<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:googleplay="http://www.google.com/schemas/play-podcasts/1.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" xmlns:podcast="https://podcastindex.org/namespace/1.0"><channel><atom:link href="https://feeds.captivate.fm/pipeline/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><title><![CDATA[Pipeline]]></title><podcast:guid>8225e522-d0ec-51c9-905c-96f79061193a</podcast:guid><lastBuildDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2026 11:24:24 +0000</lastBuildDate><generator>Captivate.fm</generator><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><copyright><![CDATA[Copyright 2026 Podcast 2 Pipeline]]></copyright><managingEditor>Podcast 2 Pipeline</managingEditor><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Is there anything more stressful than an empty pipeline? If you're in sales or marketing, you already know the feeling—meetings on the calendar, real effort going in, and the pipeline still not moving.
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Host Joseph Lewin knows it too—the tightness in his chest at dinner, the brain that won't switch off on a weekend when the pipeline's dry.
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Some of your peers are filling pipeline and crushing quota right now. Not because they're smarter. Not because they're working harder. So what are they doing differently?
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That's Pipeline.
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Short conversations with the people actually doing it, not another B2B show full of backstory and theory with nothing to use on Monday.
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Each episode, Joseph talks to a peer about what's working for them right now, so you leave with something you can actually apply.
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If you're burnt out from the late nights with too little to show for them, this is your show. New episodes weekly on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and wherever you listen.]]></itunes:summary><image><url>https://artwork.captivate.fm/d3f53451-9b5f-42a5-bc19-51af1051e96a/Pipeline-Artwork.png</url><title>Pipeline</title><link><![CDATA[https://pipeline.captivate.fm]]></link></image><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/d3f53451-9b5f-42a5-bc19-51af1051e96a/Pipeline-Artwork.png"/><itunes:owner><itunes:name>Podcast 2 Pipeline</itunes:name></itunes:owner><itunes:author>Podcast 2 Pipeline</itunes:author><description>Is there anything more stressful than an empty pipeline? If you&apos;re in sales or marketing, you already know the feeling—meetings on the calendar, real effort going in, and the pipeline still not moving.
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Host Joseph Lewin knows it too—the tightness in his chest at dinner, the brain that won&apos;t switch off on a weekend when the pipeline&apos;s dry.
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Some of your peers are filling pipeline and crushing quota right now. Not because they&apos;re smarter. Not because they&apos;re working harder. So what are they doing differently?
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That&apos;s Pipeline.
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Short conversations with the people actually doing it, not another B2B show full of backstory and theory with nothing to use on Monday.
‎ 
Each episode, Joseph talks to a peer about what&apos;s working for them right now, so you leave with something you can actually apply.
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If you&apos;re burnt out from the late nights with too little to show for them, this is your show. New episodes weekly on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and wherever you listen.</description><link>https://pipeline.captivate.fm</link><atom:link href="https://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com" rel="hub"/><itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Empty calendar. Meetings booked but the pipeline's still not moving. Host Joseph Lewin talks to GTM peers who are actually filling pipeline right now—something you can use by Monday.]]></itunes:subtitle><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:type>episodic</itunes:type><itunes:category text="Business"></itunes:category><itunes:category text="Business"><itunes:category text="Marketing"/></itunes:category><itunes:category text="Business"><itunes:category text="Entrepreneurship"/></itunes:category><podcast:locked>no</podcast:locked><podcast:medium>podcast</podcast:medium><item><title>Don&apos;t Miss the One Sentence That Kills a Deal (with Alex Atkins from Sturdy) | Ep. 9</title><itunes:title>Don&apos;t Miss the One Sentence That Kills a Deal (with Alex Atkins from Sturdy) | Ep. 9</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><strong>💡 Summary</strong></p><p></p><p>A report called Churn Is Not a Customer Success Problem became the single highest performing asset Sturdy has ever produced.</p><p></p><p>On this episode of Pipeline, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joseph-lewin/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joseph Lewin</a> talks with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-n-atkins/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alex Atkins</a>, VP of Growth and Operations at <a href="https://www.sturdy.ai/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sturdy</a>, about how Sturdy brings people into the pipeline and how it tracks deals once they're there. Alex built a quarterly report from Sturdy's own first-party data, tens of millions of customer conversations. It showed that churn starts with product gaps, overpromising in the sales cycle and broken onboarding, and that CS was cleaning up after decisions other departments made months earlier. Every CS leader read it to defend themselves, and every CRO read it because it said out loud what they already suspected. For deals, Alex doesn't rely on what AEs think will close. Alex uses AI to listen to every account conversation and catch the sentence that says a deal is slipping.</p><p></p><p>Sponsored by <a href="https://podcast2pipeline.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Podcast 2 Pipeline</a></p><p>ㅤ</p><p><strong>✅ What you can use by Monday</strong></p><p></p><ul><li>Pick a top persona in your ICP and look in your own first-party data for a story nobody else can tell them.</li><li>Let the data tell the story, even when it shows you were wrong going in, as Alex was about CS causing most churn.</li><li>If a piece doesn't land, keep the data and change the angle: Alex's first version was called "AI in Business," and people weren't responding to it.</li><li>Stop asking AEs who they think will close, and read what accounts are saying across calls, email threads, support tickets and CSM notes.</li><li>Include email when you track deals, because Alex calls it the biggest store of unstructured conversational data.</li></ul><br/><p>ㅤ</p><p><strong>🕐 Chapters</strong></p><p>00:00 Intro: top of funnel content and tracking deals</p><p>01:25 The churn report built on first-party data</p><p>05:02 Why hard content wins and people follow people</p><p>07:08 Finding the pain and reframing it</p><p>11:44 What really causes churn: 17%, 25% and 27%</p><p>15:53 Most content misses: iterate on the angle</p><p>19:04 Using AI to read every account conversation</p><p>23:18 Why call-only tools miss the email sentence</p><p>ㅤ</p><p><strong>🎙️ About Pipeline</strong></p><p></p><p>Pipeline is short conversations with GTM peers who are actually filling pipeline right now, so you leave with something you can use by Monday. New episodes weekly on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and wherever you listen. Produced by Podcast 2 Pipeline.</p><p>ㅤ</p><p><strong>🏷️ Tags</strong></p><p></p><p>first-party data, content marketing, customer churn, customer success, pipeline generation, deal forecasting, revenue intelligence, AI for sales, LinkedIn content, Sturdy, Gong</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>💡 Summary</strong></p><p></p><p>A report called Churn Is Not a Customer Success Problem became the single highest performing asset Sturdy has ever produced.