-killers/381690/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Serial killers are creepy AF</a>.</p><p>Women should not be treated like&nbsp;<a href="https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/headlines-pregnancy-lancet-study-women-pergnant-alcohol-smoking-lifestyle-coffee-a8308676.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">incubators</a>.</p><p>Genetic (or biological) determinism&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-06784-5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">is a problem</a>.</p><p>For some reason, even with all the talk of eating and not eating, Jen and Sarah failed to bring up the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ancient.eu/persephone/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">myth of Persephone</a>. #Fail.</p><p>Obsessive Compulsive Disorder&nbsp;<a href="https://iocdf.org/blog/2017/11/02/how-the-media-gets-ocd-all-wrong-uk-based-podcast-helps-ocd-sufferers-find-recovery/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">isn't always portrayed well in the media.&nbsp;</a>UPDATE: One of our listeners wrote this&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/bookpriestess/status/1087391936695205889" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">thoughtful thread on Holly's OCD</a>&nbsp;and you should read it.</p><p>The phrase "Heavy is the head that wears the crown" is from&nbsp;<a href="https://literarydevices.net/heavy-is-the-head-that-wears-the-crown/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shakespeare</a>.</p><p><a href="http://marinesciencetoday.com/2017/02/14/lobsters-a-love-story/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lobsters are always about love</a>.</p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/BsXIHkqlUma/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>&nbsp;and Twitter&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1082438568159690752" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">horn talk</a>.</p><p>One of our listeners&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/SerAnya1/status/1080565156638273544" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">painted an amazing portrait of Nix</a>.</p><p>Along with that 50% more blood thing,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.huffpost.com/entry/pregnancy-changes_n_3790822" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">pregnant bodies are kind of amazing</a>.</p><p>Jen did some&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1075831734598582272" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">emergency research</a>&nbsp;to find out about the etymology of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.etymonline.com/word/penis#etymonline_v_12621" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sword</a>, gladius (<a href="https://youtu.be/ooBvzeguzBc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this video</a>! lol),&nbsp;<a href="https://www.etymonline.com/word/scabbard#etymonline_v_22816" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">scabbard</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.etymonline.com/word/vagina#etymonline_v_4600" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">vagina</a>.</p><p>A&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bugatti.com/veyron/veyron-164/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bugatti Veyron&nbsp;</a>is very sexy,&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/Jivi_Todayiread/status/1084609239539240960" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">very speedy</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/bugatti-veyron-oil-change/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">very spendy</a>. One of our listeners noticed that there is no mile marker 775 in Mississippi, but&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/J_Todayiread/status/1085727109887217670" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">there is something special</a>&nbsp;about Mississippi River mile marker 775.</p><p><a href="http://www.sarahmaclean.net/about-sarah" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Stig</a>&nbsp;read Sarah's book on Top Gear!</p><p>Groot and Omort are only one letter away, which maybe means nothing; but&nbsp;<a href="https://theweek.com/articles/464433/palindromes-anagrams-9-other-names-alphabetical-antics" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">playing games with words</a>&nbsp;is fun.</p><p>The&nbsp;<a href="https://pics.ballmemes.com/what-the-author-meant-what-your-english-teacher-thinks-the-30274161.png" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Venn Diagram</a>&nbsp;of what the author means vs. what English teachers think it means.</p><p>Jen loves&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/blog/rombklove-day-3-groveling" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">groveling&nbsp;</a>a lot.</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/420_(cannabis_culture)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">420</a>. I mean, that&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/12/us/washington-highway-sign-420.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">can't be an accident</a>, right? Updated: On Instagram, follower&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/ellenino22/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ellenino22</a>&nbsp;pointed out that 420 is "the smallest number divisible by 1-7." Whoa.</p><p><a href="https://www.literarydisco.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Literary Disco</a>&nbsp;is a podcast with lots of great games.</p><p><a href="https://info.harpercollins.com/kisscon/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Avon's KissCon</a>&nbsp;will be in Chicago the first weekend of April 2019.</p><p>Everyone but Sarah should watch these&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/CNN/status/970037604682010625" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">videos of planes</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/CNN/status/970037604682010625" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">landing in high winds</a>.</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/2CjduA1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kiss of a Demon King</a>&nbsp;is going to be epic, so get ready.</p><h2>Lost Limb Count</h2><p><strong>Legs (2)</strong></p><ol><li><em>Lachlain</em>&nbsp;tears off his own leg to reach Emma. He regenerates. (<em>A Hunger Like No Other</em>)</li><li><em>Mariketa</em>'s skull is fractured and her leg is torn from her body. She heals herself after Bowen lays on the ground. Ivy grows over her and heals her. (<em>Wicked Deeds on a Winter's Night</em>) ** Arms (1)**</li><li><em>Sebastian</em>&nbsp;pulverizes most of his right arm during the Hie. He regenerates. (<em>No Rest For the Wicked</em>)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Eyes (2)</strong></p><ol><li><em>Bowen</em>&nbsp;loses an eye and most of his forehead during the Hie. Mariketa has cursed him and he can't heal until he returns to her. (<em>Wicked Deeds on a Winter's Night</em>)</li><li><em>Cadeon</em>&nbsp;loses an eye and part of his forehead and hair when fighting. It all regenerates. (<em>Dark Desires After Dusk</em>)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Hands (2)</strong></p><ol><li><em>Conrad</em>&nbsp;cuts off his own hand with a rusty axe so he escape the "witched" chains his brothers locked him in. (<em>Dark Needs at Night's Edge</em>)</li><li><em>Cadeon</em>&nbsp;has both of his hands burned off in the same scene where he loses an eye. There's description of what Cade's baby fingers look like as they are re-growing. It's...kinda gross. (<em>Dark Desires After Dusk</em>)</li></ol><br/><p><strong>Horns (1)</strong></p><ol><li><em>Cadeon</em>&nbsp;files off his own horns in an attempt to win back Holly. She tells him to let them grow back. (<em>Dark Desires After Dusk</em>)</li></ol><br/><br><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/5-dark-desires-after-dusk </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/5-dark-desires-after-dusk]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5bfee2d60e2e722802eb5643</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2019 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/bf01e8a2-eed1-4683-8a32-60f5db13cd7a/fated-mates-episode-5-5-revb.mp3" length="80981972" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:16:07</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>12</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><itunes:summary>DEMONS ARE HERE! We’re talking Dark Desires After Dusk, starring Cadeon Woede  (Prince of the Rage Demonarchy) and Holly, his human fated mate (SPOILER SHE ISN’T HUMAN, WHAT!). This one is the first in what we will end up calling the Demonarchy Duology — and we encourage you to read the next book in the series, Kiss of A Demon King as soon as you can after reading Dark Desires. Each book makes the other better. We’ll cover female rage, sex shaming, fast cars, food, feminism and…maybe a pot joke? Also, Sarah waxes on about horns. A lot.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-bf01e8a2-eed1-4683-8a32-60f5db13cd7a.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>4.5: Curvy Heroines in Romance</title><itunes:title>Curvy Heroines in Romance - Interstitial</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Happy New Year, Fated Matesers (This isn’t a great name for us. We need a better name—someone name us)! We’re back, it’s 2019, new year, new us, and we’re starting as we mean to go on with Curvy Heroines, because, in the words of <a href="http://juliemurphywrites.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Julie Murphy</a>, Every Body is a Swimsuit Body. Jen and I love a curvy heroine, and the men who love them, and so curvy romances are OUR FAVES.</p><p>Next week, we’re getting into Demons! We’ve met Cade, the prince of Rothkalina (the Rage Demonarchy) and his brother Rydstrom, its deposed King, before — they were in the Talisman’s Hie, and in Néomi &amp; Conrad’s book. Next week, we tackle Cade &amp; Holly’s story, <a href="https://amzn.to/2QYhJv7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Dark Desires After Dusk</strong></a>, with Rydstrom &amp; Sabine’s book <a href="https://amzn.to/2AEaNZR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Kiss of a Demon King</strong></a><strong><em> </em></strong>two weeks later. We highly recommend reading these two close together!</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p>- In the summer of 2018, Jen and a bunch of people on Twitter discussed <em>Nine Rules to Break While Romancing a Rake</em> using the hashtag <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1026217219657752576" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#9RulesRake</a>.</p><p>- Sarah also has a curvy heroine romance that is coming in July! <a href="http://www.sarahmaclean.net/book-list/#/brazen-and-the-beast/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Brazen &amp; the Beast</em> has a gorgeous curvy heroine on the cover</a>.</p><p>- Just a reminder that <a href="http://jennycrusie.com/non-fiction/romancing-reality-the-power-of-romance-fiction-to-reinforce-and-re-vision-the-real/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jenny Crusie is completely awesome</a>, and <a href="https://amzn.to/2PhMYvC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Bet Me</em></a> is an amazing book.</p><p>- <a href="https://twitter.com/courtneymilan" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Courtney Milan</a> has <a href="https://www.shondaland.com/inspire/books/a16752742/courtney-milan-on-feminism-and-the-romance-novel/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lots to say about romance.</a> All of her books are amazing, but we talked about <a href="https://amzn.to/2PbASnx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Heiress Effect</em></a>.</p><p><em>- </em><a href="https://amzn.to/2Pf1AM6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Never Sweeter</em></a> by <a href="https://twitter.com/Charlotte_Stein" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Charlotte Stein</a> was awareded the platinum medal in Jen's "<a href="http://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2017/10/who-did-it-better-in-library.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Who Did It Better in the Library</a>" post.</p><p>- Romancelandia often <a href="https://amzn.to/2P7Qzfz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">recommends</a> <a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/2018/05/rec-league-plus-size-heroines/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">books with curvy</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/2QsGFd6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fat heroines</a>, and there are quite a few <a href="http://tartsweet.com/2017/08/05/guest-post-on-fat-heroines-in-romance-by-n-r-lines/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">thoughtful pieces</a> about how we think aobut these characters our ourselves.</p><p>- Naima Simone writes very excellent books and Jen &amp; Sarah want <a href="https://twitter.com/Naima_Simone/status/1081956051346440192" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this one</a> right now.</p><p>- Olivia Dade is an advocate for fat women in romance, and Jen and Sarah both loved <a href="https://twitter.com/OliviaWrites/status/1075142554994249728" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this thread</a> and want to read books about all these heroines.</p><p>- Check out the <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/45-curvy-heroines-interstitial#transcript" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">full transcript</a> for this episode.</p><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/45-curvy-heroines-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy New Year, Fated Matesers (This isn’t a great name for us. We need a better name—someone name us)! We’re back, it’s 2019, new year, new us, and we’re starting as we mean to go on with Curvy Heroines, because, in the words of <a href="http://juliemurphywrites.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Julie Murphy</a>, Every Body is a Swimsuit Body. Jen and I love a curvy heroine, and the men who love them, and so curvy romances are OUR FAVES.</p><p>Next week, we’re getting into Demons! We’ve met Cade, the prince of Rothkalina (the Rage Demonarchy) and his brother Rydstrom, its deposed King, before — they were in the Talisman’s Hie, and in Néomi &amp; Conrad’s book. Next week, we tackle Cade &amp; Holly’s story, <a href="https://amzn.to/2QYhJv7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Dark Desires After Dusk</strong></a>, with Rydstrom &amp; Sabine’s book <a href="https://amzn.to/2AEaNZR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Kiss of a Demon King</strong></a><strong><em> </em></strong>two weeks later. We highly recommend reading these two close together!</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p>- In the summer of 2018, Jen and a bunch of people on Twitter discussed <em>Nine Rules to Break While Romancing a Rake</em> using the hashtag <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1026217219657752576" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#9RulesRake</a>.</p><p>- Sarah also has a curvy heroine romance that is coming in July! <a href="http://www.sarahmaclean.net/book-list/#/brazen-and-the-beast/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Brazen &amp; the Beast</em> has a gorgeous curvy heroine on the cover</a>.</p><p>- Just a reminder that <a href="http://jennycrusie.com/non-fiction/romancing-reality-the-power-of-romance-fiction-to-reinforce-and-re-vision-the-real/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jenny Crusie is completely awesome</a>, and <a href="https://amzn.to/2PhMYvC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Bet Me</em></a> is an amazing book.</p><p>- <a href="https://twitter.com/courtneymilan" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Courtney Milan</a> has <a href="https://www.shondaland.com/inspire/books/a16752742/courtney-milan-on-feminism-and-the-romance-novel/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lots to say about romance.</a> All of her books are amazing, but we talked about <a href="https://amzn.to/2PbASnx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Heiress Effect</em></a>.</p><p><em>- </em><a href="https://amzn.to/2Pf1AM6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Never Sweeter</em></a> by <a href="https://twitter.com/Charlotte_Stein" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Charlotte Stein</a> was awareded the platinum medal in Jen's "<a href="http://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2017/10/who-did-it-better-in-library.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Who Did It Better in the Library</a>" post.</p><p>- Romancelandia often <a href="https://amzn.to/2P7Qzfz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">recommends</a> <a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/2018/05/rec-league-plus-size-heroines/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">books with curvy</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/2QsGFd6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fat heroines</a>, and there are quite a few <a href="http://tartsweet.com/2017/08/05/guest-post-on-fat-heroines-in-romance-by-n-r-lines/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">thoughtful pieces</a> about how we think aobut these characters our ourselves.</p><p>- Naima Simone writes very excellent books and Jen &amp; Sarah want <a href="https://twitter.com/Naima_Simone/status/1081956051346440192" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this one</a> right now.</p><p>- Olivia Dade is an advocate for fat women in romance, and Jen and Sarah both loved <a href="https://twitter.com/OliviaWrites/status/1075142554994249728" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this thread</a> and want to read books about all these heroines.</p><p>- Check out the <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/45-curvy-heroines-interstitial#transcript" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">full transcript</a> for this episode.</p><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/45-curvy-heroines-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/45-curvy-heroines-interstitial]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5bfee225b8a04587790fb068</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2019 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/e10df8ba-7968-4a1f-920e-121269dc1376/fated-mates-4-5-curvy.mp3" length="24486338" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>23:49</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>11</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Happy New Year, Fated Matesers (This isn’t a great name for us. We need a better name—someone name us)! We’re back, it’s 2019, new year, new us, and we’re starting as we mean to go on with Curvy Heroines, because, in the words of Julie Murphy, Every Body is a Swimsuit Body. Jen and I love a curvy heroine, and the men who love them, and so curvy romances are OUR FAVES.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-e10df8ba-7968-4a1f-920e-121269dc1376.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>4: A+, Would Risk Haunting: Dark Needs at Night&apos;s Edge</title><itunes:title>A+, Would Risk Haunting: Dark Needs at Night&apos;s Edge</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Book 4 is here and so are ghosts! We’re talking&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2QHsgtI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Dark Needs at Night's Edge</em></a>, starring Conrad  (the most tortured of the Wroth vampire brothers) and Néomi (the ghost trapped in the house where he’s held hostage while he dries out). We’ll cover heroines with agency, menstrual cycles, virgin heroes and the importance of family. Also, Jen is on about the moon again. &nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review.</p><p>Our next read (in two weeks) will be <a href="https://amzn.to/2QYhJv7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Dark Desires After Dusk</em></a> — the beginning of the Rage-Demonarchy duology, featuring Cadeon Woede, who is forced to choose between familial loyalty and his human (or is she?!) fated mate, brilliant mathematician, Holly.</p><p>Get ready for the read along at <a href="https://amzn.to/2QYhJv7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dark-desires-after-dusk-kresley-cole/1100335245" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/book/dark-desires-after-dusk/id381505414?mt=11&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781849834162" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>. Also, the Audible versions of IAD are on sale right now -- and WORTH EVERY PENNY! <a href="https://amzn.to/2LGsdtj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Listen on Audio</a>!