Effective one-on-one meetings offer a variety of benefits to employees, managers and the overall organization.

Benefits of conducting 1:1 meetings with employees

• Improved Relationships. In the world outside of work, making time for coffee with a friend every weekend improves your relationship because you have time to chat, share stories and learn more about each other. The same benefit occurs when you meet regularly with employees. You get to know them better and set a tone for improved relationships and culture in the workplace.
• Increased Employee Morale. When staff feel their opinions are heard and matter, morale and engagement is usually higher. And when leaders work to address issues discovered in one-on-ones, morale can increase even more.
• Feedback for Better Leadership. One-on-ones also provide feedback for leadership so they can continue to improve how they manage their teams.

What makes a good 1:1?

• A personal check in with the employee. They might want to share about an important life milestone or might be pleased if you ask about their children, spouse or pets.
• A business-facing check in. You also want to find out how the employee is doing with their work and position. Are they happy with their work, what challenges are they facing and what can you do to help them achieve production success?
• Comments and suggestions. Offer time for the employee to bring up comments and suggestions related to the business, even if they aren’t directly related to the person’s own position and goals. They might have seen a process that makes no sense or could be done quicker, and making space for employees at all levels to propose ideas and solutions gives you more information to work with.
• The employee’s future goals. Talk about employee goals, what might be appropriate for them and how they can plan and forge ahead to achieve those goals.
• How you can best support the employee and the team at large. Provide time for the employee to give you feedback as a leader if desired.

Sample Questions for 1:1 meetings

Position Based

• What’s your pie chart of what you are working on? What do you want it to be?
• How do you view yourself in your role?

Career Based

• If you were having the best work day ever in your ideal role, what would your schedule look like?
• Where do you get your job satisfaction from?
• Where have you been most successful in the past?

Long-Term Based

• What are your long-term goals? What skills do you need to achieve them?
• What obstacles will you need to overcome to achieve these goals?

1:1 Meeting Tips for Managers

• Bring a sense of curiosity and openness with you.
• Have a problem-solving attitude — but keep it collaborative. Share suggestions and create a space where people can find solutions together.
• Ask questions instead of telling people what to do.
• Listen more than you talk.
• Leave any blaming attitude out the door (better yet, get rid of that altogether).

1:1 Bad Practices

• Using 1:1 meetings as status update meetings
• Skipping meetings
• Infrequent meetings
• Lacking clarity

Biblical Verses to Remember in 1:1 Meetings

Proverbs 27:17 As one piece of iron sharpens another, so friends keep each other sharp.

Proverbs 11:14 Where there is no guidance, a people falls, but in an abundance of counselors there is safety.

1 Thessalonians 5:11 So encourage each other and build each other up, just as you are already doing.

Chris' Example 1:1 Agenda

1. First 5 minutes - Life catch up
2. What are your wins since last week?
3. What are your top priorities this week?
4. What are your long term goals and how can I help you achieve them?
5. Are there questions or rumors you would like to discuss?
6. What is the status of your last action items?
7. What are your action Items this week?
8. How are your tracking this past week? Any blockers I can help remove?
9. One a scale of 1 - 10, how happy are you with your work-life balance? How can we get closer to 10?
10. If there is one thing I could do differently to help you more, what would it be?

1. Everyone must be treated with dignity and respect!

a. At the most basic level, we dignify people by recognizing their value as human beings who are made in the image of God

b. "Honor all people, love the brotherhood, fear God, and honor the king" (1 Pet. 2:17)

2. High moral standards

a. 1 Cor. 15:33 Do not be deceived: "Bad company ruins good morals."

3. Every day, positive attitudes, behaviors, and interactions!

a. Hope

i. Proverbs 17:22 A joyful heart is good medicine, but a crushed spirit dries up the bones.

b. Faith

i. Joshua 1:9 Have I not commanded you? Be strong and courageous. Do not be frightened, and do not be dismayed, for the Lord your God is with you wherever you go."

4. Take a stand for what is right, not what is convenient.

a. I recently spoke with someone who revealed their greatest struggle with faith, and it may be the same as yours. There is no shame in it, but this person is afraid to address their position on hot-button issues for fear of receiving backlash. The bad thing was that I did not even have to inquire why. I understand how difficult it is. I understand how painful it is to be persecuted. I understand how unjust it is to be overlooked. I am aware of the overwhelming response. I am aware that the adversary appears to be stronger. I am aware of the high costs. We have a duty in Christ to be strong (Ephesians 6:10), to fight (2 Timothy 4:7), to be separate (2 Corinthians 6:17), to be courageous (Joshua 1:9), to suffer (1 Peter 3:17), to be persecuted (2 Timothy 3:12), to be hated (John 15:18). We all have a duty to stand for righteousness and spread the Gospel (Mark 16:15). I know the adversaries are loud and seem great in number. I know they will not come to reason or fight a fair fight. I know that they are boastful and proud in/of their sin. Nevertheless, Christ is with us (Deuteronomy 20:1), and He is greater (Deuteronomy 10:17).

5. Take a stand for yourself

a. God gives strength to his people. He enables them to be courageous through his gift of faith. God proves himself faithful to his promises and enables his people to trust him in everyday life.

6. Be truthful and upright – be faithful to your word.

a. Chuck Swindoll says - This rare breed of man is almost extinct. Whether an executive or an apprentice, a student or a teacher, a blue or white-collar worker, a Christian or a pagan—rare indeed are those who keep their word.

b. When a man . . . takes an oath to obligate himself by a pledge, he must not break his word but must do everything he said. (Numbers 30:2 NIV)

c. Judge yourself on keeping your word.

i. When you reply, "Yes, I will pray for you,"—do you?

ii. When you tell someone they can depend on you to help them out—can they?

iii. When you say you will be there at such-and-such a time—are you?

iv. When you obligate yourself to pay a debt on time—do you?

7. Help those around you (work) - relationships and service to others are central to life.

a. Wayne helped local store

b. Hebrews 13:16 And do not forget to do good and to share with others, for with such sacrifices God is pleased.

8. Do everything with passion

a. Passion is contagious

i. Sports team

b. Colossians 3:23 Whatever you do, work heartily, as for the Lord and not for men.

c. What are you passionate about? What should a Christian be passionate about?

i. (Abhor) Hate What is Evil. Christians struggle with the term "hate." Rather than that, we use terms such as "dislike." However, that is not strong enough! God desires that we HATE evil! "The fear of the Lord is to despise evil," Proverbs 8:13 states. "I despise pride, arrogance, the evil way, and the perverted mouth." It is past time for Christians to hate evil. Of course, I am not advocating that we should hate evil people! Instead, we should want no part of their evil ways. It is not welcome in our homes, schools, or minds!

ii. Cling to What is Good. Again, Christian people have a way of watering this down too. We usually "like" what is good. However, in reality, that is not strong enough! We must be stuck to it like glue. We must be so committed to good that we are inseparable! Paul says we are to "But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good" (1 Thess. 5:21). Things like Bible study, fellowship, prayer, worship, and service are "good" things, and we need to be glued to them!

iii. Be Devoted to One Another. It is time that Christians learn to be devoted to one another in brotherly love. That does not mean you tolerate each other for a couple of weeks during worship! That means you are family! You are passionate about helping, serving, teaching, and even admonishing one another. When you see a brother in danger of losing his soul, you do not gossip about it; you go and talk to him! Church, be devoted to your family! I am very blessed in that we have small group bible study that meets every Tuesday. I care so deeply about these people that they are my family. We rejoice in one another's accomplishments, and we pray for each other and lift each other up to God when times are bad.

iv. Serving the Lord. Paul said not to be lagging in diligence and to be fervent in our service. The word fervent means to be boiling over! Can you say you are boiling over in your service to God? In 1 Corinthians 15:58, Paul wrote, "Therefore, my beloved brethren, be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, knowing that your toil is not in vain in the Lord." Can you say you are "always abounding in the work of the Lord?" When was the last time you honestly wore yourself out in service to the king? If you are not busy, then it is time to get busy! You are never more useful than when you are selflessly serving the Lord with everything you have!

