From growing up in segregated America to preparing for a historic mission around the Moon, their stories reveal what it truly takes to step into the unknown.

Bolden reflects on his journey from a childhood shaped by limited representation to becoming one of NASA’s first Black astronauts and later Administrator.

Glover, set to become the first Black astronaut to orbit the Moon on Artemis II, shares how curiosity, resilience, and unexpected moments shaped his path into spaceflight. Together, they highlight the importance of mentorship, visibility, and perseverance in building the future of space exploration.

This conversation explores identity, adversity, leadership, and the responsibility of representing humanity when leaving Earth.

In this episode you’ll discover:

• How Charlie Bolden overcame systemic barriers to become a trailblazer in human spaceflight.

• Why Victor Glover sees resilience, teamwork, and lifelong learning as essential traits for future astronauts.

• The role of representation in shaping ambition and why seeing someone like you in space can change everything.

• Behind-the-scenes stories of being selected as an astronaut and what those life-changing moments really felt like.

• How the NASA Space Shuttle programme expanded access to space beyond test pilots.

• The mindset required to navigate adversity, from discrimination to high-stakes decision making in elite environments.

• Why astronauts ultimately represent all of humanity, not just their country, when they leave Earth.

Quote:

“You don’t have to be number one. But you do have to know you’ve done the absolute best you can do.” — Charlie Bolden

00:00 Charlie Bolden's early life

06:08 Early inspirations and Naval Academy dreams

09:10 Encouragement to apply to NASA

11:33 Childhood adventures and exploration

15:49 How Shuttle opened space travel

17:05 Encouraging diversity in astronaut office

21:51 Getting the astronaut call

28:30 Struggling through Naval Academy life

31:42 Growing up

36:22 Visiting and speaking with troops

40:22 Importance of resilience and growth

41:26 Life lessons beyond the classroom

Executive Producer Toby Goodman Edited by Leo Hornak with Sound design by Lee Turner for Inter Astra, The Bolden Group and Kathy Sullivan

Together, they explored the evolution of space exploration: contrasting their moments of selection, training, early inspirations, and the ongoing journey toward greater diversity in the astronaut corps.

From reflections on those historic "one small step" days to the excitement and uncertainties surrounding humanity’s return to deep space.

With personal stories and practical wisdom you'll hear about what has changed, and what hasn’t, for women and underrepresented voices in space.

Sullivan and Koch discuss the skills and mindsets future explorers will need, and unpack how Artemis astronauts are laying the foundation for a new era of human spaceflight.

Whether you dream of spacewalks, or are simply fascinated by the people making the cosmos a little more accessible, this episode sets the stage for an inspiring season ahead.

• Episode produced by Toby Goodman for Inter Astra, The Charles F Bolden Group and Dr Kathy Sullivan.

00:00 Processing life-changing news

05:36 Training cycles and international missions

09:06 Pursuing passions over checklists

12:34 Passion for exploring Antarctica

13:15 Starting the astronaut interview process

18:53 Pursuing challenges and supporting others

21:20 Preparing for Artemis missions

23:37 Joining a seasoned mission team

28:12 Family involvement in space missions

30:20 Team meetings and collaboration

33:28 Testing Artemis mission docking systems

38:22 The rise of commercial spaceflight

40:09 Commercial lunar missions and NASA's role

45:03 Expanding global astronaut representation

48:41 The importance of the Artemis Accords

51:33 NASA's new spacewalking suit

53:24 Christina Koch and Artemis 2

Charlie joins me today to discuss the qualities aspiring astronauts need to cultivate to be chosen for modern space programs. You’ll hear about his career at NASA and the characteristics he thinks made him a NASA astronaut. He explores how the dawn of the new space age may change selection preferences for would-be astronauts. You’ll also learn the value of being a team player and why being a jack-of-all-trades is essential to becoming an astronaut of today and tomorrow.

“You will be technicians, scientists, and researchers all in one—and that’s the kind of people we’re going to be looking for.”

- Charlie Bolden

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

●      Qualities and characteristics NASA looked for in astronaut candidates in the 1980s

●      Civil rights in the 1980s and the psychological implications of growing up in the segregated South

●      Why being a team player is a high-value trait for NASA astronauts

●      Diversity as a trait of a high-performing organization

●      Why being a good fighter pilot doesn’t necessarily mean being a great astronaut

●      The lack of diversity in NASA’s Apollo era and how astronaut selection preferences have changed since

●      How the dawn of commercial spaceflight is changing preferences for would-be astronauts

●      How commercial spacecraft may change the employment prospects of future astronauts

●      The kind of crew NASA may seek for the Artemis program and beyond

●      Jessica Watkins, Kate Rubins, Peggy Whitson, and why researchers may be the astronauts of the future

●      Ridley Scott’s The Martian and what it takes to be a modern-day astronaut

Resources Mentioned:

●      Book: Riding Rockets: The Outrageous Tales of a Space Shuttle Astronaut by Mike Mullane

Our Favorite Quotes:

●      “A great test pilot isn’t necessarily going to be a great astronaut; a great test pilot with a big ego is going to be a lousy astronaut.” - Charlie Bolden

●      “The astronauts of today and tomorrow are not going to have the opportunity to train over and over again on something because they’ll find that every day is something new.” - Charlie Bolden

Connect with Charlie Bolden:

• Inter Astra

• Inter Astra on LinkedIn

• The Charles F. Bolden Group

• The Charles F. Bolden Group on LinkedIn

• The Charles F. Bolden Group on YouTube

• Charlie Bolden on LinkedIn

Credits:

Executive Producer: Toby Goodman

Audio & Sound Design: Lee Turner

Production by CxS Partners LTD

SPACESHIP NOT REQUIRED

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are… spaceship not required.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Charlie speaks with Kathy about his perspective on NASA’s transition from space shuttle operations to commercial space flight. You’ll gain insight into the real inside workings of Washington, DC, as well as his journey to becoming the 12th Administrator of NASA. Charlie also discusses what the future holds for space commerce and exploration, and the surprising who he'd like to take to space.

“OUR PURPOSE IS TO MAKE THE EARTH A BETTER, MORE SUSTAINABLE PLACE. I THINK WE’RE UP TO THE CHALLENGE.”

- CHARLIE BOLDEN

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

• Charlie’s last shuttle flight and the formation of the new space age

• NASA’s state of play and Charlie’s road to Washington DC

• His first experience with the National Space Council

• The time Charlie had to convince the Congressional Black Caucus of the need for a space station

• What working with Russian cosmonauts taught Charlie

• My experience interacting with Soviet astronauts and cosmonauts

• Charlie’s meeting with the former president, Barack Obama, and his nomination to NASA

• The birth of the SLS, Orion, and commercial crew and cargo

• Why NASA will remain the leader and catalyst for discovery

• The advantages of developing a vibrant commercial space sector

• The James Webb Space Telescope and what gives Charlie hope for the future

Our Favorite Quotes:

       “EVERY CREW BECOMES A FAMILY.”

- CHARLIE BOLDEN

       “STUDY HARD, WORK HARD, AND NEVER BE AFRAID OF FAILURE. LISTEN RESPECTFULLY TO YOUR PARENTS, BUT FOLLOW YOUR PASSION BECAUSE IT’S YOUR LIFE.”

- CHARLIE BOLDEN

Connect with Charlie Bolden:

• Inter Astra

• Inter Astra on LinkedIn

• The Charles F. Bolden Group

• The Charles F. Bolden Group on LinkedIn

• The Charles F. Bolden Group on YouTube

• Charlie Bolden on LinkedIn

Credits:

Executive Producer: Toby Goodman

Audio & Sound Design: Lee Turner

Production by CxS Partners LTD

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are… spaceship not required.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Charlie joins us today to describe what it was like growing up in the segregated South. He shares his experience as one of the first African Americans to attend the Naval Academy. You’ll learn how he became a pilot in the Marine Corps despite hating flying in his youth. He also shares his observations on the leadership culture of NASA and underscores the characteristics astronauts have in common.

“The one characteristic we all had in common in the Astronaut Corps is that we were all visionaries and dreamers—people who thought about what the world could be”

- Charlie Bolden

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

●      What it was like growing up in segregated South Carolina in the ‘60s

●       Charlie’s experiences with the Naval Academy

●       Why Charlie used to avoid flying airplanes

●       What eventually led Charlie to the Marine Corps during his plebe year at the Naval Academy

●       Finding his way to flight school and aviation

●       Charlie’s perceptions of NASA’s culture and leadership when he arrived at the Astronaut Corps

●       Bringing Apollo-era astronauts to the 20th century and making NASA a welcoming place for women and people of color

Our Favorite Quotes:

“The leadership skills in the astronaut office then were lacking, considering the challenge they had with making it a place that was openly welcoming to women and people of color. We were tolerated, rather than welcomed with open arms.”

- Charlie Bolden

“It’s not about the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog.”

- Charlie Bolden

Connect with Charlie Bolden:

• Inter Astra

• Inter Astra on LinkedIn

• The Charles F. Bolden Group

• The Charles F. Bolden Group on LinkedIn

• The Charles F. Bolden Group on YouTube

• Charlie Bolden on LinkedIn

Credits:

Executive Producer: Toby Goodman

Audio & Sound Design: Lee Turner

Production by CxS Partners LTD

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are… spaceship not required.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Today, Bill joins me to share his story. We talk about the young Bill Nye and the people and events that acted as his greatest influences. He talks about his experience doing stand-up and his life during the war in Vietnam. He discusses the different categories of science and the importance of its advancement. He discusses the role of Congress in this advancement and offers his solutions for political problems. He discusses the exploration of Europa and fields a series of rapid-fire questions.

“BY THE TIME SOMEBODY’S EIGHT YEARS OLD, HIS OR HER ABILITY TO REASON IS PRETTY GOOD. IT’S THE LIFE EXPERIENCE THAT YOU’RE MISSING.”

-

“BRAVERY IS WHEN YOU’VE ACTUALLY ASSESSED THE DANGER.”

- BILL NYE

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

• Bill Nye and the sundial on Mars
• Bill’s experience as an engineer
• The role of dancing in Bill’s life
• Political discussion
• The importance of the advancement of science

Mentioned Resources:

• The Planetary Society
• The Science Rules Podcast

Credits:

Inter Astra

Executive Producer: Toby Goodman

Audio & Sound Design: Lee Turner

Artwork: Ryan Field

Production by CxS Partners LTD 

First published - June 10th, 2021

In this episode, we explore Zolana’s profound journey from his challenging early years in war-torn Angola to his instrumental role in advancing Angola’s aspirations in space exploration.

With his deep commitment to education and his strategic vision, Zolana has been a driving force in launching Angola’s first satellites, significantly impacting his country’s development and representation in the global space community.

This episode was recorded at the Inter Astra Retreat just outside Washington DC last November (2023).

In this episode, you’ll discover:

• From Civil War to Space Pioneer: Zolana’s journey through adversity to space leadership.

• Strategic Mind in Angola’s Space Ascent: His pivotal role in launching Angola’s satellites.

• Lessons from Global Space Partnerships: How international collaborations shaped his strategy.

• Advocating for Future Innovators: Zolana’s efforts to inspire the next generation in Angola.

• Leadership Philosophy: Insights into overcoming obstacles in space sector leadership.

Quote: 

"I didn’t know that I was building muscle. Then after 9 months, I start applying for jobs in electrical engineering jobs. And I found, Motorola company. That time, Motorola was already in Angola, and they were hiring technicians. But I was scared because I was 17. I was not allowed officially to work yet. But I said, I have to gotta do something."  

- Zolana Joao

Episode Links: 

• Follow Inter Astra on LinkedIn 
• Discover more about Inter Astra 
• Connect with Zolana on LinkedIn

Credits:  

Production by CxS Partners LTD  

Executive Producer: Toby Goodman  

Audio & Sound Design: Lee Turner  

Artwork: Ryan Field 

Recorded on location on Nomono Sound Capsule 

Explore more episodes at Kathy Sullivan Explores... https://kathysullivaneexplores.com/ 

Find even more podcasts on the Inter Astra Podcast Network HERE 

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are… spaceship not required.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Stella’s passion for exploring the origins of life on other planets and her curiosity about the universe is truly inspiring. In our conversation, we discussed what it means to be an astrobiologist, the tools scientists use to search for life beyond Earth, and how high school student Stella can prepare for her career.

In this episode, you’ll discover:

• What astrobiologists do.

• The importance of STEM education in pursuing a career in space science.

• How young students can get involved in STEM programs and research opportunities.

• Stella’s inspirations and her goals for the future, including her dream universities.

• Insights from the Inter Astra Retreat.

Quote: 

"INTER ASTRA IS A GREAT WAY TO MAKE CONNECTIONS, TO GET INTERNSHIPS OR RESEARCH PROJECTS OR MENTORS WHO ALSO WOULD REALLY HELP ME."  

- STELLA MARCY

Episode Links: 

• Follow Inter Astra on LinkedIn 
• Discover more about Inter Astra 

Credits:  

Production by CxS Partners LTD  

Executive Producer: Toby Goodman  

Audio & Sound Design: Lee Turner  

Artwork: Ryan Field 

Recorded on location on Nomono Sound Capsule 

Explore more episodes at Kathy Sullivan Explores... https://kathysullivaneexplores.com/ 

Find even more podcasts on the Inter Astra Podcast Network HERE 

SPACESHIP NOT REQUIRED

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are… spaceship not required.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Listen to this exclusive trailer featuring conversations from the first two episodes:

1. Dr. Kathy Sullivan, a three-time NASA astronaut and the first American woman to walk in space speaks with Christina Koch, a serving NASA astronaut set to be the first woman to reach the moon.