</p><p></p><p>On this episode of Pipeline, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joseph-lewin/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joseph Lewin</a> talks with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-n-atkins/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alex Atkins</a>, VP of Growth and Operations at <a href="https://www.sturdy.ai/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sturdy</a>, about how Sturdy brings people into the pipeline and how it tracks deals once they're there. Alex built a quarterly report from Sturdy's own first-party data, tens of millions of customer conversations. It showed that churn starts with product gaps, overpromising in the sales cycle and broken onboarding, and that CS was cleaning up after decisions other departments made months earlier. Every CS leader read it to defend themselves, and every CRO read it because it said out loud what they already suspected. For deals, Alex doesn't rely on what AEs think will close. Alex uses AI to listen to every account conversation and catch the sentence that says a deal is slipping.</p><p></p><p>Sponsored by <a href="https://podcast2pipeline.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Podcast 2 Pipeline</a></p><p>ㅤ</p><p><strong>✅ What you can use by Monday</strong></p><p></p><ul><li>Pick a top persona in your ICP and look in your own first-party data for a story nobody else can tell them.</li><li>Let the data tell the story, even when it shows you were wrong going in, as Alex was about CS causing most churn.</li><li>If a piece doesn't land, keep the data and change the angle: Alex's first version was called "AI in Business," and people weren't responding to it.</li><li>Stop asking AEs who they think will close, and read what accounts are saying across calls, email threads, support tickets and CSM notes.</li><li>Include email when you track deals, because Alex calls it the biggest store of unstructured conversational data.</li></ul><br/><p>ㅤ</p><p><strong>🕐 Chapters</strong></p><p>00:00 Intro: top of funnel content and tracking deals</p><p>01:25 The churn report built on first-party data</p><p>05:02 Why hard content wins and people follow people</p><p>07:08 Finding the pain and reframing it</p><p>11:44 What really causes churn: 17%, 25% and 27%</p><p>15:53 Most content misses: iterate on the angle</p><p>19:04 Using AI to read every account conversation</p><p>23:18 Why call-only tools miss the email sentence</p><p>ㅤ</p><p><strong>🎙️ About Pipeline</strong></p><p></p><p>Pipeline is short conversations with GTM peers who are actually filling pipeline right now, so you leave with something you can use by Monday. New episodes weekly on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and wherever you listen. Produced by Podcast 2 Pipeline.</p><p>ㅤ</p><p><strong>🏷️ Tags</strong></p><p></p><p>first-party data, content marketing, customer churn, customer success, pipeline generation, deal forecasting, revenue intelligence, AI for sales, LinkedIn content, Sturdy, Gong</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://pipeline.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">02ec35d3-79d9-4e49-8724-1321c2238751</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/d4456dea-83e8-4bcc-9bf9-f7b22aba6bf2/guest-card-3000x3000.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2026 03:54:00 -0500</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/02ec35d3-79d9-4e49-8724-1321c2238751.mp3" length="29364601" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>30:35</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>9</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/f95b2c33-0404-469b-bc8a-39ad36f65f35/transcript.srt" type="application/srt" rel="captions"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/f95b2c33-0404-469b-bc8a-39ad36f65f35/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>Turning 10% of Webinar Registrants Into Sales Calls (with Logan Lyles from DemandShift) | Ep. 8</title><itunes:title>Turning 10% of Webinar Registrants Into Sales Calls (with Logan Lyles from DemandShift) | Ep. 8</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><strong>💡 Summary</strong></p><p></p><p>Every webinar registrant lands on your thank-you page right when their intent is highest, and that page does nothing with the moment.</p><p></p><p>Only about a third of webinar registrants show up live, and the usual conversion point comes after the webinar is over. On this episode of Pipeline, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joseph-lewin/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joseph Lewin</a> talks with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/loganlyles/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Logan Lyles</a>, Founder at <a href="https://demandshift.co/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Demand Shift</a>, about moving that conversion point to signup. Logan's two-step signup flow swaps the thank-you page for a short survey of five to eight questions, asked one at a time. The survey qualifies registrants and ends with an outcome-based call to action. He says it took his own webinars from the B2B average of 2% of registrants into sales calls to 10%, and that 90% of registrants complete the survey. It works because it reaches people at their moment of highest intent, before they've moved on mentally. Logan also covers email promotion beyond your own list and topics that lead with the candy before the medicine.</p><p></p><p>Sponsored by <a href="https://podcast2pipeline.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Podcast 2 Pipeline</a></p><p>ㅤ</p><p><strong>✅ What you can use by Monday</strong></p><p></p><ul><li>Replace your webinar thank-you page with a short survey of five to eight questions, asked one at a time, that qualifies registrants and ends with an outcome-based offer.</li><li>Send registrants who say yes to the survey's final question straight to your booking page, demo signup or trial offer.</li><li>Promote beyond your own list with cold email, newsletter ads and partners or industry influencers whose email lists fit your audience.</li><li>Ask two or three people in your industry with sizable email lists to promote your webinar. Write the email copy for them and give each one a trackable link.</li><li>Pick a topic that leads with the candy, the thing capturing attention right now. Then use the education to uncover the next problem your product or service solves.</li></ul><br/><p>ㅤ</p><p><strong>🕐 Chapters</strong></p><p>00:00 Why webinars often don't convert</p><p>01:06 Two ditches: too pitchy or too educational</p><p>02:48 Fixing the registration rut with wider email promotion</p><p>05:22 Candy before the medicine: picking the topic</p><p>10:52 The two-step signup flow that replaces the thank-you page</p><p>16:45 The law firm that went from zero to 44 booked calls</p><p>19:13 What to do on Monday morning</p><p>ㅤ</p><p><strong>🎙️ About Pipeline</strong></p><p></p><p>Pipeline is short conversations with GTM peers who are actually filling pipeline right now, so you leave with something you can use by Monday. New episodes weekly on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and wherever you listen. Produced by Podcast 2 Pipeline.</p><p>ㅤ</p><p><strong>🏷️ Tags</strong></p><p></p><p>B2B webinars, webinar conversion, webinar registrations, webinar promotion, two-step signup flow, demand generation, pipeline generation, newsletter ads, cold email, cross-promotion, B2B marketing</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>💡 Summary</strong></p><p></p><p>Every webinar registrant lands on your thank-you page right when their intent is highest, and that page does nothing with the moment.</p><p></p><p>Only about a third of webinar registrants show up live, and the usual conversion point comes after the webinar is over. On this episode of Pipeline, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joseph-lewin/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joseph Lewin</a> talks with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/loganlyles/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Logan Lyles</a>, Founder at <a href="https://demandshift.co/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Demand Shift</a>, about moving that conversion point to signup. Logan's two-step signup flow swaps the thank-you page for a short survey of five to eight questions, asked one at a time. The survey qualifies registrants and ends with an outcome-based call to action. He says it took his own webinars from the B2B average of 2% of registrants into sales calls to 10%, and that 90% of registrants complete the survey. It works because it reaches people at their moment of highest intent, before they've moved on mentally. Logan also covers email promotion beyond your own list and topics that lead with the candy before the medicine.</p><p></p><p>Sponsored by <a href="https://podcast2pipeline.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Podcast 2 Pipeline</a></p><p>ㅤ</p><p><strong>✅ What you can use by Monday</strong></p><p></p><ul><li>Replace your webinar thank-you page with a short survey of five to eight questions, asked one at a time, that qualifies registrants and ends with an outcome-based offer.