</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p>- <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/09/why-do-people-believe-in-ghosts/379072/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ghosts are a human problem</a> and preoccupation.</p><p>- According to the Washington Post, <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/investigations/domestic-violence-murders/?noredirect=on&amp;utm_term=.44a142ccb87a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"nearly half of the women who were murdered during the past decade were killed by a current or former intimate partner."</a> Huge content warnings for everything in this article.</p><p>- <a href="https://amzn.to/2QZaPFT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Flame and the Flower</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/2CIhtb2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shanna</a>, and some of Sarah's thoughts about <a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/975939291640729600" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">rape in romance</a>.</p><p>- We talk about <a href="https://www.simplypsychology.org/psyche.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Id</a> a lot on Fated Mates, and we use it as a shorthand for our most primal, deep-rooted desires.</p><p>- "All happy families resemble one another; each unhappy family is unhappy in its own way" is the famous first line of <a href="https://amzn.to/2BSk2oZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Anna Karenina</a>. This <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/28/books/review/new-translations-of-tolstoys-anna-karenina.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">New York Times article about the many Tolstoy translations</a> is fascinating.</p><p>- Kresley Cole isn't the only one to use <a href="https://www.coursehero.com/lit/The-Awakening/symbols/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the menstrual cycle as a symbol</a>; but others wonder why <a href="https://www.sbs.com.au/topics/life/culture/article/2018/03/28/why-dont-fictional-characters-ever-have-their-period" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">menstruation is almost always absent from fiction.</a></p><p>- A crescent moon (or "sliver moon" as Neomi calls it) is <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_phase" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">never up at midnight</a>. Literally never.</p><p>- Jen rants a lot about first person narration a lot on Twitter, but it's super OTT, so just read this thread about first person narration <a href="https://twitter.com/RdotSpoon/status/1014895875653398528" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">that was started by Rebekah Weatherspoon</a>.</p><p>- Shortly after they recoreded this episode, <a href="https://lithub.com/jonathan-franzens-10-rules-for-novelists/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jonathan Franzen stanned for third person narration</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1063116659593015297" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen realized</a> she's just a handmaiden to the patriarchy.</p><p>- Jen strongly recommends <a href="https://amzn.to/2RrNpIC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heavy: An American Memoir by Kiese Laymon</a>. She saw <a href="https://youtu.be/qm_lJD-Iybg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kiese Laymon being interviewed by Lolly Bowean at the Chicago Humanities Festival</a>, and it was amazing.</p><p>- All people deserve <a href="https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/birth-control" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">birth control that's right for them</a>.</p><p>- Some romance readers love <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/977024439299837952" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">breaking in the ponies</a> with a <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/1661.Books_with_Virgin_Heroes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">virgin hero</a>.</p><p>- Arguably, <a href="https://www.swoonreads.com/blog/ask-editor-does-my-character-have-agency/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">agency</a> is the most important character trait.</p><p>- <a href="https://www.frommers.com/destinations/new-orleans/attractions/cemeteries" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">There are 45 cemetaries in New Orleans</a>, 31 are historic, and 5 are listed in the National Register of Historic Places.</p><p>- If you're planning to write a sitcom, <a href="https://medium.com/panel-frame/how-to-write-a-sitcom-seven-lessons-from-a-sitcom-writer-57493d55c840" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">know the formula</a>.</p><p>- In IAD, it's Thrane's Key; it Harry Potter, it's a <a href="https://www.pottermore.com/writing-by-jk-rowling/time-turner" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">time turner</a>.</p><p>- Get yourself some <a href="http://www.simonandschusterpublishing.com/sweet-ruin-audio/?fbclid=IwAR12tISsauDaHH5SDaJbr3GBCAS06W-1jFZx6Bts1rngunFU4vL16qUr9OQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">IAD ringtones</a>.</p><p>- Holly Ashwin and Cadeon Woede are up next in <a href="https://amzn.to/2QYhJv7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dark Desires After Dusk.</a></p><p><strong>Lost Limb Count</strong></p><p><strong>Legs (2)</strong></p><p><em>- Lachlain</em> tears off his own leg to reach Emma. He regenerates. (<em>A Hunger Like No Other</em>)</p><p><em> -Mariketa</em>'s skull is fractured and her leg is torn from her body. She heals herself after Bowen lays on the ground. Ivy grows over her and heals her. (<em>Wicked Deeds on a Winter's Night</em>)</p><p><strong>Arms (1)</strong></p><p><em> -Sebastian</em> pulverizes most of his right arm during the Hie. He regenerates. (<em>No Rest For the Wicked</em>)</p><p><strong>Eyes (1)</strong></p><p><em>- Bowen</em> loses an eye and most of his forehead during the Hie. Mariketa has cursed him and he can't heal until he returns to her. (<em>Wicked Deeds on a Winter's Night</em>)</p><p><strong>Hands (1)</strong></p><p><em>- Conrad</em> cuts off his own hand with a rusty axe so he escape the "witched" chains his brothers locked him in. (<em>Dark Needs at Night's Edge</em>)</p><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/4-something-we-said-dark-needs-at-nights-edge </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Book 4 is here and so are ghosts! We’re talking&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2QHsgtI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Dark Needs at Night's Edge</em></a>, starring Conrad  (the most tortured of the Wroth vampire brothers) and Néomi (the ghost trapped in the house where he’s held hostage while he dries out). We’ll cover heroines with agency, menstrual cycles, virgin heroes and the importance of family. Also, Jen is on about the moon again. &nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review.</p><p>Our next read (in two weeks) will be <a href="https://amzn.to/2QYhJv7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Dark Desires After Dusk</em></a> — the beginning of the Rage-Demonarchy duology, featuring Cadeon Woede, who is forced to choose between familial loyalty and his human (or is she?!) fated mate, brilliant mathematician, Holly.</p><p>Get ready for the read along at <a href="https://amzn.to/2QYhJv7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dark-desires-after-dusk-kresley-cole/1100335245" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/book/dark-desires-after-dusk/id381505414?mt=11&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781849834162" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>. Also, the Audible versions of IAD are on sale right now -- and WORTH EVERY PENNY! <a href="https://amzn.to/2LGsdtj" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Listen on Audio</a>!</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p>- <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/09/why-do-people-believe-in-ghosts/379072/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ghosts are a human problem</a> and preoccupation.</p><p>- According to the Washington Post, <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/investigations/domestic-violence-murders/?noredirect=on&amp;utm_term=.44a142ccb87a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"nearly half of the women who were murdered during the past decade were killed by a current or former intimate partner."</a> Huge content warnings for everything in this article.</p><p>- <a href="https://amzn.to/2QZaPFT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Flame and the Flower</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/2CIhtb2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shanna</a>, and some of Sarah's thoughts about <a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/975939291640729600" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">rape in romance</a>.</p><p>- We talk about <a href="https://www.simplypsychology.org/psyche.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Id</a> a lot on Fated Mates, and we use it as a shorthand for our most primal, deep-rooted desires.</p><p>- "All happy families resemble one another; each unhappy family is unhappy in its own way" is the famous first line of <a href="https://amzn.to/2BSk2oZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Anna Karenina</a>. This <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/28/books/review/new-translations-of-tolstoys-anna-karenina.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">New York Times article about the many Tolstoy translations</a> is fascinating.</p><p>- Kresley Cole isn't the only one to use <a href="https://www.coursehero.com/lit/The-Awakening/symbols/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the menstrual cycle as a symbol</a>; but others wonder why <a href="https://www.sbs.com.au/topics/life/culture/article/2018/03/28/why-dont-fictional-characters-ever-have-their-period" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">menstruation is almost always absent from fiction.</a></p><p>- A crescent moon (or "sliver moon" as Neomi calls it) is <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_phase" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">never up at midnight</a>. Literally never.</p><p>- Jen rants a lot about first person narration a lot on Twitter, but it's super OTT, so just read this thread about first person narration <a href="https://twitter.com/RdotSpoon/status/1014895875653398528" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">that was started by Rebekah Weatherspoon</a>.</p><p>- Shortly after they recoreded this episode, <a href="https://lithub.com/jonathan-franzens-10-rules-for-novelists/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jonathan Franzen stanned for third person narration</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1063116659593015297" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen realized</a> she's just a handmaiden to the patriarchy.</p><p>- Jen strongly recommends <a href="https://amzn.to/2RrNpIC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heavy: An American Memoir by Kiese Laymon</a>. She saw <a href="https://youtu.be/qm_lJD-Iybg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kiese Laymon being interviewed by Lolly Bowean at the Chicago Humanities Festival</a>, and it was amazing.</p><p>- All people deserve <a href="https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/birth-control" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">birth control that's right for them</a>.</p><p>- Some romance readers love <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/977024439299837952" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">breaking in the ponies</a> with a <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/1661.Books_with_Virgin_Heroes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">virgin hero</a>.</p><p>- Arguably, <a href="https://www.swoonreads.com/blog/ask-editor-does-my-character-have-agency/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">agency</a> is the most important character trait.</p><p>- <a href="https://www.frommers.com/destinations/new-orleans/attractions/cemeteries" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">There are 45 cemetaries in New Orleans</a>, 31 are historic, and 5 are listed in the National Register of Historic Places.</p><p>- If you're planning to write a sitcom, <a href="https://medium.com/panel-frame/how-to-write-a-sitcom-seven-lessons-from-a-sitcom-writer-57493d55c840" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">know the formula</a>.</p><p>- In IAD, it's Thrane's Key; it Harry Potter, it's a <a href="https://www.pottermore.com/writing-by-jk-rowling/time-turner" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">time turner</a>.</p><p>- Get yourself some <a href="http://www.simonandschusterpublishing.com/sweet-ruin-audio/?fbclid=IwAR12tISsauDaHH5SDaJbr3GBCAS06W-1jFZx6Bts1rngunFU4vL16qUr9OQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">IAD ringtones</a>.</p><p>- Holly Ashwin and Cadeon Woede are up next in <a href="https://amzn.to/2QYhJv7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dark Desires After Dusk.</a></p><p><strong>Lost Limb Count</strong></p><p><strong>Legs (2)</strong></p><p><em>- Lachlain</em> tears off his own leg to reach Emma. He regenerates. (<em>A Hunger Like No Other</em>)</p><p><em> -Mariketa</em>'s skull is fractured and her leg is torn from her body. She heals herself after Bowen lays on the ground. Ivy grows over her and heals her. (<em>Wicked Deeds on a Winter's Night</em>)</p><p><strong>Arms (1)</strong></p><p><em> -Sebastian</em> pulverizes most of his right arm during the Hie. He regenerates. (<em>No Rest For the Wicked</em>)</p><p><strong>Eyes (1)</strong></p><p><em>- Bowen</em> loses an eye and most of his forehead during the Hie. Mariketa has cursed him and he can't heal until he returns to her. (<em>Wicked Deeds on a Winter's Night</em>)</p><p><strong>Hands (1)</strong></p><p><em>- Conrad</em> cuts off his own hand with a rusty axe so he escape the "witched" chains his brothers locked him in. (<em>Dark Needs at Night's Edge</em>)</p><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/4-something-we-said-dark-needs-at-nights-edge </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/4-something-we-said-dark-needs-at-nights-edge]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5bfee1d0032be47376d55863</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2019 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/58b2a76c-a49f-497b-ab15-2a75f119b827/episode4-dnan-final-gold-reva-1.mp3" length="72331281" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:09:36</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>10</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Book 4 is here and so are ghosts! We’re talking Dark Needs at Night&apos;s Edge, starring Conrad  (the most tortured of the Wroth vampire brothers) and Néomi (the ghost trapped in the house where he’s held hostage while he dries out). We’ll cover heroines with agency, menstrual cycles, virgin heroes and the importance of family. Also, Jen is on about the moon again.</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-58b2a76c-a49f-497b-ab15-2a75f119b827.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>Horns, Claws, or Wolf Hologram: An AMA with Sarah &amp; Jen</title><itunes:title>Horns, Claws, or Wolf Hologram: An AMA with Sarah &amp; Jen</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It’s the holidays, and whether you’re the type to hole up on the couch and read, or go for a long walk to escape, we’ve got you covered. Get ready; we’re talking about horns. </p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><p>- Update: Jen got THREE books for Christmas this year! <a href="https://amzn.to/2Lx4xHJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">These</a> <a href="https://amzn.to/2BOYiuv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">two</a> from her brother, and her best friend gives perfect, <a href="https://amzn.to/2RfaIoX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#onbrand books</a>. Sarah got <a href="https://amzn.to/2Lzqfe7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Thomas Madden's Venice</a> and the Great British Bake Off coloring book. Does that count as a book?</p><p> - Sarah loves <a href="https://www.pbs.org/show/great-british-baking-show/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Great British Baking Show</a>, so you should watch. Or maybe you would just like to admire silver-fox, <a href="http://paulhollywood.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Paul Hollywood</a>.</p><p> -Here's a 1979 New York Times article about this new craze sweeping the nation: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/1979/02/28/archives/now-for-a-british-challenge-handraised-meat-pies-making-your-own.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">hand-raised pies</a>. Everthing old is new again in Sarah's house!</p><p>- Jen no longer has the decorative wooden book item, but she does like to window shop for <a href="https://www.potterybarn.com/products/pb-classic-glass-apothecary-jar/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">glass jars full of...things</a>.</p><p>- "<a href="https://www.civilized.life/articles/rob-schneider-reveals-the-origins-of-the-you-put-your-weed-in-there-guy/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">You can put your weed in there</a>" is an old SNL joke.</p><p>- <a href="https://www.enotes.com/homework-help/what-meaning-gatsbys-uncut-books-his-libary-what-332893" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gatsby's books are a symbol</a>, but maybe more than you wanted to know about <a href="https://collation.folger.edu/2016/08/uncut-unopened-untrimmed-uh-oh/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">how books are put together</a> and how <a href="https://youtu.be/Um91tmvCgC8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">pages are cut</a>.</p><p>- Read some more <a href="https://interestingengineering.com/10-of-the-best-reddit-amas" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AMAs</a> if you're in the mood, and you know Jen can't wait to read that first one.</p><p> - Strawberry <a href="https://www.huffpost.com/entry/what-is-rhubarb-fruit-or-vegetable_n_7534888" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rhubarb</a> pie is Sarah's favorite, and although Jen didn't mention it, a favorite pie she makes every summer is <a href="https://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/frozen-strawberry-margarita-pie-235487" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Strawberry Margarita pie</a>.</p><p>- Our favorite pie shops in <a href="http://www.houseofpies.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Houston</a>, <a href="https://gtpie.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Northern Michigan</a>, <a href="http://www.hoosiermamapie.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chicago</a>, and <a href="https://interestingengineering.com/10-of-the-best-reddit-amas" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brooklyn</a>.</p><p>- <a href="https://twitter.com/Charlotte_Stein" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Charlotte Stein</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/SoVerySophie" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sophie Jordan</a> are auto-buys, and <a href="https://amzn.to/2LA8P0K" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Kingdom of Dreams</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/2Rb1omb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dreaming of You</a>are comfort reads. Sarah's most re-read IAD book is <a href="https://amzn.to/2CzBmRn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sweet Ruin</a>, and Jen's is <a href="https://amzn.to/2BCT58N" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Demon from the Dark</a>.</p><p>- Kresley announced in her newsletter a few months ago that the next IAD book is Munro (he's <a href="https://amzn.to/2SqTbr6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Uilleam</a>'s twin brother).</p><p>- It's not only romance where we talk about <a href="https://www.anacoqui.com/2018/11/rombklove-day-9-unlikable-heroines-.