International Enneagram Association Podcast

IEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.com

Join the email list: administration@internationalenneagram.org

Stephen Cunnell:

Web: stephenc.co.uk

Jason Chow:

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/jason-chow-62a264103

Web: carrborofamilyvision.net

Jill DePompei-Morales:

Web: 3deepcoaching.com

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/jill-depompei-morales-6311085

Raulin Morales:

Web: 3deepcoaching.com

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/raulin-morales-001759163

Seth "Creek" Creekmore:

Lindsey Marks:

Lee Fields:

Seth Abram:

Flemming Christensen:

The Enneagram Life Theme: flemmingchristensen.com/enneagram-life-theme.html

Book: “The Enneagram and why your blind type matters”

LinkedIn: Flemming Christensen

Humility, Curiosity and Gratitude with Russ Hudson

Thu, 19 Mar 2026 09:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Russ Hudson, author and one of the top teachers from The Enneagram Institute. We go beyond his prolific history with the Enneagram and learn more about Russ as a person. In this philosophical conversation, Russ shares how the core principles of humility, curiosity and gratitude can help us live a more conscious and kind life in the face of the difficulties that life inevitably brings us. He digs deep into what it means to be human and how the Enneagram ties with that so that we can cultivate more of our presence, create a safe space for other and build community.

Connect with us:

IEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.com

Join the email list: administration@internationalenneagram.org

Russ Hudson:

IEA Podcast Episode: Teacher Archive: Russ Hudson & Lynda Roberts of The Enneagram Institute

Seth "Creek" Creekmore:

Lindsey Marks:

Lee Fields:

Seth Abram:

Flemming Christensen:

The Enneagram Life Theme: flemmingchristensen.com/enneagram-life-theme.html

Book: “The Enneagram and why your blind type matters”

LinkedIn: Flemming Christensen

Story Booth: Michael Naylor, Aaron Manes & Patty Anderson

Thu, 05 Mar 2026 09:00:00 -0400

E66: Story Booth: Michael Naylor, Aaron Manes & Patty Anderson

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we listen to brief interviews with Michael Naylor, Aaron Manes and Patty Anderson. Michael reminisces on his first time attending the IEA Conference and shares what it’s like being an Enneagram Type Four. Aaron talks about his spiritual journey with the Enneagram and Patty discusses why she feels she can be the best person in the world if she simply loves herself.

Connect with us:

IG: https://www.instagram.com/aaronkmanes/

IEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.com

Join the email list: administration@internationalenneagram.org

Michael Naylor:

Web: enneagrammaine.com

IG: @enneagrammaine

FB: Michael Naylor

Aaron Manes:

Web: https://aaronmanes.com/

Seth "Creek" Creekmore:

Lindsey Marks:

Lee Fields:

Seth Abram:

Flemming Christensen:

The Enneagram Life Theme: flemmingchristensen.com/enneagram-life-theme.html

Book: “The Enneagram and why your blind type matters”

LinkedIn: Flemming Christensen

Overcoming your Money Monster through the Enneagram with Doug Lynam

Thu, 19 Feb 2026 09:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, Ahmad Wazir and Adelaida Harrison speak with Doug Lynam, an investment advisor and author of the book, “Taming Your Money Monster: 9 Paths to Money Mastery with the Enneagram.” Doug shares his motivation to help people heal their relationship with money through the lens of the Enneagram. He explains the framework he developed to help people with money and how knowing your Enneagram type helps us overcome the money monster that hinders our financial health.

Connect with us:

Book: Taming Your Money Monster: 9 Paths to Money Mastery with the Enneagram

IEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.com

Join the email list: administration@internationalenneagram.org

Doug Lynam:

Web: douglynam.com

Email: doug@douglynam.com

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/doug-lynam

YouTube: youtube.com/@douglynam

Facebook: facebook.com/monktomoneymanager

Ahmad Wazir:

IG: @ahmadwazir19

Pod: Totem Confidence

Adelaida Harrison:

Web: enneagramcenter.com.mx

Radio show: Eneagrama Conócete

Seth "Creek" Creekmore:

Lindsey Marks:

Lee Fields:

Seth Abram:

Flemming Christensen:

The Enneagram Life Theme: flemmingchristensen.com/enneagram-life-theme.html

Book: “The Enneagram and why your blind type matters”

LinkedIn: Flemming Christensen

StoryBooth: Mickey Scott-Bey Jones, Mario Sikora, Sam E. Greenburg, Lindsey Fraser, Stephanie Sundborg, & Julie Ellis

Thu, 05 Feb 2026 09:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we listen to storybooth interviews with Mickey Scott-Bey Jones, Mario Sikora, Sam E. Greenburg, Lyndsey Fraser, Stephanie Sundborg and Julie Ellis. Micky and Mario interview each other about their approach in teaching the Enneagram. Sam and Lyndsey talk about their friendship that goes beyond the Enneagram, and we hear about the working relationship between Stephanie and Julie.

Connect with us:

IEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.com

Join the email list: administration@internationalenneagram.org

Micky ScottBey Jones:

IG: @electric_lady_msj

Twitter: @iammickyjones

Web: mickyscottbeyjones.com

Pod: BRC & Friends

Mario Sikora:

TikTok: @mariosikora

Book: Awareness to Action: The Enneagram, Emotional Intelligence, and Change

Substack: mariosikora.substack.com

Book: How to Think Well, and Why: The Awareness to Action Guide to Clear Thinking

Sam E. Greenburg:

Web: enneagramsexpert.com

IG: @ennea_gasm

IG: @narrativeenneagram

Lyndsey Fraser:

Web: lyndseyfraser.com

IG: @lyndseyfraserlmft

FB: Lyndsey Fraser LMFT CST

Stephanie Sundborg:

Web: infinitecanvas.org

Julie Ellis:

Web: infinitecanvas.org

Seth "Creek" Creekmore:

Lindsey Marks:

Lee Fields:

Seth Abram:

Flemming Christensen:

The Enneagram Life Theme: flemmingchristensen.com/enneagram-life-theme.html

Book: “The Enneagram and why your blind type matters”

LinkedIn: Flemming Christensen

Teacher Archive: Mario Sikora of The Awareness to Action Enneagram

Thu, 22 Jan 2026 09:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Mario Sikora, an executive coach and pioneer of the practical application of the Enneagram. Mario has worked with global organizations and is the creator of the Awareness to Action Enneagram approach. We take a deep dive into Mario’s background with the Enneagram that expands to over 25 years. He shares what it was like to learn about the Enneagram in ‘90s without the internet and his early applications of the model that led to his direct and no nonsense approach he is known for.

Connect with us:

IEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.com

Join the email list: administration@internationalenneagram.org

Mario Sikora:

TikTok: @mariosikora

Book: Awareness to Action: The Enneagram, Emotional Intelligence, and Change

Substack: mariosikora.substack.com

Book: How to Think Well, and Why: The Awareness to Action Guide to Clear Thinking

Critical Thinking and Intelligence Analysis by David T. Moore

Seth "Creek" Creekmore:

Lindsey Marks:

Lee Fields:

Seth Abram:

Flemming Christensen:

The Enneagram Life Theme: flemmingchristensen.com/enneagram-life-theme.html

Book: “The Enneagram and why your blind type matters”

LinkedIn: Flemming Christensen

Story Booth: Jeanie Brandes, Scott & Clare Loughrige, Jerry Wagner & Kate Jackson

Thu, 08 Jan 2026 09:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we listen to story booth interviews with Jeanie Brandes, Scott and Clare Loughrige with Jerry Wagner and Kate Jackson. Jeanie shares her journey with the Enneagram and discusses the importance of community. We hear that it took Kate three years to determine her type, but the Enneagram has helped anchor herself during a crisis. Prolific Enneagram teacher Jerry shares why he teaches with humor while Scott and Clare, who have studied under him, reveal their deep gratitude to him.

