<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><?xml-stylesheet href="https://feeds.captivate.fm/style.xsl" type="text/xsl"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:googleplay="http://www.google.com/schemas/play-podcasts/1.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" xmlns:podcast="https://podcastindex.org/namespace/1.0"><channel><atom:link href="https://feeds.captivate.fm/just/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><title><![CDATA[JUST]]></title><podcast:guid>4eaf97a7-29d0-5047-afa0-8c2ec1c30026</podcast:guid><lastBuildDate>Mon, 13 May 2024 16:13:35 +0000</lastBuildDate><generator>Captivate.fm</generator><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><copyright><![CDATA[Copyright ReCity Network. All rights reserved.]]></copyright><managingEditor>Rob Shields</managingEditor><itunes:summary><![CDATA[The JUST podcast features people building thriving communities rooted in social justice. Stories about working with the underserved and amplifying the voices of the marginalized. JUST is part of the Capitol Broadcasting Podcast Network,
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Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!⁣
⁣
Follow DJ Pdogg online:⁣

www.djpdogg.com⁣

Twitter: DJPdogg

Instagram: djpdogg⁣

Follow Producer Lo Key on Instagram⁣



Our sponsors:⁣

⁣ReCity Network⁣



Coastal Credit Union⁣


Our hosts:⁣

⁣Jes Averhart, cofounder of Black Wallstreet Homecoming⁣


Rob Shields, executive director of the Recity Network



Our Producer:⁣
⁣Michael Baylor]]></itunes:summary><image><url>https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg</url><title>JUST</title><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link></image><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg"/><itunes:owner><itunes:name>Rob Shields</itunes:name></itunes:owner><itunes:author>Rob Shields</itunes:author><description>The JUST podcast features people building thriving communities rooted in social justice. Stories about working with the underserved and amplifying the voices of the marginalized. JUST is part of the Capitol Broadcasting Podcast Network,
⁣⁣
Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!⁣
⁣
Follow DJ Pdogg online:⁣

