<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><?xml-stylesheet href="https://feeds.captivate.fm/style.xsl" type="text/xsl"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:googleplay="http://www.google.com/schemas/play-podcasts/1.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" xmlns:podcast="https://podcastindex.org/namespace/1.0"><channel><atom:link href="https://feeds.captivate.fm/no-assigned-seats-podcast/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><title><![CDATA[No Assigned Seats]]></title><podcast:guid>cd9046c5-2162-5773-adfd-6564f3ea6f61</podcast:guid><lastBuildDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2026 19:00:17 +0000</lastBuildDate><generator>Captivate.fm</generator><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><copyright><![CDATA[Copyright 2026 Thomas Stirling]]></copyright><managingEditor>Thomas Stirling</managingEditor><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Every career has a moment where the path stops being obvious. The seat wasn't assigned, it was earned, built, or occasionally taken. No Assigned Seats is a conversation series hosted by Thomas Stirling, brand strategist, agency founder, and the guy brands call when the wheels are spinning but nothing's moving. Each episode, Tom sits down with marketing and business leaders to go beyond the résumé and into the decisions that actually shaped them: the pivots, the reinventions, the bets that paid off, and the ones that didn't. This isn't a tactics show. It's a show about leadership in motion, what it looks like when clarity is hard to find, change is constant, and the next move is never guaranteed. If you're building something, leading something, or figuring out what comes next, pull up a chair.]]></itunes:summary><image><url>https://artwork.captivate.fm/8a4272f7-debf-4f82-abad-a48ca6bc858e/No-Assigned-Seats-Podcast-Cover.jpg</url><title>No Assigned Seats</title><link><![CDATA[https://no-assigned-seats-podcast.captivate.fm]]></link></image><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/8a4272f7-debf-4f82-abad-a48ca6bc858e/No-Assigned-Seats-Podcast-Cover.jpg"/><itunes:owner><itunes:name>Thomas Stirling</itunes:name></itunes:owner><itunes:author>Thomas Stirling</itunes:author><description>Every career has a moment where the path stops being obvious. The seat wasn&apos;t assigned, it was earned, built, or occasionally taken. No Assigned Seats is a conversation series hosted by Thomas Stirling, brand strategist, agency founder, and the guy brands call when the wheels are spinning but nothing&apos;s moving. Each episode, Tom sits down with marketing and business leaders to go beyond the résumé and into the decisions that actually shaped them: the pivots, the reinventions, the bets that paid off, and the ones that didn&apos;t. This isn&apos;t a tactics show. It&apos;s a show about leadership in motion, what it looks like when clarity is hard to find, change is constant, and the next move is never guaranteed. If you&apos;re building something, leading something, or figuring out what comes next, pull up a chair.</description><link>https://no-assigned-seats-podcast.captivate.fm</link><atom:link href="https://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com" rel="hub"/><itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Leadership isn't a title. It's a decision. No Assigned Seats is a conversation series for leaders who've navigated change, made hard calls, and built something worth talking about. Hosted by Thomas Stirling, founder of Stirling Brandworks.]]></itunes:subtitle><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:type>episodic</itunes:type><itunes:category text="Business"></itunes:category><itunes:category text="Business"><itunes:category text="Marketing"/></itunes:category><podcast:locked>no</podcast:locked><podcast:medium>podcast</podcast:medium><item><title>The Next Chapter: Why Brands (and People) Need to Rethink Aging, Purpose, and Possibility with Linda Watts</title><itunes:title>The Next Chapter: Why Brands (and People) Need to Rethink Aging, Purpose, and Possibility with Linda Watts</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>What if one of the biggest opportunities in marketing isn't the next generation—but the one we've been overlooking? In this episode, host Thomas Stirling sits down with Linda Watts, Director of Brand &amp; Marketing at the National Senior Games Association, to explore why older adults remain one of the most misunderstood audiences in marketing. Drawing on more than two decades of experience across healthcare, senior living, and mission-driven organizations, Linda shares why brands need to move beyond messaging rooted in fear and decline and instead inspire purpose, possibility, and what's still ahead.</p><p>Together, Tom and Linda discuss the power of aspirational storytelling, how purpose continues to motivate people at every stage of life, and why organizations across healthcare, financial services, wellness, and beyond have an opportunity to rethink how they engage adults over 50. Along the way, they explore the remarkable mission of the National Senior Games Association and what its athletes teach us about aging, achievement, and human potential.</p><p></p><p><strong>Connect with Linda Watts:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/linda-watts-marketing/</li><li>Website: https://nsga.com/</li></ul><br/><p>If this conversation moved you, share it with someone who needs to pull up a chair. Subscribe so you never miss a seat at the table.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if one of the biggest opportunities in marketing isn't the next generation—but the one we've been overlooking? In this episode, host Thomas Stirling sits down with Linda Watts, Director of Brand &amp; Marketing at the National Senior Games Association, to explore why older adults remain one of the most misunderstood audiences in marketing. Drawing on more than two decades of experience across healthcare, senior living, and mission-driven organizations, Linda shares why brands need to move beyond messaging rooted in fear and decline and instead inspire purpose, possibility, and what's still ahead.