2. General Charles F. Bolden, a four-time NASA astronaut, and the first black NASA administrator, speaks with Victor Glover, a serving NASA astronaut set to be the first black man to reach the moon.

🔎 Discover more podcasts on the Inter Astra Podcast Network at InterAstra.space

Credits:

🚀 For The Charles F. Blend Group & Inter Astra

🎙️ Production by CxS Partners LTD 

🎙️ Executive Producer: Toby Goodman & Leo Hornak

🔈 Audio & Sound Design: Lee Turner

🎨 Artwork: Ryan Field

Starting in the world of Wall Street, Lisa has a profound passion for advancing our understanding of the ocean through innovative technologies.  

Proteus, is being designed as the 'International Space Station of the Ocean,' aiming to revolutionize our approach to sustained underwater research. 

In this episode, Lisa shares the inspiring origins of Proteus, conceived by co-founder Fabien Cousteau, Grandson of Jacques Cousteau, and the ambitious goals they have for this pioneering project. Lisa details the technological and scientific advancements they hope to achieve and the broader implications for environmental research and space exploration analogs. 

In this episode, you'll discover: 

• Challenges and triumphs in creating a state-of-the-art research facility beneath the sea. 
• The role of Proteus in simulating space mission conditions and its implications for future space travel. 
• Collaborative initiatives with global scientific communities aimed at fostering significant advancements in ocean research. 
• Lisa’s aspirations for Proteus to leave a lasting impact by bridging the gap between oceanic exploration and space discovery. 

Quote:  

"Proteus isn't just about pushing the boundaries of ocean research; it's about creating a legacy that ties the mysteries of the ocean with the vastness of space."  

- Lisa Marrocchino 

Episode Links: 

• Learn more about Proteus Ocean Group 
• Connect with Lisa Marrocchino on LinkedIn 
• Follow Inter Astra on LinkedIn 
• Discover more about Inter Astra 

Credits:  

Production by CxS Partners LTD  

Executive Producer: Toby Goodman  

Audio & Sound Design: Lee Turner  

Artwork: Ryan Field 

Main interview recorded on location with Nomono Sound Capsule 

Explore more episodes at Kathy Sullivan Explores... https://kathysullivaneexplores.com/ 

Find even more podcasts on the Inter Astra Podcast Network HERE 

Environmental Intelligence in Space with Dr. Kathy Sullivan

Dr. Kathy Sullivan is a distinguished scientist, astronaut, and explorer who has contributed to our understanding of space and the Earth’s oceans. As the first American woman to walk in space and a veteran of three NASA space shuttle missions, Dr. Sullivan has reached both the heights of outer space and the depths of our oceans. 

As an accomplished geologist, she has explored the complexities of marine geology and geophysics, and her tenure as the head of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) solidified her reputation as a trailblazer in environmental intelligence. 

Her profound experience offers invaluable insights into our planet's life support systems — the oceans, the atmosphere, and the interconnected environments that sustain us.

In this episode, Dr. Sullivan draws parallels between the life support systems of spacecraft and our own planet, illustrating the critical importance of environmental stewardship. With her unique vantage points from space and deep below the sea, she sheds light on the environmental challenges we face and the innovative technologies helping us to understand the roles we can play to help protect our home planet.

In this episode you'll discover:

• The vital role environmental intelligence from space plays in daily life, from weather forecasting to agricultural planning. 

• How satellites have transformed from mere storm spotters to advanced observers, capable of intricate environmental assessments. 

• The importance of understanding and maintaining the life support systems of our 'spaceship' Earth, paralleling those in spacecraft. 

• Dr. Sullivan’s perspective on the potential environmental impact of rocket launches and the increasing frequency of space travel. 

• The need for continuous innovation and research to advance our knowledge of Earth and space environments. 

• Insights into fostering a new generation of scientists, engineers, and explorers to lead future environmental intelligence efforts.

Quote:

"The only thing we actually do all by ourselves is have the start of a good idea. Everything beyond that requires connecting that idea with other people." 

- Dr. Kathy Sullivan

Episode Links:

Check out Kathy’s website

Listen to over 100 episodes of Kathy’s Podcast ‘Kathy Sullivan Explores…’ Now part of the Inter Astra Podcast Network!

Follow Kathy on LinkedIn

NASA

NOAA

Credits:

Production by CxS Partners LTD

Executive Producer: Toby Goodman

Audio & Sound Design: Lee Turner

Artwork: Ryan Field

Join the #1 community for equitable access to the business of space:

https://interastra.space/

Dear Explorer,

On June 10, 2021, I launched the Kathy Sullivan Explores podcast. Many of us were under some form of a lockdown back then, and the podcast has helped me connect in ways that were previously impossible to imagine. Through our journey together, we’ve explored science, art, space, and memorable moments in my life all while speaking to brilliant guests. It has truly been an incredible privilege to share stories, insights, and inspiring conversations with you all.

In this episode, I want to express my deepest gratitude to you all for joining me on this remarkable journey of exploration via podcast. I also outline the different episode categories you can continue exploring on the podcast website and explain how you can stay connected and be the first to get updates on my future projects and endeavors.

“This farewell doesn’t have to be the end of our journey together. Continue on, Explorer, learning and sharing in the spirit of curiosity, adventure, and discovery.” - Kathy Sullivan

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

●     Charlie Bolden’s pathway to space and other remarkable episodes in the “Space” category

●     Conversations with creatives and how they forged artistic careers

●     Exploring the sea and other oceanic gems from Helen Scales, Tim McDonald, Victor Viscovo, and others

●     Career and leadership insights from Glen Maroney and Yvette McGee Brown

●     Conversations on exploring the world with Elizabeth McCormick, Jeffrey Kingsley, and Alastair Humphreys

●     Memorable moments from my life—from wearing a baked potato to presenting an Oscar to George Lucas from space

Our Favorite Quotes:

●     “From business leaders, writers, artists, fellow explorers, scientists, divers, and astronauts, their wisdom and experiences have left an indelible mark on our collective exploration.” - Kathy Sullivan

●     “Astronauts stand on the shoulders of many hundreds of other space professionals.” - Kathy Sullivan

Explore the podcast by theme:

●     Space

●     Creativity

●     Sea

●     Memorable Moments

●     Career and Leadership

●     Places

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are--spaceship not required.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Visit my website at kathysullivanexplores.com to sign up for seven astronaut tips to improving your life on earth and be the first to discover future episodes and learn about more exciting adventures ahead!

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

Spotify I Stitcher I Apple Podcasts I iHeart Radio I TuneIn I Google I Amazon Music.

Jane Alexander is an actress, author, and former Chairperson of the National Endowment of the Arts. In 1969, Jane received a Tony Award for her performance as Eleanor Bachman in the Broadway production of The Great White Hope. Jane received her first Emmy nomination for her role as Eleanor Roosevelt in Eleanor and Franklin. Over her career, she has received two Primetime Emmy Awards—as well as nominations for eight Tony Awards, four Academy Awards, and three Golden Globe Awards—and was inducted into the American Theater Hall of Fame in 1994. Today, Jane is involved in conservation efforts and has served on the boards of the Wildlife Conservation Society, the National Audubon Society, and Project Greenhope, among others. She is the author of Wild Things, Wild Places and Command Performance.

Today, you’ll hear Jane discuss how she grew up loving the beauty of the land while living in Massachusetts. She shares how watching a ballet performance for the first time sparked her love for theater and the performing arts. She outlines her process for inhabiting a character or a role and describes how she studied her role as Eleanor Roosevelt in Eleanor and Franklin. Jane also highlights what it’s like to be an understudy, details her experience serving as the chairperson of the National Endowment of the Arts, and offers advice to young people about pursuing their passion.

“The whole business of exploration—which caught me as a child in the outside world, exploring the sunken garden—transitioned to the exploration of the mind and the human body in acting.” - Jane Alexander

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

●     Jane’s background and early years in Massachusetts

●     How Jane’s parents reacted to her pursuit of theater as a career

●     Her studies in mathematics and computer programming

●     Her time at the University of Edinburgh and performances as Ophelia in Hamlet and as Nora in The Plough and the Stars

●     What it was like to hang out with Dudley Moore and John Gleeson as university students

●     Jane’s experience as an understudy and what stand-ins do when they’re not performing

●     Her first leading roles and focus on the classics

●     Jane’s process for inhabiting a role or character

●     Why Jane declined to be part of The Actors Studio

●     How Jane played Eleanor Roosevelt in Eleanor and Franklin

●     Handling negative receptions of performances

●     Jane’s service as the chairperson of the National Endowment of the Arts

●     Today’s public support for the arts and Jane’s work in conservation

Our Favorite Quotes:

●     “Art is part of everybody’s persona and privilege.” - Jane Alexander

●     “We are put on this Earth to witness and experience all the joy that we can give to each other—that includes the things that grow and live.” - Jane Alexander

Connect with Jane Alexander:

●     Jane Alexander Website

●     Book: Command Performance: An Actress In The Theater Of Politics

●     Book: Wild Things, Wild Places: Adventurous Tales of Wildlife and Conservation on Planet Earth

●     Jane Alexander on Twitter

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are--spaceship not required.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Visit my website at kathysullivanexplores.com to sign up for seven astronaut tips to improving your life on earth and be the first to discover future episodes and learn about more exciting adventures ahead!

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

Spotify I Stitcher I Apple Podcasts I iHeart Radio I TuneIn I Google I Amazon Music.

Today, you’ll hear Jim describe his life as a participatory adventurer and journalist. He recounts his adventurous, geeky childhood building his own radios and antenna and why he switched his major from Physics to English while studying at the University of Maryland. He explains why he decided to return to journalism after a career in the advertising industry. He discusses his ventures to the peaks of Mount Kilimanjaro and Everest and his journey to the North Pole. You’ll also learn about the common characteristics among the successful and great people he has interviewed and gain insight from his life lessons.

“Journalism is about truth and advertising is like a pyramid—you take a little point and pile layers and layers on it until you get an obfuscation of truth. In journalism, you narrow it to the point, which is truth.” - Jim Clash

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

●     Jim’s background, fascinating childhood, and life in Japan

●     His stint in advertising and being a drummer for a rock band

●     Uncovering truth and how Jim realized that journalism was his life’s calling

●     The Rat Experiment, climbing the Matterhorn and Kilimanjaro, and Jim’s passion for mountain climbing

●     The Hillary Step traffic jam on Mount Everest

●     Skiing to the South Pole and other adventures in Jim’s life as a participatory adventurer and writer

●     How Jim procures his adventure gigs

●     The common characteristics of extraordinary people

●     Understanding the difference between real and perceived risk

●     Resisting peer pressure and other life lessons

Resources Mentioned:

●     Book: Seven Summits by Dick Bass, Frank Wells, and Rick Ridgeway

Our Favorite Quotes:

●     “Extraordinary people understand that there’s a difference between real and perceived risk.” - Jim Clash

●     “If you think differently, don’t go along with the crowd. Don’t always bow to peer pressure—do what you think is right. - Jim Clash

Connect with Jim Clash:

●     Jim Clash on LinkedIn

●     Jim Clash on Instagram

●     Jim Clash on YouTube

●     Jim Clash on Twitter

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are--spaceship not required.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Visit my website at kathysullivanexplores.com to sign up for seven astronaut tips to improving your life on earth and be the first to discover future episodes and learn about more exciting adventures ahead!

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

Spotify I Stitcher I Apple Podcasts I iHeart Radio I TuneIn I Google I Amazon Music.

Today, you’ll hear Linda reveal her life's remarkable twists and turns through stints working in medicine, education, journalism, and freelance writing. She describes how a family history writing project and a chance meeting during an outing with her book club moved her to become a novelist. She explains what makes Columbus, Ohio a unique place to be in. You’ll also hear about the ultimate value of reading and writing and why Linda was compelled to write her most recent book about the first Jewish Miss America, Bess Myerson.

“Inhabit the character. Imagine what they would think, feel, and do in a scene—how they would relate to other circumstances. Walk in their shoes. That becomes the inventiveness on the page of fiction, but then it’s grounded in all of that authentic, true history underneath it.” - Linda Kass

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

●     The young Linda Kass and her life growing up in central Ohio

●     Linda’s time at Eastmoor High School and how it led her to become a journalist

●     Her work as a physical therapist while studying journalism in graduate school

●     The genesis of Linda’s life as a writer, teacher, and freelancer

●     What brought Linda back to Columbus after living and working in Detroit

●     How Columbus has changed since the late 80s

●     The creative writing project that began Linda’s career as a historical novelist

●     What creative nonfiction is and how it helped Linda tell her parents’ stories

●     Poland and modern-day Ukraine in the context of World War II

●     How a Catholic family helped Linda’s mother and her family during World War II

●     The research and writing process involved in creating Tasa’s Song

●     The art of inhabiting a character while writing

●     What led Linda to write her book on Bessy Myerson

●     The value of reading and writing

Resources Mentioned:

●     Book: The Bright Forever: A Novel by Lee Martin

Our Favorite Quotes:

●     “Read, because when you enjoy that experience you want to read more. When you read, you learn more, and when you learn you can be an empathetic human being that understands yourself and the world better.” - Linda Kass

●     “To tell a real human story is more treatful and effective than coming up with just a fact-by-fact biography.” - Linda Kass

Connect with Linda Kass:

●     Linda Kass Website

●     Gramercy Books

●     Book: Bessie

●     Gramercy Books on Instagram

●     Gramercy Books on Facebook

●     Gramercy Books on Twitter

●     Linda Kass on Instagram

●     Linda Kass on Facebook

●     Linda Kass on Twitter

●     Email: Linda@lindakass.com

●     Email: gramercyinfo@gramercybooksbexley.com

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are--spaceship not required.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Visit my website at kathysullivanexplores.com to sign up for seven astronaut tips to improving your life on earth and be the first to discover future episodes and learn about more exciting adventures ahead!

