<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><?xml-stylesheet href="https://feeds.captivate.fm/style.xsl" type="text/xsl"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:googleplay="http://www.google.com/schemas/play-podcasts/1.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" xmlns:podcast="https://podcastindex.org/namespace/1.0"><channel><atom:link href="https://feeds.captivate.fm/future-proof-hr-podcast/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><title><![CDATA[Future Proof HR]]></title><podcast:guid>c9f2d01f-3801-51c7-9534-81e5c9a4050a</podcast:guid><lastBuildDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2026 13:45:41 +0000</lastBuildDate><generator>Captivate.fm</generator><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><copyright><![CDATA[Copyright 2026 Thomas Kunjappu]]></copyright><managingEditor>Thomas Kunjappu</managingEditor><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Welcome to the Future Proof HR podcast by Cleary, hosted by Thomas Kunjappu, Cleary's CEO. In this podcast, we dive into the latest innovations in HR, exploring how AI and automation are transforming people operations.

Thomas regularly shares his insights on the future of work, while also bringing in thought leaders who are pushing the boundaries of AI in HR to offer fresh perspectives on the challenges and opportunities ahead.

Whether you're an HR leader aiming to optimize your operations or simply curious about how technology is reshaping the workplace, Future Proof HR is your go-to resource for actionable insights and emerging trends in HR technology.]]></itunes:summary><image><url>https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png</url><title>Future Proof HR</title><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link></image><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><itunes:owner><itunes:name>Thomas Kunjappu</itunes:name></itunes:owner><itunes:author>Thomas Kunjappu</itunes:author><description>Welcome to the Future Proof HR podcast by Cleary, hosted by Thomas Kunjappu, Cleary&apos;s CEO. In this podcast, we dive into the latest innovations in HR, exploring how AI and automation are transforming people operations.

Thomas regularly shares his insights on the future of work, while also bringing in thought leaders who are pushing the boundaries of AI in HR to offer fresh perspectives on the challenges and opportunities ahead.

Whether you&apos;re an HR leader aiming to optimize your operations or simply curious about how technology is reshaping the workplace, Future Proof HR is your go-to resource for actionable insights and emerging trends in HR technology.</description><link>https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/</link><atom:link href="https://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com" rel="hub"/><itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[FutureProofHR]]></itunes:subtitle><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:type>episodic</itunes:type><itunes:category text="Business"></itunes:category><itunes:category text="Business"><itunes:category text="Careers"/></itunes:category><itunes:category text="Business"><itunes:category text="Management"/></itunes:category><podcast:locked>no</podcast:locked><podcast:medium>podcast</podcast:medium><item><title>How AI Is Freeing HR to Be More Strategic - Live at Transform 2026</title><itunes:title>How AI Is Freeing HR to Be More Strategic - Live at Transform 2026</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this special live episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, recorded on the floor at Transform 2026 in Las Vegas, Thomas Kunjappu sat down with Laura Brittingham, SVP of People at <u><a href="https://www.prove.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Prove</a></u>, for a candid conversation about what AI actually looks like in practice for a scaling HR team and what it means for the function's strategic future.</p><p>Prove is a leading provider of identity verification and authentication solutions, trusted by 19 of the top 20 US banks and 1,500 top brands globally. Laura joined less than a year ago with no background in identity, and she's been using that fresh perspective to rethink how HR can drive clarity, speed, and scale across the business.</p><p>They got into how Laura is using AI to compress a months-long org design effort into seconds, why her mission this year is to make every employee an expert on Prove's products and industry, and why HR leaders who lean into building with agentic tools will define what the function looks like next.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>Using AI to build a company-wide remit directory and bring clarity to 200 unique job titles</li><li>Why faster processing opens up space for strategic thinking, not just task completion</li><li>The case for AI-powered L&amp;D content to make every employee a product and industry expert</li><li>Why the answer to "replace headcount with AI" is to 10x impact instead</li><li>HR is a strategic arm of the business, not just a compliance and payroll function</li><li>What it means to turn HR teams into builders using agentic tools</li></ul><br/><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ul><li><u><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary's AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></u></li><li><u><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></u></li><li>Connect with<u><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/laura-rottingen/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Laura Brittingham on LinkedIn</a></u></li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this special live episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, recorded on the floor at Transform 2026 in Las Vegas, Thomas Kunjappu sat down with Laura Brittingham, SVP of People at <u><a href="https://www.prove.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Prove</a></u>, for a candid conversation about what AI actually looks like in practice for a scaling HR team and what it means for the function's strategic future.</p><p>Prove is a leading provider of identity verification and authentication solutions, trusted by 19 of the top 20 US banks and 1,500 top brands globally. Laura joined less than a year ago with no background in identity, and she's been using that fresh perspective to rethink how HR can drive clarity, speed, and scale across the business.</p><p>They got into how Laura is using AI to compress a months-long org design effort into seconds, why her mission this year is to make every employee an expert on Prove's products and industry, and why HR leaders who lean into building with agentic tools will define what the function looks like next.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>Using AI to build a company-wide remit directory and bring clarity to 200 unique job titles</li><li>Why faster processing opens up space for strategic thinking, not just task completion</li><li>The case for AI-powered L&amp;D content to make every employee a product and industry expert</li><li>Why the answer to "replace headcount with AI" is to 10x impact instead</li><li>HR is a strategic arm of the business, not just a compliance and payroll function</li><li>What it means to turn HR teams into builders using agentic tools</li></ul><br/><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ul><li><u><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary's AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></u></li><li><u><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></u></li><li>Connect with<u><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/laura-rottingen/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Laura Brittingham on LinkedIn</a></u></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">2f5564c5-8439-4545-ba66-caca844e8485</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2026 06:40:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/2f5564c5-8439-4545-ba66-caca844e8485.mp3" length="15696079" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>13:05</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/7ce48178-7e1b-4ca0-820f-f0d85d788980/transcript.json" type="application/json"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/7ce48178-7e1b-4ca0-820f-f0d85d788980/transcript.srt" type="application/srt" rel="captions"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/7ce48178-7e1b-4ca0-820f-f0d85d788980/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>HR at the Center of AI Transformation - Live at Transform 2026</title><itunes:title>HR at the Center of AI Transformation - Live at Transform 2026</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this special live episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, recorded on the floor at Transform 2026 in Las Vegas, Thomas Kunjappu sat down with Jennifer Erfurth, Chief People Officer at <u><a href="https://www.opswat.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">OPSWAT</a></u>, for a fast-moving conversation about what it actually looks like to lead AI adoption across a global, highly technical workforce.</p><p>OPSWAT is a $200 million cybersecurity company with 1,200 employees across the globe, protecting critical infrastructure like nuclear plants and water treatment facilities. With over 500 engineers on staff, Jennifer was tapped directly by her CEO to drive the company's AI adoption initiative, starting with the engineering organization.</p><p>They got into why AI adoption is fundamentally a change management problem, how Jennifer rallied her globally distributed HR leadership team around a challenge they initially found intimidating, and why the ERP rollout is the right mental model for thinking about AI transformation. Jennifer also made the case that HR is uniquely positioned to lead this work, and shared what it looks like to embed AI into every employee touchpoint, from talent acquisition to org design to performance.</p><p>Topics Discussed:</p><ul><li>Why AI adoption is a change management effort, not a technical one</li><li>How Jennifer brought her global HR leadership team from nervous to bought-in</li><li>Comparing AI transformation to an ERP rollout, and why that framing holds up</li><li>Measuring adoption beyond lines of code, including acceptance rates and sprint velocity</li><li>The emerging model of embedding engineers directly into business functions to build AI-powered tools in-house</li><li>Why HR needs to take a seat at the table on AI strategy, not just support it</li></ul><br/><p>Additional Resources:</p><ul><li><u><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary's AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></u></li><li><u><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></u></li><li>Connect with<u><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/globalhrexecutive/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Jennifer Erfurth on LinkedIn</a></u></li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this special live episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, recorded on the floor at Transform 2026 in Las Vegas, Thomas Kunjappu sat down with Jennifer Erfurth, Chief People Officer at <u><a href="https://www.opswat.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">OPSWAT</a></u>, for a fast-moving conversation about what it actually looks like to lead AI adoption across a global, highly technical workforce.</p><p>OPSWAT is a $200 million cybersecurity company with 1,200 employees across the globe, protecting critical infrastructure like nuclear plants and water treatment facilities. With over 500 engineers on staff, Jennifer was tapped directly by her CEO to drive the company's AI adoption initiative, starting with the engineering organization.</p><p>They got into why AI adoption is fundamentally a change management problem, how Jennifer rallied her globally distributed HR leadership team around a challenge they initially found intimidating, and why the ERP rollout is the right mental model for thinking about AI transformation. Jennifer also made the case that HR is uniquely positioned to lead this work, and shared what it looks like to embed AI into every employee touchpoint, from talent acquisition to org design to performance.</p><p>Topics Discussed:</p><ul><li>Why AI adoption is a change management effort, not a technical one</li><li>How Jennifer brought her global HR leadership team from nervous to bought-in</li><li>Comparing AI transformation to an ERP rollout, and why that framing holds up</li><li>Measuring adoption beyond lines of code, including acceptance rates and sprint velocity</li><li>The emerging model of embedding engineers directly into business functions to build AI-powered tools in-house</li><li>Why HR needs to take a seat at the table on AI strategy, not just support it</li></ul><br/><p>Additional Resources:</p><ul><li><u><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary's AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></u></li><li><u><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></u></li><li>Connect with<u><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/globalhrexecutive/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Jennifer Erfurth on LinkedIn</a></u></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">2aee5170-fea4-4ca9-bee1-cce7ef93c7a0</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2026 09:35:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/2aee5170-fea4-4ca9-bee1-cce7ef93c7a0.mp3" length="14113058" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>11:46</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/dbd653eb-f944-48e4-90d9-a013ab54dfee/transcript.json" type="application/json"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/dbd653eb-f944-48e4-90d9-a013ab54dfee/transcript.srt" type="application/srt" rel="captions"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/dbd653eb-f944-48e4-90d9-a013ab54dfee/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>AI Governance, Guardrails, and Risk - Live at Transform 2026</title><itunes:title>AI Governance, Guardrails, and Risk - Live at Transform 2026</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this special live episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, recorded on the floor at Transform 2026 in Las Vegas, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Shawn McIntire, General Counsel at<u><a href="https://hellopebl.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Pebl</a></u>, for a quick but packed conversation about what AI governance actually looks like in practice at a global EOR company.</p><p>Pebl provides employment outsourcing solutions that allow companies to hire talent internationally without a legal entity in-country, giving businesses a faster path to global expansion. As General Counsel, Shawn has had to think carefully about how AI fits into the company's existing risk framework and how to build a culture where employees feel comfortable experimenting without flying blind.</p><p>They get into why GDPR is the right lens for thinking about AI governance, why keeping your policy short and jargon-free matters more than covering every edge case, and where HR teams are most exposed to AI-related liability today. Shawn also makes the case that the answer to "should AI be used for this?" is almost never no, and explains why every employee should be thinking about how to work themselves out of their current job.</p><p>A candid, grounded conversation straight from one of HR's biggest stages.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>Why GDPR is a useful framework for thinking through AI governance</li><li>Fitting AI risk into your company's existing risk profile, not the other way around</li><li>Keeping AI policy short, simple, and actually usable</li><li>Where HR teams face the most AI liability risk today (hint: hiring)</li><li>How bias gets amplified when AI is making decisions at scale</li><li>The case for always iterating and never putting a lid on AI exploration</li></ul><br/><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ul><li><u><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary's AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></u></li><li><u><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></u></li><li>Connect with<u><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/shawn-mcintire-35777213/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Shawn McIntire on LinkedIn</a></u></li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this special live episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, recorded on the floor at Transform 2026 in Las Vegas, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Shawn McIntire, General Counsel at<u><a href="https://hellopebl.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Pebl</a></u>, for a quick but packed conversation about what AI governance actually looks like in practice at a global EOR company.</p><p>Pebl provides employment outsourcing solutions that allow companies to hire talent internationally without a legal entity in-country, giving businesses a faster path to global expansion. As General Counsel, Shawn has had to think carefully about how AI fits into the company's existing risk framework and how to build a culture where employees feel comfortable experimenting without flying blind.</p><p>They get into why GDPR is the right lens for thinking about AI governance, why keeping your policy short and jargon-free matters more than covering every edge case, and where HR teams are most exposed to AI-related liability today. Shawn also makes the case that the answer to "should AI be used for this?" is almost never no, and explains why every employee should be thinking about how to work themselves out of their current job.</p><p>A candid, grounded conversation straight from one of HR's biggest stages.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>Why GDPR is a useful framework for thinking through AI governance</li><li>Fitting AI risk into your company's existing risk profile, not the other way around</li><li>Keeping AI policy short, simple, and actually usable</li><li>Where HR teams face the most AI liability risk today (hint: hiring)</li><li>How bias gets amplified when AI is making decisions at scale</li><li>The case for always iterating and never putting a lid on AI exploration</li></ul><br/><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ul><li><u><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary's AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></u></li><li><u><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></u></li><li>Connect with<u><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/shawn-mcintire-35777213/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Shawn McIntire on LinkedIn</a></u></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">a650be8d-4d2b-4576-9272-5e8bf1c92b27</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2026 06:25:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/a650be8d-4d2b-4576-9272-5e8bf1c92b27.mp3" length="19946724" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>16:37</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/af83e26a-e5a1-43ca-9002-228bbea850ef/transcript.json" type="application/json"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/af83e26a-e5a1-43ca-9002-228bbea850ef/transcript.srt" type="application/srt" rel="captions"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/af83e26a-e5a1-43ca-9002-228bbea850ef/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>Making Work Easier with AI - Live at Transform 2026</title><itunes:title>Making Work Easier with AI - Live at Transform 2026</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this special live episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, recorded on the floor at Transform 2026 in Las Vegas, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Conor Sweeney, VP of People at <u><a href="http://formhealth.co/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Form Health</a></u>, for a quick but packed conversation about what AI in HR actually looks like in practice at a fast-growing telehealth company.</p><p>Form Health is the national leader in science-backed obesity care management and cardiometabolic health, operating across 30+ states in the United States, and is a company scaling fast with two distinct employee populations: clinical and corporate. Conor and his team have had to think creatively about how to make it easier for people to do their jobs every day.</p><p>They get into what it really looks like to implement agentic AI for knowledge management, the unglamorous work of keeping that content accurate enough to actually be useful, and what's next for AI in talent acquisition. Conor also shares what he's taking away from Transform: HR leaders aren't just adopting AI anymore, they're owning it.</p><p>A candid, grounded conversation straight from one of HR's biggest stages.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>Using agentic AI for knowledge management and why Guru has worked for Form Health</li><li>The real challenge of content accuracy when feeding an AI system</li><li>How AI can help TA teams spend less time screening and more time advising</li><li>HR's growing ownership of AI strategy across industries</li><li>Moving from reactive to proactive in compliance and HR ops</li></ul><br/><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ul><li><u><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary's AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></u></li><li><u><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></u></li><li>Connect with<u><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/conorsweeney207/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Conor Sweeney on LinkedIn</a></u></li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this special live episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, recorded on the floor at Transform 2026 in Las Vegas, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Conor Sweeney, VP of People at <u><a href="http://formhealth.co/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Form Health</a></u>, for a quick but packed conversation about what AI in HR actually looks like in practice at a fast-growing telehealth company.</p><p>Form Health is the national leader in science-backed obesity care management and cardiometabolic health, operating across 30+ states in the United States, and is a company scaling fast with two distinct employee populations: clinical and corporate. Conor and his team have had to think creatively about how to make it easier for people to do their jobs every day.</p><p>They get into what it really looks like to implement agentic AI for knowledge management, the unglamorous work of keeping that content accurate enough to actually be useful, and what's next for AI in talent acquisition. Conor also shares what he's taking away from Transform: HR leaders aren't just adopting AI anymore, they're owning it.</p><p>A candid, grounded conversation straight from one of HR's biggest stages.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>Using agentic AI for knowledge management and why Guru has worked for Form Health</li><li>The real challenge of content accuracy when feeding an AI system</li><li>How AI can help TA teams spend less time screening and more time advising</li><li>HR's growing ownership of AI strategy across industries</li><li>Moving from reactive to proactive in compliance and HR ops</li></ul><br/><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ul><li><u><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary's AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></u></li><li><u><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></u></li><li>Connect with<u><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/conorsweeney207/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Conor Sweeney on LinkedIn</a></u></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">cda75e9a-6754-4168-8983-87f9892d08cb</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2026 10:55:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/cda75e9a-6754-4168-8983-87f9892d08cb.mp3" length="14532585" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>12:07</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/41cf346f-33dd-4392-9815-2e5358bb2938/transcript.json" type="application/json"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/41cf346f-33dd-4392-9815-2e5358bb2938/transcript.srt" type="application/srt" rel="captions"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/41cf346f-33dd-4392-9815-2e5358bb2938/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>From Fear to Curiosity: Leading a People-First AI Transformation</title><itunes:title>From Fear to Curiosity: Leading a People-First AI Transformation</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Jim Kanichirayil sits down with Katee Van Horn, Chief People Officer at <a href="https://www.webpros.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Web Pros</a>, to explore what it actually looks like to lead a people-first transformation inside a fast-moving, globally distributed organization and what happens when you layer AI on top of it.</p><p>With team members across more than 51 countries and a growth strategy built heavily on acquisitions, Web Pros has had to solve some of the hardest problems in modern HR: aligning cultures, integrating teams, building consistent onboarding at scale, and maintaining a shared identity across vastly different ways of working. Katee brings a grounded, operational perspective on how to navigate all of that without losing sight of the people in the middle of it.</p><p>Together, they dig into what it really means to shift the narrative around AI from fear to curiosity, why reskilling existing talent almost always beats hiring from outside, and how the SDET and QA role at Web Pros became a real-time case study in workforce evolution. Katee also makes a compelling case for why listening, not just as a practice, but as a discipline that drives action, is the foundation of any successful transformation effort.</p><p>This episode is a candid, practical look at what it takes to lead transformation the right way, where people aren't an afterthought to the strategy. They are the strategy.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>Aligning culture and ways of working across acquisitions and global teams</li><li>Building scalable onboarding and just-in-time learning in a remote-first environment</li><li>How AI is reshaping the SDET and QA function in real time</li><li>Reskilling over replacing: why developing existing talent is the smarter long-term play</li><li>Human in the loop vs. human in the lead and when each applies</li><li>Why listening exercises only work when they drive action</li><li>Applying agile thinking to transformation: iterating instead of overhauling</li><li>The five principles for executing a people-first AI transformation</li></ul><br/><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary's AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/katee-van-horn/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Katee Van Horn on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Jim Kanichirayil sits down with Katee Van Horn, Chief People Officer at <a href="https://www.webpros.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Web Pros</a>, to explore what it actually looks like to lead a people-first transformation inside a fast-moving, globally distributed organization and what happens when you layer AI on top of it.</p><p>With team members across more than 51 countries and a growth strategy built heavily on acquisitions, Web Pros has had to solve some of the hardest problems in modern HR: aligning cultures, integrating teams, building consistent onboarding at scale, and maintaining a shared identity across vastly different ways of working. Katee brings a grounded, operational perspective on how to navigate all of that without losing sight of the people in the middle of it.</p><p>Together, they dig into what it really means to shift the narrative around AI from fear to curiosity, why reskilling existing talent almost always beats hiring from outside, and how the SDET and QA role at Web Pros became a real-time case study in workforce evolution. Katee also makes a compelling case for why listening, not just as a practice, but as a discipline that drives action, is the foundation of any successful transformation effort.</p><p>This episode is a candid, practical look at what it takes to lead transformation the right way, where people aren't an afterthought to the strategy. They are the strategy.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>Aligning culture and ways of working across acquisitions and global teams</li><li>Building scalable onboarding and just-in-time learning in a remote-first environment</li><li>How AI is reshaping the SDET and QA function in real time</li><li>Reskilling over replacing: why developing existing talent is the smarter long-term play</li><li>Human in the loop vs. human in the lead and when each applies</li><li>Why listening exercises only work when they drive action</li><li>Applying agile thinking to transformation: iterating instead of overhauling</li><li>The five principles for executing a people-first AI transformation</li></ul><br/><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary's AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/katee-van-horn/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Katee Van Horn on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5b48e3ba-ba77-4aa6-ae00-6410ff5dc1a6</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2026 14:15:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/5b48e3ba-ba77-4aa6-ae00-6410ff5dc1a6.mp3" length="52505744" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>43:45</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>60</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>60</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/eab3306d-5b3e-4ef8-81b6-e06a55d0b996/transcript.json" type="application/json"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/eab3306d-5b3e-4ef8-81b6-e06a55d0b996/transcript.srt" type="application/srt" rel="captions"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/eab3306d-5b3e-4ef8-81b6-e06a55d0b996/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>Built to Adapt: HR Across Generations, Geographies, and the AI Era</title><itunes:title>Built to Adapt: HR Across Generations, Geographies, and the AI Era</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Angelika Ivanov-Jackson, founder of IGR, a globally focused HR and recruitment agency, to explore what it really means to build HR infrastructure across borders and why the HR professionals who will thrive in the age of AI are the ones brave enough to own their value.</p><p>With over a decade of experience spanning the US, EMEA, APAC, MENA, and CIS regions across industries from real estate to finance, e-commerce, AI, and ad tech, Angelika has built HR functions from the ground up more times than most professionals build them once. She brings a rare combination of global compliance expertise, generalist scrappiness, and a deeply human perspective on what it means to lead people across cultures, languages, and time zones.</p><p>Together, they dig into what really changes and what stays exactly the same when you take HR global, why the first hire in any new market should almost always be an HR professional, and how organizations that treat HR as a true strategic partner consistently outgrow the ones that don't. Angelika also shares her candid take on AI in HR, why she's never believed technology will replace the function, and how HR leaders can position themselves as the ones driving AI adoption across their entire organization rather than being disrupted by it.</p><p>She also delivers one of the most energizing calls to action for early-career HR professionals you'll hear — a reminder that the work of repositioning HR from an administrative function to a true business partner has already been done, and now it's time for the next generation to be brave enough to walk through that door.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>How Gen Z is reshaping expectations in the workplace and what older generations can learn from them</li><li>What's universal about HR across every country and what's not</li><li>Why labor law and local compliance are the real variables when going global</li><li>The case for making HR your first hire when entering a new market</li><li>How the HR function has evolved from "hire, fire, and plan the Christmas party" to a strategic business partner</li><li>Why organizations with healthy HR teams grow faster and make fewer costly mistakes</li><li>AI in HR: who has the advantage and how to make sure it's you</li><li>How to set up HR infrastructure from scratch at an early-stage or pre-opening company</li><li>Hiring strategy for new markets: why you start from the top of each department down</li><li>When to ask for your first HR hire and what the pre-opening stage actually demands</li><li>Advice for new HR professionals: be brave, know your value, and bring options A, B, and C</li></ul><br/><p>If you're an HR leader navigating global expansion, building a people function from nothing, or trying to figure out how to stay relevant and future-proof in an AI-driven world, this episode is a grounded, globally informed, and deeply human look at what it takes to lead HR without borders.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ul><li><u><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary's AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></u></li><li><u><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></u></li><li>Connect with<u><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/angelika-iwanow-jackson-26b33089/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Angelika Ivanov-Jackson on LinkedIn</a></u></li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Angelika Ivanov-Jackson, founder of IGR, a globally focused HR and recruitment agency, to explore what it really means to build HR infrastructure across borders and why the HR professionals who will thrive in the age of AI are the ones brave enough to own their value.</p><p>With over a decade of experience spanning the US, EMEA, APAC, MENA, and CIS regions across industries from real estate to finance, e-commerce, AI, and ad tech, Angelika has built HR functions from the ground up more times than most professionals build them once. She brings a rare combination of global compliance expertise, generalist scrappiness, and a deeply human perspective on what it means to lead people across cultures, languages, and time zones.</p><p>Together, they dig into what really changes and what stays exactly the same when you take HR global, why the first hire in any new market should almost always be an HR professional, and how organizations that treat HR as a true strategic partner consistently outgrow the ones that don't. Angelika also shares her candid take on AI in HR, why she's never believed technology will replace the function, and how HR leaders can position themselves as the ones driving AI adoption across their entire organization rather than being disrupted by it.</p><p>She also delivers one of the most energizing calls to action for early-career HR professionals you'll hear — a reminder that the work of repositioning HR from an administrative function to a true business partner has already been done, and now it's time for the next generation to be brave enough to walk through that door.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>How Gen Z is reshaping expectations in the workplace and what older generations can learn from them</li><li>What's universal about HR across every country and what's not</li><li>Why labor law and local compliance are the real variables when going global</li><li>The case for making HR your first hire when entering a new market</li><li>How the HR function has evolved from "hire, fire, and plan the Christmas party" to a strategic business partner</li><li>Why organizations with healthy HR teams grow faster and make fewer costly mistakes</li><li>AI in HR: who has the advantage and how to make sure it's you</li><li>How to set up HR infrastructure from scratch at an early-stage or pre-opening company</li><li>Hiring strategy for new markets: why you start from the top of each department down</li><li>When to ask for your first HR hire and what the pre-opening stage actually demands</li><li>Advice for new HR professionals: be brave, know your value, and bring options A, B, and C</li></ul><br/><p>If you're an HR leader navigating global expansion, building a people function from nothing, or trying to figure out how to stay relevant and future-proof in an AI-driven world, this episode is a grounded, globally informed, and deeply human look at what it takes to lead HR without borders.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ul><li><u><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary's AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></u></li><li><u><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></u></li><li>Connect with<u><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/angelika-iwanow-jackson-26b33089/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Angelika Ivanov-Jackson on LinkedIn</a></u></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">644c8f99-2c6c-44d0-ac36-eef8e325912e</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2026 11:40:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/644c8f99-2c6c-44d0-ac36-eef8e325912e.mp3" length="48188748" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>40:09</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>59</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>59</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/8e830786-82c6-46ef-8bfe-d1a6d5666b6d/transcript.json" type="application/json"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/8e830786-82c6-46ef-8bfe-d1a6d5666b6d/transcript.srt" type="application/srt" rel="captions"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/8e830786-82c6-46ef-8bfe-d1a6d5666b6d/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>Small Team, Big Impact: How to Build and Scale HR from the Ground Up</title><itunes:title>Small Team, Big Impact: How to Build and Scale HR from the Ground Up</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Dorian Rhodes, Human Resources Director at <u><a href="https://www.ba-inc.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barton Associates</a></u>, an architectural engineering firm with locations across Pennsylvania and North Carolina, to explore what it really means to build an HR function from the ground up. In a 60-year-old firm that had never had a formally trained HR leader before him.</p><p>Coming from large global organizations where he led HR across the US, Canada, and Brazil, Dorian made a deliberate leap to a hundred-person company where he became the first HR professional in the firm's history. Eighteen months in, he's already implemented the company's first HRIS, digitized paper-based employee records, redesigned the performance management framework, and built a talent pipeline that starts at the high school level.</p><p>Together, they dig into what it takes to earn executive trust when you're the first HR leader a company has ever had, how to reframe HR from a cost center to a profit center, and why the "fail fast" mindset is the single most important mental shift for HR professionals working in smaller, relationship-driven organizations.</p><p>Dorian also shares how the looming retirement of a 40-year veteran electrical engineer became the catalyst for a formal succession planning approach, why being a business person first and an HR expert second is the real unlock for gaining credibility, and what he believes the lean HR team of the future actually looks like. including when to bring in outside specialists and when to keep it internal.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why Dorian went from tens of thousands of employees to a hundred-person firm and what he found when he got there</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The crawl-walk-run approach to building HR infrastructure from nothing</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>How to make the case for HRIS investment when every dollar counts and finance runs payroll</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Reframing HR as a profit center: practical rhythms for building executive trust</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The "fail fast" mindset and why not everyone agreeing with you is a good sign</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Performance management rollout strategy, including how to get executive sponsorship before you send a single email</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Succession planning in a firm where 40 years of tribal knowledge can walk out the door overnight</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Building a talent pipeline from vo-tech and high school all the way through university career fairs</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The ESOP advantage and how to use it as a recruiting tool with students who have never heard of it</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>What the future-proof small HR team actually looks like and when to bring in a COE on a contract basis</li></ol><br/><p>If you're an HR leader building a function from scratch, navigating a company culture that's never had formal HR before, or trying to prove your value to an executive team that sees HR as overhead, this episode is a grounded and practical look at what it takes to lead people in a company that's been running just fine without you, until now.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary's AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Connect with <u><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/drhodes1/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dorian Rhodes on LinkedIn</a></u></li></ol><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Dorian Rhodes, Human Resources Director at <u><a href="https://www.ba-inc.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barton Associates</a></u>, an architectural engineering firm with locations across Pennsylvania and North Carolina, to explore what it really means to build an HR function from the ground up. In a 60-year-old firm that had never had a formally trained HR leader before him.</p><p>Coming from large global organizations where he led HR across the US, Canada, and Brazil, Dorian made a deliberate leap to a hundred-person company where he became the first HR professional in the firm's history. Eighteen months in, he's already implemented the company's first HRIS, digitized paper-based employee records, redesigned the performance management framework, and built a talent pipeline that starts at the high school level.</p><p>Together, they dig into what it takes to earn executive trust when you're the first HR leader a company has ever had, how to reframe HR from a cost center to a profit center, and why the "fail fast" mindset is the single most important mental shift for HR professionals working in smaller, relationship-driven organizations.</p><p>Dorian also shares how the looming retirement of a 40-year veteran electrical engineer became the catalyst for a formal succession planning approach, why being a business person first and an HR expert second is the real unlock for gaining credibility, and what he believes the lean HR team of the future actually looks like. including when to bring in outside specialists and when to keep it internal.