<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><?xml-stylesheet href="https://feeds.captivate.fm/style.xsl" type="text/xsl"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:googleplay="http://www.google.com/schemas/play-podcasts/1.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" xmlns:podcast="https://podcastindex.org/namespace/1.0"><channel><atom:link href="https://feeds.captivate.fm/have-toga-will-travel/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><title><![CDATA[Have Toga, Will Travel: Exploring Greece and Rome, Ancient and Modern]]></title><podcast:guid>9657fd62-eadc-54da-87d7-bd74bab4d9e9</podcast:guid><lastBuildDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2026 14:09:59 +0000</lastBuildDate><generator>Captivate.fm</generator><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><copyright><![CDATA[Copyright 2025 Emily Jusino and Cam Hawkins]]></copyright><managingEditor>Emily Jusino, PhD (Classics) and Cam Hawkins, PhD (Ancient History)</managingEditor><itunes:summary><![CDATA[A podcast exploring the Mediterranean world, ancient and modern, through the eyes of two former Classics professors. Join Emily and Cam as they chat about all things Ancient Greek and Roman and share their own adventures exploring the Mediterranean world through history, travel, literature, and film.

We release new episodes on or about the 1st and 15th of every month.

https://havetogawilltravel.com]]></itunes:summary><image><url>https://artwork.captivate.fm/36fb6ce3-5a9b-4248-87ab-1d11bae6ac0b/keBH_dYzhXLpSXlzA4svk9D_.png</url><title>Have Toga, Will Travel: Exploring Greece and Rome, Ancient and Modern</title><link><![CDATA[https://havetogawilltravel.com]]></link></image><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/36fb6ce3-5a9b-4248-87ab-1d11bae6ac0b/keBH_dYzhXLpSXlzA4svk9D_.png"/><itunes:owner><itunes:name>Emily Jusino, PhD (Classics) and Cam Hawkins, PhD (Ancient History)</itunes:name></itunes:owner><itunes:author>Emily Jusino, PhD (Classics) and Cam Hawkins, PhD (Ancient History)</itunes:author><description>A podcast exploring the Mediterranean world, ancient and modern, through the eyes of two former Classics professors. Join Emily and Cam as they chat about all things Ancient Greek and Roman and share their own adventures exploring the Mediterranean world through history, travel, literature, and film.

We release new episodes on or about the 1st and 15th of every month.

https://havetogawilltravel.com</description><link>https://havetogawilltravel.com</link><atom:link href="https://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com" rel="hub"/><itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Exploring Greece and Rome, Ancient and Modern]]></itunes:subtitle><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:type>episodic</itunes:type><itunes:category text="History"></itunes:category><itunes:category text="Society &amp; Culture"><itunes:category text="Places &amp; Travel"/></itunes:category><podcast:locked>no</podcast:locked><podcast:medium>podcast</podcast:medium><item><title>Hadrian’s Wall, Part I: The Romans in Britain and the Imperial Frontier</title><itunes:title>Hadrian’s Wall, Part I: The Romans in Britain and the Imperial Frontier</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Join Emily and Cam as they discuss the Romans in Britain from the time of Caesar to the emperor Hadrian, and then talk about Hadrian’s monumental wall—what it was, how it was built, what it was for, and why some bits of it still survive today.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ol><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><u>https://havetogawilltravel.com</u></a></li></ol><br/><p>Links</p><ol><li>David Keys, <a href="https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/roman-invasion-beach-found-in-kent-949717.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><u>“Roman Invasion Beach Found in Kent”</u></a>, The Independent (Friday October 3, 2008).</li></ol><br/><p>----------</p><p>00:11 - Introduction</p><p>01:58 - The Romans in Britain, from Caesar to Hadrian</p><ol><li>02:22 - Caesar’s campaigns in Gaul and Britain, and their aftermath</li><li>03:35 - Claudius “defeats” Caratacus and conquers southern England</li><li>13:37 - Boudicca’s Rebellion</li><li>18:54 - Vespasian and the governorship of Agricola</li><li>22:05 - Hadrian visits the frontier</li></ol><br/><p>23:31 - Building Hadrian’s Wall</p><ol><li>23:25 - The route: from Segedunum to Maia</li><li>25:41 - The wall and its features: stone, turf, milecastles, turrets, and outworks</li><li>28:57 - Why build part in stone and part in turf?</li><li>29:28 - The legions and the process of building the wall</li><li>32:25 - Changing plans: wall gauges, wall forts, and turf replaced by stone</li></ol><br/><p>37:56 - The Purpose of Hadrian’s Wall</p><ol><li>38:25 - Some puzzling features of Rome’s northern frontier</li><li>39:07 - A zone of transition: the Roman Empire and British social structures</li><li>44:22 - The Romans, the Wall, and the transformation of Britain</li></ol><br/><p>46:24 - The Wall after Hadrian</p><ol><li>46:42 - The Wall from Antoninus Pius to Septimius Severus</li><li>49:04 - The Wall in the time of Bede</li><li>51:17 - The 17th and 18th centuries: Hadrian’s Wall and the Military Road</li><li>53:19 - John Clayton</li><li>54:39 - The National Trust and UNESCO</li></ol><br/><p>55:20 - Wrap-up</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Join Emily and Cam as they discuss the Romans in Britain from the time of Caesar to the emperor Hadrian, and then talk about Hadrian’s monumental wall—what it was, how it was built, what it was for, and why some bits of it still survive today.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ol><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><u>https://havetogawilltravel.com</u></a></li></ol><br/><p>Links</p><ol><li>David Keys, <a href="https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/roman-invasion-beach-found-in-kent-949717.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><u>“Roman Invasion Beach Found in Kent”</u></a>, The Independent (Friday October 3, 2008).</li></ol><br/><p>----------</p><p>00:11 - Introduction</p><p>01:58 - The Romans in Britain, from Caesar to Hadrian</p><ol><li>02:22 - Caesar’s campaigns in Gaul and Britain, and their aftermath</li><li>03:35 - Claudius “defeats” Caratacus and conquers southern England</li><li>13:37 - Boudicca’s Rebellion</li><li>18:54 - Vespasian and the governorship of Agricola</li><li>22:05 - Hadrian visits the frontier</li></ol><br/><p>23:31 - Building Hadrian’s Wall</p><ol><li>23:25 - The route: from Segedunum to Maia</li><li>25:41 - The wall and its features: stone, turf, milecastles, turrets, and outworks</li><li>28:57 - Why build part in stone and part in turf?</li><li>29:28 - The legions and the process of building the wall</li><li>32:25 - Changing plans: wall gauges, wall forts, and turf replaced by stone</li></ol><br/><p>37:56 - The Purpose of Hadrian’s Wall</p><ol><li>38:25 - Some puzzling features of Rome’s northern frontier</li><li>39:07 - A zone of transition: the Roman Empire and British social structures</li><li>44:22 - The Romans, the Wall, and the transformation of Britain</li></ol><br/><p>46:24 - The Wall after Hadrian</p><ol><li>46:42 - The Wall from Antoninus Pius to Septimius Severus</li><li>49:04 - The Wall in the time of Bede</li><li>51:17 - The 17th and 18th centuries: Hadrian’s Wall and the Military Road</li><li>53:19 - John Clayton</li><li>54:39 - The National Trust and UNESCO</li></ol><br/><p>55:20 - Wrap-up</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/hadrians-wall-part-i-the-romans-in-the-britain-and-the-imperial-frontier]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">a221bd89-3118-47e3-b160-f49b1282a0cf</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/32e88bb7-a035-4952-a252-f2590ea346e8/20cover.jpeg"/><pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2026 03:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/a221bd89-3118-47e3-b160-f49b1282a0cf.mp3" length="54083499" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>56:20</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>20</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>20</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/ba054c27-d988-47cf-b2fc-92e81527b4ea/index.html" type="text/html"/><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-e54d7931-f76c-429d-af5c-e6389c7c0c66.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>Monty Python’s Life of Brian: The Greatest Movie about Ancient Rome?</title><itunes:title>Monty Python’s Life of Brian: The Greatest Movie about Ancient Rome?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Emily and Cam chat about whether Monty Python's Life of Brian is truly the greatest movie about ancient Rome (as Cam claimed in the last episode). They also explore what "truths" the movie might expose about life under Roman occupation, and contemplate the Pythons’ love for Aristophanes.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ol><br/><p>Cover photo adapted from an <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Romanes_eunt_domus.svg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">image by Grufo (Wikimedia Commons)</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>----------</p><p>00:11 - Introduction</p><p>01:54 - Monty Python: A Primer</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>02:25 - Five Brits and an American: Monty Python comes together (probably at a bar)</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>04:00 - The Pythons venture into feature-length films</li></ol><br/><p>06:56 - Production, Release, Reception</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>06:58 - On location in Tunisia</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>08:00 - The man they call Brian: the basic plot of the movie</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>09:52 - George Harrison to the rescue!</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>11:13 - Brian banned!</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>12:08 - The peculiar case of Aberystwyth, Wales</li></ol><br/><p>13:38 - Some cringey bits: viewer beware!</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>13:53 - Blackface and ethnic slurs</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>15:20 - Stan / Loretta: mildly transphobic, or surprisingly progressive?</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>16:56 - Some ableist-seeming jokes</li></ol><br/><p>19:02 - The Pythons do history hilariously</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>20:45 - Women and agency</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>22:59 - Businesspeople and professional pride</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>24:36 - Gladiator games, Python-style</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>28:10 - British and Roman imperialism, or what have the Romans ever done for us?</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>32:54 - Ridiculous resistance groups (Splitters!)</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>37:33 - Everyday acts of genuine resistance</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>41:21 - Prophets, saviors, and messiahs—in Roman Judea and elsewhere</li></ol><br/><p>45:08 - The Pythons as PhDs of Comedy</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>45:42 - Learned spoofs of literature and film: The Iliad and Spartacus</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>48:15 - Silly costumes, silly names, silly plots: the Pythons pay homage to Plautus and Aristophanes</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>54:39 - Romanes eunt domus!</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>56:55 - The art of nudity: the Pythons spoof Zeffirelli</li></ol><br/><p>59:14 - Wrap-up</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emily and Cam chat about whether Monty Python's Life of Brian is truly the greatest movie about ancient Rome (as Cam claimed in the last episode). They also explore what "truths" the movie might expose about life under Roman occupation, and contemplate the Pythons’ love for Aristophanes.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ol><br/><p>Cover photo adapted from an <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Romanes_eunt_domus.svg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">image by Grufo (Wikimedia Commons)</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>----------</p><p>00:11 - Introduction</p><p>01:54 - Monty Python: A Primer</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>02:25 - Five Brits and an American: Monty Python comes together (probably at a bar)</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>04:00 - The Pythons venture into feature-length films</li></ol><br/><p>06:56 - Production, Release, Reception</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>06:58 - On location in Tunisia</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>08:00 - The man they call Brian: the basic plot of the movie</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>09:52 - George Harrison to the rescue!</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>11:13 - Brian banned!</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>12:08 - The peculiar case of Aberystwyth, Wales</li></ol><br/><p>13:38 - Some cringey bits: viewer beware!</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>13:53 - Blackface and ethnic slurs</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>15:20 - Stan / Loretta: mildly transphobic, or surprisingly progressive?</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>16:56 - Some ableist-seeming jokes</li></ol><br/><p>19:02 - The Pythons do history hilariously</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>20:45 - Women and agency</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>22:59 - Businesspeople and professional pride</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>24:36 - Gladiator games, Python-style</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>28:10 - British and Roman imperialism, or what have the Romans ever done for us?</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>32:54 - Ridiculous resistance groups (Splitters!)</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>37:33 - Everyday acts of genuine resistance</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>41:21 - Prophets, saviors, and messiahs—in Roman Judea and elsewhere</li></ol><br/><p>45:08 - The Pythons as PhDs of Comedy</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>45:42 - Learned spoofs of literature and film: The Iliad and Spartacus</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>48:15 - Silly costumes, silly names, silly plots: the Pythons pay homage to Plautus and Aristophanes</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>54:39 - Romanes eunt domus!</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>56:55 - The art of nudity: the Pythons spoof Zeffirelli</li></ol><br/><p>59:14 - Wrap-up</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://havetogawilltravel.com/episode/monty-pythons-life-of-brian-the-greatest-movie-about-ancient-rome]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">79c093d7-9461-4cdb-bad6-e17583a214b0</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/7f89bff0-f425-4a6a-8a0e-f9c38db3c39f/Ep19-cover.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2026 03:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/79c093d7-9461-4cdb-bad6-e17583a214b0.mp3" length="58122239" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:00:33</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>19</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>19</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/665c0bfd-9f9d-45cd-bcf6-3f81dbc495ff/index.html" type="text/html"/><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-7b2c814e-0439-438c-b365-814fb17ca5b6.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>The Persians and the Greeks, Part IV: Salamis, Plataea, and Everything After</title><itunes:title>The Persians and the Greeks, Part IV: Salamis, Plataea, and Everything After</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In the final installment of a four-part series on the Greeks and the Persians, Emily and Cam discuss both the Battle of Salamis and the Battle of Plataea, and finish off with some remarks about the Serpent Column—a living monument to the accomplishment of the Greeks. </p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ol><br/><p>Links</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/the-serpent-column-in-the-heart-of-the-city" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Blog Post on the Serpent Column</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/the-persians-and-the-greeks-part-i-the-rise-of-the-persian-empire" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The first episode in this series</a> (The Persians and the Greeks, Part I: The Rise of the Persian Empire).</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/the-persians-and-the-greeks-part-ii-darius-great-king-king-of-kings" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The second episode in this series</a> (The Persians and the Greeks, Part II: Darius, Great King, King of Kings).</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/the-persians-and-the-greeks-part-iii-xerxes-and-the-road-to-thermopylae" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The third episode in this series</a> (The Persians and the Greeks, Part III: Xerxes and the Road to Thermopylae).