</p><p>Together, Tom and Linda discuss the power of aspirational storytelling, how purpose continues to motivate people at every stage of life, and why organizations across healthcare, financial services, wellness, and beyond have an opportunity to rethink how they engage adults over 50. Along the way, they explore the remarkable mission of the National Senior Games Association and what its athletes teach us about aging, achievement, and human potential.</p><p></p><p><strong>Connect with Linda Watts:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/linda-watts-marketing/</li><li>Website: https://nsga.com/</li></ul><br/><p>If this conversation moved you, share it with someone who needs to pull up a chair. Subscribe so you never miss a seat at the table.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://no-assigned-seats-podcast.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">da0b0bd9-b5af-477a-9bd6-e57d8b98ad7d</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/8a4272f7-debf-4f82-abad-a48ca6bc858e/No-Assigned-Seats-Podcast-Cover.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2026 15:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/da0b0bd9-b5af-477a-9bd6-e57d8b98ad7d.mp3" length="42573635" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>29:28</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>12</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>The Urgency of Care: Healthcare Marketing Lessons from Politics with Vinny Mangiacopra</title><itunes:title>The Urgency of Care: Healthcare Marketing Lessons from Politics with Vinny Mangiacopra</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>What can healthcare marketers learn from the cutthroat world of political campaigns? In this episode, host Thomas Stirling sits down with Vinny Mangiacopra, Director of Marketing at the Center for Vein Restoration (CVR), the nation’s largest physician-led vein care practice. Managing a multimillion-dollar patient acquisition budget across 120+ locations, Vinny shares how his unconventional background in political science and grassroots campaigning shaped his unique approach to brand growth, leadership, and patient care.</p><p>Vinny breaks down what he calls the "Campaign Mindset"—the philosophy of treating every single interaction as an opportunity to build trust and earn lifelong support. He discusses how to maintain message consistency across diverse audiences, leverage the power of medical education to drive action for elective procedures, and instill a natural sense of urgency in a crowded healthcare marketplace.</p><p></p><p><strong>Connect with Vinny Mangiacopra:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vinny-mangiacopra-19976657</li><li>Website: https://www.centerforvein.com/</li></ul><br/><p>If this conversation moved you, share it with someone who needs to pull up a chair. Subscribe so you never miss a seat at the table.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What can healthcare marketers learn from the cutthroat world of political campaigns? In this episode, host Thomas Stirling sits down with Vinny Mangiacopra, Director of Marketing at the Center for Vein Restoration (CVR), the nation’s largest physician-led vein care practice. Managing a multimillion-dollar patient acquisition budget across 120+ locations, Vinny shares how his unconventional background in political science and grassroots campaigning shaped his unique approach to brand growth, leadership, and patient care.</p><p>Vinny breaks down what he calls the "Campaign Mindset"—the philosophy of treating every single interaction as an opportunity to build trust and earn lifelong support. He discusses how to maintain message consistency across diverse audiences, leverage the power of medical education to drive action for elective procedures, and instill a natural sense of urgency in a crowded healthcare marketplace.</p><p></p><p><strong>Connect with Vinny Mangiacopra:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vinny-mangiacopra-19976657</li><li>Website: https://www.centerforvein.com/</li></ul><br/><p>If this conversation moved you, share it with someone who needs to pull up a chair. Subscribe so you never miss a seat at the table.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://no-assigned-seats-podcast.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">622a51cd-24c8-4d11-84e4-5350ea28e681</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/8a4272f7-debf-4f82-abad-a48ca6bc858e/No-Assigned-Seats-Podcast-Cover.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2026 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/622a51cd-24c8-4d11-84e4-5350ea28e681.mp3" length="42536592" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>29:32</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>11</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>Moving Beyond the Screen: Why B2B Enterprises are Doubling Down on Experiential Marketing with Marshall Thompson</title><itunes:title>Moving Beyond the Screen: Why B2B Enterprises are Doubling Down on Experiential Marketing with Marshall Thompson</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, host Thomas Stirling sits down with Marshall Thompson, Executive Director of Experiential Practice at Hyperquake, to discuss how Fortune 1000 brands are adapting to a crowded digital landscape. As buyers face digital content fatigue and growing skepticism over polished AI-generated assets, leading enterprises are shifting their investments toward high-impact, physical environments.