www.djpdogg.com⁣

Twitter: DJPdogg

Instagram: djpdogg⁣

Follow Producer Lo Key on Instagram⁣



Our sponsors:⁣

⁣ReCity Network⁣



Coastal Credit Union⁣


Our hosts:⁣

⁣Jes Averhart, cofounder of Black Wallstreet Homecoming⁣


Rob Shields, executive director of the Recity Network



Our Producer:⁣
⁣Michael Baylor</description><link>https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast</link><atom:link href="https://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com" rel="hub"/><itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Stories about people building thriving communities rooted in justice.]]></itunes:subtitle><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:type>episodic</itunes:type><itunes:category text="Society &amp; Culture"></itunes:category><itunes:category text="News"></itunes:category><itunes:new-feed-url>https://feeds.captivate.fm/just/</itunes:new-feed-url><podcast:locked>no</podcast:locked><podcast:medium>podcast</podcast:medium><item><title>Finale (Rob Shields Version)</title><itunes:title>Finale (Rob Shields Version)</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In the epic second part of the JUST finale, Rob shares his insights and experiences. With over 50 episodes across 3 seasons, there's a treasure trove of wisdom to discuss and reflect on.</p><p>If the podcast has made an impact in your life, please consider reaching out to Jes and Rob at <a href="mailto:thejustpod@gmail.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">thejustpod@gmail.com</a> to let them know!</p><ul><li>0:00 Intro/Interlude</li><li>0:23 Episode starts</li><li>4:00 Jes begins to frame up the episode</li><li>5:51 How did JUST come to be?</li><li>17:40 How did you set the values for JUST?</li><li>23:54 What were your top 5 interviews?</li><li>37:11 Who is on your interview bucket list?</li><li>45:05 What did you learn from JUST?</li><li>59:44 What advice would you give listeners?</li><li>66:11 What's next for Rob?</li><li>71:28 Rob and Jes thank folks</li><li>80:10 Outro</li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li>Chris Pappalardo</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the epic second part of the JUST finale, Rob shares his insights and experiences. With over 50 episodes across 3 seasons, there's a treasure trove of wisdom to discuss and reflect on.</p><p>If the podcast has made an impact in your life, please consider reaching out to Jes and Rob at <a href="mailto:thejustpod@gmail.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">thejustpod@gmail.com</a> to let them know!</p><ul><li>0:00 Intro/Interlude</li><li>0:23 Episode starts</li><li>4:00 Jes begins to frame up the episode</li><li>5:51 How did JUST come to be?</li><li>17:40 How did you set the values for JUST?</li><li>23:54 What were your top 5 interviews?</li><li>37:11 Who is on your interview bucket list?</li><li>45:05 What did you learn from JUST?</li><li>59:44 What advice would you give listeners?</li><li>66:11 What's next for Rob?</li><li>71:28 Rob and Jes thank folks</li><li>80:10 Outro</li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li>Chris Pappalardo</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">7e22b2c9-e35e-4be2-b20e-a93ac29b8954</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob Shields]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2022 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/80ef9a7f-3828-4422-8e7f-ea35e642eb14/just-s3-finale-pt-2.mp3" length="193458368" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:20:36</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>24</itunes:episode><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><podcast:episode>24</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:author>Rob Shields</itunes:author></item><item><title>Finale (Jes Averhart Version)</title><itunes:title>Finale (Jes Averhart Version)</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Folks, this is it! The epic two part finale to the JUST podcast. Listen in to hear all of Jes's thoughts and takeaways from three seasons of conversations around justice. And make sure you catch the second part to get Rob's views.</p><p>If the podcast has made an impact in your life, please consider reaching out to Jes and Rob at <a href="mailto:thejustpod@gmail.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">thejustpod@gmail.com</a> to let them know!</p><ul><li>0:00 Intro</li><li>0:43 Episode starts</li><li>2:18 Rob makes an announcement</li><li>4:33 Jes's feelings about JUST milestones</li><li>7:21 Rob reflects on Jes's work</li><li>12:03 The importance of laughter</li><li>15:49 Rob gives a high level view of the episode</li><li>17:42 Jes checks in with Rob</li><li>21:32 Rob checks in with Jes</li><li>25:14 Rob begins interviewing Jes</li><li>25:37 How did the podcast start?</li><li>33:55 What were your favorite interviews?</li><li>45:45 Honorable mentions</li><li>48:40 Who is on your bucket list to interview?</li><li>53:34 What lessons have you learned?</li><li>62:41 What advice do you have for listeners?</li><li>67:04 What's next for Jes?</li><li>74:33 Outro/Interlude</li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li>Chris Pappalardo</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Folks, this is it! The epic two part finale to the JUST podcast. Listen in to hear all of Jes's thoughts and takeaways from three seasons of conversations around justice. And make sure you catch the second part to get Rob's views.</p><p>If the podcast has made an impact in your life, please consider reaching out to Jes and Rob at <a href="mailto:thejustpod@gmail.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">thejustpod@gmail.com</a> to let them know!</p><ul><li>0:00 Intro</li><li>0:43 Episode starts</li><li>2:18 Rob makes an announcement</li><li>4:33 Jes's feelings about JUST milestones</li><li>7:21 Rob reflects on Jes's work</li><li>12:03 The importance of laughter</li><li>15:49 Rob gives a high level view of the episode</li><li>17:42 Jes checks in with Rob</li><li>21:32 Rob checks in with Jes</li><li>25:14 Rob begins interviewing Jes</li><li>25:37 How did the podcast start?</li><li>33:55 What were your favorite interviews?</li><li>45:45 Honorable mentions</li><li>48:40 Who is on your bucket list to interview?</li><li>53:34 What lessons have you learned?</li><li>62:41 What advice do you have for listeners?</li><li>67:04 What's next for Jes?</li><li>74:33 Outro/Interlude</li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li>Chris Pappalardo</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">4f0aeb53-5944-42e7-aee0-e9392fb33d6b</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob Shields]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2022 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/d4755b0e-c9de-4828-b285-db9597da9e33/just-s3-finale-pt-1.mp3" length="179379968" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:14:44</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>23</itunes:episode><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><podcast:episode>23</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:author>Rob Shields</itunes:author></item><item><title>Four Qualities of a Just Leader</title><itunes:title>Four Qualities of a Just Leader</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>David Spickard makes a return to the Just podcast this week, with updates about his leadership cohorts, an upcoming book, and the four qualities of a just leader. If you want to learn more, you can reach David directly at <a href="mailto:david@spickardconsulting.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">david@spickardconsulting.com</a></p><p>Support the <a href="https://www.gofundme.com/f/honoring-connell-green-college-fund-challenge?utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet&amp;utm_medium=copy_link&amp;utm_source=customer" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connell Green college fund</a>!</p><ul><li>0:00 Intro</li><li>0:43 Episode starts</li><li>1:16 Jes's check in</li><li>3:53 Rob's check in</li><li>6:55 Rob introduces David</li><li>7:28 David joins the call</li><li>9:39 Rob reads David's bio</li><li>12:15 Why are you writing a book?</li><li>16:18 How has your cohort's leadership changed?</li><li>25:26 How have you seen "others focused" leadership play out?</li><li>31:09 Give us some insight on the other three qualities</li><li>37:49 What is a fusion friendship in your life?</li><li>41:50 What is the future of just leadership?</li><li>46:43 Where can people learn more?</li><li>49:51 Debrief</li><li>55:40 Outro</li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li>Chris Pappalardo</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Spickard makes a return to the Just podcast this week, with updates about his leadership cohorts, an upcoming book, and the four qualities of a just leader. If you want to learn more, you can reach David directly at <a href="mailto:david@spickardconsulting.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">david@spickardconsulting.com</a></p><p>Support the <a href="https://www.gofundme.com/f/honoring-connell-green-college-fund-challenge?utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet&amp;utm_medium=copy_link&amp;utm_source=customer" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connell Green college fund</a>!</p><ul><li>0:00 Intro</li><li>0:43 Episode starts</li><li>1:16 Jes's check in</li><li>3:53 Rob's check in</li><li>6:55 Rob introduces David</li><li>7:28 David joins the call</li><li>9:39 Rob reads David's bio</li><li>12:15 Why are you writing a book?</li><li>16:18 How has your cohort's leadership changed?</li><li>25:26 How have you seen "others focused" leadership play out?</li><li>31:09 Give us some insight on the other three qualities</li><li>37:49 What is a fusion friendship in your life?</li><li>41:50 What is the future of just leadership?</li><li>46:43 Where can people learn more?</li><li>49:51 Debrief</li><li>55:40 Outro</li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li>Chris Pappalardo</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">d016fcef-1b66-429c-9460-63467aee949a</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob Shields]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 27 Dec 2021 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/e7715444-8d8e-4eef-9c43-be0096a80333/just-s3e22.mp3" length="134566208" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>56:04</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>22</itunes:episode><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><podcast:episode>22</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:author>Rob Shields</itunes:author></item><item><title>A Place at the Table</title><itunes:title>A Place at the Table</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This week's guest is Maggie Kane, founder and executive director of <a href="https://tableraleigh.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Place At The Table Cafe</a> in Raleigh. Maggie shares inspiring stories of community and friendship, and describes her unique model for focusing on dignity while tackling food insecurity.</p><ul><li>0:00 Intro</li><li>0:43 Episode starts</li><li>2:55 Rob's check in</li><li>4:27 Jes's check in</li><li>6:49 Maggie joins the call</li><li>8:30 Jes reads Maggie's bio</li><li>9:51 What led you to this work?</li><li>20:12 What were the early years like?</li><li>25:19 How did COVID impact your leadership?</li><li>30:21 Interlude</li><li>31:57 Does the issue of dependency still show up in your model?</li><li>36:55 What are some fusion friendships in your life?</li><li>43:03 How can listeners show up?</li><li>47:15 Debrief</li><li>47:57 Rob's takeaways</li><li>50:40 Jes's takeaways</li><li>57:09 Outro</li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li>Chris Pappalardo</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week's guest is Maggie Kane, founder and executive director of <a href="https://tableraleigh.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Place At The Table Cafe</a> in Raleigh. Maggie shares inspiring stories of community and friendship, and describes her unique model for focusing on dignity while tackling food insecurity.</p><ul><li>0:00 Intro</li><li>0:43 Episode starts</li><li>2:55 Rob's check in</li><li>4:27 Jes's check in</li><li>6:49 Maggie joins the call</li><li>8:30 Jes reads Maggie's bio</li><li>9:51 What led you to this work?</li><li>20:12 What were the early years like?</li><li>25:19 How did COVID impact your leadership?</li><li>30:21 Interlude</li><li>31:57 Does the issue of dependency still show up in your model?</li><li>36:55 What are some fusion friendships in your life?</li><li>43:03 How can listeners show up?</li><li>47:15 Debrief</li><li>47:57 Rob's takeaways</li><li>50:40 Jes's takeaways</li><li>57:09 Outro</li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li>Chris Pappalardo</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">56cded62-ffbc-45f7-86b4-223add75ec10</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob Shields]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2021 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/b78a1c92-a1e5-451b-b899-fad9d88298d2/just-s3e21.mp3" length="138147008" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>57:34</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>21</itunes:episode><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><podcast:episode>21</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:author>Rob Shields</itunes:author></item><item><title>Shaw University, Learning from Legacy, and Next Generation Leaders</title><itunes:title>Shaw University, Learning from Legacy, and Next Generation Leaders</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This week on Just, Rob and Jes talk to Dr. Erin Moore, the Executive Director of <a href="https://crsj.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Center for Racial and Social Justice</a> at Shaw University. They talk about the legacy of change at Shaw, the next generation of student-led change, and ways to measure the progress of that change.</p><ul><li>0:00 Intro</li><li>0:43 Episode starts</li><li>1:14 Jes's check in</li><li>5:37 Rob's check in</li><li>7:49 Rob introduces Dr. Moor</li><li>8:32 Dr. Moor joins the conversation</li><li>9:25 Rob gives Dr. Moor's bio</li><li>11:51 What is your story?</li><li>16:37 What is the legacy of Shaw?</li><li>19:34 How did the Center come to be?</li><li>27:23 How do you measure progress?</li><li>33:51 What fusion friendships have impacted how you work?</li><li>48:31 What's one way listeners can show up?</li><li>52:17 How can people follow the Center's work?</li><li>55:45 Outro</li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li>Chris Pappalardo</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week on Just, Rob and Jes talk to Dr. Erin Moore, the Executive Director of <a href="https://crsj.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Center for Racial and Social Justice</a> at Shaw University. They talk about the legacy of change at Shaw, the next generation of student-led change, and ways to measure the progress of that change.</p><ul><li>0:00 Intro</li><li>0:43 Episode starts</li><li>1:14 Jes's check in</li><li>5:37 Rob's check in</li><li>7:49 Rob introduces Dr. Moor</li><li>8:32 Dr. Moor joins the conversation</li><li>9:25 Rob gives Dr. Moor's bio</li><li>11:51 What is your story?</li><li>16:37 What is the legacy of Shaw?</li><li>19:34 How did the Center come to be?</li><li>27:23 How do you measure progress?</li><li>33:51 What fusion friendships have impacted how you work?</li><li>48:31 What's one way listeners can show up?</li><li>52:17 How can people follow the Center's work?</li><li>55:45 Outro</li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li>Chris Pappalardo</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">6b5e7cbd-a71e-4c07-8051-59dd3a63a6f2</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob Shields]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2021 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/083d3d56-2159-426a-9dde-e0a28e5e6d1b/just-s3e20.mp3" length="135273728" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>56:22</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>20</itunes:episode><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><podcast:episode>20</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:author>Rob Shields</itunes:author></item><item><title>Activist Saviors, Listening Ears, and Advice for the Thanksgiving Table</title><itunes:title>Activist Saviors, Listening Ears, and Advice for the Thanksgiving Table</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Joining us this week on JUST is <a href="https://www.genellealdred.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Genelle Aldred</a>, a journalist, author, speaker, and storyteller. She's an ambassador for <a href="https://www.sands.org.uk/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">SANDS</a>, and author of the book <a href="https://spckpublishing.co.uk/communicate-for-change" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Communicate for Change</a>, which inspired this conversation. Tune in and enjoy!</p><ul><li>0:00 Intro</li><li>0:43 Episode starts</li><li>1:45 Jes's check in</li><li>5:05 Rob's check in</li><li>6:48 Rob introduces Genelle to the call</li><li>7:26 Genelle joins</li><li>9:09 Rob gives Genelle's bio</li><li>10:11 What's your story?</li><li>14:58 What about the present moment makes it hard to discuss issues of injustice?</li><li>20:18 Interlude</li><li>21:32 Rob quotes from Genelle's book</li><li>23:14 What led you to model "putting down your stone"?</li><li>29:35 Why is it important to appeal to both the heart and the mind?</li><li>33:52 What is the term "activist savior"?</li><li>39:06 What advice would you give folks entering the holiday season?</li><li>44:19 Is there anything you'd like to leave listeners with?</li><li>46:09 Wrap up and goodbyes</li><li>47:22 Outro</li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li>Chris Pappalardo</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joining us this week on JUST is <a href="https://www.genellealdred.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Genelle Aldred</a>, a journalist, author, speaker, and storyteller. She's an ambassador for <a href="https://www.sands.org.uk/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">SANDS</a>, and author of the book <a href="https://spckpublishing.co.uk/communicate-for-change" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Communicate for Change</a>, which inspired this conversation. Tune in and enjoy!</p><ul><li>0:00 Intro</li><li>0:43 Episode starts</li><li>1:45 Jes's check in</li><li>5:05 Rob's check in</li><li>6:48 Rob introduces Genelle to the call</li><li>7:26 Genelle joins</li><li>9:09 Rob gives Genelle's bio</li><li>10:11 What's your story?</li><li>14:58 What about the present moment makes it hard to discuss issues of injustice?</li><li>20:18 Interlude</li><li>21:32 Rob quotes from Genelle's book</li><li>23:14 What led you to model "putting down your stone"?</li><li>29:35 Why is it important to appeal to both the heart and the mind?</li><li>33:52 What is the term "activist savior"?</li><li>39:06 What advice would you give folks entering the holiday season?</li><li>44:19 Is there anything you'd like to leave listeners with?</li><li>46:09 Wrap up and goodbyes</li><li>47:22 Outro</li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li>Chris Pappalardo</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">651e3298-3137-4a0f-b96e-e2b5d73bded7</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob Shields]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2021 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/ce12a234-c277-49aa-84b6-71edc5d18a60/just-s3e19.mp3" length="115052288" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>47:56</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>19</itunes:episode><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><podcast:episode>19</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:author>Rob Shields</itunes:author></item><item><title>Unsettling Truths, White Trauma, and the Devastating Doctrine of Discovery</title><itunes:title>Unsettling Truths, White Trauma, and the Devastating Doctrine of Discovery</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Mark Charles joins the show today in a conversation about race and conciliation for the nation. Mark is a speaker, writer, and consultant, and his book <em>Unsettling Truths</em> inspired Rob to reach out for this episode. You can learn more about Mark at <a href="https://wirelesshogan.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wirelesshogan.com</a>, and <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/unsettling-truths" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">purchase his book here</a>. See below for more links mentioned in the show!</p><ul><li>0:00 Intro</li><li>0:43 Episode starts</li><li>1:43 Jes checks in with Rob</li><li>3:55 Rob checks in with Jes</li><li>6:43 Mark joins the conversation</li><li>7:01 Mark gives a traditional introduction</li><li>8:34 Jes provides some background on Mark</li><li>9:34 What is your story?</li><li>21:05 What is the doctrine of discovery?</li><li>26:59 What role do narratives play in perpetuating unjust systems?</li><li>32:29 Interlude</li><li>34:36 What is historical trauma?</li><li>46:31 Has your book had the response you were hoping for, and is it playing the role you wanted?</li><li>51:52 What role can listeners play</li><li>58:21 Debrief</li><li>59:17 Rob's takeaways</li><li>62:06 Jes's takeaways</li><li>71:00 Outro</li></ul><br/><p><a href="https://native-land.ca/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Native Land website</a></p><p><a href="https://www.ivpress.com/prophetic-lament" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Prophetic Lament book</a></p><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li>Chris Pappalardo</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark Charles joins the show today in a conversation about race and conciliation for the nation. Mark is a speaker, writer, and consultant, and his book <em>Unsettling Truths</em> inspired Rob to reach out for this episode. You can learn more about Mark at <a href="https://wirelesshogan.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wirelesshogan.com</a>, and <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/unsettling-truths" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">purchase his book here</a>. See below for more links mentioned in the show!</p><ul><li>0:00 Intro</li><li>0:43 Episode starts</li><li>1:43 Jes checks in with Rob</li><li>3:55 Rob checks in with Jes</li><li>6:43 Mark joins the conversation</li><li>7:01 Mark gives a traditional introduction</li><li>8:34 Jes provides some background on Mark</li><li>9:34 What is your story?</li><li>21:05 What is the doctrine of discovery?</li><li>26:59 What role do narratives play in perpetuating unjust systems?</li><li>32:29 Interlude</li><li>34:36 What is historical trauma?</li><li>46:31 Has your book had the response you were hoping for, and is it playing the role you wanted?</li><li>51:52 What role can listeners play</li><li>58:21 Debrief</li><li>59:17 Rob's takeaways</li><li>62:06 Jes's takeaways</li><li>71:00 Outro</li></ul><br/><p><a href="https://native-land.ca/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Native Land website</a></p><p><a href="https://www.ivpress.com/prophetic-lament" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Prophetic Lament book</a></p><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li>Chris Pappalardo</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">783fa303-ede4-403e-8a53-b55e7df6ac1a</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob Shields]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2021 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/3b2362e5-5a6a-4dd5-8a6c-b9ec45fdc0fe/just-s3e18.mp3" length="171755648" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:11:34</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>18</itunes:episode><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><podcast:episode>18</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:author>Rob Shields</itunes:author></item><item><title>&quot;Sticking and Staying&quot;, Discarded Bodies, and Pumpkin-Spice Jesus</title><itunes:title>&quot;Sticking and Staying&quot;, Discarded Bodies, and Pumpkin-Spice Jesus</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Today on JUST, Rob and Jes interview Royce Hathcock about the long-term work of neighboring. Royce shares his faith story and why he thinks after 25 years on the same corner, things are only just beginning. Royce is the Executive Director of <a href="https://www.n2noutreach.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Neighbor to Neighbor</a>, a community outreach organization focused on good neighboring, and a Senior Pastor at Tapestry Church of the Nazarene. </p><ul><li>0:00 Intro&nbsp;</li><li>0:43 Episode starts</li><li>3:35 Jes's check in</li><li>5:51 Rob's check in</li><li>7:56 Rob introduces Royce</li><li>8:26 Royce joins the call</li><li>9:15 Rob gives some background on Royce</li><li>12:23 What's your story, what led you to community development?</li><li>23:44 What advice would you give yourself in 1996?</li><li>29:22 Interlude</li><li>30:35 What issues have come up over your time in Raleigh, and what assets have you found in your community?</li><li>39:20 Tell us more about One Wake</li><li>48:21 Have you had a particularly meaningful fusion friendship?</li><li>51:21 What's one thing that listeners can do to show up?</li><li>54:56 Rob thanks Royce, goodbyes</li><li>56:26 Debrief</li><li>56:38 Jes's takeaways</li><li>58:50 Rob's takeaways</li><li>62:52 Rob and Jes discuss "no permanent friends"</li><li>64:38 Wrap up</li><li>67:20 Outro</li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li>Chris Pappalardo</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today on JUST, Rob and Jes interview Royce Hathcock about the long-term work of neighboring. Royce shares his faith story and why he thinks after 25 years on the same corner, things are only just beginning. Royce is the Executive Director of <a href="https://www.n2noutreach.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Neighbor to Neighbor</a>, a community outreach organization focused on good neighboring, and a Senior Pastor at Tapestry Church of the Nazarene. </p><ul><li>0:00 Intro&nbsp;</li><li>0:43 Episode starts</li><li>3:35 Jes's check in</li><li>5:51 Rob's check in</li><li>7:56 Rob introduces Royce</li><li>8:26 Royce joins the call</li><li>9:15 Rob gives some background on Royce</li><li>12:23 What's your story, what led you to community development?</li><li>23:44 What advice would you give yourself in 1996?</li><li>29:22 Interlude</li><li>30:35 What issues have come up over your time in Raleigh, and what assets have you found in your community?</li><li>39:20 Tell us more about One Wake</li><li>48:21 Have you had a particularly meaningful fusion friendship?</li><li>51:21 What's one thing that listeners can do to show up?</li><li>54:56 Rob thanks Royce, goodbyes</li><li>56:26 Debrief</li><li>56:38 Jes's takeaways</li><li>58:50 Rob's takeaways</li><li>62:52 Rob and Jes discuss "no permanent friends"</li><li>64:38 Wrap up</li><li>67:20 Outro</li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li>Chris Pappalardo</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">4c25496b-c35d-4c7e-bcfe-e1e80e61299f</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob Shields]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2021 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/8611c52d-af6f-4dfc-b9b9-88e4a3a78b94/just-s3e17.mp3" length="162972608" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:07:54</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>17</itunes:episode><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><podcast:episode>17</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:author>Rob Shields</itunes:author></item><item><title>Critical Race Theory, White Lies, and the One Paragraph You Need to Write</title><itunes:title>Critical Race Theory, White Lies, and the One Paragraph You Need to Write</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>[Episode summary]</p><ul><li>0:00 Intro</li><li>0:42 Episode starts</li><li>1:53 Rob checks in with Jes</li><li>3:48 Jes checks in with Rob</li><li>6:03 Rob welcomes Daniel to the show</li><li>7:11 Rob introduces listeners to Daniel's work</li><li>10:10 What's your story, your justice journey?</li><li>15:48 Tell us about CRT, and what gaps do white people have in understanding it?</li><li>26:14 Interlude</li><li>26:47 How do you partner with neighborhoods?</li><li>33:55 What advice would you give an organization on creating better relationships with their neighborhoods?</li><li>38:49 Is there a fusion friendship that has impacted you the most?</li><li>44:15 What's one thing listeners can do to show up?</li><li>48:58 Jes and Rob say goodbye to Daniel</li><li>49:04 Debriefs</li><li>49:43 Jes's takeaways</li><li>51:49 Rob's takeaways</li><li>55:01 Jes and Rob wrap up</li><li>57:44 Outro</li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li>Chris Pappalardo</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[Episode summary]</p><ul><li>0:00 Intro</li><li>0:42 Episode starts</li><li>1:53 Rob checks in with Jes</li><li>3:48 Jes checks in with Rob</li><li>6:03 Rob welcomes Daniel to the show</li><li>7:11 Rob introduces listeners to Daniel's work</li><li>10:10 What's your story, your justice journey?</li><li>15:48 Tell us about CRT, and what gaps do white people have in understanding it?</li><li>26:14 Interlude</li><li>26:47 How do you partner with neighborhoods?</li><li>33:55 What advice would you give an organization on creating better relationships with their neighborhoods?</li><li>38:49 Is there a fusion friendship that has impacted you the most?</li><li>44:15 What's one thing listeners can do to show up?</li><li>48:58 Jes and Rob say goodbye to Daniel</li><li>49:04 Debriefs</li><li>49:43 Jes's takeaways</li><li>51:49 Rob's takeaways</li><li>55:01 Jes and Rob wrap up</li><li>57:44 Outro</li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li>Chris Pappalardo</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">4fa8cd56-f9ce-4f38-bdaa-9d8fdd0d66ec</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob Shields]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2021 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/3bbc5e75-fa53-42e1-876f-dc1d2e2b4317/just-s3e16.mp3" length="139914368" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>58:18</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>16</itunes:episode><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><podcast:episode>16</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:author>Rob Shields</itunes:author></item><item><title>Equine Therapy, White Repentance, and a Bright Future for Every Girl</title><itunes:title>Equine Therapy, White Repentance, and a Bright Future for Every Girl</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Joy Currey joins the show today to talk with Rob and Jes about nonprofit iteration, the importance of a good team, and the strength of triangles. Joy grew up on a farm, taught in schools in Philadelphia and Brooklyn, and in 2008 founded CORRAL, a&nbsp;faith-motivated nonprofit that prepares adolescent girls in high-risk situations with skills, resources, and opportunities so they can gain access to bright futures. </p><ul><li>0:00 Episode starts&nbsp;</li><li>2:06 Rob's check in</li><li>7:10 Jes's check in</li><li>9:40 Joy joins the call</li><li>10:03 Jes reads Joy's bio</li><li>14:00 What's your story?</li><li>25:02 What did you change about CORRAL during the pandemic?</li><li>33:19 Interlude</li><li>37:33 How do you have conversations within your organization about structural racism?</li><li>49:29 How do you have those conversations with your board or with sponsors?</li><li>54:02 How do you prioritize rest?</li><li>58:47 How can listeners show up?</li><li>62:17 Rob and Jes say goodbye to Joy</li><li>62:23 Debriefs</li><li>62:36 Jes's takeaways</li><li>65:05 Rob's takeaways</li><li>68:15 Goodbyes</li><li>68:24 Outro </li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li>Chris Pappalardo</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joy Currey joins the show today to talk with Rob and Jes about nonprofit iteration, the importance of a good team, and the strength of triangles. Joy grew up on a farm, taught in schools in Philadelphia and Brooklyn, and in 2008 founded CORRAL, a&nbsp;faith-motivated nonprofit that prepares adolescent girls in high-risk situations with skills, resources, and opportunities so they can gain access to bright futures. </p><ul><li>0:00 Episode starts&nbsp;</li><li>2:06 Rob's check in</li><li>7:10 Jes's check in</li><li>9:40 Joy joins the call</li><li>10:03 Jes reads Joy's bio</li><li>14:00 What's your story?</li><li>25:02 What did you change about CORRAL during the pandemic?</li><li>33:19 Interlude</li><li>37:33 How do you have conversations within your organization about structural racism?</li><li>49:29 How do you have those conversations with your board or with sponsors?</li><li>54:02 How do you prioritize rest?</li><li>58:47 How can listeners show up?</li><li>62:17 Rob and Jes say goodbye to Joy</li><li>62:23 Debriefs</li><li>62:36 Jes's takeaways</li><li>65:05 Rob's takeaways</li><li>68:15 Goodbyes</li><li>68:24 Outro </li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li>Chris Pappalardo</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">3ad40b24-30e4-402c-8c2a-3efeaef7da96</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob Shields]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2021 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/9cdba876-d2e5-4de9-9659-392ef164b0ce/just-s3e15.mp3" length="165148928" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:08:49</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>15</itunes:episode><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><podcast:episode>15</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:author>Rob Shields</itunes:author></item><item><title>Cheap Charity, True Neighboring &amp; 6 Degrees of Kevin Bacon</title><itunes:title>Cheap Charity, True Neighboring &amp; 6 Degrees of Kevin Bacon</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This week on JUST, Rob and Jes sit down with KJ Hill, the Pastor for Community Development and Outreach at The Summit Church in Durham. With a career that spans coaching, writing, teaching, and more, KJ shares a wealth of experience, learning, and wisdom about how to love your neighbor well.</p><ul><li>0:00 Episode starts&nbsp;</li><li>1:18 Jes's check in</li><li>5:21 Rob's check in</li><li>8:20 KJ joins the call</li><li>8:47 KJ's check in</li><li>9:18 Rob gives KJ's background and bio</li><li>13:54 How did you get to where you are now?</li><li>23:17 Rob reads a quote from KJ's book</li><li>25:19 KJ elaborates on the quote</li><li>29:45 What is the evolution of your philosophy on engaging community and values?</li><li>35:21 Interlude</li><li>36:46 KJ talks about the parish model</li><li>43:31 What are some examples of caring well for our neighbors?</li><li>51:07 How is taking care of refugee neighbors different than geographic neighbors?</li><li>56:24 If you could wave a magic wand over every church, what one thing would you change?</li><li>59:44 What's one practical step listeners could take?</li><li>64:04 Rob and Jes say goodbye to KJ</li><li>64:15 Debrief begins</li><li>65:00 Jes's takeaways</li><li>67:00 Rob's takeaways</li><li>71:12 Rob and Jes say goodbye</li><li>71:17 Outro</li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li>Chris Pappalardo</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week on JUST, Rob and Jes sit down with KJ Hill, the Pastor for Community Development and Outreach at The Summit Church in Durham. With a career that spans coaching, writing, teaching, and more, KJ shares a wealth of experience, learning, and wisdom about how to love your neighbor well.</p><ul><li>0:00 Episode starts&nbsp;</li><li>1:18 Jes's check in</li><li>5:21 Rob's check in</li><li>8:20 KJ joins the call</li><li>8:47 KJ's check in</li><li>9:18 Rob gives KJ's background and bio</li><li>13:54 How did you get to where you are now?</li><li>23:17 Rob reads a quote from KJ's book</li><li>25:19 KJ elaborates on the quote</li><li>29:45 What is the evolution of your philosophy on engaging community and values?</li><li>35:21 Interlude</li><li>36:46 KJ talks about the parish model</li><li>43:31 What are some examples of caring well for our neighbors?</li><li>51:07 How is taking care of refugee neighbors different than geographic neighbors?</li><li>56:24 If you could wave a magic wand over every church, what one thing would you change?</li><li>59:44 What's one practical step listeners could take?</li><li>64:04 Rob and Jes say goodbye to KJ</li><li>64:15 Debrief begins</li><li>65:00 Jes's takeaways</li><li>67:00 Rob's takeaways</li><li>71:12 Rob and Jes say goodbye</li><li>71:17 Outro</li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li>Chris Pappalardo</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">92f2f591-46fe-40a8-8f70-752fad7e4244</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob Shields]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 18 Oct 2021 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/487654e4-a8be-426b-88d7-b5ce29b3290f/just-s3e14.mp3" length="172074368" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:11:42</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><podcast:episode>14</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:author>Rob Shields</itunes:author></item><item><title>Active Citizenry, Making Politics More Human, and a Tattoo or Two</title><itunes:title>Active Citizenry, Making Politics More Human, and a Tattoo or Two</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This week on the JUST podcast, Jes and Rob interview Raleigh Mayoral Candidate Dr. Terrance Ruth. Dr. Ruth is a teacher at NC State, a former public school principal, and community organizer. </p><ul><li>0:00 Episode starts&nbsp;</li><li>1:26 Rob's check in</li><li>5:35 Jes's check in</li><li>9:10 Dr. Terrance Ruth joins the call</li><li>9:36 Jes introduces Dr. Ruth</li><li>11:59 What drove your passion around justice?</li><li>15:32 Tell us about your partnership with United Way</li><li>20:42 Interlude</li><li>22:33 Why did you decide to run for mayor?</li><li>26:37 Where would you concentrate your efforts as mayor?</li><li>32:12 What are some fusion friendships you have?</li><li>38:19 What's one thing people can do to show up?</li><li>40:44 Jes thanks Dr. Ruth for being a great role model</li><li>42:03 Dr. Ruth says goodbye</li><li>42:08 Debrief</li><li>42:52 Jes's first takeaways</li><li>44:08 Rob's takeaways</li><li>47:06 Jes's second takeaways </li><li>52:04 Jes and Rob say goodbye</li><li>52:14 Outro</li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li>Chris Pappalardo</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week on the JUST podcast, Jes and Rob interview Raleigh Mayoral Candidate Dr. Terrance Ruth. Dr. Ruth is a teacher at NC State, a former public school principal, and community organizer. </p><ul><li>0:00 Episode starts&nbsp;</li><li>1:26 Rob's check in</li><li>5:35 Jes's check in</li><li>9:10 Dr. Terrance Ruth joins the call</li><li>9:36 Jes introduces Dr. Ruth</li><li>11:59 What drove your passion around justice?</li><li>15:32 Tell us about your partnership with United Way</li><li>20:42 Interlude</li><li>22:33 Why did you decide to run for mayor?</li><li>26:37 Where would you concentrate your efforts as mayor?</li><li>32:12 What are some fusion friendships you have?</li><li>38:19 What's one thing people can do to show up?</li><li>40:44 Jes thanks Dr. Ruth for being a great role model</li><li>42:03 Dr. Ruth says goodbye</li><li>42:08 Debrief</li><li>42:52 Jes's first takeaways</li><li>44:08 Rob's takeaways</li><li>47:06 Jes's second takeaways </li><li>52:04 Jes and Rob say goodbye</li><li>52:14 Outro</li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li>Chris Pappalardo</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">2a3507bd-7c3c-47fa-9939-f7ba21166994</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob Shields]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2021 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/ee0df7f1-1e2c-4a3e-b29e-7892fea57f58/just-s3e13.mp3" length="126320768" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>52:38</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><podcast:episode>13</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:author>Rob Shields</itunes:author></item><item><title>The Role of Rest in Justice Work</title><itunes:title>The Role of Rest in Justice Work</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Jes and Rob interview Steve Swayne, director of the St. Francis Springs Retreat Center. Steve brings insights into the value of rest, and how it is intrinsically tied to justice work.</p><ul><li>0:00 Intro</li><li>0:43 Episode starts</li><li>2:01 Jes’s check in</li><li>4:44 Rob’s check in</li><li>6:29 Rob frames up the episode</li><li>7:22 Steve joins the call</li><li>7:30 Rob introduces Steve</li><li>9:25 Rob shares some stats for the episode</li><li>11:18 How has the pandemic impacted our relationship with rest?</li><li>15:22 What role does rest and reflection play in justice work?</li><li>18:45 Interlude</li><li>21:33 What is the biggest impact of the Center?</li><li>23:25 Jes gives the Center a personal shout out</li><li>27:00 Why is justice and equity a core value for the Center?</li><li>33:39 What’s one step listeners can take towards a healthier relationship with rest?</li><li>35:14 Tim Cook’s strategies for rest</li><li>38:00 Rob thanks Steve and wraps up</li><li>38:15 Outro</li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li>Chris Pappalardo</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jes and Rob interview Steve Swayne, director of the St. Francis Springs Retreat Center. Steve brings insights into the value of rest, and how it is intrinsically tied to justice work.</p><ul><li>0:00 Intro</li><li>0:43 Episode starts</li><li>2:01 Jes’s check in</li><li>4:44 Rob’s check in</li><li>6:29 Rob frames up the episode</li><li>7:22 Steve joins the call</li><li>7:30 Rob introduces Steve</li><li>9:25 Rob shares some stats for the episode</li><li>11:18 How has the pandemic impacted our relationship with rest?</li><li>15:22 What role does rest and reflection play in justice work?</li><li>18:45 Interlude</li><li>21:33 What is the biggest impact of the Center?</li><li>23:25 Jes gives the Center a personal shout out</li><li>27:00 Why is justice and equity a core value for the Center?</li><li>33:39 What’s one step listeners can take towards a healthier relationship with rest?</li><li>35:14 Tim Cook’s strategies for rest</li><li>38:00 Rob thanks Steve and wraps up</li><li>38:15 Outro</li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li>Chris Pappalardo</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">cf0d4eaa-536d-4501-b364-38d556f0a7b3</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob Shields]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 04 Oct 2021 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/8d340305-9801-405e-9b2a-8cba6cf5c1fe/just-s3e12.mp3" length="92823488" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>38:41</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><podcast:episode>12</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:author>Rob Shields</itunes:author></item><item><title>Equity Before Birth</title><itunes:title>Equity Before Birth</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>The United States has more money in our healthcare system than any other country in the world. Yet we also have the worst relative outcomes for mothers and infants. Join us as Joy Spencer explores why that is and where the inequity stems from. Can the system be fixed?</p><ul><li>0:00 Episode starts&nbsp;</li><li>0:48 Check ins</li><li>5:20 Joy joins the call</li><li>5:38 Jes introduces Joy</li><li>8:35 Joy’s check in</li><li>9:47 Why do you do this work?</li><li>15:40 What sets you apart?</li><li>20:43 What motivates you?</li><li>24:50 Interlude</li><li>26:33 What is an important fusion friendship for you?</li><li>28:47 What about the policy side of things?</li><li>34:06 What does your dream future look like?</li><li>40:18 How can listeners show up?</li><li>43:33 Goodbyes</li><li>44:10 Debriefs (Jes starts)</li><li>46:29 Rob’s takeaways</li><li>52:50 Rob and Jes say goodbye</li><li>53:00 Outro</li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li>Chris Pappalardo</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The United States has more money in our healthcare system than any other country in the world. Yet we also have the worst relative outcomes for mothers and infants. Join us as Joy Spencer explores why that is and where the inequity stems from. Can the system be fixed?</p><ul><li>0:00 Episode starts&nbsp;</li><li>0:48 Check ins</li><li>5:20 Joy joins the call</li><li>5:38 Jes introduces Joy</li><li>8:35 Joy’s check in</li><li>9:47 Why do you do this work?</li><li>15:40 What sets you apart?</li><li>20:43 What motivates you?</li><li>24:50 Interlude</li><li>26:33 What is an important fusion friendship for you?</li><li>28:47 What about the policy side of things?</li><li>34:06 What does your dream future look like?</li><li>40:18 How can listeners show up?</li><li>43:33 Goodbyes</li><li>44:10 Debriefs (Jes starts)</li><li>46:29 Rob’s takeaways</li><li>52:50 Rob and Jes say goodbye</li><li>53:00 Outro</li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li>Chris Pappalardo</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">4a6c876d-63b6-4a1d-b668-2927da32f22a</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Capitol Broadcasting Company]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2021 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/f96318f1-37d9-472f-9716-cab9674ae695/just-s3e11.mp3" length="128252288" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>53:26</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><podcast:episode>11</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:author>Capitol Broadcasting Company</itunes:author></item><item><title>Trauma &amp; Injustice</title><itunes:title>Trauma &amp; Injustice</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Join our guest Sonia Wang from <a href="http://newcommunityoutreach.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">New Community Covenant Church's Community Outreach Program</a> as she talks about how her work as a teacher and administrator on the south side of Chicago influences her work today. What does it mean to define Restorative Justice as an ecosystem -- or as a lifestyle? What does it mean to be stuck as the result of Trauma? Let's talk about it.</p><ul><li>0:43 Episode starts</li><li>1:42 Jes’s check in</li><li>3:38 Rob’s check in</li><li>6:56 Rob introduces Sonia</li><li>7:21 Sonia joins the call</li><li>7:39 Sonia’s check in</li><li>9:16 Rob reads Sonia’s bio</li><li>11:59 What led you to this work?</li><li>17:32 Understanding intersectionality among young people</li><li>21:54 What is a day in the life like?</li><li>25:18 Interlude</li><li>26:52 How do people process trauma and do good work?</li><li>33:28 What does it mean to live out sankofa?</li><li>37:55 Where do you find hope?</li><li>40:37 How can listeners show up?</li><li>41:52 Where can listeners find you?</li><li>42:41 Wrap up</li><li>42:57 Jes’s takeaways</li><li>45:56 Rob’s takeaways</li><li>49:58 Outro</li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li>Chris Pappalardo</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Join our guest Sonia Wang from <a href="http://newcommunityoutreach.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">New Community Covenant Church's Community Outreach Program</a> as she talks about how her work as a teacher and administrator on the south side of Chicago influences her work today. What does it mean to define Restorative Justice as an ecosystem -- or as a lifestyle? What does it mean to be stuck as the result of Trauma? Let's talk about it.</p><ul><li>0:43 Episode starts</li><li>1:42 Jes’s check in</li><li>3:38 Rob’s check in</li><li>6:56 Rob introduces Sonia</li><li>7:21 Sonia joins the call</li><li>7:39 Sonia’s check in</li><li>9:16 Rob reads Sonia’s bio</li><li>11:59 What led you to this work?</li><li>17:32 Understanding intersectionality among young people</li><li>21:54 What is a day in the life like?</li><li>25:18 Interlude</li><li>26:52 How do people process trauma and do good work?</li><li>33:28 What does it mean to live out sankofa?</li><li>37:55 Where do you find hope?</li><li>40:37 How can listeners show up?</li><li>41:52 Where can listeners find you?</li><li>42:41 Wrap up</li><li>42:57 Jes’s takeaways</li><li>45:56 Rob’s takeaways</li><li>49:58 Outro</li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li>Chris Pappalardo</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">4f1266bc-f7cb-4570-bc9f-2cfddd75e29d</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Capitol Broadcasting Company]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2021 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/d9a2ec1b-4c29-4d1d-a997-300afa6e6c56/just-s3e10.mp3" length="121164680" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>50:29</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><podcast:episode>10</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:author>Capitol Broadcasting Company</itunes:author></item><item><title>Which America Do You Live In?</title><itunes:title>Which America Do You Live In?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>The script gets flipped on this episode of JUST, as Rob and Jes take to the guest seats and our editor, Chris Pappalardo, interviews them. They discuss the nuances of <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/07/george-packer-four-americas/619012/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“How America Fractured Into Four Parts”</a> by George Packer, which we highly recommend reading alongside this episode!</p><ul><li>0:00 Episode starts&nbsp;</li><li>2:08 Jes’s check in</li><li>5:28 Rob’s check in</li><li>7:24 Chris joins the call</li><li>9:11 Rob introduces Chris</li><li>11:20 Chris frames the episode</li><li>12:15 How do Rob and Jes frame the “four Americas”?</li><li>12:25 Rob’s answer</li><li>13:55 Jes’s answer</li><li>17:33 Who are the people in these archetypes?</li><li>19:26 Jes talks about the “real America” archetype</li><li>21:00 Interlude</li><li>22:02 Where do Rob and Jes place themselves in the Four Americas?</li><li>22:09 Rob’s answer</li><li>23:11 Jes’s answer</li><li>25:52 What are the issues with the “Just America” archetype?</li><li>26:39 Rob’s answer</li><li>28:44 Jes’s answer</li><li>31:09 How do you reach across the line?</li><li>31:16 Rob’s answer</li><li>33:22 Jes’s answer</li><li>36:31 How are Rob and Jes going to show up moving forward?</li><li>36:39 Rob’s answer</li><li>38:30 Jes’s answer</li><li>41:39 Wrap up</li><li>42:48 Outro</li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li>Chris Pappalardo</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The script gets flipped on this episode of JUST, as Rob and Jes take to the guest seats and our editor, Chris Pappalardo, interviews them. They discuss the nuances of <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/07/george-packer-four-americas/619012/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“How America Fractured Into Four Parts”</a> by George Packer, which we highly recommend reading alongside this episode!</p><ul><li>0:00 Episode starts&nbsp;</li><li>2:08 Jes’s check in</li><li>5:28 Rob’s check in</li><li>7:24 Chris joins the call</li><li>9:11 Rob introduces Chris</li><li>11:20 Chris frames the episode</li><li>12:15 How do Rob and Jes frame the “four Americas”?</li><li>12:25 Rob’s answer</li><li>13:55 Jes’s answer</li><li>17:33 Who are the people in these archetypes?</li><li>19:26 Jes talks about the “real America” archetype</li><li>21:00 Interlude</li><li>22:02 Where do Rob and Jes place themselves in the Four Americas?</li><li>22:09 Rob’s answer</li><li>23:11 Jes’s answer</li><li>25:52 What are the issues with the “Just America” archetype?</li><li>26:39 Rob’s answer</li><li>28:44 Jes’s answer</li><li>31:09 How do you reach across the line?</li><li>31:16 Rob’s answer</li><li>33:22 Jes’s answer</li><li>36:31 How are Rob and Jes going to show up moving forward?