<![CDATA[Make Planning Make Sense]]>233b5a34-121d-5bb3-b1b7-f7cc8b3f6b11Thu, 16 Apr 2026 04:00:05 +0000Captivate.fmCentro Planning Consultancyhttps://artwork.captivate.fm/e218bb78-f4a6-4cdb-a717-6b042b3f58f6/BDI5Y0tNlDjEBnkCgvjrAkco.jpgMake Planning Make SenseCentro Planning ConsultancyCentro Planning ConsultancyThis podcast is for anyone trying to build, fund, design, approve, or understand development in the UK. Your host, Aaron Zimmerman MA MSc MRTPI, is having honest conversations with other leaders from across the built environment sector to Make Planning Make Sense. Follow for new episodes fortnightly on Thursdays! Make Planning Make Sense is presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England. https://centroplan.co.uk/https://makeplanningmakesensedc68b0ec4b183269a34d104cb8d1a13ca28797cb.captivate.fmtrueepisodicnopodcastS02 E09 Development & business development (feat. Adam Green and Emily Wilson of Ninety Four Group)S02 E09 Development & business development (feat. Adam Green and Emily Wilson of Ninety Four Group)Our guests this week are Founding Director Adam Green and Director of Partnerships Emily Wilson of Ninety Four Group.

Adam and Emily share insights about a sector that’s just as much P2P as it is B2B. How do we grow our businesses? How do relatively young companies navigate the public sector procurement process? What makes a company one of the firms that comes to mind when it’s time to tender? We cover it all, as well as the delicate topic of karaoke.

Be sure to follow for new episodes fortnightly. Make Planning Make Sense is hosted by Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI, presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>Our guests this week are Founding Director Adam Green and Director of Partnerships Emily Wilson of Ninety Four Group.

Adam and Emily share insights about a sector that’s just as much P2P as it is B2B. How do we grow our businesses? How do relatively young companies navigate the public sector procurement process? What makes a company one of the firms that comes to mind when it’s time to tender? We cover it all, as well as the delicate topic of karaoke.

Be sure to follow for new episodes fortnightly. Make Planning Make Sense is hosted by Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI, presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>28b478f0-bcf4-40d9-9433-3e4e03f98bcbThu, 16 Apr 2026 05:00:00 +010043:45truefull2992S02 E08 Forgiving ourselves the guilt of imperfection (feat. Marko Salopek, Senior Project Manager at Muse)S02 E08 Forgiving ourselves the guilt of imperfection (feat. Marko Salopek, Senior Project Manager at Muse)Our guest this week is Marko Salopek, Senior Project Manager at Muse.

Marko comes at the discussion from his particular perspective as part of a prestigious public-private partnership placemaking powerhouse, Muse. This conversation was a lot of fun, but it also makes a compelling a compelling argument for imperfection and grace.

It’s been remarkable that so many conversations within the built environment sector carry themes of anxiety, perfectionism, overwhelm, and the fear of guilt. Perhaps unsurprisingly, the negative themes live in those gaps between how the system was designed and how it’s come to operate.

And what I’ve really appreciated is how our conversation with Marko and other guests on the podcast identify practical opportunities to fix and fill those gaps.

Be sure to follow for new episodes every other week. Make Planning Make Sense is hosted by Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI, presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>Our guest this week is Marko Salopek, Senior Project Manager at Muse.

Marko comes at the discussion from his particular perspective as part of a prestigious public-private partnership placemaking powerhouse, Muse. This conversation was a lot of fun, but it also makes a compelling a compelling argument for imperfection and grace.

It’s been remarkable that so many conversations within the built environment sector carry themes of anxiety, perfectionism, overwhelm, and the fear of guilt. Perhaps unsurprisingly, the negative themes live in those gaps between how the system was designed and how it’s come to operate.

And what I’ve really appreciated is how our conversation with Marko and other guests on the podcast identify practical opportunities to fix and fill those gaps.

Be sure to follow for new episodes every other week. Make Planning Make Sense is hosted by Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI, presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>4e7e5abe-e853-4659-881c-c4322794b698Thu, 02 Apr 2026 05:00:00 +010001:01:06truefull2882S02 E07 Development Finance: A Modern Fairytale (feat. Uliana Kuzmis, Chief Credit Officer at Pallas Capital UK)S02 E07 Development Finance: A Modern Fairytale (feat. Uliana Kuzmis, Chief Credit Officer at Pallas Capital UK)Our guest this week is Uliana Kuzmis, Chief Credit Officer at Pallas Capital UK.

