<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><?xml-stylesheet href="https://feeds.captivate.fm/style.xsl" type="text/xsl"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:googleplay="http://www.google.com/schemas/play-podcasts/1.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" xmlns:podcast="https://podcastindex.org/namespace/1.0"><channel><atom:link href="https://feeds.captivate.fm/have-toga-will-travel/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><title><![CDATA[Have Toga, Will Travel: Exploring Greece and Rome, Ancient and Modern]]></title><podcast:guid>9657fd62-eadc-54da-87d7-bd74bab4d9e9</podcast:guid><lastBuildDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2026 23:31:17 +0000</lastBuildDate><generator>Captivate.fm</generator><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><copyright><![CDATA[Copyright 2025 Emily Jusino and Cam Hawkins]]></copyright><managingEditor>Emily Jusino, PhD (Classics) and Cam Hawkins, PhD (Ancient History)</managingEditor><itunes:summary><![CDATA[A podcast exploring the Mediterranean world, ancient and modern, through the eyes of two former Classics professors. Join Emily and Cam as they chat about all things Ancient Greek and Roman and share their own adventures exploring the Mediterranean world through history, travel, literature, and film.

Emily Jusino is a specialist in ancient Greek tragedy who also thinks deeply about how modern culture interacts with the literature and mythology of the ancient Greek and Roman worlds. Cam Hawkins has spent years reading, teaching, and writing about ancient history—ancient Greek history, ancient Roman history, and the history of a smattering of other cultures. Both have travelled extensively in Italy and Greece and love talking about their travels.

We release new episodes on or about the 1st and 15th of every month.

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Emily Jusino is a specialist in ancient Greek tragedy who also thinks deeply about how modern culture interacts with the literature and mythology of the ancient Greek and Roman worlds. Cam Hawkins has spent years reading, teaching, and writing about ancient history—ancient Greek history, ancient Roman history, and the history of a smattering of other cultures. Both have travelled extensively in Italy and Greece and love talking about their travels.

We release new episodes on or about the 1st and 15th of every month.

https://havetogawilltravel.com</description><link>https://havetogawilltravel.com</link><atom:link href="https://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com" rel="hub"/><itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Exploring Greece and Rome, Ancient and Modern]]></itunes:subtitle><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:type>episodic</itunes:type><itunes:category text="History"></itunes:category><itunes:category text="Society &amp; Culture"><itunes:category text="Places &amp; Travel"/></itunes:category><podcast:locked>no</podcast:locked><podcast:medium>podcast</podcast:medium><item><title>Odysseus in Greek Tragedy: Sophocles’ Philoctetes</title><itunes:title>Odysseus in Greek Tragedy: Sophocles’ Philoctetes</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>When modern authors and filmmakers like Christopher Nolan adapt ancient myths and characters, they are following an old and well-worn precedent. In this episode, Emily and Cam explore how the Athenian playwright Sophocles adapted a well-known story about Odysseus and used it in his play, Philoctetes, to explore questions about deception, persuasion, and intractable situations.</p><p></p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ul><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></u></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p></p><p>Links to our episodes dealing with the Odyssey:</p><ul><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/homers-odyssey-a-deep-dive-before-christopher-nolans-film" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our overview of Homer’s Odyssey</a></u>.</li><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/the-odyssey-by-christopher-nolan-our-take-on-the-movie-of-the-summer" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our episode about Christopher Nolan’s Odyssey</a></u>.</li><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/homers-odyssey-on-film-the-return" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our episode about the “The Return”</a></u>, Uberto Passolini’s splendid 2024 adaptation of Homer’s Odyssey.</li></ul><br/><p></p><p>Links to our other episodes touching on ancient drama (or adaptations thereof):</p><ul><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/aeschylus-persians-the-og-greek-tragedy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Aeschylus’ Persians: The OG Greek Tragedy</a></u>.</li><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/something-for-everyone-plautus-and-a-funny-thing-happened-on-the-way-to-the-forum" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Something for everyone! Plautus and “A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum”</a></u>.</li></ul><br/><p></p><p>Cover image: Lekythos depicting Philoctetes in the Metropolitan Museum of Art (56.171.58); adapted from a photo by Marie-Lan Nguyen, <u><a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Philoktetes_Lemnos_Met_56.171.58.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wikimedia Commons</a></u>.</p><p></p><p>----------</p><p>00:11 - Introduction</p><p>02:50 - Sophocles’ Philoctetes</p><ul><li>02:55 - The performance: 409, at the end of the Peloponnesian War</li><li>03:07 - Athenian Tragedy in the late 5th century: actors and the chorus</li><li>05:37 - The competitive context</li></ul><br/><p>07:26 - The Myth of Philoctetes</p><ul><li>07:39 - Son of Poias</li><li>07:57 - Philoctetes, the Trojan War, and Lemnos</li><li>09:37 - Philoctetes and the Bow of Herakles</li></ul><br/><p>10:30 - Philoctetes: Plot Summary</p><ul><li>10:43 - The opening scene: a plot is hatched</li><li>13:22 - The encounter with Philoctetes</li><li>15:10 - The “merchant” enters the scene</li><li>18:00 - Philoctetes’ seizure and Neoptolemus’ moral crisis</li><li>18:57 - Odysseus’ surprise entry</li><li>20:21 - Odysseus and Neoptolemus have a spat</li><li>21:35 - The epiphany</li></ul><br/><p>22:17 - Sophocles’ innovations</p><ul><li>22:54 - Lemnos: a deserted island</li><li>23:25 - Neoptolemus replaces Diomedes</li><li>24:36 - A digression on other plays about Philoctetes: Aeschylus and Euripides</li></ul><br/><p>25:57 - Odysseus in Philoctetes</p><ul><li>26:10 - Odysseus as trickster</li><li>27:14 - The Homeric precedent</li><li>28:23 - Sophocles’ move: Odysseus, disguise, and a destabilization of trust: are the minor characters who they say they are?</li></ul><br/><p>35:26 - Deception in Philoctetes</p><ul><li>35:35 - Is Odysseus the play’s “bad guy”?</li><li>38:43 - The chorus has a different view!</li><li>39:10 - Philoctetes isn’t a straightforward “good guy”!</li><li>40:48 - Neoptolemus: is deception good when you do it to help someone else?</li><li>43:57 - Sophocles doesn’t give us easy lessons</li></ul><br/><p>44:43 - Intractable Problems</p><ul><li>45:04 - The impasse</li><li>46:33 - The epiphany of Heracles and what it might mean</li><li>48:47 - A happy ending for Philoctetes—and for Odysseus!</li><li>50:15 - The value of deception: an open question (and Sophocles’ brilliance)</li></ul><br/><p>51:21 - Wrap-up</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When modern authors and filmmakers like Christopher Nolan adapt ancient myths and characters, they are following an old and well-worn precedent. In this episode, Emily and Cam explore how the Athenian playwright Sophocles adapted a well-known story about Odysseus and used it in his play, Philoctetes, to explore questions about deception, persuasion, and intractable situations.</p><p></p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ul><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></u></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p></p><p>Links to our episodes dealing with the Odyssey:</p><ul><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/homers-odyssey-a-deep-dive-before-christopher-nolans-film" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our overview of Homer’s Odyssey</a></u>.</li><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/the-odyssey-by-christopher-nolan-our-take-on-the-movie-of-the-summer" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our episode about Christopher Nolan’s Odyssey</a></u>.</li><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/homers-odyssey-on-film-the-return" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our episode about the “The Return”</a></u>, Uberto Passolini’s splendid 2024 adaptation of Homer’s Odyssey.</li></ul><br/><p></p><p>Links to our other episodes touching on ancient drama (or adaptations thereof):</p><ul><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/aeschylus-persians-the-og-greek-tragedy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Aeschylus’ Persians: The OG Greek Tragedy</a></u>.</li><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/something-for-everyone-plautus-and-a-funny-thing-happened-on-the-way-to-the-forum" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Something for everyone! Plautus and “A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum”</a></u>.</li></ul><br/><p></p><p>Cover image: Lekythos depicting Philoctetes in the Metropolitan Museum of Art (56.171.58); adapted from a photo by Marie-Lan Nguyen, <u><a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Philoktetes_Lemnos_Met_56.171.58.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wikimedia Commons</a></u>.</p><p></p><p>----------</p><p>00:11 - Introduction</p><p>02:50 - Sophocles’ Philoctetes</p><ul><li>02:55 - The performance: 409, at the end of the Peloponnesian War</li><li>03:07 - Athenian Tragedy in the late 5th century: actors and the chorus</li><li>05:37 - The competitive context</li></ul><br/><p>07:26 - The Myth of Philoctetes</p><ul><li>07:39 - Son of Poias</li><li>07:57 - Philoctetes, the Trojan War, and Lemnos</li><li>09:37 - Philoctetes and the Bow of Herakles</li></ul><br/><p>10:30 - Philoctetes: Plot Summary</p><ul><li>10:43 - The opening scene: a plot is hatched</li><li>13:22 - The encounter with Philoctetes</li><li>15:10 - The “merchant” enters the scene</li><li>18:00 - Philoctetes’ seizure and Neoptolemus’ moral crisis</li><li>18:57 - Odysseus’ surprise entry</li><li>20:21 - Odysseus and Neoptolemus have a spat</li><li>21:35 - The epiphany</li></ul><br/><p>22:17 - Sophocles’ innovations</p><ul><li>22:54 - Lemnos: a deserted island</li><li>23:25 - Neoptolemus replaces Diomedes</li><li>24:36 - A digression on other plays about Philoctetes: Aeschylus and Euripides</li></ul><br/><p>25:57 - Odysseus in Philoctetes</p><ul><li>26:10 - Odysseus as trickster</li><li>27:14 - The Homeric precedent</li><li>28:23 - Sophocles’ move: Odysseus, disguise, and a destabilization of trust: are the minor characters who they say they are?</li></ul><br/><p>35:26 - Deception in Philoctetes</p><ul><li>35:35 - Is Odysseus the play’s “bad guy”?</li><li>38:43 - The chorus has a different view!</li><li>39:10 - Philoctetes isn’t a straightforward “good guy”!</li><li>40:48 - Neoptolemus: is deception good when you do it to help someone else?</li><li>43:57 - Sophocles doesn’t give us easy lessons</li></ul><br/><p>44:43 - Intractable Problems</p><ul><li>45:04 - The impasse</li><li>46:33 - The epiphany of Heracles and what it might mean</li><li>48:47 - A happy ending for Philoctetes—and for Odysseus!</li><li>50:15 - The value of deception: an open question (and Sophocles’ brilliance)</li></ul><br/><p>51:21 - Wrap-up</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/odysseus-in-greek-tragedy-sophocles-philoctetes]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">b6c24dc9-85ac-45a6-8a4d-80db237460db</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/f944ebc3-d717-46d9-a26f-cbdb9dbd62ec/Cover2.jpeg"/><pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2026 03:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/b6c24dc9-85ac-45a6-8a4d-80db237460db.mp3" length="50568044" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>52:40</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>28</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>28</podcast:episode><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-6c957607-172e-4a38-9daa-917d29b8814e.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>The Odyssey, by Christopher Nolan: Our Take on the Movie of the Summer</title><itunes:title>The Odyssey, by Christopher Nolan: Our Take on the Movie of the Summer</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Emily and Cam take on Christopher Nolan’s film, “The Odyssey.” Everyone has an opinion on this movie, and Emily and Cam are no different. Sheep, and Cyclops, and Circe, oh my!</p><p></p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ul><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></u></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p>Useful Links:</p><ul><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/homers-odyssey-a-deep-dive-before-christopher-nolans-film" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Listen to our overview of Homer’s Odyssey</a></u>.</li><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/homers-odyssey-on-film-the-return" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Listen to our episode about the “The Return”</a></u>, Uberto Passolini’s splendid 2024 adaptation of Homer’s Odyssey.</li></ul><br/><p></p><p>Cover image: adapted from “The Wine-Dark Sea,” a photo by Alan Hughes, <u><a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%E2%80%98The_wine-dark_sea%E2%80%99_-_geograph.org.uk_-_7880875.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wikimedia Commons</a></u>.</p><p></p><p>----------</p><p>00:11 - Introduction</p><ul><li>01:06 - The bottom line (good and bad)</li><li>02:39 - The film as a reflecting pool (or theater set)</li></ul><br/><p>03:52 - Synopsis</p><p>06:45 - What we loved</p><ul><li>06:49 - Practical effects and a textured world (featuring the sheep!)</li><li>10:10 - The film’s visual language: costumes, colors, props, palaces (historical accuracy is NOT the goal here)</li><li>14:04 - A deep and talented bench of actors (with a shoutout to Himesh Patel and John Leguizamo)</li><li>17:31 - Some choice storytelling moments</li><li>20:02 - The adventure stories: Polyphemus’ cave; the sirens; the underworld; Circe</li><li>27:23 - Athena and the other gods</li></ul><br/><p>29:14 - Approaching Nolan's Odyssey</p><ul><li>29:21 - How we evaluate movies like this: give us a smart adaptation that does something interesting!</li><li>30:32 - The story Nolan wants to tell: war damages both individuals and societies, causing trauma and social collapse</li><li>33:52 - The main problem: too much telling, not enough showing</li></ul><br/><p>36:25 - Odysseus breaks the world?</p><ul><li>36:38 - The setup: Zeus’ Law, the Trojan Horse, and the Sea Peoples</li><li>37:09 - The horse: a gift for Athena, or a gift for Zeus?</li><li>38:37 - Odysseus and his crew as the “Sea Peoples”: an unconvincing yarn</li><li>44:14 - The Sea Peoples as a hollow threat?</li></ul><br/><p>47:17 - Odysseus traumatized?</p><ul><li>47:36 - The nature of Odysseus’ suffering</li><li>48:11 - Odysseus and his (lack of?) relationships with his crew</li><li>49:29 - Odysseus and Sinon</li><li>52:11 - Odysseus miraculously recovers (but doesn’t seem to learn anything?)</li></ul><br/><p>53:58 - Violence in Nolan’s film</p><ul><li>54:39 - Christopher Nolan’s take on depicting violence and alienating audiences</li><li>55:52 - The horrors witnessed by Odysseus at Troy</li><li>57:29 - Odysseus takes on the suitors</li></ul><br/><p>59:49 - Unsatisfying Endings</p><ul><li>60:08 - The problems with Penelope (and her treehouse bed!)</li><li>63:02 - Rushed endings and dangling resolutions</li><li>65:02 - Words of wisdom spoken at the bar</li></ul><br/><p>66:18 - Final takeaways: our thoughts on why this film looks the way it does</p><ul><li>66:30 - The Adventure Stories (a.k.a. the Odyssey Trap)</li><li>67:49 - Unsatisfying stakes?</li><li>68:59 - Odysseus the hero</li></ul><br/><p>71:16 - Wrap-up</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emily and Cam take on Christopher Nolan’s film, “The Odyssey.” Everyone has an opinion on this movie, and Emily and Cam are no different. Sheep, and Cyclops, and Circe, oh my!</p><p></p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ul><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></u></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p>Useful Links:</p><ul><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/homers-odyssey-a-deep-dive-before-christopher-nolans-film" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Listen to our overview of Homer’s Odyssey</a></u>.</li><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/homers-odyssey-on-film-the-return" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Listen to our episode about the “The Return”</a></u>, Uberto Passolini’s splendid 2024 adaptation of Homer’s Odyssey.</li></ul><br/><p></p><p>Cover image: adapted from “The Wine-Dark Sea,” a photo by Alan Hughes, <u><a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%E2%80%98The_wine-dark_sea%E2%80%99_-_geograph.org.uk_-_7880875.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wikimedia Commons</a></u>.</p><p></p><p>----------</p><p>00:11 - Introduction</p><ul><li>01:06 - The bottom line (good and bad)</li><li>02:39 - The film as a reflecting pool (or theater set)</li></ul><br/><p>03:52 - Synopsis</p><p>06:45 - What we loved</p><ul><li>06:49 - Practical effects and a textured world (featuring the sheep!)</li><li>10:10 - The film’s visual language: costumes, colors, props, palaces (historical accuracy is NOT the goal here)</li><li>14:04 - A deep and talented bench of actors (with a shoutout to Himesh Patel and John Leguizamo)</li><li>17:31 - Some choice storytelling moments</li><li>20:02 - The adventure stories: Polyphemus’ cave; the sirens; the underworld; Circe</li><li>27:23 - Athena and the other gods</li></ul><br/><p>29:14 - Approaching Nolan's Odyssey</p><ul><li>29:21 - How we evaluate movies like this: give us a smart adaptation that does something interesting!</li><li>30:32 - The story Nolan wants to tell: war damages both individuals and societies, causing trauma and social collapse</li><li>33:52 - The main problem: too much telling, not enough showing</li></ul><br/><p>36:25 - Odysseus breaks the world?</p><ul><li>36:38 - The setup: Zeus’ Law, the Trojan Horse, and the Sea Peoples</li><li>37:09 - The horse: a gift for Athena, or a gift for Zeus?</li><li>38:37 - Odysseus and his crew as the “Sea Peoples”: an unconvincing yarn</li><li>44:14 - The Sea Peoples as a hollow threat?</li></ul><br/><p>47:17 - Odysseus traumatized?</p><ul><li>47:36 - The nature of Odysseus’ suffering</li><li>48:11 - Odysseus and his (lack of?) relationships with his crew</li><li>49:29 - Odysseus and Sinon</li><li>52:11 - Odysseus miraculously recovers (but doesn’t seem to learn anything?)</li></ul><br/><p>53:58 - Violence in Nolan’s film</p><ul><li>54:39 - Christopher Nolan’s take on depicting violence and alienating audiences</li><li>55:52 - The horrors witnessed by Odysseus at Troy</li><li>57:29 - Odysseus takes on the suitors</li></ul><br/><p>59:49 - Unsatisfying Endings</p><ul><li>60:08 - The problems with Penelope (and her treehouse bed!)</li><li>63:02 - Rushed endings and dangling resolutions</li><li>65:02 - Words of wisdom spoken at the bar</li></ul><br/><p>66:18 - Final takeaways: our thoughts on why this film looks the way it does</p><ul><li>66:30 - The Adventure Stories (a.k.a. the Odyssey Trap)</li><li>67:49 - Unsatisfying stakes?</li><li>68:59 - Odysseus the hero</li></ul><br/><p>71:16 - Wrap-up</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/the-odyssey-by-christopher-nolan-our-take-on-the-movie-of-the-summer]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">801f3023-6fef-4a72-9499-a14db0af11da</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/e3afa1fb-4123-46e3-b9e6-b779a2a2ad04/Episode-27-cover.jpeg"/><pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2026 03:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/801f3023-6fef-4a72-9499-a14db0af11da.mp3" length="70926418" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:13:53</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>27</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>27</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/88a65839-6a2d-4a7a-a1c0-e5238c85db30/index.html" type="text/html"/><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-bd7a7a19-3c43-4dfe-a652-1ac56035fd69.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>Homer’s Odyssey: A Deep Dive (before Christopher Nolan’s Film!)</title><itunes:title>Homer’s Odyssey: A Deep Dive (before Christopher Nolan’s Film!)</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Need a refresher on Homer’s Odyssey before you watch the upcoming movie by Christopher Nolan? Emily and Cam have got you covered! In this episode, they break down the poem’s plot and its major themes as they explore topics like Odysseus’ reliability as a narrator (spoiler alert: he has none whatsoever!) and Penelope’s own craftiness.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p>Useful Links:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/homers-odyssey-on-film-the-return" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Listen to our episode about the “The Return”</a>, Uberto Passolini’s splendid 2024 adaptation of Homer’s Odyssey.</li></ul><br/><p>Cover image: “Archaic or late geometric period krater depicting Odysseus and a friend stabbing the giant Polyphemus in his only eye, clay, 670 BCE, Archaeological Museum of Argos.” Photo by Mary Harrsh, <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Archaic_or_late_geometric_period_krater_depicting_Odysseus_and_a_friend_stabbing_the_giant_Polyphemus_in_his_only_eye,_clay,_670_BCE,_Archaeological_Museum_of_Argos.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wikimedia Commons</a>.</p><p></p><p>----------</p><p>00:11 - Introduction</p><p>01:40 - What is the Odyssey?</p><ul><li>01:46 - The Odyssey, the Iliad, and other epic poems</li><li>02:23 - The Homer problem. Do we know who wrote the Odyssey, and when?</li><li>06:54 - An overview of the Odyssey’s plot</li><li>10:14 - The poem and its 24 “books”</li></ul><br/><p>11:00 - The Telemachy: Narrative</p><ul><li>11:23 - Athena visits Ithaka</li><li>12:08 - Athena’s plans for Odysseus’ son Telemachus</li><li>13:55 - Telemachus sets sail on an adventure to visit Nestor, Menelaus, and Helen</li></ul><br/><p>17:50 - The Telemachy: Themes</p><ul><li>18:01 - The vulnerability of Telemachus’ position</li><li>19:39 - Hospitality: gracious hosts and happy guests</li></ul><br/><p>21:43 - Sailing to Ithaka: Narrative</p><ul><li>22:06 - Odysseus escapes the Island of Calypso</li><li>23:18 - Shipwrecked again! Odysseus and the Phaeacians</li><li>29:28 - Odysseus tells the story of his adventures (the Cyclops, Circe, the underworld, the sirens, Scylla and Charybdis—and some other good bits)</li><li>41:29 - The Phaeacians send Odysseus home</li></ul><br/><p>42:11 - Sailing to Ithaka: Themes</p><ul><li>42:18 - More on hospitality: bad hosts and dodgy guests</li><li>45:19 - Odysseus, the man of suffering</li><li>46:30 - Odysseus, the unreliable narrator</li><li>62:50 - A postscript on the poem’s mythical geography</li></ul><br/><p>55:37 - Ithaka at last!: Narrative</p><ul><li>55:51 - Odysseus visits Eumaeus</li><li>56:41 - Telemachus returns to Ithaka—and Odysseus hatches a plan</li><li>58:42 - Odysseus among the suitors in disguise</li><li>59:57 - Penelope, Odysseus, and Eurycleia</li><li>62:23 - Penelope’s contest, Odysseus’ bow, and a massacre</li><li>64:48 - Reunions: Odysseus and Penelope, Odysseus and Laertes</li><li>65:53 - The final battle (and a deus ex machina)</li></ul><br/><p>66:39 - Ithaka at last!: Themes</p><ul><li>66:43 - How much revenge is TOO much?