Hey everybody. Welcome back to Lead 12:12. We're excited that you're hanging out with us. We have a great speaker today. We're so excited about Chris. Tell us about our speaker today.

We are here with a true legend, the star of my favorite TV show Sanford and son.

It's my honor to introduce. Demond Wilson! Thank you so much for joining us today.

It's my pleasure in that.

I say hi to, to all of your listeners and the woman that you said was your wife to just.

We weren't supposed to talk about that.

Yeah.

Yeah,

so Demond, I would love to hear your salvation story. Can you share that with us?

I'm so far beyond that, I grew up. Totally. Ensconced in Catholicism. I was an acolyte and my whole life is from the age of eight was centered around the church.

But I brought my mom. And my dad. Out of.

The dark side into the light, through the Catholic church now. One might say.

But you went from the dark side to a lighter, dark side which is true, but it, there are many roads that lead to to the most high and what the Lord saw in me. That I was born with was a talent. For entertaining. As a dancer and a singer and all of that. And. The love in my heart for him

so the Lord's call was on my life. My kids were in private parochial school. We were living in. In Bel air. Beverly Hills and I have six adult progeny. I took the Lord. A little as a, literally when he said go forth. Be fruitful and multiply.

did

that. Yeah, you

We think so I have four adult.

Daughters. And two adult. My oldest is 48, Nicole. My, my second born Melissa, and they both live in Atlanta with my granddaughter. My second, Melissa is 40. Is 44. My oldest son, Christopher who hits a golf ball, 320 yards. He's a beast. His kid. I put it off club in his hand when he was eight years old.

He is a monster and his brother Demonn Jr. Will never want it to be known as the Mon Jr. Until he started working in a corporate world and people say, Hey. Do you know who your dad is?

No. Do you know what whose name you have? And he said, yeah,

That's my dad and they said, wow, we're going to do business with you. So now he's Goodman Jr. The rescue and he's 41. Tabitha is 36. And my baby who's been married five years and has her doctorate. She is. 32. She's the one that I came off the road for and I. My personal touch was on her. She's a beast.

That's amazing.

Yeah, she, Sarah is 32 and she's married to a guy named Matt. Matthew Mahoney. Nice kid. Nice kid, but my baby girl, I still, I'm still, when he comes to my house, I do this.

I got ya. Yeah. Keep your eyes on him.

We've been married five years. So what happened to your base in your voice? It went up. We've been married. Mr. Wilson. I said, yeah. But I still. We've got you. And my scopes.

Then

Yeah, boy.

also back to what your original question was. I've always known. I came into the Catholic church to Christen my second born Melissa and my parents. I had sent to them. We had a rather large place. In Bel air and I came down the aisle of the church holding. My second born and my wife, my mother notch nudged my father.

And she said my dad's name was Grady Wilson. That's where the character

came from.

that's amazing.

And no, that's what his parents named him. So that's what he. What do you answered too? And my mom said But that's his nickname. The mine's going to preach. It's all over him.

And I turned down a lot of money after my third series. I was going to Florida to do my first. Revival. I had been studying, and I said to the Lord, Until I'm imbued with the with the paraklete, with the pneuma. The spirit of the living. Creator. I'm never going to eat again.

And I'm up.

And my tower in Belair up. And in my bedroom and. I took off all of my clothes and I just sat on the floor. And I'm about a day later. A voice spoke to my heart and said, are you ready to receive.

Wow.

And I got up and I was trembling and I went into the bathroom. Now my bathroom window was closed. My bathroom looked out over a tennis court, but it was a small window. It was closed. And I went down on my face. The way I came in the world. And I felt this warm. Breeze coming over me. And I jumped to my feet and.

I put my clothes on and I ran downstairs. My, my family. We're sitting at the breakfast table downstairs, having dinner. And I wanted to say to them, Honey. I just received the holy spirit and all of this strange language started coming out of my mouth. I couldn't start with. I felt like I was regurgitating and my wife and my kids looked at me like, oh my Lord.

He's gone.

No.

And you know what they were right. My wife would leave the house to drive the kids to school and she would come home. And I would be in, in the formal dining room, bathed in sweat. Preaching. Just preaching. There was no one there.

And she thought I had lost my mind. It was all over me. It wasn't something I could contain. So I knew when people said, why did you leave? Showbiz is when you went to the top. I never would do that. I said that's because I know what you don't know. I know the demonic force. That's all over the world, but specifically it's in areas like Hollywood Hollyweird.

Hollywood.

Is the, would that would just conjure on.

Okay.

big sign that you see Hollywood.

If you look up Hollywood, that's the, would that, which is conjured. And I saw all of that. You don't get to the top in the industry unless you have help.

True.

When I came from Vietnam. And when I got out of the military in 1968,

I had to reestablish myself in the theater. I had grown up in the theater. I started on Broadway as a kid and two years went by, I was drafted and. I was reestablishing myself and I was doing.

Gut bucket theater. I was doing.

Off-Broadway and then I started doing off-Broadway. And in those days, people like Al Pachino and the late Raul, Julia, who's a buddy of mine and we all did a film together in San Francisco. You don't get to the top in the industry and motion pictures and the recording industry. You do not get to the top simply because you're talented dis take that outta your mind.

It doesn't work that way. So when I saw the underside, the underbelly of what I was involved in, and I was at the top of my game, I did Sanford on NBC baby on back on CBS.

The new odd couple on ABC and universal studios. Had called me up and they were praising me. Demond come on over. I said, I don't come to studios. Doing a regular hours. This should come tell us when you want to get here.

I'll be there 4:30, 5:00, maybe 5: 30. We'll be here. I got there, there was the director, the producer, and they were ready to start ahead of. Sit-com they praised me for five minutes and they said, this is a story about a black doctor who was tired of the city, moved to the country.

And the people didn't trust him. And so the kids started bringing their animals to him and he. He caught on in the community like that. They said, it's perfect for you. Demand. You're a good guy.

And they made the mistake of saying. What have you been doing lately? Now what they didn't notice. I'm standing there with in those days, surgery over Linday jeans, and so I had a little bomber leather bomber jacket on me. Didn't see my quarter pounder with cheese under my arm. That's what I call my Bible. In those days.

Oh, okay.

Hebrew Bible quarter pounder with cheese. I didn't see that. But they made the fatal error of saying, what have you been doing lately? And there was a year between the new odd couple in these guys. I just stood there in the middle of the floor to the producer, the executive at universal studios, the director, and two writers.

And preach the gospel unwanted down. No, just straight up, no ice. 20 minutes.

And they shook my hand and they weren't, they didn't say anything. They were like, what the heck? I get home. And my wife said I had a, I had a. I had an English Jewish. Manager Bobby Littmann and my wife said, honey, you need to call your manager. And I called him. He said, oh, darling. What have you done?

I said, what do you mean. These people were going to pay you 150,000.

Oh, my

They said the mind doesn't want to act. It wants to preach. And the lights. There it is. And I had no idea how that was going to happen. I'm living in Bel air behind gates magic Johnson was down the hill. Jerry West was up the other end of the street. I had no, the only thing I knew was the Catholic church in Reverend I, so I knew that you could see the dilemma that was a joke. Hello.

Is this on.

Huh.

So you could see this dilemma. I I'm studying. The Lord is saying I'm going to open your ministry. I had no idea how it was going to happen. I'm sitting in the breakfast room, my gardener rolled down or Ramos it's to tired.

