In this episode, we discuss the sociology of the Haredi world, how insiders and outsiders often misunderstand one another, and what is gained when the Haredi experience is explained with nuance rather than caricature.

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In this episode, we explore the contours of this timeless Jewish concept through its classical Torah sources, consider how it may have lost some of its central place in contemporary religious consciousness, and discuss how to restore it to a position of primacy within the lived experience of Torah observance. You can visit livingkiddushhashem.org for a wide range of resources, including the videos and educational materials featured in this episode.

Contact Rabbi Freedman at livingkidushhashem@gmail.com

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MORE ON DAAS TORAH

Professor Lawrence Kaplan, Daas Torah, A Modern Conception of Rabbinic Authority https://www.scribd.com/doc/39842329/Kaplan-Lawrence-Daas-Torah-A-Modern-Conception-of-Rabbinic-Authority Rabbi Anthony Manning’s English Bibliography on “Da’at Torah and Rabbinic Authority”: https://rabbimanning.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Daat-Torah-2017-Bibliography.pdf

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In the article, Rabbi Helfgot traces the history of the iconic encounter between these secular-political and chareidi leaders, respectively, in the State of Israel’s earliest days. He then proceeds to document the little-known continuing correspondence between the two figures.

This encounter - both the actual historical event and its larger metaphorical import - helps us understand the origins of the ideological fault lines that remain entrenched today, despite a heavily altered demographic landscape. We also examine ways in which chareidi norms have shifted since October 1952, and how the meeting in question might inform relations in our current moment.

Rabbi Hauer was the Executive Vice President of the Orthodox Union, as well as Rabbi Emeritus of Baltimore's Bnai Jacob Shaarei Zion.

He spearheaded a wide variety of communal initiatives while occupying a rare "middle ground" - passionately committed to core Torah principles, but respectful of and connected to all precincts of the Orthodox community, and beyond.

In tribute of this great figure, who exemplifies the ideals that Iyun promotes, we speak with Rabbi Yisroel Motzen, rabbi of the Ner Tamid synagogue in Baltimore, a longtime rabbinic student of the late Rabbi Hauer, as well as his associate at the OU.

Rabbi Motzen helps us sketch the contours of Rabbi Hauer's unique personality and hashkafa, and shares principles of his that we might incorporate into our own lives.

Yitzik also runs Bizmax, a co-working space geared for chareidim, among other ventures.

Several years ago, he published a book, "When the Chareidim Will Be the Majority," (Hebrew) exploring the challenges and solutions relevant to this community, and beyond.

In this episode, we review Rabbi Eliezrie’s own background and this most recent work, then springboard into an analysis of Chabad’s perspective on Zionism, secular nationalism, army enlistment and the modern state of Israel.

reserve combat physician and the author of "Applied Monotheism: The

Chareidi Response to Modernity."

In our wide-ranging conversation, we discuss Dr. Reit's IDF experience

and his analysis of "Charediism," as he argues for an ideological, not

cultural, definition.

More original episodes to come shortly!

and army service, one episode has conspicuously been missing: a full

treatment of the halachic parameters of the notion of milchemes mitzvah,

as well as an analysis commonly advanced ideals such as "Torah magneh

u'matzleh" ("Torah study protects"). In this episode we remedy that void

and address these issues that are vital to any Torah-centered Jew.

To do so, we speak with Rabbi Dr. Yitzchak Lifshitz, a noted rav and

rosh Kollel based in Yerushalayim, who has written extensively on these

topics in recent months. Rabbi Dr. Lifshiftz is also a professor of

philosophy at Shalem College.

specific expertise in AI. But over past twenty years he has led an

intellectual movement promoting judicial reform within Israel.

Through his Kohelet Policy Forum, Dr. Koppel researches alternatives to

the entrenched judicial dynamics, and advocates for what he considers a

more balanced and democratic approach, in line with other Western

countries. Obviously, this topic has been at the center of stormy

debates and protests in Israel; while it seemed to subside in the wake

of the October 7th tragedy, this issue has returned to the foreground,

with broad implications for swaths of Israeli society, perhaps most

notably, the chareidim.