</li><li>Send registrants who say yes to the survey's final question straight to your booking page, demo signup or trial offer.</li><li>Promote beyond your own list with cold email, newsletter ads and partners or industry influencers whose email lists fit your audience.</li><li>Ask two or three people in your industry with sizable email lists to promote your webinar. Write the email copy for them and give each one a trackable link.</li><li>Pick a topic that leads with the candy, the thing capturing attention right now. Then use the education to uncover the next problem your product or service solves.</li></ul><br/><p>ㅤ</p><p><strong>🕐 Chapters</strong></p><p>00:00 Why webinars often don't convert</p><p>01:06 Two ditches: too pitchy or too educational</p><p>02:48 Fixing the registration rut with wider email promotion</p><p>05:22 Candy before the medicine: picking the topic</p><p>10:52 The two-step signup flow that replaces the thank-you page</p><p>16:45 The law firm that went from zero to 44 booked calls</p><p>19:13 What to do on Monday morning</p><p>ㅤ</p><p><strong>🎙️ About Pipeline</strong></p><p></p><p>Pipeline is short conversations with GTM peers who are actually filling pipeline right now, so you leave with something you can use by Monday. New episodes weekly on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and wherever you listen. Produced by Podcast 2 Pipeline.</p><p>ㅤ</p><p><strong>🏷️ Tags</strong></p><p></p><p>B2B webinars, webinar conversion, webinar registrations, webinar promotion, two-step signup flow, demand generation, pipeline generation, newsletter ads, cold email, cross-promotion, B2B marketing</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://pipeline.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">c0793443-5435-4282-9f6d-6bcdc3b8acf6</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/d3f53451-9b5f-42a5-bc19-51af1051e96a/Pipeline-Artwork.png"/><pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 03:31:00 -0500</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/c0793443-5435-4282-9f6d-6bcdc3b8acf6.mp3" length="22819360" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>23:46</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>8</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/64bbf1a9-431d-4673-8c6f-1e3a2a4d774b/transcript.srt" type="application/srt" rel="captions"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/64bbf1a9-431d-4673-8c6f-1e3a2a4d774b/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>The Moment a Prospect Feels Like a Prospect, You&apos;re Done (with Joe Fontana from Amzai) | Ep. 7</title><itunes:title>The Moment a Prospect Feels Like a Prospect, You&apos;re Done (with Joe Fontana from Amzai) | Ep. 7</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><strong>💡 Summary</strong></p><p></p><p>After a great event dinner, handing the name to an SDR to book a demo is how the pipeline goes back to zero.</p><p></p><p>On this episode of Pipeline, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joseph-lewin/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joseph Lewin</a> talks with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joe-fontana75/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joe Fontana</a>, Chief Marketing Officer at <a href="https://amzai.events/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amzai</a>, about running small dinner events where prospects feel heard instead of pitched. A subject matter expert from the client's company hosts Joe's rooms, not a seller, and comes only with a series of questions. The client's branding stays subtle, on the menus. The sellers who attend listen while prospects talk among themselves. After the dinner, the SME does a "lap" with each prospect, typically a 40-minute call, then hands the baton to the seller. Joe describes what happened when one sales team skipped that step and gave everyone a code to register for a demo as they left: 13 people in the room produced one demo.</p><p></p><p>Sponsored by <a href="https://podcast2pipeline.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Podcast 2 Pipeline</a></p><p>ㅤ</p><p><strong>✅ What you can use by Monday</strong></p><p></p><ul><li>Put a subject matter expert in charge of the dinner instead of a seller, and send them in with questions, not case studies.</li><li>Keep your brand and the venue from doing the work, so the pain on the agenda is what brings people to the table.</li><li>Book a call between the SME and each attendee before a seller gets involved, and let the SME introduce the seller.</li><li>Add one more conversation before the demo, and use it to ask what five things the prospect needs the tool to show them.</li><li>Decide how many opportunities the event should produce, then work backward to the companies and people who need to be in the room.</li></ul><br/><p>ㅤ</p><p><strong>🕐 Chapters</strong></p><p>00:00 Why events and pipeline don't always go together</p><p>00:50 Making prospects feel heard, not pitched</p><p>05:27 AI, automation and the missing human element</p><p>09:26 What one of these dinners looks like in practice</p><p>13:57 Why events fail when sellers start selling</p><p>16:45 The SME lap and baton handoff for a cybersecurity client</p><p>21:59 Reverse engineer the event and do real research</p><p>28:54 The 13 people, one demo problem</p><p>ㅤ</p><p><strong>🎙️ About Pipeline</strong></p><p></p><p>Pipeline is short conversations with GTM peers who are actually filling pipeline right now, so you leave with something you can use by Monday. New episodes weekly on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and wherever you listen. Produced by Podcast 2 Pipeline.</p><p>ㅤ</p><p><strong>🏷️ Tags</strong></p><p></p><p>B2B events, event follow-up, dinner events, pipeline generation, subject matter experts, demos, SDR handoff, sales and marketing alignment, prospect research, AI and automation, Dreamforce</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>💡 Summary</strong></p><p></p><p>After a great event dinner, handing the name to an SDR to book a demo is how the pipeline goes back to zero.</p><p></p><p>On this episode of Pipeline, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joseph-lewin/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joseph Lewin</a> talks with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joe-fontana75/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joe Fontana</a>, Chief Marketing Officer at <a href="https://amzai.events/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amzai</a>, about running small dinner events where prospects feel heard instead of pitched. A subject matter expert from the client's company hosts Joe's rooms, not a seller, and comes only with a series of questions. The client's branding stays subtle, on the menus. The sellers who attend listen while prospects talk among themselves. After the dinner, the SME does a "lap" with each prospect, typically a 40-minute call, then hands the baton to the seller. Joe describes what happened when one sales team skipped that step and gave everyone a code to register for a demo as they left: 13 people in the room produced one demo.</p><p></p><p>Sponsored by <a href="https://podcast2pipeline.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Podcast 2 Pipeline</a></p><p>ㅤ</p><p><strong>✅ What you can use by Monday</strong></p><p></p><ul><li>Put a subject matter expert in charge of the dinner instead of a seller, and send them in with questions, not case studies.</li><li>Keep your brand and the venue from doing the work, so the pain on the agenda is what brings people to the table.</li><li>Book a call between the SME and each attendee before a seller gets involved, and let the SME introduce the seller.</li><li>Add one more conversation before the demo, and use it to ask what five things the prospect needs the tool to show them.</li><li>Decide how many opportunities the event should produce, then work backward to the companies and people who need to be in the room.</li></ul><br/><p>ㅤ</p><p><strong>🕐 Chapters</strong></p><p>00:00 Why events and pipeline don't always go together</p><p>00:50 Making prospects feel heard, not pitched</p><p>05:27 AI, automation and the missing human element</p><p>09:26 What one of these dinners looks like in practice</p><p>13:57 Why events fail when sellers start selling</p><p>16:45 The SME lap and baton handoff for a cybersecurity client</p><p>21:59 Reverse engineer the event and do real research</p><p>28:54 The 13 people, one demo problem</p><p>ㅤ</p><p><strong>🎙️ About Pipeline</strong></p><p></p><p>Pipeline is short conversations with GTM peers who are actually filling pipeline right now, so you leave with something you can use by Monday. New episodes weekly on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and wherever you listen. Produced by Podcast 2 Pipeline.