Our conversation is a window into the world of development finance. Uliana sets out how development is actually financed – or not – including the functional constraints on finance that aren’t easily visible to other parts of the built environment sector. It’s a must-listen for anyone in the sector who knows the value of the full picture, outside our own silos.

Be sure to follow for new episodes every other. Make Planning Make Sense is hosted by Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI, presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>Our guest this week is Uliana Kuzmis, Chief Credit Officer at Pallas Capital UK.

Our conversation is a window into the world of development finance. Uliana sets out how development is actually financed – or not – including the functional constraints on finance that aren’t easily visible to other parts of the built environment sector. It’s a must-listen for anyone in the sector who knows the value of the full picture, outside our own silos.

Be sure to follow for new episodes every other. Make Planning Make Sense is hosted by Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI, presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>07d2a9e6-6fbf-49c0-aad3-d84c0c6a9690Thu, 19 Mar 2026 05:00:00 +010049:16truefull2772S02 E06 Reform isn't NPPFfortless (feat. Melissa Murphy KC of Landmark Chambers)S02 E06 Reform isn't NPPFfortless (feat. Melissa Murphy KC of Landmark Chambers)Our guest this week is Melissa Murphy KC of Landmark Chambers.

Melissa talks us through the draft NPPF from fresh angles, puts the power of planning committees in perspective, and considers the limitations of the metaphor of the planning balance.

Just to note, International Women’s Day is coming up on 8th March. The day commemorates women's continuing fight for equality and liberation and the proud history of the women's rights movement. Let’s give the women in our lives the fist bump, windmill high five, respect, appreciation and solidarity they deserve.

Be sure to follow for new episodes every other week. Make Planning Make Sense is hosted by Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI, presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>Our guest this week is Melissa Murphy KC of Landmark Chambers.

Melissa talks us through the draft NPPF from fresh angles, puts the power of planning committees in perspective, and considers the limitations of the metaphor of the planning balance.

Just to note, International Women’s Day is coming up on 8th March. The day commemorates women's continuing fight for equality and liberation and the proud history of the women's rights movement. Let’s give the women in our lives the fist bump, windmill high five, respect, appreciation and solidarity they deserve.

Be sure to follow for new episodes every other week. Make Planning Make Sense is hosted by Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI, presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>2f594f0d-4130-4e49-ac61-b03457ca25aaThu, 05 Mar 2026 05:00:00 +010041:17truefull2662S02 E05 Carbon impact, in fact (feat. James Mickelburgh, co-founder of Jensen Hunt)S02 E05 Carbon impact, in fact (feat. James Mickelburgh, co-founder of Jensen Hunt)Our guest this week is James Mickelburgh, co-founder of Jensen Hunt.

As town planning agents, part of our role is to make sense of a subjective and often open-ended policy context that’s always changing. The conversation with James shows how policies regarding environmentally sustainability are amongst the most open-ended, the effects that can have on decision making, and where we find optimism about these issues.

Be sure to follow for new episodes every other week. Make Planning Make Sense is hosted by Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI, presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>Our guest this week is James Mickelburgh, co-founder of Jensen Hunt.

As town planning agents, part of our role is to make sense of a subjective and often open-ended policy context that’s always changing. The conversation with James shows how policies regarding environmentally sustainability are amongst the most open-ended, the effects that can have on decision making, and where we find optimism about these issues.

Be sure to follow for new episodes every other week. Make Planning Make Sense is hosted by Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI, presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>8d65edf5-ed97-4da1-a7cf-ba6aff0819f7Thu, 19 Feb 2026 05:00:00 +010039:55truefull2552S02 E04 Inefficiency doesn’t make pence (feat. Viktor Rohacs, Founder and Director of Rohacs Architects)S02 E04 Inefficiency doesn’t make pence (feat. Viktor Rohacs, Founder and Director of Rohacs Architects)Our guest this week is Viktor Rohacs, Founder and Director of Rohacs Architects.

As town planning agents, we know it’s as important to secure a successful permission as it is to secure a deliverable permission. Our conversation with Viktor shows that commercial-mindedness is part and parcel rather than an opposing force to delivering successful places.

Be sure to follow for new episodes each week. Make Planning Make Sense is hosted by Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI, presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>Our guest this week is Viktor Rohacs, Founder and Director of Rohacs Architects.

As town planning agents, we know it’s as important to secure a successful permission as it is to secure a deliverable permission. Our conversation with Viktor shows that commercial-mindedness is part and parcel rather than an opposing force to delivering successful places.

