I will be joining you in your learning as I chat with guest experts and ask the questions

• What is the ‘thing’?

• How can it enhance my listening or podcasting experience?

• How do I do it?

The show features ‘learning’ and ‘practice’ episodes, so will guide you through the process of doing the ‘thing’ as a listener and a creator, including tailored guidance for specific apps and hosts, supplemented by imagery and links in the chapters – you’ll learn about those too!

Please Follow or Subscribe to have the first episode of this exciting interactive new show pop up in your app when it launches in January 2025.

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In this introductory episode of Podcasting 2.0 in Practice, find out who I am and why I chose to make this show.

You'll also learn how the show works, since this is not a passive listen but an interactive course.

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Before we get onto the features – or tags – of Podcasting 2.0 – basically the things that you can do – I want to focus on why you need them and how they can help you, without going into the details of what they are – yet.

Features of Podcasting 2.0 can offer solutions to common problems that podcasts experience around:

• Discovery
• Interactivity
• Monetization

Sam Sethi and I look into how these problems affect podcasters and listeners, and touch on how the rest of this course will start to present solutions to these common problems.

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In this episode, Sarah Ferris and I discuss the pros and cons of:

• Paid advertising
• Sourcing sponsors
• Subscription models like Patreon, Buy Me a Coffee and Apple Subscriptions
• Affiliate marketing

We also ask:

• How much can podcasters expect to get paid?
• How much extra work is needed – for example sourcing sponsors, preparing extra content for subscribers?

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David and Leila Medus share their experiences and insights of listener support for their show Fun Fact Friday, and discuss the importance of communicating this model to listeners, encouraging them to contribute in ways that resonate personally, such as sending thoughtful gifts or feedback.

We discuss:

• The value for value ethos.
• What is meant by ‘time, talent and treasure’.
• How to tell your listeners the ways they can help you.

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Podcasting 2.0 enhances the listener's experience through innovative features. Dave Jackson, a veteran in the podcasting world, discusses these advancements that bring more power to the listener.

• What is a podcast app/listener app?
• What’s the difference between a podcast app and a podcast player?
• What is a modern/Podcasting 2.0 podcast app?
• What is a hosting company/media host?
• How do I get an RSS feed?
• Do I as a podcaster have to do anything special to have my show available in modern podcast apps?
• What is the Podcast Index and why is it good?
• Who’s coming up with these new ideas for podcasting and how do they get implemented?

Resources

Creativityfound.co.uk/podcasting

Podcastindex.org

Newpodcasts.com

Podcasting2.org

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I’ve assigned some light homework for both creators and listeners to familiarize themselves with these apps and explore their functionalities.

Tasks

1. Start putting into action what you learnt in 101 and 2.0: Podcast Basics by exploring modern podcast apps and digging deeper into your hosting company's capabilities.
2. Submit your show to the Podcast Index.

References

newpodcasts.com

podcasting2.org/apps

podcasting2.org/publishing-tools

podcastindex.org/add

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In this chat James shares insights on the origins of podcasting, tracing its roots back to a blog post written by Adam Curry in 2001 and the subsequent collaboration with Dave Weiner to develop RSS technology for audio distribution. This collaboration was instrumental in democratizing audio content creation, allowing anyone with a microphone and a computer to share their voice with the world.

We hear about the disputed origin of the word 'podcast', and the impact of Apple’s involvement on the medium's popularity and mainstream acceptance.

For nearly a decade after the initial boom, podcasting saw little innovation, leading to a perception that the medium had become stale.

Introduce to the stage, Podcasting 2.0, the initiative designed to bring new features to the forefront of podcasting, enhancing user experience and encouraging deeper interaction with audio content and its creators.

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Daniel J. Lewis explains how these chapters function similarly to a slideshow, enhancing the listening experience with images and actionable links that can be updated independently from the audio file.

This innovation not only helps listeners skip to the parts they care about most but also makes the content more accessible and engaging.

As Daniel shares his extensive podcasting background, he emphasizes the importance of focusing on the audience's needs and the potential for chapters to improve content discovery in the future.

• What is a chapter in a podcast?
• Podcasting 2.0 allows you to change your chapters even after the episode is published.
• How many chapters should I include?

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Whether you're walking the dog or working out at the gym, you'll discover how easy it is to glance at your device and see not just the chapter title but also the associated image and links.

Tasks

• Find the Play Screen on your podcast listening app – the gateway to a world of features!
• Locate chapter lists on a few of the podcast listening apps.

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Mentioned in this episode:

Updates to TrueFans book icon

I have made a post-production update to the chapter called TrueFans: chapters icon. Ignore what I said about a different screen, BUT, as well as scrolling down you can click on the icon that looks like a bulleted list NOT a little book icon. It also might not be 4th from the left, it might be third. I HAVE updated the photo that corresponds to this chapter, so that is correct . . . for now!.