</p><p>ㅤ</p><p><strong>🏷️ Tags</strong></p><p></p><p>B2B events, event follow-up, dinner events, pipeline generation, subject matter experts, demos, SDR handoff, sales and marketing alignment, prospect research, AI and automation, Dreamforce</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://pipeline.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">3d64ed43-66d4-47a4-8328-f38498e4aa5d</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/d3f53451-9b5f-42a5-bc19-51af1051e96a/Pipeline-Artwork.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2026 05:04:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/3d64ed43-66d4-47a4-8328-f38498e4aa5d.mp3" length="33247442" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>34:38</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>7</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/a6bdae11-986f-4115-8b90-c7a8bc1145fe/transcript.srt" type="application/srt" rel="captions"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/a6bdae11-986f-4115-8b90-c7a8bc1145fe/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>How One Referral Partner Can Change Everything (with Derek Morgan from Refer2u) | Ep. 6</title><itunes:title>How One Referral Partner Can Change Everything (with Derek Morgan from Refer2u) | Ep. 6</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><strong>💡 Summary</strong></p><p></p><p>Two coffees with a referral partner introduction that had sat untouched in a CRM for two years turned into $11.2 million in six months.</p><p></p><p>Most teams chasing cold leads already have pipeline sitting in their CRM and their existing network. On this episode of Pipeline, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joseph-lewin/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joseph Lewin</a> talks with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/referralmarketingideas/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Derek Morgan</a>, Co-Founder &amp; CEO at <a href="https://www.refer2u.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Refer2u</a>, about building referral partnerships that bring referrals forward in quantity. Derek says a client referring a friend has to put that person into a sales process, and there's a natural human reluctance there. Introducing you to a vendor, supplier or advisor is a collaboration, which takes the pressure off the person referring. He shares the two simple questions he asks to find referral partners. He also walks through the LASER value conversation that turns "let's get to know each other" into a business conversation about what matters to the partner.</p><p></p><p>Sponsored by <a href="https://podcast2pipeline.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Podcast 2 Pipeline</a></p><p>ㅤ</p><p><strong>✅ What you can use by Monday</strong></p><p></p><ul><li>Search your CRM for introductions nobody followed up on, and book a coffee with those contacts.</li><li>At your next networking event, look for potential referral partners instead of leads, and bring a value statement for why a partner would want to work with you.</li><li>Ask two questions in every first conversation: who's an ideal customer for you, and do you work with referral partners, and who's an ideal referral partner for you?</li><li>Ask your clients to introduce you to a vendor, supplier or advisor in their world, because that's much easier for them than referring a friend into your sales process.</li><li>Build your partner pitch around LASER: leads, acceleration of deal cycle, sales conversion, expansion of revenue, products and services, and retention or re-engagement of customers.</li></ul><br/><p>ㅤ</p><p><strong>🕐 Chapters</strong></p><p>00:00 Why referrals get ignored</p><p>01:10 The $11.2 million lead sitting in a CRM</p><p>03:38 The unique zebra and clear messaging</p><p>05:49 Two questions that start a referral partnership</p><p>08:33 Why referral partners beat direct client referrals</p><p>12:37 Getting a partnership off the ground</p><p>13:25 The LASER value conversation</p><p>18:20 Measuring opportunity cost in your network</p><p>ㅤ</p><p><strong>🎙️ About Pipeline</strong></p><p></p><p>Pipeline is short conversations with GTM peers who are actually filling pipeline right now, so you leave with something you can use by Monday. New episodes weekly on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and wherever you listen. Produced by Podcast 2 Pipeline.</p><p>ㅤ</p><p><strong>🏷️ Tags</strong></p><p></p><p>B2B referrals, referral partners, referral marketing, referral partnerships, networking, CRM, pipeline generation, value proposition, partner programs, opportunity cost, B2B sales</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>💡 Summary</strong></p><p></p><p>Two coffees with a referral partner introduction that had sat untouched in a CRM for two years turned into $11.2 million in six months.</p><p></p><p>Most teams chasing cold leads already have pipeline sitting in their CRM and their existing network. On this episode of Pipeline, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joseph-lewin/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joseph Lewin</a> talks with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/referralmarketingideas/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Derek Morgan</a>, Co-Founder &amp; CEO at <a href="https://www.refer2u.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Refer2u</a>, about building referral partnerships that bring referrals forward in quantity. Derek says a client referring a friend has to put that person into a sales process, and there's a natural human reluctance there. Introducing you to a vendor, supplier or advisor is a collaboration, which takes the pressure off the person referring. He shares the two simple questions he asks to find referral partners. He also walks through the LASER value conversation that turns "let's get to know each other" into a business conversation about what matters to the partner.</p><p></p><p>Sponsored by <a href="https://podcast2pipeline.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Podcast 2 Pipeline</a></p><p>ㅤ</p><p><strong>✅ What you can use by Monday</strong></p><p></p><ul><li>Search your CRM for introductions nobody followed up on, and book a coffee with those contacts.</li><li>At your next networking event, look for potential referral partners instead of leads, and bring a value statement for why a partner would want to work with you.</li><li>Ask two questions in every first conversation: who's an ideal customer for you, and do you work with referral partners, and who's an ideal referral partner for you?</li><li>Ask your clients to introduce you to a vendor, supplier or advisor in their world, because that's much easier for them than referring a friend into your sales process.</li><li>Build your partner pitch around LASER: leads, acceleration of deal cycle, sales conversion, expansion of revenue, products and services, and retention or re-engagement of customers.</li></ul><br/><p>ㅤ</p><p><strong>🕐 Chapters</strong></p><p>00:00 Why referrals get ignored</p><p>01:10 The $11.2 million lead sitting in a CRM</p><p>03:38 The unique zebra and clear messaging</p><p>05:49 Two questions that start a referral partnership</p><p>08:33 Why referral partners beat direct client referrals</p><p>12:37 Getting a partnership off the ground</p><p>13:25 The LASER value conversation</p><p>18:20 Measuring opportunity cost in your network</p><p>ㅤ</p><p><strong>🎙️ About Pipeline</strong></p><p></p><p>Pipeline is short conversations with GTM peers who are actually filling pipeline right now, so you leave with something you can use by Monday. New episodes weekly on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and wherever you listen. Produced by Podcast 2 Pipeline.</p><p>ㅤ</p><p><strong>🏷️ Tags</strong></p><p></p><p>B2B referrals, referral partners, referral marketing, referral partnerships, networking, CRM, pipeline generation, value proposition, partner programs, opportunity cost, B2B sales</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://pipeline.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">865855a9-b888-4358-b987-296a46b0aa41</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/d3f53451-9b5f-42a5-bc19-51af1051e96a/Pipeline-Artwork.png"/><pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2026 03:29:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/865855a9-b888-4358-b987-296a46b0aa41.mp3" length="21127043" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>22:00</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>6</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/c41a3691-b125-4b50-9111-49cc85836c5e/transcript.srt" type="application/srt" rel="captions"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/c41a3691-b125-4b50-9111-49cc85836c5e/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>Do the Thinking Before You Go to AI (with Sanjana Balaraman) | Ep. 5</title><itunes:title>Do the Thinking Before You Go to AI (with Sanjana Balaraman) | Ep. 5</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>The more you lean on AI for your posts and cold emails, the closer they drift to the median.