<![CDATA[Interdependence Guests]]>Thu, 24 Dec 2020 02:39:01 +0000Captivate.fmmatdryhurst@gmail.com (Holly Herndon & Mat Dryhurst)https://artwork.captivate.fm/7fbfe263-21f1-4ccb-ac79-d25c5950e560/8ywpiaknunnqlqhd8qpndgff.pngInterdependence GuestsHolly Herndon & Mat Dryhurstmatdryhurst@gmail.comHolly Herndon & Mat DryhurstConversations with people shaping 21st Century Culture from Holly Herndon and Mat Dryhurst's Berlin studiohttps://interdependence.fmyesepisodic#brokenrecord and streaming reform with Tom Gray (PRS)#brokenrecord and streaming reform with Tom Gray (PRS)This week we talk to Director at PRS for music and Gomez songwriter Tom Gray, who, through the #brokenrecord hashtag and other advocacy work has been championing the need for reform the way that streaming services work, and reform copyright policy to better protect songwriters and producers. We discuss the case for user centric streaming over the current pro-rata payment model, what is was like to witness the transition from sales to streaming as a successful touring band, and how, at a time when the song is earning the least amount it has ever earned, the expenses to develop the songs are being placed on the songwriter and producer more than ever before by labels and streaming. There are also some stories that border on ASMR, Tom has by far the best microphone we have encountered doing the podcast so far. Links (if we ever mention anything in the pod you want a link to, leave a comment!) Tom on Twitter: https://twitter.com/mrtomgray?lang=en (https://twitter.com/mrtomgray?lang=en) PRS: https://www.prsformusic.com/ (https://www.prsformusic.com/) Ivors Academy: https://ivorsacademy.com/ (https://ivorsacademy.com/) This week we talk to Director at PRS for music and Gomez songwriter Tom Gray, who, through the #brokenrecord hashtag and other advocacy work has been championing the need for reform the way that streaming services work, and reform copyright policy to better protect songwriters and producers.

We discuss the case for user centric streaming over the current pro-rata payment model, what is was like to witness the transition from sales to streaming as a successful touring band, and how, at a time when the song is earning the least amount it has ever earned, the expenses to develop the songs are being placed on the songwriter and producer more than ever before by labels and streaming. There are also some stories that border on ASMR, Tom has by far the best microphone we have encountered doing the podcast so far.

Links (if we ever mention anything in the pod you want a link to, leave a comment!)

Tom on Twitter: https://twitter.com/mrtomgray?lang=en

PRS: https://www.prsformusic.com/

Ivors Academy: https://ivorsacademy.com/

]]>087853bd-3079-4171-adba-5e1a44e77d40Thu, 24 Dec 2020 00:00:00 +010001:52:55yesfull10This week we talk to Director at PRS for music and Gomez songwriter Tom Gray, who, through the #brokenrecord hashtag and other advocacy work has been championing the need for reform the way that streaming services work, and reform copyright policy to better protect songwriters and producers. We discuss the case for user centric streaming over the current pro-rata payment model, what is was like to witness the transition from sales to streaming as a successful touring band, and how, at a time when the song is earning the least amount it has ever earned, the expenses to develop the songs are being placed on the songwriter and producer more than ever before by labels and streaming. There are also some stories that border on ASMR, Tom has by far the best microphone we have encountered doing the podcast so far. Links (if we ever mention anything in the pod you want a link to, leave a comment!) Tom on Twitter: https://twitter.com/mrtomgray?lang=en PRS: https://www.prsformusic.com/ Ivors Academy: https://ivorsacademy.com/Holly Herndon & Mat DryhurstOrganizing the Worlds Knowledge with Evgeny MorozovOrganizing the Worlds Knowledge with Evgeny MorozovEvgeny Morozov joins to discuss COVID solutionism, left imagination and organizing the world's information with The Syllabus. Episode NotesIf you are interested in reading Evgeny's new piece in the Guardian, visit: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/apr/15/tech-coronavirus-surveilance-state-digital-disrupt (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/apr/15/tech-coronavirus-surveilance-state-digital-disrupt) Sign up to Evgeny's Syllabus project to receive a weekly syllabi curated around your interests: https://the-syllabus.com/ (https://the-syllabus.com/) Evgeny Morozov joins to discuss COVID solutionism, left imagination and organizing the world's information with The Syllabus.

Episode Notes

If you are interested in reading Evgeny's new piece in the Guardian, visit:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/apr/15/tech-coronavirus-surveilance-state-digital-disrupt

Sign up to Evgeny's Syllabus project to receive a weekly syllabi curated around your interests:

https://the-syllabus.com/

]]>0b0cbabd-bd99-4a58-8a7e-937175dbac23Thu, 24 Dec 2020 00:00:00 +010053:02yesfull1Evgeny Morozov joins to discuss COVID solutionism, left imagination and organizing the world's information with The Syllabus. Episode Notes If you are interested in reading Evgeny's new piece in the Guardian, visit: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/apr/15/tech-coronavirus-surveilance-state-digital-disrupt Sign up to Evgeny's Syllabus project to receive a weekly syllabi curated around your interests: https://the-syllabus.com/Holly Herndon & Mat DryhurstAI and Music with François Pachet & Benoit Carré (Spotify CTRL LAB)AI and Music with François Pachet & Benoit Carré (Spotify CTRL LAB)We are joined by research scientist and Director of Spotify's CTRL lab François Pachet and his collaborator, the composer Benoit Carré to discuss how the latest in AI research offers&nbsp;a new paradigm for both composition and the concept of authorship and ownership. This will be one of many times we pursue conversations with researchers at the cutting edge of Artificial Intelligence and music, not only because it offers a glimpse into the future of music, but also the greater economy. Music is often the first to feel the tremors for greater economic earthquakes, so it feels like an important conversation to jump into! We can't play their music during the podcast, however we recommend that you check out these works in combination with listening to the conversation! Daddy's Car: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSHZ_b05W7o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSHZ_b05W7o) The Ballad of Mr.Shadow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcGYEXJqun8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcGYEXJqun8) American Folk Songs EP: https://skyggewithai.bandcamp.com/ (https://skyggewithai.bandcamp.com/) "Black is the Color” by SKYGGE featuring Pete Seeger: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=20&amp;v=sv56kfvsQAM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=20&amp;v=sv56kfvsQAM) On listener Jeremy Yuille's suggestion, here are a couple of tools referenced in this episode that you can use to get started with ML and creating art right now (no code required): https://runwayml.com/ (https://runwayml.com/) http://aiva.ai/ (aiva.ai)&nbsp; We are joined by research scientist and Director of Spotify's CTRL lab François Pachet and his collaborator, the composer Benoit Carré to discuss how the latest in AI research offers a new paradigm for both composition and the concept of authorship and ownership.

This will be one of many times we pursue conversations with researchers at the cutting edge of Artificial Intelligence and music, not only because it offers a glimpse into the future of music, but also the greater economy. Music is often the first to feel the tremors for greater economic earthquakes, so it feels like an important conversation to jump into!

We can't play their music during the podcast, however we recommend that you check out these works in combination with listening to the conversation!

Daddy's Car: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSHZ_b05W7o

The Ballad of Mr.Shadow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcGYEXJqun8

American Folk Songs EP: https://skyggewithai.bandcamp.com/

"Black is the Color” by SKYGGE featuring Pete Seeger: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=20&v=sv56kfvsQAM

On listener Jeremy Yuille's suggestion, here are a couple of tools referenced in this episode that you can use to get started with ML and creating art right now (no code required):

https://runwayml.com/

aiva.ai 


]]>18f4c3f6-2bcd-4507-bb53-4e014e16136fThu, 24 Dec 2020 00:00:00 +010001:22:10yesfull2We are joined by research scientist and Director of Spotify's CTRL lab François Pachet and his collaborator, the composer Benoit Carré to discuss how the latest in AI research offers a new paradigm for both composition and the concept of authorship and ownership. This will be one of many times we pursue conversations with researchers at the cutting edge of Artificial Intelligence and music, not only because it offers a glimpse into the future of music, but also the greater economy. Music is often the first to feel the tremors for greater economic earthquakes, so it feels like an important conversation to jump into! We can't play their music during the podcast, however we recommend that you check out these works in combination with listening to the conversation! Daddy's Car: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSHZ_b05W7o The Ballad of Mr.Shadow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcGYEXJqun8 American Folk Songs EP: https://skyggewithai.bandcamp.com/ "Black is the Color” by SKYGGE featuring Pete Seeger: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=20&v=sv56kfvsQAM On listener Jeremy Yuille's suggestion, here are a couple of tools referenced in this episode that you can use to get started with ML and creating art right now (no code required): https://runwayml.com/ aiva.aiHolly Herndon & Mat DryhurstGerman Funding of the American Avant Garde with Amy C. BealGerman Funding of the American Avant Garde with Amy C. BealThis week we are thrilled to bring a conversation with Amy C. Beal from UC Santa Cruz, whose book "New Music New Allies: Experimental Music in West Germany from the Zero Hour to Reunification" not only gives us insight into the role that German state funding has played in American experimental art since the Second World War, but also offers clues as to the unique responsibilities and complications inherent to that continued funding to the present day.&nbsp; We get to discuss how the US State Department funded Jazz concerts throughout Europe, the CIA involvement in cold war soft power art games, and she shares some novel insights as to the level of internal discrimination posed towards female Avant Garde composers of the time.&nbsp; Amy is a deeply researched guest, and we hope that the contemporary implications of this conversation are clear to see. Have a great week! Links: New Music New Allies: https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Amy-C-Beal/dp/0520247558 (https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Amy-C-Beal/dp/0520247558) This week we are thrilled to bring a conversation with Amy C. Beal from UC Santa Cruz, whose book "New Music New Allies: Experimental Music in West Germany from the Zero Hour to Reunification" not only gives us insight into the role that German state funding has played in American experimental art since the Second World War, but also offers clues as to the unique responsibilities and complications inherent to that continued funding to the present day. 

We get to discuss how the US State Department funded Jazz concerts throughout Europe, the CIA involvement in cold war soft power art games, and she shares some novel insights as to the level of internal discrimination posed towards female Avant Garde composers of the time. 

Amy is a deeply researched guest, and we hope that the contemporary implications of this conversation are clear to see.

Have a great week!