</li><li>72:33 - Penelope, that crafty girl</li></ul><br/><p>79:41 - Final bits and bobs</p><ul><li>79:50 - The popularity of the Odyssey over time</li><li>80:37 - Our hopes for Nolan’s film</li></ul><br/><p>81:45 - Wrap-up</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Need a refresher on Homer’s Odyssey before you watch the upcoming movie by Christopher Nolan? Emily and Cam have got you covered! In this episode, they break down the poem’s plot and its major themes as they explore topics like Odysseus’ reliability as a narrator (spoiler alert: he has none whatsoever!) and Penelope’s own craftiness.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p>Useful Links:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/homers-odyssey-on-film-the-return" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Listen to our episode about the “The Return”</a>, Uberto Passolini’s splendid 2024 adaptation of Homer’s Odyssey.</li></ul><br/><p>Cover image: “Archaic or late geometric period krater depicting Odysseus and a friend stabbing the giant Polyphemus in his only eye, clay, 670 BCE, Archaeological Museum of Argos.” Photo by Mary Harrsh, <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Archaic_or_late_geometric_period_krater_depicting_Odysseus_and_a_friend_stabbing_the_giant_Polyphemus_in_his_only_eye,_clay,_670_BCE,_Archaeological_Museum_of_Argos.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wikimedia Commons</a>.</p><p></p><p>----------</p><p>00:11 - Introduction</p><p>01:40 - What is the Odyssey?</p><ul><li>01:46 - The Odyssey, the Iliad, and other epic poems</li><li>02:23 - The Homer problem. Do we know who wrote the Odyssey, and when?</li><li>06:54 - An overview of the Odyssey’s plot</li><li>10:14 - The poem and its 24 “books”</li></ul><br/><p>11:00 - The Telemachy: Narrative</p><ul><li>11:23 - Athena visits Ithaka</li><li>12:08 - Athena’s plans for Odysseus’ son Telemachus</li><li>13:55 - Telemachus sets sail on an adventure to visit Nestor, Menelaus, and Helen</li></ul><br/><p>17:50 - The Telemachy: Themes</p><ul><li>18:01 - The vulnerability of Telemachus’ position</li><li>19:39 - Hospitality: gracious hosts and happy guests</li></ul><br/><p>21:43 - Sailing to Ithaka: Narrative</p><ul><li>22:06 - Odysseus escapes the Island of Calypso</li><li>23:18 - Shipwrecked again! Odysseus and the Phaeacians</li><li>29:28 - Odysseus tells the story of his adventures (the Cyclops, Circe, the underworld, the sirens, Scylla and Charybdis—and some other good bits)</li><li>41:29 - The Phaeacians send Odysseus home</li></ul><br/><p>42:11 - Sailing to Ithaka: Themes</p><ul><li>42:18 - More on hospitality: bad hosts and dodgy guests</li><li>45:19 - Odysseus, the man of suffering</li><li>46:30 - Odysseus, the unreliable narrator</li><li>62:50 - A postscript on the poem’s mythical geography</li></ul><br/><p>55:37 - Ithaka at last!: Narrative</p><ul><li>55:51 - Odysseus visits Eumaeus</li><li>56:41 - Telemachus returns to Ithaka—and Odysseus hatches a plan</li><li>58:42 - Odysseus among the suitors in disguise</li><li>59:57 - Penelope, Odysseus, and Eurycleia</li><li>62:23 - Penelope’s contest, Odysseus’ bow, and a massacre</li><li>64:48 - Reunions: Odysseus and Penelope, Odysseus and Laertes</li><li>65:53 - The final battle (and a deus ex machina)</li></ul><br/><p>66:39 - Ithaka at last!: Themes</p><ul><li>66:43 - How much revenge is TOO much?</li><li>72:33 - Penelope, that crafty girl</li></ul><br/><p>79:41 - Final bits and bobs</p><ul><li>79:50 - The popularity of the Odyssey over time</li><li>80:37 - Our hopes for Nolan’s film</li></ul><br/><p>81:45 - Wrap-up</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/homers-odyssey-a-deep-dive-before-christopher-nolans-film]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">8da37a1d-72be-4c20-a8b7-62ecce7a1915</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/27f3cdf7-9827-42d4-a6f4-36e07e3c0720/Ep26-square.jpeg"/><pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2026 03:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/8da37a1d-72be-4c20-a8b7-62ecce7a1915.mp3" length="79461145" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:22:46</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>26</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>26</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/f1d7a79f-0368-4d28-88b1-402c1ce1fa10/index.html" type="text/html"/><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-43784119-f204-43bf-ac50-95e59e6cfdd5.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>Thermae Romae: A Japanese Film about Ancient Roman Bathing—and Time Travel!</title><itunes:title>Thermae Romae: A Japanese Film about Ancient Roman Bathing—and Time Travel!</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Have you ever wondered what a bath-house architect from ancient Rome would think if he found himself swept through a time warp into a modern Japanese Spa? Wonder no more! Emily and Cam discuss Thermae Romae, a 2012 Japanese Film that seeks to explore precisely this question by dramatizing the adventures of one Lucius Modestus, an engineer who becomes Emperor Hadrian’s personal bath-house designer.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ul><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></u></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p>Useful Links:</p><ul><li><u><a href="https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8ftx58" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Watch Thermae Romae (with English Subtitles) on Dailymotion</a></u></li><li><u><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81264354" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Watch the Thermae Romae Novae anime series on Netflix</a></u></li></ul><br/><p></p><p>Cover art adapted from Joseph Theodor Hansen, "Tepidarium at the Forum Baths in Pompeii"</p><p>----------</p><p>00:11 - Introduction</p><p>01:56 - Thermae Romae: the basics</p><ul><li>02:28 - How to watch Thermae Romae</li><li>03:29 - A plot summary: Lucius Modestus travels through time, learns lots about Japanese bathing culture, and applies his knowledge to Roman bath-houses in the time of Hadrian</li><li>06:59 - The original Thermae Romae manga series</li><li>08:13 - The film’s success and the Thermae Romae Universe</li></ul><br/><p>10:17 - A Fish-out-of-Water Comedy</p><ul><li>10:24 - The basic premise and some of the movie’s quirks</li><li>13:35 - Modern Japanese and Ancient Roman bathing cultures, compared</li><li>19:16 - Lucius bumbles his way through modern Japan and discovers the marvels of Japanese bathing</li><li>26:05 - Poking fun of Japanese onsen culture (and a digression on the challenges of translation)</li></ul><br/><p>29:46 - Thermae Romae and Roman Culture</p><ul><li>29:56 - A quirky interpretation of real Roman history: the reign of Hadrian, the death of Antinous, and the question of succession (and deification!)</li><li>38:54 - Lucius’ (very Japanese) critique of Roman bathing culture</li><li>42:09 - Does Lucius’ critique hold water? Imperial bath-houses, neighborhood bath-houses, and bath-house sociability</li><li>47:04 - The old men from the onsen teach Lucius to care less about honor and more about community spirit</li><li>49:36 - Some final thoughts about the movie</li></ul><br/><p>51:25 - Wrap-up</p><ul><li>51:31 - What’s up next: the Odyssey—both Homer’s Odyssey, and Nolan’s Odyssey</li><li>52:26 - A plug for “The Return” (and for our episode about it!)</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you ever wondered what a bath-house architect from ancient Rome would think if he found himself swept through a time warp into a modern Japanese Spa? Wonder no more! Emily and Cam discuss Thermae Romae, a 2012 Japanese Film that seeks to explore precisely this question by dramatizing the adventures of one Lucius Modestus, an engineer who becomes Emperor Hadrian’s personal bath-house designer.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ul><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></u></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p>Useful Links:</p><ul><li><u><a href="https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8ftx58" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Watch Thermae Romae (with English Subtitles) on Dailymotion</a></u></li><li><u><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81264354" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Watch the Thermae Romae Novae anime series on Netflix</a></u></li></ul><br/><p></p><p>Cover art adapted from Joseph Theodor Hansen, "Tepidarium at the Forum Baths in Pompeii"</p><p>----------</p><p>00:11 - Introduction</p><p>01:56 - Thermae Romae: the basics</p><ul><li>02:28 - How to watch Thermae Romae</li><li>03:29 - A plot summary: Lucius Modestus travels through time, learns lots about Japanese bathing culture, and applies his knowledge to Roman bath-houses in the time of Hadrian</li><li>06:59 - The original Thermae Romae manga series</li><li>08:13 - The film’s success and the Thermae Romae Universe</li></ul><br/><p>10:17 - A Fish-out-of-Water Comedy</p><ul><li>10:24 - The basic premise and some of the movie’s quirks</li><li>13:35 - Modern Japanese and Ancient Roman bathing cultures, compared</li><li>19:16 - Lucius bumbles his way through modern Japan and discovers the marvels of Japanese bathing</li><li>26:05 - Poking fun of Japanese onsen culture (and a digression on the challenges of translation)</li></ul><br/><p>29:46 - Thermae Romae and Roman Culture</p><ul><li>29:56 - A quirky interpretation of real Roman history: the reign of Hadrian, the death of Antinous, and the question of succession (and deification!)</li><li>38:54 - Lucius’ (very Japanese) critique of Roman bathing culture</li><li>42:09 - Does Lucius’ critique hold water? Imperial bath-houses, neighborhood bath-houses, and bath-house sociability</li><li>47:04 - The old men from the onsen teach Lucius to care less about honor and more about community spirit</li><li>49:36 - Some final thoughts about the movie</li></ul><br/><p>51:25 - Wrap-up</p><ul><li>51:31 - What’s up next: the Odyssey—both Homer’s Odyssey, and Nolan’s Odyssey</li><li>52:26 - A plug for “The Return” (and for our episode about it!)</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/thermae-romae-a-japanese-film-about-ancient-roman-bathing-and-time-travel]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">d88cf993-a263-4bdb-985a-5e88a7fde3da</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/58c3caf8-0b35-414f-927f-32343ab1554e/tepidarium-square-copy-adjusted.jpeg"/><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2026 03:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/d88cf993-a263-4bdb-985a-5e88a7fde3da.mp3" length="51481285" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>53:38</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>25</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>25</podcast:episode><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-a6abd123-0fdd-4a18-9da4-30148ff6a736.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>Vacation Reminder—and a sneak peak at Season 2!</title><itunes:title>Vacation Reminder—and a sneak peak at Season 2!</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We’re dropping a quick note in our feed to remind you that we’re on vacation and won’t be releasing a full episode on June 15, but also to tease a couple of upcoming episodes—including a couple on Homer’s Odyssey and Christopher Nolan’s film of the same name!</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p>Read the first in our series of blog posts on Hadrian’s Wall here:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/hiking-hadrians-wallpart-i" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hiking Hadrian’s Wall, Part I</a></li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p>If you haven’t done so already, have a listen to our episode on The Return, a 2024 film adaptation of the Odyssey starring Ralph Fiennes and Juliette Binoche:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/homers-odyssey-on-film-the-return" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Homer’s Odyssey on Film: “The Return”</a></li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We’re dropping a quick note in our feed to remind you that we’re on vacation and won’t be releasing a full episode on June 15, but also to tease a couple of upcoming episodes—including a couple on Homer’s Odyssey and Christopher Nolan’s film of the same name!</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p>Read the first in our series of blog posts on Hadrian’s Wall here:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/hiking-hadrians-wallpart-i" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hiking Hadrian’s Wall, Part I</a></li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p>If you haven’t done so already, have a listen to our episode on The Return, a 2024 film adaptation of the Odyssey starring Ralph Fiennes and Juliette Binoche:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/homers-odyssey-on-film-the-return" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Homer’s Odyssey on Film: “The Return”</a></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://havetogawilltravel.com]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5082cf3d-aaf1-47cd-9e83-4d836f6df591</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/8ec4f5aa-9bdf-4075-b48f-86dabc2789b7/Have-Toga-Final-Square.png"/><pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2026 03:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/5082cf3d-aaf1-47cd-9e83-4d836f6df591.mp3" length="2229811" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>02:19</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>24</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>24</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/3578e428-c5e2-429a-a634-141502d8c41e/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>Hadrian’s Wall, Part IV: Walking from Birdoswald to Bowness-on-Solway</title><itunes:title>Hadrian’s Wall, Part IV: Walking from Birdoswald to Bowness-on-Solway</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Emily and Cam wrap up their series on hiking Hadrian’s Wall Path with a discussion of the final 31 miles of the Wall. Follow along as they explore medieval monuments made of wallstone, find themselves treed by some cows, and are regaled with tales of cannibals (human and otherwise!).</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ul><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></u></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p>Read the first post in our series of blog posts on Hadrian’s Wall here:</p><ul><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/hiking-hadrians-wallpart-i" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hiking Hadrian’s Wall, Part I</a></u></li></ul><br/><p>If you’re interested in hiking the Wall, you’ll find the following resources helpful:</p><ul><li><u><a href="https://www.cicerone.co.uk/hadrians-wall-path?srsltid=AfmBOooKaThgYe2HCCL1VjytbV5NQbDPJWfb8Nj3tAq-NF_Yl9KFU1De" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Walking Hadrian’s Wall Path, by Mark Richards (Cicerone Press)</a></u></li><li><u><a href="https://thetrailsshop.co.uk/products/hadrians-wall-path?_pos=1&amp;_sid=17da385f3&amp;_ss=r" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hadrian’s Wall Path, by Anthony Burton (National Trails Official Guidebook)</a></u></li><li><u><a href="https://www.harveymaps.co.uk/acatalog/Hadrian-s-Wall-Path-YHWRHA.html#SID=4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Harvey Maps, Map of Hadrian’s Wall Path</a></u></li></ul><br/><p>Finally, you’ll find the rest of the episodes in this series at the following links:</p><ul><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/hadrians-wall-part-i-the-romans-in-the-britain-and-the-imperial-frontier" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hadrian’s Wall, Part I: The Romans in Britain and the Imperial Frontier</a></u></li><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/hadrians-wall-part-ii-walking-from-wallsend-to-carrawburgh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hadrian’s Wall, Part II: Walking from Wallsend to Carrawburgh</a></u></li><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/hadrians-wall-part-iii-hiking-the-crags-sewingshields-to-birdoswald" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hadrian’s Wall, Part III: Hiking the Crags (Sewingshields to Birdoswald)</a></u></li></ul><br/><p></p><p>----------</p><p>00:11 - Introduction</p><ol><li>00:24 - Episode overview</li><li>01:11 - Housekeeping and Summer vacation</li></ol><br/><p>02:41 - Birdoswald to Haytongate</p><ol><li>03:16 - The character of the trail and the last visible elements of the Wall</li><li>05:44 - Honesty Boxes and the Haytongate Hut</li></ol><br/><p>06:56 - Lanercost Priory</p><ol><li>07:22 - A priory built of wallstone: the history of Lanercost</li><li>10:52 - Exploring Lanercost (and our encounter with Max)</li></ol><br/><p>12:24 - Haytongate to Carlisle</p><ol><li>12:46 - An unpleasant encounter with cows</li><li>14:37 - “Where’s the Wall,” or the perils of starting in the west</li><li>15:55 - Crosby on Eden, haggis, and black pudding</li><li>17:59 - The Wall at the River Eden: Uxelodunum and Milecastle 66</li></ol><br/><p>18:27 - Carlisle</p><ol><li>18:56 - Carlisle Castle: Luguvalium becomes the old Norman keep</li><li>21:31 - Richard III, Mary Queen of Scots, and the Jacobites: Carlisle Castle’s long history</li><li>24:52 - Another encounter with Max</li><li>27:00 - Carlisle Cathedral (and more plundered wallstone)</li><li>28:47 - Carlisle’s Guildhall</li><li>30:06 - Misadventures in Carlisle dining</li></ol><br/><p>31:46 - Carlisle to Bowness on Solway</p><ol><li>32:14 - Burgh by Sands: Aballava, Africans in Roman Britain, and Edward I’s unpleasant bout with dysentery</li><li>34:53 - The Tidal Flats: Dykesfield, Drumburgh, and the dangers of high tide!</li><li>37:45 - Bowness on Solway and a gathering at Fort Maia: Billy No-Mates and a man obsessed with cannibals!</li></ol><br/><p>43:02 - Logistics of the Hike</p><ol><li>43:07 - Where to begin? In the west at Bowness, or in the east at Newcastle?</li><li>45:38 - Resources for planning: books and maps</li><li>47:10 - Lodging, adventure companies, luggage, and the AD 122 bus</li><li>50:53 - Food: full English breakfasts and pub fare</li><li>53:16 - Tips for the trail: rain, sunburn, and blisters, oh my!</li></ol><br/><p>56:56 - Final Thoughts</p><p>58:02 - Wrap-up</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emily and Cam wrap up their series on hiking Hadrian’s Wall Path with a discussion of the final 31 miles of the Wall. Follow along as they explore medieval monuments made of wallstone, find themselves treed by some cows, and are regaled with tales of cannibals (human and otherwise!).</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ul><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></u></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p>Read the first post in our series of blog posts on Hadrian’s Wall here:</p><ul><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/hiking-hadrians-wallpart-i" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hiking Hadrian’s Wall, Part I</a></u></li></ul><br/><p>If you’re interested in hiking the Wall, you’ll find the following resources helpful:</p><ul><li><u><a href="https://www.cicerone.co.uk/hadrians-wall-path?srsltid=AfmBOooKaThgYe2HCCL1VjytbV5NQbDPJWfb8Nj3tAq-NF_Yl9KFU1De" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Walking Hadrian’s Wall Path, by Mark Richards (Cicerone Press)</a></u></li><li><u><a href="https://thetrailsshop.co.uk/products/hadrians-wall-path?_pos=1&amp;_sid=17da385f3&amp;_ss=r" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hadrian’s Wall Path, by Anthony Burton (National Trails Official Guidebook)</a></u></li><li><u><a href="https://www.harveymaps.co.uk/acatalog/Hadrian-s-Wall-Path-YHWRHA.html#SID=4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Harvey Maps, Map of Hadrian’s Wall Path</a></u></li></ul><br/><p>Finally, you’ll find the rest of the episodes in this series at the following links:</p><ul><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/hadrians-wall-part-i-the-romans-in-the-britain-and-the-imperial-frontier" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hadrian’s Wall, Part I: The Romans in Britain and the Imperial Frontier</a></u></li><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/hadrians-wall-part-ii-walking-from-wallsend-to-carrawburgh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hadrian’s Wall, Part II: Walking from Wallsend to Carrawburgh</a></u></li><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/hadrians-wall-part-iii-hiking-the-crags-sewingshields-to-birdoswald" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hadrian’s Wall, Part III: Hiking the Crags (Sewingshields to Birdoswald)</a></u></li></ul><br/><p></p><p>----------</p><p>00:11 - Introduction</p><ol><li>00:24 - Episode overview</li><li>01:11 - Housekeeping and Summer vacation</li></ol><br/><p>02:41 - Birdoswald to Haytongate</p><ol><li>03:16 - The character of the trail and the last visible elements of the Wall</li><li>05:44 - Honesty Boxes and the Haytongate Hut</li></ol><br/><p>06:56 - Lanercost Priory</p><ol><li>07:22 - A priory built of wallstone: the history of Lanercost</li><li>10:52 - Exploring Lanercost (and our encounter with Max)</li></ol><br/><p>12:24 - Haytongate to Carlisle</p><ol><li>12:46 - An unpleasant encounter with cows</li><li>14:37 - “Where’s the Wall,” or the perils of starting in the west</li><li>15:55 - Crosby on Eden, haggis, and black pudding</li><li>17:59 - The Wall at the River Eden: Uxelodunum and Milecastle 66</li></ol><br/><p>18:27 - Carlisle</p><ol><li>18:56 - Carlisle Castle: Luguvalium becomes the old Norman keep</li><li>21:31 - Richard III, Mary Queen of Scots, and the Jacobites: Carlisle Castle’s long history</li><li>24:52 - Another encounter with Max</li><li>27:00 - Carlisle Cathedral (and more plundered wallstone)</li><li>28:47 - Carlisle’s Guildhall</li><li>30:06 - Misadventures in Carlisle dining</li></ol><br/><p>31:46 - Carlisle to Bowness on Solway</p><ol><li>32:14 - Burgh by Sands: Aballava, Africans in Roman Britain, and Edward I’s unpleasant bout with dysentery</li><li>34:53 - The Tidal Flats: Dykesfield, Drumburgh, and the dangers of high tide!</li><li>37:45 - Bowness on Solway and a gathering at Fort Maia: Billy No-Mates and a man obsessed with cannibals!</li></ol><br/><p>43:02 - Logistics of the Hike</p><ol><li>43:07 - Where to begin? In the west at Bowness, or in the east at Newcastle?</li><li>45:38 - Resources for planning: books and maps</li><li>47:10 - Lodging, adventure companies, luggage, and the AD 122 bus</li><li>50:53 - Food: full English breakfasts and pub fare</li><li>53:16 - Tips for the trail: rain, sunburn, and blisters, oh my!</li></ol><br/><p>56:56 - Final Thoughts</p><p>58:02 - Wrap-up</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/hadrians-wall-part-iv-walking-from-birdoswald-to-bowness-on-solway]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">a1971876-8aff-4fc8-98f0-689b3305a5d6</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/66907900-ffc4-4d9f-9f86-78a5129b4ac2/Ep23-Cover.jpeg"/><pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2026 03:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/a1971876-8aff-4fc8-98f0-689b3305a5d6.mp3" length="57020498" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>59:24</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>23</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>23</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/bc3fd6e1-419e-4c1a-8a53-8edf49896bec/index.html" type="text/html"/><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-a11a68a7-440a-41fa-9676-46f752b32c46.