Be sure to follow for new episodes each week. Make Planning Make Sense is hosted by Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI, presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>90a077d6-7acb-4449-a55d-b4ac14f75f69Thu, 12 Feb 2026 05:00:00 +010047:01truefull2442S02 E03 Planning's prickly intersections (feat. Phineas Harper)S02 E03 Planning's prickly intersections (feat. Phineas Harper)Our guest this week is the one-and-only Phineas Harper.

The team at Centro is in the built environment sector because we’re dedicated to the outcomes we achieve. We’re invested in the nature of our work. That’s why it was such a good time speaking with Phineas, who has a unique position in the sector as an activist, an organiser, and – dare we say – a provocateur.

Be sure to follow for new episodes each week. Make Planning Make Sense is presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>Our guest this week is the one-and-only Phineas Harper.

The team at Centro is in the built environment sector because we’re dedicated to the outcomes we achieve. We’re invested in the nature of our work. That’s why it was such a good time speaking with Phineas, who has a unique position in the sector as an activist, an organiser, and – dare we say – a provocateur.

Be sure to follow for new episodes each week. Make Planning Make Sense is presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>2322fc79-1f41-44b7-8e09-917bdeb37053Thu, 05 Feb 2026 05:00:00 +010048:18truefull2332S02 E02 Adrenaline straight to the Kickstart? (feat. Reuben Taylor KC of Landmark Chambers)S02 E02 Adrenaline straight to the Kickstart? (feat. Reuben Taylor KC of Landmark Chambers)Our guest this week is Reuben Taylor KC of Landmarks Chambers. Reuben is a brilliant planning barrister, and, as you’ll hear, our conversation covers a wide range of topics.

From the kickstart measures for housing delivery in London to the Building Safety Regulator, the draft NPPF and Mötley Crüe, this one has it all.

Be sure to follow for new episodes each week. Make Planning Make Sense is hosted by Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI, presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>Our guest this week is Reuben Taylor KC of Landmarks Chambers. Reuben is a brilliant planning barrister, and, as you’ll hear, our conversation covers a wide range of topics.

From the kickstart measures for housing delivery in London to the Building Safety Regulator, the draft NPPF and Mötley Crüe, this one has it all.

Be sure to follow for new episodes each week. Make Planning Make Sense is hosted by Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI, presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>496f2281-5e3f-4e8a-b574-424189e84f21Thu, 29 Jan 2026 05:00:00 +010042:57truefull2222S02 E01 Outcome-orientated Leadership (feat. Cllr Anthony Okereke, Leader of the Royal Borough of Greenwich)S02 E01 Outcome-orientated Leadership (feat. Cllr Anthony Okereke, Leader of the Royal Borough of Greenwich)The Season 2 premiere! Our guest this week is Councillor Anthony Okereke, leader of the Royal Borough of Greenwich. The insightful conversation covers new towns, the emergency relief measures for Greater London, local government funding, and good governance. We also talk politics a bit, but, as you’ll hear, not as much as Councillor Okereke had hoped. (Sorry, Anthony.)

Be sure to follow for new episodes each week. Make Planning Make Sense is hosted by Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI, presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>The Season 2 premiere! Our guest this week is Councillor Anthony Okereke, leader of the Royal Borough of Greenwich. The insightful conversation covers new towns, the emergency relief measures for Greater London, local government funding, and good governance. We also talk politics a bit, but, as you’ll hear, not as much as Councillor Okereke had hoped. (Sorry, Anthony.)

Be sure to follow for new episodes each week. Make Planning Make Sense is hosted by Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI, presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>90d2be67-2c8c-4d6a-a73e-82899831916eThu, 22 Jan 2026 05:00:00 +010038:07truefull2112S01 E25 Planifesto - Season 1 Finale (feat. Centro's own Luke Raistrick)S01 E25 Planifesto - Season 1 Finale (feat. Centro's own Luke Raistrick)Welcome to the Season 1 Finale! Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI sits down with Centro's Managing Director, Luke Raistrick MRTPI to distil the insights shared by our terrific guests over the course of Season 1. If you've been waiting for a single episode to tell you what's what, this is it! Share with abandon.

Thank you to all our guests who joined us for Season 1! We'll be back without missing a beat with the premiere of Season 2 next week.

Be sure to follow for new episodes each week. Make Planning Make Sense is presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>Welcome to the Season 1 Finale! Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI sits down with Centro's Managing Director, Luke Raistrick MRTPI to distil the insights shared by our terrific guests over the course of Season 1. If you've been waiting for a single episode to tell you what's what, this is it! Share with abandon.

Thank you to all our guests who joined us for Season 1! We'll be back without missing a beat with the premiere of Season 2 next week.