Links:

New Music New Allies: https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Amy-C-Beal/dp/0520247558

]]>1fefcade-c041-4919-9095-fa4651eb90b0Thu, 24 Dec 2020 00:00:00 +010001:46:06yesfull16This week we are thrilled to bring a conversation with Amy C. Beal from UC Santa Cruz, whose book "New Music New Allies: Experimental Music in West Germany from the Zero Hour to Reunification" not only gives us insight into the role that German state funding has played in American experimental art since the Second World War, but also offers clues as to the unique responsibilities and complications inherent to that continued funding to the present day. We get to discuss how the US State Department funded Jazz concerts throughout Europe, the CIA involvement in cold war soft power art games, and she shares some novel insights as to the level of internal discrimination posed towards female Avant Garde composers of the time. Amy is a deeply researched guest, and we hope that the contemporary implications of this conversation are clear to see. Have a great week! Links: New Music New Allies: https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Amy-C-Beal/dp/0520247558Holly Herndon & Mat DryhurstBLM, meaningful changes and meme music with David Turner (Penny Fractions)BLM, meaningful changes and meme music with David Turner (Penny Fractions)In this episode we welcome David Turner, writer and founder of the Penny Fractions newsletter, which holds a critical and often political lens to the latest developments in the music industry. In this episode we discuss the music industry response to Black Lives Matter, positive infrastructural proposals that could lead to long lasting and meaningful diversification, the meme music economy, lessons from ad hoc protest gatherings and sitting on a small plane with Radiohead and Silento. David is a deeply thoughtful and fun guest, we hope you enjoy this one! LINKS: Penny Fractions newsletter (sign up!): https://www.getrevue.co/profile/pennyfractions/issues/penny-fractions-why-did-we-pause-the-show-255631 (https://www.getrevue.co/profile/pennyfractions/issues/penny-fractions-why-did-we-pause-the-show-255631) Black Teens are Breaking the Internet and Seeing None of The Profits by Doreen St.Felix:https://www.thefader.com/2015/12/03/on-fleek-peaches-monroee-meechie-viral-vines (https://www.thefader.com/2015/12/03/on-fleek-peaches-monroee-meechie-viral-vines) Music Workers Alliance: https://musicworkersalliance.org/ (https://musicworkersalliance.org/) Aziz Mian: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX9SsfK6B24 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX9SsfK6B24) Silentó - Watch Me (Whip/Nae Nae) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjW8wmF5VWc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjW8wmF5VWc) In this episode we welcome David Turner, writer and founder of the Penny Fractions newsletter, which holds a critical and often political lens to the latest developments in the music industry.

In this episode we discuss the music industry response to Black Lives Matter, positive infrastructural proposals that could lead to long lasting and meaningful diversification, the meme music economy, lessons from ad hoc protest gatherings and sitting on a small plane with Radiohead and Silento.

David is a deeply thoughtful and fun guest, we hope you enjoy this one!

LINKS:

Penny Fractions newsletter (sign up!): https://www.getrevue.co/profile/pennyfractions/issues/penny-fractions-why-did-we-pause-the-show-255631

Black Teens are Breaking the Internet and Seeing None of The Profits by Doreen St.Felix:https://www.thefader.com/2015/12/03/on-fleek-peaches-monroee-meechie-viral-vines

Music Workers Alliance: https://musicworkersalliance.org/

Aziz Mian: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX9SsfK6B24

Silentó - Watch Me (Whip/Nae Nae) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjW8wmF5VWc

]]>23713615-2b80-4bd0-b8ce-29b3cde66103Thu, 24 Dec 2020 00:00:00 +010001:55:20yesfull9In this episode we welcome David Turner, writer and founder of the Penny Fractions newsletter, which holds a critical and often political lens to the latest developments in the music industry. In this episode we discuss the music industry response to Black Lives Matter, positive infrastructural proposals that could lead to long lasting and meaningful diversification, the meme music economy, lessons from ad hoc protest gatherings and sitting on a small plane with Radiohead and Silento. David is a deeply thoughtful and fun guest, we hope you enjoy this one! LINKS: Penny Fractions newsletter (sign up!): https://www.getrevue.co/profile/pennyfractions/issues/penny-fractions-why-did-we-pause-the-show-255631 Black Teens are Breaking the Internet and Seeing None of The Profits by Doreen St.Felix:https://www.thefader.com/2015/12/03/on-fleek-peaches-monroee-meechie-viral-vines Music Workers Alliance: https://musicworkersalliance.org/ Aziz Mian: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX9SsfK6B24 Silentó - Watch Me (Whip/Nae Nae) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjW8wmF5VWcHolly Herndon & Mat DryhurstAI for Humans with Richie Hawtin (Part 1 of 2)AI for Humans with Richie Hawtin (Part 1 of 2)Hey everyone, happy to post the first of a two part discussion with legendary electronic music figure Richie Hawtin. This conversation was facilitated in collaboration with Sonar +D and Ars Electronica, and video of the second part of our discussion covering proposals for an interdependent club music economy can be streamed live at 18:30 CEST this Friday as part of Sonar +D's online programming. Also worth tuning in for live performances by Arca, Laurel Halo and more. Full schedule here: https://sonarplusd.com/en/programs/barcelona-2020-special-edition/schedules (https://sonarplusd.com/en/programs/barcelona-2020-special-edition/schedules) In this first part of the discussion we pick his brain on the role of machine learning in music production and cover concerns familiar to this podcast about IP and the mistakes of 20th century sampling discourse.&nbsp; For the second part we will discuss concrete ways to improve equitable payment and remuneration for producers in the club economy, Richie's own work with the lobbying group AFEM on an initiative called "Get Played, Get Paid" and reflect a little on how COVID has accelerated a sense of urgency to address problems within electronic music for good. Thanks again for the support, we have more great guests lined up to share with you soon! Hey everyone,

happy to post the first of a two part discussion with legendary electronic music figure Richie Hawtin.

This conversation was facilitated in collaboration with Sonar +D and Ars Electronica, and video of the second part of our discussion covering proposals for an interdependent club music economy can be streamed live at 18:30 CEST this Friday as part of Sonar +D's online programming. Also worth tuning in for live performances by Arca, Laurel Halo and more. Full schedule here: https://sonarplusd.com/en/programs/barcelona-2020-special-edition/schedules

In this first part of the discussion we pick his brain on the role of machine learning in music production and cover concerns familiar to this podcast about IP and the mistakes of 20th century sampling discourse. 

For the second part we will discuss concrete ways to improve equitable payment and remuneration for producers in the club economy, Richie's own work with the lobbying group AFEM on an initiative called "Get Played, Get Paid" and reflect a little on how COVID has accelerated a sense of urgency to address problems within electronic music for good.

Thanks again for the support, we have more great guests lined up to share with you soon!

]]>243828e3-6ab1-4b1c-87ab-5b100fecc195Thu, 24 Dec 2020 00:00:00 +010001:07:05yesfull19Hey everyone, happy to post the first of a two part discussion with legendary electronic music figure Richie Hawtin. This conversation was facilitated in collaboration with Sonar +D and Ars Electronica, and video of the second part of our discussion covering proposals for an interdependent club music economy can be streamed live at 18:30 CEST this Friday as part of Sonar +D's online programming. Also worth tuning in for live performances by Arca, Laurel Halo and more. Full schedule here: https://sonarplusd.com/en/programs/barcelona-2020-special-edition/schedules In this first part of the discussion we pick his brain on the role of machine learning in music production and cover concerns familiar to this podcast about IP and the mistakes of 20th century sampling discourse. For the second part we will discuss concrete ways to improve equitable payment and remuneration for producers in the club economy, Richie's own work with the lobbying group AFEM on an initiative called "Get Played, Get Paid" and reflect a little on how COVID has accelerated a sense of urgency to address problems within electronic music for good. Thanks again for the support, we have more great guests lined up to share with you soon!Holly Herndon & Mat DryhurstLoops, Archetypes and being the Ian MacKaye of the art world with Martine SymsLoops, Archetypes and being the Ian MacKaye of the art world with Martine SymsBack this week with a conversation with Artist Martine Syms on her extensive body of work, loops, Vine and Tik Tok, the burden of Archetypes, "Mundane Afro-Futurism" and Building Publics through publishing. Hope you are having a safe week &lt;3 Links https://martinesy.ms/ (https://martinesy.ms/)&nbsp; https://fourthree.boilerroom.tv/film/mundane-afrofuturist-manifesto (https://fourthree.boilerroom.tv/film/mundane-afrofuturist-manifesto)&nbsp; https://dominica.la/ (https://dominica.la/)&nbsp; Back this week with a conversation with Artist Martine Syms on her extensive body of work, loops, Vine and Tik Tok, the burden of Archetypes, "Mundane Afro-Futurism" and Building Publics through publishing.

Hope you are having a safe week <3

Links

https://martinesy.ms/ 

https://fourthree.boilerroom.tv/film/mundane-afrofuturist-manifesto 

https://dominica.la/ 


]]>24f98dee-7a51-4881-bd85-3e0abeccf468Thu, 24 Dec 2020 00:00:00 +010001:55:57yesfull29Back this week with a conversation with Artist Martine Syms on her extensive body of work, loops, Vine and Tik Tok, the burden of Archetypes, "Mundane Afro-Futurism" and Building Publics through publishing. Hope you are having a safe week <3 Links https://martinesy.ms/ https://fourthree.boilerroom.tv/film/mundane-afrofuturist-manifesto https://dominica.la/Holly Herndon & Mat DryhurstReading the 21st Century on a trade ship to China with Tim Maughan (Infinite Detail)Reading the 21st Century on a trade ship to China with Tim Maughan (Infinite Detail)Since the idea of this podcast first came to mind, we had imagined starting a thread of conversations with fiction authors and artists that in many ways touch on some of issues that we might be exploring in other conversations. Today we are thrilled to kick off this direction with a conversation with Tim Maughan, the author of Infinite Detail, winner of The Guardians best science fiction and fantasy book of 2019, and a gripping and prescient work that explores the simple question: what would happen if the internet stopped working? In this conversation we discuss sailing on a trade ship to China, the 21st century skills of reading how invisible networks dictate many aspects of our lives, conservatism and relevancy in science fiction, and how the book economy works, and could work better. Tim is a generous and funny guest, we hope you enjoy it!&nbsp; There is also a weird noise that occasionally appears on Tim's side, we tried to pull it out but it made the audio very muffled. Hope it isn't too distracting! Links! Buy Infinite Detail! https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780374175412 (https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780374175412) DRONEGOD$ manifesto: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U7F5X84bj0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U7F5X84bj0) Since the idea of this podcast first came to mind, we had imagined starting a thread of conversations with fiction authors and artists that in many ways touch on some of issues that we might be exploring in other conversations.

Today we are thrilled to kick off this direction with a conversation with Tim Maughan, the author of Infinite Detail, winner of The Guardians best science fiction and fantasy book of 2019, and a gripping and prescient work that explores the simple question: what would happen if the internet stopped working?

In this conversation we discuss sailing on a trade ship to China, the 21st century skills of reading how invisible networks dictate many aspects of our lives, conservatism and relevancy in science fiction, and how the book economy works, and could work better.

Tim is a generous and funny guest, we hope you enjoy it! 

There is also a weird noise that occasionally appears on Tim's side, we tried to pull it out but it made the audio very muffled. Hope it isn't too distracting!

Links!