</li><li>36:39 Rob’s answer</li><li>38:30 Jes’s answer</li><li>41:39 Wrap up</li><li>42:48 Outro</li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li>Chris Pappalardo</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">cd62ab51-dbfa-4c56-b1d6-924c388e80dd</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Capitol Broadcasting Company]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2021 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/b9894ac3-9c03-4514-aae9-3b689fe80831/just-s3e9.mp3" length="103697408" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>43:12</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><podcast:episode>9</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:author>Capitol Broadcasting Company</itunes:author></item><item><title>Crossover: Juneteenth</title><itunes:title>Crossover: Juneteenth</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this special bonus episode of JUST, learn more about Juneteenth with the folks from Black History For White People. From their site:</p><p>We first cover what was going on in the nation before the emancipation proclamation, then zoom in on Texas specifically and what the culture was like, share some stories from the past, and tie the throughline to why and how people celebrate Juneteenth.</p><p><a href="https://redcircle.com/shows/black-history-for-white-people" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black History For White People website</a></p><p>For bonus content, full interviews, and the ability to vote for future topics, $5/month supports us at&nbsp;<a href="https://app.redcircle.com/shows/c7b8dfa0-27a2-4769-a4ac-3f0dc2963dee/ep/patreon.com/blackhistoryforwhitepeople" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/blackhistoryforwhitepeople</a>.</p><p>Check us out on Twitter&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/BHforWP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@BHforWP</a>&nbsp;and Instagram&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/blackhistoryforwhitepeople/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@BlackHistoryForWhitePeople</a>&nbsp;or feel free to email us at hello@blackhistoryforwhitepeople.com.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this special bonus episode of JUST, learn more about Juneteenth with the folks from Black History For White People. From their site:</p><p>We first cover what was going on in the nation before the emancipation proclamation, then zoom in on Texas specifically and what the culture was like, share some stories from the past, and tie the throughline to why and how people celebrate Juneteenth.</p><p><a href="https://redcircle.com/shows/black-history-for-white-people" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black History For White People website</a></p><p>For bonus content, full interviews, and the ability to vote for future topics, $5/month supports us at&nbsp;<a href="https://app.redcircle.com/shows/c7b8dfa0-27a2-4769-a4ac-3f0dc2963dee/ep/patreon.com/blackhistoryforwhitepeople" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">patreon.com/blackhistoryforwhitepeople</a>.</p><p>Check us out on Twitter&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/BHforWP" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@BHforWP</a>&nbsp;and Instagram&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/blackhistoryforwhitepeople/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@BlackHistoryForWhitePeople</a>&nbsp;or feel free to email us at hello@blackhistoryforwhitepeople.com.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">9c3ec372-ced3-4739-a3e2-dfca3b6bb03a</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Capitol Broadcasting Company]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2021 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/16166d8f-7703-4bd4-a772-2dafa6773b92/just-s3-juneteenth-crossover.mp3" length="186665240" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:17:47</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><podcast:episode>8</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:author>Capitol Broadcasting Company</itunes:author><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/0f005369-838c-4101-b25a-9089639159a9/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>Picking Up Pennies</title><itunes:title>Picking Up Pennies</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This week on Just, Rob and Jes interview Josephe Feathersone, Vice President of Programs at the <a href="https://dci-nc.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Durham Children’s Initiative</a> about kids returning to school and the impact of the pandemic on learning and education. He shares stories of resilience and explains why he picks up every penny he sees.</p><ul><li>0:00 Episode starts&nbsp;</li><li>1:28 Jes checks in with Rob</li><li>2:53 Rob checks in with Jes</li><li>5:58 Jes frames up the conversation</li><li>7:24 Jes intros Josephe’s bio</li><li>9:04 Josephe joins the conversation</li><li>10:11 Jes checks in with Josephe</li><li>11:09 Josephe describes his work with DCI</li><li>15:10 What barriers were students and families navigating before the pandemic?</li><li>19:21 What layers are you seeing in the impact on young people?</li><li>23:30 Interlude</li><li>23:45 Rob digs in deeper to Josephe’s point about post-Covid change in education</li><li>25:48 What lessons have you learned from your students?</li><li>27:43 Josephe reflects on George Floyd</li><li>32:09 Do we repair within the system or rebuild from the ground up?</li><li>36:05 What gives you hope?</li><li>36:18 The penny story</li><li>39:33 How can listeners show up?</li><li>42:23 Josephe leaves the conversation</li><li>42:28 Debrief begins</li><li>44:40 Jes’s takeaways</li><li>46:21 Rob and Jes talk about George Floyd</li><li>51:00 Rob talks about entering each other’s stories</li><li>52:46 Outro</li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li>Chris Pappalardo</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week on Just, Rob and Jes interview Josephe Feathersone, Vice President of Programs at the <a href="https://dci-nc.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Durham Children’s Initiative</a> about kids returning to school and the impact of the pandemic on learning and education. He shares stories of resilience and explains why he picks up every penny he sees.</p><ul><li>0:00 Episode starts&nbsp;</li><li>1:28 Jes checks in with Rob</li><li>2:53 Rob checks in with Jes</li><li>5:58 Jes frames up the conversation</li><li>7:24 Jes intros Josephe’s bio</li><li>9:04 Josephe joins the conversation</li><li>10:11 Jes checks in with Josephe</li><li>11:09 Josephe describes his work with DCI</li><li>15:10 What barriers were students and families navigating before the pandemic?</li><li>19:21 What layers are you seeing in the impact on young people?</li><li>23:30 Interlude</li><li>23:45 Rob digs in deeper to Josephe’s point about post-Covid change in education</li><li>25:48 What lessons have you learned from your students?</li><li>27:43 Josephe reflects on George Floyd</li><li>32:09 Do we repair within the system or rebuild from the ground up?</li><li>36:05 What gives you hope?</li><li>36:18 The penny story</li><li>39:33 How can listeners show up?</li><li>42:23 Josephe leaves the conversation</li><li>42:28 Debrief begins</li><li>44:40 Jes’s takeaways</li><li>46:21 Rob and Jes talk about George Floyd</li><li>51:00 Rob talks about entering each other’s stories</li><li>52:46 Outro</li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li>Chris Pappalardo</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">ecfb665a-d25a-4f27-b954-68e46a4f3cba</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Capitol Broadcasting Company]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2021 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/2cee9b0a-5fec-42e2-bd14-31204cc70660/just-s3e7.mp3" length="127890128" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>53:17</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><podcast:episode>7</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:author>Capitol Broadcasting Company</itunes:author></item><item><title>Jubilee Home: Re-entry that Restores</title><itunes:title>Jubilee Home: Re-entry that Restores</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Dave Crispell joins Jes and Rob this week in a discussion about restorative justice and getting proximate. Dave is the co-founder of <a href="https://www.jubilee-home.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jubilee Home</a>, which works with young men in the Durham community to create a place that bridges the gap between incarceration and full independence.&nbsp;</p><ul><li>0:00 Episode starts&nbsp;</li><li>0:47 Jes checks in with Rob</li><li>2:21 Rob checks in with Jes</li><li>5:21 Rob begins introducing Dave</li><li>7:16 Dave joins the call</li><li>7:24 Rob gives Dave’s bio</li><li>9:33 Rob checks in with David</li><li>11:00 Dave tells his origin story</li><li>25:34 Dave explains the name “Jubilee Home”</li><li>32:00 Interlude</li><li>37:54 What does success look like for Jubilee Home?</li><li>48:42 How can listeners show up?</li><li>51:30 Rob and Jes thank Dave for joining</li><li>52:11 Debriefs</li><li>52:42 Rob’s takeaways</li><li>56:29 Jes’s takeaways</li><li>61:07 outro</li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li>Chris Pappalardo</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave Crispell joins Jes and Rob this week in a discussion about restorative justice and getting proximate. Dave is the co-founder of <a href="https://www.jubilee-home.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jubilee Home</a>, which works with young men in the Durham community to create a place that bridges the gap between incarceration and full independence.&nbsp;</p><ul><li>0:00 Episode starts&nbsp;</li><li>0:47 Jes checks in with Rob</li><li>2:21 Rob checks in with Jes</li><li>5:21 Rob begins introducing Dave</li><li>7:16 Dave joins the call</li><li>7:24 Rob gives Dave’s bio</li><li>9:33 Rob checks in with David</li><li>11:00 Dave tells his origin story</li><li>25:34 Dave explains the name “Jubilee Home”</li><li>32:00 Interlude</li><li>37:54 What does success look like for Jubilee Home?</li><li>48:42 How can listeners show up?</li><li>51:30 Rob and Jes thank Dave for joining</li><li>52:11 Debriefs</li><li>52:42 Rob’s takeaways</li><li>56:29 Jes’s takeaways</li><li>61:07 outro</li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li>Chris Pappalardo</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">848824a9-0db6-41c8-aa6c-a5b66fcbd01a</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Capitol Broadcasting Company]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2021 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/7224adf6-3c5d-4bbd-a65b-bdb0ec8aa256/just-s3e6.mp3" length="147540296" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:01:29</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><podcast:episode>6</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:author>Capitol Broadcasting Company</itunes:author></item><item><title>Racial Justice and the White Church</title><itunes:title>Racial Justice and the White Church</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>David Swanson, pastor of <a href="http://newcommunitycovenant.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">New Community Covenant Church</a>, joins Rob and Jes on this episode of JUST. David is the author of “Rediscipling the White Church”, and also serves as the CEO of <a href="http://newcommunityoutreach.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">New Community Outreach</a>, a non-profit organization working to reduce causes of trauma and raise opportunities for equity in Chicago.</p><ul><li>0:00 Episode starts&nbsp;</li><li>1:30 Jes’s check in</li><li>4:08 Rob’s check in</li><li>6:02 David joins the conversation</li><li>7:09 Rob gives some background on David</li><li>10:00 How did David come to care about issues of justice and race?</li><li>13:24 Jes asks David to define and explain the title of his book</li><li>15:22 David describes three assumptions or tools that white organizations often use when addressing inequity</li><li>18:35 David acknowledges that there are many people against diversity, but he believes there is a large group that genuinely wants diversity and doesn’t know how to get there</li><li>20:24 Rob asks how the increased awareness of injustice impacts David’s book and message</li><li>21:35 The gravity of race is with those of us who are white</li><li>23:38 Interlude</li><li>24:05 Jes asks for some examples of how David’s church has been successful in cultivating diversity</li><li>25:08 Connecting discipleship with racial justice, instead of viewing it as ministry</li><li>26:09 David tells a story about two pastors who developed a fusion friendship that changed their churches</li><li>29:41 A relationship isn’t evidence of fixing injustice, it’s an ecosystem from which to work</li><li>30:57 Rob asks David for personal examples of fusion friendships that shaped his life</li><li>33:10 David shares his relationship with one of his mentors</li><li>34:39 Jes calls for the show up moment</li><li>36:15 David reframes to “what do I need to do to become more trustworthy to my friends and neighbors of color?”</li><li>39:23 Jes asks if there’s a network or high-level organization to coordinate this change</li><li>40:00 Rob gets “voluntold” to start the network</li><li>42:23 Jes calls for galvanization of racial reconciliation work</li><li>44:07 Rob thanks David for joining the show</li><li>44:54 David leaves the conversation</li><li>44:58 Debrief begins, Jes’s takeaways</li><li>45:47 Rob’s takeaways</li><li>50:19 Goodbyes and outro</li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li>Chris Pappalardo</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Swanson, pastor of <a href="http://newcommunitycovenant.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">New Community Covenant Church</a>, joins Rob and Jes on this episode of JUST. David is the author of “Rediscipling the White Church”, and also serves as the CEO of <a href="http://newcommunityoutreach.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">New Community Outreach</a>, a non-profit organization working to reduce causes of trauma and raise opportunities for equity in Chicago.</p><ul><li>0:00 Episode starts&nbsp;</li><li>1:30 Jes’s check in</li><li>4:08 Rob’s check in</li><li>6:02 David joins the conversation</li><li>7:09 Rob gives some background on David</li><li>10:00 How did David come to care about issues of justice and race?</li><li>13:24 Jes asks David to define and explain the title of his book</li><li>15:22 David describes three assumptions or tools that white organizations often use when addressing inequity</li><li>18:35 David acknowledges that there are many people against diversity, but he believes there is a large group that genuinely wants diversity and doesn’t know how to get there</li><li>20:24 Rob asks how the increased awareness of injustice impacts David’s book and message</li><li>21:35 The gravity of race is with those of us who are white</li><li>23:38 Interlude</li><li>24:05 Jes asks for some examples of how David’s church has been successful in cultivating diversity</li><li>25:08 Connecting discipleship with racial justice, instead of viewing it as ministry</li><li>26:09 David tells a story about two pastors who developed a fusion friendship that changed their churches</li><li>29:41 A relationship isn’t evidence of fixing injustice, it’s an ecosystem from which to work</li><li>30:57 Rob asks David for personal examples of fusion friendships that shaped his life</li><li>33:10 David shares his relationship with one of his mentors</li><li>34:39 Jes calls for the show up moment</li><li>36:15 David reframes to “what do I need to do to become more trustworthy to my friends and neighbors of color?”</li><li>39:23 Jes asks if there’s a network or high-level organization to coordinate this change</li><li>40:00 Rob gets “voluntold” to start the network</li><li>42:23 Jes calls for galvanization of racial reconciliation work</li><li>44:07 Rob thanks David for joining the show</li><li>44:54 David leaves the conversation</li><li>44:58 Debrief begins, Jes’s takeaways</li><li>45:47 Rob’s takeaways</li><li>50:19 Goodbyes and outro</li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li>Chris Pappalardo</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">fabc88af-e3d9-4cbf-9c5a-e948ebbd8321</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Capitol Broadcasting Company]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2021 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/17476d95-4144-40e6-8e68-f3e9c16d930f/just-s3e5.mp3" length="121929932" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>50:48</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><podcast:episode>5</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:author>Capitol Broadcasting Company</itunes:author></item><item><title>StepUp Durham: A Job Changes Everything</title><itunes:title>StepUp Durham: A Job Changes Everything</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Join Jes and Rob in a conversation with Elizabeth Butler, Employment Team Manager with StepUp Durham. StepUp Durham transforms lives through employment and life skills training. Their vision is to be the premier resource in Durham for people seeking to improve their lives and develop stable employment.&nbsp;</p><ul><li>0:00 Episode starts&nbsp;</li><li>1:12 Rob checks in with Jes</li><li>3:12 Jes checks in with Rob</li><li>4:52 Rob brings Elizabeth Butler onto the show</li><li>5:29 Rob introduces Elizabeth and StepUp Durham</li><li>7:51 Elizabeth tells her story and how she got where she is</li><li>10:48 Jes asks Elizabeth to elaborate on the variety of people she serves</li><li>13:19 Rob asks what one change would make the biggest difference to Elizabeth’s work</li><li>15:31 Interlude</li><li>16:02 Elizabeth describes a day in her life</li><li>18:59 Rob shares some stats from StepUp Durham</li><li>20:40 Rob asks what Elizabeth’s ultimate hope for StepUp Durham is</li><li>24:28 Elizabeth describes what drives her</li><li>27:27 Elizabeth talks about the great collaboration in Durham</li><li>28:27 Rob asks for the show up moment to land the plane</li><li>30:14 Jes closes out the interview and they say bye to Elizabeth</li><li>30:30 Debrief begins</li><li>31:02 Jes shares her takeaways</li><li>33:05 Rob shares his takeaways</li><li>36:12 Goodbyes and outro</li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li>Chris Pappalardo</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Join Jes and Rob in a conversation with Elizabeth Butler, Employment Team Manager with StepUp Durham. StepUp Durham transforms lives through employment and life skills training. Their vision is to be the premier resource in Durham for people seeking to improve their lives and develop stable employment.&nbsp;</p><ul><li>0:00 Episode starts&nbsp;</li><li>1:12 Rob checks in with Jes</li><li>3:12 Jes checks in with Rob</li><li>4:52 Rob brings Elizabeth Butler onto the show</li><li>5:29 Rob introduces Elizabeth and StepUp Durham</li><li>7:51 Elizabeth tells her story and how she got where she is</li><li>10:48 Jes asks Elizabeth to elaborate on the variety of people she serves</li><li>13:19 Rob asks what one change would make the biggest difference to Elizabeth’s work</li><li>15:31 Interlude</li><li>16:02 Elizabeth describes a day in her life</li><li>18:59 Rob shares some stats from StepUp Durham</li><li>20:40 Rob asks what Elizabeth’s ultimate hope for StepUp Durham is</li><li>24:28 Elizabeth describes what drives her</li><li>27:27 Elizabeth talks about the great collaboration in Durham</li><li>28:27 Rob asks for the show up moment to land the plane</li><li>30:14 Jes closes out the interview and they say bye to Elizabeth</li><li>30:30 Debrief begins</li><li>31:02 Jes shares her takeaways</li><li>33:05 Rob shares his takeaways</li><li>36:12 Goodbyes and outro</li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li>Chris Pappalardo</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">ca940a07-47ec-4c91-a179-4140f3963628</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Capitol Broadcasting Company]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2021 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/14bf619b-8ad4-4fc8-8812-8aa2656729f6/just-s3e4.mp3" length="88046528" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>36:41</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><podcast:episode>4</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:author>Capitol Broadcasting Company</itunes:author></item><item><title>Derigging the Real Estate Game</title><itunes:title>Derigging the Real Estate Game</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Jes and Rob interview Eve Picker of Small Change about Impact Investing in real estate. Eve is the founder and CEO of Small Change, a real estate investment crowdfunding platform.</p><ul><li>0:00 Episode starts&nbsp;</li><li>2:09 Rob’s check in</li><li>5:13 Jes’s check in</li><li>8:56 Eve joins the conversation</li><li>9:20 Jes introduces Eve</li><li>10:50 Eve’s check in</li><li>14:30 Jes asks about Eve’s work</li><li>17:15 Eve talks about the wide range of people that are real estate developers</li><li>21:16 Eve talks about new laws that allow a shift in crowdfunding from donations to investment</li><li>23:54 Eve talks about the unfairness of exclusivity</li><li>25:44 Eve explains accredited investors and the lack of access to real estate</li><li>27:37 Eve describes the ways Small Change protects investors</li><li>28:52 Interlude</li><li>29:04 Jes asks about the impact of Eve’s work, specifically around gentrification</li><li>31:19 Eve talks about a possible tool to protect people from gentrification</li><li>34:34 Eve talks about the differences she sees between cities like Pittsburgh and Atlanta</li><li>36:20 Rob asks Eve about fusion friendships she’s experienced</li><li>38:00 Eve explains that part of the reason for Small Change is to explain real estate in plain English</li><li>39:53 Jes offers some show up moments</li><li>41:13 Debrief begins</li><li>41:22 Rob’s takeaways</li><li>44:55 Jes’s takeaways</li><li>48:56 Outro</li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li>Chris Pappalardo</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jes and Rob interview Eve Picker of Small Change about Impact Investing in real estate. Eve is the founder and CEO of Small Change, a real estate investment crowdfunding platform.</p><ul><li>0:00 Episode starts&nbsp;</li><li>2:09 Rob’s check in</li><li>5:13 Jes’s check in</li><li>8:56 Eve joins the conversation</li><li>9:20 Jes introduces Eve</li><li>10:50 Eve’s check in</li><li>14:30 Jes asks about Eve’s work</li><li>17:15 Eve talks about the wide range of people that are real estate developers</li><li>21:16 Eve talks about new laws that allow a shift in crowdfunding from donations to investment</li><li>23:54 Eve talks about the unfairness of exclusivity</li><li>25:44 Eve explains accredited investors and the lack of access to real estate</li><li>27:37 Eve describes the ways Small Change protects investors</li><li>28:52 Interlude</li><li>29:04 Jes asks about the impact of Eve’s work, specifically around gentrification</li><li>31:19 Eve talks about a possible tool to protect people from gentrification</li><li>34:34 Eve talks about the differences she sees between cities like Pittsburgh and Atlanta</li><li>36:20 Rob asks Eve about fusion friendships she’s experienced</li><li>38:00 Eve explains that part of the reason for Small Change is to explain real estate in plain English</li><li>39:53 Jes offers some show up moments</li><li>41:13 Debrief begins</li><li>41:22 Rob’s takeaways</li><li>44:55 Jes’s takeaways</li><li>48:56 Outro</li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li>Chris Pappalardo</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">7fc3675c-af58-4b33-92a0-f059f592f869</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Capitol Broadcasting Company]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2021 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/734d5887-4f2f-467a-ac1d-8f9326bfbcf3/just-s3e3.mp3" length="118460720" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>49:22</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><podcast:episode>3</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:author>Capitol Broadcasting Company</itunes:author></item><item><title>Closing the Racial Wealth Gap</title><itunes:title>Closing the Racial Wealth Gap</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This episode of the JUST podcast features Keith Daniel &amp; Tom Droege. As co-founders of Resilient Ventures, their mission is to close the wealth gap by expanding access to capital, networks, and opportunity to Black entrepreneurs. Tune in to hear your more about Resilient Ventures, the problem they are aiming to solve, and the importance of relational friendships over transactional relationships.</p><p>0:00 Episode starts&nbsp;</p><p>0:43 Personal check-ins start</p><p>1:37 Rob encourages people to go listen to the first episode</p><p>2:40 Jes talks about reading Best of Enemies and enjoys all of the history being brought to life</p><p>3:56 Rob talks about how the sunshine is affecting his mental health in positive ways after all the rain</p><p>7:06 Keith Daniels and Tom Droege with Resilient Ventures joins the conversation</p><p>8:03 Rob introduces the mission of Resilient Ventures and Keith and Tom</p><p>10:41 Rob asks about the history of Resilievent Ventures, the problem they are aiming to solve, how it is unique, and why the name</p><p>12:16 Tom talks about asking questions being a foundation to come up with solutions</p><p>14:37 Jes talks about the creativity that comes out of black communities that are not able to grow their dreams</p><p>16:36 Keith talks about resilient being a loaded word for the city of Durham and being inspired by a Biblical motivation and their own lives being marked by resilient</p><p>22:03 Jes asks what they have seen and the successes they’ve watched</p><p>22:32 Keith talks about being involved in leadership that encouraged him to care about this work</p><p>26:02 Keith talks about the tension of how money is being deployed and how it is being used</p><p>26:36 Rob asks about a specific story that encapsulates the spirit of Resilient Ventures</p><p>31:29 Jes talks about differentiating between charity versus funding</p><p>35:09 Keith talks about the world being a better place if we can work along the color line in integrated ways</p><p>37:30 Interlude</p><p>39:50 Jes asks how listeners can show up both personally and with Resilient Ventures</p><p>40:11 Tom talks about Keith teaching him about relational friendships, not transactional relationships</p><p>47:01 Tom and Keith sign off the conversation</p><p>48:29 Jes feels encouraged by how much impact Resilient Ventures has because of how different Tom and Keith are</p><p>53:04 Rob talks about the educational part that Resilient Ventures engages in and how he wants to be involved in that</p><p>56:16 Conversation ends</p><p>56:17 Outro</p><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li><em>Ben Azevedo, owner of </em><a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Bear Cave Audio</em></a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This episode of the JUST podcast features Keith Daniel &amp; Tom Droege. As co-founders of Resilient Ventures, their mission is to close the wealth gap by expanding access to capital, networks, and opportunity to Black entrepreneurs. Tune in to hear your more about Resilient Ventures, the problem they are aiming to solve, and the importance of relational friendships over transactional relationships.</p><p>0:00 Episode starts&nbsp;</p><p>0:43 Personal check-ins start</p><p>1:37 Rob encourages people to go listen to the first episode</p><p>2:40 Jes talks about reading Best of Enemies and enjoys all of the history being brought to life</p><p>3:56 Rob talks about how the sunshine is affecting his mental health in positive ways after all the rain</p><p>7:06 Keith Daniels and Tom Droege with Resilient Ventures joins the conversation</p><p>8:03 Rob introduces the mission of Resilient Ventures and Keith and Tom</p><p>10:41 Rob asks about the history of Resilievent Ventures, the problem they are aiming to solve, how it is unique, and why the name</p><p>12:16 Tom talks about asking questions being a foundation to come up with solutions</p><p>14:37 Jes talks about the creativity that comes out of black communities that are not able to grow their dreams</p><p>16:36 Keith talks about resilient being a loaded word for the city of Durham and being inspired by a Biblical motivation and their own lives being marked by resilient</p><p>22:03 Jes asks what they have seen and the successes they’ve watched</p><p>22:32 Keith talks about being involved in leadership that encouraged him to care about this work</p><p>26:02 Keith talks about the tension of how money is being deployed and how it is being used</p><p>26:36 Rob asks about a specific story that encapsulates the spirit of Resilient Ventures</p><p>31:29 Jes talks about differentiating between charity versus funding</p><p>35:09 Keith talks about the world being a better place if we can work along the color line in integrated ways</p><p>37:30 Interlude</p><p>39:50 Jes asks how listeners can show up both personally and with Resilient Ventures</p><p>40:11 Tom talks about Keith teaching him about relational friendships, not transactional relationships</p><p>47:01 Tom and Keith sign off the conversation</p><p>48:29 Jes feels encouraged by how much impact Resilient Ventures has because of how different Tom and Keith are</p><p>53:04 Rob talks about the educational part that Resilient Ventures engages in and how he wants to be involved in that</p><p>56:16 Conversation ends</p><p>56:17 Outro</p><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li><em>Ben Azevedo, owner of </em><a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Bear Cave Audio</em></a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li><em>Chris Pappalardo</em></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">cc8e0c12-6eaa-48bf-a1fd-1981b67c75e8</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Capitol Broadcasting Company]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2021 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/ef443cb3-c0e4-4bc4-9cd4-3ded42022e92/just-s3e2.mp3" length="136591868" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>56:55</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><podcast:episode>2</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:author>Capitol Broadcasting Company</itunes:author></item><item><title>The Best of Enemies</title><itunes:title>The Best of Enemies</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Osha Gray Davidson, author of 'The Best of Enemies' and host of the American Project podcast, shares more about the unlikely friendship of Ann Atwater, a committed civil rights activist, and C.P. Ellis, a leader in Durham's Ku Klux Klan chapter.</p><p>0:00 Episode starts&nbsp;</p><p>0:43 Personal check-ins start</p><p>2:19 Jes talks about her birthday and loving the process of getting older and her son deciding to go to Florida Atlantic</p><p>6:10 Rob talks about enrolling his son in preschool and how all of his kids will be in school</p><p>9:16 Osha Gray Davidson joins the conversation</p><p>10:15 Rob introduces Osha</p><p>11:45 Rob asks about Osha and what inspired him to tell the story in Best of Enemies</p><p>12:46 Osha talks about a big motivation for telling the story of Ann and CP was how little he knew about race</p><p>16:21 Jes asks what characteristics about both Ann and CP he admires</p><p>16:39 Osha talks about Ann’s resilience, her increased capacity to fight, and her core principles of progress</p><p>19:13 Osha talks about CP’s capacity to change</p><p>21:45 Rob introduces a theme of the season of “fusion friendships”</p><p>21:58 Rob asks how we apply lessons from Ann and CP’s relationship and how to form similar relationships</p><p>22:50 Osha answers that we need to hold fast to principles while not dehumanizing people and also recognizing that everyone has capacity to change</p><p>26:01 Osha talks about an experience where he saw a glimpse of being dehumanized as a Jew in the Midwest</p><p>29:22 Jes asks why he chose to frame the story with such an emphasis on Durham</p><p>29:45 Osha talks about how their relationship couldn’t and wouldn't have been possible if it wasn’t for the circumstances in Durham</p><p>32:53 Rob asks about the quote “race and class as the siamese twins of the south” and asks Osha to unpack that concept and how he saw that place out 50 years ago and now</p><p>34:05 Osha talks about learning how class-based solutions won’t solve race-based problems</p><p>38:35 Interlude</p><p>42:21 Jes asks about the American Project and his why</p><p>45:01 Osha talks about a shift in mindset for needing&nbsp; to address solutions, specifically when it came to reparations</p><p>47:26 Osha talks about Patrick Henry encouraging the end of slavery</p><p>54:36 Rob asks about a show-up moment</p><p>54:48 Osha encourages white people to educate themselves then align themselves with movement for justice</p><p>59:17 Osah signs off the conversation</p><p>59:50 Jes talks about change, Ann being an agent of change and CP recognizing his ability to change</p><p>1:01:48 Rob shares his reflection about Ann’s towering presence, how she never compromised truth and loved at the same time</p><p>1:04:19 Conversation ends</p><p>1:04:22 Outro</p><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Osha Gray Davidson, author of 'The Best of Enemies' and host of the American Project podcast, shares more about the unlikely friendship of Ann Atwater, a committed civil rights activist, and C.P. Ellis, a leader in Durham's Ku Klux Klan chapter.</p><p>0:00 Episode starts&nbsp;</p><p>0:43 Personal check-ins start</p><p>2:19 Jes talks about her birthday and loving the process of getting older and her son deciding to go to Florida Atlantic</p><p>6:10 Rob talks about enrolling his son in preschool and how all of his kids will be in school</p><p>9:16 Osha Gray Davidson joins the conversation</p><p>10:15 Rob introduces Osha</p><p>11:45 Rob asks about Osha and what inspired him to tell the story in Best of Enemies</p><p>12:46 Osha talks about a big motivation for telling the story of Ann and CP was how little he knew about race</p><p>16:21 Jes asks what characteristics about both Ann and CP he admires</p><p>16:39 Osha talks about Ann’s resilience, her increased capacity to fight, and her core principles of progress</p><p>19:13 Osha talks about CP’s capacity to change</p><p>21:45 Rob introduces a theme of the season of “fusion friendships”</p><p>21:58 Rob asks how we apply lessons from Ann and CP’s relationship and how to form similar relationships</p><p>22:50 Osha answers that we need to hold fast to principles while not dehumanizing people and also recognizing that everyone has capacity to change</p><p>26:01 Osha talks about an experience where he saw a glimpse of being dehumanized as a Jew in the Midwest</p><p>29:22 Jes asks why he chose to frame the story with such an emphasis on Durham</p><p>29:45 Osha talks about how their relationship couldn’t and wouldn't have been possible if it wasn’t for the circumstances in Durham</p><p>32:53 Rob asks about the quote “race and class as the siamese twins of the south” and asks Osha to unpack that concept and how he saw that place out 50 years ago and now</p><p>34:05 Osha talks about learning how class-based solutions won’t solve race-based problems</p><p>38:35 Interlude</p><p>42:21 Jes asks about the American Project and his why</p><p>45:01 Osha talks about a shift in mindset for needing&nbsp; to address solutions, specifically when it came to reparations</p><p>47:26 Osha talks about Patrick Henry encouraging the end of slavery</p><p>54:36 Rob asks about a show-up moment</p><p>54:48 Osha encourages white people to educate themselves then align themselves with movement for justice</p><p>59:17 Osah signs off the conversation</p><p>59:50 Jes talks about change, Ann being an agent of change and CP recognizing his ability to change</p><p>1:01:48 Rob shares his reflection about Ann’s towering presence, how she never compromised truth and loved at the same time</p><p>1:04:19 Conversation ends</p><p>1:04:22 Outro</p><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li><em>Ben Azevedo, owner of </em><a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Bear Cave Audio</em></a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li><em>Chris Pappalardo</em></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">3555f77a-ef97-432c-90d6-82669a083d80</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Capitol Broadcasting Company]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2021 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/e3d75a01-a8a9-4e06-8794-125c9d305a56/just-s3e1-v2.mp3" length="160545404" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:06:54</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><podcast:episode>1</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season><itunes:author>Capitol Broadcasting Company</itunes:author></item><item><title>Where Do We Go From Here: Chaos or Community?</title><itunes:title>Where Do We Go From Here: Chaos or Community?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>As we approach MLK weekend, we invite you to lean into the truths of our shared story so we can rediscover our shared humanity and reimagine a new chapter for ourselves, our communities and our nation, together. We have to be willing to learn from the injustices of our past and be willing to trace them back to the roots, both in our systems and our hearts, if we're ever going to see these wounds heal.Hear special guest Pastor James White wrestle with the question of where we go from here, chaos or community, in next week's JUST podcast double episode finale. </p><p>0:00 Episode starts&nbsp;</p><p>0:43 Personal check-ins start</p><p>1:47 Rob talks about how excited they both are about the guest</p><p>4:34 Jes talks about Martin Luther King, Jr. Day and being re-inspired by the new year</p><p>5:10 Pastor James White joins the conversation</p><p>6:40 Rob introduces James</p><p>9:24 Rob asks about one to two words that he would use to describe today</p><p>10:50 James talks about Martin Luther King, Jr. and reframing how we live in a nightmare to living in a dream</p><p>14:26 Jes asks about his story and who inspires him</p><p>15:25 James talks about being born in a post-racial illusion</p><p>20:26 James talks about growing up with two different parental views of working hard</p><p>22:24 James talks about learning how to navigate white cultures from a young age being the first in his family to go to segregated school</p><p>25:00 James talks about living in a way that your life makes a difference</p><p>29:29 Rob talks about the weight and influence of Luther’s story on his work in justice</p><p>31:32 James talks about how the black church was critical to helping these people grow into themselves after getting out of slavery</p><p>35:02 James talks about how Dr. King was exposing systemic problems at a level that made everyone uncomfortable</p><p>37:15 James talks about how Dr. King teaches in a way that he dealt with things through changing systems</p><p>38:49 Interlude</p><p>39:44 Jes asks about how he learns lessons from failures and how to practically implement that into his work and how he wants to leave the YMCA changed</p><p>43:06 James talks about the difference between his work <em>at</em> the Y versus <em>through </em>the Y</p><p>45:10 James talks about being a healthy spirit, mind and body and addressing the systems that are inequitable</p><p>49:36 Rob asks the church’s role in all of this and to do justice in a way that communities need</p><p>52:00 James talks about going to Africa to speak at a conference to present on the impact of the Middle Passage</p><p>54:04 James talks about the problem between the difference of church and who we are outside of it</p><p>59:12 James talks about being afraid when people who call themselves Christians aren’t moved to empathy when they hear stories of injustice</p><p>1:01:56 Jes asks about the biggest obstacle&nbsp;</p><p>1:03:57 James talks about missing how we see each other as humans and that humanity means that we are connected together</p><p>1:08:30 Jes encourages listeners to understand how Pastor White’s ideas are true for each of them and how that plays out in their lives and their communities</p><p>1:09:15 Rob asks how listeners can show-up and engage in the work Pastor White is doing</p><p>1:09:47 James acknowledges that this conversation requires courage and living authentically into our own stories to make peace with that</p><p>1:16:55 Conversation ends</p><p>1:16:57 Outro</p><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As we approach MLK weekend, we invite you to lean into the truths of our shared story so we can rediscover our shared humanity and reimagine a new chapter for ourselves, our communities and our nation, together. We have to be willing to learn from the injustices of our past and be willing to trace them back to the roots, both in our systems and our hearts, if we're ever going to see these wounds heal.Hear special guest Pastor James White wrestle with the question of where we go from here, chaos or community, in next week's JUST podcast double episode finale. </p><p>0:00 Episode starts&nbsp;</p><p>0:43 Personal check-ins start</p><p>1:47 Rob talks about how excited they both are about the guest</p><p>4:34 Jes talks about Martin Luther King, Jr. Day and being re-inspired by the new year</p><p>5:10 Pastor James White joins the conversation</p><p>6:40 Rob introduces James</p><p>9:24 Rob asks about one to two words that he would use to describe today</p><p>10:50 James talks about Martin Luther King, Jr. and reframing how we live in a nightmare to living in a dream</p><p>14:26 Jes asks about his story and who inspires him</p><p>15:25 James talks about being born in a post-racial illusion</p><p>20:26 James talks about growing up with two different parental views of working hard</p><p>22:24 James talks about learning how to navigate white cultures from a young age being the first in his family to go to segregated school</p><p>25:00 James talks about living in a way that your life makes a difference</p><p>29:29 Rob talks about the weight and influence of Luther’s story on his work in justice</p><p>31:32 James talks about how the black church was critical to helping these people grow into themselves after getting out of slavery</p><p>35:02 James talks about how Dr. King was exposing systemic problems at a level that made everyone uncomfortable</p><p>37:15 James talks about how Dr. King teaches in a way that he dealt with things through changing systems</p><p>38:49 Interlude</p><p>39:44 Jes asks about how he learns lessons from failures and how to practically implement that into his work and how he wants to leave the YMCA changed</p><p>43:06 James talks about the difference between his work <em>at</em> the Y versus <em>through </em>the Y</p><p>45:10 James talks about being a healthy spirit, mind and body and addressing the systems that are inequitable</p><p>49:36 Rob asks the church’s role in all of this and to do justice in a way that communities need</p><p>52:00 James talks about going to Africa to speak at a conference to present on the impact of the Middle Passage</p><p>54:04 James talks about the problem between the difference of church and who we are outside of it</p><p>59:12 James talks about being afraid when people who call themselves Christians aren’t moved to empathy when they hear stories of injustice</p><p>1:01:56 Jes asks about the biggest obstacle&nbsp;</p><p>1:03:57 James talks about missing how we see each other as humans and that humanity means that we are connected together</p><p>1:08:30 Jes encourages listeners to understand how Pastor White’s ideas are true for each of them and how that plays out in their lives and their communities</p><p>1:09:15 Rob asks how listeners can show-up and engage in the work Pastor White is doing</p><p>1:09:47 James acknowledges that this conversation requires courage and living authentically into our own stories to make peace with that</p><p>1:16:55 Conversation ends</p><p>1:16:57 Outro</p><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li><em>Ben Azevedo, owner of </em><a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Bear Cave Audio</em></a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li><em>Chris Pappalardo</em></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">559654ec-9128-4f47-a918-ee55955b7b6b</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Capitol Broadcasting Company]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2021 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/3c14f645-3155-481e-b175-ef6dea7713c3/just-20s2e18.mp3" length="185581568" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:17:20</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>18</itunes:episode><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><podcast:episode>18</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:author>Capitol Broadcasting Company</itunes:author></item><item><title>The Case for Reparations</title><itunes:title>The Case for Reparations</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>As we approach MLK weekend, we invite you to lean into the truths of our shared story so we can rediscover our shared humanity and reimagine a new chapter for ourselves, our communities and our nation, together. We have to be willing to learn from the injustices of our past and be willing to trace them back to the roots, both in our systems and our hearts, if we're ever going to see these wounds heal. Hear special guest Dr. Sandy Darity wrestle with the question of where we go from here, chaos or community, in next week's JUST podcast double episode finale. </p><p>0:00 Episode starts&nbsp;</p><p>0:43 Personal check-ins start</p><p>1:52 Rob talks about feeling the despair of the last few week’s events but feeling a renewed conviction</p><p>5:15 Jes talks about people being not surprised, and her word is being anchored</p><p>8:08 Rob frames up the last two episodes in asking the question: Where do we go from here: Chaos or Community?</p><p>11:17 Sandy Darity, Jr. joins the conversation</p><p>11:55 Rob introduces Sandy</p><p>13:13 Rob asks Sandy why this topic is so important to Sandy and how this cause became personal</p><p>13:32 Sandy talks about growing up in North Carolina and growing up in formative parts of legal segregation</p><p>15:59 Sandy talks about how reparations for descendents are not exclusively for those of slavery</p><p>18:49 Sandy talks about arguing in his book the need to close the racial wealth gap which could mean up to $10-$12 trillion dollars</p><p>20:01 Jes asks how reparations is defined, what it is and what is it not</p><p>21:08 Sandy uses his book definition of “program of acknowledgement redressing closure for a&nbsp; previous injustice”</p><p>24:13 Sandy brings up a Malcom X quote about pulling the knife out and healing the wound being two different things</p><p>29:55 Rob asks what it would look like practically to execute this plan for reparations</p><p>30:27 Sandy addresses misperceptions as to why people might disagree with this idea</p><p>32:31 Sandy talks about three things needed for a plan: 1) specific plan for who qualifies, 2) establishing what the amount should be, 3) to make direct payments to individual recipients</p><p>34:41 Interlude</p><p>36:09 Jes asks if financial reparations are deployed, how and what is that going to last in the community</p><p>39:11 Sandy addresses their argument that having wealth as a foundation is a basis for business development</p><p>45:40 Sandy talks about House Resolution 40 as a commission that is supposed to generate a reparations plan</p><p>47:37 Rob asks what the biggest obstacle is that stands in the way of execution of reparations</p><p>48:08 Sandy talks about misperceptions associated with how people think about the sources of existing racial inequality</p><p>49:47 Jes encourages listeners to read the book From Here to Equality: Reparations for Black Americans in the 21st Century</p><p>50:17 Jes asks how listeners can engage with this work</p><p>50:32 Sandy talks about the Homestead Act and how that disproportionately aided slave owners over the slaves themselves when it came to land grants</p><p>54:33 Sandy signs off the conversation</p><p>55:46 Rob talks about this problem and the solution being cleaner</p><p>59:29 Rob talks about the power of narrative and misperceptions</p><p>1:02:59 Jes talks about they why of doing this work beyond just moving us into an equitable space</p><p>1:03:28 Jes and Rob talk about holding on to a spirit of hope</p><p>1:08:17 Conversation ends</p><p>1:08:20 Outro</p><p>1:08:39 Preview of next episode</p><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer"...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As we approach MLK weekend, we invite you to lean into the truths of our shared story so we can rediscover our shared humanity and reimagine a new chapter for ourselves, our communities and our nation, together. We have to be willing to learn from the injustices of our past and be willing to trace them back to the roots, both in our systems and our hearts, if we're ever going to see these wounds heal. Hear special guest Dr. Sandy Darity wrestle with the question of where we go from here, chaos or community, in next week's JUST podcast double episode finale. </p><p>0:00 Episode starts&nbsp;</p><p>0:43 Personal check-ins start</p><p>1:52 Rob talks about feeling the despair of the last few week’s events but feeling a renewed conviction</p><p>5:15 Jes talks about people being not surprised, and her word is being anchored</p><p>8:08 Rob frames up the last two episodes in asking the question: Where do we go from here: Chaos or Community?</p><p>11:17 Sandy Darity, Jr. joins the conversation</p><p>11:55 Rob introduces Sandy</p><p>13:13 Rob asks Sandy why this topic is so important to Sandy and how this cause became personal</p><p>13:32 Sandy talks about growing up in North Carolina and growing up in formative parts of legal segregation</p><p>15:59 Sandy talks about how reparations for descendents are not exclusively for those of slavery</p><p>18:49 Sandy talks about arguing in his book the need to close the racial wealth gap which could mean up to $10-$12 trillion dollars</p><p>20:01 Jes asks how reparations is defined, what it is and what is it not</p><p>21:08 Sandy uses his book definition of “program of acknowledgement redressing closure for a&nbsp; previous injustice”</p><p>24:13 Sandy brings up a Malcom X quote about pulling the knife out and healing the wound being two different things</p><p>29:55 Rob asks what it would look like practically to execute this plan for reparations</p><p>30:27 Sandy addresses misperceptions as to why people might disagree with this idea</p><p>32:31 Sandy talks about three things needed for a plan: 1) specific plan for who qualifies, 2) establishing what the amount should be, 3) to make direct payments to individual recipients</p><p>34:41 Interlude</p><p>36:09 Jes asks if financial reparations are deployed, how and what is that going to last in the community</p><p>39:11 Sandy addresses their argument that having wealth as a foundation is a basis for business development</p><p>45:40 Sandy talks about House Resolution 40 as a commission that is supposed to generate a reparations plan</p><p>47:37 Rob asks what the biggest obstacle is that stands in the way of execution of reparations</p><p>48:08 Sandy talks about misperceptions associated with how people think about the sources of existing racial inequality</p><p>49:47 Jes encourages listeners to read the book From Here to Equality: Reparations for Black Americans in the 21st Century</p><p>50:17 Jes asks how listeners can engage with this work</p><p>50:32 Sandy talks about the Homestead Act and how that disproportionately aided slave owners over the slaves themselves when it came to land grants</p><p>54:33 Sandy signs off the conversation</p><p>55:46 Rob talks about this problem and the solution being cleaner</p><p>59:29 Rob talks about the power of narrative and misperceptions</p><p>1:02:59 Jes talks about they why of doing this work beyond just moving us into an equitable space</p><p>1:03:28 Jes and Rob talk about holding on to a spirit of hope</p><p>1:08:17 Conversation ends</p><p>1:08:20 Outro</p><p>1:08:39 Preview of next episode</p><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li><em>Ben Azevedo, owner of </em><a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Bear Cave Audio</em></a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li><em>Chris Pappalardo</em></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">af91a255-1f0f-4429-a910-8d5eddc384a3</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Capitol Broadcasting Company]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2021 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/bb811e27-cbed-4b82-b484-40431b70fc1f/just-20s2e17.mp3" length="165421928" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:08:56</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>17</itunes:episode><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><podcast:episode>17</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:author>Capitol Broadcasting Company</itunes:author></item><item><title>When Racial Injustice Hits Close to Home: Wilmington on Fire</title><itunes:title>When Racial Injustice Hits Close to Home: Wilmington on Fire</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Tune in to hear Chris Everett, director of Wilmington on Fire, tell the untold story of the only successful coup d'etat in US history and how an event over 100 years ago sent shockwaves across the nation that are still being felt today.