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John Dabiri is a MacArthur Fellow and Centennial Chair Professor at the California Institute of Technology. John’s research focuses on unsteady fluid mechanics and flow physics, with particular emphasis on topics relevant to biology, energy, and the environment. While serving as a Professor of Aeronautics and Bioengineering at Caltech from 2005 to 2015, John was also the Director of the Center for Bioinspired Wind Energy, Chair of the Faculty, and Dean of Students. From 2015 to 2019, he served as a Professor of Civil and Environmental Engineering and Mechanical Engineering at Stanford University. He graduated summa cum laude from Princeton University in 2001 with a Bachelor of Science in Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering and received his Master of Science in Aeronautics from Caltech, where he also earned his Ph.D. in Bioengineering with a minor in Aeronautics. In addition to his work at Caltech, John serves on President Biden's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology, among other advisory boards.

Today, you’ll hear John and I explore what nature can teach us about engineering systems, heart health, and optimizing wind farms. He describes his life growing up in Toledo, how a summer internship introduced him to the world of jellyfish, and how studying jellyfish quickly morphed into the focus of his life’s work. He recounts stories from his stint as a technical consultant for Nope (2022) and shares his thoughts on the sitcom, The Big Bang Theory, and its portrayal of academic life at Caltech. You’ll also gain insight into solving the diversity problem in physics and engineering and why tapping the curiosity of young minds can inspire more students to pursue STEM.

“Curiosity is a unique lens by which we can explore the world around us, and the outcomes from that would be the technologies that could revolutionize climate, space, and medicine.” - John Dabiri

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

●     John’s background and family history

●     How John’s parents navigated their identity and race in America

●     Carrying forward Nigerian traditions

●     John’s high school experience and why he chose Mechanical Engineering for his college path

●     How he transitioned from an undergraduate degree in Mechanical engineering to a doctoral in Bioengineering with a minor in Aerodynamics

●     How John wound up studying jellyfish after pursuing an undergraduate degree in Mechanical Engineering

●     Why mentors play an important role in a PhD student’s life

●     What jellyfish can teach us about submarines, heart health, and wind farms

●     What it’s like to receive the prestigious MacArthur Fellowship award

●     Why Dr. Jellyfish can’t swim

●     The Big Bang Theory’s portrayal of academic life at Caltech

●     Working with Jordan Peele for the 2022 movie, Nope

●     Solving the diversity problem in physics and engineering

●     How we can inspire more young people to join STEM

Our Favorite Quotes:

●     “The application of tech is a nice motivation, but we can tap into the curiosity of a five-year-old to draw them into science, even if there’s no immediate application.” - John Dabiri

●     “I fell in love with taking the same mindset I used in taking apart video games and cars into understanding how biological systems work—how these very simple bags of water in a jellyfish can swim through the ocean.” - John Dabiri

Connect with John Dabiri:

●     Dabiri Lab

●     John Dabiri on LinkedIn

●     Email: jodabiri@caltech.edu

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are--spaceship not required.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Visit my website at kathysullivanexplores.com to sign up for seven astronaut tips to improving your life on earth and be the first to discover future episodes and learn about more exciting adventures ahead!

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You’ve probably heard or read something about the “new space age” unfolding around us. While this new era of space exploration is raising important questions—like who sets the rules and who owns what—it’s also inspiring grand visions of the future. I don’t have a crystal ball or some super secret source of insider intelligence, but it’s clear that two grand visions are strongly influencing a lot of the enterprises involved in the new space age: one of preserving humanity and the world, and one of escaping it all.

In this episode, I explore two of the leading visions emerging at the dawn of the new space age. You’ll hear about Jeff Bezos’ purpose for Blue Origin and his plan to build space stations where people can live and work. I share Elon Musk’s mission to colonize Mars and discuss what “lifeboat syndrome” is. You’ll also learn how the work of philanthropists started aviation and spaceflight and gain insight into the role of ordinary people like you and me in the future of the new space age.

“Where it all goes from here will be up to people like you and me and the kids and grandkids of our lives. They will inherit the lessons and building blocks from these initial lessons and have the opportunity to write an exciting new chapter in spaceflight and the future of humanity and our planet.” - Kathy Sullivan

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

●     The dawn of the new space age

●     Jeff Bezos and Blue Origin’s vision for the future of outer space

●     Elon Musk and his plans to colonize Mars

●     The lifeboat syndrome

●     How philanthropy drove the inception of aviation and spaceflight

Resources Mentioned:

●     Book: The High Frontier: Human Colonies In Space by Gerard K. O'Neill

Our Favorite Quotes:

●     “Stephen Hawking famously once said that humanity will not endure another thousand years unless it becomes a multi-planet species.” - Kathy Sullivan

●     “It was the vision and private capital of philanthropists like Samuel Langley and Robert Goddard and the people they could draw to their cause that allowed everyone to envision what aviation and spaceflight could become.” - Kathy Sullivan

Related Episode:

●     108 | The New Wild West

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are--spaceship not required.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Visit my website at kathysullivanexplores.com to sign up for seven astronaut tips to improving your life on earth and be the first to discover future episodes and learn about more exciting adventures ahead!

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

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Christopher A. Scholin is the President and CEO of the Monterey Bay Aquarium Research Institute (MBARI) and has been a driving force behind groundbreaking research since 2009. He started his professional journey as a research assistant professor at the University of South Carolina at Columbia. Driven by a passion for merging molecular biology and ecology, Chris joined the esteemed Massachusetts Institute of Technology – Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution (MIT/WHOI) Joint Program in Biological Oceanography. In 2021, he was honored with the Lockheed Martin Award for Ocean Science and Engineering from the Marine Technology Society. Chris holds a Bachelor of Arts degree in Biology with Highest Honors from the University of California, Santa Barbara and a Master of Business Administration degree in Molecular Biology and Immunology from Duke University. Chris continues to engage in research projects and maintains an impressive scientific portfolio.

Today, you’ll hear Chris and I discuss his childhood fascination with the ocean and how it led him to pursue a career in oceanography. He explains how he accidentally became the CEO of MBARI and delves into his contributions to the development of advanced oceanic technology. He describes his early experiences with scuba diving, his interest in laboratory science and technology, and how he combined these interests to pursue a career in oceanography. He recounts his unconventional path into oceanography and discusses his exposure to molecular biology and biotech and how he saw these fields as a way to combine his passion for oceanography and technology. You’ll also learn about the challenges of working in ocean science and the importance of taking risks and being willing to make mistakes.

"Sometimes you gotta follow your heart. If it's something you wanna do, give it a try." - Chris Scholin

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

●     Chris’s childhood fascination with the ocean

●     Learning to scuba dive in St. Louis, Michigan

●     How a librarian changed the course of Chris’s career

●     How Chris learned to follow his heart

●     Applying molecular biology and biotech to oceanography

●     What algae blooms can teach us

●     How to differentiate between similar-looking organisms

●     The legacy of David Packard on MBARI

●     The upside of taking risks

●     How mistakes can lead to important discoveries

●     The challenges of overseeing senior scientists

Our Favorite Quotes:

●     “Only about 30% of the sea floor of the entire earth has been mapped in any detail.” - Chris Scholin

●     “The tide of popular opinion about whether it was even, even feasible was really against me. I just had to stand my ground and keep trying my best and proving it could work.” - Chris Scholin

Connect with Chris Scholin:

●     Chris Sholin Website

●     Chris Scholin on LinkedIn

●     MBARI on LinkedIn

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are--spaceship not required.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Visit my website at kathysullivanexplores.com to sign up for seven astronaut tips to improving your life on earth and be the first to discover future episodes and learn about more exciting adventures ahead!

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

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Katy Psenicka is the Chief Choreographer and Chief Operations Officer of Shadowbox Live, America’s largest resident ensemble theater company based in Columbus, Ohio. Since joining Shadowbox Live in 1994, Katy has made choreography the anchor of her professional career, cultivating over 600 character-driven performing art pieces that tell stories through contemporary dance. A versatile performer herself, Katy has also been featured in several lead and supporting roles. Her most recent work includes the conceptualization and choreography of Madness and Lust and Broken Whispers, both of which won The Columbus Dispatch’s Best Show of 2016 award. Katy earned her Bachelor of Arts degree in Communication Management from The University of Dayton.

Today, you’ll hear Katy outline her creative processes for choreographing dances and creating shows. She describes what she was like as a child and explains how being situationally aware and energetic shaped her path toward becoming an artist. You’ll learn about how, between 4th and 9th grade, she put on a show in her family’s garage every summer. She also shares her ideas on storytelling and offers her advice to young, budding artists who are unsure of their journey.

“Don’t keep your light inside—let it shine. Let yourself have the freedom to share all your amazing gifts to the world. The world needs you, your skill, and your gifts.” - Katy Psenicka

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

●     Katy’s background and childhood in Cleveland, Ohio

●     How Katy created and held shows in her family’s garage as a child

●     Her high school experience and how her teachers inspired her

●     How studying Communication at The University of Dayton gave Katy a glimpse into her life path

●     The process of choreographing a dance and the interplay of music and motions

●     How Katy and the Shadowbox Live team produced a show based on the story of Bonnie and Clyde

●     Katy’s “moments” worksheet and show ideas currently simmering in her mind

●     Current and future Shadowbox Live shows

Our Favorite Quotes:

●     “Whatever it is you’re good at is applicable to every single thing you do in life. You have to put a filter on your lens and take what you know and apply it.” - Katy Psenicka

●     “The road will reveal itself to you. You don’t need to stress about where it’s going. Just start working.” - Katy Psenicka

Connect with Katy Psenicka:

●     Shadowbox Live

●     Shadowbox Live on LinkedIn

●     Shadowbox Live on Instagram

●     Shadowbox Live on Facebook

●     Shadowbox Live on TikTok

●     Katy Psenicka on LinkedIn

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are--spaceship not required.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Visit my website at kathysullivanexplores.com to sign up for seven astronaut tips to improving your life on earth and be the first to discover future episodes and learn about more exciting adventures ahead!

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

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During his 30-year-long career at NASA, Charlie has flown over 16,000 flight hours in over 100 different types of aircraft, chased Space Shuttles returning from orbit, trained every astronaut who has piloted and landed a Space Shuttle and ferried numerous Space Shuttles across the United States using a modified Boeing 747 Shuttle Carrier Aircraft.

Charlie joins me today to describe how he fell in love with flying and aviation in his early teens and shares how he became a pilot after studying Aerospace Engineering at the Air Force Academy. We talk about his path to becoming a NASA test pilot, and he describes how he became involved in music and theater production later in life and how writing Specific Impulse opened his unexpected artistic side. Charlie also advises making mistakes in one’s career and shares his thoughts on following a vision and pursuing seemingly unrelated career paths.

“There is no box; you define what the boundaries are.” - Charlie Justiz

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

●     Charlie’s childhood from Havana to Miami

●     Where Charlie’s early love for flying and aviation came from

●     The many Cuban revolutions

●     Charlie’s experience learning about Spanish literature in high school

●     Charlie’s road to the Air Force Academy and how he survived his freshman year

●     How Charlie became an Air Force pilot

●     Celestial navigation in the space age

●     Flying exotic airplanes at NASA and training to ferry Space Shuttles with the 747

●     Why the 747 is a pilot’s dream

●     Charlie’s work as a risk & safety consultant

●     How Charlie became involved in music and theater production

●     What it means to be a theater producer

●     Charlie’s thoughts on taking seemingly unrelated career paths

●     Charlie’s next adventure in life

Our Favorite Quotes:

●     “You may be wrong, and that’s okay. I’ve failed a dozen times in my career, trying to do stuff that was wrong, but it only made me smarter on the things that I did next.” - Charlie Justiz

●     “All knowledge is valuable and important.” - Charlie Justiz

Connect with Charlie Justiz:

●     Charlie Justiz on LinkedIn

●     Book: Specific Impulse

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are--spaceship not required.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Visit my website at kathysullivanexplores.com to sign up for seven astronaut tips to improving your life on earth and be the first to discover future episodes and learn about more exciting adventures ahead!

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

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Today, you’ll hear about Glen’s journey from being a college dropout and bus tour operator to being the CEO of a shipbuilding company and owner of 22 luxury vessels. He explains how he turned around a small hotel in Warrnambool without a formal education in the tourism industry. He describes the beauty of Warrnambool and how the region brought out the traveler in him. He discusses the beginnings of Scenic and his forays into river cruising and shipbuilding. You’ll also hear about his forecast for the expedition cruising market and gain insight into the complexity and wonder of ships and shipbuilding.