Buy Infinite Detail! https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780374175412

DRONEGOD$ manifesto: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U7F5X84bj0


]]>37f7fc66-5aa7-4493-bd86-4c21f4f6e8e7Thu, 24 Dec 2020 00:00:00 +010001:41:31yesfull11Since the idea of this podcast first came to mind, we had imagined starting a thread of conversations with fiction authors and artists that in many ways touch on some of issues that we might be exploring in other conversations. Today we are thrilled to kick off this direction with a conversation with Tim Maughan, the author of Infinite Detail, winner of The Guardians best science fiction and fantasy book of 2019, and a gripping and prescient work that explores the simple question: what would happen if the internet stopped working? In this conversation we discuss sailing on a trade ship to China, the 21st century skills of reading how invisible networks dictate many aspects of our lives, conservatism and relevancy in science fiction, and how the book economy works, and could work better. Tim is a generous and funny guest, we hope you enjoy it! There is also a weird noise that occasionally appears on Tim's side, we tried to pull it out but it made the audio very muffled. Hope it isn't too distracting! Links! Buy Infinite Detail! https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780374175412 DRONEGOD$ manifesto: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U7F5X84bj0Holly Herndon & Mat DryhurstProtocols, Permissions and non-human communication with the Indigenous Protocol and Artificial Intelligence Working GroupProtocols, Permissions and non-human communication with the Indigenous Protocol and Artificial Intelligence Working GroupHello everyone! Over the moon this week to welcome Professor Jason Edward Lewis and Suzanne Kite of the Indigenous Protocol and AI Working group! We discuss the origins and goals of the project, disputes over communicating with an AI elder, lessons about communicating with non human intelligences from various Indigenous groups, where utopian freedom of information ideas clash with ideas of self determination, and future plans to build a Hawaiian programming language.&nbsp; We may take a break next week, but have plenty more great conversations recorded for you all. Thanks again for your support and have a safe and warm, albeit not ideal, holiday period &lt;3 LINKS Indigenous AI https://www.indigenous-ai.net/ (https://www.indigenous-ai.net/)&nbsp; Their Position Paper: https://spectrum.library.concordia.ca/986506/7/Indigenous_Protocol_and_AI_2020.pdf (https://spectrum.library.concordia.ca/986506/7/Indigenous_Protocol_and_AI_2020.pdf)&nbsp; Professor Jason Edward Lewis http://jasonlewis.org/ (http://jasonlewis.org/)&nbsp; Suzanne Kite http://kitekitekitekite.com/ (http://kitekitekitekite.com/) Kite's beautiful album "People You Must Look At Me" https://unheardrecords.bandcamp.com/ (https://unheardrecords.bandcamp.com/)&nbsp; Hello everyone! Over the moon this week to welcome Professor Jason Edward Lewis and Suzanne Kite of the Indigenous Protocol and AI Working group!

We discuss the origins and goals of the project, disputes over communicating with an AI elder, lessons about communicating with non human intelligences from various Indigenous groups, where utopian freedom of information ideas clash with ideas of self determination, and future plans to build a Hawaiian programming language. 

We may take a break next week, but have plenty more great conversations recorded for you all. Thanks again for your support and have a safe and warm, albeit not ideal, holiday period <3

LINKS

Indigenous AI https://www.indigenous-ai.net/ 

Their Position Paper: https://spectrum.library.concordia.ca/986506/7/Indigenous_Protocol_and_AI_2020.pdf 

Professor Jason Edward Lewis

http://jasonlewis.org/ 

Suzanne Kite

http://kitekitekitekite.com/

Kite's beautiful album "People You Must Look At Me" https://unheardrecords.bandcamp.com/ 


]]>3dd15357-3825-4d04-814e-bb6636a92b99Thu, 24 Dec 2020 00:00:00 +010001:43:01yesfull32Hello everyone! Over the moon this week to welcome Professor Jason Edward Lewis and Suzanne Kite of the Indigenous Protocol and AI Working group! We discuss the origins and goals of the project, disputes over communicating with an AI elder, lessons about communicating with non human intelligences from various Indigenous groups, where utopian freedom of information ideas clash with ideas of self determination, and future plans to build a Hawaiian programming language. We may take a break next week, but have plenty more great conversations recorded for you all. Thanks again for your support and have a safe and warm, albeit not ideal, holiday period <3 LINKS Indigenous AI https://www.indigenous-ai.net/ Their Position Paper: https://spectrum.library.concordia.ca/986506/7/Indigenous_Protocol_and_AI_2020.pdf Professor Jason Edward Lewis http://jasonlewis.org/ Suzanne Kite http://kitekitekitekite.com/ Kite's beautiful album "People You Must Look At Me" https://unheardrecords.bandcamp.com/Holly Herndon & Mat DryhurstLil Miquela, Avatar creators and getting humans paid with Trevor McFedries (BRUD)Lil Miquela, Avatar creators and getting humans paid with Trevor McFedries (BRUD)In this episode we catch up with Trevor McFedries, founder of the meta media studio Brud (http://brud.fyi/ (brud.fyi)), whose digital avatar artist and influencer Lil Miquela recently caused a stir through signing with one of the worlds premier talent agencies, CAA. We discuss the origins of the project, why he sees Miquela as more of a challenge to Mickey Mouse than human artists, and also some pretty bold ideas for how avatar led projects might help us reorganise the music industry to be more equitable. In this episode we catch up with Trevor McFedries, founder of the meta media studio Brud (brud.fyi), whose digital avatar artist and influencer Lil Miquela recently caused a stir through signing with one of the worlds premier talent agencies, CAA.

We discuss the origins of the project, why he sees Miquela as more of a challenge to Mickey Mouse than human artists, and also some pretty bold ideas for how avatar led projects might help us reorganise the music industry to be more equitable.

]]>424791b6-0bbe-404d-90d2-ac9f8be4e929Thu, 24 Dec 2020 00:00:00 +010001:30:30yesfull3In this episode we catch up with Trevor McFedries, founder of the meta media studio Brud (brud.fyi), whose digital avatar artist and influencer Lil Miquela recently caused a stir through signing with one of the worlds premier talent agencies, CAA. We discuss the origins of the project, why he sees Miquela as more of a challenge to Mickey Mouse than human artists, and also some pretty bold ideas for how avatar led projects might help us reorganise the music industry to be more equitable.Holly Herndon & Mat DryhurstJustice at Spotify with The Union of Musicians and Allied WorkersJustice at Spotify with The Union of Musicians and Allied WorkersHi everyone, happy to share with you a conversation this week with The Union of Musicians and Allied Workers, whose petition making demands of Spotify to improve terms for artists has gathered over 20,000 signatures and counting. We discuss those demands in detail, other initiatives they have undertaken and take the rare opportunity to have a conversation about living under streaming with other actively touring musicians . LINKS Sign up for Justice at Spotify: https://www.unionofmusicians.org/justice-at-spotify (https://www.unionofmusicians.org/justice-at-spotify)&nbsp; Get involved with UMAW: https://www.unionofmusicians.org/ (https://www.unionofmusicians.org/)&nbsp; Follow them: https://twitter.com/UMAW_ (https://twitter.com/UMAW_)&nbsp; Buy a Downtown Boys record: https://downtownboys.bandcamp.com/ (https://downtownboys.bandcamp.com/)&nbsp; Hi everyone,

happy to share with you a conversation this week with The Union of Musicians and Allied Workers, whose petition making demands of Spotify to improve terms for artists has gathered over 20,000 signatures and counting.

We discuss those demands in detail, other initiatives they have undertaken and take the rare opportunity to have a conversation about living under streaming with other actively touring musicians .

LINKS

Sign up for Justice at Spotify: https://www.unionofmusicians.org/justice-at-spotify 

Get involved with UMAW: https://www.unionofmusicians.org/ 

Follow them: https://twitter.com/UMAW_ 

Buy a Downtown Boys record: https://downtownboys.bandcamp.com/ 

]]>426ea0b6-ac68-4b0e-909a-751a5d67c016Thu, 24 Dec 2020 00:00:00 +010001:46:10yesfull30Hi everyone, happy to share with you a conversation this week with The Union of Musicians and Allied Workers, whose petition making demands of Spotify to improve terms for artists has gathered over 20,000 signatures and counting. We discuss those demands in detail, other initiatives they have undertaken and take the rare opportunity to have a conversation about living under streaming with other actively touring musicians . LINKS Sign up for Justice at Spotify: https://www.unionofmusicians.org/justice-at-spotify Get involved with UMAW: https://www.unionofmusicians.org/ Follow them: https://twitter.com/UMAW_ Buy a Downtown Boys record: https://downtownboys.bandcamp.com/Holly Herndon & Mat DryhurstInterdependent artist payments and live streaming through COVID-19 with Nico Perez (Mixcloud)Interdependent artist payments and live streaming through COVID-19 with Nico Perez (Mixcloud)It’s a hot one! This afternoon recorded a discussion with Mixcloud CEO and DJ Nico Perez, and our studio was so hot that we had to keep all the windows open for our own health and also to keep the laptop from spontaneously combusting! As a result this recording is resplendent with the occasional child screaming or dog barking, but hopefully that adds to the experience :) Nico joined us to discuss Mixcloud's select feature for directly supporting artists, how their bold move to introduce payment splits between DJ’s and artists could potentially be taken further, club culture under COVID-19 and the new terrain of artist live streaming, and the importance of building strong foundations for strong scenes in opposition to the “one size fits all” model that is fortunately receiving its fair share of criticism online at the moment. Thanks again for supporting us!! We hope you are having a great week and are well hydrated! Links (feel free to request if we missed one!) Mixcloud Select: https://www.mixcloud.com/select/ (https://www.mixcloud.com/select/) AFEM/Get Played Get Paid: https://www.associationforelectronicmusic.org/initiatives/ (https://www.associationforelectronicmusic.org/initiatives/) It’s a hot one! This afternoon recorded a discussion with Mixcloud CEO and DJ Nico Perez, and our studio was so hot that we had to keep all the windows open for our own health and also to keep the laptop from spontaneously combusting! As a result this recording is resplendent with the occasional child screaming or dog barking, but hopefully that adds to the experience :)

Nico joined us to discuss Mixcloud's select feature for directly supporting artists, how their bold move to introduce payment splits between DJ’s and artists could potentially be taken further, club culture under COVID-19 and the new terrain of artist live streaming, and the importance of building strong foundations for strong scenes in opposition to the “one size fits all” model that is fortunately receiving its fair share of criticism online at the moment.

Thanks again for supporting us!! We hope you are having a great week and are well hydrated!

Links (feel free to request if we missed one!)