Kicked over the line one. I said, you see this just like the adversary I'm trying to study and he's disrupting me. And then the spirit said, go witness to him. I didn't speak Spanish.

I don't know. How I'm going to.

my goodness.

Conversed with this guy, so I go out there and I start talking. It's come on, guys, calm down. This is new play and this is serious. They go outside. And I started talking to this guy and I started. The Lord gave me word of knowledge into his life. I didn't know him for anything other than my gardener.

Huh.

And I said, roll down your married. Yes. He said, see, I said, where's your way. He's. He called. I said, are you faithful to your wife? You're not arguing. You said.

Wow.

And I said, how would you feel if she was doing that anyway, long story short. I asked him what he knew about the most high. He said. He wasn't in the church. I said, I want you to.

Say the sinner's prayer. Will you do that for me? And the Lord will come into your life and bless you in your family. And he did And we knelt down in front of my in front of my tennis court or was it in front of the house And we note down and I let him in As soon as Brian I said roll down I'm going to find you a Hispanic speaking church

I ran to the phone The only number I knew was seven One for 2000, which was Trinity broadcasting network. I stayed on the phone and it it was bam. I hung up and I tried to walk away the holy spirit to say, stay right there in a band. Bam. After a half an hour, I got you. A lady came on the phone and she said, Trinity, broadcasting network, praise the Lord.

Who am I speaking with? I said, I just led my gardener to the Lord. No, she said, what can I help you with? I said, I just led my garden into the Lord. Can you Find me a Hispanic speaking church. I said, I know there's one in Culver city. And she said,

Like women do, women are going to be a mother. I don't matter how old you are, how young you are. They going to be?

Sure.

And she said, your voice sounds awfully familiar. Who am I speaking with? I said Demond Wilson. She said, oh my gosh. You're not going to believe this. I said, okay. She said,

Four years ago, we were, we came to California and we were turned around up in Laurel canyon. And we didn't know how to get out of the canyon and nobody would stop. She said, did you drive. A silver and black. A rolls Royce would be Mon on the plates. And I said you're not the police. She said, no, I said.

I did. She said you stopped. And you asked us. If you could help us. And we told you and you didn't tell us, you took us down to sunset Boulevard. I never forgot that she said, what are you doing now? I said, I'm waiting on the Lord. He promised me some things and I'm waiting on him.

Wow.

And she said, hold on. She went to the phone and got Paul and Jan crouch and they got on, I did one show and my ministry just blew up world.

Amazing.

We serve an amazing God.

Amen.

Yes, we do.

A hundred percent. We do

tell me

that's. Huh.

Tell me

about your ministry and leadership and the things that you've had to.

grow through as you applied leadership in

ministry.

What happened was because of. Being an entity. I got invitations. I'm telling you guys, you got to read this book. I got invitations from the top, from the leaders of all denominations. From the church of God. The big boys.

From the Pentecostal assemblies, the big boys, the Baptist circle, the big boys. The paw. You don't base your theology on a lesser doctrine. People said, oh, you're baptized. The name of Jesus.

I said, yeah, he's one of them.

There's a couple others who went in there with him. I don't mind doing.

Oh, that's hilarious.

I'm a funny guy. He's paying me for doing this.

My calling was not as a pastor. You got the five full ministerial gifts you got. You got. Prophets evangelists, pastors, teachers,

You have to abide in your calling. And my calling was itinerant. I had to get out to the masses because the Lord didn't give me. Notoriety for me to sit down in front of 150 people every Sunday.

I'd like to ask you something about Sanford.

And Going back to your first answer. your father's name was Grady Wilson. Did you

get to name the character on Sanford and

We did rent and I, yes. His name was John Hill rice. Sanford his late brother was Fred Sanford.

Fringe

G Sanford. The G stands for gravy. If you got it, if you ain't got no gravy, that's not what.

I never knew

over here.

stood for, because it seemed to change all the time.

It depends on what he needed.

Yeah.

G stands for green. You got any gravy then when they would have stands for.

Oh, that's hilarious.

we did. We named a. Absolutely. And also a Lamont. When Redd. I ran away from home. He joined a tramp ban.

And his best friend was named Lamont.

So I know from reading your book,

You two had such a close relationship even called you son for. The rest of his life, from what I remember.

Yeah, Foxx. He heard me at the end. I never voiced it, but he hurt me at the end. I was walking down the hall and Abernathy, who was the anchor at NBC in those days. Came up to me and he said to mine, how. How does it feel? I said. Huh. We're walking down the hall at NBC. He said, No the end of an era, I said, what are you talking about?

He said you didn't read the trade papers today. I said, I don't read the trade papers any day. What did you talking about? He said, read ahead. It was on the front page.

Sanford and son, this is it for him. This is last season. And I was hurt because we always ran things by each other. When we started out, it was. student. Then it became more of a father, son relationship. And then later on, after the third season, It was younger brother, older brother.

I remember. I went to Foxx one day and said Redd. He said, yep. Whatever. The people would come to Redd this. At Foxx, we want to do this and that. Go ask my son, whatever you want to do.

Take a nap.

Oh, wow.

The roles are reversed. That's the way it's supposed to be in life.

Men where they had a strong dad, and now he's old and feeble and they leave them around in the mall. And wiping his shin when he drops, whatever he's eating and. That's the way it's supposed to be. You're not supposed to bury your kids. They're supposed to bury you.

That's true.

And your sons are supposed to take over, unfortunately. I don't think that's going to happen in my household.

I'm sorry to hear that.

The sharp.

I think we're just about running out of time. Wayne, do you have any questions for

A lot of people in the world are running out of time.

I understand that.

And we all are.

Man. That's the truth. I came out to gate like booboo, Shoop. You said, oh my gosh. He would lose them on us.

I've enjoyed every second

of it.

I don't have a question. I mean it's just. It's been a privilege to listen like you're right. And your story, what you shared, what not I'm guessing in a million years. But, Since I've been a follower.

I've come across a lot of people. And they have a lot of different beliefs and not many. I've been able to articulate them. The way that you have saw, I really appreciate that. Thank you brother. It's a calling, I can't take any credit for anything that I've done. He trained me up in the theater and he said, now take those gifts.

And take what I've placed in you, I prayed for. And I still do. Heavenly father in yeshua's, name, I pray for wisdom. I pray for knowledge. I pray for. Increased faith. I pray for healing. I pray for miracles. I. Pray for discernment. Pray for the nine indwelling manifestation gifts.

To loom large in me. And you have not because you asked not you received not because you asked him if Lord give me a husband. Lord, give me a way, Lord, give me a new house.

Lord, give me a car and people say the word says.

Whatsoever things you ask, they shall be given. And I've been asking, I'm not getting anything because you're not asking for the things that matter to the most high,

his. Gifts.

Not this earthly mess.

Yes. And that's what

For weeks, I've been praying for the anointing. Keep on.

That's amazing.

to go.

Love you.

Thank you so much.

you. Yeah.

Have a blessed week.

Yeah.

You too.

Ethical Leadership Continued

It seems like we live in a world of one after another high-profile scandal in business and government. Because of this, the interest in ethical leadership has grown proportionally. Prominent ethical scholars, including Ronald Heifetz, James MacGregor Burns, and Robert Greenleaf, have provided perspective on this area. A common theme is the need for leadership based on honesty, service to others, and moral courage. For Heifetz, leadership involves using authority to help followers uphold values in the workplace. Burns's theory of transformational leadership emphasizes the moral development of followers and maintaining high standards of ethical conduct. Greenleaf's approach to leadership has strong ethical overtones, with the central premise being that true leadership is service to others.