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">unlikable heroines</a>, but it's also that <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/would-you-want-to-be-friends-with-humbert-humbert-a-forum-on-likeability" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">we only ask women authors</a> if their <a href="https://slate.com/culture/2013/05/likable-and-unlikable-characters-in-fiction-claire-messud-and-meg-wolitzer-against-commercial-fiction-writers.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">female characters are likable</a>.</p><p>- A quick overview of <a href="https://www.bustle.com/p/7-ways-gender-essentialism-hurts-everyone-43897" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gender essentalism</a>.</p><p>- A very long twitter thread where all of Romancelandia picked their <a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1054171224241303552" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">IAD dream cast</a>.</p><p>- Olivia Dade made a list of <a href="https://oliviadade.com/2017/12/11/warning-extra-gooey-cinnamon-roll-heroes-ahead/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">cinnamon roll heroes</a>.</p><p>- The ultimate romance rule is HEA or GTFO (Happily Ever After or Get the Fuck Out). There's also HFN, or Happy For Now. Here's the rest of Jen's <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1025740174393831424" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Romance Rules</a>.</p><p>- More about the the <a href="https://www.themarysue.com/problematic-faves/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">problematic fave</a></p><p>- <a href="https://writerunboxed.com/2015/12/04/your-kink-is-not-my-kink/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Your Kink is Not my Kink</a>, a very useful way to be respectful when something just isn't your jam. Also, Sarah would like to remind you that <a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1072631124541755392" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">decent people don't yuck other people's yum</a>.</p><p>- Jen could write odes to the arms of <a href="https://assets.vogue.com/photos/5891ca797edfa70512d66c3d/master/pass/00-holding-making-the-case-for-linda-hamilton-arms.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Linda Hamilton</a> and <a href="https://blackdoctor.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/angela-bassett-arms1-1.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Angela Basset</a> forever.</p><p>- Aidan Quinn, <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1075736965557948421" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">then</a> and <a href="https://youtu.be/iXFWOcTAQqY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">now</a>.</p><p>- We'll be ringing in 2019 with <a href="https://amzn.to/2VgTIxY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Neomi and Conrad</a>.</p><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/12/24/ama-with-sarah-amp-jen </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s the holidays, and whether you’re the type to hole up on the couch and read, or go for a long walk to escape, we’ve got you covered. Get ready; we’re talking about horns. </p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><p>- Update: Jen got THREE books for Christmas this year! <a href="https://amzn.to/2Lx4xHJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">These</a> <a href="https://amzn.to/2BOYiuv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">two</a> from her brother, and her best friend gives perfect, <a href="https://amzn.to/2RfaIoX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#onbrand books</a>. Sarah got <a href="https://amzn.to/2Lzqfe7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Thomas Madden's Venice</a> and the Great British Bake Off coloring book. Does that count as a book?</p><p> - Sarah loves <a href="https://www.pbs.org/show/great-british-baking-show/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Great British Baking Show</a>, so you should watch. Or maybe you would just like to admire silver-fox, <a href="http://paulhollywood.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Paul Hollywood</a>.</p><p> -Here's a 1979 New York Times article about this new craze sweeping the nation: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/1979/02/28/archives/now-for-a-british-challenge-handraised-meat-pies-making-your-own.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">hand-raised pies</a>. Everthing old is new again in Sarah's house!</p><p>- Jen no longer has the decorative wooden book item, but she does like to window shop for <a href="https://www.potterybarn.com/products/pb-classic-glass-apothecary-jar/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">glass jars full of...things</a>.</p><p>- "<a href="https://www.civilized.life/articles/rob-schneider-reveals-the-origins-of-the-you-put-your-weed-in-there-guy/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">You can put your weed in there</a>" is an old SNL joke.</p><p>- <a href="https://www.enotes.com/homework-help/what-meaning-gatsbys-uncut-books-his-libary-what-332893" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gatsby's books are a symbol</a>, but maybe more than you wanted to know about <a href="https://collation.folger.edu/2016/08/uncut-unopened-untrimmed-uh-oh/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">how books are put together</a> and how <a href="https://youtu.be/Um91tmvCgC8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">pages are cut</a>.</p><p>- Read some more <a href="https://interestingengineering.com/10-of-the-best-reddit-amas" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AMAs</a> if you're in the mood, and you know Jen can't wait to read that first one.</p><p> - Strawberry <a href="https://www.huffpost.com/entry/what-is-rhubarb-fruit-or-vegetable_n_7534888" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rhubarb</a> pie is Sarah's favorite, and although Jen didn't mention it, a favorite pie she makes every summer is <a href="https://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/frozen-strawberry-margarita-pie-235487" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Strawberry Margarita pie</a>.</p><p>- Our favorite pie shops in <a href="http://www.houseofpies.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Houston</a>, <a href="https://gtpie.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Northern Michigan</a>, <a href="http://www.hoosiermamapie.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chicago</a>, and <a href="https://interestingengineering.com/10-of-the-best-reddit-amas" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brooklyn</a>.</p><p>- <a href="https://twitter.com/Charlotte_Stein" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Charlotte Stein</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/SoVerySophie" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sophie Jordan</a> are auto-buys, and <a href="https://amzn.to/2LA8P0K" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Kingdom of Dreams</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/2Rb1omb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dreaming of You</a>are comfort reads. Sarah's most re-read IAD book is <a href="https://amzn.to/2CzBmRn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sweet Ruin</a>, and Jen's is <a href="https://amzn.to/2BCT58N" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Demon from the Dark</a>.</p><p>- Kresley announced in her newsletter a few months ago that the next IAD book is Munro (he's <a href="https://amzn.to/2SqTbr6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Uilleam</a>'s twin brother).</p><p>- It's not only romance where we talk about <a href="https://www.anacoqui.com/2018/11/rombklove-day-9-unlikable-heroines-.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">unlikable heroines</a>, but it's also that <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/would-you-want-to-be-friends-with-humbert-humbert-a-forum-on-likeability" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">we only ask women authors</a> if their <a href="https://slate.com/culture/2013/05/likable-and-unlikable-characters-in-fiction-claire-messud-and-meg-wolitzer-against-commercial-fiction-writers.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">female characters are likable</a>.</p><p>- A quick overview of <a href="https://www.bustle.com/p/7-ways-gender-essentialism-hurts-everyone-43897" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gender essentalism</a>.</p><p>- A very long twitter thread where all of Romancelandia picked their <a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1054171224241303552" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">IAD dream cast</a>.</p><p>- Olivia Dade made a list of <a href="https://oliviadade.com/2017/12/11/warning-extra-gooey-cinnamon-roll-heroes-ahead/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">cinnamon roll heroes</a>.</p><p>- The ultimate romance rule is HEA or GTFO (Happily Ever After or Get the Fuck Out). There's also HFN, or Happy For Now. Here's the rest of Jen's <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1025740174393831424" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Romance Rules</a>.</p><p>- More about the the <a href="https://www.themarysue.com/problematic-faves/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">problematic fave</a></p><p>- <a href="https://writerunboxed.com/2015/12/04/your-kink-is-not-my-kink/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Your Kink is Not my Kink</a>, a very useful way to be respectful when something just isn't your jam. Also, Sarah would like to remind you that <a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1072631124541755392" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">decent people don't yuck other people's yum</a>.</p><p>- Jen could write odes to the arms of <a href="https://assets.vogue.com/photos/5891ca797edfa70512d66c3d/master/pass/00-holding-making-the-case-for-linda-hamilton-arms.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Linda Hamilton</a> and <a href="https://blackdoctor.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/angela-bassett-arms1-1.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Angela Basset</a> forever.</p><p>- Aidan Quinn, <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1075736965557948421" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">then</a> and <a href="https://youtu.be/iXFWOcTAQqY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">now</a>.</p><p>- We'll be ringing in 2019 with <a href="https://amzn.to/2VgTIxY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Neomi and Conrad</a>.</p><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/12/24/ama-with-sarah-amp-jen </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/12/24/ama-with-sarah-amp-jen]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5c2129014ae237eaa78d2d31</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2018 05:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/db058f53-b7ff-4349-8216-49153ecac945/fated-mates-ama-1.mp3" length="70952950" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:13:34</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>9</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><itunes:summary>It’s the holidays, and whether you’re the type to hole up on the couch and read, or go for a long walk to escape, we’ve got you covered. Get ready; we’re talking about horns.</itunes:summary></item><item><title>3.5: Holiday Romance</title><itunes:title>Holiday Romances</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It’s the Holiday Season™️, which means it’s time to talk about Holiday romances! Get ready because there are A WHOLE LOT of books in this show. Also, get ready, because next week, on December 26th, instead of releasing our <a href="https://amzn.to/2Lpjs6x" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Dark Needs at Night’s Edge</strong></a> episode, we’re releasing a bonus Ask-us-Anything episode as a special holiday present to you!  </p><p>Our official IAD reread will resume January 2nd, with <a href="https://amzn.to/2Lpjs6x" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Néomi (ghost) &amp; Conrad (vampire)</a> and we have so. many. feelings. SO MANY.</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><p>- In case you're curious, here's where Jen learned to <a href="http://www.capetalk.co.za/articles/243029/mills-and-boon-finds-fresh-talent-in-cape-town" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">properly pronounce Therese Beharrie's name</a>. Therese wrote 2 Christmas books this year: <a href="https://amzn.to/2S3YU62" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>A Wedding One Christmas</strong></a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/2QQFZP1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Her Festive Flirtation</strong></a>, and Jen liked them both.</p><p><em>- </em><a href="https://amzn.to/2UQhWyy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Before Sunrise</em></a> came out in 1995, a sequel <a href="https://amzn.to/2EqYlQ7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Before Sunset</em></a> in 2004, and a third <a href="https://amzn.to/2ExxNgL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Before Midnight</em></a> in 2013. This <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/culture/richard-brody/before-midnight-after-birth" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">New Yorker review</a> is a perfect example of everything Jen hates when people review anything romantic, so hate-read it if you're in the mood.</p><p>- Jen completely got the name of that chapter book wrong, it's <a href="https://amzn.to/2Elq9oN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>The Best Christmas Pageant Ever</strong></a>.</p><p>- <a href="https://amzn.to/2SNA6zl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Novellas are really common in romance</a>, maybe more than other genres, and Jen anxioulsy awaits the think-piece explaining why.</p><p>- Speaking of novellas: The anthology of Chanukah stories that Sarah mentioned is called <a href="https://twitter.com/mance_whoa/status/1069982284604981248" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Burning Bright</strong></a>; <a href="https://amzn.to/2SPfA14" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Reindeer Games</strong> </a>is an anthology of stories with the snowed-in trope; and in <a href="https://amzn.to/2R1NAdL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Silver Belles</strong></a>, all the characters are over 40.</p><p>- Sarah described the cover of <a href="https://amzn.to/2R1NXVH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>A Holiday of Love</strong></a> as an example of a certain type of old-school book package. But just last year, <a href="https://amzn.to/2PDdlvX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>A Christmas to Remember</strong></a> with Lisa Kleypas, Lorraine Heath, Megan Frampton, and Vivienne Lorret followed the same exact cover protocol.</p><p>- <a href="https://lithub.com/in-praise-of-the-epistolary-novel/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Epistolary novels</a> are super fun to read (Jen's favorite is <a href="https://amzn.to/2Ensq2T" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Where'd You Go, Bernadette</strong></a>, Sarah is--unsurprisingly--very pro epistolary romance; her favorite is Kleypas's <a href="https://amzn.to/2R8gAAg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Love in the Afternoon</strong></a>), but Jen's pretty interested in how <a href="http://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2018/10/group-reviewdiscussion-thrall.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">they are changing in the age of the internet</a>.</p><p>- All three of <a href="https://amzn.to/2BoUujh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the books</a> in <a href="https://amzn.to/2rEOuOK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Men at Work series</a> by Tiffany Reisz are delightful, but <a href="https://amzn.to/2S1RtfR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Thanksgiving one </a>is an absolute classic.</p><p>- Last year, Jen <a href="http://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2017/11/who-did-it-better-on-thanksgiving.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ranked Thanksgiving romances</a> for The Book Queen.</p><p><strong>- </strong><a href="https://amzn.to/2QT2Vgt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>How the Dukes Stole Christmas</strong></a> is pretty great, and here's where <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1057817226521272320" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen talked about Joanna Shupe's novella</a> on twitter.</p><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/35-holiday-romances-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s the Holiday Season™️, which means it’s time to talk about Holiday romances! Get ready because there are A WHOLE LOT of books in this show. Also, get ready, because next week, on December 26th, instead of releasing our <a href="https://amzn.to/2Lpjs6x" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Dark Needs at Night’s Edge</strong></a> episode, we’re releasing a bonus Ask-us-Anything episode as a special holiday present to you!  </p><p>Our official IAD reread will resume January 2nd, with <a href="https://amzn.to/2Lpjs6x" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Néomi (ghost) &amp; Conrad (vampire)</a> and we have so. many. feelings. SO MANY.</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><p>- In case you're curious, here's where Jen learned to <a href="http://www.capetalk.co.za/articles/243029/mills-and-boon-finds-fresh-talent-in-cape-town" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">properly pronounce Therese Beharrie's name</a>. Therese wrote 2 Christmas books this year: <a href="https://amzn.to/2S3YU62" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>A Wedding One Christmas</strong></a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/2QQFZP1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Her Festive Flirtation</strong></a>, and Jen liked them both.</p><p><em>- </em><a href="https://amzn.to/2UQhWyy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Before Sunrise</em></a> came out in 1995, a sequel <a href="https://amzn.to/2EqYlQ7" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Before Sunset</em></a> in 2004, and a third <a href="https://amzn.to/2ExxNgL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Before Midnight</em></a> in 2013. This <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/culture/richard-brody/before-midnight-after-birth" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">New Yorker review</a> is a perfect example of everything Jen hates when people review anything romantic, so hate-read it if you're in the mood.</p><p>- Jen completely got the name of that chapter book wrong, it's <a href="https://amzn.to/2Elq9oN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>The Best Christmas Pageant Ever</strong></a>.</p><p>- <a href="https://amzn.to/2SNA6zl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Novellas are really common in romance</a>, maybe more than other genres, and Jen anxioulsy awaits the think-piece explaining why.</p><p>- Speaking of novellas: The anthology of Chanukah stories that Sarah mentioned is called <a href="https://twitter.com/mance_whoa/status/1069982284604981248" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Burning Bright</strong></a>; <a href="https://amzn.to/2SPfA14" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Reindeer Games</strong> </a>is an anthology of stories with the snowed-in trope; and in <a href="https://amzn.to/2R1NAdL" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Silver Belles</strong></a>, all the characters are over 40.</p><p>- Sarah described the cover of <a href="https://amzn.to/2R1NXVH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>A Holiday of Love</strong></a> as an example of a certain type of old-school book package. But just last year, <a href="https://amzn.to/2PDdlvX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>A Christmas to Remember</strong></a> with Lisa Kleypas, Lorraine Heath, Megan Frampton, and Vivienne Lorret followed the same exact cover protocol.</p><p>- <a href="https://lithub.com/in-praise-of-the-epistolary-novel/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Epistolary novels</a> are super fun to read (Jen's favorite is <a href="https://amzn.to/2Ensq2T" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Where'd You Go, Bernadette</strong></a>, Sarah is--unsurprisingly--very pro epistolary romance; her favorite is Kleypas's <a href="https://amzn.to/2R8gAAg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Love in the Afternoon</strong></a>), but Jen's pretty interested in how <a href="http://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2018/10/group-reviewdiscussion-thrall.