</p><p>Thompson shares his non-traditional journey from a college dropout to leading experiential strategy. He highlights how forward-thinking business-to-business (B2B) companies are successfully leveraging built environments, such as innovation hubs, executive briefing centers, and immersive brand homes, to deepen relationships and accelerate the sales cycle.</p><p></p><p><strong>Connect with Marshall Thompson:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marshalljthompson</li><li>Website: https://www.hyperquake.com/</li></ul><br/><p>If this conversation moved you, share it with someone who needs to pull up a chair. Subscribe so you never miss a seat at the table.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, host Thomas Stirling sits down with Marshall Thompson, Executive Director of Experiential Practice at Hyperquake, to discuss how Fortune 1000 brands are adapting to a crowded digital landscape. As buyers face digital content fatigue and growing skepticism over polished AI-generated assets, leading enterprises are shifting their investments toward high-impact, physical environments.</p><p>Thompson shares his non-traditional journey from a college dropout to leading experiential strategy. He highlights how forward-thinking business-to-business (B2B) companies are successfully leveraging built environments, such as innovation hubs, executive briefing centers, and immersive brand homes, to deepen relationships and accelerate the sales cycle.</p><p></p><p><strong>Connect with Marshall Thompson:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marshalljthompson</li><li>Website: https://www.hyperquake.com/</li></ul><br/><p>If this conversation moved you, share it with someone who needs to pull up a chair. Subscribe so you never miss a seat at the table.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://no-assigned-seats-podcast.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">c9831a45-7a71-4dff-8247-3098f2c16f80</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/8a4272f7-debf-4f82-abad-a48ca6bc858e/No-Assigned-Seats-Podcast-Cover.jpg"/><pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2026 12:15:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/c9831a45-7a71-4dff-8247-3098f2c16f80.mp3" length="42673891" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>29:38</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>10</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>The Weight of Legacy: Staying Relevant As A Heritage Brand With Helena Verellen</title><itunes:title>The Weight of Legacy: Staying Relevant As A Heritage Brand With Helena Verellen</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Former Second City CMO Helena Verellen joins Thomas Stirling to share hard-won lessons from a career spent stewarding some of the world's most iconic brands, from Sony and WWE to Sesame Workshop and Second City. Helena draws on over two decades of global marketing experience to make one thing clear: when it comes to heritage brands, the core never changes. What changes is how you tell the story. Whether she was bringing Shakira to new international markets or driving ticket sales at a 65-year-old comedy institution, Helena's north star remained the same — stay true to who you are.</p><p>In this episode, Helena and Thomas dig into the real pressures CMOs face: short tenures, PE-backed boards demanding quarterly results, and the constant temptation to chase the next shiny object. Helena explains how she balanced brand awareness investments with performance marketing metrics, and why saying no to inauthenticity is one of the most important things a marketer can do.</p><p>They also explore the role of AI in creative organizations, where Helena shares an early mistake that taught her exactly where AI belongs, and where it doesn't.</p><p>The episode closes with Helena's optimistic vision for the future of marketing leadership and a sharp take on why "return on investment" might be the most overused phrase in the boardroom.</p><p></p><p><strong>Connect with Helena Verellen:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/helenaverellen</li><li>Website: https://www.marketingsociety.com/helena-verellen</li></ul><br/><p>If this conversation moved you, share it with someone who needs to pull up a chair. Subscribe so you never miss a seat at the table.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Former Second City CMO Helena Verellen joins Thomas Stirling to share hard-won lessons from a career spent stewarding some of the world's most iconic brands, from Sony and WWE to Sesame Workshop and Second City. Helena draws on over two decades of global marketing experience to make one thing clear: when it comes to heritage brands, the core never changes. What changes is how you tell the story. Whether she was bringing Shakira to new international markets or driving ticket sales at a 65-year-old comedy institution, Helena's north star remained the same — stay true to who you are.</p><p>In this episode, Helena and Thomas dig into the real pressures CMOs face: short tenures, PE-backed boards demanding quarterly results, and the constant temptation to chase the next shiny object. Helena explains how she balanced brand awareness investments with performance marketing metrics, and why saying no to inauthenticity is one of the most important things a marketer can do.</p><p>They also explore the role of AI in creative organizations, where Helena shares an early mistake that taught her exactly where AI belongs, and where it doesn't.</p><p>The episode closes with Helena's optimistic vision for the future of marketing leadership and a sharp take on why "return on investment" might be the most overused phrase in the boardroom.</p><p></p><p><strong>Connect with Helena Verellen:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/helenaverellen</li><li>Website: https://www.marketingsociety.com/helena-verellen</li></ul><br/><p>If this conversation moved you, share it with someone who needs to pull up a chair. Subscribe so you never miss a seat at the table.