Listeners will uncover powerful insights into how men can step forward as active change-makers dismantling systems of harm. From the hidden intersections of tourism and trafficking to redefining fatherhood and confronting the cultural impact of pornography, this conversation invites every listener to rethink what strength and compassion truly mean in the modern world.

It’s an episode about courage, cultural identity, and the radical power of community action, the kind that inspires us to look inward so we can change what’s around us.

Keywords: trauma-informed care, Hawaii, child trafficking, masculinity, healing, survivor advocacy, fatherhood, cultural identity, demand reduction, community mobilization

Key Topics:

• What trauma-informed care looks like in healing.
• Cultural influences that shape exploitation and recovery in Hawaii.
• The evolving role of masculinity and fatherhood in prevention.
• How pornography fuels demand and perpetuates exploitation.
• Concrete community and policy steps to protect children and build resilience.

Action Items:

• Join local men’s circles or community discussions about trafficking prevention.
• Fathers model emotional presence and accountability at home.
• Support organizations and policies protecting children from exploitation.
• Educate yourself and others about the connection between pornography and demand.
• Share this episode to start tough but necessary conversations.

Chapters:

00:00 Introduction to the Masculine Wilderness Podcast

00:27 The Birth of Ho'o'a Na Pua

00:54 Recognizing Child Exploitation

02:19 Creating Healing Pathways for Victims

04:03 The Moment of Realization

05:39 A Calling to Shine Light in Darkness

06:52 Understanding the Indicators of Exploitation

08:47 The Significance of Naming the Organization

10:50 Cultivating New Life for Children

11:45 Personalized Healing Journeys

15:10 Empowering Agency in Healing

16:42 Understanding Hawaii's Unique Challenges

18:54 The Intersection of Tourism and Trafficking

21:05 The Role of Geography and Economics

22:07 Men's Role in Addressing Trafficking

23:45 The Importance of Fatherhood

25:37 Holding Men Accountable

26:39 The Power of Presence

28:32 Challenging Malignant Masculinity

30:53 Cultural Nuances and Redefining Masculinity

32:13 The Impact of Pornography on Society

36:17 Understanding Trauma in Survivors

42:13 Trauma-Informed Care Explained

48:29 Men's Role in Healing and Prevention

52:02 Finding Hope and Purpose in Darkness

Let's Connect:

www.hoolanapua.org

www.epikproject.org

In this powerful episode of the Masculine Wilderness Podcast, Tom sits down with Spencer Crace, college football coach and mentor, for a deeply honest conversation about masculinity, leadership, and the sacred responsibility of shaping young men through sport.

Spencer shares his journey into coaching and the moments that refined his philosophy, not just about winning games, but about building character, resilience, and brotherhood. Together, they unpack the invisible pressures facing young men today: comparison culture, criticism, identity confusion, and the quiet loss of free play that once taught boys how to fail, adapt, and lead themselves.

This episode goes far beyond X’s and O’s. It’s about fatherhood, patience forged through injury, the power of accountability within a team, and why coaches may be some of the most influential male role models a young man ever encounters. Spencer offers a grounded, compelling vision of leadership, one rooted in presence, humility, and integrity.

At the heart of the conversation is a simple but radical idea: you don’t win on the field if you’re losing at home. For coaches, parents, and men alike, this episode is a reminder that the greatest measure of success is who you become and who you help others become along the way.

00:00 — Introduction to the Masculine Wilderness Podcast

02:02 — Spencer Crace: A Coach’s Journey

03:48 — Sports and Character Development

07:47 — Leadership Lessons from Youth Sports

10:51 — Criticism, Pressure, and Mental Toughness

14:21 — Injury and the Discipline of Patience

16:41 — Brotherhood and Team Culture

18:55 — Taking Team Values Into Real Life

22:29 — The Coach’s Role in Shaping Young Men

24:50 — Fatherhood and Coaching: Parallel Callings

29:29 — The Comparison Trap in Modern Sports

33:19 — Why Free Play Still Matters

36:03 — Challenges Facing Young Men Today

39:16 — Redefining What It Means to Win

Let's Connect:

www.epikproject.org

DONATE:

https://funraise.org/give/Epik-Project/6e9de4e6-5b6d-4333-bd08-c043cd690405/

In this powerful episode of the Masculine Wilderness Podcast, Tom sits down with Megha Parekh, one of the few female executives working inside the NFL, for a rare and honest conversation about masculinity, leadership, and cultural change in professional sports.

Megha shares her journey into the league, navigating bias, earning trust, and helping shape environments where accountability and empathy aren’t liabilities, but strengths. Together, they explore the evolving realities of masculinity in sports, the slow but meaningful erosion of misogyny in the workplace, and why courageous conversations matter more now than ever.

This episode goes beyond locker rooms and boardrooms. Megha and Tom examine the outsized cultural influence of professional sports, how athletes and organizations model behavior for millions, and why mental health awareness, ethical leadership, and human dignity must be part of the conversation. From addressing exploitation and trafficking to mentoring young athletes, Megha offers a grounded, hopeful vision for what leadership can become.

This is a conversation about power, responsibility, and the freedom that comes from showing up as your full self, regardless of expectations.

Chapters

00:00 — Introduction to Masculine Wilderness

01:24 — Megha’s Journey to the NFL

03:27 — Expanding Roles in Professional Sports

08:21 — The Complexity of Masculinity in Sports

14:10 — Addressing Misogyny and Bias

18:04 — Creating a Supportive Work Environment

24:22 — Empathy and Accountability in the Workplace

30:00 — The Influence of Professional Sports on Masculinity

31:59 — Raising Awareness Around Mental Health

36:59 — Collaborating for Social Change

41:27 — Understanding the Buyer in Human Trafficking

47:11 — Empathy and Accountability in Justice

51:19 — Planting Seeds of Courage in Young Athletes

52:27 — Finding Hope in Cultural Change

Let's Connect:

www.epikproject.org

https://www.instagram.com/epik_project/

https://www.jaguars.com/

Drawing from over 12,000 recorded Storycore conversations, Jenni brings rare insight into what people are really longing for: to be heard, to be seen, and to matter. She breaks down why empathy isn’t just a virtue, it’s a skill, a practice, and a survival tool in a polarized world.

They dig into StoryCorps’ groundbreaking One Small Step initiative, which pairs Americans on opposite sides of the political spectrum for deeply human, surprisingly tender conversations. Through these stories, Jenni reveals the vulnerability, courage, and hope that emerge when we dare to listen past the noise.

This is an episode about connection, compassion, and the radical possibilities that open when we stop asking, “What do you believe?” and start asking, “What’s your story?”

Chapters:

00:00 — Introduction to the Masculine Wilderness Podcast

01:37 — Jenni Lippold: A People Technologist’s Journey

04:20 — StoryCorps: Archiving Humanity’s Stories

06:08 — One Small Step: Bridging Political Divides

11:48 — Digital Conversations: The Evolution of Engagement

15:10 — Insights from 12,000 Conversations

21:24 — Empathy: The Key to Understanding

27:49 — The Power of Shared Stories

33:54 — The Role of Empathy in Change

34:23 — The Power of Data in Empathy-Building

39:22 — Storytelling’s Impact on Understanding

45:21 — Children and the Magic of Storytelling

49:33 — Trauma & Connection Through Shared Stories

51:10 — Fear, Human Behavior, and the “Other”

53:18 — The Future of Empathy Initiatives

01:02:43 — Masculine Wilderness Theme

Let's Connect:

www.epikproject.org

https://storycorps.org/

What unfolds is a deeply moving exploration of Indigenous identity, relational accountability, and the complex realities of human trafficking in Alaska—a region where historical trauma, geographic isolation, and systemic inequities converge in devastating ways. Josie breaks down concepts like tundra pimping with honesty and nuance, exposing the long-standing roots of exploitation targeting Indigenous youth and rural communities.

But this episode isn’t just about the problem; it’s about the power of culture, connection, and collective care. Josie shares how Indigenous frameworks of interconnectedness offer pathways for healing, resilience, and prevention. She invites listeners to reconsider their relationship with anger, describing how women’s anger is often a powerful, defiant force for change, and how men’s anger can be transformed into grounded leadership and accountability.

Throughout the conversation, Josie weaves together personal narrative, cultural wisdom, and professional experience to illuminate what true community responsibility looks like. From the role of beauty and creativity in surviving hardship to the slow work of building trust across generations, this episode challenges listeners to show up more thoughtfully, more courageously, and more relationally.

This is an episode that lingers... a call to remember where we come from, who we are accountable to, and how we can show up for one another with more heart.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the Masculine Wilderness Podcast

01:47 Josie Heyano's Cultural Introduction

03:42 Personal Stories and Connections to Alaska

05:52 Human Trafficking in Alaska

10:13 Roots of Exploitation in Alaska

15:06 The Role of Anger in Advocacy

19:46 Gender Dynamics of Anger

25:07 Men in Leadership and Community Responsibility

29:59 Listening and Respecting Women's Anger

34:31 The Shift in Human Trafficking Dynamics

35:55 Emotional Healing Through Connection

36:12 Traditional Practices and Gender Roles

40:18 Balancing Roles in Caregiving

42:12 Cultural Practices and Community Care

45:11 The Power of Relational Care

48:39 The Role of Beauty in Healing

54:38 Reconnecting with Roots and Traditions

58:36 Hope in Advocacy and Community Resilience

01:04:00 A Message to Men: Building Trust and Awareness

01:08:14 Masculine Wilderness Theme.mp3

Let's Connect:

www.epikproject.org

https://www.signifyconsultingak.org/

In this episode of The Masculine Wilderness Podcast, Kristen Hubbell—former FBI agent and founder of Prevention Now—shares her extraordinary journey from federal law enforcement to leading one of the most innovative organizations in the fight against human trafficking.

Kristen reveals why justice without empathy falls short, why collaboration across communities is non-negotiable, and how technology—from big data to artificial intelligence—is reshaping what prevention can look like. Her insights challenge us to think differently about exploitation, not only as a criminal issue but as a human one that requires humility, curiosity, and shared responsibility.

And for men listening, this conversation is especially urgent: Kristen offers a direct call to action for how men can step into leadership, accountability, and advocacy in the fight to protect the vulnerable.

This episode isn’t just about trafficking—it’s about redefining justice for a new era.

00:00 Introduction to the Masculine Wilderness Podcast

01:03 Kristin Hubbell’s Journey into Anti-Violence Work

03:38 Evolving Understanding of Justice

05:35 Responsibility for Justice

07:18 Transition from FBI to Anti-Trafficking Work

10:53 Founding Prevention Now

14:10 The Importance of Collaboration

15:10 Data as a Storytelling Tool

18:03 Empathy in Law Enforcement

22:13 Integrating Collaboration in Anti-Trafficking Work

26:57 Collaborative Efforts Against Human Trafficking

28:51 Utilizing Data for Community Collaboration

32:13 Understanding Risk Factors in Human Trafficking

36:18 The Role of Technology and AI in Prevention

44:06 Empathy and Understanding in Addressing Exploitation

47:55 Defining Prevention in the Anti-Trafficking Movement

🎧 Listen now and discover how empathy, collaboration, and innovation can transform the fight against trafficking.

