From There to Here

Who’s your organisation leaving out? A Conversation with DEI strategist Khayshie Tilak Ramesh

Mon, 05 Jan 2026 08:00:00 +1100

In this episode, DEI strategist Khayshie Tilak Ramesh shares her journey from a childhood experience of being “othered” to becoming a leading voice in creating more inclusive spaces. She demystifies intersectionality - how overlapping systems of oppression create unique experiences of discrimination – and explores how we can address compounded marginalisation. The conversation dives deep into shifting from non-racism to active anti-racism, with practical insights on indifference and neutrality, and navigating entrenched workplace resistance. Khayshie shares tangible strategies for navigating difficult DEI conversations, from understanding the interests behind a person’s position to the art of “calling in” versus “calling out” discriminatory systems. She reflects on the personal cost of advocacy, the tension between being bold versus palatable, and why rest is resistance - not a luxury.

For anyone committed to building a more equitable world, this episode offers both the conceptual framework and actionable tools to move from awareness to meaningful action.

Chapters:

00:00 - Introduction

01:44 - The Journey of Otherness

07:22 - Understanding Intersectionality

20:33 - The Distinction Between Non-Racist and Anti-Racist

36:31 - Negotiation: Interests vs. Positions

41:13 - Navigating the Movable Middle in Advocacy

44:58 - The Challenge of Being a DEI Strategist

49:02 - Balancing Boldness and Palatability in Advocacy

53:01 - Understanding Advocacy Burnout

01:01:35 - Being comfortable with No in Self-Advocacy

01:05:22 - Valuing Stories and Knowledge Beyond Books

01:08:29 - Redefining the Narrative of Migrants

01:12:01 - Authenticity in Advocacy and Representation

01:16:52 - Conclusion

Resources mentioned:

“Invisible Women” by Caroline Criado Perez
“Why Are All the Black Kids Sitting Together in the Cafeteria?” by Beverly Daniel Tatum
“Getting to Yes” by Fisher and Ury

Connect with Khayshie:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/khayshie/

Website: https://khayshie.com/

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Unmuting Women of Colour: From Silence to Reclaiming your Voice with Richa Joshi

Fri, 19 Dec 2025 15:00:00 +1100

Host Emma Bellamy-Dodd sits with Richa Joshi, who helps quiet voices get loud - especially women of colour who have been muted by systems, labels, and cultural expectations. In this episode, Richa shares her personal journey of (un-)learning to “shrink” to fit in and how parenthood became the catalyst for breaking generational cycles of silence. The conversation delves into the messy but essential work of “unmuting” - a process of unlearning harmful conditioning, challenging internalised narratives, and healing from self-erasure. Richa challenges the idea that integration is a one-sided task migrants must perform alone, reframing belonging as mutual adaptation where everyone evolves. Together, they explore the power of deconstructing our own cultural biases and moving beyond limiting labels and stereotypes – like the model minority myth - to embrace our evolving, intersectional identities.

Chapters:

• 0:00 - Introduction

• 3:00 - Identity Formation and Migration

• 11:56 - The Emotional Process of Unmuting

• 23:00 - Cultural Adaptation vs. Assimilation

• 42:04 - Deconstructing Cultural Norms and Challenging Labelling

• 48:54 - Power, Privilege, and Mutuality

• 1:06:41 - The Role of Authenticity and Self-Reflection

• 1:18:02 - Conclusion

Resources mentioned:

“The Good Immigrant” by Nikesh Shukla
“The Leader unwritten: Becoming who you’re meant to be” by Premila Jina

Connect with X:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/richajoshi1978/

Website: unmutingyou.com

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Ambiguously Brown: Navigating Mixed Identity with Zozan Balci

Fri, 05 Dec 2025 15:30:00 +1100

Zozan Balci is a researcher and author who explores the lived experiences of mixed heritage individuals navigating cultural in-betweenness. Born in Germany to Italian and Turkish migrant parents, Zozan lost her ability to speak Turkish as a child - a loss that sparked years of reflection and ultimately became the foundation of her PhD research. In this conversation, Zozan shares powerful stories from her book about the emotional weight of being “ambiguously Brown,” the invasive “Where are you from?” question, and how “in-betweeners” often erase parts of themselves to fit into dominant cultures. She discusses the racialization of cultural identity, the deep connection between language and relationships, and why well-meaning practices of inclusion can emphasise differences and eventually harm children. Zozan also introduces her documentary project “Say Our Names,” which addresses the everyday microaggression of name mispronunciation, and shares practical strategies for creating micro-inclusions. This episode challenges listeners to sit with discomfort, question their assumptions about belonging, and recognise that mixedness isn’t a deficit - it’s a rich, valid identity deserving of recognition and respect.

Chapters:

• 0:00 - Introduction & Welcome

• 1:41 – The Personal Story Behind the Research

• 5:00 – The Experience of “Ambiguous Brownness”

• 10:00 – Feeling Not Enough of Anything

• 15:51 – Why People Reject or Embrace Heritage Languages

• 20:00 – Language as Connection, Not Asset

• 24:59 – Race, Visibility, and Identity

• 25:00 – Normalizing Mixedness

• 30:00 – The Exhausting Emotional Labor

• 33:30 – Say Our Names Documentary

• 40:00 – Empowering Multilingual Students in Classrooms

• 45:00 – Resisting Academic Conformity

• 50:00 – The Myth of Objectivity in Social Science

• 52:30 – Final Words of Wisdom

• 55:29 – Dr. Rukia Odero’s Wisdom

• 56:50 – What Does “Migrant” Mean?

• 58:40 – What Is Home?

• 1:00:00 – Before and After: Finding Authentic Voice

• 1:02:33 – What’s Next: Micro-Inclusion & Closing

Resources mentioned:

• Book: Erased Voices and Unspoken Heritage: Language, Identity and Belonging in the Lives of Cultural In-betweeners, by Zozan Balci. Available in Routledge.

• Thesis: To Speak or Not to Speak? The Dilemma of Heritage Language and Identity for the Culturally Hybrid Generation, by Zozan Balci. Available here: https://opus.lib.uts.edu.au/bitstream/10453/147366/2/02whole.pdf

• Documentary: “Say Our Names” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz2PUakvfH8 -

• TV Show: “Kim’s Convenience” (Canadian TV show about a Korean migrant family recommended for its honest, funny take on identity).