</li></ol><br/><p>----------</p><p>00:12 - Introduction</p><p>00:58 - Xerxes on the Acropolis</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>01:18 - The aftermath of Thermopylae and Artemision: Xerxes in Central Greece</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>04:22 - The Athenians face a dilemma</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>07:03 - The Pythia, the wall of wood, and the evacuation of Athens</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>12:46 - The Persians in Athens</li></ol><br/><p>14:52 - Blessed Salamis</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>15:26 - Dissension among the Greeks</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>19:21 - Xerxes, his commanders, and Artemisia the wise advisor</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>24:29 - Themistokles’ Gambit</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>32:21 - The Battle of Salamis</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>36:17 - Xerxes puts Mardonius in charge and heads for home</li></ol><br/><p>39:15 - The Campaign and Battle of Plataea</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>39:19 - Mardonius, Alexander, and an offer to the Athenians</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>41:11 - Spring 479: Mardonius’ capture of Athens, and its aftermath</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>43:23 - All roads lead to Plataea</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>48:21 - The Battle of Plataea</li></ol><br/><p>56:09 - Epilogue: the Serpent Column, from Delphi to Istanbul</p><p>61:07 - Wrap-up</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the final installment of a four-part series on the Greeks and the Persians, Emily and Cam discuss both the Battle of Salamis and the Battle of Plataea, and finish off with some remarks about the Serpent Column—a living monument to the accomplishment of the Greeks. </p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ol><br/><p>Links</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/the-serpent-column-in-the-heart-of-the-city" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Blog Post on the Serpent Column</a>.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/the-persians-and-the-greeks-part-i-the-rise-of-the-persian-empire" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The first episode in this series</a> (The Persians and the Greeks, Part I: The Rise of the Persian Empire).</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/the-persians-and-the-greeks-part-ii-darius-great-king-king-of-kings" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The second episode in this series</a> (The Persians and the Greeks, Part II: Darius, Great King, King of Kings).</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/the-persians-and-the-greeks-part-iii-xerxes-and-the-road-to-thermopylae" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The third episode in this series</a> (The Persians and the Greeks, Part III: Xerxes and the Road to Thermopylae).</li></ol><br/><p>----------</p><p>00:12 - Introduction</p><p>00:58 - Xerxes on the Acropolis</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>01:18 - The aftermath of Thermopylae and Artemision: Xerxes in Central Greece</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>04:22 - The Athenians face a dilemma</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>07:03 - The Pythia, the wall of wood, and the evacuation of Athens</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>12:46 - The Persians in Athens</li></ol><br/><p>14:52 - Blessed Salamis</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>15:26 - Dissension among the Greeks</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>19:21 - Xerxes, his commanders, and Artemisia the wise advisor</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>24:29 - Themistokles’ Gambit</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>32:21 - The Battle of Salamis</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>36:17 - Xerxes puts Mardonius in charge and heads for home</li></ol><br/><p>39:15 - The Campaign and Battle of Plataea</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>39:19 - Mardonius, Alexander, and an offer to the Athenians</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>41:11 - Spring 479: Mardonius’ capture of Athens, and its aftermath</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>43:23 - All roads lead to Plataea</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>48:21 - The Battle of Plataea</li></ol><br/><p>56:09 - Epilogue: the Serpent Column, from Delphi to Istanbul</p><p>61:07 - Wrap-up</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/the-persians-and-the-greeks-part-iv-salamis-plataea-and-everything-after]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">0f4e1208-b699-446f-b61e-ae89aac544ff</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/5a8e816e-b29f-48d0-818b-420150831366/IMG-0199.jpeg"/><pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2026 03:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/0f4e1208-b699-446f-b61e-ae89aac544ff.mp3" length="59104861" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:01:34</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>18</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>18</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/13716121-1d1d-478c-ac38-63d5fecdfc3f/index.html" type="text/html"/><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-29b24033-d0a8-4c91-ad85-9e49c23535c3.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>The Persians and the Greeks, Part III: Xerxes and the Road to Thermopylae</title><itunes:title>The Persians and the Greeks, Part III: Xerxes and the Road to Thermopylae</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Emily and Cam dive into Xerxes’ decision to invade Greece, and tell the story of his expedition as far as the Battle of Thermopylae. (Featuring a very brief digression on "300".)</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ol><br/><p>Links</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/the-persians-and-the-greeks-part-i-the-rise-of-the-persian-empire" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The first episode in this series</a> (The Persians and the Greeks, Part I: The Rise of the Persian Empire).</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/the-persians-and-the-greeks-part-ii-darius-great-king-king-of-kings" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The second episode in this series</a> (The Persians and the Greeks, Part II: Darius, Great King, King of Kings).</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/aeschylus-persians-the-og-greek-tragedy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our episode on Aeschylus’ Persians</a> (Aeschylus’ “Persians”: The OG Greek Tragedy).</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/holding-out-for-a-hero-in-ancient-greece" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our episode on heroes in the ancient Greek world</a> (Holding Out for a Hero—in Ancient Greece).</li></ol><br/><p>----------</p><p>00:12 - Introduction</p><p>01:18 - The Last Years of Darius</p><p>02:38 - Xerxes, King</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>02:59 - Xerxes and the Many Sons of Darius</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>04:57 - Xerxes Quells Rebellions in Egypt and Babylon</li></ol><br/><p>05:39 - Xerxes’ Project: The Invasion of Greece</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>06:08 - Herodotus’ Understanding of Xerxes’ Motivations</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>08:47 - A Persian Perspective?</li></ol><br/><p>10:31 - Planning Xerxes’ Campaign</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>11:00 - The Mt Athos Canal and Supply Depots in the Northern Aegean</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>12:39 - Ships and Cables</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>14:07 - Mustering the Army</li></ol><br/><p>14:28 - Xerxes Travels from Susa to Sardis</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>16:59 - Early Greek Responses to Xerxes’ Plans</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>17:15 - Initial Rumors</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>18:02 - Xerxes Demands Earth and Water</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>20:00 - The Range of Greek Responses: Submission, Accommodation, Resistance</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>25:35 - Greek Spies in Sardis</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>26:04 - Strategy and the Problems of Interstate Rivalries</li></ol><br/><p>27:28 - The Coming Storm</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>27:54 - Xerxes Crosses the Hellespont: the Pontoon Bridges</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>29:51 - Xerxes Counts his Forces (and why we should doubt Herodotus’ numbers)</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>34:27 - The March to Therma and the Kingdom of Macedonia</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>37:14 - The Greeks at Tempe and the Submission of the North</li></ol><br/><p>39:46 - Thermopylae and Artemision: Greek Plans and Preparations</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>40:10 - The Geography of Thermopylae and Artemision (with a digression on “300”)</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>43:04 - The Greek Forces</li></ol><br/><p>48:33 - Thermopylae and Artemision: The Battles</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>48:58 - Spartan Hairstyles and Xerxes’ Frustrations</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>51:56 - The First Day of Fighting: Stalemate</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>43:30 - The Second Day of Fighting: Xerxes, Ephialtes, and the March of the Immortals</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>57:23 - The Third Day of Fighting: The Last Stand</li></ol><br/><p>65:12 - Wrap-up</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emily and Cam dive into Xerxes’ decision to invade Greece, and tell the story of his expedition as far as the Battle of Thermopylae. (Featuring a very brief digression on "300".)</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ol><br/><p>Links</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/the-persians-and-the-greeks-part-i-the-rise-of-the-persian-empire" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The first episode in this series</a> (The Persians and the Greeks, Part I: The Rise of the Persian Empire).</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/the-persians-and-the-greeks-part-ii-darius-great-king-king-of-kings" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The second episode in this series</a> (The Persians and the Greeks, Part II: Darius, Great King, King of Kings).</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/aeschylus-persians-the-og-greek-tragedy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our episode on Aeschylus’ Persians</a> (Aeschylus’ “Persians”: The OG Greek Tragedy).</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/holding-out-for-a-hero-in-ancient-greece" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our episode on heroes in the ancient Greek world</a> (Holding Out for a Hero—in Ancient Greece).</li></ol><br/><p>----------</p><p>00:12 - Introduction</p><p>01:18 - The Last Years of Darius</p><p>02:38 - Xerxes, King</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>02:59 - Xerxes and the Many Sons of Darius</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>04:57 - Xerxes Quells Rebellions in Egypt and Babylon</li></ol><br/><p>05:39 - Xerxes’ Project: The Invasion of Greece</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>06:08 - Herodotus’ Understanding of Xerxes’ Motivations</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>08:47 - A Persian Perspective?</li></ol><br/><p>10:31 - Planning Xerxes’ Campaign</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>11:00 - The Mt Athos Canal and Supply Depots in the Northern Aegean</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>12:39 - Ships and Cables</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>14:07 - Mustering the Army</li></ol><br/><p>14:28 - Xerxes Travels from Susa to Sardis</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>16:59 - Early Greek Responses to Xerxes’ Plans</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>17:15 - Initial Rumors</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>18:02 - Xerxes Demands Earth and Water</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>20:00 - The Range of Greek Responses: Submission, Accommodation, Resistance</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>25:35 - Greek Spies in Sardis</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>26:04 - Strategy and the Problems of Interstate Rivalries</li></ol><br/><p>27:28 - The Coming Storm</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>27:54 - Xerxes Crosses the Hellespont: the Pontoon Bridges</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>29:51 - Xerxes Counts his Forces (and why we should doubt Herodotus’ numbers)</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>34:27 - The March to Therma and the Kingdom of Macedonia</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>37:14 - The Greeks at Tempe and the Submission of the North</li></ol><br/><p>39:46 - Thermopylae and Artemision: Greek Plans and Preparations</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>40:10 - The Geography of Thermopylae and Artemision (with a digression on “300”)</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>43:04 - The Greek Forces</li></ol><br/><p>48:33 - Thermopylae and Artemision: The Battles</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>48:58 - Spartan Hairstyles and Xerxes’ Frustrations</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>51:56 - The First Day of Fighting: Stalemate</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>43:30 - The Second Day of Fighting: Xerxes, Ephialtes, and the March of the Immortals</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>57:23 - The Third Day of Fighting: The Last Stand</li></ol><br/><p>65:12 - Wrap-up</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/the-persians-and-the-greeks-part-iii-xerxes-and-the-road-to-thermopylae]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">3ce37609-1014-445c-9da8-1828469ab53d</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/605c1008-a3c2-4ea5-81bb-f2fdc20b4696/Square-Raw-adjusted.jpeg"/><pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2026 03:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/3ce37609-1014-445c-9da8-1828469ab53d.mp3" length="64300929" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:06:59</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>17</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>17</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/a8c60de2-4917-4973-b139-27e209975f80/index.html" type="text/html"/><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-be7bd932-cffe-4edc-a4ba-2a1f43428918.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>The Persians and the Greeks, Part II: Darius, Great King, King of Kings</title><itunes:title>The Persians and the Greeks, Part II: Darius, Great King, King of Kings</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Emily and Cam continue their discussion of the conflict between the Persians and the ancient Greek world. In this episode, they chat about Cyrus’ son Cambyses, about the rise to power of Darius, and about Darius’ relationships with Greeks on the western frontier of his empire.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></u></li></ol><br/><p>Episode Links</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/the-persians-and-the-greeks-part-i-the-rise-of-the-persian-empire" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The first episode in this series</a></u> (The Persians and the Greeks, Part I: The Rise of the Persian Empire).</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/the-athens-marathon-part-i" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Part I of our series on the Athens Marathon</a></u>, which includes a discussion of the Battle of Marathon and the legend of Pheidippides.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behistun_Inscription" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wikipedia’s article on Darius’ Bisitun Inscription</a></u>, which includes photos.</li></ol><br/><p>Image credits:</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Cover / instagram image adapted from <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Behistun_Darius_the_Great.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a photo by Lee van Dorp</a> (Wikimedia Commons), which shows a closeup of Darius as he is depicted on the Bisitun Inscription.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Social sharing image adapted from <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:کتیبه_داریوش_(_بیستون(.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a photo by Korosh091</a> (Wikimedia Commons), which shows the Bisitun Inscription's main relief.