</p><p>0:00 Episode starts&nbsp;</p><p>0:43 Personal check-ins start</p><p>5:45 Rob brings up guest Chris Everett, director of <em>Wilmington on Fire</em></p><p>6:00 Chris joins the conversation</p><p>7:27 Rob introduces Chris Everett</p><p>9:08 Jes reads the synopsis of <em>Wilmington on Fire</em></p><p>10:58 Jes asks Chris about his story</p><p>12:41 Chris talks about growing up having to do book reports and learning a lot about history</p><p>13:01 Chris talks about doing a project for school on Wilmington and discovering how little is told</p><p>14:18 Rob asks how he found all this information and why specifically this documentary</p><p>14:27 Chris talks about his uncle living in Wilmington and initially hearing about it from him</p><p>19:41 Jes asks how you bring the story to life and how long it took in the whole process</p><p>21:22 Chris recommends <em>Banish</em>, about racial massacres in the South</p><p>23:29 Chris mentions the people who helped him create the story</p><p>26:53 Interlude</p><p>29:40 Rob asks what makes the documentary so crucial at this point in history</p><p>30:56 Chris talks about the rise of conscious to elevate these stories</p><p>35:07 Jes asks about the biggest injustice in the story</p><p>35:19 Chris talks about how this was hidden to American citizens and nothing was done to correct the wrongs which led to people not knowing their full histories</p><p>37:25 Chris talks about how their has not been restitutions for this event</p><p>41:25 Rob asks what people would take away and what change it could spark</p><p>42:09 Chris hopes this film would be motivation for people to find out about their family’s histories</p><p>45:58 Jes asks how listeners can put what they learned into practice</p><p>46:07 Chris encourages listeners to vote</p><p>47:29 Chris talks about <em>Wilmington 2</em> and the focus being the present of fusion movement</p><p>51:26 Chris mentions his martial arts documentary called <em>Grand Master</em> and getting accepted into a documentary fellowship lab</p><p>53:25 Chris signs off the conversation</p><p>53:47 Rob talks about recentering his framework that this happened because of the good of multiracial coalitions were happening</p><p>55:51 Jes talks about talking about anti-racism because of the importance of recognizing the trauma around a people who are our neighbors</p><p>1:00:32 Rob encourages listeners to watch the documentary and this address their own stories</p><p>1:02:22 Conversation ends</p><p>1:02:23 Outro</p><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tune in to hear Chris Everett, director of Wilmington on Fire, tell the untold story of the only successful coup d'etat in US history and how an event over 100 years ago sent shockwaves across the nation that are still being felt today.</p><p>0:00 Episode starts&nbsp;</p><p>0:43 Personal check-ins start</p><p>5:45 Rob brings up guest Chris Everett, director of <em>Wilmington on Fire</em></p><p>6:00 Chris joins the conversation</p><p>7:27 Rob introduces Chris Everett</p><p>9:08 Jes reads the synopsis of <em>Wilmington on Fire</em></p><p>10:58 Jes asks Chris about his story</p><p>12:41 Chris talks about growing up having to do book reports and learning a lot about history</p><p>13:01 Chris talks about doing a project for school on Wilmington and discovering how little is told</p><p>14:18 Rob asks how he found all this information and why specifically this documentary</p><p>14:27 Chris talks about his uncle living in Wilmington and initially hearing about it from him</p><p>19:41 Jes asks how you bring the story to life and how long it took in the whole process</p><p>21:22 Chris recommends <em>Banish</em>, about racial massacres in the South</p><p>23:29 Chris mentions the people who helped him create the story</p><p>26:53 Interlude</p><p>29:40 Rob asks what makes the documentary so crucial at this point in history</p><p>30:56 Chris talks about the rise of conscious to elevate these stories</p><p>35:07 Jes asks about the biggest injustice in the story</p><p>35:19 Chris talks about how this was hidden to American citizens and nothing was done to correct the wrongs which led to people not knowing their full histories</p><p>37:25 Chris talks about how their has not been restitutions for this event</p><p>41:25 Rob asks what people would take away and what change it could spark</p><p>42:09 Chris hopes this film would be motivation for people to find out about their family’s histories</p><p>45:58 Jes asks how listeners can put what they learned into practice</p><p>46:07 Chris encourages listeners to vote</p><p>47:29 Chris talks about <em>Wilmington 2</em> and the focus being the present of fusion movement</p><p>51:26 Chris mentions his martial arts documentary called <em>Grand Master</em> and getting accepted into a documentary fellowship lab</p><p>53:25 Chris signs off the conversation</p><p>53:47 Rob talks about recentering his framework that this happened because of the good of multiracial coalitions were happening</p><p>55:51 Jes talks about talking about anti-racism because of the importance of recognizing the trauma around a people who are our neighbors</p><p>1:00:32 Rob encourages listeners to watch the documentary and this address their own stories</p><p>1:02:22 Conversation ends</p><p>1:02:23 Outro</p><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li><em>Ben Azevedo, owner of </em><a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Bear Cave Audio</em></a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li><em>Chris Pappalardo</em></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">fc86d814-5ec6-4660-ae60-8570096daa0e</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Capitol Broadcasting Company]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2021 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/10fd9dfc-16c5-4862-98cc-ceba56816a1e/just-s2e16.mp3" length="151392656" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:03:05</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>16</itunes:episode><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><podcast:episode>16</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:author>Capitol Broadcasting Company</itunes:author></item><item><title>What Trees Tell Us About Racism</title><itunes:title>What Trees Tell Us About Racism</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Tune in to hear Katie Rose Levin, Executive Director of TreesDurham, talk about how trees are the perfect technology to making us happy, healthy, and wealthy and to bringing economic justice to the world.</p><p>0:00 Episode starts&nbsp;</p><p>0:43 Personal check-ins start</p><p>1:20 Jes talks about being grateful to be alive during this time to see humanity and the waking up</p><p>4:01 Jes talks about going to the mountains with her son and mom as an annual retreat</p><p>5:37 Rob talks about loving buying his kids holiday presents because this is the age he remembers what presents he had</p><p>8:08 Katie Rose Levin, Executive Director of TreesDurham, joins the call</p><p>9:08 Rob introduces Katie Rose</p><p>11:57 Rob asks Katie Rose why trees</p><p>12:07 Katie Rose talks about how trees are the perfect technology to making us happy, healthy, and wealthy and to bring economic justice to the world</p><p>16:03 Jes asks Katie Rose where her passion comes from and what led her to this career</p><p>16:13 Katie Rose talks about growing up in the middle of nowhere and the woods being a refuge for her</p><p>16:38 Katie Rose talks about leading trips down to the Amazon forest during college</p><p>17:29 Katie Rose talks about being inspired by women of color in Atlanta who organized to push for better air quality for their children</p><p>20:55 Rob asks about the history of Durham’s trees and the roles they have played in perpetuating injustice in the community</p><p>22:50 Katie Rose talks about the redlining that happened in Durham in the 40s and how trees were a part of the resources allocated to white communities only</p><p>25:50 Interlude</p><p>27:47 Jes asks if she had a magic wand how she would solve this problem of environmental injustice at the larger scale that can be modeled in communities across the country</p><p>28:05 Katie Rose talks about the importance of valuing the people in front of you and nature being a part of what they deserve as humans</p><p>29:05 Katie Rose talks about going to work and bringing your whole person so that you can reflect on how decisions affect yourself and your family and giving that accessibility to everyone</p><p>34:58 Rob asks Katie Rose gives her hope that we can make more meaningful change</p><p>36:32 Katie Rose talks about having hope because she is surrounded by it</p><p>38:06 Jes asks Katie Rose for one thing people can do to push forward and show-up</p><p>38:59 Katie Rose talks about little seeds growing into trees of justice&nbsp;</p><p>41:52 Katie Rose signs off the conversation</p><p>44:58 Rob asks Jes what stood out most to her</p><p>46:03 Jes talks about seeing the environmental injustice in a more heavy light and having a new outlook to the relevance and importance of this work</p><p>47:40 Rob talks about the importance of seeing the whole justice ecosystem as an ecosystem</p><p>52:00 Rob shares the TreesDurham website to follow along with their newsletter and see volunteer opportunities</p><p>54:00 Conversation ends</p><p>54:02 Outro</p><p>54:21 Preview of next episode, a compilation of all of the previous show-up moments</p><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tune in to hear Katie Rose Levin, Executive Director of TreesDurham, talk about how trees are the perfect technology to making us happy, healthy, and wealthy and to bringing economic justice to the world.</p><p>0:00 Episode starts&nbsp;</p><p>0:43 Personal check-ins start</p><p>1:20 Jes talks about being grateful to be alive during this time to see humanity and the waking up</p><p>4:01 Jes talks about going to the mountains with her son and mom as an annual retreat</p><p>5:37 Rob talks about loving buying his kids holiday presents because this is the age he remembers what presents he had</p><p>8:08 Katie Rose Levin, Executive Director of TreesDurham, joins the call</p><p>9:08 Rob introduces Katie Rose</p><p>11:57 Rob asks Katie Rose why trees</p><p>12:07 Katie Rose talks about how trees are the perfect technology to making us happy, healthy, and wealthy and to bring economic justice to the world</p><p>16:03 Jes asks Katie Rose where her passion comes from and what led her to this career</p><p>16:13 Katie Rose talks about growing up in the middle of nowhere and the woods being a refuge for her</p><p>16:38 Katie Rose talks about leading trips down to the Amazon forest during college</p><p>17:29 Katie Rose talks about being inspired by women of color in Atlanta who organized to push for better air quality for their children</p><p>20:55 Rob asks about the history of Durham’s trees and the roles they have played in perpetuating injustice in the community</p><p>22:50 Katie Rose talks about the redlining that happened in Durham in the 40s and how trees were a part of the resources allocated to white communities only</p><p>25:50 Interlude</p><p>27:47 Jes asks if she had a magic wand how she would solve this problem of environmental injustice at the larger scale that can be modeled in communities across the country</p><p>28:05 Katie Rose talks about the importance of valuing the people in front of you and nature being a part of what they deserve as humans</p><p>29:05 Katie Rose talks about going to work and bringing your whole person so that you can reflect on how decisions affect yourself and your family and giving that accessibility to everyone</p><p>34:58 Rob asks Katie Rose gives her hope that we can make more meaningful change</p><p>36:32 Katie Rose talks about having hope because she is surrounded by it</p><p>38:06 Jes asks Katie Rose for one thing people can do to push forward and show-up</p><p>38:59 Katie Rose talks about little seeds growing into trees of justice&nbsp;</p><p>41:52 Katie Rose signs off the conversation</p><p>44:58 Rob asks Jes what stood out most to her</p><p>46:03 Jes talks about seeing the environmental injustice in a more heavy light and having a new outlook to the relevance and importance of this work</p><p>47:40 Rob talks about the importance of seeing the whole justice ecosystem as an ecosystem</p><p>52:00 Rob shares the TreesDurham website to follow along with their newsletter and see volunteer opportunities</p><p>54:00 Conversation ends</p><p>54:02 Outro</p><p>54:21 Preview of next episode, a compilation of all of the previous show-up moments</p><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li><em>Ben Azevedo, owner of </em><a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Bear Cave Audio</em></a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li><em>Chris Pappalardo</em></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">287df81b-ab65-4172-9c9e-31a6bc4466a3</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Capitol Broadcasting Company]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2020 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/33a46bd8-dd60-45a4-bd9b-890901207bc8/just-s2e14.mp3" length="131267468" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>54:42</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><podcast:episode>14</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:author>Capitol Broadcasting Company</itunes:author></item><item><title>Diversity Isn&apos;t Enough</title><itunes:title>Diversity Isn&apos;t Enough</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Tune in to hear Mekaelia Davis, Program Director of the Inclusive Economics Program at the Surdna Foundation, talk about the importance of getting comfortable with being uncomfortable and about how charity is not a replacement for justice.</p><p>0:00 Episode starts&nbsp;</p><p>2:36 Jes talks about enjoying fall and the season change</p><p>2:49 Rob asks for self-care tips from listeners</p><p>3:17 Rob welcomes on guest Mekaelia Davis</p><p>5:11 Rob introduces Mekaelia, Program Director of the Inclusive Economics program at the Surdna Foundation</p><p>6:08 Rob asks Mekaelia to share about her story, what led her to this work, and the work she is doing now</p><p>7:58 Mekaelia talks about how her career is shaped by asking herself how we give people agency and choice that dictates who has access to economic opportunity</p><p>10:00 Jes introduces Mekaelia’s article “Risks for the Future We Want”</p><p>11:15 Jes asks Mekaelia to help unpack the article to understand what we are talking about</p><p>13:44 Mekaelia talks about how racism is perpetuated by the surrounding the notion of hierarchy of who gets to have power with black people at the bottom</p><p>19:14 Rob asks Mekaelia why she started with the point of getting comfortable with being uncomfortable and why it is so important</p><p>20:08 Mekaelia talks about change being uncomfortable because we are human and we like routine and the familiar</p><p>23:29 Mekaelia encourages listeners to try to think about anything in their lives that has changed without discomfort</p><p>24:50 Jes asks Mekaelia to unpack some statistics about funding and how to disrupt the change</p><p>25:53 Mekaelia talks about the difference between project-based grant vs a general fund</p><p>29:23 Mekaelia makes the point that how we choose what is credible needs to change first</p><p>29:37 Interlude</p><p>33:11 Mekaelia makes the point that how we decide who we trust is based on these values that are rooted in racism</p><p>40:27 Rob makes the point that charity is not a replacement for justice</p><p>41:36 Rob asks Makealia her why and what gives her hope to keep going</p><p>43:07 Mekalia talks about being inspired by all of the things we have accomplished as humans and the sacrifice she is willing to make for future generations</p><p>45:43 Jes asks Mekaelia to share a show-up moment for listeners</p><p>47:05 Mekalia shares that ideas matter because what we think about, translates into what we do</p><p>50:40 Mekalia signs off of the conversation</p><p>51:27 Rob asks Jes to pick one thing that stood out the most in the conversation&nbsp;</p><p>51:39 Jes answers by saying that the conversation around trust became emotional for her</p><p>54:17 Jes asks Rob about his takeaways</p><p>55:24 Rob talks about taking away that change in our life without discomfort isn’t actually possible</p><p>57:45 Conversation ends</p><p>57:47 Outro</p><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tune in to hear Mekaelia Davis, Program Director of the Inclusive Economics Program at the Surdna Foundation, talk about the importance of getting comfortable with being uncomfortable and about how charity is not a replacement for justice.</p><p>0:00 Episode starts&nbsp;</p><p>2:36 Jes talks about enjoying fall and the season change</p><p>2:49 Rob asks for self-care tips from listeners</p><p>3:17 Rob welcomes on guest Mekaelia Davis</p><p>5:11 Rob introduces Mekaelia, Program Director of the Inclusive Economics program at the Surdna Foundation</p><p>6:08 Rob asks Mekaelia to share about her story, what led her to this work, and the work she is doing now</p><p>7:58 Mekaelia talks about how her career is shaped by asking herself how we give people agency and choice that dictates who has access to economic opportunity</p><p>10:00 Jes introduces Mekaelia’s article “Risks for the Future We Want”</p><p>11:15 Jes asks Mekaelia to help unpack the article to understand what we are talking about</p><p>13:44 Mekaelia talks about how racism is perpetuated by the surrounding the notion of hierarchy of who gets to have power with black people at the bottom</p><p>19:14 Rob asks Mekaelia why she started with the point of getting comfortable with being uncomfortable and why it is so important</p><p>20:08 Mekaelia talks about change being uncomfortable because we are human and we like routine and the familiar</p><p>23:29 Mekaelia encourages listeners to try to think about anything in their lives that has changed without discomfort</p><p>24:50 Jes asks Mekaelia to unpack some statistics about funding and how to disrupt the change</p><p>25:53 Mekaelia talks about the difference between project-based grant vs a general fund</p><p>29:23 Mekaelia makes the point that how we choose what is credible needs to change first</p><p>29:37 Interlude</p><p>33:11 Mekaelia makes the point that how we decide who we trust is based on these values that are rooted in racism</p><p>40:27 Rob makes the point that charity is not a replacement for justice</p><p>41:36 Rob asks Makealia her why and what gives her hope to keep going</p><p>43:07 Mekalia talks about being inspired by all of the things we have accomplished as humans and the sacrifice she is willing to make for future generations</p><p>45:43 Jes asks Mekaelia to share a show-up moment for listeners</p><p>47:05 Mekalia shares that ideas matter because what we think about, translates into what we do</p><p>50:40 Mekalia signs off of the conversation</p><p>51:27 Rob asks Jes to pick one thing that stood out the most in the conversation&nbsp;</p><p>51:39 Jes answers by saying that the conversation around trust became emotional for her</p><p>54:17 Jes asks Rob about his takeaways</p><p>55:24 Rob talks about taking away that change in our life without discomfort isn’t actually possible</p><p>57:45 Conversation ends</p><p>57:47 Outro</p><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li><em>Ben Azevedo, owner of </em><a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Bear Cave Audio</em></a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li><em>Chris Pappalardo</em></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">39db398f-1192-490c-a3df-9825b7891b1f</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Capitol Broadcasting Company]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2020 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/906a735e-9e59-4187-b96e-6b6c64f28d1e/just-s2e13.mp3" length="140138336" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>58:23</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><podcast:episode>13</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:author>Capitol Broadcasting Company</itunes:author></item><item><title>The Long Road to Equity in Education</title><itunes:title>The Long Road to Equity in Education</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Tune in to hear Magen Gonzalez-Smith, the Executive Director of DPS Foundation, unpack how the pandemic has fostered a sense of urgency around digital and educational equity, and how her work is focused on galvanizing community resources to help strengthen and support public schools in Durham. </p><p>0:00 Episode starts&nbsp;</p><p>0:43 Personal check-ins start</p><p>1:02 Rob talks about being hopeful because of the conversations happening on the podcast that change is possible</p><p>2:18 Jes talks about being curious as a small part of a bigger picture of where we need to go</p><p>3:32 Magen Gonzales-Smith joins the conversation</p><p>4:10 Jes introduces Magen</p><p>6:06 Jes asks Magen to pick one word to describe how she is doing</p><p>6:11 Magen talks about feeling energized about the momentum around how the community is coming together to lift up students</p><p>7:14 Jes asks Magen about her story, how she got to where she is, and where her passion for public education was derived</p><p>7:52 Magen talks about growing up in a split family where part had a lot of privilege and the other part that consisted of her dad being the first in his family to continue school past 8th grade</p><p>10:32 Rob quotes a CNN article talking about how inequalities throughout the education system are exposed by distance learning of the pandemic</p><p>11:32 Rob asks Magen about the work that the DPS Foundation does and how they work to address the inequities of public schools in Durham</p><p>11:52 Magen talks about the pandemic creating a sense of urgency among digital learning</p><p>12:40 Magen talks about how DPS Foundation is focused on creating support for the public schools to galvanize community resources to help strengthen schools</p><p>13:07 Magen shares about three ways they are responding to digital inequity in this crisis: Family Relief Fund, The Hope Network, and the Excelling Digital Equity Campaign</p><p>15:42 Magen shares about four things that are essential to successful remote learning that they are raising funds for: access to technology and internet, insuring that teachers are well-supported, insuring adequate tech support, and space conducive to their learning</p><p>19:50 Jes asks what the biggest challenge is in Magen’s work</p><p>20:11 Magen shares that the biggest challenge is that we do not have adequate funding for public education</p><p>21:44 Magen talks about wanting to be a good partner in working along organizations to be stronger together</p><p>24:52 Rob shares about Bull150’s newest exhibit called “The Schools We All Deserve”</p><p>25:08 Rob asks about the history of public school education and the importance of tackling that chapter in our story</p><p>25:55 Magen shares about a core value of the foundation being that they believe public schools can lead in dismantling systemic racism when they address current and historic systems of inequality</p><p>28:41 Magen talks about the goal that Durham public schools would more accurately reflect the communities</p><p>30:53 Rob asks Magen about what gives her hope in her work personally that keeps her going</p><p>31:15 Magen talks about feeling energized because she gets to see the incredible ways Durham shows up and cares for neighbors</p><p>33:42 Jes asks Magen how listeners can showup for the community&nbsp;</p><p>33:46 Magen shares three ways how listeners can showup: volunteering through the Durham Hope Network, giving to the Digital Equity Campaign, and amplifying messages through social media</p><p>36:58 Magen signs off the conversation</p><p>37:43 Rob shares that he takes away that Magen captures so well in her job the importance of looking at our history to be able to change how things are going now</p><p>39:12 Jes talks about the importance of acknowledging our past and future, but being able to pull ourselves out of it to be able to move forward</p><p>43:44 Conversation ends</p><p>43:47 Outro</p><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tune in to hear Magen Gonzalez-Smith, the Executive Director of DPS Foundation, unpack how the pandemic has fostered a sense of urgency around digital and educational equity, and how her work is focused on galvanizing community resources to help strengthen and support public schools in Durham. </p><p>0:00 Episode starts&nbsp;</p><p>0:43 Personal check-ins start</p><p>1:02 Rob talks about being hopeful because of the conversations happening on the podcast that change is possible</p><p>2:18 Jes talks about being curious as a small part of a bigger picture of where we need to go</p><p>3:32 Magen Gonzales-Smith joins the conversation</p><p>4:10 Jes introduces Magen</p><p>6:06 Jes asks Magen to pick one word to describe how she is doing</p><p>6:11 Magen talks about feeling energized about the momentum around how the community is coming together to lift up students</p><p>7:14 Jes asks Magen about her story, how she got to where she is, and where her passion for public education was derived</p><p>7:52 Magen talks about growing up in a split family where part had a lot of privilege and the other part that consisted of her dad being the first in his family to continue school past 8th grade</p><p>10:32 Rob quotes a CNN article talking about how inequalities throughout the education system are exposed by distance learning of the pandemic</p><p>11:32 Rob asks Magen about the work that the DPS Foundation does and how they work to address the inequities of public schools in Durham</p><p>11:52 Magen talks about the pandemic creating a sense of urgency among digital learning</p><p>12:40 Magen talks about how DPS Foundation is focused on creating support for the public schools to galvanize community resources to help strengthen schools</p><p>13:07 Magen shares about three ways they are responding to digital inequity in this crisis: Family Relief Fund, The Hope Network, and the Excelling Digital Equity Campaign</p><p>15:42 Magen shares about four things that are essential to successful remote learning that they are raising funds for: access to technology and internet, insuring that teachers are well-supported, insuring adequate tech support, and space conducive to their learning</p><p>19:50 Jes asks what the biggest challenge is in Magen’s work</p><p>20:11 Magen shares that the biggest challenge is that we do not have adequate funding for public education</p><p>21:44 Magen talks about wanting to be a good partner in working along organizations to be stronger together</p><p>24:52 Rob shares about Bull150’s newest exhibit called “The Schools We All Deserve”</p><p>25:08 Rob asks about the history of public school education and the importance of tackling that chapter in our story</p><p>25:55 Magen shares about a core value of the foundation being that they believe public schools can lead in dismantling systemic racism when they address current and historic systems of inequality</p><p>28:41 Magen talks about the goal that Durham public schools would more accurately reflect the communities</p><p>30:53 Rob asks Magen about what gives her hope in her work personally that keeps her going</p><p>31:15 Magen talks about feeling energized because she gets to see the incredible ways Durham shows up and cares for neighbors</p><p>33:42 Jes asks Magen how listeners can showup for the community&nbsp;</p><p>33:46 Magen shares three ways how listeners can showup: volunteering through the Durham Hope Network, giving to the Digital Equity Campaign, and amplifying messages through social media</p><p>36:58 Magen signs off the conversation</p><p>37:43 Rob shares that he takes away that Magen captures so well in her job the importance of looking at our history to be able to change how things are going now</p><p>39:12 Jes talks about the importance of acknowledging our past and future, but being able to pull ourselves out of it to be able to move forward</p><p>43:44 Conversation ends</p><p>43:47 Outro</p><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li><em>Ben Azevedo, owner of </em><a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Bear Cave Audio</em></a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li><em>Chris Pappalardo</em></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">c94be44e-da09-4b6a-8727-cef958497a41</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Capitol Broadcasting Company]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2020 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/4bb9f4c7-70e7-4e32-ae0b-26e3729da22f/just-s2e12.mp3" length="106553900" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>44:24</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><podcast:episode>12</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><itunes:author>Capitol Broadcasting Company</itunes:author></item><item><title>Teenage Parenthood in a Pandemic</title><itunes:title>Teenage Parenthood in a Pandemic</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Founder and Executive Director of H.E.A.R.T.S. Tameka Brown shares how teen moms and dads captured her heart and how her organization equips teen parents towards independence. </p><p>0:00 Episode starts&nbsp;</p><p>0:43 Personal check-ins start</p><p>2:57 Jes talks about having a lot going on in her personal life</p><p>5:07 Tameka Brown joins the conversation</p><p>5:30 Rob introduces Tameka</p><p>7:25 Tameka gives her personal check-in and talks about being humbled and busy</p><p>10:17 Jes asks Tameka about her story and how and why H.E.A.R.T.S. was started</p><p>10:37 Tameka shares her story of school and how teen moms became a soft spot in her heart because of her best friend</p><p>14:34 Rob asks Tameka about who she serves, the challenges they are facing, and H.E.A.R.T.S. works to address those problems</p><p>15:00 Tameka shares about her organization</p><p>16:13 Rob asks Tameka about the services H.E.A.R.T.S. provides</p><p>16:42 Tameka shares about different programs and services H.E.A.R.T.S. is able to offer to teen moms and dads</p><p>20:37 Interlude</p><p>20:57 Jes asks Tameka one thing she wished other people understood about her work</p><p>21:13 Tameka talks about how much hurt comes from how the world looks at teen pregnancy and narrows it down to statistics</p><p>24:01 Rob asks about one particular story that holds resiliency</p><p>24:23 Tameka tells two stories about two participants who have been strong</p><p>28:40 Jes asks if there was one thing Tameka could fix</p><p>29:11 Tameka talks about making sure everyone in the organization or anyone who encounters it would be touched by God</p><p>33:41 Rob asks Tameka about her why and what keeps her going on a day-to-day basis</p><p>33:59 Tameka shares how essential worship has been, how her baby girl keeps her going, and that her teen moms need her</p><p>35:55 Rob asks how listeners can show up and engage in H.E.A.R.T.S. work</p><p>36:17 Tameka encourages people to go to the website and subscribe to the newsletter, making donations, and following on social media</p><p>38:26 Tameka encourages people to support ReCity and how important it has been to be in that space</p><p>39:22 Conversation ends</p><p>39:28 Outro</p><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li><em>Ben Azevedo, owner of </em><a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Bear Cave Audio</em></a></li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li><em>Chris Pappalardo</em></li><li><br></li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Founder and Executive Director of H.E.A.R.T.S. Tameka Brown shares how teen moms and dads captured her heart and how her organization equips teen parents towards independence. </p><p>0:00 Episode starts&nbsp;</p><p>0:43 Personal check-ins start</p><p>2:57 Jes talks about having a lot going on in her personal life</p><p>5:07 Tameka Brown joins the conversation</p><p>5:30 Rob introduces Tameka</p><p>7:25 Tameka gives her personal check-in and talks about being humbled and busy</p><p>10:17 Jes asks Tameka about her story and how and why H.E.A.R.T.S. was started</p><p>10:37 Tameka shares her story of school and how teen moms became a soft spot in her heart because of her best friend</p><p>14:34 Rob asks Tameka about who she serves, the challenges they are facing, and H.E.A.R.T.S. works to address those problems</p><p>15:00 Tameka shares about her organization</p><p>16:13 Rob asks Tameka about the services H.E.A.R.T.S. provides</p><p>16:42 Tameka shares about different programs and services H.E.A.R.T.S. is able to offer to teen moms and dads</p><p>20:37 Interlude</p><p>20:57 Jes asks Tameka one thing she wished other people understood about her work</p><p>21:13 Tameka talks about how much hurt comes from how the world looks at teen pregnancy and narrows it down to statistics</p><p>24:01 Rob asks about one particular story that holds resiliency</p><p>24:23 Tameka tells two stories about two participants who have been strong</p><p>28:40 Jes asks if there was one thing Tameka could fix</p><p>29:11 Tameka talks about making sure everyone in the organization or anyone who encounters it would be touched by God</p><p>33:41 Rob asks Tameka about her why and what keeps her going on a day-to-day basis</p><p>33:59 Tameka shares how essential worship has been, how her baby girl keeps her going, and that her teen moms need her</p><p>35:55 Rob asks how listeners can show up and engage in H.E.A.R.T.S. work</p><p>36:17 Tameka encourages people to go to the website and subscribe to the newsletter, making donations, and following on social media</p><p>38:26 Tameka encourages people to support ReCity and how important it has been to be in that space</p><p>39:22 Conversation ends</p><p>39:28 Outro</p><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li><em>Ben Azevedo, owner of </em><a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Bear Cave Audio</em></a></li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li><em>Chris Pappalardo</em></li><li><br></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">073b0343-e2f9-4cb5-91ff-784fe023224e</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Capitol Broadcasting Company]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2020 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/4af2f204-1a76-4a58-af81-7655556b0bc0/just-s2e11-w-outro.mp3" length="96315392" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>40:08</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><podcast:episode>11</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:author>Capitol Broadcasting Company</itunes:author></item><item><title>Building Just Ecosystems Through Serving &amp; Solving</title><itunes:title>Building Just Ecosystems Through Serving &amp; Solving</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Guest host Charles Robinson, Founder of Robinson Consulting Group, joins Rob and special guest Donna Harris, Founder of Builders and Backers, to discuss the importance of lament in problem-solving and how to build ecosystems that are truly just. </p><p>Episode Summary:</p><p>0:00 Episode begins</p><p>0:43 Personal check-ins start</p><p>1:20 Rob introduces Charles Robinson, filling in for Jes</p><p>2:13 Rob reads Charles’s bio as an entrepreneur, marketing guru, husband, and dad</p><p>2:48 Charles gives his personal check-in, sharing about his four kids</p><p>4:23 Rob talks about processing heavy things, but clinging to hope</p><p>5:14 Rob introduces Donna Harris, CEO of Builders and Backers</p><p>8:04 Rob asks Donna for one word to describe how she is doing</p><p>8:10 Donna talks about hanging in there, but holding out on hope</p><p>8:32 Donna uses the analogy of a snow-globe of injustice and economic crisis being shaken up, but not knowing how it will settle</p><p>9:56 Charles asks Donna about her story</p><p>10:12 Donna talks about wanting to work on Wall Street</p><p>11:56 Donna talks about quitting her job and launching in a threshold of entrepreneurship as a tool that can be used to solve big problems</p><p>14:31 Rob brings up a previous conversation he heard with Donna about the importance of lament in stepping into injustice</p><p>15:25 Donna acknowledges the tendency to jump to action, to solve and answer</p><p>15:56 When we race to the solution, we skip over the critical things that build community and relationships</p><p>16:29 Donna talks about problems being emotional for people and need to be reframed to understand that</p><p>16:54 Donna shares about going to Haiti and meeting a little boy there, being broken by serving him then having to leave him</p><p>17:47 Do we care enough to solve the problems that are deep?</p><p>18:42 We have to care, and in that depth of lament, comes an openness to solutions that we might not have entertained if we had not paused to feel the full weight</p><p>19:30 Charles talks about the need to balance between going fast and going deep and the importance of relationships</p><p>20:52 Charles asks about how we actually creating flourishing cities</p><p>21:30 Donna admits that our country optimizes for wealth and for fame and we are dealing with the consequences of that on the back-end</p><p>22:46 A thriving community sees serving and solving, philanthropy and investment as a whole, in which case we are all on the same team</p><p>25:37 Poverty is a lot of little problems</p><p>26:00 Interlude</p><p>27:17 Charles asks how to figure out ways for servers and solvers to take their moments to lament then come together to serve the whole person</p><p>28:51 We not have have to be right, we are committed to solving the problem</p><p>30:26 We all have different hypotheses and care about the problem, it’s ok if we have different solutions as long as we agree with common humanity</p><p>31:44 Rob talks about the important crossover of businesses, nonprofits, and faith communities</p><p>32:17 Rob asks about the day in the life of Builders and Backers, and living out these value systems in the communities they come alongside of</p><p>32:42 Rob asks Donna about what could be solved by a magic wand that would have a ripple effect in solving injustice</p><p>33:51 Donna talks about the ten spirals of stress that work together for a system of brokenness</p><p>35:41 One part mobilizing and equipping, and we are backing the things that could make a significant debt in the brokenness of systems</p><p>36:59 There is a whole lot that can be done in our community and it starts local</p><p>38:27 Charles asks Donna her why and what keeps her going</p><p>39:00 Donna talks about being a person of faith, seeing brokenness everywhere, but knowing that problems are solvable</p><p>39:56 Donna talks about a main problem being our selfishness, wanting to get ahead and achieve, and how that inhibits us from seeing one...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guest host Charles Robinson, Founder of Robinson Consulting Group, joins Rob and special guest Donna Harris, Founder of Builders and Backers, to discuss the importance of lament in problem-solving and how to build ecosystems that are truly just. </p><p>Episode Summary:</p><p>0:00 Episode begins</p><p>0:43 Personal check-ins start</p><p>1:20 Rob introduces Charles Robinson, filling in for Jes</p><p>2:13 Rob reads Charles’s bio as an entrepreneur, marketing guru, husband, and dad</p><p>2:48 Charles gives his personal check-in, sharing about his four kids</p><p>4:23 Rob talks about processing heavy things, but clinging to hope</p><p>5:14 Rob introduces Donna Harris, CEO of Builders and Backers</p><p>8:04 Rob asks Donna for one word to describe how she is doing</p><p>8:10 Donna talks about hanging in there, but holding out on hope</p><p>8:32 Donna uses the analogy of a snow-globe of injustice and economic crisis being shaken up, but not knowing how it will settle</p><p>9:56 Charles asks Donna about her story</p><p>10:12 Donna talks about wanting to work on Wall Street</p><p>11:56 Donna talks about quitting her job and launching in a threshold of entrepreneurship as a tool that can be used to solve big problems</p><p>14:31 Rob brings up a previous conversation he heard with Donna about the importance of lament in stepping into injustice</p><p>15:25 Donna acknowledges the tendency to jump to action, to solve and answer</p><p>15:56 When we race to the solution, we skip over the critical things that build community and relationships</p><p>16:29 Donna talks about problems being emotional for people and need to be reframed to understand that</p><p>16:54 Donna shares about going to Haiti and meeting a little boy there, being broken by serving him then having to leave him</p><p>17:47 Do we care enough to solve the problems that are deep?</p><p>18:42 We have to care, and in that depth of lament, comes an openness to solutions that we might not have entertained if we had not paused to feel the full weight</p><p>19:30 Charles talks about the need to balance between going fast and going deep and the importance of relationships</p><p>20:52 Charles asks about how we actually creating flourishing cities</p><p>21:30 Donna admits that our country optimizes for wealth and for fame and we are dealing with the consequences of that on the back-end</p><p>22:46 A thriving community sees serving and solving, philanthropy and investment as a whole, in which case we are all on the same team</p><p>25:37 Poverty is a lot of little problems</p><p>26:00 Interlude</p><p>27:17 Charles asks how to figure out ways for servers and solvers to take their moments to lament then come together to serve the whole person</p><p>28:51 We not have have to be right, we are committed to solving the problem</p><p>30:26 We all have different hypotheses and care about the problem, it’s ok if we have different solutions as long as we agree with common humanity</p><p>31:44 Rob talks about the important crossover of businesses, nonprofits, and faith communities</p><p>32:17 Rob asks about the day in the life of Builders and Backers, and living out these value systems in the communities they come alongside of</p><p>32:42 Rob asks Donna about what could be solved by a magic wand that would have a ripple effect in solving injustice</p><p>33:51 Donna talks about the ten spirals of stress that work together for a system of brokenness</p><p>35:41 One part mobilizing and equipping, and we are backing the things that could make a significant debt in the brokenness of systems</p><p>36:59 There is a whole lot that can be done in our community and it starts local</p><p>38:27 Charles asks Donna her why and what keeps her going</p><p>39:00 Donna talks about being a person of faith, seeing brokenness everywhere, but knowing that problems are solvable</p><p>39:56 Donna talks about a main problem being our selfishness, wanting to get ahead and achieve, and how that inhibits us from seeing one another</p><p>42:08 Rob talks about the importance of what we optimize and who it values</p><p>44:47 Rob asks about where listeners can get involved</p><p>44:50 Donna shares <a href="http://buildersandbackers.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">buildersandbackers.com</a> to equip people to solve problems</p><p>45:53 Donna signs off of the conversation</p><p>46:08 Rob asks Charles as what stood out to him most</p><p>46:30 Charles shares about how he keeps coming back to how selfishness is a root of a lot of our community’s problems</p><p>48:00 Rob shares about how pausing and feeling the weight of the wounds so that we can develop a different set of answers</p><p>49:33 Rob talks about never moving past relationships</p><p>50:30 Outro</p><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">bfc9e445-e119-4400-8987-46e01cf8bbfc</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Capitol Broadcasting Company]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2020 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/7c83d837-5598-41c7-8b00-9bbf9f14e668/just-s2e10.mp3" length="48749096" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>50:47</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><podcast:episode>10</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:author>Capitol Broadcasting Company</itunes:author></item><item><title>Crossover: Public Symbols, Storytelling, and Racial Justice</title><itunes:title>Crossover: Public Symbols, Storytelling, and Racial Justice</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>For the first time, the JUST podcast hosted a crossover episode with the Who is my Neighbor? podcast, teaching Vera Cecelski and Georie Bryant. Tune in to understand the importance of knowing the stories of our communities and how to talk about our history in ways that seek justice.</p><p>0:00 Episode starts&nbsp;</p><p>0:43 Personal check-ins start</p><p>1:54 Rob announces crossover episode</p><p>3:01 Rob introduces Tammy, Keith, and Reynolds from DurhamCares</p><p>4:15 Jes praises Who Is My Neighbor for how they allow space for people to tell their stories</p><p>5:20 Will start to see gaps in how history is presented through questions</p><p>7:16 Rob talks about the importance of knowing the true stories of our communities</p><p>8:40 Who Is My Neighbor episode begins</p><p>9:01 Tammy introduces Vera Cecelski, site manager at Stagville State Historic Site</p><p>9:44 Tammy introduces Georie Bryant, descendent of enslaved people at Stagville</p><p>10:09 Tammy asks how they came to care about their stories and history and how it plays a role in their lives now</p><p>10:25 Vera talks about being invested in stories from a very young age because her father was a historian</p><p>14:41 Georie talks about history being a part of dinner conversations and learning about the black history in Durham in 4th grade</p><p>16:58 Georie talks about being on the Pilgrimage of Pain and Hope with his mom and learning about familial personal connections while on the tour at Stagville</p><p>18:36 Public history is a huge part of how we change the narrative</p><p>20:49 Keith asks about public symbols and historic sites in Durham and how they reflect our values</p><p>21:13 Vera shares that public symbols and spaces in Durham do not accurately reflect the people and the legacy</p><p>27:58 Georie talks about Confederate monuments in North Carolina and thinking about what those things represent for people who were indigineous and who were enslaved</p><p>32:20 Georie talks about the tension of acknowledging the wrong and giving space to process, not just wiping out the history</p><p>36:12 Reynolds asks what we should consider as we tell our history in a way that seeks justice</p><p>36:36 Georie talks about how we can not change history, so acknowledging to then be able to tell the story</p><p>43:25 Vera talks about the fundamental difference between a name on a highway and a monument</p><p>51:07 Vera talks about the importance of memory to action and enabling connectections to be forged</p><p>55:16 Tammy asks the guests who is our neighbor and what it looks like to love your neighbor</p><p>56:09 Georie talks about love meaning not letting someone do something that is harmful to themselves and being willing to confront them because you care</p><p>59:41 Vera talks about deep empathy being essential to bring someone into contact with deep narrative and discomfort that is essential to learning</p><p>1:04:36 Keith closes the conversation and thanks Vera and Georie</p><p>1:07:03 Who Is My Neighbor Episode Ends</p><p>1:07:06 Outro</p><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the first time, the JUST podcast hosted a crossover episode with the Who is my Neighbor? podcast, teaching Vera Cecelski and Georie Bryant. Tune in to understand the importance of knowing the stories of our communities and how to talk about our history in ways that seek justice.</p><p>0:00 Episode starts&nbsp;</p><p>0:43 Personal check-ins start</p><p>1:54 Rob announces crossover episode</p><p>3:01 Rob introduces Tammy, Keith, and Reynolds from DurhamCares</p><p>4:15 Jes praises Who Is My Neighbor for how they allow space for people to tell their stories</p><p>5:20 Will start to see gaps in how history is presented through questions</p><p>7:16 Rob talks about the importance of knowing the true stories of our communities</p><p>8:40 Who Is My Neighbor episode begins</p><p>9:01 Tammy introduces Vera Cecelski, site manager at Stagville State Historic Site</p><p>9:44 Tammy introduces Georie Bryant, descendent of enslaved people at Stagville</p><p>10:09 Tammy asks how they came to care about their stories and history and how it plays a role in their lives now</p><p>10:25 Vera talks about being invested in stories from a very young age because her father was a historian</p><p>14:41 Georie talks about history being a part of dinner conversations and learning about the black history in Durham in 4th grade</p><p>16:58 Georie talks about being on the Pilgrimage of Pain and Hope with his mom and learning about familial personal connections while on the tour at Stagville</p><p>18:36 Public history is a huge part of how we change the narrative</p><p>20:49 Keith asks about public symbols and historic sites in Durham and how they reflect our values</p><p>21:13 Vera shares that public symbols and spaces in Durham do not accurately reflect the people and the legacy</p><p>27:58 Georie talks about Confederate monuments in North Carolina and thinking about what those things represent for people who were indigineous and who were enslaved</p><p>32:20 Georie talks about the tension of acknowledging the wrong and giving space to process, not just wiping out the history</p><p>36:12 Reynolds asks what we should consider as we tell our history in a way that seeks justice</p><p>36:36 Georie talks about how we can not change history, so acknowledging to then be able to tell the story</p><p>43:25 Vera talks about the fundamental difference between a name on a highway and a monument</p><p>51:07 Vera talks about the importance of memory to action and enabling connectections to be forged</p><p>55:16 Tammy asks the guests who is our neighbor and what it looks like to love your neighbor</p><p>56:09 Georie talks about love meaning not letting someone do something that is harmful to themselves and being willing to confront them because you care</p><p>59:41 Vera talks about deep empathy being essential to bring someone into contact with deep narrative and discomfort that is essential to learning</p><p>1:04:36 Keith closes the conversation and thanks Vera and Georie</p><p>1:07:03 Who Is My Neighbor Episode Ends</p><p>1:07:06 Outro</p><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li><em>Ben Azevedo, owner of </em><a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Bear Cave Audio</em></a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li><em>Chris Pappalardo</em></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">17fc4821-145a-4a66-91f5-269cc7e7b52b</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Capitol Broadcasting Company]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2020 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/d7925321-ea96-4e40-98db-47f12158ca72/just-s2e9-v2.mp3" length="162222068" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:07:36</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><podcast:episode>9</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:author>Capitol Broadcasting Company</itunes:author></item><item><title>Loving Your Neighbor After the 2020 Election</title><itunes:title>Loving Your Neighbor After the 2020 Election</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Jes and Rob take some time to process the 2020 election, how justice intersects with politics, and what gives them hope amongst division.</p><p>Episode Summary:</p><ul><li>0:00 - Intro</li><li>0:48 - Episode start</li><li>1:23 - Rob sets expectations for the listeners</li><li>5:40 - Jes talks about flashbacks to 2016 election</li><li>7:05 - Jes talks about tribalism but living together</li><li>8:07 - Rob is hopeful about shared humanity</li><li>9:50 - Jes talks about more people showing up to vote on both sides</li><li>13:10 - Rob talks about how justice intersects with politics</li><li>14:50 - Jes talks about taking the election personally</li><li>17:00 - Rob emphasizes that we need to reimagine a new story</li><li>20:15 - Jes talks about forming biases</li><li>21:43 - Rob talks about politicians not having an answer to who we are as a country</li><li>24:22 - Interlude</li><li>24:49 - Rob quotes Dave Chappelle</li><li>27:56 - Jes talks about what gave her hope the day after the election</li><li>31:00 - Rob talks about being rooted in values that transcend this season</li><li>33:35 - Jes talks about decentering one’s self to make room for new stories</li><li>35:37 - Rob says this feels familiar, the same conversation we’ve had for a year and a half</li><li>38:10 - Jes thanks the listeners</li><li>39:22 - Rob asks for Jes’s show up moment</li><li>40:05 - Jes talks about being more self-aware, and making space for new information</li><li>41:49 - Rob asks “what shapes my thinking, and what are the sources?”