Connect with us:

IEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.com

Join the email list: administration@internationalenneagram.org

Scott and Clare Loughrige:

Web: scottandclareloughrige.org

Pod: Enneagram and Christianity Podcast

FB: Enneagram Motions of the Soul

Dr Jerome Wagner:

Web: enneagramspe ctrum.com

Web: wepss.com

The Enneagram and the Individual: Psychology of Alfred Adler by Jerry Wagner

Kate Jackson:

Web: ensowellbeing.com

Web: enneagramrx.com

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kate-jackson

Seth "Creek" Creekmore:

Lindsey Marks:

Lee Fields:

Seth Abram:

Flemming Christensen:

The Enneagram Life Theme: flemmingchristensen.com/enneagram-life-theme.html

Book: “The Enneagram and why your blind type matters”

LinkedIn: Flemming Christensen

Mentioned in this episode:

Thanks to Evolving Enneagram for Sponsoring Today's Episode!

The Enneagram as a Model of Points with Flemming Christensen (Part 3)

Thu, 25 Dec 2025 09:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we continue our ongoing conversation with Flemming Christensen, founder and owner of Think About It and The Enneagram Institute of Denmark. Flemming dives more into his theory on the blind type and explores how we can use the Enneagram as a model of points, seeing qualities as skills that can be developed.

Connect with us:

IEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.com

Join the email list: administration@internationalenneagram.org

Seth "Creek" Creekmore:

Lindsey Marks:

Lee Fields:

Seth Abram:

Flemming Christensen:

The Enneagram Life Theme: flemmingchristensen.com/enneagram-life-theme.html

Book: “The Enneagram and why your blind type matters”

Flemming Christensen on Enneagram Blind Types and the Enneagram as a Way of Life

LinkedIn: Flemming Christensen

Previous IEA episodes with Flemming:

Using the Enneagram as a Mindset with Flemming Christensen (Part 2)

Mentioned in this episode:

Thanks to Evolving Enneagram for Sponsoring Today's Episode!

Story Booth: Sam Michel Kopterski, Doug Lyman, & Hillary Stark

Thu, 11 Dec 2025 09:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we listen to story booth conversations with Sam Michel Kopterski, Doug Lyman and Hillary Stark. These brief interviews explore their introduction to the Enneagram and how it has played in their professional and personal life. Sam discusses how the Enneagram helped her see her type patterns more clearly while Hillary shares how it brought some healing to her and her husband. We also hear how Doug went from the Marine Corps to becoming a monk to then becoming an investment advisor and author of the book, “Taming Your Money Monster: 9 Paths to Money Mastery with the Enneagram.”

Connect with us:

Book: Taming Your Money Monster: 9 Paths to Money Mastery with the Enneagram

IEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.com

Join the email list: administration@internationalenneagram.org

Doug Lyman:

Web: douglynam.com

Email: doug@douglynam.com

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/doug-lynam

YouTube: youtube.com/@douglynam

Facebook: facebook.com/monktomoneymanager

Seth "Creek" Creekmore:

Lindsey Marks:

Lee Fields:

Seth Abram:

Flemming Christensen:

The Enneagram Life Theme: flemmingchristensen.com/enneagram-life-theme.html

Book: “The Enneagram and why your blind type matters”

LinkedIn: Flemming Christensen

Mentioned in this episode:

Thanks to Evolving Enneagram for Sponsoring Today's Episode!

Teacher Archive: Jerry Wagner & Pat O'Leary | The Jesuit Lineage

Thu, 27 Nov 2025 09:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Dr. Jerome “Jerry” Wagner and Patrick O’Leary, two pioneers in the Enneagram field. Patrick is a founding member of the IEA and co-author of the first Enneagram book, and Jerry is the author of the “Enneagram Spectrum of Personality Styles: an Introductory Guide” and an honorary founder of the IEA. This conversation dives into the rich history of the Enneagram as a tool, a model and an organization through these teachers’ individual and collective stories.

Connect with us:

IEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.com

Join the email list: administration@internationalenneagram.org

Dr Jerome Wagner:

Web: enneagramspe ctrum.com

Web: wepss.com

Patrick O’Leary:

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/patrick-h-o-leary-5b928760

Seth "Creek" Creekmore:

Lindsey Marks:

Lee Fields:

Seth Abram:

Flemming Christensen:

The Enneagram Life Theme: flemmingchristensen.com/enneagram-life-theme.html

Book: “The Enneagram and why your blind type matters”

LinkedIn: Flemming Christensen

Mentioned in this episode:

Thanks to Evolving Enneagram for Sponsoring Today's Episode!

Story Booth with Lindsay Bailey, Mateo Myrvik, Josie Shardlow, Jeannine Myrvik, & Nikki Meyers

Thu, 13 Nov 2025 09:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we listen to brief conversations with Lindsay Bailey, Mateo Myrvik, Josie Shardlow, Jeannine Myrvik and Nikki Meyers. Lindsay shares how the Enneagram helps her understand her husband, while Mateo, Josie and Jeannine share how the Enneagram plays a role in their family life. Nikki talks about her experience as a first time attendee to the conference and some memories from training by Dr Jerome “Jerry” Wagner.

Connect with us:

IEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.com

Join the email list: administration@internationalenneagram.org

Lindsay Bailey:

Web: rootedcultures.com

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/enneagramlindsay

Josie Shardlow:

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/josieshardlow

Jeannine Myrvik:

Web: jeanninemyrviklicsw.com

Nikki Meyer:

Web: createjoytravel.com

IG: @nikkipuravidacd

Seth "Creek" Creekmore:

Lindsey Marks:

Lee Fields:

Seth Abram:

Flemming Christensen:

The Enneagram Life Theme: flemmingchristensen.com/enneagram-life-theme.html

Book: “The Enneagram and why your blind type matters”

LinkedIn: Flemming Christensen

Teacher Archive: Christopher Copeland & Renée Rosario from The Narrative Enneagram

Thu, 30 Oct 2025 09:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Renée Rosario and Christopher T. Copeland from the Narrative Enneagram. Renée and Christopher share their history with the Enneagram and how it led them to work at the Narrative Enneagram where they became colleagues and friends. More importantly, they reflect on their trips of walking Camino de Santiago together where they developed their deep friendship, which is present throughout the conversation.

Connect with us:

IEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.com

Join the email list: administration@internationalenneagram.org

Renée Rosario:

Web: enneasight.com

Christopher T. Copeland:

Web: illuminatingpaths.com

Pod: Heart of the Enneagram

Seth "Creek" Creekmore:

Lindsey Marks:

Lee Fields:

Seth Abram:

Flemming Christensen:

The Enneagram Life Theme: flemmingchristensen.com/enneagram-life-theme.html

Book: “The Enneagram and why your blind type matters”

LinkedIn: Flemming Christensen

Story Booth with Rosemary Hurwitz, Demetrius Parker & The Engagement Committee

Thu, 16 Oct 2025 09:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we hear brief conversations with Rosemary Hurwitz, Demetrius Parker and The Engagement Committee that consists of Linda Meffert, Sarah McMahill, Roland Legge and Nancy Markow. Rosemary and Demetrius share their origin story with the Enneagram and reflect on the Enneagram community today. We also learn how the Engagement Committee helps the people connect with each other at the conference and their motivation to do this work.