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why Dorian went from tens of thousands of employees to a hundred-person firm and what he found when he got there</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The crawl-walk-run approach to building HR infrastructure from nothing</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>How to make the case for HRIS investment when every dollar counts and finance runs payroll</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Reframing HR as a profit center: practical rhythms for building executive trust</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The "fail fast" mindset and why not everyone agreeing with you is a good sign</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Performance management rollout strategy, including how to get executive sponsorship before you send a single email</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Succession planning in a firm where 40 years of tribal knowledge can walk out the door overnight</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Building a talent pipeline from vo-tech and high school all the way through university career fairs</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The ESOP advantage and how to use it as a recruiting tool with students who have never heard of it</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>What the future-proof small HR team actually looks like and when to bring in a COE on a contract basis</li></ol><br/><p>If you're an HR leader building a function from scratch, navigating a company culture that's never had formal HR before, or trying to prove your value to an executive team that sees HR as overhead, this episode is a grounded and practical look at what it takes to lead people in a company that's been running just fine without you, until now.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary's AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Connect with <u><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/drhodes1/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dorian Rhodes on LinkedIn</a></u></li></ol><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">cd69c23a-ea83-498b-b041-715d6aacfa4a</guid><itunes:image 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type="text/html"/></item><item><title>Scaling with Intention: People, Process, and Tech for Growth</title><itunes:title>Scaling with Intention: People, Process, and Tech for Growth</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Jim Kanichirayil sits down with Kiley Ewing, Chief People Officer at <a href="https://mcguiresponsel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">McGuire Sponsel</a>, a specialty tax consulting firm based out of Indianapolis, Indiana, to explore what it really takes to build an HR function from the ground up while staring down two of the most aggressive goals an organization can set: doubling headcount and tripling revenue by 2030.</p><p>Six months into her role, Kiley isn't just reacting to growth, she's engineering it. With a background in high-performance coaching, neuroscience, and consultative selling, she brings a uniquely systems-oriented and mindset-forward approach to people operations. She shares how she came in and immediately focused on fixing processes before adding people, why she chose Predictive Index as her first tool, and how data-driven hiring helped her build a complementary team rather than a collection of people doing jobs they don't enjoy.</p><p>Together, they dig into how Kiley thinks about the intersection of AI and human judgment in hiring, what it means to evaluate HR technology with the end in mind, and why thinking like a business owner rather than an employee is the single biggest unlock for HR leaders trying to earn credibility and drive real outcomes.</p><p>Kiley also shares how she's already saved the organization $400,000 in her first six months, why she's building for 200 people now while still at 100, and what it means to balance strategic thinking with a collaborative culture that actually wants to slow you down.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why Kiley started with process before people and what that unlocked for hiring</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>How Predictive Index works as a complement to human judgment, not a replacement</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The right way to evaluate and select HR technology for where you're going, not where you are</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Using AI tools like ChatGPT to shortcut vendor research and find the right feature set</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why delegation and complementary strengths are the foundation of a lean, strategic HR team</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The role competency vs. company competency framework in hiring and performance management</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>How to avoid the "guess and check" model in talent acquisition with predictive data</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Workforce planning for 200 people when you're still at 100 and why it matters now</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Thinking like a business owner: how Kiley saved $400K in her first six months</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why you can't fix a bad process by throwing AI or technology at it</li></ol><br/><p>If you're an HR leader navigating aggressive growth goals, building out your tech stack, or trying to stay strategic without losing sight of execution, this episode is a practical and energizing look at what future-ready HR actually looks like in the field.</p><p>Additional Resources:</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary's AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kileyschmitz/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kiley Ewing on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Jim Kanichirayil sits down with Kiley Ewing, Chief People Officer at <a href="https://mcguiresponsel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">McGuire Sponsel</a>, a specialty tax consulting firm based out of Indianapolis, Indiana, to explore what it really takes to build an HR function from the ground up while staring down two of the most aggressive goals an organization can set: doubling headcount and tripling revenue by 2030.</p><p>Six months into her role, Kiley isn't just reacting to growth, she's engineering it. With a background in high-performance coaching, neuroscience, and consultative selling, she brings a uniquely systems-oriented and mindset-forward approach to people operations. She shares how she came in and immediately focused on fixing processes before adding people, why she chose Predictive Index as her first tool, and how data-driven hiring helped her build a complementary team rather than a collection of people doing jobs they don't enjoy.</p><p>Together, they dig into how Kiley thinks about the intersection of AI and human judgment in hiring, what it means to evaluate HR technology with the end in mind, and why thinking like a business owner rather than an employee is the single biggest unlock for HR leaders trying to earn credibility and drive real outcomes.</p><p>Kiley also shares how she's already saved the organization $400,000 in her first six months, why she's building for 200 people now while still at 100, and what it means to balance strategic thinking with a collaborative culture that actually wants to slow you down.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why Kiley started with process before people and what that unlocked for hiring</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>How Predictive Index works as a complement to human judgment, not a replacement</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The right way to evaluate and select HR technology for where you're going, not where you are</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Using AI tools like ChatGPT to shortcut vendor research and find the right feature set</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why delegation and complementary strengths are the foundation of a lean, strategic HR team</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The role competency vs. company competency framework in hiring and performance management</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>How to avoid the "guess and check" model in talent acquisition with predictive data</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Workforce planning for 200 people when you're still at 100 and why it matters now</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Thinking like a business owner: how Kiley saved $400K in her first six months</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why you can't fix a bad process by throwing AI or technology at it</li></ol><br/><p>If you're an HR leader navigating aggressive growth goals, building out your tech stack, or trying to stay strategic without losing sight of execution, this episode is a practical and energizing look at what future-ready HR actually looks like in the field.</p><p>Additional Resources:</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary's AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kileyschmitz/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kiley Ewing on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">240ca265-c550-43f0-a6cc-ecd3aaa21362</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2026 08:10:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/240ca265-c550-43f0-a6cc-ecd3aaa21362.mp3" length="51559066" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>42:58</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>57</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>57</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/722d8356-15ee-4ae4-b515-4fb609606068/transcript.json" type="application/json"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/722d8356-15ee-4ae4-b515-4fb609606068/transcript.srt" type="application/srt" rel="captions"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/722d8356-15ee-4ae4-b515-4fb609606068/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>Future-Proof from Day One: Vulnerability, Vision, and Leading HR Through Transformation</title><itunes:title>Future-Proof from Day One: Vulnerability, Vision, and Leading HR Through Transformation</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu, CEO of Cleary, sits down with Zane Zumbahlen, Chief People Officer at Wedgewood, to explore what it really means to lead HR through transformation from day one and why vulnerability might be the most underrated strategic tool a leader has.</p><p>With a career spanning technology, finance, and healthcare, Zane brings a cross-functional perspective on how to build trust fast, dream boldly, and still get the basics done. He shares how stepping into a company facing real business headwinds led him to experiment with radical authenticity and how that one decision changed everything about how his team showed up.</p><p>Together, they explore how Zane used AI as a thought partner to build a 2028 HR vision, what happened when he brought his team together to dream and got derailed by reality, and why the best thing he did was give his team a "get out of jail free card" to push back on the business.</p><p>Zane also shares why vulnerability is a learnable skill, not a personality trait and how practicing it, like a muscle, can accelerate trust, deepen relationships, and make HR teams more effective in ways that no tool or process can replicate.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why Zane opened his very first team meeting with a deeply personal story and what happened next</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>How vulnerability creates speed of trust and why that matters for new HR leaders</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Using ChatGPT as a strategic thought partner to build a 2028 HR vision</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Running a two-day offsite that got productively derailed and why that was the best outcome</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>How to help an overburdened HR team say no strategically and prioritize what actually moves the needle</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why Zane's client is the business, not the leader and what that means in practice</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Handpicking external mentors from different industries for each direct report</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The future of AI in HR: emotional intelligence nudges, HRIS integration, and enabling managers to lead better</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Vulnerability as a skill you can build and how to start practicing it safely</li></ol><br/><p>If you're an HR leader navigating a new role, leading a team through change, or trying to balance the tension between strategic vision and day-to-day execution, this episode offers both a fresh perspective and a practical playbook for leading with courage.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://www.ted.com/talks/jia_jiang_what_i_learned_from_100_days_of_rejection" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jia Jiang's TED Talk: What I learned from 100 days of rejection</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary's AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/zanezumbahlen/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Zane Zumbahlen on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/><p><em>*This conversation with Zane Zumbahlen was recorded in early 2025, shortly after he joined Wedgewood as Chief People Officer.</em></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu, CEO of Cleary, sits down with Zane Zumbahlen, Chief People Officer at Wedgewood, to explore what it really means to lead HR through transformation from day one and why vulnerability might be the most underrated strategic tool a leader has.</p><p>With a career spanning technology, finance, and healthcare, Zane brings a cross-functional perspective on how to build trust fast, dream boldly, and still get the basics done. He shares how stepping into a company facing real business headwinds led him to experiment with radical authenticity and how that one decision changed everything about how his team showed up.</p><p>Together, they explore how Zane used AI as a thought partner to build a 2028 HR vision, what happened when he brought his team together to dream and got derailed by reality, and why the best thing he did was give his team a "get out of jail free card" to push back on the business.</p><p>Zane also shares why vulnerability is a learnable skill, not a personality trait and how practicing it, like a muscle, can accelerate trust, deepen relationships, and make HR teams more effective in ways that no tool or process can replicate.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why Zane opened his very first team meeting with a deeply personal story and what happened next</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>How vulnerability creates speed of trust and why that matters for new HR leaders</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Using ChatGPT as a strategic thought partner to build a 2028 HR vision</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Running a two-day offsite that got productively derailed and why that was the best outcome</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>How to help an overburdened HR team say no strategically and prioritize what actually moves the needle</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why Zane's client is the business, not the leader and what that means in practice</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Handpicking external mentors from different industries for each direct report</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The future of AI in HR: emotional intelligence nudges, HRIS integration, and enabling managers to lead better</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Vulnerability as a skill you can build and how to start practicing it safely</li></ol><br/><p>If you're an HR leader navigating a new role, leading a team through change, or trying to balance the tension between strategic vision and day-to-day execution, this episode offers both a fresh perspective and a practical playbook for leading with courage.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://www.ted.com/talks/jia_jiang_what_i_learned_from_100_days_of_rejection" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jia Jiang's TED Talk: What I learned from 100 days of rejection</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary's AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/zanezumbahlen/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Zane Zumbahlen on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/><p><em>*This conversation with Zane Zumbahlen was recorded in early 2025, shortly after he joined Wedgewood as Chief People Officer.</em></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">2bc5645e-db8e-4855-9bcd-a68f5bbe1b95</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2026 08:15:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/2bc5645e-db8e-4855-9bcd-a68f5bbe1b95.mp3" length="56510315" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>47:06</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>56</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>56</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/c9a572a4-c4fb-4495-a447-43966de06dd6/transcript.json" type="application/json"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/c9a572a4-c4fb-4495-a447-43966de06dd6/transcript.srt" type="application/srt" rel="captions"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/c9a572a4-c4fb-4495-a447-43966de06dd6/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>The New Shape of HR: AI, Shared Services, and the Human Element</title><itunes:title>The New Shape of HR: AI, Shared Services, and the Human Element</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu, CEO of Cleary, sits down with Amy Wang, Head of HR and Payroll Shared Services at <a href="https://www.mbusa.com/en/home" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mercedes-Benz North America</a>, to discuss how HR is changing as AI, shared services, and human leadership increasingly overlap.</p><p>With experience across IT, procurement, operations, and HR, Amy brings a cross-functional perspective on what it takes to build systems that are both scalable and people-centered. She explains why the future of HR depends on connecting people, processes, and technology in more intentional ways.</p><p>Together, they explore where AI can support HR workflows, where human judgment still matters most, and why better design and governance are essential for making these tools useful in practice. They also discuss how shared services is evolving beyond transactional work into a more strategic function focused on capability, data fluency, and cross-functional value.</p><p>Amy also shares why curiosity, continuous learning, and adaptability will be critical for HR leaders who want to stay relevant as work continues to change.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>How Amy’s transition from IT leadership to HR shaped her approach to organizational change</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why the convergence of HR, IT, and shared services is accelerating</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Where AI can support HR workflows and where human judgment must remain central</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The “human-AI-human” model for responsible AI use in HR processes</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why poorly designed AI systems create frustration and how better governance can help</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>How shared services is evolving from transactional processing to capability building</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The role of curiosity and continuous learning in staying relevant as AI reshapes work</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why organizations must create safe environments for experimentation and innovation</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>How HR can act as a translator between strategy, systems, and the employee experience</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Future opportunities for AI in areas like employee relations analysis and pattern detection</li></ol><br/><p>If you’re an HR leader thinking about how AI will affect HR operations, shared services, and the skills required to lead in the future, this episode offers practical insights and a thoughtful perspective on what the next shape of HR could look like.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/amywang168/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amy Wang on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu, CEO of Cleary, sits down with Amy Wang, Head of HR and Payroll Shared Services at <a href="https://www.mbusa.com/en/home" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mercedes-Benz North America</a>, to discuss how HR is changing as AI, shared services, and human leadership increasingly overlap.</p><p>With experience across IT, procurement, operations, and HR, Amy brings a cross-functional perspective on what it takes to build systems that are both scalable and people-centered. She explains why the future of HR depends on connecting people, processes, and technology in more intentional ways.</p><p>Together, they explore where AI can support HR workflows, where human judgment still matters most, and why better design and governance are essential for making these tools useful in practice. They also discuss how shared services is evolving beyond transactional work into a more strategic function focused on capability, data fluency, and cross-functional value.</p><p>Amy also shares why curiosity, continuous learning, and adaptability will be critical for HR leaders who want to stay relevant as work continues to change.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>How Amy’s transition from IT leadership to HR shaped her approach to organizational change</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why the convergence of HR, IT, and shared services is accelerating</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Where AI can support HR workflows and where human judgment must remain central</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The “human-AI-human” model for responsible AI use in HR processes</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why poorly designed AI systems create frustration and how better governance can help</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>How shared services is evolving from transactional processing to capability building</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The role of curiosity and continuous learning in staying relevant as AI reshapes work</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why organizations must create safe environments for experimentation and innovation</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>How HR can act as a translator between strategy, systems, and the employee experience</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Future opportunities for AI in areas like employee relations analysis and pattern detection</li></ol><br/><p>If you’re an HR leader thinking about how AI will affect HR operations, shared services, and the skills required to lead in the future, this episode offers practical insights and a thoughtful perspective on what the next shape of HR could look like.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/amywang168/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amy Wang on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">edc233b6-da4f-413d-8315-1f565d737eca</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2026 14:50:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/edc233b6-da4f-413d-8315-1f565d737eca.mp3" length="42357695" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>35:18</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>55</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>55</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/d8c14ec9-c930-48b8-af3b-01b4df26d359/transcript.json" type="application/json"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/d8c14ec9-c930-48b8-af3b-01b4df26d359/transcript.srt" type="application/srt" rel="captions"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/d8c14ec9-c930-48b8-af3b-01b4df26d359/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>The Plus-Shaped Leader: Leading at the Intersection of Law, Business, and HR</title><itunes:title>The Plus-Shaped Leader: Leading at the Intersection of Law, Business, and HR</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu, CEO of Cleary, sits down with Fernando Garcia,  Chief People and Legal Officer at <a href="https://opta-group.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Opta Group</a> (at the time of recording), to unpack what HR leaders are getting wrong about AI, and what they should be doing instead.</p><p>Fernando brings a rare blend of experience across HR, legal, compliance, and business strategy, and he makes a clear case for why AI will not replace HR, but it will reshape the job. The work that remains, he argues, is the work that matters most: human judgment, context, experience, and the ability to make value-based decisions when the answer is not obvious.</p><p>Together, they explore the practical reality of “shadow AI” already happening inside organizations, why guardrails matter more than hype, and how HR can work with legal as an early strategic partner rather than an emergency hotline once something has already escalated. The conversation also goes deep on the ethical tension of AI-driven hiring and fairness, including how bias can show up on both sides, whether decisions are made by people or machines, and why the “trolley problem” isn’t just a thought experiment anymore.</p><p>This episode is for HR leaders who want to adopt AI responsibly, without parking their judgment at the door, and who want to future-proof their work by leaning harder into the human side of leadership.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>AI will change HR jobs, not eliminate them</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why HR’s value is judgment, context, and the human element</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The “three-legged stool” of business, legal, and people leadership</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>How HR and legal can partner early to prevent risk, not just react to it</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The reality of “shadow AI” and why assuming no one uses AI is the biggest risk</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Practical guardrails: data privacy, PII, sensitive employee info, and due diligence</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Where AI helps today: drafting, surveys, training design, and early recruiting support</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The ethics of AI in recruiting, fairness, and bias on both sides of the argument</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why culture, training, and peer learning matter more than expensive enablement programs</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Skills that will matter most for future-proof HR: curiosity, EQ, relationship-building, and broad capability</li></ol><br/><p>If you’re an HR leader trying to balance innovation with compliance, curious about AI’s real use cases beyond automation, or navigating how to adopt these tools without losing the human element, this episode offers a grounded and thoughtful framework.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/gfernandogarcia/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fernando Garcia on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu, CEO of Cleary, sits down with Fernando Garcia,  Chief People and Legal Officer at <a href="https://opta-group.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Opta Group</a> (at the time of recording), to unpack what HR leaders are getting wrong about AI, and what they should be doing instead.</p><p>Fernando brings a rare blend of experience across HR, legal, compliance, and business strategy, and he makes a clear case for why AI will not replace HR, but it will reshape the job. The work that remains, he argues, is the work that matters most: human judgment, context, experience, and the ability to make value-based decisions when the answer is not obvious.</p><p>Together, they explore the practical reality of “shadow AI” already happening inside organizations, why guardrails matter more than hype, and how HR can work with legal as an early strategic partner rather than an emergency hotline once something has already escalated. The conversation also goes deep on the ethical tension of AI-driven hiring and fairness, including how bias can show up on both sides, whether decisions are made by people or machines, and why the “trolley problem” isn’t just a thought experiment anymore.</p><p>This episode is for HR leaders who want to adopt AI responsibly, without parking their judgment at the door, and who want to future-proof their work by leaning harder into the human side of leadership.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>AI will change HR jobs, not eliminate them</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why HR’s value is judgment, context, and the human element</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The “three-legged stool” of business, legal, and people leadership</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>How HR and legal can partner early to prevent risk, not just react to it</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The reality of “shadow AI” and why assuming no one uses AI is the biggest risk</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Practical guardrails: data privacy, PII, sensitive employee info, and due diligence</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Where AI helps today: drafting, surveys, training design, and early recruiting support</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The ethics of AI in recruiting, fairness, and bias on both sides of the argument</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why culture, training, and peer learning matter more than expensive enablement programs</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Skills that will matter most for future-proof HR: curiosity, EQ, relationship-building, and broad capability</li></ol><br/><p>If you’re an HR leader trying to balance innovation with compliance, curious about AI’s real use cases beyond automation, or navigating how to adopt these tools without losing the human element, this episode offers a grounded and thoughtful framework.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/gfernandogarcia/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fernando Garcia on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">cd5b2a08-54e5-4e20-89d9-bd6d5b9a1ac7</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2026 15:55:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/cd5b2a08-54e5-4e20-89d9-bd6d5b9a1ac7.mp3" length="44636044" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>46:30</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>54</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>54</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/584155fb-eb3f-44d6-9606-1b948102f8ea/transcript.json" type="application/json"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/584155fb-eb3f-44d6-9606-1b948102f8ea/transcript.srt" type="application/srt" rel="captions"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/584155fb-eb3f-44d6-9606-1b948102f8ea/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>Beyond Survival Mode: How HR Brought Wellness + AI to Manufacturing</title><itunes:title>Beyond Survival Mode: How HR Brought Wellness + AI to Manufacturing</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Jim Kanichirayil, our podcast co-host and executive producer, sits down with Dominique Williams, Head of HR for North and South America at <u><a href="https://www.forbo.com/movement/en-gl/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Forbo Movement Systems</a></u>, to discuss the high-stakes transformation of HR in a manufacturing environment. Dominique shares her journey of walking into a "blank slate" organization—where the entire previous HR team had departed—and how she rebuilt the function from the ground up while facing a heartbreaking reality: five employees passing away before reaching retirement.</p><p>Dominique explains why she prioritized health and wellness over traditional administrative "optimizations" during her first three years. From addressing the "survival mode" mentality of frontline workers to bridging a significant technology gap, she shares practical examples of how focusing on the human side of the business leads to tangible financial results.</p><p>The conversation dives deep into the innovative use of AI in mental health. Dominique discusses the implementation of "Bella," an AI chatbot that provides 24/7 support to employees who might otherwise be reluctant to seek traditional therapy. She breaks down why AI can actually lower the barrier to mental health care by removing the fear of judgment often found in face-to-face interactions.</p><p>The episode closes with a powerful reminder: HR’s true value lies in building trust and ensuring employees don't just work for 30 years, but actually live to enjoy the retirement they worked so hard for.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Rebuilding an HR department with zero institutional knowledge.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Shifting the mindset of a generational manufacturing workforce.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>How prioritizing mental health led to a 10% decrease in turnover and lower healthcare costs.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Using the "Bella" chatbot to provide confidential, 24/7 support.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Overcoming employee and leadership reluctance toward new digital tools.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Partnering with academic institutions (UNC Charlotte) to modernize supervisor communication.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Creative ways to get participation in financial literacy and health fairs.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Presenting wellness as a business case to CFOs and Operations leaders.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Protecting the HR team from burnout to ensure they can lead from "clarity, not depletion."</li></ol><br/><p>If you are an HR leader in a traditional industry, navigating high turnover, or curious about how AI can be used for more than just automation, this episode offers a compassionate and data-backed blueprint for modernizing the workplace.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Connect with <u><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/domonique-williams-mhrm-b4b8a430/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dominique Williams on LinkedIn</a></u></li></ol><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Jim Kanichirayil, our podcast co-host and executive producer, sits down with Dominique Williams, Head of HR for North and South America at <u><a href="https://www.forbo.com/movement/en-gl/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Forbo Movement Systems</a></u>, to discuss the high-stakes transformation of HR in a manufacturing environment. Dominique shares her journey of walking into a "blank slate" organization—where the entire previous HR team had departed—and how she rebuilt the function from the ground up while facing a heartbreaking reality: five employees passing away before reaching retirement.</p><p>Dominique explains why she prioritized health and wellness over traditional administrative "optimizations" during her first three years. From addressing the "survival mode" mentality of frontline workers to bridging a significant technology gap, she shares practical examples of how focusing on the human side of the business leads to tangible financial results.</p><p>The conversation dives deep into the innovative use of AI in mental health. Dominique discusses the implementation of "Bella," an AI chatbot that provides 24/7 support to employees who might otherwise be reluctant to seek traditional therapy. She breaks down why AI can actually lower the barrier to mental health care by removing the fear of judgment often found in face-to-face interactions.</p><p>The episode closes with a powerful reminder: HR’s true value lies in building trust and ensuring employees don't just work for 30 years, but actually live to enjoy the retirement they worked so hard for.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Rebuilding an HR department with zero institutional knowledge.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Shifting the mindset of a generational manufacturing workforce.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>How prioritizing mental health led to a 10% decrease in turnover and lower healthcare costs.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Using the "Bella" chatbot to provide confidential, 24/7 support.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Overcoming employee and leadership reluctance toward new digital tools.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Partnering with academic institutions (UNC Charlotte) to modernize supervisor communication.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Creative ways to get participation in financial literacy and health fairs.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Presenting wellness as a business case to CFOs and Operations leaders.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Protecting the HR team from burnout to ensure they can lead from "clarity, not depletion."</li></ol><br/><p>If you are an HR leader in a traditional industry, navigating high turnover, or curious about how AI can be used for more than just automation, this episode offers a compassionate and data-backed blueprint for modernizing the workplace.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Connect with <u><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/domonique-williams-mhrm-b4b8a430/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dominique Williams on LinkedIn</a></u></li></ol><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">79029ea3-9d5e-40c9-900a-ab287ddde88a</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2026 13:15:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/79029ea3-9d5e-40c9-900a-ab287ddde88a.mp3" length="50218462" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>41:51</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>53</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>53</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/d348ba99-2b65-4de9-a83d-bbc11a2a2006/transcript.json" type="application/json"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/d348ba99-2b65-4de9-a83d-bbc11a2a2006/transcript.srt" type="application/srt" rel="captions"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/d348ba99-2b65-4de9-a83d-bbc11a2a2006/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>HR in the Age of AI: Leadership, Talent, and the New Rules of Work</title><itunes:title>HR in the Age of AI: Leadership, Talent, and the New Rules of Work</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu, CEO of Cleary, sits down with Adam McCoy, VP of HR at <u><a href="http://www.dmcglobal.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">DMC Global Inc</a></u>., to discuss what AI really means for HR leaders navigating economic pressure, talent shifts, and rising expectations to do more without adding headcount.</p><p>Adam explains why he is not asking for more HR headcount and how AI is changing the way teams prioritize, execute, and deliver value. From building leadership training with AI to rethinking day-to-day workflows, he shares practical examples of working smarter without sacrificing quality.</p><p>The conversation also explores how AI is reshaping talent acquisition on both sides of the hiring process. As candidates and employers both use AI tools, Adam breaks down the tension between efficiency, bias risk, legality, and candidate experience. He argues that AI fluency is quickly becoming a baseline expectation across roles.</p><p>They discussed governance and guardrails. Ignoring AI is reckless. Banning it is unrealistic. HR must help define responsible use, protect data, and build literacy across the organization.</p><p>The episode closes with a clear message: you won’t be replaced by AI, but you might be replaced by someone who knows how to use it.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why many CHROs are prioritizing productivity over headcount expansion</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Using AI to build leadership training and accelerate HR execution</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The evolving AI arms race in talent acquisition</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Balancing automation, bias, and legal risk in AI-powered hiring</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>How AI fluency is becoming a baseline job requirement</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The role of HR in enterprise AI governance and data guardrails</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why ignoring or banning AI is not a viable strategy</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Reskilling inside the HR function to stay relevant</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Maintaining trust and employee experience in an AI-enabled workplace</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why adaptability, not fear, is the real competitive advantage</li></ol><br/><p>If you are an HR leader navigating AI adoption, rethinking your talent strategy, or wondering how to stay relevant in a rapidly shifting workplace, this episode offers a grounded and candid look at what it takes to lead through the shift.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Connect with <u><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamtmccoy/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adam McCoy on LinkedIn</a></u></li></ol><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu, CEO of Cleary, sits down with Adam McCoy, VP of HR at <u><a href="http://www.dmcglobal.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">DMC Global Inc</a></u>., to discuss what AI really means for HR leaders navigating economic pressure, talent shifts, and rising expectations to do more without adding headcount.</p><p>Adam explains why he is not asking for more HR headcount and how AI is changing the way teams prioritize, execute, and deliver value. From building leadership training with AI to rethinking day-to-day workflows, he shares practical examples of working smarter without sacrificing quality.