Heifetz's theory of leadership is known as adaptive leadership, and it states that it is the responsibility of the leader to assist the follower in struggling with change and personal growth

Burn's theory of leadership is known as the transformational leader. Burns states it is the leader's responsibility to assist followers in assessing their values & needs and to help followers rise to a higher level of functioning.

Robert Greenleaf developed the idea of the Servant Leader, and he states the leader should be attentive to the concerns of their followers and should take care of them and nurture them. In addition, Greenleaf argues that the servant leader has a social responsibility to be concerned with the have-nots and should strive to remove inequalities and social injustices. Greenleaf places a great deal of emphasis on listening, empathy, and unconditional acceptance of others.

In his 1986 book, The Hard Problems of Management: Gaining the Ethics Edge, Mark Pastin was the first to take a managerial approach to ethics in business. This was considered very thought-provoking on the ethics of management, and Pastin makes the following point: "An ideal [ethical] organization adds to the value of the individuals who are the organization. It does not require that individuals sacrifice some of their integrity to belong to the organization". I want to paraphrase that statement in terms of leadership. Leadership, correctly understood, operates this way: "Leadership adds to the value of the individuals who are in the relationship. Leadership does not require that individuals sacrifice some of their integrity to be in the relationship."

Pastin viewed leadership as a sort of social contract, and he developed a two-pronged test for deciding the ethics of a contract that could be translated to the concept of leadership. "Social contract is sound if the parties to the contract would enter the contract freely and fairly" Pastin does not tell us what his use of the word "freely" means except to equate it with voluntarily. Pastin also does not go into how he defines the word "fairly," but there is a secret to determining if every contract is fair.

"A contract is fair if the parties would freely agree to the contract even if their roles were reversed."

What does the Bible say about dealing with people at different stages of moral development?

Episode 22 – Leadership Ethics

Since I am the leader, I can do anything I want, right?  Have you had a leader like that or knew

anyone that thought like that?

Php 2:3–5 Do nothing from selfish ambition or conceit, but

in humility count others more significant than yourselves.  Let each of you look not only to his own

interests, but also to the interests of others. 

Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus,

Verses:

Ga 5:16–26 But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not

gratify the desires of the flesh.  For

the desires of the flesh are against the Spirit, and the desires of the Spirit

are against the flesh, for these are opposed to each other, to keep you from

doing the things…

1 Pe 1:15–16 but as he who called you is holy, you also be

holy in all your conduct, since it is written, “You shall be holy, for I am

holy.”

Ethics  Definition

and Theory

·        

Is a derivative of the Greek word ethos, meaning

customs, conduct, or character

·        

Is concerned with the kinds of values and morals

an individual or society ascribes as  desirable

or appropriate

·        

Focuses on the virtuousness of individuals and

their motives

Kohlberg’s Stages of Moral Development

In 1958 Lawrence Kohlberg had the idea that moral reasoning

was linked to cognitive development. 

Kohlberg studied this by posing questions about morality to children

aged 10 – 16 years and what he found was there were three levels of moral

development and each level was split into two stages.  Kohlberg also noted that people progressed

through these in a fixed order.

One of the best known of Kohlberg’s (1958) stories concerns

a man called Heinz who lived somewhere in Europe.

Heinz’s wife was dying from a particular type of

cancer.  Doctors said a new drug might

save her.  The drug had been discovered

by a local chemist, and Heinz tried desperately to buy some, but the chemist

was charging ten times the money it cost to make the drug, and this was much

more than the Heinz could afford.

Heinz could only raise half the money, even after help from

family and friends.  He explained to the

chemist that his wife was dying and asked if he could have the drug cheaper or

pay the rest of the money later.

The chemist refused, saying that he had discovered the drug

and was going to make money from it.  The

husband was desperate to save his wife, so later that night he broke into the

chemist’s and stole the drug.

Kohlberg asked a series of questions such as:

1.     

Should Heinz have stolen the drug?

2.     

Would it change anything if Heinz did not love

his wife?

3.     

What if the person dying was a stranger? Would

it make any difference?

4.     

Should the police arrest the chemist for murder

if the woman died?

Stages of Moral Development

·        

Level 1. 

Pre-conventional morality - Preconventional morality is the initial

stage of moral development, lasting approximately until the age of nine.  Children do not have a personal moral code at

the preconventional level; instead, moral decisions are shaped by adult

standards and the consequences of following or breaking their rules.  For example, if an action leads to punishment

is must be bad, and if it leads to a reward is must be good.  Authority is outside the individual and

children often make moral decisions based on the physical consequences of

actions.

o  Stage 1--Obedience and Punishment: Rules are

fixed and handed down by authority.  The

child/individual is good in order to avoid being punished.  If a person is punished, they must have done

wrong.

o  Stage 2--Individualism and Exchange: At this

stage, children recognize that there is not just one right view that is handed

down by the authorities.  An action is

right if it serves the individual

·        

Level 2. 

Conventional morality. 

Conventional morality is the second stage of moral development.  At the most basic level (for the majority of

adolescents and adults), we begin to internalize the moral standards of

respected adult role models. 

Internalized authority is not questioned, and reasoning is based on the

group norms to which the individual belongs. 

A social system that emphasizes both relationship responsibilities and

social order is deemed desirable, and thus must influence our perceptions of

what is right and wrong.

o  Stage 3--Interpersonal Accord and Conformity:

The child/individual is good to be seen as being a good person by others.  Therefore, answers relate to the approval of

others.

o  Stage 4--Maintaining the Social Order: The

child/individual becomes aware of the wider rules of society, so judgments

concern obeying the rules in order to uphold the law and to avoid guilt.

·        

Level 3. 

Post-conventional Morality - Postconventional morality is the third

stage of moral development, and is characterized by an individuals’

understanding of universal ethical principles. 

These are abstract and ill-defined but might include: the preservation

of life at all costs and the importance of human dignity.  Individual judgment is based on self-chosen

principles, and moral reasoning is based on individual rights and justice.  According to Kohlberg, this level of moral

reasoning is as far as most people get. 

Only 10-15% are capable of the kind of abstract thinking necessary for

stage 5 or 6 (post-conventional morality). 

Most people take their moral views from those around them, and only a

minority think through ethical principles for themselves.

o   Stage 5--Social Contract and Individual Rights: The child/individual becomes aware

that while rules/laws might exist for the good of the greatest number, there

are times when they will work against the interest of particular

individuals.  The issues are not always

clear-cut.  For example, in Heinz’s

dilemma, the protection of life is more important than breaking the law against

stealing.

o   Stage 6--Universal Principles: People at this stage have developed their own set of

moral guidelines which may or may not fit the law.  The principles apply to everyone.  E.g., human rights, justice, and equality.  The person will be prepared to act to defend

these principles even if it means going against the rest of society in the

process and having to pay the consequences of disapproval and or imprisonment.  Kohlberg doubted few people reached this

stage.

Can we see any flaws in this study? Age, life

experience, doesn’t match internal vs external.

What does the Bible say about different moral

development:  Ro 14:2-4 2 One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables.  3 Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him.  4 Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another?  It is before his own master that he stands or falls.  And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand.

It is a good day though.

It's interesting because Jesus was all about relationship. It was never about religion. Yeah. And the best relationships go on forever. If you can keep a best friend from childhood on.

That's your person. Yes. And that's exactly how I felt with, and sometimes it's hard to explain it. 'cause some people say where are you really a Christian? Or if you didn't understand, but I did. And I had this moment and it's like my whole life. I always knew Jesus was by my side. I. I just knew it. I knew it and I could feel it and sense it even without my understanding. Fully. What I didn't know, but that's how God works. I. He has protected me, has favored me and my family. He has given me so much and. And so when I, 15 years ago when I went through a Bible study I really didn't study the Bible. When I was young. The way that I do today. And so I remember going through this Bible study and it was just the most eyeopening, like, why didn't I ever see that before? Or how come? I didn't understand that before. And it was I actually had a. Somebody prophesied over, beyond an airplane. One time, it was a strange experience. And they said to me that my faith was about to radically change. And my my my understanding of it is going to just, grow rapids, and it did. And it was in that moment from, like I said, that was about 15 years ago to today. I still so much to learn, but I've the journey is just so much different and better and yeah.