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://no-assigned-seats-podcast.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">264b1441-44c1-41fd-b35c-5b6e5018c889</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/8a4272f7-debf-4f82-abad-a48ca6bc858e/No-Assigned-Seats-Podcast-Cover.jpg"/><pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2026 12:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/264b1441-44c1-41fd-b35c-5b6e5018c889.mp3" length="63797339" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>44:18</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>9</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>Turning Marketing Into a Revenue Engine in Healthcare (Not a Reporting Function) With Ian Dowe</title><itunes:title>Turning Marketing Into a Revenue Engine in Healthcare (Not a Reporting Function) With Ian Dowe</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, host Thomas Stirling sits down with Ian Dowe, SVP of Marketing at HealthAxis Group, a healthcare SaaS company specializing in insurance claim processing. Dowe shares his unconventional career journey, evolving from a front-line insurance sales representative into a veteran healthcare marketing leader across hospital, payer, and technology sectors.</p><p>Stirling and Dowe dive deep into why marketing is too often treated as an administrative "service desk" rather than a vital growth driver. Dowe argues that a marketer’s primary reason for existence is contribution to revenue, advising teams to look past surface-level vanity metrics, like clicks and impressions—to hyper-focus on opportunity creation and pipeline results.</p><p></p><p><strong>Connect with Ian Dowe:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ian-dowe/</li><li>Website: https://healthaxis.com/</li></ul><br/><p>If this conversation moved you, share it with someone who needs to pull up a chair. Subscribe so you never miss a seat at the table.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, host Thomas Stirling sits down with Ian Dowe, SVP of Marketing at HealthAxis Group, a healthcare SaaS company specializing in insurance claim processing. Dowe shares his unconventional career journey, evolving from a front-line insurance sales representative into a veteran healthcare marketing leader across hospital, payer, and technology sectors.</p><p>Stirling and Dowe dive deep into why marketing is too often treated as an administrative "service desk" rather than a vital growth driver. Dowe argues that a marketer’s primary reason for existence is contribution to revenue, advising teams to look past surface-level vanity metrics, like clicks and impressions—to hyper-focus on opportunity creation and pipeline results.</p><p></p><p><strong>Connect with Ian Dowe:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ian-dowe/</li><li>Website: https://healthaxis.com/</li></ul><br/><p>If this conversation moved you, share it with someone who needs to pull up a chair. Subscribe so you never miss a seat at the table.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://no-assigned-seats-podcast.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">f9b8390f-c8df-4753-bc83-a5fecddc0f09</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/8a4272f7-debf-4f82-abad-a48ca6bc858e/No-Assigned-Seats-Podcast-Cover.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2026 09:15:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/f9b8390f-c8df-4753-bc83-a5fecddc0f09.mp3" length="64895112" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>45:02</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>8</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>Storytelling in a Sea of Sameness: Why SaaS Messaging Sounds the Same (and How to Fix It) with Chris Musico</title><itunes:title>Storytelling in a Sea of Sameness: Why SaaS Messaging Sounds the Same (and How to Fix It) with Chris Musico</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, host Thomas Stirling sits down with Chris Musico, Vice President of Brand Experience at AvePoint, to tackle one of the biggest challenges in B2B marketing: escaping the dreaded "sea of sameness." In a fast-moving SaaS landscape dominated by identical competitor dashboards, many companies default to risk-averse copy that reads like category boilerplate.</p><p>Chris shares how his unconventional journey from broadcast journalism to tech marketing shaped his philosophy that clarity is kindness. He discusses how AvePoint revolutionized its global content strategy by auditing and mapping assets to the B2B Buyer Journey Framework, shifting focus away from competitor features and directly toward unique customer outcomes.</p><p></p><p><strong>Connect with Chris Musico:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christophermusico/</li><li>Website: https://www.avepoint.com/</li></ul><br/><p>If this conversation moved you, share it with someone who needs to pull up a chair. Subscribe so you never miss a seat at the table.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, host Thomas Stirling sits down with Chris Musico, Vice President of Brand Experience at AvePoint, to tackle one of the biggest challenges in B2B marketing: escaping the dreaded "sea of sameness." In a fast-moving SaaS landscape dominated by identical competitor dashboards, many companies default to risk-averse copy that reads like category boilerplate.</p><p>Chris shares how his unconventional journey from broadcast journalism to tech marketing shaped his philosophy that clarity is kindness. He discusses how AvePoint revolutionized its global content strategy by auditing and mapping assets to the B2B Buyer Journey Framework, shifting focus away from competitor features and directly toward unique customer outcomes.</p><p></p><p><strong>Connect with Chris Musico:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christophermusico/</li><li>Website: https://www.avepoint.com/</li></ul><br/><p>If this conversation moved you, share it with someone who needs to pull up a chair. Subscribe so you never miss a seat at the table.