</li></ol><br/><p>----------</p><p>00:13 - Introduction</p><p>01:31 - Sources for the reigns of Cambyses and Darius</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>01:49 - Herodotus’ Persian stories</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>02:41 - Inscriptions and papyri documenting Persian kings</li></ol><br/><p>03:01 - Cambyses, son of Cyrus: portraits of his Reign</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>03:27 - Herodotus’ take on Cambyses: a mad and murderous king</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>11:59 - A more sympathetic take: the Apis inscriptions, the Udjahorresnet inscription, and what they tell us about Cambyses</li></ol><br/><p>16:35 - The Death of Cambyses and the rise of Darius</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>17:01 - Herodotus’ tale of the usurper Smerdis and the (Persian) Magnificent Seven</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>21:06 - Darius’ Bisitun Inscription and the “Official” story of his rise to power</li></ol><br/><p>28:02 - Darius and the Greeks</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>28:41 - Darius’ Scythian Expedition and the Greeks of Ionia and Aeolia</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>32:01 - The Ionian Revolt and its causes: Aristagoras and Naxos, plus the problem of tyranny, tribute, and triremes</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>39:39 - The Athenians and the sack of Sardis</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>43:00 - The Marathon Campaign: Darius seeks revenge</li></ol><br/><p>44:58 - Wrap-up</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emily and Cam continue their discussion of the conflict between the Persians and the ancient Greek world. In this episode, they chat about Cyrus’ son Cambyses, about the rise to power of Darius, and about Darius’ relationships with Greeks on the western frontier of his empire.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></u></li></ol><br/><p>Episode Links</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/the-persians-and-the-greeks-part-i-the-rise-of-the-persian-empire" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The first episode in this series</a></u> (The Persians and the Greeks, Part I: The Rise of the Persian Empire).</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/the-athens-marathon-part-i" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Part I of our series on the Athens Marathon</a></u>, which includes a discussion of the Battle of Marathon and the legend of Pheidippides.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behistun_Inscription" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wikipedia’s article on Darius’ Bisitun Inscription</a></u>, which includes photos.</li></ol><br/><p>Image credits:</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Cover / instagram image adapted from <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Behistun_Darius_the_Great.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a photo by Lee van Dorp</a> (Wikimedia Commons), which shows a closeup of Darius as he is depicted on the Bisitun Inscription.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Social sharing image adapted from <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:کتیبه_داریوش_(_بیستون(.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a photo by Korosh091</a> (Wikimedia Commons), which shows the Bisitun Inscription's main relief.</li></ol><br/><p>----------</p><p>00:13 - Introduction</p><p>01:31 - Sources for the reigns of Cambyses and Darius</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>01:49 - Herodotus’ Persian stories</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>02:41 - Inscriptions and papyri documenting Persian kings</li></ol><br/><p>03:01 - Cambyses, son of Cyrus: portraits of his Reign</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>03:27 - Herodotus’ take on Cambyses: a mad and murderous king</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>11:59 - A more sympathetic take: the Apis inscriptions, the Udjahorresnet inscription, and what they tell us about Cambyses</li></ol><br/><p>16:35 - The Death of Cambyses and the rise of Darius</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>17:01 - Herodotus’ tale of the usurper Smerdis and the (Persian) Magnificent Seven</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>21:06 - Darius’ Bisitun Inscription and the “Official” story of his rise to power</li></ol><br/><p>28:02 - Darius and the Greeks</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>28:41 - Darius’ Scythian Expedition and the Greeks of Ionia and Aeolia</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>32:01 - The Ionian Revolt and its causes: Aristagoras and Naxos, plus the problem of tyranny, tribute, and triremes</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>39:39 - The Athenians and the sack of Sardis</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>43:00 - The Marathon Campaign: Darius seeks revenge</li></ol><br/><p>44:58 - Wrap-up</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/the-persians-and-the-greeks-part-ii-darius-great-king-king-of-kings]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">40af33d8-bdac-49bb-9e55-dc2e8eb459ff</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/4c031bcf-36ce-4bd3-9492-16cf91501cb4/Episode-Cover.jpeg"/><pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2026 03:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/40af33d8-bdac-49bb-9e55-dc2e8eb459ff.mp3" length="44210467" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>46:03</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>16</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>16</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/aa46abb4-6f02-4b13-9f91-021b2fab6e6f/index.html" type="text/html"/><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-f3f60aea-3bde-473d-8b78-1733ebf0c50e.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>The Persians and the Greeks, Part I: The Rise of the Persian Empire</title><itunes:title>The Persians and the Greeks, Part I: The Rise of the Persian Empire</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Emily and Cam talk about the ancient Persians and the growth of their empire in the first episode of a series on the conflict between the Persians and the ancient Greek world.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></u></li></ol><br/><p>Cover photo adapted from an image by <u><a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Berlin_-_Pergamon_Museum_-_Persian_warriors_-_20150523_6849.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jakub Hałun</a></u> (Persian Warriors, Pergamon University, Berlin)</p><p><br></p><p>----------</p><p>00:12 - Introduction</p><p>01:07 - Who were the Persians?</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>01:11 - The ancient Persians, the ancient Iranians, and the Indo-European dispersion</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>02:52 - The Old Persian language (and a digression on Persian names)</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>08:35 - Zoroastrianism and the religion of the ancient Persians</li></ol><br/><p>13:59 - The Rise of the Persian Empire</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>14:23 - The Middle East in the 6th Century BCE: Persia and its neighbors</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>16:29 - Herodotus and the legend of Cyrus the Great</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>20:06 - Cyrus the Great and his conquests</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>24:04 - Cyrus’ successors: Cambyses and Darius</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>24:48 - The Persian Empire in 500 BCE</li></ol><br/><p>25:12 - The Structure of the Persian Empire</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>25:25 - Cooperative local elites and the obligations of empire</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>26:35 - Satraps, provinces, and the Iranian diaspora</li></ol><br/><p>28:45 - The Ideology of the Persian Empire</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>29:04 - Cyrus as champion of local gods in Babylon and Judah</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>30:49 - Darius as champion of Ahura Mazda</li></ol><br/><p>32:47 - The Mechanics of Empire in the Age of Darius</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>32:52 - Imperial ideology and imperial violence</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>34:00 - Local elites and imperial entanglements: the story of Syloson of Samos</li></ol><br/><p>38:04 - Wrap-up</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emily and Cam talk about the ancient Persians and the growth of their empire in the first episode of a series on the conflict between the Persians and the ancient Greek world.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></u></li></ol><br/><p>Cover photo adapted from an image by <u><a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Berlin_-_Pergamon_Museum_-_Persian_warriors_-_20150523_6849.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jakub Hałun</a></u> (Persian Warriors, Pergamon University, Berlin)</p><p><br></p><p>----------</p><p>00:12 - Introduction</p><p>01:07 - Who were the Persians?</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>01:11 - The ancient Persians, the ancient Iranians, and the Indo-European dispersion</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>02:52 - The Old Persian language (and a digression on Persian names)</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>08:35 - Zoroastrianism and the religion of the ancient Persians</li></ol><br/><p>13:59 - The Rise of the Persian Empire</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>14:23 - The Middle East in the 6th Century BCE: Persia and its neighbors</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>16:29 - Herodotus and the legend of Cyrus the Great</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>20:06 - Cyrus the Great and his conquests</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>24:04 - Cyrus’ successors: Cambyses and Darius</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>24:48 - The Persian Empire in 500 BCE</li></ol><br/><p>25:12 - The Structure of the Persian Empire</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>25:25 - Cooperative local elites and the obligations of empire</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>26:35 - Satraps, provinces, and the Iranian diaspora</li></ol><br/><p>28:45 - The Ideology of the Persian Empire</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>29:04 - Cyrus as champion of local gods in Babylon and Judah</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>30:49 - Darius as champion of Ahura Mazda</li></ol><br/><p>32:47 - The Mechanics of Empire in the Age of Darius</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>32:52 - Imperial ideology and imperial violence</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>34:00 - Local elites and imperial entanglements: the story of Syloson of Samos</li></ol><br/><p>38:04 - Wrap-up</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://havetogawilltravel.com/episode/the-persians-and-the-greeks-part-i-the-rise-of-the-persian-empire]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">3527af20-3538-4a5b-a89f-4d21d6fa2226</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/62d3c90e-94c1-4465-a52f-40dd3efb7055/Ep15-cover-small.jpeg"/><pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2026 03:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/3527af20-3538-4a5b-a89f-4d21d6fa2226.mp3" length="37976188" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>39:33</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>15</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>15</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/6cc04f9d-c68f-42b3-9538-ab53b9ed50ce/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>Aeschylus&apos; &quot;Persians&quot;: The OG Greek Tragedy</title><itunes:title>Aeschylus&apos; &quot;Persians&quot;: The OG Greek Tragedy</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Emily and Cam break down “The Persians”—the oldest surviving Greek tragedy, which offers a surprisingly sympathetic take on the enemies of Athens.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></u></li></ol><br/><p>Cover photo adapted from an image of the Salamis Soldiers' monument, by Ziegler175:</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:SalamisPaloukiaSchlacht2.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:SalamisPaloukiaSchlacht2.jpg</a></u></li></ol><br/><p><br></p><p>----------</p><p>00:10 - Introduction</p><p>01:43 - Aeschylus and his historical context</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>01:56 - The subject of the play (and its peculiarity)</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>03:06 - The Battle of Salamis and the Persian Wars</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>05:10 - Aeschylus’ Career</li></ol><br/><p>06:22 - The Persians in performance</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>06:30 - The Dionysia of 472 BCE and Aeschylus’ tetralogy</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>08:35 - Pericles as producer (choregos)</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>09:09 - A synopsis of the play</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>11:12 - The structure of Greek Tragedies (or, how do we know that the Persians only needs two actors apart from the chorus?)</li></ol><br/><p>14:03 - Interpreting the play: sympathy for the Persians?</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>15:06 - The survival of the play: evidence of its popularity?</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>16:04 - Triumphalism vs. a recognition of common experience</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>17:06 - Differences between Greek and Persians in the play: archers vs. spearmen, autocracy vs. autonomy, proskynesis and lamentation</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>20:36 - Aeschylus argues for common experiences: the Persians as Homeric heroes, the horrors and the costs of battle, and Aeschylus’ rejection of the “effeminate Persians” trope</li></ol><br/><p>26:37 - The play’s main theme: empire and hubris</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>27:00 - Xerxes and his bad decisions</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>27:56 - The gods’ desire to punish Xerxes</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>28:53 - The hubris of Xerxes, or the hubris of the Empire? (Featuring Emily’s rant about hubris in ancient and modern thought)</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>34:27 - Aeschylus, the gods, and Athenian imperialism</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>36:55 - The social function of tragedy: thinking through big problems</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>37:28 - What staging the Persians can tell us about the play</li></ol><br/><p>39:12 - Wrap-up</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emily and Cam break down “The Persians”—the oldest surviving Greek tragedy, which offers a surprisingly sympathetic take on the enemies of Athens.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></u></li></ol><br/><p>Cover photo adapted from an image of the Salamis Soldiers' monument, by Ziegler175:</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:SalamisPaloukiaSchlacht2.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:SalamisPaloukiaSchlacht2.jpg</a></u></li></ol><br/><p><br></p><p>----------</p><p>00:10 - Introduction</p><p>01:43 - Aeschylus and his historical context</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>01:56 - The subject of the play (and its peculiarity)</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>03:06 - The Battle of Salamis and the Persian Wars</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>05:10 - Aeschylus’ Career</li></ol><br/><p>06:22 - The Persians in performance</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>06:30 - The Dionysia of 472 BCE and Aeschylus’ tetralogy</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>08:35 - Pericles as producer (choregos)</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>09:09 - A synopsis of the play</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>11:12 - The structure of Greek Tragedies (or, how do we know that the Persians only needs two actors apart from the chorus?)</li></ol><br/><p>14:03 - Interpreting the play: sympathy for the Persians?</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>15:06 - The survival of the play: evidence of its popularity?