</p><p>The conversation also explores how AI is reshaping talent acquisition on both sides of the hiring process. As candidates and employers both use AI tools, Adam breaks down the tension between efficiency, bias risk, legality, and candidate experience. He argues that AI fluency is quickly becoming a baseline expectation across roles.</p><p>They discussed governance and guardrails. Ignoring AI is reckless. Banning it is unrealistic. HR must help define responsible use, protect data, and build literacy across the organization.</p><p>The episode closes with a clear message: you won’t be replaced by AI, but you might be replaced by someone who knows how to use it.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why many CHROs are prioritizing productivity over headcount expansion</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Using AI to build leadership training and accelerate HR execution</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The evolving AI arms race in talent acquisition</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Balancing automation, bias, and legal risk in AI-powered hiring</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>How AI fluency is becoming a baseline job requirement</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The role of HR in enterprise AI governance and data guardrails</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why ignoring or banning AI is not a viable strategy</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Reskilling inside the HR function to stay relevant</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Maintaining trust and employee experience in an AI-enabled workplace</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why adaptability, not fear, is the real competitive advantage</li></ol><br/><p>If you are an HR leader navigating AI adoption, rethinking your talent strategy, or wondering how to stay relevant in a rapidly shifting workplace, this episode offers a grounded and candid look at what it takes to lead through the shift.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Connect with <u><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamtmccoy/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adam McCoy on LinkedIn</a></u></li></ol><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">7d92dc07-d9e5-48ca-84ff-8e82111472f2</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2026 14:35:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/7d92dc07-d9e5-48ca-84ff-8e82111472f2.mp3" length="44458462" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>37:03</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>52</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>52</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/bf4d1f1e-d2f7-4e09-aee2-243f332a4235/transcript.json" type="application/json"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/bf4d1f1e-d2f7-4e09-aee2-243f332a4235/transcript.srt" type="application/srt" rel="captions"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/bf4d1f1e-d2f7-4e09-aee2-243f332a4235/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>AI That Elevates People: Building Strategy, Guardrails, and Momentum</title><itunes:title>AI That Elevates People: Building Strategy, Guardrails, and Momentum</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu, CEO of Cleary, sits down with Stefani Voorhees, Chief Human Resources Officer at <a href="http://www.propio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Propio Language Services</a>, to explore what it really takes to adopt AI across an organization without losing the human element.</p><p>Stefani shares how executive alignment, transparency, and a clear philosophy that “AI makes people better, not replaced” shaped a company-wide shift toward responsible experimentation. From forming an internal AI function to launching small pilots with guardrails, she walks through the practical realities of change management in fast-moving, high-growth environments.</p><p>The conversation dives into real use cases across talent acquisition, learning and development, and performance management. Stefani explains how AI-powered recruiting insights are helping HR move from anecdotal feedback to data-backed strategy, while also emphasizing the importance of blending technology with empathy. As automation increases, she argues, HR’s role becomes more strategic, not less.</p><p>The episode closes with a candid look at the future of HR. Stefani shares why AI is accelerating the shift from administrative work to business partnership, why “people experience” must remain the north star, and how leaders can stay adaptable when the future is anything but predictable.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why AI must be treated as a business decision, not just an HR initiative</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>How to align executives quickly around a clear AI philosophy</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Building guardrails with an AI committee and responsible pilots</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Using AI in talent acquisition to turn interview data into strategic insights</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Balancing content creation speed with human tone and quality</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The risks and opportunities of AI in performance management</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why HR is shifting from administrative to strategic work</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Blending technology and empathy to protect the employee experience</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Leading transparently through rapid change and acquisitions</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Future-proofing HR through adaptability and a fail-fast mindset</li></ol><br/><p>If you are an HR leader navigating AI adoption, managing change across teams, or trying to elevate your function from administrative to strategic, this episode offers a practical and grounded perspective on building momentum while staying people-first.</p><p>Additional Resources:</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/stefanivoorhees/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stefani Voorhees on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu, CEO of Cleary, sits down with Stefani Voorhees, Chief Human Resources Officer at <a href="http://www.propio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Propio Language Services</a>, to explore what it really takes to adopt AI across an organization without losing the human element.</p><p>Stefani shares how executive alignment, transparency, and a clear philosophy that “AI makes people better, not replaced” shaped a company-wide shift toward responsible experimentation. From forming an internal AI function to launching small pilots with guardrails, she walks through the practical realities of change management in fast-moving, high-growth environments.</p><p>The conversation dives into real use cases across talent acquisition, learning and development, and performance management. Stefani explains how AI-powered recruiting insights are helping HR move from anecdotal feedback to data-backed strategy, while also emphasizing the importance of blending technology with empathy. As automation increases, she argues, HR’s role becomes more strategic, not less.</p><p>The episode closes with a candid look at the future of HR. Stefani shares why AI is accelerating the shift from administrative work to business partnership, why “people experience” must remain the north star, and how leaders can stay adaptable when the future is anything but predictable.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why AI must be treated as a business decision, not just an HR initiative</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>How to align executives quickly around a clear AI philosophy</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Building guardrails with an AI committee and responsible pilots</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Using AI in talent acquisition to turn interview data into strategic insights</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Balancing content creation speed with human tone and quality</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The risks and opportunities of AI in performance management</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why HR is shifting from administrative to strategic work</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Blending technology and empathy to protect the employee experience</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Leading transparently through rapid change and acquisitions</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Future-proofing HR through adaptability and a fail-fast mindset</li></ol><br/><p>If you are an HR leader navigating AI adoption, managing change across teams, or trying to elevate your function from administrative to strategic, this episode offers a practical and grounded perspective on building momentum while staying people-first.</p><p>Additional Resources:</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/stefanivoorhees/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stefani Voorhees on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">cbffd972-2769-4e40-93f1-21f3eef88e76</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2026 11:20:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/cbffd972-2769-4e40-93f1-21f3eef88e76.mp3" length="54364095" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>45:18</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>51</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>51</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/2569abab-3c7f-40ac-b319-9094fce859ef/transcript.json" type="application/json"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/2569abab-3c7f-40ac-b319-9094fce859ef/transcript.srt" type="application/srt" rel="captions"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/2569abab-3c7f-40ac-b319-9094fce859ef/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>The Strategic Pivot: Navigating HR Layoffs, Brand Perception, and the AI Frontier</title><itunes:title>The Strategic Pivot: Navigating HR Layoffs, Brand Perception, and the AI Frontier</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu, CEO of Cleary, sits down with Chelly Conley, Director of Global HR and Inclusion at <a href="https://www.knowbe4.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">KnowBe4</a>, to discuss the raw reality of the HR industry in 2026. From navigating the toughest job market in over a decade to surviving the "Wild West" of AI adoption, Chelly shares a no-sugarcoat guide to staying resilient and relevant.</p><p>Chelly opens up about the "visceral" state of the current HR labor market, where experienced professionals are facing year-long unemployment cycles. The conversation dives deep into HR’s ongoing identity crisis—explaining why rebranding to "People and Culture" fails if the team is still viewed as the "food and fun" department rather than a strategic business partner.</p><p>The two also explore the bizarre and high-stakes side of AI in talent acquisition. Chelly shares cautionary tales of "AI Brandon" bot interviews and deepfake candidates, while offering a practical framework for where HR should automate (administrative weeds) and where they must remain human (employment law and empathy).</p><p>The episode closes with a masterclass on the J-Curve of change management. Chelly explains how HR leaders can future-proof their teams by "de-centering" themselves to lead employees through the chaos of transformation, ensuring that the eventual gains in productivity are worth the initial dip.</p><h3><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></h3><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The 2026 HR Job Market: Why it’s the toughest environment in 13 years</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Navigating "Advice Fatigue" and the emotional toll of long-term unemployment</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The HR Branding Trap: Moving beyond "party planning" to strategic business alignment</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why "doing more with less" requires choosing which hills to die on</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The "Wild West" of AI: Dealing with AI interview bots and deepfake candidates</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The Legal Guardrails: Why you should never use AI for employment law (ADA, FMLA, etc.)</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Finding the "Middle Steps": Identifying the right HR tasks for automation</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The J-Curve of Change Management: Understanding the dip before the breakthrough</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>"De-centering" as a leadership tool to build psychological safety during transitions</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Future-proofing through adaptability and a growth mindset</li></ol><br/><p>If you are an HR leader feeling the weight of burnout, navigating a lean team, or trying to find the balance between human empathy and AI efficiency, this episode offers the grounded, "real-talk" perspective needed to pivot toward a more strategic future.</p><h3><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></h3><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/chellydconley/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chelly Conley on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu, CEO of Cleary, sits down with Chelly Conley, Director of Global HR and Inclusion at <a href="https://www.knowbe4.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">KnowBe4</a>, to discuss the raw reality of the HR industry in 2026. From navigating the toughest job market in over a decade to surviving the "Wild West" of AI adoption, Chelly shares a no-sugarcoat guide to staying resilient and relevant.</p><p>Chelly opens up about the "visceral" state of the current HR labor market, where experienced professionals are facing year-long unemployment cycles. The conversation dives deep into HR’s ongoing identity crisis—explaining why rebranding to "People and Culture" fails if the team is still viewed as the "food and fun" department rather than a strategic business partner.</p><p>The two also explore the bizarre and high-stakes side of AI in talent acquisition. Chelly shares cautionary tales of "AI Brandon" bot interviews and deepfake candidates, while offering a practical framework for where HR should automate (administrative weeds) and where they must remain human (employment law and empathy).</p><p>The episode closes with a masterclass on the J-Curve of change management. Chelly explains how HR leaders can future-proof their teams by "de-centering" themselves to lead employees through the chaos of transformation, ensuring that the eventual gains in productivity are worth the initial dip.</p><h3><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></h3><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The 2026 HR Job Market: Why it’s the toughest environment in 13 years</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Navigating "Advice Fatigue" and the emotional toll of long-term unemployment</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The HR Branding Trap: Moving beyond "party planning" to strategic business alignment</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why "doing more with less" requires choosing which hills to die on</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The "Wild West" of AI: Dealing with AI interview bots and deepfake candidates</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The Legal Guardrails: Why you should never use AI for employment law (ADA, FMLA, etc.)</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Finding the "Middle Steps": Identifying the right HR tasks for automation</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The J-Curve of Change Management: Understanding the dip before the breakthrough</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>"De-centering" as a leadership tool to build psychological safety during transitions</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Future-proofing through adaptability and a growth mindset</li></ol><br/><p>If you are an HR leader feeling the weight of burnout, navigating a lean team, or trying to find the balance between human empathy and AI efficiency, this episode offers the grounded, "real-talk" perspective needed to pivot toward a more strategic future.</p><h3><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></h3><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/chellydconley/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chelly Conley on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">675aa10f-272d-443b-a9cb-a5388337d5c4</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2026 11:10:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/675aa10f-272d-443b-a9cb-a5388337d5c4.mp3" length="54673907" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>45:34</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>50</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>50</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/a8b27dab-5592-498b-b7b4-a9dae883281b/transcript.json" type="application/json"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/a8b27dab-5592-498b-b7b4-a9dae883281b/transcript.srt" type="application/srt" rel="captions"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/a8b27dab-5592-498b-b7b4-a9dae883281b/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>Trust Is the Strategy: Transparency During Reorgs, M&amp;A, and AI Shifts</title><itunes:title>Trust Is the Strategy: Transparency During Reorgs, M&amp;A, and AI Shifts</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu, CEO of Cleary, sits down with Jennifer Albert, Chief People Officer at <a href="https://extensiv.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Extensiv</a>, to explore what it really takes to lead through sustained change. From reorgs and acquisitions to AI adoption, Jennifer explains why trust and transparency are the difference between momentum and breakdown.</p><p>Jennifer shares how her background in psychology and business shaped her approach to HR leadership during periods of intense disruption. The conversation focuses on how HR leaders can move beyond reactive change management by creating clarity, consistency, and confidence when uncertainty is high.</p><p>They also discuss AI adoption through a people-first lens. Jennifer advocates for curiosity over fear, low-risk experimentation, and clear guardrails to reduce shadow AI, while using technology to amplify HR’s impact rather than replace it.</p><p>The episode closes with a practical look at micro-promotions and career tracks, and how visible, incremental progress helps rebuild engagement, restore confidence after a reorg, and support internal mobility.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Jennifer’s path into HR and how a psychology and business background shaped her leadership style</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why trust is an execution strategy, not a soft value</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Leading through reorgs, M&amp;A, and rebrands with transparency and clarity</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>When and how HR should influence major business decisions</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Preventing cultural breakdowns during acquisitions</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why uncertainty, not change itself, creates resistance</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>AI adoption as a change management challenge, not just a tech rollout</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Low-risk ways to build AI fluency across teams</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Creating AI governance to reduce risk and shadow usage</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Micro-promotions and career tracks as post-reorg retention tools</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>How visible progress supports engagement and internal mobility</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Doing more with lean HR teams by focusing on priorities that matter most</li></ol><br/><p>If you are an HR leader navigating reorgs, acquisitions, or AI adoption and want to build trust without slowing the business down, this episode offers grounded, experience-based insight into how transparency and people-first decision-making future-proof the HR function.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenmalbert/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Jennifer Albert on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu, CEO of Cleary, sits down with Jennifer Albert, Chief People Officer at <a href="https://extensiv.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Extensiv</a>, to explore what it really takes to lead through sustained change. From reorgs and acquisitions to AI adoption, Jennifer explains why trust and transparency are the difference between momentum and breakdown.</p><p>Jennifer shares how her background in psychology and business shaped her approach to HR leadership during periods of intense disruption. The conversation focuses on how HR leaders can move beyond reactive change management by creating clarity, consistency, and confidence when uncertainty is high.</p><p>They also discuss AI adoption through a people-first lens. Jennifer advocates for curiosity over fear, low-risk experimentation, and clear guardrails to reduce shadow AI, while using technology to amplify HR’s impact rather than replace it.</p><p>The episode closes with a practical look at micro-promotions and career tracks, and how visible, incremental progress helps rebuild engagement, restore confidence after a reorg, and support internal mobility.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Jennifer’s path into HR and how a psychology and business background shaped her leadership style</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why trust is an execution strategy, not a soft value</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Leading through reorgs, M&amp;A, and rebrands with transparency and clarity</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>When and how HR should influence major business decisions</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Preventing cultural breakdowns during acquisitions</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why uncertainty, not change itself, creates resistance</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>AI adoption as a change management challenge, not just a tech rollout</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Low-risk ways to build AI fluency across teams</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Creating AI governance to reduce risk and shadow usage</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Micro-promotions and career tracks as post-reorg retention tools</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>How visible progress supports engagement and internal mobility</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Doing more with lean HR teams by focusing on priorities that matter most</li></ol><br/><p>If you are an HR leader navigating reorgs, acquisitions, or AI adoption and want to build trust without slowing the business down, this episode offers grounded, experience-based insight into how transparency and people-first decision-making future-proof the HR function.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenmalbert/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Jennifer Albert on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">40c57c80-63ae-4c96-b938-60b9e60ab246</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2026 13:25:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/40c57c80-63ae-4c96-b938-60b9e60ab246.mp3" length="57454903" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>47:53</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>49</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>49</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/89879e2a-06bb-4ca0-aec8-9c2d2d7073bd/transcript.json" type="application/json"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/89879e2a-06bb-4ca0-aec8-9c2d2d7073bd/transcript.srt" type="application/srt" rel="captions"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/89879e2a-06bb-4ca0-aec8-9c2d2d7073bd/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>Revenue, Risk, and Remote Truth: Future-Proofing Talent Acquisition</title><itunes:title>Revenue, Risk, and Remote Truth: Future-Proofing Talent Acquisition</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Jim Kanichirayil, our podcast co-host and executive producer, sits down with Amanda Woodard, Senior Director of HR at <a href="https://www.submittable.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Submittable</a>, to unpack what changes when talent acquisition goes hybrid, candidate pools explode, and AI makes it easier than ever for bad actors to slip into your pipeline.</p><p>Amanda shares her unconventional path from customer success into TA and HR, and why that revenue-side experience helped her operationalize recruiting like a pipeline, not a reactive process. From there, the conversation zooms into the real-world tension HR teams are facing right now: opening up remote hiring to access better talent, while also tightening controls to prevent fraud, deepfakes, and identity mismatches that can put the business at risk, especially in highly regulated environments.</p><p>She breaks down the practical systems her team uses to protect candidate quality without killing candidate flow, including multi-step ID verification, digital footprint checks, geolocation signals, and reference validation that focuses less on “good feedback” and more on authenticity. Along the way, Amanda offers a clear-eyed take on the AI hype cycle, why most “AI” tools are actually automation, and what HR leaders can do today while major ATS and background check providers race to build native solutions.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The shift from onsite recruiting to hybrid hiring, and why competition intensified</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>How revenue-side experience can transform TA into a more operational, pipeline-driven function</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Navigating leadership resistance and trust issues during the move to remote work</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why candidate fraud is escalating, and what it means for HR and TA teams</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Using automation vs. true AI to reduce application review time</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Filtering and reverse-filtering candidates based on skills and signals</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Multi-layer identity verification: digital footprint checks, photo ID gates, and reference validation</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Balancing candidate experience with security and risk mitigation</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why transparency in the process reduces candidate drop-off</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>What TA leaders should implement now, regardless of industry, to reduce hiring risk</li></ol><br/><p>If you are an HR or Talent Acquisition leader trying to keep hiring quality high in a hybrid world where AI-driven fraud is becoming more common, this episode offers a practical look at how to build tighter safeguards without losing trust, speed, or the ability to compete for strong candidates.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/amanda-woodard-ta/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Amanda Woodard on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/><p><strong><em>*Note:</em></strong><em> Amanda was with Submittable at the time of this recording.</em></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Jim Kanichirayil, our podcast co-host and executive producer, sits down with Amanda Woodard, Senior Director of HR at <a href="https://www.submittable.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Submittable</a>, to unpack what changes when talent acquisition goes hybrid, candidate pools explode, and AI makes it easier than ever for bad actors to slip into your pipeline.</p><p>Amanda shares her unconventional path from customer success into TA and HR, and why that revenue-side experience helped her operationalize recruiting like a pipeline, not a reactive process. From there, the conversation zooms into the real-world tension HR teams are facing right now: opening up remote hiring to access better talent, while also tightening controls to prevent fraud, deepfakes, and identity mismatches that can put the business at risk, especially in highly regulated environments.</p><p>She breaks down the practical systems her team uses to protect candidate quality without killing candidate flow, including multi-step ID verification, digital footprint checks, geolocation signals, and reference validation that focuses less on “good feedback” and more on authenticity. Along the way, Amanda offers a clear-eyed take on the AI hype cycle, why most “AI” tools are actually automation, and what HR leaders can do today while major ATS and background check providers race to build native solutions.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The shift from onsite recruiting to hybrid hiring, and why competition intensified</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>How revenue-side experience can transform TA into a more operational, pipeline-driven function</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Navigating leadership resistance and trust issues during the move to remote work</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why candidate fraud is escalating, and what it means for HR and TA teams</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Using automation vs. true AI to reduce application review time</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Filtering and reverse-filtering candidates based on skills and signals</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Multi-layer identity verification: digital footprint checks, photo ID gates, and reference validation</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Balancing candidate experience with security and risk mitigation</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why transparency in the process reduces candidate drop-off</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>What TA leaders should implement now, regardless of industry, to reduce hiring risk</li></ol><br/><p>If you are an HR or Talent Acquisition leader trying to keep hiring quality high in a hybrid world where AI-driven fraud is becoming more common, this episode offers a practical look at how to build tighter safeguards without losing trust, speed, or the ability to compete for strong candidates.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/amanda-woodard-ta/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Amanda Woodard on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/><p><strong><em>*Note:</em></strong><em> Amanda was with Submittable at the time of this recording.</em></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">43fc5809-0369-4c95-a7c0-0ab51b5bbcf2</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2026 09:10:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/43fc5809-0369-4c95-a7c0-0ab51b5bbcf2.mp3" length="47149075" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>39:17</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>48</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>48</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/1cc941b0-8d47-484c-baf7-58ae87e437e3/transcript.json" type="application/json"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/1cc941b0-8d47-484c-baf7-58ae87e437e3/transcript.srt" type="application/srt" rel="captions"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/1cc941b0-8d47-484c-baf7-58ae87e437e3/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>The 24-Month Head Start: Rethinking People, CX, and Capacity with AI</title><itunes:title>The 24-Month Head Start: Rethinking People, CX, and Capacity with AI</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Lorena Scott, Chief People Officer and Head of Customer Experience at <a href="https://relayfi.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Relay</a>, to explore how AI can be used to accelerate people and CX roadmaps without losing the human moments that matter most.</p><p>Drawing on her dual mandate across People and Customer Experience, Lorena shares how Relay thinks about AI not as a replacement for people, but as a way to expand capacity, unlock time, and bring forward initiatives that would otherwise live years out on the roadmap. She explains how lessons from CX such as coaching, enablement, and quality assurance have directly informed people practices, and why unifying these functions has created a more consistent and human-centered experience across the business.</p><p>Lorena breaks down practical examples of AI in action, including AI-powered coaching to support managers and individual contributors, using AI to accelerate insights from people data, rethinking headcount planning across human and non-human capacity, and creating space for internal mobility through stretch projects. Throughout the conversation, she emphasizes the importance of showing impact through action, not promises, as the most effective way to build trust and reduce fear around AI adoption.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Using AI to accelerate people and CX roadmaps</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span> Unifying People and Customer Experience under one operating philosophy</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span> AI coaching for managers and individual contributors</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span> Expanding human impact by removing low-value work</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span> Rethinking headcount planning with human and non-human capacity</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span> Applying CX learnings to HR enablement and support</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span> Internal mobility and stretch opportunities in a scaled organization</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span> Building trust through action, not reassurance</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span> Preparing people teams for an AI-enabled future</li></ol><br/><p>If you are an HR or People leader looking to use AI to scale impact, improve enablement, and move critical initiatives forward faster without sacrificing humanity, this episode offers a thoughtful, operator-level perspective on what future-proofing really looks like.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lorena-scott-a7563/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Lorena Scott on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Lorena Scott, Chief People Officer and Head of Customer Experience at <a href="https://relayfi.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Relay</a>, to explore how AI can be used to accelerate people and CX roadmaps without losing the human moments that matter most.</p><p>Drawing on her dual mandate across People and Customer Experience, Lorena shares how Relay thinks about AI not as a replacement for people, but as a way to expand capacity, unlock time, and bring forward initiatives that would otherwise live years out on the roadmap. She explains how lessons from CX such as coaching, enablement, and quality assurance have directly informed people practices, and why unifying these functions has created a more consistent and human-centered experience across the business.</p><p>Lorena breaks down practical examples of AI in action, including AI-powered coaching to support managers and individual contributors, using AI to accelerate insights from people data, rethinking headcount planning across human and non-human capacity, and creating space for internal mobility through stretch projects. Throughout the conversation, she emphasizes the importance of showing impact through action, not promises, as the most effective way to build trust and reduce fear around AI adoption.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Using AI to accelerate people and CX roadmaps</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span> Unifying People and Customer Experience under one operating philosophy</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span> AI coaching for managers and individual contributors</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span> Expanding human impact by removing low-value work</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span> Rethinking headcount planning with human and non-human capacity</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span> Applying CX learnings to HR enablement and support</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span> Internal mobility and stretch opportunities in a scaled organization</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span> Building trust through action, not reassurance</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span> Preparing people teams for an AI-enabled future</li></ol><br/><p>If you are an HR or People leader looking to use AI to scale impact, improve enablement, and move critical initiatives forward faster without sacrificing humanity, this episode offers a thoughtful, operator-level perspective on what future-proofing really looks like.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lorena-scott-a7563/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Lorena Scott on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">ccb7b52a-e02b-4d6a-a5a2-05117b911758</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2026 10:50:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/ccb7b52a-e02b-4d6a-a5a2-05117b911758.mp3" length="46529973" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>38:46</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>47</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>47</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/6d4c5197-45b9-43a9-bba9-d7c14944288f/transcript.json" type="application/json"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/6d4c5197-45b9-43a9-bba9-d7c14944288f/transcript.srt" type="application/srt" rel="captions"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/6d4c5197-45b9-43a9-bba9-d7c14944288f/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>Human First, AI Powered: How One Company Scaled Without Replacing People</title><itunes:title>Human First, AI Powered: How One Company Scaled Without Replacing People</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Marlene Cosain, HR Director at Abby Connect, to explore what it really looks like when a human-centered company introduces AI into the core of its business without eroding trust or displacing its people.</p><p>Drawing on her journey from receptionist to HR Director, Marlene shares how <a href="https://www.abby.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Abby Connect</a> navigated the launch of an AI receptionist inside a company built on human connection. She explains why transparency, early communication, and sustained trust were essential in helping employees move from fear to engagement during a major strategic shift.</p><p>Marlene breaks down how HR led AI adoption by raising AI literacy through low-stakes experimentation, empowering early adopters, and enabling receptionists to transition into AI-adjacent roles. She explains why domain expertise became the foundation for new positions like AI technicians and QA specialists, and how human-in-the-loop design emerged as both a cultural anchor and a market differentiator.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Human-first AI adoption in a people-driven business</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Building trust during AI-driven change</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Raising AI literacy through practical experimentation</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Promoting from within during transformation</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Creating AI-adjacent roles from frontline expertise</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Human-in-the-loop design as a competitive advantage</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>HR’s role as the glue during strategic shifts</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Supporting middle managers through uncertainty</li></ol><br/><p>If you are an HR leader navigating AI adoption, workforce trust, or large-scale change that affects both the business model and the work itself, this episode offers a grounded, real-world perspective on how HR can lead transformation without losing its people.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/marlene-cosain-79361211a/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Marlene Cosain on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Marlene Cosain, HR Director at Abby Connect, to explore what it really looks like when a human-centered company introduces AI into the core of its business without eroding trust or displacing its people.</p><p>Drawing on her journey from receptionist to HR Director, Marlene shares how <a href="https://www.abby.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Abby Connect</a> navigated the launch of an AI receptionist inside a company built on human connection. She explains why transparency, early communication, and sustained trust were essential in helping employees move from fear to engagement during a major strategic shift.</p><p>Marlene breaks down how HR led AI adoption by raising AI literacy through low-stakes experimentation, empowering early adopters, and enabling receptionists to transition into AI-adjacent roles. She explains why domain expertise became the foundation for new positions like AI technicians and QA specialists, and how human-in-the-loop design emerged as both a cultural anchor and a market differentiator.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Human-first AI adoption in a people-driven business</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Building trust during AI-driven change</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Raising AI literacy through practical experimentation</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Promoting from within during transformation</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Creating AI-adjacent roles from frontline expertise</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Human-in-the-loop design as a competitive advantage</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>HR’s role as the glue during strategic shifts</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Supporting middle managers through uncertainty</li></ol><br/><p>If you are an HR leader navigating AI adoption, workforce trust, or large-scale change that affects both the business model and the work itself, this episode offers a grounded, real-world perspective on how HR can lead transformation without losing its people.