“We climbed up a steep glacier that went up from sea level to over 2,000 meters with ice caps that went as far as the eye could see. There’s no way, unless you’re an explorer, that you’re going to see that in any cruise ship.” - Glen Moroney

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

●     Glen Moroney’s youth and how he became a shipbuilder and the admiral of 22 river cruisers

●     Why Glen disliked his time at university and eventually dropped out

●     His first dive into business and entrepreneurship

●     The first time Glen got bitten by the travel bug

●     How Glen started selling tours without a formal education in the tourism industry

●     The Free Independent Traveler Public Tours and the beginnings of Scenic

●     How Glen became involved with river cruising

●     Taking “no” for an answer and taking risks during uncertain times

●     Glen’s baptism of fire into shipbuilding

●     Listening to feedback and how Glen brings the vision of a ship to life

●     Scenic’s audience model and expert expedition team

●     Scenic’s submersibles and helicopter flights in Reykjavik

●     The future of expedition cruising

●     How the pandemic has changed people’s perception of cruising

●     The complexity and wonder of ships and shipbuilding

Our Favorite Quotes:

●     “When the ship sails the first time, it can get quite emotional. When you get a ship like this into service, you get a huge sense of relief. There’s some joy there, but the overwhelming feeling is relief.” - Glen Moroney

●     “You look at an office building and you’d think it’s a complex build, but it’s nothing compared to a ship.” - Glen Moroney

Connect with Glen Moroney:

●     Scenic Luxury Cruises & Tours

●     Scenic Luxury Cruises & Tours on LinkedIn

●     Scenic Luxury Cruises & Tours on Instagram

●     Scenic Luxury Cruises & Tours on Facebook

●     Scenic Luxury Cruises & Tours on Twitter

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are--spaceship not required.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Visit my website at kathysullivanexplores.com to sign up for seven astronaut tips to improving your life on earth and be the first to discover future episodes and learn about more exciting adventures ahead!

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

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When was the last time you watched people at a sporting event, ceremony, or concert—having the experience of a lifetime, yet mainly holding their phones or cameras up to film it all? It’s as if capturing pictures and videos is more valuable or important than the experience itself, and so they live everything through their camera screens. While certain moments in our lives prompt us to reach for our phones or cameras to capture that unfolding event and immortalize it into a visual memory, doing so comes with a cost. It takes us out of the actual moments—out of fully living the experience.

In this episode, you’ll hear about the value of fully immersing yourself in the present. I share what I learned from reading The Inner Game of Tennis and from playing a detective video game. I also reflect on returning to the curiosities of our eight-year-old selves and how our lives might be enriched more by being fully in the moment.

“Be here, now. Put your phone down and take all your surroundings in through every one of your senses. How richer will your life be if you can resist the screen and be fully in the moment?” - Kathy Sullivan

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

●     Living life through screens

●     Why performing theater companies ask the audience not to film or record shows

●     Going back to our eight-year-old selves

●     The challenge to explore with a sense of play

●     The sense of safety and security in reminiscing bygone days

●     How I learned to see without judgment by playing a video game

Resources Mentioned:

●     Book: The Inner Game of Tennis: The Classic Guide to the Mental Side of Peak Performance by W. Timothy Gallwey

Our Favorite Quotes:

●     “Explore with a sense of play—of freedom. Be your eight-year-old self again, shut off the self-talk, and just be. Just do.” - Kathy Sullivan

●     “Be here, now—not in the past, not in the future, but genuinely interested in and absorbing where you are now, who you’re with, and taking it all in without an opinion.” - Kathy Sullivan

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are--spaceship not required.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Visit my website at kathysullivanexplores.com to sign up for seven astronaut tips to improving your life on earth and be the first to discover future episodes and learn about more exciting adventures ahead!

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

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Susan Rainwater is the former Chief of the EVA, Robotics, and Crew Systems Operations Division at NASA and a linchpin in the Hubble Space Telescope repair mission. After graduating from Georgia Institute of Technology with a Bachelor of Industrial Engineering degree, Sue served at NASA’s Marshall Space Flight Center in the late 1980s. She then came to the Johnson Space Center in Houston to work with the Hubble Space Telescope under the Mission Operations Directorate prior to the STS-31 deployment mission. Sue later played such a pivotal role in the first Hubble servicing mission that they brought two ladders into mission control when the time came to hang the crew plaque at the end of the mission. It was the first, and possibly only, time that the two co-leaders of the spacewalking team hung the plaque together—one of the highest honors in NASA flight control.

Today, you’ll hear Sue describe her memories of being a bookish kid from Michigan studying in the United Kingdom and the culture shock she experienced upon returning to the United States. She explains how hands-on building projects from her father and her move to the South to study became the first steps in her journey to NASA. Sue also highlights the Herculean effort around Hubble’s first servicing mission and describes how visits to Home Depot contributed to the building and repairing success of the Hubble Space Telescope.

“We had the greatest jobs. We got to work with brilliant people and brilliant minds. We were challenged every day, and every day was different.” - Sue Rainwater

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

●     Sue’s family background and early childhood in Michigan

●     Her life in high school and path to Georgia Tech

●     How her father influenced her interest in engineering

●     Sue’s first role and responsibility at NASA

●     The NASA Marshall Space Flight Center and what it was known for

●     The Neutral Buoyancy Laboratory and Sue’s experience in water tank simulators

●     What it was like to completely imagine a tool that did not exist before

●     Sue’s first visits to the Hubble Space Telescope and cranking its solar arrays

●     Her experience working as a flight controller at the Johnson Space Center’s mission control

●     What it takes to calm the engineer sitting at a console in mission control

●     Sue’s best memories from her time in Houston and life after NASA

Our Favorite Quotes:

●     “Start with something you’re familiar with, adapt it, then modify it.” - Sue Rainwater

●     “When you go out there and see the real vehicle, with all the real electrical cables and multi-layer insulation in place, you get a full appreciation of it and think that this is even more complex than you realize.” - Sue Rainwater

Connect with Sue Rainwater:

●     Sue Rainwater on LinkedIn

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are--spaceship not required.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Visit my website at kathysullivanexplores.com to sign up for seven astronaut tips to improving your life on earth and be the first to discover future episodes and learn about more exciting adventures ahead!

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

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“Awesome” is used so often these days—at least in the US—that it has almost lost its meaning. It seems that it hardly has a bigger impact than saying “Oh, that’s nice.” But, for astronauts, the truly awesome experience of seeing the Earth from space with our own eyes is transformative—an experience that catalyzes the profound shift in the way we think about ourselves, our lives, and our home planet Earth. In 1987, Frank White coined the term “overview effect” to describe this experience. But there’s something with the “overview” label that never sat well with me and I couldn’t point out why—until an article titled The ‘Small Self’ Effect and the research it referred to caught my attention.

In this episode, you’ll learn about the small self effect and how the experience of looking at Earth from orbit profoundly transforms astronauts. I outline the history of Frank White’s overview effect. I describe how awe triggered the small self in me while I was in space. I also discuss how psychologists define awe and underscore how being awestruck can elicit feelings of belonging and hope that are critical to forming the cooperation and collaboration needed to form and sustain social groups—from families and communities to countries and humankind.

“‘Feeling small, blissfully overwhelmed, more connected to others, and filled with the desire to do good towards others are the common themes in every astronaut’s account of their experience of looking at the Earth from orbit.” - Kathy Sullivan

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

●     What “awesome” means to astronauts

●     Frank White’s Overview Effect

●     What “awe” means to psychologists

●     The small self effect and how awe may have a vital social function

Resources Mentioned:

●     The Atlantic | The ‘Small Self’ Effect by Shannon Stirone

●     Awe, the Small Self, and Prosocial Behavior

Our Favorite Quotes:

●     “The vast panorama out my window triggered a feeling of awe unlike any I have ever known. That’s what shrunk my sense of self and heightened my awareness about our collective identity and fate and made me want to use my experience for good.” - Kathy Sullivan

●     “Be filled with that blissful awe. Shift with the small self, understand our shared fate, and care more deeply about each other.” - Kathy Sullivan

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are--spaceship not required.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Visit my website at kathysullivanexplores.com to sign up for seven astronaut tips to improving your life on earth and be the first to discover future episodes and learn about more exciting adventures ahead!

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

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Margot Lee Shetterly is a non-fiction writer. Her book, Hidden Figures: The American Dream and the Untold Story of the Black Women Who Helped Win the Space Race, tells the story of African-American women mathematicians who helped provide NASA with the raw computing power it needed to dominate the heavens. After a career in investment banking and media, Margot moved to Mexico with her husband and founded Inside Mexico, an English-language magazine, while writing Hidden Figures. In addition to her work as an author, Margot is the founder of The Human Computer Project, an endeavor dedicated to recovering the names and accomplishments of all of the women who worked as computers, mathematicians, scientists and engineers at NACA and NASA from the 1930s through the 1980s.

Today, you’ll hear about Margot’s journey in writing Hidden Figures. She describes her childhood in Hampton, Virginia, growing up surrounded by engineers and scientists and shares her experience witnessing the 9/11 attacks while living in New York City. She explains how she happened upon the book idea and how her awareness of the women in Hidden Figures—Katherine Johnson, Dorothy Vaughan, and Mary Jackson—came to the fore. She discusses the importance of having an objective view from the outside and how living in Mexico allowed her to write Hidden Figures. You’ll also gain insight on Margot’s experiences writing Hidden Figures—from interviewing Katherine Johnson to getting the book published—and hear her advice for young people at the early stages of their careers.

“The advances that allow us to get on an airplane—without thinking that it’ll take off, fly, and land safely—happened because these women and their colleagues were doing the numbers for decades.” - Margot Lee Shetterly

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

   •   Margot’s background and life growing up in Hampton, Virginia

   •   Her interest in business at a young age and path to investment banking

   •   A brief history of NASA

   •   Margot’s interest in business at a young age and her path to investment banking

   •   Her life in New York and her experience in foreign exchange trading, Meryll Lynch, and start-ups

   •   Her adventures founding a magazine in Mexico with her husband

   •   How living in Mexico allowed Margot the space to write Hidden Figures

   •   What inspired the idea behind Hidden Figures and how Margot began writing the story

   •   How interviewing mathematician Katherine Johnson led Margot to Dorothy Vaughan, Mary Jackson, and the other Black computers at NASA’s West Area

   •   How long it took Margot to finish writing Hidden Figures

   •   The two kinds of writers and why Margot is a combination of both

   •   Historical accuracy of the film Hidden Figures and how similar it is to Margot’s book

   •   The process of creating a book proposal and why it’s similar to forming a business plan

   •   What Margot wanted to show through her book Hidden Figures

   •   Margot’s favorite travel destinations and travel bucket list

   •   Her current book project and the joys of writing Hidden Figures

Resources Mentioned:

   •   NASA Johnson Space Center Oral History Project

   •   NASA History Division - Oral History

   •   Book: They Made America: From the Steam Engine to the Search Engine: Two Centuries of Innovators by Harold Evans

Our Favorite Quotes:

   •   “The thing about a book proposal is that it’s a business plan. You have a book idea, find a publisher to take it and sell it to them, explain why people will read it, and have a sample of the product.” - Margot Lee Shetterly

   •   “Make failure your friend, especially when you’re young and ambitious. There’s a stigma that’s still attached to failure, but it’s a good teacher; you get some of your best lessons from it.” - Margot Lee Shetterly

Connect with Margot Lee Shetterly:

   •   Margot Lee Shetterly Website

   •   Book: Hidden Figures: The American Dream and the Untold Story of the Black Women Mathematicians Who Helped Win the Space Race

   •   Margot Lee Shetterly on LinkedIn

   •   Margot Lee Shetterly on Twitter

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I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are--spaceship not required.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Visit my website at kathysullivanexplores.com to sign up for seven astronaut tips to improving your life on earth and be the first to discover future episodes and learn about more exciting adventures ahead!

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There’s a ton of content in the media about what some people are calling the “new space age”: the era in which space is becoming more democratized—and more commercialized. At a minimum, media coverage about this new space age has been about Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, and space tourism. While it’s clearly an exciting time to be in the business of space or to start a career in the space sector, peeling back all that fancy, sizzly coverage reveals a ton of unresolved questions you may not be hearing about unless you’re a true space geek. There are so many issues around it that we might as well just call the new space age the “New Wild West.”

In this episode, I explore a few of the many issues surrounding the new space age. I explain what mega constellations are and how artificial satellites are impacting the work of grand-based astronomers. I also share my hopes for the future and underscore why we all need to come together as we enter this new space age.

“My biggest hopes are that the countries and the companies will consider more than just short-term financial rewards; that they give some thought to not just what can be gained by their efforts, but also what might be lost if they don’t take care.” - Kathy Sullivan

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

   •   The number of active satellites orbiting the Earth

   •   The lack of orbital traffic management schemes and space treaties

   •   Issues around mining the moon and asteroids

   •   NASA’s Artemis Accords

   •   My hopes for the future of the new space age

Our Favorite Quotes:

   •   “There’s a lot of money and effort pouring into these new space possibilities, but everyone’s in an ‘act now, think later’ mode, as is often true when a bright new prospect is glimpsed.” - Kathy Sullivan

   •   “My highest hope is that the sentiment that was written on the Apollo 11 module will be fulfilled in this new era—that plaque read: ‘We came in peace for all mankind.’” - Kathy Sullivan

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I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are--spaceship not required.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Visit my website at kathysullivanexplores.com to sign up for seven astronaut tips to improving your life on earth and be the first to discover future episodes and learn about more exciting adventures ahead!