Connect with Zozan: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drzozanbalci/

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Being a Brown Female Doctor with Sarah Arachchi

Fri, 21 Nov 2025 05:00:00 +1100

Dr. Sarah Aratchi brings a powerful and heartfelt account of migrating to Australia as a child, reflecting on the everyday realities being “othered” due to her surname and skin colour. She unpacks the lasting impact of being “the brown kid” in school and the constant questioning about where she’s “really from” that followed her into adulthood.

The conversation also highlights the subtle ways in which sexism pervades the medical field - from being misidentified as a nurse to continually having to assert her expertise as a doctor. Rather than viewing her dual heritage as a burden, Sarah embraces what she calls being a “cross-cultural kid” - someone who can authentically inhabit multiple cultural spaces. She encourages others to resist the pressure to choose between identities, instead celebrating the richness that comes from blending Australian and heritage cultures through food, traditions, and community. Her journey from exclusion to empowerment illustrates how authentic self-expression can emerge from embracing multiplicity rather than conformity to a single narrative.

00:00 Journey of Migration and Childhood Memories

06:05 Navigating School Life as a Minority

12:00 The Impact of Cultural Questions

17:56 Experiences of Sexism in Medicine

25:54 Balancing Motherhood and Career

33:54 The Strength of Women in Dual Roles

38:13 The Journey of a Woman in Medicine

39:54 Writing a Memoir: A Personal Reflection

42:11 The Emotional Toll of Medicine

47:55 Cultural Identity and Migration

52:29 Finding Belonging in a Multicultural Society

56:06 The Power of Authenticity and Advocacy

Resources mentioned:

Brown. Female. Doctor. By Sarah Arachchi (available on Amazon)

Looking for Alibrandi, by Melina Marchetta

Where is the Green Sheep? by Mem Fox

Connect with Sarah:

Instagram: @kidsdoctorsarah

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A Cultural Psychology Conversation with Deborah Ko

Fri, 07 Nov 2025 05:00:00 +1100

In this episode, host Emma Bellamy-Dodd sits down with cultural psychologist Deborah Ko for an eye-opening conversation on identity, belonging, and adaptation across cultures. Deborah shares her personal experiences growing up at the intersection of American and Hong Kong backgrounds, and reveals how cultural psychology became a lens for understanding her multiple selves. The discussion explores the discomfort of duality and dialecticism, Western versus Eastern notions of selfhood, and the fluid meaning of authenticity for those living between cultures. They unpack leadership and workplace dynamics, examining how the “ideal leader” looks like across cultures and how multicultural teams navigate these hidden norms. Deborah offers insights on communication, self-presentation, and adapting to professional norms abroad. The conversation also tackles how AI risks ironing out our individual quirks and cultural nuances, highlighting the critical importance of intentional engagement with technology. Memorable reflections on home, third-culture kids, and embracing complexity round out this compelling exploration of life in the in-between.

Chapters

00:00 Cultural Psychology: An Introduction

02:30 Growing Up Between Cultures

06:17 Understanding Identity Across Cultures

11:31 The Interdependent vs. Independent Self

16:32 Self-Presentation and Cultural Expectations

22:52 Leadership and Cultural Biases

28:16 Cultural Morality: What’s Right or Wrong Across Contexts

33:33 Communication Styles and Cultural Norms

40:14 Emotional Expression Across Cultures

45:59 Honesty vs. Kindness in Communication

51:17 The Impact of AI on Authenticity

57:05 Cultural Nuances in AI Communication

01:05:40 The Role of Critical Thinking in the Age of AI

01:13:28 Cultural Identity and the Migrant Experience

01:19:50 Closing Reflections

Resources mentioned:

“Geography of Thought” by Richard Nisbett

“The Culture Map” by Erin Meyer

“On Earth We’re Briefly Gorgeous” by Ocean Vuong

“Crying in H Mart” by Michelle Zauner

Connect with Deborah:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/deborahko/

Medium: https://psykobabble.medium.com/

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From Shame to Strength: Owning Your Migrant Story with Fabiola Campbell

Fri, 24 Oct 2025 12:00:00 +1100

In this conversation, host Emma Bellamy-Dodd speaks with Fabiola Campbell, founder and CEO of Professional Migrant Women and author of the upcoming book “Own it”. Fabiola shares her deeply personal migration story - born in Australia but raised in Venezuela, Fabiola returned as an adult expecting to feel at home, only to confront the reality of being a migrant in her birth country. Fabiola opens up about what she calls “the death of the superwoman” - the confident, capable person she was in Venezuela who disappeared when language barriers stripped away her ability to express herself. She explores the profound loss of identity and social capital that comes with migration, where achievements and connections that defined you back home suddenly carry no meaning. The conversation delves into the shame many migrants carry, the internal hierarchies of migrant “worth,” and the journey from focusing on what you lack to recognizing your strengths. Fabiola introduces her DARE method for reclaiming identity with courage and discusses the importance of daring to take up space and be seen.

Resources mentioned:

“Own it”, by Fabiola Campbell

To buy her book, click on the following link: https://www.amazon.com.au/Own-call-women-D-R/dp/B0FPBLW5TV

Connect with Fabiola or Professional Migrant Women (PMW):

Fabiola’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fabiola-campbell/

Website: professionalmigrantwomen.com.au

PMW Level Up Platform: https://professionalmigrantwomen.com.au/level-up-platform-launch/

Chapters:

00:00 Introduction

01:30 Meeting Fabiola Campbell and Her Journey

02:39 The Death of the Superwoman: Identity Crisis as a Migrant

09:04 Grieving the Past: Loss of Self and Social Capital

14:04 Shame and Internalized Identity: The Struggle of Being a Migrant

26:12 Empowerment Through Understanding: Shifting Perspectives

45:29 Daring to Take Up Space: Embracing Identity and Growth

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Let’s Talk About It: Loneliness, Racism, and Finding Belonging with Ochan Aba

Fri, 10 Oct 2025 13:00:00 +1100

In this episode, Ochan shares his multifaceted journey as someone of South Sudanese and Ugandan heritage, born in Ethiopia to migrant parents, whose family later moved to Kenya before eventually resettling in Australia. He opens up about the challenges he faced after arriving, including experiences of loneliness, racism, and racial profiling. Ochan discusses how these moments influenced his approach to content creation, helping him embrace and express his authentic self. He highlights the importance of community, mental health awareness, and the need for deeper connections in a society that often feels isolating. Ochan also offers thoughtful advice for new migrants and shares insights on what it means to belong in a multicultural landscape.