That's an amazing story. Thank you. I've got it. I'm dying to ask you this. Tell me about what it was like working with Zig. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my gosh, just. Incredible. And I don't know that there's no other word to describe it. I met sake when I was 18. I was, yeah, like in funny enough, I was, I just graduated from high school and my mom and dad sent me and my brother to his born to win conference. Wow. Thinking we'd be thrilled about it. And I went kicking and screaming.

I did. I was like I don't want to go to a seminar, especially not a motivational seminar. I'm 18. I have an 80 year old. I know he feels the same way. But it changed my life. And I walked up to Zig at the end of the conference and not thinking beyond what was just the words at the moment, but I just knew, I just loved everything about him in the seminar. And I said, I'm going to work for you one day. You just wait and see. And I went off to college and it was almost five years to the day that I started working for him. And it was such a God thing because. I didn't even remember that. I said that until I was in my first job after college cold calling on businesses and I accidentally, we know there's no accident, cold called on the Zig Ziglar corporation, which I didn't even know was in Dallas. And that's when it just that light bulb of oh my gosh, that's right. I'm supposed to work here. And I ran in and I, applied for a job and I got it. And that's how I started, but that was when I was 23 years old. I yeah. So that's where it all began. And so working with him, being around somebody with so much integrity and so much. I didn't know any different. I didn't have another conception of corporate America is as much as I did there. So to see him and his love for people, his love for Jesus, he. My life and he didn't even know. I didn't even know. How he was shaping me. At that stage because I wasn't I wasn't the Christian I am today. That I w then sure. I listened to his stuff. I think I want to say in the early nineties and my gosh, he had such an impact on me so I can imagine working with him. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. It's funny because people ask that question a lot and he's such a bigger than life, man, and he's great on stage. And I always say he was actually better. Behind closed doors. Truly he and he, it was never about him. It was never ego. His only motivation in everything he did was to serve God and help other people. And it came out in every conversation. Yeah, it was extraordinary. And in, looking back now as an adult, I'm so incredibly grateful and I was, So blessed to have that opportunity and. Which is what makes it so much more special now? That it's a long story, how I got here, but I, now when I speak or when I do podcasts or when I write my books, every bit of my story is around Zig because that is the beginning of my transformation. And so now to be on the other end and to help keep his legacy alive is just it's. It's just so incredible. That's wonderful. I can imagine. Yeah. I. I can imagine in my mind what it's like, but I'm sure you experienced, it was so much better. That's just incredible. Tell us about the books that you've written. I've written several books. The first one was called winning in life. Now how to break through to a happier you and Zig actually was gracious enough to write the forward, but that was a book I never intended for anyone to read, but my family. Famous last words. That is literally how my business started, because I just wrote this book because I felt truth be told. I felt like I was telling me to tell my story and I thought you know what, if I write it just for my boys, that'll be, it'll be okay. And then it took off. But my second book was called busy, being busy, but getting nothing done. And it was just all about, how to juggle everything that we juggle in life. And then my last several books have been all about story. I help people to tell their story. One of the books is called your book is your business card. The next book is called the power of your I'm sorry, the power of authority, which is a play on words. You can't spell authority without author. And the book that hasn't published yet, but is closest to my heart than any of them is called shine through your story. And it's, and it is really more about that. God's given us our story and it's a gift and gifts are meant to be shared. Amen. No to our listeners, we're going to put a link to all of those books in the podcast notes. That is wonderful. And I can't wait to see your new book. Thank you. It's taken me a little longer than I, it should. But. Especially during COVID I'm sure that had an impact on everything. Yes. Yes. But all in due time, I can't actually wait to read your net the end published book, because a person's story is so important. Not just to them, but to other people. But also it allows them to reflect on feedback they get when they actually share. That there may be not the worst that they're not. The best. They're not alone. Yep. That's what it boils down to. It makes our story is what it gives people hope. If somebody can know, wow, he went through that or she went through that and look at where they are now good or bad. We all have parts of our story that were. For wonderful and awesome that we want to talk about. And then we all have parts of our story that are dark and maybe, we've been through things such as the Boris or abuse or bankruptcy or things that maybe we don't want to talk about, but when we do and we share it and say, Hey, I've been there. It gives people hope and. I just think that when you think of your story even the parts that were afraid to talk about, we can't change your story and God's given it to you for a reason. And it's usually to inspire and give hope and inspiration to somebody else. And I think we learned the best, their stories. The perf the best example of who did this better than anyone is Jesus. Jesus told stories.

But where I go beyond that is it's not just about knowing your story and sharing it with a girlfriend or a friend over coffee. It's when we document our stories. I think that's when we have the potential to make the biggest impact. And again, the apostles had documented for us to all be sitting here today. With the hope we have. It's just an opportunity for us to, just to. What is God doing in your life and how has that helped you and how could you share that to help someone else? That is so fascinating. I've never thought of it that way. You're exactly right. Our story. So our testimony is so important. That's amazing. Yeah. And the authenticity of it too. When I think back to the people that have changed my life in dark times, I think about somebody who came alongside and said, you know what? I've been there. And you're going to get through this and let me tell you how and that's. I think it's for an, That's again, it's our responsibility in a way to share our story. To give hope. And we wouldn't withhold it to a friend or a family member, or if we were in front of somebody. So just think of the potential that you could have if you share that on a bigger scale. Wonderful. And impact someone you don't know. So true. So do you have a favorite. Story of Zig you can share with us.

Oh, my goodness. I have so many yes. Okay. This one. It's just, it just shows it's more Testament to his character. So when I was there in 19 94, 95, 96, somewhere in that range I was there for about four years. And we had about 80 people in the company at the time. So it was pretty big company. Yeah, the way the warehouse, we had sales, we had management. All of that. I was in sales for a sec. And every, and this was before cell phones, by the way, or right around the time that not everybody had them. Christmas morning every year. You would get a phone call from Zig personally, he called every single person in the company. Wow. Yeah, I still get choked up thinking about it because who does this and when I would call them up and I'll, If his ex voice, Michelle.

And he would just say, I just want to tell you how much we appreciate you. I couldn't do this without you. He did this for everyone, no matter what their role was. And it was such a. I just remember feeling and he would, that was Sunday or Christmas morning. So he was walking away from his grandchildren, his children, his own family celebration to go call each one of us. Who does that. And so that's one of them with. Actually one other, if I can tell one more. Sure. Again, when I worked there, there was so many of us. And so when I tell you these stories, he treated everyone like this. I wasn't any different, but he just made you feel like you were the most important person in the room. Wow. And he would walk around the office and I, we were all in cubicles and I remember him coming in my cubicle many times. And he said, Michelle, is that boy still treating you? And he was talking about my then boyfriend, Chris, who is my now. A husband of almost 25 years. Huh. And he would, he's the moment he don't, he starts, he doesn't treat you. You let me know.

I just remember being like, yes, Mr. Ziglar.

These stories are amazing. And. They really emphasize that Zig truly was the man. He presented himself on the cassettes and the videos and everything else. Boy cassettes that's been a long time ago. Has. Yes. Yes. I still have all my consent, so I don't have anything to play them on. Get rid of them.

So we've got one more question for you and then we'll let you go. What is your biggest praise for God? Oh, Goodness. Now you make me really cry.

He's so faithful.