Let’s Connect:

🌐 Learn more about Kristin’s work: www.prevention-now.org

🌐 Explore the movement to disrupt exploitation: www.epikproject.org

In this powerful episode of The Masculine Wilderness Podcast, Kathy Bryan, founder of The Genesis Project and a survivor of human trafficking, opens up about the long, courageous road from survival to leadership. With unflinching honesty, Kathy shares what it truly means to become an advocate while still carrying the emotional residue of past trauma.

This conversation goes far beyond statistics or headlines. It’s a deep dive into the realities of trafficking across urban and rural communities and the nuanced challenges survivors face when their stories become public tools for change. Kathy doesn’t just share her experience; she issues a call to action.

You’ll hear about the critical role parents play in prevention, why traffickers are targeting increasingly younger children, and how digital culture has transformed the landscape of exploitation. Kathy offers practical, heartfelt advice for families navigating a world that often feels out of control and reveals what true connection looks like between parents and children.

This episode is a gut-check, a guide, and a testament to the power of resilience. If you want to understand the human side of trafficking and how to make a real difference, start here.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the Masculine Wilderness Podcast

01:36 Kathy's Journey: From Trafficking to Advocacy

09:31 The Cost of Sharing a Survivor's Story

14:49 The Genesis Project: Building Futures

22:22 Understanding Trafficking in Rural Communities

24:54 Statistics and Myths Surrounding Trafficking

28:26 Understanding the Risks: A Shocking Reality

31:07 Empowering Parents: Navigating Safety in a Digital World

33:49 The Harsh Truth: Child Trafficking vs. Other Dangers

36:38 Breaking the Silence: The Stigma of Sex Trafficking

41:08 The Role of Men: Accountability and Cultural Change

47:39 Survivor Perspectives: The Emotional Toll of Injustice

50:45 Practical Advice for Parents: Engaging with Your Children

52:10 Masculine Wilderness Theme.mp3

Let's Connect:

www.epikproject.org

https://thegenesisproject.life

https://www.instagram.com/simplykathy/, https://www.instagram.com/thegenesisprojectlife/ https://www.facebook.com/simplykathy/ https://www.facebook.com/thegenesisprojectlife

In this intimate and soul-stirring episode of The Masculine Wilderness Podcast, Andrew Carruthers invites us into a conversation many men never get to have about shame, emotional expression, and the quiet longing for authenticity. A former hairdresser turned Wayfinder, Andrew has spent years helping others navigate their emotional terrain, and now he’s sharing the raw truths and hard-earned wisdom that shape his work.

Together, Andrew and Tom explore the cost of silence in men’s lives, the weight of unspoken guilt, the armor of stoicism, and the stories that keep us from fully showing up. But this isn't a conversation about what’s wrong with men. It's a powerful reckoning with what’s possible for men: real emotional presence, radical self-awareness, and a return to community.

They go deep on the cultural rise of men’s work, not as a trend, but as a response to crisis. Andrew speaks directly to young men craving purpose, connection, and a path toward wholeness. His message is clear: you are not broken but must be brave enough to meet yourself.

If you're ready to drop the mask and step into something deeper, this episode will challenge you, inspire you, and leave you feeling less alone.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Masculine Wilderness Podcast

01:10 Andrew Carruthers: The Wayfinder Journey

03:19 From Hairdressing to Coaching: A Personal Evolution

09:49 Understanding the Clientele: Leaders and Educators

14:39 Masculine Mythology: Shaping Identity and Work

18:35 Emotional Presence: Challenges for Men

24:45 The Role of Shame in Men's Lives

25:36 The Cycle of Shame and Confirmation Bias

26:57 The Power of Men's Groups

29:09 Cultural Expectations of Masculinity

31:22 The Evolution of Men's Work

33:31 Emotional Expression in Older Generations

36:38 Tools for Emotional Awareness

39:20 Difficult Conversations for Older Men

41:47 Rites of Passage and the Role of Elders

45:01 The Openness of Younger Generations

47:21 Finding Enoughness and Community Support

49:14 New Chapter

Let's Connect:

www.epikproject.org

www.outofstep.life

Donate: www.epikproject.org/donate

In this gripping and deeply personal episode of The Masculine Wilderness Podcast, Penny Ronning—leader of the Yellowstone Anti-Trafficking Task Force—shares a raw and unfiltered look at the realities of commercial sexual exploitation and why men must be part of the solution.

Through the lens of her own family’s history—marked by her mother’s survival of childhood trauma—Penny opens a powerful dialogue on how generational wounds shape us, and how storytelling can become a lifeline for healing. This isn’t just a policy conversation—it’s a human one.

Together, Penny and Tom tackle the uncomfortable questions many avoid: What does it mean to be a man in a world where children are sold for sex? How can we hold space for both accountability and empathy? And what kind of leadership does it take to dismantle an industry built on silence?

They explore the urgent need for cultural shifts, community-based solutions, and legislative change—but more importantly, they underscore why men’s voices are essential in this movement. This episode is a rallying cry for courageous leadership, emotional honesty, and relentless compassion.

If you care about protecting the most vulnerable, if you believe that healing is possible, and if you're ready to face hard truths with an open heart, this episode is your invitation.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Masculinity and Healing

02:40 Penny Ronning's Journey and Background

05:59 The Impact of Trauma on Lives

11:37 Legislation and Advocacy for Survivors

14:35 The Power of Storytelling in Healing

17:30 The Intersection of Art and Activism

24:05 Challenging Myths About Trafficking

29:15 Legislative Changes in Montana

33:58 Understanding the Demand for Exploitation

36:10 Collaborative Efforts Against Exploitation

37:22 The Role of Men in Addressing Exploitation

40:32 Empowering Voices in the Conversation

43:39 Humanity at the Core of the Issue

46:31 Community Solutions to a Societal Problem

50:15 Cultural Change and Responsibility

52:44 Mobilizing Male Allies

55:39 Leadership and Courage in Advocacy

Let's Connect:

www.epikproject.org

Instagram: @pennyronning

LinkedIn: Penny Ronning on LinkedIn

Ted Talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czwA-IY89R8&t=657s

This conversation dives deep into the undercurrent of grievance politics—how a generation of disillusioned young men is being radicalized by influencers like Andrew Tate, and what that says about the state of modern manhood. But this isn’t a takedown—it’s an excavation. What’s missing in the lives of these men? What’s the void they’re trying to fill? And how can society respond without shame or silence?

The conversation doesn’t shy away from the emotional labor men have long suppressed—or the toll that takes on women and communities. Instead, it offers a bold vision for healing: grounded in relational intelligence, responsibility, and the courage to redefine what strength actually looks like.

This episode is a wake-up call, a roadmap, and a challenge. If you're a man searching for meaning, a parent raising sons, or someone who simply wants to understand the cultural reckoning happening right now—press play.

This is the conversation we all need to be having.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Masculine Wilderness Podcast

01:52 The Rise of Male Supremacy and Online Radicalization

05:23 Grievance Politics and Its Historical Roots

12:25 The Impact of Rapid Social Change on Masculinity

15:44 Current Masculine Currents: Male Supremacy, Misogyny, and Isolation

23:24 The Impact of Masculinity on Self-Perception

29:24 Isolation and Emotional Labor in Male Relationships

35:27 The Influence of Andrew Tate and Male Supremacy

40:00 Building Healthier Masculinity: Solutions and Strategies

51:45 Masculine Wilderness Theme.mp3

Let's Connect:

www.epikproject.org

www.instagram.org/epik_project

https://perilresearch.com/team/pasha-dashtgard/

Toni doesn't just talk about trauma—she’s lived it, studied it, and transformed it into powerful leadership. Together, Tom and Toni unpack what trauma actually does to the brain, how memory is affected by abuse, and why traditional approaches to healing often fall short. But this conversation isn’t about theory—it’s about what it takes to rebuild your life from the ground up and why safe, supportive housing is absolutely essential for recovery.

And for the men listening—this one is especially for you. Toni speaks directly to the heart of what it means to be a man in today’s world. She challenges the cultural narratives that silence men emotionally and shares actionable tools for self-reflection, emotional growth, and healing generational wounds. They explore how men can show up—truly show up—for their families, their partners, and themselves.

This episode will shift your perspective on trauma, leadership, and the real meaning of resilience. If you’ve ever wondered how to break cycles of pain and step into a role of healing and leadership, this is your blueprint.

Warning: This conversation might just change the way you see yourself.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Magdalen House and Its Mission

03:00 Understanding the Need for Supportive Housing

05:57 The Impact of Trauma on Survivors

09:07 Toni's Personal Journey and Healing Process

11:55 The Science of Trauma and Its Effects

14:49 Navigating Trauma Responses

18:01 Resilience and Recovery from Trauma

21:06 The Importance of Understanding Trauma

24:06 Toni's Story and the Power of Narrative

30:54 Understanding Trauma and Memory

32:31 The Importance of Relationships in Healing

34:54 Community and Connection: Healing Together

35:42 Navigating Relationships Post-Trauma

40:14 The Role of Men in Healing and Relationships

45:01 Men and Trauma: Breaking the Cycle

51:27 Agency in Healing: Taking Responsibility

54:07 Advice for Men: Healing Starts at Home

Let's Connect:

www.epikproject.org

https://www.magdaleneaustin.org

https://www.tonimckinley.com/

Instagram:

@MagdaleneATX

@Toni_Adventures1

Facebook:

MagdaleneATX on Facebook

LinkedIn:

Toni McKinley on LinkedIn

Magdalene House of Austin on LinkedIn

Together, they explore the growing wave of young leaders stepping up to drive cultural change, the vital role of men in reshaping narratives around exploitation, and the responsibility of older generations to support and uplift the next wave of advocates. This conversation isn’t just about the problem—it’s about the solutions, the hope, and the momentum building in the fight for justice.

Packed with raw insights, inspiring success stories, and hard-hitting truths, this episode is a must-listen for anyone looking to understand how we can dismantle systems of harm and create a future rooted in empowerment and human connection. Don’t miss the closing reflections on self-care, resilience, and why no advocate should have to walk this path alone.

Tune in now—this is a conversation that could change everything.

Chapters:

00:00 Introduction to the Masculine Wilderness Podcast

01:03 Understanding the Work of World Without Exploitation and My Friends Are Not For Sale

02:54 Personal Journeys into Advocacy

05:59 The Intersection of Sustainability and Social Justice

11:28 Mobilizing Youth Against Exploitation

14:43 The Role of Peer-to-Peer Education

18:52 Success Stories in Advocacy

25:26 The Impact of Direct Human Connection

27:31 The Influence of Andrew Tate on Young Men

34:16 Young Men Advocating Against Misogyny

40:13 Supporting Youth in the Fight Against Exploitation

47:26 Finding Life Beyond Advocacy

50:20 Masculine Wilderness Theme

Let's Connect:

www.epikproject.org

www.epikrpoject.org/myfriendsarenotforsale

www.worldwithoutexploitation.org

www.worldwithoutexploitation.org/youth

They explore how sports shape character, the pressures of athletic culture, and the pivotal moments that define Ashton’s path. He opens up about personal loss, the importance of community, and the values that guide him as a husband and father. With reflections on his relationship with his wife, Aisha, and his hopes for his children’s future, Ashton shares hard-won lessons on love, respect, and the power of showing up for others.