Earn some imaginary extra credit as you learn how super chapters could enable podcasters to incorporate polls, image galleries, and even formatted text blocks directly into their episodes. This innovation aims to enhance listener interaction by allowing them to engage with content, such as swiping through images or clicking on links, all while enjoying the audio.

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Captivate's Danny Brown explains how the funding model enhances interactivity by making it easier for fans to contribute financially, whether it’s through Patreon, Buy Me a Coffee, or direct payments.

The conversation emphasizes the importance of reducing barriers between listeners and podcasters, allowing for various payment options that cater to individual preferences.

Claire and Danny also discuss practical tips for podcasters on how to effectively communicate this funding opportunity to their audience, ensuring listeners know how to support their favourite shows.

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Task: Listeners

• Find the funding symbol on some of the popular 2.0 listening apps.

Task: Podcasters

• Set up your own funding link using hosts' inbuilt subscription offerings or by linking to your own payment page.
• Tell your listeners how they can financially support you using the funding features.

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Ellie Rubinstein, head of Pocket Casts, explains how transcripts serve as written versions of podcast episodes, making them searchable and enabling better audience engagement.

In a crowded content environment, by attaching transcripts to their episodes using the Podcasting 2.0 tags, podcasters can increase their reach and visibility on search engines. Additionally, 2.0 transcripts allow creators to maintain control over their content, ensuring accuracy and authenticity, especially when it comes to correcting AI-generated text.

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Tasks: Listeners

• Locate transcripts for episodes on modern listening apps.
• Search for key words or phrases.

Tasks: Podcasters

• Make a transcript from your audio.
• Upload or copy and paste your transcript to your hosting company.

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Task

• Manually input, or edit, chapter timestamps, headings, pictures and links.

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Cridland emphasizes the importance of providing high-quality transcripts that not only enhance the listening experience for all users, including those with hearing impairments, but also ensure legal compliance with accessibility laws.

The episode further explores the technical aspects of transcript formats like SRT and VTT, with Cridland advocating for VTT due to its superior functionality, such as speaker identification.

The conversation culminates in a compelling call to action for podcasters to take control of their transcripts, ensuring accuracy and enhancing engagement with their audience.

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Locate transcripts on Apple Podcasts, find out how chapters appear there, and learn how to ensure your transcribed content is presented exactly as you intend by clicking that toggle. 

Tasks:

• Locate the transcript for an episode on Apple Podcasts.
• Revise legacy chapters: Apple Podcasts supports these but not 2.0 chapters.
• Instruct Apple Podcasts to display your own transcripts instead of their default option.

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With podroll, creators can curate a list of shows that align with their content and audience interests. In this episode, Buzzsprout's Jordan Blair details how the 2.0 podroll feature can enhance discoverability and foster a sense of community among podcasters.

We discuss practical ways to implement it, and get excited about its capacity to foster collaboration among podcasters, encouraging us to think creatively about our content and our community.

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Tasks:

• Locate the podroll recommendations for Podcasting 2.0 in Practice
• Claim your show in TrueFans
• Add your own podroll recommendations in TrueFans
• See how Spotify does something similar – but not as good 😊
• Add your own podroll recommendations with your hosting company

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From simple feedback to organized group requests, we can encourage these platforms to embrace the Podcasting 2.0 features that we believe are beneficial to all.

Persistence is key; by continually advocating for our needs, we can influence the uptake of 2.0 technology. So, let’s get proactive and show them we care about the features that matter most to us!

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Boosts (we'll talk about streaming too soon!) are in-app payments that also serve as a discovery mechanism for shows. These micropayments, enabled by Bitcoin – which can be converted into local currencies – not only enhance the monetization potential for podcasters but also increase visibility for their content. By sharing boosts, listeners can let their networks know about the shows they enjoy, creating a powerful feedback loop between creators and their audience.

Fountain.fm's Oscar Merry explains how boosts function similarly to traditional support platforms but with a significant advantage: they happen in real-time and foster a sense of community. Listeners become ambassadors for the content they love, sharing their support in a way that promotes further discovery and engagement.

We also touch on the importance of actively inviting listeners to support the show through boosts. It’s clear that communication is key; if podcasters don’t ask for support, their audience might not think to provide it. Oscar shares insights on how successful shows incorporate regular calls to action, highlighting the value of their content and the role of listener contributions in continuing their work. This not only builds a stronger connection with the audience but also encourages a culture of support and feedback, vital for the growth of any podcast.

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This is the story of how I communicated and became friends with the hosts of Buzzcast and Podnews Weekly Review (my favourite podcasts about podcasting) by commenting on the shows through boosts.

