Eric grew up in central Ohio and graduated from Ohio State with a degree in Microbiology. Having come from a close family, Eric immediately went through the police academy after graduation to follow in the footsteps of his father. (Phil) For the past 20 years, he simultaneously pursued a career in pharmaceutical sales & law enforcement and was lucky enough to get married & start a family here in Columbus.

Co-host Derek DeBrosse is a licensed Ohio attorney with a firearms legal practice emphasizing in Gun Rights Restoration. Derek began his law practice immediately after law school in 2008 when he graduated from Regent University School of Law; Derek also holds a B.A. from The Ohio State University. Mr. DeBrosse’s practice not only focuses on rights restoration but also a variety of other firearm-related matters from NFA issues to FFL representation. Derek has represented individual, corporate, and grass-roots organizational firearm clients in both Federal and State court.

Co-host Stephen E. Palmer is a trusted Columbus criminal defense attorney of nearly 30 years. He has developed a distinctive approach to criminal defense work by making a sincere effort to know each of his clients on a personal level. Steve recognizes that no two cases are the same, and neither are his clients’ needs. He believes that criminal defense isn’t just about representing a client in court; it’s about helping clients craft solutions to their problems. Steve reaches solutions through careful contemplation of all facets of a client’s problems—not just the black-and-white legal issues.

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Steve opens with a passionate critique of the increasing governance by bureaucratic administrators, while Derek delves into the implications of the 1,300-page memo that could redefine private gun sales.

The conversation takes a dramatic turn as they discuss the controversial Michigan case where parents were charged with manslaughter for their son's actions in a school shooting, raising profound questions about criminal liability and the role of parents and schools in such tragedies.

"We are being governed essentially by a dictatorship when the executive branch can just cram down interpretations." - Steve Palmer

As always, the episode features the "Ammo Can" segment, where Steve and Derek provide insight into the legalities surrounding minors and handgun possession at gun ranges, shedding light on the often misunderstood nuances of gun laws for young adults.

"They're 'not coming for your guns,' but they are." - Derek Bebrosse

Remember, co-hosts Derek DeBrosse and Steve Palmer bring years of legal expertise to the table, providing invaluable perspectives on these pressing issues. Their combined knowledge makes Munitions Podcast a must-listen for anyone interested in the intersection of law and gun rights.

Memorable Moments

(06:31) The White House and Biden administration reportedly discussed regulating private gun sales

(12:48) Parents charged with manslaughter after giving a gun to the son who later used it in shooting

(18:05) Should parents be held liable for school shooting, or is school liable

(21:01) In Ohio, it's illegal to transfer a gun to somebody under 18

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Co-host Derek DeBrosse is a licensed Ohio attorney with a firearms legal practice emphasizing in Gun Rights Restoration. Derek began his law practice immediately after law school in 2008 when he graduated from Regent University School of Law; Derek also holds a B.A. from The Ohio State University. Mr. DeBrosse’s practice not only focuses on rights restoration but also a variety of other firearm-related matters from NFA issues to FFL representation. Derek has represented individual, corporate, and grass-roots organizational firearm clients in both Federal and State court.

Co-host Stephen E. Palmer is a trusted Columbus criminal defense attorney of nearly 30 years. He has developed a distinctive approach to criminal defense work by making a sincere effort to know each of his clients on a personal level. Steve recognizes that no two cases are the same, and neither are his clients’ needs. He believes that criminal defense isn’t just about representing a client in court; it’s about helping clients craft solutions to their problems. Steve reaches solutions through careful contemplation of all facets of a client’s problems—not just the black-and-white legal issues.

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Tune in for a thought-provoking exploration of how views on guns and self-defense evolved differently in the US and India.

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Co-host Derek DeBrosse is a licensed Ohio attorney with a firearms legal practice emphasizing in Gun Rights Restoration. Derek began his law practice immediately after law school in 2008 when he graduated from Regent University School of Law; Derek also holds a B.A. from The Ohio State University. Mr. DeBrosse’s practice not only focuses on rights restoration but also a variety of other firearm-related matters from NFA issues to FFL representation. Derek has represented individual, corporate, and grass-roots organizational firearm clients in both Federal and State court.