</li><li>44:07 - Rob gives info for ReCity fundraiser event</li><li>45:34 - Sign off</li><li>45:40 - Outro</li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor:</em></p><ul><li>Chris Pappalardo</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jes and Rob take some time to process the 2020 election, how justice intersects with politics, and what gives them hope amongst division.</p><p>Episode Summary:</p><ul><li>0:00 - Intro</li><li>0:48 - Episode start</li><li>1:23 - Rob sets expectations for the listeners</li><li>5:40 - Jes talks about flashbacks to 2016 election</li><li>7:05 - Jes talks about tribalism but living together</li><li>8:07 - Rob is hopeful about shared humanity</li><li>9:50 - Jes talks about more people showing up to vote on both sides</li><li>13:10 - Rob talks about how justice intersects with politics</li><li>14:50 - Jes talks about taking the election personally</li><li>17:00 - Rob emphasizes that we need to reimagine a new story</li><li>20:15 - Jes talks about forming biases</li><li>21:43 - Rob talks about politicians not having an answer to who we are as a country</li><li>24:22 - Interlude</li><li>24:49 - Rob quotes Dave Chappelle</li><li>27:56 - Jes talks about what gave her hope the day after the election</li><li>31:00 - Rob talks about being rooted in values that transcend this season</li><li>33:35 - Jes talks about decentering one’s self to make room for new stories</li><li>35:37 - Rob says this feels familiar, the same conversation we’ve had for a year and a half</li><li>38:10 - Jes thanks the listeners</li><li>39:22 - Rob asks for Jes’s show up moment</li><li>40:05 - Jes talks about being more self-aware, and making space for new information</li><li>41:49 - Rob asks “what shapes my thinking, and what are the sources?”</li><li>44:07 - Rob gives info for ReCity fundraiser event</li><li>45:34 - Sign off</li><li>45:40 - Outro</li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor:</em></p><ul><li>Chris Pappalardo</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">6854c900-b9b4-4c6c-b7ad-639ef4de0c56</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Capitol Broadcasting Company]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2020 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/71dcb2d4-629a-45ed-af35-ea5d74d538a1/just-s2e8-interlude-v2.mp3" length="110558684" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>46:04</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><podcast:episode>8</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:author>Capitol Broadcasting Company</itunes:author></item><item><title>The Controversial Reality of Voter Suppression</title><itunes:title>The Controversial Reality of Voter Suppression</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Voting is a right, not a privilege. There is no more timely a podcast than the one we just dropped today. Good friend Daryl Atkinson of Forward Justice talks about The Controversial Reality of Voter Suppression and the affects it has on our communities.</p><p>0:00 Episode starts&nbsp;</p><p>0:00 Show beings</p><p>0:43 Personal checkins start</p><p>1:34 Jes mentions voting by mail and her son being able to officially vote</p><p>2:46 Rob affirms Jes in the way she is teaching her son to carry the weight of voting</p><p>4:06 Rob talks about caring a new lens into this voting season</p><p>6:10 Rob mentions ReCity gearing up for the end of the season and holding stories which makes it hard to separate personal from everything else</p><p>7:43 Daryl Atkinson joins the conversation</p><p>8:31 Rob reads Daryl’s bio</p><p>9:57 Rob asks Daryl about his story and how he got to be doing this work</p><p>10:27 Daryl mentions being arrested in 1996 and serving 40 months of 10 year sentence</p><p>11:04 Daryl went back to school after getting out of prison to practice law in Minnesota and North Carolina</p><p>11:43 Daryl shares that if he was to return to his birthplace, he would not be able to vote because he still owes money to the state</p><p>11:52 Daryl shares that he is impacted by this problem on a personal level which is why he does and this work and how he got to where he is</p><p>14:00 Jes asks Daryl to unpack voter suppression - what it means, how it shows up, and why it is important</p><p>14:14 Daryl states that voter suppression isn’t new</p><p>15:32 Southern disenfranchisement did not exist in North Carolina State Constitution until 1877, on the heels of radical reconstruction</p><p>17:35 “In 2013, the NC legislature passed HB 589, also known as the “Monster” voter suppression law. HB 589 required voter identification but did not allow the forms of identification most frequently held by people of color… The “Monster” law also shortened the early voting period and eliminated same-day voter registration and youth pre-registration. … Also passed SB 325, a bill that would eliminate the most popular day for early voting: the final Saturday before the election… In 2016, 200,000 people voted on the final Saturday, a day used disproportionately by African-Americans.”</p><p>19:51 Daryl shares about the hypocrisy of our country to make it so hard to vote for people&nbsp;</p><p>20:41 Call 1-866-OURVOTE to report voting problems</p><p>21:26 Rob asks about the story of Forward Justice - how it came to be, the problems they are working to solve, and the name</p><p>21:53 Forward Justice is a law policy and strategy center, operating on three areas of change: social movements create change, some of our most potent social movements are rooted in the South, and these social movements need to be led by people most impacted</p><p>22:41 1/3 of electoral votes are in the South</p><p>25:25 How Forward Justice does their work: change law policy and practice, shift culture, narrative, and values to and how you communicate, and building people up</p><p>27:41 Jes asks Daryl about the biggest obstacle to justice in this issue</p><p>28: Daryl pushes back by stating that there is no one thing we can do to bring our country into equity because we are layered with white supremacy and voter suppression and racism</p><p>28:58 Voting is a right, not a privilege</p><p>30:40 Rob brings up the 400-year-old tree and the problem that comes with uprooting</p><p>31:55 Rob asks Daryl about his fuel and his why</p><p>32:05 Daryl talks about his faith, that he was prepared for such a time as this&nbsp; to fight to get into the room</p><p>32:55 Daryl admits being built in a way that he wakes up, ready for a fight</p><p>33:32 Daryl shares about unnecessary incarceration happened to him so that is why he goes hard, mentioning that the importance of having affected people at the center&nbsp;</p><p>34:09 Jes asks Daryl what and how listeners can engage</p><p>34:23 Daryl...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Voting is a right, not a privilege. There is no more timely a podcast than the one we just dropped today. Good friend Daryl Atkinson of Forward Justice talks about The Controversial Reality of Voter Suppression and the affects it has on our communities.</p><p>0:00 Episode starts&nbsp;</p><p>0:00 Show beings</p><p>0:43 Personal checkins start</p><p>1:34 Jes mentions voting by mail and her son being able to officially vote</p><p>2:46 Rob affirms Jes in the way she is teaching her son to carry the weight of voting</p><p>4:06 Rob talks about caring a new lens into this voting season</p><p>6:10 Rob mentions ReCity gearing up for the end of the season and holding stories which makes it hard to separate personal from everything else</p><p>7:43 Daryl Atkinson joins the conversation</p><p>8:31 Rob reads Daryl’s bio</p><p>9:57 Rob asks Daryl about his story and how he got to be doing this work</p><p>10:27 Daryl mentions being arrested in 1996 and serving 40 months of 10 year sentence</p><p>11:04 Daryl went back to school after getting out of prison to practice law in Minnesota and North Carolina</p><p>11:43 Daryl shares that if he was to return to his birthplace, he would not be able to vote because he still owes money to the state</p><p>11:52 Daryl shares that he is impacted by this problem on a personal level which is why he does and this work and how he got to where he is</p><p>14:00 Jes asks Daryl to unpack voter suppression - what it means, how it shows up, and why it is important</p><p>14:14 Daryl states that voter suppression isn’t new</p><p>15:32 Southern disenfranchisement did not exist in North Carolina State Constitution until 1877, on the heels of radical reconstruction</p><p>17:35 “In 2013, the NC legislature passed HB 589, also known as the “Monster” voter suppression law. HB 589 required voter identification but did not allow the forms of identification most frequently held by people of color… The “Monster” law also shortened the early voting period and eliminated same-day voter registration and youth pre-registration. … Also passed SB 325, a bill that would eliminate the most popular day for early voting: the final Saturday before the election… In 2016, 200,000 people voted on the final Saturday, a day used disproportionately by African-Americans.”</p><p>19:51 Daryl shares about the hypocrisy of our country to make it so hard to vote for people&nbsp;</p><p>20:41 Call 1-866-OURVOTE to report voting problems</p><p>21:26 Rob asks about the story of Forward Justice - how it came to be, the problems they are working to solve, and the name</p><p>21:53 Forward Justice is a law policy and strategy center, operating on three areas of change: social movements create change, some of our most potent social movements are rooted in the South, and these social movements need to be led by people most impacted</p><p>22:41 1/3 of electoral votes are in the South</p><p>25:25 How Forward Justice does their work: change law policy and practice, shift culture, narrative, and values to and how you communicate, and building people up</p><p>27:41 Jes asks Daryl about the biggest obstacle to justice in this issue</p><p>28: Daryl pushes back by stating that there is no one thing we can do to bring our country into equity because we are layered with white supremacy and voter suppression and racism</p><p>28:58 Voting is a right, not a privilege</p><p>30:40 Rob brings up the 400-year-old tree and the problem that comes with uprooting</p><p>31:55 Rob asks Daryl about his fuel and his why</p><p>32:05 Daryl talks about his faith, that he was prepared for such a time as this&nbsp; to fight to get into the room</p><p>32:55 Daryl admits being built in a way that he wakes up, ready for a fight</p><p>33:32 Daryl shares about unnecessary incarceration happened to him so that is why he goes hard, mentioning that the importance of having affected people at the center&nbsp;</p><p>34:09 Jes asks Daryl what and how listeners can engage</p><p>34:23 Daryl shares about volunteer opportunities through Forward Justice, staying educated, and giving money to organizations doing the work</p><p>35:14<a href="http://www.forwardjustice.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> www.forwardjustice.org</a> for volunteer opportunities and their newsletter</p><p>35:27<a href="http://northcarolinasecondchance.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> northcarolinasecondchance.org</a> to be involved with these issues in the Triangle</p><p>37:47 Daryl signs off</p><p>38:38 Rob shares his takeaways that until we admit that things are broken, we can’f fix them and that movements create change</p><p>39:53 “[The right to vote for someone who has been previously incarcerated] means everything: that I’m a citizen, that I am a part of the fabric of this country, and it means I get to participate.”</p><p>41:19 Jes shares her anger around the power of the South and the importance of talking about this issue, as opposed to passivity that is really easy to take</p><p>43:11 Jes’ show-up moment is hope that listeners will be angry that something isn’t right, but is encouraged by Daryl’s certainty</p><p>44:16 If you aren’t angry that something is so wrong, you need to channel it productively for change</p><p>46:39 What drives the you vote?</p><p>47:48 Although the roots run deep, there is also low-hanging fruit</p><p>49:23 Sign-off</p><p>50:00 Outro</p><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li><em>Ben Azevedo, owner of </em><a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Bear Cave Audio</em></a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li><em>Chris Pappalardo</em></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">c73ec7ab-21c2-4c64-847e-f63d459a7230</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Capitol Broadcasting Company]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2020 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/43e33c22-be54-45fc-92f5-73225852c042/just-s2e7.mp3" length="120166616" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>50:04</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><podcast:episode>7</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:author>Capitol Broadcasting Company</itunes:author></item><item><title>ReImagining Our Criminal Justice System</title><itunes:title>ReImagining Our Criminal Justice System</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>The country spends over 80 billion dollars a year on incarceration, so we need transformation, not reformation. On today's podcast we are ReImagining Our Criminal Justice System with special guest Brittany K Barnett!</p><p>0:00 Episode starts&nbsp;</p><p>0:44 Personal check-ins start</p><p>1:16 Rob talks about time with family and being outside more</p><p>2:13 Rob mentions the relevance of <a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81254224" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Social Dilemma</a> and the case for tribalism</p><p>5:01 Jes talks about fall and life and cooler weather</p><p>8:31 Brittany K Barnett signs onto the conversation</p><p>10:20 Jes introduces Brittany and the importance of her focus being reframing how we look at justice</p><p>11:43 Brittany takes some time for a personal check in</p><p>12:44 Jes asks Brittany to tell her story and how she got involved in the work she’s doing&nbsp;</p><p>12:48 Brittany tells about growing up in a small town</p><p>13:12 Brittany brings up her mom’s drug addiction and it eventually leading to prison</p><p>13:48 Brittany mentions from very early on learning about the brokenness of the system, recognizing that her mom needed treatment, not prison</p><p>16:05 Brittany shares that she always wanted to be a lawyer, but as she grew older, it felt more out of her reach</p><p>17:04 Brittany started school for accounting</p><p>17:46 Brittany mentions a critical race theory course that changed her life</p><p>19:48 Rob asks Brittany about Sharonda Jones’ case, how it impacted her, and the importance of getting proximate</p><p>20:15 In 1986, the US Congress passed the Anti-Drug Abuse Act with a 100-to-1 weight ratio with cocaine</p><p>24:30 Brittany wrote to Sharonda about taking her case and how quickly they became like family</p><p>26:27 Brittany shares how Sharonda was released from prison by President Barack Obama after 16 years and 9 months</p><p>28:31 Jes asks Brittany what she could fix with a magic wand to be able to change</p><p>28:52 Brittany answers that she would change the retro-activity in the laws that are changing</p><p>29:40 Do we want a justice system? Do we want to pay to incarcerate people, like Sharonda Jones, for lifelong sentences?</p><p>29:52 The country spends over 80 billion dollars a year on incarceration, so we need transformation, not reformation</p><p>31:01 Rob asks Brittany about what gives her hope for what fuels her</p><p>31:16 Brittany gets hope from her clients and the <a href="https://www.buriedaliveproject.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Buried Alive Project</a></p><p>32:47 Brittany shares the importance of humanizing the data and how important it is for her work</p><p>33:44 <a href="https://www.brittanykbarnett.com/the-book" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Knock at Midnight</a> brings the story of incarceration and Sharonda Jones to light</p><p>34:54 Jes asks Brittany about how listeners can show up</p><p>35:09 Brittany encourages people to educate themselves about the issue and to reach out to local organizations doing the work and exercising the right to vote</p><p>37:49 Brittany shares more about how to get the book, available at <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Knock-Midnight-Story-Justice-Freedom/dp/198482578X/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1535DMGFLYRVR&amp;dchild=1&amp;keywords=a+knock+at+midnight&amp;qid=1602779737&amp;sprefix=a+knock+%2Caps%2C-1&amp;sr=8-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-knock-at-midnight-brittany-k-barnett/1133745149;jsessionid=8CB2CC22BADBCBC76A6AD4FC6AD66DF1.prodny_store02-atgap11?ean=9781984825780" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes and Noble</a>, and audio book</p><p>39:03 Brittany signs off conversation</p><p>39:40 We have to look past the numbers to the heartbeat</p><p>40:01 Rob shares that his takeaway is the importance of the humanity aspect</p><p>41:17 Jes shares that her takeaway was thinking about Brittany’s]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The country spends over 80 billion dollars a year on incarceration, so we need transformation, not reformation. On today's podcast we are ReImagining Our Criminal Justice System with special guest Brittany K Barnett!</p><p>0:00 Episode starts&nbsp;</p><p>0:44 Personal check-ins start</p><p>1:16 Rob talks about time with family and being outside more</p><p>2:13 Rob mentions the relevance of <a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81254224" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Social Dilemma</a> and the case for tribalism</p><p>5:01 Jes talks about fall and life and cooler weather</p><p>8:31 Brittany K Barnett signs onto the conversation</p><p>10:20 Jes introduces Brittany and the importance of her focus being reframing how we look at justice</p><p>11:43 Brittany takes some time for a personal check in</p><p>12:44 Jes asks Brittany to tell her story and how she got involved in the work she’s doing&nbsp;</p><p>12:48 Brittany tells about growing up in a small town</p><p>13:12 Brittany brings up her mom’s drug addiction and it eventually leading to prison</p><p>13:48 Brittany mentions from very early on learning about the brokenness of the system, recognizing that her mom needed treatment, not prison</p><p>16:05 Brittany shares that she always wanted to be a lawyer, but as she grew older, it felt more out of her reach</p><p>17:04 Brittany started school for accounting</p><p>17:46 Brittany mentions a critical race theory course that changed her life</p><p>19:48 Rob asks Brittany about Sharonda Jones’ case, how it impacted her, and the importance of getting proximate</p><p>20:15 In 1986, the US Congress passed the Anti-Drug Abuse Act with a 100-to-1 weight ratio with cocaine</p><p>24:30 Brittany wrote to Sharonda about taking her case and how quickly they became like family</p><p>26:27 Brittany shares how Sharonda was released from prison by President Barack Obama after 16 years and 9 months</p><p>28:31 Jes asks Brittany what she could fix with a magic wand to be able to change</p><p>28:52 Brittany answers that she would change the retro-activity in the laws that are changing</p><p>29:40 Do we want a justice system? Do we want to pay to incarcerate people, like Sharonda Jones, for lifelong sentences?</p><p>29:52 The country spends over 80 billion dollars a year on incarceration, so we need transformation, not reformation</p><p>31:01 Rob asks Brittany about what gives her hope for what fuels her</p><p>31:16 Brittany gets hope from her clients and the <a href="https://www.buriedaliveproject.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Buried Alive Project</a></p><p>32:47 Brittany shares the importance of humanizing the data and how important it is for her work</p><p>33:44 <a href="https://www.brittanykbarnett.com/the-book" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Knock at Midnight</a> brings the story of incarceration and Sharonda Jones to light</p><p>34:54 Jes asks Brittany about how listeners can show up</p><p>35:09 Brittany encourages people to educate themselves about the issue and to reach out to local organizations doing the work and exercising the right to vote</p><p>37:49 Brittany shares more about how to get the book, available at <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Knock-Midnight-Story-Justice-Freedom/dp/198482578X/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1535DMGFLYRVR&amp;dchild=1&amp;keywords=a+knock+at+midnight&amp;qid=1602779737&amp;sprefix=a+knock+%2Caps%2C-1&amp;sr=8-1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-knock-at-midnight-brittany-k-barnett/1133745149;jsessionid=8CB2CC22BADBCBC76A6AD4FC6AD66DF1.prodny_store02-atgap11?ean=9781984825780" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Barnes and Noble</a>, and audio book</p><p>39:03 Brittany signs off conversation</p><p>39:40 We have to look past the numbers to the heartbeat</p><p>40:01 Rob shares that his takeaway is the importance of the humanity aspect</p><p>41:17 Jes shares that her takeaway was thinking about Brittany’s comment of how much genius gets locked up beyond bars because of one mistake</p><p>41:49 Rob admits that the language we use to define someone behind bars does not give credit to genius</p><p>43:51 Sign-off</p><p>43:59 Outro</p><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li><em>Ben Azevedo, owner of </em><a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Bear Cave Audio</em></a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Editor</em></p><ul><li><em>Chris Pappalardo</em></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">e1ae0f33-a322-4746-83f3-8d39aa0a5af0</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Capitol Broadcasting Company]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2020 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/9fc5f7e4-a8d0-451f-9284-5544848737cb/just-s2e6-v2.mp3" length="107114528" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>44:38</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><podcast:episode>6</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:author>Capitol Broadcasting Company</itunes:author></item><item><title>Stop Expelling Our Preschoolers</title><itunes:title>Stop Expelling Our Preschoolers</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Did you know that 50,000 children in the United States are expelled from preschool a year, and those are only for places that have to report (those dependent on government money). You won't believe the conversation we had with Kezia "Kate" Goodwin, Founder &amp; Owner of Kate’s Korner in Durham, NC.</p><p>0:00 Episode starts&nbsp;</p><p>0:44 Personal check-in</p><p>1:00 Jes talks about the seasons changing and her son and his friend moving in with her</p><p>2:59 Rob talks about his family loving the weather and being outside helping mental health</p><p>4:33 Jes introduces Kezie “Kate” Goodwin, Owner and Founder of <a href="https://www.kateskornerdurham.com/our-team" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kate’s Korner</a></p><p>6:20 Jes asks Kate about her story and how she got to the point of prioritizing education and equity</p><p>7:03 Kate says that her love of children started as the youngest of nine</p><p>8:43 Kate mentions the importance of seeing children as their individual selves, and giving them space to love and learn… authentic place for children to land</p><p>9:20 Kate tells a story about her own son Andrew’s need for movement being misidentified as attention issues</p><p>12:29 Rob asks about Kate’s Korner - how it came to be, what they do, and the problem they are working to solve</p><p>13:25 “Kate’s Korner is a manifestation of doing what now I know has to be done in order for me to impact early childhood education”</p><p>14:09 Kate mentions utilizing as a platform to give educators the space to self-evaluate their own implicit bias, they would come to the table and serve any child</p><p>15:10 Kate explains how Kate’s Korner is drop-in and pay as you go and the need for that service</p><p>15:24 Kate explains how Kate’s Korner gives essential workers a place to bring their kids and teaching happens through project-based learning</p><p>17:02 Jes asks Kate about the one thing she wishes people would understand her work and the problem she is working to address</p><p>17:17 Kate shares a statistic that 50,000 children in the United States are expelled from preschool a year, and those are only for places that have to report (those dependent on government money)</p><p>18:20 Kate states the problem with expulsions existing because of implicit bias</p><p>21:09 Kate introduces explicit bias manifesting in chastising students and how that shapes during their early childhood experiences</p><p>23:29 Rob encourages white listeners to try to imagine stepping into a space where their child is being misinterpreted, but ratcheted up by a thousand</p><p>24:24 Jes asks Kate if she had a magic wand where childcare and education are exactly the way she wants, what it looks like and what is holding us back from being there</p><p>25:03 Kate dreams of a center with a community garden and kitchen</p><p>26:20 Kate dreams of a kindergarten-based curriculum with cultural competence of recognizing and celebrating difference</p><p>26:49 Kate dreams of seeing more black males in a space to be able to address that deficit&nbsp;</p><p>27:44 Kate mentions that the biggest barrier is choice</p><p>29:44 Rob asks Kate about her why and what gives her hope</p><p>29:52 Kate answers simply that what gives her hope is children and the need they have</p><p>31:02 Kate answers that the second thing that gives her hope is the parents and being able to speak into them&nbsp;</p><p>32:54 Kate talks about the last thing that gives her hope is the unequal opportunity for those who were not exposed to early education</p><p>34:27 Jes asks Kate for a takeaway for listeners</p><p>34:50 Kate answers by saying that the biggest help is to call and offer help</p><p>35:51 Kate talks about the importance of serving the whole child - providing physical space for learning and technology for remote learning, but also loving them where they are at</p><p>36:37 Kate encourages long term for people to get involved&nbsp;</p><p>37:46 Email Kate at to get...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you know that 50,000 children in the United States are expelled from preschool a year, and those are only for places that have to report (those dependent on government money). You won't believe the conversation we had with Kezia "Kate" Goodwin, Founder &amp; Owner of Kate’s Korner in Durham, NC.</p><p>0:00 Episode starts&nbsp;</p><p>0:44 Personal check-in</p><p>1:00 Jes talks about the seasons changing and her son and his friend moving in with her</p><p>2:59 Rob talks about his family loving the weather and being outside helping mental health</p><p>4:33 Jes introduces Kezie “Kate” Goodwin, Owner and Founder of <a href="https://www.kateskornerdurham.com/our-team" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kate’s Korner</a></p><p>6:20 Jes asks Kate about her story and how she got to the point of prioritizing education and equity</p><p>7:03 Kate says that her love of children started as the youngest of nine</p><p>8:43 Kate mentions the importance of seeing children as their individual selves, and giving them space to love and learn… authentic place for children to land</p><p>9:20 Kate tells a story about her own son Andrew’s need for movement being misidentified as attention issues</p><p>12:29 Rob asks about Kate’s Korner - how it came to be, what they do, and the problem they are working to solve</p><p>13:25 “Kate’s Korner is a manifestation of doing what now I know has to be done in order for me to impact early childhood education”</p><p>14:09 Kate mentions utilizing as a platform to give educators the space to self-evaluate their own implicit bias, they would come to the table and serve any child</p><p>15:10 Kate explains how Kate’s Korner is drop-in and pay as you go and the need for that service</p><p>15:24 Kate explains how Kate’s Korner gives essential workers a place to bring their kids and teaching happens through project-based learning</p><p>17:02 Jes asks Kate about the one thing she wishes people would understand her work and the problem she is working to address</p><p>17:17 Kate shares a statistic that 50,000 children in the United States are expelled from preschool a year, and those are only for places that have to report (those dependent on government money)</p><p>18:20 Kate states the problem with expulsions existing because of implicit bias</p><p>21:09 Kate introduces explicit bias manifesting in chastising students and how that shapes during their early childhood experiences</p><p>23:29 Rob encourages white listeners to try to imagine stepping into a space where their child is being misinterpreted, but ratcheted up by a thousand</p><p>24:24 Jes asks Kate if she had a magic wand where childcare and education are exactly the way she wants, what it looks like and what is holding us back from being there</p><p>25:03 Kate dreams of a center with a community garden and kitchen</p><p>26:20 Kate dreams of a kindergarten-based curriculum with cultural competence of recognizing and celebrating difference</p><p>26:49 Kate dreams of seeing more black males in a space to be able to address that deficit&nbsp;</p><p>27:44 Kate mentions that the biggest barrier is choice</p><p>29:44 Rob asks Kate about her why and what gives her hope</p><p>29:52 Kate answers simply that what gives her hope is children and the need they have</p><p>31:02 Kate answers that the second thing that gives her hope is the parents and being able to speak into them&nbsp;</p><p>32:54 Kate talks about the last thing that gives her hope is the unequal opportunity for those who were not exposed to early education</p><p>34:27 Jes asks Kate for a takeaway for listeners</p><p>34:50 Kate answers by saying that the biggest help is to call and offer help</p><p>35:51 Kate talks about the importance of serving the whole child - providing physical space for learning and technology for remote learning, but also loving them where they are at</p><p>36:37 Kate encourages long term for people to get involved&nbsp;</p><p>37:46 Email Kate at to get involved</p><p>38:42 Kate signs off conversation</p><p>39:01 Rob asks Jes for her takeaway</p><p>39:10 Jes talks about being proud because of Kate’s consistency over three decades to understand individual journeys of kids</p><p>42:46&nbsp; Rob talks about his takeaway being the power of her telling her own story of her son and how he was able enter in because she talks with truth and grace</p><p>45:30 Sign-off</p><p>45:32 Outro</p><p>45:53 Preview of next show</p><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><p><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></p><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></p><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><p><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></p><p><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></p><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><p>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></p><p>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></p><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><p>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">f3e1e59e-fab9-46f8-9dab-09954dbcd4bf</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Capitol Broadcasting Company]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2020 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/f0cd9dc3-0322-46a9-845a-518095af3e05/just-s2e5-v3.mp3" length="44237156" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>46:05</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><podcast:episode>5</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:author>Capitol Broadcasting Company</itunes:author></item><item><title>Race and the Nonprofit Leadership Gap</title><itunes:title>Race and the Nonprofit Leadership Gap</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We are talking about Race &amp; the Nonprofit Leadership Gap with our very special guest and ReCity partner, Harvey Hinton of CAARE - The Healing Center in Durham. </p><p>0:00 Episode starts&nbsp;</p><p>0:44 Personal check-in</p><p>1:18 Jes talks about seasons changing and something new</p><p>2:59 Rob talks about change being the most productive right now</p><p>3:38 Rob addresses how important it is to acknowledge how we can only take on the weight of so many people’s stories</p><p>5:02 Introduces the topic of discussion, race and the leadership gap</p><p>5:50 Rob introduces Dr. Harvey Hinton III of <a href="https://www.caare-inc.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CAARE</a></p><p>6:34 Rob introduces Dr. Hinton’s bio for background</p><p>7:38 Rob asks about Harvey’s story and what led him to serve in his current role at CAARE</p><p>7:58 Harvey talks about growing up in Durham and being taught by people from NCCU</p><p>8:11 Harvey brings up the theme of community being foundational</p><p>8:41 CAARE started by women who had hearts that wanted to make sure black people had access to healthcare</p><p>9:51 Harvey credits CAARE’s success in using its location in Downtown Durham strategically as a sunshine ray of hope</p><p>11:01 CAARE showed people how to maneuver in the nonprofit space to find opportunities to support yourself</p><p>12:12 Racism is a public health issue</p><p>12:31 CAARE stands for community action, advocacy, restoration, and empowerment</p><p>12:54 The goal was not to discuss racism, the goal was being there as a black person to figure out how to make improvements</p><p>13:27 Jes mentions the Doc Rivers quote about desiring to just be a basketball coach</p><p>14:39 Jes brings up the article <a href="https://nonprofitquarterly.org/how-white-people-conquered-the-nonprofit-industry/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">How White People Conquered the Nonprofit Industry</a></p><p>16:38 Jes asks Harvey about this white-dominated nonprofit industry and how he has encountered it</p><p>17:18 It’s not based on meritocracy</p><p>18:12 If a white person would take true action, it would take career suicide</p><p>19:58 Rob brings up the importance of digging up the root causes</p><p>20:50 Are we going to prioritize true impact or are we going to prioritize self-preservation? What do we do when those two things do not go hand in hand?</p><p>22:04 In the context of philanthropy, we need to stop trusting white people to solve black people’s problems</p><p>25:11 What does it mean historically for white men to want to preserve their own places</p><p>25:21 Have we learned to love our spaces in our boxes so much that we aren’t willing to live uncomfortably?</p><p>26:01 America is denying its own reality of racism</p><p>27:41 Jes asks about what advice would you give somebody to someone who wants to get involved in the white-dominated nonprofit sector?</p><p>29:06 Link up with already existing organizations, don’t try to start from scratch</p><p>30:07 We have to understand if we have a mission we believe in, we have to figure out how to capitalize on that</p><p>30:49 Rob asks Harvey about where is hope come froms</p><p>31:28 Harvey says that his hope comes from his two daughters and the idea that right now they don’t have opportunities</p><p>34:17 Harvey recognizes that he isn’t someone who is able to sit on the sideline because he wants to be fighting</p><p>35:43 What is the point of all of the effort</p><p>36:39 Jes asks about what listeners can take away and what they can do as a next step</p><p>46:51 Harvey encourages people to work where they are, starting with deep reflecting</p><p>37:07 “I can’t wait to see white people work in white spaces”</p><p>39:05 Harvey signs off conversation</p><p>39:11 Jes shares her takeaways</p><p>40:30 Rob shares his takeaways</p><p>42:01 “A good white leader is a good white follower”</p><p>42:25 What does it look like to step down and step back to allow a leader of color to...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are talking about Race &amp; the Nonprofit Leadership Gap with our very special guest and ReCity partner, Harvey Hinton of CAARE - The Healing Center in Durham. </p><p>0:00 Episode starts&nbsp;</p><p>0:44 Personal check-in</p><p>1:18 Jes talks about seasons changing and something new</p><p>2:59 Rob talks about change being the most productive right now</p><p>3:38 Rob addresses how important it is to acknowledge how we can only take on the weight of so many people’s stories</p><p>5:02 Introduces the topic of discussion, race and the leadership gap</p><p>5:50 Rob introduces Dr. Harvey Hinton III of <a href="https://www.caare-inc.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CAARE</a></p><p>6:34 Rob introduces Dr. Hinton’s bio for background</p><p>7:38 Rob asks about Harvey’s story and what led him to serve in his current role at CAARE</p><p>7:58 Harvey talks about growing up in Durham and being taught by people from NCCU</p><p>8:11 Harvey brings up the theme of community being foundational</p><p>8:41 CAARE started by women who had hearts that wanted to make sure black people had access to healthcare</p><p>9:51 Harvey credits CAARE’s success in using its location in Downtown Durham strategically as a sunshine ray of hope</p><p>11:01 CAARE showed people how to maneuver in the nonprofit space to find opportunities to support yourself</p><p>12:12 Racism is a public health issue</p><p>12:31 CAARE stands for community action, advocacy, restoration, and empowerment</p><p>12:54 The goal was not to discuss racism, the goal was being there as a black person to figure out how to make improvements</p><p>13:27 Jes mentions the Doc Rivers quote about desiring to just be a basketball coach</p><p>14:39 Jes brings up the article <a href="https://nonprofitquarterly.org/how-white-people-conquered-the-nonprofit-industry/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">How White People Conquered the Nonprofit Industry</a></p><p>16:38 Jes asks Harvey about this white-dominated nonprofit industry and how he has encountered it</p><p>17:18 It’s not based on meritocracy</p><p>18:12 If a white person would take true action, it would take career suicide</p><p>19:58 Rob brings up the importance of digging up the root causes</p><p>20:50 Are we going to prioritize true impact or are we going to prioritize self-preservation? What do we do when those two things do not go hand in hand?</p><p>22:04 In the context of philanthropy, we need to stop trusting white people to solve black people’s problems</p><p>25:11 What does it mean historically for white men to want to preserve their own places</p><p>25:21 Have we learned to love our spaces in our boxes so much that we aren’t willing to live uncomfortably?</p><p>26:01 America is denying its own reality of racism</p><p>27:41 Jes asks about what advice would you give somebody to someone who wants to get involved in the white-dominated nonprofit sector?</p><p>29:06 Link up with already existing organizations, don’t try to start from scratch</p><p>30:07 We have to understand if we have a mission we believe in, we have to figure out how to capitalize on that</p><p>30:49 Rob asks Harvey about where is hope come froms</p><p>31:28 Harvey says that his hope comes from his two daughters and the idea that right now they don’t have opportunities</p><p>34:17 Harvey recognizes that he isn’t someone who is able to sit on the sideline because he wants to be fighting</p><p>35:43 What is the point of all of the effort</p><p>36:39 Jes asks about what listeners can take away and what they can do as a next step</p><p>46:51 Harvey encourages people to work where they are, starting with deep reflecting</p><p>37:07 “I can’t wait to see white people work in white spaces”</p><p>39:05 Harvey signs off conversation</p><p>39:11 Jes shares her takeaways</p><p>40:30 Rob shares his takeaways</p><p>42:01 “A good white leader is a good white follower”</p><p>42:25 What does it look like to step down and step back to allow a leader of color to step in?</p><p>43:47 Sign-off</p><p>53:54 Outro</p><p>44:12 Preview of next show</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">556e9f71-8a5e-4574-8b70-d619d41429b8</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Capitol Broadcasting Company]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2020 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/67c3c5b9-cab5-4534-b52f-e5a497502b35/just-s2e4-v4.mp3" length="42639212" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>44:25</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><podcast:episode>4</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:author>Capitol Broadcasting Company</itunes:author></item><item><title>Who Is My Neighbor?</title><itunes:title>Who Is My Neighbor?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We have not one, not two, but THREE incredible guests on today's brand new episode: Reynolds Chapman, Tammy Rodman, and Keith Daniel of DurhamCares. Tune in as we try to answer the questions "Who are my neighbors? And how do I love them?" </p><p>0:00 Episode Starts&nbsp;</p><p>0:44 Personal check-in</p><p>1:19 Rob talks about excitement of fall and change</p><p>3:28 Jes talks about doing 75Hard</p><p>5:53 Rob introduces the concept of neighbor and the questions “Who ismy neighbor? How do I love my neighbor?”</p><p>7: Rob welcomes <a href="https://durhamcares.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">DurhamCares</a> employees Reynolds Chapman, Tammy Rodman, and Keith Daniels, co-hosts of the<a href="https://linktr.ee/WhoismyneighborPodcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Who Is My Neighbor? Podcast</a></p><p>8:14 Why this podcast and why now?</p><p>9:23 People are looking for ways to navigate &amp; to elevate people’s stories</p><p>10:00 Jes asks about a specific standout story</p><p>10:21 Tammy mentions <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/42TNsUg6APtwDFXuirBQJ2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">conversation</a> with Ivan Almonte and Miriam Valle about COVID and the Latina community</p><p>11:20 Tammy mentions <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/0JDwlCZHN2osTXW0vsz4ng" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">conversation</a> with Jovonia Lewis and the issues in Durham’s public schools that have been revealed</p><p>13:45 Keith tells about 15-year-old family member who was shot in Durham</p><p>14:25 Theological ethical theory about walking alongside people even when you don’t have the answers</p><p>14:58 Our neighbors are closer than we think</p><p>17:10 What is the answer to the question, “Who is my neighbor?”</p><p>17:22 Reynolds talks about the Good Samaritan</p><p>18:13 So many people who can teach us what it looks like to be a neighbor</p><p>18:57 Hearing stories helps you see into people’s humanity</p><p>20:29 What is your hope for your podcast for your listeners?</p><p>20:37 Gaining hope and desire to get past biases</p><p>21:44 It doesn’t matter that no one knows your story, it matters that someone wants to</p><p>23:52 Hearing someone’s story requires you to get proximate</p><p>25:15 Proximity breeds empathy that turns into action</p><p>28:00 At the heart of what we want to do is compassion</p><p>28:13 Cross the street</p><p>29:33 Reynolds shares that other “samaritans” give him hope</p><p>30:24 Learning is growing</p><p>30:44 Subscribe to Who is My Neighbor podcast and listen to the stories</p><p>32:27 Tammy shares that all that she can offer is prayer</p><p>35:55 Words are what we have right now, so let’s speak life</p><p>38:05 Rob mentions Pilgrimage of Pain and Hope</p><p>39:26 Video curriculum being created to take them through the city</p><p>40:25 Learn more about Pilgrimage of Pain and Hope <a href="https://durhamcares.org/pilgrimage/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here</a></p><p>41:51 Guests sign off conversation</p><p>42:05 Jes points that what stands out was that you can’t isolate your own experience when engaging with other people in any way</p><p>44:14 Rob shares that he loves story-driven work DurhamCares do makes it very relational</p><p>45:37 Whoever you consider to be the last person to be your neighbor, has something to teach you</p><p>48:14 Sign off</p><p>48:16 Outro</p><p>48:39 Preview of next episode with Harvey Hinton</p><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have not one, not two, but THREE incredible guests on today's brand new episode: Reynolds Chapman, Tammy Rodman, and Keith Daniel of DurhamCares. Tune in as we try to answer the questions "Who are my neighbors? And how do I love them?" </p><p>0:00 Episode Starts&nbsp;</p><p>0:44 Personal check-in</p><p>1:19 Rob talks about excitement of fall and change</p><p>3:28 Jes talks about doing 75Hard</p><p>5:53 Rob introduces the concept of neighbor and the questions “Who ismy neighbor? How do I love my neighbor?”</p><p>7: Rob welcomes <a href="https://durhamcares.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">DurhamCares</a> employees Reynolds Chapman, Tammy Rodman, and Keith Daniels, co-hosts of the<a href="https://linktr.ee/WhoismyneighborPodcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Who Is My Neighbor? Podcast</a></p><p>8:14 Why this podcast and why now?</p><p>9:23 People are looking for ways to navigate &amp; to elevate people’s stories</p><p>10:00 Jes asks about a specific standout story</p><p>10:21 Tammy mentions <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/42TNsUg6APtwDFXuirBQJ2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">conversation</a> with Ivan Almonte and Miriam Valle about COVID and the Latina community</p><p>11:20 Tammy mentions <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/0JDwlCZHN2osTXW0vsz4ng" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">conversation</a> with Jovonia Lewis and the issues in Durham’s public schools that have been revealed</p><p>13:45 Keith tells about 15-year-old family member who was shot in Durham</p><p>14:25 Theological ethical theory about walking alongside people even when you don’t have the answers</p><p>14:58 Our neighbors are closer than we think</p><p>17:10 What is the answer to the question, “Who is my neighbor?”</p><p>17:22 Reynolds talks about the Good Samaritan</p><p>18:13 So many people who can teach us what it looks like to be a neighbor</p><p>18:57 Hearing stories helps you see into people’s humanity</p><p>20:29 What is your hope for your podcast for your listeners?</p><p>20:37 Gaining hope and desire to get past biases</p><p>21:44 It doesn’t matter that no one knows your story, it matters that someone wants to</p><p>23:52 Hearing someone’s story requires you to get proximate</p><p>25:15 Proximity breeds empathy that turns into action</p><p>28:00 At the heart of what we want to do is compassion</p><p>28:13 Cross the street</p><p>29:33 Reynolds shares that other “samaritans” give him hope</p><p>30:24 Learning is growing</p><p>30:44 Subscribe to Who is My Neighbor podcast and listen to the stories</p><p>32:27 Tammy shares that all that she can offer is prayer</p><p>35:55 Words are what we have right now, so let’s speak life</p><p>38:05 Rob mentions Pilgrimage of Pain and Hope</p><p>39:26 Video curriculum being created to take them through the city</p><p>40:25 Learn more about Pilgrimage of Pain and Hope <a href="https://durhamcares.org/pilgrimage/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here</a></p><p>41:51 Guests sign off conversation</p><p>42:05 Jes points that what stands out was that you can’t isolate your own experience when engaging with other people in any way</p><p>44:14 Rob shares that he loves story-driven work DurhamCares do makes it very relational</p><p>45:37 Whoever you consider to be the last person to be your neighbor, has something to teach you</p><p>48:14 Sign off</p><p>48:16 Outro</p><p>48:39 Preview of next episode with Harvey Hinton</p><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><p>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">fa72fe9c-8c40-43c6-9e8f-097b4437076b</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Capitol Broadcasting Company]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2020 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/74625aae-44dd-4b40-9764-3d9f78c7b1b1/just-s2e3.mp3" length="46905122" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>48:52</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><podcast:episode>3</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:author>Capitol Broadcasting Company</itunes:author></item><item><title>How to Be a Just Leader</title><itunes:title>How to Be a Just Leader</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>David Spickard shares how being a just leader means creating an environment for people to thrive.</p><ul><li>0:00 Episode starts</li><li>0:44 Personal check-in</li><li>1:26 Jes talks about feeling suffocated recently</li><li>2:37 Jes out of her funk by watching ultra marathoners</li><li>2:54 Rob starts personal check-in</li><li>3:30 Rob talks about intermittent fasting as a way of self-care</li><li>4:13 Discipline in fasting leading to healthy discipline in other ares</li><li>5:01 Establish theme of shaking up the routine</li><li>6:38 Introduce guest David Spickard</li><li>7:20 Introduce Just Leadership Project</li><li>8:09 Personal check-in with David</li><li>8:29 David learning about being healthy and finding pace and resting</li><li>9:32 Youngest daughter having college at home</li><li>10:23 David’s kids having to learn resilience and patience</li><li>11:17 Jes introduces the concepts of gaps in leadership</li><li>11:35 What are the gaps you are identifying today in leadership? How did you come to those conclusions?</li><li>11:50 David talks about his role and Jobs for Life</li><li>12:54 Seeing how significant people are engaged in work affecting leadership</li><li>13:04 87% of employees are disengaged with work</li><li>13:42 70% of people who leave their jobs are because of their bosses</li><li>14:08 A lot of leaders are good at building business, but not their people</li><li>14:47<strong> </strong>Being a just leader means creating an environment for people to thrive</li><li>16:13 How are you going about day-to-day practically building just leaders?</li><li>16:26 Coach CEOs and leadership teams how to build company culture and thinking about impact through the platforms in place</li><li>16:40 First way he coaches is through self-created Thrive Assessment</li><li>17:04 T - Trust - How much trust do you have in your people? How much trust do they have in you?</li><li>17:10 H - Health - Are you physically and emotionally healthy? Are your people physically and emotionally healthy?</li><li>17:16 R - Relationships - How well do you all relate to one another? How deeply do you feel connected to one another?</li><li>17:26 I - Impact - How much do you feel your work has a greater impact in the world?</li><li>17:31 V - Value - Do you feel valued? Do your people feel valued?</li><li>17:24 E - Engagement - How much do your people feel like they are using their gifts, talents, and abilities? Do they feel like they have an opportunity to grow and build a career at your place of business?</li><li>18:02 Assessment uncovers the unspoken culture in every place of business</li><li>18:39 Second way David coaches is through small group of CEOs and business leaders who meet in a cohort around just leadership</li><li>20:17 Encourages people like himself to get into justice and experience fullness</li><li>21:13 Acknowledges that people with power, wealth, and influence often aren’t at the grassroots tables</li><li>23:04 If you were to archetype a world class leader, what are those qualities?</li><li>23:32 Ongoing process that is endless to become more just</li><li>24:02 David breaks down Proverbs about when the righteous, the city rejoices</li><li>25:52 Qualities of the righteous: they see the whole playing field in themselves, in others, and in their whole communities; they build cultural competency; they give power away; they take bold and corougeous action</li><li>27:55 We can talk about justice all we want, but if doesn’t lead us to action that creates to change</li><li>29:06 Jes brings up charity versus justice</li><li>30:21 Sadaki? stewarding everything for peace and justice</li><li>30:57 Those who are in leadership and in power stewarding everything they have and the outcome is others being able to rejoice</li><li>31:26 David introduces the concept of “empty power”</li><li>32:40 Transformative relinquishing of power</li><li>33:30 Being a just leader should impact every area of life</li><li>34:54 The idea of being just may be in...