</p><p></p><p>Everyone in sales and marketing is using AI now, and that's why so much of the copy reads the same. On this episode of Pipeline, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joseph-lewin/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joseph Lewin</a> talks with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sanjana-balaraman/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sanjana Balaraman</a>, Founder at <a href="https://chapteronecreative.io/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ChapterOne Creative</a>, about using AI without letting it do your thinking. Sanjana spent two and a half years at an AI startup. Her rule is to form a point of view first and go to AI with it. She brings conversation transcripts into her prompts, directs the prompt instead of chatting with it like a colleague, and tells it to verify its sources. Her blog writing went from half a day to half an hour. But 25 minutes of that half hour was her editing the draft until it sounded like her.</p><p></p><p>What you can use by Monday:</p><p>Write out or voice-note your own point of view before you open ChatGPT or Claude, then give AI that point of view to draft from.</p><p>Add customer call transcripts or notes from a feedback conversation to the prompt, and tell AI how to lay out the draft and what to take from each one.</p><p>Put one line in every research prompt telling AI to use verified sources and say where each number came from.</p><p>Keep a list of words that read as AI and check every LinkedIn post against it before it goes out.</p><p>Before a cold email goes out, add something that's very you, like a bit of humor.</p><p></p><p>Chapters:</p><p>00:00 Why AI pulls content toward the median</p><p>01:07 Do the thinking first, then let AI draft</p><p>03:50 Where AI does the grunt work and where it doesn't</p><p>08:36 Why every piece needs your lens on it</p><p>12:34 Get ideas from your head and from customers before prompting</p><p>17:24 Tell AI to use verified sources</p><p>19:57 Editing the first draft to sound like you</p><p>23:33 What ChapterOne Creative helps with</p><p></p><p>Pipeline is short conversations with GTM peers who are actually filling pipeline right now, so you leave with something you can use by Monday. New episodes weekly on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and wherever you listen. Produced by Podcast 2 Pipeline.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more you lean on AI for your posts and cold emails, the closer they drift to the median.</p><p></p><p>Everyone in sales and marketing is using AI now, and that's why so much of the copy reads the same. On this episode of Pipeline, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joseph-lewin/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joseph Lewin</a> talks with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sanjana-balaraman/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sanjana Balaraman</a>, Founder at <a href="https://chapteronecreative.io/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ChapterOne Creative</a>, about using AI without letting it do your thinking. Sanjana spent two and a half years at an AI startup. Her rule is to form a point of view first and go to AI with it. She brings conversation transcripts into her prompts, directs the prompt instead of chatting with it like a colleague, and tells it to verify its sources. Her blog writing went from half a day to half an hour. But 25 minutes of that half hour was her editing the draft until it sounded like her.</p><p></p><p>What you can use by Monday:</p><p>Write out or voice-note your own point of view before you open ChatGPT or Claude, then give AI that point of view to draft from.</p><p>Add customer call transcripts or notes from a feedback conversation to the prompt, and tell AI how to lay out the draft and what to take from each one.</p><p>Put one line in every research prompt telling AI to use verified sources and say where each number came from.</p><p>Keep a list of words that read as AI and check every LinkedIn post against it before it goes out.</p><p>Before a cold email goes out, add something that's very you, like a bit of humor.</p><p></p><p>Chapters:</p><p>00:00 Why AI pulls content toward the median</p><p>01:07 Do the thinking first, then let AI draft</p><p>03:50 Where AI does the grunt work and where it doesn't</p><p>08:36 Why every piece needs your lens on it</p><p>12:34 Get ideas from your head and from customers before prompting</p><p>17:24 Tell AI to use verified sources</p><p>19:57 Editing the first draft to sound like you</p><p>23:33 What ChapterOne Creative helps with</p><p></p><p>Pipeline is short conversations with GTM peers who are actually filling pipeline right now, so you leave with something you can use by Monday. New episodes weekly on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and wherever you listen. Produced by Podcast 2 Pipeline.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://pipeline.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">df64ebb1-2802-47de-9ea6-1c85e33f060b</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/d3f53451-9b5f-42a5-bc19-51af1051e96a/Pipeline-Artwork.png"/><pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2026 03:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/df64ebb1-2802-47de-9ea6-1c85e33f060b.mp3" length="26048095" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>27:08</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>5</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Why We Call the Customer Who Orders a $50 Check Valve (with Gil Welsford) | Ep. 4</title><itunes:title>Why We Call the Customer Who Orders a $50 Check Valve (with Gil Welsford) | Ep. 4</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Someone buying a pneumatically actuated ball valve doesn't need it in their house, so ValveMan calls to ask what else they need.</p><p></p><p>Gil Welsford launched ValveMan to sell industrial valves online without ever having to talk to a customer. On this episode of Pipeline, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joseph-lewin/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joseph Lewin</a> talks with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/gilbertwelsford/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gil Welsford</a>, Founder and CEO at <a href="https://valveman.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ValveMan</a>, about why that changed. The website was bringing in one-off sales. In 2022, Gil and his brother started calling the customers who order on it and asking if they need anything else. The idea came from the relationship model behind the company his grandfather started in 1965, which his father kept. Even a $50 check valve order gets a call. Gil also explains how he built the new site with <a href="https://claude.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Claude</a> as a self-described non-tech guy. He also explains why he wants AI to free up his team's time so they can talk with people.</p><p></p><p>What you can use by Monday:</p><p>Call the customers who place orders on your website and ask if they need anything else.</p><p>Call on small orders too: ValveMan calls the customer who places a $50 check valve order.</p><p>Write down your top five customers right now and call each one with nothing to sell, just to build the relationship.</p><p>When someone comes to mind, listen to the nudge and send the text or make the call instead of letting it go.</p><p></p><p>Chapters:</p><p>00:00 AI in service of human relationships</p><p>01:19 A new website built with Claude</p><p>05:16 Three generations of valves and why ValveMan started calling customers</p><p>10:56 Why relationships outsell transactional selling over time</p><p>13:46 Using AI to free up time for conversations</p><p>16:34 Getting out of the quarterly-profit mindset</p><p>22:27 What to do Monday: call your top five customers</p><p></p><p>Pipeline is short conversations with GTM peers who are actually filling pipeline right now, so you leave with something you can use by Monday. New episodes weekly on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and wherever you listen. Produced by Podcast 2 Pipeline.