This episode is a must-listen for anyone navigating life’s transitions, seeking wisdom on raising the next generation or looking for inspiration on turning challenges into growth.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Masculine Wilderness Podcast

01:20 Ashton's Journey: From Student to Counselor

03:52 Formative Experiences of Manhood

09:43 The Impact of Sports on Character

14:42 Transitioning to College Football

21:30 Navigating College Sports Culture

28:19 Transitioning from Athletics to Life Beyond

32:39 Facing Tragedy and Finding Purpose

35:40 The Importance of Brotherhood and Community

41:03 Love and Relationships: A Journey with Aisha

46:34 Parenting with Intent: Values and Lessons

49:02 Challenges Facing Today's Youth

53:00 Hopes for the Future: Raising Respectful Children

Let's Connect:

www.epikproject.org

Together with host Tom Perez, Gene unpacks the hidden wounds of childhood trauma, the isolating nature of shame, and how modern society’s shifting landscape affects men’s emotional well-being. This conversation dives deep into the generational patterns of disconnection, the societal pressures that keep men from seeking help, and the essential role of authentic relationships in personal growth.

If you’ve ever struggled with your past or questioned how to foster healthier relationships, this episode is for you. Tune in as Gene and Tom explore the power of storytelling, the necessity of safe spaces for vulnerability, and the profound impact men can have when they choose to heal and lead with courage.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Healing Journeys

02:17 Expanding Impact and Influence

05:44 The Path to Redemption

08:13 Childhood Trauma and Its Effects

12:28 The Destructive Cycle of Shame

14:25 Turning Point: A Moment of Clarity

18:51 The Power of Connection and Love

22:51 Reflections on Change Over Time

28:33 Navigating Modern Challenges

32:51 The Power of Intimacy and Connection

34:10 Disconnection in a Connected World

35:08 Generational Perspectives on Shame

36:05 Youth and Vulnerability: A New Approach

39:30 Authenticity and Safe Spaces for Healing

41:07 The Impact of Storytelling in Redemption

43:53 Addressing the Demand: The Why Behind Actions

48:55 Creating Change Through Accountability

52:46 Empowering the Next Generation of Men

57:50 Sustaining Personal Well-Being in Challenging Work

Let's Connect:

www.epikproject.org

www.authenticrelationshipsint.com

In this gripping episode of The Masculine Wilderness Podcast, Tom sits down with Ryan McCullough, a dedicated cyber-patrol volunteer for Epik since 2017. Ryan takes us behind the scenes of digital operations that disrupt trafficking networks, sharing the raw reality of what it takes to confront this issue head-on.

They explore:

🔥 The surprising role of empathy in combating trafficking

🔥 The evolving landscape of sex buying and online exploitation

🔥 How fatherhood and masculinity shape Ryan’s perspective on advocacy

🔥 The importance of men building deep community to drive real change

This conversation challenges the traditional narrative around trafficking and offers a powerful call to action for men who want to make a difference. If you’re ready to rethink what it means to protect and lead, this episode is a must-listen.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the Masculine Wilderness Podcast

02:44 Understanding Cyber Patrols and Their Purpose

06:29 The Journey to Empathy in Addressing Trafficking

11:15 First Experiences in Cyber Patrols

13:50 The Importance of Team Dynamics in Patrols

16:38 Changes in the Sex Buying Culture

21:50 Conversations with Buyers: Troubling and Hopeful Stories

27:12 The Importance of Human Connection

31:57 Men Supporting Men: The Power of Positive Reinforcement

34:55 Cultural Narratives and the Fight Against Sex Trafficking

40:15 Fatherhood and Its Impact on Advocacy

47:39 Processing Experiences: Emotional and Spiritual Reflections

51:08 Life Beyond Patrol: Finding Balance and Community

54:18 Encouraging Active Participation in Society

55:58 Introduction and Gratitude

56:07 Masculine Wilderness Theme.

Let's Connect:

www.epikproject.org

Chapters:

00:00 Introduction to the Conversation

01:32 Elizabeth Scaife's Journey in Anti-Trafficking

07:07 Formative Experiences in the Field

16:01 Evolution of the Anti-Trafficking Movement

25:53 Current Challenges and Future Directions

32:38 The Action Hero Myth

34:00 Engaging Men in Social Change

36:06 Mentorship as a Tool Against Trafficking

37:30 Redefining Heroism

39:27 The Importance of Survivor Voices

40:22 Creating Resources for Awareness

43:51 The Role of Survivor Stories

47:21 Navigating Survivor Narratives

50:54 Self-Care in Advocacy

54:58 Advice for Men in Advocacy

Let's Connect:

FYN Global: https://www.findyournorthglobal.com/

Books by Survivors Guide: https://www.findyournorthglobal.com/resourcelibrary

Grit Conference: https://uprisingwyo.org/grit/

Epik Project: https://www.epikproject.org/

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Masculine Wilderness Podcast

01:22 Overview of the 'Buyers Unmasked' Report

06:00 Insights from Sex Buyers' Review Boards

11:49 The Disturbing Reality of Sex Buyers

20:39 Response to the Report and Its Impact

24:49 Challenging Myths About Sex Buyers

28:25 Promoting Healthy Relationships and Gender Equality

29:28 Understanding Objectification and Fetishization

31:33 The Connection Between Racism and Misogyny

34:44 Violence and Exploitation in the Sex Trade

37:49 Innovative Solutions and Recommendations

44:24 Policy Approaches to Prostitution and Trafficking

48:51 Engaging Men as Allies in the Fight for Equality

Let's Connect:

www.epikproject.org

www.rights4girls.org

Buyers Unmasked Report: https://rights4girls.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Buyers-Unmasked.pdf

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the Podcast and Guest

01:30 Irene Taylor: A Filmmaker's Journey

04:41 The Power of Storytelling in Film

08:59 Exploring Diverse Film Projects

12:21 Addressing Sensitive Topics Through Film

16:20 The Importance of Open-Ended Questions

22:06 Gender Dynamics in Storytelling

25:51 Creating Vulnerability Through Attention

28:54 The Power of Presence and Attention

31:09 Vulnerability: The Human Connection

36:10 Navigating Trauma and Empathy

43:53 The Journey to Filmmaking and Storytelling

49:11 Love as the Foundation for Growth

Let's Connect

www.epikproject.org

https://vermilionfilms.com/

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the Masculine Wilderness Podcast

01:07 Life After Football: Transitioning to Financial Advising

03:27 Family Dynamics: The Joys of Grandparenting

06:54 The Journey to the NFL: From Underdog to Super Bowl Champion

12:40 The Super Bowl Experience: Memories and Expectations

16:07 Building a Positive Locker Room Culture

18:40 The Reality of Locker Room Talk and Team Dynamics

24:10 Humility and Confidence in Professional Sports

28:29 The Art of Trash Talk in Football

30:54 The Pre-Game Mindset of Professional Athletes

32:43 Injuries and Resilience in a Football Career

34:32 The Difference Between Raw Power and Useful Strength

36:32 Teamwork: Lessons from the Field to Life

39:57 The Importance of Male Relationships

41:17 Fatherhood and Identity Transformation

46:22 Instilling Values in the Next Generation

48:26 Finding Joy Beyond Football

51:40 Hope for the Next Generation of Men

55:42 Defining True Manhood

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Chapters:

00:00 Introduction to Masculine Wilderness Podcast

01:39 Tina Taylor Sims: A Personal Journey

04:44 Addressing Human Trafficking in Humboldt County

10:24 Understanding Survivor Experiences

14:52 Community Collaboration Against Trafficking

18:03 The Intersection of MMIW and Trafficking

22:54 Vulnerabilities in Indigenous Communities

25:18 Vulnerability and Exploitation in Foster Care

26:16 Cultural Connection and Resilience in Indigenous Communities

28:09 The Healing Power of Tradition and Belonging

30:36 The Significance of Tattoos in Cultural Identity

32:23 The Irony of Belonging and Isolation

34:14 Learning and Borrowing from Other Cultures

38:52 Cultural Competency and Asking Questions

41:23 Going Long and Deep in the Fight Against Exploitation

46:48 Encouragement for Men to Support Vulnerable Individuals

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the Masculine Wilderness Podcast

06:02 The Scope of Familial Trafficking

11:55 The Impact of Early Trauma

18:00 The Reluctance to Acknowledge Familial Trafficking

23:53 The Role of Community in Prevention

29:59 Building Awareness and Response Strategies

36:25 Community Awareness and Child Safety

49:03 Resilience and Building Support Systems

55:22 Recognizing Signs of Familial Trafficking

01:02:18 Empowering Teachers and Parents for Child Protection

Let's Connect

www.epikproject.org

https://youbelongllc.com/

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the Masculine Wilderness Podcast

06:01 Military Influence: Discipline and Leadership

12:06 The Power of Teamwork in the Railroad Industry

18:07 The Call to Action: Involvement in Anti-Human Trafficking

24:00 Figueroa: A Hub of Human Trafficking

30:00 Conclusion: Strength, Power, and Purpose

36:18 Challenges in Law Enforcement and Prosecution

43:00 The Role of Healthy Male Relationships

50:04 Haunting Encounters with Buyers

01:01:25 The Importance of Conversations

01:07:25 Encouraging the Next Generation

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Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the Masculine Wilderness Podcast

02:21 Helen Taylor's Journey into Advocacy

09:53 The Impact of Personal Experiences on Advocacy

15:43 Outreach During the Super Bowl: A Case Study

23:13 Advocacy on Capitol Hill: Challenges and Triumphs

30:01 The Intersection of Pornography and Trafficking

36:13 The Dark Intersections of Pornography and Trafficking

39:46 Outreach in the Porn Industry: A Covert Mission

43:46 The Emotional Toll of Advocacy Work

47:51 Faith and Advocacy: Navigating Complex Spaces

56:25 Humanizing the Exploiters: A Path to Redemption

Let's Connect

www.epikproject.org

www.exoduscry.org

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Masculine Wilderness Podcast

01:03 Lauren Hirsch and World Without Exploitation

03:23 The Importance of Prevention in Exploitation

05:44 Family Life and Personal Motivation

09:01 The Role of Boys in Exploitation

10:38 Understanding World Without Exploitation

11:49 Legislative Initiatives and Survivor Model

20:20 Current Landscape of Anti-Trafficking Movement

24:34 The Power of Survivor Voices

30:55 Supporting Survivors in Advocacy

32:19 Breaking Free from Criminal Convictions

35:14 The Power of Survivor Stories

40:10 Community Education and Awareness

44:28 Engaging Young People in Conversations

51:17 The Importance of Authenticity in Leadership

Let's Connect:

www.epikproject.org

www.worldwithoutexploitation.org

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the Masculine Wilderness Podcast

01:58 The Journey of an Artist: Michelle Boucher

06:02 Exploring the Intersection of Beauty and Trauma

11:58 The Importance of Being Present

17:57 Creative Process and Nature's Influence

23:54 Naming Beauty: A Personal Practice

29:55 Finding Calm Amidst Chaos

31:14 The Beauty in Contradiction

35:11 Art and Activism: A Personal Journey

41:32 Using Passion for Purpose

45:30 Experiencing Beauty in Nature

51:00 Mindfulness and Presence

56:45 Hope and Support in Challenging Times

Let's Connect:

www.epikproject.org

www.foxheartart.com

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the Masculine Wilderness Podcast