Connect with us:

IEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.com

Join the email list: administration@internationalenneagram.org

Rosemary Hurwitz:

Web: spiritdrivenliving.com

Demetrius Parker:

Web: enneagrammba.com

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/demetriusparker

Linda Meffert:

Web: mycoffeecoach.com

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/lindabrewstermeffert

Sarah McMahill:

Web: sarahmc.net

Roland Legge:

Web: relconsultants.com

Nancy Markow:

Web: connectingyouwithyourself.com

Seth "Creek" Creekmore:

Lindsey Marks:

Lee Fields:

Seth Abram:

Flemming Christensen:

The Enneagram Life Theme: flemmingchristensen.com/enneagram-life-theme.html

Book: “The Enneagram and why your blind type matters”

LinkedIn: Flemming Christensen

Teacher Archive: Russ Hudson & Lynda Roberts of The Enneagram Institute

Thu, 02 Oct 2025 09:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Russ Hudson and Lynda Roberts of The Enneagram Institute. We hear these two longtime friends and colleagues interact as they share their personal history with the Enneagram. We learn the vast differences that led them to become some of the founding members of the Enneagram. Russ talks about the creation of the IEA and becoming the first vice president for the organization. Lynda reveals some of the things that influence how she engages in the Enneagram, such as her time as a high school math teacher. With their origin stories dating back over 25 years, they discuss how the Enneagram community has evolved over time.

Connect with us:

IEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.com

Join the email list: administration@internationalenneagram.org

Russ Hudson:

Lynda Roberts:

Seth "Creek" Creekmore:

Lindsey Marks:

Lee Fields:

Seth Abram:

Flemming Christensen:

The Enneagram Life Theme: flemmingchristensen.com/enneagram-life-theme.html

Book: “The Enneagram and why your blind type matters”

LinkedIn: Flemming Christensen

Mentioned in this episode:

Story Booth with Laura Lentz, Nancy Irish, Joey Jacob and Steven Jacob

Thu, 18 Sep 2025 09:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we listen to storybooth interviews from Laura Lentz, Nancy Irish, Dr. Steven Jacob and Joey Jacob. These vignettes recorded at the 2025 IEA Experience present human stories from the dynamic Enneagram community. We hear what drew these four to the Enneagram and how it transformed their lives. Laura talks about her experience as a returning attendee while Nancy shares her hopes to make connections within the Enneagram community during her first time at the conference. Joey and Jacob chat with each other about the Enneagram, sharing their personal connection with Russ Hudson, an Enneagram pioneer and Joey’s brother.

Connect with us:

Web: internationalenneagram.org/find-a/professional/professional-teachers/#!biz/id/686ffa2b9933bc9d58036b29

IEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.com

Join the email list: administration@internationalenneagram.org

Laura Lentz:

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/laura-lentz-5a207b14

Dr. Steven Jacob and Joey Jacob:

Web: healthoptionsct.com

Web: joeyjacob.com

Nancy Irish:

Seth "Creek" Creekmore:

Lindsey Marks:

Lee Fields:

Seth Abram:

Flemming Christensen:

LinkedIn: Flemming Christensen

Mentioned in this episode:

Teacher Archives: Suzanne Stabile

Thu, 04 Sep 2025 09:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, Seth “Creek” Creekmore, Lee Fields, Lindsey Marks and Seth Abram speak with Suzanne Stabile, an internationally recognized Enneagram Master who has conducted over 500 Enneagram workshops for over 30 years. As a first time attendee at the IEA Experience, Suzanne was one of the Enneagram Pioneers that participated in the Keynote Panel along with Russ Hudson, Anne Mureé and Micky ScottBey Jones. Suzanne is joined on this episode by her husband and son, Joe and Joel, as they reveal their story with the Enneagram–how they learned about it and has become woven in their lives. Drawing from her personal experiences, we hear why her unique and practical approach through storytelling is why she is such an influential voice in the Enneagram community.

Connect with us:

IEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.com

Join the email list: administration@internationalenneagram.org

Suzanne Stabile:

Web: suzannestabile.com

Web: lifeinthetrinityministry.com

IG: @suzannestabile

Pod: theenneagramjourney.org

Seth "Creek" Creekmore:

Lindsey Marks:

Lee Fields:

Seth Abram:

Flemming Christensen:

The Enneagram Life Theme: flemmingchristensen.com/enneagram-life-theme.html

Book: “The Enneagram and why your blind type matters”

LinkedIn: Flemming Christensen

Mentioned in this episode:

IEA Enneagram Experience '25 Introduction

Thu, 21 Aug 2025 09:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, Seth “Creek” Creekmore, Lee Fields, Lindsey Marks and Seth Abram unpack their experience from the recent Enneagram Experience 2025. With the conference based around experience, they capture the human side of the legends and luminaries of the Enneagram community, including Suzanne Stabile, Russ Hudson, Dr. Jerry Wagner and Patrick O'Leary, highlighting more of who they are and how they relate as people rather than solely focusing on their contribution to the Enneagram. They also facilitated shorter conversational interviews with attendees at the conference that will also be shared in future episodes.

Connect with us:

IEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.com

Join the email list: administration@internationalenneagram.org

IEA Conference Proposal Submission Information & Guidelines: internationalenneagram.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/2025-Proposal-Submission-Information-Guidelines.pdf

IEA Global Podcast Proposal Submission Form: forms.gle/Q48QXSwQ3zDfDJaJA

Seth "Creek" Creekmore:

Lindsey Marks:

Lee Fields:

Seth Abram:

Aephoria Partners:

Mentioned in this episode:

Igniting Change through the Enneagram with Chichi Agorom

Thu, 07 Aug 2025 09:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we listen to the Endnote presentation by Chichi Agorom from the IEA Global Conference in 2023. Chichi is a certified Enneagram teacher and practitioner, Associate Faculty with the Narrative Enneagram, and holds a Master of Arts in Clinical Mental Health Counseling and a Post-Master's Certificate in Marriage and Family Therapy. Drawing from the theme of the conference–Unite and Ignite–she discusses how the Enneagram can be used as a tool for our collective liberation, drawing from her book, “The Enneagram for Black Liberation.” She explores how motivation behind our behavior and context–social, race, gender, social economics, religion, etc, that impact how we see ourselves and other people–are important for our inner work.

Connect with us:

IEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.com

Join the email list: administration@internationalenneagram.org

IEA Conference Proposal Submission Information & Guidelines: internationalenneagram.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/2025-Proposal-Submission-Information-Guidelines.pdf

IEA Global Podcast Proposal Submission Form: forms.gle/Q48QXSwQ3zDfDJaJA

Chichi Agorom:

Web: chichiagorom.com

Book: The Enneagram for Black Liberation

IG: @theenneagramforblackliberation

Aephoria Partners:

Mentioned in this episode:

Using the Enneagram as a Mindset with Flemming Christensen (Part 2)

Thu, 17 Jul 2025 09:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, Seth “Creek” Creekmore and Ahmad Wazir continue their conversation with Flemming Christensen, founder and owner of Think About It and The Enneagram Institute of Denmark. They talk more about his book, “The Enneagram and why your blind type matters,” and his approach to the Enneagram. He highlights shadow work, which illuminates what we are not aware of about ourselves, and explores it within each Enneagram type. He also discusses the distinction between primary type and blind type.