</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>16:04 - Triumphalism vs. a recognition of common experience</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>17:06 - Differences between Greek and Persians in the play: archers vs. spearmen, autocracy vs. autonomy, proskynesis and lamentation</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>20:36 - Aeschylus argues for common experiences: the Persians as Homeric heroes, the horrors and the costs of battle, and Aeschylus’ rejection of the “effeminate Persians” trope</li></ol><br/><p>26:37 - The play’s main theme: empire and hubris</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>27:00 - Xerxes and his bad decisions</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>27:56 - The gods’ desire to punish Xerxes</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>28:53 - The hubris of Xerxes, or the hubris of the Empire? (Featuring Emily’s rant about hubris in ancient and modern thought)</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>34:27 - Aeschylus, the gods, and Athenian imperialism</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>36:55 - The social function of tragedy: thinking through big problems</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>37:28 - What staging the Persians can tell us about the play</li></ol><br/><p>39:12 - Wrap-up</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://havetogawilltravel.com/episode/aeschylus-persians-the-og-greek-tragedy]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">8d3f6b27-7be9-4552-a009-c1eeae4c5d4d</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/dd5155d2-f49c-453b-a18e-85b56985355d/SalamisPaloukiaSchlacht2.jpeg"/><pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2026 03:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/8d3f6b27-7be9-4552-a009-c1eeae4c5d4d.mp3" length="38379101" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>39:59</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>14</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/0f158588-1d3b-42c7-9c44-ea63efe07548/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>At Play in the Theater of Dionysus</title><itunes:title>At Play in the Theater of Dionysus</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>At Play in the Theater of Dionysus</p><p>The Theater of Dionysus as Aeschylus, Sophocles, and Euripides knew it was very different than the theater whose remains you see today in Athens. Listen to Emily and Cam walk you through the development of the space, and through the creation of the genre associated most strongly with it: Greek tragedy.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></u></li></ol><br/><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>For images of the Theater and Sanctuary of Dionysus, visit our blog:</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/the-sanctuary-and-theater-of-dionysus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/the-sanctuary-and-theater-of-dionysus</a></u></li></ol><br/><p><br></p><p>----------</p><p><br></p><p>00:10 - Introduction</p><p>01:37 - Visiting the Theater and Sanctuary</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>01:42 - Where to find the Theater and Sanctuary</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>02:16 - Don’t confuse it with the Odeion of Herodes Atticus!</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>03:26 - An overview of the physical remains</li></ol><br/><p>04:01 - The Origins of the Sanctuary, the Theater, and the Festival</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>04:02 - The Sanctuary, the Festival, and the Temples of Dionysus</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>04:58 - The Theater through Time: The Fifth Century, the Lycurgan Theater, the Hellenistic Theater, and the Roman Theater</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>07:59 - The Festivals of Dionysus: The Origins of the City Dionysia and celebrations for Dionysus in Ikaria and other demes</li></ol><br/><p>11:44 - The Origins of Scripted Drama in Athens</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>11:50 - The Dithyramb</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>12:41 - The legend of Thespis, the first actor</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>13:15 - The importance of the chorus in Greek drama</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>14:10 - Masking and actors playing multiple characters</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>14:30 - The Development of the Three-Actor Model in the Age of Aeschylus, Sophocles, and Euripides</li></ol><br/><p>19:09 - The City Dionysia</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>19:42 - The Schedule: The Procession and its Ithyphallic Floats; the Dithyrambic Competitions; the Dramatic Competitions</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>22:50 - Dionysus, the most important spectator</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>23:48 - The Organization of the Dramatic Competitions: Tragedies, Satyr Plays, Choruses, and Choregoi!</li></ol><br/><p>30:09 - The Performance Space and its Evolution</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>30:20 - The Fifth-Century Theater: the Orchestra, the Skēnē, and the Paradoi</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>33:30 - Technical Innovations: the ekkyklēma and the mechanē</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>36:36 - The Deus Ex Machina in ancient Drama</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>37:34 - Changes over time in the layout of the theater and in the role of the Chorus</li></ol><br/><p>41:01 - Final Thoughts on the Importance of Tragedy</p><p>44:15 - Wrap-up</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At Play in the Theater of Dionysus</p><p>The Theater of Dionysus as Aeschylus, Sophocles, and Euripides knew it was very different than the theater whose remains you see today in Athens. Listen to Emily and Cam walk you through the development of the space, and through the creation of the genre associated most strongly with it: Greek tragedy.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></u></li></ol><br/><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>For images of the Theater and Sanctuary of Dionysus, visit our blog:</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/the-sanctuary-and-theater-of-dionysus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/the-sanctuary-and-theater-of-dionysus</a></u></li></ol><br/><p><br></p><p>----------</p><p><br></p><p>00:10 - Introduction</p><p>01:37 - Visiting the Theater and Sanctuary</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>01:42 - Where to find the Theater and Sanctuary</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>02:16 - Don’t confuse it with the Odeion of Herodes Atticus!</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>03:26 - An overview of the physical remains</li></ol><br/><p>04:01 - The Origins of the Sanctuary, the Theater, and the Festival</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>04:02 - The Sanctuary, the Festival, and the Temples of Dionysus</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>04:58 - The Theater through Time: The Fifth Century, the Lycurgan Theater, the Hellenistic Theater, and the Roman Theater</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>07:59 - The Festivals of Dionysus: The Origins of the City Dionysia and celebrations for Dionysus in Ikaria and other demes</li></ol><br/><p>11:44 - The Origins of Scripted Drama in Athens</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>11:50 - The Dithyramb</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>12:41 - The legend of Thespis, the first actor</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>13:15 - The importance of the chorus in Greek drama</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>14:10 - Masking and actors playing multiple characters</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>14:30 - The Development of the Three-Actor Model in the Age of Aeschylus, Sophocles, and Euripides</li></ol><br/><p>19:09 - The City Dionysia</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>19:42 - The Schedule: The Procession and its Ithyphallic Floats; the Dithyrambic Competitions; the Dramatic Competitions</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>22:50 - Dionysus, the most important spectator</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>23:48 - The Organization of the Dramatic Competitions: Tragedies, Satyr Plays, Choruses, and Choregoi!</li></ol><br/><p>30:09 - The Performance Space and its Evolution</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>30:20 - The Fifth-Century Theater: the Orchestra, the Skēnē, and the Paradoi</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>33:30 - Technical Innovations: the ekkyklēma and the mechanē</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>36:36 - The Deus Ex Machina in ancient Drama</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>37:34 - Changes over time in the layout of the theater and in the role of the Chorus</li></ol><br/><p>41:01 - Final Thoughts on the Importance of Tragedy</p><p>44:15 - Wrap-up</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://havetogawilltravel.com/episode/at-play-in-the-theater-of-dionysus]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">32665bcc-f73e-4a21-9903-03b5ce88e6bb</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/dd98c08d-8ae6-4003-8994-2ef5895ae023/Episode-13-cover-compressed.jpeg"/><pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2026 03:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/32665bcc-f73e-4a21-9903-03b5ce88e6bb.mp3" length="43342366" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>45:09</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>13</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/ce5feda5-c30c-4c2a-938d-35e1133d6b76/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>Emily and Cam’s Excellent Adventure (in Athens and Rome, of course!)</title><itunes:title>Emily and Cam’s Excellent Adventure (in Athens and Rome, of course!)</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Emily and Cam talk about their recent trip to Athens and Rome in an episode that features some talk about marathons, tsipouro, and cats.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p>For images of the Museum of the Forma Urbis, visit our blog post:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/the-museum-of-the-forma-urbis" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/the-museum-of-the-forma-urbis</a></li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Links to some of the places we mention in this episode:</p><ul><li><a href="https://athenascook.gr/en/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Athena’s Cook</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/paradosiako_serrwn/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Paradosiako Serron</a></li><li><a href="https://www.noctua.gr/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Noctua Brewing</a></li><li><a href="https://esthio.restaurant/el/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Esthio</a></li><li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/p/Baubo-100063581560091/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Βαυβώ&nbsp;(Vafvo)</a></li><li><a href="https://www.hotelsantamariatrastevere.it/en/gallery.php" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hotel Santa Maria</a></li><li><a href="https://www.basilicasanclemente.com/eng/the-basilica-and-the-excavations/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">San Clemente Archaeological Zone</a></li><li><a href="https://www.turismoroma.it/en/places/museo-della-forma-urbis" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Museum of the Forma Urbis</a></li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p>----------</p><p><br></p><p>00:10 - Introduction</p><p>01:25 - Our second walk through the Athens Marathon</p><ul><li>01:38 - Faliro: tourist sites, getting there, and the Marathon Expo</li><li>05:06 - Carb loading before the Marathon</li><li>06:32 - The trip to Marathon and the wait in the Stadium</li><li>09:27 - The race itself (drinking tsipouro in the footsteps of Spiridon Louis!)</li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p>15:19 - Our stay in Athens</p><ul><li>15:41 - How we travel</li><li>17:11 - Old neighborhoods (Plaka and Monastiraki) and ancient sites (the Acropolis and the Theatre of Dionysus)</li><li>19:01 - A field trip to Ilion (the Athens suburb, not Troy!) to eat at Paradosiako Serron</li><li>21:06 - Modern Athens: Pangrati</li><li>23:23 - Modern Athens: Koukaki and its restaurants (including Esthio) and our view of the Acropolis</li><li>29:36 - Modern Athens: Neos Kosmos and&nbsp;Βαυβώ</li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p>33:41 - Our Stay in Rome</p><ul><li>33:53 - Rome’s “feel” compared to Athens: geography and tourism</li><li>35:39 - Trastevere and the Hotel Santa Maria</li><li>37:12 - Culture shock: coffee and language issues</li><li>40:01 - The Archaeological Zone at San Clemente</li><li>43:45 - Castel Sant’Angelo</li><li>44:42 - The Museum of the Forma Urbis</li><li>46:34 - Wandering the city (and the Temple of Vibia Sabina and Hadrian)</li><li>49:30 - Hangin’ on the Janiculum</li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p>50:26 - Wrap-up</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emily and Cam talk about their recent trip to Athens and Rome in an episode that features some talk about marathons, tsipouro, and cats.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p>For images of the Museum of the Forma Urbis, visit our blog post:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/the-museum-of-the-forma-urbis" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/the-museum-of-the-forma-urbis</a></li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Links to some of the places we mention in this episode:</p><ul><li><a href="https://athenascook.gr/en/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Athena’s Cook</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/paradosiako_serrwn/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Paradosiako Serron</a></li><li><a href="https://www.noctua.gr/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Noctua Brewing</a></li><li><a href="https://esthio.restaurant/el/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Esthio</a></li><li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/p/Baubo-100063581560091/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Βαυβώ&nbsp;(Vafvo)</a></li><li><a href="https://www.hotelsantamariatrastevere.it/en/gallery.php" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hotel Santa Maria</a></li><li><a href="https://www.basilicasanclemente.com/eng/the-basilica-and-the-excavations/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">San Clemente Archaeological Zone</a></li><li><a href="https://www.turismoroma.it/en/places/museo-della-forma-urbis" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Museum of the Forma Urbis</a></li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p>----------</p><p><br></p><p>00:10 - Introduction</p><p>01:25 - Our second walk through the Athens Marathon</p><ul><li>01:38 - Faliro: tourist sites, getting there, and the Marathon Expo</li><li>05:06 - Carb loading before the Marathon</li><li>06:32 - The trip to Marathon and the wait in the Stadium</li><li>09:27 - The race itself (drinking tsipouro in the footsteps of Spiridon Louis!)</li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p>15:19 - Our stay in Athens</p><ul><li>15:41 - How we travel</li><li>17:11 - Old neighborhoods (Plaka and Monastiraki) and ancient sites (the Acropolis and the Theatre of Dionysus)</li><li>19:01 - A field trip to Ilion (the Athens suburb, not Troy!) to eat at Paradosiako Serron</li><li>21:06 - Modern Athens: Pangrati</li><li>23:23 - Modern Athens: Koukaki and its restaurants (including Esthio) and our view of the Acropolis</li><li>29:36 - Modern Athens: Neos Kosmos and&nbsp;Βαυβώ</li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p>33:41 - Our Stay in Rome</p><ul><li>33:53 - Rome’s “feel” compared to Athens: geography and tourism</li><li>35:39 - Trastevere and the Hotel Santa Maria</li><li>37:12 - Culture shock: coffee and language issues</li><li>40:01 - The Archaeological Zone at San Clemente</li><li>43:45 - Castel Sant’Angelo</li><li>44:42 - The Museum of the Forma Urbis</li><li>46:34 - Wandering the city (and the Temple of Vibia Sabina and Hadrian)</li><li>49:30 - Hangin’ on the Janiculum</li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p>50:26 - Wrap-up</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://havetogawilltravel.com/episode/emily-and-cams-excellent-adventure-in-athens-and-rome-of-course]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">6b3e47d7-fe0c-4ba9-b611-28f6d24da180</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/756ea30b-e5b3-4706-8a85-8a53a83917c7/cover12.jpeg"/><pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2025 03:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/6b3e47d7-fe0c-4ba9-b611-28f6d24da180.mp3" length="49790222" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>51:52</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>12</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/3b278b59-0149-42a0-9fd7-5d35400a766c/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>Something for everyone! Plautus and “A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum”</title><itunes:title>Something for everyone! Plautus and “A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum”</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Emily and Cam tackle “A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum”—an uproarious adaptation of Plautus’ Roman comedy.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p>Some plays of Plautus referenced in this episode:</p><ul><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudolus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pseudolus</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mostellaria" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mostellaria</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Gloriosus_(play)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Miles Gloriosus</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menaechmi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Menaechmi</a></li></ul><br/><p>Cover Image:</p><ul><li>Mosaic of Masks. Second or third century CE. Found on the Aventine, possibly on the site of the ancient Thermae Decianae; now held in the Capitoline Museums. <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mosaic_depicting_theatrical_masks_of_Tragedy_and_Comedy_(Thermae_Decianae).jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Photo by Carole Raddato, Wikimedia Commons.