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone buying a pneumatically actuated ball valve doesn't need it in their house, so ValveMan calls to ask what else they need.</p><p></p><p>Gil Welsford launched ValveMan to sell industrial valves online without ever having to talk to a customer. On this episode of Pipeline, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joseph-lewin/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joseph Lewin</a> talks with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/gilbertwelsford/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gil Welsford</a>, Founder and CEO at <a href="https://valveman.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ValveMan</a>, about why that changed. The website was bringing in one-off sales. In 2022, Gil and his brother started calling the customers who order on it and asking if they need anything else. The idea came from the relationship model behind the company his grandfather started in 1965, which his father kept. Even a $50 check valve order gets a call. Gil also explains how he built the new site with <a href="https://claude.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Claude</a> as a self-described non-tech guy. He also explains why he wants AI to free up his team's time so they can talk with people.</p><p></p><p>What you can use by Monday:</p><p>Call the customers who place orders on your website and ask if they need anything else.</p><p>Call on small orders too: ValveMan calls the customer who places a $50 check valve order.</p><p>Write down your top five customers right now and call each one with nothing to sell, just to build the relationship.</p><p>When someone comes to mind, listen to the nudge and send the text or make the call instead of letting it go.</p><p></p><p>Chapters:</p><p>00:00 AI in service of human relationships</p><p>01:19 A new website built with Claude</p><p>05:16 Three generations of valves and why ValveMan started calling customers</p><p>10:56 Why relationships outsell transactional selling over time</p><p>13:46 Using AI to free up time for conversations</p><p>16:34 Getting out of the quarterly-profit mindset</p><p>22:27 What to do Monday: call your top five customers</p><p></p><p>Pipeline is short conversations with GTM peers who are actually filling pipeline right now, so you leave with something you can use by Monday. New episodes weekly on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and wherever you listen. Produced by Podcast 2 Pipeline.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://pipeline.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">e9ccf63e-218a-4287-bc69-038a8eb48b2b</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/d3f53451-9b5f-42a5-bc19-51af1051e96a/Pipeline-Artwork.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2026 03:38:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/e9ccf63e-218a-4287-bc69-038a8eb48b2b.mp3" length="24865270" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>25:54</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>4</podcast:episode></item><item><title>You&apos;ll Get Tired of Your Point of View Before Buyers Do (with John Rougeux from Flag &amp; Frontier) | Ep. 3</title><itunes:title>You&apos;ll Get Tired of Your Point of View Before Buyers Do (with John Rougeux from Flag &amp; Frontier) | Ep. 3</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>A strong point of view never reaches the market until the executive team agrees on it.</p><p></p><p>On this episode of Pipeline, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joseph-lewin/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joseph Lewin</a> talks with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnbrougeux/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">John Rougeux</a>, Founder at <a href="https://www.flagandfrontier.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Flag &amp; Frontier</a>, about building a strategic narrative and what happens after the work is done. John compares the forgettable brand to the artwork on a hotel wall: it doesn't offend anybody, and it's completely unremarkable. His answer for what the work looks like in practice is structured debate among the executive team, since work done inside a marketing department or outsourced to a PR or comms group misses the point. He's also honest about results. A different point of view takes time for buyers to process, and your team will get tired of talking about it far sooner than buyers do. Pipeline is sponsored by <a href="https://podcast2pipeline.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Podcast 2 Pipeline</a>.</p><p></p><p>What you can use by Monday:</p><p>Put the strategic narrative to your executive team as a structured debate instead of handing it to marketing or a PR group.</p><p>Have the team answer what you're trying to do that no one else is trying to do, and how you see things differently than competitors.</p><p>Keep talking about the problem, and not only your solution, well after your own team is bored of the message.</p><p>Before you start, ask what's preventing the business from going further or faster, because the narrative may not be the first thing to fix.</p><p></p><p>Chapters:</p><p>00:00 Why messaging drives pipeline</p><p>00:59 The painter analogy and hotel artwork</p><p>05:02 A fine art photographer and positioning</p><p>08:07 One story across the whole organization</p><p>11:02 Structured debate and patience with the market</p><p>14:33 What to do on Monday: be curious</p><p></p><p>Pipeline is short conversations with GTM peers who are actually filling pipeline right now, so you leave with something you can use by Monday. New episodes weekly on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and wherever you listen. Produced by Podcast 2 Pipeline.</p><p></p><p>Tags:</p><p>strategic narrative, B2B positioning, differentiated messaging, point of view, B2B messaging, executive team, brand consistency, B2B marketing, B2B SaaS, pipeline generation</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A strong point of view never reaches the market until the executive team agrees on it.</p><p></p><p>On this episode of Pipeline, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joseph-lewin/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joseph Lewin</a> talks with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnbrougeux/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">John Rougeux</a>, Founder at <a href="https://www.flagandfrontier.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Flag &amp; Frontier</a>, about building a strategic narrative and what happens after the work is done. John compares the forgettable brand to the artwork on a hotel wall: it doesn't offend anybody, and it's completely unremarkable. His answer for what the work looks like in practice is structured debate among the executive team, since work done inside a marketing department or outsourced to a PR or comms group misses the point. He's also honest about results. A different point of view takes time for buyers to process, and your team will get tired of talking about it far sooner than buyers do. Pipeline is sponsored by <a href="https://podcast2pipeline.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Podcast 2 Pipeline</a>.</p><p></p><p>What you can use by Monday:</p><p>Put the strategic narrative to your executive team as a structured debate instead of handing it to marketing or a PR group.</p><p>Have the team answer what you're trying to do that no one else is trying to do, and how you see things differently than competitors.</p><p>Keep talking about the problem, and not only your solution, well after your own team is bored of the message.</p><p>Before you start, ask what's preventing the business from going further or faster, because the narrative may not be the first thing to fix.</p><p></p><p>Chapters:</p><p>00:00 Why messaging drives pipeline</p><p>00:59 The painter analogy and hotel artwork</p><p>05:02 A fine art photographer and positioning</p><p>08:07 One story across the whole organization</p><p>11:02 Structured debate and patience with the market</p><p>14:33 What to do on Monday: be curious</p><p></p><p>Pipeline is short conversations with GTM peers who are actually filling pipeline right now, so you leave with something you can use by Monday. New episodes weekly on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and wherever you listen. Produced by Podcast 2 Pipeline.</p><p></p><p>Tags:</p><p>strategic narrative, B2B positioning, differentiated messaging, point of view, B2B messaging, executive team, brand consistency, B2B marketing, B2B SaaS, pipeline generation</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://pipeline.