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>Hadrian&apos;s Wall, Part III: Hiking the Crags (Sewingshields to Birdoswald)</title><itunes:title>Hadrian&apos;s Wall, Part III: Hiking the Crags (Sewingshields to Birdoswald)</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Fabulous vistas and amazing artifacts await eager hikers along the central section of Hadrian’s Wall Path. Listen as Emily and Cam chat about them all in this installment of their series on the Wall. Get ready for Roman Army re-enactors, the world’s oldest surviving document written by a woman, and the tree that stole the show from Kevin Costner and Morgan Freeman—but watch out for the cheesecake!</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p>Read the first post in our series of blog posts on Hadrian’s Wall here:</p><ul><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/hiking-hadrians-wallpart-i" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hiking Hadrian’s Wall, Part I</a></u></li></ul><br/><p>----------</p><p>00:11 - Introduction</p><p>01:19 - Dialects: Cumbrian and Geordie</p><ul><li>02:05 - What's a dialect, anyway?</li><li>02:26 - The Cumbrian Dialect</li><li>04:18 - The Geordie Dialect</li></ul><br/><p>05:30 - Sewingshields Crag</p><ul><li>06:38 - Views of the North Ditch</li><li>07:40 - Preserved lengths of Wall along the Great Whin Sill</li><li>09:31 - The summit of Sewingshields, gale warnings, and Joe the Dog</li></ul><br/><p>13:02 - Housesteads Roman Fort</p><ul><li>13:39 - History, layout, and garrison of Vercovicium</li><li>14:51 - Exploring Housesteads</li><li>16:52 - The Ermine Street Guard: a modern Roman Legion</li></ul><br/><p>19:51 - Hotbank and Highshields</p><ul><li>20:27 - The Clayton Wall</li><li>21:22 - Milecastle 37 and its impressive North Gate</li></ul><br/><p>22:51 - Sycamore Gap</p><ul><li>23:27 - The Sycamore that starred in Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves</li><li>25:07 - The senseless destruction of the tree (and some original Roman masonry)</li></ul><br/><p>26:33 - Twice Brewed and Vindolanda</p><ul><li>26:44 - The Twice Brewed Inn: beds and beer!</li><li>27:33 - Vindolanda and its history: the forts of the Stanegate</li><li>29:08 - Exploring Vindolanda (and practicing your Latin!)</li><li>29:57 - Vindolanda's anoxic soil and archaeological treasures</li><li>31:17 - The Vindolanda Tablets: Sulpicia Lepidina receives a birthday party invitation, and Maculus wants beer!</li></ul><br/><p>35:31 - Peel Crags to Walltown Crags</p><ul><li>36:51 - The Peel Crags and Castle Nick (or Milecastle 39)</li><li>38:10 - The literal high point of the trail: Windshields Crag</li><li>38:52 - Views of the Vallum</li><li>40:16 - An encounter with a real-life snooty professor</li><li>41:52 - The Carvoran Roman Army Museum, and some cool archaeology</li></ul><br/><p>45:26 - The Irthing River Valley</p><ul><li>46:18 - Thirwall Castle and plundered wallstone</li><li>47:01 - The Roman bridge at Willowford</li><li>47:41 - Milecastle 49 and the junction of the turf and stone Walls</li><li>48:24 - The walk to Birdoswald: Centurion Stones and Apotropaic Stones</li></ul><br/><p>49:20 - Birdoswald Roman Fort</p><ul><li>49:36 - The history of Banna and its residents</li><li>50:19 - Exploring Birdoswald and points nearby</li><li>51:26 - Cocidius: a “Romanized” Celtic war god</li><li>52:41 - Birdoswald's afterlife: warbands, reivers and Henry Norman</li><li>55:19 - A misadventure with English cheesecake</li></ul><br/><p>56:05 - Wrap-up</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fabulous vistas and amazing artifacts await eager hikers along the central section of Hadrian’s Wall Path. Listen as Emily and Cam chat about them all in this installment of their series on the Wall. Get ready for Roman Army re-enactors, the world’s oldest surviving document written by a woman, and the tree that stole the show from Kevin Costner and Morgan Freeman—but watch out for the cheesecake!</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p>Read the first post in our series of blog posts on Hadrian’s Wall here:</p><ul><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/hiking-hadrians-wallpart-i" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hiking Hadrian’s Wall, Part I</a></u></li></ul><br/><p>----------</p><p>00:11 - Introduction</p><p>01:19 - Dialects: Cumbrian and Geordie</p><ul><li>02:05 - What's a dialect, anyway?</li><li>02:26 - The Cumbrian Dialect</li><li>04:18 - The Geordie Dialect</li></ul><br/><p>05:30 - Sewingshields Crag</p><ul><li>06:38 - Views of the North Ditch</li><li>07:40 - Preserved lengths of Wall along the Great Whin Sill</li><li>09:31 - The summit of Sewingshields, gale warnings, and Joe the Dog</li></ul><br/><p>13:02 - Housesteads Roman Fort</p><ul><li>13:39 - History, layout, and garrison of Vercovicium</li><li>14:51 - Exploring Housesteads</li><li>16:52 - The Ermine Street Guard: a modern Roman Legion</li></ul><br/><p>19:51 - Hotbank and Highshields</p><ul><li>20:27 - The Clayton Wall</li><li>21:22 - Milecastle 37 and its impressive North Gate</li></ul><br/><p>22:51 - Sycamore Gap</p><ul><li>23:27 - The Sycamore that starred in Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves</li><li>25:07 - The senseless destruction of the tree (and some original Roman masonry)</li></ul><br/><p>26:33 - Twice Brewed and Vindolanda</p><ul><li>26:44 - The Twice Brewed Inn: beds and beer!</li><li>27:33 - Vindolanda and its history: the forts of the Stanegate</li><li>29:08 - Exploring Vindolanda (and practicing your Latin!)</li><li>29:57 - Vindolanda's anoxic soil and archaeological treasures</li><li>31:17 - The Vindolanda Tablets: Sulpicia Lepidina receives a birthday party invitation, and Maculus wants beer!</li></ul><br/><p>35:31 - Peel Crags to Walltown Crags</p><ul><li>36:51 - The Peel Crags and Castle Nick (or Milecastle 39)</li><li>38:10 - The literal high point of the trail: Windshields Crag</li><li>38:52 - Views of the Vallum</li><li>40:16 - An encounter with a real-life snooty professor</li><li>41:52 - The Carvoran Roman Army Museum, and some cool archaeology</li></ul><br/><p>45:26 - The Irthing River Valley</p><ul><li>46:18 - Thirwall Castle and plundered wallstone</li><li>47:01 - The Roman bridge at Willowford</li><li>47:41 - Milecastle 49 and the junction of the turf and stone Walls</li><li>48:24 - The walk to Birdoswald: Centurion Stones and Apotropaic Stones</li></ul><br/><p>49:20 - Birdoswald Roman Fort</p><ul><li>49:36 - The history of Banna and its residents</li><li>50:19 - Exploring Birdoswald and points nearby</li><li>51:26 - Cocidius: a “Romanized” Celtic war god</li><li>52:41 - Birdoswald's afterlife: warbands, reivers and Henry Norman</li><li>55:19 - A misadventure with English cheesecake</li></ul><br/><p>56:05 - Wrap-up</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/hadrians-wall-part-iii-hiking-the-crags-sewingshields-to-birdoswald]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">d4874762-050f-4d5e-a073-0ea67d232349</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/8389d5d4-c197-4631-9e1b-f6a4b8157840/Ep22Cover.jpeg"/><pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2026 03:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/d4874762-050f-4d5e-a073-0ea67d232349.mp3" length="54851290" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>57:08</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>22</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>22</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/6828f563-47ae-48eb-bf53-8a9b074950ff/index.html" type="text/html"/><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-6bc1bc37-3537-4237-a011-76df8b40dffc.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>Hadrian’s Wall, Part II: Walking from Wallsend to Carrawburgh</title><itunes:title>Hadrian’s Wall, Part II: Walking from Wallsend to Carrawburgh</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Curious to know what it’s like to walk the length of Hadrian’s Wall in northern England and experience the monument the way the ancient Romans did (on foot!)? Join Emily and Cam as they describe what there is to see and do along the first 38 miles of Hadrian’s Wall Path National Trail. You’ll hear about Roman soldiers from Mesopotamia, a Smell-o-Rama (yes, really!), the modern worship of the ancient god Mithras, and what Cam thinks about Real Ale (spoiler: he loves it!).</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p>Read the first post in our series of blog posts on Hadrian’s Wall here:</p><ul><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/hiking-hadrians-wallpart-i" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hiking Hadrian’s Wall, Part I</a></u></li></ul><br/><p>----------</p><p>00:10 - Introduction</p><p>00:44 - Hadrian’s Wall Path</p><ul><li>01:34 - Our experience on the Trail</li><li>02:12 - The history of the Trail and the English footpath system</li><li>03:32 - How we came to walk the Wall</li><li>05:00 - The three main sections of the Wall</li></ul><br/><p>06:20 - Arbeia (South Shields)</p><ul><li>06:49 - The fort and its garrison: the Tigris rivermen</li><li>10:43 - Some fun on the Newcastle Metro</li></ul><br/><p>11:53 - Wallsend and Segedunum</p><ul><li>12:02 - Latin everywhere!</li><li>12:44 - Exploring Segedunum Roman Fort</li><li>15:35 - The Wall Passport and Segedunum’s guest book</li></ul><br/><p>16:53 - Newcastle and Newburn</p><ul><li>16:59 - Tyneside and its industries</li><li>18:26 - The bridges of Newcastle</li><li>19:49 - Newburn: Keelman’s Lodge and Big Lamp Brewery</li><li>21:48 - Cam’s digression on Real Ale</li></ul><br/><p>22:58 - Heddon on the Wall</p><ul><li>23:19 - Blackberry season!</li><li>24:06 - The wall re-emerges</li><li>25:36 - Living with livestock along the Wall</li></ul><br/><p>27:19 - The Portgate and Dere Street</p><ul><li>28:25 - A digression on Sticky Toffee Pudding</li></ul><br/><p>29:50 - Corbridge and Corstopitum</p><ul><li>30:25 - A strategic junction: Dere Street, the Stanegate, the Tyne</li><li>31:50 - The Roman site and the museum</li><li>33:43 - Getting to Corbridge from the Wall</li><li>33:47 - Making friends along the trail</li></ul><br/><p>37:00 - Heavenfield</p><ul><li>37:13 - St. Oswald’s Way</li><li>37:39 - Bede and the Battle of Heavenfield</li></ul><br/><p>38:38 - Planetrees</p><ul><li>39:06 - The Broad Wall meets the Narrow Wall</li><li>39:45 - Why does the Narrow Wall exist?</li></ul><br/><p>40:55 - The North Tyne, Chollerford, Chesters</p><ul><li>41:22 - The Roman bridge across the North Tyne</li><li>42:26 - Chesters Fort: the site and its inhabitants</li><li>45:54 - Greencarts, the AD122 bus, and why doing the Trail in 2 days is a bad idea</li></ul><br/><p>48:15 - The Mithraeum at Carrawburgh</p><ul><li>49:34 - Mithras: the Romans reimagine an Iranian god</li><li>50:07 - Mithraism and other mystery cults</li><li>51:19 - The Mithraeum and its remains</li><li>52:14 - An encounter with a modern devotee of Mithras</li></ul><br/><p>54:55 - Wrap-up</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curious to know what it’s like to walk the length of Hadrian’s Wall in northern England and experience the monument the way the ancient Romans did (on foot!)? Join Emily and Cam as they describe what there is to see and do along the first 38 miles of Hadrian’s Wall Path National Trail. You’ll hear about Roman soldiers from Mesopotamia, a Smell-o-Rama (yes, really!), the modern worship of the ancient god Mithras, and what Cam thinks about Real Ale (spoiler: he loves it!).</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p>Read the first post in our series of blog posts on Hadrian’s Wall here:</p><ul><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/hiking-hadrians-wallpart-i" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hiking Hadrian’s Wall, Part I</a></u></li></ul><br/><p>----------</p><p>00:10 - Introduction</p><p>00:44 - Hadrian’s Wall Path</p><ul><li>01:34 - Our experience on the Trail</li><li>02:12 - The history of the Trail and the English footpath system</li><li>03:32 - How we came to walk the Wall</li><li>05:00 - The three main sections of the Wall</li></ul><br/><p>06:20 - Arbeia (South Shields)</p><ul><li>06:49 - The fort and its garrison: the Tigris rivermen</li><li>10:43 - Some fun on the Newcastle Metro</li></ul><br/><p>11:53 - Wallsend and Segedunum</p><ul><li>12:02 - Latin everywhere!</li><li>12:44 - Exploring Segedunum Roman Fort</li><li>15:35 - The Wall Passport and Segedunum’s guest book</li></ul><br/><p>16:53 - Newcastle and Newburn</p><ul><li>16:59 - Tyneside and its industries</li><li>18:26 - The bridges of Newcastle</li><li>19:49 - Newburn: Keelman’s Lodge and Big Lamp Brewery</li><li>21:48 - Cam’s digression on Real Ale</li></ul><br/><p>22:58 - Heddon on the Wall</p><ul><li>23:19 - Blackberry season!</li><li>24:06 - The wall re-emerges</li><li>25:36 - Living with livestock along the Wall</li></ul><br/><p>27:19 - The Portgate and Dere Street</p><ul><li>28:25 - A digression on Sticky Toffee Pudding</li></ul><br/><p>29:50 - Corbridge and Corstopitum</p><ul><li>30:25 - A strategic junction: Dere Street, the Stanegate, the Tyne</li><li>31:50 - The Roman site and the museum</li><li>33:43 - Getting to Corbridge from the Wall</li><li>33:47 - Making friends along the trail</li></ul><br/><p>37:00 - Heavenfield</p><ul><li>37:13 - St. Oswald’s Way</li><li>37:39 - Bede and the Battle of Heavenfield</li></ul><br/><p>38:38 - Planetrees</p><ul><li>39:06 - The Broad Wall meets the Narrow Wall</li><li>39:45 - Why does the Narrow Wall exist?</li></ul><br/><p>40:55 - The North Tyne, Chollerford, Chesters</p><ul><li>41:22 - The Roman bridge across the North Tyne</li><li>42:26 - Chesters Fort: the site and its inhabitants</li><li>45:54 - Greencarts, the AD122 bus, and why doing the Trail in 2 days is a bad idea</li></ul><br/><p>48:15 - The Mithraeum at Carrawburgh</p><ul><li>49:34 - Mithras: the Romans reimagine an Iranian god</li><li>50:07 - Mithraism and other mystery cults</li><li>51:19 - The Mithraeum and its remains</li><li>52:14 - An encounter with a modern devotee of Mithras</li></ul><br/><p>54:55 - Wrap-up</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/hadrians-wall-part-ii-walking-from-wallsend-to-carrawburgh]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">22c82969-51b1-4ad9-b5db-33a79c056a62</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/5daa32f8-5996-428d-9428-9425edb9a745/Ep21-cover.jpeg"/><pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2026 03:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/22c82969-51b1-4ad9-b5db-33a79c056a62.mp3" length="53898343" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>56:09</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>21</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>21</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/8753de5f-44da-42c5-8258-c40f453a31a4/index.html" type="text/html"/><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-9611972f-8c07-49d0-8894-0c35285c6d8a.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>Hadrian’s Wall, Part I: The Romans in Britain and the Imperial Frontier</title><itunes:title>Hadrian’s Wall, Part I: The Romans in Britain and the Imperial Frontier</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Join Emily and Cam as they discuss the Romans in Britain from the time of Caesar to the emperor Hadrian, and then talk about Hadrian’s monumental wall—what it was, how it was built, what it was for, and why some bits of it still survive today.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ul><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></u></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p>Read the first post in our series of blog posts on Hadrian’s Wall here:</p><ul><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/hiking-hadrians-wallpart-i" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hiking Hadrian’s Wall, Part I</a></u></li></ul><br/><p>Links:</p><ul><li>David Keys, <u><a href="https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/roman-invasion-beach-found-in-kent-949717.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“Roman Invasion Beach Found in Kent”</a></u>, The Independent (Friday October 3, 2008).</li></ul><br/><p>----------</p><p>00:11 - Introduction</p><p>01:58 - The Romans in Britain, from Caesar to Hadrian</p><ol><li>02:22 - Caesar’s campaigns in Gaul and Britain, and their aftermath</li><li>03:35 - Claudius “defeats” Caratacus and conquers southern England</li><li>13:37 - Boudicca’s Rebellion</li><li>18:54 - Vespasian and the governorship of Agricola</li><li>22:05 - Hadrian visits the frontier</li></ol><br/><p>23:31 - Building Hadrian’s Wall</p><ol><li>23:25 - The route: from Segedunum to Maia</li><li>25:41 - The wall and its features: stone, turf, milecastles, turrets, and outworks</li><li>28:57 - Why build part in stone and part in turf?</li><li>29:28 - The legions and the process of building the wall</li><li>32:25 - Changing plans: wall gauges, wall forts, and turf replaced by stone</li></ol><br/><p>37:56 - The Purpose of Hadrian’s Wall</p><ol><li>38:25 - Some puzzling features of Rome’s northern frontier</li><li>39:07 - A zone of transition: the Roman Empire and British social structures</li><li>44:22 - The Romans, the Wall, and the transformation of Britain</li></ol><br/><p>46:24 - The Wall after Hadrian</p><ol><li>46:42 - The Wall from Antoninus Pius to Septimius Severus</li><li>49:04 - The Wall in the time of Bede</li><li>51:17 - The 17th and 18th centuries: Hadrian’s Wall and the Military Road</li><li>53:19 - John Clayton</li><li>54:39 - The National Trust and UNESCO</li></ol><br/><p>55:20 - Wrap-up</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Join Emily and Cam as they discuss the Romans in Britain from the time of Caesar to the emperor Hadrian, and then talk about Hadrian’s monumental wall—what it was, how it was built, what it was for, and why some bits of it still survive today.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ul><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></u></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p>Read the first post in our series of blog posts on Hadrian’s Wall here:</p><ul><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/hiking-hadrians-wallpart-i" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hiking Hadrian’s Wall, Part I</a></u></li></ul><br/><p>Links:</p><ul><li>David Keys, <u><a href="https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/roman-invasion-beach-found-in-kent-949717.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“Roman Invasion Beach Found in Kent”</a></u>, The Independent (Friday October 3, 2008).</li></ul><br/><p>----------</p><p>00:11 - Introduction</p><p>01:58 - The Romans in Britain, from Caesar to Hadrian</p><ol><li>02:22 - Caesar’s campaigns in Gaul and Britain, and their aftermath</li><li>03:35 - Claudius “defeats” Caratacus and conquers southern England</li><li>13:37 - Boudicca’s Rebellion</li><li>18:54 - Vespasian and the governorship of Agricola</li><li>22:05 - Hadrian visits the frontier</li></ol><br/><p>23:31 - Building Hadrian’s Wall</p><ol><li>23:25 - The route: from Segedunum to Maia</li><li>25:41 - The wall and its features: stone, turf, milecastles, turrets, and outworks</li><li>28:57 - Why build part in stone and part in turf?</li><li>29:28 - The legions and the process of building the wall</li><li>32:25 - Changing plans: wall gauges, wall forts, and turf replaced by stone</li></ol><br/><p>37:56 - The Purpose of Hadrian’s Wall</p><ol><li>38:25 - Some puzzling features of Rome’s northern frontier</li><li>39:07 - A zone of transition: the Roman Empire and British social structures</li><li>44:22 - The Romans, the Wall, and the transformation of Britain</li></ol><br/><p>46:24 - The Wall after Hadrian</p><ol><li>46:42 - The Wall from Antoninus Pius to Septimius Severus</li><li>49:04 - The Wall in the time of Bede</li><li>51:17 - The 17th and 18th centuries: Hadrian’s Wall and the Military Road</li><li>53:19 - John Clayton</li><li>54:39 - The National Trust and UNESCO</li></ol><br/><p>55:20 - Wrap-up</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/hadrians-wall-part-i-the-romans-in-the-britain-and-the-imperial-frontier]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">a221bd89-3118-47e3-b160-f49b1282a0cf</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/32e88bb7-a035-4952-a252-f2590ea346e8/20cover.jpeg"/><pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2026 03:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/a221bd89-3118-47e3-b160-f49b1282a0cf.mp3" length="54083499" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>56:20</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>20</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>20</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/ba054c27-d988-47cf-b2fc-92e81527b4ea/index.html" type="text/html"/><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-e54d7931-f76c-429d-af5c-e6389c7c0c66.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>Monty Python’s Life of Brian: The Greatest Movie about Ancient Rome?</title><itunes:title>Monty Python’s Life of Brian: The Greatest Movie about Ancient Rome?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Emily and Cam chat about whether Monty Python's Life of Brian is truly the greatest movie about ancient Rome (as Cam claimed in the last episode). They also explore what "truths" the movie might expose about life under Roman occupation, and contemplate the Pythons’ love for Aristophanes.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p>Cover photo adapted from an <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Romanes_eunt_domus.svg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">image by Grufo (Wikimedia Commons)</a>.</p><p></p><p>----------</p><p>00:11 - Introduction</p><p>01:54 - Monty Python: A Primer</p><ul><li>02:25 - Five Brits and an American: Monty Python comes together (probably at a bar)</li><li>04:00 - The Pythons venture into feature-length films</li></ul><br/><p>06:56 - Production, Release, Reception</p><ul><li>06:58 - On location in Tunisia</li><li>08:00 - The man they call Brian: the basic plot of the movie</li><li>09:52 - George Harrison to the rescue!</li><li>11:13 - Brian banned!</li><li>12:08 - The peculiar case of Aberystwyth, Wales</li></ul><br/><p>13:38 - Some cringey bits: viewer beware!</p><ul><li>13:53 - Blackface and ethnic slurs</li><li>15:20 - Stan / Loretta: mildly transphobic, or surprisingly progressive?</li><li>16:56 - Some ableist-seeming jokes</li></ul><br/><p>19:02 - The Pythons do history hilariously</p><ul><li>20:45 - Women and agency</li><li>22:59 - Businesspeople and professional pride</li><li>24:36 - Gladiator games, Python-style</li><li>28:10 - British and Roman imperialism, or what have the Romans ever done for us?</li><li>32:54 - Ridiculous resistance groups (Splitters!)</li><li>37:33 - Everyday acts of genuine resistance</li><li>41:21 - Prophets, saviors, and messiahs—in Roman Judea and elsewhere</li></ul><br/><p>45:08 - The Pythons as PhDs of Comedy</p><ul><li>45:42 - Learned spoofs of literature and film: The Iliad and Spartacus</li><li>48:15 - Silly costumes, silly names, silly plots: the Pythons pay homage to Plautus and Aristophanes</li><li>54:39 - Romanes eunt domus!</li><li>56:55 - The art of nudity: the Pythons spoof Zeffirelli</li></ul><br/><p>59:14 - Wrap-up</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emily and Cam chat about whether Monty Python's Life of Brian is truly the greatest movie about ancient Rome (as Cam claimed in the last episode). They also explore what "truths" the movie might expose about life under Roman occupation, and contemplate the Pythons’ love for Aristophanes.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p>Cover photo adapted from an <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Romanes_eunt_domus.svg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">image by Grufo (Wikimedia Commons)</a>.