Mixcloud Select: https://www.mixcloud.com/select/

AFEM/Get Played Get Paid: https://www.associationforelectronicmusic.org/initiatives/

]]>43e5bf4b-36c2-4ee6-87ec-a5fc6e160b69Thu, 24 Dec 2020 00:00:00 +010001:35:21yesfull15It’s a hot one! This afternoon recorded a discussion with Mixcloud CEO and DJ Nico Perez, and our studio was so hot that we had to keep all the windows open for our own health and also to keep the laptop from spontaneously combusting! As a result this recording is resplendent with the occasional child screaming or dog barking, but hopefully that adds to the experience :) Nico joined us to discuss Mixcloud's select feature for directly supporting artists, how their bold move to introduce payment splits between DJ’s and artists could potentially be taken further, club culture under COVID-19 and the new terrain of artist live streaming, and the importance of building strong foundations for strong scenes in opposition to the “one size fits all” model that is fortunately receiving its fair share of criticism online at the moment. Thanks again for supporting us!! We hope you are having a great week and are well hydrated! Links (feel free to request if we missed one!) Mixcloud Select: https://www.mixcloud.com/select/ AFEM/Get Played Get Paid: https://www.associationforelectronicmusic.org/initiatives/Holly Herndon & Mat DryhurstThe Ownership Economy with Jesse Walden (Variant Fund)The Ownership Economy with Jesse Walden (Variant Fund)This week we welcome Jesse Walden, who recently announced the launch of Variant Fund, which looks to support what he describes as “The Ownership Economy”. We discuss Jesse’s background as an artist manager, his early experiments with putting tools into artists hands to control the destiny of their work online, the opportunities that decentralised networks offer to help us transition from the centralised platform economy in music and culture more broadly, and how distributing ownership to users and artists can help us transition from atomised and individualist support systems like Patreon towards more ambitious collective, interdependent(!), models online and in real space. Mat and Jesse get really deep into some of these ideas, and if some of the technical speak is unfamiliar stick with us as we spend a lot of the conversation cycling back to hopefully demystify it. We hope you enjoy it and have a great week! Links The Ownership Economy: https://variant.fund/the-ownership-economy-crypto-and-consumer-software/ (https://variant.fund/the-ownership-economy-crypto-and-consumer-software/) MediaChain Labs: http://www.mediachain.io/ (http://www.mediachain.io/) Saga: https://fallowmedia.com/2015/dec/mat/ (https://fallowmedia.com/2015/dec/mat/) Bitcoin: https://bitcoin.org/en/ (https://bitcoin.org/en/) Ethereum: https://ethereum.org/en/ (https://ethereum.org/en/) Passion Economy and The Future of Work: https://a16z.com/2019/10/08/passion-economy/ (https://a16z.com/2019/10/08/passion-economy/) Media 2020: Rise of the Renaissance Creator: https://medium.com/@jarroddicker/media-2020-rise-of-the-renaissance-creator-459daec4bc6b (https://medium.com/@jarroddicker/media-2020-rise-of-the-renaissance-creator-459daec4bc6b) Defector: https://defector.com/ (https://defector.com/) Foundation: https://withfoundation.com/ (https://withfoundation.com/) Jonas Lund Token: https://jlt.ltd/ (https://jlt.ltd/) This week we welcome Jesse Walden, who recently announced the launch of Variant Fund, which looks to support what he describes as “The Ownership Economy”. We discuss Jesse’s background as an artist manager, his early experiments with putting tools into artists hands to control the destiny of their work online, the opportunities that decentralised networks offer to help us transition from the centralised platform economy in music and culture more broadly, and how distributing ownership to users and artists can help us transition from atomised and individualist support systems like Patreon towards more ambitious collective, interdependent(!), models online and in real space.

Mat and Jesse get really deep into some of these ideas, and if some of the technical speak is unfamiliar stick with us as we spend a lot of the conversation cycling back to hopefully demystify it. We hope you enjoy it and have a great week!

Links

The Ownership Economy: https://variant.fund/the-ownership-economy-crypto-and-consumer-software/

MediaChain Labs: http://www.mediachain.io/

Saga: https://fallowmedia.com/2015/dec/mat/

Bitcoin: https://bitcoin.org/en/

Ethereum: https://ethereum.org/en/

Passion Economy and The Future of Work: https://a16z.com/2019/10/08/passion-economy/

Media 2020: Rise of the Renaissance Creator: https://medium.com/@jarroddicker/media-2020-rise-of-the-renaissance-creator-459daec4bc6b

Defector: https://defector.com/

Foundation: https://withfoundation.com/

Jonas Lund Token: https://jlt.ltd/

]]>4b4111a0-9b3a-43bd-bff3-cf949117b7ffThu, 24 Dec 2020 00:00:00 +010001:33:22yesfull14This week we welcome Jesse Walden, who recently announced the launch of Variant Fund, which looks to support what he describes as “The Ownership Economy”. We discuss Jesse’s background as an artist manager, his early experiments with putting tools into artists hands to control the destiny of their work online, the opportunities that decentralised networks offer to help us transition from the centralised platform economy in music and culture more broadly, and how distributing ownership to users and artists can help us transition from atomised and individualist support systems like Patreon towards more ambitious collective, interdependent(!), models online and in real space. Mat and Jesse get really deep into some of these ideas, and if some of the technical speak is unfamiliar stick with us as we spend a lot of the conversation cycling back to hopefully demystify it. We hope you enjoy it and have a great week! Links The Ownership Economy: https://variant.fund/the-ownership-economy-crypto-and-consumer-software/ MediaChain Labs: http://www.mediachain.io/ Saga: https://fallowmedia.com/2015/dec/mat/ Bitcoin: https://bitcoin.org/en/ Ethereum: https://ethereum.org/en/ Passion Economy and The Future of Work: https://a16z.com/2019/10/08/passion-economy/ Media 2020: Rise of the Renaissance Creator: https://medium.com/@jarroddicker/media-2020-rise-of-the-renaissance-creator-459daec4bc6b Defector: https://defector.com/ Foundation: https://withfoundation.com/ Jonas Lund Token: https://jlt.ltd/Holly Herndon & Mat DryhurstArtist Led Pricing, Scene ownership and defecting from Spotify with AudiusArtist Led Pricing, Scene ownership and defecting from Spotify with AudiusIn this episode we welcome the full Audius squad, Roneil Rumberg, Forrest Browning and Clayton Blaha to discuss their new music protocol, how it establishes the rails for artist led, rather than centrally mandated, pricing and design of economic and interactive relationships, Soundcloud and the dangers of platform risk, and the ways in which we might drag people away from centralised platforms and communicate the benefits unlocked by decentralised scene ownership. It was a wonderful discussion and I left it feeling very confident that this group of people are onto something! Head over to http://audius.co/ (audius.co) to take a look around. Have a sweet week, we’ve got a lot more coming! LINKS https://audius.co/feed (https://audius.co/) https://twitter.com/AudiusProject (https://twitter.com/AudiusProject)&nbsp; https://twitter.com/roneilr (https://twitter.com/roneilr)&nbsp; https://twitter.com/ForrestBrowning (https://twitter.com/ForrestBrowning)&nbsp; https://twitter.com/FerrariJetpack (https://twitter.com/FerrariJetpack)&nbsp; In this episode we welcome the full Audius squad, Roneil Rumberg, Forrest Browning and Clayton Blaha to discuss their new music protocol, how it establishes the rails for artist led, rather than centrally mandated, pricing and design of economic and interactive relationships, Soundcloud and the dangers of platform risk, and the ways in which we might drag people away from centralised platforms and communicate the benefits unlocked by decentralised scene ownership.

It was a wonderful discussion and I left it feeling very confident that this group of people are onto something! Head over to audius.co to take a look around.

Have a sweet week, we’ve got a lot more coming!

LINKS

https://audius.co/

https://twitter.com/AudiusProject 

https://twitter.com/roneilr 

https://twitter.com/ForrestBrowning 

https://twitter.com/FerrariJetpack 

]]>554ed202-ae50-499a-986d-f4e8423b34a4Thu, 24 Dec 2020 00:00:00 +010001:51:34yesfull28In this episode we welcome the full Audius squad, Roneil Rumberg, Forrest Browning and Clayton Blaha to discuss their new music protocol, how it establishes the rails for artist led, rather than centrally mandated, pricing and design of economic and interactive relationships, Soundcloud and the dangers of platform risk, and the ways in which we might drag people away from centralised platforms and communicate the benefits unlocked by decentralised scene ownership. It was a wonderful discussion and I left it feeling very confident that this group of people are onto something! Head over to audius.co to take a look around. Have a sweet week, we’ve got a lot more coming!Holly Herndon & Mat DryhurstAI anatomies and forewarnings with Kate Crawford (AI Now)AI anatomies and forewarnings with Kate Crawford (AI Now)In this episode we speak with Kate Crawford,&nbsp;founder of the AI Now Institute and professor who has spent the last decade studying the political implications of data systems, machine learning and artificial intelligence.&nbsp; We discuss the anatomy of AI systems and full&nbsp;ecosystem of human and material&nbsp;resources behind an Amazon echo, the need to develop an&nbsp;understanding of&nbsp;the exponential accumulation of power under platform capitalism, the use of AI systems in predictive policing and other controversial areas, and Kate’s parallel experience as an electronic musician. This episode ends rather abruptly as we got lost in conversation and Kate had to run, so forgive us for the atypical ending!&nbsp; Relevant Kate links: AI Now Institute: https://ainowinstitute.org/ (https://ainowinstitute.org/) Anatomy of AI: https://anatomyof.ai/ (https://anatomyof.ai/) Links we raised: Stance Features of Youtube Celebrities by Katri Mustonen: https://jyx.jyu.fi/bitstream/handle/123456789/56988/1/URN%3ANBN%3Afi%3Ajyu-201802011411.pdf (https://jyx.jyu.fi/bitstream/handle/123456789/56988/1/URN%3ANBN%3Afi%3Ajyu-201802011411.pdf) In this episode we speak with Kate Crawford, founder of the AI Now Institute and professor who has spent the last decade studying the political implications of data systems, machine learning and artificial intelligence. 

We discuss the anatomy of AI systems and full ecosystem of human and material resources behind an Amazon echo, the need to develop an understanding of the exponential accumulation of power under platform capitalism, the use of AI systems in predictive policing and other controversial areas, and Kate’s parallel experience as an electronic musician.

This episode ends rather abruptly as we got lost in conversation and Kate had to run, so forgive us for the atypical ending! 

Relevant Kate links:

AI Now Institute: https://ainowinstitute.org/

Anatomy of AI: https://anatomyof.ai/

Links we raised:

Stance Features of Youtube Celebrities by Katri Mustonen: https://jyx.jyu.fi/bitstream/handle/123456789/56988/1/URN%3ANBN%3Afi%3Ajyu-201802011411.pdf

]]>58fe70d9-4bd8-459b-b2e0-319249ae7021Thu, 24 Dec 2020 00:00:00 +010001:51:19yesfull8In this episode we speak with Kate Crawford, founder of the AI Now Institute and professor who has spent the last decade studying the political implications of data systems, machine learning and artificial intelligence. We discuss the anatomy of AI systems and full ecosystem of human and material resources behind an Amazon echo, the need to develop an understanding of the exponential accumulation of power under platform capitalism, the use of AI systems in predictive policing and other controversial areas, and Kate’s parallel experience as an electronic musician. This episode ends rather abruptly as we got lost in conversation and Kate had to run, so forgive us for the atypical ending! Relevant Kate links: AI Now Institute: https://ainowinstitute.org/ Anatomy of AI: https://anatomyof.ai/ Links we raised: Stance Features of Youtube Celebrities by Katri Mustonen: https://jyx.jyu.fi/bitstream/handle/123456789/56988/1/URN%3ANBN%3Afi%3Ajyu-201802011411.pdfHolly Herndon & Mat DryhurstGood Elitism and The New Philistinism with Eliane GlaserGood Elitism and The New Philistinism with Eliane GlaserCrazy week eh ;P Let's talk about elitism. Also, buy Eliane's incredible book Elitism: A Progressive Defense https://www.bitebackpublishing.com/books/elitism-a-progressive-defence (https://www.bitebackpublishing.com/books/elitism-a-progressive-defence) Crazy week eh ;P

Let's talk about elitism.