02:07 Esther Garrett's Journey as a Victim Advocate

05:58 Navigating the Emotional Landscape of Advocacy

09:18 The Role of Education in Advocacy

10:54 Understanding Safety Planning in Advocacy

12:41 The Cycle of Violence and Returning to Exploiters

15:23 Connecting Domestic Violence and Sexual Exploitation

19:35 The Work of Safety Compass and Its Origins

23:34 Call-Out Scenarios in Crisis Response

28:49 The Power of Collaboration in Interviews

30:13 Redefining the Action Hero Narrative

33:40 Vulnerability and Authenticity in Relationships

36:57 The Role of Unconditional Love

39:36 The Importance of Healthy Relationships

42:51 Understanding Vicarious Trauma

45:52 Building Healthy Friendships Across Gender

52:29 Finding Beauty in the Work

54:45 Encouragement for Men in Advocacy

Let's Connect

www.epikproject.org

www.safetycompass.org

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the Masculine Wilderness Podcast

02:54 The Narrative Project: Helping Writers Find Their Voice

06:57 The Challenge of Writing: Confronting Inner Critics

09:08 Understanding Trauma in Storytelling

15:03 Cami's Journey: From Pain to Purpose

19:46 The Essence of Narrative Therapy

22:14 The Transformative Power of Writing

25:20 Gender Dynamics in Writing and Therapy

28:35 Understanding Gender Differences in Therapy

36:07 The Impact of Vulnerability and Trust

43:42 The Power of Storytelling in Masculinity

50:54 Encouragement for Men to Share Their Stories

Let's Connect:

The Narrative Project: https://www.thenarrativeproject.net/

Epik Project: https://www.epikproject.org/

00:00 Introduction to David Bennett and His Mission

02:45 David's Personal Journey and Family Life

05:57 Awareness and Action Against Human Trafficking

09:57 The Impact of Patrols on Personal Life

12:52 Navigating Conversations with Children

15:41 Understanding the Buyers: A Deeper Look

19:41 The Shift from Backpage to Direct Outreach

22:55 Building Community Among Men

26:42 The Role of Faith in the Fight Against Trafficking

30:41 Conversations with Buyers: A Transformative Approach

30:54 Empathy in Action: The Power of Prayer

32:38 Realizations and Accountability: A Journey of Change

34:30 Building Trust: The Importance of Non-Judgmental Support

37:38 Understanding Anger: A Personal Reflection

39:27 The Role of Shame: Breaking the Cycle

41:55 Men's Work: A Unique Opportunity for Transformation

45:39 Community Support: The Church's Role in Combatting Demand

49:44 Live Operations: Engaging with Law Enforcement

52:35 Self-Care: Finding Balance in Challenging Work

56:55 A Vision for the Future: Raising Respectful Men

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Chapters:

00:00 Introduction to Generative Men and Creativity

03:05 The Artistic Ethos in Trades

05:55 The Value of Craftsmanship and Beauty

09:01 The Conflict of Creativity and Exploitation

12:12 Exploring the Duality of Paul Blais

15:02 The Journey of a Potter

17:57 Adapting to Change: Creativity After Loss

20:59 The Nature of Creativity and Problem Solving

24:06 The Intersection of Creativity and Beauty

27:13 The Role of Feedback in Artistic Growth

29:59 Cultivating Creativity in Everyday Life

32:58 The Importance of Beauty in Life

36:09 Experiencing Beauty: Personal Reflections

38:47 The Impact of Trauma on Creativity

41:56 The Role of Gender in Creativity

44:55 Beauty and Creativity in Midlife

48:09 The Legacy of Creativity in Family

51:01 The Absence of Creativity and Its Consequences

54:01 Finding Irony and Beauty in Life

56:58 Final Thoughts on Beauty and Creativity

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In this episode of the Masculine Wilderness podcast, host Tom Perez engages in a profound conversation with Jewell Baraka, a survivor advocate and author. They discuss the complexities of human trafficking, particularly in the context of the porn industry, and the importance of understanding trauma and its long-lasting effects. Jewell shares her personal story of being trafficked at a young age, the challenges of self-identification as a survivor, and the critical need for empathy and awareness in addressing these issues. The conversation emphasizes the significance of storytelling in healing and the necessity of recognizing the humanity of those involved in the sex industry.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the Masculine Wilderness Podcast

02:21 Understanding Human Trafficking and Advocacy

05:52 The Importance of Defining Trafficking

10:40 The Impact of Trauma and Existential Prisons

12:32 The Journey from Abuse to Exploitation

14:39 Familial Trafficking and Its Hidden Nature

18:14 The Desire to Be Seen and Its Consequences

20:45 The Transactional Nature of the Sex Industry

23:39 The Shift from Brothel to Porn Studio

26:50 The Reality of Violence in Pornography

30:52 The Aftermath of Exploitation and Trauma

33:35 The Role of Writing in Healing

37:41 Fear and Power Dynamics in the Porn Industry

40:46 Awakening and the Fight for Survival

43:27 The Destruction of Identity in Pornography

46:15 The Intersection of Trafficking and Pornography

50:01 Ethical Porn and Human Rights

54:11 The Moment of Realization and Its Impact

57:57 The Healing Journey and Its Challenges

01:01:30 The Power of Poetry in Healing

01:03:25 Connecting with Other Survivors

01:06:44 Seeking Justice and Accountability

01:09:18 The Importance of Sharing Stories

01:12:06 Final Thoughts and Encouragement

Lets Connect:

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Jewell's book: https://www.thriftbooks.com/a/jewell-baraka/11092912/

Ty goes over both the wins and the challenges of getting male volunteers and buyers involved, stressing how important it is to approach things with empathy and accountability. They also dig into the cultural roots of exploitation, how recent laws have made a big difference, and the importance of building healthy male communities to drive change. Ty wraps up by talking about how he’s raising his own sons to value care and responsibility, and gives advice for both younger and older generations who want to get involved in this important work.

About Ty Bowden:

A Fort Worth native and TCU political science grad, Ty hasn’t had to go very far to pursue his passions. After starting volunteer work with The Net in 2013 while at TCU, Ty is now the Associate Director, where he oversees the MASE Program and keeps things running smoothly behind the scenes. Ty is passionate about bringing men to the fight for justice in Fort Worth and across the country. 

A leader in the demand disruption movement in Texas, Ty has trained hundreds of men to engage and disrupt potential sex buyers over the last several years, as well as personally interacted with thousands of buyers. When he’s not at his desk or leading a training, Ty is either cheering on the Horned Frogs, out chasing wild turkeys, or drinking a glass of wine and reading a book on his Fairmount front porch, accompanied by his wife Sarah, son Shepherd, and their dog Camp.

CHAPTERS:

00:00 Introduction to the Masculine Wilderness Podcast

00:07 Meet Ty Bowden: A Generative Man

01:04 Ty's Background and Work with The Net

02:28 The Early Days of MACE and Demand Reduction

06:37 The Start of Online Patrols

14:19 Real-Life Disruptions and Early Challenges

17:38 Generational Perspectives on Anti-Trafficking Work

24:42 The Role of Faith and Community in the Mission

27:37 Personal Reflections on Engaging with Buyers

28:26 Texas' Unique Legal Approach to Prostitution

29:23 Impact of the New Law on Buyers and Law Enforcement

31:03 Challenges and Realities of Buyer Deterrence

33:44 Understanding the Motivations of Buyers

37:48 Balancing Empathy and Accountability

44:23 Family Dynamics in Anti-Trafficking Work

47:49 Hopes for Future Generations and Encouragement for Older Men

51:59 Podcast Conclusion and Acknowledgements

Ruth opens up about raising three boys, the impact of the Me Too movement, and the big cultural changes needed to raise emotionally healthy boys. Tom and Ruth also touch on the political divide around masculinity and why empathy and understanding are key in these discussions. They even explore Ruth’s interviews with young boys, talking about how social pressures shape both younger and older men. The episode wraps up with some great insights on how we can create a culture where men can fully embrace who they are.

CHAPTERS

00:00 Introduction to the Masculine Wilderness Podcast

00:25 Meet Ruth Whitman: Author of Boy Mom

01:45 The Impact of the Me Too Movement

05:34 Exploring Patriarchy and Masculinity

07:21 Raising Boys: Challenges and Reflections

24:26 Feedback and Cultural Reactions

27:45 Navigating Political Triggers

28:33 Personal Reflections on Parenting Sons

29:12 The Impact of Having Sons on Political Views

29:50 Deciding to Have a Third Boy

31:25 Exploring the Political Divide on Masculinity

33:00 Fears and Realities of Raising Boys

33:41 Engaging with the Incel Community

36:39 The Emotional Struggles of Men and Boys

40:19 Personal Stories of Masculine Expectations

46:26 Encouragement for Men to Change

52:08 Hopes for the Future Generation

53:15 Conclusion and Resources

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CHAPTERS

00:00 Introduction to the Masculine Wilderness Podcast

00:27 Introducing John Richmond: A Leader in Anti-Trafficking

00:59 John Richmond’s Career Journey and Impact

03:14 A Conversation with John Richmond: Personal Insights

06:28 Balancing Family and a Demanding Career

10:28 Challenges and Lessons in Anti-Trafficking Work

15:54 The Role of Law and Justice in Combating Trafficking

29:08 Cultural and Philosophical Perspectives on Human Dignity

30:10 The Value of Human Dignity

31:01 Cultural Crisis and Human Dignity

32:13 Selfishness and Narcissism

33:42 Hope for Cultural Change

35:14 Flourishing in Community

37:36 Parenting and Community Building

48:12 Dealing with Trauma and Pain

53:08 Life-Giving Practices

54:41 Final Thoughts and Reflections

About our Guest, John Richmond

John Richmond is an American attorney and diplomat. From 2018 to 2021, Richmond served as the U.S. Ambassador-at-Large to Monitor and Combat Trafficking in Persons. He currently works as Chief Impact Officer at Atlas Free.[2] He also serves as president of the Libertas Council, a leadership community focused on combating human trafficking, advancing democracy, and affirming human dignity.

Before becoming CIO at Atlas Free, John joined International Justice Mission and relocated to Chennai, India where he served as the Field Office Director for South India. Richmond pioneered IJM’s work to identify human trafficking victims, provide the victim’s protection services, and support the government as it held the traffickers accountable.

After that, John was sworn in as a federal prosecutor with the U.S. Department of Justice’s Civil Rights Division’s Criminal Section. He was a founding member of the Department’s Human Trafficking Prosecution Unit. Richmond prosecuted police misconduct, hate crimes, and labor and sex trafficking crimes.

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They explore the impact of being vulnerable, having real friendships, and the importance of a supportive community. Tune in to hear Tom, Ian, and Chris discuss how male friendships, shared passions, and the courage to open up about mental health can be life-changing.