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/marlene-cosain-79361211a/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Marlene Cosain on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">6b1b96f5-8384-4140-b919-1bd7bb060d77</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2026 02:56:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/6b1b96f5-8384-4140-b919-1bd7bb060d77.mp3" length="39438773" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>32:52</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>46</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>46</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/fb936564-d15d-4911-8c20-197565887a8d/transcript.json" type="application/json"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/fb936564-d15d-4911-8c20-197565887a8d/transcript.srt" type="application/srt" rel="captions"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/fb936564-d15d-4911-8c20-197565887a8d/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>People + Strategy: Coaching the System, Not Just the Leaders</title><itunes:title>People + Strategy: Coaching the System, Not Just the Leaders</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Andy Martiniello, Chief People Officer at <a href="http://equipmentontario.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Equipment Ontario</a> and Principal Coach at <a href="https://www.martiniello.co/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Martiniello Coaching &amp; Consulting</a>, to explore what it really means for HR to work at the intersection of people and strategy, not as separate disciplines, but in lockstep.</p><p>Drawing on a career spanning sales leadership, executive coaching, HR technology, and strategy work, Andy shares how coaching senior leaders requires a deep understanding of how the business actually runs. He explains why focusing on individuals alone is not enough, and how people leaders can create real impact by coaching the system, the value chain, the operating model, and the patterns that shape outcomes.</p><p>Andy breaks down how CPOs and CHROs can move upstream into strategy by mapping how work flows across the organization, identifying where execution stalls, and aligning teams around a shared understanding of how value is created. He also discusses the tension between psychological safety and accountability, and why effective coaching must balance both to drive meaningful change.</p><p>The conversation explores how AI is reshaping people and strategy work, not by replacing human judgment, but by accelerating analysis, surfacing patterns, and acting as a thought partner for leaders navigating complexity. Andy shares practical examples of how AI can help HR leaders make better decisions, faster, while keeping interpretation and accountability firmly human.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>People and strategy working in lockstep</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Coaching the business system, not just individual leaders</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Balancing psychological safety with accountability</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Mapping value chains before org charts</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Using AI as a thought partner in people and strategy work</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Moving HR upstream into strategy conversations</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Identifying patterns that block execution</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>What it takes for HR to drive outcomes, not just support them</li></ol><br/><p>If you are an HR leader, people executive, or coach looking to move beyond individual development and influence how the business actually works, this episode offers a grounded, systems-level perspective on how HR can create lasting strategic impact.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/andymartiniello/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Andy Martiniello on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Andy Martiniello, Chief People Officer at <a href="http://equipmentontario.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Equipment Ontario</a> and Principal Coach at <a href="https://www.martiniello.co/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Martiniello Coaching &amp; Consulting</a>, to explore what it really means for HR to work at the intersection of people and strategy, not as separate disciplines, but in lockstep.</p><p>Drawing on a career spanning sales leadership, executive coaching, HR technology, and strategy work, Andy shares how coaching senior leaders requires a deep understanding of how the business actually runs. He explains why focusing on individuals alone is not enough, and how people leaders can create real impact by coaching the system, the value chain, the operating model, and the patterns that shape outcomes.</p><p>Andy breaks down how CPOs and CHROs can move upstream into strategy by mapping how work flows across the organization, identifying where execution stalls, and aligning teams around a shared understanding of how value is created. He also discusses the tension between psychological safety and accountability, and why effective coaching must balance both to drive meaningful change.</p><p>The conversation explores how AI is reshaping people and strategy work, not by replacing human judgment, but by accelerating analysis, surfacing patterns, and acting as a thought partner for leaders navigating complexity. Andy shares practical examples of how AI can help HR leaders make better decisions, faster, while keeping interpretation and accountability firmly human.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>People and strategy working in lockstep</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Coaching the business system, not just individual leaders</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Balancing psychological safety with accountability</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Mapping value chains before org charts</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Using AI as a thought partner in people and strategy work</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Moving HR upstream into strategy conversations</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Identifying patterns that block execution</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>What it takes for HR to drive outcomes, not just support them</li></ol><br/><p>If you are an HR leader, people executive, or coach looking to move beyond individual development and influence how the business actually works, this episode offers a grounded, systems-level perspective on how HR can create lasting strategic impact.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/andymartiniello/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Andy Martiniello on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">72f60b26-f09c-4028-9512-b8abd939f019</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2026 10:30:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/72f60b26-f09c-4028-9512-b8abd939f019.mp3" length="59247426" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>49:22</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>45</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>45</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/9e495741-6bb9-47c4-9fd3-444cdaf200be/transcript.json" type="application/json"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/9e495741-6bb9-47c4-9fd3-444cdaf200be/transcript.srt" type="application/srt" rel="captions"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/9e495741-6bb9-47c4-9fd3-444cdaf200be/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>Beyond the Seat at the Table: Claiming Authority through Cost Savings and Psychological Trust</title><itunes:title>Beyond the Seat at the Table: Claiming Authority through Cost Savings and Psychological Trust</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Kendall Schultz, Chief People Officer at Triumph Behavior Support, to explore what it really takes for HR to move beyond a cost center and earn authority inside fast-growing, high-pressure organizations. With over 15 years of experience across venture-backed and private equity environments, Kendall shares how HR leaders can build credibility through execution, not permission, while navigating scale, risk, and constant change.</p><p>Kendall breaks down why waiting to be invited into strategy conversations no longer works for HR. Instead, she explains how people leaders must proactively identify risk, eliminate waste, influence decisions, and operate with the same rigor as product and finance teams. From finding significant cost inefficiencies to treating people operations like a product roadmap, she outlines how HR can become a true value engine for the business.</p><p>The conversation also explores the human side of authority. Kendall shares how psychological safety, ethical leadership, and transparency are not soft concepts but essential operating principles, especially during restructures, layoffs, and periods of rapid growth. She explains why HR must be present, consistent, and willing to make hard calls to build trust that scales beyond the HR function itself.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Reframing HR from cost center to value engine</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Earning authority through execution, not title</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Treating people operations like a product</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Finding operational inefficiencies and reducing organizational waste</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Building credibility with CEOs and founders in PE and VC environments</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Embedding psychological safety into daily operations</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Leading ethically through layoffs and restructures</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The limits and opportunities of AI in people operations</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>What skills HR leaders need to stay relevant and future-proof their role</li></ol><br/><p>If you are an HR leader, people operator, or executive navigating scale, scrutiny, and constant pressure to prove value, this episode offers a clear, experience-backed view of how HR can earn lasting influence and relevance in the future of work.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/schultzk2/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Kendall Schultz on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Kendall Schultz, Chief People Officer at Triumph Behavior Support, to explore what it really takes for HR to move beyond a cost center and earn authority inside fast-growing, high-pressure organizations. With over 15 years of experience across venture-backed and private equity environments, Kendall shares how HR leaders can build credibility through execution, not permission, while navigating scale, risk, and constant change.</p><p>Kendall breaks down why waiting to be invited into strategy conversations no longer works for HR. Instead, she explains how people leaders must proactively identify risk, eliminate waste, influence decisions, and operate with the same rigor as product and finance teams. From finding significant cost inefficiencies to treating people operations like a product roadmap, she outlines how HR can become a true value engine for the business.</p><p>The conversation also explores the human side of authority. Kendall shares how psychological safety, ethical leadership, and transparency are not soft concepts but essential operating principles, especially during restructures, layoffs, and periods of rapid growth. She explains why HR must be present, consistent, and willing to make hard calls to build trust that scales beyond the HR function itself.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Reframing HR from cost center to value engine</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Earning authority through execution, not title</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Treating people operations like a product</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Finding operational inefficiencies and reducing organizational waste</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Building credibility with CEOs and founders in PE and VC environments</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Embedding psychological safety into daily operations</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Leading ethically through layoffs and restructures</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The limits and opportunities of AI in people operations</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>What skills HR leaders need to stay relevant and future-proof their role</li></ol><br/><p>If you are an HR leader, people operator, or executive navigating scale, scrutiny, and constant pressure to prove value, this episode offers a clear, experience-backed view of how HR can earn lasting influence and relevance in the future of work.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/schultzk2/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Kendall Schultz on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">1eaacdf9-025c-408d-a3ba-d4c25d0c1bae</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2026 13:09:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/1eaacdf9-025c-408d-a3ba-d4c25d0c1bae.mp3" length="56458593" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>47:03</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>44</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>44</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/cb5d057a-079a-46ae-971c-e06bd651d94c/transcript.json" type="application/json"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/cb5d057a-079a-46ae-971c-e06bd651d94c/transcript.srt" type="application/srt" rel="captions"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/cb5d057a-079a-46ae-971c-e06bd651d94c/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>Human Connection Is the Product: Why This HR Leader Won’t Let AI Touch the Core</title><itunes:title>Human Connection Is the Product: Why This HR Leader Won’t Let AI Touch the Core</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Amaan Hussain, Director of HR at <a href="https://gocleary.com/In%20this%20episode%20of%20the%20Future%20Proof%20HR%20podcast,%20Thomas%20Kunjappu%20sits%20down%20with%20Amaan%20Hussain,%20Director%20of%20HR%20at%20The%20Acquisition%20Group,%20to%20explore%20how%20HR%20leaders%20can%20adopt%20AI%20without%20sacrificing%20the%20human%20connection%20that%20defines%20their%20organization.%20With%20over%20a%20decade%20of%20experience%20leading%20HR%20strategy%20in%20high-growth,%20direct-to-consumer%20environments,%20Amaan%20shares%20how%20his%20team%20balances%20efficiency,%20empathy,%20and%20scale%20in%20a%20world%20increasingly%20shaped%20by%20technology.%20%20Amaan%20explains%20why%20his%20organization%20is%20intentionally%20cautious%20about%20where%20AI%20shows%20up%20and%20where%20it%20does%20not.%20He%20outlines%20a%20clear%20guardrail%20that%20guides%20every%20technology%20decision:%20AI%20can%20improve%20speed,%20consistency,%20and%20insight,%20but%20it%20should%20never%20replace%20the%20core%20human%20relationships%20that%20drive%20performance,%20trust,%20and%20differentiation.%20From%20recruiting%20and%20coaching%20to%20sales%20enablement,%20he%20shares%20how%20a%20hybrid%20model%20allows%20AI%20to%20augment%20work%20without%20eroding%20what%20makes%20the%20business%20successful.%20%20The%20conversation%20also%20explores%20recruiting%20and%20managing%20Gen%20Z%20in%20high-touch,%20in-person%20roles.%20Amaan%20discusses%20how%20generational%20shifts,%20post-pandemic%20expectations,%20and%20increased%20access%20to%20information%20are%20changing%20how%20candidates%20evaluate%20employers.%20He%20explains%20why%20adapting%20leadership%20style%20matters%20more%20than%20trying%20to%20change%20the%20workforce,%20and%20how%20culture,%20growth%20opportunity,%20and%20human%20connection%20remain%20powerful%20advantages%20even%20in%20a%20tech-saturated%20market.%20%20Topics%20Discussed:%20%20Protecting%20human%20connection%20as%20a%20core%20business%20and%20HR%20value%20Being%20strategic,%20not%20reactive,%20with%20AI%20adoption%20Where%20AI%20can%20improve%20efficiency%20without%20replacing%20judgment%20Using%20AI%20for%20coaching,%20feedback,%20and%20skill%20development%20Recruiting%20and%20engaging%20Gen%20Z%20for%20non-remote,%20high-touch%20roles%20Adapting%20leadership%20styles%20to%20generational%20shifts%20Creating%20guardrails%20for%20HR%20technology%20decisions%20Balancing%20productivity%20gains%20with%20long-term%20culture%20and%20trust%20%20If%20you%20are%20an%20HR%20leader,%20people%20strategist,%20or%20executive%20navigating%20AI%20adoption%20while%20trying%20to%20preserve%20culture,%20credibility,%20and%20human%20connection,%20this%20episode%20offers%20a%20practical%20and%20grounded%20perspective%20on%20how%20to%20do%20both%20well.%20%20Additional%20Resources:%20%20Cleary%E2%80%99s%20AI-powered%20HR%20Chatbot%20Future%20Proof%20HR%20Community%20Connect%20with%20Amaan%20Hussain%20on%20LinkedIn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Acquisition Group,</a> to explore how HR leaders can adopt AI without sacrificing the human connection that defines their organization. With over a decade of experience leading HR strategy in high-growth, direct-to-consumer environments, Amaan shares how his team balances efficiency, empathy, and scale in a world increasingly shaped by technology.</p><p>Amaan explains why his organization is intentionally cautious about where AI shows up and where it does not. He outlines a clear guardrail that guides every technology decision: AI can improve speed, consistency, and insight, but it should never replace the core human relationships that drive performance, trust, and differentiation. From recruiting and coaching to sales enablement, he shares how a hybrid model allows AI to augment work without eroding what makes the business successful.</p><p>The conversation also explores recruiting and managing Gen Z in high-touch, in-person roles. Amaan discusses how generational shifts, post-pandemic expectations, and increased access to information are changing how candidates evaluate employers. He explains why adapting leadership style matters more than trying to change the workforce, and how culture, growth opportunity, and human connection remain powerful advantages even in a tech-saturated market.</p><p>Topics Discussed:</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Protecting human connection as a core business and HR value</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Being strategic, not reactive, with AI adoption</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Where AI can improve efficiency without replacing judgment</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Using AI for coaching, feedback, and skill development</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Recruiting and engaging Gen Z for non-remote, high-touch roles</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Adapting leadership styles to generational shifts</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Creating guardrails for HR technology decisions</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Balancing productivity gains with long-term culture and trust</li></ol><br/><p>If you are an HR leader, people strategist, or executive navigating AI adoption while trying to preserve culture, credibility, and human connection, this episode offers a practical and grounded perspective on how to do both well.</p><p>Additional Resources:</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/amaanhussain/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Amaan Hussain on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Amaan Hussain, Director of HR at <a href="https://gocleary.com/In%20this%20episode%20of%20the%20Future%20Proof%20HR%20podcast,%20Thomas%20Kunjappu%20sits%20down%20with%20Amaan%20Hussain,%20Director%20of%20HR%20at%20The%20Acquisition%20Group,%20to%20explore%20how%20HR%20leaders%20can%20adopt%20AI%20without%20sacrificing%20the%20human%20connection%20that%20defines%20their%20organization.%20With%20over%20a%20decade%20of%20experience%20leading%20HR%20strategy%20in%20high-growth,%20direct-to-consumer%20environments,%20Amaan%20shares%20how%20his%20team%20balances%20efficiency,%20empathy,%20and%20scale%20in%20a%20world%20increasingly%20shaped%20by%20technology.%20%20Amaan%20explains%20why%20his%20organization%20is%20intentionally%20cautious%20about%20where%20AI%20shows%20up%20and%20where%20it%20does%20not.%20He%20outlines%20a%20clear%20guardrail%20that%20guides%20every%20technology%20decision:%20AI%20can%20improve%20speed,%20consistency,%20and%20insight,%20but%20it%20should%20never%20replace%20the%20core%20human%20relationships%20that%20drive%20performance,%20trust,%20and%20differentiation.%20From%20recruiting%20and%20coaching%20to%20sales%20enablement,%20he%20shares%20how%20a%20hybrid%20model%20allows%20AI%20to%20augment%20work%20without%20eroding%20what%20makes%20the%20business%20successful.%20%20The%20conversation%20also%20explores%20recruiting%20and%20managing%20Gen%20Z%20in%20high-touch,%20in-person%20roles.%20Amaan%20discusses%20how%20generational%20shifts,%20post-pandemic%20expectations,%20and%20increased%20access%20to%20information%20are%20changing%20how%20candidates%20evaluate%20employers.%20He%20explains%20why%20adapting%20leadership%20style%20matters%20more%20than%20trying%20to%20change%20the%20workforce,%20and%20how%20culture,%20growth%20opportunity,%20and%20human%20connection%20remain%20powerful%20advantages%20even%20in%20a%20tech-saturated%20market.%20%20Topics%20Discussed:%20%20Protecting%20human%20connection%20as%20a%20core%20business%20and%20HR%20value%20Being%20strategic,%20not%20reactive,%20with%20AI%20adoption%20Where%20AI%20can%20improve%20efficiency%20without%20replacing%20judgment%20Using%20AI%20for%20coaching,%20feedback,%20and%20skill%20development%20Recruiting%20and%20engaging%20Gen%20Z%20for%20non-remote,%20high-touch%20roles%20Adapting%20leadership%20styles%20to%20generational%20shifts%20Creating%20guardrails%20for%20HR%20technology%20decisions%20Balancing%20productivity%20gains%20with%20long-term%20culture%20and%20trust%20%20If%20you%20are%20an%20HR%20leader,%20people%20strategist,%20or%20executive%20navigating%20AI%20adoption%20while%20trying%20to%20preserve%20culture,%20credibility,%20and%20human%20connection,%20this%20episode%20offers%20a%20practical%20and%20grounded%20perspective%20on%20how%20to%20do%20both%20well.%20%20Additional%20Resources:%20%20Cleary%E2%80%99s%20AI-powered%20HR%20Chatbot%20Future%20Proof%20HR%20Community%20Connect%20with%20Amaan%20Hussain%20on%20LinkedIn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Acquisition Group,</a> to explore how HR leaders can adopt AI without sacrificing the human connection that defines their organization. With over a decade of experience leading HR strategy in high-growth, direct-to-consumer environments, Amaan shares how his team balances efficiency, empathy, and scale in a world increasingly shaped by technology.</p><p>Amaan explains why his organization is intentionally cautious about where AI shows up and where it does not. He outlines a clear guardrail that guides every technology decision: AI can improve speed, consistency, and insight, but it should never replace the core human relationships that drive performance, trust, and differentiation. From recruiting and coaching to sales enablement, he shares how a hybrid model allows AI to augment work without eroding what makes the business successful.</p><p>The conversation also explores recruiting and managing Gen Z in high-touch, in-person roles. Amaan discusses how generational shifts, post-pandemic expectations, and increased access to information are changing how candidates evaluate employers. He explains why adapting leadership style matters more than trying to change the workforce, and how culture, growth opportunity, and human connection remain powerful advantages even in a tech-saturated market.</p><p>Topics Discussed:</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Protecting human connection as a core business and HR value</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Being strategic, not reactive, with AI adoption</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Where AI can improve efficiency without replacing judgment</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Using AI for coaching, feedback, and skill development</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Recruiting and engaging Gen Z for non-remote, high-touch roles</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Adapting leadership styles to generational shifts</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Creating guardrails for HR technology decisions</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Balancing productivity gains with long-term culture and trust</li></ol><br/><p>If you are an HR leader, people strategist, or executive navigating AI adoption while trying to preserve culture, credibility, and human connection, this episode offers a practical and grounded perspective on how to do both well.</p><p>Additional Resources:</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/amaanhussain/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Amaan Hussain on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">daa9c2f9-1315-48d0-bb03-af7ca5696b45</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2026 09:54:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/daa9c2f9-1315-48d0-bb03-af7ca5696b45.mp3" length="52343785" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>43:37</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>43</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>43</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/8a2d1d4f-d732-4989-a064-e7a59c60f04c/transcript.json" type="application/json"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/8a2d1d4f-d732-4989-a064-e7a59c60f04c/transcript.srt" type="application/srt" rel="captions"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/8a2d1d4f-d732-4989-a064-e7a59c60f04c/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>Judgment Over Tools: Leading HR Through the AI Noise</title><itunes:title>Judgment Over Tools: Leading HR Through the AI Noise</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Jamie Rivero, HR Director at <a href="https://www.mycomechanical.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MYCO Mechanical, Inc.</a>, to explore what disciplined HR leadership looks like in a rapidly changing environment. Drawing on nearly two decades of experience across manufacturing, logistics, healthcare, retail, and construction, Jamie shares how HR leaders can navigate AI adoption and major system decisions without losing credibility or trust.</p><p>Jamie explains why moving too fast on AI and HR technology often creates more problems than it solves. She unpacks the importance of understanding the business before evaluating tools, pressure-testing vendor claims, and building ROI cases that connect time saved to real business outcomes rather than surface-level efficiency metrics.</p><p>The conversation also examines where AI can support HR teams and where human judgment must remain central. Jamie outlines how HR leaders can reduce low-value work with technology while protecting high-stakes decisions like hiring, performance management, and employee relations, offering a grounded view of what it takes to lead HR through ongoing change.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why HR leadership today requires judgment, not just tools</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Slowing down AI adoption to avoid costly implementation mistakes</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Evaluating HR technology through a true business lens</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Building credible ROI cases that executives trust</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Lessons learned from failed or delayed HR system implementations</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Negotiating vendor contracts and protecting leverage during implementation</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Where AI belongs in HR and where humans must stay in the loop</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Preparing HR teams for continuous change without eroding trust</li></ol><br/><p>If you are an HR leader, people strategist, or executive navigating AI, HR technology, and constant change, this episode offers practical insight into how experienced HR leaders make decisions that stand the test of time.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamie-rivero-mshrd-phr-shrm-cp-8391ab20/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Jamie Rivero on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Jamie Rivero, HR Director at <a href="https://www.mycomechanical.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MYCO Mechanical, Inc.</a>, to explore what disciplined HR leadership looks like in a rapidly changing environment. Drawing on nearly two decades of experience across manufacturing, logistics, healthcare, retail, and construction, Jamie shares how HR leaders can navigate AI adoption and major system decisions without losing credibility or trust.</p><p>Jamie explains why moving too fast on AI and HR technology often creates more problems than it solves. She unpacks the importance of understanding the business before evaluating tools, pressure-testing vendor claims, and building ROI cases that connect time saved to real business outcomes rather than surface-level efficiency metrics.</p><p>The conversation also examines where AI can support HR teams and where human judgment must remain central. Jamie outlines how HR leaders can reduce low-value work with technology while protecting high-stakes decisions like hiring, performance management, and employee relations, offering a grounded view of what it takes to lead HR through ongoing change.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why HR leadership today requires judgment, not just tools</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Slowing down AI adoption to avoid costly implementation mistakes</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Evaluating HR technology through a true business lens</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Building credible ROI cases that executives trust</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Lessons learned from failed or delayed HR system implementations</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Negotiating vendor contracts and protecting leverage during implementation</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Where AI belongs in HR and where humans must stay in the loop</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Preparing HR teams for continuous change without eroding trust</li></ol><br/><p>If you are an HR leader, people strategist, or executive navigating AI, HR technology, and constant change, this episode offers practical insight into how experienced HR leaders make decisions that stand the test of time.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamie-rivero-mshrd-phr-shrm-cp-8391ab20/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Jamie Rivero on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">da54a8f7-6a69-4a34-9d3b-e6e885760a23</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2026 07:43:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/da54a8f7-6a69-4a34-9d3b-e6e885760a23.mp3" length="46104177" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>38:25</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>42</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>42</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/ace9083d-ddfd-4052-b12c-0d0fe9783123/transcript.json" type="application/json"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/ace9083d-ddfd-4052-b12c-0d0fe9783123/transcript.srt" type="application/srt" rel="captions"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/ace9083d-ddfd-4052-b12c-0d0fe9783123/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>From Service to Predictive: How HR Leads AI as Business Strategy</title><itunes:title>From Service to Predictive: How HR Leads AI as Business Strategy</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Jessica DeLorenzo, Chief Human Resources Officer at <strong><a href="http://www.kimballelectronics.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kimball Electronics</a></strong>, to explore how HR leaders can guide AI adoption as a business transformation, not just a technology rollout. Drawing from her non-traditional path into HR and nearly a decade inside a global, low-margin manufacturing organization, Jessica shares how HR can move from reactive service delivery to predictive, value-adding leadership.</p><p>Jessica explains why she pushes back on the idea of having an “AI strategy” in isolation, and instead frames AI as an enabler of broader business strategy, from margin expansion and decision-making to workforce capability and meaningful work. She walks through how Kimball approaches AI adoption thoughtfully and selectively, balancing experimentation with governance, cost discipline, and real-world operational complexity.</p><p>This episode offers a grounded look at what it takes to lead AI change inside a complex, regulated manufacturing environment, where processes are imperfect, audits are real, and transformation must deliver value without eroding trust.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Moving HR from service delivery to predictive, strategic leadership</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why AI strategy should be treated as a business strategy</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Using AI as a teammate, not a replacement</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Protecting the human in the loop during AI adoption</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Lowering fear and resistance through play and experimentation</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Building AI capability responsibly in low-margin organizations</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Selective licensing, early adopters, and managing AI ROI</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Safeguarding high-potential talent during experimentation</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>HR’s evolving role as a predictor, advisor, and change partner</li></ol><br/><p>If you’re an HR leader, people strategist, or executive navigating AI adoption inside a complex organization, this episode offers practical insight into how HR can lead transformation while keeping humans, trust, and long-term value at the center.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicadelorenzo/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Jessica DeLorenzo on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Jessica DeLorenzo, Chief Human Resources Officer at <strong><a href="http://www.kimballelectronics.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kimball Electronics</a></strong>, to explore how HR leaders can guide AI adoption as a business transformation, not just a technology rollout. Drawing from her non-traditional path into HR and nearly a decade inside a global, low-margin manufacturing organization, Jessica shares how HR can move from reactive service delivery to predictive, value-adding leadership.</p><p>Jessica explains why she pushes back on the idea of having an “AI strategy” in isolation, and instead frames AI as an enabler of broader business strategy, from margin expansion and decision-making to workforce capability and meaningful work. She walks through how Kimball approaches AI adoption thoughtfully and selectively, balancing experimentation with governance, cost discipline, and real-world operational complexity.</p><p>This episode offers a grounded look at what it takes to lead AI change inside a complex, regulated manufacturing environment, where processes are imperfect, audits are real, and transformation must deliver value without eroding trust.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Moving HR from service delivery to predictive, strategic leadership</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why AI strategy should be treated as a business strategy</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Using AI as a teammate, not a replacement</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Protecting the human in the loop during AI adoption</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Lowering fear and resistance through play and experimentation</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Building AI capability responsibly in low-margin organizations</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Selective licensing, early adopters, and managing AI ROI</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Safeguarding high-potential talent during experimentation</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>HR’s evolving role as a predictor, advisor, and change partner</li></ol><br/><p>If you’re an HR leader, people strategist, or executive navigating AI adoption inside a complex organization, this episode offers practical insight into how HR can lead transformation while keeping humans, trust, and long-term value at the center.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicadelorenzo/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Jessica DeLorenzo on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">25ad1c89-5edf-4976-9608-9e604cf214a7</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2026 15:12:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/25ad1c89-5edf-4976-9608-9e604cf214a7.mp3" length="52109728" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>43:25</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>41</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>41</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/c9cbf7b7-537c-4da6-bd3d-49fe20c80525/transcript.json" type="application/json"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/c9cbf7b7-537c-4da6-bd3d-49fe20c80525/transcript.srt" type="application/srt" rel="captions"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/c9cbf7b7-537c-4da6-bd3d-49fe20c80525/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>Future-Proofing HR in a High-Risk Industry: Lessons from the Power Grid</title><itunes:title>Future-Proofing HR in a High-Risk Industry: Lessons from the Power Grid</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the&nbsp;Future Proof HR&nbsp;podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with&nbsp;Amy Johnston, Head of People and Capability at <a href="https://www.oriongroup.co.nz/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Orion New Zealand Ltd.</strong></a>, to explore what it really takes to future-proof HR inside a high-risk, highly regulated industry undergoing massive transformation. As electricity demand accelerates due to electrification, sustainability goals, and AI-driven data centers, Amy shares how HR plays a critical role in keeping people safe, workforces resilient, and organizations ready for what’s coming next.</p><p>Amy explains how Orion is using AI responsibly across People &amp; Culture and operational teams, why HR became a “safe place to play” for AI experimentation, and how governance, privacy, and employee trust shape every deployment. She walks through real-world examples, from tier-zero automation that reduced employee service requests by 50%, to AI-assisted drone inspections that improve safety on the power network.</p><p>This episode offers a rare look at HR leadership where mistakes carry real-world consequences, and where future-proofing means balancing innovation, safety, dignity, and long-term workforce planning.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>Why HR can be a safe starting point for AI adoption in high-risk industries</li><li>AI governance, privacy, and employee communication in regulated environments</li><li>Using AI to automate tier-zero HR support and reduce service demand</li><li>Improving safety through AI-assisted inspections and operational workflows</li><li>Workforce challenges driven by electrification and AI-related energy demand</li><li>Retaining institutional knowledge through transition-to-retirement programs</li><li>Treating retirees as paid alumni, coaches, and mentors</li><li>Building diverse talent pipelines through STEM and early-career programs</li><li>Industry-wide collaboration to solve shared workforce shortages</li><li>What it truly means to future-proof HR when the lights have to stay on</li></ul><br/><p>If you’re an HR leader, people strategist, or operator working in a regulated, safety-critical, or infrastructure-heavy environment, this episode offers practical insight into how HR can lead through disruption without compromising trust, safety, or human connection.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Podcast</a></li><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/amy-johnston-cphr-22633834/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Amy Johnston on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the&nbsp;Future Proof HR&nbsp;podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with&nbsp;Amy Johnston, Head of People and Capability at <a href="https://www.oriongroup.co.nz/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Orion New Zealand Ltd.</strong></a>, to explore what it really takes to future-proof HR inside a high-risk, highly regulated industry undergoing massive transformation. As electricity demand accelerates due to electrification, sustainability goals, and AI-driven data centers, Amy shares how HR plays a critical role in keeping people safe, workforces resilient, and organizations ready for what’s coming next.</p><p>Amy explains how Orion is using AI responsibly across People &amp; Culture and operational teams, why HR became a “safe place to play” for AI experimentation, and how governance, privacy, and employee trust shape every deployment. She walks through real-world examples, from tier-zero automation that reduced employee service requests by 50%, to AI-assisted drone inspections that improve safety on the power network.</p><p>This episode offers a rare look at HR leadership where mistakes carry real-world consequences, and where future-proofing means balancing innovation, safety, dignity, and long-term workforce planning.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>Why HR can be a safe starting point for AI adoption in high-risk industries</li><li>AI governance, privacy, and employee communication in regulated environments</li><li>Using AI to automate tier-zero HR support and reduce service demand</li><li>Improving safety through AI-assisted inspections and operational workflows</li><li>Workforce challenges driven by electrification and AI-related energy demand</li><li>Retaining institutional knowledge through transition-to-retirement programs</li><li>Treating retirees as paid alumni, coaches, and mentors</li><li>Building diverse talent pipelines through STEM and early-career programs</li><li>Industry-wide collaboration to solve shared workforce shortages</li><li>What it truly means to future-proof HR when the lights have to stay on</li></ul><br/><p>If you’re an HR leader, people strategist, or operator working in a regulated, safety-critical, or infrastructure-heavy environment, this episode offers practical insight into how HR can lead through disruption without compromising trust, safety, or human connection.