Be sure to follow for new episodes each week. Make Planning Make Sense is presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>12459bf2-a82c-474f-a230-2896dd639bbbThu, 15 Jan 2026 05:00:00 +010001:01:34truefull125251S01 E24 Agent, operative, principal, spy (feat. Dr Nancy Holman and Dr Alan Mace of the LSE)S01 E24 Agent, operative, principal, spy (feat. Dr Nancy Holman and Dr Alan Mace of the LSE)This is the penultimate episode of Season 1 of Make Planning Make Sense!!! Our guests this week are Professor Nancy Holman and Professor Alan Mace of the London School of Economics. It’s a terrific conversation that invites us to take a step back from how planning and planning reform are often discussed in the public sphere.

Be sure to follow for new episodes each week. Make Planning Make Sense is presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>This is the penultimate episode of Season 1 of Make Planning Make Sense!!! Our guests this week are Professor Nancy Holman and Professor Alan Mace of the London School of Economics. It’s a terrific conversation that invites us to take a step back from how planning and planning reform are often discussed in the public sphere.

Be sure to follow for new episodes each week. Make Planning Make Sense is presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>bd933a2c-2ec7-4be9-a074-9cc7ca3e04abThu, 08 Jan 2026 05:00:00 +010049:06truefull124241S01 E23 Sociable, valuable social value (feat. Cleo Folkes of Thrive)S01 E23 Sociable, valuable social value (feat. Cleo Folkes of Thrive)Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI and Alex Roth sit down with Cleo Folkes of Thrive to discuss how we can measure and understand social value. In this episode, we talk through how similar the planning balance exercise is to a social value exercise. Still, for reasons we get into on the pod, we’re not close to turning the planning balance into a quantitative exercise.

Be sure to follow for new episodes each week. Make Planning Make Sense is presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI and Alex Roth sit down with Cleo Folkes of Thrive to discuss how we can measure and understand social value. In this episode, we talk through how similar the planning balance exercise is to a social value exercise. Still, for reasons we get into on the pod, we’re not close to turning the planning balance into a quantitative exercise.

Be sure to follow for new episodes each week. Make Planning Make Sense is presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>fce6332c-de53-4abc-852f-ec773b35643fThu, 18 Dec 2025 05:00:00 +010039:43truefull123231S01 E22 Spaghetti throwing (feat. Maurice Lange of the Centre for Cities)S01 E22 Spaghetti throwing (feat. Maurice Lange of the Centre for Cities)In our penultimate episode of 2025, Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI and Alex Roth sit down with Maurice Lange, Analyst at the Centre for Cities and co-author of a report we keep referencing on the show! In this episode, we talk through London's approach to density, incentive structures in local government and possible ways forward for our planning system.

Be sure to follow for new episodes each week. Make Planning Make Sense is presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>In our penultimate episode of 2025, Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI and Alex Roth sit down with Maurice Lange, Analyst at the Centre for Cities and co-author of a report we keep referencing on the show! In this episode, we talk through London's approach to density, incentive structures in local government and possible ways forward for our planning system.

Be sure to follow for new episodes each week. Make Planning Make Sense is presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>84d31ffb-260b-4cf8-a247-8ada5004aa0eThu, 11 Dec 2025 05:00:00 +010039:39truefull122221S01 E21 Can you imagine? (feat. Jamie Holmes, CEO of Vu.City)S01 E21 Can you imagine? (feat. Jamie Holmes, CEO of Vu.City)Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI and Alex Roth sit down with Jamie Holmes, CEO of Vu.City. In this episode, we talk through the power of Vu.City as a communication tool. We also chat about what’s next for Vu.City, a bit of comparative politics, and a bit of behavioural sociology.

Be sure to follow for new episodes each week. Make Planning Make Sense is presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI and Alex Roth sit down with Jamie Holmes, CEO of Vu.City. In this episode, we talk through the power of Vu.City as a communication tool. We also chat about what’s next for Vu.City, a bit of comparative politics, and a bit of behavioural sociology.

Be sure to follow for new episodes each week. Make Planning Make Sense is presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>075166f2-5c58-4ff6-baa7-24be5593ca57Thu, 04 Dec 2025 05:00:00 +010034:38truefull121211S01 E20 Section 106 bangers and clangers (feat. Hannah Irish of McGuireWoods)S01 E20 Section 106 bangers and clangers (feat. Hannah Irish of McGuireWoods)It's our first episode in front of a live studio audience! Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI and Hannah Irish, Associate at McGuireWoods, discuss the pratfalls and pitfalls of Section 106 legal agreements.