Special thanks to our sponsor, Hinton Development

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CHAPTERS:

00:00 Introduction to the Masculine Wilderness Podcast

00:20 Meet Ian and Chris: Motorcycle Buddies on a Mission

03:45 The Journey of Pancakes: From Darkness to Advocacy

05:21 The Birth of Get Lost, Find Yourself Rally

08:28 The Power of Friendship: Ian and Chris's Bond

11:56 Ian's Story: Struggles and Triumphs

29:38 The Healing Power of Motorcycles

37:30 Adventure and Dual Sport Riders

37:49 Street Riders and Their Stereotypes

38:37 Camaraderie Among Bikers

42:08 Women in the Motorcycle World

43:56 First Motorcycle Experiences

45:38 Building a Supportive Community

52:48 The Power of Vulnerability

58:21 Final Thoughts and Advice

01:09:25 Podcast Outro and Credits

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Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background of Curtis Miller

03:12 The Power of Storytelling and Belonging

10:46 Personal Adventure and Pain: A Catalyst for Connection

11:14 Intersecting Lives and Work

14:05 Addressing Mental Health in the Construction Industry

17:28 The Role of Storytelling in Building Connection

19:22 The Power of Vulnerability and Connection

23:39 Creating Safe Spaces for Vulnerability

28:26 Personal Healing and Relationship Building through Storytelling

30:24 Youth Suicide Prevention and Community Collaboration

32:18 The Media's Role in Shaping Community Responses to Youth Suicide Contagions

32:46 The Power of Belonging and Connection

36:40 Creating a Caring Adult Network

44:12 From Harm Reduction to Health Promotion

50:22 Addressing the Root Causes of Harmful Behaviors

Quotes:

"Positive cultural change happens at the speed of relationships and relationships happen at the speed of trust."

"Sharing stories can create and inhabit a true experience of belonging."

"Connection and belonging are the key ingredients for individual, relational, organizational, communal, and systemic health."

"Kids are not experiencing belonging. This is not a kid problem. This is a social problem."

"The same culture that made sex buyers made me."

"It's scarier to be held accountable to your true self than it is to be."

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Takeaways:

• Gender inequities and discrimination exist worldwide, leading to vulnerability and exploitation, particularly for women and girls.
• Education and access to opportunities are crucial in addressing these issues and shaping the kind of men and boys we want to raise.
• Progress has been made in combating exploitation, but there is still work to be done.
• Exposing and holding platforms like Pornhub accountable for facilitating the exploitation of children is essential.
• Despite the challenges, there is hope in the resilience and courage of survivors and the potential for positive change.

Quotes:

"Being born female is just an inherent vulnerability."

"There should not be videos of 14-year-old girls posted on Pornhub so that a major internet company can monetize sexual assaults of underage girls."

Chapters:

00:00 Introduction and Background of Nicholas Kristof

04:14 From Vulnerability to Exploitation: Examples of Gender Inequities

16:15 Desired Outcomes: Shaping the Next Generation of Men

38:15 Exposing Pornhub: Consequences and the Call for Accountability

45:04 Progress and Hope: Resilience in the Face of Adversity

Links:

https://www.nytimes.com/column/nicholas-kristof

www.nytimes.com/kristof

https://time.com/6977053/nicholas-kristof-interview/

https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/chasing-hope-a-reporters-life_nicholas-d-kristof/39648808/?resultid=9e3d972b-d13f-4125-9324-af1ffcbad60d#edition=67965555&idiq=64928316

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In this conversation, Tom Perez speaks with Pasha Dashtgard, a researcher and expert on male supremacist ideology and its impact on society. They discuss the rise of male supremacist influencers like Andrew Tate and the role of technology in the proliferation of this ideology. They explore the factors that have contributed to the appeal of male supremacist ideas, including the reduction in the importance of religion and the lack of a developed discourse on masculinity. They also discuss the harmful effects of digitally mediated communication and the need for young men to develop a sense of self-worth and the ability to process trauma. The conversation concludes with a discussion on the importance of multiple masculinities and creating a society that allows men to be multifaceted.

Takeaways

The Manosphere is an interconnected network of blogs, websites, and influencers that promote male supremacist ideology. The Manosphere includes groups like men's rights activists, pickup artists, incels, and the red pill movement. Male supremacy is an ideology that posits that women, particularly feminists, are out to get men. Toxic masculinity is the policing, intimidation, and violence used against boys and men who step outside the hegemonic masculine ideal. Andrew Tate is a prominent figure in the Manosphere, but he is not unique and will likely be replaced by others promoting similar ideologies. Male supremacist influencers like Andrew Tate appeal to young men by acknowledging their struggles and offering a sense of self-worth. Technology, particularly social media algorithms, plays a significant role in the proliferation and reinforcement of male supremacist ideology. The reduction in the importance of religion and the lack of a developed discourse on masculinity have contributed to the appeal of male supremacist ideas. Digitally mediated communication lacks the connection and bond necessary for meaningful dialogue and can lead to aggression and hostility. To mitigate the harm faced by boys and young men, it is important to provide them with tools to process trauma and grievance in a healthy way. Creating a society that allows men to be multifaceted and embraces multiple masculinities is crucial in challenging male supremacist ideology.

Chapters

00:00 Exploring the Manosphere 26:02 The Different Groups within the Manosphere 27:57 Understanding Incels and the Black Pill 30:20 Distinct Ideologies within the Manosphere 32:46 Andrew Tate and the Influence of the Manosphere 33:15 The Appeal of Male Supremacist Influencers 36:40 The Role of Technology in the Proliferation of Male Supremacist Ideology 37:38 The Impact of Religion and the Lack of Discourse on Masculinity 41:55 The Harmful Effects of Digitally Mediated Communication 49:43 Mitigating Harm: Tools for Processing Trauma and Grievance 53:36 Embracing Multiple Masculinities: Challenging Male Supremacist Ideology

Quotes

"What is happening with, I don't, it's not exclusively young men, but primarily young men? The Manosphere is an interconnected network of blogs and websites and influencers and social media outlets that are all using this male supremacist ideology." "In cells are defined by a sort of hopelessness. So there's a term called the black pill, which is essentially this like, give up, you're never going to be loved."

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In this episode, we discuss Taina Bien-Aimé’s journey, human trafficking at national and global levels, its deeper roots and struggles, and the hope for change. Taina, with three decades of experience defending the rights of women and girls, is the executive director of the Coalition Against Trafficking in Women (CATW). CATW is a leading international organization dedicated to ending trafficking and commercial sex exploitation as forms of gender-based violence and discrimination. 

Before CATW, Taina was involved with Equality Now for 20 years, serving as a founding board member and later as executive director. She has also worked at HBO and practiced international corporate law at Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton. Taina holds a Juris Doctorate from NYU School of Law and a political science degree from the University of Geneva. Her work has earned her numerous awards, including being named one of the 2021 inaugural "Under 50 Women Who Have Made Social Impact." 

Note: This conversation touches on sexual violence, and while it’s never our goal to sensationalize the trauma of this topic, we strive to speak truthfully about the damage being done. 

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Resources Mentioned in the Episode

Correlation Against Trafficking in Women (CATW): https://catwinternational.org/

THE UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS: https://www.un.org/en/about-us/universal-declaration-of-human-rights

 Key Highlights From The Show:

• [00:01] Intro and a quick bio of the guest, Taina Bien-Aimé

• [04:53] Taina's background and how she got into this work  

• [12:45] The three key areas of CATW's work against trafficking women

• [17:23] A pivotal moment in Taina's career when she faced limitations

• [23:08] Why commercial sex exploitation is a harmful cultural practice

• [27:23] Exploitation of women and girls in the US Vs. other countries

• [32:52] Sexual exploitation in the US Vs. EU countries

• [35:29] Men that Tiana counts as strong partners in her work

• [40:25] Men’s responsibility towards the norms that perpetuate sexual exploitation

• [41:56] Tiana's perspective on the root of sexual exploitation and sex buying

• [35:34] The real road to end sexual exploitation, what needs to start and stop

• [48:30] The shoulders that Tiana stands on in the work that she does   

• [53:10] What keeps Tiana grounded and gives her life and energy

• [55:22] Tiana’s parting words to all men on equality

• [57:42] Wrap up and end of the show

• “From the time they are in grade school, girls are taught to be submissive sexually and boys are taught to dominate through the images and statements on social media and elsewhere creating cognitive dissonance.” - [21:09]

• “If you discriminate against a group of human beings for whatever reason, you are dehumanizing them and anything can be done to that group of people because you justify it.”- [23:54]

• “We profit from the sex trade so much because we don’t ask ourselves who is being bought, who is doing the buying, and who is getting harmed, it’s almost a form of femecide because we’re not interested in quantifying the harm.”- [31:08]

• “It’s not just the men who buy into the benign nature or inevitability of prostitution, we’re all in this together.”- [41:04]

• “Change can happen and does happen.”- [54:22]

• “We can never ever reach equality if sex buying is allowed, tolerated, and celebrated.”- [56:49]

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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/taina-bien-aim%C3%A9-2133238

In this episode with Justin Euteneier, we talk about how we came to this work at Epik, how it has impacted us as men, and the behind-the-scenes details of the work we do to stop men from purchasing sex at the point of sale.  As the director of the programs and resident sage at Epik, Justin Equips male civilians across the US to speak directly to the sex buyers at the point of sale, disrupt the culture of acceptance of exploitation, and seek areas of our lives as men where we can work toward creating a more equitable and flourishing culture.

Justin holds a master's degree in social justice from Kiln College. He has presented at the MIT counter-human trafficking workshop and has more than 10 years of experience in the anti-human trafficking movement. At the Epik project, Justin has designed and built an innovative buyer engagement platform that has led to over 200,000 purchase attempts disrupted from more than 100,000 active sex buyers in the US. He has done this by leading in all-volunteer male teams across the country. 

Note: This conversation touches on sexual violence, and while it’s never our goal to sensationalize the trauma of this topic, we strive to speak truthfully about the damage being done. 

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Resources Mentioned in the Episode

The Net Fort Worth: https://www.thenetfw.com/

Demand Abolition, ‘Who Buy Sex’: https://www.demandabolition.org/who-buys-sex/#

Mase program: https://www.thenetfw.com/mase

Key Highlights From The Show:

●      [00:01] Intro and a quick bio of the guest, Justin Euteneier

●      [03:52] Justin's backstory outside the work he does at Epik

●      [06:28] Justin’s perception of sexual exploitation early on in his journey

●      [11:18] About the cyber patrol program Justin has built at Epik 

●      [16:06] What Justin has learned being face-to-face with active sex buyers 

●      [17:51] Report from Demand Abolition, ‘Who Buy Sex’ research 

●      [21:27] The North Star of effectively changing sex buying culture 

●      [25:53] The nuances of the way men are in the world 

●      [28:30] Stories that prove to Justin they are making a difference 

●      [34:14] Why shaming the sex buyers does not work 

●      [41:29] How to show up as a collaborative and fighter

●      [44:33] Justin’s partner and heroes in collaboration and why they’re awesome 

●      [49:55] What Justin does outside his work that is life-giving 

●      [51:35] The world Justin envisions for his son and his peers

●      [55:41] Wrap up and end of the show

Standout Quotes:

●      “It’s critical for any man who cares about sexual exploitation to understand that sex buyers are not some gone off the cliff men; they are just like us.” - [16:13]

●      “More often than not, men that are calling looking to buy sex are not just looking for sexual transactions but human connection.”- [17:22]

●      “We can’t arrest our way out of the problem of sex trafficking; it’s a cultural problem; it’s a problem of male entitlement to purchase consent.”- [22:35]

●      “Driving sex buyers into shame is a short-term tool that’s going to cause more long-term harm in the end; it’s not effective in solving the real problem.”- [24:09]

●      “You don’t have to be an action hero to make a difference.”- [40:44]

Let’s Connect

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In today’s episode, Kirby Garry and Tom talk about the wider culture, the places that formed us as men, and how those experiences impact the way we raise our children. Kirby offers simple, profound, and hopeful advice on preparing the young generation of kids to show up and become the compassionate, resilient leaders of tomorrow

Entering his tenth year as Athletic Director and 16th overall at Cal State Monterey Bay, Kirby has played a role in shaping nearly every aspect of Otter Athletics as an NCAA DII intercollegiate athletics program. In the process, Kirby has emerged as nationally respected leader in athletics administration, becoming an influential voice on topics of leadership, student-athlete well-being, development, marketing, and social media.