Also, buy Eliane's incredible book Elitism: A Progressive Defense

https://www.bitebackpublishing.com/books/elitism-a-progressive-defence


]]>595f8651-8f01-45a4-abc5-e2af7dbd04bfThu, 24 Dec 2020 00:00:00 +010001:48:06yesfull26Crazy week eh ;P Let's talk about elitism. Also, buy Eliane's incredible book Elitism: A Progressive Defense https://www.bitebackpublishing.com/books/elitism-a-progressive-defenceHolly Herndon & Mat DryhurstSound System IP and Rude Citizenship with Professor Larisa Kingston Mann (DJ Ripley)Sound System IP and Rude Citizenship with Professor Larisa Kingston Mann (DJ Ripley)For this episode we welcome academic and DJ Larisa Kingston Mann from Temple University in Philadelphia, whose work analyzes the relationship between law, technology, sovereignty and creativity, especially focusing on the ways changing media technologies affect communities’ ability to flourish Her PhD thesis “Rude Citizenship”, soon to be turned into a book, looks at the ways in which Jamaican popular music practices challenge the colonial underpinnings of copyright law and of sovereignty itself. We discuss the economics of Jamaican sound system culture, the sticky topic of copyright as a flawed protection for creators, and proposals for a fairer DJ economy. We had a few sound issues that we tried to clean up for this episode, and Larissa is a generous and fun guest. I hope you enjoy it and are having a great week! Thanks again for the support :) On Larisa's recommendation, we donated to support The Attic Youth Center in Philly. The Attic Youth Center is the only organization in Philadelphia exclusively serving lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and questioning (LGBTQ) youth. https://www.atticyouthcenter.org/ (https://www.atticyouthcenter.org/) Links Sonic Publics Booming at the Margins: Ethnic Radio, Intimacy, and Nonlinear Innovation in Media:&nbsp;https://ijoc.org/index.php/ijoc/article/view/8591 (https://ijoc.org/index.php/ijoc/article/view/8591) White Faces in Intimate Spaces: Jamaican Popular Music in Global Circulation:&nbsp;https://academic.oup.com/ccc/article-abstract/9/2/266/3979315 (https://academic.oup.com/ccc/article-abstract/9/2/266/3979315) For this episode we welcome academic and DJ Larisa Kingston Mann from Temple University in Philadelphia, whose work analyzes the relationship between law, technology, sovereignty and creativity, especially focusing on the ways changing media technologies affect communities’ ability to flourish

Her PhD thesis “Rude Citizenship”, soon to be turned into a book, looks at the ways in which Jamaican popular music practices challenge the colonial underpinnings of copyright law and of sovereignty itself. We discuss the economics of Jamaican sound system culture, the sticky topic of copyright as a flawed protection for creators, and proposals for a fairer DJ economy.

We had a few sound issues that we tried to clean up for this episode, and Larissa is a generous and fun guest. I hope you enjoy it and are having a great week!

Thanks again for the support :)

On Larisa's recommendation, we donated to support The Attic Youth Center in Philly. The Attic Youth Center is the only organization in Philadelphia exclusively serving lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and questioning (LGBTQ) youth. https://www.atticyouthcenter.org/

Links

Sonic Publics Booming at the Margins: Ethnic Radio, Intimacy, and Nonlinear Innovation in Media: https://ijoc.org/index.php/ijoc/article/view/8591

White Faces in Intimate Spaces: Jamaican Popular Music in Global Circulation: https://academic.oup.com/ccc/article-abstract/9/2/266/3979315

]]>5b49a9f2-38d0-4b78-b460-42d35be93698Thu, 24 Dec 2020 00:00:00 +010001:35:12yesfull12For this episode we welcome academic and DJ Larisa Kingston Mann from Temple University in Philadelphia, whose work analyzes the relationship between law, technology, sovereignty and creativity, especially focusing on the ways changing media technologies affect communities’ ability to flourish Her PhD thesis “Rude Citizenship”, soon to be turned into a book, looks at the ways in which Jamaican popular music practices challenge the colonial underpinnings of copyright law and of sovereignty itself. We discuss the economics of Jamaican sound system culture, the sticky topic of copyright as a flawed protection for creators, and proposals for a fairer DJ economy. We had a few sound issues that we tried to clean up for this episode, and Larissa is a generous and fun guest. I hope you enjoy it and are having a great week! Thanks again for the support :) On Larisa's recommendation, we donated to support The Attic Youth Center in Philly. The Attic Youth Center is the only organization in Philadelphia exclusively serving lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and questioning (LGBTQ) youth. https://www.atticyouthcenter.org/ Links Sonic Publics Booming at the Margins: Ethnic Radio, Intimacy, and Nonlinear Innovation in Media: https://ijoc.org/index.php/ijoc/article/view/8591 White Faces in Intimate Spaces: Jamaican Popular Music in Global Circulation: https://academic.oup.com/ccc/article-abstract/9/2/266/3979315Holly Herndon & Mat DryhurstPharmako-AI: co-writing with an AI and navigating the dark hallways of the mind with K Allado-McDowell (and GPT-3)Pharmako-AI: co-writing with an AI and navigating the dark hallways of the mind with K Allado-McDowell (and GPT-3)In the advent of their new book “Pharmako-AI”, co-written with OpenAI’s GPT-3 system, we speak to K Allado-McDowell (and GPT-3) about creating with an inhuman (and a human), the nature and history of intelligence, and focussing art and technology towards healing. K Allado-McDowell is a writer, speaker, and musician. They are the author, with GPT-3, of the book https://ignota.org/products/pharmako-ai (Pharmako-AI), and are co-editor, with Ben Vickers, of https://ignota.org/products/atlas-of-anomalous-ai (The Atlas of Anomalous AI). Allado-McDowell records and releases music under the name https://qenric.bandcamp.com/album/earthly-love (Qenric). Allado-McDowell established the https://medium.com/artists-and-machine-intelligence (Artists + Machine Intelligence) program at Google AI. &nbsp;They are a conference speaker, educator and consultant to think-tanks and institutions seeking to align their work with deeper traditions of human understanding. Buy Pharmako-AI: https://ignota.org/products/pharmako-ai (https://ignota.org/products/pharmako-ai) Check out Kalla's other work: &nbsp;http://kalladomcdowell.com/ (kalladomcdowell.com) The Inclosure of Reason (by Anil Bawa-Cavia): https://technosphere-magazine.hkw.de/p/The-Inclosure-of-Reason-ecTsvnENeC1GXtmgRNaMH9 (https://technosphere-magazine.hkw.de/p/The-Inclosure-of-Reason-ecTsvnENeC1GXtmgRNaMH9) In the advent of their new book “Pharmako-AI”, co-written with OpenAI’s GPT-3 system, we speak to K Allado-McDowell (and GPT-3) about creating with an inhuman (and a human), the nature and history of intelligence, and focussing art and technology towards healing.

K Allado-McDowell is a writer, speaker, and musician. They are the author, with GPT-3, of the book Pharmako-AI, and are co-editor, with Ben Vickers, of The Atlas of Anomalous AI. Allado-McDowell records and releases music under the name Qenric.

Allado-McDowell established the Artists + Machine Intelligence program at Google AI.  They are a conference speaker, educator and consultant to think-tanks and institutions seeking to align their work with deeper traditions of human understanding.

Buy Pharmako-AI: https://ignota.org/products/pharmako-ai

Check out Kalla's other work:  kalladomcdowell.com

The Inclosure of Reason (by Anil Bawa-Cavia): https://technosphere-magazine.hkw.de/p/The-Inclosure-of-Reason-ecTsvnENeC1GXtmgRNaMH9

]]>633ba953-2462-4af0-baf4-ae8399080277Thu, 24 Dec 2020 00:00:00 +010001:35:40yesfull27In the advent of their new book “Pharmako-AI”, co-written with OpenAI’s GPT-3 system, we speak to K Allado-McDowell (and GPT-3) about creating with an inhuman (and a human), the nature and history of intelligence, and focussing art and technology towards healing. K Allado-McDowell is a writer, speaker, and musician. They are the author, with GPT-3, of the book Pharmako-AI, and are co-editor, with Ben Vickers, of The Atlas of Anomalous AI. Allado-McDowell records and releases music under the name Qenric. Allado-McDowell established the Artists + Machine Intelligence program at Google AI. They are a conference speaker, educator and consultant to think-tanks and institutions seeking to align their work with deeper traditions of human understanding. Buy Pharmako-AI: https://ignota.org/products/pharmako-ai Check out Kalla's other work: kalladomcdowell.com The Inclosure of Reason (by Anil Bawa-Cavia): https://technosphere-magazine.hkw.de/p/The-Inclosure-of-Reason-ecTsvnENeC1GXtmgRNaMH9Holly Herndon & Mat DryhurstSquad Wealth with Other InternetSquad Wealth with Other InternetReally happy to welcome Other Internet to the podcast, an independent strategy and research squad based between New York and Berlin. Their recent essay “Squad Wealth” looks at the phenomenon of interdependent squads emerging on the internet as a necessary progression from the atomized independence economy. We discuss Squad Wealth and their other incredibly useful conception of Headless Brands, the redundancy of the binary left/right axis when tracking emerging cultural developments, critiques that have been leveled against their Squad analysis, and different decentralized institutions and arrangements that are forming to spread big squad energy. Wonderful group of people. Hope you are having a good week! We have a bunch of great guests lined up into the fall, and now have electricity in the space. Although given the way things work in Berlin it might be a few months before we might have an internet connection… Links https://otherinter.net/squad-wealth/ (https://otherinter.net/squad-wealth/) https://otherinter.net/web3/headless-brands/ (https://otherinter.net/web3/headless-brands/) Really happy to welcome Other Internet to the podcast, an independent strategy and research squad based between New York and Berlin.

Their recent essay “Squad Wealth” looks at the phenomenon of interdependent squads emerging on the internet as a necessary progression from the atomized independence economy.

We discuss Squad Wealth and their other incredibly useful conception of Headless Brands, the redundancy of the binary left/right axis when tracking emerging cultural developments, critiques that have been leveled against their Squad analysis, and different decentralized institutions and arrangements that are forming to spread big squad energy.

Wonderful group of people. Hope you are having a good week! We have a bunch of great guests lined up into the fall, and now have electricity in the space. Although given the way things work in Berlin it might be a few months before we might have an internet connection…

Links

https://otherinter.net/squad-wealth/

https://otherinter.net/web3/headless-brands/


]]>6c244d48-a504-4cc2-99ae-4a68dd90c76fThu, 24 Dec 2020 00:00:00 +010001:40:15yesfull18Really happy to welcome Other Internet to the podcast, an independent strategy and research squad based between New York and Berlin. Their recent essay “Squad Wealth” looks at the phenomenon of interdependent squads emerging on the internet as a necessary progression from the atomized independence economy. We discuss Squad Wealth and their other incredibly useful conception of Headless Brands, the redundancy of the binary left/right axis when tracking emerging cultural developments, critiques that have been leveled against their Squad analysis, and different decentralized institutions and arrangements that are forming to spread big squad energy. Wonderful group of people. Hope you are having a good week! We have a bunch of great guests lined up into the fall, and now have electricity in the space. Although given the way things work in Berlin it might be a few months before we might have an internet connection… Links https://otherinter.net/squad-wealth/ https://otherinter.net/web3/headless-brands/Holly Herndon & Mat DryhurstWhat would a new club economy look like? Part 2 with Richie HawtinWhat would a new club economy look like? Part 2 with Richie HawtinThe second part of our discussion facilitated in collaboration with Sonar +D and Ars Electronica. Particularly excited to share this one, where we reflect upon what foundations of the club economy appear to be most exposed by the current crisis, discuss Richie's work with AFEM to help get producers paid, and speculate on the possibility of new and necessary economic relationships between DJ's and producers under a guild model. Links AFEM: https://www.associationforelectronicmusic.org/initiatives/ (https://www.associationforelectronicmusic.org/initiatives/)&nbsp; The second part of our discussion facilitated in collaboration with Sonar +D and Ars Electronica.