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">they are changing in the age of the internet</a>.</p><p>- All three of <a href="https://amzn.to/2BoUujh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the books</a> in <a href="https://amzn.to/2rEOuOK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Men at Work series</a> by Tiffany Reisz are delightful, but <a href="https://amzn.to/2S1RtfR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Thanksgiving one </a>is an absolute classic.</p><p>- Last year, Jen <a href="http://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2017/11/who-did-it-better-on-thanksgiving.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ranked Thanksgiving romances</a> for The Book Queen.</p><p><strong>- </strong><a href="https://amzn.to/2QT2Vgt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>How the Dukes Stole Christmas</strong></a> is pretty great, and here's where <a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1057817226521272320" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen talked about Joanna Shupe's novella</a> on twitter.</p><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/35-holiday-romances-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/35-holiday-romances-interstitial]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5bfee0cfb8a04587790f952a</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2018 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/f3200805-e923-47d7-bfcb-a286ef363b0a/episode-3-5-final-reva.mp3" length="29054685" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>27:32</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>8</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><itunes:summary>It’s the Holiday Season™️, which means it’s time to talk about Holiday romances! Get ready because there are A WHOLE LOT of books in this show. Also, get ready, because next week, on December 26th, instead of releasing our Dark Needs at Night’s Edge episode, we’re releasing a bonus Ask-us-Anything episode as a special holiday present to you!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-f3200805-e923-47d7-bfcb-a286ef363b0a.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>3: A Great Lay or All the Knowledge in the World: Wicked Deeds on a Winter&apos;s Night</title><itunes:title>A Great Lay or All the Knowledge in the World: Wicked Deeds on a Winter&apos;s Night</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We’re three books into IAD this week, and&nbsp;<em>it is happening</em>! We're joined by the brilliant&nbsp;<a href="https://adrianaherreraromance.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adriana Herrera</a>&nbsp;to talk&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2SiHhz8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Wicked Deeds on a Winter's Night</em></a>, starring Bowen (the werewolf trapped in a tunnel of fire) and Mariketa the Awaited (the witch who is going to run him ragged)!</p><p>Adriana, Jen &amp; Sarah cover everything from Snow White to trauma survivors, jungle warfare to May-December romances, sexism and Cardi B. And we still find time to fangirl over Kresley's heroines.</p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review.</p><p>Our next read (in two weeks) will be&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2QHsgtI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Dark Needs at Night's Edge</em></a>&nbsp;— complete with a broken hero tied to a bed (vampire, obvi) and a haunting heroine who just wants to be seen (literally). This one makes for a LOT of opinions among IAD fans...you won’t want to miss it.</p><p>Get ready for the read along at&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2QHsgtI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dark-needs-at-nights-edge-kresley-cole/1100209168" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/book/dark-needs-at-nights-edge/id381536550?mt=11&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>&nbsp;or&nbsp;<a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781416547075" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>. Also, the Audible versions of IAD are on sale right now -- and WORTH EVERY PENNY!&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2C5Mvcy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Listen on Audio</a>!</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><p>- Our special guest this week is romance author <a href="https://adrianaherreraromance.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adriana Herrera</a>. <a href="https://happyeverafter.usatoday.com/2018/11/20/american-dreamer-cover-reveal-adriana-herrera/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>American Dreamer</strong></a>, her debut novel with Carina Press, comes out in March of 2019.</p><p> -Jen interviewed Adriana about <a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/2018/09/domestic-violence-in-romance/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">domestic violence in romance</a> for the Smart Bitches.</p><p>- Jen and Sarah both loved <a href="https://amzn.to/2Ux3hbz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>The Opposite of You</strong></a>, a food truck romance by Rachel Higginson, and Sil at Book Riot made a <a href="https://bookriot.com/2018/07/13/food-truck-romances/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">list of food truck romances</a>.</p><p>- Kresley's historical trilogy is called <a href="https://amzn.to/2EbB5Fu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>The MacCarrick Brothers</strong></a>, and you can get all 3 bundled together, of course.</p><p> - There's nothing more amazing than warring think-pieces. So here's <a href="https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/03/f--kboy-definition-take-that-haters_n_7471142.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Huffington Post</a> and <a href="https://slate.com/human-interest/2015/08/what-does-fuckboy-mean.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Slate</a>teaching us about fuckboy, and <a href="https://jezebel.com/the-definition-of-fuckboy-is-not-what-bad-trend-pieces-1725157828" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jezebel</a> telling us how they're doing it wrong.</p><p>- The five witches' castes are warrior, healer, enchantress, conjurer, and sorceress. Jen's going to make a Buzzfeed Quiz that tells you which witch strength you'd have. (This is a lie. Jen does not know how to make Buzzfeed quizzes. But it's a good idea, right?)</p><p> -Speaking of vibrators, the best Romancelandia blog is the <a href="https://bawdybookworms.com/shop/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bawdy Bookworms</a>, which features review of both books and sex toys!</p><p>- Here's a <a href="https://youtu.be/Hhk4N9A0oCA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">serious video explainer of the Hero's Journey</a>, and also a slightly more <a href="https://youtu.be/yZxs_jGN7Pg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">silly one</a>.</p><p>- This blog is dedicated to looking at <a href="https://fairytalesandfeminismblog.wordpress.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">feminism and Snow White</a> in American culture.</p><p>- <a href="https://mediaeducationlab.com/news/deconstructing-disney-lesson-plans" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Deconstruct Disney</a> for yourself or for your kids.</p><p>- There's an IAD wiki, and it's pretty useful for when you're listing <a href="http://immortalsafterdarkiad.wikia.com/wiki/Haxa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hekate, Haxa, and can't remember the third one is Hela</a>.</p><p>- As symbols, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_(symbolism)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">apples do a lot of heavy lifting</a>.</p><p>- Mirrors and feminism have a long complicted history. And since we're talking action movies, check out this think piece by Carolyn Petit about <a href="https://feministfrequency.com/2017/02/22/hall-of-mirrors-facing-patriarchy-in-the-media-facing-ourselves/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">feminism, movie criticism, and John Wick's house of mirrors</a>. And then I found this article about <a href="https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/sylvia-plaths-magic-mirror/#!" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sylvia Plath's senior thesis at Smith</a> and it's very far afield from the current topic, but this is a super interesting read.</p><p>- <a href="https://amzn.to/2QGD7Eg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jack Ryan on Amazon</a>.</p><p>- <a href="https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/8489733/cardi-b-teases-gold-look-money-music-video" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">There isn't a video for Cardi B's <em>Money</em> yet</a>, but <a href="https://genius.com/Cardi-b-money-lyrics" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here are the lyrics</a>.</p><p>- How young women have internatlized the <a href="https://tvo.org/article/current-affairs/how-girls-question-feminism-yet-embrace-girl-power" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Girl Power vs. Feminism</a> dichotomy.</p><p> - There's a <a href="http://www.thebuzzonhr.com/2018/03/14/blackblogsmatter-defining-inclusion-equality-and-equity/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">famous image that illustrates the difference between equality and equity</a>. It's most often used in the context of race, but can be used as a way to envision any kind of oppression.</p><p>- <a href="https://jezebel.com/the-romance-novelists-guide-to-hot-consent-1822991922" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Romance has been thinking about consent</a> for a long time. Jen wrote a review of a graphic novel for teenagers called <a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/reviews/guest-review-consent-really-mean-pete-wallis-thalia-wallis/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>What Does Consent Really Mean</strong></a>?</p><p>- Our next <a href="https://amzn.to/2QHsgtI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Dark Needs at Night's Edge</strong></a> is next.</p><h2><strong>Lost Limb Count</strong></h2><p><strong>(Leg - 2, Arm - 1, Eye - 1)</strong></p><p><em>- Lachlain</em> tears off his own leg to reach Emma. He regenerates. (<em>A Hunger Like No Other</em>)</p><p><em>- Sebastian</em> pulverizes most of his right arm during the Hie. He regenerates. (<em>No Rest For the Wicked</em>)</p><p><em>- Bowen</em> loses an eye and most of his forehead during the Hie. Mariketa has cursed him and he can't heal until he returns to her. (<em>Wicked Deeds on a Winter's Night</em>)</p><p><em>- Mariketa's</em> skull is fractured and her leg is torn from her body. She heals herself after Bowen lays on the ground. Ivy grows over her and heals her. (<em>Wicked Deeds on a Winter's Night</em>)</p><h2><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/3-something-we-said-wicked-deeds-on-a-winters-night </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </h2>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We’re three books into IAD this week, and&nbsp;<em>it is happening</em>! We're joined by the brilliant&nbsp;<a href="https://adrianaherreraromance.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adriana Herrera</a>&nbsp;to talk&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2SiHhz8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Wicked Deeds on a Winter's Night</em></a>, starring Bowen (the werewolf trapped in a tunnel of fire) and Mariketa the Awaited (the witch who is going to run him ragged)!</p><p>Adriana, Jen &amp; Sarah cover everything from Snow White to trauma survivors, jungle warfare to May-December romances, sexism and Cardi B. And we still find time to fangirl over Kresley's heroines.</p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review.</p><p>Our next read (in two weeks) will be&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2QHsgtI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Dark Needs at Night's Edge</em></a>&nbsp;— complete with a broken hero tied to a bed (vampire, obvi) and a haunting heroine who just wants to be seen (literally). This one makes for a LOT of opinions among IAD fans...you won’t want to miss it.</p><p>Get ready for the read along at&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2QHsgtI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dark-needs-at-nights-edge-kresley-cole/1100209168" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/book/dark-needs-at-nights-edge/id381536550?mt=11&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a>&nbsp;or&nbsp;<a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781416547075" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>. Also, the Audible versions of IAD are on sale right now -- and WORTH EVERY PENNY!&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2C5Mvcy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Listen on Audio</a>!</p><h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2><p>- Our special guest this week is romance author <a href="https://adrianaherreraromance.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adriana Herrera</a>. <a href="https://happyeverafter.usatoday.com/2018/11/20/american-dreamer-cover-reveal-adriana-herrera/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>American Dreamer</strong></a>, her debut novel with Carina Press, comes out in March of 2019.</p><p> -Jen interviewed Adriana about <a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/2018/09/domestic-violence-in-romance/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">domestic violence in romance</a> for the Smart Bitches.</p><p>- Jen and Sarah both loved <a href="https://amzn.to/2Ux3hbz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>The Opposite of You</strong></a>, a food truck romance by Rachel Higginson, and Sil at Book Riot made a <a href="https://bookriot.com/2018/07/13/food-truck-romances/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">list of food truck romances</a>.</p><p>- Kresley's historical trilogy is called <a href="https://amzn.to/2EbB5Fu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>The MacCarrick Brothers</strong></a>, and you can get all 3 bundled together, of course.</p><p> - There's nothing more amazing than warring think-pieces. So here's <a href="https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/03/f--kboy-definition-take-that-haters_n_7471142.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Huffington Post</a> and <a href="https://slate.com/human-interest/2015/08/what-does-fuckboy-mean.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Slate</a>teaching us about fuckboy, and <a href="https://jezebel.com/the-definition-of-fuckboy-is-not-what-bad-trend-pieces-1725157828" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jezebel</a> telling us how they're doing it wrong.</p><p>- The five witches' castes are warrior, healer, enchantress, conjurer, and sorceress. Jen's going to make a Buzzfeed Quiz that tells you which witch strength you'd have. (This is a lie. Jen does not know how to make Buzzfeed quizzes. But it's a good idea, right?)</p><p> -Speaking of vibrators, the best Romancelandia blog is the <a href="https://bawdybookworms.com/shop/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bawdy Bookworms</a>, which features review of both books and sex toys!</p><p>- Here's a <a href="https://youtu.be/Hhk4N9A0oCA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">serious video explainer of the Hero's Journey</a>, and also a slightly more <a href="https://youtu.be/yZxs_jGN7Pg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">silly one</a>.</p><p>- This blog is dedicated to looking at <a href="https://fairytalesandfeminismblog.wordpress.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">feminism and Snow White</a> in American culture.</p><p>- <a href="https://mediaeducationlab.com/news/deconstructing-disney-lesson-plans" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Deconstruct Disney</a> for yourself or for your kids.</p><p>- There's an IAD wiki, and it's pretty useful for when you're listing <a href="http://immortalsafterdarkiad.wikia.com/wiki/Haxa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hekate, Haxa, and can't remember the third one is Hela</a>.</p><p>- As symbols, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_(symbolism)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">apples do a lot of heavy lifting</a>.</p><p>- Mirrors and feminism have a long complicted history. And since we're talking action movies, check out this think piece by Carolyn Petit about <a href="https://feministfrequency.com/2017/02/22/hall-of-mirrors-facing-patriarchy-in-the-media-facing-ourselves/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">feminism, movie criticism, and John Wick's house of mirrors</a>. And then I found this article about <a href="https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/sylvia-plaths-magic-mirror/#!" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sylvia Plath's senior thesis at Smith</a> and it's very far afield from the current topic, but this is a super interesting read.</p><p>- <a href="https://amzn.to/2QGD7Eg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jack Ryan on Amazon</a>.</p><p>- <a href="https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/8489733/cardi-b-teases-gold-look-money-music-video" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">There isn't a video for Cardi B's <em>Money</em> yet</a>, but <a href="https://genius.com/Cardi-b-money-lyrics" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here are the lyrics</a>.</p><p>- How young women have internatlized the <a href="https://tvo.org/article/current-affairs/how-girls-question-feminism-yet-embrace-girl-power" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Girl Power vs. Feminism</a> dichotomy.</p><p> - There's a <a href="http://www.thebuzzonhr.com/2018/03/14/blackblogsmatter-defining-inclusion-equality-and-equity/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">famous image that illustrates the difference between equality and equity</a>. It's most often used in the context of race, but can be used as a way to envision any kind of oppression.</p><p>- <a href="https://jezebel.com/the-romance-novelists-guide-to-hot-consent-1822991922" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Romance has been thinking about consent</a> for a long time. Jen wrote a review of a graphic novel for teenagers called <a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/reviews/guest-review-consent-really-mean-pete-wallis-thalia-wallis/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>What Does Consent Really Mean</strong></a>?</p><p>- Our next <a href="https://amzn.to/2QHsgtI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Dark Needs at Night's Edge</strong></a> is next.</p><h2><strong>Lost Limb Count</strong></h2><p><strong>(Leg - 2, Arm - 1, Eye - 1)</strong></p><p><em>- Lachlain</em> tears off his own leg to reach Emma. He regenerates. (<em>A Hunger Like No Other</em>)</p><p><em>- Sebastian</em> pulverizes most of his right arm during the Hie. He regenerates. (<em>No Rest For the Wicked</em>)</p><p><em>- Bowen</em> loses an eye and most of his forehead during the Hie. Mariketa has cursed him and he can't heal until he returns to her. (<em>Wicked Deeds on a Winter's Night</em>)</p><p><em>- Mariketa's</em> skull is fractured and her leg is torn from her body. She heals herself after Bowen lays on the ground. Ivy grows over her and heals her. (<em>Wicked Deeds on a Winter's Night</em>)</p><h2><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/3-something-we-said-wicked-deeds-on-a-winters-night </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </h2>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/3-something-we-said-wicked-deeds-on-a-winters-night]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bc7409ec46f6d369ce5f644:5bcf6773419202388fdccb10:5bfee03a03ce6472e5c49af8</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2018 05:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/f927f680-ff4a-45d3-8988-68bba3779373/episode3-revk.mp3" length="71338559" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:09:52</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>7</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><itunes:summary>We’re three books into IAD this week, and it is happening! We&apos;re joined by the brilliant Adriana Herrera to talk Wicked Deeds on a Winter&apos;s Night, starring Bowen (the werewolf trapped in a tunnel of fire) and Mariketa the Awaited (the witch who is going to run him ragged)!