Connect with us:

IEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.com

Join the email list: administration@internationalenneagram.org

IEA Conference Proposal Submission Information & Guidelines: internationalenneagram.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/2025-Proposal-Submission-Information-Guidelines.pdf

IEA Global Podcast Proposal Submission Form: forms.gle/Q48QXSwQ3zDfDJaJA

Flemming Christensen:

The Enneagram Life Theme: flemmingchristensen.com/enneagram-life-theme.html

Book: “The Enneagram and why your blind type matters”

LinkedIn: Flemming Christensen

Seth "Creek" Creekmore:

Ahmad Wazir:

IG: @ahmadwazir19

Pod: Totem Confidence

Aephoria Partners:

Mentioned in this episode:

Connect with Flemming on LinkedIn

Flemming Christensen on Enneagram Blind Types and the Enneagram as a Way of Life

Tue, 15 Jul 2025 09:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, Seth “Creek” Creekmore and Ahmad Wazir speak with Flemming Christensen, founder and owner of THINK ABOUT IT and The Enneagram Institute of Denmark, about his work with the Enneagram. In this first part of the conversation, we get to know Flemming as he shares stories from his early career, the loss of loved ones, and his discovery of what he calls the “blind type.”

Enneagram Trainings

Throughout the conversation, Flemming reflects on how his relationship with the Enneagram has evolved - from using it as a tool for consulting to embracing it as a mindset and spiritual practice. He also describes how his Zen Buddhist training has shaped his understanding of presence, awareness, and the deeper purpose of self-inquiry.

Highlights from the episode include:

1. The Blind Enneagram Type

Flemming introduces the concept of the blind type—the type whose qualities we resist, ignore, or reject. He describes how discovering his own blind type transformed his relationships, softened his leadership style, and opened new dimensions in his teaching.

Listen to the second episode with Flemming Christensen

2. Cultural Perspectives on Growth and Teaching

Flemming shares insights gained from working with Enneagram students from diverse cultural backgrounds. From Denmark to Egypt and the United States, he reflects on how cultural values such as equality, authority, and co-creation shape how people learn, teach, and engage in personal development.

3. The Enneagram as a Mindset

Rather than viewing the Enneagram as just a personality tool, Flemming describes it as a mindset for living. Influenced by Buddhist psychology, he explains how the Enneagram can support presence, surrender, and the capacity to meet life as it is.

Tune in for a thoughtful conversation about depth, loss, integration, and what it means to live an Enneagram-informed life.

Connect with us:

IEA Website

IEA Global Podcast Proposal Submission Form.

Mentioned in this episode:

Archetype and Imagery in the Enneagram (Part 2)

Thu, 03 Jul 2025 09:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we continue listening to Gina Thomas’s presentation about her study that studies the archetypes and their connections with the Enneagram. Gina is an Enneagram teacher who bridges the field with depth psychology, which studies myth, dream and symbol as a way to understand the psyche and she conducted four interviews with 13 focus groups, asking the participants to illustrate their type. She explores the transcendent function for Enneagram Types Six, Three and Four by interpreting each participant’s drawings.

Connect with us:

IEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.com

Join the email list: administration@internationalenneagram.org

IEA Conference Proposal Submission Information & Guidelines: internationalenneagram.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/2025-Proposal-Submission-Information-Guidelines.pdf

IEA Global Podcast Proposal Submission Form: forms.gle/Q48QXSwQ3zDfDJaJA

Gina Thomas:

Study: Archetype and Imagery in the Enneagram

Aephoria Partners:

Archetype and Imagery in the Enneagram

Thu, 19 Jun 2025 09:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we listen to a presentation by Gina Thomas, MA, an Enneagram teacher who bridges the field with depth psychology, which studies myth, dream and symbol as a way to understand the psyche. Gina talks about her study that studies archetypes and their connections with the Enneagram through her four interviews with 13 focus groups. She initially focused on Enneagram Types Three, Six and Nine for her master’s thesis and then continued her research on the remaining types after she received her degree. She shares the imagery she asked the participants to create to illustrate their type as a result of their facilitated conversations.

Connect with us:

IEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.com

Join the email list: administration@internationalenneagram.org

IEA Conference Proposal Submission Information & Guidelines: internationalenneagram.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/2025-Proposal-Submission-Information-Guidelines.pdf

IEA Global Podcast Proposal Submission Form: forms.gle/Q48QXSwQ3zDfDJaJA

Gina Thomas:

Study: Archetype and Imagery in the Enneagram

Aephoria Partners:

The Passions with Lisa Morrice (Part 2)

Thu, 05 Jun 2025 09:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we continue Lisa Morrice’s discussion about the passions by looking at the qualities from the thinking center. This center is about being present in our mind and having the awareness to be mentally still and receptive to insight, intuition and not knowing. Lisa talks about three ways the essential qualities of this center can manifest when they’re present and also the four principles for transforming the passions.

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The Passions with Lisa Morrice

Thu, 22 May 2025 09:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we listen to a talk from Lisa Morrice about the passions—a recurring emotional pattern associated with our personality types. When we’re not aware of them, they run us pretty much all the time, making us forget ourselves on a fundamental level. Lisa explains how it helps to understand the passions from the three centers by looking at the qualities. She also discusses how the passions play out in each type.

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A Preview of IEA Enneagram Experience 2025

Thu, 08 May 2025 09:00:00 -0400

In this special collaborative episode with the IEA Podcast, Do It for The Gram and Fathoms, Milton Stewart, Seth “Creek” Creekmore, Lindsey Marks and Lee Fields preview the upcoming IEA Enneagram Experience 2025 - Global Conference and Celebration. All four hosts will be in attendance, so they share what they are looking forward to at this summer’s annual event while also reflecting on this year’s theme — 30 years honoring Enneagram pioneers and future frontiers.

The Fathoms team will continue to host the IEA podcast with the traditional long form interviews with legendary figures as well as collect personal stories from attendees to deeply humanize this work. In their current Season Five, Fathoms has been focusing on the history of the Enneagram from the perspective of different schools and models to get a fuller picture of how they’ve come into this tool, providing an important and better framework and grounding before the conference.

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Web: Upcoming Events

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Mindfulness and the Enneagram with Renee Rosario (Part 2)

Thu, 24 Apr 2025 09:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we continue Renee Rosario’s conversation about using mindfulness with the Enneagram, which is a great tool to open us up to greater wisdom and help us make better choices. Renee invites two people from each center—heart, head and body—to share what they bring to inner practice and what challenges them.

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Mindfulness and the Enneagram with Renee Rosario

Thu, 10 Apr 2025 09:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we listen to a talk from Renee Rosario about using mindfulness with the Enneagram to gain greater clarity with what’s happening inside. Mindfulness is a great tool to transform things and opens us up to greater wisdom. Renee explains the three skills that are essential to mindfulness—concentration, sensory clarity and equanimity—and how this can help us make better choices and develop new pathways before leading the group in an inner practice. She then invites a panel consisting of two people from each center—heart, head and body—to share what they noticed when they work with mindfulness and their bodies.