</p><p></p><p>----------</p><p>00:11 - Introduction</p><p>01:54 - Monty Python: A Primer</p><ul><li>02:25 - Five Brits and an American: Monty Python comes together (probably at a bar)</li><li>04:00 - The Pythons venture into feature-length films</li></ul><br/><p>06:56 - Production, Release, Reception</p><ul><li>06:58 - On location in Tunisia</li><li>08:00 - The man they call Brian: the basic plot of the movie</li><li>09:52 - George Harrison to the rescue!</li><li>11:13 - Brian banned!</li><li>12:08 - The peculiar case of Aberystwyth, Wales</li></ul><br/><p>13:38 - Some cringey bits: viewer beware!</p><ul><li>13:53 - Blackface and ethnic slurs</li><li>15:20 - Stan / Loretta: mildly transphobic, or surprisingly progressive?</li><li>16:56 - Some ableist-seeming jokes</li></ul><br/><p>19:02 - The Pythons do history hilariously</p><ul><li>20:45 - Women and agency</li><li>22:59 - Businesspeople and professional pride</li><li>24:36 - Gladiator games, Python-style</li><li>28:10 - British and Roman imperialism, or what have the Romans ever done for us?</li><li>32:54 - Ridiculous resistance groups (Splitters!)</li><li>37:33 - Everyday acts of genuine resistance</li><li>41:21 - Prophets, saviors, and messiahs—in Roman Judea and elsewhere</li></ul><br/><p>45:08 - The Pythons as PhDs of Comedy</p><ul><li>45:42 - Learned spoofs of literature and film: The Iliad and Spartacus</li><li>48:15 - Silly costumes, silly names, silly plots: the Pythons pay homage to Plautus and Aristophanes</li><li>54:39 - Romanes eunt domus!</li><li>56:55 - The art of nudity: the Pythons spoof Zeffirelli</li></ul><br/><p>59:14 - Wrap-up</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://havetogawilltravel.com/episode/monty-pythons-life-of-brian-the-greatest-movie-about-ancient-rome]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">79c093d7-9461-4cdb-bad6-e17583a214b0</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/7f89bff0-f425-4a6a-8a0e-f9c38db3c39f/Ep19-cover.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2026 03:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/79c093d7-9461-4cdb-bad6-e17583a214b0.mp3" length="58122239" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:00:33</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>19</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>19</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/665c0bfd-9f9d-45cd-bcf6-3f81dbc495ff/index.html" type="text/html"/><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-7b2c814e-0439-438c-b365-814fb17ca5b6.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>The Persians and the Greeks, Part IV: Salamis, Plataea, and Everything After</title><itunes:title>The Persians and the Greeks, Part IV: Salamis, Plataea, and Everything After</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In the final installment of a four-part series on the Greeks and the Persians, Emily and Cam discuss both the Battle of Salamis and the Battle of Plataea, and finish off with some remarks about the Serpent Column—a living monument to the accomplishment of the Greeks.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p>Links</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/the-serpent-column-in-the-heart-of-the-city" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Blog Post on the Serpent Column</a>.</li><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/the-persians-and-the-greeks-part-i-the-rise-of-the-persian-empire" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The first episode in this series</a> (The Persians and the Greeks, Part I: The Rise of the Persian Empire).</li><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/the-persians-and-the-greeks-part-ii-darius-great-king-king-of-kings" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The second episode in this series</a> (The Persians and the Greeks, Part II: Darius, Great King, King of Kings).</li><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/the-persians-and-the-greeks-part-iii-xerxes-and-the-road-to-thermopylae" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The third episode in this series</a> (The Persians and the Greeks, Part III: Xerxes and the Road to Thermopylae).</li></ul><br/><p>----------</p><p>00:12 - Introduction</p><p>00:58 - Xerxes on the Acropolis</p><ul><li>01:18 - The aftermath of Thermopylae and Artemision: Xerxes in Central Greece</li><li>04:22 - The Athenians face a dilemma</li><li>07:03 - The Pythia, the wall of wood, and the evacuation of Athens</li><li>12:46 - The Persians in Athens</li></ul><br/><p>14:52 - Blessed Salamis</p><ul><li>15:26 - Dissension among the Greeks</li><li>19:21 - Xerxes, his commanders, and Artemisia the wise advisor</li><li>24:29 - Themistokles’ Gambit</li><li>32:21 - The Battle of Salamis</li><li>36:17 - Xerxes puts Mardonius in charge and heads for home</li></ul><br/><p>39:15 - The Campaign and Battle of Plataea</p><ul><li>39:19 - Mardonius, Alexander, and an offer to the Athenians</li><li>41:11 - Spring 479: Mardonius’ capture of Athens, and its aftermath</li><li>43:23 - All roads lead to Plataea</li><li>48:21 - The Battle of Plataea</li></ul><br/><p>56:09 - Epilogue: the Serpent Column, from Delphi to Istanbul</p><p>61:07 - Wrap-up</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the final installment of a four-part series on the Greeks and the Persians, Emily and Cam discuss both the Battle of Salamis and the Battle of Plataea, and finish off with some remarks about the Serpent Column—a living monument to the accomplishment of the Greeks.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p>Links</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/the-serpent-column-in-the-heart-of-the-city" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Blog Post on the Serpent Column</a>.</li><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/the-persians-and-the-greeks-part-i-the-rise-of-the-persian-empire" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The first episode in this series</a> (The Persians and the Greeks, Part I: The Rise of the Persian Empire).</li><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/the-persians-and-the-greeks-part-ii-darius-great-king-king-of-kings" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The second episode in this series</a> (The Persians and the Greeks, Part II: Darius, Great King, King of Kings).</li><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/the-persians-and-the-greeks-part-iii-xerxes-and-the-road-to-thermopylae" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The third episode in this series</a> (The Persians and the Greeks, Part III: Xerxes and the Road to Thermopylae).</li></ul><br/><p>----------</p><p>00:12 - Introduction</p><p>00:58 - Xerxes on the Acropolis</p><ul><li>01:18 - The aftermath of Thermopylae and Artemision: Xerxes in Central Greece</li><li>04:22 - The Athenians face a dilemma</li><li>07:03 - The Pythia, the wall of wood, and the evacuation of Athens</li><li>12:46 - The Persians in Athens</li></ul><br/><p>14:52 - Blessed Salamis</p><ul><li>15:26 - Dissension among the Greeks</li><li>19:21 - Xerxes, his commanders, and Artemisia the wise advisor</li><li>24:29 - Themistokles’ Gambit</li><li>32:21 - The Battle of Salamis</li><li>36:17 - Xerxes puts Mardonius in charge and heads for home</li></ul><br/><p>39:15 - The Campaign and Battle of Plataea</p><ul><li>39:19 - Mardonius, Alexander, and an offer to the Athenians</li><li>41:11 - Spring 479: Mardonius’ capture of Athens, and its aftermath</li><li>43:23 - All roads lead to Plataea</li><li>48:21 - The Battle of Plataea</li></ul><br/><p>56:09 - Epilogue: the Serpent Column, from Delphi to Istanbul</p><p>61:07 - Wrap-up</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/the-persians-and-the-greeks-part-iv-salamis-plataea-and-everything-after]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">0f4e1208-b699-446f-b61e-ae89aac544ff</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/5a8e816e-b29f-48d0-818b-420150831366/IMG-0199.jpeg"/><pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2026 03:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/0f4e1208-b699-446f-b61e-ae89aac544ff.mp3" length="59104861" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:01:34</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>18</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>18</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/13716121-1d1d-478c-ac38-63d5fecdfc3f/index.html" type="text/html"/><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-29b24033-d0a8-4c91-ad85-9e49c23535c3.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>The Persians and the Greeks, Part III: Xerxes and the Road to Thermopylae</title><itunes:title>The Persians and the Greeks, Part III: Xerxes and the Road to Thermopylae</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Emily and Cam dive into Xerxes’ decision to invade Greece, and tell the story of his expedition as far as the Battle of Thermopylae. (Featuring a very brief digression on "300".)</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p>Links</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/the-persians-and-the-greeks-part-i-the-rise-of-the-persian-empire" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The first episode in this series</a> (The Persians and the Greeks, Part I: The Rise of the Persian Empire).</li><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/the-persians-and-the-greeks-part-ii-darius-great-king-king-of-kings" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The second episode in this series</a> (The Persians and the Greeks, Part II: Darius, Great King, King of Kings).</li><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/aeschylus-persians-the-og-greek-tragedy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our episode on Aeschylus’ Persians</a> (Aeschylus’ “Persians”: The OG Greek Tragedy).</li><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/holding-out-for-a-hero-in-ancient-greece" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our episode on heroes in the ancient Greek world</a> (Holding Out for a Hero—in Ancient Greece).</li></ul><br/><p>----------</p><p>00:12 - Introduction</p><p>01:18 - The Last Years of Darius</p><p>02:38 - Xerxes, King</p><ul><li>02:59 - Xerxes and the Many Sons of Darius</li><li>04:57 - Xerxes Quells Rebellions in Egypt and Babylon</li></ul><br/><p>05:39 - Xerxes’ Project: The Invasion of Greece</p><ul><li>06:08 - Herodotus’ Understanding of Xerxes’ Motivations</li><li>08:47 - A Persian Perspective?</li></ul><br/><p>10:31 - Planning Xerxes’ Campaign</p><ul><li>11:00 - The Mt Athos Canal and Supply Depots in the Northern Aegean</li><li>12:39 - Ships and Cables</li><li>14:07 - Mustering the Army</li></ul><br/><p>14:28 - Xerxes Travels from Susa to Sardis</p><ul><li>16:59 - Early Greek Responses to Xerxes’ Plans</li><li>17:15 - Initial Rumors</li><li>18:02 - Xerxes Demands Earth and Water</li><li>20:00 - The Range of Greek Responses: Submission, Accommodation, Resistance</li><li>25:35 - Greek Spies in Sardis</li><li>26:04 - Strategy and the Problems of Interstate Rivalries</li></ul><br/><p>27:28 - The Coming Storm</p><ul><li>27:54 - Xerxes Crosses the Hellespont: the Pontoon Bridges</li><li>29:51 - Xerxes Counts his Forces (and why we should doubt Herodotus’ numbers)</li><li>34:27 - The March to Therma and the Kingdom of Macedonia</li><li>37:14 - The Greeks at Tempe and the Submission of the North</li></ul><br/><p>39:46 - Thermopylae and Artemision: Greek Plans and Preparations</p><ul><li>40:10 - The Geography of Thermopylae and Artemision (with a digression on “300”)</li><li>43:04 - The Greek Forces</li></ul><br/><p>48:33 - Thermopylae and Artemision: The Battles</p><ul><li>48:58 - Spartan Hairstyles and Xerxes’ Frustrations</li><li>51:56 - The First Day of Fighting: Stalemate</li><li>43:30 - The Second Day of Fighting: Xerxes, Ephialtes, and the March of the Immortals</li><li>57:23 - The Third Day of Fighting: The Last Stand</li></ul><br/><p>65:12 - Wrap-up</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emily and Cam dive into Xerxes’ decision to invade Greece, and tell the story of his expedition as far as the Battle of Thermopylae. (Featuring a very brief digression on "300".)</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p>Links</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/the-persians-and-the-greeks-part-i-the-rise-of-the-persian-empire" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The first episode in this series</a> (The Persians and the Greeks, Part I: The Rise of the Persian Empire).</li><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/the-persians-and-the-greeks-part-ii-darius-great-king-king-of-kings" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The second episode in this series</a> (The Persians and the Greeks, Part II: Darius, Great King, King of Kings).</li><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/aeschylus-persians-the-og-greek-tragedy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our episode on Aeschylus’ Persians</a> (Aeschylus’ “Persians”: The OG Greek Tragedy).</li><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/holding-out-for-a-hero-in-ancient-greece" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our episode on heroes in the ancient Greek world</a> (Holding Out for a Hero—in Ancient Greece).</li></ul><br/><p>----------</p><p>00:12 - Introduction</p><p>01:18 - The Last Years of Darius</p><p>02:38 - Xerxes, King</p><ul><li>02:59 - Xerxes and the Many Sons of Darius</li><li>04:57 - Xerxes Quells Rebellions in Egypt and Babylon</li></ul><br/><p>05:39 - Xerxes’ Project: The Invasion of Greece</p><ul><li>06:08 - Herodotus’ Understanding of Xerxes’ Motivations</li><li>08:47 - A Persian Perspective?</li></ul><br/><p>10:31 - Planning Xerxes’ Campaign</p><ul><li>11:00 - The Mt Athos Canal and Supply Depots in the Northern Aegean</li><li>12:39 - Ships and Cables</li><li>14:07 - Mustering the Army</li></ul><br/><p>14:28 - Xerxes Travels from Susa to Sardis</p><ul><li>16:59 - Early Greek Responses to Xerxes’ Plans</li><li>17:15 - Initial Rumors</li><li>18:02 - Xerxes Demands Earth and Water</li><li>20:00 - The Range of Greek Responses: Submission, Accommodation, Resistance</li><li>25:35 - Greek Spies in Sardis</li><li>26:04 - Strategy and the Problems of Interstate Rivalries</li></ul><br/><p>27:28 - The Coming Storm</p><ul><li>27:54 - Xerxes Crosses the Hellespont: the Pontoon Bridges</li><li>29:51 - Xerxes Counts his Forces (and why we should doubt Herodotus’ numbers)</li><li>34:27 - The March to Therma and the Kingdom of Macedonia</li><li>37:14 - The Greeks at Tempe and the Submission of the North</li></ul><br/><p>39:46 - Thermopylae and Artemision: Greek Plans and Preparations</p><ul><li>40:10 - The Geography of Thermopylae and Artemision (with a digression on “300”)</li><li>43:04 - The Greek Forces</li></ul><br/><p>48:33 - Thermopylae and Artemision: The Battles</p><ul><li>48:58 - Spartan Hairstyles and Xerxes’ Frustrations</li><li>51:56 - The First Day of Fighting: Stalemate</li><li>43:30 - The Second Day of Fighting: Xerxes, Ephialtes, and the March of the Immortals</li><li>57:23 - The Third Day of Fighting: The Last Stand</li></ul><br/><p>65:12 - Wrap-up</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/the-persians-and-the-greeks-part-iii-xerxes-and-the-road-to-thermopylae]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">3ce37609-1014-445c-9da8-1828469ab53d</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/605c1008-a3c2-4ea5-81bb-f2fdc20b4696/Square-Raw-adjusted.jpeg"/><pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2026 03:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/3ce37609-1014-445c-9da8-1828469ab53d.mp3" length="64300929" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:06:59</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>17</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>17</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/a8c60de2-4917-4973-b139-27e209975f80/index.html" type="text/html"/><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-be7bd932-cffe-4edc-a4ba-2a1f43428918.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>The Persians and the Greeks, Part II: Darius, Great King, King of Kings</title><itunes:title>The Persians and the Greeks, Part II: Darius, Great King, King of Kings</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Emily and Cam continue their discussion of the conflict between the Persians and the ancient Greek world. In this episode, they chat about Cyrus’ son Cambyses, about the rise to power of Darius, and about Darius’ relationships with Greeks on the western frontier of his empire.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ul><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></u></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p>Episode Links</p><ul><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/the-persians-and-the-greeks-part-i-the-rise-of-the-persian-empire" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The first episode in this series</a></u> (The Persians and the Greeks, Part I: The Rise of the Persian Empire).</li><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/the-athens-marathon-part-i" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Part I of our series on the Athens Marathon</a></u>, which includes a discussion of the Battle of Marathon and the legend of Pheidippides.</li><li><u><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behistun_Inscription" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wikipedia’s article on Darius’ Bisitun Inscription</a></u>, which includes photos.</li></ul><br/><p>Image credits:</p><ul><li>Cover / instagram image adapted from <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Behistun_Darius_the_Great.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a photo by Lee van Dorp</a> (Wikimedia Commons), which shows a closeup of Darius as he is depicted on the Bisitun Inscription.</li><li>Social sharing image adapted from <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:کتیبه_داریوش_(_بیستون(.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a photo by Korosh091</a> (Wikimedia Commons), which shows the Bisitun Inscription's main relief.</li></ul><br/><p>----------</p><p>00:13 - Introduction</p><p>01:31 - Sources for the reigns of Cambyses and Darius</p><ul><li>01:49 - Herodotus’ Persian stories</li><li>02:41 - Inscriptions and papyri documenting Persian kings</li></ul><br/><p>03:01 - Cambyses, son of Cyrus: portraits of his Reign</p><ul><li>03:27 - Herodotus’ take on Cambyses: a mad and murderous king</li><li>11:59 - A more sympathetic take: the Apis inscriptions, the Udjahorresnet inscription, and what they tell us about Cambyses</li></ul><br/><p>16:35 - The Death of Cambyses and the rise of Darius</p><ul><li>17:01 - Herodotus’ tale of the usurper Smerdis and the (Persian) Magnificent Seven</li><li>21:06 - Darius’ Bisitun Inscription and the “Official” story of his rise to power</li></ul><br/><p>28:02 - Darius and the Greeks</p><ul><li>28:41 - Darius’ Scythian Expedition and the Greeks of Ionia and Aeolia</li><li>32:01 - The Ionian Revolt and its causes: Aristagoras and Naxos, plus the problem of tyranny, tribute, and triremes</li><li>39:39 - The Athenians and the sack of Sardis</li><li>43:00 - The Marathon Campaign: Darius seeks revenge</li></ul><br/><p>44:58 - Wrap-up</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emily and Cam continue their discussion of the conflict between the Persians and the ancient Greek world. In this episode, they chat about Cyrus’ son Cambyses, about the rise to power of Darius, and about Darius’ relationships with Greeks on the western frontier of his empire.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ul><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></u></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p>Episode Links</p><ul><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/the-persians-and-the-greeks-part-i-the-rise-of-the-persian-empire" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The first episode in this series</a></u> (The Persians and the Greeks, Part I: The Rise of the Persian Empire).</li><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/the-athens-marathon-part-i" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Part I of our series on the Athens Marathon</a></u>, which includes a discussion of the Battle of Marathon and the legend of Pheidippides.</li><li><u><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behistun_Inscription" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wikipedia’s article on Darius’ Bisitun Inscription</a></u>, which includes photos.</li></ul><br/><p>Image credits:</p><ul><li>Cover / instagram image adapted from <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Behistun_Darius_the_Great.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a photo by Lee van Dorp</a> (Wikimedia Commons), which shows a closeup of Darius as he is depicted on the Bisitun Inscription.</li><li>Social sharing image adapted from <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:کتیبه_داریوش_(_بیستون(.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a photo by Korosh091</a> (Wikimedia Commons), which shows the Bisitun Inscription's main relief.</li></ul><br/><p>----------</p><p>00:13 - Introduction</p><p>01:31 - Sources for the reigns of Cambyses and Darius</p><ul><li>01:49 - Herodotus’ Persian stories</li><li>02:41 - Inscriptions and papyri documenting Persian kings</li></ul><br/><p>03:01 - Cambyses, son of Cyrus: portraits of his Reign</p><ul><li>03:27 - Herodotus’ take on Cambyses: a mad and murderous king</li><li>11:59 - A more sympathetic take: the Apis inscriptions, the Udjahorresnet inscription, and what they tell us about Cambyses</li></ul><br/><p>16:35 - The Death of Cambyses and the rise of Darius</p><ul><li>17:01 - Herodotus’ tale of the usurper Smerdis and the (Persian) Magnificent Seven</li><li>21:06 - Darius’ Bisitun Inscription and the “Official” story of his rise to power</li></ul><br/><p>28:02 - Darius and the Greeks</p><ul><li>28:41 - Darius’ Scythian Expedition and the Greeks of Ionia and Aeolia</li><li>32:01 - The Ionian Revolt and its causes: Aristagoras and Naxos, plus the problem of tyranny, tribute, and triremes</li><li>39:39 - The Athenians and the sack of Sardis</li><li>43:00 - The Marathon Campaign: Darius seeks revenge</li></ul><br/><p>44:58 - Wrap-up</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/the-persians-and-the-greeks-part-ii-darius-great-king-king-of-kings]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">40af33d8-bdac-49bb-9e55-dc2e8eb459ff</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/4c031bcf-36ce-4bd3-9492-16cf91501cb4/Episode-Cover.jpeg"/><pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2026 03:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/40af33d8-bdac-49bb-9e55-dc2e8eb459ff.mp3" length="44210467" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>46:03</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>16</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>16</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/aa46abb4-6f02-4b13-9f91-021b2fab6e6f/index.html" type="text/html"/><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-f3f60aea-3bde-473d-8b78-1733ebf0c50e.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>The Persians and the Greeks, Part I: The Rise of the Persian Empire</title><itunes:title>The Persians and the Greeks, Part I: The Rise of the Persian Empire</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Emily and Cam talk about the ancient Persians and the growth of their empire in the first episode of a series on the conflict between the Persians and the ancient Greek world.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ul><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></u></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p>Cover photo adapted from an image by <u><a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Berlin_-_Pergamon_Museum_-_Persian_warriors_-_20150523_6849.