Adriana, Jen &amp; Sarah cover everything from Snow White to trauma survivors, jungle warfare to May-December romances, sexism and Cardi B. And we still find time to fangirl over Kresley&apos;s heroines.

Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review.

Our next read (in two weeks) will be Dark Needs at Night&apos;s Edge — complete with a broken hero tied to a bed (vampire, obvi) and a haunting heroine who just wants to be seen (literally). This one makes for a LOT of opinions among IAD fans...you won’t want to miss it.

Get ready for the read along at Amazon, Barnes &amp; Noble, Apple Books or your local indie. Also, the Audible versions of IAD are on sale right now -- and WORTH EVERY PENNY! Listen on Audio!</itunes:summary><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-f927f680-ff4a-45d3-8988-68bba3779373.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>2.5: Brother&apos;s Best Friend Romances</title><itunes:title>Brother&apos;s Best Friend Romances</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Next week we’re going to get into Werewolves and Witches with <a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000UZQJ2I/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;linkCode=sl1&amp;tag=fatedmates-20&amp;linkId=11c9d7c87844a547af7d06bd80682aa6&amp;language=en_US" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wicked Deeds on a Winter’s Night</a>, but this week, we’re so excited to talk best friend’s sibling/sibling’s best friend romances with one of our favorite people: <a href="https://www.kateclayborn.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kate Clayborn</a>!</p><p>Show Notes</p><ul><li><a href="https://twitter.com/kateclayborn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kate Clayborn</a>&nbsp;writes awesome books, but her romance&nbsp;<a href="https://frolic.media/why-ive-stopped-falling-for-clumsy-heroines/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">think</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://frolic.media/grunt-work-when-your-romance-herp-can-barely-make-a-sound/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">pieces</a>&nbsp;at&nbsp;<a href="https://frolic.media/category/books/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Frolic</a>&nbsp;aren't too be missed.</li><li>There's nothing more hilarious than reviving old twitter threads, and in this one&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/kateclayborn/status/1052695360299311105" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kate and Talia Hibbert talk IAD</a>.</li><li><a href="http://kresleycole.com/bookshelf/the-game-maker-series/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>The Game Maker series</strong></a>&nbsp;will get its own episodes, don't worry. Jen was thinking about saving this&nbsp;<a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/medieval-chastity-belts-are-myth-180956341/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">chastity belt</a>&nbsp;article for then, but really, why wait?</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2U6s3iD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Best of Luck</strong></a>&nbsp;was just named one of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/b/ref=s9_acss_bw_cg_KCeditor_3c1_w?node=17276800011&amp;pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&amp;pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-3&amp;pf_rd_r=KXJ1XVBHC623CNMKZZ8J&amp;pf_rd_t=101&amp;pf_rd_p=57702035-06d4-49e1-9621-d3f202cd09ab&amp;pf_rd_i=17276800011" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon's Best Romance of December</a>, which is as it should be. The second book in the series,&nbsp;<strong>Luck of the Draw</strong>, was on&nbsp;<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/books/the-5-best-romance-novels-of-2018/2018/11/13/3bc605e2-e1ef-11e8-b759-3d88a5ce9e19_story.html?utm_term=.1666d0427033" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah's Best of 2018 list for the Washington Post.</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1053793426871934976" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah's twitter thread</a>&nbsp;where people described what they'd do if they won a billion dollars is pretty fun to read. But really, there's a reason we all&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/7bdkjy/addicted-to-the-lottery-why-people-buy-false-hope-and-lottery-tickets-511" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">love that daydream</a>.</li><li>This month, the Ripped Bodice is spearheading&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thegreatbigromanceread.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Great Big Romance Read</a>&nbsp;and maybe you can find a bookstore, library, or blog where you can talk about&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2zxgYhV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Pride</strong>&nbsp;by Ibi Zoboi</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.pbs.org/wnet/chasing-the-dream/your-american-dream-score/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The American Dream is complicated</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2018/09/why-is-college-so-expensive-in-america/569884/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">college is expensive</a>, and all of it freaks Jen out if she thinks about it too much.</li><li>Sarah wrote a YA historical! It's called&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2Q82cIS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>The Season</strong></a>.</li><li>This is a good take on why the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.writerspace.com/whats-up-with-that-best-friends-brother/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">best friend's sibling trope is so powerful</a>.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2PgWgYC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Sinner</strong>&nbsp;by Sierra Simone</a>. She&nbsp;<a href="https://frolic.media/authors-kennedy-ryan-sierra-simone-talk-taboos-poc-and-the-pope/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">talks about her writing here</a>. Jen doesn't really think it counts as&nbsp;<a href="http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02595a.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">blasphemy</a>, but she looked it up just to be sure.</li><li>Some more about&nbsp;<a href="https://bookriot.com/2016/06/16/the-holy-books-an-experiment-in-reading-inspirational-romance/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">insprirational romance</a>, and although we didn't mention her name on the podcast, Jen thinks&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/piperhuguley" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Piper Huguley</a>&nbsp;writes&nbsp;<a href="https://www.spelman.edu/about-us/news-and-events/our-stories/stories/2016/03/08/five-questions-with-author-piper-huguley-riggins" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the best inspirational romance</a>&nbsp;out there. She wrote about Piper's book&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2SriZ63" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>The Mayor's Mission</strong></a>&nbsp;and Sarah's book&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2Q7vEP2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Day of the Duchess</strong></a>&nbsp;in this piece on&nbsp;<a href="http://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2018/02/lets-talk-miscarriages-in-romance.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">miscarriage in romance</a>.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2Q5sKdH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Goddess of the Hunt</strong></a>&nbsp;by&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/TessaDare" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tessa Dare</a>.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2rfrUMx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Clean Breaks</strong></a>&nbsp;by&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/RubeLang" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ruby Lang</a>. But when this podcast went live, it was an even better deal to&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2rpD8ON" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">buy all three books in the Practice Perfect</a>&nbsp;series bundled together.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/25-best-friends-sibling-romances-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Next week we’re going to get into Werewolves and Witches with <a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000UZQJ2I/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;linkCode=sl1&amp;tag=fatedmates-20&amp;linkId=11c9d7c87844a547af7d06bd80682aa6&amp;language=en_US" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wicked Deeds on a Winter’s Night</a>, but this week, we’re so excited to talk best friend’s sibling/sibling’s best friend romances with one of our favorite people: <a href="https://www.kateclayborn.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kate Clayborn</a>!</p><p>Show Notes</p><ul><li><a href="https://twitter.com/kateclayborn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kate Clayborn</a>&nbsp;writes awesome books, but her romance&nbsp;<a href="https://frolic.media/why-ive-stopped-falling-for-clumsy-heroines/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">think</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://frolic.media/grunt-work-when-your-romance-herp-can-barely-make-a-sound/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">pieces</a>&nbsp;at&nbsp;<a href="https://frolic.media/category/books/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Frolic</a>&nbsp;aren't too be missed.</li><li>There's nothing more hilarious than reviving old twitter threads, and in this one&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/kateclayborn/status/1052695360299311105" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kate and Talia Hibbert talk IAD</a>.</li><li><a href="http://kresleycole.com/bookshelf/the-game-maker-series/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>The Game Maker series</strong></a>&nbsp;will get its own episodes, don't worry. Jen was thinking about saving this&nbsp;<a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/medieval-chastity-belts-are-myth-180956341/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">chastity belt</a>&nbsp;article for then, but really, why wait?</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2U6s3iD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Best of Luck</strong></a>&nbsp;was just named one of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/b/ref=s9_acss_bw_cg_KCeditor_3c1_w?node=17276800011&amp;pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&amp;pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-3&amp;pf_rd_r=KXJ1XVBHC623CNMKZZ8J&amp;pf_rd_t=101&amp;pf_rd_p=57702035-06d4-49e1-9621-d3f202cd09ab&amp;pf_rd_i=17276800011" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon's Best Romance of December</a>, which is as it should be. The second book in the series,&nbsp;<strong>Luck of the Draw</strong>, was on&nbsp;<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/books/the-5-best-romance-novels-of-2018/2018/11/13/3bc605e2-e1ef-11e8-b759-3d88a5ce9e19_story.html?utm_term=.1666d0427033" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah's Best of 2018 list for the Washington Post.</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1053793426871934976" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah's twitter thread</a>&nbsp;where people described what they'd do if they won a billion dollars is pretty fun to read. But really, there's a reason we all&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/7bdkjy/addicted-to-the-lottery-why-people-buy-false-hope-and-lottery-tickets-511" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">love that daydream</a>.</li><li>This month, the Ripped Bodice is spearheading&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thegreatbigromanceread.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Great Big Romance Read</a>&nbsp;and maybe you can find a bookstore, library, or blog where you can talk about&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2zxgYhV" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Pride</strong>&nbsp;by Ibi Zoboi</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.pbs.org/wnet/chasing-the-dream/your-american-dream-score/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The American Dream is complicated</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2018/09/why-is-college-so-expensive-in-america/569884/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">college is expensive</a>, and all of it freaks Jen out if she thinks about it too much.</li><li>Sarah wrote a YA historical! It's called&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2Q82cIS" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>The Season</strong></a>.</li><li>This is a good take on why the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.writerspace.com/whats-up-with-that-best-friends-brother/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">best friend's sibling trope is so powerful</a>.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2PgWgYC" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Sinner</strong>&nbsp;by Sierra Simone</a>. She&nbsp;<a href="https://frolic.media/authors-kennedy-ryan-sierra-simone-talk-taboos-poc-and-the-pope/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">talks about her writing here</a>. Jen doesn't really think it counts as&nbsp;<a href="http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02595a.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">blasphemy</a>, but she looked it up just to be sure.</li><li>Some more about&nbsp;<a href="https://bookriot.com/2016/06/16/the-holy-books-an-experiment-in-reading-inspirational-romance/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">insprirational romance</a>, and although we didn't mention her name on the podcast, Jen thinks&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/piperhuguley" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Piper Huguley</a>&nbsp;writes&nbsp;<a href="https://www.spelman.edu/about-us/news-and-events/our-stories/stories/2016/03/08/five-questions-with-author-piper-huguley-riggins" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the best inspirational romance</a>&nbsp;out there. She wrote about Piper's book&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2SriZ63" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>The Mayor's Mission</strong></a>&nbsp;and Sarah's book&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2Q7vEP2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Day of the Duchess</strong></a>&nbsp;in this piece on&nbsp;<a href="http://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2018/02/lets-talk-miscarriages-in-romance.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">miscarriage in romance</a>.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2Q5sKdH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Goddess of the Hunt</strong></a>&nbsp;by&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/TessaDare" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tessa Dare</a>.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2rfrUMx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Clean Breaks</strong></a>&nbsp;by&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/RubeLang" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ruby Lang</a>. But when this podcast went live, it was an even better deal to&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2rpD8ON" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">buy all three books in the Practice Perfect</a>&nbsp;series bundled together.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/25-best-friends-sibling-romances-interstitial </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/28/25-best-friends-sibling-romances-interstitial]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">59b9bd26-df56-41d2-adc6-85c7b2ec99af</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2018 08:41:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/8d7ca21f-a865-4186-a777-0ccbc9d6567c/Interstitial-2-5-Best-Friends-Sibling.mp3" length="42364108" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>41:37</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>6</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-8d7ca21f-a865-4186-a777-0ccbc9d6567c.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>2: The Best Led Zeppelin Song is by Pink Floyd: No Rest for the Wicked</title><itunes:title>The Best Led Zeppelin Song is by Pink Floyd: No Rest for the Wicked</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We’re two books in this week, reading <a href="https://amzn.to/2RNICh9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>No Rest for the Wicked</em></a>, starring Kaderin the Cold-hearted and Sebastian Wroth, participating in the Talisman Hie…Kresley’s version of The Amazing Race.</p><p>Sarah &amp; Jen cover<em> </em>everything from pop-culture in romance novels to the lengths we’ll go for the people we love, and the immense trust required when we fall in love…all while marveling at the way Kresley sets the stage for a series that will subvert tropes and genres again and again.</p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review. </p><p>Our next read (in two weeks) will be <a href="https://amzn.to/2FKzGZ1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Wicked Deeds on a Winter’s Night</strong></a> <em>— </em>and the witches are coming! WDOAWN is the story of Bowen MacRieve (werewolf) and Mariketa the Awaited (witch)…and the book that really breaks open the wide world of IAD. We’ll be joined by the brilliant <a href="https://adrianaherreraromance.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adriana Herrera</a>, and you won’t want to miss it. Get ready for the read along at <a href="https://amzn.to/2FKzGZ1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/wicked-deeds-on-a-winters-night-kresley-cole/1100623132" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/book/wicked-deeds-on-a-winters-night/id381503024?mt=11&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781849834148" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>. </p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Some fun facts about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thisisinsider.com/surprising-amazing-race-fun-facts-2018-7#the-teams-have-to-buy-plane-tickets-for-their-crew-members-3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Amazing Race</a>.</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://norse-mythology.org/gods-and-creatures/valkyries/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Valkyeries in mythology</a>, and maybe you didn't notice that "Val Hall" is a play on&nbsp;<a href="https://norse-mythology.org/cosmology/valhalla/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Valhalla</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.wired.com/2014/10/vampire-evolution/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vampires</a>&nbsp;in pop culture &amp; literature.</li><li>Remember your high school English teacher talking about characters who are&nbsp;<a href="https://literarydevices.net/foil/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">foils</a>&nbsp;of each other? This is not to be confused with your algebra teacher talking about how to&nbsp;<a href="https://i.ytimg.com/vi/2JYgvG4cquQ/maxresdefault.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">solve quadratic equations</a>.</li><li>On&nbsp;<a href="https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Frigid" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Urban Dictionary, I want to kiss the person who defined Frigid</a>&nbsp;it as "An outdated, Victorian term used to describe women who aren't interested in sex. Only used today by drunk men in bars to explain why the woman they attempted to pick up wasn't interested."</li><li>A wacky look at some potential&nbsp;<a href="https://www.wired.com/2010/11/time-travel/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">real life examples of time travel</a>.</li><li>Just out of curiosity, this is what you'll find if you google "<a href="http://badassoftheweek.com/index.cgi?id=39684745806" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bad Ass Estonian General</a>." IMPRESSIVE.