So faithful and I've seen it. In generations of my family. And so undeserved. But yet he's so faithful and.

Just as goodness and my, My, my family. Whew!. And. He's part of every moment in every detail. If we stop and we listen and he, this I'm so grateful that God speaks to me. He speaks to you. He speaks to all of us. And we all have the power to hear his voice. And but that's how much he loves us and the relationship he wants with us. So he's just so faithful. That is wonderful. Thank you for sharing that. And thank you for being here with us. You've been a fantastic guest. Again, this is Michelle Prince check out her books. She does a wonderful job with this. Thank you so much, Michelle. Thank you for having me.

Gotcha. Wayne, how are you? Good, man. How are you? Living the life, my brother, trying to get my blood pressure down. But other than that, I'm doing good. Everybody else. Good. Chris doing great. Good Jayden. That's our dog. This with it. She might hear her snoring. She's our mascot. We love her.

All right, let's get rolling. All right. So the last time we ended with Kelly typology, and I'll give a quick review of that. Kelly typology is the most recognized form of followership. It comes from Robert Kelly in his book, "The Power of Followership". And he argues that the power of followers usually goes unrecognized. Would you guys agree with that?

Sure. Wayne, what do you think. Yes.

He also argues that followers are a vital part of leadership. And he emphasized that the motivations of followers and their behavior is used to shape leadership and. The goal of Kelly's typology is to become what's called an exemplary follower. Gotcha. And it's important that we put this down in later as we finish this up and at the end, we'll have some scripture, but the main goal for us as Christians is to follow Christ.

Absolutely. We follow him as our example, we understand the importance of being a follower. And I don't know if we teach that enough. I think sometimes. We we do the old lead follower get out of my way and I get it, but I think we need to follow. And sometimes we don't teach that enough in the church. So you're absolutely right.

Just a second thought there, we don't teach much about following it all. We'll teach you how to be a good leader. But how to be a good follower that never comes up. Never an ultimately. That's our calling is to follow Christ. What do you think Wayne? I think a good leader has to be a follower.

Then we got to follow somebody. Absolutely. Amen. Amen. So according to Kelly. Followers have two styles. And this is again what we went over in the last episode. They have independent and critical thinking or their depended and uncritical thinking. And of those two dimensions, you get five follower types.

The passive followers, these are the sheep and they look to the leader for everything, both the direction and motivation. And you get conformist. Those were yes, people. And they're always on the leader side and they still look to the leader for guidance and direction. Then you get the alienated followers. These people think for themselves, and they have a lot of negative energy and they're usually always against the leader.

The fourth type is a pragmatic followers and these are the fence sitters. They support the status quo, but they don't get on board until everybody else does. And the last is the exemplary followers. These are the star followers. These are our goals. What's another name for an exemplary follower, Dave.

That's a good question. Have you ever had someone that you consider to be a really good follower? You are really close to them and you may even call them friend. Sure absolutely. I've got a verse for us here. This is in John 15:15. Jesus says no longer do I call you servants for the servant does not know what his master is doing, but I've called you friends for all that I ever heard from my father. I have made known to you.

That's good. One of the things that I want to make sure we get across. This isn't being passive aggressive. This is actually following someone you believe in. And when you do that and when you have people do that for you, ultimately I think Wayne. Put it really good. Just a few minutes ago. We're all following something. We are.

And if we're following ourself, we're in destruction mode. And so we need to really think on who we're following while we're following and how do we. I guess I get word as exemplify that to other people, show that to other people and to be the follower of the one that you believe in. I agree with that.

Oh, there you go. Take care of Palo's. It's been rough. When the day I got there, though, I'm back. He's back.

Okay. Based on those five types. We know that exemplary or effective followers have four qualities. Number one they self-manage and think for themselves. Number two, they have a strong commitment to the organizational goals. Number three, they build competence and they master their job skills. Number four, they're ethical and courageous.

They may even dare to challenge the leader. And. There's a correct time to do that. And there's an incorrect time to do that. Ephesians four 15 tells us. Rather speaking the truth in love. We are to grow up in every way into him, who is the head into Christ. So you've got to do that in love. Yeah. And if we understand.

Every commandment from Jesus talks about loving each other. And honestly, I don't know if we do it well

I agree with that completely. The problem with it is we're scared. And I know every one of us is listening to this. At some point you've been hurt by someone else. And when you get hurt, That hurt comes across in a situation where you don't want to follow anybody because you're afraid you're gonna get hurt again.

That's true. Here's the reality. And this is what we got. Understand the problem wasn't us. It was the person we were following. And if we're not following the right one, then we're never going to get on the right boat. And so if I'm following Jesus first, and then I follow people who love Jesus, then I'm on the right path. That doesn't mean they won't let me down because they will.

Ask yourself, this situation in church work or anything else? The people that I'm leading or the people I'm following, do they love Jesus with reckless abandonment? And if they don't, then you're going to have issue. That's it. What do you think? It's interesting because. I don't work in a church. I don't know. That there are a lot of people. That I work with that follow Jesus. But that doesn't give me. An out. True. To not be. That example. That makes sense. A hundred percent, right?

And I think accountability is a big thing there. I think. I'm accountable to Jesus and Jesus alone. And so where no matter what I'm at or where I'm at, I got to exemplify him and show him because people need to know about him. You know why? Because he's incredible. Amen man changed my mind. He changed my life and I know that he can change anyone else that I get to lead. And so if I'm leading them, I'm leading them to Jesus. True. No, that's so true.

That is so true and it was beautiful. And ultimately that's what leadership is Chris? Whether you're doing it like where Wayne is or where you are, or even at a church where I am we're leading people, hopefully that they see Jesus in us. Amen. And if they don't, I want to challenge you as leaders reevaluate your leadership because you're messing it. That is our number one goal. You're exactly right.

That's good stuff I feel like I need to be writing that down Dave. It stuff. It took me a minute to get warmed up right now. We're rolling here. Off you go. I don't know about all that, but I'm trying.

So let's talk about engagement and followers have different levels of engagement, and in fact, there's five levels. And as you can see, the engagement matters quite a bit with followers. The first level of followers are completely isolated and they're unengaged.

I'm going to put you on the spot, Dave, if you were to give a percentage of average church goers how many people would you say are. Completely unengaged. That's fair. Not at Christchurch case anyone from.

But the other churches. Honestly sometimes This is horrible to say, I've read things that say 20% sometimes. I can honestly say with Christ church, I feel like we have heavy involvement. 70, 80% easy and we're working on everyone to get involved in the church .

Again, people don't want to engage in what you're doing. Sometimes engagement's a good word that I don't know. We, if we understand if we're engaging with people, it means we're helping them to see what we believe. Yes. And so that's an important thing in my life. And if I'm messing that, so the average church, I don't know. I think the churches that I've been, I was at one church where I was lucky. If it was 10%, I've been one church where I'm currently at, where it feels like sometimes it's 90%. So you just don't know.

90%. I feel like we do really well if I'm honest with you, but I do think I do. Definitely. I still think we were missing people and one of the things Jeff Gaines and I do who's. Leading our lead pastor. And I worked with him. One of the things that we try to do in everything that we do is how do we get people more involved? How do we get them to come on Sunday nights? How do we do stuff?

That would help them see how important Christ is in their life. And if we're missing that we're missing everything. You're right. One of the ways that we do that at the church. Is when you keep talking about engagement. It's not like in term, it's a way of life. And the focus is literally just sitting down.

Across from somebody. And letting them. Let you experience what they go through. That's good. Very good. It's really good. And for example, like we have upward Wayne and I got the hangout. I'm not going in details about what happened.