Resources mentioned:

Ochan Aba recommends “The African Diary” social media profile and its book, which features the creator telling stories while riding a bike through Nairobi.

Connect with Ochan:

Instagram and TikTok: @letstalkwithaboutit

Chapters:

(00:00 Introduction

(01:35 Meeting Ochan and Authenticity in Content Creation

05:18 The Journey of Self-Discovery and Confidence

06:51 Expectations vs. Reality: Migrating to Australia

08:27 Experiencing Racism and Discrimination

14:11 Navigating Social Isolation and Loneliness

17:32 Building Relationships in a New Culture

20:00 Cultural Differences in Communication

22:40 Creating Community and Connection

23:50 The Impact of Technology on Relationships

25:22 The Loneliness in Crowds

26:43 Experiencing Racial Profiling

30:11 The Impact of Racial Profiling on Identity

33:55 Advice for New Migrants

37:34 The Metaphor of Migration

40:48 Belonging Between Cultures

45:08 The Importance of Connection and Mental Health

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Surviving the Impossible: Yaser Naseri’s Journey from Iran to Australia

Fri, 26 Sep 2025 05:00:00 +1100

In this episode of From There to Here, Emma Bellamy-Dodd speaks with Yaser Naseri, who fled Iran after political activism made staying impossible. Yaser describes life in Tehran, the dangers of protesting, and tough decisions that led him to Indonesia - where multiple failed escape attempts and a deadly boat disaster profoundly shaped him. He recalls surviving at sea, time in detention, and the everyday struggles of life as an asylum seeker with no language or financial resources. Through stark challenges, Yaser finds new reserves of resilience and discovers community and belonging in unexpected places. He shares how traumatic events, adjustment to difficulties, and perspective have changed his life, and why “just taking the next best step” matters. Yaser reflects on redefining home, balancing gratitude and grief, and the ongoing mental game of overcoming adversity.

Resources mentioned:

Talent is never enough, by John C. Maxwell

Connect with Yaser:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/yasernaseri/

Chapters:

(00:00) Introduction: Meeting Yaser Naseri

(02:23) Growing Up in Tehran: Family and Community

(06:03) Political Awakening and Green Movement Protests

(13:09) The Turning Point: Fear, Danger, and Escape

(18:03) Arrival in Indonesia: First Steps into the Unknown

(23:07) Failed Escape Attempts and Facing Detention

(35:55) The Boat Disaster: Surviving at Sea

(52:54) Detention Trauma and Unexpected Resilience

(57:36) Waiting in Limbo: Jakarta and Building Community

(1:03:27) Lessons Learned: Resilience, Perspective, and Growth

(1:11:18) Life in Australia: Adaptation and Mental Strength

(1:17:13) Advice for Newcomers: Taking the Next Step

(1:21:17) Sources of Inspiration: Books and Mentors

(1:23:09) Definitions: Refugee, Home, and Identity

(1:27:29) The Power of Sharing Stories

(1:27:55) Connect with Yaser & Closing Reflections

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The Power of Sport to Rebuild: How Roman Abasy Champions Refugee Integration Through Sport

Fri, 12 Sep 2025 05:00:00 +1100

In this podcast episode, Roman Abasy shares his inspiring journey from Afghanistan to Australia as a refugee and human rights advocate. He discusses his background as a Taekwondo champion, his transition to advocating for women's rights in sports, and the challenges he faced adapting to a new culture. Roman emphasizes the importance of sports in helping refugees integrate into their new communities and highlights the unique challenges faced by young refugees today. He also shares his hopes for the future of women's rights in Afghanistan and offers advice to fellow refugees and migrants on navigating their new lives.

Resource mentioned:

The Kite Runner, by Khaled Hosseini

Connect with Roman:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/roman-abasy-702ab2227/

Chapters:

(00:00) Introduction to Roman Abasy

(01:36) Journey from Afghanistan to Australia

(10:06) The Power of Sports in Integration

(17:05) Challenges Faced by Young Refugees

(21:06) Hopes for Women's Rights in Afghanistan

(22:00) Advice for Refugees and Migrants

(24:54) Reflections on Identity and Home

(31:12) Conclusion

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Becoming My Self: Rugare Gomo on Owning Identity, Creating Safe Spaces, Asking for Help, and Pursuing Freedom

Fri, 29 Aug 2025 05:00:00 +1100

In this episode, host Emma Bellamy-Dodd speaks with Rugare Gomo, author, leadership coach, and Zimbabwean-born migrant, about his journey toward embracing his authentic self in Australia. Rugare discusses growing up under strict societal and cultural expectations, navigating identity as a gay Black African man, and overcoming years of statelessness and exclusion. He highlights the unique tensions migrants face between safety and authenticity, and the resulting challenges to mental health and belonging. Rugare describes his path to self-acceptance as gradual, shaped by forming genuine communities and learning to ask for help. He rejects the myth of the “self-made” individual, emphasizing instead the collective power of community. The conversation stresses the value of creating safe spaces for others, the importance of curiosity and courage, and how adversity can be transformed into agency. Rugare encourages listeners to celebrate their resilience and seek connection as foundational to personal and societal change.