</a></li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p>----------</p><p><br></p><p>00:11 - Introduction</p><ul><li>00:38 - A Funny thing Happened on the Way to the Forum: Sonheim’s Musical and the 1966 film</li></ul><br/><p>03:19 - Our approach to reviewing adaptations of ancient literature</p><p>05:20 - Plautus and Roman Comedy</p><ul><li>05:29 - What we know about Plautus himself (his dates, his name, his background)</li><li>09:41 - Plautus' style: Roman comedy, exotic settings, stock plots, and stock characters</li></ul><br/><p>17:56 - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum: Plautus on Screen</p><ul><li>18:51 - The setting: “A less fashionable suburb of Rome”</li><li>19:44 - The characters (Pseudolus, Hysterium, Marcus Lycus, Hero, Philia, Miles Gloriosus, and others)</li><li>23:33 - The plot, in all of its messiness</li><li>27:15 - The movie’s sources: Plautus’ Pseudolus, Mostellaria, Miles Gloriosus, and other plays</li><li>33:01 - Metatheatre in Plautus and in A Funny Thing</li><li>36:25 - The movie’s departures from Plautus: More is more! (Expansive sets, elaborate scenes, and exaggerated physical comedy)</li></ul><br/><p>43:36 - Cam and Emily discuss their reactions (and we learn the dirty secrets of Emily’s history with this film!</p><p>49:01 – Wrap-up</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emily and Cam tackle “A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum”—an uproarious adaptation of Plautus’ Roman comedy.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p>Some plays of Plautus referenced in this episode:</p><ul><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudolus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pseudolus</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mostellaria" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mostellaria</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Gloriosus_(play)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Miles Gloriosus</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menaechmi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Menaechmi</a></li></ul><br/><p>Cover Image:</p><ul><li>Mosaic of Masks. Second or third century CE. Found on the Aventine, possibly on the site of the ancient Thermae Decianae; now held in the Capitoline Museums. <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mosaic_depicting_theatrical_masks_of_Tragedy_and_Comedy_(Thermae_Decianae).jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Photo by Carole Raddato, Wikimedia Commons.</a></li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p>----------</p><p><br></p><p>00:11 - Introduction</p><ul><li>00:38 - A Funny thing Happened on the Way to the Forum: Sonheim’s Musical and the 1966 film</li></ul><br/><p>03:19 - Our approach to reviewing adaptations of ancient literature</p><p>05:20 - Plautus and Roman Comedy</p><ul><li>05:29 - What we know about Plautus himself (his dates, his name, his background)</li><li>09:41 - Plautus' style: Roman comedy, exotic settings, stock plots, and stock characters</li></ul><br/><p>17:56 - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum: Plautus on Screen</p><ul><li>18:51 - The setting: “A less fashionable suburb of Rome”</li><li>19:44 - The characters (Pseudolus, Hysterium, Marcus Lycus, Hero, Philia, Miles Gloriosus, and others)</li><li>23:33 - The plot, in all of its messiness</li><li>27:15 - The movie’s sources: Plautus’ Pseudolus, Mostellaria, Miles Gloriosus, and other plays</li><li>33:01 - Metatheatre in Plautus and in A Funny Thing</li><li>36:25 - The movie’s departures from Plautus: More is more! (Expansive sets, elaborate scenes, and exaggerated physical comedy)</li></ul><br/><p>43:36 - Cam and Emily discuss their reactions (and we learn the dirty secrets of Emily’s history with this film!</p><p>49:01 – Wrap-up</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://havetogawilltravel.com/episode/something-for-everyone-plautus-and-a-funny-thing-happened-on-the-way-to-the-forum]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">4052c71a-fad4-4694-8640-008f22c0ae16</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/a57ccdd3-fba8-4b23-8e92-85bff0736255/Episode-11-cover.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2025 03:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/4052c71a-fad4-4694-8640-008f22c0ae16.mp3" length="48156002" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>50:10</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>11</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/282bbca8-390d-4fa8-8994-356b80a0cf77/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>Stranger Things: Eleven’s Heroic Journey</title><itunes:title>Stranger Things: Eleven’s Heroic Journey</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Emily and Cam break down the character arc of Eleven in Stranger Things and argue that she is on a “heroic journey” like that of Herakles.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com/</a></li></ul><br/><p>For more information about Herakles and about “heroes” in Ancient Greece, listen to our previous episode:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/episode/holding-out-for-a-hero-in-ancient-greece" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com/episode/holding-out-for-a-hero-in-ancient-greece</a></li></ul><br/><p>Key literature mentioned in this episode:</p><ul><li>Joseph Campbell, <em>The Hero with A Thousand Faces</em></li><li>David Adams Leeming, <em>Mythology: The Voyage of the Hero</em></li><li>Maureen Murdock, <em>The Heroine’s Journey</em></li><li>Valerie Estelle Frankel, <em>From Girl to Goddess</em></li></ul><br/><p>—————</p><p>00:11 - Introduction</p><p>01:28 - Reprise: The Hero’s Journey</p><ul><li>01:47 - Campbell’s “Everyman” model</li><li>04:06 - Leeming’s “Chosen One” model</li><li>06:04 - Herakles and Eleven as Leeming-style, “Chosen One” Heroes</li><li>08:24 - Gender and the Hero’s Journey: Maureen Murdock and Valerie Estelle Frankel</li></ul><br/><p>11:29 - Eleven’s Heroic Journey so far: Eleven as Herakles with a Gendered Twist</p><ul><li>11:59 - Stranger Things: An Overview</li><li>13:10 - Season One: Eleven as a character in the model of Obi Wan?</li><li>16:54 - Season Two: Eleven emerges as a Hero on a Leeming-style journey, with elements of Murdock’s and Frankel’s models</li><li>25:11 - Season Three: the (metaphorical) death of the hero, Eleven</li><li>28:21 - Season Four: Eleven descends to the underworld, and is reborn?</li><li>33:28 - Recap: Leeming’s model and the stages of Eleven’s Heroic Journey</li></ul><br/><p>37:30 - Predictions for Season Five: How will Eleven’s Heroic Journey end?</p><ul><li>38:14 - The three basic possibilities: (1) Eleven as superhero; (2) Eleven as Campbell-style “Everyman” hero; (3) Eleven as a “Chosen One” hero</li><li>41:52 - What Herakles’ journey tells us about Eleven and about Stranger Things</li></ul><br/><p>43:26 - Wrap-up</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emily and Cam break down the character arc of Eleven in Stranger Things and argue that she is on a “heroic journey” like that of Herakles.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com/</a></li></ul><br/><p>For more information about Herakles and about “heroes” in Ancient Greece, listen to our previous episode:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/episode/holding-out-for-a-hero-in-ancient-greece" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com/episode/holding-out-for-a-hero-in-ancient-greece</a></li></ul><br/><p>Key literature mentioned in this episode:</p><ul><li>Joseph Campbell, <em>The Hero with A Thousand Faces</em></li><li>David Adams Leeming, <em>Mythology: The Voyage of the Hero</em></li><li>Maureen Murdock, <em>The Heroine’s Journey</em></li><li>Valerie Estelle Frankel, <em>From Girl to Goddess</em></li></ul><br/><p>—————</p><p>00:11 - Introduction</p><p>01:28 - Reprise: The Hero’s Journey</p><ul><li>01:47 - Campbell’s “Everyman” model</li><li>04:06 - Leeming’s “Chosen One” model</li><li>06:04 - Herakles and Eleven as Leeming-style, “Chosen One” Heroes</li><li>08:24 - Gender and the Hero’s Journey: Maureen Murdock and Valerie Estelle Frankel</li></ul><br/><p>11:29 - Eleven’s Heroic Journey so far: Eleven as Herakles with a Gendered Twist</p><ul><li>11:59 - Stranger Things: An Overview</li><li>13:10 - Season One: Eleven as a character in the model of Obi Wan?</li><li>16:54 - Season Two: Eleven emerges as a Hero on a Leeming-style journey, with elements of Murdock’s and Frankel’s models</li><li>25:11 - Season Three: the (metaphorical) death of the hero, Eleven</li><li>28:21 - Season Four: Eleven descends to the underworld, and is reborn?</li><li>33:28 - Recap: Leeming’s model and the stages of Eleven’s Heroic Journey</li></ul><br/><p>37:30 - Predictions for Season Five: How will Eleven’s Heroic Journey end?</p><ul><li>38:14 - The three basic possibilities: (1) Eleven as superhero; (2) Eleven as Campbell-style “Everyman” hero; (3) Eleven as a “Chosen One” hero</li><li>41:52 - What Herakles’ journey tells us about Eleven and about Stranger Things</li></ul><br/><p>43:26 - Wrap-up</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://havetogawilltravel.com/episode/stranger-things-elevens-heroic-journey]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">68743f10-cb7f-4e0b-abc7-4f8a5f56c9da</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/6e2f5f63-91ed-4558-8efa-d9e455e52147/Episode-10-cover.jpg"/><pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2025 03:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/68743f10-cb7f-4e0b-abc7-4f8a5f56c9da.mp3" length="44009429" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>45:51</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>10</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/3f2ae855-a3a8-462e-aba3-2fd7da0c2efe/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>Holding Out for a Hero (in Ancient Greece)</title><itunes:title>Holding Out for a Hero (in Ancient Greece)</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>What’s a “hero”, and what kinds of stories do we tell about them? Emily and Cam explore how heroes were imagined in ancient Greece as they lay the groundwork for next episode’s discussion of Eleven’s heroic journey in Stranger Things.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p>Links:</p><p><br></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.nypl.org/blog/2021/03/18/heroines-fairytales-folklore-fables-legends" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">NYPL’s list of “Heroines in Fairytales, Folklore, Fables and Legends for Young Readers<strong>”</strong></a></li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Cover Image:</p><p><br></p><p>Pylades, Orestes, and Elektra perform rites at the tomb of Agamemnon. Painted in the late fourth century BCE on an amphora made in one of the Greek cities of southern Italy (which is now held at the MFA in Boston). Photo by Emily.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>----------</p><p><br></p><p>00:11 - Introduction</p><p>01:15 - What is a hero?</p><ul><li>01:33 - Some modern definitions of hero</li><li>02:52 - The roots of the word “hero” in ancient Greek (and maybe earlier)</li><li>04:12 - The various meanings of “hero” in ancient Greece: leaders, godlike heroes, and mortals given divine honors</li><li>13:09 – The flexibility of the hero concept in ancient Greece, and some examples: Achilles, Sarpedon, Theagenes of Thasos, and Kleomedes of Astypalaia</li><li>20:15 – Death and the hero in ancient Greece, and some strange cases: Asklepios and Herakles</li></ul><br/><p>26:51 - The stories we tell about heroes</p><ul><li>27:39 – Two models of the “hero’s journey”: Joseph Campbell, “The Hero with a Thousand Faces”, and David Adams Leeming, “Mythology”</li><li>30:57 - A digression on problematic treatments of gender in hero studies</li><li>33:40 - Odysseus as the Cambell-style “everyman” hero</li><li>36:00 - Herakles as the Leeming-style “Chosen One”</li><li>42:26 – Coda: Alexander the Great and Herakles</li></ul><br/><p>44:17 - Wrap-up and teaser for our next episode on Stranger Things’ “Eleven”</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What’s a “hero”, and what kinds of stories do we tell about them? Emily and Cam explore how heroes were imagined in ancient Greece as they lay the groundwork for next episode’s discussion of Eleven’s heroic journey in Stranger Things.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p>Links:</p><p><br></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.nypl.org/blog/2021/03/18/heroines-fairytales-folklore-fables-legends" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">NYPL’s list of “Heroines in Fairytales, Folklore, Fables and Legends for Young Readers<strong>”</strong></a></li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Cover Image:</p><p><br></p><p>Pylades, Orestes, and Elektra perform rites at the tomb of Agamemnon. Painted in the late fourth century BCE on an amphora made in one of the Greek cities of southern Italy (which is now held at the MFA in Boston). Photo by Emily.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>----------</p><p><br></p><p>00:11 - Introduction</p><p>01:15 - What is a hero?</p><ul><li>01:33 - Some modern definitions of hero</li><li>02:52 - The roots of the word “hero” in ancient Greek (and maybe earlier)</li><li>04:12 - The various meanings of “hero” in ancient Greece: leaders, godlike heroes, and mortals given divine honors</li><li>13:09 – The flexibility of the hero concept in ancient Greece, and some examples: Achilles, Sarpedon, Theagenes of Thasos, and Kleomedes of Astypalaia</li><li>20:15 – Death and the hero in ancient Greece, and some strange cases: Asklepios and Herakles</li></ul><br/><p>26:51 - The stories we tell about heroes</p><ul><li>27:39 – Two models of the “hero’s journey”: Joseph Campbell, “The Hero with a Thousand Faces”, and David Adams Leeming, “Mythology”</li><li>30:57 - A digression on problematic treatments of gender in hero studies</li><li>33:40 - Odysseus as the Cambell-style “everyman” hero</li><li>36:00 - Herakles as the Leeming-style “Chosen One”</li><li>42:26 – Coda: Alexander the Great and Herakles</li></ul><br/><p>44:17 - Wrap-up and teaser for our next episode on Stranger Things’ “Eleven”</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://havetogawilltravel.com/episode/holding-out-for-a-hero-in-ancient-greece]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">20e0638e-6a28-41ba-8c8b-75a2ca18fe67</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/f3364edd-9e8b-4907-89a3-1c053226db12/Ep9-Cover.jpg"/><pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2025 03:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/20e0638e-6a28-41ba-8c8b-75a2ca18fe67.mp3" length="44528952" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>46:23</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>9</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/246854a1-a3fb-4155-9f3e-1e5ce1df26e8/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>The Athenian Acropolis, Throughout the Ages</title><itunes:title>The Athenian Acropolis, Throughout the Ages</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Athenian Acropolis, Then and Now</strong></p><p>The Athenian Acropolis had a long life both before and after the construction of the Parthenon in the fifth century BCE. Join Emily and Cam as they explore the long history of Athens’ most iconic landmark.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe and to find us on social media:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p>Cover Image: Illustration from&nbsp;<em>Atene Attica Descritta da suoi Principii sino all’acquisto fatto dall’Armi Venete nel 1687,  </em>by Francesco Fanelli. (<em>Venice, Antonio Bortoli</em>, 1695 edition.)</p><p><br></p><p>Links:</p><p><br></p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/some-bronze-age-remnants-on-the-acropolis" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our short blog post</a>&nbsp;featuring pictures of Bronze Age remnants on the Acropolis.</li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGitmYl6U90" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Parthenon, by Costa-Gavras</a>. A short video depicting the Parthenon and its evolution through time (featuring Byron’s poem about Elgin).</li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T7_oi985dg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Acropolis of Athens, 3500 BC – 2010 AD</a>, by Ancient Athens 3D. Another short video, this one depicting the evolution of the Acropolis as a whole.</li><li><a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Schinkel_%E2%80%93_Acropolis_Palace_%E2%80%93_Ansichten_von_Westen_und_S%C3%BCden.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A concept drawing</a>&nbsp;of Schinkel’s vision for the new royal palace on the Acropolis.</li><li><a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Schinkel_%E2%80%93_Acropolis_Palace_%E2%80%93_Grundriss.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A ground plan</a>&nbsp;of Schinkel’s vision for the new royal palace on the Acropolis.