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://no-assigned-seats-podcast.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">c760952e-bc14-43cd-8d54-5895507aa40a</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/8a4272f7-debf-4f82-abad-a48ca6bc858e/No-Assigned-Seats-Podcast-Cover.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2026 09:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/c760952e-bc14-43cd-8d54-5895507aa40a.mp3" length="60610996" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>42:04</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>7</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>When Community Is the Channel: How Knowing Your Audience Beats Bigger Budgets With Chanelle Leslie</title><itunes:title>When Community Is the Channel: How Knowing Your Audience Beats Bigger Budgets With Chanelle Leslie</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, host Thomas Stirling sits down with Chanelle Leslie, a senior marketing leader who has scaled brands across CPG, beauty, fitness, and subscription models, including Overtone, Ceremonia, and somatic fitness app, The Class.<strong> </strong>Chanelle shares her core belief that sustainable growth does not require louder marketing; instead, it stems from knowing your audience better than anyone else.</p><p>The conversation explores how building a true community differs from simply managing an audience. Chanelle breaks down how community-led growth naturally drives high-converting word-of-mouth traffic, reduces acquisition costs, and even unlocks massive retail partnerships like Sephora. She emphasizes that authentic community is a long-term play built on values that resonate deeply with specific cultural or emotional niches.</p><p>Chanelle also shares a powerful case study from her work at The Class. By shifting away from celebrity-focused hype ads to copy that addressed real user needs mined from exit surveys, her team cut acquisition costs in half over nine months, proving that community feedback is the ultimate foundation for creative strategy.</p><p></p><p><strong>Connect with Chanelle Leslie:</strong></p><ul><li>Instagram: <u><a href="https://www.instagram.com/thisischanelle/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/thisischanelle/</a></u></li><li>Website: <u><a href="http://taryntoomey.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">http://taryntoomey.com/</a></u> or <u><a href="https://www.chanelleleslie.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.chanelleleslie.com/</a></u></li></ul><br/><p>If this conversation moved you, share it with someone who needs to pull up a chair. Subscribe so you never miss a seat at the table.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, host Thomas Stirling sits down with Chanelle Leslie, a senior marketing leader who has scaled brands across CPG, beauty, fitness, and subscription models, including Overtone, Ceremonia, and somatic fitness app, The Class.<strong> </strong>Chanelle shares her core belief that sustainable growth does not require louder marketing; instead, it stems from knowing your audience better than anyone else.</p><p>The conversation explores how building a true community differs from simply managing an audience. Chanelle breaks down how community-led growth naturally drives high-converting word-of-mouth traffic, reduces acquisition costs, and even unlocks massive retail partnerships like Sephora. She emphasizes that authentic community is a long-term play built on values that resonate deeply with specific cultural or emotional niches.</p><p>Chanelle also shares a powerful case study from her work at The Class. By shifting away from celebrity-focused hype ads to copy that addressed real user needs mined from exit surveys, her team cut acquisition costs in half over nine months, proving that community feedback is the ultimate foundation for creative strategy.</p><p></p><p><strong>Connect with Chanelle Leslie:</strong></p><ul><li>Instagram: <u><a href="https://www.instagram.com/thisischanelle/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/thisischanelle/</a></u></li><li>Website: <u><a href="http://taryntoomey.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">http://taryntoomey.com/</a></u> or <u><a href="https://www.chanelleleslie.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.chanelleleslie.com/</a></u></li></ul><br/><p>If this conversation moved you, share it with someone who needs to pull up a chair. Subscribe so you never miss a seat at the table.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://no-assigned-seats-podcast.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">51d090d4-734e-4cf4-8673-6cea1fec9a5e</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/8a4272f7-debf-4f82-abad-a48ca6bc858e/No-Assigned-Seats-Podcast-Cover.jpg"/><pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2026 09:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/51d090d4-734e-4cf4-8673-6cea1fec9a5e.mp3" length="40007708" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>27:45</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>6</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>The CMO as President: Why Marketing Deserves a Seat at the Strategy Table With Sarah Greenough</title><itunes:title>The CMO as President: Why Marketing Deserves a Seat at the Strategy Table With Sarah Greenough</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Most marketing leaders spend their careers fighting for a seat at the table. Sarah Greenough built the table.<strong> </strong>With more than 30 years at Princeton Properties, starting in marketing and ultimately ascending to President and CMO, Sarah's career is a case study in what happens when marketing stops being treated as a support function and starts being recognized as a core driver of business value. Her path wasn't a straight line. It was built on proving, year after year, that brand, leasing, revenue, and operations aren't separate disciplines; they're the same conversation.