Resources mentioned:

Forging my own path, by Rugare Gomo

The words that remain, by Sténio Gardel

Ego is the enemy, by Ryan holiday

Connect with Rugare:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rugaregomo/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/rugaregomo/

Instagram: @rugaregomo

Website: https://www.rugaregomo.com/

Chapters:

(00:00:00) Introduction to Rugare's Journey

(00:00:43) The Impact of Statelessness

(00:01:10) The Quest for Freedom

(00:01:26) Navigating Identity and Safety

(00:04:29) The Infinite Possibility of Migrants

(00:05:18) The Importance of Community

(00:17:59) Messages of Change and Growth

(00:36:24) The Power of Asking for Help

(01:02:19) Creating Safety for Others

(01:05:00) Reclaiming Identity

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Navigating Mental Health in Refugee Populations: A Conversation with Nooria Mehraby

Fri, 15 Aug 2025 05:00:00 +1100

In this conversation, Nooria Mehraby shares her profound journey from being a refugee to becoming a clinician and advocate for mental health among refugees. She discusses the traumatic experiences of fleeing Afghanistan, her life in refugee camps in Pakistan, and the challenges of resettling in Australia. Drawing on her personal and professional experience, Nooria sheds light on the unique mental health challenges faced by refugees - emphasizing the need for holistic, culturally sensitive approaches to care. She explores the resilience and strength within refugee communities, the vital importance of community support in healing, and the role clinicians play in fostering safe, inclusive spaces for their clients. The discussion also covers the challenges refugees face in maintaining their identity and the importance of seeking help for mental health issues. Nooria offers practical insights on how to support refugees in preserving their cultural heritage while integrating into a new society.

Resources mentioned:

The Kite Runner by Khaled Hosseini (also a film adaptation)
Tales from a Suitcase: The Afghan Experience (SBS documentary series and book, featuring Nooria’s story)
No Other Land (documentary)
Rewire Your Brain by Dr. John Arden
Trauma and Recovery by Dr. Judith Herman

Article by Nooria: Adapting CBT with non-Western clients

https://search.informit.org/doi/abs/10.3316/INFORMIT.492751480937975

Connect with Nooria, or STARTTS:

Facebook: https://facebook.com/STARTTSNSW/
Instagram: https://instagram.com/starttsnsw/
LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/STARTTS/

Chapters:

(00:00) Nouria's Journey: From Refugee to Advocate

(05:08) Life in Pakistan: Rebuilding from Scratch

(09:56) Transition to Australia: New Beginnings and Losses

(14:47) Mental Health Challenges for Refugees

(20:03) Holistic Approaches to Refugee Trauma

(25:13) Culturally Sensitive Counseling Techniques

(30:02) Case Study: Healing Through Cultural Context

(46:59) Cultural Relevance in Clinical Practice

(55:20) Understanding Refugee Identity and Trauma

(01:00:46) The Importance of Seeking Help

(01:02:30) Literature and Resources for Refugees

(01:05:32) Reflections on Resilience and Strength

(01:08:10) Navigating Identity as a Refugee

(01:17:57) Building Inclusive Communities for Refugees

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Navigating Code-Switching, Empathy Limitations, the Pressure to Be Grateful and the Complexities of Belonging: Mish Kumar-Jonson on Migrant Healing

Fri, 01 Aug 2025 13:00:00 +1100

In this episode of From There to Here, host Emma Bellamy-Dodd sits down with Mish Kumar-Jonson - a queer, non-binary, neurodivergent South Indian migrant who has called India, Oman, France, the US, New Zealand, and Australia home. Mish shares a deeply personal and insightful journey through multiple migrations, exploring how cultural identity is shaped, challenged, and redefined across borders and contexts. They discuss the complexities of adapting to new cultures, the challenges of code switching, and the pressure migrants often feel to maintain a positive façade of gratitude at the expense of their genuine feelings and struggles. Mishma also explores the double empathy problem, the limitations of empathy, and the need to prioritise compassion over empathy in therapeutic practice. They discuss the significance of investing in joy rather than solely focusing on trauma, drawing on the wisdom of First Nations and Black communities and the importance of art, dance, and celebration for healing.

Chapters:

(00:00) Cultural Identity and Migration Journey

(08:55) The Challenge of Code Switching

(21:05) Navigating Gratefulness and Criticism as a Migrant

(27:23) Defining Australian‑ness and Cultural Perceptions

(35:12) Empathy and the Double Empathy Problem

(42:40) Intersectionality and Community Dynamics

(50:18) Understanding Accents and Communication

(55:09) Compassion Over Empathy

(58:44) The Limits of Empathy

(01:02:33) Expanding Horizons and Responsibility

(01:07:12) Investing in Joy Over Trauma

(01:12:40) Finding Belonging and Community

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How to Navigate Migration as an Introvert: Embrace Your Quiet Strenghts with Serena Low

Fri, 25 Jul 2025 05:00:00 +1100

In this episode, Serena Lowe shares her journey as an introverted migrant from Singapore to Australia. She discusses the challenges and strengths of being an introvert in a new culture, the importance of community, and how to embrace one's introverted nature.

Serena emphasizes the need for self-acceptance and the value of quiet strengths in a world that often rewards extroverted behaviour. With the host, they explore the interplay between culture, personality, and belonging, offering practical advice for introverted migrants and anyone navigating new environments.

If you’re a migrant, introvert, or both, Serena’s story is a reminder that your quiet strengths are powerful assets. Find your community, celebrate your unique perspective, and remember: you are not alone on this journey.

Chapters:

(00:00) Introduction to Serena Lowe

(00:15) Navigating Life as an Introverted Migrant

(06:02) The Advantages of Introversion

(08:36) Finding Alternative Networking Strategies

(13:03) Introverts vs. Extroverts in Migration

(14:55) Embracing Introversion in an Extroverted World

(21:25) The Quiet Warrior Concept

(22:40) Shifting Perspectives on Leadership

(26:00) Advice for Introverted Migrants

(28:45) The Importance of Community

(30:55) Reflections on Migration and Identity

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The Power of Bilingualism: A Conversation with Antonella Sorace

Fri, 18 Jul 2025 06:30:00 +1100

In this episode, Antonella Sorace, Director of Bilingualism Matters, joins the host to share her personal journey and dispel common myths about bilingualism. Together, they explore how bilingualism shapes identity and fosters adaptability, with Antonella explaining that while bilinguals often feel “in between” cultures, this very adaptability is a key advantage. She discusses cognitive benefits, including improved attention and earlier development of perspective-taking in bilingual children. The conversation also touches on what happens when native languages aren’t used regularly and feel less accessible over time – even if words or grammar become harder to access, these languages are never truly lost and can be reactivated with exposure. Antonella highlights the importance of maintaining minority languages, the role of artificial intelligence in language preservation, and the risks of linguistic homogenisation. Listeners are encouraged to embrace and value their own linguistic diversity.