We speak today with Dr. Koppel about the history and intellectual

perspective of this movement, how and why it seemed to unravel, and

where the typically non-ideological and narrowly focus charedi public

fits in to the story.

Relevant to the Iyun Podcast, however, we focus in this episode on Tzili’s recent efforts with hostage families and NOVA survivors; she has engaged each of these populations with Shabbatonim and other outreach methods, resulting in a significant Jewish awakening fostering deep bonds of mutual love.

The resulting gap leads to widespread misconceptions, and inhibits Anglos from forming fully informed positions.

InStep Together is a new grassroots initiative aimed at remediating this state of affairs. Several notable Anglo-Charedi rabbinic personalities have embarked on a “hasbara tour” of sorts, holding intimate, fireside chat-style conversations in various communities. Rabbis Mordechai Becher, Ron Yitzchak Eisenmann and today’s guest, Yitzchak Adlerstein, have directed their time and talents towards helping thoughtful charedim around the United States grapple with these issues of grave importance.

mathematician, computer scientist, and all-around polymath, Tuvia was

raised in a chareidi Israeli home, in the lap of the Chazon Ish, Rav

Shach and other great luminaries. His own life veered on a different

course, but he recently returned to those ideological precincts,

spending a year in Mea She’arim, Jerusalem, fully immersed in the local

community.

The product of his embedded travels is the book, “Careful, Beauties

Ahead: My Year with the Ultra-Orthodox,” an honest and largely

flattering portrayal of his time in an otherwise closed society.

Tenenbom highlights many of the gifts - fervent religiosity, principled

living, embrace of charity and family - that animate chareidi life, yet

which so few Israeli “outsiders” ever learn about, much less witness.

In an era of intense polarization,Tenenbom’s tome is a reminder that,

for all the critique and calls for chareidi reform, the core values must

be preserved, radiating out towards the entire Jewish nation, and

beyond.

Still, as expressed in contemporary living, even those who identify as strictly Torah-observant may respond divergently to this most-important question.

On this episode, Tzvi Goldstein will argue that the Chareidi mindset on “the purpose of life” is orientated towards a Next-World (Olam Ha’Ba) perspective, built on a mystical approach popularized by Rav Chaim of Volozhin.

Goldstein himself favors what he classifies as a more “centrist”, “This-Worldly” approach, championed by Rav Hirsch and Rav Soloveitchik.

Yaakov Resnick pushes back, adding nuance and sophistication to the presentation of Charedi hashkafa, and muddying the picture, just a bit.

Stay tuned for our host’s own take at the end of the episode.

This conversation was inspired by an article penned by Goldstein on the pages of online publication The Lehrhaus, provocatively titled “Rack up Those Mitzvot,” to which Resnick (along with others) responded with a letter to the editor. (See past Iyun guest Chaim Goldberg’s letter as well.)

Yaavov Resnik prefers a lower profile, but for more from Tzvi Goldstein, check out his book, Halachic Worldviews. This unique work explains the background for the "centrist" approach to Torah learning, and offers more than a dozen examples of halachic topics that might be evaluated through the lens of “Torah values.” Tzvi authors a wonderful Substack as well. Give him a follow!

He joins us on this episode to explore the unique role and purpose of chareidi media.

His wonderful new volume, “Ordinary Greatness,” a compilation of many columns, and more, is available for purchase wherever great Jewish books are sold.

In this episode, we ask him to sketch out, for the uninitiated, the “Dati Leumi” community in which he lives and teaches. Many people beyond this large and vibrant society may be unaware of the variegated options therein, or of just how serious and committed are many of its adherents to limud ha’Torah and shmiras ha’mitzvos. Hopefully, this show can offer a modest corrective to that reality.

R’ Taragin speaks with great humility and ahavas Yisroel, and all of his works are well worth our listeners’ attention. Hear some of his classes here and here. And purchase his powerful book about faith post-October 7th, Dark Clouds Above, Faith Below.