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Alfred Adler’s Individual Psychology and the Enneagram

Thu, 27 Mar 2025 09:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we listen to a talk from IEA Conference 2009 by Dr Jerome “Jerry” Wagner about Alfred Adler, founder of the school of individual psychology. Jerry explains Adler’s theory that emphasizes on the uniqueness of each person and social dimensions, comparing it to Freud, and its relevance with the Enneagram.

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Dr Jerome Wagner:

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Web: wepss.com

The Enneagram and the Individual: Psychology of Alfred Adler by Jerry Wagner

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Exploring of the Instincts and Subtypes (Part 5)

Thu, 13 Mar 2025 09:00:00 -0400

This episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast is another part of the multi-type series about instincts, instinctual biases and subtypes with well-known teachers–Beatrice Chestnut, Russ Hudson, Peter O’Hanrahan and Mario Sikora. They focus on answering audience questions on topics such as the three centers and levels of development. The four instructors also share personal experiences with their dominant instinct and what they’ve learned about themselves from this series.

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Pod: Enneagram 2.0 with Beatrice Chestnut and Uranio Paes

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TikTok: @mariosikora

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Leslie Hershberger:

Curt Micka:

Web: curtmicka.com

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Exploring of the Instincts and Subtypes (Part 4)

Thu, 27 Feb 2025 09:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we continue the multi-type series about instincts, instinctual biases and subtypes with well-known teachers–Beatrice Chestnut, Russ Hudson, Peter O’Hanrahan and Mario Sikora. This week, they provide a practical example as they conduct 20-minute typing interviews with volunteers who are unsure of their dominant instinctual subtype, asking questions to help provide additional clarity.

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Pod: Enneagram 2.0 with Beatrice Chestnut and Uranio Paes

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TikTok: @mariosikora

Peter O'Hanrahan:

Leslie Hershberger:

Curt Micka:

Web: curtmicka.com

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Exploring of the Instincts and Subtypes (Part 3)

Thu, 13 Feb 2025 09:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we continue the multi-type series about instincts, instinctual biases and subtypes with well-known teachers–Beatrice Chestnut, Russ Hudson, Peter O’Hanrahan and Mario Sikora. Mario discusses the Awareness to Action approach to instinctual biases, which is considered unconventional, and why he sees three specific patterns instead of six. The four teachers also answer questions from the audience regarding the subtypes and countertypes.

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Beatrice Chestnut:

Pod: Enneagram 2.0 with Beatrice Chestnut and Uranio Paes

Russ Hudson:

Mario Sikora:

TikTok: @mariosikora

Peter O'Hanrahan:

Leslie Hershberger:

Curt Micka:

Web: curtmicka.com

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Exploring of the Instincts and Subtypes (Part 2)

Thu, 30 Jan 2025 09:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we continue the discussion about the instincts, instinctual biases and subtypes with well-known teachers–Beatrice Chestnut, Russ Hudson, Peter O’Hanrahan and Mario Sikora. Each brings their own perspectives as they explore how they think about these subjects and the terms they use to describe the differences between instincts and subtypes. They also explain how they work with the development of all three instincts.

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Pod: Enneagram 2.0 with Beatrice Chestnut and Uranio Paes

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Mario Sikora:

TikTok: @mariosikora

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Exploring of the Instincts and Subtypes (Part 1)

Thu, 16 Jan 2025 09:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we listen to a discussion with four well-known teachers–Beatrice Chestnut, Russ Hudson, Peter O’Hanrahan and Mario Sikora–about the instincts and instinctual biases, subtypes and how those apply to our lives. This exploration will help us understand how these four teachers view and think about the instincts and subtypes so that we can further explore and refine our own understanding of ours. Over the next few episodes, we will share bits of this conversation, starting with each teacher sharing their personal journey with the instincts.

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Beatrice Chestnut:

Pod: Enneagram 2.0 with Beatrice Chestnut and Uranio Paes

Russ Hudson:

Mario Sikora:

TikTok: @mariosikora

Peter O'Hanrahan:

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The Vice to Virtue transformation with Helen Palmer (Part 2)

Thu, 02 Jan 2025 09:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we continue the discussion by Helen Palmer, a teacher of psychology and intuition, from the 2005 archives. Helen talks about the inner witness, the inner observer and the conversion from Vice to Virtue–a contemplative method that helps us recognize our own psychological patterns. She includes actual practices throughout the talk to guide us to dissolve negative emotions rather than act them out.

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The Vice to Virtue transformation with Helen Palmer

Thu, 19 Dec 2024 09:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we reach into the 2005 archives to share the first part of a discussion from Helen Palmer, a teacher of psychology and intuition, about the inner observer and inner witness and the conversion from Vice to Virtue. This contemplative method helps us recognize their own psychological patterns, so that we can shift our awareness into the several interior states that are available to ordinary people like ourselves. This conversation is a timely reminder on the importance of doing the deep and hard work to continue to grow and mature and become a more adaptable, and compassionate human.

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A Meditation for the Embodied Enneagram

Thu, 05 Dec 2024 09:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, Marion Gilbert leads a meditation for the Embodied Enneagram. As we start the last month of 2024, take this moment to relax and reconnect with your mind, heart and body.

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The Embodied Enneagram with Peter O’Hanrahan and Marion Gilbert

Thu, 21 Nov 2024 09:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we reach into the 2007 archives to share this session by Peter O’Hanrahan, an Enneagram teacher and trainer since 1978, and Marion Gilbert, an R.P.T. who has been practicing physical therapy since 1978. Peter and Marion talk about the Embodied Enneagram, a holistic view of people and personality type, and the three center approach to the Enneagram–mind, heart and body. They also lead in some breathing and stretching exercises.

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Is it Good to Speak of Higher Consciousness? with Fr. Richard Rohr

Thu, 07 Nov 2024 09:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we pull from the archive to listen to a conference talk by Fr. Richard Rohr in 2006. Father Richard, a Franciscan friar and ecumenical teacher, talks in his endnote about the transformational work of the Enneagram and the notion of higher consciousness. He explores if the Enneagram is a private spirituality or if there are any social or political directions.

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Richard Rohr:

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X: @RichardRohrOFM

Book: The Enneagram: A Christian Perspective

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Attachment Theory in the Enneagram (Part 2)

Thu, 24 Oct 2024 09:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we continue listening to the talk by Dr. Dan Siegel and the late Dr. David Daniels about attachment theory–the importance of seeking closeness between infants and their parents–in the Enneagram. They speak to a group of parents and have them describe each Enneagram type’s parenting style based on small group work, their strengths and weaknesses, and at times asking them about their specific family situations.

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Attachment Theory in the Enneagram

Thu, 10 Oct 2024 09:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we pull from the archives and listen to a talk from 2005 by Dr. Dan Siegel and the late Dr. David Daniels about the attachment theory in the Enneagram. Attachment theory is the importance of seeking closeness to another human, in this case, the early relationships between infants and their parents. Dr. Daniels and Dr. Siegel discusses the attachment styles within this theory—a topic that has grown in popularity–and how it works with the different Enneagram types.

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The Psychic Structures with Russ Hudson and Don Richard Riso (Part 2)

Thu, 26 Sep 2024 09:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we continue the talk by Russ Hudson and the late Don Richard Riso about psychic structures from the IEA Global Conference in 1994. Psychic structures are the schematic models that help us visualize the dynamics for each Enneagram type, and Russ and Don use Enneagram Types Six and Nine as examples.