We cover:

🔹 What Section 106 agreements are and why they matter

🔹 When they’re required (vs. CIL or conditions)

🔹 Common causes of delay — and how to overcome them

🔹 Legal and policy tests under Reg 122 & the NPPF

🔹 Real case studies on monitoring fees and CIL “double dipping”

🔹 Our top tips for streamlining agreements and keeping them lawful

A huge thank you to CREW UK and Pulse Consult for sponsoring and hosting the event.

Be sure to follow for new episodes each week. Make Planning Make Sense is presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>It's our first episode in front of a live studio audience! Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI and Hannah Irish, Associate at McGuireWoods, discuss the pratfalls and pitfalls of Section 106 legal agreements.

We cover:

🔹 What Section 106 agreements are and why they matter

🔹 When they’re required (vs. CIL or conditions)

🔹 Common causes of delay — and how to overcome them

🔹 Legal and policy tests under Reg 122 & the NPPF

🔹 Real case studies on monitoring fees and CIL “double dipping”

🔹 Our top tips for streamlining agreements and keeping them lawful

A huge thank you to CREW UK and Pulse Consult for sponsoring and hosting the event.

Be sure to follow for new episodes each week. Make Planning Make Sense is presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>3e961c25-a85e-4937-9eb3-afa1625e2f53Thu, 27 Nov 2025 05:00:00 +010043:40truefull120201S01 E19 Experienced planners don't grow on trees (feat. John Somers of the University of Westminster)S01 E19 Experienced planners don't grow on trees (feat. John Somers of the University of Westminster)Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI and Alex Roth sit down with John Somers, Senior Lecturer in Planning and the Historic Environment and Course Leader of the MA RTPI Apprenticeship programme at the University of Westminster. In this episode, we take a closer look at planning as a profession, how planning is perceived, what skills planners need and how we can support the next generation of planners.

Be sure to follow for new episodes each week. Make Planning Make Sense is presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI and Alex Roth sit down with John Somers, Senior Lecturer in Planning and the Historic Environment and Course Leader of the MA RTPI Apprenticeship programme at the University of Westminster. In this episode, we take a closer look at planning as a profession, how planning is perceived, what skills planners need and how we can support the next generation of planners.

Be sure to follow for new episodes each week. Make Planning Make Sense is presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>9df7d670-ca8c-4288-83d4-d65305e2d642Thu, 20 Nov 2025 05:00:00 +010035:33truefull119191S01 E18 Team allotment (feat. Natalie Taylor of Acacia Management and Facilities)S01 E18 Team allotment (feat. Natalie Taylor of Acacia Management and Facilities)Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI and Alex Roth sit down with Natalie Taylor, Managing Director at Acacia Management Facilities, specialists in interior and exterior landscaping. We discuss opportunities to introduce more plants into our built environment and what role planning can play to this end.

Be sure to follow for new episodes each week. Make Planning Make Sense is presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI and Alex Roth sit down with Natalie Taylor, Managing Director at Acacia Management Facilities, specialists in interior and exterior landscaping. We discuss opportunities to introduce more plants into our built environment and what role planning can play to this end.

Be sure to follow for new episodes each week. Make Planning Make Sense is presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>4c8c0512-0c40-4e6d-bc2d-efe513f7b199Thu, 13 Nov 2025 05:00:00 +010031:51truefull118181S01 E17 Jarring, incongruous, delightful (feat. Esther Robinson Wild & Darcie Kerr of Robinson Wild)S01 E17 Jarring, incongruous, delightful (feat. Esther Robinson Wild & Darcie Kerr of Robinson Wild)Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI and Alex Roth sit down with Esther Robinson Wild and Darcie Kerr of historic environment consultancy Robinson Wild. We talked about Robinson Wild's unique approach combining heritage and viability expertise as well as the importance of integrity, expertise and a robust evidence base in determining heritage significance.

Be sure to follow for new episodes each week. Make Planning Make Sense is presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI and Alex Roth sit down with Esther Robinson Wild and Darcie Kerr of historic environment consultancy Robinson Wild. We talked about Robinson Wild's unique approach combining heritage and viability expertise as well as the importance of integrity, expertise and a robust evidence base in determining heritage significance.

Be sure to follow for new episodes each week. Make Planning Make Sense is presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>1674c1d9-1770-49f2-b00e-446adad8ee2fThu, 06 Nov 2025 05:00:00 +010036:00truefull117171S01 E16 Something's gotta give (feat. Paul Willis of YES Engineering)S01 E16 Something's gotta give (feat. Paul Willis of YES Engineering)Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI and Alex Roth sit down with Paul Willis, Transport Director at YES Engineering, to discuss the Government and Mayor of London's recent policy note, the need for a "common sense" approach to guidance, the efficacy of pre-apps and much more.