Chapters:

00:00 Introduction to Bilingualism

01:07 Personal Journey into Bilingualism

04:13 Common Misconceptions about Bilingualism

06:15 Bilingualism and Identity

11:40 Cognitive Benefits of Bilingualism

18:16 Language Accessibility and Attrition

22:44 Cultural Value of Non-Dominant Languages

29:30 The Importance of Maintaining Home Languages

34:39 Empathy and Perspective in Bilingualism

35:06 The Importance of Bilingualism

38:34 Misconceptions About Bilingualism

40:00 The Role of AI in Language Preservation

44:45 Encouraging Language Learning in Adults

48:00 The Value of Maintaining Bilingualism

52:43 Bilingualism as an Adventure

54:24 Identity and Belonging in Bilingualism

Resources mentioned:

Bilingualism Matters, by Maria Garraffa, Antonella Sorace, and Maria Vender

Connect with Antonella:

Bilingualism Matters’ website: https://www.bilingualism-matters.org/

Antonella’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/antonella-sorace-2214625/

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From Somalia to Australia: Abdi Aden’s Lessons in Resilience as a Former Refugee

Fri, 11 Jul 2025 18:30:00 +1100

In this episode, Abdi Aden shares his incredible journey from Somalia to Australia, detailing the impact of the civil war on his life and the challenges he faced as a refugee.

He discusses how he found purpose through motivational speaking, the challenges he faced due to societal expectations and discrimination, and how he overcame them by embracing his identity and building genuine connections with young people.

Abdi emphasizes the importance of treating youth with respect and positivity, and shares valuable insights on navigating cultural differences and disarming prejudice.

He concludes with empowering advice for immigrants and refugees, encouraging them to embrace their uniqueness as a strength and overcome the fear of judgment.

Chapters:

(00:00) Journey from Somalia to Australia

(05:08) The Impact of War and Refugee Experience

(09:07) Survival and Resilience in Refugee Camps

(12:20) Navigating Identity and Belonging

(14:15) The Struggles of Rebuilding Life

(20:20) Finding Purpose through Teaching and Speaking

(23:40) Lessons in Kindness and Community

(27:10) The Importance of Education and Opportunity

(30:00) Embracing Life's Challenges

(32:00) The Power of Storytelling and Sharing Experiences

(33:08) Overcoming Societal Expectations

(36:10) The Journey to Becoming a Youth Worker

(37:55) Building Genuine Connections with Youth

(39:20) Disarming Prejudice and Stereotypes

(40:40) Embracing Identity and Difference

(41:50) Advice for Immigrants and Refugees

(42:30) Overcoming the Fear of Judgment

(43:00) Gradual Exposure to Vulnerability

(43:30) The Struggle with Vulnerability and Shame

(44:00) The Importance of Sharing Success

(45:00) Redefining the Term 'Refugee'

(46:00) Finding Home in Australia

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Requalifying as a Veterinarian: Natalia Gomez’s Journey From Colombia to Australia

Fri, 04 Jul 2025 05:00:00 +1100

In this conversation, Natalia Gomez shares her transformative journey from Colombia to Australia, discussing her motivations for leaving her home country, including the cultural dissonance she experienced with Colombia’s ‘machista’ norms. She recounts the challenges of securing a skill-aligned job, preparing for the Australia Veterinary Exam, and requalifying as a veterinarian in Australia. She opens up about her experiences studying with ADHD, the sacrifices she made to achieve her goals, and the importance of creating support systems. She offers practical advice for those looking to requalify and highlights the significance of motivation and overcoming fear throughout the process. Ultimately, Natalia's story is one of perseverance, embracing discomfort, and pursuing fulfilment in a new land.

Chapters

00:00 Leaving Colombia

03:10 Cultural Dissonance

07:35 The Struggles of Immigrating

12:30 Requalifying as a Veterinarian

18:45 Navigating Life with ADHD and Study Challenges

22:50 The Cost of Sacrifice: Health vs. Success

24:50 Creating Support Systems for Overseas Vets

27:00 Overcoming the Fear of Requalification

28:20 Step-by-Step: The Path to Registration

29:15 Finding Motivation in Difficult Times

30:20 The Courage of Migrants

31:15 Embracing Discomfort for Belonging

Resource mentioned:

You’ve got this, by Dominic Bertolucci

Connect with Natalia:

Natalia’s website ‘Brainybilby’: https://brainybilby.com.au/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nataliathevet/

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When Gloria Tabi Took the Wig Off and Found Enough

Fri, 27 Jun 2025 06:00:00 +1100

In this episode, Emma Bellamy-Dodd interviews Gloria Tabi, founder of Everyday inclusion and Enable Women Africa, about her journey from Ghana to Australia and her fight against systemic racism. Gloria shares how colonial legacies and the search for opportunity shaped her migration, and describes the invisible barriers she faced in Australia’s workplaces despite her qualifications. She discusses how researching race structures helped her move past self-blame and highlights the personal and political impact of hair discrimination, explaining how Black women often feel pressure to hide their natural hair. Gloria recounts the fear and eventual empowerment of wearing her natural hair openly, and her commitment to ensuring young Black girls can embrace their identity without shame.

Chapters:

00:00 Introduction to Gloria Tabi's Journey

02:15 Experiencing Racism in Australia

06:30 Transitioning to Advocacy

10:05 Hair Discrimination as a Form of Racism

13:50 Embracing Natural Identity

17:10 The Struggles of Identity and Professional Spaces

21:35 Systemic Change for Inclusion

26:05 Celebrating Natural Hair and Empowerment

30:00 Personal Actions Against Racism

33:20 Navigating Hair Discrimination

36:40 Books That Inspire and Empower

40:10 The Power of Adaptability and Resilience

43:50 Finding Home and Belonging

Resources mentioned:

The Bluest Eye by Toni Morrison

Traces of History by Patrick Wolfe

Gloria’s upcoming book: Enough

Connect with Gloria:

Gloria’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gloriatabi/

Gloria’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gloriabinks/

Gloria’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/gloria.tabi.binks

Everyday Inclusion: https://www.everydayinclusion.com.au/

Vote for Gloria at the Legacy International Pageant:

https://legacyinternationalpageant.com/gloria-tabi

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From Refugee to Women’s Advocate: Maryam's Inspiring Journey

Fri, 20 Jun 2025 05:00:00 +1100

In this insightful episode, Maryam Zahid shares her powerful journey from being a refugee in Afghanistan to becoming a community leader and advocate for women's rights in Australia. She reflects on her childhood experiences during the war, the challenges of resettling in a new country, and her mission to empower Afghan women. Through her work, she addresses issues of trauma, gender inequality, and the importance of building supportive networks for new arrivals. Maryam emphasizes the resilience of refugees and the need to challenge misconceptions about their experiences.