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Podcast</a></li><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/amy-johnston-cphr-22633834/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Amy Johnston on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">02f2d34e-d143-4996-b1de-dfe0c0bea80b</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2025 15:13:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/02f2d34e-d143-4996-b1de-dfe0c0bea80b.mp3" length="43359752" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>36:08</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>40</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>40</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/1ab982b6-a2ac-4c29-a540-682f5d1e952c/transcript.json" type="application/json"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/1ab982b6-a2ac-4c29-a540-682f5d1e952c/transcript.srt" type="application/srt" rel="captions"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/1ab982b6-a2ac-4c29-a540-682f5d1e952c/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>Future-Proof HR Isn’t About Tools: Learning, Judgment, and Communication</title><itunes:title>Future-Proof HR Isn’t About Tools: Learning, Judgment, and Communication</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Diana Alvis, VP of HR at Crown Capital MGMT, to discuss what it actually takes to future-proof HR beyond tools, hype, and fear. With more than 20 years of experience across retail, public sector, healthcare, immigration law, and construction, Diana brings a grounded, operator-first perspective on learning, judgment, and using AI responsibly to raise the quality of HR work.</p><p>Diana shares how HR fundamentals translate across industries, why continuous learning is the real career advantage, and how AI can remove friction from daily workflows without replacing human judgment. She explains how she uses AI for job descriptions, bilingual communication, research, documentation, training design, and recruiting support, while drawing clear boundaries around confidentiality, governance, and what should never be automated.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Throughout the conversation, Diana breaks down how she enables managers to be more self-sufficient, why communication is the most important skill for both humans and AI, and when live, human-led training matters more than efficiency. She also challenges assumptions about degrees in HR, discusses the balance of responsibility between HR and management, and explains how AI raises the floor rather than replacing roles.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>Why HR skills are transferable across industries</li><li>The importance of a learning mindset in adapting to AI and change</li><li>How AI increases productivity in everyday HR workflows</li><li>Clear governance boundaries and protecting confidential information</li><li>Using AI for job descriptions, bilingual communication, research, and documentation</li><li>Manager enablement and why managers should own people decisions</li><li>Communication is the most critical future-proof skill</li><li>Human-led training versus passive, automated learning</li><li>Why AI raises the floor instead of replacing HR or recruiting roles</li><li>How HR teams can adopt AI at their own pace without fear</li></ul><br/><p>If you’re an HR leader, operator, or manager navigating AI adoption while staying grounded in judgment, communication, and human connection, this episode offers practical insight, real-world examples, and a clear philosophy for building an HR function that lasts.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dianalalvis/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Diana Alvis on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Diana Alvis, VP of HR at Crown Capital MGMT, to discuss what it actually takes to future-proof HR beyond tools, hype, and fear. With more than 20 years of experience across retail, public sector, healthcare, immigration law, and construction, Diana brings a grounded, operator-first perspective on learning, judgment, and using AI responsibly to raise the quality of HR work.</p><p>Diana shares how HR fundamentals translate across industries, why continuous learning is the real career advantage, and how AI can remove friction from daily workflows without replacing human judgment. She explains how she uses AI for job descriptions, bilingual communication, research, documentation, training design, and recruiting support, while drawing clear boundaries around confidentiality, governance, and what should never be automated.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Throughout the conversation, Diana breaks down how she enables managers to be more self-sufficient, why communication is the most important skill for both humans and AI, and when live, human-led training matters more than efficiency. She also challenges assumptions about degrees in HR, discusses the balance of responsibility between HR and management, and explains how AI raises the floor rather than replacing roles.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>Why HR skills are transferable across industries</li><li>The importance of a learning mindset in adapting to AI and change</li><li>How AI increases productivity in everyday HR workflows</li><li>Clear governance boundaries and protecting confidential information</li><li>Using AI for job descriptions, bilingual communication, research, and documentation</li><li>Manager enablement and why managers should own people decisions</li><li>Communication is the most critical future-proof skill</li><li>Human-led training versus passive, automated learning</li><li>Why AI raises the floor instead of replacing HR or recruiting roles</li><li>How HR teams can adopt AI at their own pace without fear</li></ul><br/><p>If you’re an HR leader, operator, or manager navigating AI adoption while staying grounded in judgment, communication, and human connection, this episode offers practical insight, real-world examples, and a clear philosophy for building an HR function that lasts.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dianalalvis/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Diana Alvis on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">01594438-cc7a-4269-81c0-b585311d25da</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2025 14:58:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/01594438-cc7a-4269-81c0-b585311d25da.mp3" length="37216854" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>38:46</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>39</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>39</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>People First, AI Forward: Rethinking HR for a Faster, Smarter Future</title><itunes:title>People First, AI Forward: Rethinking HR for a Faster, Smarter Future</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Julie Fonzo, Senior Vice President of Human Resources at <a href="https://www.fivestarbreaktime.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Five Star Breaktime Solutions</a>, to discuss how HR can move fast with AI while staying grounded in real human connection. With experience across startups, turnarounds, growth environments, and M&amp;A, Julie brings a business operator mindset and a clear approach to using technology to elevate not replace the employee experience.</p><p>Julie shares how her team supports thousands of frontline employees, why multiple communication channels matter, and how tech-enabled workflows free HR for more meaningful interactions. She also breaks down her build versus buy decisions, the closed-loop systems that safeguard data, and when she intentionally slows down because the risks outweigh the reward.</p><p>Throughout the conversation, she offers practical examples from using AI in job descriptions, communications, ER documentation, training, and early recruiting steps and explains how she brings her team along with confidence, clarity, and smart experimentation.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>Why HR can and should be the first function to ship AI</li><li>How to balance efficient answers with person-to-person interaction</li><li>What it takes to communicate with a large frontline workforce</li><li>How closed-loop systems and layered controls protect sensitive data</li><li>When to build internal tools instead of spending on external vendors</li><li>How AI helps with job descriptions, ER workflows, training modules, and internal communication</li><li>Why human touch still matters in onboarding and parts of recruiting</li><li>How to bring HR teams along through change and build confidence</li><li>The value of failing fast, learning quickly, and moving forward with intention</li></ul><br/><p>If you’re responsible for helping HR teams modernize, remove friction, and use technology to improve both operations and human connection, this episode gives you real examples, strategic clarity, and a mindset for leading in a world that isn’t slowing down.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><p><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></p><p><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliefonzo/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Julie Fonzo on LinkedIn</a></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Julie Fonzo, Senior Vice President of Human Resources at <a href="https://www.fivestarbreaktime.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Five Star Breaktime Solutions</a>, to discuss how HR can move fast with AI while staying grounded in real human connection. With experience across startups, turnarounds, growth environments, and M&amp;A, Julie brings a business operator mindset and a clear approach to using technology to elevate not replace the employee experience.</p><p>Julie shares how her team supports thousands of frontline employees, why multiple communication channels matter, and how tech-enabled workflows free HR for more meaningful interactions. She also breaks down her build versus buy decisions, the closed-loop systems that safeguard data, and when she intentionally slows down because the risks outweigh the reward.</p><p>Throughout the conversation, she offers practical examples from using AI in job descriptions, communications, ER documentation, training, and early recruiting steps and explains how she brings her team along with confidence, clarity, and smart experimentation.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>Why HR can and should be the first function to ship AI</li><li>How to balance efficient answers with person-to-person interaction</li><li>What it takes to communicate with a large frontline workforce</li><li>How closed-loop systems and layered controls protect sensitive data</li><li>When to build internal tools instead of spending on external vendors</li><li>How AI helps with job descriptions, ER workflows, training modules, and internal communication</li><li>Why human touch still matters in onboarding and parts of recruiting</li><li>How to bring HR teams along through change and build confidence</li><li>The value of failing fast, learning quickly, and moving forward with intention</li></ul><br/><p>If you’re responsible for helping HR teams modernize, remove friction, and use technology to improve both operations and human connection, this episode gives you real examples, strategic clarity, and a mindset for leading in a world that isn’t slowing down.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><p><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></p><p><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliefonzo/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Julie Fonzo on LinkedIn</a></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">f722418b-d0ac-437e-9135-867dfb1724a5</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2025 03:08:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/f722418b-d0ac-437e-9135-867dfb1724a5.mp3" length="45837269" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>47:45</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>38</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>38</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>Learning, Thinking, Adapting: The Human Skills That Keep HR Evolving</title><itunes:title>Learning, Thinking, Adapting: The Human Skills That Keep HR Evolving</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Marta Vittini, Vice President of Human Resources at <a href="https://RenovationBrands" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Renovation Brands</a>, to explore the human skills HR leaders must protect as technology accelerates change across every part of the workplace. Drawing on experience leading acquisitions, shaping culture across distributed teams, and driving AI adoption from the inside, Marta reflects on what it now takes for HR to stay sharp, relevant, and trusted in a world where tools evolve faster than people.</p><p>Marta shares how critical thinking, continuous learning, and business fluency have become essential capabilities for every HR professional, and why relying too heavily on automation can quietly erode the judgment that leaders need most. She talks about the rapid AI transformation inside her organization, including how the CEO championed company-wide experimentation, how an internal AI Innovation Award reshaped behavior, and how HR monitors engagement to support hesitant adopters without shame or fear.</p><p>She also revisits lessons from leading multiple acquisitions, explaining why integration is never truly complete, why communication routines hold cultures together, and how HR can guide organizations through disruption with structure, empathy, and intention.</p><h3><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></h3><ul><li>Why learning, thinking, and adapting have become non-negotiable for HR’s long-term relevance</li><li>How HR can preserve human judgment while still embracing AI as a daily tool</li><li>The risks of over-reliance on AI and how critical thinking weakens when unused</li><li>How an AI Innovation Award encouraged cross-functional experimentation</li><li>Why training, communication, and coaching are essential in driving AI adoption</li><li>What HR should monitor to understand true engagement with new tools</li><li>How continuous onboarding and recognition sustain connection after acquisitions</li><li>Why culture integration takes time and how communication shapes that experience</li><li>How HR leaders can bring valuable insights to due diligence and early deal conversations</li><li>Why understanding the business, financials, and performance drivers future-proofs HR careers</li></ul><br/><p>If you're responsible for helping people and organizations grow through change, this episode gives you perspective, examples, and practical insight on how to stay grounded, stay human, and stay ready in a landscape that is shifting faster than ever.</p><h3><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></h3><ul><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mvittini/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Marta Vittini on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Marta Vittini, Vice President of Human Resources at <a href="https://RenovationBrands" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Renovation Brands</a>, to explore the human skills HR leaders must protect as technology accelerates change across every part of the workplace. Drawing on experience leading acquisitions, shaping culture across distributed teams, and driving AI adoption from the inside, Marta reflects on what it now takes for HR to stay sharp, relevant, and trusted in a world where tools evolve faster than people.</p><p>Marta shares how critical thinking, continuous learning, and business fluency have become essential capabilities for every HR professional, and why relying too heavily on automation can quietly erode the judgment that leaders need most. She talks about the rapid AI transformation inside her organization, including how the CEO championed company-wide experimentation, how an internal AI Innovation Award reshaped behavior, and how HR monitors engagement to support hesitant adopters without shame or fear.</p><p>She also revisits lessons from leading multiple acquisitions, explaining why integration is never truly complete, why communication routines hold cultures together, and how HR can guide organizations through disruption with structure, empathy, and intention.</p><h3><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></h3><ul><li>Why learning, thinking, and adapting have become non-negotiable for HR’s long-term relevance</li><li>How HR can preserve human judgment while still embracing AI as a daily tool</li><li>The risks of over-reliance on AI and how critical thinking weakens when unused</li><li>How an AI Innovation Award encouraged cross-functional experimentation</li><li>Why training, communication, and coaching are essential in driving AI adoption</li><li>What HR should monitor to understand true engagement with new tools</li><li>How continuous onboarding and recognition sustain connection after acquisitions</li><li>Why culture integration takes time and how communication shapes that experience</li><li>How HR leaders can bring valuable insights to due diligence and early deal conversations</li><li>Why understanding the business, financials, and performance drivers future-proofs HR careers</li></ul><br/><p>If you're responsible for helping people and organizations grow through change, this episode gives you perspective, examples, and practical insight on how to stay grounded, stay human, and stay ready in a landscape that is shifting faster than ever.</p><h3><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></h3><ul><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mvittini/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Marta Vittini on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">7a7987df-48ee-4963-a209-1d276963c1e1</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2025 16:16:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/7a7987df-48ee-4963-a209-1d276963c1e1.mp3" length="43143942" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>44:56</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>37</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>37</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>The Business Athletes: How HR Leaders Bring AI to Life Without the Hype</title><itunes:title>The Business Athletes: How HR Leaders Bring AI to Life Without the Hype</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Shari Chernack, Chief People Officer at <a href="https://www.imsearch.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Isaacson Miller</a> and an ICF-certified executive coach, to unpack what it now takes for HR to operate as true business athletes in the age of AI. Drawing on experience across Fortune 100, PE, and VC-backed environments, Shari talks about how the CHRO role has shifted from administrative support to strategic leadership and why HR leaders can’t afford to stay on the sidelines as AI reshapes every workflow, capability, and expectation inside the organization.</p><p>Shari breaks down how performance management and learning have become HR’s most powerful levers for driving AI adoption, why some moments in the employee journey should stay high-touch even as automation grows, and how pilots, redeployment, and risk matrices help organizations adopt AI without unintentionally damaging culture, talent, or trust. </p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>Why the CHRO role has evolved from administration to strategy and now to business athlete expectations</li><li>The skill gaps CHROs themselves say they wish they had closed earlier in their careers</li><li>Why HR must be involved in AI strategy from the start, not brought in at the end to “execute” decisions</li><li>How performance management can accelerate responsible AI adoption through goals, impact, and clarity</li><li>How learning teams can use AI tools to design faster, gather insight quicker, and build real-time capability</li><li>When automation makes sense and when high-touch human support still matters in employee moments</li><li>The risks of replacing people too quickly and the value of thoughtful redeployment</li><li>What pilots reveal about organizational readiness, culture fit, and technology maturity</li><li>How “garbage in, garbage out” applies to HR processes, documentation, and data hygiene</li><li>Why non-linear change with AI requires experimentation, transparency, and shared learning across teams</li></ul><br/><p>If you’re responsible for guiding your organization through AI adoption.  Whether in HR, people operations, or the broader business, this episode gives you concrete examples, decision lenses, and practical ways to shape work without falling into hype or fear.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sharichernack/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Shari Chernack on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Shari Chernack, Chief People Officer at <a href="https://www.imsearch.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Isaacson Miller</a> and an ICF-certified executive coach, to unpack what it now takes for HR to operate as true business athletes in the age of AI. Drawing on experience across Fortune 100, PE, and VC-backed environments, Shari talks about how the CHRO role has shifted from administrative support to strategic leadership and why HR leaders can’t afford to stay on the sidelines as AI reshapes every workflow, capability, and expectation inside the organization.</p><p>Shari breaks down how performance management and learning have become HR’s most powerful levers for driving AI adoption, why some moments in the employee journey should stay high-touch even as automation grows, and how pilots, redeployment, and risk matrices help organizations adopt AI without unintentionally damaging culture, talent, or trust. </p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>Why the CHRO role has evolved from administration to strategy and now to business athlete expectations</li><li>The skill gaps CHROs themselves say they wish they had closed earlier in their careers</li><li>Why HR must be involved in AI strategy from the start, not brought in at the end to “execute” decisions</li><li>How performance management can accelerate responsible AI adoption through goals, impact, and clarity</li><li>How learning teams can use AI tools to design faster, gather insight quicker, and build real-time capability</li><li>When automation makes sense and when high-touch human support still matters in employee moments</li><li>The risks of replacing people too quickly and the value of thoughtful redeployment</li><li>What pilots reveal about organizational readiness, culture fit, and technology maturity</li><li>How “garbage in, garbage out” applies to HR processes, documentation, and data hygiene</li><li>Why non-linear change with AI requires experimentation, transparency, and shared learning across teams</li></ul><br/><p>If you’re responsible for guiding your organization through AI adoption.  Whether in HR, people operations, or the broader business, this episode gives you concrete examples, decision lenses, and practical ways to shape work without falling into hype or fear.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sharichernack/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Shari Chernack on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">49258558-8a08-45dd-b5b4-f3af5b77c3b9</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2025 04:57:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/49258558-8a08-45dd-b5b4-f3af5b77c3b9.mp3" length="46484270" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>48:25</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>36</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>36</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>Co-Creating AI-Ready, Truly Human Workplaces: HR as Strategic Partner, Connector, and Humanist</title><itunes:title>Co-Creating AI-Ready, Truly Human Workplaces: HR as Strategic Partner, Connector, and Humanist</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Nicole Dessain, Founder of The&nbsp;<a href="http://www.talentimperative.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Talent Imperative</a>&nbsp;and curator of the HR Hackathon Alliance, to talk about what it really means for HR to co-create AI-ready, truly human workplaces. Nicole shares how a CEO survey calling CHROs the least AI-savvy in the C-suite sparked her own 30-day AI learning challenge, and how that personal reset turned into a practical blueprint any HR leader can use to build confidence and credibility with AI.</p><p>The conversation looks at AI transformation as a people transformation, the role of human-centered design in shaping employee experience, and how HR can move from overwhelmed by tools to leading the work as strategic partner, connector, and humanist. Thomas and Nicole also dig into why onboarding is such a high-leverage use case for AI, and how freeing HR from manual tasks can actually increase the human touch, not reduce it.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>Why AI transformation is a people transformation, not just a tech rollout</li><li>Nicole’s 30-day AI learning challenge and how HR leaders can build similar daily habits</li><li>What human-centered design looks like in HR and employee experience work</li><li>The four emerging roles for HR in the age of AI: strategic partner, critical thinker, connector, and humanist</li><li>Common barriers to AI adoption, from fear of job loss to vague “everyone must use AI” mandates</li><li>How to use journey mapping and co-creation to identify real AI opportunities in workflows</li><li>Why onboarding is one of the highest-impact moments to redesign with AI and automation</li><li>Partnering with CIOs and the C-suite to balance innovation, risk, and data privacy</li><li>Practical ways HR can earn trust and a stronger voice in company-wide AI decisions</li></ul><br/><p>If you are responsible for helping your HR team become more AI-literate, more strategic, and more focused on high-value human work, this episode gives you language, habits, and concrete starting points to bring back to your organization.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li><a href="http://www.talentimperative.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">HR Hackathon Alliance</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ndessain/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Nicole Dessain on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Nicole Dessain, Founder of The&nbsp;<a href="http://www.talentimperative.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Talent Imperative</a>&nbsp;and curator of the HR Hackathon Alliance, to talk about what it really means for HR to co-create AI-ready, truly human workplaces. Nicole shares how a CEO survey calling CHROs the least AI-savvy in the C-suite sparked her own 30-day AI learning challenge, and how that personal reset turned into a practical blueprint any HR leader can use to build confidence and credibility with AI.</p><p>The conversation looks at AI transformation as a people transformation, the role of human-centered design in shaping employee experience, and how HR can move from overwhelmed by tools to leading the work as strategic partner, connector, and humanist. Thomas and Nicole also dig into why onboarding is such a high-leverage use case for AI, and how freeing HR from manual tasks can actually increase the human touch, not reduce it.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>Why AI transformation is a people transformation, not just a tech rollout</li><li>Nicole’s 30-day AI learning challenge and how HR leaders can build similar daily habits</li><li>What human-centered design looks like in HR and employee experience work</li><li>The four emerging roles for HR in the age of AI: strategic partner, critical thinker, connector, and humanist</li><li>Common barriers to AI adoption, from fear of job loss to vague “everyone must use AI” mandates</li><li>How to use journey mapping and co-creation to identify real AI opportunities in workflows</li><li>Why onboarding is one of the highest-impact moments to redesign with AI and automation</li><li>Partnering with CIOs and the C-suite to balance innovation, risk, and data privacy</li><li>Practical ways HR can earn trust and a stronger voice in company-wide AI decisions</li></ul><br/><p>If you are responsible for helping your HR team become more AI-literate, more strategic, and more focused on high-value human work, this episode gives you language, habits, and concrete starting points to bring back to your organization.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li><a href="http://www.talentimperative.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">HR Hackathon Alliance</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ndessain/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Nicole Dessain on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">a82af043-b8ca-44ef-8017-fe05571c8d89</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2025 15:37:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/a82af043-b8ca-44ef-8017-fe05571c8d89.mp3" length="35853478" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>37:21</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>35</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>35</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>AI in the Middle, Humans in the Lead: Inside a Lean, Analytics-Driven, Disaster-Tested HR Function</title><itunes:title>AI in the Middle, Humans in the Lead: Inside a Lean, Analytics-Driven, Disaster-Tested HR Function</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Leah Pearson, Senior Director of Human Resources at <a href="https://firstonsite.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">First Onsite Property Restoration</a>, to unpack what it really takes to run HR inside a disaster-response organization. Leah shares how her sales background shaped her business-first approach, how she built a culture where employees raise their hands to drive change, and why she believes AI should sit in the middle of the process while humans stay in the lead. She and Thomas dig into practical lessons from experimenting with AI tools, the realities of compliance and data governance across borders, and the shift toward a leaner, more analytics-driven HR team ready for whatever the next crisis brings.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>How Leah’s early sales career shaped her people-first, business-first HR mindset</li><li>The realities of HR inside a disaster restoration company</li><li>Why AI is a tool, not a replacement, for human judgment</li><li>Using automation to eliminate administrative load and free HR for higher-value work</li><li>Building job architecture with AI support and cross-functional collaboration</li><li>The importance of governance, privacy, and data protection across the US and Canada</li><li>Bottom-up innovation: empowering employees to identify inefficiencies and lead projects</li><li>The future HR skillset: tech fluency, analytics, business alignment, and change leadership</li></ul><br/><p>If you’re responsible for evolving your HR function into a more tech-fluent, analytics-aware, and business-aligned partner, this conversation gives you concrete ideas, questions to ask, and skills to prioritize with your team.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/leahpearson01/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Leah Pearson on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Leah Pearson, Senior Director of Human Resources at <a href="https://firstonsite.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">First Onsite Property Restoration</a>, to unpack what it really takes to run HR inside a disaster-response organization. Leah shares how her sales background shaped her business-first approach, how she built a culture where employees raise their hands to drive change, and why she believes AI should sit in the middle of the process while humans stay in the lead. She and Thomas dig into practical lessons from experimenting with AI tools, the realities of compliance and data governance across borders, and the shift toward a leaner, more analytics-driven HR team ready for whatever the next crisis brings.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>How Leah’s early sales career shaped her people-first, business-first HR mindset</li><li>The realities of HR inside a disaster restoration company</li><li>Why AI is a tool, not a replacement, for human judgment</li><li>Using automation to eliminate administrative load and free HR for higher-value work</li><li>Building job architecture with AI support and cross-functional collaboration</li><li>The importance of governance, privacy, and data protection across the US and Canada</li><li>Bottom-up innovation: empowering employees to identify inefficiencies and lead projects</li><li>The future HR skillset: tech fluency, analytics, business alignment, and change leadership</li></ul><br/><p>If you’re responsible for evolving your HR function into a more tech-fluent, analytics-aware, and business-aligned partner, this conversation gives you concrete ideas, questions to ask, and skills to prioritize with your team.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/leahpearson01/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Leah Pearson on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">8a22cb51-8be8-4ad4-8f64-f2cb379cb2f6</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2025 13:04:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/8a22cb51-8be8-4ad4-8f64-f2cb379cb2f6.mp3" length="34034521" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>35:27</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>34</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>34</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>Led by Curiosity: From Accidental HR to Building the Company’s GPT</title><itunes:title>Led by Curiosity: From Accidental HR to Building the Company’s GPT</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Divya Devakran, Director of Human Resources at <a href="https://www.evs-eng.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">EVS Engineering</a>, to trace her path from “accidental” HR to building a company GPT. Divya shares how she built EVS’s HR function from the ground up, why she started a passion project to create an AI-powered policy and coaching bot for her organization, and how she is thinking about psychological safety, guardrails, and the very real time crunch HR teams live in. She and Thomas also look ahead at what will separate tactical HR teams from future-ready HR functions in the next few years.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>How a planned finance career turned into “accidental” HR</li><li>Building an HR department from scratch at EVS Engineering</li><li>Why Divya started building a company GPT as a side project</li><li>Using AI for HR policy questions and anonymous support</li><li>Coaching bots for new managers and real-time guidance</li><li>Guardrails, hallucinations, and knowing when to route back to HR</li><li>The difference between tactical HR and future-ready HR teams</li></ul><br/><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/divyadivakaran/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Divya Devakran on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Divya Devakran, Director of Human Resources at <a href="https://www.evs-eng.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">EVS Engineering</a>, to trace her path from “accidental” HR to building a company GPT. Divya shares how she built EVS’s HR function from the ground up, why she started a passion project to create an AI-powered policy and coaching bot for her organization, and how she is thinking about psychological safety, guardrails, and the very real time crunch HR teams live in. She and Thomas also look ahead at what will separate tactical HR teams from future-ready HR functions in the next few years.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>How a planned finance career turned into “accidental” HR</li><li>Building an HR department from scratch at EVS Engineering</li><li>Why Divya started building a company GPT as a side project</li><li>Using AI for HR policy questions and anonymous support</li><li>Coaching bots for new managers and real-time guidance</li><li>Guardrails, hallucinations, and knowing when to route back to HR</li><li>The difference between tactical HR and future-ready HR teams</li></ul><br/><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/divyadivakaran/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Divya Devakran on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">7aba8576-a3dd-45d4-a417-487d18af2279</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2025 15:11:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/7aba8576-a3dd-45d4-a417-487d18af2279.mp3" length="40882299" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>34:04</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>33</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>33</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/80fb8252-4dab-4ea8-a9a4-ce27acba3b22/transcript.json" type="application/json"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/80fb8252-4dab-4ea8-a9a4-ce27acba3b22/transcript.srt" type="application/srt" rel="captions"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/80fb8252-4dab-4ea8-a9a4-ce27acba3b22/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>Reinventing HR: Courage, Curiosity, and the AI-Ready Workforce</title><itunes:title>Reinventing HR: Courage, Curiosity, and the AI-Ready Workforce</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Alim Dhanji, CHRO at <a href="https://www.tdsynnex.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">TD SYNNEX</a>, whose career spans HR, finance, M&amp;A, and even serving as President of Adidas Canada.</p><p>From leading through supply chain crises to running startups and now driving an AI-first HR transformation, Alim shares how curiosity, simplicity, and critical thinking have shaped his leadership across every function.</p><p>He talks about reimagining HR as a series of products, helping teams overcome fear of AI through experimentation, and building a “super worker” culture—where technology multiplies human capability instead of replacing it.</p><p>Alim also reflects on why this is the most exciting moment to be in HR, how leaders can simplify for impact, and how embracing AI literacy and critical reasoning can redefine the next generation of people leadership.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>Reframing HR as a product-driven function.</li><li>Building an AI-first, digitally enabled HR team.</li><li>Turning resistance to AI into experimentation and learning.</li><li>Simplifying HR programs for real business impact.</li><li>The rise of the “super worker” and the fall of technical gatekeeping.</li><li>Why critical thinking is HR’s most future-proof skill.</li><li>How AI creates capacity for more human leadership.</li></ul><br/><p>If you’re rethinking what it means to lead HR in the age of AI, this conversation with Alim Dhanji offers a rare look at transformation from both sides of the business—where strategy meets empathy, and technology powers people to do their best work.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/adhanji/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Alim Dhanji on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Alim Dhanji, CHRO at <a href="https://www.tdsynnex.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">TD SYNNEX</a>, whose career spans HR, finance, M&amp;A, and even serving as President of Adidas Canada.</p><p>From leading through supply chain crises to running startups and now driving an AI-first HR transformation, Alim shares how curiosity, simplicity, and critical thinking have shaped his leadership across every function.</p><p>He talks about reimagining HR as a series of products, helping teams overcome fear of AI through experimentation, and building a “super worker” culture—where technology multiplies human capability instead of replacing it.</p><p>Alim also reflects on why this is the most exciting moment to be in HR, how leaders can simplify for impact, and how embracing AI literacy and critical reasoning can redefine the next generation of people leadership.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>Reframing HR as a product-driven function.</li><li>Building an AI-first, digitally enabled HR team.</li><li>Turning resistance to AI into experimentation and learning.</li><li>Simplifying HR programs for real business impact.</li><li>The rise of the “super worker” and the fall of technical gatekeeping.</li><li>Why critical thinking is HR’s most future-proof skill.</li><li>How AI creates capacity for more human leadership.</li></ul><br/><p>If you’re rethinking what it means to lead HR in the age of AI, this conversation with Alim Dhanji offers a rare look at transformation from both sides of the business—where strategy meets empathy, and technology powers people to do their best work.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/adhanji/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Alim Dhanji on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid 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url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/95df4b74-5a36-44fc-b057-8df108e64cdf/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>Human at the Core: How HR and AI Drive Care, Culture, and Change</title><itunes:title>Human at the Core: How HR and AI Drive Care, Culture, and Change</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Omar Alhadi, Senior HR Director at&nbsp;<a href="https://adobepophealth.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adobe Population Health(APH)</a>, a rapidly scaling, multi-state healthcare provider redefining how proactive, human-centered care is delivered.</p><p>From leading HR as a one-person operation to shaping a strategic function that bridges AI, culture, and clinical innovation, Omar shares how he’s building an HR model where technology amplifies human connection instead of replacing it.</p><p>He talks about transforming change management into a continuous habit, using data as a catalyst for empathy, and navigating the complexities of growth, acquisitions, and frontline care. Omar also unpacks how HR can champion innovation from within, not by imposing tools, but by building trust, piloting ideas, and letting adoption grow organically across teams.</p><p>Topics Discussed:</p><ul><li>Embedding AI into healthcare workflows without losing the human touch.</li><li>Scaling HR from tactical support to strategic business partner.</li><li>Turning data into a tool for empathy, insight, and efficiency.</li><li>Building change-ready cultures in fast-moving, high-impact industries.</li><li>Managing acquisitions through research, communication, and care.</li><li>Why the future of HR lies in combining high-tech systems with high-touch leadership.