</p><p>In this episode, Tom and Sarah unpack what it really takes for marketing to earn a permanent seat at the strategy table, why so many CMOs are still fighting for credibility they should already have, and what the marketing leaders who make it to the top understand that others don't.</p><p>This is a conversation about the long game, and what three decades of showing up, adapting, and leading through change actually looks like.</p><p></p><p><strong>Connect with Sarah Greenough:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahgreenough/</li><li>Website: https://www.princetonproperties.com/</li></ul><br/><p>If this conversation moved you, share it with someone who needs to pull up a chair. Subscribe so you never miss a seat at the table.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most marketing leaders spend their careers fighting for a seat at the table. Sarah Greenough built the table.<strong> </strong>With more than 30 years at Princeton Properties, starting in marketing and ultimately ascending to President and CMO, Sarah's career is a case study in what happens when marketing stops being treated as a support function and starts being recognized as a core driver of business value. Her path wasn't a straight line. It was built on proving, year after year, that brand, leasing, revenue, and operations aren't separate disciplines; they're the same conversation.</p><p>In this episode, Tom and Sarah unpack what it really takes for marketing to earn a permanent seat at the strategy table, why so many CMOs are still fighting for credibility they should already have, and what the marketing leaders who make it to the top understand that others don't.</p><p>This is a conversation about the long game, and what three decades of showing up, adapting, and leading through change actually looks like.</p><p></p><p><strong>Connect with Sarah Greenough:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahgreenough/</li><li>Website: https://www.princetonproperties.com/</li></ul><br/><p>If this conversation moved you, share it with someone who needs to pull up a chair. Subscribe so you never miss a seat at the table.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://no-assigned-seats-podcast.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">e33fa86c-7091-40de-bae1-565e6a04eb68</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/8a4272f7-debf-4f82-abad-a48ca6bc858e/No-Assigned-Seats-Podcast-Cover.jpg"/><pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2026 09:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/e33fa86c-7091-40de-bae1-565e6a04eb68.mp3" length="56062169" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>38:56</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>5</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>Brain Meets Brand: Applying Neuroscience to the Funnel With Evan Day</title><itunes:title>Brain Meets Brand: Applying Neuroscience to the Funnel With Evan Day</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, host Thomas Stirling sits down with Evan Day, VP of Digital Marketing at BriteCap Financial and a PhD candidate in psychology and neuroscience. Evan operates at a rare intersection, combining a decade of data-driven marketing experience with scientific insights into how the human brain actually processes information and makes decisions.</p><p>The conversation challenges traditional marketing dogma, revealing that most consumer choices are driven subconsciously by the primitive "System 1" brain, powered heavily by emotion. Evan explains common cognitive biases, such as the frequent misuse of loss aversion, and emphasizes why visual content is processed exponentially faster than text.</p><p>They also dive into the future of marketing research, discussing how AI-driven eye-tracking tools like FengGui are democratizing neuroscience, while traditional methodologies like focus groups and surveys are becoming obsolete. </p><p></p><p><strong>Connect with Evan Day:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/evanday17/</li><li>Website: https://www.britecap.com/</li></ul><br/><p>If this conversation moved you, share it with someone who needs to pull up a chair. Subscribe so you never miss a seat at the table.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, host Thomas Stirling sits down with Evan Day, VP of Digital Marketing at BriteCap Financial and a PhD candidate in psychology and neuroscience. Evan operates at a rare intersection, combining a decade of data-driven marketing experience with scientific insights into how the human brain actually processes information and makes decisions.</p><p>The conversation challenges traditional marketing dogma, revealing that most consumer choices are driven subconsciously by the primitive "System 1" brain, powered heavily by emotion. Evan explains common cognitive biases, such as the frequent misuse of loss aversion, and emphasizes why visual content is processed exponentially faster than text.</p><p>They also dive into the future of marketing research, discussing how AI-driven eye-tracking tools like FengGui are democratizing neuroscience, while traditional methodologies like focus groups and surveys are becoming obsolete. </p><p></p><p><strong>Connect with Evan Day:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/evanday17/</li><li>Website: https://www.britecap.com/</li></ul><br/><p>If this conversation moved you, share it with someone who needs to pull up a chair. Subscribe so you never miss a seat at the table.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://no-assigned-seats-podcast.