Particularly excited to share this one, where we reflect upon what foundations of the club economy appear to be most exposed by the current crisis, discuss Richie's work with AFEM to help get producers paid, and speculate on the possibility of new and necessary economic relationships between DJ's and producers under a guild model.

Links

AFEM: https://www.associationforelectronicmusic.org/initiatives/ 

]]>7e99a2f8-93bc-464c-b691-f411206d6c40Thu, 24 Dec 2020 00:00:00 +010001:07:06yesfull20The second part of our discussion facilitated in collaboration with Sonar +D and Ars Electronica. Particularly excited to share this one, where we reflect upon what foundations of the club economy appear to be most exposed by the current crisis, discuss Richie's work with AFEM to help get producers paid, and speculate on the possibility of new and necessary economic relationships between DJ's and producers under a guild model. Links AFEM: https://www.associationforelectronicmusic.org/initiatives/Holly Herndon & Mat DryhurstArtist tokens, Community Owned Institutions and the Reliance Alliance with ZORAArtist tokens, Community Owned Institutions and the Reliance Alliance with ZORAThis week we welcome Dee and Jacob from Zora, a new organisation that is building tools for artists to issue tokens around their creative practices. We discuss their idea of dynamic pricing of art releases and at the advent of the musician RAC releasing his $RAC token through ZORA, the new space of artists and their audiences owning a stake in the value they interdependently create in the world. We also talk a tour around the very short history of artist token models, how these new tools are enabling financial literacy, what not to do, and what other potential models could emerge from this nascent era of collectively owned cultural institutions. This was a really fun and optimistic conversation, and if you are interested to learn more about the project, be sure to check out http://ourzora.com/ (http://ourzora.com) or reach out to Dee or Jacob on twitter. Have a great week and thanks again for your support! LINKS http://ourzora.com/ (http://ourzora.com) https://twitter.com/js_horne (https://twitter.com/js_horne)&nbsp; https://twitter.com/dg_goens (https://twitter.com/dg_goens)&nbsp; This week we welcome Dee and Jacob from Zora, a new organisation that is building tools for artists to issue tokens around their creative practices.

We discuss their idea of dynamic pricing of art releases and at the advent of the musician RAC releasing his $RAC token through ZORA, the new space of artists and their audiences owning a stake in the value they interdependently create in the world. We also talk a tour around the very short history of artist token models, how these new tools are enabling financial literacy, what not to do, and what other potential models could emerge from this nascent era of collectively owned cultural institutions.

This was a really fun and optimistic conversation, and if you are interested to learn more about the project, be sure to check out http://ourzora.com or reach out to Dee or Jacob on twitter.

Have a great week and thanks again for your support!

LINKS

http://ourzora.com

https://twitter.com/js_horne 

https://twitter.com/dg_goens 

]]>80fc07b2-8f90-48e0-97ad-e7e3a825d18bThu, 24 Dec 2020 00:00:00 +010001:46:37yesfull23This week we welcome Dee and Jacob from Zora, a new organisation that is building tools for artists to issue tokens around their creative practices. We discuss their idea of dynamic pricing of art releases and at the advent of the musician RAC releasing his $RAC token through ZORA, the new space of artists and their audiences owning a stake in the value they interdependently create in the world. We also talk a tour around the very short history of artist token models, how these new tools are enabling financial literacy, what not to do, and what other potential models could emerge from this nascent era of collectively owned cultural institutions. This was a really fun and optimistic conversation, and if you are interested to learn more about the project, be sure to check out http://ourzora.com or reach out to Dee or Jacob on twitter. Have a great week and thanks again for your support! LINKS http://ourzora.com https://twitter.com/js_horne https://twitter.com/dg_goensHolly Herndon & Mat DryhurstHope Running, Economic Fiction and MetaModernism with Simon de la RouviereHope Running, Economic Fiction and MetaModernism with Simon de la RouviereIn celebration of his new book "Hope Runners of Gridlock", we chat to polymath Simon de la Rouviere about designing new economies, never ending stories, Metamodernism and maintaining hope! Buy the book!&nbsp;https://blog.simondlr.com/posts/hope-runners-of-gridlock (https://blog.simondlr.com/posts/hope-runners-of-gridlock) Follow Simon's writings! https://blog.simondlr.com/ (https://blog.simondlr.com/)&nbsp; Follow Simon! https://twitter.com/simondlr (https://twitter.com/simondlr)&nbsp; In celebration of his new book "Hope Runners of Gridlock", we chat to polymath Simon de la Rouviere about designing new economies, never ending stories, Metamodernism and maintaining hope!

Buy the book! https://blog.simondlr.com/posts/hope-runners-of-gridlock

Follow Simon's writings! https://blog.simondlr.com/ 

Follow Simon! https://twitter.com/simondlr 

]]>a43a0dad-98b1-461d-816e-e060865ae44cThu, 24 Dec 2020 00:00:00 +010002:02:32yesfull31In celebration of his new book "Hope Runners of Gridlock", we chat to polymath Simon de la Rouviere about designing new economies, never ending stories, Metamodernism and maintaining hope! Buy the book! https://blog.simondlr.com/posts/hope-runners-of-gridlock Follow Simon's writings! https://blog.simondlr.com/ Follow Simon! https://twitter.com/simondlrHolly Herndon & Mat DryhurstStreaming Issues with Liz PellyStreaming Issues with Liz PellyIn this episode we speak with the writer Liz Pelly, who over the past 5 years has written a series of revelatory critical pieces about the streaming economy for The Baffler. We discuss whether the distinction of Independence is all that useful in music at this point in history, take a look at the ways in which the streaming platforms flatter some kinds of music and have flattered to deceive for others, and question what the recent Spotify exclusivity deal with Joe Rogan might mean for musicians. This is a nice and long conversation, and we had one or two connection issues, so forgive us if you notice one or two jarring edits! Check out Liz's work online here: https://lizpelly.com/ (https://lizpelly.com/) https://thebaffler.com/authors/liz-pelly (https://thebaffler.com/authors/liz-pelly) In this episode we speak with the writer Liz Pelly, who over the past 5 years has written a series of revelatory critical pieces about the streaming economy for The Baffler.

We discuss whether the distinction of Independence is all that useful in music at this point in history, take a look at the ways in which the streaming platforms flatter some kinds of music and have flattered to deceive for others, and question what the recent Spotify exclusivity deal with Joe Rogan might mean for musicians.

This is a nice and long conversation, and we had one or two connection issues, so forgive us if you notice one or two jarring edits!

Check out Liz's work online here:

https://lizpelly.com/

https://thebaffler.com/authors/liz-pelly

]]>b52c0fce-1b32-4196-bee7-857cb5438655Thu, 24 Dec 2020 00:00:00 +010001:42:55yesfull5In this episode we speak with the writer Liz Pelly, who over the past 5 years has written a series of revelatory critical pieces about the streaming economy for The Baffler. We discuss whether the distinction of Independence is all that useful in music at this point in history, take a look at the ways in which the streaming platforms flatter some kinds of music and have flattered to deceive for others, and question what the recent Spotify exclusivity deal with Joe Rogan might mean for musicians. This is a nice and long conversation, and we had one or two connection issues, so forgive us if you notice one or two jarring edits! Check out Liz's work online here: https://lizpelly.com/ (https://lizpelly.com/) https://thebaffler.com/authors/liz-pelly (https://thebaffler.com/authors/liz-pelly)Holly Herndon & Mat DryhurstAugmenting creativity and ethical AI with Jesse Engel (Google Magenta)Augmenting creativity and ethical AI with Jesse Engel (Google Magenta)In this episode we talk with Jesse Engel, musician, Senior Research Scientist at Google Brain and creative lead of the Magenta project.&nbsp; Magenta is an open source research project exploring the role of machine learning as a tool in the creative process, developed by numerous researchers and engineers from the Google brain team, Google’s self directed machine intelligence group.&nbsp; Amongst many things we discuss the role and research focus of Magenta, look at how research lab OpenAI’s recent Jukebox project raised some necessary ethical debates around the puppeteering of living artists voices and styles, get psychedelic about how making music technology precedes spoken language, and discuss his latest exciting project. Check out the tools they have developed and reach out to Magenta here: https://magenta.tensorflow.org/ (https://magenta.tensorflow.org/) In this episode we talk with Jesse Engel, musician, Senior Research Scientist at Google Brain and creative lead of the Magenta project. 

Magenta is an open source research project exploring the role of machine learning as a tool in the creative process, developed by numerous researchers and engineers from the Google brain team, Google’s self directed machine intelligence group. 

Amongst many things we discuss the role and research focus of Magenta, look at how research lab OpenAI’s recent Jukebox project raised some necessary ethical debates around the puppeteering of living artists voices and styles, get psychedelic about how making music technology precedes spoken language, and discuss his latest exciting project.

Check out the tools they have developed and reach out to Magenta here:

https://magenta.tensorflow.org/

]]>c71fc771-1f96-4643-9032-90bc12e41f6dThu, 24 Dec 2020 00:00:00 +010001:35:24yesfull4In this episode we talk with Jesse Engel, musician, Senior Research Scientist at Google Brain and creative lead of the Magenta project. Magenta is an open source research project exploring the role of machine learning as a tool in the creative process, developed by numerous researchers and engineers from the Google brain team, Google’s self directed machine intelligence group. Amongst many things we discuss the role and research focus of Magenta, look at how research lab OpenAI’s recent Jukebox project raised some necessary ethical debates around the puppeteering of living artists voices and styles, get psychedelic about how making music technology precedes spoken language, and discuss his latest exciting project. Check out the tools they have developed and reach out to Magenta here: https://magenta.tensorflow.org/Holly Herndon & Mat DryhurstAnarchist UBI and weird fatigue with Sarah Friend (Circles UBI)Anarchist UBI and weird fatigue with Sarah Friend (Circles UBI)We join Sarah Friend, core developer from talk-of-the-town project Circles UBI to discuss the crazy few weeks they have been having trying to give away a UBI through social trust networks. We pull apart how the project works and discuss the history of local currencies, potential dystopian scenarios, "weird fatigue" and the turbulence of pursuing an art practice that involves building things that do stuff. We went on a recording frenzy this past week so have a bunch more great episodes lined up. Hope you are all good! Links! Circles UBI https://circles.garden/ (https://circles.garden/)&nbsp; Sarah's other work https://isthisa.com/ (https://isthisa.com/)&nbsp; 2017: The year the blockchain got weird https://www.coindesk.com/2017-year-blockchain-got-weird (https://www.coindesk.com/2017-year-blockchain-got-weird)&nbsp; We join Sarah Friend, core developer from talk-of-the-town project Circles UBI to discuss the crazy few weeks they have been having trying to give away a UBI through social trust networks. We pull apart how the project works and discuss the history of local currencies, potential dystopian scenarios, "weird fatigue" and the turbulence of pursuing an art practice that involves building things that do stuff.