</li></ul><br/><p>If you’re exploring how HR can drive transformation while keeping people at the center, this conversation offers a rare look at innovation grounded in humanity where care, culture, and change move forward together.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary's AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/omar-alhadi-shrm-cp-87159128/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Omar Alhadi on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Omar Alhadi, Senior HR Director at&nbsp;<a href="https://adobepophealth.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adobe Population Health(APH)</a>, a rapidly scaling, multi-state healthcare provider redefining how proactive, human-centered care is delivered.</p><p>From leading HR as a one-person operation to shaping a strategic function that bridges AI, culture, and clinical innovation, Omar shares how he’s building an HR model where technology amplifies human connection instead of replacing it.</p><p>He talks about transforming change management into a continuous habit, using data as a catalyst for empathy, and navigating the complexities of growth, acquisitions, and frontline care. Omar also unpacks how HR can champion innovation from within, not by imposing tools, but by building trust, piloting ideas, and letting adoption grow organically across teams.</p><p>Topics Discussed:</p><ul><li>Embedding AI into healthcare workflows without losing the human touch.</li><li>Scaling HR from tactical support to strategic business partner.</li><li>Turning data into a tool for empathy, insight, and efficiency.</li><li>Building change-ready cultures in fast-moving, high-impact industries.</li><li>Managing acquisitions through research, communication, and care.</li><li>Why the future of HR lies in combining high-tech systems with high-touch leadership.</li></ul><br/><p>If you’re exploring how HR can drive transformation while keeping people at the center, this conversation offers a rare look at innovation grounded in humanity where care, culture, and change move forward together.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary's AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/omar-alhadi-shrm-cp-87159128/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Omar Alhadi on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">3a7da1db-8c06-44de-9f73-0f75595aafdb</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2025 11:21:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/3a7da1db-8c06-44de-9f73-0f75595aafdb.mp3" length="41378626" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>34:29</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>30</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>30</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/abbffc6a-e119-4a1f-b7d3-068ed0ffa388/transcript.json" type="application/json"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/abbffc6a-e119-4a1f-b7d3-068ed0ffa388/transcript.srt" type="application/srt" rel="captions"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/abbffc6a-e119-4a1f-b7d3-068ed0ffa388/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>Spreadsheets, Stories, and Strategy: What Moves HR Forward with AI</title><itunes:title>Spreadsheets, Stories, and Strategy: What Moves HR Forward with AI</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Spandana Suddapalli, Head of People at <a href="https://vidmob.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Vidmob</strong></a>, whose career bridges analytics, leadership, and culture building across global tech and high-growth startups. Known for her ability to combine human insight with data-driven decision-making, Spandana unpacks what it really takes to build an HR function that’s both strategic and emotionally intelligent in the age of AI.</p><p>From transforming recruiting guardrails to crafting practical AI policies, Spandana shares how her team at Vidmob is shaping the future of work one deliberate choice at a time. She talks about the tension between efficiency and empathy, the power of storytelling in data conversations, and why adaptability, not automation, is the ultimate leadership skill.</p><p>She also explains how HR leaders can use AI without losing their judgment, turn uncertainty into thoughtful experimentation, and bring a human voice into every decision that involves technology.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>Building a balance between automation, empathy, and business impact.</li><li>How data storytelling helps HR influence executive decisions.</li><li>Creating responsible AI policies that strengthen trust and compliance.</li><li>The evolving meaning of performance in dynamic, AI-integrated workplaces.</li><li>Turning resistance into readiness: coaching teams through rapid change.</li><li>Why emotional fluency and technical literacy now define modern HR leadership.</li></ul><br/><p>If you’re reimagining how HR can move from reactive to strategic while staying deeply human, this episode offers a grounded look at what truly moves the function forward.</p><p>Additional Resources:</p><ul><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ssuddapalli03/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Spandana Suddapalli on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Spandana Suddapalli, Head of People at <a href="https://vidmob.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Vidmob</strong></a>, whose career bridges analytics, leadership, and culture building across global tech and high-growth startups. Known for her ability to combine human insight with data-driven decision-making, Spandana unpacks what it really takes to build an HR function that’s both strategic and emotionally intelligent in the age of AI.</p><p>From transforming recruiting guardrails to crafting practical AI policies, Spandana shares how her team at Vidmob is shaping the future of work one deliberate choice at a time. She talks about the tension between efficiency and empathy, the power of storytelling in data conversations, and why adaptability, not automation, is the ultimate leadership skill.</p><p>She also explains how HR leaders can use AI without losing their judgment, turn uncertainty into thoughtful experimentation, and bring a human voice into every decision that involves technology.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>Building a balance between automation, empathy, and business impact.</li><li>How data storytelling helps HR influence executive decisions.</li><li>Creating responsible AI policies that strengthen trust and compliance.</li><li>The evolving meaning of performance in dynamic, AI-integrated workplaces.</li><li>Turning resistance into readiness: coaching teams through rapid change.</li><li>Why emotional fluency and technical literacy now define modern HR leadership.</li></ul><br/><p>If you’re reimagining how HR can move from reactive to strategic while staying deeply human, this episode offers a grounded look at what truly moves the function forward.</p><p>Additional Resources:</p><ul><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ssuddapalli03/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Spandana Suddapalli on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">0f51db0c-9d5d-4092-9b3f-da358f1ea186</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2025 11:35:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/0f51db0c-9d5d-4092-9b3f-da358f1ea186.mp3" length="52826005" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>44:01</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>29</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>29</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/0339fb62-e8d5-41e4-a876-232472015b05/transcript.json" type="application/json"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/0339fb62-e8d5-41e4-a876-232472015b05/transcript.srt" type="application/srt" rel="captions"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/0339fb62-e8d5-41e4-a876-232472015b05/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>HR’s New Era: Leading with Data, Empathy, and AI</title><itunes:title>HR’s New Era: Leading with Data, Empathy, and AI</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Ester Gramegna, Head of Human Resources at <a href="https://www.aventumgroup.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Aventum Group</a>, a global leader in reinsurance that’s reimagining what modern HR looks like in an AI-driven workplace.</p><p>Ester brings a global and deeply human perspective to digital transformation, showing how HR can balance analytics, automation, and empathy to guide organizations through change. With a background in research and data, she’s helping Aventum build scalable, people-first systems—turning AI from a source of fear into a tool for empowerment.</p><p>From rethinking succession planning and compliance tracking to redesigning onboarding and recruiting with AI, Ester shares how her team is using technology to give time back to people, strengthen trust, and accelerate growth.</p><p>She and Thomas discuss how HR can lead transformation across industries that have traditionally relied on legacy processes and what it takes to align innovation with culture, business strategy, and human connection.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>How HR can transform fear of AI into trust and empowerment.</li><li>Building transparency and communication into every change initiative.</li><li>Using AI to modernize succession planning and close skills gaps faster.</li><li>Creating seamless onboarding and recruiting experiences with automation.</li><li>Partnering with finance and leadership to prove ROI on AI investments.</li><li>Why people-first transformation starts with upskilling HR itself.</li><li>The evolving role of HR as both a change leader and business strategist.</li></ul><br/><p>If you’re thinking about how to guide your organization through digital transformation without losing the human touch, this conversation offers a practical and inspiring look at how AI can make HR more strategic, more efficient, and more human.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ester-gramegna-ms-shrm-cp-223a79202/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Ester Gramegna on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Ester Gramegna, Head of Human Resources at <a href="https://www.aventumgroup.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Aventum Group</a>, a global leader in reinsurance that’s reimagining what modern HR looks like in an AI-driven workplace.</p><p>Ester brings a global and deeply human perspective to digital transformation, showing how HR can balance analytics, automation, and empathy to guide organizations through change. With a background in research and data, she’s helping Aventum build scalable, people-first systems—turning AI from a source of fear into a tool for empowerment.</p><p>From rethinking succession planning and compliance tracking to redesigning onboarding and recruiting with AI, Ester shares how her team is using technology to give time back to people, strengthen trust, and accelerate growth.</p><p>She and Thomas discuss how HR can lead transformation across industries that have traditionally relied on legacy processes and what it takes to align innovation with culture, business strategy, and human connection.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>How HR can transform fear of AI into trust and empowerment.</li><li>Building transparency and communication into every change initiative.</li><li>Using AI to modernize succession planning and close skills gaps faster.</li><li>Creating seamless onboarding and recruiting experiences with automation.</li><li>Partnering with finance and leadership to prove ROI on AI investments.</li><li>Why people-first transformation starts with upskilling HR itself.</li><li>The evolving role of HR as both a change leader and business strategist.</li></ul><br/><p>If you’re thinking about how to guide your organization through digital transformation without losing the human touch, this conversation offers a practical and inspiring look at how AI can make HR more strategic, more efficient, and more human.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ester-gramegna-ms-shrm-cp-223a79202/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Ester Gramegna on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">729c7def-8d4b-411e-8c00-9550421e1543</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2025 14:00:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/729c7def-8d4b-411e-8c00-9550421e1543.mp3" length="42362397" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>35:18</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>28</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>28</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/edef394f-c1ea-4251-b20b-59f8b16d830b/transcript.json" type="application/json"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/edef394f-c1ea-4251-b20b-59f8b16d830b/transcript.srt" type="application/srt" rel="captions"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/edef394f-c1ea-4251-b20b-59f8b16d830b/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>Stay Curious, Get Creative, Build What’s Next: The Future Proof HR Mindset</title><itunes:title>Stay Curious, Get Creative, Build What’s Next: The Future Proof HR Mindset</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Ken Moses, Chief People Officer at <a href="https://www.cascade-env.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cascade Environmental</a>, whose career spans both high-tech and heavy industry. Known for his experimental mindset and willingness to challenge convention, Ken has turned curiosity into a leadership philosophy; one that’s redefining what HR can look like in an AI-driven world.</p><p>From testing recruiting bots and using AI to analyze engagement surveys to reimagining how internal communications and recognition programs are built, Ken shows how innovation in HR doesn’t have to start with grand strategy; it can begin with a single “what if.”</p><p>Ken shares how he and his team have turned everyday HR challenges into experimentation grounds for smarter, more efficient, and more human-centered practices. He breaks down how to test ideas safely, maintain authenticity while using AI, and bring your team along for the ride.</p><h3><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></h3><ul><li>How curiosity drives innovation across every HR function.</li><li>Using AI to turn time-consuming HR work into faster, higher-impact processes.</li><li>The “augmented, not automated” mindset that keeps HR human.</li><li>Building trust and authenticity when introducing AI-powered tools.</li><li>Finding the ROI in experimentation and scaling what works.</li><li>Why data literacy, creativity, and courage are becoming HR’s must-have skills.</li><li>How HR leaders can carve out time to think differently without waiting for permission.</li></ul><br/><p>If you’re thinking about how to future-proof your HR function through curiosity, creativity, and practical experimentation, this conversation is a roadmap for doing more than keeping up; it’s about building what’s next.</p><h3><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></h3><ul><li>Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</li><li>Future Proof HR Community</li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kenmoses/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Ken Moses on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Ken Moses, Chief People Officer at <a href="https://www.cascade-env.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cascade Environmental</a>, whose career spans both high-tech and heavy industry. Known for his experimental mindset and willingness to challenge convention, Ken has turned curiosity into a leadership philosophy; one that’s redefining what HR can look like in an AI-driven world.</p><p>From testing recruiting bots and using AI to analyze engagement surveys to reimagining how internal communications and recognition programs are built, Ken shows how innovation in HR doesn’t have to start with grand strategy; it can begin with a single “what if.”</p><p>Ken shares how he and his team have turned everyday HR challenges into experimentation grounds for smarter, more efficient, and more human-centered practices. He breaks down how to test ideas safely, maintain authenticity while using AI, and bring your team along for the ride.</p><h3><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></h3><ul><li>How curiosity drives innovation across every HR function.</li><li>Using AI to turn time-consuming HR work into faster, higher-impact processes.</li><li>The “augmented, not automated” mindset that keeps HR human.</li><li>Building trust and authenticity when introducing AI-powered tools.</li><li>Finding the ROI in experimentation and scaling what works.</li><li>Why data literacy, creativity, and courage are becoming HR’s must-have skills.</li><li>How HR leaders can carve out time to think differently without waiting for permission.</li></ul><br/><p>If you’re thinking about how to future-proof your HR function through curiosity, creativity, and practical experimentation, this conversation is a roadmap for doing more than keeping up; it’s about building what’s next.</p><h3><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></h3><ul><li>Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</li><li>Future Proof HR Community</li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kenmoses/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Ken Moses on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">7e95c498-5720-408f-9192-fc4e0f1c8ffe</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2025 08:10:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/7e95c498-5720-408f-9192-fc4e0f1c8ffe.mp3" length="46830381" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>39:02</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>27</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>27</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/16c0470e-4fb7-432d-9e58-526d190ee6ae/transcript.json" type="application/json"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/16c0470e-4fb7-432d-9e58-526d190ee6ae/transcript.srt" type="application/srt" rel="captions"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/16c0470e-4fb7-432d-9e58-526d190ee6ae/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>More Human Than Ever: How HR Can Redefine Work Through Adaptability and AI</title><itunes:title>More Human Than Ever: How HR Can Redefine Work Through Adaptability and AI</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the <em>Future Proof HR Podcast</em>, Thomas Kunjappu, CEO of Cleary, sits down with Sabrina Sdao, Chief Growth Officer at Thursday Strategy and former corporate strategist at Deloitte, to discuss how organizations can thrive in the age of AI through adaptability and human-centered growth.</p><p>With over a decade of experience advising companies on transformation, Sabrina shares how adaptability has become the single most important skill for every worker. From the C-suite to the front line. She explores how AI can free people from mundane tasks, allowing them to focus on creativity, problem-solving, and building more meaningful employee experiences.</p><p>Sabrina also breaks down why HR must play a central role in guiding AI adoption, how to build a culture of adaptability from the top down, and what it takes to prepare Gen Z and early-career workers for an AI-driven future without losing essential human skills.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>Why adaptability is the meta-skill for the future of work</li><li>How HR can lead AI adoption through example and experimentation</li><li>Building a culture that rewards learning, curiosity, and agility</li><li>The balance between human skills and technical fluency</li><li>The risks of skipping foundational learning in the AI era</li><li>Making work more human through personalization and purpose</li><li>How HR can stay strategic amid economic volatility</li></ul><br/><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sabrina-sdao-17630410/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Sabrina Sdao on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the <em>Future Proof HR Podcast</em>, Thomas Kunjappu, CEO of Cleary, sits down with Sabrina Sdao, Chief Growth Officer at Thursday Strategy and former corporate strategist at Deloitte, to discuss how organizations can thrive in the age of AI through adaptability and human-centered growth.</p><p>With over a decade of experience advising companies on transformation, Sabrina shares how adaptability has become the single most important skill for every worker. From the C-suite to the front line. She explores how AI can free people from mundane tasks, allowing them to focus on creativity, problem-solving, and building more meaningful employee experiences.</p><p>Sabrina also breaks down why HR must play a central role in guiding AI adoption, how to build a culture of adaptability from the top down, and what it takes to prepare Gen Z and early-career workers for an AI-driven future without losing essential human skills.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>Why adaptability is the meta-skill for the future of work</li><li>How HR can lead AI adoption through example and experimentation</li><li>Building a culture that rewards learning, curiosity, and agility</li><li>The balance between human skills and technical fluency</li><li>The risks of skipping foundational learning in the AI era</li><li>Making work more human through personalization and purpose</li><li>How HR can stay strategic amid economic volatility</li></ul><br/><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sabrina-sdao-17630410/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Sabrina Sdao on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">6a5fe761-eb5c-423c-a527-23a8f5d7b119</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2025 09:42:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/6a5fe761-eb5c-423c-a527-23a8f5d7b119.mp3" length="58327915" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>48:36</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>26</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>26</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/598da3c9-cad8-4196-821a-a9717ad814e8/transcript.json" type="application/json"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/598da3c9-cad8-4196-821a-a9717ad814e8/transcript.srt" type="application/srt" rel="captions"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/598da3c9-cad8-4196-821a-a9717ad814e8/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>How HR Evolved: From Paperwork to Partnership</title><itunes:title>How HR Evolved: From Paperwork to Partnership</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR Podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Gene Hallenbeck, Vice President of Human Resources at <a href="https://dennis-co.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dennis &amp; Co Auto Group</a> and longtime HR educator, to unpack how HR evolved from paperwork to partnership.</p><p>With over four decades of experience from rotary phones and filing cabinets to AI-driven analytics, Gene has seen HR transform from an administrative function into a strategic, trusted advisor to the business. He shares what it takes to modernize HR structures, earn executive trust, and lead with a service mindset that treats employees like customers.</p><p>Gene also discusses his hands-on approach to building lean, high-impact teams, his “100-day model” for transformation, and how HR can move from compliance to influence while staying aligned with the organization’s real goals.</p><h3><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></h3><ul><li>The evolution of HR from manual processes to a  strategic partnership</li><li>How HR earned its seat at the table through trust and credibility</li><li>Building lean HR teams that stay aligned with business outcomes</li><li>The 100-day framework for rebuilding HR functions</li><li>Balancing technology, AI, and the human experience</li><li>The mindset shift from administration to a trusted advisor</li><li>Why every HR leader must “earn the seat” every day</li></ul><br/><h3><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></h3><ul><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/genehallenbeck" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Gene Hallenbeck on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR Podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Gene Hallenbeck, Vice President of Human Resources at <a href="https://dennis-co.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dennis &amp; Co Auto Group</a> and longtime HR educator, to unpack how HR evolved from paperwork to partnership.</p><p>With over four decades of experience from rotary phones and filing cabinets to AI-driven analytics, Gene has seen HR transform from an administrative function into a strategic, trusted advisor to the business. He shares what it takes to modernize HR structures, earn executive trust, and lead with a service mindset that treats employees like customers.</p><p>Gene also discusses his hands-on approach to building lean, high-impact teams, his “100-day model” for transformation, and how HR can move from compliance to influence while staying aligned with the organization’s real goals.</p><h3><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></h3><ul><li>The evolution of HR from manual processes to a  strategic partnership</li><li>How HR earned its seat at the table through trust and credibility</li><li>Building lean HR teams that stay aligned with business outcomes</li><li>The 100-day framework for rebuilding HR functions</li><li>Balancing technology, AI, and the human experience</li><li>The mindset shift from administration to a trusted advisor</li><li>Why every HR leader must “earn the seat” every day</li></ul><br/><h3><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></h3><ul><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/genehallenbeck" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Gene Hallenbeck on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">a80e5646-6f67-4d9c-9c19-31b7e8f48477</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2025 02:11:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/a80e5646-6f67-4d9c-9c19-31b7e8f48477.mp3" length="64600438" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>53:50</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>25</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>25</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/0722fff7-57cb-40e1-af6a-7909af48c31d/transcript.json" type="application/json"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/0722fff7-57cb-40e1-af6a-7909af48c31d/transcript.srt" type="application/srt" rel="captions"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/0722fff7-57cb-40e1-af6a-7909af48c31d/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>Building an AI-First Culture: Embedding AI in the Rhythm of Work</title><itunes:title>Building an AI-First Culture: Embedding AI in the Rhythm of Work</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Lauren Tropeano, Chief People Officer at <a href="https://www.docebo.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Docebo</a>, a global AI-first learning platform supporting HR and L&amp;D teams worldwide. Lauren is helping shape what it means to be an AI-first organization—from rethinking learning and development to weaving AI literacy into every level of the employee experience.</p><p>Lauren shares how her team is translating a bold AI vision into everyday behavior, creating a culture where curiosity, experimentation, and learning drive transformation. From launching an internal AI Academy to embedding AI in hiring, performance, and team planning, she reveals how HR can make change feel human, safe, and scalable—all while leading by example in a rapidly evolving world of work.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>How to define and operationalize an AI-first culture.</li><li>Building AI literacy through an internal academy and shared learning.</li><li>Using mindset work and champions to drive grassroots adoption.</li><li>Recruiting for curiosity and adaptability, not just AI skills.</li><li>Embedding AI into HR’s daily rhythms and OKRs.</li><li>The partnership between HR and IT in enabling transformation.</li><li>Why human judgment, empathy, and communication remain HR’s ultimate edge.</li></ul><br/><p>If you’re exploring how to move beyond AI tools to build real cultural capability, this conversation offers a practical guide to embedding AI in your organization’s rhythm—without losing the human pulse that makes it work.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurenkrol" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Lauren Tropeano on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Lauren Tropeano, Chief People Officer at <a href="https://www.docebo.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Docebo</a>, a global AI-first learning platform supporting HR and L&amp;D teams worldwide. Lauren is helping shape what it means to be an AI-first organization—from rethinking learning and development to weaving AI literacy into every level of the employee experience.</p><p>Lauren shares how her team is translating a bold AI vision into everyday behavior, creating a culture where curiosity, experimentation, and learning drive transformation. From launching an internal AI Academy to embedding AI in hiring, performance, and team planning, she reveals how HR can make change feel human, safe, and scalable—all while leading by example in a rapidly evolving world of work.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>How to define and operationalize an AI-first culture.</li><li>Building AI literacy through an internal academy and shared learning.</li><li>Using mindset work and champions to drive grassroots adoption.</li><li>Recruiting for curiosity and adaptability, not just AI skills.</li><li>Embedding AI into HR’s daily rhythms and OKRs.</li><li>The partnership between HR and IT in enabling transformation.</li><li>Why human judgment, empathy, and communication remain HR’s ultimate edge.</li></ul><br/><p>If you’re exploring how to move beyond AI tools to build real cultural capability, this conversation offers a practical guide to embedding AI in your organization’s rhythm—without losing the human pulse that makes it work.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurenkrol" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Lauren Tropeano on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">d10e48bc-05ae-4c59-8f89-85e883aad382</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2025 12:20:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/d10e48bc-05ae-4c59-8f89-85e883aad382.mp3" length="55633124" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>46:22</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>24</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>24</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/db91dcf8-b6e8-48ad-8380-31172080b3bc/transcript.json" type="application/json"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/db91dcf8-b6e8-48ad-8380-31172080b3bc/transcript.srt" type="application/srt" rel="captions"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/db91dcf8-b6e8-48ad-8380-31172080b3bc/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>Beyond Automation: How HR Balances Speed, Trust, and the Human Touch</title><itunes:title>Beyond Automation: How HR Balances Speed, Trust, and the Human Touch</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Camille Wright, Director of Human Resources at <a href="https://americanhealthmarketplace.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">American Health Marketplace</a>, a fully remote health insurance marketing agency navigating hypergrowth and heavy seasonality. Camille leads HR transformation across a distributed workforce while driving one of the boldest AI adoptions in HR. Introducing automation that accelerates hiring, strengthens compliance, and enhances the employee experience.</p><p>Camille shares what it really takes to lead through AI transformation while keeping HR’s human core intact. From reimagining recruiting with instant, AI-led interviews to retraining teams for strategic work, she’s proving that automation doesn’t replace connection, it can amplify it when built with care. Her perspective offers a practical roadmap for HR leaders balancing pressure to move fast with the need to protect trust, fairness, and belonging.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>How AI recruiting eliminates bottlenecks while preserving compliance and fairness.</li><li>Reframing HR’s role from transactional to strategic in an AI-first organization.</li><li>Upskilling and repurposing HR teams to focus on coaching and leadership.</li><li>Balancing innovation speed with sustainability and bias testing.</li><li>The evolving definition of “human connection” in HR’s digital future.</li><li>Lessons from introducing AI-driven onboarding and performance coaching.</li><li>What “AI-ready HR” looks like when built on trust, not just technology.</li></ul><br/><p>If you’ve ever wondered how to embrace AI without losing what makes HR human, this conversation with Camille Wright is your blueprint for balancing speed, strategy, and heart.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/camille-wright-m-s-shrm-scp-85b594233" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Camille Wright on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Camille Wright, Director of Human Resources at <a href="https://americanhealthmarketplace.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">American Health Marketplace</a>, a fully remote health insurance marketing agency navigating hypergrowth and heavy seasonality. Camille leads HR transformation across a distributed workforce while driving one of the boldest AI adoptions in HR. Introducing automation that accelerates hiring, strengthens compliance, and enhances the employee experience.</p><p>Camille shares what it really takes to lead through AI transformation while keeping HR’s human core intact. From reimagining recruiting with instant, AI-led interviews to retraining teams for strategic work, she’s proving that automation doesn’t replace connection, it can amplify it when built with care. Her perspective offers a practical roadmap for HR leaders balancing pressure to move fast with the need to protect trust, fairness, and belonging.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>How AI recruiting eliminates bottlenecks while preserving compliance and fairness.</li><li>Reframing HR’s role from transactional to strategic in an AI-first organization.</li><li>Upskilling and repurposing HR teams to focus on coaching and leadership.</li><li>Balancing innovation speed with sustainability and bias testing.</li><li>The evolving definition of “human connection” in HR’s digital future.</li><li>Lessons from introducing AI-driven onboarding and performance coaching.</li><li>What “AI-ready HR” looks like when built on trust, not just technology.</li></ul><br/><p>If you’ve ever wondered how to embrace AI without losing what makes HR human, this conversation with Camille Wright is your blueprint for balancing speed, strategy, and heart.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/camille-wright-m-s-shrm-scp-85b594233" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Camille Wright on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">ff90580d-b713-4df1-8f20-47ea0dd5f519</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2025 10:45:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/ff90580d-b713-4df1-8f20-47ea0dd5f519.mp3" length="46106433" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>48:02</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>23</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>23</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>The Wild West of HR Tech: Compliance, AI, and Employee Trust</title><itunes:title>The Wild West of HR Tech: Compliance, AI, and Employee Trust</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanda-mihali-hrprofessional/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Shanda Mihali</strong></a><strong>, </strong>Chief Human Resources Officer at <a href="https://www.axmservices.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Axiom Healthcare Services</strong></a>, a long-term health and assisted living organization serving communities across the U.S. Shanda brings a frontline perspective to HR transformation in one of the most compliance-driven industries, where the pressure to adopt AI collides with limited budgets, lean teams, and rising expectations.</p><p>Shanda shares how she navigates the tension between AI’s promise and the realities of HR leadership: from vendor overload and compliance guardrails to the ever-expanding definition of HR’s role in employee well-being, retention, and culture. Her story highlights both the risks of rushing adoption and the opportunities to reshape HR when technology handles the transactional, freeing people to focus on strategy and connection.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>Why AI in HR feels like both the <em>“wild west”</em> and a lifeline for overloaded teams.</li><li>The reality of “more with less”: shrinking budgets, lean staffing, and rising expectations.</li><li>The pitfalls of vendor fatigue and the hard questions every CHRO should ask before buying.</li><li>Balancing compliance, trust, and innovation in healthcare HR.</li><li>How to leverage peer networks and roundtables to evaluate tools more effectively.</li><li>Why adaptability, creativity, and willingness to explore matter more than perfect expertise.</li><li>A vision of HR’s future: AI handling policies, handbooks, and routine Q&amp;A while humans focus on well-being, retention, and creative strategy.</li><li>Practical advice for early-career HR professionals looking to make the biggest impact on frontline staff.</li></ul><br/><p>If you’ve ever felt the weight of doing more with less while being pushed to innovate, this candid conversation with Shanda Mihaly is both validating and inspiring.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanda-mihali-hrprofessional/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Shanda Mihali on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanda-mihali-hrprofessional/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Shanda Mihali</strong></a><strong>, </strong>Chief Human Resources Officer at <a href="https://www.axmservices.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Axiom Healthcare Services</strong></a>, a long-term health and assisted living organization serving communities across the U.S. Shanda brings a frontline perspective to HR transformation in one of the most compliance-driven industries, where the pressure to adopt AI collides with limited budgets, lean teams, and rising expectations.</p><p>Shanda shares how she navigates the tension between AI’s promise and the realities of HR leadership: from vendor overload and compliance guardrails to the ever-expanding definition of HR’s role in employee well-being, retention, and culture. Her story highlights both the risks of rushing adoption and the opportunities to reshape HR when technology handles the transactional, freeing people to focus on strategy and connection.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>Why AI in HR feels like both the <em>“wild west”</em> and a lifeline for overloaded teams.</li><li>The reality of “more with less”: shrinking budgets, lean staffing, and rising expectations.</li><li>The pitfalls of vendor fatigue and the hard questions every CHRO should ask before buying.</li><li>Balancing compliance, trust, and innovation in healthcare HR.</li><li>How to leverage peer networks and roundtables to evaluate tools more effectively.</li><li>Why adaptability, creativity, and willingness to explore matter more than perfect expertise.</li><li>A vision of HR’s future: AI handling policies, handbooks, and routine Q&amp;A while humans focus on well-being, retention, and creative strategy.</li><li>Practical advice for early-career HR professionals looking to make the biggest impact on frontline staff.</li></ul><br/><p>If you’ve ever felt the weight of doing more with less while being pushed to innovate, this candid conversation with Shanda Mihaly is both validating and inspiring.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanda-mihali-hrprofessional/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Shanda Mihali on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">c7ffdd28-8ca4-4422-8b5d-f05a13ad90f8</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2025 05:00:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/c7ffdd28-8ca4-4422-8b5d-f05a13ad90f8.mp3" length="50238838" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>41:52</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>22</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>22</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/7daf25cc-f5d0-4714-9756-5a2a288e9b0f/transcript.json" type="application/json"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/7daf25cc-f5d0-4714-9756-5a2a288e9b0f/transcript.srt" type="application/srt" rel="captions"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/7daf25cc-f5d0-4714-9756-5a2a288e9b0f/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>Small Sessions, Big Shift: How L&amp;D Scales AI Habits</title><itunes:title>Small Sessions, Big Shift: How L&amp;D Scales AI Habits</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR&nbsp;podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Stephanie Leal, Director of HR Learning and Development at&nbsp;<a href="https://www.missionnorth.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mission North</a>. Stephanie is leading a company-wide initiative to build AI fluency, not just within HR but across client-facing teams serving some of the most innovative tech brands. What began with a simple usage survey has evolved into a structured learning program—<em>Navigating AI</em>—that combines show-and-tell sessions, AI principles embedded into onboarding, and ongoing cross-functional training.Stephanie shares how she shifted from AI skeptic to champion, helping Mission North employees transform curiosity into practical skills while balancing excitement with caution around data privacy and security. Her story offers a model for how HR and L&amp;D leaders can drive adoption without mandates, creating a culture of experimentation and trust.<strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>How a baseline AI survey revealed 73% of employees were already “explorers.”</li><li>Why mandates spread fear while experimentation spreads innovation.</li><li>Building&nbsp;<em>Navigating AI</em>, a cross-company learning journey with measurable outcomes.</li><li>Embedding AI principles into onboarding and company culture.</li><li>Using show-and-tell sessions and super users to drive grassroots adoption.</li><li>Balancing security, transparency, and responsible AI use.</li><li>How L&amp;D can leverage AI to create more personalized and scalable learning experiences.</li><li>Why curiosity and continuous learning matter more than prior AI skills in hiring.</li><li>The future of L&amp;D: moving from manual training tasks to AI-powered content creation and strategy.