Be sure to follow for new episodes each week. Make Planning Make Sense is presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI and Alex Roth sit down with Paul Willis, Transport Director at YES Engineering, to discuss the Government and Mayor of London's recent policy note, the need for a "common sense" approach to guidance, the efficacy of pre-apps and much more.

Be sure to follow for new episodes each week. Make Planning Make Sense is presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>f928ded9-0b04-4505-b220-5a8c5b3483f3Thu, 30 Oct 2025 05:00:00 +010042:59truefull116161S01 E15 Policy slay-kers (feat. Marco Tomasi of Formation Architects)S01 E15 Policy slay-kers (feat. Marco Tomasi of Formation Architects)Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI and Alex Roth sit down with Marco Tomasi, Director at Formation Architects. In this episode, we sketch a world beyond this one where planning is predictable, timely, and delivery-orientated. Are planning agents soon to be obsolete?

Be sure to follow for new episodes each week. Make Planning Make Sense is presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI and Alex Roth sit down with Marco Tomasi, Director at Formation Architects. In this episode, we sketch a world beyond this one where planning is predictable, timely, and delivery-orientated. Are planning agents soon to be obsolete?

Be sure to follow for new episodes each week. Make Planning Make Sense is presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>7b0265a8-a7cf-454b-a663-2a7fe69c0feaThu, 23 Oct 2025 05:00:00 +010047:54truefull115151S01 E14 Land value capture slaps, sure (feat. Prof. James White of the University of Glasgow)S01 E14 Land value capture slaps, sure (feat. Prof. James White of the University of Glasgow)Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI and Alex Roth sit down with Prof. James White, Professor of Planning and Urban Design at the University of Glasgow and co-author of Condoland: The Planning, Design, and Development of Toronto's Cityplace. James shares how planning negotiations and land value capture shaped the development of a major brownfield site in central Toronto and what lessons we can draw from this case study here in the UK.

Be sure to follow for new episodes each week. Make Planning Make Sense is presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI and Alex Roth sit down with Prof. James White, Professor of Planning and Urban Design at the University of Glasgow and co-author of Condoland: The Planning, Design, and Development of Toronto's Cityplace. James shares how planning negotiations and land value capture shaped the development of a major brownfield site in central Toronto and what lessons we can draw from this case study here in the UK.

Be sure to follow for new episodes each week. Make Planning Make Sense is presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>2a4c144a-e2f0-4270-90d5-3407507c5970Thu, 16 Oct 2025 05:00:00 +010042:37truefull114141S01 E13 Small and medium enterprises, big picture energy (feat. Alex Uregian of City Sanctuary)S01 E13 Small and medium enterprises, big picture energy (feat. Alex Uregian of City Sanctuary)Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI and Alex Roth sit down with Alex Uregian, Director of SME developer City Sanctuary. We bring Big Picture Energy to our discussion about the competing priorities for high-quality residential accomodation, the problems paralysing the entire sector, and more than one (pretty darn sensible) apprach that Government can take to work with the sector to actually get affordable homes delivered.

Be sure to follow for new episodes each week. Make Planning Make Sense is presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI and Alex Roth sit down with Alex Uregian, Director of SME developer City Sanctuary. We bring Big Picture Energy to our discussion about the competing priorities for high-quality residential accomodation, the problems paralysing the entire sector, and more than one (pretty darn sensible) apprach that Government can take to work with the sector to actually get affordable homes delivered.

Be sure to follow for new episodes each week. Make Planning Make Sense is presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>ef478ee4-6f84-485a-8c1e-816b0d6629a5Thu, 09 Oct 2025 05:00:00 +010042:35truefull113131S01 E12 The SMEs are not alright (feat. Paul Higgs of the Millbank Group)S01 E12 The SMEs are not alright (feat. Paul Higgs of the Millbank Group)Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI sits down with Paul Higgs MRICS, Founder of the Millbank Group and former Senior Executive at Barratt. Paul is not pleased, and you shouldn't be, either. Join the conversation about why SME developers are an endangered species, land banking (!), and how policy making has become unhinged from its ramifications.

Be sure to follow for new episodes each week. Make Planning Make Sense is presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI sits down with Paul Higgs MRICS, Founder of the Millbank Group and former Senior Executive at Barratt. Paul is not pleased, and you shouldn't be, either. Join the conversation about why SME developers are an endangered species, land banking (!), and how policy making has become unhinged from its ramifications.