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">19d8e530-d7fe-4277-bdf2-fb0c3213bc7f</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/d3f53451-9b5f-42a5-bc19-51af1051e96a/Pipeline-Artwork.png"/><pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2026 03:13:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/19d8e530-d7fe-4277-bdf2-fb0c3213bc7f.mp3" length="16758952" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>17:27</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>3</podcast:episode><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/3b193008-a59a-43f3-afdd-d797a32d92cc/transcript.srt" type="application/srt" rel="captions"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/3b193008-a59a-43f3-afdd-d797a32d92cc/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>The Mutual Action Plan as a Lie Detector (with Kaveh Pazooki from Surfe) | Ep. 2</title><itunes:title>The Mutual Action Plan as a Lie Detector (with Kaveh Pazooki from Surfe) | Ep. 2</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>The fastest way to find out whether a deal is real is to ask the prospect for homework.</p><p></p><p>Most mutual action plans get built because middle management wants one in place, which makes them a formality. On this episode of Pipeline, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joseph-lewin/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joseph Lewin</a> talks with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kaveh-pazooki-97696730/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kaveh Pazooki</a>, Founding Account Executive at Surfe, about running one as a lie detector instead. Kaveh has sold at Datadog, Rippling, and Salesforce, and he builds the plan with the prospect rather than presenting it at them. After a large demo where most people just nod along, he books five-minute one-on-ones with the end users and asks what’s working well enough with the incumbent to make them hesitate. That surfaces pain the original champion never had, and it’s what feeds the ROI analysis for the economic buyer at the end.</p><p></p><p>What you can use by Monday:</p><ul><li>Take your top three active deals and check whether each one actually has a mutual action plan attached to it.</li><li>Look at whether the prospect has deliverables on that plan, not just you, and whether they’ve executed on them.</li><li>If the answer is no across the board, park the deal outside the quarter instead of forecasting it.</li><li>Bring those gaps to your forecast meeting and ask your manager to strategize on how to mitigate the risk.</li><li>After a group demo, book five-minute one-on-ones with the end users and keep doing discovery on what they like about their current tool.</li></ul><br/><p><strong>Chapters</strong></p><p>00:00 Meet Kaveh Pazooki: Datadog, Rippling, Salesforce, and Now Surfe</p><p>00:31 Why a Mutual Action Plan Is Really a Lie Detector</p><p>01:15 What a MAP Does: Multithreading, Forecasting, and the POC Timeline</p><p>03:07 Rose-Colored Glasses: When Champion Excitement Isn’t Enough</p><p>03:58 Deal Breakdown: Escaping a Single-Threaded RevOps Champion</p><p>05:22 The 5-Minute One-on-One That Uncovers Hidden Pain</p><p>06:29 Mid-Trial Check-Ins and the Economic Buyer Red Flag</p><p>07:15 Sponsor: Podcast to Pipeline</p><p>08:11 Monday Morning Playbook: Audit Your Top 3 Deals</p><p>10:16 How to Introduce a MAP Without Stepping on Your Champion’s Toes</p><p>11:59 Beach or Mountains?</p><p>Pipeline is short conversations with GTM peers who are actually filling pipeline right now, so you leave with something you can use by Monday. New episodes weekly on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and wherever you listen. Produced by Podcast 2 Pipeline.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fastest way to find out whether a deal is real is to ask the prospect for homework.</p><p></p><p>Most mutual action plans get built because middle management wants one in place, which makes them a formality. On this episode of Pipeline, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joseph-lewin/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joseph Lewin</a> talks with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kaveh-pazooki-97696730/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kaveh Pazooki</a>, Founding Account Executive at Surfe, about running one as a lie detector instead. Kaveh has sold at Datadog, Rippling, and Salesforce, and he builds the plan with the prospect rather than presenting it at them. After a large demo where most people just nod along, he books five-minute one-on-ones with the end users and asks what’s working well enough with the incumbent to make them hesitate. That surfaces pain the original champion never had, and it’s what feeds the ROI analysis for the economic buyer at the end.</p><p></p><p>What you can use by Monday:</p><ul><li>Take your top three active deals and check whether each one actually has a mutual action plan attached to it.</li><li>Look at whether the prospect has deliverables on that plan, not just you, and whether they’ve executed on them.</li><li>If the answer is no across the board, park the deal outside the quarter instead of forecasting it.</li><li>Bring those gaps to your forecast meeting and ask your manager to strategize on how to mitigate the risk.</li><li>After a group demo, book five-minute one-on-ones with the end users and keep doing discovery on what they like about their current tool.</li></ul><br/><p><strong>Chapters</strong></p><p>00:00 Meet Kaveh Pazooki: Datadog, Rippling, Salesforce, and Now Surfe</p><p>00:31 Why a Mutual Action Plan Is Really a Lie Detector</p><p>01:15 What a MAP Does: Multithreading, Forecasting, and the POC Timeline</p><p>03:07 Rose-Colored Glasses: When Champion Excitement Isn’t Enough</p><p>03:58 Deal Breakdown: Escaping a Single-Threaded RevOps Champion</p><p>05:22 The 5-Minute One-on-One That Uncovers Hidden Pain</p><p>06:29 Mid-Trial Check-Ins and the Economic Buyer Red Flag</p><p>07:15 Sponsor: Podcast to Pipeline</p><p>08:11 Monday Morning Playbook: Audit Your Top 3 Deals</p><p>10:16 How to Introduce a MAP Without Stepping on Your Champion’s Toes</p><p>11:59 Beach or Mountains?</p><p>Pipeline is short conversations with GTM peers who are actually filling pipeline right now, so you leave with something you can use by Monday. New episodes weekly on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and wherever you listen. Produced by Podcast 2 Pipeline.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://pipeline.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">869af61e-120d-47ce-9bcb-5bf8cda5529f</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/d3f53451-9b5f-42a5-bc19-51af1051e96a/Pipeline-Artwork.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2026 03:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/869af61e-120d-47ce-9bcb-5bf8cda5529f.mp3" length="12584851" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>13:07</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>2</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/916ba684-b476-4945-a95d-144bf68670bd/transcript.srt" type="application/srt" rel="captions"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/916ba684-b476-4945-a95d-144bf68670bd/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>Why Your AI Gets Worse The Longer You Use It (with Jack Taubl from Ocean.io) | Ep. 1</title><itunes:title>Why Your AI Gets Worse The Longer You Use It (with Jack Taubl from Ocean.io) | Ep. 1</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Your AI was working great, and then it started handing back the same twenty companies it gave you last month.</p><p></p><p>On this episode of Pipeline, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joseph-lewin/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joseph Lewin</a> talks with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-taubl-14561a76/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jack Taubl</a>, Director of Sales at <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/ocean.io/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ocean.io</a>, about why AI output decays the longer you work inside one chat, and what to do about it. Jack's explanation is structural. Providers earn their margin on the efficiency of their models, so a long thread gets compacted to control cost, and quality erodes by design rather than by accident. His fix takes three steps a seller can run Monday morning: work inside a project instead of one endless thread, load that project with real grounding documents like a prospect's most recent 10-K, and set a scheduled action that rebuilds your daily briefing on a fixed refresh. He runs his at 4:00 a.m. to keep credits down.