We went on a recording frenzy this past week so have a bunch more great episodes lined up. Hope you are all good!

Links!

Circles UBI

https://circles.garden/ 

Sarah's other work

https://isthisa.com/ 

2017: The year the blockchain got weird

https://www.coindesk.com/2017-year-blockchain-got-weird 

]]>ca54a28b-87d6-4cd5-9d14-bdedea7799c7Thu, 24 Dec 2020 00:00:00 +010001:33:52yesfull24We join Sarah Friend, core developer from talk-of-the-town project Circles UBI to discuss the crazy few weeks they have been having trying to give away a UBI through social trust networks. We pull apart how the project works and discuss the history of local currencies, potential dystopian scenarios, "weird fatigue" and the turbulence of pursuing an art practice that involves building things that do stuff. We went on a recording frenzy this past week so have a bunch more great episodes lined up. Hope you are all good! Links! Circles UBI https://circles.garden/ Sarah's other work https://isthisa.com/ 2017: The year the blockchain got weird https://www.coindesk.com/2017-year-blockchain-got-weirdHolly Herndon & Mat DryhurstCollaborating with the dead, Hildegard of Bingen, genius and villainy with Huw Lemmey (Bad Gays)Collaborating with the dead, Hildegard of Bingen, genius and villainy with Huw Lemmey (Bad Gays)This week we are thrilled to welcome the author and critic Huw Lemmey in celebration of his new novel https://ignota.org/products/unknown-language (Unknown Language), written in collaboration with Hildegard of Bingen and out now on Ignota books We discuss what it is like to channel the dead and write a novel together, Hildegard's visions and genius, constructed languages, and Bad Gays; Huw’s wonderful podcast with the historian Ben Miller. We could have talked for a few lifetimes :) Thanks again for the support and have a wonderful week! LINKS Unknown Language out now on Ignota Books https://ignota.org/products/unknown-language (https://ignota.org/products/unknown-language)&nbsp; Utopian Drivel, Huw's weekly Substack! https://huw.substack.com/ (https://huw.substack.com/)&nbsp; Bad Gays pod! https://badgayspod.com/ (https://badgayspod.com/)&nbsp; Huw on Twitter https://twitter.com/huwlemmey (https://twitter.com/huwlemmey)&nbsp; This week we are thrilled to welcome the author and critic Huw Lemmey in celebration of his new novel Unknown Language, written in collaboration with Hildegard of Bingen and out now on Ignota books

We discuss what it is like to channel the dead and write a novel together, Hildegard's visions and genius, constructed languages, and Bad Gays; Huw’s wonderful podcast with the historian Ben Miller.

We could have talked for a few lifetimes :)

Thanks again for the support and have a wonderful week!

LINKS

Unknown Language out now on Ignota Books

https://ignota.org/products/unknown-language 

Utopian Drivel, Huw's weekly Substack!

https://huw.substack.com/ 

Bad Gays pod!

https://badgayspod.com/ 

Huw on Twitter

https://twitter.com/huwlemmey 


]]>cb4f6623-282a-4497-a7dd-b2dbe550155aThu, 24 Dec 2020 00:00:00 +010001:57:25yesfull22This week we are thrilled to welcome the author and critic Huw Lemmey in celebration of his new novel Unknown Language, written in collaboration with Hildegard of Bingen and out now on Ignota books We discuss what it is like to channel the dead and write a novel together, Hildegard's visions and genius, constructed languages, and Bad Gays; Huw’s wonderful podcast with the historian Ben Miller. We could have talked for a few lifetimes :) Thanks again for the support and have a wonderful week! LINKS Unknown Language out now on Ignota Books https://ignota.org/products/unknown-language Utopian Drivel, Huw's weekly Substack! https://huw.substack.com/ Bad Gays pod! https://badgayspod.com/ Huw on Twitter https://twitter.com/huwlemmeyHolly Herndon & Mat DryhurstPlatform co-ops and illusory democratisation with Nathan SchneiderPlatform co-ops and illusory democratisation with Nathan SchneiderWell what a week! Sorry this is a little late, it felt a little weird to release an episode during the election - but we didn’t expect for it to drag on this much! In this episode we welcome Nathan Schneider, professor of media studies at the&nbsp;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Colorado_Boulder (University of Colorado Boulder), significant player in the platform co-operativism movement and the originator of the term “exit to community” We discuss the state of platform co-operativism today, the intersections between more traditional coop communities and the emerging crypto world, the history of co-ops, and as usual we get to gleefully dunk on the mythologies of the centralised platform economy. We will be back on schedule next week and hope this finds you well, hopefully we will be in an ever-so-slightly better world by then. xxxx Well what a week! Sorry this is a little late, it felt a little weird to release an episode during the election - but we didn’t expect for it to drag on this much!

In this episode we welcome Nathan Schneider, professor of media studies at the University of Colorado Boulder, significant player in the platform co-operativism movement and the originator of the term “exit to community”

We discuss the state of platform co-operativism today, the intersections between more traditional coop communities and the emerging crypto world, the history of co-ops, and as usual we get to gleefully dunk on the mythologies of the centralised platform economy.

We will be back on schedule next week and hope this finds you well, hopefully we will be in an ever-so-slightly better world by then.

xxxx

]]>ddafad61-6305-464e-b274-765b69bebc91Thu, 24 Dec 2020 00:00:00 +010001:05:56yesfull25Well what a week! Sorry this is a little late, it felt a little weird to release an episode during the election - but we didn’t expect for it to drag on this much! In this episode we welcome Nathan Schneider, professor of media studies at the University of Colorado Boulder, significant player in the platform co-operativism movement and the originator of the term “exit to community” We discuss the state of platform co-operativism today, the intersections between more traditional coop communities and the emerging crypto world, the history of co-ops, and as usual we get to gleefully dunk on the mythologies of the centralised platform economy. We will be back on schedule next week and hope this finds you well, hopefully we will be in an ever-so-slightly better world by then. xxxxHolly Herndon & Mat DryhurstBerlin Fictions and Hyperstitional Anxiety with Elvia Wilk (Oval)Berlin Fictions and Hyperstitional Anxiety with Elvia Wilk (Oval)For the second part of our conversation series with contemporary fiction writers we are over the moon to have a chat with Elvia Wilk, who released her debut novel “Oval” last year to great acclaim. Oval is a beautiful book that depicts a world at vastly different scales, not least addressing the contemporary role of the artist as embedded in wider economic systems. We discuss how art communities in the shifting economic landscape of Berlin inspired some of the books themes, the increasingly entangled relationships between artists and corporations, the hyperstitional anxiety of seeing gestures from marginal scenes influence wider culture from your bedroom while also simultaneously feeling very little agency over the future, and how some of her writing related to machine learning takes on new dimension in the wake of OpenAI’s release of the GPT3 API. Thanks again for listening and have a great week :) Links Read Oval - https://softskull.com/dd-product/oval/ (https://softskull.com/dd-product/oval/) "My Kid Could Do That" - https://nplusonemag.com/online-only/online-only/my-kid-could-do-that/ (https://nplusonemag.com/online-only/online-only/my-kid-could-do-that/) GPT-3 - https://github.com/openai/gpt-3 (https://github.com/openai/gpt-3) For the second part of our conversation series with contemporary fiction writers we are over the moon to have a chat with Elvia Wilk, who released her debut novel “Oval” last year to great acclaim.

Oval is a beautiful book that depicts a world at vastly different scales, not least addressing the contemporary role of the artist as embedded in wider economic systems. We discuss how art communities in the shifting economic landscape of Berlin inspired some of the books themes, the increasingly entangled relationships between artists and corporations, the hyperstitional anxiety of seeing gestures from marginal scenes influence wider culture from your bedroom while also simultaneously feeling very little agency over the future, and how some of her writing related to machine learning takes on new dimension in the wake of OpenAI’s release of the GPT3 API.

Thanks again for listening and have a great week :)

Links

Read Oval - https://softskull.com/dd-product/oval/

"My Kid Could Do That" - https://nplusonemag.com/online-only/online-only/my-kid-could-do-that/

GPT-3 - https://github.com/openai/gpt-3

]]>e3f2210b-f014-4867-929d-28e411db1a28Thu, 24 Dec 2020 00:00:00 +010001:44:21yesfull13For the second part of our conversation series with contemporary fiction writers we are over the moon to have a chat with Elvia Wilk, who released her debut novel “Oval” last year to great acclaim. Oval is a beautiful book that depicts a world at vastly different scales, not least addressing the contemporary role of the artist as embedded in wider economic systems. We discuss how art communities in the shifting economic landscape of Berlin inspired some of the books themes, the increasingly entangled relationships between artists and corporations, the hyperstitional anxiety of seeing gestures from marginal scenes influence wider culture from your bedroom while also simultaneously feeling very little agency over the future, and how some of her writing related to machine learning takes on new dimension in the wake of OpenAI’s release of the GPT3 API. Thanks again for listening and have a great week :) Links Read Oval - https://softskull.com/dd-product/oval/ "My Kid Could Do That" - https://nplusonemag.com/online-only/online-only/my-kid-could-do-that/ GPT-3 - https://github.com/openai/gpt-3Holly Herndon & Mat DryhurstUBI and the Precariat with Professor Guy StandingUBI and the Precariat with Professor Guy StandingIn this latest episode we talk with Professor Guy Standing, who has been at the forefront of Basic Income research for 30 years, running pilots all over the world.&nbsp; We discuss his original concept of “The Precariat”, a new class that might be familiar to many listeners, the moral case for a basic income and its fans in US politics and Silicon Valley, and his vision of a future of a new left built upon enlightenment principles.&nbsp; Links! Guy Standing: https://www.guystanding.com/ (https://www.guystanding.com/) Basic Income Earth Network: https://basicincome.org/ (https://basicincome.org/) The Precariat: https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/the-precariat-9781849664561/ (https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/the-precariat-9781849664561/) Plunder of the Commons: https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/308/308407/plunder-of-the-commons/9780141990620.html (https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/308/308407/plunder-of-the-commons/9780141990620.html) In this latest episode we talk with Professor Guy Standing, who has been at the forefront of Basic Income research for 30 years, running pilots all over the world. 

We discuss his original concept of “The Precariat”, a new class that might be familiar to many listeners, the moral case for a basic income and its fans in US politics and Silicon Valley, and his vision of a future of a new left built upon enlightenment principles. 

Links!