Oh, my aching back. Let us pray. If you ever want to really find out how much he loves Jesus what's fifth and sixth grade basketball game and watch the parents afterwards. Let us pray. But I got to hang out with Wayne and he got to see me in a situation that where it was intense at times. He got to settle me down and it was good. It was good for us just to be there for each other. And I think.

The only way you do that's to do life. You got to find places where there's upward or it's a small group or whatever it is. That's your following and then that's it. I know that's mainly church. I know I'm talking to that, but even in your work, you've got to find ways to have lunch with people. You got to have, find ways to get to know the people on just a little bit deeper level.

Amen. That's true. Yeah. So we discussed the people who are unengaged. What about the next level up the bystanders or observers? Who show up and they're there, but they don't do anything.

Again, don't ask me how many are that is church. No, we don't want the oh. And here's the thing that I think you need to ask of you as you're listening to this. How am I at my workplace? How am I at my church? Yeah. How am I doing in, other places in life where God's called me to lead?

What am I doing? And I, am I an engaged in, what do I need to do to get my head there? Absolutely. And, moving on the next step up from that or that the participants. And they're partially engaged and they're even willing to take a stand on some issues. Gotcha. Good stuff. Moving up from there, we've got activists. They feel strongly about the leader and the leader's policies, and they'll even act on their own beliefs.

But it's still not what we're looking for. Correct? Correct. We're moving at it. This is the last one. These are the diehards and they're dedicated to the cause they're deeply committed to supporting or opposing the leaders. A diehard can be on either side.

Gotcha. Explain that either side of what. You can have a follower who is a diehard who completely supports everything you do, because they believe in you. they know that you are a man of God or perhaps you've made them angry and they show up at church every time just to oppose everything you do. And there's still diehard. Yeah. I've met that. Both of those people actually.

So that's interesting. That's crazy is. And not in Christchurch. Not at all. But other churches I've been in. I heard that. That's good. With all this in mind. And keep in mind, the followership is brand new. They're just started studying this and the academics are just starting to put this out. We've got a new co-created leadership process.

The leaders behaviors are influence attempts on the followers and they have to work together for leadership. So we study all this on leadership, but if we don't have followers that are engaged, you're not going to be successful.

A hundred percent. And I believe that with church work, I believe that with anything. Even like ministers groups, I've been in, sometimes we're all trying to do the same thing, which is to love our community. And sometimes we're trying to compete with each other and to get other people.

To come to our church from their church. Sure. The goal shouldn't be that in church work, the goal should be, how are we looking at following Christ and loving people and doing what our niche is doing, what we do and do it well, At Christ church. Our goal is for people to see that they have real hope in Jesus.

That's everything that motivates me when I get up and when I walk and when I talk and I want to motivate people to the hope they have in Jesus. Very good. And I've got five questions. I want to ask Dave and Wayne, I want you to say true or false. If you think an exemplary leader does this.

Are you worried, Wayne? Oh, I'm terrified.

They haven't seen the answers. I'm going to open it up now, let us pray. You should start with Dave.

All right. Then I tell you guys, I love Wayne. Take that back. Number one followers. Get the job done. Is that true or false? Oh, so I can't say sometimes. Nope. It's just one or the other. Get the job done. Oh, I'm going to go with true. Wayne I'll go with the truth. The true is the answer. You're correct.

Thank you. Leaders can lead all they want, but it is the followers that gets the job done. Amen. That's good. The second one. Now we're talking about the exemplary followers work in the best interest of the organization's mission.

So are we talking that they should do that? Yes. True. Wayne. Sure. You're exactly right. Two for two aisle. Good job.

Me and my blood pressure's high. What are you doing? Number three followers support the leader. True or false. True. Sure. Very good. We're on a roll. Number four followers challenge the leader. I think true to that. Wayne. What do you think. I think sure. Excellent. They should. And they should, if they're doing their thing right.

Again, let me just say that's accountability. I should know that somebody can ask me, what are you doing with this? And I should be able to say, this is where I am, and this is what I'm doing, because I'm accountable to those who are following me and. In my opinion. So you're absolutely right.

Here's the last one. Followers learn from leaders. True. Wayne. Sure you got it. You guys got a hundred percent way to go. Why didn't you tell us they were all true.

I wish you all could see the look. That the look of fear on Dave. Fear, nothing. That was my blood pressure going through. I've got to get my pills out. Thank you very much. So now that's that's the basics of followership. I want to go over the strengths of followership. Followership we now know is an important part of the leadership equation and that's something we did not know 20 years ago.

Followership forces a whole new way for people to think about leadership and a focus on the followers. Back in the day, followers were not a focus of anything.

True because we were all doing our own thing. Yes. I think this happens in church, work to. I think we forget about the people that are in the pew that we're trying to love on. we're not just trying to get people in the church. We're trying to bless those that are already there.

Oh, yes. The thing is though, when you bless those that are already there, it's very important that you understand that they're going to bless you too, because it's a team and they become part of the one community loving Jesus together. That's what church work ultimately is. If we can get there. Does that make sense?

It makes perfect sense. What do you think Wayne? I think. I agree with what you're saying. Okay. But also, no. No, but don't call me that.

It's important to remember that their followers are not employees. That's true. They're making a conscious decision. To get behind in something you support or something you advocate or whatever it is. Let me say this. I know we got a few seconds, but let me just say this, because this is very important. I think you also have to understand that as leaders we make mistakes and.

I think when you follow. People you have to give them grace and. I don't know if we do that enough. I think we're really quick to judge. And as soon as we blow it, that's it. Sorry, you can't lead me anymore. The truth is. If you're following people, you're going to be disappointed at some point every time.

If you're just putting it on us, we're going to let you down. Is that fair? We are definitely going to let you down. Yes. We're only human and we're mess.

But I wanted to share this with you. We discussed percentages a minute ago and during all of my leadership training, as I'm getting my doctorate. We had a study where we show percentages. And you consider your team in a rowboat. 10% of your team is actively rowing. And they're trying to get the team back to shore or out to sea, wherever you're going, but they're working with you and they're working hard.

60% of the team. Is not doing anything they're lounging around and sitting there. 20% are just doing minimal effort, just bare minimum. And 10% is actively working against the team.

And that's something to think about when you look at your team and think, why are 10% of my people working against me here? I haven't reached them in some way. So let's go back to what we were just talking about because we're leading people and people will let you down as well.

And one of the things I don't think we teach enough as leaders, ministers, whatever the point is, you can't put your faith in a person. You put your faith in. in God. And if you don't do that, You're totally missing the whole point. Absolutely. And now here's the last thing I've got. This is how to be an exemplary follower.

And there are seven steps. And I want you guys to think of a relationship you have, where you are the follower, and you don't have to answer these. And I want people listening, think about the relationship where you are a follower, and we're going to find out if you're an exemplary follower. The first step to being an exemplary follower is to pray for your leader and even let your leaders know you're praying for them.

A hundred percent, I think. If we're not, especially in church work, but in anything. That's the thing I don't think that people do when they're leading outside of the church enough. I don't think we, we pray for those that we get to lead I worked for the state and I realized when I was working.