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Spickard shares how being a just leader means creating an environment for people to thrive.</p><ul><li>0:00 Episode starts</li><li>0:44 Personal check-in</li><li>1:26 Jes talks about feeling suffocated recently</li><li>2:37 Jes out of her funk by watching ultra marathoners</li><li>2:54 Rob starts personal check-in</li><li>3:30 Rob talks about intermittent fasting as a way of self-care</li><li>4:13 Discipline in fasting leading to healthy discipline in other ares</li><li>5:01 Establish theme of shaking up the routine</li><li>6:38 Introduce guest David Spickard</li><li>7:20 Introduce Just Leadership Project</li><li>8:09 Personal check-in with David</li><li>8:29 David learning about being healthy and finding pace and resting</li><li>9:32 Youngest daughter having college at home</li><li>10:23 David’s kids having to learn resilience and patience</li><li>11:17 Jes introduces the concepts of gaps in leadership</li><li>11:35 What are the gaps you are identifying today in leadership? How did you come to those conclusions?</li><li>11:50 David talks about his role and Jobs for Life</li><li>12:54 Seeing how significant people are engaged in work affecting leadership</li><li>13:04 87% of employees are disengaged with work</li><li>13:42 70% of people who leave their jobs are because of their bosses</li><li>14:08 A lot of leaders are good at building business, but not their people</li><li>14:47<strong> </strong>Being a just leader means creating an environment for people to thrive</li><li>16:13 How are you going about day-to-day practically building just leaders?</li><li>16:26 Coach CEOs and leadership teams how to build company culture and thinking about impact through the platforms in place</li><li>16:40 First way he coaches is through self-created Thrive Assessment</li><li>17:04 T - Trust - How much trust do you have in your people? How much trust do they have in you?</li><li>17:10 H - Health - Are you physically and emotionally healthy? Are your people physically and emotionally healthy?</li><li>17:16 R - Relationships - How well do you all relate to one another? How deeply do you feel connected to one another?</li><li>17:26 I - Impact - How much do you feel your work has a greater impact in the world?</li><li>17:31 V - Value - Do you feel valued? Do your people feel valued?</li><li>17:24 E - Engagement - How much do your people feel like they are using their gifts, talents, and abilities? Do they feel like they have an opportunity to grow and build a career at your place of business?</li><li>18:02 Assessment uncovers the unspoken culture in every place of business</li><li>18:39 Second way David coaches is through small group of CEOs and business leaders who meet in a cohort around just leadership</li><li>20:17 Encourages people like himself to get into justice and experience fullness</li><li>21:13 Acknowledges that people with power, wealth, and influence often aren’t at the grassroots tables</li><li>23:04 If you were to archetype a world class leader, what are those qualities?</li><li>23:32 Ongoing process that is endless to become more just</li><li>24:02 David breaks down Proverbs about when the righteous, the city rejoices</li><li>25:52 Qualities of the righteous: they see the whole playing field in themselves, in others, and in their whole communities; they build cultural competency; they give power away; they take bold and corougeous action</li><li>27:55 We can talk about justice all we want, but if doesn’t lead us to action that creates to change</li><li>29:06 Jes brings up charity versus justice</li><li>30:21 Sadaki? stewarding everything for peace and justice</li><li>30:57 Those who are in leadership and in power stewarding everything they have and the outcome is others being able to rejoice</li><li>31:26 David introduces the concept of “empty power”</li><li>32:40 Transformative relinquishing of power</li><li>33:30 Being a just leader should impact every area of life</li><li>34:54 The idea of being just may be in direct conflict with being profitable as a company</li><li>35:23 What does it mean to make a just decision?</li><li>37:28 Rob introduces the analogy of the rising tide lifts all boats</li><li>37:54 Rising tide only helpful if you have a boat</li><li>39:21 How do we break the cycle of history before us where people in power are looking out for the needs of their neighbor?</li><li>40:13 Change involves sacrifice, discomfort, emptying ourselves, giving up things we think will give us security, and understanding everything we have is not our own</li><li>42:54 As much about the process as the destination</li><li>44:13 Have to talk about it to reframe your minds and then you have to experience it</li><li>45:43 Details about qualities of a just leader series</li><li>47:07 Register at<a href="http://davidspickard.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> davidspickard.org</a></li><li>47:32 David signs off conversation</li><li>48:53 Jes talks about her take-away</li><li>52:26 Interconnectedness game versus zero sub</li><li>55:10 Sign-off</li><li>55:12 Outro</li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><p>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">572b102f-3b88-46e0-a461-182aa3a16c11</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Capitol Broadcasting Company]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2020 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/bd2a0642-d006-426b-b1b0-2c4681ce1747/just-s2e2-v2-1.mp3" length="53280218" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>55:30</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><podcast:episode>2</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season><itunes:author>Capitol Broadcasting Company</itunes:author></item><item><title>What is Justice, Anyway?</title><itunes:title>What is 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Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob and Jes set the tone for season 2, one of active participation, reimagining the stories of the community, and redefining what justice means to 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rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">f4a189cc-8962-48ea-a49b-059564b93da0</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Capitol Broadcasting Company]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2020 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure 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We spent some time in REAL talk, RAW emotions, and what steps we can take forward towards progress. </p><p>Episode Summary:</p><ul><li>0:00 - Intro</li><li>0:48 - Episode start</li><li>1:38 - Jes frames up the episode</li><li>3:42 - Rob asks why are we here?</li><li>4.26 - Talking honestly, openly, and vulnerably</li><li>7:00 - Rob is struggling but wants to lean in</li><li>8:12 - Jes remembers talking to her son about Trayvon Martin</li><li>10:05 - Mourning vs. shock or anger</li><li>13:11 - Naming the difference between reactions from Black folks and white folks</li><li>13:32 - The one place that white people never go -&nbsp; "that could be me"</li><li>14:11 - Ahmaud Arbery</li><li>14:57 - Jes explains the aspect of trauma</li><li>17:00 - Jes is reassessing her role in the resistance</li><li>17:18 - Rob says everyone should ask “what is my role?”</li><li>17:54 - Jes explains more about her assessment</li><li>19:38 - Jes will build wealth for herself and her community</li><li>20:02 - Wealth is power</li><li>20:21 - When Black communities move towards power, white supremacy brings them down</li><li>21:47 - White folks can't stand the power structures to shift</li><li>22:17 - If Black folks had power, people would think twice about killing them</li><li>23:38 - The system of race was an economic play</li><li>24:27 - Why was race created in the first place?</li><li>25:56 - Rob talks about learning about NC Mutual</li><li>26:51 - You can’t stop at the diagnosis</li><li>28:11 - If Blackness is a social construct, then so is whiteness</li><li>28:59 - When is the white community going to examine their own identity or move beyond it?</li><li>29:44 - Rob admits he would rather examine Blackness than look at his own whiteness</li><li>31:25 - White people need to become students of how whiteness works</li><li>33:22 - Will Rob do the work to study his own legacy and how he got here?</li><li>34:45 - White people don't feel shared responsibility for the harm they cause</li><li>35:16 - White people bring an individual lens - they don't see systemic issues</li><li>36:11 - We're at a different place than when we started this podcast</li><li>37:02 - We have to take a personal and spiritual accounting</li><li>37:37 - Naming white supremacy</li><li>39:20 - Rob describes being blind to the injustices of privilege</li><li>40:07 - Rob commits to learning how his social mobility story interacts with the larger picture</li><li>40:49 - You gotta do the work</li><li>41:03 - There are more resources available now than 3 weeks ago</li><li>41:52 - We’re going to keep this conversation going</li><li>43:00 - Episode end</li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We just couldn't let The Just Podcast end without addressing some of the heavier topics consuming our nation and world right now. We spent some time in REAL talk, RAW emotions, and what steps we can take forward towards progress. </p><p>Episode Summary:</p><ul><li>0:00 - Intro</li><li>0:48 - Episode start</li><li>1:38 - Jes frames up the episode</li><li>3:42 - Rob asks why are we here?</li><li>4.26 - Talking honestly, openly, and vulnerably</li><li>7:00 - Rob is struggling but wants to lean in</li><li>8:12 - Jes remembers talking to her son about Trayvon Martin</li><li>10:05 - Mourning vs. shock or anger</li><li>13:11 - Naming the difference between reactions from Black folks and white folks</li><li>13:32 - The one place that white people never go -&nbsp; "that could be me"</li><li>14:11 - Ahmaud Arbery</li><li>14:57 - Jes explains the aspect of trauma</li><li>17:00 - Jes is reassessing her role in the resistance</li><li>17:18 - Rob says everyone should ask “what is my role?”</li><li>17:54 - Jes explains more about her assessment</li><li>19:38 - Jes will build wealth for herself and her community</li><li>20:02 - Wealth is power</li><li>20:21 - When Black communities move towards power, white supremacy brings them down</li><li>21:47 - White folks can't stand the power structures to shift</li><li>22:17 - If Black folks had power, people would think twice about killing them</li><li>23:38 - The system of race was an economic play</li><li>24:27 - Why was race created in the first place?</li><li>25:56 - Rob talks about learning about NC Mutual</li><li>26:51 - You can’t stop at the diagnosis</li><li>28:11 - If Blackness is a social construct, then so is whiteness</li><li>28:59 - When is the white community going to examine their own identity or move beyond it?</li><li>29:44 - Rob admits he would rather examine Blackness than look at his own whiteness</li><li>31:25 - White people need to become students of how whiteness works</li><li>33:22 - Will Rob do the work to study his own legacy and how he got here?</li><li>34:45 - White people don't feel shared responsibility for the harm they cause</li><li>35:16 - White people bring an individual lens - they don't see systemic issues</li><li>36:11 - We're at a different place than when we started this podcast</li><li>37:02 - We have to take a personal and spiritual accounting</li><li>37:37 - Naming white supremacy</li><li>39:20 - Rob describes being blind to the injustices of privilege</li><li>40:07 - Rob commits to learning how his social mobility story interacts with the larger picture</li><li>40:49 - You gotta do the work</li><li>41:03 - There are more resources available now than 3 weeks ago</li><li>41:52 - We’re going to keep this conversation going</li><li>43:00 - Episode end</li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">00a267af-2583-426a-b0ce-4f72d2674135</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Capitol Broadcasting Company]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2020 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/573e763b-cfe8-4e88-8199-226bb515a3ed/just-ep-15.mp3" length="102765159" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>42:49</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>15</itunes:episode><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><podcast:episode>15</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><itunes:author>Capitol Broadcasting Company</itunes:author></item><item><title>Business &amp; Philanthropy, Partners in Justice - Ep. 14</title><itunes:title>Business &amp; Philanthropy, Partners in Justice - Ep. 14</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Creighton Blackwell of Coastal Credit Union shares how philanthropies can make a difference in a global pandemic and what fuels him to be a part of this work.</p><p>Episode Summary:</p><ul><li>0:00 - Intro</li><li>0:48 - Episode start/Rob checks in with Jes</li><li>2:19 - Jes checks in with Rob</li><li>6:07 - Creighton Blackwell joins the show</li><li>6:34 - Check in with Creighton&nbsp;</li><li>7:53 - Who is Creighton?</li><li>10:47 - What does a day in the life look like?</li><li>12:08 - There’s no lack of need</li><li>14:28 - What are your hopes for philanthropy?&nbsp;</li><li>14:34 - How did you get there?</li><li>17:40 - You can’t be everything to everyone but you can be more to more people</li><li>19:00 - Is your point of view widely shared?</li><li>22:45 - What is your biggest obstacle?</li><li>28:02 - What fuels you?</li><li>29:44 - Work extremely hard, and pay attention to what everyone around you is going through</li><li>30:23 - What’s one tangible thing listeners can do?</li><li>35:19 - Rob debriefs</li><li>36:00 - What was Jes’s biggest takeaway?</li><li>37:46 - The movement is JUST starting</li><li>38:53 - Will we change our ways, despite the cost, for a more just society?</li><li>41:08 - Don’t keep this podcast and these topics at arm’s length</li></ul><br/><p>Guests:</p><ul><li>Creighton Blackwell, <a href="https://blog.coastal24.com/articles/view/222" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vice President of Corporate Affairs at Coastal Federal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p>Resources:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/Learn/Resources/Community-Resources" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.coastal24.com/Learn/Resources/Community-Resources</a></li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Creighton Blackwell of Coastal Credit Union shares how philanthropies can make a difference in a global pandemic and what fuels him to be a part of this work.</p><p>Episode Summary:</p><ul><li>0:00 - Intro</li><li>0:48 - Episode start/Rob checks in with Jes</li><li>2:19 - Jes checks in with Rob</li><li>6:07 - Creighton Blackwell joins the show</li><li>6:34 - Check in with Creighton&nbsp;</li><li>7:53 - Who is Creighton?</li><li>10:47 - What does a day in the life look like?</li><li>12:08 - There’s no lack of need</li><li>14:28 - What are your hopes for philanthropy?&nbsp;</li><li>14:34 - How did you get there?</li><li>17:40 - You can’t be everything to everyone but you can be more to more people</li><li>19:00 - Is your point of view widely shared?</li><li>22:45 - What is your biggest obstacle?</li><li>28:02 - What fuels you?</li><li>29:44 - Work extremely hard, and pay attention to what everyone around you is going through</li><li>30:23 - What’s one tangible thing listeners can do?</li><li>35:19 - Rob debriefs</li><li>36:00 - What was Jes’s biggest takeaway?</li><li>37:46 - The movement is JUST starting</li><li>38:53 - Will we change our ways, despite the cost, for a more just society?</li><li>41:08 - Don’t keep this podcast and these topics at arm’s length</li></ul><br/><p>Guests:</p><ul><li>Creighton Blackwell, <a href="https://blog.coastal24.com/articles/view/222" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vice President of Corporate Affairs at Coastal Federal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p>Resources:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/Learn/Resources/Community-Resources" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.coastal24.com/Learn/Resources/Community-Resources</a></li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">42b67253-0a2d-4ace-9a6e-554df220f497</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Capitol Broadcasting Company]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2020 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/08fa4b97-5f30-4c0a-8070-3b48a9b3a72f/just-14-business-philanthropy-partners-in-justice.mp3" length="103204688" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>43:00</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><podcast:episode>14</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><itunes:author>Capitol Broadcasting Company</itunes:author></item><item><title>Philanthropy Exists Because Justice Does Not - Ep. 13</title><itunes:title>Philanthropy Exists Because Justice Does Not - Ep. 13</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In the wake of the last few months and the tragedies we continue to learn about, this week's podcast is more timely than ever. You don't want to miss this convo featuring Dr. Dorian Burton!</p><p>Episode Summary:</p><ul><li>0:00 - Intro</li><li>0:48 - Episode start</li><li>1:28 - Rob’s check in</li><li>3:47 - Jes’s check in</li><li>8:30 - Jes introduces Dorian Burton</li><li>9:07 - Dorian’s check in</li><li>12:53 - How has your work changed during the pandemic?</li><li>15:00 - It forces us to think about things in two ways</li><li>17:34 - Shifting Philanthropy from Charity to Justice</li><li>18:32 - What has changed and what hasn’t since you wrote that article?</li><li>19:58 - I always try to work from that place of hope</li><li>21:45 - When you go into communities you’re never starting from zero</li><li>23:27 - Getting from charity to justice</li><li>27:01 - What is an obstacle that you talk to God about?</li><li>28:00 - The first obstacle is always self</li><li>32:28 - John Rawls quote</li><li>34:00 - We know what to do, do we have the will to do it?</li><li>36:35 - What’s one tangible thing for our listeners to do?</li><li>38:37 - What type of legacy to leave</li><li>42:08 - Jes debriefs</li><li>43:37 - Rob debriefs</li></ul><br/><p>Guests:</p><ul><li>Dorian Burton, Assistant Executive Director of <a href="http://www.kenancharitabletrust.org/index.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The William R. Kenan Jr. Charitable Trust</a></li></ul><br/><p>Resources:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ssir.org/articles/entry/shifting_philanthropy_from_charity_to_justice" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://ssir.org/articles/entry/shifting_philanthropy_from_charity_to_justice</a></li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/><p><br></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the wake of the last few months and the tragedies we continue to learn about, this week's podcast is more timely than ever. You don't want to miss this convo featuring Dr. Dorian Burton!</p><p>Episode Summary:</p><ul><li>0:00 - Intro</li><li>0:48 - Episode start</li><li>1:28 - Rob’s check in</li><li>3:47 - Jes’s check in</li><li>8:30 - Jes introduces Dorian Burton</li><li>9:07 - Dorian’s check in</li><li>12:53 - How has your work changed during the pandemic?</li><li>15:00 - It forces us to think about things in two ways</li><li>17:34 - Shifting Philanthropy from Charity to Justice</li><li>18:32 - What has changed and what hasn’t since you wrote that article?</li><li>19:58 - I always try to work from that place of hope</li><li>21:45 - When you go into communities you’re never starting from zero</li><li>23:27 - Getting from charity to justice</li><li>27:01 - What is an obstacle that you talk to God about?</li><li>28:00 - The first obstacle is always self</li><li>32:28 - John Rawls quote</li><li>34:00 - We know what to do, do we have the will to do it?</li><li>36:35 - What’s one tangible thing for our listeners to do?</li><li>38:37 - What type of legacy to leave</li><li>42:08 - Jes debriefs</li><li>43:37 - Rob debriefs</li></ul><br/><p>Guests:</p><ul><li>Dorian Burton, Assistant Executive Director of <a href="http://www.kenancharitabletrust.org/index.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The William R. Kenan Jr. Charitable Trust</a></li></ul><br/><p>Resources:</p><ul><li><a href="https://ssir.org/articles/entry/shifting_philanthropy_from_charity_to_justice" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://ssir.org/articles/entry/shifting_philanthropy_from_charity_to_justice</a></li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/><p><br></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">8daf099b-425d-4fb2-b4bc-8d153450c976</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Capitol Broadcasting Company]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2020 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/6a614798-1234-45eb-b7d2-73ce51b3ce73/just-ep-12-pt-1.mp3" length="93158722" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>48:31</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><podcast:episode>13</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><itunes:author>Capitol Broadcasting Company</itunes:author></item><item><title>Can a Virus Be Racist? What Disparities COVID is Revealing - Ep. 12</title><itunes:title>Can a Virus Be Racist? What Disparities COVID is Revealing - Ep. 12</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We know people can be racist — and that reality is far too clear after witnessing the news on Ahmaud Arbery's death. But can a virus be racist, too? In the latest episode, Jes &amp; Rob dialogue about the lopsided effects of COVID-19. </p><p>Episode Summary:</p><ul><li>0:00 - Intro</li><li>0:50 - Episode start</li><li>1:50 - Rob checks in with Jes</li><li>4:11 - Jes checks in with Rob</li><li>6:06 - Jes shifts us into the episode topic</li><li>6:43 - Data about Covid disproportionately affected the Black community</li><li>8:55 - Rob brings in two articles</li><li>11:50 - NC is one of four states called out in Brookings&nbsp;</li><li>13:38 - Talk about inequality through three areas: jobs, healthcare, and criminal justice</li><li>13:54 - Inequality in jobs</li><li>14:28 - Jes weighs in on job inequality</li><li>14:45 - Jes tells story about Tyson plant</li><li>16:22 - It <em>is </em>a race issue</li><li>17:30 - Is the virus racist? No. The system is</li><li>18:18 - Jes wraps up the jobs section</li><li>18:45 - Inequality in healthcare</li><li>19:26 - Jes quotes some statistics on healthcare inequality</li><li>20:13 - Jes talks about White House call with community leaders</li><li>22:31 - Jes asks Rob for his thoughts on her call</li><li>22:49 - No one is a blank slate coming to this conversation</li><li>24:35 - Rob asks Jes what she processes hearing these statistics</li><li>28:30 - Jes reads another healthcare statistic&nbsp;</li><li>29:50 - Rob talks about leaning in and getting proximate</li><li>30:22 - Men of color at risk for wearing facemasks to get groceries</li><li>31:41 - You don’t see the same protests in other countries</li><li>33:41 - Bryan Stevenson quote: you have to get proximate to suffering</li><li>35:30 - Jes - there isn’t a “todo” list, we need to be better and keep learning</li><li>36:35 - Would you trade places with a Black essential worker?</li><li>37:20 - Being able to have these conversations is the action item</li><li>42:12 - JUST podcast is on social media now (@thepodcastjust)</li><li>42:44 - Show up for local organizations that are run by people of color and helping people of color</li><li>43:42 - Use this podcast to venture into some deeper waters of conversation</li></ul><br/><p>Resources:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/the-black-plague" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/the-black-plague</a></li><li><a href="https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2020/04/09/why-are-blacks-dying-at-higher-rates-from-covid-19/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2020/04/09/why-are-blacks-dying-at-higher-rates-from-covid-19/</a></li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo,...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We know people can be racist — and that reality is far too clear after witnessing the news on Ahmaud Arbery's death. But can a virus be racist, too? In the latest episode, Jes &amp; Rob dialogue about the lopsided effects of COVID-19. </p><p>Episode Summary:</p><ul><li>0:00 - Intro</li><li>0:50 - Episode start</li><li>1:50 - Rob checks in with Jes</li><li>4:11 - Jes checks in with Rob</li><li>6:06 - Jes shifts us into the episode topic</li><li>6:43 - Data about Covid disproportionately affected the Black community</li><li>8:55 - Rob brings in two articles</li><li>11:50 - NC is one of four states called out in Brookings&nbsp;</li><li>13:38 - Talk about inequality through three areas: jobs, healthcare, and criminal justice</li><li>13:54 - Inequality in jobs</li><li>14:28 - Jes weighs in on job inequality</li><li>14:45 - Jes tells story about Tyson plant</li><li>16:22 - It <em>is </em>a race issue</li><li>17:30 - Is the virus racist? No. The system is</li><li>18:18 - Jes wraps up the jobs section</li><li>18:45 - Inequality in healthcare</li><li>19:26 - Jes quotes some statistics on healthcare inequality</li><li>20:13 - Jes talks about White House call with community leaders</li><li>22:31 - Jes asks Rob for his thoughts on her call</li><li>22:49 - No one is a blank slate coming to this conversation</li><li>24:35 - Rob asks Jes what she processes hearing these statistics</li><li>28:30 - Jes reads another healthcare statistic&nbsp;</li><li>29:50 - Rob talks about leaning in and getting proximate</li><li>30:22 - Men of color at risk for wearing facemasks to get groceries</li><li>31:41 - You don’t see the same protests in other countries</li><li>33:41 - Bryan Stevenson quote: you have to get proximate to suffering</li><li>35:30 - Jes - there isn’t a “todo” list, we need to be better and keep learning</li><li>36:35 - Would you trade places with a Black essential worker?</li><li>37:20 - Being able to have these conversations is the action item</li><li>42:12 - JUST podcast is on social media now (@thepodcastjust)</li><li>42:44 - Show up for local organizations that are run by people of color and helping people of color</li><li>43:42 - Use this podcast to venture into some deeper waters of conversation</li></ul><br/><p>Resources:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/the-black-plague" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/the-black-plague</a></li><li><a href="https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2020/04/09/why-are-blacks-dying-at-higher-rates-from-covid-19/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2020/04/09/why-are-blacks-dying-at-higher-rates-from-covid-19/</a></li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">911bdf39-b739-4a6c-bbbf-0b98511fefa2</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Capitol Broadcasting Company]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2020 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/184c111a-a681-4542-98f2-195d943a4fad/just-11-can-a-virus-be-racist.mp3" length="108774420" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>45:19</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><podcast:episode>12</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><itunes:author>Capitol Broadcasting Company</itunes:author></item><item><title>Common Myths About Homelessness Pt. 2 - Ep. 11</title><itunes:title>Common Myths About Homelessness Pt. 2 - Ep. 11</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Nick Allen of United Way of the Triangle shares about the inequities that coronavirus is revealing and how the Durham community has responded to the crisis.</p><p>Episode Summary:</p><ul><li>:51 - Jes introduces Nick</li><li>2:56 - Jes checks in with Nick</li><li>5:20 - What inequities is the Coronavirus crisis revealing?</li><li>10:52 - How has the community responded to the crisis?</li><li>13:52 - What are some practical ways to help?</li><li>16:33 - Jes and Rob debrief</li><li>17:30 - What’s one thing that stood out to Jes?</li><li>19:18 - What’s one thing that stood out to Rob?</li><li>20:54 - Rob’s “show up” moment</li><li>21:21 - Jes’s “show up” moment</li></ul><br/><p>Guests:</p><ul><li>Nick Allen, Chief Program Officer of <a href="https://www.unitedwaytriangle.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The United Way of the Greater Triangle Area</a></li></ul><br/><p>Resources:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.unitedwaytriangle.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The United Way of the Greater Triangle Area</a></li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our editor:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick Allen of United Way of the Triangle shares about the inequities that coronavirus is revealing and how the Durham community has responded to the crisis.</p><p>Episode Summary:</p><ul><li>:51 - Jes introduces Nick</li><li>2:56 - Jes checks in with Nick</li><li>5:20 - What inequities is the Coronavirus crisis revealing?</li><li>10:52 - How has the community responded to the crisis?</li><li>13:52 - What are some practical ways to help?</li><li>16:33 - Jes and Rob debrief</li><li>17:30 - What’s one thing that stood out to Jes?</li><li>19:18 - What’s one thing that stood out to Rob?</li><li>20:54 - Rob’s “show up” moment</li><li>21:21 - Jes’s “show up” moment</li></ul><br/><p>Guests:</p><ul><li>Nick Allen, Chief Program Officer of <a href="https://www.unitedwaytriangle.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The United Way of the Greater Triangle Area</a></li></ul><br/><p>Resources:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.unitedwaytriangle.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The United Way of the Greater Triangle Area</a></li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our editor:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">d7c54597-e202-4f41-b796-d78817c70579</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Capitol Broadcasting Company]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2020 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/0f65cb43-4a28-4ca4-ae0c-98a1a3500528/just-10-affordable-housing-pt-2.mp3" length="55886448" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>23:17</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><podcast:episode>11</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><itunes:author>Capitol Broadcasting Company</itunes:author></item><item><title>Common Myths About Homelessness Pt. 1 - Ep. 10</title><itunes:title>Common Myths About Homelessness Pt. 1 - Ep. 10</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Russell Pierce of Housing for New Hope talks about the complexities of working to change affordable housing in the midst of a global pandemic.</p><p>Episode Summary:</p><ul><li>0:04 - Intro</li><li>0:40 - Episode begins</li><li>1:07 - Rob checks in with Jes</li><li>&nbsp;2:52 - Jes checks in with Rob</li><li>6:14 - Russ joins the call</li><li>6:51 - Rob frames up the conversation</li><li>9:22 - Jes gives Russ an official introduction</li><li>10:16 - Jes checks in with Russ</li><li>13:03 - What new challenges has Coronavirus brought?</li><li>16:01 - What are some common misconceptions about affordable housing?</li><li>17:18 - How is the complexity of working with affordable housing changing with this global crisis?</li><li>19:26 - What drives you to do this work?</li><li>22:09 - How can listeners support and show up?</li><li>23:51 - Donate at <a href="https://www.housingfornewhope.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">housingfornewhope.org</a></li><li>24:20 - Jes and Rob debrief</li></ul><br/><p>Guests:</p><ul><li>Russel Pierce, Executive Director of <a href="https://www.housingfornewhope.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Housing for New Hope</a></li></ul><br/><p>Resources:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.housingfornewhope.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Housing for New Hope</a></li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our editor:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russell Pierce of Housing for New Hope talks about the complexities of working to change affordable housing in the midst of a global pandemic.</p><p>Episode Summary:</p><ul><li>0:04 - Intro</li><li>0:40 - Episode begins</li><li>1:07 - Rob checks in with Jes</li><li>&nbsp;2:52 - Jes checks in with Rob</li><li>6:14 - Russ joins the call</li><li>6:51 - Rob frames up the conversation</li><li>9:22 - Jes gives Russ an official introduction</li><li>10:16 - Jes checks in with Russ</li><li>13:03 - What new challenges has Coronavirus brought?</li><li>16:01 - What are some common misconceptions about affordable housing?</li><li>17:18 - How is the complexity of working with affordable housing changing with this global crisis?</li><li>19:26 - What drives you to do this work?</li><li>22:09 - How can listeners support and show up?</li><li>23:51 - Donate at <a href="https://www.housingfornewhope.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">housingfornewhope.org</a></li><li>24:20 - Jes and Rob debrief</li></ul><br/><p>Guests:</p><ul><li>Russel Pierce, Executive Director of <a href="https://www.housingfornewhope.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Housing for New Hope</a></li></ul><br/><p>Resources:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.housingfornewhope.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Housing for New Hope</a></li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our editor:</em></p><ul><li>Ben Azevedo, owner of <a href="https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bear Cave Audio</a></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">31c5693d-e012-4864-bba0-ac0684216f9c</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Capitol Broadcasting Company]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2020 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/e93fa6ef-2a26-4104-8ecb-7722021049d3/just-10-affordable-housing-pt-1.mp3" length="62396832" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>26:00</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><podcast:episode>10</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><itunes:author>Capitol Broadcasting Company</itunes:author></item><item><title>When &quot;Stay at Home&quot; Is Unsafe: Domestic Violence During Quarantine - Ep. 9</title><itunes:title>When &quot;Stay at Home&quot; Is Unsafe: Domestic Violence During Quarantine - Ep. 9</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Monica Daye discusses domestic violence and COVID-19, how now more than ever, people can not leave harmful and abusive situations. It's a hard topic to discuss, but one that we as a nation and a world need to be talking about. </p><p>Episode Summary:</p><ul><li>0:00 - Intro</li><li>0:50 - Episode start</li><li>1:55 - Rob checks in with Jes</li><li>3:27 - Jes checks in with Rob</li><li>6:53 - Rob warns that this will be a heavy topic</li><li>8:04 - Monica joins the conversation</li><li>8:17 - Rob frames the conversation</li><li>8:58 - Rob references the CNN article</li><li>10:13 - Rob introduces Monica and gives some background</li><li>12:10 - Jes checks in with Monica</li><li>14:39 - Why is StandUp SpeakOut so important?</li><li>18:51 - Are you seeing more referrals during the pandemic?</li><li>21:19 - Jes talks about codewords for victims to use for help</li><li>21:51 - Will we implement a codeword system in the US?</li><li>24:25 - What fuels you to do this work?</li><li>28:34 - How can we rally around you?</li><li>30:44 - Rob and Jes thank Monica</li><li>31:54 - Monica thanks Rob and Jes</li><li>32:24 - Jes and Rob debrief the conversation</li><li>33:52 - Jes introduces Sharon Hirsch</li><li>34:27 - Sharon joins the conversation</li><li>35:30 - Jes checks in with Sharon</li><li>37:27 - Why is your work so essential in our communities?</li><li>38:00 - The three main ways Sharon’s work prevents abuse</li><li>39:16 - Have you seen the problem worsen during the quarantine?</li><li>42:25 - What fuels you to do this work?</li><li>43:02 - The trifecta of faith, advocacy, and science</li><li>44:42 - How can we rally around you?</li><li>47:08 - Jes thanks Sharon</li><li>48:21 - Jes and Rob debrief the conversation</li></ul><br/><p>Guests:</p><ul><li>Monica Daye, founder of <a href="https://susonc.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">StandUp-SpeakOut NC</a></li><li>Sharon Hirsch, President and CEO of <a href="https://www.preventchildabusenc.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Prevent Child Abuse North Carolina</a></li></ul><br/><p>Resources:</p><ul><li><a href="https://susonc.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://susonc.org/</a></li><li><a href="https://www.preventchildabusenc.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.preventchildabusenc.org/</a></li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li><a href="http://linkedin.com/in/milesspann" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Miles Spann</a></li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monica Daye discusses domestic violence and COVID-19, how now more than ever, people can not leave harmful and abusive situations. It's a hard topic to discuss, but one that we as a nation and a world need to be talking about. </p><p>Episode Summary:</p><ul><li>0:00 - Intro</li><li>0:50 - Episode start</li><li>1:55 - Rob checks in with Jes</li><li>3:27 - Jes checks in with Rob</li><li>6:53 - Rob warns that this will be a heavy topic</li><li>8:04 - Monica joins the conversation</li><li>8:17 - Rob frames the conversation</li><li>8:58 - Rob references the CNN article</li><li>10:13 - Rob introduces Monica and gives some background</li><li>12:10 - Jes checks in with Monica</li><li>14:39 - Why is StandUp SpeakOut so important?</li><li>18:51 - Are you seeing more referrals during the pandemic?</li><li>21:19 - Jes talks about codewords for victims to use for help</li><li>21:51 - Will we implement a codeword system in the US?</li><li>24:25 - What fuels you to do this work?</li><li>28:34 - How can we rally around you?</li><li>30:44 - Rob and Jes thank Monica</li><li>31:54 - Monica thanks Rob and Jes</li><li>32:24 - Jes and Rob debrief the conversation</li><li>33:52 - Jes introduces Sharon Hirsch</li><li>34:27 - Sharon joins the conversation</li><li>35:30 - Jes checks in with Sharon</li><li>37:27 - Why is your work so essential in our communities?</li><li>38:00 - The three main ways Sharon’s work prevents abuse</li><li>39:16 - Have you seen the problem worsen during the quarantine?</li><li>42:25 - What fuels you to do this work?</li><li>43:02 - The trifecta of faith, advocacy, and science</li><li>44:42 - How can we rally around you?</li><li>47:08 - Jes thanks Sharon</li><li>48:21 - Jes and Rob debrief the conversation</li></ul><br/><p>Guests:</p><ul><li>Monica Daye, founder of <a href="https://susonc.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">StandUp-SpeakOut NC</a></li><li>Sharon Hirsch, President and CEO of <a href="https://www.preventchildabusenc.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Prevent Child Abuse North Carolina</a></li></ul><br/><p>Resources:</p><ul><li><a href="https://susonc.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://susonc.org/</a></li><li><a href="https://www.preventchildabusenc.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.preventchildabusenc.org/</a></li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li><a href="http://linkedin.com/in/milesspann" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Miles Spann</a></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">c7ca9df4-8f2c-4cb0-bf22-744596e3edb5</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Capitol Broadcasting Company]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2020 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/59feaa9d-9bb0-45f5-821b-0e69ed437b2e/just-ep-9-when-stay-at-home-is-unsafe-domestic-violence-during-quarantine.mp3" length="52653627" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>54:51</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>9</podcast:episode><itunes:author>Capitol Broadcasting Company</itunes:author></item><item><title>What Social Distancing Reveals About Privilege - Ep. 08</title><itunes:title>What Social Distancing Reveals About Privilege - Ep. 08</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Rob and Jes discuss the disparities of schooling and technology when it comes to the recent stay-at-home order.</p><p>Episode Summary:</p><ul><li>0:00 - Intro</li><li>0:50 - Episode start</li><li>3:30 - Processing change</li><li>4:32 - Check in with Rob</li><li>6:05 - Check in with Jes</li><li>8:40 - Schedule/playbook for quarantine</li><li>9:30 - Zoom calls, access to technology</li><li>11:00 - Differences in ability to access schooling</li><li>12:20 - Impact of disrupted school on younger kids</li><li>13:10 - Privilege of being able to quarantine</li><li>14:20 - NYT article about location data</li><li>17:45 - Negative impact of “If it doesn’t affect me it doesn’t matter” mentality</li><li>18:30 - Leadership not caring about community impact</li><li>19:10 - Importance of proximity and impact of social distancing</li><li>20:00 - Need to be proximate to suffering</li><li>21:10 - Frame up for listeners</li><li>22:00 - Putting future conversations against the backdrop of the pandemic</li><li>23:50 - Jes’s proximity to the virus</li><li>25:00 - Continue to amplify voices on the front lines</li></ul><br/><p>Resources:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/03/us/coronavirus-stay-home-rich-poor.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Location Data Says It All: Staying at Home is a Luxury</a> (New York Times)</li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li><a href="http://linkedin.com/in/milesspann" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Miles Spann</a></li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob and Jes discuss the disparities of schooling and technology when it comes to the recent stay-at-home order.</p><p>Episode Summary:</p><ul><li>0:00 - Intro</li><li>0:50 - Episode start</li><li>3:30 - Processing change</li><li>4:32 - Check in with Rob</li><li>6:05 - Check in with Jes</li><li>8:40 - Schedule/playbook for quarantine</li><li>9:30 - Zoom calls, access to technology</li><li>11:00 - Differences in ability to access schooling</li><li>12:20 - Impact of disrupted school on younger kids</li><li>13:10 - Privilege of being able to quarantine</li><li>14:20 - NYT article about location data</li><li>17:45 - Negative impact of “If it doesn’t affect me it doesn’t matter” mentality</li><li>18:30 - Leadership not caring about community impact</li><li>19:10 - Importance of proximity and impact of social distancing</li><li>20:00 - Need to be proximate to suffering</li><li>21:10 - Frame up for listeners</li><li>22:00 - Putting future conversations against the backdrop of the pandemic</li><li>23:50 - Jes’s proximity to the virus</li><li>25:00 - Continue to amplify voices on the front lines</li></ul><br/><p>Resources:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/03/us/coronavirus-stay-home-rich-poor.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Location Data Says It All: Staying at Home is a Luxury</a> (New York Times)</li></ul><br/><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.djpdogg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.djpdogg.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><br/><p><em>Our sponsors:</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ReCity Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.coastal24.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coastal Credit Union</a></li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p><em>Our hosts:</em></p><ul><li>Jes Averhart, cofounder of <a href="https://bwshomecoming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Black Wallstreet Homecoming</a></li><li>Rob Shields, executive director of the <a href="https://www.recitynetwork.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Recity Network.</a></li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p><em>Our Producer:</em></p><ul><li><a href="http://linkedin.com/in/milesspann" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Miles Spann</a></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">98aeae49-af97-4192-bcf6-feb0511d862e</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/157f5647-54ad-495c-aad3-ef7fa42d0c24/wVXaCqQxChy4eeqzM6r-m9Dq.jpeg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Capitol Broadcasting Company]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2020 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/fd14a0df-0a63-4cb0-8937-641100da0fae/just-ep-8-what-social-distancing-reveals-about-privilege.mp3" length="50341562" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>26:13</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>8</podcast:episode><itunes:author>Capitol Broadcasting Company</itunes:author></item><item><title>Justice in the Time of Coronavirus Pt.2 - Ep. 7</title><itunes:title>Justice in the Time of Coronavirus - Pt.2</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Reynolds Chapman of DurhamCares shares how his faith shapes the way he approaches the evolving situation surrounding coronavirus. Hear the full story of how DurhamCares is responding to COVID-19.</p><p>Pt. 2 Episode Summary:</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>0:04 - Intro</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>0:55 - Introduction of Reynolds Chapman (ED of Durham Cares) on Phone</p><p><br></p><p>Safe Social Distancing</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>2:09 - Reflection on Pt.1 and Community Leaders</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>3:30 - Jes reflects on practical steps</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>4:24 - How Reynolds is doing in this chaotic time.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>5:48 - How Durham Cares is adapting.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>6:50 - What does Durham Cares do and what they have been doing to help?</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>7:15 - Church Mobilization Network</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>7:30 - Durham Pilgrimage&nbsp;of Pain and Hope</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>8:18 - How faith communities are helping now?</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>10:30 - Not Pressing Pause on Proximity on Needs of Our Neighbor</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>12:04 - How to care for the Most Vulnerable</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>14:24 - Reflection on the Pressure on Families</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>17:02 - Balancing Hope and Support from Faith-Based Community</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>19:02 - Resources to Relieve Pressure</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>21:43 - Rob's Final Thought (The Great Help Analogy)</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>24:04 - Call to Action</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>25:40 - Outro</p><p><br></p><p>Guests:</p><p>Leonardo Williams - Owner of Zweli's Restaurant</p><p>Syretta Hill -Executive Director of Step Up Durham</p><p>Reynolds Chapman - Executive Director of Durham Cares</p><p><br></p><p>Resources:</p><p>https://www.durhamcares.org/</p><p>Durham Cares: COVID-19 Guide</p><p>https://www.stepupdurham.org/</p><p>Step Up Durham: Impact 2020 Campaign</p><p>https://www.zwelis.com/</p><p>https://www.recitynetwork.org/</p><p>ReCity Blog: Stronger Together - How to Help in the Face of COVID 19</p><p><br></p><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>·&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><p>·&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;www.djpdogg.com</p><p>·&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Twitter</p><p>·&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Instagram</p><p>·&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Follow Producer Lo Key</p><p>·&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Instagram</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Our sponsors:</p><p>·&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;ReCity Network</p><p>·&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Coastal Credit Union</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Our hosts:</p><p>Jes Averhart, cofounder of&nbsp;Black Wallstreet Homecoming</p><p>Rob Shields, executive director of the&nbsp;Recity Network.</p><p>Our Producer:</p><p>Miles Spann</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reynolds Chapman of DurhamCares shares how his faith shapes the way he approaches the evolving situation surrounding coronavirus. Hear the full story of how DurhamCares is responding to COVID-19.</p><p>Pt. 2 Episode Summary:</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>0:04 - Intro</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>0:55 - Introduction of Reynolds Chapman (ED of Durham Cares) on Phone</p><p><br></p><p>Safe Social Distancing</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>2:09 - Reflection on Pt.1 and Community Leaders</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>3:30 - Jes reflects on practical steps</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>4:24 - How Reynolds is doing in this chaotic time.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>5:48 - How Durham Cares is adapting.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>6:50 - What does Durham Cares do and what they have been doing to help?</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>7:15 - Church Mobilization Network</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>7:30 - Durham Pilgrimage&nbsp;of Pain and Hope</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>8:18 - How faith communities are helping now?</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>10:30 - Not Pressing Pause on Proximity on Needs of Our Neighbor</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>12:04 - How to care for the Most Vulnerable</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>14:24 - Reflection on the Pressure on Families</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>17:02 - Balancing Hope and Support from Faith-Based Community</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>19:02 - Resources to Relieve Pressure</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>21:43 - Rob's Final Thought (The Great Help Analogy)</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>24:04 - Call to Action</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>25:40 - Outro</p><p><br></p><p>Guests:</p><p>Leonardo Williams - Owner of Zweli's Restaurant</p><p>Syretta Hill -Executive Director of Step Up Durham</p><p>Reynolds Chapman - Executive Director of Durham Cares</p><p><br></p><p>Resources:</p><p>https://www.durhamcares.org/</p><p>Durham Cares: COVID-19 Guide</p><p>https://www.stepupdurham.org/</p><p>Step Up Durham: Impact 2020 Campaign</p><p>https://www.zwelis.com/</p><p>https://www.recitynetwork.org/</p><p>ReCity Blog: Stronger Together - How to Help in the Face of COVID 19</p><p><br></p><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>·&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><p>·&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;www.djpdogg.com</p><p>·&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Twitter</p><p>·&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Instagram</p><p>·&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Follow Producer Lo Key</p><p>·&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Instagram</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Our sponsors:</p><p>·&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;ReCity Network</p><p>·&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Coastal Credit Union</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Our hosts:</p><p>Jes Averhart, cofounder of&nbsp;Black Wallstreet Homecoming</p><p>Rob Shields, executive director of the&nbsp;Recity Network.</p><p>Our Producer:</p><p>Miles Spann</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">52538e1c-706c-11ea-81bc-c7e405eafd87</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/8e4f5b58-1ba9-407b-a8ff-e2ca7df6f5e9/uploads_2f1579211784644-j5le3o8sam-958eebfa0c6df8b4bc6c88a9ac466484_2f200108justidentity-2a.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Capitol Broadcasting Company]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2020 11:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/b273cdfc-a345-4a05-b0f8-2e131618b645/capitol8472877104.mp3" length="38317652" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>26:34</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>7</podcast:episode><itunes:summary>Pt. 2 Episode Summary:


0:04 - Intro


0:55 - Introduction of Reynolds Chapman (ED of Durham Cares) on Phone

Safe Social Distancing


2:09 - Reflection on Pt.1 and Community Leaders


3:30 - Jes reflects on practical steps


4:24 - How Reynolds is doing in this chaotic time.


5:48 - How Durham Cares is adapting.


6:50 - What does Durham Cares do and what they have been doing to help?


7:15 - Church Mobilization Network


7:30 - Durham Pilgrimage of Pain and Hope


8:18 - How faith communities are helping now?


10:30 - Not Pressing Pause on Proximity on Needs of Our Neighbor


12:04 - How to care for the Most Vulnerable


14:24 - Reflection on the Pressure on Families


17:02 - Balancing Hope and Support from Faith-Based Community


19:02 - Resources to Relieve Pressure


21:43 - Rob&apos;s Final Thought (The Great Help Analogy)


24:04 - Call to Action


25:40 - Outro

Guests:
Leonardo Williams - Owner of Zweli&apos;s Restaurant
Syretta Hill -Executive Director of Step Up Durham
Reynolds Chapman - Executive Director of Durham Cares

Resources:
https://www.durhamcares.org/
Durham Cares: COVID-19 Guide
https://www.stepupdurham.org/
Step Up Durham: Impact 2020 Campaign
https://www.zwelis.com/
https://www.recitynetwork.org/
ReCity Blog: Stronger Together - How to Help in the Face of COVID 19

Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!
·          Follow DJ Pdogg online:
·         www.djpdogg.com
·         Twitter
·         Instagram
·         Follow Producer Lo Key
·         Instagram
 
Our sponsors:
·         ReCity Network
·         Coastal Credit Union
 
Our hosts:
Jes Averhart, cofounder of Black Wallstreet Homecoming
Rob Shields, executive director of the Recity Network.
Our Producer:
Miles Spann</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Capitol Broadcasting Company</itunes:author></item><item><title>Justice in the Time of Coronavirus Pt.1 - Ep. 6</title><itunes:title>Justice in the Time of Coronavirus - Pt.1</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Your hosts Rob + Jes interview leaders from the nonprofit, small business, &amp; faith sectors to really dig into the ways that Coronavirus impacts the marginalized and the vulnerable. Syretta Hill of StepUp Durham and Leo Williams of Zweli’s Kitchen speak about what keeps them going even when the stay-at-home order is affecting work and business.</p><p>Pt. 1 Episode Summary:</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>0:04 - Intro</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>0:50 - Personal Check-Ins</p><p><br></p><p>Jes' Son's Promposal</p><p><br></p><p>Rob's Adjustment without a Plan and&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>3:40 - ReCity being Proximate in Social Distancing Time</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>5:24 - Trey's Awakening to new Vulnerabilities</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>6:30 - Introduction of Guests - Syretta Hill (ED of Step Up Durham) and&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>7:06 - Introduction of Leonardo Williams (Owner of Zweli's Restaurant)</p><p><br></p><p>Ninja Turtles and Sweet Potato Samosas</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>8:17 - Syretta Hill Check- In</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>10:00 - Leo Williams Check-In</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>12:00 - Sudden Small Business Problems</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>15:01 - COVID response from Non-Profit Perspective</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>17:33 - Small Business Pressure and Response</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>20:26 - Not Giving Up</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>21:05 - What Fuels You? (Leo)</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>22:32 - What Fuels You? (Syretta)</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>23:24 - What are some Practical Ways to Help? (Syretta)</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>25:13 - How can we Help Zweli's? (Leo)</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>26:33 - Importance of Stepping Up Call to Action</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>28:13 - Outro</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Guests:</p><p>Leonardo Williams - Owner of Zweli's Restaurant</p><p>Syretta Hill -Executive Director of Step Up Durham</p><p>Reynolds Chapman - Executive Director of Durham Cares</p><p><br></p><p>Resources:</p><p>https://www.durhamcares.org/</p><p>Durham Cares: COVID-19 Guide</p><p>https://www.stepupdurham.org/</p><p>Step Up Durham: Impact 2020 Campaign</p><p>https://www.zwelis.com/</p><p>https://www.recitynetwork.org/</p><p>ReCity Blog: Stronger Together - How to Help in the Face of COVID 19</p><p><br></p><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>·&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><p>·&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;www.djpdogg.com</p><p>·&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Twitter</p><p>·&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Instagram</p><p>·&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Follow Producer Lo Key</p><p>·&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Instagram</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Our sponsors:</p><p>·&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;ReCity Network</p><p>·&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Coastal Credit Union</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Our hosts:</p><p>Jes Averhart, cofounder of&nbsp;Black Wallstreet Homecoming</p><p>Rob Shields, executive director of the&nbsp;Recity Network.</p><p>Our Producer:</p><p>Miles Spann</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your hosts Rob + Jes interview leaders from the nonprofit, small business, &amp; faith sectors to really dig into the ways that Coronavirus impacts the marginalized and the vulnerable. Syretta Hill of StepUp Durham and Leo Williams of Zweli’s Kitchen speak about what keeps them going even when the stay-at-home order is affecting work and business.</p><p>Pt. 1 Episode Summary:</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>0:04 - Intro</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>0:50 - Personal Check-Ins</p><p><br></p><p>Jes' Son's Promposal</p><p><br></p><p>Rob's Adjustment without a Plan and&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>3:40 - ReCity being Proximate in Social Distancing Time</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>5:24 - Trey's Awakening to new Vulnerabilities</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>6:30 - Introduction of Guests - Syretta Hill (ED of Step Up Durham) and&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>7:06 - Introduction of Leonardo Williams (Owner of Zweli's Restaurant)</p><p><br></p><p>Ninja Turtles and Sweet Potato Samosas</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>8:17 - Syretta Hill Check- In</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>10:00 - Leo Williams Check-In</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>12:00 - Sudden Small Business Problems</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>15:01 - COVID response from Non-Profit Perspective</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>17:33 - Small Business Pressure and Response</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>20:26 - Not Giving Up</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>21:05 - What Fuels You? (Leo)</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>22:32 - What Fuels You? (Syretta)</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>23:24 - What are some Practical Ways to Help? (Syretta)</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>25:13 - How can we Help Zweli's? (Leo)</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>26:33 - Importance of Stepping Up Call to Action</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>28:13 - Outro</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Guests:</p><p>Leonardo Williams - Owner of Zweli's Restaurant</p><p>Syretta Hill -Executive Director of Step Up Durham</p><p>Reynolds Chapman - Executive Director of Durham Cares</p><p><br></p><p>Resources:</p><p>https://www.durhamcares.org/</p><p>Durham Cares: COVID-19 Guide</p><p>https://www.stepupdurham.org/</p><p>Step Up Durham: Impact 2020 Campaign</p><p>https://www.zwelis.com/</p><p>https://www.recitynetwork.org/</p><p>ReCity Blog: Stronger Together - How to Help in the Face of COVID 19</p><p><br></p><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p>·&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><p>·&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;www.djpdogg.com</p><p>·&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Twitter</p><p>·&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Instagram</p><p>·&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Follow Producer Lo Key</p><p>·&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Instagram</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Our sponsors:</p><p>·&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;ReCity Network</p><p>·&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Coastal Credit Union</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Our hosts:</p><p>Jes Averhart, cofounder of&nbsp;Black Wallstreet Homecoming</p><p>Rob Shields, executive director of the&nbsp;Recity Network.</p><p>Our Producer:</p><p>Miles Spann</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">204eef20-706b-11ea-97bd-47e7a1985591</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/8e4f5b58-1ba9-407b-a8ff-e2ca7df6f5e9/uploads_2f1579211784644-j5le3o8sam-958eebfa0c6df8b4bc6c88a9ac466484_2f200108justidentity-2a.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Capitol Broadcasting Company]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2020 10:30:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/da92b380-775f-4302-9dbf-0da10757e92a/capitol6530382696.mp3" length="41938303" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>29:05</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>6</podcast:episode><itunes:summary>Pt. 1 Episode Summary:


0:04 - Intro


0:50 - Personal Check-Ins

Jes&apos; Son&apos;s Promposal

Rob&apos;s Adjustment without a Plan and 


3:40 - ReCity being Proximate in Social Distancing Time


5:24 - Trey&apos;s Awakening to new Vulnerabilities


6:30 - Introduction of Guests - Syretta Hill (ED of Step Up Durham) and 


7:06 - Introduction of Leonardo Williams (Owner of Zweli&apos;s Restaurant)

Ninja Turtles and Sweet Potato Samosas


8:17 - Syretta Hill Check- In


10:00 - Leo Williams Check-In


12:00 - Sudden Small Business Problems


15:01 - COVID response from Non-Profit Perspective


17:33 - Small Business Pressure and Response


20:26 - Not Giving Up


21:05 - What Fuels You? (Leo)


22:32 - What Fuels You? (Syretta)


23:24 - What are some Practical Ways to Help? (Syretta)


25:13 - How can we Help Zweli&apos;s? (Leo)


26:33 - Importance of Stepping Up Call to Action


28:13 - Outro



Guests:
Leonardo Williams - Owner of Zweli&apos;s Restaurant
Syretta Hill -Executive Director of Step Up Durham
Reynolds Chapman - Executive Director of Durham Cares

Resources:
https://www.durhamcares.org/
Durham Cares: COVID-19 Guide
https://www.stepupdurham.org/
Step Up Durham: Impact 2020 Campaign
https://www.zwelis.com/
https://www.recitynetwork.org/
ReCity Blog: Stronger Together - How to Help in the Face of COVID 19

Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!
·          Follow DJ Pdogg online:
·         www.djpdogg.com
·         Twitter
·         Instagram
·         Follow Producer Lo Key
·         Instagram
 
Our sponsors:
·         ReCity Network
·         Coastal Credit Union
 
Our hosts:
Jes Averhart, cofounder of Black Wallstreet Homecoming
Rob Shields, executive director of the Recity Network.
Our Producer:
Miles Spann</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Capitol Broadcasting Company</itunes:author></item><item><title>Just Mercy Pt.2 - Ep. 5</title><itunes:title>Just Mercy pt. 2</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Rob and Jes bring in the Durham County District Attorney to discuss the movie Just Mercy and the criminal justice system. Satana Deberry, District Attorney of Durham County, shares her journey in the justice system and things she’s learned along the way.</p><p>Quick Episode Summary</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>:19&nbsp;Intro!</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>1:05&nbsp;Personal Checkin</p><p><br></p><p>Jes celebrates another year around the sun with friends and perspective.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>Rob's 2-year-old son just got out of a cast from a broken leg and has not slowed down.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>3:33&nbsp;Introduction of Satana Deberry (Durham Co. District Attorney)</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>4:45&nbsp;Satana Deberry's background and her "why."</p><p><br></p><p>Locally born and raised&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>Educated at Duke</p><p><br></p><p>Practiced law in her home town and discovered her "why."</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>8:43&nbsp;Satana's thoughts on Just Mercy and the timing of the film's release.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>11:03&nbsp;Who is the client of the District Attorney's office?</p><p><br></p><p>Working for the citizens of Durham county.</p><p><br></p><p>Getting to the most just outcome.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>12:55&nbsp;Sponsor Break</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>13:15&nbsp;What are you losing sleep over as the District Attorney?</p><p><br></p><p>Being under the microscope as a public figure.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>The dirty little secret of the criminal justice system.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>16:20&nbsp;Waving the magic wand and the one big fix to overhaul the criminal justice system.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>19:42&nbsp;The Show Up Moment:&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>Don't be afraid to learn.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>Don't be afraid to have tough conversations with your circle.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>22:55&nbsp;Episode Debrief and first reactions.</p><p><br></p><p>The power of proximity&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>The limitations of doing the work as it currently is asked of us.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>27:48&nbsp;Outro</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p><br></p><p>&nbsp;Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><p><br></p><p>www.djpdogg.com</p><p><br></p><p>Twitter</p><p><br></p><p>Instagram</p><p><br></p><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><p><br></p><p>Instagram</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Our Guest</p><p>Satana Deberry</p><p>Durham County District Attorney's Office.</p><p><br></p><p>Articles and Links mentioned by Rob and Jes</p><p><br></p><p>Capitol Broadcasting Podcast Network</p><p><br></p><p>Just Mercy - Movie</p><p><br></p><p>Just Mercy - Book</p><p><br></p><p>Equal Justice Initiative</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Dominique Gilliard - Rethinking Incarceration&nbsp;(Book)</p><p><br></p><p>Just Mercy discussion guide</p><p><br></p><p>The Legacy Museum: From Enslavement to Mass Incarceration.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>The National Memorial for Peace and Justice</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Our sponsors:</p><p><br></p><p>ReCity Network</p><p><br></p><p>Coastal Credit Union</p><p><br></p><p>Our hosts:</p><p>Jes Averhart, cofounder of&nbsp;Black Wallstreet Homecoming</p><p>Rob Shields, executive director of the&nbsp;Recity Network.</p><p>Our Producer:</p><p>Michael Baylor</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob and Jes bring in the Durham County District Attorney to discuss the movie Just Mercy and the criminal justice system. Satana Deberry, District Attorney of Durham County, shares her journey in the justice system and things she’s learned along the way.</p><p>Quick Episode Summary</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>:19&nbsp;Intro!</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>1:05&nbsp;Personal Checkin</p><p><br></p><p>Jes celebrates another year around the sun with friends and perspective.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>Rob's 2-year-old son just got out of a cast from a broken leg and has not slowed down.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>3:33&nbsp;Introduction of Satana Deberry (Durham Co. District Attorney)</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>4:45&nbsp;Satana Deberry's background and her "why."</p><p><br></p><p>Locally born and raised&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>Educated at Duke</p><p><br></p><p>Practiced law in her home town and discovered her "why."</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>8:43&nbsp;Satana's thoughts on Just Mercy and the timing of the film's release.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>11:03&nbsp;Who is the client of the District Attorney's office?</p><p><br></p><p>Working for the citizens of Durham county.</p><p><br></p><p>Getting to the most just outcome.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>12:55&nbsp;Sponsor Break</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>13:15&nbsp;What are you losing sleep over as the District Attorney?</p><p><br></p><p>Being under the microscope as a public figure.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>The dirty little secret of the criminal justice system.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>16:20&nbsp;Waving the magic wand and the one big fix to overhaul the criminal justice system.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>19:42&nbsp;The Show Up Moment:&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>Don't be afraid to learn.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>Don't be afraid to have tough conversations with your circle.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>22:55&nbsp;Episode Debrief and first reactions.</p><p><br></p><p>The power of proximity&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>The limitations of doing the work as it currently is asked of us.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>27:48&nbsp;Outro</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p><br></p><p>&nbsp;Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><p><br></p><p>www.djpdogg.com</p><p><br></p><p>Twitter</p><p><br></p><p>Instagram</p><p><br></p><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><p><br></p><p>Instagram</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Our Guest</p><p>Satana Deberry</p><p>Durham County District Attorney's Office.</p><p><br></p><p>Articles and Links mentioned by Rob and Jes</p><p><br></p><p>Capitol Broadcasting Podcast Network</p><p><br></p><p>Just Mercy - Movie</p><p><br></p><p>Just Mercy - Book</p><p><br></p><p>Equal Justice Initiative</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Dominique Gilliard - Rethinking Incarceration&nbsp;(Book)</p><p><br></p><p>Just Mercy discussion guide</p><p><br></p><p>The Legacy Museum: From Enslavement to Mass Incarceration.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>The National Memorial for Peace and Justice</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Our sponsors:</p><p><br></p><p>ReCity Network</p><p><br></p><p>Coastal Credit Union</p><p><br></p><p>Our hosts:</p><p>Jes Averhart, cofounder of&nbsp;Black Wallstreet Homecoming</p><p>Rob Shields, executive director of the&nbsp;Recity Network.</p><p>Our Producer:</p><p>Michael Baylor</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://cms.megaphone.fm/channel/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">b0be0bd2-6737-11ea-b6fd-6346e6023cb4</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/8e4f5b58-1ba9-407b-a8ff-e2ca7df6f5e9/uploads_2f1579211784644-j5le3o8sam-958eebfa0c6df8b4bc6c88a9ac466484_2f200108justidentity-2a.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Capitol Broadcasting Company]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2020 11:30:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/1cbd321f-cf25-4a77-bec2-8c0e240752e9/capitol2765886882.mp3" length="41206817" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>28:34</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>5</podcast:episode><itunes:summary>Quick Episode Summary


:19 Intro!


1:05 Personal Checkin

Jes celebrates another year around the sun with friends and perspective. 

Rob&apos;s 2-year-old son just got out of a cast from a broken leg and has not slowed down. 


3:33 Introduction of Satana Deberry (Durham Co. District Attorney)


4:45 Satana Deberry&apos;s background and her &quot;why.&quot;

Locally born and raised 

Educated at Duke

Practiced law in her home town and discovered her &quot;why.&quot;


8:43 Satana&apos;s thoughts on Just Mercy and the timing of the film&apos;s release. 