Chapters:

(00:00) - Intro & Maryam's Journey: From Afghanistan to Australia

(04:15) - Childhood Memories: The Impact of War

(08:42) - Understanding Gender Inequality in Afghanistan

(12:37) - The Decision to Leave: A Family's Escape

(17:20) - Arriving in Australia: Challenges and Opportunities

(21:55) - Healing Through Helping: The Power of Community

(26:40) - Empowering Afghan Women: A Mission of Advocacy

(31:10) - Overcoming Barriers: Building Confidence in Women

(35:30) - Facing Resistance: The Struggle for Gender Equality

(40:05) - Visibility and Leadership: The Price of Being Outspoken

(45:18) - Advice for New Arrivals: Building a Support Network

(49:45) - Debunking Misconceptions: The Reality of Refugees

(54:10) - Embracing Australian Identity: A Personal Reflection

Maryam’s book recommendation:

Happy Refugee, by Anh Do

To contact / follow Maryam:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/maryam-zahid-858893143/

https://www.instagram.com/maryam_popal_zahid_/

https://afghanwomenonthemove.org.au/

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Helping Refugees Overcome Trauma Through Storytelling & Drama Therapy: A Conversation with Catherine Maguire-Donvito

Fri, 13 Jun 2025 11:00:00 +1100

In this conversation, Catherine Maguire-Donvito, Co-founder and Director of Treehouse Theatre, shares the program’s unique approach to supporting refugee adolescents through storytelling and theatrical performance. The initiative is designed to facilitate trauma recovery and raise awareness about the refugee experience among high school students. Catherine emphasizes the importance of building trust and connection among participants before delving into their trauma stories. She explains how narrative exposure therapy helps them develop new cognitive networks and process their traumatic experiences effectively. Catherine also recounts memorable performances and the ripple effect of these performances on both participants and viewers, underscoring the need for empathy and understanding in addressing the refugee crisis.

Chapters:

(00:00) - Introduction

(00:28) - The Treehouse Program

(03:43) - Origins of the Treehouse Program

(04:31) - Storytelling as a Path to Connection

(05:55) - Art Therapy for Trauma Recovery

(06:43) - Sharing Happy Stories Before Trauma

(07:22) - Creating a Sense of Belonging

(08:01) - Building Confidence Through Performance

(09:02) - The Healing Power of the Program

(10:17) - Grief, Loss, and Rejection

(11:44) - Curiosity and Respect for Individual Stories

(13:08) - The World’s Response and Responsibility

(14:26) - Changing Perceptions and Fostering Empathy

Link to Treehouse theatre: https://treehousetheatre.org.au/

Cast From the Storm trailer: https://youtu.be/zRF-yDMVYdk

Tedx Video - Missing" Shalah's Story: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MplBF_AYYfM

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From Burundi to Australia: Christian Nduwimana’s Journey of Hope

Fri, 06 Jun 2025 05:00:00 +1100

In this conversation, Christian Nduwimana shares his harrowing journey from Burundi, where he escaped a civil war and political persecution, to becoming a refugee in Australia. He discusses the political dynamics that led to violence in his home country and what led him to speak out against the injustices he witnessed.

Christian shares his complex journey from living in a refugee camp for three years to arriving in Australia. He reflects on the resilience he witnessed among fellow refugees, the hope that kept him going, and the importance of service to others.

Christian also discusses the challenges of adapting to a new life, including language barriers and the emotional toll of leaving his past behind. Ultimately, he emphasizes the significance of pursuing dreams and the power of hope in overcoming adversity.

Chapters:

(00:00) Intro: A Story of Survival and Hope

(02:20) Fleeing Burundi: The Start of Christian's Journey

(06:42) Life Under Civil War and Political Oppression

(13:15) Speaking Up Against Injustice

(18:30) Becoming a Target of the Regime

(24:10) The Escape: Leaving Burundi Without a Bag

(29:50) Surviving the Refugee Camp Years

(36:00) Finding Strength Through Service

(41:20) Arriving in Australia: Relief and Grief

(47:05) Learning English & Rebuilding Dreams

(54:12) Inspiration from Dr. Dinesh Palipana

(59:00) Final Reflections: Community, Identity & Inner Voice

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Navigating the Immigrant Job Market: A Conversation with Kahlil Bagatsing

Fri, 30 May 2025 05:00:00 +1100

In this conversation, Khalil Bagatsing shares his journey from working in his family's business in the Philippines to helping immigrants find skill-aligned jobs in the US. He discusses the challenges immigrants face in the job market, including the importance of customizing resumes, recognizing transferable skills, and overcoming credential recognition issues.

Khalil emphasizes the significance of community support, resilience against rejection, and the power of storytelling in job applications. He introduces the PAR method for structuring responses and discusses the significance of preparation and practice.

In this episode, Kahlil encourages job seekers to view their unique experiences as strength, to reframe setbacks as integral parts of a broader journey, and to seek out companies that value diversity and inclusion.

Chapters:

(00:00) Introduction to the podcast & Kahlil Bagatsing

(01:20) Kahlil’s immigration story and early influences

(04:00) Leaving the family business to find purpose

(06:30) Rebuilding life: health, love, and self-worth

(08:30) Discovering a passion for service & coaching

(09:50) Why skilled immigrants struggle to find work

(12:00) Resume mistakes & how to tailor your story

(14:00) Transferable skills: Making past jobs relevant

(17:30) Handling rejection and staying motivated

(23:00) Turning perceived disadvantages into strengths

(28:00) Storytelling & confidence in job interviews

(35:00) Final reflections, resources & message to migrants

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Navigating Identity and Mental Health: A conversation with Niharika Hiremath

Fri, 23 May 2025 05:00:00 +1100

In this insightful episode, Niharika Hiremath OAM, a first-generation immigrant and mental health professional, joins the podcast to share her unique perspective on growing up in Australia after leaving India at a young age.