Co-host Stephen E. Palmer is a trusted Columbus criminal defense attorney of nearly 30 years. He has developed a distinctive approach to criminal defense work by making a sincere effort to know each of his clients on a personal level. Steve recognizes that no two cases are the same, and neither are his clients’ needs. He believes that criminal defense isn’t just about representing a client in court; it’s about helping clients craft solutions to their problems. Steve reaches solutions through careful contemplation of all facets of a client’s problems—not just the black-and-white legal issues.

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Co-host Derek DeBrosse is a licensed Ohio attorney with a firearms legal practice emphasizing in Gun Rights Restoration. Derek began his law practice immediately after law school in 2008 when he graduated from Regent University School of Law; Derek also holds a B.A. from The Ohio State University. Mr. DeBrosse’s practice not only focuses on rights restoration but also a variety of other firearm-related matters from NFA issues to FFL representation. Derek has represented individual, corporate, and grass-roots organizational firearm clients in both Federal and State court.

Co-host Stephen E. Palmer is a trusted Columbus criminal defense attorney of nearly 30 years. He has developed a distinctive approach to criminal defense work by making a sincere effort to know each of his clients on a personal level. Steve recognizes that no two cases are the same, and neither are his clients’ needs. He believes that criminal defense isn’t just about representing a client in court; it’s about helping clients craft solutions to their problems. Steve reaches solutions through careful contemplation of all facets of a client’s problems—not just the black-and-white legal issues.

Be sure to subscribe to the Munitions Law Group - Cheshire DeBrosse, P.C. YouTube Channel

Email us your questions at info@munitionsgroup.com.

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Co-host Derek DeBrosse is a licensed Ohio attorney with a firearms legal practice emphasizing in Gun Rights Restoration. Derek began his law practice immediately after law school in 2008 when he graduated from Regent University School of Law; Derek also holds a B.A. from The Ohio State University. Mr. DeBrosse’s practice not only focuses on rights restoration but also a variety of other firearm-related matters from NFA issues to FFL representation. Derek has represented individual, corporate, and grass-roots organizational firearm clients in both Federal and State court.

Co-host Stephen E. Palmer is a trusted Columbus criminal defense attorney of nearly 30 years. He has developed a distinctive approach to criminal defense work by making a sincere effort to know each of his clients on a personal level. Steve recognizes that no two cases are the same, and neither are his clients’ needs. He believes that criminal defense isn’t just about representing a client in court; it’s about helping clients craft solutions to their problems. Steve reaches solutions through careful contemplation of all facets of a client’s problems—not just the black-and-white legal issues.

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The regulatory and criminal aspects are merging in cases related to firearms regulations. ATF agents and the federal government play a key role in how these cases evolve. The complicated regulatory scheme, involving intricate forms and requirements, can unwittingly lead to legal issues for law-abiding gun shop owners.

There is growing concern about the government's crackdown on gun shops using regulations as a criminal tool. Cases involving paperwork errors should not be considered capital offenses, leading to the loss of livelihood and imprisonment for store owners. Strict enforcement may be politically motivated, resulting in reduced availability of firearms without addressing the root causes of gun crime.

Email us your questions at info@munitionsgroup.com.

Co-host Derek DeBrosse is a licensed Ohio attorney with a firearms legal practice emphasizing in Gun Rights Restoration. Derek began his law practice immediately after law school in 2008 when he graduated from Regent University School of Law; Derek also holds a B.A. from The Ohio State University. Mr. DeBrosse’s practice not only focuses on rights restoration but also a variety of other firearm-related matters from NFA issues to FFL representation. Derek has represented individual, corporate, and grass-roots organizational firearm clients in both Federal and State court.

Co-host Stephen E. Palmer is a trusted Columbus criminal defense attorney of nearly 30 years. He has developed a distinctive approach to criminal defense work by making a sincere effort to know each of his clients on a personal level. Steve recognizes that no two cases are the same, and neither are his clients’ needs. He believes that criminal defense isn’t just about representing a client in court; it’s about helping clients craft solutions to their problems. Steve reaches solutions through careful contemplation of all facets of a client’s problems—not just the black-and-white legal issues.