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jakub Hałun</a></u> (Persian Warriors, Pergamon University, Berlin)</p><p></p><p>----------</p><p>00:12 - Introduction</p><p>01:07 - Who were the Persians?</p><ul><li>01:11 - The ancient Persians, the ancient Iranians, and the Indo-European dispersion</li><li>02:52 - The Old Persian language (and a digression on Persian names)</li><li>08:35 - Zoroastrianism and the religion of the ancient Persians</li></ul><br/><p>13:59 - The Rise of the Persian Empire</p><ul><li>14:23 - The Middle East in the 6th Century BCE: Persia and its neighbors</li><li>16:29 - Herodotus and the legend of Cyrus the Great</li><li>20:06 - Cyrus the Great and his conquests</li><li>24:04 - Cyrus’ successors: Cambyses and Darius</li><li>24:48 - The Persian Empire in 500 BCE</li></ul><br/><p>25:12 - The Structure of the Persian Empire</p><ul><li>25:25 - Cooperative local elites and the obligations of empire</li><li>26:35 - Satraps, provinces, and the Iranian diaspora</li></ul><br/><p>28:45 - The Ideology of the Persian Empire</p><ul><li>29:04 - Cyrus as champion of local gods in Babylon and Judah</li><li>30:49 - Darius as champion of Ahura Mazda</li></ul><br/><p>32:47 - The Mechanics of Empire in the Age of Darius</p><ul><li>32:52 - Imperial ideology and imperial violence</li><li>34:00 - Local elites and imperial entanglements: the story of Syloson of Samos</li></ul><br/><p>38:04 - Wrap-up</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emily and Cam talk about the ancient Persians and the growth of their empire in the first episode of a series on the conflict between the Persians and the ancient Greek world.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ul><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></u></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p>Cover photo adapted from an image by <u><a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Berlin_-_Pergamon_Museum_-_Persian_warriors_-_20150523_6849.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jakub Hałun</a></u> (Persian Warriors, Pergamon University, Berlin)</p><p></p><p>----------</p><p>00:12 - Introduction</p><p>01:07 - Who were the Persians?</p><ul><li>01:11 - The ancient Persians, the ancient Iranians, and the Indo-European dispersion</li><li>02:52 - The Old Persian language (and a digression on Persian names)</li><li>08:35 - Zoroastrianism and the religion of the ancient Persians</li></ul><br/><p>13:59 - The Rise of the Persian Empire</p><ul><li>14:23 - The Middle East in the 6th Century BCE: Persia and its neighbors</li><li>16:29 - Herodotus and the legend of Cyrus the Great</li><li>20:06 - Cyrus the Great and his conquests</li><li>24:04 - Cyrus’ successors: Cambyses and Darius</li><li>24:48 - The Persian Empire in 500 BCE</li></ul><br/><p>25:12 - The Structure of the Persian Empire</p><ul><li>25:25 - Cooperative local elites and the obligations of empire</li><li>26:35 - Satraps, provinces, and the Iranian diaspora</li></ul><br/><p>28:45 - The Ideology of the Persian Empire</p><ul><li>29:04 - Cyrus as champion of local gods in Babylon and Judah</li><li>30:49 - Darius as champion of Ahura Mazda</li></ul><br/><p>32:47 - The Mechanics of Empire in the Age of Darius</p><ul><li>32:52 - Imperial ideology and imperial violence</li><li>34:00 - Local elites and imperial entanglements: the story of Syloson of Samos</li></ul><br/><p>38:04 - Wrap-up</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://havetogawilltravel.com/episode/the-persians-and-the-greeks-part-i-the-rise-of-the-persian-empire]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">3527af20-3538-4a5b-a89f-4d21d6fa2226</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/62d3c90e-94c1-4465-a52f-40dd3efb7055/Ep15-cover-small.jpeg"/><pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2026 03:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/3527af20-3538-4a5b-a89f-4d21d6fa2226.mp3" length="37976188" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>39:33</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>15</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>15</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/6cc04f9d-c68f-42b3-9538-ab53b9ed50ce/index.html" type="text/html"/><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-b14180cf-9230-4052-82ca-ef9a4fef973e.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>Aeschylus&apos; &quot;Persians&quot;: The OG Greek Tragedy</title><itunes:title>Aeschylus&apos; &quot;Persians&quot;: The OG Greek Tragedy</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Emily and Cam break down “The Persians”—the oldest surviving Greek tragedy, which offers a surprisingly sympathetic take on the enemies of Athens.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ul><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></u></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p>Cover photo adapted from an image of the Salamis Soldiers' monument, by Ziegler175:</p><ul><li><u><a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:SalamisPaloukiaSchlacht2.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:SalamisPaloukiaSchlacht2.jpg</a></u></li></ul><br/><p></p><p>----------</p><p>00:10 - Introduction</p><p>01:43 - Aeschylus and his historical context</p><ul><li>01:56 - The subject of the play (and its peculiarity)</li><li>03:06 - The Battle of Salamis and the Persian Wars</li><li>05:10 - Aeschylus’ Career</li></ul><br/><p>06:22 - The Persians in performance</p><ul><li>06:30 - The Dionysia of 472 BCE and Aeschylus’ tetralogy</li><li>08:35 - Pericles as producer (choregos)</li><li>09:09 - A synopsis of the play</li><li>11:12 - The structure of Greek Tragedies (or, how do we know that the Persians only needs two actors apart from the chorus?)</li></ul><br/><p>14:03 - Interpreting the play: sympathy for the Persians?</p><ul><li>15:06 - The survival of the play: evidence of its popularity?</li><li>16:04 - Triumphalism vs. a recognition of common experience</li><li>17:06 - Differences between Greek and Persians in the play: archers vs. spearmen, autocracy vs. autonomy, proskynesis and lamentation</li><li>20:36 - Aeschylus argues for common experiences: the Persians as Homeric heroes, the horrors and the costs of battle, and Aeschylus’ rejection of the “effeminate Persians” trope</li></ul><br/><p>26:37 - The play’s main theme: empire and hubris</p><ul><li>27:00 - Xerxes and his bad decisions</li><li>27:56 - The gods’ desire to punish Xerxes</li><li>28:53 - The hubris of Xerxes, or the hubris of the Empire? (Featuring Emily’s rant about hubris in ancient and modern thought)</li><li>34:27 - Aeschylus, the gods, and Athenian imperialism</li><li>36:55 - The social function of tragedy: thinking through big problems</li><li>37:28 - What staging the Persians can tell us about the play</li></ul><br/><p>39:12 - Wrap-up</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emily and Cam break down “The Persians”—the oldest surviving Greek tragedy, which offers a surprisingly sympathetic take on the enemies of Athens.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ul><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></u></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p>Cover photo adapted from an image of the Salamis Soldiers' monument, by Ziegler175:</p><ul><li><u><a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:SalamisPaloukiaSchlacht2.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:SalamisPaloukiaSchlacht2.jpg</a></u></li></ul><br/><p></p><p>----------</p><p>00:10 - Introduction</p><p>01:43 - Aeschylus and his historical context</p><ul><li>01:56 - The subject of the play (and its peculiarity)</li><li>03:06 - The Battle of Salamis and the Persian Wars</li><li>05:10 - Aeschylus’ Career</li></ul><br/><p>06:22 - The Persians in performance</p><ul><li>06:30 - The Dionysia of 472 BCE and Aeschylus’ tetralogy</li><li>08:35 - Pericles as producer (choregos)</li><li>09:09 - A synopsis of the play</li><li>11:12 - The structure of Greek Tragedies (or, how do we know that the Persians only needs two actors apart from the chorus?)</li></ul><br/><p>14:03 - Interpreting the play: sympathy for the Persians?</p><ul><li>15:06 - The survival of the play: evidence of its popularity?</li><li>16:04 - Triumphalism vs. a recognition of common experience</li><li>17:06 - Differences between Greek and Persians in the play: archers vs. spearmen, autocracy vs. autonomy, proskynesis and lamentation</li><li>20:36 - Aeschylus argues for common experiences: the Persians as Homeric heroes, the horrors and the costs of battle, and Aeschylus’ rejection of the “effeminate Persians” trope</li></ul><br/><p>26:37 - The play’s main theme: empire and hubris</p><ul><li>27:00 - Xerxes and his bad decisions</li><li>27:56 - The gods’ desire to punish Xerxes</li><li>28:53 - The hubris of Xerxes, or the hubris of the Empire? (Featuring Emily’s rant about hubris in ancient and modern thought)</li><li>34:27 - Aeschylus, the gods, and Athenian imperialism</li><li>36:55 - The social function of tragedy: thinking through big problems</li><li>37:28 - What staging the Persians can tell us about the play</li></ul><br/><p>39:12 - Wrap-up</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://havetogawilltravel.com/episode/aeschylus-persians-the-og-greek-tragedy]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">8d3f6b27-7be9-4552-a009-c1eeae4c5d4d</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/dd5155d2-f49c-453b-a18e-85b56985355d/SalamisPaloukiaSchlacht2.jpeg"/><pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2026 03:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/8d3f6b27-7be9-4552-a009-c1eeae4c5d4d.mp3" length="38379101" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>39:59</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>14</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/0f158588-1d3b-42c7-9c44-ea63efe07548/index.html" type="text/html"/><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-330f1037-dd59-4392-9a96-f2330c24db54.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>At Play in the Theater of Dionysus</title><itunes:title>At Play in the Theater of Dionysus</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>At Play in the Theater of Dionysus</p><p>The Theater of Dionysus as Aeschylus, Sophocles, and Euripides knew it was very different than the theater whose remains you see today in Athens. Listen to Emily and Cam walk you through the development of the space, and through the creation of the genre associated most strongly with it: Greek tragedy.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ul><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></u></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p>For images of the Theater and Sanctuary of Dionysus, visit our blog:</p><ul><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/the-sanctuary-and-theater-of-dionysus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/the-sanctuary-and-theater-of-dionysus</a></u></li></ul><br/><p></p><p>----------</p><p></p><p>00:10 - Introduction</p><p>01:37 - Visiting the Theater and Sanctuary</p><ul><li>01:42 - Where to find the Theater and Sanctuary</li><li>02:16 - Don’t confuse it with the Odeion of Herodes Atticus!</li><li>03:26 - An overview of the physical remains</li></ul><br/><p>04:01 - The Origins of the Sanctuary, the Theater, and the Festival</p><ul><li>04:02 - The Sanctuary, the Festival, and the Temples of Dionysus</li><li>04:58 - The Theater through Time: The Fifth Century, the Lycurgan Theater, the Hellenistic Theater, and the Roman Theater</li><li>07:59 - The Festivals of Dionysus: The Origins of the City Dionysia and celebrations for Dionysus in Ikaria and other demes</li></ul><br/><p>11:44 - The Origins of Scripted Drama in Athens</p><ul><li>11:50 - The Dithyramb</li><li>12:41 - The legend of Thespis, the first actor</li><li>13:15 - The importance of the chorus in Greek drama</li><li>14:10 - Masking and actors playing multiple characters</li><li>14:30 - The Development of the Three-Actor Model in the Age of Aeschylus, Sophocles, and Euripides</li></ul><br/><p>19:09 - The City Dionysia</p><ul><li>19:42 - The Schedule: The Procession and its Ithyphallic Floats; the Dithyrambic Competitions; the Dramatic Competitions</li><li>22:50 - Dionysus, the most important spectator</li><li>23:48 - The Organization of the Dramatic Competitions: Tragedies, Satyr Plays, Choruses, and Choregoi!</li></ul><br/><p>30:09 - The Performance Space and its Evolution</p><ul><li>30:20 - The Fifth-Century Theater: the Orchestra, the Skēnē, and the Paradoi</li><li>33:30 - Technical Innovations: the ekkyklēma and the mechanē</li><li>36:36 - The Deus Ex Machina in ancient Drama</li><li>37:34 - Changes over time in the layout of the theater and in the role of the Chorus</li></ul><br/><p>41:01 - Final Thoughts on the Importance of Tragedy</p><p>44:15 - Wrap-up</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At Play in the Theater of Dionysus</p><p>The Theater of Dionysus as Aeschylus, Sophocles, and Euripides knew it was very different than the theater whose remains you see today in Athens. Listen to Emily and Cam walk you through the development of the space, and through the creation of the genre associated most strongly with it: Greek tragedy.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ul><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></u></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p>For images of the Theater and Sanctuary of Dionysus, visit our blog:</p><ul><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/the-sanctuary-and-theater-of-dionysus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/the-sanctuary-and-theater-of-dionysus</a></u></li></ul><br/><p></p><p>----------</p><p></p><p>00:10 - Introduction</p><p>01:37 - Visiting the Theater and Sanctuary</p><ul><li>01:42 - Where to find the Theater and Sanctuary</li><li>02:16 - Don’t confuse it with the Odeion of Herodes Atticus!</li><li>03:26 - An overview of the physical remains</li></ul><br/><p>04:01 - The Origins of the Sanctuary, the Theater, and the Festival</p><ul><li>04:02 - The Sanctuary, the Festival, and the Temples of Dionysus</li><li>04:58 - The Theater through Time: The Fifth Century, the Lycurgan Theater, the Hellenistic Theater, and the Roman Theater</li><li>07:59 - The Festivals of Dionysus: The Origins of the City Dionysia and celebrations for Dionysus in Ikaria and other demes</li></ul><br/><p>11:44 - The Origins of Scripted Drama in Athens</p><ul><li>11:50 - The Dithyramb</li><li>12:41 - The legend of Thespis, the first actor</li><li>13:15 - The importance of the chorus in Greek drama</li><li>14:10 - Masking and actors playing multiple characters</li><li>14:30 - The Development of the Three-Actor Model in the Age of Aeschylus, Sophocles, and Euripides</li></ul><br/><p>19:09 - The City Dionysia</p><ul><li>19:42 - The Schedule: The Procession and its Ithyphallic Floats; the Dithyrambic Competitions; the Dramatic Competitions</li><li>22:50 - Dionysus, the most important spectator</li><li>23:48 - The Organization of the Dramatic Competitions: Tragedies, Satyr Plays, Choruses, and Choregoi!</li></ul><br/><p>30:09 - The Performance Space and its Evolution</p><ul><li>30:20 - The Fifth-Century Theater: the Orchestra, the Skēnē, and the Paradoi</li><li>33:30 - Technical Innovations: the ekkyklēma and the mechanē</li><li>36:36 - The Deus Ex Machina in ancient Drama</li><li>37:34 - Changes over time in the layout of the theater and in the role of the Chorus</li></ul><br/><p>41:01 - Final Thoughts on the Importance of Tragedy</p><p>44:15 - Wrap-up</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://havetogawilltravel.com/episode/at-play-in-the-theater-of-dionysus]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">32665bcc-f73e-4a21-9903-03b5ce88e6bb</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/dd98c08d-8ae6-4003-8994-2ef5895ae023/Episode-13-cover-compressed.jpeg"/><pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2026 03:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/32665bcc-f73e-4a21-9903-03b5ce88e6bb.mp3" length="43342366" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>45:09</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>13</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/ce5feda5-c30c-4c2a-938d-35e1133d6b76/index.html" type="text/html"/><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-a624b442-9c61-48ed-b06e-e97e9a70a54f.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>Emily and Cam’s Excellent Adventure (in Athens and Rome, of course!)</title><itunes:title>Emily and Cam’s Excellent Adventure (in Athens and Rome, of course!)</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Emily and Cam talk about their recent trip to Athens and Rome in an episode that features some talk about marathons, tsipouro, and cats.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p>For images of the Museum of the Forma Urbis, visit our blog post:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/the-museum-of-the-forma-urbis" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/the-museum-of-the-forma-urbis</a></li></ul><br/><p>Links to some of the places we mention in this episode:</p><ul><li><a href="https://athenascook.gr/en/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Athena’s Cook</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/paradosiako_serrwn/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Paradosiako Serron</a></li><li><a href="https://www.noctua.gr/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Noctua Brewing</a></li><li><a href="https://esthio.restaurant/el/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Esthio</a></li><li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/p/Baubo-100063581560091/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Βαυβώ (Vafvo)</a></li><li><a href="https://www.hotelsantamariatrastevere.it/en/gallery.php" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hotel Santa Maria</a></li><li><a href="https://www.basilicasanclemente.com/eng/the-basilica-and-the-excavations/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">San Clemente Archaeological Zone</a></li><li><a href="https://www.turismoroma.it/en/places/museo-della-forma-urbis" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Museum of the Forma Urbis</a></li></ul><br/><p></p><p>----------</p><p></p><p>00:10 - Introduction</p><p>01:25 - Our second walk through the Athens Marathon</p><ul><li>01:38 - Faliro: tourist sites, getting there, and the Marathon Expo</li><li>05:06 - Carb loading before the Marathon</li><li>06:32 - The trip to Marathon and the wait in the Stadium</li><li>09:27 - The race itself (drinking tsipouro in the footsteps of Spiridon Louis!)</li></ul><br/><p>15:19 - Our stay in Athens</p><ul><li>15:41 - How we travel</li><li>17:11 - Old neighborhoods (Plaka and Monastiraki) and ancient sites (the Acropolis and the Theatre of Dionysus)</li><li>19:01 - A field trip to Ilion (the Athens suburb, not Troy!) to eat at Paradosiako Serron</li><li>21:06 - Modern Athens: Pangrati</li><li>23:23 - Modern Athens: Koukaki and its restaurants (including Esthio) and our view of the Acropolis</li><li>29:36 - Modern Athens: Neos Kosmos and Βαυβώ</li></ul><br/><p>33:41 - Our Stay in Rome</p><ul><li>33:53 - Rome’s “feel” compared to Athens: geography and tourism</li><li>35:39 - Trastevere and the Hotel Santa Maria</li><li>37:12 - Culture shock: coffee and language issues</li><li>40:01 - The Archaeological Zone at San Clemente</li><li>43:45 - Castel Sant’Angelo</li><li>44:42 - The Museum of the Forma Urbis</li><li>46:34 - Wandering the city (and the Temple of Vibia Sabina and Hadrian)</li><li>49:30 - Hangin’ on the Janiculum</li></ul><br/><p>50:26 - Wrap-up</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emily and Cam talk about their recent trip to Athens and Rome in an episode that features some talk about marathons, tsipouro, and cats.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p>For images of the Museum of the Forma Urbis, visit our blog post:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/the-museum-of-the-forma-urbis" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/the-museum-of-the-forma-urbis</a></li></ul><br/><p>Links to some of the places we mention in this episode:</p><ul><li><a href="https://athenascook.gr/en/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Athena’s Cook</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/paradosiako_serrwn/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Paradosiako Serron</a></li><li><a href="https://www.noctua.gr/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Noctua Brewing</a></li><li><a href="https://esthio.restaurant/el/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Esthio</a></li><li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/p/Baubo-100063581560091/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Βαυβώ (Vafvo)</a></li><li><a href="https://www.hotelsantamariatrastevere.it/en/gallery.php" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hotel Santa Maria</a></li><li><a href="https://www.basilicasanclemente.com/eng/the-basilica-and-the-excavations/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">San Clemente Archaeological Zone</a></li><li><a href="https://www.turismoroma.it/en/places/museo-della-forma-urbis" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Museum of the Forma Urbis</a></li></ul><br/><p></p><p>----------</p><p></p><p>00:10 - Introduction</p><p>01:25 - Our second walk through the Athens Marathon</p><ul><li>01:38 - Faliro: tourist sites, getting there, and the Marathon Expo</li><li>05:06 - Carb loading before the Marathon</li><li>06:32 - The trip to Marathon and the wait in the Stadium</li><li>09:27 - The race itself (drinking tsipouro in the footsteps of Spiridon Louis!)</li></ul><br/><p>15:19 - Our stay in Athens</p><ul><li>15:41 - How we travel</li><li>17:11 - Old neighborhoods (Plaka and Monastiraki) and ancient sites (the Acropolis and the Theatre of Dionysus)</li><li>19:01 - A field trip to Ilion (the Athens suburb, not Troy!) to eat at Paradosiako Serron</li><li>21:06 - Modern Athens: Pangrati</li><li>23:23 - Modern Athens: Koukaki and its restaurants (including Esthio) and our view of the Acropolis</li><li>29:36 - Modern Athens: Neos Kosmos and Βαυβώ</li></ul><br/><p>33:41 - Our Stay in Rome</p><ul><li>33:53 - Rome’s “feel” compared to Athens: geography and tourism</li><li>35:39 - Trastevere and the Hotel Santa Maria</li><li>37:12 - Culture shock: coffee and language issues</li><li>40:01 - The Archaeological Zone at San Clemente</li><li>43:45 - Castel Sant’Angelo</li><li>44:42 - The Museum of the Forma Urbis</li><li>46:34 - Wandering the city (and the Temple of Vibia Sabina and Hadrian)</li><li>49:30 - Hangin’ on the Janiculum</li></ul><br/><p>50:26 - Wrap-up</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://havetogawilltravel.com/episode/emily-and-cams-excellent-adventure-in-athens-and-rome-of-course]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">6b3e47d7-fe0c-4ba9-b611-28f6d24da180</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/756ea30b-e5b3-4706-8a85-8a53a83917c7/cover12.jpeg"/><pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2025 03:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/6b3e47d7-fe0c-4ba9-b611-28f6d24da180.mp3" length="49790222" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>51:52</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>12</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/3b278b59-0149-42a0-9fd7-5d35400a766c/index.html" type="text/html"/><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-4401d130-ee95-455f-8a3d-af46ae51e657.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>Something for everyone! Plautus and “A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum”</title><itunes:title>Something for everyone! Plautus and “A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum”</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Emily and Cam tackle “A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum”—an uproarious adaptation of Plautus’ Roman comedy.