</li></ul><br/><p>If you’re looking for a practical guide to building AI fluency across your organization while keeping HR at the center of trust, learning, and culture, this conversation with Stephanie Leal is packed with insights you can use today.<strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephanieleal4/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Stephanie Leal on LinkedIn</a></li><li><a href="https://www.unleash.ai/artificial-intelligence/more-hr-professionals-now-using-ai-but-lack-of-training-creates-a-major-knowledge-gap/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AI Creates Major Knowledge Gap</a></li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR&nbsp;podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Stephanie Leal, Director of HR Learning and Development at&nbsp;<a href="https://www.missionnorth.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mission North</a>. Stephanie is leading a company-wide initiative to build AI fluency, not just within HR but across client-facing teams serving some of the most innovative tech brands. What began with a simple usage survey has evolved into a structured learning program—<em>Navigating AI</em>—that combines show-and-tell sessions, AI principles embedded into onboarding, and ongoing cross-functional training.Stephanie shares how she shifted from AI skeptic to champion, helping Mission North employees transform curiosity into practical skills while balancing excitement with caution around data privacy and security. Her story offers a model for how HR and L&amp;D leaders can drive adoption without mandates, creating a culture of experimentation and trust.<strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>How a baseline AI survey revealed 73% of employees were already “explorers.”</li><li>Why mandates spread fear while experimentation spreads innovation.</li><li>Building&nbsp;<em>Navigating AI</em>, a cross-company learning journey with measurable outcomes.</li><li>Embedding AI principles into onboarding and company culture.</li><li>Using show-and-tell sessions and super users to drive grassroots adoption.</li><li>Balancing security, transparency, and responsible AI use.</li><li>How L&amp;D can leverage AI to create more personalized and scalable learning experiences.</li><li>Why curiosity and continuous learning matter more than prior AI skills in hiring.</li><li>The future of L&amp;D: moving from manual training tasks to AI-powered content creation and strategy.</li></ul><br/><p>If you’re looking for a practical guide to building AI fluency across your organization while keeping HR at the center of trust, learning, and culture, this conversation with Stephanie Leal is packed with insights you can use today.<strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephanieleal4/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Stephanie Leal on LinkedIn</a></li><li><a href="https://www.unleash.ai/artificial-intelligence/more-hr-professionals-now-using-ai-but-lack-of-training-creates-a-major-knowledge-gap/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AI Creates Major Knowledge Gap</a></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">0ae51ec3-c7b8-431a-ab53-577ec35f60c0</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2025 17:02:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/0ae51ec3-c7b8-431a-ab53-577ec35f60c0.mp3" length="45822054" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>38:11</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>21</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>21</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/9cb431da-b062-47c4-a0f7-0aff8eb16a45/transcript.json" type="application/json"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/9cb431da-b062-47c4-a0f7-0aff8eb16a45/transcript.srt" type="application/srt" rel="captions"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/9cb431da-b062-47c4-a0f7-0aff8eb16a45/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>7 Takeaways from OpenAIs Largest ChatGPT Study Ever for HR Leaders</title><itunes:title>7 Takeaways from OpenAIs Largest ChatGPT Study Ever for HR Leaders</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><strong>Episode Summary:</strong></p><p>In this episode, Thomas Kunjappu breaks down the largest study ever conducted on ChatGPT usage — covering over <strong>1.5 million messages from 130,000 users</strong>. What does this mean for HR leaders? From demographics to global adoption, from workplace use cases to compliance and upskilling, Thomas shares <strong>seven actionable takeaways</strong> that every HR leader needs to know to stay ahead in the AI-powered workplace.</p><p>Whether you’re navigating AI adoption in your organization, shaping compliance policies, or rethinking employee training, this episode will give you the clarity and insights to lead with confidence.</p><h2>🔑 Key Takeaways</h2><ol><li><strong>Demographics Are Shifting</strong> – Gender parity has already arrived, with women slightly outpacing men in ChatGPT adoption.</li><li><strong>AI Is Going Global</strong> – Adoption is spreading quickly, even in middle- and lower-income countries.</li><li><strong>Work vs. Personal Use</strong> – Consumers are using ChatGPT at work primarily for <strong>tasks</strong> rather than just questions.</li><li><strong>Workplace Writing Dominates</strong> – Emails, job descriptions, resumes, and presentations are among the most common work-related tasks.</li><li><strong>Employees Want AI to Do the “Sucky Work”</strong> – Repetitive tasks are being offloaded to AI, freeing up time for higher-value work.</li><li><strong>Compliance Is Critical</strong> – HR must implement clear AI usage policies to avoid data leaks and compliance risks.</li><li><strong>Upskilling Is Urgent</strong> – AI-related competencies will redefine roles; HR leaders must reskill teams to stay competitive.</li></ol><br/><h2>📌 What You’ll Learn</h2><ul><li>How ChatGPT usage has exploded globally since 2022</li><li>Why AI adoption is faster than the rollout of smartphones or broadband</li><li>The difference between personal and workplace AI use cases</li><li>The industries most affected by AI adoption right now</li><li>What HR leaders can do to future-proof their organizations</li></ul><br/><h2>🔗 Resources &amp; Links</h2><ul><li>[OpenAI Study Reference] (insert link Thomas mentioned)</li><li>Learn more about <strong>Cleary</strong> and how we help organizations adopt AI responsibly: <a href="https://gocleary.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">gocleary.com</a></li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Episode Summary:</strong></p><p>In this episode, Thomas Kunjappu breaks down the largest study ever conducted on ChatGPT usage — covering over <strong>1.5 million messages from 130,000 users</strong>. What does this mean for HR leaders? From demographics to global adoption, from workplace use cases to compliance and upskilling, Thomas shares <strong>seven actionable takeaways</strong> that every HR leader needs to know to stay ahead in the AI-powered workplace.</p><p>Whether you’re navigating AI adoption in your organization, shaping compliance policies, or rethinking employee training, this episode will give you the clarity and insights to lead with confidence.</p><h2>🔑 Key Takeaways</h2><ol><li><strong>Demographics Are Shifting</strong> – Gender parity has already arrived, with women slightly outpacing men in ChatGPT adoption.</li><li><strong>AI Is Going Global</strong> – Adoption is spreading quickly, even in middle- and lower-income countries.</li><li><strong>Work vs. Personal Use</strong> – Consumers are using ChatGPT at work primarily for <strong>tasks</strong> rather than just questions.</li><li><strong>Workplace Writing Dominates</strong> – Emails, job descriptions, resumes, and presentations are among the most common work-related tasks.</li><li><strong>Employees Want AI to Do the “Sucky Work”</strong> – Repetitive tasks are being offloaded to AI, freeing up time for higher-value work.</li><li><strong>Compliance Is Critical</strong> – HR must implement clear AI usage policies to avoid data leaks and compliance risks.</li><li><strong>Upskilling Is Urgent</strong> – AI-related competencies will redefine roles; HR leaders must reskill teams to stay competitive.</li></ol><br/><h2>📌 What You’ll Learn</h2><ul><li>How ChatGPT usage has exploded globally since 2022</li><li>Why AI adoption is faster than the rollout of smartphones or broadband</li><li>The difference between personal and workplace AI use cases</li><li>The industries most affected by AI adoption right now</li><li>What HR leaders can do to future-proof their organizations</li></ul><br/><h2>🔗 Resources &amp; Links</h2><ul><li>[OpenAI Study Reference] (insert link Thomas mentioned)</li><li>Learn more about <strong>Cleary</strong> and how we help organizations adopt AI responsibly: <a href="https://gocleary.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">gocleary.com</a></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">34176a8f-dd08-4619-988d-c715b91ff68c</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2025 10:21:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/34176a8f-dd08-4619-988d-c715b91ff68c.mp3" length="46465189" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>38:43</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>21</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>21</podcast:episode></item><item><title>The People-First Pivot: From Post-Merger Chaos to a Great Place to Work</title><itunes:title>The People-First Pivot: From Post-Merger Chaos to a Great Place to Work</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Diana Valler, Chief Human Resource Officer at TravelBrands. Diana’s journey is a masterclass in crisis leadership; she joined the company post-acquisition and mid-pandemic, tasked with building an entire HR function from scratch in the hard-hit travel industry. With no systems in place, she faced the ultimate "trial by fire" and emerged with a playbook for building a resilient, people-first organization.</p><p>Diana shares the powerful story of how she transformed a fragmented organization into an award-winning "Great Place to Work" by leading with love, empathy, and radical transparency. From conducting one-on-ones with every single employee to maintaining communication with a laid-off workforce, Diana proves that a deep focus on the human experience is the ultimate strategy for navigating disruption—whether it’s a pandemic or the rise of AI.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>Unifying culture and building trust after a chaotic post-merger period.</li><li>Key lessons from navigating the pandemic in the hard-hit travel industry.</li><li>Building a complete HR function from a single sick day policy to full trust.</li><li>The strategic impact of conducting one-on-one meetings with every employee.</li><li>How navigating extreme challenges can forge an adaptable, AI-ready culture.</li><li>Fostering a mindset of co-creation by treating HR as an "innovation lab."</li><li>A framework for communicating layoffs and organizational change with humanity.</li><li>How to enforce HR policy while still leading with empathy.</li><li>Turning a people-first strategy into a tangible asset like a "Great Place to Work" certification.</li></ul><br/><p>If you’re looking for a story of true resilience and a practical guide to putting your people at the center of your strategy, this conversation with Diana Valler offers a powerful and inspiring vision for what HR can achieve.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dianavaller/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Diana Valler on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Diana Valler, Chief Human Resource Officer at TravelBrands. Diana’s journey is a masterclass in crisis leadership; she joined the company post-acquisition and mid-pandemic, tasked with building an entire HR function from scratch in the hard-hit travel industry. With no systems in place, she faced the ultimate "trial by fire" and emerged with a playbook for building a resilient, people-first organization.</p><p>Diana shares the powerful story of how she transformed a fragmented organization into an award-winning "Great Place to Work" by leading with love, empathy, and radical transparency. From conducting one-on-ones with every single employee to maintaining communication with a laid-off workforce, Diana proves that a deep focus on the human experience is the ultimate strategy for navigating disruption—whether it’s a pandemic or the rise of AI.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>Unifying culture and building trust after a chaotic post-merger period.</li><li>Key lessons from navigating the pandemic in the hard-hit travel industry.</li><li>Building a complete HR function from a single sick day policy to full trust.</li><li>The strategic impact of conducting one-on-one meetings with every employee.</li><li>How navigating extreme challenges can forge an adaptable, AI-ready culture.</li><li>Fostering a mindset of co-creation by treating HR as an "innovation lab."</li><li>A framework for communicating layoffs and organizational change with humanity.</li><li>How to enforce HR policy while still leading with empathy.</li><li>Turning a people-first strategy into a tangible asset like a "Great Place to Work" certification.</li></ul><br/><p>If you’re looking for a story of true resilience and a practical guide to putting your people at the center of your strategy, this conversation with Diana Valler offers a powerful and inspiring vision for what HR can achieve.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dianavaller/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Diana Valler on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">410a34b0-9e0d-4844-8862-08ab1e54b238</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2025 17:12:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/410a34b0-9e0d-4844-8862-08ab1e54b238.mp3" length="55719850" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>46:26</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>20</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>20</podcast:episode></item><item><title>From Chaos to Strategy: How HR Shapes Adaptive, AI-Ready Organizations</title><itunes:title>From Chaos to Strategy: How HR Shapes Adaptive, AI-Ready Organizations</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Bernard Coleman III, SVP of People at Swing Education, whose career spans presidential campaigns, DEI leadership, and people operations in high-growth tech. Bernard brings a pragmatic and systems-oriented perspective on how HR can lead the charge in building AI fluency across organizations without panic, chaos, or gimmicks.</p><p>From getting introduced to AI by his seventh-grade daughter to implementing department-level AI adoption strategies, Bernard shares how HR can play a central role in change management, tool selection, onboarding, and workforce empowerment. He makes the case that adaptive intelligence—not just artificial intelligence—is the true currency for future-ready teams.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>Why HR—not IT—should own the AI strategy playbook</li><li>“Adaptive intelligence”: the other AI skill HR must build</li><li>How HR can go from AI fear to AI fluency through hands-on adoption</li><li>The power of onboarding to jumpstart company-wide AI literacy</li><li>How to build department-level structure without killing creativity</li><li>Measuring AI program impact: sentiment, adoption, and real output</li><li>Why L&amp;D teams must be AI-literate to design the future of work</li><li>The role of incentives and gamification in upskilling programs</li><li>How to get exec buy-in when budgets are tight but urgency is high</li><li>Bernard’s practical roadmap for building AI-ready HR teams</li></ul><br/><p>If you’re leading HR in 2025 and wondering how to equip your team—and the rest of your company—for an AI-driven future without losing the plot, this conversation with Bernard offers the clarity, strategy, and humanity you’ve been looking for.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/bcc3/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bernard Coleman III on LinkedIn</a></li><li><a href="https://bernardcoleman.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bernard Coleman III Website</a></li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Bernard Coleman III, SVP of People at Swing Education, whose career spans presidential campaigns, DEI leadership, and people operations in high-growth tech. Bernard brings a pragmatic and systems-oriented perspective on how HR can lead the charge in building AI fluency across organizations without panic, chaos, or gimmicks.</p><p>From getting introduced to AI by his seventh-grade daughter to implementing department-level AI adoption strategies, Bernard shares how HR can play a central role in change management, tool selection, onboarding, and workforce empowerment. He makes the case that adaptive intelligence—not just artificial intelligence—is the true currency for future-ready teams.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>Why HR—not IT—should own the AI strategy playbook</li><li>“Adaptive intelligence”: the other AI skill HR must build</li><li>How HR can go from AI fear to AI fluency through hands-on adoption</li><li>The power of onboarding to jumpstart company-wide AI literacy</li><li>How to build department-level structure without killing creativity</li><li>Measuring AI program impact: sentiment, adoption, and real output</li><li>Why L&amp;D teams must be AI-literate to design the future of work</li><li>The role of incentives and gamification in upskilling programs</li><li>How to get exec buy-in when budgets are tight but urgency is high</li><li>Bernard’s practical roadmap for building AI-ready HR teams</li></ul><br/><p>If you’re leading HR in 2025 and wondering how to equip your team—and the rest of your company—for an AI-driven future without losing the plot, this conversation with Bernard offers the clarity, strategy, and humanity you’ve been looking for.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/bcc3/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bernard Coleman III on LinkedIn</a></li><li><a href="https://bernardcoleman.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bernard Coleman III Website</a></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">46c43a7a-589d-4f1b-9c73-c8957f52390e</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2025 15:29:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/46c43a7a-589d-4f1b-9c73-c8957f52390e.mp3" length="53985320" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>44:59</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>19</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>19</podcast:episode></item><item><title>HR in the Shadows: The Struggles and Future No One Talks About</title><itunes:title>HR in the Shadows: The Struggles and Future No One Talks About</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR Podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Anne Bosse, HR Director at Einstein Moving Company, who runs the people function as a team of one supporting over 300 employees. Anne shares candid insights on the unseen burdens HR carries, the balancing act between compliance and culture, and how she’s navigating the promises and pitfalls of AI without losing the human touch.</p><p>Drawing from her unique path across industries — from data analysis to recruiting to leading HR solo — Anne reflects on why HR is often undervalued, how to demonstrate its hidden value to leadership, and the realities of doing more with less in a changing world.</p><p>Topics Discussed</p><ul><li>Why HR is often the first to face cuts — and the long-term consequences</li><li>The paradox of HR’s invisible value: you only notice it when it’s gone</li><li>Balancing compliance, culture, and employee experience as a team of one</li><li>The hidden costs of solo HR leadership and signals it’s time to expand</li><li>Lessons learned from building HR expertise across industries and roles</li><li>AI’s double-edged impact on HR: efficiency vs. risk and human judgment</li><li>“AI-assisted, human-informed” — Anne’s guiding principle for the future of HR</li><li>The role of community and peer networks when you don’t have an internal team</li></ul><br/><p>If you’ve ever wondered what it really takes to carry HR at scale with limited resources, or how to balance the hype and hazards of AI while keeping people at the center, this episode delivers both practical strategies and thought-provoking perspective.</p><p>Additional Resources</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/annebosse" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/annebosse/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Anne Bosse on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/><p>Article references:&nbsp;</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.statnews.com/2025/02/07/unitedhealth-class-action-lawsuit-ai-care-denials-nears-key-decision/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.statnews.com/2025/02/07/unitedhealth-class-action-lawsuit-ai-care-denials-nears-key-decision/</a></li><li><a href="https://www.reuters.com/article/world/insight-amazon-scraps-secret-ai-recruiting-tool-that-showed-bias-against-women-idUSKCN1MK0AG/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.reuters.com/article/world/insight-amazon-scraps-secret-ai-recruiting-tool-that-showed-bias-against-women-idUSKCN1MK0AG/</a></li><li><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/30/disabled-amazon-workers-discrimination" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/30/disabled-amazon-workers-discrimination</a></li><li><a href="https://www.workcompcentral.com/news/article/id/57ec4d067dd278523a8cb1978adb7458c4d41f5c" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.workcompcentral.com/news/article/id/57ec4d067dd278523a8cb1978adb7458c4d41f5c</a></li><li><a href="https://www.lawandtheworkplace.com/2025/06/ai-bias-lawsuit-against-workday-reaches-next-stage-as-court-grants-conditional-certification-of-adea-claim/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.lawandtheworkplace.com/2025/06/ai-bias-lawsuit-against-workday-reaches-next-stage-as-court-grants-conditional-certification-of-adea-claim/</a></li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Future Proof HR Podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Anne Bosse, HR Director at Einstein Moving Company, who runs the people function as a team of one supporting over 300 employees. Anne shares candid insights on the unseen burdens HR carries, the balancing act between compliance and culture, and how she’s navigating the promises and pitfalls of AI without losing the human touch.</p><p>Drawing from her unique path across industries — from data analysis to recruiting to leading HR solo — Anne reflects on why HR is often undervalued, how to demonstrate its hidden value to leadership, and the realities of doing more with less in a changing world.</p><p>Topics Discussed</p><ul><li>Why HR is often the first to face cuts — and the long-term consequences</li><li>The paradox of HR’s invisible value: you only notice it when it’s gone</li><li>Balancing compliance, culture, and employee experience as a team of one</li><li>The hidden costs of solo HR leadership and signals it’s time to expand</li><li>Lessons learned from building HR expertise across industries and roles</li><li>AI’s double-edged impact on HR: efficiency vs. risk and human judgment</li><li>“AI-assisted, human-informed” — Anne’s guiding principle for the future of HR</li><li>The role of community and peer networks when you don’t have an internal team</li></ul><br/><p>If you’ve ever wondered what it really takes to carry HR at scale with limited resources, or how to balance the hype and hazards of AI while keeping people at the center, this episode delivers both practical strategies and thought-provoking perspective.</p><p>Additional Resources</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/annebosse" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></li><li><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/annebosse/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Anne Bosse on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/><p>Article references:&nbsp;</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.statnews.com/2025/02/07/unitedhealth-class-action-lawsuit-ai-care-denials-nears-key-decision/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.statnews.com/2025/02/07/unitedhealth-class-action-lawsuit-ai-care-denials-nears-key-decision/</a></li><li><a href="https://www.reuters.com/article/world/insight-amazon-scraps-secret-ai-recruiting-tool-that-showed-bias-against-women-idUSKCN1MK0AG/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.reuters.com/article/world/insight-amazon-scraps-secret-ai-recruiting-tool-that-showed-bias-against-women-idUSKCN1MK0AG/</a></li><li><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/30/disabled-amazon-workers-discrimination" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/30/disabled-amazon-workers-discrimination</a></li><li><a href="https://www.workcompcentral.com/news/article/id/57ec4d067dd278523a8cb1978adb7458c4d41f5c" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.workcompcentral.com/news/article/id/57ec4d067dd278523a8cb1978adb7458c4d41f5c</a></li><li><a href="https://www.lawandtheworkplace.com/2025/06/ai-bias-lawsuit-against-workday-reaches-next-stage-as-court-grants-conditional-certification-of-adea-claim/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.lawandtheworkplace.com/2025/06/ai-bias-lawsuit-against-workday-reaches-next-stage-as-court-grants-conditional-certification-of-adea-claim/</a></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">a5e3fb49-6e19-40e6-bab4-806f955f6303</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2025 13:07:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/a5e3fb49-6e19-40e6-bab4-806f955f6303.mp3" length="41487810" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>43:13</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>18</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>18</podcast:episode></item><item><title>The Divide Is Real: Why Some HR Teams Embrace AI Change and Others Stay Stuck</title><itunes:title>The Divide Is Real: Why Some HR Teams Embrace AI Change and Others Stay Stuck</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Future Proof HR Podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Preston Lewis, SVP, Communications and Consultant at Segal Benz, to explore the widening gap in how HR teams approach AI adoption. Some are leaning in with strategy, structure, and reskilling. Others are holding back, risking inefficiency, wasted resources, and talent loss.</p><p>With over 25 years advising some of the world’s most recognized brands, Preston shares why communications leaders are often asked to lead AI change, the mindset shifts that separate innovators from laggards, and how to prepare HR and comms teams for rapid transformation without losing the human connection.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed</strong></p><ul><li>Why some HR teams embrace AI while others stall</li><li>The role of communication leaders in driving AI transformation</li><li>Navigating shadow AI and employee use of unsanctioned tools</li><li>Building trust, feedback loops, and psychological safety for change</li><li>New roles emerging in HR and comms for the AI era</li><li>A four-lens framework: Strategy &amp; planning, systems &amp; process, skills &amp; capabilities, platforms &amp; technology</li><li>Balancing in-house skill-building with outside expertise</li><li>Preparing for faster rates of change and evolving roles</li></ul><br/><p>If your HR or comms team is struggling to bridge the AI adoption gap, this episode offers a roadmap for closing it — while keeping people, trust, and strategy at the center.&nbsp;</p><p>Additional Resources:</p><p><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></p><p><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/prestonlewis/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Preston Lewis on LinkedIn</a></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Future Proof HR Podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Preston Lewis, SVP, Communications and Consultant at Segal Benz, to explore the widening gap in how HR teams approach AI adoption. Some are leaning in with strategy, structure, and reskilling. Others are holding back, risking inefficiency, wasted resources, and talent loss.</p><p>With over 25 years advising some of the world’s most recognized brands, Preston shares why communications leaders are often asked to lead AI change, the mindset shifts that separate innovators from laggards, and how to prepare HR and comms teams for rapid transformation without losing the human connection.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed</strong></p><ul><li>Why some HR teams embrace AI while others stall</li><li>The role of communication leaders in driving AI transformation</li><li>Navigating shadow AI and employee use of unsanctioned tools</li><li>Building trust, feedback loops, and psychological safety for change</li><li>New roles emerging in HR and comms for the AI era</li><li>A four-lens framework: Strategy &amp; planning, systems &amp; process, skills &amp; capabilities, platforms &amp; technology</li><li>Balancing in-house skill-building with outside expertise</li><li>Preparing for faster rates of change and evolving roles</li></ul><br/><p>If your HR or comms team is struggling to bridge the AI adoption gap, this episode offers a roadmap for closing it — while keeping people, trust, and strategy at the center.&nbsp;</p><p>Additional Resources:</p><p><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></p><p><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/prestonlewis/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Preston Lewis on LinkedIn</a></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">4866022c-c60f-41dc-b4a2-031af5d5cf4f</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2025 13:06:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/4866022c-c60f-41dc-b4a2-031af5d5cf4f.mp3" length="41744019" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>43:29</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>17</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>17</podcast:episode></item><item><title>HR’s AI Reality Check: Risk, Fear, and the Case for Human Judgment</title><itunes:title>HR’s AI Reality Check: Risk, Fear, and the Case for Human Judgment</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Marni Helfand, General Counsel and Chief Human Resources Officer at The Planet Group, to unpack what happens when legal risk, recruiting automation, and executive fear collide.</p><p>From her rare position at the intersection of HR and employment law, Marni explains why the biggest risk isn’t using AI—it’s not using it. She walks through her team’s real-world experiments with AI recruiting tools, how they discovered hidden weaknesses in job descriptions, and why even “safe” automation can backfire without human judgment in the loop.</p><p>This conversation goes beyond compliance. It’s about helping HR evolve from paralyzed to proactive—by starting small, learning fast, and staying human.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>How an AI recruiting tool rejected 100 candidates in 25 minutes—without human review</li><li>Why HR’s real risk isn’t legal exposure—it’s fear and inertia</li><li>A simple prompt that unlocks small wins:&nbsp;<em>“Wouldn’t it be great if…”</em></li><li>What Marni learned from running an AI recruiting pilot at a staffing firm</li><li>Why most job descriptions are sabotaging your AI efforts</li><li>A compliance-first approach to choosing the right AI vendors</li><li>The HR cat-and-mouse game: AI-savvy candidates vs. AI screeners</li><li>Why employee relations won’t disappear—but how AI can improve its output</li><li>A call for mid-career HR pros to make the business case, not just wait for permission</li></ul><br/><p>&nbsp;If you're an HR leader wrestling with legal risk, executive hesitation, or your own uncertainty around AI, this episode offers a practical lens for moving forward—without losing the human core of your work.&nbsp;</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Marni Helfand, General Counsel and Chief Human Resources Officer at The Planet Group, to unpack what happens when legal risk, recruiting automation, and executive fear collide.</p><p>From her rare position at the intersection of HR and employment law, Marni explains why the biggest risk isn’t using AI—it’s not using it. She walks through her team’s real-world experiments with AI recruiting tools, how they discovered hidden weaknesses in job descriptions, and why even “safe” automation can backfire without human judgment in the loop.</p><p>This conversation goes beyond compliance. It’s about helping HR evolve from paralyzed to proactive—by starting small, learning fast, and staying human.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>How an AI recruiting tool rejected 100 candidates in 25 minutes—without human review</li><li>Why HR’s real risk isn’t legal exposure—it’s fear and inertia</li><li>A simple prompt that unlocks small wins:&nbsp;<em>“Wouldn’t it be great if…”</em></li><li>What Marni learned from running an AI recruiting pilot at a staffing firm</li><li>Why most job descriptions are sabotaging your AI efforts</li><li>A compliance-first approach to choosing the right AI vendors</li><li>The HR cat-and-mouse game: AI-savvy candidates vs. AI screeners</li><li>Why employee relations won’t disappear—but how AI can improve its output</li><li>A call for mid-career HR pros to make the business case, not just wait for permission</li></ul><br/><p>&nbsp;If you're an HR leader wrestling with legal risk, executive hesitation, or your own uncertainty around AI, this episode offers a practical lens for moving forward—without losing the human core of your work.&nbsp;</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">d6cfba83-60c3-4f34-a543-d15204ba9d97</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2025 13:03:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/d6cfba83-60c3-4f34-a543-d15204ba9d97.mp3" length="40280326" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>41:57</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>16</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>16</podcast:episode></item><item><title>The Adaptability Imperative: Redesigning Work and Leading Through AI Disruption</title><itunes:title>The Adaptability Imperative: Redesigning Work and Leading Through AI Disruption</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Christopher Courneen, Senior Vice President of Human Resources at MSI, to explore how HR leaders can turn job elimination into career acceleration by embracing AI, upskilling, and redefining the role of HR.</p><p>Chris shares how MSI eliminated layers of work without laying off employees.&nbsp;Transforming recruiter roles, redesigning onboarding, and creating a culture of adaptability at every level. His approach to HR as a profit center, not a cost center, challenges the entire function to think more like business operators than administrators.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>The “job elimination paradox”: How automation wiped out a role and opened the door to growth</li><li>Real-world playbook: Upskilling recruiters into higher-value work without fear-based messaging</li><li>Why HR needs to stop hiding behind “magic black box” thinking and understand how LLMs actually work</li><li>What happened when an intern’s AI research changed everything</li><li>Why adaptability—not experience—is the new hiring filter</li><li>A call for HR to lead AI transformation, not wait for permission</li><li>Rethinking HR as a profit center: Translating people work into business impact</li><li>Why continuous learning is now non-negotiable for every knowledge worker</li></ul><br/><p>If you're in HR and wondering how to lead through disruption instead of reacting to it, this episode offers a refreshingly honest look at what future-proofing really takes.&nbsp;</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Christopher Courneen, Senior Vice President of Human Resources at MSI, to explore how HR leaders can turn job elimination into career acceleration by embracing AI, upskilling, and redefining the role of HR.</p><p>Chris shares how MSI eliminated layers of work without laying off employees.&nbsp;Transforming recruiter roles, redesigning onboarding, and creating a culture of adaptability at every level. His approach to HR as a profit center, not a cost center, challenges the entire function to think more like business operators than administrators.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>The “job elimination paradox”: How automation wiped out a role and opened the door to growth</li><li>Real-world playbook: Upskilling recruiters into higher-value work without fear-based messaging</li><li>Why HR needs to stop hiding behind “magic black box” thinking and understand how LLMs actually work</li><li>What happened when an intern’s AI research changed everything</li><li>Why adaptability—not experience—is the new hiring filter</li><li>A call for HR to lead AI transformation, not wait for permission</li><li>Rethinking HR as a profit center: Translating people work into business impact</li><li>Why continuous learning is now non-negotiable for every knowledge worker</li></ul><br/><p>If you're in HR and wondering how to lead through disruption instead of reacting to it, this episode offers a refreshingly honest look at what future-proofing really takes.&nbsp;</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">51c5a8c8-705f-4e0b-bd59-07eb9d0f61c6</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2025 13:01:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/51c5a8c8-705f-4e0b-bd59-07eb9d0f61c6.mp3" length="53512914" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>55:45</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>15</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>15</podcast:episode></item><item><title>The AI Anxiety Antidote: How HR Can Turn Uncertainty Into Opportunity</title><itunes:title>The AI Anxiety Antidote: How HR Can Turn Uncertainty Into Opportunity</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Sue Newman, Senior Director of HR at ATW, to explore how HR leaders can transform AI anxiety into an organizational opportunity while supporting a multigenerational workforce through technological change.&nbsp;</p><p>With over 20 years of HR experience spanning engineering organizations, public sector, and corporate transformations, Sue oversees both HR technology and learning &amp; development for over 3,000 employees.&nbsp;</p><p>When Sue's employees started expressing concerns about AI potentially taking their jobs, she didn't just address their fears; she turned it into a catalyst for practical AI adoption.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>Moving beyond "clickbait" AI layoff headlines toward practical understanding and action</li><li>Real-world case study: Using AI to help a late adopter retain employment while closing skill gaps</li><li>The "candles to electricity" analogy: Why AI adoption is inevitable and how to embrace it</li><li>Scaling learning &amp; development as a "team of one" using AI for custom content creation</li><li>Why HR professionals need their own AI point of view before engaging with vendors</li><li>The future of HR: Moving from administrative burden back to relationship-building</li><li>How to safely introduce AI across different generations and comfort levels</li><li>Essential advice for new HR professionals: Understand your organization's core business first</li></ul><br/><p>If you're an HR leader wondering how to address AI anxiety in your organization while leveraging technology to enhance rather than replace human capabilities, this episode provides both empathy and practical strategies for transformation</p><p><strong>Additional resources:</strong></p><p><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></p><p><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/psuenewman/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sue Newman on LinkedIn</a></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Sue Newman, Senior Director of HR at ATW, to explore how HR leaders can transform AI anxiety into an organizational opportunity while supporting a multigenerational workforce through technological change.&nbsp;</p><p>With over 20 years of HR experience spanning engineering organizations, public sector, and corporate transformations, Sue oversees both HR technology and learning &amp; development for over 3,000 employees.&nbsp;</p><p>When Sue's employees started expressing concerns about AI potentially taking their jobs, she didn't just address their fears; she turned it into a catalyst for practical AI adoption.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>Moving beyond "clickbait" AI layoff headlines toward practical understanding and action</li><li>Real-world case study: Using AI to help a late adopter retain employment while closing skill gaps</li><li>The "candles to electricity" analogy: Why AI adoption is inevitable and how to embrace it</li><li>Scaling learning &amp; development as a "team of one" using AI for custom content creation</li><li>Why HR professionals need their own AI point of view before engaging with vendors</li><li>The future of HR: Moving from administrative burden back to relationship-building</li><li>How to safely introduce AI across different generations and comfort levels</li><li>Essential advice for new HR professionals: Understand your organization's core business first</li></ul><br/><p>If you're an HR leader wondering how to address AI anxiety in your organization while leveraging technology to enhance rather than replace human capabilities, this episode provides both empathy and practical strategies for transformation</p><p><strong>Additional resources:</strong></p><p><a href="https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot</a></p><p><a href="https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Future Proof HR Community</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/psuenewman/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sue Newman on LinkedIn</a></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">72bdcc6a-d55b-45c9-a538-d607a33fe5ce</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2025 13:00:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/72bdcc6a-d55b-45c9-a538-d607a33fe5ce.mp3" length="35212989" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>36:41</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>14</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Breaking The Fear Barrier: How HR Can Lead the AI Revolution</title><itunes:title>Breaking The Fear Barrier: How HR Can Lead the AI Revolution</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Courtney LaTurner, Senior Director, People Operations &amp; HR Business Partner at SecurityScorecard, to explore how HR professionals can overcome AI anxiety and leverage automation to become more strategic business partners.</p><p>From navigating startup acquisitions to private equity spinoffs, Courtney shares her journey of building agile HR functions that adapt quickly to business needs. When suddenly tasked with payroll, benefits, and people operations. Areas she'd never managed before she discovered how AI tools like ChatGPT became essential for learning new skills and tackling complex challenges under tight deadlines.