Be sure to subscribe to the Munitions Law Group - Cheshire DeBrosse, P.C. YouTube Channel

Recorded at Channel 511, a production of 511 South High Media LLC.

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Email us your questions at info@munitionsgroup.com.

Co-host Derek DeBrosse is a licensed Ohio attorney with a firearms legal practice emphasizing in Gun Rights Restoration. Derek began his law practice immediately after law school in 2008 when he graduated from Regent University School of Law; Derek also holds a B.A. from The Ohio State University. Mr. DeBrosse’s practice not only focuses on rights restoration but also a variety of other firearm-related matters from NFA issues to FFL representation. Derek has represented individual, corporate, and grass-roots organizational firearm clients in both Federal and State court.

Co-host Stephen E. Palmer is a trusted Columbus criminal defense attorney of nearly 30 years. He has developed a distinctive approach to criminal defense work by making a sincere effort to know each of his clients on a personal level. Steve recognizes that no two cases are the same, and neither are his clients’ needs. He believes that criminal defense isn’t just about representing a client in court; it’s about helping clients craft solutions to their problems. Steve reaches solutions through careful contemplation of all facets of a client’s problems—not just the black-and-white legal issues.

Recorded at Channel 511, a production of 511 South High Media LLC.

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Email us your questions at info@munitionsgroup.com.

Co-host Derek DeBrosse is a licensed Ohio attorney with a firearms legal practice emphasizing in Gun Rights Restoration. Derek began his law practice immediately after law school in 2008 when he graduated from Regent University School of Law; Derek also holds a B.A. from The Ohio State University. Mr. DeBrosse’s practice not only focuses on rights restoration but also a variety of other firearm-related matters from NFA issues to FFL representation. Derek has represented individual, corporate, and grass-roots organizational firearm clients in both Federal and State court.

Co-host Stephen E. Palmer is a trusted Columbus criminal defense attorney of nearly 30 years. He has developed a distinctive approach to criminal defense work by making a sincere effort to know each of his clients on a personal level. Steve recognizes that no two cases are the same, and neither are his clients’ needs. He believes that criminal defense isn’t just about representing a client in court; it’s about helping clients craft solutions to their problems. Steve reaches solutions through careful contemplation of all facets of a client’s problems—not just the black-and-white legal issues.

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In this episode, Steve and Derek delve into the sensitive issue of individuals who use marijuana possessing firearms, and how it relates to the Second Amendment. Their analysis is insightful and engaging, providing listeners with a valuable resource for those interested in firearms and the Second Amendment.

Co-host Derek DeBrosse is a licensed Ohio attorney with a firearms legal practice emphasizing in Gun Rights Restoration. Derek began his law practice immediately after law school in 2008 when he graduated from Regent University School of Law; Derek also holds a B.A. from The Ohio State University. Mr. DeBrosse’s practice not only focuses on rights restoration but also a variety of other firearm-related matters from NFA issues to FFL representation. Derek has represented individual, corporate, and grass-roots organizational firearm clients in both Federal and State court.

Co-host Stephen E. Palmer is a trusted Columbus criminal defense attorney of nearly 30 years. He has developed a distinctive approach to criminal defense work by making a sincere effort to know each of his clients on a personal level. Steve recognizes that no two cases are the same, and neither are his clients’ needs. He believes that criminal defense isn’t just about representing a client in court; it’s about helping clients craft solutions to their problems. Steve reaches solutions through careful contemplation of all facets of a client’s problems—not just the black-and-white legal issues.

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So here's a scenario to consider. If you are in California, you have a municipal marijuana card, you're at the gun range, you get stopped by law enforcement, you get arrested. Are you an unlawful user of a controlled substance? And the answer from the court is yes. Because under federal law, it's still a scheduled drug, schedule one.

But you say, "Hey, I got this marijuana card, can I have a gun?"

It's an interesting question.