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">4d05ba6e-0655-4eda-b846-852fca46fe1e</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/8a4272f7-debf-4f82-abad-a48ca6bc858e/No-Assigned-Seats-Podcast-Cover.jpg"/><pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2026 09:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/4d05ba6e-0655-4eda-b846-852fca46fe1e.mp3" length="53116401" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>36:51</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>4</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>Cold Outreach Isn’t Dead, But the Old Playbook Is: How AI Is Forcing Sales and Marketing to Relearn Relevance With John Terrone</title><itunes:title>Cold Outreach Isn’t Dead, But the Old Playbook Is: How AI Is Forcing Sales and Marketing to Relearn Relevance With John Terrone</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Cold outreach didn't fail because buyers stopped responding. It failed because relevance collapsed.</p><p>The spray-and-pray era is over, not because AI killed it, but because buyers finally have enough noise that they can afford to ignore everything that doesn't earn their attention. And in environments like healthcare technology, where buying cycles are long, committees are large, and the inbox is a graveyard for templated sequences, the stakes for getting it wrong are especially high.</p><p>John Terrone brings an operator's lens to this problem. In this episode, he and Tom explore what AI actually enables in outbound, not replacement of human judgment, but the elimination of the manual, repetitive work that distracts sales and marketing teams from what matters: context, timing, and trust. They dig into why traditional sequences are breaking down, how AI can support relevance at scale without becoming another spam machine, and what happens when sales and marketing finally share the same intelligence layer.</p><p>This isn't a conversation about spamming faster. It's about rebuilding outbound around empathy, problem-awareness, and systems designed to let humans do the thinking, while AI handles the grunt work. </p><p></p><p><strong>Connect with John Terrone:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnterrone/</li><li>Website: https://www.promptlycheckin.com/</li></ul><br/><p>If this conversation moved you, share it with someone who needs to pull up a chair. Subscribe so you never miss a seat at the table.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cold outreach didn't fail because buyers stopped responding. It failed because relevance collapsed.</p><p>The spray-and-pray era is over, not because AI killed it, but because buyers finally have enough noise that they can afford to ignore everything that doesn't earn their attention. And in environments like healthcare technology, where buying cycles are long, committees are large, and the inbox is a graveyard for templated sequences, the stakes for getting it wrong are especially high.</p><p>John Terrone brings an operator's lens to this problem. In this episode, he and Tom explore what AI actually enables in outbound, not replacement of human judgment, but the elimination of the manual, repetitive work that distracts sales and marketing teams from what matters: context, timing, and trust. They dig into why traditional sequences are breaking down, how AI can support relevance at scale without becoming another spam machine, and what happens when sales and marketing finally share the same intelligence layer.</p><p>This isn't a conversation about spamming faster. It's about rebuilding outbound around empathy, problem-awareness, and systems designed to let humans do the thinking, while AI handles the grunt work. </p><p></p><p><strong>Connect with John Terrone:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnterrone/</li><li>Website: https://www.promptlycheckin.com/</li></ul><br/><p>If this conversation moved you, share it with someone who needs to pull up a chair. 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Consistency becomes uniformity. Scale becomes noise.</p><p>Johanna Wahlroos has navigated this at the highest levels, leading global strategy and planning at DoubleVerify, and before that, building and scaling brand programs at Google. Her perspective on international brand leadership is practical and hard-won: audiences evolve faster than personas, cultural literacy is not optional, and "knowing your customer" is never a finished job.</p><p>In this episode, Tom and Johanna unpack what it actually takes to keep a brand coherent across cultures, time zones, languages, and markets that refuse to hold still. How do you protect the core without suffocating local relevance? When does global coherence become a liability? And what does the modern CMO need to lead across a world that is simultaneously more connected and more distinct than ever?</p><p>This is a conversation about brand stewardship at scale, and what humility, clarity, and cultural fluency look like in practice. </p><p></p><p><strong>Connect with Johanna Wahlroos:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johanna-wahlroos-99071820/</li><li>Website: https://doubleverify.com/</li></ul><br/><p>If this conversation moved you, share it with someone who needs to pull up a chair. Subscribe so you never miss a seat at the table.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There's a trap most global brands fall into: standardize the message so aggressively that what made the brand powerful in the first place gets flattened out. Consistency becomes uniformity. Scale becomes noise.</p><p>Johanna Wahlroos has navigated this at the highest levels, leading global strategy and planning at DoubleVerify, and before that, building and scaling brand programs at Google. Her perspective on international brand leadership is practical and hard-won: audiences evolve faster than personas, cultural literacy is not optional, and "knowing your customer" is never a finished job.