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>Why HR has been slower to adopt AI compared to other functions (and the fear factors behind it)</li><li>Two game-changing AI use cases: Excel formula mastery and coaching for difficult conversations</li><li>How to safely introduce AI to your HR team and overcome resistance to change</li><li>SecurityScorecard's "AI IRL" company-wide challenge that drove innovation across all departments</li><li>The strategic advantage of getting through your backlog faster than competitors</li><li>Why AI amplifies rather than replaces HR professionals' core value</li><li>Building enterprise-safe AI practices with proper IT partnerships and data protection</li><li>The future role of HR as strategic business advisors rather than process executors</li><li>Essential advice for new HR professionals: be deeply curious and challenge the status quo</li><li>How to position HR as a competitive advantage through automation and efficiency</li></ul><br/><p>If you're an HR professional feeling overwhelmed by expanding responsibilities or wondering how to leverage AI while maintaining the human element, this episode provides practical strategies for transforming your function into a strategic powerhouse.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Courtney LaTurner, Senior Director, People Operations &amp; HR Business Partner at SecurityScorecard, to explore how HR professionals can overcome AI anxiety and leverage automation to become more strategic business partners.</p><p>From navigating startup acquisitions to private equity spinoffs, Courtney shares her journey of building agile HR functions that adapt quickly to business needs. When suddenly tasked with payroll, benefits, and people operations. Areas she'd never managed before she discovered how AI tools like ChatGPT became essential for learning new skills and tackling complex challenges under tight deadlines.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>Why HR has been slower to adopt AI compared to other functions (and the fear factors behind it)</li><li>Two game-changing AI use cases: Excel formula mastery and coaching for difficult conversations</li><li>How to safely introduce AI to your HR team and overcome resistance to change</li><li>SecurityScorecard's "AI IRL" company-wide challenge that drove innovation across all departments</li><li>The strategic advantage of getting through your backlog faster than competitors</li><li>Why AI amplifies rather than replaces HR professionals' core value</li><li>Building enterprise-safe AI practices with proper IT partnerships and data protection</li><li>The future role of HR as strategic business advisors rather than process executors</li><li>Essential advice for new HR professionals: be deeply curious and challenge the status quo</li><li>How to position HR as a competitive advantage through automation and efficiency</li></ul><br/><p>If you're an HR professional feeling overwhelmed by expanding responsibilities or wondering how to leverage AI while maintaining the human element, this episode provides practical strategies for transforming your function into a strategic powerhouse.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">b755244e-e71b-4744-a251-ba2bc13ddc9d</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2025 12:55:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/b755244e-e71b-4744-a251-ba2bc13ddc9d.mp3" length="35049985" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>36:31</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>13</podcast:episode></item><item><title>HR Across Decades and Industries: Building Trust, Leveraging AI, and Leading Tomorrow&apos;s Workforce</title><itunes:title>HR Across Decades and Industries: Building Trust, Leveraging AI, and Leading Tomorrow&apos;s Workforce</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Donna Beasley, Vice President of Human Resources at Alumus, to talk about how HR can stay relevant, build trust with executives, and thoughtfully embrace AI without losing the human touch.</p><p>With decades of experience leading HR strategy across government, healthcare, and the private sector, Donna shares how her “3 Cs” framework- Customer Service, Compliance, and Collaboration helps HR teams drive value, gain executive buy-in, and future-proof the function.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>Why HR must evolve from transactional to strategic business partner</li><li>The "3 C's" framework for building executive trust and implementing programs</li><li>How to lay a solid HR foundation with systematic compliance audits</li><li>Using AI for job descriptions, policy research, and recruiting innovations</li><li>Why being a "people person" isn't enough for modern HR success</li><li>Creating a professional balance between empathy and tough decisions</li><li>How HR can become more ingrained in organizations, not isolated</li><li>Building employee engagement through recognition and connection platforms</li><li>Mentoring the next generation of HR leaders for future challenges</li><li>And more!</li></ul><br/><p>If you’re navigating change, scaling your HR team, or wondering how to use AI responsibly without compromising your people-first values, this conversation is for you.</p><p>Plus, don’t miss Donna’s recommended classic: “The Strangest Secret” by Earl Nightingale—an old-school but timeless guide to achieving success with intention.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Donna Beasley, Vice President of Human Resources at Alumus, to talk about how HR can stay relevant, build trust with executives, and thoughtfully embrace AI without losing the human touch.</p><p>With decades of experience leading HR strategy across government, healthcare, and the private sector, Donna shares how her “3 Cs” framework- Customer Service, Compliance, and Collaboration helps HR teams drive value, gain executive buy-in, and future-proof the function.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>Why HR must evolve from transactional to strategic business partner</li><li>The "3 C's" framework for building executive trust and implementing programs</li><li>How to lay a solid HR foundation with systematic compliance audits</li><li>Using AI for job descriptions, policy research, and recruiting innovations</li><li>Why being a "people person" isn't enough for modern HR success</li><li>Creating a professional balance between empathy and tough decisions</li><li>How HR can become more ingrained in organizations, not isolated</li><li>Building employee engagement through recognition and connection platforms</li><li>Mentoring the next generation of HR leaders for future challenges</li><li>And more!</li></ul><br/><p>If you’re navigating change, scaling your HR team, or wondering how to use AI responsibly without compromising your people-first values, this conversation is for you.</p><p>Plus, don’t miss Donna’s recommended classic: “The Strangest Secret” by Earl Nightingale—an old-school but timeless guide to achieving success with intention.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">8a0b3712-2cec-4ca9-91f8-f027123d2441</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2025 12:53:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/8a0b3712-2cec-4ca9-91f8-f027123d2441.mp3" length="34858977" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>36:19</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>12</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Distrupt The Process, Not The People: Building Human-Centered HR with AI</title><itunes:title>Distrupt The Process, Not The People: Building Human-Centered HR with AI</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Heather Hiddleston, Chief Human Resources Officer at Athletic Brewing Co. to talk about how small HR teams can lead meaningful innovation with AI—without losing the human touch.</p><p>With a background spanning Apple, Constellation Brands, and Stone Brewing, Heather shares how transparency, empowerment, and strategic experimentation are helping Athletic Brewing Co. build a more modern, values-driven workplace.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>Why HR should automate process work to refocus on people's work</li><li>What “nice-to-have” moments AI can finally make possible</li><li>How to drive AI adoption across a diverse, distributed workforce</li><li>Creating two-way conversations about AI with transparency</li><li>Where compliance boundaries should (and shouldn’t) be drawn</li><li>Reimagining HR structure: fewer silos, stronger generalists</li><li>How small teams can level up with AI-powered L&amp;D and workflows</li><li>And more!</li></ul><br/><p>If you're building people strategy with limited headcount—or wondering how to use AI without compromising your culture—this one’s for you.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Heather Hiddleston, Chief Human Resources Officer at Athletic Brewing Co. to talk about how small HR teams can lead meaningful innovation with AI—without losing the human touch.</p><p>With a background spanning Apple, Constellation Brands, and Stone Brewing, Heather shares how transparency, empowerment, and strategic experimentation are helping Athletic Brewing Co. build a more modern, values-driven workplace.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>Why HR should automate process work to refocus on people's work</li><li>What “nice-to-have” moments AI can finally make possible</li><li>How to drive AI adoption across a diverse, distributed workforce</li><li>Creating two-way conversations about AI with transparency</li><li>Where compliance boundaries should (and shouldn’t) be drawn</li><li>Reimagining HR structure: fewer silos, stronger generalists</li><li>How small teams can level up with AI-powered L&amp;D and workflows</li><li>And more!</li></ul><br/><p>If you're building people strategy with limited headcount—or wondering how to use AI without compromising your culture—this one’s for you.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">9722a1a9-e959-4be7-8ab3-da4b4e1d9db3</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2025 12:51:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/9722a1a9-e959-4be7-8ab3-da4b4e1d9db3.mp3" length="35764695" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>37:15</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>11</podcast:episode></item><item><title>HR Under Pressure: What Small Teams Can Teach Us About the Future</title><itunes:title>HR Under Pressure: What Small Teams Can Teach Us About the Future</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Michael Salamey, an HR leader with deep experience in tech, employee engagement, and workforce analytics, to talk about the realities of running lean HR teams in today’s AI-driven world. Drawing on his experience leading small HR teams across industries, Michael shares why smaller often means sharper—and how embracing limitations can build better HR leaders.</p><p>Topics Discussed:</p><ul><li>The hidden strengths of small, scrappy HR teams</li><li>How collapsing roles creates broader, deeper skill sets</li><li>Why most tech evaluations get silently deprioritized</li><li>The paradox of AI adoption in under-resourced orgs</li><li>Tactical ways small teams can still experiment with automation</li><li>A candid take on today’s messy job market and hiring tools</li><li>How to avoid overengineering your HR function</li><li>Where AI can help (and where it still falls short)</li></ul><br/><p>If you’ve ever been the one-person HR department—or worked like one—this episode will feel like a conversation you didn’t know you needed.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Michael Salamey, an HR leader with deep experience in tech, employee engagement, and workforce analytics, to talk about the realities of running lean HR teams in today’s AI-driven world. Drawing on his experience leading small HR teams across industries, Michael shares why smaller often means sharper—and how embracing limitations can build better HR leaders.</p><p>Topics Discussed:</p><ul><li>The hidden strengths of small, scrappy HR teams</li><li>How collapsing roles creates broader, deeper skill sets</li><li>Why most tech evaluations get silently deprioritized</li><li>The paradox of AI adoption in under-resourced orgs</li><li>Tactical ways small teams can still experiment with automation</li><li>A candid take on today’s messy job market and hiring tools</li><li>How to avoid overengineering your HR function</li><li>Where AI can help (and where it still falls short)</li></ul><br/><p>If you’ve ever been the one-person HR department—or worked like one—this episode will feel like a conversation you didn’t know you needed.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5f3397a4-cfff-4497-bf20-684bcb5df6f9</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2025 12:49:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/5f3397a4-cfff-4497-bf20-684bcb5df6f9.mp3" length="50484381" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>52:35</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>10</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Full Contact HR: Driving Growth, Owning Outcomes, Leading Change</title><itunes:title>Full Contact HR: Driving Growth, Owning Outcomes, Leading Change</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Dennis Richter, Chief People Officer at Fullscript, to talk about how HR can evolve from a back-office function to a business-critical partner. With a background that spans the Army, global operations, and high-growth tech, Dennis shares how his philosophy of accountability, business fluency, and people-first leadership is helping reshape the HR function.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>Why defining accountability clearly can unlock real ownership</li><li>The hidden cost of “people tax”—and how to reduce it</li><li>Why HR teams should think of themselves as revenue-affecting</li><li>How to bring execs and managers along for cultural change</li><li>The second-degree nature of HR and how to influence outcomes</li><li>Proactive people partnership vs. reactive support</li><li>Where HR is headed as automation and AI shift entry points</li><li>And more!</li></ul><br/><p>If you’re leading people in a fast-changing org, this conversation will hit home.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Dennis Richter, Chief People Officer at Fullscript, to talk about how HR can evolve from a back-office function to a business-critical partner. With a background that spans the Army, global operations, and high-growth tech, Dennis shares how his philosophy of accountability, business fluency, and people-first leadership is helping reshape the HR function.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>Why defining accountability clearly can unlock real ownership</li><li>The hidden cost of “people tax”—and how to reduce it</li><li>Why HR teams should think of themselves as revenue-affecting</li><li>How to bring execs and managers along for cultural change</li><li>The second-degree nature of HR and how to influence outcomes</li><li>Proactive people partnership vs. reactive support</li><li>Where HR is headed as automation and AI shift entry points</li><li>And more!</li></ul><br/><p>If you’re leading people in a fast-changing org, this conversation will hit home.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">181ada67-e5d6-4c75-99e3-df79c1efaccf</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2025 12:48:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/181ada67-e5d6-4c75-99e3-df79c1efaccf.mp3" length="46551586" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>48:15</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>9</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Crack the Hatch, Bring a Chair, Know the Numbers: HR That Wins</title><itunes:title>Crack the Hatch, Bring a Chair, Know the Numbers: HR That Wins</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with L. David Kingsley (LDK), Chief People Officer at Illumio, to talk about what it really takes for HR to operate like a business partner—not a back-office function. Drawing on experience from Accenture to the Navy Reserve to scaling global orgs, LDK breaks down how HR teams can earn their place at the table through authenticity, numeracy, and a relentless focus on enabling the business.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>Why HR needs to think like consultants—and act like owners</li><li>The “value continuum” from necessary evil to trusted advisor</li><li>What makes a people team M&amp;A-ready (or not)</li><li>How AI, belonging, and metrics shape the future of HR</li><li>And more!</li></ul><br/><p>If you're leading a people team or want to, this one’s for you.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with L. David Kingsley (LDK), Chief People Officer at Illumio, to talk about what it really takes for HR to operate like a business partner—not a back-office function. Drawing on experience from Accenture to the Navy Reserve to scaling global orgs, LDK breaks down how HR teams can earn their place at the table through authenticity, numeracy, and a relentless focus on enabling the business.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>Why HR needs to think like consultants—and act like owners</li><li>The “value continuum” from necessary evil to trusted advisor</li><li>What makes a people team M&amp;A-ready (or not)</li><li>How AI, belonging, and metrics shape the future of HR</li><li>And more!</li></ul><br/><p>If you're leading a people team or want to, this one’s for you.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">80f337d7-a815-4b27-ba3b-9de71bde0ecb</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2025 12:46:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/80f337d7-a815-4b27-ba3b-9de71bde0ecb.mp3" length="49130612" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>51:11</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>8</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Next-Gen HR: Data-Led, Human-Centered, Future-Ready</title><itunes:title>Next-Gen HR: Data-Led, Human-Centered, Future-Ready</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Future Proof HR, Thomas Kunjappu chats with Amy Boque, Chief People Officer at Kelly, about what it&nbsp;<em>really</em>&nbsp;takes to modernize HR. Amy walks us through the transformation she led at Kelly—shifting the perception of HR from an administrative support team to a strategic business function.</p><p>With a background in manufacturing and a no-nonsense approach to process improvement, Amy shares how she empowered her team to simplify workflows, embrace discomfort, and get scrappy—before any big tech investments were even on the table.</p><p>She also discusses the evolving expectations of employees, how to design HR around access and empowerment, and the mindset shift needed to help HRBPs break free from transactional work and become true business consultants.</p><p>Amy’s insights offer a roadmap for HR leaders looking to drive impact without losing the human touch.</p><p>Topics Discussed:</p><ul><li>Repositioning HR from transactional to strategic</li><li>Empowering teams to rethink outdated processes</li><li>Building self-service and data access for employees and leaders</li><li>Redefining the HRBP role to focus on business consulting</li><li>AI’s role in enabling faster, more meaningful HR insights</li><li>And more!</li></ul><br/><p>Listen in to learn how Amy’s people-first mindset is shaping the future of HR.&nbsp;</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Future Proof HR, Thomas Kunjappu chats with Amy Boque, Chief People Officer at Kelly, about what it&nbsp;<em>really</em>&nbsp;takes to modernize HR. Amy walks us through the transformation she led at Kelly—shifting the perception of HR from an administrative support team to a strategic business function.</p><p>With a background in manufacturing and a no-nonsense approach to process improvement, Amy shares how she empowered her team to simplify workflows, embrace discomfort, and get scrappy—before any big tech investments were even on the table.</p><p>She also discusses the evolving expectations of employees, how to design HR around access and empowerment, and the mindset shift needed to help HRBPs break free from transactional work and become true business consultants.</p><p>Amy’s insights offer a roadmap for HR leaders looking to drive impact without losing the human touch.</p><p>Topics Discussed:</p><ul><li>Repositioning HR from transactional to strategic</li><li>Empowering teams to rethink outdated processes</li><li>Building self-service and data access for employees and leaders</li><li>Redefining the HRBP role to focus on business consulting</li><li>AI’s role in enabling faster, more meaningful HR insights</li><li>And more!</li></ul><br/><p>Listen in to learn how Amy’s people-first mindset is shaping the future of HR.&nbsp;</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">90ca1dd9-b8e7-402a-9842-55489913d3fc</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2025 12:44:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/90ca1dd9-b8e7-402a-9842-55489913d3fc.mp3" length="35791026" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>37:17</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>7</podcast:episode></item><item><title>The HR Revolution Data, Storytelling, and Breaking the Old Playbook - 128</title><itunes:title>The HR Revolution Data, Storytelling, and Breaking the Old Playbook - 128</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Future Proof HR, Craig Haydamack, CHRO at USIC, joins Thomas Kunjappu to break down the power of HR analytics in shaping workforce strategies and influencing executive decision-making.</p><p>With a background spanning finance, IT, and HR, Craig shares how HR professionals can leverage data, tell compelling stories, and align HR initiatives with business goals. He explains how HR teams can move beyond gut feelings and use metrics, benchmarks, and financial storytelling to prove the business impact of their work.</p><p>Craig also discusses the evolution of HR analytics, how AI is accelerating data-driven HR, and why HR leaders need to speak the language of the C-suite to drive real change.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>Craig’s career journey from finance and IT to CHRO</li><li>How HR analytics can drive strategic decision-making</li><li>The role of data storytelling in securing executive buy-in</li><li>Why HR teams should adopt financial and operational mindsets</li><li>The importance of external benchmarks in workforce planning</li><li>How AI and automation are transforming HR analytics</li></ul><br/><p>Listen in to learn how HR leaders can harness data to shape the future of work and make HR a true business driver.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><p><strong>Future Proof HR Community:&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://www.gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.gocleary.com/cleary-community/</a></p><p><strong>Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot:&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://www.gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/</a></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Future Proof HR, Craig Haydamack, CHRO at USIC, joins Thomas Kunjappu to break down the power of HR analytics in shaping workforce strategies and influencing executive decision-making.</p><p>With a background spanning finance, IT, and HR, Craig shares how HR professionals can leverage data, tell compelling stories, and align HR initiatives with business goals. He explains how HR teams can move beyond gut feelings and use metrics, benchmarks, and financial storytelling to prove the business impact of their work.</p><p>Craig also discusses the evolution of HR analytics, how AI is accelerating data-driven HR, and why HR leaders need to speak the language of the C-suite to drive real change.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>Craig’s career journey from finance and IT to CHRO</li><li>How HR analytics can drive strategic decision-making</li><li>The role of data storytelling in securing executive buy-in</li><li>Why HR teams should adopt financial and operational mindsets</li><li>The importance of external benchmarks in workforce planning</li><li>How AI and automation are transforming HR analytics</li></ul><br/><p>Listen in to learn how HR leaders can harness data to shape the future of work and make HR a true business driver.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources:</strong></p><p><strong>Future Proof HR Community:&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://www.gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.gocleary.com/cleary-community/</a></p><p><strong>Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot:&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://www.gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/</a></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">f3e2fd2f-6600-4c33-b856-b0aaca146a9d</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2025 12:42:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/f3e2fd2f-6600-4c33-b856-b0aaca146a9d.mp3" length="48138795" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>50:09</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>6</podcast:episode></item><item><title>From HR to Business Powerhouse Scaling for What’s Next - 128</title><itunes:title>From HR to Business Powerhouse Scaling for What’s Next - 128</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Future Proof HR, Angela Briggs-Paige, Chief Human Resources Officer at Acelero, shares how she stepped into the company as its first-ever CHRO and led a bold HR transformation. Faced with a legacy HR structure focused on compliance and administration, Angela set out to modernize processes, restructure teams, and rebrand HR as a strategic driver of business outcomes.</p><p>Angela breaks down her first 90 days, where she focused on listening, auditing HR operations, and identifying inefficiencies. She also shares how her team reduced hiring time from 88 days to 29 days, filled hundreds of open roles, and built a more agile, skills-based approach to workforce development.</p><p>Throughout the conversation, Angela offers insights on how HR leaders can shift from being order takers to business enablers by aligning HR strategies with organizational goals, improving employee experience, and making data-driven decisions.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>Angela’s journey as the first CHRO at Acelero and her approach to transformation</li><li>How HR evolved from an administrative function to a strategic business partner</li><li>The role of skills-first hiring in building a stronger workforce</li><li>Rebranding HR to improve employee engagement and business alignment</li><li>Why traditional performance management needs a complete overhaul</li><li>The power of data in driving better decision-making in HR</li></ul><br/><p>Listen in to learn how to future-proof HR and build a high-impact people strategy that drives real business success!</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Future Proof HR, Angela Briggs-Paige, Chief Human Resources Officer at Acelero, shares how she stepped into the company as its first-ever CHRO and led a bold HR transformation. Faced with a legacy HR structure focused on compliance and administration, Angela set out to modernize processes, restructure teams, and rebrand HR as a strategic driver of business outcomes.</p><p>Angela breaks down her first 90 days, where she focused on listening, auditing HR operations, and identifying inefficiencies. She also shares how her team reduced hiring time from 88 days to 29 days, filled hundreds of open roles, and built a more agile, skills-based approach to workforce development.</p><p>Throughout the conversation, Angela offers insights on how HR leaders can shift from being order takers to business enablers by aligning HR strategies with organizational goals, improving employee experience, and making data-driven decisions.</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>Angela’s journey as the first CHRO at Acelero and her approach to transformation</li><li>How HR evolved from an administrative function to a strategic business partner</li><li>The role of skills-first hiring in building a stronger workforce</li><li>Rebranding HR to improve employee engagement and business alignment</li><li>Why traditional performance management needs a complete overhaul</li><li>The power of data in driving better decision-making in HR</li></ul><br/><p>Listen in to learn how to future-proof HR and build a high-impact people strategy that drives real business success!</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">67511281-5697-44d9-a3af-d85346eb828c</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 05 Feb 2025 12:32:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/67511281-5697-44d9-a3af-d85346eb828c.mp3" length="41373289" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>43:06</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>5</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Building a Future Ready HR Leadership Strategy and People Impact</title><itunes:title>Building a Future Ready HR Leadership Strategy and People Impact</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Future Proof HR, Thomas Kunjappu chats with Quentin Misenheimer, Chief People Officer at Garlock Flexibles, to explore his journey from military service to corporate HR leadership. Quentin reflects on how HR has evolved from an administrative function to a trusted business partner, highlighting his early experiences managing a night shift and learning how HR can shape organizational success.</p><p>Quentin shares insights on leadership, emphasizing the importance of trust, flexibility, and being proactive. He also discusses how COVID reshaped work dynamics, driving a need for balance between flexibility and collaboration. Quentin's vision of HR centers on building strong business relationships, embedding HR into teams, and continuously adapting through technology and culture stewardship.</p><p>Finally, Quentin gives tactical advice on career growth, including the value of patience, mentorship, and developing leadership skills. If you want to learn how HR can become both Yoda and a trusted advisor in your organization, you won’t want to miss this episode!</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>Quentin’s transition from military to HR leadership</li><li>The evolving role of HR from personnel to strategic partner</li><li>Leadership lessons: trust, team-building, and flexibility</li><li>Navigating workforce shifts and leadership development post-COVID</li><li>Career pathing and preparing employees for leadership roles</li></ul><br/><p>Listen in to stay ahead in HR and future-proof your career!</p><p><strong>Future Proof HR Community:&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://www.gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.gocleary.com/cleary-community/</a></p><p><strong>Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot:&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://www.gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/</a></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Future Proof HR, Thomas Kunjappu chats with Quentin Misenheimer, Chief People Officer at Garlock Flexibles, to explore his journey from military service to corporate HR leadership. Quentin reflects on how HR has evolved from an administrative function to a trusted business partner, highlighting his early experiences managing a night shift and learning how HR can shape organizational success.</p><p>Quentin shares insights on leadership, emphasizing the importance of trust, flexibility, and being proactive. He also discusses how COVID reshaped work dynamics, driving a need for balance between flexibility and collaboration. Quentin's vision of HR centers on building strong business relationships, embedding HR into teams, and continuously adapting through technology and culture stewardship.</p><p>Finally, Quentin gives tactical advice on career growth, including the value of patience, mentorship, and developing leadership skills. If you want to learn how HR can become both Yoda and a trusted advisor in your organization, you won’t want to miss this episode!</p><p><strong>Topics Discussed:</strong></p><ul><li>Quentin’s transition from military to HR leadership</li><li>The evolving role of HR from personnel to strategic partner</li><li>Leadership lessons: trust, team-building, and flexibility</li><li>Navigating workforce shifts and leadership development post-COVID</li><li>Career pathing and preparing employees for leadership roles</li></ul><br/><p>Listen in to stay ahead in HR and future-proof your career!</p><p><strong>Future Proof HR Community:&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://www.gocleary.com/cleary-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.gocleary.com/cleary-community/</a></p><p><strong>Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot:&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://www.gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/</a></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">aee40f29-2617-46fd-b639-81a0aeb2b123</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2025 12:30:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/aee40f29-2617-46fd-b639-81a0aeb2b123.mp3" length="38526497" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>39:49</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>4</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Driving HR Forward: Leadership, Strategy, and the Future of Work</title><itunes:title>Driving HR Forward: Leadership, Strategy, and the Future of Work</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to the third episode of Future Proof HR, where we explore the trends, strategies, and innovations shaping the future of HR leadership and workforce transformation. This week, we’re joined by David Dart, Chief People Officer at Caliber, as we dive into how HR leaders can drive impact across industries and adapt to a rapidly changing HR environment.</p><p><strong>In this episode, we’ll discuss:</strong></p><ul><li>How HR leaders can align with business strategy to deliver meaningful outcomes.</li><li>The evolving expectations for HR in the post-pandemic workforce.</li><li>Innovative approaches to training and workforce enablement at scale.</li><li>Key trends in hybrid work and building a connected workforce.</li><li>The role of technology and tools in supporting HR’s mission to empower employees and managers.</li></ul><br/><p>If you’re an HR professional or leader looking to stay ahead of the curve, this episode is packed with insights to help you rethink the role of HR in shaping the future of work.</p><p><strong>Future Proof HR Community:&nbsp;</strong>www.gocleary.com/cleary-community/</p><p><strong>Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot:&nbsp;</strong>www.gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to the third episode of Future Proof HR, where we explore the trends, strategies, and innovations shaping the future of HR leadership and workforce transformation. This week, we’re joined by David Dart, Chief People Officer at Caliber, as we dive into how HR leaders can drive impact across industries and adapt to a rapidly changing HR environment.</p><p><strong>In this episode, we’ll discuss:</strong></p><ul><li>How HR leaders can align with business strategy to deliver meaningful outcomes.</li><li>The evolving expectations for HR in the post-pandemic workforce.</li><li>Innovative approaches to training and workforce enablement at scale.</li><li>Key trends in hybrid work and building a connected workforce.</li><li>The role of technology and tools in supporting HR’s mission to empower employees and managers.</li></ul><br/><p>If you’re an HR professional or leader looking to stay ahead of the curve, this episode is packed with insights to help you rethink the role of HR in shaping the future of work.</p><p><strong>Future Proof HR Community:&nbsp;</strong>www.gocleary.com/cleary-community/</p><p><strong>Cleary’s AI-powered HR Chatbot:&nbsp;</strong>www.gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">dea57e28-ea50-4a34-bf2c-4c874bf6810a</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Thu, 12 Dec 2024 12:25:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/dea57e28-ea50-4a34-bf2c-4c874bf6810a.mp3" length="47846539" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>49:32</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>3</podcast:episode></item><item><title>The Future of HR: AI Cementing HR’s Seat at the Executive Table</title><itunes:title>The Future of HR: AI Cementing HR’s Seat at the Executive Table</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to the second episode of Future Proof HR, where we explore how technology is transforming the HR landscape. In this episode, we’re diving into one of the most pressing topics for HR leaders: How AI can help HR secure its seat at the executive table.</p><p>In this episode, we’ll discuss:</p><p><br></p><p>Why now is the time for HR leaders to step up and drive AI innovation within their organizations.</p><p>The shifting role of HR—how the post-pandemic environment and efficiency demands are changing expectations for HR teams.</p><p>Key opportunities for AI to transform HR service delivery, operations, and recruiting.</p><p>Practical examples of how AI-driven automation can reduce workloads, improve employee experience, and free HR to focus on strategic priorities.</p><p>Why starting small with AI experiments can lead to big wins, and how Cleary’s AI tools are enabling HR leaders to do just that.</p><p>If you’re an HR professional or curious about the future of work, this episode will offer valuable insights on how to leverage AI to make a lasting impact in your organization. Let’s explore how AI can help HR teams not only keep their seat at the table but lead the charge in shaping the future of work.</p><p><br></p><p>Future Proof HR Community: https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/</p><p>Cleary's AI-powered HR Chatbot: https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to the second episode of Future Proof HR, where we explore how technology is transforming the HR landscape. In this episode, we’re diving into one of the most pressing topics for HR leaders: How AI can help HR secure its seat at the executive table.</p><p>In this episode, we’ll discuss:</p><p><br></p><p>Why now is the time for HR leaders to step up and drive AI innovation within their organizations.</p><p>The shifting role of HR—how the post-pandemic environment and efficiency demands are changing expectations for HR teams.</p><p>Key opportunities for AI to transform HR service delivery, operations, and recruiting.</p><p>Practical examples of how AI-driven automation can reduce workloads, improve employee experience, and free HR to focus on strategic priorities.</p><p>Why starting small with AI experiments can lead to big wins, and how Cleary’s AI tools are enabling HR leaders to do just that.</p><p>If you’re an HR professional or curious about the future of work, this episode will offer valuable insights on how to leverage AI to make a lasting impact in your organization. Let’s explore how AI can help HR teams not only keep their seat at the table but lead the charge in shaping the future of work.</p><p><br></p><p>Future Proof HR Community: https://gocleary.com/cleary-community/</p><p>Cleary's AI-powered HR Chatbot: https://gocleary.com/hr-chatbot/</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">e6acc040-349f-41f1-a150-25b47807e36b</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 09 Oct 2024 13:17:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/e6acc040-349f-41f1-a150-25b47807e36b.mp3" length="20158935" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>21:00</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>2</podcast:episode></item><item><title>The HR Support Model of Tomorrow</title><itunes:title>The HR Support Model of Tomorrow</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to the very first episode of&nbsp;<strong>Future Proof HR Podcast</strong>! We’re diving into what the future holds for HR teams and how technology is changing the game. Right now, HR teams spend most of their time reacting to repetitive requests and handling day-to-day tasks. But that’s about to change.</p><p>In this episode, we’ll chat about:</p><ul><li><strong>Why HR teams feel stuck in reactive mode</strong>&nbsp;– and what’s keeping them there.</li><li><strong>The three-tier HR support model</strong>&nbsp;– What’s Tier 0, Tier 1, and Tier 2? And how are they shifting?</li><li><strong>How AI is going to shake things up</strong>&nbsp;– moving those repetitive tasks to automation so HR pros can focus on strategy and people.</li><li><strong>The rise of AI co-pilots</strong>&nbsp;– helping HR teams work smarter, not harder.</li><li><strong>What the HR support model of tomorrow looks like</strong>&nbsp;– Hint: It’s a lot more efficient, with a focus on enabling employees and managers to self-service the answers they need.</li><li><strong>Big trends driving this shift</strong>&nbsp;– from hybrid work to compliance challenges.</li></ul><br/><p>Whether you’re in HR or just curious about how tech is transforming the workplace, this episode will give you a sneak peek into what’s next for the world of HR. Let’s explore how AI can take HR from reactive to proactive, creating more space for what matters most:&nbsp;<strong>people</strong>.&nbsp;</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to the very first episode of&nbsp;<strong>Future Proof HR Podcast</strong>! We’re diving into what the future holds for HR teams and how technology is changing the game. Right now, HR teams spend most of their time reacting to repetitive requests and handling day-to-day tasks. But that’s about to change.</p><p>In this episode, we’ll chat about:</p><ul><li><strong>Why HR teams feel stuck in reactive mode</strong>&nbsp;– and what’s keeping them there.</li><li><strong>The three-tier HR support model</strong>&nbsp;– What’s Tier 0, Tier 1, and Tier 2? And how are they shifting?</li><li><strong>How AI is going to shake things up</strong>&nbsp;– moving those repetitive tasks to automation so HR pros can focus on strategy and people.</li><li><strong>The rise of AI co-pilots</strong>&nbsp;– helping HR teams work smarter, not harder.</li><li><strong>What the HR support model of tomorrow looks like</strong>&nbsp;– Hint: It’s a lot more efficient, with a focus on enabling employees and managers to self-service the answers they need.</li><li><strong>Big trends driving this shift</strong>&nbsp;– from hybrid work to compliance challenges.</li></ul><br/><p>Whether you’re in HR or just curious about how tech is transforming the workplace, this episode will give you a sneak peek into what’s next for the world of HR. Let’s explore how AI can take HR from reactive to proactive, creating more space for what matters most:&nbsp;<strong>people</strong>.&nbsp;</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://gocleary.com/cleary-podcast/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">2f981382-614d-4266-9234-e501a7142f6b</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13c6a670-f8fd-4dcc-810c-5594966da90d/New-Copy.png"/><pubDate>Tue, 24 Sep 2024 13:16:00 -0700</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/2f981382-614d-4266-9234-e501a7142f6b.mp3" length="11999118" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>12:30</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>1</podcast:episode></item></channel></rss>