</li><li>Sarah's wet noodle joke is part of a long literary tradition where&nbsp;<a href="http://strangehorizons.com/non-fiction/articles/lust-love-and-the-literary-vampire/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">vampires just need a good dose of viagra</a>.</li><li>All about&nbsp;<a href="https://bookriot.com/2014/10/15/romance-101-beta-heroes/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">beta heros</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/beautiful-cinnamon-roll-too-good-for-this-world-too-pure" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">cinnamon roll</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://oliviadade.com/2017/12/11/warning-extra-gooey-cinnamon-roll-heroes-ahead/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">heroes</a>, and a link to a lot of talk about the latter from&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/anacoqui" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ana Coqui</a>'s&nbsp;<a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1L8p7FjxZL_n94LNMsrj2UE3syXa_1z7esbdOIFqqPnU/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">November 2018's #RomBkLove</a>.</li><li>Sarah mentions "the vampire chained to a bed" and she's talking about Conrad Wroth, the hero of&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2BApzla" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Dark Needs at Night's Edge</strong></a>&nbsp;(book 4).</li><li>Just a&nbsp;<a href="https://www.guttmacher.org/fact-sheet/contraceptive-use-united-states" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">brief review of birth control</a>, how we use it, and why it is so important to women's rights.</li><li>In case you were wondering why Jen talked about "no one ever has to go to the bathroom."&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/974342217644040194" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">It's a thing.</a>&nbsp;Sarah accused Jen of RUINING ROMANCE, but clearly that's not the case because here we are.</li><li>More about&nbsp;<a href="http://time.com/4910412/plane-struck-lightning-safety/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lightning and planes</a>.</li><li>Chicago's&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bubbly_Creek" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bubbly Creek</a>. That's real. If you ever want to nerd out on this history, Jen recommends a book called&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2E12kTZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Nature's Metropolis</strong></a>. Honestly, you really have no idea how fascinating grain elevators are.</li><li>The short and incomplete list of magical items introduced in this book: Kaderin gives the Furies armor that can't be pierced and a battle axe that can kill Lore beings without having to behead them. The New Zealand coven of Valkyeries has a choker that allows the person wearing it to sing a siren's song. No one knows what happend to the armband that makes the wearer feel overwhelming sexual desire. Amphitrite's tear is a bead that will heal any wound. The Blade of Honorius never misses its target. Thrane's Key was the time-traveling prize in this Hie, and at the end of the book, Riora gives Sebastian one to use at his discretion.</li><li><a href="http://www.literarydevices.com/deus-ex-machina/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Deus Ex Machina</a>&nbsp;is fun to say, but kind of a bummer when that's how an author gets her characters out of a jam.</li><li>All the cool vampires from the mid-2000s carry&nbsp;<a href="https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/ghosts-of-christmas-past-the-original-motorola-razr/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">RAZR phones</a>.</li><li><a href="https://blog.hubspot.com/marketing/diamond-de-beers-marketing-campaign" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Diamonds are a construct</a>, just like virginity.</li><li>Sarah is&nbsp;<a href="https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/romance-novelist-sarah-maclean-explains-170914859.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">pro-Kardashian</a>.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2BBwTwX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bowen &amp; Mariketa</a>&nbsp;are coming up next, but the thing she was excited about at the end of that book actually happened at the end of&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2BBwDht" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Dark Needs at Night's Edge</strong></a>.</li><li>Swineherds vs. shepherds, and the only time&nbsp;<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/Showerthoughts/comments/359quu/given_swineherd_and_cowherd_shepherd_should_be/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen ever felt truly understood on Reddit</a>.</li><li><a href="https://genius.com/Led-zeppelin-the-battle-of-evermore-lyrics" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Battle of Evermore</em></a>&nbsp;by Led Zeppelin, and if you think Jen wasn't dying to update Genius with this Kresley Cole reference, you don't know her at all. But maybe the&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/88b0OYxdtyM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">video</a>&nbsp;is more your speed.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/27/2-the-best-led-zeppelin-song-is-by-pink-floyd-no-rest-for-the-wicked </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We’re two books in this week, reading <a href="https://amzn.to/2RNICh9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>No Rest for the Wicked</em></a>, starring Kaderin the Cold-hearted and Sebastian Wroth, participating in the Talisman Hie…Kresley’s version of The Amazing Race.</p><p>Sarah &amp; Jen cover<em> </em>everything from pop-culture in romance novels to the lengths we’ll go for the people we love, and the immense trust required when we fall in love…all while marveling at the way Kresley sets the stage for a series that will subvert tropes and genres again and again.</p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review. </p><p>Our next read (in two weeks) will be <a href="https://amzn.to/2FKzGZ1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Wicked Deeds on a Winter’s Night</strong></a> <em>— </em>and the witches are coming! WDOAWN is the story of Bowen MacRieve (werewolf) and Mariketa the Awaited (witch)…and the book that really breaks open the wide world of IAD. We’ll be joined by the brilliant <a href="https://adrianaherreraromance.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adriana Herrera</a>, and you won’t want to miss it. Get ready for the read along at <a href="https://amzn.to/2FKzGZ1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/wicked-deeds-on-a-winters-night-kresley-cole/1100623132" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes &amp; Noble</a>, <a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/book/wicked-deeds-on-a-winters-night/id381503024?mt=11&amp;at=1l3vpAR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Books</a> or <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781849834148" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>. </p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Some fun facts about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thisisinsider.com/surprising-amazing-race-fun-facts-2018-7#the-teams-have-to-buy-plane-tickets-for-their-crew-members-3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Amazing Race</a>.</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://norse-mythology.org/gods-and-creatures/valkyries/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Valkyeries in mythology</a>, and maybe you didn't notice that "Val Hall" is a play on&nbsp;<a href="https://norse-mythology.org/cosmology/valhalla/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Valhalla</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.wired.com/2014/10/vampire-evolution/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vampires</a>&nbsp;in pop culture &amp; literature.</li><li>Remember your high school English teacher talking about characters who are&nbsp;<a href="https://literarydevices.net/foil/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">foils</a>&nbsp;of each other? This is not to be confused with your algebra teacher talking about how to&nbsp;<a href="https://i.ytimg.com/vi/2JYgvG4cquQ/maxresdefault.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">solve quadratic equations</a>.</li><li>On&nbsp;<a href="https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Frigid" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Urban Dictionary, I want to kiss the person who defined Frigid</a>&nbsp;it as "An outdated, Victorian term used to describe women who aren't interested in sex. Only used today by drunk men in bars to explain why the woman they attempted to pick up wasn't interested."</li><li>A wacky look at some potential&nbsp;<a href="https://www.wired.com/2010/11/time-travel/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">real life examples of time travel</a>.</li><li>Just out of curiosity, this is what you'll find if you google "<a href="http://badassoftheweek.com/index.cgi?id=39684745806" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bad Ass Estonian General</a>." IMPRESSIVE.</li><li>Sarah's wet noodle joke is part of a long literary tradition where&nbsp;<a href="http://strangehorizons.com/non-fiction/articles/lust-love-and-the-literary-vampire/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">vampires just need a good dose of viagra</a>.</li><li>All about&nbsp;<a href="https://bookriot.com/2014/10/15/romance-101-beta-heroes/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">beta heros</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/beautiful-cinnamon-roll-too-good-for-this-world-too-pure" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">cinnamon roll</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://oliviadade.com/2017/12/11/warning-extra-gooey-cinnamon-roll-heroes-ahead/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">heroes</a>, and a link to a lot of talk about the latter from&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/anacoqui" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ana Coqui</a>'s&nbsp;<a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1L8p7FjxZL_n94LNMsrj2UE3syXa_1z7esbdOIFqqPnU/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">November 2018's #RomBkLove</a>.</li><li>Sarah mentions "the vampire chained to a bed" and she's talking about Conrad Wroth, the hero of&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2BApzla" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Dark Needs at Night's Edge</strong></a>&nbsp;(book 4).</li><li>Just a&nbsp;<a href="https://www.guttmacher.org/fact-sheet/contraceptive-use-united-states" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">brief review of birth control</a>, how we use it, and why it is so important to women's rights.</li><li>In case you were wondering why Jen talked about "no one ever has to go to the bathroom."&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/974342217644040194" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">It's a thing.</a>&nbsp;Sarah accused Jen of RUINING ROMANCE, but clearly that's not the case because here we are.</li><li>More about&nbsp;<a href="http://time.com/4910412/plane-struck-lightning-safety/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lightning and planes</a>.</li><li>Chicago's&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bubbly_Creek" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bubbly Creek</a>. That's real. If you ever want to nerd out on this history, Jen recommends a book called&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2E12kTZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Nature's Metropolis</strong></a>. Honestly, you really have no idea how fascinating grain elevators are.</li><li>The short and incomplete list of magical items introduced in this book: Kaderin gives the Furies armor that can't be pierced and a battle axe that can kill Lore beings without having to behead them. The New Zealand coven of Valkyeries has a choker that allows the person wearing it to sing a siren's song. No one knows what happend to the armband that makes the wearer feel overwhelming sexual desire. Amphitrite's tear is a bead that will heal any wound. The Blade of Honorius never misses its target. Thrane's Key was the time-traveling prize in this Hie, and at the end of the book, Riora gives Sebastian one to use at his discretion.</li><li><a href="http://www.literarydevices.com/deus-ex-machina/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Deus Ex Machina</a>&nbsp;is fun to say, but kind of a bummer when that's how an author gets her characters out of a jam.</li><li>All the cool vampires from the mid-2000s carry&nbsp;<a href="https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/ghosts-of-christmas-past-the-original-motorola-razr/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">RAZR phones</a>.</li><li><a href="https://blog.hubspot.com/marketing/diamond-de-beers-marketing-campaign" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Diamonds are a construct</a>, just like virginity.</li><li>Sarah is&nbsp;<a href="https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/romance-novelist-sarah-maclean-explains-170914859.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">pro-Kardashian</a>.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2BBwTwX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bowen &amp; Mariketa</a>&nbsp;are coming up next, but the thing she was excited about at the end of that book actually happened at the end of&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2BBwDht" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Dark Needs at Night's Edge</strong></a>.</li><li>Swineherds vs. shepherds, and the only time&nbsp;<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/Showerthoughts/comments/359quu/given_swineherd_and_cowherd_shepherd_should_be/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jen ever felt truly understood on Reddit</a>.</li><li><a href="https://genius.com/Led-zeppelin-the-battle-of-evermore-lyrics" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Battle of Evermore</em></a>&nbsp;by Led Zeppelin, and if you think Jen wasn't dying to update Genius with this Kresley Cole reference, you don't know her at all. But maybe the&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/88b0OYxdtyM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">video</a>&nbsp;is more your speed.</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/27/2-the-best-led-zeppelin-song-is-by-pink-floyd-no-rest-for-the-wicked </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/27/2-the-best-led-zeppelin-song-is-by-pink-floyd-no-rest-for-the-wicked]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">bbbe7fe1-eba2-4156-a82c-e8fa96bf326e</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2018 08:46:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/a015c377-513a-4cb8-bb2b-02ca149bf37b/Fated-Mates-Episode-2-The-Battle-Of-Evermore.mp3" length="76576493" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:15:44</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>5</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-a015c377-513a-4cb8-bb2b-02ca149bf37b.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>1.5: Escort Romances</title><itunes:title>Escort Romances</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We know you’re getting excited for <a href="https://amzn.to/2RNICh9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>No Rest for the Wicked</strong></a>, but before we talk about vampires and Valkyries, let’s talk about escort romances!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Sarah and Jen have both loved&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2RZbxza" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>The Kiss Quotient</strong></a>. Sarah reviewed at for&nbsp;<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/sarah-maclean-picks-the-best-romance-novels-to-read-this-month/2018/07/12/6152ca58-8483-11e8-8553-a3ce89036c78_story.html?utm_term=.185d882254d3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Washington Post</a>. Jen's been turning her friend Ernie into an occasional romance reader, and&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1039160673459208192" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">live-tweeted his read of TQK</a>.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2RZxWvZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Escorted</strong></a>&nbsp;by Claire Kent, which is a pen name of&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/NoelleAdams3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Noelle Adams</a></li><li><a href="https://everydayfeminism.com/2013/08/losing-virginity-for-good/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Virginity is a construct</a></li><li>Romancing the Stone is an&nbsp;<a href="https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/romancing-the-stone-1984" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">80s movie classic</a>. Kathleen Turner plays a romance writer on an adventure to retreive a missing emerald.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2Dy6j9g" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Curio and the Curio Vignettes</strong></a>&nbsp;by&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/caramckenna" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cara McKenna</a></li><li>The Smart Bitches made a list of&nbsp;<a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/2017/09/rec-league-competence-pr0n/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">competence porn romances</a>, where all the characters are just really good at their jobs.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2FDBy5Q" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Suddenly You</strong></a>&nbsp;by&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/LisaKleypas" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lisa Kleypas</a>. Here's the&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/WckdWallflowers/status/1014541403425202176" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter thread</a>&nbsp;where Jenny Nordbak alerts everyone to the sexiness factor.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2OQxezs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>The Companion Contract</strong></a>&nbsp;by&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/solacewrites" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Solace Ames</a></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2KboxyI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Burn Down the Night</strong></a>&nbsp;by Molly O'Keefe</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2KdFcSz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>The Duke</strong></a>&nbsp;by Gaelen Foley</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2FGoiNR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Claiming the Courtesan</strong></a>&nbsp;by Anna Campbell</li><li>Journalist&nbsp;<a href="http://melissagiragrant.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Melissa Gira Grant</a>&nbsp;writes about&nbsp;<a href="https://psmag.com/news/recognizing-work" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sex workers</a>&nbsp;and the&nbsp;<a href="http://reason.com/archives/2013/01/21/the-war-on-sex-workers" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">politics of sex work</a>. You should follow her on Twitter.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2Kkne0B" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>The Master</strong></a>&nbsp;by Kresley Cole</li><li>Get ready for&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2ORMhJ1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>No Rest for the Wicked</strong></a></li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/20/escort-romances-interstitial-2 </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We know you’re getting excited for <a href="https://amzn.to/2RNICh9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>No Rest for the Wicked</strong></a>, but before we talk about vampires and Valkyries, let’s talk about escort romances!