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p>Some plays of Plautus referenced in this episode:</p><ul><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudolus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pseudolus</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mostellaria" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mostellaria</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Gloriosus_(play)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Miles Gloriosus</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menaechmi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Menaechmi</a></li></ul><br/><p>Cover Image:</p><ul><li>Mosaic of Masks. Second or third century CE. Found on the Aventine, possibly on the site of the ancient Thermae Decianae; now held in the Capitoline Museums. <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mosaic_depicting_theatrical_masks_of_Tragedy_and_Comedy_(Thermae_Decianae).jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Photo by Carole Raddato, Wikimedia Commons.</a></li></ul><br/><p></p><p>----------</p><p></p><p>00:11 - Introduction</p><ul><li>00:38 - A Funny thing Happened on the Way to the Forum: Sonheim’s Musical and the 1966 film</li></ul><br/><p>03:19 - Our approach to reviewing adaptations of ancient literature</p><p>05:20 - Plautus and Roman Comedy</p><ul><li>05:29 - What we know about Plautus himself (his dates, his name, his background)</li><li>09:41 - Plautus' style: Roman comedy, exotic settings, stock plots, and stock characters</li></ul><br/><p>17:56 - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum: Plautus on Screen</p><ul><li>18:51 - The setting: “A less fashionable suburb of Rome”</li><li>19:44 - The characters (Pseudolus, Hysterium, Marcus Lycus, Hero, Philia, Miles Gloriosus, and others)</li><li>23:33 - The plot, in all of its messiness</li><li>27:15 - The movie’s sources: Plautus’ Pseudolus, Mostellaria, Miles Gloriosus, and other plays</li><li>33:01 - Metatheatre in Plautus and in A Funny Thing</li><li>36:25 - The movie’s departures from Plautus: More is more! (Expansive sets, elaborate scenes, and exaggerated physical comedy)</li></ul><br/><p>43:36 - Cam and Emily discuss their reactions (and we learn the dirty secrets of Emily’s history with this film!)</p><p>49:01 – Wrap-up</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emily and Cam tackle “A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum”—an uproarious adaptation of Plautus’ Roman comedy.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p>Some plays of Plautus referenced in this episode:</p><ul><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudolus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pseudolus</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mostellaria" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mostellaria</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Gloriosus_(play)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Miles Gloriosus</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menaechmi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Menaechmi</a></li></ul><br/><p>Cover Image:</p><ul><li>Mosaic of Masks. Second or third century CE. Found on the Aventine, possibly on the site of the ancient Thermae Decianae; now held in the Capitoline Museums. <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mosaic_depicting_theatrical_masks_of_Tragedy_and_Comedy_(Thermae_Decianae).jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Photo by Carole Raddato, Wikimedia Commons.</a></li></ul><br/><p></p><p>----------</p><p></p><p>00:11 - Introduction</p><ul><li>00:38 - A Funny thing Happened on the Way to the Forum: Sonheim’s Musical and the 1966 film</li></ul><br/><p>03:19 - Our approach to reviewing adaptations of ancient literature</p><p>05:20 - Plautus and Roman Comedy</p><ul><li>05:29 - What we know about Plautus himself (his dates, his name, his background)</li><li>09:41 - Plautus' style: Roman comedy, exotic settings, stock plots, and stock characters</li></ul><br/><p>17:56 - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum: Plautus on Screen</p><ul><li>18:51 - The setting: “A less fashionable suburb of Rome”</li><li>19:44 - The characters (Pseudolus, Hysterium, Marcus Lycus, Hero, Philia, Miles Gloriosus, and others)</li><li>23:33 - The plot, in all of its messiness</li><li>27:15 - The movie’s sources: Plautus’ Pseudolus, Mostellaria, Miles Gloriosus, and other plays</li><li>33:01 - Metatheatre in Plautus and in A Funny Thing</li><li>36:25 - The movie’s departures from Plautus: More is more! (Expansive sets, elaborate scenes, and exaggerated physical comedy)</li></ul><br/><p>43:36 - Cam and Emily discuss their reactions (and we learn the dirty secrets of Emily’s history with this film!)</p><p>49:01 – Wrap-up</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://havetogawilltravel.com/episode/something-for-everyone-plautus-and-a-funny-thing-happened-on-the-way-to-the-forum]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">4052c71a-fad4-4694-8640-008f22c0ae16</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/a57ccdd3-fba8-4b23-8e92-85bff0736255/Episode-11-cover.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2025 03:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/4052c71a-fad4-4694-8640-008f22c0ae16.mp3" length="48156002" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>50:10</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>11</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/282bbca8-390d-4fa8-8994-356b80a0cf77/index.html" type="text/html"/><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-83b9174e-c002-4600-b3c7-2b45ff4ff4a7.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>Stranger Things: Eleven’s Heroic Journey</title><itunes:title>Stranger Things: Eleven’s Heroic Journey</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Emily and Cam break down the character arc of Eleven in Stranger Things and argue that she is on a “heroic journey” like that of Herakles.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com/</a></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p>For more information about Herakles and about “heroes” in Ancient Greece, listen to our previous episode:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/episode/holding-out-for-a-hero-in-ancient-greece" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com/episode/holding-out-for-a-hero-in-ancient-greece</a></li></ul><br/><p>Key literature mentioned in this episode:</p><ul><li>Joseph Campbell, <em>The Hero with A Thousand Faces</em></li><li>David Adams Leeming, <em>Mythology: The Voyage of the Hero</em></li><li>Maureen Murdock, <em>The Heroine’s Journey</em></li><li>Valerie Estelle Frankel, <em>From Girl to Goddess</em></li></ul><br/><p>—————</p><p>00:11 - Introduction</p><p>01:28 - Reprise: The Hero’s Journey</p><ul><li>01:47 - Campbell’s “Everyman” model</li><li>04:06 - Leeming’s “Chosen One” model</li><li>06:04 - Herakles and Eleven as Leeming-style, “Chosen One” Heroes</li><li>08:24 - Gender and the Hero’s Journey: Maureen Murdock and Valerie Estelle Frankel</li></ul><br/><p>11:29 - Eleven’s Heroic Journey so far: Eleven as Herakles with a Gendered Twist</p><ul><li>11:59 - Stranger Things: An Overview</li><li>13:10 - Season One: Eleven as a character in the model of Obi Wan?</li><li>16:54 - Season Two: Eleven emerges as a Hero on a Leeming-style journey, with elements of Murdock’s and Frankel’s models</li><li>25:11 - Season Three: the (metaphorical) death of the hero, Eleven</li><li>28:21 - Season Four: Eleven descends to the underworld, and is reborn?</li><li>33:28 - Recap: Leeming’s model and the stages of Eleven’s Heroic Journey</li></ul><br/><p>37:30 - Predictions for Season Five: How will Eleven’s Heroic Journey end?</p><ul><li>38:14 - The three basic possibilities: (1) Eleven as superhero; (2) Eleven as Campbell-style “Everyman” hero; (3) Eleven as a “Chosen One” hero</li><li>41:52 - What Herakles’ journey tells us about Eleven and about Stranger Things</li></ul><br/><p>43:26 - Wrap-up</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emily and Cam break down the character arc of Eleven in Stranger Things and argue that she is on a “heroic journey” like that of Herakles.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com/</a></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p>For more information about Herakles and about “heroes” in Ancient Greece, listen to our previous episode:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/episode/holding-out-for-a-hero-in-ancient-greece" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com/episode/holding-out-for-a-hero-in-ancient-greece</a></li></ul><br/><p>Key literature mentioned in this episode:</p><ul><li>Joseph Campbell, <em>The Hero with A Thousand Faces</em></li><li>David Adams Leeming, <em>Mythology: The Voyage of the Hero</em></li><li>Maureen Murdock, <em>The Heroine’s Journey</em></li><li>Valerie Estelle Frankel, <em>From Girl to Goddess</em></li></ul><br/><p>—————</p><p>00:11 - Introduction</p><p>01:28 - Reprise: The Hero’s Journey</p><ul><li>01:47 - Campbell’s “Everyman” model</li><li>04:06 - Leeming’s “Chosen One” model</li><li>06:04 - Herakles and Eleven as Leeming-style, “Chosen One” Heroes</li><li>08:24 - Gender and the Hero’s Journey: Maureen Murdock and Valerie Estelle Frankel</li></ul><br/><p>11:29 - Eleven’s Heroic Journey so far: Eleven as Herakles with a Gendered Twist</p><ul><li>11:59 - Stranger Things: An Overview</li><li>13:10 - Season One: Eleven as a character in the model of Obi Wan?</li><li>16:54 - Season Two: Eleven emerges as a Hero on a Leeming-style journey, with elements of Murdock’s and Frankel’s models</li><li>25:11 - Season Three: the (metaphorical) death of the hero, Eleven</li><li>28:21 - Season Four: Eleven descends to the underworld, and is reborn?</li><li>33:28 - Recap: Leeming’s model and the stages of Eleven’s Heroic Journey</li></ul><br/><p>37:30 - Predictions for Season Five: How will Eleven’s Heroic Journey end?</p><ul><li>38:14 - The three basic possibilities: (1) Eleven as superhero; (2) Eleven as Campbell-style “Everyman” hero; (3) Eleven as a “Chosen One” hero</li><li>41:52 - What Herakles’ journey tells us about Eleven and about Stranger Things</li></ul><br/><p>43:26 - Wrap-up</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://havetogawilltravel.com/episode/stranger-things-elevens-heroic-journey]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">68743f10-cb7f-4e0b-abc7-4f8a5f56c9da</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/6e2f5f63-91ed-4558-8efa-d9e455e52147/Episode-10-cover.jpg"/><pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2025 03:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/68743f10-cb7f-4e0b-abc7-4f8a5f56c9da.mp3" length="44009429" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>45:51</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>10</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/3f2ae855-a3a8-462e-aba3-2fd7da0c2efe/index.html" type="text/html"/><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-b4c3cc26-f208-424b-859a-69882cfaf7b6.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>Holding Out for a Hero (in Ancient Greece)</title><itunes:title>Holding Out for a Hero (in Ancient Greece)</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>What’s a “hero”, and what kinds of stories do we tell about them? Emily and Cam explore how heroes were imagined in ancient Greece as they lay the groundwork for next episode’s discussion of Eleven’s heroic journey in Stranger Things.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.nypl.org/blog/2021/03/18/heroines-fairytales-folklore-fables-legends" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">NYPL’s list of “Heroines in Fairytales, Folklore, Fables and Legends for Young Readers</a><strong><a href="https://www.nypl.org/blog/2021/03/18/heroines-fairytales-folklore-fables-legends" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">”</a></strong></li></ul><br/><p></p><p>Cover Image:</p><ul><li>Pylades, Orestes, and Elektra perform rites at the tomb of Agamemnon. Painted in the late fourth century BCE on an amphora made in one of the Greek cities of southern Italy (which is now held at the MFA in Boston). Photo by Emily.</li></ul><br/><p></p><p></p><p>----------</p><p></p><p>00:11 - Introduction</p><p>01:15 - What is a hero?</p><ul><li>01:33 - Some modern definitions of hero</li><li>02:52 - The roots of the word “hero” in ancient Greek (and maybe earlier)</li><li>04:12 - The various meanings of “hero” in ancient Greece: leaders, godlike heroes, and mortals given divine honors</li><li>13:09 – The flexibility of the hero concept in ancient Greece, and some examples: Achilles, Sarpedon, Theagenes of Thasos, and Kleomedes of Astypalaia</li><li>20:15 – Death and the hero in ancient Greece, and some strange cases: Asklepios and Herakles</li></ul><br/><p>26:51 - The stories we tell about heroes</p><ul><li>27:39 – Two models of the “hero’s journey”: Joseph Campbell, “The Hero with a Thousand Faces”, and David Adams Leeming, “Mythology”</li><li>30:57 - A digression on problematic treatments of gender in hero studies</li><li>33:40 - Odysseus as the Cambell-style “everyman” hero</li><li>36:00 - Herakles as the Leeming-style “Chosen One”</li><li>42:26 – Coda: Alexander the Great and Herakles</li></ul><br/><p>44:17 - Wrap-up and teaser for our next episode on Stranger Things’ “Eleven”</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What’s a “hero”, and what kinds of stories do we tell about them? Emily and Cam explore how heroes were imagined in ancient Greece as they lay the groundwork for next episode’s discussion of Eleven’s heroic journey in Stranger Things.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.nypl.org/blog/2021/03/18/heroines-fairytales-folklore-fables-legends" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">NYPL’s list of “Heroines in Fairytales, Folklore, Fables and Legends for Young Readers</a><strong><a href="https://www.nypl.org/blog/2021/03/18/heroines-fairytales-folklore-fables-legends" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">”</a></strong></li></ul><br/><p></p><p>Cover Image:</p><ul><li>Pylades, Orestes, and Elektra perform rites at the tomb of Agamemnon. Painted in the late fourth century BCE on an amphora made in one of the Greek cities of southern Italy (which is now held at the MFA in Boston). Photo by Emily.</li></ul><br/><p></p><p></p><p>----------</p><p></p><p>00:11 - Introduction</p><p>01:15 - What is a hero?</p><ul><li>01:33 - Some modern definitions of hero</li><li>02:52 - The roots of the word “hero” in ancient Greek (and maybe earlier)</li><li>04:12 - The various meanings of “hero” in ancient Greece: leaders, godlike heroes, and mortals given divine honors</li><li>13:09 – The flexibility of the hero concept in ancient Greece, and some examples: Achilles, Sarpedon, Theagenes of Thasos, and Kleomedes of Astypalaia</li><li>20:15 – Death and the hero in ancient Greece, and some strange cases: Asklepios and Herakles</li></ul><br/><p>26:51 - The stories we tell about heroes</p><ul><li>27:39 – Two models of the “hero’s journey”: Joseph Campbell, “The Hero with a Thousand Faces”, and David Adams Leeming, “Mythology”</li><li>30:57 - A digression on problematic treatments of gender in hero studies</li><li>33:40 - Odysseus as the Cambell-style “everyman” hero</li><li>36:00 - Herakles as the Leeming-style “Chosen One”</li><li>42:26 – Coda: Alexander the Great and Herakles</li></ul><br/><p>44:17 - Wrap-up and teaser for our next episode on Stranger Things’ “Eleven”</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://havetogawilltravel.com/episode/holding-out-for-a-hero-in-ancient-greece]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">20e0638e-6a28-41ba-8c8b-75a2ca18fe67</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/f3364edd-9e8b-4907-89a3-1c053226db12/Ep9-Cover.jpg"/><pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2025 03:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/20e0638e-6a28-41ba-8c8b-75a2ca18fe67.mp3" length="44528952" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>46:23</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>9</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/246854a1-a3fb-4155-9f3e-1e5ce1df26e8/index.html" type="text/html"/><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-73f29069-1ae0-4984-90ec-e7583768e695.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>The Athenian Acropolis, Throughout the Ages</title><itunes:title>The Athenian Acropolis, Throughout the Ages</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Athenian Acropolis, Then and Now</strong></p><p>The Athenian Acropolis had a long life both before and after the construction of the Parthenon in the fifth century BCE. Join Emily and Cam as they explore the long history of Athens’ most iconic landmark.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe and to find us on social media:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p>Cover Image:</p><ul><li>Illustration from <em>Atene Attica Descritta da suoi Principii sino all’acquisto fatto dall’Armi Venete nel 1687, </em>by Francesco Fanelli. (<em>Venice, Antonio Bortoli</em>, 1695 edition.)</li></ul><br/><p></p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/some-bronze-age-remnants-on-the-acropolis" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our short blog post</a> featuring pictures of Bronze Age remnants on the Acropolis.</li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGitmYl6U90" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Parthenon, by Costa-Gavras</a>. A short video depicting the Parthenon and its evolution through time (featuring Byron’s poem about Elgin).</li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T7_oi985dg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Acropolis of Athens, 3500 BC – 2010 AD</a>, by Ancient Athens 3D. Another short video, this one depicting the evolution of the Acropolis as a whole.</li><li><a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Schinkel_%E2%80%93_Acropolis_Palace_%E2%80%93_Ansichten_von_Westen_und_S%C3%BCden.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A concept drawing</a> of Schinkel’s vision for the new royal palace on the Acropolis.</li><li><a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Schinkel_%E2%80%93_Acropolis_Palace_%E2%80%93_Grundriss.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A ground plan</a> of Schinkel’s vision for the new royal palace on the Acropolis.</li></ul><br/><p></p><p></p><p>----------</p><p></p><p>00:11 - Introduction</p><p>02:24 - The Acropolis in the Bronze Age</p><ul><li>02:29 - An overview of the Bronze Age in Greece</li><li>03:15 - The Bronze Age citadel on the Acropolis</li><li>04:43 - Traces of the Bronze Age on the Acropolis today</li></ul><br/><p>06:36 - The Acropolis in the Archaic Period</p><ul><li>06:37 - The Bronze Age Collapse</li><li>07:29 - Ancient interpretations of Bronze Age monuments</li><li>08:48 - The great temples of the Archaic period: what can we know?</li><li>11:45 - The Pre-Parthenon</li></ul><br/><p>13:34 - The Hellenistic and Roman Acropolis</p><ul><li>13:43 - Post-classical Athens as a cultural center</li><li>14:40 - Alexander the Great, the Hellenistic rulers of Pergamon, and the Romans</li><li>15:57 - Pausanias visits the Acropolis in the 2nd century CE</li></ul><br/><p>17:11 - The Byzantine period and the coming of Christianity</p><ul><li>17:17 - The Parthenon: from temple, to church, to the Cathedral of Theotokos Atheniotissa</li><li>18:28 - Medieval architectural modifications to the Parthenon</li><li>20:09 - The ancient metopes of the Parthenon defaced</li><li>21:51 - The Parthenon as a site of Christian pilgrimage</li></ul><br/><p>22:28 - The Fourth Crusade and its impact in Athens</p><ul><li>22:41 - The crusaders sack Constantinople and conquer Greece</li><li>23:24 - The Acropolis in the era of the Franks</li></ul><br/><p>25:12 - The Acropolis under Ottoman Rule</p><ul><li>25:19 - Mehmet II and the conquest of Greece</li><li>25:44 - The Parthenon becomes a mosque</li><li>26:23 - The Venetian siege of Athens and the explosion heard round the world</li><li>29:34 - Lord Elgin removes many of the Parthenon’s sculptures</li></ul><br/><p>37:38 - The Acropolis after the Greek War of Independence</p><ul><li>38:14 - The new king of the Hellenes and plans for the Acropolis</li><li>39:24 - The “restoration” of the fifth-century BCE Acropolis</li><li>42:12 - Modern work on the Acropolis</li><li>42:32 - The ethics of archaeological site preservation and presentation</li></ul><br/><p>45:03 - Wrap-up: the enduring significance of the Acropolis</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Athenian Acropolis, Then and Now</strong></p><p>The Athenian Acropolis had a long life both before and after the construction of the Parthenon in the fifth century BCE. Join Emily and Cam as they explore the long history of Athens’ most iconic landmark.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe and to find us on social media:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p>Cover Image:</p><ul><li>Illustration from <em>Atene Attica Descritta da suoi Principii sino all’acquisto fatto dall’Armi Venete nel 1687, </em>by Francesco Fanelli. (<em>Venice, Antonio Bortoli</em>, 1695 edition.)</li></ul><br/><p></p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/some-bronze-age-remnants-on-the-acropolis" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our short blog post</a> featuring pictures of Bronze Age remnants on the Acropolis.</li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGitmYl6U90" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Parthenon, by Costa-Gavras</a>. A short video depicting the Parthenon and its evolution through time (featuring Byron’s poem about Elgin).</li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T7_oi985dg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Acropolis of Athens, 3500 BC – 2010 AD</a>, by Ancient Athens 3D. Another short video, this one depicting the evolution of the Acropolis as a whole.</li><li><a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Schinkel_%E2%80%93_Acropolis_Palace_%E2%80%93_Ansichten_von_Westen_und_S%C3%BCden.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A concept drawing</a> of Schinkel’s vision for the new royal palace on the Acropolis.</li><li><a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Schinkel_%E2%80%93_Acropolis_Palace_%E2%80%93_Grundriss.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A ground plan</a> of Schinkel’s vision for the new royal palace on the Acropolis.</li></ul><br/><p></p><p></p><p>----------</p><p></p><p>00:11 - Introduction</p><p>02:24 - The Acropolis in the Bronze Age</p><ul><li>02:29 - An overview of the Bronze Age in Greece</li><li>03:15 - The Bronze Age citadel on the Acropolis</li><li>04:43 - Traces of the Bronze Age on the Acropolis today</li></ul><br/><p>06:36 - The Acropolis in the Archaic Period</p><ul><li>06:37 - The Bronze Age Collapse</li><li>07:29 - Ancient interpretations of Bronze Age monuments</li><li>08:48 - The great temples of the Archaic period: what can we know?