</li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>----------</p><p><br></p><p>00:11 - Introduction</p><p><br></p><p>02:24 - The Acropolis in the Bronze Age</p><ul><li>02:29 - An overview of the Bronze Age in Greece</li><li>03:15 - The Bronze Age citadel on the Acropolis</li><li>04:43 - Traces of the Bronze Age on the Acropolis today</li></ul><br/><p>06:36 - The Acropolis in the Archaic Period</p><ul><li>06:37 - The Bronze Age Collapse</li><li>07:29 - Ancient interpretations of Bronze Age monuments</li><li>08:48 - The great temples of the Archaic period: what can we know?</li><li>11:45 - The Pre-Parthenon</li></ul><br/><p>13:34 - The Hellenistic and Roman Acropolis</p><ul><li>13:43 - Post-classical Athens as a cultural center</li><li>14:40 - Alexander the Great, the Hellenistic rulers of Pergamon, and the Romans</li><li>15:57 - Pausanias visits the Acropolis in the 2nd&nbsp;century CE</li></ul><br/><p>17:11 - The Byzantine period and the coming of Christianity</p><ul><li>17:17 - The Parthenon: from temple, to church, to the Cathedral of Theotokos Atheniotissa</li><li>18:28 - Medieval architectural modifications to the Parthenon</li><li>20:09 - The ancient metopes of the Parthenon defaced</li><li>21:51 - The Parthenon as a site of Christian pilgrimage</li></ul><br/><p>22:28 - The Fourth Crusade and its impact in Athens</p><ul><li>22:41 - The crusaders sack Constantinople and conquer Greece</li><li>23:24 - The Acropolis in the era of the Franks</li></ul><br/><p>25:12 - The Acropolis under Ottoman Rule</p><ul><li>25:19 - Mehmet II and the conquest of Greece</li><li>25:44 - The Parthenon becomes a mosque</li><li>26:23 - The Venetian siege of Athens and the explosion heard round the world</li><li>29:34 - Lord Elgin removes many of the Parthenon’s sculptures</li></ul><br/><p>37:38 - The Acropolis after the Greek War of Independence</p><ul><li>38:14 - The new king of the Hellenes and plans for the Acropolis</li><li>39:24 - The “restoration” of the fifth-century BCE Acropolis</li><li>42:12 - Modern work on the Acropolis</li><li>42:32 - The ethics of archaeological site preservation and presentation</li></ul><br/><p>45:03 - Wrap-up: the enduring significance of the Acropolis</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Athenian Acropolis, Then and Now</strong></p><p>The Athenian Acropolis had a long life both before and after the construction of the Parthenon in the fifth century BCE. Join Emily and Cam as they explore the long history of Athens’ most iconic landmark.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe and to find us on social media:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p>Cover Image: Illustration from&nbsp;<em>Atene Attica Descritta da suoi Principii sino all’acquisto fatto dall’Armi Venete nel 1687,  </em>by Francesco Fanelli. (<em>Venice, Antonio Bortoli</em>, 1695 edition.)</p><p><br></p><p>Links:</p><p><br></p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/some-bronze-age-remnants-on-the-acropolis" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our short blog post</a>&nbsp;featuring pictures of Bronze Age remnants on the Acropolis.</li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGitmYl6U90" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Parthenon, by Costa-Gavras</a>. A short video depicting the Parthenon and its evolution through time (featuring Byron’s poem about Elgin).</li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T7_oi985dg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Acropolis of Athens, 3500 BC – 2010 AD</a>, by Ancient Athens 3D. Another short video, this one depicting the evolution of the Acropolis as a whole.</li><li><a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Schinkel_%E2%80%93_Acropolis_Palace_%E2%80%93_Ansichten_von_Westen_und_S%C3%BCden.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A concept drawing</a>&nbsp;of Schinkel’s vision for the new royal palace on the Acropolis.</li><li><a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Schinkel_%E2%80%93_Acropolis_Palace_%E2%80%93_Grundriss.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A ground plan</a>&nbsp;of Schinkel’s vision for the new royal palace on the Acropolis.</li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>----------</p><p><br></p><p>00:11 - Introduction</p><p><br></p><p>02:24 - The Acropolis in the Bronze Age</p><ul><li>02:29 - An overview of the Bronze Age in Greece</li><li>03:15 - The Bronze Age citadel on the Acropolis</li><li>04:43 - Traces of the Bronze Age on the Acropolis today</li></ul><br/><p>06:36 - The Acropolis in the Archaic Period</p><ul><li>06:37 - The Bronze Age Collapse</li><li>07:29 - Ancient interpretations of Bronze Age monuments</li><li>08:48 - The great temples of the Archaic period: what can we know?</li><li>11:45 - The Pre-Parthenon</li></ul><br/><p>13:34 - The Hellenistic and Roman Acropolis</p><ul><li>13:43 - Post-classical Athens as a cultural center</li><li>14:40 - Alexander the Great, the Hellenistic rulers of Pergamon, and the Romans</li><li>15:57 - Pausanias visits the Acropolis in the 2nd&nbsp;century CE</li></ul><br/><p>17:11 - The Byzantine period and the coming of Christianity</p><ul><li>17:17 - The Parthenon: from temple, to church, to the Cathedral of Theotokos Atheniotissa</li><li>18:28 - Medieval architectural modifications to the Parthenon</li><li>20:09 - The ancient metopes of the Parthenon defaced</li><li>21:51 - The Parthenon as a site of Christian pilgrimage</li></ul><br/><p>22:28 - The Fourth Crusade and its impact in Athens</p><ul><li>22:41 - The crusaders sack Constantinople and conquer Greece</li><li>23:24 - The Acropolis in the era of the Franks</li></ul><br/><p>25:12 - The Acropolis under Ottoman Rule</p><ul><li>25:19 - Mehmet II and the conquest of Greece</li><li>25:44 - The Parthenon becomes a mosque</li><li>26:23 - The Venetian siege of Athens and the explosion heard round the world</li><li>29:34 - Lord Elgin removes many of the Parthenon’s sculptures</li></ul><br/><p>37:38 - The Acropolis after the Greek War of Independence</p><ul><li>38:14 - The new king of the Hellenes and plans for the Acropolis</li><li>39:24 - The “restoration” of the fifth-century BCE Acropolis</li><li>42:12 - Modern work on the Acropolis</li><li>42:32 - The ethics of archaeological site preservation and presentation</li></ul><br/><p>45:03 - Wrap-up: the enduring significance of the Acropolis</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://havetogawilltravel.com/episode/the-athenian-acropolis-throughout-the-ages]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">0bea1203-ee69-4eda-b1dd-5ca298f1f59a</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/ab91c389-c26b-4f09-9e84-3c26f672ae56/Episode-8-cover.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2025 03:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/0bea1203-ee69-4eda-b1dd-5ca298f1f59a.mp3" length="47311724" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>49:17</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>8</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/ba093348-25f2-437e-9c69-458b9311acad/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>The Athenian Acropolis, Then and Now</title><itunes:title>The Athenian Acropolis, Then and Now</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Emily and Cam talk about what it’s like to visit the Athenian Acropolis today; how that experience compares to what visitors would have seen in the fifth century BCE; when and why the remains of the structures there today were created (especially the Parthenon and the Erechtheion); and what those structures meant to ancient Athenians.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe and to find us on social media:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p>Episode Links:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/athena-in-nashville-a-replica-of-pheidias-athena-parthenon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our short blog post</a>&nbsp;featuring pictures of Nashville’s replica of the Athena Parthenos statue.</li></ul><br/><p>----------</p><p>00:11 - Introduction</p><p>02:05 - Visiting the Acropolis: the modern experience</p><ul><li>02:32 - The geography of Attica</li><li>03:41 - Our first impressions of the Acropolis (and how Goethe did it better)</li><li>05:45 - What visiting the Acropolis is like: sacred and profane space; the temple of Athena Nikē (and aspects of the gods); the Propylaia; the Parthenon; the Erectheion; the Dörpfeld Foundations</li></ul><br/><p>14:23 - What visiting the Acropolis was like in the fifth century BCE</p><ul><li>14:30 - The ramp</li><li>16:28 - Athena Promachos</li><li>17:01 - Colorful temples</li><li>17:38 - Dedications everywhere (and why dedications mattered)</li></ul><br/><p>20:20 - How and when the structures on the Acropolis came to be</p><ul><li>20:25 - The basic context: Darius, Xerxes, and the Persian invasions of Greece</li><li>22:20 - The Oath of Plataia: the Greeks swear not to rebuild their temples</li><li>23:59 - What changed? War in the Aegean, the Peace of Kallias, and the Athenian Empire</li></ul><br/><p>29:01 - The Parthenon</p><ul><li>29:26 - The basics of the Parthenon and Greek architectural orders</li><li>32:38 - The Parthenon’s pediment sculptures: the west pediment group and the east pediment group</li><li>37:31 - The metopes: the Amazonomachy (west), the Trojan War (north), the Gigantomachy (east), Lapiths vs. Centaurs (south)</li><li>40:37 - The Ionic frieze and various interpretations of its imagery</li><li>43:53 - Pheidias’ statue of Athena and its decoration</li><li>46:04 - The meaning of the Parthenon’s sculpture: the Athenians, their empire, and their imperial mission</li></ul><br/><p>49:41 - The Erechtheion</p><ul><li>49:49 - The fundamental weirdness of the Erechtheion</li><li>52:08 - Why is it so strange? The persistence of ancient ritual.</li><li>52:54 - The most sacred image of Athena: the Xoanon</li><li>54:08 - Is the building we call the Erechtheion the building the ancient Athenians (and Pausanias) called the Erechtheion? Or is it the temple of Athena Polias?</li><li>56:48 - Emily delivers a fine rant about the perils of “received wisdom” in Classics</li><li>1:01:08 - Cam footnotes Emily’s rant with a digression on <em>horror vacui</em></li></ul><br/><p>1:02:02 - Wrap-up&nbsp;</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Emily and Cam talk about what it’s like to visit the Athenian Acropolis today; how that experience compares to what visitors would have seen in the fifth century BCE; when and why the remains of the structures there today were created (especially the Parthenon and the Erechtheion); and what those structures meant to ancient Athenians.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe and to find us on social media:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p>Episode Links:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/athena-in-nashville-a-replica-of-pheidias-athena-parthenon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our short blog post</a>&nbsp;featuring pictures of Nashville’s replica of the Athena Parthenos statue.</li></ul><br/><p>----------</p><p>00:11 - Introduction</p><p>02:05 - Visiting the Acropolis: the modern experience</p><ul><li>02:32 - The geography of Attica</li><li>03:41 - Our first impressions of the Acropolis (and how Goethe did it better)</li><li>05:45 - What visiting the Acropolis is like: sacred and profane space; the temple of Athena Nikē (and aspects of the gods); the Propylaia; the Parthenon; the Erectheion; the Dörpfeld Foundations</li></ul><br/><p>14:23 - What visiting the Acropolis was like in the fifth century BCE</p><ul><li>14:30 - The ramp</li><li>16:28 - Athena Promachos</li><li>17:01 - Colorful temples</li><li>17:38 - Dedications everywhere (and why dedications mattered)</li></ul><br/><p>20:20 - How and when the structures on the Acropolis came to be</p><ul><li>20:25 - The basic context: Darius, Xerxes, and the Persian invasions of Greece</li><li>22:20 - The Oath of Plataia: the Greeks swear not to rebuild their temples</li><li>23:59 - What changed? War in the Aegean, the Peace of Kallias, and the Athenian Empire</li></ul><br/><p>29:01 - The Parthenon</p><ul><li>29:26 - The basics of the Parthenon and Greek architectural orders</li><li>32:38 - The Parthenon’s pediment sculptures: the west pediment group and the east pediment group</li><li>37:31 - The metopes: the Amazonomachy (west), the Trojan War (north), the Gigantomachy (east), Lapiths vs. Centaurs (south)</li><li>40:37 - The Ionic frieze and various interpretations of its imagery</li><li>43:53 - Pheidias’ statue of Athena and its decoration</li><li>46:04 - The meaning of the Parthenon’s sculpture: the Athenians, their empire, and their imperial mission</li></ul><br/><p>49:41 - The Erechtheion</p><ul><li>49:49 - The fundamental weirdness of the Erechtheion</li><li>52:08 - Why is it so strange? The persistence of ancient ritual.</li><li>52:54 - The most sacred image of Athena: the Xoanon</li><li>54:08 - Is the building we call the Erechtheion the building the ancient Athenians (and Pausanias) called the Erechtheion? Or is it the temple of Athena Polias?</li><li>56:48 - Emily delivers a fine rant about the perils of “received wisdom” in Classics</li><li>1:01:08 - Cam footnotes Emily’s rant with a digression on <em>horror vacui</em></li></ul><br/><p>1:02:02 - Wrap-up&nbsp;</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://havetogawilltravel.com/episode/the-athenian-acropolis-then-and-now]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">59029333-4dba-4a95-b36a-58787be57fee</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/56dd8b7e-f701-47e4-b528-2243c33fcfd4/IMG-0755.jpeg"/><pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2025 03:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/59029333-4dba-4a95-b36a-58787be57fee.mp3" length="61383574" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:03:56</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>7</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/c2325393-d4fc-46d9-9e32-677d288806b2/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>Spartacus in Fact and Fiction</title><itunes:title>Spartacus in Fact and Fiction</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode—the final episode in a three-part series on gladiators—Emily and Cam focus on Spartacus, the most famous gladiator of all. They first discuss the causes of Spartacus’ rebellion against the Romans, and then explore how Spartacus has been represented in modern literature and film.</p><ul><li>Cover image: Vincenzo Vela, Spartacus (1848); photograph by Rama (Wikimedia commons)</li></ul><br/><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKCmyiljKo0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“I am Spartacus”</a>: an iconic scene from Kirk Douglas’ 1960 film</li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T481yh1KiY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pepsi’s “Spartacus” commercial</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4nPW69A8vo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“The Son of Spartacus”</a>: an unofficial 1962 sequel to the Kirk Douglas movie, starring Steve Reeves</li></ul><br/><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe and to find us on social media:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p>----------</p><p>00:10 - Introduction</p><p>01:11 - The sources: what can we know about Spartacus?</p><ul><li>01:27 - Plutarch, Appian, and their interest in Spartacus</li><li>02:17 - Sallust: the original source</li></ul><br/><p>02:58 - Spartacus: a basic biography</p><ul><li>03:05 - Spartacus' origin in Thrace, among the Maidi</li><li>03:16 - Spartacus' brief career as a Roman auxiliary and as a latro</li><li>03:49 - Spartacus enslaved and sold to the ludus of Lentulus Batiatus</li><li>04:44 - The gladiators escape from Batiatus’ ludus, seek refuge on Mount Vesuvius, and defeat several forces sent to suppress them</li><li>07:07 - As the rebellion gathers steam, Spartacus and his supporters drive north, and defeat three Roman armies along the way</li><li>10:04 - After Spartacus’ army turns south again, winning yet another major battle, the Romans entrust Crassus with the responsibility of ending the rebellion</li><li>11:49 - The Romans outmaneuver Spartacus and defeat the rebels</li></ul><br/><p>15:31 - Why did Spartacus and his supporters rebel?</p><ul><li>15:51 - Enslaved people and small-scale resistance</li><li>17:28 - What made large-scale rebellions so difficult</li><li>18:40 - Poor living conditions as a motivation for rebellion: gladiators, enslaved herdsmen, enslaved agricultural workers</li><li>21:16 - Poor prospects for winning manumission as a further motivation for rebellion</li><li>23:03 - Many of the rebels had been enslaved only recently and longed to reclaim their freedom</li></ul><br/><p>24:52 - What were Spartacus and his supporters attempting to accomplish?</p><ul><li>25:15 - To escape from Italy, or not? The sources and the problem of reconstructing Spartacus’ plans</li><li>27:01 - Modern approaches: (1) The sources had it right; (2) Spartacus had a larger agenda—whether to destroy the hegemony of Rome in Italy, or to end slavery</li><li>28:15 - A critique of these approaches, and an alternative: staying together was the best guarantee of freedom</li></ul><br/><p>31:16 - The ongoing resonance of Spartacus in modern literature, film, and television</p><ul><li>32:29 - The discovery of Spartacus by French and Italian thinkers in the 18th&nbsp;and 19th&nbsp;centuries</li><li>33:35 - The Marxist and communist take on Spartacus</li><li>35:40 - 20th&nbsp;century novels: Koestler’s “The Gladiators” and Fast’s “Spartacus”</li><li>38:20 - Spartacus goes to Hollywood: Kirk Douglas’ 1960 film and Spartacus as social revolutionary</li><li>49:08 - A Spartacus for the 20th&nbsp;century: Andy Whitfield as Spartacus</li></ul><br/><p>51:05 - Wrap-up</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode—the final episode in a three-part series on gladiators—Emily and Cam focus on Spartacus, the most famous gladiator of all. They first discuss the causes of Spartacus’ rebellion against the Romans, and then explore how Spartacus has been represented in modern literature and film.