Niharika discusses her lived experiences as a third culture kid, the challenges and conflicts of navigating multiple identities, and her openness about mental health struggles. She emphasizes the importance of cultural humility, self-awareness, and the intricate connection between identity and mental well-being. Niharika provides professional insights into intentional peer support and underscores the need for inclusive and culturally responsive mental health services in Australia.

This episode is filled with valuable advice for both mental health professionals and individuals from multicultural backgrounds.

Chapters:

(00:00) Introduction to the Podcast

(00:33) Meet Niharika Hiremath

(01:26) Niharika’s Early Life in India

(02:53) Migrating to New Zealand and Australia

(04:46) Growing Up as a Third Culture Kid

(06:34) Identity Conflicts and Emotional Expression

(08:21) Sharing Mental Health Struggles

(11:16) Intersectionality and Mental Health

(18:36) Creating Inclusive Mental Health Services

(25:20) Cultural Humility in Practice

(30:15) Introduction to Intentional Peer Support (IPS)

(34:07) Niharika’s Purpose and Advice to Migrants

(46:09) Final Reflections and Recommendations

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The Power of Perspective and Gratitude: Dinesh’s Path to Making a Difference

Fri, 16 May 2025 05:00:00 +1100

In this episode, the host interviews Dinesh Palipana, an extraordinary individual who has achieved remarkable success as a doctor, lawyer, researcher, and disability advocate.

Dinesh shares his life story, starting from his childhood in war-torn Sri Lanka, the challenges he faced after moving to Australia, and how those experiences shaped his outlook on life. He also discusses his transition from studying law to medicine, the life-altering car accident that left him with quadriplegia, and the profound resilience and perspective that helped him overcome this adversity.

Throughout the conversation, Dinesh reflects on the importance of empathy, the influence of his mother, and the impermanence of life, offering valuable insights and inspiration to listeners.

Books Dinesh recommends:

Movie Dinesh recommends:

Seven Years in Tibet, directed by Jean-Jacques Annaud

Chapters:

(00:00) – Welcome & Introduction to Dinesh Palipana

(01:38) – Dinesh’s Early Life in War-Torn Sri Lanka

(04:47) – Why Dinesh’s Family Migrated to Australia

(06:43) – First Impressions of Australia

(10:01) – Adapting to Australian Life & Identity

(13:27) – Cultural Tensions Within the Family

(17:14) – Struggles with Mental Health in Early Adulthood

(20:57) – Finding Purpose Through Medicine

(22:07) – The Car Accident That Changed Everything

(28:00) – Resilience, Gratitude & Reframing Adversity

(33:28) – Being a Doctor With Empathy & Purpose

(36:53) – Stoicism, Impermanence & Final Reflections

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From Boat Escape to Refugee Advocate: Mahshid Babzartabi’s Journey to Reclaiming her Next Chapter

Fri, 09 May 2025 05:00:00 +1100

In this episode, we explore the harrowing and inspirational journey of Mahshid Babzartabi, a refugee who fled Iran at age 52, as she was unable to endure the constraints of a society that silenced her voice.

Confronted with limited legal options for safe emigration, she ultimately embarked on a perilous boat journey to Australia. Despite facing immense hardships, she survived and spent 45 days in an immigration detention centre where she used her language skills to help others in similar situations.

Her story highlights her resilience and continuous advocacy for asylum seekers, enriched by her volunteer work and cooking classes that started as a way to integrate into the community. This heartfelt narrative provides an enlightening perspective on the struggles and triumphs faced by refugees, emphasizing the importance of community support and the human spirit's capacity to endure.

Contact Mashid to order her book:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mahshidtaste/

Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1424779064486993/

Chapters:

(00:00) - Welcome & Introduction

(01:28) - Life in Iran Before the Escape

(03:39) - Why Mashid Fled Iran

(06:30) - Journey by Boat to Australia

(08:42) - Detention & Helping Other Refugees

(10:32) - Building Community & Founding Support Networks

(13:24) - Cooking, Advocacy & Creating Belonging

(15:07) - Culture Clash & Identity in a New Country

(17:31) - Searching for Home & Living in Between

(21:06) - Fear, Resilience & Life Lessons

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From Sri Lanka to Australia: Jetha Devapura’s Journey of Resilience, Philanthropy, and Advocacy

Fri, 02 May 2025 05:00:00 +1100

In this episode, Emma has a heartfelt conversation with Jetha Devapura, an inspiring CEO and philanthropist who immigrated from Sri Lanka to Australia at the age of 12.

Together, they discuss Jetha’s memories of his childhood in Colombo and his transition to life in Australia as a teenager. Jetha shares his academic struggles and eventual success, highlighting the impact of environment on personal growth. He recounts a pivotal moment in his life following his diagnosis of OCD, and the development of his three life virtues: courage, compassion, and commitment.

Jetha discusses his philanthropic endeavours, including building a 194-bed cancer transit home and initiating a Lifeline centre in Sri Lanka, significantly impacting mental health and suicide rates. He also introduces his “Let’s Talk” program aimed at fostering psychological safety and resilience in schools. Their conversation converges on the importance of authenticity, resilience, and the inner journey of self-worth. Jetha's story is a testament to making meaningful change and creating a better community both locally and globally.

Follow Jetha's work:

Website: https://letstalkprogram.org

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jetha-devapura-576a2a6/

Chapters:

(00:00) – Introduction to Jetha Devapura

(02:01) – Childhood Memories in Sri Lanka

(03:38) – Migration Journey & Family Sacrifices

(06:10) – School Struggles and Turning Point

(10:39) – OCD Diagnosis and Path to Healing

(13:59) – Building Sri Lanka’s Largest Cancer Transit Home

(16:02) – Launching Lifeline Sri Lanka

(19:39) – Creating the Let’s Talk Program

(22:58) – Psychological Safety & Authenticity

(35:32) – Final Reflections on Self-Worth and Belonging

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Multiple Migrations: Laura Gutierrez’s Search for a Place to Call Home

Fri, 25 Apr 2025 05:00:00 +1100

In this episode, Laura Gutierrez shares her experience as an immigrant having migrated multiple times from Colombia to the US, from the US to New Zealand, and from New Zealand to Australia. She discusses her motivations for leaving her country of origin, including a desire to explore other cultures and escape certain aspects of her own culture.