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Victor joins me today to share his experience flying to space onboard New Shepard. He describes what it was like to go beyond Mach 3 and explains why it’s important not to focus on the interiors of the rocket capsule upon reaching space. He discusses his childhood dream to become an astronaut and shares his thoughts on finding one’s life path. Victor also highlights the value of being a good person and offers advice to young people dreaming of flying to space.

“When people ask what’s the most beautiful thing I’ve ever seen, I have to admit, looking down from space, that it’s the curvature of the Earth with the atmosphere. Nothing beats down that experience.” - Victor Vescovo

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

●     What made Victor want to go to space

●     The importance of personal connection and being a good person

●     How his sense of space adventure has evolved in his adult years

●     The Corn Ranch Launch Site at Van Horn, Texas

●     The training and psychological-medical screening involved to become part of the NS-21 mission

●     How Blue Origin tries to craft camaraderie and diversity

●     The days leading to the flight of New Shepard

●     Why Blue Origin was strict on bringing items aboard New Shepard

●     Weight, propulsion, gravity, and safety

●     The overview effect and how the NS-21 mission impacted Victor’s life

●     The descent of New Shepard

Our Favorite Quotes:

●     “I thought it would be like going really high up on a plane, but no, this was materially different. The Earth was below you, and there was a thin layer of atmosphere that you could see; there’s a yellow sun on a black background. It told you you’re in space. And floating.” - Victor Vescovo

●     “We all find our own path; I eventually found my way to space, though it took longer than expected. You just have to hold on to those dreams and, hopefully, someday circumstances will provide the opportunity.” - Victor Vescovo

Related Content:

●     Kathy Sullivan Explores… Mountain Climbing, Deep Ocean Diving & The Purpose of Life with Victor Vescovo

Connect with Victor Vescovo:

●     Caladan Oceanic

●     Caladan Oceanic on YouTube

●     Caladan Oceanic on Instagram

●     Caladan Oceanic on Facebook

●     Victor Vescovo on LinkedIn

●     Victor Vescovo on Twitter

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I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are--spaceship not required.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Visit my website at kathysullivanexplores.com to sign up for seven astronaut tips to improving your life on earth and be the first to discover future episodes and learn about more exciting adventures ahead!

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In this episode, I discuss Janteloven and what I learned about the social culture of Norway. I describe how I dreamed about living overseas as a kid and what attracted me to Norway. I differentiate Norwegian and American culture and discuss the social codes prevalent in Scandinavian cultures. I also highlight the importance of getting yourself out of your own bubble and underscore what I love most about traveling.

“We all live in bubbles of one sort or another, usually without being aware of them. You have to get out of them to get to know and understand new people, places, and cultures.” - Kathy Sullivan

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

●     Reading Snow Treasure and other things that inspired me to live in Norway

●     My experience joining the University of Bergen’s immersive summer program in Oslo

●     A stark difference between the American and Norwegian cultures

●     The frontier mentality and America’s individualist culture

●     The Janteloven and how Norwegians preserve social harmony and stability

●     The Lagom and the value of ensuring everyone’s basic needs are met

Resources Mentioned:

●     Book: Snow Treasure by Marie McSwigan

Our Favorite Quotes:

●     “What I love most about traveling is exactly that—trying to merge as much as I can into the new place, to feel what it’s like and understand where people are coming from. It’s like putting on a costume and inhabiting a new character.” - Kathy Sullivan

●     “The Janteloven is decidedly not about knocking down the tall poppy, but boils down to the simple point that if we are to live together in harmony, we need to consider each other’s feelings.” - Kathy Sullivan

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I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are--spaceship not required.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Visit my website at kathysullivanexplores.com to sign up for seven astronaut tips to improving your life on earth and be the first to discover future episodes and learn about more exciting adventures ahead!

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

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Ché joins me today to share the history behind his name and describe his life before moving to Houston, Texas with his family. He explains how witnessing his father’s mission to service the Hubble Space Telescope opened his eyes to the true meaning of service. He discusses his transition to the private sector after retiring from the US Marine Corps and highlights The Bolden Group’s mission to push the boundaries of the space industry. He also outlines what it would take to create diversity, equity, and inclusion in the space industry and offers advice to young people starting their careers.

“Create opportunities for disadvantaged and underrepresented communities to get an equal place at the table. We won’t realize the fullest potential of space unless we get more people in the discussion.” - Ché Bolden

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

• The young Ché Bolden and what it was like to be a part of the Bolden family
• “Flashbulb” memories and the beginnings of Ché’s life as an explorer
• How the mission of his father, Charles Bolden Jr., to service the Hubble Space Telescope taught Ché the meaning of service
• Ché’s role models and what inspired him to attend the US Naval Academy and become an aviator
• His challenges and struggles at the US Naval Academy
• Why the presence of other people is essential to one’s success
• Ché’s foray into the private sector and his work with The Bolden Group
• The Bolden Group’s mission to empower servant-leaders and foster diversity, equity, and inclusion in the space industry
• Pushing the boundaries of traditional space
• The difference between a meritocracy and a “mirror-tocracy”

Resources Mentioned:

• Why diversity should not be the exception | Ché Bolden | TEDxPearlStreet

Our Favorite Quotes:

• “If things are going bad for you, go and find someone else having a worse day you’re having and be there for them.” - Ché Bolden
• “Other people are important to your success. Contrary to what some prolific mega-billionaires want to tell people, nobody does anything by themselves.” - Ché Bolden

Related Content:

• Charlie Bolden on Pathways to Space
• The Life of a Visionary with Charlie Bolden Part 1
• The Birth of the New Space Age with Charlie Bolden Part 2
• Two Funny Astronauts with Mike Massimino and Garrett Reisman

Connect with Ché Bolden:

• The Bolden Group
• ONE
• Ario
• The Bolden Group on LinkedIn
• The Bolden Group on Instagram
• The Bolden Group on YouTube
• The Bolden Group on Twitter
• Ario on LinkedIn
• Ario on Twitter
• ONE on LinkedIn
• Ché Bolden on LinkedIn

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I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are--spaceship not required.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Visit my website at kathysullivanexplores.com to sign up for seven astronaut tips to improving your life on earth and be the first to discover future episodes and learn about more exciting adventures ahead!

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

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Ché joins me today to share the history behind his name and describe his life before moving to Houston, Texas with his family. He explains how witnessing his father’s mission to service the Hubble Space Telescope opened his eyes to the true meaning of service. He discusses his transition to the private sector after retiring from the US Marine Corps and highlights The Bolden Group’s mission to push the boundaries of the space industry. He also outlines what it would take to create diversity, equity, and inclusion in the space industry and offers advice to young people starting their careers.

“Create opportunities for disadvantaged and underrepresented communities to get an equal place at the table. We won’t realize the fullest potential of space unless we get more people in the discussion.” - Ché Bolden

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

●     The young Ché Bolden and what it was like to be a part of the Bolden family

●     “Flashbulb” memories and the beginnings of Ché’s life as an explorer

●     How the mission of his father, Charles Bolden Jr., to service the Hubble Space Telescope taught Ché the meaning of service

●     Ché’s role models and what inspired him to attend the US Naval Academy and become an aviator

●     His challenges and struggles at the US Naval Academy

●     Why the presence of other people is essential to one’s success

●     Ché’s foray into the private sector and his work with The Bolden Group

●     The Bolden Group’s mission to empower servant-leaders and foster diversity, equity, and inclusion in the space industry

●     Pushing the boundaries of traditional space

●     The difference between a meritocracy and a “mirror-tocracy”

Resources Mentioned:

●     Why diversity should not be the exception | Ché Bolden | TEDxPearlStreet

Our Favorite Quotes:

●     “If things are going bad for you, go and find someone else having a worse day you’re having and be there for them.” - Ché Bolden

●     “Other people are important to your success. Contrary to what some prolific mega-billionaires want to tell people, nobody does anything by themselves.” - Ché Bolden

Related Content:

●     Charlie Bolden on Pathways to Space

●     The Life of a Visionary with Charlie Bolden Part 1

●     The Birth of the New Space Age with Charlie Bolden Part 2

●     Two Funny Astronauts with Mike Massimino and Garrett Reisman

Connect with Ché Bolden:

●     The Bolden Group

●     Sapient.ONE

●     Ario

●     The Bolden Group on LinkedIn

●     The Bolden Group on Instagram

●     The Bolden Group on YouTube

●     The Bolden Group on Twitter

●     Ario on LinkedIn

●     Ario on Twitter

●     Sapient.ONE on LinkedIn

●     Ché Bolden on LinkedIn

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I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are--spaceship not required.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Visit my website at kathysullivanexplores.com to sign up for seven astronaut tips to improving your life on earth and be the first to discover future episodes and learn about more exciting adventures ahead!

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

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In this episode, I share two key takeaways from reading Ten Lessons from the Road. I also discuss how novels can teach us lessons about life, elaborate on Alastair's “Doorstep Mile” concept, and describe the mindset that helped me navigate some of the most challenging moments of my life.

“Don’t fear regret or embarrassment; instead, fear not giving your all to something worthwhile.” - Kathy Sullivan

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

●     Lessons from Ten Lessons from the Road

●     How novels can teach us about life through their characters

●     The “Doorstep Mile” and how to overcome daunting challenges

Resources Mentioned:

●     Book: Ten Lessons from the Road by Alastair Humphreys

Our Favorite Quotes:

●     “It’s easy to be daunted by the enormity of the challenge: climbing that mountain, writing that novel, or asking somebody out for a date can just seem huge.” - Kathy Sullivan

●     “Alastair Humphreys’ Ten Lessons from the Road is for everyone, not just adventurers, and all sorts of experiences teach you these. In fact, you can learn them through reading, especially literature. Many novels reveal and explore themes through the lives and trajectories of their characters.” - Kathy Sullivan

Related Content:

●     Not Just Travel Tips with Alastair Humphreys

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I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are--spaceship not required.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Visit my website at kathysullivanexplores.com to sign up for seven astronaut tips to improving your life on earth and be the first to discover future episodes and learn about more exciting adventures ahead!

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

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Megan joins me today to share her vision of the future of human spaceflight and exploration. She describes her life growing up, what sparked her interest in aviation and flight, and how the Space Shuttle Challenger accident solidified her passion for space flight at a young age. She discusses her time studying Aerospace Engineering at UCLA. She explains how knowing that someone believed in her gave her the confidence to cope with her transition from high school to university life. She describes the best part about being an astronaut and why the astronaut office values collaboration over competition. Megan also shares her thoughts on commercial space flight and underscores what young people can expect from the Artemis program. 

“The astronauts we’re sending to the moon, whatever their background is—whether they’re test pilots or biologists—they’ll do lunar geology. What’s great about this job is you’re always learning new things and tackling new challenges.” - Megan McArthur Behnken

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

• Megan’s background, family, and life growing up
• Her time pursuing an undergraduate degree in Aerospace Engineering at UCLA
• My experience changing my college major from languages to STEM
• How joining a human-powered submarine race made Megan fall in love with the ocean
• The importance of doing what you love and doing your best with it
• Why having a combination of skills is valuable in becoming a NASA astronaut
• A day in the life of a NASA astronaut
• The culture of the NASA astronaut office and how it has evolved over the years
• Megan’s mission to service the Hubble Space Telescope and how it’s different from her SpaceX flight
• The “pumpkin” suit and Megan’s thoughts on commercial, untrained civilian space flight
• Promoting science literacy to the general population
• Megan’s forecast for the future of the space frontier

Our Favorite Quotes:

• “At NASA, we now select for collaboration and teamwork, because you can’t hire a lone wolf out by themselves to do a space station mission. You know you’re in it together — it’s not a solo sport.” - Megan McArthur Behnken
• “You have to choose the thing you love doing and do that thing as well as you can do it. If you choose something you don’t love, you’re not going to excel at it, and NASA is never going to choose you if you’re not excelling at whatever it is you’re doing.” - Megan McArthur Behnken

Connect with Megan McArthur Behnken:

• Megan McArthur Behnken on LinkedIn
• Megan McArthur Behnken on Twitter
• Megan McArthur Behnken on Instagram

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I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are--spaceship not required.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Visit my website at kathysullivanexplores.com to sign up for seven astronaut tips to improving your life on earth and be the first to discover future episodes and learn about more exciting adventures ahead!

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

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You have, no doubt, heard this adage. I have lived the truth of it many, many times in my life as an explorer. One of the strangest of such experiences happened in 1974. It all started with me visiting Iceland to attend a conference in Reykjavík and ended with me hunting for a pair of sturdy hiking boots I couldn’t really afford on my shoestring budget as a starving Ph.D. student.

In this episode, I discuss how I learned a lesson about good equipment while on a trip in Heimaey, Iceland. I describe how I became a participant in an invitation-only conference in Reykjavík. I also outline the Heimaey eruption of 1973, how the entire population of the island was evacuated, and how the lava flow was prevented from destroying Heimaey’s harbor. 