As Iyun founder Rabbi Yehoshua Pfeffer has written, the most vital factor in the entire chareidi conscription conundrum may just be whether, or to what degree, chareidim see themselves as “Israeli.” 

In this wide-ranging conversation about chareidi identity, we tackle these questions and aim to decipher the trends at play in current society.

This is compounded when considering possible halachic matters of life and death: who is authorizing actions that place soldiers’, and others’, lives at risk? Are these decisions guided by Torah principles in any sense?

Rabbi Dr. Shlomo Brody, founder of Ematai, and author of the recently-released instant-classic Ethics of our Fighters, joins us to explore these vexing issues.

 It would be presumptuous to attempt to treat the topic of Daas Torah comprehensively on one episode of a conversational podcast. One is referred to Lawrence Kaplan’s classic article on the matter, and many other sources, for this more holistic treatment.

Instead, we evaluate how this contention is marshaled within the current discourse around Chareidim and army service. Rabbinic opposition often is cited as the most substantial argument against participation. This impulse is deeply embedded in the charedi psyche, and one can argue that this is with good reason: after all, on matters of legitimate communal guidance, who is more qualified to issue directives that will preserve societal commitments and observance?

On the other hand, in today’s landscape, many people seek more transparency and wish to debate the issues on their merits, without recoursing to an “argument from authority.” Furthermore, students of even recent history wonder when this issue became so monolithic, and extreme.

This fascinating article explores charedii military participation during the War of Independence. Telz Rosh Yeshiva Rav Elya Meir Bloch attended a communal Yom Ha’atmaut celebration in Cleveland in 1954.

And consider these statements, cited in a Tzarich Iyun article by Iyun founder Rabbi Yehoshua Pfeffer, made decades ago by the greatest sages of the previous generation:

Rav Elazar Shach (1980 letter on behalf of Vaad Hayeshivos): “The right given to yeshiva students of deferring their enlistment into the army, is contingent on his study being his sole occupation. He must not be engaged in any material pursuits, whether during yeshiva hours or outside of them.”

Rav Yechezkel Abramski: “Anyone who “abuses this right, is considered a rodef (a “pursuer”) of those yeshiva students who study Torah diligently.” And he instructed Roshei Yeshiva “to conduct a strict vetting of students and remove from their ranks any student whose Torah is not his sole occupation.”

The Steipler (in Orchos Rabbeinu): “Those who are registered in yeshiva, allowing them exemption from the army even as they engage in gainful employment, are absolute rodfim.” To be sure, none of these quotes imply a pro-army stance for full-time yeshiva students; quite the opposite.

Still, they do reflect a willingness - even responsibility - to reserve this exemption for those most deserving. (And of course, while many opponents would still decry such privilege for full-time learners, a stance that demands army service for all non-learners would be welcomed in our moment by most Israelis, and reflect a far more liberal position than currently espoused.)

So…in a society that seems to have grown only more traditional, why has the chareidi community grown more resolute and isolated? Why has the Daas Torah changed? Or is all not as it appears?

We will attempt to unravel some of these questions on this episode.

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Link to Outro reference: https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/T/bo3636037.html

As a part of our ongoing series on Chareidim and the Army, we present this symposium, lightly edited, for your enjoyment in podcast form.

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Today's proposition: "The time has arrived for many more chareidim to begin to draft to the army."

R' Chaim Goldberg is an educator, clinical psychologist and author.

Jewish Press Article: https://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/opinions/the-idf-a-torah-true-calling/2024/04/12/

Substack ("View From Jerusalem"): https://chaimgoldberg.substack.com/

Rav Aharon Lichtenstein on the Ideology of Hesder: https://traditiononline.org/the-ideology-of-hesder/

R' Mordechai (Mordy) Twersky is an educator and scholar in Har Nof, Jerusalem, Israel.

Brief monograph on Chareidi opposition to army service: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xYDEKI7DjfXBzhNR_QXz8KomWURliPkqeg4lqJgc85E/edit?usp=sharing

On Episode 5 of The Iyun Podcast - and Pt. 4 of our mini-series on Chareidim and Army Service - we speak with Rabbi Gross about his background, and this groundbreaking project.