11:03 Who is the client of the District Attorney&apos;s office?

Working for the citizens of Durham county.

Getting to the most just outcome.


12:55 Sponsor Break


13:15 What are you losing sleep over as the District Attorney?

Being under the microscope as a public figure. 

The dirty little secret of the criminal justice system. 


16:20 Waving the magic wand and the one big fix to overhaul the criminal justice system.


19:42 The Show Up Moment: 

Don&apos;t be afraid to learn. 

Don&apos;t be afraid to have tough conversations with your circle. 


22:55 Episode Debrief and first reactions.

The power of proximity 

The limitations of doing the work as it currently is asked of us. 


27:48 Outro


Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!

 Follow DJ Pdogg online:

www.djpdogg.com

Twitter

Instagram

Follow Producer Lo Key

Instagram


Our Guest
Satana Deberry
Durham County District Attorney&apos;s Office.

Articles and Links mentioned by Rob and Jes

Capitol Broadcasting Podcast Network

Just Mercy - Movie

Just Mercy - Book

Equal Justice Initiative


Dominique Gilliard - Rethinking Incarceration (Book)

Just Mercy discussion guide

The Legacy Museum: From Enslavement to Mass Incarceration. 

The National Memorial for Peace and Justice


Our sponsors:

ReCity Network

Coastal Credit Union

Our hosts:
Jes Averhart, cofounder of Black Wallstreet Homecoming
Rob Shields, executive director of the Recity Network.
Our Producer:
Michael Baylor</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Capitol Broadcasting Company</itunes:author></item><item><title>Just Mercy Pt.1 - Ep. 4</title><itunes:title>Just Mercy pt. 1</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Jes and Rob discuss the movie Just Mercy, its themes, and how the movie impacted their lives.</p><p><br></p><p>Quick Episode Summary</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>:19&nbsp;Intro!</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>1:04&nbsp;Personal Checkin</p><p><br></p><p>Jes celebrates a milestone in her son's life</p><p><br></p><p>Rob's 3-year-old is a Kanye West fan and&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>4:09&nbsp;Overview of mass incarceration in America</p><p><br></p><p>highest incarceration rates in the entire world</p><p><br></p><p>97% of people take a plea bargain in place of going to trial.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>8:39&nbsp;Just Mercy&nbsp;Overview</p><p><br></p><p>Dominique Gilliard unpacks the movie from the viewer's point of view.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>Harper Lee and Just Mercy geographical connection</p><p><br></p><p>The story of Bryan Stevenson and Walter McMillian</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>12:22&nbsp;Jes gives her initial thoughts&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>"You are guilty from the moment you are born."</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>14:19&nbsp;Rob gives his initial thoughts</p><p><br></p><p>Seeing Bryan Stevenson as a mentor from afar.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>Learning just as much from the company as the movie's content.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>17:14&nbsp;Remembering the cost of seeking justice</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>21:24&nbsp;The hidden cost of processing the content</p><p><br></p><p>Experiencing content based on what you uniquely bring to the table.</p><p><br></p><p>Choosing when and when not to talk during tough conversations.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>24:46&nbsp;Episode debrief and looking ahead to pt. 2</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>25:54&nbsp;Outro</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>26:28&nbsp;Next episode preview</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p><br></p><p>&nbsp;Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><p><br></p><p>www.djpdogg.com</p><p><br></p><p>Twitter</p><p><br></p><p>Instagram</p><p><br></p><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><p><br></p><p>Instagram</p><p><br></p><p>Articles and Links mentioned by Rob and Jes</p><p><br></p><p>Capitol Broadcasting Podcast Network</p><p><br></p><p>Just Mercy - Movie</p><p><br></p><p>Just Mercy - Book</p><p><br></p><p>Equal Justice Initiative</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Dominique Gilliard - Rethinking Incarceration&nbsp;(Book)</p><p><br></p><p>Just Mercy discussion guide</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Our sponsors:</p><p><br></p><p>ReCity Network</p><p><br></p><p>Coastal Credit Union</p><p><br></p><p>Our hosts:</p><p>Jes Averhart, cofounder of&nbsp;Black Wallstreet Homecoming</p><p>Rob Shields, executive director of the&nbsp;Recity Network.</p><p>Our Producer:</p><p>Michael Baylor</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jes and Rob discuss the movie Just Mercy, its themes, and how the movie impacted their lives.</p><p><br></p><p>Quick Episode Summary</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>:19&nbsp;Intro!</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>1:04&nbsp;Personal Checkin</p><p><br></p><p>Jes celebrates a milestone in her son's life</p><p><br></p><p>Rob's 3-year-old is a Kanye West fan and&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>4:09&nbsp;Overview of mass incarceration in America</p><p><br></p><p>highest incarceration rates in the entire world</p><p><br></p><p>97% of people take a plea bargain in place of going to trial.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>8:39&nbsp;Just Mercy&nbsp;Overview</p><p><br></p><p>Dominique Gilliard unpacks the movie from the viewer's point of view.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>Harper Lee and Just Mercy geographical connection</p><p><br></p><p>The story of Bryan Stevenson and Walter McMillian</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>12:22&nbsp;Jes gives her initial thoughts&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>"You are guilty from the moment you are born."</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>14:19&nbsp;Rob gives his initial thoughts</p><p><br></p><p>Seeing Bryan Stevenson as a mentor from afar.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>Learning just as much from the company as the movie's content.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>17:14&nbsp;Remembering the cost of seeking justice</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>21:24&nbsp;The hidden cost of processing the content</p><p><br></p><p>Experiencing content based on what you uniquely bring to the table.</p><p><br></p><p>Choosing when and when not to talk during tough conversations.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>24:46&nbsp;Episode debrief and looking ahead to pt. 2</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>25:54&nbsp;Outro</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>26:28&nbsp;Next episode preview</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p><br></p><p>&nbsp;Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><p><br></p><p>www.djpdogg.com</p><p><br></p><p>Twitter</p><p><br></p><p>Instagram</p><p><br></p><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><p><br></p><p>Instagram</p><p><br></p><p>Articles and Links mentioned by Rob and Jes</p><p><br></p><p>Capitol Broadcasting Podcast Network</p><p><br></p><p>Just Mercy - Movie</p><p><br></p><p>Just Mercy - Book</p><p><br></p><p>Equal Justice Initiative</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Dominique Gilliard - Rethinking Incarceration&nbsp;(Book)</p><p><br></p><p>Just Mercy discussion guide</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Our sponsors:</p><p><br></p><p>ReCity Network</p><p><br></p><p>Coastal Credit Union</p><p><br></p><p>Our hosts:</p><p>Jes Averhart, cofounder of&nbsp;Black Wallstreet Homecoming</p><p>Rob Shields, executive director of the&nbsp;Recity Network.</p><p>Our Producer:</p><p>Michael Baylor</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://cms.megaphone.fm/channel/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">f746fc36-5c46-11ea-b63f-8b52b3e10541</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/8e4f5b58-1ba9-407b-a8ff-e2ca7df6f5e9/uploads_2f1579211784644-j5le3o8sam-958eebfa0c6df8b4bc6c88a9ac466484_2f200108justidentity-2a.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Capitol Broadcasting Company]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2020 12:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/9c885fb6-f9e0-4739-91cd-09a25275312b/capitol1123243492.mp3" length="39532139" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>27:25</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>4</podcast:episode><itunes:summary>Quick Episode Summary


:19 Intro!


1:04 Personal Checkin

Jes celebrates a milestone in her son&apos;s life

Rob&apos;s 3-year-old is a Kanye West fan and 


4:09 Overview of mass incarceration in America

highest incarceration rates in the entire world

97% of people take a plea bargain in place of going to trial. 


8:39 Just Mercy Overview

Dominique Gilliard unpacks the movie from the viewer&apos;s point of view. 

Harper Lee and Just Mercy geographical connection

The story of Bryan Stevenson and Walter McMillian


12:22 Jes gives her initial thoughts 

&quot;You are guilty from the moment you are born.&quot;


14:19 Rob gives his initial thoughts

Seeing Bryan Stevenson as a mentor from afar. 

Learning just as much from the company as the movie&apos;s content. 


17:14 Remembering the cost of seeking justice


21:24 The hidden cost of processing the content

Experiencing content based on what you uniquely bring to the table.

Choosing when and when not to talk during tough conversations. 


24:46 Episode debrief and looking ahead to pt. 2


25:54 Outro


26:28 Next episode preview


Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!

 Follow DJ Pdogg online:

www.djpdogg.com

Twitter

Instagram

Follow Producer Lo Key

Instagram

Articles and Links mentioned by Rob and Jes

Capitol Broadcasting Podcast Network

Just Mercy - Movie

Just Mercy - Book

Equal Justice Initiative


Dominique Gilliard - Rethinking Incarceration (Book)

Just Mercy discussion guide


Our sponsors:

ReCity Network

Coastal Credit Union

Our hosts:
Jes Averhart, cofounder of Black Wallstreet Homecoming
Rob Shields, executive director of the Recity Network.
Our Producer:
Michael Baylor</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Capitol Broadcasting Company</itunes:author></item><item><title>The Activist Entrepreneur - Ep. 3</title><itunes:title>The Activist Entrepreneur</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Tune into this week’s episode to hear how Cecilia Polanco, a social entrepreneur, integrates this proverb in her business So Good Pupusas. Cecilia Polanco describes how she “shows up” for her community.&nbsp; Listen now to hear more about what it means to show up for your others.</p><p>Quick Episode Summary</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>:00&nbsp;Sponsor highlight - ReCity</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>:20&nbsp;Intro!</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>:45&nbsp;Personal Check in</p><p><br></p><p>Rob is learning that he can't change anyone's mind by arguing and how to communicate complex truths.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>Jes had an exhausting evening speaking at an event that felt like a racial equity 101 training.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>4:55&nbsp;Rob and Jes Introduce Cecilia</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>6:00&nbsp;Defining social entrepreneurship&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>7:40&nbsp;Cecilia tells her story</p><p><br></p><p>Cecilia sees herself as an&nbsp;activist&nbsp;entrepreneur.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>What So Good Pupusas is</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>9:32&nbsp;Who are the scholarships for?&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>Cecilia's educational background</p><p><br></p><p>Finding privilege amid disadvantage</p><p><br></p><p>The duality and complexity of privilege</p><p><br></p><p>The privilege of being the only person in her family to be born in the U.S.A.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>12:55 Sponsor Highlight - Coastal Credit Union</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>14:00&nbsp;Impact of So Good Pupusas on others</p><p><br></p><p>An employee who recently achieved naturalization</p><p><br></p><p>All employees have value and contribute to the end goal</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>16:20&nbsp;What do you say to people in your shadow?</p><p><br></p><p>Before you speak, listen for how to help.</p><p><br></p><p>Be mindful of the impact you have by showing up for people</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>18:00&nbsp;How can we show up?</p><p><br></p><p>show up and eat/ order catering</p><p><br></p><p>donate</p><p><br></p><p>being an ally and an accomplice</p><p><br></p><p>listening to community leaders and taking action</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>22:22&nbsp;Episode debrief</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>25:25&nbsp;Outro</p><p><br></p><p>Our Guest</p><p>Cecilia Polanco&nbsp;-&nbsp;So Good Pupusas&nbsp;/&nbsp;Pupusas for Education&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p><br></p><p>&nbsp;Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><p><br></p><p>www.djpdogg.com</p><p><br></p><p>Twitter</p><p><br></p><p>Instagram</p><p><br></p><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><p><br></p><p>Instagram</p><p><br></p><p>Articles and Links mentioned by Rob and Jes</p><p><br></p><p>Capitol Broadcasting Podcast Network</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Emergent Strategy&nbsp;- Adrienne Maree Brown</p><p><br></p><p>So Good Pupusas</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Pupusas for Education&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Our sponsors:</p><p><br></p><p>ReCity Network</p><p><br></p><p>Coastal Credit Union</p><p><br></p><p>Our hosts:</p><p>Jes Averhart, cofounder of&nbsp;Black Wallstreet Homecoming</p><p>Rob Shields, executive director of the&nbsp;Recity Network.</p><p>Our Producer:</p><p>Michael Baylor</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tune into this week’s episode to hear how Cecilia Polanco, a social entrepreneur, integrates this proverb in her business So Good Pupusas. Cecilia Polanco describes how she “shows up” for her community.&nbsp; Listen now to hear more about what it means to show up for your others.</p><p>Quick Episode Summary</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>:00&nbsp;Sponsor highlight - ReCity</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>:20&nbsp;Intro!</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>:45&nbsp;Personal Check in</p><p><br></p><p>Rob is learning that he can't change anyone's mind by arguing and how to communicate complex truths.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>Jes had an exhausting evening speaking at an event that felt like a racial equity 101 training.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>4:55&nbsp;Rob and Jes Introduce Cecilia</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>6:00&nbsp;Defining social entrepreneurship&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>7:40&nbsp;Cecilia tells her story</p><p><br></p><p>Cecilia sees herself as an&nbsp;activist&nbsp;entrepreneur.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>What So Good Pupusas is</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>9:32&nbsp;Who are the scholarships for?&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>Cecilia's educational background</p><p><br></p><p>Finding privilege amid disadvantage</p><p><br></p><p>The duality and complexity of privilege</p><p><br></p><p>The privilege of being the only person in her family to be born in the U.S.A.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>12:55 Sponsor Highlight - Coastal Credit Union</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>14:00&nbsp;Impact of So Good Pupusas on others</p><p><br></p><p>An employee who recently achieved naturalization</p><p><br></p><p>All employees have value and contribute to the end goal</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>16:20&nbsp;What do you say to people in your shadow?</p><p><br></p><p>Before you speak, listen for how to help.</p><p><br></p><p>Be mindful of the impact you have by showing up for people</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>18:00&nbsp;How can we show up?</p><p><br></p><p>show up and eat/ order catering</p><p><br></p><p>donate</p><p><br></p><p>being an ally and an accomplice</p><p><br></p><p>listening to community leaders and taking action</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>22:22&nbsp;Episode debrief</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>25:25&nbsp;Outro</p><p><br></p><p>Our Guest</p><p>Cecilia Polanco&nbsp;-&nbsp;So Good Pupusas&nbsp;/&nbsp;Pupusas for Education&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p><br></p><p>&nbsp;Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><p><br></p><p>www.djpdogg.com</p><p><br></p><p>Twitter</p><p><br></p><p>Instagram</p><p><br></p><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><p><br></p><p>Instagram</p><p><br></p><p>Articles and Links mentioned by Rob and Jes</p><p><br></p><p>Capitol Broadcasting Podcast Network</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Emergent Strategy&nbsp;- Adrienne Maree Brown</p><p><br></p><p>So Good Pupusas</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Pupusas for Education&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Our sponsors:</p><p><br></p><p>ReCity Network</p><p><br></p><p>Coastal Credit Union</p><p><br></p><p>Our hosts:</p><p>Jes Averhart, cofounder of&nbsp;Black Wallstreet Homecoming</p><p>Rob Shields, executive director of the&nbsp;Recity Network.</p><p>Our Producer:</p><p>Michael Baylor</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://cms.megaphone.fm/channel/just-podcast?selected=CAPITOL3490023965]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">92fba59a-513a-11ea-9407-fb1c59da5b9e</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/8e4f5b58-1ba9-407b-a8ff-e2ca7df6f5e9/uploads_2f1579211784644-j5le3o8sam-958eebfa0c6df8b4bc6c88a9ac466484_2f200108justidentity-2a.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Capitol Broadcasting Company]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 17 Feb 2020 11:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/447ebde0-9cba-4978-a548-20f6b0d4b5f7/capitol3490023965.mp3" length="38267016" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>26:32</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>3</podcast:episode><itunes:summary>Quick Episode Summary


:00 Sponsor highlight - ReCity


:20 Intro!


:45 Personal Check in

Rob is learning that he can&apos;t change anyone&apos;s mind by arguing and how to communicate complex truths. 

Jes had an exhausting evening speaking at an event that felt like a racial equity 101 training.


4:55 Rob and Jes Introduce Cecilia


6:00 Defining social entrepreneurship 


7:40 Cecilia tells her story

Cecilia sees herself as an activist entrepreneur. 

What So Good Pupusas is


9:32 Who are the scholarships for? 

Cecilia&apos;s educational background

Finding privilege amid disadvantage

The duality and complexity of privilege

The privilege of being the only person in her family to be born in the U.S.A.


12:55 Sponsor Highlight - Coastal Credit Union


14:00 Impact of So Good Pupusas on others

An employee who recently achieved naturalization

All employees have value and contribute to the end goal


16:20 What do you say to people in your shadow?

Before you speak, listen for how to help.

Be mindful of the impact you have by showing up for people


18:00 How can we show up?

show up and eat/ order catering

donate

being an ally and an accomplice

listening to community leaders and taking action


22:22 Episode debrief


25:25 Outro

Our Guest
Cecilia Polanco - So Good Pupusas / Pupusas for Education 

Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!

 Follow DJ Pdogg online:

www.djpdogg.com

Twitter

Instagram

Follow Producer Lo Key

Instagram

Articles and Links mentioned by Rob and Jes

Capitol Broadcasting Podcast Network


Emergent Strategy - Adrienne Maree Brown

So Good Pupusas


Pupusas for Education 


Our sponsors:

ReCity Network

Coastal Credit Union

Our hosts:
Jes Averhart, cofounder of Black Wallstreet Homecoming
Rob Shields, executive director of the Recity Network.
Our Producer:
Michael Baylor</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Capitol Broadcasting Company</itunes:author></item><item><title>Is Entrepreneurship Just? - Ep. 2</title><itunes:title>Is Entrepreneurship Just?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Is entrepreneurship just? Tune into our podcast to hear more about national and local entrepreneurship trends and how they impact necessity driven entrepreneurs. Listen now to hear Geraud Staton of the Helius Foundation speak to how entrepreneurs overcome adversity through their work.</p><p>Quick Episode Summary</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>:00&nbsp;Sponsor highlight - ReCity</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>:15&nbsp;Intro!</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>1:00&nbsp;Personal Checkin</p><p><br></p><p>Jes is trying to sell her car while not getting taken advantage of.</p><p><br></p><p>Rob is also in the market for a car and offers to help Jes buy a new car.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>3:55&nbsp;Rob and Jes Introduce Geraud</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>4:30&nbsp;Is entrepreneurship just?</p><p><br></p><p>Afrotech regional ranking for blacks in tech.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>MDC stats on social mobility in Durham and Wake counties</p><p><br></p><p>Monopoly study and how the system is rigged.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>8:45&nbsp;Necessity driven entrepreneurs</p><p><br></p><p>What makes someone a necessity driven entrepreneur, and what makes them different from other entrepreneurs?</p><p><br></p><p>How learned helplessness contributes to the hurdles entrepreneurs face.</p><p><br></p><p>Changing from scarcity to abundance mindsets&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>12:20&nbsp;Dr. Seligman's studies on learned helplessness</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>14:44&nbsp;Sponsor Highlight - Coastal Credit Union</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>14:45&nbsp;Finding hope in injustice</p><p><br></p><p>Why do you have hope?</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>16:30&nbsp;What does The Helius Foundation tangibly do?</p><p><br></p><p>10-week cohort model &amp; training</p><p><br></p><p>Monthly personal mentorship and business training</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>19:00&nbsp;How can we show up?</p><p><br></p><p>donate</p><p><br></p><p>mentoring</p><p><br></p><p>supporting Helius entrepreneurs&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>21:30&nbsp;Episode debrief</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>26:00&nbsp;Outro</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>26:30&nbsp;Next episode preview</p><p><br></p><p>Our Guest</p><p>Geraud Staton -&nbsp;The Helius Foundation</p><p><br></p><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p><br></p><p>&nbsp;Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><p><br></p><p>www.djpdogg.com</p><p><br></p><p>Twitter</p><p><br></p><p>Instagram</p><p><br></p><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><p><br></p><p>Instagram</p><p><br></p><p>Articles and Links mentioned by Rob and Jes</p><p><br></p><p>Capitol Broadcasting Podcast Network</p><p><br></p><p>Bryan Stevenson - Just Mercy</p><p><br></p><p>MDC on&nbsp;social mobility in North Carolina</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Dr. Muktha Jost - Monopoly Study -&nbsp;When the rules are fair, but the game isn't.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Dr. Martin Seligman -&nbsp;Learned Helplessness</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Our sponsors:</p><p><br></p><p>ReCity Network</p><p><br></p><p>Coastal Credit Union</p><p><br></p><p>Our hosts:</p><p>Jes Averhart, cofounder of&nbsp;Black Wallstreet Homecoming</p><p>Rob Shields, executive director of the&nbsp;Recity Network.</p><p>Our Producer:</p><p>Michael Baylor</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is entrepreneurship just? Tune into our podcast to hear more about national and local entrepreneurship trends and how they impact necessity driven entrepreneurs. Listen now to hear Geraud Staton of the Helius Foundation speak to how entrepreneurs overcome adversity through their work.</p><p>Quick Episode Summary</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>:00&nbsp;Sponsor highlight - ReCity</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>:15&nbsp;Intro!</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>1:00&nbsp;Personal Checkin</p><p><br></p><p>Jes is trying to sell her car while not getting taken advantage of.</p><p><br></p><p>Rob is also in the market for a car and offers to help Jes buy a new car.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>3:55&nbsp;Rob and Jes Introduce Geraud</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>4:30&nbsp;Is entrepreneurship just?</p><p><br></p><p>Afrotech regional ranking for blacks in tech.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>MDC stats on social mobility in Durham and Wake counties</p><p><br></p><p>Monopoly study and how the system is rigged.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>8:45&nbsp;Necessity driven entrepreneurs</p><p><br></p><p>What makes someone a necessity driven entrepreneur, and what makes them different from other entrepreneurs?</p><p><br></p><p>How learned helplessness contributes to the hurdles entrepreneurs face.</p><p><br></p><p>Changing from scarcity to abundance mindsets&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>12:20&nbsp;Dr. Seligman's studies on learned helplessness</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>14:44&nbsp;Sponsor Highlight - Coastal Credit Union</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>14:45&nbsp;Finding hope in injustice</p><p><br></p><p>Why do you have hope?</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>16:30&nbsp;What does The Helius Foundation tangibly do?</p><p><br></p><p>10-week cohort model &amp; training</p><p><br></p><p>Monthly personal mentorship and business training</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>19:00&nbsp;How can we show up?</p><p><br></p><p>donate</p><p><br></p><p>mentoring</p><p><br></p><p>supporting Helius entrepreneurs&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>21:30&nbsp;Episode debrief</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>26:00&nbsp;Outro</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>26:30&nbsp;Next episode preview</p><p><br></p><p>Our Guest</p><p>Geraud Staton -&nbsp;The Helius Foundation</p><p><br></p><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p><br></p><p>&nbsp;Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><p><br></p><p>www.djpdogg.com</p><p><br></p><p>Twitter</p><p><br></p><p>Instagram</p><p><br></p><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><p><br></p><p>Instagram</p><p><br></p><p>Articles and Links mentioned by Rob and Jes</p><p><br></p><p>Capitol Broadcasting Podcast Network</p><p><br></p><p>Bryan Stevenson - Just Mercy</p><p><br></p><p>MDC on&nbsp;social mobility in North Carolina</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Dr. Muktha Jost - Monopoly Study -&nbsp;When the rules are fair, but the game isn't.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Dr. Martin Seligman -&nbsp;Learned Helplessness</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Our sponsors:</p><p><br></p><p>ReCity Network</p><p><br></p><p>Coastal Credit Union</p><p><br></p><p>Our hosts:</p><p>Jes Averhart, cofounder of&nbsp;Black Wallstreet Homecoming</p><p>Rob Shields, executive director of the&nbsp;Recity Network.</p><p>Our Producer:</p><p>Michael Baylor</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://cms.megaphone.fm/channel/just-podcast?selected=CAPITOL3490023965]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">3477999e-4644-11ea-a1a2-33807d47d51c</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/8e4f5b58-1ba9-407b-a8ff-e2ca7df6f5e9/uploads_2f1579211784644-j5le3o8sam-958eebfa0c6df8b4bc6c88a9ac466484_2f200108justidentity-2a.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Capitol Broadcasting Company]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 03 Feb 2020 11:30:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/3c105bd8-7fa3-464b-81cd-ce9d9280b67a/capitol1137875428.mp3" length="39643382" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>27:29</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><podcast:episode>2</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Quick Episode Summary


:00 Sponsor highlight - ReCity


:15 Intro!


1:00 Personal Checkin

Jes is trying to sell her car while not getting taken advantage of.

Rob is also in the market for a car and offers to help Jes buy a new car. 


3:55 Rob and Jes Introduce Geraud


4:30 Is entrepreneurship just?

Afrotech regional ranking for blacks in tech. 

MDC stats on social mobility in Durham and Wake counties

Monopoly study and how the system is rigged.


8:45 Necessity driven entrepreneurs

What makes someone a necessity driven entrepreneur, and what makes them different from other entrepreneurs?

How learned helplessness contributes to the hurdles entrepreneurs face.

Changing from scarcity to abundance mindsets 


12:20 Dr. Seligman&apos;s studies on learned helplessness


14:44 Sponsor Highlight - Coastal Credit Union


14:45 Finding hope in injustice

Why do you have hope?


16:30 What does The Helius Foundation tangibly do?

10-week cohort model &amp; training

Monthly personal mentorship and business training


19:00 How can we show up?

donate

mentoring

supporting Helius entrepreneurs 


21:30 Episode debrief


26:00 Outro


26:30 Next episode preview

Our Guest
Geraud Staton - The Helius Foundation

Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!

 Follow DJ Pdogg online:

www.djpdogg.com

Twitter

Instagram

Follow Producer Lo Key

Instagram

Articles and Links mentioned by Rob and Jes

Capitol Broadcasting Podcast Network

Bryan Stevenson - Just Mercy

MDC on social mobility in North Carolina


Dr. Muktha Jost - Monopoly Study - When the rules are fair, but the game isn&apos;t.


Dr. Martin Seligman - Learned Helplessness



Our sponsors:

ReCity Network

Coastal Credit Union

Our hosts:
Jes Averhart, cofounder of Black Wallstreet Homecoming
Rob Shields, executive director of the Recity Network.
Our Producer:
Michael Baylor</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Capitol Broadcasting Company</itunes:author></item><item><title>An introduction to justice - Ep. 1</title><itunes:title>An introduction to justice</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>ReCity’s mission is to build thriving communities, rooted in justice.&nbsp; Listen to the first episode of our podcast to hear more about our mindset and mission! Rob and Jes discuss working definitions of justice.</p><p>Quick Episode Summary</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>:07&nbsp;Intro!</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>:45&nbsp;Personal Checkin</p><p><br></p><p>Rob tries to survive daylight savings time with toddlers</p><p><br></p><p>Jes's son goes viral with Grandma on Tik Tok</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>4:26&nbsp;Rob and Jes define&nbsp;justice</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Entitlement</p><p><br></p><p>Just Mercy Movie and Bryan Stevenson's view on Justice</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>11:10&nbsp;Sponsor Highlight - Coastal Credit Union</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>11:13&nbsp;Why this podcast? Why now?</p><p><br></p><p>Fractured communities leading to a lack of empathy</p><p><br></p><p>The need to move from conversation to action</p><p><br></p><p>The 400-year-old tree of injustice</p><p><br></p><p>Being open to being curious and training ourselves to learn</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>16:15&nbsp;What can you expect?</p><p><br></p><p>A safe space</p><p><br></p><p>Community centric conversations</p><p><br></p><p>Bridge-building</p><p><br></p><p>Fair and impartial</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>19:43&nbsp;What kinds of stories will we tell?</p><p><br></p><p>real and inspiring stories</p><p><br></p><p>stories that educate</p><p><br></p><p>stories that shine a light</p><p><br></p><p>stories that inspire action</p><p><br></p><p>stories from marginalized voices</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>21:14&nbsp;What roles do Jes and Rob fill?</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>23:00&nbsp;How do we show up? The show-up moment.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>24:57&nbsp;Outro</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>25:30 Next episode preview</p><p><br></p><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p><br></p><p>&nbsp;Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><p><br></p><p>www.djpdogg.com</p><p><br></p><p>Twitter</p><p><br></p><p>Instagram</p><p><br></p><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><p><br></p><p>Instagram</p><p><br></p><p>Articles and Links mentioned by Rob and Jes</p><p><br></p><p>Capitol Broadcasting Podcast Network</p><p><br></p><p>Bryan Stevenson - Just Mercy</p><p><br></p><p>Our sponsors:</p><p><br></p><p>ReCity Network</p><p><br></p><p>Coastal Credit Union</p><p><br></p><p>Our hosts:</p><p>Jes Averhart, cofounder of&nbsp;Black Wallstreet Homecoming</p><p>Rob Shields, executive director of the&nbsp;Recity Network.</p><p>Our Producer:</p><p>Michael Baylor</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ReCity’s mission is to build thriving communities, rooted in justice.&nbsp; Listen to the first episode of our podcast to hear more about our mindset and mission! Rob and Jes discuss working definitions of justice.</p><p>Quick Episode Summary</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>:07&nbsp;Intro!</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>:45&nbsp;Personal Checkin</p><p><br></p><p>Rob tries to survive daylight savings time with toddlers</p><p><br></p><p>Jes's son goes viral with Grandma on Tik Tok</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>4:26&nbsp;Rob and Jes define&nbsp;justice</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Entitlement</p><p><br></p><p>Just Mercy Movie and Bryan Stevenson's view on Justice</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>11:10&nbsp;Sponsor Highlight - Coastal Credit Union</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>11:13&nbsp;Why this podcast? Why now?</p><p><br></p><p>Fractured communities leading to a lack of empathy</p><p><br></p><p>The need to move from conversation to action</p><p><br></p><p>The 400-year-old tree of injustice</p><p><br></p><p>Being open to being curious and training ourselves to learn</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>16:15&nbsp;What can you expect?</p><p><br></p><p>A safe space</p><p><br></p><p>Community centric conversations</p><p><br></p><p>Bridge-building</p><p><br></p><p>Fair and impartial</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>19:43&nbsp;What kinds of stories will we tell?</p><p><br></p><p>real and inspiring stories</p><p><br></p><p>stories that educate</p><p><br></p><p>stories that shine a light</p><p><br></p><p>stories that inspire action</p><p><br></p><p>stories from marginalized voices</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>21:14&nbsp;What roles do Jes and Rob fill?</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>23:00&nbsp;How do we show up? The show-up moment.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>24:57&nbsp;Outro</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>25:30 Next episode preview</p><p><br></p><p>Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!</p><p><br></p><p>&nbsp;Follow DJ Pdogg online:</p><p><br></p><p>www.djpdogg.com</p><p><br></p><p>Twitter</p><p><br></p><p>Instagram</p><p><br></p><p>Follow Producer Lo Key</p><p><br></p><p>Instagram</p><p><br></p><p>Articles and Links mentioned by Rob and Jes</p><p><br></p><p>Capitol Broadcasting Podcast Network</p><p><br></p><p>Bryan Stevenson - Just Mercy</p><p><br></p><p>Our sponsors:</p><p><br></p><p>ReCity Network</p><p><br></p><p>Coastal Credit Union</p><p><br></p><p>Our hosts:</p><p>Jes Averhart, cofounder of&nbsp;Black Wallstreet Homecoming</p><p>Rob Shields, executive director of the&nbsp;Recity Network.</p><p>Our Producer:</p><p>Michael Baylor</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://cms.megaphone.fm/channel/just-podcast?selected=CAPITOL3490023965]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">2a803c80-3978-11ea-9fec-a74782c9b2d1</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/8e4f5b58-1ba9-407b-a8ff-e2ca7df6f5e9/uploads_2f1579211784644-j5le3o8sam-958eebfa0c6df8b4bc6c88a9ac466484_2f200108justidentity-2a.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Capitol Broadcasting Company]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 20 Jan 2020 11:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/99542089-11bc-44da-a2b3-1a85bccb0f39/capitol6037963364.mp3" length="25722760" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>26:44</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><podcast:episode>1</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><itunes:summary>Quick Episode Summary


:07 Intro!


:45 Personal Checkin

Rob tries to survive daylight savings time with toddlers

Jes&apos;s son goes viral with Grandma on Tik Tok


4:26 Rob and Jes define justice


Entitlement

Just Mercy Movie and Bryan Stevenson&apos;s view on Justice


11:10 Sponsor Highlight - Coastal Credit Union


11:13 Why this podcast? Why now?

Fractured communities leading to a lack of empathy

The need to move from conversation to action

The 400-year-old tree of injustice

Being open to being curious and training ourselves to learn


16:15 What can you expect?

A safe space

Community centric conversations

Bridge-building

Fair and impartial


19:43 What kinds of stories will we tell?

real and inspiring stories

stories that educate

stories that shine a light

stories that inspire action

stories from marginalized voices


21:14 What roles do Jes and Rob fill?


23:00 How do we show up? The show-up moment.


24:57 Outro


25:30 Next episode preview

Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!

 Follow DJ Pdogg online:

www.djpdogg.com

Twitter

Instagram

Follow Producer Lo Key

Instagram

Articles and Links mentioned by Rob and Jes

Capitol Broadcasting Podcast Network

Bryan Stevenson - Just Mercy

Our sponsors:

ReCity Network

Coastal Credit Union

Our hosts:
Jes Averhart, cofounder of Black Wallstreet Homecoming
Rob Shields, executive director of the Recity Network.
Our Producer:
Michael Baylor</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Capitol Broadcasting Company</itunes:author></item><item><title>JUST: Trailer</title><itunes:title>Season 1 Trailer</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[From the Capitol Broadcasting Podcast Network, in conjunction with ReCity and Coastal Credit Union, you’re listening to JUST, stories about the people working to build thriving communities rooted in justice. ]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[From the Capitol Broadcasting Podcast Network, in conjunction with ReCity and Coastal Credit Union, you’re listening to JUST, stories about the people working to build thriving communities rooted in justice. ]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://www.recitynetwork.org/just-podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">a14858ce-38ac-11ea-9b10-e37a3749e023</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/8e4f5b58-1ba9-407b-a8ff-e2ca7df6f5e9/uploads_2f1579211784644-j5le3o8sam-958eebfa0c6df8b4bc6c88a9ac466484_2f200108justidentity-2a.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Capitol Broadcasting Company]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2020 22:03:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/6f5900e9-f4de-476c-8a45-81382bfdf2aa/capitol9677125960.mp3" length="3541009" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>02:25</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>trailer</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><itunes:summary>From the Capitol Broadcasting Podcast Network, in conjunction with ReCity and Coastal Credit Union, you’re listening to JUST, stories about the people working to build thriving communities rooted in justice. </itunes:summary><itunes:author>Capitol Broadcasting Company</itunes:author></item></channel></rss>