</li><li>11:45 - The Pre-Parthenon</li></ul><br/><p>13:34 - The Hellenistic and Roman Acropolis</p><ul><li>13:43 - Post-classical Athens as a cultural center</li><li>14:40 - Alexander the Great, the Hellenistic rulers of Pergamon, and the Romans</li><li>15:57 - Pausanias visits the Acropolis in the 2nd century CE</li></ul><br/><p>17:11 - The Byzantine period and the coming of Christianity</p><ul><li>17:17 - The Parthenon: from temple, to church, to the Cathedral of Theotokos Atheniotissa</li><li>18:28 - Medieval architectural modifications to the Parthenon</li><li>20:09 - The ancient metopes of the Parthenon defaced</li><li>21:51 - The Parthenon as a site of Christian pilgrimage</li></ul><br/><p>22:28 - The Fourth Crusade and its impact in Athens</p><ul><li>22:41 - The crusaders sack Constantinople and conquer Greece</li><li>23:24 - The Acropolis in the era of the Franks</li></ul><br/><p>25:12 - The Acropolis under Ottoman Rule</p><ul><li>25:19 - Mehmet II and the conquest of Greece</li><li>25:44 - The Parthenon becomes a mosque</li><li>26:23 - The Venetian siege of Athens and the explosion heard round the world</li><li>29:34 - Lord Elgin removes many of the Parthenon’s sculptures</li></ul><br/><p>37:38 - The Acropolis after the Greek War of Independence</p><ul><li>38:14 - The new king of the Hellenes and plans for the Acropolis</li><li>39:24 - The “restoration” of the fifth-century BCE Acropolis</li><li>42:12 - Modern work on the Acropolis</li><li>42:32 - The ethics of archaeological site preservation and presentation</li></ul><br/><p>45:03 - Wrap-up: the enduring significance of the Acropolis</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://havetogawilltravel.com/episode/the-athenian-acropolis-throughout-the-ages]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">0bea1203-ee69-4eda-b1dd-5ca298f1f59a</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/ab91c389-c26b-4f09-9e84-3c26f672ae56/Episode-8-cover.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2025 03:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/0bea1203-ee69-4eda-b1dd-5ca298f1f59a.mp3" length="47311724" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>49:17</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>8</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/ba093348-25f2-437e-9c69-458b9311acad/index.html" type="text/html"/><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-b6dc9e4f-b051-4667-9cac-de68905859ea.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>The Athenian Acropolis, Then and Now</title><itunes:title>The Athenian Acropolis, Then and Now</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Emily and Cam talk about what it’s like to visit the Athenian Acropolis today; how that experience compares to what visitors would have seen in the fifth century BCE; when and why the remains of the structures there today were created (especially the Parthenon and the Erechtheion); and what those structures meant to ancient Athenians.</p><p></p><p>Episode Links:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/athena-in-nashville-a-replica-of-pheidias-athena-parthenon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our short blog post</a> featuring pictures of Nashville’s replica of the Athena Parthenos statue.</li></ul><br/><p></p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe and to find us on social media:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p></p><p>----------</p><p>00:11 - Introduction</p><p>02:05 - Visiting the Acropolis: the modern experience</p><ul><li>02:32 - The geography of Attica</li><li>03:41 - Our first impressions of the Acropolis (and how Goethe did it better)</li><li>05:45 - What visiting the Acropolis is like: sacred and profane space; the temple of Athena Nikē (and aspects of the gods); the Propylaia; the Parthenon; the Erectheion; the Dörpfeld Foundations</li></ul><br/><p>14:23 - What visiting the Acropolis was like in the fifth century BCE</p><ul><li>14:30 - The ramp</li><li>16:28 - Athena Promachos</li><li>17:01 - Colorful temples</li><li>17:38 - Dedications everywhere (and why dedications mattered)</li></ul><br/><p>20:20 - How and when the structures on the Acropolis came to be</p><ul><li>20:25 - The basic context: Darius, Xerxes, and the Persian invasions of Greece</li><li>22:20 - The Oath of Plataia: the Greeks swear not to rebuild their temples</li><li>23:59 - What changed? War in the Aegean, the Peace of Kallias, and the Athenian Empire</li></ul><br/><p>29:01 - The Parthenon</p><ul><li>29:26 - The basics of the Parthenon and Greek architectural orders</li><li>32:38 - The Parthenon’s pediment sculptures: the west pediment group and the east pediment group</li><li>37:31 - The metopes: the Amazonomachy (west), the Trojan War (north), the Gigantomachy (east), Lapiths vs. Centaurs (south)</li><li>40:37 - The Ionic frieze and various interpretations of its imagery</li><li>43:53 - Pheidias’ statue of Athena and its decoration</li><li>46:04 - The meaning of the Parthenon’s sculpture: the Athenians, their empire, and their imperial mission</li></ul><br/><p>49:41 - The Erechtheion</p><ul><li>49:49 - The fundamental weirdness of the Erechtheion</li><li>52:08 - Why is it so strange? The persistence of ancient ritual.</li><li>52:54 - The most sacred image of Athena: the Xoanon</li><li>54:08 - Is the building we call the Erechtheion the building the ancient Athenians (and Pausanias) called the Erechtheion? Or is it the temple of Athena Polias?</li><li>56:48 - Emily delivers a fine rant about the perils of “received wisdom” in Classics</li><li>1:01:08 - Cam footnotes Emily’s rant with a digression on <em>horror vacui</em></li></ul><br/><p>1:02:02 - Wrap-up </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Emily and Cam talk about what it’s like to visit the Athenian Acropolis today; how that experience compares to what visitors would have seen in the fifth century BCE; when and why the remains of the structures there today were created (especially the Parthenon and the Erechtheion); and what those structures meant to ancient Athenians.</p><p></p><p>Episode Links:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/athena-in-nashville-a-replica-of-pheidias-athena-parthenon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our short blog post</a> featuring pictures of Nashville’s replica of the Athena Parthenos statue.</li></ul><br/><p></p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe and to find us on social media:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p></p><p>----------</p><p>00:11 - Introduction</p><p>02:05 - Visiting the Acropolis: the modern experience</p><ul><li>02:32 - The geography of Attica</li><li>03:41 - Our first impressions of the Acropolis (and how Goethe did it better)</li><li>05:45 - What visiting the Acropolis is like: sacred and profane space; the temple of Athena Nikē (and aspects of the gods); the Propylaia; the Parthenon; the Erectheion; the Dörpfeld Foundations</li></ul><br/><p>14:23 - What visiting the Acropolis was like in the fifth century BCE</p><ul><li>14:30 - The ramp</li><li>16:28 - Athena Promachos</li><li>17:01 - Colorful temples</li><li>17:38 - Dedications everywhere (and why dedications mattered)</li></ul><br/><p>20:20 - How and when the structures on the Acropolis came to be</p><ul><li>20:25 - The basic context: Darius, Xerxes, and the Persian invasions of Greece</li><li>22:20 - The Oath of Plataia: the Greeks swear not to rebuild their temples</li><li>23:59 - What changed? War in the Aegean, the Peace of Kallias, and the Athenian Empire</li></ul><br/><p>29:01 - The Parthenon</p><ul><li>29:26 - The basics of the Parthenon and Greek architectural orders</li><li>32:38 - The Parthenon’s pediment sculptures: the west pediment group and the east pediment group</li><li>37:31 - The metopes: the Amazonomachy (west), the Trojan War (north), the Gigantomachy (east), Lapiths vs. Centaurs (south)</li><li>40:37 - The Ionic frieze and various interpretations of its imagery</li><li>43:53 - Pheidias’ statue of Athena and its decoration</li><li>46:04 - The meaning of the Parthenon’s sculpture: the Athenians, their empire, and their imperial mission</li></ul><br/><p>49:41 - The Erechtheion</p><ul><li>49:49 - The fundamental weirdness of the Erechtheion</li><li>52:08 - Why is it so strange? The persistence of ancient ritual.</li><li>52:54 - The most sacred image of Athena: the Xoanon</li><li>54:08 - Is the building we call the Erechtheion the building the ancient Athenians (and Pausanias) called the Erechtheion? Or is it the temple of Athena Polias?</li><li>56:48 - Emily delivers a fine rant about the perils of “received wisdom” in Classics</li><li>1:01:08 - Cam footnotes Emily’s rant with a digression on <em>horror vacui</em></li></ul><br/><p>1:02:02 - Wrap-up </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://havetogawilltravel.com/episode/the-athenian-acropolis-then-and-now]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">59029333-4dba-4a95-b36a-58787be57fee</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/56dd8b7e-f701-47e4-b528-2243c33fcfd4/IMG-0755.jpeg"/><pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2025 03:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/59029333-4dba-4a95-b36a-58787be57fee.mp3" length="61383574" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:03:56</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>7</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/c2325393-d4fc-46d9-9e32-677d288806b2/index.html" type="text/html"/><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-39212d3d-1613-4786-be3c-05a64fe8a8a3.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>Spartacus in Fact and Fiction</title><itunes:title>Spartacus in Fact and Fiction</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode—the final episode in a three-part series on gladiators—Emily and Cam focus on Spartacus, the most famous gladiator of all. They first discuss the causes of Spartacus’ rebellion against the Romans, and then explore how Spartacus has been represented in modern literature and film.</p><ul><li>Cover image: Vincenzo Vela, Spartacus (1848); photograph by Rama (Wikimedia commons)</li></ul><br/><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKCmyiljKo0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“I am Spartacus”</a>: an iconic scene from Kirk Douglas’ 1960 film</li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T481yh1KiY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pepsi’s “Spartacus” commercial</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4nPW69A8vo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“The Son of Spartacus”</a>: an unofficial 1962 sequel to the Kirk Douglas movie, starring Steve Reeves</li></ul><br/><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe and to find us on social media:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p></p><p>----------</p><p>00:10 - Introduction</p><p>01:11 - The sources: what can we know about Spartacus?</p><ul><li>01:27 - Plutarch, Appian, and their interest in Spartacus</li><li>02:17 - Sallust: the original source</li></ul><br/><p>02:58 - Spartacus: a basic biography</p><ul><li>03:05 - Spartacus' origin in Thrace, among the Maidi</li><li>03:16 - Spartacus' brief career as a Roman auxiliary and as a latro</li><li>03:49 - Spartacus enslaved and sold to the ludus of Lentulus Batiatus</li><li>04:44 - The gladiators escape from Batiatus’ ludus, seek refuge on Mount Vesuvius, and defeat several forces sent to suppress them</li><li>07:07 - As the rebellion gathers steam, Spartacus and his supporters drive north, and defeat three Roman armies along the way</li><li>10:04 - After Spartacus’ army turns south again, winning yet another major battle, the Romans entrust Crassus with the responsibility of ending the rebellion</li><li>11:49 - The Romans outmaneuver Spartacus and defeat the rebels</li></ul><br/><p>15:31 - Why did Spartacus and his supporters rebel?</p><ul><li>15:51 - Enslaved people and small-scale resistance</li><li>17:28 - What made large-scale rebellions so difficult</li><li>18:40 - Poor living conditions as a motivation for rebellion: gladiators, enslaved herdsmen, enslaved agricultural workers</li><li>21:16 - Poor prospects for winning manumission as a further motivation for rebellion</li><li>23:03 - Many of the rebels had been enslaved only recently and longed to reclaim their freedom</li></ul><br/><p>24:52 - What were Spartacus and his supporters attempting to accomplish?</p><ul><li>25:15 - To escape from Italy, or not? The sources and the problem of reconstructing Spartacus’ plans</li><li>27:01 - Modern approaches: (1) The sources had it right; (2) Spartacus had a larger agenda—whether to destroy the hegemony of Rome in Italy, or to end slavery</li><li>28:15 - A critique of these approaches, and an alternative: staying together was the best guarantee of freedom</li></ul><br/><p>31:16 - The ongoing resonance of Spartacus in modern literature, film, and television</p><ul><li>32:29 - The discovery of Spartacus by French and Italian thinkers in the 18th and 19th centuries</li><li>33:35 - The Marxist and communist take on Spartacus</li><li>35:40 - 20th century novels: Koestler’s “The Gladiators” and Fast’s “Spartacus”</li><li>38:20 - Spartacus goes to Hollywood: Kirk Douglas’ 1960 film and Spartacus as social revolutionary</li><li>49:08 - A Spartacus for the 20th century: Andy Whitfield as Spartacus</li></ul><br/><p>51:05 - Wrap-up</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode—the final episode in a three-part series on gladiators—Emily and Cam focus on Spartacus, the most famous gladiator of all. They first discuss the causes of Spartacus’ rebellion against the Romans, and then explore how Spartacus has been represented in modern literature and film.</p><ul><li>Cover image: Vincenzo Vela, Spartacus (1848); photograph by Rama (Wikimedia commons)</li></ul><br/><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKCmyiljKo0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“I am Spartacus”</a>: an iconic scene from Kirk Douglas’ 1960 film</li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T481yh1KiY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pepsi’s “Spartacus” commercial</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4nPW69A8vo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“The Son of Spartacus”</a>: an unofficial 1962 sequel to the Kirk Douglas movie, starring Steve Reeves</li></ul><br/><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe and to find us on social media:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p></p><p>----------</p><p>00:10 - Introduction</p><p>01:11 - The sources: what can we know about Spartacus?</p><ul><li>01:27 - Plutarch, Appian, and their interest in Spartacus</li><li>02:17 - Sallust: the original source</li></ul><br/><p>02:58 - Spartacus: a basic biography</p><ul><li>03:05 - Spartacus' origin in Thrace, among the Maidi</li><li>03:16 - Spartacus' brief career as a Roman auxiliary and as a latro</li><li>03:49 - Spartacus enslaved and sold to the ludus of Lentulus Batiatus</li><li>04:44 - The gladiators escape from Batiatus’ ludus, seek refuge on Mount Vesuvius, and defeat several forces sent to suppress them</li><li>07:07 - As the rebellion gathers steam, Spartacus and his supporters drive north, and defeat three Roman armies along the way</li><li>10:04 - After Spartacus’ army turns south again, winning yet another major battle, the Romans entrust Crassus with the responsibility of ending the rebellion</li><li>11:49 - The Romans outmaneuver Spartacus and defeat the rebels</li></ul><br/><p>15:31 - Why did Spartacus and his supporters rebel?</p><ul><li>15:51 - Enslaved people and small-scale resistance</li><li>17:28 - What made large-scale rebellions so difficult</li><li>18:40 - Poor living conditions as a motivation for rebellion: gladiators, enslaved herdsmen, enslaved agricultural workers</li><li>21:16 - Poor prospects for winning manumission as a further motivation for rebellion</li><li>23:03 - Many of the rebels had been enslaved only recently and longed to reclaim their freedom</li></ul><br/><p>24:52 - What were Spartacus and his supporters attempting to accomplish?</p><ul><li>25:15 - To escape from Italy, or not? The sources and the problem of reconstructing Spartacus’ plans</li><li>27:01 - Modern approaches: (1) The sources had it right; (2) Spartacus had a larger agenda—whether to destroy the hegemony of Rome in Italy, or to end slavery</li><li>28:15 - A critique of these approaches, and an alternative: staying together was the best guarantee of freedom</li></ul><br/><p>31:16 - The ongoing resonance of Spartacus in modern literature, film, and television</p><ul><li>32:29 - The discovery of Spartacus by French and Italian thinkers in the 18th and 19th centuries</li><li>33:35 - The Marxist and communist take on Spartacus</li><li>35:40 - 20th century novels: Koestler’s “The Gladiators” and Fast’s “Spartacus”</li><li>38:20 - Spartacus goes to Hollywood: Kirk Douglas’ 1960 film and Spartacus as social revolutionary</li><li>49:08 - A Spartacus for the 20th century: Andy Whitfield as Spartacus</li></ul><br/><p>51:05 - Wrap-up</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://havetogawilltravel.com/episode/spartacus-in-fact-and-fiction]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">d3705c54-29ff-4b57-b4ea-abe74c43060b</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/855dbb26-d5ae-48c2-8b14-61b4508a2623/Vela-Spartacus.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2025 03:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/d3705c54-29ff-4b57-b4ea-abe74c43060b.mp3" length="50694268" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>52:48</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>6</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/40cde2f5-6c5f-4c59-ac34-45abbfefcb0b/index.html" type="text/html"/><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-3600261e-c4e5-4420-8f0c-3eed1a20368d.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>Roman Gladiator Games</title><itunes:title>Roman Gladiator Games</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode—the second of three on gladiators and related topics—Emily and Cam talk about what happened in the Colosseum and in other Roman arenas. First, they discuss the kinds of things that people would expect to see when they went to the games, including beast shows, public executions, and gladiator matches. Then, they focus on the gladiators themselves: who were they, and what were their lives like?</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zliten_mosaic" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Zliten mosaic (with pictures)</a></li><li><a href="https://pompeiiinpictures.com/pompeiiinpictures/Tombs/tombs%20nocen%20p3.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gladiator Graffiti near the Porta Nocera in Pompeii (scroll down toward bottom, to the section on tomb 14EN)</a></li><li><a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Milano_Stele_del_gladiatore_Urbico.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Image of the tombstone of Urbicus the Secutor</a></li></ul><br/><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe and to find us on social media:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p>----------</p><p>00:10 - Introduction</p><p>01:57 - The Games</p><ul><li>02:14 - Funeral games and the origins and development of gladiator combat</li><li>06:17 - The games in the age of the Colosseum</li><li>08:44 - Beast shows and hunters (venatores)</li><li>11:22 - Public punishments and spectacular executions</li><li>15:00 - Gladiator combat: gladiator graffiti from Pompeii and the excitement of the matched pair</li><li>19:52 - Mock battles, naval and otherwise, with a digression on Certamen players and the phrase “we who are about to die salute you”</li><li>23:13 - Keeping score: gladiator win-loss records, referees, and the possibility of survival</li><li>26:22 - An underdog story: the victories of Marcus Attilius at Nola</li><li>28:37 - Gladiators as celebrities (and sex symbols)</li></ul><br/><p>31:48 - The Gladiators: who were they, and what were their lives like?</p><ul><li>32:14 - Who fought as gladiators?</li><li>33:14 - Gladiator “schools” (ludi) and managers (lanistae)</li><li>37:02 - Gladiator cemeteries and what they tell us about living conditions (diet, injuries, life expectancy)</li><li>43:22 - Evidence from tombstones: why did free people fight as gladiators?</li><li>50:08 - Evidence from tombstones: the lives of enslaved gladiators </li></ul><br/><p>56:01 - Final Thoughts</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode—the second of three on gladiators and related topics—Emily and Cam talk about what happened in the Colosseum and in other Roman arenas. First, they discuss the kinds of things that people would expect to see when they went to the games, including beast shows, public executions, and gladiator matches. Then, they focus on the gladiators themselves: who were they, and what were their lives like?</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zliten_mosaic" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Zliten mosaic (with pictures)</a></li><li><a href="https://pompeiiinpictures.com/pompeiiinpictures/Tombs/tombs%20nocen%20p3.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gladiator Graffiti near the Porta Nocera in Pompeii (scroll down toward bottom, to the section on tomb 14EN)</a></li><li><a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Milano_Stele_del_gladiatore_Urbico.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Image of the tombstone of Urbicus the Secutor</a></li></ul><br/><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe and to find us on social media:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p>----------</p><p>00:10 - Introduction</p><p>01:57 - The Games</p><ul><li>02:14 - Funeral games and the origins and development of gladiator combat</li><li>06:17 - The games in the age of the Colosseum</li><li>08:44 - Beast shows and hunters (venatores)</li><li>11:22 - Public punishments and spectacular executions</li><li>15:00 - Gladiator combat: gladiator graffiti from Pompeii and the excitement of the matched pair</li><li>19:52 - Mock battles, naval and otherwise, with a digression on Certamen players and the phrase “we who are about to die salute you”</li><li>23:13 - Keeping score: gladiator win-loss records, referees, and the possibility of survival</li><li>26:22 - An underdog story: the victories of Marcus Attilius at Nola</li><li>28:37 - Gladiators as celebrities (and sex symbols)</li></ul><br/><p>31:48 - The Gladiators: who were they, and what were their lives like?</p><ul><li>32:14 - Who fought as gladiators?</li><li>33:14 - Gladiator “schools” (ludi) and managers (lanistae)</li><li>37:02 - Gladiator cemeteries and what they tell us about living conditions (diet, injuries, life expectancy)</li><li>43:22 - Evidence from tombstones: why did free people fight as gladiators?</li><li>50:08 - Evidence from tombstones: the lives of enslaved gladiators </li></ul><br/><p>56:01 - Final Thoughts</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://havetogawilltravel.com/episode/roman-gladiator-games]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">7b7217be-eaf1-478c-b0be-fd6af05b4468</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/5fe18a7a-fedb-4ee1-b099-e7283a7b1e56/P5110107.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2025 03:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/7b7217be-eaf1-478c-b0be-fd6af05b4468.mp3" length="54934046" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>57:13</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>5</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/fb83516a-a172-45e6-8f92-49a22bd19579/index.html" type="text/html"/><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-be367087-2d0f-4c41-8c91-9a56875362c7.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>The Roman Colosseum: Origins and Survival</title><itunes:title>The Roman Colosseum: Origins and Survival</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In the first of three episodes about gladiators in ancient Rome, Emily and Cam explore the world’s most iconic remnant of ancient gladiator games: the Roman Colosseum. They talk about the appearance of the building, then and now; the origins of the building as part of the emperor Vespasian’s effort to legitimize his power; and the cycles of destruction and renewal that produced the ruin that survives in Rome today.