Laura reflects on the challenges and rewards of starting over in different countries, the importance of perseverance, embracing vulnerability, and cultivating authentic connections. She also shares deep insights into what it means to truly find a place to call home.

Ultimately, Laura encourages fellow immigrants to embrace their own journeys and be proud of what it takes to migrate and start anew.

Follow Laura's work:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauragutierrezpinillos/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fluenteo?igsh=OW5sbTFudng2OTF2

Chapters:

(00:00) – Introduction to the Podcast & Guest

(01:33) – Laura's First Migration Dream at 15

(04:27) – Moving to the U.S. for an Internship

(06:17) – Cultural Tensions & Family Influence

(07:50) – Life in the U.S.: Freedom & Growth

(11:11) – Transition to New Zealand & Australia

(17:21) – Struggles Settling in Australia

(20:46) – Longing for Home & Family

(26:59) – Redefining Home & Belonging

(38:08) – Advice & Final Reflections on Migration

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From McDonald’s to Leadership: Yohana Jury’s Immigrant Journey

Fri, 18 Apr 2025 05:00:00 +1100

Yohana Jury, an Australia-based immigrant from Indonesia, shares her story and insights. She grew up in a small town in Indonesia and moved to Australia on a scholarship to pursue a master's degree in her desired field of study. While there, she met the man who would later become her husband, which led her to stay in the country to start a family.

Throughout the conversation, Yohana opens up about the difficulties she faced in finding a job that aligns with her skills. Despite holding local credentials and professional experience from overseas, she initially had to work at McDonald's to gain her first Australian work experience. Today, she has achieved her dream career, but her journey required immense effort and perseverance.

Yohana offers practical insights for other immigrants navigating their integration journey. She emphasizes the importance of finding a supportive community, cultivating self-belief, and persevering during difficult times. Ultimately, she encourages migrants to work hard and take pride in their efforts, even if it means starting at a lower level.

To connect with Yohana: https://www.linkedin.com/in/yohanajury/

Chapters:

(00:00) - Welcome and introduction to Johana Jury

(02:26) - Growing up in Yogyakarta, Indonesia

(04:02) - Early teaching career and daily life differences

(06:08) - Earning a scholarship and moving to Australia

(07:24) - Culture shock and adjusting to the Australian accent

(10:36) - University experience and navigating language barriers

(13:32) - The struggle to find work after graduation

(15:00) - Starting from scratch with a job at McDonald's

(18:01) - Lessons in resilience and helping other migrants

(20:16) - Building confidence and navigating identity

(28:27) - Advice on belonging, community, and making Australia home

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From Conflict to Embracing Change and Freedom: The Immigrant Journey of Steve Khouw

Fri, 11 Apr 2025 05:00:00 +1100

This podcast episode dives into the life story of an Indonesian-born immigrant living in Australia. Steve shares his vivid childhood memories of political conflict and racial discrimination in 1960s Indonesia, the hasty and perilous departure of his family, and their subsequent immigration to Australia.

Steve reflects on the cultural shock of adapting to a new school environment, the hardships of financial instability, and the rigorous efforts his parents made to provide a stable life. The guest discusses the numerous jobs he had to undertake, including working as a food delivery rider, and his advocacy for migrant workers' rights.

Steve shares insights on dealing with racism, the importance of embracing cultural values while navigating new societies, and the vital role that hope and resilience play in overcoming life's challenges. Throughout the conversation, themes of gratitude, perseverance, and the impact of migrant communities on Australia are deeply explored.

Contact Steeve:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/steve-khouw-515246/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sneaky.stevey/

Chapters:

(00:00) Welcome and introduction to Steeve Khouw

(01:55) Childhood in Indonesia and early persecution

(04:03) Fleeing the country and finding safety in Australia

(06:04) Starting over: housing, work, and language barriers

(09:41) School experiences and facing racism

(13:08) Building resilience and advocating for migrants

(18:01) Life as a food delivery rider and gig economy insights

(22:33) Empathy, connection, and cultural understanding

(25:40) Identity, reinvention, and embracing change

(28:36) Final reflections on hope, belonging, and advocacy

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This podcast brought to you in partnership with Kintsugi Heroes. To find out more, head to kintsugiheroes.com.au.

Reframing Migration: Katrina James’s Strategies to Support Migrants Through Cultural Transitions

Fri, 04 Apr 2025 05:00:00 +1100

In this first episode, Emma interviews Katrina James, a registered counsellor who helps migrant professionals thrive in Australia.

Katrina shares her professional insights into the complexities of cultural adaptation in the workplace, including during significant life transitions such as career shifts or retirement. She highlights the importance of acknowledging the systemic barriers that migrants face in Australia and discusses how they can reframe unhelpful beliefs without having their experiences of racism and employment discrimination dismissed.

The conversation also touches on the economic contributions of migrants, and the need to challenge prevalent misconceptions. Throughout the episode, Katrina underscores the importance of self-acceptance and resilience in navigating the migrant experience, offering valuable insights for both migrants and the broader Australian community.

Contact Katrina James

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katrina-james-reframe/

Website: https://www.reframecounselling.com.au/

Chapters

(00:15)Meet Katrina James: Migration Therapist

(01:54)Navigating Cultural Workplace Differences

(05:33)Migration's Non-Linear Journey

(09:04)The Challenge of Sharing Migrant Struggles

(13:21)Reframing Perceptions vs. Real Discrimination

(18:31)Building Confidence in Your Migrant Identity

(22:45)Finding Focus Through Life's Contrasts

(35:10)What Does Being Australian Really Mean?

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If our guest's story resonated with you, please like, follow and rate the podcast – that would make a massive difference to the production of the show.

I was your host Emma Bellamy, and I can’t wait to bring you on another journey From There to Here!

This podcast brought to you in partnership with Kintsugi Heroes. To find out more, head to kintsugiheroes.com.au.

Welcome to From There To Here

Sun, 30 Mar 2025 05:00:00 +1100

Hello and welcome to the

podcast, From There to Here – a podcast I created with Kintsugi Heroes.

I’m your host, Emma Bellamy, and

each week, we’ll dive into conversations with people who have the courage to

leave their home country to rebuild a home away from home.