Be sure to follow for new episodes each week. Make Planning Make Sense is presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>acfe99d6-254d-4743-a209-0176d4328813Thu, 02 Oct 2025 05:00:00 +010043:17truefull112121S01 E11 A vision-led head coach (feat. Peter Murray OBE of New London Architecture)S01 E11 A vision-led head coach (feat. Peter Murray OBE of New London Architecture)Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI and Alex Roth sit down with Peter Murray OBE, founder of New London Architecture, founder of the London Festival of Architecture, prolific author, and thought leader (and much, much more).

Peter makes a strong case for a public design vision. A successful design vision needs senior leadership and continuity in the local authority. We talked about Peter's insights in several topics, including insights from his time on the Board of Directors of Be First, an organisation established by the London Borough of Barking and Dagenham that arguably revived the practice of public design vision.

At Centro, we're able to achieve results even when a public design vision is lacking. But we also know from experience how public design leadership can really stabilize the planning process and improve delivery.

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Make Planning Make Sense is presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI and Alex Roth sit down with Peter Murray OBE, founder of New London Architecture, founder of the London Festival of Architecture, prolific author, and thought leader (and much, much more).

Peter makes a strong case for a public design vision. A successful design vision needs senior leadership and continuity in the local authority. We talked about Peter's insights in several topics, including insights from his time on the Board of Directors of Be First, an organisation established by the London Borough of Barking and Dagenham that arguably revived the practice of public design vision.

At Centro, we're able to achieve results even when a public design vision is lacking. But we also know from experience how public design leadership can really stabilize the planning process and improve delivery.

Be sure to follow for new episodes each week!

Make Planning Make Sense is presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>e040c490-a557-434e-b703-a298f89bbb87Thu, 25 Sep 2025 05:00:00 +010047:58falsefull111111S01 E10 Daylight/sunlight/gaslight (feat. Neil Cawood of AWH)S01 E10 Daylight/sunlight/gaslight (feat. Neil Cawood of AWH)Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI sits down with Neil Cawood MAPM MRICS, Director at Anderson Wilde & Harris, who spills the good tea on daylight/sunlight and the anxiety caused by an unpredictable planning system.

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]]>Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI sits down with Neil Cawood MAPM MRICS, Director at Anderson Wilde & Harris, who spills the good tea on daylight/sunlight and the anxiety caused by an unpredictable planning system.

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Make Planning Make Sense is presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>2c304b69-89c8-446c-a49a-5d0a24ae14dfThu, 18 Sep 2025 05:00:00 +010045:21truefull110101S01 E09 This is not viable (feat. Richard Ashdown of ULL Property)S01 E09 This is not viable (feat. Richard Ashdown of ULL Property)Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI and Alex Roth sit down with Richard Ashdown, Director at ULL Property, to make sense of financial viability in UK town planning and the justified - yet misdirected - frustration about the insufficient delivery of affordable housing.

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Make Planning Make Sense is presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI and Alex Roth sit down with Richard Ashdown, Director at ULL Property, to make sense of financial viability in UK town planning and the justified - yet misdirected - frustration about the insufficient delivery of affordable housing.

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Make Planning Make Sense is presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>d27bffed-ac28-4863-bdc1-996f67d7edc7Thu, 11 Sep 2025 05:00:00 +010039:22falsefull1991S01 E08 A very public engagement (feat. Ollie Sargent of Cartwright)S01 E08 A very public engagement (feat. Ollie Sargent of Cartwright)Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI and Alex Roth sit down with Ollie Sargent, Strategic Director for the Built Environment at Cartwright, to plot a national campaign for a new civic participation in town planning.

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]]>Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI and Alex Roth sit down with Ollie Sargent, Strategic Director for the Built Environment at Cartwright, to plot a national campaign for a new civic participation in town planning.

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Make Planning Make Sense is presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>6d571afb-0fc6-4fd6-843d-164812cae53cThu, 04 Sep 2025 05:00:00 +010044:32falsefull1881S01 E07 A roadmap to good transport (feat. Sarah Chapman of Markides Associates)S01 E07 A roadmap to good transport (feat. Sarah Chapman of Markides Associates)Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI and Alex sit down with Sarah Chapman, Associate at Markides Associates, for a discussion on where transport planning is going (excuse the mobility pun).

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]]>Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI and Alex sit down with Sarah Chapman, Associate at Markides Associates, for a discussion on where transport planning is going (excuse the mobility pun).