Having a card is not what's illegal when you have a gun, right? The law doesn't say that you can't have a gun if you have a marijuana card. Right? It says you can't be an unlawful user.

Now, what does "user of" mean? Does that mean ingesting it? Does that mean partaking in it? Does that mean selling it?

It probably means all of the above.

But the card itself is not a controlled substance. But it's exactly the evidence that would lead a jury to believe that you're an unlawful user. So it can be used against you if you're a gun owner. So if you're out there getting a medicinal marijuana card and you're a gun owner, you're putting yourself in some serious legal jeopardy.

And more!

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Co-host Derek DeBrosse is a licensed Ohio attorney with a firearms legal practice emphasizing in Gun Rights Restoration. Derek began his law practice immediately after law school in 2008 when he graduated from Regent University School of Law; Derek also holds a B.A. from The Ohio State University. Mr. DeBrosse’s practice not only focuses on rights restoration but also a variety of other firearm-related matters from NFA issues to FFL representation. Derek has represented individual, corporate, and grass-roots organizational firearm clients in both Federal and State court.

Co-host Stephen E. Palmer is a trusted Columbus criminal defense attorney of nearly 30 years. He has developed a distinctive approach to criminal defense work by making a sincere effort to know each of his clients on a personal level. Steve recognizes that no two cases are the same, and neither are his clients’ needs. He believes that criminal defense isn’t just about representing a client in court; it’s about helping clients craft solutions to their problems. Steve reaches solutions through careful contemplation of all facets of a client’s problems—not just the black-and-white legal issues.

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So preemption basically means the state of Ohio, as the bigger entity, has sole and exclusive authority to write and make laws on gun regulation. Otherwise what happens is, let's say Columbus passes a law about regulating firearms beyond the state of Ohio's laws. The state of Ohio says you can't do this.

But there are numerous cities around Ohio that are not following this Ohio Revised Code 9.68. And are being sued. And this has led to a Fairfield County judge granting the state’s request for a temporary restraining order to halt the enforcement of Columbus' newly enacted gun restrictions.

Plus more about SHOT Show 2023. The Shooting, Hunting, Outdoor Trade Show. The nation's largest professional event for the sport shooting, hunting, and outdoor industry that was held in Las Vegas, on January 17–20, 2023.

Co-host Derek DeBrosse is a licensed Ohio attorney with a firearms legal practice emphasizing in Gun Rights Restoration. Derek began his law practice immediately after law school in 2008 when he graduated from Regent University School of Law; Derek also holds a B.A. from The Ohio State University. Mr. DeBrosse’s practice not only focuses on rights restoration but also a variety of other firearm-related matters from NFA issues to FFL representation. Derek has represented individual, corporate, and grass-roots organizational firearm clients in both Federal and State court.

Co-host Stephen E. Palmer is a trusted Columbus criminal defense attorney of nearly 30 years. He has developed a distinctive approach to criminal defense work by making a sincere effort to know each of his clients on a personal level. Steve recognizes that no two cases are the same, and neither are his clients’ needs. He believes that criminal defense isn’t just about representing a client in court; it’s about helping clients craft solutions to their problems. Steve reaches solutions through careful contemplation of all facets of a client’s problems—not just the black-and-white legal issues.

Email us your questions at info@munitionsgroup.com.

Be sure to subscribe to the Munitions Law Group - Cheshire DeBrosse, P.C. YouTube Channel

Recorded at Channel 511, a production of 511 South High Media LLC.

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Co-host Derek DeBrosse is a licensed Ohio attorney with a firearms legal practice emphasizing in Gun Rights Restoration. Derek began his law practice immediately after law school in 2008 when he graduated from Regent University School of Law; Derek also holds a B.A. from The Ohio State University. Mr. DeBrosse’s practice not only focuses on rights restoration but also a variety of other firearm-related matters from NFA issues to FFL representation. Derek has represented individual, corporate, and grass-roots organizational firearm clients in both Federal and State court.