</p><p>In this episode, Tom and Johanna unpack what it actually takes to keep a brand coherent across cultures, time zones, languages, and markets that refuse to hold still. How do you protect the core without suffocating local relevance? When does global coherence become a liability? And what does the modern CMO need to lead across a world that is simultaneously more connected and more distinct than ever?</p><p>This is a conversation about brand stewardship at scale, and what humility, clarity, and cultural fluency look like in practice. </p><p></p><p><strong>Connect with Johanna Wahlroos:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johanna-wahlroos-99071820/</li><li>Website: https://doubleverify.com/</li></ul><br/><p>If this conversation moved you, share it with someone who needs to pull up a chair. 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Budgets are real. Scrutiny is higher. And the pressure on CMOs to extract more value from every piece of content, across more channels, faster, isn't letting up.</p><p>Finola Austin has spent her career at the intersection of creativity and performance, helping brands move beyond the one-off creator post and build something more durable: a content system that feeds paid media, retail, CTV, and owned channels without sacrificing authenticity or losing control of the brand.</p><p>In this episode, Tom and Finola get into what it actually looks like to operationalize influence, how smart brands are treating creator content less like a campaign and more like an asset class, why the brands winning with UGC are the ones with the clearest brief, and what CMOs need to build internally before scale becomes possible.</p><p>This is a conversation about what it takes to make creative work everywhere, and keep it working. </p><p></p><p><strong>Connect with Finola Austin: </strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/finola-austin-99ab6744/</li><li>Website: https://www.linqia.com/</li></ul><br/><p>If this conversation moved you, share it with someone who needs to pull up a chair. Subscribe so you never miss a seat at the table.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Influencer marketing has moved past the moment. Budgets are real. Scrutiny is higher. And the pressure on CMOs to extract more value from every piece of content, across more channels, faster, isn't letting up.</p><p>Finola Austin has spent her career at the intersection of creativity and performance, helping brands move beyond the one-off creator post and build something more durable: a content system that feeds paid media, retail, CTV, and owned channels without sacrificing authenticity or losing control of the brand.</p><p>In this episode, Tom and Finola get into what it actually looks like to operationalize influence, how smart brands are treating creator content less like a campaign and more like an asset class, why the brands winning with UGC are the ones with the clearest brief, and what CMOs need to build internally before scale becomes possible.</p><p>This is a conversation about what it takes to make creative work everywhere, and keep it working. </p><p></p><p><strong>Connect with Finola Austin: </strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/finola-austin-99ab6744/</li><li>Website: https://www.linqia.com/</li></ul><br/><p>If this conversation moved you, share it with someone who needs to pull up a chair. 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Fortune 500 companies are rewriting the org chart in real time. And if you believe the headlines, half of white-collar workers could be gone in the next 18 months. It's hard not to get caught up in the noise.</p><p>No Assigned Seats is a show about cutting through it all.</p><p>Hosted by Thomas Stirling, brand strategist, agency founder, and the guy brands call when the wheels are spinning, but nothing's moving, each episode is a conversation with the leaders who've navigated real change, made hard calls, and built something worth talking about.</p><p>Not tactics. Not hot takes. Real decisions, real stories, and the kind of clarity that only comes from having actually been in the room.</p><p>New episodes always droppin'! Subscribe now so you don't miss a seat at the table.</p><p><strong>Connect with Thomas Stirling:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tstirling/</li><li>Website: https://www.stirlingbrandworks.com/</li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CMO roles are getting eliminated. Fortune 500 companies are rewriting the org chart in real time. And if you believe the headlines, half of white-collar workers could be gone in the next 18 months. It's hard not to get caught up in the noise.</p><p>No Assigned Seats is a show about cutting through it all.</p><p>Hosted by Thomas Stirling, brand strategist, agency founder, and the guy brands call when the wheels are spinning, but nothing's moving, each episode is a conversation with the leaders who've navigated real change, made hard calls, and built something worth talking about.</p><p>Not tactics. Not hot takes. Real decisions, real stories, and the kind of clarity that only comes from having actually been in the room.</p><p>New episodes always droppin'! Subscribe now so you don't miss a seat at the table.</p><p><strong>Connect with Thomas Stirling:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tstirling/</li><li>Website: https://www.stirlingbrandworks.com/</li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://no-assigned-seats-podcast.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">74de2e66-23c6-446d-a5f9-ae1076a5625f</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/8a4272f7-debf-4f82-abad-a48ca6bc858e/No-Assigned-Seats-Podcast-Cover.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2026 09:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/74de2e66-23c6-446d-a5f9-ae1076a5625f.mp3" length="1782858" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>00:45</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>trailer</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item></channel></rss>