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The Psychic Structures with Russ Hudson and Don Richard Riso (Part 1)

Thu, 12 Sep 2024 09:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we dig into the archives and present a talk by Russ Hudson and the late Don Richard Riso from the first IEA Global Conference in 1994. With the theme for this year’s conference being “Honoring Pioneers and Future Frontiers,” we hear from some of the founders as they discuss psychic structures, the schematic models that help us visualize the dynamics for each Enneagram type. In this first part of the talk, Russ and Don start with Enneagram Type Three.

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IEA Conference 2025!

Thu, 29 Aug 2024 05:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, Adelaida Harrison, Seth "Creek" Creekmore, Milton Stewart and Patrick Simonsen talk about the 2025 IEA Global Conference, which will take place July 25-27 in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Milton, Conference Chair, previews what to expect as IEA celebrates 30 years with this year’s theme, “Honoring Pioneers and Future Frontiers,” and the opportunities to connect with others around the Enneagram.

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Adelaida Harrison:

Web: enneagramcenter.com.mx

Radio show: Eneagrama Conócete

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Milton Stewart:

Patrick Simonsen:

Web: nordiccoach.dk

Web: IEA Denmark

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The Role of the Enneagram in Business with Karl Hebenstreit

Thu, 15 Aug 2024 09:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, Patrick Simonsen, from IEA Denmark, speaks with Karl Hebenstreit, an executive coach, author, speaker, leadership/team/organization development consultant with more than 25 years of experience. Karl talks about his books, starting with his most recent, Explicit Expectations: The Essential Guide & Toolkit of Management Fundamentals, that explores why we should treat others the way they want to be treated, rather than how we want to be treated. It also discusses how the Enneagram can develop from the Golden Rule to the Platinum Rule which can be integrated towards a more robust world. Karl also talks about his children’s book, Nina & The Really, Really Tough Decision, which gives an introduction to the Enneagram through the lens of decision making and his other book, The How and Why: Taking Care of Business with the Enneagram, which shares how leaders can improve their leadership skills through the Enneagram.

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Book: Explicit Expectations: The Essential Guide & Toolkit of Management Fundamentals

Karl Hebenstreit:

Web: performandfunction.com

Book: The How and Why: Taking Care of Business with the Enneagram

Book: Nina & The Really, Really Tough Decision

Patrick Simonsen:

Web: nordiccoach.dk

Web: IEA Denmark

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A Tool for Growth with Sandra Maitri (Part 2)

Thu, 01 Aug 2024 09:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we share the second part of Sandra Maitri’s talk from 2017 about using the Enneagram as a tool for growth. Sandra talks more in depth about the practice of inquiry to question our basic assumptions for each Enneagram type. Each Enneagram type has fundamental qualities and reactive tendencies to our behavioral problems. Sandra shares why we need to be present with all three centers of intelligence so that we can inquiry effectively.

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A Tool for Growth with Sandra Maitri (Part 1)

Thu, 18 Jul 2024 09:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we pull from our 2017 archives to feature a talk by Sandra Maitri about the history of the Enneagram and how to understand the Enneagram as a tool for growth that describes a pattern our consciousness takes. In this first part of her talk, Sandra talks about her experience with the Enneagram to remind us that it is a map but doesn’t tell you how to travel the territory, but rather teaches us how to work with our ego structure, rather than move beyond it.

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The Centers of Intelligence with Leslie Hershberger (Part 2)

Thu, 04 Jul 2024 11:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we present the second half of Leslie Hershberger’s presentation on her approach to the centers. She shares an excerpt from a panel that explores the heart center and its core function of doing as well as discusses the body center and its dominant function of feelings. She also gives tips on how to pay attention to your patterns and all three centers.

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The Centers of Intelligence with Leslie Hershberger (Part 1)

Thu, 20 Jun 2024 05:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we take a break from our usual content and share some archival discussions from conferences and what we think is a great fit. This week is the first part of Leslie Hershberger’s presentation on her unique approach to the centers. She walks us through her research project that studies the centers and understands the functions for the different centers and conducts an experiment for us to learn how we experience ourselves and other people.

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20: Sparks of Great Ideas and Innovations with Milton Stewart

Thu, 06 Jun 2024 05:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Milton Stewart, founder of Kaizen Careers, Coaching and Consulting LLC and creator of the podcast "Do It For the Gram: An Enneagram Podcast." As a member of the IEA Global Board of Directors, Milton shares his thoughts on the IEA Conference compared to previous years, reflecting on some of his favorite moments. He also discusses what’s next for the global community as they interweave these sparks of great ideas and innovations to grow and do better.

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IG: @doitforthegrampodcast

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19: What I Wish People Would Have Told Me with Vanessa Fernandez

Thu, 23 May 2024 09:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Vanessa Fernandez, a coach and somatic practitioner who explores the intersections of identity in relation to Enneagram work. She explores the things that no one tells you when you start doing this Enneagram work and some of the support that can help as you are faced with the period of actual transformation.

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Vanessa Fernandez:

Web: theenneagramworkshop.com

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Seth Abram:

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18: The 12-Steps of Recovery and the Enneagram with Anne Geary

Thu, 09 May 2024 05:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Anne Geary, founder of The Enneagram Approach. Anne explains her unique approach of combining the powerful tool of the Enneagram map with the pragmatic process of the 12-Steps of Recovery. She shares her personal story of recovery that led her to this work and how this unique approach can help us do the deep work.

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Anne Geary:

Web: enneagramapproach.com

IG: @enneagramapproach

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17: The Intersection of Improvisation and the Enneagram

Thu, 25 Apr 2024 09:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Elisabeth Wurm, a theater director and Enneagram teacher from St. Louis. Elisabeth discusses the overlap between improv and the Enneagram as they are both ego work. Each Enneagram type has a false personality, or ego, that will try to get in the way, and Elisabeth shares how improv can bring out the ego but also help work through that.

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Elisabeth Wrum:

Web: notjustenneacoach.com

IG: @survival_thrival

Seth "Creek" Creekmore:

Seth Abram:

Lindsey Davis Marks:

Lee Fields:

Aephoria Partners:

16: Stepping into Intimate Places with Rev. Nhien Vuong

Thu, 11 Apr 2024 09:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Rev. Nhien Vuong, an Enneagram thought leader, spiritual mentor, and founder of Evolving Enneagram, a community-centered organization whose mission is to transform human ecosystems around the globe using a contemplative, wholeness-based approach to our individual and collective awakening. Rev. Nhien talks about the session she facilitated at the IEA Conference about sex and the Enneagram and hosted by the Enneagram & Sexuality Enneagroup. She shares what inspired her to participate in this topic and some of the main takeaways participants took away from the sessions.

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Rev. Nhien Vuong:

Web: evolvingenneagram.com

IG: @evolvingenneagram

Seth "Creek" Creekmore:

Seth Abram:

Lindsey Davis Marks:

Lee Fields:

Aephoria Partners:

15: Exploring the Enneagram Through Nature with Stephanie J. Spencer

Thu, 28 Mar 2024 09:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Stephanie J. Spencer, an executive coach and Enneagram guide. Stephanie talks about her story with the Enneagram and what inspired her to explore it through the heart rather than the mind. Using imagery, she shares how nature is grounding for her and can help us see ourselves more, which she discusses in depth in her book, “Out of the Box & Into the Wild: An Enneagram Journey Through the Triads of Nature.”