</p><p></p><p><strong>Chapters:</strong></p><p>00:00 Intro: why AI stops working for GTM</p><p>01:13 Why AI output degrades: compaction and vague prompts</p><p>02:49 Fixing context drift with Claude Projects</p><p>04:33 Contextual grounding: one account record across every system</p><p>05:58 The LLM is the execution layer, not the database</p><p>08:36 Why MCPs are replacing platform-hopping</p><p>11:29 Bad data, misaligned teams, and the compounding hidden cost</p><p>13:43 Turning account data into segmentation and territory strategy</p><p>16:39 Pulling account context into Claude for rep briefings</p><p>17:54 Why more data isn’t the differentiator</p><p>20:26 Monday-morning playbook: Projects, context files, scheduled tasks, MCPs</p><p>23:21 Rapid fire: books over hikes</p><p>24:42 Where to find Jack</p><p></p><p><strong>What you can use by Monday:</strong></p><ul><li>Move broad, open-ended work into a project instead of one long chat, so every new chat inherits the context from the others.</li><li>Upload real grounding documents into the project knowledge before you ask for anything, like a prospect's most recent 10-K.</li><li>When an answer feels off, open a fresh chat inside the same project and switch the reasoning model instead of arguing with the drift.</li><li>Set a scheduled action that rebuilds your daily briefing on a fixed refresh, so the list you work from is current.</li><li>Ask specific questions with an end in mind. Ambiguous questions return ambiguous results every time.</li></ul><br/><p></p><p>Pipeline is short conversations with GTM peers who are actually filling pipeline right now, so you leave with something you can use by Monday. New episodes weekly on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and wherever you listen. Produced by Podcast 2 Pipeline.</p><p></p><p>Enjoy the episode! It's a good one!</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your AI was working great, and then it started handing back the same twenty companies it gave you last month.</p><p></p><p>On this episode of Pipeline, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joseph-lewin/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joseph Lewin</a> talks with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-taubl-14561a76/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jack Taubl</a>, Director of Sales at <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/ocean.io/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ocean.io</a>, about why AI output decays the longer you work inside one chat, and what to do about it. Jack's explanation is structural. Providers earn their margin on the efficiency of their models, so a long thread gets compacted to control cost, and quality erodes by design rather than by accident. His fix takes three steps a seller can run Monday morning: work inside a project instead of one endless thread, load that project with real grounding documents like a prospect's most recent 10-K, and set a scheduled action that rebuilds your daily briefing on a fixed refresh. He runs his at 4:00 a.m. to keep credits down.</p><p></p><p><strong>Chapters:</strong></p><p>00:00 Intro: why AI stops working for GTM</p><p>01:13 Why AI output degrades: compaction and vague prompts</p><p>02:49 Fixing context drift with Claude Projects</p><p>04:33 Contextual grounding: one account record across every system</p><p>05:58 The LLM is the execution layer, not the database</p><p>08:36 Why MCPs are replacing platform-hopping</p><p>11:29 Bad data, misaligned teams, and the compounding hidden cost</p><p>13:43 Turning account data into segmentation and territory strategy</p><p>16:39 Pulling account context into Claude for rep briefings</p><p>17:54 Why more data isn’t the differentiator</p><p>20:26 Monday-morning playbook: Projects, context files, scheduled tasks, MCPs</p><p>23:21 Rapid fire: books over hikes</p><p>24:42 Where to find Jack</p><p></p><p><strong>What you can use by Monday:</strong></p><ul><li>Move broad, open-ended work into a project instead of one long chat, so every new chat inherits the context from the others.</li><li>Upload real grounding documents into the project knowledge before you ask for anything, like a prospect's most recent 10-K.</li><li>When an answer feels off, open a fresh chat inside the same project and switch the reasoning model instead of arguing with the drift.</li><li>Set a scheduled action that rebuilds your daily briefing on a fixed refresh, so the list you work from is current.</li><li>Ask specific questions with an end in mind. Ambiguous questions return ambiguous results every time.</li></ul><br/><p></p><p>Pipeline is short conversations with GTM peers who are actually filling pipeline right now, so you leave with something you can use by Monday. New episodes weekly on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and wherever you listen. Produced by Podcast 2 Pipeline.</p><p></p><p>Enjoy the episode! It's a good one!</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://pipeline.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">c549a95a-6dcc-41e1-b169-7532f860e8e4</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/d3f53451-9b5f-42a5-bc19-51af1051e96a/Pipeline-Artwork.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2026 03:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/c549a95a-6dcc-41e1-b169-7532f860e8e4.mp3" length="24306925" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>25:19</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>1</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/73801439-3f05-4c1c-8e62-d60ed635e44a/transcript.srt" type="application/srt" rel="captions"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/transcript/73801439-3f05-4c1c-8e62-d60ed635e44a/index.html" type="text/html"/></item><item><title>Welcome to Pipeline. The show for B2B GTM leaders—like you!</title><itunes:title>Welcome to Pipeline. The show for B2B GTM leaders—like you!</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Is there anything more stressful than an empty pipeline? If you're in sales or marketing, you already know the feeling—meetings on the calendar, real effort going in, and the pipeline still not moving.</p><p></p><p>Host Joseph Lewin knows it too—the tightness in his chest at dinner, the brain that won't switch off on a weekend when the pipeline's dry.</p><p></p><p>Some of your peers are filling pipeline and crushing quota right now. Not because they're smarter. Not because they're working harder. So what are they doing differently?</p><p></p><p>That's Pipeline.</p><p></p><p>Short conversations with the people actually doing it, not another B2B show full of backstory and theory with nothing to use on Monday.</p><p></p><p>Each episode, Joseph talks to a peer about what's working for them right now, so you leave with something you can actually apply.</p><p></p><p>If you're burnt out from the late nights with too little to show for them, this is your show. New episodes weekly on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and wherever you listen.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there anything more stressful than an empty pipeline? If you're in sales or marketing, you already know the feeling—meetings on the calendar, real effort going in, and the pipeline still not moving.</p><p></p><p>Host Joseph Lewin knows it too—the tightness in his chest at dinner, the brain that won't switch off on a weekend when the pipeline's dry.</p><p></p><p>Some of your peers are filling pipeline and crushing quota right now. Not because they're smarter. Not because they're working harder. So what are they doing differently?</p><p></p><p>That's Pipeline.</p><p></p><p>Short conversations with the people actually doing it, not another B2B show full of backstory and theory with nothing to use on Monday.</p><p></p><p>Each episode, Joseph talks to a peer about what's working for them right now, so you leave with something you can actually apply.</p><p></p><p>If you're burnt out from the late nights with too little to show for them, this is your show. New episodes weekly on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and wherever you listen.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://pipeline.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">57616afb-e06b-4abd-a106-e46e8ef71728</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/d3f53451-9b5f-42a5-bc19-51af1051e96a/Pipeline-Artwork.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2026 17:10:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/57616afb-e06b-4abd-a106-e46e8ef71728.mp3" length="3419212" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:46</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>trailer</itunes:episodeType></item></channel></rss>