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe and to find us on social media:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p>----------</p><p><strong>00:10 - Introduction</strong></p><ul><li>00:23 - The Colosseum: an iconic remnant of ancient Rome and its gladiator games</li><li>00:57 - First impressions of the Colosseum in Rome from the exterior</li><li>03:31 - The Colosseum’s interior: the exhibit spaces in the upper ambulatory and the arena</li></ul><br/><p></p><p><strong>05:38 - The Colosseum as it was in ancient Rome</strong></p><ul><li>05:59 - The Colosseum, or the Flavian Amphitheatre?</li><li>06:58 - What’s an amphitheatre? A southern Italian innovation, influenced by Greek theaters</li><li>09:04 - The spread of amphitheatres in ancient Italy and elsewhere</li><li>10:05 - The Roman Colosseum in its heyday: its appearance, its structure, and its amenities</li></ul><br/><p></p><p><strong>16:08 – Why was the Colosseum built? Vespasian and the legitimacy of the Flavian dynasty</strong></p><ul><li>16:39 - Augustus and the legitimacy of imperial power</li><li>19:05 - The fall of Augustus’ dynasty and the rise of Vespasian</li><li>20:39 - Vespasian and the ideological importance of the Flavian Amphitheatre</li><li>22:47 - A digression on Nero and his murder of his mother, Agrippina</li></ul><br/><p></p><p><strong>26:06 - The survival of the Colosseum after antiquity: cycles of destruction and renewal</strong></p><ul><li>26:46 - Fires and earthquakes and flooding, oh my!</li><li>27:35 Fit for plunder: the Colosseum as a source of building materials</li><li>28:37 - Social, political, and economic transformations: the collapse of the Western Roman Empire and the decline of the Colosseum</li><li>30:17 - New Life in the 11th century: the palaces of the Frangipani and Annibaldi</li><li>31:15 - A loss of memory: did anyone remember what the Colosseum was for?</li><li>32:28 - Flavio Biondo and the “rediscovery” of the Colosseum</li><li>33:05 - The Catholic Church, the Italian government, and restoration</li></ul><br/><p></p><p><strong>33:54 - Final Thoughts and a meditation by the Venerable Bede</strong></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the first of three episodes about gladiators in ancient Rome, Emily and Cam explore the world’s most iconic remnant of ancient gladiator games: the Roman Colosseum. They talk about the appearance of the building, then and now; the origins of the building as part of the emperor Vespasian’s effort to legitimize his power; and the cycles of destruction and renewal that produced the ruin that survives in Rome today.</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe and to find us on social media:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p>----------</p><p><strong>00:10 - Introduction</strong></p><ul><li>00:23 - The Colosseum: an iconic remnant of ancient Rome and its gladiator games</li><li>00:57 - First impressions of the Colosseum in Rome from the exterior</li><li>03:31 - The Colosseum’s interior: the exhibit spaces in the upper ambulatory and the arena</li></ul><br/><p></p><p><strong>05:38 - The Colosseum as it was in ancient Rome</strong></p><ul><li>05:59 - The Colosseum, or the Flavian Amphitheatre?</li><li>06:58 - What’s an amphitheatre? A southern Italian innovation, influenced by Greek theaters</li><li>09:04 - The spread of amphitheatres in ancient Italy and elsewhere</li><li>10:05 - The Roman Colosseum in its heyday: its appearance, its structure, and its amenities</li></ul><br/><p></p><p><strong>16:08 – Why was the Colosseum built? Vespasian and the legitimacy of the Flavian dynasty</strong></p><ul><li>16:39 - Augustus and the legitimacy of imperial power</li><li>19:05 - The fall of Augustus’ dynasty and the rise of Vespasian</li><li>20:39 - Vespasian and the ideological importance of the Flavian Amphitheatre</li><li>22:47 - A digression on Nero and his murder of his mother, Agrippina</li></ul><br/><p></p><p><strong>26:06 - The survival of the Colosseum after antiquity: cycles of destruction and renewal</strong></p><ul><li>26:46 - Fires and earthquakes and flooding, oh my!</li><li>27:35 Fit for plunder: the Colosseum as a source of building materials</li><li>28:37 - Social, political, and economic transformations: the collapse of the Western Roman Empire and the decline of the Colosseum</li><li>30:17 - New Life in the 11th century: the palaces of the Frangipani and Annibaldi</li><li>31:15 - A loss of memory: did anyone remember what the Colosseum was for?</li><li>32:28 - Flavio Biondo and the “rediscovery” of the Colosseum</li><li>33:05 - The Catholic Church, the Italian government, and restoration</li></ul><br/><p></p><p><strong>33:54 - Final Thoughts and a meditation by the Venerable Bede</strong></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://havetogawilltravel.com/episode/the-roman-colosseum-origins-and-survival]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">a942c9f3-0ef4-46ed-8fab-778b2f6b1d6c</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/9372a980-aeef-4adf-bdb5-cd0c9bba9542/jNhp8UTMKQWYPMKts0908fiH.jpg"/><pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2025 03:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/a942c9f3-0ef4-46ed-8fab-778b2f6b1d6c.mp3" length="34637948" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>36:05</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>4</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/0e8d5d71-b6ec-42fe-9cde-a7778e5d7ba2/index.html" type="text/html"/><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-084dec34-b258-44b8-8857-b9024c4f1a44.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>Homer’s Odyssey on Film: “The Return”</title><itunes:title>Homer’s Odyssey on Film: “The Return”</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>“The Return” sticks the landing. Join Emily and Cam as they talk about how the movie adapts and builds on its source material, the Odyssey, to deliver a gripping modern interpretation of Homer’s timeless story.</p><p><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt19861162/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_in_0_q_the%2520return" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Return</a></p><ul><li>Released December 6, 2024</li><li>Starring Ralph Fiennes and Juliette Binoche</li><li>Directed by Uberto Pasolini</li></ul><br/><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe and to find us on social media:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p></p><p>----------</p><p>00:34 - Introduction: Pasolini’s movie, “The Return”</p><ul><li>00:47 - What makes a good movie adaptation of an ancient Greek epic like Homer’s Odyssey?</li></ul><br/><p></p><p>02:22 - A Summary of Homer’s Odyssey</p><ul><li>02:52 - The Telemachy</li><li>04:02 - From Calypso’s island to the island of the Phaeacians</li><li>04:39 - Odysseus’ narration of his adventures</li><li>05:51 - Odysseus’ return to Ithaka</li></ul><br/><p></p><p>06:56 - Our review of The Return</p><ul><li>07:06 - The film’s focus and nods to earlier parts of the Odyssey</li><li>08:50 - Familiar beats: Odysseus in disguise; Eumaeus, Argos, and Eurycleia; Penelope’s loom; the confrontation in the great hall</li><li>13:19 - Odysseus: a man traumatized by loss and violence</li><li>17:19 - Penelope: strong, clever, and determined</li><li>21:38 - Antinoos: a fresh take on a one-note villain</li><li>24:26 - Odysseus’ bow and the harsh reality of violence and revenge</li><li>30:44 - Resolution: Odysseus and Penlope together again, Telemachus seeks to find himself</li></ul><br/><p></p><p>33:08 - Final thoughts</p><ul><li>33:17 - Referencing Cacoyannis: the location, the cinematography, and the soundscape</li><li>34:22 - Overall impressions</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“The Return” sticks the landing. Join Emily and Cam as they talk about how the movie adapts and builds on its source material, the Odyssey, to deliver a gripping modern interpretation of Homer’s timeless story.</p><p><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt19861162/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_in_0_q_the%2520return" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Return</a></p><ul><li>Released December 6, 2024</li><li>Starring Ralph Fiennes and Juliette Binoche</li><li>Directed by Uberto Pasolini</li></ul><br/><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe and to find us on social media:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p></p><p>----------</p><p>00:34 - Introduction: Pasolini’s movie, “The Return”</p><ul><li>00:47 - What makes a good movie adaptation of an ancient Greek epic like Homer’s Odyssey?</li></ul><br/><p></p><p>02:22 - A Summary of Homer’s Odyssey</p><ul><li>02:52 - The Telemachy</li><li>04:02 - From Calypso’s island to the island of the Phaeacians</li><li>04:39 - Odysseus’ narration of his adventures</li><li>05:51 - Odysseus’ return to Ithaka</li></ul><br/><p></p><p>06:56 - Our review of The Return</p><ul><li>07:06 - The film’s focus and nods to earlier parts of the Odyssey</li><li>08:50 - Familiar beats: Odysseus in disguise; Eumaeus, Argos, and Eurycleia; Penelope’s loom; the confrontation in the great hall</li><li>13:19 - Odysseus: a man traumatized by loss and violence</li><li>17:19 - Penelope: strong, clever, and determined</li><li>21:38 - Antinoos: a fresh take on a one-note villain</li><li>24:26 - Odysseus’ bow and the harsh reality of violence and revenge</li><li>30:44 - Resolution: Odysseus and Penlope together again, Telemachus seeks to find himself</li></ul><br/><p></p><p>33:08 - Final thoughts</p><ul><li>33:17 - Referencing Cacoyannis: the location, the cinematography, and the soundscape</li><li>34:22 - Overall impressions</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://havetogawilltravel.com/episode/homers-odyssey-on-film-the-return]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">585d91e1-0e37-4707-8e5d-f1ec51d7ba92</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/c7db5ebb-bb77-4f10-a4fc-033d114baa99/jOeXe6NzoneMFigwvs6U1Zml.jpg"/><pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2025 03:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/585d91e1-0e37-4707-8e5d-f1ec51d7ba92.mp3" length="35089344" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>36:33</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>3</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/4611f129-d31a-490f-85f7-27fb537494de/index.html" type="text/html"/><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-8b832168-88bf-4e04-b074-56e64dac4916.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>The Athens Marathon, Part II: Walking the Marathon</title><itunes:title>The Athens Marathon, Part II: Walking the Marathon</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In Part Two of a two-part series on the Athens Marathon, Emily and Cam talk about what it’s like to participate in the Athens Marathon today. They discuss the first marathon race at the 1896 Olympic Games in Athens; the development of the marathon as a marquee sporting event; and the route of the contemporary Athens marathon.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/in-the-footsteps-of-the-marathonomachoi-walking-the-athens-marathon-part-i" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Part I of our photo essay on the Athens Marathon;</a></li><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/in-the-footsteps-of-the-marathonomachoi-walking-the-athens-marathon-part-ii" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Part II of our phot essay on the Athens Marathon;</a></li><li><a href="https://greekcitytimes.com/2024/11/19/73-year-old-cretan-runner-inspires-at-athens-marathon/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A report in the Greek Times about the 73-year-old Cretan runner, Idomeneas Avramakis.</a></li></ul><br/><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe and to find us on social media:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com/</a></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p>----------</p><p>00:12 - Introduction</p><p></p><p>01:04 - The First Modern Marathon</p><ul><li>01:11 - The early Olympic movement: de Coubertin, Bréal, and the push for a long-distance race</li><li>03:52 - Picking a route: the major routes from Marathon to Athens, in the ancient world and now (with a digression on the Athenian army in 490 BC and the walk of NGL Hammond)</li><li>08:28 - The first marathon: the achievements of Spyridon Louis and Stamata Revithi</li></ul><br/><p></p><p>12:40 - Going the distance: 26 miles, 385 yards</p><ul><li>13:07 - The impromptu conditions of early marathons</li><li>14:01 - Refinements at the 1906 intercalated games in Athens</li><li>14:49 - Setting the official distance at the 1921 IAAF Conference and the story of the 1908 London Olympics</li></ul><br/><p></p><p>17:34 - The “Authentic” Athens Marathon</p><ul><li>17:45 - The history of the Athens Marathon from 1955 to the present</li><li>18:37 - Following in the footsteps of Pheidippes, or footsteps of Grigoris Lambrakis?</li><li>19:49 - The first 8km: the Marathon plain, the ancient Tomb of the Athenians, and the enthusiasm of the spectators</li><li>21:30 - The next 10km: the road to Rafina, the statue of the Runners, and the lost statue of Pheidippides</li><li>23:56 - From 18km to 31km: “The Hill”, and the barefoot runner Idomeneas Avromakis</li><li>26:27 - The final 10km: the Attic Basin, the statue of the Runner, and the finish in the Panathenaic Stadium of Herodes Atticus</li></ul><br/><p></p><p>32:22 - Final Thoughts</p><ul><li>32:36 The road from Marathon: an ancient and historic route</li><li>32:58 - The ancient sanctuary of Tyche and a prayer for better days ahead</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Part Two of a two-part series on the Athens Marathon, Emily and Cam talk about what it’s like to participate in the Athens Marathon today. They discuss the first marathon race at the 1896 Olympic Games in Athens; the development of the marathon as a marquee sporting event; and the route of the contemporary Athens marathon.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/in-the-footsteps-of-the-marathonomachoi-walking-the-athens-marathon-part-i" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Part I of our photo essay on the Athens Marathon;</a></li><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/in-the-footsteps-of-the-marathonomachoi-walking-the-athens-marathon-part-ii" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Part II of our phot essay on the Athens Marathon;</a></li><li><a href="https://greekcitytimes.com/2024/11/19/73-year-old-cretan-runner-inspires-at-athens-marathon/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A report in the Greek Times about the 73-year-old Cretan runner, Idomeneas Avramakis.</a></li></ul><br/><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe and to find us on social media:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com/</a></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p>----------</p><p>00:12 - Introduction</p><p></p><p>01:04 - The First Modern Marathon</p><ul><li>01:11 - The early Olympic movement: de Coubertin, Bréal, and the push for a long-distance race</li><li>03:52 - Picking a route: the major routes from Marathon to Athens, in the ancient world and now (with a digression on the Athenian army in 490 BC and the walk of NGL Hammond)</li><li>08:28 - The first marathon: the achievements of Spyridon Louis and Stamata Revithi</li></ul><br/><p></p><p>12:40 - Going the distance: 26 miles, 385 yards</p><ul><li>13:07 - The impromptu conditions of early marathons</li><li>14:01 - Refinements at the 1906 intercalated games in Athens</li><li>14:49 - Setting the official distance at the 1921 IAAF Conference and the story of the 1908 London Olympics</li></ul><br/><p></p><p>17:34 - The “Authentic” Athens Marathon</p><ul><li>17:45 - The history of the Athens Marathon from 1955 to the present</li><li>18:37 - Following in the footsteps of Pheidippes, or footsteps of Grigoris Lambrakis?</li><li>19:49 - The first 8km: the Marathon plain, the ancient Tomb of the Athenians, and the enthusiasm of the spectators</li><li>21:30 - The next 10km: the road to Rafina, the statue of the Runners, and the lost statue of Pheidippides</li><li>23:56 - From 18km to 31km: “The Hill”, and the barefoot runner Idomeneas Avromakis</li><li>26:27 - The final 10km: the Attic Basin, the statue of the Runner, and the finish in the Panathenaic Stadium of Herodes Atticus</li></ul><br/><p></p><p>32:22 - Final Thoughts</p><ul><li>32:36 The road from Marathon: an ancient and historic route</li><li>32:58 - The ancient sanctuary of Tyche and a prayer for better days ahead</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://havetogawilltravel.com/episode/the-athens-marathon-part-ii]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">41c62eb4-b4df-4199-9ba7-fb9fa2f46539</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/2f3c2121-44ad-48e0-92d8-be966d796435/hiFH8bR0-tIprghnXTaoVAyZ.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2025 03:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/41c62eb4-b4df-4199-9ba7-fb9fa2f46539.mp3" length="35366033" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>36:50</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>2</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/92525cd4-fcda-4939-833d-6b82a391bfea/index.html" type="text/html"/><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-703493cf-8a1d-4582-b640-6d4151c6129d.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>The Athens Marathon, Part I: In the Footsteps of Pheidippides?</title><itunes:title>The Athens Marathon, Part I: In the Footsteps of Pheidippides?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In Part One of a two-part series on the Athens Marathon, Emily and Cam dive into ancient Greek legend and history as they explore the origins of the modern marathon race. They discuss the well-known story of the messenger (Pheidippides?) who is said to have run from Marathon to Athens with news of the Athenian victory over the Persians at Marathon in 490 BCE; the context of the Battle of Marathon itself; and the accomplishments of the Athenians, who were forced to race against the clock in order to return to their city and defend it from another Persian attack.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/in-the-footsteps-of-the-marathonomachoi-walking-the-athens-marathon-part-i" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Part I of our photo essay on the Athens Marathon;</a></li><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/in-the-footsteps-of-the-marathonomachoi-walking-the-athens-marathon-part-ii" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Part II of our phot essay on the Athens Marathon;</a></li></ul><br/><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe and to find us on social media:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com/</a></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p></p><p>----------</p><p>00:11- Introduction</p><ul><li>00:59 - Why do an episode about the Athens Marathon?</li><li>02:48 - The Origin Story: The Battle of Marathon and the Run of Pheidippides</li></ul><br/><p></p><p>05:11 - Is the Pheidippides story true?</p><ul><li>05:34 - The ancient traditions about Pheidipiddes’ run: Lucian, Plutarch, and Herakleides</li><li>08:48 - Herodotus on Pheidippides: the run from Athens to Sparta and back, and an epiphany along the way</li></ul><br/><p></p><p>12:34 - If the Pheidippides story isn’t true, why does it exist?</p><ul><li>13:09 - The Battle of Marathon offered fertile grounds for the development of legends.</li><li>13:59 - A battle against enormous odds: ancient Athens and the Persian Empire compared</li><li>16:24 - The Battle of Marathon as an existential struggle: Darius, Hippias, and the threat to Athenian democracy</li><li>20:30 - Marathon as an Athenian achievement (with a little help from the Plataians)</li><li>21:56 - Aeschylus’ tombstone: the impact of the Battle of Marathon on the ancient Athenian imagination</li></ul><br/><p></p><p>24:33 - In search of the real Marathon story: the desperate march back to Athens</p><ul><li>26:21 - The Battle of Marathon and its physical and mental toll</li><li>28:34 - The long march back: the race to save Athens</li></ul><br/><p></p><p>31:29 – Final thoughts: Ancient history and the modern marathon</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Part One of a two-part series on the Athens Marathon, Emily and Cam dive into ancient Greek legend and history as they explore the origins of the modern marathon race. They discuss the well-known story of the messenger (Pheidippides?) who is said to have run from Marathon to Athens with news of the Athenian victory over the Persians at Marathon in 490 BCE; the context of the Battle of Marathon itself; and the accomplishments of the Athenians, who were forced to race against the clock in order to return to their city and defend it from another Persian attack.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/in-the-footsteps-of-the-marathonomachoi-walking-the-athens-marathon-part-i" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Part I of our photo essay on the Athens Marathon;</a></li><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/in-the-footsteps-of-the-marathonomachoi-walking-the-athens-marathon-part-ii" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Part II of our phot essay on the Athens Marathon;</a></li></ul><br/><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe and to find us on social media:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com/</a></li></ul><br/><p>If you liked this episode, buy us a coffee:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/havetogawilltravel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Ko-Fi page</a></li></ul><br/><p></p><p>----------</p><p>00:11- Introduction</p><ul><li>00:59 - Why do an episode about the Athens Marathon?</li><li>02:48 - The Origin Story: The Battle of Marathon and the Run of Pheidippides</li></ul><br/><p></p><p>05:11 - Is the Pheidippides story true?</p><ul><li>05:34 - The ancient traditions about Pheidipiddes’ run: Lucian, Plutarch, and Herakleides</li><li>08:48 - Herodotus on Pheidippides: the run from Athens to Sparta and back, and an epiphany along the way</li></ul><br/><p></p><p>12:34 - If the Pheidippides story isn’t true, why does it exist?</p><ul><li>13:09 - The Battle of Marathon offered fertile grounds for the development of legends.</li><li>13:59 - A battle against enormous odds: ancient Athens and the Persian Empire compared</li><li>16:24 - The Battle of Marathon as an existential struggle: Darius, Hippias, and the threat to Athenian democracy</li><li>20:30 - Marathon as an Athenian achievement (with a little help from the Plataians)</li><li>21:56 - Aeschylus’ tombstone: the impact of the Battle of Marathon on the ancient Athenian imagination</li></ul><br/><p></p><p>24:33 - In search of the real Marathon story: the desperate march back to Athens</p><ul><li>26:21 - The Battle of Marathon and its physical and mental toll</li><li>28:34 - The long march back: the race to save Athens</li></ul><br/><p></p><p>31:29 – Final thoughts: Ancient history and the modern marathon</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://havetogawilltravel.com/episode/the-athens-marathon-part-i]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">682f07ef-d2a0-4aec-87f3-8d9d9ab6beea</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/70259bcd-1161-4703-9de8-cb91dd31c40b/nmi_wrvFmztwMup9ESeEU0Pr.jpg"/><pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2025 09:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/682f07ef-d2a0-4aec-87f3-8d9d9ab6beea.mp3" length="31969697" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>33:18</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>1</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/969e6938-ced3-45f6-8a20-96f103f00e2a/index.html" type="text/html"/><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-34b62dc7-b19d-4b66-a0d9-f3fbe15880da.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item></channel></rss>