“The in-depth stories [about the Heimaey eruption] from National Geographic were candy for this budding geologist. Now that I was off to Iceland, I was excited to climb on the planet’s newest volcano.” - Kathy Sullivan

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

• The Heimaey eruption of January 1973 and subsequent evacuation efforts
• A day trekking the Heimaey island and a word of warning from our guides
• My very first pair of field boots
• Learning about the importance of good equipment

Our Favorite Quotes:

• “I lived on very meager rations and the friendliness of locals—but I did survive and learned a serious lesson about good equipment.” - Kathy Sullivan
• “The lava flowed north and east, destroying some 400 homes on the eastern side of town and threatening to seal off the harbor entrance to the north. This would be a disaster for a fishing-centered economy.” - Kathy Sullivan

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are--spaceship not required.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Visit my website at kathysullivanexplores.com to sign up for seven astronaut tips to improving your life on earth and be the first to discover future episodes and learn about more exciting adventures ahead!

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

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Alastair joins me today to discuss how we can live adventurous lives—even in our everyday world. He describes how his early love for reading inspired him to be an adventurer and why he declined an opportunity for a more traditional, stable career as a high school teacher. He explains “micro-adventuring” and the importance of directly experiencing nature in any shape, form, or capacity. Alastair also highlights the difference between exploration and adventure, describes how curiosity links them and underscores what adventure can teach us about life.

“Exploration is adventure plus purpose and discovery. There’s something extra to it, beyond just the excitement, desire, and curiosity to go somewhere new and have a fantastic time.” - ~Alastair Humphreys

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

• Alastair’s background and childhood in the countryside
• His university education and year of teacher training
• Alastair’s bike adventure around the world and how he made it work
• Why Alastair is thankful for the earlier stages of blogging and the internet
• Microadventures and the importance of bringing more adventure into our everyday life
• The impact of seeing and experiencing nature
• The culture of “assured” experience and why it’s an impediment to adventure
• Guidelines for adventurers and overcoming the “doorstep” mile
• A nugget of exploration wisdom from T.S. Elliot
• Alastair’s current adventure in book-writing

Resources Mentioned:

• Book: Living Dangerously: The Autobiography of Ranulph Fiennes by Ranulph Fiennes

Our Favorite Quotes:

• “Paying attention, being astonished, and telling about it—to steal from Mary Oliver—is a good way to be.” - Alastair Humphreys
• “Adults are so boring. Children are curious and playful and adventurous in a way that us adults could do a little more learning from.” - Alastair Humphreys
• “The bicycle is the perfect exploration vehicle: it’s cheap, it’s quick, but not too fast, and, above all, you’re free—you can literally go anywhere on the planet.” - Alastair Humphreys

Connect with Alastair Humphreys:

• Alastair Humphreys Website
• Book: The Doorstep Mile: Live More Adventurously Every Day
• Book: Microadventures: Local Discoveries for Great Escapes
• Book: The Boy Who Biked the World: The Complete Collection
• Alastair Humphreys on Instagram
• Alastair Humphreys on Facebook
• Alastair Humphreys on Twitter
• Alastair Humphreys on YouTube

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I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are--spaceship not required.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Visit my website at kathysullivanexplores.com to sign up for seven astronaut tips to improving your life on earth and be the first to discover future episodes and learn about more exciting adventures ahead!

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

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In this episode, I explore the conception of the idea that became the Kathy Sullivan Explores podcast. You’ll hear how my desire to write a book became a podcast idea and how my colleagues and friends—including rock radio Hall of Fame inductee Dayna Steele—helped me get started. I also underscore the joy of exploring with brilliant people via genuine conversations and share what I’ve learned so far in 100 podcast conversations.

“Everybody steps out of things in life. We step out of relationships, jobs, somebody’s shadow, or ruts. Other times, we step onto something like on a stage—and those are significant and fraught transitions.” - Kathy Sullivan

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

• Stepping out and how the Kathy Sullivan Explores podcast came about
• How Dayna Steele and other friends and colleagues supported the idea of creating a podcast
• The challenge of taking the first step to start a podcast
• Jim Tooney and the art of “going before you really know”
• The “Doorstep Mile” and my motives behind starting the Kathy Sullivan Explores podcast
• The common challenges we all face in life

Our Favorite Quotes:

• “Like in all other things, the hardest part is starting: to sit down and write that list of people you’d love to talk to; to jot those emails and get in touch; and to sit down and jot down ideas for the solo episodes.” - Kathy Sullivan
• “This kind of conversation—about their early life, when they first sensed the pathway to where they are now, and how they got there—is far more interesting to me than the usual cocktail party chatter.” - Kathy Sullivan

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Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are--spaceship not required.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Visit my website at kathysullivanexplores.com to sign up for seven astronaut tips to improve your life on earth and be the first to discover future episodes and learn about more exciting adventures!

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

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Helen joins me today to discuss her passion for ocean exploration and the inspiration behind her books. She shares how being in love with the ocean shaped her hobbies and career interests. You’ll hear about the dives she did in various tropical countries and the marine conservation programs she and her team helped fund along the way. She explains her concern about marine wildlife welfare and why people should take marine conservation seriously. You’ll also gain insight into Helen’s thoughts on deep diving and the books she has planned for the future.

"What I would love to see is more people celebrating the joyous wonder of the ocean and what lives there—not how we can conquer it or make money out of it." - Helen Scales

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

• Where Helen's passion for sea exploration started
• Collecting shells, painting them, and other ocean-related hobbies
• Marine-related careers that run in Helen's family
• The rise of green awareness in the '90s
• How to earn the Duke of Edinburgh's Award
• Helen's personal rating of her writing skills
• Doing dives in Belize and other countries, finishing her Ph.D., and helping kids along the way
• Exploring tropical countries and helping them refine their tourism programs
• Helen's first encounter with a seahorse
• Helen's thoughts on the lack of marine conservation awareness
• Why Helen looks forward to blackwater diving
• Deep diving in the abyss and overcoming claustrophobia
• Helen answers lightning-round questions
• The one thing Helen wants people to know about the ocean
• The books Helen intends to write in the future

Connect with Helen Scales:

• Helen Scales Official Website
• Book: The Brilliant Abyss: Exploring the Majestic Hidden Life of the Deep Ocean and the Looming Threat That Imperils It
• Book: The Great Barrier Reef
• Helen Scales on Instagram
• Helen Scales on Twitter

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are--spaceship not required.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Visit my website at kathysullivanexplores.com to sign up for seven astronaut tips to improving your life on earth and be the first to discover future episodes and learn about more exciting adventures ahead!

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

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In this episode, I describe how I became the first woman to walk in space and how bias in medical reporting almost prevented all women astronauts from spacewalking. You’ll learn what an altitude chamber test is and why airlines always tell you to put your mask on before helping others. I describe why spacewalking is high-risk and outline some conditions that make individuals more susceptible to the bends. You’ll also gain insight on handling problems—even if they seem personal—with a level head and why leaders should focus on the root cause of problems.

“Peel away the layers, think carefully about what’s causing what, and get to the root of the issue. You’ll often find that a lot of the mess and noise falls away when you tackle the root problem.” - Kathy Sullivan

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

• The rarity of the space flying experience
• Why spacewalks are only done when necessary
• The early days of women flying in space
• The first problem I encountered when I was given the spacewalk assignment
• How to handle problems when they seem personal
• What a pre-breathe is and how spacewalkers are trained to fix emergencies
• What it means to keep the main thing “the main thing”

Our Favorite Quotes:

• “Figuring out what the main thing is amid a swirling cloud of detail and loud voices can be difficult, but it’s important for leaders.” - Kathy Sullivan
• “Keep yourself, and your team focused. Fight the right battle and solve the root of the problem.” - Kathy Sullivan

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are--spaceship not required.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Visit my website at kathysullivanexplores.com to sign up for seven astronaut tips to improving your life on earth and be the first to discover future episodes and learn about more exciting adventures ahead!

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

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Robert joins me today to discuss his role in training NASA astronauts. He describes his life growing up in San Antonio, Texas, and what informed his early interest in flight, airplanes, gliders, and kites. He recounts his experience working in a college library while pursuing a degree in Aerospace Engineering. He also explains his transition from engineering to mission operations, highlights why being an astronaut is not the only cool job in NASA and offers advice to young people interested in joining the space industry.

“I really did feel part of the teams because I got to work directly with the spacewalking crew members and their training. And not just the shuttle contingencies, but specifically what they would be doing.” - Robert Trevino

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

• Robert’s background and life growing up
• What led him to choose engineering drafting at the vocational tech college
• The role of an engineering draftsman in planning or building an airplane
• His job working at an aircraft company after high school
• Why Robert decided to go to college and pursue a degree in Aeronautical Engineering
• What he learned from joining the work-study program and working in a college library
• Robert’s time at the University of Texas and his transition to the US Navy
• Joining NASA at the early stages of the shuttle program
• His work on the STS-1 and how he ended up training astronauts
• How Robert transitioned from engineering to missions operation
• Robert’s work on NASA’s Artemis program

Our Favorite Quotes:

• “I learned from working at the library to pay attention to detail and be careful with certain things. I learned to do a good job, and I didn’t try to rush.” - Robert Trevino
• “I encourage young people to apply to NASA and commercial companies, which are growing rapidly. Get an internship and find out what you really like to do.” - Robert Trevino

Connect with Robert Trevino:

• Robert Trevino on LinkedIn

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are--spaceship not required.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Visit my website at kathysullivanexplores.com to sign up for seven astronaut tips to improve your life on earth and be the first to discover future episodes and learn about more exciting adventures!

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

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Whenever we look at typical maps like the ones on Google or in atlases, we assume that islands are simply land masses separated by some body of water. But, when you consider their geological underpinnings, you find that not all islands are the same. Islands like Madagascar and England, for example, are part of the continents they’re adjacent to. Some islands, like Surtsey Island, located south of Iceland, are formed by something awe-inspiring: volcanic eruption.

In this episode, you’ll learn about Surtsey Island and why it fascinates biologists worldwide. I differentiate oceanic islands from continental islands and explore why Surtsey Island is so unique. I outline the process of oceanic island formation. I share my childhood experience watching the November 1963 volcanic eruption that formed Surtsey Island in the news. You’ll also hear about my visit to Surtsey and how the island has changed since the 1963 eruption.

“Surtsey Island was a perfect, unique, and extraordinary experiment—an opportunity to watch, for the first time in the scientific era, a brand new oceanic island being formed right before our very eyes.” - Kathy Sullivan

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

• The wonders of the Dogger Bank and the characteristics of continental islands
• How oceanic islands begin as volcanoes on the seafloor
• The formation of the Hawaii island chain in the Pacific
• What makes Surtsey unique as an oceanic island
• How the tilt meter assists in predicting volcanic eruptions
• The Lōʻihi seamount (Kamaʻehuakanaloa)
• What happens when magma meets seawater
• A fisherman out at sea and the Surtsey volcanic eruption of November 1963
• A race between ash, lava, and erosion
• Why the government of Iceland designated Surtsey Island as a scientific preserve
• My venture to Surtsey Island
• How Surtsey Island has changed since November 1963

Our Favorite Quotes:

• “Surtsey was the first time in the modern scientific era that one of these seafloor volcanoes built up enough to break the ocean surface, become a real island, and give scientists the chance to watch this process of biological succession.” - Kathy Sullivan
• “We have a chance to watch the North Atlantic version of what happened in Hawaii—as the all-brown volcanoes became full of life—but only if people do not go there and distort the natural process.” - Kathy Sullivan

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are--spaceship not required.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Visit my website at kathysullivanexplores.com to sign up for seven astronaut tips to improve your life on earth and be the first to discover future episodes and learn about more exciting adventures!

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

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Elizabeth joins me today to share her passion for travel and helping people see the world. You’ll hear about her childhood and how she and her family were not exempt from racism despite having privilege. She discusses her career in retail and explains how being a corporate traveler gave her a unique perspective that continues to inform her work at UNIGLOBE Travel Designers. She reveals how she remained steadfast and led the UNIGLOBE Travel Designers team through the pandemic. You’ll also learn the value of selflessness, vulnerability, and authenticity.

“The pandemic elevated the fact that people, instead of buying items, are now looking at experiences like multigenerational travel and creating memories that will last a lifetime.” - Elizabeth Blount McCormick

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

●     Growing up in Bexley and experiencing racism in the sixth grade

●     Elizabeth’s time at The Wellington School in Columbus, Ohio

●     Navigating the world as a young, Black woman and the importance of being in a group where you can be yourself

●     Why Elizabeth decided to attend Spelman College

●     Why Elizabeth recommends going to historically black colleges and universities or HBCUs

●     Her career vision after studying at Spelman College and her first foray into retail

●     Elizabeth’s experience working with a male chauvinist

●     Leaving retail, returning to Columbus, and becoming the President of UNIGLOBE Travel Designers

●     The pandemic’s impact on the travel and hospitality industry

●     How Elizabeth started growing UNIGLOBE Travel Designers’ business when she took over the company

●     One of Elizabeth’s favorite stories from the leisure travels she has organized for clients

●     The demographic of UNIGLOBE Travel Designers’ leisure and corporate travel clients

●     Inter-racial relations in business and what it’s like to be a woman- and minority-owned business in Ohio

●     How Elizabeth led her team at UNIGLOBE Travel Designers through the pandemic

●     Elizabeth’s travel bucket list and advice to young people starting their career

Our Favorite Quotes:

●     “In this business and life, you need to be able to adjust. If you’ve no flexibility, it will be difficult to succeed.” - Elizabeth Blount McCormick

●     “When you’re hiring people, you want to ensure you’re hiring someone you would want to have a meal with.” - Elizabeth Blount McCormick

Connect with Elizabeth Blount McCormick:

●     UNIGLOBE Travel Designers

●     UNIGLOBE Travel Designers on LinkedIn

●     UNIGLOBE Travel Designers on Instagram

●     UNIGLOBE Travel Designers on Facebook

●     UNIGLOBE Travel Designers on YouTube

●     Elizabeth Blount McCormick on LinkedIn

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are--spaceship not required.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Visit my website at kathysullivanexplores.com to sign up for seven astronaut tips to improving your life on earth and be the first to discover future episodes and learn about more exciting adventures ahead!