</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Sarah and Jen have both loved&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2RZbxza" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>The Kiss Quotient</strong></a>. Sarah reviewed at for&nbsp;<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/sarah-maclean-picks-the-best-romance-novels-to-read-this-month/2018/07/12/6152ca58-8483-11e8-8553-a3ce89036c78_story.html?utm_term=.185d882254d3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Washington Post</a>. Jen's been turning her friend Ernie into an occasional romance reader, and&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1039160673459208192" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">live-tweeted his read of TQK</a>.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2RZxWvZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Escorted</strong></a>&nbsp;by Claire Kent, which is a pen name of&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/NoelleAdams3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Noelle Adams</a></li><li><a href="https://everydayfeminism.com/2013/08/losing-virginity-for-good/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Virginity is a construct</a></li><li>Romancing the Stone is an&nbsp;<a href="https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/romancing-the-stone-1984" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">80s movie classic</a>. Kathleen Turner plays a romance writer on an adventure to retreive a missing emerald.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2Dy6j9g" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Curio and the Curio Vignettes</strong></a>&nbsp;by&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/caramckenna" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cara McKenna</a></li><li>The Smart Bitches made a list of&nbsp;<a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/2017/09/rec-league-competence-pr0n/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">competence porn romances</a>, where all the characters are just really good at their jobs.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2FDBy5Q" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Suddenly You</strong></a>&nbsp;by&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/LisaKleypas" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lisa Kleypas</a>. Here's the&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/WckdWallflowers/status/1014541403425202176" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter thread</a>&nbsp;where Jenny Nordbak alerts everyone to the sexiness factor.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2OQxezs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>The Companion Contract</strong></a>&nbsp;by&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/solacewrites" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Solace Ames</a></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2KboxyI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Burn Down the Night</strong></a>&nbsp;by Molly O'Keefe</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2KdFcSz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>The Duke</strong></a>&nbsp;by Gaelen Foley</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2FGoiNR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Claiming the Courtesan</strong></a>&nbsp;by Anna Campbell</li><li>Journalist&nbsp;<a href="http://melissagiragrant.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Melissa Gira Grant</a>&nbsp;writes about&nbsp;<a href="https://psmag.com/news/recognizing-work" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sex workers</a>&nbsp;and the&nbsp;<a href="http://reason.com/archives/2013/01/21/the-war-on-sex-workers" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">politics of sex work</a>. You should follow her on Twitter.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2Kkne0B" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>The Master</strong></a>&nbsp;by Kresley Cole</li><li>Get ready for&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2ORMhJ1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>No Rest for the Wicked</strong></a></li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/20/escort-romances-interstitial-2 </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/20/escort-romances-interstitial-2]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">f8e84fb8-4206-4522-95fc-e8630249efc2</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2018 08:49:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/c80cbaea-2b9f-43b1-b35d-9ddd97de0455/Intersitial2-FatedMates-Final-RevA.mp3" length="25931343" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>22:31</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>4</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-c80cbaea-2b9f-43b1-b35d-9ddd97de0455.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>1: We&apos;re Gonna Come Back to Biting - A Hunger Like No Other</title><itunes:title>We&apos;re Gonna Come Back to Biting - A Hunger Like No Other</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Sarah &amp; Jen talk<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Hunger-Like-Other-Immortals-After-ebook/dp/B000GCFCXW/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1540948697&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=a+hunger+like+no+other&amp;dpID=51dONDcQ6uL&amp;preST=_SY445_QL70_&amp;dpSrc=srch&amp;linkCode=sl1&amp;tag=fatedmates-20&amp;linkId=d2952b38e6877e32ac3502b33178a789&amp;language=en_US" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> <em>A Hunger Like No Other</em></a><em>,</em> why reading Alphas in 2018 is a tricky situation, how Kresley instantly changed the game with Lachlain MacRieve, and why Emma's bite sets the standard for the whole series.</p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, a like would be awesome! </p><p>Our next read (in two weeks) will be <a href="https://amzn.to/2RNICh9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>No Rest for the Wicked</em></a><em> — </em>the story of Sebastian Wroth (vampire) and Kaderin the Cold-Hearted (valkyrie), and the beginning of the IAD Amazing Race mini-arc!  </p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Why do people&nbsp;<a href="http://mentalfloss.com/article/64984/science-behind-why-people-hate-word-moist" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">hate the word moist</a>?</li><li>There really are&nbsp;<a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/travel/paris-catacombs-180950160/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">catacombs below Paris</a>, and they seem very creepy.</li><li><a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/coed" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Co-ed</a>&nbsp;is a more dated word than you'd expect. According to the Oxford English dictionary, it's been in use since the 1880s. Game, set, and match to&nbsp;<em>The Independent</em>, which printed the following sentence in 1903: "Any college where the girls are commonly called ‘co-eds’ is not a truly co-educational institution."</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://kayedacus.com/2008/04/22/writing-the-romance-novel-caveman-and-tstl-heroine/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">TSTL trope</a>&nbsp;in&nbsp;<a href="https://readingromantically.wordpress.com/2011/04/05/would-you-be-tstl/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">romance heroines</a>.</li><li>All about&nbsp;<a href="https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/mary-sue" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mary</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.tckpublishing.com/what-is-a-mary-sue/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sues</a>.</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://bookriot.com/2015/12/15/romance-101-fated-mates/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates trope</a>.</li><li>Maybe you all missed the Kavanaugh hearings. I love myself, so we'll just stick to&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/policy-and-politics/2018/9/28/17914308/kavanaugh-ford-question-dodge-hearing-chart" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">one informative infographic</a>.</li><li>Jen's&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/about-this-site" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">romance book club at 57th Street Books</a>&nbsp;in Chicago's Hyde Park neighborhood. If you're not in Chicago, bookstores and libraries across the country and online will be participating in&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thegreatbigromanceread.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Great Big Romance Read</a>&nbsp;in December 2018. Find your people!</li><li>Romance isn't the only genre examining old favorites through the lens of #MeToo. Molly Ringwald looked back at&nbsp;<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/culture/personal-history/what-about-the-breakfast-club-molly-ringwald-metoo-john-hughes-pretty-in-pink" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">John Hughes and The Breakfast Club in The New Yorker</a>. This&nbsp;<a href="https://www.wnyc.org/story/rethinking-pop-culture-light-metoo/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">podcast from WNYC</a>&nbsp;is about pop culture in the #MeToo era.</li><li>The list of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.rwa.org/p/cm/ld/fid=535" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">RITA award winners</a>, sorted by year.</li><li>A million articles have been written about&nbsp;<strong>Twilight</strong>, but I like this one that looks at&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2012/11/at-its-core-the-twilight-saga-is-a-story-about/265328/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the big themes</a>&nbsp;that bubble up time and time again.</li><li>Alisha Rai has said lots of smart things&nbsp;<a href="https://frolic.media/magic-mike-xxl-smashing-toxic-masculinity/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">about toxic masculinity</a>, as it turns out.</li><li><a href="https://www.elitedaily.com/p/what-fifty-shades-gets-right-wrong-about-bdsm-according-to-expert-8224269" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Representation in BDSM</a>&nbsp;matters.</li><li>Take a&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/69VF7mT4nRU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">crash course in modernity</a>.</li><li>A brief overview of&nbsp;<a href="https://pantheon.org/articles/c/cassandra.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cassandra</a>&nbsp;from Greek mythology.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2JUX5oZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Devil in Winter</a>, because everyone loves to read about a sex deal.</li><li><a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/2011/11/the-bitchery-glossary/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">According to The Smart Bitches</a>, a magic hoo-hah is "shorthand for the equally illustrious and many powers of the female sex organ, specifically the vagina. The Magic Hoo-Hoo tames the Mighty Wang, and becomes the magnetized true north for the hero’s trouser compass from the point of their first sexual coupling. The Magic Hoo-Hoo brings the hero to monogamous attachment, because after experiencing it, the hero will not be satisfied with anything or anyone else."</li><li>I'm sure everyone wants to learn more about&nbsp;<a href="https://earthsky.org/moon-phases/understandingmoonphases" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">moon phases</a>.</li><li>Fury is an actual&nbsp;<a href="https://pantheon.org/articles/f/furiae.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">furie</a>.</li><li>When we say&nbsp;<a href="http://www.murdershewrites.com/tag/lothaire/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lothaire was a big deal</a>, we mean there was an actual Lothaire bus touring around America.</li><li>Are you ready for&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2RMUvEc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">No Rest for the Wicked</a>?</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/11/1-were-gonna-come-back-to-biting-a-hunger-like-no-other </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah &amp; Jen talk<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Hunger-Like-Other-Immortals-After-ebook/dp/B000GCFCXW/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1540948697&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=a+hunger+like+no+other&amp;dpID=51dONDcQ6uL&amp;preST=_SY445_QL70_&amp;dpSrc=srch&amp;linkCode=sl1&amp;tag=fatedmates-20&amp;linkId=d2952b38e6877e32ac3502b33178a789&amp;language=en_US" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> <em>A Hunger Like No Other</em></a><em>,</em> why reading Alphas in 2018 is a tricky situation, how Kresley instantly changed the game with Lachlain MacRieve, and why Emma's bite sets the standard for the whole series.</p><p>Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, a like would be awesome! </p><p>Our next read (in two weeks) will be <a href="https://amzn.to/2RNICh9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>No Rest for the Wicked</em></a><em> — </em>the story of Sebastian Wroth (vampire) and Kaderin the Cold-Hearted (valkyrie), and the beginning of the IAD Amazing Race mini-arc!  </p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Why do people&nbsp;<a href="http://mentalfloss.com/article/64984/science-behind-why-people-hate-word-moist" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">hate the word moist</a>?</li><li>There really are&nbsp;<a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/travel/paris-catacombs-180950160/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">catacombs below Paris</a>, and they seem very creepy.</li><li><a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/coed" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Co-ed</a>&nbsp;is a more dated word than you'd expect. According to the Oxford English dictionary, it's been in use since the 1880s. Game, set, and match to&nbsp;<em>The Independent</em>, which printed the following sentence in 1903: "Any college where the girls are commonly called ‘co-eds’ is not a truly co-educational institution."</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://kayedacus.com/2008/04/22/writing-the-romance-novel-caveman-and-tstl-heroine/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">TSTL trope</a>&nbsp;in&nbsp;<a href="https://readingromantically.wordpress.com/2011/04/05/would-you-be-tstl/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">romance heroines</a>.</li><li>All about&nbsp;<a href="https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/mary-sue" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mary</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.tckpublishing.com/what-is-a-mary-sue/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sues</a>.</li><li>The&nbsp;<a href="https://bookriot.com/2015/12/15/romance-101-fated-mates/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates trope</a>.</li><li>Maybe you all missed the Kavanaugh hearings. I love myself, so we'll just stick to&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/policy-and-politics/2018/9/28/17914308/kavanaugh-ford-question-dodge-hearing-chart" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">one informative infographic</a>.</li><li>Jen's&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jenreadsromance.com/about-this-site" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">romance book club at 57th Street Books</a>&nbsp;in Chicago's Hyde Park neighborhood. If you're not in Chicago, bookstores and libraries across the country and online will be participating in&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thegreatbigromanceread.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Great Big Romance Read</a>&nbsp;in December 2018. Find your people!</li><li>Romance isn't the only genre examining old favorites through the lens of #MeToo. Molly Ringwald looked back at&nbsp;<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/culture/personal-history/what-about-the-breakfast-club-molly-ringwald-metoo-john-hughes-pretty-in-pink" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">John Hughes and The Breakfast Club in The New Yorker</a>. This&nbsp;<a href="https://www.wnyc.org/story/rethinking-pop-culture-light-metoo/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">podcast from WNYC</a>&nbsp;is about pop culture in the #MeToo era.</li><li>The list of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.rwa.org/p/cm/ld/fid=535" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">RITA award winners</a>, sorted by year.</li><li>A million articles have been written about&nbsp;<strong>Twilight</strong>, but I like this one that looks at&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2012/11/at-its-core-the-twilight-saga-is-a-story-about/265328/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the big themes</a>&nbsp;that bubble up time and time again.</li><li>Alisha Rai has said lots of smart things&nbsp;<a href="https://frolic.media/magic-mike-xxl-smashing-toxic-masculinity/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">about toxic masculinity</a>, as it turns out.</li><li><a href="https://www.elitedaily.com/p/what-fifty-shades-gets-right-wrong-about-bdsm-according-to-expert-8224269" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Representation in BDSM</a>&nbsp;matters.</li><li>Take a&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/69VF7mT4nRU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">crash course in modernity</a>.</li><li>A brief overview of&nbsp;<a href="https://pantheon.org/articles/c/cassandra.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cassandra</a>&nbsp;from Greek mythology.</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2JUX5oZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Devil in Winter</a>, because everyone loves to read about a sex deal.</li><li><a href="https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/2011/11/the-bitchery-glossary/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">According to The Smart Bitches</a>, a magic hoo-hah is "shorthand for the equally illustrious and many powers of the female sex organ, specifically the vagina. The Magic Hoo-Hoo tames the Mighty Wang, and becomes the magnetized true north for the hero’s trouser compass from the point of their first sexual coupling. The Magic Hoo-Hoo brings the hero to monogamous attachment, because after experiencing it, the hero will not be satisfied with anything or anyone else."</li><li>I'm sure everyone wants to learn more about&nbsp;<a href="https://earthsky.org/moon-phases/understandingmoonphases" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">moon phases</a>.</li><li>Fury is an actual&nbsp;<a href="https://pantheon.org/articles/f/furiae.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">furie</a>.</li><li>When we say&nbsp;<a href="http://www.murdershewrites.com/tag/lothaire/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lothaire was a big deal</a>, we mean there was an actual Lothaire bus touring around America.</li><li>Are you ready for&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2RMUvEc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">No Rest for the Wicked</a>?</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/11/1-were-gonna-come-back-to-biting-a-hunger-like-no-other </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/11/1-were-gonna-come-back-to-biting-a-hunger-like-no-other]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">6a7ba969-08a4-40ae-aecb-db39b3684fa4</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2018 08:51:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/287c8397-a6a7-495f-9764-b7912d7808e8/FatedMates-1-GonnaComeBackToBiting-RevA.mp3" length="72315444" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:06:39</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>3</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-287c8397-a6a7-495f-9764-b7912d7808e8.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>.5: Rock Star Romance</title><itunes:title>Rock Star Romance</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>While you're reading&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Hunger-Like-Other-Immortals-After-ebook/dp/B000GCFCXW/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1540948697&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=a+hunger+like+no+other&amp;dpID=51dONDcQ6uL&amp;preST=_SY445_QL70_&amp;dpSrc=srch&amp;linkCode=sl1&amp;tag=fatedmates-20&amp;linkId=d2952b38e6877e32ac3502b33178a789&amp;language=en_US" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Hunger Like No Other</a>, we're bringing you off-week romance recommendations, on themes! Join us this week for Rock Star Romances.