Kirby provides leadership and support for the Otters’ 13 sports as well as the department’s more than 40 full and part-time administrative and coaching staff members. A native of Sioux Falls, South Dakota, Kirby was a football team captain and All-North Central Conference wide receiver at the University of North Dakota.

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Resources Mentioned in the Episode

World Without Exploitation: https://www.worldwithoutexploitation.org/

Key Highlights From The Show:

●      [00:01] Intro and a quick bio of the guest, Kirby Garry 

●      [05:22] Kirby's backstory and how he got to the place he is today 

●      [10:48] How Kirby’s wife’ a girl from California ended up in North Dakota 

●      [14:38] Kirby’s experience as a dad raising sons in today’s culture 

●      [16:45] How to cultivate empathy in your sons as a superpower 

●      [18:44] Differences in model and nurturing empathy in boys Vs. girls   

●      [19:43] Differences in cultivating empathy in teenagers Vs. younger kids

●      [21:08] How to be a better man and how Kirby helps men achieve their goal

●      [26:57] Kirby’s formative years and how the experience shaped his life 

●      [30:53] The pros and cons of growing up in a competitive environment

●      [39:03] Things that give Gary pause and hope in the world today 

●      [44:05] Being present and building your muscle for showing up for your sons 

●      [46:50] Life-giving things that fill Kirby up as a man 

●      [51:55] Kirby’s heart for men and the message he wants to pass to them

●      [55:04] Kirby’s final words of encouragement to young men

●      “With everything digital and amplified, high school and teenage years are hard enough, and preparing and positioning our sons to persist through these challenges when appropriate is critical.” - [15:54]

●      “A competitive environment is worthwhile for incremental results; keep showing up, putting in work, and getting the results.”- [32:06]

●      “Winning and losing in competition fades away quicker than you think; the connections you make and the person you become are the most important.”- [32:35]

●      “Joy is finding ways to express gratitude and continuously reminding our kids of what they have, not trying to dictate but to show up for them unconditionally.”- [40:47]

●      “Our kids can get caught up in the height of anxiety and amplified noise in our world; trying to get them out of that loop can help them be present.”- [44:53]

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Website: https://otterathletics.com/staff-directory/kirby-garry/4

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kirbygarry/?hl=en

Sexual abuse is a deeply entrenched issue within our community. However, the focus on the most extreme forms of sex trafficking can blind us from the pervasive reality of everyday sexual exploitation and violence that occur right in our backyard. While attention to extreme cases is crucial, it's equally important to address the more common forms of abuse that often go unnoticed. By acknowledging and confronting the prevalence of sexual violence within our community, we can take meaningful steps toward fighting human trafficking and creating a safe and better world. It's time to broaden our focus to encompass the entirety of the issue, recognizing that solving sexual violence starts right here, in our own neighborhoods, with a commitment to ending all forms of exploitation and abuse.

In this episode, Yasmin Vafa and Tomas discuss gender inequality, violence against women and girls, and child marriage in the United States and how they contribute to the larger system of exploitation and inequality. Yasmin is the founder and executive director of Rights4Girls, a national human rights organization dedicated to protecting marginalized young women and girls in the United States. Yasmin is an award-winning human rights lawyer and advocate. Her work focuses on the intersection of race, gender, violence, and law. As a nationally recognized expert on gender-based violence, 

Yasmin has successfully advocated for several laws at the federal and state levels. She has testified before the US Senate, state legislatures, and international human rights bodies. She has co-authored multiple reports detailing the over-criminalization of girls and young women of color, particularly the survivors of sexual violence. Yasmin and her work have been featured in the New York Times, Washington Post, Los Angeles Times, ABC News, National Public Radio, and more. She has served on the US advisory committee on the sex trafficking of children and youth and is adjunct faculty for the National Council of Juvenile Family Court Judges, where she leads the National Institute of Justice domestic child sex trafficking.

Note: This conversation touches on sexual violence, and while it’s never our goal to sensationalize the trauma of this topic, we strive to speak truthfully about the damage being done. 

Tune in!

Resources Mentioned in the Episode

Rights4Girls: https://rights4girls.org/

The Sexual Abuse to Prison Pipeline; The Girl’s Story: https://rights4girls.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/SexualAbusetoPrisonPipeline-Report.pdfRights4Girls Reports: https://rights4girls.org/reports/

Key Highlights From The Show:

• [00:01] Intro and a quick bio of the guest, Yasmin Vafa
• [04:17] Yasmin's journey that inspired her work at Rights4Girls
• [08:29] Human Rights Lens and what it means in Yasmin’s work
• [12:26] Yasmin's human rights approach to fighting human trafficking 
• [16:37] The prevalence of teen sexual violence and gender-based violence 
• [18:30] Marginalized girl’s gender-based violence and criminalization 
• [24:00] Adultification bias: Why there is no effective change in gender-based violence
• [28:24] What sex trafficking is and the kind of violent crime it is
• [33:18] The connection between child sex trafficking and other forms of gender-based violence
• [38:01] What we’re missing and the cost of seeing sex trafficking so narrowly

• [46:27] Fixing our backyard and Yasmin's achievement in getting 12 states to pass child marriage protection law
• [49:03] The difference between day-to-day lived experiences for boys vs. girls
• [56:26] One of the most harmful and hopeful trends in our culture today  
• [01: 00:27] Things that bring hope and life into Yasmin's life 
• [01:03:19] Yasmin's final words of encouragement to all men

Standout Quotes:

• “Every girl and every person has the right to live their full potential without any fear of violence, exploitation or any of these obstacles and barriers.” - [13:32]
• “The sexism and the racism that black and brown women experience get pushed to young girls of color because they have intersecting obstacles of age, race, and gender which compete to make them less valued, credible, and seeing.”- [24:15]
• “The focus on the most extreme forms of sex trafficking can blind us to the much more common everyday forms of sexual exploitation and sexual violence that are on the spectrum.”- [38:23]
• “We have a lot of issues right here, and there are a lot of girls in our community waiting for us to help them; we have a responsibility to improve and live up to the reputation that we hold for ourselves.”- [44:11]
• “Once girls start to be perceived, sexualized, and objectified by men, it’s when they start to feel unsafe, and this changes how they navigate life.”- [50:21]
• “The world would be a much better place if men could exercise more empathy.”- [01:06:16]

Let’s Connect 

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In this episode, we talk about human trafficking, abuse, and how the world is experienced differently by men and women. Lauren also shares her backstory and the insights she has learned in her journey as someone who has experienced abuse and how she has fought, grown, and overcome everything. 

Lauren is the producer of the Masculine Wilderness Podcast and the director of communication and donor relations at Epik Project. She is also the founder and executive director of Ride My Road, an educational and fundraising organization that has hosted events around the country, educated thousands of community members, and raised over $400,000 for survivor-led initiatives. As a photographer, Lauren has photographed nearly 100 American survivors of human trafficking. Most recently, Lauren and Ride My Road co-hosted the Alaska Data Summit and the Southern Oregon Human Trafficking Disruptors Summit. If you have seen our recent bonus episode, you know it included presentations by Justin Euteneier and Tomas Perez, your host.

Note: This conversation touches on sexual violence, and while it’s never our goal to sensationalize the trauma of this topic, we strive to speak truthfully about the damage being done. 

Tune in!

Resources Mentioned in the Episode

Ride My Road; https://www.ridemyroad.org/

Epik Blog by Lauren: https://www.epikproject.org/blog/abusers 

Southern Oregon Human Trafficking Disruptors Summit; https://rvml.org/event/southern-oregon-human-trafficking-disruptors-summit/

NCOSE: https://endsexualexploitation.org/

Elevate Academy by Rebecca Bender: https://elevate-academy.org/

Key Highlights From The Show:

• [00:01] Intro and a quick bio of the guest, Lauren Trantham

• [04:34] How Tom and Lauren met and what she was up to 

• [11:31] Lauren’s origin story and inspiration behind Ride My Road

• [09:53] Lauren’s first survival bike that she rebuilt with her dad 

• [12:58] How the Survival Bike project opened the door to the Sturgis Rally

• [16:07] How Lauren’s work with survivors changed her perspective on empowerment 

• [20:52] Lauren's emotional abuse and how it sparked an identity crisis

• [23:54] Things that helped Lauren through the identity crisis and how long it took to heal

• [27:33] How common intimate partner abuse is among women 

• [30:02] Lauren’s (part 1) blog post on women's abuse 

• [35:34] The silence complexity and why we need to speak up 

• [38:20] How Lauren maintains her mental, emotional, and spiritual equilibrium in her work

• [40:18] What gives Lauren the confidence to move about in the world

• [44:58] Vulnerability: The masculine equivalent of camping with coyotes 

• [52:31] Things that bring life and creativity into Lauren's path 

• [57:57] Lauren's parting words to all men

• “Abuse is everywhere, and it’s so prevalent.” - [28:02]

• “There is so much goodness, so many good men in this world, and so much hope that we can change the world.”- [38:32]

• “You don’t have to be special; you just have to be willing to camp with your coyotes, even if that is going to therapy.”- [43:47]

• “It’s very hard to go around in the world pretending; when we are not true to ourselves and open and honest about what we’re experiencing, it can make us physically ill.”- [45:34]

• “When you confront your fears and get it right with yourself, you move through the world differently.”- [50:13]

• “Work on yourself, and you will see a ripple effect take place among your family, friends, and other men in your life.”- [51:05]

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Tune in to Tom's presentation, "Raising Safe Sons," at the Southern Oregon Human Trafficking Disruptors Summit co-hosted by Ride My Road, the ANP. This pivotal event aimed to address the urgent issue of human trafficking. In this episode, Tom discusses the importance of raising a generation of empathetic and vigilant young men to enhance the collective efforts to combat exploitation and create safer communities. 

Note: This conversation touches on sexual violence, and while it’s never our goal to sensationalize the trauma of this topic, we strive to speak truthfully about the damage being done.

Tune in!