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

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In today’s episode, you’ll hear John’s story about leadership styles and gain insight into his life on research ships as an oceanographer. I describe how multiple studies typically share a research ship and how each group of researchers aboard plan and negotiate the ship’s cruise. I discuss the difference between the combative/antagonistic and collaborative/appreciative styles of leadership. You’ll also learn why competition is not the only way to achieve greatness in a team and how to create the sweet spot for optimal learning and performance.

“A radically different style of leadership could produce results as good as, if not better than, the combative style of leadership.” - Kathy Sullivan

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

●     The life of an oceanographer and why research ships are essentially timeshare facilities

●     My friend John and his experience with cruise planning on research ships

●     How John’s perspective on leadership changed

●     Why the competitive style of leadership doesn’t bring the best out of everyone

●     The sweet spot between challenge and pressure

Our Favorite Quotes:

●     “‘Just scared enough’ is a sweet spot for learning and performance, with enough stimulus and stress to get all our mental circuits firing, on high alert, ready to engage and respond.” - Kathy Sullivan

●     “Competition is one way to get the best out of people, but it is far from the only way. It is often—and sometimes—exactly the wrong way if you want the best your people can offer.” - Kathy Sullivan

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●     061 | The Life of a Visionary with Charlie Bolden Part 1

●     062 | The Birth of the New Space Age with Charlie Bolden Part 2

●     054 | Let\'s Talk Leadership

●     053 | The Honor of Measuring Time with Omega CEO, Raynald Aeschlimann (Part 2)

●     052 | The Cooperative Model of Business with Omega CEO, Raynald Aeschlimann (Part 1)

●     036 | Kathy Sullivan Explores...Well Oiled Machinery and Teams

●     017 | Life\'s Fabulous Lessons with Dayna Steele

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are--spaceship not required.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Visit my website at kathysullivanexplores.com to sign up for seven astronaut tips to improving your life on earth and be the first to discover future episodes and learn about more exciting adventures ahead!

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

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Today, Bill joins me to share his story. We talk about the young Bill Nye and the people and events that acted as his greatest influences. He talks about his experience doing stand up and his life during the war in Vietnam. He discusses the different categories of science and the importance of its advancement. He discusses the role of Congress in this advancement and offers his solutions for political problems. He discusses the exploration of Europa and fields a series of rapid-fire questions.

“By the time somebody’s eight years old, his or her ability to reason is pretty good. It’s the life experience that you’re missing.”

- Bill Nye

“Bravery is when you’ve actually assessed the danger.”

- Bill Nye

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

●     Bill Nye and the sundial on Mars

●     Bill’s experience as an engineer

●     The role of dancing in Bill’s life

●     Political discussion

●     The importance of the advancement of science

Mentioned Resources:

●     The Planetary Society

●     The Science Rules Podcast

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are--spaceship not required.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Visit my website at kathysullivanexplores.com to sign up for seven astronaut tips to improving your life on earth, and be the first to discover future episodes and learn about more exciting adventures ahead!

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

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In this episode, you’ll hear about the talk at the 1987 Air Force dine-in that led to my dress getting accessorized with a roll of potato, sour cream, butter, and bacon. I share Ray’s version of the scene and how he became the recipient of a “Couth Award.” I also offer some public speaking advice from the night and highlight the value of being intentional, connecting with your audience, and not taking yourself seriously.

“If you want to have an impact, don’t just say your lines—adapt your message to connect with the audience where they are, in the moment. Whatever you do, don’t take yourself too seriously.” - Kathy Sullivan

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

●     What a “dining-in” means in the military

●     Why I chose to move away from my standard talk and ad-libbed in a formal Air Force dine-in

●     Food tricks you can do in space and how to start a food fight with a gravity-bound audience

●     The night I wore a baked potato—from Ray’s perspective

●     The first recipient of the brand-new Couth Award

Our Favorite Quotes:

●     “If you plan to speak in public, it’s crucial to understand your audience and read the room. Be intentional about whether it’s best to match that or upend expectations.” - Kathy Sullivan

●     “If you’d like to use this podcast as inspiration to start a food fight, I’d be honored. You have my blessing.” - Kathy Sullivan

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are--spaceship not required.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Visit my website at kathysullivanexplores.com to sign up for seven astronaut tips to improving your life on earth and be the first to discover future episodes and learn about more exciting adventures ahead!

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

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Sian joins me today to share her journey from teaching geology at a community college and being an analog astronaut to becoming a spacecraft pilot for SpaceX’s Inspiration4. You’ll hear about her early life and how her interests as a child shaped her path to being a pilot and astronaut. She explains how working as a geology professor in a community college led her to become a finalist in NASA’s 2009 astronaut selection program. She also shares her vision for the future of commercial spaceflight and underscores what it means to live life through an explorer’s lens.

“I didn’t need to discover something new for humanity—as long as I was discovering something new for myself, I was an explorer.” - Sian Proctor

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

●     What it was like for Sian to watch SpaceX’s launch of Crew-5

●     Sian’s upbringing and early life in Guam

●     Why Neil Armstrong stopped signing autographs

●     Where Sian’s early passion for flight and aviation came from

●     Her experience studying Environmental Science at Edinboro University and why she decided to go to graduate school

●     Sian’s journey to Arizona State University for graduate school

●     What an “analog” astronaut is and Sian’s path to becoming one

●     What meals on Mars would look like

●     Becoming a space artist and poet and the story behind Sian’s selection into SpaceX’s Inspiration4

●     How Sian trained for Inspiration4 and her responsibilities as a mission pilot

●     The future of private spaceflight and what will drive commercial space exploration

Our Favorite Quotes:

●     “Women working together—to talk about exploration and how you can do amazing things right here on earth—make a difference for themselves, the people around them, and the planet.”- Sian Proctor

●     “In my entire life, I felt like I was chasing space. It was no formal plan, but more like exploring here and there until, one day, I flipped one rock and finally found it.” - Sian Proctor

Connect with Sian Proctor:

●     Dr. Sian Proctor Website

●     Email: meals4mars@gmail.com

●     Dr. Sian Proctor on Instagram

●     Dr. Sian Proctor on Facebook

●     Dr. Sian Proctor on Twitter

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are--spaceship not required.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Visit my website at kathysullivanexplores.com to sign up for seven astronaut tips to improving your life on earth and be the first to discover future episodes and learn about more exciting adventures ahead!

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

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In this episode, you’ll hear about my voyage in the High Arctic with Lindblad-National Geographic. I describe our voyage through the far north of Norway and the volcanic Jan Mayen island. I discuss the spikiest summits I’ve ever seen and explain how frost-shattering weather rocks into jaggy mountains. I describe my fellow passengers on the expedition—including bestselling thriller novelist Lisa Gardner—and their fascinating, diverse backgrounds. You’ll also learn how I conducted an experiment inspired by this podcast’s theme—Spaceship not required—and the characteristics that make an explorer.

“Spaceship not required—nor a certain job title, nor a certain percentage of your working hours; if you’re curious, going, testing, and learning, you’re legitimately an explorer.” - Kathy Sullivan

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

●     Sailing among witches’ hats: our voyage through the far north of Norway

●     The awe-inspiring Jan Mayen island

●     Our time at the Northeast Greenland National Park

●     The spikiest summits and craziest mountainside I’ve ever seen

●     Iceland—a true marine geologist’s paradise

●     The site of the first democratic parliament in the world

●     My fellow passengers, their diverse backgrounds, and my mini experiment

●     “Doing” versus “being,” and the things that make an explorer

Our Favorite Quotes:

●     “The peaks are the result of frost shattering the rock into tiny little bits, so you get absolutely jagged 6,000-foot-tall mountains right above.” - Kathy Sullivan

●     “I think you’re exploring if you’re tuning in to this podcast, even a little bit, and I hope you keep exploring.” - Kathy Sullivan

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are--spaceship not required.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Visit my website at kathysullivanexplores.com to sign up for seven astronaut tips to improving your life on earth and be the first to discover future episodes and learn about more exciting adventures ahead!

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

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Jim joins me today to describe the two-year sailing adventure he had with his family and the unique joys of self-determined travel. You’ll hear how the adventure brought his family closer together and changed his children. He recounts his experience diving in the Gulf of Mexico in an Alvin submersible and the wonderful sights he has seen underwater. You’ll also learn the value of boredom and how to tackle the challenge of “going before you know.”

“Your whole life revolves around setting your anchor well when you live in a sailboat, and we learned the hard way that it wasn’t an easy thing to do.” - Jim Toomey

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

●     The event that led to Jim and his family going on their two-year sailing adventure

●     Lining up and anchoring boats and the difference between day sailing and extended cruising

●     How the two-year sailing adventure changed Jim’s children and brought the family together

●     Being bored and being forced to be resourceful

●     Weathering weather changes and storms over the Mediterranean Sea

●     The value of having a better Plan B

●     Avoiding crises by recognizing—and avoiding—the start of a cascade of problems

●     The bosun’s chair and the value of developing mastery in the real world

●     Jim’s experience diving with an Alvin submersible

●     How flying over the Bahamas inspired Jim to create Sherman’s Lagoon

●     The two ways to fail a procedure

●     The watchkeeping system and Jim’s next adventures

Our Favorite Quotes:

●     “The learning curve in sailing is long and shallow: you can learn the basics in a day, but, like a lot of things, it takes a lifetime to learn the subtleties.” - Jim Toomey

●     “You\'ll always feel like you’re climbing a summit and you’ll never feel like you’re at the top. If you wait until you’re at the top, you will never go—you have to make the decision to make this voyage.” - Jim Toomey

Related Content:

●     075 | Sherman’s Lagoon and the Art of Cartooning with Jim Toomey

●     015 | Kathy Sullivan Explores… Mid-Ocean Ridges and Interesting Deep Sea Creatures with Cindy Van Dover

Connect with Jim Toomey:

●     Jim Toomey Website

●     Sherman’s Lagoon

●     Book: Family Afloat: Two Years Sailing the World with Two Kids and Two Captains

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are--spaceship not required.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Visit my website at kathysullivanexplores.com to sign up for seven astronaut tips to improving your life on earth and be the first to discover future episodes and learn about more exciting adventures ahead!

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

Spotify I Stitcher I Apple Podcasts I iHeart Radio I TuneIn I Google I Amazon Music.

Today, you’ll hear Dave and I discuss his experience with the NASA astronaut selection process and why he thinks he got selected by the board. He shares insight into the growth of private space companies and what they mean for aspiring astronauts. He highlights the value of diplomatic skills and foreign language proficiency in organizations like NASA. You’ll also learn what it takes to become an astronaut in the new space age and receive advice for carving an educational path toward the space industry.

“In my selection process, I think my flying background helped—but it isn’t just about flying; it’s also about having an adventurous spirit and a willingness to be independent and do uncomfortable things.” - Dave Leestma

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

●     Dave’s journey in the 1980 NASA selection pool and what he thinks put him at the top

●     The value of having discipline, independence, and an adventurous spirit in the NASA application process

●     The importance of diversity, equity, and inclusion

●     How the criteria for the NASA selection process has changed

●     Dave’s thoughts on being part of NASA’s astronaut selection board

●     Why diplomacy and foreign language skills are an asset

●     How the growth of private space companies is changing the paradigm in space exploration and science

●     How private space companies might select and recruit talent for their organizations

●     Skills, trades, and talents NASA would look for beyond Artemis

●     Dave’s take on space tourism and his advice to young people who want to join the space industry

Our Favorite Quotes:

●     “If you can be disciplined in the little things like making your bed, you can be disciplined in other things. That leads to a desire to succeed.” - Dave Leestma

●     “Being an astronaut means being uncomfortable with some parts of it.” - Dave Leestma

●     “Astronauts, in general, are jacks of all trades and not necessarily masters of one. You may have a degree in Geology, but you can also do an EVA and all kinds of things.” - Dave Leestma

Related Content:

●     At the Oscars with George Lucas

Connect with Dave Leestma:

●     Dave Leestma on LinkedIn

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are--spaceship not required.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Visit my website at kathysullivanexplores.com to sign up for seven astronaut tips to improving your life on earth and be the first to discover future episodes and learn about more exciting adventures ahead!

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Alan joins me today to discuss how serendipity shaped his life’s path toward marine biology and ocean exploration. He explains how he pioneered the design and construction of deep-sea robots and shares the discoveries he has made along the way. He highlights the difference between adventurism, exploration, and science. He also discusses why society needs to democratize access to scientific experience and underscores what it will take to create a meaningful relationship between the general public and the deep sea.

“EVERYTHING IN THE DEEP SEA—AND MOST OF THE PLANET IS DEEP SEA—IS DRIVEN BY WHAT’S HAPPENING ON THE SURFACE: PHOTOSYNTHESIS, WARMING, CO2 ABSORPTION. EVERYTHING HAS  CONTROL ON WHAT HAPPENS BELOW IT.”