</p><ul><li>Cover image: Vincenzo Vela, Spartacus (1848); photograph by Rama (Wikimedia commons)</li></ul><br/><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKCmyiljKo0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“I am Spartacus”</a>: an iconic scene from Kirk Douglas’ 1960 film</li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T481yh1KiY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pepsi’s “Spartacus” commercial</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4nPW69A8vo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“The Son of Spartacus”</a>: an unofficial 1962 sequel to the Kirk Douglas movie, starring Steve Reeves</li></ul><br/><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe and to find us on social media:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p>----------</p><p>00:10 - Introduction</p><p>01:11 - The sources: what can we know about Spartacus?</p><ul><li>01:27 - Plutarch, Appian, and their interest in Spartacus</li><li>02:17 - Sallust: the original source</li></ul><br/><p>02:58 - Spartacus: a basic biography</p><ul><li>03:05 - Spartacus' origin in Thrace, among the Maidi</li><li>03:16 - Spartacus' brief career as a Roman auxiliary and as a latro</li><li>03:49 - Spartacus enslaved and sold to the ludus of Lentulus Batiatus</li><li>04:44 - The gladiators escape from Batiatus’ ludus, seek refuge on Mount Vesuvius, and defeat several forces sent to suppress them</li><li>07:07 - As the rebellion gathers steam, Spartacus and his supporters drive north, and defeat three Roman armies along the way</li><li>10:04 - After Spartacus’ army turns south again, winning yet another major battle, the Romans entrust Crassus with the responsibility of ending the rebellion</li><li>11:49 - The Romans outmaneuver Spartacus and defeat the rebels</li></ul><br/><p>15:31 - Why did Spartacus and his supporters rebel?</p><ul><li>15:51 - Enslaved people and small-scale resistance</li><li>17:28 - What made large-scale rebellions so difficult</li><li>18:40 - Poor living conditions as a motivation for rebellion: gladiators, enslaved herdsmen, enslaved agricultural workers</li><li>21:16 - Poor prospects for winning manumission as a further motivation for rebellion</li><li>23:03 - Many of the rebels had been enslaved only recently and longed to reclaim their freedom</li></ul><br/><p>24:52 - What were Spartacus and his supporters attempting to accomplish?</p><ul><li>25:15 - To escape from Italy, or not? The sources and the problem of reconstructing Spartacus’ plans</li><li>27:01 - Modern approaches: (1) The sources had it right; (2) Spartacus had a larger agenda—whether to destroy the hegemony of Rome in Italy, or to end slavery</li><li>28:15 - A critique of these approaches, and an alternative: staying together was the best guarantee of freedom</li></ul><br/><p>31:16 - The ongoing resonance of Spartacus in modern literature, film, and television</p><ul><li>32:29 - The discovery of Spartacus by French and Italian thinkers in the 18th&nbsp;and 19th&nbsp;centuries</li><li>33:35 - The Marxist and communist take on Spartacus</li><li>35:40 - 20th&nbsp;century novels: Koestler’s “The Gladiators” and Fast’s “Spartacus”</li><li>38:20 - Spartacus goes to Hollywood: Kirk Douglas’ 1960 film and Spartacus as social revolutionary</li><li>49:08 - A Spartacus for the 20th&nbsp;century: Andy Whitfield as Spartacus</li></ul><br/><p>51:05 - Wrap-up</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://havetogawilltravel.com/episode/spartacus-in-fact-and-fiction]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">d3705c54-29ff-4b57-b4ea-abe74c43060b</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/855dbb26-d5ae-48c2-8b14-61b4508a2623/Vela-Spartacus.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2025 03:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/d3705c54-29ff-4b57-b4ea-abe74c43060b.mp3" length="50694268" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>52:48</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>6</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/40cde2f5-6c5f-4c59-ac34-45abbfefcb0b/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>Roman Gladiator Games</title><itunes:title>Roman Gladiator Games</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode—the second of three on gladiators and related topics—Emily and Cam talk about what happened in the Colosseum and in other Roman arenas. First, they discuss the kinds of things that people would expect to see when they went to the games, including beast shows, public executions, and gladiator matches. Then, they focus on the gladiators themselves: who were they, and what were their lives like?</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zliten_mosaic" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Zliten mosaic (with pictures)</a></li><li><a href="https://pompeiiinpictures.com/pompeiiinpictures/Tombs/tombs%20nocen%20p3.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gladiator Graffiti near the Porta Nocera in Pompeii (scroll down toward bottom, to the section on tomb 14EN)</a></li><li><a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Milano_Stele_del_gladiatore_Urbico.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Image of the tombstone of Urbicus the Secutor</a></li></ul><br/><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe and to find us on social media:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p>----------</p><p>00:10 - Introduction</p><p>01:57 - The Games</p><ul><li>02:14 - Funeral games and the origins and development of gladiator combat</li><li>06:17 - The games in the age of the Colosseum</li><li>08:44 - Beast shows and hunters (venatores)</li><li>11:22 - Public punishments and spectacular executions</li><li>15:00 - Gladiator combat: gladiator graffiti from Pompeii and the excitement of the matched pair</li><li>19:52 - Mock battles, naval and otherwise, with a digression on Certamen players and the phrase “we who are about to die salute you”</li><li>23:13 - Keeping score: gladiator win-loss records, referees, and the possibility of survival</li><li>26:22 - An underdog story: the victories of Marcus Attilius at Nola</li><li>28:37 - Gladiators as celebrities (and sex symbols)</li></ul><br/><p>31:48 - The Gladiators: who were they, and what were their lives like?</p><ul><li>32:14 - Who fought as gladiators?</li><li>33:14 - Gladiator “schools” (ludi) and managers (lanistae)</li><li>37:02 - Gladiator cemeteries and what they tell us about living conditions (diet, injuries, life expectancy)</li><li>43:22 - Evidence from tombstones: why did free people fight as gladiators?</li><li>50:08 - Evidence from tombstones: the lives of enslaved gladiators&nbsp;</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode—the second of three on gladiators and related topics—Emily and Cam talk about what happened in the Colosseum and in other Roman arenas. First, they discuss the kinds of things that people would expect to see when they went to the games, including beast shows, public executions, and gladiator matches. Then, they focus on the gladiators themselves: who were they, and what were their lives like?</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zliten_mosaic" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Zliten mosaic (with pictures)</a></li><li><a href="https://pompeiiinpictures.com/pompeiiinpictures/Tombs/tombs%20nocen%20p3.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gladiator Graffiti near the Porta Nocera in Pompeii (scroll down toward bottom, to the section on tomb 14EN)</a></li><li><a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Milano_Stele_del_gladiatore_Urbico.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Image of the tombstone of Urbicus the Secutor</a></li></ul><br/><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe and to find us on social media:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p>----------</p><p>00:10 - Introduction</p><p>01:57 - The Games</p><ul><li>02:14 - Funeral games and the origins and development of gladiator combat</li><li>06:17 - The games in the age of the Colosseum</li><li>08:44 - Beast shows and hunters (venatores)</li><li>11:22 - Public punishments and spectacular executions</li><li>15:00 - Gladiator combat: gladiator graffiti from Pompeii and the excitement of the matched pair</li><li>19:52 - Mock battles, naval and otherwise, with a digression on Certamen players and the phrase “we who are about to die salute you”</li><li>23:13 - Keeping score: gladiator win-loss records, referees, and the possibility of survival</li><li>26:22 - An underdog story: the victories of Marcus Attilius at Nola</li><li>28:37 - Gladiators as celebrities (and sex symbols)</li></ul><br/><p>31:48 - The Gladiators: who were they, and what were their lives like?</p><ul><li>32:14 - Who fought as gladiators?</li><li>33:14 - Gladiator “schools” (ludi) and managers (lanistae)</li><li>37:02 - Gladiator cemeteries and what they tell us about living conditions (diet, injuries, life expectancy)</li><li>43:22 - Evidence from tombstones: why did free people fight as gladiators?</li><li>50:08 - Evidence from tombstones: the lives of enslaved gladiators&nbsp;</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://havetogawilltravel.com/episode/roman-gladiator-games]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">7b7217be-eaf1-478c-b0be-fd6af05b4468</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/5fe18a7a-fedb-4ee1-b099-e7283a7b1e56/P5110107.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2025 03:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/7b7217be-eaf1-478c-b0be-fd6af05b4468.mp3" length="54934046" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>57:13</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>5</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/fb83516a-a172-45e6-8f92-49a22bd19579/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>The Roman Colosseum: Origins and Survival</title><itunes:title>The Roman Colosseum: Origins and Survival</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In the first of three episodes about gladiators in ancient Rome, Emily and Cam explore the world’s most iconic remnant of ancient gladiator games: the Roman Colosseum. They talk about the appearance of the building, then and now; the origins of the building as part of the emperor Vespasian’s effort to legitimize his power; and the cycles of destruction and renewal that produced the ruin that survives in Rome today.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe and to find us on social media:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p>----------</p><p><strong>00:10 - Introduction</strong></p><ul><li>00:23 - The Colosseum: an iconic remnant of ancient Rome and its gladiator games</li><li>00:57 - First impressions of the Colosseum in Rome from the exterior</li><li>03:31 - The Colosseum’s interior: the exhibit spaces in the upper ambulatory and the arena</li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p><strong>05:38 - The Colosseum as it was in ancient Rome</strong></p><ul><li>05:59 - The Colosseum, or the Flavian Amphitheatre?</li><li>06:58 - What’s an amphitheatre? A southern Italian innovation, influenced by Greek theaters</li><li>09:04 - The spread of amphitheatres in ancient Italy and elsewhere</li><li>10:05 - The Roman Colosseum in its heyday: its appearance, its structure, and its amenities</li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p><strong>16:08 – Why was the Colosseum built? Vespasian and the legitimacy of the Flavian dynasty</strong></p><ul><li>16:39 - Augustus and the legitimacy of imperial power</li><li>19:05 - The fall of Augustus’ dynasty and the rise of Vespasian</li><li>20:39 - Vespasian and the ideological importance of the Flavian Amphitheatre</li><li>22:47 - A digression on Nero and his murder of his mother, Agrippina</li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p><strong>26:06 - The survival of the Colosseum after antiquity: cycles of destruction and renewal</strong></p><ul><li>26:46 - Fires and earthquakes and flooding, oh my!</li><li>27:35 Fit for plunder: the Colosseum as a source of building materials</li><li>28:37 - Social, political, and economic transformations: the collapse of the Western Roman Empire and the decline of the Colosseum</li><li>30:17 - New Life in the 11th&nbsp;century: the palaces of the Frangipani and Annibaldi</li><li>31:15 - A loss of memory: did anyone remember what the Colosseum was for?</li><li>32:28 - Flavio Biondo and the “rediscovery” of the Colosseum</li><li>33:05 - The Catholic Church, the Italian government, and restoration</li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p><strong>33:54 - Final Thoughts and a meditation by the Venerable Bede</strong></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the first of three episodes about gladiators in ancient Rome, Emily and Cam explore the world’s most iconic remnant of ancient gladiator games: the Roman Colosseum. They talk about the appearance of the building, then and now; the origins of the building as part of the emperor Vespasian’s effort to legitimize his power; and the cycles of destruction and renewal that produced the ruin that survives in Rome today.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe and to find us on social media:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p>----------</p><p><strong>00:10 - Introduction</strong></p><ul><li>00:23 - The Colosseum: an iconic remnant of ancient Rome and its gladiator games</li><li>00:57 - First impressions of the Colosseum in Rome from the exterior</li><li>03:31 - The Colosseum’s interior: the exhibit spaces in the upper ambulatory and the arena</li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p><strong>05:38 - The Colosseum as it was in ancient Rome</strong></p><ul><li>05:59 - The Colosseum, or the Flavian Amphitheatre?</li><li>06:58 - What’s an amphitheatre? A southern Italian innovation, influenced by Greek theaters</li><li>09:04 - The spread of amphitheatres in ancient Italy and elsewhere</li><li>10:05 - The Roman Colosseum in its heyday: its appearance, its structure, and its amenities</li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p><strong>16:08 – Why was the Colosseum built? Vespasian and the legitimacy of the Flavian dynasty</strong></p><ul><li>16:39 - Augustus and the legitimacy of imperial power</li><li>19:05 - The fall of Augustus’ dynasty and the rise of Vespasian</li><li>20:39 - Vespasian and the ideological importance of the Flavian Amphitheatre</li><li>22:47 - A digression on Nero and his murder of his mother, Agrippina</li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p><strong>26:06 - The survival of the Colosseum after antiquity: cycles of destruction and renewal</strong></p><ul><li>26:46 - Fires and earthquakes and flooding, oh my!</li><li>27:35 Fit for plunder: the Colosseum as a source of building materials</li><li>28:37 - Social, political, and economic transformations: the collapse of the Western Roman Empire and the decline of the Colosseum</li><li>30:17 - New Life in the 11th&nbsp;century: the palaces of the Frangipani and Annibaldi</li><li>31:15 - A loss of memory: did anyone remember what the Colosseum was for?</li><li>32:28 - Flavio Biondo and the “rediscovery” of the Colosseum</li><li>33:05 - The Catholic Church, the Italian government, and restoration</li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p><strong>33:54 - Final Thoughts and a meditation by the Venerable Bede</strong></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://havetogawilltravel.com/episode/the-roman-colosseum-origins-and-survival]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">a942c9f3-0ef4-46ed-8fab-778b2f6b1d6c</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/9372a980-aeef-4adf-bdb5-cd0c9bba9542/jNhp8UTMKQWYPMKts0908fiH.jpg"/><pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2025 03:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/a942c9f3-0ef4-46ed-8fab-778b2f6b1d6c.mp3" length="34637948" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>36:05</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>4</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/0e8d5d71-b6ec-42fe-9cde-a7778e5d7ba2/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>Homer’s Odyssey on Film: “The Return”</title><itunes:title>Homer’s Odyssey on Film: “The Return”</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>“The Return” sticks the landing. Join Emily and Cam as they talk about how the movie adapts and builds on its source material, the Odyssey, to deliver a gripping modern interpretation of Homer’s timeless story.</p><p><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt19861162/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_in_0_q_the%2520return" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Return</a></p><ul><li>Released December 6, 2024</li><li>Starring Ralph Fiennes and Juliette Binoche</li><li>Directed by Uberto Pasolini</li></ul><br/><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe and to find us on social media:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p>----------</p><p>00:34 - Introduction: Pasolini’s movie, “The Return”</p><ul><li>00:47 - What makes a good movie adaptation of an ancient Greek epic like Homer’s Odyssey?