 Resources Mentioned in the Episode

ANP Conference: https://anpconference.com/

Ride My Road; https://www.ridemyroad.org/

Southern Oregon Human Trafficking Disrupter Summit; https://rvml.org/event/southern-oregon-human-trafficking-disruptors-summit/ 

Key Highlights From The Show:

●      [00:01] Intro and what in for you in today’s episode

●      [01:33] How to keep our kids safe from sexual exploitation

●      [07:31] Why sexual exploitation is a man’s issue

●      [09:50] Ways men can influence and change the outcome

●      [15:58] Humility and recognition in speaking and fighting exploitation 

●      [19:14] Anger Vs. mourning in holding pain and taking sustained purposeful action 

●      [24:36] Strong shoulders that are born out of inner strength and discipline

●      [27:35] How appetites order our world and shape our agendas 

●      [30:44] What inspired Tomas into the work he does at Epic 

●      [38:04] Tomas’s one final navigational tool for the listeners

●      [41:03] How to raise safe sons and keep the most vulnerable safe

●      [42:01] Wrap up and end of the show

●      “The best answer to the question “How do I keep our kids safe isn’t simply to do better, more thorough investigations, provide more comprehensive wrap-around care or write better laws; there is more.” - [04:28]

●      “Policy, police work, and victim services are the response to the exploitation problem, not the complete solution.”- [04:57]

●      “Keeping our kids safe starts by raising safe sons.”- [05:18]

●      “Appetites order our world and shape our priorities; we pay attention to our appetite daily and hourly; if we’re going to make a lasting difference, we have to remain hungry for change.”- [28:35]

●      ”The damnable business of human trafficking thrives because of men, and it won't be eradicated without better men.”- [41:19]

Glen (JR) Ujifusa is a leading expert in human trafficking with over fifteen years of experience in addressing these crimes. As a special United States assistant attorney for Oregon, he focuses on federal human trafficking offenses. Additionally, JR serves as a senior deputy advisor for the Multnomah County District Attorney's office, overseeing cases related to drug, property, and human trafficking crimes. He plays a pivotal role in various law enforcement groups and committees, including the National Sex Trafficking Law Enforcement List Serve and the Association Prosecuting Attorneys and Human Trafficking Advisory Committee. JR's dedication extends to chairing the national advisory committee on the sex trafficking of children and youths in the United States. With extensive experience as a deputy D.A., JR has prosecuted a wide range of crimes, from drug, violence, felony, and sexual assault crimes to homicides.

Note: This conversation touches on sexual violence, and while it’s never our goal to sensationalize the trauma of this topic, we strive to speak truthfully about the damage being done. Tune in!

Resources Mentioned in the Episode

My Friends Are Not For Sale: https://epicproject.org/myfriendsarenotforsale

Elizabeth Smart Episode:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbgLbkibvYs

Key Highlights From The Show:

●      [00:01] Intro and a quick bio of the guest, Glen (JR) Ujifusa

●      [08:33] JR’s work with Epic as an Ally and agent

●      [11:31] How Elizabeth Smart's captivity inspired JR’s passion and work trajectory

●      [16:40] Why JR believes: “We can’t arrest our way out of sexual Exploitation.”

●      [20:17] Why victimization cases are so difficult to build, sustain, and bring to Closure

●      [25:07] How JR shows up to win the trust of the victims as a prosecutor

●      [28:14] Using the term victim in the legal context vs. survivor

●      [31:44] How JR’s work has affected him as a husband and a dad

●      [34:52] JR’s work and responsibilities at the D.A Office 

●      [35:37] How JR’s work strengthens and tests his marriage

●      [38:35] What needs to be done to men to change things for the better

●      [40:00] The importance of loving and honoring ourselves as human beings

●      [43:36] The things we need to pay attention to and invest in when bringing up boys

●      [4629] JR’s parental, moral, and legal advice for kids covering up for their friends

●      [49:23] Ways men can help mitigate and reduce violence being done to vulnerable people

●      [56:41] Cases that have hurt JR personally as a man, husband, and father 

●      ][01:00:55] The training JR did when a buyer crashed their police training

●      [01:07:38] Water and fly fishing and why it’s live-giving to JR

●      [01:14:09] How men can show up in an inspiring way to young men

●      [01:18:29] JR's parting words to survivors of human trafficking

●      “Victims need help, support, Love, forgiveness, and understanding; all those things that we all need; just arresting people and putting them in jail does not work in this very complex dynamic.” - [18:56]

●      “Young boys need to be taught honor and respect for themself and others and the women around them, as well as sensitivity and understanding that it is not weak to be thoughtful, kind and to stand up for the underdog and the one being picked on if we’re to change things for the better pizza.”- [38:49]

●      “You treat people differently when you are whole, have the self-respect to hold yourself to higher standards, and when you know how you should be treated.”- [40:01]

●      “As a parent, your job is to protect your kids, not to be their best friend or the cool guy; by being a cool friend, sometimes what you are doing is you are grooming the process of traffickers who are trying to isolate and control.”- [47:38]

●      “We all have the ability to make choices, but our choices are agency, and they affect many others, and we’re part of a community.”- [75:51]

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/glen-jr-ujifusa-457016162/

In this episode, Rebecca Bender shares her Story of Survival, advocacy, and love for life to illuminate the path toward healing and empowerment for survivors of human trafficking. We also talk about character, culture, and how to find a lane in the effort to eradicate sexual exploitation from more than 15 years of leadership. Rebecca is a social activist, author, and CEO who has earned a distinct reputation as a trailblazer and nationally recognized authority in the anti-human trafficking movement. She was appointed to the National Advisory Council on the sex trafficking of Youths in America and regularly testifies as an expert witness in courts prosecuting perpetrators. 

After escaping her trafficker in 2007, Rebecca was determined to make a new life for herself and her young daughter. She worked hard, eventually opening her own business and earning a master's degree. When she was attending college online, Rebecca dreamed of launching a school for survivors of human trafficking. So, in 2014, the Elevate Academy was born, and within 8 years, it served over 1000 students in 18 countries and 575 cities across the country. This innovative online school is thriving today and remains a place where survivors can continue to connect, grow, and find tools to ignite their future.

Note: This conversation touches on sexual violence, and while it is never our goal to sensationalize the trauma of this topic, we strive to speak truthfully about the damage being done.

Tune in!

Resources Mentioned in the Episode

Elevate Academy: https://elevate-academy.org/

Key Highlights From The Show:

●      [00:01] Intro and a quick bio of the guest, Rebecca Bender

●      [05:16] A bit about Rebecca’s backstory and how her advocacy journey started

●      [10:11] Rebecca's emotional experience when she began sharing her story

●      [19:08] How Rebecca is helping people build their character mass

●      [23:28] Parenting and what has been life-giving to Rebecca raising her four daughters 

●      [27:33] One lesson Rebecca has learned from raising her kids

●      [30:00] Finding in Your Lane and Merging Different Lanes

●      [35:41] What Rebecca has learned about culture from her work and leadership

●      [40:46] The gradual cultural normalization of the expansion of boundaries

●      [46:15] Cultural changes and why things are getting worse

●      [50:24] How to show up as a man in a way that is life-giving to you and other

●      [54:26] How Rebecca is making her way and helping her kids make their way

●      [58:12] Rebecca's fun and life-giving activities in this season

●      [01:04:09] Rebecca’s message to men on boldness and making a broader impact

●      [01:10:28] Elevate Academy and how you can partner and support them

●      [01:25:29] Ending the show

●      “We make reactions, not decisions, in moments of real extreme fear.” - [09:58]

●      “Not everybody knows where their experimentation will lead in terms of addiction.”- [41:08]

●      “With the cultural sex content normalization, as a consumer, you don’t know who is there by chance or circumstance.”- [48:19]

●      “Those broader life experiences are built by individual moments and we need to help people develop a character that can help them get through situations that culturally are going to put pressure on them.”- [51:04]

●      “It takes courage to stick out for things that you’re seeing happening and not just stay silent; when people stay silent, the injustice continues.”- [66:04]

●      “You might not be able to shift the whole world, but it’s those individual moments that make up the lifetime; if everyone can be a little bold and courageous to stand up when they see an injustice, it can make a broader impact long-term.”- [66:21]

Website: https://rebeccabenderinitiative.org/meet-rebecca

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rebeccabenderinitiative

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/rebeccabenderinitiative

Child trafficking and exploitation are no longer happening via physical abductions, as traffickers are constantly changing with technology trends. Online abductions and children being lured away from home are now being facilitated through the computer, and a 14-year-old can vanish with an online predator in no time.  But as much as there has been an increase of awareness of children's online safety, some loopholes remain. Law enforcement agencies and investigators are not adequately equipped with up-to-date technological training to track and save the lives of innocent children who go missing. However, private agencies with great passion have aided, such as the National Child Protection Task Force, of which Kevin Branzetti is the co-founder.

Kevin joins us in this episode to talk more about his 30 years of experience in law enforcement, his online safety recommendations, insights into the nation’s runaway situation, and his thoughts on masculine culture. He also shares the #1 tip to keep children safe online.

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Resources Mentioned in the Episode

National Child Protection Task Force https://ncptf.org/ 

Click Safe Intelligence: https://clicksafeintelligence.com/

Key Highlights From The Show:

●      [00:01] Intro and a quick bio of the guest, Kevin Branzetti

●      [05:00] Kevin's professional background and how he got into the NCPTF

●      [12:24] Limitations & frustrations of law enforcement officers doing their investigative  work

●      [15:12] The scope of the National Child Protection Task Force and its work

●      [18:23] The driving force among the team’s passion in the work

●      [20:36] How Kevin and his team have been able to build trust

●      [25:04] Biggest technology shifts in the time he has been on the task force

●      [27:43] Runaways vs real trafficking in victims and how to distinguish

●      [32:55] How can men offer assistance even if they have never heard a badge and a gun

●      [37:44] The mental impact of the cases Kevin has been investigating

●      [41:02] A common frustrating masculine culture Kevin has encountered in his work

●      [48:29] How to keep your child safe on the internet

●      [53:52] Kevin's best advice to parents with young kids

●      [01:00:02] Online safety resources for parents Kevin recommends

●      [01:01:30] Life-giving therapy activities that keep Kevin motivated for the task force

●      [01:04:27] What is on the future horizon for the National Child Protection Task Force

●      [01:05:37] Why sextortion is the most troubling trend and the best defence

●      [01:11:10] Kevin's final thoughts and words of challenge to us

●      [01:12:44] Ending the show

●      “When you save one child from an abduction, that becomes an addiction that fuels your passion.”- [18:31]

●      “All detective skills will never disappear, even with the sophisticated technology. They will never be replaced.”- [26:43]

●      “You don't investigate the why until you find the victim. You find first, then investigate after.”- [27:43]

●      “A runaway is at the massive risk of becoming trafficked, murdered, abducted or part of a criminal system.”- [30:15]

●      “The most important thing for a leader is to care for their people. But they cannot do so if they are not cared for either.”- [38:31]

●      “Having dinner with your kids every night is one of the first basic steps to keep them safe online. Parenting style should not change. Technology is just another toy.”- [48:29]

●      “Your child being abducted by a stranger is less likely than your kid being killed by a spider bite. But your child being lured and abducted online can happen in your circle and faster than you think.”- [50:23]

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Have you ever wondered how sexual exploitation and sex work impact the individuals involved, particularly women? The ripple effects of commercial sex and sexual exploitation extend beyond the immediate exchange, influencing emotional, psychological, and relational well-being. Many women in this space find themselves trapped in a challenging paradox—they may not necessarily enjoy the work. Yet, they feel compelled to maintain a façade to cater to the egos of the men they serve to secure their income. The collateral damage of these transactions is substantial, leading to a compromised trajectory in life and a devaluation of personal worth due to the inherently transactional and inauthentic nature of the interactions involved.