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]]>6aad9eb8-f652-454c-8d44-882f1463cb25Thu, 28 Aug 2025 05:00:00 +010052:46truefull1771S01 E06 Less than substantial charm (Part 2) (feat. Laurie Handcock of Iceni Projects)S01 E06 Less than substantial charm (Part 2) (feat. Laurie Handcock of Iceni Projects)We're back with part 2 of our conversation with Laurie Handcock. In this week's episode, we delve deeper into how heritage, townscape and visual impact factor into planning as we reflect on real world examples from our experience as consultants.

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Make Planning Make Sense is presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>We're back with part 2 of our conversation with Laurie Handcock. In this week's episode, we delve deeper into how heritage, townscape and visual impact factor into planning as we reflect on real world examples from our experience as consultants.

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Make Planning Make Sense is presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>4040fa7e-74a6-4229-b808-d0f5e60096c3Thu, 21 Aug 2025 05:00:00 +010028:05truefull1661S01 E05 Less than substantial charm (Part 1) (feat. Laurie Handcock of Iceni Projects)S01 E05 Less than substantial charm (Part 1) (feat. Laurie Handcock of Iceni Projects)Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI and Alex Roth are joined by Laurie Handcock, Director of Built Heritage and Townscape at Iceni, for part 1 of a discussion on the roles of heritage, townscape and visual impact in planning.

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Make Planning Make Sense is presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI and Alex Roth are joined by Laurie Handcock, Director of Built Heritage and Townscape at Iceni, for part 1 of a discussion on the roles of heritage, townscape and visual impact in planning.

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Make Planning Make Sense is presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>3a0e91ab-e280-43ec-9f7e-6c4e9348c959Thu, 14 Aug 2025 05:00:00 +010037:56truefull1551S01 E04 Weight, weight, don't tell meS01 E04 Weight, weight, don't tell meTown planners Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI and Alex Roth are back to brush you up on what the planning balance is and how it works.

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]]>Town planners Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI and Alex Roth are back to brush you up on what the planning balance is and how it works.

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Make Planning Make Sense is presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>71fcb661-3405-4817-93d8-58fef31e31cfThu, 07 Aug 2025 05:00:00 +010037:51falsefull1441S01 E03 Architecture v bureaucracy (feat. Tom Slater of T2S Architecture)S01 E03 Architecture v bureaucracy (feat. Tom Slater of T2S Architecture)Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI and Alex Roth sit down with Tom Slater RIBA, Managing Director of T2S Architecture, to discuss the relationship between architecture and town planning, purposeless submission requirements, the Government's growth agenda, and more.

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]]>Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI and Alex Roth sit down with Tom Slater RIBA, Managing Director of T2S Architecture, to discuss the relationship between architecture and town planning, purposeless submission requirements, the Government's growth agenda, and more.

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Make Planning Make Sense is presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.


]]>b57e7470-6b1c-4e66-8354-140435ec6edeThu, 31 Jul 2025 05:00:00 +010041:04truefull1331S01 E02 History (of planning) repeats itselfS01 E02 History (of planning) repeats itselfTown planners Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI and Alex Roth are back to talk through how we got to the planning system we have today and how that helps us understand the Government's planning reform agenda.

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]]>Town planners Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI and Alex Roth are back to talk through how we got to the planning system we have today and how that helps us understand the Government's planning reform agenda.

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Make Planning Make Sense is presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>e926997b-788d-4301-8a37-93380f39c888Thu, 24 Jul 2025 05:00:00 +010039:16truefull1221S01 E01 So, what towns have you planned?S01 E01 So, what towns have you planned?Join town planners Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI and Alex Roth as they set out to Make Planning Make Sense from the podcast studio (formerly 'conference room 2') at Centro Planning Consultancy.

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]]>Join town planners Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI and Alex Roth as they set out to Make Planning Make Sense from the podcast studio (formerly 'conference room 2') at Centro Planning Consultancy.

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Make Planning Make Sense is presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>e89bc196-f695-4b2a-b298-c497eed9a33fWed, 16 Jul 2025 05:00:00 +010022:23truefull1111E00 Trailer drop, mic dropE00 Trailer drop, mic dropJoin town planners Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI and Alex Roth as they set out to Make Planning Make Sense from the podcast studio (formerly 'conference room 2') at Centro Planning Consultancy.

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Make Planning Make Sense is presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

]]>Join town planners Aaron Zimmerman MRTPI and Alex Roth as they set out to Make Planning Make Sense from the podcast studio (formerly 'conference room 2') at Centro Planning Consultancy.

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Make Planning Make Sense is presented by Centro Planning Consultancy and recorded in beautiful London, England.

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