- ALAN JAMIESON

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

●      The young Alan Jamieson: his interests and life as a student

●      What made him study industrial design at university and how it continues to serve him in his career as a marine biologist

●      Alan’s work experience after college and his journey to becoming a mechanical technician for the Oceanlab at the University of Aberdeen

●      Working on his thesis, Autonomous lander technology for biological research at mid-water, abyssal, and hadal depths

●      What encouraged Alan to go deep into marine science and what persuaded him to pursue a Ph.D. in Zoology

●      The hadal zone, where it is, and how deep its depths are

●      Why it’s essential to understand and study the hadal zone

●      How the ocean’s trenches are formed

●      The psychological problem of getting people engaged with the deep-sea

●      How culture and metaphors perpetuate biases about deep-sea exploration

●      Alan’s role in Victor Vescovo’s Five Deeps Expedition

●      Seeing anthropogenic litter at the bottom of the ocean

●      The strangest and most amazing things Alan has seen in the deepest depths of the ocean

●      The difference between adventurism, exploration, and science

●      Why experiencing the deep sea in person matters

●      Science tourism and the value of democratizing science exploration

Our Favorite Quotes:

●      “You say you love the top 50 meters of the ocean because that’s where you scuba dive and fish, but think the deep sea is none of your concern. It actually should be—most of your planet is deep sea.” - Alan Jamieson

●      “If society’s going to develop a relationship with the deep sea on an almost unimaginable scale, it shouldn’t be an elitist endeavor where you can only experience it as a scientist.” - Alan Jamieson

Related Content:

●      Mountain Climbing, Deep Ocean Diving & The Purpose of Life with Victor Vescovo

●      The Ocean’s Deep Regions with Tim MacDonald

Connect with Alan Jamieson:

●      Armatus Oceanic

●      Book: The Hadal Zone: Life in the Deepest Oceans

●      The Deep-Sea Podcast

●      Armatus Oceanic on LinkedIn

●      The Deep-Sea Podcast on Twitter

●      Alan Jamieson on Twitter

●      Email: alan.j.jamieson@uwa.edu.au

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are--spaceship not required.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Visit my website at kathysullivanexplores.com to sign up for seven astronaut tips to improving your life on earth and be the first to discover future episodes and learn about more exciting adventures ahead!

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

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Today, you’ll hear Janet and me discuss her journey to the NASA Astronaut Corps and what the future might hold for the new commercial era of space. She explains why she thinks NASA selected her for the Astronaut Corps and describes the qualities she looked for in a candidate when she became a part of the astronaut selection panel. She highlights the value of curiosity and learning when aiming to become an astronaut. You’ll also learn why learning to follow is as important as learning to lead in NASA and how Sierra Space is making space travel accessible not only to future professional astronauts but also to industry customers and experiential customers.

“I tried to find people who loved adventure, who loved being givers and helpers, who weren’t trying to be in control but could step into leadership when called upon.” - Janet Kavandi

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

●     Qualities NASA looked for from astronaut candidates when Janet applied for the Corps

●     What Janet thinks made her qualified for the NASA Astronaut Corps

●     How NASA’s criteria for astronaut candidates changed when Janet joined the selection panel

●     Why learning to follow is as important as learning to lead in the Astronaut Corps

●     What Sierra Space and other space companies look for in people who man their space vehicles

●     How Sierra Space is collaborating with other companies to make spaceflight accessible to more people

●     How trained professionals and scientists will soon be able to go to space for research and commercial projects

Our Favorite Quotes:

●     “After you do an interview with NASA, you assume you’re not going to make it, because there are lots of immensely qualified, great human beings. When you do get the call, you get into shock.” - Janet Kavandi

●     “You have all these incredibly educated people among NASA candidates, but, even with all those talents, it all comes down to whether you could spend a year in space with them or personally entrust your life to that person.” - Janet Kavandi

Connect with Janet Kavandi:

●     Sierra Space

●     Sierra Space on LinkedIn

●     Sierra Space on Instagram

●     Sierra Space on Facebook

●     Sierra Space on Twitter

●     Janet Kavandi on LinkedIn

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are--spaceship not required.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Visit my website at kathysullivanexplores.com to sign up for seven astronaut tips to improving your life on earth and be the first to discover future episodes and learn about more exciting adventures ahead!

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

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Garrett Reisman is a former NASA astronaut and professor of astronautical engineering at USC’s Viterbi School. Garrett was selected as a mission specialist astronaut in 1998 and was aboard the Space Shuttle Endeavour in 2008, a mission that dropped him off for a 95-day stay aboard the International Space Station. His second mission was aboard Space Shuttle Atlantis in 2010, during which he performed three spacewalks and operated the Space Station Robot Arm as a flight engineer. In 2011, Garrett left NASA and joined SpaceX, serving in multiple roles, including Director of Space Operations. He received his Ph.D. in Mechanical Engineering from the California Institute of Technology.

Together, Mike and Garrett are the creators of 2 Funny Astronauts, a podcast where they explore the bizarre, crazy, and astonishing lives of astronauts.

Mike and Garrett join me today to describe their lives as astronauts. They discuss how they became interested in spaceflight, their educational experiences at MIT and Caltech, and their paths to becoming selected as NASA astronauts. They share their thoughts on NASA’s astronaut selection program and why having interpersonal skills is necessary for an aspiring astronaut. They recount their appearances on TV and their lives after NASA. They also highlight the importance of being surrounded by like-minded people and underscore the value of representation.

“Don’t think they’re looking for somebody who’s not you. If you try to be somebody else, it’s going to come off as artificial and it’s not going to work.” - Garrett Reisman

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

• ● The life of the young Garett Reisman and his journey to becoming an astronaut
• ● How the moon landing got Mike Massimino interested in spaceflight
• ● Their experiences studying at MIT and Caltech and their career path to joining NASA’s space
• program
• ● Mike and Garrett’s secret sauce to passing the NASA astronaut selection program
• ● Mike’s appearance on The Big Bang Theory and Garett’s show with American comedian, Stephen
• Colbert
• ● What being the first Jewish crewmember of the ISS meant for Garrett
• ● Moving beyond being an astronaut, Garrett’s move to SpaceX, and Mike’s life after NASA
• ● What it was like to be a part of the first group of women in space
• ● The value of authenticity and the importance of representation
• ● My journey through foreign languages, STEM, and becoming a NASA astronaut
• ● Why Mike and Garrett created the 2 Funny Astronauts podcast
• Our Favorite Quotes:
• ● “It’s good to be surrounded by like-minded people. It doesn’t seem as crazy, and you get to share information and dreams with each other—that’s what was helpful at MIT.” - Mike Massimino
• ● “Everybody on paper is qualified to become an astronaut—in the end, it’s more like picking people you’d want to go on a camping trip with rather than a job interview.” - Garrett Reisman
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Resources Mentioned:

● 2 Funny Astronauts Podcast

Connect with Mike Massimino:

• ● Mike Massimino Website
• ● Mike Massimino on LinkedIn
• ● Mike Massimino on Instagram
• ● Mike Massimino on Facebook
• ● Mike Massimino on Twitter
• ● Mike Massimino on YouTube

Connect with Garrett Reisman:

• ● Garrett Reisman Website
• ● Garrett Reisman on LinkedIn
• ● Garrett Reisman on Instagram
• ● Garrett Reisman on Facebook
• ● Garrett Reisman on Twitter

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are--spaceship not required.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Visit my website at kathysullivanexplores.com to sign up for seven astronaut tips to improving your life on earth and be the first to discover future episodes and learn about more exciting adventures ahead!

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

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We’ve all felt the sting of rejection in our personal and professional lives. And when we watch it happen on TV—when the cameras show the faces of actors who didn’t get the Oscar or Olympians who didn’t take gold—we sympathize with the grim faces on our screens. We know from our own experiences just how painful those moments can be. After getting rejected, it’s easy to fall into regret and negative, counterfactual thinking. How do you propel yourself forward after getting rejected or failing at something important to you?

In this episode, I discuss rejection and how to handle it. You’ll hear about my application to be an astronaut and why the NASA astronaut selection process is like aiming for gold in the Olympics. I explain why getting invited for an interview with NASA is a big deal even if you don’t make the final cut. You’ll also gain some wisdom from Daniel Pink’s book, The Power of Regret, and learn the importance of having a “Well, at least…” mindset.

“The next time you’ve done everything in your power but don’t get the prize you were aiming for, think of those bronze medalists and let ‘Well, at least…’ propel you forward.” - Kathy Sullivan

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

• Why aiming to be a NASA astronaut is like aiming to be an Olympic athlete
• My application for the NASA astronaut selection in 1977
• Moving from an “If Only…” to a “Well, at least…” mindset
• Dealing with regret and why the bronze medalist is the happiest winner in the Olympics

Resources Mentioned:

• Book: The Power of Regret: How Looking Backward Moves Us Forward by Daniel Pink

Our Favorite Quotes:

• “Many successful astronauts suffered multiple rejections—16, in the case of Clayton Anderson— before finally getting that flight suit.” - Kathy Sullivan
• “Aiming to become an astronaut is like aiming to become an Olympic athlete. Countless people will reach for the dream, but a much smaller number will make it to their national team; a smaller number still will get a medal hung around their neck.” - Kathy Sullivan

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are--spaceship not required.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Visit my website at kathysullivanexplores.com to sign up for seven astronaut tips to improving your life on earth and be the first to discover future episodes and learn about more exciting adventures ahead!

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

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Today, Nancy is the Co-founder of StriveTogether, a national movement that uses collective impact to help more than 14 million children succeed from cradle to career. She is also the Director of The Power of Systems, a project dedicated to transforming public university systems in the United States. She is also the co-author of the books, Creating a New Kind of University, University Leadership in Urban School Renewal, and A Time for Boldness.

Nancy joins me today to describe her vision of universities’ roles in communities and society. You’ll hear about her journey to becoming the administrative leader of three universities across the country and her advocacy for ensuring the academic welfare of students and collegiate athletes. She explains what it means to create a new kind of university and why universities need to collaborate with external social institutions. You’ll also learn about the importance of mentorship and representation and hear Nancy’s advice to young women aspiring to become leaders.

“Universities need to leave behind their isolation and build partnerships with communities and social entities. This is our role—our public good.” - Nancy Zimpher

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

• Nancy Zimpher’s childhood in Ohio
• Her academic path and her journey to joining the faculty of the Ohio State University
• The responsibilities of a university provost
• Nancy’s sense of leadership and how it emerged and grew in her life
• Creating and advocating for an academic enterprise for student-athletes
• Her role in the Knight Commission on Intercollegiate Athletics
• The history of NIL policies for collegiate athletes and where they’re headed
• March Madness and why the NIL rules are a leadership issue like no other
• Joe Burrow’s story and the power of successful professional and collegiate athletes to drive social action
• The crisis of confidence in higher education and the role of universities in the larger social sphere
• How universities drive upward social mobility
• Creating a new kind of university
• Why universities need to focus on cooperating
• The responsibilities of women leaders and Nancy’s advice to women who aspire to become leaders

Our Favorite Quotes:

• “Many of our public social institutions are being questioned in terms of their ability to serve the needs of our society. The wrong thing to do is to be defensive about those critiques.” - Nancy Zimpher
• “Be aware of what your knowledge base is and be an expert in your discipline. Be good at what you do and who you say you are.” - Nancy Zimpher

Connect with Nancy Zimpher:

• Power of Systems
• StriveTogether
• Book: Creating a New Kind of University: Institutionalizing Community-University Engagement
• Book: University Leadership in Urban School Renewal
• Book: A Time for Boldness: A Story of Institutional Change
• StriveTogether on LinkedIn
• StriveTogether on Instagram
• StriveTogether on Facebook
• StriveTogether on Twitter
• Nancy Zimpher on Twitter

Spaceship Not Required 

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are--spaceship not required.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Visit my website at kathysullivanexplores.com to sign up for seven astronaut tips to improving your life on earth and be the first to discover future episodes and learn about more exciting adventures ahead!

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

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In this episode, you’ll hear about the time I convinced the trustees of a science museum that I was the best candidate for the CEO post—even if I didn’t have prior experience in marketing, fundraising, or executive functions. I describe how studying foreign languages before switching to the sciences helped immensely in my graduate oceanography program and throughout my NASA career. You’ll also learn why there are no worthless degrees and why leadership is never a cookie-cutter experience.

“In today’s era of having multiple careers over a lifetime, we’ll have to wrestle with translating what we’ve done before into the skills and abilities needed for what’s next.” - Kathy Sullivan

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

• Getting interviewed for my first job in the private sector after working at NASA and NOAA
• Translating seemingly unrelated job skills and experiences for your next line of work
• What selling NASA to members of congress taught me about rallying support
• Why I don’t believe in the “worthless degree” argument
• How studying foreign languages helped me in my career at NASA and NOAA

Our Favorite Quotes:

• “I had never directly solicited someone for money, but I had needed to sell NASA to skeptical members of congress on many occasions, which taught me to think clearly about the purpose behind the agency’s programs and what that would mean to the congress members, and to lay out a compelling argument to gain their support.” - Kathy Sullivan
• “You might get to stretch the truth to sell your product or make someone write a check, but you’ll get some people killed if you try that in the space biz.” - Kathy Sullivan

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are--spaceship not required.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Visit my website at kathysullivanexplores.com to sign up for seven astronaut tips to improving your life on earth and be the first to discover future episodes and learn about more exciting adventures ahead!

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

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