In this episode, Andrea Heinz shares her story, how she entered and exited the commercial sex industry, and how her journey took her from actively participating in commercial sex, then brothel ownership, to eventually becoming a vocal advocate for the abolition of the entire industry. We also discuss philosophy, culture, feminism, and how to distinguish between commercial sex, prostitution, sex trafficking, and exploitation. 

Andrea Heinz is a partner in our work at Epik Project, a Canadian educator and activist who has spent 7 years in the licensed sex trade, existing from the industry in December 2012. Andrea is one of the most compelling voices advocating for the abolition of the sex trade in North America. She holds a diploma in correctional services and is completing a bachelor's of professional arts in governance, law, and management. Andrea is a peer-reviewed scholar on the topic of commercial sexual exploitation and was honored with a Woman of Courage award by the Center to End All Sexual Exploitation in Edmonton. Recently, Andrea and co-author Kathy Kings published a book, When Men Buy Sex; Who Really Pays?: Canadian Stories of Exploitation, Survival, and Advocacy. 

Note: This conversation includes some sensitive content that might not be suitable for all audiences and ages. However, it serves as a powerful testament to the impact of sexual exploitation and sex work. 

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Resources Mentioned in the Episode

Epik Project: https://www.epikproject.org/

When Men Buy Sex: Who Really Pays?: https://www.amazon.in/When-Men-Buy-Sex-Exploitation/dp/1039168507

A Mule for the P A Mule for the Patriarchy: https://digitalcommons.uri.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1234&context=dignity

Insights from Sex Trade Experienced Persons (InSTEP) Model: https://digitalcommons.uri.edu/dignity/vol5/iss1/8/

Ride My Road: https://www.ridemyroad.org/

A Tribute to All Who Are Lost Among Us: https://www.missingcara.ca/

'Labeled' an 8-episode docuseries: https://www.justinkueber.com/work/labeleddocuseries

Key Highlights From The Show:

●      [00:01] Intro and a quick bio of the guest, Andrea Heinz

●      [05:40] A bit about Andrea’s story and journey in the commercial sex space

●      [09:39] What triggered Andrea's transition into activism and advocacy

●      [12:30] Andrea’s awakening and how the voices of survivors piqued her interest

●      [14:57] The zest behind Andrea’s writing: A Mule for the Patriarchy

●      [21:59] Prostitution vs. sex work vs. sex trafficking and sexual exploitation

●      [26:52] Andrea’s perspective on the notion “Sex work is empowering.”

●      [31:30] The role of technology in shaping culture

●      [35:58] How sex work differentiates and how we can respond to it

●      [41:17] How indigenous and vulnerable women are threatened by the sex market

●      [44:21] The connection between trafficking and missing and murdered indigenous women

●      [46:35] Three leaders Andrea gives a shout to in the indigenous movements

●      [52:20] Where Andrea sees hope in the young generation

●      [55:07] Radical feminism and what it means

●      [01:02:47] The influence of the older generation on the young generation

●      [01:07:35] Life-giving things that keep Andrea going

●      [01:10:45] Bearing beauty: Something beautiful Andrea witnessed recently

●      [01:12:28] Letting go of trauma and changing how you look at it

●      [01:14:12] The work Andrea is doing and two things she is focusing on the most 

●      [01:20:52] Andrea’s final words of encouragement to the listeners

●      [01:23:00] Ending the show

●      “Whether you are a buyer or a seller, the commercial sex industry is not conducive to where you want to genuinely end up in life and what you value because a lot of men go in looking for love and affection, but they are purchased and therefore not authentic.” - [25:17]

●      “Empathy is foundational to justice because if we can’t put ourselves in their place, it’s never going to change.”- [30:14]

●      “So many women in sex work don’t like the job, but they have to lie to the women who are so swallowed up by the work and the men they are selling sex to, to appease their egos and get their money.”- [39:02]

●      “There is nobody who is completely rigid; we can all be open to change and awakening.”- [63:08]

●      “It’s just as important for us to work with the older generation as it’s with the younger ones because the older ones are still going to have the influence and set the examples for the younger one.”- [63:23]

●      “You can never rid yourself fully of trauma, but you can change how you look at it.”- [72:41]

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YouTube: Survivor Turned Advocate: Andrea Heinz's Healing, Hope and Advocacy for Abolition of Sex Trade

Have you ever wondered how sexual exploitation and sex work impact the individuals involved, particularly women? The ripple effects of commercial sex and sexual exploitation extend beyond the immediate exchange, influencing emotional, psychological, and relational well-being. Many women in this space find themselves trapped in a challenging paradox—they may not necessarily enjoy the work. Yet, they feel compelled to maintain a façade to cater to the egos of the men they serve to secure their income. The collateral damage of these transactions is substantial, leading to a compromised trajectory in life and a devaluation of personal worth due to the inherently transactional and inauthentic nature of the interactions involved.

In this episode, Andrea Heinz shares her story, how she entered and exited the commercial sex industry, and how her journey took her from actively participating in commercial sex, then brothel ownership, to eventually becoming a vocal advocate for the abolition of the entire industry. We also discuss philosophy, culture, feminism, and how to distinguish between commercial sex, prostitution, sex trafficking, and exploitation. 

Andrea Heinz is a partner in our work at Epik Project, a Canadian educator and activist who has spent 7 years in the licensed sex trade, existing from the industry in December 2012. Andrea is one of the most compelling voices advocating for the abolition of the sex trade in North America. She holds a diploma in correctional services and is completing a bachelor's of professional arts in governance, law, and management. Andrea is a peer-reviewed scholar on the topic of commercial sexual exploitation and was honored with a Woman of Courage award by the Center to End All Sexual Exploitation in Edmonton. Recently, Andrea and co-author Kathy Kings published a book, When Men Buy Sex; Who Really Pays?: Canadian Stories of Exploitation, Survival, and Advocacy. 

Note: This conversation includes some sensitive content that might not be suitable for all audiences and ages. However, it serves as a powerful testament to the impact of sexual exploitation and sex work. 

Tune in!

Resources Mentioned in the Episode

Epik Project: https://www.epikproject.org/

When Men Buy Sex: Who Really Pays?: https://www.amazon.in/When-Men-Buy-Sex-Exploitation/dp/1039168507

A Mule for the P A Mule for the Patriarchy: https://digitalcommons.uri.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1234&context=dignity

Insights from Sex Trade Experienced Persons (InSTEP) Model: https://digitalcommons.uri.edu/dignity/vol5/iss1/8/

Ride My Road: https://www.ridemyroad.org/

A Tribute to All Who Are Lost Among Us: https://www.missingcara.ca/

'Labeled' an 8-episode docuseries: https://www.justinkueber.com/work/labeleddocuseries

Key Highlights From The Show:

●      [00:01] Intro and a quick bio of the guest, Andrea Heinz

●      [05:40] A bit about Andrea’s story and journey in the commercial sex space

●      [09:39] What triggered Andrea's transition into activism and advocacy

●      [12:30] Andrea’s awakening and how the voices of survivors piqued her interest

●      [14:57] The zest behind Andrea’s writing: A Mule for the Patriarchy

●      [21:59] Prostitution vs. sex work vs. sex trafficking and sexual exploitation

●      [26:52] Andrea’s perspective on the notion “Sex work is empowering.”

●      [31:30] The role of technology in shaping culture

●      [35:58] How sex work differentiates and how we can respond to it

●      [41:17] How indigenous and vulnerable women are threatened by the sex market

●      [44:21] The connection between trafficking and missing and murdered indigenous women

●      [46:35] Three leaders Andrea gives a shout to in the indigenous movements

●      [52:20] Where Andrea sees hope in the young generation

●      [55:07] Radical feminism and what it means

●      [01:02:47] The influence of the older generation on the young generation

●      [01:07:35] Life-giving things that keep Andrea going

●      [01:10:45] Bearing beauty: Something beautiful Andrea witnessed recently

●      [01:12:28] Letting go of trauma and changing how you look at it

●      [01:14:12] The work Andrea is doing and two things she is focusing on the most 

●      [01:20:52] Andrea’s final words of encouragement to the listeners

●      [01:23:00] Ending the show

●      “Whether you are a buyer or a seller, the commercial sex industry is not conducive to where you want to genuinely end up in life and what you value because a lot of men go in looking for love and affection, but they are purchased and therefore not authentic.” - [25:17]

●      “Empathy is foundational to justice because if we can’t put ourselves in their place, it’s never going to change.”- [30:14]

●      “So many women in sex work don’t like the job, but they have to lie to the women who are so swallowed up by the work and the men they are selling sex to, to appease their egos and get their money.”- [39:02]

●      “There is nobody who is completely rigid; we can all be open to change and awakening.”- [63:08]

●      “It’s just as important for us to work with the older generation as it’s with the younger ones because the older ones are still going to have the influence and set the examples for the younger one.”- [63:23]

●      “You can never rid yourself fully of trauma, but you can change how you look at it.”- [72:41]

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Note: This conversation includes some sensitive content that might not be suitable for all audiences and ages. However, it serves as a powerful reminder that even in the face of adversity, we can triumph, and our resilience can shape a life of purpose and meaning. Tune in!

Resources Mentioned in the Episode: Elizabeth Smart Foundation: ⁠https://www.elizabethsmartfoundation.org/⁠ Smart Defense: ⁠https://www.elizabethsmartfoundation.org/smart-defense⁠ We Believe You Campaign: ⁠https://www.elizabethsmartfoundation.org/we-believe-you⁠ Malouf Foundation: ⁠https://www.malouffoundation.org/esfannouncement/⁠ I Am On Watch Organization: ⁠https://www.iamonwatch.org/⁠ OnWatch Training: ⁠https://www.iamonwatch.org/training⁠

Key Highlights From The Show:

●     [00:01] Introduction to the show

●     [5:40] Elizabeth's story: How she was kidnaped and held captive at 14

●     [9:00] Elizabeth's fear and how it influenced her choices to survive

●     [13:05] Why Elizabeth didn’t fall for the kidnapper's religious rationalization

●     [16:00] Tactics the captors used to keep people away from Elizabeth and others captive

●     [16:30] Elizabeth's experience when she was rescued after 9 months in captivity

●     [24:09] How it was for Elizabeth to reintegrate into the normal world after captivity

●     [26:00] How Elizabeth navigated the trauma from the experience

●     [29:21] How Elizabeth’s experience inspires her work today and her vision

●     [30:10] Elizabeth Smart’s Foundation and their programs

●     [40:30] How our response can set the trajectory and be a starting point for healing

●     [49:50] Why women are often not believed when they report sexual abuse

●     [55:44] What it is for Elizabeth and her husband raising a daughter and son

●     [01:00:45] Elizabeth's thoughts on parenting and her advice to other parents

●     [01:04:00] Life-giving things that Elizabeth is committed to as a young parent

●     [01:09:50] Elizabeth’s final words of encouragement

●     [01:11:21] Ending the show

●     A message from the producer

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Credits:

Host - Tom Perez

Producer - Lauren Trantham

Logo Art - Michelle Boucher

Theme Music - Wesley Finley