Guy Standing: https://www.guystanding.com/

Basic Income Earth Network: https://basicincome.org/

The Precariat: https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/the-precariat-9781849664561/

Plunder of the Commons: https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/308/308407/plunder-of-the-commons/9780141990620.html

]]>e7006e01-a7cf-47ed-962f-63ec6e910697Thu, 24 Dec 2020 00:00:00 +010001:26:48yesfull6In this latest episode we talk with Professor Guy Standing, who has been at the forefront of Basic Income research for 30 years, running pilots all over the world. We discuss his original concept of “The Precariat”, a new class that might be familiar to many listeners, the moral case for a basic income and its fans in US politics and Silicon Valley, and his vision of a future of a new left built upon enlightenment principles. Links! Guy Standing: https://www.guystanding.com/ Basic Income Earth Network: https://basicincome.org/ The Precariat: https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/the-precariat-9781849664561/ Plunder of the Commons: https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/308/308407/plunder-of-the-commons/9780141990620.htmlHolly Herndon & Mat DryhurstCyberpunk, Difference Engines and Mad Madge with Bruce SterlingCyberpunk, Difference Engines and Mad Madge with Bruce SterlingHello everyone If my voice is more reverberant than usual its because this is beaming from our new studio, which currently has no furniture, no electricity and no internet! We are hoping eventually to establish one or two of those things, and maybe even host some of these conversations live once we are all allowed to occupy space together again. In the near term, the good news is we have a new episode for you! Last night we recorded a long and fun conversation with the Hugo award winning author and futurist Bruce Sterling. As you will hear Bruce has a great deal of knowledge about a great deal of stuff, and as well as his early writing helping to establish the cyberpunk movement, he was also among a handful of people who set the countercultural tone in San Francisco at the dawn of WIRED and the dot com boom. He is also a curator and expert on digital art.&nbsp; We discuss his being the first WIRED cover story, new information he uncovered on the relationship between Charles Babbage and Ada Lovelace, the first science fiction writer; a woman referred to as “mad Madge”, Qanon as Christian fundamentalist Scifi, Amazons beginnings as a sci-fi bookstore, ideas from early dot com times that people didn’t pick up but maybe should have done more with, and to close we have a fiery debate about the merits and pitfalls of the name of this podcast and a conversation with GPT-3. Bruce is a treat to talk to and a fountain of wild knowledge, we hope its fun to listen to. Have a great week. Hello everyone

If my voice is more reverberant than usual its because this is beaming from our new studio, which currently has no furniture, no electricity and no internet! We are hoping eventually to establish one or two of those things, and maybe even host some of these conversations live once we are all allowed to occupy space together again.

In the near term, the good news is we have a new episode for you! Last night we recorded a long and fun conversation with the Hugo award winning author and futurist Bruce Sterling. As you will hear Bruce has a great deal of knowledge about a great deal of stuff, and as well as his early writing helping to establish the cyberpunk movement, he was also among a handful of people who set the countercultural tone in San Francisco at the dawn of WIRED and the dot com boom. He is also a curator and expert on digital art. 

We discuss his being the first WIRED cover story, new information he uncovered on the relationship between Charles Babbage and Ada Lovelace, the first science fiction writer; a woman referred to as “mad Madge”, Qanon as Christian fundamentalist Scifi, Amazons beginnings as a sci-fi bookstore, ideas from early dot com times that people didn’t pick up but maybe should have done more with, and to close we have a fiery debate about the merits and pitfalls of the name of this podcast and a conversation with GPT-3.

Bruce is a treat to talk to and a fountain of wild knowledge, we hope its fun to listen to. Have a great week.

]]>f1dd1223-9e45-470c-b96a-feba099b3159Thu, 24 Dec 2020 00:00:00 +010001:59:11yesfull17Hello everyone If my voice is more reverberant than usual its because this is beaming from our new studio, which currently has no furniture, no electricity and no internet! We are hoping eventually to establish one or two of those things, and maybe even host some of these conversations live once we are all allowed to occupy space together again. In the near term, the good news is we have a new episode for you! Last night we recorded a long and fun conversation with the Hugo award winning author and futurist Bruce Sterling. As you will hear Bruce has a great deal of knowledge about a great deal of stuff, and as well as his early writing helping to establish the cyberpunk movement, he was also among a handful of people who set the countercultural tone in San Francisco at the dawn of WIRED and the dot com boom. He is also a curator and expert on digital art. We discuss his being the first WIRED cover story, new information he uncovered on the relationship between Charles Babbage and Ada Lovelace, the first science fiction writer; a woman referred to as “mad Madge”, Qanon as Christian fundamentalist Scifi, Amazons beginnings as a sci-fi bookstore, ideas from early dot com times that people didn’t pick up but maybe should have done more with, and to close we have a fiery debate about the merits and pitfalls of the name of this podcast and a conversation with GPT-3. Bruce is a treat to talk to and a fountain of wild knowledge, we hope its fun to listen to. Have a great week.Holly Herndon & Mat DryhurstRadical Markets, pluralistic tech and transitioning to Socialism with Glen Weyl (RadicalxChange)Radical Markets, pluralistic tech and transitioning to Socialism with Glen Weyl (RadicalxChange)In this episode we speak to Glen Weyl, author, economist and Principal Research at Microsoft Research. His ideas inspired the formation of the Radical X Change Foundation, who are holding a conference this weekend from June 19-21 I would recommend you check out. If you are interested in following the conference, in which we are speaking alongside Audrey Tang, Digital Minister or Taiwan, Vitalik Buterin of Ethereum and others, head over to http://radicalxchange.org/ (RadicalxChange.org) for more information. The interactive tickets are sold out, however I believe that the whole thing will be streamed live. In this very candid discussion with Glen we cover his recent work on COVID-19, his recently published essay “AI is an ideology, not a technology” co-authored with Jaron Lanier, his belief in the urgent need for pluralistic technologies and transitioning from corporations to stakeholder democracies, as well as his personal political transition from California libertarianism to socialism. It is a fun and generous conversation, I hope you enjoy it! Links: RadicalxChange conference https://www.radicalxchange.org/2020-conference/ (https://www.radicalxchange.org/2020-conference/) AI is an Ideology not a Technology https://www.wired.com/story/opinion-ai-is-an-ideology-not-a-technology/ (https://www.wired.com/story/opinion-ai-is-an-ideology-not-a-technology/) Data Dignity: https://issuu.com/radicalxchange/docs/data_legislation_paper_--_20191031 (https://issuu.com/radicalxchange/docs/data_legislation_paper_--_20191031) In this episode we speak to Glen Weyl, author, economist and Principal Research at Microsoft Research. His ideas inspired the formation of the Radical X Change Foundation, who are holding a conference this weekend from June 19-21 I would recommend you check out.

If you are interested in following the conference, in which we are speaking alongside Audrey Tang, Digital Minister or Taiwan, Vitalik Buterin of Ethereum and others, head over to RadicalxChange.org for more information. The interactive tickets are sold out, however I believe that the whole thing will be streamed live.

In this very candid discussion with Glen we cover his recent work on COVID-19, his recently published essay “AI is an ideology, not a technology” co-authored with Jaron Lanier, his belief in the urgent need for pluralistic technologies and transitioning from corporations to stakeholder democracies, as well as his personal political transition from California libertarianism to socialism. It is a fun and generous conversation, I hope you enjoy it!

Links:

RadicalxChange conference

https://www.radicalxchange.org/2020-conference/

AI is an Ideology not a Technology

https://www.wired.com/story/opinion-ai-is-an-ideology-not-a-technology/

Data Dignity:

https://issuu.com/radicalxchange/docs/data_legislation_paper_--_20191031

]]>f2df038c-4457-4f32-b85f-efd9676dc1bdThu, 24 Dec 2020 00:00:00 +010001:26:08yesfull7In this episode we speak to Glen Weyl, author, economist and Principal Research at Microsoft Research. His ideas inspired the formation of the Radical X Change Foundation, who are holding a conference this weekend from June 19-21 I would recommend you check out. If you are interested in following the conference, in which we are speaking alongside Audrey Tang, Digital Minister or Taiwan, Vitalik Buterin of Ethereum and others, head over to RadicalxChange.org for more information. The interactive tickets are sold out, however I believe that the whole thing will be streamed live. In this very candid discussion with Glen we cover his recent work on COVID-19, his recently published essay “AI is an ideology, not a technology” co-authored with Jaron Lanier, his belief in the urgent need for pluralistic technologies and transitioning from corporations to stakeholder democracies, as well as his personal political transition from California libertarianism to socialism. It is a fun and generous conversation, I hope you enjoy it! Links: RadicalxChange conference https://www.radicalxchange.org/2020-conference/ AI is an Ideology not a Technology https://www.wired.com/story/opinion-ai-is-an-ideology-not-a-technology/ Data Dignity: https://issuu.com/radicalxchange/docs/data_legislation_paper_--_20191031Holly Herndon & Mat DryhurstThis is All Happening Right Now: Solarpunk, cultural fracking and the real Jurassic Park with Jay SpringettThis is All Happening Right Now: Solarpunk, cultural fracking and the real Jurassic Park with Jay SpringettBack with a conversation with a special person and close friend of the podcast Jay Springett Jay is a writer, theorist and podcaster who falls into a special category of people where we can say with some confidence that whatever they are thinking about will be commonplace in a few years. We discuss a passion of his, Solarpunk, cultural fracking, universe construction, permaculture, Russia’s real jurassic park, K pop and the factory model, reality modelling and aerospace, conspiracy theories and much more. Can’t recommend enough that you check out Jay’s various cultural contributions, and hope you are all having a wonderful week. &nbsp; LINKS http://thejaymo.net/ (thejaymo.net) http://permanentlymoved.online/ (Permanentlymoved.online) http://comeinternetwith.me/ (Comeinternetwith.me) https://www.thejaymo.net/solarpunk-rusted-chrome/ (https://www.thejaymo.net/solarpunk-rusted-chrome/) http://opentranscripts.org/transcript/solarpunk-grand-dress-rehearsal/ (http://opentranscripts.org/transcript/solarpunk-grand-dress-rehearsal/) https://www.thejaymo.net/seeing-through-the-debris/ (https://www.thejaymo.net/seeing-through-the-debris/) https://stacktivism.com/ (https://stacktivism.com/)&nbsp; Back with a conversation with a special person and close friend of the podcast Jay Springett

Jay is a writer, theorist and podcaster who falls into a special category of people where we can say with some confidence that whatever they are thinking about will be commonplace in a few years. We discuss a passion of his, Solarpunk, cultural fracking, universe construction, permaculture, Russia’s real jurassic park, K pop and the factory model, reality modelling and aerospace, conspiracy theories and much more.

Can’t recommend enough that you check out Jay’s various cultural contributions, and hope you are all having a wonderful week.  

LINKS

thejaymo.net

Permanentlymoved.online

Comeinternetwith.me

https://www.thejaymo.net/solarpunk-rusted-chrome/

http://opentranscripts.org/transcript/solarpunk-grand-dress-rehearsal/

https://www.thejaymo.net/seeing-through-the-debris/

https://stacktivism.com/ 


]]>fd874390-50f9-499d-b3d4-95df1d52a370Thu, 24 Dec 2020 00:00:00 +010001:45:29yesfull21Back with a conversation with a special person and close friend of the podcast Jay Springett Jay is a writer, theorist and podcaster who falls into a special category of people where we can say with some confidence that whatever they are thinking about will be commonplace in a few years. We discuss a passion of his, Solarpunk, cultural fracking, universe construction, permaculture, Russia’s real jurassic park, K pop and the factory model, reality modelling and aerospace, conspiracy theories and much more. Can’t recommend enough that you check out Jay’s various cultural contributions, and hope you are all having a wonderful week. LINKS thejaymo.net Permanentlymoved.online Comeinternetwith.me https://www.thejaymo.net/solarpunk-rusted-chrome/ http://opentranscripts.org/transcript/solarpunk-grand-dress-rehearsal/ https://www.thejaymo.net/seeing-through-the-debris/ https://stacktivism.com/Holly Herndon & Mat Dryhurst