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Tasks:

• Locate boost/comment/super comment options on modern listening apps.
• Open a wallet within Fountain or TrueFans.
• Earn a few 'freebie' sats.
• Set default boost/super comment amounts.

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Fountain.fm's Oscar Merry joins me to explain how this support mechanism works, and how it can make a big difference to the creators you love without making a big hole in your pocket.

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Tasks:

• Turn streaming on and off on modern listening apps.
• See what episodes have been streamed.
• Set an amount to pay per minute on an episode-by-episode basis.
• Set default streaming per-minute-payment amounts in some apps.

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PLUS, when listeners send micropayments to podcasters they build up in your digital wallet for you to use to support other shows, or to take out as actual money you can spend in a shop!

In this episode we look at your wallet options within TrueFans and Fountain, with the help of Sam Sethi and Oscar Merry

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Tasks:

• Top up your TrueFans wallet.
• Open a Strike account.
• Deposit funds to your Fountain wallet.
• Withdraw funds from your Fountain wallet.

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Sam Sethi joins me to explain more about the RSS feed, tags, the namespace and the Podcast Standards Project.

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If you are now hooked on new podcasting technologies, let Sam Sethi give you a taste of what could be to come, with a chat about the location tag and publisher feeds.

In this episode Sam and I discuss how the location tag can help us find others in our area who share similar interests, making it easier to organize real-world meetups and foster connections beyond just the digital realm.

We also explore publisher feeds, which can streamline the discovery of new podcasts from favourite creators, ensuring that we never miss out on great content from those we already love. 

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A reflection on the twists and turns of this project, a last piece of homework, and lots of thank yous.

Let me know what you want to hear next!

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This is an update episode, and so connects directly with a previous episode of Podcasting 2.0 in Practice.

If you are new to the subject of Podcasting 2.0, I highly recommend that you complete the Podcasting 2.0 in Practice course. This is basically a podcast series that looks at just one 2.0 feature – also known as a tag – at a time and teaches you what it is, why it’s good, and how to make it work. The course focuses specifically on how each feature can help podcasters with discovery, interactivity or monetisation – or a combination of the three.

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This is an update episode, and so connects directly with a previous episode of Podcasting 2.0 in Practice.

If you are new to the subject of Podcasting 2.0, I highly recommend that you complete the Podcasting 2.0 in Practice course. This is basically a podcast series that looks at just one 2.0 feature – also known as a tag – at a time and teaches you what it is, why it’s good, and how to make it work. The course focuses specifically on how each feature can help podcasters with discovery, interactivity or monetisation – or a combination of the three.

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This is an update episode, and so connects directly with a previous episode of Podcasting 2.0 in Practice.

If you are new to the subject of Podcasting 2.0, I highly recommend that you complete the Podcasting 2.0 in Practice course. This is basically a podcast series that looks at just one 2.0 feature – also known as a tag – at a time and teaches you what it is, why it’s good, and how to make it work. The course focuses specifically on how each feature can help podcasters with discovery, interactivity or monetisation – or a combination of the three.

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This is an update episode, and so connects directly with a previous episode of Podcasting 2.0 in Practice.

If you are new to the subject of Podcasting 2.0, it would be a great idea for you to complete the Podcasting 2.0 in Practice course. This is a podcast series that looks at just one 2.0 feature – also known as a tag – at a time and teaches you what it is, why it’s good, and how to make it work. The course focuses specifically on how each feature can help podcasters with discovery, interactivity or monetisation – or a combination of the three.

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Exciting news, Pocket Casts has joined TrueFans in supporting this feature. I’ll walk you through how you can find these recommendations on the show screen and what they mean for your podcasting experience.

This tool is a fantastic way for podcasters to share their favourite shows, helping enhance discovery and interactivity for listeners.

This is an update episode, and so connects directly with a previous episode of Podcasting 2.0 in Practice.

If you are new to the subject of Podcasting 2.0, it would be a great idea for you to complete the Podcasting 2.0 in Practice course. This is a podcast series that looks at just one 2.0 feature – also known as a tag – at a time and teaches you what it is, why it’s good, and how to make it work. The course focuses specifically on how each feature can help podcasters with discovery, interactivity or monetisation – or a combination of the three.

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This is an update episode, and so connects directly with a previous episode of Podcasting 2.0 in Practice.

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Now that the withdraw to Stripe function is live in TrueFans, I walk you through how to easily convert the money your listeners have sent you via super comments and streaming into money in your bank account.

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I explain all: from what you'll see from Apple's auto-generated chapters or ones made by the podcaster using the Podcasting 2.0 standard, to the pros and cons of auto-generated chapters vs self-made chapters, and how to turn off the feature all together.

Homework elements show you how to locate chapters in Apple Podcasts, and how to make your own chapters through your hosting company.

PS, this episode uses chapters, with images!

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