</li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p>02:22 - A Summary of Homer’s Odyssey</p><ul><li>02:52 - The Telemachy</li><li>04:02 - From Calypso’s island to the island of the Phaeacians</li><li>04:39 - Odysseus’ narration of his adventures</li><li>05:51 - Odysseus’ return to Ithaka</li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p>06:56 - Our review of The Return</p><ul><li>07:06 - The film’s focus and nods to earlier parts of the Odyssey</li><li>08:50 - Familiar beats: Odysseus in disguise; Eumaeus, Argos, and Eurycleia; Penelope’s loom; the confrontation in the great hall</li><li>13:19 - Odysseus: a man traumatized by loss and violence</li><li>17:19 - Penelope: strong, clever, and determined</li><li>21:38 - Antinoos: a fresh take on a one-note villain</li><li>24:26 - Odysseus’ bow and the harsh reality of violence and revenge</li><li>30:44 - Resolution: Odysseus and Penlope together again, Telemachus seeks to find himself</li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p>33:08 - Final thoughts </p><ul><li>33:17 - Referencing Cacoyannis: the location, the cinematography, and the soundscape </li><li>34:22 - Overall impressions</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“The Return” sticks the landing. Join Emily and Cam as they talk about how the movie adapts and builds on its source material, the Odyssey, to deliver a gripping modern interpretation of Homer’s timeless story.</p><p><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt19861162/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_in_0_q_the%2520return" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Return</a></p><ul><li>Released December 6, 2024</li><li>Starring Ralph Fiennes and Juliette Binoche</li><li>Directed by Uberto Pasolini</li></ul><br/><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe and to find us on social media:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p>----------</p><p>00:34 - Introduction: Pasolini’s movie, “The Return”</p><ul><li>00:47 - What makes a good movie adaptation of an ancient Greek epic like Homer’s Odyssey?</li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p>02:22 - A Summary of Homer’s Odyssey</p><ul><li>02:52 - The Telemachy</li><li>04:02 - From Calypso’s island to the island of the Phaeacians</li><li>04:39 - Odysseus’ narration of his adventures</li><li>05:51 - Odysseus’ return to Ithaka</li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p>06:56 - Our review of The Return</p><ul><li>07:06 - The film’s focus and nods to earlier parts of the Odyssey</li><li>08:50 - Familiar beats: Odysseus in disguise; Eumaeus, Argos, and Eurycleia; Penelope’s loom; the confrontation in the great hall</li><li>13:19 - Odysseus: a man traumatized by loss and violence</li><li>17:19 - Penelope: strong, clever, and determined</li><li>21:38 - Antinoos: a fresh take on a one-note villain</li><li>24:26 - Odysseus’ bow and the harsh reality of violence and revenge</li><li>30:44 - Resolution: Odysseus and Penlope together again, Telemachus seeks to find himself</li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p>33:08 - Final thoughts </p><ul><li>33:17 - Referencing Cacoyannis: the location, the cinematography, and the soundscape </li><li>34:22 - Overall impressions</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://havetogawilltravel.com/episode/homers-odyssey-on-film-the-return]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">585d91e1-0e37-4707-8e5d-f1ec51d7ba92</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/c7db5ebb-bb77-4f10-a4fc-033d114baa99/jOeXe6NzoneMFigwvs6U1Zml.jpg"/><pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2025 03:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/585d91e1-0e37-4707-8e5d-f1ec51d7ba92.mp3" length="35089344" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>36:33</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>3</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/4611f129-d31a-490f-85f7-27fb537494de/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>The Athens Marathon, Part II: Walking the Marathon</title><itunes:title>The Athens Marathon, Part II: Walking the Marathon</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In Part Two of a two-part series on the Athens Marathon, Emily and Cam talk about what it’s like to participate in the Athens Marathon today. They discuss the first marathon race at the 1896 Olympic Games in Athens; the development of the marathon as a marquee sporting event; and the route of the contemporary Athens marathon.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/in-the-footsteps-of-the-marathonomachoi-walking-the-athens-marathon-part-i" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Part I of our photo essay on the Athens Marathon;</a></li><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/in-the-footsteps-of-the-marathonomachoi-walking-the-athens-marathon-part-ii" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Part II of our phot essay on the Athens Marathon;</a></li><li><a href="https://greekcitytimes.com/2024/11/19/73-year-old-cretan-runner-inspires-at-athens-marathon/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A report in the Greek Times about the 73-year-old Cretan runner, Idomeneas Avramakis.</a></li></ul><br/><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe and to find us on social media:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com/</a></li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p>----------</p><p>00:12 - Introduction</p><p><br></p><p>01:04 - The First Modern Marathon</p><ul><li>01:11 - The early Olympic movement: de Coubertin, Bréal, and the push for a long-distance race</li><li>03:52 - Picking a route: the major routes from Marathon to Athens, in the ancient world and now (with a digression on the Athenian army in 490 BC and the walk of NGL Hammond)</li><li>08:28 - The first marathon: the achievements of Spyridon Louis and Stamata Revithi</li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p>12:40 - Going the distance: 26 miles, 385 yards</p><ul><li>13:07 - The impromptu conditions of early marathons</li><li>14:01 - Refinements at the 1906 intercalated games in Athens</li><li>14:49 - Setting the official distance at the 1921 IAAF Conference and the story of the 1908 London Olympics</li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p>17:34 - The “Authentic” Athens Marathon</p><ul><li>17:45 - The history of the Athens Marathon from 1955 to the present</li><li>18:37 - Following in the footsteps of Pheidippes, or footsteps of Grigoris Lambrakis?</li><li>19:49 - The first 8km: the Marathon plain, the ancient Tomb of the Athenians, and the enthusiasm of the spectators</li><li>21:30 - The next 10km: the road to Rafina, the statue of the Runners, and the lost statue of Pheidippides</li><li>23:56 - From 18km to 31km: “The Hill”, and the barefoot runner Idomeneas Avromakis</li><li>26:27 - The final 10km: the Attic Basin, the statue of the Runner, and the finish in the Panathenaic Stadium of Herodes Atticus</li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p>32:22 - Final Thoughts</p><ul><li>32:36 The road from Marathon: an ancient and historic route</li><li>32:58 - The ancient sanctuary of Tyche and a prayer for better days ahead</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Part Two of a two-part series on the Athens Marathon, Emily and Cam talk about what it’s like to participate in the Athens Marathon today. They discuss the first marathon race at the 1896 Olympic Games in Athens; the development of the marathon as a marquee sporting event; and the route of the contemporary Athens marathon.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/in-the-footsteps-of-the-marathonomachoi-walking-the-athens-marathon-part-i" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Part I of our photo essay on the Athens Marathon;</a></li><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/in-the-footsteps-of-the-marathonomachoi-walking-the-athens-marathon-part-ii" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Part II of our phot essay on the Athens Marathon;</a></li><li><a href="https://greekcitytimes.com/2024/11/19/73-year-old-cretan-runner-inspires-at-athens-marathon/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A report in the Greek Times about the 73-year-old Cretan runner, Idomeneas Avramakis.</a></li></ul><br/><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe and to find us on social media:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com/</a></li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p>----------</p><p>00:12 - Introduction</p><p><br></p><p>01:04 - The First Modern Marathon</p><ul><li>01:11 - The early Olympic movement: de Coubertin, Bréal, and the push for a long-distance race</li><li>03:52 - Picking a route: the major routes from Marathon to Athens, in the ancient world and now (with a digression on the Athenian army in 490 BC and the walk of NGL Hammond)</li><li>08:28 - The first marathon: the achievements of Spyridon Louis and Stamata Revithi</li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p>12:40 - Going the distance: 26 miles, 385 yards</p><ul><li>13:07 - The impromptu conditions of early marathons</li><li>14:01 - Refinements at the 1906 intercalated games in Athens</li><li>14:49 - Setting the official distance at the 1921 IAAF Conference and the story of the 1908 London Olympics</li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p>17:34 - The “Authentic” Athens Marathon</p><ul><li>17:45 - The history of the Athens Marathon from 1955 to the present</li><li>18:37 - Following in the footsteps of Pheidippes, or footsteps of Grigoris Lambrakis?</li><li>19:49 - The first 8km: the Marathon plain, the ancient Tomb of the Athenians, and the enthusiasm of the spectators</li><li>21:30 - The next 10km: the road to Rafina, the statue of the Runners, and the lost statue of Pheidippides</li><li>23:56 - From 18km to 31km: “The Hill”, and the barefoot runner Idomeneas Avromakis</li><li>26:27 - The final 10km: the Attic Basin, the statue of the Runner, and the finish in the Panathenaic Stadium of Herodes Atticus</li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p>32:22 - Final Thoughts</p><ul><li>32:36 The road from Marathon: an ancient and historic route</li><li>32:58 - The ancient sanctuary of Tyche and a prayer for better days ahead</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://havetogawilltravel.com/episode/the-athens-marathon-part-ii]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">41c62eb4-b4df-4199-9ba7-fb9fa2f46539</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/2f3c2121-44ad-48e0-92d8-be966d796435/hiFH8bR0-tIprghnXTaoVAyZ.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2025 03:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/41c62eb4-b4df-4199-9ba7-fb9fa2f46539.mp3" length="35366033" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>36:50</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>2</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/92525cd4-fcda-4939-833d-6b82a391bfea/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>The Athens Marathon, Part I: In the Footsteps of Pheidippides?</title><itunes:title>The Athens Marathon, Part I: In the Footsteps of Pheidippides?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In Part One of a two-part series on the Athens Marathon, Emily and Cam dive into ancient Greek legend and history as they explore the origins of the modern marathon race. They discuss the well-known story of the messenger (Pheidippides?) who is said to have run from Marathon to Athens with news of the Athenian victory over the Persians at Marathon in 490 BCE; the context of the Battle of Marathon itself; and the accomplishments of the Athenians, who were forced to race against the clock in order to return to their city and defend it from another Persian attack.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/in-the-footsteps-of-the-marathonomachoi-walking-the-athens-marathon-part-i" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Part I of our photo essay on the Athens Marathon;</a></li><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/in-the-footsteps-of-the-marathonomachoi-walking-the-athens-marathon-part-ii" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Part II of our phot essay on the Athens Marathon;</a></li></ul><br/><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe and to find us on social media:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com/</a></li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p>----------</p><p>00:11- Introduction </p><ul><li>00:59 - Why do an episode about the Athens Marathon?</li><li>02:48 - The Origin Story: The Battle of Marathon and the Run of Pheidippides</li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p>05:11 - Is the Pheidippides story true?</p><ul><li>05:34 - The ancient traditions about Pheidipiddes’ run: Lucian, Plutarch, and Herakleides</li><li>08:48 - Herodotus on Pheidippides: the run from Athens to Sparta and back, and an epiphany along the way</li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p>12:34 - If the Pheidippides story isn’t true, why does it exist?</p><ul><li>13:09 - The Battle of Marathon offered fertile grounds for the development of legends.</li><li>13:59 - A battle against enormous odds: ancient Athens and the Persian Empire compared</li><li>16:24 - The Battle of Marathon as an existential struggle: Darius, Hippias, and the threat to Athenian democracy</li><li>20:30 - Marathon as an Athenian achievement (with a little help from the Plataians)</li><li>21:56 - Aeschylus’ tombstone: the impact of the Battle of Marathon on the ancient Athenian imagination</li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p>24:33 - In search of the real Marathon story: the desperate march back to Athens</p><ul><li>26:21 - The Battle of Marathon and its physical and mental toll</li><li>28:34 - The long march back: the race to save Athens</li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p>31:29 – Final thoughts: Ancient history and the modern marathon</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Part One of a two-part series on the Athens Marathon, Emily and Cam dive into ancient Greek legend and history as they explore the origins of the modern marathon race. They discuss the well-known story of the messenger (Pheidippides?) who is said to have run from Marathon to Athens with news of the Athenian victory over the Persians at Marathon in 490 BCE; the context of the Battle of Marathon itself; and the accomplishments of the Athenians, who were forced to race against the clock in order to return to their city and defend it from another Persian attack.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/in-the-footsteps-of-the-marathonomachoi-walking-the-athens-marathon-part-i" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Part I of our photo essay on the Athens Marathon;</a></li><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/in-the-footsteps-of-the-marathonomachoi-walking-the-athens-marathon-part-ii" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Part II of our phot essay on the Athens Marathon;</a></li></ul><br/><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe and to find us on social media:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com/</a></li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p>----------</p><p>00:11- Introduction </p><ul><li>00:59 - Why do an episode about the Athens Marathon?</li><li>02:48 - The Origin Story: The Battle of Marathon and the Run of Pheidippides</li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p>05:11 - Is the Pheidippides story true?</p><ul><li>05:34 - The ancient traditions about Pheidipiddes’ run: Lucian, Plutarch, and Herakleides</li><li>08:48 - Herodotus on Pheidippides: the run from Athens to Sparta and back, and an epiphany along the way</li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p>12:34 - If the Pheidippides story isn’t true, why does it exist?</p><ul><li>13:09 - The Battle of Marathon offered fertile grounds for the development of legends.</li><li>13:59 - A battle against enormous odds: ancient Athens and the Persian Empire compared</li><li>16:24 - The Battle of Marathon as an existential struggle: Darius, Hippias, and the threat to Athenian democracy</li><li>20:30 - Marathon as an Athenian achievement (with a little help from the Plataians)</li><li>21:56 - Aeschylus’ tombstone: the impact of the Battle of Marathon on the ancient Athenian imagination</li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p>24:33 - In search of the real Marathon story: the desperate march back to Athens</p><ul><li>26:21 - The Battle of Marathon and its physical and mental toll</li><li>28:34 - The long march back: the race to save Athens</li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p>31:29 – Final thoughts: Ancient history and the modern marathon</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://havetogawilltravel.com/episode/the-athens-marathon-part-i]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">682f07ef-d2a0-4aec-87f3-8d9d9ab6beea</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/70259bcd-1161-4703-9de8-cb91dd31c40b/nmi_wrvFmztwMup9ESeEU0Pr.jpg"/><pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2025 09:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/682f07ef-d2a0-4aec-87f3-8d9d9ab6beea.mp3" length="31969697" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>33:18</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>1</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/969e6938-ced3-45f6-8a20-96f103f00e2a/index.html" type="text/html"/></item></channel></rss>