Yeshiva Derech Chaim: https://www.derechaim.com/en/our-staff/

In Episode 4 of the Iyun Podcast - and Pt. 3 of our mini-series on Chareidim and Army Service - we begin exploring various frameworks that currently exist to absorb those chareidim seeking to draft into military service. We begin with what is known as Nachal Chareidi, or Netzach Yehuda (now Netzach). These two are often conflated, although actually they are related but not identical institutions.

We speak with CEO Yossi Levi about these programs, how they are actually constructed, how they differ from other IDF units, and the future of this enterprise.

Learn more about Nachal Chareidi and Netzach at https://nahalharedi.org/

Rabbi Yehoshua Pfeffer has written extensively about this issue, and is joined by Mrs. Ilana Cowland, a noted parent educator and speaker, with "feet" planted firmly in multiple communal "camps."

IMPORTANT LINKS:

An Open Letter to our Haredi Sisters (Hebrew):

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfT7lDYfGJTKmTysGESMB6-Y-iHHxTU4FmSjFSprLkdzBzyYQ/viewform

Ilana Cowland's recent Times of Israel column on the current intra-chareidi divide:

https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/kornreich-vs-dunner-a-haredi-womans-opinion/?_gl=1*1nv2abx*_ga*MTAyNjk0MDk4OC4xNjk5OTkxMjAx*_ga_RJR2XWQR34*MTcxMjIzNzExMi4xMzI1LjEuMTcxMjIzOTM0NS4wLjAuMA

"Now It’s Brotherhood’s Turn," by R' Yehoshua Pfeffer

https://iyun.org.il/en/sedersheni/now-its-brotherhoods-turn/

This episode of the Iyun Podcast begins our discussion of the complex relationship between Chareidi society and the Israel Defense Forces (IDF). Featuring insights from Iyun Institute founder Rabbi Yehoshua Pfeffer and guest Rabbi Yosef Chaim Simchon, the conversation explores the historical, moral, and societal aspects of Charedi participation in the army. From Rabbi Simchon's personal journey and transformational experiences in the IDF to the nuanced objections within the Chareidi community, this episode offers an in-depth look at the intersection of faith, identity, and national service.

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 Introduction

00:32 Chareidim and IDF: The Core Issues

02:17 Guest Introduction: Rabbi Yosef Chaim Simchon

02:26 Rabbi Simchon's Personal Journey

11:11 The Moral and Practical Realities of Army Service

50:11 Concluding Reflections and Calls for Unity

On this pilot episode of the Iyun Podcast, we begin our in-depth exploration into Chareidi society, focusing on its integration into modern Israeli society and the implications for the Jewish community at large. Featuring Iyun Institute founder and director Rabbi Yehoshua Pfeffer, we delve into the various factions within Chareidi society, including Litvish, Hasidic, and Sephardi groups, and explore the balance between traditionalism and modernity.

Our episode also highlights the cultural contributions of the Chareidi community and its evolving role within both Israeli society and the broader Jewish diaspora, aiming to foster a sense of identity and cultural exchange. We begin to outline communal challenges, and sketch out potential pathways for more harmonious integration and participation in the shaping of Israel's future.

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 Welcome and Introduction

03:36 Special Guest: Rabbi Yehoshua Pfeffer on Chareidi Identity and Challenges

06:29 Rabbi Pfeffer's Journey: From London to the Heart of Israeli Chareidi Society

10:54 Defining Chareidi Identity: A Complex Tapestry

20:02 The Shift Towards Addressing Broader Societal Challenges

28:28 Navigating Academia as a Chareidi: Rabbi Pfeffer's Experience

35:14 Understanding the Diverse Factions within Chareidi Society

41:36 Comparing Hasidic, Litvish, and Sefardi Isolationism

45:31 The Spectrum of Chareidi Identity: Traditional vs. Modern

01:07:45 The Role of English-Speaking Chareidim in Israel

01:12:15 Launching the Iyun Podcast: A New Chapter