There that I needed to love the people that God put in my path. And if I didn't. I was going to mess it up. I was...]]>ad0029af-6cac-465a-9f8e-b676a1e70a92Tue, 22 Feb 2022 09:00:00 -040027:14nofull120Hey everybody. We are back. The three Amigos. We're excited to be talking to you today about Chris, what are we talking about? Today we're going to finish up followership on episode 18. We began discussing our two-part discussion of followership, and we ended with discussing Kelly typology of followership. Gotcha. Wayne, how are you? Good, man. How are you? Living the life, my brother, trying to get my blood pressure down. But other than that, I'm doing good. Everybody else. Good. Chris doing great. Good Jayden. That's our dog. This with it. She might hear her snoring. She's our mascot. We love her. All right, let's get rolling. All right. So the last time we ended with Kelly typology, and I'll give a quick review of that. Kelly typology is the most recognized form of followership. It comes from Robert Kelly in his book, "The Power of Followership". And he argues that the power of followers usually goes unrecognized. Would you guys agree with that? Sure. Wayne, what do you think. Yes. He also argues that followers are a vital part of leadership. And he emphasized that the motivations of followers and their behavior is used to shape leadership and. The goal of Kelly's typology is to become what's called an exemplary follower. Gotcha. And it's important that we put this down in later as we finish this up and at the end, we'll have some scripture, but the main goal for us as Christians is to follow Christ. Absolutely. We follow him as our example, we understand the importance of being a follower. And I don't know if we teach that enough. I think sometimes. We we do the old lead follower get out of my way and I get it, but I think we need to follow. And sometimes we don't teach that enough in the church. So you're absolutely right. Just a second thought there, we don't teach much about following it all. We'll teach you how to be a good leader. But how to be a good follower that never comes up. Never an ultimately. That's our calling is to follow Christ. What do you think Wayne? I think a good leader has to be a follower. Then we got to follow somebody. Absolutely. Amen. Amen. So according to Kelly. Followers have two styles. And this is again what we went over in the last episode. They have independent and critical thinking or their depended and uncritical thinking. And of those two dimensions, you get five follower types. The passive followers, these are the sheep and they look to the leader for everything, both the direction and motivation. And you get conformist. Those were yes, people. And they're always on the leader side and they still look to the leader for guidance and direction. Then you get the alienated followers. These people think for themselves, and they have a lot of negative energy and they're usually always against the leader. The fourth type is a pragmatic followers and these are the fence sitters. They support the status quo, but they don't get on board until everybody else does. And the last is the exemplary followers. These are the star followers. These are our goals. What's another name for an exemplary follower, Dave. That's a good question. Have you ever had someone that you consider to be a really good follower? You are really close to them and you may even call them friend. Sure absolutely. I've got a verse for us here. This is in John 15:15. Jesus says no longer do I call you servants for the servant does not know what his master is doing, but I've called you friends for all that I ever heard from my father. I have made known to you. That's good. One of the things that I want to make sure we get across. This isn't being passive aggressive. This is actually following someone you believe in. And when you do that and when you have people do that for you, ultimately I think Wayne. Put it really good. Just a few minutes ago. We're all following something. We are. And if we're following ourself, we're in destruction mode. And so we need to really think on who we're following while...LBS ProductionsFirst, Break All The Rules: What the World's Greatest Managers DoWe discuss Marcus Buckingham's best-selling novel "First, Break All The Rules: What the World's Greatest Managers Do" and pay special attention to the 12 simple statements that distinguish the strongest departments of a company from the rest. These 12 statements are arranged as a process for (appropriately enough) climbing mountains and are: Base Camp: "What do I get?"  1.     Do I know what is expected of me at work?  2.     Do I have the materials and equipment I need to do my work right?  Camp 1: "What do I give?"  3.     At work, do I have the opportunity to do what I do best every day?  4.     In the last seven days, have I received recognition or praise for doing good work?  5.     Does my supervisor, or someone at work, seem to care about me as a person?  6.     Is there someone at work who encourages my development?  Camp 2: "Do I belong here?"  7.     At work, do my opinions seem to count?  8.     Does the mission/purpose of my company make me feel my job is important?  9.     Are my co-workers committed to doing quality work?  10.  Do I have a best friend at work?  Camp 3: "How can we all grow?"  11.  In the last six months, has someone at work talked to me about my progress?  12.  This last year, have I had opportunities at work to learn and grow?  The Summit  If you can answer positively to all of these twelve questions, then you have reached the summit.  This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Chartable - https://chartable.com/privacy Podtrac - https://analytics.podtrac.com/privacy-policy-gdrpWe discuss Marcus Buckingham's best-selling novel "First, Break All The Rules: What the World's Greatest Managers Do" and pay special attention to the 12 simple statements that distinguish the strongest departments of a company from the rest. These 12 statements are arranged as a process for (appropriately enough) climbing mountains and are:

Base Camp: "What do I get?" 

1.     Do I know what is expected of me at work? 

2.     Do I have the materials and equipment I need to do my work right? 

Camp 1: "What do I give?" 

3.     At work, do I have the opportunity to do what I do best every day? 

4.     In the last seven days, have I received recognition or praise for doing good work? 

5.     Does my supervisor, or someone at work, seem to care about me as a person? 

6.     Is there someone at work who encourages my development? 

Camp 2: "Do I belong here?" 

7.     At work, do my opinions seem to count? 

8.     Does the mission/purpose of my company make me feel my job is important? 

9.     Are my co-workers committed to doing quality work? 

10.  Do I have a best friend at work? 

Camp 3: "How can we all grow?" 

11.  In the last six months, has someone at work talked to me about my progress? 

12.  This last year, have I had opportunities at work to learn and grow? 

The Summit 

If you can answer positively to all of these twelve questions, then you have reached the summit. 

The study of followership is very new in the field of leadership and is only now becoming studied in depth.

Learn how as a follower to avoid situations like David Koresh of the Branch Davidians and Jim Jones.

God uses you every once in a while, you just have to let him do it!

Usually, this is done with the top management layer responsible for identifying the best solutions. An adaptive challenge enables more precise problem identification and engages the entire organization in searching for potential solutions.

When no simple solutions are available, it is adaptive leadership to the rescue! It is a necessary ability for anyone seeking systematic change in an increasingly complex world. 

Adaptive leaders cultivate a range of perspectives in order to generate a large number of alternatives. Adaptive leaders lead with empathy, provide autonomy and independence to their employees, and find win-win solutions for everyone.

In this episode we discuss servant leadership, its beginnings, the 7 points of Christian Servant Leadership, and we have a lot of fun along the way!

Today, the world is full of "reality" leaders that make leadership all about themselves.

Authentic Leadership is just the opposite.

Authentic Leadership is not about ego.  Jesus did not puff out his chest and demand that everyone do his wishes because he is the boss.

Studies have found that today people are very insecure about what is going on around them. As a result, the need for authentic Leadership is significantly increasing in recent times due to social upheavals.  Today, people are longing for trustworthy leaders.

Be sure to take our Authentic Leadership quiz to evaluation your Authentic Leadership at https://www.lead1212.com/quiz/authentic-leadership-approach-quiz/

Join us as we discuss transformational leadership, important transformational leaders from the Bible, and even pseudo-transformational leaders from the Bible.

LMX states that leaders should develop a high-quality relationship with ALL the followers rather than just a few. The Leaders should nurture high-quality exchanges with ALL followers (and not only those with the same interests as the leader). 

The Path-Goal method is a highly acclaimed theory of Leadership and was developed in 1971 by Robert House. The Path-Goal method says the leader should engage in a behavioral pattern that will complement and compensate for the deficiencies of his follower.

The essence of the situational approach requires leaders to match their style to their followers’ competence and commitment. Effective leaders are those who can discern what their followers require and then adapt their own style to meet those requirements.

The Skills Approach is a theory that specific skills make people better leaders. This was developed by a person named Robert Katz back in 1955. In his studies, he determined there were 3 skills that effective leadership must have and continually develop: technical skills, human skills, and conceptual skills.

You can determine your rating in each of the 3 skill categories of Skills Approach by going to https://www.lead1212.com and clicking on QUIZ in the navigation.

To rate your emotional intelligence go to https://www.lead1212.com/quizzes/

If you were going to select the personality traits that would make someone a good leader, what would you select?

In this episode, Dave and Chris discuss Trait Based Leadership in such biblical figures as Paul, John the Baptist, Boaz, and of course, Jesus.