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Book: Out of the Box & Into the Wild: An Enneagram Journey Through the Triads of Nature

Stephanie J. Spencer:

Web: stephaniejspencer.com

IG: @stephanie_j_spencer

Seth "Creek" Creekmore:

Seth Abram:

Lindsey Davis Marks:

Lee Fields:

Aephoria Partners:

14: Having Kind Conversations with Dr. Deborah Egerton and Dr. Robert Holden

Thu, 14 Mar 2024 09:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Dr. Deborah Egerton and Dr. Robert Holden, both also known as Dr. E and Dr. R respectively, about their friendship and the idea work they collaborate through the Enneagram. They also talk about coming to a place of understanding to bring us back to love. This can be accomplished through conversations and kind spaces so we can have an exchange of thoughts rather than a debate.

Connect with us:

Book: Know Justice Know Peace: A Transformative Journey of Social Justice, Anti-Racism, and Healing through the Power of the Enneagram

Dr. Debra Egerton:

Web: deborahegerton.com

Dr. Robert Holden

Web: robertholden.com

Seth "Creek" Creekmore:

Seth Abram:

Lindsey Davis Marks:

Lee Fields:

Aephoria Partners:

13: Revisiting Ego & Essence with Russ Hudson & Mario Sikora (Part 2) Re: Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast

Thu, 29 Feb 2024 04:15:00 -0400

Here’s Part 2 of Revisiting Ego & Essence. In this episode we continue to have a deep and meaningful conversation with enneagram legends Russ Hudson and Mario Sikora on these often used, often misunderstood concepts.

Lee Fields joins the Fathoms crew for this conversation, which always makes us better.

[2:00] How can we move forward with these terms despite the issues?

[13:05] Ego & Essence as bypassing

[19:05] It’s about the process, not a destination

[24:00] Individuality, Mutuality, & Unity in relation to ego and essence

[31:35] Russ’ and Mario’s closing remarks for people using the enneagram

[35:40] The Fathoms Cohosts provide their initial reactions to the conversation

[45:05] How we’ll use the terms “ego” & “essence” moving forward

[60:00] Abram shares a story

[1:01:00] Linz hands out podcast awards to the guys

[1:05:30] Why we do this podcast

Brought to you by:

Aephoria Partners:

The Enneagram Letters: A Poetic Exploration of Who You Thought You Had to Be

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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks, Drew Moser

Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore

Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
Follow Creek: @_creekmore
Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm

Lee Fields:

Learn More About the International Enneagram Association

Web: https://www.internationalenneagram.org/

Events: https://ieaninepoints.com/

IG: @ieaenneagram

12: Revisiting Ego & Essence with Russ Hudson & Mario Sikora (Part 1) Re: Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast

Thu, 15 Feb 2024 09:00:00 -0400

Today we have the pleasure of reposting an episode from our friends from the Fathoms podcast. The Fathoms crew sat down at the 2023 IEA conference to have a deep and meaningful conversation with enneagram legends Russ Hudson and Mario Sikora on the often used and often misunderstood concepts, Ego and Essence.

Joining the Fathoms crew is, Lee Fields, which always makes it better.

[1:00] A quick recap of Fathoms season 4

[5:30] We talk about (and cringe a bit) our Season 1 episode on Ego & Essence

[12:30] Lindsey’s thoughts about the first episode as a listener

[14:15] Our thoughts behind ending the season with the topic of Ego & Essence

[18:50] Some tips listening to this conversation with Russ & Mario

[23:00] Our conversation with Russ & Mario begins

[25:15] What’s the conversation we need to have today about ego & essence?

[27:45] Having beginner’s mind with ego & essence?

[28:50] Russ & Mario’s first meeting…and first impressions!

[30:45] Their common fascination with zombies

[32:50] What Russ and Mario admire about each other’s enneagram work

[35:45] Russ and Mario’s definition of “ego” and “essence”

[45:00] Examples of how they’ve changed their minds on ego and essence

[55:30] How Mario interprets Russ’ view of ego and essence

[1:00:00] Russ on “essence”

[1:08:00] Mario’s problems with the term “essence”

[1:11:45] Why are still using these words in these ways?

[1:18:45] Lindsey pushes back a bit

Stay tuned for Part 2 of our conversation with Russ & Mario next week!

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Brought to you by:

Aephoria Partners:

The Enneagram Letters: A Poetic Exploration of Who You Thought You Had to Be

—

Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks, Drew Moser

Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore

Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
Follow Creek: @_creekmore
Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm

Lee Fields:

Learn More About the International Enneagram Association

Web: https://www.internationalenneagram.org/

Events: https://ieaninepoints.com/

IG: @ieaenneagram

11: The Academy Study of the Enneagram with Dr. Jerome Wagner

Thu, 01 Feb 2024 09:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Dr. Jerome “Jerry” Wagner, a clinical psychologist, psychotherapist, supervisor, consultant in private practice, and emeritus faculty member in the Department of Psychology and Institute of Pastoral Studies at Loyola University, Chicago. Dr. Wagner shares his background with the Enneagram and his dissertation that explored how the Enneagram correlated with other personality tests. He also talks about what good academic work looks like in the realm of the Enneagram and what he sees as the next step in the Enneagram’s journey to help it remain useful and not lose its relevance.

Connect with us:

Dr Jerome Wagner:

Web: enneagramspectrum.com

Web: wepss.com

Seth "Creek" Creekmore:

Seth Abram:

Lindsey Davis Marks:

Lee Fields:

Aephoria Partners:

10: Using the Foundational Values of the Enneagram to Undo Racism with Chelsea Forbrook

Thu, 18 Jan 2024 05:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Chelsea Forbrook, an Enneagram educator, coach and spiritual director. Chelsea talks about the topic she’s presented at the IEA conference with Milton Stewart: igniting passion to undo racism by doing an Enneagram study on whiteness and white culture. They discuss how we can use the tools we already learned from the Enneagram towards our activism and our cultural bias. She shares how we can do this by using the foundational values of the Enneagram – compassion, curiosity and open mindedness.

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Chelsea Forbrook:

Web: chelseaforbrook.com

IG: @chelsea_forbrook

BIG Enneagram Retreat: bigenneagramretreat.simvoly.com

Seth "Creek" Creekmore:

Seth Abram:

Lindsey Davis Marks:

Lee Fields:

Aephoria Partners:

9: Integrating inclusion into Enneagram work with Jessica Denise Dickson

Thu, 04 Jan 2024 09:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Jessica Denise Dickson, a life empowerment coach who teaches and coaches for the reclamation of full humanity through the intersections of the Enneagram, antiracism, and embodiment. Jessica discusses her talk with Vanessa Fernandez that explored the landscape and cultural context of the modern Enneagram of personality. She also talks about how the Enneagram teaching has been bounded in whiteness, how it’s important to separate the cultural work while doing the type work so that we have a fuller journey and more breath and depth within the work.

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Jessica Denise Dickson:

Web: jessicaddickson.com

IG: @jessicaddicksoncoaching

FB: Jessica Denise Dickson Coaching

Pod: The Antiracist Enneagram Podcast

Seth "Creek" Creekmore:

Seth Abram:

Lindsey Davis Marks:

Lee Fields:

Aephoria Partners:

8: The Deep Emotional Work of Clear Thinking with Mario Sikora and María José Munita

Thu, 21 Dec 2023 09:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Mario Sikora and María José Munita on how to use the framework of clear thinking with the Enneagram. They discuss why we should think through the logical steps and effective remedies to address our emotions and feelings and the tools to discern what is true and what is not.