Co-host Stephen E. Palmer is a trusted Columbus criminal defense attorney of nearly 30 years. He has developed a distinctive approach to criminal defense work by making a sincere effort to know each of his clients on a personal level. Steve recognizes that no two cases are the same, and neither are his clients’ needs. He believes that criminal defense isn’t just about representing a client in court; it’s about helping clients craft solutions to their problems. Steve reaches solutions through careful contemplation of all facets of a client’s problems—not just the black-and-white legal issues.

Email us your questions at info@munitionsgroup.com.

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Through his legal practice, Law of Self Defense LLC, Andrew helps law-abiding armed citizens make better informed, more confident, more decisive decisions in defense of themselves, their families, and their property.

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Co-host Derek DeBrosse is a licensed Ohio attorney with a firearms legal practice emphasizing in Gun Rights Restoration. Derek began his law practice immediately after law school in 2008 when he graduated from Regent University School of Law; Derek also holds a B.A. from The Ohio State University. Mr. DeBrosse’s practice not only focuses on rights restoration but also a variety of other firearm-related matters from NFA issues to FFL representation. Derek has represented individual, corporate, and grass-roots organizational firearm clients in both Federal and State court.

Co-host Stephen E. Palmer is a trusted Columbus criminal defense attorney of nearly 30 years. He has developed a distinctive approach to criminal defense work by making a sincere effort to know each of his clients on a personal level. Steve recognizes that no two cases are the same, and neither are his clients’ needs. He believes that criminal defense isn’t just about representing a client in court; it’s about helping clients craft solutions to their problems. Steve reaches solutions through careful contemplation of all facets of a client’s problems—not just the black-and-white legal issues.

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Here are the official documents.

The Supreme Court held oral arguments for Bruen in November 2021, with plaintiffs challenging the 100-year-old New York state handgun licensing law requiring individuals to show proper cause before they can be licensed to carry a concealed weapon in public. Plaintiffs argued that the law violates the Second Amendment.

What does Bruen decision mean?

Bruen in a 6-3 decision on June 23, 2022. Justice Clarence Thomas, writing the opinion for the Court, ruled that the Second Amendment protects the right to carry a handgun for self-defense outside the home. Every law-abiding citizen is now eligible for a carry permit.

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Co-host Derek DeBrosse is a licensed Ohio attorney with a firearms legal practice emphasizing in Gun Rights Restoration. Derek began his law practice immediately after law school in 2008 when he graduated from Regent University School of Law; Derek also holds a B.A. from The Ohio State University. Mr. DeBrosse’s practice not only focuses on rights restoration but also a variety of other firearm-related matters from NFA issues to FFL representation. Derek has represented individual, corporate, and grass-roots organizational firearm clients in both Federal and State court.

Co-host Stephen E. Palmer is a trusted Columbus criminal defense attorney of nearly 30 years. He has developed a distinctive approach to criminal defense work by making a sincere effort to know each of his clients on a personal level. Steve recognizes that no two cases are the same, and neither are his clients’ needs. He believes that criminal defense isn’t just about representing a client in court; it’s about helping clients craft solutions to their problems. Steve reaches solutions through careful contemplation of all facets of a client’s problems—not just the black-and-white legal issues.

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Be Safe And Carry On

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Co-host Derek DeBrosse is a licensed Ohio attorney with a firearms legal practice emphasizing in Gun Rights Restoration. Derek began his law practice immediately after law school in 2008 when he graduated from Regent University School of Law; Derek also holds a B.A. from The Ohio State University. Mr. DeBrosse’s practice not only focuses on rights restoration but also a variety of other firearm-related matters from NFA issues to FFL representation. Derek has represented individual, corporate, and grass-roots organizational firearm clients in both Federal and State court.

Co-host Stephen E. Palmer is a trusted Columbus criminal defense attorney of nearly 30 years. He has developed a distinctive approach to criminal defense work by making a sincere effort to know each of his clients on a personal level. Steve recognizes that no two cases are the same, and neither are his clients’ needs. He believes that criminal defense isn’t just about representing a client in court; it’s about helping clients craft solutions to their problems. Steve reaches solutions through careful contemplation of all facets of a client’s problems—not just the black-and-white legal issues.

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Copyright 2025 Steve Palmer and Derek DeBrosse