</p><p><a href="https://www.kristencallihan.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kristen Callihan</a></p><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2PLSk6i" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Idol</a>&nbsp;(VIP Series #1)</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2DoNy9d" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Managed</a>&nbsp;(VIP Series #2)</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2qwAfLu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fall</a>&nbsp;(VIP Series #3)</li><li>Sarah’s first Kristen Callihan book,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2RAHWM8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Evernight</a></li></ul><br/><p><a href="https://kyliescott.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kylie Scott</a></p><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2SOm6pW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lick</a>&nbsp;(Stage Dive Series #1)</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2DoMrX5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Play</a>&nbsp;(Stage Dive Series #2)</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2QlMENH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lead</a>&nbsp;(Stage Dive Series #3)</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2JIwhIn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Deep</a>&nbsp;(Stage Dive Series #4)</li></ul><br/><p><a href="https://annazabo.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Anna Zabo</a></p><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2SO7l6A" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Syncopation</a>&nbsp;(Twisted Wishes #1)</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2SOm959" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Counterpoint</a>&nbsp;(Twisted Wishes #2)</li></ul><br/><p><a href="https://jnwelsh.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">JN Welsh</a></p><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2QmbYTN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">In Tune</a></li><li>Sarah’s first JN Welsh book,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2qsU0n4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gigolo All the Way</a></li></ul><br/><p>The book that made Sarah a Rock Star Romance reader,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2RwZ31o" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Erika Kelly’s Take Me Home Tonight</a></p><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/5/rock-star-romance-interstitial-1 </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While you're reading&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Hunger-Like-Other-Immortals-After-ebook/dp/B000GCFCXW/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1540948697&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=a+hunger+like+no+other&amp;dpID=51dONDcQ6uL&amp;preST=_SY445_QL70_&amp;dpSrc=srch&amp;linkCode=sl1&amp;tag=fatedmates-20&amp;linkId=d2952b38e6877e32ac3502b33178a789&amp;language=en_US" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Hunger Like No Other</a>, we're bringing you off-week romance recommendations, on themes! Join us this week for Rock Star Romances.</p><p><a href="https://www.kristencallihan.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kristen Callihan</a></p><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2PLSk6i" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Idol</a>&nbsp;(VIP Series #1)</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2DoNy9d" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Managed</a>&nbsp;(VIP Series #2)</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2qwAfLu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fall</a>&nbsp;(VIP Series #3)</li><li>Sarah’s first Kristen Callihan book,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2RAHWM8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Evernight</a></li></ul><br/><p><a href="https://kyliescott.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kylie Scott</a></p><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2SOm6pW" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lick</a>&nbsp;(Stage Dive Series #1)</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2DoMrX5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Play</a>&nbsp;(Stage Dive Series #2)</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2QlMENH" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lead</a>&nbsp;(Stage Dive Series #3)</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2JIwhIn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Deep</a>&nbsp;(Stage Dive Series #4)</li></ul><br/><p><a href="https://annazabo.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Anna Zabo</a></p><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2SO7l6A" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Syncopation</a>&nbsp;(Twisted Wishes #1)</li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2SOm959" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Counterpoint</a>&nbsp;(Twisted Wishes #2)</li></ul><br/><p><a href="https://jnwelsh.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">JN Welsh</a></p><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2QmbYTN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">In Tune</a></li><li>Sarah’s first JN Welsh book,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2qsU0n4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gigolo All the Way</a></li></ul><br/><p>The book that made Sarah a Rock Star Romance reader,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/2RwZ31o" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Erika Kelly’s Take Me Home Tonight</a></p><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/5/rock-star-romance-interstitial-1 </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/11/5/rock-star-romance-interstitial-1]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">deb9cfa3-0a80-49a1-8797-4a76b5af9b9f</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2018 08:53:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/ab1227bc-2e90-4e44-87b6-367702b8c0ac/Fated-Mates-Interstitial-1-Rock-Stars-a.mp3" length="25169772" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>20:14</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>2</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-ab1227bc-2e90-4e44-87b6-367702b8c0ac.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>Intro: A Wolf Without A Foot</title><itunes:title>Intro: A Wolf Without A Foot</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to Fated Mates! Author Sarah MacLean and critic Jen Prokop launch their fan podcast about Kresley Cole’s Internationally bestselling paranormal romance series, Immortals After Dark. Sarah and Jen introduce themselves and the series, and talk about its place in the romance genre. Topics include feminism, patriarchy, modernity and Moonstruck. Yes, the one with Cher. Also included, an introduction to the first book in the series, <a href="https://amzn.to/2Q8krcQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>A Hunger Like No Other</strong></a>…the book they’ll be rereading for Episode 1.</p><p>Buy A Hunger Like No Other at <a href="https://amzn.to/2Q8krcQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/hunger-like-no-other-kresley-cole/1100317679#/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/book/a-hunger-like-no-other/id381956728?mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">iBooks</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/a-hunger-like-no-other" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781501120619" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>. </p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Jen wrote about A Hunger Like No Other twice: a&nbsp;<a href="http://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2017/08/throwback-review-hunger-like-no-other.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Throwback Thursday review</a>, and a look at how the&nbsp;<a href="http://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2017/11/lets-talk-old-booknew-covers.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">book covers changed over time</a>.</li><li>A definition of the&nbsp;<a href="https://bookriot.com/2015/12/15/romance-101-fated-mates/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates trope</a>.</li><li>Sarah wrote about&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/954049075703373826" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fated mates and Kresley Cole</a>&nbsp;on twitter.</li><li>What is paranormal romance?</li><li>A&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranormal_romance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">big overview</a>&nbsp;of PNR</li><li>A thoughtful&nbsp;<a href="http://teachmetonight.blogspot.com/2007/01/definition-of-paranormal-romance.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">academic definition</a></li><li>Superhero movies after 9/11</li><li><a href="https://www.vox.com/2015/5/19/8577803/avengers-age-of-ultron-review-politics" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Superhero Movies have become an endless attempt to rewrite 9/11</a>&nbsp;from Vox</li><li><a href="https://lithub.com/on-superheroes-and-the-myths-of-american-power/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">On Superheroes and the Myths of American Power</a>&nbsp;from LitHub</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/vNuVifA7DSU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Monster Mash</a>. And&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/AxcM3nCsglA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">cuter Monster Mash</a>.</li><li>The Immortals after Dark&nbsp;<a href="https://www.audible.com/series?asin=B006W3TF96" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">on Audio</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/953821117482962950" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lots</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1000098557771345920" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lots</a>&nbsp;of&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1001260853172285440" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tweets</a>&nbsp;from us about the audio.</li><li><a href="https://robertpetkoff.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Robert Petkoff</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.audible.com/search?searchNarrator=Robert+Petkoff" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">audiobook narrator</a>&nbsp;of our hearts.</li><li>Kresley Cole’s&nbsp;<a href="http://www.simonandschuster.com/authors/Kresley-Cole/19974464" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pocket Books</a>&nbsp;page</li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093565/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Moonstruck</em></a>,&nbsp;<a href="http://mentalfloss.com/article/84010/13-enchanting-facts-about-moonstruck" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">30 years old</a>&nbsp;and still amazing.</li><li>Sarah wrote about the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/books/how-trump-killed-off-my-romantic-lead/2017/08/08/8e3e40dc-7305-11e7-8839-ec48ec4cae25_story.html?utm_term=.7f1db83655c4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alpha Male in Romance</a>&nbsp;after the 2016 election.</li><li>What is&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_fantasy#Distinction_from_paranormal_romance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Urban Fantasy</a>?</li><li>Have we mentioned that we&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1000095174444376064" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">talk</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/954875152621297665" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">about</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1054171224241303552" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1002928570950410241" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">series</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1054015867778985984" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a lot</a>&nbsp;on twitter</li><li>A&nbsp;<a href="https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Oh4lNb8JucVQt3Emec7bt2j9Y2m1WBZi?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Google folder with PDFs</a>&nbsp;of articles above that still exist online as of 8/2023)</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/10/23/5-a-wolf-without-a-foot-intro </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to Fated Mates! Author Sarah MacLean and critic Jen Prokop launch their fan podcast about Kresley Cole’s Internationally bestselling paranormal romance series, Immortals After Dark. Sarah and Jen introduce themselves and the series, and talk about its place in the romance genre. Topics include feminism, patriarchy, modernity and Moonstruck. Yes, the one with Cher. Also included, an introduction to the first book in the series, <a href="https://amzn.to/2Q8krcQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>A Hunger Like No Other</strong></a>…the book they’ll be rereading for Episode 1.</p><p>Buy A Hunger Like No Other at <a href="https://amzn.to/2Q8krcQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/hunger-like-no-other-kresley-cole/1100317679#/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/book/a-hunger-like-no-other/id381956728?mt=11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">iBooks</a>, <a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/a-hunger-like-no-other" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kobo</a>, or <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781501120619" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">your local indie</a>. </p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li>Jen wrote about A Hunger Like No Other twice: a&nbsp;<a href="http://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2017/08/throwback-review-hunger-like-no-other.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Throwback Thursday review</a>, and a look at how the&nbsp;<a href="http://www.tbqsbookpalace.com/2017/11/lets-talk-old-booknew-covers.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">book covers changed over time</a>.</li><li>A definition of the&nbsp;<a href="https://bookriot.com/2015/12/15/romance-101-fated-mates/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fated Mates trope</a>.</li><li>Sarah wrote about&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/954049075703373826" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fated mates and Kresley Cole</a>&nbsp;on twitter.</li><li>What is paranormal romance?</li><li>A&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranormal_romance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">big overview</a>&nbsp;of PNR</li><li>A thoughtful&nbsp;<a href="http://teachmetonight.blogspot.com/2007/01/definition-of-paranormal-romance.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">academic definition</a></li><li>Superhero movies after 9/11</li><li><a href="https://www.vox.com/2015/5/19/8577803/avengers-age-of-ultron-review-politics" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Superhero Movies have become an endless attempt to rewrite 9/11</a>&nbsp;from Vox</li><li><a href="https://lithub.com/on-superheroes-and-the-myths-of-american-power/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">On Superheroes and the Myths of American Power</a>&nbsp;from LitHub</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/vNuVifA7DSU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Monster Mash</a>. And&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/AxcM3nCsglA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">cuter Monster Mash</a>.</li><li>The Immortals after Dark&nbsp;<a href="https://www.audible.com/series?asin=B006W3TF96" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">on Audio</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/953821117482962950" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lots</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1000098557771345920" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lots</a>&nbsp;of&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1001260853172285440" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tweets</a>&nbsp;from us about the audio.</li><li><a href="https://robertpetkoff.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Robert Petkoff</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.audible.com/search?searchNarrator=Robert+Petkoff" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">audiobook narrator</a>&nbsp;of our hearts.</li><li>Kresley Cole’s&nbsp;<a href="http://www.simonandschuster.com/authors/Kresley-Cole/19974464" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pocket Books</a>&nbsp;page</li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093565/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Moonstruck</em></a>,&nbsp;<a href="http://mentalfloss.com/article/84010/13-enchanting-facts-about-moonstruck" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">30 years old</a>&nbsp;and still amazing.</li><li>Sarah wrote about the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/books/how-trump-killed-off-my-romantic-lead/2017/08/08/8e3e40dc-7305-11e7-8839-ec48ec4cae25_story.html?utm_term=.7f1db83655c4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alpha Male in Romance</a>&nbsp;after the 2016 election.</li><li>What is&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_fantasy#Distinction_from_paranormal_romance" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Urban Fantasy</a>?</li><li>Have we mentioned that we&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1000095174444376064" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">talk</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/954875152621297665" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">about</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1054171224241303552" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/JenReadsRomance/status/1002928570950410241" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">series</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1054015867778985984" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a lot</a>&nbsp;on twitter</li><li>A&nbsp;<a href="https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Oh4lNb8JucVQt3Emec7bt2j9Y2m1WBZi?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Google folder with PDFs</a>&nbsp;of articles above that still exist online as of 8/2023)</li></ul><br/><p><h2>The Rest</h2><ul><li>For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/10/23/5-a-wolf-without-a-foot-intro </li><li>If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at <a href="https://patreon.com/fatedmates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/fatedmates</a>. </li><li>Beyond your <a href="https://mf.fatedmates.net/listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">favorite podcast app</a>, you can find us on <a href="https://instagram.com/fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@fatedmatespod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Threads</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/fatedmates.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Blue Sky</a>, <a href="https://fated-mates.tumblr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>, and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. </li><li>If you've never listened to our <a href="https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2022/10/2/stop-book-banning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stop Book Banning episode</a>, there's no better time than now. </li></ul><br/> </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2018/10/23/5-a-wolf-without-a-foot-intro]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">d88db370-f316-4e4e-a2f6-2fee0fbbf065</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf72ead3-5923-498d-8717-800adee158d0/fm-logo-3000-small-file-size.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2018 08:56:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/4fbb3b30-c302-4b9f-a0f4-74d9d2b12996/FatedMates-0-5-10-24-18-11-54-AM.mp3" length="45767051" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>42:38</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>1</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-4fbb3b30-c302-4b9f-a0f4-74d9d2b12996.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item></channel></rss>