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Mario Sikora:

Maria Jose Munita:

IG: @mjmunita

Web: mjmunita.com

Seth "Creek" Creekmore:

Seth Abram:

Lindsey Davis Marks:

Lee Fields:

Aephoria Partners:

7: The State of the Enneagram, and its Future with Russ Hudson

Thu, 07 Dec 2023 09:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Russ Hudson, one of the world's leading scholars and teachers on the Enneagram. Russ discusses the current state of the Enneagram. With a new year approaching, he shares what he thinks are good next steps for the community and his hope for the next generation of Enneagram teachers.

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Seth "Creek" Creekmore:

Seth Abram:

Lindsey Davis Marks:

Lee Fields:

Aephoria Partners:

6: Engaging the body to help us heal with Marion Gilbert

Thu, 23 Nov 2023 05:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Marion Gilbert about her work with the somatic Enneagram that helps us understand the sensations that go through our bodies. Marion discusses how engaging with our bodies can help us heal and she shares why her work is so important to the Enneagram community now.

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Marion Gilbert:

Web: mariongilbert.com

Seth "Creek" Creekmore:

Seth Abram:

Lindsey Davis Marks:

Lee Fields:

Aephoria Partners:

5: Trauma and Enneagram-informed awareness with Sharon Ball & Renée Siegel

Thu, 09 Nov 2023 05:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Sharon K. Ball and Renée Siegel, authors of “Reclaiming YOU: Using the Enneagram to Move from Trauma to Resilience,” about trauma and Enneagram-formed awareness. When someone goes through a traumatic experience, they tend to turn to a safe person, also known as a gatekeeper, who can then refer them to a therapist. Sharon and Renée discuss how to become a gatekeeper and become aware of anyone going through trauma. They also talk about their collaboration behind the book.

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Book: Reclaiming YOU: Using the Enneagram to Move from Trauma to Resilience

Sharon K. Ball:

Web: sharonkball.com

Web: 9paths.com

Renee Siegel

Web: urpurepotential.com

Book: Reclaiming YOU: Using the Enneagram to Move from Trauma to Resilience

Seth "Creek" Creekmore:

Seth Abram:

Lindsey Davis Marks:

Lee Fields:

Aephoria Partners:

4: Using the Enneagram to Inspire Transformation on Both Sides of the Bars with Enneagram Prison Project

Thu, 26 Oct 2023 05:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Susan Olesek, founder of the Enneagram Prison Project (EPP), and ambassadors Dustin Baldwin, Jeff Limon and Alex Senegal. They discuss EPP’s mission to help those in jails and prisons use the Enneagram to inspire transformation on both sides of the bars. They share what its likes to work with the Enneagram through the ups and downs of their journeys and how this tool can help others free themselves from the prisons of their own making.

“The Enneagram Letters: A Poetic Exploration of Who You Thought You Had to Be” by Sarajane Case https://a.co/d/94rvE72

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Enneagram Prison Project:

Web: enneagramprisonproject.org

IG: @enneagramprisonproject

Pod: Enneagram Prison Project Podcast

Seth "Creek" Creekmore:

Seth Abram:

Lindsey Davis Marks:

Lee Fields:

3: Object Relations and the Enneagram Belinda Gore

Thu, 12 Oct 2023 05:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Belinda Gore, an author, teacher and Enneagram presenter at this year’s conference. Belinda shares how she came into the Enneagram community and how Object Relations interacts with the Enneagram. She also talks about her recent book, Finding Freedom: Understanding Our Relationships Using Object Relations and the Enneagram.

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Book: Finding Freedom: Understanding Our Relationships Using Object Relations and the Enneagram

Belinda Gore:

Web: belindagore.com

Seth "Creek" Creekmore:

Seth Abram:

Lindsey Davis Marks:

Lee Fields:

2: Aephoria & Teaching the Enneagram in South Africa

Wed, 23 Aug 2023 05:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, Milton Stewart speaks with Lucille Greeff from Aephoria, who is the honored podcast room sponsor for this years’ IEA conference. Lucille shares what she does and the work they do at Aephoria. She also discusses how they connect to the Enneagram world within South Africa.

“This is one of the biggest pieces I think that is missing when we try to share honestly anything or when we try to especially share the Enneagram, understanding the cultural differences.” - Milton [21:32]

“We can’t be Enneagram practitioners now and not be deeply trauma informed in what we’re doing, because we could be part of retraumatizing people.” - Lucille [26:42]

TIMESTAMPS

[00:01] Intro

[00:??] Today’s guest

[01:32] About Aephoria

[05:11] How Lucille got into the Enneagram

[10:59] Teaching Enneagram in different part of the world

[13:10] The impact in South Africa

[17:35] Work in the Middle East

[21:22] The biggest challenges

[29:57] How Unite and Ignite informs the work

[34:16] How to contact Aephoria

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Aephoria Partners

IG: @aephoria_partners

YouTube: @aephoriapartners7848

Book: “Finding Ourselves: THE 72 AIM PROFILES” by Dr Julia Kukard, Lucille Greeff, Dr Simon Kettleborough

Milton Stewart:

Sarajane Case:

IG: @sarajanecase

Pod: Enneagram & Coffee

1: Welcome Your 2023 IEA Global Conference Podcast Hosts!

Thu, 15 Jun 2023 05:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, Seth “Creek” Creekmore is joined by his Fathoms podcast co-hosts, Seth Abram, Drew Moser and Lindsey Marks along with Lee Fields and Milton Stewart to celebrate Fathoms’ 100th episode. The Fathoms hosts are also partnering with IEA as temporary hosts of this podcast for this year’s global conference. Listen as they all share what this year’s theme, “Unite & Ignite,” mean to them within the Enneagram community and what they are most looking forward to at the conference.

“I love the Enneagram because it’s a tool for liberation.” - Milton [02:41]

“In relation to what we’ve been building for the past three years of Fathoms, how wide and complex it is to be human, and how the Enneagram is such a beautiful tool to help us navigate that, and I’m looking forward to adding more complexity and seeing how the Enneagram stands up” -Creek [14:16]

“Why is there this factioning, why is there this othering between the new guard and the old guard? What’s up? And it seems like it could be fixed with two lines of dialogue. What needs to happen? And I don’t believe that I’m the secret sauce that’s going to fix all of that, but I believe that naming it and doing something about it and striving to have connections between people is going to be the thing that’s going to do it.” -Lee [19:31]

“Especially in the Enneagram space, we spend so much time looking at ourselves and I feel like this is an opportunity to really look each other in the eye and to see one another more clearly.” -Lindsey [23:34]

“When I think of these United & Ignite, it makes sense to me that we have to come together to experience the fire.” -Abram [30:22]

“I think some of the most meaningful conversations I’ve ever had have been around a campfire and I think that’s a good way to approach a conference like this. It’s kinda like a global campfire of Enneanerds and Enneagram professionals.” -Drew [31:52]

TIMESTAMPS

[00:00] Intro

[01:05] This week’s hosts

[04:59] Icebreakers

[12:13] Most excited at the IEA conference

[21:08] What unite and ignite means

[33:38] Rapid fire questions

Connect with us:

Milton Stewart:

Seth "Creek" Creekmore:

Seth Abram:

Drew Moser:

IG: @typetrailenneagram

Lindsey Marks:

Lee Fields: